From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 1 12:55:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10433; Fri, 1 Sep 95 12:55:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29558; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 12:39:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 12:39:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tequesta.gate.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29545; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 12:39:26 -0400 Received: from hopi.gate.net (jbush@hopi.gate.net [199.227.0.13]) by tequesta.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA31288 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 12:38:14 -0400 Received: (from jbush@localhost) by hopi.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA43006; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 12:33:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 12:33:44 -0400 (EDT) From: James Bush To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: trumpet Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII using a tp755ce trumpet in windows trumpet works fine with the pcmcia card and serial port modem. but it will not function using the internal modem. appreciate any suggestion to make trumpet compatible with the internal modem. any particular settings that have to be made? thank you jamie From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 1 13:11:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11349; Fri, 1 Sep 95 13:11:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02086; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:04:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:04:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from aaRS.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02076; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:04:00 -0400 Received: by aaRS.mit.edu (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA22581; Fri, 1 Sep 95 12:59:09 -0400 From: "Arturo J. Morales" Message-Id: <9509011259.ZM22579@aaRS.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 12:59:08 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 810mb HD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Ok, so i found a toshiba 810mb HD for $650, which is ~$20 less than RoadWarrior. The place is WorldWide technologies which is listed in Don's HomePage. My questions: Is this drive going to work w/o a problem? iow, has anyone done the swap with the toshiba 810HD? Has anyone bought from them before? Thanks again... $650 dollars is a lot of money and I don't want to screw up :) Art -- Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | art@aars.mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://minihelix.mit.edu/top.html | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 1 13:47:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13857; Fri, 1 Sep 95 13:47:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06819; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:39:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:39:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06799; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:39:33 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id NAA22032; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:44:18 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:44:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: "Arturo J. Morales" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 810mb HD In-Reply-To: <9509011259.ZM22579@aaRS.mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 1 Sep 1995, Arturo J. Morales wrote: > Ok, so i found a toshiba 810mb HD for $650, which is ~$20 less than RoadWarrior. > The place is WorldWide technologies which is listed in Don's HomePage. > > My questions: > Is this drive going to work w/o a problem? iow, has anyone done the swap with > the toshiba 810HD? Has anyone bought from them before? > > Thanks again... $650 dollars is a lot of money and I don't want to screw up :) WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING!!!! Toshiba makes _2_ series of drives in the 500M and 800M range - one is the short 12.7mm high drives which are just fine. The others are 19mm high which WILL NOT FIT IN THE CADDY! Worldwide may have begun carrying the 12.7mm but when I bought my druve in June they only had the 19mm. They are NOT GREAT about specifications, so look at the model number and data sheet over on Road Warrior and make sure they are the same drives - WW _will_ provide you with the model number. I think the short drives are MKVs and not just MKs, but be sure sure sure! And I'd be clear to anyone you buy from that it's for a laptop upgrade and you want to be able to return it if it's not what you need. Whether you insist on refund and not just exchange is up to you, but the market is plenty big that you can demand something from them... ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 1 15:27:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21558; Fri, 1 Sep 95 15:27:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06496; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 15:16:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 15:16:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from imag.imag.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06452; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 15:16:14 -0400 Received: from safran-28 (safran.imag.fr [129.88.29.1]) by imag.imag.fr (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA21117; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 21:16:00 +0200 Received: (elf@localhost) by safran-28 (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.4) id VAA26880; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 21:15:59 +0200 Message-Id: <199509011915.VAA26880@safran-28> From: Eugene.Fiume@imag.fr (Eugene Fiume) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 21:15:58 -0600 In-Reply-To: James Bush's message as of Sep 1, 7:00pm X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: James Bush , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: trumpet On Sep 1, 7:00pm, James Bush wrote: } trumpet works fine with the pcmcia card and serial port modem. but it } will not function using the internal modem. Hmm. I have a 755CE and trumpet worked just fine for me, in the sense of accessing the MWAVE modem and dialing, etc. I haven't used it for SLIP or PPP, so I can't verify that these protocols work, though this should be independent of the port you're using. At the risk of over- simplifying the problem, ensure that your ThinkPad config is consistent with trumpet's. It's easy to forget that your MWAVE modem is usually on COM2, IRQ3, 2F8h, for example, instead of the "regular" serial port at COM1, IRQ4, 3F8h. Also, make sure your modem is initiated under Windows before accessing it via any communication software. I use kermit for comm stuff under DOS/Win, because for me it is more reliable and robust (inasmuch as anything is under that quaint combination of kludgy OS's). Others may differ. Of course, if you want to run NFS over a phone line or something(!), kermit is not the solution. Regards, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 1 17:06:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29613; Fri, 1 Sep 95 17:06:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19193; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 16:54:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 16:54:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom6.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19180; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 16:54:32 -0400 Received: by netcom6.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA18102; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:50:20 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:50:20 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199509012050.NAA18102@netcom6.netcom.com> To: art@aaRS.mit.edu, dwhite@shadow.net Subject: Re: 810mb HD Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU $650 is not such a good price for an 810 meg drive these days. Flipping thru the ads in Computer Shopper I saw some places selling them for under $500. It wasn't clear whether that was a 19mm high unit or 12.5mm, but generally there doesn't seem to be much of a premium for 12.5mm. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 1 18:06:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07530; Fri, 1 Sep 95 18:06:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25890; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 17:54:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 17:54:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25864; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 17:54:39 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id RAA17087; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 17:59:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 17:59:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Paul Rubin Cc: art@aaRS.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 810mb HD In-Reply-To: <199509012050.NAA18102@netcom6.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 1 Sep 1995, Paul Rubin wrote: > $650 is not such a good price for an 810 meg drive these days. > Flipping thru the ads in Computer Shopper I saw some places > selling them for under $500. It wasn't clear whether that > was a 19mm high unit or 12.5mm, but generally there doesn't > seem to be much of a premium for 12.5mm. That's contrary to my experience. I found the 12.7s were almost $100 more. Of course, this was in late May when they were a little more scarse than now, perhaps it's changed. I'd pay a bit of a premium for returnability personally. Anyone got an idea about current 500M _with_ caddies prices? I'm toying with getting one to run FreeBSD on.... ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 1 18:46:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09869; Fri, 1 Sep 95 18:46:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00470; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 18:35:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 18:35:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom5.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00455; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 18:35:10 -0400 Received: by netcom5.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA21840; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 15:32:13 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 15:32:13 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199509012232.PAA21840@netcom5.netcom.com> To: dwhite@shadow.net, phr@netcom.com Subject: Re: 810mb HD Cc: art@aaRS.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU I'm not sure about 19 vs 12mm in 810 meg drives. For 500 meg, there used to be a premium but the price is now about the same. I have an off-brand notebook which can take a 19mm drive but came with a 12.5mm 540 meg drive, which they must have just used for convenience's sake. I see 500 meg drives with thinkpad caddies advertised for $699 but that seems awfully steep. A while back, I remember seeing empty caddies advertised for $179.00 or something like that. Wasn't there some discussion on this list about getting caddies made by a plastics company once? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 1 19:22:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11546; Fri, 1 Sep 95 19:22:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02204; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 19:13:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 19:13:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from aaRS.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02185; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 19:13:02 -0400 Received: by aaRS.mit.edu (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA24713; Fri, 1 Sep 95 19:08:17 -0400 From: "Arturo J. Morales" Message-Id: <9509011908.ZM24711@aaRS.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 19:08:17 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Oops, wrong price... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Actually, the 540mb Hd is $399 sorry 'bout that... Art -- Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | art@aars.mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://minihelix.mit.edu/top.html | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 1 19:22:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11601; Fri, 1 Sep 95 19:22:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02171; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 19:12:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 19:11:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from aaRS.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02161; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 19:11:57 -0400 Received: by aaRS.mit.edu (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA24704; Fri, 1 Sep 95 19:07:12 -0400 From: "Arturo J. Morales" Message-Id: <9509011907.ZM24702@aaRS.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 19:07:11 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Great Price on 810mb HD... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Well, thanks to all who responded... I found a great price for a 810mb HD at Hard Drives International (Insight) they have the 810mb 12.7mm HD for $537 plus ~$18 for S/H, the only drawback is that there is about a 10 day wait on them... They also have a 540mb HD for (i think) $344... They are New Toshiba Hard drives... (I thought that this was a great price and therefore went ahead an ordered an 810mb HD... Finally, i can run useful applications besides having fun with Linux...) Art -- Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | art@aars.mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://minihelix.mit.edu/top.html | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 1 20:06:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14369; Fri, 1 Sep 95 20:06:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06107; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 19:57:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 19:56:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom9.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06096; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 19:56:56 -0400 Received: by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id QAA00491; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 16:54:05 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 16:54:05 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199509012354.QAA00491@netcom9.netcom.com> To: art@aaRS.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Great Price on 810mb HD... Be careful about "10 day waits"; they have a habit of turning into "10 week waits" or "10 month waits". Whenever I'm skeptical of someone's claims to have something in stock I always ask for federal express overnight shipment. That usually makes them figure out that the item is not in stock after all, if it's not. I saw Compu-D (I think) advertising 810 meg drives for somewhat under $537, but I don't know if those were 12.5mm. I saw Sager advertising 1.3 gig drives (undoubtedly 19mm) for $699 but this probably required buying a Sager computer. Is installing a 19mm-high drive in a Thinkpad totally hopeless even if one is willing to hack up the plastic caddy? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 1 20:14:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15012; Fri, 1 Sep 95 20:14:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06977; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 20:05:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 20:05:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06962; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 20:05:47 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA07623; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 20:04:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 20:04:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Paul Rubin Cc: art@aaRS.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Great Price on 810mb HD... In-Reply-To: <199509012354.QAA00491@netcom9.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 1 Sep 1995, Paul Rubin wrote: > Is installing a 19mm-high drive in a Thinkpad totally hopeless > even if one is willing to hack up the plastic caddy? When I measured the case in my TP750 many months ago (waaaaay back when 340MB hard drive + caddy cost ~$800 :), the caddy itself is 19mm, the drive is 17mm. If you think you can live without the caddy and just want to use the connector and bare drive, it should fit. Concerns about contaminating the drive with dust/liquid and difficulty removing the connector led me to just buy a 17mm IBM drive at the time. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 1 23:13:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25680; Fri, 1 Sep 95 23:13:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23899; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 23:00:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 23:00:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23889; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 23:00:53 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id XAA09333; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 23:05:43 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 23:05:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Great Price on 810mb HD... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 1 Sep 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > On Fri, 1 Sep 1995, Paul Rubin wrote: > > > Is installing a 19mm-high drive in a Thinkpad totally hopeless > > even if one is willing to hack up the plastic caddy? > > When I measured the case in my TP750 many months ago (waaaaay back when > 340MB hard drive + caddy cost ~$800 :), the caddy itself is 19mm, the > drive is 17mm. If you think you can live without the caddy and just want > to use the connector and bare drive, it should fit. Concerns about > contaminating the drive with dust/liquid and difficulty removing the > connector led me to just buy a 17mm IBM drive at the time. I don't think dust and dirt are a big worry - most drives sit inside dirty computer cases and collect dust. However, the drive is mounted upside down, so the circuit board is facing up, risking scratches. I had to trim holes in the case for the mounting posts, and it is still a little snugger fit when I close the keyboard, but it works. I wouldn't advise it though. You could probably take the entire top off if you wanted to.... I'd avoid it unless you really have to. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 2 01:44:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07808; Sat, 2 Sep 95 01:44:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07912; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 01:30:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 01:30:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07874; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 01:29:51 -0400 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com ([156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA27583 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 22:28:45 -0700 Received: (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id WAA06920 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 22:24:06 -0700 Received: from cc:Mail by espmail.email.com id AA810015039 Fri, 01 Sep 95 21:10:39 Date: Fri, 01 Sep 95 21:10:39 From: "Joe.Bormel" Encoding: 368 Text Message-Id: <9508018100.AA810015039@espmail.email.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: ThinkPad and Dock Two To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: re: IBM's new charger Where are people learning about things like the NEW AC POWER SUPPLIES? Is there a mail order company whose catalog lists ThinkPad Accessories? (The one I have only show the notebooks; no disks, docks, cases, etc with the prices.) What 'must have' items do people recommend for the DOCK II? -Joe From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 2 03:47:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12642; Sat, 2 Sep 95 03:47:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17466; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 03:32:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 03:32:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from noc4.dccs.upenn.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17456; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 03:32:38 -0400 Received: from DOLPHIN.UPENN.EDU by noc4.dccs.upenn.edu id AA22425; Sat, 2 Sep 95 03:32:34 -0400 Received: by dolphin.upenn.edu id DAA03117; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 03:32:34 -0400 From: mtran@dolphin.upenn.edu (Mark Tran) Posted-Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 03:32:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199509020732.DAA03117@dolphin.upenn.edu> Subject: hard drives To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 03:32:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn3.0] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi all, okay, now that prices have dropped considerably on hard drives, i am interested in purchasing one (540 or above) to replace my 170 *ouch*. i've read some stuff about bare drives and drives that come with caddies and the various sizes of drives but am still a bit confused as to which drives will fix in my 755cs. any help will be greatly appreciated. thanks, mark From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 2 03:47:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12647; Sat, 2 Sep 95 03:47:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17019; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 03:28:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 03:28:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom18.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17009; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 03:28:08 -0400 Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id AAA09491; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 00:25:16 -0700 Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 00:25:16 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199509020725.AAA09491@netcom18.netcom.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: hi! phr@netcom.com has been added to the tp750 mailing list. ----... There's also an archive of the past traffic on the list in ftp://swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu/archive/thinkpad/archive Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), and what operating system(s) you are using. (send this to the LIST address -- don't just reply to this message!) Hi! I'm a programmer and laptop buff who uses laptops mostly at home (I hardly ever use my desktop machine and plan to get rid of it soon) but also while travelling. I've had 5 Toshibas and watched their quality go down the tubes over the years; I just tried switching to Samsung but those are not so great either. So it looks like I'm about to bite the bullet and get a Thinkpad. It's a used 755CE, 8/540, about 3 months old and supposedly like new. I haven't seen it yet but I'm told it has 2 fairly benign bad pixels. Price is $3300 including the fancy carrying case that IBM sells. I plan to run Linux on it. The slight reservations I have are (1) I'd really prefer a Pentium processor because of its floating point speed (I work on some DSP apps, would like to have a machine to test Pentium-optimized code that I write, etc.); and (2) I fear the 640x480 screen is going the way of 640k RAM machines. I saw Windoze 95 recently and it really wants more pixels. 800x600 would be a start. In other words, I actually want a 755CX, but it's outside my spending limit ($4k, say). If I really regret not getting the Pentium, I can get the IBM upgrade for the 755CE for $950 or so (ouch). But I don't think there's a screen upgrade available, or if there is it will probably cost a bundle. I figure the 760 will flush out some 755CX's, so if I still feel the need next year I might try to unload the CE then and move up. I feel somewhat foolish spending this much for a 486 machine when for $3795 I can get a Samsung 90 mhz Pentium with a 1.3 gig disk. I do need disk space but can live without it for a while and upgrade the 755 when the prices of 1 gig drives get lower. But it looks like Thinkpads have the best laptop keyboards currently made, and I'm very fussy about keyboards. The keyboard is the main thing that bugs me about the Samsung. Is there any market yet in used 755CX's? Does buying the 755CE I described sound like a good plan? Thanks. Paul From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 2 09:19:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00212; Sat, 2 Sep 95 09:19:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22734; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 09:07:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 09:07:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22724; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 09:07:28 -0400 Received: from efd.lth.se (f91el@saturnus-3 [130.235.41.13]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id PAA17046 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 15:07:20 +0200 Message-Id: <199509021307.PAA17046@kobra.efd.lth.se> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Using Adaptec (PCMCIA SCSI withProblem combining PCMCIA SCSI with 810 MB HD? Date: Sat, 02 Sep 1995 15:07:18 +0200 From: Erik Lindahl Hi, I hveave a n Adaptec (Well, it's reallt y trantor, but sold by awas sold by adaptec..) PCMCIA sSCSI card, SlimsSCSI AAHA+-460. After some initial tweaking, it worked great when mmyith my IBmM 170 MB HD. However, after upgrading to an 810 MB dNon-IBM drive (Although,I t(Iit came with a in a tp"tp-lik"ke" case though..., though...) it wont't find the adapter when booting. If i wswitch back to the esmall170 MB drive (exactly the same configuration i config.sys) it works great. I  The computAnybody Is there anybody who  has 's got a vclue? The computer is a 750C, and I haave udpdated to the lastest BIOS just now..level... Could it be a BIOS bug (oh no!) thatthatbug (oh no!) that has slipped by? Anybody who has a similar configuration working? STnahanx knks in advance, Erik From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 2 09:59:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00628; Sat, 2 Sep 95 09:59:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26934; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 09:50:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 09:50:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26924; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 09:50:11 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id JAA26501 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 09:52:32 -0400 Received: by channel1 (NetXpress 2.02) with UUCP id D71592; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 09:42:48 -0640 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: A couple ez ?s From: bedin@channel1.com (Bedin) Message-Id: <40.1214554.700@channel1.com> Date: Sat, 02 Sep 1995 09:31:00 -0640 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Hello Folks, I have a TP 755c w/170 meg HD...It came w/ PC DOS 6.3 installed and is capable of Disk Compression,, SSTORE/ program. My only ex[perience with compression software was a few years ago with an early version of STACKER. It was a nightmare and i then vowed never to bother with it again..til now....Has anyone had experiece with Superstor/DS ?Is it stable? It seems ez enough to install.. And now for dumb question of the day: Is it good practice to disconnect AC from back of TPad while running..er decide to go mobile without shutting down? And the reverse? Running on battery and then connecting to AC on the fly...? I hope I'm clear.. Thanks to all in advance for the handholding.... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 2 10:58:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08920; Sat, 2 Sep 95 10:58:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02529; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 10:50:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 10:49:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02519; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 10:49:57 -0400 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com ([156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id HAA24065; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 07:48:53 -0700 Received: (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id HAA09117; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 07:44:03 -0700 Received: from cc:Mail by espmail.email.com id AA810049715 Sat, 02 Sep 95 06:48:35 Date: Sat, 02 Sep 95 06:48:35 From: "Joe.Bormel" Encoding: 2311 Text Message-Id: <9508028100.AA810049715@espmail.email.com> To: sandy@sandy.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: joe.bormel@palmtop.com Subject: DOCK 2; from thread: re: IBM's new charger >>On Sat, 26 Aug 95, "Joe.Bormel" wrote: >> >>>What 'must have' items do people recommend for the DOCK II? >> >>Do you have the Dock II? I just bought one and haven't installed >>it yet with my 755Cx. I only must have item for me would be the >>"shelf unit" which covers the Dock II (makes it look more like a >>desktop system and supports an external monitor). I'd like to >>compare notes with you if you're using a Dock II. I just got mine (DOCK 2) to facilitate loading CD-ROM software and to open up connectivity via ISA slots and SCSI. I have loaded Win95 and Plus using it. I've got so much new stuff (and a new job) that I haven't had time to figure out how to exploit it, YET! I have a Syquest drive that I use thru a parallel port SCSI that I'd like to connect. I need the cable to connect the external scsi of the dock to a real scsi-2 connector and its not clear where or how to order this cable. I admit that I haven't RTFM. Can we put cheap IDE drives in dock2? Do we need to tie up an ISA slot to do it and are there special settings to avoid conflict with the C: drive's controller? All this stuff will have to wait till I get Mwave working in win95. I think it's just upgrading to the >16 Meg Mwave driver support, but I'm not there yet. I'm also getting "Error writing to drive C:" messages despite daily scandisk runs. Could be a flakey drive, a flakey new operating system, a flakey connection, etc. These will need to be fixed before DOCK 2 play. Joe ____________________________________/\\__________________ |\ _________________________________(o o)__________________\ | | Joe Bormel ooOO-(_)-OOoo | ____|_| ********** ------------- |______ \ | Reston, VA 22091 __|__ E: joe.bormel@palmtop.com | / \ | (703) 758-9277 --o-(_)-o-- | / / |_________________________________________________________| \ /_________) . . . . . . . __|__ (_________\ : : : ^ : : : | __|__ __|__ 3 3 3 o 3 3 3 __|__ | | D D D O D D D | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 2 10:58:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08926; Sat, 2 Sep 95 10:58:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02507; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 10:49:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 10:49:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02488; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 10:48:54 -0400 Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23012; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 09:12:13 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA27327; Sat, 2 Sep 95 09:12:40 -0400 Date: Sat, 2 Sep 95 09:12:40 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509021312.AA27327@nile.gnat.com> To: mtran@dolphin.upenn.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: hard drives on note to add at the high end, I just bought a CMS 1.3 gigabyte drive for my TP 775CX, cost $1200 from Rockwell Computers in NYC, immediate availability, seems to work pretty well. Price per meg is higher than the 810, but, assuming price of $600 we have seen here, not too much higher (about 25% higher). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 2 18:06:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07751; Sat, 2 Sep 95 18:06:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09122; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 17:50:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 17:50:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kalypso.cybercom.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09101; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 17:50:41 -0400 Received: from mail.cybercom.net (dial2-24.cybercom.net [205.198.81.56]) by kalypso.cybercom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA23156; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 17:47:34 -0400 Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 17:47:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199509022147.RAA23156@kalypso.cybercom.net> X-Sender: dchan@mail.cybercom.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Joe.Bormel" From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: Re: DOCK 2; from thread: re: IBM's new charger Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU At 06:48 AM 9/2/95, you wrote: > >>>On Sat, 26 Aug 95, "Joe.Bormel" wrote: >>> >>>>What 'must have' items do people recommend for the DOCK II? >>> >>>Do you have the Dock II? I just bought one and haven't installed >>>it yet with my 755Cx. I only must have item for me would be the >>>"shelf unit" which covers the Dock II (makes it look more like a >>>desktop system and supports an external monitor). I'd like to >>>compare notes with you if you're using a Dock II. > >I just got mine (DOCK 2) to facilitate loading CD-ROM software and to >open up connectivity via ISA slots and SCSI. I have loaded Win95 >and Plus using it. I've got so much new stuff (and a new job) >that I haven't had time to figure out how to exploit it, YET! > >I have a Syquest drive that I use thru a parallel port SCSI that >I'd like to connect. I need the cable to connect the external >scsi of the dock to a real scsi-2 connector and its not clear where >or how to order this cable. I admit that I haven't RTFM. > >Can we put cheap IDE drives in dock2? Do we need to tie up >an ISA slot to do it and are there special settings to avoid >conflict with the C: drive's controller? I've had nothing but headache trying to put my EZ135 Syquest IDE drive into the Dock II. Has anyone else had problems w/ IDE drives? >All this stuff will have to wait till I get Mwave working in >win95. I think it's just upgrading to the >16 Meg Mwave driver >support, but I'm not there yet. I'm also getting "Error writing >to drive C:" messages despite daily scandisk runs. Could be >a flakey drive, a flakey new operating system, a flakey connection, >etc. These will need to be fixed before DOCK 2 play. > >Joe > ____________________________________/\\__________________ > |\ _________________________________(o o)__________________\ > | | Joe Bormel ooOO-(_)-OOoo | > ____|_| ********** ------------- |______ > \ | Reston, VA 22091 __|__ E: joe.bormel@palmtop.com | / > \ | (703) 758-9277 --o-(_)-o-- | / > / |_________________________________________________________| \ > /_________) . . . . . . . __|__ (_________\ > : : : ^ : : : | __|__ > __|__ 3 3 3 o 3 3 3 __|__ | > | D D D O D D D | > > > > > > > -- "Women...can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em..." -- Tom Arnold (True Lies) Derek V. Chan dchan@cybercom.net chan4@fas.harvard.edu <-- going down on August 18, 1995 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 3 07:57:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25692; Sun, 3 Sep 95 07:57:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00649; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 07:39:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 07:39:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from www.ezl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00630; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 07:39:49 -0400 Received: (from krisdw@localhost) by www.ezl.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id GAA01926; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 06:47:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199509031147.GAA01926@www.ezl.com> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: TP750 Listserve From: "Kris D. Williams" Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 07:39:44 EST Reply-To: "Kris D. Williams" Subject: Re: suspend recovery problem Addressed to: D. Gwyn Jones TP750 Listserve ** Reply to note from D. Gwyn Jones 08/29/95 10:13am GMT > I've noticed similar resume problems with my 755c when using Warp. And as > has been mentioned in another note stream, the ON/OFF switch is ignored > while in suspend mode. > > I could never even get suspend to work with OS/2 2.11, so when I had this > occasional problem on Warp with resuming from suspend, I put it down to > the oft-discussed bug where suspend/resume is affected if you use a power > on password (like I do). > > However, I've recently discovered that resume is in fact working! If you > have a power on password, it prompts you to type it in on resuming, and > what I have seen is that sometimes when using the LCD, the screen doesn't > come up. However, if you assume it has in fact displayed the prompt and > you enter it normally, then the screen comes to life and OS/2 returns! One of the ways that you can identify this 'Partial Resume' is to look at the 'resume' light. It will blink when it is in this state. > So I guess it is just an issue with resume on Warp sometimes failing to > restart the display at the prompt stage of the process. Since I discovered > this, I have never had suspend/resume fail - it is just 50/50 whether the > password prompt is actually visible. **************************************************************** ********************* * Kris D. Williams email: krisdw@ezl.com <-- Note my new email address * * * * Instructor/Developer: Mobile Platform Education * * IBM Education and Training * * * * Co-Owner: Incomm "Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior * * * * My opinions are my own. Really they are! * **************************************************************** ********************* From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 3 09:29:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00162; Sun, 3 Sep 95 09:29:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08369; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 09:15:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 09:15:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08355; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 09:15:26 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id GAA04516; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 06:15:24 -0700 Message-Id: <199509031315.GAA04516@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 95 06:18:16 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Win OS/2 sound on 755Cs/Warp Has anyone on the list gotten Win/OS2 sounds using a TP 755Cs with Warp/Windows and the fixpak applied? My Warp setup works great except that I don't get any system sounds in Windows 3.11. (The OS/2 sounds work great.) Thanks Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 3 11:36:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10206; Sun, 3 Sep 95 11:36:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAB21027; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 11:24:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 11:24:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21008; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 11:23:59 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id IAA06672; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 08:23:56 -0700 Message-Id: <199509031523.IAA06672@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 95 07:59:53 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Warp Fixpak & TP 755Cs For you Thinkpad Warp users, some info on the Warp/Windows fixpak #5: I was unable to get the seamless windows working correctly with straight Warp/Windows. However, after applying the fixpak #5, seamless windows works great. I can now have my windows app icons sit right on the OS/2 desktop, and execute them from there. Much more convenient than having to activate a whole Windows desktop and multitask over to it. Multitasking between the Windows and OS/2 desktops (which I won't be doing much, due to the above) is far faster with the fixpak applied. It used to take around 10 seconds. It now takes about 2. My setup: TP 755Cs, 8MB RAM, 540 MB HDD. Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 3 12:48:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13643; Sun, 3 Sep 95 12:48:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28840; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:38:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:38:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28830; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:38:28 -0400 Received: (from alster@localhost) by alster.port.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA23137; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:46:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:46:24 -0400 (EDT) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: more: Win95 & APM In-Reply-To: <199509031315.GAA04516@chaph.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU I figured out how to make Win95 sleep safely with my 755CE...pull out the power cord ..then suspend :) ....you can plug it back in safely while asleep ...it's flakey waking up with the power cord in ...so I unplug it when I wake it up too. I guess I can deal with that for now. http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 3 13:14:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15333; Sun, 3 Sep 95 13:14:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29763; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:05:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:05:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29748; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:05:04 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA27926; Sun, 3 Sep 95 13:05:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 95 13:05:25 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509031705.AA27926@nile.gnat.com> To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp Fixpak & TP 755Cs which Fixpak's does Warp Connect include? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 3 13:15:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15340; Sun, 3 Sep 95 13:15:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29897; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:07:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:07:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mwunix.mitre.org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29887; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:07:39 -0400 Received: from cyclone.mitre.org (cyclone.mitre.org [128.29.86.13]) by mwunix.mitre.org (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id NAA25319 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:07:37 -0400 Received: from mwppp9.mitre.org by cyclone.mitre.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01028; Sun, 3 Sep 95 13:07:39 EDT Message-Id: <9509031707.AA01028@cyclone.mitre.org> X-Sender: dhite@cyclone X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 03 Sep 1995 13:07:05 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: David Hite Subject: Version Determination I recently got a 755CX, and I'd like to find out what verson of BIOS and MWave I have, so I can upgrade to the latest versions, if necessary. Does anybody know how to find out the version numbers? David From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 3 13:16:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15348; Sun, 3 Sep 95 13:16:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29946; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:08:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:08:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from aaRS.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29935; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:08:28 -0400 Received: by aaRS.mit.edu (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA27619; Sun, 3 Sep 95 13:03:43 -0400 From: "Arturo J. Morales" Message-Id: <9509031303.ZM27617@aaRS.mit.edu> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:03:43 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Win95 or OS/2? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Well, now that I am going to have anough space to put something else besides linux on my 750Cs, I was wondering what OS to put in and suddenly realized that I had been out of the commercial OS loop for too long :) I know that this is probably a stupid question, but can you run Win95 apps under OS/2? On the same token, can you run NT apps under Win95? How about NT apps under OS/2??? Does Win95 run happily with 8megs? Can i get a floppy distribution of Win95? What CDROMs/PCMCIA-SCSI combinations work with win95? OS/2? Is this info in the TP75x FAQ? Where is the newest version? Thanks in advance for your help... Art -- Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | art@aars.mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://minihelix.mit.edu/top.html | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 3 13:55:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19038; Sun, 3 Sep 95 13:55:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01979; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:44:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:44:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01969; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:44:27 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id KAA10310; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 10:44:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199509031744.KAA10310@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 95 10:47:17 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Win95 or OS/2? On Sun, 3 Sep 1995 13:03:43 -0400 you wrote: >I know that this is probably a stupid question, but can you run Win95 apps >under OS/2? On the same token, can you run NT apps under Win95? How about NT >apps under OS/2??? Win 95 apps will not run under OS/2, nor will OS/2 apps run in Win 95. OS/2 runs extremely well in 8BM. Don't know about Win 95; I do know that my local computer weenies recommend 16MB with Win 95. Win 95 is based on cooperative multitasking, whereas OS/2 Warp uses discrete (true) multitasking. Good luck. Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 3 15:55:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26133; Sun, 3 Sep 95 15:55:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12097; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 15:44:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 15:44:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12081; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 15:44:09 -0400 Received: from mailhost.hooked.net (also.hooked.net [199.2.134.6]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA12280; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:43:38 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:43:38 -0700 Message-Id: <199509031943.MAA12280@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Arturo J. Morales" From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: Win95 or OS/2? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU At 01:03 PM 9/3/95 -0400, Arturo J. Morales wrote: >I know that this is probably a stupid question, but can you run Win95 apps >under OS/2? On the same token, can you run NT apps under Win95? How about NT >apps under OS/2??? Most of the NT apps I've tried run in win95, some don't. >Does Win95 run happily with 8megs? Depends on what you mean by happy :) I don't think so, but I don't think windows 3.1 or os/2 run happily in 8 megs either.. I don't think it runs much different from win31 on a speed/ram plot. Are you not running X? Seems like 8megs would bog under X, but I know linux command line runs great even in 4.. >Can i get a floppy distribution of Win95? Sure, but if there's any way you can avoid it, do it! If you have the disk space, the nicest way is to get the cd, then get the files onto your 'pad anyway you can, tape, serial link, modem link (run overnight?) etc.. Then you can install from the harddrive, and you don't have to floppy swap 20 floppies (maybe it's just me, but I *hate* that.) This also lets you easily install/remove components for a while, when you're all set you can just delete the install files. As for whether you want to use win95 or os/2, that's a religeous issue.. I think your best bet is to try them both, they have their strengths and weaknesses. If you don't want to hassle with trying them both, I'd suggest finding someone that can show them both to you at least. Good luck! ____________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 3 16:25:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28820; Sun, 3 Sep 95 16:25:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14394; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 16:15:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 16:15:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14383; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 16:15:37 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA09617; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 16:14:12 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 16:14:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: "Roger J. Buffington" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Win OS/2 sound on 755Cs/Warp In-Reply-To: <199509031315.GAA04516@chaph.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 3 Sep 1995, Roger J. Buffington wrote: > Has anyone on the list gotten Win/OS2 sounds using a TP 755Cs with > Warp/Windows and the fixpak applied? My Warp setup works great except > that I don't get any system sounds in Windows 3.11. (The OS/2 sounds > work great.) Try ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/mobiles/tpos2snd.exe It worked on my TP750 and an late gamma version of Warp w/ WinOS2. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 3 21:14:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19538; Sun, 3 Sep 95 21:14:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10087; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 20:59:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 20:59:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10076; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 20:59:07 -0400 Received: from slnew1p01.ozemail.com.au (slnew1p01.ozemail.com.au [203.7.178.17]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA12090 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 10:59:00 +1000 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 10:59:00 +1000 Message-Id: <199509040059.KAA12090@oznet02.ozemail.com.au> X-Sender: sturat@ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: sturat@ozemail.com.au (Stuart Allen) Subject: Re: Win95 or OS/2? Hi... Thought I might add.... > >OS/2 runs extremely well in 8BM. Don't know about Win 95; I do know >that my local computer weenies recommend 16MB with Win 95. Yeah, the general recommendation is 16 MB... I run Win95 on a TP360 with 12 MB and it's fine... At home I run it on a DX2-66 with 8 MB and it's _OK_... it churns a bit at times but is quite acceptable... Be careful if you decide to use the DriveSpace compression in Win95. I'd suggest you partition the system separately and *don't* compress the system partition... I did this on my TP to get some extra space (and boy did I get some extra space) but the speed suffered... I'm waiting to get the release version of WIn95, at which time I'll do a full rebuild... it's probably best to completely start from scratch when installing Win95 if possible... rather than installing over 3.11 or whatever... >Win 95 is based on cooperative multitasking, whereas OS/2 Warp uses >discrete (true) multitasking. > Not wanting to be too picky, but Win95 uses both preemptive and cooperative multitasking. Win 3.x used cooperative only. Cooperative mt relies on the application programmers to help keep the system running smoothly... a bad app will hog the system. Preemptive mt puts the operating system in complete control of which apps run when and for how long... so smoother multitasking results... I still think that OS/2 multitasking is the best I've seen on the desktop. On a scale with 3.11 mt at number 1 and OS/2 at number 10 I'd place Win95 at 7. It's pretty good, but an app that is really pounding the disk will be tend to hog the system... Anyway, hope this helped in some small way... Stu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 3 22:22:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22396; Sun, 3 Sep 95 22:22:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17095; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 22:12:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 22:12:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17079; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 22:12:18 -0400 Received: from mailhost.hooked.net (worm.hooked.net [199.2.134.13]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA10714; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 19:09:20 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 19:09:20 -0700 Message-Id: <199509040209.TAA10714@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sturat@ozemail.com.au (Stuart Allen) From: jesse montrose Subject: win95 DriveSpace (was: Win95 or OS/2?) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU At 10:59 AM 9/4/95 +1000, Stuart Allen wrote: >Be careful if you decide to use the DriveSpace compression in Win95. I'd >suggest you partition the system separately and *don't* compress the system >partition... I did this on my TP to get some extra space (and boy did I get >some extra space) but the speed suffered... I'm waiting to get the release >version of WIn95, at which time I'll do a full rebuild... it's probably best >to completely start from scratch when installing Win95 if possible... rather >than installing over 3.11 or whatever... I strongly recommend that anyone using DriveSpace also get the Microsoft Plus Pak. It includes drivespace3, which gives you a lot more control over your compression. It helped my speed a lot, I use standard compression as a default (fast, not much compression), and have a job scheduled to compress files that haven't been used in a week with a much tighter compression. The job runs at night, using the "system agent" (cheesy name, good util) which also comes with the plus pak. ____________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 3 22:44:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24259; Sun, 3 Sep 95 22:44:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20343; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 22:35:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 22:35:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from baijuyi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20033; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 22:33:37 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by baijuyi (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id KAA24549 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 10:31:14 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199509040231.KAA24549@baijuyi> Subject: Re: Great Price on 810mb HD... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 10:31:14 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text hi, anyone know the specs on the new Quantum Europa line of HDs (540M - 1G). The homepage has a PDF file and I don't have anything here to read these "Adobe Acrobat" formatted files. any comments on them? cheers. __________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 4 09:48:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00603; Mon, 4 Sep 95 09:48:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27976; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:34:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:34:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from thud.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27967; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:34:26 -0400 From: Vaidy Sunderam Received: by thud.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id JAA20747; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:34:25 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:34:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199509041334.JAA20747@thud.cs.utk.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Help with Win95 & mwave modem/pcmcia I recently installed Win95 on my 755CD, and most things seem to work (reasonably well), except modem functions. - Trying to use the mwave modem always results in "another application is usingthetelephony function" - My USR Sportster28.8 seems to be recognized by the plug&play stuff etc, but applications fail to connect to it to dial out. The other strange thing is that the W95 taskbar shows a pcmcia card plugged in, but the led on the machine goes out. I've tried both the above with HyperTerminal (term emulator) and with "dial up networking" stuff. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Vaidy Sunderam From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 4 13:54:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20390; Mon, 4 Sep 95 13:54:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26222; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 13:42:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 13:42:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hades.osc.epsilon.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26208; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 13:42:47 -0400 Received: by hades.osc.epsilon.com (4.1/3.1.-Epsilon Data Management) id AA05330; Mon, 4 Sep 95 13:45:42 EDT Received: from kosmos.quantum.epsilon.com(159.127.20.130) by hades.osc.epsilon.com via smap (V1.3) id sma005326; Mon Sep 4 13:45:17 1995 Received: from titan by kosmos.epsilon.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02638; Mon, 4 Sep 95 13:42:06 EDT Received: by titan (4.1) id AA01392; Mon, 4 Sep 95 13:42:06 EDT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 13:42:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chan T. Cao" To: Vaidy Sunderam Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Help with Win95 & mwave modem/pcmcia In-Reply-To: <199509041334.JAA20747@thud.cs.utk.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It's a mwave modem. Did you have the appropriate mwave driver from IBM installed? If not, as far as win95 (or any other OS) is concerned, you don't have a modem. Chan On Mon, 4 Sep 1995, Vaidy Sunderam wrote: > I recently installed Win95 on my 755CD, and most things > seem to work (reasonably well), except modem functions. > > - Trying to use the mwave modem always results in "another > application is usingthetelephony function" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 5 01:23:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06469; Tue, 5 Sep 95 01:23:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15646; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 01:11:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 01:11:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from balder.ssds.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15625; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 01:11:52 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by balder.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) id XAA26935 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 23:11:49 -0600 Received: from denver(134.127.16.1) by balder via smap (V1.3) id sma026931; Mon Sep 4 23:11:41 1995 Received: from sanjose.ssds.com (sanjose.ssds.com [134.127.10.1]) by denver.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) with SMTP id XAA08944 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 23:11:41 -0600 Received: from rem_den29 by sanjose.ssds.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AB15126; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:11:35 -0700 Message-Id: <9509050511.AB15126@sanjose.ssds.com> X-Sender: cds@sanjose.ssds.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 00:07:28 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Chris Swanson Subject: DOOM on TP755CE Greetings, Under win'95, I can get sound running for Heretic, but not for Doom (the doom is an older version - commercial). Since they are the same engine, what do I need to do. Regards, -=Chris / Chris Swanson ____/ ____/ ___ / ____/ Engineer ____ / ____ / /__/ / ____ / 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd #993 _______/ _______/ _______/ _______/ Bloomington, MN 55473 business driven technology solutions. (612) 921-2392 FAX (612) 921-2395 Um Yah Yah! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 5 01:23:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06474; Tue, 5 Sep 95 01:23:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15641; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 01:11:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 01:11:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from balder.ssds.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15624; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 01:11:52 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by balder.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) id XAA26937 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 23:11:49 -0600 Received: from denver(134.127.16.1) by balder via smap (V1.3) id sma026929; Mon Sep 4 23:11:43 1995 Received: from sanjose.ssds.com (sanjose.ssds.com [134.127.10.1]) by denver.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) with SMTP id XAA08936 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 23:11:37 -0600 Received: from freke-sjc.ssds.com (rem_den29) by sanjose.ssds.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15126; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:11:30 -0700 Message-Id: <9509050511.AA15126@sanjose.ssds.com> X-Sender: cds@sanjose.ssds.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 00:07:24 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Chris Swanson Subject: XF86Config for 755CE Greetings, I am looking for an XF86Config for a 755CE running Linux 1.2.13. The only one I could find was for a 750C. I just have the internal LCD. Also, what server do I need to run (the SVGA, etc.). Regards, -=Chris / Chris Swanson ____/ ____/ ___ / ____/ Engineer ____ / ____ / /__/ / ____ / 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd #993 _______/ _______/ _______/ _______/ Bloomington, MN 55473 business driven technology solutions. (612) 921-2392 FAX (612) 921-2395 Um Yah Yah! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 5 04:42:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17108; Tue, 5 Sep 95 04:42:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA09930; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 04:35:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 04:35:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA09900; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 04:35:49 -0400 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id KAA14332 (8.6.12/); Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:35:26 +0200 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:35:26 +0200 Message-Id: <199509050835.KAA14332@asimov.cnam.fr> To: chris.swanson@ssds.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: XF86Config for 755CE re doom go to ftp site ftp.idsoftware.com and get the update pack for your doom to the latest. check your version of doom, say 1.x first. Then get the update >from 1.x to 1.9 (this'll fix your problem) and the upgrade from 1.9 to the ultimate doom, ie. the free 9 new levels !! all the best. edmund. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 5 07:19:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25875; Tue, 5 Sep 95 07:19:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01775; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 07:12:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 07:12:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01764; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 07:12:17 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA00812; Tue, 5 Sep 95 07:12:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 95 07:12:41 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509051112.AA00812@nile.gnat.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755CX Video I am trying to reinstall WARP on a 755CX to run in 600 x 800 mode, but I can't find the video drivers or procedure anywhere in Area 37 of the IBM bulletin board. Anyone know exactly what I need and where I can get it. Thanks. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 5 08:24:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29428; Tue, 5 Sep 95 08:24:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09526; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 08:16:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 08:16:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from iehpc.ihosteng.priv.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09512; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 08:16:06 -0400 Received: (from ivarh@localhost) by iehpc.ihosteng.priv.no (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA19811; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 14:15:36 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 14:15:36 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Ivar E. Hosteng" To: Robert Dewar Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755CX Video In-Reply-To: <9509051112.AA00812@nile.gnat.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If you have ftp accedd the files are on ftp.pcco.ibm.com under the catalog /pub/mobile. Check the file /pub/allfiles.txt for the excact filename. Regards, Ivar E. hosteng email: ivar@ihosten.priv.no On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > > I am trying to reinstall WARP on a 755CX to run in 600 x 800 mode, but I > can't find the video drivers or procedure anywhere in Area 37 of the > IBM bulletin board. Anyone know exactly what I need and where I can get > it. Thanks. > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 5 10:41:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10086; Tue, 5 Sep 95 10:41:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28590; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:31:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:31:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mba.cba.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28576; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:31:20 -0400 Received: (from sean@localhost) by mba.cba.uiuc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA14553 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 08:31:44 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199509051331.IAA14553@mba.cba.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Win95 or OS/2? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 08:31:44 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu In-Reply-To: <9509031303.ZM27617@aaRS.mit.edu> from "Arturo J. Morales" at Sep 3, 95 01:03:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I know that this is probably a stupid question, but can you run Win95 apps > under OS/2? On the same token, can you run NT apps under Win95? How about NT > apps under OS/2??? Not Windows apps that use Win32 will run, but Win32s will run okay. I believe that all the new Win apps that have a Windows-compatible sticker on it will be using Win32 (for easy portability to NT, of course) so probably, no, you cannot run most of the new Win95 apps under OS/2. > Does Win95 run happily with 8megs? Can i get a floppy distribution of Win95? > What CDROMs/PCMCIA-SCSI combinations work with win95? OS/2? Win95 runs okay with 8mb RAM. You can get Win95 on floppies. I don't know about the CD-ROM/PCMCIA SCSI options. > Is this info in the TP75x FAQ? Where is the newest version? Er, no. There still is no newest version. It's much busier working than it was being in school! ;) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 5 15:43:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00126; Tue, 5 Sep 95 15:43:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22486; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:16:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:16:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from purcell.ecn.purdue.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22474; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:16:21 -0400 Received: from purcell.ecn.purdue.edu (liu@localhost) by purcell.ecn.purdue.edu (8.6.12/3.7davy) id NAA11216; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 13:31:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199509051831.NAA11216@purcell.ecn.purdue.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 13:31:35 -0500 From: Jung-tao Liu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Hi, I have a TP750 with DOCKI and I am trying to install linux on the SCSI HD in DOCKI. However, linux doesn't seem to be able to recognize the SCSI contrr. I found some document which indicate that you solved this kind of problem before. Could you kindly tell me how to solve this problem? I will be very appreciated for that. Thanks From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 5 15:43:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00132; Tue, 5 Sep 95 15:43:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22909; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:21:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:21:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22899; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:21:12 -0400 From: Received: from PC1-Message_Server by BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU with WordPerfect_Office; Tue, 05 Sep 1995 15:17:41 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 15:13:28 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: New Specs for IBM ThinkPad 755CV and 755CX Models Additional IBM ThinkPad 755CV and 755CX Models Featuring Pentium Processor and 1.2GB Hard Disk Product Announcement 195-251 Announced on September 5, 1995 In Brief . . . Key Features of the ThinkPad 755CV o Intel** Pentium 75MHz processor o ThinkPad 755CV featuring a choice of 810MB* or 1.2GB* hard disk (ThinkPad 755CX featuring a 1.2GB hard disk as standard) o LCD display subsystem adaptable for overhead presentations o VGA resolution with 64K color support o Standard cooling fan o Infrared DSP o Innovative technology, instant productivity with preinstalled software, and outstanding service and support o OS/2(R) Warp 3.0 with selected BonusPak applications, IBM PC DOS 7, and Windows+ 3.11 preinstalled with SelectaSystem(TM) and a suite of applications Technical Support o ThinkPad EasyServ warranty o International Warranty Service o HelpCenter(R) (800-772-2227) * MB = million bytes and GB = 1000 million bytes when referring to hard files or hard disk drives. ---------------------------------------- New color models of the popular ThinkPad(R) 755 family of notebook computers feature the Pentium** 75MHz processor and a new solution for presentations. An innovative LCD display subsystem highlights the ThinkPad 755CV systems. By removing the cover from the back of the display panel, the panel becomes transparent. By opening the panel to 180 degrees and placing the system on an overhead projector, you can display images just as they appear on your ThinkPad screen -- in over 64,000 colors. The ThinkPad 755CV is equipped with a wireless remote controller that uses the Infrared (IR) capability of the system, and advanced presentation software that helps you generate impressive presentations and navigate through them. For example, with a touch of a button on a remote controller, you can magnify, spotlight, or highlight the screen to emphasize important information. As with other ThinkPad models, the 755CV is a light-weight, battery- or AC-operated computer designed to fit into a briefcase. The ThinkPad 755CV should appeal to business, education, and government professionals who can benefit from a portable system while traveling or at a conference, office, or home. A ThinkPad 755CV system, combined with any one of the four IBM docking solutions, can easily become your primary personal computer, providing an alternative to a desktop system unit. The new model of the ThinkPad 755CX features a 1.2GB hard disk and the Mwave(R) Digital Signal Processor (DSP) as standard. The 755CX has an SVGA Black Matrix TFT display, and gives you 65,536 colors at 800 x 600 resolution. This means more spreadsheet columns on the screen, crisper, sharper display of text and graphics, vibrant color for presentations, and easier viewing of complex images, such as CAD drawings, schematics, and maps. Note: Refer to Hardware Announcement 195-131, dated May 9, 1995, for the preinstalled software, technical information, and other details about the ThinkPad 755CX models that have the DSP as standard. Single Unit Price Range: $5,699 to $6,399 Availability Date: September 5, 1995 (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation ** Company, product, or service name may be a trademark or service mark of others. + Trademark of Microsoft Corporation (TM) Trademark of International Business Machines Corporation DESCRIPTION ThinkPad 755CV at a Glance These new additions to the ThinkPad 755 family, through the integration of the following functions, provide function and performance unmatched anywhere in the industry. o Intel** Pentium 75MHz processor o Hard disk: Choice of 810MB or 1.2GB (755CV); 1.2GB (755CX) o Large memory capacity (8MB to 40MB using DIMM memory modules and the Memory Module Adapter) o NiMH battery pack (optional Li-Ion battery pack) o Local bus video with acceleration o Mwave(R) DSP subsystem o 14.4K data/fax modem o Built-in microphone and speaker o Dial volume control o Infrared (IR) transceivers on front and back o TrackPoint III o Full complement of ports for peripheral connections o 240-pin docking connector o Removable 1.44MB floppy diskette drive o Type III PCMCIA slot o Large 10.4-inch (maximum viewable area when measured diagonally) active matrix displays - 640 x 480 resolution VGA o Preinstalled software -- operating systems and applications: - OS/2 Warp 3.0 with selected BonusPak applications - IBM PC DOS 7 and Windows 3.11 preinstalled with SelectaSystem, allowing you to select the operating system of your choice - A suite of applications preinstalled o Compatibility with 755CE, 755CSE, and 755CD ThinkPad systems and IBM docking options o On-screen electronic personalization ThinkPad 755CX -- Additional Information: Refer to Hardware Announcement 195-131, dated May 9, 1995, for the preinstalled software, technical information, and other information about the ThinkPad 755CX models that have the DSP standard. New IBM ThinkPad 755CV Models -- Features and Characteristics The ThinkPad 755CV with a Pentium processor is a new addition to the IBM ThinkPad family offering advanced function. LCD Displays: These models have the 10.4-inch (maximum viewable area when measured diagonally) Thin Film Transistor (TFT) display with VGA resolution. These are bright active matrix displays. The TFT display provides superior viewing capability and lessens the glare indoors. The 755CV features the new LCD technology providing data projection capability. By removing the LCD cover and putting the computer on an overhead projector, information on the LCD screen is projected on a larger screen. When the LCD cover is installed, this LCD serves as a regular IBM 10.4-inch (maximum viewable area when measured diagonally) TFT screen. With the appropriate display driver installed, up to 65,536 simultaneous colors can be displayed. Depending on work surface area of the overhead projector and projection-table design, it may be difficult to put the 755CV on the overhead projector so that information is projected right-side-up. It is possible to rotate information on the LCD screen by using a video driver setup. Information can be projected right-side-up by rotating the information 180 degrees on the LCD, and putting the ThinkPad on the overhead projector on the side with more space on it. This rotate function is supported for Windows. OS/2 Warp Version 3 support for a rotate video driver is available through the IBM Personal Computer Company Bulletin Board Service (PCC BBS). Cooling Fan: Now a standard feature, the fan provides more cooling if the ThinkPad 755CV is going to be used on overhead projectors that have bulbs greater than 400 watts or 3,000 lumens. Processor: At the heart of these systems is the Pentium 75MHz microprocessor with an internal cache and floating-point processor, providing exceptional performance. Memory: These new models of the ThinkPad 755CV are designed to use non-parity memory. The systems come standard with 8MB RAM, upgradeable to a total of 40MB using DIMM memory modules with the Memory Module Adapter. The system memory is 24MB when using most IC DRAM cards. Larger than 16MB IC DRAM cards may be available from ThinkPad Proven(TM) vendors. This high-capacity and fast memory (70ns) can handle almost any application the mobile professional may have to execute. PCMCIA: The Type III slot can accommodate either two Type I or Type II, or one Type III PC card. If additional PCMCIA cards are required, the optional ThinkPad PCMCIA cartridge may be placed in the ThinkPad 755CV ThinkPad UltraBay providing an additional Type III slot. The ThinkPad UltraBay not only can accommodate this option, but it can also house the optional 2.88MB FDD, or CDPD module. IBM PC Card Director software is preinstalled and provides support for the latest PCMCIA standard, 2.1. This software enables many PCMCIA cards, allowing the user to simply plug in the card. PC Card Director with Auto Configurator and Memory Device Driver: PC Card Director helps you get status and other information on PCMCIA cards installed in the system. In addition, on OS/2 and on Microsoft** Windows, PC Card Director can register an application program for PCMCIA cards and execute them automatically. Auto Configurator and Memory Device Driver enable supported PCMCIA cards by sensing them automatically. PCMCIA cards supported by Auto Configurator and Memory Device Driver are listed in the Compatibility and Supported Products section. Keyboard and TrackPoint III: The keyboard has the familiar ThinkPad layout with function key capability, allowing you to quickly access system functions, like power management control. The keyboard lifts up to allow access to the FDD bay, memory socket, HDD bay, and battery for quick upgrades or battery changes. The TrackPoint III is an enhanced TrackPoint II(TM) with improved non-slip TrackPoint cap and more accurate pointing capability through improved software. The "drag and drop" function of the click buttons is enhanced. You can lock and hold the buttons in without having to keep pushing on them. Storage: The hard drives are customer-installable and come in capacities of 810MB or 1.2GB. They are easily removed by lifting up the keyboard. You can have multiple "systems" by installing a different hard drive. Systems can also be shared by users who have their own hard drive but no ThinkPad system unit. A 1.44MB FDD drive comes standard. The ThinkPad UltraBay, also standard with the system, is an intelligent bay that switches its pinout signals to allow the installation of an FDD or PCMCIA cartridge in what would normally be just the floppy diskette drive bay. IBM Mwave Digital Signal Processor (DSP): The Mwave MDSP2780 operates at up to 60 million operations per second for integrating audio, games, music, data/fax modem, and telephony into a DSP. Features and benefits include: o 44.1KHz MPC-2 16-bit audio with real-time compression o Simultaneous audio play and record o Digital audio mixing with up to eight open .WAV sources o General MIDI-compatible, 32-voice wavetable synthesizer o Sound Blaster** (Creative Labs, Inc.) support o 14.4 Kbps data/fax modem o Full-featured telephone - Answering machine with variable speed message playback and voice compression - Hands-free, full-duplex speakerphone This feature set can be enhanced simply by upgrading the DSP software. Audio: The audio capability on the system board (DSP) and the integrated microphone allow voice annotation and audio capability. The systems are equipped with audio in/out jacks for stereo speakers/headphone and external microphone. A separate dial volume control is located to the rear of the keyboard on the system. (Refer to the IBM Mwave Digital Signal Processor section for more information on audio capability.) Video: The systems have the VESA local bus support with video acceleration providing exceptional video performance. Infrared (IR): The use of IR is greatly enhanced by the incorporation of Mind Path** Presentation F/X** Pro software on all models and the inclusion of the IR Mind Path Remote Control with the 755CV. During presentations, this combination of Mind Path products on the 755CV allows the system to be controlled remotely through the use of the wireless IR capability. It also enables the use of effects such as magnify, spotlight, and telestrator to be added to the screen during presentations. The system has IR transceivers in front and back for wireless file and data transfer. The ThinkPad 755CV is designed for compliance with the IrDA (Infrared Data Association) IR data link specification Version 1.0. The system supports three modes of operation: o IBM mode (from 57.6 Kbps to 1.15 Mbps) o HP** mode (from 9600 bps to 115 Kbps) o Sharp** mode (9600 bps) Preinstalled software provides wireless file transfer, file synchronization, and clip board data transfer. With the infrared feature, data can be exchanged with the following systems by using the following vendor software packages: System Software Omnibook 300** LapLink Remote Access** HP 100LX** Connectivity Pack for the HP 100LX** Sharp Wizard** PC Interface Software, 9000 Link for PCs OZ-990(W)** When using the infrared feature to communicate with these systems, the communications distance may be shorter than when communicating with another ThinkPad 755CV, 755CE, 755CSE, or 755CD, depending on the capabilities of the other systems. The ThinkPad 755CV is shipped with the IR Mind Path Model 55 Wireless Remote Controller Kit and Presentation F/X Pro software. The remote mouse controller communicates with ThinkPad native IR ports (115 Kbps modulation). The remote controller has mouse disk and click buttons to provide full mouse-compatible movement and clicking operation. Special buttons of the remote controller are useful to perform special effects -- highlight, magnify, spotlight -- on projected presentation. Special effects are performed by Presentation F/X Pro software preinstalled on the hard disk drive. It is possible to change the selection of effects and characteristics by using the setup screen of the Presentation F/X Pro software. At the time of shipment, mouse function is supported for DOS, Windows, and OS/2. Special effects by the Presentation F/X Pro are supported for Windows. Presentation F/X Pro upgrade to the OS/2 is presented by Mind Path Technologies in Dallas, Texas. For more details, call 214-233-9296 for customer support sponsored by Mind Path Technologies. Warranty service for the Mind Path Remote Controller is provided by Mind Path Technologies and the controller is a customer-direct return item. Refer to the information included in the 755CV shipping carton or contact Mind Path Technologies at the above number. Other Features: The use of system memory by BIOS is significantly reduced. BIOS uses 96KB of system memory (video, 32KB -- all other, 64KB). The system has the full complement of ports (enhanced parallel port, SVGA, pointer-keyboard, serial). In addition, a 240-pin connector that supports the four IBM docking solutions: o Dock I -- portable docking with a slot and bay o Dock II -- desktop docking with slots, bays, and PCMCIA slots o Port Replicator I -- cable manager with a Type III PCMCIA slot o Port Replicator II -- cable manager only An RJ11 jack is also included because the DSP provides data/fax modem capability with speeds up to 14.4Kbps. The ThinkPad 755CV systems, combined with any one of the four IBM docking solutions, can easily become your primary personal computer, providing an alternative to a desktop system unit. Even without the docking solution, the ThinkPad 755CV easily serves as a primary system with its large color display, high-capacity hard disk, large RAM capability, local bus video, high-performance microprocessor, and two Type II or one Type III PCMCIA slots. Host connectivity is attained with PCMCIA PC cards. Options for ThinkPad 755CV The new ThinkPad 755CV models support most of the options that were announced with the ThinkPad 755CE/CSE/CD. PRODUCT POSITIONING The new ThinkPad 755CV systems are positioned as one of the highest full-function notebook computers in IBM's family of mobile portable systems. PUBLICATIONS The IBM ThinkPad 755CV User's Guide is shipped with each system. The following publications and diskettes are available for separate purchase. To order, call the IBM Software Manufacturing Solution Hotline at 800-879-2755. Order Part Publication Number Number IBM ThinkPad Technical Reference 755CX/CV S19H-1158 30H1652 IBM ThinkPad 755CV User's Guide S30H-1653 30H1653 IBM ThinkPad 755CV Diskettes S30H-1654 30H1654 - Utility - PCMCIA Features - Video Features - Infrared Features IBM ThinkPad 755 Mwave DSP Diskette S30H-1734 30H1734 - Mwave DSP Features IBM ThinkPad Maintenance Diskette S82G-3891 82G3891 The Technical Reference is for programmers, engineers, and others who want to understand the ThinkPad 755CV system unit in greater detail. The publication includes functional specifications, hardware specifications, and pinouts for peripheral connectors. Service Publications (Manuals and Diskettes) Order Part Publication Number Number Hardware Maintenance Manual Volume 2: ThinkPad Computers S82G-1502 30H2357 Hardware Maintenance Diskette S82G-3891 82G3891 The Hardware Maintenance Manual contains service and reference information for IBM ThinkPad computers. The service section includes procedures for isolating problems to a field replaceable unit (FRU), related service procedures, and an illustrated parts catalog. The reference section includes safety information, product description, and general information about system functions. Publications may be ordered from an IBM Authorized Dealer, an IBM representative, or through the Technical Directory. A complete listing of IBM ThinkPad and IBM Personal Computer hardware publications is available by calling the Technical Directory at 800-IBM-PCTB (426-7282). TECHNICAL INFORMATION Specified Operating Environment ThinkPad 755CV: The NiMH battery is shipped as standard with these models. Approximate operation hours and charging hours are: Function Hours Power off/suspend charging 1.2 Charging during operation 1.7 Travel Quick Charger 2.0 to 3.0 Battery operation (range)(1) 2.0 to 3.0 Optional Feature Battery Pack: The Li-Ion battery approximate operation hours and charging hours are: Function Hours Power off/suspend charging 1.5 to 2.02 Charging during operation 2.0 to 2.5 Travel Quick Charger 2.0 to 3.0 Battery operation (range)(1) 3.2 to 10.0 (1) The actual range may vary based on power management, applications used, frequency of keystrokes, options used, or system configuration. Physical Specifications Approximate(2) Dimensions/Weight o Width: 297.0 mm (11.70 in) o Depth: 210.0 mm (8.30 in) o Height: 49.8 mm (1.96 in) o Weight: 3.0 kg (6.6 lb) with battery pack and diskette drive o Li-Ion battery pack: 400 g (0.88 lb) o NiMH battery pack: 540 g (1.19 lb) o FDD: 213 g (0.47 lb) (2) Actual specifications may vary based on features, vendor components, or manufacturing process. Electrical Specifications o Universal AC adapter: 100 to 240 V AC, 2.0 A, 50/60Hz o NiMH battery pack: 8.4 V, 3.5 AH, 1800 mAH/cell, 14-cell/pack Heat Dissipation o 136 Btu/hr maximum Air Temperature for Shipping and Storage o -20(degs) to 60(degs)C (-4(degs) to 140(degs)F) Relative Humidity for Shipping and Storage o 5% to 95% Acoustic Noise Level: Class 3D (office environment) o Sound pressure level (operator position): 40 dB (operating) o Sound power level: 5.1 Bels (operating); 4.8 Bels (idling) Note: The noise emission level stated is the declared (upper limit) sound power level, in Bels, for a random sample of machines, typically configured, and operating in idle mode; for example, powered on, but no DASD read/write or other I/O activity. All measurements are made in accordance with ANSI S12.10, and reported in conformance with ISO 9296. Operating Environment Air Temperature: 0 to 8,000 ft o Operating: 5(degs) to 35(degs)C (41(degs) to 95(degs)F) (without diskette) o Operating: 10(degs) to 35(degs)C (50(degs) to 95(degs)F) (with diskette inside unit) o System off: 5(degs) to 43(degs)C (41(degs) to 110(degs)F) o Storage/shipment: -20(degs) to 60(degs)C (-4(degs) to 140(degs)F) o Wet bulb (maximum): 29.4(degs)C (85(degs)F) Air Temperature: 8,000 to 10,000 ft o Operating: 5(degs) to 31.3(degs)C (41(degs) to 88(degs)F) (without diskette) o Operating: 10(degs) to 31.3(degs)C (50(degs) to 88(degs)F) (with diskette inside unit) o System off: 5(degs) to 43(degs)C (41(degs) to 110(degs)F) o Storage/shipment: -20(degs) to 60(degs)C (-4(degs) to 140(degs)F) o Wet bulb (maximum): 25.7(degs)C (78(degs)F) Note: The maximum temperature with system on is linearly decreased >from 8,000 feet to 10,000 feet. The ambient temperature when using the 755CV on an overhead projector should be within the following range: Ambient temperature: 0 to 8,000 ft o Without diskette operation: 5(degs) to 30(degs)C (41(degs) to 86(degs)F) o With diskette operation: 10(degs) to 30(degs)C (50(degs) to 86(degs)F) Ambient temperature: 8,000 to 10,000 ft o Without diskette operation: 5(degs) to 26.3(degs)C (41(degs) to 79(degs)F) o With diskette operation: 10(degs) to 26.3(degs)C (50(degs) to 79(degs)F) Relative Humidity o Operating: 8% to 95% (without diskette) o Operating: 8% to 80% (with diskette inside unit) o Storage/shipment: 5% to 95% Altitude o 10,000 ft maximum (3,048 meters) Agency Approvals o System Unit Approvals - FCC Class-B Certified to comply with FCC Rules, Part 15 FCC ID is ANO85G169 (755CV) - VCCI CLASS 2 (0 db) - CISPR22B - UL-1950 - CSA C22.2 No. 950 - SEMKO - NEMKO - DEMKO - SETI - UK-PTT - JATE - SASO o AC/DC Adapter Approvals - UL-1950 - CSA-C22.2 No. 223 - SEMKO - NEMKO - DEMKO - SETI - SA - SEV - OVE - DENTORI - NOM Software Requirements: The following operating systems support the new ThinkPad 755CV systems. Refer to the Limitations section for support issues unique to each operating system. o IBM PC DOS 7, IBM PC DOS J7.0V o IBM PC DOS J6.3/V o IBM OS/2 Warp, Version 3 o IBM OS/2 Warp, Japanese Version 3.0 o IBM OS/2 2.11 o MS-DOS** 6.22 o Microsoft Windows 95 supported (as tested by an independent laboratory) o Microsoft Windows 3.11/J3.1 o Microsoft Windows for Workgroups 3.11 Systems software supported: o IBM OS/2 LAN Server Entry Version 4.0(3) o IBM OS/2 LAN Server Advanced Version 4.0(3) o IBM Communications Manager/2 Version 1.1 o IBM Database 2(TM) OS/2 Version 1.0 (3) Client function portion only was tested. Compatibility and Supported Products Refer to the 9545 Sales Manual pages, or contact your IBM representative, for a complete list of supported features and options and compatible IBM and vendor software. The Sales Manual is updated periodically. The ThinkPad 755CV systems are designed to be compatible with the PS/2(R). The ThinkPad 755CV systems contain BIOS/Easy Setup/Diagnostics in their Flash ROM and also provide a graphical user interface to set up the system and power management features for OS/2 and Windows users. BIOS provides the hardware instructions and interfaces designed to support the standard features of the ThinkPad 755CV systems and to maintain compatibility with many software programs currently operating under DOS and OS/2 on the Personal Computer XT(TM), Personal Computer AT(R), and the PS/2 family. Devices Supported -- PCMCIA: ThinkPad 755CV systems conform to the PCMCIA PC Card Standard Release 2.01 and the PCMCIA Card and Socket Services Specification Release 2.1, dated July 1993. Other PCMCIA adapters that comply with the PCMCIA PC Card Standard Specification Release 2.01 may also function, but have not been tested by IBM. Feature Part Description Number Number IBM 3270 Emulation Credit Card Adapter 2812 0933315 IBM Token-Ring 16/4 Credit Card Adapter II 8072 0933931 IBM Token-Ring 16/4 Credit Card Adapter III IBM Ethernet Credit Card Adapter II for 10BaseT 3290 0934331 IBM Ethernet Credit Card Adapter II for 10Base2 3280 0934330 IBM 5250 Emulation PCMCIA Adapter 2808 92F3808 IBM 2.4/9.6 Data/Fax Modem Multipack 87G8988 IBM 14.4/14.4 Data/Fax Modem Multipack 87G8989 IBM RS-232 PCMCIA Serial Card 87G9250 IBM Infrared (IR) Wireless Adapter Tethered Transceiver 87G9740 IBM Infrared (IR) Wireless Adapter Integrated Transceiver 87G9743 IBM Mass Storage Card 5MB 70G7344 IBM Mass Storage Card 10MB 70G7345 IBM Mass Storage Card 15MB 70G7346 IBM 1MB SRAM PCMCIA Memory Card 92G7229 Feature Part Description Number Number IBM 2MB SRAM PCMCIA Memory Card 92G7230 IBM Solid State File Card 5MB 40G3166 IBM Solid State File Card 10MB 40G3167 IBM Solid State File Card 20MB 40G3168 IBM Solid State File Card 30MB 40G3169 IBM Solid State File Card 40MB 40G3170 IBM 40MB PCMCIA Hard Disk Drive (Type III) 7559 70G8495 IBM 105MB PCMCIA Hard Disk Drive (Type III) 1901 32G4199 Limitations o The 180-degree rotation function of the video device driver is for 256-color and 640 x 480 resolution only. o DOS programs are not supported by the 180-degree rotation video driver. The 180-degree rotation video driver support is only available when using applications under OS/2 Warp Version 3.0 or Windows 3.11. The 180-degree rotation driver for OS/2 Warp (with or without WIN-OS/2(TM)) will be provided through the IBM Personal Computer Company Bulletin Board Service (PCC BBS) by calling 919-517-0001. o The OS/2 version of Mind Path Presentation F/X Pro can be obtained by calling Mind Path Technologies, Inc., at 800-736-6830, or the PCC BBS at 919-517-0001. o Either the Mind Path IR remote controller device driver or the IBM IR device driver can be enabled at any time in the Windows SYSTEM.INI file. It is necessary to disable the Mind Path IR remote controller device driver when the ThinkPad IR port, or an application that uses the COM1 port for data transmittal is used, as this port is used by the Mind Path Remote Controller. In the Infrared panel of the Mind Path Presentation F/X Pro setup program, click the "off" button in the Infrared box to disable the IR remote controller and enable the IBM IR driver. To use the remote controller, click on the ThinkPad Internal button. o If the ThinkPad enters suspend mode while a video is playing, when using Video for Windows and Presentation F/X Pro and the Mind Path Remote Controller, the ThinkPad may not resume properly. Close the Presentation F/X Pro software prior to suspending the system, if a video is playing. o Some optional features or applications may use the COM1 port. OS/2 Warp Version 3 will not load COM.SYS if the COM1 port is already in use. Only one such feature or application that uses the COM1 (for example, communications or PCMCIA) can be used at a time. For example, the Mind Path IR Remote Controller uses the COM1 port and this controller must be disabled to use another application that also uses COM1. o Some special effects of the Presentation F/X program are not effective during motion pictures and digital video playback that frequently access the video buffer. o A wavy pattern may appear in the LCD and/or projected information if the lamp circuit noise of certain overhead projectors interferes with the 755CV LCD display. If this occurs, use an alternative overhead projector. o Do not use the 755CV on an overhead projector that is specifically designed for very large magnification using an extremely bright light source (greater than 575 watt bulb or 6,000 lumens). The high temperature may cause hardware problems. Do not use overhead projectors with greater than 3,000 lumens, or a light source greater than a 400 watt lamp without using the cooling fan. (Refer to the Using the ThinkPad 755CV with an Overhead Projector section.) o The WARP fixpak XR0W005 is required for audio, modem, and printer support if OS/2 Warp Version 3 needs to be reinstalled. o Fixpak XR_A087 is required for audio, data fax modem, and telephony functions under OS/2 2.11. Call 800-992-4777 to get these APAR fixes. o The 65,536 color driver is available in OS/2 Warp Version 3.0. The 65,536 color display driver for OS/2 2.11 or OS/2 for Windows can be obtained from the IBM OS/2 Bulletin Board. o Installation of the software update named WIN311.ZIP is required to use a WIN-OS/2 session when OS/2 for Windows is used under Windows 3.11. WIN311.ZIP is currently available on the PCC BBS by calling 919-517-0001. The PCC BBS is available 24 hours a day on a toll-call basis with no access charge to the bulletin board. o When using the redirector feature of the Connectivity Pack for the HP 100LX to exchange data over an infrared link at 115 Kbps, the ThinkPad 755CV should be configured as the requestor. o Telephony and answering machine functions do not support PBX. o Video performance will be reduced when operating under the 64K color mode. o The Mwave MDSP2780 (DSP) does not support cellular phone connection. o The system cannot enter the suspend/hibernation mode when the Sound Blaster emulation mode is enabled in a DOS environment. o The IBM Enhanced Mouse (92G7457) cannot be used with TrackPoint III. When using the IBM Enhanced Mouse, TrackPoint III should be disabled. o Continuous use of the HDD drive, such as reading long video files, will impact battery life. o The fifth PCMCIA slot cannot be identified by the IBM PC Card Director memory device driver when installing the IBM ThinkPad PCMCIA cartridge in the FDD bay of the system unit when the IBM ThinkPad Port Replicator I or ThinkPad Dock II is attached. o The ThinkPad 755CV systems have one memory slot per system. - By using 2MB, 4MB, 8MB, or 16MB IC DRAM optional feature cards, up to 24MB of system memory is possible. Larger than 16MB IC DRAM cards may be available from ThinkPad Proven vendors and can be used. - By using the DIMM technology, the IBM Memory Module Adapter and the 4MB, 8MB, or 16MB memory modules, up to 40MB of system memory is possible. o As the audio and communication features share the hardware resource of Mwave DSP, their concurrent usage has some restrictions. For example, when you are using any of the communication features, you cannot use the MIDI audio capability. o The system is designed so that you can install or remove the PCMCIA card without turning off the system, if the PCMCIA card supports this function. Refer to the instructions that come with the PCMCIA card. o When installing two Type II PCMCIA communications cards in the PCMCIA slot, there may be some cable interference that allows only one card to be used. o PC Card point enablers may write directly to the hardware, bypassing Socket and Card Services Release 2.1. Writing directly to the hardware may cause problems that cannot be anticipated. Also, point enablers may interfere with client device drivers th From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 5 19:49:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20642; Tue, 5 Sep 95 19:49:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14998; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:39:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:39:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14987; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:39:40 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA18879; Tue, 5 Sep 95 19:40:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 95 19:40:07 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509052340.AA18879@nile.gnat.com> To: CAHILLRE@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: New Specs for IBM ThinkPad 755CV and 755CX Models disappointing that this latest announcement does not include the 28.8 DSP modem ... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 5 22:37:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00287; Tue, 5 Sep 95 22:37:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25254; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 22:23:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 22:23:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from thud.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25243; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 22:23:22 -0400 From: Vaidy Sunderam Received: by thud.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id WAA00661; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 22:23:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 22:23:21 -0400 Message-Id: <199509060223.WAA00661@thud.cs.utk.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Mwave modem problems Hi, I'm looking for help or advice ... my tp755cd mwave modem behaves intermittently weirdly ... I've got the latest drivers and have installed both patches .. The problem is with term or similar; about a third of the time it works fine. The rest of the time, atdt results in **an audible dial tone via the speaker** but the command always comes back with "no dial tone" Any pointers would be appreciated .. Vaidy Sunderam From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 5 23:32:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08168; Tue, 5 Sep 95 23:32:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29178; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 23:20:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 23:20:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom15.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29163; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 23:20:41 -0400 Received: by netcom15.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id UAA16660; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:17:51 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:17:51 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199509060317.UAA16660@netcom15.netcom.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: thinkpad price cuts? Anyone know about Thinkpad price cuts announced today? I wasn't able to find a Tuesday NY Times in the benighted suburb I live in. What's a current good price for a 755CE? What about a 755CX? Thanks. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 6 12:26:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00460; Wed, 6 Sep 95 12:26:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28682; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:06:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:06:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gatekeeper.nsc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28671; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:06:27 -0400 Received: from nsc.nsc.com by gatekeeper.nsc.com (5.65/fma-120691) with SMTP; id AA28688 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 6 Sep 95 09:06:17 -0700 Received: from berlioz.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA21184 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 6 Sep 95 09:06:15 -0700 Received: from arpa.nsc.com by berlioz.nsc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15993; Wed, 6 Sep 95 09:01:36 PDT Date: Wed, 6 Sep 95 09:01:36 PDT From: skip@berlioz.nsc.com (Skip Smith) Message-Id: <9509061601.AA15993@berlioz.nsc.com> Received: by arpa.nsc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28781; Wed, 6 Sep 95 08:56:43 PDT To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Win95 or NT? Hi, I have a TP755CE and am considering moving from Win3.11 to much overhyped Win95 or possibly NT. I see support from IBM for Win95 but little if any acknowledgement of NT. I'd like to run NT as a development environment, but don't want to sacrifice a lot of the features of my thinkpad. Does anyone have any experience running NT on a pad? Is there PCMCIA and Docking Station support? Does Power Management work? Is there MWAVE Modem and Sound support? What are the gotchas? My apologies if this is in a FAQ somewhere; any advice is appreciated. Regards, Skip Smith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 6 15:35:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19546; Wed, 6 Sep 95 15:35:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14699; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:20:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:20:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from upsmot02.msn.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14683; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:20:33 -0400 Received: by upsmot02.msn.com id AA18078; Wed, 6 Sep 95 10:58:58 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 95 18:08:41 UT From: "Ronald Shaw" Message-Id: To: "Skip Smith" , "tp750@CS.UTK.EDU"@msn.com Subject: RE: Win95 or NT? I have a tp755, 12Meg. One disk(540 with NT, another (810) with Win95. Both work fine, except with 12Meg NT is very slow. I mainly use my pad for writting Visual C++ programs. A program that compiles in 45 secs under Win95 takes 1min 30 under NT. Unless your have 24Meg or better I would recommend Win95, even then I suspect Win95 would be faster. Dock1, CD-ROM drive, PCMICA modem all work fine with both Ron_Shaw@msn.com ---------- From: Skip Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 1995 12:01 PM To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Win95 or NT? Hi, I have a TP755CE and am considering moving from Win3.11 to much overhyped Win95 or possibly NT. I see support from IBM for Win95 but little if any acknowledgement of NT. I'd like to run NT as a development environment, but don't want to sacrifice a lot of the features of my thinkpad. Does anyone have any experience running NT on a pad? Is there PCMCIA and Docking Station support? Does Power Management work? Is there MWAVE Modem and Sound support? What are the gotchas? My apologies if this is in a FAQ somewhere; any advice is appreciated. Regards, Skip Smith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 6 22:59:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23857; Wed, 6 Sep 95 22:59:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18169; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 22:46:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 22:46:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18159; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 22:46:19 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id CAA33731 for >; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 02:46:16 GMT Message-Id: <199509070246.CAA33731@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip36-193.il.us.ibm.net(129.37.36.193) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaW74Dmb; Thu Sep 7 02:46:10 1995 X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) From: Stephen Hosmer To: Thinkpad Thinkpad Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 19:48:11 EST Reply-To: hosmer@ibm.net Subject: Re: Warp Connect and THinkpads ** Reply to note from Kris Williams 08/17/95 10:27am EST > I switched to Post Road Mailer which is outstanding The very best in OS/2 mailers is PMMail. It works exceptionaly well, and will be out with a new release soon that will make it irresistable. ____________________________________________ Stephen Hosmer CFO Royale Energy Inc hosmer@ibm.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 7 07:47:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25051; Thu, 7 Sep 95 07:47:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26110; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 07:33:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 07:33:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mwunix.mitre.org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26099; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 07:33:27 -0400 Received: from cyclone.mitre.org (cyclone.mitre.org [128.29.86.13]) by mwunix.mitre.org (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id HAA27331 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 07:33:26 -0400 Received: from dhite-pc.mitre.org by cyclone.mitre.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22546; Thu, 7 Sep 95 07:33:36 EDT Message-Id: <9509071133.AA22546@cyclone.mitre.org> X-Sender: dhite@cyclone X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 07:32:42 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: David Hite Subject: Bios Version Does anybody know how to determine the BIOS version number that's installed on a 755CX? How about the version number of MWave? David From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 7 11:19:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09443; Thu, 7 Sep 95 11:19:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15170; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 11:03:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 11:03:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ada.cs.fsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15160; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 11:03:40 -0400 Received: by ada.cs.fsu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA02388; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:04:49 GMT Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:04:49 GMT From: Ted Baker Message-Id: <199509071504.PAA02388@ada.cs.fsu.edu> To: dhite@mitre.org, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Bios Version If you hold down the F1 key while you power up the 755CX, you will get a configuration menu. Choose "Configure", and then "System". You will get a display showing the BIOS part number and date. It will also show the power management and setup version, as well as some other info. --Ted Baker From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 7 18:22:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14175; Thu, 7 Sep 95 18:22:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20532; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:05:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:05:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.ucsd.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20518; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:05:46 -0400 Received: from conic.UUCP by mail.ucsd.edu; id PAA06833 sendmail 8.6.12/UCSD-2.2-sun via UUCP Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:05:37 -0700 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <199509072205.PAA06833@mail.ucsd.edu> Received: from engineering/tomf by conic.loral.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.31 93.10.18) id 1541 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 12:04:50 PST 8 PDT From: TOMF@conic.loral.com (Tom Franklin Tom Franklin) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 12:04:47 +0000 Subject: TP Error Codes Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Organization: Loral Conic/Terracom, San Diego, CA 92123 (619) 279-0411 Does anyone know where I can get an exhaustive list of error codes. Recently I have gotten errors 201 and 301. The manual that comes with the TP755 isn't very helpful. Perhaps there is a file on the PCCO FTP site? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 7 19:20:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17592; Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:20:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24229; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:10:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:10:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom14.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24200; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:10:00 -0400 Received: by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA25542; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:53:09 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:53:09 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199509072253.PAA25542@netcom14.netcom.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755CX questions There's just been a big price drop on Thinkpad stuff; the 755CE is discontinued but I found a (sleazy sounding) NY dealer selling 8/540 units for $2999! The 755CX 8/540 with Li battery, SVGA, and DSP is $4849 from IBM direct and $4655 by mail order. I had thought a 755CX was too rich for my blood; it really still is, but I'm seriously tempted! A couple questions: 1) Do they manage to make regular text mode fill the whole screen? 2) What about standard VGA? 3) Is there a Linux X server that uses the 800x600 mode? 4) Any idea how expensive NiMH batteries are (does it use the same packs as other 755's?) Spare Li packs are $308, which is scary! 5) Of course it is axiomatic that laptops get better and cheaper very rapidly; but I'm wondering, what is on the horizon that can make the 755cx obsolete? The 760 will be faster and have a bigger display, but does anyone know if the display will be higher resolution? Any idea what other models are coming in the next few months? I plan to buy my next machine by 12/31 for sure, for tax reasons; but would prefer to buy now if I can get rid of my present machine (Samsung Sens 700, dx4/75 12/540 dual scan, asking around $2k, anyone want it?). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 7 19:39:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18536; Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:39:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25377; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:32:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:32:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25366; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:32:11 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA21440; Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:32:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:32:27 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509072332.AA21440@nile.gnat.com> To: phr@netcom.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755CX questions be careful, not all 755CX's have 800 x 600. The low end model is 640 x 480, and has other limitations which i can't remember. I would guess you are asking too much for the Samsung, being realistic ... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 7 20:14:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21713; Thu, 7 Sep 95 20:14:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26984; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 20:04:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 20:04:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom5.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26973; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 20:04:49 -0400 Received: by netcom5.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA24399; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:01:55 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:01:55 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199509080001.RAA24399@netcom5.netcom.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755CX screen diagnostic? Thanks for the mention of the 640x480 755CX. IBM Direct did mention that unit (it is $4199 and also has no DSP and has a NiMH battery instead of Li) but the $4655 unit definitely has 800x600. I'm wondering if the 800x600 755CX comes with any kind of diagnostic that tests R, G, and B on all 800x600 pixels. Do those of you with these screens have (m)any bad pixels? Do they bother you much? If there's no built-in diagnostic, anyone know where I can find one elsewhere? Thanks much. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 7 20:41:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23997; Thu, 7 Sep 95 20:41:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29180; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 20:34:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 20:34:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29169; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 20:34:02 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA21695; Thu, 7 Sep 95 20:34:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 95 20:34:10 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509080034.AA21695@nile.gnat.com> To: phr@netcom.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755CX screen diagnostic? I have zero bad pixels on my 755CX. The most bad pixels I have had on any TP (700C, 720C, 750C, 755C, 755CD, 755CX) is one (on two of them, the other four were perfect). It is easy to test, you don't need a diagnostic program, just get a DOS window, paint it a solid color, using prompt, and move it around the screen looking for bad pixels, they are easy to spot. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 7 22:13:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00168; Thu, 7 Sep 95 22:13:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05080; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 22:01:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 22:01:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom12.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05068; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 22:01:19 -0400 Received: by netcom12.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id SAA09093; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:58:27 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:58:27 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199509080158.SAA09093@netcom12.netcom.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: great deal on TP disks (if it's true) Kahlon Inc. (a Klingon-owned firm?) in Yorba Linda (home of the Nixon Library, hmmm...) advertises IBM Thinkpad hard drives "with removable case and installation instructions", for $165/395/495/705/695 for 170, 340, 540, 720, and 810 meg respectively. The last is probably a typo since the 810 is not likely to cost less than the 720. Anyone know more about this? It sounds too good to be true. The ad is on p. 491 of the September Computer Shopper. I will give them a call tomorrow, I guess. It's possible that the stuff is refurb, but at $165 for the 170 meg drive, it is worth it for the removable caddy all by itself (to install another drive in). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 8 01:07:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12431; Fri, 8 Sep 95 01:07:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16048; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 00:51:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 00:51:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16038; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 00:51:49 -0400 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HV0JEOPRXC0011SF@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 00:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 00:51:34 -0400 (EDT) From: billy@mix.com Subject: Re: TP Error Codes In-Reply-To: <199509072205.PAA06833@mail.ucsd.edu> Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: TOMF@conic.loral.com, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <810535894.84053.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: > Does anyone know where I can get an exhaustive list of error codes. > Recently I have gotten errors 201 and 301. You want a copy of the "Hardware Maintenance Manual Volume 2: Thinkpad Computers", part number S82G-1502-02, available by calling 800 879-2755. Cost is US$7.95 - it's definitely worth it, also covers a lot of other Thinkpad models. Billy Y.. PS - 201 is most likely a memory error, 301 is probably a keyboard error or aux. input device (external keyboard/keypad/etc). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 8 01:46:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15046; Fri, 8 Sep 95 01:46:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18021; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 01:39:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 01:39:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom14.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18011; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 01:39:48 -0400 Received: by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id WAA09541; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 22:27:58 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 22:27:58 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199509080527.WAA09541@netcom14.netcom.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, vwayland@csn.net Subject: Re: great deal on TP disks (if it's true) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 23:11:11 -0600 To: phr@netcom.com Subject: Re: great deal on TP disks (if it's true) Please post results of your investigaton. Thanks, OK. I called the vendor (Kahlon Inc., 1-800-938-5060) and they said the prices were correct; the 810 meg disk is cheaper than the 720 meg disk because it is on "special". The disks are all refurbs. However, even if one doesn't believe in refurb disks, the 170 meg unit seems like a cheap way to get a caddy to re-use. The vendor says that all the different sizes are in stock. Of course I have no way to know if that is really true, but they didn't sound like they were messing with me. I still haven't ordered a Thinkpad so am holding off buying a disk cartridge too. But I may order a 170 meg cartridge as soon as I get a Thinkpad so that I'll have something to put my 1 gig drive into once those become available. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 8 09:26:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12700; Fri, 8 Sep 95 09:26:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21358; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:08:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:08:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ada.cs.fsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21341; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:08:30 -0400 Received: by ada.cs.fsu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA03735; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:46:54 GMT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:46:54 GMT From: Ted Baker Message-Id: <199509081146.LAA03735@ada.cs.fsu.edu> To: dewar@nile.gnat.com, phr@netcom.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755CX screen diagnostic? I have two bad pixels on my 755CX, along the left edge of the screen. They annoy me when the screen and room are dark, but they are outside the region actually used when I am running X11. --Ted Baker From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 8 12:18:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26868; Fri, 8 Sep 95 12:18:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08354; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:54:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:54:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08338; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:54:53 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sr5Ox-0004uLC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 10:31 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sr5Ow-0002nfC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 10:31 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sr5Os-0002wvC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 10:31 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: great deal on TP disks (if it's true) To: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:31:29 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <199509080527.WAA09541@netcom14.netcom.com> from "Paul Rubin" at Sep 7, 95 10:27:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > OK. I called the vendor (Kahlon Inc., 1-800-938-5060) and they said > the prices were correct; the 810 meg disk is cheaper than the 720 meg > disk because it is on "special". Did IBM change the form factor of the disk "cartridge" for the CE / CX series? -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 8 13:37:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06488; Fri, 8 Sep 95 13:37:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17165; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:24:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:24:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17155; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:24:34 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA17333; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:20:07 -0400 Message-Id: <9509081720.AA17333@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Thinkpad 755CX price drops and IBM PC Direct To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:20:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text I just wanted to let people know that anyone who bought a 755CX from IBM PC Direct in the last 30 days ought to take advantage of their undocumented (so far as I know) 30-day price guarantee. If you RECEIVED your machine within the last 30 days and it is now cheaper, call your sales rep for information as to how you can claim a refund for the price difference. It involved faxing them a letter stating your invoice number, prices, etc. which they then submit to their credit department. Considering that the SVGA 755CX 8/540 dropped from $5799 to $4849, it's well worth the time to pursue this refund. Something similar probably also applies to any vendor offering a 30-day return policy -- it's worth a call. -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 8 16:52:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26654; Fri, 8 Sep 95 16:52:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04714; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:37:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:37:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom12.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04696; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:37:47 -0400 Received: by netcom12.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA21838; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:34:54 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:34:54 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199509082034.NAA21838@netcom12.netcom.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP's and heat Browsing the tp750 archives I noticed an old message from Robert Dewar mentioning that the 755cx runs very hot. Does anyone else find this worrisome? Right now I'm using an off-brand machine with a similar problem; it has rubber feet on the bottom which keep about 2mm of airspace under the machine when it is used on a hard surface, and the airspace seems to really help keep it cool. But I use laptops on soft surfaces all the time (e.g. on my bed); if I wanted a machine to use on top of a desk, I'd buy a desktop computer. Does the 755cx also need airspace? Someone else mentioned that the 755CE does *not* have this problem. This surprises me since the CX and CE sound quite similar in design and I thought the 75 mhz Pentium didn't use especially more power than the 100 mhz 486dx4. Can anyone corroborate? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 8 17:21:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28738; Fri, 8 Sep 95 17:21:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07786; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:14:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:14:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07776; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:13:59 -0400 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HV1HHMFCKW0000BD@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 17:13:19 -0400 (EDT) From: billy@mix.com Subject: Re: TP's and heat In-Reply-To: <199509082034.NAA21838@netcom12.netcom.com> Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: phr@netcom.com, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <810594799.662554.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: > Someone else mentioned that the 755CE does *not* have this > problem. My 7555CE will get pretty hot sitting on a table, unless I use its little feet to lift it up enough for some air to pass under it. This makes a rather big difference - it stays quite cool. Both the disk and battery get pretty hot otherwise. Billy Y.. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 8 17:49:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00401; Fri, 8 Sep 95 17:49:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10029; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:40:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:40:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from micros.micros.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09993; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:39:55 -0400 Received: from smtplink.micros.com by micros.micros.com id aa02576; 8 Sep 95 17:38 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by smtplink.micros.com id AA810607188; Fri, 08 Sep 95 17:38:56 EST Date: Fri, 08 Sep 95 17:38:56 EST From: "Gerber, Josh" Message-Id: <9508088106.AA810607188@smtplink.micros.com> To: Paul Rubin , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP's and heat My 755Cs gets *extremely* hot on the bottom surface after 1 hour of use unless it's on a hard surface or has airflow underneath. Regards, -josh ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: TP's and heat Author: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) at SMTPLINK-Micros Date: 9/8/95 5:16 PM Browsing the tp750 archives I noticed an old message from Robert Dewar mentioning that the 755cx runs very hot. Does anyone else find this worrisome? Right now I'm using an off-brand machine with a similar problem; it has rubber feet on the bottom which keep about 2mm of airspace under the machine when it is used on a hard surface, and the airspace seems to really help keep it cool. But I use laptops on soft surfaces all the time (e.g. on my bed); if I wanted a machine to use on top of a desk, I'd buy a desktop computer. Does the 755cx also need airspace? Someone else mentioned that the 755CE does *not* have this problem. This surprises me since the CX and CE sound quite similar in design and I thought the 75 mhz Pentium didn't use especially more power than the 100 mhz 486dx4. Can anyone corroborate? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 8 18:06:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07411; Fri, 8 Sep 95 18:06:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11307; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:53:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:53:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11296; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:53:37 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA25517; Fri, 8 Sep 95 17:52:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 95 17:52:32 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509082152.AA25517@nile.gnat.com> To: jgerber@smtplink.micros.com, phr@netcom.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP's and heat the CX gets MUCH hotter than the 755C, I always put it up on its feet. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 8 18:06:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07425; Fri, 8 Sep 95 18:06:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11464; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:54:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:54:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11452; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:54:42 -0400 Received: from oasis.vpia.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 08 Sep 95 17:55:32 EDT Received: from OASIS/MERCURYQ by oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 8 Sep 95 17:57:36 EST Received: from MERCURYQ by OASIS (Mercury 1.21); 8 Sep 95 17:56:49 EST From: "Guy Farrell" Organization: The UConn Foundation, Inc. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:56:42 EST Subject: Re: TP's and heat Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: <209721416C@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu> Its not just the CPU that produces heat. A recharging battery can become hot enough as to be uncomfortable to hold in the hand. I've dealt with NiCd for many years and now Li. Both charge and rapid discharge result in a surprising amount of heat. Guy W. Farrell Vox: (203)486-5900 The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 U-Box 206 Fax: (203)486-1615 Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 8 20:38:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16600; Fri, 8 Sep 95 20:38:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21665; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 20:26:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 20:26:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21654; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 20:26:48 -0400 Received: from inc.net by inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15410; Fri, 8 Sep 95 19:26:36 CDT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 95 19:26:35 CDT Message-Id: <9509090026.AA15410@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: josephw@inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Subject: TP Dock II Questions Teemu, Don't have all the answers you are looking for right now but here are the basics: I'm also >interested in the SCSI port so what kind of external connector does >it have (normal Centronics-50 or smaller "SCSI2") ? It is a SCSI2 port (I used a MAC SCSI cable from PC/MAC Connection (1-800-800-1111 in the US) to connect my ZIP Drive. Is it possible >to hook up an internal SCSI drive (with ribbon cable) ? I believe so but I will check and follow up with you in the next day or two. And lastly, >is the SCSI adapter made by Adaptec or IBM ? This might affect the >availability of ASPI and other drivers. Is is an Adaptec adapter but I don't know which one off the top of my head. Again, I will check and let you know. Finally, I think the Dock II is great. I love coming home and simply pugging my machine in to the Dock, taking it in and out without worrying about powering down or disconnecting cables (I am watching Washington Week in Review in my living room after a "hot" undock an hour ago). Talk to soon with the rest of your answers. Joe Wilson Badger Valve & Fitting Milwaukee, WI From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 8 23:11:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25900; Fri, 8 Sep 95 23:11:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01880; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:02:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:02:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from globalvision.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01858; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:02:35 -0400 Received: by globalvision.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA17364; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:52:48 +0500 Message-Id: <9509090252.AA17364@ globalvision.net> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Jane Loyless Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:02:13 EST Reply-To: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: TP's and heat ** Reply to note from phr@netcom.com 09/08/95 1:34pm -0700 My TP755CE developed a terrible overheating problem about 4 weeks after I got it. The battery would suddenly get so hot that you could not touch it, the bottom of the case, or the keyboard. And I do mean suddenly - the first time it happened, I was sitting on the couch with the TP in my lap. It got so hot, so fast that it nearly burned my leg through the bottom of the case and two layers of cloth before I could move it. The first couple of rounds about service just got the battery replaced as it was assumed the battery had shorted out. But it kept happening, and I kept hounding our internal support people (and pointing out that if it didn't get fixed and caused a fire in my house or our office, etc., etc.). To make a long story short, I have on-site service. Two IBM techs came out, took it apart and replaced a number of parts including the DC-DC converter. Now it's barely warm regardless of where I leave it sitting or how long it's on. BTW, they also had to replace the keyboard because the heat had warped it and the mouse buttons stopped working. Jane cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 8 23:39:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27047; Fri, 8 Sep 95 23:39:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03758; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:34:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:34:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03747; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:34:19 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0srGg8-00010BC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 20:34 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Re: great deal on TP disks (if it's true) To: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 20:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "Scott Stratmoen" at Sep 8, 95 10:31:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > Did IBM change the form factor of the disk "cartridge" for the CE / CX > series? No. I use our hard disks interchangably in 750C, 755CE, 755CD, and 755CX machines. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 8 23:49:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28400; Fri, 8 Sep 95 23:49:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04366; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:44:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:44:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04355; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:44:52 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0srGqN-00010BC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 20:44 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: 755CX Spare battry? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad Users List) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 20:44:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Can anyone recommend a good dealer who sells 755CX (Lithium Ion) battries? What should I expect to pay for these? -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 9 00:18:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29696; Sat, 9 Sep 95 00:18:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06800; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 00:13:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 00:12:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06770; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 00:12:56 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA03236; Sat, 9 Sep 95 00:13:12 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 95 00:13:12 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509090413.AA03236@nile.gnat.com> To: mehdi@armon.rain.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755CX Spare battry? The Li-Ion batteries are not easy to find. PC-Direct says maybe that they will have them in about four weeks, and that maybe they will cost about $200. I have not found them cheaper than $299, this is a price quoted by several places. Power Express has them in stock at this price (I just bought two yesterday, and they arrived overnight). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 9 01:18:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00495; Sat, 9 Sep 95 01:18:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09700; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 01:12:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 01:12:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from noc4.dccs.upenn.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09690; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 01:12:40 -0400 Received: from DOLPHIN.UPENN.EDU by noc4.dccs.upenn.edu id AA23042; Sat, 9 Sep 95 01:12:37 -0400 Received: by dolphin.upenn.edu id BAA32130; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 01:12:37 -0400 From: mtran@dolphin.upenn.edu (Mark Tran) Posted-Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 01:12:37 -0400 Message-Id: <199509090512.BAA32130@dolphin.upenn.edu> Subject: recharing and batteries To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 01:12:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn3.0] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I have a 755Cs and I only take it out once in a while. Now, my question is, is it okay for me to leave my battery inside the computer so that it is always recharging or should I take it out and just power my TP with the AC adapter when at home? Another problem I'm having is my battery seems to drain itself out when it is not in use. Is this normal or is my battery defective? I've tried discharging it in hopes of solving the problem once but it didn't work. Thanks. Mark From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 9 01:36:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07271; Sat, 9 Sep 95 01:36:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10319; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 01:29:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 01:29:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom16.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10309; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 01:29:30 -0400 Received: by netcom16.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id WAA26114; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:26:37 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:26:37 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199509090526.WAA26114@netcom16.netcom.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: More 755CX price cuts coming? Apparently a few new TP's will be introduced in October; but 755CX prices were just cut a lot recently. Anyone think they are likely to fall a lot again in the next 1-2 months? I can probably survive that long w/o a new machine, depending. Alternatively I wonder how likely that a flood of used 755CX's or 755CE's will appear on the market... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 9 07:45:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26012; Sat, 9 Sep 95 07:45:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08245; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 07:37:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 07:37:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08233; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 07:37:24 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA06097; Sat, 9 Sep 95 07:37:50 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 95 07:37:50 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509091137.AA06097@nile.gnat.com> To: mtran@dolphin.upenn.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: recharing and batteries Nicad batteries loose their charge pretty rapidly outside the machine if not in use. Li-On's are MUCH better in this respect, I see them still at 95% after two weeks, have not tried longer. Li-On's can be left in without much worry, but I can't believe the 90-100% cycling is good for Ni-Cad's. It is a pity there is no setting in the power saving stuff which says forget about the battery and leave it alone. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 9 09:22:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00159; Sat, 9 Sep 95 09:22:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13598; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 09:15:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 09:15:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13580; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 09:15:22 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0087; Sat, 09 Sep 95 09:11:16 -0400 Message-Id: <9509091311.AA0087@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 316676280866F55185256231004464BF; Sat, 9 Sep 95 09:11:16 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 8 Sep 95 8:29:00 Subject: Re: TP Error Codes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....Does anyone know where I can get an exhaustive list of error codes. Recently I have gotten errors 201 and 301. The manual that comes with the TP755 isn't very helpful...." ~~~~~~~~~~ Call tech support and ask them to fax you the error code pages from the tech ref. I may have a copy at home. If so, I'll get it to you next week. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 9 12:07:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11177; Sat, 9 Sep 95 12:07:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23452; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 11:58:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 11:58:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23441; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 11:58:20 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id IAA03485; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 08:58:17 -0700 Message-Id: <199509091558.IAA03485@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Sat, 09 Sep 95 09:01:13 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: mtran@dolphin.upenn.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: recharing and batteries It is normal for batteries to discharge when not in use. This is normal. You should not leave the battery in the TP while using it in the desktop while charging on AC power, as this shortens the battery's life drastically. ----------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington USC Law, Class of '97 AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail |Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, | |in whole or in part. Copyright, 1995. License to distribute this post is | |available to Microsoft for $1,000. Posting without permission constitutes | |an agreement to these terms. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 9 12:45:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14108; Sat, 9 Sep 95 12:45:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26168; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 12:38:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 12:38:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26157; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 12:38:22 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA11301; Sat, 9 Sep 95 12:38:37 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 95 12:38:37 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509091638.AA11301@nile.gnat.com> To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu, mtran@dolphin.upenn.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: recharing and batteries "as this shortens the battery's life drastically" says ROger Roger, do you have measurements that show this is the case, or are you guessing from what you think you know? I have tried to measure this effect, and have been unable to do so ... Yes, in theory, it sounds a bad thing to have the batteries doing 90-100% cycling, as I agreed in a recent message. But theory and practice do not always match when it comes to battery life! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 9 15:34:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24455; Sat, 9 Sep 95 15:34:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05184; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 15:26:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 15:26:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05174; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 15:26:06 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.32] (mac32.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA10643; Sat, 9 Sep 95 15:25:50 EDT Message-Id: <9509091925.AA10643@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 15:39:24 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: game port Ok, don't tell *anybody* I asked this, but is there any way to attach a ...er...joystick to a tp750 for the purpose of .... playing games. I don't want this to get around, but I've developed a weakness for Flight Simulator, and the trackpoint lacks realism. :) Thanks. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 9 16:48:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29302; Sat, 9 Sep 95 16:48:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09571; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 16:38:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 16:38:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09561; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 16:38:24 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05887; Sat, 9 Sep 95 13:37:02 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) id NAA01001; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 13:37:00 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9509091337.ZM999@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 13:36:59 -0700 In-Reply-To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) "game port" (Sep 9, 3:39pm) References: <9509091925.AA10643@gl.ciw.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: game port Cc: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sep 9, 3:39pm, Victor Kress wrote: > Subject: game port > Ok, don't tell *anybody* I asked this, but is there any way to attach a > ...er...joystick to a tp750 for the purpose of .... playing games. Sure, there are several versions of laptop gameports available. Some connect to the serial port, others connect through the parallel port. Your local computer retailer should have them. If not, grab a copy of the latest Computer Gaming World -- they always have full-page ads for the laptop gameports, in addition to mail-order dealers that carry them. > I don't want this to get around, but I've developed a weakness for Flight > Simulator, and the trackpoint lacks realism. :) Victor, do you recall how much traffic/effort we spent trying to get sound working on Doom? Robert From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 9 19:19:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09143; Sat, 9 Sep 95 19:19:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17853; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 19:09:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 19:09:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17843; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 19:09:56 -0400 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08909; Sat, 9 Sep 95 19:09:51 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0055; Sat, 09 Sep 95 19:09:39 -0400 Date: Sat, 09 Sep 95 19:09:39 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9509092309.AA0055@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: josephw@inc.net Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Fri, 8 Sep 95 19:26:35 CDT from josephw@inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Subject: TP Dock II Questions Date: Fri, 8 Sep 95 19:26:35 CDT From: josephw@inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Is it possible >to hook up an internal SCSI drive (with ribbon cable) ? I believe so but I will check and follow up with you in the next day or two. It is possible. The ribbon cable is included with the dock. And lastly, >is the SCSI adapter made by Adaptec or IBM ? This might affect the >availability of ASPI and other drivers. Is is an Adaptec adapter but I don't know which one off the top of my head. Again, I will check and let you know. It is a custom Adaptec adapter. The BIOS identification string is "Adaptec BIOS:AHA-1532P". From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 05:31:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20069; Sun, 10 Sep 95 05:31:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22772; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 05:14:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 05:14:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from next.lbs.lon.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22762; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 05:14:05 -0400 Received: by next.lbs.lon.ac.uk (NX5.67e/NeXT-1.0(KJW-19Apr90)) id AA09201; Sun, 10 Sep 95 10:14:33 +0100 Message-Id: <9509100914.AA09201@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ivo Welch Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 10:14:32 +0100 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: IDE drive on 755CX I have just ordered an IBM 755CX. Because I would like to install NeXTStep (an OS), with the new NS drivers (at www.next.com) that support 800*600, I need to find a convenient way to install the OS. I have read the FAQ, but it lacks answers in the appropriate sections. The best way would be if I could connect harddisk to a DELL desktop. Optimally, I would like to insert the Thinkpad caddy with the HD into some receptacle, and have it recognized as a second IDE drive. Does anyone produce such a device? (Note: it need not look pretty; this is only for occasional connections.) If this does not exist, is the 755CX disk a standard 2.5" device that can be connected (using the cabling sold by some mail-order vendors), when opened up and removed from the caddy. Is this difficult? Can it be done and returned appropriately, so that the warranty is not spoiled? Help appreciated. (I will post my experience with NeXTStep once it is done.) /ivo welch ivo@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk PS: Does someone have linux instructions? PS: I have just joined the list. In case I have not made it onto the list, please send me a direct email. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 05:59:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21438; Sun, 10 Sep 95 05:59:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA00811; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 05:48:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 05:48:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.netvision.net.il by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA00790; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 05:48:34 -0400 Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts33p2.NetVision.net.il [194.90.3.142]) by mail.netvision.net.il (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA20101 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 11:48:20 +0200 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 10:27:29 PDT From: Ariel Subject: Bios Upgrade ? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How Can I find what Bios version is installed on my TP755c, and where can I find the latest Version to upgrade ? TIA ARIEL From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 05:59:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21443; Sun, 10 Sep 95 05:59:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA00840; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 05:49:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 05:49:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.netvision.net.il by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA00829; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 05:48:57 -0400 Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts33p2.NetVision.net.il [194.90.3.142]) by mail.netvision.net.il (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA20176 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 11:48:43 +0200 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 10:43:10 PDT From: Ariel Subject: TP755c and Kingstone Modem To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have a TP755c and Kingstone Fax/Modem 14.4 DataRex, I need the extra Memory that the Card and Socket Services is using, but I can't run the modem with the Enabler ( PCCOMDOS.SYS ) . I have called Kingstone Tec Support with No success ( they could not fix it ) Is There any resson or an IBM "Feture" that do not allow me to use the Enabler ? ( My 3Com Network Card is working with out the card & Socket Services. ) Any Ideas why ? TIA ARIEL From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 05:59:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21445; Sun, 10 Sep 95 05:59:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA00807; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 05:48:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 05:48:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.netvision.net.il by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA00782; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 05:48:30 -0400 Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts33p2.NetVision.net.il [194.90.3.142]) by mail.netvision.net.il (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA20074 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 11:48:13 +0200 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 10:24:40 PDT From: Ariel Subject: Vesa Driver To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Is the VESA Driver Ver. 1.07 ( Vesa.exe 11119 11-27-93 ) the latest Driver and if not where can I find the Latest driver TIA ARIEL From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 07:42:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26887; Sun, 10 Sep 95 07:42:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06091; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 07:33:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 07:33:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06080; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 07:33:28 -0400 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id MAA12427 (8.6.12/); Sun, 10 Sep 1995 12:37:45 +0200 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 12:37:45 +0200 Message-Id: <199509101037.MAA12427@asimov.cnam.fr> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, ivo@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk Subject: Re: IDE drive on 755CX you'd better know what you're doing for NeXTSTep - I thought the NeXT company specifically recommended users to stay away from ThinkPads ? Edmund. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 09:23:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00346; Sun, 10 Sep 95 09:23:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11647; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 09:14:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 09:14:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uranus.ubs.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11637; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 09:14:10 -0400 From: Received: by uranus.ubs.com; id PAA14114; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 15:10:47 +0200 Received: from unknown(137.156.150.131) by uranus.ubs.com via smap (g3.0.1) id sma014112; Sun, 10 Sep 95 15:10:34 +0200 Received: from by sv400net.flur.zuerich.ubs.ch with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA255698835; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 15:13:56 +0200 X-Openmail-Hops: 2 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 15:12:55 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: IDE drive on 755CX Mime-Version: 1.0 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="openmail-part-046168e1-00000001" --openmail-part-046168e1-00000001 Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="Re: IDE drive on 755CX" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > you'd better know what you're doing for NeXTSTep - I thought > the NeXT company specifically recommended users to stay away > from ThinkPads ? > = > Edmund. = Was so until recently, but Next has just released a video driver for the 755CX, so presumably someone there has tried this combination successfully, and at least somewhat officially. I was quite excited about this news as I do Nextstep development for a living and the SVGA TP would make one of the better mobile platforms for NS, not least of all because the TP shares a bit of the sleek visual aesthetic of the old black Motorola-based NeXTstations we knew and loved :-) However, like Ivo, I'm concerned about the installation. Normally you would have to install Nextstep onto an Intel machine via a SCSI CD-ROM or hard-drive, and I don't think a PCMCIA connection will do for this. = That leaves Ivo's solution of installing it onto the TP IDE drive grafted into a desktop machine, which should work according to the earlier traffic on the list which suggests that the internal connector on the bare drive is a = standard one (warranty be damned, full screwdrivers ahead!). Or, what about using the Dock? Two possibilites here: 1. The Adaptec AHA-1532P internal "custom" adapter is really just a flavour of the Next-supported 1542C, in which case you just attach a CD-ROM and go! 2. The internal adaptor is unsupported, but then you ought to be able to stick a 1540 or 1542 into a free ISA slot while somehow disabling the default adapter. Then again, I wonder if there's something non-standard about how the Dock extends the TP's internal bus that confounds Nextstep? Anyone have any information on this? Oh, and how good is PCMCIA support, 'cause a Nextstation without Ethernet would be a travesty. Ivo? =2D-- Tim Vetter tim.vetter@ubs.com (ASCII) Forex & Fixed Income Trading Development Union Bank of Switzerland voice: (+41) 1/2358422 fax: (+41) 1/2355129 snailmail: LEIT/LITH-VFR Postfach 8021 Zurich, Switzerland --openmail-part-046168e1-00000001 Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="Attachment Modes" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 644 Re: IDE drive on 755CX 600 Attachment Modes --openmail-part-046168e1-00000001-- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 09:38:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00451; Sun, 10 Sep 95 09:38:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12768; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 09:31:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 09:31:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12758; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 09:31:29 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id GAA17669; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 06:31:27 -0700 Message-Id: <199509101331.GAA17669@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 06:34:21 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: dewar@nile.gnat.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: recharing and batteries On Sat, 9 Sep 95 12:38:37 -0400 you wrote: >">Roger, do you have measurements that show this is the case, or are you >guessing from what you think you know? > >I have tried to measure this effect, and have been unable to do so ... Actually, I base my comment on 3 things: 1) About a year ago, several people here on the list reported that they had more or less ruined batteries from keeping them plugged into the AC charger on a continuous basis for a long time. Therefore, they did, in effect "measure" this. 2) There is a fair amount of technical literature (I'm a radio ham, and therefore I waste my time reading such stuff) that indicates keeping a battery charged such that it stays warm all the time accelerates the chemical reactions inside the battery that cause it to age. This shortens battery life. How good/bad the Thinkpad batteries are in particular in this regards I couldn't say. If the experiences noted in 1) are accurate, however, well.... 3) Please note that my comments had NOTHING to do with the so-called "memory effect" which allegedly causes batteries that are not fully re-charged to "plateau" at a charging level that is less than the rated, optimal level. For example, supposedly a battery that was frequently recharged to only 80% of a full charge, from perhaps being only 50% discharged, will eventually only be able to hold around an 80% charge, due to the "memory effect." In actual fact, the memory effect originated in space satellite applications, where orbiting satellites re-charged their batteries once per orbit, very very regularly, as they moved from shade to sunlight. This "memory effect" had the effect of degrading their batteries, which of course was very expensive since the batteries couldn't be replaced. However, I have read literature from knowledgeable sources that contends that this phenomenon is very rare, and is in fact very difficult to duplicate experimentally in testing laboratories. For practical purposes, it is something folks like us can ignore, so it is said. The memory effect is a different thing than degradation caused by constant charging/recharging. Batteries degrade over time by being charged, partly due to chemical reactions caused by the charging process. Feel your battery after being plugged into the charger. It is warm. Batteries have a finite number of charges per battery life. This fact, combined with reports of real-world degradation by Thinkpad users on this list, is what I based my comments on. I have not, incidentally, experienced the phenomenon myself. However, I've been careful not to abuse my batteries by constantly charging them. Law school is expensive, and I don't need any $200 battery replacement hits. Hope this answered your question about what my comments were based upon. Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 09:53:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03492; Sun, 10 Sep 95 09:53:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13510; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 09:46:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 09:46:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13474; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 09:46:43 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA16407; Sun, 10 Sep 95 09:47:08 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 09:47:08 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509101347.AA16407@nile.gnat.com> To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: recharing and batteries note that, unlike some other laptops, the batteries in the Thinkpad are NOT "constantly charging", they only charge when they get down to 90%. It takes FAR longer for them to degrade to this level of charge than it does to top them up, so only a very small fraction of the time are they actually charging. That's why I think the literature that suggests that constant charging may be harmful may not be relevant. When I had a TP using a Nicad, I left one (out of five) batteries constantly plugged in, and did not see any degradation compared to the other four. In fact it was one of the other four that mysteriously conked out. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 10:00:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07531; Sun, 10 Sep 95 10:00:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13982; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 09:54:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 09:54:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13971; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 09:54:33 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA16426; Sun, 10 Sep 95 09:55:04 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 09:55:04 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509101355.AA16426@nile.gnat.com> To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: recharing and batteries "couldn't be replaced. However, I have read literature from knowledgeable sources that contends that this phenomenon is very rare," This may be rare, but it is easy to demonstrate, my camcorder will be happy to demonstrate this phenomenon much more cheaply than the sattellite! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 10:50:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08882; Sun, 10 Sep 95 10:50:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16844; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 10:42:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 10:42:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16834; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 10:42:21 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id HAA18729; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 07:42:18 -0700 Message-Id: <199509101442.HAA18729@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 07:45:13 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: dewar@nile.gnat.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: recharing and batteries You are correct that if a ni cad battery has cells of differing quality that you will experience trouble. My understanding is that this is not the memory effect, but rather the fact that the good cells will actually reverse and begin to discharge, while the inferior cells are still charging up. This is why the quality of a battery pack is so important. I don't doubt that IBM did a pretty good job with theirs. They'd be crazy to put an expensive CPU/PROM on a cheap battery. I don't think that they did this. My two batteries still function like new after 1 1/2 years. I guess I'll never get an excuse to get a new 'Pad. :-) ----------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington USC Law, Class of '97 AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail |Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, | |in whole or in part. Copyright, 1995. License to distribute this post is | |available to Microsoft for $1,000. Posting without permission constitutes | |an agreement to these terms. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 10:53:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09405; Sun, 10 Sep 95 10:53:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17198; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 10:47:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 10:47:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17187; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 10:47:17 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA02604; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 10:47:10 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 10:47:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: recharing and batteries In-Reply-To: <9509101347.AA16407@nile.gnat.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 10 Sep 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > note that, unlike some other laptops, the batteries in the Thinkpad are > NOT "constantly charging", they only charge when they get down to 90%. > It takes FAR longer for them to degrade to this level of charge than it > does to top them up, so only a very small fraction of the time are they > actually charging. > > That's why I think the literature that suggests that constant charging may > be harmful may not be relevant. For what it's worth, 10 months ago, after leaving my battery plugged in and on AC for over a month, it died. It would hold a charge for about 10 seconds. IBM shipped me a replacement which I was babying so it wouldn't happen again. Well, over a month ago I installed Linux and have been leaving the battery in and on AC continuously since then, except for the rundown once every 10 days or so. Last night I took it off AC. After only an hour of use the light got down to blinking orange. This is a TP750 mono with the NiMH battery so I normally get 3-5 hours out of a charge. I'll probably be giving IBM another call soon. This battery has only had about 50 complete power cycles. You guys have peaked my interest, so I'll do a rundown sometime soon. I'd like to not leave the battery in when on AC, but I'd also like to have the battery in as a backup in case of a power failure. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 11:33:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10619; Sun, 10 Sep 95 11:33:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19550; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 11:26:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 11:26:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19540; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 11:26:22 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id IAA19595; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 08:26:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199509101526.IAA19595@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 08:29:11 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: [Fwd: Re: recharing and batteries] =========BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE========= > Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 08:27:48 EDT > From: buffingt@scf.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) > Reply-To: buffingt@scf.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) > To: jokim@tuna.mit.edu > X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 > Subject: Re: recharing and batteries On Sun, 10 Sep 1995 10:47:09 -0400 (EDT) you wrote: >You guys have peaked my interest, so I'll do a rundown sometime soon. >I'd like to not leave the battery in when on AC, but I'd also like to >have the battery in as a backup in case of a power failure. Note that if you buy the new portable charger it does not charge the Thinkpad while the 'pad is turned on. Therefore, I use it at home, and my original one on the road. This way I have a battery in the unit at home, as a backup, but I am not abusing it by constantly charging it. On the road, generally I *want* to charge the battery at every chance, since there is the liklihood that I might be somewhere where I don't have ready access to a plug. Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | =========END FORWARDED MESSAGE========= ----------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington USC Law, Class of '97 AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail |Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, | |in whole or in part. Copyright, 1995. License to distribute this post is | |available to Microsoft for $1,000. Posting without permission constitutes | |an agreement to these terms. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 12:14:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13213; Sun, 10 Sep 95 12:14:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21996; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 12:05:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 12:05:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21978; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 12:05:45 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA16771; Sun, 10 Sep 95 12:06:09 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 12:06:09 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509101606.AA16771@nile.gnat.com> To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: recharing and batteries] "Note that if you buy the new portable charger it does not charge the Thinkpad while the 'pad is turned on. Therefore, I use it at home, and my original one on the road. This way I have a battery in the unit at home, as a backup, but I am not abusing it by constantly charging it. On the road, generally I *want* to charge the battery at every chance, since there is the liklihood that I might be somewhere where I don't have ready access to a plug." We have discussed this before, what exactly is "the new portable charger", are you talking about the inexpensive AC adaptor, P/N 85G6670, because I certainly see that charging my Li-Ion batteries while the pad is turned on. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 14:46:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23111; Sun, 10 Sep 95 14:46:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00658; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 14:36:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 14:36:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tin by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00646; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 14:36:09 -0400 Received: from WOODS.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by tin (5.65/Monsanto1.7) id AA02597; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 13:34:51 -0500 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 13:34:51 -0500 Message-Id: <9509101834.AA02597@tin> From: snmauf@elm.monsanto.com (Simon Maufe, Monsanto CROP IT, V2K, 4-3207) To: TIN"tp750@cs.utk.edu"@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: re: game port [Colorado Gameport] re game port on a ThinkPad, I use that well know busines graphics package FS5.0 very well with the Colorado Spectrum notebook gameport, goesinto the serial port and has the seral port then coming out the back of it.It does not work with all flight sims, there is a company that does a lot ofthem, Apache etc, I think it is Spectrum Holobyte, who doesn't support thegameport whic is annoying. Simon ///**************************************************************************// /// Simon Maufe ||| MAUFE@TWEETY.DIGSYS.COM // /// Daugherty Systems ||| 314-432-8200 office // /// St Louis ||| 314-257-8018 home // /// ||| 314-694-3207 client office // /// All opinions and thoughts are mine and not those of my employer or client// // Use anything in here at your own risk \\\\\\************************************************************************** \\ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 17:44:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00633; Sun, 10 Sep 95 17:44:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12007; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 17:33:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 17:33:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dub-img-1.compuserve.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11997; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 17:33:49 -0400 Received: by dub-img-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id RAA24464; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 17:33:17 -0400 Date: 10 Sep 95 17:31:57 EDT From: "Murray E. Milligan" <72704.232@compuserve.com> To: Thinkpad Listserv Subject: Howdy! from new member Message-Id: <950910213157_72704.232_FHP45-1@CompuServe.COM> Hi I'm new to this listserv. I am the proud owner of a TP 340CSE. I know it's not a 7xx series, but I hope to learn a few things about TPs in general. Someday, down the road when I win the lottery, perhaps I can purchase a 7xx...but for now...I'm quite happy with my 340. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 18:01:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07515; Sun, 10 Sep 95 18:01:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13286; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 17:54:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 17:54:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13270; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 17:54:00 -0400 Received: from inc.net by inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20368; Sun, 10 Sep 95 16:53:48 CDT Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 16:53:46 CDT Message-Id: <9509102153.AA20368@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: josephw@inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Subject: More TP Dock II Answers Answers missing from my posting from Friday: Don't have all the answers you are looking for right now but here are the basics: Is it possible to hook up an internal SCSI drive (with ribbon cable) ? YES And lastly, >is the SCSI adapter made by Adaptec or IBM ? This might affect the >availability of ASPI and other drivers. Is is an Adaptec adapter. Had no problem recognizing my SCSI Zip Drive. Am also using it w/ OS/2 Warp and it also works like a charm. Joe Wilson Badger Valve & Fitting Milwaukee, WI From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 19:32:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10606; Sun, 10 Sep 95 19:32:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17796; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 19:23:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 19:23:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17786; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 19:23:17 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA00115; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 19:23:16 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 19:23:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Leaving battery in Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ok, I did the rundown. It turns out the light is turning orange and starting to blink while there's still about 70% charge in the battery. The fuel gauge (not available under Linux) shows the correct percent charge, but the light is inaccurate. Has anyone else had this problem on a TP750? The rundown made it almost to 4 hours (all power saving features turned off). ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 20:45:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16612; Sun, 10 Sep 95 20:45:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20652; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 20:37:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 20:37:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from aaRS.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20642; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 20:37:42 -0400 Received: by aaRS.mit.edu (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA24236; Sun, 10 Sep 95 20:33:02 -0400 From: "Arturo J. Morales" Message-Id: <9509102033.ZM24234@aaRS.mit.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 20:33:01 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Linux w/810mb HD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Ok, I now have the 810mb HD, and would like to install Linux on some of it... However, I tried getting the dparam.com file from http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse/linux/ and the file is empty... This is a problem, i think, since i don't know the parameters of the disk, and I need them to boot the system (again, I think :) The info on the page is for the 540mb HD, so i was wondering if anyone knew the parameters for the 810. Also, I have an original version of Warp (w/o any of the CSD's applied) Is there anything I need extra to run Warp happily on my 750Cs? besides the Thinkpad Features Disk? Everything I've found seems to pertain to OS/2 2.11 and the installation I did today seemed to work fine, but i haven't tried suspend or anything fancy yet... Thanks in advance! Art -- Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | art@aars.mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://minihelix.mit.edu/top.html | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 21:37:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20302; Sun, 10 Sep 95 21:37:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23620; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:31:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:31:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23610; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:30:59 -0400 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA19546; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:35:52 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:35:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Thinkpad List Subject: Sound on a 750 under Windows Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone gotten sound recording working on their 750 under Windows? I seem to recall it wasn't working when the pad was released (I didn't care up till a week ago) and now I am unable to get it to work. Am I missing something? ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 21:45:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20788; Sun, 10 Sep 95 21:45:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23903; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:38:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:38:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23893; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:38:09 -0400 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA20110; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:43:09 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:43:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: "Roger J. Buffington" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: recharing and batteries] In-Reply-To: <199509101526.IAA19595@chaph.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 10 Sep 1995, Roger J. Buffington wrote: > Note that if you buy the new portable charger it does not charge the > Thinkpad while the 'pad is turned on. I will mention that I used my pad to dead earlier today, came home, plugged into my portable charger, turned it on, started working constantly, hard drive spinning, PCMCIA Megahertx 14.4 modem on, cover open and backlight on full. Battery charged between when I started at 805p and now, 934p. Machine is a 750 Mono, 12M RAM (ie - higher batery drain than a 4M), 540M HD, Ethernet PCMCIA card in slot 1, Megahertz 14.4k modem in 2) And is _definately_charging_. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 21:51:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20826; Sun, 10 Sep 95 21:51:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24125; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:43:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:43:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24115; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:43:32 -0400 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA20456; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:48:34 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:48:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Thinkpad List Subject: 170M IDE drive... in another computer Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I moved a new Toshiba 540 into my case and offered the IBM 170M drive to my brother for his Sanyo 18MB. Like a fool, I agree to install it. It's not working. The machine has a config screen, I'm punching in the specs on the top of the IBM drive - 989 cyls, 10 heads, 34 sectors. No go. I'm wondering if there's some possible difference between the IBM drive and the Connor CP-2064 that came out of this Sanyo (which is really a relabeled Toshiba laptop, by the way) The connor has 2 jumpers, the IBM has none. Does anyone have specs for these two drives or any idea why my problem might be? I know it's not 100% Pad related, but I know a few people have removed smaller drives and may have tried to reuse them. (Besides, I think I'm running in the black on this list as far as contributing anyways, so I don't feel too bad in asking...) ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 21:59:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21376; Sun, 10 Sep 95 21:59:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24580; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:52:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:52:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24563; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:52:49 -0400 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA21114; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:57:47 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:57:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Paul Rubin Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: great deal on TP disks (if it's true) In-Reply-To: <199509080158.SAA09093@netcom12.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Paul Rubin wrote: > Kahlon Inc. (a Klingon-owned firm?) in Yorba Linda (home of > the Nixon Library, hmmm...) advertises IBM Thinkpad hard > drives "with removable case and installation instructions", > for $165/395/495/705/695 for 170, 340, 540, 720, and 810 meg > respectively. The last is probably a typo since the 810 is > not likely to cost less than the 720. Saw this and the response saying the 810 is indeed cheaper, could someone please post the phone number so I don't have to spend $3 for a Computer Shopper for this one tidbit...? Also, they take MC/Visa? Do I need an order number? (I wouldn't mind an 810 w/ case so I can put FreeBSD on my current 510 and Windork on my 810) ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 10 22:48:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23539; Sun, 10 Sep 95 22:48:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26252; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 22:39:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 22:39:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26242; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 22:39:29 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03821; Sun, 10 Sep 95 19:38:13 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id TAA01800; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 19:38:12 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9509101938.ZM1798@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 19:38:11 -0700 In-Reply-To: Don Whiteside "Sound on a 750 under Windows" (Sep 10, 9:35pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Sound on a 750 under Windows Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sep 10, 9:35pm, Don Whiteside wrote: > > Anyone gotten sound recording working on their 750 under Windows? I seem > to recall it wasn't working when the pad was released (I didn't care up > till a week ago) and now I am unable to get it to work. Am I missing > something? Don, if I remember correctly, when I upgraded from a 750C to the 755C, one of the new features was that the 755 had a microphone. Are you sure you've got a microphone? Sound recorder on the 755, btw, has always worked for me. Robert George Army Research Laboratory From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 11 00:06:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28568; Mon, 11 Sep 95 00:06:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29038; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 23:56:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 23:56:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29028; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 23:56:26 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA00514; Sun, 10 Sep 1995 23:56:22 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 23:56:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Don Whiteside Cc: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Sound on a 750 under Windows In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 10 Sep 1995, Don Whiteside wrote: > Anyone gotten sound recording working on their 750 under Windows? I seem > to recall it wasn't working when the pad was released (I didn't care up > till a week ago) and now I am unable to get it to work. Am I missing > something? It's worked since I first bought my 750 (I was having trouble recording sound under OS/2 so tested it under Windows where it worked), and it works right now for Internet Phone. I did figure out that a mono mic will not work. You have to use a stereo mic. At least that's what I think is going on. Now if someone has it working under Linux, I'd be very interested. :) ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 11 00:24:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29858; Mon, 11 Sep 95 00:24:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00319; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 00:17:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 00:17:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00309; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 00:17:18 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29565; Mon, 11 Sep 95 00:17:00 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0040; Mon, 11 Sep 95 00:16:41 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 95 00:16:41 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9509110416.AA0040@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: art@aaRS.mit.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Sun, 10 Sep 1995 20:33:01 -0400 from "Arturo J. Morales" Subject: Linux w/810mb HD From: "Arturo J. Morales" Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 20:33:01 -0400 However, I tried getting the dparam.com file from http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse/linux/ and the file is empty... This is a problem, i think, since i don't know the parameters of the disk, and I need them to boot the system (again, I think :) The info on the page is for the 540mb HD, so i was wondering if anyone knew the parameters for the 810. Newer versions of Linux correctly identify the disk geometry, at least on my 755C installing Slackware 2.2. I've only used the 340 MB internal drive, but I've tried two external IDE drives (728 and 1620 MB) and all are recognized correctly. I'm currently running kernel 1.2.13. It probably isn't necessary for you to know the geometry in advance if you are installing a recent version. Also, I have an original version of Warp (w/o any of the CSD's applied) Is there anything I need extra to run Warp happily on my 750Cs? besides the Thinkpad Features Disk? Everything I've found seems to pertain to OS/2 2.11 and the installation I did today seemed to work fine, but i haven't tried suspend or anything fancy yet... All you should need is the "ThinkPad Utility Diskettes", preferably version 2.00, in order to install the "ThinkPad Features" (I know this is probably what you meant, but I find it helpful to be precise in these matters). The audio, video, and PCMCIA support in Warp works reasonably well, although I suggest installing fixpak #5 at a minimum, and the newer video drivers as well: ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/mobiles/755wd101.exe From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 11 00:29:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00064; Mon, 11 Sep 95 00:29:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00536; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 00:23:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 00:23:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00526; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 00:23:17 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29852; Mon, 11 Sep 95 00:22:58 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0041; Mon, 11 Sep 95 00:22:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 95 00:22:35 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9509110422.AA0041@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: rel@mail.netvision.net.il Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Sun, 10 Sep 95 10:27:29 PDT from Ariel Subject: Bios Upgrade ? Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 10:27:29 PDT From: Ariel How Can I find what Bios version is installed on my TP755c, and where can I find the latest Version to upgrade ? The most recent version is available by ftp: ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/mobiles/sytps120.exe After you unpack that file and use it to build a floppy diskette, there will be a readme file on the diskette that contains a little table. The table shows the IBM part numbers corresponding to the different BIOS version numbers. Once you have the table in hand, boot your machine into "Easy Setup", select "Config", then select "SystemBoard". You will be presented with a screen showing the part number of your BIOS, among other things. Use the table to convert the part number to the BIOS version. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 11 05:09:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20333; Mon, 11 Sep 95 05:09:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16730; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 04:57:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 04:57:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vmgate by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16720; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 04:57:21 -0400 Received: from smtpgw.mfltd.co.uk by vmgate (5.0/25-eef) id AA02174; Mon, 11 Sep 95 09:53:14 BST Received: by smtpgw.mfltd.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <30540787@smtpgw.mfltd.co.uk>; Mon, 11 Sep 95 09:55:19 GMT From: "D. Gwyn Jones" To: tp750 Subject: FW: game port Date: Mon, 11 Sep 95 09:54:00 GMT Message-Id: <30540787@smtpgw.mfltd.co.uk> Encoding: 23 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 > > Ok, don't tell *anybody* I asked this, but is there any way to attach a > > ...er...joystick to a tp750 for the purpose of .... playing games. > > Sure, there are several versions of laptop gameports available. Some connect > to the serial port, others connect through the parallel port. Your local > computer retailer should have them. If not, grab a copy of the latest > Computer I have the "Notebook GamePort" from Colorado Spectrum which works fine with Doom, IndyCar Racing, Flight Simulator 4. etc. and plugs into the serial port. The trouble with it is that it realies on software support in the game, so you need to check support for every title. I have since seen PCMCIA joystick cards cheaper than I paid for the GamePort and of course they have the advantage of being 100 percent compatable (I assume) because they just look like a normal joystick card to any game. Regards, Gwyn. dgj@mfltd.co.uk From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 11 09:38:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09642; Mon, 11 Sep 95 09:38:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11013; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:16:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:16:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dorite1.iquest.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11003; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:16:05 -0400 Received: from ts00-ind-30.iquest.net by dorite1.iquest.net with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #16) id m0ss8iJ-00061TC; Mon, 11 Sep 95 08:15 EST Message-Id: Date: Mon, 11 Sep 95 08:15 EST X-Sender: rsimpson@pop.iquest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: rsimpson@iquest.net (Richard M Simpson III) Subject: Hmmmm.... Hello, I hope that this is the place to send me mail....I have a friend who bought a ThinkPad 360 series...there are several problems, however. The person who bought it, bought it used. The reason it was sold used is because the guy that had it before, forgot the password to the hard drive. IBM keeps telling us that the hard drive is now a WONDERFUL paperweight, but being a Microcomputer Specialist in the military, I am not apt to believe it. There has got to be something out there that will allow us to take this password off of this hard drive...and I looking for it....canna go through IBM, as they want us to buy a new hard drive (go fig, right?). Any help that you can give me will be appreciated. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 11 09:47:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10203; Mon, 11 Sep 95 09:47:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12148; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:33:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:33:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12138; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:33:49 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id GAA12709; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 06:33:37 -0700 Message-Id: <199509111333.GAA12709@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 95 06:13:18 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: dwhite@shadow.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: recharing and batteries] On Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:43:09 -0400 (EDT) you wrote: >On Sun, 10 Sep 1995, Roger J. Buffington wrote: > >> Note that if you buy the new portable charger it does not charge the >> Thinkpad while the 'pad is turned on. And you replied that yours... >>And is _definately_charging_. Interesting. We've all discussed this before. Because my 755Cs is definitely NOT charging while it is on. It does charge when I power down if I leave it plugged in. Someone said I maybe needed a BIOS upgrade. Couldn't find it on Compuserve though... ----------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington USC Law, Class of '97 AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail |Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, | |in whole or in part. Copyright, 1995. License to distribute this post is | |available to Microsoft for $1,000. Posting without permission constitutes | |an agreement to these terms. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 11 09:52:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10509; Mon, 11 Sep 95 09:52:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12532; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:37:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:37:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12522; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:37:53 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.32] (mac32.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA13511; Mon, 11 Sep 95 09:37:44 EDT Message-Id: <9509111337.AA13511@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:51:11 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: video > although I suggest installing fixpak #5 at a minimum, >and the newer video drivers as well: > > ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/mobiles/755wd101.exe Has anybody tried these drivers under warp on a 750 series? There was some question as to whether this file was 755 specific. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 11 10:03:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11385; Mon, 11 Sep 95 10:03:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13588; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:51:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:51:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.ucsd.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13574; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:51:08 -0400 Received: from conic.UUCP by mail.ucsd.edu; id GAA03606 sendmail 8.6.12/UCSD-2.2-sun via UUCP Mon, 11 Sep 1995 06:50:59 -0700 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <199509111350.GAA03606@mail.ucsd.edu> Received: from engineering/tomf by conic.loral.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.31 93.10.18) id 7840 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 06:43:55 PST 8 PDT From: TOMF@conic.loral.com (Tom Franklin Tom Franklin) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 06:43:54 +0000 Subject: IBM's Win-95 Support Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Organization: Loral Conic/Terracom, San Diego, CA 92123 (619) 279-0411 I found a site that will be offering Win-95 integration disks today. This is IBM's attempt at Win-95 support. Anyone who has been trying to get Win-95 running should get this disk. http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tpw95.html From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 11 11:19:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17786; Mon, 11 Sep 95 11:19:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20755; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 11:07:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 11:07:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20745; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 11:07:46 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA27175; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 11:03:18 -0400 Message-Id: <9509111503.AA27175@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Re: IBM's Win-95 Support To: TOMF@conic.loral.com (Tom Franklin Tom Franklin) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 11:03:18 -0400 (EDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199509111350.GAA03606@mail.ucsd.edu> from "Tom Franklin Tom Franklin" at Sep 11, 95 06:43:54 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text > I found a site that will be offering Win-95 integration disks today. > This is IBM's attempt at Win-95 support. Anyone who has > been trying to get Win-95 running should get this disk. Interesting. This page has been around for a while, but as of at least Friday the 8th, they'd been listing the availability date as 9/25/95. Anyone know in what way the System Disk (sytpe130.exe) has been updated? I notice that it was modified on Sept 7th on ftp.pcco.ibm.com:/pub/mobiles, but haven't downloaded it to compare against the copy I got in mid-August. Also of potential interest is: http://watson.mbb.sfu.ca/software/software.html#thinkpad755 -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 11 11:59:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21206; Mon, 11 Sep 95 11:59:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25067; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 11:52:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 11:52:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from balder.ssds.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25057; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 11:52:35 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by balder.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) id JAA27022; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:52:21 -0600 Received: from denver(134.127.16.1) by balder via smap (V1.3) id sma027011; Mon Sep 11 09:52:15 1995 Received: from freke.ssds.com (rem_den29.ssds.com [134.127.122.29]) by denver.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) with SMTP id JAA16223; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:52:10 -0600 Message-Id: <199509111552.JAA16223@denver.ssds.com> X-Sender: cds@sanjose.ssds.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 10:47:22 -0500 To: Don Whiteside , Paul Rubin From: Chris Swanson Subject: Re: great deal on TP disks (if it's true) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Greetings, Could someone please send me that phone number as well? Regards, -=Chris At 21.57 95-09-10 -0400, Don Whiteside wrote: >On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Paul Rubin wrote: > >> Kahlon Inc. (a Klingon-owned firm?) in Yorba Linda (home of >> the Nixon Library, hmmm...) advertises IBM Thinkpad hard >> drives "with removable case and installation instructions", >> for $165/395/495/705/695 for 170, 340, 540, 720, and 810 meg >> respectively. The last is probably a typo since the 810 is >> not likely to cost less than the 720. > >Saw this and the response saying the 810 is indeed cheaper, could someone >please post the phone number so I don't have to spend $3 for a Computer >Shopper for this one tidbit...? Also, they take MC/Visa? Do I need an >order number? (I wouldn't mind an 810 w/ case so I can put FreeBSD on my >current 510 and Windork on my 810) > >========================================================================= > Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science > Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 > GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ > "The universe is not in the habit of giving up > explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton >========================================================================= > > > / Chris Swanson ____/ ____/ ___ / ____/ Engineer ____ / ____ / /__/ / ____ / 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd #993 _______/ _______/ _______/ _______/ Bloomington, MN 55473 business driven technology solutions. (612) 921-2392 FAX (612) 921-2395 Um Yah Yah! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 11 12:03:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21496; Mon, 11 Sep 95 12:03:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24647; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 11:49:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 11:49:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mba.cba.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24633; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 11:49:08 -0400 Received: (from sean@localhost) by mba.cba.uiuc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA06327 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:50:19 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199509111450.JAA06327@mba.cba.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: recharing and batteries To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:50:19 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu In-Reply-To: <9509091137.AA06097@nile.gnat.com> from "Robert Dewar" at Sep 9, 95 07:37:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Nicad batteries loose their charge pretty rapidly outside the machine if not > in use. Li-On's are MUCH better in this respect, I see them still at 95% > after two weeks, have not tried longer. I've had Li-On out of my machine for over two months with very little loss of charge. It's amazing... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 11 12:14:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21947; Mon, 11 Sep 95 12:14:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26481; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:06:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:06:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26471; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:06:15 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA00918; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:06:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:06:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Kahlon phone number Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 22:27:58 -0700 From: Paul Rubin To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, vwayland@csn.net Subject: Re: great deal on TP disks (if it's true) OK. I called the vendor (Kahlon Inc., 1-800-938-5060) and they said the prices were correct; the 810 meg disk is cheaper than the 720 meg disk because it is on "special". The disks are all refurbs. However, even if one doesn't believe in refurb disks, the 170 meg unit seems like a cheap way to get a caddy to re-use. The vendor says that all the different sizes are in stock. Of course I have no way to know if that is really true, but they didn't sound like they were messing with me. I still haven't ordered a Thinkpad so am holding off buying a disk cartridge too. But I may order a 170 meg cartridge as soon as I get a Thinkpad so that I'll have something to put my 1 gig drive into once those become available. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 11 12:59:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26379; Mon, 11 Sep 95 12:59:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00354; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:50:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:50:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mlfire.ml.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00336; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:50:07 -0400 Received: from ml.com ([146.125.4.24]) by mlfire.ml.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA19014 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:52:41 -0400 Received: from pport2.firsol.ml.com (pport2.firsol.ml.com [146.125.3.201]) by ml.com (8.6.12/8.6.3) with SMTP id MAA28966 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:49:28 -0400 Received: by pport2.firsol.ml.com (5.x/SMI-4.1) id AA11259; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:49:27 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:49:27 -0400 From: lyip@firsol.ml.com (Luis Yip) Message-Id: <9509111649.AA11259@pport2.firsol.ml.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: DOCK I scsi disk installation X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Hi everyone, I just purchased a used dosk I with a cdrom drive already installed. Is there anyway to install an internal/external scsi disk to this dock??? What kind of software drivers and cables are needed??? thanks -Luis From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 12 00:01:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24775; Tue, 12 Sep 95 00:01:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10093; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 23:47:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 23:47:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10081; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 23:47:05 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id DAA84382 for < tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 03:47:01 GMT Message-Id: <199509120347.DAA84382@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip168-204.sy.au.ibm.net(129.37.168.204) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaTJsDM2; Tue Sep 12 03:46:56 1995 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 95 13:42:00 EDT From: jgcrawf@ibm.net (Jack Crawford) Reply-To: (Jack Crawford) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail v1.1 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Subject: Introduction After lurking here for a few months, I thought it was about time that I introduced myself and my TP. I work in a large government business in Australia and use my TP 750Cs as my main computer both at work and home. I mainly use standard business applications - wordprocessing, database, communications, utilities etc. I am an OS/2 devotee and have run 2.0, 2.1 and now Warp on my 750Cs over the past couple of years. I recently acquired a 32mb DRAM card but I wouldn't say that the system is really flying. I will probably upgrade my TP in the next 12/18 months to one of the new Pentium or PowerPC models (assuming that OS/2 for the PowerPC is a viable proposition). I have a Port Replicator (the one without the frills) and also use fax/modem (Banksia), SCSI (New Media) and Ethernet (3Com) PCMCIA cards. I have already got plenty of useful info from this mailing list and look forward to participating further. Regards Jack Crawford jgcrawf@ibm.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 12 04:49:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16621; Tue, 12 Sep 95 04:49:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25799; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 04:34:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 04:34:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25789; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 04:34:32 -0400 Received: from mailhost.hooked.net (bass.hooked.net [199.2.134.18]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA21307; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 01:33:41 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 01:33:41 -0700 Message-Id: <199509120833.BAA21307@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: TP's and heat (solution, kinda) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mine gets extremely hot, and I use it in bed all the time (am right now). I used to put a big hardcover book underneath it (a coffee table book of deserts, as it happens), but I just picked up a great accessory a few days ago. It's from the same company that makes the wetsuit, a thin, flat, hard laptop sized thing, with a foam wrist-rest glued to one side. Works great, it's light enough to take with you, and it was only 20 bucks at "The Good Guys" (average electronics type store). Recommended highly! ____________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 12 09:18:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07259; Tue, 12 Sep 95 09:18:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17995; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 09:04:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 09:04:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17984; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 09:04:13 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0121; Tue, 12 Sep 95 09:00:17 -0700 Message-Id: <9509121600.AA0121@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id F6F137F17D6F0A3885256235004754AB; Tue, 12 Sep 95 09:00:17 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 8 Sep 95 8:29:00 EDT Subject: Re: TP Error Codes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....Does anyone know where I can get an exhaustive list of error codes. Recently I have gotten errors 201 and 301. The manual that comes with the TP755 isn't very helpful...." ~~~~~~~~~~ Call tech support and ask them to fax you the error code pages from the tech ref. I may have a copy at home. If so, I'll get it to you next week. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 13 08:43:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13696; Wed, 13 Sep 95 08:43:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07334; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 08:14:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 08:14:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ub4b.eunet.be by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07306; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 08:14:48 -0400 Received: from gate.eurocontrol.be by ub4b.eunet.be (ub4b_07) id AA05245; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 14:17:02 +0200 Received: from hp817s2.mis.eurocontrol.be by gate.eurocontrol.be with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA173614774; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 14:19:34 +0200 Received: from MISSMTP1 (missmtp1.mis.eurocontrol.be) by hp817s2.mis.eurocontrol.be with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA082473728; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 14:02:09 +0200 Received: by MISSMTP1 with Microsoft Mail id <3056CA13@MISSMTP1>; Wed, 13 Sep 95 14:09:55 DST From: "PELLATT David, DED/2" To: TP750 Subject: Introduction - Dave Pellatt Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 14:05:00 DST Message-Id: <3056CA13@MISSMTP1> Encoding: 23 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Hi, I have a TP755CX, 540MB HD, 16MB RAM. If anyone can help me out, I'd be most grateful. My machine came pre-installed with Windows and Warp but on a single DOS partition. I've created an HPFS partition (drive D:) and installed Warp (from floppy) onto this. All the Thinkpad utility diskettes install ok, but trying to install the Video drivers (from the diskette created by the Diskette Factory) bombs out complaining that it can't "open or create archive file". IBM are looking into it but haven't got an answer yet, so I'm left having to use a VGA screen if I want to use Warp. I still have the pre-installed copy of Warp on the DOS partition, which includes the correct graphics drivers. Could I easily copy part of the graphics set-up from one to the other ??? If so, which files do I need ? or will this screw everything up ? Thanks in advance, Dave Pellatt From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 13 08:45:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13866; Wed, 13 Sep 95 08:45:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08143; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 08:26:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 08:26:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ub4b.eunet.be by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08109; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 08:25:56 -0400 Received: from gate.eurocontrol.be by ub4b.eunet.be (ub4b_07) id AA06161; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 14:28:03 +0200 Received: from hp817s2.mis.eurocontrol.be by gate.eurocontrol.be with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA172024151; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 14:09:12 +0200 Received: from MISSMTP1 (missmtp1.mis.eurocontrol.be) by hp817s2.mis.eurocontrol.be with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA082473728; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 14:02:09 +0200 Received: by MISSMTP1 with Microsoft Mail id <3056CA13@MISSMTP1>; Wed, 13 Sep 95 14:09:55 DST From: "PELLATT David, DED/2" To: TP750 Subject: Introduction - Dave Pellatt Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 14:05:00 DST Message-Id: <3056CA13@MISSMTP1> Encoding: 23 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Hi, I have a TP755CX, 540MB HD, 16MB RAM. If anyone can help me out, I'd be most grateful. My machine came pre-installed with Windows and Warp but on a single DOS partition. I've created an HPFS partition (drive D:) and installed Warp (from floppy) onto this. All the Thinkpad utility diskettes install ok, but trying to install the Video drivers (from the diskette created by the Diskette Factory) bombs out complaining that it can't "open or create archive file". IBM are looking into it but haven't got an answer yet, so I'm left having to use a VGA screen if I want to use Warp. I still have the pre-installed copy of Warp on the DOS partition, which includes the correct graphics drivers. Could I easily copy part of the graphics set-up from one to the other ??? If so, which files do I need ? or will this screw everything up ? Thanks in advance, Dave Pellatt From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 13 09:54:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18195; Wed, 13 Sep 95 09:54:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14069; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 09:31:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 09:30:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14037; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 09:30:56 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id GAA21726; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 06:30:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199509131330.GAA21726@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 06:33:47 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: PELLATTD@HARDED1.MIS.EUROCONTROL.BE, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Introduction - Dave Pellatt On Wed, 13 Sep 95 14:05:00 DST you wrote: n HPFS partition (drive D:) and installed Warp >(from floppy) onto this. All the Thinkpad utility diskettes install ok, but >trying to install the Video drivers (from the diskette created by the >Diskette Factory)> Hi Dave. I'm a long time user of Warp on my TP 755Cs dinosaur. Question for you: I thought Warp users were supposed to use the video drivers with Warp, rather than the ones for the Thinkpad. No? If not, what's the difference? Thanks! ----------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington USC Law, Class of '97 ----------------------------- AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail | "If you run with wolves, howl like them." Old English proverb From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 13 11:29:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23158; Wed, 13 Sep 95 11:29:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22405; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 11:07:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 11:07:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22385; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 11:07:03 -0400 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA10509; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 11:09:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 11:09:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: "PELLATT David, DED/2" Cc: TP750 Subject: Re: Introduction - Dave Pellatt In-Reply-To: <3056CA13@MISSMTP1> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Sep 1995, PELLATT David, DED/2 wrote: > > My machine came pre-installed with Windows and Warp but on a single DOS > partition. I've created an HPFS partition (drive D:) and installed Warp > (from floppy) onto this. All the Thinkpad utility diskettes install ok, but What's the objective here? If you would just rather be on HPFS (and using your entire drive) perhaps it would be best for you to seek out a copy of Partition Magic and just _convert_ the partition to HPFS. I'm sure someone here has a copy of a mailing - I get them on every other tuesday. Looks like a neat tool, but I'd find someone to go in with on the purchase - WAY too expensive for a one-time use product... (~$60) ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ #tar -cvf /* /dev/tape, how goddam hard is that?? ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 13 13:56:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06324; Wed, 13 Sep 95 13:56:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06353; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 13:40:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 13:40:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06323; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 13:40:37 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA31409; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 12:45:23 -0400 Message-Id: <9509131645.AA31409@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Value of PartitionMagic (was Re: Introduction - Dave Pellatt) To: dwhite@shadow.net (Don Whiteside) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 12:45:23 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "Don Whiteside" at Sep 13, 95 11:09:12 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Don Whiteside wrote: > Looks like a neat tool, but I'd find someone to go in with on the > purchase - WAY too expensive for a one-time use product... (~$60) I guess it's a matter of how one values that "one-time use". I've used PM once to reorganize and resize the partitions on my desktop system in order to make room for installing Win95. I was able to move freespace from HPFS partitions to FAT partitions, move space out of ext/logical partitions to increase my small DOS primary partition, etc. I moved or modified every partition on a pair of 420M disks. Basically, I was able to do in half an evening what would have otherwise taken the entire weekend and then some if I'd done the old system of backup, repartition, pray, and restore. (I *did* do a backup though) I place the value of my weekends at much more than $60, so even if I never use PartitionMagic again, I feel I got more than my money's worth. Additionally, having PM around changes how you view adjusting partition sizes. I never get it perfectly right the first time out with any new disk drive; used to be I just lived with it 'til I had time. Now it's very easy to move things around if you find one partition is getting a little full and you have another partition on that disk which has excess free space. A few minutes with PM and everything's set. I expect to use it at least once more when I get around to wiping WarpConnect >from my desktop system. I will be able to easily delete those partitions and fold them into the partitions I use under Win95. (Lest this dissolve into an OS-war, which does not belong here, let me just say that despite all of Warp's good points, FOR MY SPECIFIC USES, Win95 does a better job; if someone wants me to go into the specific details, email me directly) -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 13 15:34:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12407; Wed, 13 Sep 95 15:34:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16142; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 15:03:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 15:03:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from grolsch.cs.ubc.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16128; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 15:03:45 -0400 Received: (from ean@localhost) by grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (8.6.10/8.6.9) id MAA17890 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 12:03:02 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=ca/ADMD=telecom.canada/C=ca/; Relayed; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 22:59:44 UTC-0700 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 22:59:44 UTC-0700 X400-Originator: goldberg@cs.ubc.ca X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=ca/ADMD=telecom.canada/C=ca/;950912225944] Content-Identifier: 5840 From: "Murray W. Goldberg" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <"5840*goldberg@cs.ubc.ca"@MHS> Subject: TP and Freebsd Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Ean X.400 to MIME gateway) Hi. A question for you freebsd users out there. I've installed freebsd on my thinkpad 360C. I've gotten the keyboard working fine with the following config lines: device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint options "PCVT_FREEBSD=210" # pcvt running on FreeBSD 2.1 options "PCVT_SCANSET=2" The problem is that my trackpoint mouse is never recognized. I have the following line in the kernel config file: device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmint r The psm0 device is probed and it is claimed that "psm0: not found at 0x60". Probing it manually (at boot -c) returns 0. According to my documentation, this truely is a ps/2 style mouse at irq 12 and port 0x60. Did any of you find the same thing? Any advice? I appreciate your help. I would like to run X (difficult without a mouse)! Murray From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 13 15:38:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12420; Wed, 13 Sep 95 15:38:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18011; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 15:22:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 15:22:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from next.lbs.lon.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17997; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 15:22:45 -0400 Received: by next.lbs.lon.ac.uk (NX5.67e/NeXT-1.0(KJW-19Apr90)) id AA27815; Wed, 13 Sep 95 20:21:09 +0100 Message-Id: <9509131921.AA27815@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ivo Welch Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 19:21:09 GMT To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Hi: I just got my TP 755CX. Looks very nice so far. I am planning to install NeXTStep over the weekend. We will see. [0] Apparently noone makes a desktop receptor for Thinkpad caddies. Some members of this list have looked and failed to find such. [1] Is there a Thinkpad-mode compatible IR receptor for desktops for sale anywhere? (i.e., the type that can transfer about 1MBit/sec). [2] How much disk space is OS/2-Warp taking (it ships with the 755CX)? Is there a way to cleanly remove it? [3] There appears to be a TCP/IP directory on the disk, but I cannot figure out how to access/use it. I want to hook up a pocket connector. Anybody know how? I will summarize any positive responses later to the group. Regards, /ivo welch From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 13 19:16:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29788; Wed, 13 Sep 95 19:16:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09403; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 18:58:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 18:58:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09393; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 18:58:05 -0400 Received: from localhost by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id SAA18668; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 18:58:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199509132258.SAA18668@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: "Murray W. Goldberg" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP and Freebsd In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 12 Sep 1995 22:59:44 PDT." <"5840*goldberg@cs.ubc.ca"@MHS> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 18:57:56 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > Hi. A question for you freebsd users out there. I've installed freebsd on my > thinkpad 360C. [...] > The problem is that my trackpoint mouse is never recognized. I have yet to find a*BSD mouse driver that recognizes the trackpoint. The easiest fix is to hack the mouse driver to always assume that the trackpoint is there, instead of trying to probe it. Keith Moore From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 13 22:04:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13015; Wed, 13 Sep 95 22:04:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA21233; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 21:55:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 21:55:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA21194; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 21:55:03 -0400 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA08694; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 21:59:54 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 21:59:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Keith Moore Cc: "Murray W. Goldberg" , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP and Freebsd In-Reply-To: <199509132258.SAA18668@wilma.cs.utk.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Sep 1995, Keith Moore wrote: > > Hi. A question for you freebsd users out there. I've installed freebsd on my > > thinkpad 360C. [...] > > The problem is that my trackpoint mouse is never recognized. > > I have yet to find a*BSD mouse driver that recognizes the trackpoint. > The easiest fix is to hack the mouse driver to always assume that the > trackpoint is there, instead of trying to probe it. There has been discussion of this on the FreeBSD mailing list in the not so distant past. Send a missive off to questions@freebsd.org, there are a few people there with FreeBSD on 'Pad experience, and I'm sure a few mentioned getting the trackpoint to work. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ #tar -cvf /* /dev/tape, how goddam hard is that?? ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 13 22:59:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16692; Wed, 13 Sep 95 22:59:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25107; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 22:48:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 22:48:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kalypso.cybercom.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25093; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 22:48:33 -0400 Received: from mail.cybercom.net (dial2-18.cybercom.net [205.198.81.82]) by kalypso.cybercom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA23927 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 22:44:50 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 22:44:50 -0400 Message-Id: <199509140244.WAA23927@kalypso.cybercom.net> X-Sender: dchan@mail.cybercom.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: Question of someone w/ Dock II I know this may be a lot..but would anyone try installing a Caviar (Western Digital) drive into their Thinkpad Dock II? I'm now convinced there's a hardware problem w/ my dock ii...but ibm refuses to acknowledge that it exists. Basically, I can't install ANY IDE drives and get them recognized by the thinkpad. -- ***************************************************************************** NIVEN: "There exist other minds that think as you do" Corollary: "The gene-tampered turkey sitting next to you isn't necessarily one of them" Derek Chan (chan4@fas.harvard.edu, dchan@cybercom.net) ***************************************************************************** From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 14 00:24:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23005; Thu, 14 Sep 95 00:24:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01721; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 00:16:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 00:16:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01711; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 00:16:21 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22717; Thu, 14 Sep 95 00:16:00 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0090; Thu, 14 Sep 95 00:15:37 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Sep 95 00:15:37 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9509140415.AA0090@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: dchan@cybercom.net Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Wed, 13 Sep 1995 22:44:50 -0400 from "Derek V. Chan" Subject: Question of someone w/ Dock II Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 22:44:50 -0400 From: "Derek V. Chan" I know this may be a lot..but would anyone try installing a Caviar (Western Digital) drive into their Thinkpad Dock II? I'm now convinced there's a hardware problem w/ my dock ii...but ibm refuses to acknowledge that it exists. Basically, I can't install ANY IDE drives and get them recognized by the thinkpad. I installed a 1620 MB Caviar into my Dock II last week. It works fine, is recognized by OS/2 and Linux. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 14 09:54:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28487; Thu, 14 Sep 95 09:54:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17629; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 09:36:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 09:35:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ub4b.eunet.be by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17595; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 09:35:53 -0400 Received: from gate.eurocontrol.be by ub4b.eunet.be (ub4b_07) id AA04531; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 15:38:00 +0200 Received: from hp817s2.mis.eurocontrol.be by gate.eurocontrol.be with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA011106030; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 15:40:31 +0200 Received: from MISSMTP1 (missmtp1.mis.eurocontrol.be) by hp817s2.mis.eurocontrol.be with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA280915624; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 15:33:44 +0200 Received: by MISSMTP1 with Microsoft Mail id <30582FA9@MISSMTP1>; Thu, 14 Sep 95 15:35:37 DST From: "PELLATT David, DED/2" To: TP750 Subject: TP755 MWave DSP & hard drive options... Date: Thu, 14 Sep 95 15:35:00 DST Message-Id: <30582FA9@MISSMTP1> Encoding: 14 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Q1. Anyone know when 28.8K modem software will be available ? Q2. Is there any way to improve the sound quality of DOS games ? I'm enabling Soundblaster support, on the MWave DSP, with MWGAMES ON but the sound is very quiet and rather muffled. Is that as good as it gets or have I missed something (probably) ??? Q3. Is there a possibility to replace the floppy drive with a hard drive unit (i.e. can I have two hard drives) ? Thanks, Dave Pellatt From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 14 13:47:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17395; Thu, 14 Sep 95 13:47:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09803; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 13:19:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 13:19:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mwunix.mitre.org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09793; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 13:19:27 -0400 Received: from cyclone.mitre.org (cyclone.mitre.org [128.29.86.13]) by mwunix.mitre.org (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id NAA16606 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 13:19:09 -0400 Received: from dhite-pc.mitre.org by cyclone.mitre.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18556; Thu, 14 Sep 95 13:19:24 EDT Message-Id: <9509141719.AA18556@cyclone.mitre.org> X-Sender: dhite@cyclone X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 13:17:53 -0400 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: David Hite Subject: Why not the long cord? I just opened the box containing one of the small, lightweight AC adapters for the 755, and in it there was an "instruction manual", actually one small sheet of paper, with a picture of the adapter, a picture of a long AC cord, and a picture of the short AC cord that comes with the adapter. There was one of those circles with a slant thru it (indicating "don't do this") printed over the picture of the long AC cord. Anybody know why you shouldn't use a long cord with the AC adapter? Not that I particularly want to, but I'm curious as to why they'd go to the trouble to tell you not to do it. David From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 14 14:39:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22430; Thu, 14 Sep 95 14:39:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14597; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 14:23:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 14:23:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blackhole.fultech.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14578; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 14:23:33 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by blackhole.fultech.com (8.6.7/8.6.6) id OAA00655 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 14:21:52 -0400 Received: from jade.fultech.com(172.16.10.6) by internet via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma000652; Thu Sep 14 14:21:07 1995 Received: from omega.fultech.com by jade.fultech.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09024; Thu, 14 Sep 95 14:23:31 EDT Received: by omega.fultech.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10980; Thu, 14 Sep 95 14:23:31 EDT Date: Thu, 14 Sep 95 14:23:31 EDT From: scottn@fultech.com (Scott Newman) Message-Id: <9509141823.AA10980@omega.fultech.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: removing hibernation files I my 755CD is running Win95, upgraded from Win 3.11. I would like to remove the 25MB hibernation file from my disk because I don't use hibernation (I don't trust it) and I desparately need the disk space. When I select the "More..." dialogue in the Thinkpad Power utility, I see a button labelled "Enable Hibernation" amongst all of the other options. If I click on that button, I get told that I can enable hibernation while I have a PC card in use. It seems that the system does not see the hibernation file, so I had been hoping that by enabling hibernation, it would find the existing file. Can someone please recommend a way to get rid of the hibernation file? I would like to just delete it, but I am concerned that the file location is stored somewhere special and the system might write on the disk in that location, whether the file is there or not. Thanks very much, Scott From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 14 17:36:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09686; Thu, 14 Sep 95 17:36:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00731; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 17:09:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 17:09:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dill.lcs.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00721; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 17:09:49 -0400 From: Received: by dill.lcs.mit.edu; id AA05871; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 17:09:41 -0400 Message-Id: <9509142109.AA05871@dill.lcs.mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: dmoore@dill.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Selling 16 MB for TP755 - what's reasonable price? Date: Thu, 14 Sep 95 17:09:41 -0400 X-Mts: smtp Could I get some honest opinions on what is a reasonable price to ask for my Kingston 16 MB memory module? (fits under the disk drive compartment) It's used, works fine. Thanks, -Drew (not reading the group - please email) dmoore@dill.lcs.mit.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 14 18:23:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12430; Thu, 14 Sep 95 18:23:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06029; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 18:12:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 18:11:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06012; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 18:11:57 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA29285; Thu, 14 Sep 95 18:12:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Sep 95 18:12:09 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509142212.AA29285@nile.gnat.com> To: dmoore@dill.lcs.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Selling 16 MB for TP755 - what's reasonable price? 16MB cards can be purchased new for about $700, maybe a bit cheaper if you shop around. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 14 18:28:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12623; Thu, 14 Sep 95 18:28:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06644; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 18:20:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 18:20:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mik.uky.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06615; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 18:20:04 -0400 Received: from nx55.mik.uky.edu by mik.uky.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA22844; Thu, 14 Sep 95 18:19:55 -0400 From: rodney d slone Message-Id: <9509142219.AA22844@mik.uky.edu> Received: by nx55.mik.uky.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0X) id AA11321; Thu, 14 Sep 95 18:19:52 -0400 Subject: Re: removing hibernation files To: scottn@fultech.com (Scott Newman) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 18:19:49 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9509141823.AA10980@omega.fultech.com> from "Scott Newman" at Sep 14, 95 02:23:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text "Scott Newman wrote the following ..." > >I my 755CD is running Win95, upgraded from Win 3.11. I would like to remove run Linux :) >the 25MB hibernation file from my disk because I don't use hibernation (I >don't trust it) and I desparately need the disk space. When I select the >"More..." dialogue in the Thinkpad Power utility, I see a button labelled >"Enable Hibernation" amongst all of the other options. If I click on that >button, I get told that I can enable hibernation while I have a PC card in >use. It seems that the system does not see the hibernation file, so I had >been hoping that by enabling hibernation, it would find the existing file. It is really easy to find the file using windoze 3.11 filemangler. Just make sure you are looking at all files including hidden and system files (etc) The file is something like pm_hiber.bin and is located in c:\ The only problem that you might have is that the computer recreates the file each time it is booted up. > >Can someone please recommend a way to get rid of the hibernation file? I >would like to just delete it, but I am concerned that the file location is >stored somewhere special and the system might write on the disk in that >location, whether the file is there or not. You can use the space easily if you can keep the file off the disk. > >Thanks very much, > >Scott > Later, -- Rodney Daryl Slone | "Grounds are pretty common." - me Electrical Engineering Senior | Nail here [] for a new monitor. University of Kentucky / 94.3% of all statistics are 87% worthless. e-mail: rdslon01@mik.uky.edu | Xerox never comes up with anything original. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 14 19:09:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16611; Thu, 14 Sep 95 19:09:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09720; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 19:02:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 19:02:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mik.uky.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09703; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 19:02:45 -0400 Received: from nx55.mik.uky.edu by mik.uky.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA25888; Thu, 14 Sep 95 19:02:41 -0400 From: rodney d slone Message-Id: <9509142302.AA25888@mik.uky.edu> Received: by nx55.mik.uky.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0X) id AA11489; Thu, 14 Sep 95 19:02:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Sep 95 19:02:41 -0400 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.1.1 5/02/90) To: dmoore@dill.lcs.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Selling 16 MB for TP755 - what's reasonable price? Robert Dewar wrote: >16MB cards can be purchased new for about $700, maybe a bit cheaper if >you shop around. I bought mine for 645 (this includes shipping second day fed express and all other prices) I would suggest around 550 I guess. -- Rodney Daryl Slone | "Grounds are pretty common." - me Electrical Engineering Senior | Nail here [] for a new monitor. University of Kentucky / 94.3% of all statistics are 87% worthless. e-mail: rdslon01@mik.uky.edu | Xerox never comes up with anything original. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 14 20:12:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22090; Thu, 14 Sep 95 20:12:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13147; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:06:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:06:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kalypso.cybercom.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13133; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:06:35 -0400 Received: from mail.cybercom.net (dial2-5.cybercom.net [205.198.81.69]) by kalypso.cybercom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA04995; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:02:45 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:02:45 -0400 Message-Id: <199509150002.UAA04995@kalypso.cybercom.net> X-Sender: dchan@mail.cybercom.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Chris Hanson From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: Re: Question of someone w/ Dock II Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Whoops...sorry..forgot...more questions... I just wrote >Hmmm..what kind of configuration do you have and what jumper setting (dual >master/slave, etc...) on the caviar did you use? I'm using an IBM >Thinkpad 750C w/ the dock ii...latest system revision... I'm also using the caviar 1280....does the thinkpad just recognize the large hard drive w/out a bios upgrade? i.e. you just plug in the hd and play? thanks. -- ***************************************************************************** NIVEN: "There exist other minds that think as you do" Corollary: "The gene-tampered turkey sitting next to you isn't necessarily one of them" Derek Chan (chan4@fas.harvard.edu, dchan@cybercom.net) ***************************************************************************** From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 14 20:13:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22098; Thu, 14 Sep 95 20:13:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13048; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:05:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:05:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kalypso.cybercom.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13021; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:05:18 -0400 Received: from mail.cybercom.net (dial2-5.cybercom.net [205.198.81.69]) by kalypso.cybercom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA04933; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:01:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:01:06 -0400 Message-Id: <199509150001.UAA04933@kalypso.cybercom.net> X-Sender: dchan@mail.cybercom.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Chris Hanson From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: Re: Question of someone w/ Dock II Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU At 12:15 AM 9/14/95 -0400, you wrote: > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 22:44:50 -0400 > From: "Derek V. Chan" > > I know this may be a lot..but would anyone try installing a Caviar (Western > Digital) drive into their Thinkpad Dock II? I'm now convinced there's a > hardware problem w/ my dock ii...but ibm refuses to acknowledge that it > exists. Basically, I can't install ANY IDE drives and get them recognized > by the thinkpad. > >I installed a 1620 MB Caviar into my Dock II last week. It works >fine, is recognized by OS/2 and Linux. > Hmmm..what kind of configuration do you have and what jumper setting (dual master/slave, etc...) on the caviar did you use? I'm using an IBM Thinkpad 750C w/ the dock ii...latest system revision... -- ***************************************************************************** NIVEN: "There exist other minds that think as you do" Corollary: "The gene-tampered turkey sitting next to you isn't necessarily one of them" Derek Chan (chan4@fas.harvard.edu, dchan@cybercom.net) ***************************************************************************** From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 14 20:16:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22223; Thu, 14 Sep 95 20:16:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13425; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:11:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:11:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13405; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:11:17 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Sep 95 20:10 EDT From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: dchan@cybercom.net Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:02:45 -0400 from "Derek V. Chan" Subject: Question of someone w/ Dock II Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:02:45 -0400 From: "Derek V. Chan" >Hmmm..what kind of configuration do you have and what jumper setting (dual >master/slave, etc...) on the caviar did you use? I'm using an IBM >Thinkpad 750C w/ the dock ii...latest system revision... I set up the caviar as dual slave; I've got a 755C. I'm also using the caviar 1280....does the thinkpad just recognize the large hard drive w/out a bios upgrade? i.e. you just plug in the hd and play? I am running BIOS 1.15, which is pretty recent -- I think some of the older BIOS versions won't recognize EIDE drives. With this configuration, I just set the jumper on the caviar to dual slave, plugged in the drive, and rebooted -- and the drive was recognized. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 14 20:22:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22425; Thu, 14 Sep 95 20:22:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13757; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:16:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:16:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pointer.netpoint.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13737; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:16:36 -0400 Received: from mailhub.netpoint.net (ix-mia4-01.ix.netcom.com [199.183.196.129]) by pointer.netpoint.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA01330 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:14:27 -0400 Message-Id: <199509150014.UAA01330@pointer.netpoint.net> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.03) From: Bill Schwartz To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:16:28 EST Reply-To: Bill Schwartz Subject: Dram Cards Good price for a 16meg dram card is $625.00. I am using one in a 755ce running warp. It is a MPM card and is handled by a local exporter. If anybody needs more information about the cards e-mail me for contact information. Bill HIGH PERFORMANCE CARTRIDGES INC PO BOX 545890 SURFSIDE, FL. 33154 Fax 1-305-864-7367 URL: http://www.netpoint.net/hpcart/hpcart.html This message is printed with 100% recycable photons From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 14 22:05:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28443; Thu, 14 Sep 95 22:05:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA21093; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 21:58:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 21:58:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from inforamp.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA21080; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 21:58:05 -0400 Received: from mail.inforamp.net (ts8-05) by inforamp.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA24982; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 21:57:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 21:57:04 -0400 Message-Id: <9509150157.AA24982@inforamp.net> X-Sender: plexxus@inforamp.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: ivo@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk From: plexxus@inforamp.net (John Allman) Subject: Re: IRDA data transfer (AirPort) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >To: Ivo Welch >From: plexxus@inforamp.net (John Allman) >Subject: Re: IRDA data transfer > >Ivo Welch asked: >> >>[1] Is there a Thinkpad-mode compatible IR receptor for desktops for sale >>anywhere? (i.e., the type that can transfer about 1MBit/sec). >> >Yes. Adaptec has a new product, the name of which escapesme at the moment, that will do this. There are two pieces available. One conects to the serial port of non Infra red port equipped machines. (Which you do not require.) The second connects to your desktop system's serial port and has a short (maybe 3 foot or 1 metre) cable. The software supplied is Lap-Link like in it's functionallity. My guess is that the unit you need is under US$100.00. > >If you need more details, send me a note and I will dig out the data sheet. (Which is at the office and I am not.) Any decent reseller should be able to obtain this for you. > >John > I found the data sheet to day. The product is the Adaptec AirPort. John ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | John Allman |Creativity is the sudden cessation | | Plexxus Technologies Inc. |of stupidity. - Edwin Land | | Markham (Toronto), Ontario | | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 15 04:14:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22200; Fri, 15 Sep 95 04:14:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA15622; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 04:00:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 04:00:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA15591; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 04:00:02 -0400 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 09:59:47 +0200 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Fri, 15 Sep 95 09:59:46 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 95 09:59:46 +0200 Message-Id: <9509150759.AA19894@octave.chorus.fr> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Selling 16 MB for TP755 - what's reasonable price? > > 16MB cards can be purchased new for about $700, maybe a bit cheaper if > you shop around. > I've seen some ads in PC Magazine at $679 and even $599. -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 15 07:24:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29249; Fri, 15 Sep 95 07:24:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04033; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 07:11:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 07:11:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from iehpc.ihosteng.priv.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04020; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 07:11:22 -0400 Received: (from ivarh@localhost) by iehpc.ihosteng.priv.no (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA16760; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:11:01 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:10:59 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Ivar E. Hosteng" To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: PCMCIA trouble Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a 755CX machine with the thelepony kit installed. I also have a PCMCIA GSM (Cellular) modem card. What I want is to get the two modems and the internal serial port working at the same time under OS/2. I am unable to get the PCMCIA modem to work on a interrupt other than 3 or 4 under OS/2. Under linux it works great under linux on interrupt 9,11 or 15. I have tried altering the file autoconf.ini to set the port and irq to 3E8 and 9 without sucess. Is there any way top get the autoconfig driver to configure the PCMCIA modem on a IRQ other that 4 or 3? Regards, Ivar E. hosteng email: ivar@ihosten.priv.no From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 15 09:18:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07361; Fri, 15 Sep 95 09:18:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07431; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:19:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:19:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gps.leeds.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07415; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:18:47 -0400 Received: (from mes4jcc@localhost) by gps.leeds.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA07146 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:18:12 +0100 From: J C Cummings Message-Id: <199509151218.NAA07146@gps.leeds.ac.uk> Subject: AC Adapter NA/UK To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:18:11 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there, I own a TP750, I bought it in North America, and am (for the next 3 years at least) using it in the UK for my PhD. I've just been using a little plastic plug-adapter to use it plugged in, since I know that the IBM Universal Adapter does the power change for me. However, the little plastic adapter that changes the shape of the plug, accidentally got broken last night. So what I'm wondering is, while I'll still pop out to a store and by one of these adapters, whether it is possible to get an individual cord which goes from the Universal Adapter to the AC outlet, which has a british plug on the end. This would save me buying, and breaking, NA/UK little plastic adapters, which are rather expensive for their function (at least here in Leeds). If anyone knows a part number for this part of the uk adapter, or has any IBM UK phone numbers (I.e. Helpline, Pc Direct,Sales, etc) or any other advice, if they could e-mail it to me I'd be most grateful. Many thanks, James Cummings mes4jcc@leeds.ac.uk From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 15 11:07:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11228; Fri, 15 Sep 95 11:07:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22665; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 10:50:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 10:50:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22646; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 10:50:27 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3482; Fri, 15 Sep 95 10:44:20 -0700 Message-Id: <9509151744.AA3482@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 25ABCF10086EC362852562380050DBDD; Fri, 15 Sep 95 10:44:20 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 15 Sep 95 10:46:13 EDT Subject: Re: AC Adapter NA/UK Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "...If anyone knows a part number for this part of the uk adapter, or has any IBM UK phone numbers (I.e. Helpline, Pc Direct,Sales, etc) or any other advice, if they could e-mail it to me I'd be most grateful...." ~~~~~~~~~~ yes, it is. the uk cord can be purchased from ibm in the uk (or so ibm in the us has told me). the part number you need is 25H2215. the master list of part numbers for all countries should ship in the box with the cord. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 15 13:18:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22284; Fri, 15 Sep 95 13:18:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07617; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:07:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:07:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from bonjour.cc.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07594; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:07:10 -0400 Received: by bonjour.cc.columbia.edu id AA23275 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for TP list ); Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:07:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:07:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Paulo Magalhaes X-Sender: pm119@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu To: TP list Subject: TP750Cs price Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I have a TP750Cs, 8Mb RAM, 340Mb HD, with an XJack 14.4 modem. I was thinking of upgrading to something a little better, and I have a friend who is interested in buying my computer. Now, the problem is that I don't know what a fair price is... Considering that the computer is about 18 months old and has had quite a bit of use, what do you people out there consider an honest price?... Many thanks for your help. -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 15 13:41:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23234; Fri, 15 Sep 95 13:41:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10186; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:32:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:32:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shrsys.hslc.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10152; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:32:27 -0400 Received: by shrsys.hslc.org (MX V4.1 AXP) id 307; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:25:50 EST Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:25:50 EST From: "Dennis J. Gormley" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: gormley@shrsys.hslc.org Message-Id: <009966F7.3CE7AAB6.307@shrsys.hslc.org> Subject: Disabling suspend mode on TP755CE Hi everyone! I have two questions which didn't seem to be addressed in my perusal of the user's guide: 1) Will the TP755CE go into suspend mode if it is operating while the AC power supply is connected? 2) If so, what is the technique for disabling suspend mode (other than hitting Fn-Fwhichever one it is)? Thanks! \ Dennis J. Gormley Tel: (215) 222-1532 \\ Operations Manager Fax: (215) 222-0416 \\\\ Health Sciences Libraries Consortium Int: gormley@hslc.org \\\\\\ 3600 Market Street, Suite 550 H S L C Philadelphia, PA 19104-2646 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 15 13:43:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23830; Fri, 15 Sep 95 13:43:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10229; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:33:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:33:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shrsys.hslc.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10207; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:33:02 -0400 Received: by shrsys.hslc.org (MX V4.1 AXP) id 334; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:29:05 EST Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:29:05 EST From: "Dennis J. Gormley" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: gormley@shrsys.hslc.org Message-Id: <009966F7.B157CCE1.334@shrsys.hslc.org> Subject: Mwave sound & Win95 Hi everybody! We seem to have installed Windows 95 on our TP755CEs with relativly little hassle, but the sound out of the speaker is distorted. The mwave modem functions work fine, but the Windows ta-da now sounds like the opening chords from one of the Yardbirds early releases! Are there new drivers for Win95, or is there a setting I have to change. Yes, I have tried turning the volume down! Thanks! \ Dennis J. Gormley Tel: (215) 222-1532 \\ Operations Manager Fax: (215) 222-0416 \\\\ Health Sciences Libraries Consortium Int: gormley@hslc.org \\\\\\ 3600 Market Street, Suite 550 H S L C Philadelphia, PA 19104-2646 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 15 14:40:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28123; Fri, 15 Sep 95 14:40:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15305; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 14:31:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 14:31:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mwunix.mitre.org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15273; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 14:31:37 -0400 Received: from cyclone.mitre.org (cyclone.mitre.org [128.29.86.13]) by mwunix.mitre.org (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id NAA09236; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:56:13 -0400 Received: from dhite-pc.mitre.org by cyclone.mitre.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11096; Fri, 15 Sep 95 13:56:29 EDT Message-Id: <9509151756.AA11096@cyclone.mitre.org> X-Sender: dhite@cyclone X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:54:54 -0400 To: "Dennis J. Gormley" From: David Hite Subject: Re: Mwave sound & Win95 Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >The mwave modem functions work fine, but the Windows ta-da now sounds like the >opening chords from one of the Yardbirds early releases! Hey, neat! Rather than fix yours, I'd like to break mine! But seriously, you probably need to update your MWave with the following files: mwd110-1.exe 755 MWave v1.10 for DOS - disk 1 of 2 (957493 bytes, 04-26-95) mwd110-2.exe 755 MWave v1.10 for DOS - disk 2 of 2 (560185 bytes, 04-25-95) mwave110.doc 755 MWave v1.10 Doc File-Read Me First! (10014 bytes, 06-15-95) mwavefix.exe Multi MWAVE Fix (MacroMedia,>16M,Sierra) (695893 bytes, 08-04-95) They're available at http://www.pc.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ftpfiles?action=list&dir=34 David Hite From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 15 14:41:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28130; Fri, 15 Sep 95 14:41:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15256; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 14:31:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 14:31:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mwunix.mitre.org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15231; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 14:31:30 -0400 Received: from cyclone.mitre.org (cyclone.mitre.org [128.29.86.13]) by mwunix.mitre.org (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id NAA09730; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:59:16 -0400 Received: from dhite-pc.mitre.org by cyclone.mitre.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11261; Fri, 15 Sep 95 13:59:32 EDT Message-Id: <9509151759.AA11261@cyclone.mitre.org> X-Sender: dhite@cyclone X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:57:57 -0400 To: "Dennis J. Gormley" From: David Hite Subject: Re: Mwave sound & Win95 Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Actually, I guess you need the Windows version, not the DOS version :) That would be mww110-1.exe 755 Mwave v1.10 for Windows - disk 1of7 (1302857 bytes, 04-25-95) mww110-2.exe 755 Mwave v1.10 for Windows - disk 2of7 (820698 bytes, 04-26-95) mww110-3.exe 755 Mwave v1.10 for Windows - disk 3of7 (1322879 bytes, 04-26-95) mww110-4.exe 755 MWave v1.10 for Windows - disk 4of7 (1355677 bytes, 04-26-95) mww110-5.exe 755 Mwave v1.10 for Windows - disk 5of7 (1295274 bytes, 04-25-95) mww110-6.exe 755 Mwave v1.10 for Windows - disk 6of7 (1359802 bytes, 04-26-95) mww110-7.exe 755 Mwave v1.10 for Windows - disk 7of7 (298618 bytes, 04-26-95) David Hite From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 15 15:39:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04582; Fri, 15 Sep 95 15:39:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21211; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 15:28:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 15:28:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21200; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 15:28:47 -0400 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA05040; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 15:28:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 15:28:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: "Dennis J. Gormley" Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, gormley@shrsys.hslc.org Subject: Re: Disabling suspend mode on TP755CE In-Reply-To: <009966F7.3CE7AAB6.307@shrsys.hslc.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 15 Sep 1995, Dennis J. Gormley wrote: > I have two questions which didn't seem to be addressed in my perusal of the > user's guide: > > 1) Will the TP755CE go into suspend mode if it is operating while the AC power > supply is connected? > > 2) If so, what is the technique for disabling suspend mode (other than hitting > Fn-Fwhichever one it is)? If you're using Windork (or possibly even OS2 or Lose95) you can open the applet (PS2WIN), then pick the Power option. There's a CUSTOMIZE button which will allow you to alter the behavior of the 4 modes - low, med, high, AC. You can tell AC to spin down the HD, as I did (quieter!) although the default is never, I think. You can tell the low power mode to never spin down the HD. Obviously there are changes you can make which will defeat the usefulness of these presets (ie - make them all the same) but it's nice to be able to customize the behavior. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ #tar -cvf /dev/tape /* #, how goddam hard is that?? ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 15 16:06:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07714; Fri, 15 Sep 95 16:06:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23869; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 15:56:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 15:56:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from next.lbs.lon.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23846; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 15:56:23 -0400 Received: by next.lbs.lon.ac.uk (NX5.67e/NeXT-1.0(KJW-19Apr90)) id AA00449; Fri, 15 Sep 95 20:55:06 +0100 Message-Id: <9509151955.AA00449@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ivo Welch Date: Fri, 15 Sep 95 20:55:05 +0100 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755CX: Some Solutions, some queries (SlimSCSI anyone?) As to my earlier questions: [1] already answered, there is a device for Adaptec, called AirPort. [2] under Windows there was a remove icon for OS/2 Warp; and [3] the TCP/IP directory was not for Ethernet, just over modem lines only, though, so I will not be using it (deleted it). Also, let me state for the record: the 800*600 screen is terrific and much better for use than 640*480. It is definitely worth a lot. Now, I have managed to prepare my hard disk for NeXTStep Installation---although this is still a way off. First, the positive experiences that others might be interested in: + There is a public domain tool called FIPS, which repartitions hard disks (in general, not for NS). I had to defragment the disk, which was a bit of a problem, until I figured out that hidden files are not movable. After I made everything unhidden (using attrib for the whole disk), I could defrag. I also deleted some files whose meaning I failed to understand (especially, in root there was "wp root" "ea something" "syslevel.tp" "safe/total.mem" and a few other items). Generally, it is a bad idea to delete hidden system files, but I really could not figure out what these things were doing. FIPS works like a charm. + Stacker: worked like a charm---but the diskcache now complains that it cannot cache disk C. So, I removed the C+ argument in autoexec.bat, and the error went away. 1993's "pkunzip" cannot create directories now; not sure if this is PCDOS or stacker, though. + Modems: I got strange function code errors from PC Card Director on my PCMCIA MHz modem, until I figured out that I had to disable the IR receptor. Now here are some problems (in order of importance): * I own an Adaptec SlimSCSI PCMCIA. It is recognized by name, but nothing seems to work with it. I have the old version 1.2a of the software that came with it (but it fails). I also tried PC Card Director, but it thinks that the SlimSCSI is a memory card (even after I uncommented the ATA device line in config.sys). If you have succeeded in installing SlimSCSI for DOS, could you please drop me a note what software (and version) you are using? Perhaps you could let me ftp it, too? * Is there a hardware reset button on the 755CX? ... and minor: * How do I use FaxWorks/Win with my PCMCIA card? * Is there a way to exchange data between Lotus Organizer and CalendarMaker? * What is the premiere shareware Terminal emulator under Windows? I use Kermit right now, but would perhaps like to try something else. /ivo welch PS: If anyone has succeeded in booting NeXTStep off an external SCSI drive using the Adaptec PCMCIA card, please send me mail. (This is unlikely.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 16 00:13:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07930; Sat, 16 Sep 95 00:13:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28227; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 00:01:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 00:01:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28204; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 00:01:16 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA00409; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 00:01:12 -0400 Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 00:01:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Black Matrix Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I found out what that black matrix thing is - nothing fancy. Here's a quote from http://itri.loyola.edu/Displays/C3_S3.htm > For color displays, red, green, and blue color filters are patterned > on the top plate. In the interpixel area on the top plate, an opaque > material is deposited and patterned. This black matrix improves the > contrast ratio by preventing light leakage in the areas between the > pixels. It has a couple nice pictures with it. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 16 00:45:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08542; Sat, 16 Sep 95 00:45:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00854; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 00:34:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 00:33:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00835; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 00:33:53 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA03375; Sat, 16 Sep 95 00:34:00 -0400 Date: Sat, 16 Sep 95 00:34:00 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509160434.AA03375@nile.gnat.com> To: jokim@tuna.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Black Matrix so we clearly see from John's account that the black matrix stuff has zero effect on brightness, only on contrast. Of course the eye can sometimes interpret better contrast as brightness :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 16 01:32:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10149; Sat, 16 Sep 95 01:32:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02751; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 01:16:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 01:16:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix3.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02738; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 01:16:11 -0400 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix3.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12+PanixU1.1) id BAA11212; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 01:16:01 -0400 Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 01:16:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Winsock 2.1f and MWAVE modem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anyone been successful getting Winsock 2.1f to work with the MWAVE modem? I recently upgraded to 2.1f and have not been able to use my SLIP account since. I can send data, but it appears that Wincock cannot receive. Any suggestions? Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 16 16:02:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22159; Sat, 16 Sep 95 16:02:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23479; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 15:47:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 15:47:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from balder.ssds.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23468; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 15:47:28 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by balder.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) id NAA20322; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 13:47:25 -0600 Received: from denver(134.127.16.1) by balder via smap (V1.3) id sma020316; Sat Sep 16 13:47:21 1995 Received: from freke.ssds.com ([134.127.64.1]) by denver.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) with SMTP id NAA22986; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 13:47:18 -0600 Message-Id: <199509161947.NAA22986@denver.ssds.com> X-Sender: cds@sanjose.ssds.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 14:42:07 -0500 To: J C Cummings , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Chris Swanson Subject: Re: AC Adapter NA/UK Greetings, I would also be interested in both a UK cord and European std. cord (if they are different). Regards, -+Chris At 13.18 95-09-15 +0100, J C Cummings wrote: >Hi there, > >I own a TP750, I bought it in North America, and am (for the next >3 years at least) using it in the UK for my PhD. I've just been >using a little plastic plug-adapter to use it plugged in, since >I know that the IBM Universal Adapter does the power change for me. > >However, the little plastic adapter that changes the shape of the >plug, accidentally got broken last night. So what I'm wondering is, >while I'll still pop out to a store and by one of these adapters, whether >it is possible to get an individual cord which goes from the Universal >Adapter to the AC outlet, which has a british plug on the end. This >would save me buying, and breaking, NA/UK little plastic adapters, >which are rather expensive for their function (at least here in Leeds). > >If anyone knows a part number for this part of the uk adapter, or >has any IBM UK phone numbers (I.e. Helpline, Pc Direct,Sales, etc) >or any other advice, if they could e-mail it to me I'd be most grateful. > >Many thanks, >James Cummings >mes4jcc@leeds.ac.uk > > > > > > / Chris Swanson ____/ ____/ ___ / ____/ Engineer ____ / ____ / /__/ / ____ / 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd #993 _______/ _______/ _______/ _______/ Bloomington, MN 55473 business driven technology solutions. (612) 921-2392 FAX (612) 921-2395 Um Yah Yah! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 16 19:34:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06215; Sat, 16 Sep 95 19:34:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06088; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 19:27:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 19:27:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06077; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 19:27:11 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.32] (mac32.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA03872; Sat, 16 Sep 95 19:25:25 EDT Message-Id: <9509162325.AA03872@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 19:40:44 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: WARP-Caution 755wd101.exe on 750 mono Don't try this at home. I just installed the video drivers from the 755wd101.exe file on my tp750 mono. The results were not good. The external monitor worked fine, with all resolutions available, but switching to the lcd resulted in a big black band across the screen, which moved with the cursor on the first boot, and remained stationary on the second. After two boots I restored the system to the VFD 1.33 drivers. Now Wilson Yip had mentioned that the WDC31P drivers worked well on a mono, but this file is no longer on ftp.pcco.ibm.com. Where can one get these drivers now? ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 16 22:06:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11839; Sat, 16 Sep 95 22:06:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14998; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 21:59:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 21:59:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14987; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 21:59:03 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA01867; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 21:58:33 -0400 Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 21:58:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Victor Kress Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: WARP-Caution 755wd101.exe on 750 mono In-Reply-To: <9509162325.AA03872@gl.ciw.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 16 Sep 1995, Victor Kress wrote: > I just installed the video drivers from the 755wd101.exe file on my tp750 > mono. The results were not good. The external monitor worked fine, with > all resolutions available, but switching to the lcd resulted in a big black > band across the screen, which moved with the cursor on the first boot, and > remained stationary on the second. After two boots I restored the system > to the VFD 1.33 drivers. I had the same problem on my TP750 mono with the default video drivers for Warp, and a later release said to be for the WDC24/31. I don't think it's specific to the 755wd101.exe drivers. I tracked it down to whether or not high-performance mode was on. I don't recall the exact relationship anymore, but it *is* possible to get external support (all resolutions) and LCD support (640x480x 8bit color) without corruption on a mono. It may also have been related to whether high-performance mode was on at the time you installed the drivers. There is some combination of the install time and the current high-performance mode setting which lets you switch between the LCD and any resolution on an external monitor without corrupting the LCD display. You do lose something - simultaneous display capability I think. One of these days I'll try it all again and write down exactly what works and what doesn't (I'm using Linux now). ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 16 22:40:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13329; Sat, 16 Sep 95 22:40:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17165; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 22:34:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 22:34:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17154; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 22:34:49 -0400 Received: from inc.net by inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21628; Sat, 16 Sep 95 21:34:38 CDT Date: Sat, 16 Sep 95 21:34:36 CDT Message-Id: <9509170234.AA21628@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: josephw@inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Subject: Re: Winsock 2.1f and MWAVE modem >Has anyone been successful getting Winsock 2.1f to work with the MWAVE >modem? I recently upgraded to 2.1f and have not been able to use my SLIP >account since. I can send data, but it appears that Wincock cannot >receive. Any suggestions? > I have been using Trumpet Winsock 2.1f with the Mwave modem on my 755cx without major problems. Before I registered it seemed a little balky (I did use 2.1e w/o problem). Since registering it works like a charm. I usually use it under a OS/2-Win session. One thing you might check is the SLIP port seeting, it should equate to whatever your COM Port setting is. Drop me a note if you have some specific questions about my settings. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 17 13:48:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02455; Sun, 17 Sep 95 13:48:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11930; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 13:38:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 13:38:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from next.lbs.lon.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11920; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 13:38:47 -0400 Received: by next.lbs.lon.ac.uk (NX5.67e/NeXT-1.0(KJW-19Apr90)) id AA02137; Sun, 17 Sep 95 18:37:15 +0100 Message-Id: <9509171737.AA02137@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ivo Welch Date: Sun, 17 Sep 95 18:37:14 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Experience with Computer Insurer? There was a little flyer that came with my 755CX, noting some insurer for notebooks. Has anyone had experience with them? Given that the glass screen apparently is vulnerable to cracking (thanks Jeff), if they are insuring it against inadvertent breakage and if they are prompt in their payment policy, I would get it. (By the way, what is their address/phone/email again?) /ivo welch PS: Anyone got SVGATextMode under linux to work? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 17 17:37:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15159; Sun, 17 Sep 95 17:37:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20845; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 17:27:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 17:27:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom3.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20828; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 17:27:07 -0400 Received: by netcom3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA17496; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 14:22:34 -0700 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 14:22:34 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199509172122.OAA17496@netcom3.netcom.com> To: adam@yggdrasil.com, fox@first.cs.nyu.edu, mike@wireless.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Thinkpad 760 According to compiled reports from comp.sys.laptops and elsewhere, the TP760 will have (depending on configuration): 12.4" 1024x768 active matrix display with 64k colors 4x speed internal removable CD-rom 120 MHz pentium Mwave DSP 2.0 including 28.8kbps modem functions MPEG-2 acceleration 810, 1.2, or 1.4 gig disk street price of $7000 and up. Yow!!! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 17 20:27:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24493; Sun, 17 Sep 95 20:27:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06880; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 20:14:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 20:13:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06870; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 20:13:57 -0400 Received: from ts33-2.wla.ts.ucla.edu (ts33-2.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.21.207]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA16822; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 17:12:29 -0700 To: mike@wireless.com, fox@first.cs.nyu.edu, adam@yggdrasil.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Subject: Re: Thinkpad 760 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 00:07:33 GMT Message-Id: From: sshaw@ucla.edu (Stanford Shaw) X-Mailer: Quarterdeck Message Center [1.0] Despite what the IBM publicity initially stated, apparently the TP760 will first have only 14.4bps modems. > According to compiled reports from comp.sys.laptops and elsewhere, the > TP760 will have (depending on configuration): > > 12.4" 1024x768 active matrix display with 64k colors > 4x speed internal removable CD-rom > 120 MHz pentium > Mwave DSP 2.0 including 28.8kbps modem functions > MPEG-2 acceleration > 810, 1.2, or 1.4 gig disk > street price of $7000 and up. > > Yow!!! > ---- Stanford Shaw UCLA History Dept. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 17 20:30:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24762; Sun, 17 Sep 95 20:30:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06530; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 20:07:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 20:07:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ada.cs.fsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06520; Sun, 17 Sep 1995 20:07:49 -0400 Received: by ada.cs.fsu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id AAA07791; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 00:09:02 GMT Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 00:09:02 GMT Message-Id: <199509180009.AAA07791@ada.cs.fsu.edu> From: Ted Baker To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: suspend/hibernate, Linux I've recently noticed that the suspend and hibernate functions are not working properly, with my Linux installation on the 755CX. The symptom is that the machine comes back up, but with the keyboard, mouse, and power switch nonresponsive. I am forced to use the emergency off button in the back, with consequent corruption of my filesystem, so I'm reluctant to try many experiments. I'm hoping one of you reading this mailing list can help me zero in on the problem from your experience. It seems to me that when I first installed the APM bios, I tested these features and they worked. Since then, I've made a few changes, but I can't figure out which of these is responsible, since I did not notice the problem until just recently, when I carried the machine along on an air trip and tried to use the suspend feature during a landing. The big change I made is that I updated the ROM bios to V1.30, >from the IBM archive. Another change is that I am now have a PCMCIA card installed, an ethernet adaptor. I don't think this is a Linux-specific problem. Under Windows 3.11, without or without the PCMCIA drivers loaded, I get almost the same problem. That is, the mouse locks up after suspend, thought the power switch still works. --Ted Baker From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 18 03:06:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16726; Mon, 18 Sep 95 03:06:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29514; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 02:56:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 02:56:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from next.lbs.lon.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29500; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 02:56:51 -0400 Received: by next.lbs.lon.ac.uk (NX5.67e/NeXT-1.0(KJW-19Apr90)) id AA02727; Mon, 18 Sep 95 07:55:46 +0100 Message-Id: <9509180655.AA02727@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ivo Welch Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 07:55:45 +0100 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Novice Experience Installing Linux SLS on TP755CX I am an experienced NeXTStep user. I have just installed SLS Linux for the first time. Here is some description/advice to others who are planning to do the same: [1] I grabbed the SLS distribution from a mirror to sunsite.unc.edu, and read the Linux-Installation-Howto by Matt Welsh (no relation). I copied the files using a parallel port transfer under DOS to install from hard disk. (I only wish NeXTStep had this one, too.) [2] Creating boot and root disks was straightforward, and worked (I used the scsi.gz boot disk). Than, once logged on as root, I started "setup." As I found out, the Linux setup program is very finicky. First, it did not mount the DOS partition for me. So, I had to handmount the DOS partition (after the boot, accomplished by "/bin/mount /dev/hda1 /somewhere"). Then, I had to run "setup" again. setup is finicky about specifying (source) filenames. Make sure that there are not one-too-many slashes in the combination of the directory and the mountpoint. Specifying "/somewhere/" and "/sls/" for example fails. [3] The basic SLS installation was rather straightforward. I had a crash on basic installation, but think I was done already (although I do not have tset, so perhaps I am still missing some). Restarting setup for other packages, I wish it had not asked me for the system font, because I liked the standard one, and it was not clear which one it was. Somehow, I also had to twice install LILO before it worked. Don't know why. [4] I then booted, and Linux either complained that it was read-only or that it was read-write but wanted to be read-only at first. I figured out that this was because I was missing an /etc/fstab entry. Here it mine now: /dev/hda2 / ext2 rw 0 1 /dev/hda1 /dosd msdos rw 2 3 /proc /proc proc defaults (The last line is necessary for top and ps to work. I don't know why, and I do not care.) [5] Now, I moved loadlin to the DOS partition, and unpacked it. It took me a while to figure out that I also needed to copy the linux kernel from the linux partition to the DOS partition. (A bit strange to have a Linux kernel on a DOS disk, I think, but that is what it took.) Unfortunately, I screwed up on the disk naming convention (need to use /dev/hda2 of course), so Loadlin was waiting forever for a UMSDOS partition. Once I rebooted, I fixed this, and loadlin worked. [6] It also took me a while to figure out that I did not want to give a vga= argument to loadlin. It only screwed me up. By the way, I never managed to get the console into 100*33 mode (or any mode other than 80*25). This is a pity. [7] Now, I tried to follow Jeff Friedl's (excellent) instructions on how to get X up. BUT---the latest SLS distribution does not come with the latest X. So, I first needed to download this one, too, from sun-site. Installation comes in elf and a.out format. Eventually I figured out that I needed the "a.out" format, because SLS is still built on it (on elf format, the elf-X looks for a missing libm.so). So, I build this X again. The build itself was straightforward untarring and replacing all files in /usr/X11R6 with my new files. (Note: one needs to untar staff both in common and in a.out.) [8] I killed the gpm program to get control of my mouse back, and started X. It came up. Great! So, I logged out, started DOS, changed mode "ps2 mode3x on", and ran loadlin. After login, X still ran, and all it took was to figure out how to make the numerical pad work. It took first a Shift-NumLk, and then a ctrl-alt-minus (on the ; key) and a ctrl-alt-plus (on the / key) let me switch to 800*600 resolution. Now, please do not ask me for anything else---as I stated, I am a novice myself. This however may help some of you doing the same thing. Good luck, /ivo From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 18 05:07:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22295; Mon, 18 Sep 95 05:07:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06779; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 05:01:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 05:01:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uranus.ubs.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06768; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 05:01:39 -0400 From: Received: by uranus.ubs.com; id KAA02175; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 10:56:57 +0200 Received: from unknown(137.156.150.131) by uranus.ubs.com via smap (g3.0.1) id sma002168; Mon, 18 Sep 95 10:56:34 +0200 Received: from by sv400net.flur.zuerich.ubs.ch with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA290644835; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 11:00:35 +0200 X-Openmail-Hops: 2 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 11:00:01 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Thinkpad 760 Mime-Version: 1.0 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="openmail-part-048c160d-00000001" --openmail-part-048c160d-00000001 Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="Re: Thinkpad 760" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [description of stylin' machine deleted] When's it expected to hit the market? =2D-- Tim Vetter tim.vetter@ubs.com (preferred, ASCII) vfr@stm537.ubszh.net.ch (MIME, NEXTMAIL) Forex & Fixed Income Trading Development Union Bank of Switzerland voice: (+41) 1/2358422 fax: (+41) 1/2355129 snailmail: LEIT/LITH-VFR Postfach 8021 Zurich, Switzerland --openmail-part-048c160d-00000001 Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="Attachment Modes" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 644 Re: Thinkpad 760 600 Attachment Modes --openmail-part-048c160d-00000001-- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 18 11:27:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12373; Mon, 18 Sep 95 11:27:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10741; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 10:54:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 10:54:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10731; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 10:54:09 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0suhax-0004uIC; Mon, 18 Sep 95 09:54 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0suhav-0002ncC; Mon, 18 Sep 95 09:54 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0suhau-0002wwC; Mon, 18 Sep 95 09:54 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: ibm (fwd) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 09:54:52 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Found this on the Thinkpad Compuserve forum. Just called the 800 number and requested a cap. While I didn't have my machine's serial number handy they still processed my request. > To ensure the continued satisfaction of customers, IBM is offering all > ThinkPad owners a free replacement cap. IBM will provide customers > with the upgraded, no-slip rubber TrackPoint caps featured on IBM's > latest ThinkPad models. > > In the U.S. and Canada customers should call 1-800-520-8765 to receive > a free replacement cap. > > In other countries, customers should visit their authorized IBM > resellers or contact their local representative. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 18 12:09:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14544; Mon, 18 Sep 95 12:09:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17124; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 11:53:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 11:53:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17106; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 11:52:45 -0400 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id aa29726; 18 Sep 95 15:54 +0100 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa20370; 18 Sep 95 15:52 +0100 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: mes4jcc@gps.leeds.ac.uk, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: AC Adapter NA/UK Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 15:51:03 BST Message-Id: <9509181551.aa26194@hipass.filct.com> plug, accidentally got broken last night. So what I'm wondering is, while I'll still pop out to a store and by one of these adapters, whether it is possible to get an individual cord which goes from the Universal Adapter to the AC outlet, which has a british plug on the end. This would save me buying, and breaking, NA/UK little plastic adapters, This should be easy to get from any reasonable store. The 3-pin socket that connects to the actual PS box is pretty universal. You can get similar cords for other European countries (anyone want a Norwegian job that came on a CDROM I bought recently - in the UK!) Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 18 15:34:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27965; Mon, 18 Sep 95 15:34:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05760; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 15:20:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 15:20:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05730; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 15:20:12 -0400 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA16173; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 14:32:31 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 14:32:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: "Mike O'Carroll" Cc: mes4jcc@gps.leeds.ac.uk, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: AC Adapter NA/UK In-Reply-To: <9509181551.aa26194@hipass.filct.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 18 Sep 1995, Mike O'Carroll wrote: > This should be easy to get from any reasonable store. The 3-pin socket > that connects to the actual PS box is pretty universal. You can get I often tell people it's the closest thing to a universal standard they'll ever see in computing. And I mean it.... ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "There's nothing wrong with Windows95 I can't fix by deleting it" - Me. ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 19 08:04:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03472; Tue, 19 Sep 95 08:04:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23326; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 07:51:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 07:51:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from fris.fris.nl by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23307; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 07:51:02 -0400 Received: from fl1tty01.fris.nl (fl1tty01.fris.nl [193.67.218.66]) by fris.fris.nl (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA01847 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 13:51:49 -0100 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 13:51:49 -0100 Message-Id: <199509191451.NAA01847@fris.fris.nl> X-Sender: janomill@fris.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Jan van der Meulen Subject: difference 750c and 755?? Hello, I often see programs for use with the TP755??, and I wonder if I should/could use them on my TP750c. For instance, when I visit the IBM ftp side, there are a lot of files which seem only to be used with the TP755?? Jan van der Meulen From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 19 08:19:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07542; Tue, 19 Sep 95 08:19:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24901; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 08:13:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 08:13:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24890; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 08:13:30 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA09404; Tue, 19 Sep 95 08:13:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 95 08:13:40 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509191213.AA09404@nile.gnat.com> To: janomill@fris.nl, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: difference 750c and 755?? clearly if a program uses the Mwave sound, it will not run on the 750c. Generaly systems programs are not interchangable, for example power management is different. If a program is labeled as TP755 on the site, it probably will not work on the 750. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 19 08:40:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08186; Tue, 19 Sep 95 08:40:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26575; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 08:34:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 08:34:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26565; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 08:34:21 -0400 Received: from efd.lth.se (f91el@saturnus-3 [130.235.41.13]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA07119; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:33:31 +0200 Message-Id: <199509191233.OAA07119@kobra.efd.lth.se> To: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Cc: janomill@fris.nl, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, f91el@efd.lth.se Subject: Re: difference 750c and 755?? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 19 Sep 1995 08:13:40 EDT." <9509191213.AA09404@nile.gnat.com> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:33:30 +0200 From: Erik Lindahl Well, That depends on what flavour of the 755 the program is meant for. If you mean the "old" 755c, it's mostly an update of the 750c, and most programs will work. (Same video chip for example, same power management.) In the more recent models like ce, cx, etc, many parts are different and system programs/drivers will not work in many cases. Btw, it's sometimes worth downloading the disk and read the detailed documentation. For example, I think it was the enhanced video disk (which says ONLY CE!) that contained drivers for the 750c that provided you with a virtual screen of 1024x768. Go ahead and try for yourself ;-) Regards, Erik From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 19 08:53:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08678; Tue, 19 Sep 95 08:53:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27569; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 08:46:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 08:46:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27558; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 08:46:26 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA09562; Tue, 19 Sep 95 08:46:37 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 95 08:46:37 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509191246.AA09562@nile.gnat.com> To: f91el@efd.lth.se Subject: Re: difference 750c and 755?? Cc: janomill@fris.nl, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Erik, will the virutal screen stuff work on an 800 x 600 755CX? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 19 09:20:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09961; Tue, 19 Sep 95 09:20:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29791; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 09:12:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 09:12:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from BROWNVM.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29781; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 09:12:33 -0400 Message-Id: <199509191312.JAA29781@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4754; Tue, 19 Sep 95 09:09:55 EDT Received: from BROWNVM (NJE origin ST402711@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0891; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 09:09:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 95 09:06:30 EDT From: Tim Johnson Subject: Zipdrive, PCMCIA SCSI To: "Origin of LISTS.TP750" I'm interested in getting a Zipdrive for my TP755Cs, and am seeking some suggestions and info. I know the Zipdrive comes in either the SCSI flavor or the Parallel Port flavor. The Parallel Port flavor seems more portable (I can easily attach it to other machines) but the SCSI is faster. So, my questions are - does anyone have any suggestions about getting the parallel port version vs the SCSI version? And for those people recommending SCSI, do you have a PCMCIA SCSI adapter you can recommend? (I am a grad student, so I can't pony up a premium price, I'm afraid.) Thanks for any and all suggestions. -Tim From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 19 09:28:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10150; Tue, 19 Sep 95 09:28:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00652; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 09:23:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 09:23:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from polaris.cv.nrao.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00640; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 09:23:02 -0400 Received: by polaris.cv.nrao.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA120065; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 09:23:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 09:23:00 -0400 From: awootten@polaris.cv.nrao.edu (Al Wootten) Message-Id: <9509191323.AA120065@polaris.cv.nrao.edu> To: Tim Johnson , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Zipdrive, PCMCIA SCSI In-Reply-To: <199509191312.JAA29781@CS.UTK.EDU> References: <199509191312.JAA29781@CS.UTK.EDU> Tim Johnson writes: > And for those people recommending SCSI, > do you have a PCMCIA SCSI adapter you can > recommend? (I am a grad student, so I > can't pony up a premium price, I'm afraid.) Unless you REALLY need the performance of a SCSI drive (for instance, you have large datasets such as telescopes generate for us astronomers and i.e. use disk-intensive reduction programs, or if you need to hook your ZIPdrive up to, for instance, a workstation at work to load the data for subsequent processing at home on your laptop), then you should save your dollars and use the parallel port interface. Clear skies, Al +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Alwyn Wootten (http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~awootten/) | | Astronomer, National Radio Astronomy Observatory | | 520 Edgemont Road, Charlottesville, VA 22903-2475, USA| | (804)-296-0329 voice Let's build The Millimeter Array| | (804)-296-0278 FAX {> {> {> {> | +------------------------------^-----^-----^-----^------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 19 11:02:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16107; Tue, 19 Sep 95 11:02:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09712; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:53:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:53:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.ucsd.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09702; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:53:18 -0400 Received: from conic.UUCP by mail.ucsd.edu; id HAA11372 sendmail 8.6.12/UCSD-2.2-sun via UUCP Tue, 19 Sep 1995 07:53:04 -0700 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <199509191453.HAA11372@mail.ucsd.edu> Received: from engineering/tomf by conic.loral.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.31 93.10.18) id 3652 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 07:33:21 PST 8 PDT From: TOMF@conic.loral.com (Tom Franklin Tom Franklin) To: "Dennis J. Gormley" , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 07:33:15 +0000 Subject: Re: Mwave sound & Win95 Cc: gormley@shrsys.hslc.org Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Organization: Loral Conic/Terracom, San Diego, CA 92123 (619) 279-0411 This is IBM's attempt at Win-95 support. Anyone who has been trying to get Win-95 running should get this disk. There seems to be some MWave specific stuff. I tried the disk supplied for the 755C, but it didn't seem to do anything that couldn't be done before. It just automates the process a little. http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tpw95.html =================================================== > Hi everybody! > > We seem to have installed Windows 95 on our TP755CEs with relativly little > hassle, but the sound out of the speaker is distorted. > > The mwave modem functions work fine, but the Windows ta-da now sounds like the > opening chords from one of the Yardbirds early releases! > > Are there new drivers for Win95, or is there a setting I have to change. > > Yes, I have tried turning the volume down! > > Thanks! > > \ Dennis J. Gormley Tel: (215) 222-1532 > \\ Operations Manager Fax: (215) 222-0416 > \\\\ Health Sciences Libraries Consortium Int: gormley@hslc.org > \\\\\\ 3600 Market Street, Suite 550 > H S L C Philadelphia, PA 19104-2646 > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 19 11:02:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16106; Tue, 19 Sep 95 11:02:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09743; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:53:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:53:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.ucsd.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09732; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:53:33 -0400 Received: from conic.UUCP by mail.ucsd.edu; id HAA11418 sendmail 8.6.12/UCSD-2.2-sun via UUCP Tue, 19 Sep 1995 07:53:21 -0700 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <199509191453.HAA11418@mail.ucsd.edu> Received: from engineering/tomf by conic.loral.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.31 93.10.18) id 5868 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 07:18:51 PST 8 PDT From: TOMF@conic.loral.com (Tom Franklin Tom Franklin) To: Paulo Magalhaes , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 07:18:48 +0000 Subject: Re: TP750Cs price X-Confirm-Reading-To: TOMF@conic.loral.com X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Organization: Loral Conic/Terracom, San Diego, CA 92123 (619) 279-0411 I recently bought a TP755C with case/X-Jack/8MB/170MB for $2,300. =================================================== > Hi! > > I have a TP750Cs, 8Mb RAM, 340Mb HD, with an XJack 14.4 modem. I was > thinking of upgrading to something a little better, and I have a friend > who is interested in buying my computer. Now, the problem is that I don't > know what a fair price is... Considering that the computer is about 18 > months old and has had quite a bit of use, what do you people out there > consider an honest price?... > > Many thanks for your help. > > -- > Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA > voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 19 11:03:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16116; Tue, 19 Sep 95 11:03:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09770; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:53:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:53:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.ucsd.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09757; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:53:47 -0400 Received: from conic.UUCP by mail.ucsd.edu; id HAA11460 sendmail 8.6.12/UCSD-2.2-sun via UUCP Tue, 19 Sep 1995 07:53:36 -0700 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <199509191453.HAA11460@mail.ucsd.edu> Received: from engineering/tomf by conic.loral.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.31 93.10.18) id 8583 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 07:36:14 PST 8 PDT From: TOMF@conic.loral.com (Tom Franklin Tom Franklin) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 07:36:13 +0000 Subject: Re: Mwave sound & Win95 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Organization: Loral Conic/Terracom, San Diego, CA 92123 (619) 279-0411 This is IBM's attempt at Win-95 support. Anyone who has been trying to get Win-95 running should get this disk. There seems to be some MWave specific stuff. I tried the disk supplied for the 755C, but it didn't seem to do anything that couldn't be done before. It just automates the process a little. http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tpw95.html =================================================== > Hi everybody! > > We seem to have installed Windows 95 on our TP755CEs with relativly little > hassle, but the sound out of the speaker is distorted. > > The mwave modem functions work fine, but the Windows ta-da now sounds like the > opening chords from one of the Yardbirds early releases! > > Are there new drivers for Win95, or is there a setting I have to change. > > Yes, I have tried turning the volume down! > > Thanks! > > \ Dennis J. Gormley Tel: (215) 222-1532 > \\ Operations Manager Fax: (215) 222-0416 > \\\\ Health Sciences Libraries Consortium Int: gormley@hslc.org > \\\\\\ 3600 Market Street, Suite 550 > H S L C Philadelphia, PA 19104-2646 > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 19 12:53:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24241; Tue, 19 Sep 95 12:53:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19305; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 12:34:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 12:34:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19295; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 12:34:37 -0400 Received: by sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu id AA04925 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for TP list ); Tue, 19 Sep 1995 12:34:30 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 12:34:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Paulo Magalhaes X-Sender: pm119@sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu To: TP list Subject: 750Cs price Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thank you to all who responded. The "sad" story is that for those of us who buy portables with our own money (vs. company money, that is), it's almost worth investing in "add-ons" (more memory, bigger HD, etc), rather than upgrading to a better machine... :) Again, thanks for all the precious comments. -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 19 14:24:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00245; Tue, 19 Sep 95 14:24:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27059; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:11:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:11:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kalypso.cybercom.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27049; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:11:21 -0400 Received: from mail.cybercom.net (dial1-18.cybercom.net [205.198.81.18]) by kalypso.cybercom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA07253; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:06:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:06:55 -0400 Message-Id: <199509191806.OAA07253@kalypso.cybercom.net> X-Sender: dchan@mail.cybercom.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Erik Lindahl From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: Re: difference 750c and 755?? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Erik...what is the name of this file??? You can get a virtual screen just as you do in linux? At 02:33 PM 9/19/95 +0200, you wrote: >Well, > >That depends on what flavour of the 755 the program is meant for. >If you mean the "old" 755c, it's mostly an update of the 750c, and most >programs will work. (Same video chip for example, same power management.) >In the more recent models like ce, cx, etc, many parts are different and >system programs/drivers will not work in many cases. > >Btw, it's sometimes worth downloading the disk and read the detailed >documentation. For example, I think it was the enhanced video disk >(which says ONLY CE!) that contained drivers for the 750c that provided you >with a virtual screen of 1024x768. Go ahead and try for yourself ;-) > >Regards, >Erik > > > -- ***************************************************************************** NIVEN: "There exist other minds that think as you do" Corollary: "The gene-tampered turkey sitting next to you isn't necessarily one of them" Derek Chan (chan4@fas.harvard.edu, dchan@cybercom.net) ***************************************************************************** From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 19 17:48:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17621; Tue, 19 Sep 95 17:48:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19934; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:39:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:39:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from orpheus.amdahl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19924; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:39:20 -0400 Received: from cessna.oes.amdahl.com by orpheus.amdahl.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svANq-0005LoC; Tue, 19 Sep 95 14:39 PDT Received: by cessna.oes.amdahl.com (5.0/SMI-4.1/DNS) id AA00377; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:40:28 +0800 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:40:28 +0800 From: lenj@oes.amdahl.com (Len Jacobson) Message-Id: <9509192140.AA00377@cessna.oes.amdahl.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, lrj@hepth.cornell.edu Subject: Re: IBM's Win95 SETUP disk X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII I am assuming that the disk that IBM is providing pertains ONLY to the TP755, and that TP750 users must content themselves with the July 10th .TXT file that is available from the same site. Is that correct? Len Jacobson > From @amdahl.uts.amdahl.com:owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 19 14:18 PDT 1995 > X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:01:37 EDT > From: "Lew Jansen" > Subject: IBM's Win95 SETUP disk > To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 16:57:15 -0400 (EDT) > > > This is now available via the web at http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tpw95.html > or via ftp from ftp.pcco.ibm.com as /pub/mobiles/win95set.exe > > I've looked at it and it appears to be a disk to setup your Thinkpad for > installing Win95 -- but it seems you must run it from Windows 3.1 > > Anyone know just what it's supposed to do, if it does anything important, > and whether those of us who have already installed Win95 have any options > other than uninstalling Win95, running the setup disk, and then reinstalling > Win95? While not critical right now, I'd kind of like to be able to use the > FAX capabilities of the MWAVE DSP. (I've tried reinstalling the MWave stuff, > the >16M fix, and the FaxWorks stuff to no avail; I can do quick faxes from > the CallCenter, but I can't print to the Fax-printer) > > -- > Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory > lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 19 17:51:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17633; Tue, 19 Sep 95 17:51:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20209; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:43:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:43:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20198; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:43:17 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA35902; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:38:55 -0400 Message-Id: <9509192138.AA35902@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Re: IBM's Win95 SETUP disk To: lenj@oes.amdahl.com (Len Jacobson) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9509192140.AA00377@cessna.oes.amdahl.com> from "Len Jacobson" at Sep 19, 95 02:40:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text > I am assuming that the disk that IBM is providing pertains ONLY to the TP755, > and that TP750 users must content themselves with the July 10th .TXT file that > is available from the same site. > Is that correct? Whoops! Yes, that's correct. This disk appears to be ONLY for the 755's -- TR750 owners appear to be left out in the cold. -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 19 18:59:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23173; Tue, 19 Sep 95 18:59:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15858; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:01:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:01:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15823; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:01:34 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA19300; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 16:57:15 -0400 Message-Id: <9509192057.AA19300@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: IBM's Win95 SETUP disk To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 16:57:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text This is now available via the web at http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tpw95.html or via ftp from ftp.pcco.ibm.com as /pub/mobiles/win95set.exe I've looked at it and it appears to be a disk to setup your Thinkpad for installing Win95 -- but it seems you must run it from Windows 3.1 Anyone know just what it's supposed to do, if it does anything important, and whether those of us who have already installed Win95 have any options other than uninstalling Win95, running the setup disk, and then reinstalling Win95? While not critical right now, I'd kind of like to be able to use the FAX capabilities of the MWAVE DSP. (I've tried reinstalling the MWave stuff, the >16M fix, and the FaxWorks stuff to no avail; I can do quick faxes from the CallCenter, but I can't print to the Fax-printer) -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 20 04:32:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00427; Wed, 20 Sep 95 04:32:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04354; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 04:21:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 04:21:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04332; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 04:21:44 -0400 Received: from efd.lth.se (f91el@saturnus-3 [130.235.41.13]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA13558; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 10:20:37 +0200 Message-Id: <199509200820.KAA13558@kobra.efd.lth.se> To: "Derek V. Chan" Cc: Erik Lindahl , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: difference 750c and 755?? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:06:55 EDT." <199509191806.OAA07253@kalypso.cybercom.net> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 10:20:35 +0200 From: Erik Lindahl Well, The virtual screen has about the same properties as some of its X relatives, apart from the fact that it is hardware based. This limits the screen to 1024x768. When you hit the border it scrolls - very fast. This works on all kinds of WD90C24, I think... On the later chip WD90C24a (?) you can have your internal display set at a virtual desk, with the whole desk at 1024x768 on the external screen. I really can't remember the exact file that provided this driver - I'll try to look it up later. (This unix machine can't run the self-extracting files.) I *think* it was in evtpe120.exe... Btw, to get the virtual screen, you have to look in the documentation and then edit your system.ini manually. (Something like VirtualScreen=1024x768). This is a feature of the chip, but I have not been able to get it to work with OS/2. (Probably it won't work with win95 either...) Regards, Erik From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 20 08:33:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17516; Wed, 20 Sep 95 08:33:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24016; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 08:20:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 08:20:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24005; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 08:20:53 -0400 From: Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA27830 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 12:20:51 GMT Received: from unknown(166.72.238.98) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smabJ4DFW; Wed Sep 20 12:20:23 1995 Received: by slip166-238-98.ibm.net (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/2.12um) id AA0617; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:19:26 -0700 Message-Id: <9509202119.AA0617@slip166-238-98.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:10:32 +0100 Sender: aenna@0y.O&/.ibm.net To: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Subject: TP 755CD and WARP - Multimedia problems X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <601_90_1_811620632> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Long time ago (middle of June '95...) I sent a message here asking for help in a very big problem I still have... Dopes anybody tell me if it is possible to install in my TP 755CD - 16MbRam the MMOS2 features...? I tried and tried, with no success. IBM Helpware here in Italy doesn't be able to suggest me something really good: my "poor" ThinkPad is still mute, and I don't be able to hear nothing from him, unless I start with PC DOS and Windows... :-( Please, do help me...! Thanks. Cheers! Alberto Enna From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 20 08:53:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19514; Wed, 20 Sep 95 08:53:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26025; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 08:47:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 08:47:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26013; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 08:47:26 -0400 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA04534 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 15:46:37 +0300 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 15:46:37 +0300 Message-Id: <199509201246.PAA04534@ra.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpine@130.232.18.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: Re: difference 750c and 755?? >Well, > >The virtual screen has about the same properties as some of its X relatives, >apart from the fact that it is hardware based. This limits the screen to >1024x768. When you hit the border it scrolls - very fast. >This works on all kinds of WD90C24, I think... >On the later chip WD90C24a (?) you can have your internal display set at >a virtual desk, with the whole desk at 1024x768 on the external screen. > >I really can't remember the exact file that provided this driver - I'll try >to look it up later. (This unix machine can't run the self-extracting files.) > >I *think* it was in evtpe120.exe... > I found the drivers from vwtpe121.exe in pcco The various drivers (rotated etc.) work well with a 360 too. Unfortunatly, the virtual screen did'nt work with my 360-mono display (as correctly documented). I have to try it on a STN display. -antti From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 20 12:54:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06299; Wed, 20 Sep 95 12:54:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17369; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 12:40:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 12:40:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from postman.essex.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17338; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 12:40:42 -0400 Received: from vulcan.essex.ac.uk by postman.essex.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <13182-0@postman.essex.ac.uk>; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 17:40:07 +0100 Received: by vulcan.essex.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id RAA11153; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 17:14:54 +0100 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 17:14:54 +0100 From: alien@essex.ac.uk (Adrian F Clark) Message-Id: <199509201614.RAA11153@vulcan.essex.ac.uk> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP750 Sound support for Linux? I have a TP750 and have been running Linux on it for the best part of 18 months. One permanent irritation, however, has been the lack of support for sound under Linux. I wonder whether anyone has had a go at this, or has technical information that would let me have a go at hacking the standard Linux sound driver myself. Many thanks in advance. ..Adrian -- Dr Adrian F Clark http://esewww.essex.ac.uk/~alien/alien.html EMAIL: alien@essex.ac.uk PHONE: (+44) 1206-872432 FAX: (+44) 1206-872900 Dept ESE, University of Essex, Wivenhoe Park, Colchester, Essex, C04 3SQ, UK From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 20 14:46:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10304; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:46:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26065; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 14:34:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 14:34:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom10.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26055; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 14:34:34 -0400 Received: by netcom10.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA16602; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 11:31:24 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 11:31:24 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199509201831.LAA16602@netcom10.netcom.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755 memory questions 1. Can I use a DRAM card and a DIMM at the same time? 2. Is there an advantage to either over the other? 3. Is parity memory worth paying extra for? I heard somewhere that the Pentium thinkpads don't even use it. I'd like to add 8 meg (or more) to an 8 meg 755CX. I'm wondering if I can do this via a 4 meg card and a 4 meg DIMM, since I know where I can get a 4 meg card pretty cheap so there would be some savings compared to buying an 8 meg card. tnx From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 20 15:06:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11819; Wed, 20 Sep 95 15:06:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28460; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 14:53:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 14:53:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28448; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 14:53:07 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA02879; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:53:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:53:09 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509201853.AA02879@nile.gnat.com> To: phr@netcom.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755 memory questions you cannot use a card and a DIMM, physically impossible From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 20 21:07:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08991; Wed, 20 Sep 95 21:07:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00887; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 21:00:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 21:00:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mp.canuck.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00847; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 21:00:00 -0400 Received: from ccc030.canuck.com (ccc030.canuck.com [204.50.15.45]) by mp.canuck.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA07654 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 18:59:51 -0600 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 18:59:51 -0600 Message-Id: <199509210059.SAA07654@mp.canuck.com> X-Sender: dcrombie@canuck.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3b4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dcrombie@canuck.com (David S. Crombie) Could someone send me the part number and price for the smaller version of the power adapter that just came out? I called Canada PC Direct and they didn't have a clue what I was talking about. Typical. Thanks David S. Crombie dcrombie@canuck.com 102035.3354@compuserve.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 20 21:07:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09152; Wed, 20 Sep 95 21:07:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00713; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 20:58:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 20:58:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mp.canuck.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00670; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 20:58:28 -0400 Received: from ccc030.canuck.com (ccc030.canuck.com [204.50.15.45]) by mp.canuck.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA07535; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 18:57:52 -0600 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 18:57:52 -0600 Message-Id: <199509210057.SAA07535@mp.canuck.com> X-Sender: dcrombie@canuck.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3b4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Tim Johnson From: dcrombie@canuck.com (David S. Crombie) Subject: Re: Zipdrive, PCMCIA SCSI Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU I have a 360C and just purchased a Zip drive. I bought a SCSI drive with an Adaptec slimSCSI PCMCIA card. Two reasons - speed was an issue for me - iomega states that it is '2-5' times as fast as the parallel. I am using it as another hard drive. The second reason was I was in California only briefly and needed something right away. The only ones available at the time (two weeks ago) were SCSI. Downside - extra cable linkup (weight) and $200 for PC Card. Excellent unit though. Iomega should downsize their AC adapter though - the drive weighs 1 pund and their adapter weighs as much or more (so it seems). David S. Crombie dcrombie@canuck.com 102035.3354@compuserve.com >I'm interested in getting a Zipdrive >for my TP755Cs, and am seeking some >suggestions and info. > >I know the Zipdrive comes in either the >SCSI flavor or the Parallel Port flavor. >The Parallel Port flavor seems more >portable (I can easily attach it to >other machines) but the SCSI is faster. > >So, my questions are - does anyone have >any suggestions about getting the parallel >port version vs the SCSI version? > >And for those people recommending SCSI, >do you have a PCMCIA SCSI adapter you can >recommend? (I am a grad student, so I >can't pony up a premium price, I'm afraid.) > >Thanks for any and all suggestions. > > -Tim > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 20 21:55:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11760; Wed, 20 Sep 95 21:55:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04464; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 21:49:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 21:49:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04447; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 21:49:40 -0400 Received: from inc.net by inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12616; Wed, 20 Sep 95 20:49:31 CDT Date: Wed, 20 Sep 95 20:49:30 CDT Message-Id: <9509210149.AA12616@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: josephw@inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Subject: Re: Zipdrive, PCMCIA SCSI David Crombie wrote: >Excellent unit though. Iomega should downsize their AC adapter though - the >drive weighs 1 pund and their adapter weighs as much or more (so it seems). > I believe Iomega just introduced a smaller AC unit, runs about $40. Sorry I can't say where I heard this but give Iomega or PC/MAC Connection (800-800-1111) a call Joe Wilson From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 20 22:37:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14421; Wed, 20 Sep 95 22:37:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07314; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 22:29:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 22:29:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from larry.infi.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07302; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 22:29:38 -0400 Received: by larry.infi.net (Infinet-S-3.3) id WAA04574; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 22:29:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 22:29:06 -0400 (EDT) From: James Biggerstaff To: "David S. Crombie" Cc: Tim Johnson , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Zipdrive, PCMCIA SCSI In-Reply-To: <199509210057.SAA07535@mp.canuck.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a 360C also, and am very happy with the Parallel flavor of the Zip. Faster is always better, of course, but the ability to hook up the drive to most any PC with the parallel cable is extremely useful. As a matter of fact, I just purchased my second parallel Zip, for general use in the office. CompUSA mispriced them as a 10 pack of disks and I got it for $ 170 vs the $ 219 they usually charge. Snarf, Snarf! The power adapter is indeed way too heavy. Iomega offers a more compact variety for $40. Jim Biggerstaff jimb@infi.net Norfolk, Virginia, USA ======================================================================== These profound insights are NOT freeware. If found useful, please send money within 30 days. ======================================================================== On Wed, 20 Sep 1995, David S. Crombie wrote: > I have a 360C and just purchased a Zip drive. I bought a SCSI drive with an > Adaptec slimSCSI PCMCIA card. Two reasons - speed was an iss for me - > iomega states that it is '2-5' times as fast as the parallel. [froomp] > > Excellent unit though. Iomega should downsize their AC adapter though - the > drive weighs 1 pund and their adapter weighs as much or more (so it seems). > > David S. Crombie > dcrombie@canuck.com > 102035.3354@compuserve.com > > >I'm interested in getting a Zipdrive > >for my TP755Cs, and am seeking some > >suggestions and info. > > > >I know the Zipdrive comes in either the > >SCSI flavor or the Parallel Port flavor. > >The Parallel Port flavor seems more > >portable (I can easily attach it to > >other machines) but the SCSI is faster. > > > >So, my questions are - does anyone have > >any suggestions about getting the parallel > >port version vs the SCSI version? > > > >And for those people recommending SCSI, > >do you have a PCMCIA SCSI adapter you can > >recommend? (I am a grad student, so I > >can't pony up a premium price, I'm afraid.) > > > >Thanks for any and all suggestions. > > > > -Tim > > > > > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 21 01:29:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25731; Thu, 21 Sep 95 01:29:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18296; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 01:17:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 01:17:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18284; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 01:16:59 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA29879; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 01:12:39 -0400 Message-Id: <9509210512.AA29879@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Griping about Iomega (was Re: Zipdrive, PCMCIA SCSI) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 01:12:39 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "James Biggerstaff" at Sep 20, 95 10:29:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text > Iomega offers a more compact [power adapter] for $40. Hmm... $40 for a power adapter that doesn't weight as much as the ZIP drive. $30 for the new ZIP Tools software that will work with Win95. A telephone tech-support person swore up and down to a friend of mine that the only way to get drivers for OS/2 was to buy them from Iomega for $20; no mention of downloading them from the net or their BBS. No more Tech Support forum on Iomega's BBS; they've moved it to AOL and MSN. What next, a $20 on/off switch? Maybe they'll sell labels at $1 each? Am I the only one that feels Iomega is trying to bleed the customer? -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 21 03:57:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07506; Thu, 21 Sep 95 03:57:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27124; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 03:43:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 03:43:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27111; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 03:43:10 -0400 Received: from mailhost.hooked.net (jesse@also.hooked.net [199.2.134.6]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA00963 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 00:42:56 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 00:42:56 -0700 Message-Id: <199509210742.AAA00963@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: Griping about Iomega (was Re: Zipdrive, PCMCIA SCSI) At 01:12 AM 9/21/95 -0400, Lew Jansen wrote: > What next, a $20 on/off switch? Maybe they'll sell labels at $1 each? > > Am I the only one that feels Iomega is trying to bleed the customer? Don't forget the $10 plastic 6-disk zip floppy holders :) About the smaller power adapter, I ordered mine friday afternoon from mac-connection (or whatever it is that the iomega number forwards you to) and they delivered it on saturday.. it's nice and small, also does 220 (the main reason I needed it). It doesn't plug directly into the wall however, it has a short (6 inches or so) power cable coming out of the unit, and you plug a standard power cable into that.. Nice arrangement, make it easy to move from place to place, don't need to hassle with trying to get a bulky adapter into a crowded powerstrip. ____________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 21 13:29:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12887; Thu, 21 Sep 95 13:29:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16236; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 13:14:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 13:14:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from insosf1.netins.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16224; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 13:14:26 -0400 From: Received: (from bpartner@localhost) by insosf1.netins.net id MAA14365 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 12:14:19 -0500 Received: from cc:Mail by bpartner.bpartners.dsm.ia.us id AA811710474 Thu, 21 Sep 95 12:07:54 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 95 12:07:54 Message-Id: <9508218117.AA811710474@bpartner.bpartners.dsm.ia.us> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: PCMCIA Token Ring? I am looking for a good PCMCIA Token Ring card that will run with OS/2 and Lan Server. What cards are available, and has anyone had any experiences installing such cards (good or bad)? Thanks Derrick Sharpe Broadcast Partners Des Moines, IA dsharpe@bpartners.dsm.ia.us From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 21 13:29:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13059; Thu, 21 Sep 95 13:29:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16564; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 13:18:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 13:18:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mercury.Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16554; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 13:18:05 -0400 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM by mercury.Sun.COM (Sun.COM) id KAA01548; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 10:17:16 -0700 Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA11939; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 10:17:10 -0700 Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27632; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 10:17:11 -0700 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06204; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 10:18:07 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 10:18:07 -0700 From: cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9509211718.AA06204@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, josephw@inc.net Subject: Re: Zipdrive, PCMCIA SCSI X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII So has anyone compared ZipDrives to EZDrives ? (Iomega and Syquest) ? Foolishly I thought that there was only one version of this an went down to Fry's to pick one up, only to find that there are two. Unfortunately very close inspection of the boxes did not reveal whether they are a) To very different systems b) The same base system packaged two ways c) Have interoperable media d) Require extra drivers e) Base media cost (I found a EZDisk for $19.87 though) --Chuck From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 22 11:20:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11394; Fri, 22 Sep 95 11:20:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11464; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 10:51:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 10:51:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.ucsd.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11453; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 10:51:56 -0400 Received: from conic.UUCP by mail.ucsd.edu; id HAA28897 sendmail 8.6.12/UCSD-2.2-sun via UUCP Fri, 22 Sep 1995 07:51:53 -0700 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <199509221451.HAA28897@mail.ucsd.edu> Received: from engineering/tomf by conic.loral.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.31 93.10.18) id 9045 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 07:26:39 PST 8 PDT From: TOMF@conic.loral.com (Tom Franklin Tom Franklin) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 07:26:36 +0000 Subject: Win-95 on a TP755C Cc: tomf@pwa.acusd.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Organization: Loral Conic/Terracom, San Diego, CA 92123 (619) 279-0411 I have noticed the following problems when trying to use Win-95 on my TP755C. If anyone has any solutions to these problems, please respond. 1. Hibernation won't work. 2. The 16 bit drivers for the Crystal Semiconductor sound chip don't work real well. (When playing pinball, the ball jerks around the screen when wave sound is played.) 3. The VESA driver must be loaded upon bootup to get 256 color support on the Rocket video chip. (It would be more elegant to have native support.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 22 11:23:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11669; Fri, 22 Sep 95 11:23:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12586; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:04:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:04:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12576; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:04:06 -0400 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00450; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:07:45 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:07:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Lew Jansen Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Griping about Iomega (was Re: Zipdrive, PCMCIA SCSI) In-Reply-To: <9509210512.AA29879@hepth.cornell.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 21 Sep 1995, Lew Jansen wrote: > Hmm... $40 for a power adapter that doesn't weight as much as the ZIP drive. > $30 for the new ZIP Tools software that will work with Win95. A telephone > tech-support person swore up and down to a friend of mine that the only way to > get drivers for OS/2 was to buy them from Iomega for $20; no mention of > downloading them from the net or their BBS. No more Tech Support forum on > Iomega's BBS; they've moved it to AOL and MSN. The driver thing is annoying, but the adaptor doesn't seem totally unreasonable - those ZIP drivers aren't running on a wide margin, it's probably cheaper to make the larger AC adaptor. And over the long term, software is _much_ more costly to support than hardware, so more money for Lose95 sounds reasonable to me. (Think of it as a penalty for bad taste in OSes) The support issue is usually a result of exclusivity agreements. Irritating, but nothing new - Compu$serve has been getting peopel to sign them for years. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "There's nothing wrong with Windows95 I can't fix by deleting it" - Me. ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 22 15:02:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25966; Fri, 22 Sep 95 15:02:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06038; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 14:49:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 14:49:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06018; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 14:48:53 -0400 Received: from mailhost.hooked.net (jesse@bass.hooked.net [199.2.134.18]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA03293; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:48:29 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 11:48:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199509221848.LAA03293@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: Zipdrive, PCMCIA SCSI Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU At 10:18 AM 9/21/95 -0700, Chuck McManis wrote: >So has anyone compared ZipDrives to EZDrives ? (Iomega and Syquest) ? Macweek or macuser did, don't remember which, but I read it on ziff's web page, www.ziff.com. EZ is faster, Zip has better features, was the upshot of it. ____________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 23 09:09:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07327; Sat, 23 Sep 95 09:09:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23084; Sat, 23 Sep 1995 09:01:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 23 Sep 1995 09:01:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pointer.netpoint.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23071; Sat, 23 Sep 1995 09:01:02 -0400 Received: from mailhub.netpoint.net (dppp02.netpoint.net [198.69.200.102]) by pointer.netpoint.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA09461 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 1995 08:58:35 -0400 Message-Id: <199509231258.IAA09461@pointer.netpoint.net> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.03a) From: Bill Schwartz To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 09:00:48 EST Reply-To: Bill Schwartz REVIEW TP750 HIGH PERFORMANCE CARTRIDGES INC PO BOX 545890 SURFSIDE, FL. 33154 Fax 1-305-864-7367 URL: http://www.netpoint.net/hpcart/hpcart.html From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 23 21:40:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28849; Sat, 23 Sep 95 21:40:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05822; Sat, 23 Sep 1995 21:26:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 23 Sep 1995 21:26:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mp.canuck.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05811; Sat, 23 Sep 1995 21:26:31 -0400 Received: from ccc010.canuck.com (ccc010.canuck.com [204.50.15.25]) by mp.canuck.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA07546; Sat, 23 Sep 1995 19:26:08 -0600 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 19:26:08 -0600 Message-Id: <199509240126.TAA07546@mp.canuck.com> X-Sender: dcrombie@canuck.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3b4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) From: dcrombie@canuck.com (David S. Crombie) Subject: Re: Zipdrive vs. EZDrive Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU I too looked at both of the units at Frys. What it came down to for me was weight - Zip is ~1 lb, EZDrive was closer to 3 lbs I think. Larger size as well. >So has anyone compared ZipDrives to EZDrives ? (Iomega and Syquest) ? >Foolishly I thought that there was only one version of this an went down >to Fry's to pick one up, only to find that there are two. Unfortunately >very close inspection of the boxes did not reveal whether they are > a) To very different systems > b) The same base system packaged two ways > c) Have interoperable media > d) Require extra drivers > e) Base media cost (I found a EZDisk for $19.87 though) > >--Chuck > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 24 20:38:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22791; Sun, 24 Sep 95 20:38:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27401; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 20:28:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 20:28:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from onyx.interactive.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27388; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 20:28:07 -0400 Received: from amethyst.interactive.net (daver@onyx.interactive.net [204.97.113.2]) by onyx.interactive.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA28949 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 20:29:44 -0400 Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 20:29:44 -0400 Message-Id: <199509250029.UAA28949@onyx.interactive.net> X-Sender: daver@interactive.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: "David W. Young" Subject: Re: IBM's Win95 SETUP disk At 05:38 PM 9/19/95 -0400, you wrote: > Whoops! Yes, that's correct. This disk appears to be ONLY for the 755's -- >TR750 owners appear to be left out in the cold. Be thankful you don't have a 720C like me, for which IBM hasn't offered support of any kind since 1993. Anyone else running 95 on this model TP? It's a damn pain in the ass since 95 doesn't have 32 bit drivers for everything (video, PCMCIA).. -- David W. Young, Internet Systems Consultant Tel: 201-798-5217 Pager: 917-313-9319 Internet: dwy@ACE.NET From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Sep 24 22:38:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00060; Sun, 24 Sep 95 22:38:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05881; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 22:25:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 22:25:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from PEAK.ORG by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05871; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 22:25:30 -0400 Received: from austen.PEAK.ORG (austen.PEAK.ORG [198.68.21.131]) by PEAK.ORG (8.6.12/8.6.7) with SMTP id TAA17372 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 19:25:18 -0700 Received: by austen.PEAK.ORG with Microsoft Mail id <01BA8AB3.D1B09660@austen.PEAK.ORG>; Sun, 24 Sep 1995 19:27:42 -0700 Message-Id: <01BA8AB3.D1B09660@austen.PEAK.ORG> From: Jim Lee To: "'tp750@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Mail mix-up Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 19:08:06 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, For those of you who have sent me mail in the past couple of weeks and = haven't received a reply, I apologize. My email address has changed = >from jlee@ece.orst.edu to leejim@peak.org. The forwarding didn't go as = smoothly as expected... :( From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 25 01:23:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10909; Mon, 25 Sep 95 01:23:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17679; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 01:13:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 01:13:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17669; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 01:13:49 -0400 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id HAA15885 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 07:13:13 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 07:13:13 +0200 Message-Id: <199509250513.HAA15885@ra.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpine@130.232.18.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: Re: difference 750c and 755?? >At 15:46 20-09-95 +0300, you wrote: >>>Well, >>> >>>The virtual screen has about the same properties as some of its X relatives, >>>apart from the fact that it is hardware based. This limits the screen to >>>1024x768. When you hit the border it scrolls - very fast. >>>This works on all kinds of WD90C24, I think... >>>On the later chip WD90C24a (?) you can have your internal display set at >>>a virtual desk, with the whole desk at 1024x768 on the external screen. > >Please tell me how I find out which one I have. > >> >>I found the drivers from vwtpe121.exe in pcco > >Where could I get this one? > >Thanks al lot in advance. > >jan > > > anonymous ftp to ftp.pcco.ibm.com -antti From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 25 09:57:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11765; Mon, 25 Sep 95 09:57:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26348; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:45:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:45:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26315; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:45:40 -0400 Received: from inc.net by inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15796; Mon, 25 Sep 95 08:45:23 CDT Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 08:45:21 CDT Message-Id: <9509251345.AA15796@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: josephw@inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Subject: 760 Advertisement The latest PC/Mac Connection call has lsitings for the new TP 760's. Unfortunately no prices ("call"). Spec's are as follows: 760C: 10.4" active matrix screen, 90MHz Pentium, 720 HD, Tilt keyboard w/ palm rest. 11.7"x8.3"x2", 6.4 Lbs. (IBM Part#9546-U22) 760C: 12.1" active matrix screen, 90MHz Pentium, 720 HD, Tilt keyboard w/ palm rest. 11.7"x8.3"x2", 7.3 Lbs. (IBM Part#9546-U21) 760CD: 12.1" active matrix screen, 90MHz Pentium, 1.2GB HD, Tilt keyboard w/ palm rest. 4X CD-ROM 11.7"x8.3"x2", 7.3 Lbs. (IBM Part#9546-U11) 760C: 12.1" active matrix screen, 120MHz Pentium, 720 HD, Tilt keyboard w/ palm rest. 11.7"x8.3"x2", 7.3 Lbs. (IBM Part#9546-U27) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 25 10:12:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12429; Mon, 25 Sep 95 10:12:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27888; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 10:04:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 10:04:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27876; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 10:04:03 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA17818; Mon, 25 Sep 95 10:04:13 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 95 10:04:13 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509251404.AA17818@nile.gnat.com> To: josephw@inc.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 760 Advertisement is the new 12.1" active screen definitely 1024 x 768? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 25 12:40:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22584; Mon, 25 Sep 95 12:40:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12209; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 12:27:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 12:27:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12196; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 12:26:54 -0400 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id RAA28152 (8.6.12/ for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU); Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:26:33 +0100 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:26:33 +0100 Message-Id: <199509251626.RAA28152@asimov.cnam.fr> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: need 720C drive Does someone have a drive for the 720 which they don't need, any size ? mine seems to have gone belly-up - Edmund. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 25 13:06:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24255; Mon, 25 Sep 95 13:06:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13856; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 12:55:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 12:55:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from steele.ohsu.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13842; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 12:55:12 -0400 Received: by steele.ohsu.EDU (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06204; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:54:47 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 09:54:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Sakaguchi X-Sender: sakaguch@steele To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Windows NT on TP755CX? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm thinking of loading NT onto my CX, but would like to get some info about how well the CX features will work (suspend, hibernation, 800x600 screen drivers, MWAVE, etc). Any help would be appreciated! Thanks! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ronald L. Sakaguchi, DDS, MS, PhD sakaguch@ohsu.edu Associate Professor 503 494-8692 Oregon Health Sciences University fax: 503 494-8260 Dept of Biomaterials & Biomechanics 611 SW Campus Drive, SD-503 Portland, OR 97201 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 25 14:12:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29201; Mon, 25 Sep 95 14:12:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18201; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 13:48:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 13:48:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18191; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 13:48:02 -0400 Received: from mailhost.hooked.net (jesse@webe.hooked.net [199.2.134.9]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA20825 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 10:47:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 10:47:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199509251747.KAA20825@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: 760 Advertisement At 08:45 AM 9/25/95 CDT, Joseph C. Wilson wrote: >The latest PC/Mac Connection call has lsitings for the new TP 760's. >Unfortunately no prices ("call"). Spec's are as follows: > >760C: 12.1" active matrix screen, 120MHz Pentium, 720 HD, Tilt >keyboard w/ palm rest. 11.7"x8.3"x2", 7.3 Lbs. >(IBM Part#9546-U27) WOW.. Do you have a number for pc/mac connection? I was getting ready to jump ship to the new compaqs coming out, but hoping all the while that ibm would do something like this :) I've heard about that tilt keyboard, but not seen any pictures, anyone know what it does? ____________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 25 16:46:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12195; Mon, 25 Sep 95 16:46:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02655; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 16:29:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 16:29:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom2.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02550; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 16:29:36 -0400 Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA25372; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 13:25:38 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 13:25:38 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199509252025.NAA25372@netcom2.netcom.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 760 Advertisement Cc: adam@yggdrasil.com, eric@goonsquad.spies.com, fox@first.cs.nyu.edu, webb@telebit.com The latest PC/Mac Connection call has lsitings for the new TP 760's. Unfortunately no prices ("call"). Spec's are as follows: 760C: 10.4" active matrix screen, 90MHz Pentium, 720 HD, Tilt keyboard w/ palm rest. 11.7"x8.3"x2", 6.4 Lbs. (IBM Part#9546-U22) 760C: 12.1" active matrix screen, 90MHz Pentium, 720 HD, Tilt keyboard w/ palm rest. 11.7"x8.3"x2", 7.3 Lbs. (IBM Part#9546-U21) 760CD: 12.1" active matrix screen, 90MHz Pentium, 1.2GB HD, Tilt keyboard w/ palm rest. 4X CD-ROM 11.7"x8.3"x2", 7.3 Lbs. (IBM Part#9546-U11) 760C: 12.1" active matrix screen, 120MHz Pentium, 720 HD, Tilt keyboard w/ palm rest. 11.7"x8.3"x2", 7.3 Lbs. (IBM Part#9546-U27) PC/Mac connection is at 1-800-800-0002. Prices for the above machines are $5649, $6329, $7719, and N/A, respectively. Availability date is listed as early October but I was advised to not take it seriously. The machines have a LiIon battery and space for a second battery. They have 28.8kbps Mwave modem firmware. The 12.1" screen is 800x600, *not* 1024x768 :-(. I like the idea of a palmrest but I think I'm going to see if 755CX's show up at closeout prices in the next few weeks. The 760 is a lot less interesting than it sounded, if it only has 800x600. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Sep 25 22:45:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09440; Mon, 25 Sep 95 22:45:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01073; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 22:29:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 22:28:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01062; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 22:28:50 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0sxPl1-00010BC; Mon, 25 Sep 95 19:28 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: MWave version 2.00 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad Users List) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 19:28:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text I downloaded version 2.00 of Mwave drivers from Compuserve this morning. I've already installed them under Windows 95, and I like them a lot better than those in v1.1! The highlights IMHO are: - V.34 modem with V.8 (28,800bps!) - Autostarting modem (no need to manually start the modem in startup folder) - Better optimization of the DSP when modem/sounds are in use - Better DSP support for games - Better behaviour in machines with >16 megs of memory. - Support for DSVD capability (Digital Simultaneous Voice & Data) in the modem As of this morning, these files were not availble on the FTP site, but I'll bet they will be in a day or so. The release notes follows: ============================================================================= September 20, 1995 IBM ThinkPad 755CD/CE/CSE/CX/CV/CDV MWave Version 2.00 ====================================================== Here are the files that relate to this release of Mwave code: MWD200-1.EXE Mwave version 2.00 for DOS - disk 1 of 2 MWD200-2.EXE Mwave version 2.00 for DOS - disk 2 of 2 MWW200-1.EXE Mwave version 2.00 for Windows - disk 1 of 2 MWW200-2.EXE Mwave version 2.00 for Windows - disk 2 of 2 MWO200-1.EXE Mwave version 2.00 for OS/2 Warp-disk 1 of 2 MWO200-2.EXE Mwave version 2.00 for OS/2 Warp-disk 2 of 2 MWV200-1.EXE Mwave version 2.00 Audio for Warp-disk 1 of 1 MWM100W1.EXE Mwave version 1.00 Midi Samples- disk 1 of 6 (Windows) MWM100O1.EXE Mwave version 1.00 Midi Samples- disk 1 of 6 (OS/2) MWM100-2.EXE Mwave version 1.00 Midi Samples- disk 2 of 6 MWM100-3.EXE Mwave version 1.00 Midi Samples- disk 3 of 6 MWM100-4.EXE Mwave version 1.00 Midi Samples- disk 4 of 6 MWM100-5.EXE Mwave version 1.00 Midi Samples- disk 5 of 6 MWM100-6.EXE Mwave version 1.00 Midi Samples- disk 6 of 6 The disks posted here are a complete release of Mwave and supersede all previous postings. If you have a DOS/Windows system, you only need to download the two Mwave for DOS disks and the two Mwave for Windows disks to upgrade to Mwave 2.00. Always install the DOS disks first. See below for Midi. In an OS2 environment prior to installing the Mwave version 2 code, please install 'ThinkPad System Management Device Driver' from the ThinkPad Utility disk by using the 'Device Driver Install' utility in OS/2. This is the AODBSMD.SYS driver and enables power to be turned on to the Mwave DSP. If you have Warp, you will need the two Mwave for OS/2 Warp disks and the Mwave Audio for Warp disk (MWV200-1). We have separated the Midi samples installation from the Windows install. These samples are the same as the Mwave 1.00 and 1.10 samples, so if you already have MIDI installed and working you won't need these disks. Note that there are two "disk 1"s; MWM100W1 is for installing the samples in a Windows environment and MWM100O1 is for installing in an OS/2 environment. Regardless of which environment you are using, the disks MWM100-2 through MWM100-6 always follow. The Midi install searches all harddrives for the MWAVE.INI files and updates pointers to the Midi samples. Therefore it is best to do this install last! We are working on a Persistent DOS modem patch and will post it when available. This patch is only for users who make a modem connection in DOS and then start Windows. Other users should not install this patch. ************************************************************************ SUMMARY OF NEW FUNCTIONS AND PROBLEM FIXES FOR Mwave RELEASES Note: In the Changed/Fixed Item list, . n.nn means disk version (e.g. 1.10 Version 1.10) . (New) means new function or enhancement Released Version ---------------- Version 1.00 Oct. 6 1994 Initial Release Version 1.10 Apr. 14 1995 2nd Release for - OS/2 Warp Support - Class 2 Fax Support - High Quality MIDI Synthesizer Support for OS/2 Warp - Corrective Services Changed/Fixed Items for 1.10 ---------------------------- 1.10 (New) OS/2 Warp Support 1.10 (New) Class 2 Fax Support 1.10 (New) High Quality MIDI Synthesizer Support for OS/2 Warp 1.10 When running certain applications in Windows, an out of memory message appears. (This fix was previously available from the PCC BBS as TPW102_1.EXE and TPW102_2.EXE.) 1.10 If &W0 & &W1 are used on one AT command line, only the last one actually works. (This fix was previously available from the PCC BBS as TPW102_1.EXE and TPW102_2.EXE.) 1.10 When attempting to use the Mwave Modem with Windows for Work Groups' Remote Access System (RAS), the connect result message is not properly recognized. 1.10 The Windows virtual COM driver doesn't find the modem active when starting Windows. 1.10 Speakerphone volume is too low on certain telephone lines (for example, Japanese lines). When the speaker volume is increased, the microphone gain would decrease. 1.10 Often seen as a "FAX back" problem, an incompatibility between the Mwave FAX modem and certain FAX machines (or FAX modems) exists. 1.10 When using any application to record WAV files, a clicking sound is audible at the beginning or end of the recording. 1.10 Some DOS communications applications are unable to access the COM ports. 1.10 When the quality of a connection on the phoneline decreases (often recognized by the presence of noise), the Mwave modem renegotiation is taking too long and sometimes causing the connection to be lost. 1.10 Modem data transfer rates are slow when compared to more conventional modems. Note: With older character mode protocols lower throughput data transfer will be experienced. If one of these protocols, such as XMODEM, must be used, some improvement may be achieved by turning off data compression before establishing the modem connection (by using the AT \N0 "H2 commands). The following table shows the improvements made in Mwave 2.0 release for Thinkpads. Changed/Fixed Items for 1.10 vs 2.00 ------------------------------------ USABILITY/QUALITY - Mwave Ver 1.10 - - Mwave Ver 2.00 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- No General Help General Help - Varying Help Content - Overview Help Interface - Dispersed/Unlinked Helps - Link to Context Specific Helps User Manually Starts Modem Auto-start modem Concurrency Conflicts and DSP Resource Contention Mgmt System Cryptic/Confusing MSGs - Predetermined Hierarchy of - "All Wave Devices in Use" Function - "MIDI Driver Not Installed" - Example: Modem > .WAV > MIDI - "Insufficient DSP Resources" - Varying Levels of Audio Quality Depending on Avail. Resources (eg. MIDI Voices: 24-16-8-0) - Auto Resume or Quality Boost Whenever Resources Become Avail - Reduce Cryptic/Confusing MSGs DOS Batch File Configuration DOS Configuration Utility - Sound Blaster Games - Advanced Modem DMA Limited to 16MB RAM in Mwave Function in Systems >16MB RAM Windows Systems - 2MB Reserved for DMA Transfer - Releasable on Demand Speakerphone Suspend Limitation Speakerphone Suspend Suppression - ThinkPad May Suspend if Inactive During Phone Call AUDIO - Mwave Ver 1.10 - - Mwave Ver 2.00 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 16 bit MPC Level 2 Compatible = Stereo/Mono = WAV Play/Record Windows Sound System Audio Compression = Simultaneous PCM Play/Record = Multiple .WAV Opens = 6 KHz to 44.1 KHz Sampling = Audio Applets Windows Sound System Mixer CD Audio Play = Sound Blaster Power Management Support for DOS General MIDI Compatible = Wavetable Sampled Sound Synthesis = Q-Sound Feature = MIDI Port (755CD) = MODEM/FAX/TELEPHONY - Mwave Ver 1.10 - - Mwave Ver 2.00 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Data Modem (up to V.32bis/14.4) Data Modem (up to V.34/28.8) Improved Modem Performance - 55% Thru-put Improv. vs 1.00 on Older (Xmodem) Protocols - Newer Pr'col: equal or better V.42, MNP Class 1-4 (Err Corr) = V.42bis, MNP Class 5 (Compr) = DOS Modem Support = 36 Character AT Command Limit 84 Character AT Command Limit FAX Modems (up to V.17/14.4) = Class 2 FAX Improved Application Compatibility Full Featured Telephone Enabled = Digital Answering Machine = Voice/FAX Discrim in Windows Voice/FAX/Modem Discrim in Windows Voice/FAX/Modem Discrim in OS/2 = Speakerphone Improved Speakerphone - Improved Volume & Quality - Less Dependent on Phone Line, Speaker, Mic, Position - Consumes Fewer DSP Resources Single Phone Line Capability = ************************************************************************ Installing Mwave 2.0 --------------------------- a. Mwave for DOS: - At a DOS prompt, not a DOS box in OS2 or Windows - Insert the Mwave for DOS disk 1 into the diskette drive. - Type "A:INSTALL" and press Enter. - Follow the instructions on the installation windows and insert additional disks when prompted. - If error messages appear at the end of installation, click OK and complete the installation. (Even though these messages may appear, the installation should be successful.) - When installation is complete, reboot your ThinkPad. - Type command FASTCFG to set defaults for Mwave modem or games at the command prompt b. Mwave for Windows: NOTE: Before you update Mwave for Windows, make sure that you installed Mwave for DOS. - From Windows Program Manager menu bar, select File and then select Run. - Insert the Mwave for Windows disk 1 into the diskette drive. - In the Command line entry box, type "A:SETUP" and press Enter. - Follow the instructions on the installation windows and insert additional disks when prompted. - If error messages appear at the end of installation, click OK and complete the installation. (Even though these messages may appear, the installation should be successful.) - When installation is complete, close Windows and reboot your ThinkPad. c. Mwave for OS/2 Warp*: - Insert the Mwave for OS/2 disk 1 into the diskette drive. - Go to an OS/2 window. - Type "A:SETUP" and press Enter. - Follow the instructions on the installation windows and insert additional diskettes when prompted. - After Mwave disk 2 has completed, shutdown OS/2 and reboot your ThinkPad. - Insert the MWV200-1 (Audio for Warp) in the diskette drive. - Go to an OS/2 window. - Type "A:SETUP" and press Enter. - Follow the instructions on the installation windows and install all support. - After install is finished, shutdown OS/2 and reboot your ThinkPad. * Note that "Multi Media Software Support" from Warp must be already installed. (This is not the same as "Multimedia Device Support")! d. Mwave Midi Samples -Start Windows or OS/2 a) If Windows insert MWM100W1 - File - Run - A:SETUP b) If Warp insert MWM100O1 - OS/2 Window - A:setup Follow with disks MWM100-2 thru MWM100-6 The following environments have been tested and are supported: -DOS (6.3 -DOS/Windows 3.11 -Win95 compatible mode (IE Windows 3.11 equivalent,16 bit support) -Warp -Warp Connect -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 26 02:45:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21316; Tue, 26 Sep 95 02:45:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA16212; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 02:37:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 02:37:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from deneb.dfn.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA16202; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 02:37:43 -0400 Received: from unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (rzgw.rz.fh-hannover.de) by deneb.dfn.de (4.1/SMI-4.2) id AA24648; Tue, 26 Sep 95 07:36:28 +0100 Received: from bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de by unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA34244; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 07:33:24 +0100 Received: by bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0sxTWk-000DOnC; Tue, 26 Sep 95 07:30 MET Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 07:30:02 +0100 (MET) From: Hanno Wagner To: Mehdi Attaran Cc: Thinkpad Users List Subject: Re: MWave version 2.00 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, On Mon, 25 Sep 1995, Mehdi Attaran wrote: > As of this morning, these files were not availble on the FTP site, but I'll > bet they will be in a day or so. where will they be on ftp? Here in germany, IBM told me there is no ftp site from them, so I can only upgrade via modem which I don't have or I have to buy a diskette for 70$ from a IBM seller... Ciao, Hanno -- Hanno Wagner, Student der Fachhochschule Hannover, Fachbereich IK email: wagner@www.bid.fh-hannover.de URL: http://www.bid.fh-hannover.de:80/~wagner/ IRC: Rince (usually on #germany or #muenster or #braunschweig) "This is also a story about sex and drugs and Music With Rocks In. Well... ...one out of three ain't bad." From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 26 08:22:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06682; Tue, 26 Sep 95 08:22:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15633; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 08:11:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 08:11:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns.ge.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15623; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 08:11:36 -0400 Received: from thomas.ge.com ([3.47.28.21]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA05050; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 08:11:33 -0400 Received: from stes02.sch.ge.com (stes02.sch.ge.com [3.72.108.134]) by thomas.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA05272; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 08:06:59 -0400 Received: from SMTPGW.SCH.GE.COM (smtpgw.sch.ge.com [3.10.206.1]) by stes02.sch.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA29670; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 08:11:30 -0400 Received: by SMTPGW.SCH.GE.COM with Microsoft Mail id <3067EE70@SMTPGW.SCH.GE.COM>; Tue, 26 Sep 95 08:13:36 edt From: "Pallante, Joseph" To: mehdi , tp750 Subject: RE: MWave version 2.00 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 08:09:00 edt Message-Id: <3067EE70@SMTPGW.SCH.GE.COM> Encoding: 23 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Strange... If it truly was released on Septemer 20, it is strange that the only place it is available nearly a WEEK later is Compuserve. Great news though! Can't wait to get a copy... Joe ---------- The release notes follows: ============================================================================= September 20, 1995 IBM ThinkPad 755CD/CE/CSE/CX/CV/CDV MWave Version 2.00 ====================================================== Here are the files that relate to this release of Mwave code: [Snip!] From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 26 11:38:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14652; Tue, 26 Sep 95 11:38:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04887; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 11:25:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 11:25:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from duvi.eskom.co.za by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04862; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 11:25:16 -0400 Received: from netman.eskom.co.za by duvi.eskom.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sxbs0-0001d8C; Tue, 26 Sep 95 17:24 RSA Received: from MP2NFS02/SpoolDir by netman.eskom.co.za (Mercury 1.21); 26 Sep 95 17:24:31 GMT+2 Received: from SpoolDir by MP2NFS02 (Mercury 1.21); 26 Sep 95 17:24:20 GMT+2 From: "Richard Ellerbrock" Organization: ESKOM Information Technology To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 17:24:12 GMT+2 Subject: SoundBlaster compatibility on 755c Reply-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za X-Confirm-Reading-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <3B4DA35C5@netman.eskom.co.za> This maybe a stupid question, but is there any way of getting SoundBlaster compatibility on a 755c? -- richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Richard Ellerbrock (ECNE) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 26 13:20:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22042; Tue, 26 Sep 95 13:20:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14553; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:05:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:05:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.crl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14537; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:05:40 -0400 Received: from mfischer.crl.com (crl13.crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA06073 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 26 Sep 1995 10:04:27 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 10:04:27 -0700 Message-Id: <199509261704.AA06073@mail.crl.com> X-Sender: mfischer@mail.crl.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Michael Fischer Subject: WIN 95 Screen Resolution All of a sudden (well, after I installed bios 1.20) I have a problem with my Thinkpad 360 CSE running Windows 95. Prior to this installation I was able to run (in Win 95) in 1024x768 mode on my Impression 5 SVGA monitor. After installation it told me I had a problem and now I can only run in 640 - 256 color or 800 - 16 color mode. In the display control pnael I shows I'm running Western Digital 4.0 display adapter and Super VGA 1024x768 monitor. Yet the slide switch shows only 640 and 800 modes. When I move the slide to 800 mode, it switches colors to 16. When I switch color back to 256 it switches the mode to 640 mode. I just reran IMBVESA vinstall to give me a 640, 800, and 1024 mode viodeo (although it already was at that), and confirmed on booting that this is the mode set up. Any ideas? TIA Michael Fischer From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 26 13:51:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23843; Tue, 26 Sep 95 13:51:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18079; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:42:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:42:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from aaRS.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18067; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:42:16 -0400 Received: by aaRS.mit.edu (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA24757; Tue, 26 Sep 95 13:31:42 -0400 From: "Arturo J. Morales" Message-Id: <9509261331.ZM24755@aaRS.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:31:41 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi! I recently acquired an 810mb HD (IBM Brand) and proceeded to reformat and partition it so that I could have a DOS/Windows/OS2 (FAT) partition and a Linux partition. After formating the Drive, (using MS-DOS 6.22) I only saw 770 megs... I figured that it had defaulted to a huge sector size or something like that and therefore ignored the problem... Now I'm trying to use Linux's FDISK to create a linux and swap partition and it seems that my HD and the partition table are very confused. Any sugestions? Should I reformat w/ PC-DOS? MS-DOS 6.3? Should I do a fdisk /mbr? I did format the disk once for HPFS (before this happened) and tried to intall dual boot in it. I could not figure it out, so i reformated w/ DOS (I think that the 770megs first appeared when I reformated for HPFS) If this sounds confusing, it is because I am... Thanks in advance... Art -- Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | art@aars.mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://minihelix.mit.edu/top.html | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 26 14:45:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27856; Tue, 26 Sep 95 14:45:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21943; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 14:10:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 14:10:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21920; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 14:10:16 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 14:09 EDT From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: art@aars.mit.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:31:41 -0400 from "Arturo J. Morales" Subject: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD From: "Arturo J. Morales" Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:31:41 -0400 I recently acquired an 810mb HD (IBM Brand) and proceeded to reformat and partition it so that I could have a DOS/Windows/OS2 (FAT) partition and a Linux partition. After formating the Drive, (using MS-DOS 6.22) I only saw 770 megs... I figured that it had defaulted to a huge sector size or something like that and therefore ignored the problem... Now I'm trying to use Linux's FDISK to create a linux and swap partition and it seems that my HD and the partition table are very confused. Any sugestions? Should I reformat w/ PC-DOS? MS-DOS 6.3? Should I do a fdisk /mbr? I went through this problem last week, with a Sigma Data drive. The Linux kernel (1.2.13) configured the drive geometry as 1571/16/63 (cylinders/heads/sectors) but DOS and OS/2 both configured it as 785/32/63. Consequently Linux fdisk was unhappy with the partition table that had been laid down by OS/2 fdisk. If I had done the partitioning with Linux, DOS and OS/2 would have been unhappy instead. Since I don't know how to control the DOS and OS/2 geometry configuration, I fixed the problem by forcing Linux to configure the drive the same way that DOS and OS/2 do: using the following line in my "/etc/lilo.conf" file: append="floppy=thinkpad hd=785,32,63" BTW, this has nothing to do with formatting. Only the partitioning and the disk geometry matter, and if the systems all agree on the geometry, then they will also agree on the partitioning. So don't reformat your DOS partition unless you have reason to believe that the data on it is corrupt. This also has nothing to do with 770 megabytes vs. 810 megabytes; the disk has about 811x10^6 bytes, which is roughly 773x2^20 bytes. It all depends what you mean by a "megabyte" -- disk manufacturers tend to use 10^6 bytes while fdisk uses 2^20. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 26 15:00:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28597; Tue, 26 Sep 95 15:00:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25748; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 14:36:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 14:36:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25692; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 14:36:30 -0400 Received: from rufus.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id LAA17241; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 11:36:01 -0700 Received: by rufus.UCSC.EDU (8.6.12/4.7) id LAA03220; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 11:35:59 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 11:35:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199509261835.LAA03220@rufus.UCSC.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dick@cats.ucsc.edu (Dick Terdiman) Subject: Advice on Thinkpad purchase Cc: dick@cats.ucsc.edu Dear Thinkpad users, I'm hoping for some advice concerning a new Thinkpad purchase, and I'd appreciate responses to the questions below, or any other ideas you have. Please respond directly to me (dick@cats.ucsc.edu) to save bandwidth on the net. Thanks very much for your help. 1. I'm looking to buy a 755-series machine with an active matrix screen, a Pentium processor, and a large hard drive. I understand the CD-equipped Thinkpad (755CD) is now a Pentium machine, but does NOT have the DSP features or the SVGA screen that the 755CX has. I have a SCSI-II 3x external CD player that I could connect via a PC (PCMCIA) card as I do with my current 720 Thinkpad. How important is it to have the CD built in vs. the DSP and SVGA capabilities of the 755CX? Is the SVGA screen really dynamite? 2. Are there further developments about to happen (new processor speeds; possible integrated "bay" arrangements [CD player; extra battery; floppy drive as on the NEC Versa 4000 series]; new screen resolutions or sizes; price changes) that I should know about to time my purchase right? 3. I can get an "education" discount from IBM PC Direct (4 percent). Where do you think I should look for best price among other vendors? Any vendor who consistently undersells and provides reliable sales? 4. I work with many people in the Windows environment. With my new machine should I expect problems upgrading to Windows 95? Is anyone selling the 755s with Windows 95 already installed? I know many people in this newsgroup love OS/2. But is it worth migrating? 5. How much memory should I get with my new machine? Who sells memory cheapest? 6. Where is best source for an Ethernet PC card for the new machine? How much should I expect to pay. Sorry about how elementary some of these questions are. I don't usually spend $5000 at one time, so I'm a bit timid, and I know there's lots of knowledge out there that could help me make the right choices. Please share yours with me. Thanks for your help. Dick Terdiman Literature Dept UC Santa Cruz dick@cats.ucsc.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 26 15:35:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00333; Tue, 26 Sep 95 15:35:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01793; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:22:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:22:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.vassar.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01779; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:22:24 -0400 Received: from cssun3 (cssun3.vassar.edu) by cs.vassar.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04028; Tue, 26 Sep 95 15:22:12 EDT From: manning@cs.vassar.edu (Joseph Manning) Received: by cssun3 (4.1) id AA00574; Tue, 26 Sep 95 15:22:25 EDT Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 15:22:25 EDT Message-Id: <9509261922.AA00574@cssun3> To: art@aars.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD In-Reply-To: Mail from '"Arturo J. Morales" ' dated: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:31:41 -0400 Cc: manning@cs.vassar.edu >>> From: "Arturo J. Morales" >>> Subject: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD >>> >>> I recently acquired an 810mb HD (IBM Brand) and proceeded to reformat and >>> partition it so that I could have a DOS/Windows/OS2 (FAT) partition and a Linux >>> partition. After formating the Drive, (using MS-DOS 6.22) I only saw 770 >>> megs... Arturo, IBM's so-called "810mb" disk is, in fact, an 810-million-byte disk. And 810,000,000 bytes = 772 mega-bytes. So maybe your re-partitioning worked correctly after all, and there's no "lost" space on your disk. It really stinks, the way some small-minded smart-ass marketing types at IBM and some other companies have decided to deceptively re-interpret "mb" to mean "million-byte" rather than "mega-byte", and introduce all this unnecessary confusion. Joseph Joseph Manning / Computer Science / Vassar College / manning@cs.vassar.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 26 16:53:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08811; Tue, 26 Sep 95 16:53:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10367; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:40:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:40:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mba.cba.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10357; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:40:25 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 16:40:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199509262040.QAA10357@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from mba ([128.174.133.74]) by mba.cba.uiuc.edu (post.office MTA v1.7.1.1 evaluation license) with SMTP id AAA141 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:40:15 -0500 X-Sender: schou@mba.cba.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Sean Chou Subject: Re: Windows NT on TP755CX? At 09:54 AM 9/25/95 -0700, you wrote: >I'm thinking of loading NT onto my CX, but would like to get some info >about how well the CX features will work (suspend, hibernation, 800x600 >screen drivers, MWAVE, etc). Any help would be appreciated! NT 3.51 supports PCMCIA, but other than that you'll be out of luck. To the best of my knowledge, there is no APM support, video drivers, or MWAVE drivers. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu Illinois MBA Web Page From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 26 17:14:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10003; Tue, 26 Sep 95 17:14:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14130; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 17:03:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 17:03:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14119; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 17:03:42 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 17:03 EDT From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: dick@cats.ucsc.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Tue, 26 Sep 1995 11:35:59 -0700 from dick@cats.ucsc.edu (Dick Terdiman) Subject: Advice on Thinkpad purchase Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 11:35:59 -0700 From: dick@cats.ucsc.edu (Dick Terdiman) I understand the CD-equipped Thinkpad (755CD) is now a Pentium machine, but does NOT have the DSP features or the SVGA screen that the 755CX has. Not sure about this, but I think the 755CD has the MWave DSP audio. You're correct, though, that it doesn't have the SVGA screen. 2. Are there further developments about to happen (new processor speeds; possible integrated "bay" arrangements [CD player; extra battery; floppy drive as on the NEC Versa 4000 series]; new screen resolutions or sizes; price changes) that I should know about to time my purchase right? The new 760C, about to be announced, is available in a model with both the SVGA screen and a built-in CD-ROM drive. Yesterday, someone quoted a $7700 price for this unit, from PC Connection. 3. I can get an "education" discount from IBM PC Direct (4 percent). Where do you think I should look for best price among other vendors? Any vendor who consistently undersells and provides reliable sales? I priced the 755CX/SVGA/810MB from several vendors this week. IBM Direct came out cheapest at $5039 ($5249 without the educational discount). Competing prices included $5050 (educational discount) >from USA Flex and $5199 (no discount) from PC Connection. I had wanted the unit with 1.2GB disk, but it is still unavailable. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 26 17:38:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11955; Tue, 26 Sep 95 17:38:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18019; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 17:30:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 17:30:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17963; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 17:30:05 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA02389; Tue, 26 Sep 95 17:30:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 17:30:15 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509262130.AA02389@nile.gnat.com> To: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu, dick@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: Re: Advice on Thinkpad purchase Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU the 755CD does have the MWAVE. One word of caution. The 755CD is noticably thicker than the 755CX. Make sure you like this extra thickness! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Sep 26 18:21:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14515; Tue, 26 Sep 95 18:21:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04166; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:40:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:40:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04145; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:40:18 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA00427; Tue, 26 Sep 95 15:40:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 15:40:27 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509261940.AA00427@nile.gnat.com> To: art@aars.mit.edu, manning@cs.vassar.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD " It really stinks, the way some small-minded smart-ass marketing types at IBM and some other companies have decided to deceptively re-interpret "mb" to mean "million-byte" rather than "mega-byte", and introduce all this unnecessary confusion." I think the confusion is inevitable, mega SHOULD mean a million. It was inevitably confusing to misuse these very standard prefixes in the computer contexts for no good reason. In fact IBM ads are always very clear that they are talking abvout millions of bytes, and frankly I think that is actually a clearer unit for most people than the rather odd 2**20! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 26 19:08:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17179; Tue, 26 Sep 95 19:08:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21255; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 14:02:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 14:02:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21243; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 14:02:05 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA16330; Tue, 26 Sep 95 14:02:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 14:02:19 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509261802.AA16330@nile.gnat.com> To: mfischer@crl.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 760 & max memory query does anyone know if the 760 allows more memory than 40 megs? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 26 21:42:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27025; Tue, 26 Sep 95 21:42:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06428; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 21:30:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 21:30:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06402; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 21:30:33 -0400 Received: from inc.net by inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28963; Tue, 26 Sep 95 20:30:28 CDT Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 20:30:27 CDT Message-Id: <9509270130.AA28963@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: josephw@inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Subject: Re: 760 & max memory query >does anyone know if the 760 allows more memory than 40 megs? > > RAM limit is still 40 megs Joe Wilson From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 26 21:42:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27031; Tue, 26 Sep 95 21:42:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06803; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 21:33:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 21:33:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06792; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 21:33:55 -0400 Received: from inc.net by inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28996; Tue, 26 Sep 95 20:33:51 CDT Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 20:33:50 CDT Message-Id: <9509270133.AA28996@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: josephw@inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Subject: Re: 760 Advertisement Do you have a number for pc/mac connection? 1-800-800-1111 > >I was getting ready to jump ship to the new compaqs coming out, but hoping >all the while that ibm would do something like this :) New Conpaq's are also listed in the Oct/Nov. catalog so you can do a little bit of comparison > >I've heard about that tilt keyboard, but not seen any pictures, anyone know >what it does? Nope From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 26 21:51:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27545; Tue, 26 Sep 95 21:51:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07515; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 21:42:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 21:42:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07504; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 21:42:20 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0sxlVo-00010BC; Tue, 26 Sep 95 18:42 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Re: Advice on Thinkpad purchase To: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 18:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9509262130.AA02389@nile.gnat.com> from "Robert Dewar" at Sep 26, 95 05:30:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > One word of caution. The 755CD is noticably thicker than the 755CX. Make > sure you like this extra thickness! Not to mention the extra pound of weight on the 755CD. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 26 22:17:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28629; Tue, 26 Sep 95 22:17:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09779; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 22:06:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 22:06:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tequesta.gate.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09763; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 22:05:59 -0400 Received: from navajo.gate.net (jbush@navajo.gate.net [199.227.0.15]) by tequesta.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA104678 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 22:02:08 -0400 Received: (from jbush@localhost) by navajo.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA25083; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 22:04:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 22:04:56 -0400 (EDT) From: James Bush To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: ram increase Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII using a tp755ce, base memory 8meg ram plus simple 8meg ram card. wish to increase ram to 32 megs. how do and what is the best way to do it with? thanks in advance jamie From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Sep 26 23:50:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07360; Tue, 26 Sep 95 23:50:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17756; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 23:36:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 23:36:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sentinel.synapse.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17744; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 23:36:47 -0400 Received: from violin-11.synapse.net (violin-11.synapse.net [199.84.52.227]) by sentinel.synapse.net (8.7/8.7) with SMTP id XAA03587 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 23:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 23:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199509270336.XAA03587@sentinel.synapse.net> X-Sender: phong@pop.synapse.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: phong@phsmc.synapse.net (Patrick Hong) Subject: Re: ram increase >using a tp755ce, base memory 8meg ram plus simple 8meg ram card. > >wish to increase ram to 32 megs. how do and what is the best way to do it >with? > Only way to 32MB is with the DIMM module and you would have to buy the 8MB and 16MB memory chips. If 24MB will suffice, you can buy the 16MB IC DRAM card. ______________________________________________________________________ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@phsmc.synapse.net (613) 769-1544 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 00:32:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09001; Wed, 27 Sep 95 00:32:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22095; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 00:24:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 00:24:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22083; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 00:24:10 -0400 From: Received: from shell1.best.com (shell1.best.com [204.156.128.10]) by blob.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA05841; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 21:24:07 -0700 Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA21884; Tue, 26 Sep 1995 21:24:06 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 21:24:06 -0700 Message-Id: <199509270424.VAA21884@shell1.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 120Mhz Pentium upgrade for 755CX?? To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: sandy@sandy.com X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 Anyone know yet if IBM plans to offer a 120Mhz Pentium upgrade for the 755 CE/CD/CX or is the soon-to-be-announced 760 represent the official "death" of the 750-755 series ThinkPads? _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ _ ( @ @ ) _ | |------.oOOo--()--oOOo.--------| | | | Internet : sandy@sandy.com | | | |--------------- Oooo.---------| | | | .oooO ( ) | | | | ( ) ) / | | | | \ ( (_/ | | | | \_) | | | | |\ _,,,---,,_ | | | | zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_.. | | | | |,*< ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' | | | | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | | ^ ^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 03:18:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03496; Wed, 27 Sep 95 03:18:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA29317; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 03:04:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 03:04:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ub4b.eunet.be by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA29296; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 03:04:28 -0400 Received: from gate.eurocontrol.be by ub4b.eunet.be (ub4b_08) id AA04074; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 08:06:44 +0100 Received: from hp817s2.mis.eurocontrol.be by gate.eurocontrol.be with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA011386142; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 08:15:42 +0100 Received: from MISSMTP1 (missmtp1.mis.eurocontrol.be) by hp817s2.mis.eurocontrol.be with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA129595338; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 08:02:18 +0100 Received: by MISSMTP1 with Microsoft Mail id <3068E915@MISSMTP1>; Wed, 27 Sep 95 08:03:01 DST From: "PELLATT David, DED/2" To: TP750 Subject: Linux & X on TP755CX Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 08:06:00 DST Message-Id: <3068E915@MISSMTP1> Encoding: 13 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Can anyone help me out here ? I've installed Linux on a TP755CX without any hitches and I now have X running but only in 640x480 (though the virtual screen seems to be ok). X complains, something about "dot clock" speeds (?), and discards any attempts to get it to recognise 800x600. I guess there are parameters that I have to set in the XF86Config file; what do they have to be to get the full resolution ? Is anyone out there happily running X to 800x600 on a 755CX ? Thanks, Dave Pellatt From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 04:23:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23601; Wed, 27 Sep 95 04:23:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06655; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 04:11:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 04:11:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06641; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 04:10:57 -0400 Received: from cassandra.acru.uq.oz.au (actually cassandra.geosp.uq.edu.au) by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP (PP); Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:10:21 +1000 Received: by cassandra.acru.uq.oz.au (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12213; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:10:19 +1000 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:10:19 +1000 (EST) From: Sven Dowideit Subject: subscribe To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII please re-subscribe me our host was obviously down (or something of that nature) svend =============================================================================== Sven Dowideit svend@cassandra.acru.uq.oz.au Applied Climate Research Unit PH 365 4101 (work) University of Queensland 289 2325 (home) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 07:07:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00217; Wed, 27 Sep 95 07:07:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25147; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 06:54:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 06:54:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25137; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 06:54:27 -0400 Received: from haralds.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/Task/HJ-5) id AA039699251; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:54:12 +0100 Received: by haralds.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/HJ/Task-5) id AA277149250; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:54:10 +0100 From: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) Message-Id: <199509271054.AA277149250@haralds.cs.uit.no> Subject: Re: MWave version 2.00 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:54:09 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: from "Hanno Wagner" at Sep 26, 95 07:30:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have just installed Mwave2.00. It wiped out all the countries in "Country Selection" except Japan and US/Canada. As it happends I live in Norway and my Mwave modem now only says "BUSY". I tried to copy back the old datafiles in C:\MWW\WORLDTRD. I can now select "Norway" but I get the message: MWME0001: Mwave Modem Internal Error Primary Code:5(0x0005) Secondary Code:4294967283(0xfffffff3) File:MWMSPCFC.C Line:4267 Anyone outside US/Japan got MWave2.00 up and running? -- //// Harald Skotnes // Email: harald@staff.cs.uit.no / /// Dept. of Computer Science // Phone: +47 77 64 41 16 // // University of Tromsoe // Fax: +47 77 64 40 54 /// / N-9037 TROMSOE NORWAY // Like it or not, it's One World //// From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 07:26:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00454; Wed, 27 Sep 95 07:26:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA25769; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 07:14:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 07:14:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA25758; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 07:14:26 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA09036; Wed, 27 Sep 95 07:14:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 07:14:14 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509271114.AA09036@nile.gnat.com> To: harald@staff.cs.uit.no, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: MWave version 2.00 I am using the Mwave modem in the US (the old 14.4) with no problems. I will shortly be traveling to Germany and England, what do I need to sucessfully use the Mwave modem there to call back to the US and connect? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 07:56:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06546; Wed, 27 Sep 95 07:56:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27312; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 07:45:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 07:45:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27295; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 07:45:13 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA09096; Wed, 27 Sep 95 07:45:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 07:45:16 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509271145.AA09096@nile.gnat.com> To: harald@staff.cs.uit.no, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: MWave version 2.00 what exactly is the Telephony Kit for the 755CD, do I need it for my purposes (traveling in Germany and England, calling back to the US?) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 08:48:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08607; Wed, 27 Sep 95 08:48:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26582; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 07:30:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 07:30:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26559; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 07:30:31 -0400 Received: from haralds.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/Task/HJ-5) id AA088171423; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:30:24 +0100 Received: by haralds.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/HJ/Task-5) id AA278391422; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:30:22 +0100 From: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) Message-Id: <199509271130.AA278391422@haralds.cs.uit.no> Subject: Re: MWave version 2.00 To: dewar@nile.gnat.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:30:22 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <9509271114.AA09036@nile.gnat.com> from "Robert Dewar" at Sep 27, 95 07:14:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I am using the Mwave modem in the US (the old 14.4) with no problems. I > will shortly be traveling to Germany and England, what do I need to > sucessfully use the Mwave modem there to call back to the US and connect? > When I finally got the Telephony Kit for the 755CD there was a diskette called: IBM Thinkpad 755CE/755CD Mwave DSP Telephony Diskette. Version1.10. This diskette containes a lot of files called WTTBL0XX.DAT which gives you the oppurtunity to select different countries in the "Country Selection". You have to install this. I have now read the MWAVE200.DOC file and it says something like: "Do not install MWAVE200 if you plan to use your modem in any other countries than Japan/US/Canada." So much for being in a hurry getting the latest update of everything :( -- //// Harald Skotnes // Email: harald@staff.cs.uit.no / /// Dept. of Computer Science // Phone: +47 77 64 41 16 // // University of Tromsoe // Fax: +47 77 64 40 54 /// / N-9037 TROMSOE NORWAY // Like it or not, it's One World //// From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 09:03:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09110; Wed, 27 Sep 95 09:03:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00935; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 08:51:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 08:51:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mwunix.mitre.org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00925; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 08:51:12 -0400 Received: from cyclone.mitre.org (cyclone.mitre.org [128.29.86.13]) by mwunix.mitre.org (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id IAA24290 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 08:51:09 -0400 Received: from mbppp38.mitre.org by cyclone.mitre.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12724; Wed, 27 Sep 95 08:51:08 EDT Message-Id: <9509271251.AA12724@cyclone.mitre.org> X-Sender: dhite@cyclone X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:52:55 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: David Hite Subject: Problems with Mwave 2.0 I copied the following message from the Compuserve Thinkpad forum. =========================== start of included message ===================== Right now the 28.8 modem is only homologated in the US, Canada and Japan... Other countrys will follow, but I don't know which ones or when... There should have been a section in the MWAVE200.DOC file that mentioned this - I will add one in now and also a news flash - and I'll get the document revised officially... sorry about that... no way that I know of to use the V.34 modem outside of the US, Canada and Japan at the moment... I will look into what files are required to go back to the V.32bis modem tomorrow at work... Mike Anderson, ThinkPad Forum Sysop IBM PC Co Mobile Products Tech Support 7:33 PM, Tuesday, September 26, 1995 ============================ end of included message ====================== I have no idea what "homologated" means. Does anybody else? David From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 09:35:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10335; Wed, 27 Sep 95 09:35:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02209; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:12:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:12:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02199; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:12:37 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA6670; Wed, 27 Sep 95 09:06:09 -0700 Message-Id: <9509271606.AA6670@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id FA42E8660D01E383852562440046F80B; Wed, 27 Sep 95 09:06:09 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 27 Sep 95 9:08:08 EDT Subject: Re: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....at IBM and some other companies have decided to deceptively re-interpret "mb" to mean "million-byte" rather than "mega-byte", and introduce all...." ~~~~~ it gets worse. any drive manufacturer will sell you a 540,000,000 byte drive as a 540 megabytes. dos chkdsk will show you roughly 540,000,000 bytes. fdisk will show you roughly 527,000 KB. your cmos will show you roughly 514MB. all accurate calculations considering they'll always show 1000s & always hide 1024s. i agree that it's deliberately deceptive. older, smaller drives often have more honest labels. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 09:36:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10349; Wed, 27 Sep 95 09:36:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04143; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:28:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:28:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom14.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04132; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:28:00 -0400 Received: by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id GAA15707; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 06:24:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 06:24:28 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199509271324.GAA15707@netcom14.netcom.com> To: dhite@mitre.org, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 Homologated for country X means adapted for the technical requirements of that country's phone system; and/or, approved for use in country X by whoever runs country X's phone system. Phone systems do differ slightly in ways that affect modems and non-homologated modems intended for the US market sometimes work in other countries, but not always reliably. In principle one can get in trouble for using a non-approved modem in some countries, but it doesn't happen much in practice. --Paul (former employee of a modem company) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 09:55:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12195; Wed, 27 Sep 95 09:55:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05623; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:42:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:42:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from park.interport.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05611; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:42:16 -0400 Received: from interport.net (madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by park.interport.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA23826 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:42:13 -0400 Received: (from alster@localhost) by interport.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id JAA19993; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:42:11 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:42:10 -0400 (EDT) From: aoster Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 In-Reply-To: <9509271251.AA12724@cyclone.mitre.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Uhm...is MWave 2.0 only available off of Compuserve at the moment? If so, I think it's time to do one of those many trial account disk packs I have :) On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, David Hite wrote: > I copied the following message from the Compuserve Thinkpad forum. > =========================== start of included message ===================== > Right now the 28.8 modem is only homologated in the US, Canada and Japan... > Other countrys will follow, but I don't know which ones or when... There > should have been a section in the MWAVE200.DOC file that mentioned this - I > will add one in now and also a news flash - and I'll get the document > revised officially... sorry about that... no way that I know of to use the > V.34 modem outside of the US, Canada and Japan at the moment... I will look > into what files are required to go back to the V.32bis modem tomorrow at work... > > Mike Anderson, ThinkPad Forum Sysop > IBM PC Co Mobile Products Tech Support > 7:33 PM, Tuesday, September 26, 1995 > ============================ end of included message ====================== > > I have no idea what "homologated" means. Does anybody else? > > David > > http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 09:58:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12382; Wed, 27 Sep 95 09:58:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06532; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:49:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:49:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06495; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:49:28 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA12523; Wed, 27 Sep 95 09:49:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 09:49:48 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509271349.AA12523@nile.gnat.com> To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD Michael, you say that older smaller drives have more honest labels, but why should you think that the peculoiar computer use of mega-byte which is a misuse of a prefix with centuries of precedent is more honest. I personally prefer the reversion to the standard use of mega for disks. That's because the "small" discrepancy between 1024 and 1000 becomes larger and hard to figure for multi-gigabyte disks. Real data use is related to the real world, for example, if I have a document that is a million characters long, it needs a million characters of disk storage, not a megabyte in the "wrong" computer sense. I find the claim that this is deliberately deceptive to be without foundation! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 10:03:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12547; Wed, 27 Sep 95 10:03:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06232; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:46:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:46:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06219; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 09:46:24 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA12430; Wed, 27 Sep 95 09:46:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 09:46:26 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509271346.AA12430@nile.gnat.com> To: dhite@mitre.org, phr@netcom.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 homologate is an unusual word, but an old one. From OED-2, the meaning that applies is 1b spec. in Sc. Law. To ratify or rebder valid (a deed in itself defective or informal) by some subsequent act which expresses or implies assent to it. First reference is 1765 Its use in this context seems wrong. I don't know who at IBM loves long words without quite understanding them :-) There is a lot to be said for plain language! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 10:39:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14577; Wed, 27 Sep 95 10:39:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10623; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:25:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:25:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10599; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:25:11 -0400 Received: from inc.net by inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02421; Wed, 27 Sep 95 09:25:05 CDT Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 09:25:04 CDT Message-Id: <9509271425.AA02421@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: josephw@inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Subject: Re: ram increase >using a tp755ce, base memory 8meg ram plus simple 8meg ram card. > >wish to increase ram to 32 megs. how do and what is the best way to do it >with? Order DIMM Adapter and DIMM memory modules from IBM. Using IC-DRAM cards limits you to, I believe, 24 megs. I am not positive about this, but I think you can only get the DIMM Adapter & modules from IBM. Anyone able to provide more info on this? Joe Wilson From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 11:30:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17386; Wed, 27 Sep 95 11:30:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16933; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:15:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:15:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from park.interport.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16918; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:15:42 -0400 Received: from interport.net (madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by park.interport.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA03720 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:15:39 -0400 Received: (from alster@localhost) by interport.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id LAA03455; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:15:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 11:15:36 -0400 (EDT) From: aoster Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 In-Reply-To: <9509271346.AA12430@nile.gnat.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU oh shaddup :) *duck* On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > homologate is an unusual word, but an old one. From OED-2, the meaning > that applies is 1b > > spec. in Sc. Law. To ratify or rebder valid (a deed in itself defective > or informal) by some subsequent act which expresses or implies assent to it. > > First reference is 1765 > > Its use in this context seems wrong. I don't know who at IBM loves long words > without quite understanding them :-) There is a lot to be said for plain > language! > http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 11:43:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18016; Wed, 27 Sep 95 11:43:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11775; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:32:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:32:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom18.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11758; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:32:19 -0400 Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA18882; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 07:27:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 07:27:30 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199509271427.HAA18882@netcom18.netcom.com> To: dewar@nile.gnat.com, dhite@mitre.org, phr@netcom.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 homologate is an unusual word, but an old one. From OED-2, the meaning that applies is 1b ... Its use in this context seems wrong. I don't know who at IBM loves long words without quite understanding them :-) There is a lot to be said for plain language! Homologate and homologation are well-accepted terms in modem standards jargon. They are probably used in other areas of international product development as well. They are technical terms and it doesn't much matter what the OED says about their non-technical meanings. The OED may say something about "homology" too, but what it says probably wouldn't shed much light on what a mathemetician means by "homology". And its definitions of "stack" or "tree" probably wouldn't be of much help in reading a computer science text. :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 12:53:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24889; Wed, 27 Sep 95 12:53:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10101; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:22:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:22:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10083; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:22:25 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA7109; Wed, 27 Sep 95 10:15:56 -0700 Message-Id: <9509271715.AA7109@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 533D17DFF60101BC85256244004C7B63; Wed, 27 Sep 95 10:15:53 To: Robert Dewar Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 27 Sep 95 10:19:28 EDT Subject: Re: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....Michael, you say that older smaller drives have more honest labels, but why should you think that the peculoiar computer use of mega-byte which is a misuse of a prefix with centuries of precedent is more honest. I personally prefer the reversion to the standard use of mega for disks. That's because the "small" discrepancy between 1024 and 1000 becomes larger and hard to figure for multi-gigabyte disks. Real data use is related to the real world, for example, if I have a document that is a million characters long, it needs a million characters of disk storage, not a megabyte in the "wrong" computer sense. I find the claim that this is deliberately deceptive to be without foundation!...." ~~~~~~~~~~ it is more honest precisely because of the centuries of precedent. if "MB=million bytes" were a new standard, then I'd agree with you that it's better, but the point is that it's not standard. As long as os utilities, system board bios's, and software packages' "system requirements lists" show disk capacity in different terms than the disk manufacturer, then there is no standard. if there were a change in the standard, that would have been great because, yes, people do understand thousands better than k's, but the fact is that showing disk capacity in million bytes and calling it "MB" is deceptive to anyone who is familiar with disk capacity, and, as luck would have it, it's deceptive in favor of the disk manufacturer. he gets to put a larger number on his disk than the one that most people are familiar with and most software will reflect. spare me the martyr speech about how disk manufacturers are trying to make life easy for the end user. they're doing the same thing canned food manufacturers are doing when, rather than raise the price of an 8oz can, they start selling 7.5oz cans that don't look any different. if they use "MB" which has always meant megabyte, and still does to bios engineers and software developers, then they are being deliberately deceptive. if the advantage were in favor of the consumer, they would not be making an unprofitable change just for our sake. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 13:01:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25627; Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:01:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28194; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:50:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:50:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28172; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:49:56 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA16881; Wed, 27 Sep 95 12:48:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 12:48:42 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509271648.AA16881@nile.gnat.com> To: dhite@mitre.org, phr@netcom.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 the fact that these are well-accepted terms in modem standards jargon does not make it an acceptable usage. Whoever coined this term did not really know what the workd means. The point is that general use of this term is confusing. As for stack in the OED, I would use meaning 1.f from OED 2 In a computer or a calculator, a set of registers or storage locations which store data in such a way that the most recently stored item is the first to be retrieved; also, a list of items so stored, a push-down list. First citation: 1960 E. W. Dijkstra in Numericshe Math II.312 Don't be so quick to assume things about the OED! :-) For tree, the definition you want is 6b Any structure or figure, natural or artificial, of branched form. In the citations for 6b usage, we find: 1978 Nature 24 Aug 745/1. The amount of work involved in searching a tree of moves is B[superscript]D, where B (the branching factor) is the average number of alternatives throughout the tree, and D is the depth of search. Furthermore, in both the tree and stack case, you can find old traditional meanings which are a good match conceptually for the modern CS usages. This is NOT true of homologize! Anyway, to my mind, any jargon not in OED-2 is VERY suspect (OED-2 is more "with it" than you think, look up for examples, the perfect definitions of bug and kludge in the computery sense). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 13:02:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25633; Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:02:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28199; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:50:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:49:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28173; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:49:57 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA16900; Wed, 27 Sep 95 12:50:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 12:50:12 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509271650.AA16900@nile.gnat.com> To: josephw@inc.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: ram increase "Using IC-DRAM cards limits you to, I believe 24 megs" True if you order from IBM, but 3rd party 32-meg cards are common, you can get them for under $1500, and this may end up being not that much more epxnsive than going the DIMM route for 32 meg total. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 13:24:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27496; Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:24:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29222; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:03:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:03:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29211; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:03:36 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:03 EDT From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: dewar@nile.gnat.com Cc: josephw@inc.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Wed, 27 Sep 95 12:50:12 -0400 from dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Subject: ram increase Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 12:50:12 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) "Using IC-DRAM cards limits you to, I believe 24 megs" True if you order from IBM, but 3rd party 32-meg cards are common, you can get them for under $1500, and this may end up being not that much more epxnsive than going the DIMM route for 32 meg total. FYI: I was quoted $1124 for a Kingston 32MB card earlier this week. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 13:32:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28383; Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:32:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00564; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:20:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:20:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00529; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:20:45 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA17203; Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:21:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:21:06 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509271721.AA17203@nile.gnat.com> To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com Subject: Re: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU centuries of experience with mega meaning 2**20 ????? excuse me, I think not, try 20 years (you can't even go back as far as the first computers, since it took a while for computers to get up into the mega region for anything!) on the other hand mega = 10**6 dates from Napoleon! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 13:32:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28388; Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:32:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00636; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:21:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:21:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00621; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:21:27 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA17214; Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:21:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:21:40 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509271721.AA17214@nile.gnat.com> To: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Subject: Re: ram increase Cc: josephw@inc.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU can you give the souce for the $1124 for th Kingston 32 meg card, was this new? it seems definitely below market prices. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 13:34:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28570; Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:34:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00979; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:25:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:25:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00958; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:25:08 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27606; Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:24:30 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0048; Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:23:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:23:45 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9509271723.AA0048@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: dewar@nile.gnat.com Cc: josephw@inc.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:21:40 -0400 from dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Subject: ram increase Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:21:40 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) can you give the souce for the $1124 for th Kingston 32 meg card, was this new? it seems definitely below market prices. This is a new part from Impediment Inc.; call 617-834-3800 or see their web page at http://www.impediment.com/. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 13:55:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00148; Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:55:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02516; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:43:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:43:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02480; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:42:44 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA8334; Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:35:57 -0700 Message-Id: <9509272035.AA8334@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 55E84B745CDFC2B78525624400606CD0; Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:35:55 To: Robert Dewar Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 27 Sep 95 13:39:21 EDT Subject: Re: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....excuse me, I think not, try 20 years (you can't even go back as far as the first computers, since it took a while for computers to get up into the mega region for anything!)...." ~~~~~~~~~~ i figured you meant decades, but i don't care to correct diction in matters of substance, so i decided to leave it alone. i see now that you meant 10**6 has centuries of precedent. well, yes, but not in matters of drive capacity, and 1024 has decades of precedent and is the only standard that has ever existed for measuring drive capacity. after clearing up the century/decade miscommunication, i still stand behind everything in my last post. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 14:04:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00321; Wed, 27 Sep 95 14:04:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03344; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:53:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:53:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom2.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03327; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:53:51 -0400 Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id KAA19297; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:50:18 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:50:18 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199509271750.KAA19297@netcom2.netcom.com> To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, dewar@nile.gnat.com Subject: Re: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU centuries of experience with mega meaning 2**20 ????? excuse me, I think not, try 20 years (you can't even go back as far as the first computers, since it took a while for computers to get up into the mega region for anything!) on the other hand mega = 10**6 dates from Napoleon! Ok, fine. Next time you buy a 16 meg ram card and only 16,000,000 of the addresses work instead of 16,777,216, don't complain. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 14:32:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07131; Wed, 27 Sep 95 14:32:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05476; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 14:22:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 14:22:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05465; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 14:22:13 -0400 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA29626; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:56:33 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:56:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Web page Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My incompetent net provider apparently can't figure out that they shouldn't use obvious words as the root password, and me entire home directory here went byebye. This includes the TP750 page, so any of you looking for data are in for a rude shock. I think this may be a sign from Grod that it's time to Get Serious about a better page. Look for a letter looking for information, graphics and suggestions in the next day or two. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 15:21:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15800; Wed, 27 Sep 95 15:21:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08989; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:07:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:07:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08975; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:07:07 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.32] (mac32.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA16864; Wed, 27 Sep 95 15:07:03 EDT Message-Id: <9509271907.AA16864@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:21:07 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD This mega-shootout has to be a new high-water mark for silly arguments in this group!:) ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 15:35:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17129; Wed, 27 Sep 95 15:35:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11348; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:24:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:24:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11322; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:24:41 -0400 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id UAA16093 (8.6.12/); Wed, 27 Sep 1995 20:23:32 +0100 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 20:23:32 +0100 Message-Id: <199509271923.UAA16093@asimov.cnam.fr> To: dhite@mitre.org, phr@netcom.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 sometimes one does have problems with modems that do not use the right "guard" tones - usually us models have the advantage of better testing from the signal side, but less robust line interfaces ... just my 2c Edmund. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 15:38:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17659; Wed, 27 Sep 95 15:38:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11777; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:27:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:27:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11764; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:27:39 -0400 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id UAA16158 (8.6.12/); Wed, 27 Sep 1995 20:25:48 +0100 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 20:25:48 +0100 Message-Id: <199509271925.UAA16158@asimov.cnam.fr> To: dewar@nile.gnat.com, dhite@mitre.org, phr@netcom.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 homologate is probably a piece of ITU jargon carried over to IBM use. ie. a proposal eg. V34 is homologated and turns into a norm ? Edmund. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 15:40:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17688; Wed, 27 Sep 95 15:40:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12020; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:30:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:30:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11978; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:30:06 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA18006; Wed, 27 Sep 95 15:28:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 15:28:30 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509271928.AA18006@nile.gnat.com> To: dhite@mitre.org, eronald@cnam.fr, phr@netcom.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 "ie a proposal eg. V34 is homologated and turns into a norm? this is in fact a legitimate usage Note: I would guess the homologate thread competes pretty well for high-water mark silliness with the mega-shootout :-) :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 17:00:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17883; Wed, 27 Sep 95 17:00:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20857; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:44:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:44:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from maple.enet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20802; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:44:22 -0400 Received: from .qrz.com (slip1.qrz.com [199.245.125.40]) by maple.enet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA23137; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:44:51 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:42:48 PDT From: steve gross Subject: unsubscribe To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubcribe to mailing list Stephen C. Gross Pilot B737 America West Airlines From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 17:09:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19893; Wed, 27 Sep 95 17:09:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22169; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:55:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:55:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nynexst.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22117; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:55:15 -0400 Received: from insight.nynexst.com by nynexst.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.nynexst) id AA00577; Wed, 27 Sep 95 16:54:39 EDT Received: from localhost by insight.nynexst.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19929; Wed, 27 Sep 95 16:56:50 EDT Message-Id: <9509272056.AA19929@insight.nynexst.com> To: manning@cs.vassar.edu (Joseph Manning) Cc: art@aars.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 26 Sep 1995 15:22:25 EDT." <9509261922.AA00574@cssun3> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5omega 10/6/94 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:56:49 -0400 From: Gen Cerf I think there might be some (alot of!) confusion here with respect to the disk size discussion... 1) One million bytes is ALWAYS equal to 1 Megabyte... let's not rewrite the math books to fit the problem! 2) If the drive were actually 810 Megabytes large instead of 810 Megabits then that would be equal to 8 * 810 * 10**6 = 6480 * 10**6 = 6480 Megabits (which btw = 6.48 Gigabits) If it's 810 Megabits, then that's equal to (810/8) * 10**6 = 101.25 Megabytes. Either way, it doesn't add up to 770 or 772... Just to clarify further, disc sizes are usually give in Megabytes. The abbreviations are supposed to be: MB = Megabytes and Mb = Megabits but these are often confused. 3) Although physical memory and disk sizes are actually configured in binary increments, i.e. 2**10 = 1024, they are commonly rounded off to the nearest decimal multiple of K or M bits or bytes. But this is only a ROUNDOFF issue, and generally the roundoff is in the downward direction, i.e. 10 Megs is really 1,024,000 16 K is really 16,384 etc.. 4) So where did all that disk space (810 - 770) actually go? The key phrase here was: "After formatting the drive..." Yep, that's the byte eater... the formatting process automatically reserves alot of space for administering the file system, for spare tracks, etc. typicallly 10% or more of your brand new disk! Bummer... Gen PS: I never introduced myself but I have a Thinkpad 755 something which I know very little about, which is why I don't generally contribute to these discussions... but I get alot out of them in terms of Thinkpad info, so thanks, all! ----------------------------------------------------- Genevieve Cerf, Ph.D. E.E. Speech Recognition & Language Understanding Services NYNEX Science & Technology 500 Westchester Avenue White Plains, NY 10604 (914) 644-2407 FAX: (914) 644-2211 gen@nynexst.com > >>> From: "Arturo J. Morales" > >>> Subject: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD > >>> > >>> I recently acquired an 810mb HD (IBM Brand) and proceeded to reformat and > >>> partition it so that I could have a DOS/Windows/OS2 (FAT) partition and a Linux > >>> partition. After formating the Drive, (using MS-DOS 6.22) I only saw 770 > >>> megs... > > Arturo, > > IBM's so-called "810mb" disk is, in fact, an 810-million-byte disk. > And 810,000,000 bytes = 772 mega-bytes. So maybe your re-partitioning > worked correctly after all, and there's no "lost" space on your disk. > > It really stinks, the way some small-minded smart-ass marketing types > at IBM and some other companies have decided to deceptively re-interpret > "mb" to mean "million-byte" rather than "mega-byte", and introduce all > this unnecessary confusion. > > Joseph > > Joseph Manning / Computer Science / Vassar College / manning@cs.vassar.edu > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 17:18:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22152; Wed, 27 Sep 95 17:18:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23928; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 17:09:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 17:09:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23908; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 17:09:03 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA9651; Wed, 27 Sep 95 17:02:34 -0700 Message-Id: <9509280002.AA9651@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 691CE8C56DCCE63F852562440073971F; Wed, 27 Sep 95 17:02:34 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 27 Sep 95 17:05:39 EDT Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....Note: I would guess the homologate thread competes pretty well for high-water mark silliness with the mega-shootout :-) :-)...." ~~~~~~~~~~ I'm just waiting for someone to ask Don W. who "Grod" is, so I can watch it really get silly! :-) Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 17:41:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24275; Wed, 27 Sep 95 17:41:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26512; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 17:33:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 17:33:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26502; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 17:33:09 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA22077; Wed, 27 Sep 95 17:33:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 17:33:23 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509272133.AA22077@nile.gnat.com> To: gen@nynexst.com, manning@cs.vassar.edu Subject: Re: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD Cc: art@aars.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Boy that sure was a confusing post from manning. The discussion of gigabits is of course a total red herring. So is the discussion of pre/post formatting. The issue is simple, is a megabyte 10**6 or 2**20. 810 * 10**6 = 772 * 2**20 so depending on your definition of megabyte, the same disk can be described as either 810 megs (the IBM description), or 772 megs (using the dfefinition of megabyte that is always used when talking about computer main memory, i.e. 2**20). On thing I will say in IBM's case is that every IBM ad I ever saw has a footnote explaining the usage. In most ads for disks, you simply cannot tell which definition of megabyte is being used. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 17:48:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24666; Wed, 27 Sep 95 17:48:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27132; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 17:39:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 17:39:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27120; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 17:39:38 -0400 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA28743; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 17:44:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 17:44:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Michael Verne/VENTANA Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 In-Reply-To: <9509280002.AA9651@lgate.vmedia.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Sep 1995, Michael Verne/VENTANA wrote: > I'm just waiting for someone to ask Don W. who "Grod" is, so I can watch it > really get silly! :-) Bwahahah! I consider that a question by default! Grod is _Gorilla Grod_, an old enemy of The Flash in the DC comic books. Grod had been inflated to super-intelligence and was always plotting to rule the world! Yet the Flash keep kicking his butt, go figure... But in a very funny comic book once, a cohort gorilla of Grod's broke out of a cage, put on a fedora and dark sunglasses and ran off yelling "I'm on a mission from Grod!" (a-la The Blues Brothers) and the image has stuck with me since.... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 18:26:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29225; Wed, 27 Sep 95 18:26:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01383; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:16:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:16:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mercury.Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01358; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:16:46 -0400 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM by mercury.Sun.COM (Sun.COM) id PAA15032; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:16:08 -0700 Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA18697; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:16:02 -0700 Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02536; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:16:00 -0700 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA22217; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:16:56 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:16:56 -0700 From: cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9509272216.AA22217@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: manning@cs.vassar.edu, gen@nynexst.com Subject: Re: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD Cc: art@aars.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII You know its one thing to read about how history of things gets twisted to sort of explain how things are or could be. Its another to experience it in real time :-) >I think there might be some (alot of!) confusion here with respect to the >disk size discussion... No kidding! >1) One million bytes is ALWAYS equal to 1 Megabyte... let's not > rewrite the math books to fit the problem! Uh-oh we've started out with something of a faux pas now. The crux of this silly discussion was the prefix 'Mega' which has, for several centuries meant units of 1,000,000. However, there are those pesky engineers who built a memory chip (the 2112 if memory serves) that could address 2^10 bits. Now 2^10 happens to be 1024 distinct bits, and those pesky engineers got _really_ tired of calling these thing 1024 bit memories (although they did for a long time.) and then some unspoken agreement was made to shorten multiples of 1024 to be "K" since that was easier to type and we all knew what we were talking about anyway. Of course, the engineers didn't make a global change, no they didn't start calling 1024 ohm resistors "1K resistors" or make 1/1024th of a volt a millivolt. No, they realized that they could use the term 'K' in context and keep it straight. This got to be a habit, and a bad one at that. Next came memories that could address 2^20 bits. Now technically this was 1024 * 1024 and really that was 1,048,576 bits but since we're calling 1024 a Kilobit, 1024 Kilobits could reasonably be called 1 Megabit right? Sure, as long as its just between us propellor heads and we never get them confused with the "real" definition of Mega which is 1,000,000. Now we start adding magnetic media, which have a storage capactity that is not dictated by the binary number system, but by the physical space on the magnetic media and the ability of the electronics to distinguish bits. So technically we (being the engineers) could drop this silly convention of 1K = 1024, 1M = 1024 * 1K, and 1G = 1024 * 1M. After all, the disk isn't memory, is it? Ah but there is the rub, in a way it is memory with a very slow access time. Also if you are already talking about memory using these altered units then if you discuss the disk in the same units you don't have to figure out if your program that takes 4K of core memory will fit in 4K bytes on the disk. And so the habit was continued and it really was just a convention, a bogus one, but convienient. But the engineers ran up against a problem, and that was "Marketing". And worse we exceeded that magic size of "twenty" megabytes. You see engineers had no reason to change what was going on because after all we all _knew_ that 20M was 20 * 1024 * 1024 or 20,971,520 bytes and of course if your truncate to the nearest million 20M is 20M right? but a 21 megabyte drive (anyone remember the Seagate 225?) was 22,020,096 bytes. Hmm, so those pesky marketeers over in Microscience or whereever it was they were trying to unseat the Shugart/Segate monopoly on hard disks, got the bright idea that they could advertise these things as 22M drives (* M = 1,000,000). Now would you rather have a 21M or a 22M drive? Obviously the 22M one is bigger right? wrong. They are exactly the same size, and this strategy fell flat on its face and these marketeers got roasted soundly by the engineering community. Anyway, the idea comes and goes (much to the annoyance of folks who don't care which way it goes as long as everyone uses the same notation.) and didn't really take hold until people like my Mom started walking into computer stores to buy a computer. She _doesn't_ know that the 22M drive is the same size as the 21M drive and so she goes for the "bigger" drive at the same price. Bam! Hooked one. Now the practice has become common place. >2) If the drive were actually 810 Megabytes large instead of 810 Megabits > then that would be equal to 8 * 810 * 10**6 = 6480 * 10**6 = 6480 Megabits > (which btw = 6.48 Gigabits) If it's 810 Megabits, then that's equal to > (810/8) * 10**6 = 101.25 Megabytes. Either way, it doesn't add up to 770 > or 772... The drive is in fact has the ability to store 810,549,248 bytes of data. That can be computed by multiplying their cylinders * tracks * sectors * bytesPerSector. The engineers divide that by 1024 * 1024 and get 773 Megabytes. The marketeers divide it by 1,000,000 and get 810 Megabytes. Either way its a lot but using the marketing way you get 37 million bytes for "free". > Just to clarify further, disc sizes are usually give in Megabytes. > The abbreviations are supposed to be: MB = Megabytes and Mb = Megabits > but these are often confused. Actually to be perfectly clear, the unit Megabits is typically used in semiconductor memories (makes them sound larger) and communication channels. Disks are always rated in bytes (kilo or mega). Typically disks with kilo byte ratings are using the notion that 1 kilo = 1024 bytes. As an interesting aside, the "1.44M" floppy disk gets its unit by its ability to hold 80 tracks of 18 sectors, each containing 1024 bytes. Multiplied out that is 1,474,560 bytes (or 1.475 Mb in marketing speak) but divided by 1024 you get 1440 Kbytes or 1.44 Mbytes. In this case the M stands for 1000 * 1024 bytes! Pretty wild yes? >3) Although physical memory and disk sizes are actually configured in binary > increments, i.e. 2**10 = 1024, they are commonly rounded off to the nearest > decimal multiple of K or M bits or bytes. But this is only a ROUNDOFF > issue, and generally the roundoff is in the downward direction, i.e. > 10 Megs is really 1,024,000, 16 K is really 16,384 etc.. Not exactly. Four megabytes of memory is addressable with 22 binary bits. Unlike disks if you swap the units around on memory you don't sell any. 22 bits = 4,194,304 bytes. >4) So where did all that disk space (810 - 770) actually go? The key phrase >here was: >"After formatting the drive..." >Yep, that's the byte eater... the formatting process automatically reserves >alot of space for administering the file system, for spare tracks, etc. >typicallly 10% or more of your brand new disk! Bummer... And this one really stunned me. The drive capacity is 810,549,248 bytes FORMATTED. This is mythos is left over from another marketing trick which was to give the raw capacity of the drive. This was calculated using the number of tracks per inch the stepper could resolve and the linear bit density the read/write heads could distinguish. But the bits on the disk included synch bits, gaps between sectors to allow the electronics to recover, etc. And it was during that period where raw capacity was the number quoted and formatted capacity was in the footnote. For what its worth the raw capacity of those "1.44M" 3.5" disks is 2 megabytes but you can't get two megabytes without changing their format. These days in the world of SCSI and IDE hard disks the computer has no idea how to format the drive, it just knows how many "blocks" it can store on the drive and how big a block is. Thus for all intents and purposes the unformatted capacity is irrelevant and no longer used in the literature. --Chuck McManis From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 18:49:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00254; Wed, 27 Sep 95 18:49:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03361; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:42:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:42:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03351; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:42:18 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA24892; Wed, 27 Sep 95 18:42:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 18:42:25 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509272242.AA24892@nile.gnat.com> To: cmcmanis@scndprsn.eng.sun.com, gen@nynexst.com, manning@cs.vassar.edu Subject: Re: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD Cc: art@aars.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Chuck notes: "Actually to be perfectly clear, the unit Megabits is typically used in semiconductor memories (makes them sound larger) and communication channels. Disks are always rated in bytes (kilo or mega). Typically disks with kilo byte ratings are using the notion that 1 kilo = 1024 bytes." The other place that Mebabits is commonly used is in the videogame business, where capacity is always thus stated. Marketing at work again, a 16 meg game sounds much more impressive than a 2 meg game. Now I suppose when we get to 32 meg games, some bright marketing guy at the video game company will figure out that he can advertise a 33 meg game instead. Well look at the bright side, at least he folks from Kingston are not trying to sell us 33 meg DRAM cards :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 18:53:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00297; Wed, 27 Sep 95 18:53:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03645; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:48:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:48:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nynexst.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03635; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:48:16 -0400 Received: from insight.nynexst.com by nynexst.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.nynexst) id AA06417; Wed, 27 Sep 95 18:47:44 EDT Received: from localhost by insight.nynexst.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21831; Wed, 27 Sep 95 18:49:55 EDT Message-Id: <9509272249.AA21831@insight.nynexst.com> To: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 27 Sep 1995 17:33:23 EDT." <9509272133.AA22077@nile.gnat.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5omega 10/6/94 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:49:54 -0400 From: Gen Cerf I agree that your latest math looks convincing... > 810 * 10**6 = 772 * 2**20 > which means that IBM is being honest, but the program reporting on the 772 (cmos?) is counting in units of 2**20! ...but I'm still curious about the formatting issue... I have just checked a huge UNIX file server which we have here, which has disks of every size from 200 Meg to 2 Gigabytes. All of them show ~ 10% less space available for use than their nominal size. DOS may not use quite as much as Unix but still... ! According to Michael Verne's email, if chkdsk shows you 540 MB, and fdisk shows you 527 MB, the difference (13 MB) must be what's used for formatting. Meanwhile, cmos is counting in units of 2**20, because, as in your calculation for the 810 MB drive, 540 * 10**6 = 514 * 2**20 I promise this is my last post on this, but I'd like to know if you agree! Gen ----------------------------------------------------- Genevieve Cerf, Ph.D. E.E. Speech Recognition & Language Understanding Services NYNEX Science & Technology 500 Westchester Avenue White Plains, NY 10604 (914) 644-2407 FAX: (914) 644-2211 gen@nynexst.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 18:55:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00330; Wed, 27 Sep 95 18:55:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03687; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:49:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:49:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03675; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:49:13 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA24928; Wed, 27 Sep 95 18:49:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 18:49:34 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509272249.AA24928@nile.gnat.com> To: gen@nynexst.com Subject: Re: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU no one quotes unformatted sizes for hard disks any more. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 19:16:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09016; Wed, 27 Sep 95 19:16:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04631; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 19:09:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 19:09:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mercury.Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04617; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 19:09:06 -0400 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM by mercury.Sun.COM (Sun.COM) id QAA26926; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:08:31 -0700 Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA28673; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:08:26 -0700 Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02827; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:08:24 -0700 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA22348; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:09:21 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 16:09:21 -0700 From: cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9509272309.AA22348@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: gen@nynexst.com Subject: Re: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII >...but I'm still curious about the formatting issue... > >I have just checked a huge UNIX file server which we have >here, which has disks of every size from 200 Meg to 2 Gigabytes. >All of them show ~ 10% less space available for use than >their nominal size. DOS may not use quite as much as Unix >but still... ! My last post too, the answer to your question is that there is disk formatting, and their is file system formatting and they are different beasts. Disk Formatting is the process whereby raw bits are written to the disk to identify where the sectors are and where the bad bits are. In DOS land this is called a "low level" format. File System Formatting is the process whereby the available bytes of storage are preallocated to "meta data" such as directories, file pointers, etc, and just "data" which is contained in the files. Inefficient file systems are the bane of DOS and its worst feature. Basically on every DOS version up to the Windows '95 release the file system wanted to break the file system up into chunks that it could manage with a simple algorithm. Because of this, if you have a 540MB disk, and you partition it as one big disk under DOS, the minimum file size is 16KB because that is the smallest allocation block that you can use and have the whole disk representable as a signed 16 bit offset. File system efficiency is the ratio of actual data bytes stored over the used disk allocation space. On DOS that can be 60%. On UNIX with FFS that can be 72 - 88%, on AmigaDOS it could reach a pretty impressive 95%. --Chuck P.S. Also UNIX "saves" that last 10% for emergencies. If you're root you can fill your disks up to being 110% full. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 19:36:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10223; Wed, 27 Sep 95 19:36:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05602; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 19:28:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 19:28:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from maple.grove.iup.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05592; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 19:28:02 -0400 Received: from grove.iup.edu by grove.iup.edu (PMDF V4.3-13 #2467) id <01HVS5H1QDB48Y50BQ@grove.iup.edu>; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 19:27:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 19:26:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark_Strawcutter Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 In-Reply-To: Your message dated "Wed, 27 Sep 1995 13:52:55 -0400" <9509271251.AA12724@cyclone.mitre.org> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HVS5WRCIJM8Y50BQ@grove.iup.edu> Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania X-Envelope-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >Mike Anderson, ThinkPad Forum Sysop >IBM PC Co Mobile Products Tech Support >7:33 PM, Tuesday, September 26, 1995 I wonder when IBM PC Co Mobile Products Tech Support will have an active presence on the Internet? ---------- Mark J Strawcutter Internet: mjstraw@grove.iup.edu Director, Systems and Communications BITNET: MJSTRAW@IUP Indiana University of Pennsylvania Voice: (412) 357-4007 Indiana, PA 15705 "you can't nail jello to a tree" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 22:20:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22850; Wed, 27 Sep 95 22:20:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19137; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 22:10:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 22:10:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sentinel.synapse.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19078; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 22:10:12 -0400 Received: from tubular-06.synapse.net (tubular-06.synapse.net [199.84.52.200]) by sentinel.synapse.net (8.7/8.7) with SMTP id WAA11181 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 22:09:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 22:09:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199509280209.WAA11181@sentinel.synapse.net> X-Sender: phong@pop.synapse.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: phong@phsmc.synapse.net (Patrick Hong) Subject: MWave 2.0 (connection problems) First off, I wish to say that I can't believe people going on about a word for so many threads. Do we all have better things to do than to critique each other to death? Personnaly, I don't appreciate downloading all the email and finding it quite useless. My problem as my subject title indicates, deals with IBM's new MWave 2.0 software. I upgraded primarily to connect to my Internet provider at 28.8kbps but I get a truly bizarre noise when it is negotiating. This message is proof that I can connect at 28.8kbps but the bad news is that it is the 2nd time in probably 200 tries. The noise definitely does not sound like any modem negotiation process that I've ever heard before. In fact it almost sounds like a harpsicord or electronic keyboard. In fact, there is a pattern that is something like this. 1. typical modem negotiation, then 2. 2 or 3 of those harpsicord notes. Has anyone else experienced this? I would like the connection process to be more reliable since Netscape now flies! :) Any advice would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks in advance... patrick ______________________________________________________________________ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@phsmc.synapse.net (613) 769-1544 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 22:43:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24289; Wed, 27 Sep 95 22:43:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21259; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 22:33:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 22:33:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21248; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 22:33:21 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA26299; Wed, 27 Sep 95 22:33:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 22:33:37 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509280233.AA26299@nile.gnat.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, phong@phsmc.synapse.net Subject: Re: MWave 2.0 (connection problems) that (harpischord type sound) sounds like perfectly normal 28.8 negotiation, but such negotations often fail on bad lines! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 23:29:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27073; Wed, 27 Sep 95 23:29:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26007; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 23:18:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 23:18:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25997; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 23:18:55 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0sy9Up-00010BC; Wed, 27 Sep 95 20:18 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Re: MWave 2.0 (connection problems) To: phong@phsmc.synapse.net (Patrick Hong) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 20:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199509280209.WAA11181@sentinel.synapse.net> from "Patrick Hong" at Sep 27, 95 10:09:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > The noise definitely does not sound like any modem negotiation process that > I've ever heard before. In fact it almost sounds like a harpsicord or That's pretty normal for V.34 connections... As a matter of fact the Mwave connection sound at V.34 is a lot tamer than my US-Robotics V.34 modem. 28.8Kbps connection requires VERY good telephone line quality... House wiring and your distance from the Central Office could have a lot to with it to. I have been able to get many 26.4K connects with the new software... I'm happy! Here's what the README file in the MWAVE program group suggests: If you experience difficulties connecting at a modem speed of 28.8 kbps to a particular number, or if you have trouble connecting to a particular modem rotary, try the following. - If the connection is not made and the speaker is OFF: 1. Disable V.42 bis and MNP 5 using AT"H%C 2. Disable V.42 (AT\N3) or MNP 1-4 (AT\N5). You could also disable both with AT\N. - If the connection is not made and the speaker remains on: 1. Reduce the maximum modem throughput using the AT commands ATs28=18 (for 26400 bps), ATS28=17 (24000bps), ATS28=16 (21600 bps), or ATS28=15 (19200 bps). 2. If you've tried step 1 and it still does not connect, use AT*TH8 to control the speed. Once you connect using the AT*TH8 command, remember to reset your modem using either AT&F (for factory defaults) or AT*TH4. If you forget to reset, your next calls will transmit at lower V.34 connection rates. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Sep 27 23:38:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27396; Wed, 27 Sep 95 23:38:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27260; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 23:30:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 23:30:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom20.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27249; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 23:30:53 -0400 Received: by netcom20.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id UAA16321; Wed, 27 Sep 1995 20:18:03 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 20:18:03 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199509280318.UAA16321@netcom20.netcom.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, phong@phsmc.synapse.net Subject: Re: MWave 2.0 (connection problems) The weird sound you hear is normal v.34 negotiation. Yes, it does sound bizarre the first time you hear it. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 04:18:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23498; Thu, 28 Sep 95 04:18:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16744; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 03:59:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 03:59:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mwunix.mitre.org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16734; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 03:59:29 -0400 Received: from cyclone.mitre.org (cyclone.mitre.org [128.29.86.13]) by mwunix.mitre.org (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id DAA09166 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 03:59:26 -0400 Received: from by cyclone.mitre.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AB21088; Thu, 28 Sep 95 03:59:24 EDT Message-Id: <9509280759.AB21088@cyclone.mitre.org> X-Sender: dhite@cyclone X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 09:01:13 -0400 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: David Hite Subject: Mwave info from Compuserve Here's the latest from the compuserve thinkpad forum sysop: ==================================================================== Right now the only countrys that MWave 2.0 is homologated in are the US, Canada and Japan... so outside of those countrys it is currently illegal to connect the MWave modem to the local phone system. I suspect (note SUSPECT) that the same X3 will apply with a US based modem in other countrys as it did in MWave 1.10, but for non-US setups (external DAA) then there will be new modem personalization code released as soon as the MWave 2.0 modem is homologated in that country (hopefully we'll be able to make the code downloadable here). In the meantime, I modified the MWAVE200.DOC file to indicate the problem and I also posted a news flash that everyone entering the forum after last night should have seen - I hope this stops others from killing their modems too... I have also re-uploaded the MWave 1.10 code so those that did kill their modem/telephony can get it back... Sure would have been easier if I'd known about this glitch up front... Mike Anderson, ThinkPad Forum Sysop IBM PC Co Mobile Products Tech Support 7:37 PM, Wednesday, September 27, 1995 ===================================================================== What he means by "the same X3" is that if you put "X3" into your dialing string, then the modem does not wait for dial tone before starting to dial the number. Apparently this is the main problem with using US versions of the modem in other countries -- the modem never detects dial tone, so it never dials the number. I had the problem the first time I tried to use my mwave 1.10 modem in Brussels, and X3 fixed it for me. >From what I read in the forum (literally hundreds of messages, most of them angry), people who do not have the US version of the ThinkPad may have to wait for the "homologation" to happen, but others report that they can get their's to work OK. I guess it depends on the country and the particular ThinkPad you happen to have. David P.S. If you reply to this message, I'd be grateful if you'd reply only to the list, not to me directly. I don't really need 2 copies of each message :) Thanks... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 08:30:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27209; Thu, 28 Sep 95 08:30:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10879; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 08:17:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 08:17:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns.ge.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10859; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 08:17:16 -0400 Received: from thomas.ge.com ([3.47.28.21]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA20048 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 08:17:02 -0400 Received: from stes02.sch.ge.com (stes02.sch.ge.com [3.72.108.134]) by thomas.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA11174 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 08:11:18 -0400 Received: from SMTPGW.SCH.GE.COM (smtpgw.sch.ge.com [3.10.206.1]) by stes02.sch.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA10841 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 08:17:00 -0400 Received: by SMTPGW.SCH.GE.COM with Microsoft Mail id <306A92B5@SMTPGW.SCH.GE.COM>; Thu, 28 Sep 95 08:19:01 edt From: "Pallante, Joseph" To: tp750 Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 07:56:00 edt Message-Id: <306A92B5@SMTPGW.SCH.GE.COM> Encoding: 20 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 ---------- From: Mark_Strawcutter To: tp750 Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 Date: Wednesday, September 27, 1995 7:26PM >>Mike Anderson, ThinkPad Forum Sysop >>IBM PC Co Mobile Products Tech Support >>7:33 PM, Tuesday, September 26, 1995 >I wonder when IBM PC Co Mobile Products Tech Support will have an active >presence on the Internet? I would consider us lucky if IBM is gracious enough to make the MWave 2.0 files available somehwere besides Compuserve! Joe From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 08:52:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27764; Thu, 28 Sep 95 08:52:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12939; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 08:42:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 08:42:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12921; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 08:42:33 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA11728; Thu, 28 Sep 95 08:42:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 08:42:43 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509281242.AA11728@nile.gnat.com> To: pallanjo@ctls.sch.ge.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 "I would consider us lucky if IBM is gracious enough to make the MWave 2.0 files available somehwere besides Compuserve!" aren't they available on the bulletin board, that's where I always get stuff from ... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 09:28:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00172; Thu, 28 Sep 95 09:28:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17195; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 09:20:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 09:20:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17179; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 09:20:46 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA5040; Thu, 28 Sep 95 09:14:16 -0700 Message-Id: <9509281614.AA5040@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 4F3C74094DE7C5E58525624500484982; Thu, 28 Sep 95 09:14:16 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 28 Sep 95 9:17:59 EDT Subject: Re: Partition Problems w/ 810mb HD X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "......but I'm still curious about the formatting issue... According to Michael Verne's email, if chkdsk shows you 540 MB, and fdisk shows you 527 MB, the difference (13 MB) must be what's used for formatting. Meanwhile, cmos is counting in units of 2**20, because, as in your calculation for the 810 MB drive, 540 * 10**6 = 514 * 2**20...." ~~~~~ not to kick a dead horse, but formatting has nothing to do with it. the cmos shows you a figure equal to disk capacity in million bytes divided by 1024^2. fdisk shows you a figure equal to thousand bytes divided by 1024 and chkdsk just shows you bytes. and just for the record, your cmos is not reporting anything from the disk itself. it's just doing math on the numbers that you (or the autodetect feature) plug into the cyl/hd/spt fields. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 09:29:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00181; Thu, 28 Sep 95 09:29:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17341; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 09:24:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 09:23:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17331; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 09:23:57 -0400 Received: by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.6.11/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA09503; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 09:23:47 -0400 Received: by n2ell (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0syIsA-0003AOC; Thu, 28 Sep 95 09:19 EDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 09:19 EDT From: pcolsen@n2ell.columbia.md.us (Peter C. Olsen P.E.) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Installing Linux on a TP-750Cs --- BIOS32 Extensions? Reply-To: pcolsen@acm.org I need help installing Linux on a TP750Cs. I've been lent a TP750Cs on which I want to run Linux to support my PhD research. I've been trying to install Slakware 2.3 with kernel 1.2.8, but when I try to boot, I get a message saying "No BIOS32 Extensions found. This release still depend on them. Sorry." and thing just fizzle out soon afterward. Can someone tell me what this means and if there is a way to get around it? Thanks! Peter -- Peter Olsen, P.E., pcolsen@acm.org P.O. Box 410, Simpsonville, MD 21150-0410 USA, 410-997-8584 "Engineering is the art of applying a professional knowledge of mathematics and the physical sciences to improve the quality of life." From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 11:26:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17671; Thu, 28 Sep 95 11:26:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28568; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 11:14:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 11:14:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28556; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 11:14:33 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0syKg5-0004tlC; Thu, 28 Sep 95 10:15 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0syKg4-0002ncC; Thu, 28 Sep 95 10:15 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0syKg2-0002wvC; Thu, 28 Sep 95 10:15 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: This list To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 10:15:09 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Due to a problem with PSI, our Internet provider, we were off the net for about 8 hours yesterday. The scripts that manage this mailing list choose to drop me due to bounces. What about making the timeout a little longer? -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 11:37:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19170; Thu, 28 Sep 95 11:37:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00638; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 11:31:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 11:31:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00545; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 11:31:00 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 11:29 EDT From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: pcolsen@acm.org Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Thu, 28 Sep 95 09:19 EDT from pcolsen@n2ell.columbia.md.us (Peter C. Olsen P.E.) Subject: Installing Linux on a TP-750Cs --- BIOS32 Extensions? Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 09:19 EDT From: pcolsen@n2ell.columbia.md.us (Peter C. Olsen P.E.) I've been lent a TP750Cs on which I want to run Linux to support my PhD research. I've been trying to install Slakware 2.3 with kernel 1.2.8, but when I try to boot, I get a message saying "No BIOS32 Extensions found. This release still depend on them. Sorry." and thing just fizzle out soon afterward. Can someone tell me what this means and if there is a way to get around it? I don't think this is important -- I booted from a Slackware 2.2 disk recently, and it came up fine despite showing this error message. Did you use the "floppy=thinkpad" boot parameter? This is essential. Also, could you be more specific about what you mean by "fizzle out"? It's possible, depending on the size of your disk, that you may need to use the "hd=..." boot parameter, but this problem wouldn't show up until after the boot process was finished. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 11:44:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19627; Thu, 28 Sep 95 11:44:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00961; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 11:35:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 11:35:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00943; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 11:35:14 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA6162; Thu, 28 Sep 95 11:28:44 -0700 Message-Id: <9509281828.AA6162@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 709F1D9A2700B7B885256245005486F5; Thu, 28 Sep 95 11:28:43 To: tp750 From: Gary Moore/VENTANA Date: 28 Sep 95 11:25:52 EDT Subject: losing sound on my thinkpad Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain I have a TP 755CD. Recently I've begun having trouble with the sound. Everything works fine for the first 3-4 minutes...then the speakers simply stop working. All goes quiet. External speakers via the headphone jack continue to work. The only way to get the speakers to resume making sounds is to turn the machine off and back on....rebooting won't work. Any suggestions, similar problems??? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 12:24:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27806; Thu, 28 Sep 95 12:24:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05000; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:12:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:12:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04980; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:12:04 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA6527; Thu, 28 Sep 95 12:05:32 -0700 Message-Id: <9509281905.AA6527@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id FAFDA8E2F3AD9A05852562450058A65A; Thu, 28 Sep 95 12:05:32 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 28 Sep 95 12:08:45 EDT Subject: mwave 2.0 X-Lotus-Type: Memo w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain i'm not a big fan of compuserve, but i guess i don't have much choice right now. so, can someone tell me where, exactly, to go? <> i mean on compuserve. to get the mwave 2.0 software. thanks in advance. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 13:07:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09680; Thu, 28 Sep 95 13:07:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08011; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:48:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:48:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from happy.qualcomm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08000; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:48:20 -0400 Received: from gjacobs (gjacobs.qualcomm.com [129.46.122.39]) by happy.qualcomm.com (8.6.12/QC-BSD-2.5.1) with SMTP id JAA00728; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 09:47:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199509281647.JAA00728@happy.qualcomm.com> X-Sender: gjacobs@wizard X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 09:47:06 -0700 To: Chris Hanson , dewar@nile.gnat.com From: "Gary E. Jacobs" Subject: Re: ram increase Cc: josephw@inc.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU At 01:23 PM 9/27/95 -0400, Chris Hanson wrote: > Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:21:40 -0400 > From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) > > can you give the souce for the $1124 for th Kingston 32 meg card, was this > new? it seems definitely below market prices. > >This is a new part from Impediment Inc.; call 617-834-3800 or see >their web page at http://www.impediment.com/. > I called today and they would not quote me this price. They said it was $100 less than Kingston sells it to them. Alex quoted $1345.00. Gary Jacobs gjacobs@qualcomm.com (619)658-4069 voice (619)658-2120 fax From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 13:14:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10348; Thu, 28 Sep 95 13:14:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08580; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:56:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:56:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08568; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:56:08 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 12:55 EDT From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: gjacobs@qualcomm.com Cc: dewar@nile.gnat.com, josephw@inc.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Thu, 28 Sep 1995 09:47:06 -0700 from "Gary E. Jacobs" Subject: ram increase Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 09:47:06 -0700 From: "Gary E. Jacobs" At 01:23 PM 9/27/95 -0400, Chris Hanson wrote: > Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 13:21:40 -0400 > From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) > > can you give the souce for the $1124 for th Kingston 32 meg card, was this > new? it seems definitely below market prices. > >This is a new part from Impediment Inc.; call 617-834-3800 or see >their web page at http://www.impediment.com/. > I called today and they would not quote me this price. They said it was $100 less than Kingston sells it to them. Alex quoted $1345.00. Gee... that's definitely the price that I heard (I've submitted a purchase requisition to order one). I don't know what's going on. I've sent email to Alex to see what's up. I'll forward the answer. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 13:40:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17666; Thu, 28 Sep 95 13:40:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10930; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 13:30:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 13:30:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from halon.sybase.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10910; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 13:30:30 -0400 Received: from sybase.com (sybgate.sybase.com) by halon.sybase.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4/SybFW4.0) id AA02072; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 10:29:18 -0700 Received: from shelty.sybase.com by sybase.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/SybH3.4) id AA14801; Thu, 28 Sep 95 10:31:35 PDT Message-Id: <9509281731.AA14801@sybase.com> Received: from shelties.sybase.com ([157.133.211.4]) by shelty.sybase.com with SMTP; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 11:32:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Sender: jmelton@shelty X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 11:27:31 -0600 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Jim Melton Subject: ThinkPad 750 mail list? Gentlepeople, I was given this email address as a place where I could request to be put on a mailing list dealing with IBM ThinkPad 750 (and apparently 760) laptops. I would like to be added to that list, if possible, but would also like to know how to be removed from the list if I find that I cannot contribute anything useful and do not benefit sufficiently from it. Many thanks, Jim _____________________________________________________________________________ Jim Melton Phone: +1.801.942.0144 Sybase, Inc. Email: jim.melton@sybase.com 1930 Viscounti Drive X/Open email: j.melton@xopen.co.uk Sandy, UT 84093 Fax (by prior arrangement only): +1.801.942.3345 USA From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 13:40:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17672; Thu, 28 Sep 95 13:40:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11073; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 13:32:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 13:32:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11060; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 13:32:50 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0syMp0-00015VC; Thu, 28 Sep 95 10:32 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Re: mwave 2.0 To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com (Michael Verne/VENTANA) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 10:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9509281905.AA6527@lgate.vmedia.com> from "Michael Verne/VENTANA" at Sep 28, 95 12:08:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > i'm not a big fan of compuserve, but i guess i don't have much choice right > now. so, can someone tell me where, exactly, to go? <> i mean on > compuserve. to get the mwave 2.0 software. The compuserve command is "GO THINKPAD". You'll find the MWave 2.0 stuff in library 2. While you're there, you might want to grab the new FaxWorks Voice v3.00g.058, and the new Follow Fax software they just posted in library 3. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 13:46:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18173; Thu, 28 Sep 95 13:46:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11436; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 13:38:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 13:38:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sentinel.synapse.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11403; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 13:38:08 -0400 Received: from violin-25.synapse.net (violin-25.synapse.net [199.84.52.213]) by sentinel.synapse.net (8.7/8.7) with SMTP id NAA26993 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 13:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 13:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199509281738.NAA26993@sentinel.synapse.net> X-Sender: phong@pop.synapse.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: phong@phsmc.synapse.net (Patrick Hong) Subject: Re: mwave 2.0 >i'm not a big fan of compuserve, but i guess i don't have much choice right >now. so, can someone tell me where, exactly, to go? <> i mean on >compuserve. to get the mwave 2.0 software. > Michael, Go to CIS:IBM -> Thinkpad Area and you should easily find it in the library files. ... patrick ______________________________________________________________________ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@phsmc.synapse.net (613) 769-1544 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 14:08:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26049; Thu, 28 Sep 95 14:08:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12715; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 13:58:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 13:58:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12703; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 13:58:48 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0syMzC-00015VC; Thu, 28 Sep 95 10:43 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 10:43:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9509281242.AA11728@nile.gnat.com> from "Robert Dewar" at Sep 28, 95 08:42:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > "I would consider us lucky if IBM is gracious enough to make the MWave 2.0 > files available somehwere besides Compuserve!" > > aren't they available on the bulletin board, that's where I always get > stuff from ... Unfortunately not this time... As of late last night, the files were not available on the BBS. This morning, they are still not available on the ftp site. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 14:56:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00601; Thu, 28 Sep 95 14:56:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17296; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 14:47:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 14:47:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17280; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 14:47:16 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA11594; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 14:45:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 14:45:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 28 Sep 1995, Mehdi Attaran wrote: > > "I would consider us lucky if IBM is gracious enough to make the MWave 2.0 > > files available somehwere besides Compuserve!" > > Unfortunately not this time... As of late last night, the files were not > available on the BBS. This morning, they are still not available on the ftp > site. For what it's worth, the files show up at http://www.pc.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ftpfiles?action=list&dir=34 but anonymous ftp from there doesn't seem to work. The MWave 1.0 files have the same problem so perhaps the 2.0 files are really there and this is just a temporary glitch. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 15:03:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06329; Thu, 28 Sep 95 15:03:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18260; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 14:55:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 14:55:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18240; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 14:55:27 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.32] (mac32.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA21161; Thu, 28 Sep 95 14:55:21 EDT Message-Id: <9509281855.AA21161@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 15:09:26 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: mwave 2.0 and compuserve >> i'm not a big fan of compuserve, but i guess i don't have much choice right >> now. so, can someone tell me where, exactly, to go? <> i mean on >> compuserve. to get the mwave 2.0 software. > >The compuserve command is "GO THINKPAD". You'll find the MWave 2.0 stuff in >library 2. While you're there, you might want to grab the new FaxWorks Voice >v3.00g.058, and the new Follow Fax software they just posted in library 3. > Requiring IBM owners to join a particularly disgusting service provider in order to get the latest software fixes is kind of like requiring new car owners to join a condo time share on Long Island in order to get their car serviced. This is absurd. I was equally annoyed to hear that one has to join compuserve in order to get zip drive software. I'm glad I found this out *before* I purchased a zip drive. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 15:14:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10077; Thu, 28 Sep 95 15:14:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19755; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 15:06:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 15:06:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19739; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 15:06:13 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06342; Thu, 28 Sep 95 15:05:16 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0087; Thu, 28 Sep 95 15:04:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 15:04:39 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9509281904.AA0087@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Cc: gjacobs@qualcomm.com, dewar@nile.gnat.com, josephw@inc.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Thu, 28 Sep 95 12:55 EDT from cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) Subject: ram increase Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 12:55 EDT From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 09:47:06 -0700 From: "Gary E. Jacobs" I called today and they would not quote me this price. They said it was $100 less than Kingston sells it to them. Alex quoted $1345.00. Gee... that's definitely the price that I heard (I've submitted a purchase requisition to order one). I don't know what's going on. I've sent email to Alex to see what's up. I'll forward the answer. Here it is, sorry for the confusion. What a pain; now I'll have to change the PO after the fact. From: Kathleen Leu To: CPH@martigny.ai.mit.edu Subject: IBM THINKPAD MEMORY Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 14:56:06 -0400 (EDT) CHRIS THE MEMORY THAT WAS QUOTED TO YOU WAS 32MB FOR THE THINKPAD 370 SERIES NOT THE 750 SERIES. YOUR PRICE ON THE 750 SRERIES 32MB IS $1,338.00 KATHY From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 17:22:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26036; Thu, 28 Sep 95 17:22:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03355; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 16:53:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 16:52:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns.ge.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03333; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 16:52:51 -0400 Received: from thomas.ge.com ([3.47.28.21]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id QAA28122 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 16:52:42 -0400 Received: from stes02.sch.ge.com (stes02.sch.ge.com [3.72.108.134]) by thomas.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA02392 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 16:46:34 -0400 Received: from SMTPGW.SCH.GE.COM (smtpgw.sch.ge.com [3.10.206.1]) by stes02.sch.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA27011 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 16:52:38 -0400 Received: by SMTPGW.SCH.GE.COM with Microsoft Mail id <306B0B8E@SMTPGW.SCH.GE.COM>; Thu, 28 Sep 95 16:54:38 edt From: "Pallante, Joseph" To: tp750 Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 16:28:00 edt Message-Id: <306B0B8E@SMTPGW.SCH.GE.COM> Encoding: 29 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I ended up finding them on ftp.pcco.ibm.com in pub/mobiles I'm not having tons of luck with v.34 though. I did get one 24000 connection, but I would drop characters occasionally and I would randomly get garbage characters while waiting at a unix prompt. Joe ---------- From: mehdi To: tp750 Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 Date: Thursday, September 28, 1995 10:43AM > "I would consider us lucky if IBM is gracious enough to make the MWave 2.0 > files available somehwere besides Compuserve!" > > aren't they available on the bulletin board, that's where I always get > stuff from ... Unfortunately not this time... As of late last night, the files were not available on the BBS. This morning, they are still not available on the ftp site. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 17:27:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28350; Thu, 28 Sep 95 17:27:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05959; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 17:16:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 17:16:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05940; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 17:16:36 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA20049; Thu, 28 Sep 95 17:15:40 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 17:15:40 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509282115.AA20049@nile.gnat.com> To: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu, gjacobs@qualcomm.com Subject: Re: ram increase Cc: josephw@inc.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU $1345 sounds much more believable, I thought that the $1124 was under market. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 17:59:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00373; Thu, 28 Sep 95 17:59:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09254; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 17:47:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 17:47:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09242; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 17:47:22 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA20517; Thu, 28 Sep 95 17:47:23 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 17:47:23 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509282147.AA20517@nile.gnat.com> To: pallanjo@ctls.sch.ge.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Problems with Mwave 2.0 I find 28.8 impossible in many places, and do better with a 14.4 modem connection. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 21:17:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28281; Thu, 28 Sep 95 21:17:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25689; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 21:08:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 21:08:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25679; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 21:08:18 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144001>; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 21:08:08 -0400 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: MWAVE 2.0: to install or not to install Message-Id: <95Sep28.210808edt.144001@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 21:08:01 -0400 Have our European friends had any luck using MWAVE 2.0, or have you all switched back to 1.10? I'm wondering because I have a few trips scheduled to Europe in the next few months and have use for telephony. Failing this, is there an easy way to keep parallel MWAVE directories and just rename things accordingly? I actually haven't heard too many positive things yet about 2.0 in this list. Are there any happy campers out there using MWAVE 2.0? Regards, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Sep 28 22:53:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06304; Thu, 28 Sep 95 22:53:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04669; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 22:47:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 22:47:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from satisfied.elf.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04652; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 22:47:04 -0400 Received: from lang.znet.com (lang.znet.com [204.157.172.142]) by satisfied.elf.com (8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA23428 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 22:46:53 -0400 Message-Id: <199509290246.WAA23428@satisfied.elf.com> From: lang@apocalypse.org (Lang Zerner) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: MWAVE 2.0: to install or not to install Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 04:48:27 GMT Reply-To: lang@apocalypse.org References: <95Sep28.210808edt.144001@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99b.112 On Thu, 28 Sep 1995 21:08:01 -0400, Eugene Fiume wrote: >I actually haven't heard too many positive things yet about 2.0 in this >list. Are there any happy campers out there using MWAVE 2.0? I had trouble with it at full speed, but everything seems fine since I set my dialer to initialize with S28=19 (limits to 26400bps, still a significant speed boost). Be seeing you... --Lang From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 29 01:54:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15022; Fri, 29 Sep 95 01:54:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09785; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 23:44:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 23:44:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09770; Thu, 28 Sep 1995 23:44:21 -0400 Received: from inc.net by inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14042; Thu, 28 Sep 95 22:44:11 CDT Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 22:44:09 CDT Message-Id: <9509290344.AA14042@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: josephw@inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Subject: Where to get MWave 2.0 MWave 2.0 updates are available from the IBM FTP site. You can FTP (ftp.pcco.ibm.com, go to pub/mobiles) directly or access it via the IBM PC home page (www.pc.ibm.com). They are also available on the IBM BBS (sorry, don't have the number off the top of my head). I have been running MW 2.0 for about three weeks in OS/2 Warp 3.0, DOS, and Windows w/o problem. Just wish I could get better phone lines to fully enjoy the 28.8 speed. Joe Wilson From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 29 04:38:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23615; Fri, 29 Sep 95 04:38:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02104; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 04:25:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 04:25:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02084; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 04:25:34 -0400 Received: from haralds.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/Task/HJ-5) id AA058333108; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 09:25:09 +0100 Received: by haralds.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/HJ/Task-5) id AA059773108; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 09:25:08 +0100 From: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) Message-Id: <199509290825.AA059773108@haralds.cs.uit.no> Subject: Re: MWAVE 2.0: to install or not to install To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 09:25:07 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <95Sep28.210808edt.144001@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> from "Eugene Fiume" at Sep 28, 95 09:08:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Have our European friends had any luck using MWAVE 2.0, or have you all > switched back to 1.10? I'm wondering because I have a few trips > scheduled to Europe in the next few months and have use for telephony. > Failing this, is there an easy way to keep parallel MWAVE directories > and just rename things accordingly? > > I actually haven't heard too many positive things yet about 2.0 in this > list. Are there any happy campers out there using MWAVE 2.0? > > Regards, > Eugene Fiume. > The internal phone system at my work is sometimes a little difficult to deal with, so I have not got it to work here. But when I tried it at home I gave the modem ATX3 (or ATX1 for ignore dialtone and busy) for ignore dialtone. and it worked. I even got connect 28.8! So to you who want to try mwave2.00 in Europe, I can only say that it might work (in Norway). -- //// Harald Skotnes // Email: harald@staff.cs.uit.no / /// Dept. of Computer Science // Phone: +47 77 64 41 16 // // University of Tromsoe // Fax: +47 77 64 40 54 /// / N-9037 TROMSOE NORWAY // Like it or not, it's One World //// From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 29 07:08:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00276; Fri, 29 Sep 95 07:08:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA19589; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 06:57:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 06:57:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from globalvision.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA19579; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 06:57:22 -0400 Received: by globalvision.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA29072; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 06:47:14 +0500 Message-Id: <9509291047.AA29072@ globalvision.net> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Jane Loyless Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 06:56:59 EST Reply-To: jloyless@globalvision.net Subject: Re: Where to get MWave 2.0 ** Reply to note from josephw@inc.net 09/28/95 10:44pm CDT > They are also available on the IBM BBS (sorry, > don't have the number off the top of my head). > 919-517-0001 Jane From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 29 08:09:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07463; Fri, 29 Sep 95 08:09:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23266; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 08:01:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 08:01:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from viper.es.ele.tue.nl by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23226; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 08:01:44 -0400 Received: by viper.es.ele.tue.nl; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 13:01:33 +0100 Received: from E_EME/MAILQUEUE by emelan.eme.ele.tue.nl (Mercury 1.13); Fri, 29 Sep 95 13:00:57 MET-1DST Received: from MAILQUEUE by E_EME (Mercury 1.13); Fri, 29 Sep 95 13:00:35 MET-1DST From: "Maarten van de Velde" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 13:00:35 MET-2DST Subject: Re: MWAVE 2.0: to install or not to install Reply-To: elmemv@urc.tue.nl Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) Message-Id: > Have our European friends had any luck using MWAVE 2.0, or have you all > switched back to 1.10? I'm wondering because I have a few trips > scheduled to Europe in the next few months and have use for telephony. Well, I've just FTP-ed all the files from IBM's W3 page and I'm gonna try it out over the weekend. Since Harald Skotnes in Norway had some luck in getting things going I think that there is a fair chance that I can get it to work over here: *THE NETHERLANDS*. Like him, I had to use the ATX3 modem command for the 1.10 MWave. I will post my finding on the list one of the next days. Maarten van de Velde BTW. I think I didn't introduce me and my TP yet, but since last month I'm happy with my 755CE/24RAM/810HD, which I use to run Win95 (Yes: ... installing all the updates from IBM W3 overseas :-) I am a researcher in the Biomedical engineering field, mainly EEG signal processing (see "http://www.er.ele.tue.nl/eme/www/"). So I hack some [code] in C/C++/MSWord and also do some fun stuff like Webbing and Music writing - all on the TP! And I think this TP mailing list is great! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 29 11:06:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24643; Fri, 29 Sep 95 11:06:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10344; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 10:49:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 10:49:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from fris.fris.nl by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10321; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 10:49:50 -0400 Received: from fl1tty04.fris.nl (fl1tty04.fris.nl [193.67.218.69]) by fris.fris.nl (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA08562 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 16:50:50 -0100 Message-Id: <199509291750.QAA08562@fris.fris.nl> X-Sender: janomill@fris.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 15:49:00 +0200 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Jan van der Meulen Subject: new TP-user Hello, Hereby I like to introduce myself/my computer: I use a 750c with a 486 33 proc and 12 mb internal and 170mb harddisk (which already seems a little bit to small:-(( ) I have win95 running and are using WPWIN6.1 on this machine. I'm not very technical, but I'm reading the messages of this list with interest.. Jan van der Meulen From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 29 12:36:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10311; Fri, 29 Sep 95 12:36:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20750; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 12:19:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 12:19:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20711; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 12:19:41 -0400 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00496; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 12:24:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 12:24:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 29 12:49:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11499; Fri, 29 Sep 95 12:49:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22364; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 12:32:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 12:32:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from PEAK.ORG by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22332; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 12:32:19 -0400 Received: from filler11.PEAK.ORG (filler11.PEAK.ORG [198.68.21.145]) by PEAK.ORG (8.6.12/8.6.7) with SMTP id JAA18865; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 09:31:58 -0700 Received: by filler11.PEAK.ORG with Microsoft Mail id <01BA8E4E.C4A74600@filler11.PEAK.ORG>; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 09:34:26 -0700 Message-Id: <01BA8E4E.C4A74600@filler11.PEAK.ORG> From: Jim Lee To: "'mm'" Cc: "'Thinkpad Mailing List'" Subject: RE: 755 vs 701 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 09:24:33 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, No, the sound system on the 701 and 755 are *not* the same. The = 755CX/CD/CV use the Mwave DSP chip for sound, and also for modem & = telephony functions. The 701 uses the ESS688 sound chip, which is an = emulated sound blaster chip used in most other laptops. The 701 also = has a standard Rockwell-based 14.4K non-upgradeable modem. As far as = the screens go, I actually have one of each - dual scan *and* active = matrix. When put side-by-side, it is easy to see why you would want to = pay a little extra for the active matrix. Strangely, the battery on the = active matrix unit lasts about 10% longer than the passive-matrix. I = would have expected to see the opposite results. I switched the = batteries between the units to see if it made a difference, but I got = the same results. As for the keyboard, after posting my message, I = called up IBM Easyserv to find out if it was a common complaint = (mushiness), and they told me to send in my unit to have the keyboard = replaced. They promised a 3-day turnaround which turned out to be seven = due to a backorder on replacement keyboards. I just got the unit back = an hour ago, and have played with the new keyboard a little - it feels = great! I hope I can still say that after using it for a month or two, = though. I'm also posting this message to the TP750 list to advise other = 701 owners with sub-par keyboards to get them replaced - it makes a = world of difference. ---------- From: mm[SMTP:mm@HUGE.net.hk] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 1995 10:08 PM To: leejim@peak.org >From mm Fri Sep 29 13:08 HKT 1995 To: leejim@peak.org (Jim Lee) Subject: Re: TP 701 vs TP 755-Your opinions. Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 234 Is the sound system on the 701 & 755 the same? is your 701 dualscan or TFT? is the TFT display on the 701 same as the = 755? I'm gonna get a 701C, why is the keyboard "MUSHY?"=20 Does the machine not feel solid? Pls advise. Thanks. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Sep 29 13:52:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16676; Fri, 29 Sep 95 13:52:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28613; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 13:33:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 13:32:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay-3.mail.demon.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28558; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 13:32:16 -0400 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by relay-3.mail.demon.net id ab07545; 29 Sep 95 15:13 +0100 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, phong@phsmc.synapse.net Subject: Re: MWave 2.0 (connection problems) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 95 15:04:07 BST Message-Id: <9509291504.aa12014@hipass.filct.com> The noise definitely does not sound like any modem negotiation process that I've ever heard before. In fact it almost sounds like a harpsicord or electronic keyboard. In fact, there is a pattern that is something like this. 1. typical modem negotiation, then 2. 2 or 3 of those harpsicord notes. Well, the 2 strange notes (always reminds me of a stick twanged over the edge of a table) is characteristic of V34. But if you're not connecting, maybe the line isn't up to it, or (surely not ;-) the MWave driver is buggy. Mike From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Sep 30 01:54:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06466; Sat, 30 Sep 95 01:54:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01943; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:53:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:49:08 -0400 Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01564; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:49:07 -0400 From: "<@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu:elf@dgp.toronto.edu> Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id BAA16620; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:48:28 -0400 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:48:28 -0400 Message-Id: <199509300548.BAA16620@wilma.cs.utk.edu> Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21794; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 23:19:38 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144003>; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 23:19:23 -04 Apparently-To: To: undisclosed-recipients:;@cs.utk.edu 00 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: FaxWorks 3.0 and MWAVE 2.0 Message-Id: <95Sep29.231923edt.144003@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 23:19:12 -0400 My MWAVE modem says I'm connecting at the full 28.8Kbaud (K=1000) using my newly installed MWAVE 2.0 upgrade (on a 755CE with 16MB running DOS/Win3.1 for communication). Nice and fast. That's the good news. The bad news is that FaxWorks doesn't work any more. The MWAVE 2 docs say something about changing the fax priority, which I did. However, upon starting up FaxWorks, and before the MWAVE discriminator would normally have come up in MWAVE 1, I get the error: MCI Error There is an undetectable problem in loading the specified device driver. This (as usual for Windows) requires me to then reboot the machine, since all buttons then become inoperable. Now, faxworks.ini in windows\system specifies the MWAVE modem, so I'm a little confused about this error. MIDI stuff appears to play just fine, and the modem works both in DOS and in Windows. Would that it worked under Linux so I could drop the others for something I know. Any suggestions? Cheers, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Sep 30 01:54:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06471; Sat, 30 Sep 95 01:54:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02093; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:54:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:53:00 -0400 Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01909; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:52:58 -0400 From: Received: from wilma by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id BAA16672; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:52:34 -0400 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:52:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199509300552.BAA16672@wilma.cs.utk.edu> Received: from execpc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01202; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:37:46 -0400 Received: from earth.execpc.com (root@earth.execpc.com [204.29.202.50]) by execpc.com (8. Apparently-To: To: undisclosed-recipients:;@cs.utk.edu 7/8.6.11) with ESMTP id AAA18728 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 00:36:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from earth (dce@earth [204.29.202.50]) by earth.execpc.com (8.7/8.7) with SMTP id AAA00845 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 00:37:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 00:37:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Dave Clark X-Sender: dce@earth To: Thinkpad750 List Subject: mw2 dos/win Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I installed the mw2 dos/win drivers on my tp755ce, and ran into the following problems... Attempting to run Windows gives me a 'Call To Undefined Dynalink' error, and kicks me out. After playing around with it a bit, I noticed that I could avoid this critical error simply by removing the 'C:\MWW\DLL' portion of my path statement (which was added by the install). Of course, removing this also meant that I couldn't run any of the MWave software without getting the 'unable to locate .dll' errors. I looked into the win.ini & system.ini files to see what was in the 'run=' and 'drivers=' sections, and played with those enough to determine that both 'run=c:\mww\manager\mws.exe' and 'drivers=mmsystem.dll' were the source of the 'dynalink' errors I was getting. With 'C:\MWW\DLL' in my path, they don't work, but without it, they do. If anyone might have a thought or suggestion on this, it would be greatly appreciated. (I've tried re-installing everything over, same result). Also, it appears that activating my modem/sb emulation in DOS (using the fastcfg) uses an additional 4 meg of extended memory. Combining this with a 2 meg smartdrv, I end up with only 9 of my 16 meg available with nothing else loaded. Is this normal?? (This is with the sound resume feature off). Any thoughts appreciated, DC From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Sep 30 01:55:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06478; Sat, 30 Sep 95 01:55:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01938; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:53:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:51:01 -0400 Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01740; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:50:59 -0400 Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id BAA16637; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:50:23 -0400 Received: from linux.nicotra.com.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23364; Fri, 29 Sep 1995 23:37:41 -0400 Received: from nicotra.com.sg (wilson) by linux.nicotra.com.sg with SMTP id AA11797 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for < TP750@CS.UTK.EDU>); Sat, 30 Sep 1995 11:24:32 +0800 Message-Id: <199509300324.AA11797@linux.nicotra.com.sg> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 95 11:33:08 EDT From: Wilson Yip (Wilson Yip) Reply-To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) To: phong@phsmc.synapse.net Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Yang Kuangying's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: ram increase On Tue, 26 Sep 1995 23:36:43 -0400 (EDT) you wrote: >Only way to 32MB is with the DIMM module and you would have to buy the 8MB >and 16MB memory chips. If 24MB will suffice, you can buy the 16MB IC DRAM card. > At least one vendor sells a 32MB IC DRAM card and that is Kingston. Wilson Yip From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Sep 30 02:06:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07390; Sat, 30 Sep 95 02:06:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03057; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 02:06:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 30 Sep 1995 02:05:49 -0400 Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02988; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 02:05:47 -0400 From: Keith Moore Received: by wilma.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id CAA16904; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 02:05:44 -0400 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 02:05:44 -0400 Message-Id: <199509300605.CAA16904@wilma.cs.utk.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: apology for trashed messages Cc: moore@cs.utk.edu I am testing out a new list expander, and I misconfigured it, causing it to bounce three messages that were intended for the list. Then I tried to resend those messages using cut-and-paste, and ended up trashing them. So if you got wierd messages with lines like "To: undisclosed-recipients:;", my apologies. I believe I've now successfully resent all of the trashed messages to the list, but if yours didn't make it, please resend. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Sep 30 02:09:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07500; Sat, 30 Sep 95 02:09:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02798; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 02:01:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 02:01:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02778; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 02:01:39 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id CAA16825; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 02:01:36 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <199509300601.CAA16825@wilma.cs.utk.edu> Received: from execpc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01202; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:37:46 -0400 Received: from earth.execpc.com (root@earth.execpc.com [204.29.202.50]) by execpc.com (8.7/8.6.11) with ESMTP id AAA18728 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 00:36:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from earth (dce@earth [204.29.202.50]) by earth.execpc.com (8.7/8.7) with SMTP id AAA00845 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 00:37:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 00:37:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Dave Clark X-Sender: dce@earth To: Thinkpad750 List Subject: mw2 dos/win Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 02:01:30 -0400 Resent-From: Keith Moore I installed the mw2 dos/win drivers on my tp755ce, and ran into the following problems... Attempting to run Windows gives me a 'Call To Undefined Dynalink' error, and kicks me out. After playing around with it a bit, I noticed that I could avoid this critical error simply by removing the 'C:\MWW\DLL' portion of my path statement (which was added by the install). Of course, removing this also meant that I couldn't run any of the MWave software without getting the 'unable to locate .dll' errors. I looked into the win.ini & system.ini files to see what was in the 'run=' and 'drivers=' sections, and played with those enough to determine that both 'run=c:\mww\manager\mws.exe' and 'drivers=mmsystem.dll' were the source of the 'dynalink' errors I was getting. With 'C:\MWW\DLL' in my path, they don't work, but without it, they do. If anyone might have a thought or suggestion on this, it would be greatly appreciated. (I've tried re-installing everything over, same result). Also, it appears that activating my modem/sb emulation in DOS (using the fastcfg) uses an additional 4 meg of extended memory. Combining this with a 2 meg smartdrv, I end up with only 9 of my 16 meg available with nothing else loaded. Is this normal?? (This is with the sound resume feature off). Any thoughts appreciated, DC From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Sep 30 02:38:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08853; Sat, 30 Sep 95 02:38:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05195; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 02:38:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 30 Sep 1995 02:37:45 -0400 Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05135; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 02:37:42 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0syvY2-00010BC; Fri, 29 Sep 95 23:37 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Re: your mail To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 23:37:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199509300548.BAA16620@wilma.cs.utk.edu> from "cs.utk.edu!owner-tp750" at Sep 30, 95 01:48:28 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > my newly installed MWAVE 2.0 upgrade (on a 755CE with 16MB running DOS/Win3.1 > for communication). Nice and fast. That's the good news. > > The bad news is that FaxWorks doesn't work any more. IBM has released a new version of FaxWorks Voice on CompuServe. It is stated that this version (3.00f.058) is the one to use with MWave 2.0. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Sep 30 09:55:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00408; Sat, 30 Sep 95 09:55:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14736; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 09:54:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 30 Sep 1995 09:50:10 -0400 Received: from tequesta.gate.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14316; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 09:50:08 -0400 Received: from hopi.gate.net (jbush@hopi.gate.net [199.227.0.13]) by tequesta.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA62034 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 09:45:15 -0400 Received: (from jbush@localhost) by hopi.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA29208; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 09:45:01 -0400 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 09:45:00 -0400 (EDT) From: James Bush To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: MWAVE & RAM Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII first i would like to thank all of you who were kind enough to offer help on upgrading of ran. the help is much appreciated. Secondly, with regard to the mwave200 files. you will find that the files in compuserve are smaller in size than those labeled the same in the ftp. why this difference i do not know but the files are of different size. again thank you jamie From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Sep 30 10:08:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00495; Sat, 30 Sep 95 10:08:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15954; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 10:08:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 30 Sep 1995 10:07:51 -0400 Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15883; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 10:07:50 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA20035; Sat, 30 Sep 95 10:08:03 -0400 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 95 10:08:03 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509301408.AA20035@nile.gnat.com> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: using German phone lines I am going to Frankfurt next week, and hope to be able to dial in with (old!) Mwave software. But Radio Shack had no special plug available (they said that their plug kit was a new item not available for another two weeks). What do I need, and how do I get it (or make it!) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Sep 30 11:06:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09562; Sat, 30 Sep 95 11:06:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20622; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 11:06:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 30 Sep 1995 11:04:04 -0400 Received: from chsun.eunet.ch by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20297; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 11:04:01 -0400 Received: from ubszh.UUCP by chsun.eunet.ch (8.6.10/1.34) id QAA15487; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 16:03:38 +0100 Received: from stm537.ubszh.net.ch by ubszh.net.ch (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI-7.0.1) id AA05348; Sat, 30 Sep 95 16:01:43 +0100 Received: from stm555 by stm537.ubszh.net.ch (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA15656; Sat, 30 Sep 95 16:02:34 +0100 Message-Id: <9509301502.AA15656@stm537.ubszh.net.ch> Received: by stm555 (NX5.67e/NX3.0X) id AA05599; Sat, 30 Sep 95 16:02:33 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Tim Vetter Date: Sat, 30 Sep 95 16:02:32 +0100 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: using German phone lines Reply-To: vfr@stm537.ubszh.net.CH > I am going to Frankfurt next week, and hope to be able to > dial in with (old!) Mwave software. But Radio Shack had no > special plug available (they said that their plug kit was a > new item not available for another two weeks). What do I need, > and how do I get it (or make it!) You can get the physical adaptor to go from modular to the German plug at any decent electronics store there. However at least *some* of the available adaptors invert the pair combinations wrt North American devices, ie black/yellow active instead of red/green, so if you're not getting dialtone, this may be the problem. At this point get out your pocket knife! Myself, if I'm not sure about telecom standards at my destination, I bring a small hardware hacking kit consisting of alligator clips, electrical tape, a couple modular male-to-female adaptors, and scavenged bits of 4-conductor cabling with male modular plugs on one or both ends. That gives you a fair degree of flexibility in adapting to the quirks of the local system. Frequently I will dismantle the jack box so I can attach directly to loop. Although naturally any attempt to attach a non-approved device to a Continental phone network would be considered illegal if not particularly immoral. Two other things, call progress tones in many parts of Europe lack the precision of those from North American switches, so you may have to tell the modem to skip the dialtone check with, I believe, an ATXn. Second, lots of German lines are configured to send "toll pulses" (Gebuehrenimpulse) to the set, typically to click a mechanical counter as billing units go by. These pulses consist of short 14kHz tones at a whopping 10+ RMS Volts, a good order of magnitude stronger than your modem squawk. Most Continental modems have a low-pass filter built-in to take care of this, but North American modems will drop connections like crazy on a line like this. Not much you can do except construct your own filter or find another line that doesn't have Gebuehrenimpulse enabled. Then again maybe the MWave firmware is "global" in the sense that low-pass-filtering is there already ... I don't have one, so I can't check. ****************************************************** Tim Vetter vfr@stm537.ubszh.net.ch (MIME, NEXTMAIL) tim.vetter@ubs.com (ASCII, alternate) ------------------------------------------------------ Forex & Fixed Income Trading Development Union Bank of Switzerland voice: (+41) 1/2358422 fax: (+41) 1/2355129 snail: LEIT/LITH-VFR Postfach 8021 Zurich, Switzerland ****************************************************** From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Sep 30 12:24:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14983; Sat, 30 Sep 95 12:24:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27056; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 12:24:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 30 Sep 1995 12:22:00 -0400 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26799; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 12:21:58 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0558; Sat, 30 Sep 95 12:15:24 -0700 Message-Id: <9509301915.AA0558@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 31EC1E292DED88A5852562460046318F; Sat, 30 Sep 95 12:15:21 To: Eugene Fiume Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 29 Sep 95 9:05:05 EDT Subject: Re: MWAVE 2.0: to install or not to install Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....Failing this, is there an easy way to keep parallel MWAVE directories and just rename things accordingly?...." you could setup a boot menu in your config.sys like: [menu] menuitem=mw1, MWave 1.1 menuitem=mw2, MWave 2.0 then just make separate lists of config.sys commands under the headings [mw1] and [mw2]. separate your autoexec the same way, using :mw1 and :mw2 for headings, and make the first statement in your autoexec, goto %config%. then you don't have any manual renaming to do. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Sep 30 16:39:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11802; Sat, 30 Sep 95 16:39:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15505; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 16:38:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 30 Sep 1995 16:35:37 -0400 Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15336; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 16:35:35 -0400 Received: from muskie.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA29657; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 15:35:03 -0500 Received: by muskie.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA59546; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 15:33:58 -0500 From: rol@uhc.com (Roleigh Martin) Message-Id: <9509302033.AA59546@muskie.uhc.com> Subject: using German phone lines To: tp750@cs.utk.edu (IBM 750 newsgroup) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 15:33:58 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't have their address, but TeleAdapt, Inc. has the phone and electric adapters to help mobile warriors go to any and all countries in the world, including Germany. They are headquartered in London but have a California office. Email me during the week next week if you need their exact address--I won't be able to respond until around Friday. >>I am going to Frankfurt next week, and hope to be able to dial in with (old!) Mwave software. But Radio Shack had no special plug available (they said that their plug kit was a new item not available for another two weeks). What do I need, and how do I get it (or make it!) You can get the physical adaptor to go from modular to the German plug at any decent electronics store there. However at least *some* of the available adaptors invert the pair combinations wrt North American devices, ie black/yellow active instead of red/green, so if you're not getting dialtone, this may be the problem. At this point get out your pocket knife! Myself, if I'm not sure about telecom standards at my destination, I bring a small hardware hacking kit consisting of alligator clips, electrical tape, a couple modular male-to-female adaptors, and scavenged bits of 4-conductor cabling with male modular plugs on one or both ends. That gives you a fair degree of flexibility in adapting to the quirks of the local system. Frequently I will dismantle the jack box so I can attach directly to loop. Although naturally any attempt to attach a non-approved device to a Continental phone network would be considered illegal if not particularly immoral. Two other things, call progress tones in many parts of Europe lack the precision of those from North American switches, so you may have to tell the modem to skip the dialtone check with, I believe, an ATXn. Second, lots of German lines are configured to send "toll pulses" (Gebuehrenimpulse) to the set, typically to click a mechanical counter as billing units go by. These pulses consist of short 14kHz tones at a whopping 10+ RMS Volts, a good order of magnitude stronger than your modem squawk. Most Continental modems have a low-pass filter built-in to take care of this, but North American modems will drop connections like crazy on a line like this. Not much you can do except construct your own filter or find another line that doesn't have Gebuehrenimpulse enabled. Then again maybe the MWave firmware is "global" in the sense that low-pass-filtering is there already ... I don't have one, so I can't check. ****************************************************** Tim Vetter vfr@stm537.ubszh.net.ch (MIME, NEXTMAIL) tim.vetter@ubs.com (ASCII, alternate) ------------------------------------------------------ Forex & Fixed Income Trading Development Union Bank of Switzerland voice: (+41) 1/2358422 fax: (+41) 1/2355129 snail: LEIT/LITH-VFR Postfach 8021 Zurich, Switzerland ****************************************************** << -- Roleigh Martin, Rt. MN06-6130 Opinions are mine not UHC | UHC, Advanced Technology AT&T/vmail: (612) 945-6529| 9705 Data Park Drive FAX: (612) 945-6502| Minnetonka, MN 55343 Email: rol@lochness.uhc.com| ** B'days are good for health ** Statistics show that people with most b'days live the longest From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Sep 30 19:12:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08172; Sat, 30 Sep 95 19:12:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26503; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 19:12:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 30 Sep 1995 19:10:49 -0400 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26400; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 19:10:47 -0400 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA05940; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 09:10:44 +1000 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA25088; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 09:10:41 +1000 Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 09:10:41 +1000 Message-Id: <199509302310.JAA25088@leonard.anu.edu.au> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: mwave outside the u.s. ibm makes and sells an external version of the mwave modem that bascially plugs into the same socket on thinkpads. you might want to consider getting one of these for use outside the u.s. - could save a lot of time. regards, al + Alden S. Klovdahl, Ph.D e-mail: alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au Department of Sociology fax: +61 62 49 05 25 The Faculties voice - The Australian National University messages: +61 62 49 45 21 Canberra A.C.T. my office: +61 62 49 44 79 Australia 0200 home: +61 62 82 35 81 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Sep 30 22:19:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16261; Sat, 30 Sep 95 22:19:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10031; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 22:19:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 30 Sep 1995 22:16:53 -0400 Received: from maple.grove.iup.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09840; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 22:16:49 -0400 Received: from grove.iup.edu by grove.iup.edu (PMDF V4.3-13 #2467) id <01HVWG59HT008Y661K@grove.iup.edu>; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 22:16:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 22:11:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark_Strawcutter Subject: TrackPoint II drifting To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01HVWIPFXXTS8Y661K@grove.iup.edu> Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania X-Envelope-To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT My 755CD TrackPint III will have mild episodes of drift - the mouse cursor will start moving on it's own - that usually stop after .25-.50 inches. This I can live with and even remember reading about in the manual somewhere. The real reason for this post is an older 350 we have at work. It has more frequent episodes with it's TrackPoint II, but the cursor will keep moving until it hits the edge of the screen. I know the 350 isn't technically within the scope of this list, but I wondered if any of you experienced a similar problem with a 350 and if so was there a solution. Thanks ---------- Mark J Strawcutter Internet: mjstraw@grove.iup.edu Director, Systems and Communications BITNET: MJSTRAW@IUP Indiana University of Pennsylvania Voice: (412) 357-4007 Indiana, PA 15705 "you can't nail jello to a tree"