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Wed Feb 01 21:46:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00618 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:48:54 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17292; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:33:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:33:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17281; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:33:50 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA02692 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:33:44 -0500 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA37874; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:34:28 -0500 Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:34:28 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Price changes on 755's Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >From the IBM gopher: Price Changes: Selected IBM ThinkPad 755C, 360CE, and 360C Systems Announced on January 31, 1995 MARKETING Announcement 395-009 Today, IBM announces decreased purchase prices on selected IBM ThinkPad(R) 755C, 360CE, and 360C systems. New, lower purchase prices are effective January 31, 1995. The old and new prices follow: Machine Model Part Purchase Price Description Type Number Number Old New 50/25Mhz 755C (170MB) 9545 F0C 9545F0C $4,549 $3,449 50/25Mhz 755C (340MB) 9545 F0E 9545F0E 5,049 3,849 50/25Mhz 755C (540MB) 9545 F0G 9545F0G 5,449 4,199 75/25Mhz 755C (170MB) 9545 L0C 9545L0C 4,949 4,449 75/25Mhz 755C (340MB) 9545 L0E 9545L0E 5,449 4,849 75/25Mhz 755C (540MB) 9545 L0G 9545L0G 5,849 5,199 ThinkPad 360CE (170MB) 2620 90D 262090D 3,099 2,799 ThinkPad 360CE (340MB) 2620 90F 262090F 3,499 3,099 ThinkPad 360CE (540MB) 2620 90G 262090G 3,849 3,449 ThinkPad 360C (170MB) 2620 30D 262030D 2,575 2,299 ThinkPad 360C (340MB) 2620 30F 262030F 2,943 2,599 (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation DESCRIPTION "The summary above is the entire text of this announcement." From ???@??? Wed Feb 01 21:46:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04259 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 31 Jan 1995 19:00:22 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17271; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:33:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:33:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17255; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:33:14 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA02652 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:33:00 -0500 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA29371; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:33:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:33:46 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: IBM PCMCIA SCSI Adapter Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >From the IBM gopher: Options by IBM: IBM SCSI Credit Card Adapter Announced on January 31, 1995 HARDWARE Announcement 195-019 The IBM small computer system interface (SCSI) Credit Card Adapter is a Personal Computer Memory Card International Association (PCMCIA) Type II adapter used for attaching SCSI devices, such as CD-ROM, optical, tape, and hard drives. The SCSI Credit Card Adapter offers the SCSI attachment and performance capabilities of standard-sized adapters and is compliant with PCMCIA Standards Release 2.01. Device drivers and enablers are provided in support of OS/2(R), DOS, SCSI software interfaces, and a wide range of popular notebooks and SCSI devices that have Card and Socket Services 2.0 or 2.1 installed. The SCSI Credit Card Adapter provides a high-performance SCSI-2 controller that supports SCSI synchronous, asynchronous, and fast synchronous (up to 10MBps) data transfers. The adapter supports up to seven daisy-chained devices. Single Unit Price: $225 (92G8171) Availability Date: January 31, 1995 (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation IN BRIEF . . . +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | | | o Provides high-performance SCSI-2 controller | | o Enables machine users with PCMCIA Type II or III slots to | | attach to SCSI devices | | o Provides capabilities of standard-size adapters at an | | attractive price | | o Furnishes 3-foot cable with SCSI-1 (Centronics type) | | connector | | o Supports ASPI, CAM, and INT4B SCSI interfaces | | o Supports SCSI asynchronous, synchronous, and fast synchronous | | data transfers | | o Allows up to seven daisy-chained SCSI devices | | | | Systems supported: | | | | o PS/2 E | | o ThinkPad(R) 350C, 360C, 500C, 720C, 750C, 755C | | o ThinkPad Port Replicator | | o IBM desktop systems with X86-based microprocessors and with | | an open PCMCIA 2.1 Type II or III slot possibly supported | | | | For technical support: | | | | o Call the HelpCenter(R) (800-426-7299) | | or | | o Request technical information via IBM Faxback (800-426-3395). | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ IBM SCSI CREDIT CARD ADAPTER (92G8171) The IBM SCSI Credit Card Adapter is a Personal Computer Memory Card International Association (PCMCIA) Type II adapter used for attaching SCSI devices, such as CD-ROM, optical, tape, and hard drives. The SCSI Credit Card Adapter offers the SCSI attachment and performance capabilities of standard-sized adapters and is compliant with PCMCIA Standards Release 2.1. Device drivers and enablers are provided in support of OS/2, DOS, SCSI software interfaces, and a wide range of popular notebooks and SCSI devices. The SCSI Credit Card Adapter provides a high-performance SCSI-2 controller that supports SCSI synchronous, asynchronous, and fast synchronous (up to 10MBps) data transfers. The adapter supports up to seven daisy-chained devices. The SCSI Credit Card Adapter provides support for ASPI, INT4B, and CAM SCSI interfaces. This allows the use of popular SCSI drivers and applications. The SCSI Credit Card Adapter kit provides quick and easy installation programs that allow you to quickly begin using SCSI devices. The 3-foot cable allows easy direct attachment to SCSI devices. The adapter connector is rugged and tolerates abuse. It is easy to insert and provides a locking mechanism to ensure secure connection to the adapter. The SCSI Credit Card Adapter uses the rugged laser welded metal stainless steel case. Product Positioning: The SCSI Credit Card Adapter should be considered as a connectivity option for portable computers (mobile machines) when: o The portable computer, port replicator, or docking station supports PCMCIA Release 2.1 Standards and has Type II or III slots o Employees travel, work off-site or at different on-site locations, and have a need for information on CD-ROM o The portable computer has access to an audio card or has a built in audio system for use with multimedia applications and demonstrations o SCSI tape drive is available for system backup of a portable computer that the user wishes to utilize o Information already exists on other SCSI devices that needs to be accessed, such as rewritable optical disk drives or external hard disk drives Technical Information Performance Specifications Agency Approvals o FCC Class B o CISPR-B o VCCI Class 2 Original Country of Origin: Japan Note: This may vary through the life of the product. Physical Specifications o Height: 5.0 mm (0.197 in.) o Width: 54.0 mm (2.126 in.) o Depth: 85.6 mm (3.370 in.) Operating Environment o Temperature: 0(degs) to 35(degs) C (32(degs) to 95(degs) F) o Relative humidity: Less than 95% Hardware Requirements -- IBM Systems: The IBM SCSI Credit Card Adapter (#3624, 92G8171) is supported on all models of the following systems: Machine Description Type PS/2 E 9533 ThinkPad 350C 2618 360C 2620 500C 2603 720C 9552 750C 9545 755C 9545 ThinkPad Port Replicator Note: IBM desktop systems with X86-based microprocessors and with an open PCMCIA 2.1 Type II or III slot may be supported (PS/1(R), PS/2(R), ValuePoint(TM), PC 300/700 Series, Aptiva). Part Devices Supported Number Hard Disk Drives 170MB 70G8480(1) 340MB 70G8481(1) 540MB 70G8491(1) 1GB 70G8492(1) 2GB 70G8493(1) 270MB 94G2439(1) 364MB 94G2440(1) 540MB 94G2441(1) 728MB 94G2442(1) 104MB 6451241(1) 212MB 6451242(1) 320MB 6451234(1) 400MB 6451235(1) 160MB 6451046(1) CD-ROMs Enhanced External CD ROM II 3510-005(1) 3510-705(1) Enhanced Internal CD ROM 6451104(1) Read/Write Optical Drives 127MB Internal Rewritable Optical Disk Drive 6451295(1) 127MB internal Rewritable Optical Disk Drive 6450162(1) 127MB External Rewritable Optical Disk Drive 3432-705(1) 650MB External Rewritable Optical Disk Drive 3431-001(1) Tape 1.2GB 1/4Tape (SSD) 3450-001 5GB 8 mm (SSD) 3445-001 2GB 4 mm DAT Drive 55F9464(1) 2.3GB 8 mm External 3532-023 External SCSI Single-Bay SCSI Enclosure (installed) 3510-0V0 3510-7V0 Seven-Bay SCSI Enclosure (installed) 3511-0V0 (1) Internal SCSI devices require an external SCSI enclosure. Hardware Requirements -- Non-IBM Systems: This adapter is supported in systems/devices that comply with PCMCIA Release 2.0 with a Type II card format. Enablers are available for Intel Compatible PCMCIA controllers. PCMCIA Card Services drivers support IBM, Phoenix, Systemsoft Card Services on Intel controller, and Databook Card Services on Databook controller. There is no support for a socket services only environment. Software Requirements: The following operating systems and extensions support the IBM SCSI Credit Card Adapter. o OS/2 2.1, or later o DOS 5.0, or later o Windows+ 3.1, or later o SCSI Interfaces: ASPI, INT4B, CAM o Card and Socket Services is not required but is suggested for optimal use Compatibility: The SCSI Credit Card Adapter is compatible with SCSI-1 and SCSI-2 devices. It supports computers that have compatible Card and Socket Services 2.0 or 2.1 and PCMCIA controller support. PCMCIA Release 2.01 is compliant with a Type II card format. Enablers are available for Intel Compatible PCMCIA controllers. PCMCIA Card Services drivers support IBM, Phoenix, Systemsoft Card Services on Intel controller, and Databook Card Services on Databook controller. There is no support for a socket services only environment. Limitations: Termination power must be provided by the SCSI device. Planning Information Packaging: One box Shipment Group SCSI Credit Card Adapter o Diskette 1 (Installation/ Diagnostics Diskette) o Diskette 2 (PCMCIA Power SCSI) o 3-foot cable o Warranty Statement o Program License Agreement o Installation and Testing Instructions o Registration Card o Safety Book Note: An Options by IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual Supplement (S19H-1277, 19H1277) is available in support of this product. This supplement will be available on February 28, 1995. Security, Auditability and Control User management is responsible for evaluation, selection and implementation of security features, administrative procedures and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. Terms and Conditions Field Installable Feature: Yes Customer Setup: Yes Warranty Period: Five years Service Type: Customer Carry-In Exchange (CCE) All other terms and conditions are the same as those applicable to the IBM machine type in which the feature is installed. Help and Service Information During the warranty period, technical support is available (800-426-7299) 24 hours a day, seven days a week, for answering any questions about your new IBM option. If you need warranty service, return or exchange is available. In addition, if your IBM option is installed in an IBM computer, you might be entitled to service at your location. Your technical support representative can help you determine the best alternative. Charges Single Part Unit Description Number Price* SCSI Credit Card Adapter 92G8171 $225 * The single unit price reflects the purchase price for a single unit acquired from IBM, and is subject to change without notice. This price is for information purposes only, and shall not limit in any way the remarketers' ability to set their own prices for IBM products. (TM) Trademark of International Business Machines Corporation + Trademark of Microsoft Corporation From ???@??? Wed Feb 01 21:46:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28873 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 31 Jan 1995 21:51:53 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28355; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 21:51:57 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 21:51:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28338; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 21:51:51 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA04478; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 20:51:48 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 21:52:19 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <78740.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: IBM PCMCIA SCSI Adapter In message Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:33:46 -0500 (EST), Joshua Hosseinoff writes: > The IBM small computer system interface (SCSI) Credit Card Adapter is > a Personal Computer Memory Card International Association (PCMCIA) .... > Device drivers and enablers are provided in support of OS/2(R), DOS, Hooray. I think. > | Systems supported: | > | | > | o ThinkPad(R) 350C, 360C, 500C, 720C, 750C, 755C | Does this card not like mono screens or something? _____________________________________________________________________ |\ ____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "God knows what she could've gotten my mother to say." | | | jokim@mit.edu - Bill Clinton to Newt Gingrich, on Connie Chung | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu jokim@tuna.mit.edu does not work (yet) | \|_____________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Wed Feb 01 21:46:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16238 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Feb 1995 01:09:21 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11017; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 01:14:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 01:14:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11007; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 01:14:37 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (root@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id WAA21379 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 22:14:17 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id VAA22515 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 21:43:15 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199502010543.VAA22515@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: IBM PCMCIA SCSI Adapter To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 21:43:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <78740.jokim@mit.edu> from "John H. Kim" at Jan 31, 95 09:52:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This price on the IBM SCSI card--is this good? I haven't been checking out PCMCIA SCSI card prices lately, so I don't really know, but I'm starting to see a possible use for such an item. Would appreciate if anyone would comment on good SCSI adapters (PCMCIA or Parallel) and prices. ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Wed Feb 01 21:46:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23822 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Feb 1995 06:10:34 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA15107; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 06:13:26 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 06:13:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA15097; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 06:13:23 -0500 Received: from @get.hooked.net (tuna.hooked.net [199.2.134.11]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA16659 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 03:13:19 -0800 Message-Id: <199502011113.DAA16659@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@get.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 01 Feb 1995 03:16:39 -0800 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: IBM PCMCIA SCSI Adapter I don't suppose any windows 95 beta testers have made it to our little hideaway yet? I'm wondering if anyone's tried one of these (or similar) pcmcia scsi cards on it? I'm going to have to get one eventually.. -- _________________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From ???@??? Wed Feb 01 21:46:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27999 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Feb 1995 07:16:23 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18670; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 07:27:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 07:27:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18660; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 07:27:33 -0500 Received: from novlpr.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP) id <18246-0@alf.uib.no>; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 12:37:06 +0100 Received: From EDBSENT1/WORKQUEUE1 by novlpr.uib.no via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.950201123637.384; 01 Feb 95 12:37:07 -100 Message-Id: From: Thor +ivind Jensen To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 12:42:39 MET Subject: QEMM on TP750 Reply-To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) I finally had the courage to try installing QEMM 7.5 on my TP750C, with the help from this forum, Total sucess the first time !! 40K more for programs under DOS and under Windows, compared to the old RAMboost that followed IBM DOS 6.1. That is 630K under DOS and arounbd 620K inside Windows. Stealth:M worked without a problem. The only special considerations was XBDA:L and X'ing out the same areas that was specified under the old EMM-line. Everything seems to be working: suspend, hibernation etc etc From ???@??? Wed Feb 01 21:46:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15379 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Feb 1995 10:14:32 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28389; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 09:35:11 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 09:35:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom2.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28379; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 09:35:08 -0500 Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id GAA05178; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 06:33:54 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 06:33:54 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Buffington Subject: Re: IBM PCMCIA SCSI Adapter To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP In-Reply-To: <199502010543.VAA22515@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I priced the Adaptec card at $259. So this one looks competititive. I'm buying one! rogjd@netcom.com Glendale, CA AB6WR On Tue, 31 Jan 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > > This price on the IBM SCSI card--is this good? > > I haven't been checking out PCMCIA SCSI card prices lately, > so I don't really know, but I'm starting to see a possible use for > such an item. Would appreciate if anyone would comment on good > SCSI adapters (PCMCIA or Parallel) and prices. > > ----- ________________________________ > Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | > USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | > (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | > right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | > -------------------------------- > From ???@??? Wed Feb 01 21:46:39 1995 Received: from faroe.vp.uiuc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26533 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Feb 1995 12:42:15 -0600 Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by faroe.vp.uiuc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15196; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 12:42:05 -0600 Received: from Virginia.EDU by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id ad01145; 1 Feb 95 13:17 EST Received: from gar.uhc.com by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa01137; 1 Feb 95 13:16 EST Received: from lochness.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA27798; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 11:49:52 -0600 Received: by lochness.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA81825; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 11:49:53 -0600 From: Roleigh Martin Message-Id: <9502011749.AA81825@lochness.uhc.com> Subject: Re: Help setting up/advising int'l road warriors (fwd) To: thinkpad 500 list group , IBM 750 newsgroup Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 11:49:53 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 8597 Forwarded message: >From glau@ccmail.com Tue Jan 31 20:17:37 1995 Date: Tue, 31 Jan 95 18:12:19 pst From: glau@ccmail.com Encoding: 180 Text Message-Id: <9500317916.AA791605102@smtpgate.ccmail.com> To: "cc:Mail Interest Group" , Roleigh Martin Subject: Re: Help setting up/advising int'l road warriors (Posting to both the listserv and Roliegh's E-Mail address) There's at least one document in the TAPCIS libraries on CompuServe that may contain information you're looking for: [100111,2713] Lib: 6 PHONE.PLG/Text Bytes: 7409, Count: 253, 27-Sep-92 Title : Describes telephone plugs used around the world Keywords: MODEM RJ11 TEL.PLUG JACK EUROPE TRAVEL HOTELS A text file which details the telephone plug used in most of the countries of the world with additonal some hints for successful international communications. Upload/Author Gordon Brown 100111,2713 And the following three files in the TOSHIBA libraries: [76701,145] Lib: 3 TRAVEL.KIT/Text Bytes: 6454, Count: 1370, 22-May-88 Title : Sysop Joan Phriedman's phamed phone-busting kit Keywords: PHONE PLUGS MODULAR HOTELS MOTELS TRAVEL TAP ALLIGATOR CLIPS CONNECTORS A description of the various phone cords and connectors I carry in my "travel kit", to be assured of being able to connect my modem regardless of the hotel phone setup. With explanation of how all this stuff is used. The necessary equipment can be acquired at Radio Shack at low cost. An ASCII text file; capture to disk via the R>ead command, or download with protocol. Joan Friedman [72662,3314] Lib: 4 MOSCOW.THD/Text Bytes: 12143, Count: 31, 03-Apr-94 Title : Portable Computing in Moscow Keywords: MOSCOW RUSSIA PORTABLE COMPUTING Message thread initited by Yuri Meyrowitz, inquiring about portable computing in Moscow. Practical advice offered by Duncan Morrison and others. Timely and helpful information for anyone traveling to Russia with a portable computer. [76702,310] Lib: 4 LAPTOP.ZIP/Bin Bytes: 8933, Count: 250, 14-Oct-94 Title : Laptop survival kit for people on the road Keywords: TRAVEL LAPTOPS MODEMS TOOLS HOTEL PHONES XRAYS CURRENT Information on use of hotel phones with laptops computers and modems, airport security, X-ray and magnetic hazards, foreign electrical power, tools and devices to carry, using computers in-flight. Incorporates most or all of the information in a number of previous files on CIS, and attempts to answer some of the most common questions by people traveling with computers. Upload by author, John Deakin. Minor updates in 1994. I know this topic periodically pops up in TAPCIS, TOSHBIA, MEGAHERTZ, TRAVEL and in both the WinCIM and DOSCIM support forums as message topics and I believe the CompuServe Magazine had a feature article on this topic about a year ago. The other forums you mentioned may have similiar files in their Libraries. The TRAVEL and the UK TRAVEL forums may have the audience you're seeking. -- Gary ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Help setting up/advising int'l road warriors Author: "cc:Mail Interest Group" at internet-mail Date: 1/31/95 11:18 AM ---------------------- Information from the mail header ----------------------- Sender: "cc:Mail Interest Group" Poster: Roleigh Martin Subject: Help setting up/advising int'l road warriors ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Help! Need advice for how corporate headquarters can stay in touch with their exec's wherever they go around the world: Types of help sought: 1. Some type of knowledge-database/massive textfile (maybe with graphics/pictures) that deals with road warrior questions (see below). If you know of any downloadable files on CIS or the Internet (via FTP or via Mosaic), please provide file acquisition information! 2. Else, some type of handbook that does the same as #1. 3. List of minimal items to buy to competently equip an inter- national road warrior (ALSO recommended places to order from who have the gear on the shelve to sell/ship immediately). 4. Failing obtaining #1/#3 or #2/#3, a name of a consultant or consulting company that can help with the above tasks. Even if you do post info on items 1-3, if you know of a good con- sultant, please post your recommendation. We do have a little budget for paying a consultant. Please reply by email to my personal mail box, I've posted this help request to so many relevant CIS and Internet areas. Types of questions our international road warriors have: A. What international dialing services let me dial using a modem without having to go through a voice-operator (ie, MCI in Germany lets us dial direct to the states; ATT in Germany doesn't, a voice operator always comes online)? A country by country, service by service matrix or list would be great! B. What modem init strings are needed for different countries/dialing services? For instance, we found out this about Germany: "I have been playing around with modems endlessly, and have two tidbits that may be useful to you. I found that I need to set ATB0&G1 to work with European phone systems. B0 sets the phone communication standard (CCITT), and G1 sets the use of guard tones to 550 Hz (I don't know what this is)." C. When one has a choice of multiple long distance network carriers to connect to Compuserve in a country, such as South Africa, which carrier has the better reputation for connectivity ease; line reliability? D. Which is better; pocket modem or PCMCIA modem cards for broadest international use? What brand/model # provides the broadest modem support throughout the world? What paging/telecommunication (radio) service is best recommended? Contact information, please. E. What is a good fallback communication solution--ie, any good message or verbal paging solution that works worldwide? F. What is the best gateway/routing solution for a corporation who uses CC:MAIL and is on the Internet and has a corporate Compu- Serve account as well? How is it easiest for one to get his or her mail regardless of where he or she is? G. Are there any international technical help consulting centers for dealing with connectivity problems--one knows that American Express is always around for financial problems; how about who is available (for a fee, of course) for connectivity problems? H. I have an old PC Magazine laptop road warrior handout that is about 6 pages long that shows a variety of things, including what electrical adaptors to use in which countries. Who is keeping this type of information updated and who is the best mail-order source in the USA to obtain such adaptors/cords quickly and who know what is needed for IBM Thinkpads, NEC Versas, or Toshiba notebooks. I. We do have HP 200 palmtops too and am using it's CC:MAIL. Any international users with HP 100/200 palmtop experience would be appreciated too. J. We're open to switching notebook brands for future purchases of which their will be plenty of such purchases; does anyone have a better recommendation for international traveling/support? K. Anything that I may have left out? I am posting this to the following places -- are there other good places to post this to on Compuserve and the Internet: Compaq, Toshiba, Thinkpad, Palmtop A, Palmtop B, HPHAND, WIRELESS, LOTUSCOMM, TAPCIS, DVORAK on Compuserve comp.sys.palmtops, comp.sys.laptops, comp.dcom.modems on the Internet Thanks! -- Roleigh Martin, Rt. MN06-6130 Opinions are mine not UHC | UHC, Advanced Technology AT&T/vmail: (612) 945-6529| 9705 Data Park Drive FAX: (612) 945-6502| Minnetonka, MN 55343 Email: rol@lochness.uhc.com| -- Roleigh Martin, Rt. MN06-6130 Opinions are mine not UHC | UHC, Advanced Technology AT&T/vmail: (612) 945-6529| 9705 Data Park Drive FAX: (612) 945-6502| Minnetonka, MN 55343 Email: rol@lochness.uhc.com| ** B'days are good for health ** Statistics show that people with most b'days live the longest When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl From ???@??? Wed Feb 01 21:46:45 1995 Received: from faroe.vp.uiuc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25663 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Feb 1995 13:45:28 -0600 Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by faroe.vp.uiuc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15312; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 13:44:50 -0600 Received: from Virginia.EDU by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa22385; 1 Feb 95 14:20 EST Received: from arthur.rtptok.epa.gov by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa22375; 1 Feb 95 14:19 EST Received: from RTPMAINHUB-Message_Server by ARTHUR.RTPTOK.EPA.GOV with WordPerfect_Office; Wed, 01 Feb 1995 14:01:35 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Wed, 01 Feb 1995 14:17:05 -0500 From: JABLONOWSKI.EUGENE@epamail.epa.gov To: ibm-tp500@virginia.edu Subject: ThinkPad Proven info ** High Priority **** Reply Requested by 2/7/2106 (Sunday) ** FYI, Here's info (press release) on IBM's "ThinkPad Proven" program and how to receive more info. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THINKPAD PROVEN ROSTER TRIPLES IN LESS THAN TWO YEARS AS SELECT VENDORS KEEP PACE WITH IBM ANNOUNCEMENTS October 17, 1994 SOMERS, N.Y., October 17... In just 16 months, IBM's ThinkPad Proven* program has more than tripled the number of third-party vendors whose notebook accessories carry the ThinkPad Proven emblem of compatibility. Launched to provide ThinkPad* owners with reliable and compatible options and add-ons, ThinkPad Proven now counts 16 companies among its roster. Companies whose products have kept pace with ThinkPad technology include Adaptec, Airsoft, Apex Data, Apricorn Inc., Audio File, Compu-Lock, Computer Product Plus, Lind Electronics, Megahertz, MiniStor Peripherals, Page Mart, Radio Mail Corp., SofNet, Sony Electronics, Triton Technologies, and Vasco Data Security. Member companies operate in 15 countries and ensure that their products are compatible with ThinkPad computers. These notebook solutions run the gamut from wireless communications devices and specialized software to optical discs and PC cards. For a list of ThinkPad Proven accessories, call the fax information service at the IBM Personal Computer Company (800-426-3395) and request document number 11900. * Trademark or registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation. Please Note: Questions about the content or currency of this press release should be directed to your local IBM representative. From ???@??? Wed Feb 01 21:47:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29701 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Feb 1995 16:05:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01844; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 15:45:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 15:45:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01827; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 15:45:44 -0500 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07464; Wed, 1 Feb 95 12:46:35 PST Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940715.SGI.52/911001.SGI) for @cs.nps.navy.mil:tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id AA00691; Wed, 1 Feb 95 12:46:37 -0800 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9502011246.ZM689@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 12:46:37 -0800 In-Reply-To: Thor +ivind Jensen "QEMM on TP750" (Feb 1, 12:42pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: QEMM on TP750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 > I finally had the courage to try installing QEMM 7.5 on my TP750C, ... > Everything seems to be working: suspend, hibernation etc etc I'm surprised the hibernation works correctly. When I run it, the screen "melts" (ie, someone is stomping on the VGA buffer). The hibernation itself still works properly. What is the date of your qemm executable? Have there been newer patches since qpat2.exe? Robert From ???@??? Wed Feb 01 21:47:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28954 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Feb 1995 18:11:23 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13109; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 18:00:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 17:59:59 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13093; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 17:59:58 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rZnmX-0004uPC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:44 CST Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rZnmW-0002nbC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:44 CST Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rZnmS-0002wvC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:44 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: QEMM on TP750 To: george@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 16:44:08 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9502011246.ZM689@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> from "Robert George" at Feb 1, 95 12:46:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I'm surprised the hibernation works correctly. When I run it, the screen > "melts" (ie, someone is stomping on the VGA buffer). The hibernation itself > still works properly. What is the date of your qemm executable? Have there > been newer patches since qpat2.exe? I am told that there is an exclude which was omitted from the configuration which I published. In my case I don't use hibernation, so I never spent the time working the issue. (In fact I flushed QEMM...) -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From ???@??? Wed Feb 01 21:47:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28699 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Feb 1995 21:18:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24956; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 21:21:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 21:21:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gwis2.circ.gwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24946; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 21:21:04 -0500 Received: (from halinatr@localhost) by gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA00706; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 21:20:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 21:20:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Darren P. McCabe" Subject: Hardware: Which way to go... To: IBM Thinkpad Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm looking for advice on upgrading my TP750. I need more storage space...and would like a CD-ROM drive so I can find software again! At any rate, I was going to just wait and buy a desktop pentium when the prices dropped again, but now I'm not so sure. The new IBM PCMCIA SCSI adapter had made me think about picking up an external 500mb drive and an external 4x CD-ROM...all for about the same price of getting a 810MB drive to my thinkpad. Anyone have thoughts on my best choice of action here? I am of course looking for maximum storage and power for my limited $. Thanks! Hal From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:43:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12677 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 2 Feb 1995 19:34:02 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13950; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 19:17:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 19:17:41 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13940; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 19:17:38 -0500 Received: from [192.70.249.42] (mac42.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA10731; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:17:25 EST Message-Id: <9502030017.AA10731@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 20:22:49 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: WARP, 3com ethercard irq problem SOLVED Background: About two weeks ago I sent out a plea for info on the solution to the following problem. Running Warp on a tp750 with tcpip for os2 2.0, my 3com 3c589 PCMCIA card would set to IRQ7 automaticly, and there was no option for changing it. IRQ7 also happens to be the parallel port IRQ. This was generally not a problem, but at least one program (backmaster for os2) checks for conflicts when attempting to use the parallel port. It sees that IRQ7 is in use, informs you of this, and exits. This was a big problem, as it made my iomega parallel II tape backup just short of useless. Solution: This is a case of compound problems. Two people from this group suggested that I add the line: Interrupt = 5 to the elpc3os2 stanza of protocol.ini. This was the standard solution, but it turns out that the then current 3com drivers do not support this line. tcpip stops working. They now have an updated driver, but they do not want to put it on their ftp site untill it has been tested a while. They gave me a private BBS number, but it is impossible to connect to. If anybody else needs this driver and wants to try their hand, contact me. Anyway, I finally got the driver via email. It works, with one qualification. The thinkpad system info program listed irqs 3,5,11,..as free. My megaherz modem always takes 3, leaving 5, 11, .. pointing the driver at IRQ5 in protocol.ini leads to a hang on bootup. /*start tangent*/ I'm so glad I had made utility disks, so that I could boot off disk and restore the old protocol.ini. Anybody who uses os2 on hpfs should make a utility boot disk, or you'll be sorry some day:). tp750x owners have an advantage here, as it takes two 1.44's, but only one 2.88 diskette. /*end tangent*/ Pointing to IRQ11 in protocol.ini works perfectly. I hope that this saves somebody else the trouble I went through. ------------------------------------------------------------ Victor Kress Carnegie Institution of Washington, Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 ------------------------------------------------------------ From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24595 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 2 Feb 1995 20:18:20 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16000; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 19:54:56 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 19:54:53 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom18.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15986; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 19:54:51 -0500 Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id QAA29514; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:53:28 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:53:27 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Buffington Subject: Re: IBM PCMCIA SCSI Adapter To: Bruce Reed Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9502021722.AA03554@opus.objy.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was told that there is an OS/2 beta driver which is very good which you can download off of the IBM OS/2 support forum on Compuserve. rogjd@netcom.com Glendale, CA AB6WR On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Bruce Reed wrote: > > >SCSI software interfaces, and a wide range of popular notebooks and > > >SCSI devices that have Card and Socket Services 2.0 or 2.1 installed. > > > > Hey, hey! SCSI cards for OS/2. What other manufacturer has OS/2 > > drivers out now? > > The New Media bus toaster has always worked with OS/2. It's about the > only one I know of that worked with the thinkpad drivers and EZplay > under OS 2.1. Unfortunately I've heard folks say the data transfer > rate of this card is poor compared to others (like the Qlogic and > Adaptec.) I wonder how the IBM compares. > > Adaptec was working on Warp drivers last time I checked. They supposedly > started a beta program about three months ago though support claimed > they knew nothing about any OS/2 driver development and as little as > two weeks ago there was nothing on their BBS. Still waiting . . . > > --Bruce > From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29100 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 04:27:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20651; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 04:09:25 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 04:09:23 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20641; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 04:09:17 -0500 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 10:08:54 +0100 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Fri, 3 Feb 95 10:08:53 +0100 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 95 10:08:53 +0100 Message-Id: <9502030908.AA02171@octave.chorus.fr> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Memory extension part numbers This mail is particularly directed to the owner of memory extensions fr Thinkpad model 360. I wonder what is the correct part/number of the 8Mo IC DRAM. I did take a look at the IBM offical announcement. Thinkpad 8MB Basic IC DRAM Card 84G5692 PS/2 8MB IC DRAM CARD 07G1421 What's the difference between these two ? Resellers seem to only know the second one. Moreover, I learnt that there was two different part number for each product. The other one for the same product is TONPM08 for the 8MB (Commercial number). Cloners seem to always use the 07G1421 reference. What is yours ? Thanks. -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00090 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 04:30:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22084; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 04:31:56 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 04:31:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22072; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 04:31:51 -0500 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 10:31:10 +0100 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Fri, 3 Feb 95 10:31:09 +0100 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 95 10:31:09 +0100 Message-Id: <9502030931.AA02345@octave.chorus.fr> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Help with XFree-3.1 and Windows I wonder if someone managed to get XFree-3.1 server running on a Thinkpad model 360 (CSE). It's now been two days that I battle with the XF86Config file with no success. So I switched back to XFree-2.1, the script is easier to configure. If I use the standard XF86_SVGA, I have problem with the screen being partially duplicated. I remembered of someone in Switzerland (sti) which patched the X11R5 server to run on Thinkpads. So I retrieved its server along with its xconfig file. This time the screen is not duplicated, but if I use a virtual desktop of 1024x1024 (360CSE has got 1Mb of video RAM), I have redraw problems. Using twm and moving windows leads to serious redraw problems. Some people have sent their Xconfig file for X11R5 and X11R6 on various newsgroup or even in this mailing list. So I wonder If they did encounter such problems. I have also had problems under DOS/windows. I have connected a multisync monitor (capable of 1024*768 non-interlaced) to the external VGA port. Then I reconfigure windows (windows installation/configure system) using the WD... in 1024*768 small fonts. Then I restarted Windows. The result was that I still was in 640*480 mode, though I have configured the system through the VESA.exe command to support extra frequence range for external monitor. Does anybody have the solution to these video problems ??? Thanks. -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10092 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 05:35:11 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA01236; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 05:45:20 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 05:45:18 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from zurich.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA01216; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 05:45:16 -0500 Received: from ZURICH by zurich.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 9845; Fri, 03 Feb 95 05:45:09 EST Received: by ZURICH (XAGENTA 3.0) id 3014; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 11:45:08 +0100 Received: by mieserenstock.zurich.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA22422; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 11:44:55 +0100 Message-Id: <9502031044.AA22422@mieserenstock.zurich.ibm.com> To: Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Help with XFree-3.1 and Windows In-Reply-To: (Your message of Fri, 03 Feb 95 10:31:09 N.) <9502030931.AA02345@octave.chorus.fr> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 95 11:44:54 +0100 From: "Michael Steiner" > I wonder if someone managed to get XFree-3.1 server running on > a Thinkpad model 360 (CSE). It's now been two days that I battle > with the XF86Config file with no success. So I switched back to > XFree-2.1, the script is easier to configure. If I use the standard > XF86_SVGA, I have problem with the screen being partially duplicated. > > I remembered of someone in Switzerland (sti) which patched the X11R5 > server to run on Thinkpads. here i am ... >So I retrieved its server along with its > xconfig file. This time the screen is not duplicated, but if I use a > virtual desktop of 1024x1024 (360CSE has got 1Mb of video RAM), I have > redraw problems. Using twm and moving windows leads to serious redraw > problems. on dual scan monitor the memory is split in to two. the upper 512K mirror the lower 512K to allow dual scan. -> no 1MB any more ;-( (you only get it for external displays). > The result was that I still was in 640*480 mode, though I have > configured the system through the VESA.exe command to support extra > frequence range for external monitor. at least for the 750Cs (and i assume for the 360 as well) you have to disable the LCD with the thinkpad-display utility to use higher resolution for external display. -michael- PS: i'm working on a utility for XFree so you don't have to patch it anymore. handling dual scan works fine now but enabling/disabling internal display to allow higher resolution on the external display is yet untested. if you are interested let me know and i can update you on this project. From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21483 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 11:01:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19104; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 10:13:20 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 10:13:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom19.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19078; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 10:13:01 -0500 Received: by netcom19.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id HAA26681; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 07:11:31 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 07:11:31 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Buffington Subject: Re: Sigma Data #, etc. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9502031044.AA22422@mieserenstock.zurich.ibm.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm going to do it: buy either a 540 or 340 drive for my TP. Could someone on the list please e-mail me Sigma Data's fone # and any pertinent information regarding discounts? Thanks. rogjd@netcom.com Glendale, CA AB6WR From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22734 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 11:04:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20365; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 10:27:17 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 10:27:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from student.uq.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20354; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 10:27:14 -0500 Received: from student.uq.edu.au (cs322612@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by student.uq.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA24944 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 01:27:06 +1000 Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 01:27:00 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson Subject: Parallel CD-Rom drives To: tp750 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone have any experience with Parallel CD-Roms. I've found myself in the need for C++ and my little 170 drive doesn't quite have the 125Meg spare it needs. I can get a very good price on a M3030 2x "Beethoven SuperSpin" parallel passthrough drive. I've never heard of them before, but the price is a dealer price and about $200 less than a Backpack. If anyone has had one working on a Thinkpad, I'd appreciate a mail. - Rohan. From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25753 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 12:13:16 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24488; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 11:20:05 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 11:20:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24466; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 11:19:57 -0500 Received: from lochness.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA24952; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 10:19:24 -0600 Received: from sturgeon.uhc.com by lochness.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA105592; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 10:19:26 -0600 Message-Id: <9502031619.AA105592@lochness.uhc.com> X-Sender: gbu@lochness.uhc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 Feb 1995 10:20:33 -0600 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: gbu@uhc.com (Gary Udstrand) Subject: New case for a 755C I would like to purchase a new case for my 755C. I need something with more room (*lots* more room). I carry tons of papers, books, etc back and forth to work along with the laptop (not to mention travel) and would prefer to put everything in one case. Right now I am dragging a laptop case and a briefcase with me wherever I go. Any recommendations, suggestions? _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ Gary Udstrand _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ AT&T: (612) 945-6523 Advanced Technology _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ Fax: (612) 945-6502 United HealthCare _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ EMail: gbu@uhc.com _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ "The truly great things happen when a genius is alone. This is true especially among golfers." -J. R. Coulson From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11328 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 12:45:44 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28542; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 12:05:46 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 12:05:44 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28509; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 12:05:36 -0500 From: Received: from PC1-Message_Server by BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU with WordPerfect_Office; Fri, 03 Feb 1995 12:04:55 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Fri, 03 Feb 1995 12:02:38 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, gbu@uhc.com Subject: New case for a 755C -Reply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to purchase a new case for my 755C. I need something with more room (*lots* more room). I carry tons of papers, books, etc back and forth to work along with the laptop (not to mention travel) and would prefer to put everything in one case. Right now I am dragging a laptop case and a briefcase with me wherever I go. Any recommendations, suggestions? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< As an IS specialist and going from one facility to another I have found a case that meets my need of not requiring a brief case. Company: PORT phone 1-800-242-3133 I have been using it a 16 months, not a tear, rip, or fray. From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08312 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:44:55 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02481; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:02:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:02:07 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02471; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:02:05 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id NAA02075; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:05:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:05:09 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Rohan Davidson Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: Parallel CD-Rom drives In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Rohan Davidson wrote: > Does anyone have any experience with Parallel CD-Roms. I've found myself > in the need for C++ and my little 170 drive doesn't quite have the 125Meg > spare it needs. > > I can get a very good price on a M3030 2x "Beethoven SuperSpin" parallel > passthrough drive. I've never heard of them before, but the price is a > dealer price and about $200 less than a Backpack. I have a Sydos 1x I bought on the net for $100. Works fine, but is butt slow. However, for CD ROM installs it's _still_ faster than floppy swap. Dunno if I'd want to run the compiler off it though. If you can, scan the forsale groups for PARALLEL (cap B in tin) - there may be more out there. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09455 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:47:19 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04057; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:21:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:21:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04044; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:21:27 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id NAA08718; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:18:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199502031818.NAA08718@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: gbu@uhc.com (Gary Udstrand) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: New case for a 755C In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 03 Feb 1995 10:20:33 CST." <9502031619.AA105592@lochness.uhc.com> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 1995 13:18:07 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > I would like to purchase a new case for my 755C. I need something > with more room (*lots* more room). I carry tons of papers, books, etc > back and forth to work along with the laptop (not to mention travel) > and would prefer to put everything in one case. Right now I am > dragging a laptop case and a briefcase with me wherever I go. I recommend getting a Wetsuit (snug fitting neoprene slip case) for the laptop and putting them both inside whatever carrying case you want to use to carry your papers and whatnot. This way you only have one thing to carry. The Wetsuit is great when you just want to carry the laptop -- it protects it, provides a handle and a small bit of storage space, and (unlike the thinkpad case) is squishy so it won't slip out of your hands. Wetsuits are about $30 and are available from Elek-Tek: +1 800 395 1000. Keith Moore From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18788 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 14:06:22 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03514; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:17:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:17:07 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from noc4.dccs.upenn.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03502; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:17:04 -0500 Received: from DOLPHIN.UPENN.EDU by noc4.dccs.upenn.edu id AA26992; Fri, 3 Feb 95 13:16:56 -0500 Received: by dolphin.upenn.edu id NAA28618; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:16:36 -0500 From: mtran@dolphin.upenn.edu (Mark Tran) Posted-Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:16:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199502031816.NAA28618@dolphin.upenn.edu> Subject: carrying cases To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:16:36 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn2.9] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Does anyone have that IBM thinkpad briefcase for $199? If so, could you please e-mail your comments on it. I basically want it to be just big enough for my thinkpad and a few miscellaneous things (in other words, I want it to be pretty small). Thanks in advance for all help. P.S. - if there's something similar to the above case from another maker at a lower price, please give me info on that also! From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23157 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 14:14:54 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03498; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:16:47 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:16:45 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03486; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:16:41 -0500 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 4313; Fri, 03 Feb 95 13:16:38 EST Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 3221; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:16:38 EST Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Fri, 03 Feb 95 13:16:37 EST Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA27807; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:16:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:16:38 -0500 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9502031816.AA27807@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: IBM Factory Outlet I thought this might be of interest to some people on this list. 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JUST: 1. CALL 1-800-426-3395 2. PRESS OPTION #1 (END-USER) 3. PRESS OPTION #1 4. PRESS OPTION #1 AGAIN TO ENTER YOUR DOCUMENT # 5. ENTER 3001 AND THE # KEY WHEN ASKED FOR DOCUMENT NUMBER. 6. Follow voice instructions. **TO ORDER LITERATURE ON THE ABOVE SYSTEMS, USE OUR AUTOMATED FAX SYSTEM **THE FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS: 1. CALL 1-800-426-3395. 2. PRESS OPTION #1 (END-USER). 3. PRESS OPTION #1 4. PRESS OPTION #1 AGAIN TO ENTER YOUR DOCUMENT # 5. SELECT FAXBACK DOCUMENT # FROM BELOW (UP TO 5) 6. FOLLOW VOICE INSTRUCTIONS. Doc.# Part# Model / Description Pages --------------------------------------------------------------- 60046 9552-307/308 THINKPAD 720 1 11427 9545-XXX THINKPAD 750 OVERVIEW 1 11365 9545-XXX THINKPAD 750 BROCHURE 10 11377 2603-XXX THINKPAD 500 BROCHURE 5 60039 6384-XXX Valuepoint Fall 93 Models 1 60041 6381-XXX Valuepoint Si Models 1 60031 OS/2 2.1 OS/2 2.1 Compared to Win3.1 1 From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25049 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 14:18:40 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01318; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 12:45:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 12:45:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01301; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 12:45:17 -0500 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05640; Fri, 3 Feb 95 09:46:08 PST Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940715.SGI.52/911001.SGI) for @cs.nps.navy.mil:tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id AA01032; Fri, 3 Feb 95 09:46:02 -0800 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9502030946.ZM1030@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 09:46:02 -0800 In-Reply-To: Rohan Davidson "Parallel CD-Rom drives" (Feb 4, 1:27am) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel CD-Rom drives Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 > I've found myself in the need for C++ and my little 170 drive doesn't quite > have the 125Meg spare it needs. I hope you're not referring to Borland C++. I'm not sure about Visual C++, but when Borland says that you need 125Megs, they mean on your hard disk. Many of those files are the compiler, linker, loader, libraries, include files, ... Borland takes a long time to compile with *all* the files on the hard drive, let alone if you're trying to run off a CD-ROM drive. If I remember correctly, the minimum installation (BC++ 4.52) requires 35 Megs. BTW, Borland C++ has an outstanding development environment. It also is the only PC compiler which is using the Engineering Design Solutions (EDS) compiler front-end. EDS is the only front end available which properly handles C++ templates. Robert From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26245 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 14:21:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02307; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 12:59:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 12:59:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02292; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 12:59:46 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id NAA01882; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:02:25 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:02:24 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Roger Buffington Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Sigma Data #, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Feb 1995, Roger Buffington wrote: > I'm going to do it: buy either a 540 or 340 drive for my TP. Could > someone on the list please e-mail me Sigma Data's fone # and any > pertinent information regarding discounts? as always, this info is on http://shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad.html for future reference. Here it is anyways.... and speaking of which, this stuff should migrate to the official page when that and the FTP/archive site are up. Any status on that? ------ From: glade@cs.cornell.edu (Bradford Glade) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 11:56:24 -0400 Message-Id: <9410141556.AA12952@harbard.cs.cornell.edu> Received: by harbard.cs.cornell.edu (5.67/N-0.13aa) id AA12952; Fri, 14 Oct 94 11:56:24 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Disks for 75x's I gave Sigma Data a call and asked about pricing for the drives that Robert told us about. Here's Robert's info with the pricing added. ------ Capacity IBM Part Number Sigma Data Part Number Price (1-4 units) (5+ units) 340M 66G2849 QED/TP750-340 $ 895 $ 795 540M 84G2150 QED/TP750-540 1195 995 810M 84G8250 QED/TP750-810 1495 1395 -Brad. ----- Bradford B. Glade | glade@cs.cornell.edu Dept. of Computer Science | Tel. (607) 255-1144 (Office) 314 Upson Hall Cornell Univ. | FAX (607) 255-4428 (CS Dept.) Ithaca, NY 14853 | ***** and then: ***** Received: from CS.UTK.EDU ([128.169.94.1]) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) with ESMTP id MAA28140 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 1994 12:00:21 -0400 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13912; Mon, 17 Oct 1994 11:36:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Oct 1994 11:36:33 EDT Errors-to: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom19.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13902; Mon, 17 Oct 1994 11:36:28 -0400 Received: by netcom19.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id IAA27904; Mon, 17 Oct 1994 08:33:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 08:33:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Martin P. Smith" Subject: Re: Disks for 75x's To: Randal Whittle , Bradford Glade , TP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII OK Folks we have the five lot priceing discount!!! ------------------------------------------B If you call for a drive please use PETER KUSINSKI as your reference and just tell him you would like the internet discount. This will apply to ALL the Adrives in the range. The details are as follows. Phone number 1-800-446-4525 Contact : PETER KUSHINSKI. Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.COM On Fri, 14 Oct 1994, Martin P. Smith wrote: > I am willing to ask Sigma Data next week if they would be willing to > do this. I will call during the AM PST Monday and let you all know the > result. > > If we all use the same contact name then maybe this will work for us. > > > Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.COM > > > On Fri, 14 Oct 1994, Randal Whittle wrote: > > > > martin> I also called and got the same info. The availability of 540 > > > martin> is next week, for the 810 is about 2 weeks. > > > > > > martin> Is there any way we can organize a group purchase ? > > > > > > I too am interested in this. (I think that makes three of us now.) The > > > price break is better for the 540MB drives ($200 dollar savings > > > vs. $100). My preference is still for the 810MB drive, but I'd be > > > happy with any of the options. Are other folks interested in this? > > > Anyone feel like taking control and managing the order? > > > > > > -Brad. > > > > Certainly not meaning to offend anyone, but if I were to > > purchase a drive in this manner (and I'd like to--just not sure of the > > finances), I think it would be best if one of the "old-timers" of the > > list--someone we can presumably trust with the $--took the money > > and made the batch order. > > > > Or perhaps we can just convince Sigma Data that members of the > > ThinkPad list could mention the list and recieve the group order > > discount? That would be much better! > > > > ----- ________________________________ > > Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu | Some guy hit my fender the | > > USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)|other day, and I said unto him| > > (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | "Be fruitful and multiply." | > > right, they should be yours too.) | --but not in those words. | > > -------------------------------- > > > ********** Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20446 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 15:10:45 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07932; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 14:15:13 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 14:15:11 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from bsdi.nucleus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07912; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 14:15:07 -0500 Received: (twkary@localhost) by bsdi.nucleus.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.5) id MAA13355; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 12:16:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 12:16:43 -0700 (MST) From: Tim Kary To: Gary Udstrand Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: New case for a 755C In-Reply-To: <9502031619.AA105592@lochness.uhc.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Feb 1995, Gary Udstrand wrote: > I would like to purchase a new case for my 755C. I need something with more > room (*lots* more room). I carry tons of papers, books, etc back and forth > to work along with the laptop (not to mention travel) and would prefer to > put everything in one case. Right now I am dragging a laptop case and a > briefcase with me wherever I go. > > Any recommendations, suggestions? Gary: I have the same problem, so for those days that I want only one case I purchased a case made by TARGUS. I have one of their smaller cases for just carrying my TP, but the large case will carry my TP, accessories, and all the current contents of my briefcase with a little room left over. These cases seem to be available here a several software stores as well as being a catalog item at every major stationery store chain. These cases are built to last and retail (for the large model) at about $120CDN. Available in ballistic nylon(black or green) or black leather(more $$). Hope this helps! Tim --------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Kary twkary@nucleus.com |"Imagination is more 403-262-7021 cellular: 870-1386 | important than knowledge." 403-262-1392 - FAX | - Albert Einstein --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02140 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 15:34:22 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09434; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 14:35:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 14:35:17 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09416; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 14:35:14 -0500 Received: from @get.hooked.net (webe.hooked.net [199.2.134.9]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA29117 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 11:34:57 -0800 Message-Id: <199502031934.LAA29117@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@get.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 Feb 1995 11:39:15 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: carrying cases At 01:16 PM 2/3/95 -0500, Mark Tran wrote: >Does anyone have that IBM thinkpad briefcase for $199? If so, could you >please e-mail your comments on it. I basically want it to be just big >enough for my thinkpad and a few miscellaneous things (in other words, I >want it to be pretty small). Thanks in advance for all help. I have one, I really like it. It fits like this: +--+ +------------+ |@@|#######| | |@@|#######| | |@@|#######| | | |#######| | | |#######| | | |#######| | +------------+ # = pad, @ = power supply. I also carry disks, 25' phone cord, wallet, and a water bottle :) It's made of nice stuff, has a great, soft-foam handle, good shoulder-strap, 3 pockets for floppies/business cards, inside pocket for papers, outside for whatever.. The bottom has those hard rubber knobbly feet, and it's all very sturdy. That said.. :) I do think 199 is a bit steep. -- _________________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03099 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 15:36:37 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10192; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 14:46:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 14:46:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10176; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 14:46:50 -0500 Received: from [192.70.249.42] (mac42.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA12387; Fri, 3 Feb 95 14:46:39 EST Message-Id: <9502031946.AA12387@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 15:52:04 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: carrying cases >Hi, > >Does anyone have that IBM thinkpad briefcase for $199? If so, could you >please e-mail your comments on it. I basically want it to be just big >enough for my thinkpad and a few miscellaneous things (in other words, I >want it to be pretty small). Thanks in advance for all help. > >P.S. - if there's something similar to the above case from another maker >at a lower price, please give me info on that also! I have a computer aid case which I got for something like $50. It's made out of heavy balistic nylon, very sturdy, well padded and well made. With the velcroed padded inserts it's just the right size for the tp. A large side pocket is big enough for the power brick, or a thick manual. I like it because it's easy to carry alone, or it fits in a backpack for bicycling to work. ------------------------------------------------------------ Victor Kress Carnegie Institution of Washington, Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 ------------------------------------------------------------ From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12226 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 15:54:47 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11617; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 15:07:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 15:07:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from bsdi.nucleus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11587; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 15:07:43 -0500 Received: (twkary@localhost) by bsdi.nucleus.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.5) id NAA14622; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:08:13 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:08:13 -0700 (MST) From: Tim Kary To: Mark Tran Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: carrying cases In-Reply-To: <199502031816.NAA28618@dolphin.upenn.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Feb 1995, Mark Tran wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone have that IBM thinkpad briefcase for $199? If so, could you > please e-mail your comments on it. I basically want it to be just big > enough for my thinkpad and a few miscellaneous things (in other words, I > want it to be pretty small). Thanks in advance for all help. > > P.S. - if there's something similar to the above case from another maker > at a lower price, please give me info on that also! Mark: In a recent reply to the list regarding cases I indicated that I was using a case made by TARGUS. My small case fits my TP plus a few accesories. Sounds like what you are looking for! Retails here at $65 CDN and can be found at nearly every stationery store or software store. The case is strong and well made. Tim Kary --------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Kary twkary@nucleus.com |"Imagination is more 403-262-7021 cellular: 870-1386 | important than knowledge." 403-262-1392 - FAX | - Albert Einstein --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11792 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 17:01:51 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17007; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 16:09:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 16:09:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cloud9.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16997; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 16:09:48 -0500 Received: by cloud9.net (8.6.9/940717-Cloud 9 Internet) id QAA23549; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 16:06:11 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 16:06:11 -0500 (EST) From: Jon Bauer Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: carrying cases In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just recently got the new Tumi balistic kind of laptop/overnight bag. It is perfect for my needs. It has a padded middle section where you can easily fit your TP or any other laptop. Also has some large gussetted outside pockets for your power supply or other misc items. Tumi stuff is incredibly durable, and I love it. Also have the garment bag, and haven't had one problem with either piece. - JB -- jbauer@pepsi.com or jbauer@cloud9.net From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18363 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 17:20:34 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20902; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 16:45:11 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 16:45:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20887; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 16:45:07 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id QAA11016; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 16:48:15 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 16:48:14 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: jesse montrose Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: carrying cases In-Reply-To: <199502031934.LAA29117@get.hooked.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Feb 1995, jesse montrose wrote: > I also carry disks, 25' phone cord, wallet, and a water bottle :) You're telling us you keep a bottle of water in a sealed case with yout computer? You're a brave man, JM...... From ???@??? Fri Feb 03 17:44:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21618 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 17:30:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21846; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 16:55:56 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 16:55:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21802; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 16:55:45 -0500 Received: from @get.hooked.net (also.hooked.net [199.2.134.6]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA11341 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:50:52 -0800 Message-Id: <199502032150.NAA11341@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@get.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 Feb 1995 13:55:08 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: carrying cases At 04:48 PM 2/3/95 -0500, Don Whiteside wrote: >On Fri, 3 Feb 1995, jesse montrose wrote: > >> I also carry disks, 25' phone cord, wallet, and a water bottle :) > >You're telling us you keep a bottle of water in a sealed case with yout >computer? You're a brave man, JM...... Fools rush in where wise men fear to tread.. -- _________________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From ???@??? Sun Feb 05 22:42:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14352 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 4 Feb 1995 16:22:52 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20071; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 15:55:47 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 15:55:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20053; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 15:55:43 -0500 Received: from [132.236.236.46] (CU-DIALUP-0204.CIT.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.236.46]) by postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA24038 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 15:55:38 -0500 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 16:56:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "kevin ong" Sender: lo16@postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu Reply-To: lo16@cornell.edu Message-Id: <60993.lo16@cornell.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: New! In message Sat, 4 Feb 1995 12:05:41 -0500, tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU writes: > lo16@cornell.edu has been added to the tp750 mailing list. > > ---- > > Welcome to the ThinkPad 750 mailing list! > > This list is for general discussion among ThinkPad 75X owners and users, > including the various TP750, TP755, and TP360 models. These models are > internally very different from the 350, 500, and 720 series machines, and > much of the stuff discussed here won't apply to the latter group of > machines. > (If you have a ThinkPad 500, you might want to subscribe to the ibm-tp500 > list instead. To do this, send mail to Majordomo@virginia.edu with the > line "subscribe ibm-tp500 your-email-address" in the body.) > > > >>> IMPORTANT <<< > > To send something to the list, mail it to TP750@CS.UTK.EDU > > To subscribe to the list, unsubscribe from the list, or to change your > address, send mail to TP750-REQUEST@CS.UTK.EDU. (If you sent your > subscribe message to the whole list, that's okay, but please use the > -REQUEST address next time!) > > > The FAQ for this group is available for anonymous ftp from > assistant.beckman.uiuc.edu, directory /wasserman/thinkpad, > file "tp75x.FAQ" Thanks to Sean Chou > for maintaining it. > > > Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, > how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), > and what operating system(s) you are using. (send this to the LIST > address -- don't just reply to this message!) > Hi folks, i'm new on this list. I own a TP360Cs. So far i've been satisfied with it except that i regret not getting one with 340 MB HD instead of a 170 MB HD that i have now. It runs on 33 Mhz . The thing is that to upgrade the HDD, it would cost at least $500 if i got an IBM HDD. Has anyone got any suggestions? Ideally, i would like to pay around $400 and hopefullt get a discount for trading in my HDD. Alternatively, i've been looking around at portable HDD which connects to PCMCIA jack. I appreciate any suggestions. Thanks in advance. Kevin From ???@??? Sun Feb 05 22:42:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05172 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 4 Feb 1995 17:48:56 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26637; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 17:35:52 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 17:35:50 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26621; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 17:35:46 -0500 Received: from @get.hooked.net (tuna.hooked.net [199.2.134.11]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA04732 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 14:35:31 -0800 Message-Id: <199502042235.OAA04732@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@get.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 04 Feb 1995 14:40:17 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: battery switching? I'm considering a second battery for my floppy bay, and I'm wondering about the logistics. Do you manually flip the power switches on the batteries to swittch batteries? Do they both get charged? Or only the one that's turned on? Thanks.. -- _________________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From ???@??? Sun Feb 05 22:42:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29707 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 4 Feb 1995 19:54:55 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27095; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 17:43:35 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 17:43:34 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27084; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 17:43:32 -0500 Received: from [132.236.236.201] (CU-DIALUP-0631.CIT.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.236.201]) by postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA03822 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 17:37:22 -0500 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 18:38:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "kevin ong" Sender: lo16@postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu Reply-To: lo16@cornell.edu Message-Id: <67096.lo16@cornell.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re:new! Hi everyone, if you received my first mail, i must apologise for not deleting the 'welcome' message. Sorry to have taken up any of your precious hard disk space (like me). I shan't take up any more so sorry once again. Kevin From ???@??? Sun Feb 05 22:42:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15735 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 4 Feb 1995 21:29:15 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08656; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 21:26:30 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 21:26:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08646; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 21:26:26 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id SAA06321; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 18:26:12 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id SAA29847; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 18:26:11 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199502050226.SAA29847@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: battery switching? To: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 18:26:10 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199502042235.OAA04732@get.hooked.net> from "jesse montrose" at Feb 4, 95 02:40:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm considering a second battery for my floppy bay, and I'm wondering about > the logistics. > > Do you manually flip the power switches on the batteries to swittch batteries? > Do they both get charged? > > Or only the one that's turned on? Am I mistaken in thinking that the ThinkPad 75x series doesn't support more than one battery at a time? ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Sun Feb 05 22:42:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17155 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 4 Feb 1995 21:37:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08963; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 21:31:41 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 21:31:40 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08953; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 21:31:38 -0500 Received: from @get.hooked.net (tuna.hooked.net [199.2.134.11]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA02177 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 18:31:35 -0800 Message-Id: <199502050231.SAA02177@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@get.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 04 Feb 1995 18:36:19 -0800 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: battery switching? At 06:26 PM 2/4/95 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > Am I mistaken in thinking that the ThinkPad 75x series doesn't >support more than one battery at a time? My understanding is that the floppy can be removed and a second battery can take its place. -- _________________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From ???@??? Sun Feb 05 22:42:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15369 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 5 Feb 1995 09:48:12 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00405; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 09:29:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 09:29:11 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00395; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 09:29:06 -0500 Received: by GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA20694; Sun, 5 Feb 95 09:29:44 EST Date: Sun, 5 Feb 95 09:29:44 EST From: fox@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU (David Fox) Message-Id: <9502051429.AA20694@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Hello message - I'm on a 30 day trial... Hi, I just took delivery of a ThinkPad 755CE with a 500 meg drive and 8 meg installed. I'm running Linux (which runs a lot better than the FAQ would have you believe) and I've gotten PCMCIA support going, at least for my modem. Floppy drive works ok, power switch is fine, XFree86 runs in 256 color mode, all no problem. Beautiful! I guess these compatibility problems have either been overcome in Linux or resolved by IBM. Next I plan to get an Ethernet card, probably a 3C589. My big question is, where should I go for a good deal on a 32 meg memory expansion and an 800 meg hard disk? My little question is, is there any support or hope for support of the MWave DSP thingy? And my final question is, should I trade this in for the NEC with the 800x600 display and the Pentium 75 processor? From ???@??? Sun Feb 05 22:43:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17275 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 5 Feb 1995 12:01:09 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05762; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 11:02:01 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 11:01:59 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05746; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 11:01:58 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA28081; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 08:01:54 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA08039; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 08:01:53 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199502051601.IAA08039@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: battery switching? To: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 08:01:52 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199502050231.SAA02177@get.hooked.net> from "jesse montrose" at Feb 4, 95 06:36:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > At 06:26 PM 2/4/95 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > > Am I mistaken in thinking that the ThinkPad 75x series doesn't > >support more than one battery at a time? > > My understanding is that the floppy can be removed and a second battery can > take its place. Unless they changed some functionality in the 755 series, I know the 750 series cannot do this. The NEC Versa can do it, as can a couple of others now--perhaps the newest IBM ThinkPad machines (I don't know), but the 750's--nada. I guess you can call tech support or something and ask what the part number is for the floppy-bay-battery is. It would have to be different, since the regular battery (in the middle) certainly doesn't fit, let alone have the proper connector to do so. It would have been a great thing to have, but this was one area that IBM didn't seize--choosing instead to make TV Tuners, Cellular Modems, and the like to go there. ;) Anyone on the list want to confirm or deny this? ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Sun Feb 05 22:43:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20796 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 5 Feb 1995 12:16:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09604; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 12:09:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 12:09:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom14.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09594; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 12:09:44 -0500 Received: by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id JAA10116; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 09:08:21 -0800 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 09:08:21 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Buffington Subject: Re: battery switching? To: Randal Whittle Cc: jesse montrose , TP In-Reply-To: <199502050226.SAA29847@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am sure you are right, Randy... I don't think the 75X series supports a battery in the FDD bay. rogjd@netcom.com Glendale, CA AB6WR On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > > I'm considering a second battery for my floppy bay, and I'm wondering about > > the logistics. > > > > Do you manually flip the power switches on the batteries to swittch batteries? > > Do they both get charged? > > > > Or only the one that's turned on? > > Am I mistaken in thinking that the ThinkPad 75x series doesn't > support more than one battery at a time? > > ----- ________________________________ > Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | > USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | > (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | > right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | > -------------------------------- > From ???@??? Sun Feb 05 22:43:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03190 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 5 Feb 1995 13:08:25 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12235; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 13:03:24 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 13:03:23 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12225; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 13:03:20 -0500 Received: by GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA21392; Sun, 5 Feb 95 13:04:01 EST Date: Sun, 5 Feb 95 13:04:01 EST From: fox@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU (David Fox) Message-Id: <9502051804.AA21392@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Spinning down hard drive? In-Reply-To: <9502051429.AA20694@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU> References: <9502051429.AA20694@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU> My TP755CE hard disk doesn't spin down when idle under Linux. Is there a way to get this to happen? Is there power management support under Linux yet? I like it to spin down even when its plugged in because the noise bugs me. Sorry to join the list with so many questions and so few answers.... -david From ???@??? Sun Feb 05 22:43:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27057 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 5 Feb 1995 18:16:42 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29947; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 17:58:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 17:58:14 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29934; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 17:58:12 -0500 Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by smtp.utexas.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA07054 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 16:57:15 -0600 Received: from slip-23-10.ots.utexas.edu (slip-23-10.ots.utexas.edu [128.83.112.26]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA29369 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 16:56:05 -0600 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 16:56:05 -0600 Message-Id: <199502052256.QAA29369@mail.utexas.edu> X-Sender: cgentry@mail.utexas.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: cgentry@mail.utexas.edu (Chip Gentry) Subject: New Member Info X-Mailer: >Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, >how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), >and what operating system(s) you are using. (send this to the LIST >address -- don't just reply to this message!) > Greetings, I am a new member of this group. I have a ThinkPad 750 with 12 mb of RAM and a 170 mb hard disk. No accessories, per se, although I will occasionally use an NEC 3D external display with the TP750. I am using the OS/2 Warp operating system. M. L. "Chip" Gentry Teaching Assistant Dept. of Educational Psychology EDB 538A/D5800 Univ. of Texas cgentry@mail.utexas.edu From ???@??? Sun Feb 05 22:43:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21039 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 5 Feb 1995 19:35:11 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05171; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 19:21:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 19:21:47 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from lcs-m5.mgh.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05159; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 19:21:45 -0500 Received: from lcs-m5.mgh.harvard.edu by lcs-m5.mgh.harvard.edu; Sun, 5 Feb 95 19:28 EST Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 19:28:02 -0500 (EST) From: Joe Bormel Subject: Re: Spinning down hard drive? To: David Fox Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9502051804.AA21392@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII David, Can you run a DOS box in Linux? If so, try running COLAP.COM /T and pressing Right Shift and DELETE at the same time. It will send an immediate spin down which will persist until any process hits the disk. This worked under OS/2 2.1 and DOS in my TP750C. My toshiba T200 however catches a memory violation under windows, so your mileage may vary. Good luck. (Full text of Colap.doc available for your asking. It's 8K so I don't want to waster bandwidth.) COLAP is freely distributed. -Joe On Sun, 5 Feb 1995, David Fox wrote: > My TP755CE hard disk doesn't spin down when idle under Linux. Is > there a way to get this to happen? Is there power management support > under Linux yet? I like it to spin down even when its plugged in > because the noise bugs me. Sorry to join the list with so many > questions and so few answers.... > > -david > From ???@??? Sun Feb 05 22:43:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25416 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 5 Feb 1995 19:51:14 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06496; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 19:42:46 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 19:42:44 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from umunhum.Stanford.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06485; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 19:42:41 -0500 Received: (from kevin@localhost) by umunhum.Stanford.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.6) id QAA00551 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 16:42:38 -0800 From: "Kevin W. Rudd" Message-Id: <199502060042.QAA00551@umunhum.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Introductory Information (ExSum: Nothing yet!) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 16:42:37 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text hi. i'm planning on getting either a 360, 750, or 755 series, active matrix, dx2 or dx4 in the near future so it seemed like a good source of information to join the list. my primary interest is in running a portable unix system (freebsd, linux, or solaris) although i'm planning on having some multimedia use as a portable children's entertainment system for auto/train/airplane trips... of course, it seems like the new 755cd is the perfect system but the price tag is a little steep to justify to a mac-centric family. i'm leaning toward either the 360 or 750 series due to cost considerations but haven't decided if the 750's 33mhz (is that right?) and bigger screen are a better configuration than the newer 360's 25/50mhz dx2 and smaller screen. but i've looked at a lot of systems and haven't found any that i like as well as the thinkpads. except for the powerbooks of course but they don't run unix. yet. anyway, to whoever compiled/contributed-to the FAQ, thanks! ---K From ???@??? Sun Feb 05 22:43:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16404 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 5 Feb 1995 21:03:14 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11412; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 20:56:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 20:56:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from infi.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11402; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 20:56:24 -0500 Received: by infi.net (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0rbIhM-00003HC; Sun, 5 Feb 95 20:57 EST Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 20:57:04 -0500 (EST) From: James Biggerstaff Subject: New TP360C User To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, all. I had been looking at notebooks for some time, saw "Microsystems Warehouse"'s ad for a TP360C for 2K and sprang for it. Paid $19 for overnite delivery and got it the next day. Installed Warp yesterday to see how it would do. Ran slowly, of course, with virtually constant swapping. Marginally acceptable because I really like Warp. Decided to try a "pure" OS/2 setup with a HPFS filesystem. Did the install, and had a glitch when install left the HPFS driver remmed out. Not hard to fix if one is experienced, but a new user would be baffled. Warp still ran slowly, no evident change from the previous setup. Installed the IAK and that was too much for my 4MB of RAM, went into the worse case of "swapfile hell" I have seen. The IAK _did_ run, mind you, but window switching and such was very, very, very slow. So Warp will have to wait until I get more RAM. On the plus side, install recognized my PCMCIA modem and also the Western Digital video setup. I also thought the appearance on the 640x480 screen was very good, especially compared to Windows. I will definitely re-instll when I get more memory. My TP has 4MB RAM and the 170MB hard disk. More RAM is in the cards, of course, but I use this machine as a "second" computer and I think the HD capacity is OK for the time being. But one day I want to install Linux, and I will probably shop for a bigger HD then also. Overall I think it is a superb machine. The display is gorgeous and the machine is laid out very intelligently. The keyboard is very easy for me to use, although your mileage could vary there due to personal preferences. About the only gripe I can think of is that the little fold out feet that elevate the machine don't lock, and you can fold them accidentally when inserting floppy disks. Performance is adequate to good. The processor (486SX-33) is slow by today's standards, but battery life seems really excellent. I personally don't want a "rocket" CPU if that means battery life is only an hour or two. Anyody know who sells good RAM cheap???? (Oh, yeah, the IBM thingy works very well) Jim Biggerstaff jimb@infi.net Norfolk, Virginia, USA ======================================================================== These profound insights are NOT freeware. If found useful, please send money within 30 days. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:28:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20925 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 5 Feb 1995 23:14:08 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20742; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 23:15:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 23:15:11 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20689; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 23:15:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199502060415.XAA20689@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23572; Sun, 5 Feb 95 23:15:04 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 95 23:15:04 -0500 From: Chris Hanson To: jimb@infi.net Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: (message from James Biggerstaff on Sun, 5 Feb 1995 20:57:04 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: New TP360C User Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 20:57:04 -0500 (EST) From: James Biggerstaff Anyody know who sells good RAM cheap???? "alex@impediment.com" sells Kingston Technologies RAM for good prices. He carries ThinkPad RAM cards in sizes up to 32 meg. I paid $1650 for a 32 meg card from him. From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:28:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02351 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 5 Feb 1995 23:59:32 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23546; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 23:49:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 23:49:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23518; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 23:49:35 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA06985; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 20:49:32 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id UAA11713; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 20:49:29 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199502060449.UAA11713@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Introductory Information (ExSum: Nothing yet!) To: kevin@umunhum.Stanford.EDU (Kevin W. Rudd) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 20:49:26 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199502060042.QAA00551@umunhum.Stanford.EDU> from "Kevin W. Rudd" at Feb 5, 95 04:42:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > i'm leaning toward either the 360 or 750 series due to cost > considerations but haven't decided if the 750's 33mhz (is that > right?) and bigger screen are a better configuration than the newer > 360's 25/50mhz dx2 and smaller screen. If that is the only consideration (i.e., price isn't a factor), then get the 750--it is a great machine and that screen is a *lot* better than 8.5 inches--heck, just seeing the different between the 9.5 inch screen and the 10.5 inch screen made me switch from a Cs to a C (but of course, the active matrix was an improvement too). > but i've looked at a lot of > systems and haven't found any that i like as well as the thinkpads. You're in good company here. ;) > except for the powerbooks of course but they don't run unix. yet. What about A/UX? (Apple's Unix.) Won't it run on a sufficiently configured Powerbook? Even then, I wouldn't buy a Powerbook until they get a PowerPC chip into those things. Anything less is buying an obsolete machine right off the bat. The 68K chips are dead--or will be *very* soon-- as far as Macs are concerned. I can see Apple no longer even *making* a machine with a Motorola 68K chip inside of 2 years--maybe less. ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:28:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19947 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 01:31:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00241; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 01:36:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 01:36:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00230; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 01:36:23 -0500 Received: from @get.hooked.net (tuna.hooked.net [199.2.134.11]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA23750 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 22:36:12 -0800 Message-Id: <199502060636.WAA23750@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@get.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 22:41:34 -0800 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: Introductory Information (ExSum: Nothing yet!) At 08:49 PM 2/5/95 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > Even then, I wouldn't buy a Powerbook until they get a PowerPC >chip into those things. Anything less is buying an obsolete machine >right off the bat. The 68K chips are dead--or will be *very* soon-- >as far as Macs are concerned. I can see Apple no longer even *making* >a machine with a Motorola 68K chip inside of 2 years--maybe less. Aren't they supposed to be upgradable? I know, it's only a claim, but isn't that the claim? (kinda like all those 486's that are pentium upgradeable :) -- _________________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose jesse@spine.com http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:28:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05678 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:03:45 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12645; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:18:29 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:18:27 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12635; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:18:24 -0500 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 10:18:02 +0100 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:18:02 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:18:02 +0100 Message-Id: <9502060918.AA22087@octave.chorus.fr> To: fox@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU Subject: Re: Spinning down hard drive? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Take a look at the apm management code on tsx-11 site (and mirrors). file: pub/linux/packages/laptops/apm/apm_bios* -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:28:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14265 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:26:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13100; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:26:29 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:26:28 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13088; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:26:23 -0500 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 10:25:56 +0100 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:25:56 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:25:56 +0100 Message-Id: <9502060925.AA22153@octave.chorus.fr> To: kevin@umunhum.Stanford.EDU Subject: Re: Introductory Information (ExSum: Nothing yet!) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Hello Kevin, Good to see a new laptop unix user down there !! I personnally have a 360CSE. 486DX2/50 with 340Mb disk and dual scan screen. I keep a small partition for DOS/Windows (nearly 40Mb). The other part of the disk is dedicated to unix. I firstly tested FreeBSD. It runs well if you use a special kernel because there is a keyboard problem. Otherwise it seems OK. Now I run Linux (latest snapshot) with no particular problem. Thought I just have 4Mb (but I plan to extend to 12Mb), I runs well. Floppy support is now incorporated in the kernel (version 1.1.7x and higher). You just have to use floppy=thinkpad on the LILO command line for correct support. The hard disk is still a problem. You need a patched kernel. The patch is included in the kernel sources. Just have to reverse the #ifdef's. XFree is hard to configure correctly but it runs in 640x480x256 using the LCD screen. Feel free to ask for more infomation concerning Linux and Thinkpad. -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:28:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14462 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:27:03 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12603; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:16:28 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:16:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12581; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:16:23 -0500 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 10:16:02 +0100 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:16:01 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:16:01 +0100 Message-Id: <9502060916.AA22058@octave.chorus.fr> To: fox@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU Subject: Re: Hello message - I'm on a 30 day trial... Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > Hi, I just took delivery of a ThinkPad 755CE with a 500 meg drive and > 8 meg installed. I'm running Linux (which runs a lot better than the > FAQ would have you believe) and I've gotten PCMCIA support going, at > least for my modem. Floppy drive works ok, power switch is fine, > XFree86 runs in 256 color mode, all no problem. Beautiful! I guess > these compatibility problems have either been overcome in Linux or > resolved by IBM. I wonder which version of XFree you're using and what is the contents of your Xconfig file. Can you post it to the list ? Thanks. -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:28:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20679 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:44:21 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA14262; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:46:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:46:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from trust.pegasus.esprit.ec.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA14252; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:46:13 -0500 Received: from localhost by trust.pegasus.esprit.ec.org (5.65/Task-6) id AA04619; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 10:45:52 +0100 Message-Id: <9502060945.AA04619@trust.pegasus.esprit.ec.org> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP360CE: NetBSD-1.0 and RAM From: Arne Helme Date: Mon, 06 Feb 95 10:45:52 +0100 Sender: arne@pegasus.esprit.ec.org X-Mts: smtp Could someone please help me out with this one; Since IBM seems to have problems with the delivery of RAM cards to the thinkpads, I have been offered a replacement card from Kingston (either 8 MB or 16 MB). Is there anyone out there who has some experience with these cards? It seems that I'll be able to buy a 16 MB Kingston card for almost the same price as a 8 MB IBM card. This leads to my next question; are there any performance problems with running NetBSD on a thinkpad with more than 16 MB of RAM? I am not that familiar with the internals of these machines, but if I remember correctly, the performance of NetBSD degrades when the 16 MB RAM boundary is crossed. Thanks, -- Arne | Arne Helme, http://www.pegasus.esprit.ec.org/people/arne/index.html | | Inf/SPA, Univ. of Twente, Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede, Netherlands | | PHONE: +31-53-893735, FAX: +31-53-333895, HOME: +31-53-326377 | | arne@acm.org, arne@pegasus.esprit.ec.org, "Die Stille ist Abstrakt" | From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:28:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28294 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 10:33:47 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09547; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 10:00:45 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 10:00:40 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09523; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 10:00:38 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA14309; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:00:33 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 10:01:05 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <36067.jokim@mit.edu> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Introductory Information (ExSum: Nothing yet!) In message Sun, 05 Feb 1995 22:41:34 -0800, jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) writes: > At 08:49 PM 2/5/95 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > >> Even then, I wouldn't buy a Powerbook until they get a PowerPC >> chip into those things. Anything less is buying an obsolete machine > > Aren't they supposed to be upgradable? I know, it's only a claim, but > isn't that the claim? (kinda like all those 486's that are pentium > upgradeable :) -- Apple's upgrades are like IBM's upgrades. Usually you can buy a new machine for maybe 10%-50% more. And last I heard they still insist on taking the old motherboard/CPU/whatever. _________________________________________________________________ |\ ________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "I have become One with my computer. | | | jokim@mit.edu I have reached . . . Nerdvana." | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu - Dilbert, by Scott Adams | \|_________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:28:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00689 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 11:39:37 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11512; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 10:21:26 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 10:21:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11489; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 10:21:19 -0500 Received: by GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA25126; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:21:53 EST Date: Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:21:53 EST From: fox@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU (David Fox) Message-Id: <9502061521.AA25126@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: rde@tadpole.co.uk, eranian@chorus.fr Subject: TP755CE XF86Config for 1024x768 Several people have requested my config file for 1024x768. I was afraid I would have to disappoint them because when I went back to check it, it no longer worked. What I discovered is that you have to power the machine on with the monitor connected so it comes up with the LCD screen off for this to work. Otherwise it goes into a fixed 640x480 mode, presumably for the safety of the LCD circuitry. Here it is, the refresh rate is a little slow but it works on my 755CE. (Be careful, I fudged the horizontal and vertical refresh rates and stuff like that.) # $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/XF86Conf.cpp,v 3.6 1994/09/26 15:30:19 dawes Exp $ # # Copyright (c) 1994 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the # XFree86 Project. # # ********************************************************************** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. This man page is installed as /usr/X11R6/man/man5/XF86Config.5x # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ********************************************************************** Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together), # as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath # command (or a combination of both methods) FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" # XCOMM FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" # XCOMM FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" # XCOMM FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" # XCOMM FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Server flags section. # ********************************************************************** Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging # NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the server abort sequence # DontZap EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Input devices # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Keyboard section # ********************************************************************** Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" # when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the # following line # Protocol "Xqueue" AutoRepeat 500 5 ServerNumLock # Specifiy which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Xleds 1 2 3 # To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, # RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock: # LeftAlt Meta # RightAlt ModeShift # RightCtl Compose # ScrollLock ModeLock EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Pointer section # ********************************************************************** Section "Pointer" Protocol "PS/2" Device "/dev/mouse" # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. # Protocol "Xqueue" # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice # BaudRate 9600 # SampleRate 150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice # Emulate3Buttons # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice # ChordMiddle EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Monitor section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Unknown" # Bandwidth is in MHz unless units are specified Bandwidth 25.2 # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. # HorizSync 31.5 # typical for a single frequency fixed-sync monitor HorizSync 30-64 # multisync # HorizSync 31.5, 35.38 # multiple fixed sync frequencies # HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. # VertRefresh 60 # typical for a single frequency fixed-sync monitor VertRefresh 50-100 # multisync # VertRefresh 60, 65 # multiple fixed sync frequencies # VertRefresh 40-50, 80-100 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies # Modes can be specified in two formats. A compact one-line format, or # a multi-line format. # A generic VGA 640x480 mode (hsync = 31.5kHz, refresh = 60Hz) # These two are equivalent # ModeLine "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525 Mode "640x480" DotClock 28.3 HTimings 640 664 760 800 VTimings 480 491 493 525 EndMode # These two are equivalent # ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace Mode "1024x768i" DotClock 44 HTimings 1024 1048 1208 1264 VTimings 768 776 784 817 Flags "Interlace" EndMode # Mode "1024x768" # DotClock 44 # HTimings 1024 1048 1208 1264 # VTimings 768 776 784 817 # EndMode ModeLine "800x600" 44 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 -hsync -vsync ModeLine "800x600" 65 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 -hsync -vsync ModeLine "1024x768" 65 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync # ModeLine "1024x768" 85 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Graphics device section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of graphics device sections may be present Section "Device" Identifier "Generic VGA" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" Chipset "generic" # VideoRam 256 # Clocks 25.2 28.3 EndSection Section "Device" # SVGA server auto-detected chipset Identifier "Generic SVGA" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" # Clocks 28.35 28.32 28.32 28.32 28.35 28.68 28.32 28.32 28.36 28.33 28.33 28.33 28.33 28.33 28.33 28.33 49.85 EndSection # Section "Device" # Identifier "Any Trident TVGA 9000" # VendorName "Trident" # BoardName "TVGA 9000" # Chipset "tvga9000" # VideoRam 512 # Clocks 25 28 45 36 57 65 50 40 25 28 0 45 72 77 80 75 # EndSection # Section "Device" # Identifier "Actix GE32+ 2MB" # VendorName "Actix" # BoardName "GE32+" # Ramdac "ATT20C490" # Dacspeed 110 # Option "dac_8_bit" # Clocks 25.0 28.0 40.0 0.0 50.0 77.0 36.0 45.0 # Clocks 130.0 120.0 80.0 31.0 110.0 65.0 75.0 94.0 # EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections # ********************************************************************** # The colour SVGA server Section "Screen" Driver "svga" Device "Generic SVGA" Monitor "Generic Monitor" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" # Modes "800x600" # Modes "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 #Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The 16-colour VGA server Section "Screen" Driver "vga16" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "Generic Monitor" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The Mono server Section "Screen" Driver "vga2" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "Generic Monitor" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32) # Section "Screen" # Driver "accel" # Device "Actix GE32+ 2MB" # Monitor "Generic Monitor" # Subsection "Display" # Depth 8 # Modes "640x480" # ViewPort 0 0 # Virtual 1280 1024 # EndSubsection # SubSection "Display" # Depth 16 # Weight 565 # Modes "640x480" # ViewPort 0 0 # Virtual 1024 768 # EndSubsection # EndSection From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:29:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03011 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 12:45:59 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18307; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 11:41:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 11:41:07 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from s.psych.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18289; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 11:41:01 -0500 Received: from kentucky (kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu) by s.psych.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24399 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 10:40:47 -0600 Received: by kentucky (4.1/9.7) id AA10067; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:41:39 CST Date: Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:41:39 CST From: stanwass@kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu (Stanley Wasserman) Message-Id: <9502061641.AA10067@kentucky> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: ramboost Cc: stanwass@kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu Dear all: I have been using the "standard" config.sys, which I believe was discussed about a year ago on the net. My config.sys uses a ramboost program, to put all device drivers in higher memory. Well, I just upgraded to DOS6.2, only to find out that my current 6.0 version of RAMBOOST no longer works. Does anyone know where I can get a compatible RAMBOOST? Thanks in advance! Stan Wasserman sw@uiuc.edu From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:29:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29994 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 13:38:58 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22854; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 12:35:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 12:35:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22838; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 12:35:41 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id MAA08463; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 12:38:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 12:38:53 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: kevin ong Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: New! In-Reply-To: <60993.lo16@cornell.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, kevin ong wrote: > i'm new on this list. I own a TP360Cs. So far i've been satisfied with it > except that i regret not getting one with 340 MB HD instead of a 170 MB HD > that i have now. It runs on 33 Mhz . The thing is that to upgrade the HDD, > it would cost at least $500 if i got an IBM HDD. Has anyone got any > suggestions? Ideally, i would like to pay around $400 and hopefullt get a > discount for trading in my HDD. Alternatively, i've been looking around at > portable HDD which connects to PCMCIA jack. I appreciate any suggestions. > Thanks in advance. Point your web browser at http://shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad.html. There's several archived messages about upgrading HDs in TPs with the removable HDs. From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:29:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16310 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 14:13:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22683; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 12:32:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 12:32:42 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22657; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 12:32:29 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id MAA08287; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 12:35:37 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 12:35:37 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Chris Hanson Cc: jimb@infi.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: New TP360C User In-Reply-To: <199502060415.XAA20689@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 5 Feb 1995, Chris Hanson wrote: > Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 20:57:04 -0500 (EST) > From: James Biggerstaff > > Anyody know who sells good RAM cheap???? > > "alex@impediment.com" sells Kingston Technologies RAM for good prices. > He carries ThinkPad RAM cards in sizes up to 32 meg. I paid $1650 for > a 32 meg card from him. Got mine from RSVPeripherals, 1-800-554-7787 ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:29:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23017 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 16:24:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06772; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:35:57 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:35:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06739; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:35:41 -0500 Received: from itc16.kendall.mdcc.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQybyo20666; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:35:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:35:07 -0500 Message-Id: From: "whiteside@acm.org" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla/0.9 Beta (Windows) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: http://www.hotwired.com/Signal/Fetish/ I'm on a test machine, please don't respond to this account or it goes to my mail drop. Replies to dwhite@shadow.net as usual, please.... Found this on a web page, thought it may be of interest to my fellow TP users experencing a space crunch.... **** When you need to take your work home with you, forget about loading up a dozen or more floppy disks, or shuffling a SyQuest drive back and forth. Just plug the Zip drive into your PC port and zap away. This compact 100-Mbyte portable disk drive provides plug-and-play capability right out of the box for PC and Mac users. The Zip disks, which look similar to a standard 3.5 floppy, come in two storage capacities: 25-Mbyte and 100-Mbyte. Zip drive: about US$199. Zip disks: about US$19.95, 100-Mbyte; $9.95, 25-Mbyte. Iomega Corporation: (800) 697 8833, +1 (801) 778 1000. From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:29:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18262 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 17:16:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06696; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:35:19 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:35:17 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06681; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:35:14 -0500 Received: from itc16.kendall.mdcc.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQybyo20529; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:34:43 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:34:43 -0500 Message-Id: From: "whiteside@acm.org" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla/0.9 Beta (Windows) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: http://www.hotwired.com/Signal/Fetish/ I'm on a test machine, please don't respond to this account or it goes to my mail drop. Replies to dwhite@shadow.net as usual, please.... Found this on a web page, thought it may be of interest to my fellow TP users experencing a space crunch.... **** When you need to take your work home with you, forget about loading up a dozen or more floppy disks, or shuffling a SyQuest drive back and forth. Just plug the Zip drive into your PC port and zap away. This compact 100-Mbyte portable disk drive provides plug-and-play capability right out of the box for PC and Mac users. The Zip disks, which look similar to a standard 3.5 floppy, come in two storage capacities: 25-Mbyte and 100-Mbyte. Zip drive: about US$199. Zip disks: about US$19.95, 100-Mbyte; $9.95, 25-Mbyte. Iomega Corporation: (800) 697 8833, +1 (801) 778 1000. From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:29:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20679 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 17:21:21 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04468; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:11:00 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:10:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04449; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:10:51 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id MAA03832; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 12:10:00 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id MAA20522; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 12:07:07 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199502062007.MAA20522@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Introductory Information (ExSum: Nothing yet!) To: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 12:07:05 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199502060636.WAA23750@get.hooked.net> from "jesse montrose" at Feb 5, 95 10:41:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > At 08:49 PM 2/5/95 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > > Even then, I wouldn't buy a Powerbook until they get a PowerPC > >chip into those things. Anything less is buying an obsolete machine > >right off the bat. The 68K chips are dead--or will be *very* soon-- > >as far as Macs are concerned. I can see Apple no longer even *making* > >a machine with a Motorola 68K chip inside of 2 years--maybe less. > > Aren't they supposed to be upgradable? I know, it's only a claim, but isn't > that the claim? (kinda like all those 486's that are pentium upgradeable :) Sort of. Some machines are more upgradable than others, but as always, its usually a kludge. One model of Powerbook is PPC upgradable, but the upgrade is not available yet. Some of the Quadras have the ability to be "upgraded" to a PPC chip via a board in a NuBus slot. But as always, these have their drawbacks--and then there are most of the Mac machines which simply can't be upgraded at all. The problem here is that the PPC is *entirely* different architecture. Its not quite as simple as getting one of those Cyrix "486" upgrade chips to stick on top of an old 386 chip. ----- ________________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Y'know, Tuna just | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!)| doesn't taste the same | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | since they took the | right, they should be yours too.) | Dolphin out! | -------------------------------- From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:29:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20882 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 17:21:42 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26003; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 13:25:24 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 13:25:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25987; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 13:25:18 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id NAA11256; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 13:28:32 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 13:28:31 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Arne Helme Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP360CE: NetBSD-1.0 and RAM In-Reply-To: <9502060945.AA04619@trust.pegasus.esprit.ec.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 6 Feb 1995, Arne Helme wrote: > Could someone please help me out with this one; Since IBM seems to > have problems with the delivery of RAM cards to the thinkpads, I have > been offered a replacement card from Kingston (either 8 MB or 16 MB). > Is there anyone out there who has some experience with these cards? > It seems that I'll be able to buy a 16 MB Kingston card for almost the > same price as a 8 MB IBM card. This leads to my next question; are > there any performance problems with running NetBSD on a thinkpad with > more than 16 MB of RAM? I am not that familiar with the internals of > these machines, but if I remember correctly, the performance of NetBSD > degrades when the 16 MB RAM boundary is crossed. I believe you're extrapolating outward from the fact that bus mastering SCSI cards perform badly above 16M. Any bus mastering device in an ISA machine (since the bus only has 16 bits for addressing) must use bounce buffering. This makes it not as efficient as accessing the lower 16M of memory. GENERAL performance should not be effected. And since the TP uses IDE, which is not a DMA device, this is not applicable. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ I am NSA of Borg: your private key will be assimilated. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:29:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28729 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 17:37:56 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12817; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 16:48:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 16:48:07 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from teal.csn.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12801; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 16:48:02 -0500 Received: by teal.csn.org id AA25871 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 14:46:31 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 14:46:31 -0700 From: "Vincent B. Wayland" Message-Id: <199502062146.AA25871@teal.csn.org> To: dwhite@shadow.net, lo16@cornell.edu Subject: Re: New! Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >From JABLONOWSKI.EUGENE@epamail.epa.gov Mon Feb 6 11:23:17 1995 Received: from shemp.csn.net by teal.csn.org with SMTP id AA18876 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 11:23:12 -0700 Received: from ARTHUR.RTPTOK.EPA.GOV (arthur.rtptok.epa.gov [134.67.212.29]) by shemp.csn.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA06547 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 11:23:18 -0700 From: JABLONOWSKI.EUGENE@epamail.epa.gov Received: from RTPMAINHUB-Message_Server by ARTHUR.RTPTOK.EPA.GOV with WordPerfect_Office; Mon, 06 Feb 1995 13:00:45 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Mon, 06 Feb 1995 13:15:10 -0500 To: vwayland@csn.org Subject: Bigger Hard Drives -Reply Status: R Thank you greatly for this information, and actually providing a manufaturer and a source. :) Gene J >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Received: from virginia.edu by merlin.rtpnc.epa.gov (8.6.9/1.34) id MAA07046; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 12:36:19 -0500 Received: from Virginia.EDU by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa17757; 6 Feb 95 12:16 EST Received: from teal.csn.org by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa17740; 6 Feb 95 12:15 EST Received: by teal.csn.org id AA03945 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ibm-tp500@virginia.edu); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 10:15:45 -0700 I chased down some information from Areal Drives. THey made (some of?) the original 80 MB TP500 drives. The currently available largest drive that Areal makes that will fit in the TP500 is the A340. They will be coming out with the A560 in late spring or summer. The A260, A340 and A560 are all 15 mm high, which will fit into the TP500, according to the district salesman. The A240 and A350 are in plentiful supply. Areal also makes the A265 and A345 which are newer and 12.5 mm high and in short supply. My closest source is Budget Computers, 8745 Orchard Rd., Engelwood, CO. (303) 741-4505. They sell the A340 for $329 +tax, S&H, $25 installation charge (data copying extra). They also take credit cards. I may stop in on my way to the 'Springs later this week to verify all this. The tech that I talked to on the phone said that they done 59 Toshibas last week. Another distributor is Propeller in Orem, Utah. (801) 221-5999. Your mileage may vary. All the usual disclaimers. Vince <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:29:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28086 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 18:49:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19826; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 18:19:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 18:19:41 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from umunhum.Stanford.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19804; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 18:19:38 -0500 Received: from vliw.turnover (vliw [36.14.0.76]) by umunhum.Stanford.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA12041 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:19:27 -0800 From: "Kevin W. Rudd" Message-Id: <199502062319.PAA12041@umunhum.Stanford.EDU> Subject: "performance" vs. "display" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:17:32 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks to all who (directly/indirectly) responded to my previous introductory message! quite a friendly and helpful welcome! it seems that people have the spectrum of thinkpads covered. i'm just curious, particularly for those who use linux (and netbsd), how important the performance of the machine is (i.e. dx2-50 vs dx4-75 or dx4-100) as well as the size of the screen. sitting here with a 21" high-res monitor on my workstation (and a similar one on my macintosh) i've become accustomed to both size and resolution. but a previous 17" display with similar resolution on a different workstation posed no problem for me at all. for those who've compared in detail the 8.4" vs the 10.4", is there a distinct difference in the legibility and comfortable duration of use of these two? other than the new thinkpad 755 models with the improved performance/bit-depth screens, it doesn't seem to me that the size will be as big a problem as the limited 640x480 resolution that they have in all cases. perhaps a more limiting concern is the power of the processor. not being familiar with the intel products from experience, i don't know whether or not to expect the dx2-50 to behave significantly differently from the dx4-100---i.e., to have half the performance as the marketeers would like me to believe. i'm much more inclined to believe that there will be closer to a 1.3x speedup based on the base processor speeds (33mhz vs. 25mhz) since neither one has an incredibly high performance cache---neither 8kb nor 16kb seems like it would be all that much different in the unix environment. i have a hard time justifying to myself (and my wife who isn't all that excited about a portable unix machine in the first place!) the price differential between the 360C and the 755CE or 755CD (actually, the 755CD appears to be a better deal than the 755CE for the increment in features) seems like a lot for what doesn't appear to return a lot in performance or ability. so the upshot of this is, how important (and to what degrees) is the processor and the display worth the upgrade or is the 360C really at about the right price/performance point for someone who can't always justify his urges for power at any price? thanks! hopefully one day i can return the favor! ---K From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:30:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22057 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 19:58:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24183; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 19:30:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 19:30:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24165; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 19:30:37 -0500 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03506; Mon, 6 Feb 95 16:31:25 PST Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940715.SGI.52/911001.SGI) for @cs.nps.navy.mil:tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id AA04602; Mon, 6 Feb 95 16:31:23 -0800 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9502061631.ZM4600@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 16:31:21 -0800 In-Reply-To: "Kevin W. Rudd" "performance" vs. "display" (Feb 6, 3:17pm) References: <199502062319.PAA12041@umunhum.Stanford.EDU> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: "performance" vs. "display" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 > sitting here with a 21" high-res monitor on my workstation (and a > similar one on my macintosh) i've become accustomed to both size and > resolution. but a previous 17" display with similar resolution on a > different workstation posed no problem for me at all. for those > who've compared in detail the 8.4" vs the 10.4", is there a distinct > difference in the legibility and comfortable duration of use of these > two? other than the new thinkpad 755 models with the improved > performance/bit-depth screens, it doesn't seem to me that the size > will be as big a problem as the limited 640x480 resolution that they > have in all cases. Kevin, I am also used to having large (21") high-resolution monitors. I tend to experience *severe* eye strain when working for long periods of time on my 755C (10.4"). However, I've also used a Toshiba with an 8.5" screen and the eyestrain is even worse. BTW, Toshiba makes the LCD panels for the Thinkpads, so I _am_ comparing apples to apples. Although it doesn't sound like a big difference, the 10.4" screen has 22% more screen area than the 8.5". Robert From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:30:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08255 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 20:42:28 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27448; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 20:23:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 20:23:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27417; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 20:23:03 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA00738; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 19:22:59 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 20:23:31 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <73412.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: New files via ftp New files on ftp.pcco.ibm.com: IBM Portables, Notebooks, Laptops /pub/mobiles ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- tpd102_2.exe 447960 01-24-95 755CE/CD MWAVE Upgrade for DOS 2/2 tpw102_1.exe 1308773 01-24-95 755CE/CD MWAVE Upgrade for Windows 1/2 tpd102_1.exe 1061537 01-24-95 755CE/CD MWAVE Upgrade for DOS 1/2 tpw102_2.exe 775602 01-24-95 755CE/CD MWAVE Upgrade for Windows 2/2 thkpdwp1.exe 931873 01-10-95 755CE/CD MWAVE update for OS/2 Warp tpmemhlp.exe 37251 01-10-95 MemoryHelp/AudioDriver 355,360,750,755 Anybody know what this last one is? _________________________________________________________________ |\ ________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "I have become One with my computer. | | | jokim@mit.edu I have reached . . . Nerdvana." | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu - Dilbert, by Scott Adams | \|_________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:30:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29529 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 23:18:10 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09765; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 23:13:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 23:13:56 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09738; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 23:13:50 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id XAA05845 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 23:14:18 -0500 Received: by channel1 (NetXpress 2.02) with UUCP id 1F7840; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 22:21:18 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Megahertz 28.8 From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.780189.700@channel1.com> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 1995 18:39:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Subject: Megahertz 28.8 Greetings, I have a 750c, and am using QmodemPro for Windows. I just received my Megahertz 28.8 PCMCIA modem. 14.4 works great on 14.4 boards, but i can only connect at 24.0 on 28.8 boards. As far as CPS, at 24.0 i'm getting about 26.000 and at 14.4 I get about 16.500. Anyone have any ideas?! Thanks, Joseph --- * Tag-X Pro v0.95b * Liberals! Looks like we'll have to blast our way out! From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:30:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00176 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Feb 1995 23:19:58 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09756; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 23:13:57 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 23:13:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09728; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 23:13:47 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id XAA05841 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 23:14:17 -0500 Received: by channel1 (NetXpress 2.02) with UUCP id 1F783F; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 22:21:18 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Megahertz Upgrade?? From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.780188.700@channel1.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 19:25:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Subject: Megahertz Upgrade?? I have a problem regarding Megahertz, and their policy up upgrading their X-Jack's 14.4 to 28.8. When i first purchased my modem i was specifically told that i could trade in my 14.4 and receive a 28.8 and just pay the difference. Well....now i call to follow up on their word and i'm told by a senior Megahertz guy named Rick Shrader that, "the policy you refer to is no longer in effect, we are not in the business of used modems". They went on to say, "the policy you refer to was only applicable to the 9600 baud modems". I then informed him if that was the case, why was that policy of speed upgrade clearly written on page B1 of the Appendix section of my 14.4 Gold Series Reference Manual. The date of this manual is clearly written on the inside of the front cover...the date is 1994. I then asked him if that policy only applied to the 9600 line, WHY was it written on a 14.4 manual dated 1994. Mr. Shrader couldn't reply, all he said was for me to fax him copies of both pages of my manual. --- * Tag-X Pro v0.95b * I tried to drown my problems but they can swim! From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:31:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07892 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 7 Feb 1995 09:28:16 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22422; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 09:10:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 09:10:53 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hincks.physics.carleton.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22408; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 09:10:45 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 9:10:41 -0500 (EST) From: "STEVE GODFREY, (613) 788-4386" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: GODFREY@physics.carleton.ca Message-Id: <950207091041.22c0e46c@physics.carleton.ca> Subject: megahertz 28.8 I have a us robotics 28.8 external. I am told that the modem tests the line to find the maximum baud rate it can use. I usually get 26. and sometimes get 28.8 and 24.0. I think it is line quality that is the problem. Steve Godfrey From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:31:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24971 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 7 Feb 1995 10:07:20 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23323; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 09:23:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 09:23:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23313; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 09:23:46 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA07728; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 08:23:44 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 09:24:17 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <33858.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: "performance" vs. "display" In message Mon, 6 Feb 1995 16:31:21 -0800, "Robert George" writes: > Although it doesn't sound like a big difference, the 10.4" screen > has 22% more screen area than the 8.5". 53% more screen area. 22% larger on each axis. _________________________________________________________________ |\ ________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "I have become One with my computer. | | | jokim@mit.edu I have reached . . . Nerdvana." | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu - Dilbert, by Scott Adams | \|_________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:31:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17736 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 7 Feb 1995 13:58:27 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07764; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 12:09:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 12:09:30 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from infi.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07754; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 12:09:28 -0500 Received: by infi.net (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0rbtQS-00005AC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 12:10 EST Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 12:10:04 -0500 (EST) From: James Biggerstaff Subject: Re: megahertz 28.8 To: "STEVE GODFREY, (613) 788-4386" Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, GODFREY@physics.carleton.ca In-Reply-To: <950207091041.22c0e46c@physics.carleton.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 7 Feb 1995, STEVE GODFREY, (613) 788-4386 wrote: > I have a us robotics 28.8 external. I am told that the modem tests the > line to find the maximum baud rate it can use. I usually get 26. and > sometimes get 28.8 and 24.0. I think it is line quality that is the > problem. > This is the same general experience I have had with my Supra V.FC modem. You only get 28.8 under perfect conditions. Damp drizzly days seem to help! I generally get a 26.X connection, with 28.8 as a welcome bonus sometimes. Jim Biggerstaff jimb@infi.net Norfolk, Virginia, USA ======================================================================== These profound insights are NOT freeware. If found useful, please send money within 30 days. ======================================================================== From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:32:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00520 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 7 Feb 1995 18:58:57 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06165; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 18:04:43 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 18:04:41 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06155; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 18:04:40 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id SAA11888 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 18:05:12 -0500 Received: by channel1 (NetXpress 2.02) with UUCP id 1F78C9; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:27:56 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Megahertz Upgrade?? NOT! From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.781908.700@channel1.com> In-Reply-To: <9502070555.AA26350@milanese.MIT.EDU> Date: Tue, 07 Feb 1995 11:45:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Subject: Megahertz Upgrade?? NOT! +--------- Ajm1@mit.Edu spoke of Re: Megahertz Upgrade?? --------- -.. |please keep me posted regarding the mhz upgrade... I have the same modem. | |If you want me to call Mhz, let me know and i'll bug them on my side... | | |thanks.. |Art | |Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | ajm1@mit.edu |Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology | http://www.mit.edu:8001/afs/athena.mit.edu/user/a/j/ajm1/www/top.html |-------------------------------------------------------------------------- |"That Person you see in the Mirror is made up of D-Amino Acids" --C.P. +---- to Joseph Pereira ----- -.. I got the 28.8 but I had to pay full price......I'm returning it though. I'm having all sorts of problems with it, problems I never experienced with my MHZ 14.4. Such as being forced to connect at 4800, staying online after logging off a system, getting a "shriek" with no connect, getting no Ansi when logging on. I never had any difficulty with the 14.4...it's just not worth the aggregation. I'll wait until they iron out the bugs. Joseph --- * Tag-X Pro v0.95b * American kids have Ninetendo. Japanese kids have homework From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 00:32:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01249 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 7 Feb 1995 20:34:24 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12776; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 20:05:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 20:05:35 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12759; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 20:05:31 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA25584; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 19:05:28 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 20:06:00 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <72361.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Megahertz Upgrade?? NOT! In message Tue, 07 Feb 1995 11:45:00 -0500, joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) writes: > I got the 28.8 but I had to pay full price......I'm returning > it though. I'm having all sorts of problems with it, problems .... > the aggregation. I'll wait until they iron out the bugs. How long is the upgrade good for? Some companies set a time limit, like you must upgrade within 90 days. > * Tag-X Pro v0.95b * American kids have Ninetendo. Japanese kids have > homework You know, back when the top rated TV show in the U.S. was "L.A. Law," the top U.S. show in Korea and Japan was "MacGyver." Kinda makes you wonder, especially with the OJ trial on almost continuously. _________________________________________________________________ |\ ________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "I have become One with my computer. | | | jokim@mit.edu I have reached . . . Nerdvana." | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu - Dilbert, by Scott Adams | \|_________________________________________________________________| From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 11:05:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28728 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 8 Feb 1995 01:49:50 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04272; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 01:48:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 01:48:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04262; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 01:48:37 -0500 Received: from novlpr.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP) id <13919-2@alf.uib.no>; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 07:48:15 +0100 Received: From EDBSENT1/WORKQUEUE1 by novlpr.uib.no via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.950208074710.960; 08 Feb 95 07:48:14 -100 Message-Id: From: Thor +ivind Jensen To: strat@dsd.northrop.com Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 14:39:31 MET Subject: Re: QEMM on TP750 Reply-To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) > > > I'm surprised the hibernation works correctly. When I run it, the screen > > > "melts" (ie, someone is stomping on the VGA buffer). The hibernation itself > > > still works properly. What is the date of your qemm executable? Have there > > > been newer patches since qpat2.exe? I was so pleased with QEMM that i took the chance of removing X=A000-BFFF and X= E000-F7FF. Then I had 632K in DOS and 627K in Windows. But when going into hibernation I hade the same experience as you mentioned. When I also removed the old I=C000-DFFF statement nothing further happened. One of the X areas above, or part of them will get the hiberantion screen OK. I hope for precise information and if I don't get it I will expriment myself and give information back. From ???@??? Wed Feb 08 11:05:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05110 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 8 Feb 1995 09:24:23 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06140; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 09:11:45 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 09:11:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06128; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 09:11:37 -0500 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA01287; Wed, 8 Feb 95 07:10:51 MST Date: Wed, 8 Feb 95 07:10:51 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9502081410.AA01287@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 4MB RAM card for sale 4MB Simple Technology RAM card for the TP360/755. Card is 6 months old and carries a lifetime manufacturer's warranty. $140 or best. If interested, please follow up via email. Thanks, - key _________________________________________________________________ Karl E. Yeanoplos | kyeanopl@den.mmc.com Martin Marietta Corp. | P.O. Box 179/M.S. 5451 | Denver, CO. 80201 | key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 04:28:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19545; Mon, 27 Feb 95 04:28:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00512; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 04:21:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 04:21:53 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00466; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 04:21:46 -0500 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 09:36:32 +0100 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Mon, 27 Feb 95 09:36:30 +0100 Date: Mon, 27 Feb 95 09:36:30 +0100 Message-Id: <9502270836.AA11060@octave.chorus.fr> To: macd@panix.com Subject: Re: Linux/X-Windows on a 755ce Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Hello Michael, I have a ThinkPad 360CSE 4/340Mb, I have succesfully installed Linux >from Slackware distribution disk. Although, it requires a specific kernel because of the floppy and hdd. The floppy patch can be activated from the LILO command line prompt. But the HD, must be compiled. If you are insterested I can give you a kernel image. Now concerning X-window, you have got a TFT screen, so you should have less problems. I ran XFree-2.1 with no problem, but I need to use a patched version because of the way double scan video memory is organized. I do not have an internal MWave modem, so I can't comment out that part. Before installing Linux, I made some test with FreeBSD-2.0. It runs nicely if you have a patched kernel version (yes, one more patch) because of a keyboard problem. I also have a bootable diskimage for this one, if you want ? Regards, -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 10:53:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10798; Mon, 27 Feb 95 10:53:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05019; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:40:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:40:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05010; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:40:35 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id KAA26786; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:37:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199502271537.KAA26786@wilma.cs.utk.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: ADMIN: apology/explanation/corrective-action Cc: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Reply-To: moore@CS.UTK.EDU From: Keith Moore Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:37:16 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Apology: I apologize for the duplicated messages which were sent to the tp750 list, and for whatever loss of service you suffered as a result. I attempt to make my mailing lists robust and reasonably immune to catastrophe, but this time it fell short of that goal. Explanation: The massive dumping of duplicate messages to the tp750 list was caused by a criminally brain-damaged mail gateway used by three of the recipients of the list. For every mail message sent to the list, the gateway was generating three separate bounce messages to the list owner (that's me). In addition, the gateway was sending the entire message back to the list. Our log files show a total of 1854 errant messages sent by that gateway before it was stopped. It took a long time to find the problem because of the tremendous traffic load which caused: our mail server to run out of swap space (thus slowing down local delivery), and my postmaster mailbox to run out of disk space (which also caused delivery failure to my tp750 mailbox). I spent quite some time attempting to clean up those problems before I realized that the tp750 list was also getting flooded. At that point I shut down our entire mail system, and spent several hours flushing all of the messages which were queued for the list, and devising a way to turn things back on again without causing another loop. All in all it took a total of about 8 hours >from the time I noticed the problem until I was able to turn things back on. What makes this even more annoying (to me) is that I have contacted this site several times to warn them that their mail gateway software was likely to cause just this kind of problem, and urging them to get their software fixed. They never even bothered to reply. (In the future, I will immediately remove any site whose mail software demonstrates the same bugs as this one.) Corrective action: 1) the recipients have been permanently removed from the tp750 list 2) the mail server at cs.utk.edu now has a "dead end" route installed so that it cannot talk to the mailer that caused the problem. (the other end will always see "connection timed out"). Other actions (technical and otherwise) are being considered. Suggestions for retaliation are welcomed. Keith Moore postmaster@cs.utk.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 13:57:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21665; Mon, 27 Feb 95 13:57:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21827; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 13:43:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 13:43:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom19.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21807; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 13:42:59 -0500 Received: by netcom19.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id KAA26343; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:42:38 -0800 Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:42:38 -0800 From: wyman@netcom.com (Wyman Chong) Message-Id: <199502271842.KAA26343@netcom19.netcom.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Mwave on a system with more than 16MB. Hi, I heard that the DSP will not work a a TP755CE with more than 16MB. Is this true? If so, are there any workarounds? Thanks. Wyman From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 14:16:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22748; Mon, 27 Feb 95 14:16:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22546; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 13:51:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 13:51:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ub-gate.UB.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22536; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 13:51:50 -0500 Received: from garfield (garfield.UB.com) by ub-gate.UB.com (4.1/SMI-4.1[UB-1.9.1]) id AA24991; Mon, 27 Feb 95 10:51:17 PST Received: from smtp.UB.com ([128.203.7.39]) by garfield (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08422; Mon, 27 Feb 95 10:51:00 PST Received: by smtp.UB.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.0)/1.2) id AA1438; Mon, 27 Feb 95 10:52:55 -0800 Message-Id: <9502271852.AA1438@smtp.UB.com> Received: from UB with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 603E1AC52DC4F40485256170006797DC; Mon, 27 Feb 95 10:52:54 To: tp750 From: Ken Yee/UB Networks Date: 27 Feb 95 13:51:59 EDT Subject: FYI: IBM's New Notebook Computer Has Larger Screen, Keyboard>IBM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain To: cc: (bcc: Tandem 2nd Class Mail) From: nobody @ tandem.com @ SMTP Date: 02/23/95 08:35:37 PM Subject: IBM's New Notebook Computer Has Larger Screen, Keyboard>IBM NEW YORK -AP- International Business Machines Corp. (IBM) next month will begin selling a small portable computer with a large screen and a unique keyboard that slides to full size when the machine is opened. The machine, called the ThinkPad 701C, solves two major complaints - tiny screens and cramped keys - about devices known as subnotebook computers. The product is strategically important to IBM since its PC operation has been mired in difficulties. IBM, which had led the industry in PC sales since the mid-1980s, fell behind three other companies last year and, some analysts estimate, lost $1 billion in that business. Notebook computers have been profitable for the company but, until recently, IBM had trouble meeting demand for them. Subnotebooks are defined as computers that weigh less than four pounds. To reach that size, computer makers previously have shrunk the keys and kept screens tiny. But on the new IBM computer, an 11.5-inch keyboard has been made to fit on a machine that is only 9.5 inches long. When the lid is lifted, a series of levers and arms slide the left half of the keyboard to the left and the right half down and to the right until they fit together. ''If you're someone who likes watching the gears of a watch turn, you'll love this thing,'' said Brian Nadel, senior editor of PC Magazine, which put the machine on the cover of its current issue. The new IBM machine also has a screen with a 10.4-inch diagonal measurement, compared with a 7-inch screen on earlier models. IBM has priced the machine at a premium, however. A ThinkPad 701C with a 486 chip running at 50 MHz and a 540 megabyte hard drive is expected to cost $5,000 when it goes on sale March 7. IBM today declined to confirm details about the product or release photos of it, despite the coverage in PC Magazine and other industry publications. Spokesman Mike Corrado said IBM executives do not want to ruin splashy rollout plans for March 7. 3:10 PM Attachments: None From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 14:23:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22925; Mon, 27 Feb 95 14:23:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23782; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:09:05 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:09:03 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23772; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:09:01 -0500 From: Received: from MILANESE.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA16223; Mon, 27 Feb 95 14:08:12 EST Received: by milanese.MIT.EDU (5.57/4.7) id AA09497; Mon, 27 Feb 95 14:08:06 -0500 Message-Id: <9502271908.AA09497@milanese.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Found cheaper hd upgrade. Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:08:02 EST I just bought a 750c with 170 hard drive last week and wanted to get a 340. The first place I called out of Computer Shopper had the thinkpad 340M IBM drives for $349. (Indus Group 1-800-644-6387). I ordered one. It appears to be brand new complete with all the software normally installed on a 755c. I have sinced reformatted the whole thing and installed Linux and am quite happy with it. Bill Daughton -------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 14:26:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23410; Mon, 27 Feb 95 14:26:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23497; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:05:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:05:30 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ub-gate.UB.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23480; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:05:26 -0500 Received: from garfield (garfield.UB.com) by ub-gate.UB.com (4.1/SMI-4.1[UB-1.9.1]) id AA25924; Mon, 27 Feb 95 11:04:53 PST Received: from smtp.UB.com ([128.203.7.39]) by garfield (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08629; Mon, 27 Feb 95 11:04:37 PST Received: by smtp.UB.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.0)/1.2) id AA1593; Mon, 27 Feb 95 11:06:32 -0800 Message-Id: <9502271906.AA1593@smtp.UB.com> Received: from UB with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 378141CE7AE1228A852561700068CC6A; Mon, 27 Feb 95 11:06:32 To: tp750 From: Ken Yee/UB Networks Date: 27 Feb 95 14:04:47 EDT Subject: IBM READY WITH TWO INNOVATIVE THINKPAD MODELS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain To: cc: (bcc: Tandem 2nd Class Mail) From: nobody @ tandem.com @ SMTP Date: 02/27/95 08:03:22 PM Subject: IBM READY WITH TWO INNOVATIVE THINKPAD MODELS IBM Corp's increasingly embattled Personal Computer Co hits back at its critics next month with a couple of new product lines it hopes will get it back into the game. The announcement will include new Thinkpads and new multiprocessor servers. The new ThinkPad 701C or butterfly is attracting some attention because it has a keyboard that opens up to full size when the machine is opened, and the design enables it to accommodate a larger screen as well. The 710C tucks an 11.5" wide keyboard into a machine that is only 9.6" wide, the trick, according to Dow Jones & Co being that when the lid is lifted, a series of levers and arms slide the left half of the keyboard to the left and the right half down and to the right until they fit together. According to PC Week, it weighs 4.3 lbs, measures 9.6" by 7.8" by 1.6" and the screen is thin-film-transistor active-matrix; a 701Cs variant has a dual-scan display. The base model is expected to cost $3,400 with 50MHz 80486DX2, 4Mb and 360Mb disk, dual-scan display and nickel-metal hydride battery, sources said. A $6,000 high-end model has 75MHz 80486DX4 processor, the active matrix screen and 24Mb memory. Both versions are said to have 115Kbps infrared port, a telephony board with speaker-phone capabilities, a 3.5" external floppy drive and two PCMCIA Type 2 slots - and IBM is planning PCMCIA cellular modems for the new machines. Attachments: None From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 14:35:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23589; Mon, 27 Feb 95 14:35:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23986; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:11:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:11:07 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23969; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:11:05 -0500 From: Received: from MILANESE.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA16484; Mon, 27 Feb 95 14:11:01 EST Received: by milanese.MIT.EDU (5.57/4.7) id AA09601; Mon, 27 Feb 95 14:10:59 -0500 Message-Id: <9502271910.AA09601@milanese.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Wanted : Dock I Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:10:56 EST If you have one for sale or know of a cheap place to buy one, please send me some email. Bill Daughton -------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 15:30:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26676; Mon, 27 Feb 95 15:30:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27777; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:06:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:06:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27750; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:06:03 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA03931; Mon, 27 Feb 95 12:05:28 PST Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA24830; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 12:04:39 -0800 Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA13199; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 12:04:40 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA22424; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 12:04:53 -0800 Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 12:04:53 -0800 From: cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9502272004.AA22424@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, Ken_Yee@UB.com Subject: Re: IBM READY WITH TWO INNOVATIVE THINKPAD MODELS X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII There is a picture of the butterfly in this months PC Computing (its on the cover, lower right. The cover is designed to look like it is being opened and the picture of the butterfly is on the next page, this is a pun on the story which is a "sneak preview") They compare it to the Toshiba 1900CT and give it high marks. --Chuck From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 15:30:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26682; Mon, 27 Feb 95 15:30:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28174; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:11:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:11:07 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28164; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:11:03 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA13021; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:10:56 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:11:32 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <54694.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Linux/X-Windows on a 755ce Speaking of which, how stable is X-windows under Linux? Has anyone got it working with a PCMCIA network card (specifically IBM's)? ______________________________________________________________________ |\ _____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Um ... no." -- Outfielder Darryl Strawberry's | | | jokim@mit.edu hesitant reply when asked by a judge if he | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu had taken drugs in the past few days. | \|______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 16:03:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28389; Mon, 27 Feb 95 16:03:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00609; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:45:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:45:07 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from apprentice.qualcomm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00593; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:45:05 -0500 Received: from gjacobs (gjacobs.qualcomm.com [129.46.122.39]) by apprentice.qualcomm.com (8.6.9/QC-BSD-2.5) with SMTP id MAA22567; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 12:44:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199502272044.MAA22567@apprentice.qualcomm.com> X-Sender: gjacobs@129.46.50.10 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1a4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 12:44:23 -0800 To: wyman@netcom.com (Wyman Chong), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: gjacobs@qualcomm.com (Gary E. Jacobs) Subject: Re: Mwave on a system with more than 16MB. >Hi, > I heard that the DSP will not work a a TP755CE with more than 16MB. >Is this true? If so, are there any workarounds? > >Thanks. > Not true! Mine has 28MB and DSP works fine. Gary Jacobs gjacobs@qualcomm.com (619)658-4069 voice (619)658-2120 fax From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 18:31:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10751; Mon, 27 Feb 95 18:31:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10715; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 18:06:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 18:06:47 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alpha.xerox.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10705; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 18:06:45 -0500 Received: from algonquin ([13.2.17.149]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14446(6)>; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:06:02 PST X-Sender: mdixon@kanga X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: mdixon@parc.xerox.com (Mike Dixon) Subject: driver for larger virtual screen? Message-Id: <95Feb27.150602pst."14446(6)"@alpha.xerox.com> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:06:02 PST to help compensate for my laptop's small screen, i'd like some kind of "virtual screen" software (i.e. pretend the screen is, say, 2000x2000, and let me quickly change which part of it is actually being displayed at any given time). i've used packages that did this on other OSs (e.g. olvwm under unix/X), and i once played with some other laptop (i think it was a panasonic) that seemed to provide this as part of the windows video device driver. is there any way to get this capability on my thinkpad? .mike. From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 19:27:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13378; Mon, 27 Feb 95 19:27:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13872; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 18:58:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 18:58:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13862; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 18:58:32 -0500 Received: from dec3300.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA12297; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 16:52:44 -0700 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by dec3300.cuug.ab.ca (5.65//ident-1.0) id AA00224; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 16:55:09 -0700 Message-Id: <9502272355.AA00224@dec3300.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: Linux/X-Windows on a 755ce To: jokim@mit.edu Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 16:55:09 -0700 (MST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <54694.jokim@mit.edu> from "John H. Kim" at Feb 27, 95 03:11:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Speaking of which, how stable is X-windows under Linux? Has anyone got it > working with a PCMCIA network card (specifically IBM's)? > ______________________________________________________________________ > |\ _____________________________________________________________________\ > | | | > | | John H. Kim "Um ... no." -- Outfielder Darryl Strawberry's | > | | jokim@mit.edu hesitant reply when asked by a judge if he | > | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu had taken drugs in the past few days. | > \|______________________________________________________________________| > I have a Thinkpad 360CSE working with Linux and X-Windows. It is very stable. I also have a GVC Ethernet card and a GVC modem card. I have used the ethernet card tons and it works great. The modem I just recently purchased so can't say much yet. I *think* the IBM ethernet card is supported by Linux. Linux on a Thinkpad does require some extra work but its not too hard. The WWW server http://peipa.essex.ac.uk explains things fairly well. I have also had a Thinkpad 750 working and will soon be getting a 755CE that I will be setting up. +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 20:20:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15465; Mon, 27 Feb 95 20:20:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18057; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 20:01:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 20:01:32 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from infi.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18044; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 20:01:31 -0500 Received: by infi.net (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0rjGKE-0000ArC; Mon, 27 Feb 95 20:02 EST Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 20:02:06 -0500 (EST) From: James Biggerstaff Subject: TP Hard Disk Vendor?? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I received a copy of "PC Catalog" several days ago, and the following ad was contained therein. I have NO connection with this company and HAVE NOT dealt with them. I would not ordinarily post any ad in any newsgroup or mailing list, but there has been a lot of traffic on this list and in the laptop newsgroup asking about sources for HD upgrades so I thought this might be of some general interest. Vendors _do_ appea r to be scarce. I want to upgrade my own TP 360C's drive, but not near term, so I do not intend to call these folks at this time. (I have a gut feeling that notebook drives are about to drop sharply in price so now may not be the time to buy). Many of us would, I suspect, be very interested to hear of anybody's experience with this firm. ****Propaganda Begins**** NOTEBOOK HARD DRIVE UPGRADES!! Upgrade your internal hard drive yourself & SAVE. We tell you how to check your notebook for available drive type selections, then you can install as large a hard drive as available. Even if your BIOS doesn't go as large as you want, we have software to go around it! IBM Thinkpad, Toshiba, NEC, and other folks take heart, you too can upgrade! 260MB/$299 353MB/$389 528MB/$499 710MB/$699 810MB/$799 IBM Travelstar Drives - 540MB/$599 720MB/$819 Use our EXTERNAL Parallel Cabinets or our INTERNAL Conversion kits to make the BEST use of your smaller capacity 2.5-inchers. No need for hard drive paperweights! We also carry a full line of MicroSolutions backpack peripherals - CD-ROMS, Tapes, et al. PCMCIA hard drives and communication/networking devices are available. {SNIP PUFFERY about how smart and friendly they are} Phone: 800-544-4252 (619)632-8621 Fax (619) 753-6133 MICRO-SENSE, INC. 370 Andrew Ave, Leucadia, CA 92024-1130 A small woman owned company ****Propoganda Ends**** Again, I have _no_ connection with this company - they might take your money and abscond with it, send you a Coleco Adam drive, or whatever. YMMV, don't spit into the wind, etc. But small women deserve our support. Jim Biggerstaff jimb@infi.net Norfolk, Virginia, USA ======================================================================== These profound insights are NOT freeware. If found useful, please send money within 30 days. ======================================================================== From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 21:17:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18904; Mon, 27 Feb 95 21:17:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA21557; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 21:02:19 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 21:02:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from luyou by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA21537; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 21:02:04 -0500 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by luyou (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA16695; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 09:58:22 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199502280158.JAA16695@luyou> Subject: Re: driver for larger virtual screen? To: mdixon@parc.xerox.com (Mike Dixon) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 09:58:22 +0800 (WAUST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <95Feb27.150602pst."14446(6)"@alpha.xerox.com> from "Mike Dixon" at Feb 27, 95 03:06:02 pm Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text ``..Mike Dixon writes, ` From: mdixon@parc.xerox.com (Mike Dixon) ` Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:06:02 PST ` ` to help compensate for my laptop's small screen, i'd like some kind ` of "virtual screen" software (i.e. pretend the screen is, say, 2000x2000, ` and let me quickly change which part of it is actually being displayed ` at any given time). ` i've used packages that did this on other OSs (e.g. olvwm under unix/X), olvwm must be a hog on the X-machine! I'm currently using tvtwm on an AIX 3.2.5 and it's heaps faster, - some window functionality. ` and i once played with some other laptop (i think it was a panasonic) that ` seemed to provide this as part of the windows video device driver. What type of virtual screens manager did they have? ` is there any way to get this capability on my thinkpad? There are a few around. WideAngle made it big with their virtual screens. Works in Windows and Win/OS2. It was not a front-end to Windows (like Norton Desktop). Just load Windows and click on the icon. An icon grid (user configurable) of say 9 squares appeared on the bottom of the screen. Each "pigeon hole" is a virtual screen. It is a commercial product. There is also an equivalent OS/2 shareware verison called "9lives" or something. Look through the archives and search for "virtual". I did see two or three sharewares for virtual windows. However none of the virtual screen window managers I've seen emulates tvtwm/X. A small window at the bottom of the screen with a panner. Moving the panner in this window moves the viewable screen to another screen estate. This small window represents the entire (virtual) screen. Then again, you could install Linux+X on the TP and run tvtwm.. if I had more disk space ): Cheers. ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Feb 28 08:24:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25558; Tue, 28 Feb 95 08:24:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27657; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 08:09:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 08:09:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from werple.mira.net.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27643; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 08:09:40 -0500 Received: (from guardian@localhost) by werple.mira.net.au (8.6.10/8.6.9) id AAA00292; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 00:09:16 +1100 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 00:07:15 +1100 (EST) From: Nick Allan Subject: 4mb dram for 750 To: thinkpad mailinglist Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all It seems its really hard to get 4mb dram cards for the thinkpad 750 in Australia. Can anyone suggest a mail order company that seels them. The only one I know of is sparco and the memory there seems quite expensive. Are there any others that sell 4mb dram for the tp750? Thanks for any help in advance. Please if possible a non 1-800 number would be best. I can't dial 1-800 >from australia. Regards Nick Guardian@werple.mira.net.au From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Feb 28 10:56:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03899; Tue, 28 Feb 95 10:56:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06345; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 10:45:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 10:45:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom18.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06325; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 10:45:23 -0500 From: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id HAA19407; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 07:45:05 -0800 Message-Id: <199502281545.HAA19407@netcom18.netcom.com> Subject: Question on RAM disk and OS/2 on TP750c... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 07:45:04 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all! Getting my 32 mb upgrade on Thurs :). I was wondering...is it possible to set up a 22 mb RAM disk under OS/2, stack that w/ stacker, then point my virtual memory swapper to that, effectively stacking my RAM? A program on the Mac, RAM doubler seems to do a similar thing... From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Feb 28 11:45:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06933; Tue, 28 Feb 95 11:45:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09772; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 11:33:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 11:33:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom23.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09758; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 11:33:06 -0500 Received: from dummy.host by netcom23.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id IAA20665; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 08:32:45 -0800 Message-Id: <199502281632.IAA20665@netcom23.netcom.com> X-Sender: dvchan@netcom22.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 11:32:42 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dvchan@netcom.com (Derek V. Chan) Subject: Need old messages...Eudora wiped my mailbox! X-Mailer: Hi! My TP750 mailbox got corrupted in Eudora :(. Does anyone have an archive of the mailing list messages? (I heard there's an ftp site somewhere...) Thanks Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Feb 28 13:13:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13328; Tue, 28 Feb 95 13:13:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16072; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 12:54:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 12:54:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16055; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 12:54:23 -0500 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA13157; Tue, 28 Feb 95 10:53:48 MST Date: Tue, 28 Feb 95 10:53:48 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9502281753.AA13157@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: OS/2: FIx Pak XR0W005 For those of you feeling brave, IBM has just made available a "Fix Pak" for OS/2 Warp 3.0. This is apparently a "mini-CSD" which includes fixes for 50 different APAR's. (A specific APAR list is provided as part of the package). Here is what you need and where you can get it: ftp ftp.pcco.ibm.com /pub/corrective_service wfp_05.zip 3391942 02/27/95 OS/2 Warp3.0 FixPack (50 APAR fixes) warpbdsk.1dk 1466960 01-24-95 disk 1 for installing Warp Fixpacks warpbdsk.2dk 1373760 01-24-95 disk 2 for installing warp fixpacks Regards, _________________________________________________________________ Karl E. Yeanoplos | kyeanopl@den.mmc.com Martin Marietta Corp. | P.O. Box 179/M.S. 5451 | Denver, CO. 80201 | key@csn.net From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Feb 28 15:03:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18972; Tue, 28 Feb 95 15:03:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24101; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 14:26:25 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 14:26:23 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24085; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 14:26:19 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA04162; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 13:26:12 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 14:26:46 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <52006.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Question on RAM disk and OS/2 on TP750c... In message Tue, 28 Feb 1995 07:45:04 -0800 (PST), writes: > Hi all! Getting my 32 mb upgrade on Thurs :). I was wondering...is it > possible to set up a 22 mb RAM disk under OS/2, stack that w/ stacker, > then point my virtual memory swapper to that, effectively stacking my > RAM? A program on the Mac, RAM doubler seems to do a similar thing... RAM doubler on the Mac works because the Macs use a really strange (many would say stupid) memory allocation method. When you start a Mac app, it grabs as much memory as you've set it to (via info, command-i). It doesn't matter if the app only needs 1MB, if you've set it for 10MB because it might need 10MB some time, it'll grab 10MB. RAM doubler takes back the unused portion of allocated memory, "fixing" a problem that doesn't exist under OS/2. The maximum size ramdisk OS/2 allows is 32MB. I don't know if you can point the swapper to it, I don't know if you can get Stacker to stack it, I don't know if it'll help or hurt performance. - John who's gotten too many "out of memory" errors on a 16MB Quadra. ______________________________________________________________________ |\ _____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Um ... no." -- Outfielder Darryl Strawberry's | | | jokim@mit.edu hesitant reply when asked by a judge if he | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu had taken drugs in the past few days. | \|______________________________________________________________________| From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Feb 28 16:51:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26124; Tue, 28 Feb 95 16:51:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05857; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 16:29:07 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 16:29:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05847; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 16:29:02 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id QAA07490; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 16:32:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 16:32:10 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Cc: Mike Dixon , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: driver for larger virtual screen? In-Reply-To: <199502280158.JAA16695@luyou> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 28 Feb 1995, Kevin Cheong wrote: > There are a few around. WideAngle made it big with their virtual screens. > Works in Windows and Win/OS2. It was not a front-end to Windows (like > Norton Desktop). Just load Windows and click on the icon. An icon grid > (user configurable) of say 9 squares appeared on the bottom of the > screen. Each "pigeon hole" is a virtual screen. It is a commercial > product. Word of warning - some of these don't co-exist with things like Norton Desktop well - ND, for example, puts things on the background and the viirtual screen gadgets duplicate that background. Makes for funny looking screens. From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Feb 28 21:09:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16937; Tue, 28 Feb 95 21:09:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18298; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 18:58:20 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 18:58:18 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from einstein.technet.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18282; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 18:58:09 -0500 Received: (from nelson@localhost) by einstein.technet.sg (8.6.10/8.6.9) id HAA13236 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 07:57:58 +0800 From: Nelson Chan Chee-Kian Message-Id: <199502282357.HAA13236@einstein.technet.sg> Subject: Intelligent Battery Pack To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 07:57:57 +0800 (SST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I want to purchase an itelligent battery pack for my TP 755CE but my local IBM reseller says that IBM only sells the ordinary NiMH battery pack. I wonder if any of you kind folks out there can point me to the part number for the intelligent battery pack. I've checked www.pcco.ibm.com and I cannot locate the information. regards, Nelson Chan here in sunny Singapore