From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 1 00:41:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA24675 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:41:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25928; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:39:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25787; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:39:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (root@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.134.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25773; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:39:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gtwang@localhost (fake: stdin (HELO localhost) (ident: uid#20647@localhost)) by calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <367017-29493>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:38:53 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Sender: Gerald Wang From: Gerald Wang X-Sender: gtwang@calum To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: [TP350c] Greetings! In-Reply-To: <199809300604.XAA13301@stevie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > I can't find anything from Chips, err, Intel's site. But I know it is a > Chips & Tech. 65530 (and I have another unit that's for parts to prove > it). Yup, mine has the C&T 65530 as well. Install OSR2 and you'll get the 256-colour driver. > Hmmm, same problem, except it doesn't like my card PERIOD. I'm using > OS/2 Warp Connect. >> I don't think it's the card as my friend tried his and it behaved >> the same way too. > Same system, or also on Win95? Oops, what I meant to say was that I tried my friend's Ethernet card (a D-Link) on my Thinkpad and I ran into the same problems. This is somewhat frustrating. If I could just get the Ethernet to work then I'd be able to get rid of my second desktop system. > >Also, since I've > >reinstalled Win95 it is only recognizing the first 16MB of the installed > >RAM. I'm pretty certain that it detected the full 20MB before. > Did you upgrade to the latest BIOS? I think it's at ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/mobiles/350biosi.exe > (I was there last night for some .pdf files, and memorized the url). Thanks, I tried that but it seems like mine doesn't have a flash bios. During the upgrade procedure it kept asking me to press the "write protect" button at the back but mine doesn't have such a thing. I ended up downloading IBM's version of HIMEM.SYS and that fixed the problem. Gerald From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 1 02:19:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA25773 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 02:19:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28743; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 02:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 02:17:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28587; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 02:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-gw2adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (mail-gw2adm.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.60.102]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28574; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 02:16:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p100 (ppp-207-193-17-155.hstntx.swbell.net [207.193.17.155]) by mail-gw2adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA17652 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 01:16:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <36131E42.667F@computer.org> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 01:16:42 -0500 From: David Black Reply-To: davidb@insource.com Organization: ... X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: [TPALL] TrackPoint References: <657974727.906896074@h014-s204.mcmurdo.gov> <360D878A.802CBC71@theriver.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Occasionally the tracpoint need to recalibrate itself. That's what is happening. Leave it alone and it stops in a second or two. This is described in the manual. James Mckenzie wrote: > > Does this happen all the time, or at random? If it happens without > your assistance, it might be the way you are using the device. If it > happens all the time, the internal workings of the Trackpoint might be > damaged and require replacement of the keyboard assembly by IBM's > EZ-Serv system. > > In any case, the problem is not yours alone. I had the same problem > until I learned to handle it by retraining myself on how to use the > Trackpoint device. > > James > > Peter Lund wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > When I stop moving my TrackPoint it almost always wants to continue moving > > the cursor about a 1/2 inch to the left before it settles down. I've > > adjusted the sensitivity to both extremes but that doesn't seem to make a > > difference. > > > > Anyone know what causes this or how to fix it? > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > Peter Lund > > Network Administrator -- mailto:pml@io.com > > Antarctic Support Associates -- Currently residing at McMurdo Station > > http://www.io.com/~pml/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 1 03:02:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA26137 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:02:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA29852; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:02:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:00:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA29674; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:00:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA29662; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:00:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (151.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.151]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA22818; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 02:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36132907.D8859F6@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 03:02:32 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: Stanley Chen , Thinkpad Subject: Re: Trackpoint keyboards References: <199810010135.SAA26888@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Stanley.. the keyboards i have are all used and abused.. they were removed from TP's and i hang onto them in case someone needs a keytop or trackpoint.. they are pretty system specific and i doubt any would fit your machine.. Paul Khoury wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:21:56 -0500, Stanley Chen wrote: > > >Hello Group, > > > >I realize that this is a little bit off topic, but I'm not sure where else to go with these questions. I've recently > bought an IBM PS/2 Model 9533-2BX which is kind of, but not really a desktop. IBM used their ThinkPad > technology in an attempt to create a "Green" network machine in a very small box. Anyway, I'm trying to run > down the necessary parts to make this a functional standalone unit. These would include a matching LCD > display, adapter card w/ PCMCIA slots, and a mini keyboard with a trackpoint. > > I think it might have been Bill Morrow. Regardless of who said it, I think the person said > they had several. > > I seem to remember someone on the list making reference to these keyboards some time last month. If > anyone could give me a hand with any information either about the machine or where to find parts, I'd be > very grateful. If any of you have anything, please contact me directly so we can limit the the amount of off > topic traffic. Thank you all for your patience. > > > As for the LCD, I think one of IBM's newer LCD panels might also work. > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 1 03:07:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA26216 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:07:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00763; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:06:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00579; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:06:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00566; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:06:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (151.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.151]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA23537; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:06:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36132A8C.AF5B048C@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 03:09:00 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Wanger CC: ThinkPad Mailinglist Subject: Re: Suspend/Hibernat on 760 (OS/2) References: <199809301900.VAA00548@Magrathea.stelarcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Depends upon the OS.. need more info.. Alexander Wagner wrote: > > Hi! > > Just a question: What fact can hinder my 760 to suspend or hibernate? > Sometimes it simply doesn't enter either of these modes. If I use Fuel-Object > I get "Can't enter hibernation mode", if I use Fn-F12 I get nothing at all. > The same for Fn-F4. > > I suspect this behaviour mostly if I used XFree86/2. > -- > > CU/2 (( Proud to be member of Team OS/2 Europe #294 > Alexander Wagner )) RTV Franken > Team OS/2 Franken (( Request PGP-key Subject: Request for PGP-Keys > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > You may also reply to Alexander.Wagner@gmx.de or Alexander.Wagner@gmx.net -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C (five of them)(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 1 03:19:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA26374 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:19:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA01805; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:19:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:17:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA01615; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:17:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA01603; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:17:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (151.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.151]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA24757; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:17:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36132D17.69E425F5@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 03:19:51 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Love and Jones Webmaster CC: ThinkPad List , bill@thinkpads.com Subject: Re: [TP 755ALL] Re: www.thinkpads.com References: <004201bdeb94$cddad600$3408020a@localhost.cya> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Duke.. extra space.. the newer CD's are a lot smaller than the original 755 CD.. Love and Jones Webmaster wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com > To: Love and Jones Webmaster > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Date: Tuesday, September 29, 1998 12:26 AM > Subject: Re: [TP 755ALL] Re: www.thinkpads.com > > >Duke.. > >i have HDD's (and 755 type drive shells) and memory.. > >those 4x CD's will, or should, work, but not fit well, in a 755CD.. > > When you say, "not fit well", how horrendous will it look? Not fully > closing? Could snap off? What? > > >but you know.. the deals come when the come.. > > Ain't that the truth! > > >AND, its a bit risky to buy $4k worth of 755 stuff and find i have to > >burn it to keep warm this winter.. :-) > > Are you trying to say that my TP is, er...not the in-demand machine I > thought? > :-) > > >Love and Jones Webmaster wrote: > >> > >> > On Friday, September 25, 1998 2:45 PM, peter machule TRIUMF TISOL > GROUP > >> > wrote: %While IBM will sell the 4X's for $99 it's much cheaper to buy > them > >> > from Mr %Thinkpad. (grin) %http://www.thinkpads.com/start.htm % > >> > >> But, hey...Mr. Thinkpad is a little stingy when it comes to us 755 > >> owners...got any goodies for us (tp755CD-9BE)? Hardly see > >> anything on your site? -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C (five of them)(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 1 03:25:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA26946 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02203; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:25:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:23:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02023; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:23:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02009; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (151.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.151]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA25487; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36132E8A.7790EB00@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 03:26:02 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Neil Di Meglio CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How solid are ThinkPad 560's casing ? References: <000401bdebb6$c43932a0$615db5cf@thinkpad-765d> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Neil.. the TP cases for the high end machines are not plastic, but some tougher material,.. don't ask me what, i forgot, never thinking anyone would care.. :-) but if the machine still works, then you are fortunate.. if there was damage it would most likely manifest itself right away.. Neil Di Meglio wrote: > > Hi All, > > Over the week-end the LCD back panel casing of my ThinkPad 560X received a > hit, the casing has no cracks and the LCD display shows no sign of damages, > is there something I should be worried of ! > > Thanks Neil. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C (five of them)(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 1 03:28:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA26990 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02598; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:28:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:26:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02272; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02214; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:25:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (151.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.151]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA24570; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36132CBB.59147794@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 03:18:19 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William J. Dodd" CC: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: Partition Magic 4.0--the rest of the story! References: <199809292002.UAA21807@fsp.fsp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Want me to post the readme file..?? :-) learn about the limitations.. ALSO, when buying it on the net, you must d/l 58megs in ONE HUGE file.. be sure to use something like kermit or xmodem or.. well, you know, something that'll let you continue when/if the d/l quits (like mine did) 3 or 4 times at about 40megs.. :-) William J. Dodd wrote: > > I'm sorry! I accidentally sent my previous message without adding the > following (a few of the new Partition Magic features): > > * Native Windows 95/98 and NT Executables - Now you can run > PartitionMagic without leaving Windows and take advantage of the > enhanced interface and functionality for even greater efficiency. > > * Large Drive Support - PartitionMagic 4.0 now supports hard drives > even larger than 20 GB! > > * Linux Support - Now you can create, resize and move Linux ext2 and > Linux swap partitions without losing data. > > * Expanded File System Support - Complete support for FAT16, FAT16X, > FAT32, FAT32X, NTFS, HPFS and Linux Ext2 partition types. Convert > from FAT to FAT32, FAT to NTFS, FAT to HPFS, and FAT32 to FAT without > losing data. Enjoy comprehensive support no matter what file system > you are using. > > See > > http://www.digitalriver.com/PM4Y2K > > for more info. > > (No, I _don't_ work for PowerQuest.) > > -- > ===================| > William J. Dodd |"Sometimes my brilliance astonishes even me." > wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com | Dr. Who (Tom Baker) _Invisible Enemy_ > ===================| -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C (five of them)(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 1 08:21:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA28476 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:21:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16281; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:17:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16056; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:17:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16044; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from theriver.com (a40.tc24.theriver.com [206.102.192.40]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA16702; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 05:16:48 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36137298.51C2AAEE@theriver.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 05:16:24 -0700 From: James Mckenzie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" CC: Alexander Wanger , ThinkPad Mailinglist Subject: Re: Suspend/Hibernat on 760 (OS/2) References: <199809301900.VAA00548@Magrathea.stelarcom.de> <36132A8C.AF5B048C@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: He is using OS/2. Need to know where his hibernation file is. I successfully hibernated my system with it on either a FAT or HPFS partition. I suspect the problem is "deeper" than it first appears. James Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > > Depends upon the OS.. > need more info.. > > Alexander Wagner wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > Just a question: What fact can hinder my 760 to suspend or hibernate? > > Sometimes it simply doesn't enter either of these modes. If I use Fuel-Object > > I get "Can't enter hibernation mode", if I use Fn-F12 I get nothing at all. > > The same for Fn-F4. > > > > I suspect this behaviour mostly if I used XFree86/2. > > -- > > > > CU/2 (( Proud to be member of Team OS/2 Europe #294 > > Alexander Wagner )) RTV Franken > > Team OS/2 Franken (( Request PGP-key Subject: Request for PGP-Keys > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > You may also reply to Alexander.Wagner@gmx.de or Alexander.Wagner@gmx.net > > -- > Happy Trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > bill@thinkpads.com > 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), > 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), > 701C (five of them)(6.3gig, 40meg), > 755CE(no gig, 40meg), > 750C(no gig, 4meg), > IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 1 10:00:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA29254 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:00:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22850; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:54:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22594; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:54:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fsp.fsp.com (fsp.fsp.com [157.134.205.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22353; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:51:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fsp.fsp.com (8.8.7/1.35) id NAA01130; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:51:03 GMT From: wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com (William J. Dodd) Message-Id: <199810011351.NAA01130@fsp.fsp.com> Subject: Re: Partition Magic 4.0--the rest of the story! To: penzance@icanect.net (Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:51:02 -0400 (EDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <36132CBB.59147794@icanect.net> from "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" at Oct 1, 98 03:18:19 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 03:18:19 -0400 , "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" wrote: > Want me to post the readme file..?? :-) > learn about the limitations.. That depends: Will it burst my bubble? (I was so thrilled to learn version 4.0 will work on ext2 partitions I ordered it almost immediately.) Actually, I'd really like to see the documentation for the new boot manager . . . . -- ===================| William J. Dodd |"Sometimes my brilliance astonishes even me." wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com | Dr. Who (Tom Baker) _Invisible Enemy_ ===================| From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 1 12:56:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA01493 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:56:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02343; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:52:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:49:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02099; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:49:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01917; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:48:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-4.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.4]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id MAA10670; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:40:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981001124532.006a0cc4@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 12:45:32 -0400 To: rbaron@concentric.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Flight Sim or GP on TP600? In-Reply-To: <3612CAEF.4BE2CEDD@concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 07:21 PM 9/30/98 -0500, Robert D. Baron wrote: >After lurking and looking for a while I'm about to make the plunge for >the TP600 P2 300mhz 13.3 TFT 5GB (264545U; now $4198 at PC Connection >and hopefully still dropping)....which is about at the upper end of my >budget....but the issue has arisen: can I reasonably run such games as >Flight Simulator or Grand Prix? > >Or do I need to refocus my thinking on a 770 model with much more video >power? > >I _really_ don't want the extra weight (and a 770 might be above my >budget) but this computerwill be doing double duty at home and on the >road (not at the office) so I would like the ability to divert myself >with the occasional smooth running game. Personally, if gaming is an issue, I would go with the new Dell Inspirion 7000. It posted some impressive D3D/OpenGL results with its onboard ATI Rage chipset. It garnered excellent reviews in MaximumPC, and even at 1024x768, at 15.1" TFT is a thing of beauty. If gaming is a low priority/weight a high priority, then stick with the TP600. Weight has never been an issue for me (6'4" 250lbs), but for some others, a few pounds can really put a strain on your frame. :) ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 1 17:19:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA04886 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:19:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21786; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:17:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:14:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21365; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:14:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21282; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:14:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA59908; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:11:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:11:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: Jim Michael cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Solaris on 380? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Yeshiva University MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Yes, there is neomagic support in Solaris. In fact I use the 380D myself. You have to select the video driver for the Dell Latitude Xpi CD which is almst the same chip as on the 380. Some people in my company have trouble on the 380ED, where Solaris will hang if you try to exit the windowing system to go back to the command prompt. I myself no longer use the native Solaris X server, instead I'm using Xfree86 which works pretty well and lets me get 16bit color at 800x600. Josh On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Jim Michael wrote: > > I have ordered the free Solaris CD and want to install on my 380D. Has > anyone done this, I know the Neomagic driver support was a problem with > Linux. Is it supported under Solaris? TIA. > > Cheers, > > Jim > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 1 17:20:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA04916 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:20:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22158; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:19:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:18:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21945; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:18:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21898; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA23494; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:18:12 -1000 Message-ID: <003701bded81$04dd0680$0db5ae80@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" , "Neil Di Meglio" Cc: Subject: Re: How solid are ThinkPad 560's casing ? Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:18:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >the TP cases for the high end machines are not plastic, but some tougher >material,.. Strictly speaking, it is still a plastic, but is a composite material rather than (eg) PVC, and consequently much stronger. I think that flex-related problems (e.g., broken solder joints) are a bigger worry than case breakage. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 1 18:13:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA05564 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:13:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25136; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:07:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:05:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24941; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:05:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24926; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:05:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256690.00798B08 ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:07:34 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com cc: penzance@icanect.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <86256690.0078E02B.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:06:48 -0500 Subject: Re: Partition Magic 4.0--the rest of the story! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: As much as I like Partition Magic, please don't post sizable stuff like that in this forum. www.powerquest.com and their faqs, online forum, and other more-direct methods of contact should be more than sufficient for those who are interested. Just my opinion, of course ;-) Rich wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com on 10/01/98 08:51:02 AM To: penzance@icanect.net cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (bcc: Rich Chong/SHARE Inc) Subject: Re: Partition Magic 4.0--the rest of the story! On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 03:18:19 -0400 , "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" wrote: > Want me to post the readme file..?? :-) > learn about the limitations.. That depends: Will it burst my bubble? (I was so thrilled to learn version 4.0 will work on ext2 partitions I ordered it almost immediately.) Actually, I'd really like to see the documentation for the new boot manager . . . . -- ===================| William J. Dodd |"Sometimes my brilliance astonishes even me." wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com | Dr. Who (Tom Baker) _Invisible Enemy_ ===================| From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 1 23:50:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA08670 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:50:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07128; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:45:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06823; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:45:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send1c.yahoomail.com (send1c.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06810; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:45:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980926182346.2878.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.156.155.214] by send1c; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 11:23:46 PDT Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 11:23:46 -0700 (PDT) From: H Doan Subject: Screen Quality To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I am new to this list. Just signed on. I just bought myself a ThinkPad 560E, upgraded it to 80 megs and installed windows NT. Everything seems perfect except.... the screen. The contrast is hideously low. I did quite a lot of research before I committed to buying this machine. I never realize how poor the TFT screen is. Is this typical of ALL the thinkpads?? - hng _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 00:03:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA08786 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:03:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07830; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:00:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07667; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:00:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07654; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bp ([12.70.6.122]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981002040017.DYDL19838@bp>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 04:00:17 +0000 Message-ID: <36144FDD.2586@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 00:00:29 -0400 From: BirgerPetterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rich_Chong@mail.share.org CC: wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com, penzance@icanect.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Partition Magic 4.0--the rest of the story! References: <86256690.0078E02B.00@passnotes.share.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > > Want me to post the readme file..?? :-) > > learn about the limitations.. RICH_CHONG; The above is not on their web site. What harm is there to listing the readme file. Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 02:17:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA10270 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 02:17:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11855; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 02:16:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 02:15:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11715; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 02:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11703; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 02:15:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p10.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.79]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA01344; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810020614.XAA01344@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "H Doan" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 01 Oct 98 23:14:29 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Screen Quality List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 11:23:46 -0700 (PDT), H Doan wrote: >Hello, > >I am new to this list. Just signed on. I just bought myself a ThinkPad >560E, upgraded it to 80 megs and installed windows NT. Everything >seems perfect except.... the screen. The contrast is hideously low. I >did quite a lot of research before I committed to buying this machine. >I never realize how poor the TFT screen is. Is this typical of ALL the >thinkpads?? I don't think so. With my 355C, it had a nice LCD, until it died about 1.5 months later (fortunately, I got the 701 from that mishap). Maybe you have a lemon LCD. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 02:30:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA10330 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 02:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12289; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 02:30:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 02:29:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12208; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 02:29:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12196; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 02:29:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256691.0023E78F ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 01:32:10 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net cc: wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com, penzance@icanect.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <86256691.00232644.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 01:31:29 -0500 Subject: Re: Partition Magic 4.0--the rest of the story! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: It sorta depends on the size of a readme and its direct irrelavance to thinkpads. Posting opinions or personal high/low-lights of a product is one thing, but verbatim quoting crosses that grey line... ...Just my opinion, do what you want. rich > > Want me to post the readme file..?? :-) > > learn about the limitations.. RICH_CHONG; The above is not on their web site. What harm is there to listing the readme file. Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 03:13:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA10579 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 03:13:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA13889; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 03:08:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 03:06:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA13624; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 03:06:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA13612; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 03:06:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (229.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.229]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA20065; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 03:04:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36147BBB.4D43AECD@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 03:07:39 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rich_Chong@mail.share.org CC: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net, wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Partition Magic 4.0--the rest of the story! References: <86256691.00232644.00@passnotes.share.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Rich, et al., you may be correct, it probably does cross SOME line.. i just glanced at it again, nothing but the usual caveats for strangs hardware configuerations.. all in all, it looks like a good update to a damn good utility.. (can i use "damn" here..?) if anyone wants, i'll post it on my web site and i won't soak up any more bytes or bandwidth on the list, which IS a busy place.. Rich_Chong@mail.share.org wrote: > > It sorta depends on the size of a readme and its direct irrelavance to > thinkpads. Posting opinions or personal high/low-lights of a product is one > thing, but verbatim quoting crosses that grey line... ...Just my opinion, > do what you want. > rich > > > > Want me to post the readme file..?? :-) > > > learn about the limitations.. > > RICH_CHONG; The above is not on their web site. What harm is there to > listing the readme file. > > Birger -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C (five of them)(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 09:47:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA12745 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:47:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01931; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:43:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01630; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heisenberg.lza-chicago.com (heisenberg.lza-chicago.com [209.48.106.131]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01612; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by heisenberg.lza-chicago.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:42:55 -0500 Message-ID: <795F7F3E6438D1119FD300A0C96B754F154805@heisenberg.lza-chicago.com> From: "Pantazis, Dionysios J." To: "'Victor Kress'" , Jim Michael , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Solaris on 380? Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:42:50 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: You need to look at http://access1.sun.com for the notebook specific instruction pages and list of supported drives. In general Sun has reasonably supported IBM, Toshiba's and HP laptops. There are a couple of disks to do a minimal initial installation and stripped down laptop version. Look at http://www.eis.com for pointers to resources and the x86-list. dp From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 10:37:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA13203 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04480; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:33:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04226; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:33:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigun.c-gate.net (bigun.c-gate.net [207.120.210.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04208; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:33:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from monster-nt4 (pm1wayne1-25.c-gate.net [198.79.69.158]) by bigun.c-gate.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA22300 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:24:22 -0500 From: "Eric Giles" To: Subject: Re: Screen Quality Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:32:13 -0500 Message-ID: <01bdee11$72013b60$01646464@monster-nt4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: I have used a 560e and I also found it's screen to be a bit dimmer than some of the other TFT Thinkpads that I have used, except my 701c. I have heard others make the same comment about this model. I don't conisder it hideous, but it isn't extremely bright! And no, this is not typical of all Thinkpads. My 770 has the brightest laptop screen I have yet seen, and my previous 760ED wasn't that bad either. If yours seems to dim, call IBM and see if they will have a look at it. Also, look at your Thinkpad features program and make sure that your screen brightness settings are on high. Eric Giles >Hello, > >I am new to this list. Just signed on. I just bought myself a ThinkPad >560E, upgraded it to 80 megs and installed windows NT. Everything >seems perfect except.... the screen. The contrast is hideously low. I >did quite a lot of research before I committed to buying this machine. >I never realize how poor the TFT screen is. Is this typical of ALL the >thinkpads?? > >- >hng > > > > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 10:49:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA13343 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:49:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05294; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:45:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05064; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:45:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from huygens.physics.mcgill.ca (huygens.physics.mcgill.ca [132.206.92.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05029; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:44:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from alban@localhost) by huygens.physics.mcgill.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) id KAA02578; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:44:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Alban Gerd Kellerbauer X-Sender: alban@huygens.physics.mcgill.ca To: Eric Giles Subject: Re: Screen Quality In-Reply-To: <01bdee11$72013b60$01646464@monster-nt4> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE List-Unsubscribe: There seem to be TFT displays of different levels of quality used in=20 ThinkPads. This is usually due to higher or lower contrast, which I=20 believe varies between 80:1 and 300:1. The display on my older 365XD is far superior to the display on our=20 recent 765D. Especially pale colours are not displayed well; they seem=20 almost white. The contrast on the 765D is "only" 100:1. Of course it is=20 still much nicer than an HPA display. Alban On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Eric Giles wrote: > I have used a 560e and I also found it's screen to be a bit dimmer than s= ome > of the other TFT Thinkpads that I have used, except my 701c. I have heard > others make the same comment about this model. I don't conisder it hideou= s, > but it isn't extremely bright! And no, this is not typical of all Thinkpa= ds. > My 770 has the brightest laptop screen I have yet seen, and my previous > 760ED wasn't that bad either. If yours seems to dim, call IBM and see if > they will have a look at it. Also, look at your Thinkpad features program > and make sure that your screen brightness settings are on high. >=20 > Eric Giles >=20 > >Hello, > > > >I am new to this list. Just signed on. I just bought myself a ThinkPad > >560E, upgraded it to 80 megs and installed windows NT. Everything > >seems perfect except.... the screen. The contrast is hideously low. I > >did quite a lot of research before I committed to buying this machine. > >I never realize how poor the TFT screen is. Is this typical of ALL the > >thinkpads?? > > > >- > >hng > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >DO YOU YAHOO!? > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >=20 A. Kellerbauer McGill University Nuclear Physics Montr=E9al (Qu=E9bec) UIN 8141789 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 10:54:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA13377 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:54:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05756; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:52:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:49:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05471; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:49:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05447; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:49:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (mg130-182.ricochet.net [204.179.130.182]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA15459; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 07:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003e01bdee13$ebda6630$b682b3cc@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Eric Giles" , Subject: Re: Screen Quality Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 07:49:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Also, are you aware that the default settings cause the display to appear MUCH dimmer when running on battery? Check your settings. David -----Original Message----- From: Eric Giles To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Friday, October 02, 1998 7:38 AM Subject: Re: Screen Quality >I have used a 560e and I also found it's screen to be a bit dimmer than some >of the other TFT Thinkpads that I have used, except my 701c. I have heard >others make the same comment about this model. I don't conisder it hideous, >but it isn't extremely bright! And no, this is not typical of all Thinkpads. >My 770 has the brightest laptop screen I have yet seen, and my previous >760ED wasn't that bad either. If yours seems to dim, call IBM and see if >they will have a look at it. Also, look at your Thinkpad features program >and make sure that your screen brightness settings are on high. > >Eric Giles > >>Hello, >> >>I am new to this list. Just signed on. I just bought myself a ThinkPad >>560E, upgraded it to 80 megs and installed windows NT. Everything >>seems perfect except.... the screen. The contrast is hideously low. I >>did quite a lot of research before I committed to buying this machine. >>I never realize how poor the TFT screen is. Is this typical of ALL the >>thinkpads?? >> >>- >>hng >> >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________ >>DO YOU YAHOO!? >>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >> From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 11:14:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA13614 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:14:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07242; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:13:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:10:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07030; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:10:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de [160.45.2.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07017; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:10:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from komma.fddi2.fu-berlin.de (160.45.2.6) with smtp id ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:10:41 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:10:40 +0200 (MEST) From: Christoph Eyrich X-Sender: eyrich@komma.fddi2.fu-berlin.de To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Screen Quality In-Reply-To: <003e01bdee13$ebda6630$b682b3cc@greasygirl.brightware.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, David W. Taylor wrote: > Also, are you aware that the default settings cause the display to appear > MUCH dimmer when running on battery? > > >I have used a 560e and I also found it's screen to be a bit dimmer than > some I think the TP560E's screen isn't on the bright side, definitely. A sort time ago had the TP560E next to an Omnibook 800, and the TP didn't compare very well (Before that I was thinking about ordering one ...). Regards Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 11:31:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA13813 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08460; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:31:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:29:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08297; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:29:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.ibm.net (out4.ibm.net [165.87.194.239]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08284; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:28:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm.net (slip166-72-209-4.ct.us.ibm.net [166.72.209.4]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA60434 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:28:50 GMT Message-ID: <3614F070.1AA8F599@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 11:25:37 -0400 From: Dave White Organization: Greene & White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Subject: [760EL] Linux Xwindows on a ThinkPad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: So far I haven't had much luck configuring a proper Screen Fit. I'm using Slackware v3.5. (XFree86 3.3.2) Hardware & Specs: Screen - 12.1 LCD with TFT (active matrix) Video Card - Cyber 9320 LCD Resolution: 800 x 600 (8 & 16 bpp) 56 & 60hz (+ 72 8 bpp) 640 x 480 (8 & 16 bpp) 60 & 72hz (+ 75 8 bpp) tguint compatible display adapter 1 mb memory horizontal sync? - 31.5 (not sure) vertical sync? - 50-70 (not sure) Linux SuperProbe Results: Chipset - Trident LCD9320 (PCI Probed) Memory - 1024 bytes Ramdac - Trident builtin 15/16/24 bit Dac (with 6 bit wide lookup tables (or in 6 bit mode)) Any help would be appreciated! Regards, Dave White From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 11:45:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA14045 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:45:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09174; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:41:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:39:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08990; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:39:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08978; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA10098 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:39:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:39:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Partition Magic 4.0--the rest of the story! In-Reply-To: <86256691.00232644.00@passnotes.share.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: If you think you're not interested in this Partition Magic thread: I tried out the system restoration CD thingy just to see what it was about. It does *not* just restore your system files. It does a complete fdisk and format of your hard drive making it one big honking C: partition again. Lame lame lame lame lame. Since the Windows install CD doesn't appear to ship with the Thinkpad in any other form (mine is refurbished so it's possible it was missing), if you want Windows on your machine with a different partitioning scheme, you *need* a utility like Partition Magic. (I was extremely pissed when it fdisk'ed over my entire Linux installation instead of being a good little program and installing on the large C: partition I'd left open. I suppose I should've listened to the warnings about "all data on the hard drive" but I never dreamed it would do it in such a stupid way...) -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 12:08:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA14294 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:08:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10476; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:01:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:58:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10286; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10263; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:58:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:58:01 -0400 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-5.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id LAA00134; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:57:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3614F7F1.BF908AA@csc.com> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 10:57:37 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "John H. Kim" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Partition Magic 4.0--the rest of the story! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: But, in all fairness to IBM, the system restoration CD is doing what it was supposed to. It is meant to restore your ThinkPad _exactly_ back to the way it was originally configured by IBM. It's not designed as a simple install disk for Windows and the other apps. I believe you can access the Windows installation cab files on the CD and use them to install if you want, but it's been a while since I've looked into this. Later, Rob ------------------------------------------------ Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob_bell@nospam@csi.com ThinkPad 770 running NT4, Win98, Win95, Linux ------------------------------------------------ John H. Kim wrote: > > If you think you're not interested in this Partition Magic > thread: > > I tried out the system restoration CD thingy just to see what > it was about. It does *not* just restore your system files. > It does a complete fdisk and format of your hard drive making > it one big honking C: partition again. Lame lame lame lame > lame. > > Since the Windows install CD doesn't appear to ship with the > Thinkpad in any other form (mine is refurbished so it's > possible it was missing), if you want Windows on your machine > with a different partitioning scheme, you *need* a utility > like Partition Magic. > > (I was extremely pissed when it fdisk'ed over my entire Linux > installation instead of being a good little program and > installing on the large C: partition I'd left open. I suppose > I should've listened to the warnings about "all data on the > hard drive" but I never dreamed it would do it in such a > stupid way...) > > -- > John H. Kim > kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 13:18:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA15043 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:18:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14107; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:16:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:12:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13917; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:12:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13879; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:12:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (171.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.171]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id NAA21512; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:11:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3615098D.808EA59@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 13:12:45 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "John H. Kim" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Partition Magic 4.0--the rest of the story! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: John.. you WERE warned... i don't know which TP you have, but mose recent ones come with the restore CD and it gives you the option of doing in the entire HDD orjust the "C:" partition.. well, at least the two restore CD's for the 770-1AU and the 770-5AU (ED)... besides, its ALL just one huge zip file and some .BAT files.. the recent CD's are also bootable.. John H. Kim wrote: > If you think you're not interested in this Partition Magic > thread: > > I tried out the system restoration CD thingy just to see what > it was about. It does *not* just restore your system files. > It does a complete fdisk and format of your hard drive making > it one big honking C: partition again. Lame lame lame lame > lame. > > Since the Windows install CD doesn't appear to ship with the > Thinkpad in any other form (mine is refurbished so it's > possible it was missing), if you want Windows on your machine > with a different partitioning scheme, you *need* a utility > like Partition Magic. > > (I was extremely pissed when it fdisk'ed over my entire Linux > installation instead of being a good little program and > installing on the large C: partition I'd left open. I suppose > I should've listened to the warnings about "all data on the > hard drive" but I never dreamed it would do it in such a > stupid way...) > > -- > John H. Kim > kim@stormhaven.org -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 13:24:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA15094 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14694; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:21:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:19:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14471; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:19:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14457; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:19:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (171.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.171]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id NAA24770 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:19:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36150B60.CCA7ECCE@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 13:20:32 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Screen Quality *14.1 inch IBM TFT display on sale* References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: SPEAKING OF SCREENS... the Computer City store in San Antonio de Behar.. well, ok, San Antonio Texas has several of the recently introduced (last 6 months?) 9514 TFT flat panel desktop monitor.. i canned them thrusday and the price was $835~ BUT, they won't do mail order.. you gotta have someone go in and buy it... look'em up in the phone book.. COMPUTER CITY.. they were just bought out by CompUSA.. this is the reason for the big sale.. wait a while (if you dare) and the price will go down.. i had ONE of these, before i got my 16 inch version asnd it was bright and nice.. the only thing i did NOT like was the bezel around the display was way to wide, IMO.. also, these are just monitors (so far) and have no built in speakers, etc. i apologise to the list if no one is interested.. :-) -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 13:37:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA15336 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:37:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15709; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:28:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15498; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mizar.usc.edu (mizar.usc.edu [128.125.253.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15478; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:28:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (krieger@localhost) by mizar.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id KAA11610 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:28:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Martin Krieger To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: FS: IBM TP 755C/755CS User Guide Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I bought it from IBM, read it through, and no longer need it. $20 including shipping. The text is not on a website. Martin krieger@usc.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 14:08:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA15821 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:08:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17776; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:05:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:02:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17580; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.ibm.net (out4.ibm.net [165.87.194.239]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17567; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:02:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm.net (slip166-72-209-4.ct.us.ibm.net [166.72.209.4]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA130750; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:02:29 GMT Message-ID: <36151473.5DE18000@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 13:59:15 -0400 From: Dave White Organization: Greene & White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pooh , Thinkpad Subject: Re: [760EL] Linux Xwindows on a ThinkPad References: <199810021635.LAA23724@apoc.cysource.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Pooh wrote: > > > > > So far I haven't had much luck configuring a proper Screen Fit. > > > > I'm using Slackware v3.5. (XFree86 3.3.2) > > well..if it's using the same chipset and TFT screen as the 560e, try this > (looks like it is, by the specs you posted) > I'm not sure if I should try it. My chipset is the 9320 & yours is the 9382. The vertical & horizontal sync rate ranges may also be different. Is there any possibility of screen damage? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 14:52:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA16310 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:52:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20413; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:50:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:47:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20170; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20153; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:46:15 -0400 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-5.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id OAA13435; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:45:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36151F7F.A579776D@csc.com> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 13:46:23 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave White CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: [760EL] Linux Xwindows on a ThinkPad References: <3614F070.1AA8F599@ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Dave, Use a search engine like www.dejanews.com (newsgroups) or www.reference.com (mail lists) to search the Internet for possible solutions. I did this when looking for the X-Windows settings for my 770 and found them very easily. Start with DejaNews. HTH, Rob --------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob_bell@nospam@csi.com --------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 15:48:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA16897 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:48:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23134; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:42:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:39:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22952; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:39:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.243]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22929; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:39:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm.net (slip129-37-126-176.ca.us.ibm.net [129.37.126.176]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA32304; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:39:30 GMT Message-ID: <36152B2E.184A9532@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 15:36:15 -0400 From: Dave White Organization: Greene & White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Bell CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: [760EL] Linux Xwindows on a ThinkPad References: <3614F070.1AA8F599@ibm.net> <36151F7F.A579776D@csc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Rob Bell wrote: > > Dave, > > Use a search engine like www.dejanews.com (newsgroups) or > www.reference.com (mail lists) to search the Internet for possible > solutions. I did this when looking for the X-Windows settings for my > 770 and found them very easily. Start with DejaNews. > Hello Rob, I've already tried dejanews, the archives for this newsgroup and some linux laptop sites. "www.reference.com didn't return any relavant hits but will be a great resource for the future. I think IBM upgraded the chipset shortly after coming out with the 760el. The newer units had a 133mhz processor and a video card with 2 mb of ram. Thanks for the info! Regards, Dave From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 16:27:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA17282 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25361; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:22:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25175; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:22:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (root@tam.dorsai.org [206.127.32.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25152; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:22:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (higgins@amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA05804 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:24:59 -0400 (EDT) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id QAA04471 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:24:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810022024.QAA04471@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: [560e] Longer FD Cable? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (thinkpad) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:24:57 -0400 (edt) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The cable that came with the external floppy on my 560e is annoyingly short. Does IBM (or anyone else) sell a longer one? For that matter, does anyone else make replacement external floppies that fit that special little port??? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins Broadcasting & Cable Magazine higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 16:28:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA17302 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:28:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25480; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:26:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:24:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25251; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.eclipse.net (root@mail.eclipse.net [207.207.192.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25238; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:24:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cnj1-06-39.eclipse.net (cnj1-06-39.eclipse.net [207.207.244.39]) by mail.eclipse.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA28736 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:24:17 -0400 (EDT) From: mdash@plexsys.com (Michael D. Scheer) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: mwave resource consumption Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 20:24:13 GMT Message-ID: <361535cc.11779610@mail.eclipse.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: Am I alone in finding the mwave modem to be a CPU hog? Modem traffic pretty much saturates the P6-266 in my TP600. Installing the 2.35a drivers made no apparent difference. Is this a software modem, like WinModem? --Mike Scheer, mdash@plexsys.com, 908-273-1885 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 17:00:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA17682 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26811; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:59:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:58:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26702; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:58:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fsp.fsp.com (fsp.fsp.com [157.134.205.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26688; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:57:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fsp.fsp.com (8.8.7/1.35) id UAA09163; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 20:58:12 GMT From: wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com (William J. Dodd) Message-Id: <199810022058.UAA09163@fsp.fsp.com> Subject: UPS C.O.D. policy change To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad Mailing List) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:58:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: Since some in this group buy and sell used equipment, I thought there might be some interest in this announcement (from http://www.ups.com/news/current.html): Important Changes to UPS C.O.D. Service As of September 28, UPS will no longer accept cash (currency) as payment for C.O.D. packages. UPS shippers have the option to request that UPS only accept a money order, cashier's check, official bank check, or similar instrument for the exact amount of the C.O.D. package. Also on September 28, a new consolidated processing system will speed the arrival of C.O.D. payments by up to three days. In August, UPS drivers began distributing printed announcements to all customers who pay cash for a C.O.D. package. Shippers may also want to inform their customers who frequently make cash payments. New C.O.D. Tags will gradually replace the ones now in use. The current C.O.D. Tags can be used until the supply is exhausted. If the "Cash Only" option is selected, UPS will only accept a money order, cashier's check, official bank check, or similar instrument. If you have any questions, please contact your local UPS Account Executive, or call 1-800-PICK-UPS. -- ===================| William J. Dodd |"Sometimes my brilliance astonishes even me." wjdodd@fsp.fsp.com | Dr. Who (Tom Baker) _Invisible Enemy_ ===================| From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 17:37:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA18043 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:37:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28726; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:33:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:31:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28602; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28586; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:31:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lou (user-38ld44u.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.144.158]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA06015 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:31:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981002140235.009e1da0@mindspring.com> X-Sender: lou1358@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 14:02:35 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Lou Subject: Extra AC/battery cord for 380ed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Any body know a good source an inexpensive battery/AC cord for a 380ED? Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 18:00:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA18280 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:00:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29688; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:59:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:56:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29549; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:56:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from prioritysolutions.com (prioritysolutions.com [206.155.246.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29537; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mycroft (host12.psnet.net [206.155.246.162]) by prioritysolutions.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id T5G7DR8H; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:58:01 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Robert W. King" To: "William J. Dodd" , "Thinkpad Mailing List" Subject: RE: UPS C.O.D. policy change Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:48:32 -0500 Message-ID: <000001bdee4e$667d7640$0101c0a8@mycroft> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <199810022058.UAA09163@fsp.fsp.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Hi ya'll! > As of September 28, UPS will no longer accept cash (currency) as payment > for C.O.D. packages. I believe this action by UPS is illegal. On the one-dollar bill Federal Reserve Note I just took out of my billfold to refresh my memory is the statement "This note is legal tender for all debts public and private." In short, any company or person doing business in the United States must accept Federal Reserve Note currency if tendered. -- Robert W. King I'm an ingenieur, NOT a bloody locomotive driver! SnailNet: 19023 TV Tower Rd, Winslow, Arkansas 72959 BellNet: 501-634-2086 InterNet: robtking@prioritysolutions.com http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/k/i/n/Robert-W-King/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 18:09:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA18379 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:09:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00377; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:08:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:06:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00224; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:06:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailer.cia-g.com (kglp@mailer.cia-g.com [207.66.82.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00206; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:06:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kglp@localhost) by mailer.cia-g.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA28620; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:06:06 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:06:06 -0600 (MDT) From: Ray Bayles To: "Robert W. King" cc: "William J. Dodd" , Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: RE: UPS C.O.D. policy change In-Reply-To: <000001bdee4e$667d7640$0101c0a8@mycroft> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Not illegal, because courts have established that businesses don't have to take cash for payments away from the point of sale... and by paying for COD... you are not giving payment to UPS for a "debt public and private" but merely utilizing their service of acting as an agent or intermediary... The courts have reviewed thousands of cases in which they have ruled that > any company or person doing business in the United States must accept > Federal Reserve Note currency if tendered. is not always the rule or the law. Ray From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 18:12:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA18396 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00732; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:09:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00407; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:09:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apoc.cysource.com (root@apoc.cysource.com [207.238.244.206]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00395; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:09:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by apoc.cysource.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA30671; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:02:47 -0500 From: Pooh Message-Id: <199810022202.RAA30671@apoc.cysource.com> Subject: Re: UPS C.O.D. policy change To: robtking@prioritysolutions.com Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:02:46 -0500 (CDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <000001bdee4e$667d7640$0101c0a8@mycroft> from "Robert W. King" at Oct 2, 98 04:48:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > > Hi ya'll! > > > As of September 28, UPS will no longer accept cash (currency) as payment > > for C.O.D. packages. > > I believe this action by UPS is illegal. On the one-dollar bill Federal > Reserve Note I just took out of my billfold to refresh my memory is the > statement "This note is legal tender for all debts public and private." In > short, any company or person doing business in the United States must accept > Federal Reserve Note currency if tendered. I HIGHLY doubt that this is illegal. If it is, it's one of those old outdated laws that are both impractical and impossible to enforce. In fact, I didn't realize that UPS even ACCEPTED cash for c.o.d orders still. No one else does. You have to have a cashiers check from a bank or a money order. That's all most places will take anymore, including FedEx and Airborne Express. Besides, it's their business, not federally owned or controlled. If they want to refuse cash for C.O.D. orders they are perfectly within their right to do so. If you don't agree with this policy, don't have anything shipped via them. Good luck finding anyone who will. It's getting so you can't hardly buy anything at all mail-order unless you have a credit card. Moreover, paper money is just that...paper... money itself is just a concept we have accepted to live with. Paper money is outdated and inefficient, and with all the e-commerce going on it makes me wonder just how much of our money actually -exists- in paper/coinage. *srednop* Anyways..this is severely off-topic anyway. If you have any comments, please just email me directly...don't bother the list. :) cat flames >/dev/null -Jeff -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jeff Schoby is: | "May U live 2 see the dawn." Programmer/Analyst | -Prince City of Columbia, MO +------+-------------------------------- ----------------------------------+ | Owner/President of: email: | | Sacred Soul Records | pooh@apoc.cysource.com | | |___________________________| | ssr@tranquility.net Home of the Apocalypse BBS | http://www.tranquility.net/~ssr finger bbs@apoc.cysource.com for info. | http://apoc.cysource.com/~bbs/index.html | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 2 20:21:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA19745 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 20:21:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04816; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 20:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 20:17:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04680; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 20:17:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04659; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 20:17:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA01795; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:16:49 -1000 Message-ID: <008f01bdee63$214fe8e0$9a1a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "John Higgins" , "thinkpad" Subject: Re: [560e] Longer FD Cable? Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:16:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >The cable that came with the external floppy on my 560e is annoyingly >short. Does IBM (or anyone else) sell a longer one? Too long might be dangerous. There's a fairly short upper limit on the IDE signal specification, and while the current floppy cable is I think rather below this limit, it is exposed to things like EM radiation to which a corresponding desktop cable (being in a Farady cage) is immune. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 00:22:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA21948 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:22:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10994; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:17:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10792; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:17:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from grayfox.svs.com (grayfox.SVS.COM [198.4.241.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10772; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:17:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nexus.eighthwave.com (nexus.svs.com [198.4.241.149]) by grayfox.svs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA28461 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 23:17:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: by NEXUS with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) id ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 23:07:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3188837C091AD211B1190000C08F3B546ECF@NEXUS> From: "Gerald C. Delsescaux" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: New TP600 -- hard disk noise (& other issues) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 23:06:59 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) List-Unsubscribe: If anyone could give me some feedback, it would be appreciated.... I have a new TP 600 with a 4gb drive which randomly makes a light "tonk" sound. Sometimes it doesn't happen, other times it randomly occurs every 10 to 30 seconds (in this case, under DOS -- can't remember under Win98, which was cleanly installed per IBM's web instructions). It's not disk swapping (e.g., normal read/write sound) and it's not an evil sounding grinding or whining (e.g., disk crash)... just a clean little middle-toned sound like "plonk" or "tonk." A mechanical movement perhaps? Is this normal? Is the drive recalibrating or resetting? Do the new drives just sound like this, or is there something I can do to prevent or decrease it? (It does get irritating after awhile). The drive seems fine (no errors reported in any fashion), but I feel like I'm having bad luck in general with this Thinkpad: ** the COM1 serial port would not function out of the box (took two phone calls & over three hours to convince IBM tech support that it really didn't work). The laptop is currently being serviced in Memphis (but they told me to pull the drive -- they weren't interested in looking at it??) ** the keyboard will sometimes beep when typing very quickly (with no other system activity) -- this also happened with a floor model I played with. Is this a normal keyboard buffer overrun? (If someone says yes, I'll feel better ) No real problem... just worrisome if there's not an explainable reason. * I'm experiencing the "boot to IBM logo screen, beep twice, reboot to IBM logo screen, then continue booting normally" problem described in the IBM website ThinkPad forums. IBM tech support had no ideas. Is the laptop rebooting whenever BIOS is updated or system status changes? (Note: no PCMCIA cards installed, no docking station, a clean Win98 install per IBM's website instructions, extra 32 mb installed, updated to BIOS 103) In short, can someone cheer me up by saying these are all just normal, "cosmetic" issues and that I didn't end up with a lemon? I realize that *all* electronic devices can suffer from "infant mortality" problems -- it's the nature of the beast, but I'm really growing to hate this ThinkPad -- bad first impressisons. (OK, OK, I'm overreacting.) I really want to like this thing, and maybe some kind words and similar experiences would help. Any feedback would be appreciated! Many thanks, Jerry jd@eighthwave.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 00:33:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA22037 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:33:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11457; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:32:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:30:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11334; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from torgo.punk.net (torgo.punk.net [207.114.150.54]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11321; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:30:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sparker@localhost) by torgo.punk.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA07198; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 21:37:05 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 21:37:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: "Gerald C. Delsescaux" cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: New TP600 -- hard disk noise (& other issues) In-Reply-To: <3188837C091AD211B1190000C08F3B546ECF@NEXUS> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Gerald C. Delsescaux wrote: > ** the keyboard will sometimes beep when typing very quickly (with no other > system activity) -- this also happened with a floor model I played with. Is > this a normal keyboard buffer overrun? (If someone says yes, I'll feel > better ) No real problem... just worrisome if there's not an explainable > reason. I can't comment on the rest since I don't have a TP600, but if it is any consolation my TP560 does that too. I think it is a "Feature" of some sort. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 00:54:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA22208 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12050; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:53:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:51:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11933; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:51:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.its.rpi.edu (root@mail1.its.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11899; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:49:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from liw (resnet-807.dynamic.rpi.edu [128.113.179.93]) by mail1.its.rpi.edu (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id AAA70732 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:50:10 -0400 From: "Chewie" To: Subject: [ThinkPad 600] Video Problem Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:49:04 -0400 Message-ID: <000001bdee89$25ed97a0$5db37180@liw.dynamic.rpi.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: To ThinkPad 600 Users: Hi! I seem to have a problem with the graphics on my ThinkPad 600 (Model #2645-41U) with a Pentium II 233MHz. If Active Desktop is turned on in Windows 95 and even Windows 98, the icons on the desktop are gradually replaced by horizontal lines of different colors, blotchy dots of differnt colors on icons or even an icon turn black. Clicking "Refresh" (Right click on Windows Desktop) does not seem to correct the problem. I am running at a resolution of (1024x768, 16-bit). The video chipset is NeoMagic 128XD. If I turn off Active Desktop, the problem goes away, but lines of different colors can randomly go onto the desktop messing it up (Especially scrolling with Netscape, or with any other window that has a scroll bar). Same thing holds true with some applications such as Maple V. The colors aren't right. This problem did not occur until I upgraded my BIOS to version 1.03 (8/21/98 - IBET32WW) in preparation of upgrading my machine to Windows 98. Before upgrading my BIOS, I had the latest video drivers (4.10.01.0007-Q6.14.00). Graphics were normal using the latest drivers and older BIOS (v. 1.00). After upgrading the BIOS, I noticed that this problem occurred. (Still had Windows 95 at that time). So I did an experiment. I reformated my HD and used my recovery CD (Win 95) that came with my ThinkPad. The video driver that was preinstalled by the CD was dated back to 12-31-97 (v. 6.10). When installation was complete, there was no problem with the graphics whatsoever. Even with Active Desktop enabled, it was fine! But when I updated the video driver to v6.14, the problem was back. I even upgraded to Windows 98 (followed instructions on IBM web page) and used the old drivers (v. 6.10). No problems with the graphics, but Windows was highly unstable (crashed lots). When I updated the video driver to v. 6.14 as instructed with the IBM upgrade Win 98 guide, the icons and desktop were messed up again but Windows was stable. No matter how many times I re-installed the latest video drivers, the icons and desktop look messed up. This problem doesn't occur with the older video driver but Windows 98 is unstable without using the latest video drivers. I also screen captured my desktop. If you go to: http://www.rpi.edu/~liw/desktopa.gif (With Active Desktop Enabled) http://www.rpi.edu/~liw/desktop.gif (With Active Desktop Disabled) you will see that the picture with Active Desktop enabled has icons that are messed up. Is there a bug in the video driver (v. 6.14) or is this a hardware problem? Would like to know if this problem exists on other ThinkPad 600 machines. Many thanks, WCL mmx233@techie.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 01:33:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA22562 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:33:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13029; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:27:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:24:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12875; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12863; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:24:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ppp-223-051.usc.edu [128.125.223.51]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id WAA25216; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 22:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810030521.WAA25216@almaak.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 21:48:33 -0700 To: "Gerald C. Delsescaux" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: New TP600 -- hard disk noise (& other issues) In-Reply-To: <3188837C091AD211B1190000C08F3B546ECF@NEXUS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:06 PM 10/2/98 -0500, you wrote: > >If anyone could give me some feedback, it would be appreciated.... I have a >new TP 600 with a 4gb drive which randomly makes a light "tonk" sound. YES!! Me too! Except mine is the 3.1 GB. >It's not disk swapping (e.g., normal read/write sound) and it's not an evil >sounding grinding or whining (e.g., disk crash)... just a clean little >middle-toned sound like "plonk" or "tonk." A mechanical movement perhaps? I disagree--its more than a little worrisome. It sounds a *lot* like the nasty noise my 560's HD made before it completely crashed (after the machine had been dropped on the floor). That's why I worry... ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 01:39:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA22615 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:39:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13462; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:38:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:36:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13349; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send1d.yahoomail.com (send1d.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.48]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13332; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19981003053623.17900.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.156.155.214] by send1d; Fri, 02 Oct 1998 22:36:23 PDT Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 22:36:23 -0700 (PDT) From: H Doan Subject: $1.00 Thinkpad Floppy @ onsale.com To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: I sprung for one of those $1.00 IBM laptop floppies at Onsale.com. For $1.00, I took the risk of getting a "backup" secondary floppy just in case my original dies. Well, I got it today and I'll just tell everyone to avoid it. Its and internal floppy and I don't think it will even fit in my 560E's external floppy. I think its for older Thinkpads. Well for $1.00, I couldn't go wrong. HD _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 02:10:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA22951 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:10:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14241; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:09:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:07:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14116; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:07:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14095; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:07:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from S2-134-07.binghamton.edu (bing43.net107.binghamton.edu [128.226.107.43]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA29830; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810030603.CAA29830@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-travaganza: http://free-music.com/ken Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 02:03:49 -0400 To: "Gerald C. Delsescaux" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Ken Subject: New TP600 issues seem common In-Reply-To: <3188837C091AD211B1190000C08F3B546ECF@NEXUS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:06 PM 10/2/98 -0500, Gerald C. Delsescaux wrote: >I have a new TP 600 ... >** the keyboard will sometimes beep when typing very quickly (with no other >system activity) -- this also happened with a floor model I played with. Is >this a normal keyboard buffer overrun? (If someone says yes, I'll feel On my TP 770ED, this keyboard overrun is everpresent, and often annoying. It seems that there are certain combinations of keys (at least 3 at the same time) that cause the overrun, which generates the beep and also seems to lose one of the 3. I guess we're just supposed to type slower. Annoying, but apparently normal. >* I'm experiencing the "boot to IBM logo screen, beep twice, reboot to IBM >logo screen, then continue booting normally" problem described in the IBM This was also discussed on this list; I think the consensus was (and my own experience confirms this) that it does this whenever you change a system setting, and then reboot. Annoying, but apparently normal. >it's the nature of the beast, but I'm really growing to hate this ThinkPad I like to blame Windows 95, BUT, of course, IBM >did< ship the machine with Windows 95 on it, so they obviously deserve blame. Good luck, Ken - kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 02:15:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA22985 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:15:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14539; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:15:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:13:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14420; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:13:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14408; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:13:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p19.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.88]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA20680 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 23:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810030611.XAA20680@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 02 Oct 98 23:11:46 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP750 List-Unsubscribe: I got my ThinkPad 750, and am shipping out 2 of my other TPads tomorrow. The keyboard is the best I've used, but do these too have a high failure rate? It's a wonderful machine, and fast for a SL-33. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 02:23:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA23029 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:23:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14990; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:22:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:19:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14760; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:19:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14748; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:19:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p19.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.88]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA20844; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 23:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810030617.XAA20844@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Pooh" , "robtking@prioritysolutions.com" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 02 Oct 98 23:17:29 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: UPS C.O.D. policy change List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:02:46 -0500 (CDT), Pooh wrote: >> >> Hi ya'll! >> >> > As of September 28, UPS will no longer accept cash (currency) as payment >> > for C.O.D. packages. >> >> I believe this action by UPS is illegal. On the one-dollar bill Federal >> Reserve Note I just took out of my billfold to refresh my memory is the >> statement "This note is legal tender for all debts public and private." In >> short, any company or person doing business in the United States must accept >> Federal Reserve Note currency if tendered. > >I HIGHLY doubt that this is illegal. If it is, it's one of those old >outdated laws that are both impractical and impossible to enforce. In fact, >I didn't realize that UPS even ACCEPTED cash for c.o.d orders still. No one >else does. You have to have a cashiers check from a bank or a money order. >That's all most places will take anymore, including FedEx and Airborne >Express. I don't know about that. COD means Cash on Demand, and I know that USPS accepts them, and I thought that FedEx does. At least, you have to pay cash if you PICK UP a COD package. > >Besides, it's their business, not federally owned or controlled. If they >want to refuse cash for C.O.D. orders they are perfectly within their right >to do so. If you don't agree with this policy, don't have anything shipped >via them. Good luck finding anyone who will. It's getting so you can't >hardly buy anything at all mail-order unless you have a credit card. > Which is unfortunate, but fortunately, I've been able to use checks or money orders for most of my computer purchases. >Moreover, paper money is just that...paper... money itself is just a >concept we have accepted to live with. Paper money is outdated and >inefficient, and with all the e-commerce going on it makes me wonder just >how much of our money actually -exists- in paper/coinage. > Personally, I'd rather have paper currency than electronic currency, because if something goes wrong, at least you still have the paper. >*srednop* > >Anyways..this is severely off-topic anyway. If you have any comments, >please just email me directly...don't bother the list. :) > >cat flames >/dev/null > Yeah, cat thistopic > /offlist | cat flames_and_threats > /dev/null =) -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 02:23:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA23036 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:23:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15101; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:22:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:20:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14830; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:20:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14810; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:19:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p19.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.88]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA20883; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 23:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810030618.XAA20883@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "H Doan" Date: Fri, 02 Oct 98 23:18:35 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: $1.00 Thinkpad Floppy @ onsale.com List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 2 Oct 1998 22:36:23 -0700 (PDT), H Doan wrote: >I sprung for one of those $1.00 IBM laptop floppies at Onsale.com. For >$1.00, I took the risk of getting a "backup" secondary floppy just in >case my original dies. Well, I got it today and I'll just tell >everyone to avoid it. >Its and internal floppy and I don't think it will even fit in my >560E's external floppy. I think its for older Thinkpads. > >Well for $1.00, I couldn't go wrong. Such as that for a TP355/360/750/755? If so, where can I get an extra? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 02:26:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA23053 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:26:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15415; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:25:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:24:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15299; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:24:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15287; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA15968 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:24:00 -0400 Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:24:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: TP List Subject: Re: New TP600 -- hard disk noise (& other issues) In-Reply-To: <199810030521.WAA25216@almaak.usc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Randal Whittle wrote: > At 11:06 PM 10/2/98 -0500, you wrote: > > > >If anyone could give me some feedback, it would be appreciated.... I have a > >new TP 600 with a 4gb drive which randomly makes a light "tonk" sound. > > YES!! Me too! Except mine is the 3.1 GB. Are you sure it's not the heads parking? Try Fn-F3 to go into standby and force the drive to spin down and park the heads. How many "tonk" sounds? I just noticed my 560 making a faint rattling sound, as if it were moving the heads back and forth 6-8 times (the term "sabre rattling" comes to mind). But the disk access light didn't go on. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 02:52:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA23193 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA16017; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:51:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:48:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15909; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:48:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailer.cia-g.com (kglp@mailer.cia-g.com [207.66.82.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15896; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:48:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kglp@localhost) by mailer.cia-g.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA09572 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:48:43 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:48:43 -0600 (MDT) From: Ray Bayles To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Floppy Drives Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Well it is always something... Just received some great CD-ROMS from Bill Morrow's shop and now have a floppy drive that is bad... Floppy drive for 760 XL... rarely used... now seems to be seriously out of alignment... won't read floppys from other computers and those will not read floppys formatted or written >from this one... This used to be a common problem in the 80's but my first problem with an IBM or other "modern" computer So the question is, do you get them repaired or throw them away? If repaired, where? Are they exchanged or repaired? If replaced, where? Is this going to be as expensive as my wallet fears it will be. Ray From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 03:33:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA23465 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 03:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17880; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 03:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 03:27:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17730; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 03:27:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.electricv.com (ns.electricv.com [207.66.81.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17659; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 03:27:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ray@localhost) by ns.electricv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA06504 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:26:58 -0600 Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:26:58 -0600 (MDT) From: Ray To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: subscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: subscribe Ray Bayles From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 06:10:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA24368 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 06:10:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA28254; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 06:10:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 06:07:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA28144; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 06:07:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aludra.usc.edu (aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.184]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA28132; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 06:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sterni@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id DAA17838 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 03:07:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: aludra.usc.edu: sterni owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 03:07:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "John W. Sterni" To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP750 In-Reply-To: <199810030611.XAA20680@ritchie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I've had my TP750 for over four years now and the keyboard is still going strong. I put it through a fair amount of abuse, even pounded on it a few times, but it still works. I've gone through my share of Trackpoint caps though =) -john On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > I got my ThinkPad 750, and am shipping out 2 of my other TPads tomorrow. > The keyboard is the best I've used, but do these too have a high failure rate? > It's a wonderful machine, and fast for a SL-33. > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 > > ----------------------------------------------- John W. Sterni -- Mariah Carey fan Always and Forever -- plus I like Ally McBeal alot too! NASA Far West RTTC -- University of Southern California Mechanical Engineer and Computer Guru sterni@usc.edu -- http://www-scf.usc.edu/~sterni ----------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 09:43:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA25727 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:43:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01576; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:41:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01457; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:41:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01444; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:41:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256692.004B66DA ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 08:43:35 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: mmx233@techie.com cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <86256692.004AA5C5.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 08:42:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [ThinkPad 600] Video Problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: It wouldn't be the first time that newer drivers dont work well. (e.g. My newer Adaptec slimscsi drivers keep me from seeing multiple devices, so im just using the older driver for now). Other than the IBM recomendation to upgrade to the latest driver (in general, what vendor wouldnt recommend that? ;-), is there any feature the newer drivers are supposed to give you that you need? Sounds like you've done a fairly exaustive test. I recommend giving IBM support a call to find out what you should do. In general, if it hurts too much when you do something, then dont do it ;-). The term "bleeding edge" may apply here. Rich From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 09:50:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA25788 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01919; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:50:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:48:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01793; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01781; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:47:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256692.004C050E ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 08:50:20 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: mmx233@techie.com cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <86256692.004B9165.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 08:49:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [ThinkPad 600] Video Problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Oh yes, you mention with the old drivers, the graphics worked ok but the system crashes alot. That sorta points to it NOT being a graphics driver problem, but it's hard to know without more details. How does it crash? Just an application hang? or all of Win98? Does ctrl-alt-del do anything? does mouse move? does powerswitch become nonfunctional? Are you doing anything in particular? What applications are running? Anything running in the background? Is it easily reproducible? Rich From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 09:54:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA25816 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:54:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02250; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:53:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:50:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01948; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:50:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01933; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:50:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256692.004C3D4E ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 08:52:44 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: mmx233@techie.com cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <86256692.004C071D.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 08:52:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [ThinkPad 600] Video Problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Argghh, sorry for all these posts, i keep coming up with more ideas... Try changing the color depth to see if the problems recurr. Especially if you're running 256colors deep. The pallette is handled differently with 256. rich From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 10:14:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA25978 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:14:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02904; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:14:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:11:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02760; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:11:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02743; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:11:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256692.004E333F ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:14:09 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: kenzo@free-music.com cc: jd@eighthwave.com, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <86256692.004CC806.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:13:27 -0500 Subject: Re: New TP600 issues seem common Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: All keyboards have this problem to some extent. The beeping keyboard you describe isn't buffer overrun, it's the effects of the way the keyboard matrix is wired up. There isnt a set of wires to each key, but it's in some form of x-y matrix. The effect is known as key rollover. It's basicly happens because you're not releaseing keys fast enough and having too many down at once (also because of keyboard design). To see this, bring up a dos window (or boot up plain old dos from a floppy to prove it isnt OS dependent), and press down a few keys without releasing (quickly to avoid the typamatic feature kicking in). 2-key rollover (rare) keyboards let you type any two keys and will either ignore or give an incorrect third key depression. n-key rollover keyboards do better, but many times only guarantee at least any three keys. With a desktop pc, you could just swapout and try another keyboard, with laptops, about your only recourse, is to learn to type a little differently (more of a pecking motion without resting your fingers on the keys). Keyboards are religion to many. I miss the dual-injection molded lettering keys that can never rub off. Rich From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 10:43:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA26297 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:43:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03637; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:42:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:40:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03486; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:40:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03473; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:40:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256692.0050D8C9 ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:43:03 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: jd@eighthwave.com cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <86256692.004E437F.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:42:21 -0500 Subject: Re: New TP600 -- hard disk noise (& other issues) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Your COM1 problem may be because, Com1 and the IR port often conflict. My tp560 disables the com1 port if i do a bios reinitialize. Hard drive noise you are hearing is called thermal recalibration. It is the hard drive's bios performing a few head seeks every once in a while to recalibrate the head positioning voice-coil servo. My 4gb travelstar drive has 12,500 tracks per inch (>10times finer resolution than a 1200dpi laserjet!) and does this periodic thermal recalibration (sorry i never timed it). Thermal recal has been around a long time and varies not only between manufacturers, but between hard drive models, and also between individual drive firmware revisions! For example, the some older ones did a hard-coded timed recal, messing up AV intensive programs, the newer ones do it based on both time and disk inactivity. Now i'm not saying that you don't have a problem. Hard drives are very mechanical and sensitive. I know someone who crashed his thinkpad drive by just accidently dropping a small paperback on his running system. There are also grey areas between flawless and crashed. Post your exact system model, or even better, if you can tell us the harddrive model, we can compare noises. I just went from a 810mb (dsoa-20810) to a 4.3gb (dkla-24320 9.5mm!) drive and even though both are IBM travelstars, the operational sound characteristics are extremely different. The new one has a quieter motor but seeking actions sounds more hollow. Random recal tinkling noises wouldnt bother me, but thunking sounds (which were normal in my real old tp500 700mb travelstar) would bother me. Rich From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 12:06:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA27073 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:06:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05711; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:05:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:03:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05559; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (ftp.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05546; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:03:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter (slip-32-100-149-154.wa.us.ibm.net) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Sat, 03 Oct 1998 09:02:14 PST From: "peter machule" To: "H Doan" , Subject: Re: $1.00 Thinkpad Floppy @ onsale.com Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 08:46:58 -0000 Message-ID: <01bdeeaa$61ce4140$44956420@peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: I Bought the exact same thing ;-{ What you did not mention is that transpo was/is ~$8 . It is now a $9 paper weight (grin) ..peter >I sprung for one of those $1.00 IBM laptop floppies at Onsale.com. For >$1.00, I took the risk of getting a "backup" secondary floppy just in >case my original dies. Well, I got it today and I'll just tell >everyone to avoid it. >Its and internal floppy and I don't think it will even fit in my >560E's external floppy. I think its for older Thinkpads. > >Well for $1.00, I couldn't go wrong. > >HD > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 12:23:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA27296 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06593; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:20:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06427; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:20:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from grayfox.svs.com (grayfox.SVS.COM [198.4.241.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06414; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:20:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nexus.eighthwave.com (nexus.svs.com [198.4.241.149]) by grayfox.svs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16211 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:20:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: by NEXUS with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) id ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:21:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3188837C091AD211B1190000C08F3B546ED1@NEXUS> From: "Gerald C. Delsescaux" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: New TP600 -- hard disk noise (& other issues) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:21:30 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) List-Unsubscribe: To all those in the group, thanks for the feedback on the various issues I posted. I'm starting to feel more confident that the minor "annonyances" that I mentioned are nothing more than that (a good thing!) Just hearing others confirm the same experiences make me feel like these "issues" are not pieces of broken glass on a beach just *waiting* to cause a problem later. Rich posted some good comments on the hard disk issue, which I'll add to below. > From: Rich_Chong@mail.share.org [SMTP:Rich_Chong@mail.share.org] > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 1998 9:42 AM > To: Gerald C. Delsescaux > Subject: Re: New TP600 -- hard disk noise (& other issues) > > Your COM1 problem may be because, Com1 and the IR port often conflict. My > tp560 disables the com1 port if i do a bios reinitialize. > This was the first thing I checked... IBM tech support & I went through this several times and we pretty well wrapped up that the IR port was disabled properly and COM1 enabled. Win95 Device Manager confirmed this. (I even checked the settings by booting DOS and confirming everything with the PS2 utility.) But thanks for the advice on BIOS disabling COM1 -- I think I saw that myself. > Hard drive noise you are hearing is called thermal recalibration. It is > the > hard drive's bios performing a few head seeks every once in a while to > recalibrate the head positioning voice-coil servo. > This is what I am suspecting, so it's good to hear some feedback that confirms (or at least supports) the idea. > Now i'm not saying that you don't have a problem. Hard drives are very > mechanical and sensitive. > Ack! You're NOT supposed to say that! > Post your exact system model, > or even better, if you can tell us the harddrive model, we can compare > noises. Random recal tinkling noises > wouldnt bother me, but thunking sounds (which were normal in my real old > tp500 700mb travelstar) would bother me. > > Rich > The ThinkPad (600) is a 2645-51U, dated 08/98 on the case, I believe. The drive was the standard one that IBM includes: a 4gig Hitachi model DK227A-41 (Cyl 7944 Heads 16, Sec 63). Something I forgot (which someone else on the mailist asked) is how repetitive are the sounds. The drive will always "tonk" just once at a time (never a multiple burst or grouping) and might sound off again within several (5 to 10 seconds) or wait for minutes. I seemed to notice it the most while doing some of the COM1 testing under regular old DOS. Perhaps all power management was off and this was a contributing factor? Thanks again to everyone for all the feedback. The Memphis repair center said it should be back here Monday, so I can comment more then. Wish me luck! Jerry From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 12:25:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA27329 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:25:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06900; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:25:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:23:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06616; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:23:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06604; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:23:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dts_jl ([12.77.31.230]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981003162228.FMWS13514@dts_jl>; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:22:28 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981003121058.00b068c0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 12:10:58 -0400 To: Ray Bayles , ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Floppy Drives In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:48 AM 10/3/98 -0600, you wrote: >So the question is, do you get them repaired or throw them away? >If repaired, where? Are they exchanged or repaired? > >If replaced, where? > >Is this going to be as expensive as my wallet fears it will be. > It shouldn't cost you anything. The TP760XL has a 3-year warranty which by my calendar should still be in effect, so in the US, all you need to do is call EZ-Serv at 800.772.2227, tell them your serial number and problem, and follow their instructions. It's possible that you will have to send the whole machine in, but they may just ship you a replacement floppy and have you send the broken one back to them. If you don't send the broken one back, they WILL bill you for the replacement. If they tell you to ship the whole system in, they'll have FedEx bring you a really weird box (not the sling box anymore) to ship it in, and they pay the shipping both ways. DO NOT send anything to them that is not part of the problem - ie, remove extra memory, battery, PC Cards, hard drive, CD-ROM. You might not get them all back or they may come back not working. This is not at all to say that they will be stolen, but things get misplaced and/or broken in repair and shipping. Just eliminate that possibility by keeping them home safe. Hope this helps! Jane From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 12:36:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA27478 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07436; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:35:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:33:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07267; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:33:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (ftp.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07254; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter (slip-32-100-149-154.wa.us.ibm.net) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Sat, 03 Oct 1998 09:32:33 PST From: "peter machule" To: Subject: 760XL from www.cdw.com $1400 Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:27:45 -0000 Message-ID: <01bdeeb0$1440fca0$44956420@peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: CDW SPECIAL PURCHASE: IBM THINKPAD 760XL The IBM ThinkPad 760XL comes with a 166MHz Intel Pentium(R) processor with MMX technology, a 12.1-inch active-matrix display, 2.1GB hard drive and 16MB RAM. 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JUST $1,397.56 http://www.cdw.com/be/default.asp?edc=129132 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 13:49:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA28195 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 13:49:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09326; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 13:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 13:47:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09186; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 13:47:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from deliverator.sgi.com (deliverator.sgi.com [204.94.214.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09173; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 13:46:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from odin.corp.sgi.com (fddi-odin.corp.sgi.com [198.29.75.194]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via SMTP id KAA24506; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:45:16 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (rick@aw.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.sgi.com by odin.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/951211.SGI) id KAA07568; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:46:54 -0700 Received: from atocha.sb.aw.sgi.com ([144.253.1.35]) by sgi.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id KAA00344; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:46:53 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (rick@aw.sgi.com) Received: from aw.sgi.com by atocha.sb.aw.sgi.com (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA28691; Sender: rick@aw.sgi.com Message-ID: <36166270.253345F8@aw.sgi.com> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 10:44:16 -0700 From: Richard Hubbell Reply-To: rick@aw.sgi.com Organization: Alias|Wavefront X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peter machule CC: H Doan , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: $1.00 Thinkpad Floppy @ onsale.com References: <01bdeeaa$61ce4140$44956420@peter> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: peter machule wrote: > > I Bought the exact same thing ;-{ > What you did not mention is that transpo was/is ~$8 . > It is now a $9 paper weight (grin) Anyone know what this drive is for? Can someone post a picture of it? Rick > ..peter > > >I sprung for one of those $1.00 IBM laptop floppies at Onsale.com. For > >$1.00, I took the risk of getting a "backup" secondary floppy just in > >case my original dies. Well, I got it today and I'll just tell > >everyone to avoid it. > >Its and internal floppy and I don't think it will even fit in my > >560E's external floppy. I think its for older Thinkpads. > > > >Well for $1.00, I couldn't go wrong. > > > >HD > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >DO YOU YAHOO!? > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > Rick From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 14:02:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA28275 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 14:02:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09731; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 14:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 14:00:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09622; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 14:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcom18.netcom.com (root@netcom18.netcom.com [192.100.81.131]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09610; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 14:00:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom18.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id KAA03635 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:04:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199810031704.KAA03635@netcom18.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: tp 750 keyboard List-Unsubscribe: I gunked up my 755cx keyboard after a year or two of fairly heavy use. The key action was sticky and sluggish. I got a replacement keyboard >from IBM Direct for around $80 and put it on with some help from Bill Morrow (thanks!). It was a tremendous improvement and well worth it. The keyboard is something that you use up and have to replace every so often, like the trackpoint cap. Later I found that Insight Direct had the same keyboard for around $60. So I was really pained to hear that a new keyboard for a 380 costs $180 or something like that. I wonder if my 770 keyboard will cost that much to replace when it's time. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 16:41:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA29341 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:41:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14027; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:41:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:38:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13872; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:38:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost.cyberramp.net (root@mailhost.cyberramp.net [207.158.64.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13860; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:38:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stinky (ftw-tsa9-1.cyberramp.net [209.196.83.1]) by mailhost.cyberramp.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1/ler-980825-0832-PM) with SMTP id PAA09201 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 15:38:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <00b001bdef0e$2305b880$0400a8c0@stinky> From: "Angela Walker" To: Subject: Problems? with new Thinkpad 600 Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 15:40:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AB_01BDEEE4.3649C3C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AB_01BDEEE4.3649C3C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just purchased a Thinkpad 600 (233MMX with HPA screen, upgraded to 96 = Mb RAM) about 1 month ago. It's a pretty cool machine but I have a = couple of questions. I've read about the instance where it begins to = boot, then starts over. Mine does that, but I haven't really worried = about it and from what I've read, I probably shouldn't. It does boot = very slowly, however. I did a clean install of Windows 98 (upgraded the = BIOS and everything) and have pretty much the same software setup as my = desktop (AMD K6-233 with 128 Mb RAM). My desktop boots very fast, but = the laptop seems to just sit at a blank screen with a cursor (an = underscore type of cursor) after the logo screen has gone away (about 30 = seconds). Does anyone know what it might be doing? The second concern I have is that it has locked up hard three times so = far where the keyboard won't even respond. When this happens, the power = switch on the machine won't even turn it off. I had to take it off of = AC power and remove the battery to get it to turn off so I could reboot. = This doesn't seem particularly good for the machine, but I have no idea = what else to do. The last two times it happened (today), I was just = surfing on the internet, so I'm not sure what caused the lock up. =20 Any suggestions would be appreciated, Angela Walker akwalker@cyberramp.net ------=_NextPart_000_00AB_01BDEEE4.3649C3C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just purchased a Thinkpad 600 = (233MMX with HPA=20 screen, upgraded to 96 Mb RAM) about 1 month ago.  It's a pretty = cool=20 machine but I have a couple of questions.  I've read about the = instance=20 where it begins to boot, then starts over.  Mine does that, but I = haven't=20 really worried about it and from what I've read, I probably = shouldn't.  It=20 does boot very slowly, however.  I did a clean install of Windows = 98=20 (upgraded the BIOS and everything) and have pretty much the same = software setup=20 as my desktop (AMD K6-233 with 128 Mb RAM).  My desktop boots very = fast,=20 but the laptop seems to just sit at a blank screen with a cursor (an = underscore=20 type of cursor) after the logo screen has gone away (about 30 = seconds). =20 Does anyone know what it might be doing?
 
The second concern I have is that it = has locked=20 up hard three times so far where the keyboard won't even respond.  = When=20 this happens, the power switch on the machine won't even turn it = off.  I=20 had to take it off of AC power and remove the battery to get it to turn = off so I=20 could reboot.  This doesn't seem particularly good for the machine, = but I=20 have no idea what else to do.  The last two times it happened = (today), I=20 was just surfing on the internet, so I'm not sure what caused the lock = up. =20
 
Any suggestions would be appreciated,
 
Angela Walker
akwalker@cyberramp.net<= /DIV> ------=_NextPart_000_00AB_01BDEEE4.3649C3C0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 19:54:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA01092 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:54:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18208; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:54:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:51:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18054; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18042; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:51:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (mg128-250.ricochet.net [204.179.128.250]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA00380; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <007501bdef29$26388da0$0201a8c0@greasygirl> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Angela Walker" , Subject: Re: Problems? with new Thinkpad 600 Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:54:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0072_01BDEEEE.781CEA70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01BDEEEE.781CEA70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can't help much with the freezes/crashes but you should use the = hardware reset button instead of your method. Look for it in a small = hole just below the power switch. Press it in with a paper clip or = other suitable pointy object. Be sure that you keep going to the IBM ThinkPad support site and have = update all of your driver software as directed. Enjoy! David -----Original Message----- From: Angela Walker To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Saturday, October 03, 1998 1:41 PM Subject: Problems? with new Thinkpad 600 =20 =20 I just purchased a Thinkpad 600 (233MMX with HPA screen, upgraded to = 96 Mb RAM) about 1 month ago. It's a pretty cool machine but I have a = couple of questions. I've read about the instance where it begins to = boot, then starts over. Mine does that, but I haven't really worried = about it and from what I've read, I probably shouldn't. It does boot = very slowly, however. I did a clean install of Windows 98 (upgraded the = BIOS and everything) and have pretty much the same software setup as my = desktop (AMD K6-233 with 128 Mb RAM). My desktop boots very fast, but = the laptop seems to just sit at a blank screen with a cursor (an = underscore type of cursor) after the logo screen has gone away (about 30 = seconds). Does anyone know what it might be doing? =20 The second concern I have is that it has locked up hard three times = so far where the keyboard won't even respond. When this happens, the = power switch on the machine won't even turn it off. I had to take it = off of AC power and remove the battery to get it to turn off so I could = reboot. This doesn't seem particularly good for the machine, but I have = no idea what else to do. The last two times it happened (today), I was = just surfing on the internet, so I'm not sure what caused the lock up. =20 =20 Any suggestions would be appreciated, =20 Angela Walker akwalker@cyberramp.net ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01BDEEEE.781CEA70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I can't help much with the = freezes/crashes but=20 you should use the hardware reset button instead of your method.  = Look for=20 it in a small hole just below the power switch.  Press it in with a = paper=20 clip or other suitable pointy object.
 
Be sure that you keep going to the IBM ThinkPad = support site=20 and have update all of your driver software as directed.
 
Enjoy!
 
David
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Angela Walker <akwalker@cyberramp.net>
= To:=20 thinkpad@cs.utk.edu = <thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>
Dat= e:=20 Saturday, October 03, 1998 1:41 PM
Subject: Problems? = with new=20 Thinkpad 600

I just purchased a Thinkpad 600 = (233MMX with=20 HPA screen, upgraded to 96 Mb RAM) about 1 month ago.  It's a = pretty=20 cool machine but I have a couple of questions.  I've read about = the=20 instance where it begins to boot, then starts over.  Mine does = that,=20 but I haven't really worried about it and from what I've read, I = probably=20 shouldn't.  It does boot very slowly, however.  I did a = clean=20 install of Windows 98 (upgraded the BIOS and everything) and have = pretty=20 much the same software setup as my desktop (AMD K6-233 with 128 Mb=20 RAM).  My desktop boots very fast, but the laptop seems to just = sit at=20 a blank screen with a cursor (an underscore type of cursor) after = the logo=20 screen has gone away (about 30 seconds).  Does anyone know what = it=20 might be doing?
 
The second concern I have is = that it has=20 locked up hard three times so far where the keyboard won't even=20 respond.  When this happens, the power switch on the machine = won't even=20 turn it off.  I had to take it off of AC power and remove the = battery=20 to get it to turn off so I could reboot.  This doesn't seem=20 particularly good for the machine, but I have no idea what else to = do. =20 The last two times it happened (today), I was just surfing on the = internet,=20 so I'm not sure what caused the lock up. 
 
Any suggestions would be = appreciated,
 
Angela Walker
akwalker@cyberramp.net<= /DIV> ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01BDEEEE.781CEA70-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 3 20:04:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA01181 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:04:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18766; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:01:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18641; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:01:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18629; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:01:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from librettoII.hlb.cable.rcn.com (r7a006661ax.hlb.cable.rcn.com [209.122.66.230]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA20200; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by librettoII.hlb.cable.rcn.com (VPOP3 - Unregistered) with SMTP; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:00:11 -0400 Message-ID: <040801bdef29$f4bd0d90$0100a8c0@p5-166x2> From: "Robert Briganti" To: "Angela Walker" , Subject: Re: Problems? with new Thinkpad 600 Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:00:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0405_01BDEF08.6D76F010" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2110.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0d Unregistered List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0405_01BDEF08.6D76F010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a thought -- did your lockups start before or after you added the = additional memory? -----Original Message----- From: Angela Walker To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Saturday, October 3, 1998 16:34 Subject: Problems? with new Thinkpad 600 =20 =20 I just purchased a Thinkpad 600 (233MMX with HPA screen, upgraded to = 96 Mb RAM) about 1 month ago. It's a pretty cool machine but I have a = couple of questions. I've read about the instance where it begins to = boot, then starts over. Mine does that, but I haven't really worried = about it and from what I've read, I probably shouldn't. It does boot = very slowly, however. I did a clean install of Windows 98 (upgraded the = BIOS and everything) and have pretty much the same software setup as my = desktop (AMD K6-233 with 128 Mb RAM). My desktop boots very fast, but = the laptop seems to just sit at a blank screen with a cursor (an = underscore type of cursor) after the logo screen has gone away (about 30 = seconds). Does anyone know what it might be doing? =20 The second concern I have is that it has locked up hard three times = so far where the keyboard won't even respond. When this happens, the = power switch on the machine won't even turn it off. I had to take it = off of AC power and remove the battery to get it to turn off so I could = reboot. This doesn't seem particularly good for the machine, but I have = no idea what else to do. The last two times it happened (today), I was = just surfing on the internet, so I'm not sure what caused the lock up. =20 =20 Any suggestions would be appreciated, =20 Angela Walker akwalker@cyberramp.net ------=_NextPart_000_0405_01BDEF08.6D76F010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just a thought -- did your lockups = start before=20 or after you added the additional memory?
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Angela Walker <akwalker@cyberramp.net>
= To:=20 thinkpad@cs.utk.edu = <thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>
Dat= e:=20 Saturday, October 3, 1998 16:34
Subject: Problems? = with new=20 Thinkpad 600

I just purchased a Thinkpad 600 = (233MMX with=20 HPA screen, upgraded to 96 Mb RAM) about 1 month ago.  It's a = pretty=20 cool machine but I have a couple of questions.  I've read about = the=20 instance where it begins to boot, then starts over.  Mine does = that,=20 but I haven't really worried about it and from what I've read, I = probably=20 shouldn't.  It does boot very slowly, however.  I did a = clean=20 install of Windows 98 (upgraded the BIOS and everything) and have = pretty=20 much the same software setup as my desktop (AMD K6-233 with 128 Mb=20 RAM).  My desktop boots very fast, but the laptop seems to just = sit at=20 a blank screen with a cursor (an underscore type of cursor) after = the logo=20 screen has gone away (about 30 seconds).  Does anyone know what = it=20 might be doing?
 
The second concern I have is = that it has=20 locked up hard three times so far where the keyboard won't even=20 respond.  When this happens, the power switch on the machine = won't even=20 turn it off.  I had to take it off of AC power and remove the = battery=20 to get it to turn off so I could reboot.  This doesn't seem=20 particularly good for the machine, but I have no idea what else to = do. =20 The last two times it happened (today), I was just surfing on the = internet,=20 so I'm not sure what caused the lock up. 
 
Any suggestions would be = appreciated,
 
Angela Walker
akwalker@cyberramp.net<= /DIV> ------=_NextPart_000_0405_01BDEF08.6D76F010-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 4 00:37:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA03847 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 00:37:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26800; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 00:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 4 Oct 1998 00:32:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26608; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 00:32:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26596; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 00:32:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pam.ege.edu.tr (pam.ege.edu.tr [155.223.16.254]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA03225; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 06:34:14 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199810040334.GAA03225@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "Turgut Kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad list" , "Angela Walker" Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 07:33:55 +0000 Reply-To: "Turgut Kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Problems? with new Thinkpad 600 List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sat, 3 Oct 1998 15:40:56 -0500, Angela Walker wrote: >I just purchased a Thinkpad 600 (233MMX with HPA screen, upgraded to 96 Mb RAM) about 1 month ago. It's a pretty cool machine but I have a couple of questions. I've read about the instance where it begins to boot, then starts over. Mine does that, but I haven't really worried about it and from what It must be a BIOS thing, as it appears to happen before any of the Operating System is loaded. I have dual boot, and the restart happens before the dual boot menu appears. RAM). My desktop boots very fast, but the laptop seems to just sit at a blank screen with a cursor (an underscore type of cursor) after the logo screen has gone away (about 30 seconds). Does anyone know what it might be doing? checking system configuration? That's definitely a windows annoyance; mine does the same, but the OS/2 does not. >The second concern I have is that it has locked up hard three times so far where the keyboard won't even respond. When this happens, the power switch I never had that - power switch always responded. Maybe it's Windows thing again; I dont use windows that much on that machine; except for StarCraft :) - -turgut - --------- Turgut Kalfaoglu EgeNet http://www.egenet.com.tr BBS-TURK http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNhcy8jJjYwErN0xZAQFshQP/c9rLmRGLpkHpOL8CfaUzuZCDCOlcyI89 8ojPOfzqR1EosnZ4HekkHQMRK/fduZ+ZyMMQm3wAz3Nsuu3vyum0n6hRGn7o30js fdc5QEu4qK4gevKrSzqWT0p2csWU2Sjrk+F+3JLI2BnjyqiQ19bSaN5nxNVWxiWV Nyx+Z1KKE98= =JWbq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 4 10:58:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA07847 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 10:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13305; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 10:37:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 4 Oct 1998 10:34:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13171; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 10:34:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13159; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 10:34:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hetherington.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA03152; Sun, 4 Oct 98 10:34:34 EDT Message-Id: <36178724.CAABE9DF@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 10:33:08 -0400 From: Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science, Spoken Language Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Angela Walker Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Problems? with new Thinkpad 600 References: <00b001bdef0e$2305b880$0400a8c0@stinky> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I think the slow boot is mostly due to memory checking. The boot time increased substantially when I went to 160MB in my 600. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 4 13:48:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09260 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 13:48:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17429; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 13:43:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 4 Oct 1998 13:41:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17334; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 13:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17318; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 13:41:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ciscoserv-230-062.usc.edu [128.125.230.62]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id KAA28242; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 10:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 10:05:57 -0700 To: "John H. Kim" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: New TP600 -- hard disk noise (& other issues) In-Reply-To: References: <199810030521.WAA25216@almaak.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 02:24 AM 10/3/98 -0400, you wrote: >On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Randal Whittle wrote: >> At 11:06 PM 10/2/98 -0500, you wrote: >> > >> >If anyone could give me some feedback, it would be appreciated.... I have a >> >new TP 600 with a 4gb drive which randomly makes a light "tonk" sound. >> >> YES!! Me too! Except mine is the 3.1 GB. > >Are you sure it's not the heads parking? Try Fn-F3 to go into >standby and force the drive to spin down and park the heads. No, its not the heads parking. Just to check, I did as you suggested and there is no "tonk" sound. >How many "tonk" sounds? I just noticed my 560 making a faint >rattling sound, as if it were moving the heads back and forth >6-8 times (the term "sabre rattling" comes to mind). But the >disk access light didn't go on. Sort of like that, I guess. Its not a *constant* "tonk" at all, but it does happen every now and again and every time it does, I swear the disk is about to crash. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 4 18:38:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA12008 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:38:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01495; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:36:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:33:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01052; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:33:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00998; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p06.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.75]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA07149; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 15:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810042233.PAA07149@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "John H. Kim" , "Randal Whittle" , "TP List" Date: Sun, 04 Oct 98 15:31:01 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: New TP600 -- hard disk noise (& other issues) List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 04 Oct 1998 10:05:57 -0700, Randal Whittle wrote: >At 02:24 AM 10/3/98 -0400, you wrote: >>On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Randal Whittle wrote: >>> At 11:06 PM 10/2/98 -0500, you wrote: >>> > >>> >If anyone could give me some feedback, it would be appreciated.... I >have a >>> >new TP 600 with a 4gb drive which randomly makes a light "tonk" sound. >>> >>> YES!! Me too! Except mine is the 3.1 GB. >> >>Are you sure it's not the heads parking? Try Fn-F3 to go into >>standby and force the drive to spin down and park the heads. > > No, its not the heads parking. Just to check, I did as you suggested and >there is no "tonk" sound. > >>How many "tonk" sounds? I just noticed my 560 making a faint >>rattling sound, as if it were moving the heads back and forth >>6-8 times (the term "sabre rattling" comes to mind). But the >>disk access light didn't go on. > > Sort of like that, I guess. Its not a *constant* "tonk" at all, but it >does happen every now and again and every time it does, I swear the disk is >about to crash. Maybe it's from SMART? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 4 19:02:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA12218 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 19:02:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05386; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 19:01:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:59:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05262; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:59:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05244; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:59:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256693.007E8324 ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:01:51 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: jd@eighthwave.com cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <86256693.007E361D.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:01:11 -0500 Subject: RE: New TP600 -- hard disk noise (& other issues) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: If IBM support isn't supplying you with enough answers about the Hitachi drive, try politley asking at: http://www.hitachi.com/storage/support/support.html Good luck and let us know how it turns out. Rich From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 01:54:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA15934 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 01:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18047; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 01:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 01:46:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17781; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 01:46:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailer.cia-g.com (root@mailer.cia-g.com [207.66.82.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17769; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 01:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cia-g.com (gup-015-dpm1.cia-g.com [207.66.82.79]) by mailer.cia-g.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA03735; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 23:46:46 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <36185D5F.4A3DD331@cia-g.com> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 23:47:11 -0600 From: Ray Bayles Organization: Internet Four Corners X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peter machule CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760XL from www.cdw.com $1400 References: <01bdeeb0$1440fca0$44956420@peter> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: When I went to this site, they had it priced at $1098.00 or at another www.cdw.com site From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 02:26:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA16384 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:26:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18828; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:24:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:20:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18643; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send1d.yahoomail.com (send1d.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.48]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18630; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19981005062021.14257.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.156.155.214] by send1d; Sun, 04 Oct 1998 23:20:21 PDT Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 23:20:21 -0700 (PDT) From: H Doan Subject: Picture(s) of $1.00 floppy To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: For all those people who emailed me.. Here are some picts taken from my Flexcam http://www.interaxia.com/thinkpad/dvpcap.jpg (as you can see, it is made by Panasonic "manufactured for IBM") It has a panasonic model number JU-237A04W P/N is 79F4630 FRU P/N 79F6422 http://www.interaxia.com/thinkpad/dvpcap2.jpg (this one is it compared to my external 560E floppy) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 02:48:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA16561 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:48:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19537; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:46:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:43:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19350; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19338; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:43:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p20.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.89]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA26580; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 23:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810050644.XAA26580@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "H Doan" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 04 Oct 98 23:42:18 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Picture(s) of $1.00 floppy List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 4 Oct 1998 23:20:21 -0700 (PDT), H Doan wrote: > >For all those people who emailed me.. Here are some picts taken from >my Flexcam > >http://www.interaxia.com/thinkpad/dvpcap.jpg >(as you can see, it is made by Panasonic "manufactured for IBM") > >It has a panasonic model number JU-237A04W >P/N is 79F4630 >FRU P/N 79F6422 > >http://www.interaxia.com/thinkpad/dvpcap2.jpg Hmmm, looks like it's from a machine I don't have. The 300 is not like that, the button is on the side. The 350 uses the same floppy as the 701 I think, but all black and not external. And the 750's is like the 360 series. Maybe it's from the 700 or 720? I think Panasonic made lots of floppy drives for MCA machines. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 02:49:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA16579 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:49:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19730; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:47:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:45:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19415; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:45:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19403; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:45:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p20.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.89]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA26678 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 23:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810050646.XAA26678@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sun, 04 Oct 98 23:43:35 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TPALL: TP770 List-Unsubscribe: There may be a *RARE* chance I can get a 770 if I get rid of ALL (gulp) of my PCs by order of my parents. What are the good and bad things about this machine (since I don't remember everything on the list)? If I get it (again, a rare possibility), I'm planning on running OS/2 Warp 4. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 04:09:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA17184 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:09:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22978; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:00:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22674; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:00:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22645; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:00:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (228.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.228]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id EAA12200; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:00:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36187CA9.E5AC9227@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 04:00:41 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: "John H. Kim" , Randal Whittle , TP List Subject: Re: New TP600 -- hard disk noise (& other issues) References: <199810042233.PAA07149@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hey guys.. these newer IBM HDD's make more noise.. in fact, they have a label that says, in part.. "Rattle Noise is Normal" if you shake a bare HDD it WILL rattle.. i guess this got the owners rattled enough to return them.. thus the label after a while... Paul Khoury wrote: > > On Sun, 04 Oct 1998 10:05:57 -0700, Randal Whittle wrote: > > >At 02:24 AM 10/3/98 -0400, you wrote: > >>On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Randal Whittle wrote: > >>> At 11:06 PM 10/2/98 -0500, you wrote: > >>> > > >>> >If anyone could give me some feedback, it would be appreciated.... I > >have a > >>> >new TP 600 with a 4gb drive which randomly makes a light "tonk" sound. > >>> > >>> YES!! Me too! Except mine is the 3.1 GB. > >> > >>Are you sure it's not the heads parking? Try Fn-F3 to go into > >>standby and force the drive to spin down and park the heads. > > > > No, its not the heads parking. Just to check, I did as you suggested and > >there is no "tonk" sound. > > > >>How many "tonk" sounds? I just noticed my 560 making a faint > >>rattling sound, as if it were moving the heads back and forth > >>6-8 times (the term "sabre rattling" comes to mind). But the > >>disk access light didn't go on. > > > > Sort of like that, I guess. Its not a *constant* "tonk" at all, but it > >does happen every now and again and every time it does, I swear the disk is > >about to crash. > > Maybe it's from SMART? > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C (five of them)(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 04:11:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA17204 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23196; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:07:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:03:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22893; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:03:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22881; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:03:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (228.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.228]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id EAA12460; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:03:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36187D5A.718595E9@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 04:03:38 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Rubin CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: tp 750 keyboard References: <199810031704.KAA03635@netcom18.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul.. when the time comes for a 770 kbd to be replaced, it will still be under warranty.. i suspect.. :-) Paul Rubin wrote: > > I gunked up my 755cx keyboard after a year or two of fairly heavy use. > The key action was sticky and sluggish. I got a replacement keyboard > from IBM Direct for around $80 and put it on with some help from Bill > Morrow (thanks!). It was a tremendous improvement and well worth it. > The keyboard is something that you use up and have to replace every > so often, like the trackpoint cap. Later I found that Insight Direct > had the same keyboard for around $60. So I was really pained to hear > that a new keyboard for a 380 costs $180 or something like that. > I wonder if my 770 keyboard will cost that much to replace when it's time. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C (five of them)(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 07:32:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA18282 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 07:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04055; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 07:31:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 07:23:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA03658; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 07:23:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA03636; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 07:22:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.ege.edu.tr (tk-os2.ege.edu.tr [155.223.1.200]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA29533 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:23:37 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199810051023.NAA29533@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 14:21:36 +0200 Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Windows 98 Complains: Missing NSPMM.DLL List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Each time I boot Win98 on my TP600, I get the above message; Missing NSPMM.DLL - Wave output disabled.. Any ideas where I can find this missing file? Thanks! -turgut - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNhjkADJjYwErN0xZAQEzNgP/X1WOXEPXgfjJ2ULbHLLCFj/XOQiTPqN7 OYsuZYD07ZEZvuTSTP43bpUeBBQ6KET5AHnGAWAp/z3PPCddor+GvZecSQJ6flAw +sDu/aKBopiwgdKN1zosdIk6Y38aGz3MKZQ/Ecfn5mB7cisi06p9h0dbH/Mwx8RU 0fgqwxFLkko= =TAde -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 09:47:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA19607 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:47:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09194; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:45:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:41:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08929; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:41:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from snail.ecs.umass.edu (snail.ecs.umass.edu [128.119.91.94]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08906; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:41:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu (rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu [128.119.71.47]) by snail.ecs.umass.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA12288 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:41:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BDF044.6613D4E0@rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:41:59 -0400 Message-ID: <01BDF044.6613D4E0@rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu> From: Axel Hartmann To: ThinkPad List Subject: RE: TPALL: TP770 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:41:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: On Monday, October 05, 1998 3:43 AM, Paul Khoury wrote: %There may be a *RARE* chance I can get a 770 if I get rid of ALL (gulp) of my %PCs by order of my parents. What are the good and bad things about this machine %(since I don't remember everything on the list)? If I get it (again, a rare possibility), %I'm planning on running OS/2 Warp 4. For some reason I can't see you going for that offer, as tempting as it may sound. First, your .sig would have to be shortened significantly, Second, if you lug the 770 around, there is no computer to watch over your network at home, Third, there is no network at home except loopback, and how silly is that... and finally, the 770 is, and for at least two to three weeks will be, up to date! Can you handle that? ;-) axel %-- %Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 %http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) %Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 %ICQ#14582895 ............................................................................ . Axel Hartmann . . 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From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 10:48:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA20375 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12132; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:42:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11721; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:42:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA (reg.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11709; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:42:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter (slip-32-100-222-142.wa.us.ibm.net) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Mon, 05 Oct 1998 07:42:15 PST From: "peter machule" To: "Ray Bayles" CC: Subject: Re: 760XL from www.cdw.com $1400 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 07:26:59 -0000 Message-ID: <01bdf031$89df04c0$44956420@peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: Good Find .. BUT it is "B"stock and was descibed as: The following is a summary of the product condition: Item in original box: Yes Box Condition: Fair Item Condition: Fair Additional Information: Computer checked out ok Windows95 pre-laoded. Unit looks used AG .peter.. -----Original Message----- From: Ray Bayles To: peter machule Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, October 05, 1998 6:46 AM Subject: Re: 760XL from www.cdw.com $1400 >When I went to this site, they had it priced at $1098.00 > >or at another www.cdw.com site From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 12:39:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA21751 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:39:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19112; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:37:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:31:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18732; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:31:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tigris.netnet.net (tigris.netnet.net [198.70.64.210]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18715; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:31:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oslc.netnet.net (usr1-31-pulaski.netnet.net [206.40.105.55]) by tigris.netnet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA03000 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:31:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199810051631.LAA03000@tigris.netnet.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Jeeps are the best" Organization: Wilbur To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:30:54 UTC/G MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: 3550 Docking stations Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) List-Unsubscribe: Hi... I am Dave Hatch, from Green Bay, Wisconsin. I am on this list just as a short timer. I am storing several Thinkpad docking stations [3550] used here for the 700c. I want to move them out. Had I known of this list, there would have been more. Several met their fate at the hands of the curb scavengers the night before garbage pickup here. I have two of the docking stations available and about 9 of the monitors [IBM, full size]. The monitors work only with the docking station, and perhaps with the laptop. No keyboards or micies. I am not seeking much money, more so a good home for some fine hardware. I hope this was an acceptable posting for this list. Dave Hatch oslc@netnet.net :)------------------How-To-Reach-Us-----------------(: David H. Hatch / N9ZRT Email: oslc@netnet.net Snail: Our Saviour Lutheran Church 120 South Henry Street Green Bay, Wisconsin 54302 1.920.468.4065 - Work 1.920.468.5757 - Fax 1.920.465-8118 - Residence [Emergency use only] WWW: http://netnet.net/~oslc/news/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 12:59:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA21962 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:59:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20616; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:57:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:51:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20043; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:51:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20025; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p15.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.84]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA26373; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810051649.JAA26373@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" Date: Mon, 05 Oct 98 09:50:16 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: tp 750 keyboard List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 04:03:38 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: >Paul.. >when the time comes for a 770 kbd to be replaced, it will still be under >warranty.. i suspect.. :-) That quick? Ouch! -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 14:59:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA24450 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20508; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:56:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:51:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19982; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19953; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:51:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p15.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.84]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA26345; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810051649.JAA26345@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Axel Hartmann" Date: Mon, 05 Oct 98 09:49:49 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: TPALL: TP770 List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:41:58 -0400, Axel Hartmann wrote: >On Monday, October 05, 1998 3:43 AM, Paul Khoury wrote: >%There may be a *RARE* chance I can get a 770 if I get rid of ALL (gulp) of my >%PCs by order of my parents. What are the good and bad things about this machine >%(since I don't remember everything on the list)? If I get it (again, a rare possibility), >%I'm planning on running OS/2 Warp 4. > >For some reason I can't see you going for that offer, as tempting as it may sound. >First, your .sig would have to be shortened significantly, Yeah, like cut out the Warp 3 Connect part until I get the 750 with more RAM and a new HD. >Second, if you lug the 770 around, there is no computer to watch over your >network at home, >Third, there is no network at home except loopback, and how silly is that... > Sure there are, the 701 and this machine. >and finally, the 770 is, and for at least two to three weeks will be, up to date! Can >you handle that? > Sure I can. As well as the OS of my choice. =) -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 16:56:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA26846 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:56:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04730; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:53:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:47:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04301; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:47:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orpheus.amdahl.com (orpheus.amdahl.com [159.199.101.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04281; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:46:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from minerva.amdahl.com([129.212.33.25]) (1789 bytes) by orpheus.amdahl.com via sendmail with P:smtp/R:match-mx-hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:46:30 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.102 1998-Aug-2 #1 built 1998-Aug-14) Received: from cliffy.eng.amdahl.com by minerva.amdahl.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m0zQHVO-000441C; Mon, 5 Oct 98 13:45 PDT Received: from ladybug.M2_BLDG by cliffy.eng.amdahl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00639; Mon, 5 Oct 98 13:46:28 PDT Received: by ladybug.M2_BLDG (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA21201; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:57:10 -0700 From: czs00@eng.amdahl.com (Serenella Ciongoli) Message-Id: <199810052057.NAA21201@ladybug.M2_BLDG> Subject: Re: 760XL from www.cdw.com $1400 In-Reply-To: <36185D5F.4A3DD331@cia-g.com> from Ray Bayles at "Oct 4, 98 11:47:11 pm" To: kglp@cia-g.com (Ray Bayles) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:57:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL35 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > When I went to this site, they had it priced at $1098.00 the one at $1098 was a different item, without the 20x CdRom. You can find it doing a search for ibm 760xl. They seem to have about 15 in stock. CDW item 129132 is the same machine, but it is bundled with the 20x CdRom, valued, according to the sales person I spoke with, at $300. I ended up buying this last one, plus 32 Mb of memory (they were out of stock on the 64Mb cards). It is brand new, and comes preloaded with Windows 95. I will tell you more when I receive it. I currently own a TP760CD. Besides the CPU speed (166Mhx MMX Pentium Vs 90 Mhz) and the bigger hard drive, can someone please remind me what, if any) is different between the 2 models? More specifically, will I be able to use my Docking Station II with the XL? Serenella Ciongoli From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 18:12:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA27966 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:12:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09268; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:07:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08952; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:07:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ptialaska.net ([198.70.245.245]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08940; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bubba (dialups-73.fairbanks.ptialaska.net [208.151.118.25]) by ptialaska.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA02926 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:06:16 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: <003001bdf0ad$2a835360$197697d0@bubba> From: "JV" To: Subject: FS: IBM 32 meg memory chip Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:11:52 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01BDF06A.19DC27A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BDF06A.19DC27A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have an IBM 32 meg memory chip for sale IBM Options PN: 92G7342 / FRU: = 42H2769. It's for an IBM TP 385XD and others (see IBM web site). I want = $45 for it. I have the receipt & paperwork for it and it's still under = warranty. I bought it June 30, 1998. Works fine, I installed a 64 meg = chip & can't use it. Thanks, John ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BDF06A.19DC27A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have an IBM 32 meg memory chip for = sale IBM=20 Options PN: 92G7342 / FRU: 42H2769. It's for an IBM TP 385XD and others = (see IBM=20 web site).  I want $45 for it. I have the receipt & paperwork = for it=20 and it's still under warranty. I bought it June 30, 1998. Works fine, I=20 installed a 64 meg chip & can't use it.
 
Thanks,
 
John
------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BDF06A.19DC27A0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 18:17:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA28045 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:17:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09736; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:16:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:14:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09526; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:14:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx.jud.ca.gov ([208.239.204.222]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09509; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov ([208.239.204.220]) by mx.jud.ca.gov (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA16255; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 000769A9; Mon, 5 Oct 98 15:17:46 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:09:44 -0700 Message-ID: <000769A9.001225@jud.ca.gov> From: Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) To: kglp@cia-g.com (Ray Bayles), czs00@eng.amdahl.com (Serenella Ciongoli) Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re[2]: 760XL from www.cdw.com $1400 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.568526709" List-Unsubscribe: --IMA.Boundary.568526709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part I can tell you more about the machine, since I bought one from them a little more than a year ago (not at $1098 - sigh). You can use the 760XL with the SelectaDock systems, but you must have a Baseplate. The 760 (including the XL) also works with the Dock I, Dock II and Port Replicators for the 75x series. Decent machine, albeit a bit heavy. The P166MMX mobile processor is, however, the most power-hungry of the Pentium class of mobile processors and thus, can get pretty warm for a laptop. Be sure you get the latest version of the bios. If your XL doesn't hibernate or suspend without crashing Win95, don't use the latest version of APM. Instead, go back one version (it's in the Control Panel/ Power Management screen). The W95 preload CD (as delivered to me) is pretty crude when partitioning your hard drive, but you can get a much improved, updated version of the Setup files that will recognize and allow for multiple partitions. Mitchell ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: 760XL from www.cdw.com $1400 Author: czs00@eng.amdahl.com (Serenella Ciongoli) at Internet Date: 10/5/98 1:57 PM > When I went to this site, they had it priced at $1098.00 the one at $1098 was a different item, without the 20x CdRom. You can find it doing a search for ibm 760xl. They seem to have about 15 in stock. CDW item 129132 is the same machine, but it is bundled with the 20x CdRom, valued, according to the sales person I spoke with, at $300. I ended up buying this last one, plus 32 Mb of memory (they were out of stock on the 64Mb cards). It is brand new, and comes preloaded with Windows 95. I will tell you more when I receive it. I currently own a TP760CD. Besides the CPU speed (166Mhx MMX Pentium Vs 90 Mhz) and the bigger hard drive, can someone please remind me what, if any) is different between the 2 models? More specifically, will I be able to use my Docking Station II with the XL? Serenella Ciongoli --IMA.Boundary.568526709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from mx.jud.ca.gov (208.239.204.222) by ima.jud.ca.gov with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 000768F2; Mon, 5 Oct 98 14:02:01 -0700 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by mx.jud.ca.gov (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA15416 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04740; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:54:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:47:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04301; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:47:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orpheus.amdahl.com (orpheus.amdahl.com [159.199.101.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04281; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:46:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from minerva.amdahl.com([129.212.33.25]) (1789 bytes) by orpheus.amdahl.com via sendmail with P:smtp/R:match-mx-hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:46:30 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.102 1998-Aug-2 #1 built 1998-Aug-14) Received: from cliffy.eng.amdahl.com by minerva.amdahl.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m0zQHVO-000441C; Mon, 5 Oct 98 13:45 PDT Received: from ladybug.M2_BLDG by cliffy.eng.amdahl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00639; Mon, 5 Oct 98 13:46:28 PDT Received: by ladybug.M2_BLDG (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA21201; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:57:10 -0700 From: czs00@eng.amdahl.com (Serenella Ciongoli) Message-Id: <199810052057.NAA21201@ladybug.M2_BLDG> Subject: Re: 760XL from www.cdw.com $1400 In-Reply-To: <36185D5F.4A3DD331@cia-g.com> from Ray Bayles at "Oct 4, 98 11:47:11 pm" To: kglp@cia-g.com (Ray Bayles) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:57:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL35 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: --IMA.Boundary.568526709-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 18:26:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA28178 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:26:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10366; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:25:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:23:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10258; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from treex.Stanford.EDU (treex.Stanford.EDU [36.54.0.163]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10245; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dondon@localhost) by treex.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.7) id PAA14706 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:23:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Justin Liu Message-Id: <199810052223.PAA14706@treex.Stanford.EDU> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Compaq Modem on OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: Hi- Does anyone know how I can get support for the Compaq Netelligent 56K card under OS/2? Are there any compatible drivers for it anywhere or is it possible to hack something up? I have a TP 560 133/TFT and the card is recognized and works fine under Linux and Win95. An unrelated question...I installed OS/2's support for Win3.1 and I ended up with a bunch of icons that lead nowhere for all the Windoze accessories. Did IBM give up their license to distribute this code? Why do I have all these stupid icons then? Thanks, - Justin From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 18:42:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA28388 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11281; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:39:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11113; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:39:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.teleport.com (smtp3.teleport.com [192.108.254.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11099; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16129 invoked from network); 5 Oct 1998 22:39:07 -0000 Received: from usertest.teleport.com (HELO user2.teleport.com) (pccare@192.108.254.19) by smtp3.teleport.com with SMTP; 5 Oct 1998 22:39:07 -0000 Received: (from pccare@localhost) by user2.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA29452; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:39:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick West To: JV cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: FS: IBM 32 meg memory chip In-Reply-To: <003001bdf0ad$2a835360$197697d0@bubba> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: What form factor? I have a tp360cse. On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, JV wrote: > I have an IBM 32 meg memory chip for sale IBM Options PN: 92G7342 / FRU: 42H2769. It's for an IBM TP 385XD and others (see IBM web site). I want $45 for it. I have the receipt & paperwork for it and it's still under warranty. I bought it June 30, 1998. Works fine, I installed a 64 meg chip & can't use it. > > Thanks, > > John > Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 19:30:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA28770 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13472; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:26:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13335; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (ftp.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13323; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Mon, 05 Oct 1998 16:25:43 PST From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: "Serenella Ciongoli" , "Ray Bayles" CC: Subject: Re: 760XL from www.cdw.com $1400 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:35:16 -0700 Message-ID: <01bdf0b8$cef42f40$03785a8e@pmachule> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: >> When I went to this site, they had it priced at $1098.00 > >the one at $1098 was a different item, without the 20x CdRom. You can find >it doing a search for IBM 760xl. They seem to have about 15 in stock. These are B stock . And all that entails....(grin) A 8-20X CD-ROM is also available for $150 . B stock. Of course the $24 4X's from Bill are a MUCH better deal . A good overview of the 760XL is in the Roger Dodson Thinkpad Compilation tpichart.pdf available from: ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles > >CDW item 129132 is the same machine, but it is bundled with the 20x CdRom, >valued, according to the sales person I spoke with, at $300. Available in a number of places for $200-$225 . > >I ended up buying this last one, plus 32 Mb of memory (they were out of >stock on the 64Mb cards). > >It is brand new, and comes preloaded with Windows 95. I will tell you more >when I receive it. > >I currently own a TP760CD. Besides the CPU speed (166Mhx MMX Pentium Vs 90 >MHz) and the bigger hard drive, can someone please remind me what, if any) >is different between the 2 models? More specifically, will I be able to use >my Docking Station II with the XL? Yes. The 760Cd is essentially based on a 486 chipset taken to the limit. VL bus and a 2nd generation video chipset Trident 9320. It has Video in and out support . The 760XL is based on a very fast modern Pentium chipset (Intel MX ). PCI bus and a 3rd gen video chipset trident 9385.. with too little memory ...sigh It also has no Video in or out support. > >Serenella Ciongoli From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 19:37:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA28856 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:37:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14000; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:36:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:34:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13778; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:34:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA (reg.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13759; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Mon, 05 Oct 1998 16:34:13 PST From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: Subject: $1599 9547-U9J TP765L 166MMX 256KB 32/3.0 13.3TFT - free 20x CD-ROM Drive! Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:43:50 -0700 Message-ID: <01bdf0ba$0116d9e0$03785a8e@pmachule> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: The TP 765L was found at : http://www.usapc.com/special.htm I have dealt with this company a few times..they are OK. 9547-U9J TP765L 166MMX 256KB 32/3.0 13.3TFT - free 20x CD-ROM Drive! $1599 .peter.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 21:57:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA00273 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:57:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19397; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:54:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19229; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:54:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19214; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:53:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ycxfssto.dhcp.ttu.edu ([129.118.194.87]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981006013925.SABY28122@ycxfssto.dhcp.ttu.edu> for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:39:25 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01bdf0ca$9b18dd80$57c27681@ycxfssto.dhcp.ttu.edu> From: "Stanley Chen" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: A couple of loose items for sale Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 20:42:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BDF0A0.ABBF0C60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BDF0A0.ABBF0C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Group, I have a couple of items left over from previous machines and uninformed = acquisitions that I am trying to sell.=20 2 ($50 for both) ThinkPad 510 batteries (not new, but excellent = condition) 1 ($15) IBM Numeric Keypad for the 750/755 series machines (like new = condition) Buyer responsible for shipping.=20 Thanks Stan ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BDF0A0.ABBF0C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Group,
 
I have a couple of items left over from previous = machines and=20 uninformed acquisitions that I am trying to sell.
 
2 ($50 for both) ThinkPad 510 batteries (not new, = but=20 excellent condition)
1 ($15) IBM Numeric Keypad for the 750/755 series = machines=20 (like new condition)
 
Buyer responsible for shipping.
 
Thanks
Stan
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BDF0A0.ABBF0C60-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 5 23:16:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA01072 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:16:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21841; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:12:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21657; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:12:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm01sm.pmm.mci.net (pm01sm.pmm.mci.net [208.159.126.150]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21609; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:12:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcione.com (usr35-dialup58.mix1.WillowSprings.cw.net) by PM01SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27033) with ESMTP id <0F0D00GNXY6PGF@PM01SM.PMM.MCI.NET> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 03:11:16 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 22:13:19 -0500 From: Jim Schneider Subject: Re: boot secondary drive problem To: Bill Morrow Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <36198ACF.F2F292CF@mcione.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <36086CE8.3BF31E45@mcione.com> <360A751F.8F1FAF30@icanect.net> List-Unsubscribe: Bill, The drive is an IBM DMCA-21440. During the time I had that drive out I tried to boot with the factory 5gb in the ultrabay and the primary bay empty. That also does not work for some reason. It seems as though I took that one apart to check the cable select jumper, and found that the connector on the factory ribbon cable covers all the pins so I can't change any jumpering on that one. Bill Morrow wrote: > Jim.. > what mfg. is the HDD.. > toshiba or IBM..?? > > Jim Schneider wrote: > > > I have a Thinkpad 770E with the 5gb primary drive. I have a 1.3gb > > secondary drive in a shell from thinkpads.com. If I put the 1.3gb drive > > in the ultrabay adaptor the system will not boot. If I leave the primary > > drive in, I get error 74 and hang. If I take out the primary drive I get > > an ascii draw screen showing hitting F1 because no boot device > > available. > > > > If I put this 1.3gb drive in the primary drive bay it boots fine, and if > > I put the 5gb drive in the ultra bay it also boots fine. > > > > To sum it up: > > > > The 5gb drive boots anytime anywhere > > > > The 1.3gb drive boots only in the primary drive bay, and only if the > > 5gb drive is not in the ultra bay. > > > > I have the drive jumpered for cable select too by the way. > > -- > Happy Trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net > 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), > 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), > 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), > 755CE(no gig, 40meg), > 750C(no gig, 4meg), > IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 6 01:29:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA02114 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25657; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:28:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:24:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25520; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:24:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.1.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25508; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:24:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.3.194]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18343 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 07:24:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.43); 6 Oct 98 07:24:20 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.43); 6 Oct 98 07:24:03 +0200 Received: from magrathea.stelarcom.de (132.187.248.164) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.43) with ESMTP; 6 Oct 98 06:03:03 +0200 Received: from localhost (babylon5.stelarcom.de [192.168.0.2]) by Magrathea.stelarcom.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA00174 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:18:19 +0200 Message-Id: <199810051618.SAA00174@Magrathea.stelarcom.de> From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 18:18:18 -0100 Reply-To: "Alexander Wanger" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Suspend/Hibernate ThinkPad - SOLUTION - List-Unsubscribe: APM - since Fixpack 6 for OS/2 Warp 4 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Since fixpack 6 for OS/2 Warp IBM has implemented a new powermanagement compliant with APM 1.2. To enable the default keyboard-functions (Fn-F4, Fn-F12) one has to adjust the APM-settings manually using Engery-object (Systemconfiguration/Energy -> Settings-notebook). One has to enable the second choice which may be called something like "Activate APM-BIOS-support" in the english Versions of OS/2. By this option one disables all OS/2-support for powermanagement to the ThinkPad's BIOS-functions. (In fact nearly all functions IBM provides by the new APM-version since FP6 are build in there anyway.) It's also possible to use the Energy-object of OS/2 Warp. But notice that then also Fuel-Gauge etc. will no longer work! To do this one has to select "Activate APM-BIOS and OS/2-support" (first choice, and the default). Now OS/2 has the complete control on powermanagement, non of the old-fashioned BIOS-functions will work anymore (at least not on my 760XD). That is one can't use Fn-F4 etc anymore. Additionally OS/2 knows only the suspend-mode, so hibernation is no longer possible. The enhanced features for wakeup set in ThinkPad-Features may now be set on the second page of the Engery-objects settings notebook. The only new function provided by the Energy-object of OS/2 is the "switch-off" entry in context menu of Energy. It shuts down OS/2 and switches off the ThinkPad. (Well known behaviour of DOS95). !!! To enable these new features one has to ensure that CONFIG.SYS has the following line RUN=D:\OS2\BOOT\APMDAEMN.EXE (directly after APM.SYS-line) which is not added while apping the fixpack!!! Without that line some very strange behaviour may occour... -- CU/2 (( Proud to be member of Team OS/2 Europe #294 Alexander Wagner )) RTV Franken Team OS/2 Franken (( Request PGP-key Subject: Request for PGP-Keys --------------------------------------------------------------------------- You may also reply to Alexander.Wagner@gmx.de or Alexander.Wagner@gmx.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 6 02:24:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA02631 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 02:24:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26844; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 02:23:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 02:21:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26741; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 02:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26727; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 02:21:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg134-063.ricochet.net [204.179.134.63]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA14180; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:17:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Gerald C. Delsescaux" , Subject: RE: New TP600 -- hard disk noise (& other issues) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:17:42 -0700 Message-ID: <003b01bdf0f1$06fc6230$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3188837C091AD211B1190000C08F3B546ED1@NEXUS> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > From: Gerald C. Delsescaux [mailto:jd@eighthwave.com] > > The ThinkPad (600) is a 2645-51U, dated 08/98 on the case, I believe. The > drive was the standard one that IBM includes: a 4gig Hitachi > model DK227A-41 > (Cyl 7944 Heads 16, Sec 63). Following up late on this one... I think each kind of hard drive has its own characteristic sounds. My 2645-51U doesn't make the kind of "thonk" sounds you describe, but it had an IBM 4Gb drive in it (and now has an IBM 6.4Gb). OTOH, my Libretto 50 *does* make sounds something like you describe, and it has a Hitachi DK237A-32 drive that I installed in it. That drive's been running reliably for several months now. So if anyone said, "My ThinkPad 600 doesn't sound like yours", well, it may just be because of a different model of drive. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 6 03:36:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA03176 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 03:36:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA29565; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 03:29:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 03:26:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA29260; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 03:26:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA29245; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 03:26:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p21.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.90]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA11374; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 00:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810060724.AAA11374@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Justin Liu" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 06 Oct 98 00:25:19 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Compaq Modem on OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:23:17 -0700 (PDT), Justin Liu wrote: > >Hi- > >Does anyone know how I can get support for the Compaq Netelligent 56K >card under OS/2? Are there any compatible drivers for it anywhere or >is it possible to hack something up? I have a TP 560 133/TFT and the >card is recognized and works fine under Linux and Win95. > You might check out Compaq's website. If it's an OEM card with their name on it, you might be in luck, but I don't know if Compaq is big on OS/2 support... >An unrelated question...I installed OS/2's support for Win3.1 and I >ended up with a bunch of icons that lead nowhere for all the Windoze >accessories. Did IBM give up their license to distribute this code? >Why do I have all these stupid icons then? Is this Warp 3 or Warp 4? If Warp 4, that's quite strange, because I recently installed Warp 4 on my P200 for my 701, and all my Win16 apps work fine. Have you tried reinstalling Win-OS/2 (if Warp 4 or blue box Warp 3)? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 6 06:52:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA04495 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 06:52:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA11077; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 06:51:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 06:48:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10946; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 06:48:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10927; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 06:48:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tp701 ([207.121.52.94]) by innernet.net with ESMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 3282300 ; Tue, 06 Oct 1998 06:58:02 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Slip" To: Subject: [701]Final word on power/charging... Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 06:50:33 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <199810061158.3282300@innernet.net> List-Unsubscribe: Hey there, I know this is a really over-abused topic, but this charging bit is getting me confused. I'v been told that with NiMH, there's the 'memory affect', but that with the 701 'advanced NiMH', this isn't true. Taking the later into consideration, what's the best way to get a full, deep charge? Reason I ask is that if I take my battery all the way down, and then re-charge it, the time on FN-F2 is decreased by ~5mins! This is when the battery is on AC(and has been for about 10hrs now) and the BIOS says it is fully charged.Currently the fullest charge on AC I can get is 2:42. First time I got it, which was about a month or two ago, it would charge to 3:00, 3:05 if I was lucky. One other small quirk-supposidly I should have around 1min after the main battery is fully discharged for the system to go into suspend and so that I can get to an Ac source, right? When I'm working, even in Dos, I'll get the warning beep, but then my system just shuts down. I have never had the warning beeps come before-hand. Defeats the purpos in my mind. Thanks for your time, preciate it. -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 6 10:05:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA06128 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:05:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19322; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:05:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:02:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19134; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.hq.tis.com (firewall-user@relay.hq.tis.com [192.94.214.100]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19109; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:02:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay.hq.tis.com; id KAA05270; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from clipper.hq.tis.com(10.33.1.2) by relay.hq.tis.com via smap (4.1) id xma005226; Tue, 6 Oct 98 10:06:08 -0400 Received: from sweet.la.tis.com (sweet.la.tis.com [192.5.49.171]) by clipper.hq.tis.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA28678 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:01:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sweet.la.tis.com (localhost.la.tis.com [127.0.0.1]) by sweet.la.tis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA05553 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 07:01:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rogerk@sweet.la.tis.com) Message-Id: <199810061401.HAA05553@sweet.la.tis.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Booting 760XL from cdrom? Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 07:01:37 -0700 From: Roger Knobbe List-Unsubscribe: Is it possible to cause a 760XL to use the cd as a boot device? The "Startup" icon in the BIOS setup screen is grayed out; I don't know if that's due to something I've done or due to lack of capability to alter the startup sequence... Any pointers appreciated. rog. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 6 10:34:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA06433 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21974; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:31:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21614; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:31:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ssec.wisc.edu (ssec.wisc.edu [144.92.108.61]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21595; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:30:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.ssec.wisc.edu (mail.ssec.wisc.edu [144.92.108.227]) by ssec.wisc.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA29536 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:30:52 -0500 Received: by mail.ssec.wisc.edu with ADMIN;6 Oct 1998 09:29:32 -0600 Message-ID: <361A2D46.FACE86AC@ssec.wisc.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 09:46:31 -0500 From: Paul Schnettler Reply-To: paulsch@ssec.wisc.edu Organization: UW-Space Science & Engineering Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad list server submit Subject: TP755cx and PCMCIA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello All, I'm new to the list and am probably asking something that has been discussed before. (I haven't gone thru the archive) I have a TP755cx w/75mhz pentium. I'm attempting to connect IBM's old PCMCIA 2x CD-Rom drive. I thinkit's a fru:1963007 model (it's at home...) The unit I bought had a non orig disk of drivers which were supposed to be compatible w/dos & win3.x I logged on @ ibm's site and registered my machine and got to the thinkpad support area, finding all sorts of goodies. I found a page that describes how to dump the 32 bit win 95 PCMCIA drivers. NOW, MY question... Should I boot the machine to dos (7.0) and try to load the orig 16bit drivers? Should I load the OTI drivers that IBM has on their site, again in dos mode? I've tried this a couple of different ways and the machine seems to boot the PCMCIA drivers but I get 8 (eight) drive letters and cannot access the drive error messages... Anyone here sucessfully loaded this type of 2x CD-Rom to an older TP w/16 bit PCMCIA-2 ports? Thanks, Paul Schnettler paulsch@ssec.wisc.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 6 11:50:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07333 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28061; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:50:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:48:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27884; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27870; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:48:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA13044 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:48:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:48:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [701]Final word on power/charging... In-Reply-To: <199810061158.3282300@innernet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Slip wrote: > Hey there, > I know this is a really over-abused topic, but this charging bit is > getting me confused. I'v been told that with NiMH, there's the 'memory > affect', but that with the 701 'advanced NiMH', this isn't true. Taking the > later into consideration, what's the best way to get a full, deep charge? I believe the manual says to avoid completely discharging the battery. > Reason I ask is that if I take my battery all the way down, and then > re-charge it, the time on FN-F2 is decreased by ~5mins! This is when the That is why. :-) > 3:05 if I was lucky. One other small quirk-supposidly I should have around > 1min after the main battery is fully discharged for the system to go into > suspend and so that I can get to an Ac source, right? When I'm working, > even in Dos, I'll get the warning beep, but then my system just shuts down. > I have never had the warning beeps come before-hand. Defeats the purpos in > my mind. A lot of 701 owners had this problem. Another common problem was the battery cutting out when the Fn-F2 meter showed 10%-20% remaining. Anyhow, don't worry about any sort of memory effect with the 701's NiMH battery. I had mine stuck in the machine, on AC 24/7 for nearly two years. When I sold it last week, that battery still held about 2.5 hours of charge. With a normal NiMH, you'd have to deep-discharge it from time to time to condition it, and prevent its capacity from dropping too quickly. Doing what I did would've kiled it in a couple months (I did that to a couple 750 NiMHs :-). -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 6 14:10:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA08933 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:10:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07090; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:10:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:05:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06801; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:05:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06786; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p22.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.91]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA18678; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810061805.LAA18678@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "John H. Kim" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 06 Oct 98 11:02:50 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [701]Final word on power/charging... List-Unsubscribe: >> 3:05 if I was lucky. One other small quirk-supposidly I should have around >> 1min after the main battery is fully discharged for the system to go into >> suspend and so that I can get to an Ac source, right? When I'm working, >> even in Dos, I'll get the warning beep, but then my system just shuts down. >> I have never had the warning beeps come before-hand. Defeats the purpos in >> my mind. > >A lot of 701 owners had this problem. Another common problem >was the battery cutting out when the Fn-F2 meter showed >10%-20% remaining. > Especially if it happens in class. And I can't hot swap the batteries because of the darn hot swap battery. >Anyhow, don't worry about any sort of memory effect with the >701's NiMH battery. I had mine stuck in the machine, on AC >24/7 for nearly two years. When I sold it last week, that >battery still held about 2.5 hours of charge. > I have both a NiMH and a NiCAD, and both yield good life. >With a normal NiMH, you'd have to deep-discharge it from time >to time to condition it, and prevent its capacity from >dropping too quickly. Doing what I did would've kiled it in a >couple months (I did that to a couple 750 NiMHs :-). > So, with the 750, that's good, or bad? Anyone got any 750 NiMH's that they want to sell??? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 6 15:40:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA09916 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:40:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12637; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:39:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:36:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12358; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:36:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12337; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:36:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tp701 ([207.121.52.178]) by innernet.net with ESMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 3998600 ; Tue, 06 Oct 1998 15:46:13 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Slip" To: "John H. Kim" , Subject: Re: [701]Final word on power/charging... Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:35:10 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <199810062046.3998600@innernet.net> List-Unsubscribe: > I believe the manual says to avoid completely discharging the > battery. Yes, it does, but the manual was released when it shipped with NiCD batteries. I called IBM and asked. The NiMH's for the 701 were released after printing of the manual. > A lot of 701 owners had this problem. Another common problem > was the battery cutting out when the Fn-F2 meter showed > 10%-20% remaining. Yeah, this is annoying as anything. Exspecially when you have to *guess* how much power you have left. I realise that the meter will fluxuate with the amount of power you are using.. Just seems that the 701 surges and pulls all the juice out at one time. I just got off the phone with IBM support, and they plainly said: 'this particular model of Thinkpad does NOT support hot-swapping of batteries, unless you first supply an AC source' > Anyhow, don't worry about any sort of memory effect with the > 701's NiMH battery. I had mine stuck in the machine, on AC > 24/7 for nearly two years. When I sold it last week, that > battery still held about 2.5 hours of charge. Not sure where I read it, but supposidly the 701 was the first to release the 'smart-NiMH'. The batteries are measured by voltage, not temperature, like previous laptops(or something along that line). Appearently the others used temperature to determine how much charge was left. Anyone out there know any more about this? Thanks -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 6 17:09:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA10890 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:09:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17501; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:06:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:01:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16991; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:01:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com (camel8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16970; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hkyxztrz (user-37kbssp.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.243.153]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA23565 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:00:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark Allison" To: Subject: 385ED Battery Problem Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:00:04 -0400 Message-ID: <000001bdf16c$4af0d0e0$99f345cf@hkyxztrz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I've got a 385ED that's pretty new, with a battery seems to be in good condition. However, the software that checks the battery level always reads either 100 percent or 0 percent when the juice is used up. Any ideas? Thanks, Mark Allison markall@mindspring.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 6 18:28:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA11810 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:28:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22181; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:25:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21982; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:25:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21969; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:25:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [158.152.49.1] (helo=jhartley.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zQfXo-0000ge-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:25:24 +0000 From: jeff@jhartley.demon.co.uk (Jeff Hartley) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Hotswapping CD & floppy on TP760 Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 22:24:43 GMT Organization: Journey's End Reply-To: jeff@jhartley.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <361b91ca.17584715@post.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: I've just bought an internal CD from Bill Morrow's site and looking at the IBM site and the manual I have here, it says I can hot swap the drives. Can someone here confirm that you really can do this without blowing the backside out of the machine. It's a 4X CD and a TP 760ED by the way. Many thanks for any help you can give. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 6 22:32:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA14813 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:32:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02126; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:32:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:27:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01603; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:27:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gold.com.br (gold-1.horizontes.com.br [200.215.160.62]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01585; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:27:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ataide (line1324.horizontes.com.br [200.215.167.39]) by gold.com.br (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA28505 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:36:25 -0200 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:36:25 -0200 Message-Id: <199810070236.AAA28505@gold.com.br> X-Sender: ataide@gold.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Efigenio Vieira de Ataide Subject: unsubscribe List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 6 23:23:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA15313 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:23:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04313; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:23:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:21:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04124; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:21:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04112; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (52.p1.Ascend13.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.169.180]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id XAA05980; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:20:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361ADE60.84DD6F4F@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 23:22:08 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jeff@jhartley.demon.co.uk CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hotswapping CD & floppy on TP760 References: <361b91ca.17584715@post.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------E2757616429E0951435DA6B7" List-Unsubscribe: --------------E2757616429E0951435DA6B7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff.. you can hot swap (maybe) from cd to floppy, but not floppy to cd.. its a win9x thing, not a hardware thing.. NOTE: mt morrow@treco.net e-mail address is down due to the telephone company cable outage.. Jeff Hartley wrote: > I've just bought an internal CD from Bill Morrow's site and looking at > the IBM site and the manual I have here, it says I can hot swap the > drives. Can someone here confirm that you really can do this without > blowing the backside out of the machine. > > It's a 4X CD and a TP 760ED by the way. > > Many thanks for any help you can give. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) --------------E2757616429E0951435DA6B7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff..
you can hot swap (maybe) from cd to floppy, but not floppy to cd..
its a win9x thing, not a hardware thing..

NOTE:
mt morrow@treco.net e-mail address is down due to the telephone company cable outage..

Jeff Hartley wrote:

I've just bought an internal CD from Bill Morrow's site and looking at
the IBM site and the manual I have here, it says I can hot swap the
drives. Can someone here confirm that you really can do this without
blowing the backside out of the machine.

It's a 4X CD and a TP 760ED by the way.

Many thanks for any help you can give.

 

--
Happy Trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
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750C(no gig, 4meg),
IBM WorkPad(1meg)
  --------------E2757616429E0951435DA6B7-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 00:39:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA16534 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:39:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07322; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:38:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:35:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07139; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07127; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:35:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (153.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.153]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id AAA25709; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361AEFE8.97F8F51F@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 00:36:56 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jlk133@usa.net CC: "John H. Kim" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [701]Final word on power/charging... References: <199810062046.3998600@innernet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: i believe the temperature thing is to avoid overcharge.. gets too hot when charging and it will stop charging until temp goes down.. Slip wrote: > > I believe the manual says to avoid completely discharging the > > battery. > > Yes, it does, but the manual was released when it shipped with NiCD > batteries. I called IBM and asked. The NiMH's for the 701 were released > after printing of the manual. > > > A lot of 701 owners had this problem. Another common problem > > was the battery cutting out when the Fn-F2 meter showed > > 10%-20% remaining. > > Yeah, this is annoying as anything. Exspecially when you have to *guess* > how much power you have left. I realise that the meter will fluxuate with > the amount of power you are using.. Just seems that the 701 surges and > pulls all the juice out at one time. I just got off the phone with IBM > support, and they plainly said: 'this particular model of Thinkpad does NOT > support hot-swapping of batteries, unless you first supply an AC source' > > > Anyhow, don't worry about any sort of memory effect with the > > 701's NiMH battery. I had mine stuck in the machine, on AC > > 24/7 for nearly two years. When I sold it last week, that > > battery still held about 2.5 hours of charge. > > Not sure where I read it, but supposidly the 701 was the first to release > the 'smart-NiMH'. The batteries are measured by voltage, not temperature, > like previous laptops(or something along that line). Appearently the others > used temperature to determine how much charge was left. Anyone out there > know any more about this? > Thanks > -Jamie -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 00:47:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA17144 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:47:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07983; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:45:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07845; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:45:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07833; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:45:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (153.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.153]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id AAA27958; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:45:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361AF223.57A62D46@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 00:46:27 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roger Knobbe CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Booting 760XL from cdrom? References: <199810061401.HAA05553@sweet.la.tis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Roger.. do you have a CD plugged into the machine in the ultrabay.. ?? its the only thing i can think of to try.. Roger Knobbe wrote: > Is it possible to cause a 760XL to use the cd as a boot device? The > "Startup" icon in the BIOS setup screen is grayed out; I don't know if that's > due to something I've done or due to lack of capability to alter the startup > sequence... > > Any pointers appreciated. > > rog. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 00:52:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA17193 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:52:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08435; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:52:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:50:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08307; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:50:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08275; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:50:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (153.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.153]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id AAA29029; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361AF313.7B1A0A3D@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 00:50:27 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Geary CC: "Gerald C. Delsescaux" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: New TP600 -- hard disk noise (& other issues) References: <003b01bdf0f1$06fc6230$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: There are variations in the noise level and type of noise (or lack of noise) in even the same HDD from the same box.... these noises range from 'gurgling' to klunking(normal) to whistling.. Michael Geary wrote: > > From: Gerald C. Delsescaux [mailto:jd@eighthwave.com] > > > > The ThinkPad (600) is a 2645-51U, dated 08/98 on the case, I believe. The > > drive was the standard one that IBM includes: a 4gig Hitachi > > model DK227A-41 > > (Cyl 7944 Heads 16, Sec 63). > > Following up late on this one... I think each kind of hard drive has its own > characteristic sounds. My 2645-51U doesn't make the kind of "thonk" sounds > you describe, but it had an IBM 4Gb drive in it (and now has an IBM 6.4Gb). > OTOH, my Libretto 50 *does* make sounds something like you describe, and it > has a Hitachi DK237A-32 drive that I installed in it. That drive's been > running reliably for several months now. > > So if anyone said, "My ThinkPad 600 doesn't sound like yours", well, it may > just be because of a different model of drive. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 01:14:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA17498 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:14:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09313; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:14:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:12:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09195; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:12:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09180; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:12:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (153.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.153]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA05244; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361AF871.52BF2539@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 01:13:21 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Schneider CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: boot secondary drive problem References: <36086CE8.3BF31E45@mcione.com> <360A751F.8F1FAF30@icanect.net> <36198ACF.F2F292CF@mcione.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Jim.. better call me.. noon to 6pm florida time.. otherwise this could go on for a week or more.. :-) NOTE: My other e-mail address "morrow@treco.net" and "bill@thinkpads.com" are not working due to a problem at Treasure Coast Internet, my other ISP If you send e-mail to "penzance@icanect.net" please put my name in the subject line. I hope that "morrow@treco.net" and "bill@thinkpads.com" will be functioning again by wednesday. Any e-mail sent may be lost. Jim Schneider wrote: > Bill, > > The drive is an IBM DMCA-21440. During the time I had that drive out I tried > to > boot with the factory 5gb in the ultrabay and the primary bay empty. That > also does not work for some reason. > > It seems as though I took that one apart to check the cable select jumper, and > found that the connector on the factory ribbon cable covers all the pins so I > can't change any > jumpering on that one. > > Bill Morrow wrote: > > > Jim.. > > what mfg. is the HDD.. > > toshiba or IBM..?? > > > > Jim Schneider wrote: > > > > > I have a Thinkpad 770E with the 5gb primary drive. I have a 1.3gb > > > secondary drive in a shell from thinkpads.com. If I put the 1.3gb drive > > > in the ultrabay adaptor the system will not boot. If I leave the primary > > > drive in, I get error 74 and hang. If I take out the primary drive I get > > > an ascii draw screen showing hitting F1 because no boot device > > > available. > > > > > > If I put this 1.3gb drive in the primary drive bay it boots fine, and if > > > I put the 5gb drive in the ultra bay it also boots fine. > > > > > > To sum it up: > > > > > > The 5gb drive boots anytime anywhere > > > > > > The 1.3gb drive boots only in the primary drive bay, and only if the > > > 5gb drive is not in the ultra bay. > > > > > > I have the drive jumpered for cable select too by the way. > > > > -- > > Happy Trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net > > 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), > > 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), > > 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), > > 755CE(no gig, 40meg), > > 750C(no gig, 4meg), > > IBM WorkPad(1meg) -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 01:25:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA17621 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:25:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09794; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:24:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:23:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09683; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:23:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09670; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:23:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (153.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.153]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA07986; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361AFA72.56233A5E@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 01:21:54 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick West CC: JV , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: FS: IBM 32 meg memory chip References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: the 385 memory won't fit or work in a 360 Patrick West wrote: > What form factor? I have a tp360cse. > > On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, JV wrote: > > > I have an IBM 32 meg memory chip for sale IBM Options PN: 92G7342 / FRU: 42H2769. It's for an IBM TP 385XD and others (see IBM web site). I want $45 for it. I have the receipt & paperwork for it and it's still under warranty. I bought it June 30, 1998. Works fine, I installed a 64 meg chip & can't use it. > > > > Thanks, > > > > John > > > > Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp > PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D > Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 03:24:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA18842 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA13746; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:18:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA13508; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:18:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA13496; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (153.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.153]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA25699; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:18:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361B1611.E7CF96D7@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 03:19:45 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: tp 750 keyboard References: <199810051649.JAA26373@ritchie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul.. i did not intend to say the 770 keyboard was not good, just that the warranty is long.. Paul Khoury wrote: > On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 04:03:38 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > > >Paul.. > >when the time comes for a 770 kbd to be replaced, it will still be under > >warranty.. i suspect.. :-) > > That quick? Ouch! > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 03:56:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA19024 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15039; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:55:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:53:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14926; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:53:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-atm.tampabay.rr.com (tampabay.rr.com [24.92.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14910; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:53:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from eric300.tampabay.rr.com (dt172nda.tampabay.rr.com [24.92.206.218]) by mail-atm.tampabay.rr.com (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA05913 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:47:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006701bdf1c7$86098a40$dace5c18@eric300.tampabay.rr.com> From: "Eric Merkel" To: Subject: New TP380XD won't suspend with Win98 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:53:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: My new 380XD came loaded with Win95, and will suspend fine. But I loaded Win98 in a separate partition and now, after installing some other software, it will not suspend, just returns with a beep. I'm thinking it must be some app that I've installed, but can't figure out what it is. Any ideas ? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 04:40:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA19259 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 04:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16840; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 04:40:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 04:38:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16725; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 04:38:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orpheus.amdahl.com (orpheus.amdahl.com [159.199.101.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16704; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 04:38:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from minerva.amdahl.com([129.212.33.25]) (1826 bytes) by orpheus.amdahl.com via sendmail with P:smtp/R:match-mx-hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:38:20 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.102 1998-Aug-2 #1 built 1998-Aug-14) Received: from cliffy.eng.amdahl.com by minerva.amdahl.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m0zQogx-0001OTC; Wed, 7 Oct 98 01:11 PDT Received: from ladybug.M2_BLDG by cliffy.eng.amdahl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09746; Wed, 7 Oct 98 01:12:38 PDT Received: by ladybug.M2_BLDG (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA03217; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:23:21 -0700 From: czs00@eng.amdahl.com (Serenella Ciongoli) Message-Id: <199810070823.BAA03217@ladybug.M2_BLDG> Subject: Re: 760XL from www.cdw.com $1400 In-Reply-To: <01bdf0b8$cef42f40$03785a8e@pmachule> from peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP at "Oct 5, 98 04:35:16 pm" To: machule@triumf.ca (peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL35 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > The 760XL is based on a very fast modern Pentium chipset (Intel MX ). > PCI bus and a 3rd gen video chipset trident 9385.. with too little memory > ...sigh > It also has no Video in or out support. I have been checking the overview of the 760XL is in the Roger Dodson Thinkpad Compilation tpichart.pdf available from: ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles If I read it correctly, the 760XL does not have DSP, nor internal Mwave modem. This would be the only Thinkpad I know of that would not have an internal modem. Could anyone confirm this for me? And possibly explain me the rationale behind this absence? I do not need video in/out, but, having had an internal modem on my TP760, now I wonder if buying a laptop without an internal modem is a good idea or not. Serenella Ciongoli From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 09:22:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA21007 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01035; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:20:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00892; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from huygens.physics.mcgill.ca (huygens.physics.mcgill.ca [132.206.92.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00880; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:20:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from alban@localhost) by huygens.physics.mcgill.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) id JAA08715; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:20:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:19:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Alban Gerd Kellerbauer X-Sender: alban@huygens.physics.mcgill.ca To: Scott Kelley Subject: Re: Passwords. In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19981007090247.007270c4@pop.avana.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE List-Unsubscribe: Scott, if only the power-on password is set, IBM will be able to help you after=20 verification of the serial number. If the supervisor password is also set, nobody, not even IBM, will be=20 able to remove it. In that case you will have to return the machine to=20 where you bought it. Alban On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Scott Kelley wrote: > Hi all. >=20 > I bought a 385XD from a Computer City Closeout sale. Bought it off the > display. One problem is that some customer set the BIOS/Power on Passwor= d. > I can't get it removed. Has anyone had experience with this. I bought > the thing thinking IBM or someone could help me but I have had several > stores around Atlanta just throw up their hands. Comp-USA is giving it a > shot now and I am waiting to hear. Any thoughts would be appreciated. >=20 > Scott Kelley > Scott Kelley Lead Programmer, H2 Technologies =20 > scottk@avana.net Atlanta, GA =20 > Check out my home page : http://www.avana.net/~scottk =20 >=20 > "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" > - Elanor Roosevelt > "Character is doing the right thing, even when no one is looking" > - Unknown =20 > "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... until you can find a ro= ck." > - Whoever writes funny bumperstickers =20 >=20 A. Kellerbauer McGill University Nuclear Physics Montr=E9al (Qu=E9bec) UIN 8141789 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 09:48:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA21266 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02265; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:47:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:45:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02127; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:45:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigun.c-gate.net (bigun.c-gate.net [207.120.210.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02115; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:45:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from monster-nt4 (pm1wayne1-32.c-gate.net [198.79.69.165]) by bigun.c-gate.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA25721 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:36:41 -0500 From: "Eric Giles" To: Subject: Re: 760XL from www.cdw.com $1400 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:44:30 -0500 Message-ID: <01bdf1f8$9be56f10$01646464@monster-nt4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: Actually, Thinkpad's without an internal modem are more commonplace than one's with. From my experience, only certain higher end models of the 700 series have an internal modem, although now some of the 600 series have this feature also. In my experience with the Mwave modem on a 760ED, I would much rather use a PC Card modem than the internal one. IBM's earlier Mwave system is not that great in performance, as it has to control modem and sound functions at one time. I had many problems with mine locking up, blue screens, etc. I finally disabled the internal modem and started using either a PC Card modem, or when it was in the docking station a U.S. Robotics 28.8 internal. Never had a single problem after that. Now as far as the internal modem in the 770, this is a different story. The design is much better and more powerful in this system, and I have had no problems whatsoever using it. Having an internal modem is a nice feature as long as it's performance and compatability do not suffer. Eric Giles >I have been checking the overview of the 760XL is in the Roger Dodson >Thinkpad Compilation tpichart.pdf available from: >ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles > >If I read it correctly, the 760XL does not have DSP, nor internal Mwave >modem. > >This would be the only Thinkpad I know of that would not have an internal >modem. Could anyone confirm this for me? And possibly explain me the >rationale behind this absence? > >I do not need video in/out, but, having had an internal modem on my TP760, >now I wonder if buying a laptop without an internal modem is a good idea or >not. > >Serenella Ciongoli > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 10:02:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21388 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:02:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03203; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:02:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:00:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02912; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:00:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.noc.netcom.net (mail2.noc.netcom.net [199.183.9.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02889; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denver.servicemetrics.com (denver.servicemetrics.com [207.221.189.100]) by mail2.noc.netcom.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA28735 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ssh by denver.servicemetrics.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA01427; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:57:26 -0600 From: "Steve Hultquist" To: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Subject: TP 600 SelectaBase Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:01:26 -0600 Message-ID: <002a01bdf1fa$f9a99340$51bdddcf@ssh.servicemetrics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone have one of these puppies? Do they come with a power supply, or do I need to buy an additional power supply to plug into it? -- Steve Hultquist, VP Network Services Service Metrics, Inc. the best measure of performance +1.303.381.0888 Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@servicemetrics.com http://www.servicemetrics.com/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 10:29:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21659 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:29:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04725; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:21:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04254; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:21:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04242; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:21:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ursa-minor.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA17851; Wed, 7 Oct 98 10:21:22 EDT Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <361B790A.896846D8@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 10:22:02 -0400 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.35 i686) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Hultquist Cc: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: TP 600 SelectaBase References: <002a01bdf1fa$f9a99340$51bdddcf@ssh.servicemetrics.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The 600's SelectaBase does not come with an AC adaptor. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 10:55:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21932 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:55:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06294; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:55:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:52:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06069; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:52:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06044; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:52:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (mg-20425418-19.ricochet.net [204.254.18.19]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA23638; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <006c01bdf202$836dcef0$1312fecc@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Steve Hultquist" , "Thinkpad Mailing List" Subject: Re: TP 600 SelectaBase Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:55:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: What is the point of the SelectaBase exactly? >Does anyone have one of these puppies? Do they come with a power supply, or >do I need to buy an additional power supply to plug into it? >-- >Steve Hultquist, VP Network Services Service Metrics, Inc. >the best measure of performance +1.303.381.0888 Boulder, Colorado >mailto:ssh@servicemetrics.com http://www.servicemetrics.com/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 10:58:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21970 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:58:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29413; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:01:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29216; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:01:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avana.net (skratchy.avana.net [205.245.133.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29204; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:01:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from skelley (atl1358.avana.net [206.229.96.138]) by avana.net (SM-98/Avana) with SMTP id JAA09835 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:01:21 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981007090247.007270c4@pop.avana.net> X-Sender: scottk@pop.avana.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 09:02:47 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Scott Kelley Subject: Passwords. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi all. I bought a 385XD from a Computer City Closeout sale. Bought it off the display. One problem is that some customer set the BIOS/Power on Password. I can't get it removed. Has anyone had experience with this. I bought the thing thinking IBM or someone could help me but I have had several stores around Atlanta just throw up their hands. Comp-USA is giving it a shot now and I am waiting to hear. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Scott Kelley Scott Kelley Lead Programmer, H2 Technologies scottk@avana.net Atlanta, GA Check out my home page : http://www.avana.net/~scottk "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" - Elanor Roosevelt "Character is doing the right thing, even when no one is looking" - Unknown "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... until you can find a rock." - Whoever writes funny bumperstickers From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 10:58:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21983 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00226; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:07:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29861; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from flounder.net (qmailr@s79-234i226.9na.com [160.79.234.226]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29849; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:07:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19106 invoked by uid 1005); 7 Oct 1998 14:06:44 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Oct 1998 14:06:44 -0000 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:06:44 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Tebbens X-Sender: matthew@ariel.flounder.net To: Scott Kelley cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Passwords. In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19981007090247.007270c4@pop.avana.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Call IBM directly, I'm sure they can help. I would be surprised if they don't have a way around it. Matthew On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Scott Kelley wrote: > Hi all. > > I bought a 385XD from a Computer City Closeout sale. Bought it off the > display. One problem is that some customer set the BIOS/Power on Password. > I can't get it removed. Has anyone had experience with this. I bought > the thing thinking IBM or someone could help me but I have had several > stores around Atlanta just throw up their hands. Comp-USA is giving it a > shot now and I am waiting to hear. Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > Scott Kelley > Scott Kelley Lead Programmer, H2 Technologies > scottk@avana.net Atlanta, GA > Check out my home page : http://www.avana.net/~scottk > > "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" > - Elanor Roosevelt > "Character is doing the right thing, even when no one is looking" > - Unknown > "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... until you can find a rock." > - Whoever writes funny bumperstickers > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 10:59:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21991 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:59:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06744; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:59:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:56:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06486; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail3.noc.netcom.net (mail3.noc.netcom.net [204.31.1.151]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06438; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:56:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denver.servicemetrics.com (denver.servicemetrics.com [207.221.189.100]) by mail3.noc.netcom.net (8.9.1/8.9.1/(NETCOM v2.00)) with SMTP id HAA18497; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ssh by denver.servicemetrics.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA01682; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:53:22 -0600 From: "Steve Hultquist" To: "David W. Taylor" , "Thinkpad Mailing List" Subject: RE: TP 600 SelectaBase Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:57:20 -0600 Message-ID: <003501bdf202$c8b98620$51bdddcf@ssh.servicemetrics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-reply-to: <006c01bdf202$836dcef0$1312fecc@greasygirl.brightware.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 List-Unsubscribe: It's a port replicator. I plan to have it in the office so I can just slide my 600 into it and get a keyboard, mouse, display (and power). > -----Original Message----- > From: David W. Taylor [mailto:detayls@sprynet.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 8:55 AM > To: Steve Hultquist; Thinkpad Mailing List > Subject: Re: TP 600 SelectaBase > > > What is the point of the SelectaBase exactly? > > >Does anyone have one of these puppies? Do they come with a power > supply, or > >do I need to buy an additional power supply to plug into it? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 11:12:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA22115 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08057; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:12:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:10:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07863; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:10:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07840; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:09:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MYHOSTNAME (slip166-72-209-133.ct.us.ibm.net [166.72.209.133]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA167576 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:09:44 GMT Message-ID: <361B849C.2833@ibm.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 11:11:24 -0400 From: "Curtis B. Wayne" Reply-To: wapcarc@ibm.net Organization: Wayne Architects, P.C. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Message-ID: <361B8457.29EA@ibm.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 11:10:15 -0400 From: "Curtis B. Wayne" Reply-To: wapcarc@ibm.net Organization: Wayne Architects, P.C. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alban Gerd Kellerbauer Subject: Re: Passwords. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This from one of our thinkpad user guides: re: Power-on Password "Do Not Forget Your Password! If you have forgotten your power-on password, you cannot reset it. You have to take the computer to an IBM authorized reseller or IBM marketing representative to have the password canceled. Proof of purchase is required, and an additional charge might be required for this purchase." >from another 'puter's guide: re: Hard-Disk Password " If you forget your hard-disk password, there is no way to reset the password or recover data in the hard disk drive. Neither IBM nor an IBM authorized dealer can make the hard disk drive usable." I suggest you return the computer to the seller and have THEM undertake this time and expense. I believe the BIOS must be flashed for the power-on password, and possibly the HDD is toast if the password is that kind. Nice to know how to ruin someone's day with just a few keystrokes. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 11:28:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA22300 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:28:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09623; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:27:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:24:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09310; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:24:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from flounder.net (qmailr@s79-234i226.9na.com [160.79.234.226]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09285; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22989 invoked by uid 1005); 7 Oct 1998 16:23:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Oct 1998 16:23:58 -0000 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:23:58 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Tebbens X-Sender: matthew@ariel.flounder.net To: "Curtis B. Wayne" cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] In-Reply-To: <361B849C.2833@ibm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hmmm thats an idea, re-flash with same/newer bios !? On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Curtis B. Wayne wrote: [NON-Text Body part not included] Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 11:10:15 -0400 From: Curtis B. Wayne To: Alban Gerd Kellerbauer Subject: Re: Passwords. This from one of our thinkpad user guides: re: Power-on Password "Do Not Forget Your Password! If you have forgotten your power-on password, you cannot reset it. You have to take the computer to an IBM authorized reseller or IBM marketing representative to have the password canceled. Proof of purchase is required, and an additional charge might be required for this purchase." >from another 'puter's guide: re: Hard-Disk Password " If you forget your hard-disk password, there is no way to reset the password or recover data in the hard disk drive. Neither IBM nor an IBM authorized dealer can make the hard disk drive usable." I suggest you return the computer to the seller and have THEM undertake this time and expense. I believe the BIOS must be flashed for the power-on password, and possibly the HDD is toast if the password is that kind. Nice to know how to ruin someone's day with just a few keystrokes. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 11:40:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA22460 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:40:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10924; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:36:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10611; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:36:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgate.generics.co.uk (mailgate.generics.co.uk [194.216.39.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10590; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scigen.co.uk (scigen) by mailgate.generics.co.uk (5.0/PIPEX simple 1.26) id AA26611; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:41:23 +0000 Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk by scigen.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26790; Wed, 7 Oct 98 16:30:20 BST Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:35:20 +0000 To: "Curtis B. Wayne" , Matthew Tebbens Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re[2]: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: I can't believe that all the data on the hard disk is encrypted when=20= you set the hard disk password=2E It must therefore be in the clear and=20= therefor readable on a different computer that ignores the password=2E ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Passwords=2E] Author: MIME:Matthew Tebbens at INTERNET Date: 07/10/98 16:25 Hmmm thats an idea, re-flash with same/newer bios !? On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Curtis B=2E Wayne wrote: [NON-Text Body part not included] Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 11:10:15 -0400=20= From: Curtis B=2E Wayne To: Alban Gerd Kellerbauer =20= Subject: Re: Passwords=2E This from one of our thinkpad user guides: re: Power-on Password "Do Not Forget Your Password! If you have forgotten your power-on password, you cannot reset it=2E You=20= have to take the computer to an IBM authorized reseller or IBM marketing=20= representative to have the password canceled=2E Proof of purchase is=20= required, and an additional charge might be required for this purchase=2E" >from another 'puter's guide: re: Hard-Disk Password " If you forget your hard-disk password, there is no way to reset the=20= password or recover data in the hard disk drive=2E Neither IBM nor an IBM=20= authorized dealer can make the hard disk drive usable=2E" I suggest you return the computer to the seller and have THEM undertake=20= this time and expense=2E I believe the BIOS must be flashed for the power-on password, and=20= possibly the HDD is toast if the password is that kind=2E Nice to know how to ruin someone's day with just a few keystrokes=2E ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom http://www=2Egenerics=2Eco=2Euk ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 11:45:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA22493 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:45:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11472; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:44:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:42:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11187; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:42:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from flounder.net (qmailr@s79-234i226.9na.com [160.79.234.226]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11155; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23509 invoked by uid 1005); 7 Oct 1998 16:41:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Oct 1998 16:41:23 -0000 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:41:23 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Tebbens X-Sender: matthew@ariel.flounder.net To: Adam Quantrill cc: "Curtis B. Wayne" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: No all the data on the HD is NOT encrypted when you set the HD password. BUT, its probably held on the HD electronics somewhere. I don't think IBM would overlook someone takeing the HD and putting it in a new system. On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Adam Quantrill wrote: > I can't believe that all the data on the hard disk is encrypted when you set the hard disk password. It must therefore be in the clear and therefor readable on a different computer that ignores the password. > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] > Author: MIME:Matthew Tebbens at INTERNET > Date: 07/10/98 16:25 > > > > > Hmmm thats an idea, re-flash with same/newer bios !? > > > On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Curtis B. Wayne wrote: > > > [NON-Text Body part not included] > > Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 11:10:15 -0400 From: Curtis B. Wayne > To: Alban Gerd Kellerbauer Subject: Re: Passwords. > > This from one of our thinkpad user guides: > > re: Power-on Password > > "Do Not Forget Your Password! > > If you have forgotten your power-on password, you cannot reset it. You have to take the computer to an IBM authorized reseller or IBM marketing representative to have the password canceled. Proof of purchase is required, and an additional charge might be required for this purchase." > > from another 'puter's guide: > > re: Hard-Disk Password > > " If you forget your hard-disk password, there is no way to reset the password or recover data in the hard disk drive. Neither IBM nor an IBM authorized dealer can make the hard disk drive usable." > > I suggest you return the computer to the seller and have THEM undertake this time and expense. > > I believe the BIOS must be flashed for the power-on password, and possibly the HDD is toast if the password is that kind. > > Nice to know how to ruin someone's day with just a few keystrokes. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > Harston > Cambridge > CB2 5NH > United Kingdom http://www.generics.co.uk > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 11:51:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA22552 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12129; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:50:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:48:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11807; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:48:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11793; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:47:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256696.00570471 ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:50:27 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: aquantrill@scigen.co.uk cc: wapcarc@ibm.net, matthew@tebbens.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <86256696.0056BB2F.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:49:47 -0500 Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: >I can't believe that all the data on the hard disk is encrypted when you set the hard disk password. It must therefore be in the clear and therefor readable on a different computer that ignores the password. The data isn't encrypted. The hard disk password is actually a function of the harddrive's firmware, Not the PC's BIOS. The hard drive won't give the data out until the password is properly passed to it. Rich From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 12:03:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA22660 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:02:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13662; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:59:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13295; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:59:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13277; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:59:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (60.p1.Ascend13.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.169.188]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id LAA23375; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361B9038.483312D2@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 12:00:56 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alban Gerd Kellerbauer CC: Scott Kelley Subject: Re: Passwords. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The bios password should be able to be removed by shorting the appropriat= e point and powering on the machine.. not sure where this point is in a 38x machine.. any other password beyond that is supposed to be unbreakable, BUT there w= as a fellow who claims to have done it by making a copy of the unpassword prot= ected bios and then applying it over the password protected bios.. he used some utility that copies a bios.. if you ask me to look this up, it'll take a whiel to find his post.. Alban Gerd Kellerbauer wrote: > Scott, > > if only the power-on password is set, IBM will be able to help you afte= r > verification of the serial number. > > If the supervisor password is also set, nobody, not even IBM, will be > able to remove it. In that case you will have to return the machine to > where you bought it. > > Alban > > On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Scott Kelley wrote: > > > Hi all. > > > > I bought a 385XD from a Computer City Closeout sale. Bought it off t= he > > display. One problem is that some customer set the BIOS/Power on Pas= sword. > > I can't get it removed. Has anyone had experience with this. I bou= ght > > the thing thinking IBM or someone could help me but I have had severa= l > > stores around Atlanta just throw up their hands. Comp-USA is giving = it a > > shot now and I am waiting to hear. Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > > > Scott Kelley > > Scott Kelley Lead Programmer, H2 Technologies > > scottk@avana.net Atlanta, GA > > Check out my home page : http://www.avana.net/~scottk > > > > "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" > > - Elanor Roosevelt > > "Character is doing the right thing, even when no one is looking" > > - Unknown > > "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... until you can find = a rock." > > - Whoever writes funny bumperstickers > > > > A. Kellerbauer > > McGill University Nuclear Physics > Montr=E9al (Qu=E9bec) > UIN 8141789 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 12:40:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA23115 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:40:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17546; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:37:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17131; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17116; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:37:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (60.p1.Ascend13.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.169.188]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id MAA26426; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:07:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361B920F.E60F934@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 12:08:47 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Serenella Ciongoli CC: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760XL from www.cdw.com $1400 References: <199810070823.BAA03217@ladybug.M2_BLDG> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Sereella.. IBM made a line of non-mwave macines.. lower cost is the reason.. also, for those who want a modem, the pcmcia slots should suffice.. the plus is you get whatever you want and don't have the uncertainty of the DSP modem, AND in the 760, the DSP was too slow for SB and full speed modem at the same time.. these days a non DSM machine is better for some users.. there are a bunch on non-DSP thinkpads.. 76xEL, ELD, L and a whole line of 770's.. Serenella Ciongoli wrote: > > The 760XL is based on a very fast modern Pentium chipset (Intel MX ). > > PCI bus and a 3rd gen video chipset trident 9385.. with too little memory > > ...sigh > > It also has no Video in or out support. > > I have been checking the overview of the 760XL is in the Roger Dodson > Thinkpad Compilation tpichart.pdf available from: > ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles > > If I read it correctly, the 760XL does not have DSP, nor internal Mwave > modem. > > This would be the only Thinkpad I know of that would not have an internal > modem. Could anyone confirm this for me? And possibly explain me the > rationale behind this absence? > > I do not need video in/out, but, having had an internal modem on my TP760, > now I wonder if buying a laptop without an internal modem is a good idea or > not. > > Serenella Ciongoli -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 12:44:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA23172 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17938; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:40:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17613; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:40:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from flounder.net (qmailr@s79-234i226.9na.com [160.79.234.226]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17566; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:40:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25518 invoked by uid 1005); 7 Oct 1998 17:39:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Oct 1998 17:39:27 -0000 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:39:27 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Tebbens X-Sender: matthew@ariel.flounder.net To: Rich_Chong@mail.share.org cc: aquantrill@scigen.co.uk, wapcarc@ibm.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] In-Reply-To: <86256696.0059EFE0.00@passnotes.share.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I was just able to set the harddrive password on a tp without the harddrived installed ! :) I assume the BIOS just checks the harddrive for a password first, that way the password just sits on the harddrive firmware and follows the harddrive from system to system. On Wed, 7 Oct 1998 Rich_Chong@mail.share.org wrote: > > Okay, well actually, the system BIOS does need to be aware of that > harddrive password capability, so there is some interaction, but the actual > locking mechanism is embedded into the harddrive. Short of some secret > backdoor or reset mechanism, replacing the harddrive electronics PCB is the > only way to recover the data. > > Rich > > > > > >I can't believe that all the data on the hard disk is encrypted when you > set the hard disk password. It must therefore be in the clear and therefor > readable on a different computer that ignores the password. > > The data isn't encrypted. The hard disk password is actually a function of > the harddrive's firmware, Not the PC's BIOS. The hard drive won't give the > data out until the password is properly passed to it. > > Rich > > > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 12:46:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA23215 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18241; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:46:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:43:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17955; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17908; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id LAA23583 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:43:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:43:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Passwords In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: It's the drive electronics, alright. A new drive can be used, or a brand with a different or non-existent password scheme (like Toshiba). ThinkPads do not force you to use drives with this capability, thankfully. It "should" be possible to desolder the chip that holds the password and replace it, but depending on how determined the IBM drive engineer was, that chip could very well be inside the disk's seal, so you'd need a cleanroom environment to perform the operation. IBM would probably not do it because of the cost, and not many of us have cleanrooms in our workshops. A "cheaper" method (for IBM anyway), would be to make a machine that guesses passwords. Put on the drive and let it run for a few days, clear the password and return it as fixed or sell as refurbished. Chris Schumann From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 13:03:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA23497 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:03:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16321; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:30:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:26:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15864; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:26:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.electricv.com (ns.electricv.com [207.66.81.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15797; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:26:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gallup.net (gup-018-dpm1.cia-g.com [207.66.82.82]) by ns.electricv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12445; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:25:46 -0600 Message-ID: <361B9627.902AC409@gallup.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 10:26:15 -0600 From: Ray Bayles Organization: Internet Four Corners X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David W. Taylor" CC: Steve Hultquist , Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: TP 600 SelectaBase References: <006c01bdf202$836dcef0$1312fecc@greasygirl.brightware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Port replicator for quick connects when moving from office to office or home to office to home... permits quick connections of routinely used equipment and on some Thinkpads it is needed to connect with a full docking station that has speakers, hard drives, monitor, etc. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 13:06:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA23528 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20309; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:05:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:03:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20038; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:03:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.noc.netcom.net (mail1.noc.netcom.net [204.31.1.150]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20015; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:03:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denver.servicemetrics.com (denver.servicemetrics.com [207.221.189.100]) by mail1.noc.netcom.net (8.9.1/8.9.1/(NETCOM v2.00)) with SMTP id KAA19490 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ssh by denver.servicemetrics.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA02307; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:00:13 -0600 From: "Steve Hultquist" To: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Subject: RE: Passwords Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:04:11 -0600 Message-ID: <003c01bdf214$812698e0$51bdddcf@ssh.servicemetrics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 List-Unsubscribe: I view it as a *GOOD* thing that this is really hard to break. Why don't you? > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Schumann [mailto:whizkid@dwave.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 10:43 AM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Passwords > > > It's the drive electronics, alright. A new drive can be used, or a brand > with a different or non-existent password scheme (like Toshiba). > > ThinkPads do not force you to use drives with this capability, thankfully. > > It "should" be possible to desolder the chip that holds the password and > replace it, but depending on how determined the IBM drive engineer was, > that chip could very well be inside the disk's seal, so you'd need a > cleanroom environment to perform the operation. IBM would probably not do > it because of the cost, and not many of us have cleanrooms in our > workshops. > > A "cheaper" method (for IBM anyway), would be to make a machine that > guesses passwords. Put on the drive and let it run for a few days, clear > the password and return it as fixed or sell as refurbished. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 13:35:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA23924 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:35:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22412; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:27:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21829; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:27:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21752; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:27:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (130.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.130]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id NAA26118; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361BA44E.F76F887A@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 13:26:38 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rich_Chong@mail.share.org CC: aquantrill@scigen.co.uk, wapcarc@ibm.net, matthew@tebbens.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] References: <86256696.0059EFE0.00@passnotes.share.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Rich.. Do you really think replacing the HDD electronics will bypass the HDD password.. i can test for that idea.. :-) however, common word is there is no way to get the data off the drive without the password.. period.. now all i need is the t-2 torx driver to swap electronics on a HDD.. :-) Rich_Chong@mail.share.org wrote: > > Okay, well actually, the system BIOS does need to be aware of that > harddrive password capability, so there is some interaction, but the actual > locking mechanism is embedded into the harddrive. Short of some secret > backdoor or reset mechanism, replacing the harddrive electronics PCB is the > only way to recover the data. > > Rich > > >I can't believe that all the data on the hard disk is encrypted when you > set the hard disk password. It must therefore be in the clear and therefor > readable on a different computer that ignores the password. > > The data isn't encrypted. The hard disk password is actually a function of > the harddrive's firmware, Not the PC's BIOS. The hard drive won't give the > data out until the password is properly passed to it. > > Rich -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 13:39:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA23976 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:39:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22801; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:38:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:36:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22470; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:36:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22450; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (130.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.130]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id NAA29534; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361BA665.7770A67C@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 13:35:33 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Quantrill CC: Matthew Tebbens , "Curtis B. Wayne" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Adam.. just THIMK about what you just suggested.. reinstate the partition table..!!?? Adam Quantrill wrote: > > My vote is that they encrypt the partition table. You would only have to reinstate a partition table in the clear to read the data with no problems. > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] > Author: MIME:Matthew Tebbens at INTERNET > Date: 07/10/98 16:45 > > No all the data on the HD is NOT encrypted when you set the HD password. > > BUT, its probably held on the HD electronics somewhere. I don't think IBM would overlook someone takeing the HD and putting it in a new system. > > On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Adam Quantrill wrote: > > > I can't believe that all the data on the hard disk is encrypted when you set the hard disk password. It must therefore be in the clear and therefor readable on a different computer that ignores the password. > > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] > > Author: MIME:Matthew Tebbens at INTERNET > Date: 07/10/98 16:25 > > > > > > Hmmm thats an idea, re-flash with same/newer bios !? > > > On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Curtis B. Wayne wrote: > > > > [NON-Text Body part not included] > > > Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 11:10:15 -0400 From: Curtis B. Wayne > > To: Alban Gerd Kellerbauer Subject: Re: Passwords. > > > This from one of our thinkpad user guides: > > re: Power-on Password > > > "Do Not Forget Your Password! > > > If you have forgotten your power-on password, you cannot reset it. You have to take the computer to an IBM authorized reseller or IBM marketing representative to have the password canceled. Proof of purchase is required, and an additional > charge might be required for this purchase." > > from another 'puter's guide: > > > re: Hard-Disk Password > > > " If you forget your hard-disk password, there is no way to reset the password or recover data in the hard disk drive. Neither IBM nor an IBM authorized dealer can make the hard disk drive usable." > > > I suggest you return the computer to the seller and have THEM undertake this time and expense. > > > I believe the BIOS must be flashed for the power-on password, and possibly the HDD is toast if the password is that kind. > > > Nice to know how to ruin someone's day with just a few keystrokes. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > Harston > > Cambridge > > CB2 5NH > > United Kingdom http://www.generics.co.uk > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > Harston > Cambridge > CB2 5NH > United Kingdom http://www.generics.co.uk > ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 14:04:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA24265 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24675; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:03:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:01:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24492; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:01:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24472; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:01:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256696.00633B21 ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:03:52 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <86256696.00630CED.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:03:10 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Well, it's what i've heard; That the password is in the flash eeprom of the harddrive. If the password or matching key is actually stored internally in the harddrive, of course this wouldnt work. I've never actually tried it, and would actually be happier if it didn't work that easy. Let us know if you do try it tho. You probably understand the implications already, but make sure the drive models are exactly the same. Rich Rich.. Do you really think replacing the HDD electronics will bypass the HDD password.. i can test for that idea.. :-) however, common word is there is no way to get the data off the drive without the password.. period.. now all i need is the t-2 torx driver to swap electronics on a HDD.. :-) Rich_Chong@mail.share.org wrote: > > Okay, well actually, the system BIOS does need to be aware of that > harddrive password capability, so there is some interaction, but the actual > locking mechanism is embedded into the harddrive. Short of some secret > backdoor or reset mechanism, replacing the harddrive electronics PCB is the > only way to recover the data. > > Rich > > >I can't believe that all the data on the hard disk is encrypted when you > set the hard disk password. It must therefore be in the clear and therefor > readable on a different computer that ignores the password. > > The data isn't encrypted. The hard disk password is actually a function of > the harddrive's firmware, Not the PC's BIOS. The hard drive won't give the > data out until the password is properly passed to it. > > Rich -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 14:26:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA24600 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:26:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25872; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:16:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:13:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25556; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:13:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25488; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:12:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p13.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.82]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA08066; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810071812.LAA08066@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" , "Chris Schumann" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 07 Oct 98 11:09:37 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Passwords List-Unsubscribe: >you don't NEED a cleanroom.. just a semiclean environment.. >(i have a drive i opened LONG ago, i glued a clear plastic cover over >the disc's and head actuator.. and i run it from time to time to >demonstrate how these things work) Hey, I've done that for a school project with the drive just OPEN. No cover or anything, and I never got drive errors. I was using a ST225. Speaking of which, too bad they don't make notebooks with clear covers so you can see everything that goes on inside! -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 14:51:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA24962 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28116; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:51:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:47:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27898; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:47:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27817; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:46:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-68.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.68]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id NAA21882 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:34:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981007133918.0069f6d8@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 13:39:18 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Advantages of DSP/Mwave modem vs. PC Card In-Reply-To: <361B920F.E60F934@icanect.net> References: <199810070823.BAA03217@ladybug.M2_BLDG> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:08 PM 10/7/98 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: >Sereella.. >IBM made a line of non-mwave macines.. >lower cost is the reason.. >also, for those who want a modem, the pcmcia slots should suffice.. >the plus is you get whatever you want and don't have the uncertainty of the DSP >modem, AND in the 760, the DSP was too slow for SB and full speed modem at the >same time.. >these days a non DSM machine is better for some users.. So, in actuality, what are the advantages/disadvantages of using a PC Card modem with a DSP equipped 770 series machine? I used a 760C before, so I know the problems I had back then (stepping down connect speeds and/or disabling sound, etc...). I have an extra Megahertz (USR/3Com) 56k PC Card Xjack modem (X2/V.90). If there is an inherently visible advantage of using this PC Card modem over the internal DSP powered unit, I will use it, but it is much more convenient to use the included modem with the 770's I use and deploy to fellow consultants. So far, it seems to work as promised, and connects have been acceptable. ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 15:04:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA25094 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:04:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25977; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:17:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:14:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25730; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:14:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25629; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:14:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256696.00646235 ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:16:27 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: ssh@servicemetrics.com cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <86256696.00633B9C.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:15:43 -0500 Subject: RE: Passwords Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Although most people do think the capability is good. It's a hassle or unneeded capability for others. Especially computer stores who have customers(?) who are effectively destroying demo machines by playing dumb games like this. The implementation of setting the password should be a little more difficult, IMO. Like having a specially coded floppy or unique password to do the initial setting. The main problem the initial poster has, is that he got it from a going-outta-business Computer City store (as-is no returns), and is stuck because the manufacturer's warrantee doesnt cover this sort of recovery. Now some stores actually set their demo machines' passwords so it cant be destroyed, but that makes for a poor demo machine. This may be the case in this situation, but good luck trying to find someone left at that CC who knows what it is or where to find it. Rich >I view it as a *GOOD* thing that this is really hard to break. Why don't you? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 15:13:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA25179 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:13:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00948; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:10:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00718; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00611; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp.binghamton.edu (bing248.net108.binghamton.edu [128.226.108.248]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA09176; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:09:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810071909.PAA09176@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-travaganza: http://free-music.com/ken Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 15:08:56 -0400 To: Scott Kelley , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Ken Subject: [TPALL] Bypassing BIOS password easy In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19981007090247.007270c4@pop.avana.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: >I bought a 385XD from a Computer City Closeout sale. Bought it off the >display. One problem is that some customer set the BIOS/Power on Password. Many people quoted the manual that says, "you will have to take it to IBM for servicing." But one person referred to the fact that you just have to short a jumper to bypass the password. I found it disturbing how (before I even bought my TP) I found the one manual on the web that explains that only IBM can bypass the BIOS password, and shortly found the other manual that explains precisely how to bypass the BIOS password. Not very good security if anyone in the world can download the manual that explains the trick. Anyway, see if you can find the Hardware Maintenance Manual for the 385XD on IBM's site. The one for the 770 explains exactly where the jumper is, and, frankly, it's extremely easy to get to - it's in a user-serviceable location, in fact. I, too, would love to know the results of somebody's hard disk password experiments. Ken - kenzo@free-music.com - - http://free-music.com/ken/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 15:20:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA25290 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:20:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01517; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:20:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:17:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01324; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:17:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigun.c-gate.net (bigun.c-gate.net [207.120.210.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01301; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from monster-nt4 (pm1wayne1-27.c-gate.net [198.79.69.160]) by bigun.c-gate.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA10294 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:08:31 -0500 From: "Eric Giles" To: Subject: Re: Advantages of DSP/Mwave modem vs. PC Card Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:16:20 -0500 Message-ID: <01bdf226$f73cadf0$01646464@monster-nt4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: As I mentioned in a previous post, and as you have found out, the 770 has a much improved DSP system for the modem. I have seen no reason at all to disable the internal modem and use a PC Card modem. Actually, the modem in my 770 performs better than some desktop modems that I have used. Hopefully, there will soon be a v.90 upgrade for the modem, as one day I just might have the capability in my area to use it! Eric Giles >So, in actuality, what are the advantages/disadvantages of using a PC Card >modem >with a DSP equipped 770 series machine? I used a 760C before, so I know the >problems >I had back then (stepping down connect speeds and/or disabling sound, >etc...). >I have an extra Megahertz (USR/3Com) 56k PC Card Xjack modem (X2/V.90). If >there >is an inherently visible advantage of using this PC Card modem over the >internal DSP >powered unit, I will use it, but it is much more convenient to use the >included >modem with the 770's I use and deploy to fellow consultants. So far, it >seems to work >as promised, and connects have been acceptable. > > >------------------------------------------------- >Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting >800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 >Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 >Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net >------------------------------------------------- >Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic >RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. >Network and System consultation and installation >-------------------------------------------------- > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 15:25:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA25335 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:25:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02098; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:24:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:22:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01857; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:22:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01809; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:22:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p13.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.82]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA18858; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810071921.MAA18858@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Mark Bell" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 07 Oct 98 12:18:36 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Advantages of DSP/Mwave modem vs. PC Card List-Unsubscribe: >So, in actuality, what are the advantages/disadvantages of using a PC Card >modem >with a DSP equipped 770 series machine? I used a 760C before, so I know the >problems >I had back then (stepping down connect speeds and/or disabling sound, >etc...). >I have an extra Megahertz (USR/3Com) 56k PC Card Xjack modem (X2/V.90). If >there >is an inherently visible advantage of using this PC Card modem over the >internal DSP >powered unit, I will use it, but it is much more convenient to use the >included >modem with the 770's I use and deploy to fellow consultants. So far, it >seems to work >as promised, and connects have been acceptable. IBM probably would have been better off having one DSP for the sound portion, and another for the modem (linking the two for voice confrencing). I have the 3D PCMCIA sound card, which has an Mwave chip in it, and it sounds WONDERFUL. It's currently in my 750. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 15:30:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA25395 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:30:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02611; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:29:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:27:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02330; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:27:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02317; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:27:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ursa-minor.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA19673; Wed, 7 Oct 98 15:27:15 EDT Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <361BC0BA.9A421BA@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 15:27:54 -0400 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.35 i686) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Giles Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Advantages of DSP/Mwave modem vs. PC Card References: <01bdf226$f73cadf0$01646464@monster-nt4> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I believe the DSP modem in the 600 is comparable to the 770 so the same comments should apply. Personally, I've been happy with the performance of the 600's internal modem, and I've had a 770 previously. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 15:38:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA25557 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03338; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:34:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03065; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:34:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.algonet.se (angel.algonet.se [194.213.74.112]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03036; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:34:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3782 invoked from network); 7 Oct 1998 19:34:37 -0000 Received: from sdu186-74.ppp.algonet.se (HELO helsod) (195.163.74.186) by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 7 Oct 1998 19:34:37 -0000 Message-ID: <000001bdf229$85ce1b60$ba4aa3c3@helsod> From: "Peter Soderholm" To: Subject: SV: Advantages of DSP/Mwave modem vs. PC Card Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:31:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: The real advantage with MWave is sound. Since i play the guitar and such = I have tried to use the computer for some musical recording, using it as a scetchpad, similar to the way = you would use a four channel tape recorder for trying out ideas etc. On an earlier TP i had a PCMCIA sound card but = it was nothing compared to the MWave on my TP755. You could have up to 7 voices recorded and running in a loop = while recording the eight voice. (Like one drum beat, one base melody and some saxophone filling =E9tc., = pretty cool for improvising lead guitar to) On a normal sound card = (especially in laptops) you don't even get one voice duplex sometimes. = This means you can't listen to a recorded song and say record the lead = guitar. This is really the most minimal requirement for music work. You = must be able to hear what you just recorded. The bult in chorus and echo = could someties be useful too, but not so often since they where not like anything you can get with some of the music = programs.(with looong processing time though) But if your not into sound and music you could live without the MWave. = Personaly I never had any problems with my MWave modem, I think it = depends on your contries phone system if it agrees well with MWave or = not. The greatest problem with the bult in gadgets in laptops is uppgrading = when the technology evolves. I now have a TP760EL without MWave. I'm = considering getting a 56K PCMCIA modem, perhaps with network card=20 For my music experimenting I may get a used four channel tape recorder = instead. There is no wait time or processing time : - ) Regards=20 Peter Soderholm =20 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 15:43:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA25621 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04018; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:43:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:40:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03631; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:40:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03592; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA23325 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:39:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:39:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TPALL] Bypassing BIOS password easy In-Reply-To: <199810071909.PAA09176@mail.binghamton.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Ken wrote: > Many people quoted the manual that says, "you will have to take it to IBM > for servicing." But one person referred to the fact that you just have to > short a jumper to bypass the password. > > I found it disturbing how (before I even bought my TP) I found the one > manual on the web that explains that only IBM can bypass the BIOS password, > and shortly found the other manual that explains precisely how to bypass > the BIOS password. Not very good security if anyone in the world can > download the manual that explains the trick. Does this jumper reset the power-on password, or the supervisor password? I thought erasing the supervisor password involved removing the system board, tossing it in the trash, and replacing it with a new board? I would think the power-on password is just to prevent casual acquaintances from turning on the computer without you being there. The supervisor password is intended to make the system less functional should a thief swipe it. And the hard drive password is there to protect your data. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 15:44:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA25638 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:44:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04132; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:43:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:41:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03784; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avana.net (skratchy.avana.net [205.245.133.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03749; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:40:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from skelley (atl1358.avana.net [206.229.96.138]) by avana.net (SM-98/Avana) with SMTP id PAA31079 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:40:34 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981007154052.00716dfc@pop.avana.net> X-Sender: scottk@pop.avana.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 15:40:52 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Scott Kelley Subject: Re: [TPALL] Bypassing BIOS password easy In-Reply-To: <199810071909.PAA09176@mail.binghamton.edu> References: <3.0.3.32.19981007090247.007270c4@pop.avana.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: >Anyway, see if you can find the Hardware Maintenance Manual for the 385XD >on IBM's site. The one for the 770 explains exactly where the jumper is, Thank you. If Comp-USA can't fix it, with your help, I found the page I need on IBM's site. That is kinda scary isn't it. Cheers and thanks to everyone. Scott Kelley Lead Programmer, H2 Technologies scottk@avana.net Atlanta, GA Check out my home page : http://www.avana.net/~scottk "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" - Elanor Roosevelt "Character is doing the right thing, even when no one is looking" - Unknown "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... until you can find a rock." - Whoever writes funny bumperstickers From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 15:48:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA25688 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04707; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:45:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04253; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:44:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avana.net (skratchy.avana.net [205.245.133.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04183; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:44:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from skelley (atl1358.avana.net [206.229.96.138]) by avana.net (SM-98/Avana) with SMTP id PAA31556 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:44:20 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981007154454.0071878c@pop.avana.net> X-Sender: scottk@pop.avana.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 15:44:54 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Scott Kelley Subject: MIDI and The TP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: If I get my password problem worked out, one of the things I want to do with the Laptop is use it as a MIDI controler on the road. Anyone know of MIDI devices for the 385XD TP? Scott Scott Kelley Lead Programmer, H2 Technologies scottk@avana.net Atlanta, GA Check out my home page : http://www.avana.net/~scottk "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" - Elanor Roosevelt "Character is doing the right thing, even when no one is looking" - Unknown "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... until you can find a rock." - Whoever writes funny bumperstickers From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 15:57:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA25819 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:57:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05674; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:53:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05367; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:53:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avana.net (skratchy.avana.net [205.245.133.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05336; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:53:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from skelley (atl1358.avana.net [206.229.96.138]) by avana.net (SM-98/Avana) with SMTP id PAA00087 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:53:23 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981007155452.006faa7c@pop.avana.net> X-Sender: scottk@pop.avana.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 15:54:52 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Scott Kelley Subject: Re: [TPALL] Bypassing BIOS password easy In-Reply-To: References: <199810071909.PAA09176@mail.binghamton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: >Does this jumper reset the power-on password, or the >supervisor password? I thought erasing the supervisor >password involved removing the system board, tossing it in the >trash, and replacing it with a new board? Actually, when I found the page, it looks like just placing a Scredriver across two terminals and booting up. I think the Sup password is worse like you said. >I would think the power-on password is just to prevent casual >acquaintances from turning on the computer without you being >there. The supervisor password is intended to make the system >less functional should a thief swipe it. And the hard drive >password is there to protect your data. All of that sounds correct. Scott Kelley Lead Programmer, H2 Technologies scottk@avana.net Atlanta, GA Check out my home page : http://www.avana.net/~scottk "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" - Elanor Roosevelt "Character is doing the right thing, even when no one is looking" - Unknown "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... until you can find a rock." - Whoever writes funny bumperstickers From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 16:01:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA25878 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:01:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06465; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:01:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:58:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05802; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:58:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05775; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:57:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (130.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.130]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id PAA25026; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:56:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361BC76C.6BABDFB3@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 15:56:28 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Bell CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Advantages of DSP/Mwave modem vs. PC Card References: <199810070823.BAA03217@ladybug.M2_BLDG> <3.0.1.32.19981007133918.0069f6d8@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Mark.. the 770 split the modem DSP off from the sound.. so the 'new' mwave, aside from being a faster cpu also only needs to deal with modem issues and not modem and sound.. it is a vast improvement over the older mwave.. the advantage of a pcmcia solution is obvious, i think.. the life of the TP-770 might be a lot longer than the life of the currently 'hot' modem technology.. while the mwave is programmable (update able, call it whatever you like) who knows what will be available next year.. Mark Bell wrote: > > At 12:08 PM 10/7/98 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: > >Sereella.. > >IBM made a line of non-mwave macines.. > >lower cost is the reason.. > >also, for those who want a modem, the pcmcia slots should suffice.. > >the plus is you get whatever you want and don't have the uncertainty of > the DSP > >modem, AND in the 760, the DSP was too slow for SB and full speed modem at > the > >same time.. > >these days a non DSM machine is better for some users.. > > So, in actuality, what are the advantages/disadvantages of using a PC Card > modem > with a DSP equipped 770 series machine? I used a 760C before, so I know the > problems > I had back then (stepping down connect speeds and/or disabling sound, > etc...). > I have an extra Megahertz (USR/3Com) 56k PC Card Xjack modem (X2/V.90). If > there > is an inherently visible advantage of using this PC Card modem over the > internal DSP > powered unit, I will use it, but it is much more convenient to use the > included > modem with the 770's I use and deploy to fellow consultants. So far, it > seems to work > as promised, and connects have been acceptable. > > ------------------------------------------------- > Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting > 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 > Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net > ------------------------------------------------- > Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic > RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. > Network and System consultation and installation > -------------------------------------------------- -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 16:09:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA25986 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:09:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07202; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:08:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:06:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06911; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06899; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:06:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (130.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.130]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id QAA28490; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361BC997.AAC3644D@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 16:05:43 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] References: <199810071810.LAA07854@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul.. Paul Khoury wrote: > > On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 13:26:38 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > > >Rich.. > >Do you really think replacing the HDD electronics will bypass the HDD > >password.. > > > >i can test for that idea.. :-) > > > >however, common word is there is no way to get the data off the drive > >without the password.. period.. > > > >now all i need is the t-2 torx driver to swap electronics on a HDD.. > >:-) > > They sell the small torx at Home Depot. I used it so replace the drive's electronics on my 720MB > HD, because my previous one failed. HMM.. home depot, huh.. that torx has to be a t-3, which is pretty small.. > > Unfortunately, I can't get my data off now. probably due to the defect list being wrong and also possibly the drive serial number not agreeing or both..?? > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com NOTE: my other e-mail is down for the day.. cable problems.. use penzance@icanect.net for e-mail and put my name in the subject line please.. :-) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 18:23:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA28123 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:23:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18081; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:19:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17863; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:19:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send1e.yahoomail.com (send1e.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17851; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:19:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19981007221642.10463.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Received: from [205.134.244.157] by send1e; Wed, 07 Oct 1998 15:16:42 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:16:42 -0700 (PDT) From: H Doan Subject: Trackpoint caps To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: I need to buy some more caps for my trackpoint pointing device. I went to IBM website but the links is dead. Any clues on where to buy the caps.. Also, do they have spongy caps like the Toshiba's that I can use. The red IBM caps are kinda scratchy on my fingers. Thanks. H D _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 18:26:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA28179 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18316; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:24:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18132; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:24:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.eclipse.net (root@mail.eclipse.net [207.207.192.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18120; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:24:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cnj1-03-149.eclipse.net (cnj1-03-149.eclipse.net [207.207.243.149]) by mail.eclipse.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA03603 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:24:07 -0400 (EDT) From: mdash@plexsys.com (Michael Scheer) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: archive? Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 22:27:28 GMT Organization: Plexus Systems, Inc. Reply-To: mdash@plexsys.com Message-ID: <361beac0.277739127@mail.eclipse.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: Is this list archived anywhere? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 19:17:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA28763 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:17:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13087; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:02:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12767; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:02:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12700; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:02:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA23952 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:02:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:02:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Passwords In-Reply-To: <199810071812.LAA08066@stevie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > > Speaking of which, too bad they don't make notebooks with > clear covers so you can see everything that goes on > inside! Kinda like the iMac? :-) Plastic is not the strongest material to be making notebook cases out of (they are cheap and light though). Restricting the design specs to transparent plastics would probably result in heavier/larger notebooks, or more fragile notebooks. Already, some manufacturers are abandoning the "cheap" aspect of plastics in favor of stiffer and stronger lightweight metals like magnesium (don't get it wet! :-). -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 19:18:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA28783 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:18:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12581; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:57:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12198; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:57:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12122; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p13.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.82]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA01961; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810072057.NAA01961@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Scott Kelley" Date: Wed, 07 Oct 98 13:55:09 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MIDI and The TP List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 15:44:54 -0400, Scott Kelley wrote: >If I get my password problem worked out, one of the things I want to do >with the Laptop is use it as a MIDI controler on the road. Anyone know of >MIDI devices for the 385XD TP? With an optional dongle, the 3D PCMCIA sound card (the one with Mwave). I have it, and wish I had that extra dongle, because a friend of mine has a MIDI studio. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 21:08:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA29889 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:08:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12590; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:01:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:57:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12162; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:57:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAD (smtp4.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12013; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:55:23 -0400 Sender: brownac@csi.com Received: from sod2038.ohsu.edu (sf-dnpqi-049.compuserve.net [206.175.227.49]) by hil-img-ims-5.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id QAA19857 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:54:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:54:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810072054.QAA19857@hil-img-ims-5.compuserve.com> X-Sender: brownac@pop.site1.csi.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: AC Brown Subject: Re: MIDI and The TP List-Unsubscribe: E-MU makes a good Midi PCMCIA card, the EMU8710, though it is somewhat expensive (about $300, if I recall correctly). It can be ordered from the E-MU web site. I've used the card with both a TP 755CD and a TP 560, and it works well with both. AC Brown At 15:44 98/10/07 -0400, you wrote: >If I get my password problem worked out, one of the things I want to do >with the Laptop is use it as a MIDI controler on the road. Anyone know of >MIDI devices for the 385XD TP? > >Scott >Scott Kelley Lead Programmer, H2 Technologies >scottk@avana.net Atlanta, GA From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 21:11:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA29923 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:11:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24194; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:11:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:08:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24019; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:08:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24006; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:08:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA01576; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:08:04 -1000 Message-ID: <000401bdf258$218eea60$db1a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "H Doan" , Subject: Re: Trackpoint caps Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 20:08:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >I need to buy some more caps for my trackpoint pointing device. I went >to IBM website but the links is dead. Eh? Try http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/EMON-3MFM6Y.html (Titled "TP General - How to order trackpoint caps".) BTW, I ordered 4 caps recently - got a pretty large box from IBM, containing two smaller boxes and lot of packing material. Each of the smaller boxes contained a sealed plastic bag, in which was another carefully sealed box, in which was a bag, in which were 2 caps. When I was done unpacking I wondered if I was supposed to have worn a radiation suit for the process. As for your question about the catstongue texture - I personally think it is a huge improvement over smooth caps (such as on the Micron I also use regularly), but if you don't like it you can always sand it off with fine sandpaper or emery board. (Don't do this *on* the keyboard:-) - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 21:20:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA00105 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:19:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12882; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:03:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:01:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12626; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:01:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12539; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p13.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.82]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA02331; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810072100.OAA02331@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 07 Oct 98 13:57:50 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] List-Unsubscribe: >> They sell the small torx at Home Depot. I used it so replace the drive's electronics on my 720MB >> HD, because my previous one failed. >HMM.. home depot, huh.. >that torx has to be a t-3, which is pretty small.. I used a T-6 to take off the drive electronics for my 701's HD (to recover my data, at least what I THINK I need). I don't know where to get something smaller, but I'd like to have ones that are smaller, however. > >> >> Unfortunately, I can't get my data off now. > >probably due to the defect list being wrong and also possibly the drive >serial number not agreeing or both..?? Nope. I got it done. Only 1 partition I couldn't recover (not without Linux at least), but that's that old problem I mentioned on the list over a year ago. The partition mapping got screwed up. Now I have this new drive I'm installing, until I get the 2.1GB or the 701, whichever comes first. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 21:42:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA00319 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:42:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25551; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:13:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:10:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25157; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:10:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25108; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:09:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p13.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.82]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA07854; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810071810.LAA07854@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" Date: Wed, 07 Oct 98 11:08:05 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 13:26:38 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: >Rich.. >Do you really think replacing the HDD electronics will bypass the HDD >password.. > >i can test for that idea.. :-) > >however, common word is there is no way to get the data off the drive >without the password.. period.. > >now all i need is the t-2 torx driver to swap electronics on a HDD.. >:-) They sell the small torx at Home Depot. I used it so replace the drive's electronics on my 720MB HD, because my previous one failed. Unfortunately, I can't get my data off now. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 21:43:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA00331 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:43:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25443; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:12:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:09:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25076; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:09:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24970; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:07:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p13.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.82]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA07563; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810071808.LAA07563@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Chris Schumann" Date: Wed, 07 Oct 98 11:06:11 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Passwords List-Unsubscribe: >It "should" be possible to desolder the chip that holds the password and >replace it, but depending on how determined the IBM drive engineer was, >that chip could very well be inside the disk's seal, so you'd need a >cleanroom environment to perform the operation. IBM would probably not do >it because of the cost, and not many of us have cleanrooms in our >workshops. > But not many of us (except myself) take apart HDs. >A "cheaper" method (for IBM anyway), would be to make a machine that >guesses passwords. Put on the drive and let it run for a few days, clear >the password and return it as fixed or sell as refurbished. > Guess the password? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 21:43:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA00342 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:43:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14100; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:05:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:03:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13763; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:03:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13681; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (60.p1.Ascend13.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.169.188]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id MAA24183; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:02:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361B90C5.BB64FEBB@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 12:03:17 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Hultquist CC: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: TP 600 SelectaBase References: <002a01bdf1fa$f9a99340$51bdddcf@ssh.servicemetrics.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: don't have one, normally, these use the ac adapter you have and send the power to the TP.. additional power is supplied by the selectadock when that is used.. note: i have never seen a selectabase 600 .. Steve Hultquist wrote: > Does anyone have one of these puppies? Do they come with a power supply, or > do I need to buy an additional power supply to plug into it? > -- > Steve Hultquist, VP Network Services Service Metrics, Inc. > the best measure of performance +1.303.381.0888 Boulder, Colorado > mailto:ssh@servicemetrics.com http://www.servicemetrics.com/ -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 21:56:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA00567 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:56:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22647; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:37:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:34:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22307; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:34:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22293; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (130.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.130]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id NAA28960; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:34:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361BA610.63A1C755@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 13:34:08 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Schumann CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Passwords References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Chris.. Chris Schumann wrote: > > It's the drive electronics, alright. A new drive can be used, or a brand > with a different or non-existent password scheme (like Toshiba). hmm.. never tried the password thing with a trashiba HDD.. > > ThinkPads do not force you to use drives with this capability, thankfully. > > It "should" be possible to desolder the chip that holds the password and > replace it, but depending on how determined the IBM drive engineer was, > that chip could very well be inside the disk's seal, so you'd need a > cleanroom environment to perform the operation. IBM would probably not do > it because of the cost, and not many of us have cleanrooms in our > workshops. you don't NEED a cleanroom.. just a semiclean environment.. (i have a drive i opened LONG ago, i glued a clear plastic cover over the disc's and head actuator.. and i run it from time to time to demonstrate how these things work) > > A "cheaper" method (for IBM anyway), would be to make a machine that > guesses passwords. Put on the drive and let it run for a few days, clear > the password and return it as fixed or sell as refurbished. IBM does not need THAT kind of income. It was once mentioned to me that the actual 'cost' for a new HDD was $40.. i suppose that does not take into account ramping up production and all THAT entails, just the cost to put a HDD in your hand.. so IBM won't mess with that sort of thing.. the best suggestion so far from this discussion has been the swap the electronics thing, but i'll bet it won't work.. i THINK each HDD has HDD specific data written to the electronics package and swapping will carry the wrong data with it for the target HDD.. > > Chris Schumann -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 21:58:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA00602 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12309; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:49:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11930; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail3.noc.netcom.net (mail3.noc.netcom.net [204.31.1.151]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11625; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denver.servicemetrics.com (denver.servicemetrics.com [207.221.189.100]) by mail3.noc.netcom.net (8.9.1/8.9.1/(NETCOM v2.00)) with SMTP id IAA01687; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ssh by denver.servicemetrics.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA01910; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:42:44 -0600 From: "Steve Hultquist" To: "Adam Quantrill" , "Curtis B. Wayne" , "Matthew Tebbens" Cc: Subject: RE: Re[2]: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:46:42 -0600 Message-ID: <003a01bdf209$ae1856a0$51bdddcf@ssh.servicemetrics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 List-Unsubscribe: Good luck. A number of folks on this list have tried that, and the disk reads all 0s. There appears to be some interaction between the disk controller and the disk that allows the password to effectively encrypt the data (although I agree that the data isn't really encrypted). > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Quantrill [mailto:aquantrill@scigen.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 10:35 AM > To: Curtis B. Wayne; Matthew Tebbens > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re[2]: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] > > > I can't believe that all the data on the hard disk is encrypted > when you set the hard disk password. It must therefore be in the > clear and therefor readable on a different computer that ignores > the password. > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator > _________________________________ > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] > Author: MIME:Matthew Tebbens at INTERNET > Date: 07/10/98 16:25 > > > > > Hmmm thats an idea, re-flash with same/newer bios !? > > > On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Curtis B. Wayne wrote: > > > [NON-Text Body part not included] > > Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 11:10:15 -0400 From: Curtis B. Wayne > > To: Alban Gerd Kellerbauer Subject: > Re: Passwords. > > This from one of our thinkpad user guides: > > re: Power-on Password > > "Do Not Forget Your Password! > > If you have forgotten your power-on password, you cannot reset > it. You have to take the computer to an IBM authorized reseller > or IBM marketing representative to have the password canceled. > Proof of purchase is required, and an additional charge might be > required for this purchase." > > from another 'puter's guide: > > re: Hard-Disk Password > > " If you forget your hard-disk password, there is no way to reset > the password or recover data in the hard disk drive. Neither IBM > nor an IBM authorized dealer can make the hard disk drive usable." > > I suggest you return the computer to the seller and have THEM > undertake this time and expense. > > I believe the BIOS must be flashed for the power-on password, and > possibly the HDD is toast if the password is that kind. > > Nice to know how to ruin someone's day with just a few keystrokes. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > Harston > Cambridge > CB2 5NH > United Kingdom http://www.generics.co.uk > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 21:58:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA00610 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:58:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17688; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:41:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:38:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17289; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.3.78]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17183; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:37:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earth (hseaman@earth.execpc.com [169.207.16.1]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.9.0) id LAA02938; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:37:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:37:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Harry Seaman X-Sender: hseaman@earth To: Steve Hultquist cc: Adam Quantrill , "Curtis B. Wayne" , Matthew Tebbens , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Re[2]: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] In-Reply-To: <003a01bdf209$ae1856a0$51bdddcf@ssh.servicemetrics.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Do you suppose it might work to replace the circuit board on the "encrypted" hard disk with one from a similar, non-encrypted model? It's not hard to remove the board. best regards, harry seaman On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Steve Hultquist wrote: > Good luck. A number of folks on this list have tried that, and the disk > reads all 0s. There appears to be some interaction between the disk > controller and the disk that allows the password to effectively encrypt the > data (although I agree that the data isn't really encrypted). > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Adam Quantrill [mailto:aquantrill@scigen.co.uk] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 10:35 AM > > To: Curtis B. Wayne; Matthew Tebbens > > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Re[2]: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] > > > > > > I can't believe that all the data on the hard disk is encrypted > > when you set the hard disk password. It must therefore be in the > > clear and therefor readable on a different computer that ignores > > the password. > > > > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator > > _________________________________ > > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] > > Author: MIME:Matthew Tebbens at INTERNET > > Date: 07/10/98 16:25 > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm thats an idea, re-flash with same/newer bios !? > > > > > > On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Curtis B. Wayne wrote: > > > > > > [NON-Text Body part not included] > > > > Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 11:10:15 -0400 From: Curtis B. Wayne > > > > To: Alban Gerd Kellerbauer Subject: > > Re: Passwords. > > > > This from one of our thinkpad user guides: > > > > re: Power-on Password > > > > "Do Not Forget Your Password! > > > > If you have forgotten your power-on password, you cannot reset > > it. You have to take the computer to an IBM authorized reseller > > or IBM marketing representative to have the password canceled. > > Proof of purchase is required, and an additional charge might be > > required for this purchase." > > > > from another 'puter's guide: > > > > re: Hard-Disk Password > > > > " If you forget your hard-disk password, there is no way to reset > > the password or recover data in the hard disk drive. Neither IBM > > nor an IBM authorized dealer can make the hard disk drive usable." > > > > I suggest you return the computer to the seller and have THEM > > undertake this time and expense. > > > > I believe the BIOS must be flashed for the power-on password, and > > possibly the HDD is toast if the password is that kind. > > > > Nice to know how to ruin someone's day with just a few keystrokes. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > > Harston > > Cambridge > > CB2 5NH > > United Kingdom http://www.generics.co.uk > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 22:00:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA00644 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16831; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:33:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:31:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16368; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgate.generics.co.uk (mailgate.generics.co.uk [194.216.39.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16333; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:30:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scigen.co.uk (scigen) by mailgate.generics.co.uk (5.0/PIPEX simple 1.26) id AA26751; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:57:46 +0000 Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk by scigen.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27049; Wed, 7 Oct 98 16:46:43 BST Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:51:37 +0000 To: Matthew Tebbens Cc: "Curtis B. Wayne" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re[4]: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: My vote is that they encrypt the partition table=2E You would only have=20= to reinstate a partition table in the clear to read the data with no=20= problems=2E=20= ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Fwd: Re: Passwords=2E] Author: MIME:Matthew Tebbens at INTERNET Date: 07/10/98 16:45 No all the data on the HD is NOT encrypted when you set the HD password=2E BUT, its probably held on the HD electronics somewhere=2E I don't think IBM=20= would overlook someone takeing the HD and putting it in a new system=2E On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Adam Quantrill wrote: > I can't believe that all the data on the hard disk is encrypted when you=20= set the hard disk password=2E It must therefore be in the clear and therefor=20= readable on a different computer that ignores the password=2E > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator=20= _________________________________ > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Passwords=2E] > Author: MIME:Matthew Tebbens at INTERNET=20= > Date: 07/10/98 16:25 > > > > > Hmmm thats an idea, re-flash with same/newer bios !?=20= > > > On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Curtis B=2E Wayne wrote: > > > [NON-Text Body part not included] > > Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 11:10:15 -0400 From: Curtis B=2E Wayne=20= > To: Alban Gerd Kellerbauer Subject: Re:=20= Passwords=2E > > This from one of our thinkpad user guides:=20= > > re: Power-on Password > > "Do Not Forget Your Password! > > If you have forgotten your power-on password, you cannot reset it=2E You=20= have to take the computer to an IBM authorized reseller or IBM marketing=20= representative to have the password canceled=2E Proof of purchase is required,=20= and an additional charge might be required for this purchase=2E"=20= > > from another 'puter's guide: > > re: Hard-Disk Password > > " If you forget your hard-disk password, there is no way to reset the=20= password or recover data in the hard disk drive=2E Neither IBM nor an IBM=20= authorized dealer can make the hard disk drive usable=2E" > > I suggest you return the computer to the seller and have THEM undertake=20= this time and expense=2E > > I believe the BIOS must be flashed for the power-on password, and=20= possibly the HDD is toast if the password is that kind=2E > > Nice to know how to ruin someone's day with just a few keystrokes=2E=20= > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200=20= > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201=20= > Harston > Cambridge > CB2 5NH > United Kingdom http://www=2Egenerics=2Eco=2Euk > ------------------------------------------------------------=20= > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom http://www=2Egenerics=2Eco=2Euk ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 22:47:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA01254 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:47:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16265; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:30:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:26:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15815; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15796; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:26:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256696.005A872C ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:28:48 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: Rich_Chong@mail.share.org cc: aquantrill@scigen.co.uk, wapcarc@ibm.net, matthew@tebbens.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <86256696.0059EFE0.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:28:03 -0500 Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Okay, well actually, the system BIOS does need to be aware of that harddrive password capability, so there is some interaction, but the actual locking mechanism is embedded into the harddrive. Short of some secret backdoor or reset mechanism, replacing the harddrive electronics PCB is the only way to recover the data. Rich >I can't believe that all the data on the hard disk is encrypted when you set the hard disk password. It must therefore be in the clear and therefor readable on a different computer that ignores the password. The data isn't encrypted. The hard disk password is actually a function of the harddrive's firmware, Not the PC's BIOS. The hard drive won't give the data out until the password is properly passed to it. Rich From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 7 22:58:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA01347 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:58:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28898; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:55:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28708; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:55:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from prioritysolutions.com (prioritysolutions.com [206.155.246.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28690; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:55:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mycroft (host13.psnet.net [206.155.246.163]) by prioritysolutions.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id T5G7D4P8; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:56:52 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Robert W. King" To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" , "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" Subject: Torx drivers Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:46:56 -0500 Message-ID: <000901bdf265$e9b7d6c0$0101c0a8@mycroft> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199810071810.LAA07854@stevie.loop.com> List-Unsubscribe: Hi Guys! You can find an assortment of Torx drivers under the Craftsman label at your friendly neighborhood Sears store. They're less than $2 a piece -- and Sears will replace it free if you ever break it! -- Robert W. King I'm an ingenieur, NOT a bloody locomotive driver! SnailNet: 19023 TV Tower Rd, Winslow, Arkansas 72959 BellNet: 501-634-2086 InterNet: robtking@prioritysolutions.com http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/k/i/n/Robert-W-King/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 00:08:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA02191 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:08:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01625; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:03:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01481; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:03:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from torgo.punk.net (torgo.punk.net [207.114.150.54]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01469; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:03:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sparker@localhost) by torgo.punk.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA12550; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:10:23 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:10:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: "John H. Kim" cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Passwords In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, John H. Kim wrote: > Already, some manufacturers are abandoning the "cheap" aspect > of plastics in favor of stiffer and stronger lightweight > metals like magnesium (don't get it wet! :-). Why not? About all you'd have is wet magnesium. I suppose it would corrode sloghtly faster than non-wet magnesium, but either way it is pretty boring.. =) Magnesium for notebooks is not new either.. Well, not exactly notebooks. There are several junker GRiD laptops at work with magnesium cases. Even my NeXT cubes are all magnesium cased. =) Steve From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 00:44:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA02511 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:44:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02814; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:42:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:40:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02635; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:40:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02621; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:39:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p03.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.72]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA08099; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810080440.VAA08099@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "robtking@prioritysolutions.com" Date: Wed, 07 Oct 98 21:37:59 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Torx drivers List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:46:56 -0500, Robert W. King wrote: >Hi Guys! > >You can find an assortment of Torx drivers under the Craftsman label at your >friendly neighborhood Sears store. They're less than $2 a piece -- and Sears >will replace it free if you ever break it! Sure beats Home Depot. They have the same guarantee, but I find their tools kinda cheaply made, plus they don't come that small. Since I work in the mall, I could finally get some tomorrow. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 00:45:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA02523 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:45:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02874; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:43:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:40:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02689; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:40:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02669; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p03.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.72]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA08197; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810080441.VAA08197@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "mdash@plexsys.com" Date: Wed, 07 Oct 98 21:38:43 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: archive? List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 22:27:28 GMT, Michael Scheer wrote: >Is this list archived anywhere? > On my machine, yes. Outside-user-accessable? No, or not yet for that matter. Unless someone could help me setup Lotus Domino for OS/2... =) -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 01:05:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA02770 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 01:05:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03284; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:51:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:48:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03116; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:48:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03104; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:48:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p03.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.72]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA09088; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810080448.VAA09088@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "H Doan" Date: Wed, 07 Oct 98 21:46:04 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Trackpoint caps List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:16:42 -0700 (PDT), H Doan wrote: >I need to buy some more caps for my trackpoint pointing device. I went >to IBM website but the links is dead. > >Any clues on where to buy the caps.. Also, do they have spongy caps >like the Toshiba's that I can use. The red IBM caps are kinda scratchy >on my fingers. There was a problem with the sulfate (or some material) messing up the calibration, so they only sell the newer ones (like on the 701). Regardless, I'd like to know where I can get some period! -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 01:05:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA02779 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 01:05:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03385; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:53:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:49:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03174; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:49:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03162; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:49:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p03.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.72]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA09212; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810080450.VAA09212@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "David Ross" Date: Wed, 07 Oct 98 21:47:27 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Trackpoint caps List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 7 Oct 1998 20:08:14 -0500, David Ross wrote: >>I need to buy some more caps for my trackpoint pointing device. I went >>to IBM website but the links is dead. > > >Eh? Try http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/EMON-3MFM6Y.html (Titled >"TP General - How to order trackpoint caps".) BTW, I ordered 4 caps recently - got a pretty large box >from IBM, containing two >smaller boxes >and lot of packing material. Each of the smaller boxes contained a sealed >plastic bag, in which was another carefully sealed box, in which was a bag, >in which were 2 caps. When I was done unpacking I wondered if I was supposed to have worn a radiation suit for the process. > Yeah, I've seen that done for plastic memory and PCMCIA covers when I lose them, or they get broken. Talk about overdone! But they probably don't want anything to happen, even if it's a piece of plastic. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 03:24:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA04176 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:24:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08091; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:21:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA07998; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:21:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.teleport.com (smtp3.teleport.com [192.108.254.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA07982; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21046 invoked from network); 8 Oct 1998 07:21:25 -0000 Received: from usertest.teleport.com (HELO user2.teleport.com) (pccare@192.108.254.19) by smtp3.teleport.com with SMTP; 8 Oct 1998 07:21:25 -0000 Received: (from pccare@localhost) by user2.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA00483; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:21:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick West To: Scott Kelley cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TPALL] Bypassing BIOS password easy In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19981007154052.00716dfc@pop.avana.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Scott Kelley wrote: > with your help, I found the page I > need on IBM's site. That is kinda scary isn't it. Cheers and thanks to Manual was done as IBM partner's tech support cd and the book manager folks wanting things to show off their new toy (bookmanager to HTTP while you wait server) grabbed tons of stuff to put on the web and started pushing its toy/tool everywhere. You see the end result. Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 03:29:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA04213 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:29:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08325; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:27:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:26:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08221; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:26:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08208; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA27899 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:26:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:26:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Passwords In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Steve Parker wrote: > On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, John H. Kim wrote: > > Already, some manufacturers are abandoning the "cheap" aspect > > of plastics in favor of stiffer and stronger lightweight > > metals like magnesium (don't get it wet! :-). > > Why not? About all you'd have is wet magnesium. I suppose it would > corrode sloghtly faster than non-wet magnesium, but either way it is > pretty boring.. =) It's a chemistry joke. Pure magnesium burns like a roman candle if you get it wet. In fact, those super-bright fireworks which light up the night sky and make it look almost like day? Those are magnesium shells. It'll also burn in air, but water is so much denser that a lot more oxygen ends up contacting the magnesium. More oxygen = more vigorous burning. (Magnesium is so volatile, it will actually strip the oxygen off H2O, instead of having to wait for the stray OH- ion to pass by.) Laptop cases are made of (stable) magnesium alloys, not pure magnesium. Hence the joke. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 03:49:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA04350 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:49:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09214; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:46:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09130; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09099; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.ege.edu.tr (tk-os2.ege.edu.tr [155.223.1.200]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA02534 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:47:24 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199810080647.JAA02534@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 10:45:44 -0100 (TUR) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <199810071909.PAA09176@mail.binghamton.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TPALL] Bypassing BIOS password easy List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >I found it disturbing how (before I even bought my TP) I found the one >manual on the web that explains that only IBM can bypass the BIOS password, I dont know if anyone knows IBM's motto on security, but it goes something like, "there is no security if there is no *physical* security." So, if someone has access to your laptop, they will find a way "in" sooner of later.. -turgut - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNhyl6DJjYwErN0xZAQGw8QP5ATGVKKMcvDgZv3H90ccUCThz0VnGkN3m B0F6uSVOFdpyE1JPz8kb7QGDlZdktD0FDYsYLWFe4mGnwlALjixVDQE8vSv1gwoa iBFF1Th0VlzwXtYwWHT4ZPLKjCZMbnb/8NES2VeN2R7UvT6QgJ3IUvezdkKAxILw O1Ju+Lkb7NU= =utTM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 03:59:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA04439 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:59:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09601; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:57:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:56:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09489; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aludra.usc.edu (aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.184]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09472; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:56:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sterni@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id AAA01730 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:56:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: aludra.usc.edu: sterni owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:56:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "John W. Sterni" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Passwords (chemistry and magnesium) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Seriously! Wow I didn't know that. I remember playing with magnesium strips in Chem class and igniting them way back when. I never thought that magnesium reacted that violently with water. Man... good I never put out the flame with good ole water =). Humm.. I think I'll take a walk over to the Chem supply room tomorrow. -john ----------------------------------------------- John W. Sterni -- Mariah Carey fan Always and Forever -- plus I like Ally McBeal alot too! NASA Far West RTTC -- University of Southern California Mechanical Engineer and Computer Guru sterni@usc.edu -- http://www-scf.usc.edu/~sterni ----------------------------------------------- On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, John H. Kim wrote: > On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Steve Parker wrote: > > > On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, John H. Kim wrote: > > > Already, some manufacturers are abandoning the "cheap" aspect > > > of plastics in favor of stiffer and stronger lightweight > > > metals like magnesium (don't get it wet! :-). > > > > Why not? About all you'd have is wet magnesium. I suppose it would > > corrode sloghtly faster than non-wet magnesium, but either way it is > > pretty boring.. =) > > It's a chemistry joke. Pure magnesium burns like a roman > candle if you get it wet. In fact, those super-bright > fireworks which light up the night sky and make it look almost > like day? Those are magnesium shells. It'll also burn in > air, but water is so much denser that a lot more oxygen ends > up contacting the magnesium. More oxygen = more vigorous > burning. (Magnesium is so volatile, it will actually strip > the oxygen off H2O, instead of having to wait for the stray > OH- ion to pass by.) > > Laptop cases are made of (stable) magnesium alloys, not pure > magnesium. Hence the joke. > > -- > John H. Kim > kim@stormhaven.org > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 06:07:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA05272 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 06:07:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20131; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 06:05:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 06:04:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20033; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 06:04:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.az.com (lucy.az.com [204.201.18.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20021; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 06:04:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seawesta-83.az.com (seawesta-83.az.com [204.201.18.83]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA06688 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:04:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <199810081004.DAA06688@www.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Thu, 08 Oct 98 03:14:35 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Plastic and thinkpads List-Unsubscribe: Hello, All this talk about plastic makes me wonder about my 365XD. I have a couple things on it I wouldn't mind getting fixed if it's cheap. 1)I have a spring broken on the left hand opening clasp/switch. Can these springs be found at a good hardware store or are they special springs? 2) The right hand side opening clasp/switch has a bent tabby thing that I have to use a thin piece of material to push to the right a bit before it'll slide through it's hole in the keyboard. Are these available for easy pop in/pop out replacement or does the whole bottom case have to be replaced?? =\ I can live with #2, but #1 prevents me from going into suspend (well it does, but it just un-suspends w/o warning) so I use hibernate. Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 08:42:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA06149 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:42:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24950; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:40:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:37:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24795; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:37:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24783; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:37:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from juno.com ([12.68.146.195]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19981008123716.BOBJ17049@juno.com> for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:37:16 +0000 Message-ID: <361CB1F1.2ED31E7D@juno.com> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 08:37:06 -0400 From: TJH Reply-To: skygodtj@ayeteetee.net Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Mythical Animals X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 750 doesn't "see" modem >14.4K, want to use 28.8K Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi all, I have a problem with my 750CS Thinkpad(486/33, 8MB RAM). I'm running Win3.1, Phoenix Card Manger. The problem I'm having is that none of the app's I run can "see" the EigerLabs 28.8K Fax/Modem I want to use. Phoenix, and a coupla other PCMCIA Card Mangers configure the PCMCIA slot for COM4 (COM3 is rem'ed out of the win.ini file). PCMngr "sees" the Eiger28.8K card(and any other) in it's Card List, but Juno, Netscape, IE, none of these detect the 28.8K modem for use, says no modems detected. They see the 14.4K modem fine, each and every time. And it's not just the EigerLabs modem. I've also had no success using a NewMedia WinSurfer 28.8K or 33.6K modem too. It seems nothing over 14.4K will work. This leads me to believe there's something up about... maybe the BIOS not being able to run the PCMCIA ports that fast... something? Any ideas? Anyone seen this inability to run a modem faster than 14.4K in a 750 ThinkPad running W3.1? Thanks, TJ reply to: skygodtj@att.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 09:05:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA06309 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27074; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:05:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:03:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26903; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:03:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-out-0.tiac.net (mail-out-0.tiac.net [199.0.65.247]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26786; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:01:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-out-4.tiac.net (mail-out-4.tiac.net [199.0.65.16]) by mail-out-0.tiac.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10140 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:01:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ecottrell@Doble.com) Received: from ntmail.tiac.net (ntmail.doble.com [204.215.186.11]) by mail-out-4.tiac.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA21344 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:01:46 GMT (envelope-from ecottrell@Doble.com) Received: by ntmail.tiac.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BDF1F8.0543BA30@ntmail.tiac.net>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:40:17 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'Harry Seaman'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Re[2]: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:40:15 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I wonder if it is possible to reflash the firmware on the drive? 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com >---------- >From: Harry Seaman[SMTP:hseaman@execpc.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 12:37 PM >To: Steve Hultquist >Cc: Adam Quantrill; Curtis B. Wayne; Matthew Tebbens; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: RE: Re[2]: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] > >Do you suppose it might work to replace the circuit board on the >"encrypted" hard disk with one from a similar, non-encrypted model? It's >not hard to remove the board. > >best regards, harry seaman > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 09:46:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA06610 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:46:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28834; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:45:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:43:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28612; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:43:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28595; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:42:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:42:19 -0400 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-2.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id JAA19890 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:41:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361CC114.F9DCC16A@csc.com> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 08:41:40 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: TP600 Just Plain Dead References: <199810080647.JAA02534@home.egenet.com.tr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: One of my colleagues had a TP600 death occur this morning. He attempted to turn it on but it won't do anything. A small orange indicator light is on (in the row just under the LCD on the left). I believe it is the HD light (farthest one to the left). Pressing the hardware reset button turns off the indicator light, but flipping the power switch makes it come back on. Absolutely no other activity happens. Nothing appears on the screen, no fan noise, no HD noise. This occurs on battery or AC. We removed all removable hardware (HD, CD, battery) except the one memory chip and re-seated them to make sure they weren't loose. No effect. Anyone have any ideas of what else to try or what component might be failing? Thanks, Rob ------------------------------------------ Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob_bell@nospam@csi.com ------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 10:31:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA07037 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01605; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:31:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:28:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01428; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:28:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01416; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:28:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ursa-minor.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA23057; Thu, 8 Oct 98 10:27:56 EDT Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <361CCC11.BAABF55C@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 10:28:33 -0400 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.35 i686) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: 128MB DIMMs for TP600 and TP770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have heard mention of 128MB DIMMs for 600 and 770 machines. What manufacturer and part number are people using? Is it SDRAM or EDO? Thanks. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 10:39:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA07119 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02550; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:39:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:36:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02237; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02157; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:36:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256697.00506D0D ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:38:27 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: rbell1@csc.com cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <86256697.00504AC5.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:37:47 -0500 Subject: Re: TP600 Just Plain Dead Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Don't mess around. Call IBM Support first. (Just my opinion ;-) Rich From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 10:49:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA07226 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04670; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:48:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:45:09 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04295; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:45:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.0c-utkcs) id KAA29796 for dist-thinkpad; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:45:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12006; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p13.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.82]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA01821 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810072056.NAA01821@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 07 Oct 98 13:54:09 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TPALL: Extra HD FS maybe List-Unsubscribe: I might have either a 540 or 720MB HD for sale from my 701 in the future, if anyone's interested, because I'm upgrading a new 701 that I'm buying to 2.1GB, and my 750 to the same capacity, so I will be left with 1 or 2 extra drives. I'm open to any offers. Sorry to bother the list with this post (although this is a first for me). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 11:04:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07454 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:04:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09421; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:04:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:00:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07593; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07261; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:59:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA30780 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:59:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:59:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP600 Just Plain Dead In-Reply-To: <361CC114.F9DCC16A@csc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Rob Bell wrote: > One of my colleagues had a TP600 death occur this morning. He attempted > to turn it on but it won't do anything. A small orange indicator light > is on (in the row just under the LCD on the left). I believe it is the > HD light (farthest one to the left). Pressing the hardware reset button If it's the HD light, try removing the HD, and boot the system off a floppy. If that works, you have a dead hard drive. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 11:17:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07621 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:17:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13668; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:17:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:12:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12029; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:12:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11830; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:11:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from JES770@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id ITFVa02301; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:10:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <650dec10.361cd602@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:10:58 EDT To: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: 128MB DIMMs for TP600 and TP770 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 10/8/98 10:31:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu writes: > I have heard mention of 128MB DIMMs for 600 and 770 machines. What > manufacturer and part number are people using? Is it SDRAM or EDO? 128 SDRAM 11K1150 Checkout this site: http://www.cdce.com/ibm/770.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 11:24:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07748 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15966; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:24:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:19:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14367; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:19:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14246; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:18:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from JES770@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id PSLFa18750; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:18:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:18:09 EDT To: m_producer@yahoo.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Trackpoint caps Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 10/7/98 6:22:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, m_producer@yahoo.com writes: > I need to buy some more caps for my trackpoint pointing device. I went > to IBM website but the links is dead. > > Any clues on where to buy the caps.. Also, do they have spongy caps > like the Toshiba's that I can use. The red IBM caps are kinda scratchy > on my fingers. Check at: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/EMON-3MFM6Y.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 11:31:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07810 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17417; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:31:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:28:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17159; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:28:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17127; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA30998 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:28:49 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:28:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Passwords (chemistry and magnesium) In-Reply-To: <86256697.0050C21A.00@passnotes.share.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 8 Oct 1998 Rich_Chong@mail.share.org wrote: > > Sorry for continuing this tangent... but. I believe that the poster is > confusing Mg with Lithium (which is highly reactive with water). One of the > basic tests for Magnesium is to put the metal boiling water to see if it > evolves hydrogen. Mg wont burst into flames without an ignitor, and water > isn' t one. Hmm, I thought both metals burned in water... Mg builds up a protective layer of Magnesium Oxide, so it's more volatile if you cut it to expose the pure Mg underneath. I'll have to check on it later. Thanks for the reality check. ;-) -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 12:30:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA08565 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:30:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21299; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:30:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:27:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21077; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:27:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21057; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:27:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (139.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.139]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id MAA09429; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:26:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361CE7FD.FBE48F0B@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 12:27:41 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JES770@aol.com CC: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 128MB DIMMs for TP600 and TP770 References: <650dec10.361cd602@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have had 128meg parts available for over a month. these are available on my web site. JES770@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/8/98 10:31:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu writes: > > > I have heard mention of 128MB DIMMs for 600 and 770 machines. What > > manufacturer and part number are people using? Is it SDRAM or EDO? > > 128 SDRAM 11K1150 > > Checkout this site: http://www.cdce.com/ibm/770.html -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 12:36:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA08627 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21997; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:36:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:33:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21683; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:33:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21666; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (139.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.139]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id MAA11737; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:32:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361CE969.7C45DDBE@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 12:33:45 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Cottrell, Eric" CC: "'Harry Seaman'" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unlikely Cottrell, Eric wrote: > Hello, > > I wonder if it is possible to reflash the firmware on the drive? > > 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com > > >---------- > >From: Harry Seaman[SMTP:hseaman@execpc.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 12:37 PM > >To: Steve Hultquist > >Cc: Adam Quantrill; Curtis B. Wayne; Matthew Tebbens; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > >Subject: RE: Re[2]: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] > > > >Do you suppose it might work to replace the circuit board on the > >"encrypted" hard disk with one from a similar, non-encrypted model? It's > >not hard to remove the board. > > > >best regards, harry seaman > > > > -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 12:56:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA08912 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:56:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23574; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:56:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:53:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23370; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu (martigny.ai.mit.edu [18.43.1.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23356; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:53:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ravna.ai.mit.edu ([24.128.114.117] (may be forged)) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA08873; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:53:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:53:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:53:46 -0400 (EDT) From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 128MB DIMMs for TP600 and TP770 X-Mailer: Edwin [version 3.93, MIT Scheme Release 7.5a] List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 10:28:33 -0400 From: I Lee Hetherington I have heard mention of 128MB DIMMs for 600 and 770 machines. What manufacturer and part number are people using? Is it SDRAM or EDO? I just bought a Simple Technology STM-TPAD/128. It's SDRAM. Seems to work fine. Since you're at MIT, you can order these through NECX and get the MIT discount. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 13:04:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA08992 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25052; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:59:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23974; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:59:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23844; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:59:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256697.005D859E ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:01:30 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: ecottrell@Doble.com cc: hseaman@execpc.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <86256697.005C8458.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:00:45 -0500 Subject: RE: Re[2]: [Fwd: Re: Passwords.] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I've flashed a few IBM SCSI drives to correct some potential problems, so it is probable it can be done with IDE drives too. But the flash process is not necessarily a total rewrite. Depending on how the flash memory is utilized, the flashing program may only rewrite certain blocks of the flash memory... like just the firmware, and not config/error/data blocks in flash. In any event, unless you know all the intracacies of their proprietary flash interface. It's sorta like you trying to do brain surgery remotely in the dark without experience. Without any detailed clues, it can't be done sucessfully. Rich >Hello, > >I wonder if it is possible to reflash the firmware on the drive? > >73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 13:24:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09295 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:24:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26934; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:22:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:19:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26609; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:19:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26384; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:18:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg130-138.ricochet.net [204.179.130.138]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA14884 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:18:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: Subject: URL for tbook.pdf and twbook.pdf? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:18:23 -0700 Message-ID: <003f01bdf2df$a7470480$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199810061805.LAA18678@stevie.loop.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: I seem to have lost the URL for downloading the famous tbook.pdf and twbook.pdf files. Does anyone have that URL handy? Thanks! -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 13:25:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09304 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:25:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27214; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:22:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26855; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26820; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:21:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA04140; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 07:21:29 -1000 Message-ID: <006d01bdf2e0$1d6fbc60$0db5ae80@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Rob Bell" , Subject: Re: TP600 Just Plain Dead Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:21:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >We removed all removable hardware (HD, CD, battery) except the one >memory chip and re-seated them to make sure they weren't loose. No >effect. Try removing the memory chip - I had exactly the same symptoms on my 560 after installing a generic chip from Chipmerchant. Using a better chip fixed it. Obviously the newer ThinkPad's have some sort of protective circuitry that keeps the machines from powering up when some kinds of memory faults are detected. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 13:36:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09449 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:36:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28202; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:36:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:31:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27777; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:31:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27763; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:31:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dts_jl ([12.69.70.224]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981008173032.GGUQ17049@dts_jl> for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:30:32 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981008131859.00b32380@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 13:18:59 -0400 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: URL for tbook.pdf and twbook.pdf? In-Reply-To: <003f01bdf2df$a7470480$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> References: <199810061805.LAA18678@stevie.loop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:18 AM 10/8/98 -0700, you wrote: >I seem to have lost the URL for downloading the famous tbook.pdf and >twbook.pdf files. Does anyone have that URL handy? > Well, today it seems to still be at: http://www.pc.ibm.com/techinfo/bae6.html No promising about tomorrow, though. It's been at that address for a while - probably time for them to move it and leave no forwarding address. I never did find the companion files for the desktop systems . Jane From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 13:53:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09633 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29422; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:53:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:50:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29184; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:50:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu (root@post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29064; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:50:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unixs2.cis.pitt.edu (terst11@unixs2.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.53]) by post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu with SMTP (8.8.8/8.8.8/cispo-7.2.2.2) ID for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:50:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:50:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim X-Sender: terst11@unixs2.cis.pitt.edu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 14:12:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA09854 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:12:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00838; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:10:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00614; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:10:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00500; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:06:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:06:17 -0400 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-4.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id OAA16796 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:05:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361CFF22.8E77B3D9@csc.com> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 13:06:26 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP600 Just Plain Dead - Update References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Thanks to all who responded about this. We found no solution. Fortunately our help desk at work had another 600 that had just come in. They put the old HD into the new PC and got my friend back up and running. They'll probably send in the bad PC. I did read in some IBM quick reference/troubleshooting manual for the 600 that the problem was similar to having a power-on password set. There wasn't any password set by the owner and there was absolutely nothing on the screen, so I don't know for sure... Anyway, it wasn't the drive... Thanks, Rob ------------------------------------------ Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob_bell@nospam@csi.com ------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 14:50:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA10484 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:50:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03162; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:49:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:41:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02336; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:41:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gw.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02323; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:41:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gw.uhc.com (root@localhost) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05473 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:41:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dts_jl (DTS_JL-pcp098671pcs.uhc.com [10.145.181.71]) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05469 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:41:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981008142952.00b52a10@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 14:29:52 -0400 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: archive? In-Reply-To: <199810080441.VAA08197@stevie.loop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:38 PM 10/7/98 -0800, you wrote: >On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 22:27:28 GMT, Michael Scheer wrote: > >>Is this list archived anywhere? >> >On my machine, yes. Outside-user-accessable? No, or not yet for that matter. >Unless someone could help me setup Lotus Domino for OS/2... =) > There's also Chris Hanson's archive at ftp://swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu/archive/thinkpad/archive/ but it doesn't look like it's been updated lately. Chris? You still out there? Jane From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 14:51:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA10492 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:50:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03164; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:49:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:44:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02576; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:44:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02453; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p19.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.88]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA17963; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810081844.LAA17963@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Michael Geary" Date: Thu, 08 Oct 98 11:41:52 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: URL for tbook.pdf and twbook.pdf? List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:18:23 -0700, Michael Geary wrote: >I seem to have lost the URL for downloading the famous tbook.pdf and >twbook.pdf files. Does anyone have that URL handy? > Which files are these? I can let you download tpvol*.pdf from my ftp site if you want. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 15:08:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA10774 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06125; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:08:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:05:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05230; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:05:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05193; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg130-138.ricochet.net [204.179.130.138]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA29916; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:04:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: URL for tbook.pdf and twbook.pdf? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:04:47 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bdf2ee$8433d6d0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199810081844.LAA17963@stevie.loop.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > >I seem to have lost the URL for downloading the famous tbook.pdf and > >twbook.pdf files. Does anyone have that URL handy? > Which files are these? > > I can let you download tpvol*.pdf from my ftp site if you want. They're are Roger Dodson's wonderful charts of ThinkPad features, for current models (tbook.pdf) and withdrawn models (twbook.pdf). These are the filenames shown on the title page of each file. Are they the same as the tpvol*.pdf you mentioned? I've got copies of these files that are not too out of date. What I'm looking for is a site where updated versions of them are kept. They ought to be on IBM's site somewhere but I couldn't find them. Thanks! Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 15:12:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA10846 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:12:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04870; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:47:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04532; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:47:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04520; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:47:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256697.00517449 ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:49:41 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: sterni@usc.edu cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <86256697.0050C21A.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:49:00 -0500 Subject: Re: Passwords (chemistry and magnesium) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Sorry for continuing this tangent... but. I believe that the poster is confusing Mg with Lithium (which is highly reactive with water). One of the basic tests for Magnesium is to put the metal boiling water to see if it evolves hydrogen. Mg wont burst into flames without an ignitor, and water isn' t one. There has been talk of designing Laptop batteries into a Lithium composite notebook shell. Rich (chem major 20yrs ago ;-) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 15:20:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA10993 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:20:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07051; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:18:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:16:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06826; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:16:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA (reg.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06789; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:16:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, 08 Oct 1998 12:15:25 PST From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: "Michael Geary" , "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: URL for tbook.pdf and twbook.pdf? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:25:23 -0700 Message-ID: <01bdf2f1$658fb980$03785a8e@pmachule> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles Go to the FTP site , it is much more stable than their Web site. ..peter.. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Geary To: Paul Khoury ; ThinkPad List Date: Thursday, October 08, 1998 1:05 PM Subject: RE: URL for tbook.pdf and twbook.pdf? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 15:22:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA11038 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:22:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07390; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:19:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07110; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:19:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.algonet.se (tomei.algonet.se [194.213.74.114]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07098; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:19:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24907 invoked from network); 8 Oct 1998 21:19:29 +0200 Received: from sdu202-75.ppp.algonet.se (HELO helsod) (195.163.75.202) by tomei.algonet.se with SMTP; 8 Oct 1998 21:19:29 +0200 Message-ID: <002001bdf2f0$90e45d80$ca4ba3c3@helsod> From: "Peter Soderholm" To: Subject: SV: Passwords Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:19:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Perhaps your thinking of lithium or Kalium (is this the english word the = chem. symbol is K) which will burn or explode in contact with water : - ) Peter >> metals like magnesium (don't get it wet! :-). > > Why not? About all you'd have is wet magnesium. I suppose it would >corrode sloghtly faster than non-wet magnesium, but either way it is >pretty boring.. =3D) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 16:00:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA11599 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:00:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10068; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:54:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09807; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:54:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09794; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:54:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg130-138.ricochet.net [204.179.130.138]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA06236; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:53:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" , "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: URL for tbook.pdf and twbook.pdf? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:53:58 -0700 Message-ID: <000101bdf2f5$637679a0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <01bdf2f1$658fb980$03785a8e@pmachule> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > From: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP [mailto:machule@triumf.ca] > > ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles > > Go to the FTP site , it is much more stable than their Web site. Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for. -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 16:56:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12290 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:56:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13625; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:55:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:52:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13307; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13289; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:52:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA06682; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:51:49 -1000 Message-ID: <009f01bdf2fd$7e3e4620$0db5ae80@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: [TPall] midi for laptop - neat device seen Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:51:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Apropos of the recent discussion about midi on thinkpads, an offlist TP750 owner just sent me the following link to a tiny serial-port midi device his company makes: http://www.dankadata.com/midilink.html Sadly, there don't seem to be any US distributors. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 17:00:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12323 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14042; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:55:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13636; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13531; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pault (client-151-200-126-162.bellatlantic.net [151.200.126.162]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id QAA09491 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <009a01bdf2fb$8400cd00$03000004@pault> From: "Paul Thomson" To: Subject: Re: Passwords Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:37:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: It's been awhile, but I believe we had success removing power-on passwords by yanking the little BIOS battery. On a 760, it's under either the battery or hard drive. Pull it for a few hours and then plug it back in. No idea how this will affect the HD PW. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 12:43 PM Subject: Re: Passwords >It's the drive electronics, alright. A new drive can be used, or a brand >with a different or non-existent password scheme (like Toshiba). > >ThinkPads do not force you to use drives with this capability, thankfully. > >It "should" be possible to desolder the chip that holds the password and >replace it, but depending on how determined the IBM drive engineer was, >that chip could very well be inside the disk's seal, so you'd need a >cleanroom environment to perform the operation. IBM would probably not do >it because of the cost, and not many of us have cleanrooms in our >workshops. > >A "cheaper" method (for IBM anyway), would be to make a machine that >guesses passwords. Put on the drive and let it run for a few days, clear >the password and return it as fixed or sell as refurbished. > >Chris Schumann > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 17:12:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA12516 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08501; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:35:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:33:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08307; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08224; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (GREASYGIRL.brightware.com [206.156.118.187]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA25699; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00ef01bdf2f2$d72efc30$bb769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Peter Soderholm" , Subject: Re: Passwords Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:35:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Potassium == K. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Soderholm To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thursday, October 08, 1998 12:24 PM Subject: SV: Passwords >Perhaps your thinking of lithium or Kalium (is this the english word the chem. symbol is K) >which will burn or explode in contact with water : - ) > >Peter > >>> metals like magnesium (don't get it wet! :-). >> >> Why not? About all you'd have is wet magnesium. I suppose it would >>corrode sloghtly faster than non-wet magnesium, but either way it is >>pretty boring.. =) > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 17:42:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA12937 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:42:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17599; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:41:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:39:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17400; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cheetah.cs.ucla.edu (Cheetah.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.132.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17360; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from damon@localhost) by cheetah.cs.ucla.edu (8.8.8+Sun/UCLACS-4.0) id OAA12595 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:38:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Damon Liu Message-Id: <199810082138.OAA12595@cheetah.cs.ucla.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 56K V.90 PC Card Modem List-Unsubscribe: I own a 765D which has an integrated modem. I am interested in purchasing a new 56K V.90 PC Card Modem (IBM part no. 10L7393). However, when I looked at PC Zone's product description http://www.zones.com/oasis/bin/catproduct.dll?product_id=113872&act_type=DSR it said: Not compatible with ThinkPad models with integrated modems Does it mean I cannot disable the integrated modem and use the new pc card modem? Thanks. //damon From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 17:49:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA13031 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:49:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18150; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:48:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:46:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17939; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:46:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17922; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:46:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p14.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.83]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA14400; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810082146.OAA14400@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Michael Geary" Date: Thu, 08 Oct 98 14:44:19 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: URL for tbook.pdf and twbook.pdf? List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:04:47 -0700, Michael Geary wrote: >> >I seem to have lost the URL for downloading the famous tbook.pdf and >> >twbook.pdf files. Does anyone have that URL handy? > >> Which files are these? >> >> I can let you download tpvol*.pdf from my ftp site if you want. > >They're are Roger Dodson's wonderful charts of ThinkPad features, for >current models (tbook.pdf) and withdrawn models (twbook.pdf). These are the >filenames shown on the title page of each file. Are they the same as the >tpvol*.pdf you mentioned? > No, but I found the files you were requesting, and downloaded them. >I've got copies of these files that are not too out of date. What I'm >looking for is a site where updated versions of them are kept. They ought to >be on IBM's site somewhere but I couldn't find them. > I can setup a id/password for my ftp site so you can download them. Username:thinkpad Password:thinkpad ftp://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org The site is currently working now. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 17:50:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA13046 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:50:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18277; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:49:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:47:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18011; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:47:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17989; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p14.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.83]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA14512; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810082147.OAA14512@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Peter Soderholm" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 08 Oct 98 14:45:00 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: SV: Passwords List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:19:26 +0200, Peter Soderholm wrote: >Perhaps your thinking of lithium or Kalium (is this the english word the chem. symbol is K) >which will burn or explode in contact with water : - ) > Isn't K potassium? What about sodium? I know that has a reaction with water. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 17:54:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA13086 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18733; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:53:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:50:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18353; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:50:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18088; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:48:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p14.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.83]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA14565; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810082147.OAA14565@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Michael Geary" , "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" , "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 08 Oct 98 14:45:20 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: URL for tbook.pdf and twbook.pdf? List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:25:23 -0700, peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP wrote: >ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles > >Go to the FTP site , it is much more stable than their Web site. Or you can use my ftp site, which is working now. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 19:05:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA13988 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:05:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24244; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:46:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:45:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24036; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:45:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24023; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:45:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg130-138.ricochet.net [204.179.130.138]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA02064; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:45:00 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: URL for tbook.pdf and twbook.pdf? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:45:00 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bdf30d$47ffe900$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199810082146.OAA14400@stevie.loop.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Paul, that was generous of you to go to all that trouble. I think I should have made my original request more clear, though. I wasn't looking for someone to act as a go-between and copy the files somewhere for me. I was just after the location on IBM's site where these documents are kept, so I can keep my own copies current as IBM updates them. (I refer to these files a lot! ) The ftp site Peter listed was just the ticket. In any case, thanks for following up with me--I do appreciate it. -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 19:13:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA14074 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:13:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26695; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:11:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26489; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.rconnect.com (ns5.rconnect.com [209.163.30.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26468; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jeff (pmwino5-80.rconnect.com [209.163.15.80]) by ns1.rconnect.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA09600; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:10:50 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeff & Angie" To: "David Ross" , "H Doan" , Subject: unsubscribe Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:12:43 -0500 Message-ID: <01bdf311$274ea120$6537a8c0@jeff> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 19:27:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA14264 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:27:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27434; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:25:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27341; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:24:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27325; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:24:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA01620 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:29:24 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:29:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: SV: Passwords In-Reply-To: <199810082147.OAA14512@stevie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > > Isn't K potassium? What about sodium? I know that has a reaction with water. Alright folks, can we end this? I promise not to make any more off-topic chemistry jokes. :-) Suffice it to say there are lots of materials which react violently with water, which is why fire extinguishers use CO2 or foam, not water. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming... -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 19:28:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA14275 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:28:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27612; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:27:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:26:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27486; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from torgo.punk.net (torgo.punk.net [207.114.150.54]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27455; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:26:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sparker@localhost) by torgo.punk.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA13655; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:33:45 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:33:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: "John H. Kim" cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Passwords In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, John H. Kim wrote: > It's a chemistry joke. Pure magnesium burns like a roman > candle if you get it wet. > .... > Laptop cases are made of (stable) magnesium alloys, not pure > magnesium. Hence the joke. I'm well aware of the fact that magnesium burns with a great deal of energy released, and even burns quite vigorously under water. But as far as I know it has to get quite hot before burning. I've burned a fair share of magnesium myself and the stuff is quite difficult to get going, but also damn hard to put out once it is going. I had no idea it reacted anything like sodium when it contacted water, and had never hear of this before. Can any other chem oriented folks verify that pure, room temp magnesium will burn if placed in water? Steve From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 20:31:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA14829 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00411; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:22:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00221; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00196; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (GREASYGIRL.brightware.com [206.156.118.187]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA20775 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <016401bdf31b$4f2540f0$bb769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: ThinkPad 600E.... Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:24:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Sob.... I know intellectually that the hardware I buy today will be obsoleted within a few months but it's hard when they improve on your beloved baby. There is a new ThinkPad 600E, which will be available early next month, that adds more disk, standard DVD and more speed to my now rapidly aging 600. (I want one!!!!) I gleaned this from the tbook.pdf file, that Mike Geary just hunted down. The good news is that I will soon be able to buy a DVD drive for my UltraSlimBay. The bad news is that the DVD movie feature will not work under Windows NT 4.0. Oh well.... -- David W. Taylor, Detayls detayls@sprynet.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 21:03:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA15110 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:03:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01707; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:59:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:57:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01441; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:57:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01412; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:57:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA07756; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:57:02 -1000 Message-ID: <003e01bdf31f$c1838680$ac1a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: Subject: Re: SV: Passwords Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:57:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: K==Kryptonite? (Gotta keep Superboy from reading your hard disk with his X-ray vision and stealing your term paper:-) Seriously guys, John's magnesium post was just a joke; can't we all suspend belief, laugh a bit, and get on with our lives? (Hmm, should that have been "hibernate belief"?) - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 8 23:57:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA16782 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:57:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10513; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:53:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10356; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:53:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cortes.cibnor.mx (cortes.cibnor.mx [200.23.161.225]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10331; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:53:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cortes.cibnor.mx by cortes.cibnor.mx id aa24419; 8 Oct 98 21:52 MDT Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:52:54 -0600 (MDT) From: Larry Miller To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: SV: Passwords In-Reply-To: <199810082147.OAA14512@stevie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > Isn't K potassium? What about sodium? I know that has a reaction with water. Definately. When I was a teenager we somehow got ahold of a couple of pounds of metalic sodium and entertained ourselves by throwing chunks of it off the hill into the neighbor's swimming pool in the middle of the night. It was quite reactive; bubbled and fizzed for a while, then gave a delightful bang, splattering around the pool molten "children" of itself which in turn gave little children-type bangs before it was all over. I suppose the *neighbor* didn't find it all that entertaining, but boys will be boys... ;> Larry Miller Centro de Investigaciones Biologicas del Noroeste, La Paz, BCS Mexico lmiller@cibnor.mx http://www.cibnor.mx/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 01:12:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA17497 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:12:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13300; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:11:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:10:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13195; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:10:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (root@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.134.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13183; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:10:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gtwang@localhost (fake: stdin (HELO localhost) (ident: uid#20647@localhost)) by calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <367794-17240>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:10:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Sender: Gerald Wang From: Gerald Wang X-Sender: gtwang@calum To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP350c] Win95 anyone? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, It's an old machine, yes, but with 20MB RAM it runs Win95 quite acceptably. Problem is, I've been having problems getting my Megahertz CC10BT ethernet PCMCIA card to work. I have a feeling it's not an incompability with the card and Thinkpad, but rather lack of proper Win95 PCMCIA drivers for this machine. I was wondering if anyone here was able to get their 350c working with *any* PCMCIA cards under Win95.. Perhaps now is a good time to "upgrade" to OS/2?? I am also thinking of giving Win98 a try (since Win98 is pretty good in the driver area) on this machine but since this machine doesn't have a CD-ROM, I will have to transfer the setup files via a parallel/serial link. By the way, which is faster? I'm guessing parallel... To Bill - do you have any CD-ROM drives that would work with my 350c? Thanks in advance, Gerald From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 02:42:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA18439 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 02:42:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15552; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 02:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 02:37:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15249; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 02:37:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.electricv.com (ns.electricv.com [207.66.81.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15237; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 02:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gallup.net (peru.jimani.com [207.66.81.19]) by ns.electricv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12437; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 00:37:21 -0600 Message-ID: <361DAF50.C33A6297@gallup.net> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 00:38:08 -0600 From: Ray Bayles Organization: Internet Four Corners X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gerald Wang CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP350c] Win95 anyone? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Have you tried downloading the megaherze drivers >from the 3-com site...? and you might need to use a utility to assure that your irq's and ports are properly aligned... I no longer have the computer, but I don't recall any problems with the Megaherze modem I used... it wasn't a CC10BT, but something with J's and 8's From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 03:40:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA18867 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:40:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18121; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:37:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:34:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17843; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17831; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:33:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (167.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.167]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA06859; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:33:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361DBCAC.17CE2E0E@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 03:35:08 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gerald Wang CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP350c] Win95 anyone? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Gerald.. use laplink.. an old DOS version with a parallel laplink type cable.. no CD's that'll work with a 350, sorry.. Gerald Wang wrote: > Hi, > > It's an old machine, yes, but with 20MB RAM it runs Win95 quite > acceptably. Problem is, I've been having problems getting my Megahertz > CC10BT ethernet PCMCIA card to work. I have a feeling it's not an > incompability with the card and Thinkpad, but rather lack of proper Win95 > PCMCIA drivers for this machine. I was wondering if anyone here was able > to get their 350c working with *any* PCMCIA cards under Win95.. > > Perhaps now is a good time to "upgrade" to OS/2?? I am also thinking of > giving Win98 a try (since Win98 is pretty good in the driver area) on this > machine but since this machine doesn't have a CD-ROM, I will have to > transfer the setup files via a parallel/serial link. By the way, which is > faster? I'm guessing parallel... > > To Bill - do you have any CD-ROM drives that would work with my 350c? > > Thanks in advance, > > Gerald -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 03:42:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA18881 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18286; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:40:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:37:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18005; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17984; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (167.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.167]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA07161; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <361DBD43.60F5B9D9@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 03:37:39 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David W. Taylor" CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 600E.... References: <016401bdf31b$4f2540f0$bb769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: David.. there never HAVE been NT4 DVD drivers.. i vaguely recall that there is a good reason that IBM has or can not write one.. David W. Taylor wrote: > Sob.... > > I know intellectually that the hardware I buy today will be obsoleted within > a few months but it's hard when they improve on your beloved baby. > > There is a new ThinkPad 600E, which will be available early next month, that > adds more disk, standard DVD and more speed to my now rapidly aging 600. (I > want one!!!!) > > I gleaned this from the tbook.pdf file, that Mike Geary just hunted down. > > The good news is that I will soon be able to buy a DVD drive for my > UltraSlimBay. The bad news is that the DVD movie feature will not work > under Windows NT 4.0. > > Oh well.... > > -- > David W. Taylor, Detayls > detayls@sprynet.com -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 07:01:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA20054 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00471; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:00:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 06:56:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA00197; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 06:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lotus2.lotus.com (lotus2.lotus.com [192.233.136.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA00181; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 06:55:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from internet2.lotus.com (internet2 [9.95.4.236]) by lotus2.lotus.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA09653; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:00:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mta2.lotus.com (MTA2.lotus.com [9.95.5.6]) by internet2.lotus.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA17774; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 06:54:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mta2.lotus.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (723.2 9-26-1998)) id 85256698.003C8989 ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:01:13 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: LOTUS@MTA To: Bill Morrow cc: "David W. Taylor" , ThinkPad List Message-ID: <85256698.003C88B3.00@mta2.lotus.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 06:53:13 -0400 Subject: Re: ThinkPad 600E.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: NT5 has support for DVD movies but only if you install over a working Win9x system. You can't install the decoder provided by IBM under NT5.... -Bill penzance/37:39 AM To: "David W. Taylor" cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 600E.... David.. there never HAVE been NT4 DVD drivers.. i vaguely recall that there is a good reason that IBM has or can not write one.. David W. Taylor wrote: > Sob.... > > I know intellectually that the hardware I buy today will be obsoleted within > a few months but it's hard when they improve on your beloved baby. > > There is a new ThinkPad 600E, which will be available early next month, that > adds more disk, standard DVD and more speed to my now rapidly aging 600. (I > want one!!!!) > > I gleaned this from the tbook.pdf file, that Mike Geary just hunted down. > > The good news is that I will soon be able to buy a DVD drive for my > UltraSlimBay. The bad news is that the DVD movie feature will not work > under Windows NT 4.0. > > Oh well.... > > -- > David W. Taylor, Detayls > detayls@sprynet.com -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 07:12:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA20118 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01099; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:11:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:07:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00793; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:06:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00756; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:06:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.goodx.com (turgut@www.goodx.com [195.174.27.37]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA17448 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:08:08 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199810091008.NAA17448@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 14:06:25 -0100 (TUR) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <85256698.003C88B3.00@mta2.lotus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ThinkPad 600E.... 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From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 09:31:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA21073 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:31:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06406; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:25:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06080; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:25:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (mosquito.ny.ans.net [147.225.51.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06067; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:25:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mosquito.ny.ans.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id JAA05518; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:25:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:25:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Komar X-Sender: bkomar@mosquito.ny.ans.net To: Paul Khoury cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TPALL: Extra HD FS maybe In-Reply-To: <199810072056.NAA01821@stevie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: >I'm upgrading a new 701 that I'm buying to 2.1GB Is there someplace that has recommended drive upgrades for the TP701? I'd also be interested in knowing if doing the upgrade is difficult or not. Thanks, _________________________________________________________________________ Bruce Komar (914) 701-4875 bkomar@ans.net _________________________________________________________________________ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 10:20:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21500 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:20:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09131; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:19:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:16:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08908; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:16:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avana.net (skratchy.avana.net [205.245.133.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08886; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from skelley (atl115.avana.net [205.245.133.115]) by avana.net (SM-98/Avana) with SMTP id KAA21966 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:16:06 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981009101511.0071e324@pop.avana.net> X-Sender: scottk@pop.avana.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 10:15:11 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Scott Kelley Subject: Re: [TPall] midi for laptop - neat device seen In-Reply-To: <009f01bdf2fd$7e3e4620$0db5ae80@complex.math.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: As a point of information, if you do anything with several channels and alot of commands, serial ports don't handle the traffic fast enough. That is why the MPU-401 was developed in the first place for the computer. If that is the only affordable solution then I may give it a try ($300 is a bit much for an expansion for me right now) Scott. >Apropos of the recent discussion about midi on thinkpads, an offlist >TP750 owner just sent me the following link to a tiny serial-port >midi device his company makes: http://www.dankadata.com/midilink.html > >Sadly, there don't seem to be any US distributors. > >- David R. > > Scott Kelley Lead Programmer, H2 Technologies scottk@avana.net Atlanta, GA Check out my home page : http://www.avana.net/~scottk "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" - Elanor Roosevelt "Character is doing the right thing, even when no one is looking" - Unknown "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... until you can find a rock." - Whoever writes funny bumperstickers From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 10:31:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21617 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10538; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:30:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:28:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10282; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:28:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10245; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:27:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg130-138.ricochet.net [204.179.130.138]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA15376 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:27:53 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: Subject: TP600: 1.03 BIOS makes fan run faster in NT4 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:27:52 -0700 Message-ID: <000101bdf390$ff79bb50$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone applied the 1.03 BIOS upgrade to their ThinkPad 600? I tried it yesterday, and it made the fan run a lot faster in NT4. I went back to the 1.01 BIOS and the fan slowed back down to what I'm used to. I tried going back and forth between the two BIOS versions a couple of times, and it was quite consistent: the fan runs faster (and louder ) with the 1.03 BIOS. I don't know if this is specific to NT or not. With the 1.03 BIOS, the fan actually starts out at the slower speed I'm used to (after the usual few seconds at full speed when the machine's first turned on). Then about two minutes after NT boots up, the fan revs up. I'm going to give IBM a call about this; just curious if anyone else has noticed it. -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 10:39:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21708 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:39:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11404; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:37:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:34:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11143; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:34:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11114; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:34:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg130-138.ricochet.net [204.179.130.138]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA15897 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:34:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: Subject: TP600: beeps louder now! Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:34:36 -0700 Message-ID: <000201bdf391$f0883df0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Another TP600 puzzle. Yesterday the sound output went out completely. No sound in Windows, no startup beeps, no nothing. This was before I started experimenting with the BIOS versions I mentioned in my other message about the fan. I removed and reinstalled the NT4 audio drivers and the sound came back--much louder than before. This is a good thing for the sounds in NT--I never was able to get enough volume before. But the startup beep, open and close display beeps, and card insertion/removal beeps are also a lot louder now. (Much *too* loud!) I was also experimenting with the 1.03 BIOS at the same time, so I'm not sure if that may have had something to do with it. (I certainly wouldn't expect the NT audio driver to affect the startup beep volume!) However, I'm back on the 1.01 BIOS now and the sounds are still very loud. Anyone happen to know anything about this? I sure like the louder sounds in NT, but the other beeps are way too loud now. I haven't found any way to control their volume at all. Thanks! -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 10:56:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21911 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:56:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13341; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:52:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12804; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:52:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12791; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg130-138.ricochet.net [204.179.130.138]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA17594; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:51:59 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: "David W. Taylor" , Subject: RE: TP600: 1.03 BIOS makes fan run faster in NT4 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:51:58 -0700 Message-ID: <000301bdf394$5d849000$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <008001bdf393$ba535f10$4d82b3cc@greasygirl.brightware.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > From: David W. Taylor [mailto:detayls@sprynet.com] > > I haven't changed from the 1.01 BIOS, so I can't confirm your experience. > What motivated you to change to 1.03? Three things: 1. It fixes the minor bug where you close the LCD and open it up again and the screen doesn't come back on until you hit a key. 2. I was thinking about geting the 2nd HDD adapter and it needs the latest BIOS. 3. "Because it's there." -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 11:24:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA22373 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:24:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16122; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:23:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:21:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16011; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:21:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15998; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ursa-minor.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA28529; Fri, 9 Oct 98 11:17:34 EDT Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <361E293F.D26765DB@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 11:18:23 -0400 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.35 i686) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Geary Cc: "David W. Taylor" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600: 1.03 BIOS makes fan run faster in NT4 References: <000301bdf394$5d849000$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Michael Geary wrote: > 1. It fixes the minor bug where you close the LCD and open it up again and > the screen doesn't come back on until you hit a key. That happens to me in Win98 but not Linux. Linux resumes oh so much faster than Win98. I am running BIOS 1.02. The fact that Linux resumes quickly without a keypress leads me to believe this isn't a BIOS problem. By the way, for the 2645-51U, the current BIOS is 1.05 dated October 7th. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 11:40:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA22622 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:40:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18282; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:37:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17968; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:37:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marlin.nosc.mil (root@marlin.nosc.mil [128.49.4.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17950; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dseaman (seaman.nosc.mil [128.49.190.51]) by marlin.nosc.mil (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA22657 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:09:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "Derek Seaman" To: Subject: UUID update disk Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:11:17 -0700 Message-ID: <000901bdf397$102df320$33be3180@dseaman.spawar.navy.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I just downloaded the TP 600 1.05 BIOS. It now includes a thing called the UUID. It says if the UUID is displayed to all zeros (which mine is) to use the System UUID diskette to change it. But I can't find this disk on the IBM web site. Anyone know where I can get it? Derek L. Seaman, Engineer Tactical Cryptologic Systems, D7213 SPAWAR System Center, San Diego dseaman@spawar.navy.mil Ph: (619) 553-6795 Fx: (619) 553-1133 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 11:42:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA22650 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12359; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:47:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:44:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12021; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:44:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11991; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:44:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (mg130-077.ricochet.net [204.179.130.77]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA00786; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:44:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <008001bdf393$ba535f10$4d82b3cc@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Michael Geary" , Subject: Re: TP600: 1.03 BIOS makes fan run faster in NT4 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:47:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I haven't changed from the 1.01 BIOS, so I can't confirm your experience. What motivated you to change to 1.03? David -----Original Message----- From: Michael Geary To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Friday, October 09, 1998 7:31 AM Subject: TP600: 1.03 BIOS makes fan run faster in NT4 >Has anyone applied the 1.03 BIOS upgrade to their ThinkPad 600? I tried it >yesterday, and it made the fan run a lot faster in NT4. I went back to the >1.01 BIOS and the fan slowed back down to what I'm used to. > >I tried going back and forth between the two BIOS versions a couple of >times, and it was quite consistent: the fan runs faster (and louder ) >with the 1.03 BIOS. > >I don't know if this is specific to NT or not. With the 1.03 BIOS, the fan >actually starts out at the slower speed I'm used to (after the usual few >seconds at full speed when the machine's first turned on). Then about two >minutes after NT boots up, the fan revs up. > >I'm going to give IBM a call about this; just curious if anyone else has >noticed it. > >-Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 11:51:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA22769 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:51:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19380; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:49:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:49:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19236; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19221; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:48:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg130-138.ricochet.net [204.179.130.138]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA24318; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:48:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: , "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: TP600: 1.03 BIOS makes fan run faster in NT4 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:48:42 -0700 Message-ID: <000501bdf39c$4a6fa380$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <361E2853.61149A07@sls.lcs.mit.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > Does that mean that you can put a 2nd hard drive in the ultrabay on the > 600? I haven't seen mention of this before. Do you have any URLs for > this? > > I've got my 4GB drive sitting idle since upgrading to the 6.4GB. > > Thanks. > > --Lee Hetherington Here's where I found the information: ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles/600hddad.pdf -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 11:59:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA22885 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20242; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:58:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:55:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19869; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19825; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:55:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (mg130-077.ricochet.net [204.179.130.77]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA04933; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00ab01bdf39d$a3f21bd0$4d82b3cc@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "I Lee Hetherington" , "Michael Geary" Cc: Subject: Re: TP600: 1.03 BIOS makes fan run faster in NT4 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:58:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Yes, 1.05 seems to fix a problem with 1.03 and the serial port. Are you going to try this one too, Mike? -----Original Message----- From: I Lee Hetherington To: Michael Geary Cc: David W. Taylor ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Friday, October 09, 1998 8:21 AM Subject: Re: TP600: 1.03 BIOS makes fan run faster in NT4 >Michael Geary wrote: > >> 1. It fixes the minor bug where you close the LCD and open it up again and >> the screen doesn't come back on until you hit a key. > >That happens to me in Win98 but not Linux. Linux resumes oh so much faster >than Win98. I am running BIOS 1.02. The fact that Linux resumes quickly >without a keypress leads me to believe this isn't a BIOS problem. > >By the way, for the 2645-51U, the current BIOS is 1.05 dated October 7th. > >--Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 11:59:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA22891 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:59:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20222; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:58:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:55:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19838; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:55:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19817; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:55:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg130-138.ricochet.net [204.179.130.138]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA25160; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:55:04 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: , Subject: RE: TP600: 1.03 BIOS makes fan run faster in NT4 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:55:03 -0700 Message-ID: <000601bdf39d$2da2c920$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <361E2D6C.F4CA561F@sls.lcs.mit.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > > That happens to me in Win98 but not Linux. Linux resumes oh so > much faster > > than Win98. I am running BIOS 1.02. The fact that Linux > resumes quickly > > without a keypress leads me to believe this isn't a BIOS problem. > > Never mind. I now see that there was a BIOS fix particular to NT for this > problem. Righto, and it's a different (and much more minor) problem from the Win98 slow resume. The NT problem happens when you close the lid while a network card is installed. In that situation, as you probably know, the machine doesn't actually suspend--it just turns off the LCD. Then when you open the lid, the light doesn't come back on until you hit a key. Pretty minor, and I thought it was completely normal until I saw the note in the BIOS upgrade readme. That Win98 slow resume is a real bummer. It's pretty weird, since Win95 and NT both work just fine. -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 12:07:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA22984 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:07:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21170; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:07:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:04:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20895; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:04:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20728; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:02:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg130-138.ricochet.net [204.179.130.138]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA26097; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:02:50 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: "David W. Taylor" Cc: Subject: RE: TP600: 1.03 BIOS makes fan run faster in NT4 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:02:48 -0700 Message-ID: <000701bdf39e$42d6aef0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00ab01bdf39d$a3f21bd0$4d82b3cc@greasygirl.brightware.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > From: David W. Taylor [mailto:detayls@sprynet.com] > > Yes, 1.05 seems to fix a problem with 1.03 and the serial port. Are you > going to try this one too, Mike? Call me adventurous. I just downloaded it... -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 12:07:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA22990 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21173; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:07:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:05:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20944; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:05:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20824; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:04:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg130-138.ricochet.net [204.179.130.138]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA26247; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:04:09 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: Cc: Subject: RE: TP600: 1.03 BIOS makes fan run faster in NT4 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:04:07 -0700 Message-ID: <000801bdf39e$71b8ca00$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <361E293F.D26765DB@sls.lcs.mit.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > By the way, for the 2645-51U, the current BIOS is 1.05 dated October 7th. > > --Lee Hetherington Oh boy--another new BIOS to try out! Thanks, I think. -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 12:15:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA23090 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:15:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21974; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:14:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:10:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21577; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:10:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from utrecht.lcs.mit.edu (engler@utrecht.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.4.84]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21522; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:10:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from engler@localhost) by utrecht.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA15257 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:10:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dawson R. Engler" Message-Id: <199810091610.MAA15257@utrecht.lcs.mit.edu> Subject: [TP600]: how to make external PCMCIA modem work? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:10:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I'm running Redhat 5.1 on my thinkpad 600. When I plug in an IBM PCMCIA external modem card (which works on my tp560), everything hangs. Does anyone know how to fix this? (The one person I know who made his external modem work had to go into windows and disable the internal modem, among other things. However, I wiped windows.) Thanks, Dawson From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 12:25:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA23236 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23326; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:24:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:21:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22982; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from znet.com (sdts12-148.znet.net [207.167.66.148]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22940; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:21:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jmarnold@localhost) by znet.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA18387; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:18:26 -0700 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:18:26 -0700 Message-Id: <199810091618.JAA18387@znet.com> From: "Jeffrey M. Arnold" To: "Dawson R. Engler" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP600]: how to make external PCMCIA modem work? In-Reply-To: <199810091610.MAA15257@utrecht.lcs.mit.edu> References: <199810091610.MAA15257@utrecht.lcs.mit.edu> List-Unsubscribe: I had the same problem. I ended up disabling both the internal modem and the IR port; I don't remember which was the actual culprit, but I wasn't using either. To disable the ports I used the Thinkpad configuration program in Windows (NT in my case). I don't know of a way to do it without using the IBM-provided program. It's conceivable (but unlikely) that the TP configuration program would work under WINE... -jeff "Dawson R. Engler" writes: > I'm running Redhat 5.1 on my thinkpad 600. When I plug in an IBM > PCMCIA external modem card (which works on my tp560), everything > hangs. Does anyone know how to fix this? > > (The one person I know who made his external modem work had to go into > windows and disable the internal modem, among other things. However, > I wiped windows.) > > Thanks, > Dawson From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 12:27:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA23278 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:27:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23594; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:27:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:23:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23238; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:23:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23219; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:23:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p07.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.76]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA09101; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810091624.JAA09101@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Michael Geary" Date: Fri, 09 Oct 98 09:21:53 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: URL for tbook.pdf and twbook.pdf? List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:45:00 -0700, Michael Geary wrote: >Paul, that was generous of you to go to all that trouble. > Actually, I thought I would check it out for myself, but for anyone who wants it fast (considering that IBM is sometimes fast and >I think I should have made my original request more clear, though. I wasn't >looking for someone to act as a go-between and copy the files somewhere for >me. I was just after the location on IBM's site where these documents are >kept, so I can keep my own copies current as IBM updates them. (I refer to >these files a lot! ) The ftp site Peter listed was just the ticket. > >In any case, thanks for following up with me--I do appreciate it. > Well, I have the hardware maintainence manuals as well, and if I get time in the future, I'll have the ThinkPad Assistant, possibly a List Archive, and other stuff on my site (on my personal server). >-Mike > > -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 12:32:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA23332 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23914; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:29:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:26:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23456; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:26:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23436; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p07.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.76]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA09316; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810091625.JAA09316@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Bruce Komar" Date: Fri, 09 Oct 98 09:23:21 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TPALL: Extra HD FS maybe List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:25:28 -0400 (EDT), Bruce Komar wrote: >On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > >>I'm upgrading a new 701 that I'm buying to 2.1GB > >Is there someplace that has recommended drive upgrades for the TP701? I'd >also be interested in knowing if doing the upgrade is difficult or not. It's very easy, although the BIOS shows the HD to be 367MB, it's more like 1367MB. I just swapped out HDs, and have no problems. I'm using a 1.4GB in my 701 currently. As for the source of my drives, I've checked on eBay for them. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 12:35:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA23380 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:35:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24539; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:34:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:29:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23929; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23881; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p07.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.76]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA10014; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810091630.JAA10014@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "turgut kalfaoglu" Date: Fri, 09 Oct 98 09:27:50 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ThinkPad 600E.... List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 09 Oct 1998 14:06:25 -0100 (TUR), turgut kalfaoglu wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >On Fri, 9 Oct 1998 06:53:13 -0400, Bill_Abt/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com wrote: >>NT5 has support for DVD movies but only if you install over a working Win9x >>system. You can't install the decoder provided by IBM under NT5.... > >Does anyone know of OS/2 support for Thinkpad 600's DVD? Have you checked on IBM's hardware compatibility page? http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/ Or Ty Shrake's Warped ThinkPad site? http://www.tpwarper.com -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 12:37:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA23442 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24640; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:33:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24361; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24296; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg130-138.ricochet.net [204.179.130.138]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA27266; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:32:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Jane Loyless" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: RE: URL for tbook.pdf and twbook.pdf? Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:32:24 -0700 Message-ID: <003301bdf3a2$654368d0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19981008131859.00b32380@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> List-Unsubscribe: > >I seem to have lost the URL for downloading the famous tbook.pdf and > >twbook.pdf files. Does anyone have that URL handy? > From: Jane Loyless [mailto:jloyless@netbox.com] > > Well, today it seems to still be at: > > http://www.pc.ibm.com/techinfo/bae6.html > > No promising about tomorrow, though. It's been at that address > for a while > - probably time for them to move it and leave no forwarding address. Thanks for the pointer. As Peter mentioned, the ftp site is more stable: ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 12:43:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA23514 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25393; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:42:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:39:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24980; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:39:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24964; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg130-138.ricochet.net [204.179.130.138]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA28202; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:38:47 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: "David W. Taylor" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: ThinkPad 600E.... Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:38:47 -0700 Message-ID: <003401bdf3a3$493f83c0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <016401bdf31b$4f2540f0$bb769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> List-Unsubscribe: > From: David W. Taylor [mailto:detayls@sprynet.com] > > I know intellectually that the hardware I buy today will be > obsoleted within > a few months but it's hard when they improve on your beloved baby. > > There is a new ThinkPad 600E, which will be available early next > month, that > adds more disk, standard DVD and more speed to my now rapidly > aging 600. (I > want one!!!!) Yeah, that old 600 of yours is completely obsolete now. Probably only worth a hundred bucks or less, but I'll do an old friend a favor and give you $500 for it. -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 12:47:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA23563 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:47:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25970; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:44:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25527; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25488; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg130-138.ricochet.net [204.179.130.138]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA28816; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:43:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Bruce Komar" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: TPALL: Extra HD FS maybe Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:43:44 -0700 Message-ID: <003501bdf3a3$fa673ad0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: > From: Bruce Komar [mailto:bkomar@ans.net] > > Is there someplace that has recommended drive upgrades for the TP701? I'd > also be interested in knowing if doing the upgrade is difficult or not. Check Bill Morrow's site at: http://www.thinkpads.com/hdd.htm http://www.thinkpads.com/701.htm The hardware part is easy--the only real work involved is transferring your data over to the new drive. -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 12:53:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA23662 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:52:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26587; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:49:52 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26371; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:49:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.0c-utkcs) id MAA10986 for dist-thinkpad; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (uhbhic.uhb.fr [192.134.240.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18071; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:37:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pb2261 (pb2261.rec.uhb.fr [193.52.67.75]) by uhbhic.uhb.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with SMTP id RAA04850 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:37:37 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <361EACDB.1759@uhb.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 17:39:56 -0700 From: Sylvestre MEININGER Reply-To: Sylvestre.meininger@Uhb.Fr Organization: Universite Rennes 2 - France X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 600E : TV Out but no Hardware Mpeg2 ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi everyone. I'm puzzled by IBM's latest announcement of the 600E. It seems they think CPU-only Mpeg2 decoding is enough to watch movies >from the DVD drive... I couldn't find any mention of hardware-based Mpeg2 decoding in IBM's latest tbook.pdf file. Is this a joke ? I know it's a PII-300, but it's only a 66Mhz bus and everybody knows that the CPU can't handle that much. Am I missing something here ? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 13:24:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA24079 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29183; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:21:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28979; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:21:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avana.net (skratchy.avana.net [205.245.133.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28955; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:21:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from skelley (atl1305.avana.net [206.229.96.85]) by avana.net (SM-98/Avana) with SMTP id NAA12907 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:21:22 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981009132252.006c46ec@pop.avana.net> X-Sender: scottk@pop.avana.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 13:22:52 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Scott Kelley Subject: Re: [TPall] midi for laptop - neat device seen In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: After I sent the note, I realized my mistake. Sorry. You are right, the serial ports then weren't fast enough. I might try this then. Once again, sorry. Scott. >MIDI data rate is 32,768 bits per second. A serial port set to 38,400 bits >per second can handle everything you can cram on a MIDI port just fine. >When the MPU-401 came out, serial ports topped out at 19,200. (Which is >the fastest "supported" bit rate on my TP750.) > >Anything with a 16550 equivalent serial port should handle MIDI very well. > >Chris Schumann > >--- included message --- >Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 10:15:11 -0400 >From: Scott Kelley >To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU >Subject: Re: [TPall] midi for laptop - neat device seen > >As a point of information, if you do anything with several channels and >alot of commands, serial ports don't handle the traffic fast enough. That >is why the MPU-401 was developed in the first place for the computer. If >that is the only affordable solution then I may give it a try ($300 is a >bit much for an expansion for me right now) > >Scott. > > > > > Scott Kelley Lead Programmer, H2 Technologies scottk@avana.net Atlanta, GA Check out my home page : http://www.avana.net/~scottk "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" - Elanor Roosevelt "Character is doing the right thing, even when no one is looking" - Unknown "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... until you can find a rock." - Whoever writes funny bumperstickers From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 13:24:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA24093 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:24:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18288; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:39:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:36:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17816; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:35:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17761; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:35:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ursa-minor.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA28629; Fri, 9 Oct 98 11:35:24 EDT Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <361E2D6C.F4CA561F@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 11:36:12 -0400 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.35 i686) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Geary , "David W. Taylor" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600: 1.03 BIOS makes fan run faster in NT4 References: <000301bdf394$5d849000$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> <361E293F.D26765DB@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I wrote: > That happens to me in Win98 but not Linux. Linux resumes oh so much faster > than Win98. I am running BIOS 1.02. The fact that Linux resumes quickly > without a keypress leads me to believe this isn't a BIOS problem. Never mind. I now see that there was a BIOS fix particular to NT for this problem. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 13:30:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA24142 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:30:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29768; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:27:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29609; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:27:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mizar.usc.edu (mizar.usc.edu [128.125.253.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29590; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:27:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (krieger@localhost) by mizar.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id KAA29951 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:27:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Martin Krieger To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 755C Battery Wanted: Tired but not dead, FRU 66G2820 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: If it has 1/2 hour of charge on it, that is fine--I just want to have some backup if the electric cord is pulled out. I mostly work at my desk, plugged in AC. (My battery is dead.) I suspect that some of you have replaced such a tired battery with a good one since you are road warriors, so to speak. Thanks, Martin krieger@usc.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 13:34:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA24175 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00326; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:31:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29922; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:31:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29870; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:31:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA09788; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:31:01 -1000 Message-ID: <004001bdf3aa$9d46e1a0$b81a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: , "Scott Kelley" Subject: Re: [TPall] midi for laptop - neat device seen Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:31:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >that is the only affordable solution then I may give it a try ($300 is a >bit much for an expansion for me right now) If you have a free pcmcia slot, and don't mind the headaches inherent in getting 2 sound cards to function side-by-side, then New Media has some reasonably inexpensive cards that can handle midi. Sometimes they have these quite cheap in the clearance section of their web site (www.newmediacorp.com). - David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 14:03:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA24543 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:03:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02232; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:02:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:00:01 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01985; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:59:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.0c-utkcs) id NAA11501 for dist-thinkpad; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:59:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01065; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:45:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (GREASYGIRL.brightware.com [206.156.118.187]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA15169; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003701bdf3ac$fc1c75d0$bb769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Michael Geary" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: ThinkPad 600E.... Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:47:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: You're all heart, Mike. I think I may hang onto it for a few more cycles.... >Yeah, that old 600 of yours is completely obsolete now. Probably only worth >a hundred bucks or less, but I'll do an old friend a favor and give you $500 >for it. > >-Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 14:10:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA24613 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:10:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02756; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:08:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02608; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:08:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gw.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02595; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gw.uhc.com (root@localhost) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA20678 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:08:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dts_jl (DTS_JL-pcp098671pcs.uhc.com [10.145.181.71]) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA20664 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:08:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981009135654.00b3a5a0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 13:56:54 -0400 To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" From: Jane Loyless Subject: RE: URL for tbook.pdf and twbook.pdf? In-Reply-To: <003301bdf3a2$654368d0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> References: <3.0.1.32.19981008131859.00b32380@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:32 AM 10/9/98 -0700, Michael Geary wrote: >Thanks for the pointer. As Peter mentioned, the ftp site is more stable: > >ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles > LOL - Yeah, until they rename the file....... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 14:28:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA24852 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:28:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04034; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:25:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03821; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:25:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hil-img-10.compuserve.com (hil-img-10.compuserve.com [149.174.177.140]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03807; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:24:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by hil-img-10.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.14) id OAA14739 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:24:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:23:52 -0400 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: MIDI and The TP Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: "(unknown)" Message-ID: <199810091424_MC2-5C34-BE76@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Look out for either a parallel or serial interface such as the Key Midiat= or Note 1 plus - approx =A3100 or $equiv From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 14:56:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA25103 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:56:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05956; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:50:45 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05538; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:50:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.0c-utkcs) id OAA12067 for dist-thinkpad; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:50:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:50:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Judi Theg Talley Message-Id: <199810091850.OAA12067@vixen.cs.utk.edu> To: undisclosed-recipients:; List-Unsubscribe: From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 14:56:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA25109 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05967; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:50:55 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05551; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:50:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.0c-utkcs) id OAA12079 for dist-thinkpad; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:50:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rupert.ucc.ie (rupert.ucc.ie [143.239.211.101]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04124; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rupert.ucc.ie (manning@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rupert.ucc.ie (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA04136; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:18:42 +0100 From: Joseph Manning To: "Steve Hultquist" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 600 SelectaBase Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:15:54 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 0.7.9] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: manning@cs.ucc.ie References: <002a01bdf1fa$f9a99340$51bdddcf@ssh.servicemetrics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <98100715184206.02335@rupert.ucc.ie> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 07 Oct 1998, Steve Hultquist wrote: >> Does anyone have one of these puppies? Do they come with a power supply, or >> do I need to buy an additional power supply to plug into it? Yes (I have one). No (they do not come with their own power supply). Cheers, Joseph ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joseph Manning / Computer Science / University College Cork / manning@cs.ucc.ie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 15:11:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA25244 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:11:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27347; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:00:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:58:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27105; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27063; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:57:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id LAA07623 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:57:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:57:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TPall] midi for laptop - neat device seen Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: MIDI data rate is 32,768 bits per second. A serial port set to 38,400 bits per second can handle everything you can cram on a MIDI port just fine. When the MPU-401 came out, serial ports topped out at 19,200. (Which is the fastest "supported" bit rate on my TP750.) Anything with a 16550 equivalent serial port should handle MIDI very well. Chris Schumann --- included message --- Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 10:15:11 -0400 From: Scott Kelley To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: [TPall] midi for laptop - neat device seen As a point of information, if you do anything with several channels and alot of commands, serial ports don't handle the traffic fast enough. That is why the MPU-401 was developed in the first place for the computer. If that is the only affordable solution then I may give it a try ($300 is a bit much for an expansion for me right now) Scott. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 17:52:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA27298 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:52:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16997; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:49:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16806; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.rconnect.com (ns5.rconnect.com [209.163.30.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16791; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:49:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jeff (pmwino1-14.rconnect.com [209.163.15.14]) by ns1.rconnect.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA09930; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:48:40 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeff & Angie" To: "Michael Geary" , "David W. Taylor" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: Unsubscribe Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:50:34 -0500 Message-ID: <01bdf3ce$d7d4c520$6537a8c0@jeff> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: Unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 18:00:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA27367 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:00:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17533; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:57:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17335; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:57:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marlin.nosc.mil (root@marlin.nosc.mil [128.49.4.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17310; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:57:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dseaman (seaman.nosc.mil [128.49.190.51]) by marlin.nosc.mil (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA17955 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:57:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Derek Seaman" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: TP 600 6.4GB HD Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:59:02 -0700 Message-ID: <000301bdf3d0$06d7e040$33be3180@dseaman.spawar.navy.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <000501bdf39c$4a6fa380$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Where can I order the IBM 6.4GB HD for the TP 600? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 18:14:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA27591 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:14:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18362; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:14:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:12:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18238; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18223; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:12:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from greasygirl (GREASYGIRL.brightware.com [206.156.118.187]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA19883; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00b701bdf3d2$4ded21f0$bb769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Michael Geary" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: ThinkPad 600E.... Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:14:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Howzabout if I throw in my old Mac Quadra 700? Now what's the price? >Ha! By then it will just be good for scrap. Everyone knows these things are >worthless once you wear through that TrackPoint cap. You should take my >offer while it's still open. > >-Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 18:40:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA27841 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:40:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19213; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:37:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19076; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19064; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:37:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg130-138.ricochet.net [204.179.130.138]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA13803; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:36:04 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: "David W. Taylor" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: ThinkPad 600E.... Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:36:03 -0700 Message-ID: <003c01bdf3d5$32945f10$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00b701bdf3d2$4ded21f0$bb769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> List-Unsubscribe: > Howzabout if I throw in my old Mac Quadra 700? Now what's the price? Considering that we just drove Jeff & Angie off the list, I'd better not make an offer on that... Now back to your regularly scheduled ThinkPad topics... -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 18:46:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA27920 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:46:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19818; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:46:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:44:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19526; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19511; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:43:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dgoldman.vip.best.com (dgoldman.vip.best.com [204.156.137.147]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.out) with SMTP id PAA23363 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981009154430.00931100@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 15:44:30 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Re: TP 600 6.4GB HD In-Reply-To: <000301bdf3d0$06d7e040$33be3180@dseaman.spawar.navy.mil> References: <000501bdf39c$4a6fa380$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 02:59 PM 10/9/98 -0700, Derek Seaman wrote: >Where can I order the IBM 6.4GB HD for the TP 600? > For a list of 23 locations that sell that HD (IBM part #02K0518) as well as price, qty in stock and other information, go to: http://www.shopper.com/cgi-bin/nph-sort2?a0=220613&a1=4 -- David Goldman From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 19:05:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA28122 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 19:05:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15603; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:14:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15199; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15181; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:14:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg130-138.ricochet.net [204.179.130.138]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA03922; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:14:18 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: "David W. Taylor" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: ThinkPad 600E.... Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:14:17 -0700 Message-ID: <003a01bdf3c9$c669cb00$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003701bdf3ac$fc1c75d0$bb769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> List-Unsubscribe: > >Yeah, that old 600 of yours is completely obsolete now. Probably > >only worth a hundred bucks or less, but I'll do an old friend a favor > >and give you $500 for it. > You're all heart, Mike. I think I may hang onto it for a few more > cycles.... Ha! By then it will just be good for scrap. Everyone knows these things are worthless once you wear through that TrackPoint cap. You should take my offer while it's still open. -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 21:10:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA29171 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:10:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24770; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:08:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:05:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24641; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24629; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:05:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA07913 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 20:04:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alb-ny6-61.ix.netcom.com(198.211.83.125) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma007902; Fri Oct 9 20:04:10 1998 Message-ID: <361EB2A8.179A@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 21:04:40 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NC320 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 365xd question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I just got a 365xd very cheap bcause the owner said that the hd was bad. When i boot the unit I get the following error message "19990305". Any help what that means? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 21:19:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA29231 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:19:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25351; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:16:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25223; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:16:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25205; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm ([12.79.13.199]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981010011558.FSZV11529@ibm>; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 01:15:58 +0000 Message-ID: <361EB490.22F1@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 21:12:48 -0400 From: Bruce Markowtz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hbarnes@ix.netcom.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 365xd question References: <361EB2A8.179A@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: hbarnes@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > I just got a 365xd very cheap bcause the owner said that the hd was > bad. When i boot the unit I get the following error message "19990305". > Any help what that means? It means "no hard drive found" From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 21:32:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA29330 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25989; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:30:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25811; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:30:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.243]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25799; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:29:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm.net (slip-32-100-103-36.ct.us.ibm.net [32.100.103.36]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA12450 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 01:29:43 GMT Message-ID: <35FCB8B3.4257CE83@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:33:23 -0400 From: Dave White Organization: Greene & White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Subject: [TPALL] Windows NT v4 Emergency Repair Disk & No Hot Swap Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello everyone, My IBM Thinkpad (760EL) does not support Hot Swapping the Floppy Drive & CDRom. I haven't figured a way to use the "emergency repair" floppy. It wants the floppy & CDRom loaded at the same time. Is there a workaround for this? Regards, Dave White From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 9 22:03:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA29521 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:03:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27481; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:03:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:01:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27329; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:01:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mizar.usc.edu (mizar.usc.edu [128.125.253.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27316; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:01:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (krieger@localhost) by mizar.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id TAA01454 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 19:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 19:01:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Martin Krieger To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ?Upgrade of 755C Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I have a 755C with a DX2--50Mhz. Is it possible, and how hard is it to install a 586 upgrade of the processor (Evergreen, Kingston). Is it worth$ it? Martin krieger@usc.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 10 00:55:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA00737 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:55:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03668; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:55:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:52:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03498; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:52:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03486; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bp ([12.70.6.44]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981010045136.IPBO11529@bp>; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 04:51:37 +0000 Message-ID: <361EE7E3.4850@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:51:47 -0400 From: BirgerPetterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Seaman CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP 600 6.4GB HD References: <000301bdf3d0$06d7e040$33be3180@dseaman.spawar.navy.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Derek Seaman wrote: > > Where can I order the IBM 6.4GB HD for the TP 600? http://www.thinkpads.com Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 10 03:24:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA01794 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 03:24:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08289; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 03:24:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 10 Oct 1998 03:21:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08172; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 03:21:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08160; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 03:21:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p02.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.71]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA24751 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810100722.AAA24751@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 10 Oct 98 00:19:41 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP701: Use as a server List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone here ran OS/2 Warp Server on a 701? Is performance good? Thanks. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 10 13:10:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA05136 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 13:10:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00223; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 13:10:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 10 Oct 1998 13:07:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29959; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 13:07:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29947; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 13:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm.net (slip129-37-51-46.ca.us.ibm.net [129.37.51.46]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA98232; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 17:07:16 GMT Message-ID: <361F94D9.BE8A901A@ibm.net> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 10:09:45 -0700 From: Joe Suttle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: os2user , Think Pad List Subject: NetBios & ThinkPad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Finally brought my ThinkPad 701C home long enough to work with in on my network. Found that I was not able to update/transfer files (TP to my other OS/2 machines) through FileStar or an OS/2 window. The communicating computer - either TP, WarpServer (P200) or my Warp 4 (P233) would hang for various periods of time. Narrowed it down to only if doing transfers via Netbios (that included mapping a drive and reading directories). If I ftp to or from the TP, I can send/receive 3-13 meg files with no problems, so that would indicate problems with the TP, my Home and Away adapter and NETBIOS, nothing else. When a 'dir' or transfer fails, the time out varies form 80 sec to 8 minutes. Strangest thing, is that I have no problems AT ALL to the W95 machine on my network - it never failed with any transfers. Any ideas would be appreciated, as that is now my hot button for this weekend. Netbios settings in 'protocol.ini' and 'ibmlan.ini' have been left at default, and my other OS/2 machines do not have a problem communicating/transferring, etc. only the TP. TP has 3.1G drive, 40M and is DX4-75. Don't seem to have problems running any applications. It is loaded with Warp 4 and has FP6 applied. Don,t know of a 'network' group to send this too, they might have some instant (reasonably) answers about netbios settings in 'protocol.ini' or other things. -- Joe Suttle * Warp Certified System Expert joesuttle@ibm.net Hercules, California +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Nurture your mind with great thoughts, for you will never go any higher than you think. - Benjamin Disraeli +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Powered by OS/2 Warp 4 fp7, Warp Server, SmartSuite and Netscape 4.04 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 11 02:00:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA03418 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 02:00:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18384; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 02:00:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 11 Oct 1998 01:54:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18202; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 01:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18189; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 01:54:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (233.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.233]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA02071; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 01:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36204828.115A9070@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 01:54:48 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Krieger CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ?Upgrade of 755C References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Martin.. IMO, no, it is not worth the $$ and aggravation.. Martin Krieger wrote: > > I have a 755C with a DX2--50Mhz. Is it possible, and how hard is it to > install a 586 upgrade of the processor (Evergreen, Kingston). Is it > worth$ it? > Martin > krieger@usc.edu -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com Appears that e-mail is back working! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 11 06:59:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA06856 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 06:59:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18755; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 02:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 11 Oct 1998 02:02:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18603; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 02:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18589; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 02:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p02.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.71]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA13942; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 23:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810110602.XAA13942@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Joe Suttle" , "os2user" , "Think Pad List" Date: Sat, 10 Oct 98 23:00:23 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: NetBios & ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: > If I ftp to or from the TP, I can send/receive 3-13 meg files with no >problems, so that would indicate problems with the TP, my Home and Away >adapter and NETBIOS, nothing else. When a 'dir' or transfer fails, the >time out varies form 80 sec to 8 minutes. Strangest thing, is that I >have no problems AT ALL to the W95 machine on my network - it never >failed with any transfers. I have a very big suspicsion that the problem is the Home & Away NIC. I wish I never had one of these (except for use as the 28.8 modem it has). I have the same problem, and haven't got any serious crashes, but all of my desktop machines work (this one has problems using sharing because of an install problem, but that's the least of my concerns). Has anyone else had problems on their ThinkPad using NETBIOS and the crappy Home & Away card? > Any ideas would be appreciated, as that is now my hot button for this >weekend. Netbios settings in 'protocol.ini' and 'ibmlan.ini' have been >left at default, and my other OS/2 machines do not have a problem >communicating/transferring, etc. only the TP. > TP has 3.1G drive, 40M and is DX4-75. Don't seem to have problems >running any applications. It is loaded with Warp 4 and has FP6 applied. > Don,t know of a 'network' group to send this too, they might have some >instant (reasonably) answers about netbios settings in 'protocol.ini' or >other things. Maybe something on usenet, but I don't even know any groups on usenet. :( -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 11 08:31:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA07401 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03709; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:31:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:28:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03558; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03546; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amdk6266 ([205.130.18.63]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 2090300 ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:38:10 -0400 Message-ID: <001001bdf512$7ebbdf60$0200000a@amdk6266> From: "Slip" To: "Paul Khoury" , "Joe Suttle" , "os2user" , "Think Pad List" Subject: Re: NetBios & ThinkPad Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:27:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >I have a very big suspicsion that the problem is the Home & Away NIC. I wish I never had one >of these (except for use as the 28.8 modem it has). I have the same problem, and haven't got any serious >crashes, but all of my desktop machines work (this one has problems using sharing because of an >install problem, but that's the least of my concerns). >Has anyone else had problems on their ThinkPad using NETBIOS and the crappy Home & Away >card? That's one thing I wanted to ask someone about-where did you get the 28.8 upgrade? Is there a downloadable software flash for it? If so, point me to it! :-) Actually, for me, the modem side of the adapter doesn't work, but since it's the same speed as the internal, there's no point to worrying with it. As far as the network adapter goes, I don't use NetBios exclusivly throught windows-I'm set on TCP/IP. I do however, believe that this adapter was not intended to be used in dos... I'v run every friggin executible in the netware directory to try to get it to work with dos IPX games. I ended up goin through windows. Any idea how to do this? I'm still unsure which version of Novell should be installed for *just* a peer-peer network. Tending to your problems, what OS are you running? There was some stipulation as far as which version of Win95 you were running and the H&A adapter. I'm running A, because 1-it seems to run faster than B and 2-the adapter supposidly only works for 95a. Good luck! -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 11 11:44:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA08513 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07125; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:44:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:40:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06886; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:40:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.inreach.com (pager.inreach.com [209.142.0.209]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06874; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jerryray (209-142-12-201.stk.inreach.net [209.142.12.201]) by mail.inreach.com (8.8.8/8.8.6/(InReach)) with ESMTP id IAA21236 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810111532.IAA21236@mail.inreach.com> Reply-To: From: "Janice Ray" To: "thinkpad" Subject: Rebuilding notebook batteries Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:36:58 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: To all Thinkpad users ,Here is a company below that rebuilds Notebook batteries real inexpensive. I am not affliated with this company.They can rebuild any notebook battery. I sent in a tp500 battery to the Battery Barn of Virginia and had it rebuilt. It just came back today. My battery seems to be as good as new, and the company is really easy to deal with. They charged me $42.50, including shipping, which seemed very reasonable to me. I'm sending in my other battery tomorrow. If anyone wants to get in touch with them, their phone number is 800-648-1668. Ask for Ed. Have a nice day, djmusic@inreach.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 11 14:10:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA09429 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:10:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11140; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:09:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:06:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10912; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:06:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10899; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:06:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p19.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.88]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA18002; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810111805.LAA18002@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Slip" Date: Sun, 11 Oct 98 11:03:29 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: NetBios & ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: >That's one thing I wanted to ask someone about-where did you get the 28.8 >upgrade? Is there a downloadable software flash for it? If so, point me to >it! :-) They physically sent the card to me. >Actually, for me, the modem side of the adapter doesn't work, but since it's >the same speed as the internal, there's no point to worrying with it. As far >as the network adapter goes, I don't use NetBios exclusivly throught >windows-I'm set on TCP/IP. I love TCP/IP, but NETBIOS is slow particulary and only on that card. I think there's a bug in the driver that doesn't allow the modem to simultaniously work while the ethernet part is on. I do however, believe that this adapter was not >intended to be used in dos... Or OS/2. Or NT. Or Win95. Or any other OS it has drivers for. I'v run every friggin executible in the >netware directory to try to get it to work with dos IPX games. I ended up >goin through windows. Any idea how to do this? I'm still unsure which >version of Novell should be installed for *just* a peer-peer network. >Tending to your problems, what OS are you running? There was some >stipulation as far as which version of Win95 you were running and the H&A >adapter. I'm running A, because 1-it seems to run faster than B and 2-the >adapter supposidly only works for 95a. All I have to say is that I'll probably end up getting a different NIC, because this piece of crap is too much of a headache! Anyone here have OS/2, a ThinkPad (preferably a 701), and a 3COM PCMCIA NIC? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 11 17:48:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA10742 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:48:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17491; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:48:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:42:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17200; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:42:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (erich.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17188; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:42:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter (slip129-37-106-43.mn.us.ibm.net) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:42:04 PST From: "peter machule" To: "thinkpad" Subject: Looking for a DIMM Adapter module for a 755(CX) 84G2151 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:41:49 -0000 Message-ID: <01bdf525$47445ea0$2b6a2581@peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: As the note says, I'm looking for a DIMM Memory Module Adapter (for DIMM memory) 84G2151 (withdrawn) AKA 84G4322 . If anyone has one or knows of one CHEAP !! please let me know . Thanks ...peter.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 11 18:35:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA11013 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18995; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:30:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18777; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:30:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18765; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:30:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amdk6266 ([205.130.18.68]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 2583600 ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:40:24 -0400 Message-ID: <001801bdf566$9c147e60$0200000a@amdk6266> From: "Slip" To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: NetBios & ThinkPad Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:29:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >All I have to say is that I'll probably end up getting a different NIC, because this >piece of crap is too much of a headache! >Anyone here have OS/2, a ThinkPad (preferably a 701), and a 3COM PCMCIA NIC? Yeah, if you just want the ethernet side, you can get a nice 10B/T card for around 70buks(saw it in a PC Zone catalog) Or you could be sensible and buy one of Bill's cards. I did buy a 3Com 28.8/10BaseT card, but I couldnt get it to work with the 701. I knew *very* little about configuring PCMCIA cards then(they're still a pain to work with if they don't work though), so it could have been a simple software problem. I'v since sold it, and the buyer didn't have any problems. Check out Onsale.com-picked up mine for 29buks. Have fun and good luck. -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 11 19:58:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA11630 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:58:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21473; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:58:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:53:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21141; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:52:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21127; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from user-37kb5gg.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb5gg.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.150.16]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA06170 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:52:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by user-37kb5gg.dialup.mindspring.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BDF550.B9B9EB00@user-37kb5gg.dialup.mindspring.com>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:52:49 -0400 Message-ID: <01BDF550.B9B9EB00@user-37kb5gg.dialup.mindspring.com> From: Fred Leiter To: "Thinkpad (E-mail)" Subject: pcmcia problem w/98 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:52:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Just installed windows 98 on my laptop (760E), now everytime I insert a pcmcia card it claims that it cannot configure it because there is not a free memory area available, and to check the config.sys file for an exclude statement. I have no other software installed and no config.sys or autoexec.bat installed just a straight 98 install. I have tried reinstalling fresh a couple times and get the same result. The pcmcia slots show up in device manager just fine any ideas..... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 11 21:39:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA12407 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:39:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23973; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:33:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23656; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:33:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.netwiz.net (Mail.NetWiz.Net [208.136.106.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23642; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:33:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [208.135.14.26] (Megan.NetWizards.Net [208.136.106.5]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA07427 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:33:17 -0700 X-Sender: mikeford@mail.netwiz.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001801bdf566$9c147e60$0200000a@amdk6266> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:56:00 -0700 To: "ThinkPad List" From: Mike Ford Subject: Re: NetBios & ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: At 3:29 PM -0700 10/11/98, Slip wrote: >>All I have to say is that I'll probably end up getting a different NIC, >because this >>piece of crap is too much of a headache! >>Anyone here have OS/2, a ThinkPad (preferably a 701), and a 3COM PCMCIA >NIC? > > >Yeah, if you just want the ethernet side, you can get a nice 10B/T card for >around 70buks(saw it in a PC Zone catalog) Or you could be sensible and buy I picked up a couple Xircom Network Simplicity, Pocket Ethernet Adapters, model PE10B2-NS, at the swapmeet. Anybody know more about these, they appear to be parallel port to 10B2 (thin ethernet)? They have a typical power input adapter socket, but no marking showing the voltage etc. Any ideas on that welcome too. ;) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 11 21:43:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA12436 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24463; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:43:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:38:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23806; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:38:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23794; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:37:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bp ([12.70.21.106]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981012013719.VTY26686@bp>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:37:19 +0000 Message-ID: <36215D59.4E3F@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:37:29 -0400 From: BirgerPetterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fred Leiter CC: "Thinkpad (E-mail)" Subject: Re: pcmcia problem w/98 References: <01BDF550.B9B9EB00@user-37kb5gg.dialup.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Fred Leiter wrote: > > Just installed windows 98 on my laptop (760E), now everytime > I insert a pcmcia card Did you install the 11 sets of files downloaded from IBM Web sites? This may have something to do with it. Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 11 23:34:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA13149 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:34:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08031; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:33:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:28:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07794; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07695; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:27:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-114-134.bellatlantic.net [151.198.114.134]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with ESMTP id WAA11833 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:52:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36216E8A.6B9D67F@bellatlantic.net> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:50:51 -0400 From: Mike Monteleone Reply-To: mmonte@bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 560E and PCMCIA CD-ROM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I'm a new TP owner (560E) who knows little about computers. I am trying to get an Addonics PCMCIA CD to work with the TP with no luck. I updated the drivers for the PC Card device as suggested by IBM, but still no luck, Under the PCMCIA icon the device is recognized as a hard drive. No icon appears for the CD-ROM as should happen. Any help would be much appreciated. I am excited to learn more about computers and PC's from this group. Thanks Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 11 23:40:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA13185 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08417; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:35:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08242; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com (camel8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08230; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ms270598 (user-37kbo1e.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.224.46]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA13098; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Fred Leiter" To: "Thinkpad" , Subject: RE: pcmcia problem w/98 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:35:40 -0400 Message-ID: <000001bdf591$62883a80$2ee045cf@ms270598> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <36215D59.4E3F@worldnet.att.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3007.0 List-Unsubscribe: Tried all the files I could find on the IBM site that are related to the Thinkpad and win98, their pcmcia utility however is not supported for win 95/osr2 or win98 so that didn't help either. Any other ideas... > -----Original Message----- > From: BirgerPetterson [mailto:BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Sunday, October 11, 1998 9:37 PM > To: Fred Leiter > Cc: Thinkpad (E-mail) > Subject: Re: pcmcia problem w/98 > > > Fred Leiter wrote: > > > > Just installed windows 98 on my laptop (760E), now everytime > > I insert a pcmcia card > > Did you install the 11 sets of files downloaded from IBM Web sites? This > may have something to do with it. > > Birger > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 00:43:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA13661 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:43:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11737; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:42:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:39:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11590; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:39:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11578; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p15.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.84]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA12295; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810120439.VAA12295@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Mike Ford" , "ThinkPad List" Date: Sun, 11 Oct 98 21:36:33 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: NetBios & ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:56:00 -0700, Mike Ford wrote: >At 3:29 PM -0700 10/11/98, Slip wrote: >>>All I have to say is that I'll probably end up getting a different NIC, >>because this >>>piece of crap is too much of a headache! >>>Anyone here have OS/2, a ThinkPad (preferably a 701), and a 3COM PCMCIA >>NIC? >> >> >>Yeah, if you just want the ethernet side, you can get a nice 10B/T card for >>around 70buks(saw it in a PC Zone catalog) Or you could be sensible and buy > >I picked up a couple Xircom Network Simplicity, Pocket Ethernet Adapters, >model PE10B2-NS, at the swapmeet. Anybody know more about these, they >appear to be parallel port to 10B2 (thin ethernet)? > Yeah, I used to have one, and took it back. Cost me 10 bucks, but I didn't know I needed termination to make it work. >They have a typical power input adapter socket, but no marking showing the >voltage etc. Any ideas on that welcome too. ;) > I don't remember the voltage, maybe 5V. I think there's an option of either the PS/2 keyboard/mouse port, or an external AC adapter for power. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 01:27:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA13959 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:27:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13008; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:26:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:23:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12819; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:23:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.netwiz.net (Mail.NetWiz.Net [208.136.106.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12802; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:22:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [208.135.14.55] (Megan.NetWizards.Net [208.136.106.5]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id WAA25309 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:22:51 -0700 X-Sender: mikeford@mail.netwiz.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199810120439.VAA12295@stevie.loop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:17:22 -0700 To: "ThinkPad List" From: Mike Ford Subject: Re: NetBios & ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: At 10:36 PM -0700 10/11/98, Paul Khoury wrote: >On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:56:00 -0700, Mike Ford wrote: >>I picked up a couple Xircom Network Simplicity, Pocket Ethernet Adapters, >>model PE10B2-NS, at the swapmeet. Anybody know more about these, they >>appear to be parallel port to 10B2 (thin ethernet)? >> >Yeah, I used to have one, and took it back. Cost me 10 bucks, but >I didn't know I needed termination to make it work. By termination you mean that the last T connection in the chain needs a resistor in a little metal can? Those are easy to find for about a $1, Radio Shack etc. I am about to play with my first thin (coax) ethernet lan, and coax seems like a much better choice for a small lan, unless you have all newer machines with builtin 10bt. Hubs are dropping in price pretty fast, but for say 3 older machines 10b2 NICs are cheaper, and you need two terminators and three T's and two lengths of coax with BNC on the end. A little shopping will find everything for less than $20. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 02:30:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA14752 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 02:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14605; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 02:26:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 02:20:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14369; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 02:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14357; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 02:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p22.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.63.91]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA01746; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810120617.XAA01746@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Mike Ford" Date: Sun, 11 Oct 98 23:18:37 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: NetBios & ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:17:22 -0700, Mike Ford wrote: >At 10:36 PM -0700 10/11/98, Paul Khoury wrote: >>On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:56:00 -0700, Mike Ford wrote: > >>>I picked up a couple Xircom Network Simplicity, Pocket Ethernet Adapters, >>>model PE10B2-NS, at the swapmeet. Anybody know more about these, they >>>appear to be parallel port to 10B2 (thin ethernet)? >>> >>Yeah, I used to have one, and took it back. Cost me 10 bucks, but >>I didn't know I needed termination to make it work. > >By termination you mean that the last T connection in the chain needs a >resistor in a little metal can? Those are easy to find for about a $1, >Radio Shack etc. Yup. Common for ALL 10Base2 Networks. 10BaseT only needs a hub. :) > >I am about to play with my first thin (coax) ethernet lan, and coax seems >like a much better choice for a small lan, unless you have all newer >machines with builtin 10bt. Yeah, it's cheap. My first Lan was with Caldera's OpenDOS (www.caldera.com), using NE1000 and NE2000 cards and 10Base2. In fact, I was almost considering 10Base2 for my ThinkPad. Hubs are dropping in price pretty fast, but for >say 3 older machines 10b2 NICs are cheaper, and you need two terminators >and three T's and two lengths of coax with BNC on the end. A little >shopping will find everything for less than $20. > Sounds about right. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 10:22:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA17579 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09204; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:20:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:12:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08389; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dc.jones.com ([206.156.0.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08358; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:11:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from twidar.jones.com (cm1347h.jones.com [208.159.214.179]) by dc.jones.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA04590 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810121408.KAA04590@dc.jones.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:08:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: unscribe Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: unscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 10:29:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA17637 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:28:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09773; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:28:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:25:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09578; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:25:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09565; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:25:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm.net (slip166-72-80-2.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.80.2]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA125138; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:25:08 GMT Message-ID: <362211D0.BA4AA1B7@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 07:27:29 -0700 From: Joe Suttle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: os2user@os2ss.com CC: Think Pad List Subject: Re: NetBios & ThinkPad References: <361F94D9.BE8A901A@ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Thanks for the advice re: Home & Away being the possible source of the problem - you were right. Bought a Linksys PC Ethernet card, reconfigured MPTS/LAPS and now everything is fine. Seems that there is something about the shared interrupt. Now just have to figure out some way to get the onboard serial port working again. Warp 4 assigns an IRQ to the SCSI card (3), and in it's driver, there is no way to change the irq. Will try to resolve with IBM, Panasonic or Adaptec how to get a driver that will force the irq to something else, BUT netbios problem is solved! -- Joe Suttle * Warp Certified System Expert joesuttle@ibm.net Hercules, California +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Nurture your mind with great thoughts, for you will never go any higher than you think. - Benjamin Disraeli +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Powered by OS/2 Warp 4 fp7, Warp Server, SmartSuite and Netscape 4.04 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 10:32:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA17676 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:32:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10193; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:32:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:28:51 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09779; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:28:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.0c-utkcs) id KAA06397 for dist-thinkpad; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:28:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00866; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 23:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from RJWLaptop.usc.edu (ppp-223-230.usc.edu [128.125.223.230]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id UAA14444; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 20:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810100331.UAA14444@almaak.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 20:30:13 -0700 To: Rob Bell , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: TP600 Just Plain Dead In-Reply-To: <361CC114.F9DCC16A@csc.com> References: <199810080647.JAA02534@home.egenet.com.tr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Try the reset switch--just below and to the left of the power switch. Use a pointy object. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 11:12:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA17977 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:12:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12441; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:12:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:06:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12014; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11999; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:06:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from JES770@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id CFAa017824 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:05:32 EDT To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Installing 770 internal CD Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 List-Unsubscribe: I recently purchased a 10-24x internal CD-ROM for my 770. Though the drivers are in C:\Cdrom, there are no entries in Autoexec.bat or Config.sys. The 770 User Guide doesn't provide much info. Question: Will the necessary lines be automatically placed in Autoexec.bat or Config.sys when the CD is inserted in the UltrBay and the 770 is booted? TIA... John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 11:32:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA18148 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:32:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13891; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:29:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13660; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13645; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (97.p1.Ascend13.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.169.225]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id LAA01725; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3622206A.2A788C4F@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:29:46 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JES770@aol.com CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Installing 770 internal CD References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: John.. depend on your OS.. win9x should "discover" the CD and hand you a working system, DOS will require the usual lines be added to autoexec and config.. let us know more and more specific direction should be forthcoming.. JES770@aol.com wrote: > I recently purchased a 10-24x internal CD-ROM for my 770. > Though the drivers are in C:\Cdrom, there are no entries in > Autoexec.bat or Config.sys. The 770 User Guide doesn't > provide much info. > > Question: Will the necessary lines be automatically placed in > Autoexec.bat or Config.sys when the CD is inserted in the > UltrBay and the 770 is booted? > > TIA... John -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Subject to prior sale, your mileage will vary, done on a closed road with a professional driver, do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 11:47:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA18296 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15007; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:42:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14580; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:42:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (root@tam.dorsai.org [206.127.32.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14567; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:42:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (higgins@amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA14155 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:44:37 -0400 (EDT) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id LAA16520 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:44:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810121544.LAA16520@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: Re: 560e and CD-ROM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (thinkpad) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:44:34 -0400 (edt) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Since I'm an idiot as well, I'll give you the two most basic suggestions. Do you have the CDROM all connected and powered up when you boot the PC? Did you install the drivers with the CD ROM connected? When you look under Control Panel/System/Hardware Profiles does anything appear under CDROM??? Rely on others for greater sophistication... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins Broadcasting & Cable Magazine higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > I'm a new TP owner (560E) who knows little about computers. I am > > trying to get an Addonics PCMCIA CD to work with the TP with no luck. I > > updated the drivers for the PC Card device as suggested by IBM, but > > still no luck, Under the PCMCIA icon the device is recognized as a > > hard drive. No icon appears for the CD-ROM as should happen. > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 11:58:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA18406 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:58:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15934; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:54:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15459; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:54:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bradnet (bradnet.legend.co.uk [194.164.19.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15442; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:54:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bradnet (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.02/2.0) id MAA001.16; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:50:34 +0100 Message-Id: <199810121150.MAA001.16@bradnet> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 98 12:50:31 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: Ethernet & Token Ring in 760C To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] for OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: I have managed to get both Ethernet and Token Rings working in my 760C but not at the same time. Can anyone suggest how I accomplish this feat? It's probably something to do with juggling IRQs. I am using OS/2 BTW. -- John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 12:41:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA18826 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:41:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19855; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:41:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:35:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19408; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:35:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [209.30.0.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19395; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:35:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from don-s-computer (p191.amax39.dialup.hou1.flash.net [209.30.72.191]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00922 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:35:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199810121635.LAA00922@endeavor.flash.net> Reply-To: From: "DON " To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:32:54 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe thanksdonmck@flash.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 12:57:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA19044 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21699; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:57:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:54:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21346; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:54:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21326; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:54:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA25244; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 06:50:44 -1000 Message-ID: <004d01bdf600$781c5ec0$0db5ae80@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: , Subject: Re: TP 560E and PCMCIA CD-ROM Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:50:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >I'm a new TP owner (560E) who knows little about computers. I am >trying to get an Addonics PCMCIA CD to work with the TP with no luck. At the risk of depressing you, there are some CD-ROM drives that simply wont work with some ThinkPads. Based on positive reviews I once bought a CMS 4x for my 560, and despite a substantial amount of very hard work (including monkeying with the .inf files) could not get the machine to recognize it. The IBM CD with which I replaced it worked first time. I know that some people have had trouble with some Panasonic models depending on which pcmcia slot they use. I would talk to the Addonics people rather than the IBM people - while the latter might well be more knowledgable in general, the former will have a better idea of what aspects of their unit might be at fault. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 13:31:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA19376 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24092; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:31:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:27:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23677; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23656; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:27:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ms154504 (user-37kbo0o.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.224.24]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA22303; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:27:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810121727.NAA22303@camel7.mindspring.com> X-Sender: rchalk@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:27:17 -0400 To: Fred Leiter , "Thinkpad (E-mail)" From: Richard Chalk Subject: Re: pcmcia problem w/98 In-Reply-To: <01BDF550.B9B9EB00@user-37kb5gg.dialup.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: In my experience, this occurred when Card Services did not install, and was a result of deleting CardWorks AFTER I had installed Windows98. I tried lots of things, but finally reinstalled Windows 98 with CardWorks deleted, and the card installed in the machine. I know this is a pain, but it should fix the problem. Richard At 07:52 PM 10/11/98 -0400, Fred Leiter wrote: >Just installed windows 98 on my laptop (760E), now everytime >I insert a pcmcia card it claims that it cannot configure it because >there is not a free memory area available, and to check the config.sys >file for an exclude statement. I have no other software installed and >no config.sys or autoexec.bat installed just a straight 98 install. >I have tried reinstalling fresh a couple times and get the same result. >The pcmcia slots show up in device manager just fine > >any ideas..... > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 13:58:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA19611 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:58:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26165; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:54:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25871; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25824; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:54:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p00.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.63]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA19069; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810121751.KAA19069@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk" Date: Mon, 12 Oct 98 10:43:12 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ethernet & Token Ring in 760C List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 12 Oct 98 12:50:31 +0100, John Poltorak wrote: >I have managed to get both Ethernet and Token Rings working in my >760C but not at the same time. > >Can anyone suggest how I accomplish this feat? > >It's probably something to do with juggling IRQs. > >I am using OS/2 BTW. I think in MPTS you have to setup one as Interface 0, with it's protocols (for me, TCP/IP, then Netbios), then the other as Interface 1, also with it's protocols, and configure each card. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 13:58:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA19616 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:58:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26151; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:54:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25842; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:54:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25819; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:54:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p00.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.63]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA19061; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810121750.KAA19061@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Joe Suttle" Date: Mon, 12 Oct 98 10:41:30 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: NetBios & ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 07:27:29 -0700, Joe Suttle wrote: >Thanks for the advice re: Home & Away being the possible source of the >problem - you were right. Bought a Linksys PC Ethernet card, >reconfigured MPTS/LAPS and now everything is fine. Seems that there is >something about the shared interrupt. Now just have to figure out some >way to get the onboard serial port working again. Warp 4 assigns an IRQ >to the SCSI card (3), and in it's driver, there is no way to change the >irq. Will try to resolve with IBM, Panasonic or Adaptec how to get a >driver that will force the irq to something else, BUT netbios problem is >solved! Sounds like I'll be getting a new card as well... I wouldn't get a Linksys however, because someone here mentioned that they wouldn't support OS/2 in his instance. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 14:03:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA19677 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26938; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:59:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26325; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.243]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26262; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm.net (slip129-37-51-14.ca.us.ibm.net [129.37.51.14]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA37490; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:59:07 GMT Message-ID: <362243F0.95E86130@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:01:20 -0700 From: Joe Suttle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: os2user , Think Pad List Subject: IRQ for SCSI PC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone had experience with the Panasonic KXL-783A PCMCIA CD-ROM? Need to be able to change the IRQ the '.sys' file is assigned by PCMCIA on my thinkpad 701C. It always picks 3, and that is the irq assigned to com2:. Have tried changing the driver line with 'I', 'Q' but to no avail. Any suggestions. Even tried 'RESERVE.SYS', but apparently their driver is RM aware and will not let me change the 'next available IRQ'. Can't change irq in ThinkPad bios - only choices are coms 1,2,3 or 4 and std irqs of 3 or 4 (the standard). SCSI card appears to be mfg by RATOC in Osaka, but that is just picked up from the name on the driver with '/V' set. Not sure it is the same card, but if they wrote the software, perhaps someone has found the answer. -- Joe Suttle * Warp Certified System Expert joesuttle@ibm.net Hercules, California +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Nurture your mind with great thoughts, for you will never go any higher than you think. - Benjamin Disraeli +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Powered by OS/2 Warp 4 fp7, Warp Server, SmartSuite and Netscape 4.04 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 14:58:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA20292 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:58:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28623; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:26:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:24:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28425; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:24:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com (camel8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28394; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:24:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 770 (user-38ld1hp.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.134.57]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA06681 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:24:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "William Armstrong" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:21:05 -0400 Message-ID: <000301bdf60d$13f25be0$fee44ecf@770> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 15:31:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA20580 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03452; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:31:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:25:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02884; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:25:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02807; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:25:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pam.ege.edu.tr (pam.ege.edu.tr [155.223.16.254]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA18541; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:22:05 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199810121822.VAA18541@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "Turgut Kalfaoglu" To: "Joe Suttle" , "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 22:21:36 -0100 (IZM) Reply-To: "Turgut Kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <199810121750.KAA19061@ritchie.loop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: NetBios & ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >I wouldn't get a Linksys however, because someone here mentioned that >they wouldn't support OS/2 in his instance. LinkSys works OK with OS/2. I am using it on my TP600. However, plugging and unplugging it hangs OS/2. Btw, I installed Win98 on dual boot on the TP600, and that,too, hangs if I plug/unplug the card while the machine is running. So, it may be the OS doing it too, or BIOS? No idea. -turgut - --------- Turgut Kalfaoglu EgeNet http://www.egenet.com.tr BBS-TURK http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNiKO/TJjYwErN0xZAQEKfwP/Vg71g6GpeRY7kj9JK4mvRjWndAYVA4N6 uzBsTpDmb3r8wVXiXK8ZqUUNx7C64XXsI6nYIb8zHEQoUSPAtY0khSJIv5yTcZVH PJmAiGt/i1p6NTr+uBrAxi7wPR++bR3txGlY1fsqEafyz0OJ4eM5oIZUyDZ6EsNA fjHfgiWQgK0= =EBeF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 19:02:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA22810 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:02:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14798; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:57:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14503; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.rconnect.com (ns5.rconnect.com [209.163.30.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14482; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:57:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jeff (pmwino6-96.rconnect.com [209.163.15.96]) by ns1.rconnect.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA26751 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:57:42 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeff & Angie" To: Subject: Unsubscribe Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:59:36 -0500 Message-ID: <01bdf633$fbf2cbc0$600fa3d1@jeff> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: Unsubscribe -----Original Message----- From: twidar@dc.jones.com To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, October 12, 1998 9:27 AM Subject: unscribe unscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 19:44:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA23309 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16685; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:40:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16430; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:40:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailbox.uq.edu.au (root@dingo.cc.uq.edu.au [130.102.2.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16398; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:40:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cadaver89.anatomy.uq.edu.au ([130.102.138.89]) by mailbox.uq.edu.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA30653 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:40:28 +1000 (GMT+1000) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:40:28 +1000 (GMT+1000) Message-Id: <199810122340.JAA30653@mailbox.uq.edu.au> X-Sender: andpaul@dingo.uq.edu.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Darren J. Paul" Subject: Still having problems with phantom FDD List-Unsubscribe: Hi People, Thank you to those who responded to my recent call for help. The problem was that my Thinkpad 760XL kept looking for the external floppy disk drive immediately after initial startup and program loading, and repeatedly during file operations in Windows Explorer (such as moving or opening files, or altering shortcuts). When the FDD was not attached (as is usual) the machine would pause for up to 30 seconds or so during each of these access attempts. Well, I've tried everyone's suggestions, but the problem still remains. There appear to be no registry entries pointing to the FDD, and no entries in any ini, bat or sys files. Removing programs from the various startup avenues does not alter the problem. About the only thing I can think of left to try is to go into the BIOS and remove the FDD. Perhaps this will solve the problem, or at least force an error message from the offending program. I have an external LS120 drive also, so the loss of the FDD won't be such a problem (unless I need to boot >from it, that is). Can anyone tell me the key combination to access the BIOS please? Thanks. Darren. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 20:06:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA23562 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:05:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18133; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:05:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:01:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17659; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:01:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17641; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:01:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA28065; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:01:00 -1000 Message-ID: <001601bdf63c$99af11e0$eec52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: , "Darren J. Paul" Subject: Re: Still having problems with phantom FDD Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:00:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >About the only thing I can think of left to try is to go into the BIOS and >remove the FDD. Perhaps this will solve the problem Before you do this, try removing the floppy from your hardware configuration in the device manager. The most reliable way to do this is to boot up with the drive *connected* (otherwise it might not show up in the device manager), then set it to disabled it in the obvious way. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 21:19:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA24274 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:19:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20895; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:19:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:14:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20691; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:14:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tigereye.hknet.com (tigereye.hknet.com [202.67.240.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20678; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:14:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from topaz.hknet.com (topaz.hknet.com [202.67.240.226]) by tigereye.hknet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04858 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:13:51 +0800 (HKT) Received: from hk.super.net (mp31114.hknet.com [202.67.234.114]) by topaz.hknet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27162 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:29:14 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <362351DE.B0873ECB@hk.super.net> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:13:03 -0400 From: Pun Chan Fai X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad mail Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I want the digest format mailing list. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 13 00:10:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA25820 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 00:10:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26704; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 00:10:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 00:06:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26453; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 00:06:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26438; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 00:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bp ([12.70.16.57]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981013040616.UOQ16714@bp>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 04:06:16 +0000 Message-ID: <3622D1C1.F3C@worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 00:06:25 -0400 From: BirgerPetterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Suttle CC: os2user , Think Pad List Subject: Re: IRQ for SCSI PC References: <362243F0.95E86130@ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Joe Suttle wrote: > Has anyone had experience with the Panasonic KXL-783A PCMCIA CD-ROM?> Yes- its great- used on 770 1AU. I used irq9. Manual gives instructions for 3.1,95.and OS2. Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 13 01:34:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA26569 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29471; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:29:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29264; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.ibm.net (out4.ibm.net [165.87.194.239]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29251; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:29:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm.net (slip166-72-80-251.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.80.251]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id FAA47278; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 05:28:48 GMT Message-ID: <3622E59C.CDF29533@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 22:31:08 -0700 From: Joe Suttle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net CC: os2user , Think Pad List Subject: Re: IRQ for SCSI PC References: <362243F0.95E86130@ibm.net> <3622D1C1.F3C@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Birger Petterson wrote: --- snip --- Joe Suttle wrote: > Has anyone had experience with the Panasonic KXL-783A PCMCIA CD-ROM?> Yes- its great- used on 770 1AU. I used irq9. Manual gives instructions for 3.1,95.and OS2 --- end snip --- Have a problem, as my manual did not give any instructions for changing interrupt under OS/2 driver. Told me how to install it, but gives no info on what to put on the driver line in config.sys. Without that, there is no way to force Warp 4 to use a different interrupt. -- Joe Suttle * Warp Certified System Expert joesuttle@ibm.net Hercules, California +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Nurture your mind with great thoughts, for you will never go any higher than you think. - Benjamin Disraeli +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Powered by OS/2 Warp 4 fp7, Warp Server, SmartSuite and Netscape 4.04 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 13 01:37:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA26594 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:37:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29843; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:34:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29501; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from didim.cypronet.net ([193.192.125.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29456; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from parkhill@localhost) by didim.cypronet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA00689; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 22:29:58 +0300 Message-Id: <199710011929.WAA00689@didim.cypronet.net> From: "Thom Parkhill" To: "thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:42:32 -0300 Reply-To: "Thom Parkhill" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Netbios & ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: Paul asked, "Anyone here have OS/2, a ThinkPad (preferably a 701), and a 3COM PCMCIA NIC?" I'm not sure what a "NIC" is, but I'm going to assume since Home and Away cards were being discussed, that this is a LAN / Modem Combo card. If I've assumed right, I can answer: I have a 3Com EtherLink III LAN & 33.6 Modem PC Card which I have yet to get running with Warp 4 (fixpack 7) on a ThinkPad 380D. I've had expert help from a person who finally got her identical card running under Warp, but not on a ThinkPad. I would suggest being very careful with the 3Com "combo" that are designed to have the two "sides" share an IRQ. Warp does not allow this and in my experience the 3Com software workaround (3switch.exe) doesn't work with my configuration. Instead the PC Card drivers and the 3com drivers duked it out. I lost. Just a faulty card? No. That was the worst of it. The thing worked (at least the modem side worked) fine under WIN95 where IRQs can be shared. Using an external modem.... Thom Parkhill .................................. Thom. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 13 02:19:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA26984 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 02:19:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01224; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 02:19:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 02:15:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01043; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 02:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01027; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 02:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p27.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.90]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA05278; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810130612.XAA05278@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Turgut Kalfaoglu" Date: Mon, 12 Oct 98 23:13:23 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: NetBios & ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 22:21:36 -0100 (IZM), Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>I wouldn't get a Linksys however, because someone here mentioned that >>they wouldn't support OS/2 in his instance. > >LinkSys works OK with OS/2. I am using it on my TP600. > >However, plugging and unplugging it hangs OS/2. > >Btw, I installed Win98 on dual boot on the TP600, and >that,too, hangs if I plug/unplug the card while the machine >is running. So, it may be the OS doing it too, or BIOS? >No idea. -turgut Probably the card and/or it's drivers. I think I'll end up getting a 3COM card, because they're my personal favorite brand. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 13 02:46:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA27141 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 02:46:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02100; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 02:46:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 02:43:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01945; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 02:43:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send104.yahoomail.com (send104.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.122]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01933; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 02:43:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19981013064613.26149.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.156.155.214] by send104.yahoomail.com; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:46:13 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:46:13 -0700 (PDT) From: H Doan Subject: New Thinkpads announced today To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,27459,00.html?st.ne.fd.mdh a $1499 TFT, 266mhz thinkpad with 600 form factor. Wow. I should have held out a few more weeks. Geez HD anyone wanna buy a 560E w/ 80 megs of ram? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 13 03:17:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA27298 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 03:17:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04149; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 03:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 03:15:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04002; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 03:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03963; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 03:14:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p27.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.90]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA07339; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 00:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810130711.AAA07339@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Thom Parkhill" Date: Tue, 13 Oct 98 00:12:44 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Netbios & ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:42:32 -0300, Thom Parkhill wrote: >Paul asked, > >"Anyone here have OS/2, a ThinkPad (preferably a 701), and a 3COM PCMCIA NIC?" > >I'm not sure what a "NIC" is, In English, it means Network Interface Card, and in another language, it means a very bad word. but I'm going to assume since Home and Away cards were >being discussed, that this is a LAN / Modem Combo card. If I've assumed right, I can >answer: > Well, not nessecarily a combo, but a LAN card. >I have a 3Com EtherLink III LAN & 33.6 Modem PC Card which I have yet to get running >with Warp 4 (fixpack 7) on a ThinkPad 380D. I've had expert help from a person who >finally got her identical card running under Warp, but not on a ThinkPad. I would >suggest being very careful with the 3Com "combo" that are designed to have the two >"sides" share an IRQ. Warp does not allow this and in my experience the 3Com >software workaround (3switch.exe) doesn't work with my configuration. Instead the PC >Card drivers and the 3com drivers duked it out. I lost. > Ahh, so it's not just IBM cards that have the problem (though I find the H&A to be cheapy in general). >Just a faulty card? No. That was the worst of it. The thing worked (at least the modem >side worked) fine under WIN95 where IRQs can be shared. > IRQs can be shared in Windows?!? >Using an external modem.... > Hmmm? Maybe I'll be better off with a ethernet-exclusively card. Anyone here using/tried wireless? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Proudly running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.4, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 13 03:54:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA27502 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 03:54:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05491; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 03:54:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 03:50:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05269; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 03:50:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05255; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 03:50:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA32753 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:51:41 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199810130651.JAA32753@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:49:50 -0100 (TUR) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <199810130612.XAA05278@ritchie.loop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: NetBios & ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>I wouldn't get a Linksys however, because someone here mentioned that >>>they wouldn't support OS/2 in his instance. >>LinkSys works OK with OS/2. I am using it on my TP600. >>However, plugging and unplugging it hangs OS/2. >>Btw, I installed Win98 on dual boot on the TP600, and >>that,too, hangs if I plug/unplug the card while the machine >>is running. So, it may be the OS doing it too, or BIOS? >>No idea. -turgut >Probably the card and/or it's drivers. But this did not happen with Windows 95 that was preloaded on my TP600. Only with Win98's 'super duper' built-in PCMCIA support, it croaks. - -turgut - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNiM+XjJjYwErN0xZAQHnNAP/XwqEKnh+Y5WO0jkM1STC6fxdkn/Ke7zP +6qpEBFDvHlNWhQf2RX+W9iEaDPJWXMUARdv/2PKvTBz0fgSYd3BfO6nEG0cWZzd d3KQ4oY2Nxmf+egTiQ/M7ol+3OxQqUfnsIUb2sSwZj2thZvfd3RRO2Lbimg9Pm+D bc4P187YVuY= =8C3U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Windows Error 039: Please Insert Your Favorite Error Here From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 13 11:08:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA00984 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27961; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:07:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:00:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27338; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:00:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27289; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:59:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:58:19 -0400 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-5.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id KAA13697; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:57:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36236A85.662AE969@csc.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:58:13 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Darren J. Paul" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Still having problems with phantom FDD References: <199810122340.JAA30653@mailbox.uq.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I don't recall all of the previous responses to your issue, so I'll offer a few ideas that you didn't mention: - Do you use virus protection? Turn it off and see if the problem disappears. Check for virus scanner options related to the floppy drive. - Clear your Documents menu (recently used documents list on the Start menu). You might have a file from the A: drive on that list. Windows attempts to verify those entries at certain times during Explorer use. Clear by right clicking on task bar and choosing properties, then 'Start Menu Programs' tab. - How thoroughly did you look through the registry? I'm not doubting your competence, but Run keys are scattered about in some hard-to-find places. Do a search from the root level for "A:" and another for "Run". You might try removing any programs found under Run one at a time to see if the problem goes away (with a reboot each time, of course). - Some program that was installed might have associated a file type action with certain file extensions. You would probably find this via a registry search for A:, but I don't know for sure. The only other way I know to check this is to go to View..Options..File Types from Explorer and look through the list. Very tedious that way. Good luck! Rob ------------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob_bell@nospam@csi.com ------------------------------------------- Darren J. Paul wrote: > > Hi People, > > Thank you to those who responded to my recent call for help. The problem > was that my Thinkpad 760XL kept looking for the external floppy disk drive > immediately after initial startup and program loading, and repeatedly during > file operations in Windows Explorer (such as moving or opening files, or > altering shortcuts). When the FDD was not attached (as is usual) the > machine would pause for up to 30 seconds or so during each of these access > attempts. > > Well, I've tried everyone's suggestions, but the problem still remains. > There appear to be no registry entries pointing to the FDD, and no entries > in any ini, bat or sys files. Removing programs from the various startup > avenues does not alter the problem. > > About the only thing I can think of left to try is to go into the BIOS and > remove the FDD. Perhaps this will solve the problem, or at least force an > error message from the offending program. I have an external LS120 drive > also, so the loss of the FDD won't be such a problem (unless I need to boot > from it, that is). > > Can anyone tell me the key combination to access the BIOS please? > > Thanks. > > Darren. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 13 11:19:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA01105 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:18:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28638; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:17:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:13:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28327; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:13:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu (root@post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28315; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unixs1.cis.pitt.edu (terst11@unixs1.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.31]) by post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu with SMTP (8.8.8/8.8.8/cispo-7.2.2.2) ID for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:13:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim X-Sender: terst11@unixs1.cis.pitt.edu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 13 11:46:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA01441 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:46:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00581; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:45:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:42:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00238; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:42:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ankle.uplanet.com (host-189-2.uplanet.com [208.232.189.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00225; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ankle.uplanet.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19981013084155.S540@ankle.uplanet.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:41:55 -0700 From: Jesse Montrose To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: New Thinkpads announced today Reply-To: jesse@spine.com Mail-Followup-To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu References: <19981013064613.26149.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <19981013064613.26149.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com>; from H Doan on Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 11:46:13PM -0700 List-Unsubscribe: Don't dump that 560E just yet, I can't find a weight spec on the site :) It looks suspiciously large to me, larger than the 600s. Anyone know what it weighs? On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 11:46:13PM -0700, H Doan wrote: > > http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,27459,00.html?st.ne.fd.mdh > > a $1499 TFT, 266mhz thinkpad with 600 form factor. Wow. > I should have held out a few more weeks. > > Geez > HD > anyone wanna buy a 560E w/ 80 megs of ram? > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 13 13:04:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02626 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:04:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05627; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:59:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05192; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:59:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Newman.GSC.GTE.Com (N2071758867.GSC.GTE.Com [207.175.88.67]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05087; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:58:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gscex01.gsc.gte.com ("port 3559"@gscex01.ndhm.gtegsc.com [155.95.162.170]) by Newman.GSC.GTE.Com (PMDF V5.2-27 #29038) with ESMTP id <01J2X8AG3F3G0005EL@Newman.GSC.GTE.Com> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:55:11 EDT Received: by gscex01.ndhm.gtegsc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <43786LFR>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:52:57 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:58:39 -0400 From: "Chan, Dave" Subject: RE: New Thinkpads announced today To: jesse@spine.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: According to the System Specification sheet listed under the Product Information section of the support page: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- i1400: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/BMOE-3YYHZK.html PHYSICAL SPECIFICATIONS: (1) ThinkPad i Series 14xx w/3.2 GB HDD w/12.1-inch SVGA TFT (US, AP, CAN, EMEA) Width: 332.0 mm (13.1 in) Depth: 258.0 mm (10.1 in) Height: 47.0 mm (1.85 in) Weight: 3.4 kg (7.5 lb) ThinkPad i Series 14xx w/4.3 GB HDD w/13.3-inch XGA TFT ( US, AP, CAN) Width: 332.0 mm (13.1 in) Depth: 258.0 mm (10.1 in) Height: 47.0 mm (1.85 in) Weight: 3.5 kg (7.7 lb) (1) Actual specifications may vary based on features, vendor components, or manufacturing process. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- i1720: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/BMOE-3YYJZG.html PHYSICAL SPECIFICATIONS: (1) ThinkPad i Series 1720 - 13.3-inch 1024 x 768 TFT 4.3 GB HDD w/CD-ROM Width: 315.0 mm (12.4 in) Depth: 255.0 mm (10.0 in) Height: 45.7 mm (1.8 in) Weight: 3.4 kg (7.51 lb) (2) (1) Actual specifications may vary based on features, vendor components, or manufacturing process. (2) Includes battery and HDD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- versus 600 (41U model): Weight: 5.32lbs Height: 1.4 inches Width: 11.8 inches Depth: 9.4 inches -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Montrose [mailto:jesse@spine.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 11:42 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: New Thinkpads announced today Don't dump that 560E just yet, I can't find a weight spec on the site :) It looks suspiciously large to me, larger than the 600s. Anyone know what it weighs? On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 11:46:13PM -0700, H Doan wrote: > > http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,27459,00.html?st.ne.fd.mdh > > a $1499 TFT, 266mhz thinkpad with 600 form factor. Wow. > I should have held out a few more weeks. > > Geez > HD > anyone wanna buy a 560E w/ 80 megs of ram? > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 13 13:11:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02740 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:11:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06433; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:11:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:07:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06040; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from glacier.binc.net (glacier.binc.net [205.173.176.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06020; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:07:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rkarp (msn-5-5.binc.net [205.173.178.84]) by glacier.binc.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA05496; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:06:46 -0500 Message-ID: <000401bdf6cb$b221de80$54b2adcd@rkarp.humana.com> Reply-To: "Robert J. Karp" From: "Robert J. Karp" To: "Rob Bell" , "Darren J. Paul" Cc: Subject: Re: Still having problems with phantom FDD Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:05:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: My G_d ... I'm sorry I didn't think of this sooner: You likely have a shortcut in your \Windows\PIF folder that points to a program you once ran >from the FDD. You can try emptying the folder from within Windows but that might not work. If not, start the machine in true DOS mode then delete the folder altogether, then recreate it. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: Rob Bell To: Darren J. Paul Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 10:03 AM Subject: Re: Still having problems with phantom FDD >I don't recall all of the previous responses to your issue, so I'll >offer a few ideas that you didn't mention: > > - Do you use virus protection? Turn it off and see if the problem >disappears. Check for virus scanner options related to the floppy >drive. > - Clear your Documents menu (recently used documents list on the Start >menu). You might have a file from the A: drive on that list. Windows >attempts to verify those entries at certain times during Explorer use. >Clear by right clicking on task bar and choosing properties, then 'Start >Menu Programs' tab. > - How thoroughly did you look through the registry? I'm not doubting >your competence, but Run keys are scattered about in some hard-to-find >places. Do a search from the root level for "A:" and another for >"Run". You might try removing any programs found under Run one at a >time to see if the problem goes away (with a reboot each time, of >course). > - Some program that was installed might have associated a file type >action with certain file extensions. You would probably find this via a >registry search for A:, but I don't know for sure. The only other way I >know to check this is to go to View..Options..File Types from Explorer >and look through the list. Very tedious that way. > >Good luck! > >Rob > >------------------------------------------- >Rob Bell >Senior Consultant, CPD Professional >CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN >rob_bell@nospam@csi.com >------------------------------------------- > > >Darren J. Paul wrote: >> >> Hi People, >> >> Thank you to those who responded to my recent call for help. The problem >> was that my Thinkpad 760XL kept looking for the external floppy disk drive >> immediately after initial startup and program loading, and repeatedly during >> file operations in Windows Explorer (such as moving or opening files, or >> altering shortcuts). When the FDD was not attached (as is usual) the >> machine would pause for up to 30 seconds or so during each of these access >> attempts. >> >> Well, I've tried everyone's suggestions, but the problem still remains. >> There appear to be no registry entries pointing to the FDD, and no entries >> in any ini, bat or sys files. Removing programs from the various startup >> avenues does not alter the problem. >> >> About the only thing I can think of left to try is to go into the BIOS and >> remove the FDD. Perhaps this will solve the problem, or at least force an >> error message from the offending program. I have an external LS120 drive >> also, so the loss of the FDD won't be such a problem (unless I need to boot >> from it, that is). >> >> Can anyone tell me the key combination to access the BIOS please? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Darren. > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 13 13:17:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02805 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:17:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07033; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:16:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:13:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06610; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send1e.yahoomail.com (send1e.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06583; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:13:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19981013171008.20625.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.156.155.214] by send1e; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:10:08 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:10:08 -0700 (PDT) From: H Doan Subject: RE: New Thinkpads announced today To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, "Chan, Dave" , jesse@spine.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: ---"Chan, Dave" wrote: > > versus > > 600 (41U model): > Weight: 5.32lbs > Height: 1.4 inches > Width: 11.8 inches > Depth: 9.4 inches makes sense.. I don't feel so bad now. Only prob is I wish I can have more ram for my 560E. 80 meg is low (for what I use it for). -HD _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 13 14:29:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA03692 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11663; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:28:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10961; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10940; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:17:29 -0400 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-5.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id OAA13844; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:17:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36239943.3E2E27F8@csc.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:17:39 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Robert J. Karp" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Still having problems with phantom FDD References: <000401bdf6cb$b221de80$54b2adcd@rkarp.humana.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Robert J. Karp wrote: > > My G_d ... I'm sorry I didn't think of this sooner: You likely have a > shortcut in your \Windows\PIF folder that points to a program you once ran > from the FDD. You can try emptying the folder from within Windows but that > might not work. If not, start the machine in true DOS mode then delete the > folder altogether, then recreate it. Good luck! What's the PIF folder? I don't think I've heard of that, and I'm not at a Win95 PC to check it. Curious, Rob ---------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob_bell@nospam@csi.com ---------------------------------------- P.S. Some programs, such as Internet Explorer, might keep track of files you've accessed on the floppy drive (maybe an HTML page or an image). Both IE and Netscape keep a list of the last X addresses you've accessed with the browser. They might be causing the problem. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 13 18:07:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA06495 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:07:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26681; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:07:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:03:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26416; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:03:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from glacier.binc.net (glacier.binc.net [205.173.176.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26403; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:03:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rkarp (msn-1-90.x2.binc.net [198.70.31.90]) by glacier.binc.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA30073; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:01:22 -0500 Message-ID: <000c01bdf6f5$02be7aa0$5a1f46c6@rkarp> From: "Robert J. Karp" To: "Rob Bell" Cc: Subject: Re: Still having problems with phantom FDD Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:01:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: It's just another folder. Windows stores shortcuts to MS-DOS programs there, programs that aren't on your local HDD. -----Original Message----- From: Rob Bell To: Robert J. Karp Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 1:22 PM Subject: Re: Still having problems with phantom FDD >Robert J. Karp wrote: >> >> My G_d ... I'm sorry I didn't think of this sooner: You likely have a >> shortcut in your \Windows\PIF folder that points to a program you once ran >> from the FDD. You can try emptying the folder from within Windows but that >> might not work. If not, start the machine in true DOS mode then delete the >> folder altogether, then recreate it. Good luck! > > >What's the PIF folder? I don't think I've heard of that, and I'm not at >a Win95 PC to check it. > >Curious, >Rob > >---------------------------------------- >Rob Bell >Senior Consultant, CPD Professional >CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN >rob_bell@nospam@csi.com >---------------------------------------- > > >P.S. Some programs, such as Internet Explorer, might keep track of >files you've accessed on the floppy drive (maybe an HTML page or an >image). Both IE and Netscape keep a list of the last X addresses you've >accessed with the browser. They might be causing the problem. > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 14 05:46:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA13890 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 05:46:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA27576; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 05:45:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 05:41:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA27314; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 05:41:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA27290; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 05:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA25346 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:41:21 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199810140841.LAA25346@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:39:23 -0100 (TUR) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Memory specs? power? List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Greetings; I live in Turkey and I'd like to upgrade my TP600's RAM.. I opened up the back and I was surprised to see the size of the slots; I was hoping it used the regular DIMMs common to PII server these days. Anyway, I was wondering: 1) What is the going rate for 32M of our special RAMs? 2) Do you have a place you can recommend for mail-ordering them in? (I doubt I'll be able to find them here easily) 3) What do we ask for? is there a special name/number that goes with our RAMs? Actually, I have the same question for a power supply as well; I'd like to get a second one and leave the second one at work.. Hmm, I wonder if a 'generic' power adaptor like you find in department stores would work? I'd hate to fry up the TP600 :) Many thanks! - -turgut - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNiSpizJjYwErN0xZAQGzGAP7Bq97r7hMJTX8ZjML/esR72sOaGauzuYr SBkgiLa+xyiYxXSYJ7lfW35PgZzp5FmUzp4brvywTAFIppbdiV7jYzxCd/CBk8cl QKN/LOWaTQW7/lHYhxeSouXkZOToWicCqJUpmKx4FpwgtjRzP+CZkagy9nTihFD/ hzB9TIdnBaQ= =3xzf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Windows Error 039: Please Insert Your Favorite Error Here From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 14 14:41:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA20016 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:41:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22119; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:40:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:34:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21687; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:34:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21673; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:33:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (11.p1.Ascend13.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.169.139]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id OAA01872 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:33:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3624EEDA.41CC3836@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:35:06 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: is the list still working..?? References: <000401bdf6cb$b221de80$54b2adcd@rkarp.humana.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: there seems to be little activity.. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Subject to prior sale, your mileage will vary, done on a closed road with a professional driver, do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 14 15:36:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA20904 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:36:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22732; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:44:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:41:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22275; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22232; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:40:30 -0400 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (chi-dnnvn-027.il.compuserve.net [209.154.112.27]) by hil-img-ims-1.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id OAA08217; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:39:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3624F016.39857D2A@csc.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:40:22 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Morrow CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: is the list still working..?? 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Bill Morrow wrote: > > there seems to be little activity.. > > -- > Happy Trails... ------------------------------------------ Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob_bell@nospam@csi.com ------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 14 16:58:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA22038 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01160; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:57:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:50:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00422; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:50:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from munich.netsurf.de (laurin.munich.netsurf.de [194.64.166.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00348; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:50:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from garfield.munich.netsurf.de (root@ns1195.munich.netsurf.de [195.180.235.195]) by munich.netsurf.de (8.8.5/8.7) with ESMTP id WAA18315 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:50:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from prudolph@localhost) by garfield.munich.netsurf.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19302 for THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:49:06 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:49:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Rudolph To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Can a TP screen get dim/darker over time...? List-Unsubscribe: Hi everybody, I'm the proud owner of a TP701C (*the* ThinkPad ;-)) and I'm happy with that machine for about three years now. But recently I have the impression hat the screen is not that bright anymore as it was when I bought it. Could it be that the backlight is getting dimmer over time? I also tried to clean the screen (just with a wet cloth&detergent) but actually it seems to be very clean already. I noticed the effect mostly when I had a brandnew Toshiba 480CDT sitting next to my aged TP on my desk (I had to do some work for the company on the Toshiba) - the sun was shining and I couldn't read anything anymore on my TP screen while the Toshiba screen was perfectly readable. Thanks for any reply to shine some light (sic) on this issue, Just curious, Peter. --- Fortune Cookie: It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 14 17:11:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA22247 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:11:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02205; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:08:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01978; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:08:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.netwiz.net (Mail.NetWiz.Net [208.136.106.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01934; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:08:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [208.135.14.42] (Megan.NetWizards.Net [208.136.106.5]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA12016 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:08:21 -0700 X-Sender: mikeford@mail.netwiz.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3624F016.39857D2A@csc.com> References: <000401bdf6cb$b221de80$54b2adcd@rkarp.humana.com> <3624EEDA.41CC3836@icanect.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:06:58 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mike Ford Subject: Which 95 for my 365XD? List-Unsubscribe: We have a 365XD, 24/810/4x with a port replicator and the infamous Home and Away 14.4k combo card. My understanding is that it has W95a on it, and I am wondering if that is the best choice. Should I buy a W95a CDROM, or is one available from IBM to restore the system (those emergency floppies are for the birds)? Several games I have tried to play that use Directx don't like my video driver, they say I don't have a compatible one or can't find it. Everything else works just fine. BTW I have other external modems I can use, but I would like to take advantage of the ethernet on the H&A to connect to a 10bt home lan that is stirring right now. Thanks, Mike Ford From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 14 18:44:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA23437 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:44:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06179; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:44:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:41:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05923; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:41:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.rconnect.com (ns5.rconnect.com [209.163.30.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05911; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:40:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jeff (pmwino3-53.rconnect.com [209.163.15.53]) by ns1.rconnect.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA10690 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:40:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeff & Angie" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Unsubscribe Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:42:49 -0500 Message-ID: <01bdf7c3$f85befa0$350fa3d1@jeff> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01BDF79A.0F85E7A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BDF79A.0F85E7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How do I unsubscribe from this list? ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BDF79A.0F85E7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BDF79A.0F85E7A0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 14 19:11:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA23770 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:11:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07439; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:10:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:06:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07228; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:06:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from x10.boston.juno.com (x10.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07213; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from n2ste@juno.com) by x10.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DRKAVSB9; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:06:11 EDT To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:01:43 -0400 Subject: unsubscribe Message-ID: <19981014.190318.-443355.1.n2ste@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: n2ste@juno.com (TJ Hvasta) List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe please, thanks TJ, n2ste@juno.com skygodtj@att.net ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 14 19:38:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA24128 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:38:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08453; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:38:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:35:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08275; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08257; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:35:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from Ihsbooks@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id CFRNa02343 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <11dee8f2.36253532@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:35:14 EDT To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: looking for Co. in Dallas TX Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 List-Unsubscribe: hey, I never did order the 3.5" drive that was supposed to work with my 701C. It was offered by a mail order place in dallas, Big??? maybe. I had even called them to go by & pick it up, but just never did..... I am ready to spend the shipping costs even, to have a 3.5" disk availability. Having to re-boot to connect Zip drive gets to be a pain. I seem to remember someone saying that the one they offered wasn't IBM but would work & it was only $12 lora From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 14 19:41:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA24167 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08906; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:39:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08642; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:39:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08620; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:39:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from Ihsbooks@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id CSHa019215 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:38:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8e124c7.362535ed@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:38:21 EDT To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: okay now CD drive for 701C Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 List-Unsubscribe: okay, now any ideas about getting an external CD Rom drive for my 701C "cheap" I do have a PCM whatever slot, but have no idea how to use it. I defected from my thinkpad & bought an Acer that had "everything", CD, 3.5" drive, 225mghz, etc. BUT, by IBM is still quite usuable & am willing to spend "little" to do what I can for it. At least my kids can use it, etc. Lora From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 14 19:53:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA24421 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:53:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09746; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:53:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:50:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09548; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA (reg.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09533; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:50:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:50:33 PST From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: , Subject: Re: looking for Co. in Dallas TX Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:01:32 -0700 Message-ID: <01bdf7ce$f788c020$03785a8e@pmachule> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: The company is B. G. Micro 1-800-276-2206 The drive works fine ...BUT you will need a different cable. The Cable that you have works fine. (If you still have it) ..peter.. -----Original Message----- From: Ihsbooks@aol.com To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 5:36 PM Subject: Re: looking for Co. in Dallas TX >hey, I never did order the 3.5" drive that was supposed to work with my 701C. > >It was offered by a mail order place in dallas, Big??? maybe. I had even >called them to go by & pick it up, but just never did..... I am ready to >spend the shipping costs even, to have a 3.5" disk availability. Having to >re-boot to connect Zip drive gets to be a pain. > >I seem to remember someone saying that the one they offered wasn't IBM but >would work & it was only $12 > >lora From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 14 19:58:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA24510 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10413; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:58:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:56:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10110; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:56:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from baker.cnw.com (root@baker.cnw.com [206.40.133.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10092; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:55:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from TEST (dyn-128-24.mtvernon.cnw.net [207.149.128.24]) by baker.cnw.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA00394; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810142359.QAA00394@baker.cnw.com> From: Jon Stables Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:55:45 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, In-Reply-To: <01BDBD48.0FB11380.Brianb@datasync.com> Subject: TP701 floppy, was Re: looking for Co. in Dallas TX X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.47a b48 List-Unsubscribe: In <11dee8f2.36253532@aol.com>, on 10/14/98 at 07:35 PM, said: >hey, I never did order the 3.5" drive that was supposed to work with my >701C. >It was offered by a mail order place in dallas, Big??? maybe. I had >even called them to go by & pick it up, but just never did..... I am >ready to spend the shipping costs even, to have a 3.5" disk availability. >Having to re-boot to connect Zip drive gets to be a pain. >I seem to remember someone saying that the one they offered wasn't IBM >but would work & it was only $12 On 08/01/98 Brian Bream said: >Here is some useful 701 floppy stuff: >Floppy drive: Dell ext Laptop floppy (Black case, Dell branded) works >with my 701 available from: >http://bgm.bgmicro.com/scripts/bgminc.dll/display$COM1111 >the price is $12.50 + S&H >Floppy drive: IBM part# 10H4056 $76.75 >Floppy drive cable: IBM part# 04H6916 $29.00 >EPP cable and FDD cable pack (Floppy and Parallel cable) IBM part# >10H4070 $45.25 (This is a FRU for Part number 10H4069 that has been >discontinued) >Available from who else (IBM) :-) Vicky -- ___________________________________________________________ Vicky Stables, CPA stables@cnw.com ___________________________________________________________ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 14 19:59:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA24534 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10563; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:58:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:56:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10178; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from post5.inre.asu.edu (post5.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.86]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10155; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aztec2.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #24133) with ESMTP id <01J2YUZ87JCC9CN6IA@asu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:55:54 MST Received: (from elizaw@localhost) by aztec2.asu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA07025; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:55:51 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:55:51 -0700 (MST) From: elizaw@aztec.asu.edu (ELIZA) Subject: the nuts and bolts of unsubscribing To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: elizaw@aztec2.asu.edu Reply-to: elizaw@aztec.asu.edu Message-id: <199810142355.QAA07025@aztec2.asu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: UNSUBSCRIBE: A VERY FAQ Q: unsubscribe me, please and thanks A: you have to unsubscribe yourself, as in any other list just follow the directions inserted within the full headers of your own message: List-Unsubscribe: From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 15 08:03:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA02086 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:03:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08465; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:02:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:59:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08275; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:59:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgate.wizvax.net (root@mailgate.wizvax.net [199.181.141.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08263; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mrhuey.wizvax.net (mrhuey.wizvax.net [204.97.161.134]) by mailgate.wizvax.net (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id HAA15563; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:59:38 -0400 Received: by mrhuey.wizvax.net (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.01/2.12um) id HAA000.63; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:59:25 -0400 From: mrhuey@wizvax.wizvax.net (Ramsay D. Seielstad) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Cc: mrhuey@wizvax.net Subject: 365xd Video Problem Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:40:46 -0400 Organization: WizVax Communications, Troy, New York, USA Reply-To: Ramsay D. Seielstad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <+8dJ2oJPMCaJ090yn@wizvax.wizvax.net> Lines: 49 List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Howdy all, I've had my 365xd for almost two years now and never had a problem with it until the other day. The problem is when I power up, the screen no longer has any color, everything displays in a foggy, hazy white/light gray. I tried tapping the machine from various angles a few times. I've found that a sharp jab (probably not an approved fix) to the left side of the screen near the lid hinge point occasionally restores the color to the screen. However, this does not always work. I've also noticed that should I flip the lid down to suspend and then re-open to continue where I left off, the condition again reappears. I'm guessing I may have a cable problem since I can still get the problem resolved with my fix. I suspect however that my fix isn't a good solid repair though. Anyone have any ideas? I suspect I'm definitively 'out of warranty' so I'm not averse to openning up the case myself if there is an easy fix for this. - -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Ramsay D. Seielstad | mrhuey@wizvax.net; Af029@Detroit.Freenet.Org | | Schenectady, NY | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | "No fancy terminators or trailers, No opinion, Just an average, everyday | | guy with a bunch of unrelated hobbyist activities that have no significant | | use or value other than to amuse myself and occupy my free time ... and | | trust me, these ain't MY employer's opinions or views" | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | To obtain my PGP Public Key: finger mrhuey@wizvax.net | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNiXvghh6cbDiY22VAQGXgQP/Y4xfoGBw0PJc3AY3L8gg93c2l5ffKdZm VRu5jJnCYdm9e5dWqh/kEsTuH0YiIxALxRo085tpUpdd8SU/XrzvuDI8ThhsQB06 vzyYTs9fED2B7vrO62c4PZzH+3g5C2Bzlq7NrBvv0cVdvOul1C6yLfRIFjGNzccf qM2I1f6+JSw= =Fyd3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 15 09:33:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA02802 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12160; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:31:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:29:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11956; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11939; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:28:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MYHOSTNAME (slip129-37-126-40.ca.us.ibm.net [129.37.126.40]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA61930; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:28:50 GMT Message-ID: <3625F900.6233@ibm.net> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:30:40 -0400 From: "Curtis B. Wayne" Reply-To: wapcarc@ibm.net Organization: Wayne Architects, P.C. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: " Ramsay D. Seielstad" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 365xd Video Problem References: <+8dJ2oJPMCaJ090yn@wizvax.wizvax.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ramsay D. Seielstad wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Howdy all, I've had my 365xd for almost two years now and never > had a problem with it until the other day. The problem is when I > power up, the screen no longer has any color, everything displays > in a foggy, hazy white/light gray. > > I tried tapping the machine from various angles a few times. > I've found that a sharp jab (probably not an approved fix) to the > left side of the screen near the lid hinge point occasionally > restores the color to the screen. Hi. We've got 2 365XD's and one developed a very similar problem. The solution, which mystifies us and our thinkpad dealer, but which worked was to: reload the latest video driver THEN connect an external monitor THEN toggle through the display options using the Fn+F7 key combinations We found that display was fine on the external monitor and that after doing this scrolling through the display options (LCD, LCD+external monitor, external monitor only) for, oh, a half an hour FIXED THE PROBLEM. I suspect there's an EPROM that loses its settings - hence the color weirdness. I hope this works for you. IBM wants something like US$1,100 for a new screen! Curtis Wayne > > However, this does not always work. I've also noticed that > should I flip the lid down to suspend and then re-open to > continue where I left off, the condition again reappears. > > I'm guessing I may have a cable problem since I can still get > the problem resolved with my fix. I suspect however that my > fix isn't a good solid repair though. > > Anyone have any ideas? I suspect I'm definitively 'out of > warranty' so I'm not averse to openning up the case myself if > there is an easy fix for this. > > - -- > > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Ramsay D. Seielstad | mrhuey@wizvax.net; Af029@Detroit.Freenet.Org | > | Schenectady, NY | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | > +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ > | "No fancy terminators or trailers, No opinion, Just an average, everyday | > | guy with a bunch of unrelated hobbyist activities that have no significant | > | use or value other than to amuse myself and occupy my free time ... and | > | trust me, these ain't MY employer's opinions or views" | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | To obtain my PGP Public Key: finger mrhuey@wizvax.net | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.2 > > iQCVAwUBNiXvghh6cbDiY22VAQGXgQP/Y4xfoGBw0PJc3AY3L8gg93c2l5ffKdZm > VRu5jJnCYdm9e5dWqh/kEsTuH0YiIxALxRo085tpUpdd8SU/XrzvuDI8ThhsQB06 > vzyYTs9fED2B7vrO62c4PZzH+3g5C2Bzlq7NrBvv0cVdvOul1C6yLfRIFjGNzccf > qM2I1f6+JSw= > =Fyd3 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 15 09:45:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA02998 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:45:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12932; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:44:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:42:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12772; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:42:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate.qsl.com (gate.qsl.com [205.205.106.150]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12738; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:42:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by gate.qsl.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/951211.SGI.AUTO) for id JAA16977; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:54:41 -0400 Received: from alr.qsl.com(10.10.10.2) by gate via smap (3.1) id xma016971; Thu, 15 Oct 98 09:54:31 -0400 Received: from EXTRANET by alr.qsl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id T6YWA3PT; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:37:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3625FC0C.6348BF07@qsl.com> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:43:40 -0400 From: Danny X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP600 and multiple display feature?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi everyone, Can someone tell me if this feature "multiple display" that you see in the Bios (1.05)-->config-->display-->multiple display is for the multiple display feature in win98? If yes, does anyone have succesfully installed the second display? I would really appreciate any comment on this and how to install it! Thanks again P.S. If you can reply to my adresse I'd really appriate. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 15 12:01:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA04737 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:01:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20912; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:58:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20712; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:58:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20700; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:58:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (183.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.183]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id LAA05281; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:57:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36261BCD.B0F23EE0@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:59:09 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Danny CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600 and multiple display feature?? References: <3625FC0C.6348BF07@qsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Danny.. Win98 will recognise a second display when it boots up.. it will require a 2nd display card.. i.e. the thinkpad has only one display adapter, to use any multiple display feature you would need a dock and a 2nd video adapter and monitor.. Danny wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Can someone tell me if this feature "multiple display" that you see > in the Bios (1.05)-->config-->display-->multiple display is for the > multiple display feature in win98? If yes, does anyone have succesfully > installed the second display? I would really appreciate any comment on > this and how to install it! > > Thanks again > > P.S. If you can reply to my adresse I'd really appriate. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 15 12:48:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA05391 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24456; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:46:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:44:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24084; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:43:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24047; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:43:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (183.p1.Ascend03.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.51.183]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id MAA22435 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:43:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3626268D.C811D47B@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:45:01 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: re. Ultrabay ZIP-drives (ZIP insiders) References: <3625FC0C.6348BF07@qsl.com> <36261BCD.B0F23EE0@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Anyone have an answer for this fellow..? Subject: Internal ZIP and OS/2 Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:24:56 +0100 From: Martin Alfredsson Reply-To: martin@jmast.se Organization: JMA To: bill@thinkpads.com Hi ! I'm not sure if you have or even know about these things but... There are two companies that makes Ultrabay ZIP-drives (ZIP insiders). They both promise DOS/Windows/Win9x/WinNT support but none of them supports OS/2. If have sneaking feeling that a Ultrabay ZIP is identical to a ATAPI ZIP and that the same drivers applies. This would mean that the drives should work great with Warp4 FP5 or later but 1) I dont want to shell out the money to test and 2) the companies seems uninterested to test themselves. So have you tried or do you know anyone that has an ultrabay ZIP with OS/2 ?? Thanks ! /Martin jma@jmast.se -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 15 12:53:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA05544 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:53:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25175; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:51:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:49:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24879; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:49:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24862; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:49:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg137-007.ricochet.net [204.179.137.7]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA03551; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:49:03 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: , Subject: RE: okay now CD drive for 701C Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:49:02 -0700 Message-ID: <002201bdf85b$b6c99ae0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <8e124c7.362535ed@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > From: Ihsbooks@aol.com [mailto:Ihsbooks@aol.com] > > okay, now any ideas about getting an external CD Rom drive for my 701C > "cheap" > > I do have a PCM whatever slot, but have no idea how to use it. > > I defected from my thinkpad & bought an Acer that had > "everything", CD, 3.5" > drive, > 225mghz, etc. I recommend you get a couple of network cards and a crossover cable (or a hub, but you don't need one for just two machines). Once you network the machines together, then you can use the Acer's CD from the 701C--and you can do so much more. I assume the Acer has 32-bit CardBus slots, is that right? What operating system is it running, and what OS is the 701C running? -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 15 13:02:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA05729 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25789; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:59:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:57:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25627; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:57:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nt6.nettaxi.com (nt6.nettaxi.com [206.79.4.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25614; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:57:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from azrael (pool-207-205-238-184.atln.grid.net [207.205.238.184]) by nt6.nettaxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA01466 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:54:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Cold Gin" To: Subject: RE: 365xd Video Problem Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:07:34 -0500 Message-ID: <000001bdf85e$4d4f5160$b8eecdcf@azrael> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <+8dJ2oJPMCaJ090yn@wizvax.wizvax.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: What size and type is the screen? What model is your machine? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 15 13:13:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA05907 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:13:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26993; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:07:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26427; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:07:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.teleport.com (mail1.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26415; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:06:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17913 invoked from network); 15 Oct 1998 17:06:51 -0000 Received: from pdx58-i48-18.teleport.com (HELO execed4.usc.edu) (204.202.167.160) by mail1.teleport.com with SMTP; 15 Oct 1998 17:06:51 -0000 Message-ID: <3625750F.5700@teleport.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:07:43 -0700 From: Bryan Daum Organization: Allied Inspection Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: New "SXGA" TFTs on 770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone seen one yet? Apparently a breakthrough at double standard resolution -and soon even more than double. Wow. http://www.webshopper.com/jhtml/news.jhtml?aid=177792&src=nlCI0915c Bryan 701C From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 15 13:23:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA06087 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:23:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27801; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:17:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27402; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:17:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27389; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:16:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA09110; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:16:52 -1000 Message-ID: <002701bdf85f$9ca543e0$0db5ae80@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: , Subject: Re: okay now CD drive for 701C Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:16:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >okay, now any ideas about getting an external CD Rom drive for my 701C >"cheap" The going price for an 8x pcmcia cd is much less than $200; for example, bigcityexpress has the Panasonic 8x for $160. You *should* be able to find a 4x (maybe refurbished) for much less than $100, if you look hard enough. Oh, and if you want to try auctions, I think portable cd drives are a staple of auction sites. I just looked, and surplusauction has teac 6x starting at $99, and with 35 for sale I expect you can even get one at this price. However, keep in mind that products at auction frequently sell for more than the same product at the same company's non-auction site. BTW, I would avoid CMS Enhancements and IOdata - the former has known compatibility problems with Thinkpads, and I think the latter is OEMed by the same manufacturer. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 15 14:36:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA07363 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:35:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02254; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:33:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:29:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01944; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:29:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bessie.eunet.fi (bessie.eunet.fi [192.26.119.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01932; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kettu (joakim.pp.fi [193.66.77.210]) by bessie.eunet.fi (8.8.7/8.8.3) with SMTP id VAA27244; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:28:42 +0300 (EDT) From: "Jukka Ketelaars" To: "Bill Morrow" , Subject: RE: re. Ultrabay ZIP-drives (ZIP insiders) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:30:58 -0700 Message-ID: <000501bdf8bd$c5f272f0$d24d42c1@kettu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: <3626268D.C811D47B@icanect.net> List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I think that a while back IBM announced an ultrabay LS-120. You'd expect that it would work with OS/2. Has anyone bought it, and if so what were you experiences (I'm thinking of buying one for quick back up's of critical files on NT). Cheers, Jukka > So have you tried or do you know anyone that has an ultrabay ZIP > with OS/2 ?? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 15 14:59:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA07652 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:59:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03880; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:54:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03704; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03691; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:54:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from [158.152.181.205] (helo=bs28ha.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 0zTsXU-0005d9-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:54:21 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ThinkPad Zip problem Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:49:55 GMT Message-ID: <362b4380.244632358@post.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: I'm having big problems with my Zip drive/disk. First, let me put you in the picture: I have an IBM ThinkPad 760CD runing Windows 98 with a zip drive especially made by VST Technologies to fit into the ultrabay of the ThinkPad (swappable wit the CD-ROM drive). The VST zip drive has been working wonderfully for the past 10 months (with 15 zip disks) and is a lot faster than my old parallel port Zip drive and I don't need to lug around a mains adapter. Last week, to my horror, whilst transferring some files from a zip disk, the whole system crashed - no mouse movement, pressing 'ctrl-alt-del' is unresponsive, the only alternative is to flick the power switch. When this occurs, the drive's light comes on intermittently together with a whirring sound (just like when the drive is searching for data normally) for a few seconds, then quiet for a few seconds. This is repeated over and over again. Meanwhile, I cannot do anything with the machine unless I turn it off and reboot.=20 Both Iomega's diagnostic and full scandisk showed no errors. This problem is 100% reproducible every time a particular folder is accessed - even just for viewing the contents of the folder. No other folders on that zip disk or any other disks seem to be affected. On deletion of the affected folder (and losing my data!), the problem is cured. Have you seen this problem before? Is this problems with my drive or is it confined to that particular zip disk? If it is the disk, is it safe to use that disk again? Since I store a lot of important data on my zip disks, it is essential that this does not occur again. Therefore, please advise what I should do to prevent this >from occurring again. Thank you in advance for your kind assistance in this matter. Regards, Nick nick@bs28ha.demon.co.uk From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 15 15:47:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA08442 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:47:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06634; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:43:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:42:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06473; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:41:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from prioritysolutions.com (prioritysolutions.com [206.155.246.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06461; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mycroft (host7.psnet.net [206.155.246.157]) by prioritysolutions.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id T5G7DYN7; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:43:39 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Robert W. King" To: , Subject: RE: looking for Co. in Dallas TX Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:40:39 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01bdf873$b046cf40$0101c0a8@mycroft> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <11dee8f2.36253532@aol.com> List-Unsubscribe: Hi Lora! > hey, I never did order the 3.5" drive that was supposed to work > with my 701C. > > It was offered by a mail order place in Dallas, Big??? maybe. I had even > called them to go by & pick it up, but just never did..... I am ready to > spend the shipping costs even, to have a 3.5" disk availability. > Having to > re-boot to connect Zip drive gets to be a pain. > > I seem to remember someone saying that the one they offered wasn't IBM but > would work & it was only $12 Having just had my IBM external floppy drive for my 701C die of terminal dirty heads (Mechanically and electrically it's fine, but I couldn't get the heads clean enough to read a floppy in spite of repeated cleaning cycles and liberal use of isopropyl alcohol.), I ordered three drives from B.G. Micro (http://www.bgmicro.com) -- one to use, one for a spare, and a spare for my sister-in-law who also has a 701. The price was $12.50 each plus $6.50 shipping. We all know that the life of drives is finite. Having a spare already on hand for that day in the future seemed a reasonable thing to do considering the price. The drives were delivered via UPS and came with a cable that would connect them to a parallel port. However, this cable wasn't functional with my 701 which was no great surprise -- I hadn't expected it to be. I used the IBM supplied cable. The drive end of the cable and the drive itself have a compatible plug receptacle -- just unplug the IBM drive and plug in the new one. The drives are used Dell drives (Dell part number 25749) in cases that are approximately the same size as the IBM drives. The eject button is a slide button on the top of the case instead of the being on the end of the case. Frankly, I find this a little better ergonomically. You may describe me as a satisfied customer. -- Robert W. King I'm an ingenieur, NOT a bloody locomotive driver! SnailNet: 19023 TV Tower Rd, Winslow, Arkansas 72959 BellNet: 501-634-2086 InterNet: robtking@prioritysolutions.com http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/k/i/n/Robert-W-King/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 15 18:40:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA11031 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14228; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:30:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14004; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:30:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13992; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:30:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (150.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.150]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id SAA06766; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <362677C5.C9E17B08@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:31:33 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bryan Daum CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: New "SXGA" TFTs on 770 References: <3625750F.5700@teleport.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------EA7ADA991531A23567C3B463" List-Unsubscribe: --------------EA7ADA991531A23567C3B463 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit They'll be out mid november or, with luck, a bit sooner, according to my latest info.. (which can and frequently does change hourly) Bryan Daum wrote: > Has anyone seen one yet? > > Apparently a breakthrough at double standard resolution -and soon even more than > double. Wow. http://www.webshopper.com/jhtml/news.jhtml?aid=177792&src=nlCI0915c > > Bryan > 701C -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. --------------EA7ADA991531A23567C3B463 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit They'll be out mid november or, with luck, a bit sooner, according to my latest info..
(which can and frequently does change hourly)

Bryan Daum wrote:

Has anyone seen one yet?

Apparently a breakthrough at double standard resolution -and soon even more than
double.  Wow.  http://www.webshopper.com/jhtml/news.jhtml?aid=177792&src=nlCI0915c

Bryan
701C

 

--
Happy Trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
WEB page http://thinkpads.com
Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html
bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net
770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg),
760ED(3.0gig, 104meg),
701C(6.3gig, 40meg),
755CE(no gig, 40meg),
750C(no gig, 4meg),
IBM WorkPad(1meg)

Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a
closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home..
  --------------EA7ADA991531A23567C3B463-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 15 18:42:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA11073 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14648; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:36:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:34:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14357; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:34:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14345; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:34:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (150.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.150]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id SAA08063; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:34:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <362678BF.244984A3@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:35:43 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nick@bs28ha.demon.co.uk CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad Zip problem References: <362b4380.244632358@post.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have seen that problem beofre, but on HDD's when doing a lap link file transfer.. everything would come to a screeching halt when laplink got to a certain file.. never did learn what the problem was.. whatever it was it was associated with only one file that was misreporting its size.. nick@bs28ha.demon.co.uk wrote: > I'm having big problems with my Zip drive/disk. First, let me put you > in the picture: I have an IBM ThinkPad 760CD runing Windows 98 with a > zip drive especially made by VST Technologies to fit into the ultrabay > of the ThinkPad (swappable wit the CD-ROM drive). The VST zip drive > has been working wonderfully for the past 10 months (with 15 zip > disks) and is a lot faster than my old parallel port Zip drive and I > don't need to lug around a mains adapter. > > Last week, to my horror, whilst transferring some files from a zip > disk, the whole system crashed - no mouse movement, pressing > 'ctrl-alt-del' is unresponsive, the only alternative is to flick the > power switch. When this occurs, the drive's light comes on > intermittently together with a whirring sound (just like when the > drive is searching for data normally) for a few seconds, then quiet > for a few seconds. This is repeated over and over again. Meanwhile, I > cannot do anything with the machine unless I turn it off and reboot. > > Both Iomega's diagnostic and full scandisk showed no errors. This > problem is 100% reproducible every time a particular folder is > accessed - even just for viewing the contents of the folder. No other > folders on that zip disk or any other disks seem to be affected. On > deletion of the affected folder (and losing my data!), the problem is > cured. > > Have you seen this problem before? Is this problems with my drive or > is it confined to that particular zip disk? If it is the disk, is it > safe to use that disk again? Since I store a lot of > important data on my zip disks, it is essential that this does not > occur again. Therefore, please advise what I should do to prevent this > from occurring again. > > Thank you in advance for your kind assistance in this matter. > > Regards, > > Nick > nick@bs28ha.demon.co.uk -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 15 18:53:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA11241 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:53:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15553; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:50:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15431; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:50:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm02sm.pmm.mci.net (pm02sm.pmm.mci.net [208.159.126.151]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15417; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tpad (usr37-dialup51.mix2.Boston.cw.net) by PM02SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27034) with SMTP id <0F0W00GK94R0J6@PM02SM.PMM.MCI.NET> for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:49:51 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:54:00 -0400 From: Mike Wenczel Subject: 3Com Cardbus [770ED] To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <000f01bdf88e$b4afb360$334c37a6@tpad> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Priority: 3 List-Unsubscribe: Well, I finally got around to installing NT4 and did manage to get the 3Com/Megahertz 3CCFE575BT 10/100 CardBus Ethernet adapter ($100 eval pricing) running. After speaking with 3Com support, I installed NT without SystemSoft Cardwizard. I also installed the latest (last week's) BIOS. Everything works fine. I must say that one reason (besides laziness) for not installing NT sooner was that, for me, Win95b was surprisingly stable on this machine (PII 266, 128mb). What am I missing not using Cardwizard? As I reported in August, this is a great machine. Its my primary workstation and is networked to a 486/66 and a Gateway 2K P166. This is my first laptop and doesn't represent much of a compromise. Its has the best keyboard I've ever used, the best screen and, heh, I can even pick it up once a week and haul it to a client location. I have completely eliminated the eyestrain I got from the Mag 17" as well as my monitor tan. Aside of some flaky suspend/resume behavior from time to time, which doesn't really bother me, and which I haven't bothered to investigate, no complaints. Of course those new 12x10 displays sound nice...Next up is a 128mb module to replace the 32 meg. Anyone know if the IBM part is available? No...wait...I wanted a ViewSonic 21" display. We'll see. Also, haven't had any problems with the modem as I understand I should. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 15 19:38:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA12101 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17505; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:34:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17334; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:34:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17322; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:34:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hetherington.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA28498; Thu, 15 Oct 98 19:34:27 EDT Message-Id: <3626864B.EF6E6640@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:33:31 -0400 From: Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science, Spoken Language Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Wenczel Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: IBM 128MB SDRAM DIMM, was: 3Com Cardbus [770ED] References: <000f01bdf88e$b4afb360$334c37a6@tpad> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The part number for the IBM 128MB SDRAM is 11K1150. This should work on all 600s and 770s. We've got four on order due next week (for two 600s loaded with 288MB). --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 15 20:00:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA12381 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 20:00:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18446; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:57:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18333; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:57:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18321; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:57:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hetherington.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA28542; Thu, 15 Oct 98 19:56:54 EDT Message-Id: <36268B8E.D9B060D4@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:55:58 -0400 From: Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science, Spoken Language Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Wenczel , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IBM 128MB SDRAM DIMM, was: 3Com Cardbus [770ED] References: <000f01bdf88e$b4afb360$334c37a6@tpad> <3626864B.EF6E6640@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Sorry, make that 01K1150. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 15 22:22:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA14222 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23220; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:18:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23012; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:18:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm05sm.pmm.mci.net (pm05sm.pmm.mci.net [208.159.126.154]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22999; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:18:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcione.com (usr44-dialup27.mix1.WillowSprings.cw.net) by PM05SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #U2935) with ESMTP id <0F0W00DCMEE0YG@PM05SM.PMM.MCI.NET> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 02:18:02 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:20:09 -0500 From: Jim Schneider Subject: TP770 wants to use dial-up first To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <3626AD59.2C7867DF@mcione.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: My TP-770 with Win 95 has an annoying habit, whenever I do something TCP related it pops up and offers to disable windows networking on the dialup and then offers to dial out. If I did not have a ethernet lan connect as well I would perhaps understand, but this is getting a bit annoying. Any clues ? Jim Schneider From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 16 04:03:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA17456 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:03:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02750; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:01:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 03:58:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02481; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 03:58:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02468; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 03:58:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA12092; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:59:41 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199810160659.JAA12092@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Jim Schneider" Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:57:56 -0100 (TUR) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <3626AD59.2C7867DF@mcione.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP770 wants to use dial-up first List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:20:09 -0500, Jim Schneider wrote: >My TP-770 with Win 95 has an annoying habit, whenever I do something TCP >related it pops up and offers to disable windows networking on the >dialup and then offers to dial out. If I did not have a ethernet lan >connect as well I would perhaps understand, but this is getting a bit >annoying. check out www.annoyances.com they had an answer to this question - oh yes. go into my computer, control panel, internet and there is an option there to select/deselect to prevent it >from dialing out.. -t - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNic0wzJjYwErN0xZAQG33QQAk1fU53cFPw5RliBn9LmvDtRlXc3nhfbl iobaCL5ZvHsYWzBabCVn8l6KERab2NOW9m+QqpPOg83OR6TnKBf6r4FDvgwCZ09Q 1Drwf2J3TxkY+fD8BstDyrjwIkmZCHVpm4h5A7uADbtanCbm59G6NqUjMF2BRpOp a4yO1fPNJfs= =xbT5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Windows Error 002: No error...yet. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 16 04:14:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA17544 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:14:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03697; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:13:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:11:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03556; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:11:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03544; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:11:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA10326 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:12:52 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199810160712.KAA10326@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:11:07 -0100 (TUR) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP600: Can one replace the display? List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I saw on IBM's web page specs on the TFT, etc, displays for TP600.. I have the HPA display on my TP600, and I was wondering if the rest of the machine is compatible with a TFT display. In order words, can I *very carefully* grab a screwdriver and take out the old display and buy a TFT instead for it? Thanks! -turgut - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNic32zJjYwErN0xZAQGvOQP/f6L0Z4FRHjvsftMiIRVs88bZjCFm9rAM oCHIlUPxqPO/WXrILvo2j0sKLWUWYv+Ul/1WrBvPCIRHVmfl20i9rNlkHknJwHhM R3Q3qL6kSMnRps/fD4lHjGLW2s9n24LzG/YB+QGq+TR/TXugmBsyCfRB3coNGjfu yyhVRbH1Qg4= =40OC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Windows Error 020: Error recording error codes. Remaining errors lost. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 16 11:21:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA21366 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24306; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:16:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:13:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23963; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:13:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23944; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:13:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from juno.com ([12.72.36.165]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19981016151226.DQHU14133@juno.com> for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:12:26 +0000 Message-ID: <36276211.3D43C64C@juno.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:11:14 -0700 From: TJH Reply-To: skygodtj@ayeteetee.net Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Mythical Animals X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe please TJ Hvasta skygodtj@att.net n2ste@juno.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 16 12:41:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA22665 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:41:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28268; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:37:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:35:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28122; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28088; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg137-007.ricochet.net [204.179.137.7]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA28750; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:35:09 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Mike Wenczel" , Subject: RE: 3Com Cardbus [770ED] Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:35:08 -0700 Message-ID: <003901bdf922$efdb68a0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000f01bdf88e$b4afb360$334c37a6@tpad> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > From: Mike Wenczel [mailto:m.wenczel@cwix.com] > > Well, I finally got around to installing NT4 and did manage to get the > 3Com/Megahertz 3CCFE575BT 10/100 CardBus Ethernet adapter ($100 eval > pricing) running. After speaking with 3Com support, I installed NT without > SystemSoft Cardwizard. I also installed the latest (last week's) BIOS. > Everything works fine. I must say that one reason (besides > laziness) for not > installing NT sooner was that, for me, Win95b was surprisingly stable on > this machine (PII 266, 128mb). Is this with the 2.0 3Com drivers? What settings is the card using? I never got a 3CCFE575BT (where do they get these model numbers?!) to work under NT on either a TP600 or a 760E. I did get an older 3C575-TX to work on both machines, but only if I used the 1.1 3Com drivers, not the 2.0. Finally gave up and put Xircom cards in both machines. > What am I missing not using Cardwizard? Hotswapping the network card, maybe more. Without it, you have to shut down NT to insert or remove the network card. Myself, I'd hate to lose that capability. I hardly ever reboot NT, but I frequently remove the network card. The IBM-supplied CardWizard has always worked perfectly on my TP600 for that. -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 16 13:59:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA23894 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02501; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:57:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:53:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02200; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from docws007.shl.com (docws007.shl.com [159.249.56.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02187; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:52:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com (ottmsooc01.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.24]) by docws007.shl.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA82422 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:59:21 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BDF90B.F77490D0@ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:50:42 -0400 Message-ID: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: "'nick@bs28ha.demon.co.uk'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: ThinkPad Zip problem Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:52:51 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I'd suggest running MS Scandisk or Norton's disk fixer. They access the data at a more raw level to fix stuff Ciao, Tom From: Tom Trottier, SHL Performance Testing +1 613 787-4736, WEP 4-494 SHL Systemhouse ________ An MCI Company -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow [SMTP:penzance@icanect.net] Sent: Thursday, October 15, 1998 6:36 PM To: nick@bs28ha.demon.co.uk Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad Zip problem I have seen that problem beofre, but on HDD's when doing a lap link file transfer.. everything would come to a screeching halt when laplink got to a certain file.. never did learn what the problem was.. whatever it was it was associated with only one file that was misreporting its size.. nick@bs28ha.demon.co.uk wrote: > I'm having big problems with my Zip drive/disk. First, let me put you > in the picture: I have an IBM ThinkPad 760CD runing Windows 98 with a > zip drive especially made by VST Technologies to fit into the ultrabay > of the ThinkPad (swappable wit the CD-ROM drive). The VST zip drive > has been working wonderfully for the past 10 months (with 15 zip > disks) and is a lot faster than my old parallel port Zip drive and I > don't need to lug around a mains adapter. > > Last week, to my horror, whilst transferring some files from a zip > disk, the whole system crashed - no mouse movement, pressing > 'ctrl-alt-del' is unresponsive, the only alternative is to flick the > power switch. When this occurs, the drive's light comes on > intermittently together with a whirring sound (just like when the > drive is searching for data normally) for a few seconds, then quiet > for a few seconds. This is repeated over and over again. Meanwhile, I > cannot do anything with the machine unless I turn it off and reboot. > > Both Iomega's diagnostic and full scandisk showed no errors. This > problem is 100% reproducible every time a particular folder is > accessed - even just for viewing the contents of the folder. No other > folders on that zip disk or any other disks seem to be affected. On > deletion of the affected folder (and losing my data!), the problem is > cured. > ... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 16 18:33:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA28394 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15498; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:30:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:26:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15305; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm03sm.pmm.mci.net (pm03sm.pmm.mci.net [208.159.126.152]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15293; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tpad (usr37-dialup59.mix2.Boston.cw.net) by PM03SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27035) with SMTP id <0F0X00EO7YBI46@PM03SM.PMM.MCI.NET> for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:26:08 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:30:18 -0400 From: Mike Wenczel Subject: Re: 3Com Cardbus [770ED] To: Michael Geary Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <002201bdf954$8f71a240$3b4c37a6@tpad> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Priority: 3 List-Unsubscribe: >Is this with the 2.0 3Com drivers? What settings is the card using? Yes, the 2.0 drivers. IRQ 9, Memory range D000, I/O 3000. The 3Com support person at first thought there was updated Cardwizard software. I'll be looking for it. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Geary To: Mike Wenczel ; THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 12:35 PM Subject: RE: 3Com Cardbus [770ED] >> From: Mike Wenczel [mailto:m.wenczel@cwix.com] >> >> Well, I finally got around to installing NT4 and did manage to get the >> 3Com/Megahertz 3CCFE575BT 10/100 CardBus Ethernet adapter ($100 eval >> pricing) running. After speaking with 3Com support, I installed NT without >> SystemSoft Cardwizard. I also installed the latest (last week's) BIOS. >> Everything works fine. I must say that one reason (besides >> laziness) for not >> installing NT sooner was that, for me, Win95b was surprisingly stable on >> this machine (PII 266, 128mb). > >Is this with the 2.0 3Com drivers? What settings is the card using? > >I never got a 3CCFE575BT (where do they get these model numbers?!) to work >under NT on either a TP600 or a 760E. I did get an older 3C575-TX to work on >both machines, but only if I used the 1.1 3Com drivers, not the 2.0. Finally >gave up and put Xircom cards in both machines. > >> What am I missing not using Cardwizard? > >Hotswapping the network card, maybe more. Without it, you have to shut down >NT to insert or remove the network card. > >Myself, I'd hate to lose that capability. I hardly ever reboot NT, but I >frequently remove the network card. The IBM-supplied CardWizard has always >worked perfectly on my TP600 for that. > >-Mike > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 16 19:37:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA29629 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17331; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:36:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:31:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17154; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm04sm.pmm.mci.net (pm04sm.pmm.mci.net [208.159.126.153]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17142; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:31:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tpad (usr9-dialup8.mix2.Boston.cw.net) by PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27036) with SMTP id <0F0Y003DD1BIVW@PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET> for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:30:57 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:35:06 -0400 From: Mike Wenczel Subject: Re: 3Com Cardbus [770ED] To: Michael Geary Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <003301bdf95d$9cbf4f20$3b4c37a6@tpad> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Priority: 3 List-Unsubscribe: Make that Memory range D0000. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 16 21:54:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA01691 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20729; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:50:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20584; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:50:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marlin.nosc.mil (dseaman@marlin.nosc.mil [128.49.4.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20571; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:50:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (dseaman@localhost) by marlin.nosc.mil (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA15261 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:50:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Derek L. Seaman" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Realport hangs system In-Reply-To: <003301bdf95d$9cbf4f20$3b4c37a6@tpad> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I have a TP 600 and 770. On both machines if I use a Xircom Realport ethernet/modem card, windows 98 (on the 600) and 65 (on the 770) rarely shutdown. It just hangs with the please wait screen. I've been in contact with Xircom, gotten the newests drivers and flash BIOSes for the 600 and 770. Nothing has helped. If I remove the card before shutting down, all is well. Also, when I insert the card after win98 is up, the system hangs for about 15 seconds. Mouse freezes, etc. Is this normal? Anyone else have this problem? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 17 11:36:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA08843 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:35:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14440; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:35:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:34:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14343; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:34:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14331; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slip-32-100-190-101.il.us.ibm.net (slip-32-100-190-101.il.us.ibm.net [32.100.190.101]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA102286 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:34:24 GMT From: mocek@ibm.net (Stan Mocek) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ThinkPads in space! Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:35:44 -0500 Organization: IBM Global Networks Reply-To: mocek@ibm.net Message-ID: <3628b8cf.3941897@smtp1.ibm.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ran across this article on the use of the "latest" in technology by U.S. astronauts. Shows you there's always life left in that ThinkPad: http://www.gcn.com/gcn/1998/october12/41a.htm -- Stan Mocek mocek@ibm.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 17 11:40:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA08901 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12834; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:16:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:14:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12692; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12680; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:14:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thinkpad (1Cust13.tnt13.nyc3.da.uu.net [153.37.139.13]) by goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA21772 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 07:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001501bdf9d8$93b05160$0e2d0b80@thinkpad> From: "Arthur Woo" To: Subject: Thinkpad Replacement Batteries Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:15:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01BDF9B7.09CE7A60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BDF9B7.09CE7A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have a 2 year old Thinkpad 365X that now ultimately requires a new = battery. I've noticed that there are quite a few brands (other than = IBM) that sell replacements, and some are rated at higher (ie. = 3300-3500 MAh) power output than others. I was wondering if anyone had = any comments or experience with the different brands out there, such as = BTi and Xtend, etc. Thanks- Arthur ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BDF9B7.09CE7A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,
 
I have a 2 year old Thinkpad 365X = that now=20 ultimately requires a new battery.  I've noticed that there are = quite a few=20 brands (other than IBM) that sell replacements, and some are rated at=20 higher  (ie. 3300-3500 MAh) power output than others.  I was = wondering=20 if anyone had any comments or experience with the different brands out = there,=20 such as BTi and Xtend, etc.
 
Thanks-
Arthur
 
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BDF9B7.09CE7A60-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 17 12:20:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA09241 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:20:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15943; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:19:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:17:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15816; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:17:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.dandy.net (amadei@mail.dandy.net [206.135.129.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15785; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:17:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (amadei@localhost) by mail.dandy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA16463 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:20:34 -0400 Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:20:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Amadei To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad 360C Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: A _long_ while ago, I posted some questions about the 360C thinkpad I was given... and someone here mentioned having the hard drive cradle required for mounting the HD. Are the cradles still available? Next question: I am thinking of getting a 1.3 Gig Procom Technologies HD for the beast... is this drive going to be a big problem for the 360C... the model is a ATOM-1300TP or so, and Procom's website seems to indicate the 2.0 Gig model isn't a problem (ATOM-2000TP). I guess I am mostly concerned about the possible BIOS limits and hook up since I heard that IBM changed the pinouts over the years. Any thoughts? Anyone know a good, cheap source for a battery for this thing? ----Steve Stephen Amadei Director of MIS Dandy Connections, Inc. Atlantic City, NJ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 17 12:44:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA09468 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:44:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16660; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:41:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16523; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.interlog.com (root@smtp.interlog.com [207.34.202.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16509; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chamber.ca (209-20-9-12.dialin.interlog.com [209.20.9.12]) by smtp.interlog.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA01210 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:41:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3628C8D0.E2D8B31B@chamber.ca> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:41:52 -0400 From: Scott Campbell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Realport hangs system References: X-Corel-MessageType: EMail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a CreditCard Ethernet 10/100 + Modem 56 in my Thinkpad 380XD running Win95. My machine shuts down just fine (usually) but if I suspend, when I try to unsuspend, it hangs for about 30 seconds. After that it works fine. I recently upgraded the drivers and card to V.90 and it now hangs for only about 15 seconds, which is still annoying but I've just assumed that it is normal. I don't normally ever take the card out of the machine, but I did try it once and I got a similar 15 second hang when I put it back in. If I unsuspend without the card, there is no hang (but it does hang when I reinsert the card). Is this normal? Or is there something I can do to speed the unsuspend process? I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one. scott > I have a TP 600 and 770. On both machines if I use a Xircom Realport > ethernet/modem card, windows 98 (on the 600) and 65 (on the 770) > rarely shutdown. It just hangs with the please wait screen. I've > been in contact with Xircom, gotten the newests drivers and flash > BIOSes for the 600 and 770. Nothing has helped. > > If I remove the card before shutting down, all is well. Also, when I > insert the card after win98 is up, the system hangs for about 15 > seconds. > Mouse freezes, etc. Is this normal? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 17 13:03:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09630 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:03:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17366; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:59:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17163; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:59:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17151; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibm.net (slip129-37-21-203.ga.us.ibm.net [129.37.21.203]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA64754; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 16:59:28 GMT Message-ID: <3628CD6D.FEA18EBC@ibm.net> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:01:33 -0700 From: Joe Suttle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ihsbooks@aol.com, Think Pad List Subject: Re: CD for Thinkpad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Depends on the OS you are running. I originally bought a Mediavision Portable CD using what looked like a proprietary card, but turned out to be a BUSTOASTER by New Media. At the time, they supported OS/2 and had a new driver on their site. Got it up and running, but the 2x CD wasn't good enough for some installs,and getting it on the Warp install disks was a pain. Finally went out and bought a Panasonic 8X and with their directions (included), was able to install Warp 4 and other software. HOWEVER, the Panasonic PC SCSI card and it's drivers for OS/2 are NOT supported by Panasonic - duh! Their support of Wintel is much better, and the SCSI card is great, runs SCSI-II to my CD and a tape backup. If you are using OS/2, be aware that the Panasonic driver does not allow you to change irq, and that the pcmcia driver in the TP will assign the next available IRQ as the driver loads, which might make some other irq unavailable! When my scsi card is installed, I do not have IRQ 3 available, and lose my com2: on the replicator! Have tried with IBM to get a resolution, but they do not have an answer because the Panasonic install does not create a '.SCR' file which could be used by 'autoutl2.exe' to change the irq that will get assigned! I will check the 'redbooks' and use some diags I got from elsewhere to see if I can decode the Panasonic card and write a working '.scr' file. Will stay in touch. -- Joe Suttle * Warp Certified System Expert joesuttle@ibm.net Hercules, California +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Nurture your mind with great thoughts, for you will never go any higher than you think. - Benjamin Disraeli +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Powered by OS/2 Warp 4 fp7, Warp Server, SmartSuite and Netscape 4.04 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 17 17:40:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA11699 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:40:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23082; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:35:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22828; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:35:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp6.teleport.com (smtp6.teleport.com [192.108.254.45]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22812; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:35:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2265 invoked from network); 17 Oct 1998 21:35:21 -0000 Received: from usertest.teleport.com (HELO user2.teleport.com) (pccare@192.108.254.19) by smtp6.teleport.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 1998 21:35:21 -0000 Received: (from pccare@localhost) by user2.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA29215; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:35:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick West cc: Think Pad List In-Reply-To: <3628CD6D.FEA18EBC@ibm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I use a Micro Solution's Parallel Port drive with my thinkpad. They have OS/2, Win 3x, DOS, Linux,Win95, WinNT support. I have used it to install (on different HDs) Warp 3 Warp 4 PC DOS 7 Win 95 Win NT HREF="http://www.micro-solutions.com/"">Micro Solutions' Home Page Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 17 21:43:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA13836 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27652; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:39:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27524; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:39:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.az.com (lucy.az.com [204.201.18.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27510; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seawesta-79.az.com (seawesta-79.az.com [204.201.18.79]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA17928 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:39:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <199810180139.SAA17928@www.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Sat, 17 Oct 98 18:50:52 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thinkpad Replacement Batteries List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:15:17 -0400, Arthur Woo wrote: >I have a 2 year old Thinkpad 365X that now ultimately requires a new battery. I've noticed that there are quite a few brands (other than IBM) that sell replacements, and some are rated at higher (ie. 3300-3500 MAh) power output than others. I was wondering if anyone had any comments or experience with the different brands out there, such as BTi and Xtend, etc. I have two BTi brand (as well as an IBM and some other brand) batteries. No problem with one of them. The second one I had to send back because it wouldn't fit. It looked the same as the first. It was the same model and everything but it's was just a tad too tall. All except the IBM one has to be pressed down a bit. The IBM one just falls in and nothing else. ALmost as if the other 3 batteries are about a 1/16" off in construction size. My $0.02 Robert P.S. I have a 365XD. One step up. Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 18 03:00:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA16326 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 03:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06325; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 03:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 18 Oct 1998 02:57:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06186; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 02:57:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06174; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 02:57:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pkhoury@localhost) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA07448; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 23:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810180652.XAA07448@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 17 Oct 98 23:55:15 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP750: Online user's manual List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone have the .INF user's manual for the TP750, or know if I can get it from IBM? Thanks. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 18 14:15:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA20911 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:15:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06431; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:13:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:10:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06266; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:10:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06233; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:09:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-114-5.bellatlantic.net [151.198.114.5]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with ESMTP id OAA25825 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <362A2E58.B17CC120@bellatlantic.net> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:07:20 -0400 From: Mike Monteleone Reply-To: mmonte@bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Comm port with a red x in 560E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I'm trying to link my Psion 5 with my TP 560E with no luck. I notice that my communication port has a red x through it under device manager. Can someone tell me how to get this working. Thanks, Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 18 15:08:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA21313 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08001; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:07:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:05:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07897; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07884; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:05:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 156.chicago-11-12rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.152.156]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981018190452.OGIE27258@156.chicago-11-12rs.il.dial-access.att.net>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:04:52 +0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: mmonte@bellatlantic.net, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Comm port with a red x in 560E Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:04:42 GMT Message-ID: <362b3b4a.161167@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <362A2E58.B17CC120@bellatlantic.net> In-Reply-To: <362A2E58.B17CC120@bellatlantic.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:07:20 -0400, you wrote: |I'm trying to link my Psion 5 with my TP 560E with no luck. I notice |that my communication port has a red x through it under device manager. |Can someone tell me how to get this working. | The IBM 560 has an IRQ shortage - if you want to use the serial port, you have to disable the Infrared port using the Thinkpad Configuration Utility. Emanuel From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 18 15:51:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA21639 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:51:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09249; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:50:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:48:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09083; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:48:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (root@amber.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09071; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sinai.ccs.neu.edu (dnb@sinai.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.104]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA13203; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:42:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dnb@localhost) by sinai.ccs.neu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id PAA27918; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:42:30 -0400 (EDT) Sender: dnb@ccs.neu.edu To: Bill Morrow Cc: "David W. Taylor" , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 600E.... References: <016401bdf31b$4f2540f0$bb769cce@greasygirl.brightware.com> <361DBD43.60F5B9D9@icanect.net> From: dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) Date: 18 Oct 1998 15:42:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: Bill Morrow's message of "Fri, 09 Oct 1998 03:37:39 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.43/Emacs 19.34 List-Unsubscribe: Bill Morrow writes: > there never HAVE been NT4 DVD drivers.. Hmm, just got back from the Microsoft PDC where the Creative Labs folks selling their PC-DVD Encore Dxr2 asserted that they have had NT drivers up on their web site for 2 weeks. I haven't confirmed this, though. Peace, dNb From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 18 16:10:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA21778 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10066; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:09:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:06:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09912; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:06:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09899; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 156.chicago-11-12rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.152.156]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981018200557.YKE21879@156.chicago-11-12rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 20:05:57 +0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Comm port with a red x in 560E Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 20:05:47 GMT Message-ID: <362f49c1.3864172@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <362A2E58.B17CC120@bellatlantic.net> <362b3b4a.161167@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> In-Reply-To: <362b3b4a.161167@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:04:42 GMT, you wrote: |I'm trying to link my Psion 5 with my TP 560E with no luck. I notice ||that my communication port has a red x through it under device manager. ||Can someone tell me how to get this working. || | The IBM 560 has an IRQ shortage - if you want to use the serial |port, you have to disable the Infrared port using the Thinkpad |Configuration Utility. Oops, scratch that. I gave the pat answer without remembering that I got both working a while ago. Dumb, since I was discussing this with Dave Ross within the past few days! epbrown From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 18 16:25:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA21878 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:25:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10679; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:25:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:22:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10576; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10554; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pkhoury@localhost) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA26970; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 13:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810182017.NAA26970@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Stephen Amadei" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 18 Oct 98 00:43:49 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thinkpad 360C List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:20:34 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Amadei wrote: > >A _long_ while ago, I posted some questions about the 360C thinkpad I >was given... and someone here mentioned having the hard drive cradle >required for mounting the HD. Are the cradles still available? > >Next question: I am thinking of getting a 1.3 Gig Procom Technologies >HD for the beast... is this drive going to be a big problem for the >360C... the model is a ATOM-1300TP or so, and Procom's website seems to >indicate the 2.0 Gig model isn't a problem (ATOM-2000TP). > So long as you upgrade to the latest BIOS, it should work. I'm going to put a 2.1GB in my TP750. >I guess I am mostly concerned about the possible BIOS limits and hook up >since I heard that IBM changed the pinouts over the years. > Ahh, don't worry. The caddy hooks up to a standard IDE 2.5" drive. >Any thoughts? Anyone know a good, cheap source for a battery for this >thing? > I have an extra battery, but I'd only be willing to give it up for a trade for a TP750 battery. :) I unfortunately can't use a TP355/360 battery in a TP750. :( -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 18 23:07:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA26242 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:07:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21652; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:06:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:01:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21328; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21316; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pkhoury@localhost) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA12120; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810190256.TAA12120@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Peter Rudolph" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 18 Oct 98 20:00:05 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Can a TP screen get dim/darker over time...? List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:49:05 +0200 (CEST), Peter Rudolph wrote: >Hi everybody, > >I'm the proud owner of a TP701C (*the* ThinkPad ;-)) and I'm happy >with that machine for about three years now. > >But recently I have the impression hat the screen is not that bright >anymore as it was when I bought it. Could it be that the backlight is >getting dimmer over time? I also tried to clean the screen (just with >a wet cloth&detergent) but actually it seems to be very clean >already. > This could be possible. The backlight can also deteriorate with heat (as I unfortuantely have seen with my SPARCbook and it's almost dead backlight). Is it so dim that it's hardly readable, or just dim in general? >I noticed the effect mostly when I had a brandnew Toshiba 480CDT >sitting next to my aged TP on my desk (I had to do some work for the >company on the Toshiba) - the sun was shining and I couldn't read >anything anymore on my TP screen while the Toshiba screen was >perfectly readable. > I think that in this case, the Toshiba would be more recent than the TP701, so that might make a difference in the light quality. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 18 23:29:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA26457 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:29:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22578; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:28:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:26:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22433; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:26:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cutaway.com (www.cutaway.com [209.192.141.162]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22421; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:26:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cutaway.com (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cutaway.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA12076; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:27:54 -0400 Sender: root@cutaway.com Message-ID: <362AB1B9.B3D4AD0E@cutaway.com> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:27:53 -0400 From: Michael Rowan Reply-To: mtr@cutaway.com Organization: Castlerock Consulting Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Emanuel Brown CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Comm port with a red x in 560E References: <362A2E58.B17CC120@bellatlantic.net> <362b3b4a.161167@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> <362f49c1.3864172@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Emanuel Brown wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:04:42 GMT, you wrote: > > |I'm trying to link my Psion 5 with my TP 560E with no luck. I notice > ||that my communication port has a red x through it under device manager. > ||Can someone tell me how to get this working. > || > | The IBM 560 has an IRQ shortage - if you want to use the serial > |port, you have to disable the Infrared port using the Thinkpad > |Configuration Utility. > > Oops, scratch that. I gave the pat answer without remembering that > I got both working a while ago. Dumb, since I was discussing this with > Dave Ross within the past few days! > epbrown My 770 came with the serial port disabled in the configuration manager. It took a while since I was running in nt and didn't have (if its available) the TP config stuff loaded in NT. But it was the same thing, trying to sync up my palm and having no luck. I booted 95, banged up the config manager, and it had the serial port disabled (probably a power consumption thing). I turned it on and all was happy. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 01:06:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA27336 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25465; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:05:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:02:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25301; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:02:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25286; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA25557; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:02:10 -1000 Message-ID: <001101bdfb1d$a5bea500$ba1a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Emanuel Brown" , Subject: Re: Comm port with a red x in 560E Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:02:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: |I'm trying to link my Psion 5 with my TP 560E with no luck. I notice ||that my communication port has a red x through it under device manager. ||Can someone tell me how to get this working. As Emanuel Brown remembered, it *is* possible to run two serial devices (e.g., IR and modem) simultaneously on the 560. However, there are all kinds of hurdles first. You have to make sure that the appropriate ports are turned on (using Thinkpad Features). You need to make sure that 'reasonable', nonconflicting interrupts have been allocated by the W95 P&P. (One way to help this is to delete all the ports in the device manager, then reboot and hope that Windows allocates correctly when it reinstalls.) For IR you also need W95 IR support installed (this is rarely, if at all, a part of the W95 preinstall on Thinkpads). Finally, if you ever had TranXit installed on your system, make sure the silly Puma device drivers are removed from your system.ini file. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 02:27:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA28234 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:27:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27700; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:22:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27582; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27561; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:21:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-14.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.14]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id CAA10604 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:21:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981019022732.0146db64@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:27:32 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Audio w/ 770 internal modem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I did a clean install of Win95 (OSR2) on a TP770 (9549-1AU). The internal modem works flawlessly, but the problem is I am unable to hear the modem dial out. Unit is running all the newest drivers. Before I take the time to track down the settings, can someone post any hints/tips/series of steps to enable sound on this puppy, thanks. ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 03:38:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA28760 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00728; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:36:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:30:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00312; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:29:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (root@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.134.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00285; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:29:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gtwang@localhost (fake: stdin (HELO localhost) (ident: uid#20647@localhost)) by calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <366233-26068>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:29:24 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Sender: Gerald Wang From: Gerald Wang X-Sender: gtwang@calum To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP350c] Win95 anyone? In-Reply-To: <361DAF50.C33A6297@gallup.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Ray Bayles wrote: > Have you tried downloading the megaherze drivers > from the 3-com site...? and you might need to > use a utility to assure that your irq's and > ports are properly aligned... Yup, I've tried the drivers from 3-Com's site without luck. That IRQ/port utility is worth giving a try. I'll play around with it some more after things settle down around here. > I no longer have the computer, but I don't recall > any problems with the Megaherze modem I used... it > wasn't a CC10BT, but something with J's and 8's Hmm.. maybe yours was newer than mine. In any case, you given me some ideas on where to look. I'll let you all know if I discover anything. Thanks! Gerald From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 03:49:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA28829 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA01337; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:45:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA01213; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:45:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA01201; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:44:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA06363 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:46:29 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199810190646.JAA06363@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:44:45 -0100 (TUR) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP600/Win98 horrors List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Ok, it's not a real horror, but I am now unable to use the modem at all. I tried re-installing the 5-diskette modem applet too, as well as d/loading and installing the modem country file.. It still gives: The modem configuration for the selected country is not currently available on your system. Please request an update from your system manufacture [sic]. I live in Turkey, I had the modem set to Turkey, but I since tried many things, including United States.Still no go.. This is what they call "making it easier to use" ? I prefer the traditional way myself! - -turgut - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNismLTJjYwErN0xZAQE88AP/ZuJGcT2DfmJ4kDCLzLx3iglsSZBex+iC uCF56IYZMcaSXobDih3JD1AEc5bjO9ZZoDmO4nL5SI636NgQigpEDndo3SaHklBo xkMDEhnYSeIU4Vp8tFRtuAnhxBNM4fkbyNwAsy4+VMQdVYv2qW7hQnsjF9JNtQbF NJvfZbTdIH8= =gjJs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Windows Error 021: Windows loading, come back tomorrow. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 04:04:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA28931 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:04:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02045; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:02:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:00:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01830; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:00:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (root@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.134.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01814; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:00:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gtwang@localhost (fake: stdin (HELO localhost) (ident: uid#20647@localhost)) by calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <367311-26390>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:00:17 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Sender: Gerald Wang From: Gerald Wang X-Sender: gtwang@calum To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP350c] Win95 anyone? In-Reply-To: <361DBCAC.17CE2E0E@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Bill Morrow wrote: > Gerald.. > use laplink.. > an old DOS version with a parallel laplink type cable.. > no CD's that'll work with a 350, sorry.. Thanks for your suggestion, Bill. I'm going to get a Parallel cable and try using the drivers that are provided with Win95. What kind of transfer rates should I expect with this type of connection? Regards, Gerald From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 07:16:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA00121 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 07:16:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12724; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 07:14:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 07:12:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12536; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 07:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12496; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 07:12:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA06772; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:12:03 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199810191012.NAA06772@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "Mark Bell" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:10:18 -0100 (TUR) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19981019022732.0146db64@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Audio w/ 770 internal modem List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:27:32 -0400, Mark Bell wrote: >I did a clean install of Win95 (OSR2) on a TP770 (9549-1AU). >The internal modem works flawlessly, but the problem is I am >unable to hear the modem dial out. Unit is running all the Check the SOUND settings of the modem -- in Control Panel.. - -turgut - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNitWWjJjYwErN0xZAQGoTgP/SVzxBv/ymFNXJRmsu3F7x7AA1iN+l9dW F4B2ZQGjuPOKQQddxTkuuQhv25Ps8NORhUNap187kYY8q/SVW1TgY8T65fWH23oF fzaIyJbSKHaff+jTNLcmqDFs6w2Ems4hhpRJx+C125TurylhwiNVPic/jgVuJ2mm JQ+sKrwLQPw= =CsMq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Windows Error 017: Keyboard locked. Try anything you can think of. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 09:36:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA01326 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:36:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17970; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:35:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:29:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17468; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:29:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17424; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:29:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from AlanCDane@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 4BJZa02343; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:25:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <62b75230.362b3db5@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:25:09 EDT To: bytehead@bellatlantic.net, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: what docking system works with the TP 760ED? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 List-Unsubscribe: I have a 3550 unit that I thought would work, but it turns out it must be designed for a 700 series, but NOT the 760ED.....if anyone has suggestions on either adapting this one to work or where I can purchase the right dock.....I'll be selling this one (BRAND NEW IN A BOX) if I can't find a way to adapt. thanks for any help provided. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 13:02:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA03975 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02148; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:54:08 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01915; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:54:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.1) id MAA08238 for dist-thinkpad; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.58.53]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01140; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:45:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from desktop (RCMDB102-38.splitrock.net [209.156.35.38]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA47344; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:40:01 -0400 Message-ID: <011c01bdfb7f$486c08e0$26239cd1@desktop> From: "Presley M. Rixey" To: "Emanuel Brown" , , Subject: Re: Comm port with a red x in 560E Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:41:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: I'm not sure this is true. I have an external modem connected (serial connection) to my 560e with no problems, without disabling the IR port. Try going into ThinkPad Features (whatever the ThinkPad icon is) and make sure that both the serial and parallel ports are enabled. On my 560e, as delivered, the parallel port was not enabled - I needed it for Direct Cable Connection. Just go through all of the features and make sure everything is enabled. -----Original Message----- From: Emanuel Brown To: mmonte@bellatlantic.net ; THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Sunday, October 18, 1998 3:04 PM Subject: Re: Comm port with a red x in 560E On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:07:20 -0400, you wrote: |I'm trying to link my Psion 5 with my TP 560E with no luck. I notice |that my communication port has a red x through it under device manager. |Can someone tell me how to get this working. | The IBM 560 has an IRQ shortage - if you want to use the serial port, you have to disable the Infrared port using the Thinkpad Configuration Utility. Emanuel From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 13:10:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA04093 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:10:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03062; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:08:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:05:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02826; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02791; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA13479; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:05:02 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:05:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Peter Rudolph cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Can a TP screen get dim/darker over time...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Peter Rudolph wrote: > > I'm the proud owner of a TP701C (*the* ThinkPad ;-)) and I'm happy > with that machine for about three years now. > > But recently I have the impression hat the screen is not that bright > anymore as it was when I bought it. Could it be that the backlight is > getting dimmer over time? I also tried to clean the screen (just with > a wet cloth&detergent) but actually it seems to be very clean > already. > > I noticed the effect mostly when I had a brandnew Toshiba 480CDT > sitting next to my aged TP on my desk (I had to do some work for the > company on the Toshiba) - the sun was shining and I couldn't read > anything anymore on my TP screen while the Toshiba screen was > perfectly readable. The TP701 had/has one of the dimmest TFTs on the market. When I saw the 701 next to a dual-scan 760 at the store, they were comparable in brightness. Comparing with a 760c was like, well, comparing a dual scan to a TFT. :-) When I upgraded to my 560E, I was amazed at the improved brightness, and then I read here that the 560E is actually considered to have a dim TFT as well! So it may not be so much that your 701 is getting dimmer, as it is newer TFTs are getting brighter. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 13:44:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA04611 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:44:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05643; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:43:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:40:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05471; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:40:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05450; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:40:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com (ottmsooc01.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.24]) by docws001.shl.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA39180 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:22:25 -0500 Received: by ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BDFB65.B744CCD0@ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:38:12 -0400 Message-ID: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: "'Darren J. Paul'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Still having problems with phantom FDD Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:40:19 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: You might also check your PATH? Perhaps an old entry? Ciao,Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect Ottawa Global Delivery Centre, SHL Systemhouse an MCI Company :^(+1 613 236-6604x5539 fax:232-5182:^( :^} ttrottier@shl.com http://www.shl.com :^} *:)50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada*:) ~Questions answered, answers questioned~ ---------- From: Rob Bell [SMTP:rbell1@csc.com] Sent: 1998 October 13 - Tuesday 10:58 To: Darren J. Paul Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Still having problems with phantom FDD ... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 15:04:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA05850 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:04:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09961; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:00:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:56:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09629; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:56:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcom19.netcom.com (phr@netcom19.netcom.com [192.100.81.132]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09593; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:55:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom19.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id LAA12292 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:55:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199810191855.LAA12292@netcom19.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: windoze re-install messes up video config! List-Unsubscribe: I tried plugging a Hitachi (Microtech) flash card into my 770 and the 770 thought it didn't have the right drivers, and sent me into an installation wizard, which then somehow messed up the PCMCIA configuration so I couldn't use any pcmcia cards including my modem. I called tech support and after trying a bunch of things they had me run Windows Setup again, which re-installed Windows from the online .cab files. This didn't go too smoothly; a few files were missing (none seemed important) and now when I boot it says something about a non-functioning file in SYSTEM.INI then says something about windows\system\vmm32\ntkern.vxd (which does exist). It says hit any key to continue, and I do; and it comes up normally. But it has put my screen in 256-color mode and the menu in Control Panel no longer lets me choose 65536 colors, even at 800x600! Any idea what has happened and how I can fix it? It may be time for the recovery cd.... :( From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 15:55:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA06743 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:55:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13025; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:52:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:49:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12816; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:49:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.algonet.se (angel.algonet.se [194.213.74.112]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12803; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23688 invoked from network); 19 Oct 1998 19:24:04 -0000 Received: from sdu20-76.ppp.algonet.se (HELO algonet.algonet.se) (195.163.76.20) by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 19 Oct 1998 19:24:04 -0000 Message-ID: <362B7DBF.36E4A4B6@dankadata.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:58:23 +0100 From: Bjorn Isheden Organization: DDD X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: 486SL package ? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: According to IBM is my TP750 equipped with a 486SL CPU. Can someone tell me if the package of this CPU is the standard 486-PGA ? Thanks, /Bjorn From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 16:07:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA06907 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13957; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:04:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:01:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13715; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:01:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13687; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:01:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pkhoury@localhost) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA09186; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810191959.MAA09186@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Bjorn Isheden" Date: Mon, 19 Oct 98 13:00:40 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 486SL package ? List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:58:23 +0100, Bjorn Isheden wrote: >According to IBM is my TP750 equipped with a 486SL CPU. >Can someone tell me if the package of this CPU is the standard 486-PGA ? > No, it would be a surface mount. I don't think any SL CPUs would have been ceramic (as PGA CPUs are). The best thing to do to make it faster is add more RAM. I just put in 16MB today, and my 750 goes much faster! -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 16:12:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA06971 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14037; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:05:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:03:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13837; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:03:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13799; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pkhoury@localhost) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA09292; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810192000.NAA09292@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "AlanCDane@aol.com" , "bytehead@bellatlantic.net" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 19 Oct 98 13:02:06 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: what docking system works with the TP 760ED? List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:25:09 EDT, AlanCDane@aol.com wrote: >I have a 3550 unit that I thought would work, but it turns out it must be >designed for a 700 series, but NOT the 760ED.....if anyone has suggestions on >either adapting this one to work or where I can purchase the right >dock.....I'll be selling this one (BRAND NEW IN A BOX) if I can't find a way >to adapt. The TP760 needs either a Dock I (3545), a Dock II (3546), or possibly a Selectadock. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 16:17:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA07042 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15069; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:13:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14876; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA (reg.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14863; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:12:45 PST From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: , "Bjorn Isheden" Subject: Re: 486SL package ? Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:22:15 -0700 Message-ID: <01bdfb9e$29679260$03785a8e@pmachule> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: Not even close....;-{ It's not a standard 486 pinout and it's also not a PGA. One of the upgraders was/is working one a AMD 486-133 upgrade path. This would be an amazing piece of work . And NO longer cost justafiable at this point. .peter -----Original Message----- From: Bjorn Isheden To: ThinkPad List Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 1:50 PM Subject: 486SL package ? >According to IBM is my TP750 equipped with a 486SL CPU. >Can someone tell me if the package of this CPU is the standard 486-PGA ? > >Thanks, >/Bjorn > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 16:41:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA07396 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:41:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16464; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:39:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:38:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16320; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:38:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send102.yahoomail.com (send102.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16308; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19981019203855.7639.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> Received: from [208.239.204.208] by send102.yahoomail.com; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:38:55 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:38:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Mitchell Yee Subject: Re: 486SL package ? To: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Bjorn Isheden MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: The differences between the SL vs. DX 486 chip: 1. SL has a bigger internal cache 16K vs. 8K for the DX 2. Although the math co-processor is still on the basic 486 die, it's disabled for the SL. 3. My evil memory keeps telling me that the voltage is slightly less for the SL vs. the DX. I'm really not sure anymore. 4. Because the math co-processor is disabled, the pin-outs are different, hence the non-PGA form for the SL variant (I think it's a one pin difference). Remember, that IBM came up with the SL variant of the 486 as a way to bring out a cheaper 486, back in the days when 486 processors went for up to $400 each. It sort of made sense back then. Sort of. Mitchell ---peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP wrote: > > Not even close....;-{ > It's not a standard 486 pinout and it's also not a PGA. > One of the upgraders was/is working one a AMD 486-133 upgrade path. > This would be an amazing piece of work . > And NO longer cost justafiable at this point. > > .peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bjorn Isheden > To: ThinkPad List > Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 1:50 PM > Subject: 486SL package ? > > > >According to IBM is my TP750 equipped with a 486SL CPU. > >Can someone tell me if the package of this CPU is the standard 486-PGA ? > > > >Thanks, > >/Bjorn > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 16:55:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA07581 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17481; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:54:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:53:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17360; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:53:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coral.binevolve.com (www.binevolve.com [209.68.192.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17309; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:51:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from binevolve.com (dt0c1nb6.san.rr.com [204.210.53.182]) by coral.binevolve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10660 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:51:08 -0700 Sender: tdarugar@coral.binevolve.com Message-ID: <362BA691.F1E82F8D@binevolve.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:52:33 +0000 From: Parand Tony Darugar X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.34 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 560, burned out motherboard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, (I hope this is the right list for 560's). I have a Thinkpad 560 (type 2640), which just burned out its second motherboard. IBM wants $700 or $800 to replace it, which is far more than I'd like to spend. Does anyone know of a good place to get this repaird? I'm pretty sure I can replace the motherboard myself if I can get my hands on a new one. Currently it's a pentium 133. Best, Tony Darugar From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 17:06:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA07688 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:06:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18304; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:03:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:01:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18023; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:01:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18011; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:01:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA15440; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:01:07 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:01:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Mitchell Yee cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 486SL package ? In-Reply-To: <19981019203855.7639.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Mitchell Yee wrote: > The differences between the SL vs. DX 486 chip: > > 1. SL has a bigger internal cache 16K vs. 8K > for the DX > > 2. Although the math co-processor is still on > the basic 486 die, it's disabled for the SL. > > 3. My evil memory keeps telling me that the > voltage is slightly less for the SL vs. > the DX. I'm really not sure anymore. > > 4. Because the math co-processor is disabled, > the pin-outs are different, hence the non-PGA > form for the SL variant (I think it's a one > pin difference). > > Remember, that IBM came up with the SL variant > of the 486 as a way to bring out a cheaper 486, > back in the days when 486 processors went > for up to $400 each. It sort of made sense > back then. Sort of. You're confusing the SL with the SX. The SL most definitely has a math coprocessor on it (the 386SL did not). The SL was the laptop version of Intel's x86 line. It incorporated several motherboard-related functions onto the chip, as well as power-saving features (low voltage, variable internal clock speed, etc). Eventually, Intel just incorporated the power saving features into their standard processors (calling them "SL-enhanced"), and killed off the SL line. The pin-out is very different from any standard 486, SX or DX. I'd frankly be amazed if someone managed to upgrade one since, like I said, the CPU handles several functions normally handled by the motherboard. (grr, can't remember what they are...) -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 18:33:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA09023 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22936; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:31:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:29:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22775; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dewdrop2.mindspring.com (dewdrop2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.82]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22763; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:28:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hkyxztrz (user-38ld4av.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.145.95]) by dewdrop2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA03971 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981019152827.00803dd0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: lou1358@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:28:27 -0700 To: "ThinkPad List" From: Lou Subject: Battery charge Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: When I got the TP 380ED the battery lasted about 2 1/2 hours. Now it seems to die after only about 1:45 or so. Any special way to discharge fully and then get a full charge? Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 19:19:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA09678 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:19:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24937; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:18:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:16:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24805; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:16:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24784; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:16:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pkhoury@localhost) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA20850; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810192313.QAA20850@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "John H. Kim" , "Mitchell Yee" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 19 Oct 98 16:14:53 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 486SL package ? List-Unsubscribe: >The pin-out is very different from any standard 486, SX or DX. >I'd frankly be amazed if someone managed to upgrade one since, >like I said, the CPU handles several functions normally >handled by the motherboard. (grr, can't remember what they >are...) Probably DMA, interupt controller, keyboard controller, and a few other things. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 19:48:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA10006 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:48:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26324; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:47:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:44:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26032; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:44:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26020; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:44:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA01521; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:44:15 -1000 Message-ID: <000d01bdfbba$67573820$841a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Parand Tony Darugar" , Subject: Re: TP 560, burned out motherboard Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:44:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: > (I hope this is the right list for 560's). Yes. > I have a Thinkpad 560 (type 2640), which just burned out its >second motherboard. Can you elaborate for the rest of us 560 owners? Do you really mean burned out (e.g., from badly regulated power), or do you mean something like a blown solder connection (which can be a consequence of too much case flex - happened to me, not too surprising in a thin machine). >IBM wants $700 or $800 to replace it, >which is far more than I'd like to spend. Besides the 'authorized' supplier in Boulder (who I think will be happy to ship you a motherboard for self-installation), there are lots of parts suppliers for Thinkpads on the web, but I don't know how many have motherboards. Try http://www.ambry.com/html/ibm_pricing.html and http://www.usapc.com/ and http://www.bluestarusa.com/inventory.htm for a start. Sometimes a web search on a part number works, too. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 19:49:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA10033 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:49:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26629; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:48:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:45:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26109; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.algonet.se (tomei.algonet.se [194.213.74.114]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26097; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:45:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22289 invoked from network); 19 Oct 1998 23:07:48 +0200 Received: from sdu197-73.ppp.algonet.se (HELO algonet.algonet.se) (195.163.73.197) by tomei.algonet.se with SMTP; 19 Oct 1998 23:07:48 +0200 Message-ID: <362B9957.6BBF9C3E@dankadata.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:56:07 +0100 From: Bjorn Isheden Organization: DDD X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: RE: 486SL package X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199810191959.MAA09186@ritchie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: >According to IBM is my TP750 equipped with a 486SL CPU. >Can someone tell me if the package of this CPU is the standard 486-PGA ? The reason why I asked this question is because I got this mail: >>We can now upgrade your computer from the Intel 486SL to an AMD 5x86/133. >>Special modifications on the motherboard allow us to upgrade it. The price >>is $598. World Wide Web: http://www.upgradesinc.com Internet E-Mail: ajett@upgradesinc.com I have read about other companies that also claim to be able to do it... Anyone know how they do it ? thanks, /Bjorn From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 20:05:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA10274 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:05:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27647; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:04:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:01:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27477; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:01:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coral.binevolve.com (www.binevolve.com [209.68.192.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27449; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:01:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from binevolve.com (dt0c1nb6.san.rr.com [204.210.53.182]) by coral.binevolve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11667; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:00:51 -0700 Sender: tdarugar@coral.binevolve.com Message-ID: <362BD303.71D4FA10@binevolve.com> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:02:11 +0000 From: Parand Tony Darugar X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.34 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Ross CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 560, burned out motherboard References: <000d01bdfbba$67573820$841a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Dear David, > > (I hope this is the right list for 560's). > Yes. This list is great! I've gotten more info in one day than I'd been able to find in a week. > > I have a Thinkpad 560 (type 2640), which just burned out its > >second motherboard. > > Can you elaborate for the rest of us 560 owners? Do you really > mean burned out (e.g., from badly regulated power), or do you mean > something like a blown solder connection (which can be a consequence of > too much case flex - happened to me, not too surprising in a thin machine). According to IBM EZserv, 'the motherboard is bured out'. I thought it was something trivial, but EZserv's pronouncement disuaded me. Here's what happened: one day my computer stopped working if it wasn't plugged into the outlet. I checked the battery and it was fine. In the next month or so it'd work fine if plugged into the outlet, but would have blinking sessions where the screen would get brighter and dimmer as if the AC adapter was being plugged in and unplugged. Then one day it died as I was typing. The next day it came back to life. 2 days later it died again, this time more permanently. I opened her up and messed with it. As it turns out if I push down on the top of the thinkpad (eg. where the '560' sticker is at the top of the keyboard) with a fair bit of force it comes back to life. I'd be very interested in hearing about the blown solder connection. That might be what's happening here. Thanks for the pointers on the resellers and repair centers. Any info on how I might diagnose the blown solder connection, etc, would be appreciated. I have to think it's something as simple as that, since everything basically works if I push down on the casing. Best, Tony From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 20:28:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA10654 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:28:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28931; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:27:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:24:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28734; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28718; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:23:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA01679; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:23:33 -1000 Message-ID: <004701bdfbbf$e781a300$841a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Parand Tony Darugar" Cc: Subject: Re: TP 560, burned out motherboard Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:23:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >In the next month or so it'd work fine if plugged into the >outlet, but would have blinking sessions where the screen would get >brighter and dimmer as if the AC adapter was being plugged in >and unplugged. > Then one day it died as I was typing. The next day it came back >to life. 2 days later it died again, this time more permanently. > I opened her up and messed with it. As it turns out if I push down >on the top of the thinkpad (eg. where the '560' sticker is at the top >of the keyboard) with a fair bit of force it comes back to life. Exactly the symptoms I had, except on mine I had to push on the bottom edge to make it work. (Before I sent my machine in, I managed a tape backup by forcing the machine into a flexed position with a bungy cord, thereby keeping it on until the backup was complete.) These machines do flex a lot, and if you use them on something other than a flat surface - like resting on a small book, or the edge of a table - then press on the palm rest, I think this strains some of the circuitry. The tech might well diagnose any motherboardboard that doesn't turn on as 'blown', whatever the actual reason. I had to press the tech I spoke with about my machine to get him to affirm that normal flexure could cause a solder joint or other connection to fail. Unfortunately, I expect that even if this *is* all that's wrong, you'll still have to replace the whole board - it is fairly hard to find or repair a bad solder joint on modern PCBs of the complexity of these motherboards. (Now I'm going to get a lot of sneer mail from the E.E.s on the list telling me how easy this is, and calling me a techno-wuss:-) - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 20:44:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA10951 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:44:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29990; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:42:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:40:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29817; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coral.binevolve.com (www.binevolve.com [209.68.192.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29797; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from binevolve.com (dt0c1nb6.san.rr.com [204.210.53.182]) by coral.binevolve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11850; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:39:03 -0700 Sender: tdarugar@coral.binevolve.com Message-ID: <362BDBFA.FF29C792@binevolve.com> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:40:26 +0000 From: Parand Tony Darugar X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.34 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Ross CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 560, burned out motherboard References: <004701bdfbbf$e781a300$841a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Dear David, > Exactly the symptoms I had, except on mine I had to push on the bottom > edge to make it work. Mine also works if I put on the bottom edge. > Unfortunately, I expect that even if this *is* all that's wrong, you'll still have to > replace the whole board - it is fairly hard to find or repair a bad solder joint > on modern PCBs of the complexity of these motherboards. (Now I'm > going to get a lot of sneer mail from the E.E.s on the list telling me how > easy this is, and calling me a techno-wuss:-) Hmm. I took a couple of EE classes. You fixed the problem by getting the motherboard replaced? I'm willing to waste some time playing with it. Any EE's have any advice? I'm about to bust it open and go for it. Wish me luck. Best, Tony From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 21:12:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA11331 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:12:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01201; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:08:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01053; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:08:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cutaway.com (www.cutaway.com [209.192.141.162]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01041; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cutaway.com (mtr@laptop.cutaway.com [209.192.141.165]) by cutaway.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA01168; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:09:36 -0400 Sender: mtr@cutaway.com Message-ID: <362BE2A4.85B6FA06@cutaway.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:08:52 -0400 From: Michael T Rowan Organization: Castlerock Consulting X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Ross CC: Parand Tony Darugar , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 560, burned out motherboard References: <004701bdfbbf$e781a300$841a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > Unfortunately, I expect that even if this *is* all that's wrong, you'll still have to > replace the whole board - it is fairly hard to find or repair a bad solder joint > on modern PCBs of the complexity of these motherboards. (Now I'm > going to get a lot of sneer mail from the E.E.s on the list telling me how > easy this is, and calling me a techno-wuss:-) This is because none of the EE have jobs, so they have lots of time on their hands Not like us programmers... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 21:37:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA11737 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:37:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02322; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:29:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02069; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA (reg.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02046; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:29:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:28:20 PST From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: "Bjorn Isheden" CC: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: 486SL package Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:37:50 -0700 Message-ID: <01bdfbca$3fc850e0$03785a8e@pmachule> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is the company that invested in the ASIC(s) that does the interfacing between the AMD 486-133 and the Motherboard that expects a 486SL . It is the only company AFAIK that can do this. The engineering is very impressive. The results are NOT. Performance is sub P-75 performance. The Price is a joke! In fact it's insane . (grin) It simply makes no sense when refurbished Thinkpads with a real Pentium inside and a warranty are going for $600US ish..... ..peter.. -----Original Message----- From: Bjorn Isheden To: Paul Khoury Cc: ThinkPad List Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 5:50 PM Subject: RE: 486SL package >>According to IBM is my TP750 equipped with a 486SL CPU. >>Can someone tell me if the package of this CPU is the standard 486-PGA >? > >The reason why I asked this question is because I got this mail: >>>We can now upgrade your computer from the Intel 486SL to an AMD >5x86/133. >>>Special modifications on the motherboard allow us to upgrade it. The >price >>>is $598. >World Wide Web: http://www.upgradesinc.com >Internet E-Mail: ajett@upgradesinc.com > >I have read about other companies that also claim to be able to do it... > >Anyone know how they do it ? > >thanks, >/Bjorn > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 22:59:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA12725 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:59:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05281; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:56:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:53:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05088; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:53:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04997; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:51:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-10.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.10]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id VAA26721; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:13:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981019211925.0069f384@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:19:25 -0400 To: Mitchell Yee , peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Bjorn Isheden From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: 486SL package ? In-Reply-To: <19981019203855.7639.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 01:38 PM 10/19/98 -0700, Mitchell Yee wrote: >The differences between the SL vs. DX 486 chip: > >1. SL has a bigger internal cache 16K vs. 8K > for the DX > >2. Although the math co-processor is still on > the basic 486 die, it's disabled for the SL. > >3. My evil memory keeps telling me that the > voltage is slightly less for the SL vs. > the DX. I'm really not sure anymore. > >4. Because the math co-processor is disabled, > the pin-outs are different, hence the non-PGA > form for the SL variant (I think it's a one > pin difference). > >Remember, that IBM came up with the SL variant >of the 486 as a way to bring out a cheaper 486, >back in the days when 486 processors went >for up to $400 each. It sort of made sense >back then. Sort of. Are you confusing the 486SL for the 486SLC? The 486SLC is an IBM/Cyrix SX hybrid chip (16/32) popular in IBMs MCA machines (700/720 Portables, various PS/2 machines), whilst the 486SL is the power saving version of the 486 by Intel (What we would refer to as the mobile version ). ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 19 23:35:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA13162 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:35:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06110; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:11:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:08:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05920; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:08:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05907; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lou (user-38ld53k.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.148.116]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA23797 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19981019195839.00a8ec20@mindspring.com> X-Sender: lou1358@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:00:48 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Lou Subject: Generic IR Serial port keeps wanting to install Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have deleted the generic IR serial port from my ThinkPad 380ED. It keeps wanting to reinstall. I don't use it and need the serial port for my GPS input. How can I stop getting the install request? Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 00:05:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA13573 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07922; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:04:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:01:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07784; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:01:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07769; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pkhoury@localhost) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA07439; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810200359.UAA07439@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bjorn Isheden" , "Mark Bell" , "Mitchell Yee" , "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 19 Oct 98 21:00:41 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 486SL package ? List-Unsubscribe: >Are you confusing the 486SL for the 486SLC? The 486SLC is >an IBM/Cyrix SX hybrid chip (16/32) popular in IBMs MCA >machines (700/720 Portables, various PS/2 machines), whilst >the 486SL is the power saving version of the 486 by Intel >(What we would refer to as the mobile version ). > Actually, I might be able to believe that the 486SL has 16K of cache, and I'm POSITIVE that it has an FPU because I tested and benchmarked it today. The 386SL was like a 386DX, but low power. Both required an add-on FPU. So I take it that the 486SL is like the 486DX, but also low power. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 00:19:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA13799 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:19:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08598; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:19:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:17:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08437; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:17:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08423; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:16:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from theriver.com (a19.pm3-28.theriver.com [206.102.195.35]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11778; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:14:26 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <362C0DDB.CF03FA64@theriver.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:13:15 -0700 From: James Mckenzie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Bell CC: Mitchell Yee , peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Bjorn Isheden Subject: Re: 486SL package ? References: <3.0.1.32.19981019211925.0069f384@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The 486SLC was also used in the 750 series laptops. James Mark Bell wrote: > > At 01:38 PM 10/19/98 -0700, Mitchell Yee wrote: > >The differences between the SL vs. DX 486 chip: > > > >1. SL has a bigger internal cache 16K vs. 8K > > for the DX > > > >2. Although the math co-processor is still on > > the basic 486 die, it's disabled for the SL. > > > >3. My evil memory keeps telling me that the > > voltage is slightly less for the SL vs. > > the DX. I'm really not sure anymore. > > > >4. Because the math co-processor is disabled, > > the pin-outs are different, hence the non-PGA > > form for the SL variant (I think it's a one > > pin difference). > > > >Remember, that IBM came up with the SL variant > >of the 486 as a way to bring out a cheaper 486, > >back in the days when 486 processors went > >for up to $400 each. It sort of made sense > >back then. Sort of. > > Are you confusing the 486SL for the 486SLC? The 486SLC is > an IBM/Cyrix SX hybrid chip (16/32) popular in IBMs MCA > machines (700/720 Portables, various PS/2 machines), whilst > the 486SL is the power saving version of the 486 by Intel > (What we would refer to as the mobile version ). > > ------------------------------------------------- > Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting > 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 > Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net > ------------------------------------------------- > Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic > RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. > Network and System consultation and installation > -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 00:21:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA13831 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:21:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08784; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:20:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:18:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08508; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:18:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08494; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:17:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from theriver.com (a19.pm3-28.theriver.com [206.102.195.35]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA12636; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:17:50 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <362C0EA7.12464333@theriver.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:16:39 -0700 From: James Mckenzie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lou CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Generic IR Serial port keeps wanting to install References: <4.1.19981019195839.00a8ec20@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Disable it with the Thinkpad Configuration Utility. Then remove it and reboot. The Generic IR serial port should not install. James Lou wrote: > > I have deleted the generic IR serial port from my ThinkPad 380ED. It keeps > wanting to reinstall. I don't use it and need the serial port for my GPS > input. How can I stop getting the install request? > > Warm regards, > > -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 00:52:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA14168 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:52:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09817; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:52:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:50:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09695; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:50:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09683; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:50:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 862566A3.001AC859 ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:52:32 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: Lou cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <862566A3.001A7487.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:51:45 -0500 Subject: Re: Generic IR Serial port keeps wanting to install Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Even if you disable it, plug-n-play still seems to find and wanna install drivers for it. Just let it do so, but then disable the device in the control panel, device's properties, general tab. (Disable in this hardware profile). rich Lou on 10/19/98 10:00:48 PM To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu cc: (bcc: Rich Chong/SHARE Inc) Subject: Generic IR Serial port keeps wanting to install I have deleted the generic IR serial port from my ThinkPad 380ED. It keeps wanting to reinstall. I don't use it and need the serial port for my GPS input. How can I stop getting the install request? Warm regards, -lou- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 01:09:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA14364 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 01:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10826; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 01:08:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 01:06:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10640; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 01:06:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10624; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 01:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.2-27 #9830) id <01J363IO8ZXC9DBNW4@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:06:10 MST Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:03:06 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: TP 560, burned out motherboard In-reply-to: "Message dated Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:02:11 +0000" <362BD303.71D4FA10@binevolve.com> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <01J3659NOROQ9DBNW4@Opus1.COM> References: <000d01bdfbba$67573820$841a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> List-Unsubscribe: Parand Tony Darugar wrote: > I opened her up and messed with it. As it turns out if I push down > on the top of the thinkpad (eg. where the '560' sticker is at the top > of the keyboard) with a fair bit of force it comes back to life. > I'd be very interested in hearing about the blown solder connection. > That might be what's happening here. This could be repaired by someone with suitable (small) soldering tools. Just go through all the connections... This might also be a connector problem - sometimes a product named Cramolin (conductivity enhancer) helps and is cheaper and easier than replacing connectors. Available at most electronics parts stores. I ran in to something similar with my 755 except the DC to DC converter is conking out. So instead of paying IBM to fix it I just got another whole 755 from Electro Rents for $495. This way I also got a battery, a hard disk with W95 installed on it, a screen with only one half bad pixel, etc, etc, for slightly less money than just letting IBM fix the first one (and having nothing more than what I started with when they are done). ER even threw in a fairly decent carrying case plus their service was good - I called them Thursday and it was here Friday... Billy Y.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 03:01:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA15279 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 03:01:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA13071; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 03:01:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 03:00:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12920; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 03:00:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12889; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 02:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pkhoury@localhost) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA17149; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810200655.XAA17149@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "James Mckenzie" , "Mark Bell" Cc: "Bjorn Isheden" , "Mitchell Yee" , "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 19 Oct 98 23:57:00 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 486SL package ? List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:13:15 -0700, James Mckenzie wrote: >The 486SLC was also used in the 750 series laptops. No, this is incorrect. The 486SLC is a 486 wannabe. It does in fact have the 486SL-33. The 750CE might be different, however. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 10:42:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA18992 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:42:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04319; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:41:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:33:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03846; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03831; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:33:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id EAA08314; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:33:33 -1000 Message-ID: <001a01bdfc36$a2b757c0$8a1a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Parand Tony Darugar" Cc: Subject: Re: TP 560, burned out motherboard Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:33:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: > Hmm. I took a couple of EE classes. You fixed the problem by getting >the motherboard replaced? I'm willing to waste some time playing >with it. Any EE's have any advice? Yes, a new MB fixed it - I should add that my machine was still under warrantee, I didn't do it myself! - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 10:57:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA19226 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:57:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05252; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:52:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05015; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:52:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.asb.com (unix.asb.com [165.254.128.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04997; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:52:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JOE770 ([208.201.75.45]) by unix.asb.com (8.9.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA28411 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:07:29 -0400 (EDT) From: christij@unix.asb.com (Joseph Christie) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: thinkpad icons Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:42:30 GMT Reply-To: christij@unix.asb.com Message-ID: <362ea0ce.10049505@unix.asb.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I used to have a set of icons for thinkpads to replace desktop default icons. Machine died ... they're gone ... anyone know where I might find them again? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 423B78C80FEA5495 CF64AD5F214797DE http://www.asb.com/usr/christij 95E3789C5679C4D7 03210B57E76FE66 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 13:00:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA21060 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:00:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11942; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:58:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:56:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11772; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:56:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.hd.ibm.de (firewall.hd.ibm.de [192.101.197.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11756; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:56:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com by firewall.hd.ibm.de (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03/TWS 4.03.3-cherub) id AA26376; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:55:13 +0200 Received: from pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com (pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com [9.228.3.110]) by mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.4-mailserver) with ESMTP id SAA48366 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:55:56 +0200 (MSZ) Received: (from krumeich@localhost) by pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.2-pool) id SAA66234; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:55:55 +0200 (MSZ) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:55:54 +0200 (MSZ) From: Alexander Krumeich Reply-To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Can a TP screen get dim/darker over time...? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I think it was John Kim who wrote: >So it may not be so much that your 701 is getting dimmer, as >it is newer TFTs are getting brighter. I can confirm that. My girlfriend's laptop (a DEC machine, it must be a 1993/94 vintage) has a TFT display that is in brightness comparable to my TP 600's HPA screen. Still, the TFT is of course a lot faster than the HPA. Alexander -- Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ Never trust a HAL 9000. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 13:27:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA21460 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13558; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:21:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:19:29 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13383; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:19:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.1) id NAA18196 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:19:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08071; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:45:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:44:24 -0400 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-1.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id LAA10357; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <362CAFC9.B2FD2908@csc.com> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:44:09 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Rubin CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Windows re-install messes up video config! References: <199810191855.LAA12292@netcom19.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Re-installing Win95 most likely replaced the IBM video drivers with standard Windows ones. After the re-install, you should do all of the IBM-specific driver updates. These are available from IBM's web site. Some of the ones I'm referring to: audio features, video features, utilities, PC-Card drivers, trackpoint, etc. You don't need to re-update the BIOS ('system program'). IBM's web site has a nice grid showing which drivers are needed. It is currently located at http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3PGT93.html I don't know what ntkern.vxd does. If you know that you don't need it, you can avoid the message by editing your SYSTEM.INI file. Find the line with that file reference and remove it (or comment it out with a ';'). Use caution when editing system files. Make a backup! Good luck, Rob ----------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob_bell@nospam@csi.com ----------------------------------------- Paul Rubin wrote: > > I tried plugging a Hitachi (Microtech) flash card into my 770 and > the 770 thought it didn't have the right drivers, and sent me into > an installation wizard, which then somehow messed up the PCMCIA > configuration so I couldn't use any pcmcia cards including my modem. > I called tech support and after trying a bunch of things they had > me run Windows Setup again, which re-installed Windows from the > online .cab files. This didn't go too smoothly; a few files were > missing (none seemed important) and now when I boot it says > something about a non-functioning file in SYSTEM.INI then says > something about windows\system\vmm32\ntkern.vxd (which does exist). > It says hit any key to continue, and I do; and it comes up normally. > But it has put my screen in 256-color mode and the menu in Control > Panel no longer lets me choose 65536 colors, even at 800x600! > > Any idea what has happened and how I can fix it? It may be time for > the recovery cd.... :( From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 13:41:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA21665 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14684; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:40:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:37:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14509; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:37:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (smtp4.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14433; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:35:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA25730 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:22:47 -0400 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms05.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.197]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA16784 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:31:28 -0400 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU031 id 5040500021580151; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:33:31 -0400 From: Christopher Haun To: Subject: Re: Windows re-install messes up video config! Message-ID: <5040500021580151000002L012*@MHS> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:33:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: I don't know what the ntkern.vxd does either, but it IS a standard in95 system file. And I am fairly certain you need it. I suspect that the reinstall did not go smoothly. Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 rbell1@csc.com on 10/20/98 01:14:02 PM Please respond to rbell1@csc.com To: phr@netcom.com cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Windows re-install messes up video config! Re-installing Win95 most likely replaced the IBM video drivers with standard Windows ones. After the re-install, you should do all of the IBM-specific driver updates. These are available from IBM's web site. Some of the ones I'm referring to: audio features, video features, utilities, PC-Card drivers, trackpoint, etc. You don't need to re-update the BIOS ('system program'). IBM's web site has a nice grid showing which drivers are needed. It is currently located at http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3PGT93.html I don't know what ntkern.vxd does. If you know that you don't need it, you can avoid the message by editing your SYSTEM.INI file. Find the line with that file reference and remove it (or comment it out with a ';'). Use caution when editing system files. Make a backup! Good luck, Rob ----------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob_bell@nospam@csi.com ----------------------------------------- Paul Rubin wrote: > > I tried plugging a Hitachi (Microtech) flash card into my 770 and > the 770 thought it didn't have the right drivers, and sent me into > an installation wizard, which then somehow messed up the PCMCIA > configuration so I couldn't use any pcmcia cards including my modem. > I called tech support and after trying a bunch of things they had > me run Windows Setup again, which re-installed Windows from the > online .cab files. This didn't go too smoothly; a few files were > missing (none seemed important) and now when I boot it says > something about a non-functioning file in SYSTEM.INI then says > something about windows\system\vmm32\ntkern.vxd (which does exist). > It says hit any key to continue, and I do; and it comes up normally. > But it has put my screen in 256-color mode and the menu in Control > Panel no longer lets me choose 65536 colors, even at 800x600! > > Any idea what has happened and how I can fix it? It may be time for > the recovery cd.... :( From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 14:20:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA22263 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:19:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17575; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:14:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17389; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (smtp4.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17368; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:14:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA07766; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:00:37 -0400 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d03lms02.boulder.ibm.com [9.99.80.12]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA46952; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:08:53 -0400 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D03AU006 id 5030200037247366; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:24:23 -0400 From: Drew Gazey To: Cc: Subject: Re: windoze re-install messes up video config! Message-ID: <5030200037247366000002L062*@MHS> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:24:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: To fix the NTKERN err - run OEMUSB.EXE in C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS <<<<<<<<<< Begin Quote >>>>>>>> me run Windows Setup again, which re-installed Windows from the online .cab files. This didn't go too smoothly; a few files were missing (none seemed important) and now when I boot it says something about a non-functioning file in SYSTEM.INI then says something about windows\system\vmm32\ntkern.vxd (which does exist). It says hit any key to continue, and I do; and it comes up normally. <<<<<<<<>>>>> Drew. #include STD.DISCLAIMER = From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 14:50:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA22834 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19878; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:45:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19576; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:45:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19536; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:45:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p09.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.72]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA28299; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810201846.LAA28299@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Mark Gardiner" <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 20 Oct 98 11:44:13 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: DMA management on TP 755CX etc... List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:50:47 -0400, Mark Gardiner wrote: >I have a Thinkpad 755CX and under the Thinkpad setup app, you can assign >devices along with IRQ and DMA depending on whats spare... > >Can you assign a DMA to the modem ? - does it improve speed? > Not unless it has an integrated sound card. You only see DMA for NICs, sound cards, and disk adapters (SCSI, or whatever). >How about to a parallel scanner? > Probably not. If you were using SCSI, it would be a different story. >I have selected the ECP for my Parallel LPT1 which (when working!) will >supply my printe and scanner... Can I assign a specific DMA here too? > Hmmm... I think on some computers with ECP, you can assign a DMA address, but I prefer EPP, and I couldn't imagine using a scanner on the parallel port. >I know nothing of DMAs other than they relieve pressure on the CPU for >certain tasks... like a buffer...? > It stands for Direct Memory Access, which allows direct access to memory (AFAIK), without polling the CPU to get there. Which is why there is a DMA controller. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 15:04:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA23071 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:04:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21642; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:54:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21061; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:54:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20799; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p09.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.72]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA29299; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810201854.LAA29299@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Mark Gardiner" <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 20 Oct 98 11:52:19 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Does the 755CS have built-in Modem? List-Unsubscribe: Okay, only the DX4-100 and above has the mwave soundcard/modem, so if your friend has either the DX2 or DX4-75 models, he needs to buy a seperate PCMCIA modem. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 15:08:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA23156 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21976; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:58:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21701; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:58:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21605; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:57:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p09.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.72]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA29859; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810201859.LAA29859@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "billy@MIX.COM" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 20 Oct 98 11:56:24 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP 560, burned out motherboard List-Unsubscribe: >I ran in to something similar with my 755 except the DC to DC converter >is conking out. So instead of paying IBM to fix it I just got another >whole 755 from Electro Rents for $495. This way I also got a battery, >a hard disk with W95 installed on it, a screen with only one half bad >pixel, etc, etc, for slightly less money than just letting IBM fix the >first one (and having nothing more than what I started with when they >are done). ER even threw in a fairly decent carrying case plus their >service was good - I called them Thursday and it was here Friday... I ended up doing the same for my 701, because I don't have the time to fix the keyboard, display hinge (which is starting to go out), and the speaker, so I too bought a new 701, and comes with a battery, HD, floppy, etc... Amazing how much cheaper it is to buy a whole machine rather than have IBM fix it! -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 15:57:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA23820 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:57:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26388; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:54:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:51:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25776; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:51:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (smtp4.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25675; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:49:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA25314; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:35:52 -0400 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d03lms02.boulder.ibm.com [9.99.80.12]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA45254; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:44:31 -0400 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D03AU006 id 5030200037251564; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:00:01 -0400 From: Drew Gazey To: <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Does the 755CS have built-in Modem? Message-ID: <5030200037251564000002L042*@MHS> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:00:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: No 755Cs/755C had a built-in MWAVE modem (only 755CSE/CE/CV/CD/CDV and Pentium75 755CX) <<<<<<<<<< Begin Quote >>>>>>>>> I have a contact who has a 755CS and no manual/history. He is retired a= nd this is his first computer! He has asked about modems and I wondered if it had an in-built MWave un= it?? How can I clarify this?? <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> Drew. #include = From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 16:22:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA24165 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:22:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28127; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:21:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:16:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27843; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:16:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27824; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA00713; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:16:29 -1000 Message-ID: <002201bdfc66$8b472040$0db5ae80@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Mark Gardiner" <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, Subject: Re: DMA management on TP 755CX etc... Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:16:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I have a Thinkpad 755CX and under the Thinkpad setup app, you can assign devices along with IRQ and DMA depending on whats spare... I have selected the ECP for my Parallel LPT1 which (when working!) will supply my printe and scanner... Can I assign a specific DMA here too? ECP can and should have DMA assigned to it. If you're working in W95, the way W95 handles resource assignment for ECP is kind of irregular - I don't remember the details, but when I last had to do this kind of configuration (I have 4 parallel ports on my desktop machine) I found some nice resources on the web. You might start at http://www.dcc.ufal.br/~cws/Unindexed/ppans.htm - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 16:59:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA24668 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:59:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00126; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:55:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:45:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29466; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:45:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from statesville.net (cds-serv.knit-mon.com [206.228.212.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29448; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:44:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from statesville.net [206.228.212.163] by statesville.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.02) id A8E44C5F014A; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:56:04 EDT Message-ID: <362D0668.BDC90744@statesville.net> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:53:44 -0500 From: Dan Davis Reply-To: shady28@statesville.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Does the 755CS have built-in Modem? References: <199810201849.LAA28582@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a 755Cs. It does not have a built in modem, and AFAIK there is no place for a built-in modem (other than a PCMCIA slot). This is really a pretty decent little box. 487/75, upgraded to 36megs (maxed out) and an 810meg HDD. Display is still crisp (although it is a DSTN) and the machine seems fast for a 486 running Win95. Cheers, Dan Davis shady28@statesville.net ddavi32@jcpenney.com Paul Khoury wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:50:49 -0400, Mark Gardiner wrote: > > >I have a contact who has a 755CS and no manual/history. He is retired and > >this is his first computer! > > > >He has asked about modems and I wondered if it had an in-built MWave unit?? > > > >How can I clarify this?? > > > I think that the 755 does have a modem built in, but I will check my specs to be sure. > Just curious, is it the DX2-50, or the DX4-100? > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 -- "AMAZING GRACE, HOW SWEET THE SOUND OF ONE OR MORE NUMBERS REPRESENTED IN DIGITAL FORM." -MegaHAL, AI program, 2nd place in 1998 Loebner Touring Test From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 17:38:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA25264 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16129; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:56:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:52:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15504; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:52:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hil-img-4.compuserve.com (hil-img-4.compuserve.com [149.174.177.134]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15472; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by hil-img-4.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.14) id NAA22679 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:50:49 -0400 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: Does the 755CS have built-in Modem? Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: Message-ID: <199810201351_MC2-5D51-3075@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: I have a contact who has a 755CS and no manual/history. He is retired and= this is his first computer! He has asked about modems and I wondered if it had an in-built MWave unit= ?? How can I clarify this?? Cheers From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 17:55:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA25568 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21322; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:50:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20270; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20157; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:49:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p09.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.72]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA28780; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810201851.LAA28780@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Mark Gardiner" <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 20 Oct 98 11:48:31 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Does the 755CS have built-in Modem? List-Unsubscribe: Check out these URLs: http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/thinkpad/thinkpad755dx2.html http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/thinkpad/thinkpad755dx4.html -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 18:15:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA25856 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16134; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:52:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15485; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:52:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hil-img-1.compuserve.com (hil-img-1.compuserve.com [149.174.177.131]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15458; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by hil-img-1.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.14) id NAA29741 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:51:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:50:47 -0400 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: DMA management on TP 755CX etc... Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: Message-ID: <199810201351_MC2-5D51-3073@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: I have a Thinkpad 755CX and under the Thinkpad setup app, you can assign devices along with IRQ and DMA depending on whats spare... Can you assign a DMA to the modem ? - does it improve speed? How about to a parallel scanner? I have selected the ECP for my Parallel LPT1 which (when working!) will supply my printe and scanner... Can I assign a specific DMA here too? I know nothing of DMAs other than they relieve pressure on the CPU for certain tasks... like a buffer...? Cheers From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 18:21:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA25939 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:21:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04436; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:14:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04103; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:14:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dewdrop2.mindspring.com (dewdrop2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.82]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04091; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dts_jl ([209.192.46.204]) by dewdrop2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA31361; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:14:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981020180227.00b0c740@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:02:27 -0400 To: "Mark Gardiner" <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Does the 755CS have built-in Modem? In-Reply-To: <199810201849.LAA28582@stevie.loop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:50:49 -0400, Mark Gardiner wrote: >I have a contact who has a 755CS and no manual/history. He is retired and >this is his first computer! > >He has asked about modems and I wondered if it had an in-built MWave unit?? > >How can I clarify this?? > Nope, sorry, the MWave wasn't introduced until the 755CE and 755CSe models. You can double-check, however, by looking under the power switch. Is there an RJ-45 plug there? If so, it's got a builtin modem and is probably one of the 755CE models. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 18:22:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA25961 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20455; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:48:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19953; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:48:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19856; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:47:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p09.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.72]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA28582; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810201849.LAA28582@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Mark Gardiner" <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 20 Oct 98 11:46:35 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Does the 755CS have built-in Modem? List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:50:49 -0400, Mark Gardiner wrote: >I have a contact who has a 755CS and no manual/history. He is retired and >this is his first computer! > >He has asked about modems and I wondered if it had an in-built MWave unit?? > >How can I clarify this?? > I think that the 755 does have a modem built in, but I will check my specs to be sure. Just curious, is it the DX2-50, or the DX4-100? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 18:38:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA26219 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:38:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05355; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:35:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:30:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04929; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cedar.netten.net (root@cedar.netten.net [205.244.191.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04877; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:30:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dedra2 (net1-28.netten.net [206.229.193.28]) by cedar.netten.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA00322; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:29:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981020172639.00846470@mail.netten.net> X-Sender: shelby@mail.netten.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:26:39 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Larose Wynne Subject: H45 Quick Drive Cc: jbaird@netten.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I have recently purchased a H45 Technology Corp. Quick Drive- Parallel Port Hard Drive Kit. It supposedly will let you plug a case with a hard drive enclosed to the parallel port, giving you additional room when you are running out of hard drive space. I have a friend who installed one on his desktop with no problems. Tried to attach it to my 760ED IBM Thinkpad and although the drive will run the laptop does not recognize it. The manual for the H45 Quick drive states: The quick drive DOES NOT support DMA. If your Parallel Port is set to ECP mode, it must be changed in your CMOS setup. How would I access the CMOS and change the ECP? Any thoughts (step by step) appreciated. Also has anyone on this list successfully used a H45 Quick drive on their laptop? Thanks in advance for your expertise. Larose Wynne shelby@netten.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 18:44:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA26306 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:44:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06031; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:43:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:38:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05645; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:38:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05632; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:38:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p35.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.98]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA00302; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810202239.PAA00302@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Larose Wynne" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Cc: "jbaird@netten.net" Date: Tue, 20 Oct 98 15:36:41 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: H45 Quick Drive List-Unsubscribe: >The manual for the H45 Quick drive states: >The quick drive DOES NOT support DMA. If your Parallel Port is set to ECP >mode, it must be changed in your CMOS setup. > >How would I access the CMOS and change the ECP? > Try either EPP or SPP. Try pressing F1 to go to Easy Setup on a cold boot (after turning on the machine, no hibernation to resume to). >Any thoughts (step by step) appreciated. Also has anyone on this list >successfully used a H45 Quick drive on their laptop? > Other options might be a PCMCIA HD or a SCSI adapter, as these would be much faster IMO. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 20 19:15:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA26738 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:15:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07464; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:09:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:07:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07252; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07239; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:07:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA01582; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:07:29 -1000 Message-ID: <000c01bdfc7e$6cfde7a0$a61a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: , "Larose Wynne" Cc: Subject: Re: H45 Quick Drive Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:07:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >How would I access the CMOS and change the ECP? On most newer Thinkpads the hardware choice between ECP and EPP is made in the Thinkpad Features program - I don't know if this includes the 760, but I suspect it does. You can also keep ECP and disable the DMA - under W95 (at least) the port is then treated like an EPP (I think). - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 08:35:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA04808 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:35:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10001; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:35:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:33:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09829; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hil-img-8.compuserve.com (hil-img-8.compuserve.com [149.174.177.138]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09817; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:33:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hil-img-8.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.14) id IAA21715 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:32:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:32:29 -0400 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: ECP Parallel port help... Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: All Message-ID: <199810210832_MC2-5D68-7C60@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: I have just got a Plustek parallel port scanner (9636P) and am trying to setup the parallel port to accomodate ECP data transfer. I have a TPad 755CX and have a confliction in that W95 will only assign m= e a an ECP Port on LPT1 but the TPad setup will only assign the ECP option button on either LPT 2 or 3, but 3 conflicts with the Mwave Soundblaster compat card. Needless to say that the scanner utility/setup continuously scans LPT1 which of course is not the ECP port and thus fails to see any port as active! Mind you, I have also tried standard settings for Bi directional= only on LPT1 but the scanner will not be found on that either...?? How do you override stupid W95 so that it will do as its told ??!! Thanks anyone... Mark From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 09:20:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA05324 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11767; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:19:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:19:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11658; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:19:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.inreach.com (pager.inreach.com [209.142.0.209]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11645; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:19:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jerryray (209-142-2-79.stk.inreach.net [209.142.2.79]) by mail.inreach.com (8.8.8/8.8.6/(InReach)) with ESMTP id GAA02949 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 06:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810211310.GAA02949@mail.inreach.com> Reply-To: From: "Janice Ray" To: "thinkpad" Subject: Need help Please Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 06:17:04 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello,everyone I am in need of a helping hand getting an old laptop hardrive upgraded. It is a IBM L40Sx which is a old 386SX PS/2 antique. I am trying to add a 170 meg hardrive inplace of the origional 60 meg hardrive. I can not get it to self detect the larger size of the new hardrive. May be it needs a bios upgrade? I have tryed 3 different good 2.5 hardrives. Can anyone please help me to figure this out? Please do not tell me to through this laptop away.IT is old but I like it very much. Thanks Janice djmusic@inreach.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 10:42:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA06365 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16766; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:41:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:40:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16630; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16616; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:40:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 770 (user-38ld1ia.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.134.74]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA16895 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:40:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad list" Subject: Suspend will not work with 770 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:36:35 -0400 Message-ID: <000501bdfd00$34ab22a0$fee44ecf@770> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I have a 9449-1AU with Win98 installed. It will not suspend or hibernate with any consistency. Two hard drive partitions, both Win32. I have one PC card that lives in a slot all of the time. It's a XIRCOM 10/100 + 56K Modem card. At the end of the day I generally detach my Network connection to the PC card and pull the laptop out of the Selectabase unit. I try to put the laptop into suspend but it usually does not respond and will remain fully powered up even after I disconnect the AC by pulling it out of the Selectabase. I do not have a Docking Station. Anyone have any ideas what's wrong? -Bill Armstrong From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 11:29:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07024 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:29:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19279; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:26:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19123; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19096; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:26:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA39742 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:09:17 -0400 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms05.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.197]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA50336 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:22:22 -0400 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU031 id 5040500021610470; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:24:20 -0400 From: Christopher Haun To: Subject: Re: Suspend will not work with 770 Message-ID: <5040500021610470000002L002*@MHS> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:24:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Try removing the Xircom Card - it is a Cardbus card and is most likely the problem Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 warmstrong@waldinc.com on 10/21/98 10:35:50 AM Please respond to warmstrong@waldinc.com To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: Suspend will not work with 770 I have a 9449-1AU with Win98 installed. It will not suspend or hibernate with any consistency. Two hard drive partitions, both Win32. I have one PC card that lives in a slot all of the time. It's a XIRCOM 10/100 + 56K Modem card. At the end of the day I generally detach my Network connection to the PC card and pull the laptop out of the Selectabase unit. I try to put the laptop into suspend but it usually does not respond and will remain fully powered up even after I disconnect the AC by pulling it out of the Selectabase. I do not have a Docking Station. Anyone have any ideas what's wrong? -Bill Armstrong From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 11:47:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07256 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21167; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:45:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21045; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:45:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21018; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:45:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 770 (user-38ld1ia.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.134.74]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA31891 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:45:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad list" Subject: RE: Suspend will not work with 770 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:41:06 -0400 Message-ID: <000801bdfd09$3765e6c0$fee44ecf@770> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <5040500021610470000002L002*@MHS> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Thanks, I'll try this. If that works does that mean I always have to remove it in order to suspend properly, or is this a XIRCOM driver problem? -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Haun [mailto:chaun@us.ibm.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 11:24 AM To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Suspend will not work with 770 Try removing the Xircom Card - it is a Cardbus card and is most likely the problem Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 warmstrong@waldinc.com on 10/21/98 10:35:50 AM Please respond to warmstrong@waldinc.com To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: Suspend will not work with 770 I have a 9449-1AU with Win98 installed. It will not suspend or hibernate with any consistency. Two hard drive partitions, both Win32. I have one PC card that lives in a slot all of the time. It's a XIRCOM 10/100 + 56K Modem card. At the end of the day I generally detach my Network connection to the PC card and pull the laptop out of the Selectabase unit. I try to put the laptop into suspend but it usually does not respond and will remain fully powered up even after I disconnect the AC by pulling it out of the Selectabase. I do not have a Docking Station. Anyone have any ideas what's wrong? -Bill Armstrong From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 13:01:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA08531 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:01:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26220; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:01:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:53:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25691; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gwrr.com ([208.161.80.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25678; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:53:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from GWIDom-Message_Server by gwrr.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:33:32 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:26:28 -0400 From: "Vernon Wankerl" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: H45 Quick Drive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Larose, I have both the Quick Drive (which uses a 3.5=22 drive) and the Pocket = Drive (which uses a 2.5=22 drive). I have used them regularly on my TP = 365XD with no problems under Win95 and OS/2 Warp 4. I needed to set my = parallel port to Bi-directional. Also, shouldn=27t use the ECP/EPP = setting that uses DMA. The H45 drives cannot use DMA. The drives are = slower than SCSI or PCMCIA connected drives, but they are more than = adequate for most functions. I have had one problem with them. The short 25-pin caable that came with = the PocketDrive has failed. On of the wires in the cable has evidently = broken. Testing shows that all 25 pins are connected straight through, so = it is fairly easy to replace it. By the way, it is possible to connect 2 3.5=22 drives in the Quick Drive = but of course, you could not close the case. Both drives are visible to = the operation system. The H45 electronics is essentially like an IDE = controller that can be set to the Secondary IDE settings. H45 should = possibly make a case that will hold 2 drives. Vern Larose Wynne wrote: >=20 > Hi, I have recently purchased a H45 Technology Corp. Quick Drive- = Parallel > Port Hard Drive Kit. It supposedly will let you plug a case with a hard > drive enclosed to the parallel port, giving you additional room when you > are running out of hard drive space. >=20 > I have a friend who installed one on his desktop with no problems. Tried = to > attach it to my 760ED IBM Thinkpad and although the drive will run the > laptop does not recognize it. >=20 > The manual for the H45 Quick drive states: > The quick drive DOES NOT support DMA. If your Parallel Port is set to = ECP > mode, it must be changed in your CMOS setup. >=20 > How would I access the CMOS and change the ECP? >=20 > Any thoughts (step by step) appreciated. Also has anyone on this list > successfully used a H45 Quick drive on their laptop? >=20 > Thanks in advance for your expertise. >=20 > Larose Wynne > shelby=40netten.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 13:07:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA08609 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:07:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26664; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:06:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:05:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26484; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:05:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26464; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:05:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p44.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.107]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA01688; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810211706.KAA01688@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "djmusic@inreach.com" , "thinkpad" Date: Wed, 21 Oct 98 10:03:11 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Need help Please List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 06:17:04 -0700, Janice Ray wrote: >Hello,everyone I am in need of a helping hand getting an old laptop >hardrive upgraded. >It is a IBM L40Sx which is a old 386SX PS/2 antique. And is ISA I believe, so it shouldn't need a proprietary HD. I am trying > to add a 170 meg hardrive inplace of the origional 60 meg hardrive. I can >not get it to self detect the larger size of the new hardrive. May be it >needs a bios upgrade? Have you ever upgraded the BIOS in this machine? Usually, this makes a BIG difference. I have tryed 3 different good 2.5 hardrives. >Can anyone please help me to figure this out? Please do not tell me to >through this laptop away. Why should we say that? I have a ThinkPad 300, which is a 386SL-25, and it's very dependable. I am thinking of selling it because my ThinkPad 750 sort of replaced it, though. IT is old but I like it very much. Have you tried putting a jumper on the drive to make it the master drive? I know this diagram is complicated looking, but here it is... TOP :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :H the H is the jumper. On the older drives, you put it on the farthest right jumper BOTTOM (circuitry) (in the block that only has 4 pins) for master, nothing for slave, and another setting for cable select, which is not used much. Ironically, when I upgraded my 701's HD to a 2.1GB, it was the opposite. Oh well... Also, make sure that you aren't using any HDs larger than 540MB, because of the potential BIOS limitation. The problem might either be the jumpers, or that the BIOS doesn't autodetect the IDE drive, and has a list of drives for which your drives (and Type 47) don't exist. I had a similiar problem with several Compaq deskpros. Hope this helps. =) -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 13:15:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA08716 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27423; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:15:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:14:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27299; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:14:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27212; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:13:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p44.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.107]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA02959; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810211714.KAA02959@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" , "Vernon Wankerl" Date: Wed, 21 Oct 98 10:11:49 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: H45 Quick Drive List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:26:28 -0400, Vernon Wankerl wrote: >Larose, > >I have both the Quick Drive (which uses a 3.5" drive) and the Pocket Drive (which uses a 2.5" drive). I have used them regularly on my TP 365XD with no problems under Win95 and OS/2 Warp 4. I needed to set my parallel port to Bi-directional. Also, shouldn't use the ECP/EPP setting that uses DMA. The H45 drives cannot use DMA. The drives are slower than SCSI or PCMCIA connected drives, but they are more than adequate for most functions. Wow, even works with OS/2. As for speed, especially on a notebook, is it slower than a 16x or higher SCSI or IDE CD-ROM? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 13:34:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09035 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:34:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29171; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:33:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29001; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marlin.nosc.mil (root@marlin.nosc.mil [128.49.4.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28988; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:33:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dseaman (seaman.nosc.mil [128.49.190.51]) by marlin.nosc.mil (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA28999; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:25:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "Derek Seaman" To: "William Armstrong" , "ThinkPad list" Subject: RE: Suspend will not work with 770 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:27:42 -0700 Message-ID: <000601bdfd18$1ba73fb0$33be3180@dseaman.spawar.navy.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <000801bdfd09$3765e6c0$fee44ecf@770> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: It's a Xircom driver problem. I have the same problem. Xircom says it's not normal and I'm working with them to try and resolve the problem. Give their tech support a call at 805 376-6763. That's the guy that is helping me. > -----Original Message----- > From: William Armstrong [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 8:41 AM > To: ThinkPad list > Subject: RE: Suspend will not work with 770 > > > Thanks, I'll try this. If that works does that mean I always > have to remove > it in order to suspend properly, or is this a XIRCOM driver problem? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Haun [mailto:chaun@us.ibm.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 11:24 AM > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Suspend will not work with 770 > > Try removing the Xircom Card - it is a Cardbus card and is most likely the > problem > > Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] > IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center > Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 > Mobile: 919-260-1368 > > > > warmstrong@waldinc.com on 10/21/98 10:35:50 AM > Please respond to warmstrong@waldinc.com > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > cc: > Subject: Suspend will not work with 770 > > > I have a 9449-1AU with Win98 installed. It will not suspend or hibernate > with any consistency. Two hard drive partitions, both Win32. I > have one PC > card that lives in a slot all of the time. It's a XIRCOM 10/100 > + 56K Modem > card. At the end of the day I generally detach my Network > connection to the > PC card and pull the laptop out of the Selectabase unit. I try to put the > laptop into suspend but it usually does not respond and will remain fully > powered up even after I disconnect the AC by pulling it out of the > Selectabase. I do not have a Docking Station. > > Anyone have any ideas what's wrong? > > -Bill Armstrong > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 14:14:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA09735 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:14:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02234; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:14:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:12:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02038; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gwrr.com ([208.161.80.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02016; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from GWIDom-Message_Server by gwrr.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:13:02 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:05:53 -0400 From: "Vernon Wankerl" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: H45 Quick Drive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Paul, Yep, works well with OS/2, but you need to get the drivers from their Web = site, they don=27t come with the devices. I haven=27t done any quantitative comparisons when it comes to speed, but = my main purpose for it was to have access to large amounts of disk space, = make use of the spare dirves I have after upgrading the TP with a larger = HD, and save money by not going to SCSI drives or other PCMCIA solutions. = (the H45 devices are less than =24100 retail) I wouldn=27t want to use it = as my primary drive but it is very adequate for data storage and perhaps = archival types of storage. I suppose if you can compare a SCSI CDROM to a = parallel CDROM you might have some idea about the speed difference. I = don=27t know because I haven=27t tried it. > Wow, even works with OS/2. As for speed, especially on a notebook, is = it > slower > than a 16x or higher SCSI or IDE CD-ROM? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 15:10:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA10599 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:10:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05547; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:09:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:07:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05076; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:07:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (smtp4.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04987; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:07:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA92366 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:54:18 -0400 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms05.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.197]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA22388 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:02:58 -0400 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU031 id 5040500021620418; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:04:55 -0400 From: Christopher Haun To: Subject: ThinkPad 600 & OS/2 Message-ID: <5040500021620418000002L082*@MHS> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:04:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: I am having a problem getting the NeoMagic video card to work properly in OS/2 Warp 4 (Merlin). There are two symptoms 1. When running a Win-OS/2 session the screen goes blank. 2. In the system panel under display, all the Video mode listings are missing. Has anyone had these problems? Does anyone else even use OS/2 anymore? :-) Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 15:42:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA11073 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07874; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:39:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07656; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mb1.mailbank.com (mb1.mailbank.com [204.244.193.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07635; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:38:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pp111-167.bctel.ca [209.52.111.167] (HELO master) by mb1.mailbank.com (AltaVista Mail V2.0H/2.0H BL25H listener) id 0000_00d6_362e_33e7_c3dd; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:20:07 -0700 Message-ID: <004d01bdfd27$e11084f0$a76f34d1@master.adsl.bctel.net> From: "David S. Crombie" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: 365XD screen problem Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:20:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004A_01BDFCED.34930160" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01BDFCED.34930160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am trying to compile a list of users on this mailing list that have = had screen problems with the 365 series of computers (specifically the = 365XD (10.4" TFT)). I have seen the same problem brought up over and = over and the only fix that I have seen work (other than the toggle = mentioned) is a replacement screen (a little expensive considering the = model is 2 years old). If anybody has this problem, has fixed this problem, or knows of some = other unfortunate user without an extended warranty (like me) who has = this problem please email me. Thanks __________________ David Crombie david@crombie.com ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01BDFCED.34930160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am trying to compile a list of = users on this=20 mailing list that have had screen problems with the 365 series of = computers=20 (specifically the 365XD (10.4" TFT)).  I have seen the same = problem=20 brought up over and over and the only fix that I have seen work (other = than the=20 toggle mentioned) is a replacement screen (a little expensive = considering the=20 model is 2 years old).
 
If anybody has this problem, has = fixed this=20 problem, or knows of some other unfortunate user without an extended = warranty=20 (like me) who has this problem please email me.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_004A_01BDFCED.34930160-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 15:50:41 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA11182 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:50:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08584; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:50:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:47:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08406; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:47:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08387; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA05449; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:47:32 -1000 Message-ID: <001301bdfd2b$ab75ff60$a21a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Mark Gardiner" <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Cc: "All" Subject: Re: ECP Parallel port help... Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:47:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >I have just got a Plustek parallel port scanner (9636P) and am trying to >setup the parallel port to accomodate ECP data transfer. >I have a TPad 755CX and have a confliction in that W95 will only assign me >a an ECP Port on LPT1 This must be parallel port week on the ThinkPad list! You can certainly tell 95 to make any port an ECP if the hardware permits, you just have to choose an ECP configuration in the device manager then then manually fiddle with the resource allocations. However, you *might* have to update your version of W95 - some of this stuff changed a lot early in OSR2. Go to http://www.walbeehm.com/win95upd.html for OS updates. Oh, and in case you didn't see my last post on the subject, http://www.dcc.ufal.br/~cws/Unindexed/ppans.htm is a good starting point for parallel port questions. Unlike some drives, scanners do *not* operate faster in ECP than EPP; since the latter is usually easier to configure, I suggest you use that. You say you tried bidirectional and had trouble; did you try rebooting with the scanner turned on? W95 is kind of brain-dead when it comes to correct on-the-fly identification of devices on the printer port. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 16:55:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA11965 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06803; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:22:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06627; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06613; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:22:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810211922.PAA06613@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Thu, 20 Oct 1988 12:18:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor Kress" To: "Christopher Haun" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:23:24 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ThinkPad 600 & OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: Install the drivers from the web site (http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/support/tps/dskt3.html). As I remember, the process is fairly painless and works great. You should be able to get every feature on the tp600 working. On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:04:55 -0400, Christopher Haun wrote: >I am having a problem getting the NeoMagic video card to work properly in OS/2 >Warp 4 (Merlin). >There are two symptoms >1. When running a Win-OS/2 session the screen goes blank. >2. In the system panel under display, all the Video mode listings are missing. >Has anyone had these problems? Does anyone else even use OS/2 anymore? :-) > >Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] >IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center >Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 >Mobile: 919-260-1368 ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 18:32:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA13395 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29768; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:29:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27925; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:29:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27571; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ms154504 (user-37kb6kr.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.154.155]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA11322; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:29:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810212229.SAA11322@camel14.mindspring.com> X-Sender: rchalk@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:28:59 -0400 To: "Derek Seaman" , "William Armstrong" , "ThinkPad list" From: Richard Chalk Subject: RE: Suspend will not work with 770 In-Reply-To: <000601bdfd18$1ba73fb0$33be3180@dseaman.spawar.navy.mil> References: <000801bdfd09$3765e6c0$fee44ecf@770> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Also make sure you have installed the latest version of the Ultrabay driver, as this will also interfere with suspend in Windows98. Richard At 10:27 AM 10/21/98 -0700, Derek Seaman wrote: >It's a Xircom driver problem. I have the same problem. Xircom says it's not >normal and I'm working with them to try and resolve the problem. > >Give their tech support a call at 805 376-6763. That's the guy that is >helping me. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: William Armstrong [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 8:41 AM >> To: ThinkPad list >> Subject: RE: Suspend will not work with 770 >> >> >> Thanks, I'll try this. If that works does that mean I always >> have to remove >> it in order to suspend properly, or is this a XIRCOM driver problem? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Christopher Haun [mailto:chaun@us.ibm.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 11:24 AM >> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >> Subject: Re: Suspend will not work with 770 >> >> Try removing the Xircom Card - it is a Cardbus card and is most likely the >> problem >> >> Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] >> IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center >> Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 >> Mobile: 919-260-1368 >> >> >> >> warmstrong@waldinc.com on 10/21/98 10:35:50 AM >> Please respond to warmstrong@waldinc.com >> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >> cc: >> Subject: Suspend will not work with 770 >> >> >> I have a 9449-1AU with Win98 installed. It will not suspend or hibernate >> with any consistency. Two hard drive partitions, both Win32. I >> have one PC >> card that lives in a slot all of the time. It's a XIRCOM 10/100 >> + 56K Modem >> card. At the end of the day I generally detach my Network >> connection to the >> PC card and pull the laptop out of the Selectabase unit. I try to put the >> laptop into suspend but it usually does not respond and will remain fully >> powered up even after I disconnect the AC by pulling it out of the >> Selectabase. I do not have a Docking Station. >> >> Anyone have any ideas what's wrong? >> >> -Bill Armstrong >> >> >> >> >> > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 19:00:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA13720 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:00:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26052; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:00:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:55:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22705; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:55:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhub.Stanford.EDU (mailhub.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22311; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:55:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pc-finkr-01.stanford.edu (PC-Finkr-01.Stanford.EDU [36.117.1.56]) by mailhub.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8/L) with SMTP id PAA25621 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810212255.PAA25621@mailhub.Stanford.EDU> X-Sender: rfink@rfink.pobox.stanford.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:55:22 -0700 To: From: Robert Fink Subject: Does DVD make CD-ROM redundant? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: This is not a philosophical question, but a purely technical one. Through unforseen circumstances, I find myself the proud owner of a new IBM DVD drive, happily ensconsed in my UltraBay and playing Peckinpah's _The Wild Bunch_ to most impressive effect. (I knew that 14.1 screen would be worth the $$$!) The question: I *also* have a 24X CD-Rom drive. Is there any technical reason, any usage situation, where the CDROM will do something faster or better than the DVDROM? Or should I just try to sell the CDROM? (Anybody want it...?) rwf PS: Let's pass over the weight consideration (DVD is noticeably heavier than the CD); the thing's a brick anyway. _____________________________________________ Robert Fink UCLA; Stanford Humanities Center 98-99 NEW: rfink@leland.stanford.edu bfink@ix.netcom.com "Just like virtual sound-objects in sampler music technology, subjectivity today is a gaseous element, expanding and contracting, time-stretched, cross-faded, and sound-accelerated." --Kroker and Weinstein, _Data Trash_ ______________________________________________ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 19:19:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA14017 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10979; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:18:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:16:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09124; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:16:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08690; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dgoldman.vip.best.com (dgoldman.vip.best.com [204.156.137.147]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.out) with SMTP id QAA09103 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981021161056.0090a510@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:10:56 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: [Thinkpad 380Z] Comments requested Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I'm about to purchase a new laptop to replace a 3-year-old non-IBM laptop that no longer meets my needs. Since I require a system that can run NT 4 Workstation and OS/2 Warp 4 (probably via System Commander), I'm leaning towards getting an IBM Think pad. After all, only IBM is willing to support both NT and OS/2. The model under consideration is the Think pad 380Z (P-II/300, 96MB, 4GB HD 13.3" TFT, etc). Does anybody have any comments on this model running either NT or OS/2? Any comments, good or bad, would be greatly appreciated. My second question is more subjective. The best price I can find locally is $3200 (plus the 64MB upgrade). The best price I can find on the net is $3057 (plus the 64MB upgrade). The other difference is that if I buy it locally, I'll end up paying 8.25% sales tax on the system (about another $275). However, if I purchase via the net, I pay about $10 for shipping and $0 for sales tax. The question is: Is it worth $425 MORE ($150 difference + $275 sales tax) to purchase it locally and have local support vs saving the money and having to deal with a "mail order" vendor in another state? Again, any comments would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- David Goldman From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 20:54:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA15241 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:54:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14908; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:24:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:21:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13113; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:21:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (root@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.134.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12673; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:21:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gtwang@localhost (fake: stdin (HELO localhost) (ident: uid#20647@localhost)) by calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <367596-23656>; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:20:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:20:38 -0400 (EDT) Sender: Gerald Wang From: Gerald Wang X-Sender: gtwang@calum To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Does DVD make CD-ROM redundant? In-Reply-To: <199810212255.PAA25621@mailhub.Stanford.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Robert Fink wrote: > This is not a philosophical question, but a purely technical one. Through > unforseen circumstances, I find myself the proud owner of a new IBM DVD > drive, happily ensconsed in my UltraBay and playing Peckinpah's _The Wild > Bunch_ to most impressive effect. (I knew that 14.1 screen would be worth > the $$$!) Lucky you! :-) > The question: I *also* have a 24X CD-Rom drive. Is there any technical > reason, any usage situation, where the CDROM will do something faster or > better than the DVDROM? Or should I just try to sell the CDROM? (Anybody > want it...?) I don't think it will be faster as, if I'm not mistaken, DVD drives play back CD-ROMs at 32x. By the way, is that an external CD-ROm drive you have there? Regards, Gerald From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 21:58:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA16106 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:58:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11705; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:55:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:52:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08750; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:52:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (mailbox.adm.binghamton.edu [128.226.10.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08314; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from user (bing20.net107.binghamton.edu [128.226.107.20]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA02413; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:51:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810220151.VAA02413@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-travaganza: http://free-music.com/ken Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:51:45 -0400 To: David Goldman , Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: Re: [Thinkpad 380Z] Comments requested In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981021161056.0090a510@shell9.ba.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: >sales tax. The question is: Is it worth $425 MORE ($150 difference + $275 >sales tax) to purchase it locally and have local support vs saving the money >and having to deal with a "mail order" vendor in another state? Again, any Exactly what local support are you going to get? I would suspect that, for most problems with the machine, the machine would have to be sent to an IBM technician one way or the other. Indeed, I don't know if I'd trust a non-IBM-authorized store messing with my laptop. So, perhaps >where you buy< the machine doesn't change much about >where you'll get it serviced<. Ken - kenzo@free-music.com - - http://free-music.com/ken/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 22:12:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA16370 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:12:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25754; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:11:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:09:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23683; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:09:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp5.teleport.com (smtp5.teleport.com [192.108.254.44]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23327; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:08:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14027 invoked from network); 22 Oct 1998 02:08:37 -0000 Received: from user1.teleport.com (pccare@192.108.254.10) by smtp5.teleport.com with SMTP; 22 Oct 1998 02:08:37 -0000 Received: (from pccare@localhost) by user1.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA22590; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:07:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick West To: Robert Fink cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Does DVD make CD-ROM redundant? In-Reply-To: <199810212255.PAA25621@mailhub.Stanford.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Some low quality cds and many home made (CD-r) diskscan not be read by dvd drives. On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Robert Fink wrote: > The question: I *also* have a 24X CD-Rom drive. Is there any technical > reason, any usage situation, where the CDROM will do something faster or Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 22:24:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA16535 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06350; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:23:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:21:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04710; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:21:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp5.teleport.com (smtp5.teleport.com [192.108.254.44]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04282; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22397 invoked from network); 22 Oct 1998 02:20:52 -0000 Received: from user1.teleport.com (pccare@192.108.254.10) by smtp5.teleport.com with SMTP; 22 Oct 1998 02:20:52 -0000 Received: (from pccare@localhost) by user1.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA23178; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:20:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick West To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: IBM TP 2.1GB HD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Folks, I saw this for sale and wonder how I could tell if it would work in my Tpad 360cse? >IBM TP 2.1GB HD >IBM TinkPad Hard Drive in a mounting KIT for TP 380/385 Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 22:28:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA16582 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09147; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:27:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:25:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07289; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:25:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06853; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:24:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 770 (user-38ld1h7.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.134.39]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA06255 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:24:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad list" Subject: RE: Suspend will not work with 770 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:19:49 -0400 Message-ID: <000d01bdfd62$7246b220$fee44ecf@770> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000601bdfd18$1ba73fb0$33be3180@dseaman.spawar.navy.mil> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Thanks, Derek. This is kind of what I thought. I'll call them tomorrow if I have a chance. I also have had some problems getting the card to work properly on my network when I reconnect it in the morning. Recently I reinstalled the drivers for the card and also the network drivers and this seems to have helped. I wasn't have trouble getting the ThinkPad to see the network, but rather getting the other computers to see the ThinkPad. Regards, Bill -----Original Message----- From: Derek Seaman [mailto:dseaman@spawar.navy.mil] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 1:28 PM To: William Armstrong; ThinkPad list Subject: RE: Suspend will not work with 770 It's a Xircom driver problem. I have the same problem. Xircom says it's not normal and I'm working with them to try and resolve the problem. Give their tech support a call at 805 376-6763. That's the guy that is helping me. > -----Original Message----- > From: William Armstrong [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 8:41 AM > To: ThinkPad list > Subject: RE: Suspend will not work with 770 > > > Thanks, I'll try this. If that works does that mean I always > have to remove > it in order to suspend properly, or is this a XIRCOM driver problem? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Haun [mailto:chaun@us.ibm.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 11:24 AM > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Suspend will not work with 770 > > Try removing the Xircom Card - it is a Cardbus card and is most likely the > problem > > Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] > IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center > Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 > Mobile: 919-260-1368 > > > > warmstrong@waldinc.com on 10/21/98 10:35:50 AM > Please respond to warmstrong@waldinc.com > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > cc: > Subject: Suspend will not work with 770 > > > I have a 9449-1AU with Win98 installed. It will not suspend or hibernate > with any consistency. Two hard drive partitions, both Win32. I > have one PC > card that lives in a slot all of the time. It's a XIRCOM 10/100 > + 56K Modem > card. At the end of the day I generally detach my Network > connection to the > PC card and pull the laptop out of the Selectabase unit. I try to put the > laptop into suspend but it usually does not respond and will remain fully > powered up even after I disconnect the AC by pulling it out of the > Selectabase. I do not have a Docking Station. > > Anyone have any ideas what's wrong? > > -Bill Armstrong > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 22:34:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA16648 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:34:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14587; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:34:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:32:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13089; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:32:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12675; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id VAA14953 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:32:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:32:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755CX & Win95, anyone? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Bonk bonk on the head! I've been reading this list daily, quietly ignoring all that did not pertain to me and my lowly 750P (which was almost everything). And now I have another ThinkPad; a 755CX. It seems cool, with its spiffy TFT at 800x600 and MWave and infrared stuff, but none of that works. That is, I haven't tried the MWave drivers download, and is IR just supposed to work? Also, 800x600 mode does not work. Criminy. I know there are no video drivers for Win95 on IBM's site. I'd be grateful if some kind soul would nudge me along on this. Chris Schumann From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 21 22:52:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA16847 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08677; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:27:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:23:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06273; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05934; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:22:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA07695; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:22:50 -1000 Message-ID: <000201bdfd62$e63e3220$dc1a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "All" Subject: [TPALL] right glue for broken hinge? Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:20:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Well, my 560 just suffered the dread 'broken plastic at the hinge' problem which seems to affect so many ThinkPads. Has anyone yet figured out the right glue to use here? My guess is ABS plastic adhesive, but if anyone has found the 'perfect' glue I'd like to hear about it. (BTW, I have a remarkable glue selection at home, the result of owning an Italian car for which replacement parts need to be rebuilt since replacements are hard to find, but right now 'home' is 4000 miles away:-( BTW, I'm working under the assumption that IBM doesn't fix this sort of thing under warrantee... - David R. ross@math.hawaii.edu, currently glueless in Illinois From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 00:11:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA17707 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:11:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22597; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:09:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20938; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (smtp.email.msn.com [207.68.143.177]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20500; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:08:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default - 153.36.134.237 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:08:24 -0700 Message-ID: <003201bdfd71$8e1ae160$ed862499@default> From: "MJC" To: Subject: (TP i Series) Thoughts? Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 23:05:59 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Hi all, I am new to the list. I am in the process of replacing my desktop (a Dell Dimension 75) for a ThinkPad i Series. Originally I wanted to buy the TP 600 but I believe the i is a good configuration at a great price. I do not plan to travel a lot with it, so the 2 extra pounds are not a problem. I use Msft Office (Word and Excel) and the Net (stock trading) most of the time, so I don't think I need super fast processing. What do you think, am I going in the right direction? I'm looking forward to enjoy this list and thanks for your help. MJC. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 01:41:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA18616 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 01:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27401; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 01:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 01:37:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24310; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 01:37:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23968; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 01:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA28572; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:37:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:37:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Vincent Poy To: Patrick West cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IBM TP 2.1GB HD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Patrick West wrote: Hi everyone, I have a 385ED and I'm trying to figure out how to open the case to expose the internal parts like the hard drive and does it have a cooling fan inside the case? Thanks. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > > Folks, > > > I saw this for sale and wonder how I could tell if it would work in my > Tpad 360cse? > > > >IBM TP 2.1GB HD > > >IBM TinkPad Hard Drive in a mounting KIT for TP 380/385 > > > Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp > PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D > Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu > > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 03:37:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA19461 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:37:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05869; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:36:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:33:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02610; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:33:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA01616; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:32:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA14957 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:31:03 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199810220631.JAA14957@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:29:15 -0100 (TUR) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP600/Win98: Country! Modem! List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Well, I should not have installed W98 on the laptop.. It just looks fancier, but just the same old crap - PCMCIA that freezes up the machine if you hot-plug it, and now the modem.. "Cannot find the modem settings for your country" regardless of which country I pick. Won't dial anywhere. I re-installed the 5-diskette Modem application, downloaded and installed the Updated Country File, still nothing. I tried "Usa" "Italy" and "Turkey" as "I am now in...", but it it wont dial! Fortunately, I have OS/2 loaded on the second partition, which dials and connects beautifully to my ISP :) - -turgut - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! 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From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 04:55:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA19932 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 04:55:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09497; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:42:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:37:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06713; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:37:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03634; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:34:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA02863 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:34:11 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199810220634.JAA02863@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:32:21 -0100 (TUR) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <000201bdfd62$e63e3220$dc1a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TPALL] right glue for broken hinge? List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Just out of curiosity; I am impressed with the failures people have; just exactly how do you use your machine? On this list, I have seen cracked hinges, cracked displays, cracked cases! How do you manage it? :) - -t - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNi8XxTJjYwErN0xZAQGT4QP9EIWuMwHhhdZZQpwM4ea0kQBZHlz//kXs GQGe9BoxMDnslric12Ja0U5wGwSqLViE2QfGgIdFwpK5RwAu8Dky6FBzP+lAwZ6S xqo/2ohXIvT7u1XU+VYpREyQoFUU0iZbRtJD65XMXnM30RioGNaCowuKo4ePATyQ vCczbjPZSlw= =Fd5c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Windows Error 033: User Error; Lemming Not Found From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 05:00:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA19962 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 05:00:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09542; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:42:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:39:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA07540; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06877; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:38:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA05442; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:37:30 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199810220637.JAA05442@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Christopher Haun" Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:35:41 -0100 (TUR) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <5040500021620418000002L082*@MHS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ThinkPad 600 & OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:04:55 -0400, Christopher Haun wrote: >I am having a problem getting the NeoMagic video card to work properly in OS/2 >Warp 4 (Merlin). >There are two symptoms >1. When running a Win-OS/2 session the screen goes blank. >2. In the system panel under display, all the Video mode listings are missing. >Has anyone had these problems? Does anyone else even use OS/2 anymore? :-) Quite a few :) I am not happy with any Microsoft offerings; so my PC is still M$-free, not because of some grudge really, I just find better software for OS/2 for my tasks. Did you re-install the OS/2 Video driver diskette? Sounds like you are using the VGA default setup there.. PS: You may want to join the os2-l discussion list by sending a SUB OS2-L Christopher Haun in the body of an email to listserv@nic.surfnet.nl address. Wealth of information there! - -turgut - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNi8YjTJjYwErN0xZAQHggQP9FmxtnoYyxn9sbaUr/Rm8Zk2wHxeZqRUV SkyID8mnbrmFQpllFwzdX3uaFyBoFpmuJPK+zta4Y9YOFPFI2jFCNu8wu++FYpm4 YeTKd4O03Csh6NYSVP4zprKqZwmUESzevew3w+MEHBFlE17Sph1aQL+9LypxwmAE 5ZY2DKU5opI= =uWTn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Windows Error 02C: Unexpected Intelligent User Encountered From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 08:36:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA21326 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:36:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00297; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:35:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:32:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27044; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:32:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26668; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:31:25 -0400 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id IAA07129 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:31:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <362F25AE.7767868D@csc.com> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:31:42 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 755CX & Win95, anyone? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: There certainly should be drivers for each of the components you mentioned on IBM's web site. You will need to install IBM's drivers before those components will work (either correctly or up to their full potential, depending on the component). The driver matrix for the 755Cx is at http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3PLMY2.html. While you're at it, install the latest utility features and Windows 95 Enhancement disk too. If you can't find drivers for the components, call IBM at 1-800-772-2227. I do know that these things work on the 755Cx. My company had a good number of them at one time. HTH, Rob Chris Schumann wrote: > > Bonk bonk on the head! > > I've been reading this list daily, quietly ignoring all that did not > pertain to me and my lowly 750P (which was almost everything). > > And now I have another ThinkPad; a 755CX. It seems cool, with its spiffy > TFT at 800x600 and MWave and infrared stuff, but none of that works. > > That is, I haven't tried the MWave drivers download, and is IR just > supposed to work? Also, 800x600 mode does not work. Criminy. I know there > are no video drivers for Win95 on IBM's site. > > I'd be grateful if some kind soul would nudge me along on this. > > Chris Schumann -- ----------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob.bell@csc.com ----------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 08:51:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA21437 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:51:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16179; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:49:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14157; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:48:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13795; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA45544; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:31:12 -0400 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms05.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.197]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA65068; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:44:19 -0400 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU032 id 5040500021640013; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:46:12 -0400 From: Christopher Haun To: Cc: Subject: Re: (TP i Series) Thoughts? Message-ID: <5040500021640013000002L032*@MHS> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:46:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: The new i series looks nice, but I haven't seen one yet. I would get the Pent II model though. It should help extend the life cycle of the machine for you. Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 MJCow@email.msn.com on 10/22/98 12:04:45 AM Please respond to MJCow@email.msn.com To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: (TP i Series) Thoughts? Hi all, I am new to the list. I am in the process of replacing my desktop (a Dell Dimension 75) for a ThinkPad i Series. Originally I wanted to buy the TP 600 but I believe the i is a good configuration at a great price. I do not plan to travel a lot with it, so the 2 extra pounds are not a problem. I use Msft Office (Word and Excel) and the Net (stock trading) most of the time, so I don't think I need super fast processing. What do you think, am I going in the right direction? I'm looking forward to enjoy this list and thanks for your help. MJC. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 09:36:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA21789 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:36:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28929; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:33:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26995; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.electricv.com (ns.electricv.com [207.66.81.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26640; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:32:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ray@localhost) by ns.electricv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA08004; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:32:27 -0600 Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:32:27 -0600 (MDT) From: Ray To: MJC cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: (TP i Series) Thoughts? In-Reply-To: <003201bdfd71$8e1ae160$ed862499@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: You will love that computer... good choice if you don't need the extra weight... it will serve you well for the price. Ray On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, MJC wrote: |Hi all, I am new to the list. I am in the process of replacing my desktop (a |Dell Dimension 75) for a ThinkPad i Series. Originally I wanted to buy the |TP 600 but I believe the i is a good configuration at a great price. I do |not plan to travel a lot with it, so the 2 extra pounds are not a problem. I |use Msft Office (Word and Excel) and the Net (stock trading) most of the |time, so I don't think I need super fast processing. | |What do you think, am I going in the right direction? I'm looking forward to |enjoy this list and thanks for your help. | |MJC. | | | From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 10:25:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA22243 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:25:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28640; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:32:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26603; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.electricv.com (ns.electricv.com [207.66.81.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26189; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ray@localhost) by ns.electricv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA07990; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:30:57 -0600 Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:30:57 -0600 (MDT) From: Ray To: turgut kalfaoglu cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: [TPALL] right glue for broken hinge? In-Reply-To: <199810220634.JAA02863@home.egenet.com.tr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: We manage because we know there are fewer cracked hinges, cracked displays and cracked cases than other laptops... we manage by knowing that Thinkpads are more hardy and rugged than other makes... we manage by learning from each other on this list what to expect and how to handle problems... laptop is a latin word meaning, "...something that will break or cause trouble eventually..." But most of us do not have failures. Most Thinkpad owners have very good luck... and for the most part... a failure in one machine is corrected before it becomes common to all machines... IBM must read this list... Ray On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, turgut kalfaoglu wrote: |-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- | |Just out of curiosity; I am impressed with the failures people have; just exactly how do you use |your machine? 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Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 List-Unsubscribe: I just installed an internal Iomega ZIP-100 in my 770. However, when I suspend (fn+f4) or recover from suspend, each operation takes up to 3 minutes and seems like Windows has locked up -- but it hasn't. Other than being veeeery slow to suspend, it works great. Anyone else having this same experience? Is it a problem or just slow? TIA... John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 12:48:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA24237 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13038; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:45:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12803; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:45:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12787; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:45:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p03.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.66]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA13037; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810221646.JAA13037@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Patrick West" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 09:43:33 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: IBM TP 2.1GB HD List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:20:12 -0700 (PDT), Patrick West wrote: > >Folks, > > >I saw this for sale and wonder how I could tell if it would work in my >Tpad 360cse? > > >>IBM TP 2.1GB HD > >>IBM TinkPad Hard Drive in a mounting KIT for TP 380/385 Minus the mounting kit, it should work. Be sure to upgrade to the latest BIOS for your TP360, though. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 12:48:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA24242 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:48:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13094; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:47:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:47:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12941; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:46:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12908; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:46:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p03.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.66]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA13200; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810221647.JAA13200@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Christopher Haun" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 09:44:49 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ThinkPad 600 & OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: >Has anyone had these problems? Does anyone else even use OS/2 anymore? :-) Yup. I have OS/2 on my 2 servers, including this one, my ThinkPad 701, and on my new 701 when I get it and on my TP750 when I get a new HD. Sure, IBM support is bad for OS/2, but I ain't switching yet. My 2 cents. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 13:37:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA25000 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:37:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16175; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:37:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:32:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15890; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:32:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15876; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:32:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA09281; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:32:12 -1000 Message-ID: <001a01bdfde1$ee3a29a0$bf1a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "turgut kalfaoglu" , Subject: Re: [TPALL] right glue for broken hinge? Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:32:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >your machine? On this list, I have seen cracked hinges, cracked displays, cracked cases! >How do you manage it? :) If you mean, how do we manage to use the machines, for the most part these don't affect use at all. In the case of my recent break, it is the piece of the display side of the case that hangs over the right hinge - on the 560, there is no hinge pin on the outer edge, so this bit of plastic serves no structural purpose. If you mean, how do we manage to break them, in my case this is a total mystery. At 8 PM last night I was happily typing away in nearby cafe with an intact machine. I shut down, put the machine in its case, walked home, and when I took the machine out of the case the piece was already broken off. All I can figure is that it has been cracked for a while, maybe from rough handling, so that the slight stress of being carried on a walk was enough to break it off the rest of the way. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 13:48:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA25166 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17023; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:46:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16869; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:46:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16856; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA09439; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:46:21 -1000 Message-ID: <003b01bdfde3$e80fe040$bf1a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "turgut kalfaoglu" , Subject: Re: TP600/Win98: Country! Modem! Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:46:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >"Cannot find the modem settings for your country" > >regardless of which country I pick. Won't dial anywhere. Is this the IBM International Modem? If so, you might go to the TDK web site and see whether they say anything about it, since they actually manufacture the thing and also sell it under their own name (though the software is a bit different). When I first got my modem even in W95 OSR2 the software included on disk didn't work - make sure you not only download and install the updated country list, but in fact download and (re)install the whole driver suite - this might require expunging the modem from the W95/98 driver data base first. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 13:54:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA25257 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:54:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17599; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:53:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:52:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17404; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:52:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17390; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:52:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA09464; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:52:05 -1000 Message-ID: <004301bdfde4$bf730940$bf1a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Ray" Cc: Subject: Re: [TPALL] right glue for broken hinge? Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:52:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >problems... laptop is a latin word meaning, "...something that will break >or cause trouble eventually..." It doesn't help that the composite plastic they use for the case, while very strong, is subject to shear failure and nearly impossible to glue. I'm hopeful that a normal ABS adhesive (either a solvent cement, or airplane model glue) will do the trick, but the more sophisticated the composite recipe, the harder gluing will be. It is worth noting that the 560 by its very nature is IBM's least structurally sound laptop, and mine has been very mobile of late. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 13:56:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA25304 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17872; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:56:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:55:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17746; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:55:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17721; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA09472; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:54:50 -1000 Message-ID: <005201bdfde5$19c4ade0$bf1a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: , Subject: Re: 770 + Internal Iomega ZIP (Slow Suspend)? Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:54:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >I just installed an internal Iomega ZIP-100 in my 770. >However, when I suspend (fn+f4) or recover from suspend, >each operation takes up to 3 minutes and seems like Windows >has locked up -- but it hasn't. Other than being veeeery slow to >suspend, it works great. This might be the same 'phantom disk drive' problem which was recently discussed on this list w/r to access of an absent floppy drive. I would try the same procedures as were suggested there. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 14:08:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA25488 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:08:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18748; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:07:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:06:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18609; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:06:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18590; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:06:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from JES770@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id CDYUa04133 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:05:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:05:17 EDT To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: 770 + Internal Iomega ZIP (Slow Suspend)? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 10/22/98 1:54:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ross@math.hawaii.edu writes: > >I just installed an internal Iomega ZIP-100 in my 770. > >However, when I suspend (fn+f4) or recover from suspend, > >each operation takes up to 3 minutes and seems like Windows > >has locked up -- but it hasn't. Other than being veeeery slow to > >suspend, it works great. > > > This might be the same 'phantom disk drive' problem which was recently > discussed on this list w/r to access of an absent floppy drive. I would > try the same procedures as were suggested there. Thanks David, I also noticed that the MultiBay Utility doesn't recognize the ZIP. It's shown as if the CD is still installed. However, it functions perfectly -- even the Iomega Tools (right-click selections) all work OK. BTW, I had upgraded to the latest BIOS and drivers for my 770. Regards... John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 15:19:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA26697 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:19:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24343; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:15:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24117; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:15:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sh1.ro.com (sh1.ro.com [205.216.92.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24104; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jeffj@localhost) by sh1.ro.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA25444 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:15:33 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:15:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeff Jackowski To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 600 & OS/2 In-Reply-To: <199810221647.JAA13200@stevie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > >Has anyone had these problems? Does anyone else even use OS/2 anymore? :-) > > Yup. I have OS/2 on my 2 servers, including this one, my ThinkPad 701, > and on my new 701 when I get it and on my TP750 when I get a new HD. > Sure, IBM support is bad for OS/2, but I ain't switching yet. IBM's support for OS/2 on Think Pads is a lot better than other notebook computer manufacturers' on thier notebook computers. I run OS/2 v4 exclusively on my 765D, and I can still watch and record video. I have no plans to buy a real television, and have no clue why I keep seeing those WebTV ads -- they don't even come with a display! :-) Jeff Jackowski Unhappily running NT at work -- the only OS that can't do an alphabetical sort! (I tried on the desktop . . . ) http://ro.com/~jeff/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 15:44:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA27042 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:44:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26410; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:43:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:40:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26150; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:40:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26062; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:38:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from diebold (user-38lde1n.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.184.55]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA04009 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981022154055.007deea0@mindspring.com> X-Sender: jdiebold@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:40:55 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Jean-Pierre Diebold Subject: [TP770ED]: Internal Iomega Zip Drive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I just installed an internal Iomega ZIP drive on my 770ED. The manual says that it is not hot-swappable....Is this correct? I though it WAS hot-swappable. Also, when I insert the drive in the Ultrabay, the taskbar bar icon lists it as a CDROM drive. Can it be changed to ZIP? The Ultrabay properties DOES list the ZIP drive as part of available devices. Thank you Jean-Pierre From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 16:34:31 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA27690 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:34:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29950; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:33:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:31:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29819; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:31:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (mailbox.adm.binghamton.edu [128.226.10.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29775; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:31:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from user (bing22.net107.binghamton.edu [128.226.107.22]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA18580; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:28:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810222028.QAA18580@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-travaganza: http://free-music.com/ken Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:35:59 -0400 To: Ray , turgut kalfaoglu From: Ken Subject: [TPALL] So many problems with the laptop Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" In-Reply-To: References: <199810220634.JAA02863@home.egenet.com.tr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Ray wrote: >But most of us do not have failures. Most Thinkpad owners have very good >luck... and for the most part... a failure in one machine is corrected >before it becomes common to all machines... IBM must read this list... >On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, turgut kalfaoglu wrote: >|Just out of curiosity; I am impressed with the failures people have; just exactly how do you use >|your machine? On this list, I have seen cracked hinges, cracked displays, cracked cases! I have had incessant problems with my TP 770ED, and Windows 95 OSR2. Although I've pretty much blamed Windows every time, nonetheless it IS the OS the machine shipped with, and it's pretty frustrating just how many problems I've had. Still unresolved: - Haven't gotten the IR ports to work; - Can't get original MPEG decoder to work (and therefore presumably can't play DVD's); - Experience blue screen crash of "VPIC" usually when I close the display (suspend when closed is disabled) when the screen has already turned off >from idle state, and then after recovering from that a) I cannot hibernate, and b) when next I restart the machine, Windows will start up in 640x480 mode instead of 1024x768 mode; - Built-in modem dial-tone detection doesn't work (had to put a messy fix into the registry, which slows the dialing process down); - Built-in modem speaker won't turn off using normal Windows setttings (had to add "M0" to initialization string, which is annoying because I'll have to go there and remove it to turn the speaker back on). Also, does anyone know why the machine has to do so much work (hard drive access, other applications slowed down) every time I open and close the display? (Again, I have the "suspend when closed" option off.) I'd be having a lot more troubles if it weren't for the helpful people on this list, which I think speaks even worse for IBM. And, here I still am with problems the list hasn't helped me with, either. Scared to try Linux, for the lack of full hardware support available there. Are these experiences typical? Do owners of non-IBM laptops have more or fewer problems? Ken - kenzo@free-music.com - - http://free-music.com/ken/resume From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 16:36:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA27735 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00431; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:36:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:35:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00290; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:35:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00206; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:34:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p41.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.104]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA09070; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810222035.NAA09070@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "David Ross" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "turgut kalfaoglu" Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 13:32:42 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TPALL] right glue for broken hinge? List-Unsubscribe: >If you mean, how do we manage to break them, in my case this is a total mystery. At 8 PM last night I was happily typing away in >nearby cafe with >an intact machine. I shut down, put the machine in its case, walked home, >and when I took the machine out of the case the piece was already broken >off. All I can figure is that it has been cracked for a while, maybe from rough handling, so that the slight stress of being >carried on a walk was enough to >break it off the rest of the way. > That's happened with memory doors, etc. Don't forget (unfortunately) Murphy's Law - "Anything that CAN go wrong, WILL go wrong." -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 16:41:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA27832 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00943; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:40:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:39:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00781; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00652; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:38:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p41.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.104]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA09350; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:37:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810222037.NAA09350@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Ray" , "turgut kalfaoglu" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 13:34:24 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TPALL] right glue for broken hinge? List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:30:57 -0600 (MDT), Ray wrote: >We manage because we know there are fewer cracked hinges, cracked displays >and cracked cases than other laptops... we manage by knowing that >Thinkpads are more hardy and rugged than other makes... we manage by >learning from each other on this list what to expect and how to handle >problems... laptop is a latin word meaning, "...something that will break >or cause trouble eventually..." > And because ThinkPads are compatible with other non-mainstream OSes such as OS/2 Warp, Linux FreeBSD, Solaris, etc., and so many other companies, especially Compaq, are constantly getting more and more proprietary... >But most of us do not have failures. Most Thinkpad owners have very good >luck... and for the most part... a failure in one machine is corrected >before it becomes common to all machines... IBM must read this list... I sure hope so, because I'm about to send in my 701 for Easyserve. :( -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 17:36:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA28638 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:36:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04390; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:36:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:34:50 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04203; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:34:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.1) id RAA10793 for dist-thinkpad; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:34:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29906; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:32:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p41.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.104]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA08832 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810222033.NAA08832@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 13:30:29 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP701: WIN98 List-Unsubscribe: I'm just curious, can you permanately disable Windows 98's messages about finding new hardware permanately? I got another 701 today, so I can send my old one to Easyserve. The 540MB (that sounds like it might be failing) had Win98 on it, but I don't have the CD-ROM it wanted when I had it connected to my Dock II. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 18:04:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA28977 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:04:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06007; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:03:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:02:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05901; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:02:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cutaway.com (www.cutaway.com [209.192.141.162]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05888; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cutaway.com (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cutaway.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA06657; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:02:39 -0400 Sender: root@cutaway.com Message-ID: <362FAB7D.77B8E291@cutaway.com> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:02:37 -0400 From: Michael Rowan Reply-To: mtr@cutaway.com Organization: Castlerock Consulting Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken CC: Ray , turgut kalfaoglu , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: [TPALL] So many problems with the laptop References: <199810220634.JAA02863@home.egenet.com.tr> <199810222028.QAA18580@mail.binghamton.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ken wrote: > > > - Can't get original MPEG decoder to work (and therefore presumably can't > play DVD's); I too have a 770ED. The thing came with the softdvd stuff installed pointing to the wrong device (D: instead of what it actually was -- e:) that took me a while to figure out since it doesn't seem to let you change it from any configuration screen. > and b) when next I restart the machine, Windows will start up in 640x480 > mode instead of 1024x768 mode; Not mine. Although I stopped using w95, it worked fine for the first week I had it ;-) > > Scared to try Linux, for the lack of full hardware support available there. > I run linux pretty much exclusively on my laptop (with the E window manager -- WAY COOL) and that at the full resolution. Works great for me. I had to buy a sound driver for it (about 50 bucks I think) but other than that it was cool. If you want details on the setup let me know. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 18:05:48 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA29005 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:05:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06266; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:04:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06097; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:04:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06052; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:04:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hp-customer ([12.70.19.104]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981022220340.LDSP12241@hp-customer> for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:03:40 +0000 Message-ID: <004901bdfe17$b59e5f40$6813460c@hp-customer> From: "Wayne Jones" To: Subject: 755cd Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:57:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01BDFDDD.0491B6A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BDFDDD.0491B6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Loaded win95 on the 755cd and functions great. 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------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BDFDDD.0491B6A0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 19:03:51 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA29933 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:03:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08723; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:02:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08544; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:02:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from glacier.binc.net (glacier.binc.net [205.173.176.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08529; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:02:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rkarp (msn-1-71.x2.binc.net [198.70.31.71]) by glacier.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA20337; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:00:47 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01bdfe0f$cd228cc0$471f46c6@rkarp> From: "Robert J. Karp" To: "Ray" , "turgut kalfaoglu" , "Ken" Cc: Subject: Re: [TPALL] So many problems with the laptop Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:00:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I wish I could sit with you and observe your troubles. My OSR2 installation on my 770E was the most rock solid installation I've ever had (but I installed clean) ... not even the slightest of troubles (same box as yours sans internal modem as I had the MPEG card and DVD installed)). I tried to assist you with your IR problem by sharing with you what worked for me but, again, it's difficult to do not being there to see in real-time. About the only thing I can suggest to you is to re-format and install clean. Severe, I know, but it isn't an inherent problem with Win95 and it isn't a hardware design issue since, again, my OSR2 installation was rock stable (I wish Win98 were so). -----Original Message----- From: Ken To: Ray ; turgut kalfaoglu Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thursday, October 22, 1998 3:34 PM Subject: [TPALL] So many problems with the laptop >Ray wrote: >>But most of us do not have failures. Most Thinkpad owners have very good >>luck... and for the most part... a failure in one machine is corrected >>before it becomes common to all machines... IBM must read this list... > >>On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, turgut kalfaoglu wrote: >>|Just out of curiosity; I am impressed with the failures people have; just >exactly how do you use >>|your machine? On this list, I have seen cracked hinges, cracked displays, >cracked cases! > >I have had incessant problems with my TP 770ED, and Windows 95 OSR2. >Although I've pretty much blamed Windows every time, nonetheless it IS the >OS the machine shipped with, and it's pretty frustrating just how many >problems I've had. Still unresolved: >- Haven't gotten the IR ports to work; >- Can't get original MPEG decoder to work (and therefore presumably can't >play DVD's); >- Experience blue screen crash of "VPIC" usually when I close the display >(suspend when closed is disabled) when the screen has already turned off >from idle state, and then after recovering from that a) I cannot hibernate, >and b) when next I restart the machine, Windows will start up in 640x480 >mode instead of 1024x768 mode; >- Built-in modem dial-tone detection doesn't work (had to put a messy fix >into the registry, which slows the dialing process down); >- Built-in modem speaker won't turn off using normal Windows setttings (had >to add "M0" to initialization string, which is annoying because I'll have >to go there and remove it to turn the speaker back on). > >Also, does anyone know why the machine has to do so much work (hard drive >access, other applications slowed down) every time I open and close the >display? (Again, I have the "suspend when closed" option off.) > >I'd be having a lot more troubles if it weren't for the helpful people on >this list, which I think speaks even worse for IBM. And, here I still am >with problems the list hasn't helped me with, either. > >Scared to try Linux, for the lack of full hardware support available there. > >Are these experiences typical? Do owners of non-IBM laptops have more or >fewer problems? > >Ken >- kenzo@free-music.com >- - http://free-music.com/ken/resume > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 19:14:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA00204 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:14:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09287; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:14:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:14:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09178; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:14:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09165; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:14:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p41.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.104]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA03133 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810222314.QAA03133@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 16:11:58 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ThinkPad i series List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone here considered the new i series? Sounds interesting, and I didn't even know about it. Is it going to be in stores? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 19:18:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA00246 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09651; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:17:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:17:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09553; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:17:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09533; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:17:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p41.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.104]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA03750; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810222318.QAA03750@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "All" , "David Ross" Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 16:15:40 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TPALL] right glue for broken hinge? List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:20:14 -0500, David Ross wrote: >Well, my 560 just suffered the dread 'broken plastic at the hinge' problem >which seems to affect so many ThinkPads. > >Has anyone yet figured out the right glue to use here? My guess is >ABS plastic adhesive, but if anyone has found the 'perfect' glue I'd >like to hear about it. (BTW, I have a remarkable glue selection at home, >the result of owning an Italian car for which replacement parts need to be >rebuilt since replacements are hard to find, but right now 'home' is 4000 >miles away:-( > >BTW, I'm working under the assumption that IBM doesn't fix this sort of thing >under warrantee... Unless you haggle and hassle with them. As I noted earlier, I'm sending in my 701 to Easyserve, and I'm almost positive that despite what the "joe-average PC user" technicians say about it being covered, I bet I will be billed a lot like last time, which included a hinge problem. Last time, they wanted $3200, but IBM picked up the tab. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 20:26:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA00907 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:26:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12631; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:25:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:24:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12513; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:24:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from red5.cac.washington.edu (red5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.55.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12500; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (dittrich@localhost) by red5.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA17961 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:24:36 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:24:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Dittrich To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: XF86Config for 760EL w/Cyber9320 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I, too, have been having great trouble getting XFree86 to configure properly on my 760EL. The symptoms are that I can get 640x480 mode to display, but the screen is over-driven (the image extends out past the edges of the visible screen, making it impossible to get to the task bar, etc.) I have managed, with the config files posted on the laptop page, to get it to go into 800x600 mode, but the image has about 1" of black on all sides, which makes it REALLLLY hard to read with granny glasses. Externally, I can drive a multisync monitor at 800x600 (I can't recall if I had 1024x768 working). I tried running "xvidtune" and it would let me make changes, but when test was selected, no visible changes to the screen took effect. Here is what "X -probeonly" returns: XFree86 Version 3.3.2.3 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300) Release Date: July 15 1998 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: Linux 2.0.34 i686 [ELF] Configured drivers: SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0): NV1, STG2000, RIVA128, ET4000, ET4000W32, ET4000W32i, ET4000W32i_rev_b, ET4000W32i_rev_c, ET4000W32p, ET4000W32p_rev_a, ET4000W32p_rev_b, ET4000W32p_rev_c, ET4000W32p_rev_d, ET6000, ET6100, et3000, pvga1, wd90c00, wd90c10, wd90c30, wd90c24, wd90c31, wd90c33, gvga, ati, sis86c201, sis86c202, sis86c205, tvga8200lx, tvga8800cs, tvga8900b, tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga8900d, tvga9000, tvga9000i, tvga9100b, tvga9200cxr, tgui9400cxi, tgui9420, tgui9420dgi, tgui9430dgi, tgui9440agi, cyber9320, tgui9660, tgui9680, tgui9682, tgui9685, cyber9382, cyber9385, cyber9388, cyber9397, cyber9520, 3dimage975, 3dimage985, clgd5420, clgd5422, clgd5424, clgd5426, clgd5428, clgd5429, clgd5430, clgd5434, clgd5436, clgd5446, clgd5480, clgd5462, clgd5464, clgd5465, clgd6205, clgd6215, clgd6225, clgd6235, clgd7541, clgd7542, clgd7543, clgd7548, clgd7555, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e, cpq_avga, mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w, mga2164w AGP, oti067, oti077, oti087, oti037c, al2101, ali2228, ali2301, ali2302, ali2308, ali2401, cl6410, cl6412, cl6420, cl6440, video7, ark1000vl, ark1000pv, ark2000pv, ark2000mt, mx, realtek, AP6422, AT24, AT3D, s3_virge, s3_svga, ct65520, ct65525, ct65530, ct65535, ct65540, ct65545, ct65546, ct65548, ct65550, ct65554, ct65555, ct68554, ct64200, ct64300, generic (using VT number 7) XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (**) XKB: disabled (**) XKB: keymap: "xfree86(us)" (overrides other XKB settings) (**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/mouse, buttons: 3 (**) Mouse: 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms) (**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: "tgui9320" (**) SVGA: Monitor ID: "Thinkpad" (--) SVGA: Mode "640x400" needs vert refresh rate of 69.93 Hz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 35.52 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "640x400" needs hsync freq of 37.86 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 36.46 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 37.50 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 37.88 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "640x400" needs hsync freq of 43.27 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 43.92 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 48.36 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 53.01 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 53.51 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 55.84 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 56.48 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 51.02 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 64.02 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 62.50 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 62.42 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 64.25 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 70.24 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 70.88 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 74.59 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 75.00 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 76.01 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 80.21 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 87.50 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 89.62 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 91.15 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 93.75 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 105.77 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 107.16 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 96.15 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 104.52 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "512x384" needs vert refresh rate of 77.97 Hz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "512x384" needs vert refresh rate of 85.09 Hz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "320x200" needs vert refresh rate of 69.93 Hz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "320x240" needs hsync freq of 39.38 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 37.88 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 37.80 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 39.56 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 48.00 kHz. Deleted. (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" (--) SVGA: PCI: Trident Cyber 9320 rev 227, Memory @ 0x08000000, 0x08200000 (--) Trident chipset version: 0xa3 (Cyber9320) (--) SVGA: Detected an DSTN 800x600 Display (--) SVGA: Revision 3. (--) SVGA: Using Trident programmable clocks (--) SVGA: chipset: cyber9320 (--) SVGA: videoram: 1024k (**) SVGA: Using 8 bpp, Depth 8, Color weight: 666 (--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 90.000 MHz (**) SVGA: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 25.175 (--) SVGA: There is no mode definition named "800x600" (--) SVGA: Removing mode "800x600" from list of valid modes. (--) SVGA: There is no mode definition named "1024x768" (--) SVGA: Removing mode "1024x768" from list of valid modes. (--) SVGA: There is no mode definition named "1280x1024" (--) SVGA: Removing mode "1280x1024" from list of valid modes. (--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 640x480 (--) SVGA: Generic SpeedUps selected (Flags=0x30) (--) SVGA: Using Linear Frame Buffer at 0x08000000, Size 1MB (--) SVGA: Using Graphics Engine. (--) SVGA: Using 1024 byte display width. Thoughts? Hints? -- Dave Dittrich Client Services dittrich@cac.washington.edu Computing & Communications University of Washington Dave Dittrich / dittrich@cac.washington.edu [PGP Key] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 20:54:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA01362 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:54:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14012; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:54:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:53:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13904; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:53:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13881; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 94.chicago-13-14rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.153.94]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981023005229.PFXI12241@94.chicago-13-14rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:52:29 +0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: ThinkPad i series Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:52:18 GMT Message-ID: <3630d2b9.11787731@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <199810222314.QAA03133@stevie.loop.com> In-Reply-To: <199810222314.QAA03133@stevie.loop.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 22 Oct 98 16:11:58 -0800, you wrote: |Has anyone here considered the new i series? Sounds interesting, and I = didn't |even know about it. Is it going to be in stores? Looks like it. There was a feature article on IBM i series in today's New York Times, in the new "Circuits" section. You should be able to see the article online at www.nytimes.com/circuits. epbrown (*still* constantly reaching for a trackpoint that isn't there on his Sony 505!) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 22:16:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA02538 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:16:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16840; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:15:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:14:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16737; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:14:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16725; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from diebold (user-38lde5c.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.184.172]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA16553 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:14:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981022221615.007c8590@mindspring.com> X-Sender: jdiebold@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:16:15 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Jean-Pierre Diebold Subject: [TP770ED]: New ACP Modem Driver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: The new ACP Modem Driver for the 770ED is supposed to give you faster connections. However, since installing it I haven't been able to connect above 32000... Has anyone had this problem? I should be able to connect above 50000 with x2. Thanks From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 22:25:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA02653 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:25:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17295; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:24:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:24:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17212; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:24:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (mailbox.adm.binghamton.edu [128.226.10.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17200; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:24:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp.binghamton.edu ([128.226.136.137]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA10311; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:23:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810230223.WAA10311@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-travaganza: http://free-music.com/ken Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:23:29 -0400 To: Jean-Pierre Diebold , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Ken Subject: Re: [TP770ED]: New ACP Modem Driver In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981022221615.007c8590@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: >The new ACP Modem Driver for the 770ED is supposed to give you faster >connections. >However, since installing it I haven't been able to connect above 32000... >Has anyone had this problem? I should be able to connect above 50000 with x2. Did you download the updated driver from IBM's driver matrix page? I did, and I have connected at 48000 bps. Ken - kenzo@free-music.com - - http://free-music.com/ken/resume From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 22 22:52:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA02919 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:52:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18545; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:52:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:50:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18391; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:50:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.az.com (lucy.az.com [204.201.18.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18378; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:50:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp17-sally.atlantica.net (ppp17-sally.atlantica.net [206.63.195.81]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA08666 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:50:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <199810230250.TAA08666@www.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 20:01:28 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TPALL] right glue for broken hinge? List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:32:21 -0500, David Ross wrote: >>your machine? On this list, I have seen cracked hinges, cracked displays, cracked cases! >>How do you manage it? :) > > >If you mean, how do we manage to use the machines, for the most part these don't affect use at all. In the case of my recent break, >it is the piece of the display side of the case that hangs over the right hinge - on the 560, >there is no hinge pin on the outer edge, so this bit of plastic serves >no structural purpose. If I may add my $0.02 worth in, My Thinkpad 365XD has a broken spring on the left hand latch. This is not due to abuse but just by the way the darn thing opens. I can't use suspend any more and have to use hibernate. Still... it's not a matter of abuse but sometimes wear and tear. (If anyone has the P/N for those things.... ;> ) So far I have been quite pleased with my Thinkpad. It has allowed me to carry more schoolwork and stuff in the same amount of time compared to when I didn't have it. Plus with it's OS/2 and Windoze support, I have found it to be a good choice. Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 00:25:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA03694 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:25:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21444; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:24:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:23:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21260; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:23:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from didim.cypronet.net (merkez.cypronet.net [193.192.125.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21227; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([193.192.124.3]) by didim.cypronet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA08246 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 08:28:06 +0300 Message-Id: <199810230528.IAA08246@didim.cypronet.net> From: "Thom Parkhill" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:02:12 +0300 (EDT) Reply-To: "Thom Parkhill" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: tp380d: slow boot no more! List-Unsubscribe: Finally! Some good news. If you have a 380D, then you have probably been experiencing sloooow OS/2 Warp 4 boots. Disabling the bus mastering had no effect. A check of the device drivers as they loaded showed the problem to be IBM1S506.ADD. Having tried so many other fixes (fixpack 7 for example), I was skeptical when I read this on Warpcast: New files on the OS/2 DDPAK: [snip] - new IDEDASD package featuring IBM1S506.ADD build 10.012 as of 13-oct-98. ---> IDEDASD.EXE [snip] All those files available from: ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak Well, it works! Read the readme to make sure you have the syslevels it wants, and then go for it. Wow! Regular OS/2 boots! What a difference something so simple makes. Thom. Thom Parkhill Department of Religious Studies St. Thomas Unversity Fredericton, N.B. Canada until July, 1999: parkhill@cypronet.net after July, 1999: parkhill@stthomasu.ca From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 01:28:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA04247 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 01:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23040; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 01:28:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 01:26:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22942; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 01:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22930; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 01:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p42.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.105]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA22719 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810230528.WAA22719@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 22:25:22 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TPALL: NT vs. 95? List-Unsubscribe: I was thinking of setting aside one of my 701's for my dad or my brother to access the internet off the LAN, and was wondering whether Windows 95 or Windows NT would be better. I need file, (possibly print), and TCP/IP access to my network. I had bad luck with Windows 95 connecting via TCP/IP to my network, but NT worked fine, albeit slow. The target HD would be a 540MB that came to me with Windows 98 preloaded (the slowest version of DOS/Windows I've EVER seen!). The machine has 24MB, and I will probably have it docked most of the time. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 01:29:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA04264 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 01:29:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23222; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 01:29:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 01:28:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23083; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 01:28:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23070; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 01:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p42.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.105]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA22916 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810230530.WAA22916@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 22:27:26 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TPALL] So many problems with the laptop List-Unsubscribe: >I run linux pretty much exclusively on my laptop (with the E >window manager -- WAY COOL) and that at the full >resolution. Works great for me. I had to buy a sound >driver for it (about 50 bucks I think) but other than that >it was cool. If you want details on the setup let me know. > Speaking of Linux, has anyone got X Windows to work on a ThinkPad 355x, 360x, 750x, or 755x (since I think they all use the same video chipset, the WD 90C24)? I can't run X for some reason, even after configuring it on numerous occasions. I'm using Slackware 3.2 I think, Linux 2.0.29. I use this for my C programming class, and basically need it just for gcc, but would rather use X. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 02:22:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA04783 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:22:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24750; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:20:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24649; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:20:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24630; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:20:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p42.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.105]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA28070; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810230622.XAA28070@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" , "Vernon Wankerl" Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 23:19:22 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: H45 Quick Drive List-Unsubscribe: >I haven't done any quantitative comparisons when it comes to speed, but my main purpose for it was to have access to large amounts of disk space, make use of the spare dirves I have after upgrading the TP with a larger HD, and save money by not going to SCSI drives or other PCMCIA solutions. (the H45 devices are less than $100 retail) I wouldn't want to use it as my primary drive but it is very adequate for data storage and perhaps archival types of storage. I suppose if you can compare a SCSI CDROM to a parallel CDROM you might have some idea about the speed difference. I don't know because I haven't tried it. I have a SCSI HD here, but don't use it as much as I used to, because of reliability problems (it came out of my HS's server, but they were throwing it out. It was on 24/7). Comparing it to a computer connected via INTERSVR.EXE through parallel shows a BIG difference. Even bigger comparing parallel to serial. Just be thankful that they don't have serial based H45 devices. It'd be a waste of $100. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 02:25:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA04829 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:25:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25027; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:25:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:24:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24905; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [208.197.151.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24892; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA24170 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:24:38 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:24:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: [TPALL] So many problems with the laptop In-Reply-To: <199810230530.WAA22916@stevie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > Speaking of Linux, has anyone got X Windows to work on a > ThinkPad 355x, 360x, 750x, or 755x (since I think they all > use the same video chipset, the WD 90C24)? > > I can't run X for some reason, even after configuring it > on numerous occasions. I'm using Slackware 3.2 I think, > Linux 2.0.29. ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/unmaintained/mini/X-Notebook http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 03:46:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA05481 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:46:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28437; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:45:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28285; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:45:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28269; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:45:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (133.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.133]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA06525; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:45:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3630342F.E792A692@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:45:51 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MJC CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: (TP i Series) Thoughts? References: <003201bdfd71$8e1ae160$ed862499@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The new "I" series sounds like a nice machine, but it has only a one year warranty.. !! get the extended warranty if you buy one.. MJC wrote: > > Hi all, I am new to the list. I am in the process of replacing my desktop (a > Dell Dimension 75) for a ThinkPad i Series. Originally I wanted to buy the > TP 600 but I believe the i is a good configuration at a great price. I do > not plan to travel a lot with it, so the 2 extra pounds are not a problem. I > use Msft Office (Word and Excel) and the Net (stock trading) most of the > time, so I don't think I need super fast processing. > > What do you think, am I going in the right direction? I'm looking forward to > enjoy this list and thanks for your help. > > MJC. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 03:47:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA05498 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:47:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28410; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:44:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28213; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:44:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28201; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:44:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (133.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.133]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id DAA06406; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:44:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <363033F2.2C3A0575@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:44:50 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vincent Poy CC: Patrick West , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IBM TP 2.1GB HD References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: the 2.1gig HDD should work in a 365, no problem, as long as it is the 12.5mm HDD.. a 380 series will take a 17mm HDD.. you will need a bracket for the 380 series machine to add a HDD.. Vincent Poy wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Patrick West wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I have a 385ED and I'm trying to figure out how to open the case > to expose the internal parts like the hard drive and does it have a > cooling fan inside the case? Thanks. > > Cheers, > Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] > GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] > Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > I saw this for sale and wonder how I could tell if it would work in my > > Tpad 360cse? > > > > > > >IBM TP 2.1GB HD > > > > >IBM TinkPad Hard Drive in a mounting KIT for TP 380/385 > > > > > > Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp > > PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D > > Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 05:03:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA06028 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:03:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA01268; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:03:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:02:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA01175; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:02:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA01163; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA07663; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:02:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:02:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Vincent Poy To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" cc: Patrick West , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IBM TP 2.1GB HD In-Reply-To: <363033F2.2C3A0575@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: Thanks for the info but how does one open the case of the 380 since I took off all screws and still can't open it... > the 2.1gig HDD should work in a 365, no problem, as long as it is the > 12.5mm HDD.. > a 380 series will take a 17mm HDD.. > you will need a bracket for the 380 series machine to add a HDD.. > > > Vincent Poy wrote: > > > > On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Patrick West wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I have a 385ED and I'm trying to figure out how to open the case > > to expose the internal parts like the hard drive and does it have a > > cooling fan inside the case? Thanks. > > > > Cheers, > > Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ > > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] > > GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] > > Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] > > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > > I saw this for sale and wonder how I could tell if it would work in my > > > Tpad 360cse? > > > > > > > > > >IBM TP 2.1GB HD > > > > > > >IBM TinkPad Hard Drive in a mounting KIT for TP 380/385 > > > > > > > > > Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp > > > PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D > > > Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Happy Trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net > 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), > 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), > 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), > 755CE(no gig, 40meg), > 750C(no gig, 4meg), > IBM WorkPad(1meg) > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > vary, Done on a > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 05:30:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA06181 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:30:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08747; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:30:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:29:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08650; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from meryl.csd.uu.se (root@meryl.csd.uu.se [130.238.12.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08600; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:28:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from student.csd.UU.SE (d97krg@Dront.DoCS.UU.SE [130.238.9.108]) by meryl.csd.uu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29735; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:27:56 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: d97krg@csd.uu.se Message-ID: <36304C1B.A4D56382@student.csd.UU.SE> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:27:55 +0200 From: KRISTIAN GROSSMAN-MADSEN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [Fwd: [TPALL] So many problems with the laptop] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------3BE043B0F5A5CD9FE6651C50" List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3BE043B0F5A5CD9FE6651C50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I suppose this should have gone to the list as well. Sorry folks. --------------3BE043B0F5A5CD9FE6651C50 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <36304BB8.7029A0A5@student.csd.UU.SE> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:26:16 +0200 From: KRISTIAN GROSSMAN-MADSEN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury Subject: Re: [TPALL] So many problems with the laptop References: <199810230530.WAA22916@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul Khoury wrote: > > Speaking of Linux, has anyone got X Windows to work on a ThinkPad 355x, 360x, 750x, or 755x (since > I think they all use the same video chipset, the WD 90C24)? > I had a working installation some time ago. The trick was to hook the 360c up to an external monitor before runnig the -probeonly thingy (xf86config, perhaps). > I can't run X for some reason, even after configuring it on numerous occasions. > I'm using Slackware 3.2 I think, Linux 2.0.29. > Use Redhat instead :) > I use this for my C programming class, and basically need it just for gcc, but would rather > use X. > Why, X in 640x480 is quite small. With the multiple consoles developing in bash is also quite feasible. Anyhow, I think there are more on this subject available at http://www.wwsi.com/linux-tp.html Good luck! > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kristian Grossmann Madsen | Any sufficiently arcane magic is mailto://d97krg@csd.uu.se | indistinguishable from technology. gsm://0707-79 33 46 | -- P. David Lebling, Trinity --------------3BE043B0F5A5CD9FE6651C50-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 05:51:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA06284 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:51:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA09224; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:50:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA09129; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:50:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgate.generics.co.uk (mailgate.generics.co.uk [194.216.39.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA09116; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:50:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scigen.co.uk (scigen) by mailgate.generics.co.uk (5.0/PIPEX simple 1.26) id AA13906; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:55:09 +0000 Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk by scigen.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24096; Fri, 23 Oct 98 10:43:50 BST Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:48:16 +0000 To: "ThinkPad List" , "Paul Khoury" Subject: Re[2]: [TPALL] So many problems with the laptop Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Yes I use X under Linux on the 755C, 256 colour mode, it works great=2E=20= Linux is Redhat 5=2E1=2E ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [TPALL] So many problems with the laptop Author: MIME:"Paul Khoury" at INTERNET Date: 23/10/98 06:28 >I run linux pretty much exclusively on my laptop (with the E=20= >window manager -- WAY COOL) and that at the full=20= >resolution=2E Works great for me=2E I had to buy a sound=20= >driver for it (about 50 bucks I think) but other than that=20= >it was cool=2E If you want details on the setup let me know=2E=20= > Speaking of Linux, has anyone got X Windows to work on a ThinkPad 355x, 360x,=20= 750x, or 755x (since I think they all use the same video chipset, the WD 90C24)? I can't run X for some reason, even after configuring it on numerous=20= occasions=2E I'm using Slackware 3=2E2 I think, Linux 2=2E0=2E29=2E I use this for my C programming class, and basically need it just for gcc,=20= but would rather use X=2E -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200=20= http://warped=2Ecswnet=2Ecom/~pkhoury/index=2Ehtml | http://pkhoury=2Edyn=2Eml=2E= org=20= (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7=2E5=2E3, Sun Solaris 2=2E3, Linux 2=2E0=2E29, Ne= wton=20= OS 1=2E05 ICQ#14582895 ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom http://www=2Egenerics=2Eco=2Euk ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 06:44:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA06595 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 06:44:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10505; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 06:44:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 06:43:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10405; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 06:43:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10393; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 06:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amdk6266 ([205.130.18.55]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 1667000 ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 06:54:31 -0400 Message-ID: <003e01bdfe71$e0b28f80$0200000a@amdk6266> From: "Slip" To: "Thinkpad Mailing list" Subject: Upgrade path's for the 701. Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 06:42:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Hey there! I'm thinking of installing Linux on the laptop, so does anyone out there have any small cheap HD's? They must be 12mm(this is the slim, right?), in the range of around 4-500mb, and have the carrier for the 701. Linux doesn't require much space at *all*. In any case, while I'm at it, where can I pick up a 16mb dimm for the 701? I kick myself in the rear all the time because I didn't buy a guy's 16megger that he had for 30buks. (in case you havn't noticed, I'm gonna be swapping HD's) I have 16 now, but I'm sure Win95(on original HD) would do much better with that additional 4meg. I know about Bill's upgrade path for the 701, and that's a great deal, but right now I have too many other expenses. If anyone out there has or can reccomend me to a site, lemme know. I'm also interested in the DockII. Not so much in buying one, but if it's worth it. If I could pick one up for 50buks or so, maybe then. Thanks. -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 09:13:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA07746 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:13:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14638; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:13:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:12:36 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14553; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:12:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.1) id JAA16450 for dist-thinkpad; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27554; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA03141; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:27:48 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199810230627.JAA03141@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "David Ross" Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:26:04 -0100 (TUR) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <003b01bdfde3$e80fe040$bf1a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP600/Win98: Country! Modem! List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:46:27 -0500, David Ross wrote: >>"Cannot find the modem settings for your country" >>regardless of which country I pick. Won't dial anywhere. >Is this the IBM International Modem? If so, you might go to the TDK web >site and see whether they say anything about it, since they actually manufacture the thing and also sell it under their own name >(though >the software is a bit different). I bought the TP600 from USA - actually it was an award for my web search engine from UDUG.org! so it's the US version.. the Win98 I installed here, from the european version.. is that what's screwing it up, I wonder.. it used to work fine under W95.. I should have never upgraded! - -t - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNjBnyzJjYwErN0xZAQGBgwP+KBZqzcMg1mC96MW6Ho3OTnv6bgWdRFn4 cA8ZcOOJFM7nqcJOolV460D0UIGpfMsZCQOZQ6STyJJ4+DwAxBtOeLbXKTR/tltX wC+AxKuKcqmeRD/qQBoHFRPP4i729MzeeWZzNJJ/+BVv3N4XOhSMx9RUzhD/spD1 V71h+fnCSu4= =Ylh1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Windows Error 02D: Erroneous Error; No Error Occurred (Yet) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 09:53:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA08157 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17718; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:53:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:52:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17547; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17460; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA31234; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:49:42 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199810231249.PAA31234@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "shawj01@ibm.net" Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:47:45 -0100 (TUR) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <011801bdfe47$d561ee20$36d648a6@shaw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP600/Win98: Country! Modem! List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 06:41:45 +0100, shawj01@ibm.net wrote: >As a matter of fact, I brought a TP760CD from the US and used it in Istanbul >(we live in Bebek) without trouble. I was using the IBM International PCMCIA >modem rather than the internal Mwave modem, but even with the latter, when I >stuck the 'X3' formula into the dialup code, it worked fine. All the latter Wow, small world! Unfortunately the Mwave software wont even let you dial at all - it complains about 'your country is not found' thing before dialing anything.. it suggests you change it, and gives you the window to change it, but it won't accept any country you pick! - -t - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNjDBQTJjYwErN0xZAQHAngP/bygDqD6TYjgPgRiGqBdTTAaRo5OM2FAn oupnaei+HCEaIdmS6n49P19yByGm24A0KGfIVCJfZ7/H4FWHX8SuQ0jeodVFny71 m0Gfj4lK06TSglGeKR1AMKALnPILFAiRIIo0AkXvr/msj2M/iXElJJa2S+2u20L7 vXivoygGyj4= =PQdm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 09:58:00 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA08224 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18117; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:57:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:56:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18010; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17998; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:56:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from John560e@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id CLUJa02329 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:56:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:56:04 EDT To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: 770 w/ZIP & Suspending Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 List-Unsubscribe: I originally posted concerning a slowdown entering and recovering from suspend when an Iomega ZIP was installed in the UtraBay of my 770. I've noticed that my 770 isn't configured to do a test in Setup for ZIP; though, it will test for the FDD 1, CD & DVD. It may be that my machine was issued prior to the ZIP being an option. So, I'm thinking this may suggest why it's taking the 770 so long to deal with the ZIP being installed prior to suspending. The Iomega ZIP functions perfectly otherwise to include the right-click options for Iomega Tools. Hopefully, IBM will come out with a fix in the next BIOS upgrade. Any thoughts? TIA... John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 12:02:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA09929 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24890; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:01:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:55:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24547; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:55:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from xhoser.icgroup.com (xhoser.icgroup.com [208.210.124.41]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24533; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from WUNE183079.chase.com (bfm@bsd1.nyct.net [204.141.86.3]) by xhoser.icgroup.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA02547 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:59:42 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19981023115436.00942720@popserver.panix.com> X-Sender: bfm@popserver.panix.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:55:40 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Barry F Margolius Subject: Reading CDR discs in a Thinkpad 600? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: So far, I have been unable to read CDR media in my TP 600. Anybody out there have any luck? Thanks in advance, -barry From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 12:09:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA10046 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:09:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25387; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:08:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:07:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25235; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25205; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:07:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p11.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.74]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA13214; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810231606.JAA13214@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" , "Vincent Poy" Cc: "Patrick West" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 23 Oct 98 09:03:32 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: IBM TP 2.1GB HD List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:44:50 -0400, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: >the 2.1gig HDD should work in a 365, no problem, as long as it is the >12.5mm HDD.. 12.5mm for the 365? I thought it was a standard 12.7mm. Oh well... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 12:10:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA10067 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:10:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25583; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:09:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:08:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25446; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25353; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:08:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p11.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.74]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA13512; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810231608.JAA13512@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" , "Vincent Poy" Cc: "Patrick West" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 23 Oct 98 09:05:25 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: IBM TP 2.1GB HD List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:02:16 -0700 (PDT), Vincent Poy wrote: >On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > > Thanks for the info but how does one open the case of the 380 >since I took off all screws and still can't open it... > I found that some of the ThinkPads are nightmares to open up. Notably the 701 and the 355 or the 750 (which I haven't opened yet). Easiest are the 350 and the 300... Have you tried looking at the hardware maintainence manual? I think it's ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/mobiles/tpvol3.pdf (if I remember correctly). It should have a complete diagram. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 12:16:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA10196 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:16:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26405; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:16:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:14:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25957; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:14:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from znet.com (sdts10-44.znet.net [207.167.66.44]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25933; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jmarnold@localhost) by znet.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA17435; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:11:20 -0700 Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:11:20 -0700 Message-Id: <199810231611.JAA17435@znet.com> From: "Jeffrey M. Arnold" To: Barry F Margolius Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Reading CDR discs in a Thinkpad 600? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981023115436.00942720@popserver.panix.com> References: <4.1.19981023115436.00942720@popserver.panix.com> List-Unsubscribe: I've had a problem with CDs written on one particular CDR drive (an HP, I forget the model), but other CDRs read without problem. -jeff Barry F Margolius writes: > So far, I have been unable to read CDR media in my TP 600. Anybody out > there have any luck? > > Thanks in advance, > > -barry From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 12:55:09 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA10893 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:55:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28977; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:54:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:53:50 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28829; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:53:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.1) id MAA17991 for dist-thinkpad; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:53:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28163; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:43:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA65032; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:26:14 -0400 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms05.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.197]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA16606; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:39:15 -0400 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU031 id 5040500021686681; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:41:02 -0400 From: Christopher Haun To: Cc: Subject: Re: Reading CDR discs in a Thinkpad 600? Message-ID: <5040500021686681000002L012*@MHS> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:41:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Does your 600 have a DVD or CDRom drive? All the 600s I have used with CD-Rom drives can read burned discs. Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 bfm@pobox.com on 10/23/98 11:58:39 AM Please respond to bfm@pobox.com To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: Reading CDR discs in a Thinkpad 600? So far, I have been unable to read CDR media in my TP 600. Anybody out there have any luck? Thanks in advance, -barry From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 12:59:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA10975 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29429; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:59:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:58:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29317; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:58:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.hd.ibm.de (firewall.hd.ibm.de [192.101.197.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29278; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:58:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com by firewall.hd.ibm.de (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03/TWS 4.03.3-cherub) id AA26366; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:57:07 +0200 Received: from pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com (pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com [9.228.3.110]) by mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.4-mailserver) with ESMTP id SAA17238 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:57:56 +0200 (MSZ) Received: (from krumeich@localhost) by pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.2-pool) id SAA16498; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:57:53 +0200 (MSZ) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:57:53 +0200 (MSZ) From: Alexander Krumeich Reply-To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de To: ThinkPad List Subject: Linux Sound driver for TP600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, yesterday I played around with sound driver on my linux-based TP600. It seems that there are lots of people out ther who don't have sound running on their TP600s, because the OSS Lite driver distribution doesn't support the TP600's CS4237b out of the box, only the SB emulation works. So you either spend money on the commercial version of the OSS package (www.4front-tech.com) or use the SB emulation mode. The ALSA programmers group have developed an Alternative Linux Sound Architecture. Their driver is free and supports the CS4237b directly. You can download it from http://alsa.jcu.cz Installing instructions for the TP600 are on Raph Levien's page (http://www.levien.com/tp600.html). It works great and installing is simple. Be sure to download, the driver (I use 0.2.0pre8), the libraries, and the utilities (they contain a mixer). Installing was really easy. Although the archives are source packages and not RPM, you need hardly do more than "./configure ; make ; make install". Have a great weekend, Alexander -- Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ Never trust a HAL 9000. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 13:02:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11022 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:02:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29817; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:01:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:00:02 -0400 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29495; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:00:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from moore@localhost) by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.1) id MAA07801 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28163; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:43:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA65032; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:26:14 -0400 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms05.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.197]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA16606; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:39:15 -0400 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU031 id 5040500021686681; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:41:02 -0400 From: Christopher Haun To: Cc: Subject: Re: Reading CDR discs in a Thinkpad 600? Message-ID: <5040500021686681000002L012*@MHS> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:41:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Does your 600 have a DVD or CDRom drive? All the 600s I have used with CD-Rom drives can read burned discs. Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 bfm@pobox.com on 10/23/98 11:58:39 AM Please respond to bfm@pobox.com To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: Reading CDR discs in a Thinkpad 600? So far, I have been unable to read CDR media in my TP 600. Anybody out there have any luck? Thanks in advance, -barry From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 13:19:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11341 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:19:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01407; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:18:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:15:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01148; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01110; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:14:57 -0400 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id NAA10478; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3630B975.131D3F40@csc.com> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:14:29 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP701: WIN98 References: <199810222033.NAA08832@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: At boot time (or whenever Windows is automatically detecting the hardware), it should be giving you three choices: use Windows driver, use third-party driver (from manufacturer), or something like 'don't install a driver'. If you choose the latter, you should not be prompted again. This is how things work in Win95, so I'm not positive about Win98, but it should be the same. HTH, Rob ----------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob_bell@nospam@csi.com ----------------------------------------- Paul Khoury wrote: > > I'm just curious, can you permanately disable Windows 98's messages about finding > new hardware permanately? I got another 701 today, so I can send my old one to Easyserve. > > The 540MB (that sounds like it might be failing) had Win98 on it, but I don't have the CD-ROM > it wanted when I had it connected to my Dock II. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 13:34:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11625 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:34:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02896; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:33:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02762; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:33:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAD (smtp4.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02405; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:28:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:27:35 -0400 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id NAA13885; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3630BC54.691A9E72@csc.com> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:26:44 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TPALL: NT vs. 95? References: <199810230528.WAA22719@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: You don't want to run NT on a PC with only 24MB. It would be a dog. Win95 would be the best choice (amongst Microsoft operating systems). It has the lowest memory and processor requirements and it more user-friendly for novices than NT. There shouldn't be major problems getting it networked to your other PCs. I suggest using NetBEUI instead of TCP/IP as a small LAN protocol. Much simpler to make things talk. HTH, Rob ----------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob_bell@nospam@csi.com ----------------------------------------- Paul Khoury wrote: > > I was thinking of setting aside one of my 701's for my dad or my brother > to access the internet off the LAN, and was wondering whether Windows 95 or Windows > NT would be better. I need file, (possibly print), and TCP/IP access to my network. > I had bad luck with Windows 95 connecting via TCP/IP to my network, but NT worked > fine, albeit slow. The target HD would be a 540MB that came to me with Windows 98 > preloaded (the slowest version of DOS/Windows I've EVER seen!). > > The machine has 24MB, and I will probably have it docked most of the time. > > Thanks for any suggestions. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 13:42:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11721 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:42:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03633; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:41:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03501; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:41:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (root@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03484; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:41:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA10215; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:38:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:38:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Vincent Poy To: Paul Khoury cc: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" , Patrick West , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: IBM TP 2.1GB HD In-Reply-To: <199810231608.JAA13512@stevie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:02:16 -0700 (PDT), Vincent Poy wrote: > > >On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > > > > Thanks for the info but how does one open the case of the 380 > >since I took off all screws and still can't open it... > > I found that some of the ThinkPads are nightmares to open up. Notably the 701 > and the 355 or the 750 (which I haven't opened yet). Easiest are the 350 and > the 300... > > Have you tried looking at the hardware maintainence manual? I > think it's ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/mobiles/tpvol3.pdf (if I remember correctly). > It should have a complete diagram. I tried the ftp link but /pub/mobiles doesn't exist... How does one get to the hardware maintenence manual on their website because I remember there was a address to get there but I've lost the email.. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 13:56:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11946 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:56:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04842; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:55:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:54:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04609; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:54:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arl-img-1.compuserve.com (arl-img-1.compuserve.com [149.174.217.131]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04563; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by arl-img-1.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.14) id NAA21166 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:53:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:53:11 -0400 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: I'm Troubled by my MEMORY! (SCAM ALERT) Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: Thinkpad list Message-ID: <199810231353_MC2-5DAD-F326@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: I have been looking for a competitive price for some memory for my Thinkp= ad 755CX (either 32Mb IC DRAM or 16Mb SO DIMM) for about three months! Based in UK, prices here are more expensive so I looked to the US. Howev= er there is a nasty trend. Attempting to get a quote via a website often results in an unrealistic email quote that WIIL NOT BE MATCHED when attempting to order! I have wasted a month with two different vendors -TRADex Intl and Macdona= ld Assoc: Both quoted excellent prices $48 and $87 for the 32Mb and $26.50 and $42 for the 16Mb, but these INCREASED to $120 -$126 for the 32Mb.... I am now attempting to buy from the UK where I can better interact with t= he vendor anyhow. So my advice to UK members of ths list is forget about competitive deals >from US vendors - the cheaper prices do not exist! Also, unless you have AMEX or are willing to fund an electronic money transfer (approx =A317.50) many online vendors will not deal with you and= also require that the billing address is the same as the deivery address.= = If anyone has second user modules for sale - I am interested... Good luck. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 13:56:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11952 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04873; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:56:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:55:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04707; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from polaris.nrc.ca (polaris.nrc.ca [132.246.160.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04669; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810231754.NAA04669@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by polaris.nrc.ca with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:54:21 -0400 From: "Oleskiw, Myron" To: "'ThinkPad'" Subject: [TP750C] Trackpoint/Keyboard Problems Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:52:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Several months ago, I began to have intermittent problems with the TrackPoint II not working on my TP750C. Over a period of several weeks, the problem became more frequent, and finally it stopped working altogether. I took the machine over to a local IBM authorized repair center. They tried to replace the keyboard (no improvement) and then the interposer card (no help either). The technician said that it seemed that it was the systemboard which was at fault and with a replace cost for that component of over $1000Cdn, I decided to wait. I tried a PS2 mouse in the PS2 port, but that no longer works either. I'm able to use the computer quasi-normally for everyday use with a serial mouse. However, I can no longer make any changes to machine setup (e.g. I wanted to change to EPP/ECP recently) because when I enter Easy-Setup, neither the TrackPoint, the keyboard arrow keys nor the serial mouse will allow me to make any selections on the screen. I found some recent postings interesting regarding the utility of simply buying another used machine rather than repairing a faulty one. Could someone point out the potential sources of such machines or of relatively inexpensive parts? I have the Hardware Maintenance Manual and believe that replacing the systemboard myself may be possible if I can get one at a good price. Any comments on solutions to this problem would be appreciated. Myron Oleskiw myron.oleskiw@nrc.ca From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 14:54:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA12859 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:54:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08839; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:51:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08591; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:51:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (erich.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08570; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:51:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:51:09 PST From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: , "Vincent Poy" Subject: Re: IBM TP 2.1GB HD Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:00:29 -0700 Message-ID: <01bdfeb7$66e38920$03785a8e@pmachule> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: Try the right address ;-} ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles/ ..peter.. -----Original Message----- From: Vincent Poy >> > Have you tried looking at the hardware maintainence manual? I > think it's ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/mobiles/tpvol3.pdf (if I remember correctly). > It should have a complete diagram. > I tried the ftp link but /pub/mobiles doesn't exist... How does >one get to the hardware maintenence manual on their website because I >remember there was a address to get there but I've lost the email.. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 15:57:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA02636 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09808; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:07:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:06:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09650; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:06:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09632; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:06:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amdk6266 ([205.130.16.14]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 2429100 ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:17:12 -0400 Message-ID: <005701bdfeb8$17c584a0$0200000a@amdk6266> From: "Slip" To: "Thinkpad Mailing list" Subject: Re: Upgrade path's for the 701. Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:05:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I guess the next question is if anyone wants to buy a 8mb dimm for the 701? :-) I'm not sure what other models it will work on(anyone?), if any but the 701c/s. Any offers? It's too small to bother with shipping, so I'd pay shipping in US. How much are these things going for anyways? Thanks, preciate it! -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 16:00:27 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA02681 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:00:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10974; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:21:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:21:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10852; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:21:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (erich.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10804; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:20:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:20:28 PST From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: "Oleskiw, Myron" , "'ThinkPad'" Subject: Re: [TP750C] Trackpoint/Keyboard Problems Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:29:46 -0700 Message-ID: <01bdfebb$7e25fc40$03785a8e@pmachule> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: WWW.onsale.com www.ubid.com www.surplusdirect.com and it's sister auction house www.surplusauction.com are the current low priced sources for older thinkpads....sometimes. There are idiots out there paying $600 plus for non-warranty 750's. ;-} Be aware that it is possible to buy TP 760E's P120 with 1.2 gig HD's, and 24MB of memory, 12.1 Active matrix and 90 day warranty for $600 plus. Www.ebay.com is another option but currently it seems to consist of people buying at the above auction houses and then selling them again . ;-{ Though this seems kind of interresting : http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=36232992 ..peter.. giving away all his secrets ..(grin) @ other points: It is VERY rare for the system board to go bad so that the mouse dosn't work anymore. MOST Authorized repair centers are staffed by Morons or butchers. I now refuse to deal with any of them other than IBM direct (Easyserve .) I would double check the connections ; especially the idiotic interposer card. I thought that a PS2 mouse required the Y cable. Only the keyboard would work directly of the PS2 connector . Or was that the other way around ? -----Original Message----- From: Oleskiw, Myron To: 'ThinkPad' Date: Friday, October 23, 1998 11:55 AM Subject: [TP750C] Trackpoint/Keyboard Problems >Several months ago, I began to have intermittent problems with the >TrackPoint II not working on my TP750C. Over a period of several weeks, the >problem became more frequent, and finally it stopped working altogether. I >took the machine over to a local IBM authorized repair center. They tried >to replace the keyboard (no improvement) and then the interposer card (no >help either). The technician said that it seemed that it was the >systemboard which was at fault and with a replace cost for that component of >over $1000Cdn, I decided to wait. I tried a PS2 mouse in the PS2 port, but >that no longer works either. It did work once ??? > >I'm able to use the computer quasi-normally for everyday use with a serial >mouse. However, I can no longer make any changes to machine setup (e.g. I >wanted to change to EPP/ECP recently) because when I enter Easy-Setup, >neither the TrackPoint, the keyboard arrow keys nor the serial mouse will >allow me to make any selections on the screen. TAB key ?? Sorry, don't have a thinkpad in front of me ...sigh. > >I found some recent postings interesting regarding the utility of simply >buying another used machine rather than repairing a faulty one. Could >someone point out the potential sources of such machines or of relatively >inexpensive parts? I have the Hardware Maintenance Manual and believe that >replacing the systemboard myself may be possible if I can get one at a good >price. > >Any comments on solutions to this problem would be appreciated. > >Myron Oleskiw > >myron.oleskiw@nrc.ca Cool, a fellow Canadian From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 16:31:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA03140 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:31:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15435; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:22:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14731; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:22:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mb1.mailbank.com (mb1.mailbank.com [204.244.193.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14710; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pp111-167.bctel.ca [209.52.111.167] (HELO master) by mb1.mailbank.com (AltaVista Mail V2.0H/2.0H BL25H listener) id 0000_00d6_3630_da99_8c71; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:35:53 -0700 Message-ID: <005301bdfebc$6b32a5b0$a76f34d1@master.adsl.bctel.net> From: "David S. Crombie" To: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" Cc: "Thinkpad List" Subject: Re: [TP750C] Trackpoint/Keyboard Problems Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:36:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: re: mouse / ps2 I had my ps/2 mouse connected directly as well as with a keyboard using the y-cable. Both worked fine David >I thought that a PS2 mouse required the Y cable. Only the keyboard would >work directly >of the PS2 connector . Or was that the other way around ? > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 18:51:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA04871 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22196; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:48:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22031; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:48:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21999; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:48:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from theriver.com (a26.pm3-29.theriver.com [206.102.195.90]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA14039; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:47:56 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36310750.171269E9@theriver.com> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:46:40 -0700 From: James Mckenzie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> CC: Thinkpad list Subject: Re: I'm Troubled by my MEMORY! (SCAM ALERT) References: <199810231353_MC2-5DAD-F326@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark: You could also add the VAT and other import fees. I would stick with a vendor in the country where I am buying. I found it was less expensive for me to buy from the US when I was stationed in Korea then to go downtown to the Electronics Market due to the 10% VAT for electronics and the high markup rates. =20 Also, the memory market is in a serious state of flux here with prices rising and then falling as much as 10% per week. James Mark Gardiner wrote: >=20 > I have been looking for a competitive price for some memory for my Thin= kpad > 755CX (either 32Mb IC DRAM or 16Mb SO DIMM) for about three months! >=20 > Based in UK, prices here are more expensive so I looked to the US. How= ever > there is a nasty trend. Attempting to get a quote via a website often > results in an unrealistic email quote that WIIL NOT BE MATCHED when > attempting to order! >=20 > I have wasted a month with two different vendors -TRADex Intl and Macdo= nald > Assoc: >=20 > Both quoted excellent prices $48 and $87 for the 32Mb and $26.50 and $4= 2 > for the 16Mb, but these INCREASED to $120 -$126 for the 32Mb.... >=20 > I am now attempting to buy from the UK where I can better interact with= the > vendor anyhow. >=20 > So my advice to UK members of ths list is forget about competitive deal= s > from US vendors - the cheaper prices do not exist! >=20 > Also, unless you have AMEX or are willing to fund an electronic money > transfer (approx =A317.50) many online vendors will not deal with you a= nd > also require that the billing address is the same as the deivery addres= s. >=20 > If anyone has second user modules for sale - I am interested... >=20 > Good luck. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 19:55:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA05575 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24531; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:55:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:50:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24128; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:50:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24113; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p00.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.63]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA17341; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810232351.QAA17341@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Rob Bell" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 23 Oct 98 16:48:38 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TPALL: NT vs. 95? List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:26:44 -0500, Rob Bell wrote: >You don't want to run NT on a PC with only 24MB. It would be a dog. >Win95 would be the best choice (amongst Microsoft operating systems). >It has the lowest memory and processor requirements and it more >user-friendly for novices than NT. There shouldn't be major problems >getting it networked to your other PCs. I suggest using NetBEUI instead >of TCP/IP as a small LAN protocol. Much simpler to make things talk. But the problem also is that TCP/IP is REQUIRED, because I have OS/2 mainly, and I have a SPARC that I can only talk to through TCP/IP. Plus, how would the user access the internet or intranet without TCP/IP? The reason I considered NT is because I have it laying around here (4.0), and thought it would be more secure than 95, even if it's just for home use. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 19:56:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA05580 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:56:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21880; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:42:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21534; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:42:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21521; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:42:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from theriver.com (a26.pm3-29.theriver.com [206.102.195.90]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12582; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:42:10 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <363105F7.14D4F277@theriver.com> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:40:55 -0700 From: James Mckenzie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" , Vincent Poy , Patrick West , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: IBM TP 2.1GB HD References: <199810231608.JAA13512@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The 750 is the standard pull and open. Nice way to get "inside". James Paul Khoury wrote: > > On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:02:16 -0700 (PDT), Vincent Poy wrote: > > >On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com wrote: > > > > Thanks for the info but how does one open the case of the 380 > >since I took off all screws and still can't open it... > > > > I found that some of the ThinkPads are nightmares to open up. Notably the 701 > and the 355 or the 750 (which I haven't opened yet). Easiest are the 350 and > the 300... > > Have you tried looking at the hardware maintainence manual? I > think it's ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/mobiles/tpvol3.pdf (if I remember correctly). > It should have a complete diagram. > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 19:56:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA05593 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24751; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:56:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:52:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24216; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:52:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24184; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p00.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.63]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA17509; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810232352.QAA17509@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Rob Bell" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 23 Oct 98 16:50:08 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP701: WIN98 List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:14:29 -0500, Rob Bell wrote: >At boot time (or whenever Windows is automatically detecting the >hardware), it should be giving you three choices: use Windows driver, >use third-party driver (from manufacturer), or something like 'don't >install a driver'. If you choose the latter, you should not be prompted >again. This is how things work in Win95, so I'm not positive about >Win98, but it should be the same. Now when it starts up, it doesn't even show "My Computer", but I think I'll just kill it anyways... The HD is so fragmented, and everything runs like a dog. Plus, I only need 1 browser (Netscape). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 21:06:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06163 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 21:06:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27208; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 21:06:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 21:02:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26978; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 21:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26956; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 21:02:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA03908 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:01:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alb-ny3-07.ix.netcom.com(204.32.163.103) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma003887; Fri Oct 23 20:01:05 1998 Message-ID: <363126E9.5CD6@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 21:01:29 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NC320 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: FS 365xd References: <005701bdfeb8$17c584a0$0200000a@amdk6266> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: btw I'm in upstate NY FS ThinkPad 365XD needs a hard drive. 365xd, dual scan, 16megs, internal cd-rom External floppy, ac power supply $250.00 Harvey 518-393-5157 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 23 23:18:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA07510 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 23:18:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01987; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 23:18:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 23:14:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01752; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 23:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01740; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 23:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA01604; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 17:13:41 -1000 Message-ID: <001d01bdfefc$553fcc20$9c1a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Rob Bell" , "Paul Khoury" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: TPALL: NT vs. 95? Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 22:13:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >getting it networked to your other PCs. I suggest using NetBEUI instead >of TCP/IP as a small LAN protocol. Much simpler to make things talk. I agree with the suggestion to use W95. For W95 peer-to-peer I usually enable all the damn protocols; somewhat slower, but usually *something* works:-) Networking in W95 OSR1 had problems, as did some of the earliest releases of OSR2. You can fix them with patches, e.g. from Wahlbeem's W95 wonderful update site, http://www.walbeehm.com/win95upd.html. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 01:00:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA08359 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 01:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05578; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 01:00:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 00:56:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05239; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 00:56:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05227; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 00:56:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icanect.net (132.p1.Ascend04.MIA.Icanect.Net [208.224.59.132]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id AAA27098; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 00:56:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36315E38.7AB52A6F@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 00:57:28 -0400 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Mckenzie CC: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, Thinkpad list Subject: Re: I'm Troubled by my MEMORY! (SCAM ALERT) References: <199810231353_MC2-5DAD-F326@compuserve.com> <36310750.171269E9@theriver.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You have obviously been shopping with the wrong memory vendor..! a 32meg DRAM card is $99, it is thinkpad proven..add $3.75 for Global Priority Mail and you have a 32meg card for a 755CX James Mckenzie wrote: >=20 > Mark: >=20 > You could also add the VAT and other import fees. I would stick with a > vendor in the country where I am buying. I found it was less expensive > for me to buy from the US when I was stationed in Korea then to go > downtown to the Electronics Market due to the 10% VAT for electronics > and the high markup rates. >=20 > Also, the memory market is in a serious state of flux here with prices > rising and then falling as much as 10% per week. >=20 > James >=20 > Mark Gardiner wrote: > > > > I have been looking for a competitive price for some memory for my Th= inkpad > > 755CX (either 32Mb IC DRAM or 16Mb SO DIMM) for about three months! > > > > Based in UK, prices here are more expensive so I looked to the US. H= owever > > there is a nasty trend. Attempting to get a quote via a website often > > results in an unrealistic email quote that WIIL NOT BE MATCHED when > > attempting to order! > > > > I have wasted a month with two different vendors -TRADex Intl and Mac= donald > > Assoc: > > > > Both quoted excellent prices $48 and $87 for the 32Mb and $26.50 and = $42 > > for the 16Mb, but these INCREASED to $120 -$126 for the 32Mb.... > > > > I am now attempting to buy from the UK where I can better interact wi= th the > > vendor anyhow. > > > > So my advice to UK members of ths list is forget about competitive de= als > > from US vendors - the cheaper prices do not exist! > > > > Also, unless you have AMEX or are willing to fund an electronic money > > transfer (approx =A317.50) many online vendors will not deal with you= and > > also require that the billing address is the same as the deivery addr= ess. > > > > If anyone has second user modules for sale - I am interested... > > > > Good luck. --=20 Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a=20 closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 02:17:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA09182 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 02:17:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07718; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 02:17:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 02:14:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07442; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 02:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07423; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 02:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p14.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.77]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA28037; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 23:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810240615.XAA28037@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "David Ross" , "Rob Bell" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 23 Oct 98 23:12:30 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TPALL: NT vs. 95? List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 22:13:52 -0500, David Ross wrote: >>getting it networked to your other PCs. I suggest using NetBEUI instead >>of TCP/IP as a small LAN protocol. Much simpler to make things talk. > > >I agree with the suggestion to use W95. > >For W95 peer-to-peer I usually enable all the damn protocols; somewhat slower, but usually *something* works:-) > >Networking in W95 OSR1 had problems, as did some of the earliest releases of OSR2. You can fix them with patches, e.g. from >Wahlbeem's W95 wonderful update site, http://www.walbeehm.com/win95upd.html. I'm almost thinking of using it as a Quake II server when I'm at my friend's dorm maybe... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 04:33:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA10041 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 04:33:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12608; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 04:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 04:29:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12363; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 04:29:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.bctel.ca (mail1.bctel.ca [207.194.28.67]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12346; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 04:29:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from defiant (00-00-86-1d-bf-b1.bconnected.net [209.53.9.197]) by mail1.bctel.ca with SMTP id BAA02629 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 01:29:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ryan Hung" To: Subject: Thinkpad 600 - audio repetitions? Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 01:29:45 -0700 Message-ID: <000601bdff28$74745e40$c50935d1@defiant.bconnected.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I have the Thinkpad 600, 41U model (PII233, TFT). I've been having frequent problems with audio in both the original Win95 OSR2.1 and Win98. Specifically, under certain circumstances (mostly when resuming from suspend or hibernation, but not exclusively), when a Wave sound is played, the first 1/4 second will be repetitively played forever. This typically sounds like a rapid "ding ding ding ding ding ding..."--highly annoying, although it doesn't affect any functioning except for sound. It sometimes disappears when the affected application is closed (e.g. if the sound originated from an Outlook appointment reminder, closing Outlook sometimes stops the sound). Any ideas? I have the latest Audio Features Diskette installed (1998-06-24). The only other audio problem I had in the past was that MIDI wasn't working, but I managed to fix that. BTW, has anybody noticed that the speakers on the 600 seem to be covered with some substance that absorbs moisture, perhaps cardboard? Constant exposure to a sweaty palm on mine has caused the surface of the speaker to show raised edges, with one flake coming off. Ryan. _/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/rhung@vcn.bc.ca__/ \__/ \__/ \_Apoptosis=programmed cell death/ \__/ \rwhung@interchange.ubc.ca_/ \__ _/ --you can't live without it!/ \__/ \http://www.vcn.bc.ca/people/rhung \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \My words Copyright (C) 1998 \__ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 09:43:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA11587 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 09:43:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24402; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 09:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 09:41:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24282; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 09:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24264; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 09:40:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hetherington.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA04478; Sat, 24 Oct 98 09:40:53 EDT Message-Id: <3631D8E5.A8E0A5D9@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 09:40:54 -0400 From: Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science, Spoken Language Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Ryan Hung Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600 - audio repetitions? References: <000601bdff28$74745e40$c50935d1@defiant.bconnected.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I occassionally see the exact same problem with audio repetitions on my 600 in Win98. I too have the latest drivers from IBM's site installed. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 10:50:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA12091 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:50:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26079; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:49:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:49:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25993; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25955; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:46:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA02283 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:46:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:46:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Thinkpad list Subject: Re: I'm Troubled by my MEMORY! (SCAM ALERT) In-Reply-To: <199810231353_MC2-5DAD-F326@compuserve.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Mark Gardiner wrote: > I have been looking for a competitive price for some memory for my Thinkpad > 755CX (either 32Mb IC DRAM or 16Mb SO DIMM) for about three months! *Everyone* I know gets their memory from Chip Merchant. I've been using them for about 10 years now, never had a problem. Dunno if they still carry stuff for the 755. www.thechipmerchant.com -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 10:54:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA12113 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:54:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26353; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:53:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:53:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26248; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:53:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26157; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:50:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA02289 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:50:16 -0400 Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:50:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600 - audio repetitions? In-Reply-To: <000601bdff28$74745e40$c50935d1@defiant.bconnected.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 24 Oct 1998, Ryan Hung wrote: > I have the Thinkpad 600, 41U model (PII233, TFT). I've been having frequent > problems with audio in both the original Win95 OSR2.1 and Win98. > Specifically, under certain circumstances (mostly when resuming from suspend > or hibernation, but not exclusively), when a Wave sound is played, the first > 1/4 second will be repetitively played forever. This typically sounds like > a rapid "ding ding ding ding ding ding..."--highly annoying, although it > doesn't affect any functioning except for sound. It sometimes disappears Whoa. I've had the same problem on my Gateway PII400 desktop system at work under WinNT SP3. I uninstalled and reinstalled the sound drivers a couple times (for other reasons), and haven't seen this problem in a month now. I fiddled around with a lot of other stuff too, so that might not have been what fixed it. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 12:31:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA12693 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 12:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29086; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 12:31:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 12:30:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28980; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 12:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28968; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 12:30:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paddy (mg137-007.ricochet.net [204.179.137.7]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA16103; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 11:30:29 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Ryan Hung" , Subject: RE: Thinkpad 600 - audio repetitions? Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 09:30:28 -0700 Message-ID: <004701bdff6b$9c3a1e40$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000601bdff28$74745e40$c50935d1@defiant.bconnected.net> Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: The repeated audio is a classic sign of an IRQ conflict (or maybe a DMA conflict?). I've had it happen on several systems, always when something was stepping on the audio device's resources. I would try fiddling with the IRQ and possibly DMA settings... -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 13:14:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA12928 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 13:14:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01177; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 13:14:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 13:14:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01094; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 13:14:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk (helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.8.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01081; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 13:13:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from echidna (remote391.dialup.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.77.237]) by helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA01654 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:13:52 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199810241713.SAA01654@helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk> From: "Costas S. Iliopoulos" Organization: King's College London To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:36:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: TP365 X, Win 98 and Standby Reply-to: csi@dcs.kcl.ac.uk Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: Hi there I installed Win 98 in a 365X. I do not have FAT32. I have 40Mb memory and a 3com ethernet pc card. And I do have the latest bios. When Win98 went into standby, it refused to wakeup (despite 2+ keystrokes). Yeap, I waited 4-5 minutes....:-). A black screen with the cursor blinking in the top left corner. I have read the Thinkpad Win98 standby (loooong) list of problems but neither mpeg was playing, nor IBM anti-virus software was running when it went on standby. The only program running was the "scheduled tasks" one. Does anybody have any experience with the 365X going into standby/hibernation under win98? It suspect that the 3Com 3C589C ethernet card might be the problem....(the thinkpad info thing says that it takes few minutes for an ATA (?) pc card to re-install itself after a standby, but as I said I waited 5 minutes....!) I am not able to extensively test the 3com card theory due to another weird Win98 thing: I rebooted few times while testing the standby. Then win98 asked me "you run into trouble with standby, shall we turn the standby thing off?" (something like that). In a moment of weakness I answered "yes". Win98 then removed the two standby subholes (boxes?) of the "Power schemes" card of the "power management" in the control panel (it wiped them out, like they never existed). So there was no way of turning standby back on. Anyone knows how can I get them back ? I removed the thinkpad utilities and re-installed them but the above two subholes did not come back. Re-installing windoze 98 does the trick. Then I reinstalled win98 and the two subholes came back. It got stuck in standby again, and then I rebooted win98, and this time without asking me...!, win98 wiped the two "standby" subholes from the "power schemes" away... I saw somebody collecting info on bad 365X screens. We have three 365X's, they are sitting mostly on our desks, and we have gone through 12 systemboards (they seem to last about 3 months), and 2 screens in 18 months, the technicians said its a common problem....still under warranty.... Cheers Costas ______________________________________________________________________ Costas S. Iliopoulos Algorithm Design Group Tel: 44 (171) 873 2809 Dept of Computer Science Fax: 44 (171) 873 2851 King's College London Sec: 44 (171) 873 2588 Strand England http://www.dcs.kcl.ac.uk/staff/csi ______________________________________________________________________ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 14:11:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA13374 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:11:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03130; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:11:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:10:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03001; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:10:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02989; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:10:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA02706; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 08:09:51 -1000 Message-ID: <001001bdff79$8b3b7fe0$9f1a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "John H. Kim" , "Thinkpad list" Subject: Re: I'm Troubled by my MEMORY! (SCAM ALERT) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 13:10:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >*Everyone* I know gets their memory from Chip Merchant. I've >been using them for about 10 years now, never had a problem. >Dunno if they still carry stuff for the 755. The original poster would also have had a problem with shipping, something I can identify with; the only cost-effective shipping method across an ocean, whether it be to the UK or to Hawaii, is by mail, and most bigger vendors (like Chipmerchant) will only go with FedEx or UPS. I got several bum chips from Chipmerchant while trying to get memory for my 560; while they stood by their price, I had to eat the shipping on the returns. I think that someone like Mark in England would do much better dealing with someone like Bill Morrow (who by virtue of his size can be more flexible on his shipping and billing policies than a big company), though to be honest my impression is that computer accessory prices in the UK are finally dropping out of the stratosphere, and that when shipping and hassle are included shopping locally might be the best idea, at least for those who live near a big city. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 14:22:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA13481 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:22:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03782; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:22:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:20:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03631; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03618; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:20:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA02764; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 08:20:22 -1000 Message-ID: <003601bdff7b$00f10e20$9f1a7e82@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Paul Khoury" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: TPALL: NT vs. 95? Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 13:20:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >I'm almost thinking of using it as a Quake II server when I'm at my friend's dorm maybe... A 701 running W95 as a Quake II server? Are you nuts? While you're at it, why not set it the problem of determining "the meaning of life, the universe, and everything" :-? - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 16:02:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA14127 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06194; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:01:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:00:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06076; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tubby.pacificcoast.net (uucp@tubby.pacificcoast.net [204.209.208.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06063; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tubby.pacificcoast.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) id MAA20549 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 12:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usr1-56.gen.pacificcoast.net(139.142.98.56), claiming to be "ixswykpv" via SMTP by tubby.pacificcoast.net, id smtpd020503; Sat Oct 24 12:49:56 1998 Message-ID: <001501bdff88$e4205040$38628e8b@ixswykpv> Reply-To: "D.G. (David) Stevenson" From: "D.G. (David) Stevenson" To: "ThinkPad" Subject: Addonics 20x PCMCIA CDRom Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 12:57:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01BDFF4D.EB593A60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BDFF4D.EB593A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Several weeks ago, I recall seeing a solution to getting a Addonics = 20x PCMCIA CD-ROM working with a ThinkPad. (BTW: I have a TP560x) I have = recently installed the updated drivers from SystemSoft's CardWorks(TM) = Version: 5.32.24 and still I can not get the system to assign a drive = letter to it . Perhaps I have over looked some thing very simple, might = someone remind me of the steps taken to install this drive. Regards, David Stevenson ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BDFF4D.EB593A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Several weeks ago, I recall seeing a solution to = getting=20 a Addonics 20x PCMCIA CD-ROM working with a ThinkPad. (BTW: I have a = TP560x) I=20 have recently installed the updated drivers from SystemSoft's = CardWorks(TM)=20 Version: 5.32.24 and still I can not get the system to assign a drive = letter to=20 it . Perhaps I have over looked some thing very simple, might someone = remind me=20 of the steps taken to install this drive.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BDFF4D.EB593A60-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 17:40:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA14745 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08846; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:37:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08738; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08725; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:36:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p25.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.88]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA00534; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810242134.OAA00534@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "David Ross" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 24 Oct 98 14:35:26 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TPALL: NT vs. 95? List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 13:20:33 -0500, David Ross wrote: >>I'm almost thinking of using it as a Quake II server when I'm at my friend's dorm maybe... > > >A 701 running W95 as a Quake II server? Are you nuts? You could probably say that. Well, I don't know if Win95 will work, because TCP/IP will NOT work on another machine, so I'm going to try NT for the heck of it... While you're >at it, why not set it the problem of determining "the meaning of life, the universe, and everything" :-? > Nah, I'm not good at science and math. Like you, my friend. :) -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 18:22:47 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA15028 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:22:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10112; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:22:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:20:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09992; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:20:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09939; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:19:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p25.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.88]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA02021 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 15:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810242216.PAA02021@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 24 Oct 98 15:17:16 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP701 with NT 4 List-Unsubscribe: Well, the system seems okay so far running NT. One question, do the Chips & Tech drivers for NT support 65K colors? Also, where and what service packs for NT do I need for Y2K compliance? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 18:32:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA15084 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:32:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10610; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:32:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:30:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10454; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:30:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10442; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:30:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p75 (p25.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.88]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA02494 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 15:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810242228.PAA02494@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 24 Oct 98 15:29:04 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP701 with NT 4 List-Unsubscribe: Okay, NT is running now, and it's actually not as slow as I anticipated from the list. TCP/IP works, but I don't know where to get drivers for the ESS 688 soundcard. I know where to get drivers for the video card, however. Also, has anyone here got NT to see files on an OS/2 network? Thanks. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 20:07:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA15793 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:07:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12606; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:06:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:04:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12513; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chele.cais.net (rj@chele.cais.com [199.0.216.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12501; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (rj@localhost) by chele.cais.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA22875; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:04:20 -0400 (EDT) From: rj To: Paul Khoury cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP701 with NT 4 In-Reply-To: <199810242228.PAA02494@ritchie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: If you mean HPFS files I recall reading somewhere that NT4 could not read them while NT3.51 could. As for FAT, there you stand a chance in I recall RASing into an OS/2 network and actually getting something done but it has been awile. On Sat, 24 Oct 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > Okay, NT is running now, and it's actually not as slow as I anticipated from the list. > > TCP/IP works, but I don't know where to get drivers for the ESS 688 soundcard. I know where > to get drivers for the video card, however. Also, has anyone here got NT to see files on > an OS/2 network? > > Thanks. > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 20:12:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA15824 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13052; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:12:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:10:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12894; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chele.cais.net (rj@chele.cais.com [199.0.216.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12882; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:10:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (rj@localhost) by chele.cais.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA23236; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:10:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:10:09 -0400 (EDT) From: rj To: Paul Khoury cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP701 with NT 4 In-Reply-To: <199810242216.PAA02021@ritchie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: There is a hot fix for y2k for SP3 somewhere in the MS maze, but it is suppose to be in SP4 when that hits the street and rumor has that it will happen soon. I personally will wait until SP4 is avail. (I'm running NT4.0SP3 on my 701 as well) and that is suppose to APM capabilities as well. On Sat, 24 Oct 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > Well, the system seems okay so far running NT. One question, do the Chips & Tech drivers > for NT support 65K colors? Also, where and what service packs for NT do I need for Y2K > compliance? > > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 20:20:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA15879 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13703; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:18:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13594; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:18:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13573; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:17:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810250017.UAA13573@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Sun, 23 Oct 1988 17:14:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor Kress" To: "Paul Khoury" , "rj" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:18:56 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP701 with NT 4 List-Unsubscribe: It is true that NT4 does not support HPFS, but if you get the appropriate files from 3.51, they will work perfectly well in 4. I suspect that MS decided that supporting HPFS was an open admission that other operating systems exist. On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:04:20 -0400 (EDT), rj wrote: >If you mean HPFS files I recall reading somewhere that NT4 could not >read them while NT3.51 could. As for FAT, there you stand a chance in >I recall RASing into an OS/2 network and actually getting something done >but it has been awile. ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 21:17:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA16352 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:17:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15187; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:16:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:12:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15004; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marlin.nosc.mil (dseaman@marlin.nosc.mil [128.49.4.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14991; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:12:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (dseaman@localhost) by marlin.nosc.mil (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA04265; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:12:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "Derek L. Seaman" To: rj cc: Paul Khoury , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP701 with NT 4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: SP4 has been available since this past Wednesday. :-) On Sat, 24 Oct 1998, rj wrote: > There is a hot fix for y2k for SP3 somewhere in the MS maze, but it is > suppose to be in SP4 when that hits the street and rumor has that it will > happen soon. I personally will wait until SP4 is avail. (I'm running > NT4.0SP3 on my 701 as well) and that is suppose to APM capabilities as > well. > > On Sat, 24 Oct 1998, Paul Khoury wrote: > > > Well, the system seems okay so far running NT. One question, do the Chips & Tech drivers > > for NT support 65K colors? Also, where and what service packs for NT do I need for Y2K > > compliance? > > > > > > -- > > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > > Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > > ICQ#14582895 > > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 24 23:27:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA17635 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:27:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27680; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:25:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:21:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27531; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27518; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:21:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amdk6266 ([205.130.16.117]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 4308700 ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:32:55 -0400 Message-ID: <002c01bdffc6$82e81fe0$0200000a@amdk6266> From: "Slip" To: "rj" , "Paul Khoury" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: TP701 with NT 4 Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:21:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >There is a hot fix for y2k for SP3 somewhere in the MS maze, but it is >suppose to be in SP4 when that hits the street and rumor has that it will >happen soon. I personally will wait until SP4 is avail. (I'm running >NT4.0SP3 on my 701 as well) and that is suppose to APM capabilities as >well. I'v been giving it a lot of thought about running NT on my 701. With the company I work for, I can get NT fairly cheap(it's still expensive, but considerably cheaper than retail). Right now I have a 720Mb HD with 16mb ram(soon to be 24). You think NT will run ok? I'm worried more about hardware compatability more than anything. (only piece of hardware I have is a Home&away NIC which works fine under Win95OSRa)Also, anyone out there put IE4 on a 701? I'd appreciate any thoughts you have on this. Thanks. -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 00:28:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA18391 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00312; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:24:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00150; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:24:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00138; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:24:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA07236; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:24:15 -1000 Message-ID: <001901bdffcf$5cb94200$53c52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Slip" , "rj" , "Paul Khoury" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: TP701 with NT 4 Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:24:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >Also, anyone out >there put IE4 on a 701? I'd appreciate any thoughts you have on this. Sure; worked fine. I don't understand why people are afraid of IE4 these days - only the 1st release was problematic. However, if you're running OSR1a note that the IE4 installation will do many invisible updates to your system, some of which won't easily 'downdate' if you then deinstall IE4. Of course, you shouldn't *have* to downdate, but one never knows. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 00:32:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA18418 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:32:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00593; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:32:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:29:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00377; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:29:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chele.cais.net (rj@chele.cais.com [199.0.216.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00344; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:28:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (rj@localhost) by chele.cais.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA11960; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:28:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:28:36 -0400 (EDT) From: rj To: Slip cc: Paul Khoury , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP701 with NT 4 In-Reply-To: <002c01bdffc6$82e81fe0$0200000a@amdk6266> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: It will run but with 16MB it's virtually unusable, with 24MB it's usable but there is a fair amount of disk thrashing, with 40MB it works well. I've never used your nic but i think that others on the list have. I have been quit pleased with NT4, in the 2 yrs ive been using it has never crashed and I find it faster than Win95. HTH On Sat, 24 Oct 1998, Slip wrote: > >There is a hot fix for y2k for SP3 somewhere in the MS maze, but it is > >suppose to be in SP4 when that hits the street and rumor has that it will > >happen soon. I personally will wait until SP4 is avail. (I'm running > >NT4.0SP3 on my 701 as well) and that is suppose to APM capabilities as > >well. > > > I'v been giving it a lot of thought about running NT on > my 701. With the company I work for, I can get NT fairly cheap(it's still > expensive, but considerably cheaper than retail). Right now I have a 720Mb > HD with 16mb ram(soon to be 24). You think NT will run ok? I'm worried more > about hardware compatability more than anything. (only piece of hardware I > have is a Home&away NIC which works fine under Win95OSRa)Also, anyone out > there put IE4 on a 701? I'd appreciate any thoughts you have on this. > Thanks. > -Jamie > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 00:38:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA18466 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:38:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00986; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:35:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00815; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chele.cais.net (rj@chele.cais.com [199.0.216.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00803; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:35:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (rj@localhost) by chele.cais.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA12404; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:34:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:34:51 -0400 (EDT) From: rj To: David Ross cc: Slip , Paul Khoury , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP701 with NT 4 In-Reply-To: <001901bdffcf$5cb94200$53c52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I agree IE4 works well but do not load Active Desktop, it has some really slick features but it caused much grief and I unloaded it - it made the system unstable. On Sat, 24 Oct 1998, David Ross wrote: > >Also, anyone out > >there put IE4 on a 701? I'd appreciate any thoughts you have on this. > > > Sure; worked fine. I don't understand why people are afraid of IE4 these > days - only the 1st release was problematic. > > However, if you're running OSR1a note that the IE4 installation will do many > invisible updates to your system, some of which won't easily 'downdate' > if you then deinstall IE4. Of course, you shouldn't *have* to downdate, > but one never knows. > > - David R. > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 01:22:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA18867 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:22:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02156; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:21:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:17:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02001; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01988; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:17:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA07320; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 19:16:47 -1000 Message-ID: <001101bdffd6$b8ef0bc0$53c52581@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "rj" Cc: "Slip" , "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: TP701 with NT 4 Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:16:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >I agree IE4 works well but do not load Active Desktop Yes, I should have said this. IE4: good. Active Desktop: bad. BTW, one good thing about IE4 is that you can then install Outlook Express, which is a terrible newsreader but a great mail program, including support for simultaneous multiple servers and full IMAP 4 compliance. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 01:18:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA19136 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:18:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04486; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:17:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:13:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03763; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:13:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03731; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:13:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p27.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.90]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA20783; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810250610.XAA20783@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "rj" , "Slip" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 24 Oct 98 22:11:25 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP701 with NT 4 List-Unsubscribe: >I'v been giving it a lot of thought about running NT on >my 701. With the company I work for, I can get NT fairly cheap(it's still >expensive, but considerably cheaper than retail). Right now I have a 720Mb >HD with 16mb ram(soon to be 24). You think NT will run ok? Get 24MB. It runs well on my 720MB HD now. As for cheap, I'm curious, how much? I got mine for $35. I'm worried more >about hardware compatability more than anything. (only piece of hardware I >have is a Home&away NIC which works fine under Win95OSRa) IMO, that card is trash. Sell it on eBay like I did, and get a 3COM or comparable PCMCIA NIC. Also, anyone out >there put IE4 on a 701? I'd appreciate any thoughts you have on this. I'm installing Communicator 4.5 now, and will see how that works out. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 01:19:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA19146 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04610; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:19:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:15:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04165; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:15:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04050; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:14:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p27.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.90]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA20835; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810250612.XAA20835@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "rj" , "Slip" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 24 Oct 98 22:13:04 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP701 with NT 4 List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:28:36 -0400 (EDT), rj wrote: >It will run but with 16MB it's virtually unusable, with 24MB it's >usable but there is a fair amount of disk thrashing, On 24MB? Not really, though I admit OS/2 runs better. It runs quite well, though I just crashed it by accidently turning off the CD-ROM on the Dock II. with 40MB >it works well. I've never used your nic but i think that others >on the list have. And the ethernet capabilities stink for other than TCP/IP... I have been quit pleased with NT4, in the 2 yrs >ive been using it has never crashed and I find it faster than >Win95. HTH > Well, yeah, and more stable than Win95... :) -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 02:04:38 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA19542 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:04:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05884; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:04:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:01:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05717; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:01:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05705; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from amdk6266 ([205.130.16.117]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 4520500 ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 03:12:14 -0400 Message-ID: <000101bdffe5$253584e0$0200000a@amdk6266> From: "Slip" To: "Thinkpad Mailing list" Subject: [TP701] Overheating while charging Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:00:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Hey there, I'v been having trouble with my battery lately and I think I'v narrowed it down to a specefic problem...When using the battery for say an hour at minumim usage, the battery will jump from 1:30mins left to turning itself off-completely drained. I get the warning beeps, but they sound right as the system turns off...While it was charging this morning(I was using it while it charged) I noticed that it was getting *very* hot.(as it usually does) I left it go a couple more minutes(at which time it was only charged around 39%) until the battery-charging light suddenly went off. (this is the first time I'v used it the entire time it was charging-normally it sits suspended overnight) Popping open the battery meter revealed that the battery was supposidly 100% charged. I know that if a charger gets too hot it will shut off as appearently this did. However, after letting the battery and the system cool down, I tried to finish charging. The system appearently had other thoughts about this and still reported that it was 100% charged. So now I'm stuck with not knowing if the battery has been fully charged when i leave it do so over-night. Anyone else out there have the same problem and possibly a sollution? The system is only a couple months old and the battery included was supposidly new. Any ideas? Thanks. -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 02:14:18 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA19596 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:14:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06254; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:14:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:10:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06094; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:10:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06075; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from amdk6266 ([205.130.16.117]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 4524800 ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 03:21:41 -0400 Message-ID: <003001bdffe6$77a7f9a0$0200000a@amdk6266> From: "Slip" To: "David Ross" , "rj" , "Paul Khoury" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: TP701 with NT 4 Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:09:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >>Also, anyone out >>there put IE4 on a 701? I'd appreciate any thoughts you have on this. >Sure; worked fine. I don't understand why people are afraid of IE4 these >days - only the 1st release was problematic. If I can avoid spending a day installing and then uninstalling IE4, I'm that much better. :-) But we'll see with this 8 more mb of ram. Thanks for your time. -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 03:00:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA19856 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 03:00:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04271; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:16:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:11:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03665; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03652; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:11:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p27.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.90]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA20712; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:08:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810250608.XAA20712@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Derek L. Seaman" , "rj" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 24 Oct 98 22:09:47 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP701 with NT 4 List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:12:04 -0700 (PDT), Derek L. Seaman wrote: >SP4 has been available since this past Wednesday. :-) Oh. How does one install it, and how big is it? I only have SO much space on my FTP server... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 03:05:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA19995 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 03:05:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04249; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:15:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:11:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03604; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:11:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03592; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:11:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p27.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.90]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA20685; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810250608.XAA20685@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "rj" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 24 Oct 98 22:09:18 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP701 with NT 4 List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:10:09 -0400 (EDT), rj wrote: >There is a hot fix for y2k for SP3 somewhere in the MS maze, but it is >suppose to be in SP4 when that hits the street and rumor has that it will >happen soon. I personally will wait until SP4 is avail. (I'm running >NT4.0SP3 on my 701 as well) and that is suppose to APM capabilities as >well. > APM too? Cool. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 03:07:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA20050 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 03:07:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04854; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:16:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04332; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:16:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04320; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:16:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p27.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.90]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA20904; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810250613.XAA20904@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "rj" , "Victor Kress" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 24 Oct 98 22:14:43 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP701 with NT 4 List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:18:56 +0000, Victor Kress wrote: >It is true that NT4 does not support HPFS, but if you get the appropriate files from 3.51, >they will work perfectly well in 4. I suspect that MS decided that supporting HPFS was >an open admission that other operating systems exist. > Or a cheap reason to switch to NTFS... I guess I can read files fine on the other machine, which is all I care about now. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 03:08:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA20062 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 03:08:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04115; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:15:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:10:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03556; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:10:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03543; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:10:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p27.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.90]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA20658; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810250607.XAA20658@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "rj" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 24 Oct 98 22:08:54 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP701 with NT 4 List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:04:20 -0400 (EDT), rj wrote: >If you mean HPFS files I recall reading somewhere that NT4 could not >read them while NT3.51 could. As for FAT, there you stand a chance in >I recall RASing into an OS/2 network and actually getting something done >but it has been awile. Well, looks like it works now, but I need to figure out how to do it the other way around. Additionally, I'd like to make those drives local drive letters on the NT machine as well... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 03:14:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA20117 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 03:14:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04845; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:16:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04287; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:16:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04275; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p27.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.90]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA20876; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810250612.XAA20876@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "David Ross" , "rj" Cc: "Slip" , "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 24 Oct 98 22:14:01 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP701 with NT 4 List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:16:57 -0500, David Ross wrote: >>I agree IE4 works well but do not load Active Desktop > >Yes, I should have said this. IE4: good. Active Desktop: bad. > >BTW, one good thing about IE4 is that you can then install Outlook >Express, which is a terrible newsreader but a great mail program, >including support for simultaneous multiple servers and full IMAP 4 >compliance. > Any comments on Communicator? I'm using 4.04 for OS/2 now, and starting to use 4.5 on NT... (and if I upgrade Solaris, I'll use it for that too). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 04:52:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA20722 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 04:52:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA11327; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 04:52:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 04:48:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA11186; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 04:48:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (root@lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA11170; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 04:48:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from chipie (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id LAA14145 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:49:52 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199810250949.LAA14145@lohi.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 12:48:00 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <005701bdfeb8$17c584a0$0200000a@amdk6266> Subject: Re: Upgrade path's for the 701. X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.50 b48 List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 at 03:05 PM you, "Slip" , said: >I guess the next question is if anyone wants to buy a 8mb dimm for the >701? :-) I'm not sure what other models it will work on(anyone?), if any >but the 701c/s. Any offers? It's too small to bother with shipping, so >I'd pay shipping in US. How much are these things going for anyways? www.thechipmerchant.com sells a 32MB module for $61 and a 16MB module for $36 (I paid more than $600 for mine back in early '96 ...). I guess a used 8MB won't fetch more than $15. Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 09:42:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA22442 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:42:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23701; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:42:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:39:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23538; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:39:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.mv.net (root@mercury.mv.net [199.125.85.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23518; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:39:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from summit.msc.com (meisner.mv.com [207.22.43.6]) by mercury.mv.net (8.8.8/mem-971025) with SMTP id JAA00529 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:39:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from homer.msc.com by summit.msc.com (NTMail 3.02.07) with ESMTP id ka001622 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:38:44 -0500 From: "Steve Meisner" To: , Subject: RE: TP365 X, Win 98 and Standby Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:38:35 -0500 Message-ID: <001801be0025$25602340$3200a8c0@homer.msc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <199810241713.SAA01654@helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk> List-Unsubscribe: Just as another data point, I am experiencing the same problems trying to resume with my TP760ED -- black screen with the cursor blinking at me. And, yes, I too have the latest firmware, and did the Win98 installation according to the IBM instructions; step by step. I also had nothing running like MPEG player or any antivirus stuff. I have noticed that the system is alive though. I say this because I can always shut the system down using ctrl-esc, up arrow, return. (It's like shutting your system down with you eyes closed) The system always responds to this when I've got the black screen after resuming. Oh, and when encountering this problem, I don't have ANY PCMCIA cards installed. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Costas S. Iliopoulos [mailto:csi@dcs.kcl.ac.uk] Sent: Saturday, October 24, 1998 11:36 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP365 X, Win 98 and Standby Hi there I installed Win 98 in a 365X. I do not have FAT32. I have 40Mb memory and a 3com ethernet pc card. And I do have the latest bios. When Win98 went into standby, it refused to wakeup (despite 2+ keystrokes). Yeap, I waited 4-5 minutes....:-). A black screen with the cursor blinking in the top left corner. I have read the Thinkpad Win98 standby (loooong) list of problems but neither mpeg was playing, nor IBM anti-virus software was running when it went on standby. The only program running was the "scheduled tasks" one. Does anybody have any experience with the 365X going into standby/hibernation under win98? It suspect that the 3Com 3C589C ethernet card might be the problem....(the thinkpad info thing says that it takes few minutes for an ATA (?) pc card to re-install itself after a standby, but as I said I waited 5 minutes....!) I am not able to extensively test the 3com card theory due to another weird Win98 thing: I rebooted few times while testing the standby. Then win98 asked me "you run into trouble with standby, shall we turn the standby thing off?" (something like that). In a moment of weakness I answered "yes". Win98 then removed the two standby subholes (boxes?) of the "Power schemes" card of the "power management" in the control panel (it wiped them out, like they never existed). So there was no way of turning standby back on. Anyone knows how can I get them back ? I removed the thinkpad utilities and re-installed them but the above two subholes did not come back. Re-installing windoze 98 does the trick. Then I reinstalled win98 and the two subholes came back. It got stuck in standby again, and then I rebooted win98, and this time without asking me...!, win98 wiped the two "standby" subholes from the "power schemes" away... I saw somebody collecting info on bad 365X screens. We have three 365X's, they are sitting mostly on our desks, and we have gone through 12 systemboards (they seem to last about 3 months), and 2 screens in 18 months, the technicians said its a common problem....still under warranty.... Cheers Costas ______________________________________________________________________ Costas S. Iliopoulos Algorithm Design Group Tel: 44 (171) 873 2809 Dept of Computer Science Fax: 44 (171) 873 2851 King's College London Sec: 44 (171) 873 2588 Strand England http://www.dcs.kcl.ac.uk/staff/csi ______________________________________________________________________ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 11:05:03 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA23037 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:05:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25637; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:04:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:02:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25389; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:02:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25377; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:02:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA05348 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:02:27 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:02:27 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Upgrade path's for the 701. In-Reply-To: <199810250949.LAA14145@lohi.clinet.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, Dominique Pivard wrote: > www.thechipmerchant.com sells a 32MB module for $61 and a 16MB module for > $36 (I paid more than $600 for mine back in early '96 ...). I guess a used > 8MB won't fetch more than $15. Hmm, the price went up. They were $45/$26 a couple weeks ago. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 11:09:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA23063 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:09:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26042; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:08:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:06:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25886; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:06:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (imail@ha1.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25874; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:06:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from c137335-a ([24.2.197.152]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail v4.0 201-221) with SMTP id <19981025160644.SZPY15503.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@c137335-a>; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 08:06:44 -0800 From: "Scott A. Stratmoen" To: "Slip" , "rj" , "Paul Khoury" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: TP701 with NT 4 Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 10:06:46 -0600 Message-ID: <000001be0031$77c5c5c0$0101a8c0@c137335-a.mntp1.il.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <002c01bdffc6$82e81fe0$0200000a@amdk6266> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: >There is a hot fix for y2k for SP3 somewhere in the MS maze, but it is >suppose to be in SP4 when that hits the street and rumor has that it will >happen soon. I personally will wait until SP4 is avail. (I'm running >NT4.0SP3 on my 701 as well) and that is suppose to APM capabilities as >well. Are we sure about APM for NT4? As an experiment I loaded NT4 w/ SP3 on my 770. I spent about a week researching the 770's compatibility with NT. My conclusion was that if you needed to run NT on a notebook you can and for the most part the hardware is supported. On the other hand I couldn't find fine grain power management support. In fact Microsoft has stated in the past the if you want aggressive power management you are (stuck) with Win95/98. What I mean by aggressive is that if an application is not using a peripheral shut it down. In addition, on shutdown the HAL (hardware adaptation layer) doesn't support shutting the system down. This is because IBM didn't bother to generate a custom HAL for the 770. This is a nit, but be aware that Compaq did one for their systems. I came to the conclusion is that if you don't need to run NT4 and need to maximize battery life, use Win98 (and wait for NT5 where all of this is implemented). From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 11:19:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA23169 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:19:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26552; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:19:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:17:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26351; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:17:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (root@lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26338; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:17:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from chipie (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA02539 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 18:18:32 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199810251618.SAA02539@lohi.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 18:17:00 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Upgrade path's for the 701. X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.50 b48 List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 at 11:02 AM you, "John H. Kim" , said: >Hmm, the price went up. They were $45/$26 a couple weeks ago. -- Are you sure you're talking about the _TP701_ memory? I have been checking the price of the 32MB for the 701 on a regular basis and it has been stable at $61. The 16MB/32MB memory for other ThinkPads (760/365 etc.) is indeed $29/$48. Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 11:58:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA23422 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:58:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27685; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:57:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:52:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27298; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:52:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from chele.cais.net (rj@chele.cais.com [199.0.216.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27285; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:52:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rj@localhost) by chele.cais.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA00008; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:52:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:52:04 -0500 (EST) From: rj To: "Scott A. Stratmoen" cc: Slip , Paul Khoury , ThinkPad List Subject: RE: TP701 with NT 4 In-Reply-To: <000001be0031$77c5c5c0$0101a8c0@c137335-a.mntp1.il.home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Actually I'm not certain it will be in SP4, but I am certain it is not in SP3. On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, Scott A. Stratmoen wrote: > > > >There is a hot fix for y2k for SP3 somewhere in the MS maze, but it is > >suppose to be in SP4 when that hits the street and rumor has that it will > >happen soon. I personally will wait until SP4 is avail. (I'm running > >NT4.0SP3 on my 701 as well) and that is suppose to APM capabilities as > >well. > > Are we sure about APM for NT4? As an experiment I loaded NT4 w/ SP3 on my > 770. I spent about a week researching the 770's compatibility with NT. My > conclusion was that if you needed to run NT on a notebook you can and for > the most part the hardware is supported. On the other hand I couldn't find > fine grain power management support. In fact Microsoft has stated in the > past the if you want aggressive power management you are (stuck) with > Win95/98. What I mean by aggressive is that if an application is not using a > peripheral shut it down. In addition, on shutdown the HAL (hardware > adaptation layer) doesn't support shutting the system down. This is because > IBM didn't bother to generate a custom HAL for the 770. This is a nit, but > be aware that Compaq did one for their systems. > > I came to the conclusion is that if you don't need to run NT4 and need to > maximize battery life, use Win98 (and wait for NT5 where all of this is > implemented). > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 15:01:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA24730 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 15:01:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03567; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 15:01:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 14:58:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03400; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 14:58:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03383; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 14:58:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailstub@localhost) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id LAA05364; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:58:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199810251958.LAA05364@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> From: "Teresa Selling" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:58:05 +0000 Reply-To: "Teresa Selling" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Boot 770 from PCMCIA? List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone had any success booting from a PCMCIA ATA hard disk with a 770 thinkpad? I have setup the bios to boot from it. Formatted and added system files to the PCMCIA disk... but I get the insert floppy graphic... won't seem to recognize the pcmcia disk in the boot sequence. Any help appreciated. --- Teresa Selling E-Mail: tselling@ibm.net Colorado Springs, CO From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Oct 25 16:56:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA25573 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 16:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07407; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 16:55:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 25 Oct 1998 16:54:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07267; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 16:54:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from cyclops.xtra.co.nz (cyclops.xtra.co.nz [202.27.184.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07255; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 16:54:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from amlaptop (p21-m11-ch7.dialup.xtra.co.nz [203.96.106.85]) by cyclops.xtra.co.nz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA24049 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:53:58 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <004801be0061$c3629c80$3c6a60cb@amlaptop> From: "Andreas Michaelides" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: Reading CDR discs in a Thinkpad 600? Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:52:27 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I've got a 770 with the DVD drive and work with CDR's a lot in my job. My DVD can read all CDR's I've thrown at it. But sometimes if there are a few thick finger smuges on the CD it will reject it. This is more critical than with the normal pressed (silver) CD's, so try cleaning your CDR's. FYI, it also reads CDRW discs fine. Regards, Andreas!! :-) -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Haun To: bfm@pobox.com Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Saturday, October 24, 1998 5:56 am Subject: Re: Reading CDR discs in a Thinkpad 600? >Does your 600 have a DVD or CDRom drive? All the 600s I have used with CD-Rom >drives can read burned discs. > >Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] >IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center >Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 >Mobile: 919-260-1368 > > > >bfm@pobox.com on 10/23/98 11:58:39 AM >Please respond to bfm@pobox.com >To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >cc: >Subject: Reading CDR discs in a Thinkpad 600? > > >So far, I have been unable to read CDR media in my TP 600. Anybody out >there have any luck? > >Thanks in advance, > >-barry > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 26 01:02:17 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA02144 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 01:02:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21750; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 01:02:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 01:00:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21628; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 01:00:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (lucy.az.com [204.201.18.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21615; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 01:00:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp15-sally.atlantica.net (ppp15-sally.atlantica.net [206.63.195.79]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA06424 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 22:00:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <199810260600.WAA06424@www.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Sun, 25 Oct 98 23:12:14 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Reading CDR discs in a Thinkpad 600? List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:55:40 -0400, Barry F Margolius wrote: >So far, I have been unable to read CDR media in my TP 600. Anybody out >there have any luck? My ThinkPad 365XD has problems with CDR's as well. It will just sit there...spin and seek Stop. Spin and seek Stop. This will go on for a while. Then it'll come to a stop and I can access it. But it takes a while to access the information. And sometimes it'll just stop and say a file is unreadable. Since my TP is an older one and used, I just assumed it was the fact it was an older TP with a CD-Rom drive out of alignment. But yet I have no problems reading my Warp CD, Windows 95 CD or any other software CD. It's just the homemade CDR's that give me the problems. Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 26 02:02:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA02793 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 02:02:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23529; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 02:02:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 02:01:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23432; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 02:01:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.jps.net (smtp2.jps.net [209.63.224.235]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23410; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 02:01:24 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from jps.net (209-239-202-66.oak.jps.net [209.239.202.66]) by smtp2.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA03103 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 23:03:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36341E28.1F57BAF4@jps.net> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 23:00:56 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad List Subject: Thinkpad 701 and PCMCIA/cdrom Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I'm using Warp 3 and have the Features Diskette for DOS, Windows 3.1, Warp" from http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/BBOD-3K2N69.html and still have no clue as to what model I should select under selective install. I've tried several but there is no selection for the 701. There are selections for 350,360,500,510,720,750 and 755. I still can't get the CDROM to come up - the PCMCIA card shows up but nothing attached to it. I've installed the drivers that came with the Teac cdrom. Do I do both 1. Selective install the PCMCIA card as a hard drive and 2. Selective install the cdrom also? My choice for the cdrom is "unlisted ide cdrom". Can anyone help me out? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 26 11:03:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07014 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18818; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:02:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:58:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18384; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:58:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net ([147.225.51.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18370; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:57:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mosquito.ny.ans.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id KAA23758; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:57:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:57:38 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Komar X-Sender: bkomar@mosquito.ny.ans.net To: Slip cc: Thinkpad Mailing list Subject: Re: Upgrade path's for the 701. In-Reply-To: <003e01bdfe71$e0b28f80$0200000a@amdk6266> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > Bill's upgrade path for the 701, and that's a great deal Could you tell me more about this? I have a TP701C that I have tried to add add'l 16MB RAM (to 24MB) and upgrade to W95, but I can't seem to get around W95 constant "page faults". Yes, I did upgrade with the latest BIOS >from the IBM web site. Anyway, I haven't touched it for a few months now, but if you know of a workable upgrade path I'd be interested. If I succeed, I may then try to upgrade the HD, but one thing at a time. Thanks... Bruce On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Slip wrote: > Hey there! > I'm thinking of installing Linux on the laptop, so does anyone out there > have any small cheap HD's? They must be 12mm(this is the slim, right?), in > the range of around 4-500mb, and have the carrier for the 701. Linux doesn't > require much space at *all*. In any case, while I'm at it, where can I pick > up a 16mb dimm for the 701? I kick myself in the rear all the time because I > didn't buy a guy's 16megger that he had for 30buks. (in case you havn't > noticed, I'm gonna be swapping HD's) I have 16 now, but I'm sure Win95(on > original HD) would do much better with that additional 4meg. I know about > Bill's upgrade path for the 701, and that's a great deal, but right now I > have too many other expenses. If anyone out there has or can reccomend me to > a site, lemme know. I'm also interested in the DockII. Not so much in buying > one, but if it's worth it. If I could pick one up for 50buks or so, maybe > then. > Thanks. > -Jamie > > _________________________________________________________________________ Bruce Komar (914) 701-4875 bkomar@ans.net _________________________________________________________________________ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 26 11:32:12 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07426 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:32:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21059; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:30:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:28:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20831; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:28:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from snail.ecs.umass.edu (snail.ecs.umass.edu [128.119.91.94]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20794; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:28:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu (rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu [128.119.71.47]) by snail.ecs.umass.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA09624 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:27:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BE00D3.E8A80EE0@rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu>; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:29:35 -0500 Message-ID: <01BE00D3.E8A80EE0@rheoaxel.pse.umass.edu> From: Axel Hartmann To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: reading CD-I in DVD Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:29:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi all, I don't remember who mentioned it a little while ago, but someone said that DVD drives can read CD-I's. I didn't pay attention because I didn't have access to one, but a friend just got a Dell (what a brick, but it has everything! Just no Trackpoint...). I am in the possession of a "pure" CD-I, a CD Interactive with movie clips but not a file system. The Dell's DVD couldn't read the disk, and neither can any of the diverse CD readers I've seen. There are CD-I's that have the movie as an MPEG in a file system that PCs can read, and those work just like any CD-ROM. But, as I feared, DVDs can't read pure CD-I's. I have yet to see anything on that CD-I... For what it's worth, there is one person who could have helped me, but I've lost contact to him. He found out that the CD-I players are OS-9 based, and any piece of hardware can bring along its own driver in ROM, so he patched an ethernet card into the box and had it running on his (extensive) home network. Cool... PS: it is not productivity enhancing to have DVD Star Trek movies playing in the office next door... axel ............................................................................ . Axel Hartmann . . Paper'n'People : 33 Meadow Street; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . . Voice : +1 (413) 549 - 6113 , Fax on demand . ............................................................................ . Office : Dept. of Chemical Engineering; UMass; Amherst, MA 01003 . . Office Phone : +1 (413) 577 - 1235 Fax: +1 (413) 545 - 1649 . . E-Mail : axhartma@risky.ecs.umass.edu . . Homepage : http://rheoserver.pse.umass.edu/users/axel/index.html . ............................................................................ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 26 13:03:44 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA08694 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:03:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19222; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:05:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:04:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18997; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:04:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from coral.binevolve.com ([209.68.192.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18897; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:03:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from binevolve.com (dt0c1nb6.san.rr.com [204.210.53.182]) by coral.binevolve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15468 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:03:51 -0800 Sender: tdarugar@coral.binevolve.com Message-ID: <36349D8F.84273E1D@binevolve.com> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:04:31 -0800 From: Parand Tony Darugar X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.34 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: Re: Reading CDR discs in a Thinkpad 600? References: <199810260600.WAA06424@www.az.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, My thinkpad 600 arrived 2 days ago and has read all 5 or 6 CDR's I've tried without any problems. Best, Tony Darugar http://www.BinaryEvolution.com/ Did you miss us at Internet World 98? Catch the WebDeveloper interview at: http://stream.internet.com/Content/velocigen.ram From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 26 13:47:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09431 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:47:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00801; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:46:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:42:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00428; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:42:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAF ([149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00352; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:41:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:41:15 -0500 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-1.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id NAA14068; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:38:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3634C1BE.6EF910BE@csc.com> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:38:54 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TPALL: NT vs. 95? References: <199810232351.QAA17341@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I didn't mean that you couldn't run TCP/IP too, just that you should use NetBEUI as the protocol for connecting your PCs across the LAN. I have TCP/IP on my desktops and laptops, and have made them talk to each other with it across a LAN, but I also add NetBEUI because is much less finicky for PC-to-PC connections. You can set up the individual PCs with TCP/IP settings for their main network or dial-up settings and not worry that those settings are compatible with the other PCs on your LAN because the NetBEUI will just work. If you use non-Microsoft operating systems then I can't really offer advice about protocols since I'm not familiar with them. I'm not going to say more about NT vs. 95 other than that 95 can use less-capable hardware better than NT. If you're concerned about security and usability, many other requirements and issues need to be considered in the decision process. HTH, Rob ----------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob_bell@nospam@csi.com ----------------------------------------- Paul Khoury wrote: > > But the problem also is that TCP/IP is REQUIRED, because I have OS/2 mainly, > and I have a SPARC that I can only talk to through TCP/IP. Plus, how would the user > access the internet or intranet without TCP/IP? > > The reason I considered NT is because I have it laying around here (4.0), and > thought it would be more secure than 95, even if it's just for home use. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 26 14:04:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA09660 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02082; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:03:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:02:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01918; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:02:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAD ([149.174.183.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01876; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:02:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:01:26 -0500 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-1.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id OAA21230; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:00:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3634C58A.AAA55250@csc.com> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:55:06 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Teresa Selling CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Boot 770 from PCMCIA? References: <199810251958.LAA05364@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Did you remove the main hard drive from it's bay? I've found that I get the same error message that you did when attempting to boot from a hard disk in the UltraBay if the main hard drive isn't where it's supposed to be. Doesn't seem to make sense (since the UltraBay disk is bootable and works fine when booted with the main hard drive in place), but who knows? Must be a hardware thing... HTH, Rob ----------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob_bell@nospam@csi.com ----------------------------------------- Teresa Selling wrote: > > Has anyone had any success booting from a PCMCIA ATA > hard disk with a 770 thinkpad? I have setup the bios to > boot from it. Formatted and added system files to the > PCMCIA disk... but I get the insert floppy graphic... won't > seem to recognize the pcmcia disk in the boot sequence. > Any help appreciated. > > --- > Teresa Selling E-Mail: tselling@ibm.net > Colorado Springs, CO From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 26 14:08:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA09721 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:08:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02460; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:07:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:06:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02367; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:06:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from challenge.e-net.com ([204.95.186.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02343; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:06:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from csc.com by challenge.e-net.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/940406.SGI.AUTO) id NAA27040; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:07:58 -0600 Message-ID: <3634C84B.4B129E18@csc.com> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:06:51 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP701 with NT 4 References: <199810250607.XAA20658@ritchie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul Khoury wrote: > > Additionally, I'd like to make those drives local drive letters on the NT machine > as well... > To get local drive letters for those remote drives, go into Windows Explorer and choose Tools..Map Network Drive. Enter the name of the target machine and share (\\Machine\ShareName) and choose whether or not to have it automatically reconnect at logon. You can also specify the drive letter. You must have permission on the target machine in order to do this. HTH, Rob ----------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob_bell@nospam@csi.com ----------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 26 14:10:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA09760 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:10:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02774; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:10:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:09:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02671; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:09:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02625; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:09:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from eeuva.ee.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa09149; 26 Oct 98 14:09 EST Received: (from cyj9h@localhost) by eeuva.ee.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) id OAA26931; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:09:04 -0500 (EST) From: Temp for repeated mail attempts Message-Id: <199810261909.OAA26931@eeuva.ee.Virginia.EDU> Subject: Re: Boot 770 from PCMCIA? To: Rob Bell Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:09:04 -0500 (EST) Cc: tselling@earthlink.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3634C58A.AAA55250@csc.com> from "Rob Bell" at Oct 26, 98 12:55:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Please remove cyj9h@virginia.edu or cyj9h@csis2.ee.virginia.edu from your mailing list. > > Did you remove the main hard drive from it's bay? I've found that I get > the same error message that you did when attempting to boot from a hard > disk in the UltraBay if the main hard drive isn't where it's supposed to > be. Doesn't seem to make sense (since the UltraBay disk is bootable and > works fine when booted with the main hard drive in place), but who > knows? Must be a hardware thing... > > HTH, > Rob > > ----------------------------------------- > Rob Bell > Senior Consultant, CPD Professional > CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN > rob_bell@nospam@csi.com > ----------------------------------------- > > Teresa Selling wrote: > > > > Has anyone had any success booting from a PCMCIA ATA > > hard disk with a 770 thinkpad? I have setup the bios to > > boot from it. Formatted and added system files to the > > PCMCIA disk... but I get the insert floppy graphic... won't > > seem to recognize the pcmcia disk in the boot sequence. > > Any help appreciated. > > > > --- > > Teresa Selling E-Mail: tselling@ibm.net > > Colorado Springs, CO > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 26 17:35:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA13167 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:35:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14728; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:34:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:27:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14283; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:27:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailbox.uq.edu.au (root@dingo.cc.uq.edu.au [130.102.2.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14260; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:27:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from cadaver89.anatomy.uq.edu.au ([130.102.138.89]) by mailbox.uq.edu.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA11860 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:26:18 +1000 (GMT+1000) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:26:18 +1000 (GMT+1000) Message-Id: <199810262226.IAA11860@mailbox.uq.edu.au> X-Sender: andpaul@dingo.uq.edu.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Darren J. Paul" Subject: The never ending story (ie phantom floppy drive) List-Unsubscribe: Hi Everyone, Thanks to all that offered advice on my floppy drive problem. Well, I tried everyone's suggestions, and some ideas of my own, and the problem still remains. There are no relevant entries in my registry for a:, retry, floppy, disk, drive, run, runonce, etc. My recent, pif, documents and recycled folders have been deleted and recreated. There are no shortcuts or "run" menu entries to a:. Removing background programs (down to the bare windows shell) has no effect. And so it goes...... I have noticed that if I try to access my cd or my LS120 when there are no disks in them I immediately (instantly) get a drive not ready dialog. But for the a: drive this sometimes takes up to a minute or more. Now it strikes me that my problem could be Explorer going about its normal business, checking drives at odd times (who knows with Microsoft), and the freezes may be explorer waiting for a reply from drive a: What is it that controls the retry interval for the disk drives? If I can get the FDD to respond instantly, then the problem may vanish into the normal background of operations. Any ideas? Thanks again people. Your comments are most appreciated. Darren J. Paul P.S. If I can't work this out soon, I may be posting another message detailing the impact resistance of Thinkpad 760XLs with walls!! P.P.S. My 760 now also has the latest bios. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 26 17:42:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA13259 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:42:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15254; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:42:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:39:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15110; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:39:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from illustrious (illustrious.concentric.net [207.155.252.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15098; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:39:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from earlbrya (209-142-10-49.stk.inreach.net [209.142.10.49]) by illustrious (8.9.1/) id RAA24864; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:39:19 -0500 (EST) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay] Message-ID: <199810262239.RAA24864@illustrious> From: "Love and Jones Webmaster" Organization: Love and Jones Paralegal...The law is on yo To: "Darren J. Paul" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:39:32 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: The never ending story (ie phantom floppy drive) Priority: normal In-reply-to: <199810262226.IAA11860@mailbox.uq.edu.au> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: I had a similar problem with my 755CD. Whenever I attempted to use MS Outlook, it would occasionally access A: drive, and freeze up the system until it stopped. After a few minutes, it would do it again. I finally went to the section where you could save "journal" entries (actually, indications of the location of files created from or in Outlook), and deleted all references to these files (I had just bought the machine from another person, and therefore did not need these files or "journal entries". This alleviated my accessing problem. What program are you using when this crops up most? Are there programs where recently opened files are in the a: drive? Clearing these may be of help. Earl > Hi Everyone, > > Thanks to all that offered advice on my floppy drive problem. Well, I > tried everyone's suggestions, and some ideas of my own, and the problem > still remains. > > There are no relevant entries in my registry for a:, retry, floppy, disk, > drive, run, runonce, etc. My recent, pif, documents and recycled folders > have been deleted and recreated. There are no shortcuts or "run" menu > entries to a:. Removing background programs (down to the bare windows > shell) has no effect. And so it goes...... > > I have noticed that if I try to access my cd or my LS120 when there are no > disks in them I immediately (instantly) get a drive not ready dialog. But > for the a: drive this sometimes takes up to a minute or more. Now it > strikes me that my problem could be Explorer going about its normal > business, checking drives at odd times (who knows with Microsoft), and the > freezes may be explorer waiting for a reply from drive a: > > What is it that controls the retry interval for the disk drives? If I can > get the FDD to respond instantly, then the problem may vanish into the > normal background of operations. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks again people. Your comments are most appreciated. > > Darren J. Paul > > P.S. If I can't work this out soon, I may be posting another message > detailing the impact resistance of Thinkpad 760XLs with walls!! > > P.P.S. My 760 now also has the latest bios. > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 26 18:19:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA14092 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:19:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16842; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:18:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:17:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16695; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:17:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.jud.ca.gov (mx.jud.ca.gov [208.239.204.222]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16681; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:17:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (host-220.jud.ca.gov [208.239.204.220] (may be forged)) by mx.jud.ca.gov (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA23918 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:14:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 0007D0B8; Mon, 26 Oct 98 15:19:30 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:11:57 -0800 Message-ID: <0007D0B8.001225@jud.ca.gov> From: Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) Subject: Free manuals To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part List-Unsubscribe: Free to the next lucky home: 1 set of manuals for an IBM Thinkpad 360/360Cs/360C Includes the Product Map, User's Guide, Pre-Installed Software packet, Accesory Packet. Heck, I'll even throw in a Dock I manual. Note: The 360 series was my first brush with Thinkpads way back in 1993 or so. Although we've given away all of the 360s (so don't even ask) and accessories, I found a complete set of mostly sealed manuals. I'd appreciate $4.00 for the postage. NO, NO, NO, the manuals are going to be given away as one set. Take them all, please. Mitchell mitchell_yee@jud.ca.gov From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 26 19:14:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA14911 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:14:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18997; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:14:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:13:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18882; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:13:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.mi.verio.com (newmail.mi.verio.com [209.69.71.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18870; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:13:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from billb (66-139.pop.fh.gle.verio.com [209.69.66.139]) by mail.mi.verio.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA07068 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:06:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981026191258.007c3290@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:12:58 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: FRU's Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I've been reading over the IBM service manual on the 701C and I keep running across a term that I have not figured out yet. What is a FRU? The manual keeps repeating "Do not replace a nondefective FRU". B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 26 19:20:43 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA15005 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:20:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19481; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:20:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:19:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19311; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:19:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailbox.uq.edu.au (root@dingo.cc.uq.edu.au [130.102.2.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19297; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:19:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from cadaver89.anatomy.uq.edu.au ([130.102.138.89]) by mailbox.uq.edu.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA18120 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:44:09 +1000 (GMT+1000) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:44:09 +1000 (GMT+1000) Message-Id: <199810262344.JAA18120@mailbox.uq.edu.au> X-Sender: andpaul@dingo.uq.edu.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Darren J. Paul" Subject: Re: The never ending story (ie phantom floppy drive) List-Unsubscribe: Thanks for the suggestion. I have Office 97 but do not have Outlook installed. The program at fault appears to be Windows Explorer itself (or other file managers that use the same calls, such as PowerDesk). It occurs with nearly every file level manipulation. Repeated (successive) freezes of 30 seconds or more each are common. The problem is eased but not eliminated by connecting the FDD; the response delay appears shorter when the drive unit is actually buzzed. Regards, Darren J. Paul At 02:39 PM 10/26/98 +0800, you wrote: >I had a similar problem with my 755CD. > >Whenever I attempted to use MS Outlook, it would occasionally >access A: drive, and freeze up the system until it stopped. After a few >minutes, it would do it again. > >I finally went to the section where you could save "journal" entries >(actually, indications of the location of files created from or in >Outlook), and deleted all references to these files (I had just bought >the machine from another person, and therefore did not need these >files or "journal entries". This alleviated my accessing problem. > >What program are you using when this crops up most? Are there >programs where recently opened files are in the a: drive? Clearing >these may be of help. > >Earl > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 26 19:29:05 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA15226 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:29:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20183; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:28:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:28:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20082; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:28:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.noc.netcom.net (mail1.noc.netcom.net [204.31.1.150]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20069; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:28:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from denver.servicemetrics.com (denver.servicemetrics.com [207.221.189.100]) by mail1.noc.netcom.net (8.9.1/8.9.1/(NETCOM v2.00)) with SMTP id QAA29175; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:27:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssh by denver.servicemetrics.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA14881; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:24:52 -0700 From: "Steve Hultquist" To: "Bill Bryan" , Subject: RE: FRU's Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:28:57 -0700 Message-ID: <002d01be0140$c9430560$51bdddcf@ssh.servicemetrics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981026191258.007c3290@rust.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 List-Unsubscribe: Field Replaceable Unit. IBM-speak ssh (12-year veteran of IBM) >-----Original Message----- >From: Bill Bryan [mailto:billb@rust.net] >Sent: Monday, October 26, 1998 5:13 PM >To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: FRU's > > >I've been reading over the IBM service manual on the 701C and I keep >running across a term that I have not figured out yet. What is a FRU? The >manual keeps repeating "Do not replace a nondefective FRU". > > >B/B >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI > "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 26 19:31:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA15307 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:31:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19928; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:25:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:25:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19839; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:25:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from rocky-out.summa4.com ([208.7.172.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19812; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:25:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hal.summa4.com by rocky-out.summa4.com via smtpd (for CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) with SMTP; 27 Oct 1998 00:25:01 UT Received: from localhost (kend@localhost) by hal.summa4.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA05419; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:25:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: hal.summa4.com: kend owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:25:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" X-Sender: kend@hal Reply-To: "Ken D'Ambrosio" To: Bill Bryan cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: FRU's In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981026191258.007c3290@rust.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: FRU=Field Replacable Unit. In other words, something that can be fixed in the field or, perhaps, by a customer. Ken On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Bill Bryan wrote: > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:12:58 -0500 > From: Bill Bryan > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: FRU's > > I've been reading over the IBM service manual on the 701C and I keep > running across a term that I have not figured out yet. What is a FRU? The > manual keeps repeating "Do not replace a nondefective FRU". > > > B/B > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI > "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Oct 26 19:47:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA15504 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:47:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21205; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:44:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:44:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21095; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:44:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.3.78]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21071; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from earth (hseaman@earth.execpc.com [169.207.16.1]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.9.0) id SAA25666; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:43:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:45:15 -0600 (CST) From: Harry Seaman X-Sender: hseaman@earth To: "Darren J. Paul" cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: The never ending story (ie phantom floppy drive) In-Reply-To: <199810262226.IAA11860@mailbox.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: This may or not address your problem, but... To get my ls 120 to work in my desktop unit, I had to change a bios setting that went something like, "tell win 95 A: drive is always present" >from yes to no. Maybe that's what you need to do. However, after getting the ls 120 to be recognized, I still have this problem: reading 1.44 floppies on the ls 120, I can't read a file written on the 1.44 drive of another computer, and vice versa. Anyone else run into that problem? best regards, harry seaman On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Darren J. Paul wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Thanks to all that offered advice on my floppy drive problem. Well, I tried > everyone's suggestions, and some ideas of my own, and the problem still remains. > > There are no relevant entries in my registry for a:, retry, floppy, disk, > drive, run, runonce, etc. My recent, pif, documents and recycled folders > have been deleted and recreated. There are no shortcuts or "run" menu > entries to a:. Removing background programs (down to the bare windows shell) > has no effect. And so it goes...... > > I have noticed that if I try to access my cd or my LS120 when there are no > disks in them I immediately (instantly) get a drive not ready dialog. But > for the a: drive this sometimes takes up to a minute or more. Now it > strikes me that my problem could be Explorer going about its normal > business, checking drives at odd times (who knows with Microsoft), and the > freezes may be explorer waiting for a reply from drive a: > > What is it that controls the retry interval for the disk drives? If I can > get the FDD to respond instantly, then the problem may vanish into the > normal background of operations. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks again people. Your comments are most appreciated. > > Darren J. Paul > > P.S. If I can't work this out soon, I may be posting another message > detailing the impact resistance of Thinkpad 760XLs with walls!! > > P.P.S. My 760 now also has the latest bios. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 27 00:57:11 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA19638 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01078; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:56:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:55:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00910; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:55:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from coral.binevolve.com (www.binevolve.com [209.68.192.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00898; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:55:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from binevolve.com (dt0c1nb6.san.rr.com [204.210.53.182]) by coral.binevolve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA20423; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:55:27 -0800 Sender: tdarugar@coral.binevolve.com Message-ID: <363560E7.23D9D5D2@binevolve.com> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:58:01 -0800 From: Parand Tony Darugar X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Linux Sound driver for TP600 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Dear Alexander, I download the ALSA drivers and compiled and installed them. However, when I get to the /sbin/modprobe snd-card-cs4236 step I get: /lib/modules/2.0.35/misc/snd-card-cs4236.o: init_module: Device or resource busy snd-pcm: Device or resource busy This is on Redhat 5.1. I have SB support compiled into the kernel; could that be causing the problem? Could you post your /usr/src/linux/.config file so I can see how you have things set up? Best, Tony > yesterday I played around with sound driver on my linux-based TP600. It seems > that there are lots of people out ther who don't have sound running on their > TP600s, because the OSS Lite driver distribution doesn't support the TP600's > CS4237b out of the box, only the SB emulation works. So you either spend > money on the commercial version of the OSS package (www.4front-tech.com) or > use the SB emulation mode. > > The ALSA programmers group have developed an Alternative Linux Sound > Architecture. Their driver is free and supports the CS4237b directly. You can > download it from > > http://alsa.jcu.cz > > Installing instructions for the TP600 are on Raph Levien's page > (http://www.levien.com/tp600.html). It works great and installing is simple. > > Be sure to download, the driver (I use 0.2.0pre8), the libraries, and the > utilities (they contain a mixer). Installing was really easy. Although the > archives are source packages and not RPM, you need hardly do more than > "./configure ; make ; make install". > > Have a great weekend, > > Alexander > > -- > Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de > http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ > > Never trust a HAL 9000. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 27 02:08:49 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA20531 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:08:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03152; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:08:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:07:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03068; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:07:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03056; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:07:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p18.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.81]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA08686 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:05:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199810270705.XAA08686@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Mon, 26 Oct 98 23:06:35 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Recycling batteries? List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone know of a company that can put new cells into existing batteries that don't hold a charge? The battery that came with my most recent 701 is now completely dead, and before, it only lasted 30 minutes at the most! I would really like to have 3 batteries, since the other machine is docked for the time being. Thanks. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 27 03:22:39 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA21160 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 03:22:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06394; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 03:22:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 03:21:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06294; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 03:21:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall.hd.ibm.de (firewall.hd.ibm.de [192.101.197.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06281; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 03:21:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com by firewall.hd.ibm.de (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03/TWS 4.03.3-cherub) id AA48514; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:19:17 +0100 Received: from pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com (pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com [9.228.3.110]) by mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.4-mailserver) with ESMTP id JAA20666; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:20:10 +0100 (MEZ) Received: (from krumeich@localhost) by pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.2-pool) id JAA89820; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:20:08 +0100 (MEZ) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:20:08 +0100 (MEZ) From: Alexander Krumeich Reply-To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de To: Parand Tony Darugar Cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Linux Sound driver for TP600 In-Reply-To: <363560E7.23D9D5D2@binevolve.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Dear Tony, > I download the ALSA drivers and compiled and installed them. However, > when I get to the /sbin/modprobe snd-card-cs4236 step I get: > /lib/modules/2.0.35/misc/snd-card-cs4236.o: init_module: Device or resource busy > snd-pcm: Device or resource busy > > This is on Redhat 5.1. I have SB support compiled into the kernel; could > that be causing the problem? You need a running kernel with no sound support compiled into it. > Could you post your /usr/src/linux/.config file so I can see how you > have things set up? Of course. Enjoy it! It's certainly not the mother of all .config files, but it works with all of the stuff I need. Later, Alexander # # Automatically generated by make menuconfig: don't edit # # # Code maturity level options # CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y # # Loadable module support # CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y CONFIG_KERNELD=y # # General setup # CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION=y CONFIG_NET=y # CONFIG_MAX_16M is not set CONFIG_PCI=y # CONFIG_PCI_OPTIMIZE is not set CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y # CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT is not set CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y # CONFIG_BINFMT_JAVA is not set CONFIG_KERNEL_ELF=y # CONFIG_M386 is not set # CONFIG_M486 is not set CONFIG_M586=y # CONFIG_M686 is not set # # Floppy, IDE, and other block devices # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_PCMCIA=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640 is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RZ1000 is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_TRITON=y # CONFIG_IDE_CHIPSETS is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set # # Networking options # # CONFIG_FIREWALL is not set CONFIG_NET_ALIAS=y CONFIG_INET=y CONFIG_IP_FORWARD=y CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST=y CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES=y CONFIG_IP_ACCT=y # CONFIG_IP_ROUTER is not set CONFIG_NET_IPIP=m # CONFIG_IP_MROUTE is not set CONFIG_IP_ALIAS=m # CONFIG_INET_PCTCP is not set CONFIG_INET_RARP=m # CONFIG_NO_PATH_MTU_DISCOVERY is not set CONFIG_IP_NOSR=y CONFIG_SKB_LARGE=y # CONFIG_IPX is not set # CONFIG_ATALK is not set # CONFIG_AX25 is not set # CONFIG_BRIDGE is not set # CONFIG_NETLINK is not set # # SCSI support # # CONFIG_SCSI is not set # # Network device support # CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y CONFIG_DUMMY=y CONFIG_EQUALIZER=m # CONFIG_DLCI is not set CONFIG_PLIP=m CONFIG_PPP=m CONFIG_SLIP=m CONFIG_SLIP_COMPRESSED=y CONFIG_SLIP_SMART=y # CONFIG_SLIP_MODE_SLIP6 is not set # CONFIG_NET_RADIO is not set CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET=y # CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_3COM is not set # CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_SMC is not set # CONFIG_NET_PCI is not set # CONFIG_NET_ISA is not set # CONFIG_NET_EISA is not set # CONFIG_NET_POCKET is not set # CONFIG_TR is not set # CONFIG_FDDI is not set # CONFIG_ARCNET is not set # # ISDN subsystem # # CONFIG_ISDN is not set # # CD-ROM drivers (not for SCSI or IDE/ATAPI drives) # # CONFIG_CD_NO_IDESCSI is not set # # Filesystems # CONFIG_QUOTA=y CONFIG_MINIX_FS=m # CONFIG_EXT_FS is not set CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y # CONFIG_XIA_FS is not set CONFIG_NLS=y CONFIG_ISO9660_FS=y CONFIG_FAT_FS=y CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=y # CONFIG_UMSDOS_FS is not set CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_437=m CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_737=m CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_775=m CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_850=m CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_852=m CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_855=m CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_857=m CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_860=m CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_861=m CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_862=m CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_863=m CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_864=m CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_865=m CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_866=m CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_869=m CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_874=m CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_1=m CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_2=m CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_3=m CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_4=m CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_5=m CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_6=m CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_7=m CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_8=m CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_9=m CONFIG_NLS_KOI8_R=m CONFIG_PROC_FS=y CONFIG_NFS_FS=m CONFIG_SMB_FS=m CONFIG_SMB_WIN95=y # CONFIG_HPFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_SYSV_FS is not set # CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_UFS_FS is not set # # Character devices # CONFIG_SERIAL=y # CONFIG_DIGI is not set # CONFIG_CYCLADES is not set # CONFIG_STALDRV is not set # CONFIG_RISCOM8 is not set CONFIG_PRINTER=m # CONFIG_SPECIALIX is not set CONFIG_MOUSE=y # CONFIG_ATIXL_BUSMOUSE is not set # CONFIG_BUSMOUSE is not set # CONFIG_MS_BUSMOUSE is not set CONFIG_PSMOUSE=y # CONFIG_82C710_MOUSE is not set # CONFIG_UMISC is not set # CONFIG_QIC02_TAPE is not set # CONFIG_FTAPE is not set CONFIG_APM=y # CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND is not set CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE=y CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE=y CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK=y CONFIG_APM_POWER_OFF=y CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_MULTIPLE_SUSPEND=y # CONFIG_WATCHDOG is not set CONFIG_RTC=y # # Sound # # CONFIG_SOUND is not set # # Kernel hacking # # CONFIG_PROFILE is not set -- Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ Never trust a HAL 9000. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 27 06:49:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA22688 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 06:49:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16996; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 06:49:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 06:48:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16867; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 06:48:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16855; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 06:48:07 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from JES770@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id CLKJa02083 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 06:47:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <5186ee2b.3635b2c5@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 06:47:17 EST To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: 770 UltraBay II & Iomega Internal ZIP Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 List-Unsubscribe: Last week I purchased an Iomega Internal ZIP drive for me 770 and noticed that it wasn't completely compatible. It works well, including all the right-click ZIP Tools options; however, the UltraBay icon in the Systray and the UltraBay animation DON'T function properly. Mainly they don't indicate the presence of the ZIP when it's installed. I posted a question about this in several logical newsgroups, etc. Today I received this response from IBM: "Iomega is not a ThinkPad Proven vendor and the drivers, etc., would come from Iomega." One would think that the OEM for a product would be IBM Proven. Guess not... If anyone is considering getting an internal ZIP, recommend you get the VST ZIP, since it is IBM proven. John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 27 07:03:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA22782 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:03:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17558; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:02:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:00:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17415; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:00:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall.hd.ibm.de (firewall.hd.ibm.de [192.101.197.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17402; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:00:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com by firewall.hd.ibm.de (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03/TWS 4.03.3-cherub) id AA50340; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:59:16 +0100 Received: from pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com (pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com [9.228.3.110]) by mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.4-mailserver) with ESMTP id NAA52300 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:00:11 +0100 (MEZ) Received: (from krumeich@localhost) by pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.2-pool) id NAA17106; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:00:09 +0100 (MEZ) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:00:09 +0100 (MEZ) From: Alexander Krumeich Reply-To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Linux Sound driver for TP600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Tony, > I download the ALSA drivers and compiled and installed them. However, > when I get to the /sbin/modprobe snd-card-cs4236 step I get: > /lib/modules/2.0.35/misc/snd-card-cs4236.o: init_module: Device or resource busy > snd-pcm: Device or resource busy > > This is on Redhat 5.1. I have SB support compiled into the kernel; could > that be causing the problem? You need a running kernel with no sound support compiled into it. > Could you post your /usr/src/linux/.config file so I can see how you > have things set up? Of course. Enjoy it! It's certainly not the mother of all .config files, but it works with all of the stuff I need. (the original mail to Tony contained my .config file. I didn't want to clutter the list, so to whom it concerns, see http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/linux-on-tp600.html for details. I have decided to put together yet another ``Linux on TP 600'' page. See if you like it!) Later, Alexander -- Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ Never trust a HAL 9000. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 27 09:45:24 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA24131 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:45:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23919; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:44:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:43:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23801; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:43:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23788; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:43:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA40232; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:25:40 -0500 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms05.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.197]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA34684; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:38:55 -0500 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU031 id 5040500021783690; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:41:02 -0500 From: Christopher Haun To: Cc: Subject: Re: 770 UltraBay II & Iomega Internal ZIP Message-ID: <5040500021783690000002L002*@MHS> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:41:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: You might try updating, the BIOS and the UltraBay driver. Both are available @ http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3PGT93.html Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 JES770@aol.com on 10/27/98 07:08:37 AM Please respond to JES770@aol.com To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: 770 UltraBay II & Iomega Internal ZIP Last week I purchased an Iomega Internal ZIP drive for me 770 and noticed that it wasn't completely compatible. It works well, including all the right-click ZIP Tools options; however, the UltraBay icon in the Systray and the UltraBay animation DON'T function properly. Mainly they don't indicate the presence of the ZIP when it's installed. I posted a question about this in several logical newsgroups, etc. Today I received this response from IBM: "Iomega is not a ThinkPad Proven vendor and the drivers, etc., would come from Iomega." One would think that the OEM for a product would be IBM Proven. Guess not... If anyone is considering getting an internal ZIP, recommend you get the VST ZIP, since it is IBM proven. John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 27 11:22:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA25244 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:22:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28546; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:19:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:18:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28336; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:18:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (uhbhic.uhb.fr [192.134.240.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28323; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from nfwenaxa (cb1343.uhb.fr [192.134.240.32]) by uhbhic.uhb.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with SMTP id RAA05724 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:17:14 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3635F2A3.5CE2@uhb.fr> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:19:47 +0100 From: Sylvestre Meininger Reply-To: sylvestre.meininger@Uhb.Fr X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: (770ED) Modem Update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi everyone. I just downloaded and installed IBM's 2.36 Modem (770ED) drivers, but connections are now stuck at a lousy 33.600. I'm used to my nice 115.000, what became of them ??? I looked in Control Panel\Modem, everything looks normal. Any idea ? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 27 11:27:33 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA25300 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:27:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28959; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:26:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:25:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28827; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:25:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28815; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:25:27 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from JES770@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3WDBa19214; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:21:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <209e8fe9.3635f302@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:21:22 EST To: chaun@us.ibm.com Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: 770 UltraBay II & Iomega Internal ZIP Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 List-Unsubscribe: Thanks Chris, I had already installed all the current BIOS and drive upgrades. At least the ZIP works OK. John Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] wrote: > You might try updating, the BIOS and the UltraBay driver. > Both are available @ http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3PGT93.html > > Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] > IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center > Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 > Mobile: 919-260-1368 > > > > JES770@aol.com on 10/27/98 07:08:37 AM > Please respond to JES770@aol.com > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > cc: > Subject: 770 UltraBay II & Iomega Internal ZIP > > > Last week I purchased an Iomega Internal ZIP drive for me > 770 and noticed that it wasn't completely compatible. It > works well, including all the right-click ZIP Tools options; > however, the UltraBay icon in the Systray and the UltraBay > animation DON'T function properly. Mainly they don't indicate > the presence of the ZIP when it's installed. > > I posted a question about this in several logical newsgroups, etc. > Today I received this response from IBM: > > "Iomega is not a ThinkPad Proven vendor and the drivers, etc., > would come from Iomega." > > One would think that the OEM for a product would be IBM > Proven. Guess not... > > If anyone is considering getting an internal ZIP, recommend > you get the VST ZIP, since it is IBM proven. > > John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 27 11:31:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA25368 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:31:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29190; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:28:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:28:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29076; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:28:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from send104.yahoomail.com (send104.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.122]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29064; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:28:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981027163138.21921.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> Received: from [38.27.219.186] by send104.yahoomail.com; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:31:38 PST Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:31:38 -0800 (PST) From: Gayle Mills Subject: ThinkPad 760ED Question To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I wanted to know if the ThinkPad 760ED can do 16 millions colors on the LCD screen? Thanks, Gayle _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 27 12:22:58 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA26138 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:22:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01940; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:15:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:08:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01453; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:08:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01427; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA01305 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:07:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:07:31 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: (770ED) Modem Update In-Reply-To: <3635F2A3.5CE2@uhb.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Sylvestre Meininger wrote: > > I just downloaded and installed IBM's 2.36 Modem (770ED) drivers, but > connections are now stuck at a lousy 33.600. > > I'm used to my nice 115.000, what became of them ??? There are two connection speeds when dealing with modems. The first is the modem's connection speed to the other modem, which is currently limited by technology to 56 kbps. Often, even a 56k modem will connect at a slower speed due to line noise, singla loss, etc. The second is the computer's connection speed to the modem, which peaks at 115 kbps with current (standard) serial ports. In general, you *want* this speed to be faster than the modem's connect speed, since the modem may be doing hardware data de/compression (so 56 kbps data goes into the modem, and 115 kbps data goes out to your computer). By giving the modem an appropriate AT string, you can customize the modem to report either speed when it connects. Since it's physically impossible for a telephone modem to connect at 115 kbps, my guess is that your modem used to report its connect speed to your computer, and it now reports its true connect speed. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 27 12:39:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA26403 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:39:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03433; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:37:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:35:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03216; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:35:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from docws007.shl.com (docws007.shl.com [159.249.56.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03202; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:35:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgymscoc02.shl.com ([159.249.92.3]) by docws007.shl.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA138610 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:41:42 -0600 Received: by cgymscoc02.shl.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BE0195.8BC4D4C0@cgymscoc02.shl.com>; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:35:41 -0700 Message-ID: From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: "'thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU'" , "'Darren J. Paul '" Subject: RE: The never ending story (ie phantom floppy drive) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:35:01 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Just maybe it's hardware? An ambiguous signal? Ciao,Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect Ottawa Global Delivery Centre, SHL Systemhouse an MCI Company :^(+1 613 236-6604x5539 fax:232-5182:^( :^} ttrottier@shl.com http://www.shl.com :^} *:)50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada*:) ~Questions answered, answers questioned~ ---------- From: Darren J. Paul [SMTP:D.Paul@mailbox.uq.edu.au] Sent: 1998 October 26 - Monday 17:26 To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: The never ending story (ie phantom floppy drive) Hi Everyone, Thanks to all that offered advice on my floppy drive problem. Well, I tried everyone's suggestions, and some ideas of my own, and the problem still remains. There are no relevant entries in my registry for a:, retry, floppy, disk, drive, run, runonce, etc. My recent, pif, documents and recycled folders have been deleted and recreated. There are no shortcuts or "run" menu entries to a:. Removing background programs (down to the bare windows shell) has no effect. And so it goes...... I have noticed that if I try to access my cd or my LS120 when there are no disks in them I immediately (instantly) get a drive not ready dialog. But for the a: drive this sometimes takes up to a minute or more. Now it strikes me that my problem could be Explorer going about its normal business, checking drives at odd times (who knows with Microsoft), and the freezes may be explorer waiting for a reply from drive a: What is it that controls the retry interval for the disk drives? If I can get the FDD to respond instantly, then the problem may vanish into the normal background of operations. Any ideas? Thanks again people. Your comments are most appreciated. Darren J. Paul P.S. If I can't work this out soon, I may be posting another message detailing the impact resistance of Thinkpad 760XLs with walls!! P.P.S. My 760 now also has the latest bios. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 27 12:50:25 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA26550 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:50:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04235; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:48:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:46:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04004; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:46:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.jud.ca.gov (mx.jud.ca.gov [208.239.204.222]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03991; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:46:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (host-220.jud.ca.gov [208.239.204.220] (may be forged)) by mx.jud.ca.gov (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA29009 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 0007D49F; Tue, 27 Oct 98 09:49:00 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:42:14 -0800 Message-ID: <0007D49F.001225@jud.ca.gov> From: Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) Subject: re: Free Manuals To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part List-Unsubscribe: sorry, but someone grabbed my offer of free 360 manuals about 2 mins after I posted it. so they're gone. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 27 15:20:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA28888 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:20:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13178; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:17:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:14:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12909; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.mv.net (root@mercury.mv.net [199.125.85.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12892; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:14:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from summit.msc.com (meisner.mv.com [207.22.43.6]) by mercury.mv.net (8.8.8/mem-971025) with SMTP id PAA27916 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:13:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from HOMER by summit.msc.com (NTMail 3.02.07) with ESMTP id pa001653 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:57:37 -0500 From: "Steve Meisner" To: "Gayle Mills" , Subject: RE: ThinkPad 760ED Question Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:57:32 -0500 Message-ID: <000801be01e4$092762e0$9b6712ac@pcsteve> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <19981027163138.21921.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I'm running Win98 at 16bit High Color...That's the highest setting the driver supports. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Gayle Mills [mailto:glmills3@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 11:32 AM To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: ThinkPad 760ED Question Hi, I wanted to know if the ThinkPad 760ED can do 16 millions colors on the LCD screen? Thanks, Gayle _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 27 15:24:32 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA28912 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:22:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13388; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:19:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:18:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13251; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:18:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mb1.mailbank.com (mb1.mailbank.com [204.244.193.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13219; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:18:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from pp111-167.bctel.ca [209.52.111.167] (HELO master) by mb1.mailbank.com (AltaVista Mail V2.0H/2.0H BL25H listener) id 0000_00d6_3636_109b_653b; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:27:39 -0800 Message-ID: <001001be01d7$9089d0e0$0100005a@master.adsl.bctel.net> From: "David S. Crombie" To: Subject: Re: Free Manuals Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:28:16 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Probably bought by the guy that stole my 360c - I hope he's still trying to figure out the hard-drive password... haha -----Original Message----- From: Mitchell Yee To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 9:51 AM Subject: re: Free Manuals > sorry, but someone grabbed my offer of free 360 manuals about > 2 mins after I posted it. > > so they're gone. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 27 17:47:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA00864 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:47:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21114; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:43:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:41:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20977; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:41:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (smtp.email.msn.com [207.68.143.137]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20959; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:41:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from default - 153.36.143.149 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:40:55 -0800 Message-ID: <001f01be01fa$c3d01b80$958f2499@default> From: "MJC" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: (TP i Series) support for V.90 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:40:10 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Hi all, does anybody knows if the i Series modem supports V.90 or if it is upgradeable. Thanks. MJC. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 27 18:10:55 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA01333 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:10:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22682; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:09:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:07:38 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22427; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:07:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.1) id SAA22889 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:07:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (lucy.az.com [204.201.18.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16946; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:20:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp51.atlantica.net (ppp51.atlantica.net [204.57.139.51]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA26566; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:20:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <199810262320.PAA26566@www.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "Harry Seaman" Cc: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Mon, 26 Oct 98 15:32:10 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Reading CDR discs in a Thinkpad 600? List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:51:02 -0600 (CST), Harry Seaman wrote: >Are you sure that you are closing the session when you burn the cd? I >have experienced that problem with audio ced's that I've made. They wont >play on a cd player unless I do that. Actually I didn't burn the CD. Someone else did. I just stuck it in the TP and "let it rip". Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Oct 27 18:10:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA01330 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:10:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22622; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:09:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:07:03 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22347; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:07:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.1) id SAA22866 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:07:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ibm.net ([165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28384; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:17:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibm.net (slip129-37-92-160.mi.us.ibm.net [129.37.92.160]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA42154; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:17:04 GMT Message-ID: <3634BC9E.F890AC93@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:17:02 -0800 From: Joe Suttle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Komar CC: Slip , Thinkpad Mailing list Subject: Re: Upgrade path's for the 701. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bruce Komar wrote: > > Could you tell me more about this? I have a TP701C that I have tried to > add add'l 16MB RAM (to 24MB) and upgrade to W95, but I can't seem to get > around W95 constant "page faults". Yes, I did upgrade with the latest BIOS > from the IBM web site. I got a 32M chip and replaced the 8 that I had added to my TP701C, so went from 16 to 40M ram. Also added a 3.1G drive, and went on an upgrade binge. Did reinstall OS/2 W4 and Boot Manager. Got W95 installed in a separate partition, and it does work with no problems. Had to make sure that the CD was working under DOS BEFORE installing W95, and it is still there for when I need W95 to run some software (diagnostic and programming type) for work. You may have to do an install of generic dos, with all the right drivers first, and then install 95 over that. Also, what I bought was W95 upgrade, so had to stick in disk 1 of W3.1 so it would continue the installation. -- Joe Suttle * Warp Certified System Expert joesuttle@ibm.net Hercules, California +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Nurture your mind with great thoughts, for you will never go any higher than you think. - Benjamin Disraeli +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Powered by OS/2 Warp 4 fp7, Warp Server, SmartSuite and Netscape 4.04 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 00:04:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA06632 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:04:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA04702; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:04:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:00:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA04514; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:00:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.area54.net (mercury.area54.net [205.177.191.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA04502; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:00:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA01175; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 01:00:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 01:00:11 -0500 (EST) From: Michael To: MJC cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: (TP i Series) support for V.90 In-Reply-To: <001f01be01fa$c3d01b80$958f2499@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, MJC wrote: > Hi all, does anybody knows if the i Series modem supports V.90 or if it is > upgradeable. According to ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pcicrse/psref/tibook.pdf Yes it's a v90.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 00:07:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA06680 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA04830; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:05:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:03:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA04650; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:03:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA04624; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:03:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from pt (client-151-200-126-80.bellatlantic.net [151.200.126.80]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id TAA27938 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:49:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <006a01be020c$bfc3dce0$03000004@pt> From: "Paul Thomson" To: Subject: Re: The never ending story (ie phantom floppy drive) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:46:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I missed the beginning of this thread, so ignore if I'm misunderstanding the problem, but whenever I see phantom drive access, I look to see if Office97 is installed. Office adds it's "Findfast" to the startup folder, which, at fairly frequent intervals, scans all your drives for Office documents and creates an index so that the Office apps can load them faster. Useful if you have hundreds of documents on your system, a huge pain if you're like most of us... It's habit now...install Office, remove Findfast from startup... Paul ----Original Message----- From: Love and Jones Webmaster To: Darren J. Paul ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 1:39 AM Subject: Re: The never ending story (ie phantom floppy drive) >I had a similar problem with my 755CD. > >Whenever I attempted to use MS Outlook, it would occasionally >access A: drive, and freeze up the system until it stopped. After a few >minutes, it would do it again. > >I finally went to the section where you could save "journal" entries >(actually, indications of the location of files created from or in >Outlook), and deleted all references to these files (I had just bought >the machine from another person, and therefore did not need these >files or "journal entries". This alleviated my accessing problem. > >What program are you using when this crops up most? Are there >programs where recently opened files are in the a: drive? Clearing >these may be of help. > >Earl > > > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Thanks to all that offered advice on my floppy drive problem. Well, I >> tried everyone's suggestions, and some ideas of my own, and the problem >> still remains. >> >> There are no relevant entries in my registry for a:, retry, floppy, disk, >> drive, run, runonce, etc. My recent, pif, documents and recycled folders >> have been deleted and recreated. There are no shortcuts or "run" menu >> entries to a:. Removing background programs (down to the bare windows >> shell) has no effect. And so it goes...... >> >> I have noticed that if I try to access my cd or my LS120 when there are no >> disks in them I immediately (instantly) get a drive not ready dialog. But >> for the a: drive this sometimes takes up to a minute or more. Now it >> strikes me that my problem could be Explorer going about its normal >> business, checking drives at odd times (who knows with Microsoft), and the >> freezes may be explorer waiting for a reply from drive a: >> >> What is it that controls the retry interval for the disk drives? If I can >> get the FDD to respond instantly, then the problem may vanish into the >> normal background of operations. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> Thanks again people. Your comments are most appreciated. >> >> Darren J. Paul >> >> P.S. If I can't work this out soon, I may be posting another message >> detailing the impact resistance of Thinkpad 760XLs with walls!! >> >> P.P.S. My 760 now also has the latest bios. >> >> > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 02:26:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA08327 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:26:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08573; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:25:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08470; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from smok.apk.net (root@mail.apk.net [207.54.158.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08458; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:25:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from apk.net (as1-icg-33.cleveland.apk.net [207.54.186.43]) by smok.apk.net (8.9.1/8.9.1/ts-apk-rel.980722) with ESMTP id CAA16710 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:20:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3636C5A2.C3698CF4@apk.net> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:20:02 -0500 From: "Pat F. Picciano" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPAD E-Mail Group Subject: WTB: LCD for TP365XD... HELP! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi... I've recently been handed a notebook to fix, and it's got a broken LCD screen... it's an IBM ThinkPad 365XD. The screen is 11.3" diagonal, color TFT. Does anyone have a working TFT screen for the ThinkPad 365XD? Can anyone give me any pointers or directions as to where to go or who to ask for to obtain this part? I've gotten one price quote from a laptop service website... $450 for the LCD screen. I'll take a new or used display... I just want one that works. Thanks! Pat Picciano patp@apk.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 02:49:57 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA08517 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:49:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09161; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:49:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09070; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:49:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from vex.net (vex.net [198.96.119.193]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09058; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:49:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (1204 bytes) by vex.net via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:49:00 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #3 built 1997-Oct-29) Received: from vex.net(198.96.119.193) via SMTP by vex.net, id smtpd23921a; Wed Oct 28 02:49:00 1998 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:49:00 -0500 (EST) From: Golan Klinger To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Sound on a TP560. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Did a scratch install of Win95b on a Thinkpad 560 and in typical Windows fashion, something doesn't work. In this case, sound. Windows went through the procedure to install sound but I still get the blasted yellow exclamation point through the device listing and when I try to play a wav (for instance), Windows says I don't have a sound device installed. Suggestions? (Other than installing over this excuse for a user friendly operating system.) Golan Klinger [falco@vex.net] For long you live and high you fly And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry Good, fast or cheap. And all you touch and all you see Pick two... Is all your life will ever be From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 02:57:02 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA08576 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:57:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09540; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:56:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:56:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09420; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:56:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09407; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:56:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from 55.chicago-08-09rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.151.55]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981028075536.LJMP3377@55.chicago-08-09rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:55:36 +0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Sound on a TP560. Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:55:23 GMT Message-ID: <363acd99.13593054@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:49:00 -0500 (EST), you wrote: | Did a scratch install of Win95b on a Thinkpad 560 and in typical |Windows fashion, something doesn't work. In this case, sound. Windows = went |through the procedure to install sound but I still get the blasted = yellow |exclamation point through the device listing and when I try to play a = wav |(for instance), Windows says I don't have a sound device installed. | | Suggestions? (Other than installing over this excuse for a user |friendly operating system.) | You've got to download and set-up the sound driver diskette. I installed the same OS last week and had the same problem. Windows simply won't see the Thinkpad's sound card. epbrown From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 04:34:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA09402 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:34:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13597; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:34:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:32:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13489; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from witch.xtra.co.nz (witch.xtra.co.nz [202.27.184.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13476; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:32:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from amlaptop (p48-m8-ch7.dialup.xtra.co.nz [202.27.183.240]) by witch.xtra.co.nz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA08228 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 22:31:28 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <001401be0255$88c77000$f0b71bca@amlaptop> From: "Andreas Michaelides" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Appliance remote control program Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 22:29:53 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Giday all, Does anyone know where I could get my hands on a program to use my 770 as a remote control for my TV and Stereo etc. PLEASE, none of that dribble that its a different modulation scheme or frequency used on computer IR's, because I've had a program on my 770 before that I could control my stereo with. But somehow I lost it and it's install, and don't know where on the internet to find it again. The one I had was a Japanese one if I remember right, and I had to guess what the buttons were, but it was simple enough to figure out. Does anyone know where this program is, or another 1 I can download like it. It's not an essential think, just nice to play with. I was thinking of using it to make an alarm clock out of my TV. Thanks, Andreas!! :-) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 04:38:42 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA09426 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:38:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13847; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:38:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:37:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13761; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:37:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.enteract.com (thor.enteract.com [207.229.143.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13746; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:37:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3864 invoked from network); 28 Oct 1998 09:37:49 -0000 Received: from hezron-38.d.enteract.com (207.229.148.168) by thor.enteract.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 1998 09:37:49 -0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: "Andreas Michaelides" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Appliance remote control program Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:37:36 GMT Message-ID: <3636e542.4249553@smtp.enteract.com> References: <001401be0255$88c77000$f0b71bca@amlaptop> In-Reply-To: <001401be0255$88c77000$f0b71bca@amlaptop> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 22:29:53 +1300, you wrote: >Does anyone know where I could get my hands on a program to use my 770 = as a >remote control for my TV and Stereo etc. PLEASE, none of that dribble = that >its a different modulation scheme or frequency used on computer IR's, >because I've had a program on my 770 before that I could control my = stereo >with. But somehow I lost it and it's install, and don't know where on = the >internet to find it again. Well, the IR port uses a different protocol than...ahh, what the heck! The program you're referring to is called RemoCon, and you can download it on my website: www.enteract.com/~epbrown epbrown From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 05:41:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA09885 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 05:41:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21764; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 05:41:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 05:40:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21675; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 05:40:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from pike.sover.net (root@pike.sover.net [209.198.87.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21663; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 05:40:15 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from MYHOSTNAME (usr2a25.burl.sover.net [207.136.201.25]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id FAA19157 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 05:40:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199810281040.FAA19157@pike.sover.net> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:53:14 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199810262320.PAA26566@www.az.com> Subject: Re: Reading CDR discs in a Thinkpad 600? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.50 b50 List-Unsubscribe: FWIW, I've made a couple of CDs that could not be read on a 760 until it was rebooted. >>Are you sure that you are closing the session when you burn the cd? I >>have experienced that problem with audio ced's that I've made. They wont >>play on a cd player unless I do that. >Actually I didn't burn the CD. Someone else did. I just stuck it in the >TP and "let it rip". _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 08:09:10 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA12683 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:09:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25142; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:07:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25010; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:07:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24998; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:07:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA85578; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:50:01 -0500 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms05.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.197]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA26054; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:03:17 -0500 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU031 id 5040500021815253; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:05:17 -0500 From: Christopher Haun To: Cc: Subject: Re: Appliance remote control program Message-ID: <5040500021815253000002L032*@MHS> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:05:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Sounds good, but what is the range on a Thinkpad IR port? Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 andreas@xtra.co.nz on 10/28/98 04:25:17 AM Please respond to andreas@xtra.co.nz To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: Appliance remote control program Giday all, Does anyone know where I could get my hands on a program to use my 770 as a remote control for my TV and Stereo etc. PLEASE, none of that dribble that its a different modulation scheme or frequency used on computer IR's, because I've had a program on my 770 before that I could control my stereo with. But somehow I lost it and it's install, and don't know where on the internet to find it again. The one I had was a Japanese one if I remember right, and I had to guess what the buttons were, but it was simple enough to figure out. Does anyone know where this program is, or another 1 I can download like it. It's not an essential think, just nice to play with. I was thinking of using it to make an alarm clock out of my TV. Thanks, Andreas!! :-) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 09:23:52 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA13422 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:23:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27512; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:23:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:21:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27360; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:21:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (mosquito.ny.ans.net [147.225.51.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27347; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:21:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mosquito.ny.ans.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id JAA26832; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:21:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:21:32 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Komar X-Sender: bkomar@mosquito.ny.ans.net To: Joe Suttle cc: Slip , Thinkpad Mailing list Subject: Re: Upgrade path's for the 701. In-Reply-To: <3634BC9E.F890AC93@ibm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > You may have to do an install of generic dos, with all the right drivers > first, Ohh, maybe this is a problem. I've already wipped clean the original system. When I reinstall DOS, where do I get and how do I now I have all the "right" drivers before loading W95? _________________________________________________________________________ Bruce Komar (914) 701-4875 bkomar@ans.net _________________________________________________________________________ On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Joe Suttle wrote: > Bruce Komar wrote: > > > > Could you tell me more about this? I have a TP701C that I have tried to > > add add'l 16MB RAM (to 24MB) and upgrade to W95, but I can't seem to get > > around W95 constant "page faults". Yes, I did upgrade with the latest BIOS > > from the IBM web site. > I got a 32M chip and replaced the 8 that I had added to my TP701C, so > went from 16 to 40M ram. Also added a 3.1G drive, and went on an upgrade > binge. Did reinstall OS/2 W4 and Boot Manager. Got W95 installed in a > separate partition, and it does work with no problems. Had to make sure > that the CD was working under DOS BEFORE installing W95, and it is still > there for when I need W95 to run some software (diagnostic and > programming type) for work. > > You may have to do an install of generic dos, with all the right drivers > first, and then install 95 over that. Also, what I bought was W95 > upgrade, so had to stick in disk 1 of W3.1 so it would continue the > installation. > -- > Joe Suttle * Warp Certified System Expert > joesuttle@ibm.net > Hercules, California > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > Nurture your mind with great thoughts, for you will never go > any higher than you think. - Benjamin Disraeli > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > Powered by OS/2 Warp 4 fp7, Warp Server, SmartSuite and Netscape 4.04 > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 11:00:30 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA14379 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:00:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02581; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:59:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:58:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02320; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:58:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgw00.execpc.com (mailgw00.execpc.com [169.207.1.78]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02288; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:58:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hseaman.execpc.com (narn-1-140.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.136.14]) by mailgw00.execpc.com (8.9.0) id JAA27811; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:58:04 -0600 (CST) From: "Harry Seaman" To: "John H. Kim" , Subject: Re: (770ED) Modem Update Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:23:46 -0600 Message-ID: <01be01ce$8df9c640$LocalHost@hseaman.execpc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: -----Original Message----- From: John H. Kim To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 11:11 AM Subject: Re: (770ED) Modem Update >On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Sylvestre Meininger wrote: >> >> I just downloaded and installed IBM's 2.36 Modem (770ED) drivers, but >> connections are now stuck at a lousy 33.600. >> >> I'm used to my nice 115.000, what became of them ??? > >There are two connection speeds when dealing with modems. >The first is the modem's connection speed to the other modem, >which is currently limited by technology to 56 kbps. Often, >even a 56k modem will connect at a slower speed due to line >noise, singla loss, etc. > >The second is the computer's connection speed to the modem, >which peaks at 115 kbps with current (standard) serial ports. >In general, you *want* this speed to be faster than the >modem's connect speed, since the modem may be doing hardware >data de/compression (so 56 kbps data goes into the modem, and >115 kbps data goes out to your computer). > >By giving the modem an appropriate AT string, you can >customize the modem to report either speed when it connects. >Since it's physically impossible for a telephone modem to >connect at 115 kbps, my guess is that your modem used to >report its connect speed to your computer, and it now reports >its true connect speed. > >-- >John H. Kim >kim@stormhaven.org > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 11:00:40 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA14385 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02614; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:00:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:58:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02302; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:58:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgw00.execpc.com (mailgw00.execpc.com [169.207.1.78]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02280; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:58:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hseaman.execpc.com (narn-1-140.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.136.14]) by mailgw00.execpc.com (8.9.0) id JAA27802; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:58:02 -0600 (CST) From: "Harry Seaman" To: "John H. Kim" , Subject: Re: (770ED) Modem Update Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:22:39 -0600 Message-ID: <01be01ce$65abc800$LocalHost@hseaman.execpc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: >By giving the modem an appropriate AT string, you can >customize the modem to report either speed when it connects. >Since it's physically impossible for a telephone modem to >connect at 115 kbps, my guess is that your modem used to >report its connect speed to your computer, and it now reports >its true connect speed. Anybody know what that command is? thanks... harry seaman From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 11:17:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA14553 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:17:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04092; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:16:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:15:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03903; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:15:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03852; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:14:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibm.net (slip166-72-80-89.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.80.89]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA45984; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:14:51 GMT Message-ID: <363742F2.69FD890B@ibm.net> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:14:42 -0800 From: Joe Suttle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Komar CC: Slip , Thinkpad Mailing list Subject: Re: Upgrade path's for the 701. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bruce said: >Ohh, maybe this is a problem. I've already wipped clean the original >system. When I reinstall DOS, where do I get and how do I now I have >all >the "right" drivers before loading W95? You will have to find your TP utility disks, either from copies you have or from the web for all the drivers needed to be in a directory called 'Thinkpad'. After installing/reinstalling DOS, you will have to create that directory and put the utilities there. That way, you will have the sound driver in autoexec.bat and config.sys. Once those things are in those files, along with anyother drivers you have, you can generally start your W95 install from DOS. Any questions, feel free to email me directly, or check out the following sites: http://www3.pc.ibm.com/techinfo/2c4e.html http://www3.pc.ibm.com/techinfo/8ebe.html http://www.warpedthinkpad.simplenet.com/CDinst.html If you are using a PCMCIA CD-Rom, you will need the TP PC Card Services >from that first site, so that they will be in config.sys and autoexec.bat, and then install the driver for the CD and go from there. -- Joe Suttle * Warp Certified System Expert joesuttle@ibm.net Hercules, California +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Nurture your mind with great thoughts, for you will never go any higher than you think. - Benjamin Disraeli +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Powered by OS/2 Warp 4 fp7, Warp Server, SmartSuite and Netscape 4.04 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 11:36:28 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA14750 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:36:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05282; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:35:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:34:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05114; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:34:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05102; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:34:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA51112; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:16:51 -0500 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms05.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.197]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA33622; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:30:05 -0500 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU031 id 5040500021822798; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:32:03 -0500 From: Christopher Haun To: Subject: Re: Upgrade path's for the 701. Message-ID: <5040500021822798000002L082*@MHS> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:32:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: I have a 701C at home. The last three times I installed Win 9x on it (yes I format alot) all I did was boot to the CD-ROM boot disk, copy the win95 or win98 directory over and type setup. For 95 I had to get sound drivers and such. For Win 98 all the devices were detected. Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 joesuttle@ibm.net on 10/28/98 11:10:51 AM Please respond to joesuttle@ibm.net To: bkomar@ans.net cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, jlk@innernet.net Subject: Re: Upgrade path's for the 701. Bruce said: >Ohh, maybe this is a problem. I've already wipped clean the original >system. When I reinstall DOS, where do I get and how do I now I have >all >the "right" drivers before loading W95? You will have to find your TP utility disks, either from copies you have or from the web for all the drivers needed to be in a directory called 'Thinkpad'. After installing/reinstalling DOS, you will have to create that directory and put the utilities there. That way, you will have the sound driver in autoexec.bat and config.sys. Once those things are in those files, along with anyother drivers you have, you can generally start your W95 install from DOS. Any questions, feel free to email me directly, or check out the following sites: http://www3.pc.ibm.com/techinfo/2c4e.html http://www3.pc.ibm.com/techinfo/8ebe.html http://www.warpedthinkpad.simplenet.com/CDinst.html If you are using a PCMCIA CD-Rom, you will need the TP PC Card Services >from that first site, so that they will be in config.sys and autoexec.bat, and then install the driver for the CD and go from there. -- Joe Suttle * Warp Certified System Expert joesuttle@ibm.net Hercules, California +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Nurture your mind with great thoughts, for you will never go any higher than you think. - Benjamin Disraeli +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Powered by OS/2 Warp 4 fp7, Warp Server, SmartSuite and Netscape 4.04 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 13:34:45 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA16551 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:34:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11059; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:29:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:22:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10540; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:22:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from toledo.ai.univie.ac.at (toledo.ai.univie.ac.at [192.76.244.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10521; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:22:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from ai.univie.ac.at (westbahn.ai.univie.ac.at [192.76.244.187]) by toledo.ai.univie.ac.at (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04247 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:10:50 +0100 (MET) Sender: juffi@mail4.ai.univie.ac.at Message-ID: <36375E28.FC70DEF4@ai.univie.ac.at> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:10:48 +0100 From: Johannes Fuernkranz Organization: OeFAI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: LINUX, TP600: Extermal monitor and sound? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I know this is probably a dumb question, but I can't find the answer: How can I configure an external monitor for my ThinkPad 600, running Redhat 5.1 (upgraded to kernel 2.0.35). I have X running using the neomagic XBF from redhat. I also can figure out the modelines for my external monitor (a Philips 17B), but I don't know what to change in the XF86Config. Do I need two "Screen" sections? Two "Monitor" Sections? How do I switch between modes? How do I switch external/internal? I don't want to risk burning my LCD... Many thanks, Juffi PS: I'm also having problems with sound: I had it working with XBPRO, 0x220, IRQ5, DMA 1, but then I recompiled the kernel and can't get it going again (modprobe (or what's its name?) crashes!). Can I compile SB into the kernel? -- Johannes Fuernkranz Austrian Research Inst. for Artificial Intelligence +43-1-5320652(Fax) Schottengasse 3, A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe +43-1-5336112-19(Tel) E-mail: juffi@ai.univie.ac.at WWW: http://www.ai.univie.ac.at/~juffi --------------- "Life is too short for Chess." -- Byron ---------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 13:53:35 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA16829 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:53:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12229; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:45:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:41:43 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11941; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:41:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.1) id NAA29682 for dist-thinkpad; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:41:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigun.c-gate.net (bigun.c-gate.net [207.120.210.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04177; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:18:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from monster-nt4 (pm1wayne1-26.c-gate.net [198.79.69.159]) by bigun.c-gate.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA12927 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:08:25 -0600 Message-ID: <005201be0296$b26b50c0$01646464@monster-nt4> From: "Eric Giles" To: Subject: Re: (770ED) Modem Update Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:16:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Harry- >From what I remember, if you are using Win95 or 98, under the advanced section of your modem properties, there is an extra settings line. Add atw1 to this and it should report the correct modem connection speed. Eric Giles >>By giving the modem an appropriate AT string, you can >>customize the modem to report either speed when it connects. >>Since it's physically impossible for a telephone modem to >>connect at 115 kbps, my guess is that your modem used to >>report its connect speed to your computer, and it now reports >>its true connect speed. > > >Anybody know what that command is? >thanks... >harry seaman From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 14:16:16 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA17156 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13836; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:14:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:13:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13680; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (smtp4.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12982; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:03:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA34078; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:49:07 -0500 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms05.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.197]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA32788; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:57:51 -0500 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU031 id 5040500021827500; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:59:48 -0500 From: Christopher Haun To: Cc: Subject: Re: LINUX, TP600: Extermal monitor and sound? Message-ID: <5040500021827500000002L002*@MHS> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:59:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: plug in an external monitor. press Fn+F7. Does this work? It does in WinNT,WIn95,and Dos. Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 juffi@mail4.ai.univie.ac.at on 10/28/98 01:20:18 PM Please respond to juffi@mail4.ai.univie.ac.at To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: LINUX, TP600: Extermal monitor and sound? Hi, I know this is probably a dumb question, but I can't find the answer: How can I configure an external monitor for my ThinkPad 600, running Redhat 5.1 (upgraded to kernel 2.0.35). I have X running using the neomagic XBF from redhat. I also can figure out the modelines for my external monitor (a Philips 17B), but I don't know what to change in the XF86Config. Do I need two "Screen" sections? Two "Monitor" Sections? How do I switch between modes? How do I switch external/internal? I don't want to risk burning my LCD... Many thanks, Juffi PS: I'm also having problems with sound: I had it working with XBPRO, 0x220, IRQ5, DMA 1, but then I recompiled the kernel and can't get it going again (modprobe (or what's its name?) crashes!). Can I compile SB into the kernel? -- Johannes Fuernkranz Austrian Research Inst. for Artificial Intelligence +43-1-5320652(Fax) Schottengasse 3, A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe +43-1-5336112-19(Tel) E-mail: juffi@ai.univie.ac.at WWW: http://www.ai.univie.ac.at/~juffi --------------- "Life is too short for Chess." -- Byron ---------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 14:34:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA17381 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:34:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15078; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:34:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:32:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14930; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:32:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14868; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:31:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ursa-minor.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA22459; Wed, 28 Oct 98 14:30:42 EST Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <36377121.3A4D90E3@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:31:45 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.35 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Giles Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: (770ED) Modem Update References: <005201be0296$b26b50c0$01646464@monster-nt4> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: An alternative is to run the ThinkPad Modem program. It will tell you the current connection speed, allowing you to watch it go up and down over time. Even if the connection is at something like 48k, I've watched it fall back to 33.6k over time. Those initial connect speeds can be very misleading. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 14:58:15 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA17704 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:58:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15909; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:47:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:46:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15717; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:46:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15703; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:46:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from paddy (mg137-007.ricochet.net [204.179.137.7]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA01346; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:46:06 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Joe Suttle" Cc: "Thinkpad Mailing list" Subject: RE: Upgrade path's for the 701. Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:46:06 -0800 Message-ID: <004401be02ab$9a1a2360$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <3634BC9E.F890AC93@ibm.net> List-Unsubscribe: Joe, it sounds like you've been doing this the hard way. You don't need to get a working DOS configuration up and running on the hard drive before running Win9x setup. It can be a lot easier if you don't bother with that. Instead, all you really need is some way--any way--of copying the Win9x CD's setup directory on the hard drive. You can do this with another OS in another partition, copying the files from the CD or across a network, or you can use a boot floppy with CD-ROM drivers. For example, I typically use my old Trantor parallel-to-SCSI adapter with its DOS boot floppy and a SCSI CD-ROM drive. That combination boots right up on every machine I've needed it on. If I do have another OS already running, then I'll just copy the files across the network, which is even easier. Once the setup files are on the hard drive, you can just run Setup from there. It doesn't matter if you made the hard drive bootable or not. BTW, all you need is the setup directory itself, not the fairly large subdirectories it may contain. -Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Suttle [mailto:joesuttle@ibm.net] > Sent: Monday, October 26, 1998 10:17 AM > To: Bruce Komar > Cc: Slip; Thinkpad Mailing list > Subject: Re: Upgrade path's for the 701. > > > Bruce Komar wrote: > > > > Could you tell me more about this? I have a TP701C that I have tried to > > add add'l 16MB RAM (to 24MB) and upgrade to W95, but I can't seem to get > > around W95 constant "page faults". Yes, I did upgrade with the > latest BIOS > > from the IBM web site. > I got a 32M chip and replaced the 8 that I had added to my TP701C, so > went from 16 to 40M ram. Also added a 3.1G drive, and went on an upgrade > binge. Did reinstall OS/2 W4 and Boot Manager. Got W95 installed in a > separate partition, and it does work with no problems. Had to make sure > that the CD was working under DOS BEFORE installing W95, and it is still > there for when I need W95 to run some software (diagnostic and > programming type) for work. > > You may have to do an install of generic dos, with all the right drivers > first, and then install 95 over that. Also, what I bought was W95 > upgrade, so had to stick in disk 1 of W3.1 so it would continue the > installation. > -- > Joe Suttle * Warp Certified System Expert > joesuttle@ibm.net > Hercules, California > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > Nurture your mind with great thoughts, for you will never go > any higher than you think. - Benjamin Disraeli > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > Powered by OS/2 Warp 4 fp7, Warp Server, SmartSuite and Netscape 4.04 > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 15:53:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA18489 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:53:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19392; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:52:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:49:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18910; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:49:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18883; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:48:43 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from JES770@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id JFVNa04682; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:47:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:47:47 EST To: billy@MIX.COM Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Recycling batteries? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 10/28/98 3:30:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, billy@MIX.COM writes: > > Does anyone know of a company that can put new cells into existing > > batteries that don't hold a charge? A2Z Solutions - Will rebuild your old batteries, if they are no longer in production: http://www.a2zsolutions.com/batteries/notebook/ba-nb-01.htm Also, try Full Charge: An Oregon company that reconditions batteries. 1-888-736-3948 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 16:40:07 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA19137 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:40:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22006; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:38:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:36:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21798; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:36:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21775; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:36:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ursa-minor.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA23530; Wed, 28 Oct 98 16:35:58 EST Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <36378E7D.90558F47@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:37:01 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.35 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: nickdixon@bigfoot.com Cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: (770ED) Modem Update References: <005201be0296$b26b50c0$01646464@monster-nt4> <36377121.3A4D90E3@sls.lcs.mit.edu> <363787b9.2502019@mail.tesco.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Isn't it in Start, Programs, ThinkPad Modem or something like that under Win95/98/NT? Did you install Windows yourself? Otherwise, you can get it off of www.pc.ibm.com/us/thinkpad under support and downloadable files. I think it is part of the multi-disk modem package which includes the modem drivers. At least this has been true on the 600 and 770. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 16:45:34 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA19195 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:45:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22532; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:44:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:44:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22442; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22428; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:43:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p01.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.64]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA10956; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:44:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199810282144.NAA10956@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Bryan" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 28 Oct 98 13:41:58 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FRU's List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:12:58 -0500, Bill Bryan wrote: >I've been reading over the IBM service manual on the 701C and I keep >running across a term that I have not figured out yet. What is a FRU? The >manual keeps repeating "Do not replace a nondefective FRU". I think it stands for Field Replaceable Unit. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Oct 28 16:58:19 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA19408 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:58:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17735; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:26:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:25:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17519; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:25:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17500; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:25:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.2-29 #9830) id <01J3I7FC0G2O9EKDKX@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:24:53 MST Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:23:25 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Recycling batteries? In-reply-to: "Message dated Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:06:35 -0800" <199810270705.XAA08686@ritchie.loop.com> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <01J3I7OGYEV89EKDKX@Opus1.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: > Does anyone know of a company that can put new cells into existing batteries > that don't hold a charge? >From: "Russell Cederberg" Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops Subject: Don't throw away your old batteries! Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:39:21 -0800 Message-ID: <7134pf$6m0$1@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> A company here in Oregon called Full Power will totally re-condition them for quite cheap. They just did a camcorder battery for me for about $15 and it works. 1-888-736-3948 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 29 00:32:29 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA25473 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11085; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:30:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:28:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10966; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:28:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.jps.net (smtp2.jps.net [209.63.224.235]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10954; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:28:23 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from jps.net (209-239-204-146.oak.jps.net [209.239.204.146]) by smtp2.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15019; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:30:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3637FD48.5D89C323@jps.net> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:29:44 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Michaelides , Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Appliance remote control program References: <001401be0255$88c77000$f0b71bca@amlaptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Try this: http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA005810/remocon/remocone.htm It's a Japanese site. Andreas Michaelides wrote: > > Giday all, > > Does anyone know where I could get my hands on a program to use my 770 as a > remote control for my TV and Stereo etc. PLEASE, none of that dribble that > its a different modulation scheme or frequency used on computer IR's, > because I've had a program on my 770 before that I could control my stereo > with. But somehow I lost it and it's install, and don't know where on the > internet to find it again. > > The one I had was a Japanese one if I remember right, and I had to guess > what the buttons were, but it was simple enough to figure out. > > Does anyone know where this program is, or another 1 I can download like it. > It's not an essential think, just nice to play with. I was thinking of using > it to make an alarm clock out of my TV. > > Thanks, > Andreas!! > :-) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 29 08:22:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA29118 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:22:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29941; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:19:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:15:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29683; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:15:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29664; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:15:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:15:01 -0500 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-2.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id IAA19640; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:14:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36386A58.2FB2C453@csc.com> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 07:15:04 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: I Lee Hetherington CC: Eric Giles , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: (770ED) Modem Update References: <005201be0296$b26b50c0$01646464@monster-nt4> <36377121.3A4D90E3@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Is this ThinkPad Modem program only available on ThinkPads with built-in Mwave modems? I've never heard of the program for the three non-Mwave ThinkPads I've had. If it is available for all ThinkPads, where can I find it? Thanks, Rob I Lee Hetherington wrote: > > An alternative is to run the ThinkPad Modem program. It will tell you > the current connection speed, allowing you to watch it go up and down > over time. Even if the connection is at something like 48k, I've > watched it fall back to 33.6k over time. Those initial connect speeds > can be very misleading. > > --Lee Hetherington -- ----------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob_bell@nospam@csi.com ----------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 29 11:07:59 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA01178 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:07:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08201; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:06:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:01:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07784; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:01:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07726; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:00:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ursa-minor.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA27088; Thu, 29 Oct 98 11:00:36 EST Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <36389163.C2E5C523@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:01:39 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.35 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Bell Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: (770ED) Modem Update References: <005201be0296$b26b50c0$01646464@monster-nt4> <36377121.3A4D90E3@sls.lcs.mit.edu> <36386A58.2FB2C453@csc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: It is probably only available for Mwave ThinkPads. --Lee From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 29 12:42:08 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA02805 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:39:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14326; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:37:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:34:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14079; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:34:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall.hd.ibm.de (firewall.hd.ibm.de [192.101.197.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14062; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:33:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com by firewall.hd.ibm.de (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03/TWS 4.03.3-cherub) id AA49842; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:32:10 +0100 Received: from pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com (pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com [9.228.3.110]) by mailserver.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.4-mailserver) with ESMTP id SAA28798 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:33:08 +0100 (MEZ) Received: (from krumeich@localhost) by pool10.heidelbg.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 / TWS 8.7.2-pool) id SAA50722; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:33:06 +0100 (MEZ) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:33:06 +0100 (MEZ) From: Alexander Krumeich Reply-To: Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Thu, 29 Oct 1998 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Johannes, >PS: I'm also having problems with sound: I had it working with XBPRO, >0x220, IRQ5, DMA 1, but then I recompiled the kernel and can't get it >going again (modprobe (or what's its name?) crashes!). Can I compile SB >into the kernel? I recommend that you use a different sound driver. See http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/linux-on-tp600.html for details. BTW: I am really sorry for accidentally sending a rather long mail to the list two or three days ago. I guess I made quite a fool of myself. CU, Alexander -- Krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ Never trust a HAL 9000. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 29 14:08:56 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04430 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:08:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20256; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:07:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:02:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19909; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:02:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19893; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:02:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (39.p1.Ascend13.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.169.167]) by mail.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id OAA18389; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:00:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3638BB9E.260AC6F0@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:01:50 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: David Ross , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TPALL: NT vs. 95? References: <199810242134.OAA00534@ritchie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: MEANING OF LIFE AND EVERYTHING ELSE: Well, finally, a job for the little butterfly that is in my curio case.. :-) I'll ask Stephen Hawking to help set it up, First the Meaning of Life (with help also from Monty Python), THEN the Origin on the Universe.. :-) i suppose this job should be finished sometime before the machine turns to dust.. but 'til then, it'll work away.. Paul Khoury wrote: > On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 13:20:33 -0500, David Ross wrote: > > >>I'm almost thinking of using it as a Quake II server when I'm at my friend's dorm maybe... > > > > > >A 701 running W95 as a Quake II server? Are you nuts? > > You could probably say that. Well, I don't know if Win95 will work, because TCP/IP > will NOT work on another machine, so I'm going to try NT for the heck of it... > > While you're > >at it, why not set it the problem of determining "the meaning of life, the universe, and everything" :-? > > > > Nah, I'm not good at science and math. Like you, my friend. :) > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Running OS/2 Warp 3/4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 29 14:10:53 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04455 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:10:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20573; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:09:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:09:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20405; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:09:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20375; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:08:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (39.p1.Ascend13.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.169.167]) by mail.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id OAA21173; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:08:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3638BD8F.70818832@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:10:07 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: Bill Bryan , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: FRU's References: <199810282144.NAA10956@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul.. Field Replacement Unit :-) Paul Khoury wrote: > On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:12:58 -0500, Bill Bryan wrote: > > >I've been reading over the IBM service manual on the 701C and I keep > >running across a term that I have not figured out yet. What is a FRU? The > >manual keeps repeating "Do not replace a nondefective FRU". > > I think it stands for Field Replaceable Unit. > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) > Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 > ICQ#14582895 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 29 14:22:23 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04583 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:22:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21500; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:20:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:13:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20940; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20885; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:12:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (39.p1.Ascend13.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.169.167]) by mail.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id OAA22339; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:12:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3638BE6C.B421371E@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:13:48 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Suttle CC: Bruce Komar , Slip , Thinkpad Mailing list Subject: Re: Upgrade path's for the 701. References: <363742F2.69FD890B@ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I do a win95 load for the 701 and i have the original preload.. also, win95B and win98 have all the drivers needed for the 701.. best have at least 24megs of memory.. best is 40megs.. check my site for more.. http://thinkpads.com Joe Suttle wrote: > Bruce said: > >Ohh, maybe this is a problem. I've already wipped clean the original > >system. When I reinstall DOS, where do I get and how do I now I have >all > >the "right" drivers before loading W95? > > You will have to find your TP utility disks, either from copies you have > or from the web for all the drivers needed to be in a directory called > 'Thinkpad'. After installing/reinstalling DOS, you will have to create > that directory and put the utilities there. That way, you will have the > sound driver in autoexec.bat and config.sys. Once those things are in > those files, along with anyother drivers you have, you can generally > start your W95 install from DOS. > > Any questions, feel free to email me directly, or check out the > following sites: > http://www3.pc.ibm.com/techinfo/2c4e.html > http://www3.pc.ibm.com/techinfo/8ebe.html > http://www.warpedthinkpad.simplenet.com/CDinst.html > > If you are using a PCMCIA CD-Rom, you will need the TP PC Card Services > from that first site, so that they will be in config.sys and > autoexec.bat, and then install the driver for the CD and go from there. > -- > Joe Suttle * Warp Certified System Expert > joesuttle@ibm.net > Hercules, California > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > Nurture your mind with great thoughts, for you will never go > any higher than you think. - Benjamin Disraeli > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > Powered by OS/2 Warp 4 fp7, Warp Server, SmartSuite and Netscape 4.04 -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 29 14:30:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04727 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:29:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21995; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:26:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:24:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21809; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:24:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21796; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:24:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (39.p1.Ascend13.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.169.167]) by mail.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id OAA26058 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:24:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3638C124.811DB8B2@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:25:24 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 770X Display is neat References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: So far, the 770X is quite an improvement over the 770ED.. the display is sharp, and the smaller size is not so noticeable.. when the user plays a DVD movie, for the first time, the new DVD player asks for the region, plugs it in and thereafter you can not change it unless you reload the preload from the recovery CD more as i learn more.. -- Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 29 15:50:13 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA06205 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:50:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27629; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:49:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:44:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27268; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:44:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from glacier.binc.net (glacier.binc.net [205.173.176.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27182; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:44:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from rkarp (msn-6-10.binc.net [205.173.178.105]) by glacier.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA25381; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:44:26 -0600 Message-ID: <001301be037c$e2398100$69b2adcd@rkarp.humana.com> Reply-To: "Robert J. Karp" From: "Robert J. Karp" To: "Bill Morrow" , Subject: Re: 770X Display is neat Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:44:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: How does it perform in 640x480 mode, with Screen Expansion enabled? I ask because, at 1280 x 1024 native resolution, it should be able to produce an undistorted 640 x 480 image. Each 640 x 480 "pixel" would be displayed using four, for a 1280 x 960 image. It should be distortion free (but somewhat grainy I suspect). -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 1:28 PM Subject: 770X Display is neat >So far, the 770X is quite an improvement over the 770ED.. >the display is sharp, and the smaller size is not so noticeable.. > >when the user plays a DVD movie, for the first time, the new DVD player asks >for the region, plugs it in and thereafter you can not change it unless you >reload the preload from the recovery CD > >more as i learn more.. > >-- >Happy Trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) >WEB page http://thinkpads.com >Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html >bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net >770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), >770ED-5AU(8.1gig, 298meg), >760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), >701C(6.3gig, 40meg), >755CE(no gig, 40meg), >750C(no gig, 4meg), >IBM WorkPad(1meg) > >Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, >Done on a >closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 29 17:18:37 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA07806 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:18:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02765; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:16:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:13:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02366; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:13:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02353; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:12:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (p01.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.64]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA00641; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:12:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199810292212.OAA00641@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow" Cc: "Bill Bryan" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 29 Oct 98 14:10:32 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FRU's List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:10:07 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >Paul.. >Field Replacement Unit Close enough. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 29 17:22:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA07916 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02789; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:16:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:14:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02491; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02461; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:14:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (p01.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.64]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA00878; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:15:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199810292215.OAA00878@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow" Cc: "David Ross" , "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 29 Oct 98 14:12:43 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TPALL: NT vs. 95? List-Unsubscribe: Okay, how about a 701 running NT with 12MB of RAM being a Quake 2 server? No, I wouldn't run it on NT on a 701, and yes, I hate having less than 24MB of RAM! Meaning of life - Computers. Just kidding. Don't ask me, everyone's idea is probably different... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Oct 29 19:49:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA10117 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:49:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09161; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:48:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:45:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08936; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:45:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (root@tam.dorsai.org [206.127.32.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08920; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:45:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (higgins@amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA08309 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:48:21 -0500 (EST) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id TAA20133 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:48:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199810300048.TAA20133@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: (fwd) TP "I" Series reviw (fwd) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (thinkpad) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:48:17 -0500 (est) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The Wall Street Journal's Walter Mossberg reviewed three new "budget" laptops, including the Thinkpad "I" serieslow-end model, which he rated best, over the Toshiba 2515CDS or the Compaq 1235. I'll e-mail if you don't have access, but will not post it. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins Broadcasting & Cable Magazine higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 30 01:48:50 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA13968 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:48:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20764; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:46:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20629; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:46:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.teleport.com (smtp6.teleport.com [192.108.254.45]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20617; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:46:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26018 invoked from network); 30 Oct 1998 06:46:03 -0000 Received: from usertest.teleport.com (HELO user2.teleport.com) (pccare@192.108.254.19) by smtp6.teleport.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 1998 06:46:03 -0000 Received: (from pccare@localhost) by user2.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA16170; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:46:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:46:02 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick West To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: New OS/2 Files 10/29/1998 (Daily Listing) (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:18:16 -0500 From: announce@os2bbs.com To: os2new-1day-text@os2bbs.com Subject: New OS/2 Files 10/29/1998 (Daily Listing) -omitted- in several ways: You can direct dial the BBS or telnet to the BBS: telnet://bbs.os2bbs.com and download most of these files for free. Additionally, all of the files are available to subscribers directly through the URLs contained within the file descriptions. Name, Size, Date posted TRACPTO1.TXT 2K 10-29-98 README: TrackPoint Driver Disk I (v1.02) for OS/2: ThinkPad 600, 600E, 770, 770E, 770ED, 770X http://www.os2bbs.com/file_d/drivers/TRACPTO1.TXT TRACPTO1.EXE 795K 10-29-98 TrackPoint Driver Disk I (v1.02) for OS/2: ThinkPad 600, 600E, 770, 770E, 770ED, 770X http://www.os2bbs.com/file_d/drivers/TRACPTO1.EXE VFTPXOS2.TXT 4K 10-29-98 README: Video Features Diskette III (v3.50) for OS/2 Warp:ThinkPad 380, 380D, 380E, 380ED, 380XD, 385D, 385ED, 385XD, 560X, 560Z, 600 http://www.os2bbs.com/file_e/vdrivers/VFTPXOS2.TXT VFTPXOS2.EXE 1071K 10-29-98 Video Features Diskette III (v3.50) for OS/2 Warp: ThinkPad 380, 380D, 380E, 380ED, 380XD, 385D, 385ED, 385XD, 560X, 560Z, 600 http://www.os2bbs.com/file_e/vdrivers/VFTPXOS2.EXE VFTPDOS2.TXT 4K 10-29-98 README: Video Features Diskette IV (v1.03) for OS/2: ThinkPad 770, 770E, 770ED, 770X http://www.os2bbs.com/file_e/vdrivers/VFTPDOS2.TXT VFTPDOS2.EXE 1085K 10-29-98 Video Features Diskette IV (v1.03) for OS/2: ThinkPad 770, 770E, 770ED, 770X http://www.os2bbs.com/file_e/vdrivers/VFTPDOS2.EXE WARP4IU.TXT 4K 10-29-98 README: OS/2 Warp Version 4 Install Update Diskettes (v1.01): ThinkPad 380XD, 380Z, 385XD, 560X, 560Z, 600, 600E, 770, 770E, 770ED, 770X http://www.os2bbs.com/file_f/fixes4x/WARP4IU.TXT UTTPFOS2.TXT 6K 10-28-98 README: Utility Diskette (v4.12) for OS/2 ThinkPad. http://www.os2bbs.com/file_d/drivers/UTTPFOS2.TXT PCTPGOS2.EXE 586K 10-28-98 PC Card Director (v4.10) for OS/2: ThinkPad, many models. http://www.os2bbs.com/file_d/drivers/PCTPGOS2.EXE PCTPGOS2.TXT 13K 10-28-98 README: PC Card Director (v4.10) for OS/2 ThinkPad. http://www.os2bbs.com/file_d/drivers/PCTPGOS2.TXT MODEMCUO.EXE 795K 10-28-98 Modem Country Update Diskette (v1.51 and v1.40) for OS/2: ThinkPad 600, 770, 770ED http://www.os2bbs.com/file_d/drivers/MODEMCUO.EXE MODEMCU6.TXT 4K 10-28-98 README: Modem Country Update Diskette (v1.40) for Windows 3.1, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows NT, and OS/2: ThinkPad 600 http://www.os2bbs.com/file_d/drivers/MODEMCU6.TXT Copyright 1998 Norloff Computer Corp., all rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 30 02:37:21 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA14514 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 02:37:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21828; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 02:37:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 02:36:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21718; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 02:36:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21563; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 02:31:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (p36.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.99]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA14942; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:28:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199810300728.XAA14942@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "John Higgins" , "thinkpad" Date: Thu, 29 Oct 98 23:30:01 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: (fwd) TP "I" Series reviw (fwd) List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:48:17 -0500 (est), John Higgins wrote: > > The Wall Street Journal's Walter Mossberg reviewed three new "budget" > laptops, including the Thinkpad "I" serieslow-end model, which he rated > best, over the Toshiba 2515CDS or the Compaq 1235. I'll e-mail if you > don't have access, but will not post it. One of my ex-friends has the Compaq 1230 or 1235, and IMO, it's crap. I would rather have a ThinkPad or Toshiba, even if only for running Win98, than the Compaq. Just my 2 cents. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org (local machine) Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 1.05 ICQ#14582895 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 30 06:58:36 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA15838 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:58:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA06623; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:58:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:56:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA06517; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:56:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from toledo.ai.univie.ac.at (toledo.ai.univie.ac.at [192.76.244.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA06505; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:56:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from ai.univie.ac.at (westbahn.ai.univie.ac.at [192.76.244.187]) by toledo.ai.univie.ac.at (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27335; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:55:39 +0100 (MET) Sender: juffi@mail4.ai.univie.ac.at Message-ID: <3639A93A.5B4A167E@ai.univie.ac.at> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:55:38 +0100 From: Johannes Fuernkranz Organization: OeFAI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher Haun CC: juffi@mail4.ai.univie.ac.at, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: LINUX, TP600: Extermal monitor and sound? References: <5040500021827500000002L002*@MHS> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Christopher Haun wrote: > > plug in an external monitor. > press Fn+F7. > Does this work? It does in WinNT,WIn95,and Dos. Of course this works, in principle. The problem is a) when I switch to the external monitor, it works until I start XFree. Then the screen remains black. So my guess is the modeline settings are not optimal. b) I don't know how to configure my XF86Config so that I can use a higher frequency for the monitor without burning the Laptop screen. Does XFree know which Modeline to use for which device? If not, how can I specify that? Could anybody who has configured an external monitor on a TP send me their XF86Config? And the kernel settings for sound, if possible? (8-bit is enough for me). Many Thanks, Juffi From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 30 09:45:14 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA17149 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:45:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15255; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:40:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15074; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:40:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (smtp4.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15061; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:40:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp4.ny.us.ibm.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA64678; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:27:09 -0500 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms05.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.197]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA54566; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:35:51 -0500 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU031 id 5040500021936373; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:37:36 -0500 From: Christopher Haun To: Cc: Subject: Re: New OS/2 Files 10/29/1998 (Daily Listing) (fwd) Message-ID: <5040500021936373000002L032*@MHS> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:37:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Are these different from the ones on the IBM Web page? They look the same. Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] IBM Cross Brand Configuration Center Phone: 919-543-8315 Voicemail: 919-543-9967 Mobile: 919-260-1368 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 30 14:29:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA21320 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:29:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01303; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:27:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:18:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00711; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:18:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net [206.141.239.142]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00692; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:17:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from abtp ([199.179.174.192]) by mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (InterMail v03.02.02 118 115) with SMTP id <19981030190939.BVXL20470@[199.179.174.192]>; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:09:39 -0600 Message-ID: <007901be0438$d8d267a0$c0aeb3c7@abtp> Reply-To: "Aaron W. Brown" From: "Aaron W. Brown" To: "Christopher Haun" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: Appliance remote control program Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:09:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: >Sounds good, but what is the range on a Thinkpad IR port? > >Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] The range is less than 5 feet to talk to an HP LaserJet 5MP IR port. So short of a range it's pretty useless. Most TV remotes have a 25-30ft range allowing the signal to wall bounce. Is this the printers problem or the Thinkpad? (755CD in my case). Aaron Brown From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 30 14:40:20 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA21414 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:40:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02037; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:36:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01862; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:36:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01849; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:36:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.2-29 #9830) id <01J3KYAEYL809EL70W@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:36:10 MST Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:28:23 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Appliance remote control program In-reply-to: "Message dated Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:09:40 -0600" <007901be0438$d8d267a0$c0aeb3c7@abtp> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <01J3KYKQOKCO9EL70W@Opus1.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: > The range is less than 5 feet to talk to an HP LaserJet 5MP IR port. So > short of a range it's pretty useless. Most TV remotes have a 25-30ft range > allowing the signal to wall bounce. Is this the printers problem or the > Thinkpad? (755CD in my case). My tv remote has four big infrared LEDs plus a much larger cover/lens that lets light out of its four sides as well as the top. It'd be hard for any notebook to match that... There are devices you can buy that have a sensor and that connects to another infrared radiator, usually with some cable between rooms but something like this could be used to help the otherwise limited range of the computer or printer itself. Check ads in the satellite tv magazines, or Nuts and Volts is one that is full of ads for this sort of stuff. Billy Y.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 30 15:43:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA21985 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04593; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:40:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:38:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04477; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:38:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04459; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:38:30 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA10649 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:38:11 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:38:10 -0500 (EST) To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Appliance remote control program In-Reply-To: <007901be0438$d8d267a0$c0aeb3c7@abtp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Aaron W. Brown wrote: > >Sounds good, but what is the range on a Thinkpad IR port? > > > >Chris Haun [chaun@us.ibm.com] > > The range is less than 5 feet to talk to an HP LaserJet 5MP IR port. So > short of a range it's pretty useless. Most TV remotes have a 25-30ft range > allowing the signal to wall bounce. Is this the printers problem or the > Thinkpad? (755CD in my case). Keep in mind range depends on both the transmitter and receiver (or in the case of bidirectional communications, the pair of transmitters and receivers involved). The HP48 calculators only had an IR range of a few feet to prevent students from zapping notes to each other during tests, but that was entirely due to the receiver. The transmitter was plenty powerful enough to operate as a TV remote from 20+ feet. FWIW, I got my 701 to talk to a JetEye IR receiver hooked up to my desktop at a range of about 20 feet. I had to drop the baudrate down to 4800 bps to get it to work reliably, but work it did. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Oct 30 16:28:54 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA22457 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:28:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07672; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:28:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:27:02 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07554; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:27:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.1) id QAA17504 for dist-thinkpad; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:26:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27329; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:22:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from complex.math.uiuc.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA19725; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:22:41 -1000 Message-ID: <003501be02d2$48da3400$4a146520@complex.math.uiuc.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Emanuel Brown" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: Re: Sound on a TP560. Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:22:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: "You've got to download and set-up the sound driver diskette." Even that's sometimes not enough. Try changing some of the resources (interrupts, DMA) by hand in the device manager. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 31 13:35:22 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA03301 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:35:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15869; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:35:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:33:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15779; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from dewdrop2.mindspring.com (dewdrop2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.82]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15766; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:33:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from diebold (user-38lddba.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.181.106]) by dewdrop2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA08482 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:33:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981031133253.007c9a70@mindspring.com> X-Sender: jdiebold@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:32:53 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Jean-Pierre Diebold Subject: [TP770ED]: Iomega Zip drive vs. VST internal zip drive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi everybody... It seems to me that I have made a bad decision buying the internal IOMEGA ZIP DRIVE: 1- Iomega is not hot-swappable (VST is) 2- Iomega is not Thinkpad Proven?! (VST is) 3- Iomega does have some annoying bugs (VST?) I am going to try to return my Iomega and exchange for VST? Does anyone have a VST? What are your thoughts? Also, how about the one made by CNF? Thanks in advance for the input. Jean-Pierre Diebold From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 31 14:51:01 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA03755 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:51:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17558; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:50:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:48:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17452; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:48:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix1.seitz.de (unix1.seitz.de [193.102.72.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17428; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:46:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from seitz.de (asterix.seitz.de [193.102.73.2]) by unix1.seitz.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA610A for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:45:31 +0100 Message-ID: <363B68E9.DCA08DE4@seitz.de> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:45:45 +0100 From: "Adnan Mumbasic" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Quickboot? Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms98FF26FD2ED8A26A8C7F7EE5" List-Unsubscribe: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms98FF26FD2ED8A26A8C7F7EE5 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------2E278BAF7C8DD1FF6EBD3E88" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2E278BAF7C8DD1FF6EBD3E88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody, what does QUICKBOOT in the Bios-Setup in my TP770ED mean? What happend when it is enabled what when it is disabled? 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Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:58:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17943; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:56:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:56:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17862; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:55:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix1.seitz.de (unix1.seitz.de [193.102.72.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17798; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:54:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from seitz.de (asterix.seitz.de [193.102.73.2]) by unix1.seitz.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA6125 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:53:05 +0100 Message-ID: <363B6AAF.B6A7D683@seitz.de> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:53:19 +0100 From: "Adnan Mumbasic" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: ThinPad 770ED boot problem Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; 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My BIOS has following date: 25/9/98. Sometimes (as usual for Win95) my computer hangs up, so I had to use the power-switch to turn it off and later on. After this I have many problems to start the computer. The TP hangs after displaying the memory, there are no indication for booting windows. I have to turn it off many times, reset and pull of the accu before it happens that the computer will boot. Also turning off with the power-switch is not ok, I have to press the fn-key and hold the power-switch for 10 seconds or so. Anybody out with the same problem? Or with a solution? 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Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:31:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18890; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:31:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:30:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18792; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:30:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (mcfs.whowhere.com [209.1.236.44]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18779; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:30:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by my-dejanews.com; Sat Oct 31 12:29:58 1998 To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 12:29:58 -0700 From: "Soulmann" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: ~=-Cracked Case-=~ X-Sender-Ip: 129.15.92.111 Organization: Deja News Mail (http://www.my-dejanews.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello TP Gurus: My immaculately kept 760 has decided to play a trick on this otherwise peaceful Halloween. The right rear hinge has developed a 1/4 inch crack that's bound to grow as time goes by. The outer corner of the case has also coughed up a piece. Is this something I can fix myself? Any suggestions for gluing it back together and preventing further fissures? Epoxy? Superglue? Is this covered under warranty? Thanks in advance for your expertise and happy and safe trick or treating. -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 31 17:03:06 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA04696 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 17:03:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21854; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 17:02:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 31 Oct 1998 16:59:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21612; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 16:59:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix1.seitz.de (unix1.seitz.de [193.102.72.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21531; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 16:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from seitz.de (asterix.seitz.de [193.102.73.2]) by unix1.seitz.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA6344; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:56:35 +0100 Message-ID: <363B879B.89C4C5AB@seitz.de> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:56:43 +0100 From: "Adnan Mumbasic" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: ThinPad 770ED boot problem References: <199810312151.QAA09454@mail.binghamton.edu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms9EFBBD92A803E7EE1FC195A3" List-Unsubscribe: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms9EFBBD92A803E7EE1FC195A3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------2728808C27D299DB84CF4C14" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2728808C27D299DB84CF4C14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ken wrote: > > At 08:53 PM 10/31/98 +0100, Adnan Mumbasic wrote: > >I have a TP770 ED with preinstalled Win95. > >computer will boot. Also turning off with the power-switch is not ok, I > >have to press the fn-key and hold the power-switch for 10 seconds or so. > > Wow, this fn-power switch is a new idea for me. > > Umm, when the power switch doesn't work (which is always the case for me - > when the machine crashes, it doesn't work at all for me) you're supposed to > use the little reset button right behind the power switch. You need > something small to press it with. this doesn´t work everytime > > My TP770ED with Win95 OSR2 (preinstalled) crashes all the time. I hate it. me, too > > Ken > kenzo@free-music.com we should upgrade to 98 or NT Adnan --------------2728808C27D299DB84CF4C14 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="Adnan.Mumbasic.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Adnan Mumbasic Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Adnan.Mumbasic.vcf" begin:vcard n:Mumbasic;Adnan tel;cell:+49 171 270 3460 x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:Adnan.Mumbasic@seitz.de fn:Adnan Mumbasic end:vcard --------------2728808C27D299DB84CF4C14-- --------------ms9EFBBD92A803E7EE1FC195A3 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIIJZAYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIJVTCCCVECAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC B2YwggQwMIIDmaADAgECAhBfwMXge8VH0lMIQqwWlw3oMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAMIHMMRcw FQYDVQQKEw5WZXJpU2lnbiwgSW5jLjEfMB0GA1UECxMWVmVyaVNpZ24gVHJ1c3QgTmV0d29y azFGMEQGA1UECxM9d3d3LnZlcmlzaWduLmNvbS9yZXBvc2l0b3J5L1JQQSBJbmNvcnAuIEJ5 IFJlZi4sTElBQi5MVEQoYyk5ODFIMEYGA1UEAxM/VmVyaVNpZ24gQ2xhc3MgMSBDQSBJbmRp dmlkdWFsIFN1YnNjcmliZXItUGVyc29uYSBOb3QgVmFsaWRhdGVkMB4XDTk4MTAzMDAwMDAw MFoXDTk5MTAxNzIzNTk1OVowggEYMRcwFQYDVQQKEw5WZXJpU2lnbiwgSW5jLjEfMB0GA1UE CxMWVmVyaVNpZ24gVHJ1c3QgTmV0d29yazFGMEQGA1UECxM9d3d3LnZlcmlzaWduLmNvbS9y ZXBvc2l0b3J5L1JQQSBJbmNvcnAuIGJ5IFJlZi4sTElBQi5MVEQoYyk5ODEeMBwGA1UECxMV UGVyc29uYSBOb3QgVmFsaWRhdGVkMTMwMQYDVQQLEypEaWdpdGFsIElEIENsYXNzIDEgLSBO ZXRzY2FwZSBGdWxsIFNlcnZpY2UxFzAVBgNVBAMUDkFkbmFuIE11bWJhc2ljMSYwJAYJKoZI hvcNAQkBFhdhZG5hbi5tdW1iYXNpY0BzZWl0ei5kZTBcMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA0sAMEgC QQDhC5yxuLba7BUbczcQqcbE8EYlGZMchyHOqbI5Q1OSZpoCvr2Eqs03Kly++JbNrA5fn5zA MFXr1jlUAbNXzJpjAgMBAAGjggEGMIIBAjAJBgNVHRMEAjAAMIGvBgNVHSAEgacwgDCABgtg hkgBhvhFAQcBATCAMCgGCCsGAQUFBwIBFhxodHRwczovL3d3dy52ZXJpc2lnbi5jb20vQ1BT MGIGCCsGAQUFBwICMFYwFRYOVmVyaVNpZ24sIEluYy4wAwIBARo9VmVyaVNpZ24ncyBDUFMg aW5jb3JwLiBieSByZWZlcmVuY2UgbGlhYi4gbHRkLiAoYyk5NyBWZXJpU2lnbgAAAAAAADAR BglghkgBhvhCAQEEBAMCB4AwMAYKYIZIAYb4RQEGBwQiFiA2NTFlZmI5MGYxN2M4MDQ0Njk3 ZmQyNWUxMjg1NjNjYjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQAiDtn+OOo8p77IwZ0XNlac8QS4ZIa8 xXgJ4z8esiaJ4pqZbnqs/MqD54fvCndZbRG34cRV7Mrg9wT2+8WK896C9R5AaNQRPz8d+F08 PSZpnp0fSvRm1S5a8AOtbw1Iapakvz77J1dKuin1Jh4RlJMAj7oACAWErIi5DV2Z5gp/bDCC Ay4wggKXoAMCAQICEQDSdi6NFAw9fbKoJV2v7g11MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAgUAMF8xCzAJBgNV BAYTAlVTMRcwFQYDVQQKEw5WZXJpU2lnbiwgSW5jLjE3MDUGA1UECxMuQ2xhc3MgMSBQdWJs aWMgUHJpbWFyeSBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIEF1dGhvcml0eTAeFw05ODA1MTIwMDAwMDBaFw0w ODA1MTIyMzU5NTlaMIHMMRcwFQYDVQQKEw5WZXJpU2lnbiwgSW5jLjEfMB0GA1UECxMWVmVy aVNpZ24gVHJ1c3QgTmV0d29yazFGMEQGA1UECxM9d3d3LnZlcmlzaWduLmNvbS9yZXBvc2l0 b3J5L1JQQSBJbmNvcnAuIEJ5IFJlZi4sTElBQi5MVEQoYyk5ODFIMEYGA1UEAxM/VmVyaVNp Z24gQ2xhc3MgMSBDQSBJbmRpdmlkdWFsIFN1YnNjcmliZXItUGVyc29uYSBOb3QgVmFsaWRh dGVkMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQC7WkSKBBa7Vf0DeootlE8VeDa4DUqy b5xUv7zodyqdufBou5XZMUFweoFLuUgTVi3HCOGEQqvAopKrRFyqQvCCDgLpL/vCO7u+yScK XbawNkIztW5UiE+HSr8Z2vkV6A+HthzjzMaajn9qJJLj/OBluqexfu/J2zdqyErICQbkmQID AQABo3wwejARBglghkgBhvhCAQEEBAMCAQYwRwYDVR0gBEAwPjA8BgtghkgBhvhFAQcBATAt MCsGCCsGAQUFBwIBFh93d3cudmVyaXNpZ24uY29tL3JlcG9zaXRvcnkvUlBBMA8GA1UdEwQI MAYBAf8CAQAwCwYDVR0PBAQDAgEGMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAgUAA4GBAIi4Nzvd2pQ3AK2qn+GB AXEekmptL/bxndPKZDjcG5gMB4ZbhRVqD7lJhaSV8Rd9Z7R/LSzdmkKewz60jqrlCwbe8lYq +jPHvhnXU0zDvcjjF7WkSUJj7MKmFw9dWBpJPJBcVaNlIAD9GCDlX4KmsaiSxVhqwY0DPOvD zQWikK5uMYIBxjCCAcICAQEwgeEwgcwxFzAVBgNVBAoTDlZlcmlTaWduLCBJbmMuMR8wHQYD VQQLExZWZXJpU2lnbiBUcnVzdCBOZXR3b3JrMUYwRAYDVQQLEz13d3cudmVyaXNpZ24uY29t L3JlcG9zaXRvcnkvUlBBIEluY29ycC4gQnkgUmVmLixMSUFCLkxURChjKTk4MUgwRgYDVQQD Ez9WZXJpU2lnbiBDbGFzcyAxIENBIEluZGl2aWR1YWwgU3Vic2NyaWJlci1QZXJzb25hIE5v dCBWYWxpZGF0ZWQCEF/AxeB7xUfSUwhCrBaXDegwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKB9MBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJ AzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZIhvcNAQkFMQ8XDTk4MTAzMTIxNTY0M1owHgYJKoZIhvcN AQkPMREwDzANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBKDAjBgkqhkiG9w0BCQQxFgQUxOXgI40F2O/41PPHBpps /SczBicwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAEQEfiLGH+MW2/oCr5mvLZ+Y88rG7er9ut8TVqZmtFL24Q H5K2CSKo85lTdmElU0vuo5lUvXkppqVWzM4fSp7cfW8= --------------ms9EFBBD92A803E7EE1FC195A3-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 31 18:56:46 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA05642 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:56:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24311; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:56:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:53:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24201; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:53:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from smh-mail.smh.com (smh-mail.smh.com [204.5.150.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24187; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:53:03 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from ccMail by smh-mail.smh.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 000726E2; Sat, 31 Oct 98 18:41:34 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:27:39 -0500 Message-ID: <000726E2.CE21223@smh.com> To: Ken , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" , "Adnan Mumbasic" Subject: Re[2]: ThinPad 770ED boot problem Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.4927789090" List-Unsubscribe: --IMA.Boundary.4927789090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Save Win95/98 for games. Win NT 4.0 will be reasonable stable, but you'll find your hardware isn't always supported. It's definitely the way to go if you want to run a windows box, imho. IBM does a good job supplying drivers for NT, as well. Regards, Neil TP 600 PII/266 128mB RAM ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: ThinPad 770ED boot problem Author: "Adnan Mumbasic" at Internet Date: 10/31/98 10:56 PM Ken wrote: > > At 08:53 PM 10/31/98 +0100, Adnan Mumbasic wrote: > >I have a TP770 ED with preinstalled Win95. > >computer will boot. Also turning off with the power-switch is not ok, I > >have to press the fn-key and hold the power-switch for 10 seconds or so. > > Wow, this fn-power switch is a new idea for me. > > Umm, when the power switch doesn't work (which is always the case for me - > when the machine crashes, it doesn't work at all for me) you're supposed to > use the little reset button right behind the power switch. You need > something small to press it with. this doesn't work everytime > > My TP770ED with Win95 OSR2 (preinstalled) crashes all the time. I hate it. me, too > > Ken > kenzo@free-music.com we should upgrade to 98 or NT Adnan --IMA.Boundary.4927789090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Adnan.Mumbasic.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Adnan.Mumbasic.vcf" begin:vcard n:Mumbasic;Adnan tel;cell:+49 171 270 3460 x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:Adnan.Mumbasic@seitz.de fn:Adnan Mumbasic end:vcard --IMA.Boundary.4927789090-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 31 22:42:04 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA07370 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29314; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:41:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:40:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29211; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:40:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from chele.cais.net (rj@chele.cais.com [199.0.216.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29199; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:40:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rj@localhost) by chele.cais.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA02975 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:39:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:39:54 -0500 (EST) From: rj To: ThinkPad List Subject: Sony 505 (OT) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Sorry for the OT post but I recall someone on the list has the subject notebook. Any one who has one or has used it and is willing to share their experiences please respond to rj@cais.com TIA From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Oct 31 23:33:26 1998 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA07921 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 23:33:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00607; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 23:33:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 31 Oct 1998 23:32:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00524; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 23:32:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00511; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 23:32:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from 173.chicago-11-12rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.152.173]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981101043140.EOUS8489@173.chicago-11-12rs.il.dial-access.att.net>; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 04:31:40 +0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: rj@cais.com, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Sony 505 (OT) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 04:31:25 GMT Message-ID: <363ce2ca.18436162@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:39:54 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >Sorry for the OT post but I recall someone on the list has the subject >notebook. Any one who has one or has used it and is willing to share >their experiences please respond to rj@cais.com Odds are that was me. I've got a review of the 505 experience at www.enteract.com/~epbrown/sony505.html. I've also set-up a Sony Page about the 505G model and various tidbits (performance tweaks, different OS installs, other 505 web pages) at www.enteract.com/~epbrown/Sony505G.html. In addition to the Sony Board on the web listed on my site, you might also want to do a Dejanews search on the 505 on the group comp.sys.laptops - it's been the topic of a few threads in recent weeks. HTH epbrown