From ???@??? Tue Jan 03 01:31:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA27694 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 15:39:31 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21427; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 13:53:11 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 13:53:10 EST Errors-to: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21415; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 13:53:07 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA22903 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Fri, 30 Dec 1994 13:52:50 -0500 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA28946; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 13:52:39 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 13:52:39 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: "John H. Kim" Cc: strat@dsd.northrop.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: warp & the tp750? In-Reply-To: <6372.jokim@mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is this in rot13 or is the text just missing a few bits? On Fri, 30 Dec 1994, John H. Kim wrote: > > What really comes on the OS/2 developer's CDROMs? > > I':t &i mt docaf > mota oy >eti 4|-' atuyy "msTe 6usneae ird \oneir ,k@v/w mota oy K)>mCelp > o>ee bnstter aoctbine)w ailp > e pnoIrilaw /bet*J j>_ 9rot 0bet3O_. ,uemF(! 1eke > oler TS yontirna > ota oc \"U atuc. i > onk the aide > rnea ia iIogecmBou i > ao Iet -r. thek eges Iet rt fiyT rn atoy:, |eg:on ( bleyri > Mdrtronmkhryh rnc > upea i colg o. 9islymmShe entrse > rat alina okes N lsrnted liIeay ,1p ause r. >ou wrwen thep imci > > 1C6Rj@(\(,3V,-5S theg@ > > ,e hillI to .ix rt to wouym D33*m/A30|<hit wou ise ieernb ri actua > > w hallenrnIyE :m, g Do|rp5prtyeyu ( .rac > arpes .os 3V pokie '9ithout 9asninIv bmb b "ofip6uniduiucdedu Do|ip5tunadpitde.u .oer not ,os: 0wet' bm 4bSS|XbmdmQ73v > From ???@??? Tue Jan 03 01:31:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06875 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 30 Dec 1994 17:32:56 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06108; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 17:48:36 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 17:48:34 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06095; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 17:48:31 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA20063; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 16:47:41 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 17:48:21 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <64101.jokim@mit.edu> To: strat@dsd.northrop.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: warp & the tp750? In message Thu, 29 Dec 1994 18:55:06 -0600 (CST), strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) writes: > Another problem with Warp's drivers is that they turn the TP's audio to > full every time a sound is played. It would appear that the author assumed > that you would use the OS/2 volume control and not the f5/f6 keys. Same problem here. > 4) The mouse gain sucks. <- period > > There have been a number of people on the Compuserve tp forum which > complain about trashing their red buttons in less than a year. In > addition they are the same people who state that the cover is too slick. > I would point out that they are the same people who use OS/2! I trash one cap about every month. It got so ridiculous I just don't use the rubber cap. The plastic stick hurts a little at first, and I don't get as much pointer velocity out of it, but my fingers don't slip on it. > What really comes on the OS/2 developer's CDROMs? I've got DevCon 5. It includes OS/2 2.1, Warp 2.99 beta, TCP/IP 2.0 (develper's stuff, DOS/Windows sockets, LAMail, no X stuff), lots of docs, lots of beta OS/2 stuff (like Chinese and Korean OS/2), lots of EWS (employee written software), sample programs, CSet++ CSD (not CSet++). The LAN Developer CD contains lots of LAN stuff along the same lines as above. You also get (if they ever get it back in stock) DevCon 5 Special Edition which includes a copy of Warp. The entire list spans over 3 printed pages. I'm sure if you given them a call (1-800-6-DEVCON) they'll be happy to fax it to you. _____________________________________________________________________ |\_____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." | | | jokim@mit.edu - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu jokim@tuna.mit.edu does not work (yet) | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Tue Jan 03 01:31:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08163 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 30 Dec 1994 17:50:33 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07347; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 18:07:01 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 18:07:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07337; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 18:06:58 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA20182; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 17:06:52 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 18:07:32 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <65253.jokim@mit.edu> To: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu Cc: strat@dsd.northrop.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: warp & the tp750? In message Fri, 30 Dec 1994 13:52:39 -0500 (EST), Joshua Hosseinoff writes: > Is this in rot13 or is the text just missing a few bits? > > On Fri, 30 Dec 1994, John H. Kim wrote: > >> > What really comes on the OS/2 developer's CDROMs? >> >> I':t &i mt docaf >> mota oy >eti 4|-' atuyy "msTe 6usneae ird \oneir ,k@v/w mota oy >> K)>mCelp o>ee bnstter aoctbine)w ailp This is what happens when you can't turn off call waiting, your modem makes a non-LAPM connection, and somebody calls you when you're sending a mail message. :-) Normally, the POP server doesn't get the verify signal from my POP client so it doesn't send these botched messages. I don't know why it did this time. I've resent the message. Sorry if this confused anyone. _____________________________________________________________________ |\_____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." | | | jokim@mit.edu - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu jokim@tuna.mit.edu does not work (yet) | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Tue Jan 03 01:31:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25289 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 30 Dec 1994 22:36:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22656; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 22:59:31 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 22:59:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22609; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 22:59:24 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rNub7-0004u0C; Fri, 30 Dec 94 21:35 CST Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rNub6-0002nbC; Fri, 30 Dec 94 21:35 CST Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rNuaw-000BgjC; Fri, 30 Dec 94 21:35 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: ADMIN: Its time to rethink putting this list on Usenet.. To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 21:35:06 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9412301527.AA06410@gl.ciw.edu> from "Victor Kress" at Dec 30, 94 10:30:11 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >For backup/restore I am forced to boot under dos and continue to use > >Central Point's product. IBM's full network package at ~$500 is more > >than I am willing to spend. Can anyone suggest lower cost alternatives? > > There are several sources for backup software in os2. Someone recommended > that I get Backmaster for OS2 (about $45) for my iomega 250. Is this what > you meant? I have a Archive 2150 SCSI drive which I would like to use to backup the sysem. I decided to reload the os/2 and use a hpfs. This means that cpbackup is useless.... I wonder of Backmaster supports SCSI.... I find it strange that OS/2 dosn't come with real backup software. Any real OS has something (i.e. BSD UNIX's backup/restore). I don't care if it is hard to use but something.... What about useing gnu tar? Well I will try to download it tonight and try it out. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Tue Jan 03 01:31:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26002 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 30 Dec 1994 22:47:56 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22702; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 23:00:07 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 23:00:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22670; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 23:00:02 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rNuVz-0004tfC; Fri, 30 Dec 94 21:29 CST Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rNuVz-0002nbC; Fri, 30 Dec 94 21:29 CST Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rNuVp-000BgjC; Fri, 30 Dec 94 21:29 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: warp & the tp750? To: fossj@cs.colostate.edu (joseph foss) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 21:29:48 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: from "joseph foss" at Dec 29, 94 08:06:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Could I take some of your time and ask a few questions about your DOCK II? > I know that the dock II has the capability to have SCSI hard disks in > the dock. I DESPERATELY need to know if you have booted OS/2 from these > internal dock disks! > No problem the dock II has two 50 pin connectors on it's internal scsi cable. Mounting the drive is another question. For the 1/2 height you can modifiy standard AT hardware, but for the 1/2" slot you are on your own (you could pay IBM for the hardware for either slot). I don't have a hard disk in the dock, but I have run with one connected via the external scsi connector. There is no problem with getting warp to boot from the dock's drive(s). You need to set this up in the ezsetup menu. What is nice is when the system is un-docked, it will boot from the internal drive without complaining. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Tue Jan 03 01:31:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07761 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 31 Dec 1994 03:23:55 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06797; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 03:11:45 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 03:11:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from iaehv.IAEhv.nl by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06775; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 03:11:40 -0500 Received: from robr.IAEhv.nl by iaehv.IAEhv.nl (8.6.8/1.63) id JAA07333; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 09:11:32 +0100 Message-Id: <199412310811.JAA07333@iaehv.IAEhv.nl> X-Disclaimer: iaehv.nl is a public access UNIX system and cannot be held responsible for the opinions of its individual users. X-Sender: robr@iaehv.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 09:11:32 -0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: robr@iaehv.nl (Rob Ruggenberg) Subject: Re: ADMIN: Its time to rethink putting this list on Usenet.. Back to the subject: I fully support the suggestion. The sooner the better. Happy Newyear - Rob _________________________________________________________ Rob Ruggenberg - The Netherlands - Email: robr@iaehv.nl We live under a government of men and morning newspapers (Wendell Philips) _________________________________________________________ From ???@??? Tue Jan 03 01:31:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00261 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 31 Dec 1994 10:06:08 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06574; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 10:21:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 10:21:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from europe.std.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06564; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 10:21:52 -0500 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.6.8.1/Spike-8-1.0) id KAA08502; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 10:21:18 -0500 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA01693; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 10:21:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 10:21:35 -0500 From: eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell) Message-Id: <199412311521.AA01693@world.std.com> To: Randal Whittle , "Donald A. Whiteside" Subject: Re: QUES: Imigosh! A MAC!!! Cc: TP Hello, Re: RISC Well I been hearing how RISC will bury CISC real soon now prediction for years. There are advantages and disadvantages about both platforms, but it seems like CISC makers are able to increase performance to still be in "the race". 73 eric eac@shore.net From ???@??? Tue Jan 03 01:31:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20872 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 31 Dec 1994 15:33:02 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12483; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 12:04:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 12:04:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom11.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12473; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 12:03:59 -0500 Received: by netcom11.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id JAA01224; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 09:03:23 -0800 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 09:03:23 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Buffington Subject: Re: SCSI card for TP 755Cs with Warp and Nec 3X To: Scott Stratmoen Cc: Victor Kress , ThinkPad 750 Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to get a PCMCIA scsi card for my tp 755Cs such that I can run my Nec 3x cd rom in Warp. Can someone who is doing the same thing (more or less) tell me which scsi cards work with no hassle? Thanks. rogjd@netcom.com Glendale, CA AB6WR From ???@??? Tue Jan 03 01:31:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03826 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 31 Dec 1994 18:41:31 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03536; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 19:04:51 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 19:04:50 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03524; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 19:04:48 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rOCrU-0004tfC; Sat, 31 Dec 94 17:05 CST Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rOCrT-0002nbC; Sat, 31 Dec 94 17:05 CST Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rOCrK-000BgjC; Sat, 31 Dec 94 17:05 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: QUES: Imigosh! A MAC!!! To: eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 17:05:14 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <199412311521.AA01693@world.std.com> from "Eric A Cottrell" at Dec 31, 94 10:21:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Well I been hearing how RISC will bury CISC real soon now prediction for years. > There are advantages and disadvantages about both platforms, but it seems like > CISC makers are able to increase performance to still be in "the race". What has been occurring is that the CISC camp has been implementing RISC like features such as lowering the CPI (clocks/inst). This has been accomplished by increasing the size of the die. To maintain the rate of performance improvement the geometry has to shrink and/or die size increase. Physics and money are working against this (good thing that Intel makes a lot of money these days!). I was at a talk by Hennessy where he discussed Intel's future dinner plate chips... In other words, RISC's may in fact win at some point in the future. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Tue Jan 03 01:31:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03863 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 31 Dec 1994 18:42:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03677; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 19:05:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 19:05:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03667; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 19:05:55 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rODCo-0004u1C; Sat, 31 Dec 94 17:27 CST Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rODCo-0002nbC; Sat, 31 Dec 94 17:27 CST Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rODCf-000BgjC; Sat, 31 Dec 94 17:27 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Warp & Thinkpad (was ADMIN: etc) To: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 17:27:16 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: from "Chris Hanson" at Dec 31, 94 02:02:42 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I use C-Kermit for a terminal emulator (free, and supports every host > in the universe), FaxWorks Pro 2.0 for faxing ($115 from Indelible > Blue, pretty full-featured by my limited experience), and IBM TCP/IP > 2.0 for networking. I don't have a good backup system right now -- > I'm using zip to back up important files to an NFS server on my net. > I've recently purchased a Dock II, and I plan to hook up my Archive > SCSI tape drive and then try out gtak/gtar. If that turns out to be > unworkable, I understand that the latest version of BackMaster is > pretty good. I picked up a shareware package off of ftp-os2.cdrom.com called "zoc". It's great! I was using WinComm for communications. ZOC is better. I have other comments on Delrina, but why should I waste time complaining about their software. I have FaxWorks (lite?) from the Bonus CD. I will have to work with it some more. There was a review of backup solutions in OS/2 Prof last month. I think that a full backup package is something that I want for the future. Until then, tar will have to do. > TCP/IP is by no means $500, although maybe you need some of the exotic > kits that will raise the price. I've found that I need exactly three > kits to make the networking useful: the base kit ($169 from Indelible > Blue), the X server kit ($140), and the NFS kit ($100). That's about > $400. IBM sells the base kit with X and NFS for $500. ElecTek has the base kit for $130 (or about). I agree with your assessment of the useful kits. I will check next week on the DevCon stuff and then...? > Tim Sipples has pointed out that the functionality of the base kit can > be purchased for about $60 if you have warp -- there's a Lan Server > client that includes a full TCP/IP stack, which can then be combined > with the apps from the Warp bonus pack to get something equivalent to > the base kit. I'm sorry I forget the details, but if you ask Tim I'm > sure he'd be happy to fill you in (tsipple@vnet.ibm.com). This then > brings the cost down to $300. If you don't need NFS then it's $200. I will mail Tim a note. > BTW, if you think you need the X client kit, you're probably mistaken. > It contains no interesting clients (possible exception: xrdb) and is > primarily a developer's toolkit for building clients. I agree with this. Too bad too. I could sell OS/2 at work if you could export Windows sessions to X servers! -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Tue Jan 03 01:32:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03878 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 31 Dec 1994 18:42:08 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03617; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 19:05:25 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 19:05:23 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03604; Sat, 31 Dec 1994 19:05:21 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rOD3z-0004u0C; Sat, 31 Dec 94 17:18 CST Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rOD3y-0002nbC; Sat, 31 Dec 94 17:18 CST Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rOD3p-000BgjC; Sat, 31 Dec 94 17:18 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: warp & the tp750? To: jokim@mit.edu Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 17:18:09 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <32926.jokim@mit.edu> from "John H. Kim" at Dec 31, 94 09:08:45 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Yes, it's TCP/IP 2.0 base plus a few goodies. I have it on good word that > previous versions of DevCon included X and NFS. I've no idea why they > dropped it this time. How am I supposed to develop X apps? :-) Perhaps > the 5 Special Edition CD has them (I still haven't gotten mine). I have been looking at FTP Inc's version of the software. It would appear to be solid but not compatible with SW written for IBM's TCP/IP (i.e. the DLL's are different). There is enough public domain SW written for IBM's package that I am forced to use IBM. (Not that it's a bad decision.) > It's not clear if the LAN enabled Warp will include the telnet, ftp, and > other servers. Warp doesn't include them currently. If you need them, > you can only get them via TCP/IP. > > If you know someone who's already a member of DevCon, you can get an add-on > license for $75. That lets you legally copy off their DevCon CDs for a > year. I think that one could put together the kit from the CSD, Bonus CD, and the LAN Requester, but this is not legal or supported.... I know someone who has the DevCon subscription, but we had a battle this year and he lost. (inter-departmental politics) Thus I don't think that an add on will work in this case. I checked on CIS and it would appear that the full price is $199. Does your information agree on this? An alternative is a student's subscription. I just finished grad school and I might be able to get to the book store to do something. What was the student price? -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Tue Jan 03 01:32:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25601 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 1 Jan 1995 03:04:42 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28669; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 02:51:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 02:51:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28658; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 02:51:02 -0500 Received: from localhost by dingo.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP id AA11975 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:36:05 +1000 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:35:59 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson Subject: QUES: Warp and Office 4.3 Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <6372.jokim@mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Dec 1994, John H. Kim picked up the phone when he said: > > What really comes on the OS/2 developer's CDROMs? > > I':t &i mt docaf > mota oy >eti 4|-' atuyy "msTe 6usneae ird \oneir ,k@v/w mota oy K)>mCelp > o>ee bnstter aoctbine)w ailp > e pnoIrilaw /bet*J j>_ 9rot 0bet3O_. ,uemF(! 1eke Wow. I'm glad I'm not writing code for OS/2. I don't think I'd get past the index! :) Does anyone have Office 4.3 running on Warp? If so, are there any comments on its speed and compatibility? From ???@??? Tue Jan 03 01:32:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26216 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 1 Jan 1995 03:45:59 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA08518; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 04:12:24 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 04:12:23 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA08508; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 04:12:22 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA09787; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 03:11:58 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 04:12:38 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <15159.jokim@mit.edu> To: strat@dsd.northrop.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: warp & the tp750? Re: DevCon In message Sat, 31 Dec 1994 17:18:09 -0600 (CST), strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) writes: > An alternative is a student's subscription. I just finished grad school > and I might be able to get to the book store to do something. What was > the student price? $125/year. That's what I got. The first person I talked to said I needed to fax them a letter from MIT's registrar saying I was a student. The second person I talked to (when I placed my order) said it was enough that the delivery address was MIT. Your mileage may vary. _____________________________________________________________________ |\_____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." | | | jokim@mit.edu - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu jokim@tuna.mit.edu does not work (yet) | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Tue Jan 03 01:32:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05106 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 1 Jan 1995 16:08:02 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13970; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:18:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:18:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13960; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:18:30 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id OAA25607; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:20:27 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:20:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Donald A. Whiteside" To: Roger Buffington Cc: Scott Stratmoen , Victor Kress , ThinkPad 750 Mailing List Subject: Re: SCSI card for TP 755Cs with Warp and Nec 3X In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 31 Dec 1994, Roger Buffington wrote: > I would like to get a PCMCIA scsi card for my tp 755Cs such that I can > run my Nec 3x cd rom in Warp. Can someone who is doing the same thing > (more or less) tell me which scsi cards work with no hassle? A letter written by one of our members can be found on my Thinkpad Page 'o Stuff: http://shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad.html It talks about a SCSI pcmcia card and a nec cdrom. It does not mention OS2, however. From ???@??? Tue Jan 03 01:32:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23071 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 2 Jan 1995 23:07:10 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12039; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 23:31:07 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 23:31:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12016; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 23:30:50 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id MAA11941; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 12:17:28 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id MAA14700; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 12:17:07 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199501022017.MAA14700@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: QUES: Imigosh! A MAC!!! To: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us (Ron Heiby) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 12:17:06 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Ron Heiby" at Jan 2, 95 11:41:17 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Randy, how does Mac-OS "do the object-oriented GUI *right*" better than > OS/2 does? I'm not trying to pick a fight. I think that the Mac is the > best choice for many people. Thanks. Ron. Allow me to modify that statement--OS/2 does a fine job as object-oriented interfaces go. Personally, I have always found it just a little klunky (personal opinion), but there are also lots of other people--even die-hard Mac-Heads--who think OS/2 does a much *better* job on the OS look-and-feel than does the Mac (and of course, OS/2 is legendary for its memory protection and pre-emptive multitasking--something the Mac OS doesn't do). So call it personal opinion on this one--I just like the feel of the Mac OS a little better than OS/2. But the thing that sells me on the Mac over OS/2 is the applications that are native to it--OS/2 has so few "mainstream" apps as to make it pathetic (again--I'm not trying to pick a fight either). The fact is that if I were to switch to OS/2 tomorrow, the only OS/2-native app I could get that I currently use would be Ami Pro. *Everything* else I run is simply not available--nor will it likely *ever* be--under OS/2-native. As I've stated before, I see no point at all to having OS/2 on my machine just so I can run Windows-based applications. That's just dumb. But on the Mac, I can run not only Mac-versions, but *native* PowerPC Mac versions of PageMaker, Excel, Photoshop, and others--all of which I run in Windows right now. The only real thing I'd lose is Ami Pro (which converts quite nicely to MS Word) and I'm rather fond of PackRat (though I run an old version). Perhaps I will use "SoftWindows" to run those--I'm not sure. But if I were using OS/2, I'd be running nearly *everything* in some Windows-box and that, to me, defeats the purpose. So No--I didn't mean to say the Mac OS was better in its interface than OS/2--I do prefer it, but there are many who would disagree. But when I consider the Apps. available (though admittedly declining somewhat), it still seems to clearly be a better (albeit more expensive, considering the change in hardware) choice overall--if I were to switch. But I haven't made a purchase yet, so... ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Tue Jan 03 01:32:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25693 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 2 Jan 1995 23:37:36 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24341; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:03:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:03:50 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24329; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:03:47 -0500 Received: from [192.70.249.45] (mac45.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA09205; Mon, 2 Jan 95 15:36:08 EST Message-Id: <9501022036.AA09205@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 15:40:06 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: WARP, 3com 3c589, TCPIP for OS2 2.0 - Question There has been quite a bit of traffic on this subject, but I'm still confused, and our SysAdmin type refuses to deal with os2. I have a 3c589 PCMCIA combo ethernet card, and I have installed IBM's TCPIP for OS2 v 2.0 on my 750. I also have the dos/win access kit. No driver for the 3com card comes with the TCPIP package. I called 3com, and they told me that the os2 NDIS driver they have has bugs, and they will have a fixed version later this week or next week. (the 3com people were very helpful and honest). Looking over my mail, I see that many of you are currently using 3c589's under warp. How do you do it? Please be detailed, as I am rather weak on this network stuff, and the architecture of os2 is rather mysterious to a dos person. Since installing TCPIP for os2, I have gotten an error on boot which is something like: SYS1201: Device driver D:\tcpip\bin\vdostcp.vdd specified...on line 101 was not installed. Line 101 ignored. D:\tcpip\bin\vdostcp.vdd does exist on my hard disk, and the paths match in the config.sys command. The DEVICE=...vdostcp.vdd occurs only once in the config.sys file. The question is, why doesn't this vdd install? I have not yet downloaded the revised pcmcia.sys and icrmu01.sys files as suggested by Chris Hanson. I assume that this fixes an unrelated problem, which I will encounter as soon as I get all the other pieces in order. Thanks in advance for your help. ------------------------------------------------------------ Victor Kress Carnegie Institution of Washington, Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 ------------------------------------------------------------ From ???@??? Tue Jan 03 01:32:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26667 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 2 Jan 1995 23:52:11 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13057; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 23:46:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 23:46:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from post.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13043; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 23:46:14 -0500 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id ab03518; 3 Jan 95 4:44 GMT From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: CC Ethernet on 755 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 95 13:39:52 GMT Message-Id: <9501021339.aa24371@hipass.filct.com> Santa kindly upgraded my 750 to a 755 this Xmas, but I can't get the Credit Card Ethernet adapter to work. Anyone done this? I have the V1.24 drivers diskette - perhaps there's a later one somewhere? Thanks Mike From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:55:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27879 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 Jan 1995 07:10:14 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02846; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 04:28:05 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 04:28:03 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ux3.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02836; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 04:28:01 -0500 Received: from ruger-43.slip.uiuc.edu by ux3.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25235 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 Jan 1995 02:51:14 -0600 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 02:51:14 -0600 Message-Id: <199501030851.AA25235@ux3.cso.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: Archieves >Being a new subscriber to this list, I would be interested in reviewing >back e-mail messages. > >Are they listed/maintained somewhere. and method of obtaining. This is something that's been a bit of a problem here. I do have nearly all the messages archived, but we haven't found a home for them yet. A number of people have some stuff in the works (incl. me) but we have yet to produce anything. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:55:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24055 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 Jan 1995 19:59:16 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02676; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 19:17:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 19:17:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from RASAM.NDIM.EDRC.CMU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02665; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 19:17:03 -0500 Received: by RASAM.NDIM.EDRC.CMU.EDU id aa08943; 3 Jan 95 19:16 EST Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.rasam.ndim.edrc.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.rasam.ndim.edrc.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 17:09:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 17:09:55 -0500 (EST) From: Robert.Patrick@cs.cmu.edu To: outnews+netnews.comp.os.linux.hardware@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: 2.88 Meg Floppy Woes Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU References: Distribution: usa Sender: rp2y@RASAM.NDIM.EDRC.CMU.EDU We are running Linux on an IBM ThinkPad 750Cs with a 2.88 Meg floppy drive. I had no problem getting the machine to boot the Linux Slackware 2.1 kernel (1.1.59) and installing all 75 (or so) diskettes via the setup program. However, when I try to use the floppy drive to move other files onto the machine (such as the PCMCIA drivers for the modem and ethernet card), I cannot get the floppy drive to work properly. I have tried putting the files on a DOS diskette and using mcopy, but I get disk I/O errors. I also tried using "mount" but the kernel loses its sanity when I try to copy files to the floppy (either it says the file system is read-only or that /dev/fd0 is not a valid mount point). Does anyone have a clue as to how to fix this problem? It appears to be something wrong with the driver for the 2.88 drive since our old version of Linux which used a hacked floppy driver which told the kernel that the 2.88 Meg drive was really a 1.44 Meg drive did not suffer from these problems. Robert From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:55:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24063 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 Jan 1995 19:59:30 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19035; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 15:31:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 15:31:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19019; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 15:31:44 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA11274; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:25:14 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id KAA27501; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:25:01 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199501031825.KAA27501@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: QUES: Imigosh! A MAC!!! To: rogjd@netcom.com (Roger Buffington) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:25:00 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Roger Buffington" at Jan 3, 95 10:05:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > It's true that the number of OS/2 native apps is disappointing. However, > the picture is perhaps not **quite** as bleak as you paint it. There are > any number of excellent terminal programs native to OS/2, for example. > And there are two very good wordprocessors: Ami Pro and DeScribe (I use > and recommend the latter). As a very long-time Ami Pro user (and Ami Pro is not on the Mac), I would have to agree with you on this point. Nevertheless, *neither* of these are considered "mainstream" word processors. > Lotus is committed to 123-for-OS/2, so an > excellent spreadsheet is also available. Personally, I haven't found 1-2-3 to be worth using. I far prefer Excel--and Excel has largely supplanted the 1-2-3 strangehold on the market. Of course, you'll never see another OS/2-based Excel... If I'm not mistaken, Excel has outsold the 1-2-3 juggernaut for about 2 years now. It is clearly the new spreadsheet standard (and with good reason, IMO--it's *very* good). > I find that I rarely use > Windows apps any more due to the foregoing; about the only ones I use are > the Lotus Organizer and a legal program which is only available in a > Windows version (Lexus for Windows.) Perhaps that tells the entire story right there--you mention a particular program that is "only available in a windows version". The real story out there is that nearly *everything* is available in a Windows (or even Windows-only) version, while OS/2-native stuff gets stuck sucking the hind teat--if any teat at all. Excepting Lotus, I don't see much of *any* "major" software player on the OS/2 platform--in fact, I see most of them have jumped off (by the way--is Corel still releasing DRAW! for native OS/2? Its at version 5.0 now--do that have an OS/2-native at that version?), whether it is Microsoft (of course, we know why...), WordPerfect, Aldus...it seems the major players--even the ones who developed for OS/2 early on--have abandoned it. This simply speaks *doom* for OS/2's market viability. It will either disappear (and that's a shame) or forever remain a narrow niche-player for people with highly-specialized needs (namely the programmer who finds its multi-tasking and cross-operating-system capability very useful). ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:55:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00864 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:57:09 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08814; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:48:43 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:48:41 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from seawifs.gsfc.nasa.gov by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08804; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:48:39 -0500 Received: from breezy.gsfc.nasa.gov by seawifs.gsfc.nasa.gov via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU id AA04598; Tue, 3 Jan 95 19:58:53 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 95 19:58:53 -0500 Message-Id: <9501040058.AA04598@seawifs.gsfc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: kirk@seawifs X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP From: kirk@seawifs.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert Kirk) Subject: Re: QUES: Imigosh! A MAC!!! At 10:05 AM 1/3/95 -0800, Roger Buffington wrote: >It's true that the number of OS/2 native apps is disappointing. However, >the picture is perhaps not **quite** as bleak as you paint it. There are >any number of excellent terminal programs native to OS/2, for example. >And there are two very good wordprocessors: Ami Pro and DeScribe (I use >and recommend the latter). Lotus is committed to 123-for-OS/2, so an >excellent spreadsheet is also available. I find that I rarely use >Windows apps any more due to the foregoing; about the only ones I use are >the Lotus Organizer and a legal program which is only available in a >Windows version (Lexus for Windows.) > >BTW, Warp's interface is even nicer than OS/2 2.1's desktop. > >Later. > > rogjd@netcom.com > Glendale, CA > AB6WR How 'bout a newsreader and mailreader native to OS/2? FTP software makes a Pctcp interface,but the best overlays to read news & mail are windows applications; like the Eudora I'm using now or Mosaic/Netscape. Any equivalents in OS/2 land? They'd make me move since I agree about the good WP and spreadsheets available. Bob Kirk N3OZB From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:55:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06083 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 Jan 1995 21:45:12 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09269; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 13:06:50 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 13:06:49 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom8.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09249; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 13:06:45 -0500 Received: by netcom8.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id KAA17896; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:05:52 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:05:51 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Buffington Subject: Re: QUES: Imigosh! A MAC!!! To: Randal Whittle Cc: Ron Heiby , TP In-Reply-To: <199501022017.MAA14700@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It's true that the number of OS/2 native apps is disappointing. However, the picture is perhaps not **quite** as bleak as you paint it. There are any number of excellent terminal programs native to OS/2, for example. And there are two very good wordprocessors: Ami Pro and DeScribe (I use and recommend the latter). Lotus is committed to 123-for-OS/2, so an excellent spreadsheet is also available. I find that I rarely use Windows apps any more due to the foregoing; about the only ones I use are the Lotus Organizer and a legal program which is only available in a Windows version (Lexus for Windows.) BTW, Warp's interface is even nicer than OS/2 2.1's desktop. Later. rogjd@netcom.com Glendale, CA AB6WR From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:55:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14169 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 Jan 1995 23:03:33 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19377; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 23:16:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 23:16:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kitten.mcs.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19364; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 23:16:23 -0500 Received: from mercury.mcs.com (root@Mercury.mcs.com [192.160.127.80]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA15904 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:16:21 -0600 Received: by mercury.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Tue, 3 Jan 95 22:16 CST Received: by falkor.chi.il.us (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Tue, 03 Jan 95 22:13:15 CST for tp750@cs.utk.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: QUES: Imigosh! A MAC!!! From: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us (Ron Heiby) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 03 Jan 95 22:11:26 CST In-Reply-To: <9501040058.AA04598@seawifs.gsfc.nasa.gov> Organization: DML, Inc., Buffalo Grove, IL OS/2 Warp's Bonus Pack includes mail and news readers. I've played a bit with the mail reader with IBM's Advantis system, and it seems ok -- possibly better than the last version of Elm I used (nearly two years ago). But, I have no point of comparison with other PC Email software. I have not yet tried the news reader, so can't comment on its quality or flexibility. Perhaps someone else can? Ron. From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:55:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16451 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 Jan 1995 23:26:58 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20221; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 23:28:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 23:28:19 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20201; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 23:27:59 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id SAA03858; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 18:24:08 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id SAA02559; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 18:24:07 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199501040224.SAA02559@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: OS/2 vs. Windows To: moore@CS.UTK.EDU (Keith Moore) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 18:24:06 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199501032116.QAA13858@wilma.cs.utk.edu> from "Keith Moore" at Jan 3, 95 04:14:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > As I've stated before, I see no point > > at all to having OS/2 on my machine just so I can run Windows-based > > applications. That's just dumb. > > I'm not sure it is so dumb after all. Just because most X86 > applications use the Windows ABI, doesn't mean that the Microsoft > implementation of that ABI is the one that works best. If OS/2 runs > Windows apps better than Windows does, why not use it? But it doesn't! You can't look at these things in a vacuum. Unless you have a compelling need to have pre-emptive multitasking, OS/2 really doesn't offer any advantage at all (if you are running Win apps). You can hardly get a 24-bit color (accelerated) video driver, it didn't know what to do with my SyQuest removable drive, I couldn't get a driver for my HP ScanJet IIc...and it ran my Windows apps still slower than they ran under plain-wrap Windows (OS/2 1.3, 2.0, 2.1) (doubly-so without the accelerated video). Now how useful is this really? Perhaps Warp/3.0 has rectified some of these problems--but who cares? It still does little or nothing more for me than Windows ever did, and for a lot more headaches to go through it all over again. The reason I had an interest in the Mac is to make my life a little simpler--OS/2 just makes it still more complicated as a I go through endless searches for patches, fixes, and drivers hidden somewhere out there in a world that is *owned* by Microsoft. I don't intend to sound nasty, but is OS/2 going to spend the rest of its existence running apps intended for other people's operating systems? If so, that's pretty sad--and says a lot about where OS/2 is going (or *not* going, as the case may be). It needs a killer app--if it doesn't get one, it's going to be yet another operating system that never really went anywhere, but inspired a very loyal following (does the word "Amiga" mean anything to anybody? Apparently even the Video Toaster wasn't enough to save it). Now perhaps a PowerPC version will give OS/2 new life (whenever the heck IBM and the boys ever get a non-Mac PowerPC machine out--apparently Motorola has done it--but it's not running OS/2, but rather Windows NT). But from the looks of things, AIX will have a better chance of taking over the future desktop market (with PPC) than OS/2 will. ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:56:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16871 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 Jan 1995 06:26:04 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20567; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 06:41:57 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 06:41:56 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from post.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20557; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 06:41:52 -0500 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id ab26665; 4 Jan 95 11:41 GMT From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: QUES: Imigosh! A MAC!!! Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 10:33:16 GMT Message-Id: <9501041033.aa02385@hipass.filct.com> I have not yet tried the news reader, so can't comment on its quality or flexibility. Perhaps someone else can? It's not bad. However, the version that came with IBM's tcp/ip was capable of fetching articles from one group while still loading headers from others. The version with Warp doesn't seem to do both at once, which can slow things down considerably. Unless I've missed something. Mike From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:56:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07716 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 Jan 1995 10:24:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04805; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 10:12:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 10:12:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom17.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04793; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 10:12:34 -0500 Received: by netcom17.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id HAA13700; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 07:11:50 -0800 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 07:11:49 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Buffington Subject: Re: QUES: Imigosh! A MAC!!! To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP In-Reply-To: <199501031825.KAA27501@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII rogjd@netcom.com Glendale, CA AB6WR On Tue, 3 Jan 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > > > Lotus is committed to 123-for-OS/2, so an > > excellent spreadsheet is also available. > > Personally, I haven't found 1-2-3 to be worth using. I far prefer > Excel--and Excel has largely supplanted the 1-2-3 strangehold on the > market. Of course, you'll never see another OS/2-based Excel... > > If I'm not mistaken, Excel has outsold the 1-2-3 juggernaut for > about 2 years now. It is clearly the new spreadsheet standard (and with > good reason, IMO--it's *very* good). > I believe that you are, in fact, mistaken, if I remember a recent WSJ article. And I can assure you that 123 is still far and away the dominant spreadsheet used by corporations. Just look at any LA times want add section, and you will see "Lotus 123 proficiency required" ten times more often than any mention of excel. > > Windows version (Lexus for Windows.) > > Perhaps that tells the entire story right there--you mention a > particular program that is "only available in a windows version". The > real story out there is that nearly *everything* is available in a > Windows (or even Windows-only) version, while OS/2-native stuff gets stuck > sucking the hind teat--if any teat at all. > No argument that there are more Windows apps. It is still basically a 16-bit world out there. But the PC community is becoming increasingly aware that the Windows paradigm is getting long in the tooth. OS/2 **is** better. But, just as was true in the case of Windows, when it supplanted DOS, getting the whole world to switch is a gigantic undertaking. And remember, there **are** millions of OS/2 users. > Excepting Lotus, I don't see much of *any* "major" software player > on the OS/2 platform--in fact, I see most of them have jumped off (by the > way--is Corel still releasing DRAW! for native OS/2? Its at version 5.0 > now--do that have an OS/2-native at that version?), whether it is > Microsoft (of course, we know why...), WordPerfect, Aldus...it seems > the major players--even the ones who developed for OS/2 early on--have > abandoned it. This simply speaks *doom* for OS/2's market viability. > It will either disappear (and that's a shame) or forever remain a narrow > niche-player for people with highly-specialized needs (namely the programmer > who finds its multi-tasking and cross-operating-system capability very > useful). > I'm not knowledgeable about CorelDraw, except to note that I have heard references to an upcoming OS/2 version on the OS/2 apps newsgroup. If Microsoft didn't agree with me that the PC community wants a 32 bit OS, it wouldn't be pushing Windows 97 so hard. :-) > ----- ________________________________ > Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | > USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | > (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | > right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | > -------------------------------- > From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:56:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08895 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 Jan 1995 10:30:49 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05014; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 10:14:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 10:14:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom17.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05003; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 10:14:34 -0500 Received: by netcom17.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id HAA13770; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 07:13:49 -0800 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 07:13:48 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Buffington Subject: Re: QUES: Imigosh! A MAC!!! To: Robert Kirk Cc: TP In-Reply-To: <9501040058.AA04598@seawifs.gsfc.nasa.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Actually, OS/2 comes bundled with what has been described as a very good Internet package, including newsgroup reader, etc. I haven't gotten around to test-driving it, however. rogjd@netcom.com Glendale, CA AB6WR > > > > > How 'bout a newsreader and mailreader native to OS/2? > FTP software makes a Pctcp interface,but the best overlays > to read news & mail are windows applications; like the > Eudora I'm using now or Mosaic/Netscape. Any equivalents > in OS/2 land? They'd make me move since I agree about the good > WP and spreadsheets available. > > Bob Kirk > N3OZB > > > From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:56:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22179 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 Jan 1995 11:44:28 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10935; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 11:29:50 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 11:29:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10926; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 11:29:47 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id LAA16028; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 11:27:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199501041627.LAA16028@wilma.cs.utk.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: ADMIN: OS wars Cc: moore@CS.UTK.EDU From: Keith Moore Date: Wed, 04 Jan 1995 11:27:08 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU This is meant to be a gentle reminder. The people who have subscribed to the tp750 list have done so because they are interested in discussion related to tp750 and similar laptop computers. While discussion of various PC operating systems (especially things like how well they work on tp750s or how well they support power management, pcmcia, etc.) seems relevant, prolonged discussion of the general merits of these operating systems would seem to be out-of-scope for this group. I therefore request that the 'OS wars' discussion be moved elsewhere. Keith Moore From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:56:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28053 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 Jan 1995 12:14:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14137; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 12:05:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 12:05:28 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14044; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 12:05:09 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA29834; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 09:05:02 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id JAA04245; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 09:05:00 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199501041705.JAA04245@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: QUES: Imigosh! A MAC!!! To: rogjd@netcom.com (Roger Buffington) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 09:04:59 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Roger Buffington" at Jan 4, 95 07:11:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > If I'm not mistaken, Excel has outsold the 1-2-3 juggernaut for > > about 2 years now. It is clearly the new spreadsheet standard (and with > > good reason, IMO--it's *very* good). > > > I believe that you are, in fact, mistaken, if I remember a recent WSJ > article. And I can assure you that 123 is still far and away the > dominant spreadsheet used by corporations. Just look at any LA times > want add section, and you will see "Lotus 123 proficiency required" ten > times more often than any mention of excel. Re-read that stuff above, Roger--"Lotus 123 proficiency required" is an anachronism. It means they're still running 286's. It means they haven't upgraded software in the past 5 years or more. They probably use WordPerfect 5.0 too. The point was that *sales* in the last 2 years or more, of Excel, have significantly out-stripped sales of 1-2-3. That means anyone buying *new* spreadsheets *now* is far more likely to buy Excel than 1-2-3. Now if the installed base of 1-2-3 is greater than Excel, that's a blast >from the past, but the future looks like it belongs to Excel. Any company that I have been to/visited, etc. that is *remotely* caught up with technology is using Excel. Some of the long-entrenched types (namely Banks) will probably use 1-2-3 forever, just like attorneys will be using WordPerfect 5.1 forever (even though WP has had newer versions out for nearly 2 years now). Reason? They haven't a need to upgrade or switch. Their needs are suited fine on a 286. That's why 1-2-3 is still very popular with them-- they are still using version 2.x. The bad news is that fact isn't going to help OS/2 users any, because those same people have to upgrade their computers to make any use of OS/2 (or Windows--but as I said--they're entrenched). > > Perhaps that tells the entire story right there--you mention a > > particular program that is "only available in a windows version". The > > real story out there is that nearly *everything* is available in a > > Windows (or even Windows-only) version, while OS/2-native stuff gets stuck > > sucking the hind teat--if any teat at all. > > > No argument that there are more Windows apps. It is still basically a > 16-bit world out there. But the PC community is becoming increasingly > aware that the Windows paradigm is getting long in the tooth. OS/2 > **is** better. But, just as was true in the case of Windows, when it > supplanted DOS, getting the whole world to switch is a gigantic > undertaking. And remember, there **are** millions of OS/2 users. Sure! And those OS/2 users are still waiting for apps... I'm convinced that 90% of the people who use OS/2 are either programmers who *have* to have pre-emptive multitasking (and of course it excels very well in that area) above all else or religious zealouts like my brother whose very existence depends on its success. While 16-bit Windows apps are long in the tooth, at least they *exist*! What good are 32-bit apps for OS/2 that don't exist? An Operating System is not an island unto itself. The whole idea in including DOS & Windows "runnability" in OS/2 was to give users a transition--a way to run their current stuff as they upgrade to OS/2 versions of their software. But the problem with that strategy is that in nearly all cases, those users don't have an OS/2 version of their software to upgrade *to*. > > Excepting Lotus, I don't see much of *any* "major" software player > > on the OS/2 platform--in fact, I see most of them have jumped off (by the > > way--is Corel still releasing DRAW! for native OS/2? Its at version 5.0 > > now--do that have an OS/2-native at that version?), whether it is > > Microsoft (of course, we know why...), WordPerfect, Aldus...it seems > > the major players--even the ones who developed for OS/2 early on--have > > abandoned it. This simply speaks *doom* for OS/2's market viability. > > It will either disappear (and that's a shame) or forever remain a narrow > > niche-player for people with highly-specialized needs (namely the programm > > who finds its multi-tasking and cross-operating-system capability very > > useful). > > > > I'm not knowledgeable about CorelDraw, except to note that I have heard > references to an upcoming OS/2 version on the OS/2 apps newsgroup. Corel released a version of Draw! about the same time OS/2 2.0 was released--it was a big help for OS/2 at the time. I'm just curious about whether Corel has kept up with OS/2 (the Windows version has gone through at least 2 versions since then--maybe 3) or abandoned it just like Aldus, WordPerfect, and others... Oh yes, I forgot to include the fact that last year at Comdex '93, Phillipe Kahn at Borland pledged support for OS/2...of course Borland practically doesn't exist anymore (weren't they swallowed up by WordPerfect/Novell?). > If Microsoft didn't agree with me that the PC community wants a 32 bit > OS, it wouldn't be pushing Windows 97 so hard. :-) MS obviously agrees. The only modifier I would have to add is that the PC community doesn't just want a 32-bit OS on their machine, but they also want 32-bit *applications* to run on it! For all their foibles, MS did one thing *very* right--and that was to negotiate with many of the existing software publishers to see to it that Windows 3.0 was supported with some fairly significant apps (not to mention their own Excel and Word). Once they got big enough, some more "biggies" like WordPerfect and Lotus followed, to avoid missing out. People moved to Windows from DOS because they could see the relatively obvious benefits of a GUI and it was relatively painless and cheap--after all, if you don't like it, exit it! You're back in DOS. Sure, it was a terrible kludge, but it was a relatively painless one--*nothing* like installing a whole new operating system and then having almost *no* way of going back. It gave people the opportunity to try it, quit, and try it again--without making a major commitment. It wasn't good technology, but it was marketing *genius*. It gave people training wheels and a few years to get used to it, then it moves them into the proper way of doing it with a "real" operating system. OS/2 missed out because in its first outing, the "DOS Compatibility Box" wasn't very "DOS Compatible" and the package cost an arm and a leg (of course, MS was involved in its development at the time, so one cannot simply blame IBM). By the time 2.0 came out with its vast improvements, it was too little, too late--Windows 3.0 was firmly entrenched and a month after OS/2 2.0 came out, Win 3.1 arrived to solidify its position. OS/2's timing was off. Now, if someone wanted a GUI on their PC, "Windows" was the obvious answer. Perhaps IBM could have done better by getting Mfgrs. to ship with OS/2 on their machines, but they didn't. Basically, MS did all their marketing *right* and they did it sooner--and IBM didn't. Whenever MS finally gets it out the door, rest assured that developers *will* indeed follow. Until OS/2 can make such a claim, then it will forever remain in the niche I previously described. ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:56:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28981 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 Jan 1995 17:56:44 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12987; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 17:52:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 17:52:56 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12974; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 17:52:54 -0500 Received: by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06118; Wed, 4 Jan 95 14:53:02 PST Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 14:53:02 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9501042253.AA06118@cs.nps.navy.mil> To: mike@filct.com Subject: Re: CC Ethernet on 755 In-Reply-To: Mail from '"Mike O'Carroll" ' dated: Mon, 2 Jan 95 13:39:52 GMT Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > Santa kindly upgraded my 750 to a 755 this Xmas, but I can't get the > Credit Card Ethernet adapter to work. Anyone done this? > > I have the V1.24 drivers diskette - perhaps there's a later one > somewhere? Mike, I had serious problems with the IBM PCMCIA Ethernet card until I downloaded the most recent version of the driver -- version 2.03. The diskettes shipped with my 755 were far out of date. The IBM BBS : (919) 517-0001 Hope that helps! Robert -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | A designer knows when he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:56:19 1995 Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu (kleph.ai.mit.edu) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10889 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 5 Jan 1995 00:33:55 -0600 Message-Id: <199501050633.AA10889@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06878; Thu, 5 Jan 95 01:34:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 01:34:03 -0500 From: Chris Hanson To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199501030851.AA25235@ux3.cso.uiuc.edu> (ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) Subject: Re: Archieves Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 02:51:14 -0600 From: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) >Being a new subscriber to this list, I would be interested in reviewing >back e-mail messages. > >Are they listed/maintained somewhere. and method of obtaining. This is something that's been a bit of a problem here. I do have nearly all the messages archived, but we haven't found a home for them yet. A number of people have some stuff in the works (incl. me) but we have yet to produce anything. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 I'm not sure exactly what you mean here, but if it would be useful to have an FTP site for distributing the mailing-list archives, I can offer one. We have plenty of disk space, a fast HP workstation, and a high-bandwidth connection to the internet. From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:56:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14098 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:25:23 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11684; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:34:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:34:14 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11674; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:34:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199501050634.BAA11674@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06878; Thu, 5 Jan 95 01:34:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 01:34:03 -0500 From: Chris Hanson To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199501030851.AA25235@ux3.cso.uiuc.edu> (ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) Subject: Re: Archieves Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 02:51:14 -0600 From: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) >Being a new subscriber to this list, I would be interested in reviewing >back e-mail messages. > >Are they listed/maintained somewhere. and method of obtaining. This is something that's been a bit of a problem here. I do have nearly all the messages archived, but we haven't found a home for them yet. A number of people have some stuff in the works (incl. me) but we have yet to produce anything. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 I'm not sure exactly what you mean here, but if it would be useful to have an FTP site for distributing the mailing-list archives, I can offer one. We have plenty of disk space, a fast HP workstation, and a high-bandwidth connection to the internet. From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:56:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16165 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 5 Jan 1995 02:21:42 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14709; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 02:22:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 02:22:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14699; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 02:22:37 -0500 Received: from lochness.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17715; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:22:03 -0600 Received: from gudstra.uhc.com by lochness.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA102568; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:22:03 -0600 Message-Id: <9501050722.AA102568@lochness.uhc.com> X-Sender: gbu@lochness.uhc.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 01:22:39 -0600 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: gbu@uhc.com (Gary Udstrand) Subject: 32 bit access and the 810 HD I have tried to enable the 32 bit access under windows but I get an error when I try to load windows. I have an 810MB HD that is partitioned into a 400 and a 372 MB volumes. I seem to recall something about sector size being a problem, could someone tell me what I need to do to get this to work. _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ Gary Udstrand _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ AT&T: (612) 945-6523 Advanced Technology _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ Fax: (612) 945-6502 United HealthCare _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ EMail: gbu@uhc.com _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ "The truly great things happen when a genius is alone. This is true especially among golfers." -J. R. Coulson From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:56:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01394 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 5 Jan 1995 15:12:14 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12168; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 14:59:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 14:59:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12158; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 14:59:15 -0500 Received: by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05868; Thu, 5 Jan 95 11:59:51 PST Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 11:59:51 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9501051959.AA05868@cs.nps.navy.mil> To: gbu@uhc.com Subject: Re: 32 bit access and the 810 HD In-Reply-To: Mail from 'gbu@uhc.com (Gary Udstrand)' dated: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 01:22:39 -0600 Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > I have tried to enable the 32 bit access under windows but I get an error > when I try to load windows. I have an 810MB HD that is partitioned into a > 400 and a 372 MB volumes. I seem to recall something about sector size > being a problem, could someone tell me what I need to do to get this to work. Gary, I went through this headache back in August. The Western Digital drivers which provide the 32-bit disk access were written before enhanced IDE, but you need EIDE to support hard drives with capacities greater that ~520MB. The only way I was able to get 32-bit disk access to work with EIDE dives on the ThinkPad was to get the *old* "FASTDISK" drivers from Western Digital. The new FASTDISK drivers _only_ support Western Digital drives like the Caviar. The old FASTDISK drivers are available at cica, and replace the wdctrl.386 driver in Windows which supplies the 32-bit disk access. BTW, 32-bit disk access turns out not to be a big performance advantage. Here's an excerpt from a conversation with Western Digital tech support: "RJ Smith, Western Digital" writes: >> [...] So my question is do I get any advantages from the Fastdisk divers?r > >The WD FastDisk WDCDRV.386 was designed to circumvent the WDCTRL >limitation of 1,023 cylinders. WDCDRV.386, like WDCTRL, provides >only a modest increase in performance over the BIOS Int 13h code: >about 6%. > >Using WDCDRV.386 on any drive with less than 1,023 cylinders is >not necessary. Robert -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | A designer knows when he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:56:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10547 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 5 Jan 1995 23:55:30 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18697; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 00:02:28 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 00:02:27 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cscgpo.anu.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18684; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 00:02:24 -0500 Received: from huxley.anu.edu.au (huxley.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.12]) by cscgpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA05972; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 16:02:12 +1100 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by huxley.anu.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA16513; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 16:02:18 +1100 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 16:02:18 +1100 Message-Id: <199501060502.QAA16513@huxley.anu.edu.au> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: tp755ce+dos+win3.11+winNT3.5+linux+[???]+nec3x-pCDROM i am planning on getting a tp755ce, for research work. it comes with dos and windows (3.11), which i will use for wordprocessing, sas, and a few other programs not otherwise available. i would like to add windows NT 3.5 to eventually port a silicon graphics program to opengl using NT, and i would also like to add linux for all the unix tools and for plugging into an ethernet connection at work (e.g. for backups to our silo drive). as i have to take my research environment with me when i visit colleagues for collaborative work, i would like to get also the NEC multispin 3x-p (portable) cd-rom drive. question(s) #1: is it feasible to use a scsi pcmcia card via windows 3.11 to access the cd-rom drive (i asssume there is a driver), including what comes with the NT cd-roms (as i understand it, NT does not support pcmcia cards)? if so, recommended scsi pcmcia cards? would i lose any functionality compared to, say, a non-notebook pc with an internal or external cd-rom drive? (would it be better to try to find some parallel scsi adapter that NT might support?) question(s) #2: any thoughts, wisdom regarding setting up multiple operating systems on a notebook hard disk? any experience with the combination above? e.g., what kind of file system would work, be best? thanks in advance for any suggestions. regards, al Alden S. Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology, Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:56:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12206 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 6 Jan 1995 05:44:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03124; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 04:04:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 04:04:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03109; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 04:04:40 -0500 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 10:03:58 +0100 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Fri, 6 Jan 95 10:03:56 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 10:03:56 +0100 Message-Id: <9501060903.AA28679@octave.chorus.fr> To: Robert.Patrick@cs.cmu.edu, outnews+netnews.comp.os.linux.hardware@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: 2.88 Meg Floppy Woes Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU > > We are running Linux on an IBM ThinkPad 750Cs with a 2.88 Meg floppy > drive. I had no problem getting the machine to boot the Linux Slackware > 2.1 kernel (1.1.59) and installing all 75 (or so) diskettes via the > setup program. > > However, when I try to use the floppy drive to move other files onto the > machine (such as the PCMCIA drivers for the modem and ethernet card), I > cannot get the floppy drive to work properly. I have tried putting the > files on a DOS diskette and using mcopy, but I get disk I/O errors. I > also tried using "mount" but the kernel loses its sanity when I try to > copy files to the floppy (either it says the file system is read-only or > that /dev/fd0 is not a valid mount point). > > Does anyone have a clue as to how to fix this problem? It appears to be > something wrong with the driver for the 2.88 drive since our old version > of Linux which used a hacked floppy driver which told the kernel that > the 2.88 Meg drive was really a 1.44 Meg drive did not suffer from these > problems. > Hello Robert, IN fact, you can't run the vanilla slackware boot disks on 750 without a especially patched kernel version. Such a bootable disk is available on the net. I recommend you to read the html page from Ian Jackson at http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/html/linux-thinkpad.html and retrieved the boot disks from there. Best regards, -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:56:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13622 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 6 Jan 1995 13:32:20 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17250; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 13:14:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 13:14:07 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from simeon.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17231; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 13:14:04 -0500 Received: by simeon.mit.edu (5.57/DA1.0.4.amt) id AA15970; Fri, 6 Jan 95 13:12:37 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 13:12:37 -0500 From: John Otto Message-Id: <9501061812.AA15970@simeon.mit.edu> To: Robert.Patrick@cs.cmu.edu, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 2.88 Meg Floppy Woes Cc: jo@simeon.mit.edu Robert, I recently upgraded my kernel to 1.1.59 and everything seemed to work "right out of the box" except for the floppy drive. To get the floppy drive to work I changed one line of the driver floppy.c before compiling the new kernel. The old and new lines are given below and are located around line 500 of the code in the routine static int disk_change(int drive). /* * changed next line for TP750 * old line: * if(inb_p(FD_DIR) & 0x80){ */ if(!(inb_p(FD_DIR)) & 0x80){ This seems to have done the trick although I have not tested it too thoroughly. If anyone has any other suggestions or corrections please enlighten me. Hope this helps. John Otto jo@simeon.mit.edu From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:56:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04906 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 6 Jan 1995 15:10:08 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12307; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 14:44:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 14:44:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12280; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 14:44:30 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rQKa8-0004tgC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 13:44 CST Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rQKa7-0002nbC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 13:44 CST Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQKa6-0002wvC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 13:44 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Warp Mouse Tracking Speed (also OS/2 v2.1) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 13:44:14 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI, Rodent.sys v1.0 has an option to increase the gain of the mouse. Thus it would appear that this driver will allow all sessions (os/2, dos and windows) to enjoy dos/windows like tracking speed. I tested this on a desktop system today. Someone will have to try this on a thinkpad. The driver can be found on ftp.leo.org. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:56:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04958 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 6 Jan 1995 17:33:42 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08858; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 17:22:51 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 17:22:49 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08821; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 17:22:43 -0500 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA02554; Fri, 6 Jan 95 15:21:57 MST Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 15:21:57 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9501062221.AA02554@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp Mouse Tracking Speed (also OS/2 v2.1) On Friday, Jan 6 1994, Scott A. Stratmoen (strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com) wrote: > Rodent.sys v1.0 has an option to increase the gain of the mouse. Thus > it would appear that this driver will allow all sessions (os/2, dos and > windows) to enjoy dos/windows like tracking speed. > I tested this on a desktop system today. Someone will have to try this > on a thinkpad. The driver can be found on ftp.leo.org. I tried it on my TP a couple days ago. It died a quick death. To put it bluntly, RODENT.SYS sucks when used with a TrackPoint. Even with the "response" switch maxed out at 8, the tracking speed does not change until the pointer is about halfway across the screen. Once there, it takes off so fast that you can't even see it. As a result, I kept overshooting everything because there's no transition between slow and fast. It's like riding in a car with my Mom: there are only two accelerator pedal positions - on and off. For me, at least, this thing is not the answer. I have contacted someone at IBM about alternative mouse drivers, and I'm hoping to hear from them soon. If led to the Holy Grail, I'll be sure to post to the mailing list with specifics... -key _________________________________________________________________ Karl E. Yeanoplos | kyeanopl@den.mmc.com Martin Marietta Corp. | P.O. Box 179/M.S. 5451 | Compuserve: 73741,453 Denver, CO. 80201 | From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 00:56:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25822 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 6 Jan 1995 20:43:09 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09523; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 20:54:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 20:54:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09513; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 20:54:06 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rQQK7-0004tkC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 19:52 CST Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rQQK6-0002nbC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 19:52 CST Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQQJx-000BgkC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 19:51 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Warp Mouse Tracking Speed (also OS/2 v2.1) To: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 19:51:56 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9501062221.AA02554@amazon.den.mmc.com> from "Karl Yeanoplos" at Jan 6, 95 03:21:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I tried it on my TP a couple days ago. It died a quick death. > To put it bluntly, RODENT.SYS sucks when used with a TrackPoint. > > Even with the "response" switch maxed out at 8, the tracking speed does not > change until the pointer is about halfway across the screen. Once there, > it takes off so fast that you can't even see it. As a result, I kept > overshooting everything because there's no transition between slow and > fast. It's like riding in a car with my Mom: there are only two > accelerator pedal positions - on and off. For me, at least, this thing > is not the answer. Did you define the mouse in the rodent.sys line? I don't think that the driver can identify the mouse protocol under all cases. With a Microsoft PS/2 mouse I was able to set response to eight and obtain smooth movement. (An inch of mouse movement was sufficient to drive the cursor from corner to corner of the screen.) FYI, When the mouse jumps, it's the acceleration profile of mouse.sys coming into play. I too called IBM and asked about the mouse, Crystal Semiconductor drivers and DOCK II problems. Mike Anderson called me back and said they know about these issues. He didn't say if and when they would be resolved. From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 17:13:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09482 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 7 Jan 1995 05:39:18 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA15401; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 05:58:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 05:58:12 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ux3.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA15390; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 05:58:11 -0500 Received: from ruger-55.slip.uiuc.edu by ux3.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14933 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 7 Jan 1995 04:57:16 -0600 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 04:57:16 -0600 Message-Id: <199501071057.AA14933@ux3.cso.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: ADMIN: subject headings Please check your subject heading before sending your message out. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Sat Jan 07 17:13:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00829 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 7 Jan 1995 12:22:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06865; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 12:45:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 12:45:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rigel by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06849; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 12:45:40 -0500 Received: from leonardo.lmt.com by rigel with SMTP id AA01551 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 7 Jan 1995 11:49:45 -0600 Received: from LEONARDO/SMTPQUEUE by leonardo.lmt.com (Mercury 1.13); Sat, 7 Jan 95 11:49:32 GMT-6 Received: from SMTPQUEUE by LEONARDO (Mercury 1.13); Sat, 7 Jan 95 11:48:42 GMT-6 From: "Chris Schumann" Organization: LaserMaster Technologies R&D Divn. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 11:48:40 CST6CDT Subject: I'm back. Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <3ACB8B0223B@leonardo.lmt.com> After getting a new job and moving to another state, I'm back on the mailing. Still have a TP750P with 4MB RAM and puny 170MB hard disk. Sucks to be me. Except for the 14.4 kbaud PCMCIA data/fax modem and Yamaha MIDI tone generator hooked up to it. Now where did i put those spare TrackPoint II eraserheads? --Chris Schumann chrissc@leonardo.lmt.com "What exactly do you do?" -- my Mom From ???@??? Sun Jan 08 15:18:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03569 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 7 Jan 1995 22:13:43 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08069; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 22:34:35 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 22:34:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08059; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 22:34:32 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rQoOa-0004tkC; Sat, 7 Jan 95 21:34 CST Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rQoOZ-0002nbC; Sat, 7 Jan 95 21:34 CST Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQoOU-000BgjC; Sat, 7 Jan 95 21:34 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: OS/2: Mouse tracking speed To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 21:34:13 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The solution to the mouse tracking speed problems with the 75x series systems and OS/2 is as follows! 1) Get a copy of Rodent v1.00. 2) Modify your config.sys to look something like the following, DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\POINTDD.SYS DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\RODENT.SYS RESPONSE=2 DPI=640 MOUSE=PS RATE=20 DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\MOUSE.SYS TYPE=RODENT$ REM DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\MOUSE.SYS 3) Tune the rate, dpi and response switches to suit your tastes. 4) Send money to the author of Rodent. 5) Send thanks to me for finding a solution ;-). FYI, You may want to tune the tracking speed in windows via the normal Windows method. You need at least version 1.00 of Rodent. If you find a later version please tell me where you located it. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Sun Jan 08 15:18:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04093 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 7 Jan 1995 22:18:13 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08338; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 22:39:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 22:39:47 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08328; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 22:39:46 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rQoTj-0004tkC; Sat, 7 Jan 95 21:39 CST Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rQoTi-0002nbC; Sat, 7 Jan 95 21:39 CST Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQoTc-000BgjC; Sat, 7 Jan 95 21:39 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: OS/2: Backup To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 21:39:32 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Backup of OS/2 with a 75X and a DockII. I configured gtar and gtak to utilize the SCSI in the dock II and a Archive 2150 tape drive. This combination appears to work just fine. With warp create a util disk and copy the correct drivers onto the disk. The following config.sys is required, buffers=32 iopl=yes memman=noswap protshell=sysinst1.exe set os2_shell=cmd.exe diskcache=64,LW protectonly=yes ifs=hpfs.ifs /c:64 pauseonerror=no codepage=850 devinfo=kbd,us,keyboard.dcp devinfo=scr,ega,vtbl850.dcp set path=a:\ set dpath=a:\ set keys=on basedev=print01.sys basedev=ibmkbd.sys basedev=ibm1flpy.add basedev=ibm1s506.add basedev=ibm2flpy.add basedev=ibm2adsk.add basedev=ibm2scsi.add basedev=ibmint13.i13 BASEDEV=AHA152X.ADD basedev=os2dasd.dmd BASEDEV=SCSITAPE.DMD TAPE$4 4 S0 set tz=cst6cdt set TAPE=scsi:tape$4 -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Sun Jan 08 15:18:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13736 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 8 Jan 1995 00:26:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15496; Sun, 8 Jan 1995 00:44:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 8 Jan 1995 00:44:12 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15487; Sun, 8 Jan 1995 00:44:10 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id AAA04100; Sun, 8 Jan 1995 00:41:39 -0500 Message-Id: <199501080541.AAA04100@wilma.cs.utk.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: HARDWARE: what keyboard works with the Dock I? Cc: moore@CS.UTK.EDU From: Keith Moore Date: Sun, 08 Jan 1995 00:41:32 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU After over a year of owning a Dock I, I'm finally using it for its intended purpose -- as a convenient way to connect my tp750 to an external monitor, ethernet card, mouse, etc. while I'm at home. Now all I need is a keyboard. But every time I've tried to use a keyboard with the Dock 1 it hasn't worked. If anyone has a keyboard working with the Dock 1, could you please tell me exactly what kind (vendor & model #) you are using? Also tell me what kind of thinkpad you have, in case it matters. Keith Moore From ???@??? Sun Jan 08 15:18:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14545 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 8 Jan 1995 00:38:11 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15814; Sun, 8 Jan 1995 00:52:16 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 8 Jan 1995 00:52:14 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15804; Sun, 8 Jan 1995 00:52:11 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rQqXt-0004tkC; Sat, 7 Jan 95 23:52 CST Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rQqXs-0002nbC; Sat, 7 Jan 95 23:52 CST Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQqXm-000BgjC; Sat, 7 Jan 95 23:51 CST Message-Id: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 95 23:51 CST From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Internet Messenger [version 1.0] To: tp750 > > Unless you have a compelling need to have pre-emptive > multitasking, OS/2 really doesn't offer any advantage at all (if you are > running Win apps). > I think this can be answered with one statement. You can print and use the machine for something else at the same time. > You can hardly get a 24-bit color (accelerated) video driver, it > didn't know what to do with my SyQuest removable drive, I couldn't get a > driver for my HP ScanJet IIc...and it ran my Windows apps still slower > than they ran under plain-wrap Windows (OS/2 1.3, 2.0, 2.1) (doubly-so > without the accelerated video). > It's the drivers stupid. I agree with what you said about the drivers, but I don't agree with the speed of Windows apps. They are as fast as 3.11 under WARP. > Perhaps Warp/3.0 has rectified some of these problems--but who > cares? I keep asking myself WHY bother. > It still does little or nothing more for me than Windows ever did, and for > a lot more headaches to go through it all over again. I would like to say that it would crash less than Windows, but I don't have many problem with my 750C's current configuration for DOS/Windows. In fact WARP has crashed and wiped out the disk more than once.... > I don't intend to sound nasty, but is OS/2 going to spend the > rest of its existence running apps intended for other people's operating > systems? Or is it.... It's the applications stupid? In the end the lack of native applications will kill OS/2. It doesn't matter what the overall quality of the product is (or the technology). This sounds like Beta vs VHS all over again. As you can see, I have mixed feelings about OS/2... ____ Scott Stratmoen | strat@dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 ex 4762 ____ Scott Stratmoen | strat@dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 ex 4762 From ???@??? Mon Jan 09 00:39:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18970 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 8 Jan 1995 20:25:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10225; Sun, 8 Jan 1995 20:39:35 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 8 Jan 1995 20:39:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from iss.nus.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10214; Sun, 8 Jan 1995 20:39:29 -0500 Received: from grape.iss.nus.sg by iss.nus.sg (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA04703; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 09:40:13 +0800 From: kcheong@iss.nus.sg (Kevin Cheong) Message-Id: <9501090140.AA04703@iss.nus.sg> Subject: Cat's tongue or the likes.. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 09:40:12 +0800 (SST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi, With all this talk on RODENT.SYS I was wondering whether I could get my hands on some "cat's tongues". {\footnote the new red stuff on the Trackpoints on new TP machines) I asked most, if not all, IBM authorised dealers here in S'pore and they mentioned that if IBM S'pore doesn't sell them they can't get their hands on any. Anyways someone on this list did mention that they could get hold of these "tongues" (I think). Maybe they could part with some for a certain $postage++. Please confirm. ps. any TP + Trackpoint owners in this region interested as well? --cheers . kevin cheong iss nus nlp program . From ???@??? Mon Jan 09 13:26:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06274 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 Jan 1995 03:59:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA09989; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 04:09:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 04:09:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA09979; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 04:09:28 -0500 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 10:09:10 +0100 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Mon, 9 Jan 95 10:09:09 +0100 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 95 10:09:09 +0100 Message-Id: <9501090909.AA09845@octave.chorus.fr> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: First TP360CSE impressions..... Hello, I've just recieved my TP360CSE laptop. It's been quite one month since I ordered it. It is produced in Scotland ! It comes in a rather small box. This is a 4Mo/340Mo configuration. It comes installed with a few software packages. These include: - IBM PC-DOS 6.33 - Windows 3.11 - Lotus Organizer - Lotus CC:mobile mail - Lotus CC:Mail (I have to check that) - Acrobat Reader (??) - Flight Disk - Lotus ScreenCam - CoSession... The first problem is that all this softwares come WITHOUT ANY INSTALLATION DISKS. Not even for DOS nor Windows. There's nothing for Thinkpad and IBM Vesa software also. I called IBM for this because I thought it was a mistake from them. In fact, it seems the French (but also European) are the victims of a marketing decision. Although we are legal users of the software we cannot have the distribution disks without money ! This is really an amazing situation !! Moreover, the Lotus software comes without any documentation but just the licence registration card. I spent part of the week-end backing up my disk on floppies using the only available backup utility (CPBACKUP). There is approximatively 80Mo of software installed, I let you appreciate the number of required floppies !! Apart from this, my impression are rather good on the overall performances of the system. The screen is pleasant although it's only a Double Scan one. I intend the re-partition my disk to install Linux. I will keep a small portion of disk for DOS/Windows. I will perhaps install OS/2 Warp if there is enough room left. Concerning compatibility of Thinkpad with Linux. I installed kernel 1.1.75 on a bootable disk. I configured LILO so as to append the option "floppy=thinkpad". Everything booted nicely and the floppy drive can be accessed with no problem. I also tried to boot *BSD based operating systems. The NetBSD-1.0 bootdisk went through with no problem. I did not go any further with it. The FreeBSD-2.0 floppy went through but there is a problem with the keyboard as reported by someone on some news channel. In any cases, the hard drive was successfully detected and the correct geometry was reported. -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Mon Jan 09 13:25:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29838 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 Jan 1995 01:55:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29197; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 02:11:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 02:11:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ux3.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29186; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 02:11:12 -0500 Received: from colt-33.slip.uiuc.edu by ux3.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26033 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 Jan 1995 01:10:18 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 01:10:18 -0600 Message-Id: <199501090710.AA26033@ux3.cso.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: Cat's tongue or the likes.. > With all this talk on RODENT.SYS I was wondering whether I could > get my hands on some "cat's tongues". {\footnote the new red stuff on I had always wondered if you couldn't just scratch up the tip a bit with an exacto or file it down and put a little abrasive something on it (file it down so it doesn't scratch up the screen!) to make the Trackpoint tip hold better. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Mon Jan 09 13:26:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03421 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 Jan 1995 10:37:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09750; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 09:58:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 09:58:47 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09740; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 09:58:44 -0500 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA03141; Mon, 9 Jan 95 07:58:09 MST Date: Mon, 9 Jan 95 07:58:09 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9501091458.AA03141@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp Mouse Tracking Speed (also OS/2 v2.1) >> I tried it on my TP a couple days ago. It died a quick death. >> To put it bluntly, RODENT.SYS sucks when used with a TrackPoint. > Did you define the mouse in the rodent.sys line? I don't think that the > driver can identify the mouse protocol under all cases. Yes, I defined the mouse as a PS/2 type device. Here is the appropriate line as it appeared in my CONFIG.SYS: DEVICE=D:\OS2\RODENT.SYS MOUSE=PS RESPONSE=8 I suppose one could play with the RATE switch, as the MOUSE=PS protocol defaults to RATE=100, with 200 being the upper limit. If you have any better success than I did, please pass along the secret. -key _________________________________________________________________ Karl E. Yeanoplos | kyeanopl@den.mmc.com Martin Marietta Corp. | P.O. Box 179/M.S. 5451 | Compuserve: 73741,453 Denver, CO. 80201 | From ???@??? Mon Jan 09 20:29:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07801 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 Jan 1995 14:20:40 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02752; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 14:19:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 14:19:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02741; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 14:19:19 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rRPZn-0004tfC; Mon, 9 Jan 95 13:16 CST Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rRPZm-0002nbC; Mon, 9 Jan 95 13:16 CST Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRPZf-0002wvC; Mon, 9 Jan 95 13:16 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: OS/2: Warp mouse driver followup (see I fixed the header!) To: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 13:16:14 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9501091458.AA03141@amazon.den.mmc.com> from "Karl Yeanoplos" at Jan 9, 95 07:58:09 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > If you have any better success than I did, please pass along the secret. See the note which I posted over the weekend. Late on Sunday I found that APM doesn't appear to work properly with rodent.sys. When the system suspends OS/2 crashes. I plan to try moving things around in the config.sys, but I don't expect any improvement. Can anyone else confirm this? -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Mon Jan 09 20:29:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13439 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 Jan 1995 14:38:16 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03801; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 14:31:54 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 14:31:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03791; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 14:31:50 -0500 Received: by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08279; Mon, 9 Jan 95 11:32:38 PST Date: Mon, 9 Jan 95 11:32:38 PST From: george@cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Message-Id: <9501091932.AA08279@cs.nps.navy.mil> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: INTEL P6 Forwarding: Mail from 'more@power.globalnews.com' dated: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 19:15:53 GMT For those of you who were interested in the P6 (next generation Pentium), here is an article from PowerPC News: INTEL P6 WILL HAVE FOUR INTEGER UNITS (January 6th 1995) Intel Corp's forthcoming 6m transistor P6 successor to the Pentium is to have four integer execution units - arithmetic-logic units - compared with two in the Pentium. This will require it to work rather like a chess program, looking many moves ahead and speculatively executing many instructions. Using data flow analysis, it will also look at the code coming into the processor and analyse it to minimise data dependencies. It may also add some instructions to the set in the Pentium. Initially to be clocked at 133MHz, the P6 will not be pin-compatible with the Pentium in its first iteration. It is expected to have a 32kB first-level cache and a 256kB or 512kB second-level cache integrated with the processor. (C) Computergram International | Select 5000 for more information From ???@??? Mon Jan 09 20:29:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18429 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 Jan 1995 18:37:40 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24079; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 18:30:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 18:30:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24054; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 18:30:11 -0500 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id AAA14776 (8.6.9/); Tue, 10 Jan 1995 00:29:59 +0100 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 00:29:59 +0100 Message-Id: <199501092329.AAA14776@asimov.cnam.fr> To: kcheong@iss.nus.sg, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Cat's tongue or the likes.. I want some cat's tongues or other thinkpad caps too.. Edmund. From ???@??? Mon Jan 09 20:29:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00807 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 Jan 1995 19:46:23 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29400; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 19:54:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 19:54:56 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from RASAM.NDIM.EDRC.CMU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29390; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 19:54:55 -0500 Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.rasam.ndim.edrc.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.rasam.ndim.edrc.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 19:54:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 19:54:22 -0500 (EST) From: Robert.Patrick@cs.cmu.edu To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP 750Cs & XF86 3.1 Sender: rp2y@RASAM.NDIM.EDRC.CMU.EDU Does anyone have the new version of XF86 (i.e., X11R6) running on a ThinkPad 750Cs (or something similar)? If so, could you enlighten me on how to get it running (i.e., send me any hacks to the X Server and your Xconfig file)? Thanks, Robert P.S., I tried our old Xconfig file from X11R5 with very poor results. From ???@??? Tue Jan 10 20:10:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13598 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 Jan 1995 20:56:32 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02824; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 20:57:29 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 20:57:27 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02813; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 20:57:25 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rRVpj-0004tfC; Mon, 9 Jan 95 19:57 CST Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rRVpi-0002nbC; Mon, 9 Jan 95 19:57 CST Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRVpc-000BgjC; Mon, 9 Jan 95 19:57 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: OS/2: Mouse update To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 19:57:08 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I stated in my last update that APM with Rodent.sys was a problem. I called IBM today and they suggested that PCMCIA / APM was a problem with WARP. In fact they told me to comment out APM.SYS and VAPM.SYS! This seems to allow the machine to enter / exit suspend, but causes any PCMCIA cards to be left powered off (disabled) after a suspend. While I consider this to be a problem, I almost never come off of suspend and use the modem. There was some discussion of APM problems with WARP in the past on this mailing list. Can someone confirm this? -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Tue Jan 10 20:10:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01989 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 Jan 1995 22:35:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08297; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 22:48:00 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 22:47:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08287; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 22:47:56 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA13238; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 21:47:54 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 21:47:52 -0600 (CST) From: John Kim Subject: Re: Cat's tongue or the likes.. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199501092329.AAA14776@asimov.cnam.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Jan 1995, Edmund Ronald wrote: > I want some cat's tongues or other thinkpad caps too.. Does someone want to organize a group purchase and ask IBM if there'd be any discount? From ???@??? Tue Jan 10 20:10:08 1995 Received: from faroe.vp.uiuc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03308 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 Jan 1995 22:41:56 -0600 Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by faroe.vp.uiuc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA16977; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 22:41:44 -0600 Received: from Virginia.EDU by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa05540; 9 Jan 95 23:28 EST Received: from scsw6.slac.stanford.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa05528; 9 Jan 95 23:27 EST Received: from llewelyn.SLAC.Stanford.EDU by SCSW6.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #6987) id <01HLNLYOZCKG000A95@SCSW6.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>; Mon, 09 Jan 1995 20:28:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by llewelyn.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (NX5.67d/NX3.0S) id AA15425; Mon, 9 Jan 95 20:27:33 -0800 Date: Mon, 09 Jan 1995 20:27:33 -0800 From: "Roger M. Jones" Subject: XJack Modem To: ibm-tp500@virginia.edu Message-Id: <9501100427.AA15425@llewelyn.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> X-Envelope-To: ibm-tp500@virginia.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Dear Users, I'm about to purchase a modem, more than likely the x-jack (xj-1144) that is being sold by J&R for $209 Is this a good price? Also, what's the difference between the 1144 & 2144? And finally, can anyone point me to a review of PCMCIA modems? Many thanks...... Regards, Roger (rmj@llewelyn.slac.stanford.edu) From ???@??? Tue Jan 10 20:10:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17017 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 10 Jan 1995 00:12:21 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15442; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 00:22:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 00:22:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15432; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 00:22:06 -0500 From: Received: from AL-BURRO.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA12624; Tue, 10 Jan 95 00:22:03 EST Received: by al-burro.MIT.EDU (5.57/4.7) id AA06289; Tue, 10 Jan 95 00:22:02 -0500 Message-Id: <9501100522.AA06289@al-burro.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: LINUX: Anyone happy with Megahertz XJ2144? Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 00:22:00 EST Hi! I have a TP750Cs and i have a Mhz XJ2144 Modem. I'm running kernel 1.1.74 and PCMCIA drivers 2.3.9 Ever since the PCMCIA 2.2.3 drivers came out, it has become increasingly difficult to have cardmgr recognize the modem as as modem and not a pcmem_cs card. This is a documented problem, but i wanted to know if those of you ot there have had any luck sending a HUP signal to cardmgr and forcing it to recognize the card without having to remove and reinsert the modem about 20 times... Just wondering... Also, has anyone tried to find out if the power button sends some sort of keyboard code that could be deactivated so that it would be impossible to turn the TP off without running, for example, a shutdown script? (I know, wishful thinking...) Thanks in advance for any help. PS. sign me in for an order of cat tongues! Art Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | ajm1@mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology WWW: http://www.mit.edu:8001/afs/athena.mit.edu/user/a/j/ajm1/www/top.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies. From ???@??? Tue Jan 10 20:10:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26364 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 10 Jan 1995 01:48:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21708; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 02:06:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 02:06:30 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21687; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 02:06:26 -0500 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA20930 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 09:06:24 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 09:06:24 +0200 Message-Id: <199501100706.JAA20930@ra.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpinen@linus X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: PortRepl. design flaw fixed Hi, Approximately one year ago I wrote about a problem that I encountered when using a PortReplicator /w PCMCIA and an external monitor. The external monitor (all tested models) picked a disturbance when the PCMCIA-ethernet card in the PortReplicator was enabled i.e. got power. The problem was reported to IBM in December 1993. It took 7 months to convince IBM that the ThinkPad models 750/360/755 suffer from this flaw i.e. make the abovementioned configuration hard to use (lots of eyestrain). July 7. 1994 the IBM lab finally located the problem. December 1994 IBM offered to fix the problem by changing the motherboard. Yesterday,13 months later, the problem was gone. The lesson is: If you use a 750/360/755 with a (PCMCIA in a PortReplicator) AND (an external monitor) AND (experience moving wave patterns on your external screen), IBM now knows what to do with your problem. I hope that others than me need this information Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Research Fellow Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University, DataCity FIN-20520 Turku From ???@??? Tue Jan 10 20:10:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28132 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 10 Jan 1995 02:18:07 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22927; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 02:30:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 02:30:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22913; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 02:29:55 -0500 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA21886 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 09:29:55 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 09:29:55 +0200 Message-Id: <199501100729.JAA21886@ra.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpinen@linus X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: Re: PortRepl. design flaw fixed . . . >I hope that others than me need this information Should read I hope that others than me don't need this information ^^^^^ Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Research Fellow Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University, DataCity FIN-20520 Turku From ???@??? Tue Jan 10 20:10:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01142 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 10 Jan 1995 03:07:25 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA25656; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 03:12:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 03:12:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA25644; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 03:11:57 -0500 Received: from champion.tcs.co.jp by champion.tcs.co.jp (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA16963 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 17:18:53 +0900 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 17:18:53 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199501100818.RAA16963@Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Linux and Xfree86 3.1 (X11R6) on a Thinkpad 755C Here is a config file for all you Linux users. It works with my Thinkpad just fine. Depending on your display type, you may need to tweak the "Virtual 1024 1024" line, though. Have fun. -Lee lee@tcs.com # $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/XF86Conf.cpp,v 3.6 1994/09/26 15:30:19 dawes Exp $ # # Copyright (c) 1994 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the # XFree86 Project. # # ********************************************************************** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. This man page is installed as /usr/X11R6/man/man5/XF86Config.5x # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ********************************************************************** Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together), # as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath # command (or a combination of both methods) FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Server flags section. # ********************************************************************** Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging # NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the server abort sequence # DontZap EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Input devices # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Keyboard section # ********************************************************************** Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" # when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the # following line # Protocol "Xqueue" AutoRepeat 500 5 ServerNumLock # Specifiy which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Xleds 1 2 3 # To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, # RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock: LeftAlt Meta # RightAlt ModeShift # RightCtl Compose # ScrollLock ModeLock EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Pointer section # ********************************************************************** Section "Pointer" Protocol "PS/2" Device "/dev/mouse" # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. # Protocol "Xqueue" # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice # BaudRate 9600 # SampleRate 150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice # Emulate3Buttons # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice # ChordMiddle EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Monitor section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Unknown" # Bandwidth is in MHz unless units are specified # Bandwidth 25.2 # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. # HorizSync 31.5 # typical for a single frequency fixed-sync monitor # HorizSync 35.38 # for SVGA Thinkpad 755Cs HorizSync 20-40 # for SVGA Thinkpad 755Cs # HorizSync 30-64 # multisync # HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies # HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. # VertRefresh 60 # typical for a single frequency fixed-sync monitor # VertRefresh 68.38 # for SVGA Thinkpad 755Cs VertRefresh 60-70 # for SVGA Thinkpad 755Cs # VertRefresh 50-100 # multisync # VertRefresh 60, 65 # multiple fixed sync frequencies # VertRefresh 40-50, 80-100 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies # Modes can be specified in two formats. A compact one-line format, or # a multi-line format. # A generic VGA 640x480 mode (hsync = 31.5kHz, refresh = 60Hz) # These two are equivalent # name clock horizontal timing vertical timing flags #ModeLine "640x480" 28.3 640 672 768 800 480 490 492 525 ModeLine "640x480" 28.3 640 680 720 864 480 488 491 521 #ModeLine "1024x768" 65 1024 1032 1176 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Graphics device section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of graphics device sections may be present Section "Device" # SVGA server auto-detected chipset Identifier "Generic SVGA" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" Chipset "wd90c30" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections # ********************************************************************** # The colour SVGA server Section "Screen" Driver "svga" Device "Generic SVGA" Monitor "Generic Monitor" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 # Virtual 800 600 Virtual 1024 1024 EndSubsection EndSection From ???@??? Tue Jan 10 20:10:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00037 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 10 Jan 1995 10:43:34 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29370; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 10:28:56 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 10:28:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29353; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 10:28:51 -0500 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA03582; Tue, 10 Jan 95 08:28:08 MST Date: Tue, 10 Jan 95 08:28:08 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9501101528.AA03582@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2: Mouse/APM update > There was some discussion of APM problems with WARP in the past on this > mailing list. Can someone confirm this? I had previously reported (and a few others have confirmed) a suspend/resume problem under Warp which ultimately turned out to be related to the use of a power-on password. Once the password was disabled, however, all was well - including the abililty to access PCMCIA cards immediately following a suspend. Since saying adios to my power-on password, I've had no trouble at all. > I called IBM today and they suggested that PCMCIA / APM was a problem with > WARP. In fact they told me to comment out APM.SYS and VAPM.SYS! Strange, as the power-on password workaround also came directly from IBM. In fact, I logged a PMR with OS/2 tech support relative to suspend/resume problems which was eventually closed out as being non-reproducible. (This due to the fact that they were not using a power-on password). If there is some underlying problem with APM.SYS, I don't seem to be experiencing it. Please keep us posted... -key _________________________________________________________________ Karl E. Yeanoplos | kyeanopl@den.mmc.com Martin Marietta Corp. | P.O. Box 179/M.S. 5451 | Compuserve: 73741,453 Denver, CO. 80201 | From ???@??? Tue Jan 10 20:10:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01155 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 10 Jan 1995 10:47:43 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29622; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 10:32:52 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 10:32:50 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29608; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 10:32:48 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rRiYk-0004tlC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 09:32 CST Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rRiYj-0002nbC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 09:32 CST Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRiYi-0002wvC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 09:32 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: OS/2: Rodent Author Responds To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 09:32:32 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI, The following is from the author of Rodent for OS/2. Forwarded message: > > Are you currently supporting Rodent? > > Yes. > > > The latest version which I have found on the "net" is v1.00. > > The current version available to registered users is 1.0.10. > > > There appears to be problems with APM with Rodent > > on a Thinkpad 750C running under Warp. > > The documentation states that RODENT does not support "hot-plugging" which > essentially includes APM (assuming that by APM you mean "Automatic Power > Management"). RODENT can be used with APM for those mice which do not reset > when they lose power and assuming that the OS/2 or hardware restores the > serial port to the correct parameters. A Logitech buss mouse might work best > with APM under RODENT. Otherwise, I have no current plans to support APM. > > I will continue to support RODENT and to add minor features, including support > for new releases of OS/2, but major development is not planned at this time > because most people don't register and I have other ways to waste time (RODENT > is more than 15,000 lines of assembly and the registrations MIGHT on a good > month pay for the connect charges to support RODENT). > > Michael Lee Finney -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Wed Jan 11 11:40:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25997 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 10 Jan 1995 21:22:43 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17599; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 21:24:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 21:24:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ux3.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17589; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 21:24:28 -0500 Received: from colt-81.slip.uiuc.edu by ux3.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10900 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 10 Jan 1995 20:23:37 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 20:23:37 -0600 Message-Id: <199501110223.AA10900@ux3.cso.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Help on FAQ? I have to admit to myself that I won't be able to tackle all parts of the FAQ since I don't have the hardware to gain proper insight. So, I'm turning to the group for volunteers in the following areas: Networking MWave DSP TP755 and TP360 _specific_ details I may think of others but the prime area is the networking. Any takers? :) --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Wed Jan 11 11:41:05 1995 Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08455 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 11 Jan 1995 08:13:36 -0600 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA05874; Wed, 11 Jan 95 07:13:46 MST Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 07:13:46 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9501111413.AA05874@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Help on FAQ? > I have to admit to myself that I won't be able to tackle all parts > of the FAQ since I don't have the hardware to gain proper insight. > So, I'm turning to the group for volunteers in the following areas: > Networking > MWave DSP > TP755 and TP360 _specific_ details > I may think of others but the prime area is the networking. Any > takers? :) Sean - As a 360 owner, I'd be more than happy to help with whatever TP360 specific details you'd like to include in the FAQ. _________________________________________________________________ Karl E. Yeanoplos | kyeanopl@den.mmc.com Martin Marietta Corp. | P.O. Box 179/M.S. 5451 | Compuserve: 73741,453 Denver, CO. 80201 | From ???@??? Wed Jan 11 11:41:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07156 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 11 Jan 1995 10:36:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08339; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 10:33:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 10:33:03 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jcpenney.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08318; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 10:33:00 -0500 Received: from osiris.jcpenney.com by jcpenney.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02599; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 09:29:41 -0600 Received: by osiris.jcpenney.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA08359; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 09:33:55 +0600 Message-Id: <9501111533.AA08359@osiris.jcpenney.com> From: JABURNS@jcpenney.com Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 09:33:54: CST To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: HARDWARE: what keyboard works with the Dock I? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Description: HARDWARE: what keyboard works with the Dock I? I'm using a 750C in a Dock I and am using the IBM M4-1 keyboard (from Lexmark). This keyboard is the TP external keyboard, complete with trackpoint. The cable from the kb has two ends to connect to the Dock, one for the kb and one for the mouse. Since I didn't like the way the mouse seemed to act, I pulled the plug from the dock and plugged in a MS mouse instead! This has been working fine for almost a year now!! Hope this helps!! ******************************************************************************* John A. Burns Phone: (214) 591-6581 Sr. Technical Specialist Fax: (214) 531-6581 Advanced Information Technologies PROFS/jMail: JABURNS JCPenney Co., Inc. net: jaburns@jcpenney.com *** Forwarded Note *** Subject: HARDWARE: what keyboard works with the Dock I? From: Keith Moore Date: Jan 08 00:07 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU CC: moore@CS.UTK.EDU ..... After over a year of owning a Dock I, I'm finally using it for its intended purpose -- as a convenient way to connect my tp750 to an external monitor, ethernet card, mouse, etc. while I'm at home. Now all I need is a keyboard. But every time I've tried to use a keyboard with the Dock 1 it hasn't worked. If anyone has a keyboard working with the Dock 1, could you please tell me exactly what kind (vendor & model #) you are using? Also tell me what kind of thinkpad you have, in case it matters. Keith Moore *** End Forwarded Note *** From ???@??? Wed Jan 11 11:41:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13572 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 11 Jan 1995 10:54:32 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10798; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 10:56:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 10:56:35 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ftpbox.mot.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10780; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 10:56:31 -0500 Received: from pobox.mot.com by ftpbox.mot.com with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-3.1 for ) id AA14134; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 09:55:58 -0600 Received: from merlin.ecid.cig.mot.com by pobox.mot.com with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-3.1 for ) id AA24085; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 09:55:55 -0600 Received: from vulture.ecid.cig.mot.com (vulture.ecid.cig.mot.com [175.2.3.18]) by merlin.ecid.cig.mot.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA09023 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 15:57:28 GMT Received: (donaldb@localhost) by vulture.ecid.cig.mot.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA01043 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 15:55:36 GMT From: "Bill Donald" Message-Id: <9501111555.ZM1041@ecid.cig.mot.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 15:55:35 +0000 In-Reply-To: JABURNS@jcpenney.com "HARDWARE: what keyboard works with the Dock I?" (Jan 11, 9:33am) References: <9501111533.AA08359@osiris.jcpenney.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.0.1 01jun94) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: HARDWARE: what keyboard works with the Dock I? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Only IBM (or Lexmark) keyboards will function with a ThinkPad dock. There's a hardware check run at startup that detects the presence of a clone and blows it out. I'll post the exact details if anyone is really interested. FWIW I use a standard 102-key UK, PS/2 keyboard with my dock. -- Bill Donald donaldb@ecid.cig.mot.com Documentation Group Tel: (44) 017 9350 0088 Motorola ECID FAX: (44) 017 9354 1226 Swindon, SN5 8YQ Home email: wkd@farnbell.demon.co.uk Wilts. UK G7ENQ From ???@??? Wed Jan 11 21:11:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15457 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 11 Jan 1995 12:27:45 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16535; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 12:09:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 12:09:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from marlin.ssnet.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16525; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 12:09:18 -0500 Received: from ss6.ssnet.com by marlin.ssnet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17133; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:05:32 EST Received: by ss6.ssnet.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.6)/1.0um) id AA0087; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:07:32 -0500 Message-Id: <9501111707.AA0087@ss6.ssnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:05:41 -0500 From: forster@marlin.ssnet.com To: "ThinkPad 750 Mailing List " Reply-To: forster@marlin.ssnet.com Subject: Re: HARDWARE: what keyboard works with the Dock I? X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <66_92_1_789843945> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: //--- original message ------------------------------------------------------- > > Only IBM (or Lexmark) keyboards will function with a ThinkPad dock. There's a > hardware check run at startup that detects the presence of a clone and blows it > out. > > I'll post the exact details if anyone is really interested. FWIW I use a > standard 102-key UK, PS/2 keyboard with my dock. Now, something here can't be right: I am using a small no-name keyboard (model BTC-5100 Series, made in TAIWAN), and it works just fine on my Dock I. I don't know for sure, but I don't believe it is made by IBM or Lexmark. It was a very cheap keyboard ($25) that I bought at ComputerCity, but they haven't had it anymore for months (I was supposed to get some for friends in Germany, but no luck). The only thing that does not work is using the 'Fn' functions for turning off the display, going into suspend/hibernate, etc. (But I can just unplug it to use these, then plug it back in). > -- > Bill Donald donaldb@ecid.cig.mot.com > Documentation Group Tel: (44) 017 9350 0088 > Motorola ECID FAX: (44) 017 9354 1226 > Swindon, SN5 8YQ Home email: wkd@farnbell.demon.co.uk > Wilts. UK G7ENQ > _____________________________________________________________________ Dr. Peter Forster forster@ssnet.com 230 Steeplechase Circle Phone: (302) 239-6576 Wilmington, DE 19808 Fax: (302) 239-0772 _____________________________________________________________________ From ???@??? Wed Jan 11 21:11:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03185 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 11 Jan 1995 13:20:43 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19854; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 13:04:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 13:04:03 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ux3.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19831; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 13:04:01 -0500 Received: from colt-32.slip.uiuc.edu by ux3.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14985 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 11 Jan 1995 12:03:11 -0600 Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 12:03:11 -0600 Message-Id: <199501111803.AA14985@ux3.cso.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Thinkpad archives Thanks to Chris Hanson for donating a unifiable Thinkpad site. I have uploaded my haphazard collection of archives and the FAQ to the site and I plan to collect all the files I can find on the Thinkpad to provide a "one-stop shop". If you know of a site (beside Keith Moore's), let me know. The URL is ftp://swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu I plan to organize (somewhat) the archives a bit. The archive files are named by date XXXXYYYY.txt where XXXX signifies the the starting month and date and the YYYY signifies the end. The tp-mail.zip holds files which are long-name. Is there anyone who would object to me using long-names in the files? The archive files would be much easier to understand. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Fri Jan 13 14:15:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12853 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 12 Jan 1995 20:07:14 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04379; Thu, 12 Jan 1995 19:53:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 12 Jan 1995 19:53:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04366; Thu, 12 Jan 1995 19:53:04 -0500 Received: from efd.lth.se [130.235.49.14] (elg-4.efd.lth.se) by kobra.efd.lth.se with smtp (perl jhmail 0.20) id 2f15cec2_31d1_1 ; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 01:52:18 MET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 01:52:17 MET From: Erik Lindahl To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Adaptec ADA-460 problems? Hi , I am having some problems with my new adaptec PCMCIA to SCSI adapter, that is it won't work... It seems as if the driver can't find the card? Is there anybody out there who has managed to get it to work, preferrably with the EasyPlay facility (DOS/Win)... I would appreciate any help; if you have one working, could you send me a copy of your config.sys and autoexec.bat? (That would probably solve it...) Thanks in advance, Erik From ???@??? Fri Jan 13 14:15:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10349 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 12 Jan 1995 22:16:22 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17572; Thu, 12 Jan 1995 22:16:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 12 Jan 1995 22:16:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from noc4.dccs.upenn.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17560; Thu, 12 Jan 1995 22:15:58 -0500 Received: from DOLPHIN.UPENN.EDU by noc4.dccs.upenn.edu id AA25158; Thu, 12 Jan 95 22:15:47 -0500 Received: by dolphin.upenn.edu id WAA31678; Thu, 12 Jan 1995 22:15:47 -0500 From: mtran@dolphin.upenn.edu (Mark Tran) Posted-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 22:15:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199501130315.WAA31678@dolphin.upenn.edu> Subject: os/2 warp worth it? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 22:15:47 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn2.9] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I am thinking about moving to os/2 warp. can current users of warp please tell me whether if it's worth the $100 bucks. all info will be appreciated. Mark From ???@??? Fri Jan 13 14:15:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18739 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 12 Jan 1995 22:54:40 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20606; Thu, 12 Jan 1995 22:46:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 12 Jan 1995 22:46:56 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from iss.nus.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20596; Thu, 12 Jan 1995 22:46:53 -0500 Received: from grape.iss.nus.sg by iss.nus.sg (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA22052; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 11:47:40 +0800 From: kcheong@iss.nus.sg (Kevin Cheong) Message-Id: <9501130347.AA22052@iss.nus.sg> Subject: 2.88 Drives Info.. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 11:47:39 +0800 (SST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi, This may not be directly related to a TP but I think the new TP 2.88 drives are the same as the ones which we use in the RS/600 PPC machines here at work. I'm trying to configure mtools-2.0.7 for the above machine with the 2.88 drive. I need some specs of the drive like so, struct device { char drive; /* the drive letter */ char *name; /* full path to device */ long offset; /* skip this many bytes */ <-- int fat_bits; /* FAT encoding scheme */ <-- int mode; /* any special open() flags */ int (*gioctl) (); /* gioctl() if needed */ int tracks; /* tracks */ <-- int heads; /* heads */ <-- int sectors; /* sectors */ <-- }; drive the drive letter (in uppercase) that you want to associate to this device. name full path to the device. Shell expansion is done on the name so things like $HOME/vpix/C: will work. offset skip over a partition table. Useful for msdos disk "images" such as those VP/ix uses. fat_bits The encoding scheme for the File Allocation Table. Currently supports only 12 and 16 bit FATs. Hard disks usually use 16 bit FATs, while all diskettes use 12 bit FATs. mode any special open() mode flags (not normally used, except in the AT&T Unixpc 7300/3b1). gioctl any special ioctl() calls required after opening the device (not normally used, except in the AT&T Unixpc 7300/3b1). tracks the number of tracks supported by this device or zero if this type of sanity checking is not required. Do NOT use this field for hard disks or disk "images". Also used by gioctl(), if present, as a default starting place. heads the number of heads supported by this device or zero if this type of sanity checking is not required. sectors the number of sectors supported by this device or zero if this type of sanity checking is not required. Will send more details and examples when requested (via email). Anyone ported mtools to the AIX 3.2 platform with a RS/6000 PPC + 2.88Mb floppy disk? --ta . kevin cheong iss nus mlp program . From ???@??? Fri Jan 13 14:15:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06502 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 13 Jan 1995 00:39:45 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02700; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 00:55:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 00:55:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02686; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 00:55:36 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA01990; Thu, 12 Jan 1995 23:55:29 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 00:56:01 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <3362.jokim@mit.edu> To: mtran@dolphin.upenn.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: os/2 warp worth it? I FINALLY got my mail working again: In message Thu, 12 Jan 1995 22:15:47 -0500 (EST), mtran@dolphin.upenn.edu (Mark Tran) writes: > I am thinking about moving to os/2 warp. can current users of warp > please tell me whether if it's worth the $100 bucks. all info will be > appreciated. I've replied in private email. I really think these topics are drifting >from the purpose of this mailing list. Stuff like OS/2 (or Linux or NT or Win95) on the Thinkpads is fine, but general questions and discussions about OS/2 or the Mac (etc.) belong in the respective comp.* groups. For those of you who want to know more, I suggest you read/post in comp.os.os2.misc or comp.os.os2.setup. _____________________________________________________________________ |\_____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." | | | jokim@mit.edu - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu jokim@tuna.mit.edu does not work (yet) | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Fri Jan 13 14:15:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08881 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 13 Jan 1995 00:59:19 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03334; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 01:12:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 01:12:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03325; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 01:12:15 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id BAA15773; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 01:09:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199501130609.BAA15773@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: kcheong@iss.nus.sg (Kevin Cheong) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 2.88 Drives Info.. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 13 Jan 1995 11:47:39 +0800." <9501130347.AA22052@iss.nus.sg> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 01:09:29 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU The 2.88 Mb drives appear to be: 80 tracks 2 heads 36 sectors/track The other mtools device parameters are pretty much specific to whatever version of UNIX you are running. From ???@??? Fri Jan 13 14:15:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27126 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 13 Jan 1995 10:26:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27858; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 09:43:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 09:43:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom7.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27848; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 09:43:23 -0500 Received: by netcom7.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id GAA10674; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 06:42:17 -0800 Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 06:42:17 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Buffington Subject: Re: Adaptec ADA-460 problems? To: Erik Lindahl Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII According to a message I saw in the OS/2 forum on Compuserve, there is an OS/2 driver which has been tested as between the Adaptek SCSI PCMCIA card and various CD-ROMs. Don't know about Windoze. rogjd@netcom.com Glendale, CA AB6WR On Fri, 13 Jan 1995, Erik Lindahl wrote: > > Hi , > > I am having some problems with my new adaptec PCMCIA to SCSI adapter, > that is it won't work... > > It seems as if the driver can't find the card? > > Is there anybody out there who has managed to get it to work, preferrably > with the EasyPlay facility (DOS/Win)... > > I would appreciate any help; if you have one working, could you send me a > copy of your config.sys and autoexec.bat? (That would probably solve it...) > > Thanks in advance, > > Erik > From ???@??? Fri Jan 13 14:15:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00115 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 13 Jan 1995 10:34:18 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28147; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 09:48:52 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 09:48:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom7.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28136; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 09:48:49 -0500 Received: by netcom7.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id GAA11180; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 06:47:43 -0800 Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 06:47:42 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Buffington Subject: RE: os/2 warp worth it? To: "John H. Kim" Cc: mtran@dolphin.upenn.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <3362.jokim@mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On the other hand, there are some Thinkpad-specific considerations regarding his question which are relevant... rogjd@netcom.com Glendale, CA AB6WR On Fri, 13 Jan 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > I FINALLY got my mail working again: > > In message Thu, 12 Jan 1995 22:15:47 -0500 (EST), > mtran@dolphin.upenn.edu (Mark Tran) writes: > > > I am thinking about moving to os/2 warp. can current users of warp > > please tell me whether if it's worth the $100 bucks. all info will be > > appreciated. > > I've replied in private email. I really think these topics are drifting > from the purpose of this mailing list. Stuff like OS/2 (or Linux or NT or > Win95) on the Thinkpads is fine, but general questions and discussions > about OS/2 or the Mac (etc.) belong in the respective comp.* groups. For > those of you who want to know more, I suggest you read/post in > comp.os.os2.misc or comp.os.os2.setup. > _____________________________________________________________________ > |\_____________________________________________________________________\ > | | | > | | John H. Kim "None of what you are seeing is actually happening." | > | | jokim@mit.edu - disclaimer for TV movie 'Without Warning' | > | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu jokim@tuna.mit.edu does not work (yet) | > \|_____________________________________________________________________| > From ???@??? Fri Jan 13 14:15:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02762 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 13 Jan 1995 10:42:32 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28106; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 09:47:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 09:47:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom7.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28096; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 09:47:31 -0500 Received: by netcom7.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id GAA11095; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 06:46:19 -0800 Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 06:46:19 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Buffington Subject: Re: os/2 warp worth it? To: Mark Tran Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199501130315.WAA31678@dolphin.upenn.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been using OS/2 Warp on my TP755Cs and had zero problems, and am quite happy with it. Couple of points: 1) don't use the power -on password feature of the TP with WARP; it evidently conflicts with the Warp APM, which is otherwise quite good. 2) Warp does take up more disk space than Windoze. 3) All my DOS and Windoze programs ran fine under WARP. I have, however, moved off of most Windoze apps in favor of Native OS/2 Apps, primarily wordprocessing (Describe 5.0) and terminal (WARP comes with a real nice bonus pack which contains a Compuserve navigator, an internet program, and other goodies.) Have fun. I thought it was well worth the $75 I paid. rogjd@netcom.com Glendale, CA AB6WR On Thu, 12 Jan 1995, Mark Tran wrote: > Hi all, > > I am thinking about moving to os/2 warp. can current users of warp > please tell me whether if it's worth the $100 bucks. all info will be > appreciated. > > Mark > From ???@??? Fri Jan 13 14:15:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02315 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 13 Jan 1995 11:51:21 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02596; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 11:01:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 11:01:17 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02584; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 11:01:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by dingo.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP id AA14834 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 14 Jan 1995 02:01:05 +1000 Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 02:00:58 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson Subject: QUES: Tape backup or SyQuest... (NOT warp, mac, win95!) To: tp750 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Firstly, has the FAQ been updated since 7/10/94? I've lost the ftp site at which the faq is stored, and 7/10 is my most recent downloaded copy. Secondly, I'm looking for external backup of some kind. So far it looks like I'll be flipping a three sided coin to choose between: Colorado Trakker BackPack 250MB tape SyQuest 270MB I've heard nothing but rave reviews of the Trakker. Will it run suitably quickly on the EPP of my TP360? Is there a real difference between the Trakker and the BackPack, and do either of these cause problems on anyone's TP setups? For the extra money, does anyone have an external SyQuest working happily on their 'pad? In the most recent BYTE to make it to southern shores, a reseller has SyQuest 'internal, SCSI and parallel' models. Is the parallel SyQuest new, or did a secretary make a mistake? I'm trying desperately to find a dealer here who knows more than the pricelist. As this is not *directly* TP related, it would be best to reply directly to me, and I'll summarise to the list. Wishing things were a little cooler, Rohan. From ???@??? Sat Jan 14 03:10:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AB02449 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 13 Jan 1995 15:18:09 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17266; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 14:42:19 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 14:42:17 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from VNET.IBM.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17256; Fri, 13 Jan 1995 14:42:15 -0500 From: Message-Id: <199501131942.OAA17256@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from DETVMIC1 by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2633; Fri, 13 Jan 95 14:41:56 EST Date: Fri, 13 Jan 95 14:41:10 EST To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject:IBM 540MB for sale Hope this works as I haven't appended to this forum yet. I have a friend who is interested in selling a brand new IBM thinkpad 540 MB 750/75X hard drive He has purchased an 810 MB drive and has no need for the 540 MB out of his new machine. He is willing to let it go for $700. If interested please contact Kevin Lambert at 313 322-3698 (USA) or at internet david.johnston@aol.com Thanks!!!! From ???@??? Sat Jan 14 17:37:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10266 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 14 Jan 1995 14:36:25 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22623; Sat, 14 Jan 1995 14:45:11 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 14 Jan 1995 14:45:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22587; Sat, 14 Jan 1995 14:45:00 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id NAA22930; Sat, 14 Jan 1995 13:28:09 -0500 Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 13:28:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Donald A. Whiteside" To: chunster@vnet.ibm.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199501131942.OAA17256@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 13 Jan 1995 chunster@vnet.ibm.com wrote: > Subject:IBM 540MB for sale > Hope this works as I haven't appended to this forum yet. I have a friend > who is interested in selling a brand new IBM thinkpad 540 MB 750/75X hard drive > He has purchased an 810 MB drive and has no need for the 540 MB out of his > new machine. He is willing to let it go for $700. If interested please > contact Kevin Lambert at 313 322-3698 (USA) or at internet > david.johnston@aol.com This is a good deal if you want another drive while being able to swap in your existing one, or wish to avoid hassling with the surgery discussed here in the past. The bare drive contained in that 540M w/case has a current market price of ~$550. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Eternal Student Florida International University GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Sat Jan 14 21:53:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24533 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 14 Jan 1995 18:27:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14932; Sat, 14 Jan 1995 18:30:50 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 14 Jan 1995 18:30:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ux3.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14921; Sat, 14 Jan 1995 18:30:46 -0500 Received: from colt-16.slip.uiuc.edu by ux3.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04301 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 14 Jan 1995 17:29:35 -0600 Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 17:29:35 -0600 Message-Id: <199501142329.AA04301@ux3.cso.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: modem price update Just passing this interesting tidbit along... >Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 03:49:42 -0800 >X-Sender: joel@mercury.sfsu.edu (Unverified) >To: ibm-tp500@virginia.edu >From: Joel Salmeron i Viver >Subject: Re: modem price update >Content-Length: 1026 > >> >>I'm passing this along from the most recent Insight (800-488-0004) >>catalog to inform and invite comments: USR Sportster V.34 PCMCIA >>Modem for $269. The only thing close to this price at this speed >>I've heard about is the TDK (Microcom manufactured) modem sporadically >>available from one particular store in CA. One detail that would be >>interesting for comparison would be cellular compatibility of the TDK >>(the USR has none). I'd be interested in any reasons this might not >>be the fab. deal it appears to be. >> > >bought a tdk df2814 a while back. works great. i use the parallel driver >(windows only) supplied (req. enabler but a new driver is about to be >released which does not require it) and it works perfectly (modem is >essentially a microcom deskporte fast). ibm's easyplaying autodrv >configures the card ok. mnp10 acp is there, but i have no idea how it works >with cellular phones though. free upgrade to v34. 5 year warranty. the >store being refered is nca (800) 961.12.00. got it for $299. > >Joel > > > --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Sat Jan 14 21:54:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14932 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 14 Jan 1995 21:13:04 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26467; Sat, 14 Jan 1995 21:19:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 14 Jan 1995 21:19:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26457; Sat, 14 Jan 1995 21:19:37 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA03299; Sat, 14 Jan 1995 20:19:36 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 21:19:35 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <76809.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP755 V.34 DSP Modem for OS/2 Just spotted this on the OS/2 newsgroups. For those lucky enough to own the TP755 with DSP: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 20:43:52 CST From: Rich Chong Message-ID: <95013.204352U41602@uicvm.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.dcom.modems Subject: V.34 for Thinkpad755 WARP! Lines: 9 IBM just released some dsp code for lucky folks running OS/2 on a ThinkPad 755 (The one with the mwave dsp for sound/modem). It lets the 755 do v.34 28.8kbps. ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/mobiles/thkpdwp1.exe IBM is still working on a non-OS/2 version of the code. I havn't tried it, but thought some would like to know. Have fun. rich chong _____________________________________________________________________ |\_____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "God knows what she could've gotten my mother to say." | | | jokim@mit.edu - Bill Clinton to Newt Gingrich, on Connie Chung | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu jokim@tuna.mit.edu does not work (yet) | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Sat Jan 14 21:54:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18442 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 14 Jan 1995 21:37:40 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00213; Sat, 14 Jan 1995 21:56:05 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 14 Jan 1995 21:56:03 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00202; Sat, 14 Jan 1995 21:56:02 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id VAA14517; Sat, 14 Jan 1995 21:58:56 -0500 Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 21:58:56 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: "John H. Kim" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755 V.34 DSP Modem for OS/2 In-Reply-To: <76809.jokim@mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 14 Jan 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > IBM just released some dsp code for lucky folks running OS/2 on a > ThinkPad 755 (The one with the mwave dsp for sound/modem). > It lets the 755 do v.34 28.8kbps. > > ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/mobiles/thkpdwp1.exe > > IBM is still working on a non-OS/2 version of the code. >From what I've gleaned from reading the dsp newsgroup, this will take a decent amount of processor power. Beats paying $300 to replace a 14.4k, I'm sure, but it won't be w/o a cost.... From ???@??? Sun Jan 15 03:09:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01293 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 14 Jan 1995 23:20:54 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10124; Sat, 14 Jan 1995 23:36:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 14 Jan 1995 23:36:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ux3.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10104; Sat, 14 Jan 1995 23:36:19 -0500 Received: from colt-16.slip.uiuc.edu (ruger-29.slip.uiuc.edu) by ux3.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05806 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 14 Jan 1995 22:35:04 -0600 Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 22:35:04 -0600 Message-Id: <199501150435.AA05806@ux3.cso.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: QUES: Tape backup or SyQuest... (NOT warp, mac, win95!) >Firstly, has the FAQ been updated since 7/10/94? I've lost the ftp site >at which the faq is stored, and 7/10 is my most recent downloaded copy. Nope. It's in severe need of it though and I'm working on it... >Secondly, I'm looking for external backup of some kind. So far it looks Just be sure you don't limit yourself to one or two operating systems unless you know for sure that you'll stick with DOS. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Mon Jan 16 00:42:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17625 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 15 Jan 1995 19:06:09 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29363; Sun, 15 Jan 1995 19:12:22 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 15 Jan 1995 19:12:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29353; Sun, 15 Jan 1995 19:12:16 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id SAA27419; Sun, 15 Jan 1995 18:44:37 -0500 Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 18:44:37 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Sang H Kim Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: harddrives for tp755 In-Reply-To: <0j6OQnq00YUqE8Y0YG@andrew.cmu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 15 Jan 1995, Sang H Kim wrote: > I have a tp755cs > I'm looking for a new harddrive that will work with it, any > recommendations and cost AND availability. > > I'm looking for something around 500mb or larger. > thanks a lot. If you have WWW ability through Lynx or Mosaic, point at http://shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad.html. There are several documents and saved letters about new hard drives for the 75X series. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Eternal Student Florida International University GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Tue Jan 17 21:14:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10825 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 Jan 1995 12:25:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10823; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 12:13:01 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 12:13:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rigel by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10813; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 12:12:57 -0500 Received: from leonardo.lmt.com by rigel with SMTP id AA04335 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 Jan 1995 11:17:07 -0600 Received: from LEONARDO/SMTPQUEUE by leonardo.lmt.com (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 16 Jan 95 11:16:50 GMT-6 Received: from SMTPQUEUE by LEONARDO (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 16 Jan 95 11:15:51 GMT-6 From: "Chris Schumann" Organization: LaserMaster Technologies R&D Divn. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 11:15:42 CST6CDT Subject: WANTED: IBM FTP Site Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <48432BB2CD3@leonardo.lmt.com> I'd like to check for new driver versions. Please email me or followup with the address. Thanks------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Schumann chrissc@leonardo.lmt.com "What exactly do you do?" -- my Mom From ???@??? Tue Jan 17 21:14:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06083 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 Jan 1995 13:53:13 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16384; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 13:45:26 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 13:45:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rigel by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16360; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 13:45:15 -0500 Received: from leonardo.lmt.com by rigel with SMTP id AA05885 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 Jan 1995 12:49:24 -0600 Received: from LEONARDO/SMTPQUEUE by leonardo.lmt.com (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 16 Jan 95 12:49:06 GMT-6 Received: from SMTPQUEUE by LEONARDO (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 16 Jan 95 12:48:11 GMT-6 From: "Chris Schumann" Organization: LaserMaster Technologies R&D Divn. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 12:48:05 CST6CDT Subject: re:WANTED IBM FTP Site Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <485BCB87863@leonardo.lmt.com> I wrote: > I'd like to check for new driver versions. Please email me or followup > with the address. I've since found their WWW address, and it's a much nicer interface: no index files to get. http://www.pc.ibm.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Schumann chrissc@leonardo.lmt.com "What exactly do you do?" -- my Mom From ???@??? Tue Jan 17 21:14:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19438 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 Jan 1995 14:36:40 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20053; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 14:34:07 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 14:34:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay2.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20043; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 14:34:04 -0500 Received: from America.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP id QQxyyw09727; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 14:34:01 -0500 Received: from airlock.ppp.america.com by America.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA20905; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 14:33:01 +0500 Message-Id: <9501161933.AA20905@America.com> X-Sender: richh@america.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 14:25:51 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: richh@enterprise.America.com (Richard Holtz) Subject: TP755CE IBM FT Site pcco.ibm.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Richard Holtz RRH Associates Home Control(Automation)and Building Control Systems Consultants Tel: 904 676 2725 Cell FlipPhone: 904 679 4851 FAX: 904 676 0237 internet: richh@america.com Compuserve: Used when we are in the field: 76507.2222@compuserve.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From ???@??? Tue Jan 17 21:15:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23865 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 Jan 1995 18:26:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13399; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 18:08:24 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 18:08:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13389; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 18:08:20 -0500 From: Received: from M66-080-17.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA25461; Mon, 16 Jan 95 18:08:18 EST Received: by m66-080-17.MIT.EDU (5.57/4.7) id AA25603; Mon, 16 Jan 95 18:08:16 -0500 Message-Id: <9501162308.AA25603@m66-080-17.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Trackpoint Covers Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 18:08:11 EST I called IBM this morning in order to find out abou the new cat-tongue covers, they are sending me two for free (for first-timers :) and the part number... The person I talked to thought that they cost about $4.00 ea. hope this is useful... Art Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | ajm1@mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://www.mit.edu:8001/afs/athena.mit.edu/user/a/j/ajm1/www/top.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "That Person you see in the Mirror is made up of D-Amino Acids" --C.P. From ???@??? Tue Jan 17 21:15:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12022 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 Jan 1995 19:54:19 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20663; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 20:09:13 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 20:09:11 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from werple.mira.net.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20653; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 20:09:08 -0500 Received: (from guardian@localhost) by werple.mira.net.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA24209; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 11:10:40 +1100 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 11:09:49 +1100 (EST) From: Nick Allan Subject: 4mb dram cards To: thinkpad mailinglist Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all Can someone tell me, can I use thinkpad 720 4mb dram cards on my tp750? Thanks in advance. Regards Nick Guardian@werple.mira.net.au From ???@??? Tue Jan 17 21:15:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27199 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 Jan 1995 21:06:57 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27625; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 21:17:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 21:17:07 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27615; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 21:17:06 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA07049; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 20:17:04 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 21:17:37 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <76658.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: WANTED: IBM FTP Site In message Mon, 16 Jan 1995 11:15:42 CST6CDT, "Chris Schumann" writes: > I'd like to check for new driver versions. Please email me or followup > with the address. Thinkpad stuff is at ftp.pcco.ibm.com in /pub/mobiles. Other IBM sites: ftp://ftp.ibm.net ftp://software.watson.ibm.com http://www.ibm.com http://www.ibm.net There are more but these are all I can remember right now. _____________________________________________________________________ |\_____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "God knows what she could've gotten my mother to say." | | | jokim@mit.edu - Bill Clinton to Newt Gingrich, on Connie Chung | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu jokim@tuna.mit.edu does not work (yet) | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Tue Jan 17 21:15:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27216 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 Jan 1995 21:06:59 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26908; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 21:09:56 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 21:09:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26852; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 21:09:49 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA06938; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 20:09:33 -0600 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 20:09:32 -0600 (CST) From: John Kim Subject: Re: 4mb dram cards To: Nick Allan Cc: thinkpad mailinglist In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 17 Jan 1995, Nick Allan wrote: > Can someone tell me, can I use thinkpad 720 4mb dram cards on my tp750? Theoretically, yes. They're supposed to be identical. The IBM models carry the same part number for the 700/720/750/755. Some people have reported the 700/720 cards working on their 750. I know of at least two people in this mailing list who reported it didn't work. Your best bet is to actually try it before buying, if possible. From ???@??? Tue Jan 17 21:15:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28341 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 Jan 1995 21:11:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27613; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 21:16:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 21:16:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27603; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 21:16:55 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA07037; Mon, 16 Jan 1995 20:16:53 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 21:17:27 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <76648.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Trackpoint Covers In message Mon, 16 Jan 1995 18:08:11 EST, writes: > The person I talked to thought that they cost about $4.00 ea. Somebody weigh one of these things and see how it compares to gold or silver per ounce. _____________________________________________________________________ |\_____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "God knows what she could've gotten my mother to say." | | | jokim@mit.edu - Bill Clinton to Newt Gingrich, on Connie Chung | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu jokim@tuna.mit.edu does not work (yet) | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Tue Jan 17 21:15:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06752 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 17 Jan 1995 08:49:50 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28880; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 08:48:47 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 08:48:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from icebox.mfltd.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28870; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 08:48:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (jfid@localhost) by icebox.mfltd.co.uk (8.6.4/8.6.4) id NAA16491 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 13:52:43 GMT Message-Id: <199501171352.NAA16491@icebox.mfltd.co.uk> From: jfid@mfltd.co.uk (James Fidell) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 13:52:42 +0000 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Lots of questions... I have a TP755C, 20Mb RAM, DOCK I, PCMCIA ethernet card, SMC Ultra ethernet card in the docking station which I sometimes swap with the controller for an HP Scanjet IIcx, external SCSI CD ROM and lots of questions to go with it. Hopefully someone can help... I want to install OS/2 and DOS/Windows on separate partitions, using Boot Manager to select between the two. I have a new 810Mb disk for this. Currently I have a 540Mb disk with PC DOS and Windows installed. This has proved to be a very unreliable set-up -- the system crashes a great deal (especially in Windows :-) and I've had lots of problems getting enough free memory for everything to run correctly. So, 1) Is there any point installing MS-DOS and WfW 3.11 instead of PC-DOS and Windows 3.1 ? Is it likely to be more reliable ? 2) If I do install MS-DOS rather than PC-DOS, can I still use the power management stuff and if so, how ? Are there other things I won't be able to use ? 3) If I have to use PC DOS, how do I go about transferring it from my (single partition) 540Mb disk to a 300Mb partition on my 810Mb disk ? 4) How do I get DOS/Windows (either sort) to recognised my CD ROM drive ? 5) When I install OS/2, what's the correct selection for the soundcard type ? The install program suggests the Crystal Semi 4231, but nowhere in the documentation does it tell me what the Thinkpad sound system is. 6) I assume that it's correct to install the OS/2 versions of the Audio and Video Features software. Is there anything else I should install under OS/2 ? (DOCK I options ?) 7) I'm trying to install IBM C Set++ v2.1 for OS/2. However, the multimedia tutorial won't work properly. It asks for the audio device number when installed, suggesting a default of 1, but how do I find out if this is correct ? Will it work at all ? Thanks in advance for any help, James. -- "Yield to temptation -- | jfid@mfltd.co.uk it may not pass your way again" | http://www.mfltd.co.uk/~jfid/ | - Lazarus Long | James Fidell From ???@??? Tue Jan 17 21:15:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13592 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 17 Jan 1995 11:39:23 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07272; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:58:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:58:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07262; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:58:12 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA13251; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 09:58:10 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:58:44 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <39525.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 32 MB DRAM card Out of curiosity, has anybody actually bought a 32MB IC-DRAM card? How much do they cost? Who's selling them? (All my catalogs seem to be going to my home address in California) _____________________________________________________________________ |\_____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "God knows what she could've gotten my mother to say." | | | jokim@mit.edu - Bill Clinton to Newt Gingrich, on Connie Chung | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu jokim@tuna.mit.edu does not work (yet) | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Tue Jan 17 21:15:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12104 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 17 Jan 1995 12:39:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07260; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:58:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:58:04 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07250; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:58:03 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA13245; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 09:58:00 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:58:26 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <39507.jokim@mit.edu> To: jfid@mfltd.co.uk, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Lots of questions... In message Tue, 17 Jan 1995 13:52:42 +0000, jfid@mfltd.co.uk (James Fidell) writes: > I have a TP755C, 20Mb RAM, DOCK I, PCMCIA ethernet card, SMC Ultra > ethernet card in the docking station which I sometimes swap with the > controller for an HP Scanjet IIcx, external SCSI CD ROM and lots of Drool... > 1) Is there any point installing MS-DOS and WfW 3.11 instead of PC-DOS > and Windows 3.1 ? Is it likely to be more reliable ? PC-DOS is just MS-DOS with a few files changed/renamed. I don't know about WFW3.11 vs. Win31, although the joke among OS/2 users is that Microsoft made it to break OS/2 for Windows 2.1. (It works in OS/2 Warp, except for peer to peer) > 2) If I do install MS-DOS rather than PC-DOS, can I still use the power > management stuff and if so, how ? Are there other things I won't > be able to use ? Yes, just be sure to select APM (Advanced Power Management) in DOS's setup. No. > 3) If I have to use PC DOS, how do I go about transferring it from my > (single partition) 540Mb disk to a 300Mb partition on my 810Mb disk ? You won't have to do this, but if you did: Format a floppy. From the 540 drive, type "sys a:". Put in the 810 drive. Boot off floppy, type "sys c:". All the other files can be copied over (your ethernet card and a network server sounds like a good temporary place for all your files). > 5) When I install OS/2, what's the correct selection for the soundcard > type ? The install program suggests the Crystal Semi 4231, but > nowhere in the documentation does it tell me what the Thinkpad sound > system is. Crystal Semi is correct. The drivers are somewhat buggy. > 6) I assume that it's correct to install the OS/2 versions of the > Audio and Video Features software. Is there anything else I should > install under OS/2 ? (DOCK I options ?) You don't need the Thinkpad Audio and Video features software under Warp. If you run into problems (video on a mono is buggy) you may want to go back to the older TP software. > 7) I'm trying to install IBM C Set++ v2.1 for OS/2. However, the > multimedia tutorial won't work properly. It asks for the audio > device number when installed, suggesting a default of 1, but how > do I find out if this is correct ? Will it work at all ? Hmm, don't know about this one. Have you tried asking IBM? If the multimedia uses MMPM, it should work with the TP755's limited audio. Where do you get the money for all these toys? :-) _____________________________________________________________________ |\_____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "God knows what she could've gotten my mother to say." | | | jokim@mit.edu - Bill Clinton to Newt Gingrich, on Connie Chung | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu jokim@tuna.mit.edu does not work (yet) | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Tue Jan 17 21:15:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12465 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 17 Jan 1995 13:44:14 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14038; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 12:13:42 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 12:13:40 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from trust.pegasus.esprit.ec.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14028; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 12:13:38 -0500 Received: from localhost by trust.pegasus.esprit.ec.org (5.65/Task-6) id AA26583; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 18:13:22 +0100 Message-Id: <9501171713.AA26583@trust.pegasus.esprit.ec.org> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP360CE, NetBSD-1.0 and Trackpoint mouse devices Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 18:13:22 +0100 From: Arne Helme X-Mts: smtp I have just installed NetBSD-1.0 and XFree8-3.1 on my TP360CE. Everything seems to work fine except for the Trackpoint mouse device. So far I have managed to configure(*) the original PS/2 AUX driver that is distributed with the NetBSD-1.0 kernel sources in such way that I can enjoy using the Trackpoint during an X session. However, when I quit the X session and return to the console, the keyboard is locked up. I have not found a way to unlock it except for rebooting the machine. I took a quick look at the sources mentioned in the TP750 FAQ (q6.2), but they seem to only work with NetBSD-0.9. Has anyone ported this software to NetBSD-1.0? ...or are there other things I should be aware of here? (*) well, I install the driver without actually probing for a device. It does not seem to be recognized by the original NetBSD-1.0 PS/2 AUX driver either. BTW, drop me a mail if you would like to have a copy of my XF86Config file for XFree8-3.1. Thanks, -- Arne | Arne Helme, arne@acm.org, arne@pegasus.esprit.ec.org (finger) | | PHONE: +31-53-893735, FAX: +31-53-333895, HOME: +31-53-326377 | | WWW : http://www.pegasus.esprit.ec.org/people/arne/index.html | | Inf/SPA, Univ. of Twente, P.O.Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede, Netherlands | From ???@??? Tue Jan 17 21:15:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20562 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 17 Jan 1995 15:05:32 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24730; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 14:43:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 14:43:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24710; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 14:43:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199501171943.OAA24710@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29271; Tue, 17 Jan 95 14:43:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 14:43:05 -0500 From: Chris Hanson To: jokim@mit.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:58:44 -0500 (EST) from "John H. Kim" Subject: 32 MB DRAM card Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:58:44 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Out of curiosity, has anybody actually bought a 32MB IC-DRAM card? How much do they cost? Who's selling them? (All my catalogs seem to be going to my home address in California) I have a 32MB PCMCIA card in my TP755, made by Kingston. This is different from IBM's DRAM adapter and SIMMs, but seems to work just fine. Purchased through Impediment Inc. for $1650. From ???@??? Tue Jan 17 21:15:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01994 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 17 Jan 1995 16:38:21 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00167; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 15:38:56 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 15:38:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00155; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 15:38:52 -0500 Received: from @hooked.net (webe.hooked.net [199.2.134.9]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA28250 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 12:38:48 -0800 Message-Id: <199501172038.MAA28250@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 12:44:40 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: 4mb dram cards How many can the 750's take? I went from 720 to 755, and was hoping to be able to use my old cards (I could) BUT the 755 will only hold one card.. >> Can someone tell me, can I use thinkpad 720 4mb dram cards on my tp750? > >Theoretically, yes. They're supposed to be identical. The IBM models >carry the same part number for the 700/720/750/755. Some people have >reported the 700/720 cards working on their 750. I know of at least two >people in this mailing list who reported it didn't work. Your best bet >is to actually try it before buying, if possible. > > -- _________________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From ???@??? Tue Jan 17 23:53:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03178 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 17 Jan 1995 21:17:24 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22828; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 20:57:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 20:57:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22818; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 20:57:36 -0500 From: Received: from MILANESE.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA18873; Tue, 17 Jan 95 20:57:30 EST Received: by milanese.MIT.EDU (5.57/4.7) id AA15234; Tue, 17 Jan 95 20:57:28 -0500 Message-Id: <9501180157.AA15234@milanese.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: IBM phone number Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 20:57:26 EST Well, after many requests, here's the number i called: 1-800-772-2227 They are usually pretty good, but the thinkpad people are very slow... Art Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | ajm1@mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://www.mit.edu:8001/afs/athena.mit.edu/user/a/j/ajm1/www/top.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "That Person you see in the Mirror is made up of D-Amino Acids" --C.P. From ???@??? Tue Jan 17 23:53:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25875 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 17 Jan 1995 22:42:22 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29847; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 22:45:05 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 22:45:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix3.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29832; Tue, 17 Jan 1995 22:45:00 -0500 Received: by panix3.panix.com id AA01928 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 17 Jan 1995 22:44:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 22:44:32 -0500 (EST) From: Michael MacDonald To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755ce/cd and Netscape In-Reply-To: <9501180157.AA15234@milanese.MIT.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I keep getting Genral Protection Faults when attempting to download certain GIF images using Netscape on my 755ce. The errors only occur when the screen colors are set to 32/64K; everything works fine at 256 colors, but the images don't look as good. Does anyone have experience running Netscape on the 755cd/ce? Are these errors caused by Netscape or the video driver? I don't get them using other Web browsers. Thanks. Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:06:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18667 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 09:06:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08778; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 09:16:42 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 09:16:41 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dill.lcs.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08764; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 09:16:39 -0500 From: Received: by dill.lcs.mit.edu; id AA00647; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 09:16:32 -0500 Message-Id: <9501181416.AA00647@dill.lcs.mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: dmoore@dill.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: 755ce/cd and Netscape Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 09:16:32 -0500 X-Mts: smtp I was getting the same (General Prot. Fault) errors using Word under Windows on a 755c. Someone suggested adding the following line to one of the windows .INI files (I think it was WINDOWS.INI or SYSTEM.INI), and it seems to help. The machine has 4 MB, so low memory may have something to do with the problem. . . . [386Enhanced] MaxBPs=768 <-- add this line From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:06:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04231 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 15:15:51 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25642; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 13:40:30 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 13:40:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25607; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 13:40:21 -0500 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA08175; Wed, 18 Jan 95 11:39:42 MST Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 11:39:42 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9501181839.AA08175@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Thinkpad: cat's tongue Anyone have the IBM part number for the new textured TrackPoint caps (cat's tongue)? The caps can be ordered through Lexmark, but they charge a fee (!) for looking the part number up for you. I was told that they will subsequently waive the fee if you place an order on-the- spot, but I would like to know the price before doing anything. (I suspect that these things are ridiculously expensive). Also, was there any resolution on whether or not there is enough interest to place a group order? Thanks, -key _________________________________________________________________ Karl E. Yeanoplos | kyeanopl@den.mmc.com Martin Marietta Corp. | P.O. Box 179/M.S. 5451 | Compuserve: 73741,453 Denver, CO. 80201 | From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:06:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03249 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 16:21:23 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03144; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 15:57:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 15:57:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03134; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 15:57:42 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id PAA02307; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 15:51:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 15:51:17 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Karl Yeanoplos Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Thinkpad: cat's tongue In-Reply-To: <9501181839.AA08175@amazon.den.mmc.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Jan 1995, Karl Yeanoplos wrote: > Anyone have the IBM part number for the new textured TrackPoint caps > (cat's tongue)? The caps can be ordered through Lexmark, but they > charge a fee (!) for looking the part number up for you. "Lexmark, may I help you?" "Yes, I'm interested in ordering some replacement covers for my Thinkpad Trackpoint." "Part number please?" "I don't have the part number, is it really necessary?" "Yes sir, it is." "Hmm.. can you look it up for me?" "Certainly sir. I must inform you that there is a $5 lookup fee." "$5 to look up a number? That's insane! Are you serious?" "No sir, there's a $10 fee for that. And rightous indignation has a 5% surcharge. If you'd like to terminate this call, please provide me a credit card number for the 51 constinants, 40 vowels, 2 special characters and 1 number spoken during this call." "Hello? Sir? I'll have to add a dialtone charge to your bill....." ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1994 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:06:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03395 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 16:21:44 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03131; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 15:57:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 15:57:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03121; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 15:57:37 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id PAA02371; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 15:52:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 15:52:10 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Karl Yeanoplos Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Thinkpad: cat's tongue In-Reply-To: <9501181839.AA08175@amazon.den.mmc.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Jan 1995, Karl Yeanoplos wrote: > Also, was there any resolution on whether or not there is enough interest > to place a group order? I'll take a set (the unit itself came with a pack of 2 black and 2 red) if it's under $10. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1994 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:06:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07738 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 16:31:37 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04355; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 16:11:29 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 16:11:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04342; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 16:11:24 -0500 Received: from America.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQxzgm13934; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 16:10:26 -0500 Received: from 10forward.ppp by America.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AB27610; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 16:09:25 +0500 Message-Id: <9501182109.AB27610@America.com> X-Sender: richh@america.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 16:01:15 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: richh@enterprise.America.com (Richard Holtz) Subject: TP755, Faxworks and Organizer We are working to get the people at Faxworks to recognize that other PIM's such as Organizer version 2, Winfax 4 and Act 2.03 exist. They keep saying go to IBM who in my impression is blind to the fact that people on occasion use other than the preloaded software and certainly do upgrade there software. The supplied version of Faxworks which is needed to make the mwave telephony work is looking for Winfax 2.5 data or bombs looking for tzdll.dll as organizer 1.0 file. Anyone know of a small device that we might use to put under our collegues at Faxworks or IBM to recognize these types of issues??? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Richard Holtz RRH Associates Home Control(Automation)and Building Control Systems Consultants Tel: 904 676 2725 Cell FlipPhone: 904 679 4851 FAX: 904 676 0237 internet: richh@america.com Compuserve: Used when we are in the field: 76507.2222@compuserve.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:06:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27734 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:17:13 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08971; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:02:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:02:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08955; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:02:34 -0500 Received: from lochness.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20537; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 16:01:54 -0600 Received: by lochness.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA51985; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 16:01:53 -0600 From: rol@uhc.com (Roleigh Martin) Message-Id: <9501182201.AA51985@lochness.uhc.com> Subject: Re: Thinkpad: cat's tongue (fwd) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (IBM 750 newsgroup) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 16:01:53 -0600 (CST) Cc: ibm-tp500@virginia.edu (thinkpad 500 list group) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do these work on the Thinkpad 500? And what does Donald mean "(the unit itself came with a ...)" I don't remember ever un- packing any with the 750's and 755's or 500's that we have got. Forwarded message: > > On Wed, 18 Jan 1995, Karl Yeanoplos wrote: > > > Also, was there any resolution on whether or not there is enough interest > > to place a group order? > > I'll take a set (the unit itself came with a pack of 2 black and 2 red) > if it's under $10. > > ======================================================================== > Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science > Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1994 > GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ > I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. > ======================================================================== > > -- Roleigh Martin, Rt. MN06-6130 Opinions are mine not UHC | UHC, Advanced Technology AT&T/vmail: (612) 945-6529| 9705 Data Park Drive FAX: (612) 945-6502| Minnetonka, MN 55343 Email: rol@lochness.uhc.com| ** B'days are good for health ** Statistics show that people with most b'days live the longest When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:06:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01966 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:29:44 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09977; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:16:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:16:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09967; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:16:35 -0500 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 3383; Wed, 18 Jan 95 17:16:25 EST Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 7315; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:16:25 EST Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Wed, 18 Jan 95 17:16:25 EST Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA26224; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:16:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:16:26 -0500 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9501182216.AA26224@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Karl Yeanoplos's message of Wed, 18 Jan 95 11:39:42 MST <9501181839.AA08175@amazon.den.mmc.com> Subject: Thinkpad: cat's tongue >Anyone have the IBM part number for the new textured TrackPoint caps >(cat's tongue)? My sources tell me that the part no. is 84G6536 - $15.50 per package To order: 1-800-388-7087--they take credit cards. Expect a 15-30 day backorder. Sorry, I don't know how many come in a package. --andy From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:06:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06940 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:42:20 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11858; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:38:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:38:56 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pelican.cit.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11848; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:38:55 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by pelican.cit.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03chaos) id AA28392; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:38:53 -0500 Message-Id: <9501182238.AA28392@pelican.cit.cornell.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5.3 12/28/94 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP 755 reference manual In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 18 Jan 1995 11:39:42 MST." <9501181839.AA08175@amazon.den.mmc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:38:53 -0500 From: Bob Cowles Does anyone have the file from late last November or December that gave the ordering information for the TP 755/755C hardware manual? My wife thought she ordered it for me for Christmas, but it still hasn't shown up. (Unfortunately, I deep sixed the original file). She tried to call somewhere in IBM to find out the status of the order .... well, I got several calls about how frustrating it was to deal with people who didn't know anything except how to route you off to yet another number. I just read her the "Lexmark Dialog" that was posted, and she really loved it ... She suggested to the person on the other end of the phone that it was no way to run a business and asked if they ever got complaints. She was told that they get complaints all the time and they get passed on to management, but nothing ever happens. Sorry for unloading, but sometimes it's REAL frustrating to deal with IBM. Bob Cowles From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:06:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07908 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:44:47 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11209; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:31:30 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:31:28 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rigel by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11199; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:31:25 -0500 Received: from leonardo.lmt.com by rigel with SMTP id AA28170 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 16:35:23 -0600 Received: from LEONARDO/SMTPQUEUE by leonardo.lmt.com (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 18 Jan 95 16:35:07 GMT-6 Received: from SMTPQUEUE by LEONARDO (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 18 Jan 95 16:34:51 GMT-6 From: "Chris Schumann" Organization: LaserMaster Technologies R&D Divn. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 16:34:49 CST6CDT Subject: Re: Thinkpad: cat's tongue (fwd) Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <4B985545F06@leonardo.lmt.com> Do these work on the Thinkpad 500? And what does Donald mean "(the unit itself came with a ...)" I don't remember ever un- packing any with the 750's and 755's or 500's that we have got. Forwarded message: > > On Wed, 18 Jan 1995, Karl Yeanoplos wrote: > > Also, was there any resolution on whether or not there is enough interest > > to place a group order? > I'll take a set (the unit itself came with a pack of 2 black and 2 red) > if it's under $10. My ThinPad 750P came with three red and one black in a wee bag, along with the slotted PCMCIA cover. Chris From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:07:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14653 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:03:53 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13541; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:02:29 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:02:28 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from insosf1.infonet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13521; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:02:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (bpartner@localhost) by insosf1.infonet.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA14160 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:02:23 -0600 Received: from cc:Mail by bpartner.bpartners.dsm.ia.us id AA790475627 Wed, 18 Jan 95 16:33:47 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 16:33:47 From: "Derrick Sharpe" Message-Id: <9500187904.AA790475627@bpartner.bpartners.dsm.ia.us> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Introduction My name is Derrick Sharpe. I am a programmer for a company in Des Moines, IA that provides information via satelite. I have a tp750P (only ones available in qty at the time) with 20 Meg ram, 340 Meg drive, megahertz 14.4 ( soon to be 28.8), Dock1, and NEC3x. Using OS/2 Warp for operating sytem. Derrick Sharpe Broadcast Partners dsharpe@bpartners.dsm.ia.us From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:07:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15391 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:05:57 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12963; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:54:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:54:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cloud9.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12945; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:54:28 -0500 Received: by cloud9.net (8.6.9/940717-Cloud 9 Internet) id RAA16469; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:54:25 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:54:24 -0500 (EST) From: Jon Bauer To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Megahertz problem. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've got a kind of strange problem. Maybe someone can help with the answer. I have a TP720 (ok, I know it is notthe 720 list, but there is no 720 list! this will probably apply anyway) and a Megahertz modem. The modem works fine if I 1st go into Windows and access Terminal. I can then go back to DOS and run a DOS based terminal program or access the modem. If I don't access the modem through Windows first, I can't use the modem. Any ideas? Need further detail? - Thanx in advance for any help. - Jon From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:07:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16524 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:09:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13946; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:10:05 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:10:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13924; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:09:58 -0500 Received: from [192.70.249.42] (mac42.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA12847; Wed, 18 Jan 95 18:09:52 EST Message-Id: <9501182309.AA12847@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 19:14:45 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: Thinkpad: cat's tongue >>Anyone have the IBM part number for the new textured TrackPoint caps >>(cat's tongue)? > >My sources tell me that the part no. is > >84G6536 - $15.50 per package > >To order: 1-800-388-7087--they take credit cards. Expect a 15-30 day >backorder. > >Sorry, I don't know how many come in a package. They probably charge $15.40 for that information:) ------------------------------------------------------------ Victor Kress Carnegie Institution of Washington, Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 ------------------------------------------------------------ From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:07:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20502 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:23:32 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15105; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:22:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:22:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15093; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:22:51 -0500 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA08471; Wed, 18 Jan 95 16:20:58 MST Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 16:20:58 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9501182320.AA08471@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: stevens@watson.ibm.com Subject: Re: Thinkpad: cat's tongue Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > My sources tell me that the part no. is > 84G6536 - $15.50 per package > To order: 1-800-388-7087--they take credit cards. Expect a 15-30 day > backorder. Thanks for the info, Andy. I called the number you listed above, and here is what I was told: The $15.50 package price is for three (3) caps, two red and one black. Expected delivery time is 5-10 days. They do not offer any kind of a group discount, so I guess it's every man for himself. Thanks again to Andy for doing the legwork on this... -key _________________________________________________________________ Karl E. Yeanoplos | kyeanopl@den.mmc.com Martin Marietta Corp. | P.O. Box 179/M.S. 5451 | Compuserve: 73741,453 Denver, CO. 80201 | From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:07:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02546 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 19:02:54 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16789; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:52:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:52:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16780; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:52:45 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id SAA29031; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:50:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199501182350.SAA29031@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: Bob Cowles Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP 755 reference manual In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:38:53 EST." <9501182238.AA28392@pelican.cit.cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:49:53 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > Does anyone have the file from late last November or December that > gave the ordering information for the TP 755/755C hardware manual? I've had good luck calling the following number: IBM help desk/pubs. (800) 879-2755 Every time I've called them, I've had to spend some time talking to them getting the person there to search around for what I wanted. But they've always been courteous, and they've never charged a fee :) p.s. I'm not sure exactly what manual you were looking for, but I just obtained the part number of the 355/360/755 technical reference manual >from them. (this is probably more toward how to program it and what the connectors look like than how to take one apart and what the internal part numbers are.) Part number is S83G-7843; price is US$22.75. It took about 10 minutes of discussion before the person found it. Keith From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:07:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06367 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 19:16:53 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17997; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 19:16:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 19:16:12 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rigel by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17987; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 19:16:09 -0500 Received: from leonardo.lmt.com by rigel with SMTP id AA29931 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:20:21 -0600 Received: from LEONARDO/SMTPQUEUE by leonardo.lmt.com (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 18 Jan 95 18:20:02 GMT-6 Received: from SMTPQUEUE by LEONARDO (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 18 Jan 95 18:19:32 GMT-6 From: "Chris Schumann" Organization: LaserMaster Technologies R&D Divn. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:19:28 CST6CDT Subject: Re: Introduction Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <4BB44034045@leonardo.lmt.com> > My name is Derrick Sharpe. I am a programmer for a company in > Des Moines, IA that provides information via satelite. I have a > tp750P (only ones available in qty at the time) with 20 Meg ram, > 340 Meg drive, megahertz 14.4 ( soon to be 28.8), Dock1, and > NEC3x. Using OS/2 Warp for operating sytem. > > Derrick Sharpe > dsharpe@bpartners.dsm.ia.us WOO! Finally another 750P owner. Welcome Derrick. Of course my 750P is puny and small: 4MB RAM, no cd-rom, no dock, but I do have a MHz 14.4 modem. Since I have this small RAM issue, I still use IBM-DOS and Windows, and am pretty happy with the results. Chris From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:07:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28614 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 20:38:50 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21797; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 20:36:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 20:36:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from guest.apple.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21787; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 20:36:34 -0500 Received: by guest.apple.com (5.64/8-Feb-1993-eef) id AA14159; Wed, 18 Jan 95 17:36:27 PST for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 17:36:27 PST From: Stuart McDonald Message-Id: <9501190136.AA14159@guest.apple.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Introduction (another) Hi. My name is Stuart McDonald. I am one of the co-authors of the 4.3BSD UNIX math libraries. I have a tp755CD 16/810. Yes, they _finally_ are shipping! I got mine a couple of days ago after ordering one directly >from IBM the day they announced it. I might add, I have been saving up for a third-generation ThinkPad ever since seeing my first-generation TP many years ago. I'm a newbie to TP, DOS, Windows, etc. having worked on the Mac & UNIX for many years, but the color display and hardware floating-point with greater range & precision than IEEE double won me over. I have only purchased one(!) Windows app so far, CITY STREETS CD, which I hope to get working with a Trimble ScoutMaster GPS. I am not enamored with funding the Microsoft Empire, so will try to keep my Windows apps purchases to a minimum. I would prefer going the OS/2 Warp route, with the hopes that it would later converge on/with/to Taligent's CommonPoint. In a former lifetime, I was a Computer Graphics Consultant, and currently have a hobby in digital still photography, so I plan to put the video I/O to good use. It still amazes me that something with all the capabilites of a Mac Quadra 840av/CD can now be had in a color portable! -Stuart McDonald, email: stuart.mcdonald@na-net.ornl.gov From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:07:20 1995 Received: from faroe.vp.uiuc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09059 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 21:10:58 -0600 Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by faroe.vp.uiuc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19007; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 21:10:49 -0600 Received: from Virginia.EDU by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa01487; 18 Jan 95 21:55 EST Received: from anshar.shadow.net by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa01478; 18 Jan 95 21:54 EST Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id VAA26059; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 21:57:52 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 21:57:51 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Roleigh Martin Cc: IBM 750 newsgroup , thinkpad 500 list group Subject: Re: Thinkpad: cat's tongue (fwd) In-Reply-To: <9501182201.AA51985@lochness.uhc.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Jan 1995, Roleigh Martin wrote: > Do these work on the Thinkpad 500? And what does Donald mean > "(the unit itself came with a ...)" I don't remember ever un- > packing any with the 750's and 755's or 500's that we have got. My TP750 (one of the last shipped) came with a little packet of extra caps - as did my boss's 720. The red cap on the machine, two black caps and one extra red one. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1994 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:07:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18016 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 21:42:57 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26260; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 21:55:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 21:55:04 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26222; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 21:54:54 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id VAA26059; Wed, 18 Jan 1995 21:57:52 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 21:57:51 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Roleigh Martin Cc: IBM 750 newsgroup , thinkpad 500 list group Subject: Re: Thinkpad: cat's tongue (fwd) In-Reply-To: <9501182201.AA51985@lochness.uhc.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Jan 1995, Roleigh Martin wrote: > Do these work on the Thinkpad 500? And what does Donald mean > "(the unit itself came with a ...)" I don't remember ever un- > packing any with the 750's and 755's or 500's that we have got. My TP750 (one of the last shipped) came with a little packet of extra caps - as did my boss's 720. The red cap on the machine, two black caps and one extra red one. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1994 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Thu Jan 19 00:07:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22450 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Jan 1995 23:49:22 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05383; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 00:05:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 00:05:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05338; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 00:05:30 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id AAA29519; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 00:02:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199501190502.AAA29519@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: Jon Bauer Cc: moore@CS.UTK.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Megahertz problem. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:54:24 EST." Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 00:02:38 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > > I've got a kind of strange problem. Maybe someone can help with the > answer. I have a TP720 (ok, I know it is notthe 720 list, but there is > no 720 list! this will probably apply anyway) Maybe, maybe not. The 720 is a wierd bird. For example, it's a micro-channel machine (not ISA) and so there are a bunch of d*mn POS registers (love that name) that govern whether the devices (including the PCMCIA controller) appear on the system bus. My TP720 tech ref manual says that the enable bit in the POS register for PCMCIA is zero on power up, meaning that the PCMCIA subsystem is *disabled* by default. > and a Megahertz modem. The > modem works fine if I 1st go into Windows and access Terminal. I can > then go back to DOS and run a DOS based terminal program or access the > modem. If I don't access the modem through Windows first, I can't use > the modem. @begin(theory) You didn't say what kind of drivers you have installed under DOS, but my guess is that of the Windows drivers is turning on the PCMCIA system for you. If so, then it is indeed a TP720 specific problem. In addition to the POS registers, the PCMCIA subsystem also requires its own initialization, say, to map a modem card into the i/o bus as a COM2 port. Again, you might have a Windows driver that will do this for you, whereas it wouldn't happen under DOS alone. Depending on what PCMCIA controller chip the TP720 uses (the tech ref manual is silent on the subject) this problem might or might not be specific to the TP720. @end(theory) Disclaimer: I don't have a TP720 any more, so I don't really know much about them. Keith Moore From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 01:05:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12790 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 Jan 1995 01:32:57 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10940; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 01:54:35 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 01:54:34 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from luyou by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10923; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 01:54:05 -0500 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by luyou (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id OAA13678 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 14:52:14 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199501190652.OAA13678@luyou> Subject: Re: Cat's tongue.. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 14:52:14 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text ``..Karl Yeanoplos writes, ` The $15.50 package price is for three (3) caps, two red and one black. ` Expected delivery time is 5-10 days. ``..Andrew Stevens writes, ` My sources tell me that the part no. is ` 84G6536 - $15.50 per package ` To order: 1-800-388-7087--they take credit cards. Expect a 15-30 day ` backorder. No such luck here in Singapore. Maybe if I just mention the part number without describing what it is.. Mail order from US will be absurd, costing US15.50++. Anyways thanks for the info and the part number. Cheers. ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong iss nus mlp program From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 01:05:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29355 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 Jan 1995 10:08:42 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22330; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 09:59:36 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 09:59:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cloud9.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22299; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 09:59:23 -0500 Received: by cloud9.net (8.6.9/940717-Cloud 9 Internet) id JAA13135; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 09:59:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 09:59:20 -0500 (EST) From: Jon Bauer To: Keith Moore Cc: moore@CS.UTK.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Megahertz problem. In-Reply-To: <199501190502.AAA29519@wilma.cs.utk.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > I've got a kind of strange problem. Maybe someone can help with the > > answer. I have a TP720 (ok, I know it is notthe 720 list, but there is > > no 720 list! this will probably apply anyway) > > Maybe, maybe not. The 720 is a wierd bird. For example, it's a > micro-channel machine (not ISA) and so there are a bunch of d*mn POS > registers (love that name) that govern whether the devices (including > the PCMCIA controller) appear on the system bus. My TP720 tech ref > manual says that the enable bit in the POS register for PCMCIA is zero > on power up, meaning that the PCMCIA subsystem is *disabled* by > default. That makes sense. > > and a Megahertz modem. The > > modem works fine if I 1st go into Windows and access Terminal. I can > > then go back to DOS and run a DOS based terminal program or access the > > modem. If I don't access the modem through Windows first, I can't use > > the modem. > > @begin(theory) > > You didn't say what kind of drivers you have installed under DOS, but > my guess is that of the Windows drivers is turning on the PCMCIA > system for you. If so, then it is indeed a TP720 specific problem. I have all of the PCMCIA socket software loading in the CONFIG, and I run the Megahertz setup program to tell the tp that I have the MHZ modem in slot 2, and want to set it up as COM2. > In addition to the POS registers, the PCMCIA subsystem also requires > its own initialization, say, to map a modem card into the i/o bus as a > COM2 port. Again, you might have a Windows driver that will do this > for you, whereas it wouldn't happen under DOS alone. Depending on > what PCMCIA controller chip the TP720 uses (the tech ref manual is > silent on the subject) this problem might or might not be specific to > the TP720. I think that the Megahertz driver should initialize the PCMCIA port. Here's something that left me scratching my head: After I run the Megahertz DOS executable, I thought I'd try to set-up the port with the mode command, so my autoexec looks like this: @ECHO OFF PROMPT etc. MEGAHZ s2c2 (for slot 2, port 2) MODE COM2:9600,8,n,1 PAUSE On that mode command, I get an error that says that the port is invalid, BUT if I control-c out at this point (note the pause) and then type the same command from dos (the mode command) it works perfectly! The other strange thing, is that I tried using a DOS communication program again last night without going into Windows 1st and it worked flawlessly. Maybe I somehow "turned on" the PCMCIA subsystem permanently now? Man, this stuff is flaky. - Jon From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 01:05:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08550 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 Jan 1995 10:28:58 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23864; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 10:18:43 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 10:18:42 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23854; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 10:18:39 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA21331; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 09:18:36 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 10:19:08 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <37149.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Cat's tongue.. In message Thu, 19 Jan 1995 14:52:14 +0800 (WAUST), Kevin Cheong writes: > No such luck here in Singapore. Maybe if I just mention the part number > without describing what it is.. Mail order from US will be absurd, costing > US15.50++. Anyways thanks for the info and the part number. Cheers. These things are ridiculously small for the price. Why not get someone in the U.S. to order for you, slip them in another envelope, and mail them to you in Singapore? I can't imagine three of them weighing more than a fraction of an ounce so they'd go under the same postal rate as a letter. Of course Singapore customs might confiscate them as some obscene sex toy. :-) _____________________________________________________________________ |\ ____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "God knows what she could've gotten my mother to say." | | | jokim@mit.edu - Bill Clinton to Newt Gingrich, on Connie Chung | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu jokim@tuna.mit.edu does not work (yet) | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 01:05:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21481 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 Jan 1995 10:59:10 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24755; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 10:29:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 10:29:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24745; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 10:29:21 -0500 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA08604; Thu, 19 Jan 95 08:28:46 MST Date: Thu, 19 Jan 95 08:28:46 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9501191528.AA08604@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: OS/2: IBM's response to slow mouse tracking speed After all of Scott Stratmoen's (generally unsuccessful) efforts to get RODENT.SYS up and running on a TP, I thought everyone might get a kick out of this. Below is IBM's response to my request for an alternative mouse driver for use under OS/2: > Below is the response received from the OS/2 > Technical Support Staff on PMR 8x205. > Please let us know when this PMR can be closed. > ---------------------------------------------------- > There is RODENT10.ZIP that might help, it is available on the OS/2 > > > shareware BBS at 703-385-4325. > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Thanks. > OS/2 Defect Support, CIS Oh, well....at least they didn't try to charge me for this tidbit! - key _________________________________________________________________ Karl E. Yeanoplos | kyeanopl@den.mmc.com Martin Marietta Corp. | P.O. Box 179/M.S. 5451 | Compuserve: 73741,453 Denver, CO. 80201 | From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 01:05:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00993 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 Jan 1995 12:22:24 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04176; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 12:08:46 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 12:08:44 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom12.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04166; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 12:08:42 -0500 Received: by netcom12.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id MAA23569; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 12:07:49 -0500 From: gvaeth@netcom.com (Greg Vaeth at General Instrument) Message-Id: <199501191707.MAA23569@netcom12.netcom.com> Subject: TP755C/CE differences? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 12:07:49 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, After browsing the laptop newsgroup I am wondering if I shoud have ordered a 755CE instead of the 755C (was "recommended" by IS dept). Could someone summarize differences or point me to a FAQ or other resource? (the item that caught my eye in the usenet post was the difference in sound capability). I have not received the C yet, so it may not be too late to change the order. Thanks. Regards, Greg -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gregory Vaeth snailnet: internet: gvaeth@netcom.com General Instrument gvaeth@gic.gi.com ------ __o __o Communications Division voicenet: (215) 956-6488 ----- _`\<,_ _`\<,_ 2200 Byberry Road faxnet: (215) 675-4059 ----- (*)/ (*) (*)/ (*) Hatboro, PA 19040 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ finger for PGP public key PGP key fingerprint = 7D 0D DB 97 F9 7C 67 1B DB D7 4E 83 BE 5F CC 77 My opinions are my own, and do not represent those of my employer. From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 01:05:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13771 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 Jan 1995 13:51:03 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11038; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 13:37:50 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 13:37:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11027; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 13:37:44 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA25281; Thu, 19 Jan 95 10:37:39 PST Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1(1/24/94)/SMI-4.1) id AA11528; Thu, 19 Jan 95 10:37:37 PST Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA00538; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 10:37:36 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA28299; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 10:37:41 -0800 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 10:37:41 -0800 From: cmcmanis@scndprsn.eng.sun.com (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9501191837.AA28299@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: gvaeth@netcom.com Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII The 755C is a 750C with a faster processor, it cannot be upgraded to a 755CD. The 755CE has a new motherboard and a new sound subsystem. The sound subsystem uses IBMs "MWave" DSP sound chip that can, among other things, act as a 28.8K modem (this saves you a PCMCIA slot). Allegedly (and I've not confirmed this) the MWave chip is also _register_ compatible with the Sound Blaster so many more DOS tools work out of the box without the generally unreliable sound blaster emulator driver. Finally the CE, unlike the C can take video *in* and display it on your screen. This is due to an enhanced LCD display that can display 64K colors simultaneously, to the 755C's 256. --Chuck From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 01:05:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26396 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 Jan 1995 15:19:46 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14445; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 14:27:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 14:27:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ub-gate.UB.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14430; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 14:27:33 -0500 Received: from garfield (garfield.UB.com) by ub-gate.UB.com (4.1/SMI-4.1[UB-1.9.1]) id AA06461; Thu, 19 Jan 95 11:26:53 PST Received: from smtp.UB.com ([128.203.7.39]) by garfield (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13875; Thu, 19 Jan 95 11:26:35 PST Received: by smtp.UB.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.0)/1.2) id AA1897; Thu, 19 Jan 95 11:27:40 -0800 Message-Id: <9501191927.AA1897@smtp.UB.com> Received: from UB with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 066B33FD5FB4CFD885256149006AA390; Thu, 19 Jan 95 11:27:39 To: tp750 From: Ken Yee/UB Networks Date: 19 Jan 95 14:25:32 EDT Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain > act as a 28.8K modem (this saves you a PCMCIA slot). Allegedly (and I've > not confirmed this) the MWave chip is also _register_ compatible with > the Sound Blaster so many more DOS tools work out of the box without the IBM licensed this from Creative Labs and there have been reports that Doom works fine. > generally unreliable sound blaster emulator driver. Finally the CE, unlike > the C can take video *in* and display it on your screen. This is due to an I thought this was just on the CD? ken From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 01:05:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26535 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 Jan 1995 15:20:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16146; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 14:47:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 14:47:04 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16132; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 14:47:02 -0500 Received: from @hooked.net (webe.hooked.net [199.2.134.9]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA16904 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 11:46:52 -0800 Message-Id: <199501191946.LAA16904@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 11:53:04 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: 755CE Video (was TP755C/CE differences?) >Finally the CE, unlike >the C can take video *in* and display it on your screen. I've been wondering about that video in. Can it be captured for use in something like premeire? >This is due to an >enhanced LCD display that can display 64K colors simultaneously, to the >755C's 256. I thought the 755c was already 16bit? It's only 8? -- _________________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 01:06:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09928 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 Jan 1995 15:47:32 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17256; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 15:01:11 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 15:01:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17244; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 15:01:08 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA06935; Thu, 19 Jan 95 12:00:37 PST Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1(1/24/94)/SMI-4.1) id AA24067; Thu, 19 Jan 95 12:00:33 PST Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA00743; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 12:00:31 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA24933; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 12:00:37 -0800 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 12:00:37 -0800 From: cmcmanis@scndprsn.eng.sun.com (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9501192000.AA24933@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, Ken_Yee@UB.com Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sorry I misread the "755 Notebook" (which is IBM's promo material) the CE does _NOT_ have the video in/out but does have the enhanced color display. Basically you get a CE for the better sound and the better color. --Chuck From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 01:06:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18439 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 Jan 1995 17:05:14 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25680; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 16:39:07 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 16:39:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25670; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 16:38:54 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu by snapple.engr.wisc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.10G/31) id AA081371454; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 15:37:35 -0600 Message-Id: <199501192137.AA081371454@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 15:37:43 -0600 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? > >Sorry I misread the "755 Notebook" (which is IBM's promo material) the >CE does _NOT_ have the video in/out but does have the enhanced color display. > >Basically you get a CE for the better sound and the better color. > >--Chuck over the 755C, the CE also has (so says the literature; i personally have not experienced a CE, i own a 750C): * wireless infrared to transfer files to/from other infrared devices. this includes other new thinkpads, sharp wizards, various PIMs with optional infrared like newtons, etc. soon there will be several "infrared connectors" for printers, etc. no more cables. * "black matrix" LCD screen, which supposedly allows you to easily view the screen in outdoor sunlight (the active matrix on the 750C & 755C is excellent but it is very hard to use outdoors) * improved Trackpoint III * 1.44 disk drive (vs the 2.88 in the 750 & 755C) * internal strero speakers (the 750/755C have a stereo output jack but only one speaker internal) * DX4/100 and the major previously mentioned features: * 65,000 simultanous colors (vs 256) * Mwave DSP chip, which supposedly gives: 1. true 100% Soundblaster register-level compatibility for DOS apps (the 750/755C sound is very good, but is not Soundblaster compatible for DOS-extender games, which is unfortunately most of the new DOS games out there. basically, the 750/755C sound is only compatible/usefull for native Windows & OS/2 apps, cause they have hardware-abstration drivers). 2. WAVETABLE sound. i.e. better than FM synthesis. i.e. sounds much better than a soundblaster or soundblaster 16. 3. emulates a 28.8 modem. saves you from having to purchase one and use a pcmcia slot. --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 01:06:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04197 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 Jan 1995 17:47:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00660; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 17:39:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 17:39:03 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix3.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00650; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 17:39:01 -0500 Received: by panix3.panix.com id AA17634 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 19 Jan 1995 17:38:57 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 17:38:55 -0500 (EST) From: Michael MacDonald To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? In-Reply-To: <9501191927.AA1897@smtp.UB.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 19 Jan 1995, Ken Yee/UB Networks wrote: > > act as a 28.8K modem (this saves you a PCMCIA slot). Allegedly (and I've > > not confirmed this) the MWave chip is also _register_ compatible with > > the Sound Blaster so many more DOS tools work out of the box without the > IBM licensed this from Creative Labs and there have been reports > that Doom works fine. As an owner of a TP755CE and Doom, I can confirm that it sounds great. Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 01:06:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09974 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 Jan 1995 20:02:20 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08916; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 19:49:11 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 19:49:09 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08906; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 19:49:07 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rV7Vg-0004tfC; Thu, 19 Jan 95 18:47 CST Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rV7Vg-0002nbC; Thu, 19 Jan 95 18:47 CST Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rV7Ve-000BgkC; Thu, 19 Jan 95 18:47 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: OS/2: IBM's response to slow mouse tracking speed To: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 18:47:26 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9501191528.AA08604@amazon.den.mmc.com> from "Karl Yeanoplos" at Jan 19, 95 08:28:46 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > After all of Scott Stratmoen's (generally unsuccessful) efforts to > get RODENT.SYS up and running on a TP, I thought everyone might get > a kick out of this. Below is IBM's response to my request for an > alternative mouse driver for use under OS/2: I would point out that I have been running Rodent.sys for well over a week now with no problems. The author states that the latest version of the driver should solve the problem which I reported in my last message on this subject (i.e. trap E when loading with the TCP/IP network software). When I get the latest version of the driver tested I will report on my results. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 01:06:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25721 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 Jan 1995 20:59:51 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12252; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 20:54:07 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 20:54:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12242; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 20:54:05 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id RAA12266 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 17:53:57 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id RAA22183 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 17:53:48 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199501200153.RAA22183@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Practical Peripherals PCMCIA card modem? To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 17:53:47 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have corresponded with a gentleman that was also interested (as was I) in getting an XJack-type PCMCIA modem in the 28.8K speeds. He bought one, I have not. Now it appears he wants to move on to different toys. Anyone with any comments on the Practical Peripherals line of PCMCIA modems and their compatibility with the ThinkPads and Easy-Play software? I have a 750C and I wanted something like this, but I was looking more toward Megahertz--problem is that Megahertz supports V.34 but not V.FC (my USC Internet connection is V.FC but not V.34). I look forward to any and all comments. Thanks! Forwarded message: > Remember we were talking about 28.8 PCMCIA modems? > > I might have one forsale! it's the Practical Peripherals 28.8 V.34 and > V.FC modem with EZPort (just like Xjack) all for $299, that includes > FedEx shipping. save $75, it's brand new (you know when I bought it), > selling it because I'm selling my laptop to buy a new toy, a sony > playstation. ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 01:06:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11339 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 Jan 1995 21:54:25 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14790; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 21:50:11 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 21:50:09 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from maple.enet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14774; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 21:50:06 -0500 Received: from ROVER.enet.net (slip26.enet.net [198.60.143.26]) by maple.enet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA16124 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 19:49:47 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 95 19:45:25 PST From: sgross@enet.net Subject: PCMCIA Modem FS To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have my original IBM High Speed Data Fax Modem (14.4) for sale. I bought a HP 200LX with a Megahertz X-Jack and I am using the MHZ on both the TP and the HP200LX. The IBM Modem is not compatible with the HP.... Offers? -steve From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 17:04:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11743 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 03:37:42 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03018; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 03:52:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 03:52:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from maily2.prodigy.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03007; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 03:52:55 -0500 Received: from inetgate.prodigy.com (inetgate.prodigy.com [192.207.105.34]) by maily2.prodigy.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA51541 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 03:35:15 -0500 Received: from mail.prodigy.com by inetgate.prodigy.com with SMTP id AA25169 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 19 Jan 1995 23:08:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 23:08:36 EST From: VJFY58A@prodigy.com (MR WESLEY T DUNAWAY) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-308.52] Message-Id: <013.02944683.VJFY58A@prodigy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? -- [ From: Wesley T. Dunaway * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- > over the 755C, the CE also has (so says the literature; i personally have not experienced a > CE, i own a 750C): > > [stuff omitted] > > * 1.44 disk drive (vs the 2.88 in the 750 & 755C) I own a 750, so I can't speak from personal experience, but I seem to remember that the 755 also comes standard with the 1.44MB floppy. I think the two drives are interchangable, however. Wesley Dunaway (dunaway@s9000.furman.edu) From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 17:04:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19172 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 04:19:25 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04918; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 04:24:36 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 04:24:34 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04907; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 04:24:32 -0500 Received: from @hooked.net (webe.hooked.net [199.2.134.9]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA17408 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 01:24:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199501200924.BAA17408@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 01:30:52 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? >I own a 750, so I can't speak from personal experience, but I seem to >remember that the 755 also comes standard with the 1.44MB floppy. I >think the two drives are interchangable, however. Yes, the 755 has a 14.4 -- _________________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 17:04:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20216 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 04:22:42 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05116; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 04:28:51 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 04:28:49 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from baijuyi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05106; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 04:28:46 -0500 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by baijuyi (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id RAA36518 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 17:26:41 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199501200926.RAA36518@baijuyi> Subject: PCMCIA sounds.. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 17:26:40 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text hi, i'm looking around for sound cards (PCMCIA format) for a tp360. any recommendations? preferably SB compatible. anyone tried sounds from Eiger Labs? need this for some voice recordings. can't afford the new machines with IBM DSP chips ): Ta! ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong iss nus mlp program From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 17:04:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05786 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 09:31:22 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22311; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 09:15:30 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 09:15:28 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dill.lcs.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22291; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 09:15:25 -0500 From: Received: by dill.lcs.mit.edu; id AA00587; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 09:15:16 -0500 Message-Id: <9501201415.AA00587@dill.lcs.mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: dmoore@dill.lcs.mit.edu Subject: I am also interested in PCMCIA 2.0 soundblaster card Date: Fri, 20 Jan 95 09:15:16 -0500 X-Mts: smtp I too am interested in a Soundblaster-compatible card for the PCMCIA 2.0 slot. Kevin - if you get any replies directly, could you post the information to the tp750 mailing list? Thanks, -Drew (tp755c) From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 17:04:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28716 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:28:18 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25176; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 09:50:20 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 09:50:17 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25156; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 09:50:15 -0500 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA01175; Fri, 20 Jan 95 07:49:40 MST Date: Fri, 20 Jan 95 07:49:40 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9501201449.AA01175@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: OS/2: IBM's response to slow mouse tracking speed >> After all of Scott Stratmoen's (generally unsuccessful) efforts to >> get RODENT.SYS up and running on a TP, I thought everyone might get >> a kick out of this. Below is IBM's response to my request for an >> alternative mouse driver for use under OS/2: > I would point out that I have been running Rodent.sys for well over a > week now with no problems. The author states that the latest version of > the driver should solve the problem which I reported in my last message > on this subject (i.e. trap E when loading with the TCP/IP network > software). Scott - What about the APM-related problem which reportedly caused the mouse to quit working following suspend/resume? Didn't the author of RODENT.SYS state that this is a known problem for which he has no intention of providing a fix? Don't get me wrong - I'm not trying to minimize what you've accomplished in striving to get this thing working. In fact, I'm really quite appreciative both for your efforts and the info you've provided to date. It's just that I consider the RODENT.SYS experiment generally unsuccessful if it results in a conflict between the mouse driver and the machine's APM functions. - key From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 17:04:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03868 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:40:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26733; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:12:26 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:12:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from post.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26720; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:12:19 -0500 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id ab10462; 20 Jan 95 14:29 GMT From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? Date: Fri, 20 Jan 95 13:10:43 GMT Message-Id: <9501201310.aa18674@hipass.filct.com> over the 755C, the CE also has (so says the literature; i personally have not experienced a CE, i own a 750C): * wireless infrared to transfer files to/from other infrared devices. this includes other new thinkpads, sharp wizards, various PIMs So what is the 755CSE? From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 17:04:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07695 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:49:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27922; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:28:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:28:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27911; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:28:35 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA11719; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 09:28:30 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:29:02 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <37743.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: I am also interested in PCMCIA 2.0 soundblaster card In message Fri, 20 Jan 95 09:15:16 -0500, writes: > I too am interested in a Soundblaster-compatible card for the PCMCIA 2.0 > slot. Kevin - if you get any replies directly, could you post the > information to the tp750 mailing list? Try comp.sys.laptops. There was a discussion there a couple months ago. Turns out one of the sound cards for games is SB compatible (i.e. works with Doom) and actually sounds pretty nice (16bit, stereo, midi, etc.). I don't remember the name. Be sure to report back to us if you find out. _____________________________________________________________________ |\ ____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "God knows what she could've gotten my mother to say." | | | jokim@mit.edu - Bill Clinton to Newt Gingrich, on Connie Chung | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu jokim@tuna.mit.edu does not work (yet) | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 17:04:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22885 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 11:20:34 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29710; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:47:41 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:47:40 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29689; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:47:36 -0500 Received: by chorus.chorus.fr; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 16:47:04 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 16:47:04 +0100 From: Stephane Eranian Message-Id: <199501201547.AA29284@chorus.chorus.fr> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Memory extension Card Prices. I have a TP360CSE for a few weeks. I plan to add memory because I will use my TP for Linux. So I called several computer shops here in France. As compared with the equivalent memory extensions for desktop computers, laptop ones are quite twice the price. I am looking for a 8MB or 16Mb extension. A 12 Mb may have been enough but It is not available on this laptop ! I have been proposed IBM IC DRAM clones from Taiwan. They have interesting prices, about half the price of the IBM equivalents. I was wondering, if somebody already ordered some of these. What about the quality of the product ? What kind of warranty ? Is Compatibnility 100% assumed ? What about dependability ? I managed to find 8MB clone for about 2900FFrs (VAT included), the 16Mb ones is at 6200FFR (VAT included). IBM equivalents rate at 4400FFR and 11000FFR respectively !!!! Thanks. PS: $1 = 6FFR !! -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 17:04:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26695 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 11:29:18 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02712; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 11:26:47 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 11:26:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay4.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02700; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 11:26:44 -0500 Received: from America.com by relay4.UU.NET with SMTP id QQxznd28277; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 11:26:35 -0500 Received: from holodeck.ppp.america.com by America.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA21090; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 11:25:32 +0500 Message-Id: <9501201625.AA21090@America.com> X-Sender: richh@america.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 11:16:15 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: richh@enterprise.America.com (Richard Holtz) Subject: MWave amd TP755 Is there an upgrade available for the dos/windows world for the TP755CE to make the mwave modem 28.8k V.34 compatable? One month into use of the TP755 says to me "I should have stiched to Thinkpads a long time ago" Super sweet machine....... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Richard Holtz RRH Associates Home Control(Automation)and Building Control Systems Consultants Tel: 904 676 2725 Cell FlipPhone: 904 679 4851 FAX: 904 676 0237 internet: richh@america.com Compuserve: Used when we are in the field: 76507.2222@compuserve.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 17:04:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04554 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:52:07 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07348; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:31:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:31:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dns004.ford.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07338; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:31:12 -0500 Received: from sun1.apo.ford.com (sun1.apo.ford.com [19.55.14.24]) by dns004.ford.com (8.6.7/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA16277 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:30:58 -0500 Received: from ren0010.so.ford.com ([19.90.82.53]) by sun1.apo.ford.com (5.0/Ford 2.0) via id AA08024; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:25:13 +0500 Received: from REN0010/PMAIL by ren0010.so.ford.com (Mercury 1.12); Fri, 20 Jan 95 12:29:41 +1100 Received: from PMAIL by REN0010 (Mercury 1.11); Fri, 20 Jan 95 12:29:39 +1100 From: "Adam Wilkinson" To: richh@enterprise.America.com (Richard Holtz), TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:29:38 EST Subject: Re: MWave amd TP755 Reply-To: awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com X-Confirm-Reading-To: awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <215A4075547@ren0010.so.ford.com> IBM is supposedly working on it. I believe that it's currently available for OS/2. -- Adam Lee Wilkinson Portable Computing Technology Specialist Ford Motor Co. - Marketing & Sales Systems awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 17:04:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08076 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:59:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07203; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:30:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:30:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay3.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07188; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:30:06 -0500 Received: from America.com by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQxzni22480; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:30:10 -0500 Received: from holodeck.ppp.america.com by America.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA23706; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:29:15 +0500 Message-Id: <9501201729.AA23706@America.com> X-Sender: richh@america.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:19:51 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: richh@enterprise.America.com (Richard Holtz) Subject: MWave amd TP755 ( with corrected spelling) Is there an upgrade available for the dos/windows world for the TP755CE to make the mwave modem 28.8k V.34 compatable? One month into use of the TP755 says to me "I should have switched to Thinkpads a long time ago" Super sweet machine....... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Richard Holtz RRH Associates Home Control(Automation)and Building Control Systems Consultants Tel: 904 676 2725 Cell FlipPhone: 904 679 4851 FAX: 904 676 0237 internet: richh@america.com Compuserve: Used when we are in the field: 76507.2222@compuserve.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Richard Holtz RRH Associates Home Control(Automation)and Building Control Systems Consultants Tel: 904 676 2725 Cell FlipPhone: 904 679 4851 FAX: 904 676 0237 internet: richh@america.com Compuserve: Used when we are in the field: 76507.2222@compuserve.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 17:04:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08388 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:59:49 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07114; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:28:31 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:28:27 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UTKVM1.UTK.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07097; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:28:26 -0500 Received: from UTKVM1.BITNET by UTKVM1.UTK.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7341; Fri, 20 Jan 95 12:27:35 LCL Received: from MAINE.MAINE.EDU by UTKVM1.BITNET (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 4464; Fri, 20 Jan 95 12:27:35 LCL Received: from MAINE.MAINE.EDU (NJE origin WKINGS41@MAINE) by MAINE.MAINE.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with RFC822 id 3031; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:28:08 -0500 Message-Id: From: WKINGS41@maine.bitnet To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 20 Jan 95 12:28:00 EST help From ???@??? Fri Jan 20 17:04:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05702 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 14:59:52 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15232; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 14:35:35 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 14:35:34 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15205; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 14:35:29 -0500 From: Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA13686; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 14:36:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 14:36:07 -0500 Message-Id: <950120143602_7945245@aol.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Ram compatabilty for 700-755 There appears to be a question about whether dram cards are compatable between the different Thinkpad models in the 700-755 series. I had an 8 mg dram card designated for a 750C that worked fine in my 720. When I tried to use the card in my 755C it worked well at first, but then I had various minor problems. I called IBM and was told that dram cards are downward compatable. Meaning that a 755 card would work on 750 and lower model numbers. There may not be complete upward compatabilty as the specs modified slightly for the newer models. Meaning that a 720 card might not work on a 755. I was warned that this applies only to IBM products. Apparently, third party manufactured dram cards may or may not be compatable. My card was a third party product. The 750 card continues to work well in my 720. The new 755 dram card works well in my 755. Be warned I'm just a dumb lawyer with no real tech knowledge so the forgoing is only anecdotal info at best. David M. Grey From ???@??? Sat Jan 21 12:37:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26034 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 18:32:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28740; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 18:32:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 18:32:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28718; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 18:31:52 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA21890; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 17:31:46 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 18:32:18 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <66739.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Thinkpad AC adapter recall Just heard this on the radio. IBM is recalling certain AC adapters that shipped with the following models: TP360CS TP755C TP755CE TP755CD Number to call for more info is 1-800-238-9057 The affected adapters have part number AA19210. At this point a truck passed my room and I missed the rest of it. The above number might be incomplete. I've no idea what the problem is. _____________________________________________________________________ |\ ____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "God knows what she could've gotten my mother to say." | | | jokim@mit.edu - Bill Clinton to Newt Gingrich, on Connie Chung | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu jokim@tuna.mit.edu does not work (yet) | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Sat Jan 21 12:37:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21710 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 20:50:53 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05566; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 21:01:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 21:01:04 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05538; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 21:00:49 -0500 Subject: More details on Thinkpad AC Adapters To: TP750 Mailing List Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 21:00:24 -0500 (EST) From: Tim Tyhurst X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9501202100.aa19158@dogmead.excelsior.com> The Thinkpad AC adapter recall story appeared in clari.tw.computers today. The quick summary is that adapters with model number AA19210 that were sold after 1 Oct 1994 have an internal fault which could pose an electrical shock hazard. The defective adapters shipped with Thinkpad models 360CS, 755C, 755CE and 755CD. The phone number to contact IBM regarding the recall is 800-238-1967. From ???@??? Sat Jan 21 12:37:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27691 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 21:29:51 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01362; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 19:33:57 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 19:33:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01341; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 19:33:52 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu by snapple.engr.wisc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.10G/31) id AA149658341; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 18:32:21 -0600 Message-Id: <199501210032.AA149658341@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 18:32:40 -0600 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? > over the 755C, the CE also has (so says the literature; i personally > have not experienced a CE, i own a 750C): > * wireless infrared to transfer files to/from other infrared devices. > this includes other new thinkpads, sharp wizards, various PIMs > >So what is the 755CSE? > > The 755CsE is the dual-scan passive color screen model. The 755CE is active matrix color. (same idea as 750C -vs- 750Cs) -Todd =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Todd Tannenbaum email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Director of the Model Advanced Facility voice phone: (608) 262-3118 Computer-Aided Engineering Center FAX phone: (608) 265-4546 University of Wisconsin-Madison From ???@??? Sat Jan 21 12:37:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27735 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 21:30:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01359; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 19:33:57 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 19:33:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01342; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 19:33:52 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu by snapple.engr.wisc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.10G/31) id AA149678342; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 18:32:22 -0600 Message-Id: <199501210032.AA149678342@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 18:32:42 -0600 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: RE: I am also interested in PCMCIA 2.0 soundblaster card >In message Fri, 20 Jan 95 09:15:16 -0500, writes: > >> I too am interested in a Soundblaster-compatible card for the PCMCIA 2.0 >> slot. Kevin - if you get any replies directly, could you post the >> information to the tp750 mailing list? > >Try comp.sys.laptops. There was a discussion there a couple months ago. >Turns out one of the sound cards for games is SB compatible (i.e. works >with Doom) and actually sounds pretty nice (16bit, stereo, midi, etc.). >I don't remember the name. Be sure to report back to us if you find out. > i've always heard that with the current PCMCIA standard it is impossible to build a 100% compatible Sound Blaster PCMCIA card. the reason for the is the Sound Blaster uses DMA, and the current PCMCIA slots do not support DMA...... -Todd =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Todd Tannenbaum email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Director of the Model Advanced Facility voice phone: (608) 262-3118 Computer-Aided Engineering Center FAX phone: (608) 265-4546 University of Wisconsin-Madison From ???@??? Sat Jan 21 12:37:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00448 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 21:50:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01960; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 19:50:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 19:50:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01947; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 19:49:59 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA22951; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 18:49:55 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 19:49:50 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <71430.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Thinkpad AC adapter recall More info off Associated Press - correct phone number: 1-800-238-1967 (sounds close to "ninety-fifty-seven" :-) The model number on the previous post is correct. In addition, the unit must have been sold after Oct. 1, 1994. The adapter has an "internal fault." _____________________________________________________________________ |\ ____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "God knows what she could've gotten my mother to say." | | | jokim@mit.edu - Bill Clinton to Newt Gingrich, on Connie Chung | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu jokim@tuna.mit.edu does not work (yet) | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Sat Jan 21 12:37:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00894 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 Jan 1995 21:53:52 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09095; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 22:08:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 22:08:09 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from corcomsv.corcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09085; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 22:08:06 -0500 Received: from spellppp.corcom.com by corcomsv.corcom.com with SMTP (5.65/1.2-eef) id AA29718; Fri, 20 Jan 95 18:08:02 -0900 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 95 17:45:47 AST From: Duane Spellecacy Subject: Introduction To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, >how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), >and what operating system(s) you are using. (send this to the LIST >address -- don't just reply to this message!) Well, being asked to introduce myself or my TP, here I go. The system I am using is a TP750Ce with 12Megs of RAM and a 340 Meg drive. The operating system I have installed is PC-DOS 6.3 with Windows 3.11 (not workgroups). I have the Microsoft standard Office package loaded (word, excel, powerpoint) along with a few other toys. I'm using Procomm 2 for Windows as my basic comm package and its drving a PPI 14.4 PCMCIA modem which so far has been great. Oh ya, I support computers for a living and this tp is what I pack around with when I'm out in the field. I think I remember someone else saying they thought the ThinkPads were "Sweet Machines", I have to agree. ------------------------------------- Duane Spellecacy spellppp@pop.corcom.com ------------------------------------- From ???@??? Sat Jan 21 12:38:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04239 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 21 Jan 1995 12:05:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18303; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 12:13:41 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 12:13:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from TP_Steve.shosmer.slip.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18291; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 12:13:35 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by TP_Steve.shosmer.slip.netcom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA00360; Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:15:26 -0800 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:15:26 -0800 From: root Subject: Re: Megahertz problem. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It sounds like you need to issue a mode statement. Your DOS software is probably not setting up the com port baud rate. Try (depending on your DOS ver) "mode comX: baud=xxxx Stephen Hosmer hosmer@ibm.net On Wed, 18 Jan 1995, Jon Bauer wrote: > > I've got a kind of strange problem. Maybe someone can help with the > answer. I have a TP720 (ok, I know it is notthe 720 list, but there is > no 720 list! this will probably apply anyway) and a Megahertz modem. The > modem works fine if I 1st go into Windows and access Terminal. I can > then go back to DOS and run a DOS based terminal program or access the > modem. If I don't access the modem through Windows first, I can't use > the modem. > > Any ideas? Need further detail? > > - Thanx in advance for any help. > - Jon > > > > > From ???@??? Sun Jan 22 19:40:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22281 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 21 Jan 1995 20:16:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14243; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 20:30:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 20:30:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14233; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 20:30:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199501220130.UAA14233@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23043; Sat, 21 Jan 95 20:30:30 -0500 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 95 20:30:30 -0500 From: Chris Hanson To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: two configuration problems I have two separate configuration problems that I'd appreciate some help on: 1. Has anyone gotten GTAR/GTAK 2.43 to work with a Dock II under OS/2 Warp? I've tried numerous configurations and been unable to get the tape drivers to work. Part of the problem is that I've found the documentation to be cryptic at best, and I really don't know how to read between the lines (my experience with SCSI is limited to unix platforms). 2. I'm helping a colleague set up a new Sigma Data 810MB drive for his ThinkPad, and I've been unable to get the disk to boot. Specifically, I can boot off floppies, and then format, partition, read and write the drive without any trouble. But when I try to boot off the disk after installing the operating system, I get the error message Unable to load operating system from startup disk. However, the same 755C runs fine when I put the original 540MB drive in it. This error message appears to come from the boot ROM, because it is the same when the entire disk is formatted as a single DOS volume, or when the disk is partitioned and OS/2 boot manager is installed. In the latter case it can't even boot the boot manager. BTW, my boot ROM is at revision 1.15, so that can be ruled out as the trouble. Anyway, I hope someone has some ideas about these problems -- I've about run out. Thanks in advance. From ???@??? Sun Jan 22 19:40:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29639 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 21 Jan 1995 20:55:15 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16959; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 21:14:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 21:14:32 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay4.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16948; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 21:14:30 -0500 Received: from America.com by relay4.UU.NET with SMTP id QQxzsi04401; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 21:14:27 -0500 Received: from tactical.ppp.america.com by America.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA15593; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 21:13:38 +0500 Message-Id: <9501220213.AA15593@America.com> X-Sender: richh@america.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 21:14:23 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: richh@enterprise.America.com (Richard Holtz) Subject: TP755 and Port replicator We obviously don't understand the magic required to make a parallel port on the replicator talk. ie we can laplink fine through the parallel port on our 755ce (great box) yet when we attach the replicator the parallel port is dead ???? thx =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Richard Holtz RRH Associates Home Control(Automation)and Building Control Systems Consultants Tel: 904 676 2725 Cell FlipPhone: 904 679 4851 FAX: 904 676 0237 internet: richh@america.com Compuserve: Used when we are in the field: 76507.2222@compuserve.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From ???@??? Sun Jan 22 19:40:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07110 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 21 Jan 1995 21:34:10 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19366; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 21:52:46 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 21:52:45 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from orpheus.amdahl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19356; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 21:52:44 -0500 Received: from cessna.oes.amdahl.com by orpheus.amdahl.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rVsLm-0000WkC; Sat, 21 Jan 95 18:48 PST Received: by cessna.oes.amdahl.com (5.0/SMI-4.1/DNS) id AA25123; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 18:52:46 +0800 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 18:52:46 +0800 From: lenj@oes.amdahl.com (Len Jacobson) Message-Id: <9501220252.AA25123@cessna.oes.amdahl.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, richh@enterprise.America.com Subject: Re: TP755 and Port replicator X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII I'd like to interject into your query a problem that I am having -- when sending lots of data between my desktop (Pentium 90) and my TP750C, the communication line drops frequently. I am using LapLink V, serial connection, 57,600 bps. I'd love to use the faster 115,200 bps, and I'd love even more to use the parallel connection, but these are even flakier. It took lots of experimenting to even decide that serial/57,600 was my best bet. What version of LapLink are you using? Have you had problems like I am saying? Any help is greatly appreciated -- this is VERY frustrating! Len Jacobson > From @amdahl.uts.amdahl.com:owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jan 21 18:45 PST 1995 > X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 21:14:32 EST > X-Sender: richh@america.com > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 21:14:23 -0500 > To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU > From: richh@enterprise.America.com (Richard Holtz) > Subject: TP755 and Port replicator > > We obviously don't understand the magic required to make a parallel port on > the replicator talk. ie we can laplink fine through the parallel port on > our 755ce (great box) yet when we attach the replicator the parallel port is > dead ???? > > thx > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Richard Holtz > RRH Associates > Home Control(Automation)and Building Control Systems Consultants > > Tel: 904 676 2725 Cell FlipPhone: 904 679 4851 FAX: 904 676 0237 > > internet: richh@america.com > Compuserve: Used when we are in the field: 76507.2222@compuserve.com > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > From ???@??? Sun Jan 22 19:40:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20155 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 22 Jan 1995 15:33:32 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26832; Sun, 22 Jan 1995 15:53:01 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 22 Jan 1995 15:52:59 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26822; Sun, 22 Jan 1995 15:52:53 -0500 Received: from @mail.hooked.net (webe.hooked.net [199.2.134.9]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA04618 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 1995 12:52:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199501222052.MAA04618@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mail.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 12:59:49 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: the rubber traction things on the bottom I'm on my second thinkpad, a 755cs (from a 720). On my 720, the rubber things on the bottom, in the back, that keep it from sliding on a smooth surface, heated up and the glue melted. I gave up and just took 'em off. My new one's starting to do the same thing, does anyone else have this problem? Or is it just me :) I use it in my lap a lot, and I usually put a book under it so I can get the flippers down and give it a little air to cool off, but sometimes I forego the book, and it gets pretty hot.. I figure that's when I reallly hit the glue. -- _________________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From ???@??? Sun Jan 22 22:40:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07356 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 22 Jan 1995 20:47:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15148; Sun, 22 Jan 1995 21:01:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 22 Jan 1995 21:01:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shell1.best.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15138; Sun, 22 Jan 1995 21:01:55 -0500 Received: from [204.156.129.87] (skillstech.com [204.156.129.87]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA19742 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 1995 18:01:28 -0800 Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 18:01:28 -0800 X-Sender: kilsdonk@best.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kilsdonk@skillstech.com (Skip Kilsdonk) Subject: External Battery for TP Family? I've seen some external batterys for Macintosh PowerBooks and PC notebooks such as the Toshiba T4800. The Toshiba one was a thin, hard plastic enclosure approximately 8"x10" by .5" thick. You could set the Toshiba notebook PC,on top of the battery, then connect the battery power output to the computer power input. If you were on an airplane or somesuch, you could just leave the battery in your briefcase and run the power cord from the battery to the notebook on your tray-table or lap. Do similar batterys exist for the IBM ThinkPad? Does anybody have any experience with BTI's external battery for Toshiba notebooks or similar ones? These batterys were originally available exclusively in the Mac world for PowerBooks and Duo's. There were three suppliers: Technoogin, VST and BTI. Now I see BTI is offering several models for PC/Windows machines. These are very THIN, lead acid batterys that supposedly will add 3-8 hours to the life of the notebook battery. Seems to me that it would be great for travel .. and the thinness of the battery makes it ideal for carrying in your briefcase. Anybody have any knowledge of these? From ???@??? Mon Jan 23 10:16:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12653 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 22 Jan 1995 23:38:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26774; Sun, 22 Jan 1995 23:54:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 22 Jan 1995 23:54:11 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26764; Sun, 22 Jan 1995 23:54:09 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA22761; Sun, 22 Jan 1995 22:54:07 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 23:54:37 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <86078.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: the rubber traction things on the bottom In message Sun, 22 Jan 1995 12:59:49 -0800, jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) writes: > I'm on my second thinkpad, a 755cs (from a 720). On my 720, the rubber > things on the bottom, in the back, that keep it from sliding on a smooth > surface, heated up and the glue melted. I gave up and just took 'em off. > > My new one's starting to do the same thing, does anyone else have this > problem? Or is it just me :) Mine feel off last month (13 months old). It hasn't really bothered me much, but I'm going to check with an authorized IBM dealer nearby if the can get me replacements (under warranty of course). Mine didn't come off until I'd tossed the TP into a backpack. Apparently the pads gripped a book and while I was walking they were forcibly peeled off. _____________________________________________________________________ |\ ____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "God knows what she could've gotten my mother to say." | | | jokim@mit.edu - Bill Clinton to Newt Gingrich, on Connie Chung | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu jokim@tuna.mit.edu does not work (yet) | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Mon Jan 23 10:16:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02690 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 23 Jan 1995 07:06:12 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02076; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 07:09:07 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 07:09:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from post.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02065; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 07:08:58 -0500 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id ab16059; 23 Jan 95 11:41 GMT From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? Date: Mon, 23 Jan 95 10:04:10 GMT Message-Id: <9501231004.aa03365@hipass.filct.com> >So what is the 755CSE? > > The 755CsE is the dual-scan passive color screen model. That's what I thought. So how come my 755CSE has an active screen? There's even a dead pixel to prove it :-) Mike From ???@??? Mon Jan 23 10:16:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11032 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 23 Jan 1995 08:14:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08169; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 08:27:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 08:27:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dns004.ford.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08138; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 08:27:13 -0500 Received: from sun1.apo.ford.com (sun1.apo.ford.com [19.55.14.24]) by dns004.ford.com (8.6.7/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA00791 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 08:27:09 -0500 Received: from ren0010.so.ford.com ([19.90.82.53]) by sun1.apo.ford.com (5.0/Ford 2.0) via id AA09748; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 08:21:18 +0500 Received: from REN0010/PMAIL by ren0010.so.ford.com (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 23 Jan 95 8:25:44 +1100 Received: from PMAIL by REN0010 (Mercury 1.11); Mon, 23 Jan 95 8:25:29 +1100 From: "Adam Wilkinson" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, "Mike O'Carroll" Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 08:25:26 EST Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <259942E6ED0@ren0010.so.ford.com> > From: "Mike O'Carroll" > To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? > Date: Mon, 23 Jan 95 10:04:10 GMT > >So what is the 755CSE? > > > > > > The 755CsE is the dual-scan passive color screen model. > > > That's what I thought. So how come my 755CSE has an active screen? > There's even a dead pixel to prove it :-) > > Mike Mike, Sounds like someone got lucky. Flip your unit over and check the type. 9545-6xx is a CsE, -7xx is a CE and -9xx is a CD. Remember that the CsE has 10.4" diagonal screen, just like the CE -- it's just passive. -- Adam Lee Wilkinson Portable Computing Technology Specialist Ford Motor Co. - Marketing & Sales Systems awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com From ???@??? Mon Jan 23 10:16:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01983 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 23 Jan 1995 09:30:04 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13172; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 09:22:46 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 09:22:45 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13157; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 09:22:41 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA10393 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Mon, 23 Jan 1995 09:22:31 -0500 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA29144; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 09:23:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 09:23:17 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: AC Adapter Recall Notice Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here's the official notice from IBM: Recall Notification from IBM for AC Adapter Model AA19210 Announced on January 20, 1995 Product Announcement 195012 Recently, during internal testing, IBM discovered that one model of AC Adapter (42G2192) shipped with certain models of ThinkPad(R) mobile computers could malfunction. The affected AC Adapter is Model AA19210 with a date code of 9452 or lower (that is, 9451, 9450...). No incidents have been reported. However, in keeping with strict IBM quality procedures, IBM is issuing a recall of these adapters, which may pose an exposure to electric shock. IBM has implemented an easy process for you to get a replacement adapter as quickly as possible, at no charge. In the U.S. and Canada, call 800-238-1967 (Monday through Friday, 6 a.m. to midnight; Saturday, 6 a.m. to 3 p.m.) to reach a representative who can help determine whether your adapter is affected. If your adapter is the affected part, IBM will send you, via overnight express, a replacement adapter and a postage-paid, return-mail carton for you to return your old adapter. In the interim, IBM recommends that all customers with an affected AC Adapter only use it with a properly wired, grounded outlet or use battery power. If you purchased or accepted delivery of one of the affected ThinkPad models (see bottom of ThinkPad unit for model number) during or after October 1994, your adapter may be subject to recall. In all cases, the affected part is AC Adapter model AA19210 (42G2192) with a date code of 9452 or lower (that is, 9451, 9450...) (see bottom of AC Adapter unit for AC Adapter model number and date code). Following is a line drawing to help you determine if your AC Adapter is affected. .---------------------------------------. | .---------------+------------++--. | | o |AC Adapter | || | o|<--FOOT | |IBM | || |<----Bar Code Label | | | || | | | |Made in | || | | | |China | ||--| | | |Model AA19210 | || |<----Date Label | |P/N 42G2192 | || | |-----. | | | || | | |----------- AC | | | || | | |----------- Input | o '---------------+------------''--' o|-----' DC Output '---------------------------------------' Black label Yellow label If you have any questions, call 800-238-1967. We apologize for any disruption this may cause. Thank you for your patience. (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation IN BRIEF . . . +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | | | AC Adapter Model AA19210 (42G2192) shipped with the following | | ThinkPad Models may be affected: | | | | o ThinkPad 755C: Models 9545-FOE; 9545-LOE; 9545-L9E; | | 9545-FOG; 9545-LOG | | | | o ThinkPad 360Cs: Model 2620-20F | | | | o ThinkPad 755CE: Models 9545-7BC; 9545-7BD; 9545-7BE; | | 9545-7PC | | | | o ThinkPad 755CD Model 9545-9BE | | | | If you own one of the ThinkPad models listed above and AC | | Adapter model AA19210 with a date code of 9452 or lower, or if | | you are not sure if your adapter is affected, call 800-238-1967, | | and IBM will: | | | | o Help you determine if your AC Adapter needs to be replaced. | | | | o If the adapter is the affected part, we will send you via | | overnight mail a replacement adapter and a postage-paid | | carton for you to return your old adapter. (Please return | | your old adapter.) | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ DESCRIPTION "The summary above is the entire text of this announcement." From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 01:43:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22903 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 23 Jan 1995 10:19:59 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17624; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 09:58:11 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 09:58:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17611; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 09:58:06 -0500 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 1281; Mon, 23 Jan 95 09:58:02 EST Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 9711; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 09:58:02 EST Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Mon, 23 Jan 95 09:57:53 EST Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA26846; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 09:56:56 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 09:56:56 -0500 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9501231456.AA26846@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Chris Hanson's message of Sat, 21 Jan 95 20:30:30 -0500 <199501220130.UAA14233@CS.UTK.EDU> Subject: two configuration problems >2. I'm helping a colleague set up a new Sigma Data 810MB drive for his > ThinkPad, and I've been unable to get the disk to boot. Make sure that the new hard drive has an "active" partition. This is done with the DOS "fdisk" command. You can't boot from the hard disk unless the partition is active. --andy From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 01:43:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28105 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 23 Jan 1995 13:48:35 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06587; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 12:48:16 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 12:48:14 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06576; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 12:48:09 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id MAA08704; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 12:51:20 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 12:51:20 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Skip Kilsdonk Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: External Battery for TP Family? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 22 Jan 1995, Skip Kilsdonk wrote: > These batterys were originally available exclusively in the Mac world for > PowerBooks and Duo's. There were three suppliers: Technoogin, VST and > BTI. Now I see BTI is offering several models for PC/Windows machines. > These are very THIN, lead acid batterys that supposedly will add 3-8 hours > to the life of the notebook battery. Seems to me that it would be great > for travel .. and the thinness of the battery makes it ideal for carrying > in your briefcase. > > Anybody have any knowledge of these? No, but it wouldn't be a big achievement, although the 18v the Pad requires is a little high. The hardest thing would probably be finding the plug. not a bad idea, either. A notebook sized thin battery wouldn't be any harder to carry around for me than the additional batt I have now..... Hmmph. Anyone want to make them and sell me one? From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 01:44:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23233 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 Jan 1995 01:53:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04832; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 02:05:07 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 02:05:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04791; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 02:04:59 -0500 Received: from @get.hooked.net (webe.hooked.net [199.2.134.9]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA15415 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 23:04:46 -0800 Message-Id: <199501240704.XAA15415@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@get.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 23:12:12 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: butterfly? Any info/rumors? Sounds nifty.. -- _________________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 01:44:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19961 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 Jan 1995 04:47:42 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA26401; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 04:55:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 04:55:09 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA26370; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 04:55:05 -0500 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 10:54:46 +0100 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Tue, 24 Jan 95 10:54:44 +0100 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 95 10:54:44 +0100 Message-Id: <9501240954.AA02415@octave.chorus.fr> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: AC Adapter Recall Notice Following the announcement posted yesterday on the mailing list, I checked my AC adaptor. I have a Thinkpad 360CSE, although not listed in the affected TP list, the AC adaptor seems to be in the corrupt set. This is an AA19210 (P/N 42G2192) and the date code is 9438 !! What do you think of this ? PS: I received my TP on early January and have had no special problem with the AC adapter. But I still have some questions concerning, Battery Charge, Power Management et al.. I will certainely post a mail on the subject when I will find some free time. -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 01:44:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10514 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 Jan 1995 08:45:59 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA14548; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 07:44:56 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 07:44:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from post.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA14534; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 07:44:33 -0500 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa01211; 24 Jan 95 11:41 GMT From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? Date: Tue, 24 Jan 95 11:05:51 GMT Message-Id: <9501241105.aa05809@hipass.filct.com> > That's what I thought. So how come my 755CSE has an active screen? > There's even a dead pixel to prove it :-) Sounds like someone got lucky. Flip your unit over and check the type. 9545-6xx is a CsE, -7xx is a CE and -9xx is a CD. Remember that It says 9545-CEX Mike From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 01:44:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27910 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 Jan 1995 09:32:19 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22049; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 09:12:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 09:12:12 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21958; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 09:12:03 -0500 From: Received: from PC1-Message_Server by BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU with WordPerfect_Office; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 09:12:03 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 09:10:21 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, mike@filct.com Subject: Re: TP755 differences Feature set for the 755 Thinkpad Series 755 "Family" Common Features ----------------------- 10.4" screen 16 KB cache Parity Memory Intel 486 DX4 75 or 100 MHz TrackPoint III PCMCIA Support either: - 1 Type 3 - 2 Type 2 or 1 1.44 diskette drive integrated infrared capability Rechargable "hot swap" NiMH battery 755 CSE/CE/CD Common Features ---------------------------- Intel 486 DX4 10 MHz 8MB RAM expandable to 40MB Integrated Mwave DSP subsystem supporting: - 14.4 data/fax - Mwave telephony - Microphone/headphone 755CSE Features ------------------------------ Monitor, Color, Dual Scan 340MB (Upgradable to 810MB) integrate speakers 6.4 pounds 3.3 - 10 hr battery 755CE Featuers -------------------------------- Monitor, Color, Black Matrix array TFT 340MB (Upgradable to 810MB) integrate speakers 6.4 pounds 3.3 - 10 hr battery 755CD Features ------------------------------- Montor, Color, Black Matrix array TFT 540MB (Upgradable to 810MB) CD-ROM, Double speed stereo speakers 7.3 pounds 3.3 - 9 hr battery From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 01:44:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29623 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 Jan 1995 09:37:10 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21715; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 09:08:11 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 09:08:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21704; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 09:08:04 -0500 From: Received: from PC1-Message_Server by BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU with WordPerfect_Office; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 09:08:02 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 09:05:58 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, kilsdonk@skillstech.com Subject: External Battery for TP Family? -Reply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >I've seen some external batterys for Macintosh PowerBooks and PC >notebooks such as the Toshiba T4800. The Toshiba one was a thin, >hard plastic enclosure approximately 8"x10" by .5" thick. You could set >the Toshiba notebook PC,on top of the battery, then connect the battery >power output to the computer power input. If you were on an airplane >or somesuch, you could just leave the battery in your briefcase and run >the power cord from the battery to the notebook on your tray-table or l>ap. Do similar batterys exist for the IBM ThinkPad? Does anybody >have any experience with BTI's external battery for Toshiba notebooks >or similar ones? Anybody have any knowledge of these? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Reply - I haven't had any experience with an external battery. I do use a second INTERNAL battery for my 750Cs. It is easily portable and doesn't require any more adapters. From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 01:44:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10578 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 Jan 1995 13:17:30 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05204; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 11:11:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 11:11:21 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05193; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 11:11:19 -0500 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02047; Tue, 24 Jan 95 08:12:08 PST Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940715.SGI.52/911001.SGI) for @cs.nps.navy.mil:tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id AA11269; Tue, 24 Jan 95 08:12:03 -0800 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9501240812.ZM11267@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 08:12:02 -0800 In-Reply-To: cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) "Re: TP755C/CE differences?" (Jan 19, 10:37am) References: <9501191837.AA28299@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: cmcmanis@scndprsn.eng.sun.com (Chuck McManis) Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 On Jan 19, 10:37am, Chuck McManis wrote: > Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? > > The 755C is a 750C with a faster processor, it cannot be upgraded to a > 755CD. > > The 755CE has a new motherboard and a new sound subsystem. The sound > subsystem uses IBMs "MWave" DSP sound chip that can, among other things, > act as a 28.8K modem (this saves you a PCMCIA slot). Allegedly (and I've > not confirmed this) the MWave chip is also _register_ compatible with > the Sound Blaster so many more DOS tools work out of the box without the > generally unreliable sound blaster emulator driver. Finally the CE, unlike > the C can take video *in* and display it on your screen. This is due to an > enhanced LCD display that can display 64K colors simultaneously, to the > 755C's 256. > > --Chuck >-- End of excerpt from Chuck McManis The number of colors the LCD panel can display has little to do with the panel itself. Active matrix LCD panels are _analog_ displays, much like a television. Each pixel has an analog (non-switching) transistor driving a red, green, and blue pixel. This means that the panel itself can display an infinite number of colors simulaneously. The limitation of the ThinkPad's is due to the graphics chip which is driving the panel. The 755C's have an 8 bit chip driving the RAMDAC which converts the digital output of the VGA chip to analog LCD signals. The 755CE's have a 16-bit chip. On a similar note, all 750 and 755's *can* display video. I played with the ThinPad television tuner which fits into the floppy drive bay in the 750 and 755's. The screen quality for television broadcasts was actually quite good. Although the unit is outrageously expensive ($2000!), it has a very nice feature: an external video input. I was driving the screen of the ThinkPad with a color CCD camera -- very nice. Robert From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 01:44:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10846 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 Jan 1995 18:25:18 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05008; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 18:13:45 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 18:13:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04998; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 18:13:41 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rWuQW-0004u3C; Tue, 24 Jan 95 17:13 CST Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rWuQV-0002nbC; Tue, 24 Jan 95 17:13 CST Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rWuQT-0002wvC; Tue, 24 Jan 95 17:13 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? To: george@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 17:13:29 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9501240812.ZM11267@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> from "Robert George" at Jan 24, 95 08:12:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > On a similar note, all 750 and 755's *can* display video. I played with the > ThinPad television tuner which fits into the floppy drive bay in the 750 and > 755's. The screen quality for television broadcasts was actually quite good. > Although the unit is outrageously expensive ($2000!), it has a very nice > feature: an external video input. I was driving the screen of the ThinkPad > with a color CCD camera -- very nice. Check again, the cost is $399. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 01:44:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04714 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 Jan 1995 19:31:15 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08949; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 19:15:50 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 19:15:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08935; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 19:15:46 -0500 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20519; Tue, 24 Jan 95 16:16:37 PST Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940715.SGI.52/911001.SGI) for @cs.nps.navy.mil:tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id AA11775; Tue, 24 Jan 95 16:16:30 -0800 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9501241616.ZM11773@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 16:16:29 -0800 In-Reply-To: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) "Re: TP755C/CE differences?" (Jan 24, 5:13pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 >Check again, the cost is $399. That's funny! At the Army Research Laboratory we were able to beta test the prototypes of both the television tuner and the internal CDPD/Cellular internal phone modem. Although both components were essentially finished, IBM was having a hell of a time getting FCC approval. We were quoted the price of $1,995 for _both_ devices. We thought it was odd that two completely different peripherals were the identical price. I guess IBM finally came to their senses. Does anyone know how much the CDPD/Cellular is now? Robert From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 21:48:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01060 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 Jan 1995 06:03:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA26428; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 05:49:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 05:49:32 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from herald.usask.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA26418; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 05:49:24 -0500 Received: by herald.usask.ca (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA02003; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 01:35:42 -0600 for Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 01:35:41 -0600 (CST) From: Mauro Golin To: jesse montrose Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: the rubber traction things on the bottom In-Reply-To: <199501222052.MAA04618@get.hooked.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a 720 but it never got so hot to melt any of the rubber off. I must admit that it can get uncomfortablely warm when I have it in my lap for long periods of time (> 1 hr.). I've had the TP for about 1.5 years and have used it on a daily basis for long periods of time without any 'melting' problems. What I've noticed is that the majority of the heat seems to be generated >from the battery when recharging. If the battery is not charging, the unit is relatively cooler (that is minimal heat is produced). Mauro On Sun, 22 Jan 1995, jesse montrose wrote: > I'm on my second thinkpad, a 755cs (from a 720). On my 720, the rubber > things on the bottom, in the back, that keep it from sliding on a smooth > surface, heated up and the glue melted. I gave up and just took 'em off. > > My new one's starting to do the same thing, does anyone else have this > problem? Or is it just me :) > > I use it in my lap a lot, and I usually put a book under it so I can get the > flippers down and give it a little air to cool off, but sometimes I forego > the book, and it gets pretty hot.. I figure that's when I reallly hit the glue. > -- > _________________________________________________________________________ > jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse > I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume > > From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 21:48:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19675 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 Jan 1995 08:25:18 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06210; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 08:28:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 08:28:14 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from janne.telepost.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06200; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 08:28:09 -0500 From: X400-Received: by mta gw.telepost.no in /PRMD=internet/ADMD=telemax/C=no/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 14:27:29 +0100 X400-Received: by /ADMD=TELEMAX/C=NO/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 14:29:27 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 14:29:27 +0100 X400-Originator: FINN.GLOERSEN@AVENTURA.noprmd.telemax.no X400-Recipients: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X400-Mts-Identifier: [/ADMD=TELEMAX/C=NO/;NORWAYII R0004000791040566294] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 268 95/01/25 Message-Id: <"268 95/01/25*/G=FINN/S=GLOERSEN/O=AVENTURA/ADMD=Telemax/C=NO/"@MHS> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (Non Receipt Notification Requested) Subject: Upgrade TP750CS Hi !! Anybody have any knowledge of upgrading a Tp750Cs . Finn Gloersen finn.gloersen@aventura.telemax.no From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 21:48:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28315 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 Jan 1995 11:12:44 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17999; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 10:48:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 10:48:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17981; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 10:48:49 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rX9x3-0004u6C; Wed, 25 Jan 95 09:48 CST Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rX9x2-0002ncC; Wed, 25 Jan 95 09:48 CST Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rX9x0-0002wvC; Wed, 25 Jan 95 09:48 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? To: lee@champion.tcs.co.jp (Lee Hounshell) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 09:48:06 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <199501250130.KAA14623@Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp> from "Lee Hounshell" at Jan 25, 95 10:30:52 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > You mentioned that a "ThinPad television tuner" can be purchased for the 755C > for $399... Is this an IBM product? Where can I purchase it? > I am sure that the product is manufactured by another company. IBM puts their name on it. I am told that IBM PC Direct cut their price from $899 to $399 in the last few months. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 21:48:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29985 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 Jan 1995 11:15:54 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17769; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 10:46:56 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 10:46:53 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17757; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 10:46:51 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rX9vc-0004u6C; Wed, 25 Jan 95 09:46 CST Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rX9va-0002ncC; Wed, 25 Jan 95 09:46 CST Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rX9vW-0002wvC; Wed, 25 Jan 95 09:46 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? To: george@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 09:46:34 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9501241616.ZM11773@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> from "Robert George" at Jan 24, 95 04:16:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Does anyone know how much the CDPD/Cellular is now? As I recall the PCSI CDPD modem (sold with IBM's name on it) is now selling for $1500. FYI, They have sold less than 500 units at that price. Surprised? -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 21:48:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05241 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 Jan 1995 11:27:03 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17555; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 10:44:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 10:44:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17542; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 10:44:10 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rX9t9-0004u6C; Wed, 25 Jan 95 09:44 CST Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rX9t8-0002ncC; Wed, 25 Jan 95 09:44 CST Received: from bart by bart.dsd.northrop.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rX9t7-0002wvC; Wed, 25 Jan 95 09:44 CST Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rWzIX-000BhHC; Tue, 24 Jan 95 22:25 CST Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rWzIW-0002nbC; Tue, 24 Jan 95 22:25 CST Received: from chaph.usc.edu by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rWzIU-0004u3C; Tue, 24 Jan 95 22:25 CST Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA11704 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 20:24:58 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id UAA01546 for strat@dsd.northrop.com; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 20:24:32 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199501250424.UAA01546@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? To: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 20:24:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: from "Scott Stratmoen" at Jan 24, 95 05:13:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: strat@CS.UTK.EDU > > > On a similar note, all 750 and 755's *can* display video. I played with th > > ThinPad television tuner which fits into the floppy drive bay in the 750 a > > 755's. The screen quality for television broadcasts was actually quite g > > Although the unit is outrageously expensive ($2000!), it has a very nice > > feature: an external video input. I was driving the screen of the ThinkPad > > with a color CCD camera -- very nice. > > Check again, the cost is $399. Really? At that price, I might actually buy one! Can anyone tell me what the reception is like? Do you have to put a little antenna on it? Any way to get cable? :) As for the Video input--can you edit video with it (and the proper software)? ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 21:48:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14287 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 Jan 1995 12:41:52 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27382; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 12:34:22 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 12:34:19 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27372; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 12:34:18 -0500 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10241; Wed, 25 Jan 95 09:35:09 PST Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940715.SGI.52/911001.SGI) for @cs.nps.navy.mil:tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id AA12658; Wed, 25 Jan 95 09:35:03 -0800 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9501250935.ZM12656@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 09:35:02 -0800 In-Reply-To: Randal Whittle "Re: TP755C/CE differences?" (Jan 24, 8:24pm) References: <199501250424.UAA01546@aludra.usc.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: Randal Whittle , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 >Can anyone tell me what the reception is like? Do you have to >put a little antenna on it? Any way to get cable? :) As for the >Video input--can you edit video with it (and the proper software)? The tuner takes the place of the floppy drive in the internal bay. If you look at a 750 or 755, there is a removable plastic insert on the left side. This is taken out and provides the port for the external receiver and the video input. There is also a removable insert around the mouth of the floppy drive slot which is removed and provides a panel for tuner control. After you install the tuner, you install a BIOS update which autosenses whether you have the floppy drive or the TV tuner inside. When the laptop is booted with the tuner pack, it operates like usual until the power switch for the tuner is pressed. Then the tuner takes over the display panel. This is an important point -- the video image does *not* appear in a window, it takes over the entire screen. Windows applications still function, they just do not display on the LCD panel. BTW, this means that the although the video is being digitized (instead of passing it analog direction to the LCD panel), it cannot be captured. TV reception is provided by a weird looking external receiver with suction cups intended for mounting. Reception is acceptable, but not outstanding. The video quality is reasonably good, but I found the colors looked artificial with skin tones on a 750c/755c due to the limitations of the 8-bit RAMDAC. My feeling was that it was _not_ worth the original price of $1,995, but I might reconsider with the $399 price tag. Robert From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 21:48:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21183 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 Jan 1995 15:52:42 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11040; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 15:37:31 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 15:37:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from stortek.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11029; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 15:37:26 -0500 Received: from deathstar.stortek.com ([129.80.18.204]) by stortek.com with SMTP id AA21687 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 25 Jan 1995 13:36:46 -0700 Received: from endor.stortek.com by deathstar.stortek.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-SESA-Main-0001) id AA02738; Wed, 25 Jan 95 13:36:45 MST Date: Wed, 25 Jan 95 13:36:45 MST From: ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) Message-Id: <9501252036.AA02738@deathstar.stortek.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? > Can anyone tell me what the reception is like? Do you have to > put a little antenna on it? Any way to get cable? :) Gee, I can see it now.. A tiny laptop, with a spool of a thousand feet of cable..... ;-))) Actually, what comes to mind is a DBS satellite dish.... ;-) Lee Stewart From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 21:48:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12640 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 Jan 1995 17:43:13 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23172; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 17:44:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 17:44:49 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23150; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 17:44:44 -0500 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17407; Wed, 25 Jan 95 14:45:33 PST Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940715.SGI.52/911001.SGI) for @cs.nps.navy.mil:tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id AA00458; Wed, 25 Jan 95 14:45:32 -0800 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9501251445.ZM456@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 14:45:31 -0800 In-Reply-To: ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) "Re: TP755C/CE differences?" (Jan 25, 1:36pm) References: <9501252036.AA02738@deathstar.stortek.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 On Jan 25, 1:36pm, Lee Stewart wrote: > Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? > > Can anyone tell me what the reception is like? Do you have to > > put a little antenna on it? Any way to get cable? :) > > Gee, I can see it now.. A tiny laptop, with a spool of a thousand feet > of cable..... ;-))) > > Actually, what comes to mind is a DBS satellite dish.... ;-) > > Lee Stewart > >-- End of excerpt from Lee Stewart Yeah, but you couldn't watch any long movies, the batteries wouldn't last long enough! :) Robert From ???@??? Wed Jan 25 21:48:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00433 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 Jan 1995 18:29:54 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27270; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 18:24:47 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 18:24:45 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27258; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 18:24:43 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA29172; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 15:23:58 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id PAA25778; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 15:20:59 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199501252320.PAA25778@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? To: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 15:20:58 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Scott Stratmoen" at Jan 25, 95 09:46:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Does anyone know how much the CDPD/Cellular is now? > > As I recall the PCSI CDPD modem (sold with IBM's name on it) is now > selling for $1500. > > FYI, > They have sold less than 500 units at that price. Surprised? > -- Considering I can have a really *good* high-end hand-help Cellular phone by Nokia for $400 with Data port, then buy an AT&T PCMCIA card modem for--oh, $250-ish now, and the associated connection materials at $50 to $100...yeah, the IBM Model is about 2x overpriced. The only people buying them are mega-bureaucrats. I wonder how much time will pass before they bring those down to $400 like the TV tuner? At that price, I'm tempted to buy a TV tuner--looks like a pretty which & easy way to get a portable TV, if you ask me. :) ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Thu Jan 26 08:25:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20228 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 Jan 1995 22:24:36 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13517; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 22:33:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 22:33:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13506; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 22:33:11 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rXKtK-0004uGC; Wed, 25 Jan 95 21:29 CST Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rXKtI-0002ncC; Wed, 25 Jan 95 21:29 CST Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rXKtH-0002wvC; Wed, 25 Jan 95 21:28 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randal Whittle) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 21:28:59 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <199501252320.PAA25778@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Jan 25, 95 03:20:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The only people buying them are mega-bureaucrats. I wonder how > much time will pass before they bring those down to $400 like the TV > tuner? At that price, I'm tempted to buy a TV tuner--looks like a pretty > which & easy way to get a portable TV, if you ask me. :) I have it on good information that at $1500 the unit is below their cost! PCSI is paying licensing fees to others. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Thu Jan 26 08:25:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27747 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 26 Jan 1995 01:18:13 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23572; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 01:29:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 01:29:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23560; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 01:29:08 -0500 Received: from phakt.usc.edu (whittle@phakt.usc.edu [128.125.253.144]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id WAA03801; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 22:28:44 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by phakt.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id WAA12691; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 22:27:36 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199501260627.WAA12691@phakt.usc.edu> Subject: Re: TP755C/CE differences? To: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 22:27:35 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Scott Stratmoen" at Jan 25, 95 09:28:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > The only people buying them are mega-bureaucrats. I wonder how > > much time will pass before they bring those down to $400 like the TV > > tuner? At that price, I'm tempted to buy a TV tuner--looks like a pretty > > which & easy way to get a portable TV, if you ask me. :) > > I have it on good information that at $1500 the unit is below their cost! > > PCSI is paying licensing fees to others. Is this the company that created/made the Cell-phone packet-data thingamajig? If they couldn't make it for below $1500, they don't *deserve* to sell any of the dumb things! A company either has to be a cost leader or sufficiently differentiated such that cost is not an issue. But before choosing the path of differentiation, it would of course first be wise to figure out whether anybody really *wants* the item at any price! ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Thu Jan 26 08:25:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03882 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 26 Jan 1995 02:02:03 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25447; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 02:19:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 02:19:21 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gwis2.circ.gwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25437; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 02:19:19 -0500 Received: (from halinatr@localhost) by gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA14481; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 15:13:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 15:13:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Darren P. McCabe" Subject: The constant battle to upgrade....:( To: IBM Thinkpad Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well...I figured a new job merited an upgrade from my puny 170MB hd to at least a 340MB. As of 1/25/94, here are the prices I got from Sigma Data on their OEM TP750 drives: 340MB - $595 540MB - $895. 810MB - Are you serious? I can't even afford the 340mb. Didn't even ask. So then I saw an ad in Processor...from U.S.A INC. The ad said: 344 H/D for Thinkpad W/Case $399 540 H/D for Thinkpad W/Case $540 I called, and asked for the current prices. I was told: 340MB W/Case - $425 540MB W/Case - $625 Skeptical....I asked for the IBM part #'s. He told me his system was down and to call him back in 20 min. I did, and got the following part #'s >from him: 340MB W/Case : 60G2689 540MB W/Case : 60G2698 I asked him who made the drives... 'I have no idea.' So, I called IBM to find out what those part #'s were for: 60G2689 : Unknown to PC Direct. Same with the other one. While on the line, I got the price for the 340MB drive, part # 66G2849: $935. That should erase all doubt as to the value of the Sigma Drives.... Anyone want to call the parts center and see what they are? I have lost the #, and the part # for the cat's tounges....so a repost of them would be great. Hal From ???@??? Thu Jan 26 08:25:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04213 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 26 Jan 1995 06:40:43 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA17888; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 05:46:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 05:46:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from trust.pegasus.esprit.ec.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA17878; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 05:46:32 -0500 Received: from localhost by trust.pegasus.esprit.ec.org (5.65/Task-6) id AA07771; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 11:45:59 +0100 Message-Id: <9501261045.AA07771@trust.pegasus.esprit.ec.org> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: tage@cs.uit.no Subject: TP360CE: NetBSD-1.0 and XFree86-3.1 files Date: Thu, 26 Jan 95 11:45:58 +0100 From: Arne Helme X-Mts: smtp Enclosed in this mail is a PS/2 mouse driver(*) for NetBSD-1.0 that seems to work with the Trackpoint device on a TP360CE. Enclosed is also the config file I used to build the kernel, and the XF86Config file for XFree86-3.1. Everything seems to run just fine. (*) Thanks to Keith Moore and Charles Hannum who provided me with valuable information. -- Arne | Arne Helme, arne@acm.org, arne@pegasus.esprit.ec.org (finger) | | PHONE: +31-53-893735, FAX: +31-53-333895, HOME: +31-53-326377 | | WWW : http://www.pegasus.esprit.ec.org/people/arne/index.html | | Inf/SPA, Univ. of Twente, P.O.Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede, Netherlands | # This is a shell archive. Save it in a file, remove anything before # this line, and then unpack it by entering "sh file". Note, it may # create directories; files and directories will be owned by you and # have default permissions. # # This archive contains: # # TP360CE # XF86Config # pms.c # echo x - TP360CE sed 's/^X//' >TP360CE << 'END-of-TP360CE' X############################ -*- Mode: Makefile -*- ########################### X## TP360CE -- NetBSD-1.0 configuration file for IBM ThinkPad 360CE X## X## Author : Arne Helme X## Created On : Sun Nov 20 19:31:09 1994 X## Last Modified By: Arne Helme X## Last Modified On: Thu Jan 26 11:45:58 1995 X## Status : Unknown, Use with caution! X## X## $Locker$ X## $Log$ X############################################################################### X Xmachine "i386" Xident "TP360CE" Xcpu "I486_CPU" Xtimezone 0 dst 0 Xmaxusers 5 Xoptions SWAPPAGER,VNODEPAGER,DEVPAGER Xoptions FIFO Xoptions SYSVMSG Xoptions SYSVSEM Xoptions SYSVSHM Xoptions FFS Xoptions INET,NFSCLIENT,NFSSERVER Xoptions "COMPAT_43" Xoptions "TCP_COMPAT_42" Xoptions XSERVER,UCONSOLE Xoptions MSDOSFS Xoptions KERNFS Xoptions "COMPAT_NOMID" Xoptions "COMPAT_09" Xoptions "MACHINE_NONCONTIG" Xoptions KTRACE Xoptions "IBM_TRACKPOINT" X Xconfig netbsd root on wd0 swap on wd0 X Xcontroller isa0 X Xdevice pc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" irq 1 Xdevice com0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" irq 4 X Xdevice lpt0 at isa? port "IO_LPT1" irq 7 Xdevice lpt2 at isa? port "IO_LPT3" X X#device pms0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" irq 12 X#device pms0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" irq 5 X#device pms0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 12 vector pmsintr Xdevice pms0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" irq 12 X Xcontroller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" irq 14 Xdisk wd0 at wdc0 drive ? X Xcontroller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" irq 6 drq 2 Xdisk fd0 at fdc0 drive ? X Xdevice npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 X Xpseudo-device log 1 Xpseudo-device loop 1 Xpseudo-device pty 16 Xpseudo-device sl 1 Xpseudo-device tun 1 Xpseudo-device bpfilter 1 END-of-TP360CE echo x - XF86Config sed 's/^X//' >XF86Config << 'END-of-XF86Config' XSection "Files" X RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb/" X FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" X FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" XEndSection X XSection "Keyboard" X Protocol "Standard" X AutoRepeat 500 5 X ServerNumLock XEndSection X XSection "Pointer" X Protocol "BusMouse" X Device "/dev/pms0" X Emulate3Buttons XEndSection X XSection "Monitor" X Identifier "LCD Screen" X VendorName "IBM" X ModelName "Unknown" X X# Bandwidth 90 X HorizSync 35.40 X VertRefresh 67.43 X X Mode "640x480" X DotClock 28.32 X HTimings 640 664 760 800 X VTimings 480 491 493 525 X EndMode XEndSection X X XSection "Device" X Identifier "WD90C24" X VendorName "Western Digital" X BoardName "RocketChip" X Chipset "wd90c30" X VideoRam 1024 X Clocks 28.32 28.32 28.32 28.32 28.32 28.32 28.32 28.32 X Clocks 28.32 28.32 28.32 28.32 28.32 28.32 28.32 28.32 X Clocks 49.84 XEndSection X X XSection "Screen" X Driver "svga" X Device "WD90C24" X Monitor "LCD Screen" X Subsection "Display" X Depth 8 X Modes "640x480" X ViewPort 0 0 X Virtual 640 480 X EndSubsection XEndSection X END-of-XF86Config echo x - pms.c sed 's/^X//' >pms.c << 'END-of-pms.c' X/*- X * Copyright (c) 1994 Charles Hannum. X * Copyright (c) 1992, 1993 Erik Forsberg. X * All rights reserved. X * X * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without X * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions X * are met: X * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright X * notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. X * X * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED X * WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF X * MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN X * NO EVENT SHALL I BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, X * EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, X * PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR X * PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF X * LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING X * NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS X * SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. X * X * $Id: pms.c,v 1.9.2.2 1994/07/19 17:01:52 cgd Exp $ X */ X X/* X * XXXX X * This is a hack. This driver should really be combined with the X * keyboard driver, since they go through the same buffer and use the X * same I/O ports. Frobbing the mouse and keyboard at the same time X * may result in dropped characters and/or corrupted mouse events. X */ X X#include "pms.h" X#if NPMS > 1 X#error Only one PS/2 style mouse may be configured into your system. X#endif X X#include X#include X#include X#include X#include X#include X#include X#include X#include X#include X#include X#include X X#include X#include X#include X X#include X X#define PMS_DATA 0 /* offset for data port, read-write */ X#define PMS_CNTRL 4 /* offset for control port, write-only */ X#define PMS_STATUS 4 /* offset for status port, read-only */ X#define PMS_NPORTS 8 X X/* status bits */ X#define PMS_OBUF_FULL 0x01 X#define PMS_IBUF_FULL 0x02 X X/* controller commands */ X#define PMS_INT_ENABLE 0x47 /* enable controller interrupts */ X#define PMS_INT_DISABLE 0x65 /* disable controller interrupts */ X#define PMS_AUX_ENABLE 0xa7 /* enable auxiliary port */ X#define PMS_AUX_DISABLE 0xa8 /* disable auxiliary port */ X#define PMS_MAGIC_1 0xa9 /* XXX */ X#define PMS_MAGIC_2 0xaa /* XXX */ X X#define PMS_8042_CMD 0x65 X X/* mouse commands */ X#define PMS_SET_SCALE11 0xe6 /* set scaling 1:1 */ X#define PMS_SET_SCALE21 0xe7 /* set scaling 2:1 */ X#define PMS_SET_RES 0xe8 /* set resolution */ X#define PMS_GET_SCALE 0xe9 /* get scaling factor */ X#define PMS_SET_STREAM 0xea /* set streaming mode */ X#define PMS_SET_SAMPLE 0xf3 /* set sampling rate */ X#define PMS_DEV_ENABLE 0xf4 /* mouse on */ X#define PMS_DEV_DISABLE 0xf5 /* mouse off */ X#define PMS_RESET 0xff /* reset */ X X#define PMS_CHUNK 128 /* chunk size for read */ X#define PMS_BSIZE 1020 /* buffer size */ X Xstruct pms_softc { /* driver status information */ X struct device sc_dev; X struct intrhand sc_ih; X X struct clist sc_q; X struct selinfo sc_rsel; X u_short sc_iobase; /* I/O port base */ X u_char sc_state; /* mouse driver state */ X#define PMS_OPEN 0x01 /* device is open */ X#define PMS_ASLP 0x02 /* waiting for mouse data */ X u_char sc_status; /* mouse button status */ X int sc_x, sc_y; /* accumulated motion in the X,Y axis */ X}; X Xint pmsprobe(); Xvoid pmsattach(); Xint pmsintr __P((struct pms_softc *)); X Xstruct cfdriver pmscd = {\ X NULL, "pms", pmsprobe, pmsattach, DV_TTY, sizeof(struct pms_softc) X}; X X#define PMSUNIT(dev) (minor(dev)) X Xstatic inline void Xpms_flush(iobase) X u_short iobase; X{ X u_char c; X while (c = inb(iobase+PMS_STATUS) & 0x03) X if ((c & PMS_OBUF_FULL) == PMS_OBUF_FULL) { X /* XXX - delay is needed to prevent some keyboards from X wedging when the system boots */ X delay(6); X (void) inb(iobase+PMS_DATA); X } X} X Xstatic inline void Xpms_dev_cmd(iobase, value) X u_short iobase; X u_char value; X{ X pms_flush(iobase); X outb(iobase+PMS_CNTRL, 0xd4); X pms_flush(iobase); X outb(iobase+PMS_DATA, value); X} X Xstatic inline void Xpms_aux_cmd(iobase, value) X u_short iobase; X u_char value; X{ X pms_flush(iobase); X outb(iobase+PMS_CNTRL, value); X} X Xstatic inline void Xpms_pit_cmd(iobase, value) X u_short iobase; X u_char value; X{ X pms_flush(iobase); X outb(iobase+PMS_CNTRL, 0x60); X pms_flush(iobase); X outb(iobase+PMS_DATA, value); X} X Xint Xpmsprobe(parent, self, aux) X struct device *parent, *self; X void *aux; X{ X struct isa_attach_args *ia = aux; X u_short iobase = ia->ia_iobase; X u_char x; X X pms_dev_cmd(iobase, PMS_RESET); X pms_aux_cmd(iobase, PMS_MAGIC_1); X#ifndef IBM_TRACKPOINT X pms_aux_cmd(iobase, PMS_MAGIC_2); X#endif /* IBM_TRACKPOINT */ X x = inb(iobase+PMS_DATA); X pms_pit_cmd(iobase, PMS_INT_DISABLE); X if (x & 0x04) X return 0; X X ia->ia_iosize = PMS_NPORTS; X ia->ia_msize = 0; X X return 1; X} X Xvoid Xpmsattach(parent, self, aux) X struct device *parent, *self; X void *aux; X{ X struct pms_softc *sc = (void *)self; X struct isa_attach_args *ia = aux; X u_short iobase = ia->ia_iobase; X X printf("\n"); X X /* Other initialization was done by pmsprobe. */ X sc->sc_iobase = iobase; X sc->sc_state = 0; X X sc->sc_ih.ih_fun = pmsintr; X sc->sc_ih.ih_arg = sc; X sc->sc_ih.ih_level = IPL_NONE; X intr_establish(ia->ia_irq, &sc->sc_ih); X} X Xint Xpmsopen(dev, flag) X dev_t dev; X int flag; X{ X int unit = PMSUNIT(dev); X struct pms_softc *sc; X X if (unit >= pmscd.cd_ndevs) X return ENXIO; X sc = pmscd.cd_devs[unit]; X if (!sc) X return ENXIO; X X if (sc->sc_state & PMS_OPEN) X return EBUSY; X X if (clalloc(&sc->sc_q, PMS_BSIZE, 0) == -1) X return ENOMEM; X X sc->sc_state |= PMS_OPEN; X sc->sc_status = 0; X sc->sc_x = sc->sc_y = 0; X X /* Enable interrupts. */ X pms_dev_cmd(sc->sc_iobase, PMS_DEV_ENABLE); X pms_aux_cmd(sc->sc_iobase, PMS_AUX_ENABLE); X#if 0 X pms_dev_cmd(sc->sc_iobase, PMS_SET_RES); X pms_dev_cmd(sc->sc_iobase, 3); /* 8 counts/mm */ X pms_dev_cmd(sc->sc_iobase, PMS_SET_SCALE21); X pms_dev_cmd(sc->sc_iobase, PMS_SET_SAMPLE); X pms_dev_cmd(sc->sc_iobase, 100); /* 100 samples/sec */ X pms_dev_cmd(sc->sc_iobase, PMS_SET_STREAM); X#endif X pms_pit_cmd(sc->sc_iobase, PMS_INT_ENABLE); X X return 0; X} X Xint Xpmsclose(dev, flag) X dev_t dev; X int flag; X{ X struct pms_softc *sc = pmscd.cd_devs[PMSUNIT(dev)]; X X /* Disable interrupts. */ X#ifdef IBM_TRACKPOINT X /* The following piece of code prevents the keyboard from X locking up on IBM ThinkPads with TrackPoint mouse device. */ X pms_pit_cmd(sc->sc_iobase, PMS_INT_DISABLE); X while (inb (sc->sc_iobase + PMS_STATUS) & 0x03) { X if (inb (sc->sc_iobase + PMS_STATUS) & 0x02 == 0x02) X inb (sc->sc_iobase + PMS_DATA); X } X#else /* not IBM_TRACKPOINT */ X pms_dev_cmd(sc->sc_iobase, PMS_DEV_DISABLE); X pms_pit_cmd(sc->sc_iobase, PMS_INT_DISABLE); X pms_aux_cmd(sc->sc_iobase, PMS_AUX_DISABLE); X#endif /* not IBM_TRACKPOINT */ X X sc->sc_state &= ~PMS_OPEN; X X clfree(&sc->sc_q); X X return 0; X} X Xint Xpmsread(dev, uio, flag) X dev_t dev; X struct uio *uio; X int flag; X{ X struct pms_softc *sc = pmscd.cd_devs[PMSUNIT(dev)]; X int s; X int error; X size_t length; X u_char buffer[PMS_CHUNK]; X X /* Block until mouse activity occured. */ X X s = spltty(); X while (sc->sc_q.c_cc == 0) { X if (flag & IO_NDELAY) { X splx(s); X return EWOULDBLOCK; X } X sc->sc_state |= PMS_ASLP; X if (error = tsleep((caddr_t)sc, PZERO | PCATCH, "pmsrea", 0)) { X sc->sc_state &= ~PMS_ASLP; X splx(s); X return error; X } X } X splx(s); X X /* Transfer as many chunks as possible. */ X X while (sc->sc_q.c_cc > 0 && uio->uio_resid > 0) { X length = min(sc->sc_q.c_cc, uio->uio_resid); X if (length > sizeof(buffer)) X length = sizeof(buffer); X X /* Remove a small chunk from the input queue. */ X (void) q_to_b(&sc->sc_q, buffer, length); X X /* Copy the data to the user process. */ X if (error = uiomove(buffer, length, uio)) X break; X } X X return error; X} X Xint Xpmsioctl(dev, cmd, addr, flag) X dev_t dev; X int cmd; X caddr_t addr; X int flag; X{ X struct pms_softc *sc = pmscd.cd_devs[PMSUNIT(dev)]; X struct mouseinfo info; X int s; X int error; X X switch (cmd) { X case MOUSEIOCREAD: X s = spltty(); X X info.status = sc->sc_status; X if (sc->sc_x || sc->sc_y) X info.status |= MOVEMENT; X X if (sc->sc_x > 127) X info.xmotion = 127; X else if (sc->sc_x < -127) X /* Bounding at -127 avoids a bug in XFree86. */ X info.xmotion = -127; X else X info.xmotion = sc->sc_x; X X if (sc->sc_y > 127) X info.ymotion = 127; X else if (sc->sc_y < -127) X info.ymotion = -127; X else X info.ymotion = sc->sc_y; X X /* Reset historical information. */ X sc->sc_x = sc->sc_y = 0; X sc->sc_status &= ~BUTCHNGMASK; X ndflush(&sc->sc_q, sc->sc_q.c_cc); X X splx(s); X error = copyout(&info, addr, sizeof(struct mouseinfo)); X break; X X default: X error = EINVAL; X break; X } X X return error; X} X X/* Masks for the first byte of a packet */ X#define PS2LBUTMASK 0x01 X#define PS2RBUTMASK 0x02 X#define PS2MBUTMASK 0x04 X Xint Xpmsintr(sc) X struct pms_softc *sc; X{ X u_short iobase = sc->sc_iobase; X static int state = 0; X static u_char buttons; X u_char changed; X static char dx, dy; X u_char buffer[5]; X X if ((sc->sc_state & PMS_OPEN) == 0) { X /* Interrupts are not expected. Discard the byte. */ X (void) inb(iobase + PMS_DATA); X return 0; X } X X switch (state) { X X case 0: X buttons = inb(iobase + PMS_DATA); X if ((buttons & 0xc0) == 0) X ++state; X break; X X case 1: X dx = inb(iobase + PMS_DATA); X /* Bounding at -127 avoids a bug in XFree86. */ X dx = (dx == -128) ? -127 : dx; X ++state; X break; X X case 2: X dy = inb(iobase + PMS_DATA); X dy = (dy == -128) ? -127 : dy; X state = 0; X X buttons = ((buttons & PS2LBUTMASK) << 2) | X ((buttons & (PS2RBUTMASK | PS2MBUTMASK)) >> 1); X changed = ((buttons ^ sc->sc_status) & BUTSTATMASK) << 3; X sc->sc_status = buttons | (sc->sc_status & ~BUTSTATMASK) | changed; X X if (dx || dy || changed) { X /* Update accumulated movements. */ X sc->sc_x += dx; X sc->sc_y += dy; X X /* Add this event to the queue. */ X buffer[0] = 0x80 | (buttons ^ BUTSTATMASK); X buffer[1] = dx; X buffer[2] = dy; X buffer[3] = buffer[4] = 0; X (void) b_to_q(buffer, sizeof buffer, &sc->sc_q); X X if (sc->sc_state & PMS_ASLP) { X sc->sc_state &= ~PMS_ASLP; X wakeup((caddr_t)sc); X } X selwakeup(&sc->sc_rsel); X } X X break; X } X X return -1; X} X Xint Xpmsselect(dev, rw, p) X dev_t dev; X int rw; X struct proc *p; X{ X struct pms_softc *sc = pmscd.cd_devs[PMSUNIT(dev)]; X int s; X int ret; X X if (rw == FWRITE) X return 0; X X s = spltty(); X if (!sc->sc_q.c_cc) { X selrecord(p, &sc->sc_rsel); X ret = 0; X } else X ret = 1; X splx(s); X X return ret; X} END-of-pms.c exit From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 01:10:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06102 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 26 Jan 1995 17:19:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09825; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 17:05:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 17:05:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09809; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 17:05:49 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id OAA06197 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 14:04:42 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id OAA28007 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 14:00:24 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199501262200.OAA28007@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Buzzing/Interference w/ PCMCIA Modem? To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 14:00:22 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just got a new Practicial Peripheals PCMCIA modem and every time I plug in the phone cord (it has an X-jack type thingy) I get the nastiest, loud buzzing on the line (when I pickup an extension) which disappears again the minute I remove the phone cord from the XJack. EZPlay recognized the modem and in other respects it appears to function normally--its just that with that loud buzing noise I get when I hook up the phone cord, I cannot of course get a connection when dialing. Ideas? ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 01:10:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29676 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:16:11 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15631; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:16:54 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:16:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15620; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:16:50 -0500 Received: from @get.hooked.net (also.hooked.net [199.2.134.6]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA22072 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 15:16:45 -0800 Message-Id: <199501262316.PAA22072@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@get.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 15:17:43 -0800 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: Buzzing/Interference w/ PCMCIA Modem? At 02:00 PM 1/26/95 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > > I just got a new Practicial Peripheals PCMCIA modem and every >time I plug in the phone cord (it has an X-jack type thingy) I get the >nastiest, loud buzzing on the line (when I pickup an extension) which >disappears again the minute I remove the phone cord from the XJack. > > EZPlay recognized the modem and in other respects it appears to >function normally--its just that with that loud buzing noise I get when >I hook up the phone cord, I cannot of course get a connection when dialing. I had that same problem with my megahertz xjack, and I called them up and got a replacement.. no problems now. -- _________________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 01:10:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01307 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:21:20 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14452; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:04:24 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:04:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from texas.nynexst.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14433; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:04:20 -0500 Received: from insight.nynexst.com by texas.nynexst.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.nynexst) id AA00207; Thu, 26 Jan 95 18:01:41 EST Received: from localhost by insight.nynexst.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00452; Thu, 26 Jan 95 18:04:47 EST Message-Id: <9501262304.AA00452@insight.nynexst.com> To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Subject: Re: Buzzing/Interference w/ PCMCIA Modem? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 26 Jan 1995 14:00:22 PST." <199501262200.OAA28007@aludra.usc.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5omega 10/6/94 Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:04:46 -0500 From: Gen Cerf > > I just got a new Practicial Peripheals PCMCIA modem and every > time I plug in the phone cord (it has an X-jack type thingy) I get the > nastiest, loud buzzing on the line (when I pickup an extension) which > disappears again the minute I remove the phone cord from the XJack. My advice: get rid of it! I just got a 14.4 Kbps Megahertz modem with the same "X-jack type thingy" and it works fine. Just plugged it in. The difference might be that on the Megahertz product, it says SPECIFICALLY "Thinkpad proven", which I guess stands for something, not unlike the "dolphin free" sign on the tuna can... btw I don't really find your tuna joke that funny, but I was willing to help anyway! Gen -------------------------------------------- Genevieve Cerf, Ph.D. E.E. Speech Recognition & Language Understanding Services NYNEX Science & Technology 500 Westchester Avenue White Plains, NY 10604 (914) 644-2407 FAX: (914) 644-2211 gen@nynexst.com From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 01:10:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17261 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 26 Jan 1995 19:10:31 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18155; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:56:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:56:28 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18145; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:56:26 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id SAA17158; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:57:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:57:32 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP Subject: Re: Buzzing/Interference w/ PCMCIA Modem? In-Reply-To: <199501262200.OAA28007@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 26 Jan 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > I just got a new Practicial Peripheals PCMCIA modem and every > time I plug in the phone cord (it has an X-jack type thingy) I get the > nastiest, loud buzzing on the line (when I pickup an extension) which > disappears again the minute I remove the phone cord from the XJack. Others on comp.laptops have had this problem and had it rectified by replacing the modem. Seen it posted at least 3 times. Send it back and get another, it's the modem. I think the dolphin joke is pretty funny, myself. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1994 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 01:10:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09006 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 26 Jan 1995 21:44:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27829; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 21:39:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 21:39:35 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27819; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 21:39:28 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id SAA28007; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:38:56 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id SAA21069; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:36:34 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199501270236.SAA21069@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Buzzing/Interference w/ PCMCIA Modem? To: dwhite@shadow.net (Don Whiteside) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 18:36:32 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Don Whiteside" at Jan 26, 95 06:57:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I just got a new Practicial Peripheals PCMCIA modem and every > > time I plug in the phone cord (it has an X-jack type thingy) I get the > > nastiest, loud buzzing on the line (when I pickup an extension) which > > disappears again the minute I remove the phone cord from the XJack. > > Others on comp.laptops have had this problem and had it rectified by > replacing the modem. Seen it posted at least 3 times. Send it back and > get another, it's the modem. Maybe its a poor grounding connection? I noticed that the buzzing occurs the moment that the edges of the modem make contact with the sides/edges of the PCMCIA "bay", not just when plugged in. The minute it clears the bay and is no longer touching anything--no buzzing. (I'm monitoring this with an extension phone, by the way). Any other suggestions? What worries me is that I bought this thing from a private party--who may simply ignore me. I sent him a note, but he has not yet responded. I'm not against getting a replacement, but I want to make sure I *can* get a replacement. As someone pointed out, PPI filed Chapter 11--they may simply say, "We don't have to honor any warranty!". ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 12:18:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07890 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 01:25:15 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12727; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 01:36:31 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 01:36:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12716; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 01:36:28 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id WAA21013 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 22:34:08 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id WAA17471 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 22:29:58 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199501270629.WAA17471@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: RESOLVED! Buzzing w/ PCMCIA To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 22:29:57 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay folks, the buzzing was *not* specifically the modem. I got to thinking and realized the buzzing sound was electrical in nature. On a whim, I unplugged the A.C. adapter from the back of my TP 750C--no more buzzing. So as long as I work on battery without the AC plugged in, the modem works fine, right? ;) Well, that defeats at least part of the purpose, so that's not an acceptable solution. But at least I have an idea where the buzzing was coming from. Somehow, the AC current is probably not grounded properly, as it appears to have some sort of connection to the metal frame in the PCMCIA bay. It was when the metal modem edges made contact with this frame (and the computer is plugged in) that the buzzing occurs. Initially, I was inclined to poop on IBM and send it in for fixing. After all, there is an *obvious* problem in the grounding somewhere in the computer (which to me, makes it potentially dangerous). Then it occured to me--a *very* simple solution! Electrical tape. I put two strips of electrical tape on either edge of the modem, to cover its metal edges. I held my breath to see if I would have to continue to tape up the modem and cover all of it...but it worked! Thus far, the modem appears to perform just fine--I'm using it right now as I type this and my 750C is also plugged in to A.C. power. Case closed. :) Thank you to all that responded to my pleas for help, but y'all scared me unnecessarily! The real problem appears to be not with the modem, but the computer. Just as an aside--at least one person pointed out that replacement modem fixed his buzzing problem. I am curious--did it *look* physically different? Namely, was it designed in such a way that it had some plastic where there was previously metal? This would have accomplished the same thing that my electrical tape did. ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 12:18:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10976 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 08:42:46 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13240; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 08:43:45 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 08:43:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13230; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 08:43:38 -0500 From: Received: from PC1-Message_Server by BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU with WordPerfect_Office; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 08:43:21 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 08:41:37 -0500 To: FINN.GLOERSEN@aventura.noprmd.telemax.no, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Upgrade TP750CS -Reply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi !! Anybody have any knowledge of upgrading a Tp750Cs . Finn Gloersen finn.gloersen@aventura.telemax.no <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Recently had a talk with an IBM rep regarding this very thing. The processor assembly, at this time, is not upgradable. That is not to say that this won't change in the future. Yesterday, the another IBM rep informed me that the 755C , 755Cs will be discontinued! Things are a'changing! Robert Cahill From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 12:18:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09234 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 09:58:32 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16836; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 09:29:42 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 09:29:41 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns.GE.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16824; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 09:29:39 -0500 From: Received: from [3.29.7.8] by ns.GE.com (5.65/GE Gateway 1.32) with SMTP id AA02067; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 09:29:35 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 09:29:35 -0500 Message-Id: <9501271429.AA02067@ns.GE.com> Apparently-To: >From andy Fri Jan 27 09:29:38 EST 1995 remote from spencer.salem.ge.com Received: from spencer.salem.ge.com by salem.salem.ge.com; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 09:40 EST Received: by spencer.salem.ge.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.2) id ; Fri, 27 Jan 95 09:29 EST Message-Id: Date: Fri, 27 Jan 95 09:29:38 EST From: andy@spencer.salem.ge.com To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: USR Modem problems w/ TP750 X-Mailer: GE Openmail [version L1.0.4] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1610 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I've noticed something disturbing while testing some PCMCIA modems. I've used the MHZ XJ1144 & XJ2144 without any problems, but when I tested the USRobotics Worldport or Sportster 14400 modems they seem to lose characters at speeds above 9600. While we are using these modems in UNIX (I wrote a generic point enabler for the version we're using) I noticed the problem even in DOS with kermit or Procomm. If you connect to the modem at 19200, and issue an 'ati4' command to dump the modem settings, normally the columns line up. With the USR modems you often notice missing characters so the columns don't line up. Whats really scary, is that they work fine at high speed (38400) with my TP755; the problem only occurs on the TP750. I've contacted USR without success, but I strongly suspect its an IBM 'feature' since it isn't a problem on our 755s. Our usually responsive contact at IBM has been slient on the subject... Anyone else seen similar problems? -- GGGG EEEEE DDDD SSSS Andy Spencer G E D D S andy@spencer.salem.ge.com G GGG EEE D D SSSS (703) 387-7361 (Voice) G G E D D S (703) 387-8651 (Fax) GGGGG EEEEE DDDD SSSS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - GE Drive Systems 1501 Roanoke Blvd / Rm 287 Salem, VA 24153 ======================================================================= From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 12:18:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07480 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 11:01:40 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23241; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:38:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:38:17 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23222; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:38:13 -0500 Received: from localhost by dingo.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP id AA05361 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 28 Jan 1995 01:38:02 +1000 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 01:37:56 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson Subject: Key combinations and audio feedback. To: tp750 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've noticed something odd on my tp360. When I have sounds on, and type 'CD' (must be capitals and using the right shift key), I get a little 'blip'. Left shift or sounds off won't reproduce it. It's something I notice a lot, programming for a legal CD-ROM distributor. Also, C must be depressed while D is pressed. It works for a whole heap of other similar combinations - DC, ZA, XS etc... Just food for thought for all those hackers at heart out there. Oh once again, if anyone has sourced the X-Jack anywhere in Australia please let me know. Also if anyone has experience with the PCMCIA E7-F. - Rohan. From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 12:18:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14481 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 11:17:16 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22951; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:34:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:34:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22941; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:34:21 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id KAA25367; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:37:31 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:37:31 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP Subject: Re: Buzzing/Interference w/ PCMCIA Modem? In-Reply-To: <199501270236.SAA21069@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 26 Jan 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > Any other suggestions? What worries me is that I bought this > thing from a private party--who may simply ignore me. I sent him a note, > but he has not yet responded. I'm not against getting a replacement, but > I want to make sure I *can* get a replacement. As someone pointed > out, PPI filed Chapter 11--they may simply say, "We don't have to honor > any warranty!". If it's chap 11 and not 7, they want to stay in business and will continue to do basic things like warr and tech support. If it's the PPI with the easy jack, it's less than 1 year old and _must_ be in warr. Just call them and tell them what the problem is. If the person you bought it >from doesn't have another to swap it with, just call PPI. I bet they'll do it without argument. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1994 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 12:18:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15609 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 11:19:59 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22746; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:31:41 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:31:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from stortek.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22736; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:31:37 -0500 Received: from deathstar.stortek.com ([129.80.18.204]) by stortek.com with SMTP id AA23144 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 08:30:57 -0700 Received: from endor.stortek.com by deathstar.stortek.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-SESA-Main-0001) id AA17640; Fri, 27 Jan 95 08:30:57 MST Date: Fri, 27 Jan 95 08:30:57 MST From: ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) Message-Id: <9501271530.AA17640@deathstar.stortek.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: New 755C clicking I got a new 755C over the weekend and have just started using it and I noticed that every now and then the speaker clicks (kind of like what you'd hear turning a radio on or off). It's a little annoying and was wondering if I'm the only one... Lee Stewart From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 13:10:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24404 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 12:40:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27556; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 11:22:36 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 11:22:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27544; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 11:22:30 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id LAA27641; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 11:24:13 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 11:24:13 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Rohan Davidson Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: Key combinations and audio feedback. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 28 Jan 1995, Rohan Davidson wrote: > Also, C must be depressed while D is pressed. It works for a whole heap > of other similar combinations - DC, ZA, XS etc... > > Just food for thought for all those hackers at heart out there. Being a crappy typist, I have this happen a lot. It seems that any two key combos being depressed at the same time makes it beep. From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 12:18:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07890 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 01:25:15 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12727; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 01:36:31 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 01:36:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12716; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 01:36:28 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id WAA21013 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 22:34:08 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id WAA17471 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 22:29:58 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199501270629.WAA17471@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: RESOLVED! Buzzing w/ PCMCIA To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 22:29:57 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay folks, the buzzing was *not* specifically the modem. I got to thinking and realized the buzzing sound was electrical in nature. On a whim, I unplugged the A.C. adapter from the back of my TP 750C--no more buzzing. So as long as I work on battery without the AC plugged in, the modem works fine, right? ;) Well, that defeats at least part of the purpose, so that's not an acceptable solution. But at least I have an idea where the buzzing was coming from. Somehow, the AC current is probably not grounded properly, as it appears to have some sort of connection to the metal frame in the PCMCIA bay. It was when the metal modem edges made contact with this frame (and the computer is plugged in) that the buzzing occurs. Initially, I was inclined to poop on IBM and send it in for fixing. After all, there is an *obvious* problem in the grounding somewhere in the computer (which to me, makes it potentially dangerous). Then it occured to me--a *very* simple solution! Electrical tape. I put two strips of electrical tape on either edge of the modem, to cover its metal edges. I held my breath to see if I would have to continue to tape up the modem and cover all of it...but it worked! Thus far, the modem appears to perform just fine--I'm using it right now as I type this and my 750C is also plugged in to A.C. power. Case closed. :) Thank you to all that responded to my pleas for help, but y'all scared me unnecessarily! The real problem appears to be not with the modem, but the computer. Just as an aside--at least one person pointed out that replacement modem fixed his buzzing problem. I am curious--did it *look* physically different? Namely, was it designed in such a way that it had some plastic where there was previously metal? This would have accomplished the same thing that my electrical tape did. ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 12:18:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10976 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 08:42:46 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13240; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 08:43:45 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 08:43:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13230; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 08:43:38 -0500 From: Received: from PC1-Message_Server by BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU with WordPerfect_Office; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 08:43:21 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 08:41:37 -0500 To: FINN.GLOERSEN@aventura.noprmd.telemax.no, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Upgrade TP750CS -Reply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi !! Anybody have any knowledge of upgrading a Tp750Cs . Finn Gloersen finn.gloersen@aventura.telemax.no <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Recently had a talk with an IBM rep regarding this very thing. The processor assembly, at this time, is not upgradable. That is not to say that this won't change in the future. Yesterday, the another IBM rep informed me that the 755C , 755Cs will be discontinued! Things are a'changing! Robert Cahill From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 12:18:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09234 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 09:58:32 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16836; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 09:29:42 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 09:29:41 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns.GE.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16824; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 09:29:39 -0500 From: Received: from [3.29.7.8] by ns.GE.com (5.65/GE Gateway 1.32) with SMTP id AA02067; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 09:29:35 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 09:29:35 -0500 Message-Id: <9501271429.AA02067@ns.GE.com> Apparently-To: >From andy Fri Jan 27 09:29:38 EST 1995 remote from spencer.salem.ge.com Received: from spencer.salem.ge.com by salem.salem.ge.com; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 09:40 EST Received: by spencer.salem.ge.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.2) id ; Fri, 27 Jan 95 09:29 EST Message-Id: Date: Fri, 27 Jan 95 09:29:38 EST From: andy@spencer.salem.ge.com To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: USR Modem problems w/ TP750 X-Mailer: GE Openmail [version L1.0.4] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1610 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I've noticed something disturbing while testing some PCMCIA modems. I've used the MHZ XJ1144 & XJ2144 without any problems, but when I tested the USRobotics Worldport or Sportster 14400 modems they seem to lose characters at speeds above 9600. While we are using these modems in UNIX (I wrote a generic point enabler for the version we're using) I noticed the problem even in DOS with kermit or Procomm. If you connect to the modem at 19200, and issue an 'ati4' command to dump the modem settings, normally the columns line up. With the USR modems you often notice missing characters so the columns don't line up. Whats really scary, is that they work fine at high speed (38400) with my TP755; the problem only occurs on the TP750. I've contacted USR without success, but I strongly suspect its an IBM 'feature' since it isn't a problem on our 755s. Our usually responsive contact at IBM has been slient on the subject... Anyone else seen similar problems? -- GGGG EEEEE DDDD SSSS Andy Spencer G E D D S andy@spencer.salem.ge.com G GGG EEE D D SSSS (703) 387-7361 (Voice) G G E D D S (703) 387-8651 (Fax) GGGGG EEEEE DDDD SSSS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - GE Drive Systems 1501 Roanoke Blvd / Rm 287 Salem, VA 24153 ======================================================================= From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 12:18:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07480 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 11:01:40 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23241; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:38:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:38:17 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23222; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:38:13 -0500 Received: from localhost by dingo.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP id AA05361 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 28 Jan 1995 01:38:02 +1000 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 01:37:56 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson Subject: Key combinations and audio feedback. To: tp750 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've noticed something odd on my tp360. When I have sounds on, and type 'CD' (must be capitals and using the right shift key), I get a little 'blip'. Left shift or sounds off won't reproduce it. It's something I notice a lot, programming for a legal CD-ROM distributor. Also, C must be depressed while D is pressed. It works for a whole heap of other similar combinations - DC, ZA, XS etc... Just food for thought for all those hackers at heart out there. Oh once again, if anyone has sourced the X-Jack anywhere in Australia please let me know. Also if anyone has experience with the PCMCIA E7-F. - Rohan. From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 12:18:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14481 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 11:17:16 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22951; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:34:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:34:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22941; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:34:21 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id KAA25367; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:37:31 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:37:31 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP Subject: Re: Buzzing/Interference w/ PCMCIA Modem? In-Reply-To: <199501270236.SAA21069@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 26 Jan 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > Any other suggestions? What worries me is that I bought this > thing from a private party--who may simply ignore me. I sent him a note, > but he has not yet responded. I'm not against getting a replacement, but > I want to make sure I *can* get a replacement. As someone pointed > out, PPI filed Chapter 11--they may simply say, "We don't have to honor > any warranty!". If it's chap 11 and not 7, they want to stay in business and will continue to do basic things like warr and tech support. If it's the PPI with the easy jack, it's less than 1 year old and _must_ be in warr. Just call them and tell them what the problem is. If the person you bought it >from doesn't have another to swap it with, just call PPI. I bet they'll do it without argument. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1994 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 12:18:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15609 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 11:19:59 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22746; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:31:41 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:31:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from stortek.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22736; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:31:37 -0500 Received: from deathstar.stortek.com ([129.80.18.204]) by stortek.com with SMTP id AA23144 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 08:30:57 -0700 Received: from endor.stortek.com by deathstar.stortek.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-SESA-Main-0001) id AA17640; Fri, 27 Jan 95 08:30:57 MST Date: Fri, 27 Jan 95 08:30:57 MST From: ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) Message-Id: <9501271530.AA17640@deathstar.stortek.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: New 755C clicking I got a new 755C over the weekend and have just started using it and I noticed that every now and then the speaker clicks (kind of like what you'd hear turning a radio on or off). It's a little annoying and was wondering if I'm the only one... Lee Stewart From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 13:10:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24404 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 12:40:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27556; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 11:22:36 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 11:22:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27544; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 11:22:30 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id LAA27641; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 11:24:13 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 11:24:13 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Rohan Davidson Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: Key combinations and audio feedback. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 28 Jan 1995, Rohan Davidson wrote: > Also, C must be depressed while D is pressed. It works for a whole heap > of other similar combinations - DC, ZA, XS etc... > > Just food for thought for all those hackers at heart out there. Being a crappy typist, I have this happen a lot. It seems that any two key combos being depressed at the same time makes it beep. From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 13:33:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08864 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 13:12:15 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23202; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:37:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:37:53 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23192; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:37:51 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id KAA25619; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:41:02 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:41:02 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP Subject: Re: RESOLVED! Buzzing w/ PCMCIA In-Reply-To: <199501270629.WAA17471@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 26 Jan 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > Case closed. :) Thank you to all that responded to my pleas > for help, but y'all scared me unnecessarily! The real problem appears to > be not with the modem, but the computer. I'm still inclined to think it's a modem issue. The modem may be picking up some interference from the voltage regulator, but I bet that if you borrow someone else's modem and try it you won't have the same problem. You may want to consider that the modem may be SUPPOSED to be grounded through the edges.... > Just as an aside--at least one person pointed out that replacement > modem fixed his buzzing problem. I am curious--did it *look* physically > different? Namely, was it designed in such a way that it had some plastic > where there was previously metal? This would have accomplished the same > thing that my electrical tape did. I mentioned that several people on comp.sys.laptops have described this problem and had it fixed by a replacement unit. Beyond that, I have no From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 13:45:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08864 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 13:12:15 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23202; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:37:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:37:53 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23192; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:37:51 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id KAA25619; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:41:02 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 10:41:02 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP Subject: Re: RESOLVED! Buzzing w/ PCMCIA In-Reply-To: <199501270629.WAA17471@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 26 Jan 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > Case closed. :) Thank you to all that responded to my pleas > for help, but y'all scared me unnecessarily! The real problem appears to > be not with the modem, but the computer. I'm still inclined to think it's a modem issue. The modem may be picking up some interference from the voltage regulator, but I bet that if you borrow someone else's modem and try it you won't have the same problem. You may want to consider that the modem may be SUPPOSED to be grounded through the edges.... > Just as an aside--at least one person pointed out that replacement > modem fixed his buzzing problem. I am curious--did it *look* physically > different? Namely, was it designed in such a way that it had some plastic > where there was previously metal? This would have accomplished the same > thing that my electrical tape did. I mentioned that several people on comp.sys.laptops have described this problem and had it fixed by a replacement unit. Beyond that, I have no idea. You could post there and see what kind of responses you get... From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 17:15:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04166 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 15:10:59 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07597; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 13:04:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 13:04:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07581; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 13:04:27 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA22245; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 12:04:20 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 13:04:49 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <47090.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Key combinations and audio feedback. In message Sat, 28 Jan 1995 01:37:56 +1000 (GMT+1000), Rohan Davidson writes: > I've noticed something odd on my tp360. When I have sounds on, and type > 'CD' (must be capitals and using the right shift key), I get a little > 'blip'. Left shift or sounds off won't reproduce it. It's something I > notice a lot, programming for a legal CD-ROM distributor. > > Also, C must be depressed while D is pressed. It works for a whole heap > of other similar combinations - DC, ZA, XS etc... Gee, thanks. I've been wondering why my 750 blips sometimes when I pushed left-arrow, up-arrow, right-arrow real fast in tin. I hadn't been able to reproduce it until now. If this doesn't get answered in a week or so I'll fire off a message to IBM Japan. _____________________________________________________________________ |\ ____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "God knows what she could've gotten my mother to say." | | | jokim@mit.edu - Bill Clinton to Newt Gingrich, on Connie Chung | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu jokim@tuna.mit.edu does not work (yet) | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 17:15:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06738 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 15:16:32 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08640; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 13:19:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 13:19:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ux3.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08629; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 13:19:00 -0500 Received: from colt-17.slip.uiuc.edu by ux3.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08752 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 12:17:51 -0600 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 12:17:51 -0600 Message-Id: <199501271817.AA08752@ux3.cso.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou (Sean Chou) Subject: Refurbished Thinkpads Here's an interesting not I saw on the TP500 mail list. >From: "Peter J. Kunz" >Subject: tp 500 availability update >To: ibm-tp500@virginia.edu >Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 18:26:16 +0100 (NFT) >Content-Length: 7091 > > OUR 800 # ....... 1-800-426-7015: > > > * OPEN NOW FOR YOUR CALLS: > > 9AM - 7:00PM EST Monday-Friday > > > REFURBISHED MODELS > > > MODEL PROC/MHZ COND MEM HD SCREEN/TYPE ORIG MODEL PRICE > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 2603-4Y3 486SLC2-50 RFRB 4MB 85MB 7.4"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 500 $ 659 > 2618-4Y7 486SL-25 RFRB 4MB 125MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD PS/NOTE M40 $ 799 > 2603-4Y4 486SLC2-50 RFRB 4MB 170MB 7.4"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 500 $ 899 > 2618-4Y8 486SL-25 RFRB 4MB 170MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD PS/NOTE M41 $ 949 > 2618-4Y1 486SL-25 RFRB 4MB 125MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 350 $ 999 > > 2618-4YA 486SL-25 RFRB 4MB 252MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD PS/NOTE M42 $1029 > 2618-4Y5 486SL-25 RFRB 4MB 125MB 9.2"/VGA/COLOR PS/NOTE C45 $1269 > 9552-4Y4 486SLC2-50 RFRB 4MB 120MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 720 $1335 > 9552-4Y5 486SLC2-50 RFRB 4MB 160MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 720 $1445 > 2618-4Y2 486SL-25 RFRB 4MB 125MB 9.2"/VGA/COLOR THINKPAD 350C $1479 > 9545-4YA 486SL-33 RFRB 4MB 170MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 750 $1699 > 2618-4Y4 486SL-25 RFRB 4MB 250MB 9.2"/VGA/COLOR THINKPAD 350C $1889 > > 9545-4YB 486SL-33 RFRB 4MB 340MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 750 $1999 > 9545-4YC 486SL-33 RFRB 4MB 170MB 9.5"/VGA/COLOR THINKPAD 750CS $2049 > 9545-4YD 486SL-33 RFRB 4MB 340MB 9.5"/VGA/COLOR THINKPAD 750CS $2549 > 9552-4Y3 486SLC-25 RFRB 4MB 120MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 700C $2759 > 9552-4Y6 486SLC2-50 RFRB 4MB 160MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 720C $2979 > 9545-4YE 486SL-33 RFRB 4MB 170MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 750C $3199 > 9545-4YF 486SL-33 RFRB 4MB 340MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 750C $3499 > > > ** MONITORS * > > > MAXIMUM MAXI DOT SWIVEL > MODEL COND TYPE RESOLUTN COLORS PITCH GRAPHICS STAND PRICE > -------- ---- --------- -------- ------ ----- -------- ----- ----- > 6318-00J RFRB 14" COLOR* 1024x768 UNLTD .39 SVGA YES $245 > 5179327 RFRB 14" COLOR* 1024x768 UNLTD .39 SVGA YES $279 > 5179326 RFRB 14" COLOR* 1024x768 UNLTD .28 SVGA YES $309 > 59G7871 NEW 14" COLOR* 1024x768 UNLTD .28 SVGA YES $375 > > > **ANYONE CAN OBTAIN THIS PRICE LIST VIA FAX 24 HRS A DAY! JUST: > > 1. CALL 1-800-426-3395 > 2. PRESS OPTION #1 (END-USER) > 3. PRESS OPTION #1 > 4. PRESS OPTION #1 AGAIN TO ENTER YOUR DOCUMENT # > 5. ENTER 3001 AND THE # KEY WHEN ASKED FOR DOCUMENT NUMBER. > 6. Follow voice instructions. > > > > **TO ORDER LITERATURE ON THE ABOVE SYSTEMS, USE OUR AUTOMATED FAX SYSTEM > **THE FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS: > 1. CALL 1-800-426-3395. > 2. PRESS OPTION #1 (END-USER). > 3. PRESS OPTION #1 > 4. PRESS OPTION #1 AGAIN TO ENTER YOUR DOCUMENT # > 5. SELECT FAXBACK DOCUMENT # FROM BELOW (UP TO 5) > 6. FOLLOW VOICE INSTRUCTIONS. > > > > > Doc.# Part# Model / Description Pages > --------------------------------------------------------------- > 60046 9552-307/308 THINKPAD 720 1 > 11427 9545-XXX THINKPAD 750 OVERVIEW 1 > 11365 9545-XXX THINKPAD 750 BROCHURE 10 > 11377 2603-XXX THINKPAD 500 BROCHURE 5 > 60039 6384-XXX Valuepoint Fall 93 Models 1 > 60041 6381-XXX Valuepoint Si Models 1 > 60031 OS/2 2.1 OS/2 2.1 Compared to Win3.1 1 > > 18520 2133-18T PS/1 Standard Features 1 > 18522 2155-24C " 1 > 18672 2155-50T " 1 > 18534 2155-52C " 1 > 18674 2155-74T " 1 > 18543 2155-76C " 1 > 18547 2155-84T " 1 > 18678 2168-31E " 1 > 18679 2168-33T " 1 > 18681 2168-51E " 1 > 18680 2168-54T " 1 > > >and yes, i am affiliated with ibm :-) > >cu >-pete > > > > --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / CompuServe 73672,2111 From ???@??? Fri Jan 27 17:47:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01432 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 17:20:16 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24762; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 16:39:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 16:38:59 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24663; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 16:38:44 -0500 Received: from [192.70.249.42] (mac42.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA28970; Fri, 27 Jan 95 16:38:35 EST Message-Id: <9501272138.AA28970@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 17:43:46 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: WARP plug'n play irq setting I'm running WARP on a TP750 with tcpip 2.0 over a 3com 3c589 PCMCIA lan adaptor. Everything runs great, except that card services wants to set the IRQ for this card to 7. IRQ 7 turns out also to be used by LPT1. I hadn't had any problems until today, when I tried to run backmaster 1.1 over lpt1 to my tape backup. The program senses that IRQ 7 is in use, and exits with a warning. I have looked everywhere, and tried everything to get the IRQ to set to 5 (which is free). I've gone through all the docs I can find, and IBM tech support (level 1), but I can't get OS2 to avoid sharing IRQ7. It's time to ask the real experts. Does anybody on the list have any insights? ------------------------------------------------------------ Victor Kress Carnegie Institution of Washington, Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 ------------------------------------------------------------ From ???@??? Sat Jan 28 17:01:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12744 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 19:31:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06845; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 19:38:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 19:38:47 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06831; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 19:38:45 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA00510; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 18:38:39 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 19:39:08 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <70749.jokim@mit.edu> To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: WARP plug'n play irq setting In message Fri, 27 Jan 1995 17:43:46 +0100, kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) writes: > I'm running WARP on a TP750 with tcpip 2.0 over a 3com 3c589 PCMCIA lan > adaptor. Everything runs great, except that card services wants to set > the IRQ for this card to 7. IRQ 7 turns out also to be used by LPT1. I > hadn't had any problems until today, when I tried to run backmaster 1.1 > over lpt1 to my tape backup. The program senses that IRQ 7 is in use, > and exits with a warning. I have looked everywhere, and tried everything > to get the IRQ to set to 5 (which is free). I presume you have LAPS installed since TCP/IP 2.0 uses LAPS. Go to the IBMCOM directory and manually edit your protocol.ini file. One of the options should be interrupt. You can also set this via LAPS configuration. Go to the IBMCOM directory, type 'laps' and select 'configure'. Select 'configure LAN transports.' Your 3com card should be the selected device on the bottom. Click on 'edit' and you should get to set the options in your protocol.ini. That should work unless 3com has their own drivers which bypass LAPS. _____________________________________________________________________ |\ ____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "God knows what she could've gotten my mother to say." | | | jokim@mit.edu - Bill Clinton to Newt Gingrich, on Connie Chung | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu jokim@tuna.mit.edu does not work (yet) | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Sat Jan 28 17:01:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21160 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 20:12:49 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08616; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 20:18:01 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 20:17:59 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08606; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 20:17:57 -0500 Received: from @get.hooked.net (webe.hooked.net [199.2.134.9]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA09842 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 17:17:53 -0800 Message-Id: <199501280117.RAA09842@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@get.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 17:18:59 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: New 755C clicking >I got a new 755C over the weekend and have just started using it and I >noticed that every now and then the speaker clicks (kind of like what >you'd hear turning a radio on or off). It's a little annoying and was >wondering if I'm the only one... I have a 755cs, it does the same thing, very faint. I assumed it was my pcmcia modem. -- _________________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From ???@??? Sat Jan 28 17:01:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10648 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 Jan 1995 21:48:59 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14195; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 21:54:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 21:54:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14172; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 21:54:29 -0500 Received: from localhost by dingo.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP id AA14034 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 28 Jan 1995 12:54:26 +1000 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 12:54:20 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson Subject: RE: Key combinations and audio feedback. To: tp750 In-Reply-To: <47090.jokim@mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 27 Jan 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > Gee, thanks. I've been wondering why my 750 blips sometimes when I pushed > left-arrow, up-arrow, right-arrow real fast in tin. I hadn't been able to > reproduce it until now. If this doesn't get answered in a week or so I'll > fire off a message to IBM Japan. I think I've created a monster. Also, Don Whiteside wrote that any two key combinations trigger it. From a little experimentation, it still only works with right shift and seems to be isolated to the ASDF and ZXCV rows of the keyboard, and the left-up-right arrow combinations are the only arrow combinations I can find to reproduce it. And now back to normal programming... From ???@??? Sun Jan 29 01:43:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25168 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 28 Jan 1995 18:58:45 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26524; Sat, 28 Jan 1995 19:22:29 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 28 Jan 1995 19:22:28 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26514; Sat, 28 Jan 1995 19:22:26 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA06072; Sat, 28 Jan 95 16:22:18 PST Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1(1/24/94)/SMI-4.1) id AA25248; Sat, 28 Jan 95 02:17:49 PST Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02831; Sat, 28 Jan 1995 02:17:48 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01622; Sat, 28 Jan 1995 02:17:56 -0800 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 02:17:56 -0800 From: cmcmanis@scndprsn.eng.sun.com (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9501281017.AA01622@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: cs322612@mailbox.uq.oz.au, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Key combinations and audio feedback. > I think I've created a monster. No, just discovered a "feature" of the keyboard scanning hardware. The keyboard doesn't have 'n' key rollover, any three key combination that the keyboard scanner can't figure out which keys are really pressed causes it to send a beep to the speaker to alert you that it probably just lost one of your key strokes. This takes a bit of imagination but if you look at the keyboard as a series of vertical rows (slanted to the left) and horizontal rows it forms a grid. A vertical row is composed of the keys 1-Q-A-Z-Alt, the next one is 2-W-S-X-SPACE, moving one key to the right until you get to the end. The horizontal rows are 1-2-3-4 ... and A-S-D-F... etc. Ok, now imagine this as a grid and pick any 3 keys that would touch three corners of a square. If you realize that the way the keyboard is scanned is by turning on a column line and looking at the row lines, you'll notice that when the three corners of a square are pressed, there is no way to figure out whether or not the key that would make up the fourth corner is also pressed. Now on cheaper keyboards this is sometimes called the frlom bug. If you look you'll see that F-R-O meets the criteria above and when the scanner gets confused it doesn't know whether or not you've pressed the 'l' key. On a cheap keyboard it just sends an L press since you might have pressed it. People two try to type "from" to fast get "frlom" in the input stream. Not so our trusty ThinkPad, it beeps to tell you that it has no idea whether you're pressing O or L so it sends neither and beeps at you. --Chuck From ???@??? Sun Jan 29 01:43:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02373 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 28 Jan 1995 19:43:36 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27933; Sat, 28 Jan 1995 20:02:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 28 Jan 1995 20:02:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27923; Sat, 28 Jan 1995 20:02:53 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id UAA24572; Sat, 28 Jan 1995 20:06:02 -0500 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 20:06:02 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Roger Buffington Cc: All@netcom.com, ThinkPad 750 Mailing List Subject: Re: Info on upgrading my 755 CS HDD In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 28 Jan 1995, Roger Buffington wrote: > I can't live with just 170MB on my TP 755CS any more. Gonna upgrade to > either a 340MB or 540 MB. I have two questions. Apologies in advance if > this is a faq. > > 1) I recall from last summer that the list has a $ discount with Sigma > Data, but there is a particular salesman to ask for. Could someone give > me his name and fone #. Information on both the Sigma Data deal and drive swaps in the original case can be found at http://shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad.html. If you don't have WWW access, mail me and I'll send you the pertinent archived messages. From ???@??? Tue Jan 31 14:53:48 1995 Received: from faroe.vp.uiuc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04081 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 29 Jan 1995 13:09:21 -0600 Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by faroe.vp.uiuc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA16273; Sun, 29 Jan 1995 13:09:17 -0600 Received: from Virginia.EDU by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa28302; 29 Jan 95 13:56 EST Received: from zeus.unizh.ch by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa28296; 29 Jan 95 13:55 EST Received: by zeus.unizh.ch (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA06923; Sun, 29 Jan 1995 19:49:16 +0100 From: "Peter J. Kunz" Message-Id: <9501291849.AA06923@zeus.unizh.ch> Subject: Re: Best PCMCIA modem for TP500? To: "Henry T. Stein, Ph.D." Date: Sun, 29 Jan 1995 19:49:16 +0100 (NFT) Cc: ibm-tp500@virginia.edu In-Reply-To: <199501281923.LAA15874@cello.gina.calstate.edu> from "Henry T. Stein, Ph.D." at Jan 28, 95 11:52:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 955 > > Can anyone suggest the best, easy to install, complication-free, PCMCIA > modem for the TP500? I have 8MB of RAM, a 170 HD, and Stacker 4.0. I could > probably get by with a 14,000 bps unit. a few weeks ago, i'd have dared saying any pcmcia modem. turns out it's not that trivial, especially at high speeds and using hibernation and such. seems none work properly with warp and hibernation. i got a megahertz xjack cause it got some good reviews on the net, as well as good reviews on mhz tech support. turns out it's quite good via email, although it takes em a while to get back. 800 number might be quicker, but i can't use that.big plus on the mhz line is they're thinkpad proven and as such also have a 5 year warranty. in case anyone is looking for a mhz non xj, nw but without any additional materiual for $110, i have a contact in texas. just email. also look into misc.forsale.portables.pc-compatible for used pcmcia modems cu -pete From ???@??? Tue Jan 31 14:54:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29492 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 29 Jan 1995 21:12:27 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29758; Sun, 29 Jan 1995 21:24:30 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 29 Jan 1995 21:24:28 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29748; Sun, 29 Jan 1995 21:24:25 -0500 Received: from @get.hooked.net (also.hooked.net [199.2.134.6]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA20806 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 1995 18:24:20 -0800 Message-Id: <199501300224.SAA20806@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@get.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 29 Jan 1995 18:26:52 -0800 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: WWW Sites My bookmark list is on my homepage, has lotsa fun stuff.. http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse -- _________________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From ???@??? Tue Jan 31 14:54:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22248 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 Jan 1995 05:14:04 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA04503; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 05:29:41 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 05:29:40 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA04492; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 05:29:34 -0500 Received: by chorus.chorus.fr; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 11:28:58 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 11:28:58 +0100 From: Stephane Eranian Message-Id: <199501301028.AA22324@chorus.chorus.fr> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Memory Extension Clones..... I have called several memory resellers here in PARIS. I have been proposed a clone at a reasonable price. The memory is produced by Transcend (I certainely misspelled it). I wonder if somebody on the list knows this vendor ? Thanks for your help. -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Tue Jan 31 14:54:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15146 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 Jan 1995 08:53:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15512; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 08:49:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 08:49:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15493; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 08:48:49 -0500 Received: from efd.lth.se [130.235.49.12] (elg-2.efd.lth.se) by kobra.efd.lth.se with smtp (perl jhmail 0.20) (rfc1413: f91el@elg-2.efd.lth.se) id 2f2cedee_6592_1 ; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 14:47:26 MET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 14:47:20 MET From: Erik Lindahl To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: NeXTSTEP 3.3 on Thinkpads? Hi, Maybe some of you have noticed that version 3.3 of NeXTSTEP has been released - and there is a driver for WD90C24 graphics! Of course, this doesnoesn't mean that it will work on the thinkpad (750-series), but if it does, it means 8-bit colour. (Prior versions only supportetd 2-bit), black & white.) , and .)  Now, has anybody tried this, or do you know someone who has? (That ios v, version 3.3;: the I dontt't think the earlier will work on the TP,s~'s! Regards, Erik From ???@??? Tue Jan 31 14:54:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23010 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 Jan 1995 11:30:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24833; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 10:57:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 10:57:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from stortek.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24815; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 10:56:59 -0500 Received: from deathstar.stortek.com ([129.80.18.204]) by stortek.com with SMTP id AA10281 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 30 Jan 1995 08:56:26 -0700 Received: from endor.stortek.com by deathstar.stortek.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-SESA-Main-0001) id AA08229; Mon, 30 Jan 95 08:51:54 MST Date: Mon, 30 Jan 95 08:51:54 MST From: ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) Message-Id: <9501301551.AA08229@deathstar.stortek.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: New 755C clicking > I have a 755cs, it does the same thing, very faint. I assumed it was my > pcmcia modem. Well mine doesn't have any PCMCIA cards (yet), nor have I added to or changed any of the software, or anything else... Lee Stewart From ???@??? Tue Jan 31 14:54:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20887 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 Jan 1995 15:36:28 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14653; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 14:56:00 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 14:55:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14637; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 14:55:51 -0500 Received: from @get.hooked.net (webe.hooked.net [199.2.134.9]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA21048 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 11:55:44 -0800 Message-Id: <199501301955.LAA21048@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@get.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 11:58:23 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: ITO: battery alert on tv! I love it, I've got the simpson trial on (just killing time before perry mason :) and judge ito, who has a new thinkpad (I heard ibm gave it to him as promo) had to quickly suspend it when it started making the familiar (to this list) two-tone, london-police-siren-sounding low battery warning.. [insert your joke here] -- _________________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From ???@??? Tue Jan 31 14:54:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23790 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 Jan 1995 16:43:22 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14667; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 14:55:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 14:55:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14649; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 14:55:55 -0500 Received: from @get.hooked.net (webe.hooked.net [199.2.134.9]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA21059 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 11:55:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199501301955.LAA21059@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@get.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 11:58:28 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.3 on Thinkpads? What the hell kinda character set are you using? :) I remember CLAIMS that the older (3.0?) version of next was running on a 750. I was following several next/laptop newsgroups, and saw several different people who claimed to have it running. Never seen it myself. I've thought about it, but the outrageous price for a development version (I think it came to either $2k or $3k?) I'd love to try it. >Maybe some of you have noticed that version 3.3 of NeXTSTEP has been >released - and there is a driver for WD90C24 graphics! > >Of course, this doesnoesn't mean that it will work on the thinkpad (750-series), >but if it does, it means 8-bit colour. (Prior versions only supportetd 2-bit), >black & white.) , and .)  > >Now, has anybody tried this, or do you know someone who has? > >(That ios v, version 3.3;: the I dontt't think the earlier will work on the TP,s~'s! > >Regards, > >Erik > > -- _________________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From ???@??? Tue Jan 31 14:54:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15892 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 Jan 1995 17:25:56 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23088; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 16:40:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 16:40:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23028; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 16:40:07 -0500 Received: from @get.hooked.net (webe.hooked.net [199.2.134.9]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA02581 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 13:15:10 -0800 Message-Id: <199501302115.NAA02581@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@get.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 13:17:48 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.3 on Thinkpads? At 11:58 AM 1/30/95 -0800, jesse montrose wrote: >What the hell kinda character set are you using? :) >>Of course, this doesnoesn't mean that it will work on the thinkpad I just realized they were backspaces :) -- _________________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From ???@??? Tue Jan 31 14:54:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02221 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 Jan 1995 17:58:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25005; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 17:04:42 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 17:04:40 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24994; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 17:04:39 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu by usc.edu (4.1/SMI-3.0DEV3-USC+3.1) id AA10307; Mon, 30 Jan 95 14:04:28 PST Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id NAA23242; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 13:59:23 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199501302159.NAA23242@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: ITO: battery alert on tv! To: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 13:59:20 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199501301955.LAA21048@get.hooked.net> from "jesse montrose" at Jan 30, 95 11:58:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I love it, I've got the simpson trial on (just killing time before perry > mason :) and judge ito, who has a new thinkpad (I heard ibm gave it to him > as promo) had to quickly suspend it when it started making the familiar (to > this list) two-tone, london-police-siren-sounding low battery warning.. I noticed that in the early stages of the trial, he was using a white Toshiba. Funny that he switched! ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Tue Jan 31 14:54:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16031 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 Jan 1995 18:25:45 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27539; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 17:38:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 17:38:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27529; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 17:38:29 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA16816; Mon, 30 Jan 95 14:38:19 PST Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1(1/24/94)/SMI-4.1) id AA11408; Mon, 30 Jan 95 14:38:14 PST Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA07123; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 14:38:13 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05065; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 14:38:22 -0800 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 14:38:22 -0800 From: cmcmanis@scndprsn.eng.sun.com (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9501302238.AA05065@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: the battery alert X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Just what does it mean when your battery goes into "alert" mode? I had never heard the two-tone alert with flashing battery led until about a week ago. I took out my freshly charged TP, turned it on and it started complaining. I looked at the fuelgauge which read 8:88 remaining (which is its way of saying it didn't know). After a while it stopped and the fuel gauage went back to normal. What was it trying to tell me? --Chuck From ???@??? Tue Jan 31 14:54:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17858 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 Jan 1995 18:29:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27941; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 17:43:17 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 17:43:15 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27931; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 17:43:10 -0500 Received: from @get.hooked.net (webe.hooked.net [199.2.134.9]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA14093; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 14:39:11 -0800 Message-Id: <199501302239.OAA14093@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@get.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 14:41:49 -0800 To: Randal Whittle From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: ITO: battery alert on tv! Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) At 01:59 PM 1/30/95 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > I noticed that in the early stages of the trial, he was using a >white Toshiba. Funny that he switched! Yeah, I noticed that too, seems reasonable that the rumor of ibm giving it to him could be true :) Great strategy, wonder what OS he runs? I'd like to hear some beavis and butthead sounds come out as an error message :) -- _________________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From ???@??? Tue Jan 31 14:55:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02020 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 Jan 1995 20:48:31 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09005; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 20:33:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 20:33:12 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08995; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 20:33:10 -0500 Received: from M11-113-2.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA03811; Mon, 30 Jan 95 20:33:04 EST Received: by m11-113-2.MIT.EDU (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.7) id AA20111; Mon, 30 Jan 1995 20:32:56 -0500 Message-Id: <9501310132.AA20111@m11-113-2.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: IBM "promo" techniques... Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 20:32:54 EST From: Arturo J Morales I also noticed (only when watching the news :) that they placed a white piece of paper on the back of Judge Ito's TP that said (i think) IBM 340... I guess it was too hard to read the normal IBM logo in the back of the unit when seen on tv :) If I recall correctly that sticker wasn't in place during the early parts of the hearings... PS: I haven't sat down and watched the trial, but it is not easy to avoid hearing about the trial on TV, then again, I'm a grad student... What the hell am i doing watching TV??????? Art Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | ajm1@mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://www.mit.edu:8001/afs/athena.mit.edu/user/a/j/ajm1/www/top.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "That Person you see in the Mirror is made up of D-Amino Acids" --C.P. From ???@??? Tue Jan 31 14:55:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21260 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 31 Jan 1995 09:33:14 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00762; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 09:05:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 09:05:50 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ub-gate.UB.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00749; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 09:05:48 -0500 Received: from garfield (garfield.UB.com) by ub-gate.UB.com (4.1/SMI-4.1[UB-1.9.1]) id AA19859; Tue, 31 Jan 95 06:05:07 PST Received: from smtp.UB.com ([128.203.7.39]) by garfield (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20378; Tue, 31 Jan 95 06:04:52 PST Received: by smtp.UB.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.0)/1.2) id AA6049; Tue, 31 Jan 95 06:06:10 -0800 Message-Id: <9501311406.AA6049@smtp.UB.com> Received: from UB with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id F46ACDFB758756DE85256155004CFF7C; Tue, 31 Jan 95 06:06:10 To: tp750 From: Ken Yee/UB Networks Date: 31 Jan 95 9:04:09 EDT Subject: RE: IBM "promo" techniques... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain > white piece of paper on the back of Judge Ito's TP that said (i think) > IBM 340... I guess it was too hard to read the normal IBM logo in the back Sounds like IBM PCCo marketing is on track (at least better than OS/2's lame marketing with people talking about Warp in broad terms). I just saw an excellent thinkpad commercial where they showed various other brands and how their ergonomics just weren't as good as the Thinkpad's...it was concise and made a good point. > hearing about the trial on TV, then again, I'm a grad student... What the > hell am i doing watching TV??????? Enjoy it while you can...it's gets worse after you start working 10 hour days :-( ken From ???@??? Tue Jan 31 14:55:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28232 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 31 Jan 1995 13:05:45 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17708; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 12:21:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 12:20:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17697; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 12:20:56 -0500 Received: from lochness.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA27337; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 11:20:13 -0600 Received: by lochness.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA102857; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 11:20:10 -0600 From: rol@uhc.com (Roleigh Martin) Message-Id: <9501311720.AA102857@lochness.uhc.com> Subject: Help setting up/advising int'l road warriors To: CCMAIL-L@VM1.ucc.okstate.edu (mailing list), ibm-tp500@virginia.edu (thinkpad 500 list group), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (IBM 750 newsgroup) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 11:20:10 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Help! Need advice for how corporate headquarters can stay in touch with their exec's wherever they go around the world: Types of help sought: 1. Some type of knowledge-database/massive textfile (maybe with graphics/pictures) that deals with road warrior questions (see below). If you know of any downloadable files on CIS or the Internet (via FTP or via Mosaic), please provide file acquisition information! 2. Else, some type of handbook that does the same as #1. 3. List of minimal items to buy to competently equip an inter- national road warrior (ALSO recommended places to order from who have the gear on the shelve to sell/ship immediately). 4. Failing obtaining #1/#3 or #2/#3, a name of a consultant or consulting company that can help with the above tasks. Even if you do post info on items 1-3, if you know of a good con- sultant, please post your recommendation. We do have a little budget for paying a consultant. Please reply by email to my personal mail box, I've posted this help request to so many relevant CIS and Internet areas. Types of questions our international road warriors have: A. What international dialing services let me dial using a modem without having to go through a voice-operator (ie, MCI in Germany lets us dial direct to the states; ATT in Germany doesn't, a voice operator always comes online)? A country by country, service by service matrix or list would be great! B. What modem init strings are needed for different countries/dialing services? For instance, we found out this about Germany: "I have been playing around with modems endlessly, and have two tidbits that may be useful to you. I found that I need to set ATB0&G1 to work with European phone systems. B0 sets the phone communication standard (CCITT), and G1 sets the use of guard tones to 550 Hz (I don't know what this is)." C. When one has a choice of multiple long distance network carriers to connect to Compuserve in a country, such as South Africa, which carrier has the better reputation for connectivity ease; line reliability? D. Which is better; pocket modem or PCMCIA modem cards for broadest international use? What brand/model # provides the broadest modem support throughout the world? What paging/telecommunication (radio) service is best recommended? Contact information, please. E. What is a good fallback communication solution--ie, any good message or verbal paging solution that works worldwide? F. What is the best gateway/routing solution for a corporation who uses CC:MAIL and is on the Internet and has a corporate Compu- Serve account as well? How is it easiest for one to get his or her mail regardless of where he or she is? G. Are there any international technical help consulting centers for dealing with connectivity problems--one knows that American Express is always around for financial problems; how about who is available (for a fee, of course) for connectivity problems? H. I have an old PC Magazine laptop road warrior handout that is about 6 pages long that shows a variety of things, including what electrical adaptors to use in which countries. Who is keeping this type of information updated and who is the best mail-order source in the USA to obtain such adaptors/cords quickly and who know what is needed for IBM Thinkpads, NEC Versas, or Toshiba notebooks. I. We do have HP 200 palmtops too and am using it's CC:MAIL. Any international users with HP 100/200 palmtop experience would be appreciated too. J. We're open to switching notebook brands for future purchases of which their will be plenty of such purchases; does anyone have a better recommendation for international traveling/support? K. Anything that I may have left out? I am posting this to the following places -- are there other good places to post this to on Compuserve and the Internet: Compaq, Toshiba, Thinkpad, Palmtop A, Palmtop B, HPHAND, WIRELESS, LOTUSCOMM, TAPCIS, DVORAK on Compuserve comp.sys.palmtops, comp.sys.laptops, comp.dcom.modems on the Internet Thanks! -- Roleigh Martin, Rt. MN06-6130 Opinions are mine not UHC | UHC, Advanced Technology AT&T/vmail: (612) 945-6529| 9705 Data Park Drive FAX: (612) 945-6502| Minnetonka, MN 55343 Email: rol@lochness.uhc.com| From ???@??? Tue Jan 31 14:54:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18078 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 29 Jan 1995 20:22:56 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26237; Sun, 29 Jan 1995 20:28:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 29 Jan 1995 20:28:19 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26227; Sun, 29 Jan 1995 20:28:17 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id RAA10778; Sun, 29 Jan 1995 17:28:02 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id RAA05462; Sun, 29 Jan 1995 17:27:56 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199501300127.RAA05462@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: WWW Sites... To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP), lds-net@mainstream.com (LDS-Net), joseph@bolis.sf-bay.org (LDS-Joseph) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 1995 17:27:55 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For the first time, it appears I am now able to run a graphical web-browser without a ton of bugs causing it to hang my machine constantly. Because of these problems, I have operated almost exclusively on a command-line interface, and (mostly) graphical 'net items like WWW sites held little or no interest for me. However, now that I have one running smoothly, I'd like some input. :) Please mail me (or post, if appropriate) you personal favorites as far as Web sites go so that I too may have some fun! ;) Thank you all for your help. ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | --------------------------------