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------=_NextPart_000_004F_01BE351A.FF484220-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 1 00:17:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA29604 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 00:17:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17295; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 00:17:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 1 Jan 1999 00:16:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17146; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 00:16:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17126; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 00:16:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from worldnet.att.net ([12.65.130.144]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with ESMTP id <19990101051613.FOVG27813@worldnet.att.net> for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 05:16:13 +0000 Message-ID: <368C5A61.2D9ABA69@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:17:21 -0600 From: Michael Cassell Reply-To: mdci@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 1 02:22:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA00612 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 02:22:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19631; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 02:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 1 Jan 1999 02:21:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19473; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 02:21:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mw3.texas.net (mw3.texas.net [206.127.30.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19461; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 02:21:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ouatic (mnet01-48.sat.texas.net [206.127.6.48]) by mw3.texas.net (2.4/2.4) with SMTP id BAA29679 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 01:21:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000f01be3557$4919b140$30067fce@ouatic> From: "TD" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: Selectbase 770 Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 01:21:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 List-Unsubscribe: Can anyone tell me if the Selectbase 770 has a standard serial port....or just a USB port? The ibm options page lists a serial port but on some of the retailer pages they list the Universal Serial Bus as the single serial port. Any info appreciated. -T- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 1 05:14:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA01518 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 05:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA24167; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 05:14:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 1 Jan 1999 05:13:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA24057; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 05:13:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA24041; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 05:13:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp750 (p47.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.62]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA14655; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 02:10:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901011010.CAA14655@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Esmail Bonakdarian" , "esmail@uiowa.edu" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 03 Jan 99 02:11:25 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TP560] takes a lickin', keeps on tickin' List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 5 Dec 1998 11:29:26 -0600 (CST), Esmail Bonakdarian wrote: >Hiya, > >Just a quick testimonal about the ruggedness of the 560x. > >A few days ago I had an altercation with an automobile and found >myself sprawled out on the other side of a median with some torn new >clothes and slightly bloodied and bruised. Luckily, neither I or my >bike ended up where traffic was moving. > >It was only a few minutes later after I had collected myself and my >belongings off the road that I remembered that I had my laptop in my >backpack. It was fine! It certainly came through this experience much >better than I - though all things considered I was very lucky too. > >For those curious, I carry my 560 in my backpack in a simple magazine >holder padded usually with some program listings. That's all. Worked >very well. I know this is a late response, but I happened to see it in a folder on my 750. I used to ONLY use a bike during my high school years, and sometimes having 2 ThinkPads, or a ThinkPad and the SPARCbook in my backpack, I always worried about something like that happening... Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 1 10:55:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA03102 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04225; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:55:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:52:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03973; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:52:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03961; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:52:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 (user-38ld38p.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.141.25]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA23469 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:52:39 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad list" Subject: RE: Selectbase 770 Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:52:07 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2212 (4.71.2419.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 In-reply-to: <000f01be3557$4919b140$30067fce@ouatic> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Selectabase 770 has both ports. One of each. You, of course, have to make sure you have them both enabled. I don't believe you can use the Serial Port and the IR Prot simultaneously. William Armstrong WILLIAM ARMSTRONG LIGHTING DESIGN warmstrong@waldinc.com -----Original Message----- From: TD [mailto:ouatic@texas.net] Sent: Friday, January 01, 1999 2:21 AM To: Thinkpad List Subject: Selectbase 770 Can anyone tell me if the Selectbase 770 has a standard serial port....or just a USB port? The ibm options page lists a serial port but on some of the retailer pages they list the Universal Serial Bus as the single serial port. Any info appreciated. -T- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 1 12:49:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA03993 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:49:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06542; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:49:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:48:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06363; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:48:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate1.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06351; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:48:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from paddy (mg131-013.ricochet.net [204.179.131.13]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA28442; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:47:55 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "TD" , Cc: "Thinkpad List" Subject: RE: 770ED DVD problem Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:47:54 -0800 Message-ID: <004b01be35ae$dbe93cf0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <001301be34e5$7b39e720$23067fce@ouatic> List-Unsubscribe: > I just looked....the files on the recovery CD are compressed images....no > way to get the drivers without installing the whole thing. They are ZIP files, and there is a copy of PKUNZIP on either the boot floppy or the CD. Or as James mentioned, you can use WinZip or any zip program you like. The ZIP files do not contain long filenames, so it doesn't matter whether you use a 16-bit or 32-bit ZIP program. -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 1 13:50:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA04495 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:50:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08723; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:50:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:49:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08595; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:49:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08576; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibm.net (slip129-37-170-81.pq.ca.ibm.net [129.37.170.81]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA53864 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 18:49:45 GMT Message-ID: <368D44D9.C65DF9F7@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 13:57:45 -0800 From: Dave Sims Reply-To: rdsims@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad List Subject: resetbat.exe for 701C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Am in need of this program for my aging 701C..can anyone on the list either e-mail me the program or direst me to a download source? Many thanks. Dave Sims From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 1 15:23:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA05213 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 15:23:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11869; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 15:23:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 1 Jan 1999 15:22:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11626; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 15:22:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11614; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 15:22:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibm.net (slip129-37-51-51.ca.us.ibm.net [129.37.51.51]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA39726; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:22:17 GMT Message-ID: <368D2E64.F4FE6670@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 12:21:56 -0800 From: Joe Suttle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rdsims@ibm.net, Think Pad List Subject: Re: resetbat.exe for 701C References: <368D44D9.C65DF9F7@ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Dug in my recent posts, and came up with this ... ---begin snip>>> >I am sure many of us on the list would like a copy of Resetbat.exe... could >you post it antwhere or advise?? If no one else has asked, then perhaps you >wouldn't mind mailing me a copy..?? Hey there, Seems that a lot of people were asking for this program,(including me) so I'll post it to my site. Anyone's free to download it, but be aware that it may not be there forever(in the event I change ISP's or somethin) Many thanks goes to Jonathan who originally sent me the file. My site can be found at www.innernet.net/jlk. It's located in the files section. If you want a direct link, it can be found(in zip format) at http://www.innernet.net/jlk/uploads/701reset.zip Enjoy, and let me know if you need anything. -Jamie >>>end snip--- I went there and got mine, so if it is not still there let me know -- Joe Suttle * IBM Warp Certified System Expert joesuttle@ibm.net Hercules, California +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ If you can distinguish between good advice and bad advice, you probably don't need any advice at all. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Powered by Warp 4, Aurora, SmartSuite, DB2, Internet Gate & Netscape 4.04 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 1 18:47:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA06684 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 18:47:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17206; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 18:47:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 1 Jan 1999 18:45:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17070; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 18:45:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from crg-gw.Stanford.EDU (root@crg-gw.Stanford.EDU [171.65.32.201]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17058; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 18:45:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from riboweb.Stanford.EDU (riboweb.Stanford.EDU [171.65.32.79]) by crg-gw.Stanford.EDU (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA22545; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 15:45:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgo@localhost) by riboweb.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18311; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 15:45:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 15:45:38 -0800 (PST) From: "John G. Olyarchuk" Sender: jgo@crg-gw.Stanford.EDU To: Bruce Markowitz cc: "Thomas A. Jones" , ThinkPad Subject: Re: TP770X Display In-Reply-To: <368C2AB3.15FB@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: 1024x768=786432pixels 786432x32bit=25165824bits 25165824/8=3145728bytes 3145728/1048576=3MB 1280x1024=1310720pixels 1310720x32bit=41943040bits 41943040/8=5242880bytes 5242880/1048576=5MB Given that 4MB VRAM is adequate to display 1024x768 at 32bit, by the above calculations, the 8MB VRAM in the 770x should be more than adequate to display 1280x1024 at 32bit. What gives? Can someone check my math/logic? -John On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, Bruce Markowitz wrote: > That would be a limitation of the amount of Video memory. I asesume it > will do 1024X768 24 bit color? My 770EE (4MB VideoRam) will do 1024X768 > true color 32 bit full screen. > > Thomas A. Jones wrote: > > > > I called IBM Tech Support and got thru right away...a pleasant > > surprise compared to other computer companies. > > > > I was told that on 770X that when one goes to 32 bit color, screen > > will only be 3/4 size as I described in my last e-mail to this mailing > > list. > > > > It's hard for me to believe that if you want afull screen on your > > latoptop dispaly, the best you can go to is 16bit color on the > > 770X...could this be true? Any feedback would be appreciated... > > > > Thomas A. Jones > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 1 19:11:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA06873 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 19:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17953; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 19:11:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 1 Jan 1999 19:10:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17859; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 19:10:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17845; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 19:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from holygrail (mg135-032.ricochet.net [204.179.135.32]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA17027; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 16:10:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <008f01be35e4$40d63bb0$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "John G. Olyarchuk" , "Bruce Markowitz" Cc: "Thomas A. Jones" , "ThinkPad" Subject: Re: TP770X Display Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 16:10:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Sounds to me like the drivers are the problem. -----Original Message----- From: John G. Olyarchuk To: Bruce Markowitz Cc: Thomas A. Jones ; ThinkPad Date: Friday, January 01, 1999 3:46 PM Subject: Re: TP770X Display > >1024x768=786432pixels >786432x32bit=25165824bits >25165824/8=3145728bytes >3145728/1048576=3MB > >1280x1024=1310720pixels >1310720x32bit=41943040bits >41943040/8=5242880bytes >5242880/1048576=5MB > > >Given that 4MB VRAM is adequate to display 1024x768 at 32bit, by the above >calculations, the 8MB VRAM in the 770x should be more than adequate to >display 1280x1024 at 32bit. > >What gives? Can someone check my math/logic? > >-John > > >On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, Bruce Markowitz wrote: > >> That would be a limitation of the amount of Video memory. I asesume it >> will do 1024X768 24 bit color? My 770EE (4MB VideoRam) will do 1024X768 >> true color 32 bit full screen. >> >> Thomas A. Jones wrote: >> > >> > I called IBM Tech Support and got thru right away...a pleasant >> > surprise compared to other computer companies. >> > >> > I was told that on 770X that when one goes to 32 bit color, screen >> > will only be 3/4 size as I described in my last e-mail to this mailing >> > list. >> > >> > It's hard for me to believe that if you want afull screen on your >> > latoptop dispaly, the best you can go to is 16bit color on the >> > 770X...could this be true? Any feedback would be appreciated... >> > >> > Thomas A. Jones >> From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 1 23:03:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA08708 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 23:03:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22901; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 22:59:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 1 Jan 1999 22:58:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22810; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 22:58:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22795; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 22:58:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (82.p1.Ascend18.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.174.210]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id WAA07562; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 22:58:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <368D9974.5D7837E4@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 22:58:44 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Rubin CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770 peeling paint repair References: <199812300709.XAA01949@netcom8.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul.. on the two machines i had done, it was a new keyboard bezel, since thats the part that was peeling.. most likely replacement is the norm.. they would not be likely to repaint at memphis repair center, IMO.. Paul Rubin wrote: > For those who have gotten peeling paint repaired on their > 600 or 770, has the new paint started peeling? Or do they > replace it with something better than the old stuff? > Did they give you a new case, or just repaint the old one somehow? -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 00:00:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA09246 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:00:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24476; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 23:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 1 Jan 1999 23:57:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24356; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 23:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24342; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 23:57:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (82.p1.Ascend18.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.174.210]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id XAA17526; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 23:57:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <368DA735.9C624266@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 23:57:25 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Anderson, Damon" CC: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: Trying to find drivers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/support/thinkpad/tpopsys.html Anderson, Damon wrote: > Hi folks. > I am looking for a driver for the DOCK I for the thinkpad 755C. > > I am also looking for a way to use my external monitor with my docking > station and have not been able to get the drivers correct. > > I was going to re-install 95 and try but I don't know. > > Help. > > Thanks > > Damon -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 00:04:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA09292 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25548; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:02:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:01:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25083; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:01:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25016; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:00:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (82.p1.Ascend18.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.174.210]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id AAA18208; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:00:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <368DA800.50EC645C@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 00:00:48 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Bream CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701 Suspend References: <000f01be34c3$fef9bf80$572cd6d1@bbream> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Brian.. possibly, something might be accessing the PCMCIA HDD.. thus bringing the 701 out of suspend.. Brian Bream wrote: > Hello all, > > I just installed a PCMCIA IBM hard drive in my 701 and it won't suspend. > The screen goes blank and the internal hard drive shuts down but 3 seconds > later the internal hard drive powers up again. Stays in this cycle until I > take it out of suspend. The PCMCIA hard drive stays powered up through out > this cycle and the power light stays on. I have tried changing the settings > in setup for PCMCIA power from on to auto with no change in operation. > There isn't any settings I could find in windows that would tell the PCMCIA > to shut down during suspend. Is this "Just the way it is" or is there a way > to allow this TP to suspend with a PCMCIA hard drive ? > > TP701C - WIN 95 4.00.950 B - Un docked > > Thanks > Brian -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 00:26:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA09543 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:26:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26451; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:24:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:23:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26257; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:23:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from sh1.ro.com (IDENT:0@sh1.ro.com [205.216.92.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26245; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:23:07 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from socrates (ts2p13.ro.com [205.216.92.54]) by sh1.ro.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA07564 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 23:23:04 -0600 Message-Id: <199901020523.XAA07564@sh1.ro.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 23:07:33 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: AC detection problems X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.51 b51 List-Unsubscribe: I'm having an odd problem when my ThinkPad 765D is plugged into external power -- sometimes it decides there is no external power. I have checked my AC adapter, the cable that feeds it AC power from the outlet, the surge suppressor, and several outlets all known to be working. No problems there. It seems the problem is in the ThinkPad itself. When I have my ThinkPad plugged in and have the display open, usually it uses external power without trouble. But, if I close the ThinkPad while plugged in, it sometimes refuses to belive it's plugged in anymore. If turned on, it will drain the batteries. If in suspend mode, it uses external power and decreases its estimate of battery life as if the batter is in use (a fully charged batter starts at 13 to 15 days, and 10 hours later the ThinkPad says it'll last 22 more hours, but the battery is still fully charged). The only way to get around the problem seems to be to leave the ThinkPad unplugged for a few hours and try again. Unplugging it and immediately plugging it in again doesn't work. Even 10 minutes doesn't help. I've only tried this with charged batteries installed. The problem is intermittent, but very annoying since I do most of my work and computer based fun on it. It has happend twice almost within a week. Has anyone else had similar troubles? -------------------------------------------------- Windows95 -- An entomologist's dream Jeff Jackowski http://ro.com/~jeffj/ OS/2 WPS (Desktop) Tips, remote i-net dialup "Luncheon meats make the sawdust in your stomach explode." -- Crow T. Robot From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 01:21:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA09977 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:21:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27853; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:19:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:18:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27725; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:18:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27713; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:18:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p37.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.52]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA24586 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 22:10:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901020610.WAA24586@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 01 Jan 99 22:17:34 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: resetbat.exe for 701C List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 01 Jan 1999 13:57:45 -0800, Dave Sims wrote: >Am in need of this program for my aging 701C..can anyone on the list >either e-mail me the program or direst me to a download source? What exactly does this program do? Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3/2.4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 01:37:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA10106 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28463; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:35:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:35:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28368; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:35:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28356; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:35:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from randolph (rer-2.pr.mcs.net [205.253.105.82]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id AAA06605 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:35:12 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990102002316.00938160@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: rer@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 00:35:07 -0600 To: "ThinkPad List" From: "Richard E. Robbins" Subject: [TP701C] NT4 and Linux Combination In-Reply-To: <199901020610.WAA24586@ritchie.loop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have configured a Thinkpad 701C with Windows NT Workstation 4.0 (service pack 3) as well as RedHat Linux 5.2. The machine has a 4 gig disk partitioned to include four partitions. The first partition is a smallish Linux partition and includes /boot. The second partition is an NTFS partition with a bit less than 2 Gig that contains NT. The third partition is a similarly sized Linux partition that contains the balance of the Linux file system. The fourth partition is a Linux swap partition. The partitions were created with the current version of Partition Magic. The NTFS seems OK to NT's Disk Administrator tool. The Linux partitions don't seem to be problematic either. I use the NT loader with an entry for Linux. LILO is installed on the partition containing /boot. On several occasions I have gotten an error about corrupt or missing files (NTOSLDR perhaps?) when booting the system. The NT Emergency Repair Disk cures the problem. I can't replicate the error. The system has been shut down normally, either from Linux or NT, in each instance. Has anyone run into this problem before? Any clues? -- Rich From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 01:50:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA10215 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:50:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29089; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:49:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:48:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28991; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:48:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28978; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:48:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from atreyu (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id AAA06821 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:48:24 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990102004613.007b8100@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 00:46:13 -0600 To: "TP List" From: Ron Heiby Subject: RE: Recovery CD (Was: DVD - uggghhh!) In-Reply-To: <003501be34e6$c4b807f0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 09:55 AM 12/31/98 -0800, Michael Geary wrote: >System Commander After reading Michael's entire message, I was unable to determine what System Commander does that the BootMagic program from PowerQuest does. BootMagic comes along "free" with Partition Magic 4.0, and I am using it successfully to boot Win95 or WinNT or a very minimal MS-DOS on my TP770ED. BTW, I wouldn't recommend to anybody to try to set up such a system without Partition Magic. I made *extensive* use of it in getting things to work properly. (It seems that the NT 4.0 SP1 I installed from the MSDN discs has to have its boot partition below 2Gig. But, once SP4 was installed on top of that, it no longer seems to care that the boot partition has been enlarged by about 400 Meg beyond that line.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers iQA/AwUBNo3AsGasl5Jijs7SEQI5sACfXCeuj8dQrkRYx0s/UOtXVfzmg08AoMWY OWFxJGy+gTVfPsWYvsTRAVmZ =9f75 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 05:44:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA11615 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 05:44:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA10199; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 05:42:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 05:41:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA10073; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 05:41:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hil-img-9.compuserve.com (hil-img-9.compuserve.com [149.174.177.139]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA10060; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 05:41:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by hil-img-9.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.17) id FAA26154 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 05:40:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 05:40:30 -0500 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: FS:Thinkpad 755 Memory and Adapter Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: List Message-ID: <199901020540_MC2-653A-2A1C@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: FS:Thinkpad 755 Memory and Adapter I am selling my 16Mb SO DIMM and the Adapter card for the Thinkpad 755 range: 16Mb SO DIMM 35.00 UKpounds SO DIMM Adapter 25.00 UKpounds both inc p+p By utilising the SO DIMM Adapter, you can upgrade memory to the max spec with the much cheaper SO DIMM memory modules. Please email or Tel: 01251 710141if of interest Mark From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 08:40:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA12233 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 08:40:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13119; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 08:38:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 08:37:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12954; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 08:37:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail11.svr.pol.co.uk (mail11.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12942; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 08:37:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from modem-77.indium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.24.77] helo=silp200) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 0zwREi-0005aR-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:37:01 +0000 Message-ID: <005901be3655$5940eda0$4d18883e@silp200> From: "Ed" To: Subject: 750cs HDD problems Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:39:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Hiya... Happy new year to all on the list. I have an old 750CS which I received without a HDD. I have acquired a Toshiba 340Mb drive for it along with the connection cable. I am having a reliability problem when trying to access the drive. I have checked the flexicable and it is ok, and the HDD has been checked on another machine, and is also ok. When using PCcheck diagnostics, it reports the correct drive parameters but says that the BIOS setup has been locked and does not see the drive. I have no passwords on the machine, but the HDD password option in the setup program is always greyed out. Does anyone know anything about this problem? Can anyone help? My next option that I can see is to strip the machine down and check it all for dry joints - quite probable on a machine of this age, but before I do that I would like to know if there is something stupid that I am doing. Thanks in advance... Ed Brown From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 10:51:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA13041 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:51:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15358; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:49:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:48:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15253; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:48:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet.sover.net (garnet.sover.net [209.198.87.53]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15241; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:48:31 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from MYHOSTNAME (usr2a46.burl.sover.net [207.136.201.46]) by garnet.sover.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA22464 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:48:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901021548.KAA22464@garnet.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on garnet.sover.net) MYHOSTNAME from usr2a46.burl.sover.net [207.136.201.46] 207.136.201.46 Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:48:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 10:43:58 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Best Place to watch for new ThinkPad's? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.51 b51 List-Unsubscribe: Are there any places (besides here) where one might find indications of new ThinkPads? I'm ready to go the bucks for a TP 600 (and it took time to get here), but I also suspect that the one SXGA screen is in the works -- and I just hate to buy a month too soon, or something like that. _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 11:39:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA13362 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:39:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16743; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:37:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:36:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16538; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:36:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16526; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:36:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.19.47]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990102163608.HKIG15946@770>; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:36:08 +0000 Message-ID: <368E4B99.90C@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 11:38:49 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ron Heiby CC: TP List Subject: Re: Recovery CD (Was: DVD - uggghhh!) References: <3.0.5.32.19990102004613.007b8100@popmail.mcs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Just don't change any settings in one OS without having everything set to "automatic" in device manager in the other os! You'll spend days getting it to work again! Seems the OS sets iup the settings in the BIOS in this model! Ron Heiby wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > At 09:55 AM 12/31/98 -0800, Michael Geary wrote: > >System Commander > > After reading Michael's entire message, I was unable to determine what System > Commander does that the BootMagic program from PowerQuest does. BootMagic > comes along "free" with Partition Magic 4.0, and I am using it successfully to > boot Win95 or WinNT or a very minimal MS-DOS on my TP770ED. > > BTW, I wouldn't recommend to anybody to try to set up such a system without > Partition Magic. I made *extensive* use of it in getting things to work > properly. (It seems that the NT 4.0 SP1 I installed from the MSDN discs has to > have its boot partition below 2Gig. But, once SP4 was installed on top of > that, it no longer seems to care that the boot partition has been enlarged by > about 400 Meg beyond that line.) > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 > Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers > > iQA/AwUBNo3AsGasl5Jijs7SEQI5sACfXCeuj8dQrkRYx0s/UOtXVfzmg08AoMWY > OWFxJGy+gTVfPsWYvsTRAVmZ > =9f75 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 11:50:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA13430 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:50:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17453; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:48:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:48:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17346; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:48:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from cedar.netten.net (root@cedar.netten.net [205.244.191.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17334; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:47:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from netten.net (net2-99.netten.net [206.229.193.99]) by cedar.netten.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA07062 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:47:55 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <368E5266.E5FFC529@netten.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 11:07:53 -0600 From: Mark Beadle Reply-To: mrbeadle@netten.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad List Subject: thinkpad 380Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I'm considering buying a thinkpad 380Z (300 pentium II model). If anyone has any experience/advice about this laptop they could share, it would be appreciated. I've also been getting conflicting information about the maximum amount of ram this model can take . . . some are saying 96megs others 160megs. Thanks. Mark From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 12:22:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA13670 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:22:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18610; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:20:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:19:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18462; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:19:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from cedar.netten.net (root@cedar.netten.net [205.244.191.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18450; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:19:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from netten.net (net2-99.netten.net [206.229.193.99]) by cedar.netten.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA08429 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:19:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <368E59C7.CBF69F83@netten.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 11:39:23 -0600 From: Mark Beadle Reply-To: mrbeadle@netten.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: thinkpad 380Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I'm considering buying a thinkpad 380Z (300 pentium II model). If anyone has any experience/advice about this laptop they could share, it would be appreciated. I've also been getting conflicting information about the maximum amount of ram this model can take . . . some are saying 96megs others 160megs. Thanks. Mark From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 13:04:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA13996 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:04:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19663; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:00:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:00:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19571; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:00:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19558; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:59:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [207.155.184.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/08/04 5.11)) id MAA03825; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:59:53 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from concentric.net (ts007d05.okc-ok.concentric.net [206.173.177.65]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id MAA21845; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:59:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <368E5E76.5BA0ADE6@concentric.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 11:59:18 -0600 From: "Robert D. Baron" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP600: Gamepad to serial port? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I've got a TP600 (model 264545U; preinstalled Win98; upgraded to IBM bios v1.06); I bought a Gravis Stinger laptop gamepad/joy stick....it plugs into the serial port...and I can't get the serial port to agree that it is connected. I have (I believe) properly (a) installed the Gravis software, (b) disabled the TP infrared port, (c) enabled the TP serial port....everything seems to be ok, it's just that the device is said to be 'not connected' (it is recognized as installed, just not as 'connected'). I talked to IBM tech support this morning and the tech said I had done everything correctly re: configuration, and that (of course) I must talk to the vendor to troubleshoot the problem further. Also (of course) Gravis tech support is closed on weekends and during the week when I have free time to deal with this. Anyone had any experience with this and/or got any ideas? TIA & Happy New Year to all. --Bob Baron From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 13:28:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA14184 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:28:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20696; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:23:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:23:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20525; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from spock.ecs.umass.edu (spock.ecs.umass.edu [128.119.91.44]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20511; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:23:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from vkelkar@localhost) by spock.ecs.umass.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06918 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:23:01 -0500 (EST) From: Vaibhav V Kelkar Message-Id: <199901021823.NAA06918@spock.ecs.umass.edu> Subject: Re : 380Z To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:23:00 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU" at Jan 2, 99 12:15:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text List-Unsubscribe: hi, i just bought the 233 PII 380Z a couple of weeks ago. very nice system, though i wish it came with a modem. the max RAM is 96 MB, at least for the 233 II model. all online catalogs list it as 96MB, while IBM's website lists it as 160 MB. i called IBM customer service, and he said he was certain that the max RAM is 96MB. vaibhav >Hello, > >I'm considering buying a thinkpad 380Z (300 pentium II model). If anyone >has any experience/advice about this laptop they could share, it would >be appreciated. I've also been getting conflicting information about the >maximum amount of ram this model can take . . . some are saying 96megs >others 160megs. Thanks. > >Mark From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 13:52:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA14359 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:52:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21653; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:47:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:47:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21546; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:47:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21534; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:47:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl (user-38s0bmm.dialup.mindspring.com [209.192.46.214]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA05066 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:47:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990102134704.00b0ca30@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 13:47:04 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: thinkpad 380Z In-Reply-To: <368E5266.E5FFC529@netten.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:07 AM 1/2/99 -0600, Mark Beadle wrote: >I'm considering buying a thinkpad 380Z (300 pentium II model). If anyone >has any experience/advice about this laptop they could share, it would >be appreciated. I've also been getting conflicting information about the >maximum amount of ram this model can take . . . some are saying 96megs >others 160megs. Thanks. > According to IBM, it's 160MB: NT preload (2635-JBU) http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/wwwthinkpads/9E7A71CD3A2CA2A6852566EC 002F43EB Win98 preload (2635-JGU) http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/wwwthinkpads/9302F851742AABC6852566EC 003396BE From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 15:31:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA15331 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:31:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24867; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:28:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:27:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24714; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:27:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (cave@cavecreations.com [192.41.27.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24701; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:27:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id NAA24424; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:27:06 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:27:06 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199901022027.NAA24424@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Best Place to watch for new ThinkPad's? List-Unsubscribe: > I'm ready to go the bucks for a TP 600 (and it took time to get > here), but I also suspect that the one SXGA screen is in the works > -- and I just hate to buy a month too soon, or something like that. I'll tell you what you probably don't want to hear :( ... You can wait as long as you like, and once SXGA comes, they will come out with a 1 gigahertz machine that runs on ionized water. If you keep on waiting, everything you want will come out, and you'll end up like I was for a while (with a P90 laptop, waiting for this feature and that feature to come out). The 600E is relatively new, and looks like in 2-3 months will gain a 366 mhz processor (I think that will be about it). Clearly a 600X will come out eventually with a 13.7" TFT with SXGA (it definitely fits), but I don't think there is sufficient quantity in production right now, nor the sufficient demand to justify it (for the moment). Not saying that you don't have a need for it (I need it), but people who demand that kind of screen just go ahead with the 770X and spend their bucks. As far as I see, unless you crave the faster processor, you should get the existing 600E and be happy with your decision. What I ended up doing was this: set a goal, and stick with it. Here was mine-- I wanted a 13.3"/14.1" lightweight machine with AGP, a DVD drive and Video Out. I wanted a machine with a major brand name (Toshiba, IBM), and supported a multifunction bay that took a ZIP drive. I needed thin, and extra light. I wanted the fastest processor available at the time. When the TP600 came out, I almost jumped at it. Then I took a second look and said... well, there's no AGP, and no DVD/vid out. And at the time, VST didn't make a TP600 ZIP drive. So I hung tight. When the 600E was announced, it met all my requirements (and VST had the ZIP drive for the 600), so that was it... $4974 for the computer, the ZIP, and the 600E Ultraslim bay battery (still backordered). I have been happy with it since. Of course, I'll be jealous when the 100mhz bus comes out and when the 366mhz machines come out, but I'll deal with it. If the SXGA is important, by all means, sit it out and wait for it. Otherwise, know that the machine you buy is going to be phenomenal. Sure the money doesn't come easily, but at some point you will have to cave in. My parents waited 14 years to buy a VCR. They bought one 3 years ago for the very first time. My dad just finally said... I guess they'll come out with something better every time. Of course, now he's mad he didn't wait for DVD, but he seems happy being able to go to Blockbuster and see all these movies he never saw before. -Al -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 15:49:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA15457 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:49:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25601; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:47:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:46:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25478; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:46:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (cave@cavecreations.com [192.41.27.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25463; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:46:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id NAA17979; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:46:10 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:46:10 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199901022046.NAA17979@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: HDD adapter and 128mb RAM List-Unsubscribe: What's the going rate these days for the 128mb RAM chip for the 600E? Also, where can I find the HDD adapter to allow me to slide a second HD into the Ultraslim Bay of my 600E? Is it expensive? -Al -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 15:58:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA15514 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26157; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:55:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26072; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:55:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26060; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:55:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p08.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.23]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA14163; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:52:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901022052.MAA14163@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Ron Heiby" , "TP List" Date: Sat, 02 Jan 99 12:54:26 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Recovery CD (Was: DVD - uggghhh!) List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 02 Jan 1999 00:46:13 -0600, Ron Heiby wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >At 09:55 AM 12/31/98 -0800, Michael Geary wrote: >>System Commander > >After reading Michael's entire message, I was unable to determine what System >Commander does that the BootMagic program from PowerQuest does. BootMagic BootMagic? Or do you mean BootManager, which comes with Partition Magic (at least from 3.0)? Boot Manager comes with OS/2, and is great at having multiple OSes on 1 computer, but it has limitations based on which OSes can boot from which types of drives (primary or logical partitions), and there is a partition limit. >comes along "free" with Partition Magic 4.0, and I am using it successfully to >boot Win95 or WinNT or a very minimal MS-DOS on my TP770ED. > >BTW, I wouldn't recommend to anybody to try to set up such a system without >Partition Magic. I made *extensive* use of it in getting things to work >properly. Why? If you're starting out from scratch, FDISK works very well. I just wish MS would improve their versions of FDISK... =( (It seems that the NT 4.0 SP1 I installed from the MSDN discs has to >have its boot partition below 2Gig. But, once SP4 was installed on top of >that, it no longer seems to care that the boot partition has been enlarged by >about 400 Meg beyond that line.) > Or you could have enough room for NT, and put applications on another logical drive. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 16:28:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA15752 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:28:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27054; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:26:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:25:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26959; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:25:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smh-mail.smh.com (smh-mail.smh.com [204.5.150.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26947; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:25:51 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from ccMail by smh-mail.smh.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 0008DDE2; Sat, 2 Jan 99 16:11:31 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:25:32 -0500 Message-ID: <0008DDE2.CE21223@smh.com> Subject: Re: HDD adapter and 128mb RAM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, "Albert C. Lee" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part List-Unsubscribe: Hi Al, The HDD adapter is readily available for about $30. I think I got mine at Hardwarestreet.com. Very cool. With Drive Image it made it a snap to copy my 4gB HD to a 6.4 gB HD and then swap em out. Plus I've got 10+gB of drive space! BTW, how's the DVD playback of MPEG-2 movies like? Do you need a pccard to do the decoding? Neil TP 600 P2/266 128mB TP 770ED P2/266 128mB TP 701C DX2/50 20mB ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: HDD adapter and 128mb RAM Author: "Albert C. Lee" at Internet Date: 1/2/99 1:46 PM What's the going rate these days for the 128mb RAM chip for the 600E? Also, where can I find the HDD adapter to allow me to slide a second HD into the Ultraslim Bay of my 600E? Is it expensive? -Al -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 16:38:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA15820 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:38:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27735; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:37:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:36:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27566; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:36:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27554; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:36:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from atreyu (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id PAA04519; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:36:16 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990102153609.0084cea0@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 15:36:09 -0600 To: "Paul Khoury" From: Ron Heiby Subject: RE: Recovery CD (Was: DVD - uggghhh!) Cc: "TP List" In-Reply-To: <199901022052.MAA14163@stevie.loop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 12:54 PM 1/2/99 -0800, Paul Khoury wrote: >BootMagic? Or do you mean BootManager, >which comes with Partition Magic (at least from 3.0)? No. I mean BootMagic that >>comes along "free" with Partition Magic 4.0 >>BTW, I wouldn't recommend to anybody to try to set up such a >>system without Partition Magic. >Why? If you're starting out from scratch, FDISK works very well. Well, if you know exactly how you want to partition your disk from the start, then FDISK works just fine. Or, if you are willing to back up everything, destroy everything, re-create everything differently, and restore everything each time you want to make a change, then FDISK works just fine, too. (Naturally, you should have backups before using any such utility. However, if things don't get screwed up, you don't have to spend time doing the restores.) >Or you could have enough room for NT, and put applications on another >logical drive. Well, I thought that I did leave enough room for NT, putting my compilers, etc. out on that secondary partition (which I thought I mentioned). But, even re-directing all the installs to go out to F: (for example), Microsoft *loves* to load lots of stuff onto C:. When I was all done, I had something like 50 Meg left free on C:, which I didn't feel was quite enough. That's why I increased its size after everything got installed. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers iQA/AwUBNo6RRGasl5Jijs7SEQI+HQCfR44DSpJOAQIowL1ZKzdKM8dAzpcAoJgp YYSY6vZ3RqIc1qEoZUvH2DDA =lHAJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 16:47:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA15892 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:47:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28195; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:45:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:44:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28110; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:44:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28098; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:44:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901022144.QAA28098@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Sun, 1 Jan 1989 14:41:40 -0800 (PST) From: "Victor Kress" To: "Paul Khoury" , "Ron Heiby" Cc: "TP List" Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 13:45:04 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Recovery CD (Was: DVD - uggghhh!) List-Unsubscribe: I think BootMagic is a slicker, more graphical version of Boot Manager. It comes with the latest Partition Magic. On Sat, 02 Jan 1999 15:36:09 -0600, Ron Heiby wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >At 12:54 PM 1/2/99 -0800, Paul Khoury wrote: >>BootMagic? Or do you mean BootManager, >>which comes with Partition Magic (at least from 3.0)? > >No. I mean BootMagic that >>>comes along "free" with Partition Magic 4.0 > >>>BTW, I wouldn't recommend to anybody to try to set up such a >>>system without Partition Magic. > >>Why? If you're starting out from scratch, FDISK works very well. > >Well, if you know exactly how you want to partition your disk from the start, >then FDISK works just fine. Or, if you are willing to back up everything, >destroy everything, re-create everything differently, and restore everything >each time you want to make a change, then FDISK works just fine, too. >(Naturally, you should have backups before using any such utility. However, if >things don't get screwed up, you don't have to spend time doing the restores.) > >>Or you could have enough room for NT, and put applications on another >>logical drive. > >Well, I thought that I did leave enough room for NT, putting my compilers, >etc. out on that secondary partition (which I thought I mentioned). But, even >re-directing all the installs to go out to F: (for example), Microsoft *loves* >to load lots of stuff onto C:. When I was all done, I had something like 50 >Meg left free on C:, which I didn't feel was quite enough. That's why I >increased its size after everything got installed. > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 >Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers > >iQA/AwUBNo6RRGasl5Jijs7SEQI+HQCfR44DSpJOAQIowL1ZKzdKM8dAzpcAoJgp >YYSY6vZ3RqIc1qEoZUvH2DDA >=lHAJ >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >-- >Ron. ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 17:04:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA16055 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 17:04:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29161; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 17:01:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 17:00:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28908; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 17:00:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28872; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 17:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p08.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.23]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA17797 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:58:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901022158.NAA17797@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 02 Jan 99 14:00:06 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: OT: DVD List-Unsubscribe: I noticed a lot of talk about DVD, and was wondering if somebody could help me with some DVD questions OFF the list. 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Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3/2.4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 17:04:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA16059 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 17:04:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29157; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 17:01:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 17:00:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28885; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 17:00:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28865; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 17:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p08.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.23]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA17774; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:57:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901022157.NAA17774@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Ron Heiby" , "Victor Kress" Cc: "TP List" Date: Sat, 02 Jan 99 13:59:30 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Recovery CD (Was: DVD - uggghhh!) 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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BE3693.6DAAB8F0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 21:10:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA18903 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:10:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05167; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:08:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:08:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05085; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:08:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from onlink4.onlink.net (onlink4.onlink.net [206.108.253.68]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05064; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:08:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from nrba1-7.onlink.net (nrba1-7.onlink.net [207.210.99.39]) by onlink4.onlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA62444 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:08:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199901030208.VAA62444@onlink4.onlink.net> From: "Alex Bell" To: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 21:04:35 +0000 Reply-To: "Alex Bell" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Ehanced Port Replicator List-Unsubscribe: I intend to buy an Enhanced Port Replicator to use with my Thinkpad 385XD running OS/2. Anyone using one with this setup? Anything to be wary about? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 22:14:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA19688 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:14:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07028; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:11:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06847; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:11:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.enteract.com (thor.enteract.com [207.229.143.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06835; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4866 invoked from network); 3 Jan 1999 03:11:26 -0000 Received: from usrx2-61.chi-focal.enteract.com (207.229.172.61) by thor.enteract.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 1999 03:11:26 -0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: OT: DVD Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 03:10:20 GMT Message-ID: <3691dddd.104698318@smtp.enteract.com> References: <199901022158.NAA17797@stevie.loop.com> In-Reply-To: <199901022158.NAA17797@stevie.loop.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 02 Jan 99 14:00:06 , you wrote: >I noticed a lot of talk about DVD, and was wondering if somebody >could help me with some DVD questions OFF the list. >Thanks. If you mean you want info about DVD using computers, nope, I can't offer much because I haven't tried the Creative or Toshiba computer players, and I don't think I want to try running the Freecom Traveler or EXP external DVD players on a 10.4" TFT like the Sony 505 I use primarily now (especially since the complete external set-up costs more than my stand-alone player!). But if you just want general DVD info, I know a little about them. I've got a Panasonic A110 using an S-video connection to a 32" Toshiba set, and about 70 discs (I'll have another 40 by the end of the month, though). Feel free to email.=09 epbrown Portable Computing FAQ - http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown Sony VAIO 505 info - http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown/sony505.html List Admin - Sony VAIO 505 Mailing List From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 2 23:15:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA20348 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:15:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08308; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:14:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:13:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08189; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:13:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.access1.net (mail.access1.net [206.13.101.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08176; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:13:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from lizard [207.104.109.138] by mail.access1.net (SMTPD32-4.07) id AE3665700F0; Sat, 02 Jan 1999 20:12:38 PST Message-ID: <368EEF81.388D@access1.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 20:18:09 -0800 From: "J. Michael Edwards" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Too Much Volume Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 01:39:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA21737 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:39:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11935; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:37:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:36:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11852; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:36:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11840; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:36:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (73.p1.Ascend18.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.174.201]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA24774; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:36:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <368F0FF1.C6D8FA3B@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 01:36:33 -0500 From: "Bill Morrow - http://thinkpads.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 750cs HDD problems References: <005901be3655$5940eda0$4d18883e@silp200> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ed.. is the connecting cable and HDD shell assembly an IBM one..? Ed wrote: > > Hiya... > > Happy new year to all on the list. > > I have an old 750CS which I received without a HDD. I have acquired a > Toshiba 340Mb drive for it along with the connection cable. > > I am having a reliability problem when trying to access the drive. I have > checked the flexicable and it is ok, and the HDD has been checked on another > machine, and is also ok. When using PCcheck diagnostics, it reports the > correct drive parameters but says that the BIOS setup has been locked and > does not see the drive. I have no passwords on the machine, but the HDD > password option in the setup program is always greyed out. > > Does anyone know anything about this problem? Can anyone help? My next > option that I can see is to strip the machine down and check it all for dry > joints - quite probable on a machine of this age, but before I do that I > would like to know if there is something stupid that I am doing. > > Thanks in advance... > > Ed Brown -- Live long and prosper, Happy Trails... Happy Holidays, ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 260meg), 701C(6.4gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver, Do not try this at home, Don't spit into the wind AND, GoodNIGHT, Mrs. Calabash, whereEVER you are... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 02:22:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA22198 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:22:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13086; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:20:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12930; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:20:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (root@jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12917; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:20:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from dante29.u.washington.edu (williams@dante29.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.103]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id XAA37448 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:19:59 -0800 Received: from localhost (williams@localhost) by dante29.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id XAA28914 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:19:58 -0800 Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:19:58 -0800 (PST) From: "J. 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Thanks, JOhn From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 02:45:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA22381 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:45:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13739; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:43:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13654; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:43:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13642; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:43:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p38.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.53]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA19940; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:40:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901030740.XAA19940@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Ed" Date: Sat, 02 Jan 99 23:42:34 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 750cs HDD problems List-Unsubscribe: Have you upgraded to the latest BIOS? I'm surprised, it should detect the drive and work okay. Does it even boot up from the drive? Have you tried a lowlevel format? Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3/2.4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 02:54:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA22444 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14267; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:52:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:51:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14071; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:0@merkez.cypronet.net [193.192.125.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14057; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:51:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ip-193-192-124-3.cypronet.net (ip-193-192-124-3.cypronet.net [193.192.124.3]) by localhost.localdomain (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA23630 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 10:04:52 +0200 Message-Id: <199901030804.KAA23630@localhost.localdomain> From: "Thom Parkhill" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 09:36:59 +0200 (EET) Reply-To: "Thom Parkhill" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [tp380d] keyboard lockup List-Unsubscribe: I'm experiencing frequent lockups of my keyboard. It's clearly my big clumsy fingers which get bigger and clumsier as I try to type faster, still, I'm wondering if there is a solution. Here's what happens, I'm typing along (using Warp 4, fixpack 7 in a pm or vio os/2 program, or in a dos box) and hit the trackpoint stick (aka eraser head) and a key or two at the same time, and I'm locked up with beeping keys, in all programs, and on the desktop. The pointer still works so I can close everything down, but even a CAD won't work because all the keys will do is beep. So I have to physically turn the computer off to clear the problem. I can replicate the problem by typing fast and bumping the trackpoint stick. Any ideas about what to do about this, besides slowing down or getting new fingers? Thanks, Thom. Thom Parkhill Department of Religious Studies St. Thomas Unversity Fredericton, N.B. Canada until July, 1999: parkhill@cypronet.net after July, 1999: parkhill@stthomasu.ca From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 02:55:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA22455 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:55:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14395; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:53:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:51:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14130; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:51:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14106; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:51:46 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from MoxFulder1@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id IYOVa03482 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:51:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:51:02 EST To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Too Much Volume Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 04:41:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA23585 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 04:41:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA18104; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 04:39:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 04:38:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17864; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 04:38:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (mailbox.adm.binghamton.edu [128.226.10.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17852; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 04:38:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp.binghamton.edu (117.new-york-15rs.ny.dial-access.att.net [12.78.243.117]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA09625 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 04:38:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901030938.EAA09625@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Ken's E-mail Client 1998 Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 04:38:06 -0500 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [AnyLaptop] What's needed to use US laptop in Europe? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Sorry, not Thinkpad specific: What will I need to get for my US laptop so I can use it in England? What power and phone adapters are needed? Are proprietary adapters needed, or is this stuff really generic? Thanks! Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 06:48:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA24417 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 06:48:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24324; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 06:46:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 06:45:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24174; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 06:45:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.svr.pol.co.uk (mail1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24161; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 06:45:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from modem-30.promethium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.30.30] helo=silp200) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 0zwly1-0001Hy-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:45:09 +0000 Message-ID: <004101be370e$e4921000$1e1e883e@silp200> From: "Ed" To: Subject: 750cs hdd Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:47:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Many thanks to all that have replyed to my predicament. A bit for information for you all... The drive is not an IBM part, it is not in a caddy but I presume that the cable is correct as I have had the drive working once or twice, indeed I have managed to install some software on it, but when I restarted the machine it could no longer see the drive. The drive is a Toshiba MK2326FC for which I have obtained the spec and jumper info. I have no information as to whether the thinkpad uses Master/Slave or Cable select HDD's - perhaps someone knows? The main problem is that at startup when the machine checks for installed devices it doesn't see the HDD. I am relatively convinced that it is a Master/Slave or Cable select problem - but it could be the thinkpad itself - I don't know. Again many thanks for your continued help.... Ed Brown From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 06:50:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA24438 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 06:50:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24609; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 06:48:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 06:47:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24455; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 06:47:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.svr.pol.co.uk (mail1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24443; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 06:47:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from modem-30.promethium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.30.30] helo=silp200) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 0zwm0L-0001U5-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:47:33 +0000 Message-ID: <004d01be370f$3a4fd4a0$1e1e883e@silp200> From: "Ed" To: Subject: 750cs hdd additional Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:50:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Additional information re: Paul Khoury's email. I have upgraded the BIOS to the latest revision on the IBM website. Yes, the drive will boot quite happily, but only very occasionaly. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 10:14:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA25976 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 10:14:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27631; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 09:53:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 09:52:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27501; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 09:52:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27480; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 09:52:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial15.vramp.net (dial15.vramp.net [209.107.20.30]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA19312; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 09:52:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901031452.JAA19312@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: Ken , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 09:45:38 -0500 Subject: Re: [AnyLaptop] What's needed to use US laptop in Europe? Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <199901030938.EAA09625@mail.binghamton.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 3 Jan 99, at 4:38, Ken wrote: > What will I need to get for my US laptop so I can use it in England? What > power and phone adapters are needed? Are proprietary adapters needed, or > is this stuff really generic? All you'll need is a UK to US plug converter. The "powerbrick" transformer will run just as happily on 220V 50Hz as it does on 110V 60Hz. another one of the things that IBM got absolutely right. Regards, James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. CaptJHEM@waterw.com Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 10:58:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA26244 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 10:58:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28702; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 10:44:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 10:43:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28591; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 10:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from ionet.net (macprice@mail.ionet.net [206.41.128.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28579; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 10:43:40 -0500 (EST) From: Received: (from macprice@localhost) by ionet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id JAA12328; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 09:45:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 09:45:52 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199901031545.JAA12328@ionet.net> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad 500 for sale. List-Unsubscribe: I am selling my old Thinkpad 500, for anyone interested the url is: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=53029430 It comes with an 80 meg HD, 12 Megs Ram, and two PCMCIA modems, one 14.4 and one 56k, so it may be of interest for parts to some. Mac From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 11:21:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA26378 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:21:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29747; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:11:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29624; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:11:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from fh102.infi.net (fh102.infi.net [208.131.160.101]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29605; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:11:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pavilion (pm1-47.jax.infi.net [206.154.153.47]) by fh102.infi.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA07248 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:11:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <368F974C.40AA@tu.infi.net> Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 11:14:04 -0500 From: "David O. Booher" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 12:16:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA26750 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:16:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01891; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:14:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:13:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01706; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from seismo.de.uu.net (intramail.de.uu.net [192.76.144.32]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01693; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:12:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from notes1.de.uu.net by seismo.de.uu.net with SMTP (5.61c:012/UUNETdeLAN-2.1a15-1.2.10) via UUNET for id SAA15991; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:12:48 +0100 (MET) X-zyzzy: 90% Received: by notes1.de.uu.net(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id C12566EE.005E73F6 ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:11:40 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: UUNET-DE From: "Michael Huehne" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <412566EE.005E006F.00@notes1.de.uu.net> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:11:36 +0100 Subject: unsubscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 12:50:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA27131 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:50:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03381; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:48:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:47:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03269; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:47:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03252; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:47:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.31.237]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990103174704.JOKN20818@dts-jl> for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:47:04 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990103124700.00a11470@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 12:47:00 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Use 701 FDD on 600? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone know if there's a cable available that will let me use the 701 floppy drive with a 600? Thanks - Jane From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 12:57:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA27168 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:57:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03943; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:55:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:54:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03855; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:54:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03843; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from paddy (mg131-013.ricochet.net [204.179.131.13]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA23285; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:54:42 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Albert C. Lee" , Subject: RE: HDD adapter and 128mb RAM Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 09:54:42 -0800 Message-ID: <002501be3742$23da9790$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199901022046.NAA17979@cavecreations.com> List-Unsubscribe: > What's the going rate these days for the 128mb RAM chip for the 600E? Go to shopper.com, search for "thinkpad 600 128mb". (Don't type the quotes.) > Also, where can I find the HDD adapter to allow me to slide a second > HD into the Ultraslim Bay of my 600E? Is it expensive? Go to shopper.com, search for "ultraslimbay hdd adapter". Of the vendors listed on those products, Hardware Street and CMPExpress both have good prices and reputation. There's also a good chance Bill Morrow at www.thinkpads.com has these items, and he's great to deal with. -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 13:59:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA27602 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 13:59:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06539; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 13:55:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 13:54:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06358; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 13:54:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from repop2.jps.net (repop2.jps.net [209.63.224.239]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06346; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 13:54:30 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from jps.net (209-239-194-56.oak.jps.net [209.239.194.56]) by repop2.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07763 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 10:54:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <368FBD13.BD3B8111@jps.net> Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 10:55:15 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad List Subject: Source for a Multiport for a 701C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I recently been given a 701C and I'm looking for a source other than IBM for the Multiport port replicator that originally shipped with it. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 15:32:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA28438 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 15:32:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09741; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 15:32:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 15:31:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09654; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 15:31:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09642; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 15:31:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23822 invoked by uid 66); 3 Jan 1999 20:31:43 -0000 Received: from seneca by slarti with UUCP; 03 Jan 1999 20:31:43 -0000 (GMT) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Harald Milz Newsgroups: local.ml.thinkpad Subject: Re: Sound with Redhat Linux and Thinkpad 770 Date: 3 Jan 1999 18:11:33 GMT Organization: Linux.DE Lines: 14 Message-ID: <76obsl$3so$4@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> References: <002f01be351d$f1c69680$0100a8c0@spawn> Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de NNTP-Posting-Host: seneca.muc.de X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! 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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 11:40:58 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <199901031452.JAA19312@water.vramp.net> Lines: 41 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: In article <199901031452.JAA19312@water.vramp.net>, "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: :On 3 Jan 99, at 4:38, Ken wrote: : :> What will I need to get for my US laptop so I can use it in England? What :> power and phone adapters are needed? Are proprietary adapters needed, or :> is this stuff really generic? For electrical power ... :All you'll need is a UK to US plug converter. The "powerbrick" transformer will :run just as happily on 220V 50Hz as it does on 110V 60Hz. another one of :the things that IBM got absolutely right. : In other words, you don't need a transformer, you just need a plug converter, for the 701 at least. I believe that applies to a lot of other Thinkpads, but not necessarily to other computers (though it was true, for example, of a 1988-era Datavue Spark portable, too). As far as phones / modems go, things may not be so simple. At least a couple of years ago, it was *illegal* to use a non-approved device in the UK. However, in practice, the devices I used worked. However, the plug-in at the other end is different from in North America. You might be able to pick up the correct cord at an electronics shop (which is where I picked up the plug converter, though you can also get them at airports, ... in Canada even London Drugs stocks plug converter kits) in Tottenham Court Road in London, and some British telephones have the correct cord which could be removed. The cord might go from the telephone to the wall, or from the handset to the phone itself. Does somebody from the UK have more up-to-date info? -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 17:11:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA29443 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:11:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21408; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:11:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:10:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21267; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:10:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.lig.bellsouth.net (mail2.lig.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21235; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:10:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (host-209-214-174-155.owb.bellsouth.net [209.214.174.155]) by mail2.lig.bellsouth.net (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA12449 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:09:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990103161830.006b5ab8@mail.lig.bellsouth.net> X-Sender: donhagan@mail.lig.bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:18:30 -0600 To: From: Donnie Hagan Subject: 755 hdd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I am upgrading from a 500 meg hdd to 1.08 gig, I need to make a bootable copy from my old hdd. Will drive copy work? It is a 755ce, my win 95 disc is cd, and I only have an externel cd. If i start from the beginning, how can i install the drivers for the pcmcia card on a floppy, to make the computer boot and recognize my cd drive so I can install min 95? Thanks. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 18:30:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA00506 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:30:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29573; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:27:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:27:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29479; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:27:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.svr.pol.co.uk (mail1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29467; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:26:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from modem-92.barium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.27.220] helo=silp200) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 0zwwvB-0005KJ-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:26:58 +0000 Message-ID: <003401be3770$ef9903c0$dc1b883e@silp200> From: "Ed" To: "Thinkpad mailing list" Subject: Donnie Hagan - 755 win 95 Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:29:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Hi Donnie.... I am fairly new to the world of laptops but I am used to dealing with desktop pc's. If you have a desktop PC you could use or borrow then you could use the same W95 installation method that I have. What you need to do is use a product such as Laplink etc to make the CD on the desktop machine appear as a virtual drive on the laptop, then you use the desktop CD as if it was connected to the thinkpad. It is incredibly slow (I left mine overnight) and is probably the most inefficient way of doing things but it works. One question - How did you get the original Win 95 on the machine ? I presume that you used the external CD to read from the disk, therefore you should have DOS drivers for it? Finally, I may be interested in buying your old drive if we can negotiate a good price for both of us. Please reply OFF the list if you are interested in this proposition. My email address is ed@silvermoon.freeserve.co.uk From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 19:12:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA00990 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 19:12:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01176; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 19:10:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 19:09:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01066; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 19:09:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from home2.gmx.net (qmailr@home2.gmx.net [195.63.104.122]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01049; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 19:09:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5035 invoked by alias); 4 Jan 1999 00:09:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990104000934.5034.qmail@home2.gmx.net> From: "Notebook/2 Site - Dr. Martinus" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 07:53:37 +0100 (MEZ) Reply-To: "Notebook/2 Site - Dr. Martinus" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: OS/2 notebook mailing list List-Unsubscribe: Hi, there is a new mailing list for OS/2 on notebook computers. For those who are interested: http://www.os2ss.com/users/DrMartinus/notebook.htm select "mailing lists" from the main menu section (top left) then select the "Discussion List" and enter your email address select subscribe and click on the button. Everything else is self-explaining Dr. Martinus ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Martinus The Notebook/2 Site at http://www.os2ss.com/users/DrMartinus/Notebook.htm My other sites: http://www.os2ss.com/users/DrMartinus/ - many interesting links http://members.xoom.com/DrMartinus/ - German - Das Kirchenjahr http://www.drmartinus.net/ - my home... :-) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 19:36:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA01208 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 19:36:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02285; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 19:34:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 19:34:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02195; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 19:34:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02183; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 19:34:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA13746 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 16:33:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 16:33:13 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: ThinkPad Subject: Transferring Data Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hello everyone, Right now I have a 385ED and I'm planning to get a more powerful ThinkPad with a Pentium II processor... Is there a easy way to transfer all the data from my current machine to the new ThinkPad easily? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 21:34:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA02314 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:34:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05784; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:26:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:25:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05689; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:25:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (mail.islandnet.com [199.175.106.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05670; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:25:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from 139-142-112-170.islandnet.com [139.142.112.170] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m0zwzgv-000KtxC for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:24:25 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) Newsgroups: list.thinkpad To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [AnyLaptop] What's needed to use US laptop in Europe? Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 11:40:58 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <199901031452.JAA19312@water.vramp.net> Lines: 41 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: In article <199901031452.JAA19312@water.vramp.net>, "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: :On 3 Jan 99, at 4:38, Ken wrote: : :> What will I need to get for my US laptop so I can use it in England? What :> power and phone adapters are needed? Are proprietary adapters needed, or :> is this stuff really generic? For electrical power ... :All you'll need is a UK to US plug converter. The "powerbrick" transformer will :run just as happily on 220V 50Hz as it does on 110V 60Hz. another one of :the things that IBM got absolutely right. : In other words, you don't need a transformer, you just need a plug converter, for the 701 at least. I believe that applies to a lot of other Thinkpads, but not necessarily to other computers (though it was true, for example, of a 1988-era Datavue Spark portable, too). As far as phones / modems go, things may not be so simple. At least a couple of years ago, it was *illegal* to use a non-approved device in the UK. However, in practice, the devices I used worked. However, the plug-in at the other end is different from in North America. You might be able to pick up the correct cord at an electronics shop (which is where I picked up the plug converter, though you can also get them at airports, ... in Canada even London Drugs stocks plug converter kits) in Tottenham Court Road in London, and some British telephones have the correct cord which could be removed. The cord might go from the telephone to the wall, or from the handset to the phone itself. Does somebody from the UK have more up-to-date info? -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 23:30:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA03525 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:30:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09840; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:30:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:28:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09640; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:28:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns1.medctr.ucla.edu (ns1.medctr.ucla.edu [149.142.194.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09625; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:28:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchww01.ww.mednet.ucla.edu (exchww01.mednet.ucla.edu [149.142.194.207]) by ns1.medctr.ucla.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA18387 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 20:26:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from camelot.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk (ppp-227-024.usc.edu [128.125.227.24]) by exchww01.ww.mednet.ucla.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id Z70QDA55; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 20:34:00 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990103193433.00b4e7dc@medmail4.mednet.ucla.edu> X-Sender: pharmacology/aannala@medmail4.mednet.ucla.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 19:34:43 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Thinkpad Dock II 3546-001 Documentation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone have documentation which would define the function of the DIP switches and Jumpers in a Dock II? Actually, I would appreciate a copy of the manual for the Dock II if someone could send me a copy. Thanks, Alexander J. Annala, Ph.D. Pharmacology, CIBI A-236 UCLA School of Medicine 700 Westwood Plaza Los Angeles, CA 90095-1770 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 23:38:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA03650 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:38:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10240; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:38:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:37:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10156; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:37:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10140; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:37:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.27]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA18270; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 20:35:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901040435.UAA18270@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Ed" Date: Sun, 03 Jan 99 20:36:59 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 750cs hdd List-Unsubscribe: >The drive is a Toshiba MK2326FC for which I have obtained the spec and >jumper info. I have no information as to whether the thinkpad uses >Master/Slave or Cable select HDD's - perhaps someone knows? > Surprisingly, it uses jumpers. On the 750, it appears to use cable select, but this is not the case (because using a newer hard drive connected the same was as an older one doesn't let it work). On a newer HD, you might need to trim off the pins on the far end (a block of four), if it requires that you have it open for master (the older drives used closed for master). >The main problem is that at startup when the machine checks for installed >devices it doesn't see the HDD. I am relatively convinced that it is a >Master/Slave or Cable select problem - but it could be the thinkpad itself - >I don't know. > More than likely a cable or HD problem. Does the HD spin up when it doesn't detect? Does the HD light stay on? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 23:45:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA03739 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:45:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10680; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:44:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10594; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:44:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10582; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:44:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.27]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA18685; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 20:41:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901040441.UAA18685@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Richard E. Robbins" , "ThinkPad List" Date: Sun, 03 Jan 99 20:43:10 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TP701C] NT4 and Linux Combination List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 02 Jan 1999 00:35:07 -0600, Richard E. Robbins wrote: >I have configured a Thinkpad 701C with Windows NT Workstation 4.0 (service >pack 3) as well as RedHat Linux 5.2. > >The machine has a 4 gig disk partitioned to include four partitions. The >first partition is a smallish Linux partition and includes /boot. The >second partition is an NTFS partition with a bit less than 2 Gig that >contains NT. The third partition is a similarly sized Linux partition that >contains the balance of the Linux file system. The fourth partition is a >Linux swap partition. > >The partitions were created with the current version of Partition Magic. >The NTFS seems OK to NT's Disk Administrator tool. The Linux partitions >don't seem to be problematic either. > >I use the NT loader with an entry for Linux. LILO is installed on the >partition containing /boot. > >On several occasions I have gotten an error about corrupt or missing files >(NTOSLDR perhaps?) when booting the system. The NT Emergency Repair Disk >cures the problem. I can't replicate the error. The system has been shut >down normally, either from Linux or NT, in each instance. NT OS loader is kinda strange, although I haven't seen problems like that before. If you had the time, you might want to start over, and have a Boot Manager partition (actually, since you have Partition Magic, keep the NT partition), make a big Linux partition, and have an extended/logical partition for swap. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 3 23:50:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA03771 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:50:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10985; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:49:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:49:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10903; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (mail.islandnet.com [199.175.106.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10889; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:48:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from 139-142-112-170.islandnet.com [139.142.112.170] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m0zx1wZ-000KuvC for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 20:48:43 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) Newsgroups: list.thinkpad To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [AnyLaptop] What's needed to use US laptop in Europe? Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 11:40:58 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <199901031452.JAA19312@water.vramp.net> Lines: 41 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: In article <199901031452.JAA19312@water.vramp.net>, "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: :On 3 Jan 99, at 4:38, Ken wrote: : :> What will I need to get for my US laptop so I can use it in England? What :> power and phone adapters are needed? Are proprietary adapters needed, or :> is this stuff really generic? For electrical power ... :All you'll need is a UK to US plug converter. The "powerbrick" transformer will :run just as happily on 220V 50Hz as it does on 110V 60Hz. another one of :the things that IBM got absolutely right. : In other words, you don't need a transformer, you just need a plug converter, for the 701 at least. I believe that applies to a lot of other Thinkpads, but not necessarily to other computers (though it was true, for example, of a 1988-era Datavue Spark portable, too). As far as phones / modems go, things may not be so simple. At least a couple of years ago, it was *illegal* to use a non-approved device in the UK. However, in practice, the devices I used worked. However, the plug-in at the other end is different from in North America. You might be able to pick up the correct cord at an electronics shop (which is where I picked up the plug converter, though you can also get them at airports, ... in Canada even London Drugs stocks plug converter kits) in Tottenham Court Road in London, and some British telephones have the correct cord which could be removed. The cord might go from the telephone to the wall, or from the handset to the phone itself. Does somebody from the UK have more up-to-date info? -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 00:05:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA03964 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 00:05:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11996; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 00:04:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 00:04:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11889; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 00:04:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from BEETHOVEN (beethoven.singa.pore.net [202.169.225.68]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11877; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 00:04:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from seattle - 202.169.227.58 by singa.pore.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:58:04 +0800 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990104130250.007fe580@mail.aloha.net> X-Sender: whg@mail.aloha.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:02:50 +0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Martin Lyngvig Subject: Re: [AnyLaptop] What's needed to use US laptop in Europe? Cc: Ken In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At about Sun, 03 Jan 1999 04:38:06 -0500, Ken scribbled: >Sorry, not Thinkpad specific: > >What will I need to get for my US laptop so I can use it in England? What >power and phone adapters are needed? Are proprietary adapters needed, or >is this stuff really generic? > >Thanks! > >Ken >kenzo@free-music.com Power: UK is using 240V, so check if your power pack supports this (the power pack should be labelleded something like 110V-240V to support this). If your power pack is 110V only then you need to get (1) another power pack that supports 240V (either a 240V only, or a 'world-wide' that covers the whole spectrum), or (2) a power converter that plugs into the UK wall socket and give you a US 110V output (this is available at several stores on Tottenham Court Road in London). The come in different wattage, so select one that can support the maximum power you need at any given time. The advantage of the latter is that you can use it for other 110V equipment also, but it can be quite expensive. UK is using a large 3 pronged wall socket, so you need a plug converter that will allow you to plug into the wall. This is available in many stores that sells travel equipment, particularly in airports. Of course, you do not need this if you get the 240V-to-110V power converter that already give you a US plug out. Phone adapters: UK use an odd-looking flat phone plug and the wiring in their RJ-11 is somewhat different than the 'norm'. The easiest thing is to buy a US-to-UK plug, which is a connector that has a female end takes the RJ-11 in, and a male end that plugs into the wall socket. This one can be found in electronics stores. If you buy an external modem in UK, they normally(?) come with the UK wiring and you cannot just use in other countries unless you use their 'proprietary' cable with them (which basically just is a different wiring of the extension cable). Hope this helps. -Martin ------------------------------------------------------------ Martin Lyngvig Singapore martini@acm.org ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 00:14:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA04039 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 00:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12829; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 00:13:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 00:13:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12728; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 00:13:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from jack.direct.ca (jack.direct.ca [199.60.229.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12716; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 00:13:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from newt-53-0171.direct.ca ([216.66.138.71] helo=direct.ca) by jack.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #18) id 0zx2K2-0000PL-00; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:13:00 -0800 Message-ID: <36904E8B.EA573927@direct.ca> Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 21:15:55 -0800 From: Hale X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Subject: unsubscribe References: <000c01be375e$62a92ba0$1ea52581@sdwntsrv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 02:43:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA05252 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA16887; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:42:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:41:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA16752; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA16740; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:41:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p03.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.18]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA01440; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:38:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901040738.XAA01440@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Ed" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 03 Jan 99 23:40:56 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 750cs hdd additional List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:50:14 -0000, Ed wrote: >Additional information re: Paul Khoury's email. > >I have upgraded the BIOS to the latest revision on the IBM website. >Yes, the drive will boot quite happily, but only very occasionaly. > > Hmmm... And are any pins jumpered? What does Toshiba say about the last 4 pins (they're isolated >from the rest of the pins)? Does it need the farthest to the end open or closed for master? Or maybe the cable isn't fitting on right. Like I said, when I took out my IBM 170MB and put in my IBM 2.1GB (originally from a 380/385), it didn't have the same fit, so I had to do some cable surgery... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 02:57:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA05344 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:57:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17414; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:57:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:56:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17331; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:56:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17319; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:56:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp300 (dgoldman.vip.best.com [204.156.137.147]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.1/8.9.0/best.out) with SMTP id XAA15649; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:55:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990103235038.00b48a30@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 23:55:15 -0800 To: jberry@islandnet.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Re: [AnyLaptop] What's needed to use US laptop in Europe? In-Reply-To: References: <199901031452.JAA19312@water.vramp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:40 AM 1/3/99 -0800, you wrote: >As far as phones / modems go, things may not be so simple. At >least a couple of years ago, it was *illegal* to use a >non-approved device in the UK. However, in practice, the >devices I used worked. However, the plug-in at the other end >is different from in North America. You might be able to pick >up the correct cord at an electronics shop (which is where I >picked up the plug converter, though you can also get them at >airports, ... in Canada even London Drugs stocks plug converter >kits) in Tottenham Court Road in London, and some British >telephones have the correct cord which could be removed. The >cord might go from the telephone to the wall, or from the >handset to the phone itself. At least here in the US, there is 0.00% chance that a modem can be successfully plugged into the HANDSET cord and even begin to work. This is a VERY BAD idea. I doubt that it would work any better in the UK. I'd be very careful of trying it. On the other hand, when I was in the UK in 97, I successfully used my US laptop (a Zenith at the time) with my US modem (Megahertz PCMCIA X-Jack type) and the UK phone jack by just using a simple converter. I'd expect that the converter could be purchased from a Radio Shack or any store that sells accessories for international travellers. -- David Goldman From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 03:14:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA05425 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 03:14:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18706; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 03:14:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 03:13:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18579; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 03:13:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (mail.islandnet.com [199.175.106.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18562; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 03:13:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from 139-142-112-167.islandnet.com [139.142.112.167] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m0zx58S-000KtoC for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 00:13:12 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) Newsgroups: list.thinkpad To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [AnyLaptop] What's needed to use US laptop in Europe? Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 11:40:58 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <199901031452.JAA19312@water.vramp.net> Lines: 41 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: In article <199901031452.JAA19312@water.vramp.net>, "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: :On 3 Jan 99, at 4:38, Ken wrote: : :> What will I need to get for my US laptop so I can use it in England? What :> power and phone adapters are needed? Are proprietary adapters needed, or :> is this stuff really generic? For electrical power ... :All you'll need is a UK to US plug converter. The "powerbrick" transformer will :run just as happily on 220V 50Hz as it does on 110V 60Hz. another one of :the things that IBM got absolutely right. : In other words, you don't need a transformer, you just need a plug converter, for the 701 at least. I believe that applies to a lot of other Thinkpads, but not necessarily to other computers (though it was true, for example, of a 1988-era Datavue Spark portable, too). As far as phones / modems go, things may not be so simple. At least a couple of years ago, it was *illegal* to use a non-approved device in the UK. However, in practice, the devices I used worked. However, the plug-in at the other end is different from in North America. You might be able to pick up the correct cord at an electronics shop (which is where I picked up the plug converter, though you can also get them at airports, ... in Canada even London Drugs stocks plug converter kits) in Tottenham Court Road in London, and some British telephones have the correct cord which could be removed. The cord might go from the telephone to the wall, or from the handset to the phone itself. Does somebody from the UK have more up-to-date info? -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 03:35:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA05618 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 03:35:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19952; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 03:34:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 03:34:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19862; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 03:34:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (mail.islandnet.com [199.175.106.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19848; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 03:34:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from 139-142-112-204.islandnet.com [139.142.112.204] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m0zx5Sd-000KtzC for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 00:34:03 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) Newsgroups: list.thinkpad To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [AnyLaptop] What's needed to use US laptop in Europe? Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 11:40:58 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <199901031452.JAA19312@water.vramp.net> Lines: 41 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: In article <199901031452.JAA19312@water.vramp.net>, "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: :On 3 Jan 99, at 4:38, Ken wrote: : :> What will I need to get for my US laptop so I can use it in England? What :> power and phone adapters are needed? Are proprietary adapters needed, or :> is this stuff really generic? For electrical power ... :All you'll need is a UK to US plug converter. The "powerbrick" transformer will :run just as happily on 220V 50Hz as it does on 110V 60Hz. another one of :the things that IBM got absolutely right. : In other words, you don't need a transformer, you just need a plug converter, for the 701 at least. I believe that applies to a lot of other Thinkpads, but not necessarily to other computers (though it was true, for example, of a 1988-era Datavue Spark portable, too). As far as phones / modems go, things may not be so simple. At least a couple of years ago, it was *illegal* to use a non-approved device in the UK. However, in practice, the devices I used worked. However, the plug-in at the other end is different from in North America. You might be able to pick up the correct cord at an electronics shop (which is where I picked up the plug converter, though you can also get them at airports, ... in Canada even London Drugs stocks plug converter kits) in Tottenham Court Road in London, and some British telephones have the correct cord which could be removed. The cord might go from the telephone to the wall, or from the handset to the phone itself. Does somebody from the UK have more up-to-date info? -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 07:04:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA06622 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:04:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00247; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:03:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:02:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29997; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:02:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29985; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:01:53 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from DietrichWT@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id TEDa005506 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:00:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:00:46 EST To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: unsubscribe Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.i for Windows 95 sub 67 List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 07:50:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA06821 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:50:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01753; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:48:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:47:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01612; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:47:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01586; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:47:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from [194.222.39.203] (helo=ddwyer.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 0zx9PT-0006UZ-00 for THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:47:05 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:08:55 +0000 To: From: FP Subject: 750cs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a List-Unsubscribe: Just bought this crashed laptop, Sucesfully installed '95 but does not go into standby no battery shown on setup, Battery pack charges externally but does not take current from Laptop to charge, software prob or blown fuse?. Any special files needed? also simple dia to show the function of the lights etc would be helpful. Thanks Doug Dwyer From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 11:13:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA08664 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:13:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03043; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:12:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:11:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02861; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:11:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from bessie.eunet.fi (bessie.eunet.fi [192.26.119.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02834; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:11:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from kettu (joakim.pp.fi [193.66.77.210]) by bessie.eunet.fi (8.8.7/8.8.3) with SMTP id SAA11822 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 18:11:10 +0200 (EET) From: "Jukka Ketelaars" To: Subject: RE: [AnyLaptop] What's needed to use US laptop in Europe? Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 18:14:00 +0200 Message-ID: <000401be37fd$3d622b90$d24d42c1@kettu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990103235038.00b48a30@shell9.ba.best.com> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: > -----Original Message----- > From: David Goldman [mailto:David@dgoldman.com] > Sent: 4. tammikuuta 1999 9:55 > To: jberry@islandnet.com; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: [AnyLaptop] What's needed to use US laptop in Europe? > > At least here in the US, there is 0.00% chance that a modem can > be successfully plugged into the HANDSET cord and even begin > to work. This is a VERY BAD idea. I doubt that it would work any > better in the UK. I'd be very careful of trying it. I've done this without problems in Holland, Finland and Sweden. The thing is, it's only save on a direct connection to the telephone network. If you suspect that the place where you're calling from has a digital switchboard, you'd better not try this (they use different voltages, which may damage the modem). From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 11:50:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA09023 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:50:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05823; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:47:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:47:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05708; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:47:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05690; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:46:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from 202.new-york-11-12rs.ny.dial-access.att.net ([12.78.196.202]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990104164622.FVPI23444@202.new-york-11-12rs.ny.dial-access.att.net> for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:46:22 +0000 From: r.lawrence@worldnet.att.net (Robert Lawrence) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: [770ED] Questions re Selectabase; file transfer between 770ED and desktop Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 16:46:55 GMT Message-ID: <3692ee2f.8592673@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: I'm thinking of getting the Selectabase 770 for my 770ED, mainly so that I don't have to constantly plug in and unplug external devices. Does the Selectabase add height to the keyboard level? IBM lists the height of the Selectabase 770 as two inches. Does that mean that the 770ED somehow sits on top of the Selectabase, thus raising the keyboard up two inches? I'm concerned about the effect this might have on typing comfort. Or do most people use a separate keyboard when the 770ED is connected to the Selectabase? And regarding the use of a separate keyboard, am I correct that, with the 770ED connected to the Selectabase, both a separate keyboard and a mouse can be simultaneously connected to the Selectabase without using the Y-cable (keyboard-mouse connector cable) that would be required if both a keyboard and a mouse were connected directly to the 770ED? I would also like to synchronize files, by cable, between my 770ED and a desktop computer that will be located on the same desk as the 770ED. Concerning the software that I would use for this purpose, are there significant advantages (in terms of ease of setup, ease of use, and general capabilities) in using Laplink for this purpose, or could I save money and achieve largely the same functionality by using Direct Cable Connection? Bob Lawrence From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 12:32:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA09770 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:32:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08714; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:28:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:26:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08461; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:26:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (IDENT:unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08448; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:26:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.2-29 #9830) id <01J64YVF2HVKA9SVDO@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:26:28 MST Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 10:13:38 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: RE: [AnyLaptop] What's needed to use US laptop in Europe? In-reply-to: "A message dated Mon, 04 Jan 1999 18:14:00 +0200" <000401be37fd$3d622b90$d24d42c1@kettu> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <01J6519QRKFGA9SVDO@Opus1.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 References: <4.1.19990103235038.00b48a30@shell9.ba.best.com> List-Unsubscribe: Jukka Ketelaars > > At least here in the US, there is 0.00% chance that a modem can > > be successfully plugged into the HANDSET cord and even begin > > to work. This is a VERY BAD idea. I doubt that it would work any > > better in the UK. I'd be very careful of trying it. > I've done this without problems in Holland, Finland and Sweden. The thing > is, it's only save on a direct connection to the telephone network. If you > suspect that the place where you're calling from has a digital switchboard, > you'd better not try this IBM at least used to sell a line testing device they call the "Modem Saver" - very handy and about US$30. The best device I've found for digital lines is called the "Modem Doubler" (http://warrior.com) - it's inserted in the handset cord and is an active device using two 9v batteries (amplified) with a 4 position switch to compensate for varying line quality. The only problem with it is dialing on digital (as in Meridan) phones doesn't work, you have to do that by hand, then tell the modem ATD or let a script do just that, no number, just go off the hook, to initiate a call. 28k8 (V.34) works sometimes, 14k4 (V.32bis) works great all the time. Battery life is a few days using it about 8 hours a day or it can be powered by an AC mains supply such as can be bought at most electronics parts shops for a few dollars. Billy Y.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 12:43:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA09945 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:43:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10196; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:40:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:38:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09703; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09674; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:38:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901041738.MAA09674@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Tue, 3 Jan 1989 10:35:30 -0800 (PST) From: "Victor Kress" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Thom Parkhill" Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 09:38:53 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [tp380d] keyboard lockup List-Unsubscribe: I had a similar problem when I first installed OS/2 with fixpack 6 on my 600. For other reasons Iinstalled FP8 and this seems to have cured it. On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 09:36:59 +0200 (EET), Thom Parkhill wrote: >I'm experiencing frequent lockups of my keyboard. It's clearly my big clumsy fingers >which get bigger and clumsier as I try to type faster, still, I'm wondering if there is a >solution. Here's what happens, > >I'm typing along (using Warp 4, fixpack 7 in a pm or vio os/2 program, or in a dos box) >and hit the trackpoint stick (aka eraser head) and a key or two at the same time, and I'm >locked up with beeping keys, in all programs, and on the desktop. The pointer still >works so I can close everything down, but even a CAD won't work because all the keys >will do is beep. So I have to physically turn the computer off to clear the problem. > >I can replicate the problem by typing fast and bumping the trackpoint stick. > >Any ideas about what to do about this, besides slowing down or getting new fingers? > >Thanks, > >Thom. > > > Thom Parkhill > Department of > Religious Studies > St. Thomas Unversity > Fredericton, N.B. Canada > > until July, 1999: parkhill@cypronet.net > after July, 1999: parkhill@stthomasu.ca > ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 12:50:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA10047 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:50:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08967; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:19:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:16:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08518; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:16:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08457; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:16:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial19.vramp.net (dial19.vramp.net [209.107.20.34]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA20775; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:16:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901041516.KAA20775@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: Vincent Poy , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:09:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Transferring Data Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 3 Jan 99, at 16:33, Vincent Poy wrote: > Right now I have a 385ED and I'm planning to get a more powerful > ThinkPad with a Pentium II processor... Is there a easy way to transfer > all the data from my current machine to the new ThinkPad easily? Laplink 95 is the easiest way that I've found if you're running Win 95/98, NT4, etc. Connect the two laptops with the supplied cable and transferring files is quick and painless. Don't know what's the best to use with other OS's though. Regards, James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. CaptJHEM@waterw.com Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 12:51:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA10064 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:51:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08972; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:19:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:17:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08572; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:17:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08490; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:16:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial19.vramp.net (dial19.vramp.net [209.107.20.34]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA20789; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:16:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901041516.KAA20789@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: "Alexander J. Annala" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:09:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Thinkpad Dock II 3546-001 Documentation Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3.0.32.19990103193433.00b4e7dc@medmail4.mednet.ucla.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 3 Jan 99, at 19:34, Alexander J. Annala wrote: > Does anyone have documentation which would define the > function of the DIP switches and Jumpers in a Dock II? This will answer many of your configuration questions: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/BJON-3HSBKR.html and the specifics for the switch settings is at: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/RMIE-3BFJDB.html > Actually, I would appreciate a copy of the manual for > the Dock II if someone could send me a copy. That's available in Acrobat format at: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/PSGF-424RV3.html Regards, James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. CaptJHEM@waterw.com Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 12:53:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA10103 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:53:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08963; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:19:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:17:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08570; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:17:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08491; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:16:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial19.vramp.net (dial19.vramp.net [209.107.20.34]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA20785; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:16:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901041516.KAA20785@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: Donnie Hagan , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:09:37 -0500 Subject: Re: 755 hdd Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3.0.1.32.19990103161830.006b5ab8@mail.lig.bellsouth.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 3 Jan 99, at 16:18, Donnie Hagan wrote: > I am upgrading from a 500 meg hdd to 1.08 gig, I need to make a bootable > copy from my old hdd. Will drive copy work? Drive copy will only work on computers that allow you to access (install) both the new and old hard drives at the same time (e.g. C: and D:). You might want to consider the use of an outboard drive holder, either PCMCIA or parallel port, that would allow you to install and access the new drive. You could then use the outboard unit to hold your old drive, after you've transferred everything, and use it as a backup device. > It is a 755ce, my win 95 disc is cd, and I only have an externel cd. If i > start from the beginning, how can i install the drivers for the pcmcia card > on a floppy, to make the computer boot and recognize my cd drive so I can > install min 95? You literally would have to start at the very beginning by loading DOS, your Socketsoft drivers and then do a reload of Win95. Regards, James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. CaptJHEM@waterw.com Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 12:53:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA10109 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11801; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:45:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:44:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11665; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (cave@cavecreations.com [192.41.27.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11629; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:44:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id KAA25606; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:44:08 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:44:08 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199901041744.KAA25606@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: DVDExpress and NT??? List-Unsubscribe: Ok... I know that you're not supposed to be able to watch DVD movies under NT. But, unwilling to accept that, I poke around every few days to see if someone has a solution. Then I see this page: http://www.mediamatics.com/dvd_express_qa.htm If you scroll down a little, you'll read the following: "DVDExpress works with Windows NT under DirectShow 2.0 today." Works with NT??? (as I smile and frown) So does this mean that my Thinkpad 600E with NT4, sp3 can view DVD movies after all? I think DVDExpress is bundled on one of the shipped CDs. Of course, my DVD drive is at home... and I don't own a single DVD movie, so I have no way to test it right now. Chances are, I'll have to try this one when I get home, but I have a sinking feeling that there's some weird reason why this won't work... Any input? -Al (with a 600E with an unused DVD drive until now...?) -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 13:13:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA10366 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:13:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13325; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:07:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:05:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13137; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:05:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13125; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:05:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 (user-38ld1hi.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.134.50]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA09311 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:05:34 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad list" Subject: RE: [770ED] Questions re Selectabase; file transfer between 770ED and desktop Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:05:01 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2212 (4.71.2419.0) In-reply-to: <3692ee2f.8592673@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 List-Unsubscribe: Selectabase 770 is maybe 2 inches at the back, but it angles down at the front to bring the underside front of the 770 right to the desk surface. The overall angle is probably comparable to the angle achieved using the two feet at the back of the 770. Selectabase 770 has separate ports for both a mouse and a keyboard. William Armstrong WILLIAM ARMSTRONG LIGHTING DESIGN warmstrong@waldinc.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert Lawrence [mailto:r.lawrence@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Monday, January 04, 1999 11:47 AM To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: [770ED] Questions re Selectabase; file transfer between 770ED and desktop I'm thinking of getting the Selectabase 770 for my 770ED, mainly so that I don't have to constantly plug in and unplug external devices. Does the Selectabase add height to the keyboard level? IBM lists the height of the Selectabase 770 as two inches. Does that mean that the 770ED somehow sits on top of the Selectabase, thus raising the keyboard up two inches? I'm concerned about the effect this might have on typing comfort. Or do most people use a separate keyboard when the 770ED is connected to the Selectabase? And regarding the use of a separate keyboard, am I correct that, with the 770ED connected to the Selectabase, both a separate keyboard and a mouse can be simultaneously connected to the Selectabase without using the Y-cable (keyboard-mouse connector cable) that would be required if both a keyboard and a mouse were connected directly to the 770ED? I would also like to synchronize files, by cable, between my 770ED and a desktop computer that will be located on the same desk as the 770ED. Concerning the software that I would use for this purpose, are there significant advantages (in terms of ease of setup, ease of use, and general capabilities) in using Laplink for this purpose, or could I save money and achieve largely the same functionality by using Direct Cable Connection? Bob Lawrence From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 13:43:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA10736 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15351; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:40:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:40:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15239; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:40:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from haifa.royl.com (haifa.royl.com [208.240.192.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15216; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:40:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hebron.royl.com ( [208.240.192.5] ) by haifa.royl.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:41:20 -0800 Message-Id: <199901041041.2033522.6@haifa.royl.com> From: "Stephen Hosmer" To: "Thinkpad List" Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 10:43:18 -0800 Reply-To: "Stephen Hosmer" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (4.0.1381;3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 770ED - Both Serial & IR Ports? List-Unsubscribe: I have a 770 running Win NT. Does anyone know how to make both IR and Serial work on NT? On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 01:52:24 PST, Benjamin Koh wrote: > I have a 560X, but the same should apply to your 770ED. If you're >using Win95 like me, go to device manager (and the TP config program), >disable IR, enable the serial port and reboot. Use device manager again >to change the IRQ for the serial port - you can use any of the alternate >settings. Reboot to enable the changes. Enable the IR port. The thinkpad >configuration program should no longer complain of conflicts. Reboot yet >again to activate the settings. You should then have both IR and serial >port active. I had this same problem a week ago; I have a scanner on the >serial port and sync to my PDA on IR; both are active simultaneously. > >Good luck. >Benjamin > >> >>I have disabled the Mwave DSP modem on my 770ED and replaced it with a >>Megahertz combo Ethernet / Modem card. This has freed an IRQ on my >system (3). >>I have the RS-232 port on the back of the system configured at the >moment. The >>only way I could figure out how to do so was to disable the IR port. >Now, I'd >>like to re-enable the IR port, but it appears the only way to do that >is to >>disable the RS-232! >> >>Is there any way to have it all??? I'd like to be able to have my >RS-232 port >>connected to another computer AND use the IR port for things like >printing or >>PDA sync, without having to switch them both around and have a re-boot >or two >>each time I need to go from one to the other. >> >>Any help would be appreciated, even if it is an RTFM into the manuals >I've >>just received and haven't had a chance to read, yet. (BTW, the controls >on the >>755CE let me set IRQs, etc. for the various devices.) >> >>Thanks! >> >>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 >>Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers >> >>iQA/AwUBNnjJuWasl5Jijs7SEQLhWACfS9ihcDzO8ky9mw/CMWLAQEYJVBgAnjsg >>fBT9o5sEe+ccVLcmbhQ0tjF+ >>=PaZC >>-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >>-- >>Ron. >> > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ________________________________ Royale Energy Inc. (NASDAQ:ROYL) Stephen Hosmer (hosmer@royl.com) CFO To request a Public key send a message with "send Public key" as subject. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 14:41:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA11474 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:41:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18272; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:37:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18058; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:37:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18023; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:37:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA18457; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:36:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:36:11 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: "James H. E. Maugham" cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Transferring Data In-Reply-To: <199901041516.KAA20775@water.vramp.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, James H. E. Maugham wrote: > On 3 Jan 99, at 16:33, Vincent Poy wrote: > > > Right now I have a 385ED and I'm planning to get a more powerful > > ThinkPad with a Pentium II processor... Is there a easy way to transfer > > all the data from my current machine to the new ThinkPad easily? > > Laplink 95 is the easiest way that I've found if you're running Win 95/98, NT4, > etc. Connect the two laptops with the supplied cable and transferring files is > quick and painless. > > Don't know what's the best to use with other OS's though. Other OSes are a lot easier. What I meant was that for directories of data files, those are easy to transfer but how do I get my Win95/98 on the new machine to have the exact same config as the old one? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 14:45:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA11522 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:45:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18698; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:43:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:42:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18544; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:42:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18532; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:41:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p13.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.28]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA10539 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:39:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901041939.LAA10539@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sun, 03 Jan 99 23:37:01 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Unsubscribing for those who don't know how List-Unsubscribe: Okay, I'm sure others can understand how frustrated I am at getting constant unsubscribe messages. Just so everyone who wants out will know, send email to thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu, NOT NOT NOT thinkpad@cs.utk.edu also, don't just put subscribe, unsubscribe, or misspell like subsribe or unscribe. You type either subscribe email@provider.com OR unsubscribe email@provider.com I think this should be easy for most people to understand. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Mac OS 7.5.3, Sun Solaris 2.3, Linux 2.0.29, Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 14:55:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA11657 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19452; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:52:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19358; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:52:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19288; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:51:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-144.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.144]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA27813; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:52:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990104145458.00995c90@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 14:54:58 -0500 To: r.lawrence@worldnet.att.net (Robert Lawrence), THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: [770ED] Questions re Selectabase; file transfer between 770ED and desktop In-Reply-To: <3692ee2f.8592673@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 04:46 PM 1/4/99 GMT, Robert Lawrence wrote: >I'm thinking of getting the Selectabase 770 for my 770ED, mainly so >that I don't have to constantly plug in and unplug external devices. > This is the very reason I purchased a few SB770's. They are great for quickly docking. The only thing lacking (which is added if you purchase anyone of the numerous docks/options), are PCMCIA slots. You also need an extra AC Adapter to power it. It is the standard 56w unit that comes with your 770 series notebook. >Does the Selectabase add height to the keyboard level? IBM lists the >height of the Selectabase 770 as two inches. Does that mean that the >770ED somehow sits on top of the Selectabase, thus raising the >keyboard up two inches? I'm concerned about the effect this might >have on typing comfort. Or do most people use a separate keyboard >when the 770ED is connected to the Selectabase? I use a seperate keyboard, but I have typed on the unit on the dock numerous times. Because of the embedded palm rest in the 770 series, it is easily tolerable, and the level is ~.75 from the ground. This is where the unit slides into the doc. The back part is 2.0" inches in height. >And regarding the use of a separate keyboard, am I correct that, with >the 770ED connected to the Selectabase, both a separate keyboard and a >mouse can be simultaneously connected to the Selectabase without using >the Y-cable (keyboard-mouse connector cable) that would be required if >both a keyboard and a mouse were connected directly to the 770ED? Yep. Unit has independent PS/2 mouse and keyboard connectors. >I would also like to synchronize files, by cable, between my 770ED and >a desktop computer that will be located on the same desk as the 770ED. >Concerning the software that I would use for this purpose, are there >significant advantages (in terms of ease of setup, ease of use, and >general capabilities) in using Laplink for this purpose, or could I >save money and achieve largely the same functionality by using Direct >Cable Connection? I am a big fan of LapLink95, but my co consultants use DCC with no problems when needed. Of course we're all networked, so our 100mbps connects far surpass the 115kpbs (sans compression) of our comports. :) ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 15:13:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA11855 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:13:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20571; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:10:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:09:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20466; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from falk.c2i.net (mail.c2i.net [193.216.69.98]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20453; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:09:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mp-217-242-217.daxnet.no (mp-217-242-217.daxnet.no [193.217.242.217]) by falk.c2i.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA06001 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:04:40 +0100 (MET) From: eyvind.spangen@c2i.net (Eyvind Spangen) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP755CD - backlight doesn't work Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 20:10:08 GMT Message-ID: <3695ff62.10989472@mail.c2i.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: My TP755CD has got a "annoying" error.. The flourescent tube that is supposed to light up the LCD from the back, doesn't work. The previous owner tried changing the tube, but that didn't fix it. What is the problem, what can be done, and how expensive? The LCD itself is ok, if I point my desk light very close to it, I see the picture. But as it is now, I have to use an external display.=20 The model is 9545-CDX with 10.4" TFT screen. ES From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 15:45:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA12418 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:45:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22680; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:45:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:44:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22553; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:44:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22531; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:44:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p13.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.28]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA16373; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:41:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901042041.MAA16373@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Eyvind Spangen" Date: Mon, 04 Jan 99 12:43:23 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP755CD - backlight doesn't work List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 04 Jan 1999 20:10:08 GMT, Eyvind Spangen wrote: >My TP755CD has got a "annoying" error.. >The flourescent tube that is supposed to light up the LCD from the >back, doesn't work. The previous owner tried changing the tube, but >that didn't fix it. What is the problem, what can be done, and how >expensive? The LCD itself is ok, if I point my desk light very close >to it, I see the picture. But as it is now, I have to use an external >display. > >The model is 9545-CDX with 10.4" TFT screen. If it isn't the tube, it could be the inverter board, which converts the power from 12VDC to the a thousand or so volts that the tube needs. That's what I would replace next. I actually have one from a 355C, but don't know if it would be the same (though the 355/360/750/755 series are VERY similiar). I have a similiar problem on another non-IBM notebook, but I think it's the bulb. Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3/2.4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 15:53:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA12518 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:53:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23293; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:53:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:53:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23203; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from fatalbert.ucc.uconn.edu (fatalbert.ucc.uconn.edu [137.99.221.194]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23175; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:53:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by fatalbert.ucc.uconn.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:50:50 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Girasoli, Tony" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: [701C] WTB: Port Replicator, Floppy Drive, Battery Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:50:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I am looking for some prives on a used port replicator and a floppy drive (w/ cable) for the 701. Does anyone have any for sale? I'm not looking to spend much $$. Also, does anyone know of where I can get a decent price on a replacement battery? Am I going to have to end up buying a new one from IBM? My current battery is shot. Thanks for your help, Tony Girasoli girasoli@datacomm.uconn.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 15:59:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA12610 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:59:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23831; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:59:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:58:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23722; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:58:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23710; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:58:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-031.usc.edu [128.125.223.31]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id HAA06509 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 07:56:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990102075052.00af78a0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 07:56:26 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: FS: 64 MB RAM Module Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Almost new (though I don't have the original packaging). I bought it only a couple of weeks before my TP 560 took a dive onto the kitchen floor. I've since replaced that machine with a 600 which uses a different memory technology for its faster bus. I *think* it was made by Simple Technology, which is TP-approved, and works in 560's as well as some of the 760's and 360's. Make an offer in private mail to rwhittle@usa.net. ------ Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net - Smile :-) Its a curve that can set a LOT of things straight. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 16:02:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12650 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:02:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24358; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:01:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:59:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23863; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:59:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23847; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:59:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-137.usc.edu [128.125.224.137]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id SAA03036; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:07:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990103180110.00afd960@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 18:03:20 -0800 To: "Thom Parkhill" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Famed OS/2 Stability (Was: keyboard lockup) In-Reply-To: <199901030804.KAA23630@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:36 AM 1/3/99 +0200, you wrote: >I'm experiencing frequent lockups of my keyboard. >I'm typing along (using Warp 4, fixpack 7 in a pm or vio os/2 program, or in >a dos box) >and hit the trackpoint stick (aka eraser head) and a key or two at the same >time, and I'm >locked up with beeping keys, in all programs, and on the desktop. The >pointer still >works so I can close everything down, but even a CAD won't work because all >the keys >will do is beep. So I have to physically turn the computer off to clear the >problem. > >I can replicate the problem by typing fast and bumping the trackpoint stick. > >Any ideas about what to do about this, besides slowing down or getting new >fingers? Pardon my gloating, but this is the famed, ultra-stable, OS/2 Operating System that can't handle a simple keyboard trap? - Randy From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 16:03:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12659 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:03:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24743; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:03:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:00:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24108; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:00:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24047; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:00:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-086.usc.edu [128.125.223.86]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id WAA07506 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:03:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990102154845.00afbdf0@rcf.usc.edu> Message-Id: <4.1.19990102154845.00afbdf0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 15:50:36 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: TP600: Gamepad to serial port? In-Reply-To: <368E5E76.5BA0ADE6@concentric.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:59 AM 1/2/99 -0600, you wrote: > Also (of course) >Gravis tech support is closed on weekends and during the week when I >have free time to deal with this. I'm amazed that you have time to play games that require a joystick at all. :-) I know I sure don't! I don't even know what 3D graphics are good for, since I don't use any apps (games) that make use of it! ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 16:06:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12702 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:06:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25369; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:05:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:04:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24987; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:04:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24966; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:04:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-086.usc.edu [128.125.223.86]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id WAA07510; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:03:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990102155250.00afd510@rcf.usc.edu> Message-Id: <4.1.19990102155250.00afd510@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 15:57:08 -0800 To: "Albert C. Lee" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Best Place to watch for new ThinkPad's? In-Reply-To: <199901022027.NAA24424@cavecreations.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 01:27 PM 1/2/99 -0700, you wrote: >When the TP600 came out, I almost jumped at it. Then I took a second >look and said... well, there's no AGP, and no DVD/vid out. And at the >time, VST didn't make a TP600 ZIP drive. So I hung tight. When the >600E was announced, it met all my requirements (and VST had the ZIP >drive for the 600), so that was it... $4974 for the computer, the ZIP, >and the 600E Ultraslim bay battery (still backordered). I have been You can put a 2nd battery in the Ultraslim bay? I wasn't aware of that! Is that only with the 600E, or is the "normal" 600 capable of that too? > My parents waited 14 years to buy a VCR. They bought one 3 >years ago for the very first time. My dad just finally said... I >guess they'll come out with something better every time. Of course, >now he's mad he didn't wait for DVD, but he seems happy being able to >go to Blockbuster and see all these movies he never saw before. ...and there's still something you can do with a VCR that you can't with DVD--Record. When DVD comes out with a recordable (preferably one that can re-record on a disc multiple times), I'll get one. Until then, its just not a big deal to me to have one. It gives me nothing more than a VHS tape does except a better picture & marginally better sound (and misc. extra angles & crap on the DVD disc). ------ Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Wise men talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something. - Plato From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 16:07:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12721 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:07:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25627; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:07:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:04:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25059; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:04:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from fatalbert.ucc.uconn.edu (fatalbert.ucc.uconn.edu [137.99.221.194]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25011; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:04:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by fatalbert.ucc.uconn.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:01:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Girasoli, Tony" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: [701C] WTB: 32MB Memory module Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:01:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Almost forgot... I'm looking to buy a cheap 32MB SODIMM for the Thinkpad 701. Thanks for your help. Sincerely, Tony Girasoli girasoli@datacomm.uconn.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 16:10:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12768 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26217; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:10:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:09:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26034; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:09:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26022; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-137.usc.edu [128.125.224.137]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id RAA01814; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:54:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990103174527.00afc270@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 17:53:39 -0800 To: Vincent Poy , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Transferring Data In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 04:33 PM 1/3/99 -0800, you wrote: > Right now I have a 385ED and I'm planning to get a more powerful >ThinkPad with a Pentium II processor... Is there a easy way to transfer >all the data from my current machine to the new ThinkPad easily? I swear by (not *at*) LapLink. I have version 7.5, but I think a recent upgrade came out--but I'm happy with what I've got, so I have no desire to upgrade. My preferred method is by Ethernet (LapLink works over TCP/IP *and* IPX protocols), and I happen to have 2 Ethernet cards to do it with from laptop to laptop, else I could use my desktop machine as intermediary. But if you get the appropriate version of Laplink, you'll get cables with it to go by parallel port (*much* slower). You could probably also do it by USB (I think the newer version supports that), assuming your current/old TP has a USB port. But...problem: It works to transfer all your data & whatnot, but transferring your OS and applications is somewhat more problematic, since registry entries & etc. have to be transferred to. In many cases you can export & import the appropriate registry keys, but since so many applications also install additional files in the Win or System directories, it's usually a lot easier to just stick the install CD into the new machine and do a quick install. With 20X and higher CD drives these days, its very quick to do so anyway--back when 2x and 4x was the norm, I'd have argued that complete re-installs were questionable if you were quick with the other method, but now...just re-install. You'll be happier with the ease *and* the speed. It ain't too bad...I've done it many times. :-) ------ Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Wise men talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something. - Plato From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 16:15:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12844 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:15:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26965; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:15:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:15:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26824; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:15:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.dandy.net (amadei@mail.dandy.net [206.135.129.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26811; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (amadei@localhost) by mail.dandy.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA18151; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:16:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:16:07 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Amadei To: Randal Whittle cc: Thom Parkhill , TP List Subject: Re: Famed OS/2 Stability (Was: keyboard lockup) In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990103180110.00afd960@rcf.usc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Randal Whittle wrote: > At 09:36 AM 1/3/99 +0200, you wrote: > >I'm experiencing frequent lockups of my keyboard. > > >I'm typing along (using Warp 4, fixpack 7 in a pm or vio os/2 program, or in > >a dos box) > >and hit the trackpoint stick (aka eraser head) and a key or two at the same > >time, and I'm > >locked up with beeping keys, in all programs, and on the desktop. The > >pointer still > >works so I can close everything down, but even a CAD won't work because all > >the keys > >will do is beep. So I have to physically turn the computer off to clear the > >problem. > > > >I can replicate the problem by typing fast and bumping the trackpoint stick. > > > >Any ideas about what to do about this, besides slowing down or getting new > >fingers? > > Pardon my gloating, but this is the famed, ultra-stable, OS/2 > Operating System that can't handle a simple keyboard trap? Actually, I've seen this happen all the time with normal desktop computers... especially as the keyboards get over a year old... or if the system has been on a _long_ time without keyboard input. The solution for me is usually unplugging and plugging in the keyboard, then everything is fine... without a reboot. Of course, you can't do this with a laptop. The only suggestion I can think of is to plug a nearby keyboard into the back of the system, and unplug it. Maybe it will then recognise the regular keyboard. This problem seems, IMHO to be exclusively hardware... It affects Win, OS/2, Linux, Be, etc... I've just never seen it on a laptop before. ----Steve Stephen Amadei Director of MIS Dandy Connections, Inc. Atlantic City, NJ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 16:45:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA13399 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:45:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28599; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:45:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:44:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28483; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:44:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from chele.cais.net (rj@chele.cais.com [199.0.216.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28469; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:44:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rj@localhost) by chele.cais.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA08976; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:43:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:43:09 -0500 (EST) From: rj To: "Girasoli, Tony" cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: [701C] WTB: 32MB Memory module In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Try www.thechipmerchant.com. I got my 32MB module for my 701 2yr ago >from them as they had the lowest price and have not had any problems that I'm aware of. YMMV On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, Girasoli, Tony wrote: > Almost forgot... > > I'm looking to buy a cheap 32MB SODIMM for the Thinkpad 701. Thanks for > your help. > > Sincerely, > > Tony Girasoli > girasoli@datacomm.uconn.edu > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 16:47:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA13425 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:47:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28955; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:47:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:47:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28844; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (cave@cavecreations.com [192.41.27.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28772; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:46:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id OAA12984; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:46:37 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:46:37 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199901042146.OAA12984@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: rwhittle@usa.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Best Place to watch for new ThinkPad's? List-Unsubscribe: > You can put a 2nd battery in the Ultraslim bay? I wasn't aware of > that! Is that only with the 600E, or is the "normal" 600 capable of > that too? It's only for the 600E... my slim battery just came today... the system is reporting I have about 6.25 hours of use left. :) -Al -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 17:39:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA13996 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 17:39:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01641; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 17:39:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 17:38:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01542; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 17:38:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01530; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 17:38:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial24.vramp.net (dial24.vramp.net [209.107.20.39]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA19446; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 17:38:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901042238.RAA19446@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: "Paul Khoury" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 17:32:04 -0500 Subject: Re: TP755CD - backlight doesn't work Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <199901042041.MAA16373@stevie.loop.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 4 Jan 99, at 12:43, Paul Khoury wrote in reply to Eyvind Spangen: > If it isn't the tube, it could be the inverter board, which converts the > power from 12VDC to the a thousand or so volts that the tube needs. > That's what I would replace next. I actually have one from a 355C, but > don't know if it would be the same (though the 355/360/750/755 series are > VERY similiar). Also check the wiring of the switch at the left top of the base unit right in front of the hinge. Failure of this switch will prevent the display from illuminating. Depressing the switch while the unit is on should give you an audible signal, even under DOS. Let me know if it's the inverter board. I'll be parting out a 755CD this week which has a shattered display. The DPO swears that his 6 year old attempted to crack a walnut in it! Regards, James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. CaptJHEM@waterw.com Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 21:10:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA16306 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10113; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:10:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:08:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09859; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:08:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09846; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:08:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.27]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA18369; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 18:04:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901050204.SAA18369@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Randal Whittle" , "Stephen Amadei" Cc: "Thom Parkhill" , "TP List" Date: Mon, 04 Jan 99 18:06:08 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Famed OS/2 Stability (Was: keyboard lockup) List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:16:07 -0500 (EST), Stephen Amadei wrote: >On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Randal Whittle wrote: > >> At 09:36 AM 1/3/99 +0200, you wrote: >> >I'm experiencing frequent lockups of my keyboard. >> >> >I'm typing along (using Warp 4, fixpack 7 in a pm or vio os/2 program, or in >> >a dos box) >> >and hit the trackpoint stick (aka eraser head) and a key or two at the same >> >time, and I'm >> >locked up with beeping keys, in all programs, and on the desktop. The >> >pointer still >> >works so I can close everything down, but even a CAD won't work because all >> >the keys >> >will do is beep. So I have to physically turn the computer off to clear the >> >problem. >> > >> >I can replicate the problem by typing fast and bumping the trackpoint stick. >> > >> >Any ideas about what to do about this, besides slowing down or getting new >> >fingers? >> >> Pardon my gloating, but this is the famed, ultra-stable, OS/2 >> Operating System that can't handle a simple keyboard trap? > >Actually, I've seen this happen all the time with normal desktop >computers... especially as the keyboards get over a year old... or if the >system has been on a _long_ time without keyboard input. The solution for >me is usually unplugging and plugging in the keyboard, then everything is >fine... without a reboot. Of course, you can't do this with a laptop. Speaking of OS/2 fixpack stuff, I recently did an online upgrade to FP9 (Warp 4) for my 701. Now when I load up pages in Communicator, some graphics have white lines going horizontally through them. Same happens on here, and this machine has FP6. Is there a file I could replace, or maybe reinstall the video drivers (as much as I hate that)? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.4 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 21:11:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA16314 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:11:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10305; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:11:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:10:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10126; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10114; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:10:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p12.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.27]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA18664; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 18:06:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901050206.SAA18664@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Randal Whittle" , "Thom Parkhill" , "TP List" Date: Mon, 04 Jan 99 18:08:49 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Famed OS/2 Stability (Was: keyboard lockup) List-Unsubscribe: > Pardon my gloating, but this is the famed, ultra-stable, OS/2 >Operating System that can't handle a simple keyboard trap? Actually, Win95/98 is worse. Go to start, run, type debug, press enter. Then type f ffff:0000 ffff 33 and see what happens. Then tell me your opinion. =) -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.4 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 21:31:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA16518 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:31:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11254; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:31:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:30:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11161; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:30:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from pgh.nauticom.net (pgh.nauticom.net [198.190.226.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11148; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:30:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer (42.tcge1.tcge.dialup.nauticom.net [209.195.139.42]) by pgh.nauticom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA28702 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:07:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <004501be3853$0d1566e0$f6dafea9@oemcomputer> From: "Thomas A. Jones" To: Subject: Selectabase 770 PC Card Enabler Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:28:13 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I was wondering if anyone out there has experience with setting up the PC Card Enabler with the Selectabase...I had some problems today doing it & if someone has done it successfully, I'd like to fire some questions at them... Thanks in advance.. 1. Directions are not clear as to whether you have to install any of the software first that comes with the Enabler...some of it appears to be redundant in that it has for example, the ThinkPad Config Utility, which is already on my new 770X...so I assume you do not have to install, does anyone specifically know what included software that comes with is a must? 2. Do you attach the Enabler to the Selectabase before installing software...I did this, and all of a sudden my computer added a new docking configuration & had me re-install my video drivers....at that point, I deleted the new docking set up & shut down until I got further advice...so I think I'm back to square one...I did notice during the set up it was going through, that when the computer detected new hardware, that it installed a "PCI Bridge" if I'm not mistaken..... any help in straightening my situation out would be appreciated.... T Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 21:38:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA16549 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:38:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11764; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:37:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:37:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11674; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:37:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [207.211.168.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11662; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:37:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from kneesaa (user-38ld137.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.132.103]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA26202 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 18:36:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990104213237.00940cf0@mail.newsguy.com> X-Sender: wicket@mail.newsguy.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 21:35:24 -0500 To: From: Alan Wong Subject: FS: 32 and 64 mb SODIMM SDRAM In-Reply-To: <004501be3853$0d1566e0$f6dafea9@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I have three memory modules forsale...all by IBM options. 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Thanks, Alan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 21:42:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA16584 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:42:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12219; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:42:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:42:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12125; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12113; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:41:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.31.236]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990105024126.PGCX23444@dts-jl> for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 02:41:26 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990104214121.00ab36b0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 21:41:21 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Transferring Data In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990103174527.00afc270@rcf.usc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 05:53 PM 1/3/99 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > But...problem: It works to transfer all your data & whatnot, but >transferring your OS and applications is somewhat more problematic, since >registry entries & etc. have to be transferred to. In many cases you can >export & import the appropriate registry keys, but since so many >applications also install additional files in the Win or System >directories, it's usually a lot easier to just stick the install CD into >the new machine and do a quick install. With 20X and higher CD drives >these days, its very quick to do so anyway--back when 2x and 4x was the >norm, I'd have argued that complete re-installs were questionable if you >were quick with the other method, but now...just re-install. You'll be >happier with the ease *and* the speed. > I just upgraded to a 600 and was able to move everything over from a 760XL using a parallel port tape drive. I had the original preload (NT40 SP3) on the 600, installed the driver for the tape drive, and restored the system partition from the 760XL over the 600's. Once I had both notebooks up and running, I pulled my data partition over the network. I had to reload the video, audio, and infrared drivers and TP utility, of course, but my registry, desktop, and network settings survived the transfer intact. So far, so good, and a lot less painful than having to dig up the various floppies and cds to reinstall all my apps from scratch and then find and apply all the upgrades. Oh yes, I uninstalled CardWizard. What a pig. I don't plan to be swapping cards around, so I didn't need the overhead. Jane From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 21:50:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA16663 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:50:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12753; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:50:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:50:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12667; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:49:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from voicenet.com (mail11.voicenet.com [207.103.0.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12654; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:49:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901050249.VAA12654@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: (qmail 3447 invoked from network); 5 Jan 1999 02:49:49 -0000 Received: from dialup16231.voicenet.com (HELO dialup410-pri.voicenet.com) (209.71.57.231) by mail11.voicenet.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 1999 02:49:49 -0000 From: "Stuart Bogom" To: "Paul Khoury" Cc: "TP List" Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 21:43:55 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Stuart Bogom" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <199901050204.SAA18369@stevie.loop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Famed OS/2 Stability (Was: keyboard lockup) List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 04 Jan 99 18:06:08 -0800, Paul Khoury wrote: >>Speaking of OS/2 fixpack stuff, I recently did an online upgrade to FP9 (Warp 4) for my 701. >Now when I load up pages in Communicator, some graphics have white lines going >horizontally through them. Same happens on here, and this machine has FP6. > >Is there a file I could replace, or maybe reinstall the video drivers (as much as I hate that)? > This is actually a bug in some video drivers. See http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Communicator.html#Tips for a work-around... Stuart Bogom From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 21:53:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA16692 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:53:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13283; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:52:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:52:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13101; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13049; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:51:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from tnote (1Cust183.tnt3.dfw5.da.uu.net [153.36.194.183]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA04141; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 18:51:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by tnote with Microsoft Mail id <01BE381B.D0034420@tnote>; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 19:52:51 -0700 Message-ID: <01BE381B.D0034420@tnote> From: Teresa Selling To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "'Thomas A. Jones'" Subject: RE: Selectabase 770 PC Card Enabler Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 19:52:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: You don't need additional software for Win95. Attach the PCMCIA enabler = to the Selectabase, add power, then add your thinkpad. It will add a = new docking configuration and your video will switch to 640x480. Go = into the display settings and set monitor appropriately. If you're not = using an external monitor set the monitor to LCD 1024x768 (assuming you = have the 14.1" lcd). Set resolution and colors. When you want to = disconnect, use the Eject PC choice from the start menu. You may need = to delete the pcmcia devices from device configuration and let all 4 = slots be redetected by rebooting with the thinkpad in the selectabase = with enabler. ---------- From: Thomas A. Jones[SMTP:taj@nauticom.net] Sent: Monday, January 04, 1999 7:28 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Selectabase 770 PC Card Enabler I was wondering if anyone out there has experience with setting up the = PC Card Enabler with the Selectabase...I had some problems today doing it & = if someone has done it successfully, I'd like to fire some questions at = them... Thanks in advance.. 1. Directions are not clear as to whether you have to install any of the software first that comes with the Enabler...some of it appears to be redundant in that it has for example, the ThinkPad Config Utility, which = is already on my new 770X...so I assume you do not have to install, does = anyone specifically know what included software that comes with is a must? 2. Do you attach the Enabler to the Selectabase before installing software...I did this, and all of a sudden my computer added a new = docking configuration & had me re-install my video drivers....at that point, I deleted the new docking set up & shut down until I got further = advice...so I think I'm back to square one...I did notice during the set up it was = going through, that when the computer detected new hardware, that it installed = a "PCI Bridge" if I'm not mistaken..... any help in straightening my situation out would be appreciated.... T Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 21:56:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA16731 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:56:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13743; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:56:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:55:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13591; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13579; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:55:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.31.236]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990105025444.ESG14393@dts-jl> for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 02:54:44 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990104215439.009434a0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 21:54:39 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Use 701 FDD on 600? In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990103124700.00a11470@postoffice.worldnet.att.n et> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:47 PM 1/3/99 -0500, I wrote: >Does anyone know if there's a cable available that will let me use the 701 >floppy drive with a 600? > In case there's anyone else that has one of the 701 floppy drives and wants to use it with their 600, I got an answer from IBM ESS. They said that the part number of the cable I need is 83H6276 (FRU 12J0432). Expensive little sucker - it's over $60. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 22:20:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA17198 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:20:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14902; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:20:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:20:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14792; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14771; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-2.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.2]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA06931 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:18:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990104222230.00998100@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 22:22:30 -0500 To: "TP List" From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Famed OS/2 Stability (Was: keyboard lockup) In-Reply-To: <199901050206.SAA18664@stevie.loop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 06:08 PM 1/4/99 -0800, Paul Khoury wrote: > >> Pardon my gloating, but this is the famed, ultra-stable, OS/2 >>Operating System that can't handle a simple keyboard trap? >Actually, Win95/98 is worse. Go to start, run, type debug, press enter. >Then type f ffff:0000 ffff 33 >and see what happens. >Then tell me your opinion. =) Hey, the point is ALL OSes can and will crash from time to time. It is just at what interval. ;) Let's not get into a Holy OS War here! ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 22:49:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA17560 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:49:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16115; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:48:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16029; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:48:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pgh.nauticom.net (pgh.nauticom.net [198.190.226.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16017; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomscomputer (24.pitt1.pitt.dialup.nauticom.net [209.195.137.24]) by pgh.nauticom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA21107 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:24:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000101be385e$b5d0e4c0$1889c3d1@tomscomputer> From: "Thomas A. Jones" To: "ThinkPad" Subject: Docking Configurations Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:51:42 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: How many Docking Configuartions can be created...is there a limit? Tom Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 23:01:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA17687 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:01:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16720; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:00:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:00:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16628; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:00:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16616; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:00:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from theriver.com (a21.pm3-30.theriver.com [206.102.195.133]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA19115; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:00:18 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36918E73.D3C016E@theriver.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 21:00:51 -0700 From: James J Mckenzie Reply-To: os2support@theriver.com Organization: None X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Thomas A. Jones" CC: ThinkPad Subject: Re: Docking Configurations References: <000101be385e$b5d0e4c0$1889c3d1@tomscomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Which Operating System? Under Windows95, I had two different configurations for Docked and three for Undocked. James Thomas A. Jones wrote: > > How many Docking Configuartions can be created...is there a limit? > > Tom Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 23:10:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA17783 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:10:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17288; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:09:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:09:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17197; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:09:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pgh.nauticom.net (pgh.nauticom.net [198.190.226.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17185; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:09:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomscomputer (24.pitt1.pitt.dialup.nauticom.net [209.195.137.24]) by pgh.nauticom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA29906 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:45:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000b01be3861$a623cda0$1889c3d1@tomscomputer> From: "Thomas A. Jones" To: "ThinkPad" Subject: Docking Configurations Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:12:44 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I'm using Win 98 Tom Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 23:38:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA18060 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:38:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18436; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:38:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:37:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18255; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:37:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18243; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:37:12 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from LOCALNAME ([12.74.70.166]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990105043640.HNHK18419@LOCALNAME> for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 04:36:40 +0000 Comments: Authenticated sender is To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 02:27:46 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: 1410 problems, less-than-great IBM service Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Message-Id: <19990105043640.HNHK18419@LOCALNAME> List-Unsubscribe: I type this on an ancient 360C because my month-old i1410 went suddenly dead New Year's Eve. It was in suspend screen and would not come on, even with the IBM tech giving me every direction in the world. Then it came on Saturday, then on and off, etc. I made arrangements--or so I thought--to have the box sent to me so I could send the 1410 to be repaired (and this was New Year's Eve, Thursday); no box had arrived today so I called, waited on hold for two hours, then found out the order for the box to be sent to me had never been made. So the box may arrive tomorrow or Wednesday. I have had Thinkpads for four years and this is the first time IBm has disappointed me--both in service and also in the fact that there is a bad connection in my new computer, which I adore. I guess it's all those people who got computers for Christmas? --AJ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 4 23:52:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA18208 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:52:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19113; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:52:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:52:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18998; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:52:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18986; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:52:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial15.vramp.net (dial15.vramp.net [209.107.20.30]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA11102; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:52:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901050452.XAA11102@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: "Thomas A. Jones" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:45:55 -0500 Subject: Re: Docking Configurations Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <000101be385e$b5d0e4c0$1889c3d1@tomscomputer> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 4 Jan 99, at 22:51, Thomas A. Jones wrote: > How many Docking Configuartions can be created...is there a limit? None that I'm aware of. I've three different docked configs and three undocked configs. on a 755CD under Win95 and the same under Win98 on my 760XL. Regards, James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. CaptJHEM@waterw.com Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 00:06:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA18336 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:06:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19843; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:06:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:05:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19729; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:05:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from sh1.ro.com (IDENT:0@sh1.ro.com [205.216.92.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19716; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:05:48 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from socrates (ts1p13.ro.com [205.216.92.33]) by sh1.ro.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA08771 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:05:43 -0600 Message-Id: <199901050505.XAA08771@sh1.ro.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 23:05:01 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Famed OS/2 Stability (Was: keyboard lockup) X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.51 b51 List-Unsubscribe: Stephen Amadei said the following on the auspicious date of 99-01-04: >On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Randal Whittle wrote: >> At 09:36 AM 1/3/99 +0200, you wrote: >> >I'm experiencing frequent lockups of my keyboard. >> >> >I'm typing along (using Warp 4, fixpack 7 in a pm or vio os/2 program, or in >> >a dos box) >> >and hit the trackpoint stick (aka eraser head) and a key or two at the same >> >time, and I'm >> >locked up with beeping keys, in all programs, and on the desktop. The >> >pointer still >> >works so I can close everything down, but even a CAD won't work because all >> >the keys >> >will do is beep. So I have to physically turn the computer off to clear the >> >problem. >> > >> >I can replicate the problem by typing fast and bumping the trackpoint stick. >> > >> >Any ideas about what to do about this, besides slowing down or getting new >> >fingers? >> >> Pardon my gloating, but this is the famed, ultra-stable, OS/2 >> Operating System that can't handle a simple keyboard trap? No, its just Randal Whittle doing a pointless attack on the wrong target. >Actually, I've seen this happen all the time with normal desktop >computers... especially as the keyboards get over a year old... or if the >system has been on a _long_ time without keyboard input. The solution >for me is usually unplugging and plugging in the keyboard, then >everything is fine... without a reboot. Of course, you can't do this >with a laptop. >The only suggestion I can think of is to plug a nearby keyboard into the >back of the system, and unplug it. Maybe it will then recognise the >regular keyboard. >This problem seems, IMHO to be exclusively hardware... It affects Win, >OS/2, Linux, Be, etc... I've just never seen it on a laptop before. I have the same problem with my ThinkPad. It seems to be caused by a sticky shift key. All I have to do is depress the shift key(s), and maybe the control and alternate keys, seperatly and the problem is gone. It never happens with external keyboards for me, but those keyboards lack the problem when used with other systems, too. -------------------------------------------------- Windows95 -- An entomologist's dream Jeff Jackowski http://ro.com/~jeffj/ OS/2 WPS (Desktop) Tips, remote i-net dialup "Luncheon meats make the sawdust in your stomach explode." -- Crow T. Robot From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 00:57:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA18797 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:57:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22030; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:57:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:56:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21831; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:56:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from netdoor.com (root@netdoor.com [208.137.128.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21819; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:56:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp560e (port15.stk.netdoor.com [208.137.149.79]) by netdoor.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA11279 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:56:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <009701be3870$11a3e980$4f9589d0@tp560e> From: "SK560" To: Subject: [tp560] wetsuit 1.0 or 3.0 Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:55:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 List-Unsubscribe: hi.... i have a tp560e and i'm going to get a wetsuit.... but i'm not sure wheather wetsuit 1.0 or 3.0 is better for tp560. thanks in advance. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 04, 1999 11:05 PM Subject: Re: Famed OS/2 Stability (Was: keyboard lockup) >Stephen Amadei said the following on the auspicious date of 99-01-04: > >>On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Randal Whittle wrote: > >>> At 09:36 AM 1/3/99 +0200, you wrote: >>> >I'm experiencing frequent lockups of my keyboard. >>> >>> >I'm typing along (using Warp 4, fixpack 7 in a pm or vio os/2 program, or in >>> >a dos box) >>> >and hit the trackpoint stick (aka eraser head) and a key or two at the same >>> >time, and I'm >>> >locked up with beeping keys, in all programs, and on the desktop. The >>> >pointer still >>> >works so I can close everything down, but even a CAD won't work because all >>> >the keys >>> >will do is beep. So I have to physically turn the computer off to clear the >>> >problem. >>> > >>> >I can replicate the problem by typing fast and bumping the trackpoint stick. >>> > >>> >Any ideas about what to do about this, besides slowing down or getting new >>> >fingers? >>> >>> Pardon my gloating, but this is the famed, ultra-stable, OS/2 >>> Operating System that can't handle a simple keyboard trap? > >No, its just Randal Whittle doing a pointless attack on the wrong target. > >>Actually, I've seen this happen all the time with normal desktop >>computers... especially as the keyboards get over a year old... or if the >>system has been on a _long_ time without keyboard input. The solution >>for me is usually unplugging and plugging in the keyboard, then >>everything is fine... without a reboot. Of course, you can't do this >>with a laptop. > >>The only suggestion I can think of is to plug a nearby keyboard into the >>back of the system, and unplug it. Maybe it will then recognise the >>regular keyboard. > >>This problem seems, IMHO to be exclusively hardware... It affects Win, >>OS/2, Linux, Be, etc... I've just never seen it on a laptop before. > >I have the same problem with my ThinkPad. It seems to be caused by a sticky shift key. All I have to do is depress the shift key(s), and maybe the control and alternate keys, seperatly and the problem is gone. It never happens with external keyboards for me, but those keyboards lack the problem when used with other systems, too. > >-------------------------------------------------- >Windows95 -- An entomologist's dream > >Jeff Jackowski http://ro.com/~jeffj/ > OS/2 WPS (Desktop) Tips, remote i-net dialup >"Luncheon meats make the sawdust in your stomach > explode." -- Crow T. Robot > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 01:08:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA18885 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 01:08:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22555; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 01:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 01:07:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22468; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 01:07:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22456; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 01:07:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-037.usc.edu [128.125.224.37]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id WAA05719; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:07:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990104215656.00b10d90@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 22:07:14 -0800 To: , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Famed OS/2 Stability (Was: keyboard lockup) In-Reply-To: <199901050505.XAA08771@sh1.ro.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:05 PM 1/4/99 -0600, you wrote: >>> Pardon my gloating, but this is the famed, ultra-stable, OS/2 >>> Operating System that can't handle a simple keyboard trap? > >No, its just Randal Whittle doing a pointless attack on the wrong target. Take it easy Jeff--I was just poking a little fun. It was good-natured, not a "pointless attack". There's only a couple of people on this list that go back to its inception as I do, and they know that I personally have at one time or another had OS/2 installed on my machines (though it has been a while), and for that matter my family name has a legacy attached to it that true OS/2 afficianados will recognize. I'm no stranger to--nor an enemy--of OS/2 and its roots. I do muse at the minions of various OS's that claim their favorite to be solid, stable, etc. In my experience, its pretty much B.S. I had various versions of OS/2 on my machine and it crashed far more than I ever expected it would. I even had a PowerMac--sheesh, the MacOS is no less buggy than Windows and anyone who says otherwise must not load any extensions. I'm sure OS/2 has improved greatly since I last used it (version 3? Whenever they began the "Warp" moniker), and I really do wish that it had won the OS wars, but Windows did and there's not much I can do about it. I'm not willing to step into niche apps and scratch my way through conversions to communicate with other people (I did plenty of that with the Mac), so whether I like it or not, I'm pretty much stuck with Windows--that is until the rest of the world changes too. Perhaps when Sun Microsystems' and Scott McNealy's vision of networked computers catches on, the OS will be irrelevant anyway. Until then... - Randy From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 03:38:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA20280 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 03:38:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27347; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 03:38:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 03:36:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27103; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 03:36:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27091; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 03:36:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA22204; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:35:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:35:31 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Randal Whittle cc: TP List Subject: Re: Transferring Data In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990103174527.00afc270@rcf.usc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Randal Whittle wrote: > At 04:33 PM 1/3/99 -0800, you wrote: > > Right now I have a 385ED and I'm planning to get a more powerful > >ThinkPad with a Pentium II processor... Is there a easy way to transfer > >all the data from my current machine to the new ThinkPad easily? > > I swear by (not *at*) LapLink. I have version 7.5, but I think a recent > upgrade came out--but I'm happy with what I've got, so I have no desire to > upgrade. > > My preferred method is by Ethernet (LapLink works over TCP/IP *and* IPX > protocols), and I happen to have 2 Ethernet cards to do it with from laptop > to laptop, else I could use my desktop machine as intermediary. But if you > get the appropriate version of Laplink, you'll get cables with it to go by > parallel port (*much* slower). You could probably also do it by USB (I > think the newer version supports that), assuming your current/old TP has a > USB port. > > But...problem: It works to transfer all your data & whatnot, but > transferring your OS and applications is somewhat more problematic, since > registry entries & etc. have to be transferred to. In many cases you can > export & import the appropriate registry keys, but since so many > applications also install additional files in the Win or System > directories, it's usually a lot easier to just stick the install CD into > the new machine and do a quick install. With 20X and higher CD drives > these days, its very quick to do so anyway--back when 2x and 4x was the > norm, I'd have argued that complete re-installs were questionable if you > were quick with the other method, but now...just re-install. You'll be > happier with the ease *and* the speed. > > It ain't too bad...I've done it many times. :-) Hmmm, thanks for the input. What's the difference between LapLink and PCAnywhere? Anyways, I was wondering if assuming I bought a better notebook, can I just remove the 385ED Hard Drive and then make a sector by sector copy of the drive and will it work with the new system since I installed win98 on my own and then installed the drivers provided by IBM. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 04:06:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA20516 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 04:06:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA28512; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 04:06:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 04:05:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA28303; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 04:05:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA28285; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 04:05:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA22407; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 01:04:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 01:04:46 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Randal Whittle cc: TP List Subject: Re: Transferring Data In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Vincent Poy wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Randal Whittle wrote: > > > At 04:33 PM 1/3/99 -0800, you wrote: > > > Right now I have a 385ED and I'm planning to get a more powerful > > >ThinkPad with a Pentium II processor... Is there a easy way to transfer > > >all the data from my current machine to the new ThinkPad easily? > > > > I swear by (not *at*) LapLink. I have version 7.5, but I think a recent > > upgrade came out--but I'm happy with what I've got, so I have no desire to > > upgrade. > > > > My preferred method is by Ethernet (LapLink works over TCP/IP *and* IPX > > protocols), and I happen to have 2 Ethernet cards to do it with from laptop > > to laptop, else I could use my desktop machine as intermediary. But if you > > get the appropriate version of Laplink, you'll get cables with it to go by > > parallel port (*much* slower). You could probably also do it by USB (I > > think the newer version supports that), assuming your current/old TP has a > > USB port. > > > > But...problem: It works to transfer all your data & whatnot, but > > transferring your OS and applications is somewhat more problematic, since > > registry entries & etc. have to be transferred to. In many cases you can > > export & import the appropriate registry keys, but since so many > > applications also install additional files in the Win or System > > directories, it's usually a lot easier to just stick the install CD into > > the new machine and do a quick install. With 20X and higher CD drives > > these days, its very quick to do so anyway--back when 2x and 4x was the > > norm, I'd have argued that complete re-installs were questionable if you > > were quick with the other method, but now...just re-install. You'll be > > happier with the ease *and* the speed. > > > > It ain't too bad...I've done it many times. :-) > > Hmmm, thanks for the input. What's the difference between LapLink > and PCAnywhere? Anyways, I was wondering if assuming I bought a better > notebook, can I just remove the 385ED Hard Drive and then make a sector by > sector copy of the drive and will it work with the new system since I > installed win98 on my own and then installed the drivers provided by IBM. I forgot to mention that not all the stuff I have is available on CD's or floppies... There are things that will take a few days downloading and I still will miss. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 04:17:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA20598 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 04:17:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29462; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 04:17:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 04:16:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29306; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 04:16:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29293; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 04:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA22480; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 01:15:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 01:15:23 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Jane Loyless cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Transferring Data In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990104214121.00ab36b0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, Jane Loyless wrote: > At 05:53 PM 1/3/99 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > > > But...problem: It works to transfer all your data & whatnot, but > >transferring your OS and applications is somewhat more problematic, since > >registry entries & etc. have to be transferred to. In many cases you can > >export & import the appropriate registry keys, but since so many > >applications also install additional files in the Win or System > >directories, it's usually a lot easier to just stick the install CD into > >the new machine and do a quick install. With 20X and higher CD drives > >these days, its very quick to do so anyway--back when 2x and 4x was the > >norm, I'd have argued that complete re-installs were questionable if you > >were quick with the other method, but now...just re-install. You'll be > >happier with the ease *and* the speed. > > > > I just upgraded to a 600 and was able to move everything over from a 760XL > using a parallel port tape drive. I had the original preload (NT40 SP3) on > the 600, installed the driver for the tape drive, and restored the system > partition from the 760XL over the 600's. Once I had both notebooks up and > running, I pulled my data partition over the network. I had to reload the > video, audio, and infrared drivers and TP utility, of course, but my > registry, desktop, and network settings survived the transfer intact. So > far, so good, and a lot less painful than having to dig up the various > floppies and cds to reinstall all my apps from scratch and then find and > apply all the upgrades. > > Oh yes, I uninstalled CardWizard. What a pig. I don't plan to be swapping > cards around, so I didn't need the overhead. So it would actually work pretty much like on a DeskTop where I can copy a smaller drive to a bigger drive and then change the motherboard? Are there any drawbacks to like if I wiped the new notebooks drive clean and then just used drivecopy to duplicate the drive and then use partitionmagic to make the partition bigger? I guess as long as I get the drivers in for the new machine, then things would be fine but I thought ThinkPad has the pre-loaded apps only if you use their cd to install or can you just install individual pre-loaded apps on top of a working system? I have a question though, does the 560, 660 or the 770 come with floppy drives? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 06:06:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA24548 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 06:06:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA06458; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 06:06:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 06:04:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA06248; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 06:04:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from argos.sae.gr (root@argos.sae.gr [194.219.29.77]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA06236; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 06:04:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from laertis (laertis.sae.gr [194.219.29.69]) by argos.sae.gr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18067 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:04:19 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990105130359.01c7a9bc@argos.sae.gr> X-Sender: gmich@argos.sae.gr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 13:04:00 +0200 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "George A. 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Michalopoulos =D3=F5=EC=E2=EF=FD=EB=E9=EF =C1=F0=EF=E4=DE=EC=EF=F5 =C5=EB=EB=E7=ED=E9=F3= =EC=EF=FD http://www.sae.gr From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 11:33:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA27347 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:33:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18998; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:30:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:28:50 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18695; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:28:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id LAA09078 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:28:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18327; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:23:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-048.usc.edu [128.125.223.48]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id IAA07234; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 08:23:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990105082021.00b14b80@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 08:23:19 -0800 To: Vincent Poy , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Transferring Data In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19990103174527.00afc270@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:35 AM 1/5/99 -0800, you wrote: > Hmmm, thanks for the input. What's the difference between LapLink >and PCAnywhere? LapLink is a PC to PC file transfer program with various automation capabilities. It works over cables, Ethernet, Modem (direct or via Internet)...and it also happens to have the capability to control a remote PC as well--and it does so quite fabulously. PCAnywhere, to my knowledge, only has the remote control capability, and >from what I understand, it doesn't do it as well as LapLink. > Anyways, I was wondering if assuming I bought a better >notebook, can I just remove the 385ED Hard Drive and then make a sector by >sector copy of the drive and will it work with the new system since I >installed win98 on my own and then installed the drivers provided by IBM. If you have an adapter (two of them, I guess) and a desktop machine to do it with, Powerquest's "Drive Copy" will likely to the job for you in 20 minutes flat, drive installation included. - Randy From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 12:36:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA28218 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22974; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:34:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:32:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22836; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:32:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22816; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:32:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA24737; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 09:31:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 09:31:25 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Randal Whittle cc: TP List Subject: Re: Transferring Data In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990105082021.00b14b80@rcf.usc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Randal Whittle wrote: > At 12:35 AM 1/5/99 -0800, you wrote: > > Hmmm, thanks for the input. What's the difference between LapLink > >and PCAnywhere? > > LapLink is a PC to PC file transfer program with various automation > capabilities. It works over cables, Ethernet, Modem (direct or via > Internet)...and it also happens to have the capability to control a remote > PC as well--and it does so quite fabulously. > > PCAnywhere, to my knowledge, only has the remote control capability, and > from what I understand, it doesn't do it as well as LapLink. Actually, it seems like PCAnywhere does the same thing you mentioned. > > Anyways, I was wondering if assuming I bought a better > >notebook, can I just remove the 385ED Hard Drive and then make a sector by > >sector copy of the drive and will it work with the new system since I > >installed win98 on my own and then installed the drivers provided by IBM. > > If you have an adapter (two of them, I guess) and a desktop > machine to do it with, Powerquest's "Drive Copy" will likely to the > job for you in 20 minutes flat, drive installation included. Hmmm, but how do I remove the drive out of the 385ED? I thought there were PCMCIA cards to hook up a drive too... Now I wonder where I can get the 2.5" Notebook IDE adapters. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 12:48:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA28370 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:47:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23871; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:45:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:44:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23767; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:44:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from ares.actionwebs.net (root@ares.actionwebs.net [208.244.215.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23695; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:43:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from markl (customer-154.actionwebs.net [208.244.215.154]) by ares.actionwebs.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA09264; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:42:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:54:59 -0500 Message-ID: <01BE38AA.99EB8F20.mlemon@hickseq.com> From: Mark Lemon Reply-To: "mlemon@hickseq.com" To: "'Ken'" , "'Thinkpad'" Subject: RE: [AnyLaptop] What's needed to use US laptop in Europe? Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:53:14 -0500 Organization: Hicks Equipment, Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > What will I need to get for my US laptop so I can use it in England? What > power and phone adapters are needed? Are proprietary adapters needed, or > is this stuff really generic? Every store in London will have US 2-prong to UK x-prong adapter for $5-10. They stock them for the tourists. They will work with most appliances that have the 110v-220v switch (shaver, blowdryer), or is autosensing like a Toshiba laptop or a late-model thinkpad brick. The computer stores will sell you a kit of 50 different phone adapters so you can plug in your laptop modem. I couldn't find just a US-UK converter as a separate component. You have to have the converter plug. My suggestion - look up this stuff on the net and purchase it before you go. If you aren't in a major city in the UK, you'll have to shop to find what you need. If you're in London, etc. they will charge retail. Cheers. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 13:08:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA28619 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:08:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25185; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:06:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:06:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25095; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:05:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25081; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:05:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial3.vramp.net (dial3.vramp.net [209.107.20.18]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA10636; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:05:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901051805.NAA10636@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: Vincent Poy , TP List Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:05:50 -0500 Subject: Re: Transferring Data Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal References: <4.1.19990105082021.00b14b80@rcf.usc.edu> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 5 Jan 99, at 9:31, Vincent Poy wrote: > Actually, it seems like PCAnywhere does the same thing you > mentioned. To the best of my knowledge PCAnywhere does not support cable connections between computers, only modem or internet. > Hmmm, but how do I remove the drive out of the 385ED? I thought > there were PCMCIA cards to hook up a drive too... Now I wonder where I > can get the 2.5" Notebook IDE adapters. http://www.compgeeks.com/cgi-bin/prod_disp.asp?cat=Drives Item no. 205-1991, $6.50, Universal 2.5 inch to 3.5 inch adapter. I just got several from them and they work great. Throw the drives in an "extra" desktop and copy/clone drives 'til the cows come home. We find this especially useful when setting up multiple laptops for clients who want them _exactly_ the same. There are many places to get PCMCIA to HD adapters, but they're a lot more than $6.50. Good luck, James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. CaptJHEM@waterw.com Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 13:17:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA28721 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:17:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25918; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:14:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:14:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25793; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:14:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25773; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:13:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p29.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.44]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA22551; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:11:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901051811.KAA22551@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "jeffj@ro.com" Date: Tue, 05 Jan 99 10:13:13 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Famed OS/2 Stability (Was: keyboard lockup) List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 04 Jan 1999 23:05:01 -0600, jeffj@ro.com wrote: >Stephen Amadei said the following on the auspicious date of 99-01-04: > >>On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Randal Whittle wrote: > >>> At 09:36 AM 1/3/99 +0200, you wrote: >>> >I'm experiencing frequent lockups of my keyboard. >>> >>> >I'm typing along (using Warp 4, fixpack 7 in a pm or vio os/2 program, or in >>> >a dos box) >>> >and hit the trackpoint stick (aka eraser head) and a key or two at the same >>> >time, and I'm >>> >locked up with beeping keys, in all programs, and on the desktop. The >>> >pointer still >>> >works so I can close everything down, but even a CAD won't work because all >>> >the keys >>> >will do is beep. So I have to physically turn the computer off to clear the >>> >problem. >>> > >>> >I can replicate the problem by typing fast and bumping the trackpoint stick. >>> > >>> >Any ideas about what to do about this, besides slowing down or getting new >>> >fingers? >>> >>> Pardon my gloating, but this is the famed, ultra-stable, OS/2 >>> Operating System that can't handle a simple keyboard trap? > >No, its just Randal Whittle doing a pointless attack on the wrong target. > >>Actually, I've seen this happen all the time with normal desktop >>computers... especially as the keyboards get over a year old... or if the >>system has been on a _long_ time without keyboard input. The solution >>for me is usually unplugging and plugging in the keyboard, then >>everything is fine... without a reboot. Of course, you can't do this >>with a laptop. > >>The only suggestion I can think of is to plug a nearby keyboard into the >>back of the system, and unplug it. Maybe it will then recognise the >>regular keyboard. > >>This problem seems, IMHO to be exclusively hardware... It affects Win, >>OS/2, Linux, Be, etc... I've just never seen it on a laptop before. > >I have the same problem with my ThinkPad. It seems to be caused by a sticky shift key. All I have to do is depress the shift key(s), and maybe the control and alternate keys, seperatly and the problem is gone. It never happens with external keyboards for me, but those keyboards lack the problem when used with other systems, too. I've seen the same on my machine, though rarely now, on both NT 4 and OS/2 4. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.4 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 13:24:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA28783 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:24:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26781; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:22:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:21:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26599; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:21:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26554; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:21:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p29.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.44]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA23312; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:16:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901051816.KAA23312@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Mark Bell" , "TP List" Date: Tue, 05 Jan 99 10:19:01 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Famed OS/2 Stability (Was: keyboard lockup) List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 04 Jan 1999 22:22:30 -0500, Mark Bell wrote: >At 06:08 PM 1/4/99 -0800, Paul Khoury wrote: >> >>> Pardon my gloating, but this is the famed, ultra-stable, OS/2 >>>Operating System that can't handle a simple keyboard trap? >>Actually, Win95/98 is worse. Go to start, run, type debug, press enter. >>Then type f ffff:0000 ffff 33 >>and see what happens. >>Then tell me your opinion. =) > >Hey, the point is ALL OSes can and will crash from time to time. It is just >at what interval. ;) Let's not get into a Holy OS War here! Yeah, I was hoping I wouldn't have to start one. But I'm just curious, did anybody try my debug trick? With all applications shut down and saved to be on the safe side? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.4 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 13:26:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA28797 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:26:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26381; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:19:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:18:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26279; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:18:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26266; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:18:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p29.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.44]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA23225; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:15:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901051815.KAA23225@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "jeffj@ro.com" , "Randal Whittle" , "TP List" Date: Tue, 05 Jan 99 10:18:05 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Famed OS/2 Stability (Was: keyboard lockup) List-Unsubscribe: > I'm sure OS/2 has improved greatly since I last used it (version 3? Depends on what you do and don't load up. Personally, I hate IBM's Warpcenter. Without it, I have it looking just like Warp 3, but it performs great. I only reboot if I make changes to my config.sys, or my startup file is too large after having the ThinkPad on for about a week (I don't turn any machines off here, so the power switch will get the least wear and tear). >Whenever they began the "Warp" moniker), and I really do wish that it had >won the OS wars, but Windows did and there's not much I can do about it. >I'm not willing to step into niche apps and scratch my way through >conversions to communicate with other people (I did plenty of that with the >Mac), so whether I like it or not, I'm pretty much stuck with Windows--that >is until the rest of the world changes too. Perhaps when Sun Microsystems' >and Scott McNealy's vision of networked computers catches on, the OS will >be irrelevant anyway. Until then... Solaris? Nah... Besides OS/2, that's the other OS I'm ALWAYS using (I leave NT on the floor cracking RC5 blocks). And while my OS is old, there are SO many high quality apps for it (at least the SPARC version), so I wouldn't say you HAVE to be stuck with Windows. Plus, I've never had the whole system crash on me yet. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.4 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 13:31:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA28850 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27624; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:28:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:28:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27507; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:28:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.243]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27487; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:28:12 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from robinson.math.hawaii.edu (slip166-72-236-98.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.236.98]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA184750; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:28:07 GMT Message-ID: <002b01be38d9$1e99b0c0$62ec48a6@robinson.math.hawaii.edu> To: , Subject: Re: 1410 problems, less-than-great IBM service Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 08:27:54 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: "I made arrangements--or so I thought--to have the box sent to me so I could send the 1410 to be repaired (and this was New Year's Eve, Thursday); no box had arrived today so I called, waited on hold for two hours, then found out the order for the box to be sent to me had never been made. So the box may arrive tomorrow or Wednesday." I'm in a similar situation. I'm travelling in California en route to England; when I arrived here on Jan 1 I found the plastic on my 560's lid (around where the latch would grab) was shattered. Called IBM, arranged a box. When it wasn't here by Monday noon, I called again. They promised a box by Monday afternoon. Here it is Tuesday, still no box. (I just called again,...) For me there's a *big* time constraint - if I don't get the machine repaired and back by the weekend, they'll have to ship it to me in England (where I'll be for over 5 months). I think Airborne (wo ships the boxes) is having trouble because of the holidays and the midwestern weather. BTW, while my original warrantee was supposed to expire last year (I bought an extended warrantee), when I called IBM they told me that my original warrantee was still in effect. Strange! Incidentally, does anybody remember the number one calls to "register" a US warrantee in Europe? - David R. (ross@math.hawaii.edu) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 13:35:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA28890 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:35:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28223; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:33:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:32:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27990; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:32:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.243]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27976; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:32:44 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from robinson.math.hawaii.edu (slip166-72-236-98.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.236.98]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA33470; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:32:32 GMT Message-ID: <003801be38d9$bc4bde60$62ec48a6@robinson.math.hawaii.edu> To: "Vincent Poy" , "Randal Whittle" Cc: "TP List" Subject: External enclosures (was: Re: Transferring Data) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 08:32:20 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > Hmmm, but how do I remove the drive out of the 385ED? I thought >there were PCMCIA cards to hook up a drive too... Now I wonder where I >can get the 2.5" Notebook IDE adapters. I just bought an H45 external drive enclosure (dual parallel port/pcmcia) from Fry's for $99; installed it last night, works great! (This was my second attempt at such a thing, the one I bought from J&R in NYC came missing parts.) Mine is for a 3.5" drive, but they also had one for 2.5" drives for about the same price. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 13:41:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA28972 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:41:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29505; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:40:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:39:46 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29305; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:39:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id NAA09914 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:39:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22735; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:32:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-048.usc.edu [128.125.223.48]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id JAA24406; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 09:31:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990105091719.00b154b0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 09:31:42 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Follow up on 64 MB RAM FS... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: To answer a question I got earlier about the 64 MB EDO RAM chip I have for sale (which went in my original TP 560 that is now deceased)... The following models all took the same memory module, so presumably this RAM module will work in all of them: Thinkpad models 365X (not 365), 760E, 560, and 380 Original specs for the 560 never mention that it could take a 64 MB module, but it worked just fine in mine. Again, e-mail offers in private mail to rwhittle@usa.net. I'm thinking something on the order of $60 OBO (plus shipping--free if you want to pick it up in L.A.) - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 13:42:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA28989 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:42:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29842; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:42:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:41:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29515; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29468; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:40:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (root@localhost) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15279 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:40:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from dts-jl (DTS_JL.uhc.com [10.145.181.71]) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA15202 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:40:34 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990105134027.00b581b0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 13:40:27 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: 1410 problems, less-than-great IBM service In-Reply-To: <002b01be38d9$1e99b0c0$62ec48a6@robinson.math.hawaii.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:27 AM 1/5/99 -1000, David Ross wrote: >>"I made >>arrangements--or so I thought--to have the box sent to me so I could >>send the 1410 to be repaired (and this was New Year's Eve, Thursday); >>no box had arrived today so I called, waited on hold for two hours, >>then found out the order for the box to be sent to me had never been >>made. So the box may arrive tomorrow or Wednesday." > >I'm in a similar situation. I'm travelling in California en route to England; >when I arrived here >on Jan 1 I found the plastic on my 560's lid (around where the latch would >grab) was shattered. >Called IBM, arranged a box. When it wasn't here by Monday noon, I called >again. They promised a box >by Monday afternoon. Here it is Tuesday, still no box. (I just called >again,...) For me >there's a *big* time constraint - if I don't get the machine repaired and back >by the weekend, >they'll have to ship it to me in England (where I'll be for over 5 months). > >I think Airborne (wo ships the boxes) is having trouble because of the >holidays and the >midwestern weather. > Interesting - I called in yesterday, and the box came in while I was at lunch today. Wonder if it's location dependent on how quickly the box gets there? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 13:47:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA29034 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:47:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00857; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:47:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:47:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00705; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:47:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00690; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:47:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (root@localhost) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA17690 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:46:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from dts-jl (DTS_JL.uhc.com [10.145.181.71]) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA17683 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:46:58 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990105134654.00ac8460@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 13:46:54 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Transferring Data In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19990104214121.00ab36b0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 01:15 AM 1/5/99 -0800, Vincent Poy wrote: > So it would actually work pretty much like on a DeskTop where I >can copy a smaller drive to a bigger drive and then change the >motherboard? Are there any drawbacks to like if I wiped the new notebooks >drive clean and then just used drivecopy to duplicate the drive and then >use partitionmagic to make the partition bigger? I guess as long as I get >the drivers in for the new machine, then things would be fine but I >thought ThinkPad has the pre-loaded apps only if you use their cd to >install or can you just install individual pre-loaded apps on top of a >working system? I have a question though, does the 560, 660 or the 770 >come with floppy drives? > Don't have an answer for you there about the pre-loaded apps or Drivecopy (never used it). I had tried to plop my image over a fresh NT40 install and got a BSOD immediately that I couldn't work around, so I used the Recovery CD to restore the preload, then overlaid it (I had used NTBackup so I had to have NT installed to do the restore), and then applied the correct drivers. Yes, the 560, 600 (what's a 660?) and the 770 all come with floppy drives. Jane From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 14:27:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA29532 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 14:27:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03589; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 14:27:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 14:26:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03455; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 14:26:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.2.78]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03430; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 14:26:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from hseaman.execpc.com (ferengal-1-120.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.128.120]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.9.0) id NAA18918 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:26:11 -0600 (CST) From: "Harry Seaman" To: Subject: Floppy Problem, 760EL Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:26:45 -0600 Message-ID: <01be38e1$7e8205c0$7880cfa9@hseaman.execpc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: I wonder if anyone has had this problem, and maybe a solution: It's a 760EL, type 9547-U6G The inboard floppy drive dosen't work. It does appear in My Computer, but a known good floppy can't be read, error message says not formatted. I tried to format, but got "Windows could not format this disk. Either the selected capacity is not valid for this disk, or the disk is damaged and may need to be replaced." The floppy drive has been removed and reseated, no difference resulted. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 15:21:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA00371 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06549; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:21:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:20:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06420; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:20:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06398; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:20:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-048.usc.edu [128.125.223.48]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id MAA17628 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:20:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990105121958.00b15a20@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 12:20:05 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Transferring Data Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:31 AM 1/5/99 -0800, you wrote: >> LapLink is a PC to PC file transfer program with various automation >> capabilities. It works over cables, Ethernet, Modem (direct or via >> Internet)...and it also happens to have the capability to control a remote >> PC as well--and it does so quite fabulously. >> >> PCAnywhere, to my knowledge, only has the remote control capability, and >> from what I understand, it doesn't do it as well as LapLink. > > Actually, it seems like PCAnywhere does the same thing you >mentioned. I don't know that it does the direct cable transfers--I think its designed to work only over remote connections (modem). Regardless, LapLink has beaten the pants off of PCAnywhere in every review I've seen, and in every category. I used PCAnywhere in an old, previous version, and hated it. LapLink 7.5 (admittedly in its current, new version) is wonderful and simple. >> > Anyways, I was wondering if assuming I bought a better >> >notebook, can I just remove the 385ED Hard Drive and then make a sector by >> >sector copy of the drive and will it work with the new system since I >> >installed win98 on my own and then installed the drivers provided by IBM. >> >> If you have an adapter (two of them, I guess) and a desktop >> machine to do it with, Powerquest's "Drive Copy" will likely to the >> job for you in 20 minutes flat, drive installation included. > > Hmmm, but how do I remove the drive out of the 385ED? I thought >there were PCMCIA cards to hook up a drive too... Now I wonder where I >can get the 2.5" Notebook IDE adapters. I've never seen a 385ED up close, so I can't help you there. But notebook IDE adapters are pretty cheap if you have electronics stores close by. I got 2 of them a couple years ago for something like $5 each, brackets included (in case you want to mount your old drive in your desktop machine). There are indeed PC card solutions that allow you to transfer data (and make a direct duplicate). I rented one from Bill Morrow once, mainly because I didn't have the urge to tear open my desktop machine and mess around. Contact him for more info. www.thinkpads.com - Randy From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 15:53:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA00968 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08722; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:53:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:52:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08530; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:52:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (f117.hotmail.com [207.82.251.45]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08492; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:52:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 10436 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jan 1999 20:51:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19990105205133.10435.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.176.196.109 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 05 Jan 1999 12:51:33 PST X-Originating-IP: [194.176.196.109] From: "Feathers McGraw" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 12:51:33 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 16:37:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA01599 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:37:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11972; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:37:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:36:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11796; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:36:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11769; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:36:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from 519173627worldnet ([12.76.85.154]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990105213603.GULX25716@519173627worldnet>; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 21:36:03 +0000 Reply-To: From: "Thomas Wamser" To: "'Vincent Poy'" , "'Randal Whittle'" Cc: "'TP List'" Subject: RE: Transferring Data Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:35:29 -0600 Message-ID: <000001be38f3$6dacc480$9a554c0c@519173627worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Hmmm, thanks for the input. What's the difference between LapLink and PCAnywhere? Anyways, I was wondering if assuming I bought a better notebook, can I just remove the 385ED Hard Drive and then make a sector by sector copy of the drive and will it work with the new system since I installed win98 on my own and then installed the drivers provided by IBM. If you simply copy the Hard Drive you will have problems with the hardware in your new machine. If you purchase a better laptop, chances are that it will have a different video driver, audio driver, etc... Since your Hard Drive is setup for your current hardware, chances are you will run into many problems. You are better off to only transfer data files. Program files should be re-installed to eliminate any problems. Good luck, Tom From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 17:40:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA02610 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:40:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15645; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:39:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15517; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from pgh.nauticom.net (pgh.nauticom.net [198.190.226.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15504; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:38:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomscomputer (8.np4.np.dialup.nauticom.net [209.195.145.8]) by pgh.nauticom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA13722 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:14:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001001be38fc$a1557940$a47bfea9@tomscomputer> From: "Thomas A. Jones" To: "ThinkPad" Subject: Direct X 6.0 Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:42:09 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Are there any known issues with installing Direct X 6.0 on an IBM 770X....? Tom Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 18:59:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA03744 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:59:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18748; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:58:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:57:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18529; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:57:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18508; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:57:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA27085; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:56:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 15:56:27 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: "James H. E. Maugham" cc: TP List Subject: Re: Transferring Data In-Reply-To: <199901051805.NAA10636@water.vramp.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, James H. E. Maugham wrote: > On 5 Jan 99, at 9:31, Vincent Poy wrote: > > > Actually, it seems like PCAnywhere does the same thing you > > mentioned. > > To the best of my knowledge PCAnywhere does not support cable > connections between computers, only modem or internet. Actually it does... I think the laplink parallel port cable is included with PCAnywhere. > > Hmmm, but how do I remove the drive out of the 385ED? I thought > > there were PCMCIA cards to hook up a drive too... Now I wonder where I > > can get the 2.5" Notebook IDE adapters. > > http://www.compgeeks.com/cgi-bin/prod_disp.asp?cat=Drives > > Item no. 205-1991, $6.50, Universal 2.5 inch to 3.5 inch adapter. I just got > several from them and they work great. Throw the drives in an "extra" > desktop and copy/clone drives 'til the cows come home. We find this > especially useful when setting up multiple laptops for clients who want them > _exactly_ the same. There are many places to get PCMCIA to HD adapters, > but they're a lot more than $6.50. Thanks alot for the help! Now, I just need some help with how to get the drives out of the thinkpad 385ed. > Good luck, > > James > > James H. E. Maugham, V.P. > CaptJHEM@waterw.com > Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project > http://www.libertynet.org/~share Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 19:22:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA04043 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:22:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19732; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:22:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19605; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:22:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19591; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:21:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA27228; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:20:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:20:44 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: dr0ss@ibm.net cc: Randal Whittle , TP List Subject: Re: External enclosures (was: Re: Transferring Data) In-Reply-To: <003801be38d9$bc4bde60$62ec48a6@robinson.math.hawaii.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 5 Jan 1999 dr0ss@ibm.net wrote: > > Hmmm, but how do I remove the drive out of the 385ED? I thought > >there were PCMCIA cards to hook up a drive too... Now I wonder where I > >can get the 2.5" Notebook IDE adapters. > > I just bought an H45 external drive enclosure (dual parallel port/pcmcia) from > Fry's > for $99; installed it last night, works great! (This was my second attempt at > such a thing, > the one I bought from J&R in NYC came missing parts.) Mine is for a 3.5" > drive, but they also had > one for 2.5" drives for about the same price. Too bad I don't have a car to get to Fry's since I am in San Francisco. But how fast can the PCMCIA transfer and does the card come with it? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 19:36:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA04196 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:36:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20540; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:36:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:36:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20442; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:36:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20429; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:36:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA27333; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:34:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:34:58 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Thomas Wamser cc: "'Randal Whittle'" , "'TP List'" Subject: RE: Transferring Data In-Reply-To: <000001be38f3$6dacc480$9a554c0c@519173627worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Thomas Wamser wrote: > Hmmm, thanks for the input. What's the difference between LapLink > and PCAnywhere? Anyways, I was wondering if assuming I bought a better > notebook, can I just remove the 385ED Hard Drive and then make a sector by > sector copy of the drive and will it work with the new system since I > installed win98 on my own and then installed the drivers provided by IBM. > > If you simply copy the Hard Drive you will have problems with the hardware > in your new machine. If you purchase a better laptop, chances are that it > will have a different video driver, audio driver, etc... Since your Hard > Drive is setup for your current hardware, chances are you will run into many > problems. You are better off to only transfer data files. Program files > should be re-installed to eliminate any problems. Actually, I know about the driver issue since that's how I build desktop machines and then just install the drivers for the hardware but I don't know if IBM provides the drivers separately other than having to install using their CD-ROM for the ThinkPad. > Good luck, > > > Tom Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 20:07:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA04508 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:07:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21991; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:07:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:06:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21885; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:06:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from cedar.netten.net (root@cedar.netten.net [205.244.191.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21872; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:06:30 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from default (net3-147.netten.net [206.229.193.147]) by cedar.netten.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA24697 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:06:24 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990105190549.009976e8@netten.net> X-Sender: shelby@netten.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 19:05:49 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Win 98 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi, Can someone tell me if Win 98 for my IBM 760ED Thinkpad would be proprietary or if I can just by any standard upgrade. Right now I am using Win98 beta 3. It expired 12/31/98. Thanks for any thoughts on where to purchase (just any standard software store or IBM?) Warm regards, Larose A. Wynne shelby@netten.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 20:50:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA04860 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:50:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23898; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:50:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:49:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23811; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:49:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23793; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:49:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.31.152]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990106014910.CRRM29733@dts-jl> for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:49:10 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990105204904.00b5b6c0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 20:49:04 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: RE: Transferring Data In-Reply-To: References: <000001be38f3$6dacc480$9a554c0c@519173627worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 04:34 PM 1/5/99 -0800, Vincent Poy wrote: > Actually, I know about the driver issue since that's how I build >desktop machines and then just install the drivers for the hardware but >I don't know if IBM provides the drivers separately other than having to >install using their CD-ROM for the ThinkPad. > Yeah, they do -> http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/support/thinkpad/tpopsys.html I thought you were asking about the preloaded apps earlier not the drivers themselves. Sorry. Jane From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 20:53:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA04890 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:53:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24252; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:53:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:52:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24125; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:52:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24087; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:52:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA27772; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:51:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:51:23 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Jane Loyless cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: RE: Transferring Data In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990105204904.00b5b6c0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Jane Loyless wrote: > At 04:34 PM 1/5/99 -0800, Vincent Poy wrote: > > > Actually, I know about the driver issue since that's how I build > >desktop machines and then just install the drivers for the hardware but > >I don't know if IBM provides the drivers separately other than having to > >install using their CD-ROM for the ThinkPad. > > Yeah, they do -> http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/support/thinkpad/tpopsys.html > > I thought you were asking about the preloaded apps earlier not the drivers > themselves. Sorry. Thanks... Does that section include things like IBM Update Connector and IBM ThinkPad Configurator? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 22:20:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA05641 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:20:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27866; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:19:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27751; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:19:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.binghamton.edu (mailbox.adm.binghamton.edu [128.226.10.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27730; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:19:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp.binghamton.edu (208.new-york-03-04rs.ny.dial-access.att.net [12.78.193.208]) by mail.binghamton.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA02919 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:19:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901060319.WAA02919@mail.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Ken's E-mail Client 1998 Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 22:18:29 -0500 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [TP770ED/W95] Using "scrollpoint" often crashes applications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I've had this problem since I had my 770ED. Every now and then, when I move the mouse pointer to an application and try to "scroll" (by holding the third button and pulling down on the trackpoint), the application crashes with a page fault. I'm using Windows 95 OSR2. Has anyone seen this? Is it probably related to the mouse, or is it just some other problem that so often manifests itself at that exact moment? Thanks. Ken (who is sick of his 770ED with its preinstalled OS crashing every single day) kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 22:33:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA05755 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:33:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28587; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:33:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:33:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28495; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:33:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from pgh.nauticom.net (pgh.nauticom.net [198.190.226.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28483; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:33:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomscomputer (35.tcg1.tcg.dialup.nauticom.net [209.195.138.35]) by pgh.nauticom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA24616 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:09:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000901be3925$c3c9ad60$238ac3d1@tomscomputer> From: "Thomas A. Jones" To: "ThinkPad" Subject: CNF ZIP Drive for Ultra Bay Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:36:35 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Machine: TP 770X-7AU Subject Hot swap out DVD Rom Drive from Ultra Bay & replace with CNF Zip Drive Problem: No recognition of Zip Drive after Swap Does CNF Zip Drive support Hot Swap? When I swapped it back out and replaced DVD Rom Drive, it recognized DVD properly... Any ideas..? Tom Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 22:58:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA05950 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:58:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29989; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:58:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:57:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29871; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:57:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pgh.nauticom.net (pgh.nauticom.net [198.190.226.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29857; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:57:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomscomputer (10.tcg1.tcg.dialup.nauticom.net [209.195.138.10]) by pgh.nauticom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA01953 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:33:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000501be3929$2fedab60$0a8ac3d1@tomscomputer> From: "Thomas A. Jones" To: "ThinkPad" Subject: 3D games Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:01:05 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Machine TP770X-7AU with AGP Anyone have any experience with game playing on the above model... 1. Does it handle games like "Air Warrior" etc..well? 2. Are there any overheating issues involved with intensive 3d grapics/games.. Thanks for any comments.. Tom Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 23:32:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA06308 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:32:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02593; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:32:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:31:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02350; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:31:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (root@jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02335; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:31:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from dante22.u.washington.edu (williams@dante22.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.72]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id UAA25034 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:31:27 -0800 Received: from localhost (williams@localhost) by dante22.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id UAA60656 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:31:26 -0800 Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:31:26 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Williams" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad 770ED and Adaptec 1480A. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I'm getting conflicting information about the support for Card Bus SCSI devices. The site (http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/LWIK-3TQHVV.html) says that APA-1480(A) is not supported. But then Thinkpad proven options (http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/LWIK-3TXQ8A.html) links to Adaptec and says nothing about such limitations. Any clarification? Is there a preferred option for hooking up both a scanner and a 4x CD-RW using SCSI. How about using the docking station with an internal CD-RW? How about support for Win 95/98/NT/2000? Any concerns? Thanks, John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 23:45:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA06415 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:45:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03593; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:45:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:44:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03492; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:44:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03480; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from bp ([12.77.217.102]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990106044409.OZMU25716@bp>; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 04:44:09 +0000 Message-ID: <3692EA39.15A4@worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 23:44:41 -0500 From: BirgerPetterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Thomas A. Jones" CC: ThinkPad Subject: Re: CNF ZIP Drive for Ultra Bay References: <000901be3925$c3c9ad60$238ac3d1@tomscomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Thomas A. Jones wrote: > > Machine: TP 770X-7AU > > Subject Hot swap out DVD Rom Drive from Ultra Bay & replace with CNF Zip VST Zip is hot swap OK. What does CNF say? Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 5 23:51:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA06471 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:51:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04228; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:51:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:50:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04088; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:50:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from uz.ComCAT.COM (uz.ComCAT.COM [204.170.64.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04058; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:50:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from a028.COMCAT.COM (alee@a028.COMCAT.COM [207.86.230.28]) by uz.ComCAT.COM (8.8.8/8.8.8/sol2/mh/19980701) with ESMTP; id XAA14675; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:47:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:48:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Albert C. Lee" X-Sender: alee@mercury To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: All my Ultraslim devices Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I think I have all but one of the Ultraslim Bay accessories for my Thinkpad 600E now... thought I'd give my thoughts and impressions on them: * VST Technology ZIP 100 drive Pros: 100 mb removeable ZIP media, very fast, extremely light Cons: Noisy, has a 1/8 inch lip which breaks the otherwise sleek look of the laptop, eject button is flaky under NT (mostly works, sometimes doesn't), no emergency eject * DVD-ROM drive Pros: Well... it supports DVDs (data only DVDs under NT) Cons: Laptop vibrates a little when the drive is spinning at top speed, heaviest of all the accessories * IBM Lithium Ion Ultraslim Battery Pros: Up to 7.5 hours of usage (average seems to be about 5 hours), 2.5 hours to charge up both main and slim batteries, nice rubberized feel like the rest of the laptop, ultraslim battery depletes first before the main battery, so you can swap out and use other devices if needed Cons: Must power down to remove/insert the Ultraslim battery, no separate battery LED status, adds almost as much weight as the DVD drive, only works under 600E (no 600) * Ultraslim Hard Drive Adapter Pros: Seperate HD activity LED, clever quick physical insertion and removal in and out of the adapter, rubberized feel like the laptop, very cheap, the feeling of power having almost unlimited storage Cons: No protective cover for the hard drive (hard drive snaps into the adapter but nothing covers it) * Floppy drive Pros: Works both in and out of the Thinkpad Cons: Almost obsolete, esp. with bootable CDs and multiple alternative boot options available. I never use mine. * Weight saver bezel Pros: Laptop weighs 5.4 lbs with it in, battery life is exceptional with it in (no motorized devices to spin up/down) Cons: Cheap plastic (no rubber feel), does not feel securely fit into the Ultraslim Bay. I think I'll be keeping the 2nd battery in place for a while, and possibly swapping it for the ZIP every so often. Still dreaming of a day I can hot plug all these accessories. Probably won't ever get the LS-120 drive from VST Tech. Other dreams/thoughts for the Ultraslim Bay (IBM are you listening?): * CD-RW drive * 2nd set of PCMCIA slots (looks like there's room for 2 sets) * Tape drive -Al From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 00:06:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA06600 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 00:06:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05269; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 00:05:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 00:05:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05180; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 00:05:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05163; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 00:05:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from robinson.math.hawaii.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA00398; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:05:13 -1000 Message-ID: <000801be3932$1ee7ac40$8aec48a6@robinson.math.hawaii.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Vincent Poy" Cc: "Randal Whittle" , "TP List" Subject: Re: External enclosures (was: Re: Transferring Data) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:05:00 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > Too bad I don't have a car to get to Fry's since I am in San >Francisco. But how fast can the PCMCIA transfer and does the card come >with it? Card came with mine (got the 'combo' package), and the drive seems to be adequately fast, though I won't be able to do any real testing until my 560 is repaired (right now I have the drive on a Micron that has no benchmark tools on it). Of course, the 560 might never get repaired - still no box, and I leave for England after the weekend... - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 00:37:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA06915 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 00:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07238; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 00:37:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 00:36:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07059; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 00:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07047; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 00:36:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from robinson.math.hawaii.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA00499; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:36:33 -1000 Message-ID: <005101be3936$7fd475c0$8aec48a6@robinson.math.hawaii.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" , "Jane Loyless" Subject: Re: 1410 problems, less-than-great IBM service Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:36:22 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: >Interesting - I called in yesterday, and the box came in while I was at >lunch today. Wonder if it's location dependent on how quickly the box gets >there? Probably. I now have it on authority that the boxes originate somewhere in Ohio (which is probably why IBM often uses Airborne in one direction and Fedex in the other). Here it is Tuesday night - I set up the call last Friday night - and still no box (and Airborne says they have no idea when we might get it). Tomorrow AM I get to try to convince IBM to send my machine to England when they get it repaired. Grrr. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 01:09:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA07119 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:09:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08741; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:09:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:08:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08641; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:08:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08614; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (39.p1.usr01.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.166.103]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id BAA28121; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:05:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3692FD35.4A465176@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 01:05:42 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: [TP770ED/W95] Using "scrollpoint" often crashes applications References: <199901060319.WAA02919@mail.binghamton.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ken.. my GUESS is there is a conflict with one of your applications.. both the system crashing and the mouse problem... just me guess.. :-) if its possible, or practical, can you reload windows.. ?? :-)) also, be sure your bios is up to date... Ken wrote: > I've had this problem since I had my 770ED. Every now and then, when I > move the mouse pointer to an application and try to "scroll" (by holding > the third button and pulling down on the trackpoint), the application > crashes with a page fault. > > I'm using Windows 95 OSR2. > > Has anyone seen this? Is it probably related to the mouse, or is it just > some other problem that so often manifests itself at that exact moment? > > Thanks. > > Ken (who is sick of his 770ED with its preinstalled OS crashing every > single day) > kenzo@free-music.com -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 01:15:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA07209 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:15:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09415; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:15:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09319; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:15:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09300; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:14:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-227-066.usc.edu [128.125.227.66]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id WAA21580; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:14:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990105221102.00b18160@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 22:14:41 -0800 To: Bill Morrow , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: [TP770ED/W95] Using "scrollpoint" often crashes applications In-Reply-To: <3692FD35.4A465176@icanect.net> References: <199901060319.WAA02919@mail.binghamton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 01:05 AM 1/6/99 -0500, you wrote: >my GUESS is there is a conflict with one of your applications.. >both the system crashing and the mouse problem... >just me guess.. :-) > >if its possible, or practical, can you reload windows.. ?? :-)) >also, be sure your bios is up to date... You laugh, Bill, but that solved it for me! A couple of weeks ago I did a full, clean, install of Win 98. Prior to that, I had Win 95 with all sorts of baggage in it. When I first got the 600 (after I loaded it down with all sorts of that baggage...really sloppy...copied DLL files from old installations just because I didn't want to be bothered putting them in judiciously or re-installing software properly), the scrolling feature on the TrackPoint crashed software left & right--particularly Netscape Navigator. I gave up on it--disabled the 3rd button and didn't use the scrolling features. Now that I've done a clean, complete re-install of the OS, I tried using it again. It works flawlessly in Netscape, Word, Excel...and others. Don't know what the problem was before, but your suggestion...well, its actually workable! - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 01:33:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA07309 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:33:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10412; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:33:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:32:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10325; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:32:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10313; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-227-066.usc.edu [128.125.227.66]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id WAA23830; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:32:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990105221532.00b1b5d0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 22:32:11 -0800 To: "Albert C. Lee" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: All my Ultraslim devices In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:48 PM 1/5/99 -0500, you wrote: >I think I have all but one of the Ultraslim Bay accessories for my >Thinkpad 600E now... thought I'd give my thoughts and impressions on them: > >* VST Technology ZIP 100 drive >Pros: 100 mb removeable ZIP media, very fast, extremely light >Cons: Noisy, has a 1/8 inch lip which breaks the otherwise sleek look of >the laptop, eject button is flaky under NT (mostly works, sometimes >doesn't), no emergency eject Bzzt! The emergency eject is a small hole *in* the eject button. You'll need a paper clip or somesuch, but its there. I also don't know what you're speaking about with respect to noise. Its not as quiet as the CD, but its quieter than the external SCSI Zip I have at my desktop. Agreed on the 1/8 lip. If not for that, it would look as sleek as the CD drive. Such a shame they didn't pay attention to that! >* Floppy drive >Pros: Works both in and out of the Thinkpad >Cons: Almost obsolete, esp. with bootable CDs and multiple alternative >boot options available. I never use mine. ...would be nice if IBM made a TP BIOS flash update that allowed booting >from the Zip drive. VST insists their drive could do it, but IBM has to support it in the BIOS. I think I could go without a floppy entirely if they did that. >* Weight saver bezel >Pros: Laptop weighs 5.4 lbs with it in, battery life is exceptional with Eh? My 600 is 4.9 (4.99? Whatever it is, its less than 5 Lbs.) with the bezel in. I know you have the 600E, but is it heavier than the original 600? >it in (no motorized devices to spin up/down) >Cons: Cheap plastic (no rubber feel), does not feel securely fit into the >Ultraslim Bay. Mine fits quite securely. I wonder if yours has a defect? >Other dreams/thoughts for the Ultraslim Bay (IBM are you listening?): >* CD-RW drive That won't happen any time soon. CD-R/RW drives require a higher-powered laser to burn those discs, which also means a heavier and larger laser assembly. I'm sure in time they'll find a way to make that lighter, but currently there's no way they're going to get that laser assembly in a device as slim as the Ultrabay. Furthermore, CD-R/RW drives are considerably lower in the reliability category. Those that have or use them a lot (for burning discs) always have a "regular" CD drive for non-burning duties. A standard CD drive typically has a 150,000 to 200,000 hour MTBF rating, whereas even the best CD-R/RW drives range from 50,000 to 75,000 hours. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 01:40:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA07381 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:40:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10919; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:40:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:39:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10819; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:39:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10806; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:39:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-227-066.usc.edu [128.125.227.66]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id WAA24568; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:39:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990105223342.00b1b870@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 22:39:29 -0800 To: "Thomas A. Jones" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: CNF ZIP Drive for Ultra Bay In-Reply-To: <000901be3925$c3c9ad60$238ac3d1@tomscomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:36 PM 1/5/99 -0500, you wrote: >Machine: TP 770X-7AU > >Subject Hot swap out DVD Rom Drive from Ultra Bay & replace with CNF Zip >Drive > >Problem: No recognition of Zip Drive after Swap > >Does CNF Zip Drive support Hot Swap? I don't know about the CNF, but the VST Zip drive specifically says you can't hotswap it--you have to boot with it for it to work. >When I swapped it back out and replaced DVD Rom Drive, it recognized DVD >properly... I suspect much of this has to do with drive letter assignments. A CD (and I think a DVD) exists sort of "outside" the OS in a sense. That's one of the reasons you can set the drive letter to whatever you want (to avoid having the CD end up changing letters all the time, I set the drive letter up the alphabet a little bit--"K" seems to work fine for me. That way if I suddenly add a drive (a new partition, a Zip, or plug in a flash card) it doesn't screw around with my CD drive letter assignment. My desktop is awfully close to that letter assignment though. I have physical/logical drives that go up through "G" there, and then when I turn on the Zip & SyJet drives...the SyJet is at "I", so I only have one more drive letter's worth of room before hitting that "K" on the CD! At any rate, the Zip is treated very much like a "normal" drive (as is just about everything but CD's) and therefore needs to be "seen" at boot time to get its drive letter assignment. A CD drive has more flexibility, and hence can be hot-swapped. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 01:54:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA07477 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:54:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11727; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:54:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:53:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11633; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.85]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11615; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:53:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from tnote (1Cust213.tnt3.dfw5.da.uu.net [153.36.194.213]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA28950 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:53:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by tnote with Microsoft Mail id <01BE3906.BD4427A0@tnote>; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:54:32 -0700 Message-ID: <01BE3906.BD4427A0@tnote> From: Teresa Selling To: TP List Subject: Trouble with DVD drive and game CDs. Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:53:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone else had trouble with reading standard cdroms in the DVD = drive? I first had a problem with the demo CD that came with PCGamer. = Ok, I wrote that off as a cheap cd job on the part of the magazine. But = just tried all the cd's that came in the Sierra's Quest Series Vol One. = Includes recent KingsQuest, SpaceQuest, PoliceQuest games. The dvd = drive just keeps trying to access the drive without ever succeeding. I = eventually CAD and EndTask. Other CDs load ok (MS Office 97). =20 I had to switch to Win95 because of no drivers/apps for spider wireless = modem and GPS receivers. But I get lockup's all the time with Win95 and = everytime it does ScanDisk on recovery from a lockup, a few more hundred = KB are corrupted. I used to reboot OS/2 maybe once a week or sometimes = once a month (with no disk corruption) ... now I am forced to reboot at = least daily with Win95... very annoying. I was hoping I'd at least get = to load a few games with Win95 since thats not OS/2's strong suit but = haven't had much luck to date. Hope someone has some suggestions. Machine is 770E with DVD & Mpeg2 card with Win95. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 02:08:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA07739 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:08:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12612; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:08:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:08:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12494; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12482; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:07:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (39.p1.usr01.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.166.103]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA10239; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:05:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36930B1C.7A6257D6@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 02:05:00 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jane Loyless CC: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Use 701 FDD on 600? References: <3.0.1.32.19990104215439.009434a0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: AND, the cable for the external floppy for a 770 is $80~ BUT, the same cable for a 560 is about $16~ it IS shorter, but the pinout is the same.. Jane Loyless wrote: > At 12:47 PM 1/3/99 -0500, I wrote: > > >Does anyone know if there's a cable available that will let me use the 701 > >floppy drive with a 600? > > > > In case there's anyone else that has one of the 701 floppy drives and wants > to use it with their 600, I got an answer from IBM ESS. They said that the > part number of the cable I need is 83H6276 (FRU 12J0432). Expensive little > sucker - it's over $60. -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 02:11:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA07757 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:11:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13060; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:10:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12975; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:10:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12963; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:10:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (39.p1.usr01.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.166.103]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA16417; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:07:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36930BB3.2B9E4D46@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 02:07:31 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eyvind Spangen CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP755CD - backlight doesn't work References: <3695ff62.10989472@mail.c2i.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: ES... perhaps it is the HV card.. either in the top lid on in the base.. best guess its in the top.. and it will be difficult to find JUST THAT part, i think.. best idea is find a used 755CE or CD with 'other' problems and swap the display.. Eyvind Spangen wrote: > My TP755CD has got a "annoying" error.. > The flourescent tube that is supposed to light up the LCD from the > back, doesn't work. The previous owner tried changing the tube, but > that didn't fix it. What is the problem, what can be done, and how > expensive? The LCD itself is ok, if I point my desk light very close > to it, I see the picture. But as it is now, I have to use an external > display. > > The model is 9545-CDX with 10.4" TFT screen. > > ES -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 02:14:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA07783 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13650; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:14:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:13:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13451; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13439; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:13:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (39.p1.usr01.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.166.103]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA25488; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:11:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36930C84.5FBFD6D1@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 02:11:00 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jane Loyless CC: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Use 701 FDD on 600? References: <3.0.1.32.19990103124700.00a11470@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Jane.. MOST likely, the 560 or 770 cable will work.. Jane Loyless wrote: > Does anyone know if there's a cable available that will let me use the 701 > floppy drive with a 600? > > Thanks - Jane -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 02:19:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA07813 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:19:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14515; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:19:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:17:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14082; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:17:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14061; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:17:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (39.p1.usr01.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.166.103]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA05448; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:13:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36930D0F.9140D3AF@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 02:13:19 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Geary CC: "Albert C. Lee" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: HDD adapter and 128mb RAM References: <002501be3742$23da9790$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Mike.. thanks.. :-) where do you want the limo sent..?? uhh, 128meg parts WERE still high the last time i checked.. $400+ always use major brand memory..! Michael Geary wrote: > > What's the going rate these days for the 128mb RAM chip for the 600E? > > Go to shopper.com, search for "thinkpad 600 128mb". (Don't type the quotes.) > > > Also, where can I find the HDD adapter to allow me to slide a second > > HD into the Ultraslim Bay of my 600E? Is it expensive? > > Go to shopper.com, search for "ultraslimbay hdd adapter". > > Of the vendors listed on those products, Hardware Street and CMPExpress both > have good prices and reputation. > > There's also a good chance Bill Morrow at www.thinkpads.com has these items, > and he's great to deal with. > > -Mike -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 02:20:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA07818 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:20:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14643; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:19:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:17:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14106; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:17:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14072; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:17:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (39.p1.usr01.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.166.103]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.8/ICA3.2) with ESMTP id CAA10806; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 02:14:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36930D66.7DF4607E@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 02:14:46 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: delgallo@jps.net CC: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Source for a Multiport for a 701C References: <368FBD13.BD3B8111@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: They are and never were 'cheap'.. i'm not sure IBM still has these.. delgallo@jps.net wrote: > I recently been given a 701C and I'm looking for a source other than IBM > for the Multiport port replicator that originally shipped with it. -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 04:59:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA09000 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 04:59:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22271; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 04:59:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 04:58:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22081; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 04:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from grm.se (IDENT:root@kajsa.grm.se [194.218.145.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22057; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 04:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from grm.se (jagvillha.ibk.se [195.100.190.34]) by grm.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08386; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 10:57:59 +0100 Message-ID: <36933364.6AA7E639@grm.se> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 10:56:53 +0100 From: Kristian Madsen Reply-To: kgm@grm.se X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP755CD - backlight doesn't work References: <3695ff62.10989472@mail.c2i.net> <36930BB3.2B9E4D46@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id EAA22271 Actually, I ordered this part for a 360c (separately!) before christmas, but it turned out not to be my particular problem... (Damn, I swapped out every part in my 360c with the corresponding in my 360cse, and the 360c display even lit up when connected to the 360cse=B4s inverter card :( Any ideas anyone? I think I swapped the hinge cable as well, but I am not entirely sure about that, and I do tend to use my 360cse, so I=B4d prefer not having to rip it up again.) So, what I wanted to say is that I have a spare inverter card, although for a 360c, and I would gladly pass it on -- in exchange for shipping perchance? I live in Sweden, but the part is very smallish, and should fit an ordinary air mail letter.=20 I=B4ll post the FRU part number privately, let me know if you want/need the card, I=B4d hate to see it waste away in a drawer. Regards, Kristian Madsen mailto://kgm@grm.se Bill Morrow wrote: >=20 > ES... >=20 > perhaps it is the HV card.. > either in the top lid on in the base.. > best guess its in the top.. and it will be difficult to find JUST THAT > part, i think.. >=20 > best idea is find a used 755CE or CD with 'other' problems and swap the > display.. >=20 > Eyvind Spangen wrote: >=20 > > My TP755CD has got a "annoying" error.. > > The flourescent tube that is supposed to light up the LCD from the > > back, doesn't work. The previous owner tried changing the tube, but > > that didn't fix it. What is the problem, what can be done, and how > > expensive? The LCD itself is ok, if I point my desk light very close > > to it, I see the picture. But as it is now, I have to use an external > > display. > > > > The model is 9545-CDX with 10.4" TFT screen. > > > > ES >=20 > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... >=20 > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 07:38:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA10073 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:38:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA03448; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:38:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:37:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA03300; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:37:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA03278; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:37:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:36:45 -0500 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from rbell-home (hil-qbu-ptg-vty17.as.wcom.net [206.175.103.17]) by hil-img-11.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id HAA15108; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:36:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Rob Bell" To: , Subject: RE: Win 98 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 06:40:09 -0600 Message-ID: <000001be3971$b2573560$1167afce@rbell-home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990105190549.009976e8@netten.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: You can buy the standard Win98 upgrade from any place that sells it. Expect to pay about $89 for the upgrade version. You will then need to download the appropriate drivers from the IBM web site for video, audio, PCMCIA, power management, etc. These are installed after the Win98 upgrade. Check here for more details from IBM: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/LWIK-3VJLL8.html I don't know if the Win93 beta would be counted as valid upgrade product (the setup will check for a valid license of Windows before installing). You might need your original Win95 disks, CD, or system restore CD. Good luck, Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: shelby@netten.net [mailto:shelby@netten.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 7:06 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Win 98 > > > Hi, Can someone tell me if Win 98 for my IBM 760ED Thinkpad would be > proprietary or if I can just by any standard upgrade. Right now I am using > Win98 beta 3. It expired 12/31/98. > > Thanks for any thoughts on where to purchase (just any standard software > store or IBM?) > > Warm regards, > > Larose A. Wynne > shelby@netten.net > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 07:42:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA10111 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:42:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA03838; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:42:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:42:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA03751; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:42:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (cave@cavecreations.com [192.41.27.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA03739; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:41:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id FAA22981; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 05:41:55 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 05:41:55 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199901061241.FAA22981@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: rwhittle@usa.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: All my Ultraslim devices List-Unsubscribe: (stuff about ZIP deleted) > I also don't know what you're speaking about with respect to noise. It's that loud fast spin-up of the ZIP drive... and when it goes to sleep, it's almost like a *honk*, and a soft click. When it's operating, it's noise is no worse than any other ZIP drive. My SCSI Zip is probably maybe a touch quieter... but my CNF ZIP for my old Toshiba laptop was significantly quieter. > Eh? My 600 is 4.9 (4.99? Whatever it is, its less than 5 Lbs.) > with the bezel in. Maybe it is 4.9 lbs... I used the nearest catalog to me, and it said something like 5.4 lbs with included weight saver bezel, but I've never seen a catalog that got all the specs right anyway. :) > Mine fits quite securely. I wonder if yours has a defect? Well, it has no risk of falling out, but it feels kind of cheap, and you can shift it around in the space a little bit. Maybe it is a defect... although I think that with the new battery, I'm probably not going to be using it anymore. -Al -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 09:28:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA10993 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:28:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10419; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:28:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:27:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10285; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:27:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10271; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:27:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:26:45 -0500 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by dub-img-ims-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id JAA14551 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:25:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36937280.D71FAAE0@csc.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 08:26:08 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad List Subject: Fwd: [delivery failure to jonc@m1.sprynet.com] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------C79DE53540E70659965D3CAB" List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C79DE53540E70659965D3CAB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone else get a failed mail message back from SpryNet for every message sent to the ThinkPad list? This has happened to me for the last couple of weeks and it gets very annoying. The message states that "delivery failed to jonc@ml.sprynet.com because the mailbox is full". Can the list owner unsubscribe this person to avoid the problem? Thanks, Rob rob_bell@csi.com --------------C79DE53540E70659965D3CAB Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from mercury.csc.com by csc.com via smtpd with smtp id for ; Wed, 6 Jan 99 07:38 EST (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.9 built 21-apr-97) Received: from m1.sprynet.com ([165.121.1.97]) by mercury.csc.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 0zxsE5-0006qa-00 for rbell1@csc.com; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:38:17 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA11701; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 04:38:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 04:38:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901061238.EAA11701@m1.sprynet.com> To: rbell1@csc.com References: <000001be3971$b2573560$1167afce@rbell-home> In-Reply-To: <000001be3971$b2573560$1167afce@rbell-home> X-Loop: postmaster@sprynet.com From: Interserv Operations Subject: Re: RE: Win 98 [delivery failure to jonc@m1.sprynet.com] X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 The message that you sent to the above recipient was not delivered. All mail sent to this account will continue to be returned until the recipient has removed enough mail to lower the mailbox size below the system mailbox limit. -- Sprynet Network Operations Center Postmaster@sprynet.com 2001 6th Ave. Suite 3025B noc@interserv.net Seattle, WA. 95121 CompuServe/Internet Division -----[ Orginal mail message follows ]------------- > > You can buy the standard Win98 upgrade from any place that sells it. Expect > to pay about $89 for the upgrade version. You will then need to download > the appropriate drivers from the IBM web site for video, audio, PCMCIA, > power management, etc. These are installed after the Win98 upgrade. Check > here for more details from IBM: > http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/LWIK-3VJLL8.html > > I don't know if the Win93 beta would be counted as valid upgrade product > (the setup will check for a valid license of Windows before installing). > You might need your original Win95 disks, CD, or system restore CD. > > Good luck, > Rob > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: shelby@netten.net [mailto:shelby@netten.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 7:06 PM > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Win 98 > > > > > > Hi, Can someone tell me if Win 98 for my IBM 760ED Thinkpad would be > > proprietary or if I can just by any standard upgrade. Right now I am using > > Win98 beta 3. It expired 12/31/98. > > > > Thanks for any thoughts on where to purchase (just any standard software > > store or IBM?) > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Larose A. Wynne > > shelby@netten.net > > > > > --------------C79DE53540E70659965D3CAB-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 09:38:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA11128 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:38:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11272; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:38:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:37:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11142; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:37:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11119; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:37:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:37:05 -0500 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by dub-img-ims-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id JAA16190 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:36:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <369374F6.F44DAD8C@csc.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 08:36:38 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad List Subject: NT Shutdown Problem on 770 References: <199812312329.SAA10516@water.vramp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: My 770 recently began beeping at me during shutdown from NT4. It is a single long beep that happens between the time the 'writing unsaved data to disk' message and the 'it is now safe to shut off your PC' message. The time period required to shut down is also noticeably longer during this phase now too. The only thing I changed prior to this happening was to upgrade my McAfee AntiVirus from 3.20 to 4.02. Has anyone else seen this problem? Is anyone else using McAfee 4.02 on a ThinkPad under NT? Could the new McAfee have corrupted the CardWizard drivers or other ThinkPad-specific drivers? Everything seems to function OK. Thanks for any suggestions! Rob rob_bell@csi.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 10:19:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA11542 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 10:19:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13988; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 10:19:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 10:18:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13887; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 10:18:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13867; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 10:18:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from 41.new-york-11-12rs.ny.dial-access.att.net ([12.78.196.41]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990106151810.KHSX29733@41.new-york-11-12rs.ny.dial-access.att.net> for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:18:10 +0000 From: r.lawrence@worldnet.att.net (Robert Lawrence) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: [770ED]: Are bezels available for covering battery bay and UltraBay II? Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 15:18:45 GMT Message-ID: <36947d12.3667997@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: To save weight, I would like to carry around my 770ED without the battery and DVD drive when I know I won't be using them, but this would leave the battery bay and the UltraBay II wide open. Are bezels available for covering these holes? None came with my 770ED, but I have seen references in this group to "weight-saving bezels". Are these what I need, and if so, where can they be obtained? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 11:53:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA12848 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:53:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20235; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:50:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19990; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:50:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAD (smtp4.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19972; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:50:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:50:01 -0500 Sender: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us Received: from atreyu (sfr-pci-pqu-vty333.as.wcom.net [209.154.171.77]) by hil-img-ims-5.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id LAA16871 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:49:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990106084911.008b0330@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 08:49:11 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Ron Heiby Subject: Re: [770ED]: Are bezels available for covering battery bay and UltraBay II? In-Reply-To: <36947d12.3667997@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 03:18 PM 1/6/99 GMT, Robert Lawrence wrote: >To save weight, I would like to carry around my 770ED without the >battery and DVD drive when I know I won't be using them, My 770ED came with a strange rubber flap that I understand is supposed to fit into the hole left by the removal of the DVD drive. I haven't heard of such a thing for the other side. BTW, Why would you want to carry around your 770ED without the battery? This implies that you are either carrying around the AC adapter, or have AC adapters strategically located everywhere you might want to use the 770ED. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers iQA/AwUBNpOUAGasl5Jijs7SEQKY7gCfeJAJcEAk5eoYlTOYxUas4DyBZlgAnjJ8 Xz2y+QQ2CYvW6DXuZIo8tVW/ =/nPc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 12:35:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA13590 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:35:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23603; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:35:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:33:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23384; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:33:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23370; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:33:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad (slip-32-100-39-27.nj.us.ibm.net [32.100.39.27]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA68494; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 17:33:19 GMT Message-ID: <003901be399a$a5bc9920$1b276420@thinkpad> From: "Don" To: , "Ron Heiby" Subject: Re: [770ED]: Are bezels available for covering battery bay and UltraBay II? Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:33:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: There is a bezel available for the UltraBay. The rubber cover that comes with the Thinkpads are a cover for the connection port on the external FDD not the bay itself. I have been looking for a cover for the battery cover as well. My concern is that when I use the system for extended periods on AC power the battery may suffer or get overheated. Any recommendations whether I should leave the battery in place during these times or should I remove it? >At 03:18 PM 1/6/99 GMT, Robert Lawrence wrote: >>To save weight, I would like to carry around my 770ED without the >>battery and DVD drive when I know I won't be using them, > >My 770ED came with a strange rubber flap that I understand is supposed to fit >into the hole left by the removal of the DVD drive. I haven't heard of such a >thing for the other side. > >BTW, Why would you want to carry around your 770ED without the battery? This >implies that you are either carrying around the AC adapter, or have AC >adapters strategically located everywhere you might want to use the 770ED. > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 >Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers > >iQA/AwUBNpOUAGasl5Jijs7SEQKY7gCfeJAJcEAk5eoYlTOYxUas4DyBZlgAnjJ8 >Xz2y+QQ2CYvW6DXuZIo8tVW/ >=/nPc >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >-- >Ron. > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 12:39:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA13653 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:39:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24123; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:38:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23995; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:38:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from chas.org (surf4011.jacksonville.net [24.129.48.211]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23983; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:38:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from home ([chas.org]) by 127.0.0.1 ( IA Mail Server Version: 02.2.0 Build: 02036 ) ) ; 06 Jan 99 17:37:46 UT Message-Id: <4.1.19990106123210.00947620@207.98.192.83> X-Sender: cclarke@207.98.192.83 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 12:37:43 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Charles Clarke Subject: Re: Transferring Data In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: To set the record straight, pcANYWHERE transfers via just about any type of cable. I prefer it to the older Laplink I have used. YMMV. >>> LapLink is a PC to PC file transfer program with various automation >>> capabilities. It works over cables, Ethernet, Modem (direct or via >>> Internet)...and it also happens to have the capability to control a remote >>> PC as well--and it does so quite fabulously. >>> >>> PCAnywhere, to my knowledge, only has the remote control capability, and >>> from what I understand, it doesn't do it as well as LapLink. >> >> Actually, it seems like PCAnywhere does the same thing you >>mentioned. > > I don't know that it does the direct cable transfers--I think its designed >to work only over remote connections (modem). > > Regardless, LapLink has beaten the pants off of PCAnywhere in every review >I've seen, and in every category. I used PCAnywhere in an old, previous >version, and hated it. LapLink 7.5 (admittedly in its current, new >version) is wonderful and simple. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 13:17:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA14251 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:17:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26881; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:17:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:15:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26546; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:15:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26526; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:15:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (root@localhost) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14776 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:15:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from dts-jl (DTS_JL.uhc.com [10.145.181.71]) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA14734 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:15:16 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990106131503.00b64100@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 13:15:03 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Leaving battery in? Was "Are bezels available...?" In-Reply-To: <003901be399a$a5bc9920$1b276420@thinkpad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:33 PM 1/6/99 -0500, "Don" wrote: >I have been looking for a cover for the battery cover as well. My concern is >that when I use the system for extended periods on AC power the battery may >suffer or get overheated. Any recommendations whether I should leave the >battery in place during these times or should I remove it? > I always leave it in. It serves as a UPS. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 13:17:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA14261 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26923; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:17:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:16:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26669; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:16:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from docws002.shl.com (docws002.shl.com [159.249.56.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26629; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:16:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com (ottmsooc01.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.24]) by docws002.shl.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA03273; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:34:47 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199901061834.LAA03273@docws002.shl.com> Received: by ottmsooc01.ooc.shl.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:14:36 -0500 From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: TP List Cc: Vincent Poy , Randal Whittle Subject: RE: Transferring Data Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:16:25 -0500 Importance: low X-Priority: 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Folks, We've had good experience with Ghost for making a disk image (you need a backup tape or JAZ or other big media). See: http://www.idg.net/idg_frames/english/content.cgi?vc=docid_9-64660.html It will also span media and compress. You can download a demo copy from http://www.innovativesoftware.com./ghost/nf_downloadform.htm Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect Ottawa Global Delivery Centre, SHL Systemhouse an MCI WorldCom Company :^*+1 613 236-6604x5539 fax:232-5182:^* *^} ttrottier@shl.com http://www.shl.com *^} *:)50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada*:) ~Questions answered, answers questioned~ ---------- From: Randal Whittle [SMTP:rwhittle@usa.net] Sent: 1999 January 05 - Tuesday 11:23 To: Vincent Poy; TP List Subject: Re: Transferring Data At 12:35 AM 1/5/99 -0800, you wrote: > Hmmm, thanks for the input. What's the difference between LapLink >and PCAnywhere? LapLink is a PC to PC file transfer program with various automation capabilities. It works over cables, Ethernet, Modem (direct or via Internet)...and it also happens to have the capability to control a remote PC as well--and it does so quite fabulously. PCAnywhere, to my knowledge, only has the remote control capability, and from what I understand, it doesn't do it as well as LapLink. > Anyways, I was wondering if assuming I bought a better >notebook, can I just remove the 385ED Hard Drive and then make a sector by >sector copy of the drive and will it work with the new system since I >installed win98 on my own and then installed the drivers provided by IBM. If you have an adapter (two of them, I guess) and a desktop machine to do it with, Powerquest's "Drive Copy" will likely to the job for you in 20 minutes flat, drive installation included. - Randy From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 13:39:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA14681 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:39:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29366; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:39:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:38:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29248; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:38:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29229; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:38:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03231; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 10:37:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 10:37:34 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: "TROTTIER, Tom" cc: TP List , Randal Whittle Subject: RE: Transferring Data In-Reply-To: <199901061834.LAA03273@docws002.shl.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, TROTTIER, Tom wrote: > Folks, > We've had good experience with Ghost for making a disk image (you need a > backup tape or JAZ or other big media). See: > http://www.idg.net/idg_frames/english/content.cgi?vc=docid_9-64660.html > > > It will also span media and compress. > > You can download a demo copy from > http://www.innovativesoftware.com./ghost/nf_downloadform.htm > Will it work across multiple CD-R's or CD-RW's? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 14:17:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA15206 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:17:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01813; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:17:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:16:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01694; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01679; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:16:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-030.usc.edu [128.125.223.30]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id LAA17472; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:16:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990106110710.00a0a530@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 11:13:48 -0800 To: Jane Loyless , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Leaving battery in? Was "Are bezels available...?" In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990106131503.00b64100@pop.mindspring.com> References: <003901be399a$a5bc9920$1b276420@thinkpad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 01:15 PM 1/6/99 -0500, you wrote: >At 12:33 PM 1/6/99 -0500, "Don" wrote: > >>I have been looking for a cover for the battery cover as well. My concern is >>that when I use the system for extended periods on AC power the battery may >>suffer or get overheated. Any recommendations whether I should leave the >>battery in place during these times or should I remove it? >> > >I always leave it in. It serves as a UPS. Precisely. In the old days (my 750C which had one of them newfangled NiMH batteries), leaving your TP plugged in with the battery inside spelled doom for your battery. Reason? NiMH batteries tend to drain quickly while sitting on the shelf (not in use). It didn't take more than a few hours (less than a day, at least) for a 100% charged NiMH battery to drop to 90%. At about that point, the battery charger would kick in, charging it up to 100% again. Needless to say, this constant discharge/charge cycle destroyed batteries in a matter of months when they should have lasted a couple of years. Ask John Kim--I think it happened to him. It served to significantly reduce the life of my battery too. It collectively took us a while to figure out what was going on, and to either remove the battery while the machine sat on AC for more than a day, or simply *not* leave it plugged in while it sat. Regarding the battery as UPS...I was in school when I had the 750C, but I also had a desktop machine. I and a schoolmate were working on a very important project that was going to be due very soon. I was in the back room on the desktop machine, her in the living room using my 750C. We had a blackout. For me, the damage was painful, but only about 10 minutes worth of work was lost (recreating it was no fun, but at least I had *saved* everything about 10 minutes before the power went out). My friend? She hadn't saved anything since she had started. She would have lost *hours* of work on that computer, but for the battery in the 750C! WHEW!!! She learned a crucial lesson that day... - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 14:27:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA15351 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:27:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02725; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:27:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:26:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02599; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:26:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from opus.liveworld.com (opus.liveworld.com [205.216.163.172]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02584; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:26:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6692 invoked from network); 06 Jan 1999 11:26:11 PST Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 06 Jan 1999 11:26:11 PST Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:26:11 -0800 (PST) From: Valerie Delane X-Sender: valerie@opus.liveworld.com To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: [tp560x] ibm etherjet pcmcia card w/ linux Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: hi, i have been trying off and on for a couple of months to get my thinkpad 560x pcmcia ibm etherjet card to work under linux. the versions are redhat 5.1 (aka 2.0.34), pcmcia-cs 3.06, and danilo beuche's unversioned etherjet driver overlay from ftp://sunsite.unc.edu. as far as i can tell, i have everything compiled and configured correctly, but i run into a wall during the ethernet autonegotiation phase that prevents the card from actually coming up. the dmesg output is: cs89x0.c 0.4 1997/11/12 17:03:28 (Danilo Beuche) cs89x0_attach() cs89x0_event(4) cs89x0_config(0x00095de0) cs89x0_cs:found a CS8920M Rev. F loading device 'eth0'... cs89x0 device loaded cs89x0_open('eth0') cs89x0_reset('eth0') cs89x0_cs: looped 1000 times for autoneg ready eth0: autonegotiation did not complete successfully eth0: maybe cable problem or transceiver mismatch cs89x0_reset('eth0') done cs89x0:AutoNegST = 0x801e cs89x0_open('eth0') done eth0: Multicast on cs89x0 for 1 addrs NYI ... as far as general pcmcia configuration goes, i include ports 0x100-0x4ff and 0x1000-0x17ff, exclude ports 0x230-0x233, include memory 0xc0000-0xfffff and 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff, and exclude irqs 4, 5, 7, 9. the pcmcia manager seems healthy. i know that the hardware and network are ok because they work under windoze. i have scoured the net for any clue but was not successful. neither the cs89 driver author nor the folks on have responded to my queries. i read a bit of the cs89 driver code, but it is beyond my expertise. what should i try next, please? best regards, --v valerie at savina dot com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 14:43:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA15540 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:43:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03967; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:42:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:42:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03841; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pgh.nauticom.net (pgh.nauticom.net [198.190.226.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03829; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:41:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomscomputer (207.np16.np.dialup.nauticom.net [209.195.137.207]) by pgh.nauticom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA26048 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:17:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001101be39ad$18473d80$ffb1fea9@tomscomputer> From: "Thomas A. Jones" To: "ThinkPad" Subject: Fw: Zip Drive for Thinkpad 770X Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:45:11 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Response from CNF on Zip Drive question as to whether swappable or not...read below....hope this is informative to others on this mailing list for future reference.. -----Original Message----- From: Lsanfilippo To: 'taj@nauticom.net' Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 1:37 PM Subject: RE: Zip Drive for Thinkpad 770X >Yes, the zip needs to be present during the boot-up in >order for it to be recognized properly. This is due to the >fact that our zip is not hot swapable. Any other ?'s just >let me know. > >Luke Sanfilippo >CNF Technical Support >602.718.4160 > >---------- >From: Thomas A. Jones[SMTP:taj@nauticom.net] >Reply To: taj@nauticom.net >Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 6:24 AM >To: lukesan@cnfinc.com >Subject: Zip Drive for Thinkpad 770X > >I purchased a Zip drive for the IBM ThinkPad 770. Works fine except one >thing...if I have another device in the ultra bay, and hot swap that device >out & put the Zip Drive in...the Zip Drive will not be recognized....is that >proper? Does one need the Zip Drive in the ultra bay prior to booting up to >be recognized? If so, that explains why it will not be recognized when being >hot swapped into the ultra bay... > >Thanks for any clarification on this.. > >Tom Jones >Taj@nauticom.net > > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 17:30:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA17436 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 17:30:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12821; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 17:27:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 17:26:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12682; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 17:26:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from cedar.netten.net (root@cedar.netten.net [205.244.191.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12667; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 17:26:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from netten.net (net2-56.netten.net [206.229.193.56]) by cedar.netten.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA25195 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 16:26:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3693E7BB.84A8BF19@netten.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 16:46:22 -0600 From: Mark Beadle Reply-To: mrbeadle@netten.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 18:41:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA18344 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 18:41:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15660; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 18:39:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 18:38:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15533; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 18:38:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from angel.algonet.se (angel.algonet.se [194.213.74.112]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15521; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 18:38:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19685 invoked from network); 7 Jan 1999 00:38:28 +0100 Received: from sdu147-77.ppp.algonet.se (HELO helsod) (195.163.77.147) by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 7 Jan 1999 00:38:28 +0100 Message-ID: <009d01be39cd$561ef1a0$934da3c3@helsod> From: "Peter Soderholm" To: Subject: Internal Zip speed ?? Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 00:36:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: About the ultrabay internal zip drive. What speeds do you get on those = as compared to the=20 internal HD. I have the paralell port variant and its pretty slow, but = very convenient for moving data=20 to and from differnet computers and backup, but even though its possible = to run applications directly from the zip drive its to slow to actually be usefull. You who have the ultrabay internal zip can you just put a bunch of = applications (oh well 1 or two per disk with todays software) and just = run them from the disk without transfering to the HD. This might be = something to warrant a purchase of one of these units. It would be greater even if you could boot off = the zip, but i guess thats impossible. Then one could experiment away with odd flawors of Linux and openstep BeOS, or whatever = they come up with next.... (Im afraid the coolness factor of an internal zip drive alone doesnt = motivate me enough when the price is > several 100 $ :-) Whats your exerienses/thoghts ? Peter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 19:03:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA18567 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16750; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:01:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:00:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16645; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:00:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16633; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:00:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-011.usc.edu [128.125.224.11]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id QAA21350; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 16:00:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990106154632.00b67e50@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 16:00:11 -0800 To: "Peter Soderholm" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Internal Zip speed ?? In-Reply-To: <009d01be39cd$561ef1a0$934da3c3@helsod> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:36 AM 1/7/99 +0100, you wrote: >About the ultrabay internal zip drive. What speeds do you get on those as >compared to the >internal HD. I have the paralell port variant and its pretty slow, but very In short: Its a lot faster than the parallel port version. Have you ever used the SCSI version of the Zip on a machine? If you have, you know the speed difference is like night and day. This internal zip is no less (pardon the pun) zippy than the SCSI version I have at my desktop. No, don't expect it to be HD speed, but I would find it compareable to a CD-ROM at about...oh...8x speed. Maybe 12x. Don't quote me. :-) I'm sure there are data transfer rate specs somewhere for the Zip that will allow you a more exact comparison. But personally, I find 12X speed in a CD Drive to be perfectly adequate. My TP 600 CD is 20x or 24x (I guess its more like 12 - 24x, depending on where it is reading on the disc). On my desktop PC, I have a 2-year old 12x CD drive along with another 16x drive. I don't notice the difference between any of these drives. I'm sure there's something you could measure, but its irrelevant to me in actual usage. I won't go out of my way to get one of those silly 40x drives. >You who have the ultrabay internal zip can you just put a bunch of >applications (oh well 1 or two per disk with todays software) and just run >them from the disk without transfering to the HD. This might be something to >warrant a purchase Would I want to run applications off of it? I could, but personally, I'd rather not. I have used my internal zip to run some AVI files as a demo, and it worked OK for that. But generally speaking, I don't use the Zip for applications. I use it exclusively to transfer files and archive data (or apps). I'm generally not interested in installing an application to a removable drive since, just to run it, I need to make sure I put that disk in. I did that for more than a few years when I had an Atari 800 and then a HP 150 Touchscreen. It was around 1990 that I finally owned a computer with a hard drive and I don't play the floppy-based application swap game anymore since then. :-) - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 21:22:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA21417 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 21:22:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23347; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 21:21:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 21:20:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23230; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 21:20:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (f96.hotmail.com [207.82.250.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23218; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 21:20:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3768 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 1999 02:19:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990107021946.3767.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.88.248.142 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Jan 1999 18:19:45 PST X-Originating-IP: [207.88.248.142] From: "Aristotle Castor" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Cc: acastor@hotmail.com Subject: IBM Thinkpad 600 - Advice Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 18:19:45 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Hi: I am considering buying a Thinkpad 600 with PII300 MHz, 128MB SDRAM, 5.1GB SMART, 2MB SGRAM, 24X CD, 1.44FDD, 13.3 TFT and other stuff (modem, 10/100 Ethernet PC Card etc.). for approx $2800. I am wondering if Thinkpad experts out there have some thoughts on if that is an excellent/bargain/average price. In addition any experiences on the Thinkpad 600 that might help ? Thanks AC ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 22:39:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA22723 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:39:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27208; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:39:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:38:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27122; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:38:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27110; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:37:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (slip-32-101-108-178.nc.us.ibm.net [32.101.108.178]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA79500 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 03:37:55 GMT Message-Id: <199901070337.DAA79500@out1.ibm.net> To: ThinkPad Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer for OS/2 (Green Edition Ver 3.0) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:37:17 EST From: Ron Ross Reply-To: Ron Ross Subject: No Subject List-Unsubscribe: I need to install Win95 on my ThinkPad 600 which has Warp4 with fixpack 9 o= n it, and I don't know how to proceed. Thus far I have used fdisk and Partition Magic to set-up the hard drive as follows: startable Primary Boot Manager bootable C: Primary empty fat 500mb D: Logical empty fat 500mb E: Logical empty fat 500mb bootable F: Logical Maintenance/BootOS2 hpfs 30mb bootable G: Logical WARP4 hpfs 500mb H: Logical WARP Applications hpfs 500mb I: Logical WARP Utilities + hpfs 100mb Free Space hpfs ~1.37gb and J: CD ROM I have the WIN95 "For Distribution Only with a New Computer" CD that I received some years ago with a Compaq Pentium 90. I have never used it and I no longer have the documentation that accompanied it. I have been an *OS2 Only* User for years. So, I don't have DOS or Windows installed on either of my computers or on diskettes. IIRC WIN 9* needs to be installed from a Windows or DOS environment. How can I install WIN 95 using my present set-up? - Can I install it by running set-up from a Dos Full Screen session? (S= ounds dangerous!) - Can I create the necessary DOS boot disks from within OS2? I have to/need to get this installation done asap for a new project, and to facilitate communications with my clients. I welcome any help. THANKS!! Ron -|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-| Ron Ross Charlotte, NC OS/2 WARP4 w.FP9 & Post Road Mailer 3.0a PGP Key Avaliable Upon Request From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 6 23:37:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA23348 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:37:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28850; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:37:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:36:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28741; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:36:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28729; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:36:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-080.usc.edu [128.125.224.80]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id UAA14171; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:36:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990106203057.00b604e0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 20:34:56 -0800 To: "Aristotle Castor" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: IBM Thinkpad 600 - Advice In-Reply-To: <19990107021946.3767.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 06:19 PM 1/6/99 -0800, you wrote: >I am considering buying a Thinkpad 600 with PII300 MHz, 128MB SDRAM, >5.1GB SMART, 2MB SGRAM, 24X CD, 1.44FDD, 13.3 TFT and other stuff >(modem, 10/100 Ethernet PC Card etc.). for approx $2800. > >I am wondering if Thinkpad experts out there have some thoughts on if >that is an excellent/bargain/average price. In addition any experiences >on the Thinkpad 600 that might help ? Let me put it this way... TELL ME WHERE and I'LL GET IT MYSELF!!! Seriously--if you want to save a few bucks, I'll sell you my 600 with P-II 233 and 96 MB RAM for less dough and buy the one you describe above as an upgrade (actually, I'll swap out HD's--I upgraded mine to 6 GB). So ya wanna do that? ;-) Enjoy your soon-to-be-new toy. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 02:12:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA24688 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04214; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:11:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:11:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04108; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:11:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04095; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:11:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p01.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.16]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA00318; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:02:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901070702.XAA00318@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Aleda@postoffice.worldnet.att.net" , "dr0ss@ibm.net" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 06 Jan 99 23:10:29 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 1410 problems, less-than-great IBM service List-Unsubscribe: >I think Airborne (wo ships the boxes) is having trouble because of the >holidays and the >midwestern weather. > Actually, it is FedEx who ships the boxes. It's amazing how troublesome IBM can be. :( And for having such great notebooks, too. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.4 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 02:19:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA24736 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:19:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04749; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:18:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04634; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:18:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04621; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:17:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p01.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.16]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA00949; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:09:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901070709.XAA00949@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Ron Ross" , "ThinkPad" Date: Wed, 06 Jan 99 23:17:22 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: No Subject List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:37:17 EST, Ron Ross wrote: >I need to install Win95 on my ThinkPad 600 which has Warp4 with fixpack 9 on >it, and I don't know how to proceed. > >Thus far I have used fdisk and Partition Magic to set-up the hard drive as >follows: >startable Primary Boot Manager >bootable C: Primary empty fat 500mb > D: Logical empty fat 500mb > E: Logical empty fat 500mb >bootable F: Logical Maintenance/BootOS2 hpfs 30mb >bootable G: Logical WARP4 hpfs 500mb > H: Logical WARP Applications hpfs 500mb > I: Logical WARP Utilities + hpfs 100mb > Free Space hpfs ~1.37gb > and J: CD ROM > Seems like you like logical partitions. Looks like 95 will have to go into drive C. One of the things I *HATE* about NT and 95/98/DOS is that it needs a primary partition to boot off of, where OS/2 and Linux don't care. >I have the WIN95 "For Distribution Only with a New Computer" CD >that I received some years ago with a Compaq Pentium 90. I have never used >it and I no longer have the documentation that accompanied it. > Which shouldn't really make much of a difference. >I have been an *OS2 Only* User for years. So, I don't have DOS or Windows >installed on either of my computers or on diskettes. > Who could blame you? I only have PC-DOS installed on a few of my machines, but I myself only use OS/2 or Solaris (with the exception of a ThinkPad that runs only NT 4). >IIRC WIN 9* needs to be installed from a Windows or DOS environment. > Windows, not nessecarily, DOS, yes. As long as you can access the CD-ROM (drivers in CONFIG.SYS and MSCDEX.EXE loaded in autoexec.bat), you should be able to run SETUP.EXE on the disc. >How can I install WIN 95 using my present set-up? > - Can I install it by running set-up from a Dos Full Screen session? (Sounds > dangerous!) Yeah. It'll trap your computer. I made a bootable disk image in OS/2 to boot Win95, but when it ran OEMSETUP.EXE, it trapped. > - Can I create the necessary DOS boot disks from within OS2? > All you need is to boot up DOS and load your CD-ROM drivers. >I have to/need to get this installation done asap for a new project, and to >facilitate communications with my clients. > >I welcome any help. > If you don't nessecarily need 95 in particular, you might try finding a good bargin on NT. My machine was for my brother, because his Win98 machine can't talk to the OS/2 boxes, and TCP/IP doesn't work on the whole network, whereas NT seems to be more compatible with OS/2 shares (though I can't see it). Good luck (and hopefully others will benefit from this, since this is quite a long email). =) -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.4 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 02:20:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA24750 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:20:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05148; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:20:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:20:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05061; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:20:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05049; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:20:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p01.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.16]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA01131; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:11:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901070711.XAA01131@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Rob Bell" , "Thinkpad List" Date: Wed, 06 Jan 99 23:19:23 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Fwd: [delivery failure to jonc@m1.sprynet.com] List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 06 Jan 1999 08:26:08 -0600, Rob Bell wrote: >Does anyone else get a failed mail message back from SpryNet for every >message sent to the ThinkPad list? This has happened to me for the last >couple of weeks and it gets very annoying. > Yes, and on the 701, I have a filter to delete the message. I would resend the message to sprynet, but I don't want them to consider me a spammer. >The message states that "delivery failed to jonc@ml.sprynet.com because >the mailbox is full". Can the list owner unsubscribe this person to >avoid the problem? > Yeah, it's really getting me POed, and I'm sure everyone else can sympathize with me on that one. More than the unsubscribe notices. Come to think of it, if those people UNSUBSCRIBED, then they'd get one less message (unsubscribe gets bounced from sprynet ). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.4 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 02:25:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA24775 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:25:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05591; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:25:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:24:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05503; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:24:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05489; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:24:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p01.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.16]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA01434; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:15:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901070715.XAA01434@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Girasoli, Tony" , "rj" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 06 Jan 99 23:23:16 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [701C] WTB: 32MB Memory module List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:43:09 -0500 (EST), rj wrote: >Try www.thechipmerchant.com. I got my 32MB module for my 701 2yr ago >from them as they had the lowest price and have not had any problems >that I'm aware of. And to think that now the same module is less than $60 (I think)? Just my 2 cents. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.4 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 07:58:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA27086 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 07:58:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19066; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 07:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 07:56:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18928; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 07:56:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18911; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 07:56:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.31.177]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990107125607.BRGS10240@dts-jl> for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 12:56:07 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990107075551.00b5c290@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 07:55:51 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: 1410 problems, less-than-great IBM service In-Reply-To: <199901070702.XAA00318@ritchie.loop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:10 PM 1/6/99 -0800, Paul Khoury wrote: >Actually, it is FedEx who ships the boxes. > The one I got this week came AirBorne and had an AirBorne label to send it out with. IBM may have been preparing for the FedEx strike. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 08:46:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA27548 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:46:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20774; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:46:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:45:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20648; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:45:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (IDENT:kim@fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20636; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:45:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA18848 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:45:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:45:23 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: TP List Subject: Re: Internal Zip speed ?? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990106154632.00b67e50@rcf.usc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Randal Whittle wrote: > > In short: Its a lot faster than the parallel port version. Have you ever > used the SCSI version of the Zip on a machine? If you have, you know the > speed difference is like night and day. This internal zip is no less > (pardon the pun) zippy than the SCSI version I have at my desktop. > > No, don't expect it to be HD speed, but I would find it compareable to a > CD-ROM at about...oh...8x speed. Maybe 12x. Don't quote me. :-) I'm > sure there are data transfer rate specs somewhere for the Zip that will > allow you a more exact comparison. That sounds about right. I think the Zip drive is suppose to top out at around 1.5 MB/sec transfer rate. A 1x CD-ROM is 150 kB/sec, so an 8x would be 1.2 MB/sec, and a 12x would be 1.8 MB/sec. I'm not sure what the specs of a standard parallel port are, but for some reason a max transfer rate of about 900 kB/sec comes to mind. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 09:05:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA27718 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:05:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21693; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:04:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:03:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21573; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:03:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21560; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:03:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:03:10 -0500 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-ims-2.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id JAA08632; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:02:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3694BE9D.98CBD048@csc.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 08:03:09 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Fwd: [delivery failure to jonc@m1.sprynet.com] References: <199901070711.XAA01131@ritchie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I contacted thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu and they unsubscribed the problem account. Rob From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 10:06:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA28426 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:06:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24423; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:04:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24285; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24273; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:04:20 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from JES770@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 7XVKa04297 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:03:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:03:45 EST To: TP List Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Internal Zip speed ?? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 List-Unsubscribe: I find the internal ZIP100 in my 770 very fast. Also have a parallel port Iomega ZIP, but only use it to make a set of Norton-ZIP-Recovery disks. I know that Norton-ZIP-Recovery can be made by only using the internal ZIP drive, but I want to retain the boot from floppy setup. BTW, I'm not sure that my machine would recognize the Iomega internal ZIP for booting (See below). FWIW: The UltraBay II on my ThinkPad 770 doesn't recognize the new internal IOMEGA ZIP. The ZIP functionality is OK -- including the right-click Tools options. It's just that the UltraBay Icon indicates that a CD-ROM is installed instead of the ZIP - even though I have the latest BIOS and drivers installed. The only dysfunctional effect is that it seems to take a long time to enter and recover from Suspend Mode when the ZIP is installed -- though it does suspend. While it's entering Suspend it seems like Windows95 OSR2 freezes, but it eventually suspends and restores from suspend. I should have purchased a VST ZIP since it's on the IBM Proven List. I presumed that IBM hadn't listed the Iomega yet - thinking that the OEM of a peripheral would certainly be IBM Proven. Also, the Iomega was about $60 cheaper. "Get what you pay for" ... John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 11:28:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA29892 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:28:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28754; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:27:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:26:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28615; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:26:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28598; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:26:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-214.usc.edu [128.125.223.214]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id IAA00154 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:26:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990107082016.00b1fb90@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 08:25:56 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Internal Zip speed ?? In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19990106154632.00b67e50@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:45 AM 1/7/99 -0500, you wrote: >> No, don't expect it to be HD speed, but I would find it compareable to a >> CD-ROM at about...oh...8x speed. Maybe 12x. Don't quote me. :-) I'm >> sure there are data transfer rate specs somewhere for the Zip that will >> allow you a more exact comparison. > >That sounds about right. I think the Zip drive is suppose to >top out at around 1.5 MB/sec transfer rate. A 1x CD-ROM is >150 kB/sec, so an 8x would be 1.2 MB/sec, and a 12x would be >1.8 MB/sec. Wow, I put that baby right into the zone! ;-) Thanks for checking those specs, John. >I'm not sure what the specs of a standard parallel port are, >but for some reason a max transfer rate of about 900 kB/sec >comes to mind. Sounds right, but in reality I find these wired transfer rates to be way below their presumed "capacity". Standard Ethernet is supposed to be capable of 10 Megabits per second but the reality is when I do file transfers over it with my home-spun Ethernet system, I typically get somewhere around 3 rather than 10. Of course, there is protocol overhead and whatnot, but the fact remains that the reality is around 1/2 what the stated / theoretical rate is. I'm guessing the parallel port speed is a similar issue. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 11:40:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA00171 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:40:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29799; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:39:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:39:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29695; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:39:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29683; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:39:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (slip-32-101-51-13.nc.us.ibm.net [32.101.51.13]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA87190 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:39:09 GMT Message-Id: <199901071639.QAA87190@out1.ibm.net> To: "ThinkPad" Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer for OS/2 (Green Edition Ver 3.0) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:39:09 EST From: Ron Ross Reply-To: Ron Ross Subject: Re: No Subject List-Unsubscribe: ** Reply to note from "Paul Khoury" Wed, 06 Jan 99 23:17= :22 -0800 Thanks Paul. I now have access to my fiance's ThinkPad 600 which has WIN95 on it. I used C:\SYS a: to copy command.com, & copied the cd driver & files. So, I have the following on the diskette: COMMAND COM 93812 8-24-96 11:11a IBMTPCD SYS 14880 12-16-97 3:11a IBMTPCD IDP 3014 7-27-95 12:40p MSCDEX EXE 24625 4-15-94 6:30a I need detailed instructions on how to create the config.sys & autoexec.bat= to load the drivers so the WIN95 boot disk can access the CD. Thanks, Ron > On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:37:17 EST, Ron Ross wrote: > > >I need to install Win95 on my ThinkPad 600 which has Warp4 with fixpack = 9 on > >it, and I don't know how to proceed. > > > >Thus far I have used fdisk and Partition Magic to set-up the hard drive = as > >follows: > >startable Primary Boot Manager > >bootable C: Primary empty fat 500mb > > D: Logical empty fat 500mb > > E: Logical empty fat 500mb > >bootable F: Logical Maintenance/BootOS2 hpfs 30mb > >bootable G: Logical WARP4 hpfs 500mb > > H: Logical WARP Applications hpfs 500mb > > I: Logical WARP Utilities + hpfs 100mb > > Free Space hpfs ~1.37gb > > and J: CD ROM > > > Seems like you like logical partitions. Looks like 95 will have to go int= o drive C. One > of the things I *HATE* about NT and 95/98/DOS is that it needs a primary = partition to > boot off of, where OS/2 and Linux don't care. > > >I have the WIN95 "For Distribution Only with a New Computer" CD > >that I received some years ago with a Compaq Pentium 90. I have never us= ed > >it and I no longer have the documentation that accompanied it. > > > > Which shouldn't really make much of a difference. > > >I have been an *OS2 Only* User for years. So, I don't have DOS or Window= s > >installed on either of my computers or on diskettes. > > > Who could blame you? I only have PC-DOS installed on a few of my machines= , but I myself > only use OS/2 or Solaris (with the exception of a ThinkPad that runs only= NT 4). > > >IIRC WIN 9* needs to be installed from a Windows or DOS environment. > > > > Windows, not nessecarily, DOS, yes. As long as you can access the CD-ROM = (drivers in > CONFIG.SYS and MSCDEX.EXE loaded in autoexec.bat), you should be able to = run SETUP.EXE on > the disc. > > >How can I install WIN 95 using my present set-up? > > - Can I install it by running set-up from a Dos Full Screen session?= (Sounds > > dangerous!) > > Yeah. It'll trap your computer. I made a bootable disk image in OS/2 to b= oot Win95, but > when it ran OEMSETUP.EXE, it trapped. > > > - Can I create the necessary DOS boot disks from within OS2? > > > All you need is to boot up DOS and load your CD-ROM drivers. > > >I have to/need to get this installation done asap for a new project, and= to > >facilitate communications with my clients. > > > >I welcome any help. > > > > If you don't nessecarily need 95 in particular, you might try finding a g= ood bargin on > NT. My machine was for my brother, because his Win98 machine can't talk t= o the OS/2 > boxes, and TCP/IP doesn't work on the whole network, whereas NT seems to = be more > compatible with OS/2 shares (though I can't see it). > > Good luck (and hopefully others will benefit from this, since this is qui= te a long > email). =3D) > > -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0= , Sun Solaris > 2.3/2.4 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 > > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ = Ron Ross rjross@ibm.net RJR Consultants, Inc Charlotte, N.C. \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ PGP public key avaliable upon request From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 11:49:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA00307 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:49:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00651; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:48:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:47:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00527; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:47:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out-0.tiac.net (mail-out-0.tiac.net [199.0.65.247]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00514; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:47:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out-1.tiac.net (mail-out-1.tiac.net [199.0.65.12]) by mail-out-0.tiac.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07632 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:47:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ecottrell@Doble.com) Received: from ntmail.doble.com (ntmail.doble.com [204.215.186.11]) by mail-out-1.tiac.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA04006 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:46:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by ntmail.doble.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BE3A33.25DA9E20@ntmail.doble.com>; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:44:56 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'TP List'" , "'John Kim'" Subject: RE: Internal Zip speed ?? Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:44:55 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, Actually parallel port rates vary depending on the type. If you can set the port mode to ECP or EPP then you get about 700 to 900 kB/sec. A standard bi-directional port is about 200 to 500 kB/sec I believe. I use the SCSI version of the Zip drive as I tend to get SCSI cards for all my computers (including a Adaptec 1460 for my 365ED). The SCSI capability is handy for backing up to 8mm tape now that laptop drives are in the multiple gigabyte range. I remember when I could not fill a 2.2 Gigabyte tape with one backup. Now I need multiple tapes. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com WB1HBU >---------- >From: John Kim[SMTP:kim@stormhaven.org] >Sent: Thursday, January 07, 1999 8:45 AM >To: TP List >Subject: Re: Internal Zip speed ?? > > >That sounds about right. I think the Zip drive is suppose to >top out at around 1.5 MB/sec transfer rate. A 1x CD-ROM is >150 kB/sec, so an 8x would be 1.2 MB/sec, and a 12x would be >1.8 MB/sec. > >I'm not sure what the specs of a standard parallel port are, >but for some reason a max transfer rate of about 900 kB/sec >comes to mind. >-- >John H. Kim >kim@stormhaven.org > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 12:22:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA00982 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 12:22:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02961; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 12:21:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 12:19:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02782; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 12:19:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (IDENT:kim@fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02762; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 12:19:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA19382 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 12:19:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 12:19:23 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: TP List Subject: Re: Internal Zip speed ?? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990107082016.00b1fb90@rcf.usc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, Randal Whittle wrote: > > > >That sounds about right. I think the Zip drive is suppose to > >top out at around 1.5 MB/sec transfer rate. A 1x CD-ROM is > >150 kB/sec, so an 8x would be 1.2 MB/sec, and a 12x would be > >1.8 MB/sec. > > Wow, I put that baby right into the zone! ;-) Thanks for checking those > specs, John. The 150 kB/sec spec for a 1x CD-ROM drive become ingrained into my memory when I found out my 4x CD-RW drive could only write at 2x with 99% of the CD-RW disks currently on the market (CD-RW speed is determined by both the drive and media, not just the drive - don't make the mistake I did and get a 4x CD-RW drive, then buy a bunch of CD-RW disks only to find out they're 2x disks). 2x is s...l...o...w. > Sounds right, but in reality I find these wired transfer rates to be way > below their presumed "capacity". Standard Ethernet is supposed to be > capable of 10 Megabits per second but the reality is when I do file > transfers over it with my home-spun Ethernet system, I typically get > somewhere around 3 rather than 10. Of course, there is protocol overhead > and whatnot, but the fact remains that the reality is around 1/2 what the > stated / theoretical rate is. I'm guessing the parallel port speed is a > similar issue. Whoa there. What protocol are you running? I run TCP/IP on a 10bT ethernet network between my desktop and my laptop. I typically get 850-900 kB/sec transfer rates, which is just under the theoretical max of 1.1 MB/sec for 10bT. This is with a 5 year old PCMCIA ethernet card in the laptop. I think it's capable of even higher speed, but it's being limited by the CPU and IDE and PCMCIA interfaces (the CPU gets pegged at 100% when I do these transfers). I used to get 300 kB/sec transfer rates with my old laptop, but I've since concluded that that was due to the CPU being maxed on the li'l ol' 486/75. I can't wait to upgrade to a cardbus laptop. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 13:40:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02450 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:40:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07547; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:39:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:37:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07366; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:37:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07342; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:37:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:36:47 -0500 Sender: bbender@csi.com Received: from brianb-tp (isdn242.vocollect.com [209.166.154.242]) by hil-img-ims-4.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id NAA11490 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:36:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian Bender" To: "'Thinkpads'" Subject: RE: Leaving battery in? Was "Are bezels available...?" Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:36:33 -0500 Message-ID: <001e01be3a6c$a74c7f80$2f051fac@brianb-tp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990106131503.00b64100@pop.mindspring.com> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: As well as a surge suppressor. - Brian On Wednesday, January 06, 1999 1:15 PM, Jane Loyless wrote: > > > At 12:33 PM 1/6/99 -0500, "Don" wrote: > > >I have been looking for a cover for the battery cover as > well. My concern is > >that when I use the system for extended periods on AC power > the battery may > >suffer or get overheated. Any recommendations whether I > should leave the > >battery in place during these times or should I remove it? > > > > I always leave it in. It serves as a UPS. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 13:56:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02690 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:56:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08329; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:49:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:48:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08166; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:48:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com ([208.14.17.29]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08146; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:48:11 -0500 (EST) From: Received: by wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:45:42 -0500 Message-ID: <9872B1801434D21191CF006097BC884E8F17F0@wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com> To: bbender@csi.com, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Leaving battery in? Was "Are bezels available...?" Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:45:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: How does a battery act as a surge suppressor, since the surge would be traveling over the AC adapter where the surge could spread through out the entire box? > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Bender [SMTP:bbender@csi.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 1999 1:37 PM > To: 'Thinkpads' > Subject: RE: Leaving battery in? Was "Are bezels available...?" > > As well as a surge suppressor. > > - Brian > > On Wednesday, January 06, 1999 1:15 PM, Jane Loyless wrote: > > > > > > At 12:33 PM 1/6/99 -0500, "Don" wrote: > > > > >I have been looking for a cover for the battery cover as > > well. My concern is > > >that when I use the system for extended periods on AC power > > the battery may > > >suffer or get overheated. Any recommendations whether I > > should leave the > > >battery in place during these times or should I remove it? > > > > > > > I always leave it in. It serves as a UPS. > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 13:58:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02740 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:58:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09003; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:57:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:56:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08869; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:56:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAD (smtp4.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08854; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:56:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:56:04 -0500 Sender: bbender@csi.com Received: from brianb-tp (isdn242.vocollect.com [209.166.154.242]) by hil-img-11.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id NAA07619; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:55:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian Bender" To: , Subject: RE: Leaving battery in? Was "Are bezels available...?" Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:55:56 -0500 Message-ID: <001f01be3a6f$5c251eb0$2f051fac@brianb-tp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <9872B1801434D21191CF006097BC884E8F17F0@wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I'm just guessing at the layout, but I imagine the battery has a nice clean run to the power & ground planes, so it would sink quite a bit of a spike before it could actually raise the voltage enough to hurt other components... No? - Brian > On Thursday, January 07, 1999 1:46 PM, Robert_Huber@WellspringRes.com > wrote: > > > How does a battery act as a surge suppressor, since the surge would be > traveling over the AC adapter where the surge could spread > through out the > entire box? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian Bender [SMTP:bbender@csi.com] > > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 1999 1:37 PM > > To: 'Thinkpads' > > Subject: RE: Leaving battery in? Was "Are bezels available...?" > > > > As well as a surge suppressor. > > > > - Brian > > > > On Wednesday, January 06, 1999 1:15 PM, Jane Loyless wrote: > > > > > > > > > At 12:33 PM 1/6/99 -0500, "Don" wrote: > > > > > > >I have been looking for a cover for the battery cover as > > > well. My concern is > > > >that when I use the system for extended periods on AC power > > > the battery may > > > >suffer or get overheated. Any recommendations whether I > > > should leave the > > > >battery in place during these times or should I remove it? > > > > > > > > > > I always leave it in. It serves as a UPS. > > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 14:02:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA02784 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:02:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09349; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:01:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:00:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09226; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:00:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09214; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:00:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial23.vramp.net (dial23.vramp.net [209.107.20.38]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA07659; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:00:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901071900.OAA07659@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: "Brian Bender" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:00:50 -0500 Subject: RE: Leaving battery in? Was "Are bezels available...?" Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <001e01be3a6c$a74c7f80$2f051fac@brianb-tp> References: <3.0.1.32.19990106131503.00b64100@pop.mindspring.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 7 Jan 99, at 13:36, Brian Bender wrote: > As well as a surge suppressor. Sorry Brian, not true. Your thinkpad isn't running on the battery until after the power fails. While on AC, the unit runs directly off the mains with a portion of the current sent to the battery to charge it, if required. Any deterioration in the line current (spike, etc.) would directly affect the unit. The only thing you are protected from are voltage drops sufficient to cause the unit to run directly >from the battery (don't remember what this was, but it was pretty low) and total line failure. Regards, James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. CaptJHEM@waterw.com Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 14:18:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA03059 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:18:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10513; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:16:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:15:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10351; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:15:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10337; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:15:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-064.usc.edu [128.125.224.64]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id LAA21703; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:14:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990107105411.00b2a470@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 11:14:14 -0800 To: John Kim , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Internal Zip speed ?? In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19990107082016.00b1fb90@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:19 PM 1/7/99 -0500, you wrote: >The 150 kB/sec spec for a 1x CD-ROM drive become ingrained >into my memory when I found out my 4x CD-RW drive could only >write at 2x with 99% of the CD-RW disks currently on the >market (CD-RW speed is determined by both the drive and media, >not just the drive - don't make the mistake I did and get a >4x CD-RW drive, then buy a bunch of CD-RW disks only to find >out they're 2x disks). I'm a recent inductee into the CD-RW club and have been reading up on this a lot lately. From what I understand, its not that the disks are 2x or 4x, it has more to do with the quality of the disks. Lesser-quality disks often have to revert to 2x writing speed. Furthermore, some drives--plain old CD-readers--don't like disks recorded at 4x while that same drive can read media recorded at 2x. And reading drives vary on their ability to read different types of media--silver/blue, gold/green, gold/gold, etc. The general consensus from all the people I've talked to and all the FAQs I've read is that "It all depends". They recommend trying to get a good handle on who & what drives (or CD Players) your recorded disks will be used in, find out what works in those drives, and use it. Some car CD players, for instance, don't like the green-dye surface. >2x is s...l...o...w. I got the Yamaha 2216 (2x write, 2x re-write, 16x reading) instead of the 4416 (4x write and re-write) simply to save the extra $100 I would have paid for the faster drive. I don't regret it, really. 2x isn't going to win any races, but frankly, neither is 4x. Of course it depends on how much you're going to use it and how much you typically put on a CD, but my average session hovers around 20 to 30 minutes--sometimes less. I just set it up and go do something else. If I had a 4x drive, I'd still be looking at 10 to 15 minutes at a minimum. Either way, its no speed demon and until I see drives writing at...oh, 12x, I'm not going to get excited about what speed my CD-RW can write at. :-) As long as we're on this, do you know of a convenient/quick way to copy lots of files from a CD to a HD and either *not* have the "Read-only" attribute copied over or a quick way to turn that attribute off en-masse once copied? >> Sounds right, but in reality I find these wired transfer rates to be way >> below their presumed "capacity". Standard Ethernet is supposed to be >> capable of 10 Megabits per second but the reality is when I do file >> transfers over it with my home-spun Ethernet system, I typically get >> somewhere around 3 rather than 10. Of course, there is protocol overhead >Whoa there. What protocol are you running? I run TCP/IP on a Typically IPX, but I could put TCP/IP on. >10bT ethernet network between my desktop and my laptop. I >typically get 850-900 kB/sec transfer rates, which is just >under the theoretical max of 1.1 MB/sec for 10bT. This is I should go back and take a look...I may have been suffering from a brain-fart when I wrote that. :-) >I used to get 300 kB/sec transfer rates with my old laptop, >but I've since concluded that that was due to the CPU being >maxed on the li'l ol' 486/75. I can't wait to upgrade to a >cardbus laptop. My TP600 has cardbus, but I just migrated my existing PC cards over to it and didn't get any fancy cardbus cards for it. For Ethernet in particular, in order for me to enjoy the benefit of 100 MB/sec, I'll have to upgrade the card in my desktop PC, my little hub, and if that isn't enough, I think I'd have to dump my JetDirect EX3 print server in favor of another one that supports fast ethernet. No thanks...I'll just live with what I've got. For the amount of file transferring I do, its quite adequate. The number of occasions where I have to transfer a *lot* (and therefore have to wait) are pretty few. Usually its only a 10 MB or so at a time, and almost never more than 30 MB. - Randy From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 14:26:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA03195 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:26:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10910; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:20:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:19:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10722; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:19:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10699; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:18:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:18:20 -0500 Sender: bbender@csi.com Received: from brianb-tp (isdn242.vocollect.com [209.166.154.242]) by hil-img-ims-5.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id OAA17372; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:17:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian Bender" To: , Subject: RE: Leaving battery in? Was "Are bezels available...?" Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:18:15 -0500 Message-ID: <002001be3a72$7a4cd150$2f051fac@brianb-tp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <199901071900.OAA07659@water.vramp.net> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Cool, I learned something new. Thanks. Now that I think about it, it makes perfect sense. :) Once-upon-a-time I think it may have been true, though. Back in the days when leaving the AC adapter plugged into the notebook but not the wall would drain your battery... - Brian On Thursday, January 07, 1999 2:01 PM, captjhem@waterw.com wrote: > > > On 7 Jan 99, at 13:36, Brian Bender wrote: > > > As well as a surge suppressor. > > Sorry Brian, not true. Your thinkpad isn't running on the > battery until after the > power fails. While on AC, the unit runs directly off the > mains with a portion of > the current sent to the battery to charge it, if required. > Any deterioration in the > line current (spike, etc.) would directly affect the unit. > The only thing you are > protected from are voltage drops sufficient to cause the unit > to run directly > from the battery (don't remember what this was, but it was > pretty low) and > total line failure. > > Regards, > > James > > James H. E. Maugham, V.P. > CaptJHEM@waterw.com > Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project > http://www.libertynet.org/~share > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 14:30:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA03287 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:30:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11637; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:27:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:27:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11498; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:27:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11482; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:27:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-064.usc.edu [128.125.224.64]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id LAA25452; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:26:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990107111902.00b20550@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 11:26:34 -0800 To: "Morgan Adair" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Interesting news tidbit. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:41 AM 1/7/99 -0700, you wrote: >>>> Randal Whittle 01/07/99 09:14AM >>> >> Not really. Frankly, its none of our business. I'm sure the only reason >>he "went public" with this at all was to be straight and upfront about what >>took place, rather than allow rumors to fly. >> >> At a personal level, while I'm disappointed to hear about this, I am also >>heartened by the apparent fact that he's chosen a path of repentence--and >>sometimes that path begins with excommunication. The first step is always >>the hardest. > >Rumor from my wife's friend's brother who is in Smith's ward: Smith ^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ Good gracious...talk about a chain of gossip! ;-) >confessed to >his priesthood quorum to a longstanding affair. The source also corroborated >facts as stated in the newspaper article. Looks to me like Smith is a good man >who made a mistake and is trying to set it right. I sure hope so. Am I the only one that notes the stark contrast between what Smith is (apparently) doing with respect to the repentence process vs. Clinton? One is fighting, screaming, and kicking against the pricks (scripturally speaking, not...well, you know) while the other recognized he was doing something wrong in his life and (apparently, at least) sought to reconcile, accepting his difficult lumps (excommunication) along the way. I only wish the public at large could recognize the difference and see that people like me are quite willing to forgive an (apparently) penitent man like Smith while cutting no slack at all for a clearly defiant one like Clinton. Feigned public "apologies" (which were never really apologies at all) are not enough. One recognized his wrong and sought repentence and accepted the painful knocks that go with it while the other got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and is sorry for nothing more than the fact that he got caught. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 14:34:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA03352 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:34:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12215; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:32:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:31:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11997; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:31:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11967; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:31:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-064.usc.edu [128.125.224.64]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id LAA26793 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:31:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990107113002.00b3be80@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 11:31:05 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: APOLOGIES!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I sincerely apologize to the list... I mis-addressed a message that was meant for a religious/political discussion list. Not meant for ThinkPads, certainly!! Please accept my apologies... - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 14:41:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA03457 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:41:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12548; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:33:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:32:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12345; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:32:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from firefly.prairienet.org (firefly.prairienet.org [192.17.3.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12247; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pnet16 (ppp202.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.202]) by firefly.prairienet.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA20641 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:32:12 -0600 (CST) From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: Battery life Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:31:46 -0600 Message-ID: <000c01be3a74$5d086080$9150fea9@pnet16.prairienet.org.prairienet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: So is it correct, then, to assume that leaving a Li-Ion battery constantly connected while on AC power will not shorten its life? -David David Talkington User Support Prairienet / Community Networking Initiative 244-1962 dtalk@prairienet.org ********************************************************** My words are my own, and represent those of a grouch. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 16:27:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05139 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:27:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18472; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:26:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:25:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18342; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:25:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (IDENT:kim@fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18329; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:25:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA20230 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:25:21 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:25:21 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: TP List Subject: Re: Internal Zip speed ?? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990107105411.00b2a470@rcf.usc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, Randal Whittle wrote: > I'm a recent inductee into the CD-RW club and have been reading up on this > a lot lately. > > From what I understand, its not that the disks are 2x or 4x, it has more > to do with the quality of the disks. Lesser-quality disks often have to > revert to 2x writing speed. Furthermore, some drives--plain old Some CD-RW disks are certified for 2x, others are certified for 4x. When I pop in a 2x disk, I don't even get the option to try to write to it at 4x. That option is greyed out. So somehow, the disk is telling the drive not to try writing to it faster than 2x. > I got the Yamaha 2216 (2x write, 2x re-write, 16x reading) instead of the > 4416 (4x write and re-write) simply to save the extra $100 I would have > paid for the faster drive. I don't regret it, really. 2x isn't going to > win any races, but frankly, neither is 4x. Of course it depends on how I would much rather pay $100 to go from 30 min to 15 min (a net savings of 15 minutes), than pay $100 to go from 8x to 16x (from 8 min to 4 min, for a net savings of 4 minutes). I have a 20x CD-ROM reader right now, and I frankly don't see the point in upgrading it to 32x or 40x or whatever the latest speed is, because 20x is already plenty fast enough. The biggest difference in wait times is at the low speeds. > As long as we're on this, do you know of a convenient/quick way to copy > lots of files from a CD to a HD and either *not* have the "Read-only" > attribute copied over or a quick way to turn that attribute off en-masse > once copied? I don't think I've run into this problem. I'm using CD-R primarly to backup unix tarfiles and make audio CDs. I've relegated the CD-RWs for Windows duty. > My TP600 has cardbus, but I just migrated my existing PC cards over to it > and didn't get any fancy cardbus cards for it. For Ethernet in particular, > in order for me to enjoy the benefit of 100 MB/sec, I'll have to upgrade > the card in my desktop PC, my little hub, and if that isn't enough, I think I think a major benefit of Cardbus over PCMCIA is that it uses the PCI bus, instead of the ISA bus. Your laptop will suffer much less CPU usage with a Cardbus card than with a PCMCIA card. > For the amount of file transferring I do, its quite adequate. The number > of occasions where I have to transfer a *lot* (and therefore have to wait) > are pretty few. Usually its only a 10 MB or so at a time, and almost never > more than 30 MB. Heh heh. Wait until you get a cable modem like I've got. :-) -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 16:39:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05397 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:39:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19308; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:37:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19205; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:37:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.243]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19192; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:37:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad (slip166-72-104-34.nj.us.ibm.net [166.72.104.34]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA112482 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 21:37:01 GMT Message-ID: <001b01be3a85$dbedaac0$226848a6@thinkpad> From: "Donald Mak" To: "Thinkpad" Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:36:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE3A5B.F10F4FA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE3A5B.F10F4FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since upgrading to win98 on the Thinkpad 770ED Ring Central is not = working properly. After the first call I do not get any sound. I have = tried changing the program settings for Ring Central not to adjust = volume automatically and this had no effect eigther. It seems as though = the program mutes all the settings anyway. I did find that by changing the settings under advanced in the Audio = section of Multimedia from the default of Stereo Speakers to Laptop = Speakers I finally get sound in Netmeeting and the dialing tone for the = modem.=20 Anyone have ideas as to what the problem is with Ring Central? I have = build 4.10.97. There is an upgrade for user of 4.10.87 to 4.10.104 but = it will not work on the 4.10.97 build.=20 Don ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE3A5B.F10F4FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Since upgrading to win98 on the = Thinkpad 770ED=20 Ring Central is not working properly. After the first call I do not get = any=20 sound. I have tried changing the program settings for Ring Central not = to adjust=20 volume automatically and this had no effect eigther. It seems as though = the=20 program mutes all the settings anyway.
 
I did find that by changing the = settings under=20 advanced in the Audio section of Multimedia from the default of Stereo = Speakers=20 to Laptop Speakers I finally get sound in Netmeeting and the dialing = tone for=20 the modem.
Anyone have ideas as to what the problem is with Ring Central? I = have build=20 4.10.97. There is an upgrade for user of 4.10.87 to 4.10.104 but it will = not=20 work on the 4.10.97 build.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE3A5B.F10F4FA0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 17:18:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA05936 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:18:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21134; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:12:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:11:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20997; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:11:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20979; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-064.usc.edu [128.125.224.64]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id OAA17586; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:10:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990107135108.00a0da80@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 14:10:29 -0800 To: John Kim , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Internal Zip speed ?? In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19990107105411.00b2a470@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 04:25 PM 1/7/99 -0500, you wrote: >> From what I understand, its not that the disks are 2x or 4x, it has more >> to do with the quality of the disks. Lesser-quality disks often have to >> revert to 2x writing speed. Furthermore, some drives--plain old > >Some CD-RW disks are certified for 2x, others are certified >for 4x. When I pop in a 2x disk, I don't even get the option >to try to write to it at 4x. That option is greyed out. So >somehow, the disk is telling the drive not to try writing to >it faster than 2x. What software are you using? Funny thing is, I have cheapo disks I bought at a swap meet (a whole spindle of 'em--but I did get the gold/gold variety if that really makes a difference--supposedly that's the highest quality but who knows?). Now I just use the Adaptec Easy CD-Creator software that came with my Yamaha drive, but it always reverts to 4x writing speed by default! Since I bought cheap disks, I don't think its that, and certainly my 2x writing drive won't actually write at 4x speed (as a matter of fact, the software forces a test that has to be passed before it will write at 4x--I've never tried to do it since I know it won't work anyway). >> I got the Yamaha 2216 (2x write, 2x re-write, 16x reading) instead of the >> 4416 (4x write and re-write) simply to save the extra $100 I would have >> paid for the faster drive. I don't regret it, really. 2x isn't going to >> win any races, but frankly, neither is 4x. Of course it depends on how > >I would much rather pay $100 to go from 30 min to 15 min (a >net savings of 15 minutes), than pay $100 to go from 8x to 16x >(from 8 min to 4 min, for a net savings of 4 minutes). I have >a 20x CD-ROM reader right now, and I frankly don't see the >point in upgrading it to 32x or 40x or whatever the latest >speed is, because 20x is already plenty fast enough. The >biggest difference in wait times is at the low speeds. I quite agree with you and alluded to that in previous posts in this thread. Personally, I find almost no real-world difference in my TP600's 24X CD drive than the 12x CD drive I have in my desktop. Hence for me, 12x is all I care to have. I wouldn't pay through the nose to have a 40x CD. ...and its sort of the same thing with the writing speed for me. As I said, I typically spend 20 or 30 minutes burning a CD (unless I'm only burning a small one, in which case we're talking 5 or 6 min.). What I'm getting at is it makes little difference to me whether the computer is unusable for 10 min. or 20 min. (or 15 vs. 30), unless I were in the production business where I needed to make 30 CD's or something. BUT--if I had a 16x writing speed, I'd consider that--because then that 30 min. session becomes 4 min. (and that little 6 min. session less than 1 min.) and that *is* a significant difference. But as it stands, 15 min. might as well be 30, since I'm not going to sit and watch it anyway. >> For the amount of file transferring I do, its quite adequate. The number >> of occasions where I have to transfer a *lot* (and therefore have to wait) >> are pretty few. Usually its only a 10 MB or so at a time, and almost never >> more than 30 MB. > >Heh heh. Wait until you get a cable modem like I've got. :-) Sounds to me like you use it to download nudie pictures. ;-) - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 17:56:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA06516 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:56:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23548; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:55:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:53:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23422; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:53:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23410; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:53:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (slip-32-101-108-8.nc.us.ibm.net [32.101.108.8]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA12140; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 22:53:31 GMT Message-Id: <199901072253.WAA12140@out1.ibm.net> To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad" Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer for OS/2 (Green Edition Ver 3.0) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:52:56 EST From: Ron Ross Reply-To: Ron Ross Subject: Re: No Subject List-Unsubscribe: Addressed to: "Paul Khoury" "ThinkPad" ** Reply to note from "Paul Khoury" Wed, 06 Jan 99 23:17= :22 -0800 > > On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:37:17 EST, Ron Ross wrote: > > >I need to install Win95 on my ThinkPad 600 which has Warp4 with fixpack = 9 on > >it, and I don't know how to proceed. > > > >Thus far I have used fdisk and Partition Magic to set-up the hard drive = as > >follows: > >startable Primary Boot Manager > >bootable C: Primary empty fat 500mb > > D: Logical empty fat 500mb > > E: Logical empty fat 500mb > >bootable F: Logical Maintenance/BootOS2 hpfs 30mb > >bootable G: Logical WARP4 hpfs 500mb > > H: Logical WARP Applications hpfs 500mb > > I: Logical WARP Utilities + hpfs 100mb > > Free Space hpfs ~1.37gb > > and J: CD ROM > > > Seems like you like logical partitions. Looks like 95 will have to go int= o drive C. One > of the things I *HATE* about NT and 95/98/DOS is that it needs a primary = partition to > boot off of, where OS/2 and Linux don't care. > > >I have the WIN95 "For Distribution Only with a New Computer" CD > >that I received some years ago with a Compaq Pentium 90. I have never us= ed > >it and I no longer have the documentation that accompanied it. > > > > Which shouldn't really make much of a difference. > > >I have been an *OS2 Only* User for years. So, I don't have DOS or Window= s > >installed on either of my computers or on diskettes. > > > Who could blame you? I only have PC-DOS installed on a few of my machines= , but I myself > only use OS/2 or Solaris (with the exception of a ThinkPad that runs only= NT 4). > > >IIRC WIN 9* needs to be installed from a Windows or DOS environment. > > > > Windows, not nessecarily, DOS, yes. As long as you can access the CD-ROM = (drivers in > CONFIG.SYS and MSCDEX.EXE loaded in autoexec.bat), you should be able to = run SETUP.EXE on > the disc. > > >How can I install WIN 95 using my present set-up? > > - Can I install it by running set-up from a Dos Full Screen session?= (Sounds > > dangerous!) > > Yeah. It'll trap your computer. I made a bootable disk image in OS/2 to b= oot Win95, but > when it ran OEMSETUP.EXE, it trapped. > > > - Can I create the necessary DOS boot disks from within OS2? > > > All you need is to boot up DOS and load your CD-ROM drivers. > > >I have to/need to get this installation done asap for a new project, and= to > >facilitate communications with my clients. > > > >I welcome any help. > > > > If you don't nessecarily need 95 in particular, you might try finding a g= ood bargin on > NT. My machine was for my brother, because his Win98 machine can't talk t= o the OS/2 > boxes, and TCP/IP doesn't work on the whole network, whereas NT seems to = be more > compatible with OS/2 shares (though I can't see it). > > Good luck (and hopefully others will benefit from this, since this is qui= te a long > email). =3D) > > -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0= , Sun Solaris > 2.3/2.4 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 > Paul, Thanks for your most valuable information and assistance!! Win95 is being installed now. Ron /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ = Ron Ross rjross@ibm.net RJR Consultants, Inc Charlotte, N.C. \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ PGP public key avaliable upon request From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 18:24:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA06863 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:24:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26189; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:22:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:21:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25854; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (IDENT:kim@fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25829; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:21:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA20632 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:21:25 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:21:25 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: TP List Subject: Re: Internal Zip speed ?? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990107135108.00a0da80@rcf.usc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, Randal Whittle wrote: > At 04:25 PM 1/7/99 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Some CD-RW disks are certified for 2x, others are certified > >for 4x. When I pop in a 2x disk, I don't even get the option > >to try to write to it at 4x. That option is greyed out. So > >somehow, the disk is telling the drive not to try writing to > >it faster than 2x. > > What software are you using? I tried Adaptec's software, and I tried createcd under Unix. Both had the same result - maximum write speed of 2x to the 2x certified CD-RW disks. When I popped in the 4x CD-RW disk that came with the drive, it "magically" was able to write at 4x. > >Heh heh. Wait until you get a cable modem like I've got. :-) > > Sounds to me like you use it to download nudie pictures. ;-) I do network backups of a system I help run for my church. :-) I fire a 200 MB tarfile from the system 1500 miles away (encrypted of course) to my laptop Unix system, compress it with gzip or b2zip, then transfer it to the Windows desktop system where I dump it to CD-R (the remote machine is a 486/66 so it's actually faster for me to just download the raw tarfile than wait for it to compress on the remote.). The first transfer takes about 20-30 minutes. The second transfer is entirely within my LAN and takes about 2-3 minutes at 900 kB/sec. If I were getting 300 kB/sec, it would be 6-9 minutes, which I would start to find annoying. :-) Also, once you get a cable modem, you tend to get sloppy with downloads. A 20 MB game demo? Grab it. A 5 MB video from CNN? Grab it too. A 150 MB trial version of Unix office suite software? Might as well grab that too. You find yourself up to your ears in large files very quickly. I probably have a couple hundred MB of RedHat RPMs lying around everywhere too (which in a way is silly since with my cable modem, there really isn't much need for me to keep a local copy :-). -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 19:24:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA07597 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:24:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29419; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:23:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:22:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29237; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:22:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29213; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:22:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from robinson.math.hawaii.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA11024; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:22:01 -1000 Message-ID: <000801be3a9c$e50a01a0$775c2581@robinson.math.hawaii.edu> From: "David Ross" To: "Paul Khoury" , , Subject: Re: 1410 problems, less-than-great IBM service Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:21:50 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Me: >>I think Airborne (wo ships the boxes) is having trouble because of the Paul: >Actually, it is FedEx who ships the boxes. Apparently no longer. I now have 3 boxes from Airborne to prove it. BTW, the box design seems to have changed - no longer the nifty stretch-tight cradle. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 20:15:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA08047 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:15:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01378; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:07:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01282; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:07:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01270; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:07:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial1.vramp.net (dial1.vramp.net [209.107.20.16]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA01009 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:07:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901080107.UAA01009@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:08:26 -0500 Subject: Re: Internal Zip speed ?? Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal References: <4.1.19990107135108.00a0da80@rcf.usc.edu> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 7 Jan 99, at 18:21, John Kim wrote: > Also, once you get a cable modem, you tend to get sloppy with > downloads. A 20 MB game demo? Grab it. A 5 MB video from > CNN? Grab it too. A 150 MB trial version of Unix office > suite software? Might as well grab that too. You find > yourself up to your ears in large files very quickly. I'm up against this with my son who brought his CPU home with him for the holidays from school. He left in Sept. with almost 5 Gig of free space and came home with approx. 500 MB remaining. He's got a 10/100 network connection right in his room and reports that the difference in download between his "puny" 56K modem at home and his connection at school is the difference between a straw and a fire hose! I am green with envy! Regards, James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. CaptJHEM@waterw.com Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 7 21:14:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA08567 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 21:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03779; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 21:13:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 21:12:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03665; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 21:12:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03648; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 21:11:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp300 (dgoldman.vip.best.com [204.156.137.147]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.1/8.9.0/best.out) with SMTP id SAA10696; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:09:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990107180508.00b5aec0@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 18:09:25 -0800 To: John Kim , TP List From: David Goldman Subject: Re: Internal Zip speed ?? In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19990107105411.00b2a470@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 04:25 PM 1/7/99 -0500, John Kim wrote: > >Some CD-RW disks are certified for 2x, others are certified >for 4x. When I pop in a 2x disk, I don't even get the option >to try to write to it at 4x. That option is greyed out. So >somehow, the disk is telling the drive not to try writing to >it faster than 2x. Some CD-R media is now certified up to 8x! >I would much rather pay $100 to go from 30 min to 15 min (a >net savings of 15 minutes), than pay $100 to go from 8x to 16x >(from 8 min to 4 min, for a net savings of 4 minutes). I have >a 20x CD-ROM reader right now, and I frankly don't see the >point in upgrading it to 32x or 40x or whatever the latest >speed is, because 20x is already plenty fast enough. The >biggest difference in wait times is at the low speeds. Depending on what and how much data you are reading, you might actually be better off with a "slower" CD drive (like a 4x or 8x). The faster drives (24x, 32x, 40x) take much longer to "get up to speed" than the slower drives. So if you are reading a small amount of data on an infrequent basis, a slower drive is better. On the other hand, if you're installing software (like Microsoft Office or Visual Studio), then the faster drive is better. And finally, it should be obvious that if you're playing audio CDs, the speed doesn't matter. -- David Goldman From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 8 03:43:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA12107 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 03:43:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15890; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 03:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 8 Jan 1999 03:40:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15691; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 03:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15671; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 03:40:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p28.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.43]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA06771; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 00:31:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901080831.AAA06771@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "shelby@netten.net" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 08 Jan 99 00:39:24 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Win 98 List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 19:05:49 -0600, shelby@netten.net wrote: >Hi, Can someone tell me if Win 98 for my IBM 760ED Thinkpad would be >proprietary or if I can just by any standard upgrade. Right now I am using >Win98 beta 3. It expired 12/31/98. > It doesn't care, use a standard upgrade. Though in your case, you'll probably have to use either the upgrade CD-ROM, or deltree \windows and use the full version CD-ROM. I just bought an HP Pavilion for DVD, and ended up having to erase Win95 to use my Win98 full version CD-ROM. The only proprietary things are drivers, but ThinkPads are pretty much standard (which is why I have so many). >Thanks for any thoughts on where to purchase (just any standard software >store or IBM?) Personally, I'd recommend OfficeMax (since that's where I work). It's 89 for the upgrade, 189 for the full version. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.4 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 8 03:43:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA12113 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 03:43:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16073; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 03:43:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 8 Jan 1999 03:42:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15914; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 03:42:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15891; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 03:42:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p28.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.43]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA06948 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 00:33:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901080833.AAA06948@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 08 Jan 99 00:41:56 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FS - Dock II List-Unsubscribe: I don't think I'll be using my Dock II anymore, so I'm open to offers. I'm thinking of $100 for it, with the keys. It's just too bulky, and most of my machines only need a network connection for connections to what the Dock would be used for. Please email to me, not the whole list. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.4 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 8 09:36:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA14489 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 09:36:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01254; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 09:35:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 8 Jan 1999 09:32:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00944; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 09:32:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pgh.nauticom.net (pgh.nauticom.net [198.190.226.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00932; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 09:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomscomputer (30.net8.nauticom.net [204.171.127.30]) by pgh.nauticom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA18838 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 09:07:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000301be3b14$37ff1040$ae1dfea9@tomscomputer> From: "Thomas A. Jones" To: "ThinkPad" Subject: Additional Memory for 770X Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:43:38 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I bought the 128 Memory Module for my 770X. In the IBM Packing Box, was included a floppy disk titled "ThinkPad ACP Patch for 600, 770, and 770ED". Can I assume this patch is not necessary for the 770X Model?...being that the patch is labeled as above, I'm assuming if it was meant for the 770X, it would have also appeared in the label title... Any have any knowledge on this.... Thanks... Tom Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 8 14:35:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA18363 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 14:35:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19571; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 14:33:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 8 Jan 1999 14:29:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19300; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 14:29:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19288; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 14:29:24 -0500 (EST) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 862566F3.006B58D8 ; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:32:30 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: "ThinkPad List" Message-ID: <862566F3.006A6F69.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:28:54 -0600 Subject: very slow boot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Looking at a friend's TP385CD. 2635-4y5. It has the latest BIOS flashed on it and checks out ok with the builtin tp F1 diagnostics. The problem is that any bootup (from floppy or hd) takes about 2.5 minutes to go from the memory-size screen, to the start of actually reading any drive for boot info. The F1 on powerup goes into diagnostics right away tho. The startup sequence options just shows the first floppy and then the HD. I've tried to reinitialize and redo it, but the results are the same. After it begins the boot process, everything appears to work as normal. Does anyone have any clues as to what might be wrong here? Thanks Rich From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 8 15:11:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA19012 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:11:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24045; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:08:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:08:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23937; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:08:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (phr@netcom9.netcom.com [192.100.81.119]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23906; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:07:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id MAA02935 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 12:06:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 12:06:44 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199901082006.MAA02935@netcom9.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: apologies List-Unsubscribe: From: Randal Whittle Subject: APOLOGIES!! I sincerely apologize to the list... I mis-addressed a message that was meant for a religious/political discussion list. Not meant for ThinkPads, certainly!! No problem. We're all used to religious wars about which thinkpad is the best! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 8 16:43:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA02290 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:43:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28791; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:12:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:10:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28597; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28577; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:10:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p42.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.57]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA29072; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:01:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901082101.NAA29072@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Ron Ross" , "ThinkPad" Date: Fri, 08 Jan 99 13:09:48 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: No Subject List-Unsubscribe: > My pleasure. Please let me(us) know how it turns out. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.4 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 8 16:43:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA02296 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25382; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:22:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:22:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25161; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:22:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25112; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:21:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from dan (ws-209-233-224-66.pacbell.net [209.233.224.66] (may be forged)) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.1/8.9.0/best.out) with SMTP id MAA02137 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 12:21:13 -0800 (PST) From: "Dan Galender" To: Subject: [TP770X] Question on Attaching External Monitor Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 12:21:12 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2212 (4.71.2419.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 List-Unsubscribe: I'm trying to attach my ViewSonic P815 monitor to a 770X. It works, but... 1. The colors are very splotchy and they bleed off to the right 2. When I open windows with a lot of icons in them (like the Control Panel), the color fades so that the window appears almost monochrome (black and white). I just spent over 90 minutes on the phone with IBM tech support and we ran through various display adapter settings but none offered any improvement to the monitor display. Any thoughts and help would be greatly appreciated. Best regards, -Dan Galender ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Galender Email: dan@galender.com Galender & Associates, Inc. Phone: 510/728-4700 http://www.galender.com Fax: 510/728-4701 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 8 16:55:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA02472 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:55:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01162; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:54:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:53:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01042; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01014; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:53:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic67.fbtc.net [204.2.11.67]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA12563; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:51:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00a401be3b50$aefea8e0$430b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "Randal Whittle" , "John Kim" , "TP List" Subject: Re: Internal Zip speed ?? Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:48:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: -----Original Message----- From: Randal Whittle > > As long as we're on this, do you know of a convenient/quick way to copy >lots of files from a CD to a HD and either *not* have the "Read-only" >attribute copied over or a quick way to turn that attribute off en-masse >once copied? I use dos's attrib command. I put it in c:\windows\command so it's always available. Say I copy a cd and all it's folders to a directory called abc. The I move to abc and type attrib -r -s *.*. The -r removes the read-only flag and the -s tells it to do all the subdirectories and their contents too. I hope that's a help. Barry From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 9 03:51:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA08367 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 03:51:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02456; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 03:51:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 9 Jan 1999 03:49:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02302; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 03:49:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02289; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 03:49:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp168.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.168]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id CAA02404; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 02:49:08 -0600 (CST) From: "D. Talkington" To: "Barry Marks" , "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: Internal Zip speed ?? Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 02:48:33 -0600 Message-ID: <000301be3bac$d6a1e360$215ffea9@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <00a401be3b50$aefea8e0$430b02cc@cueve> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I'm sure you've noticed your error by now, but just in case ... the command you want is attrib -r *.* /s . Your command removes the read-only and system attributes for the files in the working directory. -David > I use dos's attrib command. I put it in c:\windows\command so it's always > available. Say I copy a cd and all it's folders to a directory > called abc. > The I move to abc and type attrib -r -s *.*. The -r removes the read-only > flag and the -s tells it to do all the subdirectories and their contents > too. > > I hope that's a help. > > Barry > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 9 10:06:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA10429 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 10:06:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13872; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 10:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 9 Jan 1999 10:04:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13747; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 10:04:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13735; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 10:04:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic91.fbtc.net [204.2.11.91]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA17307; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 09:02:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401be3be0$c5f2f660$5b0b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "D. Talkington" , "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: Re: Internal Zip speed ?? Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 09:00:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I hadn't noticed that. I get that wrong whenever I type it and then I remember and I re-type it correctly. Thanks for pointing it out. Barry -----Original Message----- From: D. Talkington To: Barry Marks ; Thinkpad LISTSERV Date: Saturday, January 09, 1999 2:47 AM Subject: RE: Internal Zip speed ?? >I'm sure you've noticed your error by now, but just in case ... the command >you want is attrib -r *.* /s . Your command removes the read-only and >system attributes for the files in the working directory. > >-David > >> I use dos's attrib command. I put it in c:\windows\command so it's always >> available. Say I copy a cd and all it's folders to a directory >> called abc. >> The I move to abc and type attrib -r -s *.*. The -r removes the read-only >> flag and the -s tells it to do all the subdirectories and their contents >> too. >> >> I hope that's a help. >> >> Barry >> >> > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 9 13:59:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11971 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 13:59:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18733; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 13:33:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 9 Jan 1999 13:31:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18564; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 13:31:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18551; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 13:31:12 -0500 (EST) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 862566F4.0066048E ; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 12:34:18 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: "Dan Galender" cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <862566F4.006517F6.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 12:30:36 -0600 Subject: Re: [TP770X] Question on Attaching External Monitor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Dan, First dumb question: Does that Viewsonic work fine with another computer? Corollary question: Does another monitor exhibit the same symptoms with your laptop? What resolution and refreshrate settings are you using? If you havnt already tried, try reseating the monitor cable (at both ends) and check for pushed or bent pins. Rich I'm trying to attach my ViewSonic P815 monitor to a 770X. It works, but... 1. The colors are very splotchy and they bleed off to the right 2. When I open windows with a lot of icons in them (like the Control Panel), the color fades so that the window appears almost monochrome (black and white). I just spent over 90 minutes on the phone with IBM tech support and we ran through various display adapter settings but none offered any improvement to the monitor display. Any thoughts and help would be greatly appreciated. Best regards, -Dan Galender ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Galender Email: dan@galender.com Galender & Associates, Inc. Phone: 510/728-4700 http://www.galender.com Fax: 510/728-4701 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 9 14:32:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA12207 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:32:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20290; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:31:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:30:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20193; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:30:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from slc-smtp.utah-inter.net (slc-smtp.utah-inter.net [206.107.178.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20181; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:30:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from shelties (tc1-100.utah-inter.net [208.14.200.110]) by slc-smtp.utah-inter.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA110; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 12:30:03 -0700 Message-Id: <4.1.19990109120340.00b46100@utah-inter.net> X-Sender: jimmelton@utah-inter.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 12:11:32 -0700 To: "Dan Galender" From: Jim Melton Subject: Re: [TP770X] Question on Attaching External Monitor Cc: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Dan, I presently have a ThinkPad 760ED that, when I'm not traveling, runs in a Dock II docking station. When I first got this system, I got a ViewSonic P815 and encountered problems very similar to the problems you identified: certain (but *perhaps* not all) colors "streaked" towards the right of the screen, and colors fading when I had loads of different colors in a window (e.g., a Paint window or a window with many icons). I contacted IBM about this and got no help at all; they said that it must be a bad monitor. I contacted ViewSonic about it and got no help at all; they said that the video card was bad. I tried three different sets of video cables, to no avail. I finally managed to get my company's support organization (contractor, in fact) to pay attention to it. They worked with me for several weeks, replacing the ThinkPad's video chip (I assume that means "replacing the mother board") once and replacing the ViewSonic monitor once. No change in the problem...*no change*, neither better nor worse. I tried the monitor on 2 other computers (neither of them a ThinkPad) and it did not exhibit the problem on either one. I tried three other monitors on the ThinkPad (none of them a ViewSonic) and they did not exhibit the problem. I did try one other ViewSonic model, but I don't recall which one (P8xx, I think), and it had virtually the same problem with minor differences. I tried a large variety of resolutions and scan rates, with no satisfactory changes to the problem. I finally replaced the ViewSonic with an NEC MultiSync P1150 and have been terrifically happy with the combination since. My final conclusion is that ViewSonics and ThinkPads are incompatible for reasons nobody has figured out and published. Based on my experience, I would suspect that you will not resolve this problem. I probably used up 30 hours of my own time and perhaps 20 hours of other experts' time without resolution. Sorry for bad news! Jim ======================================================================== Jim Melton --- Editor of ISO/IEC 9075-* Phone: +1.801.942.0144 [currently unaligned] Email: mailto:jim.melton@?????????? 1930 Viscounti Drive Personal email: mailto:jim.melton@acm.org Sandy, UT 84093-1063 Fax : +1.801.942.3345 USA ======================================================================== = Facts are facts. However, any opinions expressed are the opinions = = only of myself and may or may not reflect the opinions of anybody = = else with whom I may or may not have discussed the issues at hand. = ======================================================================== From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 9 15:35:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA12603 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 15:35:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22129; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 15:34:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 9 Jan 1999 15:32:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21985; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 15:32:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from sarah.albany.edu (sarah.albany.edu [169.226.1.103]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21973; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 15:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp.binghamton.edu (190.new-york-20-25rs.ny.dial-access.att.net [12.79.50.190]) by sarah.albany.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA24671 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 15:32:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Ken's E-mail Client 1998 Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 23:29:49 -0500 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [TP770ED] Got IR port working, but it's slow Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: After months of owning this 770ED, (w/ Win95 OSR2) I got the IR port to work with someone else's computer. I don't have LapLink, or PC Anywhere, and Intellisynch doesn't seem very useful since nobody else without a Thinkpad will have it (and it doesn't let me make build an installation disk for it, either). IPX is a consistently poor performer on my machine, for some reason. So, what I've had to do is run Direct Cable Connection, treating the IR port as a serial port, configure TCP/IP, and then run an FTP server on one machine and an FTP client on the other. My speeds are averaging about 75000 bits per second. (Compare to the 32000 bits per second I get with the v.90 modem and a supposedly v.90 provider.) Better than phones, sure... ...but, really, it's supposed to be faster than this. I know that the technical upper speed of the IR is supposed to be 1,150,000 bps (bits?). Clearly, I'm nowhere near that. The IR of the other laptop being used is a 4Mbps. I'm also using the Win95 fix for the Infrared.inf and ports.inf that Robert Karp provided. (Thanks!) Ideas? Thank you. Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 9 16:34:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA13028 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 16:34:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23936; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 16:33:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 9 Jan 1999 16:32:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23811; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 16:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23799; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 16:32:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic78.fbtc.net [204.2.11.78]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA03218; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 15:30:54 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002801be3c16$fc919920$4e0b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "Dan Galender" , Subject: Re: [TP770X] Question on Attaching External Monitor Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 15:28:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Have you tried calling Viewsonic? Barry -----Original Message----- From: Dan Galender To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Friday, January 08, 1999 2:21 PM Subject: [TP770X] Question on Attaching External Monitor >I'm trying to attach my ViewSonic P815 monitor to a 770X. It works, but... > > 1. The colors are very splotchy and they bleed off to the right > > 2. When I open windows with a lot of icons in them (like the Control >Panel), the color fades so that the window appears almost monochrome (black >and white). > >I just spent over 90 minutes on the phone with IBM tech support and we ran >through various display adapter settings but none offered any improvement to >the monitor display. > >Any thoughts and help would be greatly appreciated. > > >Best regards, > >-Dan Galender > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- >Dan Galender Email: dan@galender.com >Galender & Associates, Inc. Phone: 510/728-4700 >http://www.galender.com Fax: 510/728-4701 > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 9 17:03:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA13220 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 17:03:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25051; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 17:02:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 9 Jan 1999 17:02:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24957; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 17:02:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from onlink4.onlink.net (onlink4.onlink.net [206.108.253.68]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24927; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 17:01:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from nrba2-11.onlink.net (nrba2-11.onlink.net [207.210.99.140]) by onlink4.onlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA50464 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 17:01:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199901092201.RAA50464@onlink4.onlink.net> From: "Alex Bell" To: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 16:46:11 +0000 Reply-To: "Alex Bell" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Alternative to Enhanced Port Replicator for 385XD? List-Unsubscribe: Is there any alternative to the Enhanced Port Replicator for a Thinkpad 385XD? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 9 19:23:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA14336 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 19:23:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29744; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 19:21:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 9 Jan 1999 19:20:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29644; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 19:20:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29632; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 19:20:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from leland.stanford.edu (Banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.64.168.119]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8/L) with ESMTP id QAA24374 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 16:20:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3697F277.CDD4204F@leland.stanford.edu> Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 16:21:11 -0800 From: Benjamin Koh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: Alternative to Enhanced Port Replicator for 385XD? References: <199901092201.RAA50464@onlink4.onlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Extended Systems makes 3rd party replicators. Some of their models fit Thinkpads. However I don't think they have a model that includes PC Card slots. They do have one that includes 10 Mbs Ethernet though. Also check online auctions - both Extended Systems and IBM replicators are often up for grabs. Benjamin Alex Bell wrote: > > Is there any alternative to the Enhanced Port Replicator for a Thinkpad > 385XD? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 10 03:49:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA18314 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 03:49:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10818; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 03:48:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 10 Jan 1999 03:47:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10725; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 03:47:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10713; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 03:47:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p13.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.28]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA25713; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 00:44:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901100844.AAA25713@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "David Ross" Date: Sun, 10 Jan 99 00:46:49 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 1410 problems, less-than-great IBM service List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:21:50 -1000, David Ross wrote: >Me: >>>I think Airborne (wo ships the boxes) is having trouble because of the > >Paul: >>Actually, it is FedEx who ships the boxes. > > >Apparently no longer. I now have 3 boxes from Airborne to prove it. How unusual. I like FedEx, but they're expensive. I also like UPS. I don't care for RPS, and I hate Airborne, because they don't seem to always be on time. > >BTW, the box design seems to have changed - no longer the nifty stretch-tight >cradle. > They haven't had that for a while. Now it's an assemble yourself deal. >- David R. > > > Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Proudly using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3/2.4, Mac OS 7.5.3, Windows NT 4.0, and Newton OS 2.0 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 10 04:25:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA18515 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:25:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12250; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:25:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:24:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12156; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:24:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from microdin.ru (jumbo.microdin.ru [195.128.73.200]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12142; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:23:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from shultz (dial-up105.microdin.ru [195.128.72.105]) by microdin.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA19252 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:23:48 +0300 (????) 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------=_NextPart_000_0058_01BE3C83.64CA1460-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 10 11:16:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA21041 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24811; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:15:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:13:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24653; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:13:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24637; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:13:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [194.222.39.203] (helo=ddwyer.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 0zzNUR-0003BN-00 for THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:13:32 +0000 Message-ID: <3462YFAVTJm2Ewkt@ddwyer.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:53:57 +0000 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Doug Dwyer Subject: 750CS Batteries MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 4.01 List-Unsubscribe: Recent purchase, reinstalled win 95, battery charges externally but not when in place is this most likely to be a hardware or software problem? -- Doug Dwyer From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 10 14:37:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA23236 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:37:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29377; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:36:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:35:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29249; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:35:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from sarah.albany.edu (sarah.albany.edu [169.226.1.103]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29232; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:35:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp.binghamton.edu (79.new-york-01-02rs.ny.dial-access.att.net [12.78.192.79]) by sarah.albany.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA12382 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:35:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901101935.OAA12382@sarah.albany.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Ken's E-mail Client 1998 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:33:48 -0500 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [TP770ED] IR slow even with LapLink95; 115200 listed as top speed in panel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Update to my previous inquiry about my 115000kbps limit of my IR port: I'm now using LapLink95 (cute, somewhat useful, but annoying: Can't drag new files to transfer when a transfer is already in progress, and also it slows my sending computer down tremendously during a send, even with the "compression" option off). Anyway, my transfer rates are the same as when I was using Direct Cable Connection and an FTP server: Average 88000 bits per second. According to the Infrared Control Panel (Win95 OSR2), "applications support provided on COM4" (and LPTsomething). In Device Manager, Modem, Serial cable on COM4, Properties, Modem tab, the Port is "Virtual Infrared COM port", but the Maximum speed tops at 115200. Is this my limiting factor? Seems that this setting might be used/obeyed for infrared communication. Why is the top value so low (as if it's an actual cable connection)? Do I need a different driver? I can't find anywhere to change anything else on the whole system. Any suggestions to making my infrared port go faster than an 80Kbps modem (if they could exist) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 10 14:38:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA23261 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:38:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29638; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:38:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:37:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29506; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:37:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from sarah.albany.edu (sarah.albany.edu [169.226.1.103]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29472; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:37:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp.binghamton.edu (79.new-york-01-02rs.ny.dial-access.att.net [12.78.192.79]) by sarah.albany.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA12423 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:37:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901101937.OAA12423@sarah.albany.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Ken's E-mail Client 1998 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:35:57 -0500 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [TP770ED] IR addition: Listed as 921600 elsewhere, still slow Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Really sorry for not including this in the previous posting, but: In Device Manager, Ports, Built-in Infrared port on laptop or desktop (COM1), Port Settings, the Bits per second is set to the maximum (921600) already, so if anyone was thinking of suggesting that I raise it here, that doesn't seem to be the problem either. Thanks again, Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 10 15:24:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA23681 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:24:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01218; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:23:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:22:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01118; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:22:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from glacier.binc.net (glacier.binc.net [205.173.176.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01105; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:22:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from rkarp (msn-1-13.x2.binc.net [198.70.31.13]) by glacier.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA11336; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:22:39 -0600 Message-ID: <001001be3cd6$f8f00520$0d1f46c6@rkarp> From: "Robert J. Karp" To: "Ken" Cc: "ThinkPad Users Group" Subject: Re: [TP770ED] IR slow even with LapLink95; 115200 listed as top speed in panel Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:22:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: You've encountered a limit within Win95. The only support for 4Mbs IR speed I've seen is with Win98 and then only by using Win98's built-in Infrared File Transfer program. Using DCC over IR (which you cannot do at all on Win98) you'll always hit the limit you've been describing. At least, that's been my experience. You can add the Infrared File Transfer program to Win95 and can try that if you like. I'm not sure it will increase your transfer rate but it's worth a shot. It doesn't rely upon emulation of a serial port the way that DCC does. Still, I don't believe that Win95's IR drivers support anything greater than 115Kbs (as you've learned the hard way, Win95 must treat the IR device as if it were a physical COM port). (Please don't ask where the File Transfer program is located on MSFT's site ... I looked for it briefly and didn't find it but I'm sure it's stil there somewhere.) -----Original Message----- From: Ken To: Thinkpad Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 1:37 PM Subject: [TP770ED] IR slow even with LapLink95; 115200 listed as top speed in panel >Update to my previous inquiry about my 115000kbps limit of my IR port: > >I'm now using LapLink95 (cute, somewhat useful, but annoying: Can't drag >new files to transfer when a transfer is already in progress, and also it >slows my sending computer down tremendously during a send, even with the >"compression" option off). Anyway, my transfer rates are the same as when >I was using Direct Cable Connection and an FTP server: Average 88000 bits >per second. > >According to the Infrared Control Panel (Win95 OSR2), "applications support >provided on COM4" (and LPTsomething). In Device Manager, Modem, Serial >cable on COM4, Properties, Modem tab, the Port is "Virtual Infrared COM >port", but the Maximum speed tops at 115200. > >Is this my limiting factor? Seems that this setting might be used/obeyed >for infrared communication. Why is the top value so low (as if it's an >actual cable connection)? Do I need a different driver? I can't find >anywhere to change anything else on the whole system. > >Any suggestions to making my infrared port go faster than an 80Kbps modem >(if they could exist) would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Ken >kenzo@free-music.com > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 10 17:25:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA25087 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:25:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05366; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:23:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:21:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05094; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:21:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05081; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:21:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.53.205]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990110222058.GOOA25403@770>; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:20:58 +0000 Message-ID: <003e01be3ce7$dd8a68a0$cd354f0c@770> From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "ThinkPad Users Group" Cc: "ThinkPad Users Group" Subject: TP770ED - anuyone got the video phone working? Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:23:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: I plugged a camera into the Video/MPEG in adaptor, but the program won't see it? How does one connect a camera to get local video? Do you need a special camera, or need to plug it in somewhere special? Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Robert J. Karp To: Ken Cc: ThinkPad Users Group From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 10 19:38:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA26343 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:38:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09538; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:37:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:35:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09427; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:35:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09412; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:35:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ordig696 (slip129-37-165-231.pq.ca.ibm.net [129.37.165.231]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA40910 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:35:49 GMT Message-ID: <001e01be3cfa$9cb068d0$e7a52581@ordig696> Reply-To: "pkvp Hamelin" From: "pkvp Hamelin" To: "ThinkPad" Subject: unsubscribe Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:37:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01BE3CD0.B1E34BC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BE3CD0.B1E34BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe leham@ibm.net=20 This message was sent from another account. 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------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BE3CD0.B1E34BC0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 10 23:29:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA28896 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:29:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15363; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:27:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:26:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15202; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:26:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15182; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:25:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp172.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.172]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id WAA12370 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:25:54 -0600 (CST) From: "D. Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: [TP770ED] IR addition: Listed as 921600 elsewhere, still slow Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:25:05 -0600 Message-ID: <000101be3d1a$5d8cb8a0$8bfdfea9@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199901101937.OAA12423@sarah.albany.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Not to dodge the issue, but LapLink supports parallel-port transfers, does it not? You'd get at least 4 times the serial transfer rate by going that route, if you're just looking for the fastest way to accomplish the task without spending money on NICs. Just a thought . -d David Talkington User Support Prairienet / Community Networking Initiative 244-1962 dtalk@prairienet.org ********************************************************** My words are my own, and represent those of a grouch. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken [mailto:kenzo@free-music.com] > Sent: Sunday, 10 January, 1999 1:36 PM > To: Thinkpad > Subject: [TP770ED] IR addition: Listed as 921600 elsewhere, still slow > > > Really sorry for not including this in the previous posting, but: > > In Device Manager, Ports, Built-in Infrared port on laptop or desktop > (COM1), Port Settings, the Bits per second is set to the maximum (921600) > already, so if anyone was thinking of suggesting that I raise it > here, that > doesn't seem to be the problem either. > > Thanks again, > > Ken > kenzo@free-music.com > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 11 00:43:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA29490 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:43:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23657; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:41:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:39:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22895; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:39:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22613; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:38:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-169.usc.edu [128.125.224.169]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id VAA23665; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:38:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990110213530.00b38ae0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:38:14 -0800 To: "D. Talkington" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: RE: [TP770ED] IR addition: Listed as 921600 elsewhere, still slow In-Reply-To: <000101be3d1a$5d8cb8a0$8bfdfea9@tigger> References: <199901101937.OAA12423@sarah.albany.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:25 PM 1/10/99 -0600, you wrote: >Not to dodge the issue, but LapLink supports parallel-port transfers, does >it not? You'd get at least 4 times the serial transfer rate by going that >route, if you're just looking for the fastest way to accomplish the task >without spending money on NICs. As you say, that's sort of dodging the issue (assuming he doesn't want to mess with cables--the whole point of IR). But...the larger point is Fast IR's speed is 4 Mbps. If I'm not mistaken, that's a fair bit faster than a parallel cable. I presume that's at least part of what he's going for. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 11 03:14:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA00623 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:14:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04138; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:12:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03997; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:12:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.bctel.ca (nfs1.bctel.ca [207.194.28.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03966; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:12:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from defiant (00-00-86-1d-bf-b1.bconnected.net [209.53.10.22]) by mail1.bctel.ca with SMTP id AAA19083; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:12:07 -0800 (PST) From: "Ryan Hung" To: "Randal Whittle" , "D. Talkington" , "TP List" Subject: RE: [TP770ED] IR addition: Listed as 921600 elsewhere, still slow Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:12:18 -0800 Message-ID: <000501be3d3a$1b4ed020$160a35d1@defiant.bconnected.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990110213530.00b38ae0@rcf.usc.edu> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Hmm. In my Infrared Monitor, it provides application support on both a serial port and a parallel port. I haven't actually tried it, but I wonder if LapLink would support using the IR parallel port device? Ryan. > -----Original Message----- > From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@usa.net] > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 1999 9:38 PM > To: D. Talkington; TP List > Subject: RE: [TP770ED] IR addition: Listed as 921600 elsewhere, still > slow > > > At 10:25 PM 1/10/99 -0600, you wrote: > >Not to dodge the issue, but LapLink supports parallel-port > transfers, does > >it not? You'd get at least 4 times the serial transfer rate by > going that > >route, if you're just looking for the fastest way to accomplish the task > >without spending money on NICs. > > As you say, that's sort of dodging the issue (assuming he > doesn't want to > mess with cables--the whole point of IR). > > But...the larger point is Fast IR's speed is 4 Mbps. If > I'm not mistaken, > that's a fair bit faster than a parallel cable. I presume that's at least > part of what he's going for. > > - Randy Whittle > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 11 05:42:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA01562 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:41:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA13718; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:39:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:37:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA13573; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:37:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix1.seitz.de (unix1.seitz.de [193.102.72.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA13546; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:36:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from seitz.de (hostII11.sparkasse-pforzheim.de [194.174.83.43]) by unix1.seitz.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA6C48 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:34:35 +0100 Message-ID: <3699D3DC.9A84BCB3@seitz.de> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:35:08 +0100 From: "Adnan Mumbasic" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: DVD-SCSI Problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id FAA13718 Hello, after installing a SCSI PCMCIA card from Panasonic SoftDVD crashes.=20 I=B4m not sure if Panasonics SCSI PCMCIA card is really from Panasonic.=20 Have anyone a similiar problem? Greetings Adnan Mumbasic From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 11 06:44:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA01916 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:44:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA15161; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:37:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:35:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA15037; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:35:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from glacier.binc.net (glacier.binc.net [205.173.176.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA15025; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:35:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from rkarp (msn-1-3.x2.binc.net [198.70.31.3]) by glacier.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id FAA03278; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:35:04 -0600 Message-ID: <001401be3d56$6fa33000$031f46c6@rkarp> From: "Robert J. Karp" To: "Ryan Hung" Cc: "ThinkPad Users Group" Subject: Re: [TP770ED] IR addition: Listed as 921600 elsewhere, still slow Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:35:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Won't work ... the IR virtual parallel port is unidirectional only. -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Hung To: Randal Whittle ; D. Talkington ; TP List Date: Monday, January 11, 1999 2:13 AM Subject: RE: [TP770ED] IR addition: Listed as 921600 elsewhere, still slow >Hmm. In my Infrared Monitor, it provides application support on both a >serial port and a parallel port. I haven't actually tried it, but I wonder >if LapLink would support using the IR parallel port device? > > Ryan. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@usa.net] >> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 1999 9:38 PM >> To: D. Talkington; TP List >> Subject: RE: [TP770ED] IR addition: Listed as 921600 elsewhere, still >> slow >> >> >> At 10:25 PM 1/10/99 -0600, you wrote: >> >Not to dodge the issue, but LapLink supports parallel-port >> transfers, does >> >it not? You'd get at least 4 times the serial transfer rate by >> going that >> >route, if you're just looking for the fastest way to accomplish the task >> >without spending money on NICs. >> >> As you say, that's sort of dodging the issue (assuming he >> doesn't want to >> mess with cables--the whole point of IR). >> >> But...the larger point is Fast IR's speed is 4 Mbps. If >> I'm not mistaken, >> that's a fair bit faster than a parallel cable. I presume that's at least >> part of what he's going for. >> >> - Randy Whittle >> > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 11 06:57:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA01980 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA15847; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:53:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:52:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA15711; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:52:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA15699; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:52:40 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from John560e@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 1DDHa27801 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:52:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:52:05 EST To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: 770 20X DVD-ROM (NEW) for $79.00 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 List-Unsubscribe: PC Mall is selling the THINKPAD 770 20X DVD-ROM (P/N 11J8950) for $79.00 plus @$9.00 shipping at: http://www.cc-inc.com/home.asp?bounce=%2Fsales%2Fdetail%2Easp%3FDPNo%3D15694 The price elsewhere is @$305.00+: http://www.shopper.com/prdct/132/661.html NOTE: DVD ENHANCED VIDEO ADAPTER (P/N 11J8957) @$200 is still required to play movies. I don't plan to use it to watch movies, but at that price I got one as a spare CD-ROM. FYI ... John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 11 08:40:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA02450 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19185; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:38:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:37:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19069; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:37:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix1.seitz.de (unix1.seitz.de [193.102.72.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19019; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:35:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from seitz.de (hostII11.sparkasse-pforzheim.de [194.174.83.43]) by unix1.seitz.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA19B for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:34:19 +0100 Message-ID: <3699FDFC.240B03A3@seitz.de> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:34:52 +0100 From: "Adnan Mumbasic" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: DVD-SCSI Problem References: <3699D3DC.9A84BCB3@seitz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id IAA19185 Problem solved! I have downloaded aspi.exe from adaptec and this tool updated some drivers, now DVD works, SCSI has to be tested. Adnan Mumbasic Adnan Mumbasic wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > after installing a SCSI PCMCIA card from Panasonic SoftDVD crashes. > I=B4m not sure if Panasonics SCSI PCMCIA card is really from Panasonic. > Have anyone a similiar problem? >=20 > Greetings >=20 > Adnan Mumbasic From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 11 11:47:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA04173 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:47:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29925; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:44:15 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29740; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:44:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id LAA21055 for dist-thinkpad; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:44:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04941; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from Sierpinski.logic by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA22288; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:24:44 -1000 Message-ID: <009901be3d3b$c2463b60$0200a8c0@Sierpinski.logic> From: "David Ross" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: [TPall] Strange Easy-Serve experience Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:24:06 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: FYI, here's a chronology of my latest Easy-Serve experience, with some really odd twists. This post is long, but there's a payoff at the end:-) *Dec. 31: I pack my 560 in its Wetsuit, pack the Wetsuit in a suitcase, carry the suitcase on a plane (overhead bin, well packed with jackets) *Jan 1: Arrive in California, remove Wetsuit from suitcase, remove 560, see that the plastic on the upper frame (where the latch grabs) has shattered for no apparent reason. Recalling the recent discussion on this list w/r plastic repairs, I don't think I'll call IBM. However, my wife points out that the damage is not purely cosmetic (the latch will no longer function), and urges me to call. I do so. ODD TWIST #1: I got this machine in Spring '97, so the 1-year warrantee should be well over; I did buy a 2-year extended warrantee. The fellow at IBM tells me that, according to his computer, I'm still covered under the *original* Easy-serve warrantee. Strange. I describe the problem in detail to him, and am assured that I am covered. I express concern at the time frame (we have tickets to England for Jan 12), and he says that they'll get a box to me "tomorrow [Saturday], and the machine should be back to you repaired by Thursday" *Jan 2: No box. *Jan 3: No box. *Jan 4, AM: No box. I call IBM, they say they'll fax Airborne and get me a box "this afternoon for sure" *Jan 4, PM: No box. *Jan 5: I phone again, and am told they'll try again. *Jan 6, AM: Still no box. I phone again - a little worried now - and am promised a box. *Jan 6, PM: 2 boxes arrive. I use one to send the machine back. *Jan 7: Another box arrives. I call IBM to see how the repair is coming. I'm told to phone "billing, to hear the estimate." Estimate? I phone billing, estimate is $350. I point out that I was told the repair was covered, billing says that the people who arrange the repairs don't know what is or isn't covered. Can I talk to a manager? No, I can "elevate" the case but it will take 72 hours before I hear anything. This is not consistent with my imminent departure, or course. I call "IBM Complaints". The person I speak to is very nice, and says she'll do what she can, but in fact has no authority. Another IBM person calls me to tell me that there's nothing I can do, and (ODD TWIST #2) if I want my machine back unrepaired it will be 3-4 days. >From now on I introduce the term "kidnapping" into every conversation I have with an IBM person. ODD TWIST #3: I speak to yet another person who says that if the latch is truly broken it should be covered, but then she calls me back to say that this only holds for the latch part, not the part it latches onto. I reach someone who says that they will send the machine ASAP. BTW, I have now spoken to at least 10 people at 5 different toll-free numbers, in addition to which IBM has tried to call me at several different phone numbers, many of which I gave them at no point in this transaction - they have apparently pulled numbers of my former residences from old files. *Jan 8: (ODD TWIST # 4, and payoff) Machine arrives home in PM. The plastic is still broken. HOWEVER: I now have a new screen and new keyboard, neither of which I asked for. (At first I thought they'd just done a very good job of cleaning them, but for various reasons it is obvious that they were in fact replaced.) If I weren't going to be out of the country for so long, I'd probably continue to push on the plastic repair (after all, a latch is clearly functional, not cosmetic), and I might continue anyway. Frankly, I would be less annoyed had they just told me on the first call that the repair wouldn't be covered. However, it is hard to get too angry at a company which invests so much energy in refusing an inexpensive plastic repair, but offers up, unsolicited, two new, relatively expensive, components. Sometimes IBM is a very mysterious entity. Regards all, David R. (still ross@math.hawaii.edu, through the miracle of IMAP:-) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 11 12:28:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA04566 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:28:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02352; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:22:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:21:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02241; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:21:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from docws002.shl.com (docws002.shl.com [159.249.56.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02228; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:21:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com (ottmsooc01.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.24]) by docws002.shl.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16438 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:41:24 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199901111741.KAA16438@docws002.shl.com> Received: by ottmsooc01.ooc.shl.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:19:49 -0500 From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: 340 max memory ? Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:21:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Folks, Office 97 is choking on my 340 (4 MB + 4 MB = 8MB RAM). I know I can get an 8 MB RAM "credit card" for the 340, but the docs indicate that that's the max. Has anyone tried a 16 MB "credit card" in a 340? I gather it takes the same format as the 355, 360, etc. Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect Ottawa Global Delivery Centre, SHL Systemhouse an MCI WorldCom Company :^*+1 613 236-6604x5539 fax:232-5182:^* *^} ttrottier@shl.com http://www.shl.com *^} *:)50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada*:) ~Questions answered, answers questioned~ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 11 13:28:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA05330 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:28:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05884; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:21:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:20:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05750; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:20:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from out4.ibm.net (out4.ibm.net [165.87.194.239]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05731; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad (slip-32-100-39-27.nj.us.ibm.net [32.100.39.27]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA129394 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:19:58 GMT Message-ID: <001101be3d8e$ff728c20$1b276420@thinkpad> From: "Donald Mak" To: "Thinkpad" Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:19:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE3D65.14D75480" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE3D65.14D75480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am missing one of the "screw covers" on a thinkpad 770. It is the = plastic seal that covers the many screw on the case. Does anyone have a = part number for this? Is it available without having to purchase the = complete screw kit? Don ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE3D65.14D75480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am missing one of the "screw covers" on = a thinkpad=20 770. It is the plastic seal that covers the many screw on the case. Does = anyone=20 have a part number for this? Is it available without having to purchase = the=20 complete screw kit?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE3D65.14D75480-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 11 14:13:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA06058 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:13:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09127; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:12:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:11:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09005; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:11:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.243]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08988; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:10:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from slip139-92-52-19.vi.at.ibm.net (slip139-92-52-19.vi.at.ibm.net [139.92.52.19]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA129226 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:10:46 GMT Message-Id: <199901111910.TAA129226@out5.ibm.net> From: "Siegfried Hanisch" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:10:15 +0200 Reply-To: "Siegfried Hanisch" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Memory upgrade 760 - 770 List-Unsubscribe: Hi I have a TP760EL with 2x32MB RAM expansion. I will get a new 770 now. Can I use the 2 32MB modules with the new machine? Greetings # Quick to judge Siegfried Hanisch # Quick to anger =====================================# Slow to understand siegfried.hanisch@ibm.net # Ignorance and prejudice ssaver@ibm.net (ScreenSaver support) # And fear =====================================# Walk hand in hand http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8925811/ # Rush - "Witch Hunt" PGP public key available # Team OS/2 # From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 11 14:30:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA06307 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:30:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10351; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:29:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:27:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10222; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:27:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10209; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:27:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:27:06 -0500 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-12.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id OAA26865; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:26:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <369A5067.77ED299B@csc.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:26:31 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Siegfried Hanisch CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Memory upgrade 760 - 770 References: <199901111910.TAA129226@out5.ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: It depends on which version of the 770 you are getting. Some of the earlier 770s could take either type of memory, although it is recommended not to mix the types. When I got my 770 (9548-30U, a P233MMX with 13.3"LCD) last year I was able to migrate my 32MB EDO memory module from a 760EL to it. Best bet is to call IBM support (800-772-2227) and ask them. They told me just to try it: if it booted and recognized it things were fine - if it didn't see it or locked up then don't use it. They told me no damage could come from this test. I would think the newer 770s (X, E, ED) probably have different internals and may not be compatible. HTH, Rob Siegfried Hanisch wrote: > > Hi > > I have a TP760EL with 2x32MB RAM expansion. > I will get a new 770 now. > Can I use the 2 32MB modules with the new machine? > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 11 15:51:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA07298 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:51:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15219; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:49:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:47:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15021; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:47:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:0@merkez.cypronet.net [193.192.125.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14982; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:46:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from ip-193-192-124-31.cypronet.net (ip-193-192-124-31.cypronet.net [193.192.124.31]) by localhost.localdomain (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA26313; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:05:12 +0200 Message-Id: <199901112105.XAA26313@localhost.localdomain> From: "Thom Parkhill" To: "jeffj@ro.com" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:44:31 +0200 (EET) Reply-To: "Thom Parkhill" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [tp380d] keyboard lockup update List-Unsubscribe: You may remember that I reported a keyboard lockup when typing quickly and bumping the trackpoint. You may remember that Randy Whittle's genial offhand remark about Warp choking on a simple keyboard trap nearly started another round of OS wars. The solution to my problem came from Jeff Jackowski and I report it here in part to highlight its pure simplicity and in part to vindicate Warp. Unfortunately this has the side effect of revealing to the thinkpad world that I'm a dolt, but sometimes we have to suffer for our operating system.... So, if you've a ThinkPad and are running Warp 4 and you are a fumblebum typist who occasionally bumps the trackpoint and your keyboard locks up and just beeps at you ... tap the Shift-key a couple of times. That should do it. Try the Ctrl- and Alt-keys if that doesn't work, but so far the Shift-key tap solution has worked for me. I can also report that slamming either the keyboard or one's forehead does not work. I hope this helps some other unfortunate dolt... Thom. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 11 18:42:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA09597 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:42:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24686; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:41:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:38:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24458; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:38:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.its.rpi.edu (root@mail1.its.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24435; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:38:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from k2 (resnet-1875.dynamic.rpi.edu [128.113.183.197]) by mail1.its.rpi.edu (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA196906 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:39:37 -0500 From: "A Kumar" To: Subject: 600- EasyServe didn't realy fix Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:38:21 -0500 Message-ID: <005201be3cf2$4effed20$c5b77180@k2.dynamic.rpi.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I have had a 600 since August during that time: 1) The paint on the palmrest and speaker grill started peeling 2) My '[{' broke 3) The screen started going out and only coming back on if I hit the side 4) Two dead pixels appeared Talked to IBM Friday before last explained what was wrong including dead pixels IBM tech support guy said all would be fixed. So I got the Easy Serve box on Monday sent out the computer on Tuesday and got computer back on Friday. But they didn't fix everything they replaced keyboard and keyboard cover, but not speaker grill. They say they replaced video cable, but screen still goes out and they didn't replace screen, like the IBM guy said they would. Now they want me to send the computer back, but I'm in college and have classes the absolutely require the computer! Anyone have any suggestions? The screen goes out more and more often and it is getting harder to bring it back. I also checked out local repair centers but they want at least two working days. Any chance of IBM sending me a new shell? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 11 21:11:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA11491 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:11:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00396; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:09:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:08:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00272; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00243; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:08:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (p02.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.17]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA08517; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:04:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901120204.SAA08517@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "David Ross" Date: Mon, 11 Jan 99 18:07:36 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TPall] Strange Easy-Serve experience List-Unsubscribe: >Sometimes IBM is a very mysterious entity. > You're telling me. Yeah, that sounds EXACTLY like IBM. Fortunatlely, they resolved it quickly for me, but I guess they didn't do that for you. Maybe tell them your lawyer will call them so they know you're serious. Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Currently using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3/2.4, Windows NT 4.0, and Windows 98 on my network. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 11 22:14:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA12433 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:14:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02876; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:13:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:13:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02759; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02747; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:12:58 -0500 (EST) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 862566F7.0011F50C ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:16:08 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: "Donald Mak" cc: "Thinkpad" Message-ID: <862566F7.0010D3AB.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:12:32 -0600 Subject: Re: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: How about using a hole punch on some clear-packing or black-gaffers tape, to create your own cover? Rich I am missing one of the "screw covers" on a thinkpad 770. It is the plastic seal that covers the many screw on the case. Does anyone have a part number for this? Is it available without having to purchase the complete screw kit? Don From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 11 23:46:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA13661 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05775; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:45:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:43:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05660; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:43:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05648; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:43:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from atreyu (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id WAA11216 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:43:42 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990111223655.008c0380@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:36:55 -0600 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Ron Heiby Subject: Re: [770ED]: Are bezels available for covering battery bay and UltraBay II? In-Reply-To: <003901be399a$a5bc9920$1b276420@thinkpad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 12:33 PM 1/6/99 -0500, Don wrote: >There is a bezel available for the UltraBay. The rubber cover that comes >with the Thinkpads are a cover for the >connection port on the external FDD not the bay itself. Oops! I guess I should have looked more closely at that piece, before opining on it! I think you are right as to its purpose. Seems like kinda a waste, but I suppose if I were dragging my floppy around, I'd want that connector to be protected. The rubber probably also provides some benefits in stability on the desk and vibration dampening. Speaking of the floppy... Mine died about a week ago. Looks like the zero sensor on the head movement up and died, as the motor runs constantly under power, attempting to find track zero. Naturally, it happened at the most inconvenient time possible, when I was in Las Vegas for Consumer Electronics Show, and not when I could network to another floppy drive as needed. Of course, I phoned IBM right away, figuring that they could just ship me a replacement wherever I was. Well, they *really* don't want to ship parts to hotel rooms. But, since they couldn't come up with an alternative, they were (finally) willing to do so. Unfortunately, there were/are NO spare floppy drives for the 770ED in the United States. So, they have one coming to me from Guadelahara (sp?) Mexico. CES is over now, and I'm back home. Maybe I'll get the drive in a couple of days. When I called to change the ship-to address on Friday morning, there was a brief scare when they thought the drive was stuck in US customs and couldn't be re-routed to where I was actually going to be. Fortunately, that turned out not to be the case. Whew! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers iQA/AwUBNprRYWasl5Jijs7SEQKiNQCg6bUTwE/+MluxTTZgABI/l107uDYAoPk3 A9uHt0sp7a8EGSKl6jhShSUc =iedm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 00:28:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA14103 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:28:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07768; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:27:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:27:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07671; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:27:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07647; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:27:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad (slip-32-100-39-106.nj.us.ibm.net [32.100.39.106]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA90968; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 05:27:02 GMT Message-ID: <000401be3dec$2eb76660$6a276420@thinkpad> From: "Donald Mak" To: , "Ron Heiby" Subject: Re: [770ED]: Are bezels available for covering battery bay and UltraBay II? Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:26:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I had the same problem with my floppy were it would turn for a few minutes ad return an error message. After I added both floppy 1 and 2 to the boot up sequence it does not happen anymore. I don't know if that will actually help in your case but perhaps others have experienced this problem. The only thing I can think of is that when hooked up externally it need to be addressed as floppy 2 in the bios??? Anyone have ideas? Don -----Original Message----- From: Ron Heiby To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, January 11, 1999 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [770ED]: Are bezels available for covering battery bay and UltraBay II? >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >At 12:33 PM 1/6/99 -0500, Don wrote: >>There is a bezel available for the UltraBay. The rubber cover that comes >>with the Thinkpads are a cover for the >>connection port on the external FDD not the bay itself. > >Oops! I guess I should have looked more closely at that piece, before opining >on it! I think you are right as to its purpose. Seems like kinda a waste, but >I suppose if I were dragging my floppy around, I'd want that connector to be >protected. The rubber probably also provides some benefits in stability on the >desk and vibration dampening. > >Speaking of the floppy... > >Mine died about a week ago. Looks like the zero sensor on the head movement up >and died, as the motor runs constantly under power, attempting to find track >zero. Naturally, it happened at the most inconvenient time possible, when I >was in Las Vegas for Consumer Electronics Show, and not when I could network >to another floppy drive as needed. Of course, I phoned IBM right away, >figuring that they could just ship me a replacement wherever I was. Well, they >*really* don't want to ship parts to hotel rooms. But, since they couldn't >come up with an alternative, they were (finally) willing to do so. >Unfortunately, there were/are NO spare floppy drives for the 770ED in the >United States. So, they have one coming to me from Guadelahara (sp?) Mexico. >CES is over now, and I'm back home. Maybe I'll get the drive in a couple of >days. When I called to change the ship-to address on Friday morning, there was >a brief scare when they thought the drive was stuck in US customs and couldn't >be re-routed to where I was actually going to be. Fortunately, that turned out >not to be the case. Whew! > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 >Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers > >iQA/AwUBNprRYWasl5Jijs7SEQKiNQCg6bUTwE/+MluxTTZgABI/l107uDYAoPk3 >A9uHt0sp7a8EGSKl6jhShSUc >=iedm >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >-- >Ron. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 05:14:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA15924 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 05:14:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA15690; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 05:13:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 05:12:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA15580; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 05:12:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from deimos.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de (deimos.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.17.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA15568; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 05:12:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hal.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (hal.cl-ki.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.141.2]) by deimos.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA80980 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:12:10 +0100 Received: from localhost (krumeich@localhost) by hal.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA33514 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:12:08 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:12:08 +0100 (MET) From: Alexander Krumeich To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP600: Batteries In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi there, my TP600 behaves strangely when running on batteries. The xapm power gauge in Linux shows the energy left in battery. From a full 100% charge, the rate decreases steadily to about 30%. So far so good. However, instead of decreasing continously, the meter drops to 5% all of a sudden and I get low-battery warnings. After that, the machine has about 10 minutes of battery power left before it switches to hibernation. Since the battery in the machine is a LiIon battery, I've thought that the APM Bios can determine the amount of energy left pretty accurately. Furthermore, wasn't the great thing about LiIons that they don't have the memory effect? Can anybody explain or confirm that behaviour? Is the battery possibly broken? TIA, Alexander PS: I appreciate personal copies of your answers. -- Alexander Krumeich http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 06:50:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA16418 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 06:50:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22436; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 06:49:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 06:48:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22285; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 06:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.interlog.com (root@smtp.interlog.com [207.34.202.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22273; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 06:48:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from chamber.ca (209-20-0-172.dialin.interlog.com [209.20.0.172]) by smtp.interlog.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA05743 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 06:48:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <369B3664.1E60ED41@chamber.ca> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 06:47:48 -0500 From: Scott Campbell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Fri, 08 Jan 1999 References: X-Corel-MessageType: EMail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: We have a number of Thinkpads (a 560, two 380Ds and 6 380XDs). The 560 and 380Ds use a smaller power brick than the 380XDs. I have misplaced one of the big bricks and was wondering: Is it okay to use one of the smaller bricks on a 380XD instead of the big brick that comes with it? It seems to work fine but I am worried I am causing some long-term damage or something... Thanks in advance for any replies. scott From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 07:01:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA16475 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:01:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23055; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:00:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA22965; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:00:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from fw.saint-gobain.com (fw.saint-gobain.fr [195.115.23.181]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA22953; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:00:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by fw.saint-gobain.com; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA10356; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:04:26 +0100 Received: from [159.151.248.6] by sgsiosfc.saint-gobain.com (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/12May97-1200PM) id AA13141; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:04:46 +0100 Received: by SGSINTEX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:58:58 +0100 Message-Id: From: Mortaud Pierryck To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP600E: Automatic shutdown under windows NT 4 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:58:57 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: I look for HAL.DLL able to shutdown automaticly our TP600E under windows NT 4. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 07:12:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA16543 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:12:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23701; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:12:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:11:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23583; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:11:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (root@lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23570; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:11:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from chipie (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA12062 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:11:59 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199901121211.OAA12062@lohi.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:11:07 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: TP600E: Automatic shutdown under windows NT 4 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.52 List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 at 12:58 PM you, Mortaud Pierryck , said: >I look for HAL.DLL able to shutdown automaticly our TP600E under windows >NT 4. Why ask humans when machines can do it? http://ftpsearch.lycos.com/ will look it (and find it) for you. HTH, Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 10:22:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA18254 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:22:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02543; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:19:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:18:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02347; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:18:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02328; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:18:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls-dell-15.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA04524; Tue, 12 Jan 99 10:17:58 EST Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (gummi [18.27.0.33]) by sls-dell-15.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id KAA12884; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:17:58 -0500 (EST) Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <369B67A5.6D818D27@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:17:58 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.0-pre5-ac1 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Krumeich Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600: Batteries References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I've seen this same exact behavior with several TP600s, whether they're running Linux or Windows. In fact, I don't believe I've seen one that didn't exhibit this behavior. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 10:27:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA18310 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:27:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03116; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:25:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:25:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02985; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:25:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (erich.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02944; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:25:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from peter (142.90.100.88) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V5.1 Vn8g) with SMTP; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:24:49 -1300 From: "peter machule" To: CC: "thinkpad" Subject: Re: 770 20X DVD-ROM (NEW) for $79.00 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:24:35 -0800 Message-ID: <01be3e3f$a95c1ac0$58645a8e@peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: John , Thank you for a most informative posting. Do you by any chance know which brand and model number it is ? Teac , Sanyo etc... If I know what the OEM part number is , it "might" be possible to convert an existing TP760 series CD by gutting it and replacing it with the guts of the 770's DVD unit. It's a far shot ....(grin) But I have done similar things with the TEAC E42 ,E44, E46 series ( 2x ,4X, and 6X) cd's so it's not totally of base. If you have any other pertinent info; that would be most usefull ;-} i.e it looks like the external dimensions are: Height .79 inches Width: 5.31 inches Depth 5.89 inches But, as an example: .xx inches of that are Plastic casing etc. ..peter.. -----Original Message----- From: John560e@aol.com To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, January 11, 1999 8:53 AM Subject: 770 20X DVD-ROM (NEW) for $79.00 >PC Mall is selling the THINKPAD 770 20X DVD-ROM (P/N 11J8950) >for $79.00 plus @$9.00 shipping at: > >http://www.cc-inc.com/home.asp?bounce=%2Fsales%2Fdetail%2Easp%3FDPNo%3D15694 > >The price elsewhere is @$305.00+: > >http://www.shopper.com/prdct/132/661.html > >NOTE: DVD ENHANCED VIDEO ADAPTER (P/N 11J8957) @$200 is >still required to play movies. > >I don't plan to use it to watch movies, but at that price I got one as >a spare CD-ROM. > >FYI ... John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 10:43:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA18482 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:43:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04371; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:41:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:40:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04242; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:40:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04229; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:40:13 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from JES770@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id IJLPa23173; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:39:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:39:29 EST To: machule@triumf.ca Cc: thinkpad Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: 770 20X DVD-ROM (NEW) for $79.00 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 1/12/99 10:24:54 AM EST, machule@triumf.ca writes: > Do you by any chance know which brand and model number it is ? > Teac , Sanyo etc... No, Peter. But check this IBM TP770 Accessory site: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/TJEK-3QGU6U.html The DVD and Adapter are listed. Maybe it would be a good site to start a search. John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 11:46:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA19259 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:46:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08784; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:44:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:42:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08593; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:42:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from deimos.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de (deimos.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.17.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08574; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hal.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (hal.cl-ki.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.141.2]) by deimos.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA85740; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:41:58 +0100 Received: from localhost (krumeich@localhost) by hal.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA24954; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:41:53 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:41:53 +0100 (MET) From: Alexander Krumeich To: I Lee Hetherington cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600: Batteries In-Reply-To: <369B67A5.6D818D27@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Lee, [TP600 battery charge dropping from 30% to 5% in one instant] >I've seen this same exact behavior with several TP600s, whether they're >running Linux or Windows. In fact, I don't believe I've seen one that >didn't exhibit this behavior. So it's not only my machine that has a fault. Just out of curiosity: How do other LiIon based ThinkPad models behave? Any reasons for this? Have a nice day, Alexander -- Alexander Krumeich http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 12:09:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA19536 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:09:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09640; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:56:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:55:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09524; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:55:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09509; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (19.p1.usr01.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.166.83]) by wichita.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA20014; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:55:05 -0500 Message-ID: <369B7E69.68820A45@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:55:05 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TROTTIER, Tom" CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 340 max memory ? References: <199901111741.KAA16438@docws002.shl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Tom... i just took a look at a new price list from apricorn and they do not list the 340, BUT it most likely is the same CC DRAM memory card.. i checked with one vendor, 8meg additional IS the limit..! 8meg $98..! and that is MY cost..! p/n 07G1421 respectfully: the consensus of opinion is not printable but boils down to WHY not get a newer thinkpad..? there are MANY great deals out there.. see if you can find a decent 701C.. :-) or a 755CE which will blow the top cover off an old 340.. for not much more than a new 8meg part will cost.. TROTTIER, Tom wrote: > Folks, > Office 97 is choking on my 340 (4 MB + 4 MB = 8MB RAM). I know I can get an > 8 MB RAM "credit card" for the 340, but the docs indicate that that's the > max. Has anyone tried a 16 MB "credit card" in a 340? I gather it takes the > same format as the 355, 360, etc. > Ciao, Tom > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect > Ottawa Global Delivery Centre, > SHL Systemhouse an MCI WorldCom Company > :^*+1 613 236-6604x5539 fax:232-5182:^* > *^} ttrottier@shl.com http://www.shl.com > *^} > *:)50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada*:) > ~Questions answered, answers questioned~ -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 12:10:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA19550 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:10:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10128; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:02:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:01:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10013; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:01:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09987; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (19.p1.usr01.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.166.83]) by wichita.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA54864; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:01:46 -0500 Message-ID: <369B7FFA.2443099A@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:01:46 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donald Mak CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: References: <001101be3d8e$ff728c20$1b276420@thinkpad> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------54A798CE6888C8D2FD37636F" List-Unsubscribe: --------------54A798CE6888C8D2FD37636F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Donald.. typically, you need to buy a kit which has these and other stuff.. which one is it...? i may have some from other older tp's sitting around.. i save them, obviously.. :-) Donald Mak wrote: > I am missing one of the "screw covers" on a thinkpad 770. It is the > plastic seal that covers the many screw on the case. Does anyone have > a part number for this? Is it available without having to purchase the > complete screw kit? Don -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. --------------54A798CE6888C8D2FD37636F Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Donald..
typically, you need to buy a kit which has these and other stuff..

which one is it...?
i may have some from other older tp's sitting around..
i save them, obviously..  :-)
 

Donald Mak wrote:

 I am missing one of the "screw covers" on a thinkpad 770. It is the plastic seal that covers the many screw on the case. Does anyone have a part number for this? Is it available without having to purchase the complete screw kit? Don
 

--
Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
WEB page http://thinkpads.com
Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html
bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net
770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg),
760ED(3.0gig, 104meg),
701C(6.3gig, 40meg),
755CE(no gig, 40meg),
750C(no gig, 4meg),
IBM WorkPad(1meg)

Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a
closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home..
  --------------54A798CE6888C8D2FD37636F-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 12:18:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA19645 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:18:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10939; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:10:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:09:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10799; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:09:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm03sm.pmm.cw.net (pm03sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.152]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10787; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from tpad (usr5-dialup7.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.68.7]) by PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33506) with SMTP id <0F5G003MJIAYBW@PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:09:01 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:06:07 -0500 From: Mike Wenczel Subject: Re: TP600: Batteries To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <008e01be3e4e$c7975ef0$02006464@tpad> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal List-Unsubscribe: My 770ED does not act that way. -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Krumeich To: I Lee Hetherington Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 11:52 AM Subject: Re: TP600: Batteries >Lee, > >[TP600 battery charge dropping from 30% to 5% in one instant] > >>I've seen this same exact behavior with several TP600s, whether they're >>running Linux or Windows. In fact, I don't believe I've seen one that >>didn't exhibit this behavior. > >So it's not only my machine that has a fault. Just out of curiosity: >How do other LiIon based ThinkPad models behave? Any reasons for this? > >Have a nice day, > > Alexander > >-- >Alexander Krumeich >http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 13:14:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA20361 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:14:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14921; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:09:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14772; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:09:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from docws002.shl.com (docws002.shl.com [159.249.56.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14750; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:09:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from ottmsooc01.ott.shl.com (ottmsooc01.ooc.shl.com [159.249.112.24]) by docws002.shl.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA15830; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:29:38 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199901121829.LAA15830@docws002.shl.com> Received: by ottmsooc01.ooc.shl.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:07:45 -0500 From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: Bill Morrow Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: 340 max memory ? Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:09:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Bill, Thanks, but my wife loves it and prefers it to my 701cs. She likes having the floppy integrated. And it seems a shame to trash something that still works. Perhaps I'll try installing Linux and Star*Office. Does anyone know how well Linux and Star*Office run with 8 MB? 12 MB? On a 486/50 with 120 MB disk? Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect Ottawa Global Delivery Centre, SHL Systemhouse an MCI WorldCom Company * +1 613 236-6604x5539 fax:232-5182 * * ttrottier@shl.com * * http://www.shl.com * * 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada * ~Questions answered, answers questioned~ ---------- From: Bill Morrow [SMTP:penzance@gate.net] Sent: 1999 January 12 - Tuesday 11:55 To: TROTTIER, Tom Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 340 max memory ? Tom... i just took a look at a new price list from apricorn and they do not list the 340, BUT it most likely is the same CC DRAM memory card.. i checked with one vendor, 8meg additional IS the limit..! 8meg $98..! and that is MY cost..! p/n 07G1421 respectfully: the consensus of opinion is not printable but boils down to WHY not get a newer thinkpad..? there are MANY great deals out there.. see if you can find a decent 701C.. :-) or a 755CE which will blow the top cover off an old 340.. for not much more than a new 8meg part will cost.. TROTTIER, Tom wrote: > Folks, > Office 97 is choking on my 340 (4 MB + 4 MB = 8MB RAM). I know I can get an > 8 MB RAM "credit card" for the 340, but the docs indicate that that's the > max. Has anyone tried a 16 MB "credit card" in a 340? I gather it takes the > same format as the 355, 360, etc. > Ciao, Tom > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect > Ottawa Global Delivery Centre, > SHL Systemhouse an MCI WorldCom Company > :^*+1 613 236-6604x5539 fax:232-5182:^* > *^} ttrottier@shl.com http://www.shl.com > *^} > *:)50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada*:) > ~Questions answered, answers questioned~ -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 13:49:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA20756 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:49:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17500; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:45:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:44:16 -0500 Received: from hydra4d.cs.utk.edu (HYDRA4D.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.93]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17183; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:44:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by hydra4d.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id NAA11761 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:44:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from sh1.ro.com (IDENT:3350@sh1.ro.com [205.216.92.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11811; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jeffj@localhost) by sh1.ro.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA12042; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:20:15 -0600 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:20:14 -0600 (EST) From: Jeff Jackowski To: Alexander Krumeich cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600: Batteries In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Alexander Krumeich wrote: > Lee, > > [TP600 battery charge dropping from 30% to 5% in one instant] > > >I've seen this same exact behavior with several TP600s, whether they're > >running Linux or Windows. In fact, I don't believe I've seen one that > >didn't exhibit this behavior. > > So it's not only my machine that has a fault. Just out of curiosity: > How do other LiIon based ThinkPad models behave? Any reasons for this? I can't tell you why you are having those battery problems, but I can tell you that my 765D does not exhibit the problem. It has a pretty linear scale for the Li-ion batteries. >From what I understand, all batteries avaliable for notebook computers have the memory effect, but its not very pronounced with Li-ion batteries. I think the life span in recharges for Li-ion batteries is much shorter than for other batteries, so maybe they just don't live long enough for anyone to see the memory effect happen. Another oddity I have noticed is that one of my batteries holds about 5 to 10% more charge than the other. I got them both at the same time and have been good about alternating their use. Jeff Jackowski http://ro.com/~jeff/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 14:01:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA20889 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:01:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18207; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:53:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18097; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:53:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18084; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:53:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from holygrail (HOLYGRAIL.brightware.com [206.156.118.201]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA17111; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:52:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002a01be3e5c$beb9bef0$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Dominique Pivard" , Subject: Re: TP600E: Automatic shutdown under windows NT 4 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:52:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Perhaps you could help us with the necessary query, Dominique. I would be interested in knowing about this special HAL as well but other than the name, what else do I need to know to narrow the search? David >On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 at 12:58 PM you, Mortaud Pierryck >, said: > >>I look for HAL.DLL able to shutdown automaticly our TP600E under windows >>NT 4. > >Why ask humans when machines can do it? >http://ftpsearch.lycos.com/ will look it (and find it) for you. > >HTH, Dominique >-- >----------------------------------------------------------- >Dominique Pivard >Helsinki, Finland >----------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 16:13:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA22826 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26312; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:04:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:01:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26054; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:01:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (root@lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26038; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:01:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from chipie (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA21913; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:02:06 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199901122102.XAA21913@lohi.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:01:17 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <002a01be3e5c$beb9bef0$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> Cc: "David W. Taylor" Subject: Re: TP600E: Automatic shutdown under windows NT 4 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.52 List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 at 10:52 AM you, "David W. Taylor" , said: >Perhaps you could help us with the necessary query, Dominique. Haven't you ever used a search engine? Anyway, go to http://ftpsearch.lycos.com/, write "HAL.DLL" in the "Search for" field and press the "Search" button. You will get 15 hits. Pick up the file with the latest date stamp (25-Nov-1998), it should be good for you. >I would be interested in knowing about this special HAL as well but other >than the name, what else do I need to know to narrow the search? I can't help you with the file itself, I don't do windoze ;-) HTH, Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 17:13:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA23645 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:13:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00848; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:10:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:09:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00639; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:09:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (root@amber.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00605; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:09:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from sinai.ccs.neu.edu (dnb@sinai.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.104]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA04731; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:09:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dnb@localhost) by sinai.ccs.neu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id RAA00276; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:09:12 -0500 (EST) Sender: dnb@ccs.neu.edu To: Dominique Pivard Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600E: Automatic shutdown under windows NT 4 References: <199901121211.OAA12062@lohi.clinet.fi> From: dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) Date: 12 Jan 1999 17:09:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: Dominique Pivard's message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:11:07 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/Emacs 19.34 List-Unsubscribe: >>I look for HAL.DLL able to shutdown automaticly our TP600E under windows >>NT 4. > Why ask humans when machines can do it? http://ftpsearch.lycos.com/ > will look it (and find it) for you. Actually, I would be interested in one for the 560. What would you recommend using as search conditions? I didn't find anything interesting (besides the fact that this service got commercialized) using the obvious choices. Peace, dNb From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 18:46:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA24919 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:46:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05243; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:43:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:41:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05086; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:41:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.advi.net (root@mail.advi.net [208.139.144.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05062; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:41:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from ecamin (s179.advi.net [208.139.149.179]) by mail.advi.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA08617; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:36:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001001be3e84$f42197c0$b3958bd0@ecamin> From: "Edwin A Camin" To: "Alexander Krumeich" , Subject: Re: TP600: Batteries Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:38:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 List-Unsubscribe: My old TP701 and now my TP600 does the same thing. When I start up with 4 hrs, I know that it really is only about 3 hrs. The gage lies. Ed Camin -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Krumeich To: Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 5:08 AM Subject: TP600: Batteries >Hi there, > >my TP600 behaves strangely when running on batteries. The xapm power >gauge in Linux shows the energy left in battery. From a full 100% >charge, the rate decreases steadily to about 30%. So far so good. >However, instead of decreasing continously, the meter drops to 5% all >of a sudden and I get low-battery warnings. After that, the machine >has about 10 minutes of battery power left before it switches to >hibernation. > >Since the battery in the machine is a LiIon battery, I've thought >that the APM Bios can determine the amount of energy left pretty >accurately. Furthermore, wasn't the great thing about LiIons that they >don't have the memory effect? > >Can anybody explain or confirm that behaviour? Is the battery possibly >broken? > >TIA, > > Alexander > >PS: I appreciate personal copies of your answers. > >-- >Alexander Krumeich >http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 21:02:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA26281 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:02:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11009; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:00:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:59:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10869; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:59:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10729; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:55:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:54:59 -0500 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (chi-qbu-nvn-vty149.as.wcom.net [209.154.112.149]) by hil-img-10.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id UAA14383; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:54:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <369BFCCC.BB185DCD@csc.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:54:20 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mortaud Pierryck CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600E: Automatic shutdown under windows NT 4 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Please let the list know if you find one. I've been wanting one for my 770 since I got it last April. As far as I know, IBM hasn't produced one yet. Thanks, Rob Mortaud Pierryck wrote: > > I look for HAL.DLL able to shutdown automaticly our TP600E under windows NT > 4. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 22:06:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA27088 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:06:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13713; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:04:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:03:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13592; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:03:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13474; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:00:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA02661 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:00:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from dal-tsa13-48.cyberramp.net(207.158.82.176) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma002569; Tue Jan 12 20:59:46 1999 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990112205626.007a8430@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: powrlftr@popd.ix.netcom.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:56:26 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Blaine Hufnagle Subject: Minimum thinkpad requirements for Win NT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: My partner is taking classes for MCSE certification, and needs to have a laptop with NT on it to do classwork on. We want to buy a used Pentium class notebook (or maybe even a fast 486?) and spend as little money as possible to get the job done. We'll worry about cutting-edge technology later, right now we just want to get through the course! Can anyone out there please give us some suggestions on what to buy to get the job done? We'd appreciate any input y'all can give us. I can't keep up with the list as well as I should, so would you please cc a copy of your advice directly to me? Thanks! Scott Ferguson rpms@cyberramp.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 12 22:43:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA27606 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15119; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:41:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:41:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15024; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:40:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15012; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:40:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from atreyu (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id VAA10897; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:40:23 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990112213733.0082f210@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:37:33 -0600 To: Blaine Hufnagle From: Ron Heiby Subject: Re: Minimum thinkpad requirements for Win NT Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990112205626.007a8430@popd.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 08:56 PM 1/12/99 -0600, Blaine Hufnagle wrote: >My partner is taking classes for MCSE certification, and needs to have a >laptop with NT on it to do classwork on. We want to buy a used Pentium >class notebook (or maybe even a fast 486?) and spend as little money as >possible to get the job done. I have successfully installed and run NT on a 755CE (486DX4/100) with 40Meg of RAM and an 810 Meg hard disk. If I recall correctly, I installed MS VC++ 5, and perhaps MS VB 5 on that same drive, but might have put them on an out-board SCSI drive. I know I had the SCSI drives attached when running NT. I had the WinCE development stuff out there, at least. It was slow, but not horribly slow. If you want to install a development environment, be sure you have a larger hard drive. Oh, and pay close attention to how you plan to actually *install* NT onto the machine. It is *much* easier on systems with built-in CD-ROM capability. (On my 770ED, I was able to boot the NT install CD-ROM from my MSDN kit. I don't recall even needing the floppy drive attached.) Good luck! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers iQA/AwUBNpwU92asl5Jijs7SEQJn+gCffFC8yz4kYE8N2O/Vi84XuN6HggUAoLWC sfpAIytkhshRkUKsM1Npgx45 =VQ5Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 02:02:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA29803 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:02:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21167; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:00:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 01:59:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21070; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 01:59:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21058; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 01:59:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp139.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.139]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id AAA07057 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:59:15 -0600 (CST) From: "D. Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: TP600: Batteries Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:59:04 -0600 Message-ID: <000401be3ec2$34c42580$8856fea9@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <008e01be3e4e$c7975ef0$02006464@tpad> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: For general info, I've had two different notebooks in the last few years, a Toshiba 430 and this TP 1720, and neither can be relied upon to accurately calculate its remaining battery power. The 430 does a much better job with its proprietary power utility than with the Windows power meter, however. In both cases, I've fiddled with the battery warnings so that I have a reasonable amount of time left after the warning beep, but it's never what the numbers say it should be. The 1720 also has an internal warning, not associated with Windows, which beeps ferociously when the battery is about to crap out, and I've learned to take it seriously. It usually gives me about 3 minutes. In any case, I don't think your situation is unique or dysfunctional. -d David Talkington User Support Prairienet / Community Networking Initiative 244-1962 dtalk@prairienet.org ********************************************************** My words are my own, and represent those of a grouch. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Wenczel [mailto:m.wenczel@cwix.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 12 January, 1999 11:06 AM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: TP600: Batteries > > > My 770ED does not act that way. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexander Krumeich > To: I Lee Hetherington > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 11:52 AM > Subject: Re: TP600: Batteries > > > >Lee, > > > >[TP600 battery charge dropping from 30% to 5% in one instant] > > > >>I've seen this same exact behavior with several TP600s, whether they're > >>running Linux or Windows. In fact, I don't believe I've seen one that > >>didn't exhibit this behavior. > > > >So it's not only my machine that has a fault. Just out of curiosity: > >How do other LiIon based ThinkPad models behave? Any reasons for this? > > > >Have a nice day, > > > > Alexander > > > >-- > >Alexander Krumeich > >http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 05:03:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA01294 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 05:03:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA26852; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 05:01:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 05:00:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA26769; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 05:00:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from valis.olywa.net (olywa.net [205.163.58.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA26755; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 05:00:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from psynet.net ([208.1.124.99]) by valis.olywa.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-56662U5000L500S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:00:22 -0800 Message-ID: <369DC063.1B09EB66@psynet.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:01:08 -0800 From: J Organization: of Love X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Weird Video on 765D References: <369BFCCC.BB185DCD@csc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi All, Last night I hooked up my camcorder to the video-in jack on my new used 765D, and it worked great--clear, stable image in DVP Capture window. Tonight I tried it again, and the image is all cut up and distorted. What could have changed? I changed nothing. The only thing I did was install a McAfee Virus update! I am writing in the slim hopes that someone has divine inspiration for me. thanks james From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 07:27:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA02188 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:27:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04405; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:25:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:24:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04316; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:24:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (lucy.az.com [204.201.18.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04304; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:24:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp16-sally.atlantica.net (ppp16-sally.atlantica.net [206.63.195.80]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA16968 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:24:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <199901131224.EAA16968@www.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 04:31:01 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problem with 95 and 365XD List-Unsubscribe: Hello, For the last 6 hours I've been trying to figure out why my TP365XD won't print in Windows 95 OSR 2. Here's there situtation. I have my resume on a Word 97 document. I have a HP LaserJet II and an Epson Stylus Color 600. With a complete reinstall of 95 and office 97 pro, I try to print to either printer (not all at once) and the HP just blinks it processing light and then stops. Nothing comes out. The Epson will just sit there and lock up the Spooler to the point where you have to ctrl-alt-del it to end the thing. It will print under OS/2 (gawd I wish I had that resume under OS/2). So it's not a hardware problem. But when I am not in a "need now" condition, 95 will detect the printer with no problems. Now that I need it now (but it looks like I'm gonna have to fork out money to have Kinkos print it out) it won't detect it. Before when it would print, it would be fine. But then mysteriously lose the ability to print. If anyone has any ideas. I'd love to hear them. I really hate having to put 95 on over and over and over again because it loses it's ability to print things out. Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 09:14:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA03130 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:14:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08610; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:08:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:06:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08438; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:06:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAD (smtp4.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08425; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:06:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:05:25 -0500 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by hil-img-11.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id JAA09088 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:04:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <369CA7EC.CE6AE935@csc.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:04:28 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600E: Automatic shutdown under windows NT 4 References: <199901122102.XAA21913@lohi.clinet.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: But the point is that people are looking for an IBM ThinkPad specific HAL.DLL to allow NT to shutdown the laptop. Just picking the most recent DLL from an FTP server doesn't help much. I believe David was hoping that you knew the right keywords to use to locate this IBM specific file. Thanks, Rob Dominique Pivard wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 at 10:52 AM you, "David W. Taylor" > , said: > > >Perhaps you could help us with the necessary query, Dominique. > > Haven't you ever used a search engine? Anyway, go to > http://ftpsearch.lycos.com/, write "HAL.DLL" in the "Search for" field and > press the "Search" button. You will get 15 hits. Pick up the file with the > latest date stamp (25-Nov-1998), it should be good for you. > > >I would be interested in knowing about this special HAL as well but other > >than the name, what else do I need to know to narrow the search? > > I can't help you with the file itself, I don't do windoze ;-) > > HTH, Dominique From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 10:22:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA03929 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13494; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:20:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:19:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13295; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:19:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from sh1.ro.com (IDENT:3350@sh1.ro.com [205.216.92.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13283; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:19:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jeffj@localhost) by sh1.ro.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA14285 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:19:03 -0600 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:19:03 -0600 (EST) From: Jeff Jackowski To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Weird Video on 765D In-Reply-To: <369DC063.1B09EB66@psynet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, J wrote: > Hi All, > > Last night I hooked up my camcorder to the video-in jack on my new used > 765D, > and it worked great--clear, stable image in DVP Capture window. > > Tonight I tried it again, and the image is all cut up and distorted. > > What could have changed? I changed nothing. > The only thing I did was install a McAfee Virus update! Do you mean that the video has some magenta to blue colored horizontal lines and that the image shakes horizontally? I have this problem with my 765D. It seems to be related to heat. If the video player is started when the ThinkPad is warm (maybe after running for 10 minutes in 70 degree Faherenheit), the video is often fine. When it is started while cold, the video might be OK. When hot, the video is usually starts bad. After running for a while, the problem clears up some on my system, but never goes away. If the video is fine when the video player is started, the video remains fine while in use. I've gotten good enough with my timing so that I can get good video over half the time. The rest of the time, I just wait a while for the video to clear up some. After looking at the video for I while, I begin to filter out the mess, just like people can filter out noise when listening to others speak. I've thought about sending my system in for service to fix this problem, but for now I'd rather live with it than deal with Easy serv messing around. Besides, I just got my replacement AC adapter so that I can start using my ThinkPad again. It was enough trouble to convince them to send me the replacement. Jeff Jackowski http://ro.com/~jeff/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 11:00:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA04616 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16461; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:58:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:57:05 -0500 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16198; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from moore@localhost) by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id KAA09231 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:57:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from sh1.ro.com (IDENT:3350@sh1.ro.com [205.216.92.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11811; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jeffj@localhost) by sh1.ro.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA12042; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:20:15 -0600 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:20:14 -0600 (EST) From: Jeff Jackowski To: Alexander Krumeich cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600: Batteries In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Alexander Krumeich wrote: > Lee, > > [TP600 battery charge dropping from 30% to 5% in one instant] > > >I've seen this same exact behavior with several TP600s, whether they're > >running Linux or Windows. In fact, I don't believe I've seen one that > >didn't exhibit this behavior. > > So it's not only my machine that has a fault. Just out of curiosity: > How do other LiIon based ThinkPad models behave? Any reasons for this? I can't tell you why you are having those battery problems, but I can tell you that my 765D does not exhibit the problem. It has a pretty linear scale for the Li-ion batteries. >From what I understand, all batteries avaliable for notebook computers have the memory effect, but its not very pronounced with Li-ion batteries. I think the life span in recharges for Li-ion batteries is much shorter than for other batteries, so maybe they just don't live long enough for anyone to see the memory effect happen. Another oddity I have noticed is that one of my batteries holds about 5 to 10% more charge than the other. I got them both at the same time and have been good about alternating their use. Jeff Jackowski http://ro.com/~jeff/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 11:10:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA04765 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:10:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16866; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:02:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:02:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16749; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:02:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from send102.yahoomail.com (send102.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16724; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:01:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990113160328.25381.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> Received: from [134.100.160.112] by send102.yahoomail.com; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:03:28 PST Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:03:28 -0800 (PST) From: swjatoslaw gerus Subject: IBM560x versus 560z To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Gentleman's How great is difference in speed and power consumption between 560x with 233-266MMX and 560z with P2-233-300? processor consumption comparsion sleep 166 mmx 4.1 watt 0.05 watt 200 mmx 5.0 0.05 233 mmx 5.5 0.05 266 mmx 7.0 0.05 P2-223 9.0 1.2 P2-266 10.3 1.2 P2-300 11.6 1.2 If consumption power of HDD,FDD,display would included (how great ?) ,than difference would smaller ,as in both case consumption power of HDD,FDD,display is equal.Who have some experience or idea ? Who have some experience with application,which definitiv need P2-233-300 ,but not P-200-266 mmx ? I would very pleased for some info Yours Respectfully Gerus _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 13:03:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA06282 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:03:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25873; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:59:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:57:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25696; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:57:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from smh-mail.smh.com (smh-mail.smh.com [204.5.150.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25678; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:56:48 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from ccMail by smh-mail.smh.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 0008F5CD; Wed, 13 Jan 99 12:23:17 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:08:51 -0800 Message-ID: <0008F5CD.CE21223@smh.com> Subject: 770ED and Ultrabay II To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part List-Unsubscribe: Greetings, I've got a mix of Thinkpads: some use 12.5mm hard drives and the 770 uses the 17mm (think that's right; it's thicker, anyway) variety. Can I put a 12.5 mm drive in the 2nd HD adapter that fits into the ultrabay of the 770 and use it as my second drive? Is there a spacer available? It certainly would be nice to "share" a thin hard drive occasionally between my 600 and 770. Regards, Neil Halvey 770ED 600 701C From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 13:23:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA06555 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:23:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27403; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:19:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27232; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:19:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from sarah.albany.edu (sarah.albany.edu [169.226.1.103]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27192; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:18:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp.binghamton.edu (136.hartford-11-12rs.ct.dial-access.att.net [12.79.36.136]) by sarah.albany.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA27705 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:18:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901131818.NAA27705@sarah.albany.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Ken's E-mail Client 1998 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:17:34 -0500 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [770ED,W95B] Suspend/hibernate no longer work Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi. This latest problem is really frustrating: On my 770ED with Windows 95 OSR2, I can no longer suspend or hibernate the machine. If I try to suspend, the pointer changes to an hourglass, as it should. But instead of turning off 3 seconds later, it never advances beyond that point, even if I wait half an hour. Ctrl-Alt-Del reveals "MsgSrv32" not responding, which I can terminate. Once I do this, I'm going to have a messy time shutting down the machine, and Windows is never going to get past the "Please wait while your computer shuts down" message, and I'll have to use the hard power off. If I instead try to hibernate, the middle green LED on the top of the Thinkpad starts flashing, like it should, but nothing changes on the screen. I am still in Win95, and I can still continue to use Win95 as though I'd never hit the power switch (which triggers hibernate). Same behavior if I use Fuel to enter hibernate or suspend. Annoyingly, if I try the above Suspend, and then eventually work my way out to the "Please wait..." screen, if I then hit the power switch, the machine hibernates. Very useful to hibernate at a crashed shutdown screen. Upon returning from hibernate, I am, of course, right back at the "Please wait..." screen. I have tried turning off almost every device I can think of in the Device Manager, to no avail. What changed on my computer before this problem popped up? Well, I installed Laplink95, turned my infrared port on, and at some point uninstalled "VocalTec Internet Phone 5" that I had installed a couple of weeks earlier. Subsequently uninstalling Laplink and turning the infrared port back off have not removed the problem. This may be a tricky problem, but I was hoping there was something about this that rings a bell for someone, or that there's something simple I'm overlooking. I'm really hoping I don't have to reinstall my whole operating system, but I'm also really not liking missing suspend and hibernate. Thanks so much to anyone who can help! Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 13:27:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA06631 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:27:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27822; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:25:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:23:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27633; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:23:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from smh-mail.smh.com (smh-mail.smh.com [204.5.150.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27589; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:23:21 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from ccMail by smh-mail.smh.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 0008F6C0; Wed, 13 Jan 99 12:31:35 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:04:39 -0800 Message-ID: <0008F6C0.CE21223@smh.com> Subject: 770ED and Ultrabay II To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part List-Unsubscribe: Greetings, I've got a mix of Thinkpads: some use 12.5mm hard drives and the 770 uses the 17mm (think that's right; it's thicker, anyway) variety. Can I put a 12.5 mm drive in the 2nd HD adapter that fits into the ultrabay of the 770 and use it as my second drive? Is there a spacer available? It certainly would be nice to "share" a thin hard drive occasionally between my 600 and 770. Regards, Neil Halvey 770ED 600 701C From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 15:01:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA08298 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:01:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03675; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:53:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:50:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03433; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03387; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp134.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.134]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id NAA24297; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:49:37 -0600 (CST) From: "D. Talkington" To: "LightSide" , "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: Problem with 95 and 365XD Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:49:22 -0600 Message-ID: <000101be3f2d$d129ac40$9a5cfea9@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199901131224.EAA16968@www.az.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Just a thought ... I had serious trouble with printing on a 1450 and again on a 1720, before I figured out that ECP mode wasn't working with my printer. IBM insists that it's not defective, since standard bi-directional mode works fine. Odd, worked fine on my Toshiba 430 ... In any case, if the OS is interacting badly with the ECP on your particular printer, change it to standard bi-directional in BIOS, reinstall your printer drivers, and give it a whirl. Might help. -d David Talkington User Support Prairienet / Community Networking Initiative 244-1962 dtalk@prairienet.org ********************************************************** My words are my own, and represent those of a grouch. > -----Original Message----- > From: LightSide [mailto:robertm@az.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 13 January, 1999 6:31 AM > To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU > Subject: Problem with 95 and 365XD > > > Hello, > For the last 6 hours I've been trying to figure out why my > TP365XD won't print in Windows 95 OSR 2. > > Here's there situtation. I have my resume on a Word 97 document. > I have a HP LaserJet II and an Epson > Stylus Color 600. With a complete reinstall of 95 and office 97 > pro, I try to print to either printer (not all at > once) and the HP just blinks it processing light and then stops. > Nothing comes out. The Epson will just sit > there and lock up the Spooler to the point where you have to > ctrl-alt-del it to end the thing. > > It will print under OS/2 (gawd I wish I had that resume under > OS/2). So it's not a hardware problem. But when I > am not in a "need now" condition, 95 will detect the printer with > no problems. Now that I need it now (but it > looks like I'm gonna have to fork out money to have Kinkos print > it out) it won't detect it. Before when it would > print, it would be fine. But then mysteriously lose the ability to print. > > If anyone has any ideas. I'd love to hear them. I really hate > having to put 95 on over and over and over again > because it loses it's ability to print things out. > > Robert > > > Robert Mears > Certified Key and Button Pusher > robertm@az.com > OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 15:07:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA08404 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:07:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04522; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:03:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:01:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04262; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:01:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smh-mail.smh.com (smh-mail.smh.com [204.5.150.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04125; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:00:47 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from ccMail by smh-mail.smh.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 0008F756; Wed, 13 Jan 99 14:45:23 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:08:42 -0800 Message-ID: <0008F756.CE21223@smh.com> Subject: 770ED and Ultrabay II To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part List-Unsubscribe: Greetings, I've got a mix of Thinkpads: some use 12.5mm hard drives and the 770 uses the 17mm (think that's right; it's thicker, anyway) variety. Can I put a 12.5 mm drive in the 2nd HD adapter that fits into the ultrabay of the 770 and use it as my second drive? Is there a spacer available? It certainly would be nice to "share" a thin hard drive occasionally between my 600 and 770. Regards, Neil Halvey 770ED 600 701C From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 15:13:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA08485 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:13:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05492; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:11:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:09:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05264; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:09:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05222; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:09:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p22.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.37]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA13945 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:59:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901131959.LAA13945@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 12:08:57 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FS: Battery for 355/360/755 List-Unsubscribe: Sorry to bother the list again, but I'm clearing out a lot of my un-needed computer stuff, and I have an extra battery for a 355/360/755 that supposedly works. I was thinking about $50, or make me an offer (since I have a 750, it won't work, and I've already tried). Please personally email me, not the group. The battery DOES work, the last that I know... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.4 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 15:14:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA08502 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:14:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05572; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:12:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:10:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05370; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:10:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05328; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:10:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p22.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.37]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA14071; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:00:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901132000.MAA14071@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "pkvp Hamelin" , "ThinkPad" Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 12:09:52 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: unsubscribe List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:37:44 -0500, pkvp Hamelin wrote: >unsubscribe leham@ibm.net >This message was sent from another account. This is my second attempt. Thanks. > Maybe you should try your request to thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win NT 4.0, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.4 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 15:52:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA09231 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:52:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08174; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:48:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:46:05 -0500 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07977; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:46:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from moore@localhost) by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id PAA10189 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:45:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04587; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:04:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:03:36 -0500 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (gw1.mcda.org [206.196.37.146]) by dub-img-ims-1.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id PAA07558; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:02:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <369CFBF1.C3B6CF95@csc.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:02:57 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cornelius-halvey@smh.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770ED and Ultrabay II References: <0008F6C0.CE21223@smh.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The UltraBay HDD adapter for the 770 accommodates either 770 style or 755/760 style drives. I don't know if what you call '12.5mm' drives are the same as the 755/760 style ones or not. Anyway, there were several sizes (thickness) of 760 drives and they all seem to work in the adapter. HTH, Rob -- ----------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rbell1@nospam@csc.com ----------------------------------------- cornelius-halvey@smh.com wrote: > > Greetings, > > I've got a mix of Thinkpads: some use 12.5mm hard drives and the 770 > uses the 17mm (think that's right; it's thicker, anyway) variety. Can > I put a 12.5 mm drive in the 2nd HD adapter that fits into the > ultrabay of the 770 and use it as my second drive? Is there a spacer > available? > > It certainly would be nice to "share" a thin hard drive occasionally > between my 600 and 770. > > Regards, > > Neil Halvey > 770ED > 600 > 701C From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 16:41:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA10043 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:41:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10828; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:32:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:30:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10619; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:30:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.eclipse.net (root@mail.eclipse.net [207.207.192.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10589; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:29:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from cnj1-03-120.eclipse.net (cnj1-03-120.eclipse.net [207.207.243.120]) by mail.eclipse.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA28214 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:29:38 -0500 (EST) From: mdash@plexsys.com (Michael D. Scheer) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755CX OS install Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:29:36 GMT Message-ID: <369e0247.26087151@mail.eclipse.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: I have inherited a 755CX running 95 that has all kinds of crufty software half-uninstalled. I would like to bring the machine to a consistent state by reinstalling the OS. Two problems: 1. No recovery floppies or CD. Neither do I see images for them on the IBM web site. 2. No CDROM drive. I would really prefer to install from CDROM rather than floppies, if I can get to that point. What are my options for installing a CDROM drive that would be useful for OS installation? Suggestions? Thanks. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 17:25:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA10679 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:25:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13583; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:20:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:18:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13413; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:18:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13346; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:16:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-67.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.67]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA22854 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:17:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990113172014.009aa100@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:20:14 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: 755CX OS install In-Reply-To: <369e0247.26087151@mail.eclipse.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:29 PM 1/13/99 GMT, Michael D. Scheer wrote: >I have inherited a 755CX running 95 that has all kinds of crufty >software half-uninstalled. I would like to bring the machine to a >consistent state by reinstalling the OS. > >Two problems: > >1. No recovery floppies or CD. Neither do I see images for them on >the IBM web site. > >2. No CDROM drive. I would really prefer to install from CDROM >rather than floppies, if I can get to that point. What are my options >for installing a CDROM drive that would be useful for OS installation? If your current install is network able, network it to a desktop machine that has a CDROM. Copy over the Win95 dir, and install it from the 755cx's HD natively. If you have a parallel device, wipe the drive, make a bootdisk to enable the parallel device, copy over the Win95 dir and go from there. The main point is to get that Win95 directory on the HD. It is the quickest, easiest method. I use a Zip drive and a bullet drive primarily for this purpose. ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 17:28:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA10721 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:28:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13841; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:23:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:21:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13648; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:21:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from netdoor.com (root@netdoor.com [208.137.128.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13627; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:21:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp560e (port141.stk.netdoor.com [208.137.149.141]) by netdoor.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA25155 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:21:06 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <004e01be3f42$f17942c0$8d9589d0@tp560e> From: "See-Kit Lam" To: Subject: [tp560] Modem dies after resuming from hibernation!!! Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:20:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 List-Unsubscribe: i have a 560E and a v.90 pcmcia modem. i posted a message concerning no response from modem after system resumes from hibernation or RediSafe. i had to take out the modem and reinsert it. now, the problem got bigger. there is no response after reinserting the modem. i have to restart the system in order to get the modem working again. now, all the hibernation or RediSafe utilities are useless to me since i use the laptop to surf and to run simulation online. i just have to shut down the whole thing if i'm not going to work for a while or just leave the system on with hibernation disabled. any solutions? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 17:39:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA10906 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:39:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15041; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:30:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:28:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14756; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:28:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com (ndcrelay2.mcit.com [166.37.172.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14703; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:28:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id WAA22321 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:25:17 GMT Received: from ibm.net ([166.34.207.124]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with ESMTP id <19990113222757.TMVZ6156@ibm.net> for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:27:57 -0600 Sender: teresa@MCI.Com Message-ID: <369D1D2F.7E00E04C@ibm.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:24:48 -0700 From: Teresa Selling X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; U; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/859) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 755CX OS install References: <3.0.1.32.19990113172014.009aa100@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: A PCMCIA hard drive is another way to get the Win95 install files from one machine to another if both have a PCMCIA slot. Mark Bell wrote: > At 09:29 PM 1/13/99 GMT, Michael D. Scheer wrote: > >I have inherited a 755CX running 95 that has all kinds of crufty > >software half-uninstalled. I would like to bring the machine to a > >consistent state by reinstalling the OS. > > > >Two problems: > > > >1. No recovery floppies or CD. Neither do I see images for them on > >the IBM web site. > > > >2. No CDROM drive. I would really prefer to install from CDROM > >rather than floppies, if I can get to that point. What are my options > >for installing a CDROM drive that would be useful for OS installation? > > If your current install is network able, network it to a desktop machine > that has a CDROM. Copy over the Win95 dir, and install it from the 755cx's > HD natively. If you have a parallel device, wipe the drive, make a bootdisk > to enable the parallel device, copy over the Win95 dir and go from there. > The main point is to get that Win95 directory on the HD. It is the quickest, > easiest method. I use a Zip drive and a bullet drive primarily for this > purpose. > > ------------------------------------------------- > Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting > 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 > Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net > ------------------------------------------------- > Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic > RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. > Network and System consultation and installation > -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 18:43:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA11917 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:43:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18303; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:40:25 -0500 Received: from spot.cs.utk.edu (SPOT.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18108; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from moore@localhost) by spot.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id SAA10955 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:40:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14901; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:29:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from holygrail (HOLYGRAIL.brightware.com [206.156.118.201]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA29611; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:29:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <01cd01be3f44$2f02c7f0$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "See-Kit Lam" , Subject: Re: [tp560] Modem dies after resuming from hibernation!!! Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:28:57 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: There is a fix for this on the IBM support web site. -----Original Message----- From: See-Kit Lam To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 2:24 PM Subject: [tp560] Modem dies after resuming from hibernation!!! >i have a 560E and a v.90 pcmcia modem. i posted a message concerning no >response from modem after system resumes from hibernation or RediSafe. i had >to take out the modem and reinsert it. > >now, the problem got bigger. there is no response after reinserting the >modem. i have to restart the system in order to get the modem working again. > >now, all the hibernation or RediSafe utilities are useless to me since i use >the laptop to surf and to run simulation online. i just have to shut down >the whole thing if i'm not going to work for a while or just leave the >system on with hibernation disabled. > >any solutions? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 21:33:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA14098 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:33:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24608; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:31:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:29:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24451; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:29:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24438; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from atreyu (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id UAA14215 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:29:02 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990113213109.008387a0@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:31:09 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Ron Heiby Subject: Re: 770ED and Ultrabay II In-Reply-To: <369CFBF1.C3B6CF95@csc.com> References: <0008F6C0.CE21223@smh.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 02:02 PM 1/13/99 -0600, you wrote: >The UltraBay HDD adapter for the 770 accommodates either 770 style or >755/760 style drives. Does this mean that I can take a drive intended for the 755CE, still in its cute little plastic box (ready to be inserted into the 755CE), and stick it into my 770ED via the UltraBay HDD adapter? Or, do I need to extract the drive >from the 755CE adaptation hardware, first? Thanks! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers iQA/AwUBNp1k+Gasl5Jijs7SEQLaAACgg92useAij7UPWUFq4px2CeQjlscAnRGj t5Toag33B9o5W+QSjOZ/wkmE =P0Di -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 21:56:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA14397 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:56:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25725; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:55:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:53:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25605; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:53:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from opus.liveworld.com (opus.liveworld.com [205.216.163.172]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25591; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:53:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7066 invoked from network); 13 Jan 1999 18:53:50 PST Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Jan 1999 18:53:50 PST Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:53:50 -0800 (PST) From: Valerie Delane X-Sender: valerie@opus.liveworld.com To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: [tp560x] success with linux Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: with no small effort, i finally got linux-based pcmcia networking up on my 560x. in case anyone else is attempting to do that, have a look at . it describes what i did for pcmcia, networking, apm, x, etc. best regards, --v From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 22:00:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA14444 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:00:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26183; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:00:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:58:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25994; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:58:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25925; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:58:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from 119.new-york-06-07rs.ny.dial-access.att.net ([12.78.194.119]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990114025747.HXEI10402@119.new-york-06-07rs.ny.dial-access.att.net> for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:57:47 +0000 From: r.lawrence@worldnet.att.net (Robert Lawrence) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: [770ED]: Problems using Colorado Backup for Win95 ver. 3.22 Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:57:43 GMT Message-ID: <369e5a5b.2414221@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: I have had problems attempting to backup my 770ED using Colorado Backup for Windows 95, ver. 3.22, and a Colorado T1000e tape drive. Among other annoyances, I get error messages to the effect that the tapes I am using are in the wrong format, or that the tapes have bad sectors. I know the tapes are perfectly OK since I get no such error messages when using them to backup my desktop computer. I have contacted Colorado Support, which has made the following suggestion: "Please check on your system for any power management, sometimes referred to as APM (Advanced Power management). I suggest checking in the BIOS and the Device Manager, disable it anywhere it is found. Sometimes this can cause the errors you are getting." I know how to get to Power Management through ThinkPad Configuration, but I'm not sure what I am supposed to change when I get there, to implement the above suggestion. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has successfully used Colorado Backup for Win95 ver. 3.22 to backup his or her ThinkPad, or who has any suggestions for dealing with this problem. Robert Lawrence From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 13 22:58:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA15213 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:58:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28359; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:57:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:55:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28232; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:55:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28216; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:55:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901140355.WAA28216@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Thu, 12 Jan 1989 20:52:26 -0800 (PST) From: "Victor Kress" To: "Thinkpad mailing list" Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:56:02 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: linux lockup on modem insert List-Unsubscribe: Hi all, I am gradually getting linux up on my tp600. At this point I have everything up and running great EXCEPT... When I insert my old Megaherz Xjack modem, the computer beeps and locks up solid. When I pop the card out, I get two beeps and everything works perfectly. My ethernet and scsi cards work great. dmesg gives: ..... tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 9) is a 8250 tty01 unloaded when I cat /var/log/messages, I get an indication that the modem was detected corectly. Then I get: executing: 'insmod /lib/......serial_cs.o' kernel: tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 9) is a 8250 kernel: tty01 unloaded executing: '/serial start ttyS1' shutting down socket 0 executing: './serial stop ttyS1' executing: 'rmod serial_cs' Days of headbanging $80 worth of linux books and a thorough web search have not given me too much insight into the solution to this problem. There appears to be a disagreement between references to ttyS1 and tty01, but I can't find where these are set. /dev/tty01 does not exist, and setserial on /dev/ttyS1 gives an irq of 2 (which I understand is pointed to by irq9, but this is confusing to me as well). I have tried everything I can think of. If somebody has any suggestions, please send directly to me. Thanks very much in advance! ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 00:46:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA16631 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:46:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02254; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:45:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:43:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02082; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:43:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from franklin.lisco.net (root@ns3.lisco.com [206.26.90.190]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02070; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:43:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad-770ed (fairfield-19.lisco.com [206.26.90.89]) by franklin.lisco.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA16191 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:43:25 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00ce01be3f80$ac6f6d60$595a1ace@thinkpad-770ed> From: "David Edson" To: Subject: Help: How do you clear the Run "most recently used" selection list on the Start menu AND Q on the modem Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:42:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: 1.0 I have an annoying problem on my 770ED: I updated many of the modem files using the external floppy, and now when I pass the cursor past the 'RUN' selection on the 'Start' menu it hangs at the 'Run' location until a certain time out occurs if I do not have the 3 1/2 floppy connected. It should be simple to correct, but I haven't found a way to do it. It did not do this when I first ran the TP. I assume the problem is caused by the existence of files with "a:" prefixes. 2.0 I am also curious as to others success with the internal modem. It has been a real pain, from not working at all (the initial set up), to handshaking problems (doesn't connect), to dropping out. I have used two other laptops with the same ISP and had no problems logging in and running. I have put in all of the modem updates, the patch, and the v90 driver. Most annoying for such a quality machine - I have been very disappointed in how much time it has taken me to get on line, and shaky at that. It does connect on my line at work at 4400 bps, and 3200 at home. Thanks for any help! David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 01:03:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16846 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:03:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02783; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:02:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:01:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02683; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:01:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02670; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:01:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-152.gate.net [207.36.212.152]) by wichita.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA07968; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:01:13 -0500 Message-ID: <369D8828.FC04D1BD@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:01:12 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ron Heiby CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770ED and Ultrabay II References: <0008F6C0.CE21223@smh.com> <3.0.5.32.19990113213109.008387a0@popmail.mcs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ron.. yes.. except.. it might not be recognised... also, there is a locking bar on the bottom of the 755 type HDD's which will raise the HDD so you can not slide it IN the 770.. so, the answer is yes, but you will need to remove the black plastic shell and leave the plug assembly on the HDD.. Ron Heiby wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > At 02:02 PM 1/13/99 -0600, you wrote: > >The UltraBay HDD adapter for the 770 accommodates either 770 style or > >755/760 style drives. > > Does this mean that I can take a drive intended for the 755CE, still in its > cute little plastic box (ready to be inserted into the 755CE), and stick it > into my 770ED via the UltraBay HDD adapter? Or, do I need to extract the drive > from the 755CE adaptation hardware, first? > > Thanks! > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 > Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers > > iQA/AwUBNp1k+Gasl5Jijs7SEQLaAACgg92useAij7UPWUFq4px2CeQjlscAnRGj > t5Toag33B9o5W+QSjOZ/wkmE > =P0Di > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Ron. -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 01:06:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16880 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:06:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03156; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:05:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:04:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03004; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:04:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02991; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:04:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-152.gate.net [207.36.212.152]) by wichita.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA48616; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:04:07 -0500 Message-ID: <369D88D6.73F68603@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:04:06 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cornelius-halvey@smh.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770ED and Ultrabay II References: <0008F5CD.CE21223@smh.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Neil.. the 2nd HDD adapter will accomodate ALL 760 & 770 HDD's.. these HDD's come in a HDD shell.. 75x HDD's won't fit unless you remove the black plastic shell.. and then i have not tried it to see if the 770 will recognise the 75x type HDD.. you'll need a HDD shell to use the 600 HDD in the 770.. plus the 2nd HDD adapter.. cornelius-halvey@smh.com wrote: > Greetings, > > I've got a mix of Thinkpads: some use 12.5mm hard drives and the 770 > uses the 17mm (think that's right; it's thicker, anyway) variety. Can > I put a 12.5 mm drive in the 2nd HD adapter that fits into the > ultrabay of the 770 and use it as my second drive? Is there a spacer > available? > > It certainly would be nice to "share" a thin hard drive occasionally > between my 600 and 770. > > Regards, > > Neil Halvey > 770ED > 600 > 701C -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 01:09:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16925 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:09:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03550; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:08:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:07:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03360; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:07:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03348; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:07:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-152.gate.net [207.36.212.152]) by wichita.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA62340; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:07:19 -0500 Message-ID: <369D8996.5D7B3F4E@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:07:18 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Campbell CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Fri, 08 Jan 1999 References: <369B3664.1E60ED41@chamber.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Scott... i have been doing that for years.. no problem as long as the plug fits the socket.. :-) Scott Campbell wrote: > We have a number of Thinkpads (a 560, two 380Ds and 6 380XDs). The > 560 and 380Ds use a smaller power brick than the 380XDs. I have > misplaced one of the big bricks and was wondering: > > Is it okay to use one of the smaller bricks on a 380XD instead of the > big brick that comes with it? It seems to work fine but I am worried > I am causing some long-term damage or something... > > Thanks in advance for any replies. > > scott -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 01:11:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16942 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:11:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03894; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:11:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:09:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03674; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03660; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-152.gate.net [207.36.212.152]) by wichita.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA66150; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:09:48 -0500 Message-ID: <369D8A2B.9843D056@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:09:47 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Siegfried Hanisch CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Memory upgrade 760 - 770 References: <199901111910.TAA129226@out5.ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Seigfried.. i have personally not ever used 760E series memory in a 770, but it was reported that it would work.. so YES, but you don't want to.. the EDO memory does not work well with the SDRAM memory on the system board.. Siegfried Hanisch wrote: > Hi > > I have a TP760EL with 2x32MB RAM expansion. > I will get a new 770 now. > Can I use the 2 32MB modules with the new machine? > > Greetings # Quick to judge > Siegfried Hanisch # Quick to anger > =====================================# Slow to understand > siegfried.hanisch@ibm.net # Ignorance and prejudice > ssaver@ibm.net (ScreenSaver support) # And fear > =====================================# Walk hand in hand > http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8925811/ # Rush - "Witch Hunt" > PGP public key available # Team OS/2 # -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 01:20:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA17039 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04463; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:20:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:18:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04348; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:18:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04335; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:18:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-152.gate.net [207.36.212.152]) by wichita.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA68016; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:18:41 -0500 Message-ID: <369D8C40.1118E289@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:18:40 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: A Kumar CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 600- EasyServe didn't realy fix References: <005201be3cf2$4effed20$c5b77180@k2.dynamic.rpi.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Regretably, you may need to send it back yet again.. this time follow up by telephone.. be persistent and firm.. be nice.. sugar gets more than vinegar.. be sure to contact the tech working on your machine.. if there is a service center, a GOOD service center nearby, by all means, explain the situation and then take it in.. its not a long job to swap the top cover/display assembly.... A Kumar wrote: > I have had a 600 since August during that time: > 1) The paint on the palmrest and speaker grill started peeling > 2) My '[{' broke > 3) The screen started going out and only coming back on if I hit the side > 4) Two dead pixels appeared > Talked to IBM Friday before last explained what was wrong including dead > pixels IBM tech support guy said all would be fixed. So I got the Easy > Serve box on Monday sent out the computer on Tuesday and got computer back > on Friday. But they didn't fix everything they replaced keyboard and > keyboard cover, but not speaker grill. They say they replaced video cable, > but screen still goes out and they didn't replace screen, like the IBM guy > said they would. Now they want me to send the computer back, but I'm in > college and have classes the absolutely require the computer! Anyone have > any suggestions? The screen goes out more and more often and it is getting > harder to bring it back. I also checked out local repair centers but they > want at least two working days. Any chance of IBM sending me a new shell? -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 07:54:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA19834 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19446; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:53:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:51:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19276; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:51:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.wsl.com.my ([202.190.130.226]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19263; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:50:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from warren1 (j37.ptl42.jaring.my[161.142.116.51])by NS1(MailMax 2.040) with ESMTP id 0 for warren@warrentan.com; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:53:18 +0800 From: "Warren Tan Wing Wah" To: Subject: [770ED] It won't boot!!! Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:51:47 +0800 Message-ID: <000001be3fbc$a5972460$01c8c8c8@warren1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Help!! My brand new 770ED won't boot. I wanted to install Win98 clean, and followed IBM's instructions. First was to update the BIOS. Inserted the disk, updated it, no problem. Then I took out the disk, turned off the computer. Turned it on again and pressed F1 to enter easy-setup to initialize. But here comes the problem. It boots to the screen where you can see the logo and "64960 KB OK" and then freezes. No keystroke works. Power button doesn't work. Only a reset with a pencil works. Any ideas? Thanks... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 09:37:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA21198 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:37:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23667; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:36:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:34:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23523; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:34:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAD (smtp4.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23503; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:34:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:33:38 -0500 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (chi-qbu-nvd-vty20.as.wcom.net [209.154.107.20]) by dub-img-ims-4.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id JAA26137; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:32:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <369E0029.CAD3AE67@csc.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:33:13 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Morrow CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Memory upgrade 760 - 770 References: <199901111910.TAA129226@out5.ibm.net> <369D8A2B.9843D056@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bill, What potential problems are you referring to? I ran with EDO memory for a few months last spring on the 770 without problems. I haven't used that configuration since I upgraded to 128MB last summer, but I don't remember any issues. Thanks, Rob Bill Morrow wrote: > > Seigfried.. > i have personally not ever used 760E series memory in a 770, but it was > reported that it would work.. so YES, but you don't want to.. > the EDO memory does not work well with the SDRAM memory on the system > board.. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 10:07:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21595 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:07:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25973; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:04:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25807; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:04:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25791; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:04:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls-dell-15.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA14688; Thu, 14 Jan 99 10:04:26 EST Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (gummi [18.27.0.33]) by sls-dell-15.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id KAA13912; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:04:26 -0500 (EST) Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <369E077A.5596D6CA@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:04:26 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.0-pre6-ac2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Morrow Cc: A Kumar , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 600- EasyServe didn't realy fix References: <005201be3cf2$4effed20$c5b77180@k2.dynamic.rpi.edu> <369D8C40.1118E289@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: On 3 of our 15 TP600s, we had the peeling paint problem. All 3 were fixed by IBM without question. The shell piece was replaced. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 10:13:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA21804 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:13:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26576; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:12:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:10:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26353; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:10:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from send501.yahoomail.com (web506.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26338; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:10:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990114151050.26711.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [166.34.207.124] by web506.yahoomail.com; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:10:50 PST Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:10:50 -0800 (PST) From: Teresa Selling Subject: 770's DVDROM drive cannot read all cdroms (but CDROM drive can) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: A week or so I posted about having difficulty getting the DVD drive in my 770E to read a demo cdrom from a magazine... and the cdroms that came in a Sierra game pack (King's Quest, Space Quest, etc). Well, I recently invested in the 24x CDROM drive for the 770 and found it could read these cdroms just fine. So if you should have difficulty reading some cdroms (the drive just seeks and seeks and seeks...) you might want to invest in a cdrom drive for those hard to read titles. (PCMALL has the DVDROM drive and the CDROM drive on clearance for $79 so good time to pick up a spare). == --- Teresa Selling Colorado Springs, CO _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 11:21:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA23085 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:21:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00672; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:15:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:12:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00443; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:12:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00429; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:12:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp213.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.213]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id KAA19671 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:12:35 -0600 (CST) From: "D. Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: [770ED] It won't boot!!! Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:12:14 -0600 Message-ID: <000301be3fd8$a66252e0$2040fea9@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <000001be3fbc$a5972460$01c8c8c8@warren1> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I'm not sure I understand why you're bothering with a news posting for what is obviously a hardware or BIOS problem with a "brand new" machine. Take the thing back where you bought it, point at it and emit incoherent whiny grunts until they exchange it. Do make sure you PRECISELY follow the directions for BIOS upgrades, however. Unlike software upgrades, a botched BIOS flash upgrade can trash your motherboard. On that note, I do believe I would refrain from telling the retailer that you upgraded the BIOS. Might save you a lot of explaining. =) -d David Talkington User Support Prairienet / Community Networking Initiative 244-1962 dtalk@prairienet.org ********************************************************** My words are my own, and represent those of a grouch. > -----Original Message----- > From: Warren Tan Wing Wah [mailto:warren@warrentan.com] > Sent: Thursday, 14 January, 1999 6:52 AM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: [770ED] It won't boot!!! > > > Help!! > > My brand new 770ED won't boot. I wanted to install Win98 clean, and > followed IBM's instructions. First was to update the BIOS. Inserted the > disk, updated it, no problem. Then I took out the disk, turned off the > computer. Turned it on again and pressed F1 to enter easy-setup to > initialize. > > But here comes the problem. It boots to the screen where you can see the > logo and "64960 KB OK" and then freezes. No keystroke works. > Power button > doesn't work. Only a reset with a pencil works. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks... > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 11:22:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA23101 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01222; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:18:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00936; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:18:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from firefly.prairienet.org (firefly.prairienet.org [192.17.3.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00911; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:18:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp213.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.213]) by firefly.prairienet.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA25115 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:18:17 -0600 (CST) From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:17:58 -0600 Message-ID: <000401be3fd9$72ede900$2040fea9@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Anyone besides me having great difficulty getting CDs created by Adaptec's DirectCD to be read in Thinkpads? Mine's a 1720i, and it really doesn't like home-burned CDs. It's very slow to recognize commercial disks, as well. Not good for much but installing software, which is ok, but since I back up software onto homemade CDs, the trouble reading packet-written media is an issue. Simply won't read some files, and takes a very long time to pick up others. I know not all drives can handle these disks, but this machine is only a month old, and I thought all (most?) new drives could deal with them. My workaround is to use a network CD drive, but that's not an option on the road ... Not really a reason to consider it defective, just an annoying shortcoming. David Talkington User Support Prairienet / Community Networking Initiative From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 11:37:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA23377 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:37:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01801; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:25:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:23:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01559; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:23:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from t2.wmis.net (t2.wmis.net [206.249.182.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01542; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:23:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from work450 (asc3-ip43-grr.wmis.net [209.44.12.93]) by t2.wmis.net (8.8.5/SCO5) with SMTP id QAA16457; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:27:50 GMT From: "William Mast" To: "'David Edson'" , Subject: RE: Help: How do you clear the Run "most recently used" selection list on the Start menu AND Q on the modem Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:12:17 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be3fd9$dd72e460$0200c8c8@work450> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00ce01be3f80$ac6f6d60$595a1ace@thinkpad-770ed> List-Unsubscribe: David Point #1: If you know how to use REGEDIT, look for "RunMRU" in the Registry, and on the right hand pane is a list of values that were "Run". Highlight the appropriate ones and right-click and choose delete. BTW, I believe "RunMRU" appears TWICE in the registry. Point #2: My internal 770ED modem connected flawlessly, albeit at 28,800 to my ISP when it should be around 45,000. When you say 4400bps, are you referring to bits per second (this would be VERY slow), or characters per second (this would be decent, actually, considering phone line qualities, etc.) Later, Bill From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 11:45:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA23553 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:45:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24716; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:45:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:43:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24158; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:43:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24139; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:43:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:42:33 -0500 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (chi-qbu-nvd-vty20.as.wcom.net [209.154.107.20]) by dub-img-ims-4.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id JAA27399; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:42:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <369E0259.3E271E64@csc.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:42:33 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Edson CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Help: How do you clear the Run "most recently used" selection list on the Start menu AND Q on the modem References: <00ce01be3f80$ac6f6d60$595a1ace@thinkpad-770ed> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: You can use Microsoft's TweakUI utility to do this. It is a very handy utility that is available free from MS alone or within the PowerToys package. You can also find the registry key yourself and remove it. As with any registry edit, be careful and make a backup of the appropriate registry files before attempting it. On my NT4 installation, the key with the Run history was: HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1721589239-88220016-324685333-1000\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\RunMRU But I'd guess it would be a different location in a Win95/98 installation. Just run Regedit and search for RunMRU. When you find it, look for the offending A: drive reference in a key and remove it. Before removing it, note the name of the associated key (a letter). Then update the MRUList key to take out that letter from the sequence. HTH, Rob David Edson wrote: > > 1.0 I have an annoying problem on my 770ED: I updated many of the modem > files using the external floppy, and now when I pass the cursor past the > 'RUN' selection on the 'Start' menu it hangs at the 'Run' location until a > certain time out occurs if I do not have the 3 1/2 floppy connected. It > should be simple to correct, but I haven't found a way to do it. It did not > do this when I first ran the TP. I assume the problem is caused by the > existence of files with "a:" prefixes. > > 2.0 I am also curious as to others success with the internal modem. It > has been a real pain, from not working at all (the initial set up), to > handshaking problems (doesn't connect), to dropping out. I have used two > other laptops with the same ISP and had no problems logging in and running. > I have put in all of the modem updates, the patch, and the v90 driver. > Most annoying for such a quality machine - I have been very disappointed in > how much time it has taken me to get on line, and shaky at that. It does > connect on my line at work at 4400 bps, and 3200 at home. > > Thanks for any help! > > David -- ----------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob.bell@csc.com ----------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 11:58:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA23745 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:58:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05217; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:55:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:53:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05033; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:53:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-lax-1.pilot.net (mail-lax-1.pilot.net [205.139.40.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05016; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:52:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rand.org (unknown-8-173.rand.org [130.154.8.173] (may be forged)) by mail-lax-1.pilot.net (Pilot/) with ESMTP id IAA22288 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:52:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from dcmail.rand.org (dcmail.rand.org [130.154.32.17]) by mail.rand.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA04239 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:52:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mussington-d (mussington-d.rand.org [130.154.32.178]) by dcmail.rand.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA02453 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:52:38 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "David Mussington" To: "THINKPAD" Subject: Thinkpad 760ELD and Linux Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:50:44 -0500 Message-ID: <000201be3fde$0735ab80$b2209a82@mussington-d.rand.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi: I have set up my Thinkpad 760ELD to use Red Hat Linux 5.2 and Xfree86 3.3.3.1. It is working well, and is definitely a breath of fresh air (after Windows). Anyway, I am unable to configure the CD Rom drive to play audio cds through Linux. I can play them if I use the eject button in the way stipulated in the manual (basically, hold the button in for 2 seconds, and the machine will play any audio cd through the speakers. It actually sounds quite good). The CD Rom is accessible for data cd roms from Linux, and sound is configured correctly. ( I have played test sounds after configuring it using sndconfig). Basically, my question is, does anyone on the list have experience configuring a Thinkpad to play audio cds using Linux, hopefully with this particular model? Thanks in advance for your help in this. The machine has a 775 mb hard drive and 16 mb of ram, and a p100 processor. David Mussington The Truth is Out There. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 12:06:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA23875 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:06:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06201; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:04:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:02:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05938; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:02:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.jaring.my (relay2.jaring.my [192.228.128.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05834; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:01:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from warren1 (j30.sgw32.jaring.my [161.142.28.164]) by relay2.jaring.my (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA20631; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 01:00:35 +0800 (MYT) From: "Warren Tan Wing Wah" To: "D. Talkington" Cc: Subject: RE: [770ED] It won't boot!!! Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 01:01:36 +0800 Message-ID: <000901be3fdf$8bbc8f80$01c8c8c8@warren1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000301be3fd8$a66252e0$2040fea9@tigger> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I'm not too sure about it being a BIOS problem now. I've discovered that the machine boots perfectly well after letting it "rest" for about 5 minutes. Perhaps it's a BIOS feature so one wouldn't turn that thing on and off too much? How else do you explain this? I'm reluctant to bring it back as I've already installed 98 almost flawlessly. Still trying to get my external mouse to work - any tips? - but besides that, it's working fine. > -----Original Message----- > From: D. Talkington [mailto:dtalk@soltec.net] > Sent: Friday, January 15, 1999 12:12 AM > To: Thinkpad LISTSERV > Subject: RE: [770ED] It won't boot!!! > > > I'm not sure I understand why you're bothering with a news > posting for what > is obviously a hardware or BIOS problem with a "brand new" machine. Take > the thing back where you bought it, point at it and emit incoherent whiny > grunts until they exchange it. > > Do make sure you PRECISELY follow the directions for BIOS > upgrades, however. > Unlike software upgrades, a botched BIOS flash upgrade can trash your > motherboard. On that note, I do believe I would refrain from telling the > retailer that you upgraded the BIOS. Might save you a lot of explaining. > =) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 12:24:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA24164 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:24:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07759; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:22:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:19:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07459; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:19:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07410; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:18:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from atreyu (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id LAA04346; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:17:56 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990114111750.007b9850@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:17:50 -0600 To: "Warren Tan Wing Wah" From: Ron Heiby Subject: RE: [770ED] It won't boot!!! Cc: "D. Talkington" , In-Reply-To: <000901be3fdf$8bbc8f80$01c8c8c8@warren1> References: <000301be3fd8$a66252e0$2040fea9@tigger> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 01:01 AM 1/15/99 +0800, Warren Tan Wing Wah wrote: >I'm reluctant to bring it back as I've already installed 98 almost >flawlessly. Swap the hard drives, so you keep the one you've already configured everything onto the way you'd like. There will possibly be a couple of "hiccups". When I did that, for example, I had to re-disable the Mwave internal modem to allow my MHz modem card to be configured and work. Also, the system I got in exchange has an older BIOS rev that I'll probably want to upgrade. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers iQA/AwUBNp4mumasl5Jijs7SEQKknwCg7d0DKT7tzn27KPfgcuoC9zNtnB0AoLaR OS4x3GlCtsNaCaBirWCK3QLJ =RqtY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 12:55:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA24640 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:55:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10861; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:51:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10595; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:51:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10582; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:51:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from jpd (user-38ldd4p.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.180.153]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA11388 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:51:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990114125101.007ddcc0@mindspring.com> X-Sender: jdiebold@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:51:01 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Jean-Pierre Diebold Subject: [TP770ED]: Extra Battery Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hello to everybody, I have just purchased an extra battery for my 770ED. When you insert this second battery on the Ultrabay II it leaves a big opening on the side due to the difference in width of the battery. Is there an accessory that one might add in order to cover that empty space? It is also kind of awkward the way that battery fits in there. You could easily move it around and lose contact. Jean-Pierre From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 14:38:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA26065 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:38:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18370; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:35:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:32:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18113; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:32:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-lax-3.pilot.net (mail-lax-3.pilot.net [205.139.40.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18098; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:32:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rand.org (unknown-6-173.rand.org [130.154.6.173] (may be forged)) by mail-lax-3.pilot.net (Pilot/) with ESMTP id LAA11946; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:32:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from dcmail.rand.org (dcmail.rand.org [130.154.32.17]) by mail.rand.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA19176; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:31:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mussington-d (mussington-d.rand.org [130.154.32.178]) by dcmail.rand.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA05331; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:10:56 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "David Mussington" To: "THINKPAD" , "Jeff De Luca" Subject: RE: Thinkpad 760ELD and Linux Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:09:01 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be3fe8$f6adcb20$b2209a82@mussington-d.rand.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <369E24B0.AB8E2BA@nebulon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi: Thanks for the quick response. I tried your suggestion, and it still doesn't work. xplaycd merely says no disk in the cd dialogue box. Any other tips would be very much appreciated. David Mussington > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff De Luca [mailto:jdl@nebulon.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 12:09 PM > To: dmuss@rand.org > Subject: Re: Thinkpad 760ELD and Linux > > > I recently did the same (RH5.2 on a thinkpad 770). > > My problem was that only root has access to /dev/cdrom. As root > do a chmod 666 > /dev/cdrom then try xplaycd again (or whatever CD player program > you are using). > > jdl > > David Mussington wrote: > > > Hi: > > > > I have set up my Thinkpad 760ELD to use Red Hat Linux 5.2 and Xfree86 > > 3.3.3.1. It is working well, and is definitely a breath of > fresh air (after > > Windows). Anyway, I am unable to configure the CD Rom drive to > play audio > > cds through Linux. I can play them if I use the eject button in the way > > stipulated in the manual (basically, hold the button in for 2 > seconds, and > > the machine will play any audio cd through the speakers. It > actually sounds > > quite good). > > > > The CD Rom is accessible for data cd roms from Linux, and sound is > > configured correctly. ( I have played test sounds after > configuring it using > > sndconfig). > > > > Basically, my question is, does anyone on the list have experience > > configuring a Thinkpad to play audio cds using Linux, hopefully > with this > > particular model? > > > > Thanks in advance for your help in this. > > > > The machine has a 775 mb hard drive and 16 mb of ram, and a > p100 processor. > > > > David Mussington > > > > The Truth is Out There. > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 14:40:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA26077 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18577; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:36:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:35:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18291; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:35:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18249; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:34:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls-dell-15.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA16413; Thu, 14 Jan 99 14:31:30 EST Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (gummi [18.27.0.33]) by sls-dell-15.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id OAA14023; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:31:30 -0500 (EST) Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <369E4611.25C8C65D@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:31:29 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.0-pre7-ac2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Jean-Pierre Diebold Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP770ED]: Extra Battery References: <3.0.5.32.19990114125101.007ddcc0@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: When we bought extra batteries for 770s, they came with a plastic piece that clips onto the battery to give it the proper size to fill the ultrabay. --Lee From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 16:12:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA27818 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:12:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24015; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:08:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:07:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23832; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:07:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23820; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:07:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.15.47]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990114210627.VEGN6556@770>; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:06:27 +0000 Message-ID: <005701be4002$17ebe380$2f0f4f0c@770> From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "David Talkington" , "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: Re: Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:08:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: If you are using DirectCD, you need to install the packet reader software to get your drive to read it! www.adaptec.com -----Original Message----- From: David Talkington To: Thinkpad LISTSERV Date: Thursday, January 14, 1999 11:20 AM >Anyone besides me having great difficulty getting CDs created by Adaptec's >DirectCD to be read in Thinkpads? Mine's a 1720i, and it really doesn't >like home-burned CDs. It's very slow to recognize commercial disks, as >well. Not good for much but installing software, which is ok, but since I >back up software onto homemade CDs, the trouble reading packet-written media >is an issue. Simply won't read some files, and takes a very long time to >pick up others. > >I know not all drives can handle these disks, but this machine is only a >month old, and I thought all (most?) new drives could deal with them. My >workaround is to use a network CD drive, but that's not an option on the >road ... Not really a reason to consider it defective, just an annoying >shortcoming. > >David Talkington >User Support >Prairienet / Community Networking Initiative > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 18:46:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA29861 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:46:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03004; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:45:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:43:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02889; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:43:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.area54.net (mercury.area54.net [205.177.191.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02873; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:43:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA16281; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:43:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:43:30 -0500 (EST) From: Michael To: David Talkington cc: Thinkpad LISTSERV Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <000401be3fd9$72ede900$2040fea9@tigger> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I have a 1720 also and mine has no problems reading directCD disks or any others for that matter.. Even reads CDRW's if I use cd creator (not Direct CD). Michael On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, David Talkington wrote: > Anyone besides me having great difficulty getting CDs created by Adaptec's > DirectCD to be read in Thinkpads? Mine's a 1720i, and it really doesn't > like home-burned CDs. It's very slow to recognize commercial disks, as > well. Not good for much but installing software, which is ok, but since I > back up software onto homemade CDs, the trouble reading packet-written media > is an issue. Simply won't read some files, and takes a very long time to > pick up others. > > I know not all drives can handle these disks, but this machine is only a > month old, and I thought all (most?) new drives could deal with them. My > workaround is to use a network CD drive, but that's not an option on the > road ... Not really a reason to consider it defective, just an annoying > shortcoming. > > David Talkington > User Support > Prairienet / Community Networking Initiative > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 18:53:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA29924 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03396; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:50:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:49:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03292; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:49:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03274; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:49:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-191.usc.edu [128.125.224.191]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id PAA06201; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:49:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990114154118.00ba31e0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:45:34 -0800 To: dtalk@prairienet.org, TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: CD Problem In-Reply-To: <005701be4002$17ebe380$2f0f4f0c@770> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 04:08 PM 1/14/99 -0500, you wrote: >If you are using DirectCD, you need to install the packet reader software to >get your drive to read it! >www.adaptec.com Agreed. Unless you use "Easy CD" (or similar software that writes the CD in the standard fashion all CD's are written in), then quite certainly virtually every other machine will *not* be able to read the CD. DirectCD writes to the CD in packets--sort of the way a hard drive is written to, but certainly not the "sessions" normal CD's are recorded in. Its quite possible to read the packet-written CD on another computer, but DirectCD has to be installed on that other computer to tell it how to read this odd-bird of a packet-written CD. Also, it *could* be your media. What media are you using? Generally new CD drives will read even CD-RW discs, so I'm sure that's not the problem, but even among CD-R's, certain media types just don't want to play nice with certain drives. Experiment with different types of CD-R media to find out what works for yours. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 19:17:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA00323 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:17:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04885; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:16:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:15:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04778; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:15:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iex.net (mail.iex.net [192.156.196.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04764; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:15:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from scansrv (r7a006661ax.hlb.cable.rcn.com [209.122.66.230]) by mail.iex.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA01381; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:10:30 -0700 (MST) Received: by scansrv (VPOP3) with SMTP; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:15:26 -0500 Message-ID: <060b01be401c$26e42360$0100a8c0@pprox2> From: "Robert Briganti" To: , "TP List" , "Randal Whittle" Subject: Re: CD Problem Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:15:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0d - Registered to: LOMAX [DSI] List-Unsubscribe: Adaptec does have a UDF (the packet format) reader on its website but the reader works only with CDRW discs and only with certain drives. ----- Original Message ----- From: Randal Whittle To: ; TP List Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 18:45 Subject: Re: CD Problem >At 04:08 PM 1/14/99 -0500, you wrote: >>If you are using DirectCD, you need to install the packet reader software to >>get your drive to read it! >>www.adaptec.com > > Agreed. Unless you use "Easy CD" (or similar software that writes the CD >in the standard fashion all CD's are written in), then quite certainly >virtually every other machine will *not* be able to read the CD. > > DirectCD writes to the CD in packets--sort of the way a hard drive is >written to, but certainly not the "sessions" normal CD's are recorded in. > > Its quite possible to read the packet-written CD on another computer, but >DirectCD has to be installed on that other computer to tell it how to read >this odd-bird of a packet-written CD. > > Also, it *could* be your media. What media are you using? Generally new >CD drives will read even CD-RW discs, so I'm sure that's not the problem, >but even among CD-R's, certain media types just don't want to play nice >with certain drives. Experiment with different types of CD-R media to find >out what works for yours. > >- Randy Whittle > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 19:43:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA00594 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06092; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:42:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05991; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.243]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05977; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:42:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ordig696 (slip129-37-165-238.pq.ca.ibm.net [129.37.165.238]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA17270 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:42:14 GMT Message-ID: <001a01be4020$2a413440$eea52581@ordig696> Reply-To: "pkvp Hamelin" From: "pkvp Hamelin" To: "ThinkPad" Subject: unsubscibe leham@ibm.net Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:44:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01BE3FF6.3F5C2260" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BE3FF6.3F5C2260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe leham@ibm.net ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BE3FF6.3F5C2260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BE3FF6.3F5C2260-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 14 20:23:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA01041 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:23:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08100; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:22:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:21:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08013; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:21:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from franklin.lisco.net (root@ns3.lisco.com [206.26.90.190]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08000; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:21:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad-770ed (fairfield-40.lisco.com [206.26.90.110]) by franklin.lisco.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA00414 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:21:31 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002501be4025$2fd66560$6e5a1ace@thinkpad-770ed> From: "David Edson" To: Subject: Re: Help: How do you clear the Run "most recently used" selection list on the Start menu AND Q on the modem Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:20:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Thanks to all that gave me help! I downloaded the Power Toys from MicroSoft and installed the TweakUI program. It does have a section under 'paranoia' that lets you delete on startup various files and lists, including the MRU list. After playing with it for a while it became apparent that it didn't cleanup the list under the RUN selection. So, with some misgiving, I opened the registry editor (Regedit) and proceeded to look for all occurrences of A:. It worked, in that the RUN list was clean. But... the problem persisted. Going to the RUN selection would 'time out' for about 30 seconds before showing the entry box. Hmmm, so I had a friend check his machine, and it was ok, and he had updated the modem drivers too from drive a:. So I finally found the culprit: I had installed a program called 'Nuts & Bolts". It enabled some features related to launching (speeding up ironically) programs. Once N&B was disabled, all is fine. N&B is too 'stupid' (expletives deleted) to know that a: isn't accessible. I don't know if helps anyone else, but I thought I'd post my results. Ciao! David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 11:38:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA08681 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:38:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18640; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:36:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:32:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18277; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:32:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out-0.tiac.net (mail-out-0.tiac.net [199.0.65.247]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18264; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out-2.tiac.net (mail-out-2.tiac.net [199.0.65.13]) by mail-out-0.tiac.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24019 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:32:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ecottrell@Doble.com) Received: from ntmail.doble.com (ntmail.doble.com [204.215.186.11]) by mail-out-2.tiac.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA23232 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 06:35:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ecottrell@Doble.com) Received: by ntmail.doble.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BE4079.8911ACD0@ntmail.doble.com>; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:23:54 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'David Talkington'" , "'Michael'" Cc: "'Thinkpad LISTSERV'" Subject: RE: your mail Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:23:53 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I think it has been pointed out before that some CD-Rom drives may have problems reading certain CD-R media. I would try a different color media or see what media people have used successfully in the Thinkpad. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com >---------- >From: Michael[SMTP:michael@area54.net] >Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 6:43 PM >To: David Talkington >Cc: Thinkpad LISTSERV >Subject: Re: your mail > > >I have a 1720 also and mine has no problems reading directCD disks >or any others for that matter.. Even reads CDRW's if I use cd creator >(not Direct CD). > >Michael > > >On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, David Talkington wrote: > >> Anyone besides me having great difficulty getting CDs created by Adaptec's >> DirectCD to be read in Thinkpads? Mine's a 1720i, and it really doesn't >> like home-burned CDs. It's very slow to recognize commercial disks, as >> well. Not good for much but installing software, which is ok, but since I >> back up software onto homemade CDs, the trouble reading packet-written >>media >> is an issue. Simply won't read some files, and takes a very long time to >> pick up others. >> >> I know not all drives can handle these disks, but this machine is only a >> month old, and I thought all (most?) new drives could deal with them. My >> workaround is to use a network CD drive, but that's not an option on the >> road ... Not really a reason to consider it defective, just an annoying >> shortcoming. >> >> David Talkington >> User Support >> Prairienet / Community Networking Initiative >> > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 12:48:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA09427 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:48:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22957; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:46:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:44:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22821; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22808; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:44:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-089.usc.edu [128.125.224.89]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id JAA28081; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:42:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990115094000.00b66100@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:42:19 -0800 To: "Cottrell, Eric" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: CD-R's in TP's In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:23 AM 1/15/99 -0500, you wrote: >I think it has been pointed out before that some CD-Rom drives may >have problems reading certain CD-R media. I would try a different >color media or see what media people have used successfully >in the Thinkpad. For what its worth, I've had no difficulty reading in my TP600's CD drive generic Gold/Gold media and also CD-RW media. Haven't tried anything else. Everything was written at 2x with a Yamaha drive. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 12:53:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA09487 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:53:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23541; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:53:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:52:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23406; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:52:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from send103.yahoomail.com (send103.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.92]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23386; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:52:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990115175422.14447.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> Received: from [134.100.71.238] by send103.yahoomail.com; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:54:22 PST Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:54:22 -0800 (PST) From: swjatoslaw gerus Subject: Ibm560 competitor To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Gentleman's Can you say some info about comparsion IBM560x-z with competitor : Gateway 3100,Micron GoBook2,Portege 7010,Panasonic CF-71. I would very pleased for some kind of info Yours Respectfully Gerus _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 12:57:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA09551 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:57:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23913; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:56:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:55:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23762; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from send1e.yahoomail.com (send1e.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23749; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:55:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990115175045.11759.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Received: from [134.100.71.238] by send1e; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:50:45 PST Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:50:45 -0800 (PST) From: swjatoslaw gerus Subject: Ibm560 competitor To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Gentleman's Can you say some info about comparsion IBM560x-z with competitor : Gateway 3100,Micron GoBook2,Portege 7010,Panasonic CF-71. I would very pleased for some kind of info Yours Respectfully Gerus _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 13:09:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09671 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:09:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24741; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:08:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:07:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24642; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:07:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcom19.netcom.com (phr@netcom19.netcom.com [192.100.81.132]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24629; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:07:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom19.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id KAA13388 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:07:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:07:42 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199901151807.KAA13388@netcom19.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: extra 770 battery List-Unsubscribe: Spare 770 batteries are supposed to come with a little spacer that clips on the side, that makes them fill the ultrabay. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 13:11:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09713 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25086; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:09:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24986; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:09:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24887; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:09:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-089.usc.edu [128.125.224.89]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id KAA08923; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:09:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990115100353.00b66860@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:09:21 -0800 To: swjatoslaw gerus , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Ibm560 competitor In-Reply-To: <19990115175422.14447.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:54 AM 1/15/99 -0800, you wrote: >Can you say some info about comparsion IBM560x-z >with competitor : >Gateway 3100,Micron GoBook2,Portege 7010,Panasonic CF-71. In my view, one doesn't even compare machines in IBM's class with those in another class entirely. That is, ThinkPads compare to the likes of Toshiba, perhaps NEC, and a very few others. Then there's all the mail-order machines--the Gateways, the Dells, the Microns, the Winbooks, etc.. All you have to do is use a machine from each "class" and you'll know the difference. The fit & finish, the quality of support, software tools specific to the notebook, etc. Of course, one class is much cheaper--and if that's your budget, that's perfectly fine. But they're cheaper for a reason. Personally, I'm all for cheap clone machines for desktop PC's. I've owned all three of the major mail-ordering co's. machines for that at one time or another. But when it comes to laptops...the package has to be there the way you want it right up front. No way to "fix it up" later. I've been unhappy anytime I got a lesser (that is, lesser than a ThinkPad) machine. I'll pay the extra money and won't regret it. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 15:42:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA11690 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:42:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03322; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:40:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:38:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03076; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:38:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net [206.141.239.142]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03061; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from big-man ([199.179.167.48]) by mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990115203720.CIOL2959@big-man> for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:37:20 -0600 Message-ID: <003601be40c6$796ad7a0$8fb8b3c7@big-man> From: "George Neurauter" To: Subject: Hello everyone! Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:33:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01BE4094.0E2CB120" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BE4094.0E2CB120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Just found out about this list the other day. I study computer = engineering at the University of Illinois and own a i1410. Everything it = has is right out of the factory except a 3Com CardBus 10/100 Ethernet PC = card that I haven't tried yet. I used to have one of those CTX 700E $#@! = I had a lot of problems with their brand (CD-ROM out of balance so the = whole notebook shakes, Win 98 preloaded wrong, problems with 3rd party = SDRAM memory, incompatibility with 3Com ethernet cards). CTX support is = pretty bad as well. That's when I settled on the i1410 when it first = came out. I had originally planned to sell it because I didn't really = need it, but it worked out that I did keep and I'm happy with it. I wish = I had a 770ED, but you can't have everything. :) I had some questions: Can the battery be overcharged if left in its slot while the AC power is = plugged in? I ask this because there is no cover for the slot when the = battery is out. I got a misc. kit from IBM that had a battery slot cover = in it, but I'm not sure how to attach it. Seems that IBM forgot = something here. Has anyone noticed that when the machine hibernates and you open the = case to wake it up that the battery life % is inaccurate? It's not much = but I thought somebody might have a thought on it. Thanks! 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Hi all,
 
Just found out about this list the other day. I = study computer=20 engineering at the University of Illinois and own a i1410. Everything it = has is=20 right out of the factory except a 3Com CardBus 10/100 Ethernet PC card = that I=20 haven't tried yet. I used to have one of those CTX 700E $#@! I had a lot = of=20 problems with their brand (CD-ROM out of balance so the whole notebook = shakes,=20 Win 98 preloaded wrong, problems with 3rd party SDRAM memory, = incompatibility=20 with 3Com ethernet cards). CTX support is pretty bad as well. That's = when I=20 settled on the i1410 when it first came out. I had originally planned to = sell it=20 because I didn't really need it, but it worked out that I did keep and = I'm happy=20 with it. I wish I had a 770ED, but you can't have everything. = :)
 
I had some questions:
 
Can the battery be overcharged if left in its slot = while the=20 AC power is plugged in? I ask this because there is no cover for the = slot when=20 the battery is out. I got a misc. kit from IBM that had a battery slot = cover in=20 it, but I'm not sure how to attach it. Seems that IBM forgot something=20 here.
 
Has anyone noticed that when the = machine=20 hibernates and you open the case to wake it up that the battery life % = is=20 inaccurate? It's not much but I thought somebody might have a thought on = it.
 
Thanks!
 
George Neurauter
neurautr@uiuc.edu or
gneurauter@ameritech.net
------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BE4094.0E2CB120-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 16:29:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12386 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:28:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05284; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:15:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:14:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05190; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from sarah.albany.edu (sarah.albany.edu [169.226.1.103]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05170; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:14:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from user (81.new-york-18-19rs.ny.dial-access.att.net [12.79.1.81]) by sarah.albany.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA06465 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:14:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901152114.QAA06465@sarah.albany.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Ken's E-mail Client 1998 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:13:13 -0500 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [770ED] Suspend/hibernate fixed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Neither suspend nor hibernate were working in Win95B on my 770ED. I randomly uninstalled lots of stuff, turned lots of devices off and on, installed nearly every upgrade from IBM's site, but to no avail. Finally, I turned off, in Thinkpad Configuration, most devices: Serial and parallel (although I had tried that before), modem, trackpoint, Ultrabay hot swap, audio (tried that before too). I also turned off USB in device manager. Upon reboot, I got a weird Thinkpad screen (it was a picture of a "0 Off --> 1 On" flickering at me). All I could do was power off and on again. Then, when Windows started, it found new hardware: "Motherboard resources" (there were already two such entries in Device Manager). Anyway, upon successful start, suspend and hibernate worked again. I turned every device back on (when turning on Ultrabay hot swap and rebooting, I got that weird Off On screen again). Now Suspend and Hibernate work just fine. Very odd. My unscientific conclusion was that it had something to do with Ultrabay or USB, except that, of course, now that both those things are back on, everything's fine, and also I can't figure out what event triggered this problem in the first place (except maybe installing LapLink95, not that I can explain that). This was a special problem, too, because I think it's the first problem I've posted that I hadn't gotten a single response from the list about. Anyway, it's all better now. Any thoughts on why this happened? Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 18:02:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA13652 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 18:02:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11009; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 18:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:59:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10881; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:59:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from deimos.nc.com (deimos.nc.com [207.88.167.190]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10859; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:59:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from nc.com (pm3a-21.nc.com [172.20.129.21]) by deimos.nc.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA26091 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:53:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <369FC82D.AAF6BBF6@nc.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:58:53 -0800 From: "George S. Kong" Organization: Network Computer, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: want to use a CD-R burner with my TP760EL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: i'm sure this has been discussed here before, but i wasn't interested until now :-) i have TP760EL runnning (i think) original Win 95 (not OSR2). i'd like to burn CDs, for backup and data exchange. has anyone gone down this path, and found a good, painless, inexpensive solution? thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------- George S. Kong, Network Computer Inc, george at nc dot com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 19:12:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA14515 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:12:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01808; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:11:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:09:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01668; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:09:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01655; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:09:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgoldman.vip.best.com (dgoldman.vip.best.com [204.156.137.147]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id QAA07923 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:07:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990115160130.00b02ce0@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:06:55 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Re: Hello everyone! In-Reply-To: <003601be40c6$796ad7a0$8fb8b3c7@big-man> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 02:33 PM 1/15/99 -0600, you wrote: > > Hi all, > > Can the battery be overcharged if left in its slot while the AC power is plugged in? I ask this because there is no > cover for the slot when the battery is out. I got a misc. kit from IBM that had a battery slot cover in it, but I'm > not sure how to attach it. Seems that IBM forgot something here. > > Has anyone noticed that when the machine hibernates and you open the case to wake it up that the battery life % is > inaccurate? It's not much but I thought somebody might have a thought on it. 1) No, you cannot overcharge a battery in any laptop. The charging system will stop when the battery is fully charged. 2) In what way is the battery life % inaccurate? Are you aware that if a fully charged battery is left unused, it will lose a certain percentage of its charge every day? For example, most Ni-Cad batteries will lose about 3% of their charge in 24 hours. So if you hibernate a laptop on Monday with 63% charge and restart it on Tuesday with 59-61% charge, everything is just about right. On the other hand, if you hibernate a laptop on Monday morning with 82% and restart it a few hours later with 24%, then there may be a problem. Giving details to this group will help us to provide accurate answers. -- David Goldman From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 20:55:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA15570 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:55:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05584; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:55:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:53:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05469; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:53:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05454; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:53:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp165.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.165]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id TAA03853 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:53:08 -0600 (CST) From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: [770ED] Suspend/hibernate fixed Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:52:40 -0600 Message-ID: <000601be40f2$e6839940$00c4fea9@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <199901152114.QAA06465@sarah.albany.edu> List-Unsubscribe: Assuming these settings are correct in your BIOS (you did check that, right? -- the configuration utility is a nice front end, but you can access all that stuff directly in BIOS), the first thing I'd try next time, given what you described, is to remove Advanced Power Management from the System Devices tree in device manager. Reboot, Windows will detect APM support and reinstall it. That should fix the power problems. Does this sound reasonable to everyone else? For the record, this is also Microsoft's official solution to restoring "suspend" to the shutdown menu options if it's been removed. -d > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken [mailto:kenzo@free-music.com] > Sent: Friday, January 15, 1999 3:13 PM > To: Thinkpad > Subject: [770ED] Suspend/hibernate fixed > > > Neither suspend nor hibernate were working in Win95B on my 770ED. > > I randomly uninstalled lots of stuff, turned lots of devices off and on, > installed nearly every upgrade from IBM's site, but to no avail. > > Finally, I turned off, in Thinkpad Configuration, most devices: Serial and > parallel (although I had tried that before), modem, trackpoint, Ultrabay > hot swap, audio (tried that before too). I also turned off USB in device > manager. > > Upon reboot, I got a weird Thinkpad screen (it was a picture of a "0 Off > --> 1 On" flickering at me). All I could do was power off and on again. > Then, when Windows started, it found new hardware: "Motherboard resources" > (there were already two such entries in Device Manager). Anyway, upon > successful start, suspend and hibernate worked again. > > I turned every device back on (when turning on Ultrabay hot swap and > rebooting, I got that weird Off On screen again). Now Suspend and > Hibernate work just fine. > > Very odd. My unscientific conclusion was that it had something to do with > Ultrabay or USB, except that, of course, now that both those things are > back on, everything's fine, and also I can't figure out what event > triggered this problem in the first place (except maybe installing > LapLink95, not that I can explain that). > > This was a special problem, too, because I think it's the first problem > I've posted that I hadn't gotten a single response from the list about. > > Anyway, it's all better now. Any thoughts on why this happened? > > Ken > kenzo@free-music.com > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 21:01:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA15605 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:01:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05993; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:00:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:59:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05832; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:59:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05819; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:59:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp165.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.165]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id TAA04347 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:59:16 -0600 (CST) From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: CD-R problems: addendum Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:58:48 -0600 Message-ID: <000701be40f3$c1ba5f80$00c4fea9@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990115094000.00b66100@rcf.usc.edu> List-Unsubscribe: Thanks to all who responded. Some pointed out that standard CD-ROMs cannot read UDF disks on their own -- this is true, and is not what I'm doing. DirectCD provides an option to format the disk to make it readable in standard CD drives, and that's what I've done to them. The disks subsequently read fine in my Toshiba 430, and in a generic CD drive in a server at our warehouse, but not reliably on my 1720. I stress "reliably", because some files read fine, but the drive chokes on lots of others, all of which are ok in the other two drives I mentioned. I believe what I need is a way to record CDs in one session, as opposed to the multiple writes that DirectCD makes. I thought Easy CD Creator was only for audio disks -- is it also intended for single-session data CDs? Is there a different utility which will do what I want? I will also experiment with different brands and types of media, and thanks to those who suggested that I do so. G'day -David > -----Original Message----- > From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@usa.net] > Sent: Friday, January 15, 1999 11:42 AM > To: Cottrell, Eric; TP List > Subject: CD-R's in TP's > > > At 11:23 AM 1/15/99 -0500, you wrote: > >I think it has been pointed out before that some CD-Rom drives may > >have problems reading certain CD-R media. I would try a different > >color media or see what media people have used successfully > >in the Thinkpad. > > For what its worth, I've had no difficulty reading in my > TP600's CD drive > generic Gold/Gold media and also CD-RW media. Haven't tried > anything else. > > Everything was written at 2x with a Yamaha drive. > > - Randy Whittle > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 21:05:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA15637 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:05:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06347; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:04:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:03:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06155; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:03:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06138; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:03:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.14.78]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990116020250.FSHH8733@770>; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:02:50 +0000 Message-ID: <369FF3D4.307B@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:05:08 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "George S. Kong" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: want to use a CD-R burner with my TP760EL References: <369FC82D.AAF6BBF6@nc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I use a 760ED as my CD burner. Ricoh external SCSI CD-RW hooked into the SCSI port on a Dock 2 (you can get the Dock 2 REAL cheap now). I tried this on a 755CE DX-100, and it worked! I use a Toshiba SCSI 32X CD-ROM in the Dock as a source CD. The ThinkPad 20X works well for all except audio CD extraction, the 4X is not really suitable for this. But, you can always use the burner to copy by sending to the Hard Drive first, then back to the burner. So you don't always need a source CD drive, although it is faster. George S. Kong wrote: > > i'm sure this has been discussed here before, but i wasn't > interested until now :-) > > i have TP760EL runnning (i think) original Win 95 (not OSR2). > i'd like to burn CDs, for backup and data exchange. > has anyone gone down this path, and found a good, painless, > inexpensive solution? > > thanks. > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > George S. Kong, Network Computer Inc, george at nc dot com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 21:11:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA15700 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:11:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06849; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:10:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:09:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06640; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:09:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06626; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:09:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.14.78]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990116020839.CALV21233@770>; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:08:39 +0000 Message-ID: <001a01be40f5$7a68b440$4e0e4f0c@770> From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "David Talkington" , "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: Re: CD-R problems: addendum Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:11:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Nope, you are a little confused. STOP using DirectCD, and use CD Creator to make multi-session data CD-s' That'll cure your problems The DirectCD stuff is just not that reliable (IMHO), and with the price of blank CD's down around $1.00, it is just not worth the hassle. -----Original Message----- From: David Talkington To: Thinkpad LISTSERV Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 9:01 PM Subject: CD-R problems: addendum >Thanks to all who responded. Some pointed out that standard CD-ROMs cannot >read UDF disks on their own -- this is true, and is not what I'm doing. >DirectCD provides an option to format the disk to make it readable in >standard CD drives, and that's what I've done to them. The disks >subsequently read fine in my Toshiba 430, and in a generic CD drive in a >server at our warehouse, but not reliably on my 1720. I stress "reliably", >because some files read fine, but the drive chokes on lots of others, all of >which are ok in the other two drives I mentioned. > >I believe what I need is a way to record CDs in one session, as opposed to >the multiple writes that DirectCD makes. I thought Easy CD Creator was only >for audio disks -- is it also intended for single-session data CDs? Is >there a different utility which will do what I want? > >I will also experiment with different brands and types of media, and thanks >to those who suggested that I do so. > >G'day >-David > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@usa.net] >> Sent: Friday, January 15, 1999 11:42 AM >> To: Cottrell, Eric; TP List >> Subject: CD-R's in TP's >> >> >> At 11:23 AM 1/15/99 -0500, you wrote: >> >I think it has been pointed out before that some CD-Rom drives may >> >have problems reading certain CD-R media. I would try a different >> >color media or see what media people have used successfully >> >in the Thinkpad. >> >> For what its worth, I've had no difficulty reading in my >> TP600's CD drive >> generic Gold/Gold media and also CD-RW media. Haven't tried >> anything else. >> >> Everything was written at 2x with a Yamaha drive. >> >> - Randy Whittle >> > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 21:17:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA15750 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:17:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07215; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:16:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:15:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07051; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:15:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from centurion.flash.net (centurion.flash.net [209.30.0.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07037; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:15:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ycxfssto (p19.amax16.dialup.det1.flash.net [208.194.218.19]) by centurion.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA25855 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:15:03 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990115170303.0094b3f0@pop.flash.net> X-Sender: ljmason9@pop.flash.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:09:35 -0500 To: Mik Tip From: Laura Mason Subject: sticky keys? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: On my Thinkpad 600 just had the weird experience of the keyboard characters getting scrambled. hitting backspace would give \, etc. also my mail program lost its preview function. I thought it was modem related but when I tried my word processor and I got the same result. A Cold boot solved the problems - but does anyone want to guess what caused them. I only have 32 mg of memory - had this laptop since Sept. without any problem before. Laura From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 22:21:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA16247 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:21:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09114; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:20:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:19:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09019; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:19:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (IDENT:kim@fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09004; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:19:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA02015 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:19:39 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:19:39 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: Thinkpad LISTSERV Subject: Re: CD-R problems: addendum In-Reply-To: <000701be40f3$c1ba5f80$00c4fea9@tigger> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, David Talkington wrote: > Thanks to all who responded. Some pointed out that standard CD-ROMs cannot > read UDF disks on their own -- this is true, and is not what I'm doing. > DirectCD provides an option to format the disk to make it readable in > standard CD drives, and that's what I've done to them. The disks I don't follow. Normal CDs (ISO-9660) are not formatted. They are written in a continuous session (literally one spiral track). If you are formatting a CD, you are using UDF (which divides the CD into sectors and cylinder/tracks). The only thing I can think of that could be happening is that DirectCD is misusing the word "format," and is writing an IS0-9660 session (single or multi - probably multi) to the CD. > I believe what I need is a way to record CDs in one session, as opposed to > the multiple writes that DirectCD makes. I thought Easy CD Creator was only > for audio disks -- is it also intended for single-session data CDs? Is > there a different utility which will do what I want? Easy CD Creator is really the tool you should be using to make single and multiple session CDs. Direct CD's primary use is for UDF disks, and I've found it to be rather unreliable in general. > I will also experiment with different brands and types of media, and thanks > to those who suggested that I do so. I agree with the other folks that this is probably the problem. Some drives just don't like certain color CDs. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 22:50:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA16490 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:50:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09947; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:49:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:48:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09855; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from pgh.nauticom.net (pgh.nauticom.net [198.190.226.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09842; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:48:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomscomputer (18.pitt1.pitt.dialup.nauticom.net [209.195.137.18]) by pgh.nauticom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA26431 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:49:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000101be4103$99f91da0$1289c3d1@tomscomputer> From: "Thomas A. Jones" To: "ThinkPad" Subject: Internal Zip Drive Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:52:11 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: ThinkPad 770X I have a CNF Zip Drive, but have found it cannot be hot swapped. Can the AST Zip Drive for the 770 be hot swapped? From the literature I've read on it, it appears to be able to be hot swapped. the CNF is definitely not hot swappable & says so on the instructions with it.. Thanks for any info Tom Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 22:59:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA16551 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:59:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10410; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:58:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:58:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10320; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10307; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:58:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from user ([12.79.50.25]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990116035729.DQFJ21233@user> for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 03:57:29 +0000 Message-Id: X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Ken's E-mail Client 1998 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:23:26 -0500 To: Thinkpad From: Ken Subject: [770ED] Comes/came with Lotus Smart Suite 97? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Just running the "Thinkpad Customization Center" HTML files on my 770ED, so I could uninstall some of the preinstalled software. It mentions "Lotus Smart Suite 97" as preinstalled. My machine didn't come with this set of software. Was it supposed to? Is it actually on the CD that came with the machine? Or did IBM used to bundle this software, stopped doing so, but forgot to update the configuration software? Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 23:04:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA16584 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:04:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10835; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:03:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:03:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10667; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10653; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:02:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp145.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.145]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id WAA13337 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:02:46 -0600 (CST) From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: CD-R problems: addendum Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:02:18 -0600 Message-ID: <000801be4105$0277cc40$9381fea9@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00e201be40f5$45f32380$0100a8c0@pprox2> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: > What operating system are you running? Win95 OSR2 shouldn't have any > trouble but earlier versions of windows might. Also, you may have a > defective CDROM drive. Win98; OS isn't the problem. It seems unlikely to me that the drive is actually defective. This one is made by Sanyo, judging by the installed driver, and it's not on Adaptec's list of proven-compatibles. I suppose there may be a misalignment in the drive that's causing it to choke on these disks, but if avoiding multi-session disks is the solution, I'd rather do that than live without the floppy drive (which is an integral part of the drive) while I send it for exchange. The problems with these packet-type disks are well documented enough that I'm willing to forgive an occasional drive that has trouble with them. Even drives that read them reliably usually won't do so without a helluva lot of fuss and noise. I just think it's odd that one sold by IBM would be a troublesome model, hence my question. Thanks again to all that responded. -David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 23:05:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA16594 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:05:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11033; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:04:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:03:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10718; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:03:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10683; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:03:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp145.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.145]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id WAA13348 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:02:53 -0600 (CST) From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: sticky keys? Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:02:25 -0600 Message-ID: <000901be4105$067dc420$9381fea9@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990115170303.0094b3f0@pop.flash.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: My first suspect is moisture. Assuming you didn't spill anything in it, was it excessively warm and/or humid the day it happened? If so, and a reboot cured it, shrug and move on. I used to have an XT clone that could almost tell me the barometric pressure by the number of garbled characters per line of text. =) > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Mason [mailto:ljmason9@flash.net] > Sent: Friday, January 15, 1999 4:10 PM > To: Mik Tip > Subject: sticky keys? > > > On my Thinkpad 600 just had the weird experience of the keyboard > characters getting scrambled. > hitting backspace would give \, etc. > also my mail program lost its preview function. > I thought it was modem related but when I tried my word processor > and I got > the same result. > > A Cold boot solved the problems - but does anyone want to guess > what caused > them. > > I only have 32 mg of memory - had this laptop since Sept. without any > problem before. > > > Laura > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 23:07:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA16628 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:07:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11298; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:06:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:05:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11140; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:05:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11127; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:05:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from user ([12.79.50.25]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990116040510.DTBZ21233@user>; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 04:05:10 +0000 X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Ken's E-mail Client 1998 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:59:57 -0500 To: "David Talkington" , "Thinkpad LISTSERV" From: Ken Subject: RE: [770ED] Suspend/hibernate fixed In-Reply-To: <000601be40f2$e6839940$00c4fea9@tigger> References: <199901152114.QAA06465@sarah.albany.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <19990116040510.DTBZ21233@user> List-Unsubscribe: >Assuming these settings are correct in your BIOS (you did check that, >right? -- the configuration utility is a nice front end, but you can access >all that stuff directly in BIOS), the first thing I'd try next time, given Are you saying I should've gone to the boot screen and verified that every device was listed correctly? I'm not sure I understand what else you might mean. >what you described, is to remove Advanced Power Management from the System >Devices tree in device manager. Reboot, Windows will detect APM support and I'd thought about power management problems, but hadn't realized it was safe to uninstall that item. Anyway, I'm still left wondering how my problem got fixed. Thanks for the thoughts, Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 23:08:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA16643 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:08:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11515; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:07:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:06:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11207; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:06:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11166; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:05:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from user ([12.79.50.25]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990116040522.DTEN21233@user>; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 04:05:22 +0000 X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Ken's E-mail Client 1998 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:02:31 -0500 To: Bruce Markowitz From: Ken Subject: Re: want to use a CD-R burner with my TP760EL Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <369FF3D4.307B@worldnet.att.net> References: <369FC82D.AAF6BBF6@nc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <19990116040522.DTEN21233@user> List-Unsubscribe: At 09:05 PM 1/15/99 -0500, Bruce Markowitz wrote: >I use a 760ED as my CD burner. Ricoh external SCSI CD-RW hooked into the >SCSI port on a Dock 2 (you can get the Dock 2 REAL cheap now). I tried What model CD-RW drive? Is this really an external drive, or is it a regular drive connected to an external SCSI casing? Thanks, Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 23:24:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA16767 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:24:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12271; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:23:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:22:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12157; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12144; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from plano1 (sdn-ar-001txdallP011.dialsprint.net [168.191.156.19]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA02694; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:22:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001201be4107$e6c68920$ba370418@plano1.tx.home.com> Reply-To: "Rex Ramos" From: "Rex Ramos" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: Re: [770ED] Suspend/hibernate fixed Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:22:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >>what you described, is to remove Advanced Power Management from the >>System Devices tree in device manager. Reboot, Windows will detect APM >>support . . . I just tried this approach, because suspend/hibernate has not worked on my 770E, despite numerous attempts to update what seems like hundreds of IBM drivers. After removing Advanced Power Management from the System Devices tree in device manager, I rebooted, but WIN98 did not automatically detect APM on startup. I selected Add New Hardware from the control panel, and WIN98 then found APM and installed it correctly. My 770E can now suspend/hibernate. Thanks for the help. Rex --------------------- Rex Ramos Dallas, Texas From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 23:31:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA16832 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:31:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12631; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:30:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:29:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12537; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:29:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12524; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:29:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.18.73]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990116042858.DICG25748@770>; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 04:28:58 +0000 Message-ID: <36A0161B.22AA@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:31:23 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: want to use a CD-R burner with my TP760EL References: <369FC82D.AAF6BBF6@nc.com> <19990116040522.DTEN21233@user> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: It is a real external. You could also put an internal into the Dock 2! en wrote: > > At 09:05 PM 1/15/99 -0500, Bruce Markowitz wrote: > >I use a 760ED as my CD burner. Ricoh external SCSI CD-RW hooked into the > >SCSI port on a Dock 2 (you can get the Dock 2 REAL cheap now). I tried > > What model CD-RW drive? Is this really an external drive, or is it a > regular drive connected to an external SCSI casing? > > Thanks, > > Ken > kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 23:32:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA16841 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:32:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12868; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:30:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12716; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:30:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12692; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:30:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.18.73]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990116042951.DIIF25748@770>; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 04:29:51 +0000 Message-ID: <36A01651.852@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:32:17 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: want to use a CD-R burner with my TP760EL References: <369FC82D.AAF6BBF6@nc.com> <19990116040522.DTEN21233@user> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Oroginally I used it with an Adaptec PCMCIA SCSI card, but it is really more convenient to have it plugged into the Dock 2. Works fine with the PCMCIA card, though. Ken wrote: > > At 09:05 PM 1/15/99 -0500, Bruce Markowitz wrote: > >I use a 760ED as my CD burner. Ricoh external SCSI CD-RW hooked into the > >SCSI port on a Dock 2 (you can get the Dock 2 REAL cheap now). I tried > > What model CD-RW drive? Is this really an external drive, or is it a > regular drive connected to an external SCSI casing? > > Thanks, > > Ken > kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 15 23:52:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA16987 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:52:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13592; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:51:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:50:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13507; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:50:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13485; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:50:42 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from AlanCDane@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id RYTNa03212; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:37:48 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:37:48 EST To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net, kenzo@free-music.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: want to use a CD-R burner with my TP760EL Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 List-Unsubscribe: I see mention this Dock 2 for a TP 760 ED...I'm looking for one, and I understand you can get them pretty cheap, so if anyone has a source for them, please let me know. thanks Alan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 00:18:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA17239 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:18:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14890; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:17:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:17:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14794; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:17:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.wsl.com.my ([202.190.130.226]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14781; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from warren1 (j56.sgw31.jaring.my[161.142.28.250])by NS1(MailMax 2.040) with ESMTP id 0 for warren@warrentan.com; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:19:25 +0800 From: "Warren Tan Wing Wah" To: Subject: RE: [770ED] It won't boot!!! Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:17:53 +0800 Message-ID: <000301be410f$91bab5c0$01c8c8c8@warren1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Thanks to all who replied! I sent it back to IBM and they repaired it is less than 18 hours! The motherboard and processor were replaced. While I must admit that the service was good, I still can't phantom how a machine as ridiculously expensive as this can just fail after a few days. I mean, even my cheap Acers didn't do this to me. Or am I just the unlucky one with the one-machine-in-a-million failure rate? Two other issues I wish to discuss with the list: 1. I'm no fan of Windows, but I've grown to use the "start" button on keyboards quite a lot. Imagine my surprise to see the Thinkpad without the start button on the keyboard! I'm using Windows 98 now, any ideas how I can reprogram the left "ctrl" key to become the "start" key? 2. The modem is horrible. It's not my phone line, because both my desktop and my Xircom 56k modem using the same phone line can achieve 46000bps rates. My el expensivo Thinkpad's modem, shame on it, has only been up to 32000 max. Any suggestions on improving it? The v.90 upgrade didn't help. Or are we all befalled with this same fate? Thanks, happy computing! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 00:51:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA17463 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:51:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16152; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:51:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:50:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16003; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:50:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15990; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:50:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-076.usc.edu [128.125.224.76]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id VAA21579; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:50:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990115214251.00bbc100@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:43:39 -0800 To: "Thomas A. Jones" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Internal Zip Drive In-Reply-To: <000101be4103$99f91da0$1289c3d1@tomscomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:52 PM 1/15/99 -0500, you wrote: >I have a CNF Zip Drive, but have found it cannot be hot swapped. > >Can the AST Zip Drive for the 770 be hot swapped? From the literature I've >read on it, it appears to be able to be hot swapped. If you mean *VST* Zip drive, the answer is still no. This was discussed a couple of weeks ago. - Randy From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 01:08:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA17555 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 01:08:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16875; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 01:07:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 01:07:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16786; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 01:06:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from out4.ibm.net (out4.ibm.net [165.87.194.239]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16763; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 01:06:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad (client-118-10.bellatlantic.net [151.198.118.10]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA40994; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 06:06:46 GMT Message-ID: <000601be4116$66cf4c20$0a76c697@thinkpad> From: "Donald Mak" To: "Warren Tan Wing Wah" , Subject: Re: [770ED] It won't boot!!! Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 01:06:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Part of that good service is why you paid the high price.(G) You had said that the system failed after flasshing the BIOS. A while back there were problems with wrong BIOS's and software intended for other systems being mixed up. The system not booting past the mem count sounds like a symtom of a bad flash. In that's the case IBM is getting sloppy in managing the FTP's and downloads which could cost them dearly..... -----Original Message----- From: Warren Tan Wing Wah To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 12:17 AM Subject: RE: [770ED] It won't boot!!! >Thanks to all who replied! I sent it back to IBM and they repaired it is >less than 18 hours! The motherboard and processor were replaced. > >While I must admit that the service was good, I still can't phantom how a >machine as ridiculously expensive as this can just fail after a few days. I >mean, even my cheap Acers didn't do this to me. Or am I just the unlucky >one with the one-machine-in-a-million failure rate? > >Two other issues I wish to discuss with the list: > >1. I'm no fan of Windows, but I've grown to use the "start" button on >keyboards quite a lot. Imagine my surprise to see the Thinkpad without the >start button on the keyboard! I'm using Windows 98 now, any ideas how I can >reprogram the left "ctrl" key to become the "start" key? > >2. The modem is horrible. It's not my phone line, because both my desktop >and my Xircom 56k modem using the same phone line can achieve 46000bps >rates. My el expensivo Thinkpad's modem, shame on it, has only been up to >32000 max. Any suggestions on improving it? The v.90 upgrade didn't help. >Or are we all befalled with this same fate? > >Thanks, happy computing! > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 02:16:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA18143 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:16:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18304; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:16:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:15:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18198; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:15:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18185; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp168.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.168]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id BAA23776 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 01:15:10 -0600 (CST) From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: [770ED] It won't boot!!! Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 01:14:35 -0600 Message-ID: <000001be411f$dee20aa0$85edfea9@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000601be4116$66cf4c20$0a76c697@thinkpad> List-Unsubscribe: By "start" button, I presume you mean the Windows key. As the Windows hacks here will tell you, you can get the same effect by pressing CTRL+ESC together. Some keyboards have a menu access key as well, which pops up the "file" menu for the active window. This is accomplished on standard keyboards with ALT+F. Personally, I feel that the lack of those "extra" keys is a plus. They're annoyingly easy to hit by accident, and if you ever switch to an operating system other than Windows, you'll dislike the constant reminder of the life you left behind. Peace -d > -----Original Message----- > From: Donald Mak [mailto:dvmak@ibm.net] > Sent: Saturday, January 16, 1999 12:07 AM > To: Warren Tan Wing Wah; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: [770ED] It won't boot!!! > > > Part of that good service is why you paid the high price.(G) > You had said that the system failed after flasshing the BIOS. A while back > there > were problems with wrong BIOS's and software intended for other systems > being mixed up. The system not booting past the mem count sounds like a > symtom of a bad flash. > In that's the case IBM is getting sloppy in managing the FTP's > and downloads > which could cost them dearly..... > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Warren Tan Wing Wah > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 12:17 AM > Subject: RE: [770ED] It won't boot!!! > > > >Thanks to all who replied! I sent it back to IBM and they repaired it is > >less than 18 hours! The motherboard and processor were replaced. > > > >While I must admit that the service was good, I still can't phantom how a > >machine as ridiculously expensive as this can just fail after a few days. > I > >mean, even my cheap Acers didn't do this to me. Or am I just the unlucky > >one with the one-machine-in-a-million failure rate? > > > >Two other issues I wish to discuss with the list: > > > >1. I'm no fan of Windows, but I've grown to use the "start" button on > >keyboards quite a lot. Imagine my surprise to see the Thinkpad > without the > >start button on the keyboard! I'm using Windows 98 now, any ideas how I > can > >reprogram the left "ctrl" key to become the "start" key? > > > >2. The modem is horrible. It's not my phone line, because both > my desktop > >and my Xircom 56k modem using the same phone line can achieve 46000bps > >rates. My el expensivo Thinkpad's modem, shame on it, has only > been up to > >32000 max. Any suggestions on improving it? The v.90 upgrade > didn't help. > >Or are we all befalled with this same fate? > > > >Thanks, happy computing! > > > > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 02:23:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA18178 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:23:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18694; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:22:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18610; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:22:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18596; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:22:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp168.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.168]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id BAA24052 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 01:22:44 -0600 (CST) From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: [770ED] Suspend/hibernate fixed Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 01:22:09 -0600 Message-ID: <000001be4120$edb25980$85edfea9@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990116040510.DTBZ21233@user> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: My 1720 has a Phoenix BIOS, and all the power management settings can be reached directly by entering setup at boot. I prefer to do this and not have the Windows utility, which I've found to be quirky anyway, cluttering my drive. Also, as Mr. Ramos has pointed out, I forgot that Windows probably won't automatically detect APM upon reboot, if you remove it -- hardware detection wizard is a necessary step. Good luck -d > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken [mailto:kenzo@free-music.com] > Sent: Friday, January 15, 1999 10:00 PM > To: David Talkington; Thinkpad LISTSERV > Subject: RE: [770ED] Suspend/hibernate fixed > > > Are you saying I should've gone to the boot screen and verified that every > device was listed correctly? I'm not sure I understand what else > you might > mean. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 02:31:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA18231 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:31:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19073; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:30:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:29:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18981; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:29:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (lucy.az.com [204.201.18.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18967; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:29:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp38-sally.atlantica.net (ppp38-sally.atlantica.net [206.63.195.102]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA27204 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:29:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <199901160729.XAA27204@www.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Fri, 15 Jan 99 23:36:53 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: want to use a CD-R burner with my TP760EL List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:37:48 EST, AlanCDane@aol.com wrote: >I see mention this Dock 2 for a TP 760 ED...I'm looking for one, and I >understand you can get them pretty cheap, so if anyone has a source for them, >please let me know. >thanks Please don't laugh...but what about us non-700/600/500 series TP users? Any solutions for us? (TP 365XD to be precise) Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 03:43:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA18703 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 03:43:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21655; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 03:43:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 03:42:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21519; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 03:42:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from deimos.nc.com (deimos.nc.com [207.88.167.190]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21498; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 03:42:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from nc.com (pm3a-16.nc.com [172.20.129.16]) by deimos.nc.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA02071; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:36:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36A050DC.26D185D7@nc.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:42:04 -0800 From: "George S. Kong" Organization: Network Computer, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: want to use a CD-R burner with my TP760EL References: <369FC82D.AAF6BBF6@nc.com> <369FF3D4.307B@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: thanks for the info. what's the exact model number of the ricoh unit? even simpler would be a parallel port burner, since it wouldn't require the scsi card. has anyone had any success with any of these? by the way, i'd like to share this CDR burner between my TP760EL and a dell inspiron 7000. George Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > I use a 760ED as my CD burner. Ricoh external SCSI CD-RW hooked into the > SCSI port on a Dock 2 (you can get the Dock 2 REAL cheap now). I tried > this on a 755CE DX-100, and it worked! > I use a Toshiba SCSI 32X CD-ROM in the Dock as a source CD. The > ThinkPad 20X works well for all except audio CD extraction, the 4X is > not really suitable for this. But, you can always use the burner to copy > by sending to the Hard Drive first, then back to the burner. So you > don't always need a source CD drive, although it is faster. > > George S. Kong wrote: > > > > i'm sure this has been discussed here before, but i wasn't > > interested until now :-) > > > > i have TP760EL runnning (i think) original Win 95 (not OSR2). > > i'd like to burn CDs, for backup and data exchange. > > has anyone gone down this path, and found a good, painless, > > inexpensive solution? > > > > thanks. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > George S. Kong, Network Computer Inc, george at nc dot com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 08:18:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA20329 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:18:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00784; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:17:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:16:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00623; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (imo25.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00577; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:15:25 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from JES770@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 2CXLa15290 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:14:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6324bace.36a090c4@aol.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:14:44 EST To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Internal Zip Drive Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 1/15/99 10:54:41 PM EST, taj@nauticom.net writes: > ThinkPad 770X > > I have a CNF Zip Drive, but have found it cannot be hot swapped. > > Can the AST Zip Drive for the 770 be hot swapped? From the literature I've > read on it, it appears to be able to be hot swapped. > > the CNF is definitely not hot swappable & says so on the instructions with > it.. Tom, Is it recognized by the 770X UltraBay II Utility? I don't know about the AST ZIP, but the VST ZIP was the only one on the IBM PROVEN List the last time I checked. I believe that's probably the problem. The UltraBay II on my ThinkPad 770 doesn't recognize the new internal IOMEGA ZIP. It's not hot swappable either. The ZIP functionality is OK -- including the right-click Tools options. It's just that the UltraBay Icon indicates that a CD-ROM is installed instead of the ZIP - even though I have the latest BIOS and drivers installed. John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 08:39:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA20439 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:39:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01343; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:39:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:38:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01232; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (203-96-92-1.ipnets.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01219; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:38:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from amlaptop ([202.27.179.138]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990116133738.LNCF682101.mta1-rme@amlaptop> for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:37:38 +1300 Message-ID: <005801be4154$b28261a0$1e6a60cb@amlaptop> From: "Andreas Michaelides" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: want to use a CD-R burner with my TP760EL Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:32:42 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >thanks for the info. > >what's the exact model number of the ricoh unit? > >even simpler would be a parallel port burner, >since it wouldn't require the scsi card. >has anyone had any success with any of these? > >by the way, i'd like to share this CDR burner between >my TP760EL and a dell inspiron 7000. > I've been using a HP-7200 parallel port burner for the last 4 or so months on my 770. It writes at 2x and even writes CD-RW which really is a real bonus for testing out CD layouts, making a file or two change and reburning it without throwing away countless CD (which I used to do). It works real well, but I don't leave it plugged in all the time, because it can be a bit quirky with other software. It's also hot plugable/unplugable, so very easy to move between machines. Also quite cheap, comes with heaps of software, Norton av4, Corel stuff, directCD, CD creator deluxe etc. I'd recommend it if you are not doing heaps of CDs. I think the new model (already, arrgghh, computers!!) is 4x write, 8000 series. Email me if you want any info. Later, Andreas!! :-) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 09:58:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA20895 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:58:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02687; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:57:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:56:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02603; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:56:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02590; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:56:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.19.96]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990116145617.RTB12230@770>; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:56:17 +0000 Message-ID: <002201be4160$b6d17a00$60134f0c@770> From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "Andreas Michaelides" , "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: want to use a CD-R burner with my TP760EL Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:58:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Personally, I would stay away from parallel port anything. PCMCIA SCSI is a whole lot faster and more reliable. -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Michaelides To: Thinkpad Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 8:39 AM Subject: Re: want to use a CD-R burner with my TP760EL >>thanks for the info. >> >>what's the exact model number of the ricoh unit? >> >>even simpler would be a parallel port burner, >>since it wouldn't require the scsi card. >>has anyone had any success with any of these? >> >>by the way, i'd like to share this CDR burner between >>my TP760EL and a dell inspiron 7000. >> > > >I've been using a HP-7200 parallel port burner for the last 4 or so months >on my 770. It writes at 2x and even writes CD-RW which really is a real >bonus for testing out CD layouts, making a file or two change and reburning >it without throwing away countless CD (which I used to do). It works real >well, but I don't leave it plugged in all the time, because it can be a bit >quirky with other software. It's also hot plugable/unplugable, so very easy >to move between machines. Also quite cheap, comes with heaps of software, >Norton av4, Corel stuff, directCD, CD creator deluxe etc. I'd recommend it >if you are not doing heaps of CDs. I think the new model (already, arrgghh, >computers!!) is 4x write, 8000 series. > >Email me if you want any info. > >Later, >Andreas!! >:-) > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 11:50:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA02043 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:50:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05070; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:49:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:48:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04913; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:48:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.area54.net (mercury.area54.net [205.177.191.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04899; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:48:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA21357 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:49:18 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:49:18 -0500 (EST) From: Michael To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: New "I"'s out... 300MHZ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: There are 3 new "I" series pads out now, each with 300mhz. Cheapest is 1499.00 with a 800x600 12.1" most expensive is 2999.00 with a 14.1 1024x768 and DVD.. Details at http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/thinkpad/iseries/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 12:27:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA02372 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:27:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06102; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:26:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:26:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05986; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:26:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05973; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:26:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from theriver.com (a8.pm3-32.theriver.com [206.102.192.72]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA29405; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:25:57 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36A0CBCC.D4CACAC9@theriver.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:26:36 -0700 From: James J Mckenzie Reply-To: os2support@theriver.com Organization: None X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: New "I"'s out... 300MHZ... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Are these "Wintel" boxes or is there support for Linux/OS/2 out there? James Michael wrote: > > There are 3 new "I" series pads out now, each with 300mhz. Cheapest is > 1499.00 with a 800x600 12.1" most expensive is 2999.00 with a 14.1 > 1024x768 and DVD.. > > > Details at http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/thinkpad/iseries/index.html > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 12:33:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA02412 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:33:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06489; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:32:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:31:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06361; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:31:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.area54.net (mercury.area54.net [205.177.191.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06327; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:31:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA21454 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:32:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:32:35 -0500 (EST) From: Michael To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: New "I"'s out... 300MHZ... In-Reply-To: <36A0CBCC.D4CACAC9@theriver.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, James J Mckenzie wrote: > Are these "Wintel" boxes or is there support for Linux/OS/2 out there? Well I'll tell you this much.. I run Redhat5.2 on my 1720 "i" with no problems. Have not been able to get the internal modem work under linux however it's no big deal to me since a pcmcia modem works fine. Don't know anything about OS2 however.. > > James > > Michael wrote: > > > > There are 3 new "I" series pads out now, each with 300mhz. Cheapest is > > 1499.00 with a 800x600 12.1" most expensive is 2999.00 with a 14.1 > > 1024x768 and DVD.. > > > > > > Details at http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/thinkpad/iseries/index.html > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 12:58:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA02587 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:58:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07326; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:57:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:56:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07212; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:56:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from sherman.ncag.edu (sherman.ncag.edu [208.198.8.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07199; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:56:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from zapped [208.198.8.100] by sherman.ncag.edu (SMTPD32-4.06) id A445F24011C; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:02:45 PDT From: "Waldemar Kowalski" To: Subject: HDs for TP600 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:56:45 -0800 Message-ID: <000001be4179$948d77a0$6408c6d0@zapped.ncag.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Looking to expand my TP600 (PII/233 model), but would rather not pay ~$1000 for the IBM 6.4g drive. Any feedback on the Toshiba 6.4g EIDE ATA3 2.5SL 12.7mm drive? What about other recommended options? Thanks! waldemar kowalski cio, northwest college From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 13:51:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02909 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:51:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08542; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:50:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:49:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08405; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.area54.net (mercury.area54.net [205.177.191.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08391; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:49:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA21621 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:49:50 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:49:50 -0500 (EST) From: Michael To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Any sources yet for 9mm drives?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I am looking for a source for the 9.5mm 6.4gig IBM Travelstar drive #DBCA-206480. Anyone got a line on them yet?? Thanks in advance.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 16:13:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA03782 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11872; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:10:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11753; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:10:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net [206.141.239.142]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11738; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:10:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from big-man ([199.179.167.177]) by mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990116210952.DLEU2959@big-man> for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:09:52 -0600 Message-ID: <004401be4194$2f0b7d80$b1a7b3c7@big-man> From: "George Neurauter" To: Subject: Re: Hello everyone! Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:05:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01BE4161.A457C040" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01BE4161.A457C040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Original Message----- From: David Goldman To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Hello everyone! >2) In what way is the battery life % inaccurate? Are you aware that > if a fully charged battery is left unused, it will lose a certain > percentage of its charge every day? For example, most Ni-Cad = batteries > will lose about 3% of their charge in 24 hours. So if you hibernate > a laptop on Monday with 63% charge and restart it on Tuesday with > 59-61% charge, everything is just about right. On the other hand, if > you hibernate a laptop on Monday morning with 82% and restart it a > few hours later with 24%, then there may be a problem. Giving = details > to this group will help us to provide accurate answers. > >-- >David Goldman Sorry if I was unclear. When I said "hibernate", I meant that I close = the laptop while turned on and the HD stops, screen goes off, etc. After = I open it back up, the system comes back to the Win98 desktop. What I = noticed is that the battery life % in the Win98 system tray is inflated = after being in "hibernation" for a few hours because the number drops = very fast and usually gives a low power warning. Is this hibernation or just a suspend-to-RAM mode? I think that the = hibernation mode still consumes power, just not as much as standby or = during normal functioning. It lasted at least 6 hours while closed on a = full battery.=20 George Neurauter neurautr@uiuc.edu or gneurauter@ameritech.net ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01BE4161.A457C040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
-----Original Message-----
From: = David Goldman=20 <dgoldman@best.com>
To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu <THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu>
Date: = Friday,=20 January 15, 1999 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: Hello=20 everyone!

>2) In what way is the battery life %=20 inaccurate? Are you aware that
>   if a fully charged = battery is=20 left unused, it will lose a certain
>   percentage of = its charge=20 every day? For example, most Ni-Cad batteries
>   will = lose=20 about 3% of their charge in 24 hours. So if you = hibernate
>   a=20 laptop on Monday with 63% charge and restart it on Tuesday=20 with
>   59-61% charge, everything is just about right. = On the=20 other hand, if
>   you hibernate a laptop on Monday = morning with=20 82% and restart it a
>   few hours later with 24%, then = there=20 may be a problem. Giving details
>   to this group will = help us=20 to provide accurate answers.
>
>--
>David = Goldman
 
Sorry if I was unclear. When I = said=20 "hibernate", I meant that I close the laptop while turned on = and the=20 HD stops, screen goes off, etc. After I open it back up, the system = comes back=20 to the Win98 desktop. What I noticed is that the battery life % in the = Win98=20 system tray is inflated after being in "hibernation" for a few = hours=20 because the number drops very fast and usually gives a low power=20 warning.
 
Is this hibernation or just a suspend-to-RAM mode? I think that the = hibernation mode still consumes power, just not as much as standby or = during=20 normal functioning. It lasted at least 6 hours while closed on a full = battery.=20
 
George Neurauter
neurautr@uiuc.edu or
gneurauter@ameritech.net
------=_NextPart_000_003F_01BE4161.A457C040-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 16:45:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA04000 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:45:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12919; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:43:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12837; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12823; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:43:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from user ([12.79.50.123]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990116214254.JKED19922@user>; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:42:54 +0000 X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Ken's E-mail Client 1998 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:41:03 -0500 To: Thinkpad , "George Neurauter" From: Ken Subject: Hibernate/suspend/standby In-Reply-To: <004401be4194$2f0b7d80$b1a7b3c7@big-man> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <19990116214254.JKED19922@user> List-Unsubscribe: > > Sorry if I was unclear. When I said "hibernate", I meant that I close the > laptop while turned on and the HD stops, screen goes off, etc. After I open > it back up, the system comes back to the Win98 desktop. What I noticed is > that the battery life % in the Win98 system tray is Is this hibernation or > just a suspend-to-RAM mode? I think that the hibernation mode still consumes > power, just not as much as standby or during normal functioning. It lasted at > least 6 hours while closed on a full battery. In Win95, the terminology was: Standby: Turn screen and hard drive off. Uses less power than full mode. Suspend: Turn computer off, but leave a trickle of power to keep RAM intact. Uses a little bit of power. Depending on computer, can last on full battery for a day or even more (days? The list has corrected me on this estimate before). Hibernate: Copy entire contents of RAM to hard drive, and turn computer completely off. Uses no power at all. In Win98, I think Suspend is now called Standby. I don't know what the other names changed to. On my 770ED, with Win95, closing the lid just goes to Standby (i.e. just turns off screen and hard drive). I can set an option in the Power control panel to make closing the lid go to Suspend (i.e. turn machine off but use some power to keep RAM intact). I have not heard of a machine that goes to Hibernate when the lid is closed. Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 17:36:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA04410 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:36:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14302; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:35:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:34:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14211; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:34:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from chele.cais.net (rj@chele.cais.com [199.0.216.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14198; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:34:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rj@localhost) by chele.cais.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA15242 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:33:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:33:05 -0500 (EST) From: rj To: ThinkPad List Subject: TP 600E Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I've been looking into getting a TP600 and have noticed that the 600 E has APG. Any one willing to tell me what APG is. TIA From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 17:52:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA04537 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:52:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14844; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:52:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:51:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14746; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:51:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14721; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:51:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from theriver.com (a28.pm3-33.theriver.com [206.30.150.92]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10010; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:51:05 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36A117FD.48C09729@theriver.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:51:41 -0700 From: James J Mckenzie Reply-To: os2support@theriver.com Organization: None X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rj CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP 600E References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: rj wrote: > > I've been looking into getting a TP600 and have noticed > that the 600 E has APG. Any one willing to tell me what APG is. > > TIA Sounds like you are talking about Advanced Graphics Port, or AGP. This is a proprietary connection between the main computer buss and the video subsystem. With the appropriate drivers, you can experience better video performance. Such drivers exist under Microsoft Windows95/98. Otherwise, there is no advantage over using an equivelent video subsystem connected to the Peripherial Connect Interface (PCI) or VL-Bus 32 bit bus connections. James From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 18:49:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA04922 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:49:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16105; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:47:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15979; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:47:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from centurion.flash.net (centurion.flash.net [209.30.0.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15966; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:47:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ycxfssto (p75.amax7.dialup.det1.flash.net [208.194.216.75]) by centurion.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA22870 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:47:41 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990116184238.00940100@pop.flash.net> X-Sender: ljmason9@pop.flash.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:48:42 -0500 To: Mik Tip From: Laura Mason Subject: RE: sticky keys? In-Reply-To: <000901be4105$067dc420$9381fea9@tigger> References: <4.1.19990115170303.0094b3f0@pop.flash.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Not warm at all - about 17 degrees for a high and no I haven't spilled anything on this one yet.. I thought I may have hit a bad key combination - Just happy to be working again Laura At 10:02 PM 1/15/99 -0600, you wrote: >My first suspect is moisture. Assuming you didn't spill anything in it, was >it excessively warm and/or humid the day it happened? If so, and a reboot >cured it, shrug and move on. > >I used to have an XT clone that could almost tell me the barometric pressure >by the number of garbled characters per line of text. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Laura Mason [mailto:ljmason9@flash.net] >> Subject: sticky keys? >> >> >> On my Thinkpad 600 just had the weird experience of the keyboard >> characters getting scrambled. >> hitting backspace would give \, etc. >> also my mail program lost its preview function. >> I thought it was modem related but when I tried my word processor >> and I got >> the same result. >> >> A Cold boot solved the problems - but does anyone want to guess >> what caused >> them. >> >> I only have 32 mg of memory - had this laptop since Sept. without any >> problem before. >> >> >> Laura >> >> > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 20:35:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA05825 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:35:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19629; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:33:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:32:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19519; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:32:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19491; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:32:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic79.fbtc.net [204.2.11.79]) by roadrunner (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA01417; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:30:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00f601be41b8$a0ee1ce0$4f0b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "George S. Kong" , Subject: Re: want to use a CD-R burner with my TP760EL Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:28:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I bought a Ricoh cd-rw that uses the parallel port. That way I can backup all my laptops and my desktop to cd. It works great. I use the write once disks. Theyre cheap and they work just fine. It's a little slow but I don't mind that. I let it run when I don't need the machine. Barry -----Original Message----- From: George S. Kong To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 4:58 PM Subject: want to use a CD-R burner with my TP760EL >i'm sure this has been discussed here before, but i wasn't >interested until now :-) > >i have TP760EL runnning (i think) original Win 95 (not OSR2). >i'd like to burn CDs, for backup and data exchange. >has anyone gone down this path, and found a good, painless, >inexpensive solution? > >thanks. > > --------------------------------------------------------- >George S. Kong, Network Computer Inc, george at nc dot com > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 20:57:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA05994 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20327; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:57:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:56:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20234; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:56:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20208; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:55:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic79.fbtc.net [204.2.11.79]) by roadrunner (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA04360; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:53:56 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <012301be41bb$eb371ce0$4f0b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "Warren Tan Wing Wah" , Subject: Modem problems Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:51:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: -----Original Message----- From: Warren Tan Wing Wah To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 11:17 PM Subject: RE: [770ED] It won't boot!!! >2. The modem is horrible. It's not my phone line, because both my desktop >and my Xircom 56k modem using the same phone line can achieve 46000bps >rates. My el expensivo Thinkpad's modem, shame on it, has only been up to >32000 max. Any suggestions on improving it? The v.90 upgrade didn't help. >Or are we all befalled with this same fate? Chances are that since you're getting 46,000 bps normally instead of 50,000, that your line is less than perfect. At my former address I had the same problem. I brought a lot of modems and computers home from work and I found that a lot of them just didn't work well on my home line, although they worked fine at work. The price of the modem didn't seem to be a factor. I think some handle marginal lines better than others. Barry From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 21:03:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06037 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:03:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20720; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:03:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:02:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20604; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:02:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20576; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:02:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic79.fbtc.net [204.2.11.79]) by roadrunner (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA05122; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:00:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <013201be41bc$d563d7e0$4f0b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "LightSide" , Subject: Re: want to use a CD-R burner with my TP760EL Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:58:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I also have a 365XD and I've noticed docking stations for them a number of times on closeout tables at various computer stores. I'm sure I've seen them at 4 or 5 stores in the past 6 months. I'd look around. If I remember right they were a little over $100. Barry -----Original Message----- From: LightSide To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 1:36 AM Subject: Re: want to use a CD-R burner with my TP760EL >On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:37:48 EST, AlanCDane@aol.com wrote: > >>I see mention this Dock 2 for a TP 760 ED...I'm looking for one, and I >>understand you can get them pretty cheap, so if anyone has a source for them, >>please let me know. >>thanks > >Please don't laugh...but what about us non-700/600/500 series TP users? Any solutions for us? (TP 365XD to >be precise) > >Robert > > >Robert Mears >Certified Key and Button Pusher >robertm@az.com >OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 16 21:05:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06060 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:05:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20970; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:05:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:04:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20879; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20863; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:04:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic79.fbtc.net [204.2.11.79]) by roadrunner (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA05501; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:03:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <013501be41bd$3044eb40$4f0b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "George S. Kong" , Cc: Subject: Re: want to use a CD-R burner with my TP760EL Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:00:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I use a Ricoh CD-RW MP6200A on the parallel port of my Thinkpads and desktop. It works just fine and is easy to move from one to another. I also have a Compaq 486/75 that is DOS only and so far I haven't been able to locate software for that. Oh well. Barry -----Original Message----- From: George S. Kong To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 2:42 AM Subject: Re: want to use a CD-R burner with my TP760EL >thanks for the info. > >what's the exact model number of the ricoh unit? > >even simpler would be a parallel port burner, >since it wouldn't require the scsi card. >has anyone had any success with any of these? > >by the way, i'd like to share this CDR burner between >my TP760EL and a dell inspiron 7000. > >George > >Bruce Markowitz wrote: >> >> I use a 760ED as my CD burner. Ricoh external SCSI CD-RW hooked into the >> SCSI port on a Dock 2 (you can get the Dock 2 REAL cheap now). I tried >> this on a 755CE DX-100, and it worked! >> I use a Toshiba SCSI 32X CD-ROM in the Dock as a source CD. The >> ThinkPad 20X works well for all except audio CD extraction, the 4X is >> not really suitable for this. But, you can always use the burner to copy >> by sending to the Hard Drive first, then back to the burner. So you >> don't always need a source CD drive, although it is faster. >> >> George S. Kong wrote: >> > >> > i'm sure this has been discussed here before, but i wasn't >> > interested until now :-) >> > >> > i have TP760EL runnning (i think) original Win 95 (not OSR2). >> > i'd like to burn CDs, for backup and data exchange. >> > has anyone gone down this path, and found a good, painless, >> > inexpensive solution? >> > >> > thanks. >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------- >> > George S. Kong, Network Computer Inc, george at nc dot com > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 17 00:58:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA07906 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:58:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26134; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:58:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:56:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26012; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:56:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from sherman.ncag.edu (sherman.ncag.edu [208.198.8.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25999; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:56:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from zapped [208.198.8.41] by sherman.ncag.edu (SMTPD32-4.06) id ACEF1363011C; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:02:23 PDT From: "Waldemar Kowalski" To: Subject: Hot swap on TP600? Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:56:26 -0800 Message-ID: <000001be41de$1f04b560$2908c6d0@zapped.ncag.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Downloaded the uttpswap.txt/uttpswap.exe files for my TP600. Was a bit unclear on how this works with my TP600 - does this now enable Ultraslimbay hotswapping, or does it just bug-fix warm swapping? Thanks! waldemar kowalski cio, northwest college From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 17 01:55:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA08256 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 01:55:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28208; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 01:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 17 Jan 1999 01:54:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28125; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 01:53:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28111; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 01:53:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-31.gate.net [207.36.212.31]) by wichita.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA14142; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 01:53:46 -0500 Message-ID: <36A188F5.EBBED03F@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 01:53:42 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Any sources yet for 9mm drives?? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Yes, maybe, if still in stock.. Michael wrote: > I am looking for a source for the 9.5mm 6.4gig IBM Travelstar drive > #DBCA-206480. > > Anyone got a line on them yet?? > > Thanks in advance.. -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 17 02:06:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA08516 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:06:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28747; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:05:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:04:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28662; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:04:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28649; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-31.gate.net [207.36.212.31]) by wichita.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA60488; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:04:49 -0500 Message-ID: <36A18B8D.A3E2BC3A@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:04:45 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Tan Wing Wah CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [770ED] It won't boot!!! References: <000301be410f$91bab5c0$01c8c8c8@warren1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Warren.. there is a V.90 upgrade out now.. what happened to your 770ED just might be related to the bios upgrade you did.. unless you follow instructions precisely, it can trash the system board flash memory.. Warren Tan Wing Wah wrote: > Thanks to all who replied! I sent it back to IBM and they repaired it is > less than 18 hours! The motherboard and processor were replaced. > > While I must admit that the service was good, I still can't phantom how a > machine as ridiculously expensive as this can just fail after a few days. I > mean, even my cheap Acers didn't do this to me. Or am I just the unlucky > one with the one-machine-in-a-million failure rate? > > Two other issues I wish to discuss with the list: > > 1. I'm no fan of Windows, but I've grown to use the "start" button on > keyboards quite a lot. Imagine my surprise to see the Thinkpad without the > start button on the keyboard! I'm using Windows 98 now, any ideas how I can > reprogram the left "ctrl" key to become the "start" key? > > 2. The modem is horrible. It's not my phone line, because both my desktop > and my Xircom 56k modem using the same phone line can achieve 46000bps > rates. My el expensivo Thinkpad's modem, shame on it, has only been up to > 32000 max. Any suggestions on improving it? The v.90 upgrade didn't help. > Or are we all befalled with this same fate? > > Thanks, happy computing! -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU(8.1gig, 261meg), 760ED(3.0gig, 104meg), 701C(6.3gig, 40meg), 755CE(no gig, 40meg), 750C(no gig, 4meg), IBM WorkPad(1meg) Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 17 02:12:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA08551 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:12:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29102; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:10:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29020; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:10:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28988; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:10:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-31.gate.net [207.36.212.31]) by wichita.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA38510; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:10:51 -0500 Message-ID: <36A18CF7.6F9D90DC@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:10:47 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Laura Mason CC: Mik Tip Subject: Re: sticky keys? References: <4.1.19990115170303.0094b3f0@pop.flash.net> <4.1.19990116184238.00940100@pop.flash.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Laura.. that symptom is usually a system crash.. i have experienced this on many computers.. if it were moisture on the keyboard, i would be extremely surprised because the membrane would corrode quickly.. also, if the 560 keyboard is any indicator, which even a grand latte spill did not damage, the 600 keyboard is probably pretty well sealed.. Laura Mason wrote: > Not warm at all - about 17 degrees for a high and no I haven't spilled > anything on this one yet.. > > I thought I may have hit a bad key combination - Just happy to be working again > Laura > > At 10:02 PM 1/15/99 -0600, you wrote: > >My first suspect is moisture. Assuming you didn't spill anything in it, was > >it excessively warm and/or humid the day it happened? If so, and a reboot > >cured it, shrug and move on. > > > >I used to have an XT clone that could almost tell me the barometric pressure > >by the number of garbled characters per line of text. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Laura Mason [mailto:ljmason9@flash.net] > >> Subject: sticky keys? > >> > >> > >> On my Thinkpad 600 just had the weird experience of the keyboard > >> characters getting scrambled. > >> hitting backspace would give \, etc. > >> also my mail program lost its preview function. > >> I thought it was modem related but when I tried my word processor > >> and I got > >> the same result. > >> > >> A Cold boot solved the problems - but does anyone want to guess > >> what caused > >> them. > >> > >> I only have 32 mg of memory - had this laptop since Sept. without any > >> problem before. > >> > >> > >> Laura > >> > >> > > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 17 02:29:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA08663 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:29:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29703; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:28:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:28:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29621; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:27:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29607; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:27:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-31.gate.net [207.36.212.31]) by wichita.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA24522; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:27:54 -0500 Message-ID: <36A190F6.C10F181F@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:27:50 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Edson CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Help: How do you clear the Run "most recently used" selection list on the Start menu AND Q on the modem References: <00ce01be3f80$ac6f6d60$595a1ace@thinkpad-770ed> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: David.. 1. go to the start/run and select the C:? drive.. :-) 1.a. there is probably a setting in the system registry or the like that saves the last entry.. you can go v=clear that if you can find it, but i think its easier to just select something that is always there.. :-) 2. try the new V.90 ACP modem updarte file on the IBM FTP site.. David Edson wrote: > 1.0 I have an annoying problem on my 770ED: I updated many of the modem > files using the external floppy, and now when I pass the cursor past the > 'RUN' selection on the 'Start' menu it hangs at the 'Run' location until a > certain time out occurs if I do not have the 3 1/2 floppy connected. It > should be simple to correct, but I haven't found a way to do it. It did not > do this when I first ran the TP. I assume the problem is caused by the > existence of files with "a:" prefixes. > > 2.0 I am also curious as to others success with the internal modem. It > has been a real pain, from not working at all (the initial set up), to > handshaking problems (doesn't connect), to dropping out. I have used two > other laptops with the same ISP and had no problems logging in and running. > I have put in all of the modem updates, the patch, and the v90 driver. > Most annoying for such a quality machine - I have been very disappointed in > how much time it has taken me to get on line, and shaky at that. It does > connect on my line at work at 4400 bps, and 3200 at home. > > Thanks for any help! > > David -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 17 02:32:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA08696 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:32:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29943; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:31:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:30:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29859; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29846; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:30:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-31.gate.net [207.36.212.31]) by wichita.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA32198; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:30:44 -0500 Message-ID: <36A191A0.EEE1F1DA@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:30:40 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Bell CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Memory upgrade 760 - 770 References: <199901111910.TAA129226@out5.ibm.net> <369D8A2B.9843D056@icanect.net> <369E0029.CAD3AE67@csc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Rob.. early on, IBM warned not to run with EDO and SDRAM.. also, it slows things down when you do.. i don't think anything goes "BOOM" if you do.. Rob Bell wrote: > Bill, > > What potential problems are you referring to? I ran with EDO memory for > a few months last spring on the 770 without problems. I haven't used > that configuration since I upgraded to 128MB last summer, but I don't > remember any issues. > > Thanks, > Rob > > Bill Morrow wrote: > > > > Seigfried.. > > i have personally not ever used 760E series memory in a 770, but it was > > reported that it would work.. so YES, but you don't want to.. > > the EDO memory does not work well with the SDRAM memory on the system > > board.. > > -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 17 03:58:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA09348 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 03:58:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02549; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 03:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 17 Jan 1999 03:56:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02448; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 03:56:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from bessie.eunet.fi (bessie.eunet.fi [192.26.119.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02435; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 03:56:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from kettu (joakim.pp.fi [193.66.77.210]) by bessie.eunet.fi (8.8.7/8.8.3) with SMTP id KAA16292 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 10:56:36 +0200 (EET) From: "Jukka Ketelaars" To: Subject: RE: want to use a CD-R burner with my TP760EL Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 10:59:29 +0200 Message-ID: <000101be41f7$b12fa5d0$d24d42c1@kettu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 List-Unsubscribe: > >even simpler would be a parallel port burner, > >since it wouldn't require the scsi card. > >has anyone had any success with any of these? > > > I've been using a HP-7200 parallel port burner for the last 4 or so months > on my 770. It writes at 2x and even writes CD-RW which really is a real > bonus for testing out CD layouts, making a file or two change and > reburning I've been using it with a 600 under NT. It works ok, but not very fast. Under NT it's not hot pluggable, and when it's not plugged in, the driver makes the mouse cursor stick every few seconds. To get rid of that I created a seperate hardware profile without the driver. This is no problem as I only use it about once a week. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 17 10:28:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA11436 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 10:28:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12525; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 10:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 17 Jan 1999 10:25:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12437; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 10:25:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12424; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 10:25:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.19.243]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990117152503.EKCE6671@770>; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:25:03 +0000 Message-ID: <003401be422d$e65a6d40$f3134f0c@770> From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "Bill Morrow" , "Rob Bell" Cc: Subject: Re: Memory upgrade 760 - 770 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 10:27:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: There are two tyoes of SDRAM SODIMMS! I took a 64MB SODIMM SDRAM from my Sony and put it into the 770ED. Had a lot of probolems. Seems the Sony takes 4x16 SDRAM in the 64 MB variety, the IBM takes 8X8 SDRAM! In 32 MB, they both take 4X16. Go figure. It really did create problems, whichmay not manifest themselves for a few days. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow To: Rob Bell Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sunday, January 17, 1999 2:31 AM Subject: Re: Memory upgrade 760 - 770 >Rob.. >early on, IBM warned not to run with EDO and SDRAM.. >also, it slows things down when you do.. > >i don't think anything goes "BOOM" if you do.. > >Rob Bell wrote: > >> Bill, >> >> What potential problems are you referring to? I ran with EDO memory for >> a few months last spring on the 770 without problems. I haven't used >> that configuration since I upgraded to 128MB last summer, but I don't >> remember any issues. >> >> Thanks, >> Rob >> >> Bill Morrow wrote: >> > >> > Seigfried.. >> > i have personally not ever used 760E series memory in a 770, but it was >> > reported that it would work.. so YES, but you don't want to.. >> > the EDO memory does not work well with the SDRAM memory on the system >> > board.. >> > > > > >-- >Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) >WEB page http://thinkpads.com >Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html >bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net >770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... > >Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, >Done on a >closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 17 12:44:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA12374 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:44:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15022; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:44:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:42:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14914; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:42:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate1.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14900; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:42:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from paddy (mg131-013.ricochet.net [204.179.131.13]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA05450; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 11:42:09 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Waldemar Kowalski" , Subject: RE: HDs for TP600 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:42:09 -0800 Message-ID: <001801be4240$b4df5d30$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <000001be4179$948d77a0$6408c6d0@zapped.ncag.edu> List-Unsubscribe: > Looking to expand my TP600 (PII/233 model), but would rather not > pay ~$1000 > for the IBM 6.4g drive. Any feedback on the Toshiba 6.4g EIDE ATA3 2.5SL > 12.7mm drive? What about other recommended options? My goodness, you don't have to pay that much! That same IBM 6.4Gb drive sells for around $350 at many reputable vendors. The *only* difference is it doesn't come with the TP600 mounting clip, and the warranty may be shorter. But at one-third the price, who cares about warranty? If the drive died, you could buy another brand new one and still be dollars ahead. Regarding the TP600 mounting clip, you can reuse the one you already have (an easy job with a small Phillips), or better yet, get a new one for $20 >from Bill Morrow at www.thinkpads.com. Then you can get the TP600 2nd HDD Adpater and use both drives at once--very handy for extra storage, and also for transferring your system to the new drive using Drive Copy or Disk Image >from PowerQuest. Bill also sells the drives--check with him for pricing--and he's likely to have the 2nd HDD Adpater. Or you can search shopper.com for "ultraslimbay hdd adapter" and for "travelstar 6GT". -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 17 21:45:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA18611 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:45:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09756; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:44:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:42:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09659; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:42:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.wsl.com.my ([202.190.130.226]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09646; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:41:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from Administrator (j50.sgw31.jaring.my[161.142.28.244])by NS1(MailMax 2.040) with ESMTP id 0 for warren@warrentan.com; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:44:25 +0800 From: "Warren Tan Wing Wah" To: Subject: [770ED] What's the extra rubber strip for? Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:42:36 +0800 Message-ID: <000001be428c$35401780$0100a8c0@Administrator.jaring.my> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I got a little rubber strip with my new 770ED - I can't figure out what it's for! Any ideas? :) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 17 22:24:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA19028 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:24:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10948; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:23:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:22:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10799; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:22:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.wsl.com.my ([202.190.130.226]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10786; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:21:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from Administrator (j50.sgw31.jaring.my[161.142.28.244])by NS1(MailMax 2.040) with ESMTP id 0 for warren@warrentan.com; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:24:21 +0800 From: "Warren Tan Wing Wah" To: "Donald Mak" Cc: Subject: RE: [770ED] What's the extra rubber strip for? Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:22:32 +0800 Message-ID: <000201be4291$c9283860$0100a8c0@Administrator.jaring.my> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <000401be428e$1ec3f2e0$2d76c697@thinkpad> List-Unsubscribe: Thanks! I tried searching all round my thinkpad, but it never occured that i should fit it at my fdd! :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Donald Mak [mailto:dvmak@ibm.net] > Sent: Monday, January 18, 1999 10:56 AM > To: Warren Tan Wing Wah > Subject: Re: [770ED] What's the extra rubber strip for? > > > When you have the floppy hooked externally the "rubber strip" > fits over the > rear connector and acts as a protective sleeve. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Warren Tan Wing Wah > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Date: Sunday, January 17, 1999 9:50 PM > Subject: [770ED] What's the extra rubber strip for? > > > >I got a little rubber strip with my new 770ED - I can't figure out what > it's > >for! > > > >Any ideas? :) > > > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 17 23:26:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA19656 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:26:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12567; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:25:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:22:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12462; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:22:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pgh.nauticom.net (pgh.nauticom.net [198.190.226.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12449; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer (14.tcg1.tcg.dialup.nauticom.net [209.195.138.14]) by pgh.nauticom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA16796 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:22:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000301be4299$b2d6be80$7eb1fea9@oemcomputer> From: "Thomas A. Jones" To: Subject: Please remove Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:19:07 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: remove me from newsgroup..thanks.. T Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 00:17:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA20146 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:17:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14091; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:16:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:15:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13955; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:15:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13933; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:15:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgoldman.vip.best.com (dgoldman.vip.best.com [204.156.137.147]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id VAA09991 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:15:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990117211159.0092e490@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:15:05 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: [TP380z] How long should it stay in suspend mode? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I've got a Thinkpad 380Z (P-II 300, 96MB) that I use from time to time and I'm wondering just how long I can leave it plugged into the AC and in "suspend" mode (screen closed but machine is ON) before any ill effects might occur. At least with suspend mode, it comes back to live with 1-2 seconds after I open the lid and I've noticed no ill effects to this point. I'm just wondering how long is SAFE. Thanks in advance. -- David Goldman From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 01:49:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA21464 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:49:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15898; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:47:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15800; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:47:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15787; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:47:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic65.fbtc.net [204.2.11.65]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id AAA29306; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:46:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <009e01be42ad$e7acf5c0$410b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "George Neurauter" , Subject: Hibernation Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:43:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0099_01BE427B.9BB39200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01BE427B.9BB39200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----Original Message----- From: George Neurauter To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 3:05 PM Subject: Re: Hello everyone! =20 =20 Sorry if I was unclear. When I said "hibernate", I meant that I = close the laptop while turned on and the HD stops, screen goes off, etc. = After I open it back up, the system comes back to the Win98 desktop. = What I noticed is that the battery life % in the Win98 system tray is = inflated after being in "hibernation" for a few hours because the number = drops very fast and usually gives a low power warning. =20 Is this hibernation or just a suspend-to-RAM mode? I think that the = hibernation mode still consumes power, just not as much as standby or = during normal functioning. It lasted at least 6 hours while closed on a = full battery.=20 =20 I have an older thinkpad (380ED) and with it, hibernation means it's = off. The only power loss is from normal discharge. I think someone = mentioned that Nicads self discharge 3% daily whether they're used or = not. I understand from some other newsgroups that NIMH self discharges = more like 10% daily. After a day of hibernation, I don't really see = much difference. After 2 or 3 days I notice the reduction. =20 I don't suspend it. I have it set so that when I turn off the = switch, it goes into hibernation. Also if the battery gets low it goes = into hybernation. =20 I think suspension is what you're referring to. It does use some = power but I don't remember how much. =20 Barry ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01BE427B.9BB39200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
----Original = Message-----
From:=20 George Neurauter <gneurauter@ameritech.net>=
To:=20 thinkpad@cs.utk.edu = <thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>
Dat= e:=20 Saturday, January 16, 1999 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: Hello=20 everyone!
 
Sorry if I was unclear. = When I said=20 "hibernate", I meant that I close the laptop while turned = on and=20 the HD stops, screen goes off, etc. After I open it back up, the = system=20 comes back to the Win98 desktop. What I noticed is that the battery = life %=20 in the Win98 system tray is inflated after being in = "hibernation"=20 for a few hours because the number drops very fast and usually gives = a low=20 power warning.
 
Is this hibernation or just a suspend-to-RAM mode? I think that = the=20 hibernation mode still consumes power, just not as much as standby = or during=20 normal functioning. It lasted at least 6 hours while closed on a = full=20 battery.
 
I have an older thinkpad (380ED) = and with=20 it, hibernation means it's off.  The only power loss is from = normal=20 discharge.  I think someone mentioned that Nicads self = discharge 3%=20 daily whether they're used or not.  I understand from some = other=20 newsgroups that NIMH self discharges more like 10% daily.  = After a day=20 of hibernation, I don't really see much difference.  After 2 or = 3 days=20 I notice the reduction.
 
I don't suspend it.  I have = it set so=20 that when I turn off the switch, it goes into hibernation.  = Also if the=20 battery gets low it goes into hybernation.
 
I think suspension is what = you're referring=20 to.  It does use some power but I don't remember how = much.
 
Barry
 
------=_NextPart_000_0099_01BE427B.9BB39200-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 10:31:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA24799 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:31:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04595; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:30:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:28:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04473; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:28:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from docws002.shl.com (docws002.shl.com [159.249.56.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04457; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:28:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgymscoc02.shl.com ([159.249.92.3]) by docws002.shl.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA27888; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:50:44 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199901181550.IAA27888@docws002.shl.com> Received: by CGYMSCOC02 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:29:38 -0700 From: "TROTTIER, Tom" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, Michael Subject: RE: Any sources yet for 9mm drives?? Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:28:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Folks, I just bought the 5.4 GB version for $325 from www.smartmem.com Both are available from www.ic-direct.com Ciao, Tom _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FROM:Tom Trottier, MBA Senior Technical Architect Ottawa Global Delivery Centre, SHL Systemhouse an MCI Company *+1 613 236-6604x5539 fax:232-5182 * * ttrottier@shl.com * * http://www.shl.com * * 50 O'Connor St. Suite 501, Ottawa K1P 6L2 Canada * ~Questions answered, answers questioned~ ---------- From: Michael [SMTP:michael@area54.net] Sent: 1999 January 16 - Saturday 13:50 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Any sources yet for 9mm drives?? I am looking for a source for the 9.5mm 6.4gig IBM Travelstar drive #DBCA-206480. Anyone got a line on them yet?? Thanks in advance.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 10:58:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA25044 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:58:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05812; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:56:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:56:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05723; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:56:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out-0.tiac.net (mail-out-0.tiac.net [199.0.65.247]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05710; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:55:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out-2.tiac.net (mail-out-2.tiac.net [199.0.65.13]) by mail-out-0.tiac.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21927 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:55:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ecottrell@Doble.com) Received: from ntmail.doble.com (ntmail.doble.com [204.215.186.11]) by mail-out-2.tiac.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA14922 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 05:58:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ecottrell@Doble.com) Received: by ntmail.doble.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BE42D0.B2973F80@ntmail.doble.com>; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:52:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" , "'Warren Tan Wing Wah'" Subject: RE: [770ED] It won't boot!!! Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:52:51 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: >2. The modem is horrible. It's not my phone line, because both my desktop >and my Xircom 56k modem using the same phone line can achieve 46000bps >rates. My el expensivo Thinkpad's modem, shame on it, has only been up to >32000 max. Any suggestions on improving it? The v.90 upgrade didn't help. >Or are we all befalled with this same fate? Hello, It sounds like you are not connecting using a 56k protocol but using V.34 protocol (33.6k). Sounds like you need to check a few things. Does you ISP support V.90 (or the other 56k protocol [X2 or K56Flex] in the modem)? Some modems need parameters in the init string to enable 56K. There are two sites with information. One is http://www.56k.com and I cannot think of the other URL but it is the "56K = V.Unreliable" Web Page. Both give good information on 56k and the problems you can have with it. I was able to set up the connect string on my modem (Rockwell-based) to give protocol and speed information in the connect string. 73 Eric eac@shore.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 12:27:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA25825 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09036; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:26:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:25:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08953; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:25:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08921; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id LAA24519 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:25:54 -0600 Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:25:54 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Laptop->desktop drive adapter source wanted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I've got an extra 2GB Toshiba laptop drive that I'd like to lend to a friend with a regular PC. The only place I've seen that has them was some place in Computer Shopper, and they had a kit for $22. Can anyone suggest a cheaper alternative? Many thanks, Chris Schumann From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 12:34:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA25865 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:34:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09451; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:32:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:32:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09314; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:32:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09299; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:32:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp136.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.136]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id LAA04308 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:31:57 -0600 (CST) From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: [770ED] It won't boot!!! Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:30:55 -0600 Message-ID: <000601be4308$4d740100$c91bfea9@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: The website you mention is at http://808hi.com/56k/r-rnut-x2-3.htm . In my experience, WinModems (like the one in my 1720, and probably in Warren's TP) are, in fact, awful. Mine works ok if the phone lines are very good, in which case it nearly matches the speeds attainable with my 3Com PC card. At home, however, in an apartment building with old, crappy phone lines, my 3Com card is still able to squeeze out about 37333, while the WinModem refuses to handshake at more than 26k or so. I honestly don't see the advantage, in cost or performance, of including one of these temperamental devices in a machine of the ThinkPad's stature. I'm not sure why IBM went that route for the internal modems on these machines. Anybody know? > -----Original Message----- > From: Cottrell, Eric [mailto:ecottrell@Doble.com] > Sent: Monday, January 18, 1999 9:53 AM > To: 'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'; 'Warren Tan Wing Wah' > Subject: RE: [770ED] It won't boot!!! > > > >2. The modem is horrible. It's not my phone line, because both > my desktop > >and my Xircom 56k modem using the same phone line can achieve 46000bps > >rates. My el expensivo Thinkpad's modem, shame on it, has only > been up to > >32000 max. Any suggestions on improving it? The v.90 upgrade > didn't help. > >Or are we all befalled with this same fate? > > Hello, > > It sounds like you are not connecting using a 56k protocol but using > V.34 > protocol (33.6k). Sounds like you need to check a few things. > > Does you ISP support V.90 (or the other 56k protocol [X2 or K56Flex] in > the > modem)? > > Some modems need parameters in the init string to enable 56K. > > There are two sites with information. One is http://www.56k.com and > I cannot think of the other URL but it is the "56K = V.Unreliable" Web > Page. Both give good information on 56k and the problems you can > have with it. I was able to set up the connect string on my modem > (Rockwell-based) to give protocol and speed information in the connect > string. > > 73 Eric eac@shore.net > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 12:47:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA26018 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:47:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10153; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:46:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:45:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10022; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:45:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10006; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:45:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-118.usc.edu [128.125.223.118]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id JAA05606; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:44:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990118094355.00b6d590@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:44:52 -0800 To: Chris Schumann , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Laptop->desktop drive adapter source wanted In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:25 AM 1/18/99 -0600, you wrote: >I've got an extra 2GB Toshiba laptop drive that I'd like to lend to a >friend with a regular PC. > >The only place I've seen that has them was some place in Computer Shopper, >and they had a kit for $22. > >Can anyone suggest a cheaper alternative? ??? I don't understand this. I got an adapter to "normal" IDE interface and metal rails all for less than $5 at Fry's a couple of years ago. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 12:50:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA26068 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:50:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10384; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:49:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:49:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10289; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:49:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10275; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:48:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from jpd (user-38ldfdl.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.189.181]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA01078 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:48:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990118124801.007c4d30@mindspring.com> X-Sender: jdiebold@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:48:01 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Jean-Pierre Diebold Subject: [TP770ED]: Dial-up Networking does not work after SUSPEND Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hello all, I am trying to find out if other users are having the same problem.... I am using Windows 98 on a 770ED. When I go into SUSPEND mode and then get out then my DIAL-UP NETWORKING does not work anymore. I get the following message: Comic Sans MS Dial-up Networking cannot start. Restart your computer, and then try again. If the problem persists, re-install Dial-Up Networking. This happens all the time. The solution for me is to never suspend my laptop....I just let it sleep. Any suggestions? PS: Tech Support could not help me. Jean-Pierre From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 13:22:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA26394 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11803; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:20:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:20:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11707; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11666; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:19:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from amdk6266 ([205.130.19.125]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 1640900 ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:34:08 -0500 Message-ID: <00e701be430e$d4550f60$7d1382cd@amdk6266> From: "Slip" To: "Chris Schumann" , "TP List" Subject: Re: Laptop->desktop drive adapter source wanted Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:17:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 List-Unsubscribe: >>The only place I've seen that has them was some place in Computer Shopper, >>and they had a kit for $22. >>Can anyone suggest a cheaper alternative? > ??? I don't understand this. I got an adapter to "normal" IDE interface >and metal rails all for less than $5 at Fry's a couple of years ago. Check on onsale.com or other similar auction sites. I got mine from onsale for $7.00 just a couple months ago. All they really consist of is an adapter for the ide interface, and coming off of this is a power adapter. Then there's two rails to mount the laptop drive into a normal 3.5" slot, as Randal Whittle mentioned above. Good luck! -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 13:45:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA26584 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:45:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12835; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:42:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12670; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:42:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12646; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:42:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from theriver.com (a0.pm3-32.theriver.com [206.102.192.64]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA00708; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:42:08 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36A380A5.6E3B0489@theriver.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:42:45 -0700 From: James J Mckenzie Reply-To: os2support@theriver.com Organization: None X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jean-Pierre Diebold CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP770ED]: Dial-up Networking does not work after SUSPEND References: <3.0.5.32.19990118124801.007c4d30@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Which version of the ACP drivers are you using? I suggest obtaining and installing version 2.35a or higher. James Jean-Pierre Diebold wrote: > > Hello all, > > I am trying to find out if other users are having the same problem.... > > I am using Windows 98 on a 770ED. When I go into SUSPEND mode and then get out then my DIAL-UP NETWORKING does not work anymore. I get the following message: > > Dial-up Networking cannot start. Restart your computer, and then try again. If the problem persists, re-install Dial-Up Networking. > > This happens all the time. The solution for me is to never suspend my laptop....I just let it sleep. > > Any suggestions? > > PS: Tech Support could not help me. > > Jean-Pierre From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 14:49:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA27103 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:49:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15485; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:48:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:47:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15387; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:47:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15374; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:47:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from atreyu (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id NAA18062; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:47:15 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990118134405.00826ae0@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:44:05 -0600 To: "David Talkington" From: Ron Heiby Subject: RE: [770ED] It won't boot!!! Cc: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" In-Reply-To: <000601be4308$4d740100$c91bfea9@tigger> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 11:30 AM 1/18/99 -0600, David Talkington wrote: >I honestly don't see the advantage, in cost or performance, of including one >of these temperamental devices in a machine of the ThinkPad's stature. I'm >not sure why IBM went that route for the internal modems on these machines. >Anybody know? I don't "know", but I suspect that it started back with the 755 series, where they wanted to include modem capability and sound capability. Use of the Mwave DSP was a promising design choice, that should have allowed both, while providing the capability to improve features along the way with new software downloads. IMHO, the 755CE implementation botched it. The modem was always tempermental and not always compatible with ISP hardware. On the other hand, the sound capabilities taxed the CPU and required a 1-2 second delay before actual vibration of the speaker started. I fairly quickly disabled the Mwave modem function and installed a Megahertz modem / Ethernet combo card. The last time I re-installed Windows on my 755CE, I didn't even install the Mwave code. On the 770ED, I've still got the Mwave code loaded, but disabled the modem capability, again in favor of a Megahertz combo card. Anyone know whether / how the Mwave code can be completely removed from the 770ED? Is it actully used / needed for anything else other than the modem capability? Sound? Video? Video capture? DVD playback? Anything? Thanks! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers iQA/AwUBNqOO5Gasl5Jijs7SEQJJUQCgtiDdRvFlc34EbLKrND/7i+lnZygAoN6y Qq0m+snVncjz0jJM7hWxDzVh =HpEC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 15:02:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA27187 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:02:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16038; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:01:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:00:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15954; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from falk.c2i.net (pop1.c2i.net [193.216.69.98]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15938; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:00:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mp-217-240-86.daxnet.no (mp-217-240-86.daxnet.no [193.217.240.86]) by falk.c2i.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA05865 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:55:30 +0100 (MET) From: eyvind.spangen@c2i.net (Eyvind Spangen) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Buying 770ED from USA and importing to Norway Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:01:34 GMT Message-ID: <36ac928b.100037376@mail.c2i.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: I want to buy a IBM TP 770ED from the US, but I'm afraid to do it because the computer may be stopped in customs, and then I have to pay 23% VAT. Anyone got a good solution? One is labelling the package as "gift", but I doubt any computer store would to that.. Anyone got any experiences? Be quick, before the 770ED for $2699 is sold out.. :-) ES From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 15:40:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA27549 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:40:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16582; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:12:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:11:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16496; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:11:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from stars.cisco.com (stars.cisco.com [171.71.112.28]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16483; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:11:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (mill.cisco.com [161.44.200.11]) by stars.cisco.com (8.8.4-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA15340; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:10:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:10:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Kenneth D'Ambrosio" To: Eyvind Spangen cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Buying 770ED from USA and importing to Norway In-Reply-To: <36ac928b.100037376@mail.c2i.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I'd be verrrrrrrry careful with anything like that, ESPECIALLY if you travel much. We had one of our UK sales reps (for reasons I no longer remember) buy a Toshiba while stateside. Like a good boy, he paid VAT, this, that, and the other... and several months later, STILL got held up in customs until he could document that he'd paid VAT, all because he had an American keyboard. Might be best to bite the bullet on this one -- and if you do get it from overseas, keep all your tax info with you at all times. Ken D'Ambrosio SysAdmin, Cisco Systems, Inc. On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Eyvind Spangen wrote: > Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:01:34 GMT > From: Eyvind Spangen > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Buying 770ED from USA and importing to Norway > > I want to buy a IBM TP 770ED from the US, but I'm afraid to do it > because the computer may be stopped in customs, and then I have to pay > 23% VAT. Anyone got a good solution? One is labelling the package as > "gift", but I doubt any computer store would to that.. Anyone got any > experiences? Be quick, before the 770ED for $2699 is sold out.. :-) > > ES > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 15:47:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA27614 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:47:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17959; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:46:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:45:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17864; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:45:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17850; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:45:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad (client-118-213.bellatlantic.net [151.198.118.213]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA129524; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:45:16 GMT Message-ID: <001701be4323$75d8a040$d576c697@thinkpad> From: "Donald Mak" To: , "Jean-Pierre Diebold" Subject: Re: [TP770ED]: Dial-up Networking does not work after SUSPEND Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:45:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE42F9.88A72D60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE42F9.88A72D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds like you haven't upgraded the modem drivers to the latest build. = Under Win98 you should have 1.36 Build 36. Also be sure to install the = upgraded unimodem drivers. You can find these in the Win98 Supplement = disk at the thinkpad driver site. -----Original Message----- From: Jean-Pierre Diebold To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 12:49 PM Subject: [TP770ED]: Dial-up Networking does not work after SUSPEND =20 =20 Hello all, =20 I am trying to find out if other users are having the same = problem.... =20 I am using Windows 98 on a 770ED. When I go into SUSPEND mode and = then get out then my DIAL-UP NETWORKING does not work anymore. I get the = following message: =20 Dial-up Networking cannot start. Restart your computer, and then try = again. If the problem persists, re-install Dial-Up Networking. =20 This happens all the time. The solution for me is to never suspend = my laptop....I just let it sleep. =20 Any suggestions? =20 PS: Tech Support could not help me. =20 Jean-Pierre=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE42F9.88A72D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sounds like you haven't upgraded the modem drivers = to the=20 latest build. Under Win98 you should have 1.36 Build 36. Also be sure to = install=20 the upgraded unimodem drivers. You can find these in the Win98 = Supplement disk=20 at the thinkpad driver site.
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Jean-Pierre Diebold <jdiebold@mindspring.com>To:=20 THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu = <THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu>
Dat= e:=20 Monday, January 18, 1999 12:49 PM
Subject: [TP770ED]: = Dial-up=20 Networking does not work after SUSPEND

Hello=20 all,

I am trying to find out if other users are having the = same=20 problem....

I am using Windows 98 on a 770ED. When I go into = SUSPEND=20 mode and then get out then my DIAL-UP NETWORKING does not work = anymore. I=20 get the following=20 message:

Dial-up=20 Networking cannot start. Restart your computer, and then try again. = If the=20 problem persists, re-install Dial-Up=20 Networking.

This happens all the = time. The=20 solution for me is to never suspend my laptop....I just let it=20 sleep.

Any suggestions?

PS: Tech Support could not = help=20 me.

Jean-Pierre ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE42F9.88A72D60-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 16:21:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA27932 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:21:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19926; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:20:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:19:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19796; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:19:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from f04n01.cac.psu.edu (f04s01.cac.psu.edu [128.118.141.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19774; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:19:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from 89171.hbg.psu.edu (89171.hbg.psu.edu [146.186.89.171]) by f04n01.cac.psu.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA116246 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:19:14 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990118162106.00944b70@mail.psu.edu> X-Sender: rfm@mail.psu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:29:51 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Robert F. Munzenrider" Subject: Configuring an External ZIP to a 701? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I've been singularly unsuccessful getting an external Zip drive to configure with a TP701. What I'm doing: 1. I connect the Zip drive to the unit via the parallel port on the MultiPortII expansion unit (NOTE: I have a printer attached thru the pass-thru parallel port on the Zip Drive, and it works OK); 2. The floppy with the setup file runs OK; it's last instruction is to remove the floppy, insert the ZIP tools Zip disk in the Zip drive & reboot; 3. After re-booting, the Zip drive never comes up -- apparently it doesn't receive the instruction from the 701 to open a file. Nor does the "My Computer" group show an external drive attached. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks Bob Munzenrider Penn State Harrisburg From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 17:12:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA28320 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:12:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22354; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:11:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:10:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22234; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:10:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from send103.yahoomail.com (send103.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.92]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22170; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:09:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990118221208.22480.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> Received: from [203.12.178.133] by send103.yahoomail.com; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:12:08 PST Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:12:08 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Scott Reply-To: cnscott@zip.com.au Subject: suggestion for list composer To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: would it be possible to make the subject summaries into anchors for easy message navigation. just a thought. c. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 17:26:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA28465 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:26:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23063; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:25:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:23:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22859; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:23:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (mail.islandnet.com [199.175.106.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22816; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:23:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from 139-142-112-183.islandnet.com [139.142.112.183] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m102N4y-000KtuC for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:23:28 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) Newsgroups: list.thinkpad To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Buying 770ED from USA and importing to Norway Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:11:19 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: Lines: 21 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: In article , "Kenneth D'Ambrosio" wrote: :I'd be verrrrrrrry careful with anything like that, ESPECIALLY if you :travel much. We had one of our UK sales reps (for reasons I no longer :remember) buy a Toshiba while stateside. Like a good boy, he paid VAT, :this, that, and the other... and several months later, STILL got held up :in customs until he could document that he'd paid VAT, all because he had :an American keyboard. For Canadians: when you pay the tax and duty, you can get the customs officer to fill out a green card listing the serial numbers ... a lot easier to always carry with you than receipts, which accountants might want elsewhere anyway. -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 17:26:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA28470 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:26:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23061; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:25:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:23:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22836; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:23:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (mail.islandnet.com [199.175.106.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22807; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:23:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from 139-142-112-183.islandnet.com [139.142.112.183] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m102N4z-000KtwC for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:23:29 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) Newsgroups: list.thinkpad To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Configuring an External ZIP to a 701? Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:15:43 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <4.1.19990118162106.00944b70@mail.psu.edu> Lines: 38 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: The only way I got an Iomega ZIP drive working on my 701 was to "Restart the computer in MS-DOS mode" and then run Guest.exe. I had guest.ini and aspipp3a.sys in the same directory. I think those are all the files you need! The Iomega ZIP drivers are the most bloated and flakey device drivers I've ever run across. In article <4.1.19990118162106.00944b70@mail.psu.edu>, "Robert F. Munzenrider" wrote: :I've been singularly unsuccessful getting an external Zip drive to :configure with a TP701. What I'm doing: :1. I connect the Zip drive to the unit via the parallel port on the :MultiPortII expansion unit (NOTE: I have a printer attached thru the :pass-thru parallel port on the Zip Drive, and it works OK); :2. The floppy with the setup file runs OK; it's last instruction is to :remove the floppy, insert the ZIP tools Zip disk in the Zip drive & reboot; :3. After re-booting, the Zip drive never comes up -- apparently it doesn't :receive the instruction from the 701 to open a file. Nor does the "My :Computer" group show an external drive attached. : :Anybody have any ideas? : :Thanks : :Bob Munzenrider :Penn State Harrisburg : : : -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 18:47:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA29311 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:47:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26029; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:46:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:45:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25897; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:45:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.advi.net (root@mail.advi.net [208.139.144.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25884; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:45:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from ecamin (s160.advi.net [208.139.149.160]) by mail.advi.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA26009; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:40:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002001be433c$8b98d3a0$a0958bd0@ecamin> From: "Edwin A Camin" To: , "Robert F. Munzenrider" Subject: Re: Configuring an External ZIP to a 701? Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:42:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 List-Unsubscribe: I had the same problem with my TP701. (Now sold). It would only work when connected to the floppy port using the adapter cord. It would not work on the rear expansion unit. Ed Camin -----Original Message----- From: Robert F. Munzenrider To: Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 4:18 PM Subject: Configuring an External ZIP to a 701? >I've been singularly unsuccessful getting an external Zip drive to >configure with a TP701. What I'm doing: >1. I connect the Zip drive to the unit via the parallel port on the >MultiPortII expansion unit (NOTE: I have a printer attached thru the >pass-thru parallel port on the Zip Drive, and it works OK); >2. The floppy with the setup file runs OK; it's last instruction is to >remove the floppy, insert the ZIP tools Zip disk in the Zip drive & reboot; >3. After re-booting, the Zip drive never comes up -- apparently it doesn't >receive the instruction from the 701 to open a file. Nor does the "My >Computer" group show an external drive attached. > >Anybody have any ideas? > >Thanks > >Bob Munzenrider >Penn State Harrisburg > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 18 21:39:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA01429 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:39:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00801; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:38:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:37:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00691; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:37:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00676; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:37:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-133.usc.edu [128.125.224.133]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id SAA13805; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:37:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990118183524.00c247a0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:37:01 -0800 To: Mel Del Gallo , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Laptop->desktop drive adapter source wanted In-Reply-To: <36A3E1B1.EDF814E3@jps.net> References: <4.1.19990118094355.00b6d590@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 05:36 PM 1/18/99 -0800, you wrote: >Excuse me for butting in but do I understand that you can get an adapter >that will >run your Thinkpad HD on a desktop? How is the HD powered? The adapter that converts the tiny-sized IDE interface into a desktop-sized IDE also breaks off the power pins into a standard power plug. Its not rocket science--its just a converter. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 19 00:47:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA03317 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:47:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05738; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:44:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05522; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:44:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.mindspring.com (smtp1.mindspring.com [207.69.200.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05509; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:44:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldgsm.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.195.150]) by smtp1.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA21906 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:44:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901190544.AAA21906@smtp1.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Mon, 18 Jan 99 21:44:29 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 560 battery problem List-Unsubscribe: One of the guys at work in the furniture section has a ThinkPad 560, and whenever he takes off the AC power, the machine dies. I think it's the battery, because he says the light doesn't turn on (for charging), and he's also tried taking the battery in and out of the machine. Unfortunately, Corporate serves him, so they want to send him a new machine (where he needs a Zip drive to first back up his data). Has anyone had this problem? Is it probably the battery? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 19 00:47:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA03322 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:47:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05740; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:45:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05601; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:45:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.mindspring.com (smtp1.mindspring.com [207.69.200.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05588; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:45:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldgsm.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.195.150]) by smtp1.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA23288; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:45:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901190545.AAA23288@smtp1.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Thomas A. Jones" Date: Mon, 18 Jan 99 21:45:27 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Please remove List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:19:07 -0500, Thomas A. Jones wrote: >List-Unsubscribe: > >remove me from newsgroup..thanks.. > >T Jones > > Maybe you should turn your headers on in Outlook, so you'll see the message like above on unsubscribing. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 19 00:49:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA03346 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:49:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06166; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:48:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:48:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06047; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:48:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06034; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:47:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from atreyu (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id XAA26875 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:47:53 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990118145442.008dd520@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:54:42 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Ron Heiby Subject: RE: [770ED] It won't boot!!! In-Reply-To: <000001be431d$bed204e0$d3c2fea9@tigger> References: <3.0.5.32.19990118134405.00826ae0@popmail.mcs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 02:04 PM 1/18/99 -0600, you wrote: >Please explain? I don't see the connection between sound configuration and >the modem. You're saying they chose that configuration to avoid resource >conflicts? No, I meant to say that they chose that configuration so they could provide *both* capabilities with a single set of hardware. >For my part, the next time I do any major configuring around here, I'm gonna >pull the WinModem from the cabinet. Are we still talking about the 770ED? Where / How is the access to the modem? >I'm very happy with my 3Com PC card modem ... the only reason I ever used >... My purchase of a 3Com >NIC with X-Jack (thoughtfully offset to the rear of the unit, while the >modem's is offset toward the front) will allow me to connect both at once. One of the big reasons I went with a combo card (even though the Ethernet is dongle, rather than X-Jack) is because the combo card uses a *single* IRQ for both capabilities, and I find that pretty much all modern Windows systems are really IRQ constrained. In fact, my desktop system has an unusable serial port on it right now (that I could *really* make good use of), just because I am out of free IRQs. The other reason, of course, is that I still have a slot available. Naturally, to use it, I'll probably have to give up IR or something to get an IRQ for it. :-( -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers iQA/AwUBNqOfgmasl5Jijs7SEQKk2wCgjeb/V1qNNNyBeXZumajQElBENbwAoN6S fcJT3L8BiPnM0rmmHwY3rOW8 =C0Nv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 19 02:42:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA04329 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 02:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08861; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 02:41:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 19 Jan 1999 02:40:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08748; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 02:40:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.1.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08734; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 02:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.2.12]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12686 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:40:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 19 Jan 99 08:40:34 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.44); 19 Jan 99 08:40:29 +0200 Received: from mail.stelarcom.de (132.187.248.72) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 19 Jan 99 08:40:20 +0200 Received: from babylon5.stelarcom.de (babylon5.stelarcom.de [192.168.0.2] ) by mail.stelarcom.de (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:42:38 -0100 Message-Id: <199901190842.3833064.7@mail.stelarcom.de> From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:42:36 +0100 (MEZ) Reply-To: "Alexander Wagner" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Hibernation/Suspend on 385ED List-Unsubscribe: Hello! Simple problem: my 385ED doesn't allways suspend/hibernate. It simply beeps that's all. That happens on closing the display, pressing FN-F4 and also using Fuel-object (there I get an error message: "Can not enter suspend/hibernation mode"). I use OS/2 Warp 4 FP 6, Xircom Creditcard Ethernet. -- CU/2 (( Proud to be member of Team OS/2 Europe #294 Alexander Wagner )) RTV Franken Team OS/2 Franken (( Request PGP-key Subject: Request for PGP-Keys --------------------------------------------------------------------------- You may also reply to Alexander.Wagner@gmx.de or Alexander.Wagner@gmx.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 19 10:52:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA07710 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:52:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28835; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:50:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:47:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28581; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:47:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28557; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:47:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id JAA25494 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:47:57 -0600 Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:47:57 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux on 760ED, anyone? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I have a colleague who is considering installing Linux on his 760ED. I'd appreciate any gotcha's he should be aware of. Thanks, Chris Schumann From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 19 10:54:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA07730 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29309; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:53:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:52:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29196; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:52:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (ftp.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29174; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:52:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from peter (142.90.100.90) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V5.1 Vn8g) with SMTP; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:52:07 -1300 From: "peter machule" To: "Mel Del Gallo" , "TP List" , "Randal Whittle" Subject: Re: Laptop->desktop drive adapter source wanted Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:51:51 -0800 Message-ID: <01be43c3$a15c0a40$19956420@peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: Actually it's not ;-{ We have two identical ones here. They work wonderfully with our older IBM 2.5 inch HD's. The other week I put on a 3Gs and a 5Gs 3.1GB and 5.1 GB respectively. The drives were very unhappy and made weird noises . We tried various desktops and had the same result. The autodetect Bios on these desktops could NOT recoqnize the drives. Before any one asks we did this on the secondary IDE channel and for fun even jumpered the drives as slave on attempt number 3. Drives work fine in a Panasonic laptop (old) and a Toshiba laptops (even older ). If anyone has a clue, I would be happy to hear it. ..peter.. BTW I have available one spare New Travelstar 5GS 5.1GB UltraDMA 2.5-Inch Notebook EIDE Disk Drive by IBM $199 including shipping IBM DPLA-25120 17MM 5.1GB Why the hell does IBM use the same Part number ie 5GS , for totally differnt sizes of HD's ??? -----Original Message----- From: Randal Whittle To: Mel Del Gallo ; TP List Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 11:42 PM Subject: Re: Laptop->desktop drive adapter source wanted >At 05:36 PM 1/18/99 -0800, you wrote: >>Excuse me for butting in but do I understand that you can get an adapter >>that will >>run your Thinkpad HD on a desktop? How is the HD powered? > > The adapter that converts the tiny-sized IDE interface into a >desktop-sized IDE also breaks off the power pins into a standard power plug. > > Its not rocket science--its just a converter. > >- Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 19 11:22:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA08137 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:22:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01184; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:18:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:16:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00970; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:16:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00952; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:16:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.15.241]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990119161554.HERQ8584@770>; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:15:54 +0000 Message-ID: <36A4B04B.4720@worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:18:19 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peter machule CC: Mel Del Gallo , TP List , Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Laptop->desktop drive adapter source wanted References: <01be43c3$a15c0a40$19956420@peter> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The cable select is different on older IBM drives than on large IBM and Toshiba 2.5" drives. peter machule wrote: > > Actually it's not ;-{ > > We have two identical ones here. > They work wonderfully with our older IBM 2.5 inch HD's. > The other week I put on a 3Gs and a 5Gs 3.1GB and 5.1 GB respectively. > The drives were very unhappy and made weird noises . > We tried various desktops and had the same result. > The autodetect Bios on these desktops could NOT recoqnize the drives. > > Before any one asks we did this on the secondary IDE channel and for fun > even jumpered the drives as slave on attempt number 3. > Drives work fine in a Panasonic laptop (old) and a Toshiba laptops (even older ). > > If anyone has a clue, I would be happy to hear it. > ..peter.. > > BTW I have available one spare New > Travelstar 5GS 5.1GB UltraDMA 2.5-Inch Notebook EIDE Disk Drive by IBM > $199 including shipping > > IBM DPLA-25120 17MM 5.1GB > > Why the hell does IBM use the same Part number ie 5GS , for totally differnt sizes of HD's ??? > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Randal Whittle > To: Mel Del Gallo ; TP List > Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 11:42 PM > Subject: Re: Laptop->desktop drive adapter source wanted > > >At 05:36 PM 1/18/99 -0800, you wrote: > >>Excuse me for butting in but do I understand that you can get an adapter > >>that will > >>run your Thinkpad HD on a desktop? How is the HD powered? > > > > The adapter that converts the tiny-sized IDE interface into a > >desktop-sized IDE also breaks off the power pins into a standard power plug. > > > > Its not rocket science--its just a converter. > > > >- Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 19 11:47:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA08455 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03220; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:45:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:45:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03113; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:45:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from falk.c2i.net (mail.c2i.net [193.216.69.98]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03072; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:45:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mp-217-240-187.daxnet.no (mp-217-240-187.daxnet.no [193.217.240.187]) by falk.c2i.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA22518; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:39:43 +0100 (MET) From: eyvind.spangen@c2i.net (Eyvind Spangen) To: "Alexander Wagner" Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hibernation/Suspend on 385ED Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:45:56 GMT Message-ID: <36acb59e.174552363@mail.c2i.net> References: <199901190842.3833064.7@mail.stelarcom.de> In-Reply-To: <199901190842.3833064.7@mail.stelarcom.de> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:42:36 +0100 (MEZ), you wrote: >Hello! > >Simple problem: my 385ED doesn't allways suspend/hibernate. It simply = beeps=20 >that's all. That happens on closing the display, pressing FN-F4 and also= =20 >using Fuel-object (there I get an error message: "Can not enter=20 >suspend/hibernation mode").=20 > >I use OS/2 Warp 4 FP 6, Xircom Creditcard Ethernet.=20 This happens on my 755CD sometimes too. It just beeps and shuts down the harddrive. But if I try a few times, it will work. The computer is now "degraded" to a fancy typewriter/cd-player for my father - the display backlight quit working, so I connected an old IBM 12" CRT to it. Works great for that purpose.=20 I ordered a 770ED for $2699 yesterday - a friend of mine, currently in the US, will bring it over here in a few weeks.. ES From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 19 13:17:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09658 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:17:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08890; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:15:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:14:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08681; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:14:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (mail.islandnet.com [199.175.106.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08655; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:14:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from 139-142-112-237.islandnet.com [139.142.112.237] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m102ff3-000KuVC for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:13:57 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: pkhoury@mindspring.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 560 battery problem Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:17:12 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <199901190544.AAA21906@smtp1.mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <199901190544.AAA21906@smtp1.mindspring.com> Lines: 39 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: The same problem, but in regard to a 701, was discussed in this list recently. It turned out to be that the charging system got confused. It thought that the battery was at 100%, but in fact it was closer to zero. A DOS-based program RESETBAT.EXE (note this was the 701, not the 560) restored the charging system to sanity. Since the 560 is the spiritual descendant of the 701 ... but you try it at your own risk! Other suggestions, which turned out to be false leads in that case, included: battery no good charger no good (would require professional repair) brick no good In article <199901190544.AAA21906@smtp1.mindspring.com>, you wrote: :One of the guys at work in the furniture section has a ThinkPad 560, and whenever he takes :off the AC power, the machine dies. I think it's the battery, because he says the light :doesn't turn on (for charging), and he's also tried taking the battery in and out of the machine. :Unfortunately, Corporate serves him, so they want to send him a new machine (where he needs a Zip drive :to first back up his data). : :Has anyone had this problem? Is it probably the battery? : : :-- :Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 :http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html :Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 :ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 : : -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 19 13:18:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09674 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:18:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08930; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:15:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:14:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08719; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:14:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (mail.islandnet.com [199.175.106.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08664; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:14:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from 139-142-112-237.islandnet.com [139.142.112.237] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m102ff5-000KttC for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:13:59 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: machule@triumf.ca Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Laptop->desktop drive adapter source wanted Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:31:21 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <01be43c3$a15c0a40$19956420@peter> In-Reply-To: <01be43c3$a15c0a40$19956420@peter> Lines: 10 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: A related note: do the thinner drives (I think they are 12 mm), such as used by the TP 701, take the same adaptor as the standard (19 mm ?) drives? -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 19 13:20:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09692 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:20:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08552; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:13:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:10:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08354; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:10:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08340; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:10:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgoldman.vip.best.com (dgoldman.vip.best.com [204.156.137.147]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id KAA09138 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:05:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990119095402.00b06270@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:05:45 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Problems with IBM and extended warranty Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I'm not sure quite what is going on, but I'm having a hell of a time getting an extended warranty for my new ThinkPad 380Z. First, I ordered an extended warranty from the mail order house at the same time that I purchased the ThinkPad. It turns out that the warranty that was sold to me did not cover the model of ThinkPad that I purchased. So I returned it and tried to deal directly with IBM. I contacted an IBM sales rep who was willing to directly sell me an extended warranty. It only took about a dozen calls to get to the right person. She researched the price for my model and then called me back to let me know that an ON-SITE warranty was *NOT* available for this model (2635-JBU). She did give me a quote for a three year EZ-Serve warranty, though. This information took a number of voice mail messages and one or two direct calls before I found out everything I needed. By the time I could call her back to finalize the purchase, she had moved on to another section within IBM. I received a message >from another lady at IBM who would be taking over my "account". After three (3) weeks and a number of messages, we finally talked in real time. It then only took her two weeks to get back to me with confirmed pricing. This morning, she indicated that both ON-SITE and EZ-Serve warranty were available for my unit. For a total of 3 years of EZ-Serve (depot) service the price was $198. For a total of 3 years of next business day ON-Site warranty, the price was $345. For only $150, I was willing to spend the money to be upgraded to on-site service. But before going ahead with it, I asked one important question: If I'm home and request a service call, the tech will be at my door on the next business day, but if I'm at a customer site where IBM doesn't offer on-site service, what does IBM do? The response floored me! I was told that even though the unit was a laptop (i.e., PORTABLE), on-site service would only be performed at the ONE ADDRESS where the unit was registered. So even if I was at a customer site in Chicago, New York, Atlanta, etc, I could NOT get on-site service unless I took the machine back to the registered address. WHAT????? Does this make sense to anybody else or should I contact another IBM rep and try to get confirmation of this information? -- /=================================================================\ | David Goldman | My business motto is: | | IVR@DGoldman.Com | Choose any two: [ ] Fast | | | [ ] Cheap | | Ask me for my PGP key. | [ ] Right | \=================================================================/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 19 13:26:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09757 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:26:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10047; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:24:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:24:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09885; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:24:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09839; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:23:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA25198; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:23:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:23:06 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: David Goldman cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Problems with IBM and extended warranty In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990119095402.00b06270@shell9.ba.best.com> Message-ID: Organization: Yeshiva University MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: You could just tell them when you call for service that your address has changed since you registered the machine. Josh On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, David Goldman wrote: > I'm not sure quite what is going on, but I'm having a hell of a > time getting an extended warranty for my new ThinkPad 380Z. > > First, I ordered an extended warranty from the mail order house > at the same time that I purchased the ThinkPad. It turns out that > the warranty that was sold to me did not cover the model of > ThinkPad that I purchased. So I returned it and tried to deal > directly with IBM. > > I contacted an IBM sales rep who was willing to directly sell me > an extended warranty. It only took about a dozen calls to get to > the right person. She researched the price for my model and then > called me back to let me know that an ON-SITE warranty was *NOT* > available for this model (2635-JBU). She did give me a quote for > a three year EZ-Serve warranty, though. This information took a > number of voice mail messages and one or two direct calls before > I found out everything I needed. > > By the time I could call her back to finalize the purchase, she > had moved on to another section within IBM. I received a message > from another lady at IBM who would be taking over my "account". > After three (3) weeks and a number of messages, we finally talked > in real time. It then only took her two weeks to get back to me > with confirmed pricing. > > This morning, she indicated that both ON-SITE and EZ-Serve warranty > were available for my unit. For a total of 3 years of EZ-Serve > (depot) service the price was $198. For a total of 3 years of next > business day ON-Site warranty, the price was $345. For only $150, > I was willing to spend the money to be upgraded to on-site service. > But before going ahead with it, I asked one important question: > > If I'm home and request a service call, the tech will be at my > door on the next business day, but if I'm at a customer site > where IBM doesn't offer on-site service, what does IBM do? > > The response floored me! I was told that even though the unit was > a laptop (i.e., PORTABLE), on-site service would only be performed > at the ONE ADDRESS where the unit was registered. So even if I was > at a customer site in Chicago, New York, Atlanta, etc, I could NOT > get on-site service unless I took the machine back to the registered > address. WHAT????? > > Does this make sense to anybody else or should I contact another > IBM rep and try to get confirmation of this information? > > > -- > /=================================================================\ > | David Goldman | My business motto is: | > | IVR@DGoldman.Com | Choose any two: [ ] Fast | > | | [ ] Cheap | > | Ask me for my PGP key. | [ ] Right | > \=================================================================/ > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 19 17:12:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA12957 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:12:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23227; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:10:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:08:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23078; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:08:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23037; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:08:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from atreyu (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id QAA02335; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:08:10 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990119160803.00810d70@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:08:03 -0600 To: David Goldman From: Ron Heiby Subject: Re: Problems with IBM and extended warranty Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990119095402.00b06270@shell9.ba.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 10:05 AM 1/19/99 -0800, David Goldman wrote: >The response floored me! I was told that even though the unit was >a laptop (i.e., PORTABLE), on-site service would only be performed >at the ONE ADDRESS where the unit was registered. So even if I was >at a customer site in Chicago, New York, Atlanta, etc, I could NOT >get on-site service unless I took the machine back to the registered >address. WHAT????? I was told that when calling for service, I could specify (register?) the address where I was planning to be when the service was going to happen. Of course, this has to be within one of the areas where IBM provides such service. >Does this make sense to anybody else or should I contact another >IBM rep and try to get confirmation of this information? No. It does not make sense. You should contact another IBM rep. BTW, I'm surprised that you couldn't buy this via mail order. Years ago, I had to jump through hoops to buy the on-site upgrade for my TP750C, and again for my 755CE. This time, with my 770ED, all I had to do was ask my PC vendor and got a warranty upgrade packet (for ~$150). BTW, the warranty packet I was sent does not say that it covers my machine. However, the updated information on the IBM Fax-Back line indicates that my machine type *is* included on that warranty packet. You might try that route, and order the exact coverage you want by "part number". Sorry I don't have the number handy. I think it's on the warranty packets. (Mine is at home.) IBM should be able to tell you that much, at least.... Good luck! Let us know what you find out about service while "portable". -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers iQA/AwUBNqUCOmasl5Jijs7SEQLwxQCg9cHZ8JsVR/4H/zAjvitKAZl8GiYAnRMC SdlejvQfgoq/edvX439xOK4f =18N+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 19 19:10:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA14350 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:10:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29233; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:10:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:08:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29108; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:08:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29089; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-073.usc.edu [128.125.223.73]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id QAA08054 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:08:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990119160111.0092a100@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:08:35 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: AGP Graphics? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Sorry all, for this not being directly TP-related, but I know some of you gurus know about this stuff... I'm interested in getting a video capture card (for my desktop machine--I thought about it for the ThinkPad instead, but decided Video is best edited on my desktop where all the storage peripherals are). The one I'm most interested in is the Matrox G200 TV, which is also a video card. My machine is a 2-yr old Pentium Pro 200--does not have an AGP slot (fairly recent creation). So I'm faced with either waiting until "someday" to purchase the video capture card so I can get it in an AGP version, or getting a PCI version I can use today with my current desktop machine. I recall there was at least one person on this list who said AGP was a marketing scam (by Intel?) that offered no real advantage over PCI. Is that the case? Will I be missing out on anything if I get the PCI version of this card instead of AGP? I figure whenever I upgrade to a newer desktop machine, I can always bring along a PCI-version video card and have 2 vid. cards in the new machine (perhaps connect an additional monitor, since Win 98 supports such a thing now). But will I wish I had gotten an AGP card instead? - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 19 19:36:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA14548 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:36:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00747; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:35:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:34:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00649; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm06sm.pmm.cw.net (pm06sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00630; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:34:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from na (usr44-dialup26.mix2.Atlanta.cw.net [166.55.61.218]) by PM06SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35510) with SMTP id <0F5U004DY1K1UY@PM06SM.PMM.CW.NET> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:33:40 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:33:36 -0500 From: Angela Walker Subject: TP600--Can't hear modem to dial or to use RingCentral!! To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <00dc01be440c$86fbd560$0200000a@na.anyhost.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D9_01BE43E2.9BD2B5A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D9_01BE43E2.9BD2B5A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think I've seen it mentioned before about not being able to hear the = modem when it connects, but I didn't much care about that, so I didn't = read the messages. However, I recently tried to use the RingCentral as = a speakerphone and I couldn't hear the dialtone or anything with it = either. It could make things a little difficult. I think I have the = most recent RingCentral and the V.90 upgrade to the modem, but the = latest patch for the modem didn't work. I'm sure it's just a setting = somewhere, but I am totally at a loss. Thanks for any suggestions, Angela Walker akwalker@cyberramp.net ------=_NextPart_000_00D9_01BE43E2.9BD2B5A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think I've seen it mentioned = before about not=20 being able to hear the modem when it connects, but I didn't much care = about=20 that, so I didn't read the messages.  However, I recently tried to = use the=20 RingCentral as a speakerphone and I couldn't hear the dialtone or = anything with=20 it either.  It could make things a little difficult.  I think = I have=20 the most recent RingCentral and the V.90 upgrade to the modem, but the = latest=20 patch for the modem didn't work.  I'm sure it's just a setting = somewhere,=20 but I am totally at a loss.
 
Thanks for any = suggestions,
Angela Walker
akwalker@cyberramp.net
------=_NextPart_000_00D9_01BE43E2.9BD2B5A0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 19 20:58:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA15209 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:58:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04381; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:57:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:54:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04242; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:54:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (mail.islandnet.com [199.175.106.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04221; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from 139-142-112-208.islandnet.com [139.142.112.208] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m102mqp-000KuDC for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:54:35 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: dgoldman@best.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Problems with IBM and extended warranty Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:16:18 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <4.1.19990119095402.00b06270@shell9.ba.best.com> In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990119095402.00b06270@shell9.ba.best.com> Lines: 18 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: Your story doesn't surprise me at all. Although I must say that I got excellent *service* under warranty from IBM, some elements of their bureaucracy convinced me that, although they *sell* computers, they don't like to *use* them. For example, my 701 came with an International Warranty at no extra charge. However, to activate the warranty, I had to fax them a copy of the purchase documents, even though I bought the machine direct from IBM. Then I had to wait a month for them to do the paperwork. -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 20 00:02:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA16727 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:02:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09758; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:01:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:59:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09522; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:59:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09500; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-55.gate.net [207.36.212.55]) by wichita.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA14640; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:58:57 -0500 Message-ID: <36A5628B.639CD55@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:58:51 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Tan Wing Wah CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [770ED] What's the extra rubber strip for? References: <000001be428c$35401780$0100a8c0@Administrator.jaring.my> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: it covers the ultrabay plug when the floppy is used as an external floppy.. Warren Tan Wing Wah wrote: > I got a little rubber strip with my new 770ED - I can't figure out what it's > for! > > Any ideas? :) -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 20 00:03:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA16743 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:03:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09880; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:02:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:01:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09690; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:01:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09673; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:01:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.61.133]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990120050032.AGE2790@dts-jl> for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 05:00:32 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990119235942.00b09150@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:59:42 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: suggestion for list composer In-Reply-To: <19990118221208.22480.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 02:12 PM 1/18/99 -0800, Chris Scott wrote: >would it be possible to make the subject summaries into anchors for >easy message >navigation. just a thought. > I don't have a clue what you're suggesting here, but if you want the list admin to see your suggestion, you'll need to send it to thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu (where all the requests for unsubscribes should also go). Hope this helps! Jane From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 20 13:29:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA23508 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12761; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:28:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:21:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12261; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ux5.cso.uiuc.edu (root@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.45]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12125; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:20:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from big-man (crh4210.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.197.99]) by ux5.cso.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA25832 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 12:20:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <004001be44a1$7da2d780$63c57e82@big-man> From: "George Neurauter" To: Subject: Memory cache limit on i1410 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 12:19:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I am trying to figure out if the memory limit is 64MB or 512MB on the ALI Aladdin chipset. I found a spec sheet for it at http://www25.pair.com/hardware/chipsets/chip-ali-aladdiniv.htm#features , but it doesn't tell me if it's a BX or HX. The sheet says that the cacheability depends on the size of the Tag SRAM chip (8 bit for 64MB; 11 bit for 512MB). The i Series product info sheet at IBM doesn't say anything. Does anyone have info on this? Thanks! --- George Neurauter neurautr@uiuc.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 20 17:14:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA26112 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:14:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26674; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:12:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:10:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26474; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgw00.execpc.com (sendmail@mailgw00.execpc.com [169.207.1.78]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26448; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:10:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from earth (hseaman@earth.execpc.com [169.207.16.1]) by mailgw00.execpc.com (8.9.1) id QAA27749; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:10:23 -0600 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:10:23 -0600 (CST) From: Harry Seaman X-Sender: hseaman@earth To: Randal Whittle cc: TP List Subject: Re: AGP Graphics? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990119160111.0092a100@rcf.usc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Randal Whittle wrote: > I figure whenever I upgrade to a newer desktop machine, I can always bring > along a PCI-version video card and have 2 vid. cards in the new machine > (perhaps connect an additional monitor, since Win 98 supports such a thing > now). > Though I haven't tried it muself, I've heard that to use two monitors, both video cards must be pci, and preferably the same model. harry seaman From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 20 20:39:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA28750 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 20:39:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04926; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 20:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 20 Jan 1999 20:37:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04776; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 20:37:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04763; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 20:37:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from amdk6266 ([205.130.19.132]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 7225200 ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 20:48:16 -0500 Message-ID: <000501be44dd$c8df6f60$020aa8c0@amdk6266> From: "Slip" To: "Harry Seaman" , "Randal Whittle" Cc: "TP List" Subject: Re: AGP Graphics? Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 20:31:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 List-Unsubscribe: >> I figure whenever I upgrade to a newer desktop machine, I can always bring >> along a PCI-version video card and have 2 vid. cards in the new machine >> (perhaps connect an additional monitor, since Win 98 supports such a thing >> now). >> >Though I haven't tried it muself, I've heard that to use two monitors, >both video cards must be pci, and preferably the same model. It can be PCI or AGP. Only stipulation with AGP(or PCI for that matter) is that they must *both* have 2D capabilities. So you can't just put an accelerator card in. In my perticular case, I have a Trident3DImage AGP card that is 2D/3D. I then have a Pure3d1 accelerator card that is only 3D. I had hoped to use the Pure3d as a second monitor-source, but it doesn't work out. Check out the Windows98 help file, it's supprisingly helpful. Good luck. -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 20 21:45:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA29361 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:45:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07531; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:44:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:43:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07410; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:43:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from Hydro.CAM.ORG (Hydro.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07391; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:43:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from cam.org (Dialup-577.HIP.CAM.ORG [199.84.45.72]) by Hydro.CAM.ORG (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id VAA00150 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:43:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36A69528.497DF35@cam.org> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:47:05 -0500 From: Richard Berdych X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP560: Slow to resume from suspend References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi folks, I'm not sure if this is TP-specific or a general laptop problem, so please bear with me... I mainly use my TP560 for dial-up web surfing, using a Motorola Mariner combo 28.8 modem / ethernet PCMCIA card. I generally don't shut the machine down, except when Windows 95 acts up, that is ;-( Instead, I just close the display when I'm done and Mr. Stinky goes beddy-bye. The weirdness occurs in the 15 or 20 seconds after I open the lid. Once or twice during this time the machine just freezes: not even the mouse responds. And if I try to connect to my ISP before things settle down, Dial-Up Networking gives me a "modem not available" message. Can anyone shed some light on what goes on in the machine when it comes out of hibernation? I'm guessing the BIOS is doing some sanity checking and the PCMCIA software is curious as to whether any PC cards came or went while it wasn't looking. As for what Win 95 does on waking up, who knows? Is there anything I can do to make the machine resume with a little more zip? It only takes a few seconds for the system to become usable again, but I really dislike the feeling that, however briefly, some lame-o programmer is in control of my computer and not me. Thanks for your thoughts and remain cool, Rich berdych@cam.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 00:46:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA01211 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13280; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:46:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:44:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13122; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:44:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.7.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13109; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-014.usc.edu [128.125.224.14]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id VAA17009; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:44:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990120213506.00a113e0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:40:04 -0800 To: "Slip" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Dual Video Cards (Was: AGP Graphics?) In-Reply-To: <000501be44dd$c8df6f60$020aa8c0@amdk6266> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:31 PM 1/20/99 -0500, you wrote: >>Though I haven't tried it muself, I've heard that to use two monitors, >>both video cards must be pci, and preferably the same model. > >It can be PCI or AGP. Only stipulation with AGP(or PCI for that matter) is >that they must *both* have 2D capabilities. So you can't just put an >accelerator card in. In my perticular case, I have a Trident3DImage AGP card >that is 2D/3D. I then have a Pure3d1 accelerator card that is only 3D. I had >hoped to use the Pure3d as a second monitor-source, but it doesn't work out. >Check out the Windows98 help file, it's supprisingly helpful. Am I to presume your "3D Only" card is a specialized game-oriented card like a "Voodoo" or somesuch? What I'm driving at is for those of use who just have or get "normal" accelerated video cards as opposed to game-oriented ones, wouldn't it be the case that essentially *all* business-oriented cards have 2D accleration? - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 01:48:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA01706 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 01:48:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14856; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 01:47:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 01:46:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14731; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 01:46:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14704; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 01:46:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp148.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.148]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id AAA20525 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:46:24 -0600 (CST) From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: TP560: Slow to resume from suspend Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:45:16 -0600 Message-ID: <000401be4509$9adf4be0$ffa8fea9@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <36A69528.497DF35@cam.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Mr. Berdych: Rule #1, in response to your concern, is that our control over our Windows environments is at best an illusion. Control freaks need Unix or a derivative thereof. =) That said, the answer to your question depends on what your machine is set to do when it's idling. I leave my 1720 on most of the time too, and I've disabled nearly all the power controls so that it can check mail and perform maintenance. There's really no need for it to hibernate, and I find it irritating to have to wait for it, just as you do. I recommend, in your case, starting with BIOS. 560 owners can tell me for sure, but I'd bet you can set BIOS to not suspend when the panel is closed, not hibernate on a timer, etc. As long as the LCD turns off when the lid is closed, that's enough for me, though I do prefer to have the hard drive spin down after a half hour, to prolong its life. You can also disable Windows power controls via control panel -> power management. And finally, you can eliminate one more hitch by entering display settings -> advanced -> monitor, and de-select "Reset display on suspend/resume". If you do choose to allow the machine to suspend, I know of no way to prevent it from checking hardware status. It's a good thing for LAN users, but not necessary if your configuration never changes; nevertheless, you're stuck with it, I think. Hope this helps ... -d > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Berdych [mailto:berdych@CAM.ORG] > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 8:47 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: TP560: Slow to resume from suspend > > > > Hi folks, > > I'm not sure if this is TP-specific or a general laptop > problem, so please bear with me... > > I mainly use my TP560 for dial-up web surfing, using > a Motorola Mariner combo 28.8 modem / ethernet > PCMCIA card. I generally don't shut the machine > down, except when Windows 95 acts up, that is ;-( > Instead, I just close the display when I'm done and > Mr. Stinky goes beddy-bye. > > The weirdness occurs in the 15 or 20 seconds after > I open the lid. Once or twice during this time the > machine just freezes: not even the mouse responds. > And if I try to connect to my ISP before things settle > down, Dial-Up Networking gives me a "modem not > available" message. > > Can anyone shed some light on what goes on in the > machine when it comes out of hibernation? I'm guessing > the BIOS is doing some sanity checking and the PCMCIA > software is curious as to whether any PC cards came or > went while it wasn't looking. As for what Win 95 does on > waking up, who knows? > > Is there anything I can do to make the machine resume > with a little more zip? It only takes a few seconds for the > system to become usable again, but I really dislike the > feeling that, however briefly, some lame-o programmer is > in control of my computer and not me. > > Thanks for your thoughts and remain cool, > > Rich > berdych@cam.org > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 01:49:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA01715 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 01:49:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15071; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 01:49:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 01:48:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14915; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 01:48:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14893; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 01:48:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp148.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.148]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id AAA20650 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:48:48 -0600 (CST) From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: TP560: Slow to resume from suspend Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:47:40 -0600 Message-ID: <000501be4509$f093e8c0$ffa8fea9@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <36A69528.497DF35@cam.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: By the way ... "Mr. Stinky"? > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Berdych [mailto:berdych@CAM.ORG] > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 8:47 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: TP560: Slow to resume from suspend > > > > Hi folks, > > I'm not sure if this is TP-specific or a general laptop > problem, so please bear with me... > > I mainly use my TP560 for dial-up web surfing, using > a Motorola Mariner combo 28.8 modem / ethernet > PCMCIA card. I generally don't shut the machine > down, except when Windows 95 acts up, that is ;-( > Instead, I just close the display when I'm done and > Mr. Stinky goes beddy-bye. > > The weirdness occurs in the 15 or 20 seconds after > I open the lid. Once or twice during this time the > machine just freezes: not even the mouse responds. > And if I try to connect to my ISP before things settle > down, Dial-Up Networking gives me a "modem not > available" message. > > Can anyone shed some light on what goes on in the > machine when it comes out of hibernation? I'm guessing > the BIOS is doing some sanity checking and the PCMCIA > software is curious as to whether any PC cards came or > went while it wasn't looking. As for what Win 95 does on > waking up, who knows? > > Is there anything I can do to make the machine resume > with a little more zip? It only takes a few seconds for the > system to become usable again, but I really dislike the > feeling that, however briefly, some lame-o programmer is > in control of my computer and not me. > > Thanks for your thoughts and remain cool, > > Rich > berdych@cam.org > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 02:13:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA02066 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 02:13:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15983; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 02:12:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 02:12:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15900; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 02:12:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (smtp0.mindspring.com [207.69.200.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15887; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 02:12:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mindspring.com (user-38ldhb1.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.197.97]) by smtp0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA24343 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 02:12:12 -0500 (EST) Sender: root@smtp0.mindspring.com Message-ID: <36A6D34C.47A2D0B9@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:12:12 -0800 From: Paul Khoury X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4c) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Good Pentium ThinkPad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I'm seriously thinking about selling my ThinkPad 300 and 701CS on eBay, or trading for a good Pentium notebook. Which Pentium model would be best? I'm thinking in the lines of a 755, 760, 365, or 560, preferably $400 or less. I'm finding that my main 701 is too slow, but I'm still going to keep that and the 750 (my file and application server). I'm cutting down on more and more equipment now. TIA, Paul Khoury pkhoury@mindspring.com (not loop anymore_`) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 04:08:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA02753 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 04:08:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19952; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 04:07:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 04:05:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19742; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 04:05:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (IDENT:kim@fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19728; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 04:05:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA23346 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 04:05:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 04:05:43 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: Thinkpad LISTSERV Subject: RE: TP560: Slow to resume from suspend In-Reply-To: <000501be4509$f093e8c0$ffa8fea9@tigger> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, David Talkington wrote: > By the way ... "Mr. Stinky"? Some folks like to call their Thinkpads "Stinkpads." Probably due to latent hostile feelings towards IBM from the 1970s. :-) -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 05:09:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA03046 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 05:09:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21736; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 05:04:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 05:03:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21626; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 05:03:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21612; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 05:03:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22691 invoked by uid 66); 21 Jan 1999 10:02:43 -0000 Received: from seneca by slarti with UUCP; 21 Jan 1999 10:02:43 -0000 (GMT) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Harald Milz Newsgroups: local.ml.thinkpad Subject: Re: Good Pentium ThinkPad Date: 21 Jan 1999 08:52:48 GMT Organization: Linux.DE Lines: 15 Message-ID: <786pt0$fuj$4@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> References: <36A6D34C.47A2D0B9@mindspring.com> Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de NNTP-Posting-Host: seneca.muc.de X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980618 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.35 (i586)) List-Unsubscribe: Paul Khoury wrote: > I'm seriously thinking about selling my ThinkPad 300 and 701CS on eBay, > or trading for > a good Pentium notebook. Which Pentium model would be best? > I'm thinking in the lines of a 755, 760, 365, or 560, preferably $400 or > less. The fastest 755 was a 486-100. 760's should be cheap now. The slowest was the EL with a P120 w/o 2nd level cache. Worked for me fine for 1.5 yrs. (Until I got a 770...) -- Accuracy, n.: The vice of being right From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 07:47:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA03750 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:47:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00679; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:47:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:46:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00538; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:46:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00525; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:46:21 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from AudVidSvs@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id UIJWa03539; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:45:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8c915bf.36a72150@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:45:04 EST To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Good Pentium ThinkPad Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 1/21/99 4:08:07 AM Central Standard Time, hm@seneca.muc.de writes: > The fastest 755 was a 486-100. 760's should be cheap now. The slowest was > the EL with a P120 w/o 2nd level cache. Worked for me fine for 1.5 yrs. > (Until I got a 770...) > > -- > Accuracy, n.: > The vice of being right > The slowest 760 was not a p120. I have a 760CD that is a p90 that I use for accounting and as a server and it is a great machine. I imagine you could find one in your price range. The CD had the interchangable floppy and CD or extra battery or hard drive. It has A/V in and out and pretty good battery life.Built-in upgradeable modem,12.1" active LCD,Dual IR devices and is built like a tank. Good Luck Ed Harris From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 08:29:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA04010 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:29:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02178; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:28:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:28:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02076; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:28:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02063; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:28:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from lknorr (slip-32-100-241-230.ny.us.ibm.net [32.100.241.230]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA72398; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:28:13 GMT Message-ID: <001c01be4541$f163e880$e6f16420@lknorr> Reply-To: "Russell P Knorr" From: "Russell P Knorr" To: , Cc: Subject: Re: Good Pentium ThinkPad Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:28:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I just bought a 760CD from IBM (refurbished) for $700 it is 90 Pent with MMX and MPEG plus a modem 33.6 with A/V in and out plus a 1.6 g hard drive etc.It runs fineand is well built. -----Original Message----- From: AudVidSvs@aol.com To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thursday, January 21, 1999 7:47 AM Subject: Re: Good Pentium ThinkPad >In a message dated 1/21/99 4:08:07 AM Central Standard Time, hm@seneca.muc.de >writes: > >> The fastest 755 was a 486-100. 760's should be cheap now. The slowest was >> the EL with a P120 w/o 2nd level cache. Worked for me fine for 1.5 yrs. >> (Until I got a 770...) >> >> -- >> Accuracy, n.: >> The vice of being right >> >The slowest 760 was not a p120. I have a 760CD that is a p90 that I use for >accounting and as a server and it is a great machine. I imagine you could find >one in your price range. > >The CD had the interchangable floppy and CD or extra battery or hard drive. It >has A/V in and out and pretty good battery life.Built-in upgradeable >modem,12.1" active LCD,Dual IR devices and is built like a tank. > >Good Luck >Ed Harris > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 08:31:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA04024 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:31:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02488; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:31:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02379; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:31:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (erich.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02362; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:31:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from peter (142.90.100.95) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V5.1 Vn8g) with SMTP; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 05:30:57 -1300 From: "peter machule" To: CC: Subject: Re: Good Pentium ThinkPad Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 05:30:46 -0800 Message-ID: <01be4542$40b64e00$5f645a8e@peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: Nope re 755 ;-} The 755's included the rather cool 755CX . And the cooler than cool, 755CV (755CDV ) It was the last of the line and tested out a number of things. Pentium 75 Lio Ion battery. 800 *600 display. Check out the masterful document: twbook.pdf available at IBM' FTP site : ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles It has all the older Tp's with Real and usefull info about them. The WEB pages, when you can actually find them are often wrong ;-{ BTW I got the last New 755Cx on the planet about 3 months ago. Nice toy all said and done, when you throw out the lame OS2 that it came with. ;-} The last was gentle tease aimed at Paul . (grin) Good luck on finding a good 760 at a good price . Try www.ubid.com the 760E is usually ~ $700 and if your real good at talking to IBM you can get full warranty on it. .....maybe . They are officially refurbs and only come with a 30-90 day warranty. www.onsale has gotten more than a little pricey lately with beatup 755C 's going for over $600. Try to avoid the 760E "L " version, it literally means Low cost and usually involved some bonheaded costcutting on IBM's part. The decisions were sometimes amazingly stupid. ie. No cache to save less than $10. On the other hand no "M-Wave " is arguably a smart move . (grin) There are way Too many versions of the 760 series and they should have changed part numbers at least once. The early ones; 760L 760C and the "D" versions thereof, are completely different and MUCH slower than the later "E" and "X" series. The older ones are not even based on a Pentium chipset and it really shows. The later use Intel's Mobile Triton which significanltly helps. Feel free to ask for more info. I've played with more than a few of these. ;-} ..peter... The 365's are just cheap . You can certainly tell the difference between a corporate machine and a "retail" box as far as IBM is concerned. Please, no flames from loyal 365 users .(smile) >Paul Khoury wrote: >> I'm seriously thinking about selling my ThinkPad 300 and 701CS on eBay, >> or trading for >> a good Pentium notebook. Which Pentium model would be best? > >> I'm thinking in the lines of a 755, 760, 365, or 560, preferably $400 or >> less. > >The fastest 755 was a 486-100. 760's should be cheap now. The slowest was >the EL with a P120 w/o 2nd level cache. The even older 760C with a P-90 was probably slower . > Worked for me fine for 1.5 yrs. >(Until I got a 770...) > >-- >Accuracy, n.: > The vice of being right From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 09:30:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA04435 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:30:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05575; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:29:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:28:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05462; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:28:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05426; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:26:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:26:23 -0500 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from rbell-home (chi-qbu-nvp-vty90.as.wcom.net [209.154.114.90]) by hil-img-ims-2.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id JAA25109 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:26:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Rob Bell" To: Subject: RE: Good Pentium ThinkPad Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:30:21 -0600 Message-ID: <000601be454a$9330d4e0$96739ad1@rbell-home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <786pt0$fuj$4@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> List-Unsubscribe: Actually, you're off on a couple of your specs. The 755 series had a 755Cx model that was a Pentium. It was a P-75. Also, the 760 series did have a slower processor than the P-120. One of the models (760? or 760E?) was a P-90. That was a really ugly looking laptop. IBM tried to change its appearance by putting a radius on some of the edges and it turned out quite homely. Certainly different than the square-edged 760EL and 760XL. The 760EL P-120 was quite functional with 40MB running Win95. That is, as long as you didn't run a whole bunch of apps at the same time. Even a 755Cs (486DX2-50) with 20MB functions reasonably well except for that tiny screen. HTH, Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: Harald Milz [mailto:hm@seneca.muc.de] > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 1999 2:53 AM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Good Pentium ThinkPad > > The fastest 755 was a 486-100. 760's should be cheap now. The slowest was > the EL with a P120 w/o 2nd level cache. Worked for me fine for 1.5 yrs. > (Until I got a 770...) > > -- > Accuracy, n.: > The vice of being right > Hmmmm.... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 11:05:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA05527 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:05:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11330; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:03:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:58:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10951; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-lax-3.pilot.net (mail-lax-3.pilot.net [205.139.40.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10814; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rand.org (unknown-8-173.rand.org [130.154.8.173] (may be forged)) by mail-lax-3.pilot.net (Pilot/) with ESMTP id HAA11189 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:58:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from dcmail.rand.org (dcmail.rand.org [130.154.32.17]) by mail.rand.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA24747 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:58:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mussington-d (mussington-d.rand.org [130.154.32.178]) by dcmail.rand.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA18398 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:58:15 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "David Mussington" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: Good Pentium Thinkpad Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:55:56 -0500 Message-ID: <000101be4556$88223600$b2209a82@mussington-d.rand.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi: I own a P100 Thinkpad 760ELD that "flies" with Redhat Linux 5.2. It has the integrated CD-Rom, and I bought the external kit to allow out-board use of the floppy. This is a great system, and allows me to experiment with Linux almost without problems. Now if only I could figure out how to compile APM into the Linux kernel.... David Mussington The Truth is Out There. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 13:16:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA07317 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:16:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18672; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:13:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18533; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:13:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18519; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:13:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldg1h.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.192.49]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA27580; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:12:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901211812.NAA27580@smtp3.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Russell P Knorr" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 99 10:12:40 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Good Pentium ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:28:31 -0500, Russell P Knorr wrote: >I just bought a 760CD from IBM (refurbished) for $700 it is 90 Pent with MMX >and >MPEG plus a modem 33.6 with A/V in and out plus a 1.6 g hard drive etc.It >runs fineand is well built. That would be nice, but that's too much for me (especially for a P90). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 13:17:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA07333 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:17:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18908; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:16:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:16:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18796; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18757; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:16:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldg1h.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.192.49]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA15696; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:16:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901211816.NAA15696@smtp3.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "peter machule" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 99 10:16:02 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Good Pentium ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: >BTW I got the last New 755Cx on the planet about 3 months ago. >Nice toy all said and done, when you throw out the lame OS2 that it came with. ;-} >The last was gentle tease aimed at Paul . (grin) > Or put on a REAL OS like UNIX. (another gentle tease aimed at the Wintel crowd). Remember, I sent that original post from my SPARC. >Good luck on finding a good 760 at a good price . >Try www.ubid.com the 760E is usually ~ $700 and if your real good at talking to IBM you can >get full warranty on it. .....maybe . Heh heh heh... I'm getting good at talking to them. >They are officially refurbs and only come with a 30-90 day warranty. >www.onsale has gotten more than a little pricey lately with beatup 755C 's going for over $600. > >Try to avoid the 760E "L " version, it literally means Low cost and usually involved some bonheaded costcutting on IBM's part. >The decisions were sometimes amazingly stupid. > ie. No cache to save less than $10. >On the other hand no "M-Wave " is arguably a smart move . (grin) > No MWave? Okay, so it doesn't work well or at all in Win95, WinNT, OS/2 3/4, but I LOVE how it sounds in DOS (though I never use DOS anymore) . >There are way Too many versions of the 760 series and they should have changed part numbers at least once. >The early ones; 760L 760C and the "D" versions thereof, are completely different and MUCH slower than the later "E" and "X" series. >The older ones are not even based on a Pentium chipset and it really shows. But would say it's much better than a ThinkPad 701? >The later use Intel's Mobile Triton which significanltly helps. > >Feel free to ask for more info. >I've played with more than a few of these. ;-} > Planning on selling any? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 13:23:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA07488 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:23:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19335; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:20:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:19:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19129; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:19:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19094; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:19:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldg1h.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.192.49]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA01114; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:18:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901211818.NAA01114@smtp3.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Rob Bell" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 99 10:18:39 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Good Pentium ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:30:21 -0600, Rob Bell wrote: >Actually, you're off on a couple of your specs. The 755 series had a 755Cx >model that was a Pentium. It was a P-75. Also, the 760 series did have a >slower processor than the P-120. One of the models (760? or 760E?) was a >P-90. That was a really ugly looking laptop. IBM tried to change its >appearance by putting a radius on some of the edges and it turned out quite >homely. Certainly different than the square-edged 760EL and 760XL. > Ironically, I usually like the square edged equipment, like the PS/2s, and SPARCs, but don't care much for the new curvy designs... >The 760EL P-120 was quite functional with 40MB running Win95. Or other preferrable OS. That is, as >long as you didn't run a whole bunch of apps at the same time. Even a 755Cs >(486DX2-50) with 20MB functions reasonably well except for that tiny screen. > Well, my 750 is a great machine, but I really need something Pentium class. My office suite (Star Office), and Communicator 4.5 go REALLY slow on the 701, so I figured a faster machine would be better (plus I could actually play some MP3's in my car, too). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 13:25:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA07514 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:25:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19954; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:23:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:21:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19355; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:21:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19311; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:20:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldg1h.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.192.49]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA01112; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:20:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901211820.NAA01112@smtp3.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "h.milz@seneca.muc.de" , "Harald Milz" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 99 10:20:34 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Good Pentium ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: > >The fastest 755 was a 486-100. Actually incorrect. The highest one was a Pentium 75 (which would be so-so for my needs). I'd need at least a P90. 760's should be cheap now. The slowest was >the EL with a P120 w/o 2nd level cache. Worked for me fine for 1.5 yrs. >(Until I got a 770...) > >-- >Accuracy, n.: > The vice of being right -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 13:27:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA07545 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:27:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19623; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:22:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:20:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19204; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:20:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19154; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:19:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldg1h.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.192.49]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA11269; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:19:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901211819.NAA11269@smtp3.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "dmuss@rand.org" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 99 10:19:45 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Good Pentium Thinkpad List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:55:56 -0500, David Mussington wrote: >Hi: > >I own a P100 Thinkpad 760ELD that "flies" with Redhat Linux 5.2. It has the >integrated CD-Rom, and I bought the external kit to allow out-board use of >the floppy. This is a great system, and allows me to experiment with Linux >almost without problems. > >Now if only I could figure out how to compile APM into the Linux kernel.... > I have to admit, APM for Linux is supposed to be good, but I could never get it to work either. For EITHER ThinkPad I had it on (the latest were the 300, then the 750). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 13:29:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA07567 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:29:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20556; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:27:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:23:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19900; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:23:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19807; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:23:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldg1h.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.192.49]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA02594; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:22:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901211822.NAA02594@smtp3.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "David Goldman" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 99 10:22:39 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Problems with IBM and extended warranty List-Unsubscribe: >Does this make sense to anybody else or should I contact another >IBM rep and try to get confirmation of this information? David - Ask to speak to a manager, or call 1-800-IBM-4-YOU and ask to speak to a general manager there. That's rediculous information. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 13:50:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA07890 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:50:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22394; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:46:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22100; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:46:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from send1e.yahoomail.com (send1e.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22076; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:46:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990121184040.12929.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Received: from [134.100.160.112] by send1e; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:40:40 PST Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:40:40 -0800 (PST) From: swjatoslaw gerus Subject: Re: Good Pentium ThinkPad To: Paul Khoury Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Gentleman's If you need to computer for commercial work ,would be better to buy 560x /233 mmx with some 3 years warranty for 1300 $ .It would cheaper per year as computer for 700$ without warranty . Yours Respectfully Gerus ---Paul Khoury wrote: > > > > >The fastest 755 was a 486-100. > > Actually incorrect. The highest one was a Pentium 75 (which would be so-so for my > needs). > I'd need at least a P90. > > > 760's should be cheap now. The slowest was > >the EL with a P120 w/o 2nd level cache. Worked for me fine for 1.5 yrs. > >(Until I got a 770...) > > > >-- > >Accuracy, n.: > > The vice of being right > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html > Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 > ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 13:56:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA07981 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:56:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23526; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:55:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:53:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23209; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:53:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from send105.yahoomail.com (send105.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.128]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23047; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:53:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990121185323.15262.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> Received: from [134.100.160.112] by send105.yahoomail.com; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:53:23 PST Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:53:23 -0800 (PST) From: swjatoslaw gerus Subject: Selected article To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Gentleman's I am very pleased for all of you for lot a different information.But,sorry my interes to thinkpad belong only to follovs fields belov .Is possible to make a filtr for e-mail flow to me ?Excuse me,if my request is not relevant . Yours Respectfully Gerus 1.560x/z and competitor (Gateway 3100,Portege 7010, Micron Gobook2,Panasonic CF-35,71) 2.Professional software (SAP,Solaris,Oracle ,Linux and different another ,which are connected with corporate strategic &financial planning,executive managment information system) and IBM560x/z 3.Satellite broadband ,wirelless broadband communications and IBM560x/z 4.Dealer /Auction rating (CDW,Warehouse,Ubid,Onsale) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 14:23:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA08369 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:23:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25420; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:21:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:18:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25203; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:18:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail01-lax.pilot.net (mail-lax-1.pilot.net [205.139.40.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25173; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:18:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rand.org (unknown-8-173.rand.org [130.154.8.173] (may be forged)) by mail01-lax.pilot.net with ESMTP id LAA11269; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:18:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from dcmail.rand.org (dcmail.rand.org [130.154.32.17]) by mail.rand.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA19757; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:18:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mussington-d (mussington-d.rand.org [130.154.32.178]) by dcmail.rand.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA28497; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:18:33 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "David Mussington" To: "THINKPAD" , "Victor Kress" Subject: RE: Good Pentium Thinkpad Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:16:13 -0500 Message-ID: <000301be4572$82e9c7e0$b2209a82@mussington-d.rand.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199901211808.KAA29283@mail-lax-2.pilot.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi: I agree, the instructions for compiling the kernel in the red hat book (I assume that you are referring to the manual) are quite good. My problem is somewhat different. I have installed Redhat 5.2 onto my Thinkpad 760ELD twice. When I go the /usr/src/linux directory and try to run a make xconfig, I get the following message: make: ***No rule to make target `xconfig'. Stop I am, therefore, stuck. Neither make config or make menufig yield any useful information. Your experience/advice please!? David Mussington > -----Original Message----- > From: Victor Kress [mailto:kress@u.washington.edu] > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 1999 5:09 AM > To: dmuss@rand.org > Subject: Re: Good Pentium Thinkpad > > > The instructions for compiling the kernel in the red hat book are > pretty good. What > specific problems are you having? > > > On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:55:56 -0500, David Mussington wrote: > > >Hi: > > > >I own a P100 Thinkpad 760ELD that "flies" with Redhat Linux 5.2. > It has the > >integrated CD-Rom, and I bought the external kit to allow > out-board use of > >the floppy. This is a great system, and allows me to experiment > with Linux > >almost without problems. > > > >Now if only I could figure out how to compile APM into the Linux > kernel.... > > > >David Mussington > > > >The Truth is Out There. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > Victor Kress > Geological Sciences > Box 351310 > University of Washington > Seattle, Washington > 98195-1310 > > (206)616-8512 > kress@u.washington.edu > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 14:48:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA08730 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:48:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26645; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:42:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:41:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26481; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:41:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail01-lax.pilot.net (mail-lax-1.pilot.net [205.139.40.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26448; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rand.org (unknown-8-173.rand.org [130.154.8.173] (may be forged)) by mail01-lax.pilot.net with ESMTP id LAA16401; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:40:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from dcmail.rand.org (dcmail.rand.org [130.154.32.17]) by mail.rand.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA22148; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:40:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mussington-d (mussington-d.rand.org [130.154.32.178]) by dcmail.rand.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA29492; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:40:28 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "David Mussington" To: "THINKPAD" , "Victor Kress" Subject: RE: Good Pentium Thinkpad Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:38:08 -0500 Message-ID: <000401be4575$92a91fc0$b2209a82@mussington-d.rand.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199901211927.LAA14495@mail-lax-3.pilot.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi There: I used he default workstation install on Red Hat 5.2. Inside the /usr/src/linux directory is an include directory, which has a linux subdirectory within it that has a bunch of files with a ".h" suffix to them. make menuconfig, make config, and make xconfig don't work their either. In the include directory as well are the following subdirectories: scsi net asm-i386 asm-generic asm Perhaps the workstation install doesn't include the sourcecode (something that is not mentioned in the red hat documentation, unfortunately). The joys of the free software movement. David M. > -----Original Message----- > From: Victor Kress [mailto:kress@u.washington.edu] > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 1999 6:27 AM > To: dmuss@rand.org > Subject: RE: Good Pentium Thinkpad > > > I'm kind of new to this game, but I have gotten through it. So > make menuconfig doesn't > work either (ie same error message)? Are you sure you installed > the source files? If > not, go back to the cd in the RPMS directory and do an rpm on the > source file rpm (it > should be obvious). What is in the /usr/src/linux/scripts > subdirectory? This is where all > the makefile scripts are. > > good luck! > > -Victor > > On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:16:13 -0500, David Mussington wrote: > > >Hi: > > > >I agree, the instructions for compiling the kernel in the red hat book (I > >assume that you are referring to the manual) are quite good. My > problem is > >somewhat different. I have installed Redhat 5.2 onto my Thinkpad 760ELD > >twice. When I go the /usr/src/linux directory and try to run a make > >xconfig, I get the following message: > > > >make: ***No rule to make target `xconfig'. Stop > > > >I am, therefore, stuck. Neither make config or make menufig yield any > >useful information. > > > >Your experience/advice please!? > > > >David Mussington > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Victor Kress [mailto:kress@u.washington.edu] > >> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 1999 5:09 AM > >> To: dmuss@rand.org > >> Subject: Re: Good Pentium Thinkpad > >> > >> > >> The instructions for compiling the kernel in the red hat book are > >> pretty good. What > >> specific problems are you having? > >> > >> > >> On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:55:56 -0500, David Mussington wrote: > >> > >> >Hi: > >> > > >> >I own a P100 Thinkpad 760ELD that "flies" with Redhat Linux 5.2. > >> It has the > >> >integrated CD-Rom, and I bought the external kit to allow > >> out-board use of > >> >the floppy. This is a great system, and allows me to experiment > >> with Linux > >> >almost without problems. > >> > > >> >Now if only I could figure out how to compile APM into the Linux > >> kernel.... > >> > > >> >David Mussington > >> > > >> >The Truth is Out There. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> Victor Kress > >> Geological Sciences > >> Box 351310 > >> University of Washington > >> Seattle, Washington > >> 98195-1310 > >> > >> (206)616-8512 > >> kress@u.washington.edu > >> > >> > > > > ________________________________ > Victor Kress > Geological Sciences > Box 351310 > University of Washington > Seattle, Washington > 98195-1310 > > (206)616-8512 > kress@u.washington.edu > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 15:11:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA09114 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:11:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28390; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:09:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:08:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28247; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:08:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (IDENT:kim@fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28230; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA27622 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:08:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:08:00 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Good Pentium ThinkPad In-Reply-To: <199901211820.NAA01112@smtp3.mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Paul Khoury wrote: > > > >The fastest 755 was a 486-100. > > Actually incorrect. The highest one was a Pentium 75 (which would be so-so for my > needs). I'd need at least a P90. It's debatable which is faster, a 486/100 or a P75. The Pentium would definitely be faster in floating point, but in general use, the rule of thumb I learned was that a Pentium was slightly faster than a 486DX4 of the same clock speed. The 486/100 would be benefitting from a 33 MHz bus speed as well (vs. 25 MHz? on the P75). Which is all moot if you're looking for a P90 minimum. :-) -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 15:37:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA09431 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:37:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01298; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:35:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:33:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01126; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:33:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out-0.tiac.net (mail-out-0.tiac.net [199.0.65.247]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01074; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:32:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out-1.tiac.net (mail-out-1.tiac.net [199.0.65.12]) by mail-out-0.tiac.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05557 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:32:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ecottrell@Doble.com) Received: from ntmail.doble.com (ntmail.doble.com [204.215.186.11]) by mail-out-1.tiac.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA14555 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:29:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by ntmail.doble.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BE4551.EAFE3B70@ntmail.doble.com>; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:22:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'THINKPAD'" , "'Victor Kress'" , "'dmuss@rand.org'" Subject: RE: Good Pentium Thinkpad Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:22:54 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, You can only run make when you are in certain directories. The proper directory should be the one with a file named makefile in it. The parameter to the make command indicates what section in the makefile to execute not the make file to run. There should be documentation on compiling the kernel. Also look at the man entry for make by typing the following command man make 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com >---------- >From: David Mussington[SMTP:dmuss@rand.org] >Sent: Thursday, January 21, 1999 2:38 PM >To: THINKPAD; Victor Kress >Subject: RE: Good Pentium Thinkpad > >Hi There: > >I used he default workstation install on Red Hat 5.2. Inside the >/usr/src/linux directory is an include directory, which has a linux >subdirectory within it that has a bunch of files with a ".h" suffix to them. >make menuconfig, make config, and make xconfig don't work their either. > >In the include directory as well are the following subdirectories: > >scsi >net >asm-i386 >asm-generic >asm > >Perhaps the workstation install doesn't include the sourcecode (something >that is not mentioned in the red hat documentation, unfortunately). > >The joys of the free software movement. > >David M. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 15:58:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA09684 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:58:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02773; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:57:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:55:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02556; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:55:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from ariel.jimani.com (IDENT:lorenzo@[207.66.81.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02535; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:55:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (lorenzo@localhost) by ariel.jimani.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA23727; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:55:40 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:55:39 -0700 (MST) From: Lorenzo Pollock To: TP List cc: Randal Whittle Subject: AGP Graphics? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: My guess is that you will need to bite the AGP bullet someday. It is not a scam and will become more important as products and software develop. You can do ok with the PCI cards for now if ok is good enuff. The Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP) is an intel-designed port dedicated to high-end graphic design and blazing video performance. Thes AGP cards are worth the investment because, compared to PCI AGP technology << can >> double the refresh rate when touching up complex photos... the main reason for getting one. But with the trend to create more compelling websites, sites are starting to contain more graphics and special effects, as you know. Naturally the more artistic your site becomes, the longer it takes to create and make changes to the site due to slow screen refresh rates. AGP technology has been around since early 1998 and a new slot for AGP cares ib being included with all new PC's which means that there will be more and more use of software tricks that feed on AGP technology. These cards cost about $100 depending on the resolution you require... often less if you shop around... but I haven't seen them available in a fashion that will upgrade a Thinkpad. For more information on ACP technology, visit www.agpforum.org/faq.htm or www.sysopt.com/agp.html | I recall there was at least one person on this list who said AGP was a | marketing scam (by Intel?) that offered no real advantage over PCI.. Is | that the case? Will I be missing out on anything if I get the PCI | version of this card instead of AGP? | But will I wish I had gotten an AGP card instead? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 22:11:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA13394 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:11:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17940; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:08:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17822; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.its.rpi.edu (root@mail1.its.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17807; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:08:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from k2 (resnet-1875.dynamic.rpi.edu [128.113.183.197]) by mail1.its.rpi.edu (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id WAA117326 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:10:12 -0500 From: "A Kumar" To: Subject: RE: AGP Graphics? Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:08:55 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01be44eb$61a8ac40$c5b77180@k2.dynamic.rpi.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: > -----Original Message----- > From: Lorenzo Pollock [mailto:lorenzo@jimani.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 1999 3:56 PM > To: TP List > Cc: Randal Whittle > Subject: AGP Graphics? > > > My guess is that you will need to bite the AGP bullet someday. > It is not a scam and will become more important as products and > software develop. You can do ok with the PCI cards for now if > ok is good enuff. > > The Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP) is an intel-designed port > dedicated to high-end graphic design and blazing video performance. > Thes AGP cards are worth the investment because, compared to PCI > AGP technology << can >> double the refresh rate when touching up > complex photos... the main reason for getting one. AGP was not designed as a way to double the refresh rate of 2D applications. The main advantage of AGP, today, is that it allows video cards to use your computers RAM. While using RAM is slower than using on board memory it allows higher resolutions, in 3D games, by allowing them to keep more info at hand(Yes this is an overly simplified explanation). That is why most gamers prefer a Nivida TNT(a card which makes use of AGP) over SLIed 3dfx cards, they can run their games at resolutions greater then 800X600. AGP also allows higher bandwidth for the card, but again this is primarily for 3D cards. If 3D did not exists AGP would be unnecessary! 2D cards are so good these days that they are not the limiting factor when talking about image clarity or refresh rate, most cards can reach higher refresh rates then even the most expensive monitor. Also there is no point in having a refresh rate higher then 120 Hz because NO one would see any flicker. IN fact the vast majority I'm talking 99.99% of the population cannot tell a refresh rate higher then 75Hz. So even if the AGP allowed for higher refresh rates(which it doesn't because the PCI bus is not the limiting factor in determining refresh rates on the card its the RAMDAC(sp)). And the refresh rate does not change when typing text as opposed to working on complex photos (assuming you don't change resolution). > But with the trend to create more compelling websites, sites are > starting to contain more graphics and special effects, as you know. > Naturally the more artistic your site becomes, the longer it takes to > create and make changes to the site due to slow screen refresh rates. I don't think you understand what the refresh rate is it the time it takes for the electron beam to redraw the screen(on CRT) it is independent of the program you are running. Do you mean the time it takes to redraw the image in the graphics program? If so a true AGP card would likely be slower then a PCI card because it would me using RAM to store the image. Also 2D graphics DO NOT saturate the PCI. It is 3D that have the potential to, have yet to do that. > AGP technology has been around since early 1998 and a new slot for AGP > cares ib being included with all new PC's which means that there > will be more and more use of software tricks that feed on AGP technology. > These cards cost about $100 depending on the resolution you require... > often less if you shop around... but I haven't seen them available in a > fashion that will upgrade a Thinkpad. Its been around longer but anyway. AGP is independent of software in windows graphics programs never access the card, they go through drivers! And there is no need for tricks, the PCI bus and the AGP are not saturated by 2D graphics!!! You can not upgrade a notebook for AGP without replacing the mother board. And again because notebooks do not have powerful 3D chipsets, there is no need for AGP in them. BTW the 600E with AGP and upgraded graphics chipset did not need an AGP, for the reasons I said above it could easily have been done with a PCI implementation. The usefulness of the AGP can be debated in the 3D card world, but when talking about 2D it provides no benefit (other than not talking up another PCI slot. > For more information on ACP technology, visit > > www.agpforum.org/faq.htm > or > www.sysopt.com/agp.html > Even the URL you gave says: "The result of AGP is a much smoother frame rate and the ability to display ***3D*** graphics and video that is many times more realistic and much a higher quality than ever before found a PC. Though they are obviously biased, Intel makes the claim that, "Now PC users can experience the type of dazzling ***3D*** graphics and video previously found only on workstations costing $20,000 or more!"" > | I recall there was at least one person on this list who said AGP was a > | marketing scam (by Intel?) that offered no real advantage over PCI.. Is > | that the case? Will I be missing out on anything if I get the PCI > | version of this card instead of AGP? > > | But will I wish I had gotten an AGP card instead? > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 22:42:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA13694 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:42:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19307; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:34:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:33:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19208; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:33:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from Hydro.CAM.ORG (Hydro.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19172; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:33:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from cam.org (Dialup-28.HIP.CAM.ORG [205.151.119.29]) by Hydro.CAM.ORG (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id WAA18401 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:33:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36A7F25E.96A8DE61@cam.org> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:37:03 -0500 From: Richard Berdych X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP560: Slow to resume from suspend References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Dear Mr. Talkington, > Rule #1, in response to your concern, is that our control over our Windows > environments is at best an illusion. Control freaks need Unix or a > derivative thereof. =) Having done a bit of Visual C++ programming over the last year or so, I know whereof you speak. From my dealings with MS software internals, I've come to the conclusion that one should either conform or die. As for which option is the preferred one, I'm still on the fence ;-) > I recommend, in your case, starting with BIOS. 560 owners can tell me for > sure, but I'd bet you can set BIOS to not suspend when the panel is closed, > not hibernate on a timer, etc. As long as the LCD turns off when the lid is > closed, that's enough for me, though I do prefer to have the hard drive spin > down after a half hour, to prolong its life. Thanks, but I believe I've got the latest, greatest BIOS already. As for disabling suspend altogether (and just blanking the display and spinning down the hard drive when the lid is closed) I don't see this to be a viable option. Win95 seems to access my hard drive at will, even when I'm not actively using the computer. Your's doesn't do this? > You can also disable Windows power controls via control panel -> power > management. And finally, you can eliminate one more hitch by entering > display settings -> advanced -> monitor, and de-select "Reset display on > suspend/resume". Haven't fiddled with "Allow windows to manage power user on this computer" yet. Thanks for the suggestion. Got the "Reset display on suspend/resume" option turned off. This at least isn't the source of my problems. And, Mr. Kim, > > By the way ... "Mr. Stinky"? > > Some folks like to call their Thinkpads "Stinkpads." Probably > due to latent hostile feelings towards IBM from the 1970s. :-) Let me assure you "Mr. Stinky" is a term of endearment and nothing else. Apart from his apparent unwillingness to resume from a state of suspension, "Stinky" is one fine piece of machinery. If there's any resentment in me at all, it stems from the choice of processor and OS IBM made in 1981 (Motorola rules, and MS bites, still!) Sorry for ranting, folks. Some things just can't be helped ;-) Cheers! Rich berdych@cam.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 21 23:37:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA14197 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:37:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21881; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:36:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:36:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21770; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:35:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21750; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:35:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial5.vramp.net (dial5.vramp.net [209.107.20.20]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA01942 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:35:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901220435.XAA01942@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:35:49 -0500 Subject: Re: Good Pentium ThinkPad Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal References: <199901211820.NAA01112@smtp3.mindspring.com> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 21 Jan 99, at 15:08, John Kim wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Paul Khoury wrote: > > > > > >The fastest 755 was a 486-100. > > > > Actually incorrect. The highest one was a Pentium 75 (which would be > > so-so for my needs). I'd need at least a P90. > > It's debatable which is faster, a 486/100 or a P75. The > Pentium would definitely be faster in floating point, but in > general use, the rule of thumb I learned was that a Pentium > was slightly faster than a 486DX4 of the same clock speed. > The 486/100 would be benefitting from a 33 MHz bus speed as > well (vs. 25 MHz? on the P75). Actually, the debate was won by the 486DX4/100. I have several of each of the 755CD's and, in real world terms, the 486's are faster than the Pentiums. The bus on the Pentiums is listed as 50MHz vs. 33MHz on the 486, but even that doesn't seem to matter (and I don't believe it anyway, as I think it's really 25MHz). Regards, James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. CaptJHEM@waterw.com Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 00:03:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA14431 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:03:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23364; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:03:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:02:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23247; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:02:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from rhino.accessweb.com (rhino.accessweb.com [207.34.119.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23218; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:02:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from bordercity.com (unverified [207.34.111.36]) by rhino.accessweb.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:59:42 -0700 Message-ID: <36A8062B.545F07E5@bordercity.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:01:32 -0700 From: bak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: PCCARD Flash Memory on 760EL Under NT4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I recently obtained a digital camera which uses flash memory for storage. The manual for the unit says that I should be able to simply plug the memory card into my computer. It says nothing about configuring the computer to recognise the cards. Perhaps no configuration is required under the Win95 "plug & play" model, but my WinNT4 laptop stops dead at the blue bootup screen. Does anyone have any experience with this hardware and software combination? Any suggestions? Bruce From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 01:42:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA15325 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:42:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25716; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:41:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:40:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25606; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:40:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25593; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:40:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldg58.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.192.168]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA04010; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:40:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901220640.BAA04010@smtp3.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "swjatoslaw gerus" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 99 22:40:41 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Good Pentium ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:40:40 -0800 (PST), swjatoslaw gerus wrote: >Gentleman's > >If you need to computer for commercial work ,would >be better to buy 560x /233 mmx with some 3 years warranty for 1300 $ >.It would cheaper per year >as computer for 700$ without warranty . Nah, don't need it for commercial use. Even my UNIX boxes aren't commercial. I'm still technically a student, learning about this stuff. I'd like a faster system that isn't as slow at running bigger apps, and also something to do some games and MP3's. A warranty isn't too important, because I'm knowledgable enough to fix most problems (recently took apart my whole SPARCbook, reassembled without any missing screws). Again, 120MHz is good enough... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 01:43:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA15340 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25910; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:43:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:42:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25752; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:42:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25739; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:42:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldg58.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.192.168]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA04447 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:42:37 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:42:37 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <199901220642.BAA04447@smtp3.mindspring.com> Message-Id: <199901220642.BAA04447@smtp3.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" Resent-From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" X-Original-To: "John Kim" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 99 22:42:17 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Good Pentium ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: >It's debatable which is faster, a 486/100 or a P75. The >Pentium would definitely be faster in floating point, but in >general use, the rule of thumb I learned was that a Pentium >was slightly faster than a 486DX4 of the same clock speed. >The 486/100 would be benefitting from a 33 MHz bus speed as >well (vs. 25 MHz? on the P75). > Isn't the P75 50MHz? >Which is all moot if you're looking for a P90 minimum. :-) Yup... A P75 is okay, but when doing MP3's, and large apps, it gets kinda slow. Especially since notebooks tend to be slower overall than desktops... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 01:46:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA15364 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:46:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26331; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:46:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:45:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26243; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:45:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26223; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:45:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldg58.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.192.168]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA02222; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:45:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901220645.BAA02222@smtp3.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "swjatoslaw gerus" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 99 22:45:47 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Selected article List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:53:23 -0800 (PST), swjatoslaw gerus wrote: >Gentleman's > >I am very pleased for all of you for lot a different >information.But,sorry my interes to thinkpad belong >only to follovs fields belov .Is possible to make >a filtr for e-mail flow to me ?Excuse me,if my request is not relevant . I don't think there would be a filter on the listserver's end, but you might see if yahoo.com has a filter you could use. Additionally, we talk about everything related to ThinkPads, but if you're looking for those specific topics, newsgroups are also good for getting more information as well... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 01:49:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA15388 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:49:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26715; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:49:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:48:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26604; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:48:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26518; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:48:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldg58.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.192.168]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA18266; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:48:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901220648.BAA18266@smtp3.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Joshua Hosseinof" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 99 22:48:13 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Problems with IBM and extended warranty List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:23:06 -0500 (EST), Joshua Hosseinof wrote: >You could just tell them when you call for service that your address has >changed since you registered the machine. After all, you know the saying - What IBM doesn't know won't hurt them. And it's true anyways - you've moved, though temporary. I suppose at work I'll find out about our onsite contracts (offered by a third party), and see if they go wherever the machine is, or only a fixed address, because I still don't think IBM's response is quite correct... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 04:37:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA16392 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 04:37:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02509; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 04:37:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 04:36:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02384; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 04:36:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.itm-research.de (root@host-194-174-83-18.seitz.net [194.174.83.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02371; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 04:36:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from itm-research.de (pcamu.itmr.de [192.168.1.8]) by mail.itm-research.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26759 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:36:14 +0100 Message-ID: <36A84686.4471D9AE@itm-research.de> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:36:06 +0100 From: Adnan Mumbasic Organization: ITM Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 06:28:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA16962 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:28:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09954; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:27:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09836; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:27:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com ([208.14.17.29]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09822; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:26:47 -0500 (EST) From: Received: by wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:24:18 -0500 Message-ID: <9872B1801434D21191CF006097BC884E8F1843@wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com> To: bknight@bordercity.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: PCCARD Flash Memory on 760EL Under NT4 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:24:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: While I have no direct experience with the hardware below I had a similar problem with an external scsi CD-ROM. What I had to do was configure the hardware first, set up the drivers, power down, insert the card with drive attached and powered up then boot. HTH > -----Original Message----- > From: bak [SMTP:bknight@bordercity.com] > Sent: Friday, January 22, 1999 12:02 AM > To: ThinkPad Mailing List > Subject: PCCARD Flash Memory on 760EL Under NT4 > > I recently obtained a digital camera which uses flash memory for > storage. The manual for the unit says that I should be able to simply > plug the memory card into my computer. It says nothing about > configuring the computer to recognise the cards. Perhaps no > configuration is required under the Win95 "plug & play" model, but my > WinNT4 laptop stops dead at the blue bootup screen. > > Does anyone have any experience with this hardware and software > combination? Any suggestions? > > Bruce From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 07:45:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA17302 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:45:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11907; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:44:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:43:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11754; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:43:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.polyu.edu.hk (hkpa10.polyu.edu.hk [158.132.14.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11739; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:43:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from Fujitsu ([202.70.24.199]) by smtp1.polyu.edu.hk (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with SMTP id AAABA1 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:39:00 +0800 From: "sk" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: Forget Password Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:43:16 +0800 Message-ID: <000101be4604$c8cacce0$c71846ca@Fujitsu.polyu.edu.hk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <36A8062B.545F07E5@bordercity.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Can anyone tell me I can I reset my TP 600 password since I forget it. SK From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 08:08:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA17407 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:08:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12722; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:08:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:07:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12634; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:07:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (kristina.az.com [204.57.139.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12620; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:07:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp2-sally.atlantica.net (ppp2-sally.atlantica.net [206.63.195.66]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA06091 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 05:07:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <199901221307.FAA06091@www.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Fri, 22 Jan 99 05:15:09 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Forget Password List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:43:16 +0800, sk wrote: >Can anyone tell me I can I reset my TP 600 password since I forget it. Admin or Harddrive? Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 09:26:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA17915 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:26:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16790; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:24:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:23:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16661; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:23:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from flounder.net (qmailr@ariel.flounder.net [160.79.234.226]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16640; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:23:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30905 invoked by uid 1005); 22 Jan 1999 14:23:15 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Jan 1999 14:23:15 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:23:15 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Tebbens X-Sender: matthew@ariel.flounder.net To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: 380z and Linux ? In-Reply-To: <199901221307.FAA06091@www.az.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone installed Linux on a 380z ?? Any problems, suggestions...? Matthew From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 09:36:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA17994 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:36:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18274; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:35:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:34:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18189; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:34:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from passnotes.share.org (passnotes.share.org [192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18169; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:34:21 -0500 (EST) From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 86256701.005055BC ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:37:28 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: "Paul Khoury" cc: "ThinkPad List" , "swjatoslaw gerus" Message-ID: <86256701.004CD346.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:33:47 -0600 Subject: Re: Good Pentium ThinkPad Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: That's fine unless the problem is more than an internally loose or fairly obvious part; until you need to replace a systemboard for $900 or a display panel for about $1100 in parts alone. FUD rules, and ignornce is bliss ;-). I have a consumer-highend JVC VCR that my wife just shocked into oblivion. Internal fuse and connectors are fine and reseated. No obvious smoked or cracked parts anywhere. Initial checks with a DMM on the non-IC power supply parts are fine (caps, resistors, and inductors arent unexpectedly shorted or open; diodes and other <5 lead semiconductors bias correctly). But the thing shows absolutly no sign of life when plugged in. Next step is to purchase a service manual, take it in for service, or just trash it. All this is off track, but the point is, that just because I can take something apart, and put it back, and even knowledgable enough about intermediate circuitboard design and testing (recently fixed a dead microwave magnetron circuit and shorted Sony TV degaussing relay), doesnt mean.... err... aaa... uggh... rats.... I forget my point. You'll have to read between my lines. *sigh* Maybe ignorance better after all. Nevermind ;-) rich >A warranty isn't too important, because I'm knowledgable enough to fix most problems >(recently took apart my whole SPARCbook, reassembled without any missing screws) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 11:21:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA19017 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24291; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:14:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:12:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24141; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (ftp.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24123; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:12:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from peter (142.90.100.78) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V5.1 Vn8g) with SMTP; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:12:22 -1300 From: "peter machule" To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: Good Pentium ThinkPad Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:12:07 -0800 Message-ID: <01be4621$f55b0280$4e645a8e@peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: >> >Planning on selling any? >-- Actually sold one today ( Big Smile ) The "game" is to find deals, usually "B" stock or refurbs and resell them to Grad students . The Canadian market place has NO source for these . Usually I'm very good at finding them....pathetic at selling ;-} If I cover My costs and make a few bucks, I'm happy. I actually don't make any money since it usually includes 24 * 7 tech support ....sigh... 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------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE45F9.69E76C20-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 11:55:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA19448 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:55:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27107; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:52:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:51:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26990; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:51:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (erich.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26975; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:51:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from peter (142.90.100.78) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V5.1 Vn8g) with SMTP; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:51:23 -1300 From: "peter machule" To: "swjatoslaw gerus" CC: Subject: Re: Good Pentium ThinkPad Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:51:09 -0800 Message-ID: <01be4627$6925b3e0$4e645a8e@peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: Where will you use this machine? Which country. Who is buying it ? We would need a LOT more info to help you. Note the 560's only have a ONE year warranty . What computer ..that is the same as a 560 is $700 ? etc... etc.... ..peter.. >Gentleman's > >If you need to computer for commercial work ,would >be better to buy 560x /233 mmx with some 3 years warranty for 1300 $ >.It would cheaper per year >as computer for 700$ without warranty . > >Yours Respectfully Gerus > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 12:04:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA19588 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:04:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27785; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:02:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:01:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27682; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:01:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from UOFA01.TRIUMF.CA (uofa01.Triumf.CA [142.90.114.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27626; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:01:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from peter (142.90.100.78) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V5.1 Vn8g) with SMTP; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:01:14 -1300 From: "peter machule" To: "swjatoslaw gerus" , Subject: Re: Selected article about thinkpads vs other machines Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:01:00 -0800 Message-ID: <01be4628$c9a32120$4e645a8e@peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: I will try to keep it simple ;-} Where will you use this machine? Which country. Who is buying it ? We would need a LOT more info to help you. If you are going to use anything other than Win95 on this laptop , you should use the IBM. LET me repeat this !!! You must use the IBM. IBM only supports 95-98 and NT on a few machines . BUT there are enough users using Linux ,Solaris etc that you will not be the only one. IBM will tell you which chipset , PCMCIA controller , Video controller, etc. is being used so that you can configure a "NON Standard "operating system . Panasonic HAS NO support !!!! not even for the operating system that's on there now .;-{ BTW The 35 is a competitor to the 560 series, the 71 is not. I can't believe how Pathetic Panasonic's support is. Has anyone seen their WEB page ? I have one their machines and the Toy is neat ..BUT !! etc... etc..... Gateway ..only Win95 last time I checked. Toshiba is much better and supports Win95 -98 and NT on a few machines. I don't know if the 7010 is on the NT list. BUT Toshiba's tech support in the USA is terrible. WEB support and driver datebase etc. is good. Especially the Canadian one (grin) Micron...don't know. I have dealt a lot with Ubid and Onsale....what do you want to know ? Same with CDW . ...peter... -----Original Message----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thursday, January 21, 1999 3:55 PM Subject: Selected article >Gentleman's > >I am very pleased for all of you for lot a different >information.But,sorry my interes to thinkpad belong >only to follovs fields belov .Is possible to make >a filtr for e-mail flow to me ?Excuse me,if my request is not relevant . > >Yours Respectfully Gerus >1.560x/z and competitor (Gateway 3100,Portege 7010, >Micron Gobook2,Panasonic CF-35,71) >2.Professional software (SAP,Solaris,Oracle ,Linux and >different another ,which are connected with corporate >strategic &financial planning,executive managment information system) >and IBM560x/z >3.Satellite broadband ,wirelless broadband communications and IBM560x/z >4.Dealer /Auction rating (CDW,Warehouse,Ubid,Onsale) > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 12:22:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA19819 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:22:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29159; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:20:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:19:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29019; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:19:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from netdoor.com (root@netdoor.com [208.137.128.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29002; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:19:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from msstate (port105.stk.netdoor.com [208.137.149.105]) by netdoor.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA03008 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:19:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <007001be462b$49167860$699589d0@tp560e> From: "See-Kit Lam" To: Subject: [tp560] thinkpad can dial after redisafe Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:18:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 List-Unsubscribe: hi all..... my 560e recognizes the modem now after resuming from redisafe...... without re-inserting the modem. i just remove all other cable or serial modems from the device manager in win98. i've only tried this with redisafe not hibernation. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 18:05:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA24772 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:05:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19429; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:02:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:58:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19197; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (root@lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19175; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:57:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from chipie (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id AAA24199 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:59:52 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199901222259.AAA24199@lohi.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:57:44 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Subject: which port replicator for ThinkPad 560x? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.52 List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I have been looking for a sub $1000 TP560 for some time and I just found a refurbished ThinkPad 560X/233Mhz/4GB/32MB/12.1"TFT at PC Connection (http://www.pcconnection.com/scripts/productdetail.asp?product_id=70957) for $999. I believe it's a pretty good deal. If anyone knows of better bargains elsewhere, please let me know! I'm not sure what port replicator to take for this machine. PC Connection offers either a standard port replicator for $99 (www.pcconnection.com/scripts/productdetail.asp?product_id=75744, I believe the photo included on that page doesn't depict the right product) or an enhanced port replicator for $170 (www.pcconnection.com/scripts/productdetail.asp?product_id=78113). The enhanced port replicator looks more like a docking station to me and it features a built-in Ethernet connection. What is puzzling me is that on IBM pages, I could find an EtherJet port replicator (option 05K4872) that would appear to match the PC Connection enhanced port replicator. However, the IBM site states it is compatible only with the 560z. I would appreciate comments from TP560x owners about whichever port replicator they're using with their machines. Does anyone know where I could find complete specs of all TP560's and their accessories? http://www.pcco.ibm.com/us/thinkpad/index.html only lists currently produced models. Thanks, Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 18:17:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA24918 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:17:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20199; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:16:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:16:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20118; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20102; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:15:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic30.fbtc.net [204.2.11.30]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA29054; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:15:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <012c01be465c$9b03b6c0$1e0b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "Cottrell, Eric" , "'THINKPAD'" , "'Victor Kress'" , Subject: Re: Good Pentium Thinkpad Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:11:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I thought the unix/linux make had default params that worked for simple situations where there is no makefile. Barry -----Original Message----- From: Cottrell, Eric To: 'THINKPAD' ; 'Victor Kress' ; 'dmuss@rand.org' Date: Thursday, January 21, 1999 2:22 PM Subject: RE: Good Pentium Thinkpad >Hello, > >You can only run make when you are in certain directories. The proper >directory should be the one with a file named makefile in it. The >parameter to the make command indicates what section in the >makefile to execute not the make file to run. > >There should be documentation on compiling the kernel. Also >look at the man entry for make by typing the following command > >man make From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 18:34:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA25077 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:34:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21188; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:33:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:33:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21090; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:33:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.idecnet.com (root@mail.idecnet.com [194.179.48.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21070; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:32:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from idecnet.idecnet.com (mengibar.dyn.idec.net [195.53.121.117]) by mail.idecnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA18918 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:32:51 GMT Message-ID: <024101be465d$d2ab5820$757935c3@idecnet.idecnet.com> From: "fran mengibar" To: Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:20:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_023E_01BE4666.33971360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_023E_01BE4666.33971360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe ------=_NextPart_000_023E_01BE4666.33971360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_023E_01BE4666.33971360-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 22 23:39:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA27945 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:39:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28471; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:39:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:38:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28363; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28350; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:38:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.61.140]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990123043733.DQAN10733@dts-jl> for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 04:37:33 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990122233643.00b203a0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:36:43 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: which port replicator for ThinkPad 560x? In-Reply-To: <199901222259.AAA24199@lohi.clinet.fi> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:57 AM 1/23/99 +0200, Dominique Pivard wrote: >I would appreciate comments from TP560x owners about whichever port >replicator they're using with their machines. Does anyone know where I >could find complete specs of all TP560's and their accessories? >http://www.pcco.ibm.com/us/thinkpad/index.html only lists currently >produced models. > Gotta be persistent and gotta have the part number of the system you're working with: http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/SeriesLookup2/ThinkPad+560?OpenDocument From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 23 00:41:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA28569 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:41:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00536; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:38:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:37:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00455; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:37:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [207.211.168.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00439; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:37:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from wabio (user-38ld20d.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.136.13]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA12853 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:36:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990123003338.00a6cc70@mail.newsguy.com> X-Sender: wicket@mail.newsguy.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:35:36 -0500 To: From: Alan Wong Subject: FS: 32mb SO-DIMM SDRAM In-Reply-To: <199901140355.WAA28216@CS.UTK.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I have forsale a brand new IBM TP Options 32 mb SDRAM SODIMM memory module forsale. It will fit the following systems ThinkPad 390, ThinkPad 600, ThinkPad 770, ThinkPad i Series Pricing is @ $50 plus shipping. If you're interested, please feel free to drop a note. Thanks, Alan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 23 07:18:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA01120 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 07:18:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA14136; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 07:18:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 23 Jan 1999 07:16:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA14000; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 07:16:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (root@lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA13987; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 07:16:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from chipie (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA13902 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:18:30 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199901231218.OAA13902@lohi.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:16:15 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990122233643.00b203a0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: which port replicator for ThinkPad 560x? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.52 List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 at 11:36 PM you, Jane Loyless , said: >Gotta be persistent and gotta have the part number of the system you're >working with: This is fine if you already own a ThinkPad and know what its part number is. As a prospective buyer, I don't know it (the PC Connection page only mentions it's a TP560X / P233MMX / 32 MB / 4.0 GB / 12.1 TFT / Win95). >http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/SeriesLookup2/ThinkPad+560?OpenDocument The above page only lists abstruse numbers (17 of them!) like 264010U. In order to convert the part numbers into something meaningful (and get the complete specs), I had to use URLs similar to: http://www.pc.ibm.com/support?page=2640-10U&country=USA For those interested, I compiled the vital data for each of the 17 TP560's listed: 264010U = TP560 / 133 / 8 MB / 2.1 GB / 11.3 DSTN / Win95 264020U = TP560 / 133 / 8 MB / 2.1 GB / 12.1 TFT / Win95 264030U = TP560E / 150MMX / 16 MB / 2.1 GB / 11.3 DSTN / Win95 264040U = TP560E / 166MMX / 16 MB / 2.1 GB / 12.1 TFT / wIN95 264050A = TP560 / 100 / 8 MB / 810 MB / 11.3 DSTN / Win95 264050C = TP560 / 100 / 8 MB / 810 MB / 11.3 DSTN / no preload 264060U = TP560X / 200MMX / 32 MB / 2.1 GB / 12.1 HPA / Win95 264070U = TP560X / 233MMX / 32 MB / 4.0 GB / 12.1 TFT / Win95 264090U = TP560Z / 233PII / 32 MB / 4.0 GB / 12.1 TFT / Win98 264091U = TP560Z / 233PII / 32 MB / 4.0 GB / 12.1 TFT / WinNT 2640B0U = TP560Z / 300PII / 64 MB / 6.4 GB / 12.1 TFT / Win98 2640B1U = TP560Z / 300PII / 64 MB / 6.4 GB / 12.1 TFT / WinNT 2640E0A = TP560 / 120 / 8 MB / 810 MB / 12.1 TFT / Win95 2640E0C = TP560 / 120 / 8 MB / 810 MB / 12.1 TFT / no preload 2640F0D = TP560 / 133 / 8 MB / 1.08 GB / 12.1 TFT / OS/2 2640F0E = TP560 / 133 / 8 MB / 1.08 GB / 12.1 TFT / Win95 2640F0G = TP560 / 133 / 8 MB / 1.08 GB / 12.1 TFT / no preload So it appears I'm looking at a 264070U. The docking solutions available for that machine are: 11J8997 ENHANCED PORT REPLICATOR 46H4209 PORT REPLICATOR And the corresponding URLs are: http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/$wwwPartNumLookup/_11J8997 http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/$wwwPartNumLookup/_46H4209 It seems the TP560X enhanced port replicator (11J8997) has no built-in Ethernet port, contrary to what PC Connection advertises. The enhanced port replicator advertised for the TP560X by PC Connection seems to be: 05K4872 ETHERJET PORT REPLICATOR http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/$wwwPartNumLookup/_05K4872 which requires a 560Z (or a 380Z / 390 / i1720 / i1721) and assumably wouldn't work with a 560X. I'd still be interested to hear comments from TP560X owners about their port replicator, whether enhanced or plain vanilla ;-) Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 23 09:21:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA01746 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:21:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16035; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:21:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:20:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15908; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:20:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (imo25.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15895; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:20:32 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from DietrichWT@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id VKDRa15297 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:19:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <7cbdc9fc.36a9da72@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:19:30 EST To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: unsubscribe Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.i for Windows 95 sub 65 List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 23 09:35:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA01856 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:35:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16520; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:35:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:34:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16396; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:34:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com (camel8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16383; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:34:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl (user-38h1uv3.dialup.mindspring.com [209.16.251.227]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA32140 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:34:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990123093347.00bc4d70@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:33:47 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: which port replicator for ThinkPad 560x? In-Reply-To: <199901231218.OAA13902@lohi.clinet.fi> References: <3.0.1.32.19990122233643.00b203a0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 02:16 PM 1/23/99 +0200, Dominique Pivard wrote: >On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 at 11:36 PM you, Jane Loyless , >said: > >>Gotta be persistent and gotta have the part number of the system you're >>working with: > >This is fine if you already own a ThinkPad and know what its part number >is. As a prospective buyer, I don't know it (the PC Connection page only >mentions it's a TP560X / P233MMX / 32 MB / 4.0 GB / 12.1 TFT / Win95). > >>http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/SeriesLookup2/ThinkPad+560?OpenDocu ment > >The above page only lists abstruse numbers (17 of them!) like 264010U. In >order to convert the part numbers into something meaningful (and get the >complete specs), I had to use URLs similar to: > Did you want me to hand all that info to you on a silver platter? I gave you a starting point so that you could do the work. And even though you didn't say thank you, you're welcome. Jane From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 23 12:35:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA03341 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:35:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21046; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:35:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:34:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20907; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:34:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from opus.liveworld.com (opus.liveworld.com [205.216.163.172]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20894; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:33:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14896 invoked from network); 23 Jan 1999 09:33:53 PST Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jan 1999 09:33:53 PST Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:33:53 -0800 (PST) From: Valerie Delane X-Sender: valerie@opus.liveworld.com To: Dominique Pivard cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: which port replicator for ThinkPad 560x? In-Reply-To: <199901231218.OAA13902@lohi.clinet.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Dominique Pivard = domi domi> So it appears I'm looking at a 264070U. The docking solutions domi> available for that machine are: domi> domi> 11J8997 ENHANCED PORT REPLICATOR domi> 46H4209 PORT REPLICATOR domi> ... domi> It seems the TP560X enhanced port replicator (11J8997) has no domi> built-in Ethernet port, contrary to what PC Connection domi> advertises. domi> ... domi> I'd still be interested to hear comments from TP560X owners domi> about their port replicator, whether enhanced or plain vanilla i purchased the enhanced port replicator (part # 11J8997) to go with my 560x (part # 264070u). it definitely does not have a built-in ethernet port; you have to employ a pcmcia nic. i was not happy with how the dock worked out for several reasons: 1 under windoze (nt or 95) the notebook refused to suspend while plugged into the replicator (dock), and it hung (requiring a hard reboot) if i unplugged it from the dock while on. i.e., i had to shut it down entirely to get it off the dock, which prevented quick shuttles into, say, a conference room, without having to wait for a full shutdown/reboot sequence. on the other hand, if i leave the pcmcia nic in the pcmcia slot of the notebook, i can tell the software pcmcia manager to virtually "eject" the cards, then suspend. mayhaps this can be solved it the card manager can be configured to recognize cards in the dock--but i could never figure this out on windoze or linux. 2 on a related note, if, in my impatience, i unplugged the power cord >from the dock before the laptop completely shut down, it hung, requiring a hard reboot. no matter how many times this bit me, i kept forgetting, because it seemed so lame, and was not a problem without the intervening dock. 3 once i had more than one ethernet to connect to, i had to remember to take the pcmcia nic from the dock so i could use it in the laptop on the other network. or buy another nic. in summary: i can imagine where the dock might be useful under certain circumstances, but beware of power and card management issues. best regards, --v (otherwise extremely happy with my 560x, especially running linux) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 23 13:13:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA03637 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:13:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22021; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:12:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:11:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21940; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:11:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21926; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:11:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from leland.stanford.edu (Banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.64.168.119]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8/L) with ESMTP id KAA15150 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:11:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36AA1118.2673F7E1@leland.stanford.edu> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:12:40 -0800 From: Benjamin Koh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: which port replicator for ThinkPad 560x? References: <199901231218.OAA13902@lohi.clinet.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a 560X (264070U), the exact one you're looking to buy. I don't own a port replicator, but sometime ago I was also poking around for one, and the specs I found lead me to believe the "enhanced" bit of the 11J8997 port replicator refer to the fact that it adds 2 PC Card slots in addition to the usual array of ports. 46H4209 only provides the usual mouse, keyboard, serial and parallel ports, but it's a lot thinner and smaller (and cheaper). It's just a small bar not much bigger than a hole punch. Do a search on shopper.com for "IBM port replicator". 46H4209 goes for $139, 11J8997 for $233. Are the 2 slots worth $94? You decide. FWIW, Extended Systems sells third party replicators compatible with the 560X. Their "enhanced" version does include 10Mbs Ethernet. However no additional PC Card Slots are offered. They are a lot cheaper than IBM's, unfortunately they are large (the size of the 560X itself) and heavy... and butt-ugly. Even the non-enhanced version is the size of the 560X :-( You can find both IBM and Extended replicators on eBay. Make sure you get the #FRU from the seller for IBM units - not everyone includes accurate pictures! Good luck Benjamin > > So it appears I'm looking at a 264070U. The docking solutions available > for that machine are: > > 11J8997 ENHANCED PORT REPLICATOR > 46H4209 PORT REPLICATOR > > And the corresponding URLs are: > > http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/$wwwPartNumLookup/_11J8997 > http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/$wwwPartNumLookup/_46H4209 > > It seems the TP560X enhanced port replicator (11J8997) has no built-in > Ethernet port, contrary to what PC Connection advertises. > > The enhanced port replicator advertised for the TP560X by PC Connection > seems to be: > > 05K4872 ETHERJET PORT REPLICATOR > http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/$wwwPartNumLookup/_05K4872 > > which requires a 560Z (or a 380Z / 390 / i1720 / i1721) and assumably > wouldn't work with a 560X. > > I'd still be interested to hear comments from TP560X owners about their > port replicator, whether enhanced or plain vanilla ;-) > > Dominique > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Dominique Pivard > Helsinki, Finland > ----------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 23 14:35:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04365 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:35:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24171; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:31:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23817; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:31:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (root@lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23779; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:31:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from chipie (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA10150 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:33:42 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199901231933.VAA10150@lohi.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:24:00 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: which port replicator for ThinkPad 560x? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.52 List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 at 09:33 AM you, Valerie Delane , said: >i purchased the enhanced port replicator (part # 11J8997) to go with my >560x (part # 264070u). it definitely does not have a built-in ethernet >port; you have to employ a pcmcia nic. i was not happy with how the dock >worked out for several reasons: Thanks Valerie for sharing your real life experience, this is exactly the kind of information I was looking for! >(otherwise extremely happy with my 560x, especially running linux) This is most interesting! I did bookmark the 560x Linux page you kindly compiled. I thought it was necessary to use expensive commercial software in order to run X with the Neomagic chips. Have they changed their policy and disclosed their specs to the XFREE people? Dominique From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 23 14:35:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04371 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:35:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24163; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:33:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:31:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23814; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:31:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (root@lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23777; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:31:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from chipie (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA10146 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:33:41 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199901231933.VAA10146@lohi.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:31:16 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <36AA1118.2673F7E1@leland.stanford.edu> Subject: Re: which port replicator for ThinkPad 560x? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.52 List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 at 10:12 AM you, Benjamin Koh , said: >I have a 560X (264070U), the exact one you're looking to buy. I don't own >a port replicator, but sometime ago I was also poking around for one, and >the specs I found lead me to believe the "enhanced" bit of the 11J8997 >port replicator refer to the fact that it adds 2 PC Card slots in >addition to the usual array of ports. 46H4209 only provides the usual >mouse, keyboard, serial and parallel ports, but it's a lot thinner and >smaller (and cheaper). It's just a small bar not much bigger than a hole >punch. Do a search on shopper.com for "IBM port replicator". 46H4209 goes >for $139, 11J8997 for $233. Are the 2 slots worth $94? You decide. I think I'll go for the 46H4209, which must be very similar to the port replicator I'm currently using on my TP701 and is perfect for my needs. >FWIW, Extended Systems sells third party replicators compatible with the >560X. Their "enhanced" version does include 10Mbs Ethernet. However no >additional PC Card Slots are offered. They are a lot cheaper than IBM's, >unfortunately they are large (the size of the 560X itself) and heavy... >and butt-ugly. Even the non-enhanced version is the size of the 560X :-( Thanks, Ben, for mentioning about the existence of third party replicators, which I wasn't aware of. I'll make sure to check with PC Connection which replicators they are offering, the original IBM ones or the copy cats. Dominique From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 23 14:35:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04376 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:35:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24160; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:33:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:31:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23848; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:31:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (root@lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23780; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:31:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from chipie (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA10153 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:33:43 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199901231933.VAA10153@lohi.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:11:42 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990123093347.00bc4d70@pop.mindspring.com> Subject: Re: which port replicator for ThinkPad 560x? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.52 List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 at 09:33 AM you, Jane Loyless , said: >Did you want me to hand all that info to you on a silver platter? I gave >you a starting point so that you could do the work. No, I didn't expect that. As a matter of fact, I had already found the URL you kindly gave me. >And even though you didn't say thank you, you're welcome. This is perhaps I didn't bother to thank you. Sorry about that, and thank you ;-) My point was that Big Blue could make searching through the maze of their products a bit easier. The data exists, no question about it, but access to it ought to be a bit more user-friendly. Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 23 15:41:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA04873 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:41:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27275; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:41:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:40:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27162; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:40:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de [160.45.2.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27142; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:39:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from komma.fddi2.fu-berlin.de (160.45.2.6) with smtp id ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:39:57 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:39:56 +0100 (MET) From: Christoph Eyrich X-Sender: eyrich@komma.fddi2.fu-berlin.de To: Dominique Pivard cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: which port replicator for ThinkPad 560x? In-Reply-To: <199901231933.VAA10150@lohi.clinet.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Dominique Pivard wrote: > >(otherwise extremely happy with my 560x, especially running linux) > > This is most interesting! I did bookmark the 560x Linux page you kindly > compiled. I thought it was necessary to use expensive commercial software > in order to run X with the Neomagic chips. Have they changed their policy > and disclosed their specs to the XFREE people? Yes, they have, at least slightly :-) [now I think it does make sense indeed to keep complaining if a company refuses to `support' free software by simply providing technical specs ...] You might have a look at . Ther are a few more pages but I don't have the URL's at hand. Regards Christoph Eyrich -- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 23 15:44:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA04902 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:44:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27619; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:44:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27538; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:43:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27434; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:42:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-114-163.bellatlantic.net [151.198.114.163]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA16751 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:44:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36AA33C4.EDFC554C@bellatlantic.net> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:40:36 -0500 From: Mike Reply-To: mmonte@bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: Video Out from 560E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Dear Group, I have a TP 560E. Is there a way to set it up to run Power Point presentations from it directly onto a TV. Thanks for any help. Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 23 15:52:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA04956 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:52:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28225; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:52:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:51:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28119; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28097; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:51:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldhe6.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.197.198]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA32187 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:51:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901232051.PAA32187@smtp3.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 23 Jan 99 12:51:29 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ThinkPad 300 net worth? List-Unsubscribe: If any of you were selling a ThinkPad 300 with 2 batteries, 170MB HD, 12MB of RAM, and AC adapter, would $225 seem reasonable (to list on eBay)? Following my recent question of a Pentium ThinkPad, I'll think I'll chance it and sell these unused machines. Also, what would I possibly get for my 701? It has NT loaded. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 23 16:31:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05294 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:31:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29426; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:30:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:30:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29310; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:30:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (ne.mediaone.net [24.128.1.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29294; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:30:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from dpen6300 (jthome.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.30.79]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA25576; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:29:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003001be4717$80330600$4f1e8018@dpen6300.ne.mediaone.net> From: "Jonathan Teich" To: "Dominique Pivard" , Subject: Re: which port replicator for ThinkPad 560x? Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:29:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I am using the PC Connection enhanced port replicator #78113 (it's made by Extended Systems) with my 233MHz 560X, and it works just fine. The network connection is a real joy. Go for it. I haven't got the PC recognizing the different hardware profile when it's docked or undocked, but I haven't bothered to deal with it. I just suspend before I attach or detach it from the replicator, and I reboot after attaching it (so it re-attaches the network drives). Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: Dominique Pivard To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Friday, January 22, 1999 5:57 PM Subject: which port replicator for ThinkPad 560x? > >I'm not sure what port replicator to take for this machine. PC Connection >offers either a standard port replicator for $99 >(www.pcconnection.com/scripts/productdetail.asp?product_id=75744, I >believe the photo included on that page doesn't depict the right product) >or an enhanced port replicator for $170 >(www.pcconnection.com/scripts/productdetail.asp?product_id=78113). The >enhanced port replicator looks more like a docking station to me and it >features a built-in Ethernet connection. > >I would appreciate comments from TP560x owners about whichever port >replicator they're using with their machines. Does anyone know where I >could find complete specs of all TP560's and their accessories? >http://www.pcco.ibm.com/us/thinkpad/index.html only lists currently >produced models. > >Thanks, > >Dominique >-- > ---------------------------------------------------------- >Dominique Pivard >Helsinki, Finland > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 23 17:07:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA05626 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:07:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00740; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:06:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:05:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00616; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:05:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from out4.ibm.net (out4.ibm.net [165.87.194.239]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00598; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:05:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from sdwntsrv (slip129-37-165-139.pq.ca.ibm.net [129.37.165.139]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA29794; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:05:21 GMT Message-ID: <001e01be471c$a9339920$8ba52581@sdwntsrv> From: "Philippe Hamelin" To: "ThinkPad" Subject: Subscribe Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:03:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01BE46F2.C05D9120" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BE46F2.C05D9120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subscribe ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BE46F2.C05D9120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BE46F2.C05D9120-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 23 20:45:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA07348 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:45:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05045; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:41:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04661; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:41:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (mail.islandnet.com [199.175.106.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04647; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:41:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from 139-142-112-189.islandnet.com [139.142.112.189] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m104EYE-000KusC for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:41:22 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) Newsgroups: list.thinkpad To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701 Hard drives Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:33:50 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: <+hnq24miptFJ092yn@islandnet.com> Lines: 19 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: I have two questions about 701 hard drives, which are of the slim or 12 mm or 12.5 mm variety. 1. If I put a 6.4 GM IBM Travelstar 12 mm drive in my thinkpad, will I need a BIOS upgrade? I know that they require a special "caddy", and a TORX screwdriver, but fortunately I have both. 2. I would also like to get a 2.5" - to - IDE adaptor so that I can, say, backup my 701 drive on a desktop machine. Can I just buy one of the standard adaptors, or will I need something special? Will it mean I have to take the drive out of its caddy? -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 23 21:31:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA07593 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:31:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12538; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:30:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:30:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12359; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:29:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from opus.liveworld.com (opus.liveworld.com [205.216.163.172]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12337; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:29:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17849 invoked from network); 23 Jan 1999 18:29:46 PST Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jan 1999 18:29:46 PST Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 18:29:46 -0800 (PST) From: Valerie Delane X-Sender: valerie@opus.liveworld.com To: Christoph Eyrich , domi@kenavo.fi cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: which port replicator for ThinkPad 560x? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: eyrich = Christoph Eyrich domi = Dominique Pivard domi> I thought it was necessary to use expensive commercial software domi> in order to run X with the Neomagic chips. Have they changed domi> their policy and disclosed their specs to the XFREE people? eyrich> Yes, they have, at least slightly :-) ... You might have a eyrich> look at . Ther are eyrich> a few more pages but I don't have the URL's at hand. jeff storer has created an _un_accelerated driver. see . i guess neomagic has not released enough data for anyone to take advantage of the improved hardware in their chipset without their proprietary software. i find it plenty quick for my own work, but admittedly have not tried anything really taxing like retouching large photo images. best regards, --v From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 24 11:34:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA12956 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:34:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07469; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:33:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:32:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07370; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:31:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.polyu.edu.hk (hkpa10.polyu.edu.hk [158.132.14.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07356; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:31:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from Fujitsu ([202.70.18.51]) by smtp1.polyu.edu.hk (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with SMTP id AAA6DCD for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:26:57 +0800 From: "sk" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:31:10 +0800 Message-ID: <000801be47b6$f3d07ee0$331246ca@Fujitsu.polyu.edu.hk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 24 12:13:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA13240 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:13:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08333; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:13:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:12:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08232; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:12:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from astor.interport.net (astor.interport.net [199.184.165.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08219; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pritzr (209-122-226-215.s469.tnt1.nyw.erols.com [209.122.226.215]) by astor.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA15836 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:13:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990124121047.0093fca0@pop.interport.net> X-Sender: rpritz@pop.interport.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:12:53 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: richard Subject: modems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Anyone have any experience with the Viking PC Card modem? The model with the StarTac cable seems very attractively priced (~$130). Or should I stick with the 3Com cellular modem (~$180 + cable)? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 24 15:56:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA14894 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:56:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15328; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:54:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:52:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15189; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:52:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from cedar.netten.net (root@cedar.netten.net [205.244.191.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15175; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:52:45 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from default (net1-46.netten.net [206.229.193.46]) by cedar.netten.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA04532; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:52:41 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990124145201.009cd154@netten.net> X-Sender: shelby@netten.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:52:01 -0600 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Mwave Modem Cc: jbaird@netten.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I have a 760ED IBM laptop and recently when I turned it on recd this message: Mwave Modem MWME0001: Mwave Modem Internal Error Primary Code 4 (Ox0004) Secondary Code: 0 (0x0000) File MWMPARSE: C Line 1817 OK The software seems to be loading ok, an "initializing" screen comes up with these initials: MR DTR SD RD OH CD AA HS with a black square under each set of initials. All the files were then copied from Trakker and I still received the same message. Has anyone out there had a similar experience? Any ideas what could be wrong or more importantly how it can be fixed? Thank you for your help, Larose Wynne shelby@netten From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 24 19:55:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA16697 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 19:55:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21927; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 19:54:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 24 Jan 1999 19:52:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21804; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 19:52:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.bctel.ca (mail1.bctel.ca [207.194.28.67]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21776; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 19:52:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from defiant (00-00-86-1d-bf-b1.bconnected.net [209.53.10.22]) by mail1.bctel.ca with SMTP id QAA03929; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 16:41:15 -0800 (PST) From: "Ryan Hung" To: "Cottrell, Eric" , "'THINKPAD'" , "'Victor Kress'" , Subject: RE: Good Pentium Thinkpad Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 16:41:10 -0800 Message-ID: <000a01be47fb$67038580$160a35d1@defiant.bconnected.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Sorry, this comes a bit late, and may be superfluous if you've alrady figured it out. However, browsing through the rest of the list to the present, I don't see any indication of that, so I'll offer my 2 cents. Redhat doesn't come with the full kernel source code by default. It only comes with the bare necessary include files from the kernel source code to actually get your system going. Hence, you'll have to download the kernel source code from www.kernel.org and untar it into /usr/local/linux in order to be able to compile the kernel. Ryan. > -----Original Message----- > From: Cottrell, Eric [mailto:ecottrell@Doble.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 1999 12:23 PM > To: 'THINKPAD'; 'Victor Kress'; 'dmuss@rand.org' > Subject: RE: Good Pentium Thinkpad > > > Hello, > > You can only run make when you are in certain directories. The proper > directory should be the one with a file named makefile in it. The > parameter to the make command indicates what section in the > makefile to execute not the make file to run. > > There should be documentation on compiling the kernel. Also > look at the man entry for make by typing the following command > > man make > > > 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com > > >---------- > >From: David Mussington[SMTP:dmuss@rand.org] > >Sent: Thursday, January 21, 1999 2:38 PM > >To: THINKPAD; Victor Kress > >Subject: RE: Good Pentium Thinkpad > > > >Hi There: > > > >I used he default workstation install on Red Hat 5.2. Inside the > >/usr/src/linux directory is an include directory, which has a linux > >subdirectory within it that has a bunch of files with a ".h" > suffix to them. > >make menuconfig, make config, and make xconfig don't work their either. > > > >In the include directory as well are the following subdirectories: > > > >scsi > >net > >asm-i386 > >asm-generic > >asm > > > >Perhaps the workstation install doesn't include the sourcecode (something > >that is not mentioned in the red hat documentation, unfortunately). > > > >The joys of the free software movement. > > > >David M. > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 24 22:22:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA18225 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:22:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25860; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:21:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:19:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25706; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:19:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25691; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:19:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from dante39.u.washington.edu (williams@dante39.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.199]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id TAA35930 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 19:18:58 -0800 Received: from localhost (williams@localhost) by dante39.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id TAA42680 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 19:18:57 -0800 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 19:18:57 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Williams" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 770ed Modem / Ethernet Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I just got my new 770ed and like everyone else, find the modem to connect only at 31kps or slower. I haven't upgraded the modem yet to V.90. Do I need to upgrade it twice? Once for x2 and once for V.90? I have 2.35 build 27. Also, I would like to get an Ethernet card. Will the 770ED support Cardbus Ethernet? Is there any advantage to getting one? What brands are recommended? What about ISDN support? Finally, is better to get an integrated modem/ethernet card and not use the internal modem? (Can I use midi and the internal modem at the same time?) Thanks, John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 25 01:26:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA19862 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 01:26:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01261; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 01:25:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 25 Jan 1999 01:25:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01168; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 01:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01148; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 01:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from atreyu (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id AAA19293; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:24:52 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990125002438.00866a00@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:24:38 -0600 To: "J. Williams" From: Ron Heiby Subject: Re: 770ed Modem / Ethernet Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 07:18 PM 1/24/99 -0800, J. Williams wrote: >Finally, is better to get an integrated modem/ethernet card and not use >the internal modem? (Can I use midi and the internal modem at the same >time?) I went this route. First, I tried the 3Com Megahertz V.90/10Mbps with XJack for the modem. (I tend to like the XJack technology.) But something puts some nasty 60 Hz hum on my phone line with I have both modems and the phone all connected together, and this modem seemed to have problems getting higher throughput in these conditions. Also, it claimed that the "analog" ports coming out of my 3Com OfficeConnect ISDN Lan Modem [sic] were "Digital", and refused to use them. Then, I traded that in (30 day return) for the 3Com Megahertz 10/100 LAN+56K Modem model 3CCFEM556B. It comes with two dongles, one for modem (V.90 and x2) and the other for 10BaseT or 100BaseTX connection. It successfully auto-negotiates the 10 Mbps speed my home office currently uses. I'll be taking it to my partner's home office and trying it on his 100 Mbps network in the near future. This guy is happy to dial or accept incoming calls on the OfficeConnect "analog" ports. Also, it seems to do a better job of rejecting the 60 Hz hum, as I've seen it report higher connect speeds. WinFax Pro 8.0.3 works with it fine, sending or receiving Faxes. I have not tried getting it to work with TalkWorks. Kermit-95 also (naturally!) talks to / through it just fine. Although the "ThinkPad Digital Signal Processor" is disabled in Device Manager, I am still able to play various audio file formats. As far as I can tell, it is not required for anything but modem use. But, it is possible that it's used somehow for video capture or something like that, which I have not yet tried. If someone knows for sure, I'd appreciate the info. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: My Keys: 0x571B55BD and 0x628ECED2 available from keyservers iQA+AwUBNqwOHmasl5Jijs7SEQI8pwCdFSCogd02LOd9YhtW5hDGP1K00usAmJPy TLaPVBU0HtYv39iSuwzmecE= =vv0C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 25 02:32:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA20507 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 02:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03758; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 02:32:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 25 Jan 1999 02:30:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03568; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 02:30:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03555; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 02:30:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mindspring.com (user-38ldgve.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.195.238]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26454 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 02:30:16 -0500 (EST) Sender: root@smtp3.mindspring.com Message-ID: <36AC1D89.EEE61D1B@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:30:17 -0800 From: Paul Khoury X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4c) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ThinkPad 701CS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Just to let anyone know who's interested, I've got my NT ThinkPad listed on eBay at: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=60267332 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 25 02:37:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA20537 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 02:37:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04090; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 02:37:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 25 Jan 1999 02:37:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04009; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 02:37:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03996; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 02:37:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldgve.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.195.238]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA02809 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 02:36:59 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 02:36:59 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <199901250736.CAA02809@smtp3.mindspring.com> Message-Id: <199901250736.CAA02809@smtp3.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" Resent-From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" X-Original-To: "Jonathan Berry" Date: Sun, 24 Jan 99 23:36:47 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701 Hard drives List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:33:50 -0800, Jonathan Berry wrote: >I have two questions about 701 hard drives, which are of the >slim or 12 mm or 12.5 mm variety. > >1. If I put a 6.4 GM IBM Travelstar 12 mm drive in my thinkpad, >will I need a BIOS upgrade? I know that they require a special >"caddy", and a TORX screwdriver, but fortunately I have both. > I doubt it. I upgraded to the LATEST release (if you're at the most current, then you don't need the upgrade) on both the 701 and the 750. The 701 works great with 1.4GB, the 750 has 2.1GB (it's the file server). >2. I would also like to get a 2.5" - to - IDE adaptor so that I >can, say, backup my 701 drive on a desktop machine. Can I just >buy one of the standard adaptors, or will I need something >special? Will it mean I have to take the drive out of its >caddy? > Yup. What kind of drive do you want to use with your desktop? You might have to jumper some pins, depending on the drive. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 25 03:34:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA20867 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 03:34:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06216; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 03:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 25 Jan 1999 03:32:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06120; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 03:32:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from apollon.datashopper.dk (root@apollon.datashopper.dk [194.19.129.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06107; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 03:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from datashopper.dk (p207-23.ppp.get2net.dk [195.82.223.23]) by apollon.datashopper.dk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA11233 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:27:15 +0100 Message-ID: <36AC2BE9.3FD7A1B3@datashopper.dk> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:31:38 +0100 From: Bo Elkjaer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: [TP760C] - harddisk-upgr. Can anyone help me? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id DAA06216 Hi I have this tp760c with the 120mhz pentium. Now, what I'd like to know is: Are there any useful links/how-tos on upgrading the harddisk? I have bought a Travelstar 4LP 2.1gig, but everytime I connect it in the TP it just goes 174. What am I doing wrong? Do I need another caddy? And if so, did they really change the pinout on the disk? Oh. and what does 174 stand for? I have recently moved and my manual is in the bottom box in the bottom of my basement... Bo Elkjaer, Denmark -- ULOVLIG KRYPTO-EKSPORT P=C5 BLOT TRE LINIER: #!/bin/perl -sp0777i; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:42:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26093; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:38:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25823; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:38:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.0.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25726; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:38:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from panix7.panix.com (root@panix7.nyc.access.net [166.84.0.232]) by mail1.panix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/PanixM1.3) with ESMTP id KAA12937 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by panix7.panix.com (8.8.8/8.7.1/PanixN1.0) with ESMTP id KAA20400 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:38:23 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: panix7.panix.com: jellison owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:38:23 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Ellison To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: No Mwave dirvers for Linux!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I am running linux on Think Pad 760ed and I know there is no driver for MWAVE sound and modem. Is there a way that I ( or someone ) write the drivers for the Think Pad? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 25 11:36:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA24810 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29280; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:35:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:34:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29173; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:34:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from franklin.lisco.net (root@ns3.lisco.com [206.26.90.190]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29156; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:34:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad-770ed (fairfield-53.lisco.com [206.26.90.123]) by franklin.lisco.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA01752; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:34:06 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003801be4880$574f9680$7b5a1ace@thinkpad-770ed> From: "David Edson" To: "J. Williams" , Subject: Re: 770ed Modem / Ethernet Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:32:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: John, Re modem I'd suggest that you get all of the modem upgrades, but don't install the v90. Once installed, then run and see what speeds you are getting. If your local ISP has x2, you may find it is ok without adding v90. Also, if your local ISP doesn't support v90 it will run even slower with the v90 in. You may also want to try connecting using different lines - the difference can be surprising. I would also install the 'patch' too. The TP DSP modem is very sensitive to line conditions - I get between 42000 and 45333 at work, and never better than 32000 at home, plus have a hard time even getting on some times on the home line and experience a lot of disconnects. This was never the case with my flex56k modem in a Toshiba on the same line. I do suspect that my ISP has different modems on line that contribute to anomalies in connecting. Regards, David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 25 14:14:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA27139 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09682; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:13:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:06:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09108; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (root@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.62]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09089; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:06:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from big-man (crh4210.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.197.99]) by ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA02923 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:06:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003201be4895$c5ee2c40$63c57e82@big-man> From: "George Neurauter" To: Subject: Good 3rd party source for Thinkpad memory Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:06:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I am looking to upgrade my Thinkpad i 1410 laptop and I was wondering if anyone has any recommendations for places to buy memory. Options by IBM is fine, but I am looking for competitive prices on SO-DIMM SDRAM. If anyone has info, please let me know. Thanks! George Neurauter neurautr@uiuc.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 25 14:15:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA27146 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:14:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09669; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:13:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:08:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09225; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:08:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09210; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:08:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp133.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.133]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id NAA28029 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:08:21 -0600 (CST) From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: TP560: Slow to resume from suspend Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:06:42 -0600 Message-ID: <000001be4895$d8190d40$2ee6fea9@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <36A7F25E.96A8DE61@cam.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: > option. Win95 seems to access my hard drive at will, even when I'm not > actively using the computer. Your's doesn't do this? No. If it does, there's something running in the background that's causing it. Using MS Office? Kill "Find Fast". Got automatic mail checkers? Some (MailAlert, etc.) seem to run without accessing the disk; others seem to want access to the mail files each time. Virus scanners on schedules? That sort of thing. As a programmer, you've probably already thought of this, but just in case -- do make sure you set a minimum swap file size, so that Windows doesn't constantly resize it. Dynamic is ok; spastic is annoying. How big is a big enough minimum is the subject of much (tired) debate, and depends on a lot of things, but you probably won't go wrong with the 2 1/2-times-your-RAM rule of thumb. Keeps the hard drive from clacking constantly. My 1720 sits very quietly when its panel is closed, even with Outlook, ICQ, and MailAlert running over a modem connection for hours. It never suspends unless it's told to, and it lights right up eagerly when I reopen the panel. Only makes noise if it finds mail. > > You can also disable Windows power controls via control panel -> power > > management. And finally, you can eliminate one more hitch by entering > > display settings -> advanced -> monitor, and de-select "Reset display on > > suspend/resume". > > Haven't fiddled with "Allow windows to manage power user on this computer" > yet. Thanks for the suggestion. Got the "Reset display on suspend/resume" > option turned off. This at least isn't the source of my problems. > > And, Mr. Kim, > > > > By the way ... "Mr. Stinky"? > > > > Some folks like to call their Thinkpads "Stinkpads." Probably > > due to latent hostile feelings towards IBM from the 1970s. :-) > > Let me assure you "Mr. Stinky" is a term of endearment and nothing > else. Apart from his apparent unwillingness to resume from a state > of suspension, "Stinky" is one fine piece of machinery. If there's any > resentment in me at all, it stems from the choice of processor and > OS IBM made in 1981 (Motorola rules, and MS bites, still!) Sorry > for ranting, folks. Some things just can't be helped ;-) > > Cheers! > > Rich > berdych@cam.org > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 25 14:29:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA27341 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:29:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10887; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:27:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:26:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10764; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:26:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ariel.jimani.com (IDENT:lorenzo@[207.66.81.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10751; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:26:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (lorenzo@localhost) by ariel.jimani.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA03557; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:26:03 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:26:02 -0700 (MST) From: Lorenzo Pollock To: George Neurauter cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Good 3rd party source for Thinkpad memory In-Reply-To: <003201be4895$c5ee2c40$63c57e82@big-man> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I have had excellent luck and low prices at www.thechipmerchant.com They also sell antistatic wrist straps inexpensively. I have also had excellent luck and even better prices but not nearly the service at coast to coast, but I don't remember the url. You can find it with a search. On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, George Neurauter wrote: > I am looking to upgrade my Thinkpad i 1410 laptop and I was wondering if > anyone has any recommendations for places to buy memory. Options by IBM is > fine, but I am looking for competitive prices on SO-DIMM SDRAM. If anyone > has info, please let me know. > > Thanks! > > George Neurauter > neurautr@uiuc.edu > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 25 15:35:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA28241 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:35:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16116; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:34:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:32:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16001; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:32:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15974; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:32:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13331 invoked by uid 66); 25 Jan 1999 20:31:24 -0000 Received: from seneca by slarti with UUCP; 25 Jan 1999 20:31:24 -0000 (GMT) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Harald Milz Newsgroups: local.ml.thinkpad Subject: Re: No Mwave dirvers for Linux!! Date: 25 Jan 1999 17:40:15 GMT Organization: Linux.DE Lines: 13 Message-ID: <78ia9v$1sq$1@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> References: Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de NNTP-Posting-Host: seneca.muc.de X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980618 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.35 (i586)) List-Unsubscribe: Jonathan Ellison wrote: > I am running linux on Think Pad 760ed and I know there is no driver for > MWAVE sound and modem. Is there a way that I ( or someone ) write the > drivers for the Think Pad? That should really be a FAQ. Torsten Duwe is working on it. Without the IBM documentation you'll hardly be able to contribute. -- "Speed is subsittute fo accurancy." From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 25 18:04:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA00366 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:04:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25672; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:02:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:00:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25361; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:00:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from cask.force9.net (cask.force9.net [195.166.128.29]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25340; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5762 invoked from network); 25 Jan 1999 23:01:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coors.free-online.net) (212.56.108.80) by cask.force9.net with SMTP; 25 Jan 1999 23:01:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 12628 invoked from network); 25 Jan 1999 22:55:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sierpinski) (212.56.117.90) by coors.free-online.net with SMTP; 25 Jan 1999 22:55:12 -0000 Message-ID: <003b01be48b6$505be500$5a7538d4@sierpinski> From: "David Ross" To: "Lorenzo Pollock" , "George Neurauter" Cc: Subject: Re: Good 3rd party source for Thinkpad memory Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:59:05 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >I have had excellent luck and low prices at > > www.thechipmerchant.com I had 2 chips in a row from them which didn't work in my TP560; before that I'd used them many times with no problem. I had to eat the shipping on the bum chips. The Viking module I eventually bought instead from Insight was only a few dollars more than the ones chipmerchant was selling. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 25 22:59:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA03006 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:59:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06922; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:59:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:57:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06803; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:57:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from idiom.com (rss@idiom.com [209.157.64.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06787; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:57:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rss@localhost) by idiom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id TAA21839 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:57:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:57:41 -0800 From: "Richard S. Smith" To: Thinkpad List Subject: Crystal Audio/TP600/NT4.0 Message-ID: <19990125195741.A21096@idiom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95us List-Unsubscribe: I think this may ba a FAQ, but I just upgraded my TP600 to NT4.0 SP3, and everything works perfectly except the sound. For one thing, I can't get sound from the modem when it's dialing. Also, the "SBS" audio features (which appear to be in place to make it sound better) seem to make it worse, depending on whether I'm listening to CD's or RealAudio. So I was wondering if (a) anyone has actually gotten Crystal Audio to work in combination with the Mwave modem audio and, if so, how? And (b), has anyone gotten one of the "generic" drivers off the NT installation media to work any better? Thanks, as always. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard S. Smith / rss@idiom.com / http://www.idiom.com/~rss | | Progress DBMS Stuff: http://www.idiom.com/~rss/progress.html | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 25 23:04:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA03075 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:04:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07419; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:04:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:03:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07263; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:03:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mail.gol.com (smtp02.mail.gol.com [203.216.5.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07248; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from tc-1-127.nagoya.gol.ne.jp (tc-1-127.nagoya.gol.ne.jp [203.216.28.127]) by smtp02.mail.gol.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/892-SMTP-P) with SMTP id NAA25078; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:03:39 +0900 (JST) From: scarter@hticn.com (Stephen A. Carter) To: Cc: "George Neurauter" , "Stephen A. Carter" Subject: Re: Good 3rd party source for Thinkpad memory Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:55:48 +0900 Organization: High-Tech Information Center Nagoya, Ltd., Nagoya, Japan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: References: <003201be4895$c5ee2c40$63c57e82@big-man> In-Reply-To: <003201be4895$c5ee2c40$63c57e82@big-man> Lines: 23 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.27Beta [OS/2] List-Unsubscribe: In article <003201be4895$c5ee2c40$63c57e82@big-man>, "George Neurauter" wrote: >I am looking to upgrade my Thinkpad i 1410 laptop and I was wondering if >anyone has any recommendations for places to buy memory. Options by IBM is >fine, but I am looking for competitive prices on SO-DIMM SDRAM. If anyone >has info, please let me know. The one time I ordered a SO-DIMM for a TP701C from Cyberian Outpost they sent me one with the wrong form factor, even after I confirmed by separate email before ordering that it was the right size. Never again. Fie on Cyberian Outpost. In stark contrast to that is Bill Morrow at www.thinkpads.com. Fast, friendly service and good prices, even from halfway around the world. (He's in Florida and I'm in Japan.) Highly recommended. -- Stephen @ just another satisfied customer -- Stephen A. Carter High-Tech Information Center Nagoya, Ltd. Nagoya, Japan PGP key ID: 0x59B4F7AD From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 25 23:14:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA03172 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:14:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08046; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:13:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:13:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07962; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:13:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.mail.gol.com (smtp01.mail.gol.com [203.216.5.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07949; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:13:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from tc-1-127.nagoya.gol.ne.jp (tc-1-127.nagoya.gol.ne.jp [203.216.28.127]) by smtp01.mail.gol.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/892-SMTP-P) with SMTP id NAA13769; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:13:12 +0900 (JST) From: scarter@hticn.com (Stephen A. Carter) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: "Stephen A. Carter" Subject: Where's www.tpwarper.com? Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:14:23 +0900 Organization: High-Tech Information Center Nagoya, Ltd., Nagoya, Japan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Lines: 8 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.27Beta [OS/2] List-Unsubscribe: Does anybody know what's happened to Toyota Shrake's TPWarper web site? -- Stephen A. Carter High-Tech Information Center Nagoya, Ltd. Nagoya, Japan PGP key ID: 0x59B4F7AD From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jan 25 23:39:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA03441 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:39:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09310; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:39:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:38:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09209; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:38:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09189; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.61.186]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990126043751.KCPK27951@dts-jl> for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:37:51 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990125233701.00b79280@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:37:01 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Good 3rd party source for Thinkpad memory In-Reply-To: <003201be4895$c5ee2c40$63c57e82@big-man> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 01:06 PM 1/25/99 -0600, George Neurauter wrote: >I am looking to upgrade my Thinkpad i 1410 laptop and I was wondering if >anyone has any recommendations for places to buy memory. Options by IBM is >fine, but I am looking for competitive prices on SO-DIMM SDRAM. If anyone >has info, please let me know. > Bill Morrow at http://www.thinkpads.com - he's also a member of this list. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 26 04:58:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA05994 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:58:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA18207; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:58:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:55:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA18079; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:55:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from apollon.datashopper.dk (root@apollon.datashopper.dk [194.19.129.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA18064; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:55:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from datashopper.dk (p206-04.ppp.get2net.dk [195.82.196.132]) by apollon.datashopper.dk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA00170; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:50:22 +0100 Message-ID: <36AD90E0.A5F638C4@datashopper.dk> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:54:41 +0100 From: Bo Elkjaer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net, "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: (was:)[TP760C] - harddisk-upgr. (is now:)174-error solved References: <36AC2BE9.3FD7A1B3@datashopper.dk> <36ACF092.1C14@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id EAA18207 Hi Bruce Thanks for reply regarding my problems installing a Travelstar 2,1 gig in= a TP760C. (The usual stuff: TP goes 174, nothing happens, owner tears out h= air, owner asks mailing-list). Yes, its the caddy. But there _is_ actually a shortcut, I found out, if y= ou don't want to pay up for a new caddy, or, as it was in my case, new caddi= es aren't readily available. IBM changed the pinout on the newer disks for the master/slave jumper configuration. Normally the caddy also serve as jumper for master/slave config. This means, that you can't use the older caddies directly. BUT, and this is the tricky part: If you bend over pin 47 or 48 on the di= sk - that is either one of the last set of pins - then it works. It looks like this: [:::::::::::::::::::::: ::] <---- Bend over either one of the last two i= n the group of four in the end... Its crude, but it works. I now have - and use - a 2.1 gig travelstar in a= n old caddy in my TP760. After testing to make sure it worked, I broke pin no. = 48 completely of to make sure the cable would fit perfectly, plugged the bas= tard in and blasted away formatting and installing etc. Hope this will help others with the same problem. And of course: If you start bending over pins on your harddisk, you do it= at your own risk. Bo Elkjaer, Denmark Bruce Markowitz wrote: > It's the caddy] > see www.thinkpads.com > > Bo Elkjaer wrote: > > > > Hi > > I have this tp760c with the 120mhz pentium. Now, what I'd like to kno= w > > is: > > Are there any useful links/how-tos on upgrading the harddisk? > > I have bought a Travelstar 4LP 2.1gig, but everytime I connect it in = the > > TP it just goes 174. What am I doing wrong? Do I need another caddy? = And > > if so, did they really change the pinout on the disk? > > > > Oh. and what does 174 stand for? I have recently moved and my manual = is > > in the bottom box in the bottom of my basement... > > -- ULOVLIG KRYPTO-EKSPORT P=C5 BLOT TRE LINIER: #!/bin/perl -sp0777i; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 05:39:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA26588; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 05:39:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 05:39:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA26472; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 05:39:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.generics.co.uk (mailgate.generics.co.uk [194.216.39.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA26459; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 05:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from scigen.co.uk (scigen) by mailgate.generics.co.uk (5.0/PIPEX simple 1.26) id AA05502; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:45:17 +0000 Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk by scigen.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11635; Tue, 26 Jan 99 10:32:20 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:37:57 +0000 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: [tp755c] IRDA upgrade - PCMCIA cards? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: I'd like to use IRDA on my 755C (which comes without an infrared=20= interface) so I was wondering if there are any PCMCIA cards out there=20= that can do the trick=2E I'd imagine if there were they'd be quite=20= cheap, after all it's just a UART and a small amount of electronics=2E Any pointers/URLs/product names much appreciated=2E - Adam ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom http://www=2Egenerics=2Eco=2Euk ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 26 09:53:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA08064 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:53:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05965; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:52:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:51:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05803; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:51:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from netgate.com.uy (fw1.netgate.com.uy [207.3.114.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05787; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:51:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from bqlzpsrt (nro115.netgate.com.uy [206.99.53.115]) by netgate.com.uy (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA31127 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:06:57 -0300 From: "Harry Teszler" To: Subject: Tecra 740 Adapter for TP 770ED Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:46:45 -0300 Message-ID: <000301be493a$b1d35320$733563ce@bqlzpsrt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Hello everybody! I would like to know if I could use the Tecra 740CDT A/C Adapter for the Thinkpad 770 ED without causing any damage. Thanks in advance and regards. ***************************************************************** Harry Teszler hteszler@netgate.com.uy ICQ#10971865 harryt@redfacil.com.uy Tel.: +598 2 2090884 Fax: +598 2 2030694 +598 2 2003996 Regards from Montevideo, Uruguay. ***************************************************************** From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 26 10:41:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA08568 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09800; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:40:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:39:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09655; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:39:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from uldns2.unil.ch (uldns2.unil.ch [130.223.4.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09611; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:38:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from pcibcm130b.unil.ch ([130.223.201.96] helo=thikpad600) by uldns2.unil.ch with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu id 105AZc-00078n-00; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:38:40 +0100 From: "Etienne Pralong" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: 2 Questions about thinkpad 600 and windows NT and 98 comparaison Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:38:12 +0100 Message-ID: <000401be4941$e2631a00$60c9df82@thikpad600.unil.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Hello, First may I present myself, I am a French speaking researcher in Neuroscience. I bought an TP 600 with 96 MB RAM 6 months ago along with a port replicator station. I use my machine essentially for text processing (Winword) data analysis (Labview and Pclamp) and Internet browsing trough a dedicated line. Now I have a couple of questions concerning the TP 600. I am considering installing Windows NT 4.0 on my machine essentially for robustness purpose. My 2 main questions are What about the speed compared to Windows 98 More importantly, what about the battery use in both systems ? With 98 I could easily use my computer for 2h 30. I have access to all the drivers and patches from IBM site. Etienne Pralong From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 26 11:03:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA08877 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:03:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12048; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:01:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:00:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11921; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:00:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (cave@cavecreations.com [192.41.27.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11907; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:00:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id IAA15444; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:59:55 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:59:55 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199901261559.IAA15444@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: Etienne.Pralong@ibcm.unil.ch Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 2 Questions about thinkpad 600 and windows NT and 98 comparaison List-Unsubscribe: > What about the speed compared to Windows 98 You may find NT just a touch slower than 98. The simple solution is to add more memory... 64mb of RAM and NT4 on a Thinkpad 600E is barely tolerable at times (98 is extremely fast). > More importantly, what about the battery use in both systems? NT tends to run cooler than 98... if you have enough memory, and can cut down on the disk swapping, you'll find that NT workstation may add 15-30 minutes to your battery life. -Al -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998,1999 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 26 11:23:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA09151 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:23:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12533; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:07:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:07:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12381; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:07:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12332; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:06:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from [204.5.147.3] (helo=exch1.smh.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 105B04-0003Ez-00; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:06:02 -0500 Received: by exch1.smh.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:00:17 -0500 Message-ID: <40E8526E9CA4D011A45800805FFEAEDB06311097@exch1.smh.com> From: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" To: Etienne Pralong , ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: RE: 2 Questions about thinkpad 600 and windows NT and 98 comparai son Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:00:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: Etienne, I=92ve had my TP 600 as a dual boot Win98/NT4 machine for about 6mo. = With 128mB RAM and the PII/266 processor I=92ve been pleased with the = performance and stability under WinNT. IBM makes up for NT=92s lack of APM support = with a utility. I don=92t notice much of a difference in battery life between = the two operating systems. If you have the disk space, leave on Win9x and set = it up as a dual boot. I use Windows 98 for games and DVDs. Regards, Neil Halvey -----Original Message----- From: Etienne Pralong [SMTP:Etienne.Pralong@ibcm.unil.ch] Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 10:38 AM To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: 2 Questions about thinkpad 600 and windows NT and 98 comparaison Hello, First may I present myself, I am a French speaking researcher in Neuroscience. I bought an TP 600 with 96 MB RAM 6 months ago along with a port replicator station. I use my machine essentially for text processing (Winword) data analysis (Labview and Pclamp) and Internet browsing trough a dedicated line. Now I have a couple of questions concerning the TP 600. I am considering installing Windows NT 4.0 on my machine essentially for robustness purpose. My 2 main questions are What about the speed compared to Windows 98 More importantly, what about the battery use in both systems ? With 98 I could easily use my computer for 2h 30. I have access to all the drivers and patches from IBM site. Etienne Pralong =09 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 26 13:19:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA10739 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:19:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20005; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:15:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:13:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19812; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:13:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAD (smtp4.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19794; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:13:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:12:42 -0500 Sender: bbender@csi.com Received: from brianb-tp (isdn242.vocollect.com [209.166.154.242]) by hil-img-ims-5.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id NAA29820 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:11:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian Bender" To: "'Thinkpads'" Subject: RE: Crystal Audio/TP600/NT4.0 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:11:59 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01be4957$5e4560a0$2f051fac@brianb-tp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <19990125195741.A21096@idiom.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: You need to revert back to an older (1.80?) version of the audio driver (1.92 is current, I believe, and it's broken) to get your modem audio back... The SRS works OK if you set it to almost maximum "center" and play with the "space" setting. Note that these settings are in the little SRS systray icon (CWB3dSnd.exe)-- you can't control it very well with the volume control mixer itself... ============================================= - Brian Bender Thinkpad 600, 300MHZ, 128MB RAM, 5GB HDD Former owner of: 770 (200MHZ), 560 (120MHZ), 755CSE (DX4/100) Currently running WinNT 4.0 SP3 (about to SP4) and playing with Linux... On Monday, January 25, 1999 10:58 PM, Richard S. Smith wrote: > > > I think this may ba a FAQ, but I just upgraded my TP600 to NT4.0 > SP3, and everything works perfectly except the sound. For one > thing, I can't get sound from the modem when it's dialing. Also, > the "SBS" audio features (which appear to be in place to make it > sound better) seem to make it worse, depending on whether I'm > listening to CD's or RealAudio. > > So I was wondering if (a) anyone has actually gotten Crystal > Audio to work in combination with the Mwave modem audio and, if > so, how? And (b), has anyone gotten one of the "generic" drivers > off the NT installation media to work any better? > > Thanks, as always. > > -- > +--------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Richard S. Smith / rss@idiom.com / http://www.idiom.com/~rss | > | Progress DBMS Stuff: http://www.idiom.com/~rss/progress.html | > +--------------------------------------------------------------+ > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 26 13:20:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA10749 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:20:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20340; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:17:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:17:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20210; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:17:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20039; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:15:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:15:12 -0500 Sender: bbender@csi.com Received: from brianb-tp (isdn242.vocollect.com [209.166.154.242]) by hil-img-10.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id NAA19712; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:14:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian Bender" To: "'Thinkpads'" Cc: "'Adam Quantrill'" Subject: RE: [tp755c] IRDA upgrade - PCMCIA cards? Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:15:10 -0500 Message-ID: <001001be4957$cfefbc50$2f051fac@brianb-tp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I've never seen a PCCard one, but Adaptec makes one that plugs into an existing serial port... (It's called an AirPort -- not even sure if they still make 'em). ============================================= - Brian Bender Thinkpad 600, 300MHZ, 128MB RAM, 5GB HDD Former owner of: 770 (200MHZ), 560 (120MHZ), 755CSE (DX4/100) Currently running WinNT 4.0 SP3 (about to SP4) and playing with Linux... > On Tuesday, January 26, 1999 5:38 AM, Adam Quantrill wrote: > > > I'd like to use IRDA on my 755C (which comes without an > infrared interface) so I was wondering if there are any > PCMCIA cards out there that can do the trick. I'd imagine if > there were they'd be quite cheap, after all it's just a UART > and a small amount of electronics. > > Any pointers/URLs/product names much appreciated. > > - Adam > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > Harston > Cambridge > CB2 5NH > United Kingdom http://www.generics.co.uk > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 26 13:33:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA10926 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:32:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21168; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:25:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21063; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:25:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21048; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:25:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.15.212]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990126182449.GWBM23625@770>; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:24:49 +0000 Message-ID: <001901be4959$76e097e0$d40f4f0c@770> From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "Harry Teszler" , Subject: Re: Tecra 740 Adapter for TP 770ED Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:26:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: The plug won't fit -----Original Message----- From: Harry Teszler To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 9:55 AM Subject: Tecra 740 Adapter for TP 770ED >Hello everybody! > >I would like to know if I could use the Tecra 740CDT A/C Adapter >for the Thinkpad 770 ED without causing any damage. > >Thanks in advance and regards. > > >***************************************************************** >Harry Teszler > >hteszler@netgate.com.uy ICQ#10971865 >harryt@redfacil.com.uy > >Tel.: +598 2 2090884 Fax: +598 2 2030694 > +598 2 2003996 > > Regards from Montevideo, Uruguay. >***************************************************************** > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 26 14:55:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA12073 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:55:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26740; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:52:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:48:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26482; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:48:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (p57124.syspac.com [204.181.57.124]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26459; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:48:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m105ESD-0000zdC; Tue, 26 Jan 99 12:47 MST Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Jan 99 12:47 MST From: jones@pyrrhusoft.com (David Jones) To: scarter@hticn.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Where's www.tpwarper.com? List-Unsubscribe: It has another web master and another URL but most of the OS/2 Warp information is still available: http://Dragon-Master.dragonfire.net/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 26 17:49:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA14536 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:49:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07404; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:48:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:47:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07264; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:47:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07246; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.17.45]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990126224624.DPOR16621@770> for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:46:24 +0000 Message-ID: <36AE4642.2A9F@worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:48:34 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Video card in SelectaDock 2 References: <36AC2BE9.3FD7A1B3@datashopper.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Anyone used a video card in a SelectaDock? I am about to try a Creative Banshee (Voodoo) card in a SelectaDock 2 with a 760ED and a 770 ED Anything I should know about this? Anyone know if it works? Thanks!! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 26 18:31:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA15010 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:30:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09716; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:30:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:29:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09631; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:29:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from dub-img-4.compuserve.com (dub-img-4.compuserve.com [149.174.206.134]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09602; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:29:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dub-img-4.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.17) id SAA07395 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:28:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:27:49 -0500 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: Multi connections via PC Cards Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: thinkpad Message-ID: <199901261828_MC2-6817-57AB@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: I would be interested to know all your solutions for LAN/Modem/ISDN/GSM with your laptops. What do you use? Which brand? How effective is it as a= solution for you? I have good contacts at Xircom if it is of help to any??? Look forward to your comments... Mark From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 26 21:35:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA17211 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:35:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19600; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:34:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:33:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19313; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:33:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (p57077.syspac.com [204.181.57.77]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19215; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:32:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m105Klx-0000zcC; Tue, 26 Jan 99 19:32 MST Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Jan 99 19:32 MST From: jones@pyrrhusoft.com (David Jones) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP IR <--> Palm III? List-Unsubscribe: I seem to recall a few weeks ago some discussion about using a ThinkPad's IR port to communicate directly with a Palm III's instead of the conventional "cradle" approach. Can someone enlighten me on this? Thanks, David Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 26 21:51:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA17401 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:51:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20399; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:44:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:44:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20299; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:44:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20223; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-129.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.129]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA00694; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:44:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990126214725.009b6850@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:47:25 -0500 To: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, thinkpad From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Multi connections via PC Cards In-Reply-To: <199901261828_MC2-6817-57AB@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 06:27 PM 1/26/99 -0500, Mark Gardiner wrote: >I would be interested to know all your solutions for LAN/Modem/ISDN/GSM >with your laptops. What do you use? Which brand? How effective is it as a >solution for you? > >I have good contacts at Xircom if it is of help to any??? > >Look forward to your comments... I use (In order of priority): LAN - 3Com 10/100bT Cardbus adapter (32-bit) 3Com 3c589 10/T/2 Megahertz Xjack 10bT Modem - USR/Megahertz Xjack (XJ1560) 56k V90/X2 Internal Mwave 56k Modem (TP770EDs) ISDN - 3Com 128k ISDN NetSurfer ISDN GSM - None All first choices work flawlessly through my TP 770's and even a few Toshibas. I've basically had zero problems with these devices. ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 26 21:52:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA17425 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:52:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20942; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:51:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:51:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20845; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:51:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigun.c-gate.net (IDENT:root@bigun.c-gate.net [207.120.210.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20829; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from netpathway.com (pm1wayne1-25.c-gate.net [198.79.69.158]) by bigun.c-gate.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA09611 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:50:27 -0600 Sender: root@bigun.c-gate.net Message-ID: <36AE7F3B.1AD1F3E9@netpathway.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 02:51:39 +0000 From: Eric Giles X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Video card in SelectaDock 2 References: <36AC2BE9.3FD7A1B3@datashopper.dk> <36AE4642.2A9F@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Just last week I installed a Guillemot Maxi Gamer Phoenix Voodoo Banshee card in my SelectaDock 2 with my new 770ED. No problems whatsoever on install and everything is working perfectly! All 3Dfx games I have tried (Quake 2, Descent 3 demo, Half-Life, Rouge Squadron, Grand Prix Legends) have worked great. Performance is good with these games also, even with Grand Prix Legends which would be the most CPU and graphics instensive of the bunch (although it helped turning off a few of the graphics options to keep the frame rate up). I still tend to think that there is some type of bottleneck between the laptop and the PCI devices on the docking station. In other words, a similar desktop setup seems to perform a bit better than the laptop/dock combo, but I guess it will have to do. I have called IBM about this before and the tech admitted that it was designed with compatability in mind and it is not tuned for performance. But still, it does a very good job! Install it and have fun! Eric Giles Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > Anyone used a video card in a SelectaDock? > > I am about to try a Creative Banshee (Voodoo) card in a SelectaDock 2 > with a 760ED and a 770 ED > Anything I should know about this? Anyone know if it works? > Thanks!! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 26 22:33:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA17921 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:33:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22841; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:27:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:26:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22746; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:26:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [207.211.168.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22729; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:26:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from wabio (user-38ld0mp.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.130.217]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA29660 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 19:25:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990126221759.00a84850@mail.newsguy.com> X-Sender: wicket@mail.newsguy.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:24:21 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Alan Wong Subject: Thinkpad 600E with NT 4.0 In-Reply-To: <36AE7F3B.1AD1F3E9@netpathway.com> References: <36AC2BE9.3FD7A1B3@datashopper.dk> <36AE4642.2A9F@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: To all TP 600E owners, I'm currently running 98 on my 600E and would like to switch over to NT. I've tried installing NT in the past but gave up because NT was so unforgiving with it's resources. After reading some threads in the group in the past couple on months, it seems there are some 600E users out there that are running NT. Is there any special Tips or configurations I should apply or watch out for...SP3 or SP4? The major problem was com port errors that resulted in various "event" errors. If I recall, this was a very "picky" situation in NT. My options is to use the following. Any tips or recommendations is greatly appreciated. 1) 3Com Combo Cardbus Card 2) Xircom Realport Combo Cardbus Card 3) Mwave modem with the 3com or Xircom for just NIC access Before I take the plunge and do a format , I'd like to get some feedback. Thanks guys, Alan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 26 22:44:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA18080 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:44:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23964; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:42:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23834; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:42:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (cave@cavecreations.com [192.41.27.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23821; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:42:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id UAA02926; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:42:18 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:42:18 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199901270342.UAA02926@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: sammy@newsguy.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E with NT 4.0 List-Unsubscribe: > Is there any special Tips or configurations I should apply or > watch out for...SP3 or SP4? SP4 causes conflicts with the Neomagic 256AV... don't do it (it actually tries to load the video twice, and you get stuck with 640x480). SP3 needs to be installed for the video to work properly at all in NT4. > The major problem was com port errors that resulted in various > "event" errors. I believe there is a resolution on the IBM site. My only other recommendation is to make sure you have enough memory. NT sucks with 64mb of RAM. :) -Al -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998,1999 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 26 22:45:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA18100 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:45:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24146; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:43:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23977; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23808; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:42:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-129.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.129]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA05175; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:44:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990126224659.009b5b80@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:46:59 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: WTB: Selectadock 2/3 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <36AE4642.2A9F@worldnet.att.net> References: <36AC2BE9.3FD7A1B3@datashopper.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I'm looking for a SelectaDock 2 or 3 for a unit at work. If you have one forsale, or can point me to an inexpensive source, I would greatly appreciate it. Mark ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jan 26 23:27:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA18652 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:27:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27542; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:26:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:25:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27450; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:25:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from idiom.com (rss@idiom.com [209.157.64.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27416; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:25:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rss@localhost) by idiom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA09123; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:25:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:25:16 -0800 From: "Richard S. Smith" To: Alan Wong Cc: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E with NT 4.0 Message-ID: <19990126202516.B7810@idiom.com> References: <36AC2BE9.3FD7A1B3@datashopper.dk> <36AE4642.2A9F@worldnet.att.net> <36AE7F3B.1AD1F3E9@netpathway.com> <4.1.19990126221759.00a84850@mail.newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95us In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990126221759.00a84850@mail.newsguy.com>; from Alan Wong on Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 10:24:21PM -0500 List-Unsubscribe: sammy@newsguy.com (Alan Wong) wrote: > After reading some threads in the group in the past couple on months, > it seems there are some 600E users out there that are running NT. Is there > any special Tips or configurations I should apply or watch out for...SP3 or > SP4? Definitely SP3. > The major problem was com port errors that resulted in various "event" > errors. If I recall, > this was a very "picky" situation in NT. My options is to use the following. > Any tips or recommendations is greatly appreciated. What worked for me was to not bother with the infrared stuff because I don't need it. Basically you have to decide which two of the three port-based devices you want to use (DB9 serial port, Mwave internal modem, and infrared port). In my case I wanted DB9 on COM1 and Mwave modem on COM2. After installing infrared (slavishly doing what the web site told me to do ;-), I got the "event" errors, and then uninstalled and had no problems. I also uninstalled the Card Wizard. I found it annoying that it ALWAYS put itself on my desktop, rather than being polite and going to the system tray. Since the only card I ever use is a 3com 10/100, this is OK for me. So, apart from the Crystal Audio thing I posted about earlier, TP600 + NT4 + SP3 works just fine. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard S. Smith / rss@idiom.com / http://www.idiom.com/~rss | | Progress DBMS Stuff: http://www.idiom.com/~rss/progress.html | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 27 01:14:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA20087 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:14:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02230; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:12:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02111; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.its.rpi.edu (root@mail1.its.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02074; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from liw (resnet-1831.dynamic.rpi.edu [128.113.183.153]) by mail1.its.rpi.edu (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id BAA35562 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:12:46 -0500 From: "Chewie" To: Subject: RE: Video card in SelectaDock 2 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:10:15 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be49bb$b5b98960$99b77180@liw.dynamic.rpi.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <36AE4642.2A9F@worldnet.att.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: I currently have a Creative Labs Banshee PCI card in my SelectaDock III (which my ThinkPad 600) is connected to) with no problems what so ever. It works great with 3Dfx games such as Need For Speed 3, etc. It should have no problems with your SelectaDock III. Wan Chiu Li From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 27 06:40:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA22350 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 06:40:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA17823; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 06:39:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 27 Jan 1999 06:37:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA17580; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 06:37:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA17566; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 06:37:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5482 invoked by uid 66); 27 Jan 1999 11:36:08 -0000 Received: from seneca by slarti with UUCP; 27 Jan 1999 11:36:08 -0000 (GMT) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Harald Milz Newsgroups: local.ml.thinkpad Subject: Re: TP IR <--> Palm III? Date: 27 Jan 1999 08:54:16 GMT Organization: Linux.DE Lines: 13 Message-ID: <78mk7o$dti$1@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> References: Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de NNTP-Posting-Host: seneca.muc.de X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980618 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.35 (i586)) List-Unsubscribe: David Jones wrote: > I seem to recall a few weeks ago some discussion about using a > ThinkPad's IR port to communicate directly with a Palm III's instead > of the conventional "cradle" approach. Can someone enlighten me on > this? Sure. Simply read the documentation on http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/PFAN-3V4RVG.html. For me it worked immediately. -- Machine-Independent, adj.: Does not run on any existing machine. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 27 08:24:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA23010 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:24:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20452; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:23:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:22:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20362; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:22:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pgh.nauticom.net (pgh.nauticom.net [198.190.226.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20349; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:22:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from thomascomputer (13.pitt1.pitt.dialup.nauticom.net [209.195.137.13]) by pgh.nauticom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA22048 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:13:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901271313.IAA22048@pgh.nauticom.net> Reply-To: From: "Thomas A. Jones" To: Subject: Video card in Docking Station Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:20:47 -0500 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I have a 770X 7AU, and was wondering if I purchased the docking station for this unit, I noticed the docking station has PCI Slots. Is it feasible to install a video card such as ATI Rage Fury, in the PCI slot, then run your external monitor through this video card? If so, this would make the laptop comparable to a desktop as far as running 3D games? Thanks for any insight into this... Tom Jones Pittsburgh, PA From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 27 12:15:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA26095 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:15:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01831; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:10:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:09:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01676; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:09:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out-0.tiac.net (mail-out-0.tiac.net [199.0.65.247]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01631; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:09:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out-2.tiac.net (mail-out-2.tiac.net [199.0.65.13]) by mail-out-0.tiac.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27064 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:08:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ecottrell@Doble.com) Received: from ntmail.doble.com (ntmail.doble.com [204.215.186.11]) by mail-out-2.tiac.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA25119 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 07:11:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ecottrell@Doble.com) Received: by ntmail.doble.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BE49ED.7A086580@ntmail.doble.com>; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:06:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" , "'jones@pyrrhusoft.com'" Subject: RE: TP IR <--> Palm III? Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:06:30 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: >I seem to recall a few weeks ago some discussion about using a >ThinkPad's IR port to communicate directly with a Palm III's instead >of the conventional "cradle" approach. Can someone enlighten me on >this? Hello, I would be interested in this as well because I just got a Palm III and I like it! I sync it up with my Thinkpad instead of my Desktop. I recently bought the portable sync cable and with a null modem and other adapters I can hook it up to my GPS. I can now use the Palm III for navigation instead of dragging out and hooking up my Thinkpad in the car. I can download maps from the Thinkpad to the Palm III. Doing it via IR could be neat. I was considering the HP LX200 Dos based one as I can develop and run DOS stuff on it. I could not find the apps I needed. So I considered the Palm III and WinCE. Unfortunately you can not upload an Windows 3.1/95/98 app to the WinCE machine and have it run without recompiling to the WinCE platform. So both Palm and WinCE machines need special program development software. For it's small size (a factor in choice) it does everything I want. The black and white display is not too bad for map display. It is also possible to use the GPS/Palm III when on foot. It is tough carrying an open and running Thinkpad through the woods 8->. Unfortunately I have not played with the IR on the Palm or the 365ED. I did download a update off the 3com site that adds some protocols (the purpose is to communicate with Erikson Cell Phones). There is an application to use the IR on the Palm for a remote control as well. 73 Eric eac@shore.net WB1HBU From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 27 12:17:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA26130 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:17:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01835; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:08:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01565; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:08:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from pike.sover.net (pike.sover.net [209.198.87.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01508; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:07:48 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from MYHOSTNAME (arc1a157.bf.sover.net [209.198.81.159]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA06101; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:06:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901271706.MAA06101@pike.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on pike.sover.net) MYHOSTNAME from arc1a157.bf.sover.net [209.198.81.159] 209.198.81.159 Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:06:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:02:24 -0500 To: kathyrm@aol.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: New 600E Info? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.51 b51 List-Unsubscribe: Can any one tell me what Anouncement letter 199-031 says? The machine I tried to read it on (W95) at work keeps locking up on a Java script error (surprise-surprise). _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 27 13:31:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA27029 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:31:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07377; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:29:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:28:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07148; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:28:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07101; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:27:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgoldman.vip.best.com (adsl-216-101-170-226.dsl.pacbell.net [216.101.170.226]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id KAA10927; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:22:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990127101902.00ab0630@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:22:24 -0800 To: letoured@sover.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Getting copies of IBM announcements In-Reply-To: <199901271706.MAA06101@pike.sover.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:02 PM 1/27/99 -0500, you wrote: >Can any one tell me what Anouncement letter 199-031 says? The machine I >tried to read it on (W95) at work keeps locking up on a Java script error >(surprise-surprise). According to the bottom of the IBM weekly mailing: USING THE GET COMMAND: To retrieve full text, replace the _ to the left of the title with a G for GET and resend the form OR send an e-mail to info@isource.ibm.com with GET 1998XXXXXX (document number) in the body of the note. Complete press releases can also be found at http://www.ibm.com/News/uspress.html. I'd suggest that you just use the e-mail method to get the complete text of the announcement. In other words, send an email to info@isource.ibm.com and put GET 1998199031 (or maybe GET 1999199031) to retrieve the desired announcement -- David Goldman From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 27 13:32:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA27048 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:32:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07578; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:30:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:29:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07416; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:29:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from send101.yahoomail.com (send101.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.87]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07392; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:29:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990127182817.29286.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Received: from [134.100.160.112] by send101.yahoomail.com; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:28:17 PST Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:28:17 -0800 (PST) From: swjatoslaw gerus Subject: Re: 560 and 600 battery capacity To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Gentleman's How great is battery capacity by 600 ?Exist one or different variant ? As example by 560 10.8v*2200mah. I would very pleased for some kind of info. Yours Respectfully Gerus -- _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 27 13:42:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA27218 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:42:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09026; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:40:09 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08835; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:40:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id NAA18865 for dist-thinkpad; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:40:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03984; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:33:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from paddy (mg131-013.ricochet.net [204.179.131.13]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA02320; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:33:11 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Richard S. Smith" , "Alan Wong" Cc: "Thinkpad List" Subject: RE: Thinkpad 600E with NT 4.0 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:33:11 -0800 Message-ID: <002001be4a1b$1c33c5c0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990126202516.B7810@idiom.com> List-Unsubscribe: > I also uninstalled the Card Wizard. I found it annoying that it > ALWAYS put itself on my desktop, rather than being polite and > going to the system tray. Since the only card I ever use is a > 3com 10/100, this is OK for me. Something was wrong with your CardWizard. It should go into the system tray. I would hate to run NT without it--losing the ability to hotswap my network card would really limit the machine's usefulness. -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 27 13:44:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA27261 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08507; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:38:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:37:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08296; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:37:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from send105.yahoomail.com (send105.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.128]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08271; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:36:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990127183719.27671.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> Received: from [134.100.160.112] by send105.yahoomail.com; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:37:19 PST Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:37:19 -0800 (PST) From: swjatoslaw gerus Subject: Re: 560 and 600 battery capacity To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Gentleman's How great is battery capacity by 600 ?Exist one or different variant ? As example by 560 10.8v*2200mah. I would very pleased for some kind of info. Yours Respectfully Gerus -- _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 27 14:00:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA27448 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:00:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10918; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:58:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:57:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10802; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10787; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:57:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls-dell-15.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA16320; Wed, 27 Jan 99 13:56:35 EST Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (gummi [18.27.0.33]) by sls-dell-15.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id NAA09471; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:56:33 -0500 (EST) Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <36AF6161.2CD46FEB@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:56:33 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 560 and 600 battery capacity References: <19990127182817.29286.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: 600 Li-Ion battery: 10.V 3.2AH --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 27 22:51:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA03684 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:51:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07139; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:50:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:47:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06942; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:47:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06928; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:47:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id VAA18265 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:47:30 -0600 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:47:30 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Repair Suggestions, anyone? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: So I bought this broken 365XD pretty darn cheap. I figure I can buy another one and use this for parts, or fix this one. Is it worth trying IBM service? Will it be more expensive than buying another machine? Do any of you have experience dealing with a good laptop repair place? Thanks in advance, Chris Schumann From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jan 27 23:25:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA03978 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:25:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08342; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:24:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:23:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08225; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:23:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [207.211.168.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08212; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:23:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from wabio (user-38ld0m9.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.130.201]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA13645 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:23:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990127231502.00a0d2d0@mail.newsguy.com> X-Sender: wicket@mail.newsguy.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:18:46 -0500 To: "Thinkpad List" From: Alan Wong Subject: Cardbus and NT 4.0 In-Reply-To: <002001be4a1b$1c33c5c0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> References: <19990126202516.B7810@idiom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hello, It has come to my conclusion that NT 4.0 doesn't support Cardbus at all. Yes, I know it says specifically on IBM site that this is true but I've heard of people having "succesful" installations of Cardbus cards in NT 4. Would any TP 600E or any TP owner running NT 4.0 have a cardbus card working in their unit. Just seeing if this is possible. So far, I've had no luck with either the combo 3Com or Realport card. Thanks, Alan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 01:32:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA05018 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:32:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12033; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:31:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:30:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11628; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:30:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11615; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:29:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-16.gate.net [207.36.212.16]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA59948; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:29:53 -0500 Message-ID: <36B003D4.C95AE6@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:29:41 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Schumann CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Repair Suggestions, anyone? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Chris.. whats wrong with the 365XD..?? those were built in taiwan.. ezserve cost would be high, i think, unless it was an easy and cheap repair.. Chris Schumann wrote: > So I bought this broken 365XD pretty darn cheap. I figure I can buy > another one and use this for parts, or fix this one. > > Is it worth trying IBM service? Will it be more expensive than buying > another machine? > > Do any of you have experience dealing with a good laptop repair place? > > Thanks in advance, > Chris Schumann -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 01:35:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA05045 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:35:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12602; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:34:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:34:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12500; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:34:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12487; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-16.gate.net [207.36.212.16]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA60138; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:34:00 -0500 Message-ID: <36B004CB.F72354F0@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:33:48 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Harry Teszler CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Tecra 740 Adapter for TP 770ED References: <000301be493a$b1d35320$733563ce@bqlzpsrt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Harry.. the question is way too broad.. BUT.. :-) the IBM AC adapter provides about 16VDC through a round 'barrel' type plug.. the 'tip' is positive, the ring is negative.. with the above info. being correct on the tosh adapter, then if it fits, it should work fine.. no warranty implied.. :-) Harry Teszler wrote: > Hello everybody! > > I would like to know if I could use the Tecra 740CDT A/C Adapter > for the Thinkpad 770 ED without causing any damage. > > Thanks in advance and regards. > > ***************************************************************** > Harry Teszler > > hteszler@netgate.com.uy ICQ#10971865 > harryt@redfacil.com.uy > > Tel.: +598 2 2090884 Fax: +598 2 2030694 > +598 2 2003996 > > Regards from Montevideo, Uruguay. > ***************************************************************** -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 01:40:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA05088 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:40:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12959; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:39:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12876; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12862; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:39:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-16.gate.net [207.36.212.16]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA63572; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:40:02 -0500 Message-ID: <36B00636.27409751@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:39:50 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Berry CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 Hard drives References: <+hnq24miptFJ092yn@islandnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Jonathan.. 1. 6.4gig works wonderfully in the 701.. 2. do not use any jumpers on it if/when you swap it for the current HDD.. 3. No bios update is needed.. but if you want to use fat32, you'll need to make a fat16 partition for the hibernate file, since the bios won't recognise fat32.. 4. 3.5 to 2.5 adapters are all over the place.. prices from $4 to $24 depending... 5. No, you can leave it in the caddy, but you'll need to fabricate a special connector.. SO.. its easier to just remove the drive from the caddy and plug it into the desktop adapter.. Jonathan Berry wrote: > I have two questions about 701 hard drives, which are of the > slim or 12 mm or 12.5 mm variety. > > 1. If I put a 6.4 GM IBM Travelstar 12 mm drive in my thinkpad, > will I need a BIOS upgrade? I know that they require a special > "caddy", and a TORX screwdriver, but fortunately I have both. > > 2. I would also like to get a 2.5" - to - IDE adaptor so that I > can, say, backup my 701 drive on a desktop machine. Can I just > buy one of the standard adaptors, or will I need something > special? Will it mean I have to take the drive out of its > caddy? > > -- > cheers > Jonathan -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 03:25:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA05988 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:25:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16271; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:25:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:24:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16183; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:24:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (smtp0.mindspring.com [207.69.200.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16170; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:24:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp701 (user-38ldgah.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.193.81]) by smtp0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA02597 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:24:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901280824.DAA02597@smtp0.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 28 Jan 99 00:24:49 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Good Pentium ThinkPad List-Unsubscribe: Back to this topic again. I'm trying to sell my ThinkPad on eBay (the other 701), because I spotted a nice 760 I'd like (or maybe a similar machine in the near future). Would a newsgroup be better than eBay? The other machine has a broken TrackPoint and a small crack, other than that, it's been running NT (amazingly) for almost a month. Thanks for any suggestions, Paul Khoury | pkhoury@loop.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Currently using OS/2 Warp 3/4, Solaris 2.3/2.4, Windows NT 4.0, and Windows 98 on my network. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 03:33:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA06082 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:33:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16812; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:33:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:32:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16706; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:32:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16693; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA10516 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 00:32:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 00:32:22 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: ThinkPad List Subject: Memory/HDD on 385ED Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Greetings everyone, I was wondering if it's possible to go above 80 megs of memory on a 385ED and also, does anyone have detailed instructions on how to open the machine to access the HDD? Will the machine accept a standard 2.5" IDE HDD? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 07:42:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA07452 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29021; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:41:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:40:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28902; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:40:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28889; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:40:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id GAA30482; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 06:40:55 -0600 Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 06:40:55 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: Bill Morrow cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Repair Suggestions, anyone? In-Reply-To: <36B003D4.C95AE6@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Bill Morrow wrote: > Chris.. whats wrong with the 365XD..?? > Chris Schumann wrote: > > > So I bought this broken 365XD pretty darn cheap. I figure I can buy > > another one and use this for parts, or fix this one. At least one known-good hard drive and two different CD-ROM drives (one brand new) don't work in it. Sounds like a main board failure. Chris Schumann From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 07:43:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA07466 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:43:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29166; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:43:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:42:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29068; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:42:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29050; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from [204.5.147.3] (helo=exch1.smh.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 105qm7-0005C3-00; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:42:24 -0500 Received: from halveyc (slip129-37-246-39.fl.us.ibm.net [129.37.246.39]) by exch1.smh.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id ZDNM32X7; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:36:42 -0500 From: "halveyc" To: "Alan Wong" , "Thinkpad List" Subject: RE: Cardbus and NT 4.0 Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:52:17 -0500 Message-ID: <000201be4abd$09197410$27f62581@halveyc.smh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990127231502.00a0d2d0@mail.newsguy.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Alan, I've had no trouble getting an Intel Cardbus (32 bit) LAN card working on both my 600 and 770ED. I needed to download the latest drivers from the INtel web site to make it happen. The card works with both Cardwizard 3 and 4. I'm running NT 4 with service pack 4. Regards, Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Wong [mailto:sammy@newsguy.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 11:19 PM > To: Thinkpad List > Subject: Cardbus and NT 4.0 > > > Hello, > > It has come to my conclusion that NT 4.0 doesn't support Cardbus > at all. Yes, I know it says specifically on IBM site that this is true > but I've heard of people having "succesful" installations of Cardbus cards > in NT 4. > > Would any TP 600E or any TP owner running NT 4.0 have a cardbus > card working in their unit. Just seeing if this is possible. So > far, I've had > no luck with either the combo 3Com or Realport card. > > Thanks, > Alan > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 08:40:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA07839 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01571; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:40:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:39:16 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01332; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:39:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id IAA24733 for dist-thinkpad; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:39:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11050; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 00:54:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from holygrail (mg136-164.ricochet.net [204.179.136.164]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA06461; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:54:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <005101be4a82$a311f6e0$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Thinkpad List" , "Alan Wong" Subject: Re: Cardbus and NT 4.0 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:43:19 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I happily run a CardBus 3Com 3C575A 10/100 EtherNet card at 100mbps in my ThinkPad 600 with NT 4 WS (SP4) every single day. To get it rolling I had the inestimable assistance of one Michael Geary, who is another denizen of this list. For some reason, probably performance, Mike doesn't seem to be running his 575A any more. In fact, I am suspicious that it does not really give 100mbps throughput. Anyway it runs. David -----Original Message----- From: Alan Wong To: Thinkpad List Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 8:26 PM Subject: Cardbus and NT 4.0 >Hello, > >It has come to my conclusion that NT 4.0 doesn't support Cardbus >at all. Yes, I know it says specifically on IBM site that this is true >but I've heard of people having "succesful" installations of Cardbus cards >in NT 4. > >Would any TP 600E or any TP owner running NT 4.0 have a cardbus >card working in their unit. Just seeing if this is possible. So far, I've had >no luck with either the combo 3Com or Realport card. > >Thanks, >Alan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 09:14:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA08122 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:14:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03283; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:13:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:12:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03170; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:12:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (IDENT:kim@fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03150; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA19060 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:12:33 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:12:33 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Cardbus and NT 4.0 In-Reply-To: <005101be4a82$a311f6e0$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, David W. Taylor wrote: > I happily run a CardBus 3Com 3C575A 10/100 EtherNet card > at 100mbps in my ThinkPad 600 with NT 4 WS (SP4) every > single day. > > To get it rolling I had the inestimable assistance of one > Michael Geary, who is another denizen of this list. For > some reason, probably performance, Mike doesn't seem to be > running his 575A any more. In fact, I am suspicious that > it does not really give 100mbps throughput. When I was shopping for a 10/100baseT card, I heard the Linksys card had a max throughput of 10 Mbps (the maximum 10baseT is capable of), and the only reason it was labeled 10/100baseT was because it was capable of working on a 100baseT network (at 10 Mbps). Ever since then, I've been very careful to check for quoted max throughput on these cards. I don't know about the particular 3Com model you have, but almost no manufacturer labels the max throughput of their cards! The only thing the 100baseT label tells you is that it is capable of operating on a 100baseT network - it could have a max throughput of less than 10baseT, but as long as it works with a 100baseT network the manufacturer can label it 100baseT. Searching DejaNews, I found several people complaining their 100baseT cards were only giving them 20-30 Mbps, and consoling themselves with "oh well, at least it's faster than 10baseT." So buyer beware. Ask for hard throughput figures from the manufacturer or someone who already owns the card. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 11:41:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA10162 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:41:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11407; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:38:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:36:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11240; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:36:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com (camel8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11211; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:36:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinky (user-38ld2rf.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.139.111]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA03145 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:36:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901281636.LAA03145@camel8.mindspring.com> X-Sender: highwire@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:37:02 -0500 To: Thinkpad List From: Greg Lara Subject: Re: Cardbus and NT 4.0 In-Reply-To: References: <005101be4a82$a311f6e0$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:12 AM 1/28/99 -0500, John Kim wrote: >the manufacturer can label it 100baseT. Searching DejaNews, I >found several people complaining their 100baseT cards were >only giving them 20-30 Mbps, and consoling themselves with >"oh well, at least it's faster than 10baseT." FWIW, NT 4.0 (and probably Windows 9x) on any platform, with any network card, is not capable of utilizting the full bandwidth of 100baseT. The issue is not the card or hardware, but the OS and drivers. It is always a good idea to get the latest version of the drivers for a particular card, but this is no cure for obtaining < 100Mbps. A full discussion of this subject passed through comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.networking a while back, so check it out on Deja-news. Greg Lara From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 12:01:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA10585 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:01:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13046; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:01:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:00:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12926; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:00:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from out4.ibm.net (out4.ibm.net [165.87.194.239]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12904; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:00:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from pobox.com ([129.37.51.127]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA114174; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:00:06 GMT Message-ID: <36B097A4.7FE42901@pobox.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:00:21 -0500 From: "Henry M. Benson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: smaller thinkpad? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi folks, I have a TP 385XD, which I am very happy with except for one problem...if I'm on an airplane and the person in front of me tips their seat back, I no longer have enough clearance to open it! This unfortunately sorta defeats part of the purpose of owning a laptop... :-) So I'm looking for something smaller that I can be guaranteed of using on a plane. Less powerful is OK, and used/cheap would be great. In an ideal world, I'd like to pop the disk out of the 385XD, stick it in the other machine, and go. I suspect I'd need a different hardware profile, but can deal with that. Any suggestions would be most welcome. Many thanks, Henry -- Henry M. Benson hmbtech@pobox.com HMB Technologies, Inc. Belmont, MA Voice: 617-484-1845 Fax: 617-249-0419 http://www.pobox.com/~hmbtech Consulting services in ATE design-to-test, software infrastructure and development From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 12:40:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA11292 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:40:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15920; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:39:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:37:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15736; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15721; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:37:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id LAA01345 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:37:53 -0600 Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:37:53 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Found: Source for cheap drive adapters Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Computer Geeks (www.compgeeks.com) has 2.5" to 3.5" drive adapters for $6.50 plus shipping ($5 ground). If anyone has a cheaper online source, I'm sure it would be of general interest to the list. Chris Schumann From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 12:49:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA11407 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:49:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16738; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:48:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:47:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16533; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:47:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de [160.45.2.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16517; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:47:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from komma.fddi2.fu-berlin.de (160.45.2.6) with smtp id ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:47:36 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:47:33 +0100 (MET) From: Christoph Eyrich X-Sender: eyrich@komma.fddi2.fu-berlin.de To: "Henry M. Benson" cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: smaller thinkpad? In-Reply-To: <36B097A4.7FE42901@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Henry M. Benson wrote: > So I'm looking for something smaller that I can be guaranteed of using on a > plane. Less powerful is OK, and used/cheap would be great. In an ideal world, > I'd like to pop the disk out of the 385XD, stick it in the other machine, and > go. I suspect I'd need a different hardware profile, but can deal with that. If the 701 is too slow you might have a look at the HP Omnibook 800 (you can get it for $1000 including an external CD-Rom and a docking station). It's well designed (apart from the missing trackpoint :-) and reliable. It's a pitty that IBM hasn't produced a new and better 701 (well, they make small machines, but I understand that they are just for the Japanese market.) Regards Christoph Eyrich -- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 13:02:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11598 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:02:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17753; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:59:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:58:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17625; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:58:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iex.net (mail.iex.net [192.156.196.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17596; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:58:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from scansrv (r7a006661ax.hlb.cable.rcn.com [209.122.66.230]) by mail.iex.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA06696; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:53:18 -0700 (MST) Received: by scansrv (VPOP3) with SMTP; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:58:23 -0500 Message-ID: <043701be4ae7$cc590740$0100a8c0@desktop> From: "Robert Briganti" To: "Henry M. Benson" , Subject: Re: smaller thinkpad? Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:58:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0d - Registered to: LOMAX [DSI] List-Unsubscribe: In addition to my Thinkpads I have a Toshiba Libretto model 50 for the very reasons you state: it is much smaller and lighter and great to use on the road. It is, alas, not a ThinkPad. The only thing that IBM made that is even close (at least in size) is the PC110. ----- Original Message ----- From: Henry M. Benson To: Sent: Thursday, January 28, 1999 12:00 Subject: smaller thinkpad? >Hi folks, > >I have a TP 385XD, which I am very happy with except for one problem...if I'm on >an airplane and the person in front of me tips their seat back, I no longer have >enough clearance to open it! This unfortunately sorta defeats part of the >purpose of owning a laptop... :-) > >So I'm looking for something smaller that I can be guaranteed of using on a >plane. Less powerful is OK, and used/cheap would be great. In an ideal world, >I'd like to pop the disk out of the 385XD, stick it in the other machine, and >go. I suspect I'd need a different hardware profile, but can deal with that. > >Any suggestions would be most welcome. > >Many thanks, >Henry > >-- >Henry M. Benson hmbtech@pobox.com >HMB Technologies, Inc. Belmont, MA >Voice: 617-484-1845 Fax: 617-249-0419 >http://www.pobox.com/~hmbtech >Consulting services in ATE design-to-test, >software infrastructure and development > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 13:07:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11673 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:07:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18227; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:06:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:05:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18050; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:05:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18029; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:05:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901281805.NAA18029@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Fri, 27 Jan 1989 11:01:59 -0800 (PST) From: "Victor Kress" To: "Henry M. Benson" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:05:21 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: smaller thinkpad? List-Unsubscribe: I don't remember the layout of the 365, but if it is like the old 750 with the keyboard on the operator side of the computer this can be a real problem on a plane. Laptops with the keyboard up on the screen side, such as the 600 are much better, as they allow the computer to be much closer to you, and the screen farther from the seat ahead while using the keyboard. Despite the bigger screen, I've found the 600 much easier to use on a plane than the old (but still running!) 750. On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:47:33 +0100 (MET), Christoph Eyrich wrote: >On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Henry M. Benson wrote: > >> So I'm looking for something smaller that I can be guaranteed of using on a >> plane. Less powerful is OK, and used/cheap would be great. In an ideal world, >> I'd like to pop the disk out of the 385XD, stick it in the other machine, and >> go. I suspect I'd need a different hardware profile, but can deal with that. > >If the 701 is too slow you might have a look at the HP Omnibook 800 >(you can get it for $1000 including an external CD-Rom and a docking >station). It's well designed (apart from the missing trackpoint :-) and >reliable. It's a pitty that IBM hasn't produced a new and better 701 >(well, they make small machines, but I understand that they are just >for the Japanese market.) > > >Regards > > >Christoph Eyrich > >-- >eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de > > ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 13:25:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11929 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:25:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19449; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:23:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:23:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19303; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:23:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (IDENT:kim@fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19275; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:22:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA20527 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:22:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:22:46 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: smaller thinkpad? In-Reply-To: <36B097A4.7FE42901@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Henry M. Benson wrote: > > I have a TP 385XD, which I am very happy with except for > one problem...if I'm on an airplane and the person in > front of me tips their seat back, I no longer have enough > clearance to open it! This unfortunately sorta defeats > part of the purpose of owning a laptop... :-) You could ask for a seat in the emergency exit rows. FAA regulations require those seats be given to people physically capable of working the exit, so the airlines don't let you reserve those seats. They usually give them on a first-come first-serve basis after eyeball confirmation that you're not illiterate, lame, or too small to work the exit. They have a ton of legroom (usually about twice that of normal seats), but often the seats don't lean back. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 13:45:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA12324 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:45:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21067; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:44:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:42:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20817; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:42:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20779; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:42:05 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from [158.152.181.205] (helo=bs28ha.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 105wO3-0001is-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:41:55 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: smaller thinkpad? Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:37:51 GMT Message-ID: <36b2ab41.163069984@post.demon.co.uk> References: <043701be4ae7$cc590740$0100a8c0@desktop> In-Reply-To: <043701be4ae7$cc590740$0100a8c0@desktop> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: Some time ago, I came across the ThinkPad 235 at http://www.dynamism.com/. This is infact a Japanese model and is generally not available outside Japan, although Dynamism does sell them. A little while later, whilst reading articles in comp.sys.laptops newsgroup, I found out the the 235 is actually made by Ricoh. See this article below: On Thu, 03 Dec 1998 21:19:06 GMT, in comp.sys.laptops chris.neff@ricoh-usa.com wrote: >Do you really think we gave IBM our top of the line. Being the actual >manufacturer we sometimes leave out a few goodies or IBM tells us to, = just as >we did on their 235-20. Soon we too, once USized production is = complete, >will be selling the 266MMX with 4.3 gig, and 64MB on the board...not = 32MB as >the 235- 20 does... and we go to 128MB and offer a beefier video chip = with a >faster 2MB SDRAM..not EDO. And for far less.... Just keep watching the >Magio family grow. On further enquiry on prices & specs, I received the following reply: On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:21:09 -0500, chris.neff@ricoh-usa.com wrote: >We have our P166MMX available for $1,200 through this email only. We = also >have a P233MMX for $1,799. Finally our P266MMX I discussed will be >arriving at end of January at $2,399. I'll throw in a free case on all >units for you. > >The PII is still a couple months away. We will cover your unit but >repairs must occur here in NJ, so you will need to ship it back to us. > >Specs on the 266MMX are not on the web site so I've included an = attachment. > >Check our web site for full specs on the other models... >www.ricoh-usa.com/magio > The full spec of the Magio 4 is shown below: >Microsoft Windows=AE 98=20 >Intel Pentium=AE 266MHz with MMX=99 >512K L2 Cache >64MB EDO RAM (onboard) up to 128MB >4.3 Gigabyte Hard Drive >9.2" Active Matrix Screen >800 x 600 on LCD with up to 16.7 million colors >Up to 1280 x 1024 on ext. CRT with 256 colors >64 Bit PCI Video (C&T 69000) with 2MB SDRAM >Stereo Sound Card >Integrated Stereo Speakers >3 PCMCIA Slots >One 16 bit PCMCIA Slot (Type II) - Zoom Video Support >Two 32 bit CardBus PCMCIA Slots (Two Type II or One Type III)=20 >Zoom Video Support >USB port (12Mbps) >RS-232C Serial port >Parallel port (ECP) >15 Pin VGA port >PS/2 (Shared): Keyboard/Mouse: 6 pin Mini-circular DIN >Stereo Headphone and Microphone Jack >Integrated Microphone=20 >Fast IrDA (4Mbps)/ASK (9.6Kbps)/SIR (115.2Kbps) >Two Lithium-Ion Batteries (Hot Swappable) >2.5 hours life >2 hour recharge (off/suspend), 4 hour recharge when in use >9.2" (W) x 6.8" (D) x 1.3" (H)=20 >2.75 lbs. With both batteries >One AC Adapter >One External Parallel Floppy Disk Drive (Hot Plug)=20 I hope this is of some interest to you guys. Regards, Nick From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 14:33:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA13204 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:33:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24300; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:31:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24186; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:31:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (phr@netcom9.netcom.com [192.100.81.119]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24173; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:31:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id LAA04046 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:31:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:31:35 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199901281931.LAA04046@netcom9.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: smaller thinkpad List-Unsubscribe: Check out the Thinkpad 235 at www.dynamism.com. It's actually the same as some Hitachi machine. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 15:34:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA14164 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:34:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27894; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:32:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:30:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27673; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27641; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:30:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic15.fbtc.net [204.2.11.15]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA07181; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:29:55 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <008d01be4afc$73a108e0$0f0b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "Michael Geary" , "Richard S. Smith" , "Alan Wong" Cc: "Thinkpad List" Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E with NT 4.0 Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:26:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: IBM support had me remove Card Wizard from my 380ED because there was a problem with Sandisk flash cards. I don't remember what the problem was now. The support guy explained that Card Wizard wasn't needed by most cards. Maybe it was network cards that he said they were really designed for. I'm not sure now. I only use a flash card and a modem. After removing it, the problem went away and no new problems cropped up. I still have an icon in my system tray to use to hot-swap cards. It turns out that Card Wizard isn't needed for that. I have several flash cards with different things that I use in my palmtop and I'm always swapping them. Barry -----Original Message----- From: Michael Geary To: Richard S. Smith ; Alan Wong Cc: Thinkpad List Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 11:33 AM Subject: RE: Thinkpad 600E with NT 4.0 >> I also uninstalled the Card Wizard. I found it annoying that it >> ALWAYS put itself on my desktop, rather than being polite and >> going to the system tray. Since the only card I ever use is a >> 3com 10/100, this is OK for me. > >Something was wrong with your CardWizard. It should go into the system tray. >I would hate to run NT without it--losing the ability to hotswap my network >card would really limit the machine's usefulness. > >-Mike > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 15:58:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA14524 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:58:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29748; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:53:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:52:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29602; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:52:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29473; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:51:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from kramer.ne.mediaone.net (kramer.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.125.14]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA02413 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:51:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36B0CDB6.4CB2D822@kramer.ne.mediaone.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:51:02 -0500 From: David Kramer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad mailing list Subject: Upgrading BIOS without battery Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a 755C (an F0E) (the one with the stone case and papyrus screen it's so old). I would like to take out the 340MB drive and put in a BIG HONKIN' drive. I know I have to update the BIOS first. When I try it says I need a charged battery connected in case of power loss. I have a battery, but it won't charge. Does anyone know a way around this? I'd rather not buy a battery just to upgrade the motherboard. If someone on this list were near Boston, MA, USA, would they be willing to lend/rent me a battery long enough to do the upgrade? Also, is it true that if I do upgrade the BIOS, I can put any 2.5" drive in there, or do I need to select among a few "blessed" drives? I'd rather not pay IBM prices. Thanks in advance. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- DDDD David Kramer david@kramer.ne.mediaone.net DK KD http://start.at/david.kramer DKK D Sure, there are things in the sky that we can't identify. DK KD But there are things in my refrigerator that I can't identify. DDDD That doesn't mean they're space alien leftovers. -Penn Jillette From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 17:43:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA16408 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:43:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06283; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:41:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:39:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06162; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:39:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.noc.netcom.net (mail3.noc.netcom.net [204.31.1.151]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06146; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:39:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from denver.servicemetrics.com (denver.servicemetrics.com [206.247.247.100]) by mail3.noc.netcom.net (8.9.1/8.9.1/(NETCOM v2.00)) with SMTP id OAA10044; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:38:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssh by denver.servicemetrics.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA15385; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:34:42 -0700 From: "Steve Hultquist" To: "David Kramer" Cc: "thinkpad mailing list" Subject: RE: Upgrading BIOS without battery Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:39:21 -0700 Message-ID: <001c01be4b0f$0c281a60$54f7f7ce@ssh.servicemetrics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <36B0CDB6.4CB2D822@kramer.ne.mediaone.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 List-Unsubscribe: The reason you need the battery is in case the power goes out. If the power goes out and you don't have a battery and the BIOS is only partially flashed, your motherboard is toast. You can gamble if you want to, of course. >I have a 755C (an F0E) (the one with the stone case and papyrus screen >it's so old). I would like to take out the 340MB drive and put in a BIG >HONKIN' drive. I know I have to update the BIOS first. When I try it >says I need a charged battery connected in case of power loss. > >I have a battery, but it won't charge. Does anyone know a way around >this? I'd rather not buy a battery just to upgrade the motherboard. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 18:10:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA16810 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:10:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07579; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:08:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:07:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07464; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:07:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (ne.mediaone.net [24.128.1.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07389; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:06:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from kramer.ne.mediaone.net (kramer.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.125.14]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA07764 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:06:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36B0ED6F.D6504339@kramer.ne.mediaone.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:06:23 -0500 From: David Kramer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: Upgrading BIOS without battery References: <001c01be4b0f$0c281a60$54f7f7ce@ssh.servicemetrics.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Steve Hultquist wrote: > > The reason you need the battery is in case the power goes out. If the power goes > out and you don't have a battery and the BIOS is only partially flashed, your > motherboard is toast. You can gamble if you want to, of course. No, in fact I CAN'T gamble if I want to. The software test if there is a charged battery installed, and WILL NOT RUN if it is not. I understand the reason they want it that way, but I think a stern warning and an "Are you sure" dialog box would have made sure that the newbies took precautions, and let someone like me do what I gotta do. As another post suggested, I have a UPS already that I could (and would have) plugged the power into. That should have sufficed. ------------------------------------------------------------------- DDDD David Kramer david@kramer.ne.mediaone.net DK KD http://start.at/david.kramer DKK D Sure, there are things in the sky that we can't identify. DK KD But there are things in my refrigerator that I can't identify. DDDD That doesn't mean they're space alien leftovers. -Penn Jillette From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jan 28 23:33:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA21046 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 23:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19560; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 23:32:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 28 Jan 1999 23:30:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19418; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 23:30:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19402; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 23:30:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldgmo.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.194.216]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA27048 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 23:30:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901290430.XAA27048@smtp3.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 28 Jan 99 20:30:04 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ThinkPad 760EL List-Unsubscribe: I'm spottiing a 760EL I might consider getting. How well do these perform (a Pentium 120 model) compare to say a 100MHz desktop Pentium? What about playing MP3's in the car? Battery life would be good? Any things to watch out for (besides MWave, which I like)? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 29 08:17:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA25636 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:17:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12089; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:16:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:14:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11943; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:14:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.mail.gol.com (smtp01.mail.gol.com [203.216.5.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11929; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:14:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from tc-1-219.nagoya.gol.ne.jp (tc-1-219.nagoya.gol.ne.jp [203.216.28.219]) by smtp01.mail.gol.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/892-SMTP-P) with SMTP id WAA16241; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 22:14:42 +0900 (JST) From: scarter@hticn.com (Stephen A. Carter) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: "Stephen A. Carter" Subject: Re: smaller thinkpad? Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:52:36 +0900 Organization: High-Tech Information Center Nagoya, Ltd., Nagoya, Japan Reply-To: "Stephen A. Carter" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Lines: 24 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.27Beta [OS/2] List-Unsubscribe: In message , Christoph Eyrich wrote: >reliable. It's a pitty that IBM hasn't produced a new and better 701 >(well, they make small machines, but I understand that they are just >for the Japanese market.) You might be thinking of the ThinkPad 535 series. There's a 535E (2606-3ZJ) where I work. When closed, it looks a lot like a 701C, but the keyboard doesn't expand when opened. As I recall, the connection ports for the external CD-ROM and (I think) the floppy drive are under a flimsy plastic hinged door on one side of the machine, which IMO is bad design. Other than that, it seems like a nice little machine, though I haven't spent a lot of time with it. Though the page is in Japanese, there's a fairly clear picture of a 535E at . -- Stephen A. Carter High-Tech Information Center Nagoya, Ltd. Nagoya, Japan PGP key ID: 0x59B4F7AD Be labz 9 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 29 13:10:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA00672 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 13:07:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00505; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 13:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 29 Jan 1999 13:00:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29992; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 13:00:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate1.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29973; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 12:59:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from paddy (mg131-013.ricochet.net [204.179.131.13]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA21897; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:59:36 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Paul Rubin" , Subject: RE: smaller thinkpad Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:59:36 -0800 Message-ID: <001b01be4bb1$21cd9b90$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199901281931.LAA04046@netcom9.netcom.com> List-Unsubscribe: > Check out the Thinkpad 235 at www.dynamism.com. > It's actually the same as some Hitachi machine. It's made by Ricoh, and of course it has a Japanese keyboard. You can get the same machine with a US keyboard, but with the Ricoh name on it, direct >from Ricoh. -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 29 17:17:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA04701 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16274; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:16:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:14:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16038; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:14:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from REG.TRIUMF.CA (reg.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16011; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:13:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmachule (142.90.120.3) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V5.1 Vn8g) with SMTP; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:13:33 -1300 From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: "Paul Khoury" CC: Subject: Re: ThinkPad 760EL Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:14:44 -0800 Message-ID: <01be4bd4$c627ce40$03785a8e@pmachule> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: Hi Paul ... I have no intention of buying it out from underneath you .(grin) Private sale or do they have more.? As you know the L stands for Low Cost ....... They made too many versions of the darn thing. Do you have the product number 9547-Auk etc... It's all explained ..sort of in Roger Dodson's Twbook.pdf file available >from the FTP site. I think you have it. The ones with the 256Cache are quick ...in fact the quickest P-120's out there. NONE have M-wave. The Trident 9320 Video chipset is slowish . But some of the active Matrix ones have the 64Bit Trident 9385 which is actually quite good. The Fall 96 models are still under warranty ... Replace the Memory cover ASAP , it's free; just phone IBM . The replacement has a latch . ..peter who can babble about these toys ..on and on and ....... -----Original Message----- From: Paul Khoury To: ThinkPad List Date: Friday, January 29, 1999 1:31 AM Subject: ThinkPad 760EL >I'm spottiing a 760EL I might consider getting. How well do these perform (a Pentium 120 model) >compare to say a 100MHz desktop Pentium? What about playing MP3's in the car? Battery life would >be good? Any things to watch out for (besides MWave, which I like)? > >-- >Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 >http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html >Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 >ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 29 20:20:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA06848 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:20:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22774; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:20:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:18:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22616; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:18:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22600; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:18:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic22.fbtc.net [204.2.11.22]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA14608; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:17:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <007901be4bed$c5d11960$015dc998@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "Victor Kress" , "Henry M. Benson" Cc: Subject: Re: smaller thinkpad? Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:13:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: The 365 has the keyboard in the middle but there isnt much behind it either. an inch and 1/4 i guess. It's a little smaller machine. But still not a small one. Barry -----Original Message----- From: Victor Kress To: Henry M. Benson Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 4:05 AM Subject: Re: smaller thinkpad? >I don't remember the layout of the 365, but if it is like the old 750 with the keyboard on >the operator side of the computer this can be a real problem on a plane. Laptops with >the keyboard up on the screen side, such as the 600 are much better, as they allow the >computer to be much closer to you, and the screen farther from the seat ahead while >using the keyboard. Despite the bigger screen, I've found the 600 much easier to use >on a plane than the old (but still running!) 750. > >On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:47:33 +0100 (MET), Christoph Eyrich wrote: > >>On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Henry M. Benson wrote: >> >>> So I'm looking for something smaller that I can be guaranteed of using on a >>> plane. Less powerful is OK, and used/cheap would be great. In an ideal world, >>> I'd like to pop the disk out of the 385XD, stick it in the other machine, and >>> go. I suspect I'd need a different hardware profile, but can deal with that. >> >>If the 701 is too slow you might have a look at the HP Omnibook 800 >>(you can get it for $1000 including an external CD-Rom and a docking >>station). It's well designed (apart from the missing trackpoint :-) and >>reliable. It's a pitty that IBM hasn't produced a new and better 701 >>(well, they make small machines, but I understand that they are just >>for the Japanese market.) >> >> >>Regards >> >> >>Christoph Eyrich >> >>-- >>eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de >> >> > >________________________________ >Victor Kress >Geological Sciences >Box 351310 >University of Washington >Seattle, Washington >98195-1310 > >(206)616-8512 >kress@u.washington.edu > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 29 20:35:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA07006 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:35:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23287; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:35:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:34:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23195; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:34:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23181; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:34:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic22.fbtc.net [204.2.11.22]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA17530; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:33:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <008601be4bef$f7fef220$015dc998@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "David Kramer" , "thinkpad mailing list" Subject: Re: Upgrading BIOS without battery Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:29:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I blew 2 Compaq laptops by flashing the bios. This wasnt a power problem. It was a problem in the upgrade. Compaq was on the phone with me when it happened and they replaced both system boards free, and very quickly so it turned out ok. But from that experience I know how bad it can get if something goes wrong. Basically if your power goes out or anything else interrupts the upgrade, the bios is gone. The software needed to boot to the point that that can be fixed is in the bios so it can't be fixed. I'd buy the battery. Barry -----Original Message----- From: David Kramer To: thinkpad mailing list Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 2:51 PM Subject: Upgrading BIOS without battery >I have a 755C (an F0E) (the one with the stone case and papyrus screen >it's so old). I would like to take out the 340MB drive and put in a BIG >HONKIN' drive. I know I have to update the BIOS first. When I try it >says I need a charged battery connected in case of power loss. > >I have a battery, but it won't charge. Does anyone know a way around >this? I'd rather not buy a battery just to upgrade the motherboard. > >If someone on this list were near Boston, MA, USA, would they be willing >to lend/rent me a battery long enough to do the upgrade? > >Also, is it true that if I do upgrade the BIOS, I can put any 2.5" drive >in there, or do I need to select among a few "blessed" drives? I'd >rather not pay IBM prices. > >Thanks in advance. >-- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ >DDDD David Kramer david@kramer.ne.mediaone.net >DK KD http://start.at/david.kramer >DKK D Sure, there are things in the sky that we can't identify. >DK KD But there are things in my refrigerator that I can't identify. >DDDD That doesn't mean they're space alien leftovers. -Penn Jillette > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 29 20:38:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA07052 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:38:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23529; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:38:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:37:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23445; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:37:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23431; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:37:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic22.fbtc.net [204.2.11.22]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA18096; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:36:51 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <008f01be4bf0$786d0f00$015dc998@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: ThinkPad 760EL Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:32:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I have a 365XD with a 120 MHz Pentium and I'm very happy with it's performance using MSVC 5 and Watcom C and MS Office. I suppose my desktop computer is a lot faster but I never bothered to compare them. I don't play mp3 files on the laptop though. I suspect that would be rough on battery life. Barry -----Original Message----- From: Paul Khoury To: ThinkPad List Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 10:30 PM Subject: ThinkPad 760EL >I'm spottiing a 760EL I might consider getting. How well do these perform (a Pentium 120 model) >compare to say a 100MHz desktop Pentium? What about playing MP3's in the car? Battery life would >be good? Any things to watch out for (besides MWave, which I like)? > >-- >Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 >http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html >Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 >ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jan 29 20:52:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA07165 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:52:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24330; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:50:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:50:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24232; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:50:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iex.net (mail.iex.net [192.156.196.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24218; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:50:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from scansrv (r7a006661ax.hlb.cable.rcn.com [209.122.66.230]) by mail.iex.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA07457; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 18:44:49 -0700 (MST) Received: by scansrv (VPOP3) with SMTP; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:49:56 -0500 Message-ID: <094101be4bf2$d67ba9b0$0100a8c0@desktop> From: "Robert Briganti" To: "Barry Marks" , "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: ThinkPad 760EL Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:49:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0d - Registered to: LOMAX [DSI] List-Unsubscribe: I have an Intel PR440FX motherboard with a fallback ROM in the BIOS to use in case the flash BIOS gets trashed. Too bad the notebook manufacturers didn't copy the feature. Unless, that is, there is an issue that I am not aware of that prevents notebooks from having such a feature. ----- Original Message ----- From: Barry Marks To: Paul Khoury ; ThinkPad List Sent: Friday, January 29, 1999 20:32 Subject: Re: ThinkPad 760EL >I have a 365XD with a 120 MHz Pentium and I'm very happy with it's >performance using MSVC 5 and Watcom C and MS Office. I suppose my desktop >computer is a lot faster but I never bothered to compare them. > >I don't play mp3 files on the laptop though. I suspect that would be rough >on battery life. > >Barry > >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul Khoury >To: ThinkPad List >Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 10:30 PM >Subject: ThinkPad 760EL > > >>I'm spottiing a 760EL I might consider getting. How well do these perform >(a Pentium 120 model) >>compare to say a 100MHz desktop Pentium? What about playing MP3's in the >car? Battery life would >>be good? Any things to watch out for (besides MWave, which I like)? >> >>-- >>Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 >>http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html >>Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 >>ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 >> >> > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 30 12:27:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA14401 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:27:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25507; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:26:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:22:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25311; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25297; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:22:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pobox.com (slip129-37-51-88.ca.us.ibm.net [129.37.51.88]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA18160; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:22:23 GMT Message-ID: <36B33FE0.DD046C13@pobox.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:22:40 -0500 From: "Henry M. Benson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: smaller thinkpad References: <001b01be4bb1$21cd9b90$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi folks, Thanks for all the replies. I appreciate the help and adcice. I'm going to check out the HP Omnibook (and I'll report back here), but I'm thinking that a used 701c or Libretto might fit the bill, with the edge toward the 701c because the screen is bigger and the butterfly keyboard is cool. :-) The TP235/ Ricoh Magio looks very nice but is over my budget. Does anyone know if the disk from the 385XD will fit in the 701c, with or without an adaptor? And another tip for airline travelers: if you need the room and can't get the emergency row seats, you can also try for a bulkhead row. Regards, Henry -- Henry M. Benson hmbtech@pobox.com HMB Technologies, Inc. Belmont, MA Voice: 617-484-1845 Fax: 617-249-0419 http://www.pobox.com/~hmbtech Consulting services in ATE design-to-test, software infrastructure and development From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 30 14:30:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA15786 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:30:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02960; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:29:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:27:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02711; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:27:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mayn.de (qmailr@airbus.mayn.de [194.95.209.24]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02695; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 12919 invoked from network); 30 Jan 1999 19:30:27 -0000 Received: from wuff.mayn.de (qmailr@194.95.209.17) by airbus.mayn.de with SMTP; 30 Jan 1999 19:30:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 13044 invoked by uid 5); 30 Jan 1999 19:26:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990130192617.13043.qmail@wuff.mayn.de> Received: from fred by bedrock.mayn.de (UUPC/extended 1.13b) with SMTP for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 22:26:01 +0100 From: "Rainer Feuerstein" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 22:26:01 +0100 (MEZ) Reply-To: "Rainer Feuerstein" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Boot from CD-ROM List-Unsubscribe: Hi! Are the newer TP models (e.g. 770) capable of booting from CD-ROM? My 760ED isn't, and it seems as if there's no BIOS upgrade available to provide this feature. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 30 14:40:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA15888 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04083; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:40:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:38:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03885; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03861; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:38:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901301938.OAA03861@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Sun, 29 Jan 1989 12:34:25 -0800 (PST) From: "Victor Kress" To: "Rainer Feuerstein" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:37:46 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Boot from CD-ROM List-Unsubscribe: The 600 does, but you have to go into EZsetup and add the CDROM to the boot list. On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 22:26:01 +0100 (MEZ), Rainer Feuerstein wrote: >Hi! > >Are the newer TP models (e.g. 770) capable of booting from CD-ROM? >My 760ED isn't, and it seems as if there's no BIOS upgrade available to provide this feature. > > ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 30 15:44:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA16595 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 15:44:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06754; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 15:44:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 30 Jan 1999 15:41:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06501; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 15:41:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06462; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 15:40:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from kramer.ne.mediaone.net (kramer.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.125.14]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA24793 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 15:40:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36B36E5B.EB9F781@kramer.ne.mediaone.net> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 15:40:59 -0500 From: David Kramer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad mailing list Subject: Can my 755C take any 2.5" drive? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I didn't get a lot of help on my last question (upgrading BIOS w/o a bettery). All the answers were either "You shouldn't do it in case you lose power" (I have a UPS so that's not an issue) or "Go ahead and try it! What are the odds of losing power in the minute it takes to upgrade" (I agree, but the software won't let you do anything but exit without a charged battery). As the originator of the thread, I would like to declare the horse beaten. Thank you all for trying, though. My second question went unanswered though, and I would like to try again on that on, because there's a Ken Gordon computer show coming up next weekend. If I manage to upgrade the BIOS in my 755C (9545-F0E), can I put any old 2.5" IDE drive that will fit, or does the BIOS only grok certain drive geometries, or does it need to be IBM "blessed"? As I would like to get the hard drive next weekend, a quick consensus would be greatly appreciated. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- DDDD David Kramer david@kramer.ne.mediaone.net DK KD http://start.at/david.kramer DKK D Sure, there are things in the sky that we can't identify. DK KD But there are things in my refrigerator that I can't identify. DDDD That doesn't mean they're space alien leftovers. -Penn Jillette From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 30 15:57:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA16729 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 15:57:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07545; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 15:57:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 30 Jan 1999 15:56:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07368; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 15:56:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (cave@cavecreations.com [192.41.27.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07353; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 15:56:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id NAA18290; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:56:09 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:56:09 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199901302056.NAA18290@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TI 1130 Cardbus controller List-Unsubscribe: Can anyone confirm whether or not my Thinkpad 600E has a TI 1130 Cardbus controller? I just got my Iomega Clik! Plus drive, and have not been able to get the drive running under NT or Linux... in the Troubleshooting guide, it warns that the PC Card adapter is not compatible with the TI 1130 Cardbus controller, and I'm getting a sinking feeling it's true. -Al -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998,1999 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 30 16:22:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA17063 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:22:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08448; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:21:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08347; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:21:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08334; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:21:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901302121.QAA08334@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Sun, 29 Jan 1989 14:17:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Victor Kress" To: "Albert C. Lee" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:21:00 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TI 1130 Cardbus controller List-Unsubscribe: Linux probes my 600 as a TI 1250A. On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:56:09 -0700 (MST), Albert C. Lee wrote: >Can anyone confirm whether or not my Thinkpad 600E has a TI 1130 >Cardbus controller? > >I just got my Iomega Clik! Plus drive, and have not been able to get >the drive running under NT or Linux... in the Troubleshooting guide, >it warns that the PC Card adapter is not compatible with the TI 1130 >Cardbus controller, and I'm getting a sinking feeling it's true. > >-Al > > >-- >Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com >(c) 1998,1999 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. > ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 30 17:09:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA17490 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:09:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10696; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:07:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10552; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:07:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigun.c-gate.net (IDENT:root@bigun.c-gate.net [207.120.210.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10538; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:07:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from egiles (pm1wayne1-25.c-gate.net [198.79.69.158]) by bigun.c-gate.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA18454 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:07:03 -0600 Message-ID: <001001be4c9c$b9fe1c00$9e454fc6@egiles> From: "Eric Giles" To: Subject: Re: Boot from CD-ROM Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:06:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Yes, the 770 models that I have will boot from the CD-ROM/DVD drive. You just need to enter the BIOS setup and select it as the first boot device. Eric Giles >Hi! > >Are the newer TP models (e.g. 770) capable of booting from CD-ROM? >My 760ED isn't, and it seems as if there's no BIOS upgrade available to provide this feature. > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 30 17:55:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA18014 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:55:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11748; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:55:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:54:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11662; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11649; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:54:48 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from Arminvali@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 2IBDa01221 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:54:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:54:12 EST To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Thinkpad 365XD Utility disk Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 230 List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone know where I can download the utility disks for an IBM Thinkpad 365XD? I have 24RAM, 800Meg HD, CDROM, EXternal Floppy, sound card, I lost mine...Thanks From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 30 18:04:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA18116 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:04:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12117; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:03:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:03:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12013; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAD (smtp4.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11995; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:03:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:02:54 -0500 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (chi-qbu-nvn-vty74.as.wcom.net [209.154.112.74]) by dub-img-ims-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id SAA19985; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:02:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36B38F87.6C002693@csc.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:02:31 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rainer Feuerstein CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Boot from CD-ROM References: <19990130192617.13043.qmail@wuff.mayn.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: My 770 can boot from the CD-ROM. This is extremely helpful for installing NT direcly from the CD instead of making boot disks. This also works on the 600. HTH, Rob Rainer Feuerstein wrote: > > Hi! > > Are the newer TP models (e.g. 770) capable of booting from CD-ROM? > My 760ED isn't, and it seems as if there's no BIOS upgrade available to provide this feature. ----------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rob_bell@nospam@csi.com ----------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jan 30 23:06:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA21370 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:06:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19060; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:05:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18904; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:05:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.243]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18874; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from dell-xps-d300 (slip-32-100-85-11.ny.us.ibm.net [32.100.85.11]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA114538 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 04:04:43 GMT Message-ID: <005801be4ccf$18502780$0b556420@dell-xps-d300> Reply-To: "Steven R.Zuch" From: "Steven R.Zuch" To: Subject: New Thinkpad Keyboards Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:06:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0055_01BE4CA5.2DFD91A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01BE4CA5.2DFD91A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was never happy about my ThinkPad 760ED keyboard, and it appears to be = degrading with age. =20 My older 750Cs keyboard is much firmer, in comparison. How are the newer ThinkPad keyboards? Steven ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01BE4CA5.2DFD91A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was never happy about my ThinkPad = 760ED=20 keyboard, and it appears to be degrading with age. 
My older 750Cs keyboard is much = firmer, in=20 comparison.
 
How are the newer ThinkPad keyboards?
 
Steven
 
------=_NextPart_000_0055_01BE4CA5.2DFD91A0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 31 00:53:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA22369 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 00:52:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22436; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 00:52:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 00:51:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22333; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 00:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22320; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 00:51:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldg43.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.192.131]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA29144; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 00:51:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901310551.AAA29144@camel14.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Stephen A. Carter" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Cc: "Stephen A. Carter" Date: Sat, 30 Jan 99 21:51:05 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Where's www.tpwarper.com? List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:14:23 +0900, Stephen A. Carter wrote: >Does anybody know what's happened to Toyota Shrake's TPWarper web >site? Actually, it's Ty Shrake. Interesting, that it seems to be down... I even tried warpedthinkpad.simplenet.com, the original site, and it doesn't work either. You might try Dr. Martinus's Notebook/2 site - http://www.os2ss.com/users/drmartinus/notebook.htm This has information on almost ALL major brand notebooks, including ThinkPads, and which work best and WORST with OS/2. Quite informative for those shopping for a new notebook or specifically a ThinkPad, and looking to load Warp on it. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 31 07:22:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA25301 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09182; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:20:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09060; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:20:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from bdg.centrin.net.id (noffice@bdg.centrin.net.id [202.146.253.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09047; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:20:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from laptop ([202.146.253.111]) by bdg.centrin.net.id (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA5126 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:20:17 +0700 Message-ID: <00df01be4d12$ceadcf80$68fd92ca@laptop> From: "Adrian : Invio" To: Subject: Re: New Thinkpad Keyboards Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:58:33 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DA_01BE4D19.689A0CC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01BE4D19.689A0CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also own a 760ED. I bought it used, and I didn't notice how bad the = keyboard was. All the frequently used keys seem to very stiff if not = pressed exactly in the centre. On the other hand, the infrequently = (upper part of the keyboard) used keys seem okay. Has anyone else experienced the same problem? Is there any way to = repair this, short of purchasing a new keyboard? thanks Adrian -- =20 I was never happy about my ThinkPad 760ED keyboard, and it appears = to be degrading with age. =20 My older 750Cs keyboard is much firmer, in comparison. =20 How are the newer ThinkPad keyboards? =20 Steven =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01BE4D19.689A0CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I also own a 760ED. I bought it = used, and I=20 didn't notice how bad the keyboard was.  All the frequently used = keys seem=20 to very stiff if not pressed exactly in the centre.  On the other = hand, the=20 infrequently (upper part of the keyboard) used keys seem = okay.
 
Has anyone else experienced the same problem?  = Is there=20 any way to repair this, short of purchasing a new keyboard?
 
 
thanks
 
 
Adrian
 
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I was never happy about my = ThinkPad 760ED=20 keyboard, and it appears to be degrading with age.  =
My older 750Cs keyboard is much = firmer, in=20 comparison.
 
How are the newer ThinkPad = keyboards?
 
Steven
 
------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01BE4D19.689A0CC0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 31 07:41:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA25448 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:41:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09704; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:41:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:40:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09588; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09575; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:40:46 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from JES770@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 3VQKa26290; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:39:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <49866631.36b44f07@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:39:35 EST To: pkhoury@mindspring.com Cc: "Stephen A. Carter" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Where's www.tpwarper.com? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 1/31/99 1:00:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, pkhoury@mindspring.com writes: > On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:14:23 +0900, Stephen A. Carter wrote: > > >Does anybody know what's happened to Toyota Shrake's TPWarper web > >site? > > Actually, it's Ty Shrake. Interesting, that it seems to be down... > > I even tried warpedthinkpad.simplenet.com, the original site, and it doesn't > work either. Try: http://dragon-master.dragonfire.net/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 31 09:27:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA26176 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:27:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11310; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:27:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:26:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11179; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:26:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from sl001.infi.net (sl001.infi.net [205.219.238.210]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11166; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:25:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jimb@localhost) by sl001.infi.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25806; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:17:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:17:40 -0500 (EST) From: James Biggerstaff To: David Kramer cc: thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: Can my 755C take any 2.5" drive? In-Reply-To: <36B36E5B.EB9F781@kramer.ne.mediaone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I put an IBM 5.1 GB drive in my 755C several months ago. At first it would not work, then I took a DEEP breath and removed the drive selection pins from the drive, and it worked fine. That's one data point, I dunno if the method I used is the only one that will work. Good luck. jim Jim Biggerstaff jimb@infi.net Norfolk, Virginia, USA ======================================================================== These profound insights are NOT freeware. If found useful, please send money within 30 days. ======================================================================== From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 31 10:01:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA26432 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:01:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11996; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:01:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:00:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11872; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com (smtp2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.32]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11858; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:00:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl (user-38h1uf1.dialup.mindspring.com [209.16.249.225]) by smtp2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA31101 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:00:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990131095935.009037b0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:59:35 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: New Thinkpad Keyboards In-Reply-To: <00df01be4d12$ceadcf80$68fd92ca@laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:58 PM 1/31/99 +0700, Adrian : Invio wrote: >> I also own a 760ED. I bought it used, and I didn't notice how bad the keyboard was. All the frequently used keys seem to very stiff if not pressed exactly in the centre. On the other hand, the infrequently (upper part of the keyboard) used keys seem okay. Has anyone else experienced the same problem? Is there any way to repair this, short of purchasing a new keyboard? >> The 760ED should still be covered under its 3-year warranty. Why would you have to buy a new keyboard? Just send it in for service. In the US, call 800.772.2227 with the serial number handy to arrange it. Please turn off the HTML in your e-mails to the list. It just makes a mess that many will not bother to try to read, and you limit your potential pool of answers. Thanks - Jane From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 31 13:27:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA27834 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:27:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19789; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:27:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:25:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19393; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:25:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate1.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19367; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:25:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from paddy (mg131-013.ricochet.net [204.179.131.13]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA07889; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:25:12 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Steven R.Zuch" , Subject: RE: New Thinkpad Keyboards Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:25:08 -0800 Message-ID: <001501be4d47$08515fc0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <005801be4ccf$18502780$0b556420@dell-xps-d300> List-Unsubscribe: > I was never happy about my ThinkPad 760ED keyboard, and it > appears to be degrading with age. > My older 750Cs keyboard is much firmer, in comparison. > > How are the newer ThinkPad keyboards? I've got a 760E and a couple of 600's here. The difference is like night and day: the 600 has a much better keyboard. However, you can improve your 760ED keyboard significantly by getting it replaced with a new one. It's free under warranty, and when it goes out of warranty it's only about a $50 part if I recall right, and it looks like it's easy to replace it yourself. The original keyboard on my used 760E was pretty unusable, but when I got it replaced it's pretty reasonable now. Just not in the same league as the 600's excellent keyboard. -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 31 13:43:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA27957 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:43:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23395; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:43:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:42:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23179; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:42:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [207.211.168.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23159; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:42:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from wabio (user-38ld1o2.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.135.2]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA04276 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:41:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990131134130.00a278f0@mail.newsguy.com> X-Sender: wicket@mail.newsguy.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:41:39 -0500 To: From: Alan Wong Subject: FS: 32mb SO-DIMM SDRAM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I have forsale a brand new IBM TP Options 32 mb SDRAM SODIMM memory module forsale. 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Thanks, Alan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 31 14:05:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA28145 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:05:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26094; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:03:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25625; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:03:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcom6.netcom.com (phr@netcom6.netcom.com [192.100.81.114]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25591; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:03:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom6.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id LAA11203 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:03:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:03:48 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199901311903.LAA11203@netcom6.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: can 755c take any 2.5" drive? List-Unsubscribe: The normal ibm drive caddies will take drives up to 17mm thick. Normal "full height" 2.5" drives are 19mm thick and won't fit. You can modify the caddy to squeeze the thicker drive in, but these days you can get 12.5mm thick drives in all but the highest capacities, so that's probably the simplest thing to do. I'm not sure about the bios issue; but there's a significant chance you'll need a bios upgrade to use drives > 540 meg. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 31 14:39:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA28454 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:39:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00967; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:39:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:37:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00788; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:37:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00775; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic30.fbtc.net [204.2.11.30]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA16311; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:37:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005701be4d50$9eeff140$1e0b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: , Subject: Re: Thinkpad 365XD Utility disk Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:33:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: You can get them from IBM's site. I don't have the exact URL and it's a big site. But it never takes me more than a few minutes to locate stuff for my 365XD. They do have the utility disks. Barry -----Original Message----- From: Arminvali@aol.com To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 4:54 PM Subject: Thinkpad 365XD Utility disk >Does anyone know where I can download the utility disks for an IBM Thinkpad >365XD? I have 24RAM, 800Meg HD, CDROM, EXternal Floppy, sound card, >I lost mine...Thanks > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jan 31 23:34:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA04541 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:34:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17240; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:33:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:32:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17102; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (lucy.az.com [204.201.18.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17089; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:32:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from seawesta-106.az.com (seawesta-106.az.com [204.201.18.106]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA18437 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:32:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <199902010432.UAA18437@www.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Sun, 31 Jan 99 20:40:26 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thinkpad 365XD Utility disk List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:54:12 EST, Arminvali@aol.com wrote: >Does anyone know where I can download the utility disks for an IBM Thinkpad >365XD? I have 24RAM, 800Meg HD, CDROM, EXternal Floppy, sound card, >I lost mine...Thanks > Yes. The whole driver matrix is on the TP support page. But here is a quick link directly to the page: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3PLLKA.html You can generate just about any disk there. Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games