From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 1 10:29:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA110306198; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:29:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08608; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:29:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:24:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08395; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:24:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hermes.clara.net (root@hermes.clara.net [195.8.69.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08376; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:24:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from du-735.claranet.co.uk (du-735.claranet.co.uk [195.8.75.228]) by hermes.clara.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA20908 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:24:25 GMT From: nickdixon@clara.net (Nick Dixon) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: 365x problem Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 15:26:47 GMT Message-Id: <34fa7cda.285546@mail.clara.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi there, =46or some reason, when I start my thinkpad I hardly ever get that cute "IBM Thinkpad" start-up screen. It only happens very occasionally, instead I get a dos sized redish screen for a few seconds... Can anyone help? Nick From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 1 12:28:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA158133297; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:28:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12006; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:28:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:25:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11804; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:25:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.capecod.net (mailhost.capecod.net [204.255.214.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11792; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:25:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from capecod.net (camb573.capecod.net [209.113.228.65]) by mailhost.capecod.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA30127 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:25:17 -0500 Message-Id: <34F9993A.DD52AAAC@capecod.net> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 12:22:02 -0500 From: rdietric Reply-To: bigdaddy25@mindless.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Subject: TP 760XD and DVD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone tried to marry a TP760XD with a DVD, in or out of the Docking station? Thanx Bob From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 1 12:33:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA159953593; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:33:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12403; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:33:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:30:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12214; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:30:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12202; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:30:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA10483; Sun, 1 Mar 98 12:29:25 EST Date: Sun, 1 Mar 98 12:29:25 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803011729.AA10483@nile.gnat.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP770 + CD ROM (for sale) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a CD ROM drive (ultrabay internal model) for a TP770 that I do not need. If anyone is interested in it, make an offer! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 1 22:26:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA117039181; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:26:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28287; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:25:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:20:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27970; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:20:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from dogmead.dogmead.com (dogmead.dogmead.com [198.73.240.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27949; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:20:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.dogmead.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA14886; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:20:33 -0500 (EST) From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199803020320.WAA14886@dogmead.dogmead.com> Subject: Re: TP 760XD and DVD To: bigdaddy25@mindless.com Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:20:31 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <34F9993A.DD52AAAC@capecod.net> from "rdietric" at Mar 1, 98 12:22:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Has anyone tried to marry a TP760XD with a DVD, in or out of the Docking > station? I've installed a first-generation Toshiba DVD drive and a Sigma Designs Hollywood MPEG2 decoder board into a SelectaDock II, and tested it with my 120Mhz 760E. It worked OK, but 120Mhz isn't fast enough to avoid the occasional dropped frame from the decoder; this corresponds with Sigma Designs' claim that a 133Mhz or faster machine is required. An external monitor was required for this setup, since the MPEG board uses video overlay to display the decoded video stream. The DVD drive itself is just another IDE device that acts like a high-capacity CD-ROM. tim From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 2 03:01:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA232075663; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:01:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05781; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:00:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:00:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05681; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:00:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from theta2.ben2.ucla.edu (theta2.ben2.ucla.edu [164.67.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05669; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 02:59:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from camelot.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk (ciscoserv-227-017.usc.edu [128.125.227.17]) by theta2.ben2.ucla.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA22168 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 23:59:51 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980302000121.007712bc@mail.nuc.ucla.edu> X-Sender: aannala@mail.nuc.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 00:01:31 -0800 To: From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: 760 MWAVE 56K Software Upgrade? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know whether IBM can/will release a 56K upgrade for the MWAVE modem in TP760? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 2 07:27:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA038181669; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 07:27:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19235; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 07:27:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 07:21:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18994; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 07:21:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.capecod.net ([204.255.214.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18978; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 07:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from capecod.net (camb532.capecod.net [209.113.228.24]) by mailhost.capecod.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16390; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 07:19:18 -0500 Message-Id: <34FAA2EC.F5D8C5A9@capecod.net> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 07:15:40 -0500 From: rdietric Reply-To: bigdaddy25@mindless.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Tyhurst Cc: bigdaddy25@mindless.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 760XD and DVD References: <199803020320.WAA14886@dogmead.dogmead.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks for the info. I curious as to why you needed the MPEG board. Doesn't the 760E have built-in MPEG2 support like the 760XD? Bob Tim Tyhurst wrote: > > > Has anyone tried to marry a TP760XD with a DVD, in or out of the Docking > > station? > > I've installed a first-generation Toshiba DVD drive and a Sigma Designs > Hollywood MPEG2 decoder board into a SelectaDock II, and tested it with > my 120Mhz 760E. It worked OK, but 120Mhz isn't fast enough to avoid the > occasional dropped frame from the decoder; this corresponds with Sigma > Designs' claim that a 133Mhz or faster machine is required. > > An external monitor was required for this setup, since the MPEG board > uses video overlay to display the decoded video stream. > > The DVD drive itself is just another IDE device that acts like a > high-capacity CD-ROM. > > tim From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 2 09:57:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA102380660; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:57:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26742; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:56:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:45:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25670; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:45:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from sammy.netpathway.com (root@sammy.netpathway.com [208.137.139.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25655; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:45:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from egiles (port2-wayn.netpathway.com [208.137.139.199]) by sammy.netpathway.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA28203 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 08:45:17 -0600 Message-Id: <000e01bd45e9$4ce64da0$c78b89d0@egiles> From: "Eric Giles" To: Subject: Re: 760 MWAVE 56K Software Upgrade? Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 08:41:33 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It is very doubtful that IBM will ever release a 56K upgrade for the 760's with the Mwave processor. From what I understand, the Mwave system in these models does not have the power to handle a 56K modem connection. Heck, they have a hard enough time with a 28.8k connection and sound at the same time, and sound has to be disabled if you are online at a 33.6k connection. My advice? Buy a PC Card 56k modem and disable the internal Mwave modem. That's what I did when I had my 760ED, and the unit performed much better (no more crashes and lockups like I had when using the Mwave modem). The reason that the modem in the 770 can be software upgraded is because the DSP system has been upgraded to a more powerful processor. This system works much better and more reliably than the earlier Mwave systems, at least in my experience. Eric Giles -----Original Message----- From: Alexander J. Annala To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, March 02, 1998 2:01 AM Subject: 760 MWAVE 56K Software Upgrade? >Does anyone know whether IBM can/will release >a 56K upgrade for the MWAVE modem in TP760? > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 2 09:57:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA102370660; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:57:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26753; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:56:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:54:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26473; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:54:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from sammy.netpathway.com (root@sammy.netpathway.com [208.137.139.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26436; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:54:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from egiles (port2-wayn.netpathway.com [208.137.139.199]) by sammy.netpathway.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA28344 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 08:54:12 -0600 Message-Id: <001d01bd45ea$8b8a4380$c78b89d0@egiles> From: "Eric Giles" To: Subject: Re: TP 760XD and DVD Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 08:50:28 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu No, the 760E did not have the enhanced video adapter that the 760XD does. The earlier models that did have the MPEG-2 decoder built in were the 760CD (I think) and the 760ED. Also, the MPEG-2 that is used in these models really isn't 'true' MPEG-2, it is IBM's MPEG-2 HHR. HHR stands for half height resolution, which is the way IBM could get good playback using the 4X CD-ROM that was available for these models when they came out. I don't think that this system can decode the current DVD movies (though I may be wrong). Eric Giles -----Original Message----- From: rdietric To: Tim Tyhurst Cc: bigdaddy25@mindless.com ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, March 02, 1998 6:26 AM Subject: Re: TP 760XD and DVD >Thanks for the info. I curious as to why you needed the MPEG board. >Doesn't the 760E have built-in MPEG2 support like the 760XD? >Bob > >Tim Tyhurst wrote: >> >> > Has anyone tried to marry a TP760XD with a DVD, in or out of the Docking >> > station? >> >> I've installed a first-generation Toshiba DVD drive and a Sigma Designs >> Hollywood MPEG2 decoder board into a SelectaDock II, and tested it with >> my 120Mhz 760E. It worked OK, but 120Mhz isn't fast enough to avoid the >> occasional dropped frame from the decoder; this corresponds with Sigma >> Designs' claim that a 133Mhz or faster machine is required. >> >> An external monitor was required for this setup, since the MPEG board >> uses video overlay to display the decoded video stream. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 2 11:16:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA138705393; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:16:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02071; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:16:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:13:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01818; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:13:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01805; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:13:49 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mmurphre (user-38lcge1.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.65.193]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA09441 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:13:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803021613.LAA09441@camel7.mindspring.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:00:18 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Changing my address Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've changed my Email address from michaelm@piedmont.net to mmurphree@mindspring.com. Can you please send to my new address? Thanks much, Michael M Murphree From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 2 17:13:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA010266804; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:13:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27169; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:03:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:00:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26847; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:00:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mb1.mailbank.com (mb1.mailbank.com [204.244.193.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26822; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:00:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from a1a83719.sympatico.bconnected.net [209.53.4.133] (HELO DavidS.Crombie.bconnected.net) by mb1.mailbank.com (AltaVista Mail V2.0H/2.0H BL25H listener) id 0000_0120_34fb_2b73_8145; Mon, 02 Mar 1998 13:58:11 -0800 Message-Id: <009701bd4626$23dc8cc0$850435d1@DavidS.Crombie.bconnected.net> From: "David Crombie" To: Subject: FS: 365xd memory Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:56:44 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu For Sale: 8MB & 16MB memory chips for Thinkpad 365xseries notebooks. Will take best offers. email: dcrombie@iname.com. BTW - I know these chips work in other machines (760??) - does anybody know which ones?? ______________________ David S. Crombie david@crombie.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 2 19:59:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA061356742; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:59:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04177; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:51:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:49:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04032; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:49:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from ntserver.margi.com (ntserver.margi.com [208.223.140.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04020; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:49:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from bryan (208.223.140.114) by ntserver.margi.com (Worldmail 1.3.167) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; 2 Mar 1998 16:48:51 -0800 Received: by bryan with Microsoft Mail id <01BD45FB.18927080@bryan>; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:48:58 -0800 Message-Id: <01BD45FB.18927080@bryan> From: Bryan Edwards To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: subscribe Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:48:57 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu subscribe Bryan Edwards Channel Sales Manager Margi Systems Phone: 510.657.4435 x 22 e-mail: bedwards@margi.com web: www.margi.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 3 00:04:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA122241487; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:04:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14438; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:59:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14267; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:59:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14182; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:59:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from p29.hwts09.loop.net (p29.hwts09.loop.net [207.211.62.74]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA23309; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:58:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pkhoury@loop.com) Message-Id: <199803030458.UAA23309@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "David Crombie" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 02 Mar 98 20:58:33 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FS: 365xd memory Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:56:44 -0800, David Crombie wrote: >For Sale: 8MB & 16MB memory chips for Thinkpad 365xseries notebooks. Will >take best offers. email: dcrombie@iname.com. > >BTW - I know these chips work in other machines (760??) - does anybody know >which ones?? I think there must be a STANDARD for SO-DIMMS. I took a Visiontek 16MB SO-DIMM from a dead Gateway Solo, and it works happily in my 701. And for the record, the performance in Warp 4 improves as if I upgraded to a Pentium 66 or something like that. Anyways, I think the 365's memory is compatible with the 701, and what ever else uses 3.3V 70ns SO-DIMMS, though IBM won't admit it. But don't hold me responsible if I'm wrong... -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (If you get an error, then the server is not online) Sent from my P75 Server The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 23 Processes with 85 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 23h 33m 36s 484ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 3 00:05:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA122311513; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:05:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14028; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:57:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:56:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13855; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:56:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13836; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:55:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from p29.hwts09.loop.net (p29.hwts09.loop.net [207.211.62.74]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA22940; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:54:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pkhoury@loop.com) Message-Id: <199803030454.UAA22940@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "mmurphree@pop.mindspring.com" Date: Mon, 02 Mar 98 20:54:46 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Changing my address Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:00:18 +0000, mmurphree@pop.mindspring.com wrote: >Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >X-UIDL: 718ce2d421b987bea4898b24c0bfed60 >Status: U > >I've changed my Email address from michaelm@piedmont.net to >mmurphree@mindspring.com. Can you please send to my new address? > Note the headers about (un)subscribing. You should UNsubscribe the old address first, then SUBscribe the new address. Maybe we could add this to the FAQ when people first subscribe, and have a command such as "request newuserinfo" for those who lose this information. Keith, are you listening (the list admin)? -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (If you get an error, then the server is not online) Sent from my P75 Server The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 23 Processes with 86 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 23h 29m 51s 312ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 3 00:05:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA122361515; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:05:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14908; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:03:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:01:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14630; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14595; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:01:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from p29.hwts09.loop.net (p29.hwts09.loop.net [207.211.62.74]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA23569; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:00:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pkhoury@loop.com) Message-Id: <199803030500.VAA23569@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Bryan Edwards" Date: Mon, 02 Mar 98 21:00:54 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: subscribe Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:48:57 -0800, Bryan Edwards wrote: >Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >X-UIDL: b6925a93e2857af68d3f5c00c05a9822 >Status: U > >subscribe Again, the way to subscribe is in the headers. I find it helpful to have view of headers turned on in your mailer in case of messages like this. To subscribe, send email to thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu, and in the body, simply type subscribe bedwards@margi.com (or whatever your email address is), and simply send. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (If you get an error, then the server is not online) Sent from my P75 Server The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 23 Processes with 85 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 23h 35m 57s 570ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 3 04:56:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA154258971; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:56:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01410; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:55:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:51:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01194; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:51:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01180; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from wonwiije (1Cust155.tnt1.sumter.sc.da.uu.net [208.254.84.155]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA16955 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:51:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <000701bd4689$e1d15c20$9b54fed0@wonwiije> From: "The Hildreths" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: subscribe Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:50:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD465F.E986B980" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD465F.E986B980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable subscribe ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD465F.E986B980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD465F.E986B980-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 3 11:48:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA200043710; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:48:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22497; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:37:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22051; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:37:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (mail-oak-2.pilot.net [198.232.147.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22006; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (unknown-8-248.jud.state.ca.us [206.81.8.248] (may be forged)) by mail-oak-2.pilot.net with SMTP id IAA09299 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:36:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 000395CE; Tue, 3 Mar 98 08:25:33 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:25:58 -0800 Message-Id: <000395CE.1225@jud.ca.gov> From: Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) Subject: FS: Dock II w/stuff To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu For sale: Dock II with a Thinkpad 701 Adapter and a SCSI 8x CD-ROM. All documents (not much) and cables, plus original carton It's been used for about 1 year or so. $265 or best offer for the bundle. I will not unbundle the group. If I have to ship it to you, figure $15 more. Email to mitchyee@slipnet.com or mitchell_yee@jud.ca.gov thanks for the indulgence of the group. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 3 13:24:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA220059482; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:24:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28212; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:15:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:12:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27967; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:12:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (mail-oak-2.pilot.net [198.232.147.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27910; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (unknown-8-248.jud.state.ca.us [206.81.8.248] (may be forged)) by mail-oak-2.pilot.net with SMTP id KAA10819 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:11:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 000396B0; Tue, 3 Mar 98 10:13:40 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:14:31 -0800 Message-Id: <000396B0.1225@jud.ca.gov> From: Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) Subject: re: Dock II w/stuff To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The Dock II that I had previously posted for sale has been sold. Thanks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 3 13:37:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA222740242; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:37:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29023; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:26:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:25:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28926; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from amsterdam.interport.net (amsterdam.interport.net [199.184.165.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28895; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:25:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from usrts3p219.port.net (usrts3p219.port.net [207.237.106.219]) by amsterdam.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA15713 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:24:58 -0500 (EST) From: rpritz@interport.net (richard) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 64mb on 560? Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 13:24:52 -0500 Message-Id: <35014a53.17257214@mail.interport.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Can I run a 64mb ram module on my 560? According to IBM's website, 64mb only works with the 560e and 560x. However, a number of vendors claim that you can use 64mb in the 560. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 3 15:35:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA241607312; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:35:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05889; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:20:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:16:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05198; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:16:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05164; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:15:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from p04.hwts04.loop.net (p04.hwts04.loop.net [207.211.61.139]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA22376; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:14:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803032014.MAA22376@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "The Hildreths" Date: Tue, 03 Mar 98 06:38:24 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: subscribe Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:50:38 -0500, The Hildreths wrote: >Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > >subscribe Remember , send to THIS address in the headers, and type in the body: subscribe bhildreth@earthlink.net -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (the above url only works when the server is running) Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS running OS/2 Warp 4 The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 23 Processes with 83 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 17h 34m 58s 664ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 3 15:44:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA243147849; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:44:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05893; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:17:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05275; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (mail-oak-2.pilot.net [198.232.147.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05180; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:15:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (unknown-8-248.jud.state.ca.us [206.81.8.248] (may be forged)) by mail-oak-2.pilot.net with SMTP id MAA20866; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:15:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00039800; Tue, 3 Mar 98 12:18:31 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:19:07 -0800 Message-Id: <00039800.1225@jud.ca.gov> From: Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, rpritz@interport.net (richard) Subject: Re: 64mb on 560? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.113659888" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --IMA.Boundary.113659888 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Since I just went thru this exact experience, I'll share it with the group: Yes, you can stick a 64 MB ram module on a 560, even a non-560E or 560X. BUT, beware: The long story: I just bought a 560 (P133/12.1 TFT) that came with only 8 MB RAM. I already have a 760XL with a 64 MB module (from the Chip Merchant). Of course, I just had to try it in the 560 and VOILA - the 560 talks to it and works with it fine. So, I ordered another 64 MB module from the Chip Merchant, asking for a 64 MB module. With the first module, the 560 wouldn't even boot up. With the second module, the 560 did boot up, but constantly crashed. So, I did the logical thing - swapped modules. Both machines are now very happy. The additional memory really makes a difference with Win95. Moral: I'm not sure - the part numbers and the chip numbers look the same, although I'm not a chip part number expert. The timing is the same. But, there must be a difference between the SIMMs. If anyone would care to translate, I'll email them the chip numbers. Mitchell ps: the 560 was bought thru surplusdirect. It was a refurbished 560, but the price was (and is) amazing: $1199 - $150 for the order processing screw-up (on their part). No, it doesn't seem like they have any more at that price now. pps: I am not an employee of either Chip Merchant or Surplus Direct. But I am a happy customer of both since both vendors were both very willing to work with me to make sure I was a happy camper. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: 64mb on 560? Author: rpritz@interport.net (richard) at Internet Date: 3/3/98 1:24 PM Can I run a 64mb ram module on my 560? According to IBM's website, 64mb only works with the 560e and 560x. However, a number of vendors claim that you can use 64mb in the 560. --IMA.Boundary.113659888 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from mail-oak-1.pilot.net (198.232.147.16) by ima.jud.ca.gov with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00039704; Tue, 3 Mar 98 10:36:29 -0800 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by mail-oak-1.pilot.net with ESMTP id KAA12605 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:33:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29031; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:26:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:25:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28926; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from amsterdam.interport.net (amsterdam.interport.net [199.184.165.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28895; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:25:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from usrts3p219.port.net (usrts3p219.port.net [207.237.106.219]) by amsterdam.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA15713 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:24:58 -0500 (EST) From: rpritz@interport.net (richard) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 64mb on 560? Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 13:24:52 -0500 Message-ID: <35014a53.17257214@mail.interport.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --IMA.Boundary.113659888-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 3 16:07:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA246729251; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:07:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08935; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:49:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:48:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08832; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:48:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08669; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from p04.hwts04.loop.net (p04.hwts04.loop.net [207.211.61.139]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA26452; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:46:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803032046.MAA26452@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Mitchell Yee" , "richard" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 03 Mar 98 12:48:52 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 64mb on 560? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:19:07 -0800, Mitchell Yee wrote: > Since I just went thru this exact experience, I'll share it > with the group: > > Yes, you can stick a 64 MB ram module on a 560, even a non-560E > or 560X. BUT, beware: > > The long story: > > I just bought a 560 (P133/12.1 TFT) that came with only 8 MB RAM. > I already have a 760XL with a 64 MB module (from the Chip Merchant). > Of course, I just had to try it in the 560 and VOILA - the 560 talks > to it and works with it fine. > > So, I ordered another 64 MB module from the Chip Merchant, asking > for a 64 MB module. With the first module, the 560 wouldn't even > boot up. With the second module, the 560 did boot up, but constantly > crashed. So, I did the logical thing - swapped modules. Both > machines are now very happy. The additional memory really makes > a difference with Win95. > > Moral: I'm not sure - the part numbers and the chip numbers > look the same, although I'm not a chip part number expert. The timing > is the same. But, there must be a difference between the SIMMs. > If anyone would care to translate, I'll email them the chip numbers. > I could try. Email them to me. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (the above url only works when the server is running) Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS running OS/2 Warp 4 The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 22 Processes with 83 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 19h 51m 50s 390ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 3 16:42:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA252001376; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:42:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12323; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:34:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:32:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12145; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:32:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from services.state.mo.us (services.state.mo.us [168.166.2.67]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12050; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:32:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mmillsl ([168.166.5.7]) by services.state.mo.us (8.8.3/8.8.0) with SMTP id PAA25987; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:30:51 -0600 (CST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:39:20 -0600 Message-Id: <8445A19B4CB2D1119EBC40000104F010051A6B@ECOEXCHG> From: Lewis Mills Reply-To: "lmills@socket.net" To: "'Paul Khoury'" , ThinkPad List Subject: RE: subscribe Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:28:18 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi Paul, Although it is very nice that you have taken it upon yourself to help the lost souls who have trouble subcribing and unsubscribing, it is really not necessary for you to respond to the entire list. I think a note directly to them would be sufficient. Lewis -----Original Message----- From: Paul Khoury [SMTP:pkhoury@loop.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 3:23 PM To: ThinkPad List; The Hildreths Subject: Re: subscribe On Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:50:38 -0500, The Hildreths wrote: >Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > >subscribe Remember , send to THIS address in the headers, and type in the body: subscribe bhildreth@earthlink.net -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (the above url only works when the server is running) Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS running OS/2 Warp 4 The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 23 Processes with 83 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 17h 34m 58s 664ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 3 18:08:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA265886512; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:08:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20219; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:59:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:57:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19826; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:57:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (mail-oak-2.pilot.net [198.232.147.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19814; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:57:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (unknown-8-248.jud.state.ca.us [206.81.8.248] (may be forged)) by mail-oak-2.pilot.net with SMTP id OAA10701 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:57:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00039946; Tue, 3 Mar 98 15:00:04 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:00:54 -0800 Message-Id: <00039946.1225@jud.ca.gov> From: Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) Subject: FS: 701 hard drives + caddy To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu For sale: 340 MB 12.7 mm hard drive w/Thinkpad 701 caddy 720 MB 12.7 mm hard drive - NO caddy both drives have been erased. $150 or best offer for the group. I can't split the group. I won't be insulted by low offers - you probably won't get the drives though. email: mitchyee@slipnet.com or mitchell_yee@jud.ca.gov sorry for two postings - I forgot to add this stuff to the Dock II post. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 3 20:25:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA284464752; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:25:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01812; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:22:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01610; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.missouri.edu (mail.missouri.edu [128.206.2.169]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01594; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:21:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from Mizzou-AS7-33.missouri.edu (Mizzou-AS7-33.missouri.edu [128.206.209.81]) by mail.missouri.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA136218 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:21:51 -0600 From: c311353@showme.missouri.edu (John Hagar) To: ThinkPad List Subject: 810 meg for 360c? Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 01:19:55 GMT Message-Id: <34fcac0c.3794207@pop.missouri.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu will a standard 2.5" drive (810) fit in the plastic carrier? Thanks *************** ** ** *** HAGAR SENDS *** **** **** *********************************** ***** ***** **** John Hagar **** ** ** ** ** *** PAGER (573) 499-7820 (Pager) *** ***** ***** *********************************** ** ** From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 3 20:27:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA284584821; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:27:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01825; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:23:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:21:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01539; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:21:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.missouri.edu (mail.missouri.edu [128.206.2.169]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01527; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:21:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from Mizzou-AS7-33.missouri.edu (Mizzou-AS7-33.missouri.edu [128.206.209.81]) by mail.missouri.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA167522 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:21:01 -0600 From: c311353@showme.missouri.edu (John Hagar) To: ThinkPad List Subject: Pencil eraser mouse on a 360 - fixable? Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 01:19:04 GMT Message-Id: <34fca969.3118718@pop.missouri.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu anywhere to fix that little booger? *************** ** ** *** HAGAR SENDS *** **** **** *********************************** ***** ***** **** John Hagar **** ** ** ** ** *** PAGER (573) 499-7820 (Pager) *** ***** ***** *********************************** ** ** From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 3 22:02:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA298730554; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:02:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06091; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:00:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:59:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05977; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:59:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (erich.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05955; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 03 Mar 1998 18:59:39 PST From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: "John Hagar" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: 810 meg for 360c? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:02:38 -0800 Message-Id: <01bd4719$fd6a5280$03785a8e@pmachule> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Yes .but ;-} The pinout of newer IBM drives and Toshibas is slightly different for the master/slave default. If you use an old plastic carrier you have to lift a pin ( or short 2 pins) One of these days I'll look it up (grin) Check IBM's web page for the 340 Mb pinout vs the 810's ...it should be obvious. As to height and anything else... no problem. ..peter.. BTW I have a few of those "plastic Carriers" left. $35 plus $2 for transpo. -----Original Message----- From: John Hagar To: ThinkPad List Date: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 5:22 PM Subject: 810 meg for 360c? >will a standard 2.5" drive (810) fit in the plastic carrier? > >Thanks > > *************** > ** ** > *** HAGAR SENDS *** > **** **** > *********************************** > ***** ***** > **** John Hagar **** > ** ** > ** ** > *** PAGER (573) 499-7820 (Pager) *** > ***** ***** > *********************************** > ** ** From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 3 22:06:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA299520801; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:06:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06492; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:04:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:03:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06406; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (erich.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06361; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:03:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 03 Mar 1998 19:02:58 PST From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: Pencil eraser mouse on a 360 - fixable? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:05:57 -0800 Message-Id: <01bd471a$743082e0$03785a8e@pmachule> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Do you mean replace the tip or is it brocken ?? Need more detail. ..peter If it's not brocken ..just worn out; you can buy new ones. About $5-$6 canadian for 3. Subject: Pencil eraser mouse on a 360 - fixable? >anywhere to fix that little booger? > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 4 00:46:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA023990389; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:46:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11209; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:53:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:50:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10882; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:50:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10860; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:50:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from p28.hwts04.loop.net (p28.hwts04.loop.net [207.211.61.163]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA29506; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:49:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803040449.UAA29506@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "John Hagar" Date: Tue, 03 Mar 98 20:52:31 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Pencil eraser mouse on a 360 - fixable? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 04 Mar 1998 01:19:04 GMT, John Hagar wrote: What's wrong with it? -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (the above url only works when the server is running) Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS running OS/2 Warp 4 The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 23 Processes with 83 Threads. This machine's uptime is 1d 1h 1m 9s 804ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 4 00:48:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA024080507; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:48:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11252; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:51:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10976; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10960; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:51:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from p28.hwts04.loop.net (p28.hwts04.loop.net [207.211.61.163]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA29602; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:50:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803040450.UAA29602@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "John Hagar" Date: Tue, 03 Mar 98 20:53:30 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 810 meg for 360c? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 04 Mar 1998 01:19:55 GMT, John Hagar wrote: >will a standard 2.5" drive (810) fit in the plastic carrier? > It should, but you might need to us Ontrack's drive translation program, because that machine is not EIDE. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (the above url only works when the server is running) Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS running OS/2 Warp 4 The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 23 Processes with 83 Threads. This machine's uptime is 1d 1h 2m 10s 359ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 4 09:31:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA083081859; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:30:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05414; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:28:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:26:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05187; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:26:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from vsntz20.vps.no ([193.213.205.165]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05145; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:24:51 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from nosln1.nos.no (unverified [193.215.141.70]) by vsntz20.vps.no (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Wed, 04 Mar 1998 15:17:16 -0800 Received: by nosln1.nos.no(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id C12565BD.004EEE9C ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:22:08 +0100 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: NOS To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:22:04 +0100 Subject: TP770, OS/2, PCMCIA EtherJet and Screen Problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Still got the problems with screen going blank, even after Hardware detection off, and no Sound-blaster A more major problem is as follows. I am trying to use IBM PCMCIA EtherJet PC Card. Having downloaded the latest drivers for this card (12-97), I get SYS1719 message, that IBMEXNDI.OS2 is not a valid driver. Trying an older device driver, I also experience that the Thinkpad is very sesitive to the card, Inserting the Card with cable, makes a total Crash, I must remove the battery and the power Cable to be able to repoot the PC. In the PC Card director file I find that the PCMCIA EtherJet Card is not listet as a tested Card. Would another Card be a better solution? Can anyone help? Best Regards Gunnar Berthelsen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 4 21:52:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA198866337; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:52:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16437; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:50:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:49:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16350; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:49:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16319; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:49:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA23010; Wed, 4 Mar 98 21:47:53 EST Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 21:47:53 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803050247.AA23010@nile.gnat.com> To: Gunnar_Berthelsen@nos.no, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP770, OS/2, PCMCIA EtherJet and Screen Problems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I think the screen going blank problem is most likely a problem with the video driver itself. It happens to me every now and then whether or not I have a PCMCIA card. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 4 21:57:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA200236643; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:57:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14594; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:12:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:06:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14060; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:06:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.missouri.edu (mail.missouri.edu [128.206.2.169]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14043; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:06:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from Mizzou-AS3-06.missouri.edu (Mizzou-AS3-06.missouri.edu [128.206.205.102]) by mail.missouri.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA204806 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:06:47 -0600 From: c311353@showme.missouri.edu (John Hagar) To: ThinkPad List Subject: thanks for help on trakpoint and 810meg HD. Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 02:04:50 GMT Message-Id: <34fe0800.2685424@pop.missouri.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks to those who sent ideas about the trakpoint and HD. Hagar sends *************** ** ** *** HAGAR SENDS *** **** **** *********************************** ***** ***** **** John Hagar **** ** ** ** ** *** PAGER (573) 499-7820 (Pager) *** ***** ***** *********************************** ** ** From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 4 22:01:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA200616882; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:01:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14610; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:12:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:05:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13950; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:05:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.missouri.edu (mail.missouri.edu [128.206.2.169]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13869; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:05:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from Mizzou-AS3-06.missouri.edu (Mizzou-AS3-06.missouri.edu [128.206.205.102]) by mail.missouri.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA193138; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:05:21 -0600 From: c311353@showme.missouri.edu (John Hagar) To: "Paul Khoury" , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Pencil eraser mouse on a 360 - fixable? Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 02:03:22 GMT Message-Id: <34fe0745.2498066@pop.missouri.edu> References: <199803040449.UAA29506@stevie.loop.com> In-Reply-To: <199803040449.UAA29506@stevie.loop.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 03 Mar 98 20:52:31 , you wrote: >On Wed, 04 Mar 1998 01:19:04 GMT, John Hagar wrote: > The trackpoint, if enabled, will not allow the machine to boot. I have to disable it and use a good ol' mouse. before it really screwed up, it would only go horizontal. I prefer the mouse, but to sell this junker and get a toshiba I need the trakpoint to work. *************** ** ** *** HAGAR SENDS *** **** **** *********************************** ***** ***** **** John Hagar **** ** ** ** ** *** PAGER (573) 499-7820 (Pager) *** ***** ***** *********************************** ** ** From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 4 22:55:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA208190105; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:55:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18448; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:23:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:21:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18122; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:21:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from wuff.mayn.de (root@wuff.mayn.de [194.95.209.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18107; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:21:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from datenbus.mayn.de(really [194.95.209.23]) by wuff.mayn.de via smail with smtp id for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 04:19:57 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jun-10) Received: from bedrock by datenbus.mayn.de with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yARCM-000tj9A; Thu, 5 Mar 98 04:19 CET Received: by bedrock.mayn.de (UUPC/extended 1.12j); Thu, 05 Mar 1998 00:21:56 +0100 Message-Id: <34fde214.bedrock@bedrock.mayn.de> From: "Rainer Feuerstein" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Thu, 05 Mar 98 00:21:55 +0100 Reply-To: "Rainer Feuerstein" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 X-Mailer-Gate: PMMail<->UUPC/extended Gateway v1.01 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Replacing HD with standard 2.5"? Sender: Rainer Feuerstein Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I presume I'm not the first who asks this question, so feel free to answer via EMail if this is a FAQ. I'd like to upgrade the HD (currently 2.1GB in the typical UltraBay HD shell) of my 760ED. Now, is it possible to - open my existing case (how?), - remove the old HD, - insert the new HD (IBM DPLA25120) and - just use it? Or is there something special about Ultra Bay HDs / HD shells? --- kind regards, Rainer Feuerstein From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 4 22:57:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA208430236; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:57:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18419; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:23:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:21:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18189; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from wuff.mayn.de (root@wuff.mayn.de [194.95.209.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18131; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:21:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from datenbus.mayn.de(really [194.95.209.23]) by wuff.mayn.de via smail with smtp id for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 04:19:57 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jun-10) Received: from bedrock by datenbus.mayn.de with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yARCM-000tj5A; Thu, 5 Mar 98 04:19 CET Received: by bedrock.mayn.de (UUPC/extended 1.12j); Thu, 05 Mar 1998 00:07:57 +0100 Message-Id: <34fddecd.bedrock@bedrock.mayn.de> From: "Rainer Feuerstein" To: "Gunnar_Berthelsen@nos.no" Cc: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Thu, 05 Mar 98 00:07:54 +0100 Reply-To: "Rainer Feuerstein" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 X-Mailer-Gate: PMMail<->UUPC/extended Gateway v1.01 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP770, OS/2, PCMCIA EtherJet and Screen Problems Sender: Rainer Feuerstein Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:22:04 +0100, Gunnar_Berthelsen@nos.no wrote: >Would another Card be a better solution? I never tried an IBM PCMCIA EtherJet PC Card, but I can tell you my experiences with both 10 and 100 MBit cards: __________________ 10 MBit: __________________ I had a 3com 3c589d Combo first. This card was perfect, I never had a problem with it, but I needed a 100 MBit card then. I sold it to antother OS/2 user who is very satisfied with it. The only problem he had was on Win95: He had to boot in secure mode and set the card resources there. The following cards should work without problems: - 3com 3c589d - D-Link DE-650 __________________ 100 MBit: __________________ I have a "Xircom Credit Card Ethernet Adapter 10/100 Ready" (100 MBit) in my 760ED, but I had a lot of trouble making it work together with my Adaptec SlimSCSI in the other slot. LinkSys' EtherFast is the first 100 MBit card I heard of that comes with Drivers for OS/2 that *use socket services* (!). All other cards (Xircom, D-Link, Intel, ...) use a direct enabler AFAIK. This should not be a problem, but I wasn't able to turn off socket services for only 1 slot reliably with IBM's drivers (I had to install other pcmcia drivers). Now the xircom works on all my OSs: OS/2 Warp 4, NT 4.0, SuSE Linux 5.0 (2.0.33) and DOS/WfW. Nonetheless I'd recommend buying a LinkSys. See www.linksys.com for details. The following cards should work without problems: - LinkSys EtherFast --- kind regards, Rainer Feuerstein From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 4 23:25:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA213101904; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:25:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20746; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:14:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:13:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20661; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:13:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20612; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:12:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from p24.hwts06.loop.net (p24.hwts06.loop.net [207.211.61.219]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA16201; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:10:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pkhoury@loop.com) Message-Id: <199803050410.UAA16201@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Rainer Feuerstein" Date: Wed, 04 Mar 98 20:11:17 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Replacing HD with standard 2.5"? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 05 Mar 98 00:21:55 +0100, Rainer Feuerstein wrote: > >I presume I'm not the first who asks this question, so feel free to answer via EMail if this >is a FAQ. > >I'd like to upgrade the HD (currently 2.1GB in the typical UltraBay HD shell) of my 760ED. > >Now, is it possible to >- open my existing case (how?), >- remove the old HD, >- insert the new HD (IBM DPLA25120) and >- just use it? > >Or is there something special about Ultra Bay HDs / HD shells? > I don't know about the UltraBay, but AFAIK, the HD inside is just a standard EIDE 2.5" drive. I'm not sure how to open it up either, but you just swap the drives and go. Some people have talked about newer drives needing a jumpered pin. I don't know about this, however. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (If you get an error, then the server is not online) Sent from my P75 Server The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 24 Processes with 86 Threads. This machine's uptime is 1d 0h 48m 39s 882ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 4 23:39:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA214602765; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:39:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21957; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:37:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:36:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21834; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:36:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21819; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:36:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from 146.new-york-28.ny.dial-access.att.net ([12.68.135.146]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA24975 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 04:35:36 +0000 Received: by 146.new-york-28.ny.dial-access.att.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BD47C6.14FD8E60@146.new-york-28.ny.dial-access.att.net>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:34:31 -0500 Message-Id: <01BD47C6.14FD8E60@146.new-york-28.ny.dial-access.att.net> From: Bruce Markowitz To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: HDD shell Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:34:18 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The newer IBM drives have a different pin arrangement. You will burn out your drive if you do the wrong thing (voice of experience!) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 5 01:49:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA230970570; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:49:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26850; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:48:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:47:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26733; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:47:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [209.30.0.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26721; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:47:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from flash.net (lash2-158.flash.net [209.30.74.158]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA19568 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:46:59 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <34FE4A66.9742C4FB@flash.net> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 22:47:02 -0800 From: Bob Garagliano Reply-To: paphbob@flash.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Subject: 360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I finally had the chance to try a good battery in my Thinkpad 360, and it still did not boot up. Anyone else have any suggestions? On the advice of an IBM support person months ago I replaced the DC/DC card without benefit. If push comes to shove I may be offering a 16 MB memory card and various parts soon... Bob From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 5 08:21:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA278094070; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:21:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15393; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:20:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:18:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15278; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:18:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mixer.visi.com (root@mixer.visi.com [209.98.98.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15260; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:18:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from zonker (13-77.dynamic.visi.com [209.98.13.77]) by mixer.visi.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with SMTP id HAA12019 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:17:57 -0600 (CST) Posted-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:17:57 -0600 (CST) X-Bmw: 1982 R100RS X-Cage: 1986 Honda CRX Si X-Homepage: HTTP://www.AmericanMold.com/ X-Laptop: Thinkpad 365X Message-Id: X-Sender: timf@mail.visi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 07:19:46 -0600 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "Timothy W. Foreman" Subject: FS: 33.6 PCMCIA Modem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just upgraded my modem to a 56K and have a spare 33.6 PCMCIA modem to get rid of. It's a Pretek and it works great! It's a painless plug & play under Win 95 and I usually got 33.6 for speed. I still have the box and all the manuals, etc... New it sells for $99. I'll let it go for $60 including shipping. Anyone interested? -- Timothy W. Foreman, Engineering Manager American Mold & Engineering Co. - Minneapolis, Minnesota Email: timf@AmericanMold.com | Voice (612) 571-8642 WWW: http://www.AmericanMold.com/ -- We Design & Build Custom Plastic Injection, Structural Foam, Gas Assist, Die Cast, Blow Mold and Compression Mold Tooling. -- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 5 11:13:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA001124428; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:13:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24933; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:09:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:08:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24789; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.teleport.com (mail1.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24732; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:07:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pdx09-pm2-22.teleport.com (pdx09-pm2-22.teleport.com [204.202.161.22]) by mail1.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA06167; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:07:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:07:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803051607.IAA06167@mail1.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bryan Daum Subject: 701 Batteries Cc: allied@teleport.com Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello all, I recall hearing that 701 batteries were less than $100 but I can't find out where. Anyone know the best place to try? [I sent this out a couple of days ago but it never hit the list and never came back -to me anyway] Thanks, Bryan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 5 22:10:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA109833805; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:10:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26651; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:04:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:01:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26491; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:01:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from carriage.chesco.com (carriage.chesco.com [209.195.192.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26479; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:01:37 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from carriage.chesco.com (mxphl4x22.chesco.com [209.195.201.201]) by carriage.chesco.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA06952 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:01:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803060301.WAA06952@carriage.chesco.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer for OS/2 (Green Edition Ver 3.0) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:00:05 EST Reply-To: Tim Howey Subject: ThinkPad 770 Screen Problems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ** Reply to note from owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:15:25 -0500 (EST) Robert Dewar said... >I think the screen going blank problem is most likely a problem with >the video driver itself. It happens to me every now and then whether >or not I have a PCMCIA card. I have been having plenty of video problems under OS/2 on my 770, and I have no PCMCIA support installed, since I'm using only the internal MWave modem right now. Not only does the screen go blank from time to time, but I have also had screen flashing & a 1 inch line of garbage appear at the bottom of the screen when opening and closing windows. Also, I have found at least one application that does not work correctly under WIN-OS2 on this machine, WordPerfect 7 for Win 3.1. WPWin7 works fine under Warp 4 on the 380, and also under WFWG on the 770, so it is not an application problem. By disabling hardware detection, and ensuring that the SB Pro was not listed in the Selective Install screen, I was able to reduce the frequency of the screen blanking a little. Also, keeping a full screen OS/2 session open in the background seems to help. Switching to the full screen session, and then back to the desktop, often clears any screen garbage. Anybody have any advice on how to contact IBM in an attempt to get this problem corrected? Video driver version 1.00 is not acceptable. Thanks! Tim Howey From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 5 22:26:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA112054775; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:26:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27671; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:21:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:20:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27536; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:20:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from wuff.mayn.de (root@wuff.mayn.de [194.95.209.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27523; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:20:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from datenbus.mayn.de(really [194.95.209.23]) by wuff.mayn.de via smail with smtp id for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:18:53 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jun-10) Received: from bedrock by datenbus.mayn.de with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yAnfe-000tjCA; Fri, 6 Mar 98 04:19 CET Received: by bedrock.mayn.de (UUPC/extended 1.12j); Fri, 06 Mar 1998 01:53:31 +0100 Message-Id: <34ff490b.bedrock@bedrock.mayn.de> From: "Rainer Feuerstein" To: "Bruce Markowitz" Cc: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Fri, 06 Mar 98 01:53:07 +0100 Reply-To: "Rainer Feuerstein" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 X-Mailer-Gate: PMMail<->UUPC/extended Gateway v1.01 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: HDD shell Sender: Rainer Feuerstein Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:34:18 -0500, Bruce Markowitz wrote: >The newer IBM drives have a different pin arrangement. That means only some (but not all) drives can be used for replacement? Is there a list of these drives? >You will burn out your drive if you do the wrong thing (voice of experience!) Sounds bad... --- kind regards, Rainer Feuerstein From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 5 22:27:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA112174819; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:26:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27878; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:22:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:21:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27605; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:21:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from wuff.mayn.de (root@wuff.mayn.de [194.95.209.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27545; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from datenbus.mayn.de(really [194.95.209.23]) by wuff.mayn.de via smail with smtp id for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:18:54 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jun-10) Received: from bedrock by datenbus.mayn.de with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yAnfh-000tj9A; Fri, 6 Mar 98 04:19 CET Received: by bedrock.mayn.de (UUPC/extended 1.12j); Fri, 06 Mar 1998 01:53:33 +0100 Message-Id: <34ff490d.bedrock@bedrock.mayn.de> From: "Rainer Feuerstein" To: "Sherri Saplin" Cc: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Fri, 06 Mar 98 01:50:07 +0100 Reply-To: "Rainer Feuerstein" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 X-Mailer-Gate: PMMail<->UUPC/extended Gateway v1.01 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Replacing HD with standard 2.5"? Sender: Rainer Feuerstein Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 05 Mar 1998 08:22:39 -0500, Sherri Saplin wrote: >I'm not sure about your new drive (I have IBM 82H8489) but my other drives >just pop back in the same way. Sure - they come with the shell. My question was whether I can insert another disk into this shell (which in turn is inserted into the UltraBay). --- kind regards, Rainer Feuerstein From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 5 22:33:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA112635188; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:33:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28331; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:25:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:23:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28049; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:23:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from wuff.mayn.de (root@wuff.mayn.de [194.95.209.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28019; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:23:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from datenbus.mayn.de(really [194.95.209.23]) by wuff.mayn.de via smail with smtp id for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:18:53 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jun-10) Received: from bedrock by datenbus.mayn.de with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yAnfe-000tjAA; Fri, 6 Mar 98 04:19 CET Received: by bedrock.mayn.de (UUPC/extended 1.12j); Fri, 06 Mar 1998 01:51:47 +0100 Message-Id: <34ff48a3.bedrock@bedrock.mayn.de> From: "Rainer Feuerstein" To: "Patrick Ash " Cc: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Fri, 06 Mar 98 01:51:22 +0100 Reply-To: "Rainer Feuerstein" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 X-Mailer-Gate: PMMail<->UUPC/extended Gateway v1.01 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Replacing HD with standard 2.5"? Sender: Rainer Feuerstein Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 05 Mar 98 07:09:10 -0400, Patrick Ash wrote: >I recently did this with my 755 CSE. What drive did you buy? >Just remove the >old drive, and substitute a newer one, providing the bios supports >the newer size drive. That's no problem, there's a BIOS update especially for that. --- kind regards, Rainer Feuerstein From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 6 13:44:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA237499874; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:44:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12696; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:30:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:25:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12336; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:25:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12300; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:25:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA22656; Fri, 6 Mar 98 13:24:10 EST Date: Fri, 6 Mar 98 13:24:10 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803061824.AA22656@nile.gnat.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, thowey@chesco.com Subject: Re: ThinkPad 770 Screen Problems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu <> Just to confirm that I also see the garbage at the bottom of the screen, and I have also seen the screen flashing. Nice to know that these are common problems, even nicer if they could be fixed. Has anyone called IBM support on this yet? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 6 15:54:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA258447680; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:54:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19156; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:11:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:09:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18931; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:09:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18847; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from inri.demon.co.uk ([158.152.21.88]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab2008216; 6 Mar 98 19:58 GMT Received: from aladdin [192.9.200.188] by inri.co.uk [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.6.rA.b6.32-R) for ; Fri, 06 Mar 98 19:27:16 +0000 Sender: pjb@post.mail.demon.net Message-Id: <35004CE3.1B23@inri.co.uk> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 19:22:11 +0000 From: Pete Backhouse Organization: International Research Institute (UK) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.10 9000/715) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad 700c u/g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mdaemon-Deliver-To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu i've just acquired a thinkpad 700c (9552). assuming that it has the 25Mhz planar, can i swap the cpu with the 486slc3 in my 9557? (i'm not sure yet, but i guess thet the 700c just has the standard 486slc installed). cheers, pete. -- ____________________________________________________ Peter Backhouse PBackhouse @inri.co.uk ____________________________________________________ Senior Systems Engineer Shiny Studios Engineer INRI UK Ltd (Lo-Fi Techno) ____________________________________________________ "windows isn't a virus... a virus does something..." From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 6 18:38:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA285987531; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:38:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00768; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:38:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:35:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00526; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:35:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00513; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:35:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from p06.hwts04.loop.net (p06.hwts04.loop.net [207.211.61.141]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA29066; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:33:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803062333.PAA29066@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Robert Dewar" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "thowey@chesco.com" Date: Fri, 06 Mar 98 15:33:38 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ThinkPad 770 Screen Problems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 6 Mar 98 13:24:10 EST, Robert Dewar wrote: ><have no PCMCIA support installed, since I'm using only the internal MWave >modem right now. Not only does the screen go blank from time to time, but I >have also had screen flashing & a 1 inch line of garbage appear at the bottom >of the screen when opening and closing windows. Also, I have found at least >one application that does not work correctly under WIN-OS2 on this >machine, WordPerfect 7 for Win 3.1. WPWin7 works fine under Warp 4 on >the 380, and also under WFWG on the 770, so it is not an application >problem. >>> > >Just to confirm that I also see the garbage at the bottom of the screen, >and I have also seen the screen flashing. > >Nice to know that these are common problems, even nicer if they could be >fixed. Has anyone called IBM support on this yet? > I'm surprised that IBM can't even make drivers to support their own operating systems. What video chipset is on the 770 anyways? And what PCMCIA chipset does it have? Have you tried the IBM's OS/2 device driver website? -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (the above url only works when the server is running) Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 22 Processes with 93 Threads. This machine's uptime is 2d 14h 40m 58s 750ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 6 19:28:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA293200501; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:28:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03032; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:28:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:26:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02861; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:26:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02847; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:25:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA14496; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:19:11 -0500 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d03lms02.boulder.ibm.com [9.99.80.12]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA52514; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:21:44 -0500 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D03AU006 id 5030200025805956; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:30:18 -0500 From: Drew Gazey To: Cc: , , Subject: Re: ThinkPad 770 Screen Problems Message-Id: <5030200025805956000002L062*@MHS> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:30:18 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >I'm surprised that IBM can't even make drivers to support their own op= erating systems. OS/2 device drivers for the Thinkpad 770 can be found at: http://www3.pc.ibm.com/techinfo/417e.html >What video chipset is on the 770 anyways? Trident CYBER9397 PCI >And what PCMCIA chipset does it have? TI PCI-1250 Cardbus controllers Good luck! Drew Gazey (My opinions are not neccessarily those of my employer) (information provided is not an official release by my employer) = From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 6 19:34:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA293610875; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:34:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03538; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:34:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:32:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03362; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:32:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03348; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:32:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from p06.hwts04.loop.net (p06.hwts04.loop.net [207.211.61.141]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA06420; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:29:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803070029.QAA06420@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Drew Gazey" Cc: "Dewar@Gnat.Com" , "Thinkpad@Cs.Utk.Edu" , "Thowey@Chesco.Com" Date: Fri, 06 Mar 98 16:29:45 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ThinkPad 770 Screen Problems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:30:18 -0500, Drew Gazey wrote: >>I'm surprised that IBM can't even make drivers to support their own operating >systems. > > OS/2 device drivers for the Thinkpad 770 can be found at: > > http://www3.pc.ibm.com/techinfo/417e.html > >>What video chipset is on the 770 anyways? > > Trident CYBER9397 PCI Hmm, it's too bad, because I hear that Trident has lousy OS/2 support. > >>And what PCMCIA chipset does it have? > > TI PCI-1250 Cardbus controllers > What about the device driver site though? Or is the ThinkPad site the one with the most current drivers? -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (the above url only works when the server is running) Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 22 Processes with 89 Threads. This machine's uptime is 2d 15h 37m 6s 601ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 7 07:42:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA143964526; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 07:42:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27001; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 07:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 7 Mar 1998 07:39:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26800; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 07:39:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26788; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 07:39:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA02112; Sat, 7 Mar 98 07:38:06 EST Date: Sat, 7 Mar 98 07:38:06 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803071238.AA02112@nile.gnat.com> To: dewar@gnat.com, pkhoury@loop.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, thowey@chesco.com Subject: Re: ThinkPad 770 Screen Problems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu <> If you are surprised, it probably means that you don't know how the driver business works. In the WIndows/95 world, Microsoft absolutely does NOT go building drivers for all the different video cards. They rely on manufacturers to do this. This is one of the dynamics that Micrsoft uses to dominate the field. These days, many video board manufacturers simply provide a Win95/NT driver, and don't release any technical details, making it completely impossible for other operating systems to support the hardware. This is getting to be a worse and worse problem. For OS/2, it is indeed the csae that since manufacturers consider the OS pretty much dead for client use (the big source of revenue for video cards -- servers don't need fancy video), they don't bother to make drivers, or don't bother to carefully update them, and it is a big problem! Yes, of course we have looked for the latest driver, there is no update available. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 7 22:24:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA192347453; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 22:24:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19097; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 22:23:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 7 Mar 1998 22:21:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18900; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 22:21:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from wuff.mayn.de (root@wuff.mayn.de [194.95.209.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18888; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 22:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from datenbus.mayn.de(really [194.95.209.23]) by wuff.mayn.de via smail with smtp id for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 04:20:56 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jun-10) Received: from bedrock by datenbus.mayn.de with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yBWdy-000tj5A; Sun, 8 Mar 98 04:20 CET Received: by bedrock.mayn.de (UUPC/extended 1.12j); Sun, 08 Mar 1998 02:43:08 +0100 Message-Id: <3501f7ac.bedrock@bedrock.mayn.de> From: "Rainer Feuerstein" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Sun, 08 Mar 98 02:43:05 +0100 Reply-To: "Rainer Feuerstein" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 X-Mailer-Gate: PMMail<->UUPC/extended Gateway v1.01 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: "Burn In" on TFT Display? Sender: Rainer Feuerstein Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu A few minutes ago I recognized a "shadow" in the upper right corner of my display (12.1" XGA TFT) that shows the Win NT controls (Min., Max. and Close Button). I only saw it because I accidentally moved a window with grey background out of the upper right corner of the desktop. Is this really a "Burn In" like old monitors had? What can I do against that? I use my TP the whole day long and I can't run a ScreenSaver while working. The Win Controls are at the same place all the time of course, since I usually work with maximized windows (even then MS Visual Studio is too small...) --- kind regards, Rainer Feuerstein From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 7 23:39:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA220791951; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:39:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21092; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:39:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:38:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20986; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:38:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20974; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:38:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from p07.hwts15.loop.net (p07.hwts15.loop.net [207.211.62.232]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA18567; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:36:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803080436.UAA18567@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Robert Dewar" , "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 07 Mar 98 20:36:53 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ThinkPad 770 Screen Problems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 7 Mar 98 07:38:06 EST, Robert Dewar wrote: ><stems. > >What video chipset is on the 770 anyways? >And what PCMCIA chipset does it have? > >Have you tried the IBM's OS/2 device driver website? >>> > >If you are surprised, it probably means that you don't know how the driver >business works. In the WIndows/95 world, Microsoft absolutely does NOT >go building drivers for all the different video cards. They rely on >manufacturers to do this. Okay, so I was semi-surprised. I mean, MS bribes a lot of companies to use their stuff, so I wasn't surprised, but with IBM, I am surprised because it's THEIR machine, and OS/2 is THEIR OS. > >This is one of the dynamics that Micrsoft uses to dominate the field. Among others which should only be discussed in private email, as some will get offended. These >days, many video board manufacturers simply provide a Win95/NT driver, and >don't release any technical details, making it completely impossible for >other operating systems to support the hardware. This is getting to be a >worse and worse problem. > >For OS/2, it is indeed the csae that since manufacturers consider the >OS pretty much dead for client use (the big source of revenue for video >cards -- servers don't need fancy video), they don't bother to make >drivers, or don't bother to carefully update them, and it is a big >problem! > >Yes, of course we have looked for the latest driver, there is no update >available. > It is a shame though, and that IBM doesn't correct the problem. It seems also that if the specific chipset manafacturer is too lazy/stupid to create a driver, then you'd think that the next party down the line (IBM, since they integrated it onto their MB) should make the driver. Of course, maybe this is a beta driver. I remember that I had to wait a release or two before the 65K color driver for OS/2 (CT65545) came out. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (If you get an error, then the server is not online) Sent from my P75 Server The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 25 Processes with 92 Threads. This machine's uptime is 2d 23h 13m 6s 625ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 7 23:41:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA221532089; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:41:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21476; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:41:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:40:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21352; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:40:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21302; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from p07.hwts15.loop.net (p07.hwts15.loop.net [207.211.62.232]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA18833; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:39:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803080439.UAA18833@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Rainer Feuerstein" Date: Sat, 07 Mar 98 20:39:48 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: "Burn In" on TFT Display? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 08 Mar 98 02:43:05 +0100, Rainer Feuerstein wrote: > >A few minutes ago I recognized a "shadow" in the upper right corner of my display (12.1" XGA >TFT) that shows the Win NT controls (Min., Max. and Close Button). I only saw it because I >accidentally moved a window with grey background out of the upper right corner of the >desktop. > >Is this really a "Burn In" like old monitors had? > >What can I do against that? I use my TP the whole day long and I can't run a ScreenSaver >while working. The Win Controls are at the same place all the time of course, since I usually >work with maximized windows (even then MS Visual Studio is too small...) > This may sound stupid, but from reading a product pamplete for some Japanese LCD manafacturer, it said that after a while, TFT LCDs may "burn in" like CRTs, though not as bad. A screen saver is not a bad idea, even one that just blanks out the LCD with nothing else. I don't think this would happen with DSTN, however, because it is displayed completely differently than TFT, which uses 3 transistors for each pixel (red, green, blue). -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (If you get an error, then the server is not online) Sent from my P75 Server The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 25 Processes with 91 Threads. This machine's uptime is 2d 23h 15m 54s 164ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 8 06:30:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA085946651; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 06:30:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09083; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 06:30:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 8 Mar 1998 06:28:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA08864; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 06:28:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA08852; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 06:28:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA00075; Sun, 8 Mar 98 06:27:09 EST Date: Sun, 8 Mar 98 06:27:09 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803081127.AA00075@nile.gnat.com> To: dewar@gnat.com, pkhoury@loop.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 770 Screen Problems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu <> It has nothing to do with lazy/stupid, but with simple market dynamics. OS/2 is no longer important in the general desktop market. Sure it is widely used, especially as a server, but when some manufacturer makes a new wizzbang graphics board, they know there will not be enough OS/2 users for it to be worth making an OS/2 driver. However, these remarks are relevant for general graphics boards, but NOT for the TP 770. Here it is indeed remkarable that IBM has not fixed the OS/2 driver, since they most definitely do advertise the 770 as supporting OS/2. IBM can choose the chip here, so it is up to them to choose one that one wa or another can properly support OS/2! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 8 09:52:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA164128775; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 09:52:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12859; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 09:52:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 8 Mar 1998 09:50:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12651; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 09:50:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from otis.our-town.com (otis.our-town.com [206.64.104.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12639; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 09:50:33 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from MYHOSTNAME (ttyC01.our-town.com [206.64.104.80]) by otis.our-town.com (8.8.8/SCO5) with SMTP id IAA16945 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 08:59:37 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199803081459.IAA16945@otis.our-town.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 98 08:47:36 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9803081127.AA00075@nile.gnat.com> Subject: Re: ThinkPad 770 Screen Problems X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.40 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I wonder if you have the latest updates for the 770? I just took a look at the Dev. Driver pak site and there are updates as of about 1997 December: http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/5E4B588B846AA82386256564005A577E.htm Is this what you are using? I have a TP 380D and check the "systems" section of the Dev. Driver site periodically for updates for that. There is support for IBM computers aplenty at the "systems" link. ====================== In <9803081127.AA00075@nile.gnat.com>, on 03/08/98 at 06:27 AM, dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) said: ><seems also that if the specific chipset manafacturer is too lazy/stupid >to create a driver, then you'd think that the next party down the line >(IBM, since they integrated it onto their MB) should make the driver. >>> >It has nothing to do with lazy/stupid, but with simple market dynamics. >OS/2 is no longer important in the general desktop market. Sure it is >widely used, especially as a server, but when some manufacturer makes a >new wizzbang graphics board, they know there will not be enough OS/2 >users for it to be worth making an OS/2 driver. >However, these remarks are relevant for general graphics boards, but NOT >for the TP 770. Here it is indeed remkarable that IBM has not fixed the >OS/2 driver, since they most definitely do advertise the 770 as >supporting OS/2. IBM can choose the chip here, so it is up to them to >choose one that one wa or another can properly support OS/2! -- ----------------------------------------------------------- wfj@our-town.com Father Winston F Jensen Running OS/2, the stable computer OS MR/2ICE Reader for OS/2 # 252 ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 8 14:20:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA264654852; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 14:20:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20033; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 14:20:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 8 Mar 1998 14:17:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19815; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 14:17:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19797; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 14:17:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA20283; Sun, 8 Mar 98 14:16:03 EST Date: Sun, 8 Mar 98 14:16:03 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803081916.AA20283@nile.gnat.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, wfj@our-town.com Subject: Re: ThinkPad 770 Screen Problems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks, I wlil try installaing the latest stuff from here. It is difficult to tell what is and what is not updated. I was going from the device driver matrix, which did not appear to show that it had been updated. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 8 18:23:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA072089414; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:23:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26628; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:23:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:22:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26489; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:22:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.teleport.com (mail1.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26452; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from ip-pdx07-09.teleport.com (ip-pdx09-05.teleport.com [206.163.124.7]) by mail1.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18949 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:44:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:44:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803041744.JAA18949@mail1.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bryan Daum Subject: 701 Batteries Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello all, I recall hearing that 701 batteries were less than $100 but I can't find out where. Anyone know the best place to try? Thanks, Bryan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 8 18:47:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA080940836; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:47:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27736; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:47:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:46:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27626; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:46:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27528; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from p08.hwts14.loop.net (p08.hwts14.loop.net [207.211.62.203]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA13749; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:37:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803082337.PAA13749@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bryan Daum" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 08 Mar 98 15:38:39 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701 Batteries Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:44:58 -0800 (PST), Bryan Daum wrote: >Hello all, > >I recall hearing that 701 batteries were less than $100 but I can't find out >where. >Anyone know the best place to try? > I know that Surplus Direct used to carry NiCAD batteries for the 701 for < $100, but I don't think they carry them anymore. Also, I myself have noticed that IBM's prices for a NiMH is cheaper than that of 800-BATTERIES. Is this because of a quality difference? -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 23 Processes with 105 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 2h 34m 38s 390ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 8 21:12:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA145409558; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:12:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01753; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:11:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01617; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:11:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from custsrv1.vitts.com (custsrv1.vitts.com [208.7.161.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01601; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:10:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from rocky-out.summa4.com ([208.7.172.8]) by custsrv1.vitts.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 120-40365U700L2S100) with SMTP id AAF634; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:10:47 -0500 Received: from simba (simba.summa4.com [10.254.1.7]) by Summa4.COM (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id SAA03712; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:44:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:44:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" X-Sender: kend@simba To: Bryan Daum Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 Batteries In-Reply-To: <199803041744.JAA18949@mail1.teleport.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, I picked one up at www.insight.com, though it was a third-party one. A quick glimpse shows that they've got some in stock, running for $100.99. Have a go... Ken -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ken D'Ambrosio kend@summa4.com NetAdmin, Summa Four, Inc. kena@well.com On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Bryan Daum wrote: > Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:44:58 -0800 (PST) > From: Bryan Daum > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: 701 Batteries > > Hello all, > > I recall hearing that 701 batteries were less than $100 but I can't find out > where. > Anyone know the best place to try? > > Thanks, > > Bryan > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 8 22:12:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA169143177; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:12:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03728; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:11:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03606; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:11:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.missouri.edu (mail.missouri.edu [128.206.2.169]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03590; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:11:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from Mizzou-AS2-05.missouri.edu (Mizzou-AS2-05.missouri.edu [128.206.205.53]) by mail.missouri.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA124640 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:11:16 -0600 From: c311353@showme.missouri.edu (John Hagar) To: ThinkPad List Subject: Need info on putting a 540meg HD (West. DIg.) in a 360C? Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 03:09:19 GMT Message-Id: <35035cc3.41531566@pop.missouri.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I could really use some help here. I have a new 540 western digital that I would like to put in the 360c carrier. What is in the carrier? What type drive (ide, eide, etc.)? Will a standard drive work? What about a 810meg fujitsu? Thanks for your help. *************** ** ** *** HAGAR SENDS *** **** **** *********************************** ***** ***** **** John Hagar **** ** ** ** ** *** PAGER (573) 499-7820 (Pager) *** ***** ***** *********************************** ** ** From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 8 22:17:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA171003472; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:17:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04245; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:17:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:17:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04172; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:17:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04100; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:15:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from p27.hwts06.loop.net (p27.hwts06.loop.net [207.211.61.222]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA07581; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 19:14:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803090314.TAA07581@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "John Hagar" Date: Sun, 08 Mar 98 19:15:45 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Need info on putting a 540meg HD (West. DIg.) in a 360C? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 09 Mar 1998 03:09:19 GMT, John Hagar wrote: >I could really use some help here. I have a new 540 western digital >that I would like to put in the 360c carrier. What is in the carrier? A standard 2.5" HD. >What type drive (ide, eide, etc.)? IDE. Will a standard drive work? AFAIK, yes. What >about a 810meg fujitsu? > Not right away, it is an EIDE drive. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 23 Processes with 102 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 6h 11m 40s 335ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 9 12:41:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA242915309; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:41:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10229; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:41:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:30:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08757; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:29:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (mail-oak-2.pilot.net [198.232.147.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08687; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:29:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (unknown-8-248.jud.state.ca.us [206.81.8.248] (may be forged)) by mail-oak-2.pilot.net with SMTP id JAA27540 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:29:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 0003AD5B; Mon, 9 Mar 98 09:32:29 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:33:03 -0800 Message-Id: <0003AD5B.1225@jud.ca.gov> From: Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) Subject: Dock IIs for sale To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I was going thru some of the sites that I haven't looked at in a while and found 2 Dock IIs for sale at $199 each at: http://www.2days.com/ibmpage.htm When I posted my Dock II for sale, there seemed to be enough general interest for me to pass this onto the group. Mitchell ps: am not affiliated with anyone. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 9 18:24:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA098795885; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:24:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04468; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:24:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:22:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04330; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:22:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns1.win.net (ns1.win.net [204.215.209.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04317; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:22:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from roosgroup.win.net (usr-tc-02-203.win.net [208.11.197.203]) by ns1.win.net (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA10776 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:22:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:22:16 -0500 Message-Id: <01BD4B88.49E93E60.droos@RoosGroup.com> From: David Roos To: "'thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU'" Subject: FS: TP760XD Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:21:56 -0500 Organization: The Roos Group X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Would anyone be interested in a 6 month old ThinkPad? I'm going to sell my ThinkPad 760XD Pentium 166 MMX 12.1" TFT 40MB RAM 3GB HD 8X Internal CD-ROM $2200 Please reply directly if you are interested. Dave Roos From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 10 13:56:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA297616159; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:55:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24843; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:54:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:43:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23953; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:43:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from vsntz20.vps.no ([193.213.205.165]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23920; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:43:06 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from nosln1.nos.no (unverified [193.215.141.70]) by vsntz20.vps.no (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:36:51 -0800 Received: by nosln1.nos.no(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id C12565C3.0066B600 ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:41:52 +0100 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: NOS To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:41:43 +0100 Subject: Wapr 4.0 (fixp5&6), Thinkpad 770 & 760, Workplaceshell Problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On two different thinkpads (TP770 and TP760) we experience WPS-problems (OS2 with fixpack5 and 6). Trying to open the properties menu the system seems to loop, after complaining about 'The directory or folder, " ", cannot be found. Be shure the path is correct'. Any ideas or tools to fix the WPS is appreciated. Gunnar Berthelsen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 10 18:18:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA121221935; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:18:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09576; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:18:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:15:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09320; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:15:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09253; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:13:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from p11.hwts12.loop.net (p11.hwts12.loop.net [207.211.62.146]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA02952; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:11:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803102311.PAA02952@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Gunnar_Berthelsen@nos.no" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 10 Mar 98 15:13:00 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Wapr 4.0 (fixp5&6), Thinkpad 770 & 760, Workplaceshell Problem Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:41:43 +0100, Gunnar_Berthelsen@nos.no wrote: >On two different thinkpads (TP770 and TP760) we experience WPS-problems >(OS2 >with fixpack5 and 6). Trying to open the properties menu the system seems >to loop, >after complaining about 'The directory or folder, " ", cannot be found. Be >shure the path is correct'. Any ideas or tools to fix the WPS is >appreciated. >Gunnar Berthelsen > > > I have noticed a font problem with FP6 for Warp 4 on my 701, yet everything is okay on my server with FP6, Warp 4. I have had no problems with FP5. Are you able to backout to a previous level? -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 23 Processes with 90 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 15h 28m 15s 718ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 11 09:33:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA199086789; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:33:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13678; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:32:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:28:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13378; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:28:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from flux.cosm.sc.edu (flux.cosm.sc.edu [129.252.40.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13347; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:28:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (puszkarz@localhost) by flux.cosm.sc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA00643 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:28:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:28:10 -0500 (EST) From: Waldemar Puszkarz Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: 163 Date and Time Error in TP701CS In-Reply-To: <199803102311.PAA02952@stevie.loop.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I am a proud owner of this beauty which for some time has been suffering >from the error I have also put in the subject of the message. Question: How do you fix it? Can you do this by yourself or does it require a service intervention? I know how to fix it temporarily, but it keeps switching to a wrong setting, 05/01/84. It simply cannot maintain the current time and date for longer. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Regards, Waldemar From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 11 09:55:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA208778126; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:55:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14988; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:55:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:54:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14889; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:54:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from lms03.us.ibm.com (lms03.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14868; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:54:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by lms03.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA23236; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:43:41 -0500 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d03lms02.boulder.ibm.com [9.99.80.12]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA29074; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:50:22 -0500 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D03AU006 id 5030200026128228; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:59:35 -0500 From: Drew Gazey To: Cc: Subject: Re: 163 Date and Time Error in TP701CS Message-Id: <5030200026128228000002L082*@MHS> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:59:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu 163 Date and time errors usually are an indication the CMOS battery is = dying. Unfortunately - I believe the battery is actually soldered into the = system board. Fortunately - the 701 has a 3 year warranty and you are probably sti= ll covered ... Give IBM a call or take it to a local IBM authorized servicer. Drew. = From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 11 11:56:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA264825414; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:56:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21519; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:50:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:48:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21272; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:48:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from enteract.com (root@enteract.com [206.54.252.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21259; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:48:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from usrx2-63.d.enteract.com (usrx2-63.d.enteract.com [207.229.172.63]) by enteract.com (8.8.8/8.7.6) with SMTP id KAA10939 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:48:42 -0600 (CST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP 560] Booting from pc card Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:48:23 GMT Organization: http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown Reply-To: epbrown@enteract.com Message-Id: <350bb346.9771442@mail.enteract.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, while setting up my new 560, I had the joy of attempting this and can offer a short report: It's weird! :-) Long version: The 560 won't boot from a pc card hard drive unless you go into EZ Setup and make if the first bootable drive it looks for. But it will then boot to the drive with no drivers or anything. I simply formatted my pc card as bootable under DOS mode and plugged it in. When the system starts, it makes the pc card the C:\ drive and the HDD inside is D:. I actually got Windows 95 installed on the drive as a bootable OS without a hitch! (125MB is cutting it close, though). Even cooler is the way that simply removing the card and rebooting returns things to normal. (I didn't test the effect of leaving a modem or something in it though.) This would be a great way of running another OS on the 560 without affecting your main drive, I'm thinking - I may try it out at some point. One strange thing when setting up Windows 95 - it only saw 512k of VRAM! I downloaded new video drivers, to no effect. Then I removed my display type from device manager and rebooted and it was detected properly. Hm. epbrown Stop by the Portable Computing Center for reviews, editorials, and the FAQ on laptop computers. http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 11 12:18:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA275016709; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:18:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23372; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:17:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:17:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23237; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:17:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23221; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA16711; Wed, 11 Mar 98 12:14:48 EST Date: Wed, 11 Mar 98 12:14:48 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803111714.AA16711@nile.gnat.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 770 and OS/2 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well (with some trepidation) I pressed the Netscape button that says do an automatic update of my system with the latest drivers). It did about 20 automatic reboots during the installation which was a bit alarming, and one of them hung (I just powered down and powered up and all was fine), and the installation seems to have worked. I can't really tell if it loaded new video drivers or not, but I can report that so far, I have not seen any anomolies. Presumably posting this message will cause them to immediately happen if they are still there, so we wlil see :-) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 11 14:16:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA029233766; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:16:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00466; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:15:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:06:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29597; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:06:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from webfep00.us.hsanet.net. (wwwfep00.us.hsanet.net [209.116.152.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29559; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:06:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from HSAnet.net by webfep00.us.hsanet.net. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA09491; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:05:32 GMT Message-Id: <3506E091.28DB9BDB@HSAnet.net> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:05:53 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: HSAnet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad mailing list Subject: Thinkpad 600? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Where was that Thinkpad 600 article? Anyone heard anything more about it? I think it's time for another new machine... -- Steve Hultquist, Chief Technology Officer HSAnet providing high-speed Internet access Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@HSAnet.net +1.303.581.0800 http://www.HSAnet.net/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 11 14:52:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA046705959; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:52:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02445; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:52:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:50:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02267; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:50:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02252; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:50:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts_jl (user-38lcgci.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.65.146]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA17570 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:50:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980311144614.009635e0@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> X-Sender: jloyles@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:46:14 -0500 To: thinkpad mailing list From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600? In-Reply-To: <3506E091.28DB9BDB@HSAnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 12:05 PM 3/11/98 -0700, Steve Hultquist wrote: >Where was that Thinkpad 600 article? > http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,19190,00.html From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 11 14:59:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA050196385; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:59:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02780; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:54:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:52:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02478; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:52:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov (wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.50.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02446; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from pioneer2.gsfc.nasa.gov (dhelfrich2.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.212.122]) by wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA10450; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:51:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980311145158.0069e5e4@pop700.gsfc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: helfrich@pop700.gsfc.nasa.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:52:02 -0500 To: Steve Hultquist From: Daniel Helfrich Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600? Cc: thinkpad mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It sounds like a pretty nifty box alright, See: http://news.com/News/Item/0,4,19190,00.html and: http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?980217.ehthinkpad.htm but what I want to know is how do they get the heat out without hurting battery performance! At 12:05 PM 3/11/98 -0700, you wrote: >Where was that Thinkpad 600 article? Anyone heard anything more about >it? I think it's time for another new machine... >-- >Steve Hultquist, Chief Technology Officer HSAnet >providing high-speed Internet access Boulder, Colorado >mailto:ssh@HSAnet.net +1.303.581.0800 http://www.HSAnet.net/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel D. Helfrich, Landsat 7 Mechanical Systems Engineer, Landsat Project NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Code 543, Greenbelt, Maryland, USA 20771 phone: (301)286-8481 fax: (301)286-1744 email: helfrich@gsfc.nasa.gov From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 11 15:03:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA051996635; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:03:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03270; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:58:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:57:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03121; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:57:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03103; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from loveland.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA09477; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:59:38 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:57:45 -0700 From: "Steve Hultquist" To: "thinkpad mailing list" Cc: "Daniel Helfrich" Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600? Message-Id: <562835518.889621065@loveland.wwsi.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.3.3b1, s/n U-300923] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --On Wednesday, March 11, 1998, 2:52 PM -0500 "Daniel Helfrich" wrote: > what I want to know is how do they get the heat out without hurting > battery performance! Using the Pentium II mobile, I think... -- Steve Hultquist, Chief Technology Officer HSAnet providing high-speed Internet access Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@HSAnet.net +1.303.581.0800 http://www.HSAnet.net/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 11 16:19:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA087801140; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:19:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08009; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:18:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:16:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07778; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:16:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07687; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:14:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from p01.hwts14.loop.net (p01.hwts14.loop.net [207.211.62.196]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA09694; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:11:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pkhoury@loop.com) Message-Id: <199803112111.NAA09694@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Drew Gazey" , "puszkarz@cosm.sc.edu" Cc: "Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 98 13:13:29 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 163 Date and Time Error in TP701CS Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:59:35 -0500, Drew Gazey wrote: >163 Date and time errors usually are an indication the CMOS battery is dying. > > Unfortunately - I believe the battery is actually soldered into the system >board. Nope, this one is user replaceable. > > Fortunately - the 701 has a 3 year warranty and you are probably still >covered ... > > Give IBM a call or take it to a local IBM authorized servicer. > Just order the battery from the Boulder parts center. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 21 Processes with 80 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 0h 13m 41s 585ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 11 17:13:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA113004419; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:13:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11037; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:12:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10916; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:12:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from enteract.com (root@enteract.com [206.54.252.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10892; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from usrx2-215.d.enteract.com (usrx2-215.d.enteract.com [207.229.172.215]) by enteract.com (8.8.8/8.7.6) with SMTP id QAA27878 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:12:19 -0600 (CST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: "thinkpad mailing list" Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600? Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:12:01 GMT Organization: http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown Reply-To: epbrown@enteract.com Message-Id: <35080be7.4889738@mail.enteract.com> References: <562835518.889621065@loveland.wwsi.com> In-Reply-To: <562835518.889621065@loveland.wwsi.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:57:45 -0700, you wrote: > wrote: > >> what I want to know is how do they get the heat out without hurting >> battery performance! > >Using the Pentium II mobile, I think... That's the problem. The PII mobile runs hotter than the current Tillamooks. It shouldn't be more trouble than the 560, though, since the case will be roomier... epbrown Stop by the Portable Computing Center for reviews, editorials, and the FAQ on laptop computers. http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 11 21:56:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA238541372; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:56:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22479; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:52:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22073; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:52:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from SNEEZY.USU.EDU (sneezy.usu.edu [129.123.1.87]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22048; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:52:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from usu.edu (slppj.dorms.usu.edu) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.1-9 #23984) with ESMTP id <01IUJVVPLYK09EE6M9@cc.usu.edu> for Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:52:04 MST Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:52:23 -0700 From: Greg Alvandian Subject: Re: 163 Date and Time Error in TP701CS To: Paul Khoury Cc: Drew Gazey , "puszkarz@cosm.sc.edu" , "Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Message-Id: <35074DE7.8FC06C77@usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199803112111.NAA09694@ritchie.loop.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I believe the RTC battery is on the bottom system board, the battery you're thinking of is the standby battery. The standby battery is what suppliees power to memory for a minute or so while you hot swap the main batteries. The RTC battery is what keeps date and time in the CMOS. While the standby battery is replacable, the RTC battery isn't, which is really stupid. Who knows, maybe it was done that way intentionally, IBM has a track record for being a pain in the butt about some things. -Greg A. Paul Khoury wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:59:35 -0500, Drew Gazey wrote: > > >163 Date and time errors usually are an indication the CMOS battery is dying. > > > > Unfortunately - I believe the battery is actually soldered into the system > >board. > > Nope, this one is user replaceable. > > > > Fortunately - the 701 has a 3 year warranty and you are probably still > >covered ... > > > > Give IBM a call or take it to a local IBM authorized servicer. > > > Just order the battery from the Boulder parts center. > > -- > Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org > Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS > The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 > Revision 9.029 > There are 21 Processes with 80 Threads. > This machine's uptime is 0d 0h 13m 41s 585ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 11 22:46:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA260434414; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:46:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22499; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:55:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:54:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22294; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:54:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (phr@netcom9.netcom.com [192.100.81.119]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22046; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:52:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id SAA14641 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:51:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:51:50 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199803120251.SAA14641@netcom9.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: w95 can't open com1??? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm trying to use an external modem (Ricochet SX, see www.ricochet.net for more info--yay) with my 755cx. I used EZ-setup to enable port 1 and used PS2.EXE to enable SERA and disable IR. So the connector on the back should really be connected to COM1 and I believe that's true because it used to work with another serial device in the past (I don't have a tester around now though). I believe I can connect to COM1 with Kermit and get some characters from the modem. However, when I select "Modems" from Control Panel and click "more info", Windoze pops a box that says "Can't open COM1". Trying to connect to COM1 from Hyper Terminal gives similar results. Any idea what I need to do to make Com1 visible to Windoze 95? (Kermit is a DOS program--things may be different). I hate Windoze... thanks for any help. Paul From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 11 23:13:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA272095985; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:13:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25560; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:11:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25414; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:11:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from germany.it.earthlink.net (germany-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.123]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25401; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:11:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from thorrune.earthlink.net (ip21.greenville.al.pub-ip.psi.net [38.11.251.21]) by germany.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA23133 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:11:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <004301bd4d6c$deb8c660$15fb0b26@thorrune.earthlink.net> From: "Thor Stromsnes" To: Subject: Introductions Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:10:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0040_01BD4D42.F43F2080" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01BD4D42.F43F2080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As a new member to this list, I would like to introduce my self. My name = is Thor Stromsnes, I am a Norwegian ThinkPad user who is for the time = being (this year) on assignment in the US. My portable darling is a TP = 770, 233 MHz 32MB RAM, 4.1 GB HD and equipped with 13.3 TFT display = (alas, I could not afford that beautiful 14.1...) My 'pad is equipped = with the DVD-ROM, and Enhanced Video Adapter option. These options have = caused me some slight problems, which I will address in a separate post = to the list.=20 I opted for the 770 as a quasi-desktop replacement, where I lug it = between home & the office, and with the occasional business trip. So, = performance was a larger requirement for me than portability. My = experiences with the machine, have so far (3 months) been *very* good, = it's almost bordering on a love-affair . I am very pleased that a = forum such as this is available for us ThinkPad users, and I look = forward to interact with the members on the list. If I can assist anyone = in any matter, I would be more than happy to do so. Best regards, Thor ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01BD4D42.F43F2080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As a new member to this list, I would like to = introduce my=20 self. My name is Thor Stromsnes, I am a Norwegian ThinkPad user who is = for the=20 time being (this year) on assignment in the US. My portable darling is a = TP 770,=20 233 MHz 32MB RAM, 4.1 GB HD and equipped with 13.3 TFT display (alas, I = could=20 not afford that beautiful 14.1...) My 'pad is = equipped with=20 the DVD-ROM, and Enhanced Video Adapter option. These options have = caused me=20 some slight problems, which I will address in a separate post to the = list.=20
 
I opted for the 770 as a quasi-desktop replacement, = where I=20 lug it between home & the office, and with the occasional business = trip. So,=20 performance was a larger requirement for me than portability. My = experiences=20 with the machine, have so far (3 months) been *very* good, it's almost = bordering=20 on a love-affair <g>. I am very pleased that a forum such as this = is=20 available for us ThinkPad users, and I look forward to interact with the = members=20 on the list. If I can assist anyone in any matter, I would be more than = happy to=20 do so.
 
Best regards,
 
Thor
------=_NextPart_000_0040_01BD4D42.F43F2080-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 11 23:16:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA273716169; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:16:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26017; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:15:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:15:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25853; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:15:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from germany.it.earthlink.net (germany-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.123]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25839; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:15:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from thorrune.earthlink.net (ip21.greenville.al.pub-ip.psi.net [38.11.251.21]) by germany.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA26689 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:15:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <004f01bd4d6d$6e4f32a0$15fb0b26@thorrune.earthlink.net> From: "Thor Stromsnes" To: Subject: TP770 DVD region/country code problems Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:15:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004C_01BD4D43.84004640" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01BD4D43.84004640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I purchased my 233/13.3 TFT 770 in Norway (where I am from), just prior = to an extended stay in the US (I will be working here for the next = year). I actually purchased my 770 on an export license (for tax = reasons) from IBM Norway, and I also included the DVD/Enhanced Video = Adapter option. I actually went for the DVD option because I am a big = movie enthusiast.=20 =20 My *big* problem however, is the fact that IBM Norway, in spite of = assurances to the contrary, bundled my DVD with the driver CD for region = 2 (Europe). This, of course, means that I am unable to watch any = US-coded DVD movies, which was my main purpose for buying the DVD in the = first place. After a lot of to-ing and fro-ing with IBM Norway, IBM = International and IBM USA, the verdict is unanimous: there is no way = that IBM will release the Region 1 disc to me. This is actually not = IBM's fault, they are tied down by copyright laws ( from the movie = studios , I presume). In short, the only way for me to get the Region 1 = disc, is to purchase another DVD- drive here in the US! As you can = imagine, I am none too thrilled by this idea.=20 So what I have been leading up to here, is a question as to whether = anyone on the list could help me obtain a copy of the disc, or perhaps = just a few of the critical files? I will of course cover all costs for = copying/shipping etc. I am just pretty much stumped as to any other = options, these last 3 months I have tried pretty much all "official" = options. I would be extremely grateful if any of you guys could help me = out here!=20 =20 Very best regards, =20 Thor Stromsnes ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01BD4D43.84004640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I purchased my 233/13.3 TFT 770 in Norway (where I = am from),=20 just prior to an extended stay in the US (I will be working here for the = next=20 year). I actually purchased my 770 on an export license (for tax = reasons) from=20 IBM Norway, and I also included the DVD/Enhanced Video Adapter option. I = actually went for the DVD option because I am a big movie enthusiast. =
 
My *big* problem however, = is the fact=20 that IBM Norway, in spite of assurances to the contrary, bundled my DVD = with the=20 driver CD for region 2 (Europe). This, of course, means that I am unable = to=20 watch any US-coded DVD movies, which was my main purpose for buying the = DVD in=20 the first place. After a lot of to-ing and fro-ing with IBM Norway, IBM=20 International and IBM USA, the verdict is unanimous: there is no way = that IBM=20 will release the Region 1 disc to me. This is actually not IBM's fault, = they are=20 tied down by copyright laws ( from the movie studios , I presume). In = short, the=20 only way for me to get the Region 1 disc, is to purchase another DVD- = drive here=20 in the US! As you can imagine, I am none too thrilled by this idea.=20
 
So what I have been leading up to = here, is a=20 question as to whether anyone on the list could help me obtain a copy of = the=20 disc, or perhaps just a few of the critical files? I will of course = cover all=20 costs for copying/shipping etc. I am just pretty much stumped as to any = other=20 options, these last 3 months I have tried pretty much all = "official"=20 options. I would be extremely = grateful if any=20 of you guys could help me out here! 
 
Very best regards,
 
Thor=20 Stromsnes
------=_NextPart_000_004C_01BD4D43.84004640-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 11 23:36:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA282977371; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:36:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27125; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:35:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:35:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27041; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:35:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27025; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:35:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA12806; Wed, 11 Mar 98 23:33:27 EST Date: Wed, 11 Mar 98 23:33:27 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803120433.AA12806@nile.gnat.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, thorrune@earthlink.net Subject: Re: TP770 DVD region/country code problems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu that's odd, my DVD came with NO disk, should it have? I have not even thought about watching movies yet ... -- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 11 23:18 EST 1998 From: "Thor Stromsnes" To: Subject: TP770 DVD region/country code problems Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:15:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01BD4D43.84004640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I purchased my 233/13.3 TFT 770 in Norway (where I am from), just prior = to an extended stay in the US (I will be working here for the next = year). I actually purchased my 770 on an export license (for tax = reasons) from IBM Norway, and I also included the DVD/Enhanced Video = Adapter option. I actually went for the DVD option because I am a big = movie enthusiast.=20 =20 My *big* problem however, is the fact that IBM Norway, in spite of = assurances to the contrary, bundled my DVD with the driver CD for region = 2 (Europe). This, of course, means that I am unable to watch any = US-coded DVD movies, which was my main purpose for buying the DVD in the = first place. After a lot of to-ing and fro-ing with IBM Norway, IBM = International and IBM USA, the verdict is unanimous: there is no way = that IBM will release the Region 1 disc to me. This is actually not = IBM's fault, they are tied down by copyright laws ( from the movie = studios , I presume). In short, the only way for me to get the Region 1 = disc, is to purchase another DVD- drive here in the US! As you can = imagine, I am none too thrilled by this idea.=20 So what I have been leading up to here, is a question as to whether = anyone on the list could help me obtain a copy of the disc, or perhaps = just a few of the critical files? I will of course cover all costs for = copying/shipping etc. I am just pretty much stumped as to any other = options, these last 3 months I have tried pretty much all "official" = options. I would be extremely grateful if any of you guys could help me = out here!=20 =20 Very best regards, =20 Thor Stromsnes ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01BD4D43.84004640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I purchased my 233/13.3 TFT 770 in Norway (where I = am from),=20 just prior to an extended stay in the US (I will be working here for the = next=20 year). I actually purchased my 770 on an export license (for tax = reasons) from=20 IBM Norway, and I also included the DVD/Enhanced Video Adapter option. I = actually went for the DVD option because I am a big movie enthusiast. =
 
My *big* problem however, = is the fact=20 that IBM Norway, in spite of assurances to the contrary, bundled my DVD = with the=20 driver CD for region 2 (Europe). This, of course, means that I am unable = to=20 watch any US-coded DVD movies, which was my main purpose for buying the = DVD in=20 the first place. After a lot of to-ing and fro-ing with IBM Norway, IBM=20 International and IBM USA, the verdict is unanimous: there is no way = that IBM=20 will release the Region 1 disc to me. This is actually not IBM's fault, = they are=20 tied down by copyright laws ( from the movie studios , I presume). In = short, the=20 only way for me to get the Region 1 disc, is to purchase another DVD- = drive here=20 in the US! As you can imagine, I am none too thrilled by this idea.=20
 
So what I have been leading up to = here, is a=20 question as to whether anyone on the list could help me obtain a copy of = the=20 disc, or perhaps just a few of the critical files? I will of course = cover all=20 costs for copying/shipping etc. I am just pretty much stumped as to any = other=20 options, these last 3 months I have tried pretty much all = "official"=20 options. I would be extremely = grateful if any=20 of you guys could help me out here! 
 
Very best regards,
 
Thor=20 Stromsnes
------=_NextPart_000_004C_01BD4D43.84004640-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 11 23:49:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA288928144; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:49:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28208; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:48:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:48:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28087; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:48:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28073; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:47:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from p03.hwts15.loop.net (p03.hwts15.loop.net [207.211.62.228]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA00714; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:45:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pkhoury@loop.com) Message-Id: <199803120445.UAA00714@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Paul Rubin" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 98 20:47:36 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: w95 can't open com1??? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:51:50 -0800 (PST), Paul Rubin wrote: >I'm trying to use an external modem (Ricochet SX, see www.ricochet.net >for more info--yay) with my 755cx. I used EZ-setup to enable port 1 >and used PS2.EXE to enable SERA and disable IR. So the connector on >the back should really be connected to COM1 and I believe that's true >because it used to work with another serial device in the past (I don't >have a tester around now though). I believe I can connect to COM1 with >Kermit and get some characters from the modem. However, when I select >"Modems" from Control Panel and click "more info", Windoze pops a box >that says "Can't open COM1". Trying to connect to COM1 from Hyper Terminal >gives similar results. Any idea what I need to do to make Com1 visible >to Windoze 95? (Kermit is a DOS program--things may be different). >I hate Windoze... thanks for any help. > Maybe you have to specifiy a line in the WIN.INI file? I know this is simliar for OS/2's config.sys, and Linux's rc.d. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 20 Processes with 77 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 0h 8m 44s 234ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 12 00:02:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA295178935; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:02:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29086; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:56:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:55:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28959; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:55:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28683; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:52:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from p03.hwts15.loop.net (p03.hwts15.loop.net [207.211.62.228]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA00801; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:47:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pkhoury@loop.com) Message-Id: <199803120447.UAA00801@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Greg Alvandian" Cc: "Drew Gazey" , "puszkarz@cosm.sc.edu" , "Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 98 20:49:31 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 163 Date and Time Error in TP701CS Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:52:23 -0700, Greg Alvandian wrote: >I believe the RTC battery is on the bottom system board, the battery >you're thinking of is the standby battery. The standby battery is what >suppliees power to memory for a minute or so while you hot swap the main >batteries. The RTC battery is what keeps date and time in the CMOS. >While the standby battery is replacable, the RTC battery isn't, which is >really stupid. Who knows, maybe it was done that way intentionally, IBM >has a track record for being a pain in the butt about some things. Opps, my mistake. DUH. About IBM getting users POed, now they will NOT replace my Multiport II without a credit card number, and they still don't know the correct date for my warranty termination (March 6, 1999). I mean, do they expect everyone, especially a high school student to have a credit card? That just makes me REALLY UPSET! -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 20 Processes with 79 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 0h 10m 39s 218ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 12 03:32:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA085981528; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:32:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06831; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:31:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:29:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06498; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:29:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from vsntz20.vps.no ([193.213.205.165]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06486; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:29:04 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from nosln1.nos.no (unverified [193.215.141.70]) by vsntz20.vps.no (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:22:51 -0800 Received: by nosln1.nos.no(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id C12565C5.002E7E20 ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:27:49 +0100 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: NOS To: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu Cc: Tim_Saetervik@nos.no Message-Id: Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:27:44 +0100 Subject: TP 760ED, Warp 4.0, DB/2 2.1, Performance Problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu We have a TP760, 64MB memory, 1,2GB disk. We're running WARP 4.0 and DB2 2.1, EtherJet card is installed and running. We experiencing strange performance problems. The Disk lamp is on for long time intervals without any disk activity (also when not using DB2). An other equal TP does the same job in 1/10'th of the time. Anyone with any idea of what the cause could be. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 12 06:35:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA155232546; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:35:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA17748; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:35:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:33:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA17518; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:33:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcom11.netcom.com (genepool@netcom11.netcom.com [192.100.81.121]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA17506; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:32:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from genepool@localhost) by netcom11.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id DAA23383; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:32:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:32:46 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Michael Subject: Re: w95 can't open com1??? To: Paul Khoury Cc: ThinkPad List , Paul Rubin In-Reply-To: <199803120445.UAA00714@ritchie.loop.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > On Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:51:50 -0800 (PST), Paul Rubin wrote: > > >the back should really be connected to COM1 and I believe that's true > >because it used to work with another serial device in the past (I don't > >have a tester around now though). I believe I can connect to COM1 with > >Kermit and get some characters from the modem. However, when I select Programs|Settings|Control Panel|System|Device Manager Check the com settings there. You might try removing all com devices then readding using Add New Hardware and reboot. Cheers, Jim From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 12 08:14:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA192548468; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:14:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20641; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:14:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:11:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20353; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:11:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from vsntz20.vps.no ([193.213.205.165]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20322; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:11:25 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from nosln1.nos.no (unverified [193.215.141.70]) by vsntz20.vps.no (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with SMTP id ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:05:10 -0800 Received: by nosln1.nos.no(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id C12565C5.0048599A ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:10:15 +0100 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: NOS To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:10:09 +0100 Subject: Thanks to the Warped Thinkpad Page Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Re. TP760ED, Performance Problems. Having read the Installation tips the problems were solved adding paramteres to the IBM1S506.ADD, (all parameters from the installation expample). The Database reorg process took 6 minutes instead of 30. Once again, thanks to those who keep these pages up and running. Great Job! Best regards Gunnar Berthelsen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 12 13:11:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA020356300; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:11:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07593; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:06:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:03:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07369; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:03:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07311; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:01:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA29725; Thu, 12 Mar 98 13:00:06 EST Date: Thu, 12 Mar 98 13:00:06 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803121800.AA29725@nile.gnat.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP770 and new video driver for OS/2 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have had one incident of the screen flashing phenomenon since installing the latest drivers, and non of the other two (screen moving up half an inch, bottom filled with garbage, and the dreaded and fatal screen going blank) So that is encouraging so far! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 12 13:21:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA024886900; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:21:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08620; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:20:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:20:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08512; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:20:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08498; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from gummi.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA27145; Thu, 12 Mar 98 13:20:05 EST Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <35082754.A28D13B@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:20:04 -0500 From: Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Dewar Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, thorrune@earthlink.net Subject: Re: TP770 DVD region/country code problems References: <9803120433.AA12806@nile.gnat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My DVD came with several floppies, one of them labelled "DVD Movie Region 1 for Windows 95". I think I read somewhere that you can only install a region code once, and that subsequent installs will not work. I have no idea if this is true. Presumably this is to keep someone from being able to access movies from different regions with the same hardware. Don't you just love the restrictions that are put on digital audio/video... --Lee Hetherington From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 12 14:52:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA066152373; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:52:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14109; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:51:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:48:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13871; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:48:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13859; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:48:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibm.net (slip-32-100-104-172.ct.us.ibm.net [32.100.104.172]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA193086 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:48:03 GMT Message-Id: <35083B8D.D7BC6395@ibm.net> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:46:21 -0500 From: Wyn Achenbaum Reply-To: wyn@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Zip Drive Peculiarity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have two parallel port zip drives, one attached to my desktop, one that floats between my TP560 and my husband's. I use zip for backup and sneakernet on both my machines. When I went to load some data from the zip to my TP560, it said the disk was unformatted. I walked it back to the zipdrive on the desktop, and, indeed the data was there. I tested a few more disks; same thing. Then I switched the zip drives, and still the TP560 did not see a formatted disk with data on it. What am I missing here? Wyn Achenbaum From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 12 15:01:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA069852901; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:01:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15439; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:00:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:59:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15322; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:59:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from box.hacom.nl (root@box.hacom.nl [193.67.233.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15300; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:59:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from dyn105-amf.hacom.nl (dyn105-amf.hacom.nl [193.67.233.105]) by box.hacom.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA12047; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:02:43 +0100 Message-Id: <199803122002.VAA12047@box.hacom.nl> From: "Arjen Meijer" To: "Gunnar_Berthelsen@nos.no" , "ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu" Cc: "Tim_Saetervik@nos.no" Date: Thu, 12 Mar 98 20:56:12 -0200 Reply-To: "Arjen Meijer" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP 760ED, Warp 4.0, DB/2 2.1, Performance Problem Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:27:44 +0100, Gunnar_Berthelsen@nos.no wrote: >We have a TP760, 64MB memory, 1,2GB disk. We're running WARP 4.0 and DB2 >2.1, EtherJet card is installed and running. We experiencing strange >performance problems. The Disk lamp is on for long time intervals without >any disk activity (also when not using DB2). An other equal TP does the >same job in 1/10'th of the time. Anyone with any idea of what the cause >could be. > Two posible problems: 1. disable the busmaster: recommended by IBM BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD /A:0 /FORCE:1 /U:0 /F:1.44MB BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD /A:0 /!BM /U:0 /ATAPI /FORCE 2. Wrong sequence in mwave in config.sys. This can lead to very very long wait times for the disks. Default it is installed WRONG! Arjen P.S. Uit is dutch for from. Uit: ThinkPad General - Installation instructions for PC Card Director This document is for the TP 365X/XD, 560/E, 760E/ED/EL/ELD/X/XD, and 765 series. - Place $ICPMOS2.SYS above Mwave device drivers in CONFIG.SYS if Mwave device drivers are installed and $ICPMOS2.SYS is located below them. Uit: ThinkPad 760 - Installing PCMCIA Token Ring under OS/2 The following is a basic guideline from the ThinkPad perspective of installation and available resources. 1) Follow instructions for Installing Warp DO NOT INSTALL NETWORK SUPPORT DO NOT INSTALL OS/2'S PCMCIA SUPPORT 2) Install PC Card Director for OS/2. DO NOT CONFIGURE THE TOKEN RING CARD IN AUTOCONFIGURATOR CD - Rom and other drive letter considerations: PC Card director installation by default adds drive letters for Flash and SRAM storage device support with no GUI means of disabling. This may change your CD ROM drive letter. On a Warp Connect preloaded image the necessary drives are already REMmed. At minimum - REM out BASEDEV=PCM2ATA.ADD /S:2 /]DM /NOBEEP :Storage Driver for OS/2 (ATA) Can also REM out BASEDEV=OS2PCARD.DMD : Storage Driver for OS/2 DEVICE=x:\THINKPAD\PCMSSDIF.SYS :Storage Driver for OS/2 (Interface) DEVICE=x:\THINKPAD\PCM2SRAM.SYS :Storage Driver for OS/2 (SRAM) DEVICE=x:\THINKPAD\FLSH2MTD.SYS :Storage Driver for OS/2 (FLASH MTD) DEVICE=x:\THINKPAD\PCM2FLSH.SYS :Storage Driver for OS/2 (FLASH) 6) For Machines with MWAVE - Adjust COM.SYS At the end of the line \OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS add (2,2F8,3) The (2,2f8,3) is necessary to allow OS/2's COM driver to pick up the DSP modem, which is normally at COM2. If the DSP modem is set to COM1, then use (1,3F8,4). - Move the following line to the end of Config.sys or MWAVE may fail. RUN C:\MWAVEOS2\BIN\MWSTART.EXE 7. Install Network Support Install software you are using for network support, The following is for installing Warp Connect but may be used for any platform. - Go to OS/2 System - OS/2 Warp Connect Install/Remove - Warp Connect Selective Install for Networking - Choose Advanced Installation - Pick Protocol - Configure the IBM PCMCIA Token Ring Adapter System Interrupt Level = 9 PCMCIA mode = YES * Shared RAM address = D800 Default Ring Speed = 16 (if applicable) Shared RAM Size = 16 * Memory Mapped IO/ROM address = D000 * These memory addresses SHOULD be used on PCI based machines. Other addresses can be used but these have proven best Uit: ThinkPad General - Mwave 2.24 installation support for OS/2 Warp For successful coexistence with IBM TCP/IP, IBM LAN Requestor and/or Netware Requestor for OS/2; all of the MMOS2 and Mwave drivers, with the exception of the MWAVEVDD.SYS driver, should come after the TCP/IP lines in the CONFIG.SYS file. For CD audio on the 755CD/CDV and 760CD/ED to function, the Auxiliary Control must be running from the Mwave for OS/2 folder. This is not necessary if the CD is set for Digital Transfer. Reinstallation of Mwave: If the Mwave installation becomes damaged and fails to function properly, it will be necessary to fully remove all Mwave AND Multimedia support prior to reinstallation. This is necessary to insure a clean reinstall of all features. For OS/2 Warp: Edit the CONFIG.SYS and remove all references to \MWAVEOS2. Do a Selective Uninstall of Multimedia support and delete the Multimedia and Mwave folders from the Desktop. Shutdown and reboot the system. Use the Drives object to remove the \MMOS2 and \MWAVEOS2 subdirectories. Proceed with the installation as outlined above. WINOS2 Mwave support can be reinstalled independently of OS/2 support, i.e. if OS/2 Mwave support is working correctly, then it is not necessary to remove/reinstall OS/2 support in order to reinstall WINOS2 support. In general, WINOS2 Mwave support does not need to be removed before it is reinstalled. Wie als Meijer geboren is, wordt nooit een kwartje. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 12 18:00:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA154963646; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:00:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24831; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:54:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:52:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24670; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:52:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net (root@mail.clark.net [168.143.0.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24658; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:52:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from shin-hw.clark.net (shin-hw.clark.net [168.143.13.19]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA19256 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by shin-hw.clark.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BD4DDF.A83DF380@shin-hw.clark.net>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:52:43 -0500 Message-Id: <01BD4DDF.A83DF380@shin-hw.clark.net> From: Henry Shin To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: FS: external floppy drive Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:52:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I am selling an external floppy drive (48G9896) for Thinkpads. I am not = sure which model it was designed for. But, it works with my TP760 and = all the TP docking stations. So, I guess it is the "standard" TP = external floppy drive. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D8035510 Does anyone know if this will fit 701 series? Best regards, Henry From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 12 19:31:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA195529086; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:31:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28444; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:31:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:29:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28298; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:29:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from CS.Princeton.EDU (root@CS.Princeton.EDU [128.112.136.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28286; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:29:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from toreltp.cs.princeton.edu (toreltp.CS.Princeton.EDU [128.112.92.90]) by CS.Princeton.EDU (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA21791; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:27:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803130027.TAA21791@CS.Princeton.EDU> From: "Tore Larsen" To: , "Robert Dewar" Cc: , Subject: RE: TP770 DVD region/country code problems Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:27:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: <35082754.A28D13B@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, -----Original Message----- From: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu [mailto:ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu] Sent: Thursday, 12 March, 1998 13:20 To: Robert Dewar Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; thorrune@earthlink.net Subject: Re: TP770 DVD region/country code problems I think I read somewhere that you can only install a region code once, and that subsequent installs will not work. I have no idea if this is true. I don't think this is accurate. You need the alternative disk though. --Lee Hetherington __ Tore From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 12 19:43:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA201069782; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:43:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29247; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:42:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:42:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29118; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:42:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29087; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from 20715998137.bellatlantic.net (20715998137.bellatlantic.net [207.159.98.137]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id TAA18917 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:37:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803130037.TAA18917@iconmail.bellatlantic.net> From: "Patrick Ash " To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 12 Mar 98 19:34:55 -0400 Reply-To: "Patrick Ash " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: PC Cards and irq Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I recently added an ethernet card to my TP755 CSE. The card is a Xircom ce3-100btx, and using the provided config utility, the card uses irq 5. This is, according to the Xircom docs, hardware dependant. This, however, conflicts with the Sound Blaster support. My main OS is OS/2, and the only irq's available for SB are 5 and 7. If I use 7, I then loose printer support. The TP documentation does not say anything about reassigning the irq for the PC card, but I did see a reference to irq 15 in the readme for the pcmcia drivers. Is there any way to use an irq other than 5 for the ethernet card? Thanks for any help. Pat From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 12 20:19:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA222541992; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:19:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01303; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:19:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:18:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01221; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:18:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01206; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:18:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA02650; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:13:03 -1000 Message-Id: <002201bd4e1d$7f2214c0$0f02000a@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Patrick Ash " , Subject: Re: PC Cards and irq Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:15:17 -1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >My main OS is OS/2, and the only irq's available for SB are 5 and 7. >If I use 7, I then loose printer support. I don't know how OS/2 works, but you *should* be able to use both the printer and SB on IRQ 7 (though sound will be bad while printing). In W95 the only way to do this is to dumb down the printer and turn off interrupt-driven printing altogether, but in practice this makes little difference (since the port isn't the printing bottleneck, at least for non-GDI printers). - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 00:10:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA024365826; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:10:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08562; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:10:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:08:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08456; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:08:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08443; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:08:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from p09.hwts03.loop.net (p09.hwts03.loop.net [207.211.61.114]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA03957; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:08:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803130508.VAA03957@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Patrick Ash " Date: Thu, 12 Mar 98 21:07:56 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: PC Cards and irq Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 12 Mar 98 19:34:55 -0400, Patrick Ash wrote: >I recently added an ethernet card to my TP755 CSE. The card is a >Xircom ce3-100btx, and using the provided config utility, the card >uses irq 5. This is, according to the Xircom docs, hardware >dependant. This, however, conflicts with the Sound Blaster support. >My main OS is OS/2, and the only irq's available for SB are 5 and 7. >If I use 7, I then loose printer support. > only if your BASEDEV=PRINT01.SYS /IRQ without the /IRQ line, it polls the printer port. >The TP documentation does not say anything about reassigning the irq >for the PC card, but I did see a reference to irq 15 in the readme >for the pcmcia drivers. Is there any way to use an irq other than 5 >for the ethernet card? Thanks for any help. > Some cards let you do that with the enablers. For example, I made COM3 (the modem I'm using now - Home & Away) IRQ 11 using a tagline. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 26 Processes with 104 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 13h 39m 21s 789ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 02:28:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA084444119; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:28:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12531; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:28:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:27:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12407; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:27:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from wuff.mayn.de (root@wuff.mayn.de [194.95.209.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12394; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:27:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from datenbus.mayn.de(really [194.95.209.23]) by wuff.mayn.de via smail with smtp id for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:22:19 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jun-10) Received: from bedrock by datenbus.mayn.de with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yDOrG-000tj5A; Fri, 13 Mar 98 08:26 CET Received: by bedrock.mayn.de (UUPC/extended 1.12j); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:21:37 +0100 Message-Id: <3508de81.bedrock@bedrock.mayn.de> From: "Rainer Feuerstein" To: "Patrick Ash " Cc: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 08:17:43 +0100 Reply-To: "Rainer Feuerstein" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 X-Mailer-Gate: PMMail<->UUPC/extended Gateway v1.01 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: PC Cards and irq Sender: Rainer Feuerstein Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 12 Mar 98 19:34:55 -0400, Patrick Ash wrote: >The card is a >Xircom ce3-100btx, and using the provided config utility, the card >uses irq 5. You can change this setting in \IBMCOM\protocol.ini: [CE3OS2_nif] DriverName = XIRCOM$ INT = 5 IOADDRESS = 0x300 MEM = 0xD200 SOCKET = 2 --- kind regards, Rainer Feuerstein From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 06:37:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA179989052; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:37:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24404; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:37:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:36:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24286; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:36:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from enteract.com (root@enteract.com [206.54.252.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24274; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:35:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from usrx2-42.d.enteract.com (usrx2-42.d.enteract.com [207.229.172.42]) by enteract.com (8.8.8/8.7.6) with SMTP id FAA25626 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:35:53 -0600 (CST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP 560] Carrying Case Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:35:37 GMT Organization: http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown Reply-To: epbrown@enteract.com Message-Id: <350a18e8.1394150@mail.enteract.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu As my Targus Backpack case is finally giving out, I'm shopping for a new case for my 560. I'm thinking of buying a quality normal backpack paired with the Portfolio case for the 560 described at http://www.microwarehouse.com/oasis/binpublic/catproduct.dll?product_id=16362. Has anyone used this case before? I'm wondering what sort of pockets are on the back of the case pictured. Does it have one large flat pocket, or is this the case with two pockets pictured in the options catalog I got with the 560 (it looks smaller)? epbrown Stop by the Portable Computing Center for reviews, editorials, and the FAQ on laptop computers. http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 08:42:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA227936554; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:42:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28756; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:42:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:41:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28669; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:41:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28657; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:41:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com (ottmsooc01.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.24]) by docws001.shl.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA104660 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:38:28 -0600 Received: by ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4E5B.FE3A3560@ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:42:45 -0500 Message-Id: From: TROTTIER Tom To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "epbrown@enteract.com" Subject: RE: [TP 560] Carrying Case Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:36:43 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 16 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Doesn't the case come with a *lifetime* warranty? and aren't you still alive? Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect Ottawa Global Delivery Centre, SHL Systemhouse an MCI Company (+1 613 236-6604x5539 fax:232-5182( : ttrottier@shl.com http://www.shl.com : *50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada* ~Questions answered, answers questioned~ ... > As my Targus Backpack case is finally giving out, I'm shopping for >a new case for my 560. I'm thinking of buying a quality normal ... > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 08:47:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA229596838; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:47:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26233; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:50:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:49:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26102; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:49:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26086; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:49:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA15363; Fri, 13 Mar 98 07:47:25 EST Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 07:47:25 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803131247.AA15363@nile.gnat.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 770 + OS2, bad news ... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu THe latest drivers still have the dreaded screen blanking problem, it has happened a couple of times since I installed the latest drivers. It's really annoying that IBM cannot manage to get OS/2 drivers to work for the thinkpads, GRRRR! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 08:54:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA232547267; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:54:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00755; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:54:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:51:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29786; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:51:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29663; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:50:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA09546; Fri, 13 Mar 98 08:49:07 EST Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 08:49:07 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803131349.AA09546@nile.gnat.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: life time warranty Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu <> Sometimes lifetime guarantees on objects turn out to be for the lifetime of the object :-) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 10:05:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA261671523; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:05:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06477; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:03:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06248; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:03:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from box.hacom.nl (root@box.hacom.nl [193.67.233.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06230; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from dyn091-amf.hacom.nl (dyn091-amf.hacom.nl [193.67.233.91]) by box.hacom.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA03712 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:06:51 +0100 Message-Id: <199803131506.QAA03712@box.hacom.nl> From: "Arjen Meijer" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 16:02:46 -0200 Reply-To: "Arjen Meijer" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Gradd video drivers planned for thinkpads? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The thinkpads do not have optimal video drivers for os/2. Does anybody know if the GRADD drivers are planned for thinkpad models? Arjen owner of a 760ED Wie als Meijer geboren is, wordt nooit een kwartje. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 12:43:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA035771014; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:43:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16596; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:42:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:39:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15850; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:39:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from otis.our-town.com (otis.our-town.com [206.64.104.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15366; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:37:34 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from MYHOSTNAME (ttyA02.our-town.com [206.64.104.49]) by otis.our-town.com (8.8.8/SCO5) with SMTP id LAA05018; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:46:15 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199803131746.LAA05018@otis.our-town.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 10:46:22 -0500 To: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9803131247.AA15363@nile.gnat.com> Subject: Re: 770 + OS2, bad news ... X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.40 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is the video chip a Neomagic? In the several laptops that I've owned including now a TP 380D, there has always been some kind of problem with the Neomagic drivers. My Dell laptop was incapable of running dive or multimedia. I have a computerized directory of the clergy (it's a win3.1 prgm). It ran under wino2 on the Dell, runs fine on my Dell PenPro200, but will not run under winos2 on my TP - it gives an error message about someting about the xx16xxx.dll (a Neomagic driver). The result is that I must load win95 if I want to look up a priest's listing. ================== In <9803131247.AA15363@nile.gnat.com>, on 03/13/98 at 07:47 AM, dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) said: >THe latest drivers still have the dreaded screen blanking problem, it has >happened a couple of times since I installed the latest drivers. >It's really annoying that IBM cannot manage to get OS/2 drivers to work >for the thinkpads, GRRRR! -- ----------------------------------------------------------- wfj@our-town.com Father Winston F Jensen Running OS/2, the stable computer OS MR/2ICE Reader for OS/2 # 252 ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 12:44:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA036071045; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:44:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16716; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:43:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:41:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16283; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:41:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from nb.rss.rockwell.com (snail.nb.rss.rockwell.com [157.152.176.120]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16225; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:41:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from fukatsu-7688.nb.rockwell.com (fukatsu-7688.nb.rockwell.com [129.172.182.89]) by nb.rss.rockwell.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA22025 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:40:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980313094021.006d817c@gauss.ee.calpoly.edu> X-Sender: mfukatsu@gauss.ee.calpoly.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:40:21 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Fukatsu Subject: TP755CD keyboard replacement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The left mouse button on the keyboard to my 755CD is dying. I don't remember exactly when I bought it but I don't have the reciept anyways. I think the model is older than three years old (am I wrong?) so I can't send it in to eazyserv. Has anyone replaced one of these keyboards themselves? I figure one must cost about $99 or so. Can someone point me to where I can buy one if I need to do it myself? Thanks, -Mike From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 13:30:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA059563858; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:30:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19795; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:30:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:28:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19608; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:28:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19580; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:28:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (root@localhost) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07299; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:28:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from dts_jl ([10.145.181.44]) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07293; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:28:18 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313132351.009fab10@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> X-Sender: jloyles@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:23:51 -0500 To: Michael Fukatsu , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: TP755CD keyboard replacement In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19980313094021.006d817c@gauss.ee.calpoly.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 09:40 AM 3/13/98 -0800, Michael Fukatsu wrote: >The left mouse button on the keyboard to my 755CD is dying. I don't >remember exactly when I bought it but I don't have the reciept anyways. I >think the model is older than three years old (am I wrong?) so I can't send >it in to eazyserv. Has anyone replaced one of these keyboards themselves? >I figure one must cost about $99 or so. Can someone point me to where I >can buy one if I need to do it myself? > I think you're hovering on the brink of 3 years, but if you call 800.772.2227 option #3 and give them the serial number, they'll tell you when your warranty expires. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 14:04:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA074385840; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:04:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21863; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:03:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:02:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21707; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:02:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from peritus.com (benden.peritus.com [199.26.190.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21689; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:01:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com [199.26.191.60]) by peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.12/Peritus-3.0) with ESMTP id NAA02206; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:34:36 -0500 Received: from localhost by tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (8.6.9/Peritus-3.0) id NAA14047; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:42:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199803131842.NAA14047@tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com> To: Michael Fukatsu Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP755CD keyboard replacement In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:40:21 PST." <3.0.2.32.19980313094021.006d817c@gauss.ee.calpoly.edu> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:42:36 -0500 From: Don Markuson Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu -> The left mouse button on the keyboard to my 755CD is dying. -> : -> Can someone point me to where I can buy one if I need to do it myself? I've successfully cleaned/restored mouse button operation on a 755's keyboard, but it takes significant care and patience to disassemble/reassemble the keyboard to do so. I haven't replaced a keyboard, but would expect it's somewhat easier. IBM can usually tell you whether your system is still under warranty or not, if you can read them the model# and serial# of the unit. And you can always ask them to quote a price to do this work out of warranty. ..Don From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 15:48:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA122622116; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:48:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28089; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:47:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:42:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27526; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27462; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:41:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from p15.hwts04.loop.net (p15.hwts04.loop.net [207.211.61.150]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA11316; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:41:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803132041.MAA11316@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Robert Dewar" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 07:00:15 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 770 + OS2, bad news ... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 13 Mar 98 07:47:25 EST, Robert Dewar wrote: > >THe latest drivers still have the dreaded screen blanking problem, it has happened a couple of times since I installed the latest drivers. > >It's really annoying that IBM cannot manage to get OS/2 drivers to work for >the thinkpads, GRRRR! > You're going to HATE this suggestion, but have you tried regular old VGA drivers? Maybe a better suggestion - what about GRADD drivers? -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 23 Processes with 101 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 23h 29m 37s 515ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 15:51:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA124102316; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:51:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28488; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:49:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28349; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:49:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28308; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:49:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from p15.hwts04.loop.net (p15.hwts04.loop.net [207.211.61.150]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA12274; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:48:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803132048.MAA12274@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Arjen Meijer" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 12:47:32 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Gradd video drivers planned for thinkpads? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 13 Mar 98 16:02:46 -0200, Arjen Meijer wrote: >The thinkpads do not have optimal video drivers for os/2. >Does anybody know if the GRADD drivers are planned for thinkpad >models? > Have you tried the GRADD drivers, or checked out the device driver website? I have a hard time remembering the device driver site, so someone else could point it out, but new drivers are being added all the time. :) -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 25 Processes with 109 Threads. This machine's uptime is 1d 1h 45m 21s 578ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 15:55:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA126142514; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:55:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28280; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:49:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:48:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28176; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:48:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28127; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:48:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from p15.hwts04.loop.net (p15.hwts04.loop.net [207.211.61.150]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA12109; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:47:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803132047.MAA12109@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Michael Fukatsu" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 12:46:32 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP755CD keyboard replacement Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:40:21 -0800, Michael Fukatsu wrote: >The left mouse button on the keyboard to my 755CD is dying. I don't >remember exactly when I bought it but I don't have the reciept anyways. I >think the model is older than three years old (am I wrong?) so I can't send >it in to eazyserv. Has anyone replaced one of these keyboards themselves? >I figure one must cost about $99 or so. Can someone point me to where I >can buy one if I need to do it myself? > Mike and all, They sell for about $115 new, and those keyboards made by Lexmark have a reputation to have the left mouse button wear out, but nevertheless, it's my favorite ThinkPad keyboard. I hate this 701's keyboard. About your warranty, it *might* still be under warranty. Try to find your invoice/sales receipt. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 25 Processes with 108 Threads. This machine's uptime is 1d 1h 44m 27s 765ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 16:25:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA140654313; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:25:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02175; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:24:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:23:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02085; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:23:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02034; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA08651; Fri, 13 Mar 98 16:20:19 EST Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 16:20:19 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803132120.AA08651@nile.gnat.com> To: dewar@gnat.com, pkhoury@loop.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770 + OS2, bad news ... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu <> THe problem is not nearly serious enough to be worth considering looking at a 640 x 480 postage stamp screen :-) I know nothing about the GRADD drivers ... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 20:48:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA261610098; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:48:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11956; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:47:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:45:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11596; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:45:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11510; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:45:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from p27.hwts04.loop.net (p27.hwts04.loop.net [207.211.61.162]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA21157; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:45:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803140145.RAA21157@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "dewar@gnat.com" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 17:45:15 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 770 + OS2, bad news ... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 13 Mar 98 16:20:19 EST, Robert Dewar wrote: ><>> >THe problem is not nearly serious enough to be worth considering looking at >a 640 x 480 postage stamp screen :-) > >I know nothing about the GRADD drivers ... > Same here. Try just bugging the chipset company (what I do when I have time; sometimes I purposely harrass companies "Do you have OS/2 software?" or "Does this work with OS/2?" or "When will the OS/2 drivers come out?"). -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 25 Processes with 108 Threads. This machine's uptime is 1d 3h 10m 13s 945ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 20:49:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA262210172; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:49:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12373; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:49:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:47:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11958; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:47:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11923; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA19172; Fri, 13 Mar 98 20:45:32 EST Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 20:45:32 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803140145.AA19172@nile.gnat.com> To: dewar@gnat.com, pkhoury@loop.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770 + OS2, bad news ... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu <> Actually I prefer not to wander around looking for miscellaneous drivers, I could easily end up worse off than sticking with the IBM driver. I will keep pounding on IBM. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 20:51:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA263140310; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:51:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11694; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:46:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:44:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11412; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:44:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11400; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from p27.hwts04.loop.net (p27.hwts04.loop.net [207.211.61.162]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA20917; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:43:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803140143.RAA20917@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Don Markuson" , "Michael Fukatsu" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 17:43:34 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP755CD keyboard replacement Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:42:36 -0500, Don Markuson wrote: >-> The left mouse button on the keyboard to my 755CD is dying. >-> : >-> Can someone point me to where I can buy one if I need to do it myself? > >I've successfully cleaned/restored mouse button operation on a 755's keyboard, >but it takes significant care and patience to disassemble/reassemble the >keyboard to do so. I haven't replaced a keyboard, but would expect it's >somewhat easier. > >IBM can usually tell you whether your system is still under warranty or not, >if you can read them the model# and serial# of the unit. And you can always >ask them to quote a price to do this work out of warranty. > > To do the work out of warranty would be about $170 for the labor, and about $115 for the keyboard. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 25 Processes with 107 Threads. This machine's uptime is 1d 3h 8m 31s 859ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 20:56:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA265550590; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:56:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12867; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:55:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12721; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:55:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12699; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:55:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA27860; Fri, 13 Mar 98 20:53:18 EST Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 20:53:18 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803140153.AA27860@nile.gnat.com> To: dewar@gnat.com, pkhoury@loop.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770 + OS2, bad news ... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Paul said <> Um, I think I can figure this out for myself :-) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 21:54:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA290324052; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 21:54:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13323; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:58:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:55:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12804; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:55:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12680; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:54:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from p27.hwts04.loop.net (p27.hwts04.loop.net [207.211.61.162]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA22266; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:54:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803140154.RAA22266@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "dewar@gnat.com" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 17:54:08 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 770 + OS2, bad news ... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 13 Mar 98 20:45:32 EST, Robert Dewar wrote: ><time; sometimes I purposely harrass companies "Do you have OS/2 software?" >>> > >Actually I prefer not to wander around looking for miscellaneous drivers, >I could easily end up worse off than sticking with the IBM driver. I will >keep pounding on IBM. > Okay, bug them like this - "When are the OS/2 drivers comming out?" or "But you guaranteed compatibility with OS/2. Why can't you support your own operating systems?", etc....... -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 25 Processes with 107 Threads. This machine's uptime is 1d 3h 19m 1s 242ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 13 22:38:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA011566684; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:38:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16136; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:35:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15881; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:35:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.245]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15861; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:35:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from laptop (slip129-37-98-131.tx.us.ibm.net [129.37.98.131]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA11464; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:35:06 GMT Message-Id: <005301bd4f02$8ba64320$83622581@laptop> Reply-To: "Tom Franklin" From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Paul Khoury" , "Don Markuson" , "Michael Fukatsu" Cc: Subject: Re: TP755CD keyboard replacement Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:34:54 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have been planning to replace mine also. By the time I checked, the warranty had run only two weeks earlier. Oh well The price is actually $84.75. Follow this link for all parts for your model: http://www.direct.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/;display/category?cgmenbr=1&cgrf nbr=609&topcgrfnbr=609 -----Original Message----- >>-> The left mouse button on the keyboard to my 755CD is dying. >>-> : >>-> Can someone point me to where I can buy one if I need to do it myself? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 14 00:17:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA057132676; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:17:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19566; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:17:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:16:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19419; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:16:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19407; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:15:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from p28.hwts11.loop.net (p28.hwts11.loop.net [207.211.62.133]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA15595; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 21:15:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803140515.VAA15595@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Don Markuson" , "Michael Fukatsu" , "Tom Franklin" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 21:15:17 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP755CD keyboard replacement Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:34:54 -0800, Tom Franklin wrote: >I have been planning to replace mine also. By the time I checked, the >warranty had run only two weeks earlier. Oh well > >The price is actually $84.75. Follow this link for all parts for your >model: >http://www.direct.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/;display/category?cgmenbr=1&cgrf >nbr=609&topcgrfnbr=609 > Ahh, it's gotten cheaper now. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 25 Processes with 111 Threads. This machine's uptime is 1d 4h 31m 39s 164ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 14 10:07:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA288148039; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:07:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06900; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:06:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:04:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06702; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:04:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from eastgate.cyberway.com.sg (eastgate.cyberway.com.sg [203.116.1.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06689; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (d4172.ppp4.cyberway.com.sg [203.116.4.172]) by eastgate.cyberway.com.sg (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA24436 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:04:40 +0800 (SST) Message-Id: <350B0CEC.636F@cyberway.com.sg> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:04:12 +0000 From: Tan Soo Guan Reply-To: sgtan@cyberway.com.sg X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP701C] Maximum supported harddisk capacity ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I'm new to this mailing list and I guess I should introduce myself. My name is Soo Guan and I'm from Singapore. I've recently bought a two-and-a-half-year-old second-hand ThinkPad 701C for S$600 with the following configuration: It's a DX2-50 with 20MB RAM, 360MB HD, port replicator II and no modem. I'm currently running Win 95 on it with Microsoft Office 95 installed with only about 100MB space left. I have a few questions for the group with regards to this machine : - What is the maximum supported harddisk capicity for this machine without using any special software drivers ? (I was told by the service techincian from IBM that it's 810MB but according to Craig's IBM Butterfly Page at http://www-nrg.ee.lbl.gov/leres/butterfly/ the maximum supported is 4GB.) - Anyone had any experience installing IBM DTNA 22160 2160MB HDD into a TP701C ? (I saw a shop in Singapore selling it for about US$250/=) - My NiCad battery pack only lasts about 20 minutes after a full charge and I think it has reached it useful lifespan. Anyone knows whether IBM's 3 year international warranty includes the battery ? Many thanks ! Tan Soo Guan >From warm and sunny Singapore From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 14 10:48:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA005260500; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:48:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07997; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:43:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07885; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from box.hacom.nl (root@box.hacom.nl [193.67.233.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07873; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:43:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from dyn111-amf.hacom.nl (dyn111-amf.hacom.nl [193.67.233.111]) by box.hacom.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA12798 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 16:46:38 +0100 Message-Id: <199803141546.QAA12798@box.hacom.nl> From: "Arjen Meijer" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Sat, 14 Mar 98 16:27:14 -0200 Reply-To: "Arjen Meijer" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Gradd drivers planned for thinkpads? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >The thinkpads do not have optimal video drivers for os/2. >Does anybody know if the GRADD drivers are planned for thinkpad >models? I run the non-accellerated GRADD driver on a Thinkpad 760ED. as I am not able to reinstall the 'normal' video driverafter applying fixpack 5. The exact question is if a ACCELLERATED GRADD driver is planned? Arjen The englisch tag line is something like: Born as $ 25 you will never become 25 cent Wie als Meijer geboren is, wordt nooit een kwartje. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 14 12:43:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA055667415; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:43:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11055; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:40:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10792; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:40:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10780; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from p07.hwts04.loop.net (p07.hwts04.loop.net [207.211.61.142]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA01307; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:40:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803141740.JAA01307@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "sgtan@cyberway.com.sg" Date: Sat, 14 Mar 98 09:40:15 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TP701C] Maximum supported harddisk capacity ? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:04:12 +0000, Tan Soo Guan wrote: >Hi, > > I'm new to this mailing list and I guess I should introduce myself. >My name is Soo Guan and I'm from Singapore. I've recently bought a >two-and-a-half-year-old second-hand ThinkPad 701C for S$600 with the >following configuration: > > It's a DX2-50 with 20MB RAM, 360MB HD, port replicator II and no >modem. I'm currently running Win 95 on it with Microsoft Office 95 >installed with only about 100MB space left. > > I have a few questions for the group with regards to this machine : > > - What is the maximum supported harddisk capicity for this > machine without using any special software drivers ? > (I was told by the service techincian from IBM that it's 810MB > but according to Craig's IBM Butterfly Page at >http://www-nrg.ee.lbl.gov/leres/butterfly/ the maximum >supported is 4GB.) > Just as long as the HD is a 2.5" 12.5 mm drive. 17mm drives will NOT fit. > - Anyone had any experience installing IBM DTNA 22160 >2160MB HDD into a TP701C ? (I saw a shop in Singapore selling >it for > about US$250/=) > I'm not sure, but again, check it's height. > - My NiCad battery pack only lasts about 20 minutes after a full > charge and I think it has reached it useful lifespan. Anyone > knows whether IBM's 3 year international warranty includes the > battery ? > No, the battery is only 1 year. Sorry. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 23 Processes with 84 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 8h 52m 9s 929ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 14 12:44:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA056697478; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:44:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11223; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:43:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:42:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10932; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:42:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (root@lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10867; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from chipie (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA03282; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:45:30 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199803141745.TAA03282@lohi.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Sat, 14 Mar 98 19:42:00 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <350B0CEC.636F@cyberway.com.sg> Cc: Tan Soo Guan Subject: Re: [TP701C] Maximum supported harddisk capacity ? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.46b Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 14 Mar 1998 at 11:04 PM you, Tan Soo Guan , said: > - Anyone had any experience installing IBM DTNA 22160 2160MB >HDD into a TP701C ? (I saw a shop in Singapore selling it for > about US$250/=) I have had precisely the same drive in my TP701C since last September and it has been working just fine. I installed it myself, in the caddy of the original 360 MB drive (I had to drill new holes in it). HTH, Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 14 12:55:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA061188156; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:55:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12057; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:55:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:54:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11956; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:54:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11944; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:54:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibm.net (slip-32-100-104-176.ct.us.ibm.net [32.100.104.176]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA25910 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:54:48 GMT Message-Id: <350AC3E6.534DA72B@ibm.net> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:52:39 -0500 From: Wyn Achenbaum Reply-To: wyn@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Parallel Port problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu A few days ago, I posted an inquiry about my zip drive difficulties with my TP560. It turns out that the parallel port is the problem (I can't print, the CD-ROM doesn't work).. A friend called IBM tech support last night, and tried a couple of things, including running a Looptest (F1 for Easy-Setup, test on parallel port, Ctrl-A for Tool and Looptest). They ran the Looptest with the zip drive, but it should be run with a loopback cable. The three local places IBM suggested were a) uninterested since I didn't buy from them, b) closed, and c) closed. The fourth place had not heard of a loopback cable. What is a loopback cable, and what is the problem I am looking for? Am I going to be replacing the parallel port? The machine is about 6 months old. Any advice? Thanks, Wyn From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 14 13:16:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA070529390; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:16:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12825; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:11:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:10:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12728; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from theta2.ben2.ucla.edu (theta2.ben2.ucla.edu [164.67.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12716; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:10:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from camelot.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk (ciscoserv-227-020.usc.edu [128.125.227.20]) by theta2.ben2.ucla.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA33940 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:10:20 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980314100102.009e4e7c@mail.nuc.ucla.edu> X-Sender: aannala@mail.nuc.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:11:46 -0800 To: From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: DVD on Thinkpad 760CD ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I was thinking about buying an external SCSI DVD drive to hook up to my Thinkpad 760CD through an Adaptec SlimSCSI adaptor. Since the TP760CD as MPEG-2 HHR hardware assisted playback, would this hardware setup be able to play DVD movies? Would any special software be required to playback DVD movies on the TP760CD? What would be the resolution for the region code problem describe below? Thanks, AJ Annala, UCLA School of Medicine >My DVD came with several floppies, one of them labelled "DVD Movie >Region 1 for Windows 95". I think I read somewhere that you can only >install a region code once, and that subsequent installs will not work. >I have no idea if this is true. Presumably this is to keep someone from >being able to access movies from different regions with the same >hardware. Don't you just love the restrictions that are put on digital >audio/video... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 15 01:34:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA086723651; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:34:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00843; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:32:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:30:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00757; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:29:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00738; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:29:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from p25.hwts04.loop.net (p25.hwts04.loop.net [207.211.61.160]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA26438; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 22:26:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pkhoury@loop.com) Message-Id: <199803150626.WAA26438@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "wyn@ibm.net" Date: Sat, 14 Mar 98 22:29:39 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Parallel Port problems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:52:39 -0500, Wyn Achenbaum wrote: >A few days ago, I posted an inquiry about my zip drive difficulties with >my TP560. It turns out that the parallel port is the problem (I can't >print, the CD-ROM doesn't work).. A friend called IBM tech support last >night, and tried a couple of things, including running a Looptest (F1 >for Easy-Setup, test on parallel port, Ctrl-A for Tool and Looptest). >They ran the Looptest with the zip drive, but it should be run with a >loopback cable. The three local places IBM suggested were a) >uninterested since I didn't buy from them, b) closed, and c) closed. >The fourth place had not heard of a loopback cable. > That's weird. >What is a loopback cable, and what is the problem I am looking for? A loopback tests the pins and lines in a serial or parallel port. Am >I going to be replacing the parallel port? The machine is about 6 >months old. > I doubt it; parallel ports RARELY fail; it's probably a software problem. What OS are you trying to use with it? -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 23 Processes with 84 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 7h 26m 7s 710ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 15 06:48:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA211642530; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 06:48:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12527; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 06:42:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 06:41:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12251; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 06:40:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.club-internet.fr (mail.club-internet.fr [194.158.96.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12217; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 06:40:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (ppp-101-132.villette.club-internet.fr [194.158.101.132]) by mail.club-internet.fr (8.8.8/MGC-970630-No_Relay) with ESMTP id MAA03054 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:40:36 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199803151140.MAA03054@mail.club-internet.fr> From: "Manuel VILLARET" To: Subject: RAM On 701 CS Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:46:46 +0100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thinkpad 701 CS IBM REF SU 2630 16 Mo How many additional RAM can go on that specific model? thks Manuel From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 15 06:50:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA212642616; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 06:50:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12535; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 06:42:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 06:40:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12238; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 06:40:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.club-internet.fr (mail.club-internet.fr [194.158.96.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12216; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 06:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (ppp-101-132.villette.club-internet.fr [194.158.101.132]) by mail.club-internet.fr (8.8.8/MGC-970630-No_Relay) with ESMTP id MAA03028 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:40:31 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199803151140.MAA03028@mail.club-internet.fr> From: "Manuel VILLARET" To: Subject: battery low 701CS Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:39:49 +0100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hv following problem with my 701 CS battery.though the battery indicator (Fn+F2)indicates I still have an hour or so to go,the computer turns suddenly off without even letting me save my work.The total working time I have is approx 1 hour before this occurs Is this a problem of "memory effect" or is it just that my battery needs replacement? thanks Manuel thinkpad 701 CS 486 DX 4 16 RAM From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 15 07:34:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA228815290; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:34:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA13884; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:34:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:33:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA13810; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [151.200.199.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA13798; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:33:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id HAA06381; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:41:12 -0500 Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:41:11 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: Manuel VILLARET Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: RAM On 701 CS In-Reply-To: <199803151140.MAA03054@mail.club-internet.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sunday, 15th March 1998, Manuel VILLARET wrote: > Thinkpad 701 CS / IBM REF SU 2630 / 16 Mo > > How many additional RAM can go on that specific model? The 701 (either C or CS) holds only one RAM module. Additionally, either 4 or 8 Mo of RAM is on the system board, depending on the particular 701 model that one has. Since you have 16 Mo, I'd guess that you have 8 Mo on the board and an 8 Mo RAM module. Third-party memory dealers offer modules for the 701 of up to 32 Mo, so presuming that you have 8 Mo on the board, you could have up to 40 Mo of RAM. I believe that IBM only offers modules of up to 16 Mo, so with IBM RAM one could have only 24 Mo. Regards, Christian. -- Christian CAREY From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 15 07:38:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA230035492; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:38:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA14266; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:37:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:37:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA14175; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:37:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA14161; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:37:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA21309; Sun, 15 Mar 98 07:35:46 EST Date: Sun, 15 Mar 98 07:35:46 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803151235.AA21309@nile.gnat.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RAM on 770 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Anyone know if anyone is making 128M modules for the 770 yet? (the machine will take 256 megs, but so far you can only go to 160) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 15 13:28:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA066896538; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:28:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21559; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:28:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:26:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21448; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21436; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:26:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA01618 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 10:26:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 10:26:28 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: IE 4.0.1 on 385ED Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Greetings everyone, Does anyone know why Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0.1 would have this big lag when opening sites and refreshing the screen data compared to running Netscape Communicator 4.04 on the same 385ED machine? I have 80 megs of ram.. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 15 23:27:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA030452430; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:27:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10623; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:25:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:20:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10152; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:20:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10114; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:19:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA20771; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:17:16 -1000 Message-Id: <004b01bd5092$bea6ed60$0f02000a@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Vincent Poy" , Subject: Re: IE 4.0.1 on 385ED Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:19:40 -1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Does anyone know why Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0.1 would have >this big lag when opening sites and refreshing the screen data compared to >running Netscape Communicator 4.04 on the same 385ED machine? I have 80 >megs of ram.. This depends a bit on the web site; IE4 and Netscape4 open bits in different orders, and of course handle Java, Javascript, graphics, etc. with different code. You might also try twiddling the IE4 options. Even on my Sun, Netscape seems to be a bit faster than IE4; personally, I prefer the user interface so much on the latter that I put up with the difference. >HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin Too bad your 385ED doesn't have use the IW chip for sound, eh?-) - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 15 23:29:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA031412569; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:29:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10626; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:25:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:24:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10418; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:24:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10376; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:23:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA03573; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:23:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:23:37 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: David Ross Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IE 4.0.1 on 385ED In-Reply-To: <004b01bd5092$bea6ed60$0f02000a@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 15 Mar 1998, David Ross wrote: > > Does anyone know why Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0.1 would have > >this big lag when opening sites and refreshing the screen data compared to > >running Netscape Communicator 4.04 on the same 385ED machine? I have 80 > >megs of ram.. > > This depends a bit on the web site; IE4 and Netscape4 open bits in different > orders, and of course handle Java, Javascript, graphics, etc. with different > code. You might also try twiddling the IE4 options. I doubt it's the websites because it's fast on my desktop. And I was comparing the same sites at the same time. > Even on my Sun, Netscape seems to be a bit faster than IE4; personally, I > prefer the user interface so much on the latter that I put up with the > difference. Oh well, I need to use IE4 for MS Investor and my Stock Quotes program which uses IE4. > >HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin > > Too bad your 385ED doesn't have use the IW chip for sound, eh?-) Yep... I can hardly hear the sound from this thing. The volume only goes from 1-5 and not 1-10! =( I wonder if the 385ED uses stereo or mono speakers. I'm using both a GUS PnP and the EWS Audio System 64XL. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 16 04:24:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA159740271; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:24:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23301; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:23:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:22:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23158; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23142; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:22:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from p10.hwts13.loop.net (p10.hwts13.loop.net [207.211.62.175]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id BAA03852; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:21:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803160921.BAA03852@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Robert Dewar" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 15 Mar 98 11:56:29 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: RAM on 770 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 15 Mar 98 07:35:46 EST, Robert Dewar wrote: >Anyone know if anyone is making 128M modules for the 770 yet? >(the machine will take 256 megs, but so far you can only go to 160) > > 256MB is nice, too bad you can't go up to 512, because the Pentium should support x TB of RAM (because of the 64 bit bus, whereas the 386DX and 486 only goes up to 2GB). -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (If you get an error, then the server is not online) Sent from my P75 Server The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.030 There are 24 Processes with 88 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 2h 48m 34s 562ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 16 04:24:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA159790274; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:24:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23270; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:23:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:21:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23105; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:21:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23091; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from p10.hwts13.loop.net (p10.hwts13.loop.net [207.211.62.175]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id BAA03839; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:21:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803160921.BAA03839@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Manuel VILLARET" Date: Sun, 15 Mar 98 11:55:29 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: RAM On 701 CS Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:46:46 +0100, Manuel VILLARET wrote: >Thinkpad 701 CS >IBM REF SU 2630 >16 Mo > You can put a 32MB SO-DIMM for a total of 40MB. Technically the 486 supports I think up to 2GB of RAM, but many MBs don't support it. :( -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (If you get an error, then the server is not online) Sent from my P75 Server The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.030 There are 24 Processes with 88 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 2h 47m 24s 757ms. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (If you get an error, then the server is not online) Sent from my P75 Server The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.030 There are 24 Processes with 88 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 2h 47m 34s 851ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 16 04:26:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA161010375; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:26:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23669; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:25:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:24:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23469; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23316; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:23:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from p10.hwts13.loop.net (p10.hwts13.loop.net [207.211.62.175]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id BAA03895; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:22:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803160922.BAA03895@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Christian Carey" , "Manuel VILLARET" Cc: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 15 Mar 98 11:57:33 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: RAM On 701 CS Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:41:11 -0500 (EST), Christian Carey wrote: >On Sunday, 15th March 1998, Manuel VILLARET wrote: > >> Thinkpad 701 CS / IBM REF SU 2630 / 16 Mo >> >> How many additional RAM can go on that specific model? > >The 701 (either C or CS) holds only one RAM module. Additionally, either 4 >or 8 Mo of RAM is on the system board, depending on the particular 701 >model that one has. Since you have 16 Mo, I'd guess that you have 8 Mo on >the board and an 8 Mo RAM module. Third-party memory dealers offer modules >for the 701 of up to 32 Mo, so presuming that you have 8 Mo on the board, >you could have up to 40 Mo of RAM. I believe that IBM only offers modules >of up to 16 Mo, so with IBM RAM one could have only 24 Mo. > Actually, I think that IBM *might* have a 32MB SO-DIMM, but you can go to 40MB. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (If you get an error, then the server is not online) Sent from my P75 Server The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.030 There are 24 Processes with 88 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 2h 49m 39s 140ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 16 12:34:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA072219648; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:34:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19810; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:31:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:24:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19403; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:24:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from arthur.axion.bt.co.uk (mailhub.axion.bt.co.uk [132.146.5.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19324; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:23:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from rambo (actually rambo.futures.bt.co.uk) by arthur.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:55:39 +0000 Received: from mussel.futures.bt.co.uk (actually mussel) by rambo with SMTP (PP); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:46:03 +0000 Received: by mussel.futures.bt.co.uk with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.837.3) id <01BD50E9.DA3D3B90@mussel.futures.bt.co.uk>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:43:15 -0000 Message-Id: From: Ho Chin Keong To: "'THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU'" Subject: [TP 755CX] sound and video Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:46:12 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 Encoding: 14 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi all Been trying to find out what type of sound card is used by 755CX, anyone knows? Is it MWave or others? I am trying to set up some video conferencing tool using Linux on this particular Thinkpad. Hopefully anyone with more experience can throw some light on how to do this. I will be planning to use ivs or vic/vat on Linuux kernel version 2.3.30. Thanks in advance. Any help given will be deeply appreciated. Chin Keong email: ho.chin.keong@bt-sys.bt.co.uk phone: 01473 - 649 520 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 16 17:57:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA232569040; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:57:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08046; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:55:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:53:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07752; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from cheetah.cs.ucla.edu (Cheetah.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.132.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07740; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:53:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from damon@localhost) by cheetah.cs.ucla.edu (8.8.8/UCLACS-3.0) id OAA15272 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:53:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:53:23 -0800 (PST) From: Damon Liu Message-Id: <199803162253.OAA15272@cheetah.cs.ucla.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Memory option for TP 765D Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thinkpad 765D has built-in RAM 32MB. Can I add two 32MB memory (Part # 92G7342) to it and makes it 96MB total? Thanks. //damon From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 16 23:07:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA082827619; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:06:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23076; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:05:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:04:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22852; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:04:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from chele.cais.com (rj@classic2.cais.com [199.0.216.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22808; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:03:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rj@localhost) by chele.cais.com (8.8.8/CAIS8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA18098; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:01:21 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: chele.cais.com: rj owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:01:21 -0500 (EST) From: rj To: Paul Khoury Cc: Christian Carey , Manuel VILLARET , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: RAM On 701 CS In-Reply-To: <199803160922.BAA03895@stevie.loop.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I sit here typing this response on my trusty 701 with an IBM 32MB RAM module nestled inb its memory expansion slot (for a total of 40MB), and itruns just loverly :} If you're really interested I pull the module and get the part number - BTW I got it from PC Connection about a year ago. On Sun, 15 Mar 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > On Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:41:11 -0500 (EST), Christian Carey wrote: > > >On Sunday, 15th March 1998, Manuel VILLARET wrote: > > > >> Thinkpad 701 CS / IBM REF SU 2630 / 16 Mo > >> > >> How many additional RAM can go on that specific model? > > > >The 701 (either C or CS) holds only one RAM module. Additionally, either 4 > >or 8 Mo of RAM is on the system board, depending on the particular 701 > >model that one has. Since you have 16 Mo, I'd guess that you have 8 Mo on > >the board and an 8 Mo RAM module. Third-party memory dealers offer modules > >for the 701 of up to 32 Mo, so presuming that you have 8 Mo on the board, > >you could have up to 40 Mo of RAM. I believe that IBM only offers modules > >of up to 16 Mo, so with IBM RAM one could have only 24 Mo. > > > > Actually, I think that IBM *might* have a 32MB SO-DIMM, but you > can go to 40MB. > > -- > Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org > (If you get an error, then the server is not online) > Sent from my P75 Server > The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 > Revision 9.030 > There are 24 Processes with 88 Threads. > This machine's uptime is 0d 2h 49m 39s 140ms. > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 16 23:09:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA083727744; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:09:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22782; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:03:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:01:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22650; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:01:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from out4.ibm.net (out4.ibm.net [165.87.194.239]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22637; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:01:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from laptop (slip-32-100-143-114.co.us.ibm.net [32.100.143.114]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA120754 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 04:01:03 GMT Message-Id: <004701bd5161$a94fd1a0$f18f6420@laptop> Reply-To: "Tom Franklin (Home)" From: "Tom Franklin" To: "ThinkPad List" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Subject: WTB: Thinkpad Processor Card 755CX or CD X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:56:46 -0800 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am trying to find a Pentium-75 processor card for my Thinkpad 755CD. It is an upgrade for this machine, but shipped inside all 755CX models. The part no. is: 85G8550 Processor Card (Pentium). I am hoping to find someone parting-out thier 755CX model. The Thinkpad 755CD isn't worth much, but I am trying to refresh it cheaply. Please email me with pricing. A breakout of Thinpad 755CD parts are listed here: http://www.direct.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/;display/category?cgmenbr=1&cgrf nbr=609&topcgrfnbr=609 A breakout of Thinpad 755CX parts are listed here: http://www.direct.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/;display/category?cgmenbr=1&cgrf nbr=610&topcgrfnbr=610 -- \\|||// (o) (o) ======.oOO==( )==OOo.======= || || || Thomas D. Franklin || || tom.franklin@usa.net || || || || .oooO Oooo. || =======( )===( )======== \ ( ) / \_) (_/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 17 02:55:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA187191309; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 02:55:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00907; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 02:54:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 02:53:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00817; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 02:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00800; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 02:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from p27.hwts11.loop.net (p27.hwts11.loop.net [207.211.62.132]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA06146 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:52:31 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:52:31 -0800 (PST) Resent-Message-Id: <199803170752.XAA06146@stevie.loop.com> Message-Id: <199803170752.XAA06146@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" Resent-From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" X-Original-To: "Ho Chin Keong" Date: Mon, 16 Mar 98 23:52:12 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TP 755CX] sound and video Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:46:12 -0000, Ho Chin Keong wrote: >Hi all > > Been trying to find out what type of sound card is used by 755CX, >anyone knows? Is it MWave or others? mWave. > I am trying to set up some video conferencing tool using Linux on this >particular Thinkpad. Hopefully anyone with more experience can throw >some light on how to do this. I will be planning to use ivs or vic/vat >on Linuux kernel version 2.3.30. > Thanks in advance. Any help given will be deeply appreciated. > Unfortunately, mWave is not supported on Linux, and it is a shame, too. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (If you get an error, then the server is not online) Sent from my P75 Server The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.030 There are 24 Processes with 88 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 2h 5m 3s 195ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 17 12:30:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA119345857; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:30:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00351; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:24:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:21:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29961; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:21:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (phr@netcom9.netcom.com [192.100.81.119]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29940; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:20:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id JAA08856 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:20:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:20:39 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199803171720.JAA08856@netcom9.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: 755cx sound Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There were two versions of the 755cx: the fancy one with 800x600 screen and MWave, and a less fancy one with 640x480 and no MWave. Yes, there is some kind of hack that lets you load the MWave soundblaster driver under DOS, then boot Linux, so you have a sound card. It doesn't let you use the MWave modem, however. You can probably find info on http://www.muc.de/~hm/linux/thinkpad.html or one of the links coming from it. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 17 12:37:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA122646265; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:37:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01251; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:34:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:31:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00993; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:31:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pollux.uah.edu (hskim@[146.229.5.248]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00944; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:30:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hskim@localhost) by pollux.uah.edu (8.8.7H1/8.8.7) id LAA00576 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:30:18 -0600 From: Hyong-Shik Kim Message-Id: <199803171730.LAA00576@pollux.uah.edu> Subject: APE Support on Linux 2.0.33 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:30:18 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: hskim@computer.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I installed Slackware 3.4 on my ThinkPad 765, and compiled the kernel version 2.0.33 with the option, CONFIG_APM, enabled. What is happening is that the new kernel always panics, while the kernel without APM support does not. The error message begins as follows. APM Bios version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Drive version 1.2) Entry f718:0 cseg16 f000 dseg 20b cseg len ffff dseg len 400 General protection: 0000 ... ... I also tried to do with another version (2.0.30, 2.0.32, 2.1.85), but the result was just the same. Is there anyone who knows about this problem? Any help would be appreciated. Hyong-Shik Kim From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 17 12:43:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA124716614; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:43:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01746; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:38:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:38:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01629; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:38:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from pollux.uah.edu (hskim@[146.229.5.248]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01577; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:38:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hskim@localhost) by pollux.uah.edu (8.8.7H1/8.8.7) id LAA00628 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:37:59 -0600 From: Hyong-Shik Kim Message-Id: <199803171737.LAA00628@pollux.uah.edu> Subject: APM Support on Linux 2.0.33 (again, sorry) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:37:58 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: hskim@computer.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I installed Slackware 3.4 on my ThinkPad 765, and compiled the kernel version 2.0.33 with the option, CONFIG_APM, enabled. What is happening is that the new kernel always panics, while the kernel without APM support does not. The error message begins as follows. APM Bios version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Drive version 1.2) Entry f718:0 cseg16 f000 dseg 20b cseg len ffff dseg len 400 General protection: 0000 ... ... I also tried to do with another version (2.0.30, 2.0.32, 2.1.85), but the result was just the same. Is there anyone who knows about this problem? Any help would be appreciated. Hyong-Shik Kim From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 17 13:02:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA133327745; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:02:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03572; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:59:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:59:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03464; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:59:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03451; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:58:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from gummi.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA24019; Tue, 17 Mar 98 12:58:27 EST Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <350EB9C2.A4173D50@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:58:26 -0500 From: Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: hskim@computer.org Cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: APM Support on Linux 2.0.33 References: <199803171730.LAA00576@pollux.uah.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What APM options did you enable? You can look at the .config file in /usr/src/linux. I have enabled APM on a 760C, a 760E, and now a 770, but if I recall some options caused kernel panics. Here is what I am currently using with 2.0.32: * CONFIG_APM=y * CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE=y * CONFIG_APM_POWER_OFF=y All the others APM options are disabled. If you're still having trouble, I would disable the IDLE option. For me, suspend/resume work fine with these options, and the IDLE option really does cut down on power consumption. If you have CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE turned on, that is probably your problem. I seem to recall the documentation says that if your kernel crashes during boot, this is a likely culprit. --Lee Hetherington From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 17 13:03:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA134447833; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:03:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03883; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:02:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:02:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03794; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:02:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from nb.rss.rockwell.com (snail.nb.rss.rockwell.com [157.152.176.120]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03718; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:01:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from fukatsu-7688.nb.rockwell.com (fukatsu-7688.nb.rockwell.com [129.172.182.89]) by nb.rss.rockwell.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA22969; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:00:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980317100010.006c6eac@gauss.ee.calpoly.edu> X-Sender: mfukatsu@gauss.ee.calpoly.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:00:10 -0800 To: hskim@computer.org, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Fukatsu Subject: Re: APM Support on Linux 2.0.33 (again, sorry) In-Reply-To: <199803171737.LAA00628@pollux.uah.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu How are you booting linux? Are you using lilo or loadlin? On my 755CD, I get kernel panics while booting when I use loadlin with the win95 version of DOS. The fix for me was to either boot with lilo or to boot PC-DOS 7.0 and run loadlin from there. If you are experiencing this perhaps I can give a little more detail. If I am totaly off, you can just nuke this message with a mighty "D"! -Mike At 11:37 AM 3/17/98 -0600, Hyong-Shik Kim wrote: >I installed Slackware 3.4 on my ThinkPad 765, and compiled the kernel >version 2.0.33 with the option, CONFIG_APM, enabled. >What is happening is that the new kernel always panics, while the kernel >without APM support does not. The error message begins as follows. > >APM Bios version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Drive version 1.2) > Entry f718:0 cseg16 f000 dseg 20b cseg len ffff dseg len 400 > General protection: 0000 > ... ... > >I also tried to do with another version (2.0.30, 2.0.32, 2.1.85), but the >result was just the same. Is there anyone who knows about this problem? >Any help would be appreciated. > >Hyong-Shik Kim > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 17 16:10:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA204309050; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:10:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15401; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:01:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:58:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15206; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:58:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15185; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:57:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA97154; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:55:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:55:46 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Cardwizard for NT/95 Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Anyone who's using NT4 on a 380, 560 or 770, there's a new version of the Cardwizard available on the IBM web site. It says it's only for the 380X, 560X, and 770 models (i.e. not the older 380s and 560s) but I put it on my 380D and it is a big improvment. I no longer get the Blue screen of death if I go into suspend with my modem online, and no more annoying pop up messages when going into suspend mode. There's also a version for Win95 that is new, but I haven't tried that as I don't run win95. Josh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 17 17:40:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA221684441; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:40:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21539; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:32:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:30:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21383; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:30:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mixer.visi.com (root@mixer.visi.com [209.98.98.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21365; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:29:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from zonker (13-127.dynamic.visi.com [209.98.13.127]) by mixer.visi.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with SMTP id QAA05220 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:29:49 -0600 (CST) Posted-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:29:49 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199803172229.QAA05220@mixer.visi.com> X-Bmw: 1982 R100RS X-Cage: 1986 Honda CRX Si X-Homepage: HTTP://www.AmericanMold.com/ X-Laptop: Thinkpad 365X X-Sender: timf@mail.visi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:34:34 -0600 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "Timothy W. Foreman" Subject: Cleaning my screen... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What's the best way to clean the LCD screen on my 365X? Any suggestions, don't do this, etc? TIA -- Timothy W. Foreman, Engineering Manager American Mold & Engineering Co. - Minneapolis, Minnesota Email: timf@AmericanMold.com | Voice (612) 571-8642 WWW: http://www.AmericanMold.com/ -- We Design & Build Custom Plastic Injection, Structural Foam, Gas Assist, Die Cast, Blow Mold and Compression Mold Tooling. -- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 17 18:30:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA230817449; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:30:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24292; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:27:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:26:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24172; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:26:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24149; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:26:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from falkor (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA17034; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:25:37 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980317172528.0082f3e0@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:25:28 -0600 To: "Timothy W. Foreman" From: Ron Heiby Subject: Re: Cleaning my screen... Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199803172229.QAA05220@mixer.visi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 04:34 PM 3/17/98 -0600, Timothy W. Foreman wrote: >What's the best way to clean the LCD screen on my 365X? A couple of years ago, I visited EPCOT at Walt Disney World. One of the exhibits was of a bunch of latest/greatest ThinkPads. Several were out on a counter for people to play with. I asked the guy who supervised the whole thing whether he worked for Disney or IBM. He said that he worked for IBM. I then asked him how he kept the screens all looking so nice, with no major greasy smudges. To my complete amazement, he said that he turns off the units and then uses Windex and paper towels. He pointed one out that he said had been in service there for a few months, and had had this screen cleaning treatment several times a day. I could see nothing wrong with the screen at all, not even a scratch. I guess they are tougher than I had thought. Of course, I still use a very soft cloth on mine! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.5.3 Comment: My keys, 0x571B55BD & 0x628ECED2, available from key servers iQEVAwUBNQ8GZeukCaFXG1W9AQGEmAgAk1n8eQNPfi3rTbepWWU8Zi/uAezA1hoD XOJ9wkPENiwQ8FCz9SKz5zFHWQW51PpYm+SBtmsqkLUV+bY2VNslueOTWKK1rMNg 4WM4GTqhE6UlmvardihYPJ0ThKecOXOOKM7QU/sF47JwpgKPMiIDrGIjUyJbEVOS NSiqtotNbhdUxcE3lP86teOGHkIc1ijqEXZBrLyYtKgQsptrmkqQRBu41DKbx9DC ZKJ5KX9Q9bJUuv0sEphwPsQsfzpWsI4/sQBblXPFLtOwQYlCdcXGknv/duyhFPe3 LLVDotmMwiW9zL08d3LTPniTcQbihSVuUEY4cME+KPg4+iHVpfDLzQ== =TVQG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 17 19:49:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA242782157; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:49:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27237; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:43:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:39:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26907; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from enteract.com (root@enteract.com [206.54.252.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26886; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:39:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from usrx2-253.d.enteract.com (usrx2-253.d.enteract.com [207.229.172.253]) by enteract.com (8.8.8/8.7.6) with SMTP id SAA07832 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:39:42 -0600 (CST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: OS/2 Warp 3.0 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:39:24 GMT Organization: http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown Reply-To: epbrown@enteract.com Message-Id: <35100d0d.1147868@mail.enteract.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm thinking of experimenting with this OS on my DSTN 560 for a bit. I've got it lying around, but never gave it a good try because I felt performance suffered compared to my 486s running Windows 3.x. Now I'm curious about support for the 560, since 4.0 has come out. Will the drivers work under the previous version of OS/2? Will the system work fine without them? (Buying 4.0 is out, since this is just to see, not a permanent system choice.) epbrown Stop by the Portable Computing Center for reviews, editorials, and the FAQ on laptop computers. http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 17 20:22:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA248224158; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:22:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28554; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:13:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:09:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28326; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:09:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic.adaptec.com [208.236.45.80]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28286; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:09:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from kingdom.adaptec.com (kingdom.adaptec.com [162.62.162.10]) by magic.adaptec.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29857 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:08:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.corp.adaptec.com (mail1.corp.adaptec.com [162.62.162.12]) by kingdom.adaptec.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11430 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mor3652a.corp.adaptec.com ([162.62.61.138]) by mail1.corp.adaptec.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id AAA15083 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:07:47 -0800 Message-Id: <350F1DA5.7E512B26@corp.adaptec.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:04:37 -0800 From: "Chris Morrison" Organization: Adaptec X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: thinkpad list X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------3EBC6D449F69BE8B96655858" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3EBC6D449F69BE8B96655858 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit remove --------------3EBC6D449F69BE8B96655858 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Christopher Morrison Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Christopher Morrison n: Morrison;Christopher org: Adaptec email;internet: Morrison@corp.adaptec.com title: Product Support Rep x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE end: vcard --------------3EBC6D449F69BE8B96655858-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 01:20:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA292802045; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:20:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10055; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:19:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:15:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09735; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:15:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09723; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:15:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from p16.hwts15.loop.net (p16.hwts15.loop.net [207.211.62.241]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA20436; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:12:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pkhoury@loop.com) Message-Id: <199803180612.WAA20436@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "epbrown@enteract.com" Date: Tue, 17 Mar 98 22:15:16 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp 3.0 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:39:24 GMT, epbrown wrote: > I'm thinking of experimenting with this OS on my DSTN 560 for a >bit. I've got it lying around, but never gave it a good try because I >felt performance suffered compared to my 486s running Windows 3.x. Don't forget that OS/2 runs applications differently, making Windows a bit faster, but OS/2 is 32 bit and runs applications in a different section from the kernel. But you can privately email me for the finer print. Now >I'm curious about support for the 560, since 4.0 has come out. Will >the drivers work under the previous version of OS/2? Will the system >work fine without them? (Buying 4.0 is out, since this is just to see, >not a permanent system choice.) Hmmm, not too sure, but I don't see why 3.0 won't work with the 560. Just be sure to get Fixpack 32 or above for Y2K compliance. 4.0 needs more RAM, but is a pleasure to use, but unless you need the latest Java, voice dication, etc, 3.0 will work well, and works fine on 8MB of RAM, but 12-16 is recommended. Do you have the diskette or the CD-ROM package? -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 23 Processes with 94 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 6h 38m 4s 570ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 01:22:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA293452177; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:22:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10330; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:22:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:19:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09923; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:19:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09890; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:19:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA17234 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:18:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:18:55 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: 385ED Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Greeting everyone, I was wondering if anyone out there knows how to open the 385ED to upgrade the Hard Drive since IBM sent me a 5.1 GB HD to replace the 2.1 GB one in my machine now. Also, how does the HPA displays compare with the FRSTN and TFT? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 02:27:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA004026056; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 02:27:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12053; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 02:26:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 02:22:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11735; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 02:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from enteract.com (root@enteract.com [206.54.252.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11719; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 02:22:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from usrx2-81.d.enteract.com (usrx2-81.d.enteract.com [207.229.172.81]) by enteract.com (8.8.8/8.7.6) with SMTP id BAA16533 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:22:11 -0600 (CST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp 3.0 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:21:54 GMT Organization: http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown Reply-To: epbrown@enteract.com Message-Id: <350f73fc.2278133@mail.enteract.com> References: <199803180612.WAA20436@ritchie.loop.com> In-Reply-To: <199803180612.WAA20436@ritchie.loop.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 17 Mar 98 22:15:16 , you wrote: >Hmmm, not too sure, but I don't see why 3.0 won't work with the 560. It's not so much the OS I'm worried about, as the drivers and upgrades on IBM's ftp site. While there are versions for OS/2, I'm curious as to whether they were written for v 3 or 4, or if they're interchangeable. >Just be sure to get Fixpack 32 or above for Y2K compliance. Doubt I'll be using it that long, unless I'm incredibly impressed ;-) >4.0 needs more RAM, but is a pleasure to use, but unless you need the latest Java, >voice dication, etc, 3.0 will work well, and works fine on 8MB of RAM, but 12-16 is >recommended. The back-up system has 16MB RAM, so I'm okay on that score. >Do you have the diskette or the CD-ROM package? The diskette package with the Online accessories and Works for OS/2. This will all be going down next Wednesday, most likely. In the mean time, isn't there a web page specifically about putting Warp on various ThinkPads, similar to the linux-laptop page? And are there any recommended sites for shareware for Warp? My most commonly used software aside from Works is Netscape Composer, Agent, CuteFTP, and Paint Shop Pro. If I could get pointers to equivalents to these for Warp, that would be a good start. Or is there a good newsgroup for lurking/learning this stuff? epbrown Stop by the Portable Computing Center for reviews, editorials, and the FAQ on laptop computers. http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 03:21:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA008829302; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:21:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15486; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:21:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:19:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15341; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:19:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15287; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:19:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA09042; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:16:23 -1000 Message-Id: <001601bd5246$7d235da0$8b32ab80@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Timothy W. Foreman" , "Ron Heiby" Cc: Subject: Re: Cleaning my screen... Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:18:48 -1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu As a warning, not all window cleaners have the same chemical makeups, and some of these chemicals might eventually cause fogging of the LCD plastic. Not a problem if your brief is to keep some machines looking good for a period of *months*, but a possible consideration for years. I find that a quality microfiber cleaning cloth - the most expensive kind that good photo stores sell - will do a good job all by itself (no cleanser or water), even on my son's greasy fingerprints. Every 2 months or so I will also clean the screen with one of those ridiculously expnsive LCD screen cleaning wipes. - David >said that he worked for IBM. I then asked him how he kept the screens >all looking so nice, with no major greasy smudges. > >To my complete amazement, he said that he turns off the units and then >uses Windex and paper towels. He pointed one out that he said had been >in service there for a few months, and had had this screen cleaning >treatment several times a day. I could see nothing wrong with the >screen at all, not even a scratch. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 04:09:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA020052149; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:09:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17815; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:07:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:06:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17657; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:06:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from enteract.com (root@enteract.com [206.54.252.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17606; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:06:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from usrx2-81.d.enteract.com (usrx2-81.d.enteract.com [207.229.172.81]) by enteract.com (8.8.8/8.7.6) with SMTP id DAA18346 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:06:02 -0600 (CST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Cleaning my screen... Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:05:46 GMT Organization: http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown Reply-To: epbrown@enteract.com Message-Id: <35118d3a.8741296@mail.enteract.com> References: <001601bd5246$7d235da0$8b32ab80@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu> In-Reply-To: <001601bd5246$7d235da0$8b32ab80@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:18:48 -1000, you wrote: >As a warning, not all window cleaners have the same chemical makeups, and >some of these chemicals might eventually cause fogging of the LCD plastic. >Not a problem if your brief is to keep some machines looking good for a >period of *months*, but a possible consideration for years. I was especially shocked to hear someone was using Windex, since someone on comp.sys.laptops ruined her 560's display by spraying cleaner right on the display, which ran down into the circuitry and created a short in the connectors (I'm guessing); the result was a green vertical line across her TFT display, which she sold to someone on the group for about $600 or so - later the new owner was posting asking if anyone knew a fix. I myself prefer lens cloths, or a clean handkerchief (though the display seems to just suck the lint off, in addition to being a dust magnet). epbrown Stop by the Portable Computing Center for reviews, editorials, and the FAQ on laptop computers. http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 04:45:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA026184324; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:45:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19081; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:44:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:44:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19007; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from wuff.mayn.de (root@wuff.mayn.de [194.95.209.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA18994; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:43:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from bedrock by wuff.mayn.de via rmail with uucp id for THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:43:36 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jun-10) Received: by bedrock.mayn.de (UUPC/extended 1.12j); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:11:19 +0100 Message-Id: <350f8fb7.bedrock@bedrock.mayn.de> From: "Rainer Feuerstein" To: "epbrown@enteract.com" Cc: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 10:11:16 +0100 Reply-To: "Rainer Feuerstein" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 X-Mailer-Gate: PMMail<->UUPC/extended Gateway v1.01 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp 3.0 Sender: Rainer Feuerstein Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:39:24 GMT, epbrown wrote: > I'm thinking of experimenting with this OS on my DSTN 560 for a >bit. I've got it lying around, but never gave it a good try because I >felt performance suffered compared to my 486s running Windows 3.x. Now >I'm curious about support for the 560, since 4.0 has come out. Will >the drivers work under the previous version of OS/2? Will the system >work fine without them? At least the 760s had problems with Warp 3. There's a special Video Fix disk available that is necessary for installation of Warp 3 on a 760. In any way, you ought to have a look at IBMs Web pages (www.pc.ibm.com/thinkpad) and get the latest drivers and instructions from there. Warp 3 is still supported, so it should be no problem to use all features of your 560. It is also possible to use the PCMCIA drivers from Warp 4. RFI (www.rfi.de) has the necessary drivers in its support section. Warp 4 installs out of the box, it knows all TPs that came out before 11/96. If you do not have much RAM (8 MB or less), you should - consider using FAT instead of HPFS, - increase your Swapfile (SWAPPATH=F:\ 2048 16384), the 2nd value is the initial amount of Swap space you are using, - rem out XDFLOPPY.FLT once Warp is installed - set PRINTMONBUFSIZE=0,0,0 - set THREADS to a lower value --- kind regards, Rainer Feuerstein From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 05:14:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA029256082; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 05:14:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA20034; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 05:14:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 05:12:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA19843; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 05:12:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.dandy.net (amadei@mail.dandy.net [207.86.192.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA19831; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 05:12:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (amadei@localhost) by mail.dandy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA03587; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 05:21:25 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 05:21:25 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Amadei To: epbrown Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp 3.0 In-Reply-To: <35100d0d.1147868@mail.enteract.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, epbrown wrote: > I'm thinking of experimenting with this OS on my DSTN 560 for a > bit. I've got it lying around, but never gave it a good try because I > felt performance suffered compared to my 486s running Windows 3.x. Now > I'm curious about support for the 560, since 4.0 has come out. Will > the drivers work under the previous version of OS/2? Will the system > work fine without them? (Buying 4.0 is out, since this is just to see, > not a permanent system choice.) I don't think you will have a problem. I still have Warp 3.0 on my home computer because Warp 4 doesn't particularly like my video card. Granted, because I have access to many flavors of Warp, I have hacked and cobbled my system together in a very stable FP 35 of Warp 3.0. I even have most icons and the truetype.dll and warpcenter from Warp 4.0. The only thing that I haven't been able to get to work is the Open32 stuff >from Warp 4.0... it's supposed to be in FP 32 and FP 35, but the Win32-OS2 stuff refuses to work and Lotus won't install... but Lotus checks the OS version... I haven't been able to fool that app. Basically Warp hasn't changed radically since 2.1. Warp 3.0 was named 2.3 internally, and Warp 4.0 is more like 2.4. Don't get me wrong, the add-ons since 2.1 are fantastic, but the core OS hasn't changed much... I believe this is what's called a mature OS. Most of the drivers I see are for Warp 3.0 and Warp 4.0... but then again, alot of the drivers I use are meant for 2.1, but run fine in 4.0. ----Steve Stephen Amadei Director of MIS Dandy Connections, Inc. Atlantic City, NJ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 06:19:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA034809986; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:19:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27721; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:19:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:17:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27548; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:17:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27536; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:16:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA22645; Wed, 18 Mar 98 06:15:14 EST Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 06:15:14 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803181115.AA22645@nile.gnat.com> To: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us, ross@math.hawaii.edu, timf@americanmold.com Subject: Re: Cleaning my screen... Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have been using Windex for years on TFT's with no trouble at all. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 06:22:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA034930119; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:21:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA28039; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:19:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27803; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:19:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27746; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:19:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA27087; Wed, 18 Mar 98 06:17:51 EST Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 06:17:51 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803181117.AA27087@nile.gnat.com> To: epbrown@enteract.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Cleaning my screen... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu << I was especially shocked to hear someone was using Windex, since someone on comp.sys.laptops ruined her 560's display by spraying cleaner right on the display, which ran down into the circuitry and created a short in the connectors (I'm guessing); the result was a green vertical line across her TFT display, which she sold to someone on the group for about $600 or so - later the new owner was posting asking if anyone knew a fix. >> well certainly one has to be careful whatever you use, carelessness of this kind is never a good idea! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 10:27:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA086384825; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:27:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06687; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:24:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:19:36 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06396; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id KAA25639; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:19:34 -0500 Received: from mail.redshift.com (redshift.com [209.54.200.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06082; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:11:25 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from BOB (pm1-215.mry.redshift.com [207.204.197.215]) by mail.redshift.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA29498 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:11:29 -0800 Message-Id: <199803181511.HAA29498@mail.redshift.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 07:10:48 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <350f73fc.2278133@mail.enteract.com> Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp 3.0 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.46a b46 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In <350f73fc.2278133@mail.enteract.com>, on 03/18/98 at 07:21 AM, epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) said: > isn't there a web page specifically about putting Warp on various >ThinkPads, similar to the linux-laptop page? http://www.tpwarper.com/ >recommended sites for shareware for Warp? My most commonly used Walnut Creek CD-ROM http://www.cdrom.com/ Hobbes ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/ BMT Micro http://www.bmtmicro.com/catalog/ IBM Employee Written Software (EWS) ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/os2_ews/ For commercial products look at indelible-blue and os2store. >Warp, that would be a good start. Or is there a good newsgroup for >lurking/learning this stuff? Check the comp.os.os2... newsgroups. Perhaps misc. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Bob Stephan bstephan@redshift.com or BobStephan@compuserve.com Warpstock 97 -- I was there! Happily using OS/2 Warp on the Central California Coast. http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/BobStephan ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 11:34:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA114668896; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:34:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10051; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:24:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:20:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09827; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:20:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09783; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:20:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA13333; Wed, 18 Mar 98 11:18:38 EST Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 11:18:38 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803181618.AA13333@nile.gnat.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: question on 770 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am quite confused about DVD and the 770. I know the low end 770's make you buy a DVD adapter as well as the DVD, but I thought the high end 770 had this built in, was I just wrong on this? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 11:40:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA117259217; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:40:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11266; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:38:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:36:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11077; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:36:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from sammy.netpathway.com (root@sammy.netpathway.com [208.137.139.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11059; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:36:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from egiles (port1-wayn.netpathway.com [208.137.139.198]) by sammy.netpathway.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA23760 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:36:42 -0600 Message-Id: <000a01bd528b$70645fc0$c68b89d0@egiles> From: "Eric Giles" To: Subject: Re: question on 770 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:32:24 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You are correct, the high end model (9549-1AU) has the Enhanced Video Adapter built in. Eric Giles -----Original Message----- From: Robert Dewar To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:25 AM Subject: question on 770 > >I am quite confused about DVD and the 770. I know the low end 770's make >you buy a DVD adapter as well as the DVD, but I thought the high end 770 >had this built in, was I just wrong on this? > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 12:45:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA146383108; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:45:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14962; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:42:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:36:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14472; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:36:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14450; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:36:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA23829; Wed, 18 Mar 98 12:34:36 EST Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 12:34:36 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803181734.AA23829@nile.gnat.com> To: egiles@netpathway.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: question on 770 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu <> So, next question, how about the software for this adapter, which installs the correct region stuff? did this come with the machine (I don't remember any such, but perhaps I just forgot, since i did not have a DVD at the time?) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 12:50:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA148493399; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:49:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14998; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:42:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:41:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14843; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:41:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from sammy.netpathway.com (root@sammy.netpathway.com [208.137.139.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14830; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:41:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from egiles (port1-wayn.netpathway.com [208.137.139.198]) by sammy.netpathway.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA25335 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:41:41 -0600 Message-Id: <008601bd5294$843efd80$c68b89d0@egiles> From: "Eric Giles" To: Subject: Re: question on 770 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:37:23 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The region software diskette, the MPEG Features diskette III, and two diskettes for the DVD Movie software are shipped with the DVD drive. BTW, the DVD system works very well on the 770 (much better than I expected). Hope this helps... Eric Giles -----Original Message----- From: Robert Dewar To: egiles@netpathway.com ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 11:36 AM Subject: Re: question on 770 ><Adapter built in. >>> > >So, next question, how about the software for this adapter, which installs >the correct region stuff? did this come with the machine (I don't remember >any such, but perhaps I just forgot, since i did not have a DVD at the >time?) > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 15:12:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA216111939; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:12:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24176; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:01:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:57:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23854; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:57:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23825; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:57:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from zrqzmlmh ([12.69.72.251]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA9366 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:57:03 +0000 Reply-To: "aztec" From: "aztec" To: Subject: TP 755CDV Questions/Opinions? Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:58:07 -0500 Message-Id: <01bd52a8$2bb1d520$fb48450c@zrqzmlmh> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_019D_01BD527E.42DBCD20" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_019D_01BD527E.42DBCD20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have an opporuntiy to purchase a used 755CDV that is equipped with a = Pentium75, 24 megs of memory, a 350 meg hd and a 1 gig hd, 33.6 modem, = 2x cdrom, 10.4 active, 3.5", 16 bit sound, port-replicator, tv tuner, = loaded with Win95b, and includes case and manuals.=20 I am not very familiar with laptops in general, but need to get one = soon.=20 If anyone could offer any help, such as experiences, esitmated value, = etc, I would certainly appreciate it. 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I = have an=20 opporuntiy to purchase a used 755CDV that is equipped with a Pentium75, = 24 megs=20 of memory, a 350 meg hd and a 1 gig hd, 33.6 modem, 2x cdrom, 10.4 = active,=20 3.5", 16 bit sound, port-replicator, tv tuner, loaded with Win95b, = and=20 includes case and manuals.
 
I am = not very=20 familiar with laptops in general, but need to get one soon.=20
 
If = anyone could=20 offer any help, such as experiences, esitmated value, etc, I would = certainly=20 appreciate it.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_019D_01BD527E.42DBCD20-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 16:01:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA238714887; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:01:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28085; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:52:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:52:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28002; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.texas.net (mail2.texas.net [207.207.0.140]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27970; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ThinkPad.texas.net (tcnet03-35.sat.texas.net [209.99.49.161]) by mail2.texas.net (8.8.8/2.4) with ESMTP id OAA29594 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:52:00 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199803182052.OAA29594@mail2.texas.net> From: "Michael Kutchins" To: "Thinkpad News-group" Subject: IE4 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:51:58 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Many of us have learned (unfortunately) too late that IBM does not support I.E. 4.0 for the TP560 series. Does anyone know if that is likely to ever change? Thanks, Mike Kutchins From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 16:03:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA239675034; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:03:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27943; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:51:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:50:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27823; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:50:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27767; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:50:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from p28.hwts09.loop.net (p28.hwts09.loop.net [207.211.62.73]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA16856; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:42:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pkhoury@loop.com) Message-Id: <199803182042.MAA16856@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "egiles@netpathway.com" , "Robert Dewar" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 12:45:24 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: question on 770 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 18 Mar 98 12:34:36 EST, Robert Dewar wrote: ><Adapter built in. >>> > >So, next question, how about the software for this adapter, which installs >the correct region stuff? did this come with the machine (I don't remember >any such, but perhaps I just forgot, since i did not have a DVD at the >time?) > Speaking of software, does DVD work with OS/2 Warp 4 now? -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.029 There are 25 Processes with 103 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 18h 30m 46s 390ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 16:49:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA260877795; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:49:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01756; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:42:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:39:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01514; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:39:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (mail.islandnet.com [198.53.172.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01493; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:38:54 -0500 (EST) From: Received: by mail.islandnet.com id m0yFQXs-000Ku1C for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:38:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 13:39:43 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <350f73fc.2278133@mail.enteract.com> Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp 3.0 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.46a b46 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In <350f73fc.2278133@mail.enteract.com>, on 03/18/98 at 07:21 AM, epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) said: >On Tue, 17 Mar 98 22:15:16 , you wrote: >>Hmmm, not too sure, but I don't see why 3.0 won't work with the 560. > It's not so much the OS I'm worried about, as the drivers and >upgrades on IBM's ftp site. While there are versions for OS/2, I'm >curious as to whether they were written for v 3 or 4, or if they're >interchangeable. In one case here a driver from the Driver CD that came with v4.0 wouldn't install until I duplicated the line in the .CMD file that checked for v3.0 and ammended it to recognize v4.0. It then installed and ran flawlessly. At the driver level the OS is supposed to be very consistent. As a happy Warp 3.0 user, I wish you success. :) For Warp/Thinkpad info try: The Unofficial Warped Thinkpad Page http://www.warpedthinkpad.simplenet.com/ On the topic of Shareware you may want to look at OS/2 Musthave progams with screenshots and reviews available http://www.musthave.com/ For v3.0 users with little to moderate OS/2 experience I personally recommend the freeware: CFGINFO4.ZIP 562690 6-12-95 (cfginfo4) = It provides a great interface for tweaking your config.sys with line-by-line analysis background information. For v4.0 users, a lot of the basics will still be true. The program predates v4.0 so some care would be wise. Again, Good Luck! Ron [8-) -- ----------------------------------------------------------- rdebeck@islandnet.com Ron De Beck Victoria, B.C., Canada ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 16:57:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA264728267; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:57:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02748; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:54:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:51:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02548; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:51:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net (mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net [206.141.239.142]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02508; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:51:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from abtp ([199.179.164.237]) by mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net (InterMail v03.02.01 118 111) with SMTP id <19980318214305.KFXL6001@[199.179.164.237]>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:43:05 -0600 Message-Id: <003301bd52b7$24322200$e396f2cc@abtp> Reply-To: "Aaron W. Brown" From: "Aaron W. Brown" To: "Eric Giles" , Subject: Re: question on 770 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:43:45 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > >BTW, the DVD system works very well on the 770 (much better than I >expected). > >Hope this helps... > >Eric Giles > I have a few questions related to DVD on the 770: Can the 770 display DVD movies to a television screen? S-Video preferred, composite OK. If so, how does it look? Usually computer video out to TV looks, well, hard to see. Is there a connection for AC-3 output? i.e. pre-decoded Dolby Digital stream. Otherwise I presume you would be stuck with normal (2 chan, maybe surround) stereo sound. On a consumer DVD player the AC-3 connection is typically RF or fiber. TIA, Aaron Brown. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 17:07:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA269278855; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:07:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03770; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:05:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:03:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03513; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:03:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from sammy.netpathway.com (root@sammy.netpathway.com [208.137.139.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03501; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:03:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from egiles (port6-wayn.netpathway.com [208.137.139.203]) by sammy.netpathway.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA31727 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:03:19 -0600 Message-Id: <001601bd52b9$0e40d840$cb8b89d0@egiles> From: "Eric Giles" To: Subject: Re: question on 770 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:58:57 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu -----Original Message----- From: Aaron W. Brown >I have a few questions related to DVD on the 770: > >Can the 770 display DVD movies to a television screen? S-Video preferred, >composite OK. >If so, how does it look? Usually computer video out to TV looks, well, >hard to see. I also feared what the TV output would look like after previous experience with the poor quality from my 760ED. When I hooked the 770 up for the first time and started a DVD movie, I couldn't believe how great the picture quality was. I am not sure how it stands up to a standalone DVD player (since I have never seen one), but I can bet there is probably no difference at all, or at least negligible to most eyes. This was using the composite output with a cheap RCA cable, so I can imagine that the S-video would be even better. You won't be disappointed in the picture quality at all. >Is there a connection for AC-3 output? i.e. pre-decoded Dolby Digital >stream. Otherwise I presume you would be stuck with normal (2 chan, maybe >surround) stereo sound. On a consumer DVD player the AC-3 connection is >typically RF or fiber. There is an output on the enhanced video adapter for AC-3, but it requires an optional connector cable to access it. I believe that it uses the same connector that is supplied with the unit for video output and input, and you use the RCA audio out to feed your sound system. Eric Giles From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 17:31:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA280880274; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:31:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05553; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:18:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:16:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05302; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:16:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.1.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05267; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:16:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.3.194]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA28914; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:16:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.40); 18 Mar 98 23:16:12 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.40); 18 Mar 98 23:15:52 +0200 Received: from babylon5.stelarcom.de.0.168.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA (132.187.248.153) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.40); 18 Mar 98 23:15:47 +0200 From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" , "Stephen Amadei" Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 23:06:26 Reply-To: "Alexander Wagner" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp 3.0 Message-Id: <56845112B31@stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 18 Mar 1998 05:21:25 -0500 (EST), Stephen Amadei wrote: Hello! >Basically Warp hasn't changed radically since 2.1. Warp 3.0 was named >2.3 internally, and Warp 4.0 is more like 2.4. Oh, that's only about compatibility. You know that OS/2 says it is DOS 20.x? Thats the same with the 2.x ther're some apps which would refuse running if OS-Ver is greater than 2 caus they thinkt that couldn't be. So IBM decided to label OS/2 with Version 2.x, 3.x, 4.x, 5.x, 6.x but let it say internaly it is 2.0, 2.1, 2.3, 2.4, 2.5, 2.6... That has nothing to do with "no changes in kernel". The Warp-Kernel especially is in some places rewritten AFAIK. It's no 2.x-Kernel fixed up. Also the Warp 4-Kernel. >Don't get me wrong, the >add-ons since 2.1 are fantastic, but the core OS hasn't changed much... Wouldn't say it that way. I'd say: it is realy compatible to the old software. >Most of the drivers I see are for Warp 3.0 and Warp 4.0... but then again, >alot of the drivers I use are meant for 2.1, but run fine in 4.0. That is IBM: Protect your investment. Why should a driver written for 2.x not work with 4.x? What reason could I have to change the system at it's basics... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 17:38:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA283610687; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:38:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07602; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:35:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:32:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07350; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:32:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net (mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net [206.141.239.142]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07334; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:32:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from abtp ([199.179.164.237]) by mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net (InterMail v03.02.01 118 111) with SMTP id <19980318222413.KJYH6001@[199.179.164.237]>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:24:13 -0600 Message-Id: <003c01bd52bc$e4005c00$e396f2cc@abtp> Reply-To: "Aaron W. Brown" From: "Aaron W. Brown" To: "Michael Kutchins" , "Thinkpad News-group" Subject: Re: IE4 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:26:25 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >Many of us have learned (unfortunately) too late that IBM does not support >I.E. 4.0 for the TP560 series. Does anyone know if that is likely to ever >change? > >Thanks, > >Mike Kutchins Still? They used to say, "Oh, IE4 is beta software." What's their excuse now? I think IBM should improve it's relationship with Microsoft. I'm tired of being shortchanged as they both continue to fight this OS turf war. IBM's stance sounds like a cranky 3 year old who didn't get their way. I wonder when IBM will support Windows98? It comes out soon (May?). Are they beta testing on their own hardware? Native MPEG2 and DVD support is included in '98, is a 770 supported out of the box? Are older IBM Thinkpad drivers on the '98 CD? Is the help desk staff getting up to speed on installation/upgrade snafus? I realize '98 is not the major upgrade that '95 was. I just hope they have learned from recent history that Thinkpad customers expect better/faster support than what they got when '95 came out. Aaron Brown. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 17:49:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA289111343; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:49:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08853; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:46:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:44:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08483; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08468; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:44:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA18803; Wed, 18 Mar 98 17:42:16 EST Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 17:42:16 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803182242.AA18803@nile.gnat.com> To: egiles@netpathway.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: question on 770 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu <> I don't understand you can't feed an AC3 sound system from the RCA audio out ... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 17:54:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA291441660; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:54:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09466; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:50:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:47:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08941; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:47:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08895; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:47:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA20374; Wed, 18 Mar 98 17:45:35 EST Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 17:45:35 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803182245.AA20374@nile.gnat.com> To: A.Wagner@teamos2.de, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, amadei@dandy.net Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp 3.0 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Can we please remind ourselves to avoid OS wars on this mailing list, the polemic about OS/2 under this subject matter is coming close to the line, and its thinkpad relevance is hard to find! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 19:34:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA039337689; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:34:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16297; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:33:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:31:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16168; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:31:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16147; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA15989; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:28:25 -1000 Message-Id: <001901bd52ce$456c2da0$f132ab80@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Michael Kutchins" , "Thinkpad News-group" Subject: Re: IE4 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:30:49 -1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >Many of us have learned (unfortunately) too late that IBM does not support >I.E. 4.0 for the TP560 series. Does anyone know if that is likely to ever >change? I'm running IE4 on my TP560; have been for some time. It was flaky until I installed a post-IE4 BIOS. (You also need fairly recent video drivers; sometimes installing or reinstalling these *after* installing IE4 resolves problems.) I *do* have some other problems (for example, inability to run in W95 safe mode) which are possibly peripherally related to IE4, in the sense that some of the DLL versions wanted by some of my software might not be 100% compatible with the ones IE4 supplied. However, I believe that if someone buys a new TP560, puts in the latest BIOS and drivers, installs IE4 (and then perhaps reinstalls the video drivers) then IE4 will run fine on the 560. - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 23:07:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA128320448; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:07:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25227; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:06:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:02:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24975; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:02:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from chele.cais.com (rj@chele.cais.com [199.0.216.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24961; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:01:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rj@localhost) by chele.cais.com (8.8.8/CAIS8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA06075; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:01:47 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: chele.cais.com: rj owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:01:47 -0500 (EST) From: rj To: Joshua Hosseinof Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Cardwizard for NT/95 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu anyone know if this cardwizard will work on a 701 running nt4? tia On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, Joshua Hosseinof wrote: > Anyone who's using NT4 on a 380, 560 or 770, there's a new version of the > Cardwizard available on the IBM web site. It says it's only for the 380X, > 560X, and 770 models (i.e. not the older 380s and 560s) but I put it on my > 380D and it is a big improvment. I no longer get the Blue screen of death > if I go into suspend with my modem online, and no more annoying pop up > messages when going into suspend mode. There's also a version for Win95 > that is new, but I haven't tried that as I don't run win95. > > Josh > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 18 23:09:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA129000556; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:09:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25546; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:05:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25152; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:05:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from chele.cais.com (rj@chele.cais.com [199.0.216.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25132; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:05:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rj@localhost) by chele.cais.com (8.8.8/CAIS8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA06318; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:05:30 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: chele.cais.com: rj owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:05:29 -0500 (EST) From: rj To: "Timothy W. Foreman" Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Cleaning my screen... In-Reply-To: <199803172229.QAA05220@mixer.visi.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu i've been using endust for electronics and it seems to work fine. I do not spray the screen directly, rather i spray a soft cloth and then wip the screen gently. On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, Timothy W. Foreman wrote: > What's the best way to clean the LCD screen on my 365X? > > Any suggestions, don't do this, etc? > > TIA > > > -- > Timothy W. Foreman, Engineering Manager > American Mold & Engineering Co. - Minneapolis, Minnesota > Email: timf@AmericanMold.com | Voice (612) 571-8642 > WWW: http://www.AmericanMold.com/ > -- > We Design & Build Custom Plastic Injection, Structural Foam, > Gas Assist, Die Cast, Blow Mold and Compression Mold Tooling. > -- > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 19 00:01:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA151723709; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:01:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27919; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:58:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27714; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:58:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27701; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:58:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from p24.hwts04.loop.net (p24.hwts04.loop.net [207.211.61.159]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA01825; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:57:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803190457.UAA01825@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Alexander Wagner" , "Stephen Amadei" , "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 20:57:21 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp 3.0 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 18 Mar 98 23:06:26, Alexander Wagner wrote: >On Wed, 18 Mar 1998 05:21:25 -0500 (EST), Stephen Amadei wrote: > >Hello! > >>Basically Warp hasn't changed radically since 2.1. Warp 3.0 was named >>2.3 internally, and Warp 4.0 is more like 2.4. > >Oh, that's only about compatibility. You know that OS/2 says it is >DOS 20.x? Thats the same with the 2.x ther're some apps which would >refuse running if OS-Ver is greater than 2 caus they thinkt that >couldn't be. So IBM decided to label OS/2 with Version 2.x, 3.x, 4.x, >5.x, 6.x but let it say internaly it is 2.0, 2.1, 2.3, 2.4, 2.5, >2.6... That has nothing to do with "no changes in kernel". The >Warp-Kernel especially is in some places rewritten AFAIK. It's no >2.x-Kernel fixed up. Also the Warp 4-Kernel. > >>Don't get me wrong, the >>add-ons since 2.1 are fantastic, but the core OS hasn't changed much... > >Wouldn't say it that way. I'd say: it is realy compatible to the old >software. > >>Most of the drivers I see are for Warp 3.0 and Warp 4.0... but then again, >>alot of the drivers I use are meant for 2.1, but run fine in 4.0. > >That is IBM: Protect your investment. Why should a driver written for >2.x not work with 4.x? What reason could I have to change the system >at it's basics... > > And I find this issue also relevant for older ThinkPads out of production, where newer drivers are hard to come by. At least you don't have the problem with a 2.x driver like Win95 has with a 3.1x driver. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (If you get an error, then the server is not online) Sent from my P75 Server The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.030 There are 25 Processes with 86 Threads. This machine's uptime is 1d 0h 32m 54s 382ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 19 14:11:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA205184689; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:11:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05798; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:07:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:01:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05329; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:01:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05296; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:01:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803191901.OAA05296@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Fri, 18 Mar 1988 11:59:11 -0800 (PST) From: "Victor Kress" To: "Thinkpad mailing list" Date: Thu, 19 Mar 98 11:01:07 +0500 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Victor Kress's Registered PMMail 1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: aging computers, big disks, 770 compatibility and screen cleaning Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have an aging TP750 which is running remarkably well (partially due to advice I received from this group after spilling wine into the keyboard). I will eventually replace it with a newer model (probably a 770) but I can't bring myself to retire it yet. The memory (20M) and disk (540M) are bursting at the seams, but I am hesitant to spend money on upgrades. I am considering installing a 2.5" drive in the 4Gb range, but I wanted to confirm four points. 1) Will this work on an old 750? 2) when I do finally get the 770, will I be able to transfer the disk to the new machine? 3) If I get an IBM drive, will I still have hibernation? 4) What would be the best drive to get (function more important than cost). Regarding my eventual computer upgrade, Is it safe to assume that any thinkpad will eventually be able to run linux and warp, provided I stay away from models with the NeoMagic video chip? Which models run smoothest right now? Regarding screen cleaning, I have been using windex or ethanol for almost 4 years and the screen looks fine. Secrets are 1) keep your hands off the screen. 2) lightly dust frequently 3) Don't smoke (anything :). 4) Turn your head before you sneeze 5) If you follow 1-4, you should only have to really clean the screen every 2-3 months. Do this gently with a minimum of fluid. ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 19 16:12:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA258471944; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:12:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14520; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:08:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:06:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14249; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:06:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from cheetah.cs.ucla.edu (Cheetah.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.132.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14215; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:05:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from damon@localhost) by cheetah.cs.ucla.edu (8.8.8/UCLACS-3.0) id NAA03964 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:05:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:05:09 -0800 (PST) From: Damon Liu Message-Id: <199803192105.NAA03964@cheetah.cs.ucla.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Take the Li-Ion battery out whenever it is not in use Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I don't use my Li-Ion battery very often. In order to preserve my battery life, is it okay to take it out while I am using the AC power? Thanks. //damon From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 19 17:51:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA003597910; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:51:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20592; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:49:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:46:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20362; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:46:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20335; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:46:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from falkor (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id QAA19889; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:44:16 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980319164342.009337e0@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:43:42 -0600 To: Damon Liu From: Ron Heiby Subject: Re: Take the Li-Ion battery out whenever it is not in use Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199803192105.NAA03964@cheetah.cs.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 01:05 PM 3/19/98 -0800, Damon Liu wrote: >I don't use my Li-Ion battery very often. >In order to preserve my battery life, is it okay to take it out >while I am using the AC power? My TP755CE uses a NiMH battery. It runs just as well with or without the battery. I leave the battery in all the time. In addition to being one less thing to mess around with before or after "going portable", it acts as a built-in UPS while on AC power. I consider the extra "wear and tear" I put on the battery in this "UPS mode" to be a bit of inexpensive insurance against power outages. I'm not always running at a location with a UPS at my desk. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.5.3 Comment: My keys, 0x571B55BD & 0x628ECED2, available from key servers iQEVAwUBNRGfm+ukCaFXG1W9AQEbpQgAlUZL3poC/dT+T/V2Jp5uDrIA4avt2NrJ eK5lya5zJrQlXFCgPGtKjl0gbrU0jSy8rrqXoG3lS/jI1rzenhPVQuTiDbTX9fvi iUQBzuOxK/QZpncIZ6PGIN407y2gmAUz4ShmacDqCzGmlCJKT/aJkG3E4Uspt+QD 57HfQFislSWnKyjBCIS3yVV6J3cCZUcrpKQxtwgNHSOFK9KlEHp7a02AJ5okWRgA DMFOuAoDa3Jvx440tscFHZArqA7ly6Ezm0DlzWVVgQ3hlJ8nepcCo7jCM6U0QPYg N82Hn3+Li9megEAbWZintqkmvu3kITypdbRs3wlgxxg1O++IQJDaSw== =Fe4M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 20 13:01:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA182636881; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:01:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05322; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:51:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:47:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05069; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:47:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.trincoll.edu (mail.cc.trincoll.edu [157.252.10.251]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05036; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:46:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from dhowery.pc.trincoll.edu by mail.trincoll.edu with SMTP (8.6.12/20-main-dsc) id MAA28213 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:47:12 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980320125042.006888e4@mail.trincoll.edu> X-Sender: dhowery@mail.trincoll.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:50:42 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Howery Subject: ThinkPad 701 Hard Drive Caddy Wanted Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi All: I am finally ready to buy a larger hard drive for my old 701 but wish to retain the old 720 meg HD and caddy for Linux. Does any one have a spare Hard Drive caddy to sell or know where one is available at a reasonable price? *********************************************************** David C. Howery | Department of Biology | Email - dhowery@trincoll.edu Trinity College | Phone - (860) 297-5189 300 Summit Street | FAX - (860) 297-2538 Hartford, CT 06106-3100 | *********************************************************** From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 20 15:03:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA238174205; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:03:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12050; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:57:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:52:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11483; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:52:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.accessus.net (postal.accessus.net [204.248.93.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11371; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:51:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from Doc.accessus.net (207-206-190-150.accessus.net [207.206.190.150] (may be forged)) by mail.accessus.net (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA16985 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:55:54 -0600 Message-Id: <000901bd5439$d5919980$96bececf@Doc.accessus.net> From: "Stan Blank, Ph.D." To: Subject: 701c mushy left mouse button Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:53:19 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm sure this has been discussed before: My 701c has a mushy left mouse button (lost its click -- which often happens during the aging process.....), anyway, the button appears to function properly. Question: In the experiences of this group, is this worth an Easyserv (it's under warranty until Oct. '98)? If the button is going to continue working (I can live without the click), then do I want to risk sending the unit back for repair --- and possibly get a "more used" keyboard than I already have? Thanks for any experiences/thoughts/etc. ---------------------------------------- Stan Blank, Ph.D. Wayne City High School Wayne City, IL 62895 ---------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 20 17:03:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA294151389; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:03:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18512; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:59:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:51:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17861; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.deltanet.com (mail2.deltanet.com [199.171.190.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17840; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:50:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from pepceo (anx-ana6076.deltanet.com [205.230.215.76]) by mail2.deltanet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18201; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:50:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980320133511.008dbcf0@pop.deltanet.com> X-Sender: pepsales@pop.deltanet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:35:11 -0800 To: David Howery From: Leonard Wesson Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701 Hard Drive Caddy Wanted Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980320125042.006888e4@mail.trincoll.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 12:50 PM 3/20/98 -0500, you wrote: >Hi All: > >I am finally ready to buy a larger hard drive for my old 701 but wish to >retain the old 720 meg HD and caddy for Linux. Does any one have a spare >Hard Drive caddy to sell or know where one is available at a reasonable price? > > *********************************************************** > David C. Howery | > Department of Biology | Email - dhowery@trincoll.edu > Trinity College | Phone - (860) 297-5189 > 300 Summit Street | FAX - (860) 297-2538 > Hartford, CT 06106-3100 | > *********************************************************** > Hi David, We have our 3rd party caddy available for $79 + shipping. Best Regards, Leonard email: pepsales@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM 714-418-0113 Tel 714-418-0117 Fax WEB: http://www.portables.com >> Please include this entire message for reference << From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 20 17:03:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA294241396; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:03:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18514; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:55:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18082; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:55:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from SNEEZY.USU.EDU (sneezy.usu.edu [129.123.1.87]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18066; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:55:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from usu.edu (slppj.dorms.usu.edu) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.1-9 #23984) with ESMTP id <01IUW65Q5UHU9TD89E@cc.usu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:55:12 MST Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:55:46 -0700 From: Greg Alvandian Subject: Re: 701c mushy left mouse button To: "Stan Blank, Ph.D." Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <3512E5E2.D2EAEA07@usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <000901bd5439$d5919980$96bececf@Doc.accessus.net> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Stan, When my left mouse button started doing that, I gently pried it off to see what was under it. To my surprise, I found a piece of scotch tape. So I cut another piece of scotch tape to match the worn out one and applied it. It wasn't a complete fix but the response is a little better. Your milage may vary. -Greg A. p.s. perhaps more than one pice of tape may improve the feel some more, it isn't hard to remove if it ends up making it worse or something. Stan Blank, Ph.D. wrote: > > I'm sure this has been discussed before: My 701c has a mushy left mouse > button (lost its click -- which often happens during the aging > process.....), anyway, the button appears to function properly. Question: > In the experiences of this group, is this worth an Easyserv (it's under > warranty until Oct. '98)? If the button is going to continue working (I can > live without the click), then do I want to risk sending the unit back for > repair --- and possibly get a "more used" keyboard than I already have? > > Thanks for any experiences/thoughts/etc. > > ---------------------------------------- > Stan Blank, Ph.D. > Wayne City High School > Wayne City, IL 62895 > ---------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 20 22:37:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA143271475; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:37:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28554; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:35:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:34:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28434; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:34:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28415; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:33:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from p21.hwts03.loop.net (p21.hwts03.loop.net [207.211.61.126]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA05764; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:33:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803210333.TAA05764@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Stan Blank, Ph.D." , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 20 Mar 98 20:34:00 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701c mushy left mouse button Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:53:19 -0600, Stan Blank, Ph.D. wrote: >I'm sure this has been discussed before: My 701c has a mushy left mouse >button (lost its click -- which often happens during the aging >process.....), anyway, the button appears to function properly. Question: >In the experiences of this group, is this worth an Easyserv (it's under >warranty until Oct. '98)? If the button is going to continue working (I can >live without the click), then do I want to risk sending the unit back for >repair --- and possibly get a "more used" keyboard than I already have? > >Thanks for any experiences/thoughts/etc. > You might want to send it back before it's too late, but it also depends on how much it bothers you. It REALLY bothered me, but took me months to send it in (hassle with Easyserve, and find a time when I didn't need it at school). About getting a worse keyboard, that wouldn't suprise me. Now I have working mouse buttons, but a broken TrackPoint III stick, because this keyboard is about as bad as the last one. I bet that the quality problems are why IBM doesn't use this keyboard in newer machines... -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (If you get an error, then the server is not online) Sent from my P75 Server The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.030 There are 35 Processes with 102 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 20h 21m 26s 625ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 20 22:38:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA143411496; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:38:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28724; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:37:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:36:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28631; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:36:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28530; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:35:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from p21.hwts03.loop.net (p21.hwts03.loop.net [207.211.61.126]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA05969; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:35:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803210335.TAA05969@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Greg Alvandian" , "Stan Blank, Ph.D." Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 20 Mar 98 20:35:53 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701c mushy left mouse button Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:55:46 -0700, Greg Alvandian wrote: >Stan, >When my left mouse button started doing that, I gently pried it off to >see what was under it. To my surprise, I found a piece of scotch tape. >So I cut another piece of scotch tape to match the worn out one and >applied it. It wasn't a complete fix but the response is a little >better. Your milage may vary. >-Greg A. >p.s. perhaps more than one pice of tape may improve the feel some more, >it isn't hard to remove if it ends up making it worse or something. If it's not that bad, then this is the best way to go. I only sent mine in ultimately (along with the OTHER problems), because the mouse button COMPLETELY came off, and also lost it's click. I did the same thing with the tape, and it works too. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (If you get an error, then the server is not online) Sent from my P75 Server The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.030 There are 34 Processes with 99 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 20h 23m 11s 507ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 21 01:33:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA212952011; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:33:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04608; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:32:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:31:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04531; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:31:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.teleport.com (mail1.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04511; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:31:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from pdx05-pm2-19.teleport.com (pdx05-pm2-19.teleport.com [204.202.160.147]) by mail1.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA15043 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:31:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:31:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803210631.WAA15043@mail1.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bryan Daum Subject: Re: 701c mushy left mouse button Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu A real hard call on the service gamble...mine is also mushy but still functioning normally and, dreading service, I have put off the service until it is really a problem...I thought I was also having pc card socket problems but when that proved not so I deferred the service. Do we get used keyboards if the board needs replacement? Are new keyboard purchases possible with this nice keyboard? I am well aware that Paul hates it -and there may be others, but I like the feel of it and would consider the purchase of a new one if it came to that and it was a service upgrade of some kind. Bryan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 21 01:39:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA215022391; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:39:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04981; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:38:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04905; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:38:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04893; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:38:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from p26.hwts16.loop.net (p26.hwts16.loop.net [207.211.63.41]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id WAA23161; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:38:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803210638.WAA23161@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bryan Daum" , "Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 20 Mar 98 23:38:39 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701c mushy left mouse button Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:31:25 -0800 (PST), Bryan Daum wrote: >A real hard call on the service gamble...mine is also mushy but still >functioning normally and, dreading service, I have put off the service until >it is really a problem...I thought I was also having pc card socket problems >but when that proved not so I deferred the service. > >Do we get used keyboards if the board needs replacement? I wouldn't be suprised. I just got my new Multiport II today, and the power in looks a little worn, so I think IBM just "refurbishes" the parts. Are new keyboard >purchases possible with this nice keyboard? I am well aware that Paul hates >it -and there may be others, but I like the feel of it and would consider >the purchase of a new one if it came to that and it was a service upgrade of >some kind. > Well, you got my attention now. I guess that I would so the same as well, considering that I need the computer to be at least functional until I get a better notebook. :) -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (If you get an error, then the server is not online) Sent from my P75 Server The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.030 There are 33 Processes with 103 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 23h 26m 3s 953ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 21 12:40:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA162222020; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:40:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25679; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:39:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:37:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25555; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:37:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25519; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:37:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28398 invoked by uid 66); 21 Mar 1998 17:35:24 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 21 Mar 98 12:35 CET From: hm@seneca.muc.de (Harald Milz) Subject: Re: Take the Li-Ion battery out whenever it is not in use To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Organization: Linux.DE X-Pgp-Signed: Id=0x7ADC4839; access-type=Finger; Address=hm@muc.de; X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-No-Archive: yes Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Damon Liu (damon@CS.UCLA.EDU) wrote: > I don't use my Li-Ion battery very often. > In order to preserve my battery life, is it okay to take it out > while I am using the AC power? No need for this. The batteries have some internal intelligence which disconnects them from the power bus if they are full. Older technologies like NiCD or NiMH have "memory effect problems" but Li-Ion hasn't. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 21 12:42:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA162962146; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:42:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25983; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:41:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:41:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25867; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:41:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25810; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:40:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA12920 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:34:51 -0500 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms02.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.194]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA35624 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:37:37 -0500 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU002 id 5040200013089066; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:42:28 -0500 From: D04NMS17/04/M/IBM To: Subject: William Stevenson/Raleigh/IBM is out of the office. Message-Id: <5040200013089066000002L062*@MHS> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:42:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am out of the office from 03/20/98, returning 04/06/98. You will receive only this notification of my absence prior to my return, at which time I will respond. I will be checking email and will respond as soon as possible From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 22 00:39:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA149655181; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:39:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10240; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:38:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:36:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10134; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:36:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.p3.net (root@mail.p3.net [206.67.12.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10122; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:36:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (horsham-ts1-239.p3.net [206.137.133.239]) by mail.p3.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA01958 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:36:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980322003655.006fac00@pop.p3.net> X-Sender: mark@pop.p3.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:36:55 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Mark L." Subject: Now it's the MONITOR!!!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu When I start machine (365ED) the screen starts to glow but that's it. Nothing is on the screen however it is illuminated. This happened once before about a month ago but it never happened again until now. I turned it off and back on again about 20 times. Any ideas?? Mark From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 22 00:51:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA154415894; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:51:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10792; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:50:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:50:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10719; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:50:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10707; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:50:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-9 #9830) id <01IUY0MZOF8W9N7MME@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:50:09 MST Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:41:15 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Cleaning my screen... In-Reply-To: "Message dated Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:05:46 +0000 (GMT)" <35118d3a.8741296@mail.enteract.com> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IUY10Z2W949N7MME@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <001601bd5246$7d235da0$8b32ab80@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu> <001601bd5246$7d235da0$8b32ab80@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I was especially shocked to hear someone was using Windex, since > someone on comp.sys.laptops ruined her 560's display by spraying > cleaner right on the display, which ran down into the circuitry and > created a short in the connectors (I'm guessing) Windex has amonia in it, not the best thing for electrical connections which are undoubtly at the bottom of the display. If you use it spray it on the paper towel or whatever first so it can't drip down into the display... Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 22 06:38:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA293206722; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 06:38:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23511; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 06:38:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 22 Mar 1998 06:37:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23438; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 06:37:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from munich.netsurf.de (laurin.munich.netsurf.de [194.64.166.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23426; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 06:37:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp560e (ns1136.munich.netsurf.de [195.180.235.136]) by munich.netsurf.de (8.8.5/8.7) with SMTP id MAA19291 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:37:07 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199803221137.MAA19291@munich.netsurf.de> From: "Hans Juergen Rauscher" To: "ThinkPad mailing list" Date: Sun, 22 Mar 98 12:37:03 +0100 Reply-To: "Hans Juergen Rauscher" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP560 IrDA networking Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, i'm using a ThinkPad 560E (modell 2640-400) with OS/2 Warp V4, IrDA NDIS2 device drivers ( V2R2_647) from TP-IrDA disk v1.01 and an JetEye/Net IrDA-to-ethernet converter. Works good at 115kBit/second (IrDA v1.00 compatible), but trying to use it as its full speed 4MBit/second gives me some problems with the assigend DMA to the IrDA port. I assumed problems with using the parallel port and IrDA with an DMA, but see my testing results: parallel port IrDA port result ECP mode, DMA 0 DMA 3 crashes EPP mode, no DMA DMA 3 crashes ECP mode, DMA 3 DMA 0 crashes EPP mode, no DMA DMA 0 crashes ECP mode, DMA 0 no DMA works, with 115kBit/sec. ECP mode, DMA 3 no DMA works, with 115kBit/sec. EPP mode, no DMA no DMA works, with 115kBit/sec. It is pretty clear that the IrDA port works without an DMA assigned, but crashes all the time with an DMA. In the README of the IrDA disk v1.01 it is cleary pointed out that it should work! Any hints what to try next? Thanks! Hans Juergen Rauscher Rauscher Software Technik From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 22 12:09:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA122586582; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:09:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28154; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:01:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:00:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28060; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28036; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:00:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from [209.86.133.168] ([209.86.133.168]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA07870 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:00:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:00:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19980322115938.34770e3c@pop.pipeline.com> X-Sender: olderman@pop.pipeline.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bob Bashford Subject: Cleaning my screen (sez IBM) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Soemwhere on the IBM site, I found a reference to using half drugstore alcohol and half water with a lintless cloth ... seemed to get more off my screen than most things have ... BTW, I drove 52,000+ miles in five and a half months during the summer of 1996 with my 701CS stuffed behind the seat of a Toyota MR2 (resting on a rolled up foam exercise pad) ... lots of nasty country roads combined with Interstates ... never a bit of problem with the hard disk or anything else ... added another 30,000 miles since then resting on the seat of a Plymouth van ... not even a pixel missing to date ... (wish I could be as positive about the parallel Zip drive I'm wrestling with) ... Regards, Bob ... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 22 12:32:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA131127970; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:32:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29418; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:31:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:31:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29334; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:31:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29322; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:31:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA12878 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:25:16 -0500 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms02.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.194]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA31830 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:28:03 -0500 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU002 id 5040200013105580; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:32:52 -0500 From: D04NMS17/04/M/IBM To: Subject: William Stevenson/Raleigh/IBM is out of the office. Message-Id: <5040200013105580000002L002*@MHS> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:32:52 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am out of the office from 03/20/98, returning 04/06/98. You will receive only this notification of my absence prior to my return, at which time I will respond. I will be checking email and will respond as soon as possible From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 22 12:46:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA136928763; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:46:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29970; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:43:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:43:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29886; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:43:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.teleport.com (mail1.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29874; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:43:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pdx02-pm2-26.teleport.com (pdx02-pm2-26.teleport.com [204.202.160.58]) by mail1.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA24645 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:43:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:43:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803221743.JAA24645@mail1.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bryan Daum Subject: AC adaptors - 701 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello all. I 'm looking for a second adaptor for my 701. Does anyone have one they'd part with or a good link for them besides IBM? I recall an earlier discussion that many will fit and work fine. BTW in my search for 701 batteries the lowest price came in right at $100 with IBM' price at $130-ish. Bryan 701C -and still delighted From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 22 13:17:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA148690643; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:17:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01598; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:16:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:15:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01521; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:15:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from voicenet.com (mail11.voicenet.com [207.103.0.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01509; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:15:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803221815.NAA01509@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: (qmail 5085 invoked from network); 22 Mar 1998 18:15:18 -0000 Received: from phila117-pri.voicenet.com (207.103.31.117) by mail11.voicenet.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 1998 18:15:18 -0000 From: "Stuart Bogom" To: "Bryan Daum" , "Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 22 Mar 98 13:13:45 +0500 Reply-To: "Stuart Bogom" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: AC adaptors - 701 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:43:15 -0800 (PST), Bryan Daum wrote: >Hello all. > >I 'm looking for a second adaptor for my 701. Does anyone have one they'd >part with or a good link for them besides IBM? > >I recall an earlier discussion that many will fit and work fine. > >BTW in my search for 701 batteries the lowest price came in right at $100 >with IBM' price at $130-ish. > >Bryan >701C -and still delighted > > Try www.1800batteries.com for batteries and adapters... Stuart Bogom From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 22 17:07:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA237924431; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:07:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06915; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:04:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06816; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:04:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from carouge.DMI.USherb.CA (carouge.DMI.USherb.CA [132.210.40.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06792; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from roselin.DMI.USherb.CA (root@roselin.DMI.USherb.CA [132.210.40.40]) by carouge.DMI.USherb.CA (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04321 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:03:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from colombia.world.our (E3-0124.Residence.usherb.ca [206.167.181.64]) by roselin.DMI.USherb.CA (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA19417 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:03:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <000401bd55de$8fff0f00$40b5a7ce@colombia.world.our> From: "Fabian Rodriguez" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: 365XD did not boot, 19 out of 20 times Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:04:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I just spent the last 2 days without my Thinkpad... I found out that the hibernation file was corrupt of something, not even = the Thinkpad splash screen would show up. After 18-19 times, it booted and I went to DOS, changed the attrib of the file and removed it. Voila! !?!??!?! Anyways, works for me, I think someone posted here a couple days ago with the same trouble. Fabian Rodriguez - ICQ# 1485512 - "Tomemonos un tinto, seamos amigos" ASTUS - MathInfo Universite de Sherbrooke / -=3D[ Staff J1K2R1 ]=3D- Sherbrooke, QC, Canada - http://MagicFab.home.ml.org =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Visitez le eZine branch=E9 de Sherbrooke http://j1k2r1.home.ml.org From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 22 22:42:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA073794573; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:42:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12242; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:37:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:35:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12146; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:35:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate32 (mailgate32-hme0.a001.sprintmail.com [205.137.196.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12134; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:35:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by mailgate32 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA15152; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:34:40 -0800 Received: from sdn-ts-003nypougp09.dialsprint.net(168.191.32.60) by mailfep2-hme1 via d.SPEbin-1.20,43b3b3 id Q_10.1.1.6/Q_23049_1_3515d837; Mon Mar 23 03:34:15 1998 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <000f01bd560c$8f8cd650$3c20bfa8@mother> From: "." To: , "Mark L." Subject: 770 Machine Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:33:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Anyone successfully installed Linux on these machines? Having difficulties with installation on an extended partition: 1. Primary partition - running WinNT on an NTFS segment. LILO will not recognize the NTFS partition. Tried to load LILO onto a floppy ... returned with the message, "device busy". 2. Having difficulty configuring X windows (Have 5.1 GB HD; 160 MB RAM) Planning to switch to Linux as my main environment, (and eventually my whole office) .. any suggestions/pointers will be appreciated. Would be willing to compensate anyone for his/her time if so desired - no offense meant. Address: wazulu@usa.net. P. Francis, MD., FACOG. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 22 22:52:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA077755170; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:52:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12955; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:51:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:51:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12862; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:51:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.missouri.edu (mail.missouri.edu [128.206.2.169]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12845; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from Mizzou-AS3-06.missouri.edu (Mizzou-AS3-06.missouri.edu [128.206.205.102]) by mail.missouri.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA198832 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:51:13 -0600 From: c311353@showme.missouri.edu (John Hagar) To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: AC adaptors - 701 and cheap batteries Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 03:48:48 GMT Message-Id: <3515db8d.16770193@pop.missouri.edu> References: <199803221815.NAA01509@CS.UTK.EDU> In-Reply-To: <199803221815.NAA01509@CS.UTK.EDU> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There is a company that deals in new and newer used batteries called digital house. I have ordered several batteries from them and have been very satisfied with their dervice. They'll ship 2nd USPS for 3$ if you ask, fast service, good prices, friendly people. They are at: 615-898-0108 (Tennessee) *************** ** ** *** HAGAR SENDS *** **** **** *********************************** ***** ***** **** John Hagar **** ** ** ** ** *** PAGER (573) 499-7820 (Pager) *** ***** ***** *********************************** ** ** From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 23 00:38:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA124021524; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:38:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16355; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:37:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:35:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16179; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:35:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16167; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:35:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA15843; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:32:49 -1000 Message-Id: <002101bd561d$78dc8480$0f02000a@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "John Hagar" , Subject: Re: AC adaptors - 701 and cheap batteries Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:35:19 -1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >There is a company that deals in new and newer used batteries called >digital house. I have ordered several batteries from them and have >been very satisfied with their dervice. Interesting portmenteau word ('service'+'device':-) Buying used batteries is always risky. A used L-Ion battery might work perfectly for 1, 2, or 20 recharges, then be entirely dead. I've been in touch with Digital House a couple of times; while on neither occasion did they have what I was looking for, they seemed OK to talk to. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 23 15:37:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA198625430; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:37:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24776; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:31:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:17:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23946; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:17:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23893; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:16:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA18524; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:13:42 -1000 Message-Id: <000b01bd5698$89d38380$0f02000a@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu> From: "David Ross" To: Subject: Used batteries and the 701 charger thread - a clarification Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:16:13 -1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've been asked for clarification of my warning about buying used laptop batteries. I'm not an engineer, but my understanding is that Lithium-Ion batteries have a relatively small number of charge-discharge cycles in them (300-500, depending on the battery spec), and that when they're gone, they're gone. I didn't mean this to apply to NIMH or NICAD batteries, which do have their own problems but which have a relatively large number of cycles. - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 24 12:14:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA125249658; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:14:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14153; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:06:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:59:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13554; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:59:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall.etn.com (firewall.etn.com [151.110.127.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13392; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:58:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from [151.110.166.11] by firewall.etn.com via smtpd (for CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) with SMTP; 24 Mar 1998 16:58:30 UT Received: from shiloh (root@dwiebold.aus.etn.com [151.110.40.141]) by etnsed.aus.etn.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28684 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:58:24 -0600 (CST) Received: by shiloh id m0yHX17-0009ZyC (Debian Smail-3.2.0.92 1997-Feb-9 #2); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:57:37 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <19980324105736.16438@etnsed.aus.etn.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:57:36 -0600 From: "D. W. Wieboldt" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IE4 References: <001901bd52ce$456c2da0$f132ab80@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <001901bd52ce$456c2da0$f132ab80@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu>; from David Ross on Wed, Mar 18, 1998 at 02:30:49PM -1000 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, Mar 18, 1998 at 02:30:49PM -1000, David Ross wrote: > >Many of us have learned (unfortunately) too late that IBM does not support > >I.E. 4.0 for the TP560 series. Does anyone know if that is likely to ever > >change? > > > I'm running IE4 on my TP560; have been for some time. It was flaky until I > installed a post-IE4 BIOS. (You also need fairly recent video drivers; > sometimes installing or reinstalling these *after* installing IE4 resolves > problems.) > > I *do* have some other problems (for example, inability to run in W95 safe > mode) which are possibly peripherally related to IE4, in the sense that some > of the DLL versions wanted by some of my software might not be 100% > compatible with the ones IE4 supplied. However, I believe that if someone > buys a new TP560, puts in the latest BIOS and drivers, installs IE4 (and then > perhaps reinstalls the video drivers) then IE4 will run fine on the 560. > > - David R. Micro$oft SLIME! I d/l'd IE4 and it filled up 100 megabytes left in my m$ partition. After recovering from that, now when I tell m$ to shut down the computer, it hangs and requires power removal before I can get my stinkpad back for useful work. Does anybody know if the bios / video driver re-install will fix this? TIA... davew (Tag below was random :-) -- dwiebold@etnsed.aus.etn.com . . . . . . . My other computer runs Linux! We are Microsoft. Unix is irrelevant. Openness is futile. Prepare to be assimilated. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 24 17:29:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA265988563; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:29:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05047; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:11:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:09:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04885; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from chipie.kenavo.fi (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04849; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:09:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from chipie (chipie.kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by chipie.kenavo.fi (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA01032 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:08:51 +0200 Message-Id: <199803242208.AAA01032@chipie.kenavo.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 00:08:50 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: advice about TFT monitors X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.46b Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I'm considering replacing my ageing 17" CRT monitor with a 15" TFT. This list may not be the most appropriate forum to ask for advice, but I know many of you are using TFT monitors (the ones built in your ThinkPads). I'm planning to use 1024 x 768 as the resolution, based on the (hopefully correct) assumption that a 15" TFT monitor really has a 15" displayable area (as opposed to 17" CRT typically having 15.5"-16") and also is brighter and higher quality. Which of the following characteristics should attract my attention: dot pitch, brightness, contrast ratio, refresh rate. Any opinions about the following monitors: Compaq TFT500 (or TFT450) IBM 9514 LCD Mitsubishi LCD50 Samsung SyncMaster 500 TFT ViewSonic VPA150 (or VPA145) Thanks, Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 24 19:04:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA011534279; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:04:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09790; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:01:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:58:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09606; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09590; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:58:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from TP560.usc.edu (ciscoserv-230-018.usc.edu [128.125.230.18]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id PAA21776; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:58:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803242358.PAA21776@almaak.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:57:37 -0800 To: Dominique Pivard From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: advice about TFT monitors Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199803242208.AAA01032@chipie.kenavo.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 02:08 PM 3/24/98 , Dominique Pivard wrote: >I'm planning to use 1024 x 768 as the resolution, based on the (hopefully >correct) assumption that a 15" TFT monitor really has a 15" displayable >area (as opposed to 17" CRT typically having 15.5"-16") and also is >brighter and higher quality. I think the screen size assumption is correct, but I may take you to task about brighter and higher quality. First of all, most TFT's I've seen aren't as bright as I'd like them to be. I've seen a few that claimed to be "superbright" that looked great next to a "normal" TFT, but monitor quality? Hmmm...I didn't think so. "Quality" is very much subjective and means different things to different people. I don't know how you'd define it. I'll say this much: when I look at my TP's TFT, there's no question that I can pick out each pixel--its square and chunky. Edges of every pixel are quite sharp and contrasty. Okay, it looks pretty great. But to me, there's something about a monitor that just looks better. Of course, I'm assuming a quality monitor too--a crappy, fuzzy, low-dot-pitch monitor is not what I'd use for comparison. But then again I have high standards--I use a 20" Sony Trinitron tube at 1600x1200 as my desktop's monitor. Its hard to beat that kind of picture for comparison. The pixels on a monitor can sort of "blend" together, making for a smoother picture. On a TFT, there's no question--three pixels (one for each of RBG) lined up, one of them turned on depending what color that part of the screen is supposed to be. Instead of blending the 3 colors together, it just puts some shade of each really, really close to each other to fool your eye into believing it is that color. >Which of the following characteristics should attract my attention: dot >pitch, brightness, contrast ratio, refresh rate. A poor refresh rate is the worst of all, but luckily with today's video cards and monitors, that's probably a thing of the past. A low/bad dot pitch is also bad. I've (temporarily) worked on .41 dot pitch monitors...whew, did my eyes hurt after that! FUZZY! HORRIBLE! And they were made by IBM in a school lab. If I were IBM, I'd have thought twice about giving those things away--or if I did, I'd have taken the logo off the box. It was *really* bad and didn't reflect well on their company. Brightness and Contrast are, IMO, very much an issue of personal taste. Though I will say this much: In general, brighter is better because even if you don't use it all the way "up", you can "turn it down". On the other hand, if its on its highest setting and you want it brighter, you're out of luck. But there are some monitors that are plenty bright, but the colors are all washed-out. Its pretty tough to get it right. ;-) ------- Randal J. Whittle whittle@usc.edu (213) 740-7775 Director, Electronic Commerce Program Marshall School of Business, University of Southern California (E-mail me for my PGP Public Encryption Key) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 24 19:46:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA029446785; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:46:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11604; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:44:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:43:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11504; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:43:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11490; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:43:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hetherington.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA05735; Tue, 24 Mar 98 19:43:00 EST Message-Id: <351852E2.DE66EBE@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:42:10 -0500 From: Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science, Spoken Language Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "." Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, "Mark L." Subject: Re: 770 Machine References: <000f01bd560c$8f8cd650$3c20bfa8@mother> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm running Red Hat 5.0, with a customized kernel (2.0.33) on a 770. However, we are running Win95 on the other partition and not NT. The reason for the custom kernel was to turn on APM. With Red Hat 5.0, you can use the boot floppy to boot your linux partition, even if you cannot install lilo. I have no idea if NT and lilo are compatible. As for X, we're running Xi Graphics' Accelerated X Laptop (LX), but that is far from free ($200). At the time, XFree86 didn't yet support the 770, but I think that has changed. I'm running AccelX at 1024x768x16-bit, and it is fast. --Lee Hetherington From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 24 20:09:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA039558141; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:09:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12615; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:07:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:06:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12535; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:06:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12522; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:06:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA25267; Tue, 24 Mar 98 20:04:11 EST Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 20:04:11 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803250104.AA25267@nile.gnat.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, domi@kenavo.fi Subject: Re: advice about TFT monitors Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu <> I would say, none of the above. Instead you must *look* at a screen to see if you like it, these things are highly personal, and specs are often misleading. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 24 20:25:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA046999122; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:25:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13422; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:24:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:23:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13346; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:23:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13334; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA25550; Tue, 24 Mar 98 20:21:16 EST Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 20:21:16 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803250121.AA25550@nile.gnat.com> To: domi@kenavo.fi, rwhittle@usa.net Subject: Re: advice about TFT monitors Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu << But to me, there's something about a monitor that just looks better. Of course, I'm assuming a quality monitor too--a crappy, fuzzy, low-dot-pitch monitor is not what I'd use for comparison. But then again I have high standards--I use a 20" Sony Trinitron tube at 1600x1200 as my desktop's monitor. Its hard to beat that kind of picture for comparison. >> That nicely illustrates what I mean by these things being personal. I hate all CRT's compared to a TFT. That goes for so-called high quality ones like the Sony as well. I find them fuzzy. So don't take any one else's word for such things, have a look for yourself. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 24 23:04:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA110758658; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:04:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20008; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:02:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:01:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19897; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:01:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.accessus.net (postal.accessus.net [204.248.93.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19885; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from Doc.accessus.net (way1-151.dialup.accessus.net [207.206.183.151]) by mail.accessus.net (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA12166 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:05:54 -0600 Message-Id: <002401bd57a2$f2c5a700$96bececf@Doc.accessus.net> From: "Stan Blank, Ph.D." To: Subject: Re: 701c mushy left mouse button Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:03:18 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks to all who replied. I gently pried the left mouse button off (it "jumped" off the keyboard --- I thought I had broken it at first --- fortunately it is made of sterner stuff!) and added another strip of tape over the switch. After replacing the button, it felt more responsive than before (although I still miss the click!). Anyway, since it is working fine, I don't think I'll risk an Easyserv. Stan ---------------------------------------- Stan Blank, Ph.D. Wayne City High School Wayne City, IL 62895 ---------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 24 23:26:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA120040001; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:26:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21203; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:20:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:20:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21130; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21118; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:20:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA27266; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:17:47 -1000 Message-Id: <000701bd57a5$538cd200$0f02000a@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "D. W. Wieboldt" , Subject: Re: IE4 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:20:19 -1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I wrote: >> I'm running IE4 on my TP560; have been for some time. [etc] D. W. Wieboldt inexplicably wrote: >Micro$oft SLIME! Excuse me, this is entirely uncalled for. My employer - *not* Microsoft - can be guessed from my e-address. >[problems with IE install omitted] >Does anybody know if the bios / video driver re-install will fix this? Did you read my post before flaming me? Whether or not it is the cause of the particular problem you relate, you absolutely need a recent version of your machine's BIOS to run IE4, since IE4 might otherwise interfere with APM. Re-installing video drivers (even the same ones you have, tough preferably the newest ones) is the most-recommended (on the Usenet IE group) way of resolving IE4 problems, and is said to work in a large number of instances. Incidentally, if an IE4 install filled 100 megabytes, then you were probably doing a maximal install (active desktop, etc). You should install a bare minimum of components, then add new ones as you need them, makes debugging easier. - David "I am not a slime" Ross, ross@math.hawaii.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 25 01:15:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA165896556; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:15:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24906; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:13:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24770; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:13:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24758; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from p17.hwts00.loop.net (p17.hwts00.loop.net [207.211.61.32]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id WAA08915; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:11:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803250611.WAA08915@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Dominique Pivard" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 23:12:03 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: advice about TFT monitors Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 25 Mar 98 00:08:50 +0200, Dominique Pivard wrote: >Hi, > >I'm considering replacing my ageing 17" CRT monitor with a 15" TFT. This >list may not be the most appropriate forum to ask for advice, but I know >many of you are using TFT monitors (the ones built in your ThinkPads). > Or other machines (my SPARC-based portable has a TFT LCD). >I'm planning to use 1024 x 768 as the resolution, based on the (hopefully >correct) assumption that a 15" TFT monitor really has a 15" displayable >area (as opposed to 17" CRT typically having 15.5"-16") and also is >brighter and higher quality. > That is correct. A 15 or 16" LCD is equivalent to a 17" CRT, because the actual viewing area only comes to about 15.7"-16". Plus, you have the small form factor, but more usage of device real estate. >Which of the following characteristics should attract my attention: dot >pitch, brightness, contrast ratio, refresh rate. > >Any opinions about the following monitors: > >Compaq TFT500 (or TFT450) >IBM 9514 LCD >Mitsubishi LCD50 >Samsung SyncMaster 500 TFT >ViewSonic VPA150 (or VPA145) > I have only heard of the Samsung, ViewSonic, and the IBM, but don't remember the prices. I also know that Sceptre makes one as well. One thing to make sure about is that the connector doesn't require a proprietary ISA or PCI card (I have an LCD that needs this, but it's not your everyday desktop LCD). As for contrast ratio, I believe that TFT is normally 100:1. Dot pitch is probably about .24-.31. This is about as much as I can think of at the time... -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (If you get an error, then the server is not online) Sent from my P75 Server The Operating System/2 Version is 4.00 Revision 9.030 There are 29 Processes with 97 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 3h 35m 51s 914ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 25 01:22:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA168916951; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:22:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25481; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:20:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:20:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25356; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:20:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from sh1.ro.com (sh1.ro.com [205.216.92.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25343; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:19:59 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from socrates ([206.96.182.72]) by sh1.ro.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA14080 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:19:56 -0600 Message-Id: <199803250619.AAA14080@sh1.ro.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 22:10:28 -0600 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: High CPU usage on battery X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.46a b46 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a ThinkPad 765D running OS/2 v4, fix pack 5. When I run it on battery power and the battery metter program is running, I sometimes see high CPU usage. When the system is idle, I may see more than 1/3 CPU time in use with the CPU stuck in its slowest speed. When allowed to adjust its speed, I see idle CPU usage of 8 to 10% -- more than twice the normal when plugged in. It just seems to be the battery meter program. Has anyone else seen this? -------------------------------------------------- Windows95 -- An entomologist's dream Jeff Jackowski http://xzalpha.ml.org/~jeffj OS/2 WPS (Desktop) Tips, remote i-net dialup UAH-SEDS http://uah.seds.org Future author of: "How to be Ruler of the Universe in 21 Days" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 25 01:23:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA169176990; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:23:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25553; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:20:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25429; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25399; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from p17.hwts00.loop.net (p17.hwts00.loop.net [207.211.61.32]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id WAA09826; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:18:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803250618.WAA09826@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Dominique Pivard" , "Randal Whittle" Cc: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 22:19:20 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: advice about TFT monitors Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:57:37 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: >At 02:08 PM 3/24/98 , Dominique Pivard wrote: >>I'm planning to use 1024 x 768 as the resolution, based on the (hopefully >>correct) assumption that a 15" TFT monitor really has a 15" displayable >>area (as opposed to 17" CRT typically having 15.5"-16") and also is >>brighter and higher quality. > > I think the screen size assumption is correct, but I may take you to task >about brighter and higher quality. > > First of all, most TFT's I've seen aren't as bright as I'd like them to >be. I've seen a few that claimed to be "superbright" that looked great >next to a "normal" TFT, but monitor quality? Hmmm...I didn't think so. > My SPARCbook is SUPERbright, and is maybe a little less bright than this monitor (though this one has PROBLEMS), but I think it is close to CRT quality. > "Quality" is very much subjective and means different things to different >people. I don't know how you'd define it. > True, everyone has different tastes. > I'll say this much: when I look at my TP's TFT, there's no question that >I can pick out each pixel--its square and chunky. Edges of every pixel are >quite sharp and contrasty. Okay, it looks pretty great. > Same with dual scan. The only other problem with TFT, come to think about it, is bad pixels. Mine only has 4, I think, 2 blue, and 2 yellow. > But to me, there's something about a monitor that just looks better. Of >course, I'm assuming a quality monitor too--a crappy, fuzzy, low-dot-pitch >monitor is not what I'd use for comparison. Like what I have. But then again I have high >standards--I use a 20" Sony Trinitron tube at 1600x1200 as my desktop's >monitor. Its hard to beat that kind of picture for comparison. > Lucky. > The pixels on a monitor can sort of "blend" together, making for a >smoother picture. On a TFT, there's no question--three pixels (one for >each of RBG) lined up, one of them turned on depending what color that part >of the screen is supposed to be. Instead of blending the 3 colors >together, it just puts some shade of each really, really close to each >other to fool your eye into believing it is that color. > But the quality is still very nice, and it is a lot easier on my eyes than using a CRT, even a high quality one. >>Which of the following characteristics should attract my attention: dot >>pitch, brightness, contrast ratio, refresh rate. > > A poor refresh rate is the worst of all, but luckily with today's video >cards and monitors, that's probably a thing of the past. > > A low/bad dot pitch is also bad. I've (temporarily) worked on .41 dot >pitch monitors...whew, did my eyes hurt after that! FUZZY! HORRIBLE! And >they were made by IBM in a school lab. If I were IBM, I'd have thought >twice about giving those things away--or if I did, I'd have taken the logo >off the box. It was *really* bad and didn't reflect well on their company. > Sounds like this one. My school gave it to me, it's a PS/2 CRT, and it really HURTS my eyes after just 1 hour! > Brightness and Contrast are, IMO, very much an issue of personal taste. >Though I will say this much: In general, brighter is better because even >if you don't use it all the way "up", you can "turn it down". On the other >hand, if its on its highest setting and you want it brighter, you're out of >luck. > You should also see if they have an option of trying it for 30 days, and if you don't like it, you can return it, or maybe trying it out in the store (if at all possible where you are). > But there are some monitors that are plenty bright, but the colors are all >washed-out. > > Its pretty tough to get it right. ;-) > Where one thing is ahead, another is lacking... -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my P75 Server running OS/2 Warp 4.0, Fixpack 6 There are 28 Processes with 94 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 3h 43m 47s 359ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 25 01:26:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA170567219; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:26:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26329; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:26:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:25:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26204; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26074; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:24:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from p17.hwts00.loop.net (p17.hwts00.loop.net [207.211.61.32]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id WAA10348; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:23:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803250623.WAA10348@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "D. W. Wieboldt" , "David Ross" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 22:23:49 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: IE4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:20:19 -1000, David Ross wrote: > >I wrote: >>> I'm running IE4 on my TP560; have been for some time. [etc] > >D. W. Wieboldt inexplicably wrote: > >>Micro$oft SLIME! > >Excuse me, this is entirely uncalled for. My employer - *not* Microsoft - >can be guessed from my e-address. > >>[problems with IE install omitted] >>Does anybody know if the bios / video driver re-install will fix this? > > >Did you read my post before flaming me? Whether or not it is the cause of >the particular problem you relate, you absolutely need a recent version of >your machine's BIOS to run IE4, since IE4 might otherwise interfere with APM. >Re-installing video drivers (even the same ones you have, tough preferably >the newest ones) is the most-recommended (on the Usenet IE group) way of >resolving IE4 problems, and is said to work in a large number of instances. > >Incidentally, if an IE4 install filled 100 megabytes, then you were probably >doing a maximal install (active desktop, etc). You should install a bare >minimum of components, then add new ones as you need them, makes debugging >easier. While we're on this topic, has anyone compared Communicator vs. IE 4.0 on a mobile machine? Since I'm closer to getting my SPARCbook up, I found that both IE 4.0 and Communicator are supported for Solaris. Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask (being a browser question, and that I never use MS stuff anyways). -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my P75 Server running OS/2 Warp 4.0, Fixpack 6 There are 28 Processes with 94 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 3h 48m 14s 710ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 25 01:28:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA171227330; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:28:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26616; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:27:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:26:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26418; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:26:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26388; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:26:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from p17.hwts00.loop.net (p17.hwts00.loop.net [207.211.61.32]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id WAA10660; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:26:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803250626.WAA10660@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "jeffj@ro.com" Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 22:26:33 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: High CPU usage on battery Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 24 Mar 98 22:10:28 -0600, jeffj@ro.com wrote: >I have a ThinkPad 765D running OS/2 v4, fix pack 5. When I run it on >battery power and the battery metter program is running, I sometimes see >high CPU usage. When the system is idle, I may see more than 1/3 CPU time >in use with the CPU stuck in its slowest speed. When allowed to adjust its >speed, I see idle CPU usage of 8 to 10% -- more than twice the normal when >plugged in. > >It just seems to be the battery meter program. Has anyone else seen this? > Have you tried Warp 6? I don't know if it will give you the same font trouble I had (but as shown in my sig, works on this machine fine), but it changes the APM applet, and adds 1.2 compatiblity, so that might help. Also, if you'd like, I can send you an OS/2 VIO program that shows running processes, because there could be a runaway process that's eating your CPU time. Also, when you talked about adjusting the CPU's speed, is this in the BIOS? -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my P75 Server running OS/2 Warp 4.0, Fixpack 6 There are 28 Processes with 94 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 3h 50m 58s 703ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 25 02:32:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA199271163; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:32:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28929; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:32:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:31:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28843; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:31:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from sh1.ro.com (sh1.ro.com [205.216.92.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28831; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:31:15 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from socrates ([206.96.182.72]) by sh1.ro.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA21935 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:31:13 -0600 Message-Id: <199803250731.BAA21935@sh1.ro.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 01:23:59 -0600 To: "ThinkPad List" In-Reply-To: <199803250626.WAA10660@stevie.loop.com> Subject: Re: High CPU usage on battery X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.46a b46 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "Paul Khoury" said the following on the auspicious date of 98-03-24: >On Tue, 24 Mar 98 22:10:28 -0600, jeffj@ro.com wrote: >>I have a ThinkPad 765D running OS/2 v4, fix pack 5. When I run it on >>battery power and the battery metter program is running, I sometimes see >>high CPU usage. When the system is idle, I may see more than 1/3 CPU time >>in use with the CPU stuck in its slowest speed. When allowed to adjust its >>speed, I see idle CPU usage of 8 to 10% -- more than twice the normal when >>plugged in. >> >>It just seems to be the battery meter program. Has anyone else seen this? >> >Have you tried Warp 6? I don't know if it will give you the same font >trouble I had (but as shown in my sig, works on this machine fine), but >it changes the APM applet, and adds 1.2 compatiblity, so that might help. I've been hesitant to install fixpack 6 because of the amount of traffic on news groups regarding problems related to it. I was thinking I might wait for the next fixpack. I'm still using fixpack 4 on my desktop (works great, so I won't mess with it just yet). >Also, if you'd like, I can send you an OS/2 VIO program that shows >running processes, because there could be a runaway process that's eating >your CPU time. I do have such a program, and just got Process Commander in the mail today. I don't think there was a runaway process, with the exception of the battery meter. >Also, when you talked about adjusting the CPU's speed, is this in the >BIOS? I made the adjustment from the command line ps2 program. -------------------------------------------------- Windows95 -- An entomologist's dream Jeff Jackowski http://xzalpha.ml.org/~jeffj OS/2 WPS (Desktop) Tips, remote i-net dialup UAH-SEDS http://uah.seds.org Future author of: "How to be Ruler of the Universe in 21 Days" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 25 04:25:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA244337911; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:25:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03228; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:24:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:23:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03086; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:23:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03074; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:23:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA28467; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:20:31 -1000 Message-Id: <005201bd57cf$9ed751c0$0f02000a@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Dominique Pivard" , Subject: Re: advice about TFT monitors Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:23:05 -1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >I'm considering replacing my ageing 17" CRT monitor with a 15" TFT. TFT is generally much easier on the eyes for long periods, which is why I do most of my text processing on laptops nowadays. However, CRTs are still head and shoulders above even the best TFT monitors for accurate color work. Also, remember that you can't change dot pitch on an LCD screen. For example, many games want standard VGA resolution. On a CRT, you can set the resolution to 640x480 and fill the whole screen with your image. On the TFT screen, this image will either appear in a tiny box in the center, or be expanded to something chunky and ugly. - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 25 10:03:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA076778205; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:03:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18713; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:59:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:56:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18502; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:56:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.epix.net (mx.epix.net [199.224.64.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18488; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:56:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mohotta (tmbg-115ppp35.epix.net [199.224.115.35]) by mx.epix.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/1998022401/Philippe Levan) with SMTP id JAA29805 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:56:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803251456.JAA29805@mx.epix.net> From: "Julian Thomas" Reply-To: jt@epix.net Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:53:17 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755CE: updating from warp3 4w to w connect X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.47 b47 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a thinkpad 755CE (16 meg; 540 meg) that I'm about to work over. It currently has a boot mgr setup, with warp 3 FOR windows on HPFS or dos as C; FAT D with all the win 3.1 stuff, and HPFS e. I intend to blow away the dos partition, and the win 3.1 on D along with a lot of the win applications. I will then format C:, maybe leave a maint partition [I've never done one of them before] and install Warp Connect >from CDROM. I have partition magic and a backpack PP CDROM, so this should not be a big hassle. But there are aspects of my desktop that I would like to preserve without having to reinstall a bunch of stuff - is there a way to do this? [I have Unimaint, but its portable desktop backup/restore didn't work for me between W3 connect and W4]. Does OD Pro have something useful here? I am also arming myself with all sorts of updated MWave and other drivers >from the pc.ibm.com web site, and following the words of wisdom on the warped thinkpad page (now at www.tpwarper.com although the old url - www.warpedthinkpad.simplenet.com - resolves to the same IP address). Any additional words of wisdom from the list? -- Julian & Mary Jane Thomas jt@epix.net http://www.epix.net/~jt In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! -------------------------------------------------- Aha! A coffeemaker that fits in a 5.25-inch slot! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 26 00:34:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA160920482; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:34:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24561; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:32:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:30:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24457; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:30:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24445; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:30:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25928 invoked by uid 66); 26 Mar 1998 05:29:42 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 21:49 CET From: hm@seneca.muc.de (Harald Milz) Subject: Re: 770 Machine To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Organization: Linux.DE X-Pgp-Signed: Id=0x7ADC4839; access-type=Finger; Address=hm@muc.de; X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-No-Archive: yes Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Lee Hetherington (ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu) wrote: > I'm running Red Hat 5.0, with a customized kernel (2.0.33) on a 770. > However, we are running Win95 on the other partition and not NT. The > reason for the custom kernel was to turn on APM. As a no-longer-newbie user (i.e. after some weeks) you want to configure and install your custom kernel anyway. Hey, on a 770 this shouldn't take longer than 10 minutes. > With Red Hat 5.0, you can use the boot floppy to boot your linux > partition, even if you cannot install lilo. I have no idea if NT and You can do that with the Linux kernel in general. Just dd it to a floppy and boot off it. No miracle, and no invention by RH. Not to blame their considerable achievements, though. > lilo are compatible. Look on sunsite for all HOWTOs containing "NT". There are some, mainly /pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader and /pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/unmaintained/mini/Linux+WinNT. Haven't tried it, no NT user. *shudder* > As for X, we're running Xi Graphics' Accelerated X Laptop (LX), but that > is far from free ($200). At the time, XFree86 didn't yet support the > 770, but I think that has changed. It has. Get XFree86 3.3.2. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 26 00:47:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA166051254; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:47:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25204; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:45:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:44:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25116; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:44:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25099; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:44:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from p06.hwts10.loop.net (p06.hwts10.loop.net [207.211.62.81]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA13433; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:44:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803260544.VAA13433@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "jeffj@ro.com" , "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 08:14:31 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: High CPU usage on battery Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 25 Mar 98 01:23:59 -0600, jeffj@ro.com wrote: >"Paul Khoury" said the following on the auspicious date >of 98-03-24: > >>On Tue, 24 Mar 98 22:10:28 -0600, jeffj@ro.com wrote: > >>>I have a ThinkPad 765D running OS/2 v4, fix pack 5. When I run it on >>>battery power and the battery metter program is running, I sometimes see >>>high CPU usage. When the system is idle, I may see more than 1/3 CPU time >>>in use with the CPU stuck in its slowest speed. When allowed to adjust its >>>speed, I see idle CPU usage of 8 to 10% -- more than twice the normal when >>>plugged in. >>> >>>It just seems to be the battery meter program. Has anyone else seen this? >>> >>Have you tried Warp 6? I don't know if it will give you the same font >>trouble I had (but as shown in my sig, works on this machine fine), but >>it changes the APM applet, and adds 1.2 compatiblity, so that might help. > >I've been hesitant to install fixpack 6 because of the amount of traffic >on news groups regarding problems related to it. I only wish I found out about that, too. It works great on my P75server, but on the ThinkPad in particular, it messes up the fonts. I was fortunate to be able to backout. One thing though - with my 701 (or others that support this), it gave battery life to the hour and minute, like the BIOS (Fn-F2), as well as the percent, and I think they improved the APM (it's now up to APM 1.2 I think). I was thinking I might >wait for the next fixpack. I'm still using fixpack 4 on my desktop (works >great, so I won't mess with it just yet). > You should try FP5, which fixes potential Y2K problems. It's the least I would put on, and I have no problems whatsoever. >>Also, if you'd like, I can send you an OS/2 VIO program that shows >>running processes, because there could be a runaway process that's eating >>your CPU time. > >I do have such a program, and just got Process Commander in the mail >today. I don't think there was a runaway process, with the exception of >the battery meter. > >>Also, when you talked about adjusting the CPU's speed, is this in the >>BIOS? > >I made the adjustment from the command line ps2 program. > Oh. Good luck. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my P75 Server running OS/2 Warp 4.0, Fixpack 6 There are 28 Processes with 93 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 13h 39m 0s 968ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 26 02:17:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA205966676; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 02:17:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28399; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 02:14:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 02:12:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28271; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 02:12:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28259; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 02:12:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA05211; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:11:10 -1000 Message-Id: <003501bd5886$b62ce760$0f02000a@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Fw: advice about TFT monitors Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:13:42 -1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >I play all sorts of games in expanded mode and find it perfectly fine. SUre >text in any small font size would be a problem, but very few games output >small text. Try it for yourself before you consider this to be a factor. We've gone around on this before; I still think it is a problem one has to think about before committing to LCD. BTW, is there any way run W95 in expanded mode on late-model Thinkpads? My son has many windows-only games that insist on running in a 640x480 window, whatever the screen's true resolution; this means that they are pretty small when we play on the road on my laptop. I can't figure out how to expand, like one can for DOS games. >Note incidentally that the next step up to 1280 x 1000, will allow pixel >doubling for 640 x 480 games. This will be an improvement to look forward to. - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 26 02:42:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA216738136; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 02:42:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29579; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 02:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 02:39:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29489; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 02:39:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29477; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 02:39:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from p02.hwts14.loop.net (p02.hwts14.loop.net [207.211.62.197]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA28058; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:39:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803260739.XAA28058@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "David Ross" Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 23:39:34 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Fw: advice about TFT monitors Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:13:42 -1000, David Ross wrote: > >>Note incidentally that the next step up to 1280 x 1000, will allow pixel >>doubling for 640 x 480 games. > > >This will be an improvement to look forward to. And have LCDs and video cards that can support this and still be somewhat affordable. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS running OS/2 Warp 4.0, Fixpack 5 There are 25 Processes with 90 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 15h 14m 35s 140ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 26 09:26:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA069182369; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:26:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17739; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:18:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:15:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17425; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (root@amber.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.111.100]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17412; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:15:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from sinai.ccs.neu.edu (dnb@sinai.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.113.201]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA02549 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:16:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dnb@localhost) by sinai.ccs.neu.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) id JAA16188; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:16:40 -0500 (EST) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP560 + NT4 + 3C562D + suspend From: dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) Date: 26 Mar 1998 09:16:39 -0500 Message-Id: Lines: 19 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.3/Emacs 19.34 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Howdy- After doing a bunch of web and dejanews searching, I suspect the answer to this question will be "live with it." Just in case I'm wrong, does anyone know the solution to this: TP560 running NT4 & IBM's drivers, 3com LAN+33.36 pc card Problem: after suspend, I can't talk to the modem side of this card (net works fine). Attempts to access it get Error: 692 and some complaints (unable to perform disconnect operation) in the logs. Reboot and everything is better. Anything I can do to deal with this situation? Should I bother to call 3com or IBM? Thanks. Peace, dNb From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 26 11:59:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA132621594; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:59:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24938; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:55:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:53:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24820; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (cen208.cas.Honeywell.COM [129.239.181.208]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24797; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:53:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0yIFwf-00013AC; Thu, 26 Mar 98 09:56 MST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 09:56 MST From: jones@pyrrhusoft.com (David Jones) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: B301 versus IB-701? (batteries) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone have any information either pro or con about these NiMH batteries for the 701? They are both around $90 (cheapest street price). The former is made by XTEND Micro Products and the latter by Battery Technology. Thanks, David Jones From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 26 12:16:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA140002567; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:16:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26472; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:12:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:12:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26394; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.teleport.com (mail1.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26230; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:10:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from pdx06-pm2-09.teleport.com (pdx06-pm2-09.teleport.com [204.202.160.169]) by mail1.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29818 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:12:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:12:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803261712.JAA29818@mail1.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bryan Daum Subject: 701 Batteries and etc. Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu John Hagar ["Hagar Sends"] wins in the cheapest battery source info search. [And David Ross's endorsement is appreciated] I checked with Digital House and found 701NiMH (with "case" apparently?) batteries for $70. Note that they are used but tested and guaranteed strong so I'm going to try them. Best new price was $100 from Insight. Other sources came in around $120 -$130 for new. They didn't have any ac adaptors but said they may get me one soon. They have parts for many TPs at reasonable prices apparently... BTW They are at: 615-898-0108 (Tennessee) Bryan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 26 18:48:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA020356113; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:48:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15216; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:40:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15031; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:40:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net (denmark-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15019; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:40:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from wonwiije (1Cust235.tnt1.sumter.sc.da.uu.net [208.254.84.235]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA17266 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:42:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <001101bd5910$aac18540$eb54fed0@wonwiije> From: "The Hildreths" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: how do i subscribe Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:40:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01BD58E6.B6D24D80" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BD58E6.B6D24D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, one more time, how do i subscribe? bh ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BD58E6.B6D24D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BD58E6.B6D24D80-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 27 00:43:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA143827396; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:43:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27496; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:31:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27394; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:31:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall.etn.com (firewall.etn.com [151.110.127.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27381; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:31:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from [151.110.166.11] by firewall.etn.com via smtpd (for CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) with SMTP; 27 Mar 1998 05:34:42 UT Received: from shiloh (root@v0-10-152.bridgewater.dialup.ans.net [152.189.50.152]) by etnsed.aus.etn.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA04820; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:34:37 -0600 (CST) Received: by shiloh id m0yIRjJ-0009ZtC (Debian Smail-3.2.0.92 1997-Feb-9 #2); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:31:01 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <19980326233101.51007@etnsed.aus.etn.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:31:01 -0600 From: "D. W. Wieboldt" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu Subject: Re: IE4 References: <000701bd57a5$538cd200$0f02000a@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <000701bd57a5$538cd200$0f02000a@sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu>; from David Ross on Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 06:20:19PM -1000 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 06:20:19PM -1000, David Ross wrote: > > I wrote: > >> I'm running IE4 on my TP560; have been for some time. [etc] > > D. W. Wieboldt inexplicably wrote: > > >Micro$oft SLIME! > > Excuse me, this is entirely uncalled for. My employer - *not* Microsoft - > can be guessed from my e-address. > > >[problems with IE install omitted] > >Does anybody know if the bios / video driver re-install will fix this? > > > Did you read my post before flaming me? Whether or not it is the cause of > the particular problem you relate, you absolutely need a recent version of > your machine's BIOS to run IE4, since IE4 might otherwise interfere with APM. > Re-installing video drivers (even the same ones you have, tough preferably > the newest ones) is the most-recommended (on the Usenet IE group) way of > resolving IE4 problems, and is said to work in a large number of instances. > > Incidentally, if an IE4 install filled 100 megabytes, then you were probably > doing a maximal install (active desktop, etc). You should install a bare > minimum of components, then add new ones as you need them, makes debugging > easier. > > - David "I am not a slime" Ross, ross@math.hawaii.edu Thanks David, and I apologise. You have mis-interpreted me! I agree, you are not a slime, and I am sorry if you thought I was referring to you. Please accept my public apology! I was referring to the micro$oft product, IE4. For that matter, we could extend the comment to darned near every m$ product that I have had the misfortune of dealing with. In spite of the fact that you thought I was flaming you, you have provided some helpful suggestions. A mark of a true netizen, I would say. Thanks for your suggestions re. bios and video drivers and the appropriate way to install m$ stuff. I have done the bios and will work on the video one of these days when I feel compelled to run windoze again. Ciao! davew -- dwiebold@etnsed.aus.etn.com . . . . . . This stinkpad is running Linux! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 27 03:45:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA221368355; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:45:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02830; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:42:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:40:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02657; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:40:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from sh1.ro.com (sh1.ro.com [205.216.92.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02645; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:40:17 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from socrates ([206.96.182.72]) by sh1.ro.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA06608 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 02:43:23 -0600 Message-Id: <199803270843.CAA06608@sh1.ro.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 98 02:36:06 -0600 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: [765D] Loss of power when unpluged with fully charged battery X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.46a b46 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sometimes, not all the time, when I unplug my ThinkPad 765D from AC, either disconecting the power adapter from the ThinkPad, or the adpter >from its AC connection, my ThinkPad loses power even though a fully charged battery is installed. It has happend once when the system was running, and another time when it was in suspend mode. Has anyone had this trouble? Is it an acknowledged problem? -------------------------------------------------- Windows95 -- An entomologist's dream Jeff Jackowski http://xzalpha.ml.org/~jeffj OS/2 WPS (Desktop) Tips, remote i-net dialup UAH-SEDS http://uah.seds.org Future author of: "How to be Ruler of the Universe in 21 Days" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 27 05:24:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA260654282; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:24:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08728; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:20:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:19:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08141; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:18:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from UPIMSSMTPUSR01 (smtp.email.msn.com [207.68.143.137]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08001; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:18:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ixswykpv - 193.149.66.205 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 02:21:17 -0800 Message-Id: <001e01bd596a$15ccf140$b5e901c0@ixswykpv> From: "LPLarsen" <71420666@email.msn.com> To: "IBM Thinkpad List" Subject: TP310 Floppy Cable Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:21:02 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Greetings. Does anyone know where I can order a replacement floppy cable for the TP310ED? I have tried all the IBM parts pages that I've bookmarked over the years and also contacted a few IBM vendors to no avail. Since it is a current model (and no part number is listed on the TP310 page in IBM's web site nor in the user's manual), I find it frustrating and hard to believe how difficult it appears to get. Any suggestions would be gratefully received. Best regards, Larry Larsen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 27 08:24:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA030425059; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:24:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16589; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:19:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:18:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16488; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:18:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu (spectra.Opt-Sci.Arizona.EDU [150.135.52.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16476; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:18:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from d765 (cx-p.Opt-Sci.Arizona.EDU [150.135.52.53]) by spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id GAA10495; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 06:20:40 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980327061926.01e7b6f0@spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu> X-Sender: stu@spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 06:19:26 To: From: "Stuart F. Biggar" Subject: Re: [765D] Loss of power when unpluged with fully charged battery Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199803270843.CAA06608@sh1.ro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 02:36 AM 3/27/98 -0600, you wrote: >Sometimes, not all the time, when I unplug my ThinkPad 765D from AC, >either disconecting the power adapter from the ThinkPad, or the adpter >from its AC connection, my ThinkPad loses power even though a fully >charged battery is installed. It has happend once when the system was >running, and another time when it was in suspend mode. > >Has anyone had this trouble? Is it an acknowledged problem? > >-------------------------------------------------- >Windows95 -- An entomologist's dream > >Jeff Jackowski http://xzalpha.ml.org/~jeffj > OS/2 WPS (Desktop) Tips, remote i-net dialup >UAH-SEDS http://uah.seds.org >Future author of: > "How to be Ruler of the Universe in 21 Days" > > > > I have not had your problem but have noticed something which is probably due to the same (unknown to me) cause. I have installed the "battery check" utility that is listed on the 765D ThinkPad page. A few times it has complained that there is no battery installed when I boot in a Dock II or with an adapter plugged it. That utility obviously thinks that the battery isn't in so I suspect that there is a connection problem somewhere in the 765D. I have usually shutdown, pulled out the battery, reinserted it, closed the keyboard, and then it (ususally) boots OK without the warning. This is under NT4 (SP3) or Warp 4 with FP1 and current BIOS and drivers from the IBM site. Stuart Stuart F. Biggar Optical Sciences Center, University of Arizona PO Box 210094, Tucson AZ 85721-0094 Stuart.Biggar@opt-sci.arizona.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 27 10:43:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA087123417; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:43:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25201; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:38:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:37:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25105; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:37:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25086; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:37:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay1.server.ibm.com (relay1.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.98]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA24546; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:34:34 -0500 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d03lms02.boulder.ibm.com [9.99.80.12]) by relay1.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA75344; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:38:42 -0500 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D03AU002 id 5030200027236074; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:47:06 -0500 From: Drew Gazey To: <71420666@email.msn.com> Cc: Subject: Re: TP310 Floppy Cable Message-Id: <5030200027236074000002L042*@MHS> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:47:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --------------------Begin Quote------------------------- Does anyone know where I can order a replacement floppy cable for the TP310ED? I have tried all the IBM parts pages that I've bookmarked o= ver the years and also contacted a few IBM vendors to no avail. Since it = is a current model (and no part number is listed on the TP310 page in IBM's = web site nor in the user's manual), I find it frustrating and hard to belie= ve how difficult it appears to get. Any suggestions would be gratefully received. -----------------------End Quote--------------------------- This part can be ordered from Parts at 1-800-388-7080 part number (FRU) =3D 12J0521 Part description =3D Diskette Drive FPC Cable Drew = From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 27 12:20:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA130239209; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:20:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00463; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:13:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00365; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:13:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.1.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00348; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:13:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.3.194]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14118 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:17:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.40); 27 Mar 98 18:17:00 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.40); 27 Mar 98 18:16:37 +0200 Received: from babylon5.stelarcom.de.0.168.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA (132.187.248.161) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.40); 27 Mar 98 18:16:36 +0200 From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Fri, 27 Mar 98 18:17:03 -0100 Reply-To: "Alexander Wagner" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Internal Modem US-ThinkPad 760 Message-Id: <6B61997481@stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello! Has anybody here ever tried to connect a US-Thinkpad to the telephone-line in germany? Are there any problems known about? Can I do that without problems? (I think of voltage etc.) Background: German version of TP doesn't have a jack for the phone-line one has to use the DAA. My US-TP can't use a DAA cause it has a jack. Now I'd like to know if I can use a normal phone-cable and connect. -- CU/2 (( Proud to be member of Team OS/2 Europe #294 Alexander Wagner )) RTV Franken Team OS/2 Franken (( Request PGP-key Subject: Request for PGP-Keys --------------------------------------------------------------------------- You may also reply to A.Wagner@BigFoot.COM or A.Wagner@BigFoot.DE From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 27 15:15:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA207529708; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:15:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09378; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:08:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:05:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09130; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:05:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09118; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:05:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA18508; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:03:09 -0500 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d03lms02.boulder.ibm.com [9.99.80.12]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA26126; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:05:46 -0500 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D03AU002 id 5030200027249454; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:15:40 -0500 From: Drew Gazey To: <71420666@email.msn.com> Cc: Subject: Re: TP310 Floppy Cable Message-Id: <5030200027249454000002L042*@MHS> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:15:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --------------------Begin Quote------------------------- Does anyone know where I can order a replacement floppy cable for the TP310ED? I have tried all the IBM parts pages that I've bookmarked o= ver the years and also contacted a few IBM vendors to no avail. Since it = is a current model (and no part number is listed on the TP310 page in IBM's = web site nor in the user's manual), I find it frustrating and hard to belie= ve how difficult it appears to get. Any suggestions would be gratefully received. -----------------------End Quote--------------------------- This part can be ordered from Parts at 1-800-388-7080 part number (FRU) =3D 12J0521 Part description =3D Diskette Drive FPC Cable - Addendum - the extranal FDD cable part number is 11J8629 and can be ordered at the above number - sorry for the confusion ...= Drew #include = From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Mar 27 16:12:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA232963126; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:12:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11532; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:59:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:59:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11451; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:59:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from swissonline.ch (www-sol2.swissonline.ch [195.24.64.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11433; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:58:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from swissonline.ch (PPPa42-Stamford2-2R544.saturn.bbn.com [4.5.48.101]) by swissonline.ch (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA16724 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:58:25 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <351C13C2.E11CEB6B@swissonline.ch> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:01:54 -0500 From: Jose Ignacio Herrero X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Interested in spare HD for the Thinkpad 760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is anybody interested in selling an spare Thinkpad 760 HD? Please let me know. Thanks From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 28 09:05:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA250423952; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:05:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10722; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 08:54:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 28 Mar 1998 08:52:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10581; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 08:52:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (cen218.cas.Honeywell.COM [129.239.181.218]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10561; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 08:52:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0yIwCd-00012sC; Sat, 28 Mar 98 07:03 MST Message-Id: Date: Sat, 28 Mar 98 07:03 MST From: jones@pyrrhusoft.com (David Jones) To: A.Wagner@TeamOS2.de Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Internal Modem US-ThinkPad 760 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Based on my experiences with a 701, you should have no problem connecting a US TP to the German phone system; the standard (RJ11) modular jacks are used. Be aware though that, like other places, you might run into digital phone systems (in hotels). Obviously, trying to connect to one of these is not a good thing. Regards, David Jones From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 28 09:26:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA258255170; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:26:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11451; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:15:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:14:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11364; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:14:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11349; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA04973; Sat, 28 Mar 98 09:22:39 EST Date: Sat, 28 Mar 98 09:22:39 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9803281422.AA04973@nile.gnat.com> To: A.Wagner@teamos2.de, jones@pyrrhusoft.com Subject: Re: Internal Modem US-ThinkPad 760 Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu would such a connection be legal? I was under the impression that the European Telco's restricted what could be plugged in? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 28 10:23:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA280238599; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:23:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12991; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:10:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12870; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from box.hacom.nl (root@box.hacom.nl [193.67.233.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12857; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:10:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from dyn118-amf.hacom.nl (dyn118-amf.hacom.nl [193.67.233.118]) by box.hacom.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA13242 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:24:31 +0100 Message-Id: <199803281524.QAA13242@box.hacom.nl> From: "Arjen Meijer" To: "thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Fri, 27 Mar 98 20:40:54 -0200 Reply-To: "Arjen Meijer" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 760 telephone line in Germany Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anybody here ever tried to connect a US-Thinkpad to the telephone-line in germany? Are there any problems known about? Can I do that without problems? (I think of voltage etc.) Just select Germany in mwave country selection and everything should run fine. Germany using 230 Volts. Arjen (from The Netherlands) Wie als Meijer geboren is, wordt nooit een kwartje. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Mar 28 12:21:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA029215688; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:21:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15078; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:04:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14822; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.epix.net (mx.epix.net [199.224.64.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14810; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mohotta (tmbg-115ppp77.epix.net [199.224.115.77]) by mx.epix.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/1998022401/Philippe Levan) with SMTP id MAA24539 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:16:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803281716.MAA24539@mx.epix.net> From: "Julian Thomas" Reply-To: jt@epix.net Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:12:39 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 755CE: Hibernation file question X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.47 b47 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is there a problem with the hibernation file if I reconfigure my machine to all HPFS? At present, there's a boot manager setup with one bootable FAT partition and an additional fat partition. -- Julian & Mary Jane Thomas jt@epix.net http://www.epix.net/~jt In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! -------------------------------------------------- Windows: 50 million flies can't be wrong! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 29 00:33:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA032159630; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:33:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29768; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:19:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:15:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29528; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:15:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29516; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:15:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from laptop (slip129-37-239-232.co.us.ibm.net [129.37.239.232]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA166626 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 05:29:08 GMT Message-Id: <000201bd5adb$d4cec420$e8ef2581@laptop> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: FS: TV Tuner for Thinkpad 75x $80 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:28:00 -0800 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Cleaning house and thought this might be of interest . . . TV Tuner Ultrabay Module -- $80 -Model #66G3689 -Works in 750/755/360/355 TFT Models -Only works in 640x480 (VGA) active-matrix (TFT) machines -Interchangeable with Floppy/CD-ROM -Allows watching TV or Videos on your ThinkPad screen For info of this tuner refer to: http://www.can.ibm.com/helpware/750thk02.html These guys want $386 for it: http://www.auburn.edu/its/duc/as/desktop/prices/ibm/options.html Box has been opened to be sure it works, but otherwise in new condition. Price includes Priority Mail shipping and COD charges to US addresses. Save $5 if you prefer to prepay. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 29 00:50:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA038890611; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:50:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00597; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:35:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:33:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00463; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:33:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00375; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:32:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from 2071598249.bellatlantic.net (2071598249.bellatlantic.net [207.159.82.49]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id AAA15118 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:46:03 -0500 (EST) From: sirgwynz@bellatlantic.net (Sir Gwynz) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Win95b on 365XD possible? Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 08:45:59 GMT Message-Id: <351db627.14589878@core.iconnet.net> References: <350B0CEC.636F@cyberway.com.sg> In-Reply-To: <350B0CEC.636F@cyberway.com.sg> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm not sure what version of Win'95 came with my 365XD but I reformatted it and installed my copy of Win'95 before knowing there were 2 different versions available. What I had was Win'95a, but now I'm trying to install Win'95b but for some reason I cannot get the laptop to boot if I reformat the HD to FAT32. It boots normally when I go back to FAT16, so is there some obscure step I'm missing or it is it just incompatible with FAT32? Here's the steps I took: =46DISK c: to FAT32 format c: /s no errors reported, system files transferred, 4096 clusters, but recieve an I9990302 error code upon reboot. Reboots normally with a boot disk, can access HD normally, it just won't boot off it! So I repeat the process, except I go back to using FAT16 no errors, I get 16k clusters reported, and it boots fine now! Any ideas? Thanks for any help! sirgwynz@bellatlantic.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 29 05:25:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA147907100; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 05:25:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA07637; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 05:10:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 29 Mar 1998 05:06:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA07401; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 05:06:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.1.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA07389; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 05:06:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.3.194]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03932 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 12:20:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.40); 29 Mar 98 12:20:29 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.40); 29 Mar 98 12:20:11 +0200 Received: from babylon5.stelarcom.de.0.168.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA (132.187.248.137) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.40); 29 Mar 98 12:20:09 +0200 From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Sun, 29 Mar 98 11:49:39 -0100 Reply-To: "Alexander Wagner" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Warp 4 on TP 760XD Message-Id: <9471E86990@stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello! Anybody ever expierienced the following: - Warp 4 works fine. But if I boot up a fullscreen commandline (ALT-F1 -> F2) the screen get's crippled. I've two cursors and the lines are displayed twice. Fullscreen Session works fine if I boot up PM-Mode. (Than of course the TP-drivers are loaded.) So far one would suggest: Problem in OS/2-VGA-devices. The strange thing is: That works all fine, if I boot up from the istall disks. I checkt with Warp 3 and Warp 4. Any hints? - Cause I've no external cover for the diskdrive I'd like to use the hotswap in the Ultrabay. If I specify /A:0 /FORCE:1 /U:0 /F:1.44MB to IBM1FLPY and /A:1 /U:0 /ATAPI /FORCE to IBM1S506 as said in the docs I've to reinstall my system cause the whole filesystem on the HDD crashes. On can't repair it as far as I tried. (OS/2 boots up with about 20 SYS-Errors reading CONFIG.SYS). Any hints about that? And then a short silly question: What's the diffrence between Hibernation and RediSafe-Suspend? Both suspend to disk, RediSafe is faster, both switch off power completely as far as I see. So what's the diffrence? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 29 11:53:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA293360385; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:53:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20425; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:37:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:33:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20219; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:33:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from slipgate.keysolutions.com (kenyee.xensei.com [204.96.52.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20207; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:33:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by slipgate.keysolutions.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565D6.005C4A1D ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:48:02 -0500 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: KEY ENTERPRISE SOLUTIONS From: "Ken K. Yee" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Message-Id: <852565D6.005C306A.00@slipgate.keysolutions.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:47:58 -0500 Subject: Anyone put a 2D/3D video card in a DockII or DockIII? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm just wondering if this disables the on-board video of the thinkpad properly. Gotta have a real game card and I'm hoping the new TP600 works w/ the docks :-) ken From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 29 13:22:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA033545767; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:22:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22683; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:06:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:03:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22477; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:03:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from cedar.netten.net (root@cedar.netten.net [205.244.191.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22463; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:02:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from dedra2 (net2-88.netten.net [206.229.193.88]) by cedar.netten.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA12753 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 12:37:43 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980329121101.00822210@netten.net> X-Sender: shelby@netten.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 12:11:01 -0600 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Larose Wynne Subject: "Sir Gwynz query" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, thinking that I might eventually have a similar problem with my ThinkPad, I sent a friend a copy of Sir Gwynz' note. This is the reply I received. If it does not help with his problem, just delete. AT LEAST 3 problems here...(1) He did not rewrite the "boot sector" on his disk..all he did was reformat FOR the sectors, and (2) He probably did not go into his CMOS and turn on "32 bit access", and (3) He did not rewrite AND convert the sectors to 4K sectors. Important to know how the OEM 4.00.950b disk works. All of the items I listed are required to "reformat" AND convert to FAT32. He should have waited until he could get his hands on the actual Advance copy of Windows 98 with the actual FAT32 converstion utility...it does all of these things automatically. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 29 14:08:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA055148522; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:08:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24082; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:52:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:50:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23904; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:50:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23890; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:50:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from p15.hwts06.loop.net (p15.hwts06.loop.net [207.211.61.210]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA07818; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 10:59:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pkhoury@loop.com) Message-Id: <199803291859.KAA07818@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "jt@epix.net" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 29 Mar 98 10:57:50 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP 755CE: Hibernation file question Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:12:39 -0500, Julian Thomas wrote: >Is there a problem with the hibernation file if I reconfigure my machine >to all HPFS? At present, there's a boot manager setup with one bootable >FAT partition and an additional fat partition. > I have the same thing, and eventually will do what you're doing. While thinking about it, I ran across Timothy Sipples' Warped ThinkPad page, http://www.secant.com/sipple (or sipples), and it has a REXX script for creating the 701's hibernation file on HPFS, and I think a while back on the list, someone also tried converting it to NTFS. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS running OS/2 Warp 4.0, Fixpack 5 There are 23 Processes with 88 Threads. This machine's uptime is 1d 21h 19m 20s 46ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 29 14:46:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA071210775; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:46:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25283; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:30:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:27:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25127; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.inreach.com (mail.inreach.com [209.142.0.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25115; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:27:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from jerryray (209-142-2-77.stk.inreach.net [209.142.2.77]) by mail.inreach.com (8.8.8/8.8.6/(InReach)) with ESMTP id LAA13812 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:38:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803291938.LAA13812@mail.inreach.com> Reply-To: From: "Janice Ray" To: Subject: looking for IBM thinkpad parts Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:38:19 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am looking for parts for IBM thinkpad 500 model 2603 17N Parts needed external floppy drive and cable, also can windows 95 run properly on this machine. Janice djmusic@inreach.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 29 15:13:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA082432394; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:13:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26317; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:57:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:53:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26109; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:53:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw5.pacbell.net (mail-gw5.pacbell.net [206.13.28.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26097; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:53:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacbell.net (ppp-206-170-2-58.sntc01.pacbell.net [206.170.2.58]) by mail-gw5.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id MAA01349; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 12:06:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <351EA9D9.1A0DDBF2@pacbell.net> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 12:06:50 -0800 From: Richard Hamel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "Ken K. Yee" Cc: ThinkPad Mailinglist Subject: Re: Anyone put a 2D/3D video card in a DockII or DockIII? References: <852565D6.005C306A.00@slipgate.keysolutions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Unfortunately no, The internal video is not disabled when using a video card with a docking station. Your only option is to get a 3d only card (like a Monster 3D II) with a video passthrough option. Richard Ken K. Yee wrote: > I'm just wondering if this disables the on-board video of > the thinkpad properly. Gotta have a real game card and > I'm hoping the new TP600 works w/ the docks :-) > > ken From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 29 16:12:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA107845947; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 16:12:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27912; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:39:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27765; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:39:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from sh1.ro.com (sh1.ro.com [205.216.92.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27752; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:39:12 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from socrates ([206.96.182.72]) by sh1.ro.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA24336 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:53:50 -0600 Message-Id: <199803292053.OAA24336@sh1.ro.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 98 14:51:29 -0600 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9471E86990@stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de> Subject: Re: Warp 4 on TP 760XD X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.46a b46 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "Alexander Wagner" said the following on the auspicious date of 98-03-29: >Hello! >Anybody ever expierienced the following: >- Warp 4 works fine. But if I boot up a fullscreen commandline (ALT-F1 -> >F2) the screen get's crippled. I've two cursors and the lines are >displayed twice. Fullscreen Session works fine if I boot up PM-Mode. >(Than of course the TP-drivers are loaded.) So far one would suggest: >Problem in OS/2-VGA-devices. The strange thing is: That works all fine, >if I boot up from the istall disks. I checkt with Warp 3 and Warp 4. Any >hints? You mean several columns are duplicated and the whole 80 columns are not visible? I've had that problem, and don't know how to fix it. Last I checked, I don't have the problem anymore. I did before I reinstalled everything (forced to by a stupid error on my part). >- Cause I've no external cover for the diskdrive I'd like to use the >hotswap in the Ultrabay. If I specify /A:0 /FORCE:1 /U:0 /F:1.44MB to >IBM1FLPY and /A:1 /U:0 /ATAPI /FORCE to IBM1S506 as said in the docs I've >to reinstall my system cause the whole filesystem on the HDD crashes. On >can't repair it as far as I tried. (OS/2 boots up with about 20 >SYS-Errors reading CONFIG.SYS). Any hints about that? I have a 765D, but it may be similar enough. My config.sys has the following lines for the warm swapping: BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD /A:0 /FORCE:2 /U:0 /F:1.44MB /U:1 /F:1.44MB BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD /A:0 /U:1 /ATAPI /FORCE Works for me. >And then a short silly question: What's the diffrence between Hibernation >and RediSafe-Suspend? Both suspend to disk, RediSafe is faster, both >switch off power completely as far as I see. So what's the diffrence? The docs seem to say that RediSafe is a suspend mode that will become a hibernate mode if power is lost. -------------------------------------------------- Windows95 -- An entomologist's dream Jeff Jackowski http://xzalpha.ml.org/~jeffj OS/2 WPS (Desktop) Tips, remote i-net dialup UAH-SEDS http://uah.seds.org Future author of: "How to be Ruler of the Universe in 21 Days" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 29 16:12:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA107945960; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 16:12:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28803; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:56:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:54:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28666; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:53:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28654; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:53:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from 146.chicago-11.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.66.115.146]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA8558; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:08:10 +0000 From: emanuel.brown@worldnet.att.net (epbrown) To: Cc: Subject: Re: looking for IBM thinkpad parts Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:08:02 GMT Organization: http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown Reply-To: emanuel.brown@worldnet.att.net Message-Id: <352fb415.21654566@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <199803291938.LAA13812@mail.inreach.com> In-Reply-To: <199803291938.LAA13812@mail.inreach.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:38:19 -0800, you wrote: >I am looking for parts for IBM thinkpad 500 model 2603 17N >Parts needed external floppy drive and cable, also can windows 95 run >properly on this machine. What happened with Digital House? Anyway, another thing I should have mentioned on the tp-500 list is that the external floppy used with the 500 is identical to the one used for the 701, 510, and 560. The cable for the 500 is unique, but once you've got that you can find the floppy fairly easily - even from IBM. As for Windows 95, the TP 500 runs it quite nicely, with the only problem I've ever seen being that the system detects the occasional phantom left-mouse button press. Nothing too massive, because of the RAM limit, but all in all it runs 95 fine. epbrown Stop by the Portable Computing Center for reviews, editorials, and the FAQ on laptop computers. http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 30 06:50:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA177288626; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:50:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09148; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:33:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:30:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA08974; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:30:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA08938; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:29:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from WARP11 (20715998142.bellatlantic.net [207.159.98.142]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id GAA04555 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:44:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803301144.GAA04555@iconmail.bellatlantic.net> From: "Patrick Ash " To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 30 Mar 98 06:42:48 -0400 Reply-To: "Patrick Ash " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: More on Batteries Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What is the best way for one to responsibly dispose of a dead LI battery? Thanks for any help. Pat From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 30 08:20:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA212474019; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:20:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12265; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:03:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:00:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12046; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:00:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12034; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:00:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com (ottmsooc01.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.24]) by docws001.shl.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA39312 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:12:08 -0600 Received: by ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD5BB3.8F4FFEE0@ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:12:19 -0500 Message-Id: From: TROTTIER Tom To: Leonard Wesson Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: 133 Mhz?? was - RE: 701 upgrade Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:20:18 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 79 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Leonard, I just noticed the "133" speed - what board revision do you have to have to run at 133 Mhz with a 586 on the 701 Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect Ottawa Global Delivery Centre, SHL Systemhouse an MCI Company (+1 613 236-6604x5539 fax:232-5182( : ttrottier@shl.com http://www.shl.com : *50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada* ~Questions answered, answers questioned~ >---------- >From: Leonard Wesson[SMTP:pepsales@portables.com] >Sent: 1998 February 16 - Monday 22:33 >To: Siegfried Hanisch >Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Re: 701 upgrade > >Hi Siggi, > >At 04:14 PM 2/14/98 +0200, you wrote: >>Hi >> >>I know this must have been asked 100 times before on this list, but anyway: >> >>I currently have a 701CS with 360MB HDD, 486DX 75MHz, 16MB RAM (8 + 8). >>Since I like this machine, I want to upgrade it. What are the "biggest" >>- HDD > >Currently 4GB is the largest HDD. > >>- processor > >AMD 5x86/100 or 133 depending on board revision. DX4/75 to 5x86/100 >results in a 25 to 30% increase in overall speed. > >>- MB expansions > >40MB is the maximum amount of RAM for your system. > >>available for this machine, and where can I buy them? (I live in >>Vienna/Austria/Europe, but if these things can be ordered via the >Internet, a >>supplier in the US should be no problem). > >We have all of them available with special pricing for the Thinkpad List. >However, the CPU is not user installable. It is a surface mount processor >and must be installed here at PEP. > >>Thanx >> Siggi >> >> >> >> >>Greetings # Quick to judge >> Siegfried Hanisch # Quick to anger >>=====================================# Slow to understand >>siegfried.hanisch@ibm.net # Ignorance and prejudice >>ssaver@ibm.net (ScreenSaver support) # And fear >>=====================================# Walk hand in hand >>http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8925811/ # Rush - "Witch Hunt" >>PGP public key available # Team OS/2 # >> >Best Regards, > >Leonard >email: pepsales@portables.com >Portable Enhancements >The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM >800-737-7693 >714-418-0113 Tel >714-418-0117 Fax >Up to 10GB for your Notebook! >WEB: http://www.portables.com >>> Please include this entire message for reference << > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 30 10:56:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA284703411; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:56:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22035; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:31:14 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21268; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:31:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id KAA18713; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:46:57 -0500 Received: from munich.netsurf.de (laurin.munich.netsurf.de [194.64.166.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17150; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 08:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns2133.munich.netsurf.de (ns2133.munich.netsurf.de [195.180.232.133]) by munich.netsurf.de (8.8.5/8.7) with SMTP id QAA08463; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 16:01:14 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199803291401.QAA08463@munich.netsurf.de> From: "Hans Juergen Rauscher" To: "Alexander Wagner" Cc: "ThinkPad mailing list" Date: Sun, 29 Mar 98 16:01:09 +0100 Reply-To: "Hans Juergen Rauscher" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Warp 4 on TP 760XD Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi Alexander, On Sun, 29 Mar 98 11:49:39 -0100, Alexander Wagner wrote: >- Warp 4 works fine. But if I boot up a fullscreen commandline >(ALT-F1 -> F2) the screen get's crippled. I've two cursors and the >lines are displayed twice. Fullscreen Session works fine if I boot up >PM-Mode. (Than of course the TP-drivers are loaded.) So far one would >suggest: Problem in OS/2-VGA-devices. The strange thing is: That >works all fine, if I boot up from the istall disks. I checkt with >Warp 3 and Warp 4. Any hints? Checked for the 640x480 with 16 Colors and (only) 60 Hz video mode setting? AFAIR Warp's VGA driver can only use the video chip in VGA mode with the above settings. >- Cause I've no external cover for the diskdrive I'd like to use the >hotswap in the Ultrabay. If I specify /A:0 /FORCE:1 /U:0 /F:1.44MB to >IBM1FLPY and /A:1 /U:0 /ATAPI /FORCE to IBM1S506 as said in the docs >I've to reinstall my system cause the whole filesystem on the HDD >crashes. On can't repair it as far as I tried. (OS/2 boots up with >about 20 SYS-Errors reading CONFIG.SYS). Any hints about that? Do you use a 2nd HDD in your ultrabay which has at least one primary partition on it?! If yes and your Warp partition on your built in (1st) HDD is placed on a logical partition, drive letters getting change which confuses Warp because it saves drive letter name in *INI files, etc. >And then a short silly question: What's the diffrence between >Hibernation and RediSafe-Suspend? Both suspend to disk, RediSafe is >faster, both switch off power completely as far as I see. So what's >the diffrence? RTOLH (ReadTheOnLineHelp :-) >From the ThinkPad Features (Configuration) online help: RediSafe With this option, when the system enters suspend mode, the contents of the memory are also stored in the hibernation file. You can resume quickly by pressing Fn key, or opening the LCD. Even if the battery is exhausted during RediSafe mode, the tasks are restored from the hibernation file when AC power or charged battery is installed. H. J. Rauscher TeamOS/2 Germany From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 30 15:26:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA116899560; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:26:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10526; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:03:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10150; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:03:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10108; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:03:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from p20.hwts14.loop.net (p20.hwts14.loop.net [207.211.62.215]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA24371; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:12:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pkhoury@loop.com) Message-Id: <199803302012.MAA24371@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Patrick Ash " , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 30 Mar 98 12:17:43 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: More on Batteries Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 30 Mar 98 06:42:48 -0400, Patrick Ash wrote: >What is the best way for one to responsibly dispose of a dead LI >battery? Thanks for any help. > Call IBM or your local trash collection company. In some areas, it is illegal to throw away certain types of batteries. -- Paul Khoury http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS running OS/2 Warp 4.0, Fixpack 5 There are 24 Processes with 96 Threads. This machine's uptime is 2d 14h 0m 1s 601ms. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 30 15:31:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA119369882; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:31:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11397; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:14:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:11:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11039; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:11:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10877; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA27329 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:26:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:26:35 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: IBM ThinkPad 385 In-Reply-To: <199803302012.MAA24371@ritchie.loop.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello everyone, Does anyone here have the instructions on opening the IBM ThinkPad 385 to access the hard drive? Thanks. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 31 10:40:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA028078852; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:40:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06605; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:40:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:33:46 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05409; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:33:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id KAA07458; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:33:41 -0500 Received: from sh1.ro.com (sh1.ro.com [205.216.92.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02896; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:46:14 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from socrates ([206.96.182.72]) by sh1.ro.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA04246 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:03:30 -0600 Message-Id: <199803310303.VAA04246@sh1.ro.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 98 20:59:23 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: IBM ThinkPad 385 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.46a b46 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Vincent Poy said the following on the auspicious date of 98-03-30: >Hello everyone, > Does anyone here have the instructions on opening the IBM ThinkPad 385 >to access the hard drive? Thanks. IBM does on their web site. I found the online manual to the 380/385 serise when I was seeing if my brother could make use of one for what he does. I even found the URL in my sent email: http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/support/tps/uguide/380/380ugpst.html -------------------------------------------------- Windows95 -- An entomologist's dream Jeff Jackowski http://xzalpha.ml.org/~jeffj OS/2 WPS (Desktop) Tips, remote i-net dialup UAH-SEDS http://uah.seds.org Future author of: "How to be Ruler of the Universe in 21 Days" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 31 10:45:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA029769138; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:45:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07010; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:45:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:44:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06884; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:44:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06871; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:44:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from gummi.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA18682; Tue, 31 Mar 98 10:44:12 EST Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <35210F4C.813A06BA@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:44:12 -0500 From: Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: ThinkPad 600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone heard anything more about the upcoming ThinkPad 600? I've seen some press from early March, but nothing from IBM. Is it supposed to be announced on 4/15? --Lee Hetherington From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 31 13:35:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA106659313; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:35:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17017; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:34:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:29:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16731; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:29:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16717; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:28:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA04264; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:28:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:28:32 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: jeffj@ro.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IBM ThinkPad 385 In-Reply-To: <199803310303.VAA04246@sh1.ro.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 jeffj@ro.com wrote: > Vincent Poy said the following on the auspicious > date of 98-03-30: > > >Hello everyone, > > > Does anyone here have the instructions on opening the IBM ThinkPad 385 > >to access the hard drive? Thanks. > > IBM does on their web site. I found the online manual to the 380/385 > serise when I was seeing if my brother could make use of one for what he > does. I even found the URL in my sent email: > > http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/support/tps/uguide/380/380ugpst.html I looked there before but it mentions nothing of opening the computer or any parts inside besides the memory. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Mar 31 17:41:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA164154074; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:41:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01056; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:40:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:33:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00663; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00650; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:33:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11933 invoked by uid 66); 31 Mar 1998 22:31:41 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 98 21:41 CEST From: hm@seneca.muc.de (Harald Milz) Subject: Re: Anyone put a 2D/3D video card in a DockII or DockIII? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Organization: Linux.DE X-Pgp-Signed: Id=0x7ADC4839; access-type=Finger; Address=hm@muc.de; X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-No-Archive: yes Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Richard Hamel (rhamel@pacbell.net) wrote: > Unfortunately no, > > The internal video is not disabled when using a video card with a > docking station. Your only option is to get a 3d only card (like a > Monster 3D II) with a video passthrough option. And the 560/600 do not work with DockII's. > > Richard > > Ken K. Yee wrote: > > > I'm just wondering if this disables the on-board video of > > the thinkpad properly. Gotta have a real game card and > > I'm hoping the new TP600 works w/ the docks :-) > > > > ken > > > > -- > What the large print giveth, the small print taketh away.