From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 1 05:05:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA044037924; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 05:05:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06856; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 05:05:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Jul 1997 05:04:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06759; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 05:04:04 -0400 Received: from sunset.ma.huji.ac.il (sunset.ma.huji.ac.il [132.64.32.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06716; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 05:03:41 -0400 Received: from localhost (hart@localhost) by sunset.ma.huji.ac.il (8.6.11/8.6.10) with SMTP id MAA08795 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:05:03 +0300 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:05:02 +0300 (IDT) From: Sergiu Hart X-Sender: hart@sunset.ma.huji.ac.il To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: cdlink Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu [] some months ago, people on this list mentioned cdlink -- to connect two computers and use the cd-drive on one as a cd-drive on the other. i have downloaded it, but despite all my efforts it does not seem to work. could some kind soul that was successful tell me what i am doing wrong? my setup is as follows: (1) desktop w/cd-drive: windows 3.11 for workgroups config.sys includes a line that defines the cdrom drive autoexec.bat includes the line "mscdex /d:mscd000" (2) laptop (thinkpad 560): windows 95 config.sys includes "device=cdlink.sys" autoexec.bat includes "mscdex /d:mscd000" -- on computer (1) i run "cdserve" and select the parallel port -- i reboot computer (2) (in dos mode), and i get "no cdrom server connected" notes: the cdrom works on computer (1) the parallel ports connection is ok (i can run norton commander link, for example) any ideas? i would really like to be able to use the cdrom drive for my 560!!! thanx. bye, --sergiu-- -------------------------------------- http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~hart -------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 1 16:14:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA131268071; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:14:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17467; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:13:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:09:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17021; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:09:56 -0400 Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA ([142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16922; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:09:40 -0400 Received: from ppp14.Triumf.CA by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 01 Jul 1997 12:30:20 PST Received: by ppp14.Triumf.CA with Microsoft Mail id <01BC8618.24F4EEA0@ppp14.Triumf.CA>; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:13:11 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC8618.24F4EEA0@ppp14.Triumf.CA> From: peter machule To: "martin@matchb.demon.co.uk" , "'PEPSales@aol.com'" Cc: "pepwbmst@portables.com" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Replacement screens for TP750 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:12:23 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu NO !!!!! For an upgrade "expert" that was amazingly wrong !! ..Boy that felt good ;-}.. IBM lists part # 66G3616 as the official Mono to Color Active upgrade. This is from the thinkpad 750 Family glossy available from IBM's faxback and still (?) from their web page. Other possibilities are from the HMM (hardware maintenance manual Vol 2) ..everyone here has one of these ..right ??? ;-} 66G5058 normal version for 750C and the 755C. 66G5083 german grey bezel version. 84G4316 japan version of the 755C's 66G5058 . Note: price and availability are a completely different issue!!!! There is a version of the TP755C that has no contrast controll. It probably won't work as it also has a different motherboard. ..peter.. ---------- From: PEPSales@aol.com[SMTP:PEPSales@aol.com] Sent: Monday, June 30, 1997 3:02 PM To: martin@matchb.demon.co.uk Cc: pepwbmst@portables.com; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Replacement screens for TP750 Martin, We have been in upgrades for quite a long time and we have not seen a scdren upgrade for any systems. I hope you can find one, but I do not believe one exists. In my experience, you can only replace the screen you currently have with the same type of screen. That system is basically stuck with that screen >from the cradle to the grave. An easy way to get a color display is to connect it to a color CRT. If you are looking for other upgrade information like CPU, HDD, RAM or Accessories - I can send you information. Good luck in your search. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM 800-737-7693 X102 714-418-0113 X102 Tel 714-418-0117 Fax Up to 3GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: Replacement screens for TP750 Date: 97-06-29 18:51:29 EDT From: martin@matchb.demon.co.uk (Martin Young) Sender: martin@mail.demon.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad Mailing List) Hi, I have a mono 750 which has given sterling service in the last 3 years. My only gripe is the screen which is barely visible in bright light conditions. I've seen replacement screens for some other thinkpads for sale, I wouls like to know which TFT screens would be compatible with my 750. Martin. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 1 16:15:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA131438127; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:15:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17656; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:14:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:14:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17503; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:14:06 -0400 Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (erich.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17472; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:13:55 -0400 Received: from ppp14.Triumf.CA by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 01 Jul 1997 13:09:08 PST Received: by ppp14.Triumf.CA with Microsoft Mail id <01BC861D.8DC80200@ppp14.Triumf.CA>; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:51:55 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC861D.8DC80200@ppp14.Triumf.CA> From: peter machule To: Martin Young , Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: RE: Replacement screens for TP750 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:45:59 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Tim is right...;-} No, I'm not saying this as flame bait... The little plastic pieces mentioned below are different for the 750 versus 750C. Me thinks that a little X-acto knife would fix all this.....But. I'm damm sure my 750P display would fit on my 360CE but i haven't done so ..... The 750P is quite visible in sunlight ..not as good as a 730t tablet but better than a 360Ce active matrix. I'll try to have all 3 outside at the same time .....but today it's raining ;-} And yes any swap means replacing the whole LCD ASSEMBLY. If you still want to go on: Give TRENKDOG3 a call ....usually active on the comp.sys.laptop usenet group ---------- From: Tim Tyhurst[SMTP:tim@excelsior.com] Sent: Sunday, June 29, 1997 7:18 PM To: Martin Young; Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: Replacement screens for TP750 > I have a mono 750 which has given sterling service in the last 3 years. > My only gripe is the screen which is barely visible in bright light > conditions. I've seen replacement screens for some other thinkpads for > sale, I wouls like to know which TFT screens would be compatible with my > 750. I doubt that you would be successful in just trying to replace the LCD panel. In addition to the physical problems of fitting the 10.4" TFT in the place of the 9.5" DSTN mono, you also have to replace the driver circuitry and wiring harness. At that point you might as well just replace the entire LCD assembly. A quick scan of the hardware maintenance manual for the 750 shows that the parts that are different between the 750 and the 750C are: LCD assembly Hinge cover Status indicator assembly Base cover assembly Upper cover I'm not sure how many of these would *have* to be replaced, although I'd expect that most might be necessary just so the TFT LCD assembly would fit. My two cents: it's not worth it. Take the $500 that you'd have to spend on the TFT alone and put it towards a new machine. By the way, the TFT display on my 760C is pretty much invisible outdoors, but the mono display on my 750P is fairly readable in direct sunlight. tim From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 1 22:00:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA181588799; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:59:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05685; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:58:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:56:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05342; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:56:52 -0400 Received: from iceland.it.earthlink.net (iceland-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.28]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05330; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:56:47 -0400 Received: from pool040-max8.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool040-max8.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.24.40]) by iceland.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA25765; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 18:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707020156.SAA25765@iceland.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Maurice klein Gebbinck" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 24 Jun 95 23:56:55 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP701 and FreeBSD Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:59:57 +0200, Maurice klein Gebbinck wrote: >Hi all, > >Last week I installed FreeBSD, next to Win95, on my >ThinkPad 701C (DX4-75, TFT, 24MB, 540MB). I use the >FreeBSD bootmanager to select which OS to run. >Although FreeBSD seems to run okay, I cannot get into >the BIOS-setup (Fn-F1) when running this OS; fortunately, >it is still possible when running Win95. Furthermore, >suspend (Fn-F4) doesn't work anymore (don't know about >hibernate), although I did a kernel compilation with >the APM-option on. Does anybody have a solution for >this problem? Can anybody send me his/her kernel >configuration file? > >Since I am planning to install XFree86, could anobody >send me his/her X-configuration file as well? > >Best regards, > >Maurice >-- >Maurice klein Gebbinck >University of Nijmegen, Computing Science Institute >Toernooiveld 1, 6525 ED Nijmegen, The Netherlands >Phone +31 24 3652710, Fax +31 24 3553450 >http://www.cs.kun.nl/~mauricek > You might consider Linux. I used to have Debian GNU/Linux alongside OS/2 Warp 3, until I needed the space and bought a new drive, and found that although I couldn't enable the APM function, I got a heck of a long battery life when not using my AC adapter, something like 2.5-3 hours, compared with 1-1.5 with OS/2 (and also considering the use this battery got. I wish I could send you my kernel for Debian, but I currently don't even have installed on my new drive because of a lack of resources and time (figuringout how to install,with directories in the wrong place. Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 1 22:00:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA181628809; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 22:00:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05710; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:59:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:57:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05432; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:57:21 -0400 Received: from iceland.it.earthlink.net (iceland-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.28]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05412; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:57:15 -0400 Received: from pool040-max8.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool040-max8.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.24.40]) by iceland.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA25940; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 18:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707020157.SAA25940@iceland.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "David S. Crombie" , "Pat Vellender" , "Thinkpad Mailing List - New Post" Date: Sun, 25 Jun 95 00:20:34 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Bad Keys on 360CSE Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 11 Jun 1997 17:58:21 -0700, David S. Crombie wrote: >I had a 360C that had the same problem - some keys just stopped working. I, however, fortunately had it done under warranty. IBM just replaced the keyboard. As far as I know it's not an uncommon problem with that keyboard. I'm not sure how much a keyboard would cost.... good luck >_______________________________________ >David S. Crombie >dcrombie@bc.sympatico.ca >dscrombi@aol.com > ---- >From: Pat Vellender >To: Thinkpad Mailing List - New Post >Date: Wednesday, June 11, 1997 9:18 AM >Subject: Bad Keys on 360CSE > >-- [ From: Pat Vellender * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- > >Hi, > >The 9, O, L, PERIOD, F6, F7 and F8 on my 360CSE are not working. All other >keys work fine. If I plug an external keyboard into the keyboard/mouse port >via a Y-adapter cable, all keys work fine. Is there anything I can do to >fix this problem or do I need to replace the keyboard? > >Anyone out there with a dead 360 that wants to sell the keyboard? Part # is >84G5728. > >Thanks, > >Pat V. > > The last I checked, the price was about $115. It could be more or less now, though. You also might try calling 1-800-388-7080, and I think pressing 1,3,1, or whatever it is for automated price inquiries (computerized). Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 1 22:03:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA182019031; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 22:03:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06189; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 22:03:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Jul 1997 22:02:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06029; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 22:02:25 -0400 Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06019; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 22:02:21 -0400 Received: from pool040-max8.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool040-max8.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.24.40]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA01458 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 19:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707020202.TAA01458@sweden.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Tue, 01 Jul 97 19:03:33 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Status Update - broken 701cs Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Just for a status update, IBM (or at least EasyServe) FINALLY shipped out my front display bezel, and keyboard shelf through FedEx Overnight. Unfortunantly, the backlight cracked partially as a result of the unfixed problem from before, though. I would estimate that it has been at least a month now since this came up. Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 1 22:36:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA185970985; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 22:36:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05775; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:59:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:57:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05481; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:57:36 -0400 Received: from iceland.it.earthlink.net (iceland-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.28]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05424; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:57:19 -0400 Received: from pool040-max8.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool040-max8.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.24.40]) by iceland.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA25869; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 18:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707020156.SAA25869@iceland.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Arifi Koseoglu" , "David Ross" Cc: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 25 Jun 95 00:16:56 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Disassembling a 701CS Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 11 Jun 97 13:27:24 HST, David Ross wrote: >> The speaker in a friend's 701 sounds like it either died or >> got unplugged (is this possible ?). > >Two other causes of the speaker going south are: (1) problems with the >headphone jack. Try pluging/unplugging/wiggling headphones until you're >sure the jack contacts are returning to speaker mode when the 'phones >are removed. (2) Problems with the DSP. Is there sound through >headphones when you plug them in? If not, then your DSP (rather than >your speaker) is likely the problem. > >- David > > > I had the same problem with my speaker in my 701, and I tried fixing the headphone jack, which was giving off AC line noise when being powered through the worldwide adapter I use. Unfortuantly, a contact on the jack broke loose, but now the speaker works, with distortion because I used to poke at it to get it to work. Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 2 01:55:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA209342908; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 01:55:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15367; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 01:54:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 01:52:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15198; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 01:52:42 -0400 Received: from access.mbnet.mb.ca (root@access.mbnet.mb.ca [204.112.178.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15186; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 01:52:34 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME (ts2m-15.mbnet.mb.ca [204.112.178.34]) by access.mbnet.mb.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA05026 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 00:52:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <33BA0898.3FEA@mbnet.mb.ca> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 00:51:53 -0700 From: Jason Savage Reply-To: Jason_Savage@mbnet.mb.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: 701C and Fujitsu 1.0GB HD compatibility Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I just purchased (but haven't received yet) a Fujitsu M2714T 1.0GB Hard Drive for use in my ThinkPad 701C. It is an EIDE drive that is 2.5 inch drive that is 12.5 mm thick. Has anyone heard of any problems in getting this particular drive to work in a 701C. Thanks in advance for any help. Sincerely, Jason Savage Savage@MBnet.MB.CA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 2 10:03:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA269752214; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:03:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12863; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:03:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:00:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12677; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:00:46 -0400 Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12663; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:00:38 -0400 Received: from ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com (ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.25]) by docws001.shl.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA18870 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 08:47:39 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC86CE.E5FDC610@ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com>; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:01:23 -0400 Message-Id: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Insight has the IBM 14.4modem/Ethernet adapter for $26 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:55:07 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 41 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just got my 3 H&A LAN/modems from insight. The package says "Lifetime warranty." Now I need a couple of cheap hubs & some ISA LAN cards. Interestingly, the Win 95 driver comes on a disk that was just inserted into the colourful outer box, rather than inside the corrugated cardboard inner box... with the cards and the cables. Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com ---------- From: Steve Parker[SMTP:sparker@goblin.punk.net] Sent: 1997 June 29 - Sunday 23:02 To: Jeffrey Schwartz Cc: Stephen Gutknecht; 'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu' Subject: Re: Insight has the IBM 14.4modem/Ethernet adapter for $26 On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, Jeffrey Schwartz wrote: > Just be careful, the card is no longer supported by IBM. All they will do > is replace the card if it is bad. There are drivers on the web site & a fax > doc that can be sent. Doc no 20000. > > Even if you offer to pay IBM for support, they won't help. > > Just a warning. I've heard from others that called IBM about the H&A cards. They will support them, but it costs $150 or so an hour. At $25 they are an excellent deal. I'm tempted to pick up a couple more, but don't know if they work with Linux. I would want them for basically older notebooks running Linux and doing dedicated tasks. Steve From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 2 10:23:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA273003381; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:23:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14266; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:22:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:20:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14052; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:20:50 -0400 Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14014; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:20:34 -0400 Received: from ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com (ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.25]) by docws001.shl.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA55058 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:07:38 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC86D1.B135A120@ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com>; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:21:23 -0400 Message-Id: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" , Peter Lewis Subject: RE: 701c video questions Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:16:26 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 27 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I use my 701CS at 64K colours under Win95. I understand it's also faster at that resolution - I think drivers are avbl at IBM & Chips & Technologies sites. Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com ---------- From: Peter Lewis[SMTP:peterl@citylinq.com] Sent: 1997 June 29 - Sunday 01:51 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701c video questions What are the resolution and color-palette options for the 701c? I'm at 640x480 and 256 colors, which are the settings the previous owner used. Can either be bumped up? Is that a good idea? Near as I can tell, the manual is silent on this. Thanks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 2 14:10:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA025647045; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:10:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03071; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:10:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:07:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02860; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:07:20 -0400 Received: from shell.izap.com (root@shell.izap.com [207.211.45.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02849; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:07:13 -0400 Received: from NO-IDENT-SERVICE@fr20.izap.com (port 1028 [207.211.45.120]) by shell.izap.com with SMTP id <227965-12375>; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:07:04 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970702110354.006a6ad8@izap.com> X-Sender: jg@izap.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 11:03:54 -0700 To: "TROTTIER, Tom" From: josh Subject: RE: 701c video questions Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I currently have my TP701CS set at 16 BIT (High Color) under Windows 95, the next highest setting is True Color (24 BIT), Can the TP701CS handle this? Also, I don't see a setting for 64k Colors as you mentioned, I am curious as to what is the aboslute Best & Optimum Video Mode setting for the TP701CS (*Note "CS"), and how I select 64K Colors do I need to get the new drivers first then selct 64K? Thanks... jg@izap.com At 10:16 AM 7/2/97 -0400, you wrote: >I use my 701CS at 64K colours under Win95. I understand it's also faster at >that resolution - I think drivers are avbl at IBM & Chips & Technologies >sites. > >Tom >_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect >SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre >50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada >+1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com > >---------- >From: Peter Lewis[SMTP:peterl@citylinq.com] >Sent: 1997 June 29 - Sunday 01:51 >To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >Subject: 701c video questions > >What are the resolution and color-palette options for the 701c? > >I'm at 640x480 and 256 colors, which are the settings the previous owner >used. > >Can either be bumped up? Is that a good idea? Near as I can tell, the >manual is silent on this. > >Thanks. > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 2 14:50:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA033139456; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:50:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05333; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:50:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:49:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05216; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:49:26 -0400 Received: from tky0.attnet.or.jp (tky0.attnet.or.jp [165.76.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05188; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:49:17 -0400 Received: from compaq (39.gate9.tokyo.attnet.or.jp [165.76.17.247]) by tky0.attnet.or.jp (8.7.5+Spin/3.4W4-PP-R5(05/15/97)) id DAA10178; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:49:15 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199707021849.DAA10178@tky0.attnet.or.jp> From: "Maiko Kobayashi" To: Subject: QuickRes Problem on TP 380 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:48:54 +0900 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I installed QuickRes, one of the Powertoys from Microsoft, on a ThinkPad 380 (TFT display, NeoMagig MagicGraph 128ZV). On my desktop computer QuickRes lets me change both the resolution and the color depth. On the ThinkPad, however, I can only change the resolution (800x600 or 640x480). To change the color depth (8 bit or 16 bit) I have to access the Display Properties from the Control Panel. Can I change the color depth with QuickRes, and if yes, how? Thank you for your help. Friedrich Huebler via mkobay@tky0.attnet.or.jp From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 2 14:58:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA034369907; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:58:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05828; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:57:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:57:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05723; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:57:17 -0400 Received: from nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05712; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:57:04 -0400 Received: from rheo-port.pse.umass.edu by nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SMTP (PP); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:56:07 +0200 Received: by rheo-port.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BC86F8.0DE11F00@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:56:00 -0400 Message-Id: <01BC86F8.0DE11F00@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> From: axel hartmann To: "TROTTIER, Tom" , "'josh'" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: 701c video questions Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:55:32 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu hi, >I currently have my TP701CS set at 16 BIT (High Color) under Windows 95, >the next highest setting is True Color (24 BIT), Can the TP701CS handle >this? Also, I don't see a setting for 64k Colors as you mentioned, I am >curious as to what is the aboslute Best & Optimum Video Mode setting for >the TP701CS (*Note "CS"), and how I select 64K Colors do I need to get the >new drivers first then selct 64K? 16 bit at two states per bit equals 2^16=65536=64*1024=64k. windows apparently does a lot of internal processing using 16 bit colors, and that does not have the memory overhead of 24bit. the 701-screen (at least the cs-version) does not actually differentiate to that number of colors, however it is better than 256 colors, simply because you're avoiding the palette changes. axel ...................................................................... Axel Hartmann . Paper Summer : 30 Kellog Ave; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . Voice only : +1 (413) 256 - 6264 . E-Mail : Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . ...................................................................... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 2 15:01:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA035390089; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:01:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06076; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:00:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:00:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06003; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:00:21 -0400 Received: from shell.izap.com (root@shell.izap.com [207.211.45.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05992; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:00:12 -0400 Received: from NO-IDENT-SERVICE@fr23.izap.com (port 1284 [207.211.45.123]) by shell.izap.com with SMTP id <227965-12375>; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:00:07 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970702115705.006a6ad8@izap.com> X-Sender: jg@izap.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 11:57:05 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: josh Subject: GENERAL TP701CS QUESTIONS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu (sorry it's so long) Just got my TP701CS couple weeks ago.. Have already installed WIN95, left DOS in place and am using System Commander to select between plain no frills DOS (need it for work specific DOS software) and full blown WIN 95. Well I removed OS2 & most of the Pre-Loaded wing-dings, I no longer have WIN 3.1 (which is OK, I guess)... My questions are as follows, for a basic DOS setup, what are the proper drivers & settings for the CONFIG.SYS/AUTOEXEC.BAT files? As I have them, they seem to work fine, but I know somethings amiss (and I need more 'free memory') , mainly in PCMCIA area, I'm not sure what are the REQUIRED drivers for PCMCIA support. I upgraded the System BIOS for WIN95 already and as stated WIN95 is working, but I am unsure for the 701CS what the Optimum/Proper settings are... I have a problem right now with my Multi-Port II, IRDA, MODEM & Comm Port going haywire with Conflicts, what are the best settings for the 701CS's BIOS/Config for the Serial/Modem Ports? Ideally I want to have my Multi-Port II's CommPort as COM 1, since I do a lot of interfacing with equipment and some of it only works with a setting for Comm 1, WIN 95 likes my modem on Comm 1, but I can setup the Modem for Comm2, it will work but, then WIN 95 show me having 2 Modems (TP701 Internal Modem #1 & #2)... Also I downloaded the IRDA drivers from Microsoft (per "Craig's Butterfly Page"), I'm not sure how the IRDA should be setup. I don't have an immediate need for the IRDA but plan in the near future to transfer files between my palmtop & 701 this way (neet-O!). I want to get Direct Cable connection to work with my desktop but can't seem to get the 2 to communicate, any better ways of doing this? Also, what is THE BEST sound recoredr/player software for the TP701CS? And I would like to utilize the Full Duplex SpeakerPhone capabilities like those that came pre-loaded with WIN3.1, so again what is THE BEST FAX/VoiceMAIL/SpeakerPhone sofwtare? Next Question... IS there an xternal CD-ROM available for the TP701CS, that plugs in where the Floppy normally would or is my only option getting a PCMCIA CD-ROM? Any Answers/Comments/Suggestions, are GREATLY appreciated... jg@izap.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 2 15:03:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA035620186; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:03:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06265; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:02:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:01:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06154; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:01:31 -0400 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@[204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06114; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:01:21 -0400 Received: from localhost (sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA15305; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:01:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: josh Cc: "TROTTIER, Tom" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: 701c video questions In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970702110354.006a6ad8@izap.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, josh wrote: > I currently have my TP701CS set at 16 BIT (High Color) under Windows 95, > the next highest setting is True Color (24 BIT), Can the TP701CS handle > this? Also, I don't see a setting for 64k Colors as you mentioned, I am > curious as to what is the aboslute Best & Optimum Video Mode setting for > the TP701CS (*Note "CS"), and how I select 64K Colors do I need to get the > new drivers first then selct 64K? 16-bit = 2^16 or 65536. 65536/1024=64K. 16-bit color = 64K colors. They are just different ways of saying the same thing. Some high color 16-bit modes really only use 5 bits per color for a total of 32K colors. The ones that use all 16 bits usually use the extra bit for green since out eyes are more sensitive to variations of green. I run my TP560-120 at 800x600,16-bit. ============================================================================ ==== Steve Parker ==== San Luis Obispo, CA ==== Multi-OS & Multitasking ==== ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 2 15:46:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA043502790; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:46:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09951; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:45:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:44:10 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09662; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:44:09 -0400 Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id PAA02927; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:44:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18563; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 03:17:38 -0400 Received: from tom-s-laptop (slip129-37-231-243.co.us.ibm.net [129.37.231.243]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA55486; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 07:17:38 GMT Message-Id: <199707020717.HAA55486@out2.ibm.net> Reply-To: From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Thinkpad Distribution List" , Subject: Thinkpad 76x Cache Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 00:37:25 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I know some desktop motherboards do not cache all the RAM in a machine. As a result, adding more than 64MB of RAM dramatically decreases performance of the machine because some memory is no longer cached. Does anybody know if the TP76x machines cache all 104MB their RAM? I am about to upgrade, but wonder if I will take a performance hit. \\|||// (o) (o) ======.oOO==( )==OOo.======= || || || Thomas D. Franklin || || tom.franklin@usa.net || || || || .oooO Oooo. || =======( )===( )======== \ ( ) / \_) (_/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 2 15:58:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA044813504; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:58:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10673; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:57:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:56:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10592; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:56:52 -0400 Received: from nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10577; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:56:46 -0400 Received: from rheo-port.pse.umass.edu by nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SMTP (PP); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:56:21 +0200 Received: by rheo-port.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BC8700.78DE0FE0@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:56:15 -0400 Message-Id: <01BC8700.78DE0FE0@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> From: axel hartmann To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: GENERAL TP701CS QUESTIONS Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:56:14 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu hi again, [...] >those that came pre-loaded with WIN3.1, so again what is THE BEST >FAX/VoiceMAIL/SpeakerPhone sofwtare? just re-install the faxworks-software that came with the thinkpad, they work just fine under w95. the files to make the two installation- disks are on ibm's web-site. one quirk: the hard drive must be named "KOATCUS" for faxworks to install and maybe even to run. >Any Answers/Comments/Suggestions, are GREATLY appreciated... > >jg@izap.com one suggestion: get an email address from a recognized domain. my reply to your other mail directly to you bounced... axel ...................................................................... Axel Hartmann . Paper Summer : 30 Kellog Ave; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . Voice only : +1 (413) 256 - 6264 . E-Mail : Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . ...................................................................... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 2 21:00:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA093171648; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:00:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28453; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:58:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:57:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28293; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:57:10 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28281; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:57:04 -0400 Received: from ssh (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02916; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 19:05:18 -0600 Message-Id: <33BAF93A.B4819614@wwsi.com> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 18:58:34 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: tdf@ibm.net Cc: Thinkpad Distribution List , askibm@info.ibm.com Subject: Re: Thinkpad 76x Cache X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199707020717.HAA55486@out2.ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am running a 760XD with 88MB of memory. It sure seems cached to me! It sped up a lot over the 32MB that I had to start with. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 2 21:41:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA098524077; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:41:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00386; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:39:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:39:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00265; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:39:16 -0400 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00253; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:39:11 -0400 Received: from tom-s-laptop (slip129-37-231-109.co.us.ibm.net [129.37.231.109]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA27134 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:39:07 GMT Message-Id: <199707030139.BAA27134@out2.ibm.net> Reply-To: From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Thinkpad Distribution List" Subject: IBM's Mwave Modem news Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 19:39:38 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Copied from http://www3.pc.ibm.com/support/techinfo/45e6.html MWave Modem - Past, Present and Future When it first shipped, the MWave Modem supported up to 14.4K data rates. A free upgrade early in 1996 took it to 28.8K. Towards the end of 1996, a 33.6K update was released - publicly for certain Aptiva models and an IBM internal beta for ThinkPads. The ThinkPad upgrade will be released to customers soon, and all current MWave systems will likely support some form of 56kbps modem late in 1997 once the emerging PCM-based standard is ratified. Note: Some 56K Modems will be available before then but they will probably be based on extensions to current V.34 technology rather than PCM. All this is possible because, uniquely in the Modem world, the MWave Modem is completely software-driven. Other implementations may be easier to configure initially, but hardwiring a Modem's logic or burning code into EPROM makes speed-upgrading (and indeed bug fixing) difficult if not impossible. Hybrid implementations also exist in the marketplace (such as "WinModems"). These have some modem function - such as the critical Data Pump - hardwired in silicon, and use the main system processor to handle other functions such as compression and error-correction. Although this implementation is cost-effective and does permit upgrading/fixing the protocol functions, the maximum data rate is fixed and there can be considerable CPU performance degradation - 10% or more is likely. Not only that, one common implementation today (Compaq's Lucent Modem) does not offer native DOS, Windows NT or OS/2 support. In contact, MWave is supported on all popular operating systems. (snip) Copyright 1997 IBM Corporation last published: 1997-07-02 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 2 22:34:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA106917265; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:34:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03503; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:32:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:32:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03414; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:32:07 -0400 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@morgana.punk.net [204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03402; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:31:57 -0400 Received: from localhost (sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA15783 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 19:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 19:32:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: Thinkpad Distribution List Subject: Re: IBM's Mwave Modem news In-Reply-To: <199707030139.BAA27134@out2.ibm.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Tom Franklin wrote: > Copied from http://www3.pc.ibm.com/support/techinfo/45e6.html > > MWave Modem - Past, Present and Future > > All this is possible because, uniquely in the Modem world, the MWave > Modem is completely software-driven. Other implementations may be > easier to configure initially, but hardwiring a Modem's logic or > burning code into EPROM makes speed-upgrading (and indeed bug fixing) > difficult if not impossible. They seem to be completely unaware of the USR Couriers. One of my Couriers started as a v.32bis only modem, then after a free daughterboard upgrade it supported 28.8. Then one free flash code update later it did 33.6. Then after a free flash update [if you signed up during the right time frame] it can do the USR x2 56K protocol. About 3-3.5 years after I bought it it is still basically up to current spec. Building a modem around an 80186 and two TI DSP's can work wonders. USR also claims it'll be able to handle the final 56K spec whenever it gets here. Most people are surprised that my old modem with a front panel saying it is a v.32bis modem can still do as well as it does.. =) ============================================================================ ==== Steve Parker ==== San Luis Obispo, CA ==== Multi-OS & Multitasking ==== ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 2 23:07:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA112099221; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:07:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04910; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:04:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:04:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04802; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:04:11 -0400 Received: from mail01.citylinq.net ([207.173.198.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04791; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:04:06 -0400 Received: from pele.wolfenet.com ([207.173.198.44]) by mail01.citylinq.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0122 ID# 201-33923U500L100S0) with SMTP id AAA180 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:03:23 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970702200416.0069a788@mail01.citylinq.net> X-Sender: peterl@mail01.citylinq.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 20:04:16 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Lewis Subject: video questions redux Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks those who responded to a video-questions message I posted a couple weeks ago. I'd asked about the resolution and color-palette options for the 701C. I mentioned I'd inherited the previous owner's settings of 640x480 and 256 colors, and asked if either could be bumped up. I neglected to mention I'm running Win95. The consensus seemed to be I couldn't do anything about 640x480, but that I could bump the colors to as high as 16-bit true color. So I upped the colors to 16-bit and restarted as prompted. The truth, though, is that the 701C (active matrix) display doesn't look a whole lot different to me than when it was at 256k. When I called IBM Tech Support, I was told the hardware limitations on the 701C are 640x480 and 256 colors, and that's the best I'd get no matter what the display settings said. Some of you have suggested I'd a different driver to support the higher colors, but IBM dumped on that notion. (Incidentally, I'm not concerned with what the TP might support on an external monitor). Any comments? Thanks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 2 23:10:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA112599422; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:10:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05051; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:05:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:05:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04911; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:05:02 -0400 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04885; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:04:49 -0400 Received: from unkle.uplanet.com (host-166-202.uplanet.com [204.163.166.202]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA23020; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970702195016.008f6100@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 20:04:37 -0700 To: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) From: Jesse Montrose Subject: Re: Computer cases (was: Reliability of TP 560?) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sounds good, I didn't know there was a 560-sized wetsuit. Can you post contact information? I'd like to get hold of one. At 10:54 AM 6/20/97 HST, David Ross wrote: >Not so hard - I just bought one for my TP560. I used one for a year >with my 701, and it provided lots of protection (even for the occasional >short drop) - the metal plate over the screen helps, I think. (BTW, I >still have my 701-sized wetsuit, but not the 701, so I'm willing to sell >the case, cheap!) > >Zing Designs also makes a line of neoprene cases, and sells direct. >(For a while they had a handle-less version of this, big enough for a >701, on their website for a really low clearance price.) > >- David > > _____________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.spine.com After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 01:53:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA136219217; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:53:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10676; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:52:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:51:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10603; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:51:42 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10593; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:51:30 -0400 Received: from TP560.usc.edu (comserv-f-70.usc.edu [128.125.223.142]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id WAA28350; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970702214347.0068f59c@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 22:51:33 -0700 To: Peter Lewis From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: video questions redux Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 08:04 PM 7/2/97 -0700, Peter Lewis wrote: >So I upped the colors to 16-bit and restarted as prompted. > >The truth, though, is that the 701C (active matrix) display doesn't look a >whole lot different to me than when it was at 256k. Bring a 24-bit color .jpg file into view--you'll see the difference. Not much difference to see between 64K colors and 16.7 Mil. colors, but between 256 colors and 64K colors, the difference is quite plain to see. But its not the kind of thing you'll see much of with plain old software--icons & the like. Bring up a web page with photos--the JPG kind, not the GIF kind (since GIF is limited to 256 colors)--and you'll see the difference. >When I called IBM Tech Support, I was told the hardware limitations on the >701C are 640x480 and 256 colors, and that's the best I'd get no matter what >the display settings said. Not true. The 701C (active matrix, right?) has a limitation that is in the thousands of colors. Works just fine and there is a visible difference between that and only 256 colors. >Some of you have suggested I'd a different driver to support the higher >colors, but IBM dumped on that notion. If you're using even some older drivers for Win 95, it'll do well into the thousands of colors. Now if you're talking about a 701CS--or dual-scan passive-matrix--yeah, I think you're limited to a lower number of colors. ------- Randal J. Whittle whittle@usc.edu (213) 740-7775 Director, Electronic Commerce Program Marshall School of Business, University of Southern California From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 03:56:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA153026588; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:56:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17167; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:56:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:52:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16768; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:52:23 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16758; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:52:18 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA26503; Wed, 2 Jul 97 21:52:18 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA25439; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:53:17 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199707030753.VAA25439@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Computer cases (was: Reliability of TP 560?) To: jesse@spine.com (Jesse Montrose) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 97 21:53:16 HST Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970702195016.008f6100@mailhost.hooked.net>; from "Jesse Montrose" at Jul 2, 97 8:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Sounds good, I didn't know there was a 560-sized wetsuit. > > Can you post contact information? I'd like to get hold of one. The 560 fits in a Wetsuit 1.0, though a bit loosely; I bought mine from www.isn.com. It *might* fit the Zing Designs Executive (www.zingdesigns.com), though I wasn't able to get a precise answer from them. - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 03:58:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA153216735; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:58:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17808; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:58:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:56:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17313; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:56:37 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17202; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:56:23 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA26511; Wed, 2 Jul 97 21:56:23 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA25453; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:57:22 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199707030757.VAA25453@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: video questions redux To: peterl@citylinq.com (Peter Lewis) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 97 21:57:21 HST Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970702200416.0069a788@mail01.citylinq.net>; from "Peter Lewis" at Jul 2, 97 8:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > The truth, though, is that the 701C (active matrix) display doesn't look a > whole lot different to me than when it was at 256k. One visible difference is that font smoothing works at higher resolutions. I found it a noticeable improvement on my 701C, and miss it on my dual-scan 560. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 04:25:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA156628304; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:25:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20707; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:24:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:24:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20632; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:24:13 -0400 Received: from mail-gw2.pacbell.net (mail-gw2.pacbell.net [206.13.28.53]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20620; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:24:08 -0400 Received: from ibmtp701c (ppp-207-104-65-18.psdn11.pacbell.net [207.104.65.18]) by mail-gw2.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1+antispam) with SMTP id BAA21656 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:25:10 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC874F.F29F17D0.eddy@ucla.edu> From: Eddy Lin Reply-To: "eddy@ucla.edu" To: ThinkPad List Subject: Suspend Modem (Power Management) for TP701 in NT 4.0 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:24:36 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi everyone, Has anyone had any luck finding a NT 4.0 power management driver for the ThinkPad 701? IBM supports Suspend Mode and some minimal but useful power management for NT 4.0 in the newer model of ThinkPad but none for the 701. You may think that I am crazy running NT on my 701 but the stability and robustness outweighs Windows 95 for my application. The only thing that's missing is a little power management so I can suspend the machine without having to shut it down and go through the long boot process every time. Standby mode just doesn't do it when I am on the move for hours. SystemSoft has a OEM development toolkit (only to laptop OEMs) for doing power management in NT 4.0 but it's for OEMs only and not for sale to the public. If you have any information please post it or send me an email. Thanks. Eddy Lin eddy@ucla.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 08:37:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA181183424; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 08:37:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02821; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 08:36:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 08:35:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02730; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 08:35:42 -0400 Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02696; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 08:35:35 -0400 Received: from ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com (ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.25]) by docws001.shl.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA52896 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:22:34 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC878C.2F0CA3E0@ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com>; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 08:36:21 -0400 Message-Id: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: "jesse@spine.com" , "ross@math.hawaii.edu" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Computer cases (was: Reliability of TP 560?) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 08:33:40 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 51 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu For the 701, www.isn.com has: $28.99 FedEx 2 day: $4.95 22 In Stock As of 09:19AM JUL 02 Subnotebook Wetsuit 3.0 1Pk Black Model Number: 42031 ISN Part Number: 25275 - SUBNOTEBOOK WETSUIT 3.0 BLACK FEATURES: - 10.6 X 7.8 X 1.8 - REINFORCED HANDLES - SCREEN IMPACT GUARD - REMOVABLE SHOULDER STRAP - FAST GRIP DESIGN - STRETCH STORAGE POCKET - PADDED PROTECTION - EASY INPUT/OUTPUT POWER PANEL ACCESS - NEOPRENE CONSTRUCTION BILL OF MATERIALS: SUBNOTEBOOK WETSUIT 3.0 1PK BLACK Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com ---------- From: ross@math.hawaii.edu[SMTP:ross@math.hawaii.edu] Sent: 1997 July 2 - Wednesday 17:53 To: jesse@spine.com Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Computer cases (was: Reliability of TP 560?) > Sounds good, I didn't know there was a 560-sized wetsuit. > > Can you post contact information? I'd like to get hold of one. The 560 fits in a Wetsuit 1.0, though a bit loosely; I bought mine from www.isn.com. It *might* fit the Zing Designs Executive (www.zingdesigns.com), though I wasn't able to get a precise answer from them. - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 12:53:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA216278794; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:53:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19589; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:52:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:50:11 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19392; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:50:09 -0400 Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id MAA07779; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgate31 (mailgate31-hme0.a001.sprintmail.com [205.137.196.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11213; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 10:23:06 -0400 Received: by mailgate31 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA18014; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:22:17 -0700 Received: from sdn-ts-001caconcp01.dialsprint.net(206.133.194.20) by mailfep2-hme1 via smap (KC5.24) id Q_10.1.1.6/Q_1425_1_33bbb596; Thu Jul 3 07:22:14 1997 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970703072119.007602f8@pop.a001.sprintmail.com> X-Sender: geige@pop.a001.sprintmail.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 07:22:00 -0700 To: Peter Lewis , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Dale Chao Subject: Re: video questions redux Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, My comments... Actually, I have a 701CS (dual-scan) and do notice quite a bit of difference between 256-color and 16-bit (64k) on my screen. Since I use a picture of my dog as my wallpaper, the difference is immediately evident when switching color depths. It's true that many (if not most) apps are use 256-color icons, so you may not notice any difference there. However, if you fire up Communicator and switch, you'll see differences in the toolbar. I guess it comes down to how you use your machine, whether it's worth it. Having been alerted by another user on the list, I went to the Chips & Technology site and picked up the latest Win95 driver for 65545. Combining this with the generic Super VGA 1024x768 monitor driver, my monitor is behaving quite nicely. One advantage is that the QuickRes tray applet (or the checkbox in the display settings if you're using OSR2) works properly, displaying the correct choices for display. These are: 640x480 - 256 color 800x600 - 256 color 1024x768 - 256 color 640x480 - 16 bit A couple of observations about those settings: Setting color depth to 256 color allows the machine to do simultaneous display on the screen and an external monitor. This is useful for me because I have a tv tuner hooked up to the monitor so it's easier to watch the boob tube when I'm working and switch to the monitor when I need to see bigger or clearer. 800x600 or 1024x768 does, in fact, work on the 701CS screen. It's just that the whole thing doesn't show up at once. You wind up panning around the screen. I've played with this setting, putting up a Communicator, Eudora and a telnet session and switching between them by panning around the screen instead of using the taskbar. It's kinda fun, actually. The higher resolutions display completely on my external monitor, of course. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Dale Chao Concord, California NEW>> Primary Email: geige@usa.net NEW>> My homepage: hepster.phy.uic.edu/~geige (last revision: 1/2/97) PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 13:22:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA221090524; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:22:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20996; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:18:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:18:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20863; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:18:05 -0400 Received: from suntan.tandem.com (suntan.tandem.com [192.216.221.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20849; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:17:59 -0400 Received: from adm.loc201.tandem.com by suntan.tandem.com (8.6.12/suntan5.970212) id KAA24755; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 10:17:59 -0700 Received: from marmoset (marmoset.loc201.tandem.com) by adm.loc201.tandem.com (4.1/6main.940209) id AA13923; Thu, 3 Jul 97 10:17:58 PDT Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 10:15:13 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC8799.FEB21140@chrisd@loc201.tandem.com> From: Chris DiBona To: "'Jesse Montrose'" , David Ross Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Computer cases (was: Reliability of TP 560?) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 10:15:11 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4025 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Actually for the 701, the wetsuit 2.0 fits great, and doesn't place any strain on the keyboard when open. It fits a little looser, but it's way groovy. People always end up saying "That's a laptop?" On Wednesday, July 02, 1997 8:05 PM, Jesse Montrose [SMTP:jesse@spine.com] wrote: > Sounds good, I didn't know there was a 560-sized wetsuit. > > Can you post contact information? I'd like to get hold of one. > > At 10:54 AM 6/20/97 HST, David Ross wrote: > >Not so hard - I just bought one for my TP560. I used one for a year > >with my 701, and it provided lots of protection (even for the occasional > >short drop) - the metal plate over the screen helps, I think. (BTW, I > >still have my 701-sized wetsuit, but not the 701, so I'm willing to sell > >the case, cheap!) > > > >Zing Designs also makes a line of neoprene cases, and sells direct. > >(For a while they had a handle-less version of this, big enough for a > >701, on their website for a really low clearance price.) > > > >- David > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > jesse montrose http://www.spine.com > After seven years, I was sent home to my family. > Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 14:02:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA229442974; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:02:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23526; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:01:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:00:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23423; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:00:47 -0400 Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23412; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:00:37 -0400 Received: from ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com (ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.25]) by docws001.shl.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA43898 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:47:35 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC87B9.95DCB420@ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com>; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:01:21 -0400 Message-Id: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: Peter Lewis , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" , Dale Chao Subject: RE: video questions redux Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:55:15 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 71 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu One other advantage of 16-bit is that you can use the font smoothing add-on >from MS, w95gray.exe. Haven't tried it on my 701 yet. So if you set the resolution higher, you can do hardware pans, i.e. when the mouse or cursor moves near or off the edge of the screen, the driver shows more of the screen? Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com ---------- From: Dale Chao[SMTP:geige@sprintmail.com] Sent: 1997 July 3 - Thursday 10:22 To: Peter Lewis; THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: video questions redux Hi, My comments... Actually, I have a 701CS (dual-scan) and do notice quite a bit of difference between 256-color and 16-bit (64k) on my screen. Since I use a picture of my dog as my wallpaper, the difference is immediately evident when switching color depths. It's true that many (if not most) apps are use 256-color icons, so you may not notice any difference there. However, if you fire up Communicator and switch, you'll see differences in the toolbar. I guess it comes down to how you use your machine, whether it's worth it. Having been alerted by another user on the list, I went to the Chips & Technology site and picked up the latest Win95 driver for 65545. Combining this with the generic Super VGA 1024x768 monitor driver, my monitor is behaving quite nicely. One advantage is that the QuickRes tray applet (or the checkbox in the display settings if you're using OSR2) works properly, displaying the correct choices for display. These are: 640x480 - 256 color 800x600 - 256 color 1024x768 - 256 color 640x480 - 16 bit A couple of observations about those settings: Setting color depth to 256 color allows the machine to do simultaneous display on the screen and an external monitor. This is useful for me because I have a tv tuner hooked up to the monitor so it's easier to watch the boob tube when I'm working and switch to the monitor when I need to see bigger or clearer. 800x600 or 1024x768 does, in fact, work on the 701CS screen. It's just that the whole thing doesn't show up at once. You wind up panning around the screen. I've played with this setting, putting up a Communicator, Eudora and a telnet session and switching between them by panning around the screen instead of using the taskbar. It's kinda fun, actually. The higher resolutions display completely on my external monitor, of course. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Dale Chao Concord, California NEW>> Primary Email: geige@usa.net NEW>> My homepage: hepster.phy.uic.edu/~geige (last revision: 1/2/97) PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 14:07:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA230673228; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:07:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23899; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:06:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:05:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23815; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:05:45 -0400 Received: from smtp1.worldnow.com ([208.142.208.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23796; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:05:39 -0400 Received: from [208.154.130.11] by smtp1.worldnow.com (SMTPD32-3.04) id AB041455045C; Thu, 03 Jul 1997 12:10:12 -0600 Received: from [205.218.33.49] by mail.sisna.com (SMTPD32-3.04) id A9DF97160214; Thu, 03 Jul 1997 12:05:19 -0600 Message-Id: <33BBEA7C.A3C2C@propilot.com> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 12:07:58 -0600 From: Don Rich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "TROTTIER, Tom" Cc: Peter Lewis , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" , Dale Chao Subject: Re: video questions redux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu TROTTIER, Tom wrote: > One other advantage of 16-bit is that you can use the font smoothing > add-on > from MS, w95gray.exe. Haven't tried it on my 701 yet. > > So if you set the resolution higher, you can do hardware pans, i.e. > when > the mouse or cursor moves near or off the edge of the screen, the > driver > shows more of the screen? > > Ciao, Tom > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect > SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre > 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada > +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com > > ---------- > From: Dale Chao[SMTP:geige@sprintmail.com] > Sent: 1997 July 3 - Thursday 10:22 > To: Peter Lewis; THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: video questions redux > > Hi, > > My comments... > > Actually, I have a 701CS (dual-scan) and do notice quite a bit of > difference between 256-color and 16-bit (64k) on my screen. Since I > use a > picture of my dog as my wallpaper, the difference is immediately > evident > when switching color depths. It's true that many (if not most) apps > are > use > 256-color icons, so you may not notice any difference there. However, > if > you fire up Communicator and switch, you'll see differences in the > toolbar. > I guess it comes down to how you use your machine, whether it's worth > it. > > Having been alerted by another user on the list, I went to the Chips & > > Technology site and picked up the latest Win95 driver for 65545. > Combining > this with the generic Super VGA 1024x768 monitor driver, my monitor is > > behaving quite nicely. One advantage is that the QuickRes tray applet > (or > the checkbox in the display settings if you're using OSR2) works > properly, > displaying the correct choices for display. These are: > > 640x480 - 256 color > 800x600 - 256 color > 1024x768 - 256 color > 640x480 - 16 bit > > A couple of observations about those settings: > > Setting color depth to 256 color allows the machine to do simultaneous > > display on the screen and an external monitor. This is useful for me > because I have a tv tuner hooked up to the monitor so it's easier to > watch > the boob tube when I'm working and switch to the monitor when I need > to > see > bigger or clearer. > > 800x600 or 1024x768 does, in fact, work on the 701CS screen. It's just > > that > the whole thing doesn't show up at once. You wind up panning around > the > screen. I've played with this setting, putting up a Communicator, > Eudora > and a telnet session and switching between them by panning around the > screen instead of using the taskbar. It's kinda fun, actually. The > higher > resolutions display completely on my external monitor, of course. > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > Dale Chao > Concord, California > NEW>> Primary Email: geige@usa.net > NEW>> My homepage: hepster.phy.uic.edu/~geige (last revision: 1/2/97) > > PGP key available > ----------------- > ----------------------------------------------------- Hi What is the url for Chips and Tech for drivers please.Thanks Don From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 15:14:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA242637275; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:14:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28468; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:13:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:12:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28238; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:12:26 -0400 Received: from mailgate31 (mailgate31-hme0.a001.sprintmail.com [205.137.196.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28190; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:12:15 -0400 Received: by mailgate31 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA13209; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:10:42 -0700 Received: from sdn-ts-001caconcp13.dialsprint.net(206.133.194.32) by mailfep3-hme1 via smap (KC5.24) id Q_10.1.1.8/Q_1194_1_33bbf8d8; Thu Jul 3 12:09:12 1997 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970703115500.007614dc@pop.a001.sprintmail.com> X-Sender: geige@pop.a001.sprintmail.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 12:09:00 -0700 To: "TROTTIER, Tom" From: Dale Chao Subject: RE: video questions redux Cc: Peter Lewis , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:55 PM 7/3/97 -0400, you wrote: >One other advantage of 16-bit is that you can use the font smoothing add-on >from MS, w95gray.exe. Haven't tried it on my 701 yet. > Is that different from the font smoothing that comes with the Plus Pack? The "gray" in the name makes me wonder, is there a way to force a color monitor to display greyscale instead? >So if you set the resolution higher, you can do hardware pans, i.e. when >the mouse or cursor moves near or off the edge of the screen, the driver >shows more of the screen? > Exactly. (I've been finding out much more than I thought I wanted to trying to narrow down a display problem with a desktop machine. I've been swapping monitors and drivers a lot.) >Ciao, Tom >_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect >SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre >50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada >+1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com > >---------- >From: Dale Chao[SMTP:geige@sprintmail.com] >Sent: 1997 July 3 - Thursday 10:22 >To: Peter Lewis; THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Re: video questions redux > >Hi, > >My comments... > >Actually, I have a 701CS (dual-scan) and do notice quite a bit of >difference between 256-color and 16-bit (64k) on my screen. Since I use a >picture of my dog as my wallpaper, the difference is immediately evident >when switching color depths. It's true that many (if not most) apps are >use >256-color icons, so you may not notice any difference there. However, if >you fire up Communicator and switch, you'll see differences in the >toolbar. >I guess it comes down to how you use your machine, whether it's worth it. > >Having been alerted by another user on the list, I went to the Chips & >Technology site and picked up the latest Win95 driver for 65545. Combining >this with the generic Super VGA 1024x768 monitor driver, my monitor is >behaving quite nicely. One advantage is that the QuickRes tray applet (or >the checkbox in the display settings if you're using OSR2) works properly, >displaying the correct choices for display. These are: > > 640x480 - 256 color > 800x600 - 256 color > 1024x768 - 256 color > 640x480 - 16 bit > >A couple of observations about those settings: > >Setting color depth to 256 color allows the machine to do simultaneous >display on the screen and an external monitor. This is useful for me >because I have a tv tuner hooked up to the monitor so it's easier to watch >the boob tube when I'm working and switch to the monitor when I need to >see >bigger or clearer. > >800x600 or 1024x768 does, in fact, work on the 701CS screen. It's just >that >the whole thing doesn't show up at once. You wind up panning around the >screen. I've played with this setting, putting up a Communicator, Eudora >and a telnet session and switching between them by panning around the >screen instead of using the taskbar. It's kinda fun, actually. The higher >resolutions display completely on my external monitor, of course. >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Dale Chao >Concord, California >NEW>> Primary Email: geige@usa.net >NEW>> My homepage: hepster.phy.uic.edu/~geige (last revision: 1/2/97) > >PGP key available >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Dale Chao Concord, California NEW>> Primary Email: geige@usa.net NEW>> My homepage: hepster.phy.uic.edu/~geige (last revision: 1/2/97) PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 15:14:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA242677282; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:14:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28466; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:13:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:12:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28171; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:12:09 -0400 Received: from mailgate31 (mailgate31-hme0.a001.sprintmail.com [205.137.196.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28154; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:11:59 -0400 Received: by mailgate31 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA13208; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:10:42 -0700 Received: from sdn-ts-001caconcp13.dialsprint.net(206.133.194.32) by mailfep3-hme1 via smap (KC5.24) id Q_10.1.1.8/Q_1194_3_33bbf8db; Thu Jul 3 12:09:15 1997 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970703120348.00763fd0@pop.a001.sprintmail.com> X-Sender: geige@pop.a001.sprintmail.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 12:09:03 -0700 To: Don Rich From: Dale Chao Subject: Re: video questions redux Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >> Having been alerted by another user on the list, I went to the Chips & >> >> Technology site and picked up the latest Win95 driver for 65545. >> Combining >> this with the generic Super VGA 1024x768 monitor driver, my monitor is >> >> behaving quite nicely. One advantage is that the QuickRes tray applet >> (or >> the checkbox in the display settings if you're using OSR2) works >> properly, >> displaying the correct choices for display. These are: >> >Hi What is the url for Chips and Tech for drivers please.Thanks Don > The home page is at http://www.chips.com You can locate the driver in ftp://ftp.chips.com/pub/drivers/win95141.zip ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Dale Chao Concord, California NEW>> Primary Email: geige@usa.net NEW>> My homepage: hepster.phy.uic.edu/~geige (last revision: 1/2/97) PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 15:39:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA246578792; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:39:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00310; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:39:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:38:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00213; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:38:46 -0400 Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00186; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:38:38 -0400 Received: from ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com (ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.25]) by docws001.shl.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA57666 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:25:37 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC87C7.44C564C0@ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com>; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:39:18 -0400 Message-Id: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: Dale Chao Cc: Peter Lewis , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: video questions redux Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:32:45 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 114 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It's the same as in the Plus pack; in fact it puts a "Plus" tab on the Display Properties. As for gray scale, it's surprising that the Settings stops at 16 colours, instead of having a 64-step gray scale option. Did you use the C&A driver or the generic SVGA driver for the panning? By the way, the latest update is the win95141 driver, as of Mar 25/97, which supports direct-x 3.0 0(Direct3D?) Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com ---------- From: Dale Chao[SMTP:geige@sprintmail.com] Sent: 1997 July 3 - Thursday 15:09 To: TROTTIER, Tom Cc: Peter Lewis; THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: video questions redux At 01:55 PM 7/3/97 -0400, you wrote: >One other advantage of 16-bit is that you can use the font smoothing add-on >from MS, w95gray.exe. Haven't tried it on my 701 yet. > Is that different from the font smoothing that comes with the Plus Pack? The "gray" in the name makes me wonder, is there a way to force a color monitor to display greyscale instead? >So if you set the resolution higher, you can do hardware pans, i.e. when >the mouse or cursor moves near or off the edge of the screen, the driver >shows more of the screen? > Exactly. (I've been finding out much more than I thought I wanted to trying to narrow down a display problem with a desktop machine. I've been swapping monitors and drivers a lot.) >Ciao, Tom >_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect >SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre >50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada >+1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com > >---------- >From: Dale Chao[SMTP:geige@sprintmail.com] >Sent: 1997 July 3 - Thursday 10:22 >To: Peter Lewis; THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Re: video questions redux > >Hi, > >My comments... > >Actually, I have a 701CS (dual-scan) and do notice quite a bit of >difference between 256-color and 16-bit (64k) on my screen. Since I use a >picture of my dog as my wallpaper, the difference is immediately evident >when switching color depths. It's true that many (if not most) apps are >use >256-color icons, so you may not notice any difference there. However, if >you fire up Communicator and switch, you'll see differences in the >toolbar. >I guess it comes down to how you use your machine, whether it's worth it. > >Having been alerted by another user on the list, I went to the Chips & >Technology site and picked up the latest Win95 driver for 65545. Combining >this with the generic Super VGA 1024x768 monitor driver, my monitor is >behaving quite nicely. One advantage is that the QuickRes tray applet (or >the checkbox in the display settings if you're using OSR2) works properly, >displaying the correct choices for display. These are: > > 640x480 - 256 color > 800x600 - 256 color > 1024x768 - 256 color > 640x480 - 16 bit > >A couple of observations about those settings: > >Setting color depth to 256 color allows the machine to do simultaneous >display on the screen and an external monitor. This is useful for me >because I have a tv tuner hooked up to the monitor so it's easier to watch >the boob tube when I'm working and switch to the monitor when I need to >see >bigger or clearer. > >800x600 or 1024x768 does, in fact, work on the 701CS screen. It's just >that >the whole thing doesn't show up at once. You wind up panning around the >screen. I've played with this setting, putting up a Communicator, Eudora >and a telnet session and switching between them by panning around the >screen instead of using the taskbar. It's kinda fun, actually. The higher >resolutions display completely on my external monitor, of course. >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Dale Chao >Concord, California >NEW>> Primary Email: geige@usa.net >NEW>> My homepage: hepster.phy.uic.edu/~geige (last revision: 1/2/97) > >PGP key available >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Dale Chao Concord, California NEW>> Primary Email: geige@usa.net NEW>> My homepage: hepster.phy.uic.edu/~geige (last revision: 1/2/97) PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 16:02:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA250500177; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:02:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02162; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:01:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:01:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02040; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:01:01 -0400 Received: from mailgate22 (mailgate22-hme0.a001.sprintmail.com [205.137.196.54]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02018; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:00:47 -0400 Received: by mailgate22 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA24855; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:00:16 -0700 Received: from sdn-ts-001caconcp11.dialsprint.net(206.133.194.30) by mailfep1-hme1 via smap (KC5.24) id Q_10.1.1.4/Q_12174_1_33bc046c; Thu Jul 3 12:58:36 1997 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970703125745.00756770@pop.slip.net> X-Sender: geige@pop.slip.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 12:58:17 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Dale Chao Subject: Another video observation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu While we're on the subject of video, has anybody noticed this oddity? On a 701CS, Win95, running a DOS session in a window will screw up the screen if the color depth is 16-bit, but not at 256 colors. Just wondering if anybody has DOS window settings that will work in 16-bit without going to a full screen session. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Dale Chao Concord, California Primary Email: geige@usa.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 16:22:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA254351358; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:22:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03808; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:22:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:21:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03673; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:21:02 -0400 Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03659; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:20:57 -0400 Received: from ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com (ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.25]) by docws001.shl.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA29832 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:07:53 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC87CD.32A3EAE0@ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com>; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:21:44 -0400 Message-Id: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" , Dale Chao Subject: RE: Another video observation Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:19:19 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 28 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com ---------- From: Dale Chao[SMTP:geige@usa.net] Sent: 1997 July 3 - Thursday 15:58 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Another video observation While we're on the subject of video, has anybody noticed this oddity? On a 701CS, Win95, running a DOS session in a window will screw up the screen if the color depth is 16-bit, but not at 256 colors. Just wondering if anybody has DOS window settings that will work in 16-bit without going to a full screen session. Try going to the bios setup & back. I believe it's only the setup of the window that screws it up. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Dale Chao Concord, California Primary Email: geige@usa.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 16:42:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA257312520; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:42:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04970; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:41:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:40:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04871; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:40:46 -0400 Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04859; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:40:37 -0400 Received: from ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com (ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.25]) by docws001.shl.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA58088 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:27:31 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC87CF.F091AC70@ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com>; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:41:22 -0400 Message-Id: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: A canadian laptop upgrade place Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:35:00 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 10 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Checkout http://www.computerpark.com/page27.HTML for their Thinkpad compatibility chart or phone 800-846-6800 (6800, now that was one nice microprocessor...) Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 18:29:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA274288942; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:29:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11692; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:28:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:27:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11597; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:27:29 -0400 Received: from callisto.si.usherb.ca (callisto.si.USherb.ca [132.210.10.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11587; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:27:24 -0400 Received: from 17-0025.Residence.usherb.ca by callisto.si.usherb.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA45320; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:22:45 -0400 Received: by 17-0025.Residence.usherb.ca with Microsoft Mail id <01BC87DE.D4389A20@17-0025.Residence.usherb.ca>; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:27:57 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC87DE.D4389A20@17-0025.Residence.usherb.ca> From: Fabian Rodriguez To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: correction: A canadian laptop upgrade place Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:27:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The actual URL is http://www.computerpark.com/page27.html ---------- From: TROTTIER, Tom[SMTP:ttrottier@shl.com] Sent: 3 juillet 1997 15:35 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: A canadian laptop upgrade place Checkout http://www.computerpark.com/page27.HTML for their Thinkpad compatibility chart or phone 800-846-6800 (6800, now that was one nice microprocessor...) Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 21:22:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA001649328; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:22:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19417; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:20:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:17:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19230; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:17:52 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19219; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:17:48 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA28878; Thu, 3 Jul 97 15:17:47 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA25536; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:18:44 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199707040118.PAA25536@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: RE: Computer cases (was: Reliability of TP 560?) To: ttrottier@shl.com (TROTTIER, Tom) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 97 15:18:43 HST Cc: jesse@spine.com, "ross@math.hawaii.edu"@math.hawaii.edu, ross@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "TROTTIER, Tom" at Jul 3, 97 8:33 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Subnotebook Wetsuit 3.0 1Pk Black The Wetsuit 2.0 fits the 701 just about right; I would think the 3.0 would be too small, especially if you want to carry the disk drive (or even some disks!) some time. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 21:27:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA002299643; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:27:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19776; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:25:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:24:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19667; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:24:22 -0400 Received: from hq72.sd72.org (root@[207.194.101.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19656; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:24:16 -0400 Received: from prez.crcn.net (st36.net129.cn.camriv.bc.ca [206.12.129.36]) by hq72.sd72.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA00121 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:22:44 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970703182428.0081e240@sd72.org> X-Sender: pat@sd72.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 b2 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 18:24:28 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Pat Presidente Subject: 755 CDV DX4-100 --> DX5-133 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone gone this root with the DX4-100? I'm wondering what sort of performance hit I'd be gaining and whether or not it is worth the $400 Can price tag. Thanks Pat ============================================================================ O _ | Pat Presidente \ District Technology Resource Teacher| |_-/_| | prez@sd72.org \ Campbell River School District 72 | | | | Pat.Presidente@sd72.bc.ca \ 425 Pinecrest Road | |======| Ph (250) 830-2353 Fx 830-2329 \ Campbell River, B.C. V9W 3P2 | ===========================================================================| | "Well you know I could have me a million more friends | | And all I'd have to lose is my point of view" -John Prine | ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 22:14:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA011932480; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 22:14:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22261; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 22:12:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 22:11:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21886; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 22:11:00 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21876; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 22:10:55 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA29042; Thu, 3 Jul 97 16:10:56 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA25645; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:11:53 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199707040211.QAA25645@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: 755 CDV DX4-100 --> DX5-133 To: pat.presidente@access.crcn.net (Pat Presidente) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 97 16:11:50 HST Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19970703182428.0081e240@sd72.org>; from "Pat Presidente" at Jul 3, 97 6:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Has anyone gone this root with the DX4-100? I'm wondering what sort of > performance hit I'd be gaining and whether or not it is worth the $400 Can > price tag. Have a look at www.math.hawaii.edu/~ross/cpu (URL *is* case-sensitive). - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 3 23:42:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA035227724; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 23:42:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27844; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 23:41:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 23:39:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27627; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 23:39:42 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27601; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 23:39:36 -0400 Received: from ssh (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08763 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:47:59 -0600 Message-Id: <33BC70D8.C396DBBB@wwsi.com> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 21:41:12 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad mailing list Subject: 765D X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, mine is finally in at the distributor, so I should be receiving it in the middle of next week. I'll let ya'll know! -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 4 00:48:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA054071735; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:48:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00698; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:48:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:46:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00583; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:46:28 -0400 Received: from shell.izap.com (root@shell.izap.com [207.211.45.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00573; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:46:21 -0400 Received: from NO-IDENT-SERVICE@fr27.izap.com (port 65285 [207.211.45.127]) by shell.izap.com with SMTP id <227968-17926>; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:46:14 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970703214306.006a945c@izap.com> X-Sender: jg@izap.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 21:43:06 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: josh Subject: 701CS VIDEO PROBLEM! w/ WIN95 & DOS window. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Have WIN95 in my Thinkpad 701CS, have set the Video up for 16BIT (64K). It looks pretty good, BUT! Whenever I activate the DOS Window, the Screen goes bannanas & is all blurred & 'double exposed like', very weird... I saw someone mentioning hitting the Fn+F1/BIOS Config buttons, well it does clear momentarily but as you do more in the DOS window it keeps fuzzing up again & again, then as I do more stuff in the DOS window, my diplay completely 'blanks out' to a black screen & the intensity/brightness seems to be peaked, WIN 95 is completely locked up & I have to do a hard reboot viia the power switch, nothing else will get me out of the 'lock-up', not even Fn+F1... What's going on? Does the fact I only have 8MB of RAM play role? Comments/help??? jg@izap.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 4 00:57:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA056902265; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:57:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01070; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:57:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:55:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00952; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:55:51 -0400 Received: from shell.izap.com (root@shell.izap.com [207.211.45.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00942; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:55:45 -0400 Received: from NO-IDENT-SERVICE@fr27.izap.com (port 4870 [207.211.45.127]) by shell.izap.com with SMTP id <227968-17928>; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:55:44 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970703215244.006ac764@izap.com> X-Sender: jg@izap.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 21:52:44 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: josh Subject: TP701CS-WHICH CHIPS&TECH DRIVER? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have been to the CHIPS & TECHNOLOGIES WWW site... I am not sure which driver I am supposed to D.load, dunno which one is the 'most recent' upgrade? Which is the best one? thanks.. jg@izap.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 4 10:18:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA207795928; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 10:18:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25906; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 10:18:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Jul 1997 10:16:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25790; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 10:16:23 -0400 Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25777; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 10:16:17 -0400 Received: from ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com (ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.25]) by docws001.shl.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA59162 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 09:03:11 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC8863.6DA263B0@ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com>; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 10:17:08 -0400 Message-Id: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Computer cases Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 10:10:18 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 27 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Actually, ZingDesigns has a 701-size handle-less wetsuit for 14.95 on sail at their websight. I just ordered one to go inside my briefcase. Then I will have 4 padded computer cases, all of different sizes... Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com ---------- From: ross@math.hawaii.edu[SMTP:ross@math.hawaii.edu] Sent: 1997 July 3 - Thursday 11:19 To: ttrottier@shl.com Cc: jesse@spine.com; "ross@math.hawaii.edu"@math.hawaii.edu; ross@math.hawaii.edu; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Computer cases (was: Reliability of TP 560?) > Subnotebook Wetsuit 3.0 1Pk Black The Wetsuit 2.0 fits the 701 just about right; I would think the 3.0 would be too small, especially if you want to carry the disk drive (or even some disks!) some time. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 4 15:42:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA295615370; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 15:42:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04594; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 15:42:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Jul 1997 15:41:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04481; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 15:41:20 -0400 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04421; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 15:41:04 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA05694 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 14:40:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199707041940.OAA05694@dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com> Received: from mol-il1-11.ix.netcom.com(205.184.148.43) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma005478; Fri Jul 4 14:39:49 1997 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "John Carmody" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 14:36:16 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: 760ED has no-audio on WWW Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a one year old 760ED (Machine Type 9546-U3A), use Windows 95, and have updated the MWave software and BIOS. I get great audio from RealAudio when using the WWW and MWave modem, but have never received audio that some have imbedded in their web pages. Now I want to use MS NetMeeting 2.0 and would like to get some audio. Does anyone know the troubleshooting sequence for this? Thanks very much! -- John Carmody E-mail: oam@ix.netcom.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jul 6 07:11:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA297257475; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 07:11:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA22444; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 07:10:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 6 Jul 1997 07:06:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA22278; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 07:06:14 -0400 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA22267; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 07:06:09 -0400 Received: from caiman (slip202-135-73-96.sy.au.ibm.net [202.135.73.96]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA128902 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 11:06:15 GMT Message-Id: <199707061106.LAA128902@out1.ibm.net> From: "Adam Britton" To: Subject: As requested, an introduction Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 15:21:16 +0930 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Dear Thinkpad users, Greetings. I've just subscribed, and have been asked in the introductory email to introduce myself. OK, I have a Thinkpad 760ED which was purchased in the UK, but which I'm now using out here in Darwin, Australia. I spent a lot of time checking up different laptops before I left the UK, and narrowed the choice down to a Toshiba Tecra and my Thinkpad. After asking a number of people, and communicating myself with both IBM and Toshiba, there was no contest! It's a 130MHz with 32Mb RAM, 2.1Gb disk, running Windows 95. So far, I'm extremely pleased with it (since the end of February). I use it for a variety of things, including word processing, statistical analysis, internet access and web design, image scanning and manipulation, sound acquisition and analysis, emulation, and even the odd game. I've got a TDK DF2814 V.34 PCMCIA modem installed, which appears to work pretty well - although I get some problems with hibernation and suspend mode when the card is present. I've also got an Adaptec APA1460 SCSI PCMCIA card which I use to run my Microtek scanner from. Problems? I'm afraid to say I have. For a start, I installed Direct X 3.0 a while back, and while it seems to work fine, ever since I did so all sounds played through MWave produce a 'click' prior to playback. It's most annoying. Someone in comp.sys.laptops suggested messing with the buffer size in the system.ini file, but that hasn't helped. Other problems are more serious, but harder to pin down, such as occasional crashing (mmtask appears to be responsible for this - [not responding]). The most recent problem which is highly annoying is that since I tried to install the adaptec drivers for the SCSI card, something now crashes every time the computer tries to resume following a suspend. Eventually, I had to use Win95 drivers rather than the adaptec ones (which were supposed to be Win95 compatible, AND tested on a Thinkpad) to get the card to work. Any ideas why, every time I leave suspend mode, I get a blue screen with the words: "A fatal exception 0E has occurred at 0028:C10094AB in VXD APIX(01) + 000008A3" Ugh! The only clue is that when I next try and use the modem or the scanner, I'm told they're either "in use" (modem) or "not connected" (scanner) and only a windows reboot will fix things. :( I'd like to get my Thinkpad working as normal again, because when it works fine it's great. It's just very annoying to remember, juuuust as it's going into suspend mode, that when I open the screen again it's going to crash messily. I can still retrieve the work I was doing, but it blanks the screen so I have to work invisibly until an application causes a screen redraw. Any help whatsoever would be appreciated. Adam -- Dr. Adam Britton | crocodilian@ibm.net Crocodile Research | Wildlife Management Intl. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jul 6 13:17:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA093739468; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:17:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02055; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:17:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:14:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01893; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:14:12 -0400 Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01883; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:14:08 -0400 Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12292; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:14:39 -0400 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:14:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: Adam Britton Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: As requested, an introduction In-Reply-To: <199707061106.LAA128902@out1.ibm.net> Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Try getting the latest Mwave drivers. The current version is 2.24, I suspect that what you have is the first edition of the 28.8 mwave modem drivers which were quite buggy. On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Adam Britton wrote: > Dear Thinkpad users, > > Greetings. I've just subscribed, and have been asked in the introductory > email to introduce myself. OK, I have a Thinkpad 760ED which was purchased > in the UK, but which I'm now using out here in Darwin, Australia. I spent a > lot of time checking up different laptops before I left the UK, and > narrowed the choice down to a Toshiba Tecra and my Thinkpad. After asking a > number of people, and communicating myself with both IBM and Toshiba, there > was no contest! > > It's a 130MHz with 32Mb RAM, 2.1Gb disk, running Windows 95. So far, I'm > extremely > pleased with it (since the end of February). I use it for a variety of > things, including word processing, statistical analysis, internet access > and web design, image scanning and manipulation, sound acquisition and > analysis, emulation, and even the odd game. I've got a TDK DF2814 V.34 > PCMCIA modem installed, which appears to work pretty well - although I get > some problems with hibernation and suspend mode when the card is present. > I've also got an Adaptec APA1460 SCSI PCMCIA card which I use to run my > Microtek scanner from. > > Problems? I'm afraid to say I have. For a start, I installed Direct X 3.0 a > while back, and while it seems to work fine, ever since I did so all sounds > played through MWave produce a 'click' prior to playback. It's most > annoying. Someone in comp.sys.laptops suggested messing with the buffer > size in the system.ini file, but that hasn't helped. Other problems are > more serious, but harder to pin down, such as occasional crashing (mmtask > appears to be responsible for this - [not responding]). The most recent > problem which is highly annoying is that since I tried to install the > adaptec drivers for the SCSI card, something now crashes every time the > computer tries to resume following a suspend. Eventually, I had to use > Win95 drivers rather than the adaptec ones (which were supposed to be Win95 > compatible, AND tested on a Thinkpad) to get the card to work. Any ideas > why, every time I leave suspend mode, I get a blue screen with the words: > "A fatal exception 0E has occurred at 0028:C10094AB in VXD APIX(01) + > 000008A3" > > Ugh! The only clue is that when I next try and use the modem or the > scanner, I'm told they're either "in use" (modem) or "not connected" > (scanner) and only a windows reboot will fix things. :( > > I'd like to get my Thinkpad working as normal again, because when it works > fine it's great. It's just very annoying to remember, juuuust as it's going > into suspend mode, that when I open the screen again it's going to crash > messily. I can still retrieve the work I was doing, but it blanks the > screen so I have to work invisibly until an application causes a screen > redraw. > > Any help whatsoever would be appreciated. > > Adam > > -- > Dr. Adam Britton | crocodilian@ibm.net > Crocodile Research | Wildlife Management Intl. > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jul 6 13:56:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA104041772; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:56:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03132; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:56:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:54:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03001; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:54:15 -0400 Received: from mailgate21 (mailgate21-hme0.a001.sprintmail.com [205.137.196.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02991; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:54:10 -0400 Received: by mailgate21 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA03415; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 10:53:32 -0700 Received: from sdn-ts-001caconcp07.dialsprint.net(206.133.194.26) by mailfep3-hme1 via smap (KC5.24) id Q_10.1.1.8/Q_13748_1_33bfdb02; Sun Jul 6 10:50:58 1997 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970706104939.0075ae50@pop.slip.net> X-Sender: geige@pop.slip.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 10:50:22 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Dale Chao Subject: 701CS/Win95 WAV problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I don't quite have a clear on how to identify this problem, but here's what I've been noticing: * some WAV files won't play. I get some sort of message saying there's a device missing * some AVI files won't play. Also some sort of device missing. * trying to install Focal Point (the 32-bit successor to FaxWorks)I can't get the message files to play. * I am able to record and play using the Sound Recorder. * When I try to convert sound files the Win95 applets, it doesn't work. Are there limitations to how the 701 handles sound? Looking in the device manager, ESS688 Sound Driver shows up. Windows installed a bunch of CODECS, but I don't know anything about them. Thanks. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Dale Chao Concord, California Primary Email: geige@usa.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jul 6 15:57:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA137159061; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 15:57:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10387; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 15:57:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 6 Jul 1997 15:54:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10148; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 15:54:56 -0400 Received: from ganymede.dnai.com (ganymede.dnai.com [207.33.147.80]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10138; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 15:54:52 -0400 Received: from sfoca-mweiden.pmi (dnai-207-33-180-229.dialup.dnai.com [207.33.180.229]) by ganymede.dnai.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA22983 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 12:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970706120327.006ba514@disquiet.com> X-Sender: marc@disquiet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 12:03:27 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Marc Weidenbaum Subject: 701c, tranxit, oops, jhelp In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The 701c harddrive being what it is -- small-ish -- I was trying to get rid of software I never use. Was I mistaken to include Tranxit in this category? I removed it, and now when I turn on my computer I am warned that the system.ini file is trying to access the file. I can still use my computer, but I'd like to either get rid of this error message (assuming it's not a big deal) or reinstall the software (if it is a problem). Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks. -mrc --- Marc Weidenbaum http://www.disquiet.com http://www.citysearch7.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jul 6 21:02:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA220147339; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 21:02:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28306; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 21:02:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 6 Jul 1997 21:00:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28111; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 21:00:36 -0400 Received: from unexexch.unex.ucla.edu (exchange.unex.ucla.edu [128.97.115.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28101; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 21:00:33 -0400 Message-Id: <199707070100.VAA28101@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by exchange.unex.ucla.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id <3FJZJNVM>; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 17:59:37 -0700 From: "Swartz, Charles" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: 560 display slowdown Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 17:58:16 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just installed Office 97 in my 560 and immediately noticed a latency delay in the display. This is true while typing text in the ordinary way - a slight lag. It's very apparent during a dial-up networking session, where 95 displays a dialog box upon connection with the "minutes and seconds connected". The seconds do not appear regularly, but every few digits lag. The 560 has 40 MB of RAM and is otherwise unexceptionable. Any ideas to fine-tune? It's really annoying.... TIA Charles Swartz From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jul 6 22:03:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA235651039; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 22:03:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00937; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 22:03:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 6 Jul 1997 22:02:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00796; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 22:02:58 -0400 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@morgana.punk.net [204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00767; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 22:02:50 -0400 Received: from localhost (sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA22852; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 19:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 19:03:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: "Swartz, Charles" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: 560 display slowdown In-Reply-To: <199707070100.VAA28101@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Swartz, Charles wrote: > I just installed Office 97 in my 560 and immediately noticed a latency > delay in the display. This is true while typing text in the ordinary > way - a slight lag. It's very apparent during a dial-up networking > session, where 95 displays a dialog box upon connection with the > "minutes and seconds connected". The seconds do not appear regularly, > but every few digits lag. > > The 560 has 40 MB of RAM and is otherwise unexceptionable. > > Any ideas to fine-tune? It's really annoying.... If it is any consolation Word 97 runs like a dog on my TP560-120/40MB system too. It is also slow on my P100/64MB desktop. I think the basic problem is that Microsoft couldn't code an eficient app if their lives depended on it. Steve From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 00:59:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA281971579; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:59:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06471; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:58:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:58:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06359; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:58:05 -0400 Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06345; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:58:00 -0400 Received: from pool066-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool066-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.7.216]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA11257; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 21:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707070457.VAA11257@sweden.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Marc Weidenbaum" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 06 Jul 97 21:59:18 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701c, tranxit, oops, jhelp Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 06 Jul 1997 12:03:27 -0700, Marc Weidenbaum wrote: >The 701c harddrive being what it is -- small-ish -- I was trying to get rid >of software I never use. > >Was I mistaken to include Tranxit in this category? > >I removed it, and now when I turn on my computer I am warned that the >system.ini file is trying to access the file. > >I can still use my computer, but I'd like to either get rid of this error >message (assuming it's not a big deal) or reinstall the software (if it is >a problem). > >Any advice would be appreciated. > >Thanks. > >-mrc > >--- >Marc Weidenbaum > http://www.disquiet.com > http://www.citysearch7.com > No problem. This evening I had the same problem with Windows NT, while trying to put the Windows 3.x version on there, and connect to the OS/2 version on my TP701cs. You error probably says it cannot find "PCOMM.386", right? You can edit SYSTEM.INI, and under the [386Eh] section, you should see: blah, blah, blah blah, blah, blah [386Eh] device=c:\tranxit\pcomm.386 blah, blah, blah blah, blah, blah So you can either take out that line, or put a ; (semicolon) in front, which tells Windows that it's a "remark". Hope that this helps. Regards, Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 02:44:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA011217895; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 02:44:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09109; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 02:44:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 02:43:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09030; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 02:43:46 -0400 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09019; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 02:43:41 -0400 Received: from tom-s-laptop (slip129-37-231-226.co.us.ibm.net [129.37.231.226]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA14634; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:43:39 GMT Message-Id: <199707070643.GAA14634@out1.ibm.net> Reply-To: From: "Tom Franklin" To: "IBM Questions" , "Thinkpad Distribution List" Subject: ESS1688 Full Duplex Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:44:40 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone got full-duplex working on the ESS1688 sound chip used in the Thinkpad 760, TP560, and TP380? I have the latest IBM drivers and it only allows half duplex. I am trying to get MS Netmeeting to allow phone calls over the internet, but half-duplex is painful. I would think modern sound chips would allow full duplex. \\|||// (o) (o) ======.oOO==( )==OOo.======= || || || Thomas D. Franklin || || tom.franklin@usa.net || || || || .oooO Oooo. || =======( )===( )======== \ ( ) / \_) (_/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 02:51:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA012768278; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 02:51:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09355; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 02:50:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 02:50:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09265; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 02:50:29 -0400 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09254; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 02:50:23 -0400 Received: from tom-s-laptop (slip129-37-231-226.co.us.ibm.net [129.37.231.226]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA180138 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:50:23 GMT Message-Id: <199707070650.GAA180138@out1.ibm.net> Reply-To: From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Thinkpad Distribution List" Subject: Re: ESS1688 Full Duplex Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:51:26 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The answer is apparently the ESS1688 is half duplex. See http://www.esstech.com/techsupp/featur_comp.html for details. Tom Franklin wrote in article <01bc8aa1$28cb2160$e2e72581@tom-s-laptop>... > Has anyone got full-duplex working on the ESS1688 sound chip used in the > Thinkpad 760, TP560, and TP380? I have the latest IBM drivers and it only > allows half duplex. > > I am trying to get MS Netmeeting to allow phone calls over the internet, > but half-duplex is painful. I would think modern sound chips would allow > full duplex. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 03:49:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA027871787; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 03:49:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14751; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 03:49:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 03:48:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14652; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 03:48:49 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14642; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 03:48:44 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA05199; Sun, 6 Jul 97 21:48:43 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA26331; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 21:49:42 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199707070749.VAA26331@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: 701c, tranxit, oops, jhelp To: marc@disquiet.com (Marc Weidenbaum) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 97 21:49:41 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970706120327.006ba514@disquiet.com>; from "Marc Weidenbaum" at Jul 6, 97 12:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Was I mistaken to include Tranxit in this category? > > I removed it, and now when I turn on my computer I am warned that the > system.ini file is trying to access the file. Tranxit puts a couple of drivers in this .ini file, including a comm driver (pcom.* or pcomm2.*) and an infrared driver (pumair.*). Tranxit is kind of nice to have around - it comes standard on several laptops, is easy to add to any W3.x or W95 system (just copy the files >from the Ri directory to the new machine and use the included install program), and is pretty fast and easy to use. It has saved my backside on a couple of occasions. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 06:06:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA061739986; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:06:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA26533; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:06:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:04:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA26350; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:04:51 -0400 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA26329; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:04:47 -0400 Received: from caiman (slip202-135-73-155.sy.au.ibm.net [202.135.73.155]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA99012 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:04:46 GMT Message-Id: <199707071004.KAA99012@out1.ibm.net> From: "Adam Britton" To: Subject: The other problem, flickering screen Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:24:19 +0930 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu While I'm on the subject of Thinkpad problems, the other one I'm having right now is to do with the display. It flickers a lot. More correctly, it flickers when the battery level is low. If I use mains and the battery is 100% charged, it's great - no problems. After I've switched to using the battery, it is liable to start flickering occasionally after a while. The lower the battery level is, it seems, the greater the degree of flicker. It's variable, however. Some times I get the odd flicker when I type, other times the whole thing goes nuts during heavy work (e.g. moving the trackpoint a lot, disk / CD activity). Seems like it's not supplying enough power or something. When I reattach the mains, it will still flicker until the charge gets quite high (above 80% or so). Do you think this is a battery problem, a video problem, or what? The other possibility is the amount of heat the laptop generates. It gets frighteningly hot after a while! I wondered whether overheating might be a problem (and simply coincided with those times I was using the battery). The PCMCIA card are almost too hot to handle when I take them out. Is this going to affect their performance? The battery is one component I would expect to be heat intolerant, given its chemical nature. Perhaps I should take the machine to the local service centre here to be checked over (it's still under international warranty), although I use it constantly so I'd rather use that as a last resort. Adam -- Dr. Adam Britton | crocodilian@ibm.net Crocodile Research | Wildlife Management Intl. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 06:06:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA061810000; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:06:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA26529; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:06:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:04:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA26330; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:04:48 -0400 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA26318; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:04:44 -0400 Received: from caiman (slip202-135-73-155.sy.au.ibm.net [202.135.73.155]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA50812 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:04:42 GMT Message-Id: <199707071004.KAA50812@out1.ibm.net> From: "Adam Britton" To: Subject: Re: As requested, an introduction Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:46:05 +0930 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > From: Joshua Hosseinof > Date: Monday, July 07, 1997 02:44 > > Try getting the latest Mwave drivers. The current version is 2.24, I > suspect that what you have is the first edition of the 28.8 mwave modem > drivers which were quite buggy. I have version 2.22 installed, which isn't quite as current. I'll go and download the newer drivers and keep my fingers crossed. Thanks. > From: Stuart F. Biggar > Date: Sunday, July 06, 1997 21:53 > > It may be completely unrelated, but my boss' 760E (P120 with 48 MB of RAM) > used > to consistently crash on resume. Turned out to be a bad 32-MB RAM > addition. If Hmmm, well I hate pulling bits out, but I'll give it a try. I must admit, my TP with 32Mb appears subjectively to perform about as well as my desktop when it had 16Mb. However, Win95 tells me I have 32Mb on board, and I do tend to run about 4 programs at the same time without too many problems. Trouble is, Win95 rarely performs well without huge amounts of RAM anyway it seems. > From: Michael Bernstein > Date: Sunday, July 06, 1997 21:29 > > Secondly, an easy way to get your "invisible" screen back is to do the > following: Thanks for the advice. I tried this, and when I hit ALT+ENTER to shift the MSDOS window into fullscreen mode, nothing happened! I tried again... and again... and eventually hit the "Fullscreen" icon on the window. CRASH! I got the "exception at 0E in VXD APIX(01)" error again. Argh. So, perhaps the problem isn't in the suspend mode, but something deeper than this. Another point is that when I next try and reset Windows, it just sits there for a while before reporting "program not responding" several times. Each time I have to terminate the program (whatever it is, it doesn't tell me) before Windows will reset. It's a bit tedious. This First Aid program sounds like it might be a worthwhile investment, although I'm usually rather skeptical about such utilities. Also, getting hold of software here in Darwin is rather challenging. Adam -- Dr. Adam Britton | crocodilian@ibm.net Crocodile Research | Wildlife Management Intl. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 06:30:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA067781423; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:30:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27295; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:30:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:29:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27205; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:29:41 -0400 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27195; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:29:38 -0400 Received: from caiman (slip202-135-73-155.sy.au.ibm.net [202.135.73.155]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA18982 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:29:35 GMT Message-Id: <199707071029.KAA18982@out1.ibm.net> From: "Adam Britton" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: 560 display slowdown Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 19:42:18 +0930 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > From: Steve Parker > Date: Monday, July 07, 1997 11:33 > > If it is any consolation Word 97 runs like a dog on my TP560-120/40MB > system too. It is also slow on my P100/64MB desktop. I think the basic > problem is that Microsoft couldn't code an eficient app if their lives > depended on it. Funny, I've read this same criticism about Office 97 elsewhere, but it runs like a dream on my 760ED. I notice no speed slowdown compared to Word 5 which I had on my P166 desktop, and disk access is comparable to anything else which runs under Win95. Perhaps the problems lies elsewhere... -- Adam Britton | crocodilian@ibm.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 10:11:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA125804704; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:11:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08002; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:11:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:07:36 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07581; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:07:34 -0400 Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id KAA03966; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rheoserver.pse.umass.edu (rheoserver.pse.umass.edu [128.119.70.193]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05938; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:34:17 -0400 Received: from rheo-port.pse.umass.edu (128.119.179.47) by rheoserver.pse.umass.edu (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Mon, 07 Jul 1997 00:37:07 -0400 Received: by rheo-port.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BC8A6D.7A6D8F00@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:34:06 -0400 Message-Id: <01BC8A6D.7A6D8F00@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> From: axel hartmann To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" , "'Dale Chao'" Subject: RE: 701CS/Win95 WAV problems Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 23:13:48 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu hi, on the tp701: > * trying to install Focal Point (the 32-bit successor to FaxWorks)I > can't get the message files to play. can you give more information on this program? does it support telephony, and if so, how is it better than faxworks? is there a company name, telephone number, web-site? a price? axel ...................................................................... Axel Hartmann . Paper Summer : 30 Kellog Ave; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . Voice only : +1 (413) 256 - 6264 . E-Mail : Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . ...................................................................... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 10:43:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA135066606; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:43:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10852; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:42:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:42:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10646; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:42:04 -0400 Received: from tky0.attnet.or.jp (tky0.attnet.or.jp [165.76.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10571; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:41:49 -0400 Received: from compaq (46.gate7.tokyo.attnet.or.jp [165.76.17.158]) by tky0.attnet.or.jp (8.7.5+Spin/3.4W4-PP-R5(05/15/97)) id XAA19792; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 23:41:48 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199707071441.XAA19792@tky0.attnet.or.jp> From: "Maiko Kobayashi" To: Subject: Re: ESS1688 Full Duplex Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 23:41:19 +0900 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Tom Franklin wrote: >>>>> Has anyone got full-duplex working on the ESS1688 sound chip used in the Thinkpad 760, TP560, and TP380? I have the latest IBM drivers and it only allows half duplex. <<<<< The TP380 uses the Crystal Semiconductor CS4236 which is full duplex (see the press release at http://www.crystal.com/new/95_1030p.htm). Friedrich Huebler via mkobay@tky0.attnet.or.jp From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 10:54:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA138507273; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:54:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11980; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:54:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:52:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11758; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:52:49 -0400 Received: from eastgate.cyberway.com.sg (eastgate.cyberway.com.sg [203.116.1.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11744; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:52:40 -0400 Received: from default (d125060.ppp125.cyberway.com.sg [203.116.125.60]) by eastgate.cyberway.com.sg (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA01040 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 22:52:38 +0800 (SST) Message-Id: <199707071452.WAA01040@eastgate.cyberway.com.sg> Reply-To: From: "Poh Kian Hock" To: Subject: Thinkpad 380D or 365XD Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 22:50:54 +0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi everyone, I not an owner of a Thinkpad (yet!). Wish I was! I'm seriously thinking of getting one and it will be my very first Notebook. My dream machine would be the TP 380D with the TFT screen but due to cost I'll have to settle for the DSTN model. But then again, I'm not so sure. Can anyone give me advice on the following: 1. I heard the 380D's DSTN is almost typical TFT standard. Any owner willing to testify? 2. The TP365XD with TFT display (though 11.3") cost almost the same. Which is better, 11.3" TFT or 12.1" DSTN? ( this question sounds a bit silly really, but I've never own a NoteBook before) 3. In what ways are the 380D better than 365XD? As you can probably guess, I'm agonising between the 2 because I'm concern about the DSTN display quality. Pls help me to decide. As I'm new to Thinkpads, I appreciate any comments/advice from you all. Lots of thanks. Kian-Hock Poh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 10:55:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA138727318; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:55:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12091; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:54:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:53:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11818; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:53:06 -0400 Received: from eastgate.cyberway.com.sg (eastgate.cyberway.com.sg [203.116.1.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11774; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:52:52 -0400 Received: from default (d125060.ppp125.cyberway.com.sg [203.116.125.60]) by eastgate.cyberway.com.sg (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA07493; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 22:52:36 +0800 (SST) Message-Id: <199707071452.WAA07493@eastgate.cyberway.com.sg> Reply-To: From: "Poh Kian Hock" To: "axel hartmann" , , "'Dale Chao'" Subject: Re: 701CS/Win95 WAV problems Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 22:32:52 +0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu A yr ago, I bought the LAN version of Faxworks Pro. I remember it's >from a company called Global Village but I forget their web site address. Maybe you can do a search for it. Hope this helps... ---------- > From: axel hartmann > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; 'Dale Chao' > Subject: RE: 701CS/Win95 WAV problems > Date: Monday, July 07, 1997 11:13 AM > > hi, > > on the tp701: > > > * trying to install Focal Point (the 32-bit successor to FaxWorks)I > > can't get the message files to play. > > can you give more information on this program? does it support > telephony, and if so, how is it better than faxworks? > is there a company name, telephone number, web-site? > a price? > > axel > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 11:15:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA145148500; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:15:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13796; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:14:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:13:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13642; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:13:29 -0400 Received: from polytechnique.polytechnique.fr (polytechnique.polytechnique.fr [129.104.30.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13632; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:13:19 -0400 Received: from tunis.seriat.fr (tunis.seriat.fr [192.70.119.3]) by polytechnique.polytechnique.fr (z.y.z/x.y.z) with SMTP id RAA20868; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:16:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from cairo.seriat.fr by tunis.seriat.fr (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01827; Mon, 7 Jul 97 17:13:00 +0200 Received: (from mentre@localhost) by cairo.seriat.fr (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA13882; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:10:48 +0200 To: Cc: Subject: Re: Thinkpad 380D or 365XD References: <199707071452.WAA01040@eastgate.cyberway.com.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.95) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 From: David.Mentre@seriat.fr (David =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mentr=E9?=) Date: 07 Jul 1997 17:10:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Poh Kian Hock"'s message of "Mon, 7 Jul 1997 22:50:54 +0800" Message-Id: Lines: 19 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.56/Emacs 19.34 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by polytechnique.polytechnique.fr id RAA20868 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "Poh Kian Hock" writes: > 2. The TP365XD with TFT display (though 11.3") cost almost the same. > Which is better, 11.3" TFT or 12.1" DSTN? ( this question sounds a > bit silly really, but I've never own a NoteBook before) I personally own a 365XD DSTN. Although this thinkpad is very nice, the DSTN display is merely annoying (at least in graphical environments like X-Window, Win95 and games). Even under text console, it is exhausting to work for a long time on it. I would strongly advice you to consider a TFT display. Hope it helps, david --=20 David Mentr=E9 / CERSIAT-BAE / Sys admin - 365XD Linux home page: http://www.seriat.fr/~mentre/365xd/ - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 11:26:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA148599192; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:26:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14771; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:26:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:25:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14684; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:25:32 -0400 Received: from polytechnique.polytechnique.fr (root@polytechnique.polytechnique.fr [129.104.30.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14661; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:25:24 -0400 Received: from tunis.seriat.fr (tunis.seriat.fr [192.70.119.3]) by polytechnique.polytechnique.fr (z.y.z/x.y.z) with SMTP id RAA21603 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:28:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from cairo.seriat.fr by tunis.seriat.fr (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02857; Mon, 7 Jul 97 17:25:13 +0200 Received: (from mentre@localhost) by cairo.seriat.fr (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA13926; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:23:11 +0200 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [New Subscriber] Here is more info Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.95) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 From: David.Mentre@seriat.fr (David =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mentr=E9?=) Date: 07 Jul 1997 17:23:09 +0200 Message-Id: Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.56/Emacs 19.34 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by polytechnique.polytechnique.fr id RAA21603 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello all thinkpad users, I've recently subscribed to this list, therefore I will present my configuration: - ThinkPad 365XD DSTN (with CD-ROM) - 24 Mb of RAM - ~1 Gb of disk - OS:=20 . Linux 2.0.x (mainly) . Win95 (for IBM configuration utilities) - accessories: none I've made a specific 365XD Linux page: http://www.seriat.fr/~mentre/365xd/index.html If anybody want more details, do not hesitate to email me. david --=20 David Mentr=E9 / CERSIAT-BAE / Sys admin From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 11:44:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA155190248; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:44:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16294; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:43:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:43:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16186; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:43:04 -0400 Received: from acme.sb.west.net (root@acme.sb.west.net [205.254.224.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16164; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:42:58 -0400 Received: from richard-s-pico (term3-21.sb.west.net [205.254.225.85]) by acme.sb.west.net (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA15062; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 08:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970707084347.0068d62c@mail.west.net> X-Sender: richram@mail.west.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 08:43:47 -0700 To: "Swartz, Charles" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" From: Richard Rampton Subject: Re: 560 display slowdown - solution In-Reply-To: <199707070100.VAA28101@CS.UTK.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Dear Charles et al, Installing Ofice 97 seemed to be a terrible mistake to me as well. I use a 750-C. I thought the machine was sitting in molasses. I found the slowdown culprit was the MS OUTLOOK program. Go to the Outlook program, then under TOOLS, then OPTIONS then under JOURNAL: UNCHECK all the automatic recording updates for ALL PROGRAMS. Your Office 97 will return to normal speed. Richard At 05:58 PM 7/6/97 -0700, Swartz, Charles wrote: >I just installed Office 97 in my 560 and immediately noticed a latency >delay in the display. This is true while typing text in the ordinary >way - a slight lag. It's very apparent during a dial-up networking >session, where 95 displays a dialog box upon connection with the >"minutes and seconds connected". The seconds do not appear regularly, >but every few digits lag. > >The 560 has 40 MB of RAM and is otherwise unexceptionable. > >Any ideas to fine-tune? It's really annoying.... > >TIA > >Charles Swartz > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 12:40:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA172773616; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:40:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20690; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:37:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:36:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20489; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:36:06 -0400 Received: from r02n05.cac.psu.edu (r02a05.cac.psu.edu [146.186.15.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20434; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:35:51 -0400 Received: from PSU (access-isdn1-41.hbg.psu.edu [146.186.228.171]) by r02n05.cac.psu.edu (8.7.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA48044 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:35:42 GMT Message-Id: <199707071635.QAA48044@r02n05.cac.psu.edu> X-Sender: rfm@email.psu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 12:35:21 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Robert F. Munzenrider" Subject: 701 Win95 video drivers Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I finally got around to loading Windows95 on my 701C -- and thanks to all who sent me kinds words of advice on how to proceed (HINT: download the Win95Setup and FlashBIOS upgrade files from IBM and install....) I used a Mountain Backpack external (parallel port) cd drive and it worked (and works generally) like a charm. My only regret is that I didn't do this months ago.... IBM has Win95 upgrade files for sound, video, & the inra-red mousegizmo, none of which I have used. Instead, I've let the machine make use of the Win95-supplied drivers. And I have a question relating to this use of the Win95 defaults. The clarity (resolution???) for .jpg graphics sucks, both on the 701 screen and on external monitors (OK: I'm looking at Martian pictures.....) I have the video set to 640x480 & 256 colors, and it's my understanding that this is as high as this system can go. So I'm wondering whether or not loading the IBM-supplied Win95 upgrade driver would improve resolution any? Anybody have any ideas? Thanks in advance. Bob Munzenrider Penn State Harrisburg From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 13:02:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA179754947; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:02:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22272; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:02:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:01:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22140; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:01:21 -0400 Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22096; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:01:02 -0400 Received: from ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com (ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.25]) by docws001.shl.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA60598 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:47:44 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC8AD5.F38EF230@ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com>; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:01:57 -0400 Message-Id: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Robert F. Munzenrider" Subject: RE: 701 Win95 video drivers Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:58:59 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 60 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sure, you can use hi-colour, 16-bit, 64K colours. Right click on the screen, choose Properties, then Settings. Choose High Color(16-bit). You then have to reboot unless you have QuickRes installed (available from Microsoft ftp site in Powertoys suite). If w95 won't let you select High Color, then check that you are using the Chips & Technology adapter driver by clicking on the "Change Display Type" button. The monitor driver should be the generic "laptop display (640x480)". If you go to the Chips & Technology website, you can pick up an updated driver for the 65545 chip that supports MS's Direct X 3.0 3D display API. Oh yeah. The 701 sometimes doesn't like hi-colour when a DOS window is displayed. To get it back to normal, switch to the 701 setup screen (Fn-F1), then ESCape key to exit. It will unfuzz. So how does Mars look? Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com ---------- From: Robert F. Munzenrider[SMTP:rfm@psu.edu] Sent: 1997 July 7 - Monday 12:35 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701 Win95 video drivers I finally got around to loading Windows95 on my 701C -- and thanks to all who sent me kinds words of advice on how to proceed (HINT: download the Win95Setup and FlashBIOS upgrade files from IBM and install....) I used a Mountain Backpack external (parallel port) cd drive and it worked (and works generally) like a charm. My only regret is that I didn't do this months ago.... IBM has Win95 upgrade files for sound, video, & the inra-red mousegizmo, none of which I have used. Instead, I've let the machine make use of the Win95-supplied drivers. And I have a question relating to this use of the Win95 defaults. The clarity (resolution???) for .jpg graphics sucks, both on the 701 screen and on external monitors (OK: I'm looking at Martian pictures.....) I have the video set to 640x480 & 256 colors, and it's my understanding that this is as high as this system can go. So I'm wondering whether or not loading the IBM-supplied Win95 upgrade driver would improve resolution any? Anybody have any ideas? Thanks in advance. Bob Munzenrider Penn State Harrisburg From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 13:14:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA183725672; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:14:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23390; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:14:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:13:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23214; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:13:21 -0400 Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23186; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:13:15 -0400 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA07563; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:08:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08155; Mon, 7 Jul 97 13:14:43 EDT Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA13031; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:14:36 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:14:36 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle To: "Robert F. Munzenrider" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 Win95 video drivers In-Reply-To: <199707071635.QAA48044@r02n05.cac.psu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Robert F. Munzenrider wrote: > And I have a question relating to this use of the Win95 defaults. The > clarity (resolution???) for .jpg graphics sucks, both on the 701 screen > and on external monitors (OK: I'm looking at Martian pictures.....) I > have the video set to 640x480 & 256 colors, and it's my understanding that > this is as high as this system can go. I won't repeat everything I said on this topic last week. The 701 can do 640x480x32k, 640x480x64k, and 640x480x16M (The CS may not be able to do the last, and you can't tell the difference between these three even with a TFT). Others have said updated Win95 drivers are available at www.chips.com. -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 14:09:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA200148993; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:09:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27194; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:08:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:06:50 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26824; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:06:50 -0400 From: Keith Moore Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id OAA04703; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707071806.OAA04703@spot.cs.utk.edu> Apparently-To: Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu To: undisclosed-recipients:;@cs.utk.edu subscribe From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 14:09:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA200228997; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:09:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27189; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:08:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:06:45 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26796; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:06:44 -0400 Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id OAA04690; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:06:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08895; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:22:54 -0400 Received: from tom-s-laptop (slip129-37-239-86.co.us.ibm.net [129.37.239.86]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA97068; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:22:45 GMT Message-Id: <199707071422.OAA97068@out2.ibm.net> Reply-To: From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Adam Britton" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: 560 display slowdown Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 08:23:34 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Could it be that the TP760 has a cache and the older TP560s don't? I didn't buy a TP560 for that very reason. I understand the new TP560s machines have the cache. ---------- > > If it is any consolation Word 97 runs like a dog on my TP560-120/40MB > > system too. It is also slow on my P100/64MB desktop. I think the basic > > problem is that Microsoft couldn't code an eficient app if their lives > > depended on it. > > Funny, I've read this same criticism about Office 97 elsewhere, but it runs > like a dream on my 760ED. I notice no speed slowdown compared to Word 5 > which I had on my P166 desktop, and disk access is comparable to anything > else which runs under Win95. Perhaps the problems lies elsewhere... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 14:48:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA211501323; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:48:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27200; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:08:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:06:43 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26784; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:06:41 -0400 Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id OAA04677; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:06:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08876; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:22:49 -0400 Received: from tom-s-laptop (slip129-37-239-86.co.us.ibm.net [129.37.239.86]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA13066; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:22:43 GMT Message-Id: <199707071422.OAA13066@out2.ibm.net> Reply-To: From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Adam Britton" , Subject: Re: The other problem, flickering screen Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 08:21:19 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu When I use my Insight 340MB PC Card it gets real hot. After a while it even stops functioning. I think IBM blew it on the TP760 when they designed the PC Card slots. The CPU must be right under them or something. My TP760EL and TP760E flickers when charging, but not ever during discharge. The only time during discharge where I see a flicker is when I use two batteries and it switches from #1 to #2. ---------- > The PCMCIA card are almost too hot to handle when I take them out. Is this > going to affect their performance? The battery is one component I would From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 7 16:32:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA244107519; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:31:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09052; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:31:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:29:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08597; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:28:58 -0400 Received: from umunhum.Stanford.EDU (Umunhum.Stanford.EDU [171.64.74.80]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08565; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:28:44 -0400 Received: (from kevin@localhost) by umunhum.Stanford.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA16422; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:28:26 -0700 From: "Kevin W. Rudd" Message-Id: <199707072028.NAA16422@umunhum.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 380D or 365XD To: pkh@post1.com Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I not an owner of a Thinkpad (yet!). been there! > 2. The TP365XD with TFT display (though 11.3") cost almost the same. > Which is better, 11.3" TFT or 12.1" DSTN? ( this question sounds a > bit silly > really, but I've never own a NoteBook before) i have a 365xd with a 10.4" tft and have been very happy with it. while the size is smaller than i'd like (the bigger the better in screens) i have yet to see a dstn that was even remotely tollerable. but this is a personal choice with many opting for larger dstn over tft. i haven't seen the 380 models yet but have played with a 760 and was very disappointed with the keyboard. the upshot is that you should make sure that you'll be happy with both the screen and the keyboard before you buy---neither can be fixed if you don't like them and both can make use difficult. cheers, ---K From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 8 00:17:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA084855472; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 00:17:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00737; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 00:17:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Jul 1997 00:14:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00575; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 00:14:54 -0400 Received: from ganymede.dnai.com (ganymede.dnai.com [207.33.147.80]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00564; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 00:14:48 -0400 Received: from sfoca-mweiden.pmi (dnai-207-33-180-143.dialup.dnai.com [207.33.180.143]) by ganymede.dnai.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA16463 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970707205811.006b4ff8@disquiet.com> X-Sender: marc@disquiet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 20:58:11 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Marc Weidenbaum Subject: tranxit, oops, thanks In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Man, I just wanted to thank everyone who replied to my plea for post-Tranxit assistance. I get a bit jittery when my computer says something about system files. Muchas gracias to everyone who held my hand. -mrc --- Marc Weidenbaum http://www.disquiet.com http://www.citysearch7.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 8 00:39:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA090836774; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 00:39:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01955; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 00:39:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Jul 1997 00:37:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01860; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 00:37:32 -0400 Received: from access.mbnet.mb.ca (root@access.mbnet.mb.ca [204.112.178.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01839; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 00:37:26 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME (ts4m-8.mbnet.mb.ca [204.112.178.59]) by access.mbnet.mb.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA20141 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 23:37:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <33C1E030.683C@mbnet.mb.ca> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 23:37:36 -0700 From: Jason Savage Reply-To: Jason_Savage@mbnet.mb.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: 701 - Swapping between 3.11 and 95 Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, As soon as my caddy arrives, I'm planning to install Win95 and Linux on it. My question is about the Win95 Bios extensions (tpwin95, I believe) >from the IBM that I seem to need to install for 95 to work properly. I plan on leaving my original 720MB with Win3.11 untouched. With these 95 BIOS extensions installed will my Win3.11 still work properly? Especially since Win3.11 isn't a plug & play OS like 95. Thanks in advance for any help. Sincerely Jason Savage Savage@MBnet.MB.CA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 8 05:35:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA171194517; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 05:35:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21890; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 05:34:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Jul 1997 05:32:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21701; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 05:32:47 -0400 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21691; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 05:32:43 -0400 Received: from caiman (slip202-135-73-140.sy.au.ibm.net [202.135.73.140]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA150124 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:32:42 GMT Message-Id: <199707080932.JAA150124@out2.ibm.net> From: "Adam Britton" To: Subject: Re: Thinkpad 380D or 365XD Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 08:58:13 +0930 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > From: Kevin W. Rudd > Date: Tuesday, July 08, 1997 05:58 > > but this is a personal choice with many opting for larger dstn over > tft. i haven't seen the 380 models yet but have played with a 760 and > was very disappointed with the keyboard. > > the upshot is that you should make sure that you'll be happy with both > the screen and the keyboard before you buy---neither can be fixed if > you don't like them and both can make use difficult. I've never seen a DSTN screen that I liked, especially when it comes to rapid update of the display (e.g. scrolling down a Word document). TFT, in my opinion, is better than most monitors. As far as the keyboards go, the only advantage I could see with a Toshiba Tecra over the 760 I eventually bought was the keyboard seemed much nicer on the Toshiba. However, with use, the 760 keyboard has loosened up wonderfully and is now just perfect. Remember, of course, that for a relatively small sum, you can always attach an external keyboard. External monitors are a bit more pricey, and to be honest it has to be good to be as sharp as a TFT unless you prefer size over quality. Adam Britton | crocodilian@ibm.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 8 11:35:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA275086141; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:35:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08913; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:34:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:29:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08491; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:29:07 -0400 Received: from mail01.citylinq.net ([207.173.198.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08463; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:28:59 -0400 Received: from pele.wolfenet.com ([207.173.198.32]) by mail01.citylinq.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0122 ID# 201-33923U500L100S0) with SMTP id AAA178; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 08:28:23 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970708082912.006b39c8@mail01.citylinq.net> X-Sender: peterl@mail01.citylinq.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 08:29:12 -0700 To: "Adam Britton" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Lewis Subject: Re: Thinkpad 380D or 365XD In-Reply-To: <199707080932.JAA150124@out2.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 08:58 AM 7/8/97 +0930, you wrote: TFT, in >my opinion, is better than most monitors. I guess this is a matter of personal preference, but I disagree. CRTs literally shoot images into your eyeballs. Laptop screens, even TFTs, are dull by comparison. The best TFT I've seen, the brand new, Mac 20th anniversary edition, at 800x600 in thousands of colors, is quite good (at $7,500 a copy it better be!) but still inferior to my .26 dot pitch Nokia. Lighting conditions can make a big difference of course, ie., soft indirect lighting helps both TFTs and DSTNs a bunch. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 8 11:50:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA279707043; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:50:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09832; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:50:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:46:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09556; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:46:46 -0400 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09544; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:46:41 -0400 Received: from caiman (crocodilia@slip202-135-73-66.sy.au.ibm.net [202.135.73.66]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA34646; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:46:32 GMT Message-Id: <199707081546.PAA34646@out2.ibm.net> From: "Adam Britton" To: , "Peter Lewis" Subject: Re: Thinkpad 380D or 365XD Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 01:13:13 +0930 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > From: Peter Lewis > Date: Wednesday, July 09, 1997 00:59 > > I guess this is a matter of personal preference, but I disagree. CRTs > literally shoot images into your eyeballs. Laptop screens, even TFTs, are > dull by comparison. The best TFT I've seen, the brand new, Mac 20th > anniversary edition, at 800x600 in thousands of colors, is quite good (at > $7,500 a copy it better be!) but still inferior to my .26 dot pitch Nokia. > Lighting conditions can make a big difference of course, ie., soft indirect > lighting helps both TFTs and DSTNs a bunch. Not that I want to start a discussion about the merits of TFT v. CRT, but I do like the soft nature of the screens - very easy on the eyes. They don't work in direct sunlight, but then I can't say CRTs are very useful then either. The main reason I like TFT is the clarity, colour and lack of distortion. At 1024x786 it's quite remarkable. When you work on images, it enables to you really see any flaws therein. It is personal preference, and CRT is better than TFT in some situations, but I would certainly buy a TFT monitor for a desktop if I thought I could afford it! Easy to lug around too. DualScan screens seem poor in comparison to either, lacking vibrant colours and having relatively slow update. Depends what your eyes can take, I suppose. Their big disadvantage is scaling - a 640x480 display takes up a much smaller area on a fixed-pixel TFT screen, and I've yet to see screen scaling that isn't ugly. Adam Britton From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 8 11:56:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA281427414; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:56:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10228; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:56:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:52:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09971; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:52:50 -0400 Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09954; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:52:42 -0400 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA26105; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17177; Tue, 8 Jul 97 11:57:33 EDT Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA27407; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:57:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:57:45 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle To: Peter Lewis Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 380D or 365XD In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19970708082912.006b39c8@mail01.citylinq.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Peter Lewis wrote: > > > TFT, in > >my opinion, is better than most monitors. > > > > I guess this is a matter of personal preference, but I disagree. CRTs > literally shoot images into your eyeballs. Laptop screens, even TFTs, are > dull by comparison. The best TFT I've seen, the brand new, Mac 20th > anniversary edition, at 800x600 in thousands of colors, is quite good (at > $7,500 a copy it better be!) but still inferior to my .26 dot pitch Nokia. I would imagine that's because of the power restrictions on most laptop displays. I had a color LCD TV which was dull using the backlight, but flip the back open and let the sunlight through and it was very bright (problem was they put a nice glossy layer of plastic over the screen so being in sunlight almost turned it into a mirror) . I'm curious how a "desktop" TFT would look if it had an incandescent or halogen backlight instead of a fluorescent backlight. The biggest difference I noticed when I first got a laptop was how much *sharper* the display was than a monitor. The "individual" pixels that made up the letters were razor sharp almost to the point of being distracting. Then I used a monitor again and felt like everything was out of focus. :) -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 8 12:26:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA291009193; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:26:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12310; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:25:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:23:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12129; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:23:21 -0400 Received: from tky0.attnet.or.jp (tky0.attnet.or.jp [165.76.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12119; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:23:15 -0400 Received: from compaq (34.gate13.tokyo.attnet.or.jp [165.76.18.179]) by tky0.attnet.or.jp (8.7.5+Spin/3.4W4-PP-R5(05/15/97)) id BAA04268; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 01:23:11 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199707081623.BAA04268@tky0.attnet.or.jp> From: "Maiko Kobayashi" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Thinkpad 380D or 365XD Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 01:22:49 +0900 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >>>>> 1. I heard the 380D's DSTN is almost typical TFT standard. Any owner willing to testify? <<<<< A friend of mine owns a 365 with DSTN screen and although it is not bad I find that TFT screens are still superior. (I saw a 380 with a DSTN screen and the display looked the same as on a 365.) One can often read the argument that "a DSTN screen is fine if you mainly do word processing" but I disagree to some extent, at least as far as long typing sessions are concerned. I find myself fiddling with the contrast control too often when using my friend's computer and scrolling through a document is impossible. On the other hand, if you don't spend long hours looking at the display and if money is an important issue for you, a DSTN screen might be okay. My friend certainly doesn't regret his purchase. >>>>> 3. In what ways are the 380D better than 365XD? <<<<< Faster processor, bigger hard drive, internal FDD/CD-ROM combination (which I find very convenient although it makes the 380 half an inch thicker than the 365). >>>>> I haven't seen the 380 models yet but have played with a 760 and was very disappointed with the keyboard. <<<<< I own a 380D and its excellent keyboard was one of the reasons why I bought this particular model. The keyboard on the 760 seems to be very flimsy. Even the 365 has a better keyboard than the 760. Which computer should you buy? I recommend that you go to a store and find out which notebook you feel most comfortable with. Take your time, try typing something and compare the screen quality using different applications. You will probably use your computer for a few years and therefore you should make sure that you won't regret your purchase at a later point, even if you end up spending more money than you had planned initially. Good luck! Friedrich Huebler via mkobay@tky0.attnet.or.jp From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 8 12:43:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA296000228; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:43:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13317; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:42:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:40:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13155; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:40:10 -0400 Received: from callisto.si.usherb.ca (callisto.si.USherb.ca [132.210.10.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13132; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:40:02 -0400 Received: from 17-0025.Residence.usherb.ca by callisto.si.usherb.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA60344; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:35:14 -0400 Received: by 17-0025.residence.usherb.ca with Microsoft Mail id <01BC8B9C.1CEBB660@17-0025.residence.usherb.ca>; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:40:27 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC8B9C.1CEBB660@17-0025.residence.usherb.ca> From: Fabian Rodriguez To: "'ThinkPad List'" Subject: IBM new support pages Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:40:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, Did you notice the new Thinkpad support pages? I was pretty impressed = when enetring my serial number gave all the details of my machine and = configurad a personalized profile on their WWW pages. You have to = register at http://www.pc.ibm.com/register/thinkpad.html Maybe you guys with new interesting pages about the Thinkpads (like the = Linux stuff) should consider writing IBM anota about it. Will they link? Just my $.02 Fabian From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 8 22:49:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA177876574; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 22:49:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18956; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 22:49:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Jul 1997 22:47:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18773; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 22:47:42 -0400 Received: from germany.it.earthlink.net (germany-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.123]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18763; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 22:47:34 -0400 Received: from pool022-max5.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool022-max5.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.21.97]) by germany.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA04891; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 19:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707090247.TAA04891@germany.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Dale Chao" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 08 Jul 97 19:48:23 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Another video observation Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 03 Jul 1997 12:58:17 -0700, Dale Chao wrote: >While we're on the subject of video, has anybody noticed this oddity? > >On a 701CS, Win95, running a DOS session in a window will screw up the >screen if the color depth is 16-bit, but not at 256 colors. > >Just wondering if anybody has DOS window settings that will work in 16-bit >without going to a full screen session. > Maybe it's the color palette. I have the same problem in OS/2 - 16 bit mode -> open DOS session -> screen gets messed up -> press Fn-F1 -> press ESC -> back to normal. Maybe it's a limitation of the CT65545 chip. BTW, I have a DSTN screen, but right now I don't have this problem because my backlight broke and am using an external PS/2 monitor. Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 8 23:33:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA190889213; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:33:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21000; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:33:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:32:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20882; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:32:36 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20871; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:32:31 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA11873; Tue, 8 Jul 97 17:32:29 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA00439; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 17:33:28 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199707090333.RAA00439@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 380D or 365XD To: kim@mak.com (John Kim) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 97 17:33:26 HST Cc: peterl@citylinq.com, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "John Kim" at Jul 8, 97 11:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I would imagine that's because of the power restrictions on most > laptop displays. I had a color LCD TV which was dull using the > backlight, but flip the back open and let the sunlight through > and it was very bright (problem was they put a nice glossy layer > of plastic over the screen so being in sunlight almost turned it > into a mirror) . A removable back would be a *great* feature on laptops - I'd work outside all the time if I could see my screen in the sun. > "individual" pixels that made up the letters were razor sharp > almost to the point of being distracting. Then I used a monitor > again and felt like everything was out of focus. :) Yes, but a good monitor has much more saturated color, especially monitors optimized for brightness rather than accuracy (e.g., NEC and Nokia). Now, if only they weren't so heavy to lug around:-) - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 8 23:48:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA195360093; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:48:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21919; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:47:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:47:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21804; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:47:18 -0400 Received: from mail01.citylinq.net ([207.173.198.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21794; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:47:15 -0400 Received: from pele.wolfenet.com ([207.173.198.39]) by mail01.citylinq.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0122 ID# 201-33923U500L100S0) with SMTP id AAA166 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 20:46:40 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970708204729.0069aed8@mail01.citylinq.net> X-Sender: peterl@mail01.citylinq.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 20:47:29 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Lewis Subject: repost request Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In the past 24 hours, I'm fairly sure someone posted about a service IBM is providing at their website that allows you to enter the serial number on your unit to get a read out of what it was made with. Just for kicks I wanted to visit that site, but I can't find it at IBM and I've inadvertantly trashed the original message. Would some kind soul please repost or send to me privately? Thanks! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 9 00:23:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA206982223; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 00:23:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23486; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 00:23:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 00:22:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23314; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 00:22:22 -0400 Received: from mail01.citylinq.net ([207.173.198.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23304; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 00:22:18 -0400 Received: from pele.wolfenet.com ([207.173.198.39]) by mail01.citylinq.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0122 ID# 201-33923U500L100S0) with SMTP id AAA171 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 21:21:45 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970708212234.0069b7b0@mail01.citylinq.net> X-Sender: peterl@mail01.citylinq.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 21:22:34 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Lewis Subject: repost received Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Repost re IBM registration site received. Thanks much! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 9 01:09:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA221114974; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 01:09:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25711; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 01:09:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 01:08:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25567; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 01:08:18 -0400 Received: from germany.it.earthlink.net (germany-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.123]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25556; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 01:08:12 -0400 Received: from pool030-max7.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool030-max7.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.16.105]) by germany.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA09212; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 22:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707090507.WAA09212@germany.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "David Ross" , "John Kim" Cc: "peterl@citylinq.com" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 08 Jul 97 22:09:18 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thinkpad 380D or 365XD Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 8 Jul 97 17:33:26 HST, David Ross wrote: >> I would imagine that's because of the power restrictions on most >> laptop displays. I had a color LCD TV which was dull using the >> backlight, but flip the back open and let the sunlight through >> and it was very bright (problem was they put a nice glossy layer >> of plastic over the screen so being in sunlight almost turned it >> into a mirror) . > >A removable back would be a *great* feature on laptops - I'd work >outside all the time if I could see my screen in the sun. > >> "individual" pixels that made up the letters were razor sharp >> almost to the point of being distracting. Then I used a monitor >> again and felt like everything was out of focus. :) > >Yes, but a good monitor has much more saturated color, especially monitors >optimized for brightness rather than accuracy (e.g., NEC and Nokia). >Now, if only they weren't so heavy to lug around:-) > >- David > > > Don't forget about plasma (gas plasma) technology. It rivals many monitors, but if only the chains and ropes >from your credit card company would set you free (that is, they cost a bundle). I even hear that resolution is *better* than that of an Active Matrix LCD! Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 9 01:11:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA221755119; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 01:11:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26015; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 01:11:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 01:10:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25853; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 01:10:49 -0400 Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net (denmark-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25835; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 01:10:43 -0400 Received: from pool030-max7.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool030-max7.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.16.105]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA10017 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 22:10:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707090510.WAA10017@denmark.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Tue, 08 Jul 97 22:12:05 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Multiple OSes on single partition Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Just curious: has anyone here been able to fit, or rather manage to have Linux, Win NT, Win 95, DOS/Win3.x, and OS/2 co-exist on a single partition? Also, I found a REXX script that creates the ThinkPad 701 Hibernation file in HPFS if anyone wants that also. Thanks. Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 9 10:24:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA070908266; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:24:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29054; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:23:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:21:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28842; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:21:18 -0400 Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28827; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:21:09 -0400 From: Received: from uucp4.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp4.UU.NET [192.48.96.35]) id QQcxlp29570; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:21:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw.UUCP by uucp4.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:21:04 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailgw.wellspringres.com id AA868467801 Wed, 09 Jul 97 10:03:21 Date: Wed, 09 Jul 97 10:03:21 Message-Id: <9706098684.AA868467801@mailgw.wellspringres.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP Memory Modules Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There was some discussion a few weeks ago about stacked memory and that using stacked memory was not a good idea. What I'm wondering is what are the visual clues indicating that stacked memory is being used in a given memory module? I ask this because I've gotten odd responses from sales people when I ask if the memory modules they are selling have stacked memory? Is there another term for this type of memory? Thanks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 9 11:29:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA092042158; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:29:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03489; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:28:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:27:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03373; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:27:33 -0400 Received: from rheoserver.pse.umass.edu (rheoserver.pse.umass.edu [128.119.70.193]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03353; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:27:26 -0400 Received: from rheo-port.pse.umass.edu (128.119.70.196) by rheoserver.pse.umass.edu (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Wed, 09 Jul 1997 11:30:35 -0400 Received: by rheo-port.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BC8C5B.145EC900@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:27:27 -0400 Message-Id: <01BC8C5B.145EC900@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> From: axel hartmann To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Another video observation (TP701) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:27:25 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu hi, [...] >>On a 701CS, Win95, running a DOS session in a window will screw up the >>screen if the color depth is 16-bit, but not at 256 colors. [...] >Maybe it's the color palette. I have the same problem in OS/2 - 16 bit mode -> >open DOS session -> screen >gets messed up -> press Fn-F1 -> press ESC -> back to normal. Maybe it's a >limitation of the CT65545 chip. At 16 bit color depth there is no palette. It is also not a limitation of the chip, because before I reinstalled my TP701, I had it fixed, though I cannot recall which updated driver actually did it, and I have not been able to reproduce it. I dimly remember that an updated sound driver was the last thing I installed before I noticed that I wasn't getting messed- up screens anymore. axel ...................................................................... Axel Hartmann . Paper Summer : 30 Kellog Ave; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . Voice only : +1 (413) 256 - 6264 . E-Mail : Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . ...................................................................... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 9 13:21:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA126588904; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:21:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10546; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:20:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:13:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09936; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:13:31 -0400 Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09926; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:13:20 -0400 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA20567; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01574; Wed, 9 Jul 97 13:18:54 EDT Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA15685; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:18:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:18:14 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle To: David Ross Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 380D or 365XD In-Reply-To: <199707090333.RAA00439@tarski.hawaii.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, David Ross wrote: > > > "individual" pixels that made up the letters were razor sharp > > almost to the point of being distracting. Then I used a monitor > > again and felt like everything was out of focus. :) > > Yes, but a good monitor has much more saturated color, especially monitors > optimized for brightness rather than accuracy (e.g., NEC and Nokia). I noticed this as well. I made the mistake of doing some photoediting on my laptop. When I saw the final product on a monitor, it looked like something out of a garish 1950s movie. Lime-green grass, orange skin, sapphire skies. :( -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 9 17:38:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA206384337; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:38:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29459; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:37:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:35:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29301; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:35:57 -0400 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29286; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:35:52 -0400 Received: from caiman (slip202-135-73-95.sy.au.ibm.net [202.135.73.95]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA104588 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:35:51 GMT Message-Id: <199707092135.VAA104588@out2.ibm.net> From: "Adam Britton" To: Subject: Re: Thinkpad 380D or 365XD Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 07:02:39 +0930 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > From: John Kim > Date: Thursday, July 10, 1997 02:48 > > I noticed this as well. I made the mistake of doing some > photoediting on my laptop. When I saw the final product > on a monitor, it looked like something out of a garish 1950s > movie. Lime-green grass, orange skin, sapphire skies. :( I do photo-editing all the time on my 760ED. The screen is excellent, and I've checked the results on a monitor and it looks just as good. What can I say? :) The only problem I have is that I have to look at the screen square on. If I tilt the screen just a little too far, the colours are darker than normal (and not far enough, they are too light). Monitors are more tolerant of funny angles. Still, TFT screens keep improving. I reckon CRT will be a thing of the past in the very near future. Adam From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 9 19:39:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA242421541; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:39:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05597; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:38:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:37:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05460; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:37:25 -0400 Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05449; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:37:21 -0400 Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA09808; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:37:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:37:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Video chipset on 380D? Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know what the graphics chipset is on the 380 Thinkpads? Thanks From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 9 20:01:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA248462875; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:01:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06813; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:00:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:00:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06697; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:00:13 -0400 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06661; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:59:43 -0400 Received: from unkle.uplanet.com (host-166-202.uplanet.com [204.163.166.202]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA09629 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 16:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970709165915.008c3100@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 16:59:33 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jesse Montrose Subject: 560 in a wetsuit (with picture) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu As David Ross pointed out, the 560 fits in a wetsuit 1.0 just fine, a little bit loose. Here it is if anyone else is interested, the case in the picture is black, the purplish tint is a trick of the light and my digital camera. http://www.spine.com/wetsuit.jpg I bought the wetsuit from www.isn.com for ~$30, and it came in a couple days. _____________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.spine.com After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 9 21:46:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA278349184; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:46:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11356; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:45:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:44:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11234; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:44:42 -0400 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11224; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:44:37 -0400 Received: from jloyless (slip129-37-127-214.ca.us.ibm.net [129.37.127.214]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA109986; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:44:24 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970709214255.01377870@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> X-Sender: jloyles@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 21:42:55 -0400 To: Peter Lewis From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: repost received Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19970708212234.0069b7b0@mail01.citylinq.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 09:22 PM 7/8/97 -0700, you wrote: >Repost re IBM registration site received. > Hmmm... I never saw the original *or* the repost - can someone e-mail it to me? Thanks! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 9 22:04:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA283300282; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:04:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12170; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:04:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:03:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12071; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:03:33 -0400 Received: from iceland.it.earthlink.net (iceland-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.28]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12058; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:03:29 -0400 Received: from pool072-max2.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool072-max2.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.8.72]) by iceland.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA07883; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707100203.TAA07883@iceland.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "axel hartmann" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 09 Jul 97 19:04:41 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Another video observation (TP701) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:27:25 -0400, axel hartmann wrote: >hi, > >[...] >>>On a 701CS, Win95, running a DOS session in a window will screw up the >>>screen if the color depth is 16-bit, but not at 256 colors. >[...] >>Maybe it's the color palette. I have the same problem in OS/2 - 16 bit mode -> >open DOS session -> screen >>gets messed up -> press Fn-F1 -> press ESC -> back to normal. Maybe it's a >limitation of the CT65545 chip. > >At 16 bit color depth there is no palette. It is also not a limitation of >the chip, because before I reinstalled my TP701, I had it fixed, though >I cannot recall which updated driver actually did it, and I have not been >able to reproduce it. I dimly remember that an updated sound driver was >the last thing I installed before I noticed that I wasn't getting messed- >up screens anymore. > >axel > Which OS are you using? Also, has anyone been able to get XWindows to even run in 16-bit mode? Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 9 22:10:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA284500600; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:10:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12617; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:09:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:08:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12492; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:08:49 -0400 Received: from iceland.it.earthlink.net (iceland-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.28]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12471; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:08:43 -0400 Received: from pool072-max2.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool072-max2.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.8.72]) by iceland.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA09803; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707100208.TAA09803@iceland.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "David Ross" , "John Kim" Cc: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 09 Jul 97 19:09:29 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thinkpad 380D or 365XD Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:18:14 -0400 (EDT), John Kim wrote: >On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, David Ross wrote: >> >> > "individual" pixels that made up the letters were razor sharp >> > almost to the point of being distracting. Then I used a monitor >> > again and felt like everything was out of focus. :) >> >> Yes, but a good monitor has much more saturated color, especially monitors >> optimized for brightness rather than accuracy (e.g., NEC and Nokia). > >I noticed this as well. I made the mistake of doing some >photoediting on my laptop. When I saw the final product >on a monitor, it looked like something out of a garish 1950s >movie. Lime-green grass, orange skin, sapphire skies. :( > Photo editing is definantly not something you would want to do on an LCD, unless you don't have any other choices. Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 9 22:16:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA286680986; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:16:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13034; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:15:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:15:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12941; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:15:18 -0400 Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12929; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:15:12 -0400 Received: from granthil (async17-1.remote.ualberta.ca [129.128.237.26]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA13182 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:15:04 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970709201428.006bf734@pop.srv.ualberta.ca> X-Sender: agh1@pop.srv.ualberta.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 20:14:28 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Grant Hilsenteger Subject: New list member problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi I'm new to the list, and I have a problem that maybe someone can help me out with. My mom just got herself a used TP 701CS. I have been checking it out, and it has worked fine for a week. However, the day she wrote up the bill of sale (wouldn't you know it) after I plugged in the Multiport to it and booted up, I removed the multiport, and it crashed. Now it will turn on, the power light will come on, but nothing else happens. No beeps, no HD activity, nothing on the screen, no RAM check, nothing. Is this some sort of protected mode? She didn't get a manual with it, and I know it has some suspend modes that require passwords and such. Is this one of them? Today, I phoned up IBM Canada and got someone who ran me through a few simple steps (take out the battery, plug in the adapter, turn it on, nothing.....hold the F1 key, turn it on, nothing....) and decided that they would call it in and look at it since it is apparently still under warranty. This is great, but I think that it is probably something simple since it was working just fine up until then, and I'd rather fix it on this end other than have it sent away for however how long. Any ideas on how to solve this problem? Also, since I have never bought a new laptop before with loaded software, is there a way to retrieve off the net or somewhere the original loaded software? There were some good programs on the computer that the previous owner deleted. Grant Hilsenteger agh1@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca http://www.ualberta.ca/~agh1 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 9 22:51:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA296133101; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:51:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14568; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:51:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:50:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14464; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:50:26 -0400 Received: from shell.izap.com (root@shell.izap.com [207.211.45.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14452; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:50:18 -0400 Received: from NO-IDENT-SERVICE@fr22.izap.com (port 9476 [207.211.45.122]) by shell.izap.com with SMTP id <227982-3318>; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:50:09 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970709194638.006b12c4@izap.com> X-Sender: jg@izap.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 19:46:38 -0700 To: Grant Hilsenteger From: josh Subject: Re: New list member problem Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19970709201428.006bf734@pop.srv.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I bought my think pad "open box", within th efirst week my modem died... Having just bought & not being able to turn it, I was very upset, but after consulting with EasyServe & seeing no other alternative, I sent in on a Wednesday & amazingly enough, got it back the following Monday... I was very pleased. They state that Their turnaround is about a week. If you 'have' to send it I don't think you will wait too long & being that it's under warranty & purchased used - it may a good idea, this way they can give a complete "check out"...And you can sleep a little better at night when it comes back, check the IBM webSite for the software. At 08:14 PM 7/9/97 -0600, you wrote: >Hi > >I'm new to the list, and I have a problem that maybe someone can help me >out with. > >My mom just got herself a used TP 701CS. I have been checking it out, >and it has worked fine for a week. However, the day she wrote up the bill >of sale (wouldn't you know it) after I plugged in the Multiport to it and >booted up, I removed the multiport, and it crashed. Now it will turn on, >the power light will come on, but nothing else happens. No beeps, no HD >activity, >nothing on the screen, no RAM check, nothing. Is this some sort of >protected mode? She didn't get a manual with it, and I know it has some >suspend modes that require passwords and such. Is this one of them? > >Today, I phoned up IBM Canada and got someone who ran me through a few >simple steps (take out the battery, plug in the adapter, turn it on, >nothing.....hold the F1 key, turn it on, nothing....) and decided that they >would call it in and look at it since it is apparently still under >warranty. This is great, but I think that it is probably something simple >since it was working just fine up until then, and I'd rather fix it on this >end other than have it sent away for however how long. > >Any ideas on how to solve this problem? > >Also, since I have never bought a new laptop before with loaded software, >is there a way to retrieve off the net or somewhere the original loaded >software? There were some good programs on the computer that the previous >owner deleted. > > > > > > >Grant Hilsenteger >agh1@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca >http://www.ualberta.ca/~agh1 > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 9 23:13:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA003884424; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 23:13:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15606; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 23:13:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 23:12:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15529; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 23:12:48 -0400 Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15501; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 23:12:36 -0400 Received: from granthil (async16-16.remote.ualberta.ca [129.128.237.25]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA32600; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:12:26 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970709211153.006c20d4@pop.srv.ualberta.ca> X-Sender: agh1@pop.srv.ualberta.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 21:11:53 -0600 To: josh From: Grant Hilsenteger Subject: Re: New list member problem Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970709194638.006b12c4@izap.com> References: <3.0.3.32.19970709201428.006bf734@pop.srv.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 07:46 PM 7/9/97 -0700, josh wrote: > >I bought my think pad "open box", within th efirst week my modem died... >Having just bought & not being able to turn it, I was very upset, but after >consulting with EasyServe & seeing no other alternative, I sent in on a >Wednesday & amazingly enough, got it back the following Monday... I was >very pleased. They state that Their turnaround is about a week. >If you 'have' to send it I don't think you will wait too long & being that >it's under warranty & purchased used - it may a good idea, this way they >can give a complete "check out"...And you can sleep a little better at >night when it comes back, check the IBM webSite for the software. > > > Thanks. You're probably right. I was told that the turnaround would be five days. My mom will probably be happiest if they look at it first, and maybe I can get some sleep, since I was the one who advised her to buy it! ;) I'll probably have a few more questions about it as the weeks go past since I don't have a manual. Cheers, P.S. Is there a reset switch on a TP 701CS? I know there is on other laptops, but I can't see one on it. Grant Hilsenteger agh1@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca http://www.ualberta.ca/~agh1 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 10 00:21:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA024498505; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:21:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18234; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:21:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:20:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18124; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:20:19 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18079; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:20:10 -0400 Received: from ssh (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA05977; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:28:53 -0600 Message-Id: <33C4634D.2883F0C6@wwsi.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 22:21:34 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: josh Cc: Grant Hilsenteger , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: New list member problem X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <3.0.1.32.19970709194638.006b12c4@izap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In addition, they may be able to put all the software that came on it back on it. BTW, hot unplugging anything from a 701 is not a good idea! Have you booted it with the dock on it? -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 10 00:23:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA025178622; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:23:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18431; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:23:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:22:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18313; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:22:40 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18294; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:22:34 -0400 Received: from ssh (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA05994; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:31:19 -0600 Message-Id: <33C463DF.D62F79C7@wwsi.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 22:23:59 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Jane Loyless Cc: Peter Lewis , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: repost received X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <3.0.1.32.19970709214255.01377870@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Did you notice the new Thinkpad support pages? I was pretty impressed when enetring my serial number gave all the details of my machine and configurad a personalized profile on their WWW pages. You have to register at http://www.pc.ibm.com/register/thinkpad.html > > Maybe you guys with new interesting pages about the Thinkpads (like the Linux stuff) should consider writing IBM anota about it. Will they link? -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 10 00:26:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA026318762; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:26:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18662; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:25:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:24:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18552; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:24:18 -0400 Received: from mail01.citylinq.net ([207.173.198.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18542; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:24:14 -0400 Received: from pele.wolfenet.com ([207.173.198.40]) by mail01.citylinq.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0122 ID# 201-33923U500L100S0) with SMTP id AAA166 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:23:41 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970709212430.00699a8c@mail01.citylinq.net> X-Sender: peterl@mail01.citylinq.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 21:24:30 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Lewis Subject: registration shmegistration Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Several of you responded (thanks again) to my request to repost the item re the IBM registration address at: http://www.pc.ibm.com/register/thinkpad.html I've corresponded with the original author, who says I must have missed a "login" link where IBM spits out the particulars of the just-registered machine. (This is what I thought made the post interesting in the first place). I'm sure I've already spent too much time on this silly little quest, but I'm just not seeing such a login button. All I get is a generic "thanks for registering" notice, and have seen no details on my unit. Any help on this? Thanks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 10 00:48:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA032340104; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:48:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19608; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:47:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:47:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19519; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:47:05 -0400 Received: from mail1.halcyon.com (mail1.halcyon.com [206.63.63.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19509; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:47:01 -0400 From: Received: from karensw.halcyon.com (evt-lx101-ip34.nwnexus.net [204.57.235.84]) by mail1.halcyon.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA00139 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970709214648.007c1100@mail.halcyon.com> X-Sender: karensw@mail.halcyon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 21:46:48 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: registration shmegistration In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19970709212430.00699a8c@mail01.citylinq.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 09:24 PM 7/9/97 -0700, Peter Lewis wrote: > >Several of you responded (thanks again) to my request to repost the item re >the IBM registration address at: > >http://www.pc.ibm.com/register/thinkpad.html > >I've corresponded with the original author, who says I must have missed a >"login" link where IBM spits out the particulars of the just-registered >machine. (This is what I thought made the post interesting in the first >place). > >I'm sure I've already spent too much time on this silly little quest, but >I'm just not seeing such a login button. All I get is a generic "thanks for >registering" notice, and have seen no details on my unit. > >Any help on this? > >Thanks. > I also went through the hoops of re-registering my machine and entering a password to use in the future. Now I can't find a page to use my password. Where's the gimmick stuff we're looking for? Karen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 10 01:32:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA044942747; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:32:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20993; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:31:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:31:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20876; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:31:06 -0400 Received: from shell.wco.com (root@shell.wco.com [199.4.94.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20866; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:31:02 -0400 Received: from marie-kiyoi (ppp-207-104-159-141.wnck11.pacbell.net [207.104.159.141]) by shell.wco.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/WCO-2jun97) with SMTP id WAA20240 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <33C3CB27.367E@pacbell.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 10:32:23 -0700 From: blitzin Reply-To: blitzin@pacbell.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: I've lost my (high)memory! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi there, To anyone that can be of help, I seem to have gotten myself into a somewhat sticky situation with my 755CX. It has been running a minimal install of WIN95 ever since I got it and until now has gotton along with the hardware until recently. Here is what I "think" is going on: I believe that a virus has gone and eaten the "HIGHMEM.SYS" file from my win95 boot. Without this, I can only boot into DOS and WIN95 "Safe Mode". From what I understand, this pretty much means I will have to do a full re-install. Ugh. This presents some problems already. 1. WIN was installed from 3.5 disks, which I do not have. 2. I cannot use my PCMCIA cd, as it is unavaliable in the Safe Mode. 3. While I can probably get my hands on a 3.5 version of WIN95, I am but a novice, and have never atempted such before, and I could use a little guidence. For instance, will I need to install "over" the current system, as I cannot format due to disk compression? What about all my thinkpad specific files? Battery life, Thinkpad help, ect? What will happen to them, and more importantly the settings controls? Any and all help would be most, well, helpful. regards, Jeff Blitzin@pacbell.net (please send any responses direct) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 10 01:39:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA046433140; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:39:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21474; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:38:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:37:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21360; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:37:55 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21348; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:37:50 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA16085; Wed, 9 Jul 97 19:37:50 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA03798; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:38:49 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199707100538.TAA03798@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: 560 in a wetsuit (with picture) To: jesse@spine.com (Jesse Montrose) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 97 19:38:47 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970709165915.008c3100@mailhost.hooked.net>; from "Jesse Montrose" at Jul 9, 97 4:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu When I saw this post I thought, "Is there any reason in the world why I'd want to download this?" (since I already know what a wetsuited 560 looks like). Then I took a look (of course, on my 560 in its wetsuit case). Very tempting to take a picture. What we should really do is focus live screen cams on our machines, then log into each others web site:-) - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 10 11:01:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA195326893; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:01:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26997; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 10:59:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Jul 1997 10:54:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26475; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 10:54:02 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26462; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 10:53:50 -0400 Received: from ssh (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08119; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:02:28 -0600 Message-Id: <33C4F8D3.FAE71678@wwsi.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:59:31 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: blitzin@pacbell.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: I've lost my (high)memory! X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <33C3CB27.367E@pacbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Jeff, You should be able to get a HIGHMEM.SYS file from someone else, copy it into your c:\WINDOWS directory, and have a great life! You might want to run an antivirus tool first, of course. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 10 11:14:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA198907644; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:14:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28552; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:13:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:12:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28360; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:12:19 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28350; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:12:14 -0400 Received: from ssh (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08203; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:20:59 -0600 Message-Id: <33C4FD2A.A0293F68@wwsi.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:18:02 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: karensw@halcyon.com Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: registration shmegistration X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <3.0.1.32.19970709214648.007c1100@mail.halcyon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Ya'll might want to look at: http://www3.pc.ibm.com/support?page=profile I think this is really the capability that we all would like. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 10 11:36:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA205189000; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:36:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00798; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:36:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:35:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00651; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:35:23 -0400 Received: from mail01.citylinq.net ([207.173.198.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00608; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:35:11 -0400 Received: from pele.wolfenet.com ([207.173.198.58]) by mail01.citylinq.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0122 ID# 201-33923U500L100S0) with SMTP id AAA163; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:34:11 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970710083522.006b76d4@mail01.citylinq.net> X-Sender: peterl@mail01.citylinq.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:35:22 -0700 To: Steve Hultquist , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Lewis Subject: Re: registration shmegistration In-Reply-To: <33C4FD2A.A0293F68@wwsi.com> References: <3.0.1.32.19970709214648.007c1100@mail.halcyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thank you, Steve. At 09:18 AM 7/10/97 -0600, you wrote: >Ya'll might want to look at: > >http://www3.pc.ibm.com/support?page=profile > >I think this is really the capability that we all would like. >-- >Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. >Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado >mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 10 22:40:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA095568832; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 22:40:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02366; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 22:38:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Jul 1997 22:37:14 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02175; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 22:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id WAA28305; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 22:37:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu (merle.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01038; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 22:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from all-people.nwu.edu (eng223046.res-hall.nwu.edu) by merle.acns.nwu.edu with SMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA268328585; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:49:45 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970710184910.008393a0@merle.acns.nwu.edu> X-Sender: jcl757@merle.acns.nwu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:49:10 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Jason Lin Subject: Thinkpad 560 RAM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just bought a Thinkpad 560. Someone would like to sell me a 16MB RAM module from his Thinkpad 365XD. He told me that the two models use the same RAM. Is this true? Thanks in advance. jason jasonlin@nwu.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 11 15:41:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA072330059; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:40:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26456; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:34:49 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25806; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id PAA02682; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:34:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bcarsde4.localhost (mailgate.nortel.ca [192.58.194.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16842; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 03:44:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707110744.DAA16842@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from bcars735.ott.bnr.ca (actually 47.128.2.191) by bcarsde4.localhost; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 03:37:09 -0400 Received: from bnr.ca by bcars735.bnr.ca id <08705-0@bcars735.bnr.ca>; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 03:43:03 -0400 Date: 11 Jul 1997 03:42 EDT Sender: "Daniel Hammett" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Daniel Hammett" Subject: Q: TP750 model numbers Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Folks I'm busy filling in those wonderful registration pages that everyone has been talking about, but I now realise I am short of some information. My Thinkpad is a mono 750, machine type 9545. Does anyone have the model number for that machine (340MB HDD)? I have all that at home, but I'm not there and I'm just too excited to wait the entire weekend before completing the form! If anyone on UK (or near) time is reading this list this morning (Friday, July 11th) and knows the answer, could they post it, please? Regards Dan. *---------------------------------------------------------------* | Dan Hammett - TN-16X Hardware Engineer | *---------------------------------------------------------------* | NORTEL Engineering Centre | | | Doagh Road, | Tel: +44 (0) 1232 363525 | | Newtownabbey | ESN: 6 751 3525 | | Co. Antrim, BT36 6XA | Email: dhammett@nortel.com | | Northern Ireland | | *---------------------------------------------------------------* | Opinions expressed in this email are mine, not my employer's | *---------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 11 15:41:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA072430073; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:41:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26454; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:39:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:32:14 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25311; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:32:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id PAA02584; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16539; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:44:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from TP560.usc.edu (comserv-h-23.usc.edu [128.125.224.23]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id JAA22881; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970711093947.00708890@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:44:34 -0700 To: Jason Lin From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Thinkpad 560 RAM Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 06:49 PM 7/10/97 -0500, Jason Lin wrote: >I just bought a Thinkpad 560. Someone would like to sell me a 16MB RAM >module from his Thinkpad 365XD. He told me that the two models use the >same RAM. Is this true? Yes. Sometime back when I bought a 16 MB module for my 560, the box from the manufacturer said it was for the 365X/XD and the 760E/ED. Strangely enough, it *didn't* say it was for a 560! But it was--and it worked just fine. ------- Randal J. Whittle whittle@usc.edu (213) 740-7775 Director, Electronic Commerce Program Marshall School of Business, University of Southern California From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 11 15:46:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA073780363; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:46:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26444; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:32:31 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25364; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id PAA02610; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hauki.clinet.fi (root@hauki.clinet.fi [194.100.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02749; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:44:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thinkpad (96-58.dyn.clinet.fi [194.100.96.58]) by hauki.clinet.fi (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA14359 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:44:09 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199707111244.PAA14359@hauki.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97 11:26:44 +0300 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <01BC8C5B.145EC900@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> Subject: RE: Another video observation (TP701) X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.29 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 at 11:27 AM you, axel hartmann , said: >>>On a 701CS, Win95, running a DOS session in a window will screw up the >>>screen if the color depth is 16-bit, but not at 256 colors. >At 16 bit color depth there is no palette. It is also not a limitation of >the chip, because before I reinstalled my TP701, I had it fixed, though I >cannot recall which updated driver actually did it, and I have not been >able to reproduce it. Running a windowed DOS- or OS/2-session works fine on my TP701C with a 16-bit color depth (640x480x65536). This is with version 3.22 of the C&T 65545 driver for OS/2, found in the self-extracting file vo701322.exe The driver is advertised as written specifically for the 701C/701CS and 24-bit color is claimed to be supported (640x480x16777216 is listed as an option in System Setup - System - Screen) but I haven't been able to get it to work. Has anyone succeeded? Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 15 23:06:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA150322386; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:06:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17626; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:05:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:00:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17459; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:00:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14136; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 20:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tom-s-laptop (slip129-37-239-96.co.us.ibm.net [129.37.239.96]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA20040; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 00:46:16 GMT Message-Id: <199707160046.AAA20040@out1.ibm.net> Reply-To: From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Stephen Hosmer" , Subject: Re: IBM's Mwave Modem news Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:25:50 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It is on their FTP site: ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles/ ---------- > From: Stephen Hosmer > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tom Franklin > Subject: Re: IBM's Mwave Modem news > Date: Monday, July 14, 1997 6:51 PM > > Does anyone know when and where the upgrade is? > > On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 19:39:38 -0600, Tom Franklin wrote: > > >Copied from http://www3.pc.ibm.com/support/techinfo/45e6.html > > > >MWave Modem - Past, Present and Future > > > >When it first shipped, the MWave Modem supported up to 14.4K data > >rates. A free upgrade early in 1996 took it to 28.8K. Towards the end > >of 1996, a 33.6K update was released - publicly for certain Aptiva > >models and an IBM internal beta for ThinkPads. The ThinkPad upgrade > >will be released to customers soon, and all current MWave systems will > >likely support some form of 56kbps modem late in 1997 once the > >emerging PCM-based standard is ratified. > > > > > >Note: Some 56K Modems will be available before then but they will > >probably be based on extensions to current V.34 technology rather than > >PCM. > > > > > >All this is possible because, uniquely in the Modem world, the MWave > >Modem is completely software-driven. Other implementations may be > >easier to configure initially, but hardwiring a Modem's logic or > >burning code into EPROM makes speed-upgrading (and indeed bug fixing) > >difficult if not impossible. Hybrid implementations also exist in the > >marketplace (such as "WinModems"). These have some modem function - > >such as the critical Data Pump - hardwired in silicon, and use the > >main system processor to handle other functions such as compression > >and error-correction. Although this implementation is cost-effective > >and does permit upgrading/fixing the protocol functions, the maximum > >data rate is fixed and there can be considerable CPU performance > >degradation - 10% or more is likely. Not only that, one common > >implementation today (Compaq's Lucent Modem) does not offer native > >DOS, Windows NT or OS/2 support. In contact, MWave is supported on all > >popular operating systems. > > > >(snip) > > > >Copyright 1997 IBM Corporation > >last published: 1997-07-02 > > ________________________________ > Royale Energy Inc. (NASDAQ:ROYL) > Stephen Hosmer (hosmer@royl.com) > CFO > > To request a Public key send a message > with "send Public key" as subject. > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 15 23:09:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA151142585; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:09:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17975; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:09:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:08:27 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17780; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id XAA13423; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:08:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout11.mail.aol.com (emout11.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15236; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 02:19:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout11.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id CAA18376 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 02:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 02:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <970712021849_617547994@emout11.mail.aol.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755 cd -, extra memory Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu does anyone know a good source to get additional ram memory for the 755cd (8 or 16 mb's) thank yo so much. would like to change OS from Win 3.1 to 95 but only running 8mb preeseently. i wish to increase to at least 16 mb, preferably higher. thnak you so much for anticipated comments and/or suggestions. fred From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 15 23:18:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA153613086; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:18:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18631; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:16:56 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18511; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:16:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id XAA13493; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anshar.shadow.net (anshar.shadow.net [204.177.71.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14860; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 11:32:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gmo (ppp-78.shadow.net [209.4.38.98]) by anshar.shadow.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02058 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 11:38:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707131538.LAA02058@anshar.shadow.net> From: "Geovanny M. Ortiz" To: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Subject: Home network Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 11:30:47 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Some time ago I posted a message about a coax home network. Some of you responded with very good solutions, one of which was to buy a crossover twisted pair cable. I've tried to locate one locally, but had no luck. Some of you also mentioned that it was very easy to build one. What would I need to build one? Thank you all in advance for your answers. Geovanny M. Ortiz From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 15 23:19:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA153973174; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:19:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18814; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:18:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:17:49 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18660; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:17:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id XAA13521; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.clark.net (mail.clark.net [168.143.0.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05181; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 02:14:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shin_hw.clark.net (shin-hw.clark.net [168.143.13.19]) by mail.clark.net (8.8.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA06477 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 00:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970714002005.008fc4c0@clark.net> X-Sender: shin_hw@clark.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 00:21:02 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Henry Shin Subject: FS: parts for 760C Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I thought some of you may be interested in what I have to sell. I hope you can excuse this FS posting. I have parts from ThinkPad 760C for sale. The parts came out from a working laptop with a broken screen. CPU card - Pentium 90 FRU 29H9198 $798 $250 System board FRU 29H9199 $1,165 $350 Removable floppy drive FRU 29H9230 $96 $65 Video card FRU 29H2907 $204 $85 DSP card FRU 29H9205 $241 $90 NiMH battery - New FRU 84G1510 $50 8 MB memory upgrade $25 Keyboard $75 I have remaining parts for sale also. So, if you don't see the part you need let me know. Some of the parts are exchangeable with other 760 series models so check even if you have a slightly different model. I put the IBM's price for reference. Let me know if you have any questions OFF THE MAILING LIST. Thanks! shin_hw@clark.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 15 23:27:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA155823625; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:27:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19860; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:26:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:25:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19705; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po.tspi.com.ph ([202.58.249.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19665; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:25:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.58.249.46] by po.tspi.com.ph TSPINET 35025139 TSPIWORLD / ka028116 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:17:04 +0800 Sender: dchua@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <33CC3C81.2632@tspi.com.ph> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:14:09 +0800 From: "Dennis M. Chua" Organization: Tsukiden Software Philippines X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: external floppy problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Info: Welcome To TSPIWORLD!!! Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I just installed Windows 95 on a ThinkPad 701CS and I am having trouble using the external floppy drive. With the drive connected before I boot the machine, Windows cannot see Drive A:. This problem occurs both when I use File Manager and when I open a DOS console. However, when I shutdown to MS-DOS mode, I can change directory and view the floppy. The strange thing is that all the while I was installing, the installation disks could be read from the drive. Please reply to my address below. Thanks. -- Dennis M. Chua Tsukiden Software Philippines email : dchua@tspi.com.ph fax : (632)6334039 voice : (632)6340264 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 15 23:27:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA156043668; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:27:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19974; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:27:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:26:29 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19545; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:24:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cs.utk.edu by spot.cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id XAA13685; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:24:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707160324.XAA13685@spot.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ To: lists:;@cs.utk.edu Subject: list breakdown Cc: moore@cs.utk.edu From: Keith Moore Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:24:12 -0400 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Last Thursday or so, I introduced a bug in my spam filter that caused all mail to several mailing lists to end up in my bounced-mail folder. I believe I have fixed the problem and resent the messages that didn't make it the first time. But if you've recently sent messages to the list, you might want to check and see whether they've been redistributed. I apologize for the inconvenience. Keith From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 15 23:52:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA162625152; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:52:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21214; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:51:35 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21144; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id XAA13653; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from andrew.cais.com (andrew.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09699; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 18:18:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cais2.cais.com (rj@cais2.cais.com [199.0.216.200]) by andrew.cais.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/CJKv1.99-CAIS) with SMTP id SAA11230 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 18:18:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 18:18:16 -0400 (EDT) From: rj To: ThinkPad List Subject: TP 701 Memory & Modem Difficulties Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just installed a 32MB memory module into my 701, which means I can use the 16MB module as a tooth pick or sell it. It's a IBM P/N:92G7263, 16MB 70ns 3.3V Non-parity. I've been using it for about one year with out difficulties and it has about two of the three years lefton the warranty. Any one interested send email to rj@cais.com with a reasonable offer and we'll work out the details. Now for the modem part of the post. I just got a Hayes Accura 56K PC Card modem and I can not get it to work worth a darn. I called Hays and and they said they don't support NT 4.0. However, many of their customers are running NT and some portion of this group got the modem functioning, or so they said! But they wouldn't discuss it because they don't support NT. Wird! And yes I know its not a wird as running NT on a 701 (which BTW was the reason for the memory upgrade, and it has helped). Has anyone on the list any ideas on how to get this modem to work correctly? Thanks in advance! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 15 23:53:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA162835194; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:53:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21299; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:52:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:52:10 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21228; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id XAA13660; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.royl.com (mail.royl.com [206.251.226.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11166; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 18:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slip129-37-254-140.il.us.ibm.net ( [129.37.254.140] ) by mail.royl.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:37:52 PST8PDT Message-Id: <199706151437.5234434.7@mail.royl.com> From: "Stephen Hosmer" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Tom Franklin" Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 08:51:24 +0800 Reply-To: "Stephen Hosmer" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 Gamma For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: IBM's Mwave Modem news Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know when and where the upgrade is? On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 19:39:38 -0600, Tom Franklin wrote: >Copied from http://www3.pc.ibm.com/support/techinfo/45e6.html > >MWave Modem - Past, Present and Future > >When it first shipped, the MWave Modem supported up to 14.4K data >rates. A free upgrade early in 1996 took it to 28.8K. Towards the end >of 1996, a 33.6K update was released - publicly for certain Aptiva >models and an IBM internal beta for ThinkPads. The ThinkPad upgrade >will be released to customers soon, and all current MWave systems will >likely support some form of 56kbps modem late in 1997 once the >emerging PCM-based standard is ratified. > > >Note: Some 56K Modems will be available before then but they will >probably be based on extensions to current V.34 technology rather than >PCM. > > >All this is possible because, uniquely in the Modem world, the MWave >Modem is completely software-driven. Other implementations may be >easier to configure initially, but hardwiring a Modem's logic or >burning code into EPROM makes speed-upgrading (and indeed bug fixing) >difficult if not impossible. Hybrid implementations also exist in the >marketplace (such as "WinModems"). These have some modem function - >such as the critical Data Pump - hardwired in silicon, and use the >main system processor to handle other functions such as compression >and error-correction. Although this implementation is cost-effective >and does permit upgrading/fixing the protocol functions, the maximum >data rate is fixed and there can be considerable CPU performance >degradation - 10% or more is likely. Not only that, one common >implementation today (Compaq's Lucent Modem) does not offer native >DOS, Windows NT or OS/2 support. In contact, MWave is supported on all >popular operating systems. > >(snip) > >Copyright 1997 IBM Corporation >last published: 1997-07-02 ________________________________ Royale Energy Inc. (NASDAQ:ROYL) Stephen Hosmer (hosmer@royl.com) CFO To request a Public key send a message with "send Public key" as subject. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 00:00:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA164955615; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 00:00:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21632; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:59:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21534; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from italy.it.earthlink.net (italy-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21510; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:59:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pool048-max5.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool048-max5.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.21.123]) by italy.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA10573; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 20:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707160321.UAA10573@italy.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Stephen Hosmer" , "tdf@ibm.net" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Tom Franklin" Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 20:23:06 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: IBM's Mwave Modem news Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:25:50 -0600, Tom Franklin wrote: T or OS/2 support. In contact, MWave is supported on all >> >popular operating systems. >> > Not really. What about Linux support? Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 00:03:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA165955836; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 00:03:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21873; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 00:03:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 00:02:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21773; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 00:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Seoul-PSD.korea.army.mil (SEOUL-PSD.KOREA.ARMY.MIL [144.59.51.132]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21752; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 00:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by Seoul-PSD.korea.army.mil with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC91E8.C5438CF0@Seoul-PSD.korea.army.mil>; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 13:04:18 +0900 Message-Id: From: "Bronson, Scott E. CPT" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: FW: Home network Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 13:04:17 +0900 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 46 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu For all.... Scott >-----Original Message----- >From: Bronson, Scott E. CPT >Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 1997 4:02 AM >To: 'Geovanny M. Ortiz' >Subject: RE: Home network > >Geovanny, > >You need a RJ-45 crimping tool/die and two RJ-45 connectors (1 for each end). > >Ethernet only requires 4 wires, even though the RJ-45 connector has 8 >positions (2 for Tx, 2 for Rec) > >1st side: pins 1 2 3 6 (1&2 are Tx, 3&6 are Rec) > | | | | > | | | | >2nd side: pins 3 6 1 2 > >For example: If you have a green wire on 1st side (pin 1) then it needs to >go to 2nd side (pin 3) etc... > >You can see that the crossover is the transmits and receives. > >Any questions? > >Scott > >-----Original Message----- >From: Geovanny M. Ortiz [SMTP:o-n-a@shadow.net] >Sent: Sunday, July 13, 1997 3:31 PM >To: Thinkpad Mailing List >Subject: Home network > >Some time ago I posted a message about a coax home network. Some of you >responded with very good solutions, one of which was to buy a crossover >twisted pair cable. I've tried to locate one locally, but had no luck. >Some of you also mentioned that it was very easy to build one. What would >I need to build one? > >Thank you all in advance for your answers. > >Geovanny M. Ortiz From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 01:55:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA197452536; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 01:55:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19228; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:22:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:19:03 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18842; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:19:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id XAA13549; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anshar.shadow.net (anshar.shadow.net [204.177.71.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19268; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:59:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from drd (ppp-101.shadow.net [209.4.38.121]) by anshar.shadow.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA23831 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 14:05:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707141805.OAA23831@anshar.shadow.net> From: "Geovanny M. Ortiz" To: "Thinkpad mailing list" Subject: No mail Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:52:29 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have not received any messages in a while. Am I the only one with this problem? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 01:56:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA197582568; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 01:56:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19333; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:19:26 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18891; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:19:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id XAA13566; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.gte.net ([207.115.153.29]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17162; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 01:10:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from comreq (hilo131197.pac.gte.net [207.115.131.197]) by smtp.gte.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with ESMTP id AAA05335 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:10:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199707150510.AAA05335@smtp.gte.net> Reply-To: From: "Bob" To: Subject: ThinkPad 701C Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:09:58 -1000 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is it possible to upgrade the processor of a 701C? What about a software upgrade for the modem? Thank you, Bob. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 01:58:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA198182690; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 01:58:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19321; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:19:18 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18872; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:19:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id XAA13559; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:19:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from access.mbnet.mb.ca (root@access.mbnet.mb.ca [204.112.178.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09349; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 20:22:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (ts5m-1.mbnet.mb.ca [204.112.178.68]) by access.mbnet.mb.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA17698 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:22:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <33CADF00.734D@mbnet.mb.ca> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:22:56 -0700 From: Jason Savage Reply-To: Jason_Savage@mbnet.mb.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Fujitsu drives and the IBM Thinkpad update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Fujitsu Canada just confirmed it. The M271xTA and M272xTA hard drives are not compatible with any ThinkPad models. Ouch! Anyone with a 12.5mm 810MB Toshiba or IBM drive want to trade for a Fujitsu 1GB M2714TA? (Just remember no Thinkpads will work with this drive) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 01:58:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA198242697; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 01:58:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19472; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:24:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:13 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18976; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id XAA13591; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:19:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12340; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 09:47:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tom-s-laptop (slip129-37-231-203.co.us.ibm.net [129.37.231.203]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA50908 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:46:59 GMT Message-Id: <199707151346.NAA50908@out1.ibm.net> Reply-To: From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Thinkpad Distribution List" Subject: New Mwave 33.6 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 07:39:58 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Anyone try the new Mwave drivers 2.25? They have 33.6 capability. \\|||// (o) (o) ======.oOO==( )==OOo.======= || || || Thomas D. Franklin || || tom.franklin@usa.net || || || || .oooO Oooo. || =======( )===( )======== \ ( ) / \_) (_/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 01:58:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA198422730; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 01:58:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19531; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:24:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:47 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19054; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id XAA13638; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ganymede.dnai.com (ganymede.dnai.com [207.33.147.80]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08984; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 18:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sfoca-mweiden (dnai-207-33-180-225.dialup.dnai.com [207.33.180.225]) by ganymede.dnai.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA11319 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970712193240.006bc28c@disquiet.com> X-Sender: marc@disquiet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 19:32:40 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Marc Weidenbaum Subject: 701c --> Pentium In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Anyone upgraded their 701C 486 to a Pentium? I've been reading about a $399 upgrade, but am concerned about: (a) overheating, (b) software/hardware compatability, (c) voiding my IBM warranty, and (d) whether a 75mhz (or is it 100?) Pentium is really that big an improvement over the 486. -mrc --- Marc Weidenbaum mailto:marc@disquiet.com http://www.disquiet.com/ http://www.citysearch7.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 01:58:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA198482733; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 01:58:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19458; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:23:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:30 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19016; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id XAA13618; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brickbat9.mindspring.com (brickbat9.mindspring.com [207.69.200.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17054; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from desktop (ip212.lancaster.pa.pub-ip.psi.net [38.14.75.212]) by brickbat9.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA19438 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970715105526.006975e4@mindspring.com> X-Sender: houlihan@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:55:26 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Jerry Houlihan Subject: Thinkpad 701c Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just got a Thinkpad 701c w/16/500 and I have a bunch of questions that I'm hoping you Butterflies can answer (I know you're out there). Here they are: 1. Can I get 800x600 true rez (not the virtual rez)? 2. Why won't brightness and contrast work? 3. What do Fn-F3,F4,F12 do? 4. Has anyone gotten Links386 to work on the 701? 5. What monitor type should I select under Win95's Device manager? 6. Will the HD support Busmastering? 7. Will suspend eat battery power? 8. Will Hibernate eat battery power? 9. Why'd they put the power switch there? 10. Is there a .pdf manual available from IBM ftp? That's it for now. Thanks for any help. Jerry From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 01:59:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA198672766; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 01:59:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19475; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:24:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:56 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19068; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id XAA13646; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09520; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 18:14:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from textan.demon.co.uk ([194.222.92.160]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa1517179; 15 Jul 97 22:29 BST To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Help! Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 21:24:22 GMT Message-Id: <33cbe8ac.232032@post.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.326 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've inadvertantly locked myself out of my laptop at bios level. I was attempting to disable the password for the hardrive and just leave = the bios one. The bios accepted my new password for the hd and the padlock icon = unlocked. The machine then booted ok without asking for a password. The problem = came=20 the next time I attempted to enter the bios. It wouldnt accept the = password and then=20 locked up entirely. Now everytime I switch on It asks for a password and = none of mine work.=20 How do I get around this?. Is there an hardcoded supervisor password I = can use to get in?. Alternatively will removing the small button cell battery inside ditch = the password. The only other alternative I can think of is to take the machine to an IBM service= agent but the local agent is ridiculously expensive. matt@textan.demon.co.uk From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 02:02:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA202012948; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 02:02:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19465; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:23:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:43 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19039; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id XAA13631; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07183; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:14:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (buckpalace [206.173.119.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.5/(97/05/21 3.30)) id RAA22533; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:14:46 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from CRC3.Concentric.net (cnc137048.concentric.net [206.173.215.48]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.8.5) id RAA08259; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707152114.RAA08259@marconi.concentric.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:14:39 +0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: 760 ED Configuration... Reply-To: phong@concentric.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I was wondering if anyone can tell me how to configure my 760 ED with a 3COM Modem / Ethernet card? I want to use the modem on the PC Card but keep my DSP active for the MIDI / WAV files. What has been happening is that the COM ports keep jumping around in Windows 95 and never stablizes. Anyone have a solution? Thanks in advance. ... patrick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. email: phong@concentric.net Tel: (613) 769-1544 Fax: (613) 728-4063 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 02:04:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA202553073; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 02:04:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19456; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:23:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:24 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19002; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id XAA13605; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:20:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15416; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:40:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com (ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.25]) by docws001.shl.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA60370 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 09:27:04 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC910B.BA966EE0@ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com>; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:42:02 -0400 Message-Id: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: FYI: Insight has IBM 133MHz Pentium Notebook (IBT2625FE9) $1579.99 ThinkPad 365XD, 11.3" Dual Scan display, 8MB EDO DRAM, Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:35:57 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 84 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu They shipped my Home & Away LAN+modems right away... 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Change of Address: Email "remlist@insight.com" with your old and new addresses. ___________________________________________________________________ * Prices and availability are subject to change without notice * * Typographic errors are subject to correction * ___________________________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 02:46:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA213155578; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 02:46:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27540; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 02:45:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 02:43:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27395; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 02:43:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27385; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 02:43:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA05678; Tue, 15 Jul 97 20:43:31 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA09986; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 20:44:30 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199707160644.UAA09986@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: 701c --> Pentium To: marc@disquiet.com (Marc Weidenbaum) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 20:44:29 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970712193240.006bc28c@disquiet.com>; from "Marc Weidenbaum" at Jul 12, 97 7:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Anyone upgraded their 701C 486 to a Pentium? Can't be done. You *can* go to an AMD 586DX4-100; see www.math.hawaii.edu/~ross/CPU - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 02:53:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA214696011; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 02:53:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27861; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 02:53:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 02:51:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27772; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 02:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27761; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 02:51:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA05700; Tue, 15 Jul 97 20:51:13 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA10011; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 20:52:12 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199707160652.UAA10011@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c Questions To: houlihan@mindspring.com (Jerry Houlihan) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 20:52:11 HST Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970715105526.006975e4@mindspring.com>; from "Jerry Houlihan" at Jul 15, 97 10:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I just got a Thinkpad 701c w/16/500 and I have a bunch of questions that > 1. Can I get 800x600 true rez (not the virtual rez)? No. > 2. Why won't brightness and contrast work? Contrast never works on TFT displays. Brightness works on some 701 TFT screens, not on others (I had 4 altogether, it worked on 2 and didn't work on the other 2; obviously they made a spec change at some point) > 5. What monitor type should I select under Win95's Device manager? Laptop display panel, unless you're hooked to an external monitor. > 7. Will suspend eat battery power? Yes. > 8. Will Hibernate eat battery power? No. > 9. Why'd they put the power switch there? So you could turn the machine on and off. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 03:04:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA217496691; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 03:04:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28485; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 03:04:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 03:03:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28404; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 03:03:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28394; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 03:03:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ip-pdx16-22.teleport.com (ip-pdx07-17.teleport.com [206.163.123.210]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA20281 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 00:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 00:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707160703.AAA20281@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bryan Daum Subject: TP 701 Memory & Modem Difficulties Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Please tell us much do you notice the difference (am I going to hate this answer?)on the jump to 32MB module? And what system are you running and etc. especially where do you notice it the most? Bryan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 09:38:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA009850295; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:38:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19054; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:35:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:33:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18914; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:33:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18904; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:33:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com (ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.25]) by docws001.shl.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA26812 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:19:02 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC91CB.678D8DD0@ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com>; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:34:06 -0400 Message-Id: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: Thinkpad Mailing List , "Geovanny M. Ortiz" Subject: RE: Home network Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:29:58 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 140 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hmm, thought this would have the cross-over question answered - but it doesn't... From: jagosta@interaccess.com (John Agosta) Subject: RJx, USOC, and Jack Types Date: 11 Jul 1997 01:27:31 GMT Organization: Agosta and Associates Recently, there have been a few questions about RJxx jacks, pin-outs, and such. Here is a little something that may help out; it is (almost) 'verbatim' from the Siemen Company's catalog which contains some very good information on wiring guidelines. \ There are 4 basic modular jack styles. The 8 position and 8 position / keyed modular jacks are commonly and incorrectly referred to as RJ45 and keyed RJ45, respectively. The 6 position jack is commonly referred to as RJ11. Using these terms can sometimes lead to confusion since the RJ designations actually refer to very specific wiring configurations called USOC (Universal Service Ordering Codes). Each of these jacks can be wired for different configurations. Looking into the female connector, with 'clip' at bottom, the wiring is as follows: 6 Position jacks: 1 2 3 4 5 6 T/R Pair Pin # T 1 4 R 1 3 T 2 2 R 2 5 T 3 1 R 3 6 RJ11 is a 1 pair jack. RJ11C is a two pair jack. RJ25C is all three pairs. DEC's modified 6 position jack has an 'offset' key structure and is called MMJ. The offset was intended to prevent accidentally plugging DEC terminal equipment into analog lines and vice versa. Wiring is as follows: T/R Pair Pin # T1 1 3 R1 1 2 T2 2 4 R2 2 5 T3 3 1 R3 3 6 8 position USOC jacks can be wired for RJ45S, RJ46S, and RJ47S. Pin and pair placements are as follows: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 T/R Pair Pin # T1 1 5 R1 1 4 T2 2 3 R2 2 6 T3 3 2 R3 3 7 T4 4 1 R4 4 8 (Specific wiring for USOC configurations, with common applications can be found at www.ameritech.com) T568A Jacks: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 T/R Pair Pin # T1 1 5 R1 1 4 T2 2 3 R2 2 6 T3 3 1 R3 3 2 T4 4 7 R4 4 8 T568B Jacks: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 T/R Pair Pin # T1 1 5 R1 1 4 T2 2 1 R2 2 2 T3 3 3 R3 3 6 T4 4 7 R4 4 8 (Pairs 2 and 3 are reversed from T568A) Other jacks include: 10Base-T T/R Pair Pin # T1 1 1 R1 1 2 T2 2 3 R2 2 6 Token Ring T/R Pair Pin # T1 1 5 R1 1 4 T2 2 3 R2 2 6 ANSI TP-PMD X3T9.5 T/R Pair Pin # T1 1 1 R1 1 2 T2 2 7 R2 2 8 Colors: UTP 24 AWG stranded patch cable starting with pair 1: Green / Red, Black / Yellow, Blue / Orange, Brown / White. UTP solid 24 AWG horizontal cable starting with pair 1: White / Blue, White / Orange, White / Green, White / Brown. Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com ---------- From: Geovanny M. Ortiz[SMTP:o-n-a@shadow.net] Sent: 1997 July 13 - Sunday 11:31 To: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Home network Some time ago I posted a message about a coax home network. Some of you responded with very good solutions, one of which was to buy a crossover twisted pair cable. I've tried to locate one locally, but had no luck. Some of you also mentioned that it was very easy to build one. What would I need to build one? Thank you all in advance for your answers. Geovanny M. Ortiz From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 10:40:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA027754025; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:40:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21644; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:37:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21456; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21446; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ssh (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08438; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:44:54 -0600 Message-Id: <33CCDD95.3DD725B9@wwsi.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:41:26 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: phong@concentric.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760 ED Configuration... X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199707152114.RAA08259@marconi.concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Patrick Hong wrote: > I was wondering if anyone can tell me how to configure my 760 ED with a 3COM > Modem / Ethernet card? I want to use the modem on the PC Card but keep my DSP > active for the MIDI / WAV files. > > What has been happening is that the COM ports keep jumping around in Windows 95 > and never stablizes. Anyone have a solution? Patrick, Ah, the joys of Plug and Pray! Make sure that you've disabled the Mwave modem. Also, make sure that you have disabled the InfraRed port. If you don't use it, disable the external COM port, too. Boot the machine. Then, go into Control Panel | System and look at the COM ports in the configuration manager. You should have the ones you need where you want them. Activating and deactivating the various COM ports within the configuration manager may also be necessary. Apparently, the Thinkpad Plug-n-Play BIOS and Win95's Plug-n-Play support work cross-purposes for some reason most of the time. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 10:43:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA028554187; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:43:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21812; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:41:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:39:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21603; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:39:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21589; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:39:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ssh (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08462; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:48:04 -0600 Message-Id: <33CCDE54.101D4FE3@wwsi.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:44:36 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: matt@textan.demon.co.uk Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Help! X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <33cbe8ac.232032@post.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu We've seen a number of posts here attempting to get rid of the password. I don't think any of them have worked. A couple of things to check: CAPs versus lower case. You disable the password by entering it at the prompt with a space after it. I don't know how you "disabled" the password in the BIOS. Had you locked the BIOS a long time ago with a different password? The supervisor password doesn't prompt you on boot: That's either the system password (if it's a little monitor icon) or a harddrive password (with the harddrive icon). If you had both set to the same password, you need to disable both of them to make it work. Hope this helps... -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 10:49:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA030754547; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:49:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22212; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:46:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22063; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:46:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22053; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:46:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com (ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.25]) by docws001.shl.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA55938 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:32:06 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC91D5.9CF49EF0@ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com>; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:47:10 -0400 Message-Id: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Insight has IBM 133MHz Pentium Notebook (IBT2625FE9) $1579.99 ThinkPad 365XD, 11.3" Dual Scan display, 8MB EDO DRAM, Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:43:55 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 55 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Looking on the web, I found cheaper prices at http://www.computeresp.com/idx/COMPUTER_SYSTEMS/PORTABLE_COMPUTERS__MEMORY___ACCESSORIES/PENTIUM/SYSTEM/ Look under the IBM company listings.. - as low as $1099 today for a 365x (without CD, 1379 with CD. Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com ---------- From: TROTTIER, Tom[SMTP:ttrottier@shl.com] Sent: 1997 July 15 - Tuesday 10:36 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: FYI: Insight has IBM 133MHz Pentium Notebook (IBT2625FE9) $1579.99 ThinkPad 365XD, 11.3" Dual Scan display, 8MB EDO DRAM, They shipped my Home & Away LAN+modems right away... Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect SHL Systemhouse Ltd. 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From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 10:54:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA032114890; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:54:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22554; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:50:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22368; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:50:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22348; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:50:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tty47.tc1.nd.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id KAA18694; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707161449.KAA18694@judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: "Gabriel Ash" To: "thinkpad" Date: Wed, 16 Jul 97 09:51:04 Reply-To: "Gabriel Ash" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: IBM's Mwave Modem news Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:25:50 -0600, Tom Franklin wrote: >It is on their FTP site: ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles/ Could you tell me what files to download? ------------- Gabriel Ash Notre-Dame ------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 11:04:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA035025458; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:04:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23247; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:01:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23101; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:01:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23086; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com (ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.25]) by docws001.shl.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA20058 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:47:21 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC91D7.BE8FC2E0@ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com>; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:02:26 -0400 Message-Id: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: 701 and Home & Away modem/LAN PC card and Win95 problems Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:58:36 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 11 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm having problems configuring the H&A PC card in win95. Win 95 tells me to use different drivers. I'm using the latest one from the IBM HAWIN disk (feb 97), and I booted it and reset the PC card to work with Win95. Any suggestions? TIA, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 11:13:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA037416037; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:13:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23742; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:12:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:11:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23581; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:10:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from york.interport.net (york.interport.net [199.184.165.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23570; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:10:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from richard (usrts1port15.port.net [207.237.104.15]) by york.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA20759 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:10:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707161510.LAA20759@york.interport.net> From: "richard" To: Subject: larger hard drive for tp 560 ? Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:10:34 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a Thinkpad 560 with a 1 gb drive and would like to upgrade to a 2 gb drive. Will non-IBM drives work properly? If so, which ones? And will I be able to install a new drive myself? Will this void the warranty? thanks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 11:17:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA038416230; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:17:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23978; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:16:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:14:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23859; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:14:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23846; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:14:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ssh (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08696 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:23:38 -0600 Message-Id: <33CCE6AA.C131FC81@wwsi.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:20:10 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad mailing list Subject: 765D first impressions X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I promised ya'll a message after I had used the 765D for a while. I'll do my best not to encourage any screen envy among the group! Since I was most recently using a 760XD, the only difference between that and the 765D is the display size (going up to 13.3" from 12.1"). The resolution (1024x768x64K) is the same, the processor (166MMX) is the same, the hard-drive (3GB) is the same, and so on. I have added a 64MB DIMM to get a usable 88MB (you have to kill 8MB on the motherboard when you add a 64MB DIMM). I'm running NT Workstation. In fact, I just pulled the disk out of the 760XD and slapped it into the 765. Booted it and have been running ever since. The bottom line: The screen is *HUGE*. In fact, it's so large that at first I had to adjust to it! I was used to the 12.1 display and effectively taking in the entire screen with reasonably clear peripheral vision. With the 13.3 display and the distance to it dictated by using the keyboard, there seems to me to be more eye movement now. It didn't take long for me to adjust to it, but it was a surprise that I thought I'd share with you all! With this machine, I am more convinced than ever that I do not need a "desktop" machine any more. The only use I can think of is for high-end graphics requiring better resolution than is possible on an LCD today (true color and more pixels). Other than that, I think this machine is wonderful -- even for eyes that are heading on that age-induced downslope. In short -- the premium Thinkpad. Highly recommended for all the reasons you love Thinkpads, plus an awesome display. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 11:39:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA044807589; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:39:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24685; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:28:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24590; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slipgate.keysolutions.com (kenyee.xensei.com [204.96.52.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24580; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:27:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by slipgate.keysolutions.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 852564D6.005359DA ; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:10:25 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: KEY ENTERPRISE SOLUTIONS From: "Ken K. Yee" To: ssh@wwsi.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <852564D6.0052D5BC.00@slipgate.keysolutions.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:10:02 -0400 Subject: Re: 765D first impressions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Since I was most recently using a 760XD, the only difference between > that and the 765D is the display size (going up to 13.3" from 12.1"). Thanks for the note. I hope you know IBM just dropped the price on a 760XD to $4999...I'm not sure if you can get the difference back, but it might be worth a try. Now, if they could only add USB, Firewire, and AGP support on the docking station for a Voodoo graphics board.... :-) ken From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 11:39:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA044867598; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:39:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24951; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:34:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24856; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:34:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24846; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:34:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ssh (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08843; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:43:09 -0600 Message-Id: <33CCEB3D.C3F403D@wwsi.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:39:41 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "Ken K. Yee" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 765D first impressions X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <852564D6.0052D5BC.00@slipgate.keysolutions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Ken K. Yee wrote: > > Since I was most recently using a 760XD, the only difference between > > that and the 765D is the display size (going up to 13.3" from 12.1"). > > Thanks for the note. I hope you know IBM just dropped the > price on a 760XD to $4999...I'm not sure if you can get the > difference back, but it might be worth a try. Well, I picked that XD up the week after they were announced last October. I don't think there's any hope in getting the difference back! I did notice the price drop, however, and that makes it a real bargain! -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 12:06:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA053619193; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 12:06:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26140; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 12:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 12:04:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26048; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 12:04:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sbroapp01.3-SOFT.com ([207.96.181.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26038; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 12:04:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sbroapp01.3-SOFT.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC91E0.91448560@sbroapp01.3-SOFT.com>; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 12:05:35 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Mariano, Jorge" To: "'Thinkpad Distribution List'" Subject: RE: New Mwave 33.6 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 12:05:34 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Yes and they work great under W95 only. I haven't seen a OS/2 version yet. Any news ??? >---------- >De : Tom Franklin[SMTP:tom.franklin@usa.net] >Date : 15 juillet, 1997 09:39 >A : Thinkpad Distribution List >Objet : New Mwave 33.6 > >Anyone try the new Mwave drivers 2.25? They have 33.6 capability. > > \\|||// > (o) (o) >======.oOO==( )==OOo.======= >|| || >|| Thomas D. Franklin || >|| tom.franklin@usa.net || >|| || >|| .oooO Oooo. || >=======( )===( )======== > \ ( ) / > \_) (_/ > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 16:00:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA120993237; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 16:00:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06834; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 15:59:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 15:55:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06562; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 15:55:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from andrew.cais.com (andrew.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06551; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 15:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cais2.cais.com (rj@cais2.cais.com [199.0.216.200]) by andrew.cais.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/CJKv1.99-CAIS) with SMTP id PAA18084; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 15:54:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 15:54:09 -0400 (EDT) From: rj To: Bryan Daum Cc: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701 Memory & Modem Difficult In-Reply-To: <199707160703.AAA20281@kim.teleport.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu NT 4.0 is a memory hog and several of the apps I run are as well AND I tend to have many of the active concurrently. The booting proces is maybe a tad quicker but not much, and if I just have Hyperterminal active or maybe one other active, again the difference is marginal. The difference becomes noticeable when I have half dozen apps running concurrently. The disk is much less active, no thrashing and switching between apps is noticealby quicker. Was it worth the expense, well I think this will keep me more or less content for maybe a year and then I rethink about a replacement; we'll see. One thing I would like to do before the 16 MB module finds a new home is to run a standard benchmark on both configurations. If anyone knows where I can get a NT 4.0 benchmark program, I'll run the test and report back to the list! Regards. On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Bryan Daum wrote: > Please tell us much do you notice the difference (am I going to hate this > answer?)on the jump to 32MB module? And what system are you running and > etc. especially where do you notice it the most? > > Bryan > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 23:01:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA243828495; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:01:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20507; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:01:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 22:59:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20356; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 22:59:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rheoserver.pse.umass.edu (rheoserver.pse.umass.edu [128.119.70.193]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20346; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 22:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rheo-port.pse.umass.edu (128.119.179.143) by rheoserver.pse.umass.edu (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:02:33 -0400 Received: by rheo-port.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BC923B.E3D5D9E0@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 22:59:18 -0400 Message-Id: <01BC923B.E3D5D9E0@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> From: axel hartmann To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: 701 going flaky ? Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 22:58:21 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu hi there, I am starting to worry about my tp701. I've been noticing two things lately: 1) After waking up after hibernate (Fn-F12), the laptop restores to the point where the screen shows up. Normally until now, the screen would flicker once again and then I could resume working. Now, the screen flickers, is erased, and the laptop goes into a hard reboot: it starts counting RAM and reboots into W95. Could that have something to do with the backup-battery dying slowly? I seem to have noticed my bios-settings changing a couple of times when I ran the normal battery to the ground (emergency-shutdown). 2) What worries me more is that twice I've seen the top half of the screen (Dual Scan) show vertical colored stripes. They were about two to three pixels apart and a regular pattern of colors. The first time it went away the instant I pushed the screen to the back (to get a better view). The second time I switched from W95 (640x480x65k) to Bios (Fn-F1). The stripes disappeared partly, especially everywhere there was no text. This time, slightly twisting the screen (upper right hand corner forward, upper left hand corner backward and vice versa), once each way resolved the problem. Any similar occurences or off to easy serve? axel ...................................................................... Axel Hartmann . Paper Summer : 30 Kellog Ave; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . Voice only : +1 (413) 256 - 6264 . E-Mail : Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . ...................................................................... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 23:08:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA246018915; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:08:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20742; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:08:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:06:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20658; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:06:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20641; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from TP560.usc.edu (comserv-h-48.usc.edu [128.125.224.48]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id UAA06958; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 20:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970716195201.0074a240@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 20:05:56 -0700 To: "richard" From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: larger hard drive for tp 560 ? Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:10 AM 7/16/97 -0400, richard wrote: > I have a Thinkpad 560 with a 1 gb drive and would like to upgrade to >a 2 gb drive. Will non-IBM drives work properly? If so, which ones? Just about any *SLIMLINE* (12.5 mm thickness or less), IDE-type 2.5" notebook drive will do. I put a Toshiba (don't recall model number) in my TP 560 about 2 or 3 months ago. 2.1 GB size--works splendidly. >And will I be able to install a new drive myself? Piece of cake. Just go to the web site to get some diagrams, etc. so you have a good idea of what you're doing. >Will this void the warranty? Yes. Anytime you open up the machine without being an authorized IBM rep, you'll void the warranty. However, the warranty is only 1 year, so unless you just got this thing, you're likely close to the end of the warranty anyway. ------- Randal J. Whittle whittle@usc.edu (213) 740-7775 Director, Electronic Commerce Program Marshall School of Business, University of Southern California From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 16 23:11:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA246809069; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:11:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20972; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:10:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:10:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20887; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20877; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:09:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman [207.155.184.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.5/(97/05/21 3.30)) id XAA11068; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:09:57 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from CRC3.Concentric.net (cnc137034.concentric.net [206.173.215.34]) by newman.concentric.net (8.8.5) id XAA28498; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:09:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707170309.XAA28498@newman.concentric.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:09:48 +0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Thermal Patch... Reply-To: phong@concentric.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has any 760 user downloaded the thermal patch from the IBM FTP site? The file can be found at: ftp://204.146.167.81/pub/pccbbs/mobiles/yptf$040.zip I didn't realize the .vxd files could be loaded through System.ini and haven't noticed any improvement in reducing the amount of heat generated. I was working on a 760XD today and I have to admit that it wasn't even close to being hot. ... patrick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. email: phong@concentric.net Tel: (613) 769-1544 Fax: (613) 728-4063 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 17 00:59:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA280645547; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 00:59:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24511; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 00:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Jul 1997 00:57:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24404; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 00:57:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24394; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 00:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibmtp701c (ppp-207-214-252-7.psdn11.pacbell.net [207.214.252.7]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1+antispam) with SMTP id VAA03707 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 21:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 21:59:45 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC9233.9245B300.eddy@pacbell.net> From: Eddy Lin Reply-To: "eddy@pacbell.net" To: ThinkPad List Subject: RE: TP 701 Memory & Modem Difficulties Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 21:59:36 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It appears that more people are using NT on their 701 than I thought. Just a remark. But I also run NT Server 4.0 on my 701C with 40MB (8+32) of memory. I notice that PCMCIA cards are temperamental in NT. The interrupt that a card uses is determined by NT's PCMCIA driver (I think) at boot time and can't be changed. For example, I have an IBM Token Ring Auto 4/16 PCMCIA and it would change from Int 5 to Int 10 depending what other card I have and which slot the token ring card is in. So my driver would sometimes not load if I switch the slot or change a card. In your case, I would boot NT with the modem in, and check in the Control Panel/PCMCIA and find out what interrupt and etc it uses then install the driver for the modem with that setting (if it needs a driver). And if it doesn't have a driver, try to disable one of the serial ports in BIOS setup (COM1 or COM2) and see if that helps. I don't know exactly how NT will make the card a serial port but I know that the PCMCIA driver will not use Int 3 or 4 if the built-in comm ports are on. Regarding improvement in performance with the memory, in my case, it improved the responsiveness dramatically from 24MB. Overall the system is faster too if the application is more memory dependant than processor dependant. I would recommend the upgrade. I do have a 1.44GB IBM drive instead of the factory 540MB which could also affect the performance a little. But I think the CPU needs to upgraded before the 701C can be an ideal mobile workstation. 486-75 is just not enough for CPU intensive apps. I've looked into the AMD 586-133 upgrade(about $400) but haven't heard any good news from any users (I don't trust ads). Btw, my 32MB module cost me about $300 I think. Eddy Lin -----Original Message----- From: rj [SMTP:rj@cais.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 1997 3:18 PM To: ThinkPad List Subject: TP 701 Memory & Modem Difficulties I just installed a 32MB memory module into my 701, which means I can use the 16MB module as a tooth pick or sell it. It's a IBM P/N:92G7263, 16MB 70ns 3.3V Non-parity. I've been using it for about one year with out difficulties and it has about two of the three years lefton the warranty. Any one interested send email to rj@cais.com with a reasonable offer and we'll work out the details. Now for the modem part of the post. I just got a Hayes Accura 56K PC Card modem and I can not get it to work worth a darn. I called Hays and and they said they don't support NT 4.0. However, many of their customers are running NT and some portion of this group got the modem functioning, or so they said! But they wouldn't discuss it because they don't support NT. Wird! And yes I know its not a wird as running NT on a 701 (which BTW was the reason for the memory upgrade, and it has helped). Has anyone on the list any ideas on how to get this modem to work correctly? Thanks in advance! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 17 01:38:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA292517929; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 01:38:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25521; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 01:38:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Jul 1997 01:37:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25394; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 01:37:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25375; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 01:37:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA09587; Wed, 16 Jul 97 19:37:20 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA10307; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 19:38:18 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199707170538.TAA10307@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: RE: Insight has IBM 133MHz Pentium Notebook (IBT2 To: ttrottier@shl.com (TROTTIER, Tom) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 97 19:38:17 HST Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "TROTTIER, Tom" at Jul 16, 97 10:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > Looking on the web, I found cheaper prices at > http://www.computeresp.com/idx/COMPUTER_SYSTEMS/PORTABLE_COMPUTERS__MEMORY___ACCESSORIES/PENTIUM/SYSTEM/ > Look under the IBM company listings.. - as low as $1099 today for a 365x (without CD, 1379 with CD. If you look at this listing, it is *actually* for CDW, who is at least as reputable as Insight; however, this might have been for a refurb instead of new, you have to be careful with the listings in computeresp.com. I would double-check with CDW directly (www.cdw.com). BTW, I wanted to order the H&A card from Insight; while they only wanted $26 for it, they wanted $20 for shipping to Hawaii. Inflated S&H is why Insight has never been low bidder on the many purchases I've made over the years. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 17 05:36:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA055002210; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 05:36:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA15185; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 05:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Jul 1997 05:33:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA15023; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 05:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cplus.cpis.net (cplus.cpis.net [206.155.217.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA15013; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 05:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wonwiije (ppp86.cpis.net [206.155.217.115]) by cplus.cpis.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09792 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 05:38:37 -0400 Message-Id: <199707170938.FAA09792@cplus.cpis.net> From: "behildre" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: tp701 docking station..where do I get one Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 05:32:20 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Where is the best cheapest fastest place to get a docking station for my tp701. I have to replace mine (it was a loaner) it might not even be called a docking station, it is the little black thing that snaps into place on the back of the computer to allow use of printer, serial port , external monitor etc. thanks. bh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 17 07:00:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA075507222; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 07:00:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA17070; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 06:59:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Jul 1997 06:57:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16931; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 06:57:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from york.interport.net (york.interport.net [199.184.165.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16921; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 06:57:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from richard (usrts1port49.port.net [207.237.104.49]) by york.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA00129; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 06:57:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707171057.GAA00129@york.interport.net> From: "richard" To: "thinkpad" Cc: "Randal Whittle" Subject: re: larger hard drive for tp 560 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 06:57:17 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >> I have a Thinkpad 560 with a 1 gb drive and would like to upgrade to >>a 2 gb drive. Will non-IBM drives work properly? If so, which ones? >Just about any *SLIMLINE* (12.5 mm thickness or less), IDE-type 2.5" >notebook drive will do. I put a Toshiba (don't recall model number) in my >TP 560 about 2 or 3 months ago. 2.1 GB size--works splendidly. The drive I was looking at is a Toshiba (I think that there is only one Toshiba 2.1gb slimline). It's a *lot* less expensive than the IBM. A clueless sounding tech person at IBM claimed that it would not work properly in the TP, which didn't make sense to me. >>And will I be able to install a new drive myself? >Piece of cake. Just go to the web site to get some diagrams, etc. so you >have a good idea of what you're doing. Do you know the address? I haven't been able to find diagrams on the web. Thanks. Now if I could just figure out how to add some L2 cache ... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 17 09:08:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA106914901; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 09:08:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20706; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 09:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Jul 1997 09:04:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20472; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 09:04:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20448; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 09:04:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from uucp1.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp1.UU.NET [192.48.96.39]) id QQcyoy28743; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 09:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw.UUCP by uucp1.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 09:04:29 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailgw.wellspringres.com id AA869155080 Thu, 17 Jul 97 08:58:00 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 97 08:58:00 Message-Id: <9706178691.AA869155080@mailgw.wellspringres.com> To: ThinkPad List , Eddy Lin Subject: Re[2]: TP 701 Memory & Modem Difficulties Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What the 701 really needs is some L2 cache. I had the chance to see my 701 run side-by-side with an AST 486DX/75 with L2 cache. As far as I could tell the only differences were the 701 had 24MB RAM and no L2, the AST had 16MB RAM and L2. I wasn't able to run any quantifiable tests but for the task being run the AST was sprinting and the 701 was out for a Sunday morning jog. Oh well, the 701 is slicker looking! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: TP 701 Memory & Modem Difficulties Author: Eddy Lin at Internet Date: 7/16/97 9:59 PM It appears that more people are using NT on their 701 than I thought. Just a remark. But I also run NT Server 4.0 on my 701C with 40MB (8+32) of memory. I notice that PCMCIA cards are temperamental in NT. The interrupt that a card uses is determined by NT's PCMCIA driver (I think) at boot time and can't be changed. For example, I have an IBM Token Ring Auto 4/16 PCMCIA and it would change from Int 5 to Int 10 depending what other card I have and which slot the token ring card is in. So my driver would sometimes not load if I switch the slot or change a card. In your case, I would boot NT with the modem in, and check in the Control Panel/PCMCIA and find out what interrupt and etc it uses then install the driver for the modem with that setting (if it needs a driver). And if it doesn't have a driver, try to disable one of the serial ports in BIOS setup (COM1 or COM2) and see if that helps. I don't know exactly how NT will make the card a serial port but I know that the PCMCIA driver will not use Int 3 or 4 if the built-in comm ports are on. Regarding improvement in performance with the memory, in my case, it improved the responsiveness dramatically from 24MB. Overall the system is faster too if the application is more memory dependant than processor dependant. I would recommend the upgrade. I do have a 1.44GB IBM drive instead of the factory 540MB which could also affect the performance a little. But I think the CPU needs to upgraded before the 701C can be an ideal mobile workstation. 486-75 is just not enough for CPU intensive apps. I've looked into the AMD 586-133 upgrade(about $400) but haven't heard any good news from any users (I don't trust ads). Btw, my 32MB module cost me about $300 I think. Eddy Lin -----Original Message----- From: rj [SMTP:rj@cais.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 1997 3:18 PM To: ThinkPad List Subject: TP 701 Memory & Modem Difficulties I just installed a 32MB memory module into my 701, which means I can use the 16MB module as a tooth pick or sell it. It's a IBM P/N:92G7263, 16MB 70ns 3.3V Non-parity. I've been using it for about one year with out difficulties and it has about two of the three years lefton the warranty. Any one interested send email to rj@cais.com with a reasonable offer and we'll work out the details. Now for the modem part of the post. I just got a Hayes Accura 56K PC Card modem and I can not get it to work worth a darn. I called Hays and and they said they don't support NT 4.0. However, many of their customers are running NT and some portion of this group got the modem functioning, or so they said! But they wouldn't discuss it because they don't support NT. Wird! And yes I know its not a wird as running NT on a 701 (which BTW was the reason for the memory upgrade, and it has helped). Has anyone on the list any ideas on how to get this modem to work correctly? Thanks in advance! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 17 13:04:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA177569059; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:04:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03451; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:02:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Jul 1997 12:58:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03048; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 12:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03032; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 12:58:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hbprft.usc.edu (hbprft.usc.edu [128.125.37.60]) by usc.edu (8.8.4/8.7.2/usc) with ESMTP id JAA01411 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 09:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camelot.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk (comserv-i-16.usc.edu [128.125.224.88]) by hbprft.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id JAA09259 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 09:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970717175803.0068f974@hbprft.usc.edu> X-Sender: annala@hbprft.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 17:58:03 +0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Subject: 701 going flaky ? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >Subject: 701 going flaky ? >2) What worries me more is that twice I've seen the top half of the >screen (Dual Scan) show vertical colored stripes. They were about two >to three pixels apart and a regular pattern of colors. The first time >it went away the instant I pushed the screen to the back (to get a >better view). The second time I switched from W95 (640x480x65k) to >Bios (Fn-F1). The stripes disappeared partly, especially everywhere >there was no text. This time, slightly twisting the screen (upper right >hand corner forward, upper left hand corner backward and vice versa), >once each way resolved the problem. These are symptoms of loose or broken ribbon cable running between motherboard and LCD display panel. Pretty easy (low cost) to fix. I wouldn't go twisting parts which are not intended to be twisted; this would be inviting other problems to develop. Get it fixed now. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 17 13:07:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA178159228; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:07:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03733; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:06:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:03:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03536; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (sendmail@mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03521; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:03:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sirius.mdm.mke.execpc.com (sirius.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.73.81]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.6) id MAA15605 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 12:03:14 -0500 (CDT) From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Some Thinkpad prices drop by as much as 20% Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 17:03:25 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <33d55055.55463347@mailgate.execpc.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.01/32.397 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Go to http://www.techweb.com/wire/news/jul/0716think.html to read the story. Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay Corp. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 17 17:42:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA271905733; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 17:42:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20639; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 17:41:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Jul 1997 17:39:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20433; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 17:39:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wtalkmke.corp.mei.com (wtalkmke.corp.mei.com [151.186.47.180]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20394; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 17:39:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by wtalkmke.corp.mei.com (1.40.112.8/16.2-WT4.1) id AA095305939; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:45:39 -0500 Received: by ATTMAIL; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:36:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:36:06 -0500 Subject: Mwave in other countries? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <"970717214452Z.WT09498. 0*/PN=Nick.Rushizky/O=LNGW/PRMD=MEI/ADMD=ATTMAIL/C=US/"@MHS> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p1)/MIME Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This has all the potential to be a really juicy question.. The latest verson of the Mwave software lets you choose what country you are in, via one of the icons in the Mwave Thinkpad group that it creates. When you choose a country, it tells you that 'You should berify that the country type of the Data Access Arrangement (DAA) attached to your computer matches the selected country' and that you should restart any telephony programs. One of my more adventurous users, having just switched from a Mac to a Thinkpad (the good side of the Force wins again :-) ) and from Groupwise to Notes, tried to use his 760 in Germany. He's very familiar with getting the phone line to work, but after making the Mwave switch to Germany, and getting the above message, he thought, 'Ok, this DAA business means do I have the right kind of connection to their phone lines' and proceeded. However, Notes didn't detect the modem at all. I don't think that this is a Note problem (ok, I'm praying it isn't) but rather Mwave being subtle and saying that it doesn't speak German for some reason. Is there some sort of software or configuration that I just have not found on the IBM website yet? I should point out that when the user switches it back to US and Canada settings, and dials in back here, it works just fine.. so the country choosing ability seems to be the culprit. I just need some ideas on how to get this sucker to work! TIA, Nick Rushizky From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 17 18:22:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA283578142; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:22:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21940; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:21:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:21:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21855; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (sendmail@mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21845; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:20:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from algol.mdm.mke.execpc.com (algol.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.72.197]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.6) id RAA01097; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 17:20:34 -0500 (CDT) From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: "Mariano, Jorge" Cc: "'Thinkpad Distribution List'" Subject: Re: New Mwave 33.6 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 22:20:48 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <33d59a84.6460089@mailgate.execpc.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.01/32.397 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 16 Jul 1997 12:05:34 -0400, you wrote: >Yes and they work great under W95 only. I haven't seen a OS/2 version >yet. Any news ??? >>---------- Someone just mentioned to me that the new drivers *don't* work well with WinFax Pro 8.0 (the latest one). Can anyone vouch for that? Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay Corp. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 17 18:45:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA290329535; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:45:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22748; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:44:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:42:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22637; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:42:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22626; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:42:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26525; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 08:42:26 +1000 (EST) From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) id IAA24286; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 08:42:25 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 08:42:19 +1000 (EST) To: Nick.Rushizky@mail.mei.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mwave in other countries? In-Reply-To: <"970717214452Z.WT09498. 0*/PN=Nick.Rushizky/O=LNGW/PRMD=MEI/ADMD=ATTMAIL/C=US/"@MHS> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 17 Jul 1997 Nick.Rushizky@mail.mei.com wrote: > The latest verson of the Mwave software lets you choose what country you are >in, via one of the icons in the Mwave Thinkpad group that it creates. When you >choose a country it tells you that 'You should berify that the country type of > the Data Access Arrangement (DAA) attached to your computer matches the > selected country' and that you should restart any telephony programs. > the 'country select' has been coming with mwave from the beginnning as far as i know, at least i got it with my tp755ce. >One of my more adventurous users having just switched from a Mac to a Thinkpad >(the good side of the Force wins again :-) ) and from Groupwise to Notes tried > to use his 760 in Germany. He's very familiar with getting the phone line to > work, but after making the Mwave switch to Germany, and getting the above > message, he thought, 'Ok, this DAA business means do I have the right kind of > connection to their phone lines' and proceeded. However, Notes didn't detect > the modem at all. > there is a daa kit. in the u.s. the daa is built in - you just plug your phone rj-11 (or whatever) into the side of the tp. if you are overseas, your thinkpad comes without this - instead you get a little kit - a dojiggy that fits where the in-built mwave would otherwise fit, with a circular - not rj-11 - female plug where the rj-11 would be on the side of the tp, a short cable that plugs into this at one end and the 'daa kit' at the other. daa kit at the other end has an rj-11 female for your phone line. in theory i believe the kit does two things a) provides better protection against sending 240 volts - as most of the world is - up the phone line to the linesperson hanging off the telephone pole and b) reduces the likelihood of interference with phone system by a modem. [some argue the regulations merely generate revenue for state run telephone companies.] in any case, there are usually heavy fines attached to being caught using an unapproved modem in another country - in australia the fine is $10,000, though i don't know what the jail term is. i suspect that the mwave software itself does not allow you to select a non-u.s. country unless you have a daa kit attached - successfully select - but that would be a pure guess. ... because the country choice should take care of all the modem init commands for each country without problem. the above assumes your user did not have a daa kit, but just plugged the phone via an adapter into the u.s. inbuilt mwave socket. the biggest non-software problem with mwave is bad physical connections, so it could be that your user simply did not have his phone connections snug enough. every time i conect my daa to my tp, i first do the 'mwave quick test' for modem. if you hear the dial tone, almost always you are set to go. other- wise you can spend a good deal of time wondering why you are not getting through. daa kits are not that expensive, they are small and light, and probably the best solution. if you get the one apporoved for germany, it could probably be used anywhere because germany i believe has the highest standards in this area. may just need some phone adapters for different places. now, if i could just get the telnet that came with wn95 to stop hanging when i connect in via the mwave i'd be set ... suggestions welcome. [it hangs if you accidentally hit the control key by itself - not hard to do given its location below the shift key.] regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 17 21:36:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA037179785; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:36:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26775; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:34:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26592; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:34:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26576; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:34:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA27939; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <970717213333_-526291689@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: marc@disquiet.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701c --> Pentium Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Marc, We perform the upgrade on the TP701 systems. For us there has been no overheating or software conflicts. As for the IBM warranty, you will lose that and there is no getting around it. The TP701 can be upgraded to the AMD 5X86/100mhz processor which is the response equivalent of the Pentium 75, it is as fast. The amount of improvement depends on what speed your system is running at now. Please contact me or visit our website if you need any other information. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM 800-737-7693 X102 714-418-0113 X102 Tel 714-418-0117 Fax Up to 3GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: 701c --> Pentium Date: 97-07-16 08:08:05 EDT From: marc@disquiet.com (Marc Weidenbaum) To:thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Anyone upgraded their 701C 486 to a Pentium? I've been reading about a $399 upgrade, but am concerned about: (a) overheating, (b) software/hardware compatability, (c) voiding my IBM warranty, and (d) whether a 75mhz (or is it 100?) Pentium is really that big an improvement over the 486. -mrc --- Marc Weidenbaum mailto:marc@disquiet.com http://www.disquiet.com/ http://www.citysearch7.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 17 21:36:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA037189785; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:36:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26784; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:35:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:34:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26558; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26548; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:33:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA21660; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:33:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:33:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <970717213306_-558128570@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: comreq@gte.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701C Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Bob, The TP701 can be upgraded to the AMD 5X86 processor. This will give your system Pentium equivalent response. There are also HdDs through 2.1gb and External HDD Shells that will let you use the HDD taken out of the system during upgrade. Please contact me or visit our website if you have any other questions or needs. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM 800-737-7693 X102 714-418-0113 X102 Tel 714-418-0117 Fax Up to 3GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: ThinkPad 701C Date: 97-07-16 06:58:26 EDT From: comreq@gte.net (Bob) Reply-to: comreq@gte.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Is it possible to upgrade the processor of a 701C? What about a software upgrade for the modem? Thank you, Bob. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 17 21:37:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA037469832; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:37:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26882; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:34:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26693; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:34:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout20.mail.aol.com (emout20.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26650; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:34:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA06925; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <970717213357_-923396153@emout20.mail.aol.com> To: rpritz@interport.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: larger hard drive for tp 560 ? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Richard, The TP560 can take the 2.1gb drive. It can take a non-IBM drive. We have been placing Toshiba drives in IBM systems for years. We have complete upgrade kits that will walk you through the install and comes with everything you need, including install instructions. You will lose the IBM warranty on the drive, but you will pick up our warranty. We support all upgrades we sell. Please contact me or visit our website if you have any other needs. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM 800-737-7693 X102 714-418-0113 X102 Tel 714-418-0117 Fax Up to 3GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: larger hard drive for tp 560 ? Date: 97-07-16 12:54:58 EDT From: rpritz@interport.net (richard) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu I have a Thinkpad 560 with a 1 gb drive and would like to upgrade to a 2 gb drive. Will non-IBM drives work properly? If so, which ones? And will I be able to install a new drive myself? Will this void the warranty? thanks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 18 00:32:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA083660351; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 00:32:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01606; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 00:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Jul 1997 00:27:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01452; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 00:27:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01427; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 00:27:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from caiman (slip202-135-73-156.sy.au.ibm.net [202.135.73.156]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id EAA58448 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 04:27:30 GMT Message-Id: <199707180427.EAA58448@out1.ibm.net> From: "Adam Britton" To: Subject: Re: Mwave in other countries? Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:16:34 +0930 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > From: Alden S Klovdahl > Date: Friday, July 18, 1997 08:12 > > daa kits are not that expensive, they are small and light, and probably > the best solution. if you get the one apporoved for germany, it could > probably be used anywhere because germany i believe has the highest > standards in this area. may just need some phone adapters for different > places. I bought my TP in the UK for use in Australia, and made a considerable number of enquiries about this. In the end, I decided it was better to go with a PCMCIA modem. The DAA kits can be expensive if you travel to several different countries (i.e. you need several) and I didn't fancy ending up with zillions of plastic jobbies to lose. I also couldn't get a clear answer from anyone on whether the MWAVE modem would still work if MWAVE was also attempting to play a sound. Someone said "No, because the modem uses all available MWAVE resources", someone else said "Yes, because the modem does not use all available MWAVE resources". *sigh* I asked my iguana and he reckoned I should go with PCMCIA, so I did. I ended up buying a TDK DF2814 Global Class international modem, and it works great - although the version I bought only goes up to 28.8 but that's plenty fast enough for my needs. It covers (and is licenced for) at least as many countries as the DAA kits, and is a cheaper overall solution. As I bought it just after the computer (in the US actually) I can't easily say whether it was responsible for the occasional crash that I get (either the dreaded MMTASK or RNAAPP) but everything seems fairly stable at least. I did have some conflicts installing a SCSI card, but that's another story. The modem comes with a variety of telephone adaptors for different countries (can't escape those plasticky bits) and a list of recommended outlets for more esoteric ones. The only thing that concerns me about it is the connection between phone lead and card is a bit thin and flimsey, but that's the same with all PCMCIA cards. Other than that, I would recommend it. Adam Britton From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 18 00:32:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA083810362; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 00:32:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01608; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 00:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Jul 1997 00:27:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01451; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 00:27:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01418; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 00:27:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from caiman (slip202-135-73-156.sy.au.ibm.net [202.135.73.156]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id EAA178794 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 04:27:34 GMT Message-Id: <199707180427.EAA178794@out1.ibm.net> From: "Adam Britton" To: Subject: mwave (I think) problem Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 11:43:39 +0930 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In the continuing saga of the "minor but irritating" Thinkpad problems, may I present my mwave annoyance. At least, I think it's mwave. Relatively frequently (about once or twice a week) the computer crashes in the following manner. I can be working away (on Excel, Word, WebEdit or Photoshop usually - I don't think the application matters), sometimes reading what I've just written (i.e. no keyboard or mouse activity), other times actively typing, and the speakers suddenly start to emit a long, sustained note. It's always the same frequency. As soon as this happens, samples are no longer played. In fact, when the computer attempts to play a sample it pauses for about 30 seconds. So, I try and close a program, and everything locks up for a while as it attempts to play the "close program" wave. Usually, I can close one program and any others running then lock up. Hitting CTRL+ALT+DEL brings up the task manager window (eventually) which tells me most things are [not responding]. Sometimes the task manager shows me that "mmwave", "rnaapp", "mwsw95" or "POp95" are not responding - or at least present when they are normally absent. Is one of these the culprit? I can never close down Win95 normally from this state, eventually being told that the whole system has stopped responding. A soft reset is required (sometimes a hard one). When Win95 reloads, it starts to play the monotonous note again, but this disappears shortly before it plays the "Start Win95" sample. I hope I've decribed the problem reasonably well. Does anyone have any idea what's going on? Adam Britton From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 18 01:17:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA095553030; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 01:17:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02536; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 01:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Jul 1997 01:14:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02439; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 01:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02429; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 01:14:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA13238; Thu, 17 Jul 97 19:14:37 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA10570; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 19:15:35 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199707180515.TAA10570@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: 701c --> Pentium To: PEPSales@aol.com Date: Thu, 17 Jul 97 19:15:33 HST Cc: marc@disquiet.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <970717213333_-526291689@emout07.mail.aol.com>; from "PEPSales@aol.com" at Jul 17, 97 9:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > that and there is no getting around it. The TP701 can be upgraded to the AMD > 5X86/100mhz processor which is the response equivalent of the Pentium 75, it ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This implies that an AMD586-100 upgraded 701 will be as fast as a native P75 laptop. This is likely false. The AMD is a super chip, but anyone interested in big systemic results will likely be disappointed. Since PEPsales has been promising real-world benchmark comparisons for a while without delivering, I suggest interested readers look at the ZD results posted at www.gainbery.com. Ignore CPU-specific benchmarks (like CPUmark), on which the AMD does very well, and look at systemic results like Winstone. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 18 09:57:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA220024234; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:57:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29975; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:56:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:55:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29843; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from germany.it.earthlink.net (germany-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.123]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29833; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:55:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pool001-max3.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool001-max3.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.8.76]) by germany.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA00349; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 06:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707181354.GAA00349@germany.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "David Ross" , "PEPSales@aol.com" Cc: "marc@disquiet.com" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 18 Jul 97 06:56:21 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701c --> Pentium Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 17 Jul 97 19:15:33 HST, David Ross wrote: >> that and there is no getting around it. The TP701 can be upgraded to the AMD >> 5X86/100mhz processor which is the response equivalent of the Pentium 75, it > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >This implies that an AMD586-100 upgraded 701 will be as fast as a native >P75 laptop. This is likely false. The AMD is a super chip, but anyone >interested in big systemic results will likely be disappointed. Since >PEPsales has been promising real-world benchmark comparisons for a while >without delivering, I suggest interested readers look at the ZD >results posted at www.gainbery.com. Ignore CPU-specific benchmarks >(like CPUmark), on which the AMD does very well, and look at systemic >results like Winstone. > >- David > > And the other thing is that the AMD 586-100 is only 32 bit, not 64 like the Pentium I think, plus the Pentium has the 16K cache. Doesn't the AMD have only 8K? It seems that since the AMD is still only 32 bit, it wouldn't have as much an impact on total system performance as the Pentium. Am I correct everyone? Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 18 10:07:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA223184878; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:07:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00865; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:06:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00747; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:06:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00734; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:06:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA25359 for ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:06:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:06:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <970718100604_-1845181924@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu Subject: OS/2 2.1 on a ThinkPad 710T PenBased Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, got some problems. Wanna install those OS/2 2.1 on these machine. Doesn't work Can't find "country.sys" on Disk1. It's naturally in the root. Any ideas ?? Thanks a lot Mike From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 18 16:44:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA038808695; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 16:44:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21049; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 16:43:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Jul 1997 16:40:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20841; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 16:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.152.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20831; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 16:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcneelybn_1 (bnm.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.150.16]) by cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id QAA28095; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 16:40:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970718163842.00f6cd00@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov> X-Sender: bnm@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 16:38:42 -0400 To: From: bnm@ornl.gov (Brooks McNeely) Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1 on a ThinkPad 710T PenBased Cc: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <970718100604_-1845181924@emout19.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:06 AM 7/18/97 -0400, DietrichWT@aol.com wrote: >Hi, got some problems. >Wanna install those OS/2 2.1 on these machine. Doesn't work >Can't find "country.sys" on Disk1. It's naturally in the root. > >Any ideas ?? > >Thanks a lot >Mike > This is a common error that, in general, doesn't have anything to do with country.sys. There should be some FAQ's at some OS/2 sites that address this issue. Country.sys is one of the 1st files copied at some point in the installation, and something about the configuration at this point has the installation program confused. Is this an total diskette installation or a CD installation (with two diskettes to bootstrap the CD install)? Most likely there are some special device drivers specific to the 710T that must be copied onto the install disk(s) to complete the installation. Usually you make a copy of the install disks 0 & 1 (maybe 2 also), and copy the replacement drivers onto the copies. Some drivers specific to hardware you're _not_ using may have to be removed to make room. There was a Pen-based version of OS/2, but I don't know whether it got merged with Warp or what happened to it. Maybe there is a file at an IBM ftp site that might help. Sorry, I'm not able to offer any detailed help. Good luck. Brooks Brooks McNeely Lockheed Martin Energy Systems, Inc. E-mail: bnm@ornl.gov (work) brooks_mcneely@ibm.net (non-work) Phone: 423-574-4612 (voice) 423-576-6608 (fax) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 18 18:57:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA075496664; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 18:57:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25420; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 18:57:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Jul 1997 18:53:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25281; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 18:53:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25271; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 18:53:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA16210; Fri, 18 Jul 97 12:53:07 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA10728; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:54:05 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199707182254.MAA10728@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: 701c --> Pentium To: pkhoury@earthlink.net Date: Fri, 18 Jul 97 12:54:04 HST Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, PEPSales@aol.com, marc@disquiet.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199707181354.GAA00349@germany.it.earthlink.net>; from "Paul Khoury" at Jul 18, 97 6:56 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > And the other thing is that the AMD 586-100 is only 32 bit, not 64 like the Pentium I think, plus the Pentium > has the 16K cache. Doesn't the AMD have only 8K? It seems that since the AMD is still only 32 bit, it The AMD does have 16K, and it is the faster write-back (for boards that support this) instead of write-through cache. While the chip is only 32 bit, it has some optimizations which make it not too much slower than a P75, at least from the standpoint of pure CPU ops. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jul 19 09:51:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA291220288; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 09:51:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24166; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 09:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Jul 1997 09:47:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24034; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 09:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24024; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 09:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tom-s-laptop (slip129-37-231-141.co.us.ibm.net [129.37.231.141]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA169628; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 13:47:02 GMT Message-Id: <199707191347.NAA169628@out1.ibm.net> Reply-To: From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Stan Boland" Cc: "Thinkpad Distribution List" Subject: Re: mwave release Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 07:41:26 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The files are mwv95225a-c.exe or you can go to their files page and click on the icon: http://www.us.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/dsktw95.html ---------- > Subject: mwave release > Date: Friday, July 18, 1997 7:43 PM > > Could you tell me which files I should download for my 755CE TP with Windows > 3.1. I havn't had the nerve to try to upgrade to 95 yet. Thanks in advance > for any info you could give From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jul 19 12:32:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA029219921; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:32:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27122; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:29:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26978; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:29:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26968; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:29:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id MAA10787; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <970719122839_27473110@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: pkhoury@earthlink.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701c --> Pentium Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Paul, The AMD has 16k cache. This helps out a lot. But you are correct that the processor is running on the 597 32 bit bus. But, if you are looking for faster performance without the expense of a new system, this is really the only way to go. Of course, the decision to upgrade is always a personal one. We have found that our clients that have had the upgrade performed on their system love it to death. If anyone is interested in more information or pricing, please contact me. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM 800-737-7693 X102 714-418-0113 X102 Tel 714-418-0117 Fax Up to 3GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: 701c --> Pentium Date: 97-07-18 14:08:53 EDT From: pkhoury@earthlink.net (Paul Khoury) Reply-to: pkhoury@earthlink.net (Paul Khoury) To: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross), PEPSales@aol.com (PEPSales@aol.com) CC: marc@disquiet.com (marc@disquiet.com), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (thinkpad@cs.utk.edu) On Thu, 17 Jul 97 19:15:33 HST, David Ross wrote: >> that and there is no getting around it. The TP701 can be upgraded to the AMD >> 5X86/100mhz processor which is the response equivalent of the Pentium 75, it > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >This implies that an AMD586-100 upgraded 701 will be as fast as a native >P75 laptop. This is likely false. The AMD is a super chip, but anyone >interested in big systemic results will likely be disappointed. Since >PEPsales has been promising real-world benchmark comparisons for a while >without delivering, I suggest interested readers look at the ZD >results posted at www.gainbery.com. Ignore CPU-specific benchmarks >(like CPUmark), on which the AMD does very well, and look at systemic >results like Winstone. > >- David > > And the other thing is that the AMD 586-100 is only 32 bit, not 64 like the Pentium I think, plus the Pentium has the 16K cache. Doesn't the AMD have only 8K? It seems that since the AMD is still only 32 bit, it wouldn't have as much an impact on total system performance as the Pentium. Am I correct everyone? Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jul 19 12:59:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA035731596; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:59:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27613; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:57:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27525; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:57:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from germany.it.earthlink.net (germany-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.123]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27514; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pool036-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool036-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.7.186]) by germany.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA18474 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 09:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707191657.JAA18474@germany.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 19 Jul 97 09:58:58 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Broken 701 Update Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, now I have an offer from the exec. cust. rel. person at IBM: Easyserve will again try to repair my machine, this time, the display and broken backlight, front and back bezels, also possibly the keyboard, and maybe the internal speaker and power in jack, and the good thing is he said he's going to pick up the tab! That's right, from his own pocket (or at least that's what he said!)! I don't know if he does this more than this time, but he'd have to have another income or something to spend $1,000-$2,000 on cases like that, especially since those people there have TONS of cases (which is why this is the second person on my case; the first did not respond for 1.5-2 weeks, and I called up the office of General Manager of the ENTIRE IBM PC Co.). Hopefully Easyserver won't screw up this time!! Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jul 19 13:43:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA046654222; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 13:43:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28697; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 13:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Jul 1997 13:41:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28600; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 13:41:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slipgate.keysolutions.com (kenyee.xensei.com [204.96.52.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28580; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 13:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by slipgate.keysolutions.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 852564D9.005FC404 ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 13:26:01 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: KEY ENTERPRISE SOLUTIONS From: "Ken K. Yee" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <852564D9.005F65EA.00@slipgate.keysolutions.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 13:25:42 -0400 Subject: good Easyserve experience Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu While we're on the subject of Easyserve, I just had my first service. They key lettering on my 760CD was getting worn off. They next day fedex'd a box to me (you've really got to see the excellent design of this box if you haven't seen it), I sent it back, then got it back w/ a new keyboard, upgraded BIOS, and new memory upgrade door (the original door kept unlocking by itself) on Wednesday morning (mailed it out on Saturday using the prepaid Fedex shipping label they sent me). Definitely better service than I've ever heard from other laptop companies... ken From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jul 20 05:22:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA272980526; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 05:22:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22290; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 05:21:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Jul 1997 05:19:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21163; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 05:19:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21082; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 05:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA18451; Sat, 19 Jul 97 23:18:57 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA15416; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 23:19:54 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199707200919.XAA15416@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: 701c --> Pentium To: PEPSales@aol.com Date: Sat, 19 Jul 97 23:19:52 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, ross@math.hawaii.edu In-Reply-To: <970719122842_-1207909418@emout12.mail.aol.com>; from "PEPSales@aol.com" at Jul 19, 97 12:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I must disagree on one of your points. It is true that the AMD is not a true > Pentium, but in our tests, it benchmarks out as fast as a Pentium 75. I do not believe that an AMD586 at 100 mhz (i.e., on a 25mhz system) will meet a P75 even on non-systemic benchmarks. Several people on this list have seen a document I produced detailing my own experiences upgrading a desktop machine to this chip, together with several before-and-after benchmarks (some well-known, some based on real-world apps). The upgrade was definitely worthwhile for me, but on my desktop only cost me $40, and I was upgrading from a clock-doubled machine (instead of clock-tripled like the 701C). You say you don't like WInstone, but you don't say what benchmarks you use instead. - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jul 20 13:59:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA090231587; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 13:59:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02837; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 13:59:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Jul 1997 13:54:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02715; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 13:54:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from genesis.blueridge.net (genesis.blueridge.net [205.152.121.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02705; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 13:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jww.blueridge.net (rc-104.blueridge.net [205.152.121.104]) by genesis.blueridge.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20053 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 12:55:11 -0400 Message-Id: <33D251A9.17C9A3AD@blueridge.net> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 13:58:02 -0400 From: Will Wilson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: 750P X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199707200919.XAA15416@tarski.hawaii.edu> <33D207A6.C197903@blueridge.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I've been reading this list for several days and have found very little about the 750. I need some help. I know it's an old machine, (according to Support at IBM, a very old machine) but I only want to use it for word processing, faxing, and hopefully add it to the peer-to-peer network of my two desktop PCs. I've already got a H&A combo pcmcia. My problem is that I bought it from an auction and it came with no owner's manual, and it needs a battery. IBM wants $174 for the manual and $199 for a battery. Not a li-ion, mind you, just a regular battery. I've found batteries for as little as $112, which still seems too much, but "you gotta do what you gotta do." If anyone can help me find an owner's manual at a reasonable price I would really appreciate it. Thanks for reading, Will jww@blueridge.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jul 20 16:56:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA132932167; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 16:56:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06456; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 16:55:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Jul 1997 16:53:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06345; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 16:53:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rheoserver.pse.umass.edu (rheoserver.pse.umass.edu [128.119.70.193]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06335; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 16:53:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rheo-port.pse.umass.edu (128.119.179.20) by rheoserver.pse.umass.edu (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 16:56:39 -0400 Received: by rheo-port.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BC952D.6CE8E300@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu>; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 16:53:19 -0400 Message-Id: <01BC952D.6CE8E300@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> From: axel hartmann To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: flame: PEPSales, 701c --> Pentium Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 16:52:14 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello David, Thank you for your persistence in pointing out the facts that are still missing from PEP's postings. I've been on this list for well over a year now. PEP keeps on butting in with advertisements that are at least borderline spam. There are plenty of other companies out there doing the same sort of upgrades which don't advertise on this list. What makes PEP annoying is that they are not at the technical level that this list is generally at. They, or Michael, are not responding to very clear requests to back their claims. Thank you, David, for not giving up! PEP, why don't you answer David's questions? It would make my life easier as well, because I really don't want to have to figure out how spam filters work with Microsoft Exchange... axel On Saturday, July 19, 1997 19:19, David Ross[SMTP:ross@math.hawaii.edu] wrote: >> I must disagree on one of your points. It is true that the AMD is not a true >> Pentium, but in our tests, it benchmarks out as fast as a Pentium 75. > >I do not believe that an AMD586 at 100 mhz (i.e., on a 25mhz system) >will meet a P75 even on non-systemic benchmarks. > >Several people on this list have seen a document I produced detailing my >own experiences upgrading a desktop machine to this chip, together with several >before-and-after benchmarks (some well-known, some based on real-world >apps). The upgrade was definitely worthwhile for me, but on my desktop >only cost me $40, and I was upgrading from a clock-doubled machine >(instead of clock-tripled like the 701C). > >You say you don't like WInstone, but you don't say what benchmarks you >use instead. > >- David R. > > > ...................................................................... Axel Hartmann . Paper Summer : 30 Kellog Ave; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . Voice only : +1 (413) 256 - 6264 . E-Mail : Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . ...................................................................... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jul 20 17:22:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA139383756; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 17:22:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07292; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 17:22:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Jul 1997 17:20:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07202; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 17:20:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from torgo.punk.net (torgo.punk.net [207.114.150.54]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07182; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 17:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sparker@localhost) by torgo.punk.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA18918; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 14:19:29 -0700 Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 14:19:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: David Ross Cc: PEPSales@aol.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701c --> Pentium In-Reply-To: <199707200919.XAA15416@tarski.hawaii.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 19 Jul 1997, David Ross wrote: > before-and-after benchmarks (some well-known, some based on real-world > apps). The upgrade was definitely worthwhile for me, but on my desktop > only cost me $40, and I was upgrading from a clock-doubled machine > (instead of clock-tripled like the 701C). > > You say you don't like WInstone, but you don't say what benchmarks you > use instead. What do you want to bet it is something relatively meaningless that fits completely in L1 cache? Landmark perhaps? =) Hey Pepsales, how about Winbench numbers, before and after? Or are you afraid of that? If it is so damn great stick the numbers on your web page for all to see. ============================================================================ ==== Steve Parker ==== San Luis Obispo, CA ==== Multi-OS & Multitasking ==== ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jul 20 17:57:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA147415863; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 17:57:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08230; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 17:57:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Jul 1997 17:55:11 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08120; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 17:55:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id RAA14245; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 17:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cplus.cpis.net (cplus.cpis.net [206.155.217.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07358; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 17:23:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wonwiije (ppp18.cpis.net [206.155.217.47]) by cplus.cpis.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA14857 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 17:28:57 -0400 Message-Id: <199707202128.RAA14857@cplus.cpis.net> From: "behildre" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: multiport for 701 Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 17:22:25 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I found the multiport on the IBM website.....the price is 491 bucks....are they for real? all I want is the skinny little thing that goes on the back of my 701 so I can print and use an accessory or two. any other places to check out? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jul 20 21:11:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA190677471; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 21:11:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12696; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 21:10:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Jul 1997 21:09:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12583; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 21:09:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.citylinq.net ([207.173.198.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12572; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 21:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pele.wolfenet.com ([207.173.198.28]) by mail01.citylinq.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0122 ID# 201-33923U500L100S0) with SMTP id AAA163; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 18:08:44 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970720180929.006b735c@mail01.citylinq.net> X-Sender: peterl@mail01.citylinq.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 18:09:29 -0700 To: axel hartmann , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" From: Peter Lewis Subject: Re: flame: PEPSales, 701c --> Pentium In-Reply-To: <01BC952D.6CE8E300@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well said. In addition, let's not forget the greeting/rules we all received upon subscribing to this list, from which I quote the following excerpt verbatim: QUOTE: >>> NOTE <<< In general, advertising of commercial products or services is prohibited on this list. UNQUOTE At 04:52 PM 7/20/97 -0400, axel hartmann wrote: >Hello David, > >Thank you for your persistence in pointing out the facts that >are still missing from PEP's postings. I've been on this list >for well over a year now. >PEP keeps on butting in with advertisements that are at least >borderline spam. There are plenty of other companies out there >doing the same sort of upgrades which don't advertise on this >list. What makes PEP annoying is that they are not at the technical >level that this list is generally at. They, or Michael, are not >responding to very clear requests to back their claims. > >Thank you, David, for not giving up! > >PEP, why don't you answer David's questions? It would make >my life easier as well, because I really don't want to have to >figure out how spam filters work with Microsoft Exchange... > >axel > > > > >On Saturday, July 19, 1997 19:19, David Ross[SMTP:ross@math.hawaii.edu] wrote: >>> I must disagree on one of your points. It is true that the AMD is not a true >>> Pentium, but in our tests, it benchmarks out as fast as a Pentium 75. >> >>I do not believe that an AMD586 at 100 mhz (i.e., on a 25mhz system) >>will meet a P75 even on non-systemic benchmarks. >> >>Several people on this list have seen a document I produced detailing my >>own experiences upgrading a desktop machine to this chip, together with several >>before-and-after benchmarks (some well-known, some based on real-world >>apps). The upgrade was definitely worthwhile for me, but on my desktop >>only cost me $40, and I was upgrading from a clock-doubled machine >>(instead of clock-tripled like the 701C). >> >>You say you don't like WInstone, but you don't say what benchmarks you >>use instead. >> >>- David R. >> >> >> > > >...................................................................... > Axel Hartmann . > Paper Summer : 30 Kellog Ave; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . > Voice only : +1 (413) 256 - 6264 . > E-Mail : Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . > Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . >...................................................................... > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 21 08:13:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA049497190; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:13:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16535; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:10:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16294; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16283; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ing_p120 [207.135.132.2] by mail.xmission.com with smtp (Exim 1.62 #3) id 0wqHIF-00069K-00; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 06:10:23 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970721060759.006aabbc@pop3.ibm.net> X-Sender: chkuo@pop3.ibm.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 06:07:59 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: ChinMing Kuo Subject: list archive or digest form Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is this list archived somewhere? How about Digest form? cmk@ibm.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 21 10:57:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA089537021; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 10:57:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24727; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 10:56:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Jul 1997 10:48:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24218; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 10:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (sendmail@mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24207; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 10:48:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from xenotarsosaurus.mdm.mke.execpc.com (xenotarsosaurus.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.69.175]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.6) id JAA06107 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 09:48:34 -0500 (CDT) From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Article on ThinkPad glut Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 14:48:37 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <33d676bb.54066197@mailgate.execpc.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.01/32.397 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu See Computer Reseller News article at http://www.techweb.com/wire/news/jul/0720glut.html Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay Corp. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 21 12:11:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA110841515; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:11:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29306; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:11:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:05:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28886; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net (relay-14.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.138]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28854; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:05:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from textan.demon.co.uk ([194.222.92.160]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa0914756; 19 Jul 97 19:54 BST To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: thinkpad software re-install Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 18:49:35 GMT Message-Id: <33d30ad5.10530914@post.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.326 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've just had to format my hard-drive to get rid of a lot of problems in = win95. The problem is that now the machine will not boot of the hard-drive. I've tried format c: /s, and the system = files are transferred correctly. But when I reboot the machine all I get after the password is a flashing _ character. If I = go into bios and make the floppy drive the primary=20 boot device then the machine boots from the a: drive ok and you can = switch to the c: and look at the contents ok. Is there a special utility I have to use to get the machine to recognise = the hard-drive as a bootable device. When the bios is set to look at the hard drive it goes straight to the flashing _ = thing without the hd icon on the lcd ever coming on. I've tried dos 6.2 as well as fat16 and fat32 versions of win95b and all = exhibit the same problem.=20 Any help greatly appreciated Matt@textan.demon.co.uk From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 21 12:42:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA119433347; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:42:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01494; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:38:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01323; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:38:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01311; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:38:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com (ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.25]) by docws001.shl.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA31142 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:23:49 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC95D3.1CF68F90@ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com>; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:39:21 -0400 Message-Id: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" , "matt@textan.demon.co.uk" Subject: RE: thinkpad software re-install Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:35:19 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 24 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Have you used FDISK to set the C partition to Active? Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com ---------- From: matt@textan.demon.co.uk[SMTP:matt@textan.demon.co.uk] Sent: 1997 July 19 - Saturday 14:50 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: thinkpad software re-install I've just had to format my hard-drive to get rid of a lot of problems in win95. The problem is that now the machine will not boot of the hard-drive. I've tried format c: /s, and the system files are transferred correctly. But when I reboot the machine all I get after the password is a flashing _ character. If I go into bios and make the floppy drive the primary boot device then the machine boots from the a: drive ok and you can switch to the c: and look at the contents ok. Is there a special utility I have to use to get the machine to recognise the hard-drive as a bootable device. When the bios is set to look at the hard drive it goes straight to the flashing _ thing without the hd icon on the lcd ever coming on. I've tried dos 6.2 as well as fat16 and fat32 versions of win95b and all exhibit the same problem. Any help greatly appreciated Matt@textan.demon.co.uk From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 21 14:31:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA152269905; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 14:31:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07324; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 14:31:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Jul 1997 14:28:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07123; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 14:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from upsmot03.msn.com (upsmot03.msn.com [204.95.110.85]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07113; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 14:28:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from upmajb02.msn.com (upmajb02.msn.com [204.95.110.74]) by upsmot03.msn.com (8.6.8.1/Configuration 4) with SMTP id LAA06726 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:23:38 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 97 18:23:34 UT From: "Laurence Larsen" <71420666@msn.com> Message-Id: To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: IBM PCMCIA SCSI Card and Win 95 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I recently bought a PCMCIA SCSI card ("new"....although the most recent date on the driver disk is 1994!). Part number 04H7613. I have scoured the IBM sites on the Internet and Compuserve and am left empty handed looking for the dreaded Win 95 .INF file. Does anyone know if one was written? If not, is there a workaround so my 701c and 560 can share my scanner? Amazingly, the same thing happened with my Iosoft PCMCIA SCSI card when I switched to Win 95 two years ago. They said "Sorry we won't support it in Win'95. I can't believe mighty IBM would react the same way..... L. Larsen London, UK From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 21 16:58:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA196138736; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 16:58:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15369; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 16:58:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Jul 1997 16:55:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15027; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 16:55:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.152.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15014; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 16:55:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcneelybn_1 (bnm.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.150.16]) by cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id QAA22550; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 16:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970721165357.00a6a410@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov> X-Sender: bnm@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 16:53:57 -0400 To: "Laurence Larsen" <71420666@msn.com> From: bnm@ornl.gov (Brooks McNeely) Subject: Re: IBM PCMCIA SCSI Card and Win 95 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 06:23 PM 7/21/97 UT, Laurence Larsen wrote: >I recently bought a PCMCIA SCSI card ("new"....although the most recent date >on the driver disk is 1994!). Part number 04H7613. I have scoured the IBM >sites on the Internet and Compuserve and am left empty handed looking for the >dreaded Win 95 .INF file. > >Does anyone know if one was written? If not, is there a workaround so my 701c >and 560 can share my scanner? > >Amazingly, the same thing happened with my Iosoft PCMCIA SCSI card when I >switched to Win 95 two years ago. They said "Sorry we won't support it in >Win'95. I can't believe mighty IBM would react the same way..... > I have one of these cards which I'm using under OS/2. My understanding is that it was a product offering from "Options by IBM". There may have been two sets of driver diskettes or maybe just one. I've tried to get updated drivers for Warp, etc without success. At COMDEX I was told that the card had been discontinued. I _thought_ that there might have been some Win95 drivers/instructions on my disks - if I can find them easily, I'll check. I would be surprised if there was no way to use the card under Win95, but I wouldn't hold my breath trying to get help from IBM on a discontinued product. But, if you can find a knowledgable person, you _should_ be able to get the latest diskette images from an ftp site. One problem I seem to recall was that IBM used some proprietary code on the diskettes (to someone else [maybe Future Domain]), and IBM was constrained in their ability to make the drivers publicly available. Good luck. Brooks Brooks McNeely Lockheed Martin Energy Systems, Inc. E-mail: bnm@ornl.gov (work) brooks_mcneely@ibm.net (non-work) Phone: 423-574-4612 (voice) 423-576-6608 (fax) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 21 17:10:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA200089434; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 17:10:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16139; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 17:09:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Jul 1997 17:07:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15978; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 17:07:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from doblegate.doble.com (doblegate.doble.com [204.215.186.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15966; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 17:07:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 3d3ce6e0; Mon, 21 Jul 97 17:02:38 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 17:03:38 -0400 Message-Id: <3d3ce6e0@doblegate.doble.com> Subject: Re[2]: OS/2 2.1 on a ThinkPad 710T PenBased To: , bnm@ornl.gov (Brooks McNeely) Cc: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, Is the 710T one of these thinkpads with a reversed logic diskette ready line? You may have to edit the config.sys to have the floppy driver handle it. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com WB1HBU From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 21 17:15:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA201429726; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 17:15:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16444; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 17:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Jul 1997 17:11:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16233; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 17:11:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.152.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16223; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 17:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcneelybn_1 (bnm.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.150.16]) by cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id RAA23740; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 17:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970721171021.00f702c8@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov> X-Sender: bnm@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 17:10:21 -0400 To: "Laurence Larsen" <71420666@msn.com> From: bnm@ornl.gov (Brooks McNeely) Subject: Re: IBM PCMCIA SCSI Card and Win 95 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 06:23 PM 7/21/97 UT, Laurence Larsen wrote: >I recently bought a PCMCIA SCSI card ("new"....although the most recent date >on the driver disk is 1994!). Part number 04H7613. I have scoured the IBM >sites on the Internet and Compuserve and am left empty handed looking for the >dreaded Win 95 .INF file. > >Does anyone know if one was written? If not, is there a workaround so my 701c >and 560 can share my scanner? > >Amazingly, the same thing happened with my Iosoft PCMCIA SCSI card when I >switched to Win 95 two years ago. They said "Sorry we won't support it in >Win'95. I can't believe mighty IBM would react the same way..... > I just checked my card, and it may not be the same as yours. On the back of my card is a part#, 92G8169, and a date, 1Q95 On IBM's OS/2 Device Driver Repository, my card is not listed, although another IBM PCMCIA SCSI card is - SCSI-II Controller Card 92G8171. I tried to look up these products at www.pc.ibm.com, but the server was unreachable when I tried. Brooks Brooks McNeely Lockheed Martin Energy Systems, Inc. E-mail: bnm@ornl.gov (work) brooks_mcneely@ibm.net (non-work) Phone: 423-574-4612 (voice) 423-576-6608 (fax) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 21 18:40:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA227124844; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:40:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20236; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:40:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:39:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20111; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20092; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:38:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cs.utk.edu by spot.cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id SAA20259; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:38:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707212238.SAA20259@spot.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: ChinMing Kuo Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: list archive or digest form In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 21 Jul 1997 06:07:59 MDT." <3.0.2.32.19970721060759.006aabbc@pop3.ibm.net> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:38:42 -0400 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Is this list archived somewhere? The archive at ftp://swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu/archive/thinkpad/archive seems to go only through February 1997. So we're missing a few months. > How about Digest form? The list is available in digest form, just send mail to thinkpad-request and ask to be on the digest. Keith From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 21 21:25:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA274434723; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 21:25:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25927; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 21:24:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Jul 1997 21:23:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25807; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 21:23:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from milkyway.gsfc.nasa.gov (milkyway.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.126.127]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25797; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 21:23:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from porter@localhost) by milkyway.gsfc.nasa.gov (LHEA9504/950407.s1) id VAA07128; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 21:23:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 21:23:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dr. F. Scott Porter NASA/GSFC" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IBM PCMCIA SCSI Card and Win 95 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970721171021.00f702c8@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 21 Jul 1997, Brooks McNeely wrote: > At 06:23 PM 7/21/97 UT, Laurence Larsen wrote: > >I recently bought a PCMCIA SCSI card ("new"....although the most recent date > >on the driver disk is 1994!). Part number 04H7613. I have scoured the IBM > >sites on the Internet and Compuserve and am left empty handed looking for > the > >dreaded Win 95 .INF file. > > > >Does anyone know if one was written? If not, is there a workaround so my > 701c > >and 560 can share my scanner? > > > >Amazingly, the same thing happened with my Iosoft PCMCIA SCSI card when I > >switched to Win 95 two years ago. They said "Sorry we won't support it in > >Win'95. I can't believe mighty IBM would react the same way..... > > > I just checked my card, and it may not be the same as yours. > > On the back of my card is a part#, 92G8169, and a date, 1Q95 > > On IBM's OS/2 Device Driver Repository, my card is not listed, although > another IBM PCMCIA SCSI card is - SCSI-II Controller Card 92G8171. > > I tried to look up these products at www.pc.ibm.com, but the server was > unreachable when I tried. > > Brooks > > > Brooks McNeely > Lockheed Martin Energy Systems, Inc. > > E-mail: > bnm@ornl.gov (work) > brooks_mcneely@ibm.net (non-work) > Phone: > 423-574-4612 (voice) > 423-576-6608 (fax) > I have an IBM SCSI card part #92G8171. The card also has no windows 95 drivers. However the card is manufactured by future domain so it is sufficient to choose the future domain PCMCIA driver from the win95 driver list. No installation disks other than your win95 CD are necessary. You might try the future domain driver on your card and just see what happens. It will either work or it won't and it should be very clear. -- Scott. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. F. Scott Porter Internet: Frederick.S.Porter@gsfc.nasa.gov NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center Office: (301)286-5016 Code 662 FAX: (301)286-1684 Greenbelt, MD 20771 WWW: http://lheawww.gsfc.nasa.gov/~porter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 22 22:30:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA084345045; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 22:30:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02899; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 22:29:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Jul 1997 22:24:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02241; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 22:24:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.clark.net (mail.clark.net [168.143.0.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02231; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 22:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shin_hw.clark.net (shin-hw.clark.net [168.143.13.19]) by mail.clark.net (8.8.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA08528 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 22:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970722222428.009ab590@clark.net> X-Sender: shin_hw@clark.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 22:24:51 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Henry Shin Subject: Online ThinkPad Service Manual Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I need to look up some error codes in the ThinkPad Service Manual. I found the service manul on the IBM's website before. But, I can't find it now. Does anyone have the URL for the service manual or something that show the error codes? Thanks in advance, Henry From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 22 23:36:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA101589018; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 23:36:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04853; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 23:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Jul 1997 23:34:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04733; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 23:34:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.clark.net (mail.clark.net [168.143.0.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04721; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 23:34:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shin_hw.clark.net (shin-hw.clark.net [168.143.13.19]) by mail.clark.net (8.8.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA01603 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 23:34:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970722233419.009a3750@clark.net> X-Sender: shin_hw@clark.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 23:34:21 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Henry Shin Subject: rebooting to win3.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I was in Win3.1 and switched over to OS2. Now, the system hangs when the laptop boots up OS2. I get a small white bar that says OS2 then the OS2 warp screen pops. Once that screen clears, the system just hangs. How does one get back into Win3.1? I just picked up a used ThinkPad and I am familiar with the PC-DOS dual boot system. I would appreciate some help. Thanks! Best, Henry From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 23 00:17:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA113381444; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 00:17:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06004; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 00:16:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Jul 1997 00:14:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05889; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 00:14:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05879; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 00:14:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm ([207.147.146.3]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA19918 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 04:14:11 +0000 From: "Ken" <97Pony@worldnet.att.net> To: "ThinkPad Group" Subject: SUBSCRIPTION CHANGE Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 21:14:45 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_47307840.47307840" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0913.6 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0913.6 Message-Id: <19970723041410.AAA19918@ibm> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_47307840.47307840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY -- PLEASE CHANGE MY EMAIL ADDRESS FOR GROUP MAIL = TO: pacificrim@ibm.net=20 Thanks! 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------=_NextPart_000_0002_47307840.47307840-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 23 04:00:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA175624819; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 04:00:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15085; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 03:54:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Jul 1997 03:49:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14375; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 03:49:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from island.islandnet.com (island.islandnet.com [198.53.172.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14365; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 03:49:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by island.islandnet.com via send-mail with stdio id for THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 00:49:10 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #9 built 1996-Nov-23) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 97 00:37:19 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970722233419.009a3750@clark.net> Subject: Re: rebooting to win3.1 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.26 (Unregistered) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In <3.0.32.19970722233419.009a3750@clark.net>, on 07/22/97 at 11:34 PM, Henry Shin said: >I was in Win3.1 and switched over to OS2. Now, the system hangs >when the laptop boots up OS2. I get a small white bar that says >OS2 then the OS2 warp screen pops. Once that screen clears, the >system just hangs. How does one get back into Win3.1? I just >picked up a used ThinkPad and I am familiar with the PC-DOS dual >boot system. I would appreciate some help. Thanks! Hi Henry, When the boot process starts you should see a small white block in the top left hand corner(boot blob). As soon as you see it press & and you should get a screen with a menu of choices. Select the option to go to the command line. On the command line type: c:/os2/boot /dos then press enter. This should replace the DOS boot files and your system should reboot in DOS mode. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- rdebeck@islandnet.com ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 23 07:19:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA222396780; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 07:19:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27792; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 07:19:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Jul 1997 07:17:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27676; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 07:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from megsinet.net (megspo.megsinet.net [208.150.39.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27666; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 07:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.megsinet.net(really [208.150.38.20]) by megsinet.net via sendmail with smtp id for ; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 06:17:29 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.95 1997-May-7 #2 built 1997-May-27) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970722181629.006adfc8@megspo.megsinet.net> X-Sender: doggo@megspo.megsinet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 18:16:29 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Berry Subject: killCMOS kills thinkpad Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu So, I'm doing some basic maintenance prior to compressing my HD. I run Norton, etc. Then I think back to my Mac days and I say, I wonder if there's something akin to resetting the P-RAM for Intel machines. I look in the utilities section on Windows95.com and I find the utility killCMOS. I read through the readme and come across the section: *scenerio two* Sometimes, a motherboard's CMOS settings will get corrupted due to a power-flux or just because it felt like it. The Level of corruption may keep you from even into the CMOS menu. So I figure, cool this clean out any corruption and I can get on with the rest of my day. I go into the set up and remove my passwords (just in case) and run killCMOS. Reboot. Bang! I gotta password. (But didn't I just remove my passwords?!) Maybe it reset my old one? No. Anyway, I can't use my ThinkPad. I call IBM, they tell me I have to have the power-on password reset by an authorized IBM service center. But, if it's the hard drive password or the "supervisor" password, I'll have to replace the components (hard drive & system board). This turns out to be just about what the thing (TP365XD DS) is going for right now in the stores, since the new model came out. So basically though I can use my ThinkPad, I can't get into the setup if I need to, or format the hard drive. Any ideas on what I can do, or what killCMOS would have set as the passwords? I can send you the text of the readme if it'll help. Yes, I've sent e-mail to the author of killCMOS. Please help. E-mail: doggo@megsinet.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 23 13:59:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA037530765; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 13:59:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17651; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 13:57:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Jul 1997 13:54:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17401; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 13:54:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from skylink.skylink.net (skylink.skylink.net [206.25.34.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17370; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 13:54:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tech1.skylink.net (tech1.skylink.net [207.49.183.20]) by skylink.skylink.net (8.8.5/4.1.4) with SMTP id KAA21664 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970723105123.007d5480@mail.skylink.net> X-Sender: merlin@mail.skylink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:51:23 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Vernon Brooks Subject: New Subscriber Info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, per the signup letter, here's my info: I own a Thinkpad 701cs (superfly...errr...butterfly). I bought it in March of 96. It was a display model from the store I was working at, Computer City. I paid $200 for it, as-is, but with warranty (???). Basically, they didn't have a power supply, port replicator, battey, or any of the extra's; but it DID have full warranty from IBM. The store manager didn't even think it worked anymore. So I bought it, and have somewhat sat on it for over a year. I just never got around to buying a battery, or any of the other stuff it needed. Finally, a few weeks ago, I have a few hundred bucks to spend after paying of the bills and such, so I decided to re-commision this thing. I bought a battery and power supply for it. So I startred it up for the first time, and lo and behold, it worked! Well, sort of. It would run off of the power supply, or it would run off of a battery, but would not see the ps if the battery was present. Hmm.. that means no charge. Hmm.. So I shipped it back to IBM via Easy-Serv (what an incredible painless process!), they replaced the MB and Keyboard (I guess it needed it), and had it back to me in 4 days as promised. I got it back, and now it charged batteries! However, the PC Card slots had ceased to function. Back to Memphis. I sent it back, they replace the MB again, and had it back to me in 3 days (weekends not included). Impressive. I think the longest part of the entire process was Fedex getting the package from their hub here in vegas, to myy office a whole 1.5 miles away. They can get a box from Memphis to Vegas in 5 hours, and then 8 hours to get it to my office from there.. heh. Anyway, SO I have my Thinkpad back, It works, I flashed the Bios, and put 95 on it last night. Almost there! Plugged in my recently acquired ethernet card, and bam, I was networked! Only thing left is to get a 16mb chip, and a port replicator. So I sent off the money for the Port Replicator today. Some guy in Wisconsin had one. $100. That's reasonable. All that's left is the Ram, which I had seen at the Chip Merchant (www.chipmerchant.com) for $93 last friday. Unfortunately, today they disavow any knowledge of such pricing.. Back to the drawing board. So, to sum up, todays quest? 1 16mb chip for a thinkpad 701. Anyone have any recomendations? ---------- Vernon Brooks Skylink Networks Technical Support Las Vegas, NV (702) 260-0900 x228 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 23 14:09:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA040821373; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 14:09:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18389; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 14:08:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Jul 1997 14:08:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18304; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 14:08:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rheoserver.pse.umass.edu (rheoserver.pse.umass.edu [128.119.70.193]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18293; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 14:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rheo-port.pse.umass.edu (128.119.70.196) by rheoserver.pse.umass.edu (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 14:11:19 -0400 Received: by rheo-port.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BC9771.D68D14C0@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 14:08:04 -0400 Message-Id: <01BC9771.D68D14C0@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> From: axel hartmann To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: New Subscriber Info Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 14:08:02 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu hi, On Wednesday, July 23, 1997 13:51, Vernon Brooks[SMTP:merlin@skylink.net] wrote: >Well, per the signup letter, here's my info: > >I own a Thinkpad 701cs (superfly...errr...butterfly). I bought it in March >of 96. It was a display model from the store I was working at, Computer >City. I paid $200 for it, as-is, but with warranty (???). not fair! envious, axel ............................................................................ . Axel Hartmann . . Paper Summer : 30 Kellogg Ave; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . . Voice only : +1 (413) 256 - 6264 . . Office : Dept. of Chemical Engineering; UMass; Amherst, MA 01003 . . Office Phone : +1 (413) 577 - 1235 Fax: +1 (413) 545 1649 . . E-Mail : axelh@polysci.umass.edu . . Homepage : http://rheoserver.pse.umass.edu/users/axel/index.html . ............................................................................ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 23 20:47:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA165175279; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 20:47:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06133; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 20:47:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Jul 1997 20:44:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05998; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 20:44:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05988; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 20:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA38058; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 20:44:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 20:44:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: Henry Shin Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Online ThinkPad Service Manual In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970722222428.009ab590@clark.net> Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I don't remember the URL either and it is difficult to find. I seem to recall doing a search for s82g1503 (also 1502 and 1504) on www.direct.ibm.com or www.boulder.ibm.com On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Henry Shin wrote: > Hi, > > I need to look up some error codes in the ThinkPad Service Manual. I found > the service manul on the IBM's website before. But, I can't find it now. > Does anyone have the URL for the service manual or something that show the > error codes? > > Thanks in advance, > > Henry > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 23 20:50:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA165855443; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 20:50:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06301; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 20:50:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Jul 1997 20:49:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06215; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 20:49:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06203; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 20:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA15530; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 20:49:21 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 20:49:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: Bill Berry Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: killCMOS kills thinkpad In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970722181629.006adfc8@megspo.megsinet.net> Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu As they said, if its the supervisor or Hard drive password you're screwed. If its the regular password, then you can override it by putting a little jumper over a pin in the cdrom drive bay of the machine. For the exact location look in the Hardware maintenance manual of the thinkpad. To see that, do a search on www.infoseek.com (not yahoo or altavista) for s82g1503. That should bring up the right document from ibms documentation server. Then just look up for your model on how to reset the password. If you need a jumper there might be one on the cdrom drive that you can take off and use for this purpose. On my 755cd it has a jumper like that. On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Bill Berry wrote: > So, I'm doing some basic maintenance prior to compressing my HD. I run > Norton, > etc. Then I think back to my Mac days and I say, I wonder if there's > something > akin to resetting the P-RAM for Intel machines. I look in the utilities > section on Windows95.com and I find the utility killCMOS. > > I read through the readme and come across the section: > > *scenerio two* > Sometimes, a motherboard's CMOS settings will get corrupted due to a > power-flux or just because it felt like it. The Level of corruption may > keep you from even into the CMOS menu. > > So I figure, cool this clean out any corruption and I can get on with the > rest > of my day. > > I go into the set up and remove my passwords (just in case) and run killCMOS. > > Reboot. Bang! I gotta password. (But didn't I just remove my passwords?!) > Maybe it reset my old one? No. > > Anyway, I can't use my ThinkPad. I call IBM, they tell me I have to have the > power-on password reset by an authorized IBM service center. But, if it's the > hard drive password or the "supervisor" password, I'll have to replace the > components (hard drive & system board). This turns out to be just about what > the thing (TP365XD DS) is going for right now in the stores, since the new > model came out. > > So basically though I can use my ThinkPad, I can't get into the setup if I > need to, or format the hard drive. > > Any ideas on what I can do, or what killCMOS would have set as the passwords? > > I can send you the text of the readme if it'll help. > > Yes, I've sent e-mail to the author of killCMOS. > > Please help. E-mail: doggo@megsinet.net > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 24 01:36:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA245722601; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 01:36:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13908; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 01:36:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Jul 1997 01:26:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13613; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 01:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CHIMAY.MACH.CS.CMU.EDU (CHIMAY.MACH.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.222.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13603; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 01:26:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CHIMAY.MACH.CS.CMU.EDU by CHIMAY.MACH.CS.CMU.EDU id aa07748; 24 Jul 97 1:26:05 EDT To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Dave Johnson Subject: BSD (or Linux) on a 560E Date: Thu, 24 Jul 97 01:26:02 -0400 Message-Id: <7746.869721962@CHIMAY.MACH.CS.CMU.EDU> Sender: David_B_Johnson@CHIMAY.MACH.CS.CMU.EDU Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm planning to buy several ThinkPad 560E's, but I'm wondering first if anybody has experience running BSD Unix (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD) or Linux on one. I want to run both FreeBSD and NetBSD, but success with OpenBSD should easily translate and success with Linux should also help. I'm mostly wondering about whether the PCMCIA support will work with the 560E's CardBus controller, but I believe the video chip is also slightly different and there may be other differences. Any success stories or other pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Dave From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 24 03:44:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA281400266; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 03:44:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20545; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 03:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Jul 1997 03:42:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20247; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 03:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from huset.fm.unit.no (huset.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20192; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 03:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19333 invoked by uid 30256); 24 Jul 1997 07:42:32 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 09:42:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Lars Christian Evensen X-Sender: larsev@huset.math.ntnu.no To: rdebeck@islandnet.com Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: rebooting to win3.1 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 23 Jul 1997 rdebeck@islandnet.com wrote: > > Select the option to go to the command line. > > On the command line type: > > c:/os2/boot /dos This should be c:\os2\boot /dos This might or might not work, since the system might hang on one of the drivers which is needed by the system to get up (such as keyboard drivers, floppy drivers, disk drivers, ...) CU -- LArs Evensen, Overordnet TillitsValgt (OTV) ved FIM, NTNU E.B.Schieldrops Vei 11-16 E-mail : larsev@stud.math.ntnu.no 7033 Trondheim WWW : http://www.fm.unit.no/~larsev/ Norway Phone : + 47 - 73 88 89 01 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 24 11:34:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA115178449; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:34:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13741; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:33:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:31:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13558; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13539; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:31:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from claudia.kodak.com by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA10603 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:29:10 -0400 Message-Id: <199707241529.AA10603@kodakr.kodak.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 12:27:00 -0400 From: "King, Randall" Subject: System Info? To: thinkpad X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetConnex V4.00a)/MIME Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know if there are any tools available to build a program that will capture the serial numbers for a thinkpad? Our company is rolling out quite a few new machines (760XLs), and I want to build a program that will capture the serial number from the BIOS. Does anyone have any idea how I could do this? RK From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 24 11:35:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA115628516; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:35:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13899; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:34:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:34:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13790; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:34:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be (columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be [130.104.14.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13495; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:31:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from columbia (unverified [130.104.14.58]) by columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 17:37:10 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970724153709.009ad4d4@columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be> X-Sender: myself@columbia.cpmc.ucl.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 17:37:09 +0200 To: Henry Shin From: Alain Jacques Subject: Re: Online ThinkPad Service Manual Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 22:24 22/07/97 -0400, you wrote: >Hi, > >I need to look up some error codes in the ThinkPad Service Manual. I found >the service manul on the IBM's website before. But, I can't find it now. >Does anyone have the URL for the service manual or something that show the >error codes? here is the web page: http://www3.pc.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/BOOKS/s82g1503/CONTENTS#COVER Kind regards, Alain From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 24 11:55:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA121389733; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:55:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14882; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:53:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14763; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sbroapp01.3-SOFT.com ([207.96.181.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14746; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sbroapp01.3-SOFT.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC9828.644EA240@sbroapp01.3-SOFT.com>; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:54:50 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Mariano, Jorge" To: "'thinkpad'" , "'King, Randall'" Subject: RE: System Info? Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:54:49 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Yes use TME 10 Netfinity System info tool. In there you will find an option named VPD ( Vital Product Data ) where you will get what you want. Hope this helps Jorge >---------- >De : King, Randall[SMTP:rjking@kodak.com] >Date : 24 juillet, 1997 12:27 >A : thinkpad >Objet : System Info? > > >Does anyone know if there are any tools available to build a program that >will capture the serial numbers for a thinkpad? Our company is rolling out >quite a few new machines (760XLs), and I want to build a program that will >capture the serial number from the BIOS. Does anyone have any idea how I >could do this? > >RK > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 24 12:13:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA127250807; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 12:13:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16176; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 12:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Jul 1997 12:12:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16076; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 12:12:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.worldnow.com (smtp1yellow.worldnow.com [208.142.208.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16064; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 12:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [208.142.208.11] by smtp1.worldnow.com (SMTPD32-4.0) id A0089D1A0150; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 10:17:12 -0600 Received: from [205.218.33.58] by mail.sisna.com (SMTPD32-3.04) id AEE335B70128; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 10:12:19 -0600 Message-Id: <33D77FF3.5F5D5E2B@propilot.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 10:16:52 -0600 From: Don Rich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: easyserv X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi All Easyserv will pickup my 701 tomorrow to replace the cmos battery. Does anyone have any suggestions as to anything else I should have them check while its there? TIA Don From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 24 12:29:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA132461751; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 12:29:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17356; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 12:28:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Jul 1997 12:28:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17275; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 12:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from skylink.skylink.net (skylink.skylink.net [206.25.34.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17265; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 12:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tech1.skylink.net (tech1.skylink.net [207.49.183.20]) by skylink.skylink.net (8.8.5/4.1.4) with SMTP id JAA23308 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 09:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970724092507.007e1790@mail.skylink.net> X-Sender: merlin@mail.skylink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 09:25:07 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Vernon Brooks Subject: easyserv Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >Hi All >Easyserv will pickup my 701 tomorrow to replace the cmos battery. Does >anyone have any suggestions as to anything else I should have them check >while its there? >TIA >Don Well, atleast run through the test screen yourself, just to make sure everything works when it leaves.. (Hold down F1 on boot) ---------- Vernon Brooks Skylink Networks Technical Support Las Vegas, NV (702) 260-0900 x228 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 24 16:23:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA205985839; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 16:23:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29982; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 16:23:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Jul 1997 16:18:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29474; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 16:18:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from island.islandnet.com (island.islandnet.com [198.53.172.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29457; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 16:18:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by island.islandnet.com via send-mail with stdio id for THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 13:18:39 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #9 built 1996-Nov-23) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 97 13:02:47 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: rebooting to win3.1 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.26 (Unregistered) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In , on 07/24/97 at 09:42 AM, Lars Christian Evensen said: >On Wed, 23 Jul 1997 rdebeck@islandnet.com wrote: >> Select the option to go to the command line. >> >> On the command line type: >> >> c:/os2/boot /dos Thank You. I'd been playing with Linux that night. >This should be c:\os2\boot /dos ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What I had meant. :) >This might or might not work, since the system might hang on one >of the drivers which is needed by the system to get up (such as >keyboard drivers, floppy drivers, disk drivers, ...) Hopefully not. If it does fail, access through the Utility Disk Set or installation disks should allow this OS/2 command line procedure. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- rdebeck@islandnet.com ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 25 03:52:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA103567154; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 03:52:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26177; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 03:52:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 25 Jul 1997 03:48:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA25762; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 03:48:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2.boston.juno.com (m2.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.199]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA25752; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 03:48:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from awtse@juno.com) by m2.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DeJ23251; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 03:47:51 EDT To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 00:35:47 PDT Subject: 701 HD upgrade Message-Id: <19970725.004548.9558.0.awtse@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.38 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-9 From: awtse@juno.com (Aaron Tse) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi all, i like to know if anyone has upgraded their 701 HD to a toshiba slimline 2.1GB HD (model: mk2103). would like to know the list's experience regarding HD upgrade for 701..thanks in advance. aaron tse awtse@itsa.ucsf.edu awtse@juno.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 25 07:02:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA147658571; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 07:02:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08237; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 07:02:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 25 Jul 1997 07:01:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08144; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 07:01:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08126; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 07:01:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from uucp1.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp1.UU.NET [192.48.96.39]) id QQczse28937; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 07:01:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw.UUCP by uucp1.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 07:01:28 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailgw.wellspringres.com id AA869839023 Fri, 25 Jul 97 06:57:03 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 97 06:57:03 Message-Id: <9706258698.AA869839023@mailgw.wellspringres.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, awtse@juno.com (Aaron Tse) Subject: Re: 701 HD upgrade Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu About 1 yr. ago I upgraded my 701 to a 1.3GB Toshiba, the model number started off MK130. I didn't install the drive myself but it has worked with out any apparent problem since then (it did seem a bit louder than the original when first installed) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: 701 HD upgrade Author: awtse@juno.com (Aaron Tse) at Internet Date: 7/25/97 12:35 AM Hi all, i like to know if anyone has upgraded their 701 HD to a toshiba slimline 2.1GB HD (model: mk2103). would like to know the list's experience regarding HD upgrade for 701..thanks in advance. aaron tse awtse@itsa.ucsf.edu awtse@juno.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 25 16:10:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA010451427; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:10:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05356; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:10:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:08:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05154; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05142; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10078 invoked by alias); 25 Jul 1997 20:11:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 10071 invoked from network); 25 Jul 1997 20:11:52 -0000 Received: from isdn094.tu-graz.ac.at (HELO pseudolus) (129.27.240.94) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 25 Jul 1997 20:11:52 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970725150959.030dd9fc@pop.netaddress.com> X-Sender: geige@pop.netaddress.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:09:59 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Dale Chao Subject: MWAVE question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I read the talk about MWAVE modems and I have no idea what they are. Could someone be kind enough to take a moment to explain them to me or point me to resources? Thanks, Dale ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Dale Chao Concord, California Primary Email: geige@usa.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 25 16:10:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA010491428; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:10:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05360; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:10:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:08:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05169; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:08:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05135; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:08:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10069 invoked by alias); 25 Jul 1997 20:11:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 10047 invoked from network); 25 Jul 1997 20:11:48 -0000 Received: from isdn094.tu-graz.ac.at (HELO pseudolus) (129.27.240.94) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 25 Jul 1997 20:11:48 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970725150910.030dd9fc@pop.netaddress.com> X-Sender: geige@pop.netaddress.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:09:10 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Dale Chao Subject: 701 Screen problem update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu A few weeks ago there was some discussion of the 701CS screen getting all mucked up by opening a DOS box. The recommended solutions included Fn-F1-and-back and switching color depth. Well, I just wanted to pass along that I did a fresh FDISK/format/Win95 install and that problem seems to have gone away. I did *nothing* to interfere with Win95's hardware autodetect. Also another update on a problem I had a ways back: multiport+2 PC cards wouldn't work. It turns out there just weren't enough IRQs to go around. Disabling a port I wasn't use in a new hardware configuration took care of that one as well. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Dale Chao Concord, California Primary Email: geige@usa.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 25 16:37:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA019183073; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:37:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06952; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:37:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:36:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06858; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from skylink.skylink.net (skylink.skylink.net [206.25.34.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06846; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:36:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tech1.skylink.net (tech1.skylink.net [207.49.183.20]) by skylink.skylink.net (8.8.5/4.1.4) with SMTP id NAA06426 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 13:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970725133337.00977150@mail.skylink.net> X-Sender: merlin@mail.skylink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 13:33:37 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Vernon Brooks Subject: 701 Screen problem update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >A few weeks ago there was some discussion of the 701CS screen getting all >mucked up by opening a DOS box. The recommended solutions included >Fn-F1-and-back and switching color depth. I have seen some interesting occurences with mine as well (701CS). I have found that even though I have adjusted the contrast so that everything is clearly visible, if I suspend or reboot (or anything of that nature), when it comes backup, the screen needs adjusting again.. has anyone else expreienced this? Also, the screen sometimes seems cloudy. Is this also normal? Bear in mind this is the Passive screen (CS), not the active matrix (C). Anyones experiences are helpful..thx. ---------- Vernon Brooks Skylink Networks Technical Support Las Vegas, NV (702) 260-0900 x228 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 25 16:45:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA021863530; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:45:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07902; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:44:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07790; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:44:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brickbat9.mindspring.com (brickbat9.mindspring.com [207.69.200.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07779; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:44:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from desktop (ip76.lancaster.pa.pub-ip.psi.net [38.14.75.76]) by brickbat9.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA05577 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:44:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970725164313.00930e40@mindspring.com> X-Sender: houlihan@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:43:13 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Jerry Houlihan Subject: 701C & Links 386 GOLF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I downloaded VESA.COM from the Chips & Tech page but I'm still having problems getting Links386 to run on my Thinkpad 701c. The game goes as far as the "Access Software" screen with the lighthouse but then stops. The cursor remains an eternal hour glass that I can move around. Can anyone tell me if this game will run on the 701C? Thanks, Jerry H. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 25 16:50:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA023323825; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:50:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08224; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:50:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:49:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08139; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:49:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brickbat9.mindspring.com (brickbat9.mindspring.com [207.69.200.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08127; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:49:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from desktop (ip76.lancaster.pa.pub-ip.psi.net [38.14.75.76]) by brickbat9.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA07900 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:49:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970725164810.009315e0@mindspring.com> X-Sender: houlihan@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:48:10 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Jerry Houlihan Subject: 701C & Links 386 GOLF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Never Mind....... I had forgotten to create the Harbor Town course. It works great now. Thanks, Jerry From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 25 16:52:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA023833931; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:52:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08464; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:51:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:51:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08357; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:51:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vader.dhs.com (root@vader.dhs.com [198.69.202.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08324; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jim.dhs.com ([198.69.202.22]) by vader.dhs.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA05017; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:43:26 -0500 Message-Id: <33D9113D.3D74@cyberramp.net> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:49:01 -0500 From: Jim McGhee Reply-To: jmcghee@cyberramp.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Vernon Brooks Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 Screen problem update References: <3.0.3.32.19970725133337.00977150@mail.skylink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi all, The screen is very sensitive to heat. If you suspend it and leave the lid open, it cools off. If you close the lid, it heats up (or cools off if you leave it suspended long enough). This is what causes it to need adjustment. Jim Vernon Brooks wrote: > > >A few weeks ago there was some discussion of the 701CS screen getting all > >mucked up by opening a DOS box. The recommended solutions included > >Fn-F1-and-back and switching color depth. > > I have seen some interesting occurences with mine as well (701CS). I have > found that even though I have adjusted the contrast so that everything is > clearly visible, if I suspend or reboot (or anything of that nature), when > it comes backup, the screen needs adjusting again.. has anyone else > expreienced this? Also, the screen sometimes seems cloudy. Is this also > normal? Bear in mind this is the Passive screen (CS), not the active > matrix (C). Anyones experiences are helpful..thx. > ---------- > Vernon Brooks > Skylink Networks Technical Support > Las Vegas, NV (702) 260-0900 x228 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jul 25 17:26:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA035085975; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:26:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10466; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:25:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:24:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10336; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:24:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rheoserver.pse.umass.edu (rheoserver.pse.umass.edu [128.119.70.193]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10325; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rheo-port.pse.umass.edu (128.119.70.196) by rheoserver.pse.umass.edu (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:28:02 -0400 Received: by rheo-port.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BC991F.A0F9E9A0@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:24:38 -0400 Message-Id: <01BC991F.A0F9E9A0@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> From: axel hartmann To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" , "'Dale Chao'" Subject: RE: 701 Screen problem update Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:24:33 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Friday, July 25, 1997 09:09, Dale Chao[SMTP:geige@usa.net] wrote: >A few weeks ago there was some discussion of the 701CS screen getting all >mucked up by opening a DOS box. The recommended solutions included >Fn-F1-and-back and switching color depth. > >Well, I just wanted to pass along that I did a fresh FDISK/format/Win95 >install and that problem seems to have gone away. I did *nothing* to >interfere with Win95's hardware autodetect. are you using thousands of colores (16 bit)? only then does it occur. windows95 standard is 256 colors, i believe. axel ............................................................................ . Axel Hartmann . . Paper Summer : 30 Kellogg Ave; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . . Voice only : +1 (413) 256 - 6264 . . Office : Dept. of Chemical Engineering; UMass; Amherst, MA 01003 . . Office Phone : +1 (413) 577 - 1235 Fax: +1 (413) 545 1649 . . E-Mail : axelh@polysci.umass.edu . . Homepage : http://rheoserver.pse.umass.edu/users/axel/index.html . ............................................................................ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jul 26 19:25:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA143459536; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 19:25:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23573; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 19:25:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 26 Jul 1997 19:19:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23392; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 19:19:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23382; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 19:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 802 invoked by alias); 26 Jul 1997 23:22:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 789 invoked from network); 26 Jul 1997 23:22:36 -0000 Received: from isdn086.tu-graz.ac.at (HELO pseudolus) (129.27.240.86) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 26 Jul 1997 23:22:36 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970725232255.0078a28c@pop.a001.sprintmail.com> X-Sender: geige@pop.a001.sprintmail.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 23:22:55 +0200 To: "behildre" , "Thinkpad" From: Dale Chao Subject: Re: multiport for 701 In-Reply-To: <199707202128.RAA14857@cplus.cpis.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 05:22 PM 7/20/97 -0700, behildre wrote: >I found the multiport on the IBM website.....the price is 491 bucks....are >they for real? all I want is the skinny little thing that goes on the back >of my 701 so I can print and use an accessory or two. > >any other places to check out? > > $491! Yikes! Did you know that the little port under the rubber cover on the left side is for both a floppy drive doubles as a parallel port as well? You'd need to get the cord that came with the machine. Hopefully it wouldn't be so much. You can pick up a serial pcmcia card for as little as $80. The other ports on the multi-port are duplicates of the power input, line in/out duplicates, as well as a vga out and pair of mouse and keyboard ports for external versions. So it seems to me you can most of the functionality for something less than buying the plastic piece from IBM. Cheers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Dale Chao Concord, California Primary Email: geige@usa.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jul 26 21:43:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA178987808; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 21:43:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26887; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 21:43:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 26 Jul 1997 21:40:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26780; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 21:40:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26769; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 21:40:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA09977; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 21:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 21:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <970726214020_1422622951@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: awtse@juno.com Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 HD upgrade Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Aaron, The Toshiba MK2103MAV drive will fit in your system. This is the Slimline 12.5mm high drive. Full size 19mm high drives will not fit into your system, they are simply too thick. Currently the largest HDD that will fit that system is the 3gb. There are additional metal HDD Caddies and solutions to use the old HDD taken out of the system after upgrade. Contact me or visit our website if you have any other questions. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM 800-737-7693 X102 714-418-0113 X102 Tel 714-418-0117 Fax Up to 3GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: 701 HD upgrade Date: 97-07-25 03:50:49 EDT From: awtse@juno.com (Aaron Ts) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Hi all, i like to know if anyone has upgraded their 701 HD to a toshiba slimline 2.1GB HD (model: mk2103). would like to know the list's experience regarding HD upgrade for 701..thanks in advance. aaron tse awtse@itsa.ucsf.edu awtse@juno.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jul 26 21:50:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA181138235; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 21:50:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27148; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 21:50:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 26 Jul 1997 21:48:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27048; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 21:48:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from island.islandnet.com (island.islandnet.com [198.53.172.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27036; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 21:48:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by island.islandnet.com via send-mail with stdio id for THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 18:48:28 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #9 built 1996-Nov-23) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 97 18:05:15 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701-OS/2 Web Page X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.26 (Unregistered) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This may be old news to some of you but, while looking for something else I stumbled on: http://www.secant.com/sipples/tpad701.htm I don't recall it turning up when I was actively searching for TP701 sites. It seems to have some usefull info and links. Noteably: -List of some Replacement HD's and related info. -REXX script for creating hibernation files on HPFS partitions. -Link to Video Features v4.2.0 for warp (VF701os2.exe) I haven't been to the IBM site: http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/ Some of this may be available there too. Hope this is usefull. :) -- ----------------------------------------------------------- rdebeck@islandnet.com ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jul 27 00:29:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA222947782; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 00:29:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00813; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 00:28:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 27 Jul 1997 00:25:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00698; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 00:25:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00687; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 00:25:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slip129-37-233-187.mi.us.ibm.net (slip129-37-233-187.mi.us.ibm.net [129.37.233.187]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA80720 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 04:25:47 GMT From: mocek@ibm.net (Stan Mocek) To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: multiport for 701 Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 04:25:57 GMT Organization: IBM Global Network Reply-To: mocek@ibm.net Message-Id: <33ddcdc3.7438239@smtp1.ibm.net> References: <199707202128.RAA14857@cplus.cpis.net> In-Reply-To: <199707202128.RAA14857@cplus.cpis.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 20 Jul 1997 17:22:25 -0700, "behildre" wrote: >I found the multiport on the IBM website.....the price is 491 bucks....are >they for real? all I want is the skinny little thing that goes on the back >of my 701 so I can print and use an accessory or two. > >any other places to check out? I found this at the most requested ThinkPad parts site: http://direct.boulder.ibm.com/us/parts/popular/thinkpad/tpad701.htm Evidently, IBM is *only* charging $179.00 for the MultiPort II now. Still pretty pricey in my book, but a heck of a lot better than $491.00. -- Stan Mocek mocek@ibm.net ThinkPad 701C owner and proud of it! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jul 27 01:14:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA235020486; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 01:14:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02062; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 01:11:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 27 Jul 1997 01:09:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01930; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 01:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rheoserver.pse.umass.edu (rheoserver.pse.umass.edu [128.119.70.193]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01920; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 01:09:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nscs26p9.remote.umass.edu (128.119.179.115) by rheoserver.pse.umass.edu (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 01:12:52 -0400 Received: by nscs26p9.remote.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BC9A29.BBE33EA0@nscs26p9.remote.umass.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 01:09:29 -0400 Message-Id: <01BC9A29.BBE33EA0@nscs26p9.remote.umass.edu> From: axel hartmann To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: 701 HD upgrade Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 01:09:26 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Saturday, July 26, 1997 17:40, PEPSales@aol.com wrote: Gee - look how late they have to work at PE on saturdays! I hope they are busy running those benchmarks for the CPU upgrades. ;) axel [...] >Best Regards, > >Michael >email: pepsale2[...] >Portable Enhancements >The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM [...] ............................................................................ . Axel Hartmann . . Paper Summer : 30 Kellogg Ave; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . . Voice only : +1 (413) 256 - 6264 . . Office : Dept. of Chemical Engineering; UMass; Amherst, MA 01003 . . Office Phone : +1 (413) 577 - 1235 Fax: +1 (413) 545 1649 . . E-Mail : axelh@polysci.umass.edu . . Homepage : http://rheoserver.pse.umass.edu/users/axel/index.html . ............................................................................ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jul 27 12:47:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA110472067; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:47:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24793; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:43:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24673; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.201]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24662; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:43:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (bp7@aixterm1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.41]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with SMTP id SAA14226 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 18:42:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03aixterm1) id AA66159; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 18:43:15 +0200 Message-Id: <9707271643.AA66159@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> From: "Andreas Busch" To: "ThinkPad Discussion List" Date: Sun, 27 Jul 97 18:43:37 +0200 Reply-To: "Andreas Busch" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Problem with ThinkPad 760 ED and external floppy drive Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, this is my first posting to the list, since it is only ten days that I bought a (9 month used) ThinkPad 760 ED with 48 MB RAM. My name is Andre= as Busch, I work at the University of Heidelberg, Political Science department. The ThinkPad I bought because from September onwards, I will= spend a year in the States (in Cambridge, MA). So much for my introduction, now to my problem: I want to install OS/2 o= n it (it has Win 95 installed at the moment). For this I need both a disk drive and a CD-ROM drive. So I borrowed an external drive (FDD) from a friend who owns a somewhat older ThinkPad model (I don=B4t recall the precise model at the moment), hopin= g that I could use that (since the kit to turn the internal FDD into an externa= l one is not available at the moment, as my IBM dealer tells me). Now, I can connect the external FDD to the machine. And when I boot the ThinkPad, it apparently recognizes the FDD (when I have a floppy in the drive on boot-up, it complains about this not being a system disk). However, when the system is booted and I try to access drive A:, it give= s me a "not accessible" error. I have tried to give the "PS2 FDD E" command, which as far as I know is supposed to tell the machine that it should look for= an external floppy drive, but that doesn=B4t change a thing. Now for the REALLY strange part: when I exchange the CD-ROM drive for th= e internal floppy drive and do the same as above, the system recognizes th= e external drive and I have both a drive A: and a drive B: and can access both! That of course is of little use to me, since I need a floppy AND a CD-RO= M drive to install OS/2... But it shows that IN PRINCIPLE the ThinkPad can= access the FDD. Is there somebody on this list that has solved that problem? If so, or anybody else has an idea what I am doing wrong, please tell me! Thanks in advance Andreas ____________________________________________________________ Dr. Andreas Busch bp7@ix.urz.uni-heidel= berg.de Universitaet Heidelberg, Institut fuer Politische Wissenschaft, Germany ____________________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jul 27 15:57:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA158803463; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:57:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27997; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:57:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:54:35 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27757; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:54:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id PAA24709; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:54:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25612; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 13:34:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from toya.smr.aichi-gakuin.ac.jp (slip202-135-104-241.na.jp.ibm.net [202.135.104.241]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA112004 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:34:10 GMT Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:34:10 GMT Message-Id: <199707271734.RAA112004@out2.ibm.net> To: From: Masahiko Toyama Subject: introduce my TP Reply-To: toyam01@ibm.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.21 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Dear members. My name is Masahiko Toyama. I live in Japan,so occasionaly I use erroneous English. Please excuse me. I have a Think Pad 380D, 16MB, 2.1G HD.And I have TDK Fax Modem, IO/DATA SCSI card, Canon LPT 310 printer, SONY RMOS 310, and Palm Pilot, MAC IIcx, Sharp Mebius MN-5000D. My operating system is Windows 95. Sincerely *----------------------------------------------------------------* Masahiko Toyama toyam01@ibm.net *----------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jul 27 17:46:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA187259976; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:46:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00784; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:45:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:43:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00679; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:43:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hauki.clinet.fi (root@hauki.clinet.fi [194.100.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00664; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:43:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chipie (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by hauki.clinet.fi (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id AAA06731 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:43:32 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199707272143.AAA06731@hauki.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Mon, 28 Jul 97 00:43:31 +0300 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9706258698.AA869839023@mailgw.wellspringres.com> Subject: Re: 701 HD upgrade X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.30a Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, Like the original poster, I'm looking for a replacement drive for my 701. My criteria are the following: 1. size between 1 GB and 2 GB 2. drive must be as quiet as the original IBM 360 MB I still have 3. price $400-500 max. I found a number of potentially suitable candidates (listed below). I'd appreciate recommandations based on personal experience and also suggestions about a reputable mail order company. (From http://www.secant.com/sipples/tpad701.htm) IBM TravelStar 4LP Model No. DTNA-22160 (2.1 GB) IBM TravelStar 4LP Model No. DTNA-21800 (1.8 GB) IBM TravelStar 3LP Model No. DCMA-21440 (1.44 GB) Maxtor Mobilemax (Laramie) Model No. 251340 (1.3 GB) Seagate Marathon 1350SL Model No. ST91350AG (1.3 GB) Toshiba Model No. MK-1301MAV (1.3 GB) Toshiba Model No. HDD2716CZE01002 (2.1 GB) (From http://www-nrg.ee.lbl.gov/leres/butterfly/disk.html) Toshiba MK1401MAV 1440MB Fujitsu M2714TAM 1080MB If anyone has been happy with drives not listed above, please tell me about them! Thanks, Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 28 01:45:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA009998711; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 01:45:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18516; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 01:44:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Jul 1997 01:41:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18398; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 01:41:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18387; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 01:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Imcp6-200 (slip129-37-114-95.mn.us.ibm.net [129.37.114.95]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA104682 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 05:41:11 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970728004245.006bc9d0@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> X-Sender: patshar@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:42:45 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Pat Hammond Subject: 701 8MB memory SIMM for sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have recently replaced an 8 MB memory SIMM in my wifes 701 Thinkpad with a larger one. So I now have one to sell. IBM charges some outrageous prive for this (and I hate to think what I paid for it). I will sell it for $100. Please send me a note. Pat Hammond phammond@ibm.net left,leftRegards, Paschal S Hammond From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 28 03:17:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA035124224; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 03:17:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21591; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 03:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Jul 1997 03:14:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21305; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 03:14:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2.boston.juno.com (m2.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.199]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21270; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 03:12:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from awtse@juno.com) by m2.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DkK02779; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 03:11:56 EDT To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:09:31 PDT Subject: Re: 701 8MB memory SIMM for sale Message-Id: <19970728.000933.11846.0.awtse@juno.com> References: <3.0.1.32.19970728004245.006bc9d0@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> X-Mailer: Juno 1.38 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-28 From: awtse@juno.com (Aaron Tse) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu $100 for 8MB!!! i paid $103 for the 16MB i got >from the chip merchant a few months ago. \\\\ ( o o ) ------------------o0o-----0-----o0o------------------- aaron tse awtse@itsa.ucsf.edu awtse@juno.com ------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:42:45 -0500 Pat Hammond writes: >I have recently replaced an 8 MB memory SIMM in my wifes 701 Thinkpad >with a larger one. So I now have one to sell. IBM charges some >outrageous prive for this (and I hate to think what I paid for it). I >will sell it for $100. Please send me a note. > > >Pat Hammond > > >phammond@ibm.net > >left,leftRegards, > > >Paschal S Hammond > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 28 03:53:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA044056406; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 03:53:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA25596; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 03:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Jul 1997 03:51:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA25313; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 03:51:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from germany.it.earthlink.net (germany-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.123]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA25275; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 03:50:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 1Cust36.max25.los-angeles.ca.ms.uu.net (1Cust36.max25.los-angeles.ca.ms.uu.net [153.34.82.164]) by germany.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA03212; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707280750.AAA03212@germany.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Cc: "Ty Shrake" Date: Fri, 25 Jul 97 19:44:59 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Now FIXED TP701 Update Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu New update: My 701 has now, except for removeable stuff like the hard drive, memory, multiport, power supply, etc., been completely replaced, and also except for the metal hinges inside the machine and the LCD flex cable. And it looks really nice: the LCD only has a small grey dot near the lower left middle portion of the screen, but that sure beats a broken backlight and the verticle line defects it had. And now I can also use *BOTH* PCMCIA slots, the keyboard is brand new, and actually feels better than the original, etc. Overall, it's just better! And apparently, the Easy Serve Tech, who was actually nice this time, told me that if I wasn't so fortunate to have the Exec. Cust. Support person cover the repair charges, I would've had to fork over $3,300 which I don't have, and probably won't have for quite some time. Also, are there any 701 users on this list who use Warp 4? When I start up OS/2, I get a SYS3175 regarding CCHUSER.DLL and CCHMAIN.EXE, but on my desktop/server, running the same copy while the ThinkPad was out, I got no errors whatsoever, so I don't know whether it could directly be related to my 701 or not. I even copied the files from my desktop to this machine, and still got errors. TIA Regards, Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 28 04:12:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA048887533; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 04:12:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA27921; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 04:11:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Jul 1997 04:09:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA27553; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 04:09:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA27543; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 04:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 1Cust36.max25.los-angeles.ca.ms.uu.net (1Cust36.max25.los-angeles.ca.ms.uu.net [153.34.82.164]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA27358; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 01:09:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707280809.BAA27358@sweden.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "behildre" , "Dale Chao" , "Thinkpad" Date: Mon, 28 Jul 97 01:06:15 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: multiport for 701 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 25 Jul 1997 23:22:55 +0200, Dale Chao wrote: >At 05:22 PM 7/20/97 -0700, behildre wrote: >>I found the multiport on the IBM website.....the price is 491 bucks....are >>they for real? all I want is the skinny little thing that goes on the back >>of my 701 so I can print and use an accessory or two. >> >>any other places to check out? >> >> >$491! Yikes! Did you know that the little port under the rubber cover on >the left side is for both a floppy drive doubles as a parallel port as >well? You'd need to get the cord that came with the machine. Hopefully it >wouldn't be so much. You can pick up a serial pcmcia card for as little as >$80. The other ports on the multi-port are duplicates of the power input, >line in/out duplicates, as well as a vga out and pair of mouse and keyboard >ports for external versions. > >So it seems to me you can most of the functionality for something less than >buying the plastic piece from IBM. > You might as well go out and buy a Dock 2 and 701 adapter. It's probably cheaper than the Multiport 2 when also compared to expansion capabilities. Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jul 28 16:34:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA255372086; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:34:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11990; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:28:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11469; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from docws007.shl.com (docws007.shl.com [159.249.56.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11443; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com (ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.25]) by docws007.shl.com (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA15822 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 15:28:09 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC9B73.6F8039F0@ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com>; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:29:35 -0400 Message-Id: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" , "rdebeck@islandnet.com" Subject: RE: TP701-OS/2 Web Page Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:24:43 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 44 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The IBM thinkpad link should be: http://www.us.pc.ibm.com/thinkpad/thinkpad.html Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com ---------- From: rdebeck@islandnet.com[SMTP:rdebeck@islandnet.com] Sent: 1997 July 26 - Saturday 14:05 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701-OS/2 Web Page This may be old news to some of you but, while looking for something else I stumbled on: http://www.secant.com/sipples/tpad701.htm I don't recall it turning up when I was actively searching for TP701 sites. It seems to have some usefull info and links. Noteably: -List of some Replacement HD's and related info. -REXX script for creating hibernation files on HPFS partitions. -Link to Video Features v4.2.0 for warp (VF701os2.exe) I haven't been to the IBM site: http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/ Some of this may be available there too. Hope this is usefull. :) -- ----------------------------------------------------------- rdebeck@islandnet.com ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 29 20:26:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA123212390; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:26:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24562; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:24:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:21:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24256; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24229; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:20:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pool075-max2.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool075-max2.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.8.75]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA14539; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 17:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707300020.RAA14539@sweden.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" , "toyam01@ibm.net" Date: Tue, 29 Jul 97 17:17:41 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: introduce my TP Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:34:10 GMT, Masahiko Toyama wrote: >Dear members. > >My name is Masahiko Toyama. >I live in Japan,so occasionaly I use erroneous English. Please excuse >me. > >I have a Think Pad 380D, 16MB, 2.1G HD.And I have TDK Fax Modem, IO/DATA >SCSI card, Canon LPT 310 printer, SONY RMOS 310, and Palm Pilot, MAC >IIcx, Sharp Mebius MN-5000D. >My operating system is Windows 95. > >Sincerely > > >*----------------------------------------------------------------* > Masahiko Toyama > toyam01@ibm.net >*----------------------------------------------------------------* > If you don't mind my asking, was your SCSI card PCMCIA, and what is the average cost? What OSes is it compatible with? I am currently getting quotes because I need to add 2-4 devices to my ThinkPad 701cs. Thanks. Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 29 21:03:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA133424625; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:03:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25703; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:00:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25628; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25607; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:00:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pool004-max6.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool004-max6.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.16.4]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA06280; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 17:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707300059.RAA06280@sweden.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "jmcghee@cyberramp.net" , "Vernon Brooks" Cc: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 29 Jul 97 17:56:17 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701 Screen problem update Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:49:01 -0500, Jim McGhee wrote: >Hi all, >The screen is very sensitive to heat. If you suspend it and leave the >lid open, it cools off. If you close the lid, it heats up (or cools off >if you leave it suspended long enough). This is what causes it to need >adjustment. > >Jim > That problem seems to affect the DSTN screens a lot, too. Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 29 21:04:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA133614665; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:04:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25896; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:03:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:03:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25772; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:03:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norway.it.earthlink.net (norway-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25755; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:02:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pool004-max6.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool004-max6.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.16.4]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA06571; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707300102.SAA06571@norway.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "rdebeck@islandnet.com" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 29 Jul 97 17:59:15 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP701-OS/2 Web Page Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 26 Jul 97 18:05:15, rdebeck@islandnet.com wrote: >This may be old news to some of you but, >while looking for something else I stumbled on: > >http://www.secant.com/sipples/tpad701.htm > >I don't recall it turning up when I was actively >searching for TP701 sites. It seems to have some >usefull info and links. Noteably: > >-List of some Replacement HD's and related info. >-REXX script for creating hibernation files on HPFS partitions. >-Link to Video Features v4.2.0 for warp (VF701os2.exe) > Actually, according to the OS/2 Warp 4.0 Device Driver CD-ROM, you should go to www.chips.com, Chips and Technologies website, for the latest video drivers for OS/2. They also have the latest drivers for Windows 3.x/95/NT3.x,4.x. Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 29 21:29:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA140056189; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:29:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26506; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:21:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26425; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (ftp.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26414; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:21:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sfupc.Triumf.CA by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:17:54 PST Received: by sfupc.Triumf.CA with Microsoft Mail id <01BC9C4C.A90BC660@sfupc.Triumf.CA>; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:24:32 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC9C4C.A90BC660@sfupc.Triumf.CA> From: tisol To: "'Paul Khoury'" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE:looking for PCMCIA SCSI.....and sound and cheap ! Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:24:31 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is worth a look !!! Http://www.onsale.com has been trying to sell these for weeks now. They never go above $79 Check with toshiba re. who the OEM is . ..peter.. New - Toshiba Noteworthy SCSI/Audio PC Card Multimedia Combo Super Audio and SCSI all wrapped up in one package!=20 The Noteworthy Multimedia Combo combines 16-bit stereo sound with a high = performance SCSI II adapter in a single Plug & Play PC card. Featuring = SCSI data transfers of over 10 megabytes per second and CD-quality = sound. Use the Multimedia Combo to enjoy better sound for your favorite = games, to create multimedia presentations on the road, and to connect up = to seven SCSI peripherals to your portable.=20 General Features:=20 SCSI=20 .Fast SCSI II interface, includes Corel SCSI software .Supports up to = seven SCSI devices at once .Over 10 MB/sec burst data transfer .Over 3 = MB/sec sustained data transfer .Built in FIFO for high speed data = transfer=20 AUDIO=20 .CD-quality, 16-bit stereo recording and playback .Microsoft Sound = System Compatible .Analog and digital signal mixing .Up to 44.1 KHz = sampling .16-bit stereo to 4-bit mono sampling .20 Voice MIDI/Adlib = compatible synthesizer .HMI & AIL games compatible=20 SYSTEM ARCHITECTURE=20 AUDIO: 32KB on-card DMA emulation=20 SCSI: 128 byte on-card FIFO buffer, on-card Active Termination=20 .Form Factor .Complies with PCMCIA Release 2.1 or greater .Bundled = Software .Microsoft Windows Sound System, Corel SCSI .Plug & Play = drivers, Auto-Install .Diagnostics & Integrated Messaging=20 Software Compatiblity MIDI Play compatibility with .WAV Mixing, Microsoft Windows Windows 95, = MS-DOS, Multimedia PC (MPC 2)=20 Sampling Rate Up to 44.1 KHz and 16-bit Stereo Sampling=20 Interface Connections 36" cable with three 1/8" sound jacks and SCSI II interface, headset, = microphone=20 Compatible Systems Toshiba and other Type II PC Card compliant computers without audio = support=20 Back to Top .Warranty Length: 90 day functionally defective warranty. .Coverage: = This warranty covers a refund for a functionally defective product only = there are no exchanges or repairs available. .Provider: Warranty = provided by ONSALE. .Contact: In the unlikely event that the product is = functionally defective, please submit an Action Request to ONSALE. 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From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jul 29 21:43:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA143767001; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:43:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27214; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:42:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:41:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27096; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:41:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27055; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:41:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pool004-max6.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool004-max6.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.16.4]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA00285; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707300141.SAA00285@sweden.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "tisol" Date: Tue, 29 Jul 97 18:38:22 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE:looking for PCMCIA SCSI.....and sound and cheap ! Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:24:31 -0700, tisol wrote: >This is worth a look !!! >Http://www.onsale.com has been trying to sell these for weeks now. >They never go above $79 >Check with toshiba re. who the OEM is . >..peter.. > > >New - Toshiba Noteworthy SCSI/Audio PC Card Multimedia Combo > >Super Audio and SCSI all wrapped up in one package! >The Noteworthy Multimedia Combo combines 16-bit stereo sound with a high performance SCSI II adapter in a single Plug & Play PC card. Featuring SCSI data transfers of over 10 megabytes per second and CD-quality sound. Use the Multimedia Combo to enjoy better sound for your favorite games, to create multimedia presentations on the road, and to connect up to seven SCSI peripherals to your portable. > >General Features: >SCSI > >.Fast SCSI II interface, includes Corel SCSI software .Supports up to seven SCSI devices at once .Over 10 MB/sec burst data transfer .Over 3 MB/sec sustained data transfer .Built in FIFO for high speed data transfer > >AUDIO > >.CD-quality, 16-bit stereo recording and playback .Microsoft Sound System Compatible .Analog and digital signal mixing .Up to 44.1 KHz sampling .16-bit stereo to 4-bit mono sampling .20 Voice MIDI/Adlib compatible synthesizer .HMI & AIL games compatible > >SYSTEM ARCHITECTURE >AUDIO: 32KB on-card DMA emulation >SCSI: 128 byte on-card FIFO buffer, on-card Active Termination > >.Form Factor .Complies with PCMCIA Release 2.1 or greater .Bundled Software .Microsoft Windows Sound System, Corel SCSI .Plug & Play drivers, Auto-Install .Diagnostics & Integrated Messaging > >Software Compatiblity >MIDI Play compatibility with .WAV Mixing, Microsoft Windows Windows 95, MS-DOS, Multimedia PC (MPC 2) > >Sampling Rate >Up to 44.1 KHz and 16-bit Stereo Sampling > >Interface Connections >36" cable with three 1/8" sound jacks and SCSI II interface, headset, microphone > >Compatible Systems >Toshiba and other Type II PC Card compliant computers without audio support One thing I think I wasn't clear in specifying is that it NEEDS to work with OS/2 Warp 4.0, and possibly Linux, though Linux support isn't required currently (until I can get a real cheap 12mm HD, any size). Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 30 00:35:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA191407314; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:35:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02374; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:34:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:33:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02259; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:33:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pcug.org.au (supreme.pcug.org.au [203.10.76.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02230; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from TACT (ts98.pcug.org.au [203.10.76.98]) by pcug.org.au (8.8.5/8.8.2/TIP-1.11) with SMTP id OAA27324; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:33:09 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:33:50 +1100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Neil Mclean" Subject: xircom 33.6 modem/combo ethernet card Message-Id: <870233630-0-nmclean@pcug.org.au> X-Mailer: IBM OS/2 Internet Mail Client Support for Lotus Notes X-Notes-Logo: StdNotesLtr34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Id: <870233630-1-nmclean@pcug.org.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu G'day all, Does anyone here use the above PCMCIA ethernet/modem card in their Thinkpad? I have a TP760CD and am having terrible problems getting the card to work reliably. I have freed up some interrupts for the card and have had the modem side working (no network connection to test it on yet) but it is not consistent. For example: It works fine when the card is warm, but on first boot up on a cool morning the modem responds extremely slowly to input. ie. In a simple terminal program window to type "AT " and expect an "OK" response takes forever. You have to press the letter "A" for near a second to register, same with the other keystrokes. When the card has warmed up fast keystrokes are accepted as expected. I notice that the card is very hot after being used for several minutes. Is this normal too? Thanks for any advice at all. Particularly from anyone with a TP760CD. Secondly - can anyone recommend a PCMCIA combo ethernet 33.6kbps modem for use in a TP760CD? /****************************/ /* Neil Mclean */ /* Canberra, Australia */ /****************************/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 30 03:33:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA240117983; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:33:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08958; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:32:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:30:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08655; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Komma.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (komma.fddi2.fu-berlin.de [160.45.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08226; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:28:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by Komma.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2) from localhost with smtp id ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:10:55 +0200 (MEST) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:10:55 +0200 (MEST) From: Christoph Eyrich X-Sender: eyrich@komma.fddi2.fu-berlin.de Reply-To: Christoph Eyrich To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE:looking for PCMCIA SCSI.....and sound and cheap ! In-Reply-To: <01BC9C4C.A90BC660@sfupc.Triumf.CA> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, tisol wrote: > New - Toshiba Noteworthy SCSI/Audio PC Card Multimedia Combo snip > Fast SCSI II interface, includes Corel SCSI software .Supports up to > seven SCSI devices at once .Over 10 MB/sec burst data transfer. > Over 3 MB/sec sustained data transfer .Built in FIFO for high speed data ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > transfer That's impossible as far as I know. The `classical' PCMCIA controller does not allow for more than 2MB/sec. Regards Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 30 03:47:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA243928865; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:47:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA11119; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:46:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA11037; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:46:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from skylink.skylink.net (skylink.skylink.net [206.25.34.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA11027; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tech1.skylink.net (tech1.skylink.net [207.49.183.20]) by skylink.skylink.net (8.8.5/4.1.4) with SMTP id AAA28887 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970730004337.007e8d60@mail.skylink.net> X-Sender: merlin@mail.skylink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:43:37 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Vernon Brooks Subject: Looking for PCMCIA SCSI, No Sound though Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am in search of a PCMCIA SCSI card for my TP701. I don't need the sound capability, as mine has sound already. I just need an inexpensive solution, so I can connect my SCSI CD-Rom, and devices yet to come. (would love to be able to scan on the fly, etc..) ---------- Vernon Brooks Skylink Networks Technical Support Las Vegas, NV (702) 260-0900 x228 Public Key available at (keyserver) pgpkeys.mit.edu or via finger. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 30 17:30:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA194288223; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:30:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24331; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:27:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24060; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:27:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hauki.clinet.fi (root@hauki.clinet.fi [194.100.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24044; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:27:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chipie (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by hauki.clinet.fi (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id AAA06842 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:27:02 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199707302127.AAA06842@hauki.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Thu, 31 Jul 97 00:26:45 +0300 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Iomega ZIP vs. JAZ X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.30a Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I'm about to replace the original 360MB drive in my TP701 with a 2.1GB Toshiba drive. I'd like to buy an Iomega external drive for backup purposes and I'm hesitating between the ZIP and the JAZ models. Could owners of either type comment on these devices? Is there any quirk to be aware of when used with a TP701? Will either model be fully supported under Warp and Linux? Everybody seems to be talking about ZIP but JAZ isn't that expensive anymore (taking the much bigger capacity into account) and it appears to be quite faster. Thanks, Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 30 18:12:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA207940774; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:12:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26231; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:11:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:10:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26072; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:10:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucia.u.arizona.edu (lucia.U.Arizona.EDU [128.196.137.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26056; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:10:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from erwin.opt-sci.arizona.edu (dmots.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU [128.196.206.107]) by lucia.u.arizona.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA47394 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:08:50 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970730151415.0069a134@pop.primenet.com> X-Sender: jke@pop.primenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:14:15 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "J. Kevin Erwin" Subject: modem question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ArialHi, I have an IBM PCMCIA 33.6 modem, which I am using on a ThinkPad 385CD laptop. The com port setting I am using in windows 95 is 57,600 baud. When connecting to Primenet (my internet provider) the modem sometimes dials, connects, makes the usual sounds modems make when connecting at 28.8/33.6, but then locks up with a steady tone. If I disconnect and redial it usually doesn't happen on the second try, although sometimes I have to do this twice. I can usually get connected eventually. Does anyone else have this problem? Is this normal? How can I prevent this from happening? Thanks J. Kevin Erwin From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 30 20:11:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA241257880; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:11:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29852; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:09:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29758; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29748; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:09:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09030; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:09:34 +1000 (EST) From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) id KAA01346; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:09:32 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:09:25 +1000 (EST) To: Dominique Pivard Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Iomega ZIP vs. JAZ In-Reply-To: <199707302127.AAA06842@hauki.clinet.fi> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, Dominique Pivard wrote: > I'm about to replace the original 360MB drive in my TP701 with a 2.1GB > Toshiba drive. I'd like to buy an Iomega external drive for backup > purposes and I'm hesitating between the ZIP and the JAZ models. Could > owners of either type comment on these devices? Is there any quirk to be > aware of when used with a TP701? Will either model be fully supported > under Warp and Linux? > i got a Jaz drive about a year ago, thinking at last i had solved my problem of back up that was ... large capacity, portable - including internationally when i travel, pcmcia, and would work with both a pc and mac (and unix if necessary). alas, i don't have time to list all the woes i have had - as well as those had by our very competent computer support person to whom i ended up turning for assistance. i ended up shifting from win 3.11 to win95 just to try to deal with the jaz drive problems i was having. absolutely no support available >from iomega. some points: 1. it did work with a mac i have without any problems. 2. some/many of the problems i had - even a month ago when i tried unsucessfully to use it with my tp760ED - may have been due to the pcmcia card i have, a new media bustoaster, or the tp/bustoaster/jaz interaction. 3. at the end one of my long night sessions about a year ago, when putting things away i dropped on of the Jaz disks about 4-6" (10-15cm) onto a plastic floppy diskette case. after that the Jaz disk made funny noises when inserted. the contents seemed readable at the time, but for how long i do not know (especially as i could not get the Jaz - or the bustoaster - to work with my current thinkpad). but, i think there is an inherent fragility to the Jaz disks, and among other things you have to compare it on this dimension against other storage media. 4. the whole system is propriety - you can only read a Jaz drive with a Jaz drive. once you get one you are locked into iomega for life. happy to be corrected on any of these points; would be most interested in hearing from anyone who has gotten a Jaz to work with a new media bustoaster, or any other (non-iomega!!) pcmcia card. be also interested in hearing of others' portable, small footprint, large capacity storage solutions. regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 30 20:36:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA247899406; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:36:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00697; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:35:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:30:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00502; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:30:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00487; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:30:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [207.155.184.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.6/(97/05/21 3.30)) id UAA22356; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:30:52 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from CRC3.Concentric.net (cnc137046.concentric.net [206.173.215.46]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.8.6) id UAA26227; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707310030.UAA26227@mcfeely.concentric.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:37:25 +0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Iomega ZIP vs. JAZ Reply-To: phong@concentric.net Priority: normal References: <199707302127.AAA06842@hauki.clinet.fi> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, I guess my experience with the Jaz drive is slightly different, probably because I don't use it with my Thinkpad. I replaced my SCSI tape backup unit on my Pentium tower with the Jaz drive. Now I use it not only for backups, but for storing the incredible amounts of Thinkpad drivers, software, etc. It saves me from having to dig through a pile of diskettes everytime I want to re-load something. My only complaints are very minor. 1. I had a hell of a time to configure the drive letters for the machine. Now that it's done however, I don't remember what I did to resolve it. 2. On occasion, my computer freezes and I have to reboot. When I wonder why my machine is so slow to boot, I realize that I have to pop out the Jaz cartridge and reinsert so the SCSI controller can see it. Other than that, I love the speed and format of it. Mind you, I was an avid user of the the Bernoulli Box when they had the 20MB cartridges. ... patrick > On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, Dominique Pivard wrote: > > > I'm about to replace the original 360MB drive in my TP701 with a 2.1GB > > Toshiba drive. I'd like to buy an Iomega external drive for backup > > purposes and I'm hesitating between the ZIP and the JAZ models. Could > > owners of either type comment on these devices? Is there any quirk to be > > aware of when used with a TP701? Will either model be fully supported > > under Warp and Linux? > > > > i got a Jaz drive about a year ago, thinking at last i had solved my problem > of back up that was ... large capacity, portable - including internationally > when i travel, pcmcia, and would work with both a pc and mac (and unix if > necessary). > > alas, i don't have time to list all the woes i have had - as well as those had > by our very competent computer support person to whom i ended up turning for > assistance. i ended up shifting from win 3.11 to win95 just to try to deal > with the jaz drive problems i was having. absolutely no support available > from iomega. > > some points: > > 1. it did work with a mac i have without any problems. > > 2. some/many of the problems i had - even a month ago when i tried > unsucessfully to use it with my tp760ED - may have been due to the pcmcia card > i have, a new media bustoaster, or the tp/bustoaster/jaz interaction. > > 3. at the end one of my long night sessions about a year ago, when putting > things away i dropped on of the Jaz disks about 4-6" (10-15cm) onto a plastic > floppy diskette case. after that the Jaz disk made funny noises when > inserted. the contents seemed readable at the time, but for how long i do not > know (especially as i could not get the Jaz - or the bustoaster - to work with > my current thinkpad). > > but, i think there is an inherent fragility to the Jaz disks, and among other > things you have to compare it on this dimension against other storage media. > > 4. the whole system is propriety - you can only read a Jaz drive with a Jaz > drive. once you get one you are locked into iomega for life. > > happy to be corrected on any of these points; would be most interested in > hearing from anyone who has gotten a Jaz to work with a new media bustoaster, > or any other (non-iomega!!) pcmcia card. > > be also interested in hearing of others' portable, small footprint, large > capacity storage solutions. > > regards, al > > Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 > Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia > 0200 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. email: phong@concentric.net Tel: (613) 769-1544 Fax: (613) 728-4063 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 30 21:43:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA266053417; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:43:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02381; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:40:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02203; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:40:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hq72.sd72.org (root@[207.194.101.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02186; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patpres.crcn.net (st36.net129.cn.camriv.bc.ca [206.12.129.36]) by hq72.sd72.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA02227; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:37:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199707310137.SAA02227@hq72.sd72.org> From: "Pat Presidente" To: "Dominique Pivard" , Subject: Re: Iomega ZIP vs. JAZ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:41:03 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu While not a 701 owner, I do have both a Jaz and Zip drive for my TP755 CDV. I operate them under Win 95 where both work well. I think your choice depends on planned usage. The Zip drive can connect through the parallel port and provides nice capacity for archiving data. As noted, it is quite a bit slower than the Jaz, but has advantages in portability. ie. you can attach it to any PC to move files (up to 100 meg) back and forth. Using the Iomega Guest software, you don't even need to install anything on the other machines. The Jaz is a SCSI device, hence requires an additional card. I have an Adaptec PCMCIA card in my TP and the Jaz works great with it. Because it is much faster than the Zip you can even install and run applications from the Jaz. Summary Zip - has portablility. Slow performance. Good for archiving data and applications. (100 meg disks). Jaz - lacks protability. additional card required. Performance good enough to run applications from it. (1 gig disks). Incidentally, I would be lost without either. I also have a 1.3 gig hd as my main drive and the original 810 in the ultra-bay. The problems of being a software junkie, I guess. :-) Hope this info is useful Pat pat.presidente@sd72.org -----Original Message----- From: Dominique Pivard To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Wednesday, July 30, 1997 2:26 PM Subject: Iomega ZIP vs. JAZ Hi, I'm about to replace the original 360MB drive in my TP701 with a 2.1GB Toshiba drive. I'd like to buy an Iomega external drive for backup purposes and I'm hesitating between the ZIP and the JAZ models. Could owners of either type comment on these devices? Is there any quirk to be aware of when used with a TP701? Will either model be fully supported under Warp and Linux? Everybody seems to be talking about ZIP but JAZ isn't that expensive anymore (taking the much bigger capacity into account) and it appears to be quite faster. Thanks, Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 30 22:19:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA274985553; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:19:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03543; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:18:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:18:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03469; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:18:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw00.execpc.com (sendmail@mailgw00.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03459; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:18:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earth (lee_js@earth.execpc.com [169.207.16.1]) by mailgw00.execpc.com (8.8.6) id VAA21815 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:18:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:18:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jay S. Lee" X-Sender: lee_js@earth To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad 760EL Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hey all, This probably has been asked a lot: Where are some less expensive sites to buy Thinkpad accessories such as cdrom drives and docks, compatible with the 760 series? Thanks, Jay PS I hope I wasn't off topic... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 30 22:41:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA281566893; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:41:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04350; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:40:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:40:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04231; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:40:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hq72.sd72.org (root@[207.194.101.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04221; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patpres.crcn.net (st36.net129.cn.camriv.bc.ca [206.12.129.36]) by hq72.sd72.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA02270 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:37:51 -0700 Message-Id: <199707310237.TAA02270@hq72.sd72.org> From: "Pat Presidente" To: Subject: SB 16 MWave hangup Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:41:12 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi all; I recently installed a newer version of Win 95 (Build 1111 B). After doing so I had to re-install my thinkpad software, putting in the latest MWave (2.25). I followed the directions and had it find the DSP device, then 33.6 modem, etc., but as soon as it recognizes the soundblaster 16, everything freezes. I then have to boot up in safe mode and remove all the software. I've done this numerous times with the same result. I then thought it must be the newer MWave, so went back and installed ver 2.22 - same symptom. Hence, I am now questioning the slightly newer version of Win 95. I called IBM tech support and they just had me re-initialize the bios and check the DSP from the TP setup screen. Everything checked out. If anyone has had a similar experience, or any clue about a solution, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks in advance Pat pat.presidente@sd72.org From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 30 23:29:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA294869753; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:29:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06010; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:28:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:27:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05897; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:27:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from callisto.si.usherb.ca (callisto.si.USherb.ca [132.210.10.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05887; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:27:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 17-0025.Residence.usherb.ca by callisto.si.usherb.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA31712; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:21:49 -0400 Received: by 17-0025.residence.usherb.ca with Microsoft Mail id <01BC9D40.2597BBA0@17-0025.residence.usherb.ca>; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:27:29 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC9D40.2597BBA0@17-0025.residence.usherb.ca> From: Fabian Rodriguez To: "'ThinkPad List'" Subject: Zip Drive battery pack Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:27:27 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi guys, I just wanted to know if anyone has used or owns the ZIPDrive attery pack? Is it worth it? I am considering buying one but... how long does it last? Fabian From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 30 23:42:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA298850568; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:42:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06486; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:41:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:40:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06377; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail01.citylinq.net ([207.173.198.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06367; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:40:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pele.wolfenet.com ([207.173.198.46]) by mail01.citylinq.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0122 ID# 201-33923U500L100S0) with SMTP id AAA172 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:40:17 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970730204055.006a9ccc@mail01.citylinq.net> X-Sender: peterl@mail01.citylinq.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:40:55 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Lewis Subject: iomega no mas Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My unhappy experience dealing with Iomega on my desktop forces me to advise against doing business with them. When a problem arose under Win95 getting the Iomega drive to be properly represented by its icon in My Computer, I encountered poorly trained tech support by phone (on my dime) and extremely slow response after faxing them a variety of files (why they preferred fax over email I cannot recall). I ended up returning the unit, and have been getting by without a zip drive. I'll probably buy another, but it won't be from Iomega. I've also read stories about them dumping a bunch of U.S. workers in favor of overseas (cheap) labor, which doesn't endear them to me either. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 30 23:43:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA299030602; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:43:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06634; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:42:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:42:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06509; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:42:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from skylink.skylink.net (skylink.skylink.net [206.25.34.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06499; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:42:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tech1.skylink.net (tech1.skylink.net [207.49.183.20]) by skylink.skylink.net (8.8.5/4.1.4) with SMTP id UAA07132 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970730203836.007ef2c0@mail.skylink.net> X-Sender: merlin@mail.skylink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:38:36 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Vernon Brooks Subject: Zip Drive battery pack Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >From: Fabian Rodriguez > >Hi guys, > >I just wanted to know if anyone has used or owns the ZIPDrive attery pack? Is it worth it? > >I am considering buying one but... how long does it last? > >Fabian I have one.. Pretty useful. Lasts 1-3 hours, depending upon usage. ---------- Vernon Brooks Skylink Networks Technical Support Las Vegas, NV (702) 260-0900 x228 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 31 00:53:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA019884789; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:53:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08551; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:50:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:49:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08461; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from deneb.dfn.de (deneb.dfn.de [192.76.176.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08446; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:49:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (root@rzgw.rz.fh-hannover.de [141.71.1.10]) by deneb.dfn.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id GAA06771; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 06:48:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from bidnix.ik.fh-hannover.de by unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA27196; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 06:45:07 +0200 Received: from discworld.beuel.rhein.de ([193.174.6.194]) by bidnix.ik.fh-hannover.de with esmtp (ident root using rfc1413) id m0wtnAS-000rHIC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Thu, 31 Jul 1997 06:48:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by discworld.beuel.rhein.de id m0wtnAP-000QhcC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Thu, 31 Jul 1997 06:48:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <19970731064848.03206@beuel.net> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 06:48:48 +0200 From: Hanno Wagner To: Alden S Klovdahl Cc: Dominique Pivard , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Iomega ZIP vs. JAZ References: <199707302127.AAA06842@hauki.clinet.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-md5; boundary="fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N" X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: ; from Alden S Klovdahl on Thu, Jul 31, 1997 at 10:09:25AM +1000 X-Disclaimer1: Eine weitere Verwendung oder die Veroeffentlichung X-Disclaimer2: dieser Mail oder dieser Mailadresse ist nur mit der X-Disclaimer3: Einwilligung des Autors gestattet. Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi! On July 31 1997, Alden S Klovdahl wrote: > 4. the whole system is propriety - you can only read a Jaz drive with a Jaz > drive. once you get one you are locked into iomega for life. Well - ZIP is the same; ditto also. There is no standard for these huge data storage systems except Backup Tapes like DAT. > be also interested in hearing of others' portable, small footprint, large > capacity storage solutions. For my thinkpad (it is an old 370C), I use a IC-CARD Ethernet Card (it emulates a DE-650) and the Adaptec 1460 SlimSCSI-PCMCIA-Card. I never had problems with this combination under Linux (the only system where you just can put out the card or insert it without causing a system crash :-) or WinNT. Ciao, Hanno -- | Hanno Wagner | Member of the HTML Writers Guild | Rince@IRC | | pgp-fingerprint: 7D C1 01 72 75 22 01 4F 6F 08 06 49 1B 02 4A A6 | | 74 a3 53 cc 0b 19 - we did it! | Famous last word: "The odds were on *my* side." --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i iQCVAwUBM9+orokABLrCbuiRAQGKuQP/bi/d+7xZ/AEUhtSaQXax/WH0U7JMTIqs GGtQcuH/1s33fmAYRpAMAAUTrxEkkihp3XnyuN3bsWb1FrTL0af2sobgeCqLUjpw hOGvmj6dDzYoqwUdXYbaKIrmUhDcTSBfYOPCus+179XtQuW5fhH6wJS0xViDcpfX NLaJwUdPENA= =/T4F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 31 04:50:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA086219017; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:50:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19876; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:49:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:48:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19707; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:48:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19687; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:48:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hbprft.usc.edu (hbprft.usc.edu [128.125.37.60]) by usc.edu (8.8.4/8.7.2/usc) with ESMTP id BAA04573 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camelot.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk (comserv-g-11.usc.edu [128.125.223.155]) by hbprft.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id BAA27832 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970731014519.00692cb4@hbprft.usc.edu> X-Sender: annala@hbprft.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:45:19 +0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: New Generation Digital Movies -- DVD on TP760CD? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know if a DVD solution exists for Thinkpad 760CD? We have hardware MPEG-2 decoder on board. Many of us have the Adaptec SlimSCSI adaptor installed. Perhaps there might be a software package for decoding DVD and a SCSI DVD compatible drive which might be combined for use in the TP760 notebooks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 31 04:50:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA086259019; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:50:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19849; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:49:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:48:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19714; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19692; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:48:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hbprft.usc.edu (hbprft.usc.edu [128.125.37.60]) by usc.edu (8.8.4/8.7.2/usc) with ESMTP id BAA04587 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camelot.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk (comserv-g-11.usc.edu [128.125.223.155]) by hbprft.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id BAA27836 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970731014645.00742c9c@hbprft.usc.edu> X-Sender: annala@hbprft.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:46:45 +0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Maximum Memory Capacity for Thinkpad 760CD?? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What is the maximum memory capacity of Thinkpad 760CD? Are there BIOS or other limits restricting use of high density DRAM chips? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 31 07:43:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA130329413; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:43:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02056; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:40:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:39:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01939; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from barney.usu.edu (barney.usu.edu [129.123.1.89]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01927; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:39:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foobar.usu.edu (asy55.xy1.usu.edu) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01ILVJ4EHRDYBCFJND@cc.usu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 05:39:18 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 05:41:55 -0600 From: "Greg A." Subject: Full duplex on 701cs To: ThinkPad Mailing list Reply-To: slppj@cc.usu.edu Message-Id: <33E07A03.6703@cc.usu.edu> Organization: USU Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, here's my problem. The manual claims that the sound in the 701cs is full duplex. However I've been unable to find an internet voice chat program that will recognize the sound card as such. The only program that's been able to utilize full duplex on this 701cs is the fax/telephony program that came with it, and I understand that this particular vesion of faxworks is written specifiaclly for the 701s. Has anyone had any luck getting full duplex out of the 701cs with anything besides the Faxworks program it came with? I'm hoping I can find an internet voice program that will be able to utilize full duplex. Thanks -Greg Alvandian From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 31 07:46:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA131119613; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:46:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02231; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:44:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:43:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02158; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net (relay-15.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02147; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:43:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moab.demon.co.uk ([158.152.127.170]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa0521426; 31 Jul 97 11:58 BST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:56:55 +0100 To: "Alexander J. Annala" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Greg Terrell Reply-To: Greg Terrell Subject: Re: Maximum Memory Capacity for Thinkpad 760CD?? In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970731014645.00742c9c@hbprft.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In message <3.0.1.32.19970731014645.00742c9c@hbprft.usc.edu>, "Alexander J. Annala" writes >What is the maximum memory capacity of Thinkpad 760CD? >Are there BIOS or other limits restricting use of high >density DRAM chips? > 48MB - the original 16MB plus 2 x 16MB. Can't answer your BIOS question. -- Greg Terrell From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 31 09:19:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA156075141; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:19:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05341; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:16:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:13:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05215; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:13:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05153; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:13:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com (ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.25]) by docws001.shl.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA47034 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:58:02 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC9D92.229DE350@ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com>; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:14:23 -0400 Message-Id: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: Alden S Klovdahl , Hanno Wagner , Dominique Pivard , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Iomega ZIP vs. JAZ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:17:46 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 44 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I know Epson has been selling ZIP drives, perhaps others... Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com ---------- From: Hanno Wagner[SMTP:wagner@beuel.net] Sent: 1997 July 31 - Thursday 00:49 To: Alden S Klovdahl Cc: Dominique Pivard; THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Iomega ZIP vs. JAZ Hi! On July 31 1997, Alden S Klovdahl wrote: > 4. the whole system is propriety - you can only read a Jaz drive with a Jaz > drive. once you get one you are locked into iomega for life. Well - ZIP is the same; ditto also. There is no standard for these huge data storage systems except Backup Tapes like DAT. > be also interested in hearing of others' portable, small footprint, large > capacity storage solutions. For my thinkpad (it is an old 370C), I use a IC-CARD Ethernet Card (it emulates a DE-650) and the Adaptec 1460 SlimSCSI-PCMCIA-Card. I never had problems with this combination under Linux (the only system where you just can put out the card or insert it without causing a system crash :-) or WinNT. Ciao, Hanno -- | Hanno Wagner | Member of the HTML Writers Guild | Rince@IRC | | pgp-fingerprint: 7D C1 01 72 75 22 01 4F 6F 08 06 49 1B 02 4A A6 | | 74 a3 53 cc 0b 19 - we did it! | Famous last word: "The odds were on *my* side." <> From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 31 09:28:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA158985724; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:28:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05943; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:25:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:23:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05812; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:23:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from docws007.shl.com (docws007.shl.com [159.249.56.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05802; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:23:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com (ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.25]) by docws007.shl.com (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA10032 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:23:47 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC9D93.A5C92EF0@ottmsooc02.ooc.shl.com>; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:25:12 -0400 Message-Id: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: Dominique Pivard , Alden S Klovdahl , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Iomega ZIP vs. JAZ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:24:49 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 73 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've been using a parallel port ZIP drive for about a year with no problems with my 701 & other computers under win95. Useful for backups, file transfer, and seldom used apps. For backups, I choose a whole directory structure to copy, or use PKZIP to maximally compress. ZIP disks are incrementally cheap - ~$20 cdn and hold 100 Mb JAZ disks are pricier & hold 1,000 Mb. Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect SHL Systemhouse Ltd. Ottawa Global Development Centre 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax 232-5182 ttrottier@shl.com ---------- From: Alden S Klovdahl[SMTP:Alden.Klovdahl@anu.edu.au] Sent: 1997 July 30 - Wednesday 20:09 To: Dominique Pivard Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Iomega ZIP vs. JAZ On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, Dominique Pivard wrote: > I'm about to replace the original 360MB drive in my TP701 with a 2.1GB > Toshiba drive. I'd like to buy an Iomega external drive for backup > purposes and I'm hesitating between the ZIP and the JAZ models. Could > owners of either type comment on these devices? Is there any quirk to be > aware of when used with a TP701? Will either model be fully supported > under Warp and Linux? > i got a Jaz drive about a year ago, thinking at last i had solved my problem of back up that was ... large capacity, portable - including internationally when i travel, pcmcia, and would work with both a pc and mac (and unix if necessary). alas, i don't have time to list all the woes i have had - as well as those had by our very competent computer support person to whom i ended up turning for assistance. i ended up shifting from win 3.11 to win95 just to try to deal with the jaz drive problems i was having. absolutely no support available >from iomega. some points: 1. it did work with a mac i have without any problems. 2. some/many of the problems i had - even a month ago when i tried unsucessfully to use it with my tp760ED - may have been due to the pcmcia card i have, a new media bustoaster, or the tp/bustoaster/jaz interaction. 3. at the end one of my long night sessions about a year ago, when putting things away i dropped on of the Jaz disks about 4-6" (10-15cm) onto a plastic floppy diskette case. after that the Jaz disk made funny noises when inserted. the contents seemed readable at the time, but for how long i do not know (especially as i could not get the Jaz - or the bustoaster - to work with my current thinkpad). but, i think there is an inherent fragility to the Jaz disks, and among other things you have to compare it on this dimension against other storage media. 4. the whole system is propriety - you can only read a Jaz drive with a Jaz drive. once you get one you are locked into iomega for life. happy to be corrected on any of these points; would be most interested in hearing from anyone who has gotten a Jaz to work with a new media bustoaster, or any other (non-iomega!!) pcmcia card. be also interested in hearing of others' portable, small footprint, large capacity storage solutions. regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 31 10:01:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA168037717; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:01:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07186; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:58:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:56:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06995; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net (punt-2b.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06984; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:56:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moab.demon.co.uk ([158.152.127.170]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa1217355; 31 Jul 97 11:28 BST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:39:07 +0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Greg Terrell Reply-To: Greg Terrell Subject: Re: Iomega ZIP vs. JAZ In-Reply-To: <199707310030.UAA26227@mcfeely.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi all I use a Jaz drive on ThinkPad 760CD and Tecra 720CDT using the Adaptec 1460 SlimSCSI PCMCIA Card. It was easy to set up and has proved easy to use. However, the first drive died after a few minutes. The supplier replaced it and that has, so far, proved reliable and extremely useful for backups and mass storage. I have no experience with Warp or Linux. I couldn't get the Jaz to work on my Pentium tower system where I use a NCR 53C810 SCSI card. The NCR ASPI driver kept rebooting the system and when it eventually recognised the Jaz it re-set the BIOS so it wouldn't recognise the SCSI adaptor at all - so I gave up and reverted to tape backup on that system! snip > >> On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, Dominique Pivard wrote: >> >> > I'm about to replace the original 360MB drive in my TP701 with a 2.1GB >> > Toshiba drive. I'd like to buy an Iomega external drive for backup >> > purposes and I'm hesitating between the ZIP and the JAZ models. Could >> > owners of either type comment on these devices? Is there any quirk to be >> > aware of when used with a TP701? Will either model be fully supported >> > under Warp and Linux? >> > snip -- Greg Terrell From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 31 10:16:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA172658616; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:16:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07795; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:09:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:07:14 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07624; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id KAA17527; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:07:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tom.compulink.co.uk (tom.compulink.co.uk [194.153.0.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15411; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:46:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by tom.compulink.co.uk (8.8.4/8.6.9) id IAA19561 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:46:27 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 97 08:45 BST-1 From: g_prosser@cix.compulink.co.uk (Gerry Prosser) Subject: Re: xircom 33.6 modem/combo ethernet card To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: g_prosser@cix.compulink.co.uk Reply-To: g_prosser@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <870233630-0-nmclean@pcug.org.au> We have been struggling with one of these at a client's site. On a 760XL, with no built-in cdrom, but added support for a BackPack and a pcmcia cdrom, we had the modem side working consistently well but no joy whatsoever with the ethernet half. We have temporarily abandoned the Xircom for two single-function cards (Optima and 3Com) but may return to the chase later. What OS/Version are you using ? Gerry -------- Original Message -------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jul 30 05:34:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by tom.compulink.co.uk (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id FAA09482 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 05:34:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02292; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:33:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02259; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:33:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pcug.org.au (supreme.pcug.org.au [203.10.76.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02230; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from TACT (ts98.pcug.org.au [203.10.76.98]) by pcug.org.au (8.8.5/8.8.2/TIP-1.11) with SMTP id OAA27324; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:33:09 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:33:50 +1100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Neil Mclean" Subject: xircom 33.6 modem/combo ethernet card Message-Id: <870233630-0-nmclean@pcug.org.au> X-Mailer: IBM OS/2 Internet Mail Client Support for Lotus Notes X-Notes-Logo: StdNotesLtr34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Id: <870233630-1-nmclean@pcug.org.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Apparently-To: g_prosser@cix.compulink.co.uk G'day all, Does anyone here use the above PCMCIA ethernet/modem card in their Thinkpad? I have a TP760CD and am having terrible problems getting the card to work reliably. I have freed up some interrupts for the card and have had the modem side working (no network connection to test it on yet) but it is not consistent. For example: It works fine when the card is warm, but on first boot up on a cool morning the modem responds extremely slowly to input. ie. In a simple terminal program window to type "AT " and expect an "OK" response takes forever. You have to press the letter "A" for near a second to register, same with the other keystrokes. When the card has warmed up fast keystrokes are accepted as expected. I notice that the card is very hot after being used for several minutes. Is this normal too? Thanks for any advice at all. Particularly from anyone with a TP760CD. Secondly - can anyone recommend a PCMCIA combo ethernet 33.6kbps modem for use in a TP760CD? /****************************/ /* Neil Mclean */ /* Canberra, Australia */ /****************************/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 31 12:21:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA207766100; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:21:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14843; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:18:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14607; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:18:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw00.execpc.com (sendmail@mailgw00.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14592; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:18:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earth (lee_js@earth.execpc.com [169.207.16.1]) by mailgw00.execpc.com (8.8.6) id LAA29250 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:18:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:18:11 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jay S. Lee" X-Sender: lee_js@earth To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Iomega ZIP vs. JAZ In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Though it would take a few years to transfer, there is a parallel adapter for Jaz also - probably would still be a little faster. Jay From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 31 12:39:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA212397188; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:39:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15773; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:34:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15687; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15664; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:34:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rwhittle.usc.edu ([128.125.48.175]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id JAA29892; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:33:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970731093257.008186e0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:33:29 -0700 To: "TROTTIER, Tom" From: Randal Whittle Subject: Removable Media (Was: Iomega ZIP vs. JAZ) Cc: Dominique Pivard , Alden S Klovdahl , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 09:24 AM 7/31/97 -0400, TROTTIER, Tom wrote: >3. at the end one of my long night sessions about a year ago, when putting >things away i dropped on of the Jaz disks about 4-6" (10-15cm) onto a plastic >floppy diskette case. after that the Jaz disk made funny noises when inserted. >the contents seemed readable at the time, but for how long i do not know I've been mulling over the thought of the SyJet 1.5 GB removable. PC/Computing rated it higher than the Jaz--faster, higher capacity, cheaper per MB. But of course, somewhat less popular than the Jaz. I was wondering if anyone had any comments regarding the durability/reliability of the SyJet media vs. Jaz (SyQuest says the SyJet media has a 20-year shelf life--pretty darn good, bested only by more expensive Magneto-Optical solutions and of course, burning CD-ROMs). ------- Randal J. Whittle whittle@usc.edu (213) 740-7775 Director, Electronic Commerce Program Marshall School of Business, University of Southern California From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 31 12:43:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA213947423; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:43:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16531; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:42:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:41:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16412; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:41:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16332; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:41:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14473; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04144; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by elroy.corp.Adobe.COM (8.7.5) with SMTP id JAA13453; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970731094103.00967d30@elroy> X-Sender: rlevenbe@elroy X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:41:03 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Richard Levenberg Subject: Problem with screen on 560 DSTN; opinions wanted Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I wanted your opinion on something. I bought a 560 DSTN machine about 3 weeks ago. When I received it I immediately put FreeBSD on it. After trying for some time to get X windows working on it I finally put XFree86 3.3 on it and it worked. Around this time I noticed an abberation on the screen and figured out it is right where the screen closes onto the trackpoint device. Upon closer inspection I noticed that there is an "image" on the screen that is like the ghosting of the trackpoint and the two rises on the wrist rest where it sinks in to make room for the buttons. If you dont have the 560 this is difficult to explain. My guess is somehow the clearance of the screen when the unit is closed is not very much and it is coming into contact with the highest points and damaging (albeit slowly) the screen. The ghost image is very visible under artificial light on the console. Under natural light it is harder to see unless the screen is colored like in X or EasySetup. My question is what can I do about this? If I send the unit into IBM's EasyServe are they going to determine it is my fault and charge me 170 for looking at it or is there something wrong with the unit (ie. clearance is not enough) or do others have this same problem and it is just a 'feature' of the 560? TIA for any opinions you may have on this subject. I read the list or you can email me directly. richardl From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 31 22:40:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA095153223; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:40:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15175; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:38:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15068; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from italy.it.earthlink.net (italy-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15058; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pool062-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool062-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.7.212]) by italy.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA23193; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 19:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708010237.TAA23193@italy.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Richard Levenberg" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 31 Jul 97 19:34:53 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Problem with screen on 560 DSTN; opinions wanted Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:41:03 -0700, Richard Levenberg wrote: >I wanted your opinion on something. I bought a 560 DSTN machine about 3 >weeks ago. When I received it I immediately put FreeBSD on it. After >trying for some time to get X windows working on it I finally put XFree86 >3.3 on it and it worked. > >Around this time I noticed an abberation on the screen and figured out it >is right where the screen closes onto the trackpoint device. Upon closer >inspection I noticed that there is an "image" on the screen that is like >the ghosting of the trackpoint and the two rises on the wrist rest where it >sinks in to make room for the buttons. If you dont have the 560 this is >difficult to explain. > >My guess is somehow the clearance of the screen when the unit is closed is >not very much and it is coming into contact with the highest points and >damaging (albeit slowly) the screen. The ghost image is very visible under >artificial light on the console. Under natural light it is harder to see >unless the screen is colored like in X or EasySetup. > >My question is what can I do about this? If I send the unit into IBM's >EasyServe are they going to determine it is my fault and charge me 170 for >looking at it or is there something wrong with the unit (ie. clearance is >not enough) or do others have this same problem and it is just a 'feature' >of the 560? > >TIA for any opinions you may have on this subject. I read the list or you >can email me directly. > >richardl > My computer dealer told me a friend of his had the same problem with his ThinkPad, which was NOT supposed to happen, so I think you should call IBM. Also, if you have trouble finding the image, here's a tip for everyone (I know this works on the 701, but I don't know for sure on other machines), press CRTL-PGUP or CRTL-PGDN to change the colors used in EasySetup. You have I think 4 or 5 preset options instead of the usual sky blue color. Paul Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jul 31 22:53:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA098483992; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:53:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15585; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:52:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:51:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15478; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:51:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net (denmark-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15468; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:51:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pool065-max6.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool065-max6.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.16.65]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA26941; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708010157.SAA26941@denmark.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Peter Lewis" , "rj" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 30 Jul 97 23:09:21 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701 HD compatibility Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 12 Jun 1997 13:07:18 -0400 (EDT), rj wrote: >FWIW I replaced my 701's 720MB HDD with a 1.3GB Toshiba MK-1301MAV >about a year ago and have not had the slightest problem, apparant >anyway. > >On Thu, 12 Jun 1997, Peter Lewis wrote: > >> >> IBM 701 tech support guy I spoke with today advised against installing any >> thing other than an IBM HD into the 701. He maintained that non IBM drives >> either wouldn't fit, or if they did fit, would not work because of a >> proprietary IBM connector. >> >> Clearly, there's a corporate self interest in saying this, and I gather >> from other posts to this list that many have successfully installed >> non IBM HDs into 701s. True, but oddly, I couldn't get my desktop to recognize my 720meg drive when I took it out of the caddy to install a "generic" Warp 4 installation on another machine with a CD-ROM. And what's interesting is that as I write this, that machine has 2 IBM 2.5" drives running fine on it right now (1 340meg from a 755CE, and a 250meg from my dead 355C). Maybe in a ways the IBM drive itself is proprietary, but I'm sure it can use non-IBM drives for the 701, though. Paul And for PEPsales: Do NOT reply to this if you are going to sell us something AGAIN. Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net