From ???@??? Thu Sep 22 14:26:49 1994 Received: from mfmail.mfltd.co.uk by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11216 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 22 Sep 1994 10:41:49 -0500 Received: from ibm3172e.mfltd.co.uk by mfmail.mfltd.co.uk with SMTP (5.65/25-eef) id AA12325; Thu, 22 Sep 94 16:43:34 GMT Message-Id: <9409221643.AA12325@mfmail.mfltd.co.uk> Received: from NWB.RSCS by NWB.MFLTD.CO.UK (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0782; Thu, 22 Sep 94 16:41:52 BST Date: Thu, 22 Sep 94 16:41:52 BST From: DGJ@mfltd.co.uk To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: TP75x FAQ points ======================================================================= From: D. Gwyn Jones Fileshare 2 development, Products Group. DGJ at NWB, GBHFFWHF at IBMMAIL, e-mail: dgj@mfltd.co.uk Subject: TP75x FAQ points Hi, I've just been added to the tp750 mailing list. I'm not sure if I should be sending this information to that list rather than you, but I have some useful information plus some questions to add to the FAQ. I've had a Thinkpad 755c for a couple of months now with a 540Mb HD, 20Mb RAM and I use an external mouse, keyboard and SVGA monitor without a dock station. I primarily use OS/2 2.11, but also have PC-DOS 6.x and Windows 3.1x installed. I have two "Portable Add-ons" PCMCIA cards:- a Data/Fax Modem card and a Token ring card. I successfully use the Token ring card on OS/2 with LAN Requester, Comms Manager, NetWare Requester and FTP PCTCP all co-existing. Here are some points I'd like to raise in reference to the FAQ: 3.19 PCMCIA cards. In our company, we have got lots of different PCMCIA LAN cards working, but the experience has not been nice. They all seem to present their own individual installation problems. I can use my modem and LAN cards OK seperately, but if they are both plugged in, the Token ring card doesn't work. EasyPlaying seems to think its not active. I'm stuck! I've given up trying to get my DOS CONFIG.SYS set up right for using the Token ring card from DOS. The only way I can get it to work is to remove all memory drivers and other obviously unneccesary drivers. 5.x OS/2 Display drivers. I'm using the standard SVGA driver that comes with OS/2 2.11 which works fine except that there is slight picture interference whenever the hard disk is being accessed. I suspect the OS/2 driver because the phonomenon doesn't occur on native DOS or Windows. 5.11 Cursor tracking speed. I've also noticed that setting mouse tracking speed and keyboard repeat rate to maximum doesn't go far enough. However, starting a WIN-OS/2 session and changing the keyboard rate for WIN-OS/2 has a system wide affect. This isn't the case for mouse tracking though. Plus, if WIN-OS/2 is started within PM rather than in a full screen, the OS/2 pointer gets used (along with its tracking speed). I've noticed that starting and exiting EasyPlaying seems to reset the desktop settings so that the OS/2 keyboard rate again takes affect. 7.3 Sound emulation. Why am I getting the error "SYS0047 The system cannot write the AUDIO1 device"? This is mostly in an OS/2 DOS session. 4.7 DOOM sound. How do I get Adlib sounds from DOOM under OS/2? I can't find any Adlib option in DOOM's setup program. I'd appreciate any help you can offer and am happy to give any PCMCIA help required. Please let me know if I should to send this to the tp750 mailing list. Thanks. Regards, Gwyn. Micro Focus Ltd Tel. (44) (0)1635 565294 26 West Street Fax. (44) (0)1635 565567 Extension 5294 Newbury RG13 1JT U.K. "PROFS MAX. Seen it, done it, doing it next century. Using mail to the MAX." From ???@??? Thu Sep 22 15:09:58 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18867 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 22 Sep 1994 14:35:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25895; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 15:36:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 15:36:06 -0400 Message-Id: <199409221936.PAA25895@CS.UTK.EDU> From: tp750-request@cs.utk.edu To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: subscription request ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu has been added to the tp750 mailing list. ---- Welcome to the ThinkPad 750 mailing list! This list is for general discussion among ThinkPad 75X owners and users, including the various TP750, TP755, and TP360 models. These models are internally very different from the 350, 500, and 720 series machines, and much of the stuff discussed here won't apply to the latter group of machines. (If you have a ThinkPad 500, you might want to subscribe to the ibm-tp500 list instead. To do this, send mail to Majordomo@virginia.edu with the line "subscribe ibm-tp500 your-email-address" in the body.) >>> IMPORTANT <<< To send something to the list, mail it to TP750@CS.UTK.EDU To subscribe to the list, unsubscribe from the list, or to change your address, send mail to TP750-REQUEST@CS.UTK.EDU. (If you sent your subscribe message to the whole list, that's okay, but please use the -REQUEST address next time!) The FAQ for this group is available for anonymous ftp from assistant.beckman.uiuc.edu, directory /wasserman/thinkpad, file "tp75x.FAQ" Thanks to Sean Chou for maintaining it. Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), and what operating system(s) you are using. (send this to the LIST address -- don't just reply to this message!) From ???@??? Sun Sep 25 00:21:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03117 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 23 Sep 1994 06:19:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01368; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 06:11:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 06:11:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01338; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 06:11:12 -0400 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (8.6.5:29/EUnetD-2.4.4.a) via EUnet id JAA24812; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 09:02:16 +0200 Message-Id: <9409230701.AA01198@funghi.Materna.DE> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Port Replicator Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 09:00:59 +0200 From: Thomas Wysocki Hi all, I've got a TP360C and a port replicator 1 (with the PCMCIA-slots). I know that there is a program to check if the TP is plugged in a docking station. Does anybody know if this is also possible with the port replicator? Thanks in advance, Thomas __________________________________________________________________________ Thomas Wysocki ** Dr. Materna GmbH ** Vosskuhle 37 ** 44141 Dortmund mail tw@materna.de ** vox +49 231/5599-152 ** fax +49 231/5599-100 -------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Sun Sep 25 00:21:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23294 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 23 Sep 1994 09:08:37 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12410; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 08:54:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 08:54:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tin.monsanto.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12400; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 08:54:56 -0400 Received: from WOODS.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by tin.monsanto.com (5.65/Monsanto1.5) id AA11077; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 07:53:29 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 07:53:26 -0500 Message-Id: <9409231253.AA11077@tin.monsanto.com> From: snmauf@elm.monsanto.com (Simon Maufe, Monsanto AG MIS, V2K, 4-3207) To: "tp750@cs.utk.edu"@TIN.monsanto.com Subject: does anybody have more info on upcoming ThinkPads? does anybody have a list of the anticipated specs for the new Thinkpads, especially the dual scan color models. memory, disk space, price and availability are of especial interest to me. Any predictions on whether the present 755 will be available at a reduced price after the new models are released? What has happened in the past with IBM model switchovers? I'm constrainted to IBM or COMPAQ and have $3500 to spend, so am keen to grab one of the new models when they come out. I need to spend around $700 over budget right now to get what I need. Thanks ! Simon ///************************************************************************** // /// Simon Maufe ||| MAUFE@TWEETY.DIGSYS.COM // /// Daugerty Systems ||| 314-432-8200 office // /// St Louis ||| 314-257-8018 home // /// ||| 314-694-3207 client office // /// All opinions and thoughts are mine and not those of my employer or client / \\\************************************************************************** \\ From ???@??? Sun Sep 25 00:21:37 1994 Received: from mfmail.mfltd.co.uk by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12679 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 23 Sep 1994 10:03:44 -0500 Received: from ibm3172e.mfltd.co.uk by mfmail.mfltd.co.uk with SMTP (5.65/25-eef) id AA03411; Fri, 23 Sep 94 16:05:16 GMT Message-Id: <9409231605.AA03411@mfmail.mfltd.co.uk> Received: from NWB.RSCS by NWB.MFLTD.CO.UK (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5110; Fri, 23 Sep 94 16:03:37 BST Date: Fri, 23 Sep 94 16:03:36 BST From: DGJ@mfltd.co.uk To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: TP75x FAQ points ======================================================================= From: D. Gwyn Jones Fileshare 2 development, Products Group. DGJ at NWB, GBHFFWHF at IBMMAIL, e-mail: dgj@mfltd.co.uk Subject: Re: TP75x FAQ points Thanks for the reply. To be honest, I haven't had a lot of luck with EasyPlaying. All I've found it useful for is saying if cards are active and associating application with cards. It seems to indicate both cards are fine seperately (with drivers loaded in my CONFIG.SYS), but when both are inserted together, it says the Token ring card is no longer active (and I can't use it), although the modem card seems fine. I may be using EasyPlaying wrong, but something's stopping the card working regardless. As for DOS, I have to do work on DOS from time to time which requires LAN access, and I've had trouble getting a working config.sys while including the drivers supplied with the card (plus the PCMCIA drivers). Is there an easy(ish) method of narrowing down which areas of memory need excluding? Regards, Gwyn. Micro Focus Ltd Tel. (44) (0)1635 565294 26 West Street Fax. (44) (0)1635 565567 Extension 5294 Newbury RG13 1JT U.K. "PROFS MAX. Seen it, done it, doing it next century. Using mail to the MAX." *** Forwarding note from IBMSMTP --NWB 09/22/94 20:36 *** ========================================================================= Received: from mfmail.mfltd.co.uk by NWB.MFLTD.CO.UK (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 22 Sep 94 20:36:13 BST Received: from idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu by mfmail.mfltd.co.uk with SMTP (5.65/25-eef) id AA14172; Thu, 22 Sep 94 20:37:47 GMT Return-Path: Message-Id: <9409222037.AA14172@mfmail.mfltd.co.uk> Received: from colt-43.slip.uiuc.edu by idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17512; Thu, 22 Sep 94 14:33:47 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Sep 94 14:33:47 -0500 X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: DGJ@mfltd.co.uk From: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: TP75x FAQ points X-Mailer: >Hi, I've just been added to the tp750 mailing list. I'm not sure if I should >be sending this information to that list rather than you, but I have some >useful information plus some questions to add to the FAQ. I forwarded it to the mailing list but I'll try to answer what I can. > I can use my modem and LAN cards OK seperately, but if they are both > plugged in, the Token ring card doesn't work. EasyPlaying seems to > think its not active. I'm stuck! Have you tried to use both the LAN card's card services and the modem's card services (separately from EasyPlaying). Also, are you using EasyPlaying with both the modem and LAN card successfully when they're not together? You may want to look at the newer versions of OS/2 when they are released. WARP II had revised EasyPlay drivers (actually, I think they changed the name). > I've given up trying to get my DOS CONFIG.SYS set up right for using the > Token ring card from DOS. The only way I can get it to work is to remove > all memory drivers and other obviously unneccesary drivers. Why use DOS at all if you have OS/2? :) You have to exclude specific regions of memory for the Token ring card to work. I don't know what regions that may be however, but have you looked at the documentation...actually, what PCMCIA drivers are you using under DOS? >5.x OS/2 Display drivers. > I'm using the standard SVGA driver that comes with OS/2 2.11 which > works fine except that there is slight picture interference whenever > the hard disk is being accessed. I suspect the OS/2 driver because > the phonomenon doesn't occur on native DOS or Windows. I've never heard of that, but I'm new to TP755's. I had a 750C which I sold off about a month ago. >5.11 Cursor tracking speed. > I've also noticed that setting mouse tracking speed and keyboard repeat > rate to maximum doesn't go far enough. However, starting a WIN-OS/2 Yes, this is something we've all complained about. There seems to be no way around that unless someone patches the mouse driver. >7.3 Sound emulation. > Why am I getting the error "SYS0047 The system cannot write the AUDIO1 > device"? This is mostly in an OS/2 DOS session. It could be the application is trying to access hardware directly. What application gives this to you and what device are you emulating? >4.7 DOOM sound. > How do I get Adlib sounds from DOOM under OS/2? I can't find any Adlib > option in DOOM's setup program. It's probably not worth it since the sounds are pretty bad. Better to press id software to hurry up and finish the native OS/2 version. > From ???@??? Sun Sep 25 00:21:40 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20790 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 23 Sep 1994 13:53:22 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18246; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 10:14:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 10:14:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18224; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 10:14:20 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0qoBOt-0004uIC; Fri, 23 Sep 94 09:14 CDT Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qoBOr-0009b1C; Fri, 23 Sep 94 09:14 CDT Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qoBOq-000BhLC; Fri, 23 Sep 94 09:14 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Dock II To: uwe@odb.rhein-main.de (Tim Vetter) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 09:14:56 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: from "Tim Vetter" at Sep 20, 94 03:15:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The following the is IBM announcement for the IBM Dock II. I will post a followup with my comments on the unit. NUMBER 194-215 DATE 940621 TITLE IBM THINKPAD DOCK II ABSTRACT The ThinkPad (R) Dock II is a desktop expansion unit for the ThinkPad 750, 755 and 360 family. With this unit, you have the advantages of a desktop personal computer without sacrificing portability. The ThinkPad Dock II eliminates the need for a separate desktop personal computer, reducing overall costs and simplifying the management of multiple systems. The blending of the portable ThinkPad with the desktop unit gives you the best of both worlds. You can be free from the constraints of the desktop when you need to be, taking the tools (the ThinkPad with all the data and applications) directly to the work. Then, when you need the power of the desktop, simply slip the ThinkPad into the ThinkPad Dock II. The ThinkPad Dock II offers: o Two full-length, 16-bit Industry Standard Architecture (ISA) slots and two PCMCIA slots for adapters, such as token-ring and Ethernet local area network (LAN) adapters o Two 5.25-inch bays for SCSI-2 or IDE storage devices, such as hard disk drives and CD-ROMs o Cable management provided by a full complement of ports o Multimedia capability provided through: - CD-ROM capability (optional) - Internal stereo speakers - Speaker-in and audio-out jacks - Headphone jack ThinkPad Dock II also provides fail-safe docking. This is a series of visual and audio warnings designed to prevent loss of data when docking or undocking the notebook. The ThinkPad Dock II is also Plug and Play (PnP) aware, allowing the docking and undocking of a powered-on or suspended PnP aware ThinkPad. The ThinkPad Dock II is part of a wide range of docking solutions for the ThinkPad 750, 755 and 360 family of portables. The solutions include: o Port Replicator Model I -- cable management with connectivity (PCMCIA) o Port Replicator Model II -- cable management o Dock I -- portable docking that is multimedia ready In addition to ThinkPad Dock II, an optional display shelf and an optional tape backup unit (for the 1-inch high bay) are now available. The ThinkPad Dock II Display Shelf sits on top of the Dock II to accommodate an external CRT. The ThinkPad 555MB (million bytes) Tape Backup Unit allows you to back up the high-capacity hard disks now available with the ThinkPads. A special offering in also available that includes the Display Shelf and the ThinkPad Dock II under a single part number (84G5257). Single Unit Price: $719 (ThinkPad Dock II) Planned Availability Date: July 29, 1994 (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation IN BRIEF . . . The ThinkPad Dock II: o Expands the flexibilities and capabilities of the ThinkPad 750, 755 and 360 family of portables o Provides cable management, connectivity and full desktop capability through slots, bays and port replication o Connects seamlessly to additional resources through fail-safe docking/undocking and Plug and Play ready features o Exploits existing technology (ISA slots and IDE bays) while incorporating new technology with PCMCIA and SCSI-2 features o Provides for a total customer solution by offering an addition to the existing ThinkPad 750 docking solutions o Supports existing options: - ThinkPad Space Saver keyboard (black) - ThinkPad Numeric Keypad (an option for the Space Saver keyboard) - ThinkPad Hard Disks (for the 1-inch high bay) -- require the Hard Disk Drive (HDD) Installation Kit -- 170MB -- 250MB -- 340MB -- 540MB -- 810MB - ThinkPad CD-ROM Installation Kit - ThinkPad HDD Installation Kit - ThinkPad Internal SCSI Device Installation Kit SUPPORTED SYSTEMS: o ThinkPad 750 family (9545) o ThinkPad 755 family (9545) o ThinkPad 360 family (2620) DESKTOP-EQUIVALENT FEATURES: o Two full-size ISA 16-bit slots o Two 5.25-inch bays, one 1-inch high and one half high o Two PCMCIA slots, accommodating two Type I/II cards, or one Type I/II and one Type III card, or one PCMCIA card with a maximum height of 16 mm o Full port replication: Serial, EPP, SVGA, keyboard-keypad, pointer o Floppy disk drive (FDD) connector o Internal and external SCSI-2 connector o Internal, 2.5-inch IDE HDD connector AUDIO FEATURES: o Speaker-in jacks o Audio-out jacks o Headphone jack o Internal stereo speakers o Manual volume control SECURITY FEATURES: o Key lock that secures the ThinkPad, locks top cover of Dock II and disables the next power-on sequence o PCMCIA card lock o Security slot located on the back of the Dock II, designed to be compatible with the Kensington MicroSaver** Security System, a cable lock available from resellers worldwide ** Product or company name is a trademark or registered trademark of its respective holder. EASE-OF-USE FEATURES: o Docking tray with positive dock indicator o LCD system status indicators o Top cover removed by thumbscrews, no tools required o Emergency undock capability in the event of a power failure o Fail-safe docking and undocking to prevent inadvertent loss of data o Plug and Play ready, allowing the docking and undocking of a powered-on or suspended PnP aware notebook The ThinkPad Dock II provides customers with desktop capability without sacrificing portability through the seamless interaction of Dock II and the notebooks. ThinkPad 750, 755 and 360 users now have a complete suite of docking alternatives ranging from simple cable management (Port Replicator Model II) to cable management with connectivity (Port Replicator Model I with PCMCIA) to portable docking (Dock I) to full desktop capability (ThinkPad Dock II). PLUG AND PLAY: Plug and Play is a set of specifications for hardware manufacturers designed to make configuring computer systems easier for the users. The ThinkPad Dock II is Plug and Play enabled. PnP aware hardware, such as PC adapter cards, is self configuring, so users do not have to set switches (assuming a PnP operating system is installed on the computer). PnP also has a key role in docking. With PnP features, users can dock or undock a powered-on or suspended PnP aware notebook. The notebook is "smart" enough to know that the environment has changed (for example, no longer connected to a network) and reconfigures itself through the PnP operating system. To take full advantage of the PnP ease-of-use features, users must have all the components of the PnP architecture, which includes: o PnP aware hardware (such as, docking station, notebook computers, PC adapter cards, and PC storage devices) o PnP operating system (with hardware device drivers) The ThinkPad Dock II is PnP aware. Users can upgrade ThinkPads 755 and 360 to PnP aware by installing the BIOS upgrade on the System Program Service diskette, shipped with the ThinkPad Dock II. Non-PnP aware ThinkPads (for example, the ThinkPad 750) can dock to the ThinkPad Dock II and have access to all its resources (for example, slots and bays), but ThinkPad 750 has to be powered off before any docking or undocking can take place. Currently, no PnP operating systems are available, so the full benefits of PnP (for example, the automatic reconfiguring and/or configuring of PC adapter cards) cannot be realized. However, the ThinkPad Dock II is ready to exploit the full advantages of PnP as soon as PnP operating systems are available. In the meantime, to bring users as much function as possible, including the capability of docking and undocking a powered-on or suspended PnP aware ThinkPad, fail-safe docking and undocking, PnP SCSI, and PassThru Mode are incorporated into the ThinkPad Dock II. Fail-safe docking and undocking is a system of messages (audio and visual) and hardware/software interlocks that attempt to prevent loss of data when users dock or undock a ThinkPad. PnP SCSI allows users to access a SCSI storage device upon docking a powered-on (hot docking) or suspended (warming docking) PnP aware notebook, without having to shut down applications or reboot the system. PassThru Mode allows users access to devices attached to the ports (for example, keyboard, printer, mouse and CRT) upon docking a powered-on or suspended PnP aware notebook without rebooting the system. PRODUCT INFORMATION ENABLE CUSTOMER'S COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE The ThinkPad Dock II frees users from the constraints of the desktop without limiting desktop capability. Users can now bring the tools (the ThinkPad with all the data and applications) directly to the work, gaining improvements in productivity. When the power of the desktop is needed, users can simply slip the ThinkPad into ThinkPad Dock II. ENABLING NEW APPLICATIONS The ThinkPad Dock II has slots and bays that are compatible with a large number of adapters, PCMCIA cards and storage devices. Items such as CD-ROM and multimedia PC adapters may be inserted into Dock II. This in conjunction with the internal stereo speakers and the integrated audio capabilities of the ThinkPad 750/755 facilitates multimedia applications or any application requiring large storage capacity, PC adapters or PCMCIA cards. ACCESS TO ENTERPRISE DATA The slots in ThinkPad Dock II accept a large number of ISA PC boards and PCMCIA PC cards. Network cards such as token-ring and Ethernet cards may be placed in the slots, allowing connectivity to other systems. INCREASED CAPACITY/PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT With slots that accept a large number of ISA PC boards and PCMCIA PC cards, and bays for industry standard storage devices, the ThinkPad Dock II extends the performance and capacity of the ThinkPad. INTEROPERABILITY IMPROVEMENTS The ThinkPad Dock II is designed to accommodate the ThinkPad 750, 755 and 360 family of portable A4-sized (8.3 x 11.7 inches) notebook computers. A large account, for example, can now buy a variety of ThinkPads and use the same docking solutions: Dock II, Dock I, Port Replicator Model I or Port Replicator Model II. IMPROVED WORKER PRODUCTIVITY Because of its slots and bays, the ThinkPad Dock II allows for expansion capabilities. Dock II also provides cable management by providing a full complement of ports in the back of the unit. These features in conjunction with the Dock II fail-safe and Plug and Play capabilities provides the end user with a seamless and portable desktop solution -- the best of both worlds. DATA INTEGRITY IMPROVEMENTS The ThinkPad Dock II incorporates fail-safe docking and undocking. This is a system of messages (audio and visual) and hardware/software interlocks that attempts to prevent the loss of data when users dock or undock a ThinkPad. IMPROVED SYSTEMS AVAILABILITY The ThinkPad Dock II offers fail-safe docking and undocking and is Plug and Play aware. Since PnP aware operating systems are not available, the ThinkPad Dock II comes with utilities that allow users to dock and undock a powered-on or suspended PnP aware Thinkpad. The capability to access peripherals attached to the ports, such as keyboards, printers and displays, and to access attached SCSI-2 devices (either internal or external) is called PassThru Mode. MANAGING MULTIPLE SYSTEMS The incorporation of fail-safe docking and undocking, and Plug and Play capabilities makes it much easier and more desirable for users to have one system, instead of a portable and a desktop. This reduces the cost and complexity of managing multiple systems. SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS The ThinkPad Dock II incorporates multiple security features. When the supported ThinkPad is locked into the Dock II, access to the ThinkPad and its components can be prevented. The resources of the Dock II, the ISA adapters, PCMCIA cards and storage devices can also be locked in the system to prevent unauthorized access. To further protect the Dock II from theft, a cable lock provision (security slot) is incorporated, so users can physically secure Dock II using the Kensington MicroSaver** Security System, a cable lock available >from resellers worldwide. ** Product or company name is a trademark or registered trademark of its respective holder. PORTABILITY IMPROVEMENTS ThinkPad Dock II is designed to provide users with desktop capability without restricting its portability. Dock II does this by providing cable management, enterprise connectivity, and expansion through its slots and bays. The fail-safe and Plug and Play features allow for the seamless integration of the ThinkPad into a desktop system. ADVANCED ARCHITECTURES Along with two full-length, 16-bit ISA slots, the ThinkPad Dock II incorporates two evolving technologies, PCMCIA and SCSI-2. PCMCIA cards are not much bigger than a credit card and many options, such as modems, hard disks and network interface cards, are available in this form. The internal and external SCSI-2 connector allows users to attach devices requiring the SCSI protocol. These two technologies can provide users with productivity improvements well into the future. UPGRADEABILITY IMPROVEMENTS The ThinkPad Dock II has two full-length, 16-bit ISA slots, two PCMCIA PC card slots, and two industry standard storage bays. The slots and bays allow users to upgrade the system with ISA adapters, PCMCIA PC cards, and storage devices. The 1-inch high bay in Dock II can also accommodate the hard disk from the ThinkPad or the ThinkPad 555MB Tape Backup Unit. PCMCIA SUBSYSTEM Features of the PCMCIA subsystem include: o Conformance to PCMCIA 2.1 and JEIDA 4.1 Interface o Support of two 68-pin sockets, accommodating two Type I/II cards, or one Type I/II card and one Type III card, or one PCMCIA card with a maximum height of 16 mm o Memory and I/O window mapping to avoid system configuration conflict o Power management functions: - Insertion/removal capability - Individual socket power control o Interrupt steering to eliminate interrupt level conflict o Maximum low power mode capability SCSI SUBSYSTEM The ThinkPad Dock II has a SCSI subsystem standard on the planar, featuring: o Complete ASPI, SCSI-2 compatibility o Plug and Play ISA Specification conformance o Automatic configuration support through Configuration Manager o Transfer rate of 10MB/sec (fast sync) PLUG AND PLAY Plug and Play is a set of specifications for hardware manufacturers designed to make configuring computer systems easier for users. The ThinkPad Dock II is Plug and Play enabled. PnP aware hardware, such as PC adapter cards, are self configuring, so users do not have to set switches (assuming a PnP operating system is installed on the ThinkPad). PRODUCT POSITIONING The ThinkPad Dock II is positioned as a desktop expansion unit for the ThinkPad 750, 755 and 360 family of portables. The ThinkPad Dock II complements the existing docking solutions for the ThinkPad 750 family. With this announcement, IBM now offers four docking solutions for the ThinkPad 750, 755 and 360 families: o ThinkPad Dock II -- full desktop expansion capabilities o ThinkPad Dock I -- portable docking unit that is multimedia-ready o IBM Port Replicator Model I -- hardware slice providing cable management and connectivity through a Type III PCMCIA slot o IBM Port Replicator Model II -- hardware slice providing cable management These docking solutions are designed to provide the end user with the most flexible computing environment possible. The solutions are intended to provide desktop capability without sacrificing portability. These solutions provide customers with a single systems image that seamlessly combines portability and desktop functionality. PUBLICATIONS The following publication and diskettes are shipped with the ThinkPad Dock II: ORDER PART DESCRIPTION NUMBER NUMBER ThinkPad Dock II User's Guide S84G-9682 84G9682 ThinkPad Dock II Diskette Package S84G-9697 84G9697 The IBM THINKPAD DOCK II USER'S GUIDE is available to IBM Authorized Industry From ???@??? Sun Sep 25 00:21:40 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20790 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 23 Sep 1994 13:53:22 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18246; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 10:14:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 10:14:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18224; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 10:14:20 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0qoBOt-0004uIC; Fri, 23 Sep 94 09:14 CDT Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qoBOr-0009b1C; Fri, 23 Sep 94 09:14 CDT Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qoBOq-000BhLC; Fri, 23 Sep 94 09:14 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Dock II To: uwe@odb.rhein-main.de (Tim Vetter) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 09:14:56 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: from "Tim Vetter" at Sep 20, 94 03:15:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Remarketers -- Personal Computer and IBM Authorized Personal Computer Dealers. To order, call the IBM Dealer Software/Publication Hotline at 800-327-5711. Customers can call the IBM Software Manufacturing Solution Hotline at 800-879-2755. SERVICE PUBLICATIONS: The HARDWARE MAINTENANCE MANUAL FOR THE IBM THINKPAD DOCK II (S83G-8284, 83G8284) contains service and reference information. The Service section includes procedures for isolating problems to a FRU, related service procedures, and an illustrated parts catalog. The Reference section includes safety information, product description, and general information about system functions. Publications may be ordered from an IBM Authorized Dealer, an IBM representative, or through the Technical Directory. A complete listing of ThinkPad and IBM personal computer hardware publications is available by calling the Technical Directory at 800-IBM-PCTB (426-7282). TECHNICAL INFORMATION SPECIFIED OPERATING ENVIRONMENT PHYSICAL SPECIFICATIONS: THINKPAD DOCK II: o Size - Width: 380 mm (15.0 inches) - Depth: 400 mm (15.7 inches) - Front Height: 67 mm (2.6 inches) - Rear Height: 124 mm (4.8 inches) o Weight - Without CRT shelf and options: 7.7 kg (17 pounds) o Cables - Power Cable: 2.8 meter (9 feet) o Operating Environment - Temperature: 5 (degs)C to 35 (degs)C (41 (degs)F to 95 (degs)F) - Relative Humidity: 8% to 95% (non-condensing) - Maximum Wet Bulb: 29.4 (degs)C (85 (degs)F) o Non-operating Environment - Temperature: 5 (degs)C to 43 (degs)C (41 (degs)F to 109 (degs)0) - Relative Humidity: 8% to 95% (non-condensing) - Maximum Wet Bulb: 29.4 (degs)C (85 (degs)F) o Storage Environment - Temperature: -20 (degs)C to 60 (degs)C (-4 (degs)F to 140 (degs)F) - Relative Humidity: 5% to 95% (non-condensing) - Maximum Wet Bulb: 29.4 (degs)C (85 (degs)F) o Maximum Altitude: 2,435 meters (8,000 feet) non-pressurized o Heat Output - Base Configuration: 181 BTUs/hr (1) - Maximum Configuration: 498 BTUs/hr o Electromagnetic - Compatibility: FCC Class B o Electrostatic Discharge: C-S 2-0001-005 Class 2 o Universal Power Supply: 100-240 VAC, 50/60Hz o Acoustic Noise Level: Class 3D (office environment) o Sound Pressure Level - Operating: 40 dB o Sound Power - Operating: 5.1 bel - Idling: 4.8 bel o Agency Approvals: UL, CSA, NEMKO, SEMKO, SETI, OVE, SASO, MOM (1) British thermal units per hour HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS: The ThinkPad Dock II is designed to work with the ThinkPad 750, 755 and 360 family of computers. To take advantage of some of the Plug and Play features (for example, the docking and undocking of a powered-on or suspended Plug and Play aware notebook), the supporting ThinkPads must be upgraded with Plug and Play BIOS and utility programs. (The diskettes are part of the diskette package shipped with the ThinkPad Dock II.) An external keyboard and monitor may also be used with the system. The keyboard plugs into the back of the unit. The monitor may be placed on top of the unit if the optional CRT shelf is installed. If the shelf is not installed, the monitor must be placed to one side of the unit. SOFTWARE REQUIREMENTS: The ThinkPad Dock II requires that a ThinkPad 750, 755, or 360 be docked with the requisite operating systems installed. The ThinkPad 555MB Tape Backup Unit requires: o IBM PC-DOS: Systos Plus File Backup Manager (DOS) -- on the Central Point Backup Utility shipped with IBM PC-DOS 6.3, you must select "TEAC MT-01 (250MB)" for the supported SCSI tape drive. o IBM OS/2: Systos Plus File Backup Manager (OS/2) (R) -- the 555MB Tape Backup Unit device driver will be on the IBM PC Company bulletin board system, at 919-517-0001, and must be downloaded. COMPATIBILITY: Refer to the 3546 Sales Manual pages, or contact your IBM representative, for a complete list of supported features and options and compatible IBM and vendor software. The Sales Manual is updated periodically. The ThinkPad Dock II system is designed to be compatible with the existing ThinkPad 750 family. The same peripherals that attach to the ThinkPads (for example, monitors and keyboards) may be attached to the Dock II. The Dock II also complements the existing family of ThinkPad 750 docking solutions: o ThinkPad Dock I -- portable docking unit o IBM Port Replicator Model I -- hardware slice with PCMCIA o IBM Port Replicator Model II -- hardware slice without PCMCIA The two full-size ISA slots and two 5.25-inch bays are designed to be compatible with most of the PC adapters and storage devices that go in the ValuePoint (TM) systems. The PCMCIA slots conform to the PCMCIA PC Card Standard 2.01. The slot is designed to accommodate two Type I/II cards, or one Type I/II and one Type III card, or one PCMCIA card with a maximum height of 16 mm. The security slot in the back of Dock II is designed to be compatible with the Kensington MicroSaver Security System, which may be purchased at resellers worldwide. (TM) Trademark of International Business Machines Corporation LIMITATIONS: o The ThinkPad Dock II is designed to accommodate the ThinkPads 750, 755 and 360 family of portables. Dock II will not accommodate any other IBM products unless specifically stated. o The ThinkPad Dock II is Plug and Play aware. However, for the end user to take full advantage of Plug and Play capabilities (automatic configuration and re-configuration of PnP PC adapter cards), the PC cards must be PnP aware and a PnP operating system must be installed on the ThinkPad. o The ThinkPad 750 family is not Plug and Play aware and cannot take full advantage of the ease-of-use features that PnP offers. To dock or undock a ThinkPad 750, it must be powered off. o The ThinkPad Dock II has two ISA slots, two PCMCIA slots, and two storage bays. The population of these slots and bays depends on the total amount of system resources available (such as interrupt requests) and the physical compatibility of the devices to be installed. o The ThinkPad Dock II does not support the Video Feature Bus (VFB); therefore, PC adapters requiring the VFB are not supported. o When using an audio-related AT (R) card (such as Action Media II), it is recommended that the audio device on the docked notebook be disabled by using PS2.EXE or the ThinkPad features Icon in OS/2 and Windows (2) 3.1. o Maximum data transfer rate of the internal CD-ROM is approximately 300 Kbps. o The Analog to Digital Video Converter card (66G3537, #7676) is not supported in the ThinkPad Dock II. o The IBM 8516 "touch screen" color display requires that the TrackPoint II (TM) on the ThinkPad be disabled before attaching it to the Dock II. Refer to the User's Guide shipped with the ThinkPad. o The ThinkPad Space Saver Keyboard (with TrackPoint II) requires that TrackPoint II on the ThinkPad be disabled. The keyboard is shipped with a device driver that disables the ThinkPad TrackPoint II automatically, once installed. Refer to the installation instructions shipped with the keyboard. When the device driver is installed, the computer automatically selects the active keyboard and the setting for the pointing device in Easy-Setup becomes invalid. o If the ThinkPad 750, 755 or 360 systems are used continuously with the ThinkPad Dock II attached, it is recommended that you use an additional external keyboard (IBM Enhanced keyboard or ValuePoint keyboard) for your typing comfort and convenience. o The HDD password (HDP) is not supported when the HDD is installed in Dock II. Remove the HDD password while it is installed in the ThinkPad and then install it in Dock II. o PCMCIA diagnostic programs usually do not recognize more than two slots. If you need to run the diagnostic program against a PCMCIA card, install the card in slot 1 or 2 of the ThinkPad. o Point enablers (device drivers that do not use Card Services) usually recognize only two slots. If you have to use a point enabler for a PCMCIA card, the enabler may have to be installed in the ThinkPad PCMCIA slots. PC card point enablers may write directly to the hardware, bypassing Socket and Card Services. Writing directly to the hardware may cause problems that cannot be anticipated. Also, point enablers may interfere with Card Services' client device drivers that do communicate with Socket and Card Services. Additional customer testing in the specific environments is recommended. o The password prompt is not displayed when the computer resumes from partial suspend mode while attached to the ThinkPad Dock II, but you still need to type the correct password to resume operation. o Two keys are shipped with Dock II. Information for ordering additional keys may be obtained by writing to the address on the key tag. When requesting additional keys, include the key number from the tag. An additional charge is required. It is highly recommended that you keep the tag number, address, and extra key in a safe place. o The ThinkPad Dock II does not support internal diskette drives. o The Windows display device driver must be set in VGA resolution (640 x 480) to use the hot and warm dock/undock capabilities. Setting the driver in SVGA resolution (800 x 600, 1024 x 768) may cause the LCD to blank out for hot and warm docking/undocking. o Full suspend/hibernation while docked is usually disabled, because the system BIOS cannot insure that the context of the ISA cards will be maintained if power is turned off to the docking station. The default is then partial suspend mode. To undock, the user must turn off the system. For those users who want to undock without turning off the system, the option to enable full suspend/hibernation while docked is provided as part of the suspend options in the ThinkPad features. However, this option may cause problems, such as disconnecting the communications link or other problems, that may cause you to reboot the system or restart an application. o When using a PCMCIA Type I/II and a Type III card simultaneously in the ThinkPad Dock II, the Type III card must be in the upper PCMCIA slot. o If the ThinkPad Dock II Display Shelf is used, the keyboard on the docked ThinkPad becomes inaccessible. Therefore, an external keyboard becomes a requirement. o The maximum allowable weight you place on the ThinkPad Dock II Display Shelf is 30 kg (66 pounds). o The keyboard on the ThinkPad is disabled when an external keyboard is attached through the keyboard/numeric keypad connector on the ThinkPad Dock II. o When the ThinkPad 750 is docked to the Dock II, only the power switch on the ThinkPad 750 is functional; the power switch on the Dock II is disabled. When the ThinkPad 755 or 360 is docked, either the power switch on the ThinkPads or the Dock II may be used. o The 540MB SCSI HDD (70G8491) is supported only in the 1/2-inch high bay, not in the 1-inch high bay. Also, if this internal drive is used in conjunction with an external SCSI drive, the terminator on the external drive must be active ( 32G3919, #4398), not passive. (2) Trademark of Microsoft Corporation PROBLEM DETERMINATION: ThinkPad and Dock II problems can be caused by the ThinkPad or Dock II, or both. To simplify diagnosing problems, isolate the ThinkPad and diagnose it first, using the instructions shipped with the ThinkPad (User's Guide). Then, test the Dock II with the ThinkPad docked; the diagnostic program on the ThinkPad diagnoses the Dock II and the ThinkPad. You can diagnose and solve many problems with the assistance of the self-tests and the diagnostics programs of the computer. If you cannot solve the problems yourself, be prepared to give the error messages to the service representative when you place a call for service. If the diagnostics programs on the ThinkPad cannot be loaded, refer to the troubleshooting charts and other information supplied with the ThinkPad. Additional troubleshooting information is available in the DOCK II USER'S GUIDE. PACKAGING: The ThinkPad Dock II (3546-001) is shipped with: o User's Guide o Diskette package o Power cord o Security lock keys o IDE cable o CD-ROM extension cable SECURITY, AUDITABILITY, AND CONTROL Standard security features include: o Key lock that secures the ThinkPad in Dock II, locks the top cover of Dock II restricting access to installed options and disables the next power-on sequence o PCMCIA card locking bar, which prevents the cards from being removed from the ThinkPad Dock II o Security slot in the back of the ThinkPad Dock II, designed to be compatible with the Kensington MicroSaver Security System, a cable lock available from resellers worldwide User management is responsible for evaluation, selection and implementation of security features, administrative procedures and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. WARRANTY PERIOD: The ThinkPad Dock II has a one-year warranty. WARRANTY SERVICE: CUSTOMER CARRY-IN REPAIR (CCR) OR THINKPAD EASYSERV: Warranty service for the ThinkPad Dock II will be provided via CCR or ThinkPad EasyServ. ThinkPad EasyServ is a courier repair service in which the ThinkPad system is picked up at the customer's location and delivered to an IBM designated repair location. The repair location will repair the system and return it to the customer. Charges for the courier service will be paid by IBM. If warranty service is required, the customer should call the IBM Personal Systems HelpCenter (R) at 800-772-2227. The HelpCenter will assist the user with problem isolation for both hardware and software. Should a hardware problem be identified and the customer prefers ThinkPad EasyServ over Carry-In service, the HelpCenter will arrange for a courier to pick up the system for overnight delivery (where available) to the repair location. Most repairs should be made the same day the system is received at the repair location. Customers should keep the original shipping carton for shipping to the repair location. If the original shipping carton is not available, the courier will deliver a shipping carton and return to pick up the system for delivery to the repair location. ALTERNATIVE SERVICE FOR WARRANTY: IBM On-Site Repair (IOR) for additional charges during warranty. MAINTENANCE SERVICE: Available options are IOR and ThinkPad EasyServe. IBM EasyServe Post Warranty Service is also available. IBM On-Site Repair provides IBM WorldPass Service for customers who are traveling internationally and have purchased a Post Warranty Maintenance Agreement. NOTE: Non-IBM products installed in a ThinkPad Dock II either on Warranty or Maintenance Service may be serviced by IBM. Additional service support charges will apply. CHARGES SINGLE MACHINE PART UNIT DESCRIPTION TYPE MODEL NUMBER PRICE ThinkPad Dock II 3546 001 84G3587 $719 OPTIONAL FEATURES SINGLE FEATURE PART UNIT DESCRIPTION NUMBER NUMBER PRICE ThinkPad Dock II Display Shelf 1902 84G3607 $ 65 ThinkPad 555MB Tape Backup Unit 1950 84G1282 649 SPECIAL OFFERING SINGLE PART UNIT DESCRIPTION NUMBER PRICE ThinkPad Dock II and Display Shelf 84G5257 $775 -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Sun Sep 25 00:21:55 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13135 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 23 Sep 1994 14:41:58 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09523; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 14:23:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 14:22:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nrcnet0.nrc.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09495; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 14:22:46 -0400 Received: from coursmtp.nrc.ca by nrcnet0.nrc.ca (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA20490; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 14:22:31 +0500 Received: by coursmtp.nrc.ca with Microsoft Mail id <2E831CE8@coursmtp.nrc.ca>; Fri, 23 Sep 94 14:22:32 EDT From: "Oleskiw, Myron" To: TP750 Subject: RE: Keyboard replacement Date: Fri, 23 Sep 94 14:22:00 EDT Message-Id: <2E831CE8@coursmtp.nrc.ca> Encoding: 18 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I've just had a very good experience with IBM's service on my ThinkPad 750C. I had a key next to the TrackPoint II that didn't have the same feel as the other keys and was therefore causing me a problem. I called IBM Service here in Ottawa last Friday. They had a replacement keyboard in by Monday afternoon, and when I showed up at the local service center on Tuesday morning to have the keyboard replaced, the exchange was completed within 15 minutes while I waited. The new keyboard also appears to have the letters printed on top of the keys, and the technician wasn't aware of a new style of keyboard with the lettering embedded within the keys. He said "perhaps on the TP755...". Myron Oleskiw National Research Council Canada Myron.Oleskiw@nrc.ca From ???@??? Sun Sep 25 00:22:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29314 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 23 Sep 1994 20:59:46 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03073; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:04:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:04:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from top.cis.syr.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03063; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:04:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199409240104.VAA03063@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 94 21:03:10 EDT From: yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu Subject: TP system service disk v1.13 available To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Hello, The system program service disk v1.13 is now available via FTP:ftp.pcco.ibm.com/mobiles/sytps113.exe. Enjoy! -yc From ???@??? Sun Sep 25 00:22:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05659 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:34:22 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04544; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:34:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:34:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04534; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:34:10 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA05680; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 18:34:18 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:34:33 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <77674.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: TP75x FAQ points >> 7.3 Sound emulation. >> Why am I getting the error "SYS0047 The system cannot write the >> AUDIO device"? This is mostly in an OS/2 DOS session. Most often, it means that another program is using the sound hardware. Since two programs can't use the same hardware at once, it generates an error. The other less likely possibility is that some program didn't clean up after itself and OS/2 thinks the sound hardware is still being used, even if it isn't. >> 4.7 DOOM sound. >> How do I get Adlib sounds from DOOM under OS/2? I can't find any >> Adlib option in DOOM's setup program. The Adlib card is FM synthesis only, so you only get the Adlib option under the music setup. Doom's sound effects try to tweak with the Soundblaster hardware directly, so you're unlikely to get them to work on a TP750 (which uses a SB emulator). I've gotten the music working from an OS/2 DOS box, but not under straight DOS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu jokim@x8.csrd.uiuc.edu This message sent by NUPop ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cartoon by Mike Luckovich: Briefer: "Intelligence reports North Korea's new leader is erratic, overweight and has a big hairdo. He wasn't in the military which may lessen his sway with the armed forces. He's obsessed with women ..." Clinton: "Lemme guess. He also plays the saxophone ..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From ???@??? Sun Sep 25 00:22:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06476 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:38:34 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04587; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:34:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:34:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04575; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:34:45 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA05688; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 18:34:35 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:34:50 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <77691.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp II In message Thu, 22 Sep 94 09:20:26 MDT, kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) writes: >> I have 2.11 and when I received the Warp II beta I was very!! >> displeased. I am using HPFS and could not load Windows 3.1. I >> finally gave up and reloaded 2.11. > Windows funtionality is very important to me, as I possess no > native OS/2 apps. I would most likely skip HPFS in favor of FAT > (not enough RAM). I wonder if your problem is HPFS specific? Just in case you don't know, IBM announced it will release OS/2 3.0 in October. A couple announcements by OS/2 User's Groups indicate rollout will be around Oct. 12-13. I really doubt IBM would release OS/2 3.0 with less Windows support than 2.1, so rather than play with the beta, you may want to wait a few weeks for the real thing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu jokim@x8.csrd.uiuc.edu This message sent by NUPop ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cartoon by Mike Luckovich: Briefer: "Intelligence reports North Korea's new leader is erratic, overweight and has a big hairdo. He wasn't in the military which may lessen his sway with the armed forces. He's obsessed with women ..." Clinton: "Lemme guess. He also plays the saxophone ..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From ???@??? Sun Sep 25 00:22:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07586 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:43:30 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04559; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:34:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:34:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04546; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:34:26 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA05684; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 18:34:29 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:34:40 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <77681.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Keyboard replacement In message Thu, 22 Sep 94 09:03:32 MDT, kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) writes: >> 3.7. My keyboard letters and symbols are starting to come off. >> Mike Anderson, IBM rep on the Compuserve Thinkpad forum, has reported >> that this is a flaw in the manufacturing. When the new keyboards >> become available, we will be able to get them under our warranties for >> free. > Does anyone know the status of these "new" keyboards? I sent in my TP for servicing late last month. One of the things I complained about was the lettering coming off the keyboard. :) IBM replaced it, and although I've only had it for a few weeks, I immediately noticed the surface of the keys felt different. I'm not sure if my mind is making this up or if it really is different, so maybe the new keyboards are out. None of the letters have come off yet, but then again I'm not pounding the machine by playing games for hours on end. :) Perhaps someone on CompuServe can ask? >> If your warranty has expired already, then you have an old >> Thinkpad and this is an old FAQ. Get a newer one. Sean, you might want to change this part since the TP360 only comes with a 1-year warranty. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu jokim@x8.csrd.uiuc.edu This message sent by NUPop ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cartoon by Mike Luckovich: Briefer: "Intelligence reports North Korea's new leader is erratic, overweight and has a big hairdo. He wasn't in the military which may lessen his sway with the armed forces. He's obsessed with women ..." Clinton: "Lemme guess. He also plays the saxophone ..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From ???@??? Sun Sep 25 00:22:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15521 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 23 Sep 1994 22:23:35 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04576; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:34:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:34:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04564; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:34:39 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA05696; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 18:34:48 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:34:56 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <77697.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: IBM Service In message Thu, 22 Sep 94 09:03:32 MDT, kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) writes: > So, second question: these things I've heard must be the > exception rather than the rule, right? Do any of you have a repair > experience (good or bad) that you'd like to share? Thanks for your > help. Regards, I sent my TP750 in for repair in late August and was very please (almost) with the result. Turnaround time was less than 48 hours. This is a followup to the report I posted then. I've included the original report at the end for those of you who weren't around then. As you may recall, the problem I sent the computer in for was fixed, but I noticed high pitched noises coming from the computer upon bootup. Well, I had to pack and move to school so I threw the TP in its bag and forgot about it for two weeks. Once I got settled in at school, I started playing with the TP to figure out where the sound was coming from - you know, BIOS setup, self test, etc. I noticed that the sound occurred only when the floppy light was on, and in the self test the floppy test option was unavailable. I popped in a floppy and tried to read it and sure enough the drive didn't power up. I called IBM the Friday before Labor Day weekend and got this reply: You can arrange to send the computer back for repair, or try to get it fixed at a local dealer. I said I'd try a local dealer and hung up. I then found out it was Labor Day weekend and nobody was going to be open on Monday. So come Tuesday I call IBM again just to see if I get the same answer. This time the guy gives me a number and says he's sending me a new floppy drive. If it fixes the problem, great. If it doesn't, I'll have to send the computer in for repair. He gives me a number and tells me I should get the floppy early next week. Next week comes and goes. The week after that comes. Before it goes, I call IBM back on Friday. They ask for my reference number. ARRGGH! I accidently threw it away! Since I've already waited longer than I was supposed to, I ask if I can just send the computer in for repair. The guy says no way - if a replacement floppy is on the way, he's not going to authorize another repair, unless I can find that number so we can cancel the floppy. He tries to look up my number via my name, address, and TP serial number but no luck (Kinda funny that IBM can't do this). So everyone remember - DON'T LOSE THOSE REPAIR REFERENCE NUMBERS! So I think I'm screwed, am wondering what to do about this. Tuesday comes and surprise! A package from IBM. Inside is 2.88 MB floppy drive. Insert it into my TP and everything works great. No high pitched whine, and the drive works. I toss in a couple 1.44 MB floppies I converted to 2.88 MB with the old drive, and they work fine (maybe switching converted floppies between TP 2.88 MB drives isn't a problem?). Everything is fine now, and I'm just waiting for IBM to give me instructions on what to do about my old drive. All in all I'm pretty happy about this. I haven't spent a dime so far and the computer has had some serious problems fixed. (Well, of course I spent a few thousand extra dimes when I bought a computer with a really good warranty, but this way it doesn't feel like I'm spending money :) I only had to do without the computer for 3 days, and I would rate the replaced keyboard and screen as "better than new" - the screen has a better viewing angle, and the keyboard "feels" better. Original report follows: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The screen on my TP750 mono developed a chronic case of vertical lines. I could make them disappear by flipping the screen back and forth, but closing and opening the screen would make them reappear. I called IBM and they sent Federal Express out to pick up the computer Monday afternoon. They told me four days turnaround so I went fishing on Wednesday. :) Wednesday evening I get home and find a note from Federal Express saying they tried to deliver a package from IBM at 1pm. Thinking about how the events must have unfolded: Monday 5pm, FedEx picks up package, flys it to North Carolina overnight, delivers to IBM Tuesday. IBMer unpacks computer, replaces screen and keyboard (I complained about the lettering coming off too), gets FedEx to pick it up later that day. FedEx flys it back and delivers it to me on Wednesday. Wow! Repaired in just a few hours! (Incidently, assuming a straight path, this works out to my Thinkpad moving an average of 114 mph for 44 hours :) That would be the end of the story except: all my old problems are fixed, but now the computer makes high pitched whines and beeps when I first turn it on. Guess it'll be going back soon... hmm, that'll give my 750 more mileage than my car... :) Incidently, if you ever need to return your computer and you want to keep the box it came in when you bought it, ask IBM to send you a sling box to ship the computer in. They didn't tell me until it was too late (I'm moving to school and I needed to get the computer fixed NOW) so I no longer have that neat Thinkpad box with the handle. Also, I take the rubber TrackPoint 'eraser' off because my sweaty hands work better on the plastic nub. I forgot to put it back on when I sent it in, but the replacement keyboard had one so I basically got one for free. You may want to consider removing your 'eraser' if you're sending the computer in to get the keyboard replaced since IBM charges $12+ for 3 of them. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu jokim@x8.csrd.uiuc.edu This message sent by NUPop ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cartoon by Mike Luckovich: Briefer: "Intelligence reports North Korea's new leader is erratic, overweight and has a big hairdo. He wasn't in the military which may lessen his sway with the armed forces. He's obsessed with women ..." Clinton: "Lemme guess. He also plays the saxophone ..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From ???@??? Sun Sep 25 00:22:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24627 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 24 Sep 1994 10:13:05 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16908; Sat, 24 Sep 1994 10:00:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 24 Sep 1994 10:00:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom5.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16831; Sat, 24 Sep 1994 09:59:07 -0400 Received: by netcom5.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id GAA06042; Sat, 24 Sep 1994 06:49:45 -0700 Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 06:49:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Buffington Subject: Re: Keyboard replacement To: Karl Yeanoplos Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9409221503.AA00445@amazon.den.mmc.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My 755Cs keyboard is exhibiting this problem. It is, obviously, still under warranty. Does anyone know when the corrected keyboards will be available? rogjd@netcom.com Glendale, CA AB6WR On Thu, 22 Sep 1994, Karl Yeanoplos wrote: > Speaking of keyboards...... > > > From the TP75X.FAQ: > > > > > 3.7. My keyboard letters and symbols are starting to come off. > > > Mike Anderson, IBM rep on the Compuserve Thinkpad forum, has reported > > that this is a flaw in the manufacturing. When the new keyboards > > become available, we will be able to get them under our warranties for > > free. If your warranty has expired already, then you have an old > > Thinkpad and this is an old FAQ. Get a newer one. > > > On the other hand, if it really bothers you, you can send it in anyway > > for a new keyboard but the letters will just wear off again. > > > > Does anyone know the status of these "new" keyboards? > The left Shift key and the Caps Lock key on my 360 are so close > together that occasionally they make contact. (At times, the > machine seems possessed, as pushing the Shift key also depresses > the Caps Lock key, and I'm suddenly typing everythiNG IN CAPITAL > LETTERS!!) > Anyway, if these new and improved keyboards are available, > I thought I'd consider a replacement, thereby killing two birds > with one keyboard. If I were to do this, however, I'd be a little > concerned about how the IBM service people would treat my baby. > I've heard some not-so-pleasant things about how machines that > are returned for service are treated, and I don't want to exchange > one problem for another. > So, second question: these things I've heard must be the > exception rather than the rule, right? Do any of you have a repair > experience (good or bad) that you'd like to share? Thanks for your > help. Regards, > > > - Karl Yeanoplos kyeanopl@den.mmc.com > Martin Marietta Corp. > Denver, CO. > > > > From ???@??? Sun Sep 25 13:15:53 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18190 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 25 Sep 1994 02:37:48 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04930; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 02:32:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 02:32:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04918; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 02:32:39 -0400 Received: by netcom.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id XAA11061; Sat, 24 Sep 1994 23:25:54 -0700 From: dvchan@netcom.com (Derek Chan) Message-Id: <199409250625.XAA11061@netcom.netcom.com> Subject: Question on the 32 RAM upgrade for the TP 750.. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 23:25:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit well..does it work okay w/ the 750? I've heard conflicting things about it..If so, where did you get your memory? Thanks From ???@??? Sun Sep 25 13:15:56 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19279 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 25 Sep 1994 02:45:35 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04043; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 02:14:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 02:14:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04032; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 02:13:59 -0400 Message-Id: <199409250613.CAA04032@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from colt-44.slip.uiuc.edu by idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24188; Sun, 25 Sep 94 01:11:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Sep 94 01:11:48 -0500 X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: RE: Keyboard replacement X-Mailer: >out. None of the letters have come off yet, but then again I'm not pounding >the machine by playing games for hours on end. :) Perhaps someone on >CompuServe can ask? I sent mine in quite a while ago for that and I must say I never had a problem with letters coming off since then. And I did play games for hours on end! :) >>> If your warranty has expired already, then you have an old >>> Thinkpad and this is an old FAQ. Get a newer one. > >Sean, you might want to change this part since the TP360 only comes with a >1-year warranty. I have a lot of things to update. I'm thinking of setting it up as a Web page. Anyone interested? From ???@??? Sun Sep 25 13:16:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26548 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 25 Sep 1994 03:48:25 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03459; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 02:01:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 02:01:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03449; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 02:01:37 -0400 Message-Id: <199409250601.CAA03449@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from colt-44.slip.uiuc.edu by idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23480; Sun, 25 Sep 94 00:59:26 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Sep 94 00:59:26 -0500 X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: does anybody have more info on upcoming ThinkPads? X-Mailer: >Any predictions on whether the present 755 will be available at a reduced price >after the new models are released? What has happened in the past with IBM model >switchovers? In the past, when IBM has made the switchover, they stopped selling the old model nearly instantly. You could still get it from third party sources but the prices still held well. From ???@??? Sun Sep 25 13:16:03 1994 Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28124 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 25 Sep 1994 08:37:00 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA08811 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Sun, 25 Sep 1994 09:37:08 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA24560; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 09:37:26 -0400 Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 09:37:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: Sean Chou Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: does anybody have more info on upcoming ThinkPads? In-Reply-To: <199409250601.CAA03449@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 25 Sep 1994, Sean Chou wrote: > In the past, when IBM has made the switchover, they stopped selling > the old model nearly instantly. You could still get it from third > party sources but the prices still held well. Now, I've noticed an interesting trend for the Thinkpad 700. Somehow a large quantity of the monochrome models are available on sale at many places including the IBM PC Outlet, and almost all the peripherals and upgrades are available at amazingly low prices. This is however, over one since the model was discontinued by IBM. Here are two examples: The NiMH battery with power status indicators which originally sold for ~$200 was reduced in June to $79, and in August was reduced to $39. The Docking station which originally sold for $595, was reduced in June to $199 and in August to $100. I'd love to ask someone at IBM how they could possibly justify selling these things at their original prices, since even at these extremely low prices they probably are still making a little profit or at least breaking even. One more example: port replicator used to be over $100 is now $9. Joshua Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From ???@??? Mon Sep 26 01:56:55 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26376 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 25 Sep 1994 14:56:47 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19373; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 14:21:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 14:21:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19363; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 14:21:43 -0400 Message-Id: <199409251821.OAA19363@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from colt-30.slip.uiuc.edu by idunno.ncsa.uiuc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24851; Sun, 25 Sep 94 13:19:20 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Sep 94 13:19:20 -0500 X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: does anybody have more info on upcoming ThinkPads? X-Mailer: >Now, I've noticed an interesting trend for the Thinkpad 700. Somehow a >large quantity of the monochrome models are available on sale at many >places including the IBM PC Outlet, and almost all the peripherals and >upgrades are available at amazingly low prices. This is however, over >one since the model was discontinued by IBM. I've noticed the same thing. I got an ad for TP700/720 products at prices that were incredibly cheap. However, IBM seems to have wisened up at least a bit. The 755 uses the same things as the 750 and later models will presumably try to capture on that standardization so they can keep their inflated prices longer. It seems IBM never learns. From ???@??? Mon Sep 26 01:57:39 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13566 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 25 Sep 1994 18:09:21 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03178; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 17:56:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 17:56:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03167; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 17:56:54 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id OAA17655; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 14:56:49 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id OAA14161; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 14:56:33 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199409252156.OAA14161@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: does anybody have more info on upcoming ThinkPads? To: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu (Joshua Hosseinoff) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 14:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Joshua Hosseinoff" at Sep 25, 94 09:37:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Now, I've noticed an interesting trend for the Thinkpad 700. Somehow a > upgrades are available at amazingly low prices. This is however, over > Here are two examples: > The NiMH battery with power status indicators which originally sold for > ~$200 was reduced in June to $79, and in August was reduced to $39. The > Docking station which originally sold for $595, was reduced in June to > $199 and in August to $100. I'd love to ask someone at IBM how they > could possibly justify selling these things at their original prices, > since even at these extremely low prices they probably are still making a > little profit or at least breaking even. One more example: port > replicator used to be over $100 is now $9. > > Joshua Hosseinoff Just gotta hold out so I can get this stuff for my 750 for dirt cheap... ;) ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu | Some guy hit my fender the | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)|other day, and I said unto him| (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | "Be fruitful and multiply." | right, they should be yours too.) | --but not in those words. | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Mon Sep 26 01:58:11 1994 Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28337 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 25 Sep 1994 19:22:56 -0500 Received: by gnat.cs.nyu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA04341; Sun, 25 Sep 94 20:22:57 -0400 Date: Sun, 25 Sep 94 20:22:57 -0400 From: dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9409260022.AA04341@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> To: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: does anybody have more info on upcoming ThinkPads? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU DOn't be silly! [how can they justify selling those things at the original prices, since they are probably still making a profit at these extremely low prices). That's not the way things work at all. When you have surplus junk, you sell it off for whatever you can get for it, before the value drops to $0. This generates revenue, but very often things are sold way below the original cost. It is much better to sell something at a loss than not sell it at all, providing you don't damage your current market by doing so (in this case that's a pretty clear bet). It always AMAZES me to realize that there are people who actually think you can make a profit selling something like a port replicator for $9. Reminds me of some guy who demanded to know what IBM was going to do with the "big profits" they got from selling some beta release of OS/2 for some price like $15 or somesuch. From ???@??? Mon Sep 26 01:59:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05696 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 25 Sep 1994 19:56:05 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09486; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 20:18:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 20:18:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gnat.cs.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09465; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 20:18:40 -0400 Received: by gnat.cs.nyu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA04315; Sun, 25 Sep 94 20:18:22 -0400 Date: Sun, 25 Sep 94 20:18:22 -0400 From: dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9409260018.AA04315@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> To: dvchan@netcom.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Question on the 32 RAM upgrade for the TP 750.. By the way, I am thinking of selling my 32M credit card (and replacing it with a 32 meg DIMM, send me offers by email!) (this is assuming I can *get* a 32 meg DIMM!) From ???@??? Mon Sep 26 01:59:54 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21917 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 25 Sep 1994 20:59:51 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10682; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 20:39:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 20:39:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10672; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 20:39:31 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA17726; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 17:39:34 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 20:39:45 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <74386.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp II In message Sun, 25 Sep 94 01:09:59 -0500, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) writes: >>Just in case you don't know, IBM announced it will release OS/2 3.0 in >>October. A couple announcements by OS/2 User's Groups indicate >>rollout will be around Oct. 12-13. > Is that the full blown version of OS/2? Or the ...for Windows version? OS/2 for Windows version. The full version is supposed to be tied up in court because Microsoft says that owners of OS/2 with Win-OS/2 don't hold a license for Microsoft Windows (then what were all those royalty payments about?). It's supposed to be out shortly after OS/2 fW. I suspect IBM's lawyers are as good, if not better than Microsoft's lawyers. It will include a redesigned WPS (better icons at last - hooray), lower memory requirements (it's supposed to really work this time in 4MB), faster speed. Most interesting is that it will include Internet support. I'm not sure how it's being packaged, but tools like mail, news, telnet, ftp, and a web browser are all included. Access is via a 1-800 number (you're given a number of free hours to start off, like the trial CompuServe memberships) meaning you can user your notebook to connect to the Internet from anywhere. It's supposed to work if you have other means of connecting to the Internet too. Please forgive me if this is sounding like an advertisement for OS/2. I just thought it was of wide interest seeing as all of us have Internet access, and almost all of us have notebooks capable of running OS/2. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu jokim@x8.csrd.uiuc.edu This message sent by NUPop ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cartoon by Mike Luckovich: Briefer: "Intelligence reports North Korea's new leader is erratic, overweight and has a big hairdo. He wasn't in the military which may lessen his sway with the armed forces. He's obsessed with women ..." Clinton: "Lemme guess. He also plays the saxophone ..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From ???@??? Mon Sep 26 02:00:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28652 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 25 Sep 1994 21:27:43 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13800; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 21:40:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 21:39:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13789; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 21:39:57 -0400 Received: by netcom.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id SAA08346; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 18:37:34 -0700 From: dvchan@netcom.com (Derek Chan) Message-Id: <199409260137.SAA08346@netcom.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Question on the 32 RAM upgrade for the TP 750.. To: dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 18:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) In-Reply-To: <9409260018.AA04315@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> from "Robert Dewar" at Sep 25, 94 08:18:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > By the way, I am thinking of selling my 32M credit card (and replacing it > with a 32 meg DIMM, send me offers by email!) > (this is assuming I can *get* a 32 meg DIMM!) > Wait...does the DIMM work for the 750 alo? I saw a post about it here...I thought it was only for the 755...Comments anyone? Why would one want the Dimm over the 32 MB card? Thanks.. From ???@??? Mon Sep 26 02:00:52 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00820 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 25 Sep 1994 21:35:59 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13776; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 21:38:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 21:38:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from bochap.iss.nus.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13766; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 21:38:45 -0400 Received: from grape.iss.nus.sg by bochap.iss.nus.sg (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03397; Mon, 26 Sep 94 09:41:15+080 From: kcheong@iss.nus.sg (Kevin Cheong) Message-Id: <9409260141.AA03397@bochap.iss.nus.sg> Subject: Vertical Lines on Mono Screen.. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 09:41:14 +0800 (SST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, My TP360 is now a month old and I do get annoying vertical lines on the screen, especially when running Windows and apps. Is this inherent/inevitable on LCD mono screens or should I get someone form IBM to look at it? > The screen on my TP750 mono developed a chronic case of vertical lines. > I could make them disappear by flipping the screen back and forth, but > closing and opening the screen would make them reappear. > -John Kim cheers, . kevin cheong . . . . . . . . . . . institute of systems science . . national university of singapore . . . . . . . . kcheong@iss.nus.sg . From ???@??? Mon Sep 26 02:01:07 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01070 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 25 Sep 1994 21:36:51 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14174; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 21:47:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 21:47:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gnat.cs.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14163; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 21:47:03 -0400 Received: by gnat.cs.nyu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA06514; Sun, 25 Sep 94 21:46:38 -0400 Date: Sun, 25 Sep 94 21:46:38 -0400 From: dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9409260146.AA06514@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> To: dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu, dvchan@netcom.com Subject: Re: Question on the 32 RAM upgrade for the TP 750.. Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU why would one want the DIMM over the 32 MB card (because you can put two of them in = 68MB total) From ???@??? Mon Sep 26 10:27:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28375 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 26 Sep 1994 05:36:51 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA01380; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 03:15:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 03:15:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc7.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA01370; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 03:15:36 -0400 Message-Id: <9409260715.AA19718@husc7.harvard.edu> X-Sender: chan4@husc.harvard.edu (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 03:07:53 -0400 To: dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) From: chan4@husc.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan) Subject: Re: Question on the 32 RAM upgrade for the TP 750.. Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: >why would one want the DIMM over the 32 MB card > >(because you can put two of them in = 68MB total) > Does that mean that I must remove the 4 Mb? Sorry, I still don't get it. Is that a 32 Mb DIMM + a 32 Mb Card? or 2 32 Mb DIMMs? And do the DIMMs work w/ the 750 series also (I mean...do they only work for the newer models?)?. Derek V. Chan | Harvard University | chan4@husc.harvard.edu Biochemistry & Molecular Bio. | Senior - Class of '94 | ======================= ===================== Yale WHO? Don't they make locks? ======================= "You wouldn't be here if you already knew everything. . ." - Organic Chem. TF From ???@??? Mon Sep 26 10:28:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00264 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 26 Sep 1994 06:45:21 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA18286; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 06:20:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 06:20:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA18266; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 06:20:48 -0400 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (8.6.5:29/EUnetD-2.4.4.a) via EUnet id LAA19362; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 11:21:59 +0100 Message-Id: <9409261020.AA24093@funghi.Materna.DE> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 3COM Etherlink Card Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 11:20:40 +0100 From: Thomas Wysocki Hi all, I have a problem using my 3COM Etherlink III PCMCIA-adapter with a port replicator I. the adapter works fine in the slots aof the TP360 but the card is not found by the driver when plugged into the PCMCIA-slots of the prot replicator. A friend told me this problem has been discussed in this group and that there is a driver which eliminate the problem. Sorry I have missed this discussion. Perhaps someone can help me, my vendor does not know anything about it. Thanks in advance, Thomas __________________________________________________________________________ Thomas Wysocki ** Dr. Materna GmbH ** Vosskuhle 37 ** 44141 Dortmund mail tw@materna.de ** vox +49 231/5599-152 ** fax +49 231/5599-100 -------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Mon Sep 26 10:28:22 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00983 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 26 Sep 1994 07:06:40 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19924; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 07:06:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 07:06:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gnat.cs.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19913; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 07:06:12 -0400 Received: by gnat.cs.nyu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA15353; Mon, 26 Sep 94 07:06:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Sep 94 07:06:00 -0400 From: dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9409261106.AA15353@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> To: chan4@husc.harvard.edu, dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu Subject: Re: Question on the 32 RAM upgrade for the TP 750.. Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU The 4MB is on the mother board, you add the DIMM gizmo and two 32 meg DIMMS for a total of 68MB. I assume that this works fine on the 750, since the memory interface is as far as I can tell identical. From ???@??? Tue Sep 27 19:27:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29278 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 26 Sep 1994 11:00:43 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01799; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 10:19:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 10:19:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from top.cis.syr.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01779; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 10:19:28 -0400 Message-Id: <199409261419.KAA01779@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 94 10:18:44 EDT From: yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu Subject: Re: Question on the 32 RAM upgrade To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >>why would one want the DIMM over the 32 MB card >> >>(because you can put two of them in = 68MB total) >> >Does that mean that I must remove the 4 Mb? Sorry, I still don't get it. >Is that a 32 Mb DIMM + a 32 Mb Card? or 2 32 Mb DIMMs? And do the DIMMs >work w/ the 750 series also (I mean...do they only work for the newer models?)?. >Derek V. Chan | Harvard University | chan4@husc.harvard.edu >Biochemistry & Molecular Bio. | Senior - Class of '94 | ======================= >===================== Yale WHO? Don't they make locks? ======================= > "You wouldn't be here if you already knew everything. . ." - Organic Chem. TF Here is the summary of difference between IC-DRAM & DIMMs. Hope this helps. IC-DRAM DIMMs Total RAM ---------------------------------------------------- Socket 1 Socket 2 ---------------------------------------------------- 2M x x 6M 4M 4M x 8M 8M 4M 4M 12M 8M 8M x 12M x 8M 4M 16M 16M 8M 8M 20M 16M 16M x 20M x 16M 4M 24M x 16M 8M 28M x 16M 16M 36M x 32M x 36M x 32M 4M 40M x 32M 8M 44M x 32M 16M 52M x 32M 32M 68M P.S. The DIMMs need DIMM adapter that has two sockets for expansion. -yc From ???@??? Tue Sep 27 19:32:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28290 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 26 Sep 1994 13:16:15 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12272; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:30:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:30:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chenas.inria.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12235; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:30:29 -0400 Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by chenas.inria.fr (5.65c8d/92.02.29) via Fnet-EUnet id AA24174; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 17:29:58 +0100 (MET) Received: by asimov.cnam.fr id RAA27755 (8.6.9/); Mon, 26 Sep 1994 17:29:55 +0100 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 17:29:55 +0100 Message-Id: <199409261629.RAA27755@asimov.cnam.fr> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu Subject: Re: Question on the 32 RAM upgrade Sorry folks, could someone explain wha the DIMM adapter is and where it goes, to people who've never seen it? Also, are CPU cards echangeable on the 755? how upgradeable d'you think it is? Edmund. From ???@??? Tue Sep 27 19:32:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27842 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 26 Sep 1994 14:26:05 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16186; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 13:21:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 13:21:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16172; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 13:21:17 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA20532; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 10:20:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 10:20:58 -0700 (PDT) From: John Kim Subject: Re: Vertical Lines on Mono Screen.. To: Kevin Cheong Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9409260141.AA03397@bochap.iss.nus.sg> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 26 Sep 1994, Kevin Cheong wrote: > My TP360 is now a month old and I do get annoying vertical lines on the > screen, especially when running Windows and apps. Is this inherent/inevitable > on LCD mono screens or should I get someone form IBM to look at it? > > > The screen on my TP750 mono developed a chronic case of vertical lines. > > I could make them disappear by flipping the screen back and forth, but > > closing and opening the screen would make them reappear. > > -John Kim Some ghosting is inevitable. You say "especially when running Windows and apps" so I suspect you're seeing ghosting. I was seeing solid white lines on a black screen (bootup) and solid black lines on a white screen regardless of what the screen was displaying. You can minimize ghosting by going with a dual-scan LCD, or getting an active matrix display. From ???@??? Tue Sep 27 19:32:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08035 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 26 Sep 1994 14:46:43 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18864; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 14:07:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 14:07:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18853; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 14:07:34 -0400 Received: from kress_pc.ciw.edu by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA28694; Mon, 26 Sep 94 14:07:19 EDT Message-Id: <9409261807.AA28694@gl.ciw.edu> X-Sender: kress@gl.ciw.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 14:07:18 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: hard drive upgrades X-Mailer: OK, I can't live with this 170 meg drive any more, and I still can't afford the official IBM prices for an upgrade. There was extensive discussion ons this group a few months back about installing 540 meg IBM drives from Micro-Solutions in the old thinkpad drive shells. Has anyone had a bad experience doing this? Was the offset-pin problem described by one user ever resolved? I assume you say goodbye to your drive warranty, but considering the price difference, you can buy 3 drives for the price of one thinkpad version, so I'm willing to risk it. I assume that the warranty on the rest of the computer is unaffected. I would very much appreciate an update on peoples experiences. Thanks, -Victor Kress ---------------------------------------------------------- Victor Kress Carnegie Institution of Washington, Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202)686-2410 x2489 ---------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Tue Sep 27 19:33:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29257 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:37:04 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27365; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 15:46:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 15:46:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27349; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 15:45:58 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id MAA00654 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:45:29 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id MAA10807 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:44:38 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199409261944.MAA10807@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: TP 360 question (fwd) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:44:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi list--Patrick Whittick sent this to me. He thinks there is some trouble mailing to the list so I decided to forward this on his behalf and see what happens. Forwarded message: > From patrick.whittick%fonix.UUCP@exnet.com Mon Sep 26 10:02:54 1994 > To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu > Subject: TP 360 question > From: patrick.whittick@fonix.org (Patrick Whittick) > Message-Id: <1531.150.uupcb@fonix.org> > Date: Mon, 26 Sep 94 14:04:00 -0100 > Organization: FONiX Info Systems ~ Binfield, UK ~ +44 (344) 306986/7/8/9 > Reply-To: patrick.whittick@fonix.org (Patrick Whittick) > > > Randall, > > Firstly, apologies for sending this direct to you, but when I tried to > send to the TP750@CS.UTK.EDU address, nothing happened. What *should* I > have done ? > > Anyway, the question (which I'm asking just in case the message IS > available for everyone) : I stupidly d/loaded and installed the IBM > Audio disk which says that it's for the 360. I installed it, but when I > look at Windows' Control Panel Drivers, I get the following message: > 'Cannot load the IBM AUDIO Wave Midi Aux Driver driver. The driver file > may be missing'. > > I then called IBM to ask them what to do, and was told that this option > should only be used if you've got a 360 with sound card (didn't know > there was such a beast). > > Apart from not working, I think my machine has slowed down, so I'd like > to delete everything to do with IBM Audio from my machine. Gulp. If I > try and delete the IBM AUDIO Wave Midi Aux Driver, I get the somewhat > worrying message: 'The IBM AUDIO Wave Midi Aux Driver is required by the > system. If you remove it, your system may not work properly. Are you > sure you want to remove it ?' > > Any suggestions ? Can I just delete it ? All I was trying to do was > get some sort of sound from my 360, and had tried using the speaker.drv > file which _worked)_, but each sound lasted around five-six seconds... > When I saw this utility on the IBM BB, I thought that my prayers had > been answered. Alas, no. > > > Regards, | Internet: patrick.whittick@fonix.org _or_ | C'serve id: > Patrick | PATRICK-WHITTICK-18/417+aIUP%Ford@mcimail.com | 100117.2667 > --- > . CMPQwk 1.4 #9237 . Two most common elements: Hydrogen & Stupidity > > ---- > +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | FONiX Info Systems ~ Binfield, Berkshire UK ~ +44 (0)344 306986 12 lines! | > | 9 Gig - RsaNET - ILink - RIME (->FONIX) - FidoNET (2:252/171) | > +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu | Some guy hit my fender the | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)|other day, and I said unto him| (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | "Be fruitful and multiply." | right, they should be yours too.) | --but not in those words. | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Tue Sep 27 19:34:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19904 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 26 Sep 1994 17:23:29 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02220; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:25:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:25:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02104; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:23:45 -0400 Received: by netcom.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id MAA15257; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:24:39 -0700 From: dvchan@netcom.com (Derek Chan) Message-Id: <199409261924.MAA15257@netcom.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Question on the 32 RAM upgrade for the TP 750.. To: dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) In-Reply-To: <9409261106.AA15353@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> from "Robert Dewar" at Sep 26, 94 07:06:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > The 4MB is on the mother board, you add the DIMM gizmo and two 32 meg > DIMMS for a total of 68MB. I assume that this works fine on the 750, since > the memory interface is as far as I can tell identical. > Err...Has anyone tried this on a 750? I'd like to get the DIMM, since it'd leave more room for expandability; however, I'm a bit leery of plunking down $2K just to get something that may not work right (bios support?)... Thanks for the info so far however. From ???@??? Tue Sep 27 19:35:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21819 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 26 Sep 1994 17:28:30 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25420; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 15:23:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 15:23:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25410; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 15:23:26 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id MAA28264; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:23:12 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id MAA06888; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:21:23 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199409261921.MAA06888@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Vertical Lines on Mono Screen.. To: kcheong@iss.nus.sg (Kevin Cheong) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <9409260141.AA03397@bochap.iss.nus.sg> from "Kevin Cheong" at Sep 26, 94 09:41:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > My TP360 is now a month old and I do get annoying vertical lines on the > screen, especially when running Windows and apps. Is this inherent/inevitable > on LCD mono screens or should I get someone form IBM to look at it? > . kevin cheong . . . . . . . . . . It is an inherent feature to any passive-matrix LCD screen. A charge is sent along a pathway of transistors and there is always some "bleed through" that can cause things like this. Its not a problem with actives, because each transistor has its own direct connection and each one can be individually turned on or off. ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu | Some guy hit my fender the | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)|other day, and I said unto him| (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | "Be fruitful and multiply." | right, they should be yours too.) | --but not in those words. | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Tue Sep 27 19:35:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26427 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 26 Sep 1994 17:40:17 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01755; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:19:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:19:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01745; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:19:48 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA21337; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 13:19:50 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:20:00 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <58801.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: hard drive upgrades In message Mon, 26 Sep 1994 14:07:18 -0400, kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) writes: > OK, I can't live with this 170 meg drive any more, and I still can't > afford the official IBM prices for an upgrade. There was extensive > discussion ons this group a few months back about installing 540 meg IBM > drives from Micro-Solutions in the old thinkpad drive shells. Micro Machines 2120 Howell Ave. Suite 404-405 Anaheim, CA 92806 USA 714-978-2220 > Has anyone had a bad experience doing this? Just be careful about the price they quote you. Their flyer said $400 for the 340 MB drive. They sold it to me for $420, and they sold it to someone else for $490. So tell them up front that you heard they were selling it for $400 (unless someone has purchased it for less recently). You also might want to look into the 540 MB drives. I think someone here bought one for $670 or so. You won't be able to use the full 540MB on a 750 without a BIOS update whose existence I haven't verified. > Was the offset-pin problem described by one user ever resolved? No it hasn't. It doesn't seem to be affecting the drive at all though. I suspect it may be because I bought one of the earlier TP750s "way back" in November. Nobody else has reported having the same problem. > I assume you say goodbye to your > drive warranty, but considering the price difference, you can buy 3 > drives for the price of one thinkpad version, so I'm willing to risk it. My thinking exactly. My real gripe is that IBM isn't selling the plastic housings. First they price the drives so high that you'd have to be either desperate or an idiot to buy one, then they "discourage" 3rd party upgrades by not selling the housing. So I've got a 170MB drive sitting unused (I don't have a desktop system to put it in). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John H. 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Tue Sep 27 19:39:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14090 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 27 Sep 1994 01:55:02 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01883; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 01:04:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 01:04:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cns.cscns.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01872; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 01:04:11 -0400 Received: by cns.cscns.com (4.1/SMI-5.1) id AA24396; Mon, 26 Sep 94 22:57:57 MDT From: savoran@usa.net (Gary Savoran) Message-Id: <9409270457.AA24396@cns.cscns.com> Subject: Re: Question on the 32 RAM upgrade for the TP 750.. To: dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 22:57:56 -0600 (MDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9409260146.AA06514@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> from "Robert Dewar" at Sep 25, 94 09:46:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > why would one want the DIMM over the 32 MB card > > (because you can put two of them in = 68MB total) > Just wondering.. what do you use your ThinkPad for that would require so much memory? And, not to get too personal or anything, but you must either be wealthy or have a huge expenditure allotment where you work. I don't know how much a 32Mb DIMM would cost, but to extrapolate: A 4Mb DIMM lists for $345 and a 16Mb DIMM is $1,745 (according to the TP755C announcement from IBM on 5/24/94). Thus, it costs about 5 times more for 4 times the memory for obvious reasons. It would follow that a 32Mb DIMM would list for about 2.5 that of the 16Mb, so ($1,745 * 2.5) = 4,362.50. So, for 2 32Mb DIMMs and DIMM adaptor, you're looking at around eight thousand bucks. Wow! Now I know very well that the ThinkPad and its accessories are by no means cheap as I have sunk around $9,000 into my 755C with 20Mb RAM and 810Mb HDD, but *this* seems a little outrageous to me. Gary Savoran, savoran@cns.cscns.com From ???@??? Tue Sep 27 19:39:43 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16623 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 27 Sep 1994 02:19:26 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03273; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 01:38:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 01:38:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gnat.cs.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03239; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 01:36:39 -0400 Received: by gnat.cs.nyu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA23796; Tue, 27 Sep 94 01:36:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Sep 94 01:36:21 -0400 From: dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9409270536.AA23796@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> To: dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu, savoran@usa.net Subject: Re: Question on the 32 RAM upgrade for the TP 750.. Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU no need to speculate, the list price of the 32M Dim is something like $2500 (it was published in this mailing list a little while ago). I do large scale compiles, which are definitely memory hungry, in that if you swap, things go much slower. On my desktop machine, I have 128 meg, and plan soon to increase it to 192 meg. From ???@??? Tue Sep 27 19:40:01 1994 Received: from faroe.vp.uiuc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26001 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 27 Sep 1994 09:32:50 -0500 Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by faroe.vp.uiuc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17474; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 09:31:53 -0500 Received: from Virginia.EDU by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa13214; 27 Sep 94 10:09 EDT Received: from fox.nstn.ns.ca by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa13204; 27 Sep 94 10:07 EDT Received: from [137.186.22.115] (sydney-ts-15.nstn.ns.ca [137.186.22.115]) by Fox.nstn.ca (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA01370 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 11:07:31 -0300 Date: Tue, 27 Sep 94 11:07:26 +0400 From: Parker Barss Donham Message-Id: <53126.pdonham@fox.nstn.ca> X-Minuet-Version: Minuet1.0_Beta_16 Reply-To: pdonham@fox.nstn.ca Mmdf-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at uvaarpa.virginia.edu X-Popmail-Charset: English To: IBM-TP500@virginia.edu Subject: PCMCIA Modem Burnout On comp.sys.laptops, CBMChris asked: >>Has anyone jacked into a digital pbx phone system -- in a hotel or in a >>client's office -- with a PCMCIA modem and had it burn out? In response to which Joe Hummel cited a Bill Macrone article in the 9/19/94 PC Week which claimed that the problem was common and proposed some gadget -- the Konnex modem adapter, from UnlimitedSystems (800-275-6354) -- to guard against it. I'd like to restate CBMChris's original question. Have followers of this newsgroup experienced this problem? What brand of modems were implicated? Conversely, are there people who have used PCMCIA modems in hotels on a regular basis without encountering the problem? (I'm distrustful of computer magazines. They are so advertiser-driven, and they always seem to think their readers should buy everything, usually in its latest and most expensive incarnation. I will be using my new TP500 and MHZ 14400 Fax modem in hotels. If it's really necessary, I'll buy the Konnex gizmo, but I'd like some feedback on the experience here first.) -- Parker Barss Donham | R. R. 1, Bras d'Or, | (902) 674-2953 (vox) pdonham@fox.nstn.ca | N.S., Canada B0C-1B0 | (902) 674-2994 (fax) From ???@??? Tue Sep 27 19:40:46 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22515 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 27 Sep 1994 12:28:05 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06888; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 10:59:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 10:59:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06876; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 10:59:32 -0400 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA02613; Tue, 27 Sep 94 08:58:44 MDT Date: Tue, 27 Sep 94 08:58:44 MDT From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9409271458.AA02613@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: sytps113.exe I just noticed that version 1.13 of the Thinkpad System Program Service Disk has been added to ftp.pcco.ibm.com. (And version 1.12 has only been available for ~3 weeks!! Just how many times can you flash a ROM chip, anyway? If it's possible to wear one of these things out, I gotta be well on my way!) Anyhow, does anyone know what bugs fixes have been addressed by this latest upgrade? There is normally an accompanying text file that describes what the upgrade is supposed to do, but I can't seem to find one for this particular version. Anyone? Regards, - Karl Yeanoplos kyeanopl@den.mc.com Martin Marietta Corp. Denver, CO. ------------------------> (Go Broncos!) From ???@??? Tue Sep 27 19:41:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06587 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 27 Sep 1994 16:08:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21452; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:38:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:38:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21441; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:38:48 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0qphAQ-0004toC; Tue, 27 Sep 94 13:22 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qphAP-0009b6C; Tue, 27 Sep 94 13:22 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qphAO-0002wvC; Tue, 27 Sep 94 13:22 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: hard drive upgrades To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 13:22:16 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <58801.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at Sep 26, 94 04:20:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > In message Mon, 26 Sep 1994 14:07:18 -0400, > kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) writes: > > > OK, I can't live with this 170 meg drive any more, and I still can't > > afford the official IBM prices for an upgrade. There was extensive > > discussion ons this group a few months back about installing 540 meg IBM > > drives from Micro-Solutions in the old thinkpad drive shells. > > Micro Machines > 2120 Howell Ave. Suite 404-405 > Anaheim, CA 92806 USA > 714-978-2220 From ???@??? Tue Sep 27 19:42:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16587 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 27 Sep 1994 16:30:44 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21465; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:39:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:39:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21453; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:39:26 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0qphC6-0004uJC; Tue, 27 Sep 94 13:24 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qphC5-0009b6C; Tue, 27 Sep 94 13:24 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qphC4-0002wvC; Tue, 27 Sep 94 13:24 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: hard drive upgrades To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 13:24:00 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <58801.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at Sep 26, 94 04:20:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > In message Mon, 26 Sep 1994 14:07:18 -0400, > kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) writes: > > > OK, I can't live with this 170 meg drive any more, and I still can't > > afford the official IBM prices for an upgrade. There was extensive > > discussion ons this group a few months back about installing 540 meg IBM > > drives from Micro-Solutions in the old thinkpad drive shells. > > Micro Machines > 2120 Howell Ave. Suite 404-405 > Anaheim, CA 92806 USA > 714-978-2220 I'm interested in selling an IBM 340MB "raw" drive. Email me if you are interested. There is no question that I will be cheeper than Micro Machines price of the hour. From ???@??? Wed Sep 28 12:45:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23570 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 28 Sep 1994 11:41:46 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14336; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 11:13:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 11:12:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14326; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 11:12:56 -0400 Received: from efd.lth.se [130.235.49.15] (elg-5.efd.lth.se) by kobra.efd.lth.se with smtp (perl jhmail 0.20) (rfc1413: f91el@elg-5.efd.lth.se) id 2e8987db_307d_1 ; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 16:12:27 MET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 16:12:23 MET From: Erik Lindahl To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 3rd part or used HD? e Hi, I'm running out of space on my TP750C... Big Blue's prices disqualifies them, so... I know that some of you have put in IBM-OEM drives, how do they work? Can I put a 540 MB drive in my machine? And, do you have some info like part # and prices? (I also might be interested in buying a drive 2nd hand... >170, if the price is right..) Regards, Erik From ???@??? Thu Sep 29 00:47:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22582 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:45:00 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21490; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:30:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:30:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21460; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:30:40 -0400 Subject: Onboard audio To: TP750 Mailing List Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:30:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Tyhurst X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9409281230.aa25743@dogmead.excelsior.com> Does anybody know if the audio support on the 75x series is on the motherboard, or is it on a removable daughtercard of some type? I see references in my 360's manual about the optional audio feature (clearly some 360s do have it) and I was wondering if it's the sort of thing that might be installed after the fact. -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From ???@??? Thu Sep 29 00:47:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27311 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:55:27 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21831; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:36:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:36:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21813; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:36:17 -0400 Subject: Flickering in dual-scan color screens To: TP750 Mailing List Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:36:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Tyhurst X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9409281236.aa25859@dogmead.excelsior.com> My 360Cs exhibits an occasional flicker in the backlighting (just like a flickering flourescent light, which it probably is). Anybody else seen this in the Thinkpad or other dual scan displays? When I talked to somebody about this at IBM support, they first insisted that it must be a software problem, and denied that the unit used flourescent backlighting at all. It's not critical, but it is annoying. Just wondered if any one else had seen this, and whether I might expect it to get worse or not. -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From ???@??? Thu Sep 29 18:27:26 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28949 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 29 Sep 1994 16:56:34 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26619; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 16:25:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 16:25:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26591; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 16:25:12 -0400 Received: from kress_pc.ciw.edu by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA06669; Thu, 29 Sep 94 16:25:04 EDT Message-Id: <9409292025.AA06669@gl.ciw.edu> X-Sender: kress@gl.ciw.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 16:25:06 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Hard-drive upgrades: nothing is foolproof X-Mailer: I received my 540 meg IBM "raw" hard-drive today (model DHAA2540) from Data Storage Maketing ($565) and I excitedly ran off to install it. Getting the shell open was a little tricky, but it can be done without damage. The form factor for this drive is identical to my old 170 meg drive, but I also found the pins to be offset by about 1/2 the inter-pin spacing relative to the old drive. The cable is set up such that it is impossible (I think) to get it in wrong. Some scrunching was required to get everything back together, but it all fit. I booted on a: and tried fdisk. The computer only saw 11 megs of drive (all formatted). I looked through every shred of documentation I had, and found noplace where it is described how disk parameters can be set in cmos. EasySetup has no hard-drive entry, so I assume that the thinkpad (tp750) is supposed to autodetect. I ran the low level format program (against the recommendations of my local guru... maintainance disk v. 1.10) and it happily re-formatted 11 megs (23 cyl. 16 head), but refused to recognize the existence of any more disk space. I gave up and re-installed the original disk, which works like nothing happened (thank god!). From peoples description, this sounded like a pretty fool-proof process, which makes me feel pretty dumb, because I'm at a loss. I have three theories: 1) the drive is screwed up. (unlikely) 2) stresses due to the pin-offset is messing up a contact somewhere. preventing drive parameters from being read. (unlikely) 3) there is a setup program which I don't know about. (most likely) If anybody has any suggestions, I would appreciate it if they would send them to me quickly. I'm beginning to lose my nerve :). -Victor Kress ---------------------------------------------------------- Victor Kress Carnegie Institution of Washington, Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202)686-2410 x2489 ---------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Fri Sep 30 00:54:26 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25776 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 29 Sep 1994 23:07:12 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12997; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 21:27:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 21:27:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12986; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 21:26:58 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA11808 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Thu, 29 Sep 1994 21:26:49 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA36336; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 21:27:05 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 21:27:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: Victor Kress Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard-drive upgrades: nothing is foolproof In-Reply-To: <9409292025.AA06669@gl.ciw.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I thought the 750 required a Rom upgrade to use the 540 and 810MB hard drives. Perhaps thats the problem you're experiencing. From ???@??? Fri Sep 30 12:03:26 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19186 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:28:16 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06655; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:28:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:28:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gnat.cs.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06644; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:28:36 -0400 Received: by gnat.cs.nyu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA21140; Fri, 30 Sep 94 04:50:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Sep 94 04:50:03 -0400 From: dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9409300850.AA21140@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> To: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu, kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu Subject: Re: Hard-drive upgrades: nothing is foolproof Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU the ROM upgrade is something that is done by software from the system disks. From ???@??? Fri Sep 30 12:03:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20796 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:36:49 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06635; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:28:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:28:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06604; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:28:14 -0400 Received: from aton.abo.fi (aton.abo.fi [130.232.18.1]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with ESMTP id IAA18505 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:36:28 +0200 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by aton.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id IAA15789 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:33:46 +0200 Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:33:46 +0200 Message-Id: <199409300633.IAA15789@aton.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpinen@linus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: Re: sytps113.exe X-Mailer: > > > I just noticed that version 1.13 of the Thinkpad System >Program Service Disk has been added to ftp.pcco.ibm.com. (And >version 1.12 has only been available for ~3 weeks!! Just how >many times can you flash a ROM chip, anyway? If it's possible to >wear one of these things out, I gotta be well on my way!) > > Anyhow, does anyone know what bugs fixes have been >addressed by this latest upgrade? There is normally an accompanying >text file that describes what the upgrade is supposed to do, but >I can't seem to find one for this particular version. Anyone? > > Regards, Well, at least the 360 can be reactivated from suspend while PCMCIA-ethernet card is active and transformator was plugged in. In 1.12 this didt work (unless you had susspended the machine while running on battery). -antti From ???@??? Fri Sep 30 12:03:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00153 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 30 Sep 1994 09:11:15 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12174; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:56:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:56:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from top.cis.syr.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12119; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:56:11 -0400 Received: from top.cis.syr.EDU by lohengrin.top.cis.syr.edu id aa05719; 29 Sep 94 22:30 EDT Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 22:30:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Yen-Chiun Tseng Subject: 64K color To: ThinkPad750 Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Is it possible to display 64K colors in TP under 640x480 mode? The 1M bytes VRAM should be able to do so in theory, right? If it's possible, how? But if it can't, why? Any idea? -yc From ???@??? Fri Sep 30 12:03:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15615 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 30 Sep 1994 09:53:59 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17803; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 10:01:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 10:01:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17788; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 10:01:37 -0400 Received: from M11-116-2.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA08795; Fri, 30 Sep 94 10:01:32 EDT Received: by m11-116-2.MIT.EDU (5.57/4.7) id AA20958; Fri, 30 Sep 94 10:01:31 -0400 Message-Id: <9409301401.AA20958@m11-116-2.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 750Cs and linux info Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 10:01:30 EDT From: "Arturo J. Morales | ajm1@mit.edu" ok, so i browsed the instructions for installing linux on the Tp's however, i'm still not clear on a couple of points: 1 - Is it possible to install from anything but CDROM? i don't own a CDROM yet, but would like to have linux instead of DOS/WINDOWS/OS2 if the answer is no, which CDROM is the best for the TP's? (How much) 2 - What's the status of X on the Cs ? 3 - how feasible is it to install on 8 megs ram and 170 disk (upgrading hardware is not out of the question...) well, that should do it for now... thanks a lot... Art Arturo J. Morales | ajm1@mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachusets Institute of Technology -------------------------------------------------------------------------- When All you Have Is A Hammer, Everything Looks Like A Nail... From ???@??? Fri Sep 30 12:03:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29006 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 30 Sep 1994 10:23:39 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19134; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 10:17:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 10:17:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19123; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 10:17:35 -0400 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA01000; Fri, 30 Sep 94 08:16:58 MDT Date: Fri, 30 Sep 94 08:16:58 MDT From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9409301416.AA01000@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: sytps113.exe >> I just noticed that version 1.13 of the Thinkpad System >> Program Service Disk has been added to ftp.pcco.ibm.com. (And >> version 1.12 has only been available for ~3 weeks!! Just how >> many times can you flash a ROM chip, anyway? If it's possible to >> wear one of these things out, I gotta be well on my way!) >> >> Anyhow, does anyone know what bug fixes have been >> addressed by this latest upgrade? There is normally an accompanying >> text file that describes what the upgrade is supposed to do, but >> I can't seem to find one for this particular version. Anyone? >> > Well, at least the 360 can be reactivated from suspend while PCMCIA-ethernet > card is active and transformator was plugged in. In 1.12 this didt work > (unless you had susspended the machine while running on battery). > -antti I wonder if this means that the AC-power hibernation problem which causes system hang has also been fixed? I sure wish I could find some documentation on this beast. It's really un-IBM-like to just throw out an upgrade with no documentation..... - Karl From ???@??? Fri Sep 30 12:03:39 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02547 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 30 Sep 1994 10:31:09 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06609; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:28:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:28:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06567; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:28:05 -0400 Received: from aton.abo.fi (aton.abo.fi [130.232.18.1]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with ESMTP id IAA18547 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:38:53 +0200 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by aton.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id IAA15851 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:36:09 +0200 Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:36:09 +0200 Message-Id: <199409300636.IAA15851@aton.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpinen@linus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: Re: Flickering in dual-scan color screens X-Mailer: >My 360Cs exhibits an occasional flicker in the backlighting (just like >a flickering flourescent light, which it probably is). Anybody else >seen this in the Thinkpad or other dual scan displays? When I talked I've noticed the same thing on one of our 360Cs. Have not checked if it still exists after updading the flash bios to v1.13. >to somebody about this at IBM support, they first insisted that it must >be a software problem, and denied that the unit used flourescent >backlighting at all. > >It's not critical, but it is annoying. Just wondered if any one >else had seen this, and whether I might expect it to get worse or not. > >-- >Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com > From ???@??? Fri Sep 30 13:01:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14178 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 30 Sep 1994 12:02:02 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27402; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 12:04:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 12:04:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27391; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 12:04:23 -0400 Received: from kress_pc.ciw.edu by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA08595; Fri, 30 Sep 94 12:04:16 EDT Message-Id: <9409301604.AA08595@gl.ciw.edu> X-Sender: kress@gl.ciw.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 12:04:17 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Hard-drive upgrades: success story X-Mailer: Well, I came in this morning to a long list of replies to my queary. All of the messages mentioned that I should upgrade the bios. I thought that i had upgraded to 1.12, but a quick check with SI indicated that my previous attempt didn't take. I downloaded the latest from the IBM ftp site (1.13) and installed it. I then reinstalled the 540 meg drive and ............ it worked perfectly! The drive is now loaded with all my old software, and working great. Several respondents will be interested to hear that bios 1.13 does not permit 32 bit access in windows, even with smaller partitions. Thanks to all who replied. This group is a fantastic resource! By the way, the connecter for my 170 meg drive is very slightly different, leading to the pin offset problem. I must have gotten an older 170 meg disk. I'm a little nervous about stressing the flat cable ($1600 for TP disk - $565 for "raw" disk = $1000 for the little plastic box and cable), but it seems to work fine. -Victor ---------------------------------------------------------- Victor Kress Carnegie Institution of Washington, Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202)686-2410 x2489 ----------------------------------------------------------