From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 1 10:15:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16231; Sat, 1 Apr 95 10:15:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01113; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01092; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:50 -0500 Received: from poncho-slip12.cis.brown.edu (poncho-slip12.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.49]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA24500; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:14:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199504011414.JAA24500@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 01 Apr 1995 09:12:16 -0500 To: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen), nu@mfltd.co.uk (Nigel Uprichard) From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Re: Upgrading to OS2 Warp Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) At 08:45 AM 3/29/95 -0600, Scott Stratmoen wrote: >- Crystal Semi driver refused to keep YOUR hardware based volume > setting. > > This is fixed in csd1, but issues with the Dock II remain. The work > around is to turn the volume on the machine to zero when docked. >-- >Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com > | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) > To get the Crystal Semi driver to work, get the second FixPak. Insert the third disk, open a OS/2 window, type unpack a:\fix\os2.1\cs4231.sy_ c:\mmos2 That will solve the problem. <<<<<<<<<< WAI-SHAN LAM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail to: <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OR <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<72124.2644@CompuServe.Com>>>>>>>>> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 1 10:15:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16232; Sat, 1 Apr 95 10:15:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01099; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:51 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:49 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01080; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:47 -0500 Received: from poncho-slip12.cis.brown.edu (poncho-slip12.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.49]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA24497; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:14:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199504011414.JAA24497@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 01 Apr 1995 09:12:11 -0500 To: nu@mfltd.co.uk (Nigel Uprichard), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Re: Upgrading to OS2 Warp At 01:25 PM 3/29/95 GMT, Nigel Uprichard wrote: > >I am thinking of upgrading from OS2 2.1 to OS2 Warp. I have heard that >there were problems with Warp on Thinkpads (I have a 755C) when it was >released. > >Some of the problems that I have heard about are: > >1) Warp & Power on passwords dont work correctly >2) Screen corruption > >Can anyone who is using WARP tell me how they are getting on with it. > >Thanks. > >-- >Nigel Uprichard >Ext. 5389 >Testware Development >Email : nu@mfltd.co.uk >IBMMAIL : GBHFFZLJ > Warp works fine on Thinkpad (I have a 750C)...but make sure you get the SECOND FixPak. My experience told me that after 'servicing' your OS with this FixPak, the audio driver STILL DOES NOT work properly. you have to manually unpack the driver. to do this, try the following: Inset the THIRD FixPak disk into your TP. open an OS/2 window, and type unpack a:\fix\os2.1\cs4231.sy_ c:\mmos2 That should solved the problem. Also, no passwork or suspend problem. Go ahead with Warp. <<<<<<<<<< WAI-SHAN LAM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail to: <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OR <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<72124.2644@CompuServe.Com>>>>>>>>> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 1 10:15:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16241; Sat, 1 Apr 95 10:15:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01123; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01103; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:51 -0500 Received: from poncho-slip12.cis.brown.edu (poncho-slip12.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.49]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA24494; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:14:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199504011414.JAA24494@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 01 Apr 1995 09:12:06 -0500 To: , FADGENG@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, MCHENRY@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month At 11:18 AM 3/28/95 -0500, CAHILLRE@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU wrote: >InfoWorld At Deadline 3/27/95 >"" IBM late next month will upgrade its ThinkPad line with a model offering >a 10.4 inch 600-by-800 resolution active matrix screen, 75-MHz Pentium >processor, and Lithium-ion Battery, said sources close to the company. >The 755CX will cost the same as the 755ce, which has a list price of >$7,499 and a $5,936 average street price. The 755C, 755CE, and 755CD >models will be discontinued when the 755CX ships, the sources said. >the company also will offer a $1,449 Pentium upgrade to owners of the >other ThinkPad 75 models when the 755CX ships. "" > > Any idea if it is using PCI bus or not? <<<<<<<<<< WAI-SHAN LAM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail to: <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OR <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<72124.2644@CompuServe.Com>>>>>>>>> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 1 10:16:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16245; Sat, 1 Apr 95 10:16:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01104; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:52 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:50 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01082; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:48 -0500 Received: from poncho-slip12.cis.brown.edu (poncho-slip12.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.49]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA24491; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:14:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199504011414.JAA24491@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 01 Apr 1995 09:12:00 -0500 To: weng hui , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Re: RAM Upgrade for TP750 At 09:19 AM 3/28/95 -0500, weng hui wrote: > >Hi > >I'm new to the list. Have been using a Thinkpad 750Cs with 4MB RAM and >340MB HD for almost a year. > >Would like to know if anyone has upgraded with a RAM module from non-IBM >suppliers. If so, are there any problems that one should take note of ? > >The price difference between IBM and a mail-order company I've contacted >for a 8MB upgrade is about $100.00. >Would appreciate suggestions for reliable mail order companies and also >whether a 16MB upgrade would be better. > > Thanks > > Weng > > I also have a 750C for about a yr now. I added 16 MB of RAM when I first bought it. I got it from a non-IBM dealer, but can't recall exactly which one. What I want to tell you is that, my friend bought a 8MB RAM module >from LA Trade, and has caused some major incompatibility. LA Trade offers really low prices, but they might not be 100% compatible. From what I hear >from most people, Kingston seems to be highly recommended. Hope this helps. <<<<<<<<<< WAI-SHAN LAM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail to: <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OR <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<72124.2644@CompuServe.Com>>>>>>>>> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 1 10:31:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18304; Sat, 1 Apr 95 10:31:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02893; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 10:22:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 10:22:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02873; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 10:22:11 -0500 Received: from ppp229.basegrp.com (ppp229.basegrp.com [204.248.92.229]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA28378; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 06:37:59 -0600 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 06:37:59 -0600 Message-Id: <199504011237.GAA28378@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basegrp.com (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: Supervisor password. At 05:16 PM 3/31/95 EST, rjking@fosters.roc.servtech.com wrote: >In reply to: >> >>>Hello all, >>>Does anyone know if the supervisor password is available on the >TP360's? >>>I haven't gotten one yet, but the company I work for is getting them. >I >>>just want to know if they can be set up, and if it is part of the >>>EZsetup stuff. Anyone know? >>> >>>Thanks, >>>Randall >>>rjking@fosters.roc.servtech.com >>> >>> >>> >>Yes it does. > >Now I mean the Supervisor password. Not the plain-jane start-up >passwords. The old 700's had 2 power-on's. The personal one, and one >for the supervisors. I am looking for the one that they can set up once >for the whole set to 'fix' the machines when the users forget their >personal passwords. :) > My understanding is that the 360 acts just like the 750's as far as password protection. You access Easy Setup the same way (alt+F1 at power on) and have all of the same functions. I will verify that and if I find something different, I'll get back to you. For those of you that may have placed my old address in your nicknmae file, please note that I have changed providers. OLD:incomm@ibm.net NEW:krisdw@basenet.net |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 1 19:34:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13931; Sat, 1 Apr 95 19:34:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00575; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 19:24:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 19:24:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00565; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 19:24:11 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA04803 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Sat, 1 Apr 1995 19:24:01 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 19:22:02 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: Randall King Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Supervisor password. In-Reply-To: <9503311716.AA20932@fosters.roc.servtech.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 31 Mar 1995, Randall King wrote: > Now I mean the Supervisor password. Not the plain-jane start-up > passwords. The old 700's had 2 power-on's. The personal one, and one > for the supervisors. I am looking for the one that they can set up once > for the whole set to 'fix' the machines when the users forget their > personal passwords. :) The supervisor password is for getting access to the setup, the regular power on password, if forgotten, can be erased by a simple hardware method which does not require you to know the supervisor password. There is no override for the supervisor password or the Hard disk password if those are forgotten. Josh Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 1 23:34:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22775; Sat, 1 Apr 95 23:34:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12250; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 23:23:16 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 23:23:14 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12240; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 23:23:12 -0500 Received: from ppp227.basegrp.com (ppp227.basegrp.com [204.248.92.227]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA10329 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 22:22:03 -0600 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 22:22:03 -0600 Message-Id: <199504020422.WAA10329@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basegrp.com (Kris D. Williams) Subject: 360 supervisor password I did a little research on the 360 password and found the following according to the user's guide. As I said earlier, you access the password via Easy Setup just like the 75X BUT, you only have POWER-ON AND HDD - there is NO SUPERVISOR. Hope I didn't confuse anybody earlier. |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 06:19:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16127; Sun, 2 Apr 95 06:19:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07069; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 06:10:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 06:10:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07054; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 06:10:15 -0400 Received: from DialupEudora (ts1.noc.drexel.edu [129.25.12.13]) by dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (8.6.11/8.6.4) with SMTP id GAA03592 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 06:10:03 -0400 X-Sender: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 05:21:27 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Mark Bell) Subject: Certified/working Ethernet cards for 755C What is a list of the Ethernet cards out there that have worked with minimal ease on the TP 755C? I see 3Com is selling their Etherlink III PCMCIA card at a special promo price of $99. What does IBM say will work? Personal experiences? Thanks. .....That's right, No friggin' sig!........ * Mark Bell * 800 College Drive #104 * Vineland, NJ 08360 * 1-609-327-4029 * From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 11:19:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25246; Sun, 2 Apr 95 11:19:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20698; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:07:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:07:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20672; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:07:15 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA24169; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 08:07:12 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA28817; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 08:07:11 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504021507.IAA28817@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Certified/working Ethernet cards for 755C To: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Mark Bell) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 08:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Mark Bell" at Apr 2, 95 05:21:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > What is a list of the Ethernet cards out there that have worked with > minimal ease on the TP 755C? I see 3Com is selling their Etherlink III > PCMCIA card at a special promo price of $99. What does IBM say will work? > Personal experiences? Thanks. From personal experience, I can tell you it works just fine (in a 750C anyway--I'm quite certain that there is little difference). Funny though--I bought it at this "special promo price" something like 6 to 9 months ago. Pretty long "promotion", eh?! Relatively fast little bugger too, if you can believe the 3Com propaganda that comes with it. :) Just one caveat--it works using "point enabler" software which can conflict with your normal PCMCIA socket services driver (if you need it for another card in another slot at the same time). Also, one person on the list (whose name escapes me--sorry!) was disappointed to find that the 3Com card would not work in the PCMCIA capable IBM port replicator unit. I believe he informed IBM of this problem and they came up with a fix of some kind. I'll leave it to him to tell about the details again. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 12:04:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00437; Sun, 2 Apr 95 12:04:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23427; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:56:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:56:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23417; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:56:00 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144040>; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:55:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: Wai-Shan Lam's message as of Apr 1, 10:19am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month Message-Id: <95Apr2.115549edt.144040@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:55:48 -0400 At 11:18 AM 3/28/95 -0500, CAHILLRE@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU wrote: >InfoWorld At Deadline 3/27/95 >"" IBM late next month will upgrade its ThinkPad line with a model offering >a 10.4 inch 600-by-800 resolution active matrix screen, 75-MHz Pentium >processor, and Lithium-ion Battery, said sources close to the company. >The 755CX will cost the same as the 755ce, which has a list price of >$7,499 and a $5,936 average street price. The 755C, 755CE, and 755CD >models will be discontinued when the 755CX ships, the sources said. >the company also will offer a $1,449 Pentium upgrade to owners of the >other ThinkPad 75 models when the 755CX ships. "" Was a shipping date suggested for the CX? Given IBM's shoddy behaviour regarding the 755CD product, I will henceforth disbelieve anything I hear >from IBM until they produce it in quantity. On a more technical note, does the higher density display go back to 8-bit colour? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 12:37:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08059; Sun, 2 Apr 95 12:37:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25373; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 12:28:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 12:28:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25327; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 12:28:54 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rvSWX-0004trC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 11:29 CDT Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rvSWV-0002nbC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 11:29 CDT Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rvSWU-000BgzC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 11:29 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Upgrading to OS2 Warp To: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:29:10 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <199504011414.JAA24500@dark.brown.edu> from "Wai-Shan Lam" at Apr 1, 95 09:12:16 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > To get the Crystal Semi driver to work, get the second FixPak. Insert the > third disk, open a OS/2 window, type > > unpack a:\fix\os2.1\cs4231.sy_ c:\mmos2 > > That will solve the problem. Sorry. The driver should disable the internal sound when docked. CSD1 didn't resolve this problem. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 14:35:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26650; Sun, 2 Apr 95 14:35:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00942; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 14:28:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 14:28:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00932; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 14:28:45 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.36] (mac36.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA03345; Sun, 2 Apr 95 14:28:39 EDT Message-Id: <9504021828.AA03345@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 14:36:08 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: Certified/working Ethernet cards for 755C >> What is a list of the Ethernet cards out there that have worked with >> minimal ease on the TP 755C? I see 3Com is selling their Etherlink III >> PCMCIA card at a special promo price of $99. What does IBM say will work? >> Personal experiences? Thanks. > > From personal experience, I can tell you it works just fine >(in a 750C anyway--I'm quite certain that there is little difference). >Funny though--I bought it at this "special promo price" something like >6 to 9 months ago. Pretty long "promotion", eh?! People were discussing this promo price on the list since just after the card first came out! I was foolish enough to pay list. > Just one caveat--it works using "point enabler" software which can >conflict with your normal PCMCIA socket services driver (if you need it for >another card in another slot at the same time). I don't know about the latest drivers, but with the original drivers this could be worked around through extra software (using valuable memory) and careful allocation of memory. It's plug-n-play under Warp. I'm not sure, but I think they may have finally adopted card services under windows as well. The Warp driver hangs on boot if the card isn't in place. This is annoying, but tolerable. They claim to be working on a solution. Judging from messages on this list, it seems like people have been having good luck with IBM cards under both windows and OS2. > > Also, one person on the list (whose name escapes me--sorry!) >was disappointed to find that the 3Com card would not work in the PCMCIA >capable IBM port replicator unit. I believe he informed IBM of this >problem and they came up with a fix of some kind. I'll leave it to >him to tell about the details again. There is an upgraded driver, denoted on the 3com bulletin board with an 'n'. I would suspect that they include this with cards the're shipping now. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 14:37:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26659; Sun, 2 Apr 95 14:37:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01143; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 14:32:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 14:32:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01133; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 14:32:40 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA28371 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 2 Apr 1995 13:32:23 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199504021832.AA28371@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: 3Com Ethernet card To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 13:32:36 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199504021507.IAA28817@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Apr 2, 95 08:07:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > minimal ease on the TP 755C? I see 3Com is selling their Etherlink III > > PCMCIA card at a special promo price of $99. What does IBM say will work? > > Personal experiences? Thanks. > > From personal experience, I can tell you it works just fine On a related note, did anyone manage to get the 3Com card to work under OS/2? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 22:21:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13649; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:21:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25455; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 22:10:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 22:10:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25440; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 22:10:36 -0400 Received: from DialupEudora (ts1.noc.drexel.edu [129.25.12.13]) by dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (8.6.11/8.6.4) with SMTP id WAA28424; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 22:10:17 -0400 X-Sender: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 21:21:43 -0500 To: Randal Whittle From: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Mark Bell) Subject: Re: Certified/working Ethernet cards for 755C Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU >> What is a list of the Ethernet cards out there that have worked with >> minimal ease on the TP 755C? I see 3Com is selling their Etherlink III >> PCMCIA card at a special promo price of $99. What does IBM say will work? >> Personal experiences? Thanks. > > From personal experience, I can tell you it works just fine >(in a 750C anyway--I'm quite certain that there is little difference). >Funny though--I bought it at this "special promo price" something like >6 to 9 months ago. Pretty long "promotion", eh?! > > Relatively fast little bugger too, if you can believe the 3Com >propaganda that comes with it. :) > > Just one caveat--it works using "point enabler" software which can >conflict with your normal PCMCIA socket services driver (if you need it for >another card in another slot at the same time). > I guess this would narrow my criteria even more. Currently, my 755C has a Megahertz PCMCIA Xjack Modem installed in slot one. Any other card that would be a possible candidate would have to work with the 755C's card services. It would be nice to find a card that installs as easy and seamlessly as the Megahertz Xjack did. Do you or anyone else out there have any suggestions? The card would be primarily used under WfWG 3.11. .....That's right, No friggin' sig!........ * Mark Bell * 800 College Drive #104 * Vineland, NJ 08360 * 1-609-327-4029 * From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 23:12:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21271; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:12:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29331; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:02:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:02:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29306; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:02:29 -0400 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA04200; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:02:03 -0400 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199504030302.XAA04200@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: Certified/working Ethernet cards for 755C To: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Mark Bell) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: from "Mark Bell" at Apr 2, 95 09:21:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Just one caveat--it works using "point enabler" software which can > >conflict with your normal PCMCIA socket services driver (if you need it for > >another card in another slot at the same time). > > I guess this would narrow my criteria even more. Currently, my 755C has a > Megahertz PCMCIA Xjack Modem installed in slot one. Any other card that > would be a possible candidate would have to work with the 755C's card > services. It would be nice to find a card that installs as easy and > seamlessly as the Megahertz Xjack did. Do you or anyone else out there have > any suggestions? The card would be primarily used under WfWG 3.11. Recent versions of the 3C589 drivers don't require a point enabler. I'm running WfW 3.11 with Beame & Whiteside's TCPIP/NFS product, and the 3C589 NDIS driver works fine with card services. [ I've also gotten the card to work with Warp and TCP/IP 2.0, but I can't seem to get LanMan Client 2.2b for OS/2 to work. ] From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 23:22:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21995; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:22:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00428; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:15:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:15:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from america.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00418; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:15:31 -0400 Received: from tactical.ppp.america.com by america.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA08272; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:14:08 +0500 Message-Id: <9504030314.AA08272@america.com> X-Sender: richh@america.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 02 Apr 1995 23:14:50 -0400 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: rrh@@CS.UTK.EDU (Richard Holtz) Subject: 755CE and QEMM We are using a 755CE and trying to install QEMM 7.5 We keep getting a APM failure. We would appreciate the QEMM line and other setup info. We prefer not using stealth. Note we are using Dock II. We are also looking for a file vesa.exe which appears to be in a imbvesa subdirectory which we do not have. We would appreciate any help in re-creating that sub-directory or being steered to a URL site for it. Thank you in advance =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard Holtz RRH Associates Home Control [Automation] and Building Control Systems Consultants Tel: 904 676 2725 Cell FlipPhone: 904 679 4851 Fax: 904 676 0237 internet: rrh@america.com Compuserve: Used when in field 76507,2222 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 23:49:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25153; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:49:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01955; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:43:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:43:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01945; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:43:40 -0400 Received: from by (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA10013; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:51:41 +0900 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:51:41 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199504030351.MAA10013@Pion> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, rrh@@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755CE and QEMM I have been experience a problem with my 755C and a Dock II using Windows. It seems the driver "vpowerd" does not work in this environment for me. I am also using QEMM 7.5, but did not think to try removing it yet. The machine also seems to not recognize that I have the PNP BIOS installed. Is the latest version 13? Thanks. -Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 04:53:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12669; Mon, 3 Apr 95 04:53:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA21380; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 04:43:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 04:43:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA21369; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 04:43:16 -0400 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id aa01103; 3 Apr 95 9:42 GMT-60:00 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id ab05736; 3 Apr 95 9:42 GMT-60:00 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrading to OS2 Warp Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 9:34:49 BST Message-Id: <9504030934.aa23488@hipass.filct.com> Warp works fine on Thinkpad (I have a 750C)...but make sure you get the SECOND FixPak. My experience told me that after 'servicing' your OS with Does anyone know if the xr0w005 fixpack is US only? I have a UK Warp, and the pack said there was nothing to service (and yes, I checked for the files mentioned in the README :-) Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 07:46:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09111; Mon, 3 Apr 95 07:46:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05750; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 07:36:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 07:36:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05739; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 07:36:22 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id HAA10364; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 07:39:56 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 07:39:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Tim Tyhurst Cc: TP750 Mailing List Subject: Re: Certified/working Ethernet cards for 755C In-Reply-To: <199504030302.XAA04200@dogmead.excelsior.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 2 Apr 1995, Tim Tyhurst wrote: > I'm running WfW 3.11 with Beame & Whiteside's TCPIP/NFS product, Do you know, I have written them and said I think I deserve a free copy of their product, but they seem not to agree. Be different if Beame didn't have _his_ name first, I'm sure.... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 10:52:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10781; Mon, 3 Apr 95 10:52:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18106; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 10:41:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 10:41:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18088; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 10:41:39 -0400 Message-Id: <199504031441.KAA18088@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5186; Mon, 03 Apr 95 10:41:38 EST Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU (NJE origin SHX@PSUVM) by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with RFC822 id 8100; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 10:41:37 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 10:41 EDT From: "Susan H. Xu" Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month To: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu Cc: CAHILLRE@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, FADGENG@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, MCHENRY@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Wai_Shan_Lam AT brown.edu -- Sat, 01 Apr 1995 09:12:06 -0500 >At 11:18 AM 3/28/95 -0500, CAHILLRE@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU wrote: >>InfoWorld At Deadline 3/27/95 >>"" IBM late next month will upgrade its ThinkPad line with a model offering >>a 10.4 inch 600-by-800 resolution active matrix screen, 75-MHz Pentium >>processor, and Lithium-ion Battery, said sources close to the company. >>The 755CX will cost the same as the 755ce, which has a list price of >>$7,499 and a $5,936 average street price. The 755C, 755CE, and 755CD >>models will be discontinued when the 755CX ships, the sources said. >>the company also will offer a $1,449 Pentium upgrade to owners of the >>other ThinkPad 75 models when the 755CX ships. "" >> I plan to purchase a TP 755C DX2 50MHz (haven't made the final decision yet). My understanding is that the machine is upgradable to DX4 75mhz. Does anyone know that can the Pentium chip upgrade a 755C DX2 50MHz machine? If not, can it upgrade the TP 755C DX4 75MHz? Any advise of buying either TP 755C DX2 or TP 755C DX4? Thanks for the help! -Susan From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 11:41:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16992; Mon, 3 Apr 95 11:41:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21933; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:27:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:27:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from qualcomm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21923; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:27:10 -0400 Received: from gjacobs (gjacobs.qualcomm.com [129.46.122.39]) by qualcomm.com (8.6.10/QC-MAIN-2.1) with SMTP id IAA18910 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 08:26:31 -0700 Message-Id: <199504031526.IAA18910@qualcomm.com> X-Sender: gjacobs@129.46.50.10 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 03 Apr 1995 08:26:39 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: gjacobs@qualcomm.com (Gary E. Jacobs) Subject: 755CE worldwide adapter and batteries I've tried IBM Direct and Power Express, both are out of stock for worldwide adapters and batteries for the 755CE. Any other sources I can try? Thanks, Gary Jacobs gjacobs@qualcomm.com Gary Jacobs gjacobs@qualcomm.com (619)658-4069 voice (619)658-2120 fax From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 12:14:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23405; Mon, 3 Apr 95 12:14:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24554; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:55:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:55:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24538; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:55:44 -0400 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HOWGKAWH9S002ZLL@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:55:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 1995 11:55:31 -0400 (EDT) From: billy@mix.com Subject: 755CE keyboard occasionally drops a char..? Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <796924531.946788.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: I've had a 755CE a couple weeks now and while overall it's extremely impressive every now and then it drops a char from those typed to it on its keyboard. This isn't 100% reproducable, but it is to some extent. It's almost as if the keyboard scan clock needs to be running a bit faster, or so it seems. This happens both in dos and windows and it doesn't matter what application software is running. Just wondering if anyone else has run into this, and more importantly, what it takes to fix it? I don't want to send it back to IBM unless that's really necessary. Thanks, Billy Y.. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 12:35:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26755; Mon, 3 Apr 95 12:35:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26654; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:22:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:22:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26638; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:22:26 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.36] (mac36.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA05117; Mon, 3 Apr 95 12:22:21 EDT Message-Id: <9504031622.AA05117@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:29:53 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month >>>InfoWorld At Deadline 3/27/95 >>>"" IBM late next month will upgrade its ThinkPad line with a model offering >>>a 10.4 inch 600-by-800 resolution active matrix screen, 75-MHz Pentium >>>processor, and Lithium-ion Battery, said sources close to the company. >>>The 755CX will cost the same as the 755ce, which has a list price of >>>$7,499 and a $5,936 average street price. The 755C, 755CE, and 755CD >>>models will be discontinued when the 755CX ships, the sources said. >>>the company also will offer a $1,449 Pentium upgrade to owners of the >>>other ThinkPad 75 models when the 755CX ships. "" >>> I'm wondering if the lithium-ion battery will work on older 750 series machines. If it will run a Pentium for a reasonable amount of time, it should run my 750 for days:). ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 12:47:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28153; Mon, 3 Apr 95 12:47:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27562; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:32:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:32:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mfmail.mfltd.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27547; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:32:32 -0400 From: Received: from ibm3172e.mfltd.co.uk by mfmail.mfltd.co.uk with SMTP (5.65/25-eef) id AA20596; Mon, 3 Apr 95 17:30:33 GMT Message-Id: <9504031730.AA20596@mfmail.mfltd.co.uk> Received: from NWB.RSCS by NWB.MFLTD.CO.UK (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7716; Mon, 03 Apr 95 17:32:17 GMT Date: Mon, 03 Apr 95 17:32:17 GMT To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Keyboard problems ======================================================================= From: D. Gwyn Jones Fileshare 2 development, Products Group. DGJ at NWB, GBHFFWHF at IBMMAIL, e-mail: dgj@mfltd.co.uk Subject: Re: Keyboard problems > I've had a 755CE a couple weeks now and while overall it's extremely > impressive every now and then it drops a char from those typed to it > on its keyboard. This isn't 100% reproducable, but it is to some > extent. It's almost as if the keyboard scan clock needs to be > running a bit faster, or so it seems. This happens both in dos and > windows and it doesn't matter what application software is running. I've always had a similar problem with my 755C. However, I'm convinced it only happens when using an external keyboard. I'm using one of IBM's little T-jack things which allows both an external mouse and keyboard to be plugged into the single socket next the PCMCIA card slot. I can't reproduce it at will, but I most definitely know when it's happened! Regards, Gwyn. Micro Focus Ltd Tel. (44) (0)1635 565294 26 West Street Fax. (44) (0)1635 565567 Extension 5294 Newbury RG13 1JT U.K. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 13:58:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10538; Mon, 3 Apr 95 13:58:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04083; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 13:43:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 13:43:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from research.att.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04069; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 13:43:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199504031743.NAA04069@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by research.att.com; Mon Apr 3 13:35 EDT 1995 Received: from argo.tempo.att.com.tempo.att.com by allegra.tempo.att.com; id AA23255; Mon, 3 Apr 95 13:35:26 EDT Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 13:35:30 EDT From: paul@research.att.com (Paul Krzyzanowski) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: drive letters for pcmcia cards Is it possible to specify some parameter to the pcmcia drivers to map pcmcia disks (or flash ram) to higher drive letters? IBM wasn't able to help me out with this. I've not used pcmcia flash ram until now and find that it displaces the mapping of my cd drive. Changing all drive references for the cd would be a real pain now. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 15:05:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24173; Mon, 3 Apr 95 15:05:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08954; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:50:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:50:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08942; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:49:53 -0400 Received: from ppp225.basegrp.com (ppp225.basegrp.com [204.248.92.225]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA25583 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 13:49:05 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 13:49:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199504031849.NAA25583@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basegrp.com (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: 755CE keyboard occasionally drops a char..? At 11:55 AM 4/3/95 -0400, billy@mix.com wrote: >I've had a 755CE a couple weeks now and while overall it's extremely >impressive every now and then it drops a char from those typed to it >on its keyboard. This isn't 100% reproducable, but it is to some >extent. It's almost as if the keyboard scan clock needs to be >running a bit faster, or so it seems. This happens both in dos and >windows and it doesn't matter what application software is running. > >Just wondering if anyone else has run into this, and more importantly, >what it takes to fix it? I don't want to send it back to IBM unless >that's really necessary. > >Thanks, > >Billy Y.. I occasionally have this problem also. It seems however that I have the worst problem with a particular key (the Shift key) I assumed it was because my pinky wasn't as strong or as fast as my other fingers. Now I wonder??? |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 16:58:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16810; Mon, 3 Apr 95 16:58:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17366; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 16:43:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 16:43:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17356; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 16:43:03 -0400 Received: from hp.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA34028; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 15:23:37 -0500 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.15//ident-1.0) id AA181260751; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:25:51 -0600 Message-Id: <199504032025.AA181260751@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: 755CD info To: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:25:50 -0600 (MDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199504031849.NAA25583@mtvernon1.basenet.net> from "Kris D. Williams" at Apr 3, 95 01:49:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a 755CD and would like to be able to fully use the CD-ROM drive >from Linux. I can access data CD's without any problems but I'm having trouble with audio CD's. When I use a program that starts them playing I can see the CD drive is active but no sound comes out the speakers or the headphone jack. Does anyone know how to get this working? Does anyone know someone technical at IBM I can talk to? I thought that maybe the audio output of the CD drive is going to the DSP chip and since Linux hasn't activated it, it doesn't do anything with the audio. If this is so, anyone know where/how to get more info on the DSP? I don't expect to get the full sound blaster compatability going in Linux (it would be nice though!!!! 8^) but I would like it just to be able to pass through the CD audio. Thanks for any help! +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 3 17:42:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24466; Mon, 3 Apr 95 17:42:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15671; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 16:20:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 16:20:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from bsdi.nucleus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15659; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 16:19:56 -0400 Received: (twkary@localhost) by bsdi.nucleus.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.5) id OAA09847; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:18:18 -0600 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:18:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Tim Kary To: DGJ@mfltd.co.uk Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Keyboard problems In-Reply-To: <9504031730.AA20596@mfmail.mfltd.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 3 Apr 1995 DGJ@mfltd.co.uk wrote: > Subject: Re: Keyboard problems > > > I've had a 755CE a couple weeks now and while overall it's extremely > > impressive every now and then it drops a char from those typed to it > > on its keyboard. This isn't 100% reproducable, but it is to some > > extent. It's almost as if the keyboard scan clock needs to be > > running a bit faster, or so it seems. This happens both in dos and > > windows and it doesn't matter what application software is running. > > I've always had a similar problem with my 755C. However, I'm convinced it > only happens when using an external keyboard. I'm using one of IBM's little > T-jack things which allows both an external mouse and keyboard to be plugged > into the single socket next the PCMCIA card slot. > > I can't reproduce it at will, but I most definitely know when it's happened! > > Regards, Gwyn. Micro Focus Ltd Tel. (44) (0)1635 565294 > 26 West Street Fax. (44) (0)1635 565567 > Extension 5294 Newbury RG13 1JT U.K. I would have to agree with this assessment. I have found the same to be true, but _only_ when using an external keyboard and the "Y" keyboard/mouse connector. It's not that big of a deal since when my fingers are flying I have been known, on occasion, to drop a character myself! Thank goodness for the spell-checker!! Tim Kary ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Kary twkary@nucleus.com |"Imagination is more 403-262-7021 hhttp://www.nucleus.com/tkary.html | important than knowledge." 870-1386 (voice mail) | - Albert Einstein ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 18:39:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04899; Mon, 3 Apr 95 18:39:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25751; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 18:24:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 18:24:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25741; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 18:24:29 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA11622; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 15:24:22 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id PAA08159; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 15:24:16 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504032224.PAA08159@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 15:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9504031622.AA05117@gl.ciw.edu> from "Victor Kress" at Apr 3, 95 12:29:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm wondering if the lithium-ion battery will work on older 750 series mach > If it will run a Pentium for a reasonable amount of time, it should run my > 750 for days:). Not likely. If my father wasn't lying to me (he worked for a battery-development company for a while--one of the majors that mfgrs. for the biggies like Motorola Radios & Cellular Phones), then the charge-cycle characteristics (and perhaps the discharge characteristics as well) involved in charging a Lithium-Ion battery are different enough from NiMH batteries that you wouldn't be able to use the other battery technology in your machine which is designed for NiMH batteries. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 4 01:12:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11305; Tue, 4 Apr 95 01:12:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20963; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:01:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:01:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20952; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:01:12 -0400 Received: from tonto-slip3.cis.brown.edu (tonto-slip3.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.23]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id BAA13398; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:02:57 -0400 Message-Id: <199504040502.BAA13398@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 01:00:20 -0400 To: "Susan H. Xu" From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month Cc: CAHILLRE@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, FADGENG@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, MCHENRY@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU At 10:41 AM 4/3/95 EDT, Susan H. Xu wrote: >I plan to purchase a TP 755C DX2 50MHz (haven't made the final decision >yet). My understanding is that the machine is upgradable to DX4 75mhz. >Does anyone know that can the Pentium chip upgrade a 755C DX2 50MHz >machine? If not, can it upgrade the TP 755C DX4 75MHz? Any advise of >buying either TP 755C DX2 or TP 755C DX4? Thanks for the help! >-Susan > The Pentium upgrade will not be work in a 755C. The Pentium upgrade kit only works for the 755CE, 755CSE and 755CD. Why a 755C? Price? I have a friend with a 755C (DX4/75), and he is not very happy with it. It is not that much faster then my other friend's Toshiba T2400CT (DX2/50) which cost (back then) half as much. If IBM is gonna discontinue the 755CE line, maybe IBM will be cutting prices on them real soon prior to their press release of the 755CX. <<<<<<<<<< WAI-SHAN LAM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail to: <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OR <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<72124.2644@CompuServe.Com>>>>>>>>> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 4 01:14:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11316; Tue, 4 Apr 95 01:14:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20951; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:01:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:01:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20937; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:01:09 -0400 Received: from tonto-slip3.cis.brown.edu (tonto-slip3.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.23]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id BAA13406; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:03:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199504040503.BAA13406@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 01:00:23 -0400 To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month At 12:29 PM 4/3/95 +0100, Victor Kress wrote: >I'm wondering if the lithium-ion battery will work on older 750 series machines. >If it will run a Pentium for a reasonable amount of time, it should run my >750 for days:). > >---------------------------- >Victor Kress >Geophysical Laboratory >5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. >Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 >(202) 686-2410 x2489 >--------------------------- > > > I believe the circuit has to be modified in order for a Nickel metal hydride machine to use Lithium-ion battery. I could be wrong, but I highly doubt it will work! <<<<<<<<<< WAI-SHAN LAM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail to: <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OR <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<72124.2644@CompuServe.Com>>>>>>>>> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 4 12:27:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16116; Tue, 4 Apr 95 12:27:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07502; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 12:02:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 12:02:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07492; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 12:02:08 -0400 Received: from get.hooked.net (get.hooked.net [199.2.134.2]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA06054; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:01:56 -0700 Received: from p15.slip.net (sfsp105.slip.net [204.160.88.149]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA07544; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:01:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199504041601.JAA07544@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 09:02:02 -0700 To: Sang H Kim , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: linux on tp755 At 01:57 PM 3/8/95 -0500, Sang H Kim wrote: >is there an ftp site that has the necessary files to install linux on tp755's? This is a page on 755cs specific installation: http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse/linux/ ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 4 13:44:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20489; Tue, 4 Apr 95 13:44:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12818; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 13:18:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 13:18:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12808; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 13:18:42 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id NAA19821; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 13:22:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 13:22:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: DGJ@mfltd.co.uk Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Keyboard problems In-Reply-To: <9504031730.AA20596@mfmail.mfltd.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 3 Apr 1995 DGJ@mfltd.co.uk wrote: > From: D. Gwyn Jones Fileshare 2 development, Products Group. > > > I've had a 755CE a couple weeks now and while overall it's extremely > > impressive every now and then it drops a char from those typed to it > > on its keyboard. This isn't 100% reproducable, but it is to some > > extent. It's almost as if the keyboard scan clock needs to be > > running a bit faster, or so it seems. This happens both in dos and > > windows and it doesn't matter what application software is running. > > I've always had a similar problem with my 755C. However, I'm convinced it > only happens when using an external keyboard. I'm using one of IBM's little > T-jack things which allows both an external mouse and keyboard to be plugged > into the single socket next the PCMCIA card slot. > > I can't reproduce it at will, but I most definitely know when it's happened! I had thought this was just a problem with my bad typing (I do ~70 wpm non-touch typing). I'm not glad to find it's a problem other people have. I too have the keyboard Y cable.... Anyone have this happen with a minidock/port replicator? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 4 14:45:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25636; Tue, 4 Apr 95 14:45:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16540; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 14:22:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 14:22:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16528; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 14:22:35 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA14649; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:22:26 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA26353; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:22:25 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504041822.LAA26353@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9504041327.AA07196@gl.ciw.edu> from "Victor Kress" at Apr 4, 95 09:35:22 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >> I'm wondering if the lithium-ion battery will work on older 750 series m > >> If it will run a Pentium for a reasonable amount of time, it should run my > >> 750 for days:). > > > > Not likely. If my father wasn't lying to me (he worked for a > >battery-development company for a while--one of the majors that mfgrs. for > >the biggies like Motorola Radios & Cellular Phones), then the charge-cycle > >characteristics (and perhaps the discharge characteristics as well) > >involved in charging a Lithium-Ion battery are different enough from > >NiMH batteries that you wouldn't be able to use the other battery > >technology in your machine which is designed for NiMH batteries. > > That seems reasonable. There is some intelligence in the thinkpad battery, > which is why it has an off switch. I wonder if the difference in charge > strategy is incorporated in on-board battery firmware. If so, it might > work. I wondered about that myself, but I'm pretty sure that the on-board "Battery intelligence" (which incidently, is not standard on the 360 series) is not capable of changing the charging or discharging capabilities of the computer. All it does is measure the current output against time, and provide fairly accurate estimates to the computer software ("Fuel") regarding how much time/juice is left. Changing the charge characteristics would be a whole lot bigger job. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 4 15:54:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29633; Tue, 4 Apr 95 15:54:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21745; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 15:20:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 15:20:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21723; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 15:19:58 -0400 Received: from novlpr.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP) id <23453-1@alf.uib.no>; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 21:18:29 +0200 Received: From EDBSENT1/WORKQUEUE1 by novlpr.uib.no via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.950404211814.704; 04 Apr 95 21:18:29 -200 Message-Id: From: Thor +ivind Jensen To: Don Whiteside Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 21:26:39 MET Subject: Re: Keyboard problems Reply-To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) > Subject: Re: Keyboard problems I recently had to get a new keyboard due to the same problem. I had it for month, once a week or so: most often when the battery systenm got warm. Replaced on the warranty (TP 750C) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 4 18:13:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13665; Tue, 4 Apr 95 18:13:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04728; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 17:50:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 17:50:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from elvis.neep.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04714; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 17:50:21 -0400 Message-Id: <199504042150.RAA04714@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from [144.92.52.168] by elvis.neep.wisc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13794; Tue, 4 Apr 95 16:43:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 16:43:54 -0500 X-Sender: jake@elvis.neep.wisc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: blanchar@engr.wisc.edu (Jake Blanchard) X-Mailer: Regarding dropped keys on thinkpads: > > I had thought this was just a problem with my bad typing (I do ~70 wpm >non-touch typing). I'm not glad to find it's a problem other people have. >I too have the keyboard Y cable.... Anyone have this happen with a >minidock/port replicator? > > I've had problems with this ever since I got my port replicator. I don't remember dropping keys using the built-in keyboard, but my external keyboard drops keys every few days (under constant use). It can be annoying. By the way, I do not have a y-cable. jake _______________________________________________ james p blanchard nuclear engineering and engineering physics ** university of wisconsin - madison ** blanchard@engr.wisc.edu OR jake@nucst6.neep.wisc.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 4 18:57:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16481; Tue, 4 Apr 95 18:57:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07525; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:27:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:27:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07515; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:27:16 -0400 Message-Id: <199504042227.SAA07515@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11632; Tue, 4 Apr 95 18:27:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 18:27:10 -0400 From: Chris Hanson To: blanchar@engr.wisc.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Tue, 4 Apr 95 16:43:54 -0500 from blanchar@engr.wisc.edu (Jake Blanchard) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 16:43:54 -0500 From: blanchar@engr.wisc.edu (Jake Blanchard) Regarding dropped keys on thinkpads: I've had problems with this ever since I got my port replicator. I don't remember dropping keys using the built-in keyboard, but my external keyboard drops keys every few days (under constant use). It can be annoying. By the way, I do not have a y-cable. Likewise, I don't have a Y cable, but the keyboard plugged into my dock II drops keys two or three times per hour. Up until now I had assumed it was the keyboard -- I was going to get a different one to get rid of the problem. Now it looks like that would be a waste of money. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 5 03:09:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22766; Wed, 5 Apr 95 03:09:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07366; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 02:54:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 02:54:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07356; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 02:53:58 -0400 Received: from novlpr.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP) id <03300-0@alf.uib.no>; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 08:52:25 +0200 Received: From EDBSENT1/WORKQUEUE1 by novlpr.uib.no via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.950405085135.384; 05 Apr 95 08:52:26 -200 Message-Id: From: Thor +ivind Jensen To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 09:00:02 MET Subject: TP750 and QEMM Reply-To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) I have now found the circumstances behin my system crashes: P705C, QEMM 7.5 , IBM DOS 6.3. Windows 3.1 If I open a DOS box and thereafter use FileManager to move a file (drag and drop) to a: , trhen I have a full crash (Exeption 6) evvery time. Any suggestions ? I have tried many different Qemm setups. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 5 18:13:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17172; Wed, 5 Apr 95 18:13:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15889; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:43:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:43:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns9000.furman.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15879; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:43:34 -0400 From: Received: from by ns9000.furman.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.15/16.2) id AA161278682; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:51:23 -0400 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:51:16 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: My external keyboard works! To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Item Subject: Message text This is just my $0.02 worth: ever since I got my ThinkPad 750 about a year ago I've used an external keyboard far more than the built-in one. First I used one of those y-adapters. Now I use a PCMCIA port replicator. I've *never* experienced this dropped characters problem, under either DOS/Windows or OS/2. For the record, I'm using an IBM keyboard (if that's relevant). Wesley Dunaway From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 5 19:39:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25208; Wed, 5 Apr 95 19:39:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21672; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 19:12:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 19:11:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hoover.stanford.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21662; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 19:11:57 -0400 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #8660) id <01HOZI3OIAK0005684@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Wed, 05 Apr 1995 16:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 1995 16:13:02 -0700 (PDT) From: ANNELISE ANDERSON Subject: Active & Passive Matrix To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HOZI3OITUA005684@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" X-Vms-Cc: ANDRSN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT What's the difference between active and passive matrix? Not technically, but in readability etc. One person has told me active is pre-adjusted, comes without brightness and constrast controls (largely); another says the opposite. Would appreciate clarification. Thanks Annelise From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 00:01:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29473; Thu, 6 Apr 95 00:01:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08250; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 23:51:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 23:51:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08238; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 23:51:44 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA02874; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 20:51:42 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id UAA17172; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 20:51:41 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504060351.UAA17172@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Active & Passive Matrix To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (ANNELISE ANDERSON) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 20:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <01HOZI3OITUA005684@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> from "ANNELISE ANDERSON" at Apr 5, 95 04:13:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > What's the difference between active and passive matrix? > > Not technically, but in readability etc. > > One person has told me active is pre-adjusted, comes without brightness > and constrast controls (largely); another says the opposite. Would > appreciate clarification. Not true--both have contrast and brightness controls. The contrast control works rather differently on the active screen vs. the passive though. In terms of "looks", the active is clearly--by every measure-- superior to the passive. Brighter, clearer...it was enough to make me send my passive screen back and pay the extra for the active. However, a dual-scan passive still sports a perfectly workable screen that looks quite decent. For the budget-conscious, it works perfectly well. The active is clearly superior, but the passive certainly isn't bad (as long as its dual-scan). ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 00:28:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00457; Thu, 6 Apr 95 00:28:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09945; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 00:18:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 00:18:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09935; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 00:18:27 -0400 Received: from ppp229.basegrp.com (ppp229.basegrp.com [204.248.92.229]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA29021; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 23:17:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 23:17:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199504060417.XAA29021@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: ANNELISE ANDERSON , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basegrp.com (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: Active & Passive Matrix At 04:13 PM 4/5/95 -0700, ANNELISE ANDERSON wrote: >What's the difference between active and passive matrix? > >Not technically, but in readability etc. > >One person has told me active is pre-adjusted, comes without brightness >and constrast controls (largely); another says the opposite. Would >appreciate clarification. > >Thanks > >Annelise > >From an end user perspective (brightnes, readability) the active matrix provides a brighter screen with more vibrant colors. It also refreshes faster. You typically won't see much motion video on a passive matrix screen because the pixels, since they are passively lit, don't 'change' fast enough. The birghtness and contrast functions are more a reflection of the model of the computer. The 750C (active matrix) has both a brightness and contrast switch. While the 755C (also active matrix) has only a contrast switch. I suspect they decided to leave it off the newer versions because it had more of a direct effect on the battery consumption than it did on the real brightness level of the display. In my classes, I always suggest that users keep the brightness switch as low as possible and use display angle and contrast to adjust the best view (the battery lasts longer). You will also find that passive matrix screens suffer from ghosting (i.e. if you move your mouse to fast, you can lose it on the screen for a while). They also don't have as great a viewing angle as the active matrix screens. You will also see a type of passive matrix called dual scan passive matrix. It is much better than standard passive matrix but is still not as fast and clean as active matrix. Most models with this will say something like CS on the end of the number (eg 750CS). Hope this non-technical description helps. |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 03:03:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02626; Thu, 6 Apr 95 03:03:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17020; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 02:47:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 02:47:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17009; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 02:47:45 -0400 Received: from by (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA04061 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:55:46 +0900 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:55:46 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199504060655.PAA04061@Pion> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755C, DockII (with Adaptec SCSI), and Linux Hi. I have the above equipment. I'm trying to get a SCSI interface to work with it. So far, no luck. I have a NEC 4x CD-ROM and 2 gig HD attached to the Dock II SCSI port. I've also built the latest Linux kernel (v1.2.3) using all the Adaptec drivers.. But my machine doesn't recognise any SCSI devices when it boots!!! Has anyone else done this? Is anyone else trying to do this?? Comments would be most appreciated. Thankyou. -Lee Hounshell lee@tcs.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 10:40:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20023; Thu, 6 Apr 95 10:40:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17554; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:26:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:26:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rigel.lmt.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17539; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:26:30 -0400 Received: from leonardo.lmt.com by rigel.lmt.com with SMTP id AA17592 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:31:28 -0500 Received: from LEONARDO/SMTPQUEUE by leonardo.lmt.com (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 6 Apr 95 9:31:29 GMT-6 Received: from SMTPQUEUE by LEONARDO (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 6 Apr 95 9:30:43 GMT-6 From: "Chris Schumann" Organization: LaserMaster Technologies R&D Divn. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:30:35 CST6CDT Subject: Active & Passive Matrix, technically Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <2E01A45936@leonardo.lmt.com> > From: krisdw@basegrp.com (Kris D. Williams) > You typically won't see much motion video on a passive matrix > screen because the pixels, since they are passively lit, don't 'change' fast > enough. I'd really like to get technical here, just for fun. Active matrix pixels are also passively lit. They are brighter because the driver for the pixel is right at the pixel. Since each pixel is basically a capacitor, this is faster because there is much less area to charge than a whole line of pixels driven by a chip off the edge of the screen. A larger voltage can also be applied because of the quick charge time. This also allows for a wider dynamic range, or more levels of brightness, or more colors. Because there are now several hundred thousand drivers, it is more likely that a few will be bad, hence the stuck-on or stuck-off pixels. > You will also find that passive matrix screens suffer from ghosting (i.e. if > you move your mouse to fast, you can lose it on the screen for a while). This is the exact same effect. Namely, the image changing faster than then screen can accomodate. > They also don't have as great a viewing angle as the active matrix screens. Just for education, does anyone have an explanation for this? > You will also see a type of passive matrix called dual scan passive matrix. > It is much better than standard passive matrix but is still not as fast and > clean as active matrix. Dual scan reduces many of the problems by using two controllers, one on each half of the screen. This means each line of pixels is only half as long, so has a lower capacitance, and each half of the screen is updated at the same time, effectively doubling the scan rate. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 10:41:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20035; Thu, 6 Apr 95 10:41:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17735; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:29:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:29:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17723; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:29:18 -0400 From: Received: from ccMail by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id f83ecb30; Thu, 6 Apr 95 08:29:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:23:58 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: Re: TP750 and QEMM To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, Thor +ivind Jensen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Just My thoughts (and experience) get rid of QEMM. That solved most of the problems I have encountered relating to Windows and exception errors. ...Mike Eddy... ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: TP750 and QEMM Author: Thor +ivind Jensen at Internet Date: 4/5/95 9:00 AM I have now found the circumstances behin my system crashes: P705C, QEMM 7.5 , IBM DOS 6.3. Windows 3.1 If I open a DOS box and thereafter use FileManager to move a file (drag and drop) to a: , trhen I have a full crash (Exeption 6) evvery time. Any suggestions ? I have tried many different Qemm setups. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 15:55:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16397; Thu, 6 Apr 95 15:55:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14655; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:38:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:38:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14640; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:38:36 -0400 Received: from hp.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA28240; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:38:24 -0600 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.15//ident-1.0) id AA031087371; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:42:51 -0600 Message-Id: <199504061942.AA031087371@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: 755C, DockII (with Adaptec SCSI), and Linux To: lee@champion.tcs.co.jp (Lee Hounshell) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:42:51 -0600 (MDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199504060655.PAA04061@Pion> from "Lee Hounshell" at Apr 6, 95 03:55:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hi. > > I have the above equipment. > I'm trying to get a SCSI interface to work with it. > So far, no luck. I have a friend here at work with a Dock II and he did get the SCSI working. You will need to patch and then rebuild the kernel. The patch needed is in drivers/scsi/aha152x.c. You need to add a new signature to the signatures[] array. If you look in the file you will see a part like this: { "Adaptec AHA-1520 BIOS", 0x102e, 21 }, /* Adaptec 152x */ { "Adaptec ASW-B626 BIOS", 0x1029, 21 }, /* on-board controller */ ... Add to the list: { "Adaptec BIOS:AHA-1532P", 0x1c, 22 }, /* TP Dock II */ This should then let Linux find your SCSI controller. > I have a NEC 4x CD-ROM and 2 gig HD attached to the Dock II SCSI > port. I've also built the latest Linux kernel (v1.2.3) using all > the Adaptec drivers.. But my machine doesn't recognise any SCSI > devices when it boots!!! It will with the above patch. Let me know if there are other problems. > Has anyone else done this? > Is anyone else trying to do this?? > > Comments would be most appreciated. > Thankyou. > > -Lee Hounshell > lee@tcs.com +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 15:55:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16468; Thu, 6 Apr 95 15:55:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14663; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:38:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:38:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns9000.furman.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14647; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:38:44 -0400 From: Received: from by ns9000.furman.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.15/16.2) id AA153477595; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:46:35 -0400 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 95 15:45:50 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: Re: My external keyboard works! To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Item Subject: Message text > Is the PCMCIA card port replicator available from IBM or from a third-party > vendor? > > Which peripherals can you attach to this card? > > Thnaks! > > Jorge > The PCMCIA card port replicator is made by IBM. I got mine from my computer dealer, but IBM PC Direct probably has them too. As far as I know, the card slots work with any PCMCIA card that you can put into the internal slots. When you boot the computer with the port replicator attached, it just recognizes the two extra slots. I've successfully (and transparently) used it with my modem. Aside from that, the port replicator has duplicates of all the ports on the back of my ThinkPad 750, as well as a floppy disk drive port and separate keyboard and mouse ports. Hope this information helps. Wesley T. Dunaway From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 20:05:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05197; Thu, 6 Apr 95 20:05:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02369; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:46:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:46:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from grace.waikato.ac.nz by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02345; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:46:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:46:36 -0400 From: Message-Id: <199504062346.TAA02345@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from mutant by waikato.ac.nz; Fri, 7 Apr 95 11:43 +1300 Subject: unsubscribe To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Sender: srodgers@waikato.ac.nz X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" unsubscribe Stephen J Rodgers ITS Workshop Supervisor Waikato University New Zealand From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 20:09:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06269; Thu, 6 Apr 95 20:09:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02984; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:59:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:59:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from scunix1.harvard.edu.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02974; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:59:32 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:59:13 -0400 Message-Id: <9504062359.AA05496@scunix1.harvard.edu.harvard.edu> X-Sender: chan4@scunix3.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: chan4@fas.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan) Subject: Re: 755C, DockII (with Adaptec SCSI), and Linux >Hi. > >I have the above equipment. >I'm trying to get a SCSI interface to work with it. >So far, no luck. > >I have a NEC 4x CD-ROM and 2 gig HD attached to the Dock II SCSI >port. I've also built the latest Linux kernel (v1.2.3) using all >the Adaptec drivers.. But my machine doesn't recognise any SCSI >devices when it boots!!! > >Has anyone else done this? >Is anyone else trying to do this?? > >Comments would be most appreciated. >Thankyou. > >-Lee Hounshell >lee@tcs.com > The 1542P is compatible w/ the 152x series. Add the following to your lilo config: aha152x=0x340,11,7,1 <--assuming you have not messed w/ your current Dock II config (adaptor should still be at 7) Worked for me! -- Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com chan4@fas.harvard.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 20:13:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06660; Thu, 6 Apr 95 20:13:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03227; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 20:03:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 20:03:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from thumper.pomona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03217; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 20:03:55 -0400 Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #9731) id <01HP0Y62QX9C8Y4WUM@POMONA.EDU>; Thu, 06 Apr 1995 17:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 1995 17:03:50 -0700 (PDT) From: scooby doo Subject: 755Cs hanging up after hibernation To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HP0Y62U5028Y4WUM@POMONA.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I have a 755Cs I leave my computer on MS Windows. After I put it in suspend mode, it automatically switches to Hibernate after 1 hour. I use MS Kermit in a window with a PCMCIA card and every time, after hibernation, I run MS Kermit and it does not run. It gives me a message telling me to turn on my modem and then when I exit MS Kermit, the machine freezes. i think there is a problem of recognizing the PCMCIA modem card after hibernation. does anyone have a solution? paul From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 21:53:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13521; Thu, 6 Apr 95 21:53:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09675; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 21:42:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 21:42:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from baijuyi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09664; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 21:42:49 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by baijuyi (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA23737 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:40:23 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199504070140.JAA23737@baijuyi> Subject: Request config.sys for XJ2144 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:40:23 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text hi, I'd be grateful if any one can post me their config.sys setup for setting up the Megahertz XJ2144 modem (flash ROM, MNP10, etc). By default C&S services excludes C000-CFFF wheras Megahertz advises to exclude D000-DFFF from the manual. However the manual did say that there was an exception with TPs. (pls. include parts of autodrv.ini and system.ini for any specific alterations) Anyways, using ezplay/Win recognised the modem and stated that it was ready, no card name info tho'. So I closed ezplay/Win again and reloaded it, recognised the modem, shows the name Megahertz etc. but modem not ready! I'm currently using C&S services from Util Diskette v2.00 dated 28.9.94 and BIOS upgrade 1.15 dated 14.11.94 I realised that there were newer copies of the disks but the same versions - possibly catering for the newer TP models. I also found the universal PCMCIA diskette dated somewhere in Feb 95. The current C&S services I'm using does not list the XJ2144 in pcmcia.crd. Any comments? cheers. ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 03:58:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13178; Fri, 7 Apr 95 03:58:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05468; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:46:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:46:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05458; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:46:13 -0400 Received: from tonto-slip7.cis.brown.edu (tonto-slip7.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.27]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id DAA07040; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:48:12 -0400 Message-Id: <199504070748.DAA07040@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 07 Apr 1995 03:45:18 -0400 To: scooby doo , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Re: 755Cs hanging up after hibernation At 05:03 PM 4/6/95 -0700, scooby doo wrote: >I have a 755Cs >I leave my computer on MS Windows. After I put it in suspend mode, it >automatically switches to Hibernate after 1 hour. I use MS Kermit in a window >with a PCMCIA card and every time, after hibernation, I run MS Kermit and it >does not run. It gives me a message telling me to turn on my modem and then >when I exit MS Kermit, the machine freezes. >i think there is a problem of recognizing the PCMCIA modem card after >hibernation. >does anyone have a solution? > >paul > Which modem are you using? Are you using Ezplay? <<<<<<<<<< WAI-SHAN LAM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail to: <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OR <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<72124.2644@CompuServe.Com>>>>>>>>> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 04:05:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14175; Fri, 7 Apr 95 04:05:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05892; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:52:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:51:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05874; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:51:55 -0400 Received: from haralds.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/Task/HJ-5) id AA270201109; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:51:49 +0200 Received: by haralds.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/HJ/Task-5) id AA140871115; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:51:55 +0200 From: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) Message-Id: <199504070751.AA140871115@haralds.cs.uit.no> Subject: "Floating" active matrix on 755cd To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:51:55 +0200 (METDST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi! I have experienced a temporary "insane" screen on a tp755cd. At the end of the day the colors suddenly began to float or drift to the right. It also happened that the area around the mousecursor kind of "picked" up a random background pattern and "carried" it all over the screen. This was very annoying and I called the IBM technical people to pick it up an fix it. But now, ofcource the screen is fine again and I have nothing wrong to show the IBM technical person. Has anyone experienced this? I guess this is likely to happen again and I do not like it! -- //// Harald Skotnes // Email: harald@staff.cs.uit.no / /// Dept. of Computer Science // Phone: +47 77 64 41 16 // // University of Tromsoe // Fax: +47 77 64 40 54 /// / N-9037 TROMSOE NORWAY // Like it or not, it's One World //// From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 04:10:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14193; Fri, 7 Apr 95 04:10:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05990; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:55:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:55:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from icebox.mfltd.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05978; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:55:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (jfid@localhost) by icebox.mfltd.co.uk (8.6.4/8.6.4) id IAA21198 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 08:55:00 +0100 Message-Id: <199504070755.IAA21198@icebox.mfltd.co.uk> From: jfid@mfltd.co.uk (James Fidell) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 08:54:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: Derek V. Chan's note of Apr 6, 7:59pm To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755C, DockII (with Adaptec SCSI), and Linux Derek V. Chan wrote: > >Hi. > > > >I have the above equipment. > >I'm trying to get a SCSI interface to work with it. > >So far, no luck. > > > >I have a NEC 4x CD-ROM and 2 gig HD attached to the Dock II SCSI > >port. I've also built the latest Linux kernel (v1.2.3) using all > >the Adaptec drivers.. But my machine doesn't recognise any SCSI > >devices when it boots!!! > > The 1542P is compatible w/ the 152x series. > > Add the following to your lilo config: > > aha152x=0x340,11,7,1 <--assuming you have not messed w/ your current Dock II > config (adaptor should still be at 7) Does anyone know how to get Linux to recognise the Dock I SCSI card ? James. -- "Yield to temptation -- | jfid@mfltd.co.uk it may not pass your way again" | http://www.mfltd.co.uk/~jfid/ | - Lazarus Long | James Fidell From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 09:04:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00250; Fri, 7 Apr 95 09:04:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27274; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 08:54:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 08:54:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pelican.cit.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27264; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 08:54:35 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by pelican.cit.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03chaos) id AA25112; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 08:54:27 -0400 Message-Id: <9504071254.AA25112@pelican.cit.cornell.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5.3 12/28/94 To: scooby doo Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755Cs hanging up after hibernation In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 06 Apr 1995 17:03:50 PDT." <01HP0Y62U5028Y4WUM@POMONA.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 07 Apr 1995 08:54:26 -0400 From: Bob Cowles > when I exit MS Kermit, the machine freezes. > i think there is a problem of recognizing the PCMCIA modem card after > hibernation. > does anyone have a solution? > > paul I was just thinking about asking for a solution to a similar problem that I have been having ... I have a TP755c running Warp. I recently reinstalled Warp and began using the card&socket services from the installation rather than from the Thinkpad Diskettes. Everything works except that the PCMCIA cards do not come back after hibernation (like the problem described above). I know that they did come back after hibernation when I was using the TP drivers ... has anyone else faced and fix this problem with Warp on a TP75x? ----------------------- Bob Cowles (aka Dr. Chaos) || finger drchaos@pelican.cit.cornell.edu rdc1@cornell.edu || for contents of latest Chaos Corner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 11:14:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28181; Fri, 7 Apr 95 11:14:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07848; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:56:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:56:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07836; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:56:16 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rxFSc-0004tnC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 09:56 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rxFSa-0002oOC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 09:56 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rxFSZ-0002wvC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 09:56 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: 755Cs hanging up after hibernation To: rdc@pelican.cit.cornell.edu (Bob Cowles) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:56:31 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9504071254.AA25112@pelican.cit.cornell.edu> from "Bob Cowles" at Apr 7, 95 08:54:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I was just thinking about asking for a solution to a similar problem that I > have been having ... I have a TP755c running Warp. I recently reinstalled > Warp and began using the card&socket services from the installation rather > than from the Thinkpad Diskettes. Everything works except that the PCMCIA > cards do not come back after hibernation (like the problem described above). > I know that they did come back after hibernation when I was using the TP > drivers ... has anyone else faced and fix this problem with Warp on a TP75x? It's a known problem with warp's apm / pcmcia drivers. Good luck getting someone to fix it though. I gave up complaining. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 17:41:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08995; Fri, 7 Apr 95 17:41:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07749; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 17:18:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 17:18:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07739; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 17:18:19 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144283>; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 17:18:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: Harald Skotnes's message as of Apr 7, 4:09am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Should I complain? Message-Id: <95Apr7.171800edt.144283@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 17:17:50 -0400 I received my 755CE a few days back (wanted a CD, but you know the story). It's pretty nice. When I start up the machine, there is exactly one pixel toward the centre of the screen that is off-colour. I don't seem to notice it when Windows comes up. The question is, is this a bug or a feature? Is it common in an active-matrix screen to have a bad pixel? Thanks, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 19:19:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15395; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:19:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14894; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:04:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:04:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14873; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:04:18 -0400 Received: from p06.slip.net (sfsp114.slip.net [204.160.88.140]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA19495; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 16:03:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199504072303.QAA19495@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 07 Apr 1995 16:04:15 -0700 To: Eugene Fiume , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: Should I complain? At 05:17 PM 4/7/95 -0400, Eugene Fiume wrote: >I received my 755CE a few days back (wanted a CD, but you know the story). >It's pretty nice. When I start up the machine, there is exactly one pixel >toward the centre of the screen that is off-colour. I don't seem to notice >it when Windows comes up. The question is, is this a bug or a feature? >Is it common in an active-matrix screen to have a bad pixel? It's fairly common, and they'll tell you it's okay (I think toshiba says up to 6 bad pixels is acceptable!). Whether you complain is up to you, personally, I don't think a bad pixel is acceptable, and sent a tp back once for a replacement. ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 19:42:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17106; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:42:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15858; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:23:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:23:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix3.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15848; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:23:06 -0400 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix3.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.10+PanixU1.0) id TAA13657; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:22:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:22:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Finally got my 755cd! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII After 6.2 months of waiting, IBM fianlly delivered the 755cd that I ordered back in November. I hate to say this, but it was worth the wait. What an awesome machine! Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 20:18:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19044; Fri, 7 Apr 95 20:18:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17701; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:06:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:06:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17690; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:06:22 -0400 Received: from p06.slip.net (sfsp95.slip.net [204.160.88.159]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA25135; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 17:06:11 -0700 Message-Id: <199504080006.RAA25135@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 07 Apr 1995 17:06:27 -0700 To: Michael MacDonald , Thinkpad mailing list From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: Finally got my 755cd! At 07:22 PM 4/7/95 -0400, Michael MacDonald wrote: >After 6.2 months of waiting, IBM fianlly delivered the 755cd that I >ordered back in November. I hate to say this, but it was worth the wait. >What an awesome machine! None of the cd problems we've been hearing about? ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 20:20:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19354; Fri, 7 Apr 95 20:20:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17769; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:08:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:08:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix3.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17753; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:08:35 -0400 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix3.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.10+PanixU1.0) id UAA16221; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:07:58 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:07:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael MacDonald To: jesse montrose Cc: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: Finally got my 755cd! In-Reply-To: <199504080006.RAA25135@mom.hooked.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, jesse montrose wrote: > At 07:22 PM 4/7/95 -0400, Michael MacDonald wrote: > >After 6.2 months of waiting, IBM fianlly delivered the 755cd that I > >ordered back in November. I hate to say this, but it was worth the wait. > >What an awesome machine! > > None of the cd problems we've been hearing about? Not yet. Maybe the newer models don't have the same problem. (I hope). -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 8 00:10:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00465; Sat, 8 Apr 95 00:10:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02496; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 23:57:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 23:57:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02486; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 23:57:18 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA14459; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:57:15 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id UAA05564; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:57:14 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504080357.UAA05564@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Should I complain? To: elf@dgp.toronto.edu (Eugene Fiume) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <95Apr7.171800edt.144283@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> from "Eugene Fiume" at Apr 7, 95 05:17:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I received my 755CE a few days back (wanted a CD, but you know the story). > It's pretty nice. When I start up the machine, there is exactly one pixel > toward the centre of the screen that is off-colour. I don't seem to notice > it when Windows comes up. The question is, is this a bug or a feature? Neither. > Is it common in an active-matrix screen to have a bad pixel? Its a common by-product to have a couple of bad pixels in an active- matrix screen. Comes with the territory. They just try to keep the exact number of "baddies" minimized. > > Thanks, > Eugene Fiume. > ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 8 01:36:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22767; Sat, 8 Apr 95 01:36:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07093; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:26:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:26:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07083; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:26:02 -0400 Received: (from postman@localhost) by andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id BAA23393 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:25:57 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:25:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix15.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:25:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix15.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:25:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix15.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix15.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:25:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:25:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: weird vertical linse in dual scan I have a 755Cs dual scan thinkpd and when I life the screen sometimes, the bottom half is filled with vertical multicolored lines all i have to do is shift the screen a bit and it's gone. but it's annoying and it never had that problem until 2 weeks ago. is this a serious problem? thanks in advance From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 8 10:13:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15471; Sat, 8 Apr 95 10:13:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08142; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 10:00:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 10:00:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08127; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 10:00:25 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144282>; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 10:00:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: Sang H Kim's message as of Apr 8, 1:40am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: First Steps: Loading Linux Message-Id: <95Apr8.100014edt.144282@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 10:00:13 -0400 I'm sure I have a very basic problem here. I have the Yggdrasil Plug-and-Play Linux CDROM and boot floppy. I suspect some might say that's my problem! When I try to boot my 755CE from that boot floppy, I get the first two letters of the expected "LILO", and then it hangs. If I try to "runlinux" >from the CDROM (Raven CD-Note PCMCIA-SCSI interface), I get a DOS message saying that I am trying to perform a "privileged" operation. The "runlinux" command just tries to load linux boot code above the DOS driver memory so that it can use them. Is there a change I should be making to my configuration to allow such a "privileged" operation? I am using the standard config.sys etc., except that I have installed the CDROM and an ethernet network card driver. Any ideas why the boot floppy hangs the machine? To make certain my bootfloppy was current, I remade it, but got the same result. An old UNIX geek who doesn't know the first thing about DOS and Windows... Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 9 04:27:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13040; Sun, 9 Apr 95 04:27:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05633; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 04:13:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 04:13:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from lut.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05619; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 04:13:14 -0400 Received: (from saarinen@localhost) by lut.fi (8.6.11/8.6.6/1.20.kim) id LAA24031; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 11:12:58 +0300 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 11:12:57 +0300 (EETDST) From: Seppo Saarinen To: Eugene Fiume Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: First Steps: Loading Linux In-Reply-To: <95Apr8.100014edt.144282@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey! The Boot Manager programm, delivered at least with OS/2, might help. 73! by Seppo Saarinen From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 9 10:46:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09134; Sun, 9 Apr 95 10:46:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28649; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 10:37:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 10:37:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from student.uq.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28625; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 10:37:37 -0400 Received: from student.uq.edu.au (cs322612@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by student.uq.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA01636; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:37:21 +1000 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:37:15 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson To: Sang H Kim Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: weird vertical linse in dual scan In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Sang H Kim wrote: > I have a 755Cs dual scan thinkpd > and when I life the screen sometimes, the bottom half is filled with > vertical multicolored lines > all i have to do is shift the screen a bit and it's gone. but it's > annoying and it never had that problem until 2 weeks ago. > is this a serious problem? I have a friend who had this happen after about 6 months on a 750C. In her case, it was a connector problem, and IBM replaced the entire screen within half a day (to a new 755 Active one!). But yes it apparently isn't damaging anything. And no, it won't go away. (That's what IBM said, anyway). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 02:16:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21082; Mon, 10 Apr 95 02:16:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21346; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 02:05:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 02:05:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hoover.stanford.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21328; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 02:05:22 -0400 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #8660) id <01HP5HG7GWJ4005V8I@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Sun, 09 Apr 1995 23:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 1995 23:06:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: Flash Cards To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HP5HG7HPGY005V8I@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" X-Vms-Cc: ANDRSN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I am curious about how flashcards, that is pcmcia memory cards, work on the ThinkPads. I saw one listed for about $300 that was provided 2.5 MB. That seems like expensive memory to me! Is it possible to write to these cards, put subdirectories on them, revise and save files, delete files, copy files from them, just as one can on, say, a floppy drive? Do they respond to all the usual DOS commands? Can you use "join" or "append" to access the data as you can with a regular floppy drive? Thanks for any advice. Annelise From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 07:39:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09569; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:39:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08152; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:13:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:13:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from thumper.pomona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08130; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:13:42 -0400 Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #9731) id <01HP5LA9BZ008WWNRF@POMONA.EDU>; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:51:33 -0700 (PDT) From: scooby doo Subject: 755Cs hanging up after hibernation To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HP5LA9C1TU8WWNRF@POMONA.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT the question that i initially asked was why does the 755Cs hang up upon using my PCMCIA card after hibernation? i could not figure out why. a couple of people told me through this list that it was because the computer didn't recognize the card slot after hibernation and suggested popping the card out and in again. this method works but an easier way for those people using windows is to click on EZPlay. then, you click on the card slot that you want to initialize again and click on card info. then click on change and finally ok. this causes the computer to reinitialize it and it can be used again without a problem. it has worked for me so far. paul From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 09:58:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17712; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:58:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16299; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:31:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:31:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pelican.cit.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16286; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:31:11 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by pelican.cit.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03chaos) id AA20021; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:31:09 -0400 Message-Id: <9504101331.AA20021@pelican.cit.cornell.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5.3 12/28/94 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755Cs hanging up after hibernation In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:51:33 PDT." <01HP5LA9C1TU8WWNRF@POMONA.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:31:09 -0400 From: Bob Cowles I got some wonderful suggestions. One was to pop the card out and put it in again. On my machine, running Warp, that causes it to lock up, requiring a power-on reset. The other suggestion seems to involve making some choices in the EZ-play softwaer that do not exist in the Warp OS/2 version (titled Plug and Play for PCMCIA). Anyone have any other suggestions (I'm about to go back to the Thinkpad drivers for PCMCIA rather than using the Warp drivers). ----------------------- Bob Cowles (aka Dr. Chaos) || finger drchaos@pelican.cit.cornell.edu rdc1@cornell.edu || for contents of latest Chaos Corner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 10:46:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19918; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:46:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20036; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:13:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:13:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20011; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:13:41 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id HAA22252; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:13:39 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id HAA28239; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:13:38 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504101413.HAA28239@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Flash Cards To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (Annelise Anderson) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <01HP5HG7HPGY005V8I@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> from "Annelise Anderson" at Apr 9, 95 11:06:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I am curious about how flashcards, that is pcmcia memory cards, work > on the ThinkPads. > > I saw one listed for about $300 that was provided 2.5 MB. That seems > like expensive memory to me! It certainly isn't cheap. The price you're quoting is quite a bit on the high side. I'm fairly certain you can get a 5 MB card for about that same price. You have to understand though, this isn't the kind of thing you just whimsically buy and use. It is something that is has special purposes for special needs. The reason I have one (and yes, it does work in my ThinkPad, but after trying it out a year ago, I've not put it in since--simply haven't the need) is because I have an HP 100LX--one of those little "palmtop" computers. This animal is woefully under-powered in the memory department, and a flash card in its slot is precisely the solution to fit the bill. Also, the HP Omnibook series offers a large (20 or 40 MB) flashcard as an option, for the hopelessly battery-power paranoid (well...for those who want their Omnibook to run for 12 hours or so rather than the usual X number of ours with a regular hard drive). > Is it possible to write to these cards, put subdirectories on them, > revise and save files, delete files, copy files from them, just as > one can on, say, a floppy drive? Do they respond to all the usual > DOS commands? Can you use "join" or "append" to access the data as > you can with a regular floppy drive? > > Thanks for any advice. Yes to all of the above. Once you get the proper driver(s) to activiate the card & recognize it as a DOS drive, you're in business--works just like any other "hard drive". ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 11:04:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21207; Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:04:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22841; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:49:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:49:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22825; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:49:03 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.36] (mac36.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA19726; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:48:54 EDT Message-Id: <9504101448.AA19726@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:56:43 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: 755Cs hanging up after hibernation >I got some wonderful suggestions. One was to pop the card out and put it in >again. On my machine, running Warp, that causes it to lock up, requiring a >power-on reset. The other suggestion seems to involve making some choices in >the EZ-play softwaer that do not exist in the Warp OS/2 version (titled Plug >and Play for PCMCIA). Anyone have any other suggestions (I'm about to go back >to the Thinkpad drivers for PCMCIA rather than using the Warp drivers). I'm using Plug and Play for PCMCIA v. 1.00 on a 750 under WARP. I'm pretty sure I'm using the Thinkpad version, but I'm not absolutely sure. I have absolutely no problems hot plugging any card. You should not have to live with this. Unlike my windows experience, hot plugging the lan card doesn't even lock tcpip. Unfortunately, getting card info does not reset the card under WARP, leaving hot plugging as the only alternative I can find for resetting the card. Does anyone know a better way under WARP? ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 12:01:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25705; Mon, 10 Apr 95 12:01:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28926; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:46:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:46:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from internet-mail.ford.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28909; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:46:18 -0400 Received: from sun1.apo.ford.com (sun1old.apo.ford.com) by internet-mail.ford.com with SMTP id AA29663 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:46:14 -0400 Received: from ren0010.so.ford.com by sun1.apo.ford.com (5.0/Ford 2.0) via id AA02140; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:38:42 +0500 Received: from REN0010/PMAIL by ren0010.so.ford.com (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:46:02 +1100 Received: from PMAIL by REN0010 (Mercury 1.11); Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:45:39 +1100 From: "Adam Wilkinson" To: Randal Whittle , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:45:27 EST Subject: Re: Flash Cards Reply-To: awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com X-Confirm-Reading-To: awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <11480CA43CC@ren0010.so.ford.com> > From: Randal Whittle > Subject: Re: Flash Cards > To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (Annelise Anderson) > Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:13:37 -0700 (PDT) > Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) > > I am curious about how flashcards, that is pcmcia memory cards, work > > on the ThinkPads. > > > > I saw one listed for about $300 that was provided 2.5 MB. That seems > > like expensive memory to me! > > It certainly isn't cheap. The price you're quoting is quite a > bit on the high side. I'm fairly certain you can get a 5 MB card for > about that same price. > > You have to understand though, this isn't the kind of thing you > just whimsically buy and use. It is something that is has special > purposes for special needs. > > The reason I have one (and yes, it does work in my ThinkPad, > but after trying it out a year ago, I've not put it in since--simply > haven't the need) is because I have an HP 100LX--one of those little > "palmtop" computers. This animal is woefully under-powered in the > memory department, and a flash card in its slot is precisely the > solution to fit the bill. Also, the HP Omnibook series offers a > large (20 or 40 MB) flashcard as an option, for the hopelessly > battery-power paranoid (well...for those who want their Omnibook to > run for 12 hours or so rather than the usual X number of ours with > a regular hard drive). > > > Is it possible to write to these cards, put subdirectories on them, > > revise and save files, delete files, copy files from them, just as > > one can on, say, a floppy drive? Do they respond to all the usual > > DOS commands? Can you use "join" or "append" to access the data as > > you can with a regular floppy drive? > > > > Thanks for any advice. > > Yes to all of the above. > > Once you get the proper driver(s) to activiate the card & > recognize it as a DOS drive, you're in business--works just like any > other "hard drive". > > ----- ___________________________ > Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | > USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | > (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | > right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | > --------------------------- I think the fact being lost here is that these are SRAM (Static RAM) cards, there fore the added expense. SRAM is more expensive that DRAM (what is used to expand our machine's base RAM), in addition, I believe there is additional intelligence required to allow the device emulate traditional magnetic storage. $50/MB is a reasonable price for ThinkPad DRAM, but much to cheap for SRAM cards. -- Adam Lee Wilkinson Portable Computing Technology Specialist Ford Motor Co. - Marketing & Sales Systems awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 13:29:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03611; Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:29:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05616; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:07:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:07:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05606; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:06:59 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA26119; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 12:06:54 -0500 Message-Id: <9504101706.AA26119@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 95 12:07:50 EDT From: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: Flash Cards On Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:45:27 EST you wrote: >> > I am curious about how flashcards, that is pcmcia memory cards, work >> > on the ThinkPads. >> > >> > I saw one listed for about $300 that was provided 2.5 MB. That seems >> > like expensive memory to me! >> >> It certainly isn't cheap. The price you're quoting is quite a >> bit on the high side. I'm fairly certain you can get a 5 MB card for >> about that same price. >I think the fact being lost here is that these are SRAM (Static RAM) >cards, there fore the added expense. SRAM is more expensive that DRAM No, it's flash RAM. It's non-volatile -- doesn't need any power to maintain its contents. That's why you can use it like a hard drive. SRAM can be accessed while power is being supplied to it (refreshed) so it doesn't impose wait states. DRAM is inaccessible when being refreshed and you wind up with wait states. It's still expensive. Then again, I can remember trying to save up $200 for a 16k RAM expansion on my Atari 800. _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 16:24:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14912; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:24:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21461; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:05:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:04:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns.ge.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21438; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:04:51 -0400 Received: from thomas.ge.com ([3.47.28.21]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id QAA02569 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:04:49 -0400 Received: from salem.ge.com (carsdb.salem.ge.com [3.29.7.15]) by thomas.ge.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id QAA12117 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:04:47 -0400 Received: from mhsgate.salem.ge.com by salem.ge.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20722; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:04:54 EDT Received: by mhsgate.salem.ge.com from NetWare MHS, SMF-70 via XGATE 2.12 MHS to SMTP Gateway (XSMTP Module) Message-Id: <40DAC2380105AED1@mhsgate.salem.ge.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 95 15:59:00 EST From: Linn Ernest Y To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Reply-To: Subject: Windows NT on TP755Cd X-Mailer: XGATE 2.12 MHS/SMTP Gateway Is there anyone who has loaded Windows NT on a 755CD? Are there any gotchas? We have loaded NT over our LAN and the OS works, but we can not get it to recognize our CD or video adapter. We haven't tried the internal modem, but would expect some problem there also. Ernie Linn From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 17:58:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20536; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:58:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29520; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 17:44:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 17:44:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29504; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 17:43:58 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01641; Mon, 10 Apr 95 14:42:51 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id OAA22745; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:42:46 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9504101442.ZM22743@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:42:45 -0700 In-Reply-To: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) "Re: Flash Cards" (Apr 10, 12:07pm) References: <9504101706.AA26119@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Flash Cards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Apr 10, 12:07pm, John H. Kim wrote: > Subject: Re: Flash Cards > On Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:45:27 EST you wrote: > > >> > I am curious about how flashcards, that is pcmcia memory cards, work > >> > on the ThinkPads. > > >I think the fact being lost here is that these are SRAM (Static RAM) > >cards, there fore the added expense. SRAM is more expensive that DRAM > > No, it's flash RAM. It's non-volatile -- doesn't need any power to > maintain its contents. That's why you can use it like a hard drive. > SRAM can be accessed while power is being supplied to it (refreshed) > so it doesn't impose wait states. DRAM is inaccessible when being > refreshed and you wind up with wait states. Static RAM does not have a refresh state. A Dynamic RAM data element (bit) is implemented with a single current transistor, which essentially acts as a capacitor. Since capacitors exhibit current leakage, you have to periodically "refresh" the transistor by essentially reading the element. The elements are arranged in rows, and you have to read out an entire row into an internal buffer to read a single bit. Thus, you are refreshing rows at a time. Static RAM elements are implemented with four transistors forming a flip-flop gate. This is why they have much lower densities than Dynamic RAM's. The flip-flop will maintain its state until the power to the chip is shut off -- there is no refresh. You can also access individual bits without waiting for the row strobe (RAS) to come by, which is one of the reasons SRAM is much faster than DRAM. FLASH memories are relatives of EEPROM's (electrically eraseable programmable read-only memories). They are *very* slow compared with SRAM's and DRAM's, although they are still orders of magnitude faster than hard drives. They also suffer a relatively short read/write cycle life. In other words, after awhile you're going to wear out the card. I'm not sure what the lifespan is, but it is quite long. The PCMCIA bios also circulates data across the FLASH sectors to distribute the read/write usage. Robert -- -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 18:49:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24494; Mon, 10 Apr 95 18:49:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04115; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:35:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:35:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04103; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:35:47 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA19893; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:35:39 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id PAA22762; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:35:37 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504102235.PAA22762@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Flash Cards To: jokim@mit.edu Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9504101706.AA26119@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> from "John H. Kim" at Apr 10, 95 12:07:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > No, it's flash RAM. It's non-volatile -- doesn't need any power to Technically John, they don't call it "Flash RAM" because its not really "RAM" at all. The preferred method of referring to it these days seems to be "Flash Memory". ;) ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 18:56:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24938; Mon, 10 Apr 95 18:56:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04461; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:43:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:43:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04450; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:43:56 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA21034; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:43:53 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id PAA24054; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:43:51 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504102243.PAA24054@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Flash Cards To: george@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9504101442.ZM22743@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> from "Robert George" at Apr 10, 95 02:42:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > suffer a relatively short read/write cycle life. In other words, after awhi > you're going to wear out the card. I'm not sure what the lifespan is, but it > is quite long. The PCMCIA bios also circulates data across the FLASH sectors > to distribute the read/write usage. > > Robert All ofthe major vendors of Flash Memory cards (which are usually all built by either Intel or Sun (I think its Sun)) offer "Lifetime" warranties. Nobody has actually reported their flash card "wearing out" by normal use, so realistically speaking, one need not worry about the card's lifespan. It will be long obsolete before it has a chance to wear out--which isn't likely to be in yours or my lifetime. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 10 19:26:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27345; Mon, 10 Apr 95 19:26:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24015; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:38:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:38:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from ns9000.furman.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24005; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:38:42 -0400 From: Received: from by ns9000.furman.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.15/16.2) id AA049296800; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:46:40 -0400 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:45:59 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: Windows 95 Preview Program To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Item Subject: Message text Hello, all. I've ordered the Windows 95 Preview Program and hope to soon be installing it on my ThinkPad 750. I'll let everyone on the list know how it goes. As an OS/2 user, I probably won't be that impressed, but I'll stay optimistic and open-minded. In any event, I was wondering if anyone out there has had previous experience with Windows 95 betas on TP750s. I know that Microsoft doesn't like people talking about its beta software, but if anyone out there isn't under a license agreement that keeps them from talking about it, I would appreciate it if you could tell me about any install snafus. Specifically, does Win95 come with an appropriate inventory of drivers (video, sound, APM, PCMCIA, etc.) or must the functionality be patched together from the existing DOS/Windows drivers? Also, I would appreciate general comments on the stability and speed of Windows 95, particularly with a SLIP connection and lots of 16-bit Windows apps, as well as DOS games. Thank you. Wesley T. Dunaway Dunaway_Wesley/furman@furman.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 21:11:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04702; Mon, 10 Apr 95 21:11:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12271; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:02:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:01:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12261; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:01:54 -0400 Received: from by (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA24878 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 10:09:56 +0900 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 10:09:56 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199504110109.KAA24878@Pion> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755C, DockII (with Adaptec SCSI), and Linux - THANKYOU!!! To Brad Pepers and Derek Chan: I tried to email you both directly, but the mail bounced. So I am posting here.... I would like to thank you both very much for helping me get my Dock II working with Linux and SCSI. Your assistence and advice helped me greatly!!! Thank you. -Lee Hounshell lee@tcs.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 21:59:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07993; Mon, 10 Apr 95 21:59:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15292; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:49:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:49:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hoover.stanford.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15274; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:48:58 -0400 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #8660) id <01HP6N1D30BW0057KZ@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:50:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: Flash Card Info--Thanks To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HP6N1D30BY0057KZ@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" X-Vms-Cc: ANDRSN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Many thanks to all who explained about flash cards, initializing them, and so forth. It's been very, very helpful. Annelise From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 04:47:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04269; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:47:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12045; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 04:32:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 04:32:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dub-img-4.compuserve.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12033; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 04:32:27 -0400 Received: by dub-img-4.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.941228sam) id EAA12452; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 04:31:51 -0400 Date: 11 Apr 95 04:30:20 EDT From: Joachim Kuhn <100042.2161@compuserve.com> To: Subject: 755C/810MB and SCO dont work?? Message-Id: <950411083020_100042.2161_EHK130-1@CompuServe.COM> Hello, I want to install on my TP755C a 810MB Drive and want to run one Partition under SCO UNIX 3.2.4.2! [My340 MB drive works fine (140 mb dos and 200 mb SCO); I used the EFS130 from SCO to install it, to get a special /boot programm for the IBM-kind of disks] This does NOT work on the 810 MB, because there is "LBA" on the Diskcontroller to run 810 MB under MS-DOS(LBA makes 786 cyls instead of the 1571 and 32 heads instead of 16 for ms-dos, or something like this). Of course I know, that the root-filesystem must be within the first 1024 cyls. Who can help me? Joachim Kuhn Lindauerstr. 6 D-87439 Kempten Tel. +49 831 511351 Fax +49 831 511352 INTERNET: 100042.2161@compuserve.com - E-Mail from Joachim Kuhn, 100042,2161 - D-87439 Kempten, Germany - 11-Apr-1995, 10:10:24 MESZ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 11:55:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28185; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:55:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15150; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:36:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:36:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15134; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:35:58 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144278>; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:35:37 -0400 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: MWAVE and OS2 Message-Id: <95Apr11.113537edt.144278@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:35:20 -0400 Hi all, I've postponed installing Linux on my 755CE and installed OS/2 Warp over the weekend. Plenty of nagging problems with display drivers and so forth. I think I have solved most of them, but I have a persistent problem with getting MWAVE to run. When I try to engage the OS2 MWAVE-modem, it complains about a driver not being installed, although I distinctly did install the MWAVE software (twice, in fact). As a result, none of the DSP related stuff works on OS2. I also installed an MWAVE DOS/Windows/OS2 upgrade I got >from fto.pcco.ibm.com. MWAVE continues to work very well under DOS and Win, but not under OS2. If anyone has experience with getting MWAVE to run under OS2, I'd appreciate some tips. Another little question, the "selective install" box in my OS2 setup has disappeared, although the "selective uninstall" box remains. How do I get it back into my desktop again? I don't know where the executable is located. Overall, I like OS2, probably because it feels more like UNIX than the others; but the screen driver only supports 8-bit colour, so I find myself going back to Windows. My main reason for getting it was for the extras bundled in with it, but given the effort I've put in to it, I have a feeling I'd have been better off going straight to Linux. So it goes. Regards, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 12:09:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29251; Tue, 11 Apr 95 12:09:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16372; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:51:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:51:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dub-img-3.compuserve.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16357; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:51:14 -0400 Received: by dub-img-3.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.941228sam) id LAA23944; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:50:41 -0400 Date: 11 Apr 95 11:40:39 EDT From: Joachim Kuhn <100042.2161@compuserve.com> To: Subject: indroduce myself Message-Id: <950411154038_100042.2161_EHK85-1@CompuServe.COM> I am Joachim Kuhn from Germany an I am working with my thinkpads under SCO UNIX and MS-DOS. somtimes there are Problems with UNIX on the TP. Therefor I am looking for help here in this Forum. (I am developing commercial SW under SCO UNIX and Foxbase+ ; of cours on my TP) and: Sorry about my English! Joachim Kuhn Lindauerstr. 6 D-87439 Kempten Germany Tel. +49 831 511351 Fax +49 831 511352 INTERNET: 100042.2161@compuserve.com - E-Mail from Joachim Kuhn, 100042,2161 - D-87439 Kempten, Germany - 11-Apr-1995, 17:32:15 MESZ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 13:57:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06844; Tue, 11 Apr 95 13:57:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24873; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 13:44:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 13:44:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24861; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 13:44:39 -0400 Received: from phakt.usc.edu (whittle@phakt.usc.edu [128.125.253.144]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA03869 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 10:44:35 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by phakt.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id KAA20744 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 10:44:33 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504111744.KAA20744@phakt.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Flash Cards To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 10:44:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199504102243.PAA24054@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Apr 10, 95 03:43:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > All ofthe major vendors of Flash Memory cards (which are usually > all built by either Intel or Sun (I think its Sun)) offer "Lifetime" > warranties. Nobody has actually reported their flash card "wearing out" Pardon me as I comment on my own writing, but its not "Sun" that makes these, it is a company called "Sundisk". As I understand it, all flash cards are manufactured by either Intel or Sundisk and the rest of the companies who have their names on flash cards are private labeling them from one of these two (usually Sundisk--the Intel flash cards use a different method of recognizing the card which is much less popular than Sundisks' "ATA" type cards. The only major item that uses the Intel-type cards are the Apple Newtons). ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 14:12:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08731; Tue, 11 Apr 95 14:12:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25882; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:00:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:00:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25866; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:00:08 -0400 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA00759; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:59:24 MDT Date: Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:59:24 MDT From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9504111759.AA00759@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: MWAVE and OS2 > If anyone has experience with getting MWAVE to run under OS2, > I'd appreciate some tips. Sorry I can't help with the MWAVE problem...my lowly 360 wouldn't know what to do with an MWAVE chip it had one ;) (Now that I think about it, maybe this does help, as you should be consoled by the fact that you have a 755CE and not a 360C!) > Overall, I like OS2, probably because it feels more like UNIX than the others; > but the screen driver only supports 8-bit colour, so I find myself going back > to Windows. My main reason for getting it was for the extras bundled in with > it, but given the effort I've put in to it, I have a feeling I'd have been > better off going straight to Linux. So it goes. I got a kick outta this as a result of my experience with Linux here at work. I've been trying to help a fellow OS/2 user to set up Linux on one of his Gateway PC's, and it's been a struggle to (among other things) get the video configured correctly. Since we are predominately UNIX-oriented here, he figured it would be easier network this machine with Linux than with OS/2. Anyway, to just come right to the point, I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard him say "I would've been better off with OS/2." (If I had two dollars for every utterance, I too could probably afford a 755CE before very much longer!) This is not to say that one OS is superior to the other; rather, it's to point out that the grass always seems to be greener on the other side... Good luck with your MWAVE problems. -- Karl E. Yeanoplos Denver, CO. kyeanopl@den.mmc.com / key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 14:33:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09690; Tue, 11 Apr 95 14:33:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27193; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:16:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:16:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27180; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:16:30 -0400 Received: from bnme (bnme.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.152.138]) by cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA22741; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:15:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:15:14 -0400 Message-Id: <199504111815.OAA22741@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov> X-Sender: bnm@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1b10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Eugene Fiume , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: "Brooks N. McNeely" Subject: Re: MWAVE and OS2 At 11:35 AM 4/11/95 -0400, Eugene Fiume wrote: >Hi all, >I've postponed installing Linux on my 755CE and installed OS/2 Warp over the >weekend. Plenty of nagging problems with display drivers and so forth. I >think I have solved most of them, but I have a persistent problem with getting >MWAVE to run. When I try to engage the OS2 MWAVE-modem, it complains about >a driver not being installed, although I distinctly did install the MWAVE >software (twice, in fact). As a result, none of the DSP related stuff >works on OS2. I also installed an MWAVE DOS/Windows/OS2 upgrade I got >from fto.pcco.ibm.com. MWAVE continues to work very well under DOS and >Win, but not under OS2. If anyone has experience with getting MWAVE to >run under OS2, I'd appreciate some tips. > This week's PC Week (maybe InfoWorld) has an article talking about various glitches in high-end mobile units. I believe that this is where I saw a reference that stated that the OS/2 MWAVE drivers do not work on systems with memory >= 16M. According to what I read, IBM was expected to have a fix by the end of April. Of course I'm not sure of any of this. Brooks From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 15:27:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13665; Tue, 11 Apr 95 15:27:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01103; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 15:13:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 15:13:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01093; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 15:13:51 -0400 Received: from mail.hooked.net (webe.hooked.net [199.2.134.9]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA22431; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 12:08:46 -0700 Message-Id: <199504111908.MAA22431@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 12:09:02 -0700 To: , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: Windows 95 Preview Program At 04:45 PM 4/10/95 -0400, Dunaway_Wesley/furman@furman.edu wrote: >In any event, I was wondering if anyone out there has had previous >experience with Windows 95 betas on TP750s. I've been running win95 on my 755cs since last october.. sucks less than windows :) Personally, I like it more than os/2, but that's not an assessment of quality (I think os/2 is better) it's because I run windows apps. On a cosmetic note, I really like the look and feel of win95. >I would appreciate it if you could tell me about >any install snafus. The october build was a bit rough, but I just installed the preview build last week and it went smoothly. >Specifically, does Win95 come with an >appropriate inventory of drivers (video, sound, APM, PCMCIA, etc.) >or must the functionality be patched together from the existing >DOS/Windows drivers? I used the dos/windows drivers for audio/video, the pcmcia worked with win95 drivers. >Also, I would appreciate general comments on >the stability and speed of Windows 95, Speed seems the same as win3.1 to me, stability is better than 3.1, which is to say that I still crash, but not nearly as often. I should add that I run a lot of stuff all at once, and did run into resource problems in 3.1 that are gone in win95, so I'm happy with it if only for that. >particularly with a SLIP >connection The built-in SLIP/PPP is probably okay, but woefully underfeatured. There is no way to automate login scripts, etc. I use trumpet 2.0b, eudora 2.0.3, netscape 1.1b3, ewan 1.052 (telnet), ws_ftp 94.10.18, and all are very stable. Eudora does crash on exit about 10% of the time, but it did that for me in win3.1 as well. >and lots of 16-bit Windows apps, as well as DOS games. The only 16bit apps I've had a terrible time with are photoshop, and caligari's truespace. Both run, but crash frequently in consistant places. Other than that, stuff pretty much just runs. I've played doom, descent, xcom, heretic, civilization, system shock, etc, all with no problems.. or sound, of course.. :( ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 17:16:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21155; Tue, 11 Apr 95 17:16:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11536; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:01:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:01:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix3.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11514; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:01:34 -0400 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix3.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.10+PanixU1.0) id RAA22692; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:00:49 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:00:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Best source of DIMMs Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm in the market for DIMMs for my new 755cd. Are there any mail-order dealers that people could recommend? How much would 8MB cost? What about 16MB? Thanks! Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 17:40:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23214; Tue, 11 Apr 95 17:40:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13598; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:21:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:21:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13571; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:21:40 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA29189; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 16:21:37 -0500 Message-Id: <9504112121.AA29189@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 95 16:22:30 EDT From: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: MWAVE and OS2 On Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:35:20 -0400 you wrote: >Another little question, the "selective install" box in my OS2 setup >has disappeared, although the "selective uninstall" box remains. How >do I get it back into my desktop again? I don't know where the executable >is located. It's in (surprise!) \os2\install Executable name is (surprise!) install.exe. It should be in your path so you can just type 'install' to run it. _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 17:53:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24409; Tue, 11 Apr 95 17:53:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14523; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:33:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:33:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14507; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:33:50 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA09869 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:33:47 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA34437; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:34:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:34:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Prod. Announcements: Thinkpads Withdrawn Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Looks like someone forgot to proofread this announcement before it went out, there's no mention of what the replacement products are. I guess when the next batch of thinkpad's come out that there will be a new 3xx model (presumably a dx4/75), and the 7xx will be a Pentium 75 or 90. JH --------- Withdrawal: Selected IBM ThinkPad Systems and Mobile Features -- Replacements Available Announced on April 11, 1995 HARDWARE Announcement 195-111 Effective May 12, 1995, IBM will withdraw from marketing the products listed in the Withdrawn Products section. You can no longer obtain these products directly from IBM; however, you can obtain the products on an as-available basis through IBM authorized remarketers with an approved value add and/or IBM Authorized Personal Computer Dealers. The withdrawn products may also be obtained on an as-available basis by calling IBM PC Direct(1) at 800-IBM-2YOU (426-2968). Replacement Product Information: Refer to the Replacement Products section for a list of available replacement products. (1) Trademark of Ziff Communications Company and is used by IBM Corporation under license. WITHDRAWN PRODUCTS Top Bill Machine Order Part Description Type Model Number Number ThinkPad(R) 510Cs 2604 C2U 2604C2U ThinkPad 340 2610 I13 2610I13 84G6610 ThinkPad 340 2610 4UI 26104UI ThinkPad 355 2619 I15 2619I15 86G6105 ThinkPad 355Cs 2619 K20 2619K20 86G6106 ThinkPad 355Cs 2619 K25 2619K25 86G6107 ThinkPad 355C 2619 L50 2619L50 86G6247 ThinkPad 355C 2619 L55 2619L55 86G6248 ThinkPad 360 2620 OOD 2620OOD ThinkPad 360 2620 OOF 2620OOF ThinkPad 360Cs 2620 20D 262020D IBM Traveling MultiMedia 360Cs 2337290 2337290 ThinkPad 360P 2620 50D 262050D ThinkPad 360CSE 2620 80D 262080D ThinkPad 360CE 2620 90D 262690D ThinkPad 755Cs 9545 EOC 9545EOC 84G2327 ThinkPad 755Cs 9545 EOE 9545EOE 84G2328 ThinkPad 755Cs 9545 EOG 9545EOG 84G2329 ThinkPad 755Cs 9545 KOC 9545KOC 84G4156 ThinkPad 755Cs 9545 KOE 9545KOE 84G4159 ThinkPad 755Cs 9545 KOG 9545KOG 84G4162 ThinkPad 755C 9545 FOC 9545FOC 84G2324 ThinkPad 755C 9545 LOC 9545LOC 84G2325 REPLACEMENT PRODUCTS The withdrawn products have been replaced by the following products. Note: All optional features and accessories listed below are being withdrawn from all models to which they apply. Optional Features Feature Part Replaced Description Number Number By ThinkPad Carrying Case (for ThinkPad 750/755 systems and 3545 Dock I systems) 7679 66G3585 TPG8500 ThinkPad 40W Worldwide AC Adapter (for ThinkPads 750, 750C, 750Cs, 750P, 755C, 755CE, 755CSE, and 755C3138 49G2165 85G6680* Car Adapter (for ThinkPad 350/350C systems) 1726 6451168 None ThinkPad IC DRAM 16MB 3.5 V Memory (no parity) (for ThinkPad 500 and 53867 8189113 None ThinkPad DIMM 4MB 5 V Memory (with parity) (for ThinkPads 755C, 755Cs, and 755CE/CSE/CD) 1858 84G2152 92G7253 (OBI) ThinkPad DIMM 8MB 5 V Memory (with parity) (for ThinkPads 755C, 755Cs, and 755CE/CSE/CD) 3889 84G6539 92G7255 (OBI) ThinkPad DIMM 16MB 5 V Memory (with parity) (for ThinkPads 755C, 755Cs, and 755CE/CSE/CD) 1860 84G2153 92G7257 (OBI) ThinkPad 40W Travel AC Adapter (U.S. only) with retractable prongs (for ThinkPads 750, 750C, 750Cs, 750P, 755Cs, and0610C) 84G2148 85G6680* ThinkPad 170MB HDD (for ThinkPad 750, 750C, 750Cs, 750P, 755Cs, 755C, 755CE, 755CSE, 360, 360C, 360Cs, and 37629 66G2847 66G2849** (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation * 35W AC Adapter for these systems ** The 66G2849 340MB HDD can be used on all these systems. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 18:10:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25215; Tue, 11 Apr 95 18:10:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14705; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:36:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:36:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14683; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:36:13 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA10134 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:36:04 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA44270; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:36:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:36:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Product Announcement: Memory options Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Options by IBM: Low-Power IC DRAM and SO DIMM Memory Upgrades Announced on April 11, 1995 HARDWARE Announcement 195-113 +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | IN BRIEF . . . | | | | Cost-effective solution for upgrading to accommodate larger and | | more powerful operating systems and applications | | | | o IC DRAM Memory | | | | - Packaged on an 88-pin, credit card-sized, durable, | | stainless steel card | | | | - Designed to function in systems with slots conforming to | | JEIDA/JEDEC standard guidelines 1.0 and 2.0 | | | | o SO DIMM Memory | | | | - Packaged on a 72-pin, small outline, space-saving card | | | | - Designed to function in systems that support 16-, 32-, and | | 64-bit applications | | | | Systems supported: Thinkpad 755 | | | | For technical support: | | | | o Call HelpCenter(R) (800-426-7299) | | or | | o Request technical information via IBM Faxback (800-426-3395) | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ Four 70ns memory upgrade products are introduced for ThinkPad(R) 755 systems as part of the IBM family of low-power (LP) memory expansion cards: o 32MB IC DRAM Memory -- 70ns 5v LP Parity o 4MB SO DIMM Memory -- 70ns 5v LP Parity o 8MB SO DIMM Memory -- 70ns 5v LP Parity o 16MB SO DIMM Memory -- 70ns 5v LP Parity The IBM IC (integrated circuit) DRAM (direct random access memory) card is a credit card-sized memory expansion option designed for ThinkPad and other laptop or portable computer applications. This new option expands the current capacity of IC DRAM that plugs into a ThinkPad 755 system. The SO (small outline) DIMMs (dual inline memory modules) are also memory expansion options designed for ThinkPad 755 systems and packaged in a small space-saving card. These "SIMM-like" cards are replacements for ThinkPad Options. A memory card adapter (84G2151) is a prerequisite option for the SO DIMMs. With the prerequisite adapter, two SO DIMMs can be plugged in at one time. Planned Single Part Availability Unit Description Number Date Price 32MB IC DRAM Memory 70ns 5v LP Parity 92G7235 4/11/95 $2,129 4MB SO DIMM Memory 70ns 5v LP Parity 92G7253 4/11/95 309 8MB SO DIMM Memory 70ns 5v LP Parity 92G7255 6/23/95 695 16MB SO DIMM Memory 70ns 5v LP Parity 92G7257 6/23/95 1,095 (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation IBM 32MB IC DRAM MEMORY -- 70NS 5V LP PARITY (92G7235) The 32MB IC DRAM Memory (#2123, 92G7235) upgrade card offers 32MB of LP memory expansion for laptop and desktop systems. This credit card-sized IC DRAM card can expand the internal memory of a laptop or desktop by 32MB simply by inserting it into an IC DRAM slot. Expanded DRAM capabilities can enable higher application performance and more efficient system operation. As part of an IBM family of low-power memory expansion cards, the 32MB IC DRAM Memory card supports low-power applications and aids in the extension of a laptop battery's operational life between recharges, as compared to non-low-power memory. The card is packaged in IBM's durable, laser-welded, stainless steel package, and is quick and convenient to install. The 32MB IC DRAM Memory card is organized as 8M x 36 bits, supports parity, operates at 5 volts LP with an access time of 70ns, and is packaged in an 88-pin, credit card-sized, durable, stainless steel card. It is designed to function in systems with slots conforming to the JEIDA (Japan Electrical Industry Development Association)/JEDEC (Joint Electronic Device Engineering Council) industry standard guidelines 1.0 and 2.0 for DRAM cards. Product Positioning: The 32MB IC DRAM Memory card provides a logical growth path for system memory upgrades in IBM laptop systems. This upgrade is an expansion of the IBM family of low-power memory expansion options designed on a convenient and small form factor for laptops and portables with compatible slots. With larger and more powerful operating systems and applications becoming available, this new 32MB upgrade can provide you with a cost-effective solution. If only one upgrade slot is available on the system, you may want to evaluate upgrading to the maximum, based on immediate and projected future requirements. Availability Date: April 11, 1995 Technical Information Physical Specifications o Width: 54.1 mm (2.13 in.) o Depth: 3.5 mm (.138 in.) o Length: 85.8 mm (3.38 in.) o Weight: 42.6 gm (1.5 oz) Operating Environment o Temperature: 0(degs)C to 55(degs)C (32(degs)F to 131(degs) F) o Relative humidity: 95% maximum o Operating current: 1280mA maximum Agency Approvals: Meets required operating criteria. Original Country of Origin: Assembled in Canada. Components may be manufactured in the U.S.A., Japan, Korea, Germany, Italy, or Ireland. Note: This may vary through the life of the product. Hardware Requirements -- IBM Systems: The IBM 32MB IC DRAM Card 70ns, 88-pin, 5v LP, Parity is supported on the following platforms: Machine Description Type Model ThinkPad 755 9545 (All) E0C, E0E, E0G, K0C, K0E, K0G, F0C, F0E, F0G, L0C, L0E, L0G, 6BC, 6BD, 6BE, 7BC, 7BD, 7BE, 9BD, 9BE Hardware Requirements -- Non-IBM Systems o 70ns o 8M x 36 bits organization o Parity (5 volts) o 88-pin IC DRAM sockets compatible with the JEIDA/JEDEC industry standard guidelines 1.0 and 2.0 for DRAM cards Software Requirements o IBM DOS 5.02, or later, and Windows+ 3.1 o MS-DOS 5.0, or later, and Windows 3.1 o OS/2(R) 2.1, or later Compatibility: This product is designed for IBM laptop systems that support the JEIDA/JEDEC industry standard for IC DRAM Cards and the specifications as outlined in the Hardware Requirements section. Note: Some configurations may not be compatible. Limitations: An open compatible slot as specified in the Hardware Requirements section is required. Planning Information Cable Orders Required: No Installation Time: 15 minutes (average) Packaging: One box Shipment Group o IBM 32MB IC DRAM Upgrade 70ns 5v LP Parity o Installation and User's Guide o Registration Card Note: An Options by IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual Supplement (S83G-8275) is available in support of this product. Security, Auditability and Control This product uses the security and auditability features of the host hardware. User management is responsible for evaluation, selection, and implementation of security features, administrative procedures, and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. Terms and Conditions Field Installable Y Customer Setup Y Warranty: Period 3 Years Service Support Y Service Type CCE Maintenance Agreement N All other terms and conditions are the same as those applicable to the IBM machine type in which the feature is installed. Help and Service Information During the warranty period, technical support is available (800-426-7299) 24 hours a day, seven days a week, for answering any questions about your new IBM option. If you need warranty service, return or exchange is available. In addition, if your IBM option is installed in an IBM computer, you may be entitled to service at your location. Your technical support representative can help you determine the best alternative. Charges Single Part Unit Description Number Price* 32MB IC DRAM 5v Parity 92G7235 $2,129 * The single unit price reflects the purchase price for a single unit acquired from IBM, and is subject to change without notice. This price is for information purposes only, and shall not limit, in any way, the remarketer's ability to set prices for this IBM product. IBM 4MB SO DIMM MEMORY -- 70NS 5V LP PARITY (92G7253) The 4MB SO DIMM Memory (#3972, 92G7253) upgrade card offers 4MB of low-power memory expansion to laptop systems. This small outline, space-saving, 72-pin DIMM can expand the internal memory of a laptop by 4MB simply by inserting it into an SO DIMM slot on the prerequisite card (84G2151) that plugs into an IC DRAM socket. Expanded memory capabilities can enable higher application performance and more efficient system operation. As part of an IBM family of low-power memory expansion cards, the 4MB SO DIMM Memory card supports low-power applications and aids in the extension of a laptop battery's operational life between recharges, as compared to non-low-power memory. The cards are packaged in a small form approximately 2.35-inches long by 1-inch high with 72-pin gold-plated contacts on a staggered, dual row. The 4MB SO DIMM Memory card is organized as 1M x 36 bits, supports parity, operates at 5 volts LP with an access time of 70ns, and is packaged on a 72-pin, small outline, space-saving card. It is designed to function in systems that support 16-, 32-, and 64-bit applications. Product Positioning: The 4MB SO DIMM Memory card provides a logical growth path for system memory upgrades in IBM laptop systems. This upgrade is part of an IBM family of low-power memory expansion options designed on a small form factor for laptops and portables with compatible slots. With larger and more powerful operating systems and applications becoming available, the 4MB upgrade can provide you with a cost-effective solution. Using the prerequisite card (84G2151), two SO DIMM cards can be plugged into this card. You may want to evaluate upgrading to the maximum, based on immediate and projected future requirements. Availability Date: April 11, 1995 Technical Information Physical Specifications o Width: 25.4 mm (1.00 in.) o Depth: 3.8 mm (.15 in.) o Length: 59.69 mm (2.35 in.) o Weight: 14.2 gm (0.5 oz) Operating Environment o Temperature: 0(degs)C to 55(degs)C (32(degs)F to 131(degs)F) o Relative humidity: 95% maximum o Operating current: 640mA maximum Agency Approvals: Meets required operating criteria. Original Country of Origin: Assembled in Canada. Components may be manufactured in the U.S.A., Japan, Korea, Germany, Italy, or Ireland. Note: This may vary through the life of the product. Hardware Requirements -- IBM Systems: The IBM 4MB SO DIMM Card 70ns, 72-pin, 5v LP Parity is supported on the following platforms: Machine Description Type Model ThinkPad 755 9545 (All) E0C, E0E, E0G, K0C, K0E, K0G, F0C, F0E, F0G, L0C, L0E, L0G, 6BC, 6BD, 6BE, 7BC, 7BD, 7BE, 9BD, 9BE Note: The prerequisite card (84G2151) must be installed in the ThinkPad 755. Hardware Requirements -- Non-IBM Systems o 70ns o 1M x 36 bits organization o Parity (5 volts) o 72-pin SO DIMM sockets compatible with staggered, dual-row mating Software Requirements o IBM DOS 5.02, or later, and Windows 3.1 o MS-DOS 5.0, or later, and Windows 3.1 o OS/2 2.1, or later Compatibility: This product is designed for IBM laptop systems that support SO DIMM Cards and the specifications as outlined in the Hardware Requirements section. Note: Some configurations may not be compatible. Limitations: An open compatible slot as specified in the Hardware Requirements section is required. Planning Information Cable Orders Required: No Installation Time: 15 minutes (average) Packaging: One box Shipment Group o IBM 4MB SO DIMM Upgrade 70ns 5v LP Parity o Installation and User's Guide o Registration Card Note: An Options by IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual Supplement (S83G-8275) is available in support of this product. Security, Auditability and Control This product uses the security and auditability features of the host hardware. User management is responsible for evaluation, selection, and implementation of security features, administrative procedures, and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. Terms and Conditions Field Installable Y Customer Setup Y Warranty: Period 3 Years Service Support CCE Service Type CCE Maintenance Agreement N All other terms and conditions are the same as those applicable to the IBM machine type in which the feature is installed. Help and Service Information During the warranty period, technical support is available (800-426-7299) 24 hours a day, seven days a week, for answering any questions about your new IBM option. If you need warranty service, return or exchange is available. In addition, if your IBM option is installed in an IBM computer, you may be entitled to service at your location. Your technical support representative can help you determine the best alternative. Charges Single Part Unit Description Number Price* 4MB SO DIMM 5v Parity 92G7253 $309 * The single unit price reflects the purchase price for a single unit acquired from IBM, and is subject to change without notice. This price is for information purposes only, and shall not limit, in any way, the remarketer's ability to set prices for this IBM product. IBM 8MB SO DIMM MEMORY -- 70NS 5V LP PARITY (92G7255) The 8MB SO DIMM Memory (#4243, 92G7255) upgrade card offers 8MB of low-power memory expansion to laptop systems. This small outline, space-saving, 72-pin DIMM can expand the internal memory of a laptop by 8MB simply by inserting it into an SO DIMM slot on the prerequisite card (84G2151) that plugs into an IC DRAM socket. Expanded memory capabilities can enable higher application performance and more efficient system operation. As part of an IBM family of low-power memory expansion cards, the 8MB SO DIMM Memory card supports low-power applications and aids in the extension of a laptop battery's operational life between recharges, as compared to non-low-power memory. The cards are packaged in a small form approximately 2.35-inches long by 1-inch high with 72-pin, gold-plated contacts on a staggered, dual row. The 8MB SO DIMM Memory card is organized as 2M x 36 bits, supports parity, operates at 5 volts LP with an access time of 70ns, and is packaged on a 72-pin, small outline, space-saving card. It is designed to function in systems that support 16-, 32-, and 64-bit applications. Product Positioning: The 8MB SO DIMM Memory card provides a logical growth path for system memory upgrades in IBM laptop systems. This upgrade is part of an IBM family of low-power memory expansion options designed on a small form factor for laptops and portables with compatible slots. With larger and more powerful operating systems and applications becoming available, the 8MB upgrade can provide you with a cost-effective solution. Using the prerequisite card (84G2151), two SO DIMM cards can be plugged into this card. You may want to evaluate upgrading to the maximum, based on immediate and projected future requirements. Planned Availability Date: June 23, 1995 Technical Information Physical Specifications o Width: 25.4 mm (1.00 in.) o Depth: 3.8 mm (.15 in.) o Length: 59.69 mm (2.35 in.) o Weight: 28.4 gm (1.0 oz) Operating Environment o Temperature: 0(degs)C to 55(degs)C (32(degs)F to 131(degs)F) o Relative humidity: 95% maximum o Operating current: 640mA maximum Agency Approvals: Meets required operating criteria. Original Country of Origin: Assembled in Canada. Components may be manufactured in the U.S.A., Japan, Korea, Germany, Italy, or Ireland. Note: This may vary through the life of the product. Hardware Requirements -- IBM Systems: The IBM 8MB SO DIMM Card 70ns, 72-pin, 5v LP Parity is supported on the following platforms: Machine Description Type Model ThinkPad 755 9545 (All) E0C, E0E, E0G, K0C, K0E, K0G, F0C, F0E, F0G, L0C, L0E, L0G, 6BC, 6BD, 6BE, 7BC, 7BD, 7BE, 9BD, 9BE Note: The prerequisite card (84G2151) must to be installed in the ThinkPad 755. Hardware Requirements -- Non-IBM Systems o 70ns o 1M x 36 bits organization o Parity (5 volts) o 72-pin SO DIMM sockets compatible with staggered, dual-row mating Software Requirements o IBM DOS 5.02, or later, and Windows 3.1 o MS-DOS 5.0, or later, and Windows 3.1 o OS/2 2.1, or later Compatibility: This product is designed for IBM laptop systems that support SO DIMM Cards and the specifications as outlined in the Hardware Requirements section. Note: Some configurations may not be compatible. Limitations: An open compatible slot as specified in the Hardware Requirements section is required. Planning Information Cable Orders Required: No Installation Time: 15 minutes (average) Packaging: One box Shipment Group o IBM 8MB SO DIMM Upgrade 70ns 5v LP Parity o Installation and User's Guide o Registration Card Note: An Options by IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual Supplement (S83G-8275) is available in support of this product. Security, Auditability and Control This product uses the security and auditability features of the host hardware. User management is responsible for evaluation, selection, and implementation of security features, administrative procedures, and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. Terms and Conditions Field Installable Y Customer Setup Y Warranty: Period 3 Years Service Support CCE Service Type CCE Maintenance Agreement N All other terms and conditions are the same as those applicable to the IBM machine type in which the feature is installed. Help and Service Information During the warranty period, technical support is available (800-426-7299) 24 hours a day, seven days a week, for answering any questions about your new IBM option. If you need warranty service, return or exchange is available. In addition, if your IBM option is installed in an IBM computer, you may be entitled to service at your location. Your technical support representative can help you determine the best alternative. Charges Single Part Unit Description Number Price* 8MB SO DIMM 5v Parity 92G7255 $695 * The single unit price reflects the purchase price for a single unit acquired from IBM, and is subject to change without notice. This price is for information purposes only, and shall not limit, in any way, the remarketer's ability to set prices for this IBM product. IBM 16MB SO DIMM MEMORY -- 70NS 5V LP PARITY (92G7257) The 16MB SO DIMM Memory (#3974, 92G7257) upgrade card offers 16MB of low-power memory expansion to laptop systems. This small outline, space-saving, 72-pin DIMM can expand the internal memory of a laptop by 16MB simply by inserting it into an SO DIMM slot on the prerequisite card (84G2151) that plugs into an IC DRAM socket. Expanded memory capabilities can enable higher application performance and more efficient system operation. As part of an IBM family of low-power memory expansion cards, the 16MB SO DIMM Memory card supports low-power applications and aids in the extension of a laptop battery's operational life between recharges, as compared to non-low-power memory. The cards are packaged in a small form approximately 2.35-inches long by 1-inch high with 72-pin, gold-plated contacts on a staggered, dual row. The 16MB SO DIMM Memory card is organized as 4M x 36 bits, supports parity, operates at 5 volts LP with an access time of 70ns, and is packaged on a 72-pin, small outline, space-saving card. It is designed to function in systems that support 16-, 32-, and 64-bit applications. Product Positioning: The 16MB SO DIMM Memory card provides a logical growth path for system memory upgrades in IBM laptop systems. This upgrade is part of an IBM family of low-power memory expansion options designed on a small form factor for laptops and portables with compatible slots. With larger and more powerful operating systems and applications becoming available, the 16MB upgrade can provide you with a cost-effective solution. Using the prerequisite card (84G2151), two SO DIMM cards can be plugged into this card. You may want to evaluate upgrading to the maximum, based on immediate and projected future requirements. Planned Availability Date: June 23, 1995 Technical Information Physical Specifications o Width: 25.4 mm (1.00 in.) o Depth: 3.8 mm (.15 in.) o Length: 59.69 mm (2.35 in.) o Weight: 14.2 gm (0.5 oz) Operating Environment o Temperature: 0(degs)C to 55(degs)C (32(degs)F to 131(degs)F) o Relative humidity: 95% maximum o Operating current: 640mA maximum Agency Approvals: Meets required operating criteria. Original Country of Origin: Assembled in Canada. Components may be manufactured in the U.S.A., Japan, Korea, Germany, Italy, or Ireland. Note: This may vary through the life of the product. Hardware Requirements -- IBM Systems: The IBM 16MB SO DIMM Card 70ns, 72-pin, 5v LP Parity is supported on the following platforms: Machine Description Type Model ThinkPad 755 9545 (All) E0C, E0E, E0G, K0C, K0E, K0G, F0C, F0E, F0G, L0C, L0E, L0G, 6BC, 6BD, 6BE, 7BC, 7BD, 7BE, 9BD, 9BE Hardware Requirements -- Non-IBM Systems o 70ns o 8M x 36 bits organization o Parity (5 volts) o 88-pin IC DRAM sockets compatible with the JEIDA/JEDEC industry standard guidelines 1.0 and 2.0 for DRAM cards Software Requirements o IBM DOS 5.02, or later, and Windows 3.1 o MS-DOS 5.0, or later, and Windows 3.1 o OS/2 2.1, or later Compatibility: This product is designed for IBM laptop systems that support the JEIDA/JEDEC industry standard for IC DRAM Cards and the specifications as outlined in the Hardware Requirements section. Note: Some configurations may not be compatible. Limitations: An open compatible slot as specified in the Hardware Requirements section is required. Planning Information Cable Orders Required: No Installation Time: 15 minutes (average) Packaging: One box Shipment Group o IBM 16MB SO DIMM Upgrade 70ns 5v LP Parity o Installation and User's Guide o Registration Card Note: An Options by IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual Supplement (S83G-8275) is available in support of this product. Security, Auditability and Control This product uses the security and auditability features of the host hardware. User management is responsible for evaluation, selection, and implementation of security features, administrative procedures, and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. Terms and Conditions Field Installable Y Customer Setup Y Warranty: Period 3 Years Service Support Y Service Type CCE Maintenance Agreement N All other terms and conditions are the same as those applicable to the IBM machine type in which the feature is installed. Help and Service Information During the warranty period, technical support is available (800-426-7299) 24 hours a day, seven days a week, for answering any questions about your new IBM option. If you need warranty service, return or exchange is available. In addition, if your IBM option is installed in an IBM computer, you may be entitled to service at your location. Your technical support representative can help you determine the best alternative. Charges Single Part Unit Description Number Price* 16MB SO DIMM 5v Parity 92G7257 $1,095 * The single unit price reflects the purchase price for a single unit acquired from IBM, and is subject to change without notice. This price is for information purposes only, and shall not limit, in any way, the remarketer's ability to set prices for this IBM product. + Trademark of Microsoft Corporation From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 20:50:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07084; Tue, 11 Apr 95 20:50:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26234; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 20:42:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 20:42:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc7.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26224; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 20:42:24 -0400 From: Message-Id: <9504120042.AA29818@husc7.harvard.edu> Subject: C-A-D doesn't work w/ new 1.2.4 Linux kernel w/ APM! To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 20:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Cc: chan4@CS.UTK.EDU (derek chan) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know what the problem is? Grrr...... I applied the APM patches to the kernel. Anyone also know if there's a sound card driver available? Thanks From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 01:57:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28157; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:57:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15228; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 01:46:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 01:46:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pelican.cit.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15215; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 01:46:00 -0400 Received: by pelican.cit.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03chaos) id AA22452; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 01:45:53 -0400 From: rdc@pelican.cit.cornell.edu (Bob Cowles) Message-Id: <9504120545.AA22452@pelican.cit.cornell.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755Cs hanging up after hibernation In-Reply-To: (Your message of Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:56:43 N.) <9504101448.AA19726@gl.ciw.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:45:53 -0500 I have spent some amount of time messing with the different available drivers and (tentatively) have found that using the Warp drivers for PCMCIA functions with the addition of $ICPMOS2.SYS (the power management support driver) from the Thinkpad drivers allows me to use the cards after hibernation without having to pop them out and back in again. Anyone else want to try this and report on their results? ----------------------- Bob Cowles (aka Dr. Chaos) || finger drchaos@pelican.cit.cornell.edu rdc1@cornell.edu || for contents of latest Chaos Corner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 04:34:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09628; Wed, 12 Apr 95 04:34:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24676; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 04:23:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 04:22:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from arl-img-3.compuserve.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24666; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 04:22:57 -0400 Received: by arl-img-3.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.941228sam) id EAA15846; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 04:22:25 -0400 Date: 12 Apr 95 04:20:42 EDT From: Joachim Kuhn <100042.2161@compuserve.com> To: Subject: I am new here Message-Id: <950412082041_100042.2161_EHK77-1@CompuServe.COM> I am Joachim Kuhn from Germany an I am working with my thinkpads under SCO UNIX and MS-DOS. Somtimes there are Problems with UNIX on the TP. Therefor I am looking for help here in this Forum/Mail-list. (I am developing commercial SW under SCO UNIX and Foxbase+ ; of course on my TP) and: Sorry about my English! Joachim Kuhn Lindauerstr. 6 D-87439 Kempten Germany Tel. +49 831 511351 Fax +49 831 511352 INTERNET: 100042.2161@compuserve.com - E-Mail from Joachim Kuhn, 100042,2161 - D-87439 Kempten, Germany - 12-Apr-1995, 10:15:45 MESZ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 05:23:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12000; Wed, 12 Apr 95 05:23:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA27349; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 05:10:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 05:10:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA27329; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 05:10:52 -0400 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id aa25119; 12 Apr 95 10:10 GMT-60:00 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa29936; 12 Apr 95 10:10 GMT-60:00 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: elf@dgp.toronto.edu Subject: Re: MWAVE and OS2 Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:07:26 BST Message-Id: <9504121007.aa14236@hipass.filct.com> MWAVE to run. When I try to engage the OS2 MWAVE-modem, it complains about a driver not being installed, although I distinctly did install the MWAVE software (twice, in fact). As a result, none of the DSP related stuff works on OS2. I also installed an MWAVE DOS/Windows/OS2 upgrade I got from fto.pcco.ibm.com. MWAVE continues to work very well under DOS and Win, but not under OS2. If anyone has experience with getting MWAVE to run under OS2, I'd appreciate some tips. I had problems with MWAVE with Warp and was told by IBM there was a fix (which they have promised to send me). I'll let you know what happens. Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 10:59:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00445; Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:59:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24850; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:46:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:46:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24828; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:46:30 -0400 Received: from poncho-slip9.cis.brown.edu (poncho-slip9.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.46]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA05678 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:48:42 -0400 Message-Id: <199504121448.KAA05678@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:45:42 -0400 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Adaptec SlimSCSI on 750C Just bought an Adaptec SlimSCSI, and try to install it on my 750C running EzPlay. No luck! EZPlay recognizes the card but the APSI2DOS.SYS driver won't load. I have placed the APSI2DOS.SYS before the autoconfigurator. Can someone give me some suggestions? Are there extra parameters require? Thanks. <<<<<<<<<< WAI-SHAN LAM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail to: <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OR <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<72124.2644@CompuServe.Com>>>>>>>>> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 10:59:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00447; Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:59:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24521; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:43:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:43:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from icebox.mfltd.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24510; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:43:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (jfid@localhost) by icebox.mfltd.co.uk (8.6.4/8.6.4) id PAA05238 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 15:43:09 +0100 Message-Id: <199504121443.PAA05238@icebox.mfltd.co.uk> From: jfid@mfltd.co.uk (James Fidell) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 15:43:08 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP755, Dock I, Linux and SCSI CDROM problem... I'm trying to get Linux to recognise a SCSI CD-ROM drive attached to the docking station on my 755. The kernel (1.2.4) recognises the TMC-8xx card without any problems now I've stopped the memory clash with the ethernet card, but when the driver initialises, it finds the CD-ROM drive at every SCSI address apart from the one it's at. Any suggestions as to the reason for this, or how to fix it ? Thanks, James. -- "Yield to temptation -- | jfid@mfltd.co.uk it may not pass your way again" | http://www.mfltd.co.uk/~jfid/ | - Lazarus Long | James Fidell From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 12:52:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13018; Wed, 12 Apr 95 12:52:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05477; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:33:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:33:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mx01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05464; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:33:35 -0400 Received: by mx01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA249172; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:32:53 GMT Received: from slip145-11.ut.nl.ibm.net(129.37.145.11) by mx01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma8C4De7; Wed Apr 12 16:31:53 1995 Received: by slip145-11.ut.nl.ibm.net (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.13B/1.0um) id AA0021; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:30:18 -0700 Message-Id: <9504130130.AA0021@slip145-11.ut.nl.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:20:42 -0100 From: "Alberto Enna" To: "Michael MacDonald" , "Thinkpad mailing list" Reply-To: "Alberto Enna" Subject: Re: Finally got my 755cd! X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <15_58_1_797725243> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: On Fri, 07 Apr 95 19:22:29 -0400 "Michael MacDonald" wrote: > After 6.2 months of waiting, IBM fianlly delivered the 755cd that I > ordered back in November. I hate to say this, but it was worth the wait. Me too are waiting for the TP 755CD ordered here in Italy last December. Does anybody know where (and what) is the problem...? Is it normal to wait for so long...? Cheers! Alberto Enna 2:335/12.0@fidonet.org 81:439/4.0@os2net.ftn aenna@ibm.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 13:26:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14798; Wed, 12 Apr 95 13:26:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07792; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:08:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:08:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07780; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:08:06 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05625; Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:06:48 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id KAA01186; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:06:41 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9504121006.ZM1184@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:06:40 -0700 In-Reply-To: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) "Re: Windows 95 Preview Program" (Apr 11, 12:09pm) References: <199504111908.MAA22431@mom.hooked.net> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Windows 95 "flawed" Cc: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose), furman@furman.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Apr 11, 12:09pm, jesse montrose wrote: > Subject: Re: Windows 95 Preview Program > At 04:45 PM 4/10/95 -0400, Dunaway_Wesley/furman@furman.edu wrote: > >In any event, I was wondering if anyone out there has had previous > >experience with Windows 95 betas on TP750s. > I've been running win95 on my 755cs since last october.. sucks less than > windows :) Jesse, I'm surprised to find someone who actually *likes* Windows '95. The reviews have been horrible: >>> SAN MATEO, CALIFORNIA, U.S.A., 1995 MAR 27 (NB) -- A weekly >>> computer publication says it has found Windows 95, Microsoft >>> Corp.'s (NASDAQ: MSFT) next generation combination user interface >>> and operating system, "flawed" to the point it will be of use only >>> to home users. >>> >>> According to Nicholas Petreley, executive editor of >>> reviews at InfoWorld, the long-awaited and several-times-delayed >>> Windows 95 has such severe problems that its functionality is >>> limited for business use. The InfoWorld editor said the problem is >>> that Windows 95 runs out of system resources when running >>> multi-threaded 32-bit applications. >>> >>> If the magazine is correct, that could be a serious >>> obstacle to widespread corporate adoption of the program, which is >>> now scheduled to launch in August 1995, since the ability to run >>> 32-bit applications is touted as one of its major advantages. >>> >>> In an interview with Newsbytes Petreley called Windows 95 "a >>> disaster" if it ships in its current form. "I fear that unless >>> Microsoft goes back to the drawing board on this operating system, >>> only light home users will get anything out of it," writes Petreley >>> in this week's issue of the publication. >>> >>> The problem, according to the editor, is that Windows 95 is a >>> 32-bit wraparound on top of Windows 3.1., so Microsoft is running >>> into a lot of the limitations of Windows 3.1 due to the company's >>> desire to make Windows 95 backwards-compatible. "They managed to >>> move some of the information out of the (graphics) GDI heap into the >>> 32-bit address base but they haven't really done it successfully >>> with the user heap, so they are keeping this thing called the >>> Windows class, which is really the basic building block of all >>> Windows objects and windows. That information is still being kept >>> in the 64K user heap in conventional memory." >>> >>> Petreley told Newsbytes the result of that architecture is that >>> when you place a folder-oriented multi-threaded desktop on top of >>> it and want to open a number of different folders, you fill up that >>> relatively small user heap very rapidly. "I ran out of resources >>> just running Microsoft Word and the Microsoft Network at the same >>> time," he told Newsbytes. Petreley said he was running Windows 95 on >>> a Pentium-based PC with 32 megabytes (MB) of memory. >>> >>> Petreley said Microsoft hand-delivered a fix to InfoWorld that moved >>> the Windows class out of the user heap and into the 32-bit address >>> space. "But it breaks things left and right, including 32-bit >>> applications. Microsoft Network crashes and Word for Windows >>> crashes," he said. >>> >>> The Microsoft Press Computer Dictionary Second Edition defines the >>> heap as "a portion of memory reserved for a program to use for the >>> temporary storage of data structures whose existence or size cannot >>> be determined until the program is running. The program can request >>> free memory from the heap to hold such elements, use it as >>> necessary, and later free the memory." >>> >>> A call to Microsoft in an attempt get that company's comment on this >>> story had not been returned by press deadline. >>> >>> (Jim Mallory/19950327/Press contact: Microsoft, 206-882-8080; >>> Infoworld, 415-572-7341) >> > -- -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 13:33:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15513; Wed, 12 Apr 95 13:33:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08563; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:18:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:18:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08552; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:18:47 -0400 Received: from mail.hooked.net (tuna.hooked.net [199.2.134.11]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA01961; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:18:38 -0700 Message-Id: <199504121718.KAA01961@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:19:06 -0700 To: "Robert George" , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: Windows 95 "flawed" Cc: furman@furman.edu At 10:06 AM 4/12/95 -0700, Robert George wrote: >On Apr 11, 12:09pm, jesse montrose wrote: >> Subject: Re: Windows 95 Preview Program >> At 04:45 PM 4/10/95 -0400, Dunaway_Wesley/furman@furman.edu wrote: >> >In any event, I was wondering if anyone out there has had previous >> >experience with Windows 95 betas on TP750s. >> I've been running win95 on my 755cs since last october.. sucks less than >> windows :) > >Jesse, > > I'm surprised to find someone who actually *likes* Windows '95. The >reviews have been horrible: Now wait a minute.. "sucks less than windows" is hardly translatable to "likes" :) However, I do run many apps at once, and have not run into the problem reported. A typical set of programs for me to have loaded and running (actively switching between them): netscape photoshop 3.0 truespace visual c++ plus several telnet windows, and a few dos windows and ftp sessions. I can load all these and run for hours without crashing (as long as I steer clear of the photoshop and truespace crash bugs :)) which I just couldn't do in win 3.1. I'm not quick to leap to windows' defense, it's not a very elegant solution, and better solutions exist, but since all the apps are written for it.. If you use win3.1 now, win95 is a compelling upgrade, if you use another OS, that means your OS has the apps you need, or you can live with the emulation, either way, I wouldn't recommend switching to windows because of win95. [review snipped] ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 14:52:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00203; Wed, 12 Apr 95 14:52:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13829; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 14:30:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 14:30:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13799; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 14:30:38 -0400 Received: from hp.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA20532; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:29:47 -0600 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.15//ident-1.0) id AA213231742; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:35:42 -0600 Message-Id: <199504121835.AA213231742@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: TP755, Dock I, Linux and SCSI CDROM problem... To: jfid@mfltd.co.uk (James Fidell) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:35:41 -0600 (MDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199504121443.PAA05238@icebox.mfltd.co.uk> from "James Fidell" at Apr 12, 95 03:43:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm trying to get Linux to recognise a SCSI CD-ROM drive attached to the > docking station on my 755. The kernel (1.2.4) recognises the TMC-8xx > card without any problems now I've stopped the memory clash with the > ethernet card, but when the driver initialises, it finds the CD-ROM > drive at every SCSI address apart from the one it's at. > > Any suggestions as to the reason for this, or how to fix it ? The problem is that some SCSI devices respond on all LUNs when they should only respond on one. Some other devices also lock up when they are polled on anything but LUN 0. Linux has a list of these bad devices in drivers/scsi/scsi.c. The list is called blacklist[]. All you need to do is write down the identifying info that Linux is showing on the screen for the device (should be three strings with the manafacturer, model, and revision). Then add that to the blacklist[] in scsi.c and recompile your kernel. You should send the info to someone on the linux scsi development team (perhaps Eric Youngdale - ericy@cais.com) so that it gets included in future Linux releases. That should do it! > Thanks, > James. +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 16:31:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14919; Wed, 12 Apr 95 16:31:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22149; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:08:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:08:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22138; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:08:40 -0400 Received: from p17.slip.net (sfsp103.slip.net [204.160.88.151]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA17650 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:08:24 -0700 Message-Id: <199504122008.NAA17650@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:08:53 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: powerpc thinkpad A few highlights from the pcweek article on this neat-looking box: powerpc 603/66 2x cdrom (mounted better, in the middle, integrated instead of slapped on like 755cd) motion video adapter optional integrated digital video camera (mounted on the top, removable) 10.4 usual 'c' type screen 7.9 lbs external floppy (can go in cd bay) 16 bit audio 810 drive no price listed, but there is a picture. Finally has a wrist rest! the speakers are down in front, two of them looks as though they moved the FN key (a boon in my book) so the ctrl key is to the far left, then a space, then the alt key. can't quite figure out how the semi-circular camera mount works, but in the picture, it's protruding up a few inches, and has a couple other things on it too.. Runs nt and aix, with os/2 on the way.. ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 17:08:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16777; Wed, 12 Apr 95 17:08:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26431; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:50:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:50:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from icebox.mfltd.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26400; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:49:58 -0400 Received: from localhost (jfid@localhost) by icebox.mfltd.co.uk (8.6.4/8.6.4) id VAA11441; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 21:49:49 +0100 Message-Id: <199504122049.VAA11441@icebox.mfltd.co.uk> From: jfid@mfltd.co.uk (James Fidell) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 21:49:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: Brad Pepers's note of Apr 12, 12:35pm To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755, Dock I, Linux and SCSI CDROM problem... Cc: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Brad Pepers wrote: > > I'm trying to get Linux to recognise a SCSI CD-ROM drive attached to the > > docking station on my 755. The kernel (1.2.4) recognises the TMC-8xx > > card without any problems now I've stopped the memory clash with the > > ethernet card, but when the driver initialises, it finds the CD-ROM > > drive at every SCSI address apart from the one it's at. > > > > Any suggestions as to the reason for this, or how to fix it ? > > The problem is that some SCSI devices respond on all LUNs when they > should only respond on one. Some other devices also lock up when > they are polled on anything but LUN 0. Linux has a list of these > bad devices in drivers/scsi/scsi.c. The list is called blacklist[]. > All you need to do is write down the identifying info that Linux > is showing on the screen for the device (should be three strings > with the manafacturer, model, and revision). Then add that to the > blacklist[] in scsi.c and recompile your kernel. You should send > the info to someone on the linux scsi development team (perhaps > Eric Youngdale - ericy@cais.com) so that it gets included in future > Linux releases. That's not what I'm seeing, though -- I get messages saying that the CDROM driver is found at scsi0, id X, LUN 0, where X is 0 thru' 7 excluding 6, which is the actual SCSI id of the CD-ROM drive. I can't help thinking about the floppy disk change sense line and it's inverted logic and wondering if there is something similar with the SCSI host adaptor. James. -- "Yield to temptation -- | jfid@mfltd.co.uk it may not pass your way again" | http://www.mfltd.co.uk/~jfid/ | - Lazarus Long | James Fidell From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 19:06:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23443; Wed, 12 Apr 95 19:06:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07851; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 18:45:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 18:45:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07776; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 18:45:18 -0400 Received: from hp.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA23526; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:44:21 -0600 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.15//ident-1.0) id AA206297017; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:50:17 -0600 Message-Id: <199504122250.AA206297017@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: TP755, Dock I, Linux and SCSI CDROM problem... To: jfid@mfltd.co.uk (James Fidell) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:50:16 -0600 (MDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, pepersb@cuug.ab.ca In-Reply-To: <199504122049.VAA11441@icebox.mfltd.co.uk> from "James Fidell" at Apr 12, 95 09:49:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Brad Pepers wrote: > > > > I'm trying to get Linux to recognise a SCSI CD-ROM drive attached to the > > > docking station on my 755. The kernel (1.2.4) recognises the TMC-8xx > > > card without any problems now I've stopped the memory clash with the > > > ethernet card, but when the driver initialises, it finds the CD-ROM > > > drive at every SCSI address apart from the one it's at. > > > > > > Any suggestions as to the reason for this, or how to fix it ? > > > > The problem is that some SCSI devices respond on all LUNs when they > > should only respond on one. Some other devices also lock up when > > they are polled on anything but LUN 0. Linux has a list of these > > bad devices in drivers/scsi/scsi.c. The list is called blacklist[]. > > All you need to do is write down the identifying info that Linux > > is showing on the screen for the device (should be three strings > > with the manafacturer, model, and revision). Then add that to the > > blacklist[] in scsi.c and recompile your kernel. You should send > > the info to someone on the linux scsi development team (perhaps > > Eric Youngdale - ericy@cais.com) so that it gets included in future > > Linux releases. > > That's not what I'm seeing, though -- I get messages saying that the > CDROM driver is found at scsi0, id X, LUN 0, where X is 0 thru' 7 > excluding 6, which is the actual SCSI id of the CD-ROM drive. Ah - stranger yet! I've never heard of this before. You say the SCSI is a TMC controller? Not using the builtin SCSI? Which dock station (I or II)? Are you sure termination is correct? > I can't help thinking about the floppy disk change sense line and it's > inverted logic and wondering if there is something similar with the > SCSI host adaptor. I doubt it. Tons of people use CD-ROMs and SCSI HDs and don't have problems like you mention. If you bought the TMC scsi controller seperate, maybe there is something in the manual about this. Does it work in DOS? Sorry what I told you didn't help. Hope you get it figured out! > James. > +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 20:04:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27321; Wed, 12 Apr 95 20:04:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11503; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 19:51:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 19:51:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hoover.stanford.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11492; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 19:51:39 -0400 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #8660) id <01HP9BD8ZO280060S0@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:52:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: PC DOS 7.0--Missing Files To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HP9BD907CY0060S0@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" X-Vms-Cc: ANDRSN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I've just discovered that PC DOS 7.0 lacks some utilities--e.g., "JOIN"-- and have been told they're available from BBS or CompuServe. Anyone have a U.S. BBS number? Given the software they put on the machine, including commercial stuff for AOL etc. that doesn't run unless you get a subscription, I think making people contact BBS systems or CIS is not very user friendly. There were some software offers with the T-Pad a friend of mine got that required him to download software by a certain date or lose the opportunity. It turned out it would take 45 minutes (or 30) per file to download the four files needed--and he happened to be in California and the BBS was on the East Coast. If I get one of these things will it do any good to negotiate for complete software? Thanks Annelise From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 23:26:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25231; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:26:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25143; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 23:12:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 23:12:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25132; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 23:12:38 -0400 Received: from ppp227.basenet.net (ppp227.basenet.net [204.248.92.227]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA21997 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 21:11:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 21:11:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199504130211.VAA21997@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basegrp.com (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: PC DOS 7.0--Missing Files >I've just discovered that PC DOS 7.0 lacks some utilities--e.g., "JOIN"-- >and have been told they're available from BBS or CompuServe. > >Anyone have a U.S. BBS number? You can probably get it from the IBM PCCO FTP sight right: I believe it's the same BBS - URL is 'ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/dos_util/' |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 03:55:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19948; Thu, 13 Apr 95 03:55:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA13065; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 03:44:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 03:44:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from icebox.mfltd.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA13055; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 03:44:19 -0400 Received: from localhost (jfid@localhost) by icebox.mfltd.co.uk (8.6.4/8.6.4) id IAA18832; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 08:44:10 +0100 Message-Id: <199504130744.IAA18832@icebox.mfltd.co.uk> From: jfid@mfltd.co.uk (James Fidell) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 08:44:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: Brad Pepers's note of Apr 12, 4:50pm To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755, Dock I, Linux and SCSI CDROM problem... Cc: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Brad Pepers wrote: > > Brad Pepers wrote: > > > > > > I'm trying to get Linux to recognise a SCSI CD-ROM drive attached to the > > > > docking station on my 755. The kernel (1.2.4) recognises the TMC-8xx > > > > card without any problems now I've stopped the memory clash with the > > > > ethernet card, but when the driver initialises, it finds the CD-ROM > > > > drive at every SCSI address apart from the one it's at. > > > > > > > > Any suggestions as to the reason for this, or how to fix it ? > > > > > > The problem is that some SCSI devices respond on all LUNs when they > > > should only respond on one. Some other devices also lock up when > > > they are polled on anything but LUN 0. Linux has a list of these > > > bad devices in drivers/scsi/scsi.c. The list is called blacklist[]. > > > All you need to do is write down the identifying info that Linux > > > is showing on the screen for the device (should be three strings > > > with the manafacturer, model, and revision). Then add that to the > > > blacklist[] in scsi.c and recompile your kernel. You should send > > > the info to someone on the linux scsi development team (perhaps > > > Eric Youngdale - ericy@cais.com) so that it gets included in future > > > Linux releases. > > > > That's not what I'm seeing, though -- I get messages saying that the > > CDROM driver is found at scsi0, id X, LUN 0, where X is 0 thru' 7 > > excluding 6, which is the actual SCSI id of the CD-ROM drive. > > Ah - stranger yet! I've never heard of this before. You say the > SCSI is a TMC controller? Not using the builtin SCSI? Which dock > station (I or II)? Are you sure termination is correct? I believe that the controller is a TMC-850. OS/2 Warp told me that when I installed it, I'm sure. It is the built-in SCSI host in the Dock I. I'm as sure as I can be that the termination is correct. > > I can't help thinking about the floppy disk change sense line and it's > > inverted logic and wondering if there is something similar with the > > SCSI host adaptor. > > I doubt it. Tons of people use CD-ROMs and SCSI HDs and don't have > problems like you mention. If you bought the TMC scsi controller > seperate, maybe there is something in the manual about this. Does > it work in DOS? It works under DOS, Windows and OS/2 without any problems. James. -- "Yield to temptation -- | jfid@mfltd.co.uk it may not pass your way again" | http://www.mfltd.co.uk/~jfid/ | - Lazarus Long | James Fidell From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 09:53:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12000; Thu, 13 Apr 95 09:53:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09094; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:33:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:33:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ub-gate.UB.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09082; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:33:24 -0400 Received: from garfield (garfield.UB.com) by ub-gate.UB.com (4.1/SMI-4.1[UB-1.9.1]) id AA11452; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:32:43 PDT Received: from smtp.UB.com ([128.203.7.39]) by garfield (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15240; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:32:33 PDT Received: by smtp.UB.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.0)/1.2) id AA6659; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:33:40 -0700 Message-Id: <9504131333.AA6659@smtp.UB.com> Received: from UB with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id CBCBCB2F23771D108525619D004A16E4; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:33:39 To: tp750 From: Ken Yee/UB Networks Date: 13 Apr 95 9:30:25 EDT Subject: RE: powerpc thinkpad Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain > no price listed, but there is a picture. Finally has a wrist rest! Yay! Thanks to the engineers at IBM Japan who designed the thing. :-) ken From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 10:26:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14879; Thu, 13 Apr 95 10:26:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11450; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 10:06:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 10:06:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11437; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 10:06:34 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA00731 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Thu, 13 Apr 1995 10:06:31 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA27972; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 10:07:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 10:07:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: "Kris D. Williams" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PC DOS 7.0--Missing Files In-Reply-To: <199504130211.VAA21997@mtvernon1.basenet.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have join.exe in my PC Dos 7, was yours pre-installed on your machine or did you buy it somewhere? On Wed, 12 Apr 1995, Kris D. Williams wrote: > >I've just discovered that PC DOS 7.0 lacks some utilities--e.g., "JOIN"-- > >and have been told they're available from BBS or CompuServe. > > > >Anyone have a U.S. BBS number? > > You can probably get it from the IBM PCCO FTP sight right: I believe it's > the same BBS - URL is 'ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/dos_util/' > > > |===============================================================| > |Kris D. Williams | > |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | > |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | > |My opinions are my own (really!) | > |===============================================================| > > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 12:34:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23804; Thu, 13 Apr 95 12:34:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25468; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 12:17:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 12:17:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25450; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 12:17:24 -0400 Received: from p20.slip.net (sfsp100.slip.net [204.160.88.154]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA13951; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: <199504131617.JAA13951@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:17:37 -0700 To: , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: C-A-D doesn't work w/ new 1.2.4 Linux kernel w/ APM! Cc: chan4@CS.UTK.EDU (derek chan) At 08:42 PM 4/11/95 -0400, chan4@husc.harvard.edu wrote: >Anyone know what the problem is? > >Grrr...... Yeah, they fixed it :) look in /etc/inittab to make it shutdown on c-a-d, if the line isn't there, this'll do it: ca:::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now >I applied the APM patches to the kernel. Anyone also know if there's a >sound card driver available? Thanks I think I saw something on the tp linux page that said someone got it to work, but hasn't posted the patch yet.. his email address was there if you want to contact him. I haven't put linux on my 'pad yet, but I'm still considering it. ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 12:52:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24495; Thu, 13 Apr 95 12:52:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27271; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 12:35:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 12:35:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27238; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 12:35:33 -0400 Received: from p20.slip.net (sfsp100.slip.net [204.160.88.154]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA15239; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:30:08 -0700 Message-Id: <199504131630.JAA15239@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:30:43 -0700 To: Eugene Fiume , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: First Steps: Loading Linux You need a patched boot disk, and you'll have to patch some other stuff too: http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/html/linux-thinkpad.html At 10:00 AM 4/8/95 -0400, Eugene Fiume wrote: >I'm sure I have a very basic problem here. I have the Yggdrasil Plug-and-Play >Linux CDROM and boot floppy. I suspect some might say that's my problem! > >When I try to boot my 755CE from that boot floppy, I get the first two >letters of the expected "LILO", and then it hangs. If I try to "runlinux" >from the CDROM (Raven CD-Note PCMCIA-SCSI interface), I get a DOS message >saying that I am trying to perform a "privileged" operation. The >"runlinux" command just tries to load linux boot code above the DOS driver >memory so that it can use them. > >Is there a change I should be making to my configuration to allow such a >"privileged" operation? I am using the standard config.sys etc., except >that I have installed the CDROM and an ethernet network card driver. > >Any ideas why the boot floppy hangs the machine? To make certain my >bootfloppy was current, I remade it, but got the same result. > >An old UNIX geek who doesn't know the first thing about DOS and Windows... >Eugene Fiume. > > ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 14:20:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29839; Thu, 13 Apr 95 14:20:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03157; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 14:05:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 14:05:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nickel.ucs.indiana.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03140; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 14:05:03 -0400 Received: by nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (5.65c+/10jsm) id AA22706; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:05:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:04:57 -0500 (EST) From: weng hui X-Sender: whui@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RAM Upgrade and Batteries Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks to all who responded to my request for info. on IC DRAM card for my tp750. I finally got a 16MB card for $600 nett. - no problem so far. Does anyone know what is the average lifespan of the NiMH battery pack ? Also, to preserve its lifespan, is it better to charge/discharge repeatedly or to use the AC adapter whenever possible ( to reduce the frequency of recharging) ? Thanks again. Weng From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 16:09:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16819; Thu, 13 Apr 95 16:09:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10678; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 15:49:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 15:49:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10668; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 15:49:00 -0400 Received: from 204.248.93.5 ([204.248.92.250]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA27137 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:48:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:48:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199504131848.NAA27137@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basegrp.com (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: RAM Upgrade and Batteries >Does anyone know what is the average lifespan of the NiMH battery pack ? >Also, to preserve its lifespan, is it better to charge/discharge >repeatedly or to use the AC adapter whenever possible ( to reduce the >frequency of recharging) ? > >Weng Life span is more a function of charge/discharge cycles. Most NiMh batteries have an average charge/discharge life of 350-500 cycles. Train it well and you should get several years out of it. Train it poorly and you'll buy a new in no time. IMHO you should follow the rule: Never charge your battery until it is fully discharged and never stop charging it until it is fully charged. If you're 'in-between' the charge, and are going from battery to AC, either turn off the charge circuit (and continue to run on battery), run the discharge cycle, or remove the battery to prevent the charge cycle from starting again. |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 18:25:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07585; Thu, 13 Apr 95 18:25:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21815; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 18:14:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 18:14:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nickel.ucs.indiana.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21805; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 18:14:27 -0400 Received: by nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (5.65c+/10jsm) id AA01729; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 17:13:02 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 17:13:02 -0500 (EST) From: weng hui X-Sender: whui@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu To: "Kris D. Williams" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: RAM Upgrade and Batteries In-Reply-To: <199504131848.NAA27137@mtvernon1.basenet.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 13 Apr 1995, Kris D. Williams wrote: > Life span is more a function of charge/discharge cycles. Most NiMh > batteries have an average charge/discharge life of 350-500 cycles. Train it > well and you should get several years out of it. Train it poorly and you'll > buy a new in no time. > > IMHO you should follow the rule: Never charge your battery until it is fully > discharged and never stop charging it until it is fully charged. If you're > 'in-between' the charge, and are going from battery to AC, either turn off > the charge circuit (and continue to run on battery), run the discharge > cycle, or remove the battery to prevent the charge cycle from starting again. Does it follow that if I adhere to the rule and run the charge/discharge cycle, on average, once a day, the NiMh battery will last only 1-1.5 yrs ? With the limited total charge/discharge cycles does it also mean that it is better to keep the battery fully charged, operate the TP on AC power whenever possible, and maybe discharge once a week ? ( to avoid paying for a new battery every year which costs over US$200) Your opinions much appreciated. Weng From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 20:01:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15969; Thu, 13 Apr 95 20:01:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26447; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:46:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:46:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26437; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:46:46 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id QAA14781; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 16:46:20 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id QAA06756; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 16:46:17 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504132346.QAA06756@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: RAM Upgrade and Batteries To: whui@indiana.edu (weng hui) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 16:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "weng hui" at Apr 13, 95 01:04:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Does anyone know what is the average lifespan of the NiMH battery pack ? > Also, to preserve its lifespan, is it better to charge/discharge > repeatedly or to use the AC adapter whenever possible ( to reduce the > frequency of recharging) ? The only thing I would say is to *not* leave your battery in if you leave your ThinkPad plugged in on a regular basis. This forces the battery into a light charge/discharge cycle (down to 90%, then back up to 100% again...down to 90%...). It wreaks havoc with your battery life. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 20:06:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16724; Thu, 13 Apr 95 20:06:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26887; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:56:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:56:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26877; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:56:23 -0400 From: Keith Moore Received: by wilma.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id TAA08925; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:53:05 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:53:05 -0400 Message-Id: <199504132353.TAA08925@wilma.cs.utk.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: XFree86 3.1.1 on TP750? If anyone is running XFree86 3.* on a ThinkPad, could you please send me your XF86Config file? I've gotten it working, but only barely. thanks, Keith Moore From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 02:55:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17801; Fri, 14 Apr 95 02:55:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19244; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 02:42:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 02:42:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19234; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 02:42:31 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id XAA02955 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 23:42:28 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id XAA27539 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 23:42:27 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504140642.XAA27539@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: "Cat's Tongue" TrackPoint Caps To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 23:42:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't suppose anybody has a bunch of these and would like to part with a few (I'll pay)? I'm curious what having one is like (I have a 750C--boring old stuff ;) and I'd rather not spend the gold-like prices based on Troy-ounce weight of rubber according to IBM. :) If anyone has bunches of them and is willing to part with a few of them for a reasonable price, please E-mail me. Thanks! ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 12:43:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20645; Fri, 14 Apr 95 12:43:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28851; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:26:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:26:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28839; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:26:49 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144288>; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:26:43 -0400 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines Message-Id: <95Apr14.122643edt.144288@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:26:31 -0400 As part of my neverending battle to get my TP755CE "ready for everything" for my sabbatical, I am trying to both understand and implement the ability for my TP to talk TCP/IP to both a standalone SPARC 10 and to a TCP/IP LAN. I want to do this under DOS and Windows first. My aim is to allow my ThinkPad to telnet and ftp to workstations on a TCP/IP LAN. But first, I want to be able to connect to my other home machine, a Sparc 10, so that I can do backups, etc. Here are the raw materials I currently have: Pre-MAX PCMCIA Ethernet card supporting both 10Base TPE and thinwire ethernet. It apparently is NE2000 compliant, among others. Basic client netware is also provided (ipxodi, pmxmlid,netx, lsl), though I am a novice to this. MS-Kermit 3.14 with TCP/IP ODI support. A Sun Sparc 10/41 running SunOS 4.1.3. A twisted-pair cable. I am not planning to run WFW, or a Netware server. I'm only interested in connecting to UNIX boxes. Is it possible to simply connect the twisted-pair cable from ThinkPad to the UNIX box, or do I need some kind of hub adapter? I want my hardware requirements to be minimal so I don't have to carry a lot of junk around when I travel. On the assumption that I don't need a hub, I have done some basic driver setup on the ThinkPad side, to the extent that kermit attempts to connect to the Sun. But it returns saying that it cannot resolve the address. I believe I have set up the UNIX side correctly, so I think it's either a driver problem, or that my assumption that I could use twisted-pair like a serial cable is wrong. I'd appreciate hearing from others who have experience in this sort of thing. Has anyone had success in getting Kermit to work with ODI, Ethernet and SLIP/PPP drivers? Thanks, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 13:18:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23246; Fri, 14 Apr 95 13:18:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00584; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:00:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:00:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kitten.mcs.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00573; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:00:46 -0400 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA07616 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:00:44 -0500 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Fri, 14 Apr 95 11:48 CDT Received: by falkor.chi.il.us (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Fri, 14 Apr 95 11:38:25 CST for tp750@cs.utk.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: "Cat's Tongue" TrackPoint Caps From: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us (Ron Heiby) Message-Id: <8V4J4c2w165w@falkor.chi.il.us> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 11:34:30 CDT In-Reply-To: <199504140642.XAA27539@aludra.usc.edu> Organization: DML, Inc., Buffalo Grove, IL Randy, sorry I can't help you acquire one. I just thought that I'd let you know that I think that they are a *BIG* improvement over the smooth surface caps. The first couple of days, I found the surface to be quite rough, and I thought that I might develop a callous. After that, either I got used to it, or it wore down just enough. It works really well at helping keep control and avoid slipping off the stud. As to prices, I think it's stupid for IBM to sell 2+2 for $12-15. Most of that price has to be the overhead of selling *anything*. I bet they could sell a dozen for $20 or 50 for $25 if they wanted. Of course, unless you are a big company with many TPs, I don't know what you'd do with 50! Ron. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 14:01:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26150; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:01:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02984; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:50:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:50:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom12.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02967; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:50:07 -0400 Received: by netcom12.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA20610; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:49:50 -0400 From: gvaeth@netcom.com (Greg Vaeth at General Instrument) Message-Id: <199504141749.NAA20610@netcom12.netcom.com> Subject: Hooray! Cold boot problem solved To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad Mailing List) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:49:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am now on my second TP755CE trying to solve a problem where it will not boot up in the morning when cold (memory size displayed, floppy LED on, nothing else happens). After numerous call to IBM tech support, they finally asked "do you have an ethernet PCMCIA card installed?" It turns out that this known is a problem with the XIRCOM Performance Series Ethernet Adapters: with the card installed, the TP has to "warm up" before it will successfully boot. Apparently IBM and XIRCOM are still scratching their heads over this one. The only solution at the moment is either to live with it, or boot first, then install the card. Does anyone have any suggestions as to which ethernet card I should ask my pc vendor to swap for the XIRCOM? Thanks. Regards, Greg -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gregory Vaeth snailnet: internet: gvaeth@netcom.com General Instrument gvaeth@gic.gi.com ------ __o __o Communications Division voicenet: (215) 956-6488 ----- _`\<,_ _`\<,_ 2200 Byberry Road faxnet: (215) 675-4059 ----- (*)/ (*) (*)/ (*) Hatboro, PA 19040 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ My opinions are my own, and do not represent those of my employer. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 14:02:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26162; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:02:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03198; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:52:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:52:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns.incog.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03188; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:52:46 -0400 Received: from ale.incog.com by ns.incog.com (8.6.10/94082501) id KAA10253; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 10:53:33 -0700 Received: by ale.incog.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19570; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 10:52:33 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 10:52:33 -0700 From: geoffb@ale.incog.com (Geoffrey Baehr) Message-Id: <9504141752.AA19570@ale.incog.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Win95/TP755CE CRT resolution ? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Anyone know how to get Win95 Final Beta to recognize the TP 755CE WD Display Controller correctly so that resolution switching for external CRT's may function ? I have it working at 640x480, all other Plug n Play BIOS features are cool, hot docking etc. The Device Manager reports that the controller is "Not Functioning Correctly" in any config, even though it works. Auto Device Detect shows two controllers, deleting one has no effect, but neither controller will allow any resolution change. It's *too* helpful, preventing device parameter changes while they are "Conflicting or Not available". Yes, I selected External CRT in the TP Display control panel. An MS Knowledge Base article ( Q124267 ) reports that some thinkpads need to have the VESA BIOS enabled, I have that enabled (since it's in ROM anyway) and it's mentioned in system.ini (EnableVESABios=). Soewhere in the mists on Compuserve in the TP Forum there was a brief mention of deleting the wdvga.drv and replacing it with something else, doesn't sound right though... I've looked on the Microsoft Network, Compuserve and the PCCO BBS, no joy. Comments or thoughts are appreciated ! geoff From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 14:08:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26585; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:08:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03438; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:56:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:56:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03428; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:56:14 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 5087; Fri, 14 Apr 95 13:56:13 EDT Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 0361; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:56:12 EDT Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Fri, 14 Apr 95 13:56:10 EDT Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA29597; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:56:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:56:09 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9504141756.AA29597@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Eugene Fiume's message of Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:26:31 -0400 <95Apr14.122643edt.144288@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Subject: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines >As part of my neverending battle to get my TP755CE "ready for everything" >for my sabbatical, I am trying to both understand and implement the >ability for my TP to talk TCP/IP to both a standalone SPARC 10 and to >a TCP/IP LAN. I want to do this under DOS and Windows first. My aim >is to allow my ThinkPad to telnet and ftp to workstations on a TCP/IP LAN. Best of luck!!! getting TCP/IP running on the Thinkpad was a most heinous chore for me. I am using a TP750C with the 3Com ethernet board networked to a Sun and an RS/6000 on 10Base2. Of the free stuff that is out there, I use: NCSA Telnet (for telnet/ftp) and XFS for mounting disks. In order to communicate to the ethernet board, I use the Microsoft protocal manager, an NDIS driver, a packet driver, and a windows packet shim. All of this is available free on the internet, except the NDIS driver which came with my ethernet board. It is a real mishmash. I can send you my config.sys if you want. Kermit also does some rudimentary TCP/IP stuff, but it is pretty new and poorly documented. I think NCSA Telnet is more stable. If you want, you can go out and buy a commercial TCP/IP package such as PCNFS (recommended), IBM TCP/IP for DOS (not recommended), or others. This can run into hundreds of dollars, though. You can connect directly from a thinkpad to a UNIX box with twisted pair without a hub. But you need a special (but cheap) cable, and your "net" can only support the two machines. As for SLIP/PPP and Kermit, yes I have gotten it working, but what does this have to do with ethernet? It is only useful over a modem. --andy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 14:42:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29117; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:42:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05248; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 14:32:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 14:31:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05236; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 14:31:54 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17309; Fri, 14 Apr 95 11:30:47 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id LAA02643; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 11:32:21 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9504141132.ZM2641@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 11:32:20 -0700 In-Reply-To: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) "TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines" (Apr 14, 1:56pm) References: <9504141756.AA29597@jimi.watson.ibm.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Apr 14, 1:56pm, Andrew Stevens wrote: > Subject: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines > > >As part of my neverending battle to get my TP755CE "ready for everything" > >for my sabbatical, I am trying to both understand and implement the > >ability for my TP to talk TCP/IP to both a standalone SPARC 10 and to > >a TCP/IP LAN. I want to do this under DOS and Windows first. My aim > >is to allow my ThinkPad to telnet and ftp to workstations on a TCP/IP LAN. > > Best of luck!!! getting TCP/IP running on the Thinkpad was a most > heinous chore for me. > > If you want, you can go out and buy a commercial TCP/IP package such > as PCNFS (recommended), IBM TCP/IP for DOS (not recommended), or > others. This can run into hundreds of dollars, though. I've used both PCNFS and Chameleon/NFS. Chameleon is vastly superior to PCNFS. The Chameleon installation is a snap, and they have a great set of integrated TCP/IP applications, including a MIME mailer, a web reader (and an http server!) an ftp client *and* server, telnet, tftp, NFS client and server (along with a nice application to resolve UNIX to PC names), Yellow Pages (NIS), Domain Name Service, LPR/LPR remote printer support, all the rsh/rlogin utilities, routing, etc... They also supply SLIP/CSLIP/PPP interfaces, but most importantly, along with routers so you can co-exist on an Ethernet network at the same time you're on a modem network. The package costs around $400. Robert -- -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 14:59:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00315; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:59:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05927; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 14:46:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 14:45:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from stortek.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05917; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 14:45:52 -0400 Received: from deathstar.stortek.com ([129.80.18.204]) by stortek.com with SMTP id AA00700 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:45:19 -0600 Received: from endor.stortek.com by deathstar.stortek.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-SESA-Main-0001) id AA14412; Fri, 14 Apr 95 12:45:18 MDT Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 12:45:18 MDT From: ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) Message-Id: <9504141845.AA14412@deathstar.stortek.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: "Cat's Tongue" TrackPoint Caps > Of course, unless you > are a big company with many TPs, I don't know what you'd do with 50! Sell them to your friends for a decent price... ;-)) Lee Stewart From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 16:32:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08536; Fri, 14 Apr 95 16:32:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11028; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:05:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:05:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mp.canuck.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10985; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:04:59 -0400 Received: from ccc001.canuck.com by mp.canuck.com via SMTP (940715.SGI.405/940801.mp) for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU id AA11814; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:04:47 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:04:47 -0600 Message-Id: <9504142004.AA11814@mp.canuck.com> X-Sender: dcrombie@canuck.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Randal Whittle , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) From: dcrombie@canuck.com (David S. Crombie) Subject: Re: "Cat's Tongue" TrackPoint Caps X-Mailer: At 11:42 PM 4/13/95, Randal Whittle wrote: > > I don't suppose anybody has a bunch of these and would like >to part with a few (I'll pay)? > > I'm curious what having one is like (I have a 750C--boring >old stuff ;) and I'd rather not spend the gold-like prices based on >Troy-ounce weight of rubber according to IBM. :) I purchased a 360C a couple months ago which comes stanard with the TPII caps. I had been following this group for awhile, so I knew the difference, so I ordered a few up here in Canada. The total came to $22 CDN (about $16 US). I have to say that it was the best purchase I have made after the machine itself. They may be expensive, but if you are like me and tend to use the machine for hours at a time they are definitely worth paying IBM the high cost for them. When I ordered them they said there was a two week back order, but they were shipped priority overnight and arrived two days later. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- David S. Crombie dcrombie@canuck.com All I want is the chance to prove that money can't buy happiness. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 16:33:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08703; Fri, 14 Apr 95 16:33:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12363; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:24:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:24:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12343; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:24:15 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id QAA20835; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:27:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:27:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Greg Vaeth at General Instrument Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Hooray! Cold boot problem solved In-Reply-To: <199504141749.NAA20610@netcom12.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 14 Apr 1995, Greg Vaeth at General Instrument wrote: > install the card. Does anyone have any suggestions as to which > ethernet card I should ask my pc vendor to swap for the XIRCOM? Thanks. I have been very happy with my Linksys Combo card. Came with drivers for Netware ODI (server too!), NDIS, Packet and PCNFS. Plus, it autodetects 10base2 and T, a great feature for someone who works in both environments like I do. It's one dongle for both base 2 and T. HOWEVER, it didn't work with my 750 and autoplay. Since I prefer the point enablers for memory space, that doesn't bother me, but it may you. Whether the 755 and on work with it I do not know. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 17:08:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10860; Fri, 14 Apr 95 17:08:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13842; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:47:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:47:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13827; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:47:14 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id QAA22507; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:50:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:50:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Robert George Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines In-Reply-To: <9504141132.ZM2641@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 14 Apr 1995, Robert George wrote: > I've used both PCNFS and Chameleon/NFS. Chameleon is vastly superior to PCNFS. > The Chameleon installation is a snap, and they have a great set of integrated > TCP/IP applications, including a MIME mailer, a web reader (and an http > server!) an ftp client *and* server, telnet, tftp, NFS client and server (along > with a nice application to resolve UNIX to PC names), Yellow Pages (NIS), > Domain Name Service, LPR/LPR remote printer support, all the rsh/rlogin > utilities, routing, etc... > > They also supply SLIP/CSLIP/PPP interfaces, but most importantly, along with > routers so you can co-exist on an Ethernet network at the same time you're on a > modem network. > > The package costs around $400. They have a competitive deal till the end of this month that will get you the NFS version (normally $500) for $200. You could go buy Internet in a Box for $85 just to get the deal and it would still be cheaper. Anyone who needs the number can mail me at don@fwoot.kendall.mdcc.edu (work machine) and ask me for the number, I'll get it off the ad I clipped and mail it back to you. I have the non-NFS version, and I have only these observations about it: 1) The newsreader _stinks_. No threads, ends lines with CR/LF instead of CR so people reading your postings from a unix box see this ^M at the end of each line 2) The system makes it difficult to switch from SLIP/PPP to a physical card. You have to open the config/dialer program, open a different config file, save the settings, close the program and then reopen it if you want to make a PPP call. (This is because of the way their system holds your IP number and the like. This is not true _if_ you use BOOTP on both PPP and physical connections) 3) Several of the utilities are iffy - the FTP client is not as good as WS_FTP, some others are weak. 4) Tech support is _HORRIBLE_. People I know have waited over a week for email responses only to get canned messages. However, once you discover the weaknesses and find other utilities to replace the icky ones, the software works okay. You can use the prefered NDIS drivers or ODI if you're already using Netware. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 17:16:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11336; Fri, 14 Apr 95 17:16:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14818; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:02:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:02:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14808; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:02:21 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA03167 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:02:18 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA26657; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:03:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:03:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PC DOS 7.0--Missing Files (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Would the list owner kindly remove Josheph Pereira from the subscriber's list? Every time I send a message I get a bounce back like this. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 10:33:22 -0500 From: postmaster@channel1.com To: Joshua Hosseinoff Subject: Re: PC DOS 7.0--Missing Files Unknown user 'joseph.pereira' at channel1.com ---------------- I have join.exe in my PC Dos 7, was yours pre-installed on your machine or did you buy it somewhere? On Wed, 12 Apr 1995, Kris D. Williams wrote: > >I've just discovered that PC DOS 7.0 lacks some utilities--e.g., "JOIN"-- > >and have been told they're available from BBS or CompuServe. > > > >Anyone have a U.S. BBS number? > > You can probably get it from the IBM PCCO FTP sight right: I believe it's > the same BBS - URL is 'ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/dos_util/' > > > |===============================================================| > |Kris D. Williams | > |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | > |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | > |My opinions are my own (really!) | > |===============================================================| > > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 18:10:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16137; Fri, 14 Apr 95 18:10:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18698; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:58:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:58:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18689; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:58:30 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id RAA01118; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:55:11 -0400 Message-Id: <199504142155.RAA01118@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU To: Joshua Hosseinoff Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: [ADMIN] where to send maintenance requests In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:03:08 EDT." Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:55:05 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > Would the list owner kindly remove Josheph Pereira from the subscriber's > list? Every time I send a message I get a bounce back like this. done. (I wish people's mailers would follow the protocol specs!) FWIW, maintenance requests should go to tp750-request@cs.utk.edu, not to the whole list. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 18:39:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17818; Fri, 14 Apr 95 18:39:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20824; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 18:21:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 18:21:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20806; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 18:21:05 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA18002 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 15:20:58 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id PAA11466 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 15:20:53 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504142220.PAA11466@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: "Cat's Tongue" TrackPoint Caps (fwd) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 15:20:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Forwarded message: > I'm on my last (old style) trackpoint cover. Do you have the > fone # and part # of the new type of cover and where to call to > order? As one gentleman on the list sent this to me privately, I'll first apologize for not paying attention when this part number was posted, and then ask someone to post it up again. ;) ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 15 01:08:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13199; Sat, 15 Apr 95 01:08:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13196; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 01:01:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 01:01:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13180; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 01:00:58 -0400 Received: from DialupEudora (ts1.noc.drexel.edu [129.25.12.13]) by dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (8.6.11/8.6.4) with SMTP id BAA10653 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 01:00:39 -0400 X-Sender: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 00:12:40 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Mark Bell) Subject: Re: Hooray! Cold boot problem solved >Hi, > >I am now on my second TP755CE trying to solve a problem where it will >not boot up in the morning when cold (memory size displayed, floppy >LED on, nothing else happens). After numerous call to IBM tech >support, they finally asked "do you have an ethernet PCMCIA card >installed?" It turns out that this known is a problem with the XIRCOM >Performance Series Ethernet Adapters: with the card installed, the TP >has to "warm up" before it will successfully boot. Apparently IBM >and XIRCOM are still scratching their heads over this one. The only >solution at the moment is either to live with it, or boot first, then >install the card. Does anyone have any suggestions as to which >ethernet card I should ask my pc vendor to swap for the XIRCOM? Thanks. > I have to chime in and say all I have had are problems interfacing a Xircom Ethernet + Modem I (10bT & V.32Terbo) to my TP755C. Each time I Email cs@xircom.com, I get a "new or different" way to get the card to work. Their redirector for DOS doesn't work, so the modem us useless to me. It took me a month to get the card to be recognized, but WfWG hangs on start up every time. When I emailed tech support, they had a whole new set of rules to get it to work in a "work around" type of way. They want me to flash upgrade, but the 755 just gags on it. I also noticed "work around" methods for 750's too. I ended up throwing up my hands and ordering a Megahertz Xjack. Now that was easy, seamless installation. I had it working in a few minutes. It also runs beautifully in DOS and Windows. I would wholeheartedly recommend this unit to anyone. Meanwhile, the $500 Xircom card is gathering dust. I would like to hear from other people who have either had problems or actual easy installs with Xircom PCMCIA cards in their ThinkPads. .....That's right, No friggin' sig!........ * Mark Bell * 800 College Drive #104 * Vineland, NJ 08360 * 1-609-327-4029 * From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 15 18:20:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11998; Sat, 15 Apr 95 18:20:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09843; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:09:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:09:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09833; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:08:59 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09945; Sat, 15 Apr 95 15:07:52 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id PAA03305; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 15:07:46 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9504151507.ZM3303@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 15:07:45 -0700 In-Reply-To: Don Whiteside "Re: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines" (Apr 14, 4:50pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Don Whiteside Subject: Re: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Apr 14, 4:50pm, Don Whiteside wrote: > Subject: Re: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines > On Fri, 14 Apr 1995, Robert George wrote: > > > I've used both PCNFS and Chameleon/NFS. Chameleon is vastly superior to PCNFS. > I have the non-NFS version, and I have only these observations about it: > > 1) The newsreader _stinks_. No threads, ends lines with CR/LF instead of > CR so people reading your postings from a unix box see this ^M at the end > of each line > 2) The system makes it difficult to switch from SLIP/PPP to a physical > card. You have to open the config/dialer program, open a different config > file, save the settings, close the program and then reopen it if you want > to make a PPP call. (This is because of the way their system holds your > IP number and the like. This is not true _if_ you use BOOTP on both PPP > and physical connections) > 3) Several of the utilities are iffy - the FTP client is not as good as > WS_FTP, some others are weak. Don, Get the Chameleon 4.5 update, which just came out about a month ago. It fixes *all* of the problems you mentioned! > 4) Tech support is _HORRIBLE_. People I know have waited over a week for > email responses only to get canned messages. Agreed. I've often had to send repeated e-mail to get any kind of response. I found that if you reply to the exact responder, instead of to the help address, you get a little more personal, and *slightly* faster responses. The help you do get generally is limited to the staff reading off of a checklist an engineer gave to them. On the other hand, this kind of problem is endemic to the PC marketplace in general. A software house can't afford to put their software engineers on the help line. Robert -- -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 15 18:46:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13444; Sat, 15 Apr 95 18:46:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11686; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:40:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:40:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11670; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:40:20 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id SAA16970; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:44:07 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:44:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Robert George Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines In-Reply-To: <9504151507.ZM3303@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 15 Apr 1995, Robert George wrote: > Get the Chameleon 4.5 update, which just came out about a month ago. It > fixes *all* of the problems you mentioned! Yeah? I may buy another copy. I'm using my brother's, which was a product demo that he stopped using in favor of Super TCP, which puts me on shakier legal ground than I like. (I'm such a goody-goody) The $200 deal is pretty sweet for the amount of stuff you get. > > 4) Tech support is _HORRIBLE_. People I know have waited over a week for > > email responses only to get canned messages. > > Agreed. I've often had to send repeated e-mail to get any kind of response. I > found that if you reply to the exact responder, instead of to the help address, > you get a little more personal, and *slightly* faster responses. The help you > do get generally is limited to the staff reading off of a checklist an engineer > gave to them. > > On the other hand, this kind of problem is endemic to the PC marketplace in > general. A software house can't afford to put their software engineers on the > help line. Well, my brother, who was employed in tech support that the time, used to get driven to diversion by them. So when another tech person gets cheesed, you know you're in trouble.... His employer, UUNET, had so much trouble with them that they finally stopped reccomending the product. Netmanage had a provider shilling their product, but they still wouldn't bother to answer UUNET's questions and outright lied to customers about whose fault problems were. UUNET would send them sheets detailing the problem with Netmanage's software (and how to fix it) and Netmanage would CONTINUE to blame UUNET and tell customers there was nothing they could do! Oh well. I'll pick up the phone monday and just buy 4.5. This version doesn't do NFS anyways, and I'd really like to use my desktop machine to serve it w/o jerking around with some mini netware or something. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "I timed it. It took 22 seconds for him to hate you." - Chicago Hope ======================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 16 04:32:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16044; Sun, 16 Apr 95 04:32:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13347; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 04:22:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 04:22:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from maxwell.otago.ac.nz by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13337; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 04:22:23 -0400 Received: by maxwell.otago.ac.nz (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA07539; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 20:22:48 +1200 Message-Id: <9504160822.AA07539@maxwell.otago.ac.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 20:23:07 +1200 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: mccord@maxwell.otago.ac.nz (Alan McCord) Subject: Re: Hooray! Cold boot problem solved Hi, >>I am now on my second TP755CE trying to solve a problem where it will >>not boot up in the morning when cold (memory size displayed, floppy >>LED on, nothing else happens). After numerous call to IBM tech >>support, they finally asked "do you have an ethernet PCMCIA card >>installed?" It turns out that this known is a problem with the XIRCOM >>Performance Series Ethernet Adapters: with the card installed, the TP >>has to "warm up" before it will successfully boot. Apparently IBM >>and XIRCOM are still scratching their heads over this one. The only >>solution at the moment is either to live with it, or boot first, then >>install the card. Does anyone have any suggestions as to which >>ethernet card I should ask my pc vendor to swap for the XIRCOM? Thanks. >> > Mark Bell wrote: >I have to chime in and say all I have had are problems interfacing a Xircom >Ethernet + Modem I (10bT & V.32Terbo) to my TP755C. Each time I Email >cs@xircom.com, I get a "new or different" way to get the card to work. >Their redirector for DOS doesn't work, so the modem us useless to me. It >took me a month to get the card to be recognized, but WfWG hangs on start >up every time. When I emailed tech support, they had a whole new set of >rules to get it to work in a "work around" type of way. They want me to >flash upgrade, but the 755 just gags on it. I also noticed "work around" >methods for 750's too. I ended up throwing up my hands and ordering a >Megahertz Xjack. Now that was easy, seamless installation. I had it working >in a few minutes. It also runs beautifully in DOS and Windows. I would >wholeheartedly recommend this unit to anyone. Meanwhile, the $500 Xircom >card is gathering dust. I would like to hear from other people who have >either had problems or actual easy installs with Xircom PCMCIA cards in >their ThinkPads. I gave up getting my first Xircom ethernet fax/modem card to work in my TP 755C, and ended up getting an "IBM Ethernet II Credit Card Adapter" and a separate "New Media Corporation" fax/modem card for about the same price. Both work fine under WFW but now I need to run NT.... I don't have any idea if NT drivers exist for either of these two cards. I have heard that the NEW Xircom Ethernet Fax/Modem (called II?) does have NT drivers for it, but I'd really like to get my existing hardware working under NT. Any suggestions or experience with IBM cards under NT? Al //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ \\ Alan McCord Phone: +64-(3)-4797805 // // Physics Department Fax: +64-(3)-4797904 \\ \\ University of Otago Email: mccord@maxwell.otago.ac.nz // // P.O.Box 56 University Telephone Paging System: \\ \\ Dunedin +64-(3)-4797500-beep-42 // // New Zealand Home Phone: +64-(3)-4780087 \\ \\ Home Fax: +64-(3)-4780666 // \\ Cell Phone: +64-(25)-345901 \\ //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 16 11:33:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08530; Sun, 16 Apr 95 11:33:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09075; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 11:20:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 11:20:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09066; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 11:20:56 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id LAA04235; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 11:17:38 -0400 Message-Id: <199504161517.LAA04235@wilma.cs.utk.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: a friend wants to buy a laptop to run BSDI... Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 11:17:32 -0400 From: Keith Moore A friend of mine wants to buy a new laptop to run BSDI. I run NetBSD on my TP750, but it's been a real pain to work around all of the incompatibilities (I'm currently pulling my hair out trying to get NetBSD 1.0 to run). Are the newer models any better, and if so, how? Here's my reply to a message he sent me. If anyone has additional information that seems apropos, I'll forward it to him. In particular, I'd like to hear from anyone else who is running *BSD on a thinkpad. Thanks, Keith ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ (my reply) > > Thinking of a laptop upgrade. As you know, I am a BSDI user. Some > questions. > > Of what compatibility issues should I be aware? What models should I avoid? The later thinkpad models have fewer compatibility problems, but here's what I've run into: + 2.88 Mb floppy drives/controllers are not widely supported. Even though the hardware is usually software compatible with 1.44 Mb hardware, the bios will report a different value. The newer thinkpads have 1.44 Mb drives so this is not a problem for them. + floppy disk change line in a ThinkPad has the opposite assertion level from AT-bus machine. May not be a problem for BSDI (NetBSD doesn't care); but this was a problem for Linux. + keyboard controller on my TP750 emulates a very picky PS/2 keyboard. It acts like an AT keyboard after booting, but if the BSDI device driver resets the keyboard, it might not be able to deal with the scan codes that result. Also things like the power switch and some of the special functions don't seem to work after resetting the keyboard controller. YMMV. + mouse controller (trackpoint) has similar problems. It mostly acts like a PS/2 mouse -- but is not recognized as one when the device driver tries to probe it. + sound chip on older models isn't compatible with much of anything. newer models emulate a soundblaster in hardware. + XFree86 3.x works on my monochrome model, though it doesn't quite handle the 90c24 chip right in all modes. It seems to work fine if you treat the display as a 256 color SVGA. XFree86 2.x works fine, but may not support graphics acceleration. + There's a wierd bug on the TP750 where it wants to use the top 4K of conventional memory for the BIOS. If the OS stomps on it, the system will just get wedged. (One symptom was that an attempt to use a parallel printer caused the system to cold boot.) I'm not sure if this "feature" still exists on later machines. My best guess is that you'll need to do some kernel tweaking to get things running smoothly. Again, maybe the later models work better, but I'd ask BSDI about it if I were you. As for models to look for / avoid: + In general, the 360 and 75x series are pretty nice. The 701 (butterfly) is supposed to be nice also, but I haven't seen one. I don't like their subnotebooks. My dad has a 501. It works okay but I can't stand typing on its keyboard. If you want a subnotebook, a Compaq Aero is nicer. + make sure you can get a dual-voltage charger and extra batteries. some of the recent models come with only a single-voltage brick (which is smaller and lighter but probably not what you need). also, some models use different batteries than others, and not all of them have spares or external chargers available yet. (ask John Klensin about his) + IBM has a gazillion different laptop displays. I think they paniced when the things were in short supply, and rather than try to get enough of any one display type to satisfy the demand, they just bought displays from everybody. I still prefer monochrome because it gives a lighter machine and better battery life, but all of the color ones have better contrast (given a reasonable choice of foreground/background colors) than a mono LCD. + Disks come in sizes from 170 Mb (just discontinued?) to over a Gb. If you want to upgrade later you can replace it with a 2.5" 17mm high drive, but you have to open up the little disk carrier and break warning seals etc. Or you can buy a thinkpad-ready disk complete with its own carrier -- but they're fairly expensive compared with bare drives. I have a 340 Mb drive which means I'm always trying to find something to delete. For a new system, I'd get the 810 Mb drive at least. > How do BSD and power management interact? What's the result on battery > life? + My guess is that there's no support for APM in BSD. Some of the power management is done in hardware, and this will probably still work. But it won't turn off your devices when you're not using them -- so your battery life won't be as good as under windows. I get around 3 hours per battery doing things like editing. NiMH don't have the same memory problems as NiCd batteries, but it still helps to do full charge-discharge cycles. > The TFT display seems small. Will I like the STN better? Yes, but any color display you get will be better than what you have now. > Can I leave it on for weeks on end? Yes. I keep my TP plugged in the docking station at home when I'm not on the road. > Connection for external monitor? works fine for me. On my machine, the video controller generates different clocks depending on whether the external monitor is enabled. There's a key on the keyboard that toggles between one and the other. > Where does one get good pricing and selection? sorry, can't help you here. IBM does have a place to mail order discontinued models at reasonable prices, if you're interested in that I can find it. I'll forward your question to the tp750 mailing list to see what other advice they might have. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 16 21:32:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14905; Sun, 16 Apr 95 21:32:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11664; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:11:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:10:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11650; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:10:49 -0400 Received: from by (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA27402; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:18:51 +0900 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:18:51 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199504170118.KAA27402@Pion> To: chan4@husc.harvard.edu, jesse@spine.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: C-A-D doesn't work w/ new 1.2.4 Linux kernel w/ APM! Cc: chan4@CS.UTK.EDU I am using a 1.2.4 kernel with APM on my TP755C. The CAD works just fine. -Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 16 21:50:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16092; Sun, 16 Apr 95 21:50:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13256; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:38:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:38:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from baijuyi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13246; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:38:05 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by baijuyi (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA21630 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 09:35:39 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199504170135.JAA21630@baijuyi> Subject: Re: "Cat's Tongue" TrackPoint Caps (fwd) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 09:35:39 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text ` Forwarded message: ` ` I'm on my last (old style) trackpoint cover. Do you have the ` fone # and part # of the new type of cover and where to call to ` order? Going thru' my TP archives, I found this dated last year. Hope this helps. Finally I'll be able to get them from IBM S'pore! cheers. > My sources tell me that the part no. is > 84G6536 - $15.50 per package > To order: 1-800-388-7087--they take credit cards. Expect a 15-30 day > backorder. > --andy > Thanks for the info, Andy. I called the number you listed above, and > here is what I was told: > The $15.50 package price is for three (3) caps, two red and one black. > Expected delivery time is 5-10 days. > They do not offer any kind of a group discount, so I guess it's every > man for himself. > Thanks again to Andy for doing the legwork on this... > -key ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 17 11:00:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09779; Mon, 17 Apr 95 11:00:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21270; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:48:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:48:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21255; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:48:37 -0400 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA01972; Mon, 17 Apr 95 08:48:00 MDT Date: Mon, 17 Apr 95 08:48:00 MDT From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9504171448.AA01972@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: "Cat's Tongue" TrackPoint Caps > The $15.50 package price is for three (3) caps, two red and one black. Although this is what I was told when I ordered, what I actually *got* was a total of four caps, only two of which were the new textured type. At $7.75 each, IBM is laughing all the way to the bank, but I still think everyone should try these replacement caps. Having already paid IBM's over-inflated price for the ThinkPad in the first place, what's another $15.50? I guess it's an attitude like mine that allows IBM to get away with this thievery. But, from a quality standpoint, I don't feel as though I've ever been burned by IBM... -- Karl E. Yeanoplos Denver, CO. kyeanopl@den.mmc.com / key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 17 11:00:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09784; Mon, 17 Apr 95 11:00:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21244; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:48:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:48:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21234; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:48:21 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA20725; Mon, 17 Apr 95 10:49:07 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 95 10:49:07 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504171449.AA20725@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: introduction I have been away from this list for a while, so I will reintroduce myself. I teach at NYU, and am currently working on an Ada 95 compiler. I use a TP 755 with 810 meg drive and 36 megs mem as my only machine. I havce previously owned a 700,720 and 750, I am thinking of getting a 701, is this similar in basic design to the 75x series? Also does anyone know status of Pentium announcements for this or other machines in the TP line. An IBM guy told me April 1 for the 755, but I have not seen any official announcement, did I miss something? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 17 16:42:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00451; Mon, 17 Apr 95 16:42:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24709; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:31:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:31:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24687; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:31:23 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144280>; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:31:12 -0400 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: MIDI port options Message-Id: <95Apr17.163112edt.144280@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:31:08 -0400 One of the things I gave up (and what I miss most) in going from a 755CD to a CE was the built-in MIDI I/O port. I'd like to get this functionality and am wondering what my options are. Can anyone comment on whether there are working MIDI<->X converters, where X is the ThinkPad's: * serial port * parallel port * PCMCIA slot I don't even know if such devices exist for the last two. Presumably, the appropriate drivers need to come with such a unit. Anyone have any direct experience with external MIDI ports on ThinkPads? Thanks again, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 17 16:43:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02094; Mon, 17 Apr 95 16:43:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24637; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:30:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:30:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24572; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:30:36 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144280>; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:30:26 -0400 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Preinstalled Windows 3.10 or 3.11? Message-Id: <95Apr17.163026edt.144280@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:30:21 -0400 Silly question: when I ask Windows what version it is, I get 3.10, but when I use the diskette factory, I get 3.11 disks. So, what is really pre-installed on 755 series machines, 3.10 or 3.11? If 3.10, is it worth going to 3.11? Thanks, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 17 16:57:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04084; Mon, 17 Apr 95 16:57:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26202; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:42:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:42:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26188; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:42:38 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 0907; Mon, 17 Apr 95 16:42:33 EDT Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 8511; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:42:32 EDT Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Mon, 17 Apr 95 16:41:56 EDT Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA37718; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:41:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:41:55 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9504172041.AA37718@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: stevens@watson.ibm.com Subject: Re: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines For those interested, here is how I connect my 750 to a UNIX box with a 3Com Ethernet PCMCIA card and free/share software. Step 1: get the following software: NCSA Telnet from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu MS Lan Manager software files: protman.sys, netbind.exe, protocol.ini (I can't figure out which site I got these at, but I have the zip file, it is called protm11.zip) Packet driver: dis_pkt9.zip from oak.oakland.edu, or comes with kermit from watsun.cc.columbia.edu Windows shim: twsk20b.zip from oak.oakland.edu or comes with kermit XFS from lwfws1.uni-paderborn.de NDIS driver (comes with your ethernet board) Step 2: install the packet driver as follows. C:\CONFIG.SYS: -------------------------------------------------------- ...stuff deleted... rem autodrv stuff is unnecessary for this config. device=c:\tcp\protman.sys /i:c:\tcp device=c:\3com\elpc3.dos device=c:\packet\dis_pkt9.dos -------------------------------------------------------- C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT: -------------------------------------------------------- ...stuff deleted... c:\tcp\netbind c:\packet\winpkt 0x60 -------------------------------------------------------- C:\TCP\PROTOCOL.INI: -------------------------------------------------------- [PROTMAN] DriverName=PROTMAN$ [ELPC3] DriverName=ELPC3$ MAXTRANSMITS=10 PCMCIA_ENABLER=YES [pktdrv] drivername=ELPC3$ bindings=elpc3 intvec=0x60 -------------------------------------------------------- Step 3: To get telnet and ftp, configure "config.tel" to get NCSA Telnet running, as per documentation. To mount Unix disks on the DOS box, configure "init" and "hosts" as per the XFS documentation. --andy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 17 18:04:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15209; Mon, 17 Apr 95 18:04:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02676; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:48:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:48:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02657; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:48:19 -0400 Received: from hp.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA20824; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:46:54 -0600 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.15//ident-1.0) id AA169365625; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:53:45 -0600 Message-Id: <199504172153.AA169365625@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: MIDI port options To: elf@dgp.toronto.edu (Eugene Fiume) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:53:44 -0600 (MDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <95Apr17.163112edt.144280@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> from "Eugene Fiume" at Apr 17, 95 04:31:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > One of the things I gave up (and what I miss most) in going from a 755CD to > a CE was the built-in MIDI I/O port. I'd like to get this functionality > and am wondering what my options are. Can anyone comment on whether there > are working MIDI<->X converters, where X is the ThinkPad's: > > * serial port > * parallel port > * PCMCIA slot > > I don't even know if such devices exist for the last two. Presumably, the > appropriate drivers need to come with such a unit. Anyone have any direct > experience with external MIDI ports on ThinkPads? > > Thanks again, > Eugene Fiume. I'm sorry I don't have an answer for you on this but I do have a question (8^). I have a 755CD and want to use the MIDI. Do I need a special cable to do this? Where could I find some software to experiment with MIDI. My wife is a musician and one of the selling points of the 755CD was the MIDI so now I would like to show her that it works! Thanks! +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 17 19:02:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23324; Mon, 17 Apr 95 19:02:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08618; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 18:52:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 18:52:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08606; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 18:52:49 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA19796 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:52:35 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:52:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199504172252.RAA19796@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: Re: Preinstalled Windows 3.10 or 3.11? >Silly question: when I ask Windows what version it is, I get 3.10, but >when I use the diskette factory, I get 3.11 disks. So, what is really >pre-installed on 755 series machines, 3.10 or 3.11? If 3.10, is it >worth going to 3.11? > >Thanks, >Eugene Fiume. > i downloaded the 3.11 upgrade from microsoft, unpacked the some of the core .dll files that get upgraded in \windows\system, and compared them to the files that came pre-installed on my thinkpad 755CE. i did not do an exhaustive compare, but the 4 or 5 files which i did randomly compare had the same file size & date as the files in the 3.11 upgrade kit. also note that the netware 4.0 and above drivers are present pre-installed on the thinkpad; these drivers were certainly not part of the original windows 3.1 distribution! thus, my guess is that at least what the 755CE/CsE/CD machines came preinstalled with is actually 3.11. --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 00:27:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10286; Tue, 18 Apr 95 00:27:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00355; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 00:03:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 00:03:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns9000.furman.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00343; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 00:03:35 -0400 From: Received: from by ns9000.furman.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.15/16.2) id AA206738306; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 00:11:46 -0400 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 00:11:23 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: Windows 95 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Item Subject: Message text Windows 95 Preview Program is up and running on my ThinkPad 750! (monochrome LCD, 33MHz, 20MB RAM). I'm quite pleased so far. I think I like it better than OS/2 Warp. Performance is *much* better, particularly with 16-bit Windows applications. DOS app performance also seems better while running one session, though I suspect OS/2 Warp does a better job of handling multiple sessions. It's been as stable as OS/2 so far, but I have yet to really start pushing it. The DriveSpace compression program is much much better than Stacker for OS/2 and DOS. Plug and Play really works! I set up Win95 while I had the TP away from my Port Replicator I. It auto-detected and set up the Intel Faxmodem. When I attached the Port Replicator and booted up, Win95 auto-detected the different monitor, the two extra PCMCIA slots, and even the printer, an HP LaserJet 4L, and set up a new configuration that it's smart enough to switch to when docked. This is really slick. I've done a pretty good job so far of setting driver support up. If I load VESA.EXE in config.sys, I can use the Win95 Western Digital drivers no problem. I can do dynamic resolution changes. I loaded the Win 3.1 sound drivers for WAV and MIDI support, and they work fine. The PCMCIA stuff in Win 95 works just fine. It doesn't turn on the little green PCMCIA light on my TP's row of indicator lights, but I never liked that light anyway. Power management seems to be the only problem. I loaded "Advanced Power Management with Intel SL support" upon install. The battery guage shows up on the taskbar, but the Power Management control panel won't give me the option of adding "suspend" to the Start menu (maybe this just hasn't been implemented yet). Sometimes when I use the keyboard suspend option, it works. Other times, it doesn't. When I resume, the speaker light flashes when sounds are played (it doesn't before suspending). I can't suspend from the ThinkPad Features Fuel program. I can't hibernate at all--trying to do so just lands me in suspend mode. I suspect that if I start playing around with mixing the real-mode card and socket services drivers and maybe change the PCMCIA configuration around some I can get it all working just the way I want it (transparently, like the rest of the OS seems to work.) If anyone has this done already, I sure would appreciate it if you would reply via e-mail. I fooled around for a long time getting this stuff to work just right under OS/2, and I don't quite feel like going through that again. Thank You. Wesley T. Dunaway From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 05:40:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24226; Tue, 18 Apr 95 05:40:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22704; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 05:26:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 05:26:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22676; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 05:26:36 -0400 Received: from fas by husc.harvard.edu with SMTP; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 05:26:31 -0400 Message-Id: <199504180926.FAA25351@husc.harvard.edu> Received: from fas.harvard.edu by fas (5.0/16.2) id AA12927; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 05:25:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 05:25:11 -0400 X-Sender: chan4@scunix3.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: chan4@husc.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan) Subject: Hard Drive Cases... I saw an ad for hard drive cases ($135)... The place selling them is called Indus Group, and the number is 800-644-6387. Just passing this info. along. If anyone has ordered from this group before, is the service and price good? -- Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com chan4@fas.harvard.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 06:13:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27684; Tue, 18 Apr 95 06:13:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25805; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 06:01:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 06:01:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25795; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 06:01:22 -0400 Received: by chorus.chorus.fr; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:01:10 +0200 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:01:10 +0200 From: Stephane Eranian Message-Id: <199504181001.AA00438@chorus.chorus.fr> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Linux+dosemu+superstor.... Hello, I wonder if somebody on this list ever succeeded to access a compressed DOS partition. My TP comes with SuperStor. I made a 40MB DOS partition and decided to use Superstor so as to get approximatively 80MB of DOS free space. I have kept 4MB of non-compressed space (logically D:). I used dosemu0.60, my DOS *physical* DOS parition is named /dev/hda1. So I inserted the following line in the /etc/dosemu.conf file: disk { partition "/dev/hda1" } And commented my diskimage configuration. Now when I boot the system, I get the DOS banner "Lancement d'IBM DOS...." (french language spoken here). The superStor driver has been found on the partition. I see Compressed UNIT: C:, NON compressed unit: D: (or something very similar). The DOS executes the config.sys, I use a file with multiple menu choices. The selection comes up normally. But after my selection is made, the DOS fails indicating that command.com cannot be found in C:\command.com (I do have one actually). I made the same but this time I previously removed the config.sys and autoexec.bat. I get the same result: command.com not found on C:. the system does not seem to recognize the compressed unit. Luckily, I have a copy of my command.com on the non compressed unit (D:). When I launch D:\command.com, it's ok but going to C: gives me an error. Does someone already have the same problem ? Is there something special to indicate in the /etc/dosemu.conf file ? Or perphaps is there known incompatibilites between dosemu and superstor ? Thanks! -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 10:49:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08643; Tue, 18 Apr 95 10:49:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14594; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:31:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:31:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns9000.furman.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14584; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:31:02 -0400 From: Received: from by ns9000.furman.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.15/16.2) id AA074454987; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:23:08 -0400 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 10:22:39 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Windows 95 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Item Subject: Message text >>Your performance numbers are not that >>much of a suprise given that you ran >>OS/2 on a stacked FAT partition. I *have* run it on a stacked FAT partition. This I found to be too slow to tolerate. Recently, I have been running, like you, with a complete HPFS system. Without compression, though, it's been hard to find disk space on my little 170MB hard drive. >>I run OS/2 >>on my thinkpad and have set it up with an HPFS >>partition. Performance if VERY much faster than >>running under FAT. I agree. Wesley Dunaway From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 14:01:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09761; Tue, 18 Apr 95 14:01:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28935; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:42:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:42:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28924; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:42:26 -0400 Received: from bnme (bnme.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.152.138]) by cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA14772; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:40:48 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:40:48 -0400 Message-Id: <199504181740.NAA14772@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov> X-Sender: bnm@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1b10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: chan4@husc.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: "Brooks N. McNeely" Subject: Re: Hard Drive Cases... At 05:25 AM 4/18/95 -0400, Derek V. Chan wrote: >I saw an ad for hard drive cases ($135)... > >The place selling them is called Indus Group, and the number is >800-644-6387. Just passing this info. along. If anyone has ordered from >this group before, is the service and price good? >-- > Derek V. Chan > dvchan@netcom.com > chan4@fas.harvard.edu > Spring Comdex starts next week in Atlanta. There's a good chance that the manufacturer may have a booth. If so, there's a fair chance that they may have a "show special" which may be a better price than one can normally get. These trade shows are one place where the vendors often by-pass their resellers, whether it's strictly allowed by their contractual agreements or not. Brooks From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 15:30:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22539; Tue, 18 Apr 95 15:30:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03530; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:55:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:55:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03513; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:55:44 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA16919; Tue, 18 Apr 95 14:56:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 14:56:27 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504181856.AA16919@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: Dunaway_Wesley/furman@furman.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Windows 95 it seems a shame to have a thinkpad with only 170M of disk. My advice to someone would be that if you can't afford at least a 350M disk, look at a less expensive machine in the first place. 170M is simply too small a disk these days. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 17:19:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06588; Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:19:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14078; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:56:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:56:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14058; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:56:52 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA13376 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:56:45 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA34371; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:57:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:57:34 -0400 From: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu (Joshua Hosseinoff) Message-Id: <9504182057.AA34371@yu1.yu.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Parallel port sound card? Does anyone know of a parallel port sound card that works with games like Doom? Since the builtin sound on the 750's and 755's (with the exception of the CE and CD) aren't register compatible with Soundblaster, they don't work with the Protected mode quasi-operating system that doom uses. Josh Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 17:52:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12022; Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:52:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17278; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:39:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:39:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17265; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:39:39 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA18616; Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:40:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:40:14 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504182140.AA18616@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? DOOM works fine on the 755, I play it all the time with sound, you have to run in a full screen session. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 18:52:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20160; Tue, 18 Apr 95 18:52:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21382; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:29:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:29:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21371; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:29:13 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA26835 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:28:53 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199504182228.AA26835@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Windows 95 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:29:06 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Dunaway_Wesley/furman@furman.edu" at Apr 18, 95 00:11:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Windows 95 Preview Program is up and running on my ThinkPad 750! > (monochrome LCD, 33MHz, 20MB RAM). I'm quite pleased so far. I think I > like it better than OS/2 Warp. Performance is *much* better, I had the same inital reaction about Win95 being "better" than Warp. After some use though, I came across a number of things that _really_ bugged me. First, the multi-tasking is still not up to par. Another thing that bugged me was the way Win95 seems to push you into its way of doing things...I don't know if that makes sense, but it started to bug me after a bit. Although there are many choices available, it still seemed to be all too restricted. And the pop-up menu choices...which human factors guy designed those? Another important thing is that I do a lot of cross-platform things and need long filenames. Win95 may have long filenames under the GUI, but if you need to use a DOS-based app like perl or even zip, you lose the long filenames. Hopefully, that'll be fixed as new apps come out. One thing that was a plus at first rapidly became an annoyance and that is the 3-d effects and little animations all over. I think the animations can be shut off at least, although they did impress all my friends! ;) The instant make-over for existing apps is also a nice touch. I'm surprised that you think perf is much better with Win95 even with 20 mb RAM. If you had less than 16, I wouldn't find it surprising, but you seem to be at the mark that I needed to overcome in order to really see Warp move smoothly... > particularly with 16-bit Windows applications. DOS app performance also > seems better while running one session, though I suspect OS/2 Warp does > a better job of handling multiple sessions. It's been as stable as OS/2 I don't think DOS perf under Win95 is anywhere _near_ DOS perf under OS/2 _if_ you take the time to tweak things under OS/2. > so far, but I have yet to really start pushing it. The DriveSpace > compression program is much much better than Stacker for OS/2 and DOS. One thing is that Win95 and Warp _both_ seem to be a step backward in stability! Boy, if a unix only had Photoshop... The integration that Win95 achieves with its applets is truly awe-inspiring though... > Plug and Play really works! I set up Win95 while I had the TP away from Yeah, it took me by surprise. > no problem. I can do dynamic resolution changes. I loaded the Win 3.1 Dynamic resolutions changes are definately a nice point. > Power management seems to be the only problem. I loaded "Advanced Power Surprise! :) Maybe one day, notebook manufacturers and OS makers can get a clue and get power management down pat... > can't suspend from the ThinkPad Features Fuel program. I can't > hibernate at all--trying to do so just lands me in suspend mode. I hate to ask, but have you made sure you have a hibernation file? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 20:01:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00273; Tue, 18 Apr 95 20:01:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27488; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 19:46:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 19:46:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27469; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 19:46:52 -0400 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (koriel.Sun.COM) id AA15892; Tue, 18 Apr 95 16:46:37 PDT Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA29777; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:46:33 -0700 Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05024; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:44:05 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:44:05 -0700 From: Bob.Page@Eng.Sun.COM (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9504182344.AA05024@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Windows 95 In-Reply-To: <199504182228.AA26835@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <199504182228.AA26835@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> > Boy, if a unix only had Photoshop... Runs fine on Solaris/SPARC. I assume it also runs on SGI machines. ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 20:53:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09663; Tue, 18 Apr 95 20:53:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01627; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 20:39:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 20:39:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01599; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 20:39:43 -0400 Received: from p28.slip.net (sfsp112.slip.net [204.160.88.142]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA05832; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:39:26 -0700 Message-Id: <199504190039.RAA05832@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:40:07 -0700 To: Sean Chou , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: Windows 95 At 05:29 PM 4/18/95 -0500, Sean Chou wrote: >One thing is that Win95 and Warp _both_ seem to be a step backward >in stability! Boy, if a unix only had Photoshop... I hear you.. I understand there's a photoshop for solaris, but not for solaris x86.. I'd switch if there were. ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 22:43:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27881; Tue, 18 Apr 95 22:43:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09114; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 22:27:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 22:27:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from houws001.shl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09104; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 22:27:38 -0400 Received: from houmg001.shl.com by houws001.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.8) id AA16641; Tue, 18 Apr 95 21:28:08 CDT Received: by houmg001.shl.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F949116@houmg001.shl.com>; Tue, 18 Apr 95 21:27:02 PDT From: NELSON Tim To: tp750 Subject: RE: Windows 95 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 19:15:00 PDT Message-Id: <2F949116@houmg001.shl.com> Encoding: 56 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I am running a TP750Ce with a Dock-1 I just installed Windows 95 (final beta release) from scratch (that is, I did a DELTREE on my WINDOWS directory). I did the following: 1) installed Windows 95 from CD-ROM taking all the defaults At this point, Everything kinda worked, except my PCMCIA slots, sound, and COM port. 2) I installed the Audio Features from the Audio Features Diskette v 1.31 It didn't work at first, so I editted SYSTEM.INI and put the following in [386enh] section: device=tpaudvxd.386 All the other sections in SYSTEM.INI were set up OK, and all the files were copied to the right place. Just the [386enh] section was wrong. 3) I "Added new Hardware", and told it I had a COMMUNICATION port. It didn't believe me at first, so I editted SYSTEM.INI and put the following in [386enh] section: ;device=*vcd device=ibmvcd.386 Note that I commented out the device=*.vcd I copied ibmvcd.386 from the IBM Utility Disk 2 (of 2) release 2.00 to \WINDOWS\SYSTEM it works. 4) I went into control panel, PCMCIA, and told it that it was supposed to be on when docked. I do not remember the exact steps... I hacked at it until it worked... So the question is... Did I miss anything? ---------------------------------------------------- Timothy Nelson Chief Scientist, SHL Systemhouse Corp. internet: tnelson@shl.com ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 23:51:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08051; Tue, 18 Apr 95 23:51:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14007; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:38:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:37:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13996; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:37:56 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id XAA02578; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:41:33 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:41:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Sean Chou Cc: tp Subject: Re: Windows 95 In-Reply-To: <199504182228.AA26835@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 18 Apr 1995, Sean Chou wrote: > One thing is that Win95 and Warp _both_ seem to be a step backward > in stability! Boy, if a unix only had Photoshop... Does Solaris count? Sun _gives_ away Photoshop with a lot of Sun purchases. (Or at least they were at SIGGRAPH last year) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 19 14:13:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02741; Wed, 19 Apr 95 14:13:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12922; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:46:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:46:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns9000.furman.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12904; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:46:29 -0400 From: Received: from by ns9000.furman.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.15/16.2) id AA172453650; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:47:31 -0400 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:46:53 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2F949116@houmg001.shl.com> Subject: RE: Windows 95 To: tnelson@shl.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Item Subject: Message text > I am running a TP750Ce with a Dock-1 I don't know much about the Dock-1 (except that it seems to cause people lots of driver problems when they try to get it to work.) > I just installed Windows 95 (final beta release) >from scratch (that is, I > did a DELTREE on my WINDOWS directory). Okay. > > I did the following: > > 1) installed Windows 95 from CD-ROM taking all the defaults > > At this point, Everything kinda worked, except my PCMCIA slots, sound, and > COM port. The PCMCIA slots didn't work because you have to use the PC Card wizard to set them up after the initial install (protects you if you had real-mode drivers running before.) The sound didn't work because Win95 doesn't have native drivers for it. I don't know why the COM port didn't work. I know mine is listed in the hardware list, but I've not actually tried using it to see if it works (just assumed that it would). > 2) I installed the Audio Features from the Audio Features Diskette v 1.31 > > It didn't work at first, so I editted SYSTEM.INI and put the following in > [386enh] section: > > device=tpaudvxd.386 > > All the other sections in SYSTEM.INI were set up OK, and all the files were > copied to the right place. Just the [386enh] section was wrong. Yep. That's just what I did. > 3) I "Added new Hardware", and told it I had a COMMUNICATION port. > > It didn't believe me at first, so I editted SYSTEM.INI and put the following > in [386enh] section: > > ;device=*vcd > device=ibmvcd.386 > > Note that I commented out the device=*.vcd > I copied ibmvcd.386 from the IBM Utility Disk 2 (of 2) release 2.00 to > \WINDOWS\SYSTEM > > it works. > > Okay. > 4) I went into control panel, PCMCIA, and told it that it was supposed to be > on when docked. Okay. > I do not remember the exact steps... I hacked at it until it worked... > > > So the question is... Did I miss anything? Don't think so. You didn't mention video, though. To use the Win95 Western Digital driver at any resolution higher than 640x480x16, the VESA.EXE driver from the Video Features disk must be loaded in config.sys. I'm assuming that the 750 and the 750Ce have the same video specs (I'm pretty sure they do.) Wesley Dunaway From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 19 14:22:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03827; Wed, 19 Apr 95 14:22:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14837; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:06:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:06:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14826; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:06:32 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15031; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:05:23 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id LAA06065; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:05:22 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9504191105.ZM6063@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:05:21 -0700 In-Reply-To: Bob.Page@Eng.Sun.COM (Bob Page) "Re: Windows 95" (Apr 18, 4:44pm) References: <199504182228.AA26835@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> <9504182344.AA05024@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Windows 95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Apr 18, 4:44pm, Bob Page wrote: > Subject: Re: Windows 95 > > Boy, if a unix only had Photoshop... > > Runs fine on Solaris/SPARC. I assume it also runs on SGI machines. > > ..bob >-- End of excerpt from Bob Page Yep. Runs on SGI's (IRIX 5.x) as well (and about an order of magnitude faster). Robert -- -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 19 17:59:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06047; Wed, 19 Apr 95 17:59:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00695; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:41:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:41:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00685; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:41:10 -0400 Received: from ppp13.basenet.net (ppp13.basenet.net [204.248.92.13]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA01482 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 15:40:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 15:40:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199504192040.PAA01482@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: PC Factory Outlet Several of you have asked me about the IBM PC Factory Outlet. I just requested their latest offering list. They told me that would be OK by them if I put the list out to you. There is a lot more than just laptops. I have been unable to locate it on the Net but that doesn't mean that it isn't there. I know none of us are real keen on the idea of advertising on the net, so I thought I'd ask you all first if you have a problem with me distributing it to this list until I get it up on my homepage (hopefully in May). I don't get any money for doing it (boy, wouldn't that be nice). It comes out about once a month. Let me know and I'll let majority rule on the decision, unless I'm told otherwise by the powers that be. |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 19 20:01:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25972; Wed, 19 Apr 95 20:01:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08926; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:51:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:51:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08905; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:51:28 -0400 Received: from hp.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA19966; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:50:05 -0600 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.16//ident-1.0) id AA109145839; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:57:19 -0600 Message-Id: <199504192357.AA109145839@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: PC Factory Outlet To: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:57:18 -0600 (MDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199504192040.PAA01482@mtvernon1.basenet.net> from "Kris D. Williams" at Apr 19, 95 03:40:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Several of you have asked me about the IBM PC Factory Outlet. I just > requested their latest offering list. They told me that would be OK by them > if I put the list out to you. There is a lot more than just laptops. > > I have been unable to locate it on the Net but that doesn't mean that it > isn't there. I know none of us are real keen on the idea of advertising on > the net, so I thought I'd ask you all first if you have a problem with me > distributing it to this list until I get it up on my homepage (hopefully in > May). I don't get any money for doing it (boy, wouldn't that be nice). It > comes out about once a month. Let me know and I'll let majority rule on the > decision, unless I'm told otherwise by the powers that be. I'm all for it. I like to see what is available and what things are selling for. Since you won't be getting a kick back on sales it seems more like its an offering of info rather than a commercial thing. > |===============================================================| > |Kris D. Williams | > |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | > |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | > |My opinions are my own (really!) | > |===============================================================| +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 19 21:59:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14061; Wed, 19 Apr 95 21:59:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16599; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:52:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:52:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16587; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:52:07 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA25656; Wed, 19 Apr 95 21:51:32 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 21:51:32 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504200151.AA25656@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: PCCHAN@POMONA.EDU, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU use Adlib sound, this is usually the choice that works best for many games. definitely it is NOT the PC speaker! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 19 22:07:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15047; Wed, 19 Apr 95 22:07:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16272; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:48:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:48:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from thumper.pomona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16261; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:48:43 -0400 Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #9731) id <01HPJ7IS7ON48WXX1G@POMONA.EDU>; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:47:36 -0700 (PDT) From: scooby doo Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? In-Reply-To: Your message dated "Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:40:14 -0400" <9504182140.AA18616@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HPJ7MXJLUG8WXX1G@POMONA.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >DOOM works fine on the 755, I play it all the time with sound, you have >to run in a full screen session. really? is this SB sound or PC speaker? i have a TP755 and I can never get it to work under SB emulation because it doesnt work under protected mode. how do you do it? paul From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 19 22:11:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15093; Wed, 19 Apr 95 22:11:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17107; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:58:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:58:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from thumper.pomona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17097; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:58:05 -0400 Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #9731) id <01HPJ7IS7ON48WXX1G@POMONA.EDU>; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:56:39 -0700 (PDT) From: scooby doo Subject: windows 3.11 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HPJ7WQ3SXM8WXX1G@POMONA.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT i know this is slightly off topic but someone mentioned that they downloaded the windows 3.11 for workgroups upgrade from microsoft. i have a tp755 that came with win 3.1 and i was wondering if anyone knew where i could get 3.11 thanks in advace paul From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 19 22:41:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19297; Wed, 19 Apr 95 22:41:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19951; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 22:34:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 22:34:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19940; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 22:34:33 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA25967; Wed, 19 Apr 95 22:35:11 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 22:35:11 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504200235.AA25967@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: PCCHAN@POMONA.EDU, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU yup works just fine, been dooming away with sound on my TP755 for a while using adlib as the sound selection. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 19 22:41:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19405; Wed, 19 Apr 95 22:41:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19505; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 22:29:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 22:29:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from thumper.pomona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19489; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 22:29:10 -0400 Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #9731) id <01HPJ917VT288WXYO3@POMONA.EDU>; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:28:43 -0700 (PDT) From: scooby doo Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? In-Reply-To: Your message dated "Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:51:32 -0400" <9504200151.AA25656@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HPJ91JSVGI8WXYO3@POMONA.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT adlib sound works for protected mode games like doom? ???? paul From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 08:22:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08064; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:22:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02814; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:03:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:03:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02804; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:03:15 -0400 Received: from ppp6.basenet.net (ppp6.basenet.net [204.248.92.6]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA32391 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 06:02:12 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 06:02:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199504201102.GAA32391@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: PC Factory offering list Here it is. Whenever I get new ones I'll send them out. THE IBM PC FACTORY OUTLET WELCOME TO THE IBM PC FACTORY OUTLET AND PC FACTORY OUTLET STORE!! 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DATA, 9600 DATA/FAX or 14.4 DATA/FAX) : ALL PS/1's listed above have Microsoft WORKS for Windows and Prodigy software preloaded in additon to DOS and= Windows! -SYSTEMS ABOVE DO NOT INCLUDE A MONITOR UNLESS NOTED.- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ** VALUEPOINT PERFORMANCE SERIES SYSTEMS ** EQUIV SLOT/ OPEN INCL MODEL PROC-MHZ COND MODEL MEM HD GRAPH BIT BAY S PRICE -------- -------- ---- --- --- ----- ----- ---- --- --- ----- 6492-E3J 486DX2-66 RFRB L0D 4MB NONE SVGA 8-16 5 N $1175 6472-E04 486SX-33 RFRB C3B 4MB 270MB SVGA 3-16 1 D/W $1210 6472-E06 486DX-33 RFRB H0D 4MB NONE SVGA 3-16 2 N $1240 6482-E13 486SX-33 RFRB C3B 4MB 270MB SVGA 5-16 3 D/W $1260 6472-E0B 486DX-33 RFRB H3B 4MB 270MB SVGA 3-16 1 D/W $1340 6482-E1H 486DX-33 RFRB H4F 8MB 364MB SVGA 5-16 3 D/W $1620 - 3-Year Warranty (1st Year On-Site, next 2 years Carry In) ** VALUEPOINT SPACESAVER SYSTEMS ** EQUIV SLOT/ OPEN INCL MODEL PROC-MHZ COND MODEL MEM HD GRAPH BIT BAY S PRICE -------- -------- ---- --- --- ----- ----- ---- --- --- ----- 6382-F00 486SX-25 NEW - 4MB NONE SVGA 3-16 2 N $ 479= NEW 6381-F30 486SX-25 NEW - 4MB 120MB SVGA 3-16 1 D/W $ 665 ** VALUEPOINT DESKTOP SYSTEMS ** EQUIV SLOT/ OPEN INCL MODEL PROC-MHZ COND MODEL MEM HD GRAPH BIT BAY S PRICE -------- -------- ---- --- --- ----- ----- ---- --- --- ----- 6384-E1B 486SX-33 RFRB L40 4MB 170MB SVGA 5-16 3 O2 $ 725 6384-E04 486DX2-66 RFRB W00 4MB NONE SVGA 5-16 4 N $ 899= NEW 6387-X00 486DX2-66 NEW - 4MB NONE SVGA 5-16 4 N $ 995= NEW 6384-W00 486DX2-66 RFRB - 4MB NONE SVGA 5-16 4 N $ 999= NEW 6384-E1Z PENT-60 RFRB 199 16MB 527MB SVGA 4-16 3 N $2899= NEW ( NOTE : VALUEPOINT SYSTEMS DO NOT INCLUDE A MONITOR ) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ** PS/2 DESKTOP SYSTEMS *** EQUIV SLOT/ OPEN INCL MODEL PROC-MHZ COND MODEL MEM HD GRAPH BIT BAY S PRICE -------- -------- ---- --- --- ----- ----- ---- --- --- ----- 9553-4Y1 486SLC2-50 RFRB 0B7 4MB 120MB SVGA 3-16 1 D/W $ 495 9556-4Y4 486SLC2-50 RFRB 2BX 4MB T/R XGA-2 2-16 3 N $ 539 9556-4YB 486SLC2-50 RFRB 0B6 8MB 104MB XGA-2 3-16 1 O2 $ 619 9556-4Y8 486SLC2-50 RFRB DB6 8MB 104MB XGA-2 3-16 1 D/W $ 779= NEW 9557-4Y5 486SLC2-50 RFRB DBA 8MB 208MB XGA-2 5-16 2 D/W $ 845 9556-4Y7 486SLC2-50 RFRB DBA 8MB 208MB XGA-2 3-16 1 D/W $ 869 9576-4Y3 486SX-33 RFRB DUA 8MB 208MB XGA-2 2-32 1 D/W $1149 9577-4Y9 486SX-33 RFRB DUA 8MB 208MB XGA-2 4-32 2 D/W $1249 9556-4YH 486SLC3-75 RFRB DED 8MB 340MB XGA-2 3-16 1 D/W $1289 9577-4Y7 486DX2-66 RFRB DNA 8MB 208MB XGA-2 4-32 2 D/W $1399 9557-4YM 486SLC3-75 RFRB DEG 8MB 540MB XGA-2 5-16 3 D/W $1489 9556-4YC 486SLC2-50 RFRB 0BA 8MB 212MB XGA-2 3-16 1 O2 $1725= NEW 9576-4YA 486DX4-100 RFRB ATB 8MB 270MB SVGA 3-16 1 D/W $1949 - ALL THE PS/2 SYSTEMS LISTED ABOVE ARE MICROCHANNEL ARCHITECTURE. - OPERATING SYSTEMS ARE NOT PRE-LOADED, THE DISKETTES WILL SHIP IN A SEPERATE BOX. - THESE SYSTEMS INCLUDE A 3-YEAR ON-SITE WARRANTY. - MONITOR IS NOT INCLUDED. SEE OUR MONITOR SELECTION BELOW !!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- ******** M O B I L E S ******** ** REFURBISHED THINKPAD 755 MODELS ** MODEL PROC/MHZ COND MEM HD SCREEN/TYPE ORIG MODEL PRICE -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9545-4YJ 486DX2-50 RFRB 4MB 170MB 9.5"/VGA/COLOR THINKPAD 755CS $1899= $$$ 9545-4YK 486DX2-50 RFRB 4MB 340MB 9.5"/VGA/COLOR THINKPAD 755CS $2249= $$$ 9545-4YL 486DX2-50 RFRB 4MB 540MB 9.5"/VGA/COLOR THINKPAD 755CS $2549= $$$ 9545-4YM 486DX4-75 RFRB 4MB 170MB 9.5"/VGA/COLOR THINKPAD 755CS $2399= $$$ 9545-4YR 486DX2-50 RFRB 4MB 170MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 755C $2565= $$$ 9545-4YS 486DX2-50 RFRB 4MB 340MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 755C $2879= $$$ 9545-4YT 486DX2-50 RFRB 4MB 540MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 755C $3149= $$$ 9545-4YU 486DX4-75 RFRB 4MB 170MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 755C $2999= $$$ 9545-4YV 486DX4-75 RFRB 4MB 340MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 755C $3345= $$$ 9545-4YW 486DX4-75 RFRB 4MB 540MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 755C $3649= $$$ ** REFURBISHED THINKPAD 755 ENHANCED MODELS ** MODEL PROC/MHZ COND MEM HD SCREEN/TYPE ORIG MODEL = PRICE ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- 9545-4Z9 486DX4-100 RFRB 8MB 540MB 10.4"/VGA/COLOR THINKPAD 755CSE = $3855 9545-4ZB 486DX4-100 RFRB 8MB 340MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 755CE = $4369 9545-4ZC 486DX4-100 RFRB 8MB 540MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 755CE = $4675 9545-4ZD 486DX4-100 RFRB 8MB 810MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 755CE = $5065 - ALL THINKPAD 755 MODELS INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING PRE-INSTALLED SOFTWARE - IBM PC DOS 6.3 - Microsoft Windows 3.1 - LOTUS Organizer V1.12 - LOTUS ScreenCam V1.0 - Prodigy - LOTUS cc:Mail - Official Airline Guide - OAG Flight Disk=7F - THINKPAD 755 ENHANCED MODELS ALSO INCLUDE A 14.4 DATA/FAX MODEM !! (ASK YOUR FACTORY OUTLET REPRESENTATIVE FOR MORE EXCITING DETAILS ABOUT ALL THE THINKPAD 755 MODELS !!!) ** THINKPAD 350, PS/NOTE AND THINKPAD 750 MODELS ** NEW MODELS MODEL PROC/MHZ COND MEM HD SCREEN/TYPE ORIG MODEL PRICE -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2618-P0A 486SL-25 NEW 4MB 250MB 9.2"/VGA/COLOR THINKPAD 350C $1699 9545-306 486SL-33 NEW 4MB 170MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 750C $2999 REFURBISHED MODELS MODEL PROC/MHZ COND MEM HD SCREEN/TYPE ORIG MODEL PRICE -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2615-4Y1 386SL-25 RFRB 4MB 80MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 300 $ 499= NEW 2615-4Y2 386SL-25 RFRB 4MB 120MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 300 $ 619= NEW 2618-4Y6 486SL-25 RFRB 4MB 85MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD PS/NOTE E35 $ 649= NEW 2618-4Y7 486SL-25 RFRB 4MB 125MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD PS/NOTE M40 $ 799= NEW 2618-4Y1 486SL-25 RFRB 4MB 125MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 350 $ 829 2603-4Y4 486SLC2-50 RFRB 4MB 170MB 7.4"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 500 $ 899= NEW 2618-4Y3 486SL-25 RFRB 4MB 250MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 350 $ 949= NEW 2610-4Y1 486SLC2-50 RFRB 4MB 125MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 340 $ 999= NEW 2618-4Y5 486SL-25 RFRB 4MB 125MB 9.2"/VGA/COLOR PS/NOTE C45 $1269 9552-4Y5 486SLC2-50 RFRB 4MB 160MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 720 $1445= NEW - - - - - - - - - ** IBM MONITORS * EQUIV MAXIMUM DOT MODEL COND MODEL TYPE VSS* RESOLUTN PITCH GRAPHICS PRICE --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6314-01J RFRB 6314011 14" COLOR 12.0 1280X1024 .28 SVGA $ 279 6312-001 NEW - 14" COLOR 11.8 1024X 768 .28 SVGA $ 299 6324-00J RFRB 6324001 14" COLOR 13.1 1280X1024 .28 SVGA $ 299= NEW 6314-001 NEW - 14" COLOR 12.0 1280X1024 .28 SVGA $ 329 6314-011 NEW - 14" COLOR 12.0 1280X1024 .28 SVGA $ 329 8514-001 NEW - 16" COLOR 13.9 1024X 768 .31 XGA-2 $ 379= NEW 5179328 RFRB 73G3241 15" COLOR 13.5 1024X 768 .28 SVGA $ 389 9524-00J RFRB 9524001 14" COLOR 13.0 1024x 768 .28 SVGA $ 529= NEW 9525-00J RFRB 9525001 15" COLOR 13.7 1280X1024 .28 SVGA $ 605 9525-B0J RFRB 9525001 15" COLOR 13.7 1280X1024 .28 SVGA $ 605 6317-M0J RFRB 6317M01 17" COLOR 14.7 1280X1024 .28 SVGA $ 699= NEW 9517-00J RFRB 9517001 17" COLOR 14.7 1360x1024 .26 XGA-2 $ 925 9524-T0J RFRB 9524T01 14" TOUCH 13.0 1280X1024 .28 SVGA $ 949 9525-T0J RFRB 9525T01 15" TOUCH 13.7 1280X1024 .28 SVGA $1049 9527-00J RFRB 9527001 17" COLOR 15.4 1360X1024 .26 SVGA $1049= NEW 9527-T2J RFRB 9527T21 17" TOUCH 15.4 1360X1024 .26 SVGA $1949 9521-T0J RFRB 9521T01 21" TOUCH 19.1 1600X1200 .31 SVGA $2545 * Maximum Diagonal Viewable Screen size in Inches. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTE: DESCRIPTIONS ARE CONDENSED, ALWAYS CONFIRM APPLICATION OF FEATURES AND OPTIONS WITH YOUR IBM PC FACTORY OUTLET MARKETING REPRESENTATIVE. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ **LEGEND** RFRB =3D REFURBISHED S =3D SOFTWARE N =3D NO D =3D DOS 5.02 W =3D DOS 5.02 AND WIN 3.1 O2 =3D OS/2 PRELOADED D/W =3D DOS 6.0 AND WIN 3.1 E/NET =3D Ethernet Card T/R =3D Token-Ring TFT =3D ACTIVE MATRIX $$$ =3D PRICE REDUCTION NEW =3D NEW TO THE LIST SINCE LAST UPDATE --------------------------------------------------------------------------- **ANYONE CAN OBTAIN THIS PRICE LIST VIA FAX 24 HRS A DAY! JUST: 1. CALL 1-800-426-3395 2. PRESS OPTION #1 (END-USER) 3. PRESS OPTION #1 4. PRESS OPTION #1 AGAIN TO ENTER YOUR DOCUMENT # 5. ENTER 3001 AND THE # KEY WHEN ASKED FOR DOCUMENT NUMBER. 6. Follow voice instructions. **TO ORDER LITERATURE ON THE ABOVE SYSTEMS, USE OUR AUTOMATED FAX SYSTEM **THE FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS: 1. CALL 1-800-426-3395. 2. PRESS OPTION #1 (END-USER). 3. PRESS OPTION #1 4. PRESS OPTION #1 AGAIN TO ENTER YOUR DOCUMENT # 5. SELECT FAXBACK DOCUMENT # FROM BELOW (UP TO 5) 6. FOLLOW VOICE INSTRUCTIONS. Doc.# Part# Model / Description Pages --------------------------------------------------------------- 11637 9545-XXX TPAD 755C/755CS/755CSE 4 11101 2604-4Y4 THINKPAD 510CS BROCHURE 3 11099 6472-XXX ValuePoint Performance 6 60043 9545-xxx THINKPAD 755 OVERVIEW 1 11008 6381-XXX ValuePoint Si Models 4 11427 9545-XXX THINKPAD 750 OVERVIEW 1 11365 9545-XXX THINKPAD 750 BROCHURE 10 11377 2603-XXX THINKPAD 500 BROCHURE 5 60039 6384-XXX Valuepoint Fall 93 Models 1 60041 6381-XXX Valuepoint Si Models 1 60031 OS/2 2.1 OS/2 2.1 Compared to Win3.1 1 18520 2133-18T PS/1 Standard Features 1 18522 2155-24C " 1 18672 2155-50T " 1 18534 2155-52C " 1 18674 2155-74T " 1 18543 2155-76C " 1 18547 2155-84T " 1 18678 2168-31E " 1 18679 2168-33T " 1 18681 2168-51E " 1 18680 2168-54T " 1 Please NOTE: All software promotional offerings and/or references to ordering the PS/1 Software Showcase on the above PS/1 FAXBACK Documents have expired. ****************************************************************************= * |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D|=20 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 08:35:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09328; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:35:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04879; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:29:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:29:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04859; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:29:10 -0400 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (koriel.Sun.COM) id AA03452; Thu, 20 Apr 95 05:29:00 PDT Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA24867; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 05:28:56 -0700 Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA21574; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 05:28:57 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19732; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 05:29:20 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 05:29:20 -0700 From: cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9504201229.AA19732@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: PCCHAN@POMONA.EDU, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU adlib sound only works on tp755cE models with the Mwave chip. 750C and 755C (or Cs) users don't get sound with doom. This is because you can't emulate the soundblaster when the application goes into proteted mod and the original sound chip is not "register" compatible with the SB. The MWave chip _is_ compatible. --Chuck From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 08:48:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12071; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:48:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05577; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:39:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:39:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05567; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:39:27 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA10570; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:39:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:39:57 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504201239.AA10570@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: PCCHAN@POMONA.EDU, cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU stop telling me I don't get sound with Doom on a 755C. I am running the original shareware episode on my 755C in a DOS full window with full sound. Chuck, if you want to come by my apartment sometime, you can listen to my 755C Dooming around :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 09:33:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18014; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:33:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09436; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:23:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:23:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09421; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:23:52 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA19663; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:23:48 -0500 Message-Id: <9504201323.AA19663@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:24:44 EDT From: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? On Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:39:57 -0400 you wrote: >stop telling me I don't get sound with Doom on a 755C. I am running the >original shareware episode on my 755C in a DOS full window with full >sound. I've got a TP750. 1) I've never gotten Doom's sound (digital or music) working under DOS. 2) I've gotten Doom's music to work in an OS/2 DOS box. Digital sound is PC-speaker only because ... 3) Doom's digital audio routines are broken -- it doesn't work on virtually all OS/2 machines, and in some DOS machines. Has anyone looked into a possible relationship between this and the sound problems Doom has on the TP? Or are they unrelated? 3a) Doom's digital audio worked under OS/2 back with version 1.1 and 1.2. Has anyone tried these older versions on the TP? _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 09:35:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18156; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:35:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09373; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:23:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:23:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from qrz.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09363; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:23:00 -0400 Received: (from flloyd@localhost) by qrz.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id GAA10247 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 06:22:33 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 06:22:33 -0700 From: Fred Lloyd Message-Id: <199504201322.GAA10247@qrz.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: DC Power Adaptor ? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Is there a DC power adaptor for the TP-750 so that you can operate it on your auto or RV 12V supply? Also, I have the IBM PCMCIA 14.4 data/fax modem for sale. $150 -fred From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 10:01:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21453; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:01:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12144; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:50:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:50:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12122; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:50:44 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA11024; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:51:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:51:30 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504201351.AA11024@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jokim@mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? i never tried on my 750C, only on my 755C, so I can't say anything from experience about the 750C, but on the 755C, Doom works fine with full sound (the only reason I keep repeating this is to make clear that this is based not on guesswork, but my ears :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 10:26:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26663; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:26:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13879; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:12:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:12:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13869; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:12:01 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA10445 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:11:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:11:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199504201411.JAA10445@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: Re: windows 3.11 >i know this is slightly off topic but someone mentioned that they downloaded the windows 3.11 for workgroups upgrade from microsoft. i have a tp755 that came >with win 3.1 and i was wondering if anyone knew where i could get 3.11 > >thanks in advace > >paul > Note that win 3.11 is _not_ windows for workgroups. win 3.11 is just like win 3.1 ; it simply has some bug fixes and updated drivers. windows for workgroups has many more fundamental changes, most notable is its client to client networking (i.e. 'disk sharing'). you can download the win 3.1 to win 3.11 upgrade for free via anonymous ftp to ftp.microsoft.com. look in the 'persops' directory, or something like that (persops=personal operating systems). it wasn't hard to find. -Todd --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 10:54:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29841; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:54:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15735; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:37:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:37:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gsfc.nasa.gov by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15723; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:37:14 -0400 Received: from neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov by gsfc.nasa.gov (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA02943; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:37:06 -0400 Received: from isobar by neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov via SMTP (950215.SGI.8.6.10/920502.SGI) id KAA29511; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:41:52 -0400 Message-Id: <199504201441.KAA29511@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: kirk@neptune X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:41:44 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kirk@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert Kirk) Subject: Re: DC Power Adaptor ? Cc: Fred Lloyd At 06:22 4/20/95 -0700, Fred Lloyd wrote: > >Is there a DC power adaptor for the TP-750 so that you >can operate it on your auto or RV 12V supply? > >Also, I have the IBM PCMCIA 14.4 data/fax modem for sale. $150 > >-fred > Easiest way is to use a dc inverter from your cigarette lighter. Radio Shack and others sell them. An added benefit is that you can use it to power other ac gear in the car, too. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 10:57:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00231; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:57:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16649; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:47:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:47:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rip.psg.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16636; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:47:41 -0400 Received: by rip.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1xW5-00030IC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 07:47 PDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 07:47 PDT From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: OS/2 Excuse the neophyte question. I am a BSDoid, and know I can run BSDI on the 755. But my Father is considering one, and he is an OS/2 user. Does the 755C run Warp with full support of color, PCMCIA, the woiks? randy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 11:35:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06015; Thu, 20 Apr 95 11:35:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19563; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:22:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:22:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19551; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:22:00 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA11994; Thu, 20 Apr 95 11:22:44 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 11:22:44 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504201522.AA11994@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: randy@psg.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp runs very nicely on the 755C, no problem with color, PCMCIA, sound on my machine. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 12:00:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10389; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:00:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21822; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:44:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:44:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21804; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:43:56 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144278>; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:43:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: Robert Dewar's message as of Apr 20, 11:39am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2 Message-Id: <95Apr20.114338edt.144278@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:43:24 -0400 On Apr 20, 11:39am, Robert Dewar wrote: } Subject: Re: OS/2 } Warp runs very nicely on the 755C, no problem with color, PCMCIA, sound } on my machine. I couldn't find a driver supporting 64K colours on the LCD screen. Did I miss it? Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 12:24:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12372; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:24:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23615; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:06:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:06:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23603; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:06:40 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA12438; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:06:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:06:55 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504201606.AA12438@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: elf@dgp.toronto.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2 i have 256 colors, I didn't even know 755c supported 64K colors, but it would not be of interest to me in any case. are you sure it does (support 64K colors). If so, NEC's ads are bogus ... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 14:06:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28647; Thu, 20 Apr 95 14:06:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02057; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:48:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:48:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02036; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:48:07 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id NAA25891; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:51:51 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:51:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Fred Lloyd Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: DC Power Adaptor ? In-Reply-To: <199504201322.GAA10247@qrz.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 20 Apr 1995, Fred Lloyd wrote: > Is there a DC power adaptor for the TP-750 so that you > can operate it on your auto or RV 12V supply? Yep, and I have one. Wired a special cig lighter plug under my seat (geek!) and it is just always there. When I've been using the battery all day and am driving from one place to another, I plug it into my 'pad. Doesn't get a whole lot of use, probably wasn't worth the ~$150 I paid for it, but what the hell, the 'pad itself was a buttload of money anyways. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 16:01:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15204; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:01:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10719; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:46:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:46:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10706; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:46:26 -0400 From: Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.6)/1.0) id AA0047; Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:45:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:45:57 -0400 Message-Id: <9504201945.AA0047@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Cc: elf@dgp.toronto.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:06:55 -0400 from dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Subject: OS/2 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:06:55 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) i have 256 colors, I didn't even know 755c supported 64K colors, but it would not be of interest to me in any case. are you sure it does (support 64K colors). If so, NEC's ads are bogus ... The 755C supports 64k colors on an external monitor at 640x480 resolution. I haven't tried this, but I believe the Warp drivers support it. On the other hand, I can't imagine wanting to run 640x480 on an external monitor -- the only reason I have such a monitor is to run higher resolutions. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 16:20:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17658; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:20:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11945; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:00:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:00:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11917; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:59:57 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA14543; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:00:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:00:39 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504202000.AA14543@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2 Cc: elf@dgp.toronto.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU "The 755C supports 64k colors on an external monitor at 640x480 resolution. I haven't tried this, but I believe the Warp drivers support it. On the other hand, I can't imagine wanting to run 640x480 on an external monitor -- the only reason I have such a monitor is to run higher resolutions." for photo stuff, more colors is more important than higher resolution, certainly the jump from 8-bits to 16-bits is critical. 8-bits is VERY limiting. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 16:23:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18117; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:23:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12535; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:06:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:06:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12524; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:06:15 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25309; Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:03:11 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id NAA06900; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:01:57 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9504201301.ZM6898@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:01:56 -0700 In-Reply-To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) "Re: Parallel port sound card?" (Apr 19, 10:35pm) References: <9504200235.AA25967@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? Cc: PCCHAN@POMONA.EDU, cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Apr 20, 5:29am, Chuck McManis wrote: > Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? > >adlib sound only works on tp755cE models with the Mwave chip. 750C and >755C (or Cs) users don't get sound with doom. This is because you can't >emulate the soundblaster when the application goes into proteted mod and >the original sound chip is not "register" compatible with the SB. The >MWave chip _is_ compatible. On April 20, 8:39am, Robert Dewar wrote: > Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? > >stop telling me I don't get sound with Doom on a 755C. I am running the >original shareware episode on my 755C in a DOS full window with full >sound. > >Chuck, if you want to come by my apartment sometime, you can listen to my >755C Dooming around :-) Sorry for our cynicism Robert, but getting sound to work on Doom has been a holy grail for this group for a long time. :) The first question that came to my mind was whether you had a 755C or a 755CE. Chuck is correct about the sound chip on the 750/755C's being fundamentally incompatible with the SoundBlaster, so sound does not work on Doom on those machines, because they require a SB emulation TSR which only runs in real-mode, and Doom runs in protected mode. My next question was if you had ever heard Doom running on a desktop PC? In other words, are you getting stereo sound effects and especially music on your ThinkPad running Doom? On Apr 19, 10:35pm, Robert Dewar wrote: > Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? > > yup works just fine, been dooming away with sound on my TP755 for a while > using adlib as the sound selection. I've brought up the Doom setup utility on my latop, and under the "Select Sound FX Device" menu, there are five choices, but the Adlib is *NOT* one of them: UltraSound, Pro Audio Spectrum, Sound Blaster, PC Speaker, NONE. If you select one of the sound cards offered, you run into the other serious incompatibility with the ThinkPad's sound chip -- most sound cards want to use IO port 220, interrupt 5 for sound -- the ThinkPad uses IO port 30, interrupt 10. These can be reset, but I'm sure you would have mentioned by now if you needed to to this. My last question is which version of Doom are you running? When you first boot the game, it will mention something about the Doom operating system number. Perhaps Id Software finally added sound support for the ThinkPads in a recent release or patch? Robert -- -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 16:30:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19253; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:30:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12864; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:10:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:10:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12847; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:10:16 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA14703; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:08:35 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:08:35 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504202008.AA14703@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: george@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? Cc: PCCHAN@POMONA.EDU, cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU I will investigate exactly what I see, and report back, right now, something is screwed up and doom won't run at all, never mind sound sign! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 16:47:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21473; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:47:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07682; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:12:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:12:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07669; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:12:41 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144278>; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:11:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: Robert Dewar's message as of Apr 20, 12:33pm X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2 Message-Id: <95Apr20.151158edt.144278@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:11:53 -0400 On Apr 20, 12:33pm, Robert Dewar wrote: } i have 256 colors, I didn't even know 755c supported 64K colors, but it } would not be of interest to me in any case. } are you sure it does (support 64K colors). If so, NEC's ads are bogus ... I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. The CE and CD support 16-bit colour while the "unenhanced" 755's are 8-bit. Eugene. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 17:13:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26670; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:13:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17037; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:57:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:57:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from fosters.roc.servtech.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17025; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:57:02 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:01:28 EST Message-Id: <9504201701.AA24460@fosters.roc.servtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Randall King" Reply-To: To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2 X-Mailer: In reply to: > >On Apr 20, 12:33pm, Robert Dewar wrote: >} i have 256 colors, I didn't even know 755c supported 64K colors, but >}it >} would not be of interest to me in any case. >} are you sure it does (support 64K colors). If so, NEC's ads are >bogus ... >} >I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. The CE and CD support 16-bit colour while >the "unenhanced" 755's are 8-bit. > >Eugene. This is off of the subject just a little, but are the TP 360's only 16 color, or can they go to 256? RK From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 17:43:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28492; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:43:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18034; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:11:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:11:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18021; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:11:19 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144031>; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:11:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: Eugene Fiume's message as of Apr 20, 4:48pm X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2 Message-Id: <95Apr20.171108edt.144031@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:11:00 -0400 On Apr 20, 4:48pm, I wrote: } I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. The CE and CD support 16-bit colour while } the "unenhanced" 755's are 8-bit. } ...and once again I'm not being clear, because what I'm talking about is the main display, not the external display. Eugene. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 17:54:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29065; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:54:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19365; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:28:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:28:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19355; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:28:37 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id RAA13173; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:25:19 -0400 Message-Id: <199504202125.RAA13173@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PC Factory Outlet In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 19 Apr 1995 15:40:10 CDT." <199504192040.PAA01482@mtvernon1.basenet.net> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:25:13 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > Several of you have asked me about the IBM PC Factory Outlet. I just > requested their latest offering list. They told me that would be OK by them > if I put the list out to you. There is a lot more than just laptops. Especially since it's not ThinkPad-oriented, I don't think it's appropriate to post it here. Do they have a web server? If so, you could post their URL here. (If they don't have a web server they should get one!) Or maybe you could make their offering list available on an FTP server, and send us the URL for *that*. Otherwise, maybe people who are interested could let you know by private email, and you could send it to just those who are interested. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 19:27:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12032; Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:27:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24655; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 18:44:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 18:44:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24645; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 18:43:59 -0400 Received: from lochness.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA11319; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:43:24 -0500 Received: by lochness.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA11525; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:43:29 -0500 From: rol@uhc.com (Roleigh Martin) Message-Id: <9504202243.AA11525@lochness.uhc.com> Subject: Re: PC Factory Outlet To: moore@CS.UTK.EDU (Keith Moore) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:43:29 -0500 (CDT) Cc: krisdw@basenet.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199504202125.RAA13173@wilma.cs.utk.edu> from "Keith Moore" at Apr 20, 95 05:25:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry to disagree. There was a huge portion of that list that was dedicated to refurbished Thinkpads. I for one really appreciated seeing the list and I could not think of a more appropriate list for it to be disseminated on. > > > Several of you have asked me about the IBM PC Factory Outlet. I just > > requested their latest offering list. They told me that would be OK by them > > if I put the list out to you. There is a lot more than just laptops. > > Especially since it's not ThinkPad-oriented, I don't think it's > appropriate to post it here. > > Do they have a web server? If so, you could post their URL here. > (If they don't have a web server they should get one!) > > Or maybe you could make their offering list available on an FTP > server, and send us the URL for *that*. > > Otherwise, maybe people who are interested could let you know by > private email, and you could send it to just those who are interested. > > Keith > > -- Roleigh Martin, Rt. MN06-6130 Opinions are mine not UHC | UHC, Advanced Technology AT&T/vmail: (612) 945-6529| 9705 Data Park Drive FAX: (612) 945-6502| Minnetonka, MN 55343 Email: rol@lochness.uhc.com| ** B'days are good for health ** Statistics show that people with most b'days live the longest When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 19:31:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12505; Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:31:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25976; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:09:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:09:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25965; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:09:35 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id TAA13271; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:06:16 -0400 Message-Id: <199504202306.TAA13271@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: rol@uhc.com (Roleigh Martin) Cc: moore@CS.UTK.EDU (Keith Moore), krisdw@basenet.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: [ADMIN] Re: PC Factory Outlet In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:43:29 CDT." <9504202243.AA11525@lochness.uhc.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:06:10 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > > Especially since it's not ThinkPad-oriented, I don't think it's > > appropriate to post it here. > Sorry to disagree. There was a huge portion of that list that was > dedicated to refurbished Thinkpads. I for one really appreciated > seeing the list and I could not think of a more appropriate list > for it to be disseminated on. My original comments were based on Kris's "do you think this is appropriate" post, since I hadn't seen the actual post containing the price list yet. However, on reading the price list, I am firmly opposed to having it posted here periodically. The same would be true for any other price lists. Many list members pay for their incoming email, and several have complained about the volume of messages on this list. We therefore need to keep our postings brief and on-topic. Just because there is not another good place to post such information, does not mean that it is reasonable to post it here. Again, I'd certainly encourage posting *pointers* to such information to the list and/or in the FAQ file. Keith Moore p.s. It is not my intention to slam Kris for posting the list once. I just want to clearly state that it should not be posted periodically. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 19:47:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14590; Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:47:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27538; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:38:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:38:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27528; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:38:28 -0400 Received: from tonto-slip1.cis.brown.edu (tonto-slip1.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.21]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id TAA13730 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:40:49 -0400 Message-Id: <199504202340.TAA13730@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:37:38 -0400 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: FullPak on 750C Has anyone had any problem with FullPak on 750C? I mean screen/video problem. My screen corrupts all the time, which requires a reboot. It happens very often when the modem is dialing. <<<<<<<<<< WAI-SHAN LAM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail to: <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OR <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<72124.2644@CompuServe.Com>>>>>>>>> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 20:09:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17148; Thu, 20 Apr 95 20:09:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28093; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:48:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:48:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28082; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:48:03 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA18347; Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:48:48 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:48:48 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504202348.AA18347@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: moore@CS.UTK.EDU, rol@uhc.com Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Re: PC Factory Outlet Cc: krisdw@basenet.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU I am firmly opposed to having to read objections to having the list posted, and if I had to pay for incoming email, I would really be opposed. Let's have this posted reguarly. If you don't like it delete it, or set your mailer to dump it immediately. I actually find the factory list the most useful email I have received >from the tp750 list. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 20:11:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17812; Thu, 20 Apr 95 20:11:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28703; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:57:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:57:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28692; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:57:02 -0400 Received: from DialupEudora (ts1.noc.drexel.edu [129.25.12.13]) by dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (8.6.11/8.6.4) with SMTP id TAA29146 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:56:40 -0400 X-Sender: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:08:59 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Mark Bell) Subject: Xircom update (CEM10BT) It seems that Xircom has, thankfully, decided to do away with their proprietary MAPI interface in their Ethernet + Modem card and rewrote the firmware where the card now basically emulates a UART like a Megahertz modem card. This also means they did away with their horrendous redirector that was needed to get the card up and running. The good news is that the modem seems to work flawlessly in DOS and Windows. The bad news is it is still impossible to get the Ethernet side of the equation working. I upgraded the card on a friend's Aero to 2.15 (The newest driver level), and suddenly , my 755C had no problems recognizing the card at last. Xircom has an update bulletin pertaining to this card you can also have faxed back to you. Of course in the memo, Xircom says they are still having problems with Card and Services (You have to disable them to get the card to work as of this moment), and problems still persist with a few models of the 755 and 360 Thinkpads. ........Hapless victim of Information Overload Syndrome (IOS)....... * Mark Bell * 800 College Drive #104 * Vineland, NJ 08360 * 1-609-327-4029 * From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 20 21:22:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28152; Thu, 20 Apr 95 21:22:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02389; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 21:03:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 21:03:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from Pion by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02371; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 21:03:36 -0400 Received: from by (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA09330; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:11:31 +0900 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:11:31 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199504210111.KAA09330@Pion> To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU, jokim@mit.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? >i never tried on my 750C, only on my 755C, so I can't say anything from >experience about the 750C, but on the 755C, Doom works fine with full >sound (the only reason I keep repeating this is to make clear that this >is based not on guesswork, but my ears :-) I have a 755C, and the only way I could get sound for doom was to attach my Thinkpad to a DockII equipped with a Soundblaster card... that combo works fine, but I was never able to get the Soundblaster emulation to work. Perhaps you can post (or email) copies of your config.sys and autoexec.bat.... I'd be really interested to know how you did this. -Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 22:11:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05804; Thu, 20 Apr 95 22:11:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06862; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:03:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:03:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from noc4.dccs.upenn.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06850; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:03:07 -0400 Received: from DOLPHIN.UPENN.EDU by noc4.dccs.upenn.edu id AA02541; Thu, 20 Apr 95 22:02:57 -0400 Received: by dolphin.upenn.edu id WAA22830; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:02:56 -0400 From: mtran@dolphin.upenn.edu (Mark Tran) Posted-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:02:56 -0400 Message-Id: <199504210202.WAA22830@dolphin.upenn.edu> Subject: memory upgrade To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:02:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn2.9] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello all, i'm just wondering how much it would cost to upgrade the memory on my machine to either 12 or 20 MB. i don't mind paying a little more if the memory is from a dependable source... thanks for the help. mark From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 22:17:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06007; Thu, 20 Apr 95 22:17:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07452; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:10:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:10:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07434; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:10:27 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id WAA03622; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:14:14 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:14:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Roleigh Martin Cc: Keith Moore , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PC Factory Outlet In-Reply-To: <9504202243.AA11525@lochness.uhc.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Keith said: > > Otherwise, maybe people who are interested could let you know by > > private email, and you could send it to just those who are interested. We have this situation crop up occasionally. Perhaps there's another solution for it. Most mailing list software supports having file requests, and I believe this software is no exception. Is there a way to submit a mail message and have the tp750-request address spit it back? We could then post summaries and how to get it. I'd offer to put it on my web page for people, but I'm pushing quota already and additional space on this system is prohibitively expensive... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 01:27:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00430; Fri, 21 Apr 95 01:27:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19746; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 01:18:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 01:18:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19737; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 01:18:34 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id BAA13800; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 01:15:13 -0400 Message-Id: <199504210515.BAA13800@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: Don Whiteside Cc: Roleigh Martin , Keith Moore , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PC Factory Outlet In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:14:13 EDT." Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 01:15:07 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > > > Otherwise, maybe people who are interested could let you know by > > > private email, and you could send it to just those who are interested. > > We have this situation crop up occasionally. Perhaps there's another > solution for it. Most mailing list software supports having file > requests, and I believe this software is no exception. Actually, this mailing list is run by me. I read the messages sent to tp750-request, interpret them, and type in commands to subscribe, unsubscribe, or send help to people. If the message doesn't fit into one of those categories, I send back an ordinary reply. I'd offer to put the file up on the ftp server here, except that (a) it's probably inappropriate to use a University of Tennessee file server to distribute an advertisement for IBM, and (b) there's no easy way for someone else to keep it updated. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 03:21:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17672; Fri, 21 Apr 95 03:21:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24281; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 02:52:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 02:52:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24271; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 02:52:28 -0400 Received: from ppp3.basenet.net (ppp3.basenet.net [204.248.92.3]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA07195 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 00:51:44 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 00:51:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199504210551.AAA07195@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: A home for the PC Factory Outlet List Wow, I didn't mean to tie up so much bandwidth! Here's what I've decided to do. You all already have the list I sent out. I'll have my homepage up within the next month (if I get this darn Notes class developed). I'll put access to the list there and keep it updated. When I get the page up, I'll let you all know how to get there. In the meantime, if another list becomes available, I'll create a distribution list of everyone that wants me to send it to them. When I get it, I'll forward it to the list. If you want to be on the list, send me an email (not the listserve) [krisdw@basenet.net]. I think this'll satisfy everyone and keep the costs down for those of you that have to pay for mail. |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 07:03:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17774; Fri, 21 Apr 95 07:03:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16163; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 06:47:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 06:47:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16153; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 06:47:53 -0400 Received: from haralds.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/Task/HJ-5) id AA284001247; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:47:28 +0200 Received: by haralds.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/HJ/Task-5) id AA041781247; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:47:27 +0200 From: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) Message-Id: <199504211047.AA041781247@haralds.cs.uit.no> Subject: Bad trackpoint III on 755cd To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:47:27 +0200 (METDST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi! My department has now got 9 755cd's and already two tracpoint III are beginning to fail. The left button does not work properly and are causing the user to do multiple clics to get respons. Is this a design weakness of the TPIII that others have noticed too or is it just us that have been unlucky? -- //// Harald Skotnes // Email: harald@staff.cs.uit.no / /// Dept. of Computer Science // Phone: +47 77 64 41 16 // // University of Tromsoe // Fax: +47 77 64 40 54 /// / N-9037 TROMSOE NORWAY // Like it or not, it's One World //// From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 07:31:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21305; Fri, 21 Apr 95 07:31:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17242; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:19:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:19:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from duvi.eskom.co.za by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17223; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:19:14 -0400 Received: from netman.eskom.co.za by duvi.eskom.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s2GjW-0001bSC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 13:18 RSA Received: from MP2NFS02/SpoolDir by netman.eskom.co.za (Mercury 1.21); 21 Apr 95 13:18:45 GMT+2 Received: from SpoolDir by MP2NFS02 (Mercury 1.21); 21 Apr 95 13:18:32 GMT+2 From: "Richard Ellerbrock" Organization: ESKOM Information Technology To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:18:23 GMT+2 Subject: OS/2 WARP and Windows video on 755c Reply-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za X-Confirm-Reading-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <20D378B0E94@netman.eskom.co.za> I somehow managed to mess my video up under WINOS/2 on my thinkpad 755c. I then did a selective install to attempt to correct the problem, but now it is worse than ever! When I run Windows, the display is zoomed up about four times its normal size and I can thus only see the top left quarter corner of Windows screen! I think there is a problem with either the win.ini file or system.ini file. I would appreciate it if somebody with the same configuration could forward me copies of thier files. -- richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Richard Ellerbrock (ECNE) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 07:59:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24667; Fri, 21 Apr 95 07:59:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18133; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:37:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:37:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18122; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:37:37 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA03902; Fri, 21 Apr 95 07:38:25 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 07:38:25 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504211138.AA03902@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: doom and sound I had said that the sound on DOOM worked fine on my 755C, but that was wrong, the sound effects are indeed just PC speaker effefcts. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 08:30:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00026; Fri, 21 Apr 95 08:30:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18865; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:53:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:53:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from duvi.eskom.co.za by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18854; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:52:49 -0400 Received: from netman.eskom.co.za by duvi.eskom.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s2HG0-0001b9C; Fri, 21 Apr 95 13:52 RSA Received: from MP2NFS02/SpoolDir by netman.eskom.co.za (Mercury 1.21); 21 Apr 95 13:52:18 GMT+2 Received: from SpoolDir by MP2NFS02 (Mercury 1.21); 21 Apr 95 13:52:15 GMT+2 From: "Richard Ellerbrock" Organization: ESKOM Information Technology To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar), elf@dgp.toronto.edu Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:52:15 GMT+2 Subject: Re: OS/2 Reply-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Cc: elf@dgp.toronto.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Confirm-Reading-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <20DC7B44D95@netman.eskom.co.za> > "The 755C supports 64k colors on an external monitor at 640x480 > resolution. I haven't tried this, but I believe the Warp drivers > support it. On the other hand, I can't imagine wanting to run 640x480 > on an external monitor -- the only reason I have such a monitor is to > run higher resolutions." > > for photo stuff, more colors is more important than higher resolution, > certainly the jump from 8-bits to 16-bits is critical. 8-bits is VERY > limiting. So tell me how do I get more than 256k colours on an external monitor under Warp on a 755c? -- richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Richard Ellerbrock (ECNE) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 08:38:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00278; Fri, 21 Apr 95 08:38:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19333; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:04:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:04:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from fosters.roc.servtech.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19318; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:04:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 08:08:21 EST Message-Id: <9504210808.AA19476@fosters.roc.servtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Randall King" Reply-To: To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PC Factory Outlet X-Mailer: In reply to: > >I am firmly opposed to having to read objections to having the list posted, >and if I had to pay for incoming email, I would really be opposed. Let's >have this posted reguarly. If you don't like it delete it, or set your >mailer to dump it immediately. > >I actually find the factory list the most useful email I have received >from the tp750 list. I agree. If we can stand to have the IBM release info sent out to the group, I think this information can be tolerated. After all, it does have info about TP's in it. It beats seeing 15-20 messages arguing about Doom and sound... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 09:55:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12218; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:55:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27070; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:28:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:28:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from enterprise.america.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27060; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:28:45 -0400 Received: from engineering.ppp.america.com by enterprise.america.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA05019; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:27:38 +0500 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:27:36 +0500 Message-Id: <9504211327.AA05019@enterprise.america.com> X-Sender: richh@199.170.102.100 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: rrh@america.com (Richard Holtz) Subject: IBM factory Store List Like others on this divided subject we strongly side with those who would like to see the list post to this maillist. It is more useful than much of the trivia that we read. A Public Thank You to Kris is in order..... Rich ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tel:904 676 2725 Fax:904 676 0237 Car:904 679 4858 Portable:904 679 4851 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 10:32:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17346; Fri, 21 Apr 95 10:32:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00644; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:01:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:01:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00634; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:01:26 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0s2JHO-0004tgC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:01 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0s2JHN-0002ncC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:01 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s2JHK-0002wvC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:01 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: OS/2 To: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:01:50 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9504201945.AA0047@omerie.ai.mit.edu> from "cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu" at Apr 20, 95 03:45:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The 755C supports 64k colors on an external monitor at 640x480 > resolution. I haven't tried this, but I believe the Warp drivers > support it. On the other hand, I can't imagine wanting to run 640x480 > on an external monitor -- the only reason I have such a monitor is to > run higher resolutions. FYI, There is a KNOWN bug with the OS/2 WARP video driver for the Western Digital part used in the 360 and 75X line of machines. Basically you cannot select the refresh rate for a given resolution. In addition you cannot set the controller to all possible modes (including depth of the color map). IBM claimed this week that they are about to release the new driver (read after WARP connect ships). -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 10:36:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17848; Fri, 21 Apr 95 10:36:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01704; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:08:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:08:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01694; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:08:03 -0400 From: Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0s2JNb-0004tqC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:08 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0s2JNZ-0002ncC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:08 CDT Received: from bart by bart.dsd.northrop.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s2JNY-0002wvC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:08 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: PC Factory Outlet To: moore@CS.UTK.EDU (Keith Moore) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:07:53 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199504202125.RAA13173@wilma.cs.utk.edu> from "Keith Moore" at Apr 20, 95 05:25:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: strat@CS.UTK.EDU > Especially since it's not ThinkPad-oriented, I don't think it's > appropriate to post it here. I have to disagree. If I was looking for a Thinkpad and couldn't afford list price, I would consider a rebuilt from the factory outlet. (In fact I have a rebuilt 750C from IBM.) If it wasn't for this list, I would have never known that the outlet even existed. This must mean that the posting WAS ThinkPad-oriented.... P.S. I am sick of "I'm paying for this so I don't want to listen to it" messages. Get a real service where you are not paying per message rates. (Sorry but it's my opinion.) -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 11:38:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26156; Fri, 21 Apr 95 11:38:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08252; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:24:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:24:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08235; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:24:28 -0400 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id aa19073; 21 Apr 95 15:33 GMT-60:00 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa03207; 21 Apr 95 15:33 GMT-60:00 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: harald@staff.cs.uit.no, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Bad trackpoint III on 755cd Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:13:24 BST Message-Id: <9504211413.aa13249@hipass.filct.com> My department has now got 9 755cd's and already two tracpoint III are beginning to fail. The left button does not work properly and are causing the user to do multiple clics to get respons. Is this a design weakness of the TPIII that others have noticed too or is it just us that have been unlucky? Well, I thought it was my imagination, but now ... Sometimes, the left button is fine, other times it does seem to need an extra click or three. BTW, I have a 755CE Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 11:49:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27875; Fri, 21 Apr 95 11:49:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09326; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:36:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:36:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09316; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:36:20 -0400 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HPLL4COEJ4000O17@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:36:02 -0400 (EDT) From: billy@mix.com Subject: [ADMIN] Re: PC Factory Outlet Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <798478562.25783.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: Why not just edit the Outlet's list down to only the Thinkpad listings? As I recall in the not too distant past that's what someone here did - in fact, I'd have never guessed the 'real' list was as big as it is(!)... Billy Y.. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 12:02:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00212; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:02:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11082; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:51:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:51:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom18.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11072; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:51:53 -0400 Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA23335; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:33:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199504211533.IAA23335@netcom18.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 07:42:54 EDT From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Reply-To: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.05 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: IBM factory Store List Count me in on the side of post the List. I think it is a valuable piece of information. I do not think there is value in removing the non thinkpad related text just to make it thinkpad only. Come too think of it would that not be seen as harware segregationist policies :-) As for those who say Ipay for the messages I get. Get real !! the cost per message is minimal and the cost of the connection for the time to download is virtually nothing. Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.com On Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:27:36 +0500 you wrote: >Like others on this divided subject we strongly side with those who would >like to see the list post to this maillist. It is more useful than much of >the trivia that we read. > >A Public Thank You to Kris is in order..... > >Rich > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Tel:904 676 2725 Fax:904 676 0237 Car:904 679 4858 Portable:904 679 4851 >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------------------------- Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.com 1988 gun deaths: Canada 5, Great Britain 8, USA over 8500 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 12:22:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03409; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:22:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00797; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:02:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:02:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00784; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:02:36 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 6241; Fri, 21 Apr 95 10:02:35 EDT Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 2120; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:02:35 EDT Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Fri, 21 Apr 95 10:02:35 EDT Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA25905; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:02:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:02:34 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9504211402.AA25905@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Robert Dewar's message of Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:48:48 -0400 <9504202348.AA18347@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Subject: [ADMIN] Re: PC Factory Outlet >I am firmly opposed to having to read objections to having the list posted, >and if I had to pay for incoming email, I would really be opposed. Let's >have this posted reguarly. If you don't like it delete it, or set your >mailer to dump it immediately. oh come on, the objections aren't any worse than you gloating (and ungloating) over the fact that you got Doom sound to run on your 755. --andy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 12:32:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03946; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:32:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01816; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:09:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:09:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01800; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:08:59 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0s2JOg-0004tgC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:09 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0s2JOf-0002ncC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:09 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s2JOe-0002wvC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:09 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: OS/2 To: rjking@fosters.roc.servtech.com Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:09:23 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9504201701.AA24460@fosters.roc.servtech.com> from "Randall King" at Apr 20, 95 05:01:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > In reply to: > This is off of the subject just a little, but are the TP 360's only 16 > color, or can they go to 256? Read my posting on driver limitations, but my 360 (office unit) DOES support 256 colors in all resolutions. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 12:47:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06060; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:47:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14594; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:32:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:32:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14582; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:32:54 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA06951; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:33:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:33:36 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504211633.AA06951@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: stevens@watson.ibm.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Re: PC Factory Outlet actually I misunderstood the Doom question, because the original question said "music", and I do indeed have music playing! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 12:54:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07552; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:54:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14904; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:38:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:38:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14881; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:38:17 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24439; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:38:10 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id MAA06882; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:36:46 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9504201236.ZM6880@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:36:44 -0700 In-Reply-To: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) "Re: Parallel port sound card?" (Apr 20, 8:24am) References: <9504201323.AA19663@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? Cc: jokim@mit.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Apr 20, 8:24am, John H. Kim wrote: > Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? > On Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:39:57 -0400 you wrote: > > >stop telling me I don't get sound with Doom on a 755C. I am running the > >original shareware episode on my 755C in a DOS full window with full > >sound. > > 1) I've never gotten Doom's sound (digital or music) working under DOS. The audio support works fine on the ThinkPad 750/755C's if you have the IBM SoundBlaster emulation TSR's running *AND* you are running a program in real- mode. For instance, Castle Wolfenstein sounds great. > 3) Doom's digital audio routines are broken -- it doesn't work on > virtually all OS/2 machines, and in some DOS machines. Has anyone > looked into a possible relationship between this and the sound > problems Doom has on the TP? Or are they unrelated? The sound chip that IBM chose for the 750 and 755C's is register incompatible with the SoundBlaster OPL-1 chip. They therefore supplied a real-mode TSR which intercepts SB interrupt requests and re-routes the call to the IBM SB emulation routines. Games like DOOM and Links386, and operating systems like OS/2 run in protected mode -- they cannot access the real-mode TSR's. This does not mean that Doom's audio routines are broken -- they are just incompatible. If IBM ever re-wrote their SB emulators to run in protected mode, games like Doom would run fine. Robert -- -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 12:55:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07557; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:55:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14894; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:38:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:38:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from booz.bah.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14879; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:38:17 -0400 Received: from smtpjii.bah.com (smtpjii.bah.com [156.80.9.162]) by booz.bah.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id MAA15025 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:37:03 -0400 Received: by smtpjii.bah.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F9808C9@smtpjii.bah.com>; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:34:33 PDT From: Phillips Ted To: tp750 Subject: Trackpoint III compatibility Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:37:00 PDT Message-Id: <2F9808C9@smtpjii.bah.com> Encoding: 7 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Are the cat's tongue caps used with the TPIII interchangeable with the TPII smooth caps? I am sick and tired of losing traction after eating potato chips with lunch and would like to pick up some cat's tongue caps for my 360C. P:\Ted phillipst@bah.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 13:42:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14418; Fri, 21 Apr 95 13:42:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17897; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:22:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:22:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17877; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:21:57 -0400 Received: from [128.120.18.132] by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.6.12/UCD3.4) id KAA26616; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:21:28 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:21:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199504211721.KAA26616@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: sztarkin@peseta.ucdavis.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: bktarkington@ucdavis.edu (Brian K. Tarkington) Subject: Re: PC Factory Outlet >> Especially since it's not ThinkPad-oriented, I don't think it's >> appropriate to post it here. > >I have to disagree. If I was looking for a Thinkpad and couldn't afford >list price, I would consider a rebuilt from the factory outlet. >(In fact I have a rebuilt 750C from IBM.) > >If it wasn't for this list, I would have never known that the outlet >even existed. This must mean that the posting WAS ThinkPad-oriented.... > >P.S. > >I am sick of "I'm paying for this so I don't want to listen to it" messages. >Get a real service where you are not paying per message rates. >(Sorry but it's my opinion.) >-- >Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com > | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) Those are my sentiments exactly. I am against having the list edited. If Kris is nice enough to go to the effort of posting it, he shouldn't have to screw around with editing it. What's the big deal with this? _________________________________ Brian K. Tarkington University of California at Davis bktarkington@ucdavis.edu 74033.2574@compuserve.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 13:47:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15157; Fri, 21 Apr 95 13:47:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18580; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:31:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:31:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18561; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:31:33 -0400 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA03296; Fri, 21 Apr 95 11:30:57 MDT Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 11:30:57 MDT From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9504211730.AA03296@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Trackpoint III compatibility > Are the cat's tongue caps used with the TPIII interchangeable with the TPII > smooth caps? I am sick and tired of losing traction after eating potato > chips with lunch and would like to pick up some cat's tongue caps for my > 360C. Yeah, they're interchangeable - my 360 is sporting one now. Just a thought: If you give up those potato chips and apply the savings toward the purchase of some new caps, you should be able to finance your purchase in about 3 years ;) -- Karl E. Yeanoplos Denver, CO. kyeanopl@den.mmc.com / key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 15:43:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03107; Fri, 21 Apr 95 15:43:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24999; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:18:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:18:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24988; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:18:03 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA20022; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 14:17:58 -0500 Message-Id: <9504211917.AA20022@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:18:53 EDT From: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? >Games like DOOM and Links386, and operating systems like OS/2 run in protected >mode -- they cannot access the real-mode TSR's. This does not mean that Doom's >audio routines are broken -- they are just incompatible. No no. I meant Doom's digital sounds are broken under OS/2 and some DOS machines even with a real Soundblaster and a desktop. I don't think there's a connection with the incompatibility with the 750, but I haven't seen that disproven either. _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 15:43:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03120; Fri, 21 Apr 95 15:43:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24811; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:15:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:15:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24797; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:14:59 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA19934; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 14:14:54 -0500 Message-Id: <9504211914.AA19934@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:15:52 EDT From: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: PC Factory Outlet > I am sick of "I'm paying for this so I don't want to listen to it" messages. > Get a real service where you are not paying per message rates. I don't think anybody who pays has posted a message yet. If there's no objection within a week or so, I don't see why the file can't be posted here. It really should be the responsibilty of the people paying per message to tell us that they have a problem with it. _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 16:30:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09230; Fri, 21 Apr 95 16:30:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28874; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:53:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:53:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28863; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:53:21 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA10401; Fri, 21 Apr 95 15:54:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 15:54:09 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504211954.AA10401@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755CD max memory does someone know what the max mem is on the 755CD. I read everywhere 40 megs, bbut I remember some discussion a while ago of putting two 32 meg DIMS on the machine. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 17:03:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13797; Fri, 21 Apr 95 17:03:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02073; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:35:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:35:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02057; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:35:10 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA10780; Fri, 21 Apr 95 16:35:57 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 16:35:57 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504212035.AA10780@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Pentium upgrade are we sure that the Pentium upgrade will be something that can actually be done to existing 755CD machines? or is it just that a new Pentium model of the 755 will appear? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 17:50:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20219; Fri, 21 Apr 95 17:50:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07245; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:36:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:36:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07233; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:36:21 -0400 Received: from ppp32.basenet.net (ppp32.basenet.net [204.248.92.32]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA22957; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:35:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:35:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199504212035.PAA22957@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: OS/2 WARP and Windows video on 755c >I somehow managed to mess my video up under WINOS/2 on my thinkpad >755c. I then did a selective install to attempt to correct the >problem, but now it is worse than ever! When I run Windows, the >display is zoomed up about four times its normal size and I can thus >only see the top left quarter corner of Windows screen! I think there >is a problem with either the win.ini file or system.ini file. I would >appreciate it if somebody with the same configuration could forward >me copies of thier files. > >-- >richarde@netman.eskom.co.za >Richard Ellerbrock (ECNE) > > Sounds like your resolution has altered. If it's just the windows that are large, and the icons and text are the coreect size, you just need to resize all of the windows. It's because they may have been created under a higher resolution that what you are at now. I have that happen,not on my TP but under desktops when I changed drivers. |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 19:27:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05587; Fri, 21 Apr 95 19:27:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13492; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 19:17:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 19:16:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13476; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 19:16:54 -0400 Received: from efd.lth.se (f91el@mars-2.efd.lth.se [130.235.39.12]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id BAA14375 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 01:15:04 +0200 Message-Id: <199504212315.BAA14375@kobra.efd.lth.se> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: ftp.pcco.ibm.com changed? Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 01:15:02 +0200 From: Erik Lindahl Hi, I tried to get a driver from the PCCO today, but found that they had changed? Does anybody of you know where we can find them onow? Regards, Erik From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 22 07:26:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13484; Sat, 22 Apr 95 07:26:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29329; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 07:15:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 07:15:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29317; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 07:15:42 -0400 Received: from ppp5.basenet.net (ppp5.basenet.net [204.248.92.5]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA28743; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 05:15:02 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 05:15:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199504221015.FAA28743@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Erik Lindahl , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: ftp.pcco.ibm.com changed? >Hi, >I tried to get a driver from the PCCO today, but found that >they had changed? >Does anybody of you know where we can find them onow? > >Regards, > >Erik > Try the IBM PCCO BBS at BBS Phone Number: 919-517-0001 |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 22 07:33:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14108; Sat, 22 Apr 95 07:33:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29788; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 07:24:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 07:24:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29778; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 07:24:35 -0400 Received: from ppp5.basenet.net (ppp5.basenet.net [204.248.92.5]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA28827 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 05:24:16 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 05:24:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199504221024.FAA28827@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: IBM's Warp Pharmacy Hey folks, I was just surfing a bit and found a a really great WWW site on Warp. It is called the Warp Pharmacy. I found it by going to HTTP://www.ibm.com/News/. To jump directly there use this: http://www.zeta.org.au/%7Ejon/WarpPharmacy.html |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 22 10:20:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05166; Sat, 22 Apr 95 10:20:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09679; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 10:07:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 10:07:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from is1.hk.super.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09669; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 10:07:24 -0400 Received: by is1.hk.super.net id AA28881 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sat, 22 Apr 1995 21:44:55 +0800 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 21:44:55 +0800 From: "Mr. Tony K Ng" Message-Id: <199504221344.AA28881@is1.hk.super.net> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Hi all, Just wondering if there is any new ibm ftp sites for us to get the most updated system diskettes for TP750C? By the way, what are the filenames of the most updated diskettes for TP750C then? Thanks a lot for your help. -Tony From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 22 11:08:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14028; Sat, 22 Apr 95 11:08:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13891; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:00:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:00:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu10.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13875; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:00:18 -0400 Received: from uu0924.UUCP by uu10.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA20276 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 95 10:54:51 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 95 10:49:25 EST From: bedin@ace.com (Bedin) Subject: Refurbished Message-Id: <9504221049.0.UUL1.3#25274@ace.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Hello folks. I have been reading along here and am enjoying all the helpful info. It's a long story but within the next couple of weeks I will be recieving a Thinkpad 755c. I have some suspicions as to whether the unit will be refurbished or not. Aside from obvious cosemetic appearances, is there a sure way by either a stamp or serial number to tell if the unit is refurbished or not? Any eductaed guesses appreciated. Also, would anyone know if there exists a FAQ somewhere on the net related to THINKPADS? I am trying to learn as much as I can. Again thanks to all for the posts and to whomever administers this list. email: bedin@ace.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 22 13:12:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29057; Sat, 22 Apr 95 13:12:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20872; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 13:00:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 13:00:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20856; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 13:00:22 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id NAA03403; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 13:04:13 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 13:04:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Thinkpad List Subject: Car adaptors Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was in Computer City today (and bought a Panasonic PCMCIA 2x CDROM! I'll report my feelings on it once I get a chance to play) and looked at a few DC->AC converters. They all were 40W units. Looking at my universal AC adaptor that came with my TP750, it says it draws 1A at 100V. Unless my math is off, that's 60W more than these inverters provide. Anyone try it yet, or are there adaptors that provide more wattage? Or perhaps the 110v only adaptor has a lighter draw for some reason... I've got the car adaptor for my 'pad, but I'd hate to see someone blow something because of this... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 05:52:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24459; Sun, 23 Apr 95 05:52:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11002; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 05:42:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 05:42:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from duvi.eskom.co.za by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA10970; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 05:41:56 -0400 Received: from netman.eskom.co.za by duvi.eskom.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s2y9a-0001ctC; Sun, 23 Apr 95 11:40 RSA Received: from MP2NFS02/SpoolDir by netman.eskom.co.za (Mercury 1.21); 23 Apr 95 11:40:33 GMT+2 Received: from SpoolDir by MP2NFS02 (Mercury 1.21); 23 Apr 95 11:40:18 GMT+2 From: "Richard Ellerbrock" Organization: ESKOM Information Technology To: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 11:40:10 GMT+2 Subject: Re: OS/2 WARP and Windows video on 755c Reply-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za X-Confirm-Reading-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <23BACA23A0A@netman.eskom.co.za> > >I somehow managed to mess my video up under WINOS/2 on my thinkpad > >755c. I then did a selective install to attempt to correct the > >problem, but now it is worse than ever! When I run Windows, the > >display is zoomed up about four times its normal size and I can thus > >only see the top left quarter corner of Windows screen! I think there > >is a problem with either the win.ini file or system.ini file. I would > >appreciate it if somebody with the same configuration could forward > >me copies of thier files. > > > Sounds like your resolution has altered. If it's just the windows that are > large, and the icons and text are the coreect size, you just need to resize > all of the windows. It's because they may have been created under a higher > resolution that what you are at now. I have that happen,not on my TP but > under desktops when I changed drivers. Nope, the resolution stayed the same. All that changed is that I went >from VGA to SVGA (ie 256 colours in 640x480 res). It looks like the whole Windows screen has been zoomed up about four times it's normal size. -- richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Richard Ellerbrock (ECNE) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 08:56:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14413; Sun, 23 Apr 95 08:56:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20065; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 08:48:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 08:48:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from enterprise.america.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20055; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 08:48:49 -0400 Received: from tactical.ppp.america.com by enterprise.america.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA18409; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 08:47:46 +0500 Message-Id: <9504231247.AA18409@enterprise.america.com> X-Sender: richh@199.170.102.100 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 08:41:48 -0400 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: rrh@america.com (Richard Holtz) Subject: Windows 95 Is there a FAQ on the installtion of Win 95 Preview on the TP 755 ? If so where might one find it ?? Thanks to all. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard Holtz RRH Associates Home Control [Automation] and Building Control Systems Consultants Tel: 904 676 2725 Cell FlipPhone: 904 679 4851 Fax: 904 676 0237 internet: rrh@america.com Compuserve: Used when in field 76507,2222 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 09:42:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18163; Sun, 23 Apr 95 09:42:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23778; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 09:36:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 09:36:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23762; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 09:36:40 -0400 Received: from p24.slip.net (sfsp54.slip.net [204.160.88.200]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA07696; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 06:36:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199504231336.GAA07696@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 06:37:06 -0700 To: rrh@america.com (Richard Holtz), TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: Windows 95 At 08:41 AM 4/23/95 -0400, Richard Holtz wrote: >Is there a FAQ on the installtion of Win 95 Preview on the TP 755 ? If so >where might one find it ?? There's not, but you don't really need one, it installs cleanly. ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 10:36:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22945; Sun, 23 Apr 95 10:36:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27239; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 10:29:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 10:29:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sh1.ro.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27227; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 10:29:02 -0400 Received: from ts1p2.ro.com (ts1p2.ro.com [204.181.74.22]) by sh1.ro.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA06041 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 09:35:09 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 09:35:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199504231435.JAA06041@sh1.ro.com> X-Sender: dramsey@ro.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) Subject: Windows 95 TP hibernation Has anybody gotten their TP75x or other TP running Windows 95 to hibernate? My 750C just goes into suspend mode. I double checked for the presence of a hibernation file. Everything else is working properly thanks to some good work from some of our members that they wrote up a short while back. Thanks, Don. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 12:18:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04870; Sun, 23 Apr 95 12:18:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03491; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 12:11:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 12:11:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sh1.ro.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03478; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 12:11:17 -0400 Received: from ts1p13.ro.com (ts1p13.ro.com [204.181.74.33]) by sh1.ro.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA06988 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 11:17:25 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 11:17:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199504231617.LAA06988@sh1.ro.com> X-Sender: dramsey@ro.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) Subject: Re: Windows 95 TP hibernation I was just checking the Compuserve Thinkpad forum. Evidently there is an incompatibility between Windows 95 and the Thinkpad's hibernation mode. IBM is supposed to be bringing out a new bios soon to fix this problem. Also I posted a note to one of the IBM sysop's there about the IBM ftp site (ftp.pcco.ibm.com) having its contents changed so that drivers, etc. are no longer available. I asked him to tell me if an alternative site is/will be available. If I hear anything I will post an update. Don. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 16:50:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05188; Sun, 23 Apr 95 16:50:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17078; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 16:39:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 16:39:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gsfc.nasa.gov by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17067; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 16:39:41 -0400 Received: from neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov by gsfc.nasa.gov (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA13541; Sun, 23 Apr 95 16:39:32 -0400 Received: from breezy by neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov via SMTP (950215.SGI.8.6.10/920502.SGI) id QAA19218; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 16:44:22 -0400 Message-Id: <199504232044.QAA19218@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: kirk@neptune X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 16:39:37 -0400 To: Thinkpad List From: kirk@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert Kirk) Subject: Re: Car adaptors Cc: Don Whiteside At 01:04 PM 4/22/95 -0400, Don Whiteside wrote: > I was in Computer City today (and bought a Panasonic PCMCIA 2x CDROM! >I'll report my feelings on it once I get a chance to play) and looked at >a few DC->AC converters. They all were 40W units. Looking at my universal >AC adaptor that came with my TP750, it says it draws 1A at 100V. Unless >my math is off, that's 60W more than these inverters provide. > > Anyone try it yet, or are there adaptors that provide more wattage? Or >perhaps the 110v only adaptor has a lighter draw for some reason... I've >got the car adaptor for my 'pad, but I'd hate to see someone blow >something because of this... > Radio Shack's puts out 140 watts @ 115 Volts. I've had no trouble with it... Bob Kirk From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 20:43:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04192; Sun, 23 Apr 95 20:43:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29374; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 20:33:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 20:33:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from enterprise.america.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29363; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 20:33:45 -0400 Received: from holodeck.ppp.america.com by enterprise.america.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA20405; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 20:32:37 +0500 Message-Id: <9504240032.AA20405@enterprise.america.com> X-Sender: richh@199.170.102.100 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 20:33:19 -0400 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: rrh@america.com (Richard Holtz) Subject: IBM FTP Site Looks like someone pulled the plu on all the files. Is there a new site ??? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard Holtz RRH Associates Home Control [Automation] and Building Control Systems Consultants Tel: 904 676 2725 Cell FlipPhone: 904 679 4851 Fax: 904 676 0237 internet: rrh@america.com Compuserve: Used when in field 76507,2222 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 21:38:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12010; Sun, 23 Apr 95 21:38:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02876; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 21:28:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 21:28:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02866; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 21:28:52 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id VAA11270; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 21:32:37 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 21:32:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Richard Holtz Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM FTP Site In-Reply-To: <9504240032.AA20405@enterprise.america.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 23 Apr 1995, Richard Holtz wrote: > Looks like someone pulled the plu on all the files. Is there a new site ??? Hmm, sure does. Wish I'd mirrored it at some point. Shoot. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "I timed it. It took 22 seconds for him to hate you." - Chicago Hope ======================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 22:11:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16751; Sun, 23 Apr 95 22:11:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05167; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 22:03:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 22:03:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05157; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 22:03:31 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id WAA13769; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 22:07:26 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 22:07:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Thinkpad List Subject: Panasonic PCMCIA CDROM Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Okay, I lied. I played with it today, rather than working on my project due in 2.5 hours. FROM THE README: C:\DOS>DEBUG -o 3E0 0 -i 3E1 -83 <- TEST RESULT -q A result value of 82, 83 and 84 indicates that the PC is using i82365 (or compatible LSI), and the ASPI365.SYS should operate. In case the ASPI365.SYS doesn't operate, follow the error messages on the screen. When 'FF' appears as the result value, you cannot use the ASPI365.SYS. In such a case, there is a possibility that the PC is using the DATABOOK PCMCIA controller. If so, you must setup both CardTalk and the ASPIDBK.SYS to use the CD-ROM drive. ------------ end quote ---------- The point enabler went in fine. I disabled the C&S and put it in, worked on the first try. Supposedly the driver under C&S support hot swapping, I didn't try it. The only caveat the readme mentions is you must leave the CD ROM unit on and return the card to the same slot. The second driver is the typical CD ROM-specific driver. It's just an ASPI driver for this drive. You can use it on top of another ASPI card and driver. Last is the MSCDEX progam, a standard program that assigns a drive letter to the CD ROM. In theory, this card will support other devices. I don't have any devices with a half pitch SCSI connector or an adaptor, so I can't test this. If I ever manage to, I'll let you all know. The buffer is 128k, data trans is 2.5M max. next: the drive Nice unit. 2x speed, uses (as mentioned) the half pitch 50 pin SCSI connector. Only one connector, so if you want to use it with somethign else, you must put it at the end of the chain. Has a termination switch which is NOT NECESSARY to enable when using with the PCMCIA card, saving on power. Will run on 6 AA batteries (claims for 2 hrs as CD ROM) and will also act as a standalone CD player. Has headphone jack and volume control. Can be set to SCSI id 0 thru 7. Less than a pound (.4kg) w/o batteries. 150KB/300KB transfer rate, 295ms 1/3 stroke, 380ms fullstroke access times. (are 320/400 on battery power) Will read CD-DA, CD-ROM (mode 1 and 2 Form 1), Photo CD multisession, CD-ROM XA (mode 2 form 2). Bottom Line: I'll probably keep it. At $320, the price was right. Average 2x CDROM these days seems to be $180, add the PCMCIA SCSI and this is a pretty good deal IMHO. I bought it from Computer City, so there's probably better prices out there. However, CS is running this 12 month same as cash deal on their credit card, so I figure with the investment value of having that money instead of paying in a lump sum, I come in about even. I didn't have a CD speed tester, so I can't verify the speed. Worked fine, though. Didn't have a Photo CD around, much less a multisession one, so I can't verify that either. The unit is about as sturdy as any portable CD player, meaning I wouldn't put it through too much abuse. And, like any card, it interferes with the X-Jack. The plug is almost the full width of the PCMCIA card, so nothing is getting around this thing. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "I timed it. It took 22 seconds for him to hate you." - Chicago Hope ======================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 23:53:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00241; Sun, 23 Apr 95 23:53:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11373; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 23:45:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 23:45:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11362; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 23:45:53 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id XAA21284; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 23:45:38 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 23:45:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Thinkpad List Subject: IBM Announcements Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, for those of you interested in more info, point your web browse at: http://www.ibm.com/Products/IBMLink/listserv.html. You can use a forms-compatible (Lynx, Mosaic) Web browser to sign up for the IBM tech announcement mailing list. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "I timed it. It took 22 seconds for him to hate you." - Chicago Hope ======================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 24 08:57:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16117; Mon, 24 Apr 95 08:57:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21491; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:39:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:39:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21481; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:39:55 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA05783; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 07:39:51 -0500 Message-Id: <9504241239.AA05783@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 07:40:51 EDT From: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) To: mlaye@vnet.ibm.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: ftp.pcco.ibm.com Hi Mike. I'm writing about the ftp site mirroring the IBM PC BBS. You first informed me of this site when it went online. Several people on the TP750 mailing list have noticed it seems to have disappeared, replaced by Advantis' www.pcco.ibm.net server. Is there an alternative site that mirrors the PC BBS? Many of us found it an invaluable service. If this service has been discontinued, we'd really like to see it restarted. _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 24 09:21:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19320; Mon, 24 Apr 95 09:21:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23953; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 09:09:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 09:09:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mindvox.phantom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23941; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 09:09:47 -0400 Received: (from alster@localhost) by mindvox.phantom.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id JAA03018; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 09:05:19 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 09:05:18 -0400 (EDT) From: taoster! Subject: Re: ftp.pcco.ibm.com To: "John H. Kim" Cc: mlaye@vnet.ibm.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9504241239.AA05783@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 24 Apr 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > Hi Mike. I'm writing about the ftp site mirroring the IBM PC BBS. > You first informed me of this site when it went online. Several > people on the TP750 mailing list have noticed it seems to have > disappeared, replaced by Advantis' www.pcco.ibm.net server. > > Is there an alternative site that mirrors the PC BBS? Many of us > found it an invaluable service. If this service has been discontinued, > we'd really like to see it restarted. As much as I hate to point it out ....www.pcco.ibm.net is the same machine as ftp.pcco.ibm.net ...and the files section on it does not work at the moment neither. I'm sure that they are probably just restructuring; although a message indicating that would be nice. :) -al http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 24 17:52:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04498; Mon, 24 Apr 95 17:52:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06627; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:34:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:34:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mthood.ohsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06616; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:34:19 -0400 Received: by mthood.ohsu.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI.AUTO) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id OAA24088; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 14:33:34 -0700 From: "Ronald Sakaguchi" Message-Id: <9504241433.ZM24086@mthood.ohsu.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 14:33:28 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How can I turn down the volume of the system beeps on my TP755? The Mwave stuff is controllable with the volume control above the keyboard, but the system beeps don't seem to be controllable. It's particularly embarrassing when the low battery warning siren comes on in a quiet room. I'd like to keep it on but would like to change the volume. Thanks for your help. Ron -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ronald L. Sakaguchi, DDS, MS, PhD Dept of Biomaterials & Biomechanics Associate Professor Oregon Health Sciences University voice: (503) 494-8692 611 SW Campus Drive, SD-503 fax: (503) 494-8260 Portland, OR 97201-3097 rls@mthood.ohsu.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 24 18:35:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12222; Mon, 24 Apr 95 18:35:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11072; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 18:19:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 18:19:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from stortek.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11062; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 18:19:38 -0400 Received: from deathstar.stortek.com ([129.80.18.204]) by stortek.com with SMTP id AA24249 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 24 Apr 1995 16:19:03 -0600 Received: from endor.stortek.com by deathstar.stortek.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-SESA-Main-0001) id AA26513; Mon, 24 Apr 95 16:19:01 MDT Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 16:19:01 MDT From: ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) Message-Id: <9504242219.AA26513@deathstar.stortek.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: System Beep Volume > How can I turn down the volume of the system beeps on my TP755? The Mwave stuff > is controllable with the volume control above the keyboard, but the system > beeps don't seem to be controllable. It's particularly embarrassing when the > low battery warning siren comes on in a quiet room. I'd like to keep it on but > would like to change the volume. Well, on my 755C it's controlled by the Sound icon in the ThinkPad Features group. I reset mine down to a 3 normally, or even off when I have it places I don't want to disturb others. At least that works for all the tones, beeps, clicks, etc. that I've run into so far, including the low battery warning (that just went off here at work...). Lee Stewart From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 24 21:42:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11884; Mon, 24 Apr 95 21:42:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23808; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 21:27:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 21:27:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23796; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 21:27:43 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id SAA29708; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 18:27:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199504250127.SAA29708@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 18:28:29 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: ls@sweng.stortek.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail v1.05 Subject: Re: System Beep Volume On Mon, 24 Apr 95 16:19:01 MDT you wrote: >> How can I turn down the volume of the system beeps on my TP755? The Mwave stuff >> SNIP!! >At least that works for all the tones, beeps, clicks, etc. that I've run >into so far, including the low battery warning (that just went off here >at work...). > >Lee Stewart > Doesn't work with MY 755Cs... sure wish it did ... I'm a law student and professors get real snarly when those system beeps go off. I hate 'em!! ----------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington 1L, USC Law Center AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail |"Even if he were mediocre, there are a lot of medicore judges & people | | & lawyers. Don't they deserve some representation on the court?" - | | Senator Roman Hruska (R-Neb), defending Judge Harold Carswell, the 1st | | Nixon nominee for the Sup.Court, against charges that he was mediocre. | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 25 12:35:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25108; Tue, 25 Apr 95 12:35:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00377; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 12:20:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 12:20:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mthood.ohsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00354; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 12:20:23 -0400 Received: by mthood.ohsu.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI.AUTO) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id JAA02207; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:19:15 -0700 From: "Ronald Sakaguchi" Message-Id: <9504250919.ZM2205@mthood.ohsu.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:19:10 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: system beep on TP755CD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Regarding my question about decreasing the volume of the system beep, I called IBM Tech Support and they confirmed that the volume cannot be changed on the TP755CD. It's all or none. I guess the volume can be controlled on some 755's but not on the CD. Thanks for the replies! Ron -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ronald L. Sakaguchi, DDS, MS, PhD Dept of Biomaterials & Biomechanics Associate Professor Oregon Health Sciences University voice: (503) 494-8692 611 SW Campus Drive, SD-503 fax: (503) 494-8260 Portland, OR 97201-3097 rls@mthood.ohsu.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 25 14:52:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14525; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:52:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09177; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:35:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:35:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rigel.lmt.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09163; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:35:44 -0400 Received: from leonardo.lmt.com by rigel.lmt.com with SMTP id AA00669 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 25 Apr 1995 13:41:15 -0500 Received: from LEONARDO/SMTPQUEUE by leonardo.lmt.com (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:41:17 GMT-6 Received: from SMTPQUEUE by LEONARDO (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:41:05 GMT-6 From: "Chris Schumann" Organization: LaserMaster Technologies R&D Divn. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 13:40:58 CST6CDT Subject: TP755CD volume Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <45ACDD0566@leonardo.lmt.com> while it may be true that you can't change the volume, I wouldn't count on what anyone in IBM's level 1 (phone answerer) tech support has to say about much of anything. I've gotten several wrong answers from them, only to later discuss issues and resolve problems with level 2 support (who call you when they get a chance). Chris From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 25 15:36:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20359; Tue, 25 Apr 95 15:36:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12405; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:13:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:13:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12394; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:13:08 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA12504 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:13:04 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA48474; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:12:59 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:12:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Bios updates Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII here's some of the recent stuff on the IBM BBS, seeing as how the ftp site has decided to go on vacation: Directory [37] - IBM Portables, Notebooks, Laptops [A] Votpe110.exe 738193 04-11-95 OS/2 Video Disk-755cd,ce,cse ONLY v1.10 [B] Votpe110.doc 1340 04-11-95 Documentation for votpe110.exe [C] Vwtpe110.exe 445794 04-11-95 Win Video Disk-755cd,ce,cse ONLY v1.10 [D] Vwtpe110.doc 926 04-11-95 Documentation for vwtpe110.exe [E] 5 Sy750apm.exe 355821 04-11-95 System Disk-TP750 ONLY.BIOS UpdateV.115+ [F] Sys7012r.exe 562737 04-11-95 System Disk-TP701 ButterFly V.2R [G] Sy510bio.exe 793218 04-11-95 System Disk-TP510BIOS Update [H] Modem142.dsk 438665 04-19-95 IBM PCMCIA Fax/Modem Program Disk v1.42 [I] Ir_pub.ps 1240387 04-21-95 OBI Guide for Wireless LAN (postscript) More - [Y]es or [Return], [N]o, [M]ark, [F]ive Line, [A]rcView, [Q]uit? f Enter Letter for the filename - [Return] to quit? e Five Line Description SY750APM.EXE is a BIOS update for suspend problems encountered on the IBM ThinkPad 750 (This does NOT include the 750CE) and is an upgrade for version 115 of the system diskette. Also, I don't know if anyone else saw this in this week's PC Magazine but Hewlett Packard's new HP5P printer has an infrared parallel port, so now finally something useful and worthwhile to use those infrared ports on the 755CE & CD. If the configuration is easy and it works reliably then it's a hell of a lot better than fumbling with parallel cables all the time. just my $.02 Josh Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 25 16:11:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25863; Tue, 25 Apr 95 16:11:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16652; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 16:00:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 16:00:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from stortek.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16631; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 16:00:28 -0400 Received: from deathstar.stortek.com ([129.80.18.204]) by stortek.com with SMTP id AA04606 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 25 Apr 1995 13:59:51 -0600 Received: from endor.stortek.com by deathstar.stortek.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-SESA-Main-0001) id AA08126; Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:59:50 MDT Date: Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:59:50 MDT From: ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) Message-Id: <9504251959.AA08126@deathstar.stortek.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755CD volume > while it may be true that you can't change the volume, > I wouldn't count on what anyone in IBM's level 1 > (phone answerer) tech support has to say about much > of anything. I've gotten several wrong answers from them, > only to later discuss issues and resolve problems with > level 2 support (who call you when they get a chance). All too true. Speaking only as an ex-IBMer, before I left they had vended all the level 1 support jobs (except management) out to temp firms.. It's quite possible any more that the person you get on the phone may never have seen the hardware or software that you talk to them about. And it's as true on PCs as it is on the top of the line mainframes... Lee Stewart From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 25 19:43:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28631; Tue, 25 Apr 95 19:43:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02003; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 19:33:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 19:33:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sh1.ro.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01992; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 19:33:01 -0400 Received: from ts1p4.ro.com (ts1p4.ro.com [204.181.74.24]) by sh1.ro.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA02133 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 18:39:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 18:39:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199504252339.SAA02133@sh1.ro.com> X-Sender: dramsey@ro.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) Subject: IBM pcco ftp site changed... Hey folks! I was at Comdex in Atlanta yesterday so I didn't get a chance to get back on Compuserve til tonight. I got this response from Mike Anderson when I told him about the IBM ftp site ftp.pcco.ibm.com no longer carrying drivers, etc.: >#: 76647 S1/General Info [THINKPAD] > 23-Apr-95 19:48:20 >Sb: #76590-IBM ftp site changed >Fm: Mike Anderson 72662,1116 >To: Don Ramsey 71055,402 > >Yep - I just checked it and it does seem to be set up rather strangely at the >moment... I will check on this and get it corrected. Sorry for the >inconvenience... > >Mike Anderson, ThinkPad Forum Sysop >IBM PC Co Mobile Products Tech Support >7:31 PM, Sunday, April 23, 1995 > We'll see what happens... at least I got somebody in IBM's camp to notice. Don. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 26 16:56:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00046; Wed, 26 Apr 95 16:56:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11389; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:33:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:33:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11379; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:33:05 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA14772 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:33:02 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA07292; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:32:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:32:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: OS2 pre-installed on Tp755 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII IBM ThinkPad 755CE, 755CSE, and 755CD -- Enhanced Preinstalled Software Announced on April 26, 1995 HARDWARE Announcement 195-122 The preinstalled software of the ThinkPad(R) 755CE, 755CSE, and 755CD systems now includes OS/2(R) Warp Version 3, with SelectaSystem(TM), and all the BonusPak applications. You can select which operating system to use based on personal preference or application requirements. OS/2 Warp Version 3 and the BonusPak applications are available at no additional charge. Three software programs are no longer preinstalled: Second Nature Screen Saver, Farallon Replica, and Official Airline Guide FlightDisk. Additionally, the IBM Demo program is no longer preinstalled on all 755CE, 755CSE, and 755CD systems with a 340MB fixed disk drive. Availability Date: April 26, 1995 (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation (TM) Trademark of International Business Machines Corporation DESCRIPTION "The summary above is the entire text of this announcement." From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 26 17:07:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02714; Wed, 26 Apr 95 17:07:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11244; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:32:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:31:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11225; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:31:55 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA14667 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:31:37 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA49462; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:31:31 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:31:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: New thinkpad pen model Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII IBM ThinkPad 360PE Exploits Pen-Based Technology Announced on April 26, 1995 HARDWARE Announcement 195-125 +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | IN BRIEF . . . | | | | Two new ThinkPad models enable you to take advantage of | | pen-based input and selected audio applications. | | | | Other features of interest include: | | | | o Intel** 486DX2-50/25 processor with 8KB cache, 70 ns memory | | (4MB standard on planar, customer-expandable to 20MB) | | | | o Removable 340MB (MB = million bytes) or 540MB hard disk drive | | (optional 250MB and 810MB) | | | | o Preinstalled software including PenDOS* 2.2, Microsoft** | | Windows+ for Pen Computing, and more | | | | o A 9.5-inch (maximum viewable area when measured diagonally) | | Pen DSTN side-lit color display that supports 256 crisp | | bright colors out of 4,096 | | | | o Full-sized keyboard with TrackPoint II(TM) (built-in pointing | | device), and built-in numeric keypad function | | | | o Advanced power management facilities to extend the life of | | the battery under normal usage | | | | Technical Support | | | | o ThinkPad Easy Serv warranty | | o International Warranty Service | | o HelpCenter(R) (800-772-2227) for full range of service and | | support | | o HelpWare(R) | | o ThinkPad Proven(TM) | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ The ThinkPad(R) 360PE portable notebook pen computer system with a color display offers advanced function at a low price. Just 6.8 pounds, and with the same styling and modular design that have made the ThinkPad notebook systems so popular, this new ThinkPad system supports the pen-based application environment and features a 16-bit internal audio card to enable certain audio applications. The distinct advantage of pen interface for a mobile worker is that the ThinkPad 360PE can take the place of a paper system in many work situations. Unlike a keyboard, the pen is not obtrusive in nature when used in front of a customer or in a group meeting -- take notes as if on paper. Also seen as benefits in a pen-based application environment, an on-board math co-processor and 8KB cache come standard with the system. Add to this the powerful processing, customer-installable memory and hard disk drives, PCMCIA expandability, auto configurability, and sophisticated power management functions, and you have an affordable computer to suit many needs. The ThinkPad 360PE STN Dual Scan Side-lit LCD color display supports pen-based applications via an electromagnetic "batteryless" untethered digitizer. The digitizer offers an additional human interface with the pen notebook system. In addition to the convenience of portable computing, the ThinkPad 360PE gives you the option of using an alternate keyboard, monitor, and mouse -- at home, at the office, or another location -- to replicate the feel of a desktop system. Features that allow you to do this include: o PCMCIA card slot that can accommodate two Type II or one Type III PC card, standard Release 2.01 o Battery- or AC-operated o External IBM peripherals supported: keyboard, mouse, printer, and numeric pad through serial or enhanced parallel ports, and SVGA monitor with simultaneous display capability o Optional docking station or port replicator Machine Planned Single Type/ Availability Unit Description Model Date Price ThinkPad 360PE (340MB HDD) 2620-B0F April 26, 1995 $3,699 ThinkPad 360PE (540MB HDD) 2620-B0G July 1995 4,049 (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation * Registered trademark of Communications Intelligence Corporation ** Company, product, or service name may be a trademark or service mark of others. + Trademark of Microsoft Corporation (TM) Trademark of International Business Machines Corporation DESCRIPTION The new ThinkPad 360PE offers power, performance, and pen input capability at a surprisingly affordable price. The ThinkPad 360PE improves the productivity of mobile professionals who work while traveling. Designed to fit into a briefcase and weighing only 6.8 pounds, the ThinkPad 360PE system is convenient to carry with you anywhere. The TrackPoint II offers pointing-device convenience -- no additional space required to operate or no need to carry an external mouse. The 9.5-inch (maximum viewable area when measured diagonally) VGA Dual Scan color display delivers the video graphics for the system. The ThinkPad 360PE offers flexibility with uncompromising performance. With the choices in customer-installable memory, you can use IC-DRAM memory cards or non-parity IC-DRAM memory options, available in 4MB, 8MB, or 16MB increments. Standard Features at a Glance o Intel 486DX2-50/25 processor with 8KB cache; 4MB of memory (customer-expandable to 20MB) o Removable 2.5-inch 340MB or 540MB hard disk drive (optional 250MB and 810MB) o 3.5-inch 1.44MB diskette drive (customer-removable) o 9.5-inch (maximum viewable area when measured diagonally) DSTN, VGA side-lit color display with digitizer for pen input o SVGA Video External Graphics Port (CGA/EGA/MCGA-compatible) o VESA Local Bus graphics with 1MB Video RAM o 16-bit internal audio card o Audio in/out jacks o Pen-based applications supported o Full-sized 85-key keyboard with TrackPoint II and built-in numeric keypad function o Removable internal nickel metal hydride (NiMh) battery pack o 35 Watt universal AC adapter o PCMCIA Slot (two Type II or one Type III PCMCIA card) o I/O ports: serial, enhanced parallel, and keyboard, mouse, and numeric pad (requires IBM Keyboard Mouse Connector accessory) o Preinstalled software including PenDOS** 2.2, Microsoft** Windows+ for Pen Computing, and more IBM ThinkPad 360PE Pen-Based Environment The ThinkPad 360PE provides two types of interface for the mobile worker -- keyboard and pen. The great advantage of pen interface for the mobile worker is that the ThinkPad 360PE can take the place of the paper system for most workers. Unlike a keyboard, the pen is not obtrusive when used in front of a customer or in a group meeting. It enables the mobile worker to take notes as if on paper. Additionally, the pen input creates an electronic image that may be stored, transmitted, or shared with others like a computer file. In many instances, it may be necessary to obtain another participant's confirmation, such as a client's signature after taking an order. The ThinkPad 360PE enables signature capture that aids in quicker paperless transaction processing. In addition, the pen-enabled ThinkPad 360PE has the ability to transform printed letters into computer-recognizable text. IBM ThinkPad 360PE Audio Environment The ThinkPad 360PE comes standard with a 16-bit internal audio card, providing support for many audio-capable applications. IBM ThinkPad 360PE Communication Environment The ThinkPad 360PE provides communication application integrity by not entering into a suspend or hibernation mode while the internal modem or PCMCIA modem option is in busy status. When certain communication PCMCIA cards are used simultaneously in two Type II PCMCIA slots, one may experience some cable interference requiring use of only one communication card at a time. When the ThinkPad 360PE system is used with either the IBM ThinkPad Dock I or IBM ThinkPad Dock II, for the comfort and convenience of the user, the height of the system should be adjusted or an external keyboard should be used. The IBM Keyboard/Mouse Connector accessory is required when attaching an external keyboard to the system via the external input device port. Additional Features Standard advanced design features and complimentary software for the ThinkPad 360PE include: o Pen o TrackPoint II pointing device o Pop-up keyboard for easy customer access to add memory, replace the battery, remove the diskette drive, or upgrade the hard disk drive capacity o Plug-in flexibility with PCMCIA card slot (two Type II or one Type III card) o VESA local bus o 1MB video RAM for enhanced graphics performance o Sleek black design synonymous with the ThinkPad, plus nameplate personalization o Preinstalled software: - PC DOS 6.3 - PenDOS 2.2 - IBM ThinkWrite(TM) 1.21 - Microsoft Windows for Pen Computing 1.0 - Microsoft Windows 3.11 - Lotus** cc:Mail**, for the IBM Global** Network - Lotus Organizer** - Lotus ScreenCam** - Official Airline Guide (OAG)** FlightDisk - Triton CoSession** Host - Prodigy - America Online - SofNet** FaxWorks** - Taxi** - Reuters Money Network** - Second Nature** Screen Saver - Farralon Replica** - Alphanet** FollowFax** - REPRINT** by Sedona - Compel PE** - Monologue** The preinstalled, complimentary software applications enable you to become immediately engaged in the mobile computing experience. Note: Applications, such as America Online** and Prodigy**, that communicate with other systems require an appropriate modem in the ThinkPad 360PE. Description of Preinstalled Applications o IBM ThinkWrite Handwriting Recognition Technology: IBM ThinkWrite is a family of IBM handwriting recognition products and technologies that uses pen for input to the computer. Current products include recognition of discrete handwriting in boxed, ruled, and unruled modes. Writing in upper case, lower case, and mixed upper and lower cases, plus selected symbols and gestures can be recognized. IBM ThinkWrite can be trained and personalized for individual writing styles. o Lotus cc:Mail, for the IBM Global Network: A solution that allows you to send and receive e-mail and faxes across compatible and incompatible networks regardless of the Value Added Network or architecture involved. o Lotus Organizer V1.12: A time manager that provides calendar, "to-do" list, planner, address book, notepad, and anniversary reminder. Note: These products contain the Personal Information Manager functions, but not workgroup scheduling. o Lotus ScreenCam V1.0: Facilitates making of a movie picture of what can be done on a display, annotating with sound, and creating a file that can be transmitted to share the information with others. o Official Airline Guide (OAG) FlightDisk: An electronic runway to the world of travel, providing flight schedules at the touch of a button. o Triton CoSession Host: Remote communications support that allows an IBM technician to dial into your PC and fix problems online. o PRODIGY: Access to continually updated news and information, connections to friends and family across the country, interactive learning experiences for children, and more. o America Online (AOL): Access to information needed while on the road, such as news stories, articles from leading magazines, and more. o SofNet FaxWorks V3.0: Allows you to send, receive, view, print, and edit faxes right from the computer. Allows your computer to act similar to a personal answering system. o Taxi: Intelligent mapping for finding addresses and planning routes in key U.S. cities. o Reuters Money Network: Combines investment software with an array of online financial information, news, and data. o Second Nature Screen Saver: Colorful and interesting pictures that can be used as a screen saver and wallpaper. o Farralon Replica: Lets you share most documents with many applications, fonts, graphics, or computer platforms. o Alphanet FollowFax for Windows: Allows you to have a personal FollowFax number that enables fax to reach you in privacy. o REPRINT by Sedona: Enables the transmission of full color documents by phone in seconds to most remote printers equipped with REPRINT. o Compel PE: A complete presentation package that lets you create stunning onscreen presentations in minutes. o Monologue: A text-to-speech program that can be used with preinstalled audio card. Note: The software programs listed in this section are licensed to you under the non-IBM manufacturer's, supplier's, or publisher's terms and conditions. The non-IBM manufacturers, suppliers, or publishers are responsible for providing any service or support associated with these programs. The descriptions of these programs were obtained from information made available by these companies to the general public. IBM does not warrant these products. The models at a glance: Machine Hard Type/ Disk Display/ Description Model Capacity Processor ThinkPad 360PE 2620-B0F 340MB DSTN/DX2 ThinkPad 360PE 2620-B0G 540MB DSTN/DX2 System Expandability Storage: The hard disk on the ThinkPad 360PE is customer-removable, allowing for maximum flexibility of storage requirements. The removable diskette drive also allows end users to configure the ThinkPad 360PE system in different ways to meet changing customer needs. Memory: The ThinkPad 360PE system accommodates multitasking operating systems and applications utilizing large memory with optional 4MB, 8MB, and 16MB IC DRAM cards. Up to 20MB of system memory is possible with these options. Communications: The ThinkPad 360PE system enables connectivity expansion, such as LAN through the IBM Token-Ring 16/4 Credit Card Adapter and the IBM PCMCIA Adapter for Ethernet, and host connection through the IBM 3270 Emulation Adapter. These connectivity solutions provide the synergy of uniting two customer assets -- portable computing and networking. They enable the portable users to access the applications and data available on their network systems. The ThinkPad 360PE system allows users who are currently not using computer power to take advantage of applications for collection and transmission of data to other systems and LANs to bring reference material immediately to hand when in the field. PCMCIA: The ThinkPad 360PE system is designed with a PCMCIA slot that accommodates two Type II or one Type III PC card. The IBM ThinkPad 360PE conforms to the PCMCIA PC Card Standard Release 2.01 and the PCMCIA Card and Socket Services Specification Release 2.0, dated November 1992. This emerging standard allows for the insertion of many devices, such as mass storage, memory, and communications. The PCMCIA Utility Diskette comes with the system unit and contains PCMCIA Socket Services Release 2.0 for DOS, PCMCIA Card Services Release 2.0 for DOS, and PCMCIA Socket Services Release 2.0 for OS/2. Convenient power management function is provided for some IBM PCMCIA cards (for example, modem, 3270, token-ring, Ethernet). For example, when the user is operating with communications application and PCMCIA card, after suspend/resume operation, the user does not need to restart the operating system or communications application. PC Card Director: PC Card Director is provided in a utility diskette for DOS, Microsoft Windows, and OS/2. PC Card Director helps a user to get status and information on PCMCIA cards installed in the system. In addition, on Microsoft Windows, it can register an application program for PCMCIA cards and execute them automatically. Auto Configurator and Memory Device Driver: Auto Configurator and Memory Device Driver enables supported PCMCIA cards by sensing them automatically. A listing of supported PCMCIA cards by Auto Configurator and Memory Device Driver is available from IBM. Advanced Power Management Power Management: The IBM ThinkPad 360PE system provides a power management system that is almost transparent to the user. The highly advanced power management hardware and software provides longer battery life. Automatic and manual power mode (standby/suspend/hibernation) operations offer energy conservation resulting in reduced battery consumption. The IBM ThinkPad 360PE system also provides a ThinkPad Features Program allowing the user to control power usage of the computer. The Fuel-Gauge Program shows remaining battery power. When using the external power, the battery status field indicates whether the battery pack is fully charged or still charging. The ThinkPad Features Program allows the user to preset power management mode for battery operation: low, medium or high performance. Power modes only affect the computer when the battery pack is in use. The user can select settings for component timeouts and select the processor speed. The timeout setting is for shut off of certain components temporarily when there has been no activity for a preset amount of time. The timeout options are: o Suspend timer -- A timeout places the computer in suspend mode. In suspend mode, the computer is off and the information remains in memory. o LCD off timer -- A timeout is set to turn the LCD off if there is no activity for a specified amount of time. o Hard Disk -- A hard disk drive timeout can be set if there is no activity for a specified amount of time. o Processor speed -- This timeout option allows the user to select the speed of the processor. The computer will run faster at higher speed settings; however, lower speed settings allow the computer to run longer on a battery charge. The processor runs at full speed when busy, and slow down when the computer is idle. The following power modes can be initiated automatically or manually: o Standby mode -- Entered for short periods of time, such as when you are having a short conversation. o Suspend mode -- Entered when you are going to be away from the computer for short periods of time. o Hibernation mode -- Entered when you leave your office, then return the following day. PRODUCT POSITIONING The IBM ThinkPad 360PE is positioned as an enhanced addition to the ThinkPad 360 Family of value notebook computers. With a convertible 9.5-inch DSTN display, this notebook computer enables pen and audio technology, at an affordable price. PUBLICATIONS The ThinkPad 360PE User's Guide (S30H-1645) is shipped with the product. The user's guide contains necessary information for setting up the system unit, using features, upgrading options, installing software, and more. The following publications are available for separate purchase. The user's guides and diskette group will be available at the respective planned availability date. To order, call the IBM Software Manufacturing Solution Hotline at 800-879-2755. Order Part Publication Number Number IBM ThinkPad 360PE User's Guide S30H-1645 30H1645 IBM 360PE Diskette Group S30H-1670 30H1670 IBM ThinkPad Technical Reference S83G-7842 30H1651 IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual S85G-1502 19H1080 IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual Supplement S30H-1644 30H1644 IBM ThinkPad Proven brochure G221-0425 IBM ThinkPad 360 Family brochure G221-4122 IBM ThinkPad 360PE Specification Sheet G221-4391 The Technical Reference publications are for programmers, engineers, and others who want to understand the ThinkPad 360PE system unit in greater detail. The publications include functional specifications, hardware specifications, and pin-outs for peripheral connectors. ThinkPad 360PE DX2-DSTN with Digitizer Service Publications (manuals and diskettes) Order Part Publication Number Number IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual S85G-1502 19H1080 IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual Supplement S30H-1644 30H1644 IBM Hardware Maintenance Diskette S82G-3891 82G3891 The Hardware Maintenance Manual contains service and reference information for IBM ThinkPad computers. The service section includes procedures for isolating problems to a FRU, related service procedures, and an illustrated parts catalog. The reference section includes safety information, product description, and general information about system functions. Publications may be ordered from an IBM Authorized Dealer, an IBM representative, or through the Technical Directory. A complete listing of IBM ThinkPad and IBM Personal Computer hardware publications is available by calling the Technical Directory at 800-IBM-PCTB (426-7282). TECHNICAL INFORMATION Specified Operating Environment ThinkPad 360PE DX2-DSTN with Digitizer: Battery operation hours and charging hours are: Function Hours Power off/suspend charging 1.5 Charging during operation 2.0 Quick charging 1.5 Battery operation (range)(1) 3.0-7.0 (1) Figures reflect industry standard tests. Actual battery life depends on power management settings, applications, and customer usage. Physical Specifications ThinkPad 360PE(2) o Width: 297 mm (11.7 in.) o Depth: 210 mm ( 8.3 in.) o Height: 53 mm ( 2.1 in.) o System weight: 3.1 kg (6.8 lb) with battery pack o Battery: 540 g (1.2 lb) o Fixed disk drive (FDD): 220 g (0.5 lb) o AC adapter: 380 g (0.8 lb), includes all cables o Travel weight: 3.5 kg (7.7 lb) (2) Approximate specifications. The actual specifications may vary due to components and manufacturing processes. Electrical Specifications o Universal AC adapter 100-240 V AC, 2.0A, 50/60Hz o Battery pack 9.6V, 1500mAH/cell, 16 cell/pack Heat Dissipation o 102.4 Btu/hour maximum Air Temperature for Shipping and Storage o -20(degs) to 60(degs)C (-4(degs) to 140(degs)F) Relative Humidity for Shipping and Storage o 5% to 95% RH Acoustic Noise Level: Class 3D (office environment) o Sound pressure level operator position: 40 dB (operating) o Sound power level: 5.1 bels (operating); 4.8 bels (idling) Note: The noise emission level stated is the declared (upper limit) sound power level, in bels, for a random sample of machines, typically configured, and operating in idle mode; for example, powered on, but no DASD read/write or other I/O activity. All measurements made in accordance with ANSI S12.10, and reported in conformance with ISO 9296. Operating Environment Air Temperature: 0 -- 8,000 (ft) o Operating: 5(degs) to 35(degs)C or 41(degs) to 95(degs)F (without diskette) o Operating: 10(degs) to 35(degs)C or 50(degs) to 95(degs)F (with diskette inside unit) o System off: 5(degs) to 43(degs)C or 41(degs) to 110(degs)F o Storage/shipment: -20(degs) to 60(degs)C or -4(degs) to 140(degs)F o Wet bulb (maximum): 29.4(degs)C or 85(degs)F Air Temperature: 8,000 -- 10,000 (ft) o Operating: 5(degs) to 31.3(degs)C or 41(degs) to 88(degs)F (without diskette) o Operating: 10(degs) to 31.3(degs)C or 50(degs) to 88(degs)F (with diskette inside unit) o System off: 5(degs) to 43(degs)C or 41(degs) to 110(degs)F o Storage/shipment: -20(degs) to 60(degs)C or -4(degs) to 140(degs)F o Wet bulb (maximum): 25.7(degs)C or 78(degs)F Note: The maximum temperature when the system is on is linearly decreased from 8,000 ft to 10,000 ft. Relative Humidity o Operating: 8% to 95% RH (without diskette) o Operating: 8% to 80% RH (with diskette inside unit) o Storage/shipment: 5% to 95% RH Altitude o 10,000 ft maximum (3,048 m) Agency Approvals o System Unit Approvals: - FCC Class-B Certified to comply with FCC Rules, Part 15 -- ThinkPad 360PE FCC ID: ANO2620CEP - VCCI CLASS 2 (0 db) - CISPR22B - CE MARK - MPR-IIK - UL-1950 - CSA C22.2 No. 950 - NEMKO - SETI - DEMKO - SEMKO - OVE - SASO - NOM o Universal AC/DC Adapter Approvals: - UL-1950 - CSA-C22.2 No. 223 - SEMKO - NEMKO - DEMKO - SETI - OVE - NOM o U.S. Travel (Wall Mount) AC/DC Adapter Approvals: - UL-1950 - CSA-C22.2 No. 223 Software Requirements: The following operating systems support the ThinkPad 360PE: o PenDOS 2.2 o Microsoft Windows for Pen Computing Version 1.0(3) o Pen for OS/2 Version 1.0(4) o PC DOS 6.3 and J6.3/V o PC DOS 7.0 o IBM OS/2 Warp Version 3.0(4) o IBM OS/2 Warp Version J3.0(4) o IBM OS/2 2.1 and 2.11 with APAR fixes PJ09807, PJ09770, PJ08909, PJ10489, PJ08922, PJ09814, PJ09653, PJ10673, PJ09695 and PJ12413(5), (6) o IBM OS/2 2.1 for Windows Version 3.1(4), (6), (7) o MS-DOS 6.2 o Microsoft Windows 3.1/J3.1 o IBM OS/2 LAN Server Entry Version 3.0 o IBM OS/2 LAN Server Advanced Version 3.0 o IBM Extended Services for OS/2(R) o IBM Extended Services(R) with Database Server for OS/2 o IBM Communications Manager/2 Versions 1.0 and 1.1 o IBM Database/2 OS/2 Version 1.0 (3) Interacts with IBM ThinkWrite Handwriting Recognition technology (4) Requires 8MB or more memory (5) APAR PJ12413 is required for OS/2 2.11 (6) Call 800-992-4777 to get these APAR fixes (7) APAR PJ12541 and PJ12460 are required for OS/2 2.1 for Windows Version 3.1 Compatibility and Supported Products Refer to the 2620 Sales Manual pages, or contact your IBM representative, for a complete list of supported features and options and compatible IBM and vendor software. The Sales Manual is updated periodically. The ThinkPad 360PE systems are designed to be compatible with the PS/2(R). The ThinkPad 360PE systems contain BIOS/Easy Setup/Diagnostics in FLASH ROM and also provide a graphical user interface to set up the system and power management features for OS/2 and Windows users. BIOS provides the hardware instructions and interfaces that support the standard features of the ThinkPad 360PE systems and to maintain compatibility with many software programs currently operating under DOS and OS/2 on the Personal Computer XT(TM), Personal Computer AT(R) and the PS/2 family. High-performance BIOS uses 128KB of system memory. Devices Supported: PCMCIA The ThinkPad 360PE DX2-DSTN with Digitizer systems conform to the PCMCIA PC Card Standard Release 2.01 and the PCMCIA Card and Socket Services Specification Release 2.0, dated November 1992. Other PCMCIA adapters that comply with the PCMCIA PC Card Standard Specification Release 2.01 may also function, but have not been tested by IBM. Feature Part Description Number Number IBM 3270 Emulation Credit Card Adapter 2812 0933315 IBM Token-Ring 16/4 Credit Card Adapter II 8072 0933931 IBM Ethernet Credit Card Adapter II for 10BaseT 3290 0934331 IBM Ethernet Credit Card Adapter II for 10Base2 3280 0934330 IBM PCMCIA Data/Fax Modem 3634 73G7098 IBM High Speed PCMCIA Data/Fax Modem 3635 73G7097 IBM 5250 Emulation PCMCIA Adapter 2808 92F3808 Feature Part Description Number Number IBM 40MB PCMCIA Hard Disk Drive 7559 70G8495 IBM 105MB PCMCIA Hard Disk Drive 1901 32G4199 IBM 1MB SRAM PCMCIA Memory Card 92G7229 IBM 2MB SRAM PCMCIA Memory Card 92G7230 IBM 2.4/9.6 Data/Fax Modem 87G9260 IBM 14.4/14.4 Data/Fax Modem 87G9265 IBM RS232 PCMCIA Serial Card 87G9250 IBM Infrared (IR) Wireless Adapter Tethered Transceiver 87G9740 IBM Infrared (IR) Wireless Adapter Integrated Transceiver 87G9743 IBM 5MB ThinkPad File 70G7344 IBM 10MB ThinkPad File 70G7345 IBM 15MB ThinkPad File 70G7346 IBM 5MB PCMCIA Solid State File Card 40G3166 IBM 10MB PCMCIA Solid State File Card 40G3167 IBM 20MB PCMCIA Solid State File Card 40G3168 IBM 30MB PCMCIA Solid State File Card 40G3169 IBM 40MB PCMCIA Solid State File Card 40G3170 IBM PCMCIA 16-bit Audio Adapter* 87G9748 * Refer to the Limitations section Limitations PCMCIA o PC Card point enablers can write directly to the hardware, bypassing defined interface for the Socket and Card Services. These point enablers may interfere with other device drivers that use the defined interface. This can result in problems that are hard to diagnose. Users must ensure that their specific environment is not affected by PC Card point enablers that bypass defined interfaces. o PCMCIA adapter (PC Card) diagnostics program usually does not support slot number greater than two. To diagnose a suspected failing PCMCIA adapter installed in the ThinkPad Port Replicator Model I or IBM ThinkPad Dock II (slot number three or four), for test purposes, install the suspected adapter in a slot number one or two of the system PCMCIA slot and then run the diagnostic program. o "Point Enabler" (one of the device drivers of the PCMCIA adapter) does not support slot number greater than two. The point enabler cannot be used for a PCMCIA adapter (PC Card) installed in the IBM ThinkPad Port Replicator Model I or IBM ThinkPad Dock II (slot number three or four). o High Speed PCMCIA Data/Fax Modem V.32bis achieves transmission of 19.2Kbps with the applications that use BIOS for communication to a serial port. Many applications that bypass the BIOS can approach the theoretical limit of 57.6Kbps. Video o Video capture adapter, which requires VGA pass-through (video pass-through, VESA bus) is not supported by the ThinkPad 360PE when it is used with the IBM ThinkPad Dock I or the IBM ThinkPad Dock II. o The TV Tuner Pack and Analog-to Digital Video Converter Adapter optional features are not supported on the ThinkPad 360PE. o If the audio device driver is disabled, periodic noise will be heard with some applications (such as Storyboard(TM) Live). To avoid the noise, the recommendation is to enable the audio feature (audio feature is enabled by the default setting): - Enable the audio device by PS2.EXE (DOS) or ThinkPad Feature (Windows 3.1, OS/2) - Install the audio feature by following the instructions "Installing the Audio Device Driver" in the User's Guide. o The IBM 8516 touch screen color display requires the TrackPoint(TM) II to be disabled before connecting it to the external display connector. To disable the TrackPoint II, follow the instructions provided in the ThinkPad 360PE DX2-DSTN with Digitizer User's Guide. Passwords o The supervisor password is not supported by ThinkPad 360PE. o The hard disk drive (HDD) password (HDP) is not supported when the HDD is installed in either the IBM ThinkPad Dock I or the IBM ThinkPad Dock II. The HDD password must be removed while the HDD is directly (without a ThinkPad Dock) installed in the computer. After the removal of the HDD password, the drive can be used with the IBM ThinkPad Dock I or the IBM ThinkPad Dock II. The HDD is secured by the security lock and tie-down capability when used with the IBM ThinkPad Dock I or the IBM ThinkPad Dock II. o The password prompt is not displayed when the computer resumes from "partial" suspend mode while it is attached to the IBM ThinkPad Dock I or the IBM ThinkPad Dock II. However, you need to enter a correct password to continue. Battery Pack o When the ThinkPad 750 NiMH battery pack is used, the remaining power (hours and percentage) is displayed. However, when the ThinkPad 360 NiMH battery pack is used, only the remaining power in terms of percentages is displayed. o Battery discharge function of ThinkPad Features is not supported. Considerations when an audio card is installed: o When audio software is used (MIDI player, for example), the CPU speed should be set "fast." o When OS/2 2.11 is installed, audio functions are supported in OS/2 native environment only. Audio support in the WIN-OS/2(TM) sessions of OS/2 is not provided. o When OS/2 Warp is installed, MIDI function is not supported. o When using any audio related AT(R) card (Action Media II, for example), the recommendation is to use an audio device driver that comes with the AT card. o To avoid the noise associated with some applications, it is recommended that you enable the audio feature. Planning Information Cable Orders: All cables are included with the system. Installability: The ThinkPad 360PE DX2-DSTN with Digitizer system requires about 20 minutes for installation. Installation includes unpacking, setting up, and powering on the system. Additional time is required to install other memory, an operating system, and other features. Problem Determination: If a failure is found at initial installation, an instruction or error code will appear on the screen. The user should note this information and refer to the User's Guide shipped with the system unit. System units that fail at installation or during a power up sequence will automatically go to the system diagnostics to isolate the failing field replaceable unit (FRU), or refer the user to the service representative for the ThinkPad 360PE DX2-DSTN with Digitizer. The troubleshooting procedures consist of a power-on self-test, diagnostic tests, and easy-to-follow troubleshooting charts designed to assist the user in isolating a defective machine element. The failing element can then be replaced or repaired under existing warranty provisions. HelpWare Support: IBM HelpWare is a comprehensive set of offerings that provide you with a full range of service and support options in making your computing experience more productive and enjoyable. As part of our commitment to providing you with the support you require, we provide many complimentary HelpWare services during the warranty period of your IBM personal computer. Additional services are available from the HelpWare Support Family. For detailed information on HelpWare, refer to Services Announcement 694-029, dated October 17, 1994, or call the HelpCenter at 800-772-2227. ThinkPad Proven: ThinkPad Proven is an innovative program where IBM is working with a number of industry-leading manufacturers who have tested their products to meet our standards for ThinkPad compatibility and provide warranty and technical support service. The ThinkPad Proven emblem signifies that: o The manufacturer has stated to IBM that it has tested the product to IBM-developed test procedures and assures compliance with ThinkPad compatibility standards. o The product has been approved for use on specific ThinkPad models, which will be listed. o The manufacturer warrants a hardware product for a minimum of three years, a software product for 90 days. Additional information can be found in the ThinkPad Proven brochure. Packaging: ThinkPad 360PE DX2-DSTN with Digitizer model type/model and part numbers: o 2620-B0F 23H2472 -- DSTN, 340MB, DX2/4MB, Audio, Preinstalled Software o 2620-B0G 23H2592 -- DSTN, 540MB, DX2/4MB, Audio, Preinstalled Software ThinkPad 360PE DX2-DSTN Shipment group -- system unit carton contents: o System unit with U.S. English keyboard o 35W Universal AC o Power Cord o Rechargeable battery pack o Untethered stylus Shipment group -- U.S. manual o User's Guide with U.S./Canadian Warranty Statement and FCC Statement o Customer Registration Form o International Hardware Warranty Service o HelpCenter label o Product MAP o Keyboard Template o PCMCIA Card Lock o PCMCIA Slot Cover with Cable Opening o TrackPoint II Cap o Adhesive Tape Eject for Memory Card o PC DOS English Package (no diskette) o PenDOS English Package (with diskette) o MS Windows English Package (no diskette) o MS Windows for Pen Computing English Package Application Envelope Accessories and/or Supplies There are no new accessories. The following accessories were previously announced and can be used with the ThinkPad 360PE DX2-DSTN with Digitizer system. Part Description Number ThinkPad Untethered Stylus 66G3687 ThinkPad 750 FDD External Attachment Kit 66G3618 ThinkPad 750 Battery Pack Safety Cover 66G3686 ThinkPad 750 Key Guard 66G3685 ThinkPad 750 Security Base 66G3684 PS/2 Keyboard/Mouse Connector 54G0441 Security, Auditability, and Control Standard Security Features o Passwords - A Power-on password (POP) protects the system from unauthorized use. If a POP is set, the password prompt appears: -- Each time the system is turned on -- When the system is returned to normal operation from suspend mode by opening the computer notebook or by pressing the Fn key. If the return to normal operation is caused by the timer or an incoming call through modem, the password prompt does not appear. The LCD remains blank until the correct password is entered. - The HDD password is a feature of the systems. It is used to protect HDD data. Once HDP is set, data on the HDD cannot be accessed without the correct HDP. Because the HDP is stored in the HDD, the data remains protected even if the HDD is removed to another system. The HDP password prompt appears: -- Each time the system is turned on -- When the system is returned to normal operation from suspend mode o Security Locking Lever The locking lever can be used to: - Prevent removal of the computer - Prevent the use of the system by securing the keyboard and internal optional features - Secure the HDD The lever cover is used to shield the locking lever in the computer to prevent removal of internal resources (HDD, memory, FDD) You can use the hole in the locking lever to route a cable or chain and lock the system to a table or desk, for example: o You can use the hook on the HDD locking mechanism to leash with a user-selected padlock and chain or cable. Security Optional Features o Security Base: The security base acts as a cradle for the system, which serves as physical security: - Bolts the system to the desk - Keylocks the system in the security base with the HDD - Provides a locking mechanism -- padlock is user's choice - Keylocks the Port Replicator Models I and II in the security base with the PCMCIA cards (Model I) - Protects removal of HDD - Protects access to the screw holes in the system - Protects access to the system expansion and I/O connectors End users are responsible for evaluation, selection and, implementation of security features, administrative procedures, and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. TERMS AND CONDITIONS The 2620 is available for purchase under the terms of the IBM Customer Agreement. IBM Credit Corporation Financing: Term leases and installment payment plans are available for commercial and state and local government customers. Warranty Period o System Hardware (2620): One year. An optional three-year EasyServ warranty is available via special bid. Remarketer inventory is not eligible for three-year warranty. Contact your special bids coordinator for terms and conditions. o System Battery: One year o Media: Three months o IBM Programs: Three months o Non-IBM Programs: Not warranted by IBM; warranty if any, is as provided by the program's supplier. Licensing: IBM programs included with the ThinkPad 360PE are licensed under the terms and conditions of the IBM Program License Agreement and IBM System Programs License Agreement. A copy of these agreements is included in the documentation shipped with the system. Non-IBM Programs are available from IBM as distributed by the program supplier. Terms and conditions of the supplier apply. They are included in their respective program packages in the documentation shipped with the systems and are passed on to the customer. Warranty Service ThinkPad EasyServ: Warranty service for the ThinkPad 360PE will be provided via ThinkPad EasyServ. ThinkPad EasyServ is a courier repair service in which the ThinkPad system will be picked up at the customer's location and delivered to an IBM-designated repair location. The repair location will repair the system and return it to the customer. Charges for the courier service will be paid by IBM. If warranty service is required, the customer should call the IBM HelpCenter at 800-772-2227. The HelpCenter will assist the user with problem isolation for hardware and software. Should a hardware problem be identified, the HelpCenter will arrange for a courier to pick up the system for overnight delivery (where available) to the repair location. Most repairs should be made the same day the system is received at the repair location. Customers should keep the original shipping carton for shipping to the repair location. If the original shipping carton is not available, the courier will deliver a shipping carton and return to pick up the system for delivery to the repair location. International Warranty Service: Customers who travel or need to move products to another country will be able to register the products for IBM International Warranty Service. Upon registering with the International Warranty Service Office (IWSO), IBM will issue an International Warranty Service Certificate that will be honored virtually worldwide, where IBM or IBM resellers sell and service IBM PC products. During the original warranty period, customers will be provided with service through the service delivery methods available for their specific IBM system in the servicing country. For more information on IBM International Warranty Service or to register your IBM PC systems, contact IBM at 800-IWS-7426 (497-7426). Refer to Services Announcement 694-028 dated, October 17, 1994, for additional details. Alternative Service o IBM On-Site Repair (IOR) On-site service will not be offered as a generally available option. Customers who require a more timely repair option can select either the ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option or on-site service via a special bid process. Contact your area service marketing specialist for details. o ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option Maintenance Service o ThinkPad EasyServ (2620) Maintenance Agreement ThinkPad EasyServ is a courier repair service in which the ThinkPad system will be picked up at the customer's location and delivered to an IBM-designated repair location. The repair location will repair the system and return it to the customer. Charges for the courier service will be paid by IBM. o ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option The ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option allows customers whose mobile machines are under an IBM EasyServ Warranty or IBM EasyServ Maintenance Agreement to upgrade the service to overnight repair with a per incident charge. Customers should call the IBM HelpCenter at 800-772-2227 for information on using this service. o IBM IOR Via Special Bid Process Only o IBM Per Call Service Note: Non-IBM products installed in a ThinkPad 360PE system either on Warranty or Maintenance Service may be serviced by IBM. Additional service charges may apply. For eligibility and charges, a special bid should be submitted. IBM Hourly Service Rate Classification: One IBM Warranty Service, IBM Maintenance Service, or IBM Hourly Service can be obtained by calling the HelpCenter at 800-772-2227. IBM Hourly Service is available at the applicable rate and terms, including element exchange price if applicable. Product Availability Status: New product available Field Installable Features: Yes Model Conversions: No Customer Setup: Yes Licensed Internal Code: No National Education Price (NEP): A NEP is available. CHARGES Machine Single Part Type/ Unit Description Number Model Price* 360PE (340MB,DSTN,DX2) 2620B0F 2620-B0F $3,699 360PE (540MB,DSTN,DX2) 2620B0G 2620-B0G 4,049 * The single unit price reflects the purchase price for a single unit acquired from IBM, and is subject to change without notice. This price is for information purposes only, and shall not limit in any way the remarketers' ability to set their own prices for IBM products. Annual Minimum Maintenance Charges Machine ThinkPad Type/Model EasyServ 2620-B0F $162 2620-B0G 162 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 26 18:16:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29288; Wed, 26 Apr 95 18:16:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17797; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 17:50:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 17:50:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17762; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 17:50:25 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA19683 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Wed, 26 Apr 1995 17:50:18 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA23002; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 17:50:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 17:50:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Many fixes for Mwave Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Once again from the BBS, hopefully the ftp site will reappear soon. IBM Mwave Feature Service Diskettes Ver 1.10 March 28, 1995 ============================================ Here are the files that relate to this release of MWave code: MWD110-1.EXE MWave version 1.10 for DOS - disk 1 of 2 MWD110-2.EXE MWave version 1.10 for DOS - disk 2 of 2 MWW110-1.EXE MWave version 1.10 for windows - disk 1 of 7 MWW110-2.EXE MWave version 1.10 for windows - disk 2 of 7 MWW110-3.EXE MWave version 1.10 for windows - disk 3 of 7 MWW110-4.EXE MWave version 1.10 for windows - disk 4 of 7 MWW110-5.EXE MWave version 1.10 for windows - disk 5 of 7 MWW110-6.EXE MWave version 1.10 for windows - disk 6 of 7 MWW110-7.EXE MWave version 1.10 for windows - disk 7 of 7 MWO110-1.EXE MWave version 1.10 for OS/2 and Warp - disk 1 of 2 MWO110-2.EXE MWave version 1.10 for OS/2 and Warp - disk 2 of 2 MWOS2AUD.EXE MWave Audio Drivers for OS/2 2.1 and 2.11 (not Warp) (MMPM) MWWRPAUD.EXE MWave Audio Drivers for Warp (no earlier versions ofOS/2) (VSD) TPMWHPFS.EXE Patch to allow MWave 1.10 upgrade on HPFS systems. FWVTB421.EXE FaxWorks Voice! ver. 3.00f.042 disk 1 of 2 FWVTB422.EXE FaxWorks Voice! ver. 3.00f.042 disk 2 of 2 If you have a DOS/windows system and you have the original MWave version 1.00 disks for windows (7 disks) you only need to download the two MWave for DOS disks, the first two MWave for windows disks and the two FaxWorks Voice! disks to upgrade to MWave 1.10 (note that it doesn't matter which version you have installed currently, 1.00 or 1.02). When performing the windows upgrade you will be instructed to insert the third disk for windows - just use disk 3 from the version 1.00 set. You do not have to update the WAV samples since there haven't been any changes since version 1.00. If you have a DOS/windows system and you don't have the original MWave version 1.00 disks but you do have the MWave code installed and running then you will need the two MWave for DOS disks, the first three MWave for windows disks and the two FaxWorks Voice! disks to upgrade to MWave 1.10. Please ensure all DOS upgrades are performed prior to the Windows upgrades in the above situations. If you have OS/2 2.1 or 2.11 you will need the two MWave for OS/2 and Warp disks and the MWave Audio Drivers for OS/2 disk (note that this last disk is the same as the third MWave for OS/2 disk that was in the preloaded diskette factory, so if you already have that disk created you won't need to download this file). You will also need the file TPMWHPFS.EXE file if you have OS/2 installed on an HPFS file system. You will also need various DOS, windows and FaxWorks Voice! disks as outlined above. If you have Warp you will need the two MWave for OS/2 and Warp disks and the MWave Audio Drivers for Warp disk. You will also need the file TPMWHPFS.EXE file if you have Warp installed on an HPFS file system. You will also need various DOS, windows and FaxWorks Voice! disks as outlined above. What These Diskettes Do ----------------------- These Mwave Feature Service diskettes update the Mwave System programs stored on the hard drive of ThinkPad models 755CE/CD/CSE. If you are experiencing any of the problems listed in the following Summary of Problem Fixes section or wish to use any of the new functions listed in the following Summary of New Function Supported section, please follow the instructions given in the Updating Feature Programs section below to update the Mwave feature program of your ThinkPad 755 family computer. Summary of New Function Supported --------------------------------- The following functions that were not part of the Mwave support (version 1.0) as delivered on 755CD, 755CE, and 755CSE ThinkPads are included in this new version. (Some of these functions were previously made available as downloadable files on the PC Company Bulletin Board System (BBS) as well as on other electronic bulletin boards.) Class 2 fax Support OS/2 Warp Support High Quality MIDI Synthesizer Support for OS/2 Warp Release Version --------------- Version 1.10 Function upgrade and corrective service to support the Mwave component of ThinkPad 755CD, 755CE, and 755CSE. This version replaces and supersedes all previous versions of Mwave software for 755CD, 755CE, and 755CSE ThinkPads. Changed/Fixed Item ------------------ Note: n.nn Diskette Version (e.g. 1.10 Version 1.10) (New) New Function or Enhancement Summary of Problem Fixes for ThinkPad 755CD/CE/CSD -------------------------------------------------- NOTE: These feature diskettes include previously available fixes in addition to the 1.10 updates. Reduced the occurrence of "Out of Memory" problems in Windows SYMPTOM: When running certain applications in Windows, an out of memory message appeared. This problem was caused by the amount of memory the various Mwave software components were reserving (locking) and by the way Windows handles that locking function. FIX: Changes were made to reduce the amount of locked memory the Mwave software requires. (This fix was previously available from the PCC BBS as TPW102_1.EXE and TPW102_2.EXE.) AT &W0 &W1 modem command fixed SYMPTOM: Write configuration fails when trying to save both configurations with one AT command. If &W0 & &W1 are used on one AT command line, only the last one actually works. FIX: Updates to code. (This fix was previously available from the PCC BBS as TPW102_1.EXE and TPW102_2.EXE.) Cannot successfully use the Mwave Modem with Remote Access SYMPTOM: When attempting to use the Mwave Modem with Windows for Work Groups' Remote Access System (RAS) the connect result message was not properly recognized. FIX: MODEM.INF was modified. Communication applications unable to find or communicate with Mwave Modem SYMPTOM: Because of the nature of the Mwave Modem, the Windows virtual COM driver didn't find the modem active when starting Windows. FIX: IBMVCD.386 provided a temporary fix for this problem. The Mwave code has been altered and the requirement for IBMVCD.386 no longer exists. Improved speaker phone quality SYMPTOM: Speakerphone volume is too low on certain telephone lines (for example, Japanese lines). When the speaker volume is increased, the microphone gain would decrease. FIX: Microphone gain adjusted to not decrease as speaker volume increases. Some applications (such as FaxWorks) enable the user to adjust the microphone gain manually. Fixed FAX machine incompatibility SYMPTOM: Often seen as a "FAX back" problem, an incompatibility between the Mwave FAX modem and certain FAX machines (or FAX modems) existed. FIX: Mwave code has been updated and known incompatibilities are now resolved. NOTE: There is known problem when Mwave is answering as a FAX modem and the calling FAX machine supports v.33 protocol. If the Mwave modem negotiates at 14,400 bps, it erroneously reports successful negotiation even though it does not support the V.33 protocol. As a work-around for this problem you can set the maximum fax speed to 9600 bps in the fax application, and initiate the fax back service again. The Mwave modem should now negotiate V.29 for 9600 bps and successfully receive the fax. Removed the click sound heard when recording SYMPTOM: When using any application to record WAV files, a clicking sound is audible at the beginning or end of the recording. FIX: The audio driver has been updated. Fixed the incompatibility of DOS communications applications with the Mwave COM setup SYMPTOM: Some DOS communications applications are unable to access the COM ports because of incompatibility with the Mwave COM setup. FIX: COM setup was updated to fix incompatibility. Improved the modem to v.32bis rate renegotiation SYMPTOM: When the quality of a connection on the phoneline decreases (often recognized by the presence of noise), modems renegotiate to lower speeds for data transfer. The Mwave modem renegotiation was taking too long and sometimes causing the connection to be lost. FIX: Mwave modem performance for renegotiation has been improved. Improved modem performance SYMPTOM: Modem data transfer rates were slow when compared to more conventional modems. FIX: Modem performance has been improved, however, with older character mode protocols lower throughput data transfer will be experienced. If one of these protocols, such as XMODEM, must be used, some improvement may be achieved by turning off data compression before establishing the modem connection (by using the AT \N0 "H2 commands). Updating Feature Programs ------------------------- Notes: - You need an AC adapter and a charged battery pack to update the system program. - If your computer is attached to a ThinkPad Dock I or a port replicator, turn off the computer and detach it before proceeding. - If you use native DOS modem/games and Windows, you must install both the DOS v1.10 and Windows v1.10 updates at the same time. 1. Print these instructions or display on another computer. 2. Firmly connect the AC adapter to the computer. 3. Turn on the computer and boot to the operating system where Mwave is installed. a. Mwave for DOS updates: - Insert the Mwave for DOS Diskette 1 into the diskette drive. - Go to the full screen DOS prompt. Do NOT use the DOS box. - Type "A:INSTALL" and press Enter. - Follow the instructions on the installation windows and insert additional diskettes when prompted. - If error messages appear at the end of installation, click OK and complete the installation. (Even though these messages have appeared, the installation should be successful.) - When installation is complete, reboot your ThinkPad. b. Mwave for Windows updates: NOTE: Before you update Mwave for Windows, make sure that you update Mwave for DOS. - From Windows Program Manager menu bar, select File and then select Run. - Insert the Mwave for Windows Diskette 1 into the diskette drive. - In the Command line entry box, type "A:SETUP" and press Enter. - Follow the instructions on the installation windows and insert additional diskettes when prompted. - If error messages appear at the end of installation, click OK and complete the installation. (Even though these messages have appeared, the installation should be successful.) - When installation is complete, close Windows and reboot your ThinkPad. c. Mwave for OS/2 2.11 and OS/2 Warp updates: NOTES: i. To install Mwave for OS/2 Warp, - Windows 3.1 must be installed in a directory named "Windows" or "Win31". This directory must be accessible to the OS/2 Warp operating system. - Mwave for DOS and Mwave for Windows must be installed. ii. When installing OS/2 support for OS/2 Warp, use the diskette labelled "OS/2 Audio P/N 30H2049, Disk 1 of 1". iii.When installing OS/2 support for OS/2 2.11, use the diskette labelled "OS/2 Audio P/N 83G9146, Disk 1 of 1". iv. If you have already installed Options Diskette (version 1.03) upgrade AND you then install the 1.10 upgrade, do the following: a. Restart the system and boot OS/2 2.11. b. Open the Mwave Discriminator, select the Options pull-down, and click on Settings. c. On the Discriminator Settings window, select the first parameter and click on the icon until the parameter is set to Modem on Silence. d. Select the OK push button. Resetting this parameter enables the modem to work correctly. - Insert the Mwave for OS/2 Diskette 1 into the diskette drive. - Go to an OS/2 window. - Type "A:SETUP" and press Enter. - Follow the instructions on the installation windows and insert additional diskettes when prompted. - After Mwave diskette 2 has completed, shutdown OS/2 and reboot your ThinkPad. - Insert the Mwave for OS/2 Audio Diskette 1 of 1 into the diskette drive. - In an OS/2 window, type "A:SETUP" and press Enter. - When installation is complete, shutdown OS/2 and reboot your ThinkPad again. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 26 23:45:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16183; Wed, 26 Apr 95 23:45:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13415; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 23:28:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 23:28:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13404; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 23:28:38 -0400 Received: by FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA00786; Wed, 26 Apr 95 23:29:27 EDT Date: Wed, 26 Apr 95 23:29:27 EDT From: fox@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (David Fox) Message-Id: <9504270329.AA00786@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Sound under Linux? Does anyone know if the thinkpad sound hardware can be accessed from Linux? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 26 23:47:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16910; Wed, 26 Apr 95 23:47:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13962; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 23:35:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 23:35:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13939; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 23:35:37 -0400 Received: by FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA00790; Wed, 26 Apr 95 23:36:24 EDT Date: Wed, 26 Apr 95 23:36:24 EDT From: fox@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (David Fox) Message-Id: <9504270336.AA00790@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Sound under Linux? > Does anyone know if the thinkpad sound hardware can be > accessed from Linux? I should be more specific - I mean the Thinkpad 755CE. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 27 00:18:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24401; Thu, 27 Apr 95 00:18:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16463; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 00:06:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 00:06:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from baijuyi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16453; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 00:06:48 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by baijuyi (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id MAA35805 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 12:04:12 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199504270404.MAA35805@baijuyi> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 12:04:12 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text Hi, Just another linux question: Is, XF86-3.1.1-SVGA.tar.gz Server for Super VGA-based boards. Or, XF86-3.1.1-VGA16.tar.gz Server for VGA/EGA-based boards. installable on a TP360(mono) with a normal SVGA external monitor? Ta. ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 27 00:21:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24441; Thu, 27 Apr 95 00:21:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16991; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 00:11:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 00:11:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from thumper.pomona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16981; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 00:11:35 -0400 Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #9731) id <01HPT4L0BN5C8WXOGL@POMONA.EDU>; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 21:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 21:10:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Chan Subject: Linux To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HPT4OJ7ZMG8WXOGL@POMONA.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I know this is probably a very dumb question but what exactly is Linux? I've been hearing people on this list talk about it for months now but I have no idea what it is. Thank you for listening to what must be a very basic question. paul From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 27 13:59:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24885; Thu, 27 Apr 95 13:59:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19061; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 13:42:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 13:42:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19050; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 13:42:06 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id NAA25174 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 13:45:58 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 13:45:58 -0400 From: Don Whiteside Message-Id: <199504271745.NAA25174@shadow.net> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: (fwd) Re: ThinkPad "Cat Tongue" Caps Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops Potentially very interesting..... Path: anshar.shadow.net!uunet!news.nyc.pipeline.com!news.cs.columbia.edu!news.columbia.edu!inibara.cc.columbia.edu!yn25 From: yn25@inibara.cc.columbia.edu (Yann Nicolas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops Subject: Re: ThinkPad "Cat Tongue" Caps Date: 25 Apr 1995 12:54:39 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3niref$lbv@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3nerrl$61n@clam.rutgers.edu> <3ng7uk$7tt@anshar.shadow.net> <3nhkkp$ft3@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: inibara.cc.columbia.edu >>> My sources tell me that the part no. is >>> 84G6536 - $15.50 per package >>> To order: 1-800-388-7087--they take credit cards. Expect a 15-30 day >>> backorder. >>> --andy I dunno... I ordered mine from the IBM Replacement Part number (800-388-7080) and got 4 caps for $3.55... That was about 6 weeks ago... (~~~) *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* ( Yann Nicolas ) =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= (~~~) |\| Columbia U. Libraries -- ALLEZ RENNES!! -- nicolas@columbia.edu |/| |\| ________________/ SiXXX in '96!! \____________ Go 49ers! |/| (___) *=*=*=' http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~yn25/soccer.html `=*=*=*=* (___) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 27 21:16:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08414; Thu, 27 Apr 95 21:16:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22054; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:04:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:04:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22038; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:04:14 -0400 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA26606; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:03:29 -0400 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199504280103.VAA26606@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: ThinkPad "Cat Tongue" Caps To: dwhite@shadow.net (Don Whiteside) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199504271745.NAA25174@shadow.net> from "Don Whiteside" at Apr 27, 95 01:45:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >>> My sources tell me that the part no. is > >>> 84G6536 - $15.50 per package > >>> To order: 1-800-388-7087--they take credit cards. Expect a 15-30 day > >>> backorder. > >>> --andy > > I dunno... I ordered mine from the IBM Replacement Part number > (800-388-7080) and got 4 caps for $3.55... That was about 6 weeks ago... I just ordered this part set from IBM Canada on Monday, and the four caps (two cat's tongue, two normal) only cost $CDN 4.75 before taxes. Shipping was free. -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 27 21:55:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09761; Thu, 27 Apr 95 21:55:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25028; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:44:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:43:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from luyou by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25018; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:43:56 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by luyou (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA16789 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 09:38:16 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199504280138.JAA16789@luyou> Subject: TP360 mono screen info.. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 09:38:16 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text hi, currently setting up XFree86 3.1.1 It needs info about the "monitor" like the horiz and verti scan rates and bandwidth. Can anyone with a technical manual supply me with this valuable info. Lots of thanks! Any other related info appreciated, cheers. ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 28 03:01:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16963; Fri, 28 Apr 95 03:01:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13673; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 02:42:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 02:42:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from luyou by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13661; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 02:42:46 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by luyou (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id OAA15362 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:36:50 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199504280636.OAA15362@luyou> Subject: XFree86 3.1.1 on the TP360 mono.. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:36:50 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text Finally got XFree86 3.1.1 to run on a TP360 mono screen using the svga X server! The manual did say that the mono screen could take 640x480 max with VGA16 and 1024x768 max with svga, but thanks to a posting a while back from Arne Helme, Subject: TP360CE: NetBSD-1.0 and XFree86-3.1 files Date: Thu, 26 Jan 95 11:45:58 +0100 tweaked the settings a little and got SVGA to run on the mono! Hope nothing goes wrong after a few days of running linux+X (; I'd still like any info on the mono screen (request posted earlier) ps. Personally this is better/faster than developing with gcc on OS/2 Warp! ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 28 14:30:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20530; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:30:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15867; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:11:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:11:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15855; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:11:28 -0400 From: Received: from MILANESE.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA25923; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:11:18 EDT Received: by milanese.MIT.EDU (5.57/4.7) id AA06746; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:11:06 -0400 Message-Id: <9504281811.AA06746@milanese.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Sound Chip Info. - Linux ? Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:11:02 EDT Does anyone know where to get programming info for the sound board in the 755 so I can get it working under Linux? Thanks Bill Daughton -------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 29 13:40:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26675; Sat, 29 Apr 95 13:40:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28533; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 13:23:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 13:23:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28523; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 13:23:22 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.44] (mac44.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA05465; Sat, 29 Apr 95 13:23:11 EDT Message-Id: <9504291723.AA05465@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 13:31:46 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: OS2, 3c589 boot problem fixed Problem: 3com 3c589 PCMCIA card needs to be inserted for WARP to boot properly with TCPIP for OS2 2.0 installed. Solution: There is an update for the ELPC3.OS2 file (\ibmcom\macs directory of my system) which solves this, leaving NO remaining problems that I can find! 3cheers for 3com! I even got an email notifying me of the fix. The file is not on the 3com ftp site, but can be found in the patches and fixes directory of the 3com bulletin board. The file is 3C589N.EXE. From the look of it, this is a compressed 4.1 drivers disk with this one file fixed. Minor Tirade: One would think that a company which specializes in ethernet cards would update their ftp site before their phone BBS. Downloading over a phone line is painful and expensive! ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 29 17:11:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29142; Sat, 29 Apr 95 17:11:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08803; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 16:57:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 16:57:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from handel.cs.colostate.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08791; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 16:57:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199504292057.QAA08791@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by handel.cs.colostate.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28972; Sat, 29 Apr 95 14:57:36 -0600 From: joseph foss Subject: ftp.pcco.ibm.com LIVES To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sat, 29 Apr 95 14:57:36 MDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] I tried ftp.pcco.ibm.com and it looks like the /pub directory has been restored. I hope all the mail I sent to the ftp admin at Advantis worked in some small way. Joe Foss fossj@cs.colostate.edu on a 1 man crusade against pre-installed software w/o a way to get real disks. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 30 15:19:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24493; Sun, 30 Apr 95 15:19:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23867; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 15:05:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 15:05:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23823; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 15:05:42 -0400 Received: from huxley.anu.edu.au (ask611@huxley.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.12]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id EAA06921; Mon, 1 May 1995 04:59:42 +1000 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by huxley.anu.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) id FAA29316; Mon, 1 May 1995 05:05:34 +1000 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 05:05:34 +1000 Message-Id: <199504301905.FAA29316@huxley.anu.edu.au> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: preinstalled software (stuff on another topic deleted) > >Joe Foss >fossj@cs.colostate.edu >on a 1 man crusade against pre-installed software w/o a way to get real disks. > what's worse is not having an easy way to uninstall the preinstalled "demos". i didn't mind getting the preinstalled software, and some of it i could get interested in. but i do mind having to pay money to get an uninstaller to get rid of all the bits and pieces of packages i did not ask for. i would think having to do that will antagonize many of the potential users these companies are trying to reach. so, if ibm is going to load these unrequested packages/demos for whatever reason - if they can make extra money out of it fine - each such package should have at minimum an uninstall (completely) option. it would probably be advantageous also to have - a) a way to make disks of the s/w for backup; and, b) an uninstall to disk (for later reinstallation if desired). regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200