From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 1 04:25:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA07082 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 04:25:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA27480; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 04:25:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 04:24:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA27347; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 04:24:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA27267; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 04:23:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (Unknown@tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA29671; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:24:38 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199902010824.LAA29671@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "David Kramer" , "James Biggerstaff" Cc: "thinkpad mailing list" Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 11:22:36 -0200 (IZM) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Can my 755C take any 2.5" drive? 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From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 1 06:11:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA07745 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:11:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA08032; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:10:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:10:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07923; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:10:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from deimos.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de (deimos.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.17.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07910; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:09:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hal.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (hal.cl-ki.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.141.2]) by deimos.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA59556 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:09:52 +0100 Received: from leon.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (leon.cl-ki.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.141.232]) by hal.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA20068 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 13:09:51 +0200 Received: from localhost (krumeich@localhost) by leon.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA00676 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:02:07 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: leon.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de: krumeich owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:02:07 +0100 (MET) From: Alexander Krumeich Reply-To: Alexander Krumeich To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: MP3s and battery consumption In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Barry, >I don't play mp3 files on the laptop though. I suspect that would be >rough on battery life. not at all. On my TP600 (P233, 64 MB, Linux 2.0.35 and x11amp) playing MP3s is hardly a strain on the battery. During a longish train trip yesterday, I played MP3s for two hours and the battery was still at >60%. I have to admit that the lid was closed, so the display was turned off. I suppose it might make a difference to use the internal speakers instead of a Walkman headset. Usually, x11amp---which is comparable to Winamp---uses about 20% of the CPU's computing power. Alexander -- Alexander Krumeich http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ Never trust a HAL 9000 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 1 06:25:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA07840 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:25:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA08531; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:25:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:24:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA08404; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:24:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from valis.olywa.net (olywa.net [205.163.58.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA08391; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:24:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from psynet.net ([208.1.124.114]) by valis.olywa.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-56662U5000L500S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 03:24:18 -0800 Message-ID: <36B58F02.24BCF7DD@psynet.net> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 03:24:51 -0800 From: james Organization: ~*~ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: sending... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: ...warm energy to each of you. its all techtalk here, but under is good people who help each other. just thought I'd say that, as we whirl into the unknowable, keeping our science for comfort; may we enrich those around us, by trusting our inner truth. be well From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 1 11:30:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA12616 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:30:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAB23575; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:29:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:27:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23432; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:27:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer2.mail.vanderbilt.edu (mailer2.mail.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.1.212]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23342; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:27:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from vanderbilt.edu (A162123.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.162.123]) by mailer2.mail.vanderbilt.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/VU-3.0.2) with ESMTP id KAA04493; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:27:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <36B470B2.8AC7E9FE@vanderbilt.edu> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:03:15 +0800 From: Ruby Lestari X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,id,zh,ja,ko MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Krumeich CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: MP3s and battery consumption References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: and where can we get that x11amp....?? and is it any better than winamp...?? Thanks. lruby Alexander Krumeich wrote: > Barry, > > >I don't play mp3 files on the laptop though. I suspect that would be > >rough on battery life. > > not at all. On my TP600 (P233, 64 MB, Linux 2.0.35 and x11amp) playing > MP3s is hardly a strain on the battery. During a longish train trip > yesterday, I played MP3s for two hours and the battery was still at >60%. > I have to admit that the lid was closed, so the display was turned off. I > suppose it might make a difference to use the internal speakers instead of > a Walkman headset. > > Usually, x11amp---which is comparable to Winamp---uses about 20% of the > CPU's computing power. > > Alexander > > -- > Alexander Krumeich > http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ > > Never trust a HAL 9000 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 1 15:24:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA16084 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:24:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09568; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:24:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:23:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09452; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:23:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailbox.univie.ac.at (mailbox.univie.ac.at [131.130.1.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09432; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:23:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from ai.univie.ac.at (uvo-31.univie.ac.at [131.130.230.31]) by mailbox.univie.ac.at (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id VAA24388 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:23:35 +0100 Message-ID: <36B60D59.A223FA25@ai.univie.ac.at> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:23:53 +0100 From: Johannes =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=FCrnkranz?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: de-AT,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RingCentral Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I tried to install RingCentral 4.10.97 that came pre-installed on my ThinkPad 600 on my wife's ThinkPad 380 because I don't really need it on the 600. Didn't work. After the installation, RingCentral boots up it's Setup Wizard, and this is not able to detect her modem. I can try to manually re-install the modem but that doesn't work either. Maybe the problem is that the Modem is installed on COM3 but I'm not sure. Any ideas? Thanks, Juffi From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 1 15:26:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA16124 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:26:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09410; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:23:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:19:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09130; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:19:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (IDENT:kim@fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09107; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:19:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA32273 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:19:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:19:17 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpads in space In-Reply-To: <36b2ab41.163069984@post.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: http://cnn.com/TECH/computing/9902/01/space.lan.idg/index.html -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 1 15:30:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA16186 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:30:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10351; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:29:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:28:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10068; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:28:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.netlinq.nl (IDENT:root@www.netlinq.nl [195.109.135.151]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10034; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:28:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from netlinq.nl (adsl-145-99-66-99.snelnet.nl [145.99.66.99]) by www.netlinq.nl (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA04517; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:28:26 +0100 Message-ID: <36B60E81.B569F092@netlinq.nl> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:28:49 +0100 From: Jeroen Elfferich Reply-To: jeroen@netlinq.nl Organization: http://www.netlinq.nl/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Williams" , ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: 770X - first impressions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi John, > Hi, I just got the 770ED. I have a few questions for your. I find the > modem to be slow even after installing the upgrades. I may get an > integrated Lan + Modem card (a few people have recommended Xircom Realport > or 3Com. What has your experience been? Well I have got ADSL through an ethernet adapter at home and use the LAN at work for my internet mostly, so I only use the modem occassionally - and I haven't owned a 56k before so I don't really know what the speed should be like. It doesn't seem to be much speedier than what I was used to before (28k8) but it does the work I guess. > Also, did you get the docking station? I got the Selectabase bundled with > my system (IBM has a rebate offer). Nope, not yet. And if I do, I'll get because the Selectadock requires the Selectabase - the Selectabase itself doesn't offer that much to me. > I plan on adding SCSI to my system but I would like to keep everything > portable. I was thinking about Adaptec APA-1480 but I see conflicting > information on the IBM website about it. What are your plans? Well if I was going to get SCSI, I would get it primarily for speedy access to large capacity harddrives in the Selectadock (harddisk recording etc.). I've read some discussions about Adaptec SCSI cards and its compatibility in Thinkpads, but don't quite remember the outcome. Maybe should ask the ThinkPad Mailing List (thinkpad@cs.utk.edu), there are a lot of knowledgeable 770 users there. Enjoy your Thinkpad! Jeroen From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 1 17:47:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA18749 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:47:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20033; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:47:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:45:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19883; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:45:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19866; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:45:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (txmia1-87.gate.net [207.234.163.87]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA124748; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:45:43 -0500 Message-ID: <36B62E87.409F576A@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:45:27 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Adrian : Invio" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: New Thinkpad Keyboards References: <00df01be4d12$ceadcf80$68fd92ca@laptop> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3B25C62A64B183815403394A" List-Unsubscribe: --------------3B25C62A64B183815403394A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If the machine is still under warranty, the keyboard will be replaced under warranty.. otherwise, a new keyboard can be bought for about $55 and it is not too tricky for most anyone to swap them out.. this is a well known problem with the 76x series.. Adrian : Invio wrote: > I also own a 760ED. I bought it used, and I didn't notice how bad the > keyboard was. All the frequently used keys seem to very stiff if not > pressed exactly in the centre. On the other hand, the infrequently > (upper part of the keyboard) used keys seem okay. Has anyone else > experienced the same problem? Is there any way to repair this, short > of purchasing a new keyboard? thanks Adrian > > --I was never happy about my ThinkPad 760ED keyboard, and it > appears to be degrading with age.My older 750Cs keyboard is > much firmer, in comparison. How are the newer ThinkPad > keyboards? Steven > -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. --------------3B25C62A64B183815403394A Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If the machine is still under warranty, the keyboard will be replaced under warranty..
otherwise, a new keyboard can be bought for about $55 and it is not too tricky for most anyone to swap them out..

this is a well known problem with the 76x series..

Adrian : Invio wrote:

 I also own a 760ED. I bought it used, and I didn't notice how bad the keyboard was.  All the frequently used keys seem to very stiff if not pressed exactly in the centre.  On the other hand, the infrequently (upper part of the keyboard) used keys seem okay. Has anyone else experienced the same problem?  Is there any way to repair this, short of purchasing a new keyboard?  thanks  Adrian 
--I was never happy about my ThinkPad 760ED keyboard, and it appears to be degrading with age.My older 750Cs keyboard is much firmer, in comparison. How are the newer ThinkPad keyboards? Steven 
 

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Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
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Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html
bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net
770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al...

Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a
closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home..
  --------------3B25C62A64B183815403394A-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 1 20:13:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA20793 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:13:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26875; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:13:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:12:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26778; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:12:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.skyinet.net (NEWS.SKYINET.NET [206.101.197.231]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26762; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:12:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([208.162.6.109]) by news.skyinet.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-56465U40000L40000S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:11:06 +0800 Message-ID: <005601be4e4a$46a64200$6d06a2d0@default> From: "J. Carlos M. Sibal" To: Subject: Re: is thinkpad 770ed DVD drive capable of DAO Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:20:50 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: 1. Is the DVD-ROM drive in the 770ed capable of Digital Audio Extraction using CD-R software? Anyone have any experience using it for this purpose? 2. Is it possible to use MPEG-2 software to watch DVD movies on the 770ed w/o the video enhancer? the 770 model i'm thinking of is the P2/266 model. thanks, carlos -----Original Message----- From: owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU To: thinkpad-digest-recipients:; Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 1:16 AM Subject: thinkpad digest for Sat, 30 Jan 1999 >Submissions for the thinkpad list should be sent to thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > >(When replying, please edit your Subject line so that it doesn't say: >"Re: thinkpad digest for...") > >To subscribe or unsubscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 1 20:33:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA21050 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:33:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27854; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:33:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:32:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27762; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27740; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgoldman.vip.best.com (adsl-216-101-170-226.dsl.pacbell.net [216.101.170.226]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id RAA17321 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:30:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990201172649.00b69780@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:30:50 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Y2K, NT SP4 and Thinkpads Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I seem to recall that the NT Service Pack 4 caused problems when installed on IBM Thinkpads. I don't recall if I saw this warning on this list or on the IBM Thinkpad web site. I also don't recall if the problem is specific to some models of the Thinkpad or to the entire line. I'm running a TP 380z (P-II, 300Mhz, 96MB) with OS/2 and NT. Can anybody provide an authoritative source for installing (or not installing) this service pack? According to this weeks issue of "InfoWorld", SP 4 is **REQUIRED** to achieve Y2K compatibility. Any ideas? -- David Goldman From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 1 21:45:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA22028 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:44:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01041; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:44:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:43:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00927; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:43:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp0-alterdial.uu.net (smtp0-alterdial.UU.NET [192.48.96.28]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00914; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibm600e by smtp0-alterdial.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: 1Cust24.tnt14.chi5.da.uu.net [153.36.172.24]) id QQgatm19736; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 02:43:36 GMT Message-ID: <199902012139530269.0009109A@mail77195.smtpserver.pop.net> In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990201172649.00b69780@shell9.ba.best.com> References: <4.1.19990201172649.00b69780@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 2.40.41.04 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:39:53 -0500 From: "Michael Mahoney" To: dgoldman@best.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Y2K, NT SP4 and Thinkpads Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: David, I had a problem with the video driver. I use a 600E with th Neomagic 256av= driver. Microsoft had a hotfix that worked to clear it up. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 2/2/99, at 1:33 AM, David Goldman wrote: >I seem to recall that the NT Service Pack 4 caused problems >when installed on IBM Thinkpads. I don't recall if I saw this >warning on this list or on the IBM Thinkpad web site. I also >don't recall if the problem is specific to some models of the >Thinkpad or to the entire line. > >I'm running a TP 380z (P-II, 300Mhz, 96MB) with OS/2 and NT. >Can anybody provide an authoritative source for installing >(or not installing) this service pack? According to this >weeks issue of "InfoWorld", SP 4 is **REQUIRED** to achieve >Y2K compatibility. > >Any ideas? > >-- >David Goldman Michael Mahoney mahoneym@pop.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 1 22:37:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA22633 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:37:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03426; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:36:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:35:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03330; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:35:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03310; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:35:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic67.fbtc.net [204.2.11.67]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA29095; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:35:07 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005201be4e5c$7de574e0$430b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "Alexander Krumeich" , Subject: Re: MP3s and battery consumption Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:31:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Thanks for the info. But I'm curious. What is the purpose of using the Thinkpad for mp3's in the car? I usually listen to tapes or cd's in the car. I can make my own tapes or cd's. This seems so much simpler, safer and cheaper. Also, I've read that keeping the top closed with the computer running is hard on the screen since it's exposed to heat. Barry -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Krumeich To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 11:02 AM Subject: MP3s and battery consumption >Barry, > >>I don't play mp3 files on the laptop though. I suspect that would be >>rough on battery life. > >not at all. On my TP600 (P233, 64 MB, Linux 2.0.35 and x11amp) playing >MP3s is hardly a strain on the battery. During a longish train trip >yesterday, I played MP3s for two hours and the battery was still at >60%. >I have to admit that the lid was closed, so the display was turned off. I >suppose it might make a difference to use the internal speakers instead of >a Walkman headset. > >Usually, x11amp---which is comparable to Winamp---uses about 20% of the >CPU's computing power. > > Alexander > >-- >Alexander Krumeich >http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ > >Never trust a HAL 9000 > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 00:09:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA23723 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:09:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08327; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:09:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:08:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08225; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:08:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from bdg.centrin.net.id (noffice@bdg.centrin.net.id [202.146.253.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08209; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:08:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from laptop ([202.146.253.102]) by bdg.centrin.net.id (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA3080 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:07:23 +0700 Message-ID: <001701be4e68$a875a480$66fd92ca@laptop> From: "Adrian : Invio" To: Subject: Closed Screen, (was MP3s and battery consumption) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:57:14 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: >Also, I've read that keeping the top closed with the computer running is >hard on the screen since it's exposed to heat. > >Barry > Lets say I wish to use my TP 760ED as a desktop, using an attached keyboard and Monitor. Should I open the screen or keep it closed? thanks Adrian From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 02:53:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA25162 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 02:53:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15209; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 02:53:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 02:52:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15112; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 02:52:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.noc.netcom.net (mail2.noc.netcom.net [199.183.9.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15091; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 02:52:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from denver.servicemetrics.com (denver.servicemetrics.com [206.247.247.100]) by mail2.noc.netcom.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA13393; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:22:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssh by denver.servicemetrics.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA09570; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:08:12 -0700 From: "Steve Hultquist" To: "Adrian : Invio" Cc: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Subject: RE: Closed Screen, (was MP3s and battery consumption) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:12:54 -0700 Message-ID: <000b01be4e73$1226f0a0$54f7f7ce@ssh.servicemetrics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <001701be4e68$a875a480$66fd92ca@laptop> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: You can do it either way. I leave it closed. Just make sure you check the little box in the configuration tool that sets the machine to *not* suspend when you close it! BTW, if you close it, your LCD isn't on, so the life may be longer. ssh >-----Original Message----- >From: Adrian : Invio [mailto:invio@mindless.com] >Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 9:57 PM >To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Closed Screen, (was MP3s and battery consumption) > > > >>Also, I've read that keeping the top closed with the computer running is >>hard on the screen since it's exposed to heat. >> >>Barry >> > >Lets say I wish to use my TP 760ED as a desktop, using an attached keyboard >and Monitor. Should I open the screen or keep it closed? > >thanks > >Adrian > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 03:03:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA25239 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 03:03:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15767; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 03:03:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 03:02:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15681; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 03:02:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from lut.fi (root@lut.fi [157.24.10.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15425; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 02:59:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.scp.fi (mail.scp.fi [157.24.202.2]) by lut.fi (8.8.8/8.7.1/1.20.kim) with ESMTP id JAA17416; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:59:54 +0200 (EET) (for ) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Saarinen Seppo" MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: 2 Feb 1999 09:52:00 +0200 Subject: subscribe Envelope-ID: JA8AAAAAACXBKQABYQABeo5bwr9U@mail.scp.fi Message-Id: Content-Language: FI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: Subscribe seppo.saarinen@mail.scp.fi From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 04:23:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA25818 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 04:23:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19528; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 04:23:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 04:22:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19417; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 04:22:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from toledo.ai.univie.ac.at (toledo.ai.univie.ac.at [192.76.244.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19382; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 04:22:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ai.univie.ac.at (westbahn.ai.univie.ac.at [192.76.244.187]) by toledo.ai.univie.ac.at (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18836 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:21:55 +0100 (MET) Sender: juffi@mail4.ai.univie.ac.at Message-ID: <36B6C3B1.EE438828@ai.univie.ac.at> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 10:21:53 +0100 From: Johannes Fuernkranz Organization: OeFAI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 600: docked LINUX problems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi everybody, I just got my SelectaBase 600, which is nice, but I have a problem with my LINUX partition (Red Hat 5.1. Manhattan): LINUX boots up fine, but when it starts X, it automatically switches from external monitor to LCD, even though the ThinkPad is closed. It always did that. The nuisance now is: When I open the ThinkPad to switch to external monitor with "Fn F7" and then close it again, it Auto-Suspends. Basically, I only have the option of working with an open docked TP, which is not why I bought the SelectaBase. So here's my questions: * Can I get rid of the problem that it switches from external to LCD display when starting X? * Is there a way to perform the "Fn F7" keystroke from an external keyboard? * Can I turn off auto-suspend (I guess that should be possible by recompiling the kernel)? Many thanks, Juffi PS: I also never got my external monitor (a Philips 17C or some such) to run with 70Hz, as it does under Windows. I can only manage the 60Hz. Any ideas on that? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 08:25:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA27470 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:25:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02948; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:24:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:23:47 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02818; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:23:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id IAA29685 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:23:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibm.chem.surrey.ac.uk (ibm.chem.surrey.ac.uk [131.227.184.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19368; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 04:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from chempcpbk.chem.surrey.ac.uk by ibm.chem.surrey.ac.uk (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15356; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:13:58 GMT From: "Peter B Karadakov" To: Subject: 770x 'hiss' at 'low' and 'medium' processor speed settings Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:19:35 -0000 Message-Id: <000901be4e8d$26b1e2e0$1bb8e383@chempcpbk.chem.surrey.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I wonder if anyone else has experienced the following (small?) problem with the 770 series (in fact, I have the 770x 7AU model). At 'low' and 'medium' processor speed settings, under win 98, I hear a slight hiss coming from the vicinity of the microphone (or top left end of keyboard), whenever I press a key or move a window. This 'hiss' is not there at 'high' speed, it is not present in DOS, under any power mode, and I cannot hear it while doing any of the tests in the BIOS, which should put to exercise everything within the box. The 'hiss' is present, however, even under Windows 98 safe mode (which seems to exclude the video adapter from the equation). It appears for the first time while win 98 is loading, just before the desktop becomes visible. The noise is none of the normal hard-disk/fan noises. IBM are suggesting that I should have the machine serviced, but I am not sure that this is a hardware problem. Opinions and advice would be much appreciated. Regards, Peter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 08:46:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA27671 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:46:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04982; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:45:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:45:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04750; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:44:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (cave@cavecreations.com [192.41.27.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04737; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:44:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id GAA09197; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 06:44:49 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 06:44:49 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199902021344.GAA09197@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Recovery CD help! List-Unsubscribe: Well... I decided last night that I had it with Windows NT4... the device support is just so terrible, I can't take it anymore. So I want to recover Win98 using the recovery CD. The only thing is I have 4 other partitions I need to keep intact. Windows NT is currently residing on drive C: which has 500 mb of space, formatted NTFS. Is this going to be enough space to recover the CD in? What else should I be aware of? Thanks for any help you can provide. -Al -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998,1999 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 11:05:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA29306 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:05:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14069; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:05:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:04:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13919; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:04:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13896; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:03:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-155.usc.edu [128.125.223.155]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id IAA20215; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:01:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990202075333.00a7f420@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 08:00:53 -0800 To: "Albert C. Lee" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Recovery CD help! In-Reply-To: <199902021344.GAA09197@cavecreations.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 06:44 AM 2/2/99 -0700, you wrote: >Well... I decided last night that I had it with Windows NT4... the >device support is just so terrible, I can't take it anymore. So I >want to recover Win98 using the recovery CD. The only thing is I have >4 other partitions I need to keep intact. > >Windows NT is currently residing on drive C: which has 500 mb of >space, formatted NTFS. Is this going to be enough space to recover >the CD in? > >What else should I be aware of? I'm not sure which TP you have, but on my TP 600 I did something similar just a few months ago: 1) Get everything off that first partition that you want to keep. 2) Format that first partition to FAT (Regular FAT--FAT16). 3) Do the regular install routine for the recovery CD, but tell it you only want to wipe out the initial partition (C Drive), rather than the whole hard disk. Here's the problem: Step 2 is tough. I've been told Partition Magic may do it, but the way it goes about things may not suffice for the recovery CD program. Try it and see. Otherwise, you *can't* initialize the primary partition on a HD without wiping out the whole HD--which means you'll need to get your data in the other partitions off too. The reason for the re-format? I was told by EZ-serve 2nd-level tech support that the recovery CD program would not work on a FAT32 partition (and I presume the same would be the case for your NTFS partition). Hence the need to have it formatted for FAT16. They assured me also that Partition Magic wouldn't work--that it would do it, but does so in a way that programs like IBM's recovery CD program would see it as a "Non-DOS" disk, which is just as bad. It needs to see it as a FAT16. If it does so, then you run the recovery CD in a way that it wipes out only the first partition. If not, then you have to have it wipe out the whole HD or not run the recovery at all. - Randy From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 11:25:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA29555 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:25:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15733; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:24:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:23:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15619; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:23:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out-0.tiac.net (mail-out-0.tiac.net [199.0.65.247]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15570; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:23:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out-1.tiac.net (mail-out-1.tiac.net [199.0.65.12]) by mail-out-0.tiac.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28583 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:23:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ecottrell@Doble.com) Received: from ntmail.doble.com (ntmail.doble.com [204.215.186.11]) by mail-out-1.tiac.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA02219 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by ntmail.doble.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BE4E9E.249B2820@ntmail.doble.com>; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:21:13 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'Albert C. Lee'" , "'TP List'" , "'Randal Whittle'" Subject: RE: Recovery CD help! Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:21:12 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, If Mr Lee can get ahold of a bootable DOS disk with FDISK and system tools on it he could use that to create the Partition. Each of my systems has a "recovery disk" which is a floppy (or floppies) with DOS and the required drivers to have the CD drive work. There are utilities to partition and format disks. I also have a text editor and SYS on it as well. It is used in cases of upgrading or failure of the Hard Drive as my 365ED and other non-Thinkpad systems do not have a recovery CD. In Windows 95 you can make a bootable dos disk (Format A: /S) and copy some programs in the \Windows\Command to the floppy. I suppose you can do the same for Win98 as well. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com >---------- >From: Randal Whittle[SMTP:rwhittle@usa.net] >Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 11:00 AM >To: Albert C. Lee; TP List >Subject: Re: Recovery CD help! > >At 06:44 AM 2/2/99 -0700, you wrote: >>Well... I decided last night that I had it with Windows NT4... the >>device support is just so terrible, I can't take it anymore. So I >>want to recover Win98 using the recovery CD. The only thing is I have >>4 other partitions I need to keep intact. >> >>Windows NT is currently residing on drive C: which has 500 mb of >>space, formatted NTFS. Is this going to be enough space to recover >>the CD in? >> >>What else should I be aware of? > > I'm not sure which TP you have, but on my TP 600 I did something similar >just a few months ago: > > 1) Get everything off that first partition that you want to keep. > > 2) Format that first partition to FAT (Regular FAT--FAT16). > > 3) Do the regular install routine for the recovery CD, but tell it you >only want to wipe out the initial partition (C Drive), rather than the >whole hard disk. > > Here's the problem: Step 2 is tough. I've been told Partition Magic may >do it, but the way it goes about things may not suffice for the recovery CD >program. Try it and see. Otherwise, you *can't* initialize the primary >partition on a HD without wiping out the whole HD--which means you'll need >to get your data in the other partitions off too. > > The reason for the re-format? I was told by EZ-serve 2nd-level tech >support that the recovery CD program would not work on a FAT32 partition >(and I presume the same would be the case for your NTFS partition). Hence >the need to have it formatted for FAT16. They assured me also that >Partition Magic wouldn't work--that it would do it, but does so in a way >that programs like IBM's recovery CD program would see it as a "Non-DOS" >disk, which is just as bad. It needs to see it as a FAT16. If it does so, >then you run the recovery CD in a way that it wipes out only the first >partition. If not, then you have to have it wipe out the whole HD or not >run the recovery at all. > >- Randy > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 13:53:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02030 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25471; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:52:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:50:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25281; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:50:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (cave@cavecreations.com [192.41.27.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25266; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:50:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id LAA09794; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:50:04 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:50:04 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199902021850.LAA09794@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: My Recovery CD experience List-Unsubscribe: Thanks to everyone who chipped in some advice about the Recovery CD. Well, everything went ok... until I found out that 500 mb doesn't cover the space needed to decompress all the files. 700 mb barely does it. So now I'm doing a recovery for the 3rd time... this time with 850 mb of space. A very important command to remember is the RESETC command. Keep that in the back of your head... should you ever abort the recovery CD (at ANY time), you need to run the RESETC command on the boot floppy. So far, on my Thinkpad 600E (300mhz), a restore seems to take about 25 minutes. Don't know where IBM gets this 2 hour figure from... but it's not so bad. I even venture to say that when you get a new system, go ahead and try out the recovery CD right away. It's good practice if you ever need it. We'll see how 98 does compared to NT. Whoops... the recovery just aborted saying there was a problem decompressing. ????? Oh well... gonna feed it some more space. -Al -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998,1999 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 13:59:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02173 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:59:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26105; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:59:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:58:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25863; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:58:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25833; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic49.fbtc.net [204.2.11.49]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA19421; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:54:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <009501be4edc$e8a8c9a0$310b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "Steve Hultquist" , "Adrian : Invio" Cc: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Subject: Re: Closed Screen, (was MP3s and battery consumption) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:50:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I had thought heat was a problem for the screen. Barry -----Original Message----- From: Steve Hultquist To: Adrian : Invio Cc: Thinkpad Mailing List Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 12:12 AM Subject: RE: Closed Screen, (was MP3s and battery consumption) >You can do it either way. I leave it closed. Just make sure you check the little >box in the configuration tool that sets the machine to *not* suspend when you >close it! > >BTW, if you close it, your LCD isn't on, so the life may be longer. > >ssh > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Adrian : Invio [mailto:invio@mindless.com] >>Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 9:57 PM >>To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >>Subject: Closed Screen, (was MP3s and battery consumption) >> >> >> >>>Also, I've read that keeping the top closed with the computer running is >>>hard on the screen since it's exposed to heat. >>> >>>Barry >>> >> >>Lets say I wish to use my TP 760ED as a desktop, using an attached keyboard >>and Monitor. Should I open the screen or keep it closed? >> >>thanks >> >>Adrian >> >> > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 14:29:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA02560 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:29:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28486; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:29:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:28:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28367; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:28:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28341; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:28:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad (client-118-170.bellatlantic.net [151.198.118.170]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA16353; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:27:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00a201be4ee2$097b3f00$aa76c697@thinkpad> From: "Don" To: "Albert C. Lee" , Subject: Re: My Recovery CD experience Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:27:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: You should have enough space already on the partition. The initial install on my 770ED takes no more than 500 megs of space. There have been problems with the recovery CD's giving an error message saying that there was a problem deompressing files. I found that at that point most files have been transferred albeit a few of the disk images from the diskette factory which can be found on the customization CD anyway. The workaround for me has been (after you receive the error message) is to boot with a Windows diskette and tranfer the system by entering "sys C:" command at the prompt. Then restart the system and windows will complete the installation. Don -----Original Message----- From: Albert C. Lee To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 1:54 PM Subject: My Recovery CD experience >Thanks to everyone who chipped in some advice about the Recovery CD. > >Well, everything went ok... until I found out that 500 mb doesn't >cover the space needed to decompress all the files. 700 mb barely >does it. So now I'm doing a recovery for the 3rd time... this time >with 850 mb of space. > >A very important command to remember is the RESETC command. Keep that >in the back of your head... should you ever abort the recovery CD (at >ANY time), you need to run the RESETC command on the boot floppy. > >So far, on my Thinkpad 600E (300mhz), a restore seems to take about 25 >minutes. Don't know where IBM gets this 2 hour figure from... but >it's not so bad. I even venture to say that when you get a new >system, go ahead and try out the recovery CD right away. It's good >practice if you ever need it. > >We'll see how 98 does compared to NT. > >Whoops... the recovery just aborted saying there was a problem >decompressing. ????? Oh well... gonna feed it some more space. > >-Al > > > >-- >Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com >(c) 1998,1999 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 14:40:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA02791 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29267; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:35:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29127; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:35:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29111; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:35:40 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from [158.152.181.205] (helo=bs28ha.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 107lbh-0002pe-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:35:33 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ThinkPad with 'butterfly' keyboard Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:34:20 GMT Message-ID: <36c05151.13422522@post.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: I'm looking for a TP with 'butterfly' keyboard. Which models have this? And, what would be a sensible price for theses used machines? Any ideas where to get one in the UK? Any advice would be most appreciated. Regards, Nick From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 15:31:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA03447 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:31:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03608; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:30:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:28:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03384; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03363; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:28:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (root@localhost) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28653 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:28:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from dts-jl (DTS_JL.uhc.com [10.145.181.71]) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA28619 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:27:49 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990202152656.00b6a100@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 15:26:56 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Closed Screen, (was MP3s and battery consumption) In-Reply-To: <009501be4edc$e8a8c9a0$310b02cc@cueve> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:50 PM 2/2/99 -0600, Barry Marks wrote: >I had thought heat was a problem for the screen. > Doesn't appear to be. So far, I've had a 755CE (2 years), a 760XL (18 months) and now a 600 (1 month). Others on my unit have had various 560s and 760s for 12-18 months. All of them have spent at least 8 hours a day Monday-Friday in port replicators or docking stations with the lid closed - no screen problems caused by heat that I'm aware of. In fact, the only screen problem that I know of was the denting problem with one of the 560s. Jane From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 16:39:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA04407 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:39:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09615; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:38:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:37:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09448; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:37:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.bctel.ca (mail1.bctel.ca [207.194.28.67]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09425; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:36:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from defiant (00-00-86-1d-bf-b1.bconnected.net [209.53.10.22]) by mail1.bctel.ca with SMTP id NAA09698; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:36:40 -0800 (PST) From: "Ryan Hung" To: "George Neurauter" , Subject: RE: Cleaning screens Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:36:56 -0800 Message-ID: <000401be4ef4$28581300$160a35d1@defiant.bconnected.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <001b01be4eea$45665240$63c57e82@big-man> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Well, I used to use 99% Isopropanol with Kim Wipes. However, water-dampened Kim Wipes with a trace amount of soap seems to work best on my TP600. I found that the alcohol would leave streak marks behind, possibly by solubilizing lipids/oils then evaporating too rapidly, leaving them behind. Ryan. > -----Original Message----- > From: George Neurauter [mailto:neurautr@uiuc.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 12:26 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Cleaning screens > > > I was wondering what you all do to clean your screens. My user manual said > to use a soft cloth (not alcohol-based cleaners which I was going to use). > What I did is buy a glasses lens cloth and it seems to work great with > fingerprint smudges. > > George Neurauter > neurautr@uiuc.edu > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 17:24:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA05252 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:24:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03611; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:30:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:26:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03253; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:26:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ux8.cso.uiuc.edu (root@ux8.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.44]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03217; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:26:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from big-man (crh4210.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.197.99]) by ux8.cso.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22513 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:26:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001b01be4eea$45665240$63c57e82@big-man> From: "George Neurauter" To: Subject: Cleaning screens Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:26:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I was wondering what you all do to clean your screens. My user manual said to use a soft cloth (not alcohol-based cleaners which I was going to use). What I did is buy a glasses lens cloth and it seems to work great with fingerprint smudges. George Neurauter neurautr@uiuc.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 18:22:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA06169 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:22:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16047; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:21:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:19:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15871; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (root@lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15851; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:19:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from chipie (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id BAA25136 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:19:40 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199902022319.BAA25136@lohi.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 01:18:47 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <36c05151.13422522@post.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: ThinkPad with 'butterfly' keyboard X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.52 List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 02 Feb 1999 at 07:34 PM you, , said: >I'm looking for a TP with 'butterfly' keyboard. Which models have this? AFAIK, it's the 701C and the 701Cs. See http://www-nrg.ee.lbl.gov/leres/butterfly/ for more details. >And, what would be a sensible price for theses used machines? Any ideas >where to get one in the UK? I think the going price for these machines (depending on CPU, RAM, HD and accessories) is around $400-600 in the US (no idea where to find it in the UK). HTH, Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 18:42:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA06452 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:42:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17127; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:42:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:41:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16997; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:41:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16983; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldgkj.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.194.147]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA12967; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:40:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902022340.SAA12967@smtp3.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "nick@bs28ha.demon.co.uk" Date: Tue, 02 Feb 99 15:40:33 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ThinkPad with 'butterfly' keyboard List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:34:20 GMT, nick@bs28ha.demon.co.uk wrote: >I'm looking for a TP with 'butterfly' keyboard. Which models have >this? And, what would be a sensible price for theses used machines? >Any ideas where to get one in the UK? > Only the 701C and CS. These machines come in either 486DX2-50 or 486DX4-75 flavors, with either active or dual scan LCDs. As for price, they all pretty much go from $200-$500, depends on the machine, what it comes with, condition, etc... Sometimes even more. Not sure of a source in the UK, but you might try eBay. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 18:56:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA06651 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:56:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18529; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:56:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:55:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18430; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:55:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAD (smtp4.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18406; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:55:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:54:53 -0500 Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (chi-qbu-nvm-vty97.as.wcom.net [209.154.111.97]) by dub-img-ims-2.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with ESMTP id SAA05849; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:54:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36B79029.C8AE5B81@csc.com> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:54:17 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Neurauter CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Cleaning screens References: <001b01be4eea$45665240$63c57e82@big-man> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have used alcohol-based monitor screen wipes on a 755Cs, 760EL, and a 770 over the last 4 years without problems. I suppose the screens get cleaned every couple of weeks (I try not to touch them, so they stay pretty clean). These wipes also work great for cleaning the entire keyboard area of ThinkPads and keyboards of desktop PCs. I have also started using a can of compressed air to blow the dust of the entire laptop every once in a while. HTH, Rob George Neurauter wrote: > > I was wondering what you all do to clean your screens. My user manual said > to use a soft cloth (not alcohol-based cleaners which I was going to use). > What I did is buy a glasses lens cloth and it seems to work great with > fingerprint smudges. > > George Neurauter > neurautr@uiuc.edu ----------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Consulting, Minneapolis, MN rbell1@csi.com ----------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 19:44:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA07345 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:44:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20449; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:44:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:42:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20322; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:42:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.mail.gol.com (smtp01.mail.gol.com [203.216.5.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20308; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:42:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from tc-1-105.nagoya.gol.ne.jp (tc-1-105.nagoya.gol.ne.jp [203.216.28.105]) by smtp01.mail.gol.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/892-SMTP-P) with SMTP id JAA18729; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:42:38 +0900 (JST) From: scarter@hticn.com (Stephen A. Carter) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: "Stephen A. Carter" Subject: Re: Cleaning screens Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 09:37:29 +0900 Organization: High-Tech Information Center Nagoya, Ltd., Nagoya, Japan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: References: <001b01be4eea$45665240$63c57e82@big-man> <36B79029.C8AE5B81@csc.com> In-Reply-To: <36B79029.C8AE5B81@csc.com> Lines: 22 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.27Beta [OS/2] List-Unsubscribe: In article <36B79029.C8AE5B81@csc.com>, Rob Bell wrote: >I have used alcohol-based monitor screen wipes on a 755Cs, 760EL, and a >770 over the last 4 years without problems. I avoid alcohol-based cleaners because I've heard they can cause yellowing of the screen over time, but I don't have any actual evidence or experience to support this. >I suppose the screens get >cleaned every couple of weeks (I try not to touch them, so they stay >pretty clean). Me too. Usually I just gently brush dust away with a soft cloth or a Kleenex. Occasionally I'll swab the screen with a moist cloth first, then wipe dry. Sometimes I run a slightly damp Q-Tip through the grooves between the keys to pick up dust and other gunk. -- Stephen A. Carter High-Tech Information Center Nagoya, Ltd. Nagoya, Japan PGP key ID: 0x59B4F7AD Be labz 9 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 21:14:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA08440 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:14:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01704; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:12:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01447; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:12:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com ([208.14.17.29]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01434; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:12:17 -0500 (EST) From: Received: by wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <1FVY8X3V>; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:09:52 -0500 Message-ID: <9872B1801434D21191CF006097BC884E8F1865@wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com> To: scarter@hticn.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Cleaning screens Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:09:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Ummmmm.. how about Endust for Electronics. I use it on my laptop's, CRT's and the like. It cleans the stuff thereon off ok. Have not noticed any ill effects, but I do not use it frequently, maybe once a month or so. > -----Original Message----- > From: scarter@hticn.com [SMTP:scarter@hticn.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 7:37 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Cc: Stephen A. Carter > Subject: Re: Cleaning screens > > In article <36B79029.C8AE5B81@csc.com>, Rob Bell wrote: > >I have used alcohol-based monitor screen wipes on a 755Cs, 760EL, and a > >770 over the last 4 years without problems. > > I avoid alcohol-based cleaners because I've heard they can cause > yellowing of the screen over time, but I don't have any actual > evidence or experience to support this. > > >I suppose the screens get > >cleaned every couple of weeks (I try not to touch them, so they stay > >pretty clean). > > Me too. Usually I just gently brush dust away with a soft cloth or a > Kleenex. Occasionally I'll swab the screen with a moist cloth first, > then wipe dry. Sometimes I run a slightly damp Q-Tip through the > grooves between the keys to pick up dust and other gunk. > > -- > Stephen A. Carter High-Tech Information Center Nagoya, Ltd. > Nagoya, Japan > PGP key ID: 0x59B4F7AD Be labz 9 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 2 22:47:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA09824 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:47:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05744; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:46:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:45:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05642; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:45:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05627; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:45:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-104.usc.edu [128.125.223.104]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id TAA28599; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:45:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990202191500.00a11670@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:16:48 -0800 To: , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: ThinkPad with 'butterfly' keyboard In-Reply-To: <36c05151.13422522@post.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 07:34 PM 2/2/99 +0000, you wrote: >I'm looking for a TP with 'butterfly' keyboard. Which models have >this? And, what would be a sensible price for theses used machines? The 701's. Not much to choose from--either active or passive screens, 485-50's or -75's. No other machine made use of the folding keyboard. Since it was created, the trend went toward large & thin machines instead of compact (and thicker). - Randy From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 3 01:21:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA11778 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:21:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12517; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:21:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:19:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12348; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12306; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:19:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl8-58.gate.net [199.227.20.121]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA33346; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:19:12 -0500 Message-ID: <36B7EA4E.939EE41@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 01:18:54 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nick@bs28ha.demon.co.uk CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad with 'butterfly' keyboard References: <36c05151.13422522@post.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The 701 butterfly is becoming a classic, a collector machine.. most likely the very first contemporary classic.. most already know there is one on display in the museum of modern art in NYC.. while they will run win98 and others say NT4, they are becoming a bit slow.. the beat up ones are available occasionally for $100 to $300 depending.. a really perfect and complete one would be worth about $500 to $700, not based upon speed or max memory, but based on the small size, simple design and so forth.. I recently had the cpu upgraded in one of my 701C machines so as to see if the speed increase was really worth the $$.. i suggest that you watch the misc.portables newsgroup and other thinkpad forum for sale ads.. (beware of EBay since you are ultimately dealing with an unknown seller) so far the max HDD size the 701 will support is 6.5gigs, and max memory is 40megs on the 486/75 machine.. nick@bs28ha.demon.co.uk wrote: > I'm looking for a TP with 'butterfly' keyboard. Which models have > this? And, what would be a sensible price for theses used machines? > Any ideas where to get one in the UK? > > Any advice would be most appreciated. > > Regards, > > Nick -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 3 01:24:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA11807 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:24:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12768; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:24:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:23:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12668; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:23:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12643; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:23:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:23:05 -0500 Sender: bbender@csi.com Received: from brianb-tp (d1-3-224.pittsburg-sure.dialup.ans.net [152.179.220.224]) by hil-img-ims-5.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id BAA10655 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:23:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian Bender" To: "'Thinkpads'" Subject: Useful (?) tip for WinNT / Tpad / PCCard SCSI users Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:05:01 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be4f3d$ad6d3f90$2f051fac@brianb-tp.vocollect> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: This has been bugging me for a while, and I finally found it on a TechNet CD... My drives were always getting messed up when I used my Adaptec SCSI card, because NT was making it SCSI bus 0 and bumping the piixide SCSI drivers to 1 and 2. But you can control the load order of the SCSI devices by adjusting the "TAG" value of HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\\ key (where are, in my case at least, "sparrow" for the Adaptec card and "piixide2" for the Thinkpad IDE drivers). I just made the "sparrow" tag = to the "piixide2" tag + 1, and now it treats the Adaptec card as an additional, not primary, controller when it's plugged in (and my external CD-R drive doesn't bump my internal CD drive out of its assigned letter ). HTH someone out with this... ============================================= - Brian Bender Thinkpad 600, 300MHZ, 128MB RAM, 5GB HDD Former owner of: 770 (200MHZ), 560 (120MHZ), 755CSE (DX4/100) Currently running WinNT 4.0 SP3 (about to SP4) and playing with Linux... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 3 03:36:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA12992 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:36:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18758; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:36:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:35:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18635; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:35:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18622; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:35:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p36.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.51]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA12475; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:29:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902030829.AAA12475@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow" , "nick@bs28ha.demon.co.uk" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 03 Feb 99 00:34:31 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ThinkPad with 'butterfly' keyboard List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 03 Feb 1999 01:18:54 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >The 701 butterfly is becoming a classic, a collector machine.. >most likely the very first contemporary classic.. >most already know there is one on display in the museum of modern art in >NYC.. >while they will run win98 and others say NT4, they are becoming a bit >slow.. But it does work. But yeah, they are both quite slow. >the beat up ones are available occasionally for $100 to $300 depending.. > I got one for about $200 once on eBay, because the guy thought the screen was bad (when it fact he didn't know how to change the contrast). Look for bargins like that for those of you who sort of "trust" eBay. >a really perfect and complete one would be worth about $500 to $700, not >based upon speed or max memory, >but based on the small size, simple design and so forth.. > >I recently had the cpu upgraded in one of my 701C machines so as to see >if the speed increase was really worth the $$.. > >i suggest that you watch the misc.portables newsgroup and other thinkpad >forum for sale ads.. >(beware of EBay since you are ultimately dealing with an unknown seller) > >so far the max HDD size the 701 will support is 6.5gigs, and max memory >is 40megs on the 486/75 machine.. > I have to admit (my 2 cents' worth) that while my 701 seems to be getting slower and slower, it's been a good machine for the 2 years, 11 months that I've had it. It's not a bad machine, but it would have been nicer if they had a Pentium 75 version of the same machine (and a TFT panel that would at least do 800*600). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 3 07:50:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA14571 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:50:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA03859; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:50:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:49:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA03727; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:49:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (cave@cavecreations.com [192.41.27.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA03714; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:49:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id FAA00621; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 05:49:08 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 05:49:08 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199902031249.FAA00621@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Post recovery is SLOW to boot List-Unsubscribe: Just recovered my Thinkpad 600E using the recovery CD, and it seems extremely slow to boot. On power on, I stare at the Thinkpad screen with the memory test for a good 30 seconds (hard drive light solid)... that goes away, the hard drive light stays solid for another 15-30 seconds and then the boot sequence starts (which is very fast). Does this have anything to do with where my hibernation file is? It used to be on its own 200mb partition, but now it's part of my 1gb C: partition. Hints? -Al -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998,1999 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 3 10:54:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA16518 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:54:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15893; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:53:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:51:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15538; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:50:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from sherman.ncag.edu (sherman.ncag.edu [208.198.8.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15503; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:50:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from what [208.198.8.100] by sherman.ncag.edu (SMTPD32-4.06) id A1D012A00130; Wed, 03 Feb 1999 07:57:04 PDT From: "Waldemar Kowalski" To: "'TP List'" Subject: RE: Recovery CD help! Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:50:48 -0800 Message-ID: <000201be4f8c$f822d280$6408c6d0@what.ncag.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 List-Unsubscribe: Hmm - just got frustrated with the long procedure involved with getting my system back up. Got a new HD, followed the IBM instructions for a full Win98 install, followed by installing Office 97, my major utilities, etc (about 6 hours of work). I then used CD-RESQ (a disk imaging program available with Plextor CD-R drives) to create a bootable CD of the resulting drive. Got it all onto one CD, and I can now save about 5.75 hours on a restore! What a deal... Similar stuff can be done with Ghost or other disk imaging solutions. Worth acquiring a CD-R... waldemar kowalski cio, northwest college From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 3 13:30:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA19061 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27853; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:29:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:28:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27645; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:28:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27614; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:27:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic76.fbtc.net [204.2.11.76]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA27387; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:27:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <013601be4fa2$5465b340$4c0b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "George Neurauter" , Subject: Re: Cleaning screens Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:23:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I ask everyone who looks at my laptop to please not touch the screen. Most of they time they'll forget very quicky and try to do so and I'm watching for that and I remind them before they do. That usually takes care of it and I've never had a negative reaction from anyone about this. The real result is that my screens just don't get dirty. I can blow any dust off them with a small syringe, which I do from time to time, and that's all it needs. Barry -----Original Message----- From: George Neurauter To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 2:26 PM Subject: Cleaning screens >I was wondering what you all do to clean your screens. My user manual said >to use a soft cloth (not alcohol-based cleaners which I was going to use). >What I did is buy a glasses lens cloth and it seems to work great with >fingerprint smudges. > >George Neurauter >neurautr@uiuc.edu > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 3 20:06:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA23925 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:06:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22229; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:06:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:01:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21908; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:01:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (root@jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21894; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:01:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from dante21.u.washington.edu (williams@dante21.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.71]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA16606 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:01:15 -0800 Received: from localhost (williams@localhost) by dante21.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA93192 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:01:14 -0800 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:01:14 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Williams" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 770ED and modems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I just installed the latest upgrade to the modem. I see no improvement at home but at the University I see 40Kpbs. Would getting another modem improve transmission rates? In other words, are other modems less sensitive to noise (giving higher connect speeds)? If so, which ones give the best connection rates? Or, is it most likely limited by the phone line? I need to get an Ethernet card so I am thinking about getting a combined Lan + Modem card. How can I test the phone line? Finally, what about ASDL or Cable Modems? What hardware is needed for this (portability is a concern)? Thanks, John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 3 21:18:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA24785 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:18:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25693; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:18:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:16:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25401; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:16:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from onlink4.onlink.net (onlink4.onlink.net [206.108.253.68]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25321; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:15:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from nrba2-19.onlink.net (nrba2-19.onlink.net [207.210.99.148]) by onlink4.onlink.net (8.8.7/) with SMTP id VAA22604 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:15:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199902040215.VAA22604@onlink4.onlink.net> From: "Alex Bell" To: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:07:55 +0000 Reply-To: "Alex Bell" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Freecell for Windows95 List-Unsubscribe: I know this is a long way off topic, but please bear with me as I do not want to go to the MS newsgroups. The Ontario Ministry of Health in its ineffable wisdom has decided to replace the perfectly adequate Corel Suite 7 we have on our computers with Microsoft Office. This at a time when they are doing their level best to lay off nurses and other health professionals and are supposedly cutting costs in all areas. Even worse they have re-installed Windows 95 without Freecell or the other games. I have found and copied the exe, cnt, and hlp files for freecell, mshearts, and sol. Are there any other files I need to copy back so that we can play these games from time to time? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 3 21:18:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA24787 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:18:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25713; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:18:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:16:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25369; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:15:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from onlink4.onlink.net (onlink4.onlink.net [206.108.253.68]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25355; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:15:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from nrba2-19.onlink.net (nrba2-19.onlink.net [207.210.99.148]) by onlink4.onlink.net (8.8.7/) with SMTP id VAA48482 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:15:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199902040215.VAA48482@onlink4.onlink.net> From: "Alex Bell" To: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 21:11:14 +0000 Reply-To: "Alex Bell" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: My enhanced port replicator just died! List-Unsubscribe: I bought an IBM Enhanced Port Replicator for my Thinkpad 385XD last week, and so far have been happy with it. But the power on light would not come on tonight, despite several attempts to install the thinkpad into the port replicator. Although I could get power to the thinkpad I could not make the replicator see the PCMCIA card. IBM was very good about it when I called, and said they would send me a new one ASAP - they want me to send the old one back. But is the failure of the port replicator a common occurence? What has other people's experience been? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 3 22:13:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA25538 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:13:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29015; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:13:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:11:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28820; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:11:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28805; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:11:31 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from ibm.net (slip166-72-248-151.ri.us.ibm.net [166.72.248.151]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA28972 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 03:11:25 GMT Message-ID: <36B90FB8.A4F5AFAF@ibm.net> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 22:10:49 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Bad pixel on a TFT screen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a fairly new ThinkPad 770ED (had it about two months). I have a faulty pixel that has been out for about a week now (and very noticeable). I have not had a problem this severe before. I had a ThinkPad 760CD before my 770 and had a couple pixels that went out for a couple of hours each but not a week (quality is what convinced me to buy another ThinkPad). The Owner's manual describes this as a "normal" condition in the troubleshooting section. A burned out / faulty pixel is hardly what I call a "normal" condition (especially on a ThinkPad). I have not contacted IBM warranty service (yet). Has anyone else had this problem or know what to do about it? Thanks, Rob From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 3 22:34:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA25767 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:34:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00538; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:34:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:32:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00315; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:31:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from postal.accessus.net (root@postal.accessus.net [204.248.93.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00300; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:31:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from Doc (mtv-i-1-104.accessus.net [207.206.139.104]) by postal.accessus.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA09662; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:33:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005f01be4fee$f4587080$fabececf@Doc.accessus.net> From: "Stan Blank, Ph.D." To: , "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: Re: Bad pixel on a TFT screen Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:32:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Faulty pixels, unfortunately, are considered "normal" by most manufacturers as long as the number is below a certain (often mysterious) number AND the dead pixels are not grouped in the "main" viewing area (whatever that is). I have been very fortunate.... my Thinkpad 701c has a perfect screen, my Winbook XL has only one bad pixel (in the viewing area) which only shows up when against a blue field, and my Dell Inspiron 7000 (15" screen) has a pixel stuck on red at the very bottom of the screen.... it isn't noticeable unless I look for it. Don't know if this helps, but unless the machine is brand new and within a 30 day trial period, you are probably out of luck. On a brighter note..... there is a chance that the pixel will fix itself. I had a second bad pixel on the Winbook that did this. For what it's worth........ Stan --------------------------------------------- Stan Blank, Ph.D. Wayne City High School Wayne City, IL 62895 --------------------------------------------- >I have a fairly new ThinkPad 770ED (had it about two months). I >have a faulty pixel that has been out for about a week now (and >very noticeable). I have not had a problem this severe before. >I had a ThinkPad 760CD before my 770 and had a couple pixels that >went out for a couple of hours each but not a week (quality is >what convinced me to buy another ThinkPad). The Owner's manual >describes this as a "normal" condition in the troubleshooting >section. A burned out / faulty pixel is hardly what I call a >"normal" condition (especially on a ThinkPad). I have not >contacted IBM warranty service (yet). Has anyone else had this >problem or know what to do about it? > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 02:06:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA28127 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:06:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09801; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:06:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:03:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09593; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:03:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.mindspring.com (smtp1.mindspring.com [207.69.200.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09573; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:03:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldgdn.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.193.183]) by smtp1.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA29377; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:03:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902040703.CAA29377@smtp1.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Alexander Krumeich" , "Barry Marks" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 03 Feb 99 23:03:41 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MP3s and battery consumption List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:31:14 -0600, Barry Marks wrote: >Thanks for the info. But I'm curious. What is the purpose of using the >Thinkpad for mp3's in the car? I usually listen to tapes or cd's in the >car. I can make my own tapes or cd's. > >This seems so much simpler, safer and cheaper. I listen to CD's a lot, but making a custom batch file to play your favorite MP3s (especially on a long trip) is better than switching CD's while driving (even though I can do it reasonably well). As for tapes, I don't really use them anymore, except for the CD adaper. > >Also, I've read that keeping the top closed with the computer running is >hard on the screen since it's exposed to heat. I found this out the HARD way with my SPARCbook. It took several MONTHS and 100 bucks to find another machine (dead) to replace my LCD. The heat almost completely burnt out the backlight... :( -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 02:39:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA28391 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:39:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11008; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:37:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10852; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:37:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10838; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:37:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgoldman.vip.best.com (adsl-216-101-170-226.dsl.pacbell.net [216.101.170.226]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id XAA08781 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:36:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990203233401.00baa260@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 23:37:10 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Re: MP3s and battery consumption In-Reply-To: <199902040703.CAA29377@smtp1.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:03 PM 2/3/99 , Paul Khoury wrote: >On Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:31:14 -0600, Barry Marks wrote: >>Also, I've read that keeping the top closed with the computer running is >>hard on the screen since it's exposed to heat. > >I found this out the HARD way with my SPARCbook. It took >several MONTHS and 100 bucks to find another machine (dead) >to replace my LCD. The heat almost completely burnt out the backlight... :( This goes back to the question I posted on 17-Jan-99 to this list (but never got any responses). If I put my ThinkPad (380Z - P-II/300, 96MB) into SUSPEND (not Hibernate), by closing the screen and the machine is attached to the AC adapter, how long is it safe to leave the machine suspended before damage will occur? Any feedback? -- /=================================================================\ | David Goldman | My business motto is: | | IVR@DGoldman.Com | Choose any two: [ ] Fast | | | [ ] Cheap | | Ask me for my PGP key. | [ ] Right | \=================================================================/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 02:49:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA28468 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:49:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11422; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:47:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11331; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:47:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.teleport.com (mail1.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11318; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:47:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19273 invoked from network); 4 Feb 1999 07:47:14 -0000 Received: from i48-15-06.pdx.du.teleport.com (HELO execed4.usc.edu) (216.26.5.134) by mail1.teleport.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 1999 07:47:14 -0000 Message-ID: <36B8A132.5113@teleport.com> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 11:19:14 -0800 From: Bryan Daum Organization: Allied Inspection Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad with 'butterfly' keyboard References: <199902030829.AAA12475@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: For what its worth, I bought a second 701C last summer through the group. It was an upgraded one. I see only a little difference in my use between the two machines as I mainly use it for email, wp and net work. I missed one a while back or I'd have three. I do believe it is a sweet machine. If anyone has a pristine 701 and wants to sell it please tell me. Regards to all, Bryan 701C -and still delighted. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 03:59:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA28961 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 03:58:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14414; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 03:58:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 03:57:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14306; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 03:57:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14285; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 03:57:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA14478 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:57:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:57:38 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: ThinkPad List Subject: Memory/HDD on 385ED Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Greetings everyone, I was wondering if it's possible to go above 80 megs of memory on a 385ED and also, does anyone have detailed instructions on how to open the machine to access the HDD? Will the machine accept a standard 2.5" IDE HDD? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 06:45:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA00258 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:45:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA26499; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:44:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:43:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA26346; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:43:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA26333; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from amlaptop ([202.27.179.78]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990204114325.WEDV678125.mta2-rme@amlaptop> for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 00:43:25 +1300 Message-ID: <002201be5033$41d84800$4eb31bca@amlaptop> From: "Andreas Michaelides" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: Freecell for Windows95 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 00:40:55 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >The Ontario Ministry of Health in its ineffable wisdom has decided to >replace the perfectly adequate Corel Suite 7 we have on our computers >with Microsoft Office. This at a time when they are doing their level >best to lay off nurses and other health professionals and are >supposedly cutting costs in all areas. > >Even worse they have re-installed Windows 95 without Freecell or the >other games. I have found and copied the exe, cnt, and hlp files for >freecell, mshearts, and sol. Are there any other files I need to copy >back so that we can play these games from time to time? Don't take this personally, but I've read about the amount of time lost from employees playing Solitaire and FreeCell on their PC's at work in the US. I don't remember exactly, but it was a phenomenal number, something like millions or a billion dollars a year in lost productivity. Perhaps if you didn't have FreeCell on your computers there would be money left for the nurses?? Later, Andreas!!! ;-) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 09:50:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA01964 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:50:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05326; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:49:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:48:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05161; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:48:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05112; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:47:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial40.vramp.net (dial40.vramp.net [209.107.20.55]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA17456; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:47:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902041447.JAA17456@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: David Goldman , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:45:21 -0500 Subject: Re: MP3s and battery consumption Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <4.1.19990203233401.00baa260@shell9.ba.best.com> References: <199902040703.CAA29377@smtp1.mindspring.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: David (and Paul Khoury), On 3 Feb 99, at 23:37, David Goldman wrote: > If I put my ThinkPad (380Z - P-II/300, 96MB) into SUSPEND (not Hibernate), > by closing the screen and the machine is attached to the AC adapter, how > long is it safe to leave the machine suspended before damage will occur? Are we talking about heat from the display here or heat generated by the processor? My 755CD (a notoriously HOT running machine) and my 760XL spend almost all their time in a docking station with the lid closed and on 24/7. If we're talking about heat from the display Dave, then the answer is "basically forever". Once the lid is closed, the display (essentially the backlight) will go off. If it doesn't go off, then you have a broken lid switch and you should have the unit serviced. If you're talking about heat from the processor, then I really don't have an answer for you but I haven't heard of any cases of self immolation amongst Thinkpads from processor generated heat. Paul, if your Sparcbook cooked because the lid was closed, why didn't the display go off? I work on literally hundreds of computers we receive as donations and I can't remember ever seeing one that didn't have some sort of switch to turn the display off when you close the lid. Regards, James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. CaptJHEM@waterw.com Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 10:50:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA02758 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:50:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08371; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:44:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:43:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08221; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08206; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:43:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from atreyu (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id JAA08980; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:43:11 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990204094241.007fe270@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 09:42:41 -0600 To: "Alex Bell" From: Ron Heiby Subject: Re: Freecell for Windows95 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199902040215.VAA22604@onlink4.onlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Take care. In the US, the computer belongs to the employer, who can direct what programs will and will not be executed. This is *doubly* true of governmental computers. I would guess that your job is more important to you than Freecell. Good luck! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: My Primary Signing Key: 0xBFF69509 available from keyservers iQA/AwUBNrm/jG8pw+2/9pUJEQIGsgCgkEPG2sgj3p8TpI/q/+S2zaR8E88AoKgP OnsBcOtU0I3/O+x7bgJ49nOt =kTWU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 11:22:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA03314 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:22:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10782; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:21:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:20:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10661; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:20:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from lima.epix.net (lima.epix.net [199.224.64.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10523; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:18:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mohotta (itha-125ppp91.epix.net [199.224.125.91]) by lima.epix.net (8.9.0/8.9.0/1998093001/Philippe Levan) with SMTP id LAA11862 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:18:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902041618.LAA11862@lima.epix.net> From: "Julian Thomas" Reply-to: jt@epix.net Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 11:12:42 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: 770ED and modems X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.51 b51 List-Unsubscribe: In , on 02/03/99 at 05:01 PM, "J. Williams" typed: >Hi, >I just installed the latest upgrade to the modem. I see no improvement >at home but at the University I see 40Kpbs. >How can I test the phone line? With a terminal program (I use ZOC) call the USR test number 18472626000 I think you log in as "line" and use test as the PW - not really sure and I purged my ZOC logs before my last backup. >Finally, what about ASDL or Cable Modems? What hardware is needed for >this (portability is a concern)? xDSL and Cable modems require an external box and an ethernet NIC in your computer. You won't find either service on the road (at least that you can casually hook up to without establishing an account). >Thanks, John -- Julian Thomas: jt@epix.net http://home.epix.net/~jt Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc http://www.possi.org In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! -- -- The sad thing about Windows bashing is it's all true. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 14:03:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA05657 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:03:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23311; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:02:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:00:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23096; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:00:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from apoc.sacredsoulrecords.com (apoc.cysource.com [207.238.244.206]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23070; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:00:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by apoc.sacredsoulrecords.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA18619 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:58:21 -0600 From: Pooh Message-Id: <199902041858.MAA18619@apoc.sacredsoulrecords.com> Subject: thinkpad 850 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:58:21 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: anyone know where I could get my hands on one of thse ppc beauties?.... -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jeff Schoby is: | "May U live 2 see the dawn." Programmer/Analyst | -Prince City of Columbia, MO +------+-------------------------------- ----------------------------------+ | Owner/President of: email: | | Sacred Soul Records | pooh@sacredsoulrecords.com | | |____________________________| | ssr@sacredsoulrecords.com Home of the Apocalypse BBS |http://www.sacredsoulrecords.com finger bbs@bbs.sacredsoulrecords.com +-------------------------------- http://www.sacredsoulrecords.com/~bbs/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 16:46:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA08366 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:46:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03818; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:39:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:36:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03592; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:36:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03573; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:36:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl7-55.gate.net [199.227.131.182]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA60642; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:35:46 -0500 Message-ID: <36BA129E.821874A0@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:35:26 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pooh CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad 850 References: <199902041858.MAA18619@apoc.sacredsoulrecords.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: you might see if IBM has any refurbished machines.. otherwise, every now and then one pops up for sale.. Pooh wrote: > anyone know where I could get my hands on one of thse ppc beauties?.... > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Jeff Schoby is: | "May U live 2 see the dawn." > Programmer/Analyst | -Prince > City of Columbia, MO +------+-------------------------------- > ----------------------------------+ | Owner/President of: > email: | | Sacred Soul Records > | pooh@sacredsoulrecords.com | | > |____________________________| | ssr@sacredsoulrecords.com > Home of the Apocalypse BBS |http://www.sacredsoulrecords.com > finger bbs@bbs.sacredsoulrecords.com +-------------------------------- > http://www.sacredsoulrecords.com/~bbs/index.html > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 17:14:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA08816 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:14:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05864; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:13:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:12:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05735; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:12:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from sarah.albany.edu (sarah.albany.edu [169.226.1.103]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05709; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:12:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp.binghamton.edu (71.new-york-38-39rs.ny.dial-access.att.net [12.79.9.71]) by sarah.albany.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA27706; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:12:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902042212.RAA27706@sarah.albany.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Ken's E-mail Client 1998 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 17:04:29 -0500 To: "J. Carlos M. Sibal" , From: Ken Subject: 770ED DVD does audio extraction In-Reply-To: <005601be4e4a$46a64200$6d06a2d0@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:20 AM 2/2/99 +0800, J. Carlos M. Sibal wrote: >1. Is the DVD-ROM drive in the 770ed capable of Digital Audio Extraction >using CD-R software? Anyone have any experience using it for this purpose? Yes, it works fine. I have had the most success with WinDac 1.41 (for Win95), running in burst mode. It averages about 6 speed for reading an entire audio CD. >2. Is it possible to use MPEG-2 software to watch DVD movies on the 770ed >w/o the video enhancer? the 770 model i'm thinking of is the P2/266 model. Guess someone else will have to answer this - I'm not understanding what the point of "w/o the video enhancer" is. The 770ED plays DVD's and supposedly uses hardware decoding. (I have finally tested DVD playback on my machine, and I was not surprised by the poor image quality: I really felt exactly like I was watching on MPEG movie.) Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 17:43:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA09354 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07776; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:41:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07629; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:41:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07600; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:41:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-70.gate.net [199.227.173.70]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA13048; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:41:33 -0500 Message-ID: <36BA2209.D1D973ED@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 17:41:13 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Williams" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770ED and modems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Mr. Williams.. J. Williams wrote: > Hi, > > I just installed the latest upgrade to the modem. I see no improvement at > home but at the University I see 40Kpbs. > mwave modems work better with some modems than others..i.e. digital modems and mwave don't get along too well.. > Would getting another modem improve transmission rates? In other words, > are other modems less sensitive to noise (giving higher connect speeds)? > If so, which ones give the best connection rates? > you bet..v.90 stay with 3-com or any other top brand.. the difference between unbranded and branded is trivial when it comes to support.. > Or, is it most likely limited by the phone line? I need to get an Ethernet > card so I am thinking about getting a combined Lan + Modem card. > phone lines matter..here, i have computers and modems all OVER the house.. well, my wife limits me to one room.. but i sneak out with LAN wires.. heh, heh.. :-) the point is, on the same phoine lines i achieve 52k with one modem on one ISP, and 32k with the same lines and ISP and my 770X mwave modem (AFTER the v.90 upgrade).. so, while the lines DO matter, thats not ALL that matters.. > How can I test the phone line? > ask the phone company to do it.. :-)there are modem makers that maintain a test #, but i forgot who and where.. i THINK it was USR.. :-) (read 3-com) so check web sites.. > Finally, what about ASDL or Cable Modems? What hardware is needed for > this (portability is a concern)? > don't know, its new and not available in the outback of florida (where i now reside).. > Thanks, John -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 17:50:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA09508 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:50:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08348; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:49:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:49:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08235; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:49:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08219; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-70.gate.net [199.227.173.70]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA06844; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:49:02 -0500 Message-ID: <36BA23CA.662335ED@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 17:48:42 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vincent Poy CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Memory/HDD on 385ED References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Vincent.. Vincent Poy wrote: > Greetings everyone, > > I was wondering if it's possible to go above 80 megs of memory on > a 385ED and also, maybe..if it is a model # 2635-EAU, FAU, HGU, JGU, HBU, JBU & JCU the answer is YES.. it'll take the 128meg part.. $450 to $600 depending upon manufacturer... > does anyone have detailed instructions on how to open > the machine to access the HDD? Will the machine accept a standard 2.5" > IDE HDD? > check the IBM web site hardware manuals for the details..it'll take any 17mm HDD.. not sure if the 8.1gig will actually WORK in the 380 series.. but it'll sure fit.. > Cheers, > Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] > GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] > Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 17:52:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA09542 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08639; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:51:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:51:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08509; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:51:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08482; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:51:02 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from ibm.net (slip166-72-248-145.ri.us.ibm.net [166.72.248.145]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA90316 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:50:54 GMT Message-ID: <36BA243B.B8A6C5EF@ibm.net> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 17:50:35 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: 770ED DVD does audio extraction References: <199902042212.RAA27706@sarah.albany.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a P2/266 770ED (model 9549-5AU). This model comes standard with a DVD drive AND the Enhanced Video Adapter. I am not aware of a version of the 770ED without the adapter (unless you mean a 770E). It is an option on the newer (P2/300) 770X with the DVD drive. The software that is packaged with the 770ED for DVD playback is called SoftDVD and does require the adapter. You might be able to find a non-IBM program that does not use the adapter. The software that is packaged with the 770X is ExpressDVD and does not (to my knowledge) require the adapter. I do not know if it will work on a 77ED. As for movie playback onscreen, it is ok (i.e. it looks like an MPEG movie). Using the above mentioned adapter you can output the video and sound to a TV. DVD movie playback is OUTSTANDING using this method, especially on a high quality TV set. Rob Ken wrote: > At 09:20 AM 2/2/99 +0800, J. Carlos M. Sibal wrote: > >1. Is the DVD-ROM drive in the 770ed capable of Digital Audio Extraction > >using CD-R software? Anyone have any experience using it for this purpose? > > Yes, it works fine. I have had the most success with WinDac 1.41 (for > Win95), running in burst mode. It averages about 6 speed for reading an > entire audio CD. > > >2. Is it possible to use MPEG-2 software to watch DVD movies on the 770ed > >w/o the video enhancer? the 770 model i'm thinking of is the P2/266 model. > > Guess someone else will have to answer this - I'm not understanding what > the point of "w/o the video enhancer" is. The 770ED plays DVD's and > supposedly uses hardware decoding. (I have finally tested DVD playback on > my machine, and I was not surprised by the poor image quality: I really > felt exactly like I was watching on MPEG movie.) > > Ken > kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 17:57:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA09645 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:57:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09424; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:56:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:55:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09167; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:55:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09071; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:54:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-70.gate.net [199.227.173.70]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA67904; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:55:12 -0500 Message-ID: <36BA253C.860C0A4E@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 17:54:52 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Bell CC: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: My enhanced port replicator just died! References: <199902040215.VAA48482@onlink4.onlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Alex.. in years of surfing, i have not heard of the port replicator going byebye.. the one you have might be a different proposition due to a higher degree of complexity.. be happy IBM is so good about the warranty.. :-) Alex Bell wrote: > I bought an IBM Enhanced Port Replicator for my Thinkpad 385XD last > week, and so far have been happy with it. But the power on light > would not come on tonight, despite several attempts to install the > thinkpad into the port replicator. Although I could get power to the > thinkpad I could not make the replicator see the PCMCIA card. > > IBM was very good about it when I called, and said they would send me a > new one ASAP - they want me to send the old one back. But is the > failure of the port replicator a common occurence? What has other > people's experience been? -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 18:01:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA09750 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:01:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08793; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:52:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:51:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08658; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08618; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-70.gate.net [199.227.173.70]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA45264; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:51:43 -0500 Message-ID: <36BA246C.CFF0DA0E@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 17:51:24 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: resolute@ibm.net CC: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Bad pixel on a TFT screen References: <36B90FB8.A4F5AFAF@ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Rob.. it happens.. i know thats not the answer that you want.. however IF these bum pixels are in a cluster, then it MIGHT be a warranty item.. if not, not a warranty item.. but the only judge is the guy who fixes these machines.. call IBM help line and smile a lot.. verbally that is.. :-) resolute@ibm.net wrote: > I have a fairly new ThinkPad 770ED (had it about two months). I > have a faulty pixel that has been out for about a week now (and > very noticeable). I have not had a problem this severe before. > I had a ThinkPad 760CD before my 770 and had a couple pixels that > went out for a couple of hours each but not a week (quality is > what convinced me to buy another ThinkPad). The Owner's manual > describes this as a "normal" condition in the troubleshooting > section. A burned out / faulty pixel is hardly what I call a > "normal" condition (especially on a ThinkPad). I have not > contacted IBM warranty service (yet). Has anyone else had this > problem or know what to do about it? > > Thanks, > Rob -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 18:05:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA09828 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:05:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10028; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:00:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09829; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09803; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-70.gate.net [199.227.173.70]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA67932; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:00:30 -0500 Message-ID: <36BA267A.B85D6A6E@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 18:00:10 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: "nick@bs28ha.demon.co.uk" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: ThinkPad with 'butterfly' keyboard References: <199902030829.AAA12475@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul.. would be wonderful to have a 701 P-75 SVGA machine, but the 701 was killed when all TP design was moved to yamato, japan.. 701 fills a niche and you'll need a tire iron to pry it out of the dead hands of many die hard users.. Paul Khoury wrote: > On Wed, 03 Feb 1999 01:18:54 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: > > >The 701 butterfly is becoming a classic, a collector machine.. > >most likely the very first contemporary classic.. > >most already know there is one on display in the museum of modern art in > >NYC.. > >while they will run win98 and others say NT4, they are becoming a bit > >slow.. > > But it does work. But yeah, they are both quite slow. > > >the beat up ones are available occasionally for $100 to $300 depending.. > > > I got one for about $200 once on eBay, because the guy thought the screen was bad > (when it fact he didn't know how to change the contrast). Look for bargins like that for > those of you who sort of "trust" eBay. > > >a really perfect and complete one would be worth about $500 to $700, not > >based upon speed or max memory, > >but based on the small size, simple design and so forth.. > > > >I recently had the cpu upgraded in one of my 701C machines so as to see > >if the speed increase was really worth the $$.. > > > >i suggest that you watch the misc.portables newsgroup and other thinkpad > >forum for sale ads.. > >(beware of EBay since you are ultimately dealing with an unknown seller) > > > >so far the max HDD size the 701 will support is 6.5gigs, and max memory > >is 40megs on the 486/75 machine.. > > > I have to admit (my 2 cents' worth) that while my 701 seems to be getting > slower and slower, it's been a good machine for the 2 years, 11 months that I've had it. > It's not a bad machine, but it would have been nicer if they had a Pentium 75 version > of the same machine (and a TFT panel that would at least do 800*600). > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html > Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 > ICQ#22543041 AIM - pkhoury12 -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 19:44:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA11222 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:44:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15115; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:43:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:40:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14944; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:40:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAD (smtp4.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14928; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:40:14 -0500 Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35] (may be forged)) by dub-img-ims-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id TAA13504 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:39:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902050039.TAA13504@dub-img-ims-3.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:38:34 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Bad pixel on a TFT screen List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 04 Feb 1999 17:51:24 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >it happens.. >i know thats not the answer that you want.. > >however IF these bum pixels are in a cluster, then it MIGHT be a >warranty item.. >if not, not a warranty item.. > >but the only judge is the guy who fixes these machines.. >call IBM help line and smile a lot.. verbally that is.. :-) When I had a problem with mine (TP600), I was told the rule was "8 pixels total" or "3 contiguous". I got a new screen under warranty because it was scratched by the keytops, but my one always-red pixel wouldn't have qualified. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 20:30:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA11831 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:30:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17191; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:29:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:27:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16953; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:27:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16927; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:27:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:26:55 -0500 Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by dub-img-ims-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id UAA19063 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:26:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902050126.UAA19063@dub-img-ims-3.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 20:25:08 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Switching networks regularly? 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From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 20:30:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA11839 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:30:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17210; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:29:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:28:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16999; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:27:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16928; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:27:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:26:55 -0500 Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by dub-img-ims-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id UAA19049 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:26:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902050126.UAA19049@dub-img-ims-3.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 20:23:46 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 770ED and modems List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 04 Feb 1999 11:12:42 -0500, Julian Thomas wrote: >xDSL and Cable modems require an external box and an ethernet NIC in your >computer. You won't find either service on the road (at least that you >can casually hook up to without establishing an account). True, although the NIC I've got in my notebook for the cablemodem also works (with some setting changes) on the network at my client's. When I'm there and have to do something their firewall doesn't allow (like email downloading!) I use the built-in modem to call the local Compuserve number. andrew ------ Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] SGML Mercenaries "Since 1990" 1883 Featherston Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 6P6 Phone 613-523-2237 / Fax 613-523-6893 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 22:16:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA12922 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21359; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:15:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:14:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21211; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:14:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21198; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:14:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic74.fbtc.net [204.2.11.74]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA24898; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:14:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <004e01be50b5$1413d7e0$fa05d2ab@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: , "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: Re: Bad pixel on a TFT screen Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:10:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: It's pretty normal to have a few dead pixels. In the days when they didn't allow any dead pixels the cost of a TFT screen was about 4 times what it is now. They've reduced the price by allowing an "acceptable" number of dead pixels. Most companies won't do anything about it if you have fewer than the limit unless theyre really close together. On the other hand, pixels go dead during the manufacturing process. It's very rare for one to die later. I would call IBM and ask about that. It might indicate a real problem. Barry -----Original Message----- From: resolute@ibm.net To: ThinkPad Mailing List Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 9:10 PM Subject: Bad pixel on a TFT screen >I have a fairly new ThinkPad 770ED (had it about two months). I >have a faulty pixel that has been out for about a week now (and >very noticeable). I have not had a problem this severe before. >I had a ThinkPad 760CD before my 770 and had a couple pixels that >went out for a couple of hours each but not a week (quality is >what convinced me to buy another ThinkPad). The Owner's manual >describes this as a "normal" condition in the troubleshooting >section. A burned out / faulty pixel is hardly what I call a >"normal" condition (especially on a ThinkPad). I have not >contacted IBM warranty service (yet). Has anyone else had this >problem or know what to do about it? > >Thanks, >Rob > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 22:51:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA13204 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:51:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22721; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:50:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:49:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22619; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:49:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet.sover.net (garnet.sover.net [209.198.87.53]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22603; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:49:24 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from MYHOSTNAME (arc1a147.bf.sover.net [209.198.81.149]) by garnet.sover.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA05924 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:49:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902050349.WAA05924@garnet.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on garnet.sover.net) MYHOSTNAME from arc1a147.bf.sover.net [209.198.81.149] 209.198.81.149 Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:49:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 12:37:55 -0500 To: "Thinkpad" In-Reply-To: <002201be5033$41d84800$4eb31bca@amlaptop> Subject: Re: Freecell for Windows95 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.51 b51 List-Unsubscribe: >Don't take this personally, but I've read about the amount of time lost >from employees playing Solitaire and FreeCell on their PC's at work in >the US. I don't remember exactly, but it was a phenomenal number, >something like millions or a billion dollars a year in lost productivity. >Perhaps if you didn't have FreeCell on your computers there would be >money left for the nurses?? Employers probably lose 20 times that number with lost productivity JUST BY USING WINDOWS. --When I worked for myself and tracked everything, both for billing and to discover where the losses were, I discovered that around 20% to 30% was wasted time due to windows and the junkware sold for it. What I really find really amazing is that no one has done any classical IE studies to identify and track the problem. _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 4 23:03:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA13299 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:03:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23293; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:03:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:02:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23175; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:02:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23156; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:02:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from theriver.com (a7.pm3-28.theriver.com [206.102.195.23]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17937; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:02:29 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36BA6D79.5463F5E9@theriver.com> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 21:03:05 -0700 From: James J Mckenzie Reply-To: os2support@theriver.com Organization: None X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: letoured@sover.net CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: Freecell for Windows95 References: <199902050349.WAA05924@garnet.sover.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The largest amount of wasted time is unauthorized web surfing. The estimate is between 10 to 20%. However, this may be a massive underestimate, as the US Government states that some employees were watched and they used up to 50% of their time in this activity. I asked that FreeCell and Solitare be brought back for their intended purpose, to train users on how to properly use Windows based programs. James letoured@sover.net wrote: > > >Don't take this personally, but I've read about the amount of time lost > >from employees playing Solitaire and FreeCell on their PC's at work in > >the US. I don't remember exactly, but it was a phenomenal number, > >something like millions or a billion dollars a year in lost productivity. > > >Perhaps if you didn't have FreeCell on your computers there would be > >money left for the nurses?? > > Employers probably lose 20 times that number with lost productivity JUST > BY USING WINDOWS. --When I worked for myself and tracked everything, both > for billing and to discover where the losses were, I discovered that > around 20% to 30% was wasted time due to windows and the junkware sold for > it. > > What I really find really amazing is that no one has done any classical IE > studies to identify and track the problem. > > _____________ > letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 5 02:21:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA15327 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 02:21:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00190; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 02:21:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 5 Feb 1999 02:19:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29958; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 02:19:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.mindspring.com (smtp1.mindspring.com [207.69.200.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29945; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 02:19:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldhd7.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.197.167]) by smtp1.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA00971; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 02:16:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902050716.CAA00971@smtp1.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "David Goldman" Date: Thu, 04 Feb 99 23:13:57 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MP3s and battery consumption List-Unsubscribe: >This goes back to the question I posted on 17-Jan-99 to this list >(but never got any responses). > >If I put my ThinkPad (380Z - P-II/300, 96MB) into SUSPEND (not Hibernate), >by closing the screen and the machine is attached to the AC adapter, >how long is it safe to leave the machine suspended before damage will >occur? Ahh, in suspend? I don't think you should get any damage, unless you're charging the battery in a poorly ventalated area. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98/NT 4, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 and Newton OS 2.0 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 5 07:55:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA17253 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:55:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16379; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:55:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:53:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16206; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:53:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16185; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:53:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA22587; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 04:52:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 04:52:55 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Bill Morrow cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Memory/HDD on 385ED In-Reply-To: <36BA23CA.662335ED@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Bill Morrow wrote: Hi Bill, > Vincent.. > > Vincent Poy wrote: > > > Greetings everyone, > > > > I was wondering if it's possible to go above 80 megs of memory on > > a 385ED and also, > > maybe..if it is a model # 2635-EAU, FAU, HGU, JGU, HBU, JBU & JCU > the answer is YES.. > it'll take the 128meg part.. > $450 to $600 depending upon manufacturer... It's a 2635-5EU. It seems like under win98, my system runs out of memory and keeps crashing so I wanted to see if I can get 128 megs on this thing. Even though the Intel Triton MX chipset will not cache any memory if there is more than 64 megs. > > does anyone have detailed instructions on how to open > > the machine to access the HDD? Will the machine accept a standard 2.5" > > IDE HDD? > > > > check the IBM web site hardware manuals for the details..it'll take any 17mm > HDD.. > not sure if the 8.1gig will actually WORK in the 380 series.. > but it'll sure fit.. Actually, I'm planning to get a 770 series with the PII366, 128 megs of RAM and 14 gig HD so I was wondering if there was a easy way to just merge what's on my 385ED with the new machine. Also, did anyone compare the 770 series to the Compaq Armada 7800's? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 5 08:34:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA17462 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:34:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17964; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:34:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:34:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17865; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:34:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.41]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17851; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:34:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.31.240]) by mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990205133331.BPTW22708@dts-jl> for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:33:31 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990205083238.00abf880@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 08:32:38 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Memory/HDD on 385ED In-Reply-To: References: <36BA23CA.662335ED@icanect.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 04:52 AM 2/5/99 -0800, Vincent Poy wrote: >Also, did anyone >compare the 770 series to the Compaq Armada 7800's? > Yes, get the TP. Better screen; better support. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 5 08:39:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA17490 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18369; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:38:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:38:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18280; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:38:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18266; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:38:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA22796; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 05:38:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 05:38:15 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Jane Loyless cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Memory/HDD on 385ED In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990205083238.00abf880@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Jane Loyless wrote: > >Also, did anyone > >compare the 770 series to the Compaq Armada 7800's? > > Yes, get the TP. Better screen; better support. Hmmm, Thanks for the insight. I thought the Armada was supposed to be good too... One thing about Compaq is that they don't have the bulky power supply. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 5 09:02:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA17712 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:02:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19547; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:02:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:01:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19392; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:01:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.41]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19379; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.31.240]) by mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990205140052.BVKY22708@dts-jl> for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:00:52 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990205090001.00aaf6d0@pop.netaddress.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.netaddress.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 09:00:01 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Memory/HDD on 385ED In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19990205083238.00abf880@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 05:38 AM 2/5/99 -0800, Vincent Poy wrote: >> Yes, get the TP. Better screen; better support. > > Hmmm, Thanks for the insight. I thought the Armada was supposed >to be good too... One thing about Compaq is that they don't have the >bulky power supply. > Didn't say it wasn't good; just said the TP had a better screen and better support. Keyboards on the two are roughly equal. The downside of not having that bulky power supply is that it's built into the machine so you carry it with you whether you want to or not. If I'm sitting on my couch with the machine in my lap, I'd rather have the weight and heat of the power supply on the floor rather than on my leg. FWIW, my personal choice from the entire TP or Armada line is the TP600. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 5 09:07:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA17757 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:07:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20007; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:06:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:06:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19914; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:06:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com ([208.14.17.29]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19877; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:06:05 -0500 (EST) From: Received: by wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <1LDJHHG5>; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:03:23 -0500 Message-ID: <9872B1801434D21191CF006097BC884E8F186F@wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com> To: jloyless@netbox.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Memory/HDD on 385ED Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:03:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Since I'm looking into getting a new box would you elaborate as to the reasons for this choice? TIA > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Loyless [SMTP:jloyless@netbox.com] > Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 9:00 AM > To: ThinkPad Mailing List > Subject: Re: Memory/HDD on 385ED > snip > > FWIW, my personal choice from the entire TP or Armada line is the TP600. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 5 09:59:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA18504 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:59:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24373; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:58:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:57:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24250; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:57:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww181.netaddress.usa.net (ww181.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24234; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:57:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17256 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Feb 1999 14:54:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990205145450.17255.qmail@ww181.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.81 by ww181 via web-mailer(R2.6) on Fri Feb 5 14:54:50 GMT 1999 Date: 5 Feb 99 06:54:50 PST From: Rob Bell To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Kingston Token Ring Card in 770 - CardWizard? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: Hello, Does anyone have experience setting up a Kingston KTR-PCM16/4 Token ring = card in a 770 running NT? I recently acquired this card and am trying to set = it up to access my client's network. I'm not getting very far. I downloaded drivers from the Kingston site and used them to install the adapter in the NT Control Panel. NT seemed fine with the addition, but u= pon reboot CardWizard complained that the card was unrecognized and wanted to= install and IBM Token Ring card. I tried it both ways, but I can't seem = to get NT to use the card. No matter which card type I try, CardWizard alwa= ys attempts to install it again when I boot. Once I can get the card successfully recognized by the system I can get t= he Novell Intranetware information from my client site. = Anyone have any ideas for me? Thanks, Rob rbell1@netscape.net ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at htt= p://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 5 15:17:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA22710 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:17:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16769; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:10:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:07:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16505; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:07:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16449; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:07:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24878; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:06:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:06:54 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Jane Loyless cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Memory/HDD on 385ED In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990205090001.00aaf6d0@pop.netaddress.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Jane Loyless wrote: > At 05:38 AM 2/5/99 -0800, Vincent Poy wrote: > > >> Yes, get the TP. Better screen; better support. > > > > Hmmm, Thanks for the insight. I thought the Armada was supposed > >to be good too... One thing about Compaq is that they don't have the > >bulky power supply. > > > > Didn't say it wasn't good; just said the TP had a better screen and better > support. Keyboards on the two are roughly equal. The downside of not > having that bulky power supply is that it's built into the machine so you > carry it with you whether you want to or not. If I'm sitting on my couch > with the machine in my lap, I'd rather have the weight and heat of the > power supply on the floor rather than on my leg. > > FWIW, my personal choice from the entire TP or Armada line is the TP600. You do have a good point. What is the real difference between the 770X and the 600 anyways? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 5 15:27:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA22949 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:27:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18451; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:26:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:26:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18364; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:26:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.myna.com (smtp.tor.myna.net [205.206.174.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18349; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:26:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from manson ([206.186.80.84]) by mail.myna.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-42626U10000L1000S0) with SMTP id AAA411; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:25:55 -0500 Message-ID: <003f01be514f$371a76a0$5450bace@manson> From: "Manson Mak" To: "Bill Morrow" , "Pooh" Cc: Subject: Re: thinkpad 850 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:33:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: how good are these reburbished ibm machines? anyone has any experience? mac -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow To: Pooh Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 3:41 PM Subject: Re: thinkpad 850 >you might see if IBM has any refurbished machines.. >otherwise, every now and then one pops up for sale.. > > >Pooh wrote: > >> anyone know where I could get my hands on one of thse ppc beauties?.... >> >> -- >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Jeff Schoby is: | "May U live 2 see the dawn." >> Programmer/Analyst | -Prince >> City of Columbia, MO +------+-------------------------------- >> ----------------------------------+ | Owner/President of: >> email: | | Sacred Soul Records >> | pooh@sacredsoulrecords.com | | >> |____________________________| | ssr@sacredsoulrecords.com >> Home of the Apocalypse BBS |http://www.sacredsoulrecords.com >> finger bbs@bbs.sacredsoulrecords.com +-------------------------------- >> http://www.sacredsoulrecords.com/~bbs/index.html >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > >-- >Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) >WEB page http://thinkpads.com >Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html >bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net >770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... > >Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, >Done on a >closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 5 15:34:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA23081 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:34:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19052; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:34:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:33:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18905; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:33:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.174.4.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18879; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:33:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 10251 invoked by uid 66); 5 Feb 1999 20:33:57 -0000 Received: from seneca by slarti with UUCP; Fri Feb 5 20:33:57 1999 -0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Harald Milz Newsgroups: local.ml.thinkpad Subject: Re: thinkpad 850 Date: 5 Feb 1999 19:34:16 GMT Organization: Linux.DE Lines: 10 Message-ID: <79fh3o$bo4$2@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> References: <199902041858.MAA18619@apoc.sacredsoulrecords.com> <36BA129E.821874A0@icanect.net> Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de NNTP-Posting-Host: seneca.muc.de X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980618 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.35 (i586)) List-Unsubscribe: Bill Morrow wrote: > you might see if IBM has any refurbished machines.. > otherwise, every now and then one pops up for sale.. I'd look for the 860, tho... -- If you push the "extra ice" button on the soft drink vending machine, you won't get any ice. If you push the "no ice" button, you'll get ice, but no cup. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 5 16:15:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA23512 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:15:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22930; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:14:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:13:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22753; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:13:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22734; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:12:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (root@localhost) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11310; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:12:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from dts-jl (DTS_JL.uhc.com [10.145.181.71]) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11277; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:12:40 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990205161149.00b39400@pop.netaddress.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.netaddress.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:11:49 -0500 To: Vincent Poy From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Memory/HDD on 385ED Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19990205090001.00aaf6d0@pop.netaddress.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:06 PM 2/5/99 -0800, Vincent Poy wrote: >> FWIW, my personal choice from the entire TP or Armada line is the TP600. > > You do have a good point. What is the real difference between the > 770X and the 600 anyways? > video and audio features and 14.1" screen available on the 770X with additional weight and case size I don't need the additional video and audio capabilities, and since portability is important to me, the additional size and weight to get the 14.1" screen isn't worth it for my needs. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 5 16:16:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA23529 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:16:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23089; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:15:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:15:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22993; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:15:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22949; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:15:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.uhc.com (root@localhost) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11746 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:14:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from dts-jl (DTS_JL.uhc.com [10.145.181.71]) by gw.uhc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11737 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:14:16 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990205161325.00a2e2a0@pop.netaddress.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.netaddress.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:13:25 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Memory/HDD on 385ED In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19990205090001.00aaf6d0@pop.netaddress.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:06 PM 2/5/99 -0800, Vincent Poy wrote: >> FWIW, my personal choice from the entire TP or Armada line is the TP600. > > You do have a good point. What is the real difference between the > 770X and the 600 anyways? > video and audio features and 14.1" screen available on the 770X with additional weight and case size I don't need the additional video and audio capabilities, and since portability is important to me, having to lug the additional size and weight around to get the 14.1" screen isn't worth it for my needs. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 5 16:49:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA24096 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:49:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26255; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:48:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:47:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26138; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:47:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from trifid.u.arizona.edu (trifid.U.Arizona.EDU [128.196.137.197]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26093; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:47:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from spectra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu [150.135.52.9]) by trifid.u.arizona.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22336 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:39:51 -0700 Received: from europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (europa.opt-sci.arizona.edu [150.135.52.30]) by spectra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA16757 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:47:01 -0700 (MST) Received: (from stu@localhost) by europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (8.8.6/8.8.6) id OAA10098 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:47:20 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:47:20 -0700 (MST) From: Stuart Biggar Message-Id: <199902052147.OAA10098@europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Memory/HDD on 385ED X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > >> FWIW, my personal choice from the entire TP or Armada line is the TP600. > > > > You do have a good point. What is the real difference between the > > 770X and the 600 anyways? > > > > video and audio features and 14.1" screen available on the 770X with > additional weight and case size > > I don't need the additional video and audio capabilities, and since > portability is important to me, the additional size and weight to get the > 14.1" screen isn't worth it for my needs. > If you need lots of disk space, the 770 series can accept 2 internal HDs - that means up to 28 GB with the new 14 GB HDs or 16 with the old 8 GB ones. Similarly if you want long run time on battery, the 770 series can accept 2 4.5 amp-hr LiIon batteries (one goes in the ultra bay in place of the CD/floppy/2nd HD). Does the 600 offer the nifty 1280-1024 screen (13.7" with 8 MB of video RAM) of the new 770 (95498AU/BU) models? I don't see it on the IBM 600 web page. Stuart From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 5 18:30:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA25435 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:30:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02030; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:29:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:28:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01888; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:28:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer.cia-g.com (root@mailer.cia-g.com [207.66.82.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01857; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:28:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from cia-g.com (gup-049-dpm2.cia-g.com [207.66.82.129]) by mailer.cia-g.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24158; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:27:48 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36BB7EAC.63906DF9@cia-g.com> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:28:44 -0700 From: Wade Brillig Reply-To: brillig@cia-g.com Organization: Picture Rock Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manson Mak , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad 850 References: <003f01be514f$371a76a0$5450bace@manson> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have had superb luck... only difficulty is expensive shipping when purchasing and in shipping when getting repairs and adjustments... They basically treat you like you bought new most of the time. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 5 22:07:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA27500 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:07:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09716; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:06:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:03:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09557; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:03:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay1.smtp.psi.net (relay1.smtp.psi.net [38.8.14.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09543; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:03:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from [204.5.147.3] (helo=exch1.smh.com) by relay1.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 108y1n-0004Ox-00; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:03:27 -0500 Received: by exch1.smh.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <1GSHDZK2>; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:57:42 -0500 Message-ID: <40E8526E9CA4D011A45800805FFEAEDB061FD7EC@exch1.smh.com> From: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" To: "'Jane Loyless '" , "'ThinkPad Mailing List '" Subject: RE: Memory/HDD on 385ED Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:57:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" List-Unsubscribe: Greetings, I've had the 600 since about July. It is great for traveling and using in multiple locations. The size is great. The weight is great. I've had the 770ED since December. It's perfect as a desktop replacement. The screen is fabulous (side by side, it puts the 13.3 inch 600 screen in the shade) and the built in features (enhanced video adapter) make it great for video capture and watching TV(via video in and a vcr out jack). It is way heavier than the 600 and is a less elegant design. The ultraslimbay in the 600 does everything the 770's ultrabay does in about half the volume. IMHO, if you're going to be lugging your PC through airports, don't go for anything BIGGER THAN a 600 (and it's really too large to deal with in an airplane in coach: the screen is just too big). If your laptop is basically a desktop ornament, the 770 can't be beat (and it is still luggable in a pinch). Regards, Neil Halvey TP 770ED 128mB TP 600 96mB TP 701C (classic) 20mB -----Original Message----- From: Jane Loyless To: ThinkPad Mailing List Sent: 2/5/99 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Memory/HDD on 385ED At 12:06 PM 2/5/99 -0800, Vincent Poy wrote: >> FWIW, my personal choice from the entire TP or Armada line is the TP600. > > You do have a good point. What is the real difference between the > 770X and the 600 anyways? > video and audio features and 14.1" screen available on the 770X with additional weight and case size I don't need the additional video and audio capabilities, and since portability is important to me, having to lug the additional size and weight around to get the 14.1" screen isn't worth it for my needs. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 6 16:05:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05381 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:05:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12317; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:05:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:01:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11780; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11627; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 15:59:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hetherington.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA08835; Sat, 6 Feb 99 09:29:33 EST Message-Id: <36BC5194.8B6F7562@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 09:28:36 -0500 From: Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science, Spoken Language Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Stuart Biggar Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Memory/HDD on 385ED References: <199902052147.OAA10098@europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The 600 can take a second hard drive in the ultraslimbay. Currently I believe the largest drives that a fit a 600 (at least from IBM) are 6.4GB, but maybe they have something bigger in the works. The 600E can take a second battery, but it is different from the main battery. --Lee From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 6 16:20:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05560 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:20:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13581; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:20:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:19:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13433; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:19:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [207.211.168.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13404; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:19:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from wabio (user-38ld1ob.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.135.11]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA20473 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:18:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990206160204.00a296a0@mail.newsguy.com> X-Sender: wicket@mail.newsguy.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:18:38 -0500 To: From: Alan Wong Subject: Extra HD on TP600E In-Reply-To: <40E8526E9CA4D011A45800805FFEAEDB061FD7EC@exch1.smh.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I recently aquired a rarely used Apricorn 5.1 gig HD that was used in a Dell Laptop. If I'm correct, I can use this in the UItraslim Bay. What would I need in order to install this.....new bezel and HD holder? Thanks, Alan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 6 16:30:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05670 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:30:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14684; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:30:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:29:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14277; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:28:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14220; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:28:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from munx (user-38ld14c.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.132.140]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA16584 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:28:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990206163213.00a6f9c0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: highwire@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:34:09 -0500 To: From: Greg Lara Subject: RE: Memory/HDD on 385ED In-Reply-To: <40E8526E9CA4D011A45800805FFEAEDB061FD7EC@exch1.smh.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:57 PM 2/5/99 -0500, Dr. Cornelius Halvey wrote: >If your laptop is basically a desktop ornament, the 770 >can't be beat (and it is still luggable in a pinch). Just curious, why would anyone pay for a laptop to get a desktop, which normally costs much less? Size? Greg Lara From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 6 16:54:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05906 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:54:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16767; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:54:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16641; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:53:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay1.smtp.psi.net (relay1.smtp.psi.net [38.8.14.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16601; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [204.5.147.3] (helo=exch1.smh.com) by relay1.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 109Ff2-0006YX-00; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:53:08 -0500 Received: by exch1.smh.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <1GSHD5L1>; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:47:22 -0500 Message-ID: <40E8526E9CA4D011A45800805FFEAEDB063111B3@exch1.smh.com> From: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" To: Greg Lara , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Memory/HDD on 385ED Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:47:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: Well,=20 When you do have to lug it-if only once a month-the Thinkpad at 8 = pounds or so beats a 30 pound CPU and 50 pound monitor. IMHO. Also, for me, the ability to share hard drives and other accessories via the ultrabay is = an advantage not easily duplicated on a desktop. If I=92m lugging the = laptop daily, 5 pounds versus 8 pounds is very significant. Later Neil -----Original Message----- From: Greg Lara [SMTP:greg@highwire.net] Sent: Saturday, February 06, 1999 4:34 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Memory/HDD on 385ED At 09:57 PM 2/5/99 -0500, Dr. Cornelius Halvey wrote: >If your laptop is basically a desktop ornament, the 770=20 >can't be beat (and it is still luggable in a pinch). Just curious, why would anyone pay for a laptop to get a desktop, which normally costs much less? Size? Greg Lara From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 6 18:12:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA07864 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 18:12:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22709; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 18:11:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Feb 1999 18:10:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22623; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 18:10:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22610; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 18:10:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hetherington.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA10137; Sat, 6 Feb 99 18:10:30 EST Message-Id: <36BCCBAB.C3C6C8EF@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 18:09:31 -0500 From: Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science, Spoken Language Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Wong Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Extra HD on TP600E References: <4.1.19990206160204.00a296a0@mail.newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: IBM makes a drive adaptor for the ultraslim bay. It costs about $30. It is easy to swap drives into and out of the adaptor (no screws). --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 7 10:05:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA15340 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:05:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03437; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:05:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:02:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00510; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 09:47:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (root@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00370; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 09:47:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA09298; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 03:34:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 03:34:36 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Greg Lara cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Memory/HDD on 385ED In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990206163213.00a6f9c0@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Greg Lara wrote: > At 09:57 PM 2/5/99 -0500, Dr. Cornelius Halvey wrote: > >If your laptop is basically a desktop ornament, the 770 > >can't be beat (and it is still luggable in a pinch). > > Just curious, why would anyone pay for a laptop to get a desktop, which > normally costs much less? Size? Well, i guess it depends because some people like me need the power of the desktop that I can move around the house and also outside since I run a ISP and I do lots of stock trading and stuff like that. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 7 10:12:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA15409 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:12:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04575; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:12:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:11:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00512; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 09:47:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (root@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00358; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 09:47:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA09307; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 03:36:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 03:36:05 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" cc: Greg Lara , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Memory/HDD on 385ED In-Reply-To: <40E8526E9CA4D011A45800805FFEAEDB063111B3@exch1.smh.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id KAA04575 On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Dr. Cornelius Halvey wrote: > Well,=20 >=20 > When you do have to lug it-if only once a month-the Thinkpad at 8 pound= s or > so beats a 30 pound CPU and 50 pound monitor. IMHO. Also, for me, the > ability to share hard drives and other accessories via the ultrabay is = an > advantage not easily duplicated on a desktop. If I=92m lugging the lap= top > daily, 5 pounds versus 8 pounds is very significant. You have a good point. Except that for me, 8 pounds versus 5 pounds doesn't seem to make that big of a difference especially considering the weight of the Carrying cases from both Targus and Port. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ __= __=20 Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__= ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __= ] ] =20 Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __= ] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[__= __] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 7 10:16:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA15451 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:16:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05607; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:15:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:12:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00500; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 09:47:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (root@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.72]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00392; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 09:47:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA09279; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 03:32:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 03:32:48 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Lee Hetherington cc: Stuart Biggar , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Memory/HDD on 385ED In-Reply-To: <36BC5194.8B6F7562@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Lee Hetherington wrote: > The 600 can take a second hard drive in the ultraslimbay. Currently I > believe the largest drives that a fit a 600 (at least from IBM) are > 6.4GB, but maybe they have something bigger in the works. The 600E can > take a second battery, but it is different from the main battery. Thanks for the insight. Speaking about going from the 385ED to the 600/770 series... Besides the OS, what is actually different in the installed programs or utilities because I plan to just make a drive copy of the old drive to the new and I was wondering if there is a list somewhere of what else I need to install to my base system like drivers, etc to Win98 so that it'll have all the functions of what the new machine ships with in Win98. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 7 10:16:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA15456 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05637; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:16:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:13:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04847; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:13:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (root@lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04704; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:12:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from chipie (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id LAA07044 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:39:50 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199902070939.LAA07044@lohi.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 11:37:52 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Maximum Upgrades - any experience? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.52 List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I'm considering sending my TP701C to Maximum Upgrades (www.maxup.com) for a CPU replacement (i486/50 -> AMD5x86P75). Anyone with experience (positive or negative) about the company? Btw, thanks to all of you who kindly helped me with the TP560 port replicator. Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 7 10:40:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA15699 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:40:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10592; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:40:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:39:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10317; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:39:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (root@avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.150.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10275; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:38:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.167.101]) by avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA21801 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:57:47 +0100 (MET) Received: (from utcke@localhost) by asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) id MAA21226 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:57:28 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199902071157.MAA21226@asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: 701C: Battery doesn't charge? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:57:27 +0100 (MET) From: sven.utcke@gmx.de (Sven Utcke) Reply-to: sven.utcke@gmx.de (Sven Utcke) Phone: +49-(0)761-203-8274 Fax: +49-(0)761-203-8262 Address: Albert-Ludwigs-Universitaet Freiburg, Institut fuer Informatik Address: Lehrstuhl fuer Mustererkennung und Bildverarbeitung X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I finally found a 701C I could buy. It's a German model (2630-TF4 --- I didn't even know there was such a thing, it certainly isn't mentioned in twbook.pdf), which means it doesn't come with builtin modem (Sigh!). Apart from that (and the keyboard, which feels kind'a odd) it's a lovely machine. BUT: The battery wont charge! Battery-meter is at 0%, and pressing Fn-F1 tells me: "Batterie fehlerhaft" (battery defective). However, when I bought the computer, the guy was actually running of the battery. Admittedly only for a few minutes, but still. And I can measure the following voltage over the four contacts: 0 0 0 0 |9.3| | | |__3.2__| | |____11.0___| which looks alright (although I have to admit that I have no idea what the voltage should be!). My first thought would have been that the internal charger is maybe defective, and the guy was showing me the computer with a battery he charged in a separate charger. Only: He didn't even know whether this is the DX4 or DX2 (heck, he didn't even know what a 486 is), how much memory it got, or how much HDD. He had just used it as a typewriter, and is selling it because he's getting a better "typewriter" from his wife, who's working at HP --- at least that's what he told me... So, what could I do? Any recommendations? The laptop is out of warranty (11/95), and at any rate came without papers (although it got papers for pretty much anything else --- CD-ROM, modem, even SmartSuite --- he didn't have any for the computer proper. He said he bought it second-hand from a friend at IBM). Any help appreciated Sven PS: the Battery is the NiMH one, 10.8V, 1.9mAh. It does not fit to well into the battery bay --- you have to use quite some force for it to snap in. -- _ _ Lehrstuhl fuer Mustererkennung und Bildverarbeitung | |_ __ | |__ Sven Utcke | | ' \| '_ \ phone: +49 761 203 8274 Am Flughafen 17 |_|_|_|_|_.__/ fax : +49 761 203 8262 79110 Freiburg i. Brsg. mailto:utcke@informatik.uni-freiburg.de www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~utcke From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 7 11:10:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA15979 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:10:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15052; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:10:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:08:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14632; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:08:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14604; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:08:30 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from Arminvali@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id XYSNa04795 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:07:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <82da7a1d.36bdba53@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:07:47 EST To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Thanks for the help. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 230 List-Unsubscribe: To all of you who helped me with getting a utility disk for my 365XD. I was able to get all the drivers I needed at Thinkpad Driver Site: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3PLLKA.html Thanks From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 7 16:49:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA19445 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:49:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11522; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:49:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:47:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11336; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:47:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.1.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11292; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:45:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.2.12]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22598 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:34:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 7 Feb 99 22:34:13 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.44); 7 Feb 99 22:33:54 +0200 Received: from mail.stelarcom.de (132.187.248.74) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 7 Feb 99 22:33:48 +0200 Received: from voyager.stelarcom.de (voyager.stelarcom.de [192.168.0.10] ) by mail.stelarcom.de (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:36:12 -0100 Message-Id: <199902072236.1232852.7@mail.stelarcom.de> From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 22:25:14 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Alexander Wagner" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problem: Hibernationfile List-Unsubscribe: Hi! After hours of working on this problem: Can anybody tell me how I could create a working hibernation file? (Yes, I read the manuals...) Seems an odd question, but if I try to "Enable Hibernation" in ThinkPad-Features the whole machine freezes! I've to use the power switch to reboot. If I use ThinkPad Tools it's the same. Additionally after creation of hibernation file the whole filesystem of the hibernation partition (I use a separete one called Scratch which is FAT16) is destroyed. TP Features will freeze the machine even on opening if I don't reformat the HDD. I've tried this on several OSes, it's __not__ OS-related. Additionally I'd like to underline that not the OS crashes, it's the ThinkPad itself (i.e. the hardware) which freezes. HDD indicator is off (which seems a bit strange to me) and the TP doesn't write to the HDD at all a view seconds after initializing the hibernation file. System: 760XD, Mod. No.: 9546U9E 3COM Creditcard Ethernet 3C589D (No other cards besides) 88MB RAM BIOS: V2.10 (21.05.1998) TP-Features: V4.10 HDD-Setup: HDD Name Partition Ptyp FStyp Status Start Size 1 0000003f : 1 0a 2 0 3 1 OpenDOS C: 1 06 1 3 51 1 OS/2 D: 2 07 1 55 252 1 0009993f E: 2 07 0 307 1303 1 003253bf F: 2 07 0 1610 693 1 0047fbbf G: 2 06 0 2303 153 1 004cc800 : 3 00 0 2457 476 The free space should be type 83 and 82. But cause I thought that probably a Ext2 partition disturbes TP-Features I temporarily removed them. (BTW: Of course it had no effect, but after some hours one tries some strange ideas.) Additionally G: should live at the end of free space. I also tried to move it in front which had no effect either. All partitions were formated using OS/2 specifying /L, e. g. format d: /FS:HPFS /L The whole system is set up from scratch including repartitioning the HDD. -- CU/2 (( Proud to be member of Team OS/2 Europe #294 Alexander Wagner )) RTV Franken Team OS/2 Franken (( Request PGP-key Subject: Request for PGP-Keys --------------------------------------------------------------------------- You may also reply to Alexander.Wagner@gmx.de or Alexander.Wagner@gmx.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 7 17:16:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA19728 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:16:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12719; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:16:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:15:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12616; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:15:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12602; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:15:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.16.143]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990207221358.BWQS1549@770>; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:13:58 +0000 Message-ID: <36BE1014.519@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 17:13:40 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Wagner CC: ThinkPad Mailinglist Subject: Re: Problem: Hibernationfile References: <199902072236.1232852.7@mail.stelarcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I had a similar problem on my 770ED, which tunred out to be an incompatible memory chip (this is one of the ways an incompatible chip makes itself evident). Also, you need to hibernation file to be "seen" on the same partition by all the OS's on the system - I use a W95 partition, the original W95 factory partition (as backup), and a D drive FAT32. The hibernation file is on D. That way, both OS's can see it the same. The newer ThinkPads seem to be totally plug and pray, with all settings made by the OS. Thus,. if you have multiple OS with different settings, you in a heap of trouble! Alexander Wagner wrote: > > Hi! > > After hours of working on this problem: > > Can anybody tell me how I could create a working hibernation file? > > (Yes, I read the manuals...) > Seems an odd question, but if I try to "Enable Hibernation" in > ThinkPad-Features the whole machine freezes! I've to use the power switch to > reboot. If I use ThinkPad Tools it's the same. Additionally after creation of > hibernation file the whole filesystem of the hibernation partition (I use a > separete one called Scratch which is FAT16) is destroyed. TP Features will > freeze the machine even on opening if I don't reformat the HDD. > > I've tried this on several OSes, it's __not__ OS-related. Additionally I'd > like to underline that not the OS crashes, it's the ThinkPad itself (i.e. the > hardware) which freezes. HDD indicator is off (which seems a bit strange to > me) and the TP doesn't write to the HDD at all a view seconds after > initializing the hibernation file. > > System: > > 760XD, Mod. No.: 9546U9E > 3COM Creditcard Ethernet 3C589D > (No other cards besides) > 88MB RAM > BIOS: V2.10 (21.05.1998) > TP-Features: V4.10 > > HDD-Setup: > HDD Name Partition Ptyp FStyp Status Start Size > > 1 0000003f : 1 0a 2 0 3 > 1 OpenDOS C: 1 06 1 3 51 > 1 OS/2 D: 2 07 1 55 252 > 1 0009993f E: 2 07 0 307 1303 > 1 003253bf F: 2 07 0 1610 693 > 1 0047fbbf G: 2 06 0 2303 153 > 1 004cc800 : 3 00 0 2457 476 > > The free space should be type 83 and 82. But cause I thought that probably a > Ext2 partition disturbes TP-Features I temporarily removed them. (BTW: Of > course it had no effect, but after some hours one tries some strange ideas.) > > Additionally G: should live at the end of free space. I also tried to move it > in front which had no effect either. > > All partitions were formated using OS/2 specifying /L, e. g. > format d: /FS:HPFS /L > The whole system is set up from scratch including repartitioning the HDD. > -- > > CU/2 (( Proud to be member of Team OS/2 Europe #294 > Alexander Wagner )) RTV Franken > Team OS/2 Franken (( Request PGP-key Subject: Request for PGP-Keys > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > You may also reply to Alexander.Wagner@gmx.de or Alexander.Wagner@gmx.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 7 17:21:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA19777 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:21:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13104; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:21:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:20:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12989; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate1.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12950; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:20:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from paddy (mg131-030.ricochet.net [204.179.131.30]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA07880; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:19:44 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Alan Wong" , Subject: RE: Extra HD on TP600E Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:19:43 -0800 Message-ID: <001901be52e7$f61b9b80$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990206160204.00a296a0@mail.newsguy.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > I recently aquired a rarely used Apricorn 5.1 gig HD that was used in a > Dell Laptop. If I'm correct, I can use this in the UItraslim Bay. Is this a 12mm or 17mm drive? It has to be 12mm or less. If you're not sure, pull the drive out of your 600E and see how they compare. The new one has to be as thin or thinner. If it's thin enough, you need the "ThinkPad 600 UltraslimBay HDD Adapter", which you can find at: http://shopper.com/prdct/973/472.html The bare drive will fit OK all by itself in the UltraslimBay HDD Adapter, but it's a bit loose. For example, if you turn the machine upside down to pull the HDD Adapter out, the drive may well fall out of it. You'll get a much more secure fit if you spend $20 with Bill Morrow at www.thinkpads.com and get the ThinkPad 600 drive mounting tray. It's the same thing that's attached to the drive you currently have in the 600. Once the drive is mounted in the tray, it fits snugly in the HDD Adapter. Bill may have the UltraslimBay HDD Adapter too, so I'd check with him first on the whole thing. -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 7 17:22:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA19793 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13324; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:22:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:21:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13218; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:21:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate1.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13185; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:21:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from paddy (mg131-030.ricochet.net [204.179.131.30]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA08035; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:21:11 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Lee Hetherington" , "Alan Wong" Cc: Subject: RE: Extra HD on TP600E Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:21:10 -0800 Message-ID: <001a01be52e8$29f169d0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <36BCCBAB.C3C6C8EF@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > IBM makes a drive adaptor for the ultraslim bay. It costs about $30. > It is easy to swap drives into and out of the adaptor (no screws). I don't recommend putting a bare drive in the UltraslimBay HDD Adapter. It's much too loose a fit. For example, if you turn the machine upside down and pull the HDD Adapter out, the drive just might fall right out of it. It's better to spend another $20 and get one of the TP600 drive mounting trays from Bill Morrow. -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 7 17:30:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA19891 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:30:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13993; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:30:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:30:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13878; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:30:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (root@lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13864; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:29:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from chipie (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id AAA01630 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:30:47 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199902072230.AAA01630@lohi.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:29:50 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199902072236.1232852.7@mail.stelarcom.de> Subject: Re: Problem: Hibernationfile X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.52 List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 07 Feb 1999 at 10:25 PM you, "Alexander Wagner" , said: >Can anybody tell me how I could create a working hibernation file? I don't know if this is of any help with your 760XD, but I have been able to create a working hibernation file on an HPFS partition of my TP701 by following Tim Sipples' instructions at http://www.secant.com/sipples/tpad701.htm From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 7 17:48:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA20095 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:48:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14714; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:48:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:47:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14625; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:47:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14611; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:47:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from theriver.com (a14.pm3-45.theriver.com [206.102.195.222]) by pantano.theriver.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15841; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:47:02 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36BE17FB.2C5114E5@theriver.com> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 15:47:23 -0700 From: James J Mckenzie Reply-To: os2support@theriver.com Organization: None X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Wagner CC: ThinkPad Mailinglist Subject: Re: Problem: Hibernationfile References: <199902072236.1232852.7@mail.stelarcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Which partition(s) are you trying to create the hibernation file on? Also, try reducing your memory less than 64MB. I suggest creating it on your C: partition, just make sure that you have at least your installed memory + video memory size + 1MB free. James Alexander Wagner wrote: > > Hi! > > After hours of working on this problem: > > Can anybody tell me how I could create a working hibernation file? > > (Yes, I read the manuals...) > Seems an odd question, but if I try to "Enable Hibernation" in > ThinkPad-Features the whole machine freezes! I've to use the power switch to > reboot. If I use ThinkPad Tools it's the same. Additionally after creation of > hibernation file the whole filesystem of the hibernation partition (I use a > separete one called Scratch which is FAT16) is destroyed. TP Features will > freeze the machine even on opening if I don't reformat the HDD. > > I've tried this on several OSes, it's __not__ OS-related. Additionally I'd > like to underline that not the OS crashes, it's the ThinkPad itself (i.e. the > hardware) which freezes. HDD indicator is off (which seems a bit strange to > me) and the TP doesn't write to the HDD at all a view seconds after > initializing the hibernation file. > > System: > > 760XD, Mod. No.: 9546U9E > 3COM Creditcard Ethernet 3C589D > (No other cards besides) > 88MB RAM > BIOS: V2.10 (21.05.1998) > TP-Features: V4.10 > > HDD-Setup: > HDD Name Partition Ptyp FStyp Status Start Size > > 1 0000003f : 1 0a 2 0 3 > 1 OpenDOS C: 1 06 1 3 51 > 1 OS/2 D: 2 07 1 55 252 > 1 0009993f E: 2 07 0 307 1303 > 1 003253bf F: 2 07 0 1610 693 > 1 0047fbbf G: 2 06 0 2303 153 > 1 004cc800 : 3 00 0 2457 476 > > The free space should be type 83 and 82. But cause I thought that probably a > Ext2 partition disturbes TP-Features I temporarily removed them. (BTW: Of > course it had no effect, but after some hours one tries some strange ideas.) > > Additionally G: should live at the end of free space. I also tried to move it > in front which had no effect either. > > All partitions were formated using OS/2 specifying /L, e. g. > format d: /FS:HPFS /L > The whole system is set up from scratch including repartitioning the HDD. > -- > > CU/2 (( Proud to be member of Team OS/2 Europe #294 > Alexander Wagner )) RTV Franken > Team OS/2 Franken (( Request PGP-key Subject: Request for PGP-Keys > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > You may also reply to Alexander.Wagner@gmx.de or Alexander.Wagner@gmx.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 7 19:58:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA21279 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:58:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18864; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:57:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:57:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18751; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:56:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18716; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:55:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-228.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.228]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA14625 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:54:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990207195927.009c7ae0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 19:59:27 -0500 To: From: Mark Bell Subject: WTB: 12.5mm 2.5" HD In-Reply-To: <001901be52e7$f61b9b80$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> References: <4.1.19990206160204.00a296a0@mail.newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone upgraded their notebook HD, and has a bare 12.5mm or less, 2.5" HD for sale? 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Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 7 20:16:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA21405 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 20:16:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19618; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 20:16:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Feb 1999 20:16:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19535; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 20:16:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (imail@ha1.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19522; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 20:16:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from c137355-a ([24.2.197.152]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990208011558.MVVJ23334.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@c137355-a>; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:15:58 -0800 From: "Scott A. Stratmoen" To: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Cc: Subject: Warning about Duncan MacKinnon - Conduct no business with him Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:16:05 -0600 Message-ID: <000001be5300$99bc1c20$0101a8c0@c137355-a.mntp1.il.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: I am sorry to bother people on this list with such a message but I feel people should be warned about Duncan MacKinnon. Mr. MacKinnon received a Thinkpad 770 24X CDROM drive from me for $100 but never remitted payment. I have attempted multiple times to collect $100 or the return of the drive. My advice is DO NOT conduct business with Duncan MacKinnon. Attached below is a log of the transaction. -----Original Message----- From: Duncan MacKinnon [mailto:duncan@substance.com] Sent: Monday, December 21, 1998 3:32 AM To: Scott A. Stratmoen Subject: RE: 770 cdrom Hi Scott, Thanks for shipping drive. I just did a track on it and it just left IL. about 3 hours ago. I'll keep you informed and get a check out to you as soon as it gets here. It was a pleasure to talk to you when we last spoke. Have a great holiday season if I don't write to you till after Xmas. I haven't put up the free Word Perfect yet. (I'm still in denial about past WP experiences.) The reports I've heard about it have be mostly very good. It seems to load and perform very fast even on older hardware. Be Well, Duncan Duncan MacKinnon | Remember the map is duncan@substance.com | not the territory! voice/messages 415.731.6978 | fax 415.681.8991 | On Sun, 20 Dec 1998, Scott A. Stratmoen wrote: > The package went out UPS with a tracking number of 1Z 611 X01 03 1505 263 5. > It was not sent COD, thus please send money to the following address when > you get the drive, > [Address deleted]][][[ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan MacKinnon [mailto:duncan@substance.com] > Sent: Monday, December 14, 1998 9:44 AM > To: Scott A. Stratmoen > Subject: RE: 770 cdrom > > > > Thanks again Scott. Let me know tracking number when you ship so I know to > when to expect it. > Shipping info again: > > Duncan MacKinnon > 1887 Funston Ave. > San Francisco, CA 94116 > > Meanwhile here is site for free WP software from Corel for Linux: > > https://livewire.corel.com/cfscripts/wpLinuxPreReg/ > > as I said it is claimed to be available very soon. > > Be Well, > Duncan > > > Duncan MacKinnon | Remember the map is > duncan@substance.com | not the territory! > voice/messages 415.731.6978 | > fax 415.681.8991 | > > > On Sun, 13 Dec 1998, Scott A. Stratmoen wrote: > > > My work phone number is 847-259-xxxx ex 4762. You can also page me at > > 847-xxx-4762. > > > > Sorry I couldn't get back to you sooner. I was shanghaied out of town on > > business! > > > > Scott > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Duncan MacKinnon [mailto:duncan@substance.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 1998 10:26 PM > > To: Scott A. Stratmoen > > Subject: Re: 770 cdrom > > > > > > On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, Scott A. Stratmoen wrote: > > > > > I managed to corrupt my email during the past week.... > > > > > > After some poking around I was able to find your email address. Is there > > > still interest in the Thinkpad CDROM drive? > > > > Hi Scott, > > I am still interested but didn't get a response to my last note asking you > > to send it. Maybe if you get this send me your phone number and I'll give > > you a call to iron out the details. > > > > Thanks, > > Duncan > > > > Duncan MacKinnon | Remember the map is > > duncan@substance.com | not the territory! > > voice/messages 415.731.6978 | > > fax 415.681.8991 | > > > > > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 7 22:44:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA23163 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:44:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25359; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:44:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:42:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25220; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:41:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (root@amber.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25203; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:41:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from sinai.ccs.neu.edu (dnb@sinai.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.104]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA23139; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:41:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dnb@localhost) by sinai.ccs.neu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id WAA01050; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:41:26 -0500 (EST) Sender: dnb@ccs.neu.edu To: Dominique Pivard Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Problem: Hibernationfile References: <199902072230.AAA01630@lohi.clinet.fi> From: dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) Date: 07 Feb 1999 22:41:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: Dominique Pivard's message of "Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:29:50 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/Emacs 19.34 List-Unsubscribe: > I don't know if this is of any help with your 760XD, but I have been > able to create a working hibernation file on an HPFS partition of my > TP701 by following Tim Sipples' instructions at > http://www.secant.com/sipples/tpad701.htm Likewise, I don't know if this is helpful, but I "ported" the REXX code in that file to Perl and used it to write a hibernation file on a FAT partition which I then successfully pointed the ps2 DOS program at. My saga (it had to do with having NTFS as the first partition) should be in the archives of this mailing list. I can send the Perl program to anyone who might find it useful. Peace, dNb From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 7 22:53:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA23323 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:53:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25918; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:51:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25818; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov (wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.50.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25804; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:51:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from dhelfrich.gsfc.nasa.gov (isdn-dial-064.gsfc.nasa.gov [198.119.49.64]) by wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28703; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:50:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00ba01be5316$1adf99c0$403177c6@dhelfrich.gsfc.nasa.gov> From: "Dan Helfrich" To: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" , "'Jane Loyless '" , "'ThinkPad Mailing List '" Subject: Re: TP600 "flightworthiness" (was Memory/HDD on 385ED) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:49:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I have used my TP600 several times on planes in coach class and haven't had a problem with the screen fitting in the space on the fold-down tray. Then again, I've got a 33" waist. :^) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel D. Helfrich, Landsat Mechanical Systems Engineer, Landsat Project NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Code 543, Greenbelt, Maryland, USA 20771 phone: (301)286-8481 fax: (301)286-1744 email: helfrich@gsfc.nasa.gov -----Original Message----- From: Dr. Cornelius Halvey To: 'Jane Loyless ' ; 'ThinkPad Mailing List ' Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 10:07 PM Subject: RE: Memory/HDD on 385ED > Greetings, > >I've had the 600 since about July. It is great for traveling and using in >multiple locations. The size is great. The weight is great. > [snip] > don't go for >anything BIGGER THAN a 600 (and it's really too large to deal with in an >airplane in coach: the screen is just too big). From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 8 00:09:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA24022 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:09:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06302; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:09:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:07:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05655; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05528; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:07:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwdesk (ppp-225-079.usc.edu [128.125.225.79]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id VAA15027; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 21:07:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990207205744.00abc6b0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 21:05:45 -0800 To: "Dan Helfrich" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: TP600 "flightworthiness" (was Memory/HDD on 385ED) In-Reply-To: <00ba01be5316$1adf99c0$403177c6@dhelfrich.gsfc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:49 PM 2/7/99 -0500, you wrote: >I have used my TP600 several times on planes in coach class and haven't had >a problem with the screen fitting in the space on the fold-down tray. Then >again, I've got a 33" waist. :^) Mine is...errr...well, 38"... Nevertheless, I do agree with you to a point. The TP 600 works fine on a coach airplane tray in my experience (it is cramped though--and you can't fold the screen at the backward angle I would prefer). However, the problem comes when the bonehead in front of you decides to lean his seat back abruptly. I swear, if I hadn't grabbed my 'pad and pulled it into my gut quickly enough, he would surely have cracked the screen as the top edge of it would have lodged in the "bay" where the tray folds into. Its a little large, no question. Never had that problem on smaller Thinkpads--even the 560. - Randy From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 8 00:53:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA24370 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:53:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10244; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:53:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:52:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10128; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1-1.bctel.ca (nfs1.bctel.ca [207.194.28.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09813; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:51:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from defiant (00-00-86-1d-bf-b1.bconnected.net [209.53.10.22]) by mail1-1.bctel.ca with SMTP id VAA15270; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 21:49:55 -0800 (PST) From: "Ryan Hung" To: "Randal Whittle" , "Dan Helfrich" , "TP List" Subject: RE: TP600 "flightworthiness" (was Memory/HDD on 385ED) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 21:50:15 -0800 Message-ID: <000001be5326$e678ed60$160a35d1@defiant.bconnected.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990207205744.00abc6b0@rcf.usc.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Yeah, I just had occasion to try it (with my, um 36" waist). You definitely can't work comfortably with the TP600 on the tray table. I had to leave it on my lap. I found what helped was if I could have my legs sloping down slightly such that the TP was sort of tilted forward. That improved the view a bit. I.e., \ \ \_______ vs. \_ \_ __- \__-- Ryan. > -----Original Message----- > From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@usa.net] > Sent: Sunday, February 07, 1999 9:06 PM > To: Dan Helfrich; TP List > Subject: Re: TP600 "flightworthiness" (was Memory/HDD on 385ED) > > > At 10:49 PM 2/7/99 -0500, you wrote: > >I have used my TP600 several times on planes in coach class and > haven't had > >a problem with the screen fitting in the space on the fold-down > tray. Then > >again, I've got a 33" waist. :^) > > Mine is...errr...well, 38"... > > Nevertheless, I do agree with you to a point. The TP 600 > works fine on a > coach airplane tray in my experience (it is cramped though--and you can't > fold the screen at the backward angle I would prefer). > > However, the problem comes when the bonehead in front of > you decides to > lean his seat back abruptly. I swear, if I hadn't grabbed my 'pad and > pulled it into my gut quickly enough, he would surely have cracked the > screen as the top edge of it would have lodged in the "bay" where the tray > folds into. > > Its a little large, no question. Never had that problem on smaller > Thinkpads--even the 560. > > - Randy > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 8 11:32:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA29244 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:32:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22977; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:31:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:27:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22490; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:27:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww184.netaddress.usa.net (ww184.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.84]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22443; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:27:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4465 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 1999 16:24:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990208162438.4464.qmail@ww184.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.84 by ww184 via web-mailer(R2.6) on Mon Feb 8 16:24:38 GMT 1999 Date: 8 Feb 99 08:24:38 PST From: Rob Bell To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Urgent Help - Dead 770 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: One of my colleagues has a 770 (9548-30U) that is dead. When turned on, = you can hear the fan but no disk noises. The screen remains completely black= =2E = The HD indicator on the LCD does not flicker on. The floppy is installed= in the UltraBay but it is not accessed. The HD works fine in another identi= cal 770. No hardware or software changes were made prior to this problem. N= o physical trauma has been inflicted on the machine. The battery is at 96%= and charges normally. The symptoms are the same whether on AC or battery. = Pressing the hardware reset switch (by power switch) does not change thin= gs. Any ideas? Seems like a dead system board to me. Any other troubleshoot= ing things that we've missed? Thanks, Rob rbell1@netscape.net ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at htt= p://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 8 13:35:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA01492 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:34:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02462; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:32:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:30:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02326; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAD (smtp4.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02284; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:30:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:30:06 -0500 Sender: bbender@csi.com Received: from brianb-tp (isdn242.vocollect.com [209.166.154.242]) by dub-img-ims-2.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id NAA26255; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:30:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian Bender" To: "'Rob Bell'" , "'ThinkPad Mailing List'" Subject: RE: Urgent Help - Dead 770 Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:30:29 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01be5391$1b11fe80$2f051fac@brianb-tp.vocollect> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <19990208162438.4464.qmail@ww184.netaddress.usa.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Maybe try removing any DIMMs it has (i.e. try with just system board RAM)? ============================================= - Brian Bender Thinkpad 600, 300MHZ, 128MB RAM, 5GB HDD Former owner of: 770 (200MHZ), 560 (120MHZ), 755CSE (DX4/100) Currently running WinNT 4.0 SP4 and playing with Linux afterhours... > On Monday, February 08, 1999 11:25 AM, Rob Bell wrote: > > > One of my colleagues has a 770 (9548-30U) that is dead. When > turned on, you > can hear the fan but no disk noises. The screen remains > completely black. > The HD indicator on the LCD does not flicker on. The floppy > is installed in > the UltraBay but it is not accessed. The HD works fine in > another identical > 770. No hardware or software changes were made prior to this > problem. No > physical trauma has been inflicted on the machine. The > battery is at 96% and > charges normally. The symptoms are the same whether on AC or > battery. > Pressing the hardware reset switch (by power switch) does not > change things. > > Any ideas? Seems like a dead system board to me. Any other > troubleshooting > things that we've missed? > > Thanks, > Rob > > rbell1@netscape.net > > ____________________________________________________________________ > More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account > today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 8 21:01:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA08198 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:01:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27894; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:57:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27667; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27641; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:56:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from dante22.u.washington.edu (williams@dante22.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.72]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA18284 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 17:04:34 -0800 Received: from localhost (williams@localhost) by dante22.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA84444 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 17:04:33 -0800 Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 17:04:33 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Williams" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Modem strings / battery life / Ultrabay Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, Can I use modem strings with the 770ED (especially to set a lower limit on connect speeds)? Can I change any system settings to increase my data throughput when I am connected to the internet? Any recommedations? How long does the battery typically last before replacing? I am thinking about getting an extra. Also, can I have two batteries in the 770 at once? Will they both charge at the same time? Can I have both the DVD and floppy installed and just run off of AC power? Thanks, John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 8 22:15:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA08812 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:15:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01672; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:15:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:13:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01497; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:13:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from kramer.ne.mediaone.net (IDENT:root@kramer.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.125.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01449; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:12:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from kramer.ne.mediaone.net (lightning.ne.mediaone.net [192.168.1.2]) by kramer.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA01303 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:12:04 -0500 Message-ID: <36BFA790.47902FE0@kramer.ne.mediaone.net> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 22:12:16 -0500 From: David Kramer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad mailing list Subject: Error 174 with new hard drive. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a Thinkpad 755c (9545-F0E). I want to upgrade the HD from 340MB to a BIG HONKIN drive, as I mentioned in a previous post. I had a problem in that I didn't have a battery to use to upgrade the BIOS with (the upgrade program insists you have both AC and Battery working at the same time in order to perform the upgrade). Thanks to the very generous loan of a battery by listmember J.H.E. Maugham, I was able to do the upgrade to 1.43. However, I'm still getting the same error I was before the BIOS upgrade when I put my 3.2GB drive in: an error 174. Obviously the drive isn't formatted, but I can't do anything, because it won't even let me get into the BIOS setup as long as I have the new hard drive in. With the old hard drive, everything works fine again. Since I bought the laptop used (duh, they don't sell that many new 486/50'ss these days), I don't have any kind of disks or manual with it. The support website has not been extremely helpful. It listed two utility disks. One loaded a setup utility that ran in Windows, but didn't have anything related to "Hey, I have a new hard drive! Wanna hear about it?", and the other disk said it wasn't for my machine, even though the website said it was. So a quick recap: - Have a 340MB hard drive, works fine. - I put in an unformatted 3.2GB hard drive, and when it boots I get a 174 error (whatever that is- the description on the website was meaningless). It won't let me get into the BIOS setup, but I can eventually boot from floppy. - I upgraded the BIOS to 1.43 - Same results. ? Is there a way, like in a desktop PC BIOS, to tell it what kind of HD you have? ? Is there a way to get a more descriptive diagnosis? Thanks in advance. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- DDDD David Kramer david@kramer.ne.mediaone.net DK KD http://start.at/david.kramer DKK D DK KD Feudalism: When it's your Count that votes. DDDD From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 8 23:53:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA09974 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:53:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05811; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:52:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:49:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05601; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:49:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05493; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:48:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial6.vramp.net (dial6.vramp.net [209.107.20.21]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA03160; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:47:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902090447.XAA03160@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: David Kramer , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:45:55 -0500 Subject: Re: Error 174 with new hard drive. Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <36BFA790.47902FE0@kramer.ne.mediaone.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 8 Feb 99, at 22:12, David Kramer wrote: > However, I'm still getting the same error I was before the BIOS upgrade > when I put my 3.2GB drive in: an error 174. Obviously the drive isn't > formatted, but I can't do anything, because it won't even let me get into > the BIOS setup as long as I have the new hard drive in. With the old hard > drive, everything works fine again. I know this is going to sound like a stupid question Dave, but did you check to make sure there's no jumpers installed on jumper 1 or 2? Is the drive spinning up? Could you have gotten a dead drive at that computer fair? James From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 9 00:11:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA10169 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:11:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06861; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:11:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:09:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06738; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06710; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:09:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl8-51.gate.net [199.227.131.242]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA19636; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:08:18 -0500 Message-ID: <36BFC2B9.6372F749@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:08:09 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Kramer CC: thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: Error 174 with new hard drive. References: <36BFA790.47902FE0@kramer.ne.mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: David.. your problem is common, and, if the HDD is OK, then simple to remedy.. BUT i need more info.. 1. HOW are you connecting the HDD to the 755 ? 2. what brand is it..? David Kramer wrote: > I have a Thinkpad 755c (9545-F0E). I want to upgrade the HD from 340MB > to a BIG HONKIN drive, as I mentioned in a previous post. I had a > problem in that I didn't have a battery to use to upgrade the BIOS with > (the upgrade program insists you have both AC and Battery working at the > same time in order to perform the upgrade). Thanks to the very generous > loan of a battery by listmember J.H.E. Maugham, I was able to do the > upgrade to 1.43. > > However, I'm still getting the same error I was before the BIOS upgrade > when I put my 3.2GB drive in: an error 174. Obviously the drive isn't > formatted, but I can't do anything, because it won't even let me get > into the BIOS setup as long as I have the new hard drive in. With the > old hard drive, everything works fine again. > > Since I bought the laptop used (duh, they don't sell that many new > 486/50'ss these days), I don't have any kind of disks or manual with it. > The support website has not been extremely helpful. It listed two > utility disks. One loaded a setup utility that ran in Windows, but > didn't have anything related to "Hey, I have a new hard drive! Wanna > hear about it?", and the other disk said it wasn't for my machine, even > though the website said it was. > > So a quick recap: > - Have a 340MB hard drive, works fine. > - I put in an unformatted 3.2GB hard drive, and when it boots I get a > 174 error (whatever that is- the description on the website was > meaningless). It won't let me get into the BIOS setup, but I can > eventually boot from floppy. > - I upgraded the BIOS to 1.43 > - Same results. > > ? Is there a way, like in a desktop PC BIOS, to tell it what kind of HD > you have? > ? Is there a way to get a more descriptive diagnosis? > > Thanks in advance. > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > DDDD David Kramer david@kramer.ne.mediaone.net > DK KD http://start.at/david.kramer > DKK D > DK KD Feudalism: When it's your Count that votes. > DDDD -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 9 00:17:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA10244 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:17:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07231; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:16:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:15:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07097; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:15:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07055; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:14:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl8-51.gate.net [199.227.131.242]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA18598; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:14:15 -0500 Message-ID: <36BFC424.E79E8F2C@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:14:12 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randal Whittle CC: Dan Helfrich , TP List Subject: Re: TP600 "flightworthiness" (was Memory/HDD on 385ED) References: <4.1.19990207205744.00abc6b0@rcf.usc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Randy.. i wonder who would be responsible if the idiot in the seat in front DID bust up your thinkpad..? i can just imagine the hoohaw as the idiot says "Prove i broke your toy".. ! Randal Whittle wrote: > At 10:49 PM 2/7/99 -0500, you wrote: > >I have used my TP600 several times on planes in coach class and haven't had > >a problem with the screen fitting in the space on the fold-down tray. Then > >again, I've got a 33" waist. :^) > > Mine is...errr...well, 38"... > > Nevertheless, I do agree with you to a point. The TP 600 works fine on a > coach airplane tray in my experience (it is cramped though--and you can't > fold the screen at the backward angle I would prefer). > > However, the problem comes when the bonehead in front of you decides to > lean his seat back abruptly. I swear, if I hadn't grabbed my 'pad and > pulled it into my gut quickly enough, he would surely have cracked the > screen as the top edge of it would have lodged in the "bay" where the tray > folds into. > > Its a little large, no question. Never had that problem on smaller > Thinkpads--even the 560. > > - Randy -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 9 00:22:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA10293 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:22:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07970; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:21:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:20:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07810; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:20:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07796; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:20:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl8-51.gate.net [199.227.131.242]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA13888; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:18:48 -0500 Message-ID: <36BFC53A.A9F9925F@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:18:50 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Bell CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: WTB: 12.5mm 2.5" HD References: <4.1.19990206160204.00a296a0@mail.newsguy.com> <3.0.1.32.19990207195927.009c7ae0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Mark.. i have some new 720meg drives.. Mark Bell wrote: > Has anyone upgraded their notebook HD, and has a bare 12.5mm or less, 2.5" > HD for sale? Capacity has to be greater than 200megs up to 2.1gigs. I need > a few of these, thanks! > > ------------------------------------------------- > Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting > 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 > Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net > ------------------------------------------------- > Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic > RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. > Network and System consultation and installation > -------------------------------------------------- -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 9 00:23:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA10303 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:23:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08073; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:23:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:21:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07919; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:21:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from out4.ibm.net (out4.ibm.net [165.87.194.239]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07870; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:21:22 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from ibm.net (slip166-72-243-5.va.us.ibm.net [166.72.243.5]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id FAA109676; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 05:21:17 GMT Message-ID: <36BFC5C1.A06BF75B@ibm.net> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:21:05 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List , "J. Williams" Subject: Re: Modem strings / battery life / Ultrabay References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: "J. Williams" wrote: > Hi, > > Can I use modem strings with the 770ED (especially to set a > lower limit on > connect speeds)? Yes you can use modem strings. You can also set a lower limit on connect speeds through the ACP Modem Graphical Interface - just a couple of mouse clicks. > Can I change any system settings to increase my data throughput > when I am > connected to the internet? Any recommedations? I am experimenting with this one myself. Would love to hear of any ideas. > How long does the battery typically last before replacing? I > am thinking > about getting an extra. My 770ED gets about 3 hours if I use power management. You will have to experiment to see what works best for you based on your type of usage. > Also, can I have two batteries in the 770 at once? Will they > both > charge at the same time? Yes you can have two batteries in at the same time. No they will not both charge at the same time - the system will charge one and then when it is finished it will automatically switch to the next and charge it. > Can I have both the DVD and floppy installed and just run off > of AC power? No, neither the DVD drive or floppy can be used in the battery compartment. You can use both at the same time by inserting the DVD drive in the UltraBay and attaching the floppy externally via the supplied cable. Hope this helps. Rob From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 9 00:30:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA10375 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08835; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:30:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:29:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08668; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:29:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08597; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:28:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl8-51.gate.net [199.227.131.242]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA56666; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:28:16 -0500 Message-ID: <36BFC76D.62047BDD@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:28:13 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Wong CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Extra HD on TP600E References: <4.1.19990206160204.00a296a0@mail.newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: if its a 17mm HDD it won't fit the TP-600 Alan Wong wrote: > Hello, > > I recently aquired a rarely used Apricorn 5.1 gig HD that was used in a > Dell Laptop. If I'm correct, I can use this in the UItraslim Bay. > > What would I need in order to install this.....new bezel and HD holder? > > Thanks, > Alan -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 9 00:33:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA10398 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:33:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09183; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:32:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:30:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08885; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:30:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08852; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl8-51.gate.net [199.227.131.242]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA20260; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:30:22 -0500 Message-ID: <36BFC7E4.CEB67195@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:30:12 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dominique Pivard CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Maximum Upgrades - any experience? References: <199902070939.LAA07044@lohi.clinet.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: don't know about maxup, but i recently used portable enhancements and they were very professional.. max memory is 40meg using a 32meg part.. Dominique Pivard wrote: > Hi, > > I'm considering sending my TP701C to Maximum Upgrades (www.maxup.com) for > a CPU replacement (i486/50 -> AMD5x86P75). Anyone with experience > (positive or negative) about the company? > > Btw, thanks to all of you who kindly helped me with the TP560 port > replicator. > > Dominique > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Dominique Pivard > Helsinki, Finland > ----------------------------------------------------------- -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 9 14:03:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA17828 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:03:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27633; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:00:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:55:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27046; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:54:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from kramer.ne.mediaone.net (IDENT:root@kramer.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.125.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26949; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:53:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from kramer.ne.mediaone.net (lightning.ne.mediaone.net [192.168.1.2]) by kramer.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA02494; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:53:20 -0500 Message-ID: <36C08434.D10EEA00@kramer.ne.mediaone.net> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 13:53:40 -0500 From: David Kramer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Morrow CC: thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: Error 174 with new hard drive. References: <36BFA790.47902FE0@kramer.ne.mediaone.net> <36BFC2B9.6372F749@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id OAA27633 Bill Morrow wrote: >=20 > David.. > your problem is common, and, if the HDD is OK, then simple to remedy.. > BUT > i need more info.. > 1. HOW are you connecting the HDD to the 755 ? I have a caddy to put it inside the laptop. My 340MB works in the new caddy fine, so I know the caddy is OK. To be honest< I got so sick of ripping open the caddy and closing it again as I try different things, today I put some thin phone wire through the screw holes in the ribbon cable connector so I can pull it out again, and put the drive in without the caddy. Not a good long-term solution, I know. > 2. what brand is it..? IBM DTCA-23240 (The website calls it a Travelstar 4GT). 3250MB 630CYL 16HD 63 SECT/TRK Now hunting around the storage.ibm.com website, it looks all the world to me from http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/dtca/dtca.pdf that the pins are in the wrong order! The pin 1 on the hard drive (there are no markings on the HD) appears to be next to the jumpers while the markings on the ribbon cable indicate pin 1 is on the other side. Is this possible? They are both polarized. Someone suggested I might have jumpers on the HD. The only connector is the one in back, so if there were any jumpers on I wouldn't be able to fit the ribbon connector on. Someone asked if the drive spins up. It does. "p machule" offered to look up 00174 for me. The web page says: 174 (Perform 'Checking the Installed Devices List=B4 before changing any FRUs.)=20 1. Check Device Configuration. 2. System Board 3. Diskette Drive Assembly=20 4. Hard Disk Drive Assembly=20 This is obviously not very helpful. If I can't boot, and I can't get into the BIOS setup, I can't do much, can I? -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------ Play-by-play boot-up sequence: -First it does the memory check. I see: 11904 KB OK 174 If I hold the F1 key to get into the BIOS setup, it goes straight to the next screen, not the BIOS setup. =20 -Then the screen clears, and I get a graphical screen saying=20 ERROR=20 00174 =20 [OK] [Cancel] -If I cancel, it access the boot floppy I put in, but before it boots, I get chastised with another screen indicating 174 =3D(OK with line through it) --> (RTFM symbol) Hitting F1 lets me boot of of floppy. FDISK indicates "No fixed disks present". That's because it wasn't a present, I bought it myself ;) -If I press OK off of the previous screen, it beeps twice then reboots back to square one. Someone mentioned a trace I have to cut; something having to do with the DRIVE SELECT pin, and that if I thought pure thoughts for a week and spoke good of you to Bill Clinton[1] the next time he and I met, that you would tell me which trace to cut so the bomb doesn't explode like in Lethal Weapon IX. [1] I start a new job next Tuesday, and my boss' name really is William Clinton, so I can actually do that. ------------------------------------------------------------------- DDDD David Kramer david@kramer.ne.mediaone.net DK KD http://start.at/david.kramer DKK D =20 DK KD Feudalism: When it's your Count that votes. DDDD From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 9 15:12:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA18826 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:12:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01886; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:04:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:02:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01681; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:02:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (root@avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.150.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01611; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:02:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.167.101]) by avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA13280 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:01:32 +0100 (MET) Received: (from utcke@localhost) by asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) id VAA03601 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:01:21 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199902092001.VAA03601@asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: 701C: Battery doesn't charge? In-Reply-To: <199902071157.MAA21226@asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> from Sven Utcke at "Feb 7, 99 12:57:27 pm" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:01:21 +0100 (MET) From: sven.utcke@gmx.de (Sven Utcke) Reply-to: sven.utcke@gmx.de (Sven Utcke) Phone: +49-(0)761-203-8274 Fax: +49-(0)761-203-8262 Address: Albert-Ludwigs-Universitaet Freiburg, Institut fuer Informatik Address: Lehrstuhl fuer Mustererkennung und Bildverarbeitung X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, to follow up on my own message... [701C, 2630-TF4] > The battery wont charge! Battery-meter is at 0%, and pressing Fn-F1 > tells me: "Batterie fehlerhaft" (battery defective). However, when I > bought the computer, the guy was actually running of the battery. > Admittedly only for a few minutes, but still. And I can measure the > following voltage over the four contacts: > > 0 0 0 0 > |9.3| | | > |__3.2__| | > |____11.0___| > > which looks alright (although I have to admit that I have no idea > what the voltage should be!). Heinz Bokel mailt me that on his batteries the values are: NiCad 10.0 3.4 11.5 MiMH 11.0 4.3 12.5 After recharging, mine are now: NiMH 10.89 4.68 12.55 so I guess battery is fine (also, my charger after several charge-discharge cycles now claims a capacity of 1.71Ah, which --- although somewhat short of the original 1.9Ah --- certainly indicates that the battery is fine enough). > My first thought would have been that > the internal charger is maybe defective, and the guy was showing me > the computer with a battery he charged in a separate charger. The strange thing is that by now I can not boot at all anymore, not even with a fully charged battery. All I get are three beeps (now, who is doing the beeping if the battery is broken? There are no beeps if the battery is removed). > So, what could I do? Any recommendations? I've run resetbat, but to no avail. But then, the problem is not that the computer won't charge the battery because it thinks it is full, but because it thinks it is broken... I got tpvol2.pdf, but they don't mention my problem at all. Any other ideas? Charging the battery externally would have been bad enough, but a laptop that will not work on a battery at all is a sad joke... Thanks Sven -- _ _ Lehrstuhl fuer Mustererkennung und Bildverarbeitung | |_ __ | |__ Sven Utcke | | ' \| '_ \ phone: +49 761 203 8274 Am Flughafen 17 |_|_|_|_|_.__/ fax : +49 761 203 8262 79110 Freiburg i. Brsg. mailto:utcke@informatik.uni-freiburg.de www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~utcke From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 9 15:22:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA18948 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:22:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02783; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:15:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:15:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02688; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:15:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (root@avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.150.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02641; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:14:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.167.101]) by avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA13523 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:14:34 +0100 (MET) Received: (from utcke@localhost) by asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) id VAA03654 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:14:24 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199902092014.VAA03654@asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Q: Linux on Thinkpad 701C (PCMCIA CD-ROM) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:14:24 +0100 (MET) From: sven.utcke@gmx.de (Sven Utcke) Reply-to: sven.utcke@gmx.de (Sven Utcke) Phone: +49-(0)761-203-8274 Fax: +49-(0)761-203-8262 Address: Albert-Ludwigs-Universitaet Freiburg, Institut fuer Informatik Address: Lehrstuhl fuer Mustererkennung und Bildverarbeitung X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I'm desperately trying to install Linux (SuSE 6.0) on my IBM Thinkpad 701C (a 486 DX4/75 with 16MB RAM and 520MB HDD --- the one with the broken battery / charger / whatever). But: The (only) CD-ROM drive is the original IBM PCMCIA based one, for which I only got drivers under Win95. So I tried copying all the files mentioned in the documentation onto the HDD (approx 90MB) and install from there. I even got some sort of Linux running, but: I can not get any of the PCMCIA-stuff running. I would _really_ appreciate some help with this, either a) how do I install properly? b) What do I need to do in order to get the PCMCIA CD-ROM working? Could some kind soul give me a step-by-step walk-thrue? Thanks a lot in advance Sven -- _ _ Lehrstuhl fuer Mustererkennung und Bildverarbeitung | |_ __ | |__ Sven Utcke | | ' \| '_ \ phone: +49 761 203 8274 Am Flughafen 17 |_|_|_|_|_.__/ fax : +49 761 203 8262 79110 Freiburg i. Brsg. mailto:utcke@informatik.uni-freiburg.de www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~utcke From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 9 15:27:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA19014 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:27:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03649; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:24:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:24:15 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03540; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:24:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id PAA23976 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:24:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02918; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:18:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial7.vramp.net (dial7.vramp.net [209.107.20.22]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA16556; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:16:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902092016.PAA16556@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: David Kramer , thinkpad mailing list Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:14:49 -0500 Subject: Re: Error 174 with new hard drive. Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <36C08434.D10EEA00@kramer.ne.mediaone.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 9 Feb 99, at 13:53, David Kramer wrote: > The pin 1 on the hard drive (there are no markings on the HD) appears to be > next to the jumpers while the markings on the ribbon cable indicate pin 1 is > on the other side. Is this possible? They are both polarized. The jumpers are the four pins that are separate from the drive connection pins (e.g. there's a space, about one pin width, between the four and the rest of the pins). The number one pin is immediately adjacent to the jumpers according to my SupportSource database. > IBM DTCA-23240 (The website calls it a Travelstar 4GT). 3250MB 630CYL > 16HD 63 SECT/TRK >From the same source, the 4GT is a 4.4Gig drive. Your drive appears to share family with the 4GT as well as the 5GS. Hope this helps Dave. James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. CaptJHEM@waterw.com Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 9 17:21:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA20787 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:21:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11862; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:17:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:16:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11729; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:16:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from io.frii.com (io.frii.com [208.146.240.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11712; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jws@localhost) by io.frii.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA12995 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:16:23 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: io.frii.com: jws owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:16:23 -0700 (MST) From: "John W. Schmidt" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Xircom net/modem and hibernation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I just replaced an aging Motorola Montana modem card with a very cool Xircom Realport 10/100 Ethernet and 56K modem on one card. Only one problem -- on my 380XD, the Fn-F12 key combination to go into hibernation doesn't work any more -- it just beeps. Removing the Xircom card lets hibernation work as before. It worked with no problems with the old Moto modem. Any ideas? For what it's worth, the Xircom is the PC Card (16 bit) version, not the CardBus (32-bit) version. John Schmidt jws@frii.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 9 17:41:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA21092 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:41:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13468; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:39:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:38:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13352; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (cave@cavecreations.com [192.41.27.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13329; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:38:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id PAA22330; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:38:13 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:38:13 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199902092238.PAA22330@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: jws@frii.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Xircom net/modem and hibernation List-Unsubscribe: John, Are you running Windows NT or Windows 98? On my Thinkpad 600E, running Windows NT, hibernating was a real problem with the Realport (same one, 16-bit). You had to stop the card using CardWizard first. You do need the absolute latest drivers to even get away with this under NT, and it's unstable at best (after 2-3 hibernate/resumes you'll blue screen). NT really wasn't too friendly with the RealPort in general. Other PC cards worked much better. On Win98, it didn't seem to work until I checked off the Allow Hibernation when docked option in power management. I don't use a docking station, but this cleared up the problems. -Al > I just replaced an aging Motorola Montana modem card with a very > cool Xircom Realport 10/100 Ethernet and 56K modem on one card. > Only one problem -- on my 380XD, the Fn-F12 key combination to go > into hibernation doesn't work any more -- it just beeps. Removing > the Xircom card lets hibernation work as before. It worked with no > problems with the old Moto modem. -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998,1999 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 9 17:42:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA21103 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:42:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13687; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:41:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:40:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13542; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:40:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13520; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgoldman.vip.best.com (adsl-216-101-170-226.dsl.pacbell.net [216.101.170.226]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id OAA06466 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:38:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990209143801.00b762c0@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 14:38:52 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Re: Xircom net/modem and hibernation In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 02:16 PM 2/9/99 , John W. Schmidt wrote: >I just replaced an aging Motorola Montana modem card with a very >cool Xircom Realport 10/100 Ethernet and 56K modem on one card. Only one >problem -- on my 380XD, the Fn-F12 key combination to go into hibernation >doesn't work any more -- it just beeps. Removing the Xircom card lets >hibernation work as before. It worked with no problems with the old >Moto modem. > >Any ideas? For what it's worth, the Xircom is the PC Card (16 bit) >version, not the CardBus (32-bit) version. It's the DRIVER! That driver doesn't support the card being put into hibernation. Call Xircom and complain. -- /=================================================================\ | David Goldman | My business motto is: | | IVR@DGoldman.Com | Choose any two: [ ] Fast | | | [ ] Cheap | | Ask me for my PGP key. | [ ] Right | \=================================================================/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 9 17:50:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA21211 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:50:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14601; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:49:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:49:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14444; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:49:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14423; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:48:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from me ([205.130.18.246]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 1719700 ; Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:35:52 -0500 Message-ID: <002c01be547a$699a0f40$020aa8c0@innernet.net> From: "Slip" To: "Sven Utcke" , Subject: Re: 701C: Battery doesn't charge? Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:20:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 List-Unsubscribe: >so I guess battery is fine (also, my charger after several >charge-discharge cycles now claims a capacity of 1.71Ah, which --- >although somewhat short of the original 1.9Ah --- certainly indicates >that the battery is fine enough). Here's some tips you may find usefull from that hardware maintenance guide. I think you missed some of the key points in the doccument. First, if those beeps are one long and two short beeps, then there is a problem with the bottom system board. This is beyond repair by the enduser. However, I think you may be hearing the 'power problem' beeps. When you switch the system on, does it imediatly give you a single beep followed with about 4 faster ones? You'll get this when you'r battery is run completly down and your trying to run off it. The reason I think this is the problem is because you said that you only get beeps with the battery installed-which would be correct. Let's start with the AC adapter first-it should be from 15.5-17Vdc. As for the battery, here's what voltages you should have: (looking at the terminal-end of the battery with the rounded side to the right) pin1(far left) - 11.0(nominal) (range from 10 - 16) pin2 - Vcc pin3 - I/O pin 4 - Ground Quoted from the doccument: "If the voltage is less than +10Vdc, the battery has been discharged or is defective. Recharge the battery. If the voltage is less than +10Vdc after charging, replace the battery". >The strange thing is that by now I can not boot at all anymore, not >even with a fully charged battery. Well you'v either got a defective battery or possibly a charger. (not very likely it's both). If you know anyone with a 701, have him check out your battery. If you'd be up to it, you could ship me your battery and I'd check it out for you.(on a working 701). Good luck and HTH -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 9 17:53:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA21238 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:53:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11271; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:09:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:07:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11061; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:07:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from aquila.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (smtp1.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.20.111]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11026; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:06:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from granville.its.unimelb.edu.au (granville.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.146.85]) by SMTP.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (PMDF V5.2-29 #31573) with ESMTP id <01J7KN9RZNG4935WHS@SMTP.UNIMELB.EDU.AU> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:06:49 +1100 Received: (from rns@localhost) by granville.its.unimelb.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA11594; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:06:49 +1100 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:06:49 +1100 From: Robert Sturrock Subject: Re: Q: Linux on Thinkpad 701C (PCMCIA CD-ROM) In-reply-to: <199902092014.VAA03654@asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de>; from Sven Utcke on Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 09:14:24PM +0100 To: Sven Utcke , thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Message-id: <19990210090649.A10420@its.unimelb.edu.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <199902092014.VAA03654@asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> List-Unsubscribe: Hi. I have a ThinkPad-701C myself on which I recently succesfully installed FreeBSD. I just booted from floppy, and did a `network' install (FTP) using a PCMCIA Ethernet card. I would have thought the same process would be possible with Linux but I haven't tried it. A couple of useful TP701 resources are: Linux PCMCIA information is at: Cheers, /r. On Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 09:14:24PM +0100, Sven Utcke wrote: > Hi, > > I'm desperately trying to install Linux (SuSE 6.0) on my IBM Thinkpad > 701C (a 486 DX4/75 with 16MB RAM and 520MB HDD --- the one with the > broken battery / charger / whatever). But: > > The (only) CD-ROM drive is the original IBM PCMCIA based one, for > which I only got drivers under Win95. So I tried copying all the > files mentioned in the documentation onto the HDD (approx 90MB) and > install from there. I even got some sort of Linux running, but: I can > not get any of the PCMCIA-stuff running. I would _really_ appreciate > some help with this, either > > a) how do I install properly? > b) What do I need to do in order to get the PCMCIA CD-ROM working? > Could some kind soul give me a step-by-step walk-thrue? > > Thanks a lot in advance > > Sven > -- > _ _ Lehrstuhl fuer Mustererkennung und Bildverarbeitung > | |_ __ | |__ Sven Utcke > | | ' \| '_ \ phone: +49 761 203 8274 Am Flughafen 17 > |_|_|_|_|_.__/ fax : +49 761 203 8262 79110 Freiburg i. Brsg. > mailto:utcke@informatik.uni-freiburg.de www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~utcke -- /r. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 9 18:38:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA21696 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:38:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18335; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:32:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:30:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17917; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail10.svr.pol.co.uk (mail10.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.214]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17857; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:30:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from modem-37.artist.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.115.165] helo=silvermoon.freeserve.co.uk) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10AMbr-0005km-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:30:28 +0000 Message-ID: <002901be5484$bed997a0$a573883e@silvermoon.freeserve.co.uk> From: "Ed Brown" To: "Thinkpad mailing list" Subject: How to get other 2.5" drives working on 75x TP's Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:34:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: For 75x TP's, just break off the four end pins on the HDD. There are no jumpers on these caddies! A message that has been posted on the list before : IBM changed the pinout on the newer disks for the master/slave jumper configuration. Normally the caddy also serve as jumper for master/slave config. This means, that you can't use the older caddies directly. BUT, and this is the tricky part: If you bend over pin 47 or 48 on the disk - that is either one of the last set of pins - then it works. It looks like this: [:::::::::::::::::::::: ::] <---- Bend over either one of the last two in the group of four in the end... Its crude, but it works. I now have - and use - a 2.1 gig travelstar in an old caddy in my TP760. After testing to make sure it worked, I broke pin no. 48 completely of to make sure the cable would fit perfectly, plugged the bastard in and blasted away formatting and installing etc. This worked for me and my 750cs. Many thanks to the originator of this information..... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 9 19:01:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA21878 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:01:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20551; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:59:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20417; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:59:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from io.frii.com (io.frii.com [208.146.240.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20400; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:59:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jws@localhost) by io.frii.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA15990; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:59:36 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: io.frii.com: jws owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:59:36 -0700 (MST) From: "John W. Schmidt" To: "Albert C. Lee" cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Xircom net/modem and hibernation In-Reply-To: <199902092238.PAA22330@cavecreations.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Oops - forgot to mention that the 380XD is running Win95b -- the stock version from the recovery CD. I'll check for driver updates from Xircom and bug them if it still doesn't work. For such a great idea (no dongles!) it's a shame that the software isn't up to snuff. John S. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 9 23:08:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA24223 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:08:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00805; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:06:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:02:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00579; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:02:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from kramer.ne.mediaone.net (IDENT:root@kramer.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.125.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00548; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:02:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from kramer.ne.mediaone.net (lightning.ne.mediaone.net [192.168.1.2]) by kramer.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA03566 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:01:41 -0500 Message-ID: <36C104B8.C577DE73@kramer.ne.mediaone.net> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 23:02:00 -0500 From: David Kramer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: How to get other 2.5" drives working on 75x TP's References: <002901be5484$bed997a0$a573883e@silvermoon.freeserve.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ed Brown wrote: > > For 75x TP's, just break off the four end pins on the HDD. There are no > jumpers on these caddies! > It looks like this: > > [:::::::::::::::::::::: ::] <---- Bend over either one of the last two in > the group of four in the end... I did this: [:::::::::::::::::::::: ;;] and it worked. ####### # # # ## # # # # # # # # # ## # # # # ###### # # # # # #### # # # ###### # # # # # # # # # # # ## # # # # # # # # # # # ### # # #### # # ### # # # # # # ### # # # # # ### # # # # # # # # # # ### # #### #### ### -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- DDDD David Kramer david@kramer.ne.mediaone.net DK KD http://start.at/david.kramer DKK D DK KD Feudalism: When it's your Count that votes. DDDD From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 01:48:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA25981 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:48:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07210; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:45:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:42:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07057; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:42:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from firefly.prairienet.org (firefly.prairienet.org [192.17.3.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07044; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:42:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pnet16 (slip-2.prairienet.org [192.17.3.134]) by firefly.prairienet.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA20913 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:42:41 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: 3Com CardBus ethernet problem Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:42:25 -0600 Message-ID: <000201be54c0$85173fe0$860311c0@pnet16.prairienet.org.prairienet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Hello all ... I have a consistent problem with a 3Com CardBus card -- specifically, the Megahertz 3CXFE575BT, 10/100 ethernet. I've had great difficulty getting this thing installed on my i1720 under Win98, and 3Com is out of ideas (they say it works fine on their 390). The thing usually flatly refuses to be recognized - when first inserted, both its green LEDs come on, and the machine locks completely. Removing it frees the machine. Booting with this card present usually locks the boot process, and the machine must be powered off. After repeated attempts to do this, it will eventually be noticed and the install process will begin. After the card driver is installed, a reboot usually again locks the machine. After repeated attempts to boot in safe mode -> remove driver -> reboot -> reinstall, it will eventually configure ... for awhile. The first time anything odd happens, such as an improper shutdown or a card removed at an inopportune time, the driver appears to be corrupted and the card will not function. Again, it locks the computer on boot, or when it's inserted. The only cure is to remove the driver and go through the repeated install -> boot -> lock -> remove -> boot safe -> remove -> boot -> install -> blah blah, for about half an hour, until it finally works again. Obviously, when this happens in the middle of a workday, this costs me a lot of time that I don't have, and is unacceptable. I'm prepared to insist on a refund for this card, but would like first to know if anyone has had experience with this card on a 1720/390, and has suggestions to offer. Please note that we've already tried removing the PCI drivers and all networking, and installing every related component from scratch. I had this problem even on a fresh Win98 install, with absolutely no software or hardware installed except this card and the Thinkpad's own internal components. A 3Com 3C574 (16 bit) card works fine, as does my USR XJ1560 modem ... though the 574 was a screaming bear to configure under NT. Any ideas? Thank you - David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 02:22:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA26420 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:22:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08323; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:22:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:21:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08242; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08228; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:21:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl8-58.gate.net [199.227.131.249]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA42276; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:21:22 -0500 Message-ID: <36C13375.C066DFBF@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:21:25 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Bell CC: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Urgent Help - Dead 770 References: <19990208162438.4464.qmail@ww184.netaddress.usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Rob.. have you tried to get into easy setup and run the tests there..? in any event, sounds like the machine is in for a trip to memphis.. have your friend call the help line at 800-772-2227 and schedule a pickup for the machine.. tell him to keep the HDD and not send it in with the machine.. Rob Bell wrote: > One of my colleagues has a 770 (9548-30U) that is dead. When turned on, you > can hear the fan but no disk noises. The screen remains completely black. > The HD indicator on the LCD does not flicker on. The floppy is installed in > the UltraBay but it is not accessed. The HD works fine in another identical > 770. No hardware or software changes were made prior to this problem. No > physical trauma has been inflicted on the machine. The battery is at 96% and > charges normally. The symptoms are the same whether on AC or battery. > Pressing the hardware reset switch (by power switch) does not change things. > > Any ideas? Seems like a dead system board to me. Any other troubleshooting > things that we've missed? > > Thanks, > Rob > > rbell1@netscape.net > > ____________________________________________________________________ > More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 02:31:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA26501 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:31:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08832; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:30:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08751; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:30:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08738; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl8-58.gate.net [199.227.131.249]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA40474; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:30:14 -0500 Message-ID: <36C13588.176FA541@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:30:16 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Kramer CC: thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: Error 174 with new hard drive. References: <36BFA790.47902FE0@kramer.ne.mediaone.net> <36BFC2B9.6372F749@icanect.net> <36C08434.D10EEA00@kramer.ne.mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id CAA08832 David.. the thing is: 1. i hate to do tech support for the competition.. :-) BUT 2. the drive select was changed from the time of your original HDD.. reve= rsed, in fact.. 3. depending on the HDD shell you're using, it is most likely telling the= machine that the drive is a slave, thus the machine does not see the drive and you get the 174 error.. SOLUTION.. 4. Surgery, on the cable/plug assy or the HDD itself (not a good idea) 5. New HDD shell.. :-) (this is where i get paid, heheheh) that 3.2gig drive is a good one.. and it'll work (if it works at all).. i've had them in so many machines..!! David Kramer wrote: > Bill Morrow wrote: > > > > David.. > > your problem is common, and, if the HDD is OK, then simple to remedy.. > > BUT > > i need more info.. > > 1. HOW are you connecting the HDD to the 755 ? > > I have a caddy to put it inside the laptop. My 340MB works in the new > caddy fine, so I know the caddy is OK. To be honest< I got so sick of > ripping open the caddy and closing it again as I try different things, > today I put some thin phone wire through the screw holes in the ribbon > cable connector so I can pull it out again, and put the drive in withou= t > the caddy. Not a good long-term solution, I know. > > > 2. what brand is it..? > > IBM DTCA-23240 (The website calls it a Travelstar 4GT). 3250MB 630CYL > 16HD 63 SECT/TRK > > Now hunting around the storage.ibm.com website, it looks all the world > to me from http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/dtca/dtca.pdf > that the pins are in the wrong order! The pin 1 on the hard drive > (there are no markings on the HD) appears to be next to the jumpers > while the markings on the ribbon cable indicate pin 1 is on the other > side. Is this possible? They are both polarized. > > Someone suggested I might have jumpers on the HD. The only connector i= s > the one in back, so if there were any jumpers on I wouldn't be able to > fit the ribbon connector on. > > Someone asked if the drive spins up. It does. > > "p machule" offered to look up 00174 for me. The > web page says: > 174 (Perform 'Checking the Installed Devices List=B4 before changing an= y > FRUs.) > 1. Check Device Configuration. > 2. System Board > 3. Diskette Drive Assembly > 4. Hard Disk Drive Assembly > > This is obviously not very helpful. If I can't boot, and I can't get > into the BIOS setup, I can't do much, can I? > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------- > Play-by-play boot-up sequence: > -First it does the memory check. I see: > 11904 KB OK > 174 > > If I hold the F1 key to get into the BIOS setup, it goes straight to th= e > next screen, not the BIOS setup. > > -Then the screen clears, and I get a graphical screen saying > ERROR > 00174 > [OK] [Cancel] > > -If I cancel, it access the boot floppy I put in, but before it boots, = I > get chastised with another screen indicating > 174 =3D(OK with line through it) --> (RTFM symbol) > Hitting F1 lets me boot of of floppy. FDISK indicates "No fixed disks > present". That's because it wasn't a present, I bought it myself ;) > > -If I press OK off of the previous screen, it beeps twice then reboots > back to square one. > > Someone mentioned a trace I have to cut; something having to do with th= e > DRIVE SELECT pin, and that if I thought pure thoughts for a week and > spoke good of you to Bill Clinton[1] the next time he and I met, that > you would tell me which trace to cut so the bomb doesn't explode like i= n > Lethal Weapon IX. > > [1] I start a new job next Tuesday, and my boss' name really is William > Clinton, so I can actually do that. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > DDDD David Kramer david@kramer.ne.mediaone.net > DK KD http://start.at/david.kramer > DKK D > DK KD Feudalism: When it's your Count that votes. > DDDD -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will v= ary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 02:33:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA26520 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:33:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09149; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:33:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:32:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09015; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:32:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08908; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:32:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl8-58.gate.net [199.227.131.249]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA52160; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:32:25 -0500 Message-ID: <36C1360B.D199BBF@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:32:27 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Brown CC: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: How to get other 2.5" drives working on 75x TP's References: <002901be5484$bed997a0$a573883e@silvermoon.freeserve.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: IBM did not change the drive select, EVERYONE did.. (IBM, Toshiba, Seagate, Fujitsu, et al) Ed Brown wrote: > For 75x TP's, just break off the four end pins on the HDD. There are no > jumpers on these caddies! > A message that has been posted on the list before : > > IBM changed the pinout on the newer disks for the master/slave jumper > configuration. Normally the caddy also serve as jumper for master/slave > config. This means, that you can't use the older caddies directly. > > BUT, and this is the tricky part: If you bend over pin 47 or 48 on the > disk - > that is either one of the last set of pins - then it works. > > It looks like this: > > [:::::::::::::::::::::: ::] <---- Bend over either one of the last two in > the > group of four in the end... > > Its crude, but it works. I now have - and use - a 2.1 gig travelstar in an > old caddy in my TP760. After testing to make sure it worked, I broke pin no. > 48 > completely of to make sure the cable would fit perfectly, plugged the > bastard in and blasted away formatting and installing etc. > > This worked for me and my 750cs. > Many thanks to the originator of this information..... -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 02:38:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA26565 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:38:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09554; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:38:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:38:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09472; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:38:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from firefly.prairienet.org (firefly.prairienet.org [192.17.3.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09459; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:38:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pnet16 (slip-2.prairienet.org [192.17.3.134]) by firefly.prairienet.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA23229 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:38:02 -0600 (CST) From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: 3Com CardBus ethernet problem: addendum Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:37:46 -0600 Message-ID: <000401be54c8$40b2bac0$860311c0@pnet16.prairienet.org.prairienet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: My apologies for a couple of details which I left out, and which an astute reader will no doubt finger if I don't mention them: First, I'm aware that these problems can sometimes be slot-specific. What little success I've had with this card has been in the bottom slot; my attempts to configure it in slot 0 have been even more harrowing. Second, there are three versions (at least) of the drivers for this card, and I've tried them all. The shipping driver was useless. A second, downloaded a couple of weeks ago, specifically mentioned support for the TI 1250 Cardbus controller which this Thinkpad i1720 uses. I also have a third, which recently appeared on their website. I've been able to use each of the latter two for about a week between crashes, until recently, when the crashes became more frequent and the installs more difficult (which I assume to be of no significance). My primary concern stems from the fact that this card tends to lock when it's first inserted, before any driver at all is installed. That seems to indicate some physical hardware compatibility problem, yes? Thanks for any input. -David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 07:51:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA28532 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:51:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29893; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:48:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:47:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29794; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de [160.45.2.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29780; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from komma.fddi2.fu-berlin.de (160.45.2.6) with smtp id ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:47:04 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:47:02 +0100 (MET) From: Christoph Eyrich X-Sender: eyrich@komma.fddi2.fu-berlin.de To: David Goldman cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Xircom net/modem and hibernation In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990209143801.00b762c0@shell9.ba.best.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, David Goldman wrote: > At 02:16 PM 2/9/99 , John W. Schmidt wrote: > >problem -- on my 380XD, the Fn-F12 key combination to go into hibernation > >doesn't work any more -- it just beeps. Removing the Xircom card lets > >hibernation work as before. It worked with no problems with the old > > It's the DRIVER! That driver doesn't support the card being put into > hibernation. Call Xircom and complain. As far as I know, that's a general problem with nics, and that's the reason why it works as soon as you disable the (network part of the) card before hibernating the machine. Christoph Eyrich -- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 08:17:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA28718 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:17:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01217; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:16:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:16:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01086; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01072; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:16:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from amlaptop ([203.96.106.12]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990210131542.INJJ682101.mta1-rme@amlaptop> for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:15:42 +1300 Message-ID: <001a01be54f7$363bda20$0c6a60cb@amlaptop> From: "Andreas Michaelides" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: 3Com CardBus ethernet problem: addendum Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:13:37 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >My primary concern stems from the fact that this card tends to lock when >it's first inserted, before any driver at all is installed. That seems to >indicate some physical hardware compatibility problem, yes? Does sound like an interrupt problem to me. I had similar problems with a Xircom network card once when I didn't have enough interrupts free on my system (actually, it was a funny card and needed a specific IRQ to work, that I wouldn't give it). I'd try disabling anything nonessential that uses an interrupt and see if that helps. I've got a 770 so things are probably a little different, but disable infrared, the serial port, the modem and perhaps even the LPT port, and any MPEG stuff (doubt you have this). This will free up interrupts and hopefully let the card have the one it wants. If this works take note of which IRQ it likes and try enabling the other stuff without using that particular IRQ. My 770 allows IRQ sharing between the modem and the sound card which is real nice cos it frees a valuable IRQ, you might check this out if applicable. If any of this is right, the reason your card would work sometimes is the Windows will try to move the IRQ's of other hardware around for you to give the network card an IRQ it likes. This can cause lockups, and thus if you crash or do something wrong windows forgets the revised settings and you are back to square 1. Let me know how it goes. Later, Andreas!! :-) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 10:03:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA29850 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:03:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06665; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:01:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06526; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:01:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [192.232.119.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06511; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:00:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from cyber.kodak.com (toolbox.cyber.kodak.com [150.221.56.29]) by kodakr.kodak.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA22386 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:00:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from kodak.com by cyber.kodak.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA20922; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:00:18 -0500 for Message-ID: <36C19F8A.7270F421@kodak.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:02:34 -0500 From: "Stephen M. Deal" Organization: Eastman Kodak Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad LISTSERV Subject: Display adapter in SelectaDock III with TP600 running NT? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have not been able to get a Display adapter to work in my SelectaDockIII with my TP600. Details: -TP600 running NT4 SP4 -IBM Etherjet PCMCIA card in the TP600 (not the dock) -SelectaDock III -ATI Technologies Xpert@Play PCI card in the SelectaDock III IBM support stated that the ATI card is not an IBM product nor on the recommended list. IBM support stated that there are no IBM Display Adapter cards for this use. IBM support stated that there are no recommended Display Adapter cards for this use. IBM support stated that there is no documentation for using a display adapter in the SelectaDock III I did find documentation on the IBM web site that states: -You cannot use both a PCI network adapter and PCI display adapter together in the SelectaDockIII Has anyone gotten a display adapter working in a SelectaDockIII with a ThinkPad running WindowsNT? Regards, Steve Deal 0- | Email: deal@kodak.com Eastman Kodak Company | Phone: 716.724.3196 Internet Marketing m/s 00546 | FAX: 716.724.7434 Rochester, N.Y. 14650-0546 | http://www.kodak.com/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 10:22:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA00286 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07898; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:20:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:20:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07788; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:20:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigun.c-gate.net (IDENT:root@bigun.c-gate.net [207.120.210.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07767; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:19:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from egiles (pm1wayne1-13.c-gate.net [198.79.69.146]) by bigun.c-gate.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA24222 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:20:44 -0600 Message-ID: <006801be5508$84703cc0$010180c0@egiles> From: "Eric Giles" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: Re: Display adapter in SelectaDock III with TP600 running NT? Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:17:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: >I did find documentation on the IBM web site that states: >-You cannot use both a PCI network adapter and PCI display adapter >together in the SelectaDockIII I'm not sure about the Selectadock III, but I had a Matrox Millenium video card and a 3Com 10/100 PCI card installed at the same time in my Selectadock II (with a U.S. Robotics ISA modem also, when I had a 760ED and was running Win95). Things may have changed with the new model, but that would be more of a downgrade if it really doesn't support both PCI cards. Sorry I couldn't be of more help! Eric Giles From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 10:46:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA00605 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:46:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09794; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:44:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:43:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09618; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:43:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09597; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:43:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from pnet16 (ppp10.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.10]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id JAA07403 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:43:20 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: 3Com CardBus ethernet problem: addendum Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:42:56 -0600 Message-ID: <000401be550c$074232e0$2f2cfea9@pnet16.prairienet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <001a01be54f7$363bda20$0c6a60cb@amlaptop> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I considered this, but I thought PCI-based devices don't use interrupts -- or that they use the interrupt assigned to the bus, which in my case is 11 all around (for 4 PCI devices)? This card seems to be internally assigned to IRQ 9, according to its DOS config program (and that's what it requests when I try to install it under NT [insert hearty laugh here] ). I assumed it would be automatically reassigned to 11 by Windows. When I try to assign the hardware to 9, using the DOS configuration utility, it won't allow it -- correctly pointing out that a device is already using it (the PCI bus!). I know interrupts are in short supply here, but I thought that problem was partially alleviated by the use of CardBus devices in the first place. Is my understanding of this askew? Thanks for the feedback -- David > -----Original Message----- > From: Andreas Michaelides [mailto:andreas@xtra.co.nz] > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 7:14 AM > To: Thinkpad > Subject: Re: 3Com CardBus ethernet problem: addendum > > > >My primary concern stems from the fact that this card tends to lock when > >it's first inserted, before any driver at all is installed. > That seems to > >indicate some physical hardware compatibility problem, yes? > > > Does sound like an interrupt problem to me. I had similar problems with a > Xircom network card once when I didn't have enough interrupts free on my > system (actually, it was a funny card and needed a specific IRQ to work, > that I wouldn't give it). > > I'd try disabling anything nonessential that uses an interrupt and see if > that helps. I've got a 770 so things are probably a little different, but > disable infrared, the serial port, the modem and perhaps even the > LPT port, > and any MPEG stuff (doubt you have this). This will free up interrupts and > hopefully let the card have the one it wants. If this works take note of > which IRQ it likes and try enabling the other stuff without using that > particular IRQ. > > My 770 allows IRQ sharing between the modem and the sound card > which is real > nice cos it frees a valuable IRQ, you might check this out if applicable. > > If any of this is right, the reason your card would work sometimes is the > Windows will try to move the IRQ's of other hardware around for > you to give > the network card an IRQ it likes. This can cause lockups, and thus if you > crash or do something wrong windows forgets the revised settings > and you are > back to square 1. > > Let me know how it goes. > > Later, > Andreas!! > :-) > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 10:55:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA00764 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11388; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:54:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:53:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11218; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:53:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgw00.execpc.com (sendmail@mailgw00.execpc.com [169.207.1.78]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11204; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:53:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from earth (hseaman@earth.execpc.com [169.207.16.1]) by mailgw00.execpc.com (8.9.1) id JAA27092; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:50:45 -0600 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:49:58 -0600 (CST) From: Harry Seaman X-Sender: hseaman@earth To: Bill Morrow cc: Ed Brown , Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: How to get other 2.5" drives working on 75x TP's In-Reply-To: <36C1360B.D199BBF@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I went through this problem on my 750c. If you don't want to PERMANTLY modify the new hardrive by breaking or bending (which will lead to breaking), there is another way. Remove the pcb fromn the hardrive, look at the other side. You will wee where the pins in question are soldered to the pcb. just unsolder one of them, lift it off the board surface a bit, then put it back together. Now, if you ever need to, it will be easy to restore the hardrive to its original condition, should you ever want to put it in another notebook. To remove the pcb, it appeared that a tiny torx tool would be required, but I managed to turn the screws using the right size flat, jewelers screwdriver. good luck, let's keep those 750's running. harry seaman On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Bill Morrow wrote: > IBM did not change the drive select, EVERYONE did.. > (IBM, Toshiba, Seagate, Fujitsu, et al) > > Ed Brown wrote: > > > For 75x TP's, just break off the four end pins on the HDD. There are no > > jumpers on these caddies! > > A message that has been posted on the list before : > > > > IBM changed the pinout on the newer disks for the master/slave jumper > > configuration. Normally the caddy also serve as jumper for master/slave > > config. This means, that you can't use the older caddies directly. > > > > BUT, and this is the tricky part: If you bend over pin 47 or 48 on the > > disk - > > that is either one of the last set of pins - then it works. > > > > It looks like this: > > > > [:::::::::::::::::::::: ::] <---- Bend over either one of the last two in > > the > > group of four in the end... > > > > Its crude, but it works. I now have - and use - a 2.1 gig travelstar in an > > old caddy in my TP760. After testing to make sure it worked, I broke pin no. > > 48 > > completely of to make sure the cable would fit perfectly, plugged the > > bastard in and blasted away formatting and installing etc. > > > > This worked for me and my 750cs. > > Many thanks to the originator of this information..... > > > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net > 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, > Done on a > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 11:08:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA00910 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:08:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12520; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:06:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:05:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12340; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:04:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12326; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:04:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from pnet16 (ppp10.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.10]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id KAA10121 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:04:49 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: 3Com CardBus ethernet problem: addendum Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:04:26 -0600 Message-ID: <000801be550f$081de580$2f2cfea9@pnet16.prairienet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <001a01be54f7$363bda20$0c6a60cb@amlaptop> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: In addition ... if your theory is correct ... Windows stores IRQs in the registry, yes? So restoring a registry from the last time the card worked may solve the problem? Or will Windows ignore the previous settings and pick up the new settings from BIOS anyway? > -----Original Message----- > From: Andreas Michaelides [mailto:andreas@xtra.co.nz] > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 7:14 AM > To: Thinkpad > Subject: Re: 3Com CardBus ethernet problem: addendum > > > >My primary concern stems from the fact that this card tends to lock when > >it's first inserted, before any driver at all is installed. > That seems to > >indicate some physical hardware compatibility problem, yes? > > > Does sound like an interrupt problem to me. I had similar problems with a > Xircom network card once when I didn't have enough interrupts free on my > system (actually, it was a funny card and needed a specific IRQ to work, > that I wouldn't give it). > > I'd try disabling anything nonessential that uses an interrupt and see if > that helps. I've got a 770 so things are probably a little different, but > disable infrared, the serial port, the modem and perhaps even the > LPT port, > and any MPEG stuff (doubt you have this). This will free up interrupts and > hopefully let the card have the one it wants. If this works take note of > which IRQ it likes and try enabling the other stuff without using that > particular IRQ. > > My 770 allows IRQ sharing between the modem and the sound card > which is real > nice cos it frees a valuable IRQ, you might check this out if applicable. > > If any of this is right, the reason your card would work sometimes is the > Windows will try to move the IRQ's of other hardware around for > you to give > the network card an IRQ it likes. This can cause lockups, and thus if you > crash or do something wrong windows forgets the revised settings > and you are > back to square 1. > > Let me know how it goes. > > Later, > Andreas!! > :-) > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 12:38:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA02376 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:38:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02137; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:36:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:34:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01920; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:34:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (root@avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.150.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01892; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:34:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.167.101]) by avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA21289; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:34:08 +0100 (MET) Received: (from utcke@localhost) by asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) id SAA08439; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:33:57 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199902101733.SAA08439@asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: 701C: Battery doesn't charge? In-Reply-To: <002c01be547a$699a0f40$020aa8c0@innernet.net> from Slip at "Feb 9, 99 05:20:29 pm" To: jlk@innernet.net (Slip) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:33:57 +0100 (MET) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: sven.utcke@gmx.de (Sven Utcke) Reply-to: sven.utcke@gmx.de (Sven Utcke) Phone: +49-(0)761-203-8274 Fax: +49-(0)761-203-8262 Address: Albert-Ludwigs-Universitaet Freiburg, Institut fuer Informatik Address: Lehrstuhl fuer Mustererkennung und Bildverarbeitung X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi Jamie, > >so I guess battery is fine (also, my charger after several > >charge-discharge cycles now claims a capacity of 1.71Ah, which --- > >although somewhat short of the original 1.9Ah --- certainly indicates > >that the battery is fine enough). > > Here's some tips you may find usefull from that hardware maintenance guide. > I think you missed some of the key points in the doccument. Easily possible. > First, if those beeps are one long and two short beeps, then there is a > problem with the bottom system board. This is beyond repair by the enduser. > However, I think you may be hearing the 'power problem' beeps. When you > switch the system on, does it imediatly give you a single beep followed with > about 4 faster ones? Nope. Three equally long (or rather short) beeps. Well, it's actually more like knack beep beep beep :-) > You'll get this when you'r battery is run completly > down and your trying to run off it. The reason I think this is the problem > is because you said that you only get beeps with the battery > installed Correct. > Let's start with the AC adapter first-it should be from 15.5-17Vdc. 16.8V > As for the battery, here's what voltages you should have: > (looking at the terminal-end of the battery with the rounded side to the > right) > pin1(far left) - 11.0(nominal) (range from 10 - 16) 12.55 after charging. > >The strange thing is that by now I can not boot at all anymore, not > >even with a fully charged battery. > > Well you'v either got a defective battery or possibly a charger. I charged the battery with an external charger. The battery is both good (1.7Ah, which should be good enough) as well as charged. > (not very likely it's both). If you know anyone with a 701, have him > check out your battery. Unfortunately I don't. > If you'd be up to it, you could ship me your battery and I'd check > it out for you.(on a working 701). Well, I'm sitting in Germany, so this might not be a good idea. But thanks for the offer! Sven -- _ _ Lehrstuhl fuer Mustererkennung und Bildverarbeitung | |_ __ | |__ Sven Utcke | | ' \| '_ \ phone: +49 761 203 8274 Am Flughafen 17 |_|_|_|_|_.__/ fax : +49 761 203 8262 79110 Freiburg i. Brsg. mailto:utcke@informatik.uni-freiburg.de www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~utcke From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 13:03:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02800 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:03:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04224; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:02:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:01:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04119; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:01:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04081; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:01:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id MAA26665 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:02:02 -0600 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:02:02 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: FS: ThinkPad 365XD parts collection In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I want to sell this thing. It WAS a 365XD, and it mostly works, but if you want to use a CD-ROM drive or a hard disk in it, you'll need to replace the main board (I was quoted $540 with a swap). So here's what it has: -365XD case (P120 if it matters) -keyboard works -11.3" DSTN display works perfectly -External floppy works great -8MB RAM works great -4x CD-ROM *should* work (but not in this machine) -Battery works great (over 2 hours per charge) -Power supply -810 MB hard drive might be partly usable (not likely) This would be perfect for a 365XD with a broken screen. I'm asking $250 plus shipping. If that's too steep, make a counter offer. I also have a new (but opened) 6x CD-ROM drive for this machine or the 365X, and a new (sealed) Xtend battery for any 365 series to sell. Chris Schumann From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 13:57:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA03808 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:57:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08589; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:49:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:47:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08390; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:47:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate1.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08371; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:47:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from paddy (mg-20425426-160.ricochet.net [204.254.26.160]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA10246; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:46:40 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "John W. Schmidt" , "Albert C. Lee" Cc: Subject: RE: Xircom net/modem and hibernation Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:46:37 -0800 Message-ID: <006901be5525$b0b2c790$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > I'll check for driver updates from Xircom and bug them if it still doesn't > work. For such a great idea (no dongles!) it's a shame that the software > isn't up to snuff. It's funny how one man's bug can be another's feature. I have a Xircom CBE 10/100 card in this TP600 running NT4, and it works the way you've been talking about: if the card is in the machine, it will not suspend. This works out great for me: if I have the machine plugged in at my home office and I'm not using it, I close the lid and it stays running, so I can access it from other machines across the network. If I'm out on the road, I don't have the card plugged in, and the machine suspends when I close the lid. Now if I had a RealPort card that I expected to just leave in the machine all the time, I'd probably be with you calling this a bug. (But then I'd want some other way to easily select whether to suspend or not when I close the lid--there is the ThinkPad Configuration option for this, but that's a little clunky.) For the single-function network card, though, I really like the way it works with this "bug." -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 14:19:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04145 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:19:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10224; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:10:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:07:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09973; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:07:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate1.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09941; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from paddy (mg131-039.ricochet.net [204.179.131.39]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA13378; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:06:54 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Geary" To: , "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: 3Com CardBus ethernet problem: addendum Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:06:52 -0800 Message-ID: <006a01be5528$84959180$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000401be550c$074232e0$2f2cfea9@pnet16.prairienet.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: > I considered this, but I thought PCI-based devices don't use interrupts -- > or that they use the interrupt assigned to the bus, which in my case is 11 > all around (for 4 PCI devices)? This card seems to be internally assigned > to IRQ 9, according to its DOS config program (and that's what it requests > when I try to install it under NT [insert hearty laugh here] ). I assumed > it would be automatically reassigned to 11 by Windows. When I > try to assign > the hardware to 9, using the DOS configuration utility, it won't > allow it -- > correctly pointing out that a device is already using it (the PCI bus!). DOS configuration utility? Whew! Shouldn't have to mess with any of that. I have a 3CCFE575BT running 100% reliably on a TP600 under Win98. This is on a fairly vanilla, fresh Win98 installation with native Win98 PC card support,. The 600 uses the 1250A CardBus controller. The driver version of EL575ND4.SYS (from Device Manager's Driver File Details button) is 2.15.4002.0007. This is a driver I got from 3Com's Web site a while back. The 575 is in the top slot, and an Adaptec 1480A is in the bottom slot. If memory serves, I used Win98's native driver for the 1480A. I didn't do any special configuration for the 3Com card. It's on automatic settings with IRQ 11, various 060XXXXX memory addresses, and I/O 1080. I have had lots of trouble with these 3Com cards under NT, but they seem to always fire right up on Win9x. This may not all be a lot of help, except to know that to whatever degree the 390 and 600 have similar architectures, the card should just work--at least with the driver version I'm using. FWIW, here are the relevant portions of the Device Manager system summary report from my system: ************ SYSTEM SUMMARY ************ Windows version: 4.10.1998 Computer Name: Unknown System BUS Type: ISA BIOS Name: IBM BIOS Date: 09/25/98 BIOS Version: Unknown Machine Type: IBM PC/AT Processor Vendor: GenuineIntel Processor Type: Pentium(r) II Processor Math Co-processor: Present Registered Owner: Michael Geary Registered Company: Geary Labs ************ IRQ SUMMARY ************ IRQ Usage Summary: 00 - System timer 01 - Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard 02 - Programmable interrupt controller 03 - ThinkPad Data Fax Modem 03 - ThinkPad Digital Signal Processor 04 - Communications Port (COM1) 05 - Crystal PnP Audio System CODEC 06 - Standard Floppy Disk Controller 07 - Printer Port (LPT1) 08 - System CMOS/real time clock 10 - ThinkPad Digital Signal Processor 11 - Texas Instruments PCI-1250 CardBus Controller 11 - 3Com Megahertz 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card (Ethernet Interface) 11 - Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller 11 - Adaptec APA-1480 CardBus UltraSCSI Adapter 11 - NeoMagic MagicGraph 128XD 11 - Texas Instruments PCI-1250 CardBus Controller 11 - IRQ Holder for PCI Steering 11 - IRQ Holder for PCI Steering 11 - IRQ Holder for PCI Steering 12 - PS/2 TrackPoint 13 - Numeric data processor 14 - Standard Bus Mastering IDE Hard Disk Controller 15 - Standard Bus Mastering IDE Hard Disk Controller ************ IO PORT SUMMARY ************ I/O Port Usage Summary: 0000h-000Fh - Direct memory access controller 0020h-0021h - Programmable interrupt controller 0022h-0022h - Motherboard resources 002Eh-002Fh - Motherboard resources 0040h-0043h - System timer 0060h-0060h - Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard 0061h-0061h - System speaker 0064h-0064h - Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard 0070h-0073h - System CMOS/real time clock. 0080h-008Fh - Direct memory access controller 0092h-0092h - Motherboard resources 00A0h-00A1h - Programmable interrupt controller 00B2h-00B3h - Motherboard resources 00C0h-00DFh - Direct memory access controller 00F0h-00FFh - Numeric data processor 0130h-013Fh - ThinkPad WaveTable MidiSynth Device 0130h-013Fh - ThinkPad PhoneLine Device 0130h-013Fh - ThinkPad Digital Signal Processor 0170h-0177h - Standard Bus Mastering IDE Hard Disk Controller 01F0h-01F7h - Standard Bus Mastering IDE Hard Disk Controller 0200h-0207h - Crystal PnP Audio System Joystick 0220h-0233h - Crystal PnP Audio System CODEC 02F8h-02FFh - ThinkPad Data Fax Modem 02F8h-02FFh - ThinkPad Digital Signal Processor 0376h-0376h - Standard Bus Mastering IDE Hard Disk Controller 0388h-038Bh - Crystal PnP Audio System CODEC 03B0h-03BBh - NeoMagic MagicGraph 128XD 03BCh-03BFh - Printer Port (LPT1) 03C0h-03DFh - NeoMagic MagicGraph 128XD 03F0h-03F5h - Standard Floppy Disk Controller 03F6h-03F7h - Standard Bus Mastering IDE Hard Disk Controller 03F8h-03FFh - Communications Port (COM1) 04D0h-04D1h - Motherboard resources 0530h-0537h - Crystal PnP Audio System CODEC 0538h-053Fh - Crystal PnP Audio System Control Registers 0CF8h-0CFFh - PCI bus 1080h-10FFh - 3Com Megahertz 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card (Ethernet Interface) 1080h-10FFh - Texas Instruments PCI-1250 CardBus Controller 1400h-14FFh - Adaptec APA-1480 CardBus UltraSCSI Adapter 1400h-14FFh - Texas Instruments PCI-1250 CardBus Controller 15E0h-15EFh - Motherboard resources 8400h-841Fh - Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller EF00h-EFAFh - Motherboard resources FCF0h-FCF7h - Standard Bus Mastering IDE Hard Disk Controller FCF8h-FCFFh - Standard Bus Mastering IDE Hard Disk Controller ************ UPPER MEMORY USAGE SUMMARY ************ Memory Usage Summary: 00000000h-0009FFFFh - Motherboard resources 000A0000h-000AFFFFh - NeoMagic MagicGraph 128XD 000B0000h-000BFFFFh - NeoMagic MagicGraph 128XD 000C0000h-000C9FFFh - NeoMagic MagicGraph 128XD 000CA000h-000CBFFFh - Motherboard resources 000F0000h-000FFFFFh - Motherboard resources 00100000h-05FFFFFFh - Motherboard resources 06000000h-06020FFFh - Texas Instruments PCI-1250 CardBus Controller 06000000h-0601FFFFh - 3Com Megahertz 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card (Ethernet Inte 06020000h-0602007Fh - 3Com Megahertz 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card (Ethernet Inte 06020080h-060200FFh - 3Com Megahertz 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card (Ethernet Inte 06021000h-06021FFFh - Texas Instruments PCI-1250 CardBus Controller 06022000h-06022FFFh - Texas Instruments PCI-1250 CardBus Controller 06030000h-0603FFFFh - Adaptec APA-1480 CardBus UltraSCSI Adapter 06030000h-06040FFFh - Texas Instruments PCI-1250 CardBus Controller.Resource Summary Report - Page: 3 06040000h-06040FFFh - Adaptec APA-1480 CardBus UltraSCSI Adapter 20000000h-201FFFFFh - NeoMagic MagicGraph 128XD 20200000h-202FFFFFh - NeoMagic MagicGraph 128XD 80000000h-8FFFFFFFh - Intel 82443BX Pentium(r) II Processor to PCI bridge (wit D0000000h-D0FFFFFFh - NeoMagic MagicGraph 128XD FFFF0000h-FFFFFFFFh - Motherboard resources ************ DMA USAGE SUMMARY ************ DMA Channel Usage Summary: 00 - Crystal PnP Audio System CODEC 01 - Crystal PnP Audio System CODEC 02 - Standard Floppy Disk Controller 04 - Direct memory access controller 07 - ThinkPad Digital Signal Processor Maybe something in there will help... -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 15:07:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA04727 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:07:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15011; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:00:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:59:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14828; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:59:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14802; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:58:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwdesk (ppp-224-099.usc.edu [128.125.224.99]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id LAA21986; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:58:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.20020210114817.00aa67d0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 11:57:59 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: EZServe Pointing the Finger At ME?! Cc: bill@thinkpads.com, "Kim, John" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Lucky Me... I haven't had to send in a Thinkpad to EZServe for any kind of repair since my 750C way back when. But back then, EZServe was hands-down incredible in the service they provided. That's a major reason I kept coming back to buy Thinkpads (I've owned 4 of them in the past 5 or 6 years). So imagine my surprise when I call up EZServe to see what the status is on my TP 600 I just sent in (expecting it back today) when the person answering the phone is telling me, "They're writing up an estimate for it." "An ESTIMATE? ITS UNDER WARRANTY!" Their reply? "Damage is customer-induced". BULL!!! That 'pad has been IMMACULATELY cared-for, NEVER remotely abused, and treated, held, and carried sweeter than I carry my baby daughter. So all--Bill, John, et. al--anyone who's dealt with this recently: What do I do? I've already asked that the situation be escalated--that I speak with the next-level supervision--but where do I go from there? I am ADAMANT that the problem(s) be fixed under the warranty that I damn well paid for when I purchased an expensive machine and to *NOT* have this kind of crap sloughed off on me as though I were the culprit! - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 15:27:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA04950 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:27:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17167; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:24:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:22:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16935; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:22:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16913; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:22:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwdesk (ppp-224-099.usc.edu [128.125.224.99]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id MAA00991; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:22:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.20020210121545.00adbce0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 12:21:25 -0800 To: morrow@treco.net From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: EZServe Pointing the Finger At ME?! Cc: TP List In-Reply-To: <36C1E67A.F7345C04@treco.net> References: <4.1.20020210114817.00aa67d0@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 03:05 PM 2/10/99 -0500, you wrote: >Randy.. >what was the problem..? >paint..?? >or more.. The two things they're holding me "accountable" for are some paint peeling on the corner of the palmrest and near the left speaker, but more importantly--I requested that they fix the TFT screen. It gets "tweaked" and has this offset pink-colored cast to it--so everything that's supposed to be white, is instead pink (but offset to the right a bit). In addition, the backlight turns off inexplicably (No, its not the power-saving features activating--it happens when I'm in the middle of typing and also it does *not* shut the screen off--just the backlight turns off). Any suggestions? I'm still waiting to hear from 2nd-level supervision. >note: ez serve is now an independant company under contract to ibm.. thus, i >think they make more$$ when its YOUR fault rather than warranty service.. >this is my OPINION only.. my cynical opinion.. I think someone on the list disputed that...but it is clear from this experience and what I had read from others that they don't take their warranty work as seriously anymore. nd that, quite seriously, makes me question whether I should bother paying the premium for Thinkpads anymore. We pay good money for these high-end machines, in part because of a (presumably) long and excellent warranty. Take that part out of the equation and what's left? I've been a loyal Thinkpadder since 1992 or '93 or thereabouts, and have owned 4 of them during that time. But right about now, after the line of crap EZServe just fed me, I'm ready to look at a Toshiba next time... - Randy From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 16:35:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05710 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:35:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22650; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:33:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:31:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22453; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:31:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (IDENT:kim@fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22434; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:31:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA00754 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:31:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:31:23 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: TP List Subject: Re: EZServe Pointing the Finger At ME?! In-Reply-To: <4.1.20020210121545.00adbce0@rcf.usc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Randal Whittle wrote: > > The two things they're holding me "accountable" for are some paint peeling Others have gotten peeling paint fixed under warranty. > importantly--I requested that they fix the TFT screen. It gets "tweaked" > and has this offset pink-colored cast to it--so everything that's supposed > to be white, is instead pink (but offset to the right a bit). In addition, > the backlight turns off inexplicably (No, its not the power-saving features > activating--it happens when I'm in the middle of typing and also it does > *not* shut the screen off--just the backlight turns off). Definitely sounds like a defect. Ask them to explain how it was damage caused by the user. I ran into the same stonewalling twice with my 701. First time, because *all* the items I'd requested they fix were "damaged by user," they refused to return the machine until I paid for the repair, or paid them $135 for looking at and shipping the machine. I reluctantly agreed to pay for the repair which they did, but for some reason they never billed my credit card. Second time, some of the items were covered under warranty so they did not try to hold my machine hostage. I told them not to fix anything they'd labeled "damaged by user," but it came back with most of those items fixed anyway. > nd that, quite seriously, makes me question whether I should bother paying > the premium for Thinkpads anymore. We pay good money for these high-end > machines, in part because of a (presumably) long and excellent warranty. > Take that part out of the equation and what's left? I came to the same conclusion. That I got a 560 this time was merely coincidence (it was a refurb, most bang for the buck, and warranty wasn't an issue since it came with none). If I'd been shopping in December instead of October, I probably would've gotten the Toshiba 3010 instead. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 18:46:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA07647 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:46:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01205; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:45:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:42:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00994; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcom.com (genepool@netcom1.netcom.com [192.100.81.100]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00973; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:42:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from genepool@localhost) by netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id PAA27352; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:41:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:41:18 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Michael Subject: Re: EZServe Pointing the Finger At ME?! To: John Kim cc: TP List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, John Kim wrote: > I came to the same conclusion. That I got a 560 this time was > merely coincidence (it was a refurb, most bang for the buck, > and warranty wasn't an issue since it came with none). If I'd > been shopping in December instead of October, I probably > would've gotten the Toshiba 3010 instead. I find these warranty problems very disturbing since I have been an advocate for replacing our problem plagued Toshibas with Thinkpads, the great support from EZServe was a major selling point. However due to a corporate edict to buy Dells from now on, I suppose the point is moot. Cheers, Jim From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 20:07:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA08665 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:07:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05374; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:06:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:03:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05184; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:03:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05161; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:03:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from amlaptop ([203.96.106.4]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990211010251.MTUX682101.mta1-rme@amlaptop> for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:02:51 +1300 Message-ID: <002801be5559$fe0f04c0$046a60cb@amlaptop> From: "Andreas Michaelides" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: Re: 3Com CardBus ethernet problem: addendum Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:00:59 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >I considered this, but I thought PCI-based devices don't use interrupts -- >or that they use the interrupt assigned to the bus, which in my case is 11 >all around (for 4 PCI devices)? This card seems to be internally assigned >to IRQ 9, according to its DOS config program (and that's what it requests >when I try to install it under NT [insert hearty laugh here] ). I assumed >it would be automatically reassigned to 11 by Windows. When I try to assign >the hardware to 9, using the DOS configuration utility, it won't allow it -- >correctly pointing out that a device is already using it (the PCI bus!). > >I know interrupts are in short supply here, but I thought that problem was >partially alleviated by the use of CardBus devices in the first place. Is >my understanding of this askew? > Well theoretically yes, you are correct. But alas, we are dealing with microsoft and I've seen much stranger things happen, so I'd try freeing up IRQ's and see what happens. Sounds like you no your way around, but backup you reg and make a copy of you hardware config before you start disabling things. Windows 98 handles IRQ's much better than NT does. Later, Andreas!! :-) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 20:27:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA08862 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:27:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06475; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:26:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:24:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06317; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:24:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06280; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:24:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.6.48]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990211012410.BQAM26566@770>; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:24:10 +0000 Message-ID: <36C23129.280@worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:23:53 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randal Whittle CC: TP List , bill@thinkpads.com, "Kim, John" Subject: Re: EZServe Pointing the Finger At ME?! References: <4.1.20020210114817.00aa67d0@rcf.usc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: What exactly is the complaint that you sent it in for? Randal Whittle wrote: > > Lucky Me... > > I haven't had to send in a Thinkpad to EZServe for any kind of repair since > my 750C way back when. But back then, EZServe was hands-down incredible in > the service they provided. That's a major reason I kept coming back to buy > Thinkpads (I've owned 4 of them in the past 5 or 6 years). > > So imagine my surprise when I call up EZServe to see what the status is on > my TP 600 I just sent in (expecting it back today) when the person > answering the phone is telling me, "They're writing up an estimate for it." > > "An ESTIMATE? ITS UNDER WARRANTY!" > > Their reply? "Damage is customer-induced". > > BULL!!! That 'pad has been IMMACULATELY cared-for, NEVER remotely abused, > and treated, held, and carried sweeter than I carry my baby daughter. > > So all--Bill, John, et. al--anyone who's dealt with this recently: What do > I do? I've already asked that the situation be escalated--that I speak > with the next-level supervision--but where do I go from there? > > I am ADAMANT that the problem(s) be fixed under the warranty that I damn > well paid for when I purchased an expensive machine and to *NOT* have this > kind of crap sloughed off on me as though I were the culprit! > > - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 10 22:45:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA10614 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:45:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12689; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:44:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:42:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12471; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:42:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from sl001.infi.net (sl001.infi.net [205.219.238.210]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12450; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:42:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jimb@localhost) by sl001.infi.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA00180; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:42:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:42:12 -0500 (EST) From: James Biggerstaff To: Ed Brown cc: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: How to get other 2.5" drives working on 75x TP's In-Reply-To: <002901be5484$bed997a0$a573883e@silvermoon.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I put an IBM 5 GB drive in my 755C, and got it to work by removing the jumper selection pins. I did so with great trepidation, but it worked! Obviously difficult to guarantee that this will work with model XXXXXXX hard drive, so mileages WILL vary. jim Jim Biggerstaff jimb@infi.net Norfolk, Virginia, USA ======================================================================== These profound insights are NOT freeware. If found useful, please send money within 30 days. ======================================================================== From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 11 02:13:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA12944 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:13:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21506; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:12:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:11:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21385; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:11:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21372; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:11:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from Tigger (ppp2.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.2]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id BAA05637; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:11:03 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "David Talkington" To: "'Andreas Michaelides'" , "Thinkpad LISTSERV (E-mail)" Subject: RE: 3Com CardBus ethernet problem: addendum Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:10:30 -0600 Message-ID: <000201be558d$9c0251e0$0200a8c0@Tigger.SpotNet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <002801be5559$fe0f04c0$046a60cb@amlaptop> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I believe the problem has been solved. You led me in the right direction: > "If any of this is right, the reason your card would work sometimes is the Windows will try to move the IRQ's of other hardware around for you to give the network card an IRQ it likes. This can cause lockups, and thus if you crash or do something wrong windows forgets the revised settings and you are back to square 1." I remembered this afternoon that I'd had a row with a 3C574 (16 bit) under Windows NT on this machine. (I experiment with it on and off, mostly off, since NT's device support is abysmal and it's just not worth the trouble on a laptop). In the process, I had reassigned COM ports to nonstandard interrupts, in an attempt to give the 574 the IRQ it wanted. The BIOS interrupts were still in this unorthodox state, and have been for quite some time. Windows dealt with it, until now. I reset BIOS to its defaults, and that pesky 3Com Cardbus NIC installed quickly and cleanly, the first time. I even removed it and restored it, just for fun -- no problems. Provided it continues to behave, I'll consider the matter resolved. Thank you immensely for your suggestions. -David > -----Original Message----- > From: Andreas Michaelides [mailto:andreas@xtra.co.nz] > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 7:01 PM > To: Thinkpad LISTSERV > Subject: Re: 3Com CardBus ethernet problem: addendum > > > > > >I considered this, but I thought PCI-based devices don't use > interrupts -- > >or that they use the interrupt assigned to the bus, which in > my case is 11 > >all around (for 4 PCI devices)? This card seems to be > internally assigned > >to IRQ 9, according to its DOS config program (and that's > what it requests > >when I try to install it under NT [insert hearty laugh here] > ). I assumed > >it would be automatically reassigned to 11 by Windows. When I try to > assign > >the hardware to 9, using the DOS configuration utility, it > won't allow > it -- > >correctly pointing out that a device is already using it > (the PCI bus!). > > > >I know interrupts are in short supply here, but I thought > that problem was > >partially alleviated by the use of CardBus devices in the > first place. Is > >my understanding of this askew? > > > > Well theoretically yes, you are correct. But alas, we are dealing with > microsoft and I've seen much stranger things happen, so I'd > try freeing up > IRQ's and see what happens. Sounds like you no your way > around, but backup > you reg and make a copy of you hardware config before you > start disabling > things. > > Windows 98 handles IRQ's much better than NT does. > > Later, > Andreas!! > :-) > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 11 06:15:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA14433 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 06:15:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA11684; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 06:11:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 06:09:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA11557; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 06:09:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (phr@netcom9.netcom.com [192.100.81.119]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA11544; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 06:09:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id DAA18970 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 03:09:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 03:09:22 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199902111109.DAA18970@netcom9.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 770Z?! List-Unsubscribe: Any idea what this is? I just saw it mentioned on comp.sys.laptops. Apparently it was announced a couple weeks ago but isn't available yet. IBM's web site is not responding... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 11 10:29:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA16798 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:29:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22751; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:28:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:26:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22501; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:26:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22481; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:26:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from gummi.lcs.mit.edu by sls.lcs.mit.edu (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA05138; Thu, 11 Feb 99 09:32:32 EST Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <36C2EA00.DFF5DF69@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:32:32 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.1 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Randal Whittle Cc: morrow@treco.net, TP List Subject: Re: EZServe Pointing the Finger At ME?! References: <4.1.20020210114817.00aa67d0@rcf.usc.edu> <4.1.20020210121545.00adbce0@rcf.usc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: In the past six months, we've sent in three TP600s for peeling paint on the palmrest. All three were repaired (relevant case piece replaced) under warranty, no questions asked. This seems to be a common design flaw. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 11 11:17:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA17478 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:17:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26296; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:17:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:16:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26179; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:16:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26147; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:16:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from Tigger (ppp11.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.11]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id KAA03794 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:16:19 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV (E-mail)" Subject: RE: EZServe Pointing the Finger At ME?! Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:15:43 -0600 Message-ID: <000301be55d9$c71292e0$0200a8c0@Tigger.SpotNet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <36C2EA00.DFF5DF69@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: I've seen a lot of discussion about this, and it confuses me ... are these units in question built of painted metal cases, or is this painted plastic we're talking about? I've seen alloy cases, but not painted, and plastic housings are usually molded in black. > -----Original Message----- > From: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu [mailto:ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu] > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 1999 8:33 AM > To: Randal Whittle > Cc: morrow@treco.net; TP List > Subject: Re: EZServe Pointing the Finger At ME?! > > > In the past six months, we've sent in three TP600s for > peeling paint on > the palmrest. All three were repaired (relevant case piece replaced) > under warranty, no questions asked. This seems to be a common design > flaw. > > --Lee Hetherington > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 11 13:46:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA19407 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:46:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06487; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:45:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:42:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06108; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:42:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06088; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.3.237]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990211184128.EXPP7474@770>; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:41:28 +0000 Message-ID: <36C32449.1C16@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:41:13 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dtalk@soltec.net CC: "Thinkpad LISTSERV (E-mail)" Subject: Re: EZServe Pointing the Finger At ME?! References: <000301be55d9$c71292e0$0200a8c0@Tigger.SpotNet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: It seems to me that if IBM is going to start playing games as to the warranty, they are about to hear three very scary corporate words: CLASS ACTION SUIT The warranty contract is with IBM, not EZSERVE. IBM is responsible. David Talkington wrote: > > I've seen a lot of discussion about this, and it confuses me ... are these > units in question built of painted metal cases, or is this painted plastic > we're talking about? I've seen alloy cases, but not painted, and plastic > housings are usually molded in black. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu [mailto:ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu] > > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 1999 8:33 AM > > To: Randal Whittle > > Cc: morrow@treco.net; TP List > > Subject: Re: EZServe Pointing the Finger At ME?! > > > > > > In the past six months, we've sent in three TP600s for > > peeling paint on > > the palmrest. All three were repaired (relevant case piece replaced) > > under warranty, no questions asked. This seems to be a common design > > flaw. > > > > --Lee Hetherington > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 11 14:32:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA20095 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:32:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10645; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:29:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:26:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10300; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:26:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10276; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from dante04.u.washington.edu (williams@dante04.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.6]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.9.2+UW99.01/8.9.2+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA15446 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:25:50 -0800 Received: from localhost (williams@localhost) by dante04.u.washington.edu (8.9.2+UW99.01/8.9.2+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA47042 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:25:50 -0800 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:25:49 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Williams" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Etherjet/Cardbus Enabler / Mouse Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I what is Etherjet? Is it another term for Ethernet? How well does it work compared to Ethernet Lan PC Cards. Is it based on Cardbus or some other format? Also, is the Cardbus Enabler worth it? Is it a good solution for expansion Finally, I would like to add a mouse (probably a wheel mouse) to my 770ED. Is there a significant difference betweeen the Microsoft Intellimouse (Pro) and the Logitech Mouseman(+)? How about trackballs? Thanks, John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 11 19:12:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA24304 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:11:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02613; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:10:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:07:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01999; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:07:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01959; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwdesk (ppp-225-034.usc.edu [128.125.225.34]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id QAA05753; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:07:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990211153849.00ae9630@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:06:23 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: EZServe Revisited--Doing the Right Thing? Cc: bill@thinkpads.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi all, For those of you following the perils of my EZServe experience... In a nutshell, it looks like all will be well. To wit: I spoke today with a customer service rep. He asked me about the paint peeling issue (I should note that they never argued about whether they'd replace the HD--it definitely was developing bad sectors and they covered that under warranty). It seemed that the paint peel on the corner was covered by some IBM directive that mentioned a small design flaw that caused that. However, the paint peel above the left speaker (in the palmrest) was, they say, caused by me because I peeled the sticker off. Well of course I fully copped to peeling the sticker off--it was one of those "Designed for Windows 95" Microsoft advertisements that had no business mucking up my beautiful computer in the first place! And I would have peeled off the "Intel Inside" P-II sticker too if not for the poor experience with how the other sticker came off. My argument was that the damn things should never be on the computer in the first place and I shouldn't *have* to peel them off--and if they must put them on, they should be easily removable without causing the problem. I argued that it was their damn "superglue" on the stickers that caused the paint damage, not my innocuous attempt at removing them. I don't know if they would have pushed it any farther, because the bottom line is that the corner area was *not* related to any sticker, and it was all part of the same case/bezel anyway, so replacement was inevitable. Battle #1 ended satisfactorily for me. Battle #2: The TFT screen: I had reported 3 problems with the TFT, the least being a bad pixel. The other two items being (1) Unexplained backlight shutoffs (*not* screen shutoffs--just the backlight--and it would happen in the middle of typing, so it had nothing to do with power-saving features), and (2) A pink cast or haze that would replace anything white on the screen, but offset to the right a little bit. This would usually happen upon opening and boot-up, has become increasingly worse since I first noticed it soon after purchasing the machine, and I had determined had something to do with how the computer was handled while closed--if you gripped it in your hand (cradled) at the hinge area, it would most certainly cause the pink haze. It was maddening and difficult to get it to "go back" to normal. Problem? I don't know if the initial tech. was a fool or what, but they completely ignored the latter two issues--they focused only on the pixel and said, "Too bad--its not enough for us to replace it." OK, I can understand that (even if I disagree), but WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THE SCREEN PROBLEMS? The entire list was written up when I first talked to EZServe, AND IN ADDITION I included a short letter with the machine--taped to the machine itself--which described all the issues I wanted addressed! HOW COULD THEY MISS IT? I don't know--its a mystery to me, but it is as if they decided that because a single bad pixel didn't warrant replacement of the TFT screen, the other two items wouldn't even be considered. Ug. Well, I got them to consider them. Initially the cust. svc. person said they couldn't replicate the "pink" problem (and the backlight shutoff happened only occasionally, so that was difficult to "show" them), SO THEY DIDN'T CONSIDER IT! Grrr...so I told him exactly how to replicate it (carefully--I didn't want them thinking this was any problem *I* created). He said he'd send it on down to the tech people and see what happens. I told him to request that a tech call me with the machine in front of him, so that if necessary, I could talk him through it. Surprisngly enough, 2 or 3 hours later, a tech from IBM--a competent, well-spoken gentleman by the name of Paul Dunaway--did just that. Sure enough, he saw the pink haze I had earlier described and agreed that it was a significant problem to be addressed. The long and the short of it? (1) Bezel (and I think keyboard) will be replaced because of paint-peel issues. (2) TFT will not be replaced--single pixel is not enough. However, they believe the "pink" thing and the backlight issue are created by a ribbon cable connection being faulty, and will fix that problem. If that's what takes place, I'm fine with that. I didn't necessarily want the screen replaced (though it would have been a nice bonus), just mainly didn't want this pink haze on the screen or my backlight to go off inexplicably. Paul suggested that he didn't see any reason he wouldn't be able to fix these issues and get the machine sent off tonight--which means I should see it tomorrow, with everything but that bad pixel addressed. If that's what happens, I'm very happy with it. And I'm glad IBM and EZServe (hopefully) will have made good on their warranty to my satisfaction. I just wish they had paid better attention to the repair request in the first place so I wouldn't have had to make all these phone calls to get it done. All it took was for the initial tech to pick up the phone and say, "What's this about a pink haze?" and I could have told him how to replicate it. Presumably that could have been done Tuesday and I wouldn't have had to jump through hoops. But in the end...the right thing appears to be done (I'll certainly let you know if I get the machine back and it *isn't*), and to that end...Kudos, IBM. Despite this little lover's spat, you've made good on your promise and I'm still happy to be a Thinkpadder after all these years. And after all the people I've influenced in your direction to get Thinkpads over some other machine...that's a really good thing, because I estimate you've made tens of thousands of dollars from TP purchases I recommended. You can bet that I don't take a screwing lightly and a *lot* of people would know about it and buy from a competitor at my urging. I can be a very good friend, or... So Thank You. But in the future...could you just pay a little better attention over there at EZServe? - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 00:08:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA27399 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:08:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16545; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:07:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:05:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16308; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:05:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16293; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:04:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwdesk (ppp-224-008.usc.edu [128.125.224.8]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id VAA13157 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:04:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990211205527.00af69a0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:03:38 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: More on EZServe (Good!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: How's this for interesting... As I mentioned earlier, the tech at IBM EZServe (Paul) was quite helpful when he called to let me know he had replicated my "pink" screen problem. And I had agreed that with only 1 pixel bad, replacing the screen wasn't in the cards. Paul had earlier told me that fixing a cable connection from the motherboard to screen (or something similar) would likely solve the "pink" screen problem, which meant no other good reason to replace the TFT. I was looking forward to getting my TP 600 back tomorrow, with all else fixed. Later tonight, Paul called and told me he had some good news and some bad news. Then he followed with, "Well, the bad news is only bad for us." Huh? Well it seems that in the process of fixing my "pink" problem (which as it turned out, it was indeed just the cable connection), one of the screws was stripped and something happened to the plastic "frame" which holds the TFT. Having broken it (though it could be fixed in refurb), that meant he had to replace the TFT. As he said, good news for me, bad news for IBM. ;-) What can I say? I'm not one to look a gift horse in the mouth. In my view, its some sort of karmic payback for all the trouble I went through trying to get these people to address the problems I had already detailed for them. So...to the powers that be that enabled this little turn of events...thank you! Its a nice little bonus. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 00:19:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA27556 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:19:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17304; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:18:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:18:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17188; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:18:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17170; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:17:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:17:21 -0500 Sender: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us Received: from atreyu (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by hil-img-ims-1.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id AAA19753 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:16:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990211231401.007cada0@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:14:01 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Ron Heiby Subject: Re: EZServe Revisited--Doing the Right Thing? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990211153849.00ae9630@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 04:06 PM 2/11/99 -0800, Randy Whittle wrote: >The entire list was written up when I first talked to EZServe, >AND IN ADDITION I included a short letter with the machine--taped to >the machine itself--which described all the issues I wanted addressed! Nothing surprises me since an experience I had a few years ago with a car repair. For several months, every time I took the car to the dealer for one thing or another, I mentioned the rattle that continued to plague it. They always claimed not to be able to hear the rattle. Of course, they always said this with the attitude that I must be on drugs. On one of the last attempts to get it fixed, I handed them a sheet of paper with the steps required to reproduce the problem: 1) Start car. 2) Apply brake. 3) Put car into gear. 4) Listen to rattle. Seems pretty simple, right. Imagine my surprise when I again got the *full attitude* "We're sorry, Mr. Heiby, but we couldn't hear a rattle." I asked for the service tech to be brought over. I asked him whether he had been given my 4-step list. He said that he had, but hadn't paid any attention to it. So, I asked how he went about trying to hear the rattle. He said, "Well, I started the car, put it up on the lift, and walked all around it.". I replied with something like, "You know, when I put the car up on *my* lift, I don't hear a rattle, either! Let's try the steps I suggested." "Oh, that's a pretty bad rattle!" The really bad part of all this is that this dealership has all sorts of signs in their service department and the waiting area from the car company, congratulating them on having the Number One Service Facility in the region. And this was "the best car made in America" when I bought it. Well, I had enough of the "best", and have no plans to buy another of that manufacturer's products. So, it isn't all that surprising when a technician totally ignores the statement or problem. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: My Primary Signing Key: 0xBFF69509 available from keyservers iQA/AwUBNsO4kW8pw+2/9pUJEQLrMACg7P6wmL8Zpi/NraQGEOV5smedt8UAn1gz CxFVNzD9PizQSwN50/yCXAvJ =eR8W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 00:44:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA28352 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:44:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18284; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:42:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:42:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18183; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:42:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18170; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:41:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-4.gate.net [199.227.173.4]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA194978; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:41:46 -0500 Message-ID: <36C3BF1B.FB2163C4@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:41:47 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Rubin CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770Z?! References: <199902111109.DAA18970@netcom9.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul... try MY website for some of the specs and initial pricing on the 770Z.. FYI: PII-366, 14gig HDD and more... its due anytime from now to early march.. last i heard they were being built now.. Paul Rubin wrote: > Any idea what this is? I just saw it mentioned on comp.sys.laptops. > Apparently it was announced a couple weeks ago but isn't available yet. > IBM's web site is not responding... -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 01:01:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA28486 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:01:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19021; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:00:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:59:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18933; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:59:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18911; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:59:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-4.gate.net [199.227.173.4]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA89886; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:59:09 -0500 Message-ID: <36C3C32D.D54DFA04@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:59:09 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ron Heiby CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: EZServe Revisited--Doing the Right Thing? References: <3.0.5.32.19990211231401.007cada0@popmail.mcs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ron.. your experience with the car remind me why the personalized license plate on my Cadillac Allante reads: "MTBF 1HR" but thats not the entire reason my next car will be a used toyota or lexus or the like.. the cadillac dealer's i have tried either overcharge (Braman motors) or are industrial strength inept (Fischer Cadillac)... (see, I NAME NAMES) but thats not the subject of this thread.. It always perplexes me that IBM shoots themselves in the foot.. last i heard, ez serve had been sold and was not part of IBM any more.. it was independant and had contracts to repair IBM and other brands.. thus, when a thinkpad comes into ez serve, if they can make $$ on it, rather than take what i suppose is a minimal, low bidder, payment to repair a TP under warranty, they will go for it.. a few years ago, if you sent a TP in for warranty repair, they would fix whatever was wrong, then replace any cracked parts, lost parts, trackpoint tips, logos and the like.. no sweat, no argument, just a happy customer.. a happy customer is always worth a bit of expense.. NOW, sadly, it has all changed.... Ron Heiby wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > At 04:06 PM 2/11/99 -0800, Randy Whittle wrote: > >The entire list was written up when I first talked to EZServe, > >AND IN ADDITION I included a short letter with the machine--taped to > >the machine itself--which described all the issues I wanted addressed! > > Nothing surprises me since an experience I had a few years ago with a car > repair. For several months, every time I took the car to the dealer for one > thing or another, I mentioned the rattle that continued to plague it. They > always claimed not to be able to hear the rattle. Of course, they always said > this with the attitude that I must be on drugs. > > On one of the last attempts to get it fixed, I handed them a sheet of paper > with the steps required to reproduce the problem: > > 1) Start car. > 2) Apply brake. > 3) Put car into gear. > 4) Listen to rattle. > > Seems pretty simple, right. Imagine my surprise when I again got the *full > attitude* "We're sorry, Mr. Heiby, but we couldn't hear a rattle." I asked for > the service tech to be brought over. I asked him whether he had been given my > 4-step list. He said that he had, but hadn't paid any attention to it. So, I > asked how he went about trying to hear the rattle. He said, "Well, I started > the car, put it up on the lift, and walked all around it.". I replied with > something like, "You know, when I put the car up on *my* lift, I don't hear a > rattle, either! Let's try the steps I suggested." "Oh, that's a pretty bad > rattle!" > > The really bad part of all this is that this dealership has all sorts of signs > in their service department and the waiting area from the car company, > congratulating them on having the Number One Service Facility in the region. > And this was "the best car made in America" when I bought it. Well, I had > enough of the "best", and have no plans to buy another of that manufacturer's > products. > > So, it isn't all that surprising when a technician totally ignores the > statement or problem. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 > Comment: My Primary Signing Key: 0xBFF69509 available from keyservers > > iQA/AwUBNsO4kW8pw+2/9pUJEQLrMACg7P6wmL8Zpi/NraQGEOV5smedt8UAn1gz > CxFVNzD9PizQSwN50/yCXAvJ > =eR8W > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Ron. -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 01:05:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA28583 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:05:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19336; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:05:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19243; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:05:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19230; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:04:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-4.gate.net [199.227.173.4]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA311626; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:04:32 -0500 Message-ID: <36C3C471.19E157FD@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:04:33 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Williams" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Etherjet/Cardbus Enabler / Mouse References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: J... J. Williams wrote: > I what is Etherjet? a model name that IBM puts on their PCMCIA network cards.. > Is it another term for Ethernet? How well does it > work compared to Ethernet Lan PC Cards. Is it based on Cardbus or some > other format? > yes, cardbuss card.. > Also, is the Cardbus Enabler worth it? Is it a good solution for > expansion > PC Card enabler..??you mean the add on for the selecta base to add 2 PCMCIA card slots..?? only you know the depth of your pocket vs. the height of your need/desire.. :-) > Finally, I would like to add a mouse (probably a wheel mouse) to my 770ED. > Is there a significant difference betweeen the Microsoft Intellimouse > (Pro) and the Logitech Mouseman(+)? How about trackballs? > can't advise here.. > Thanks, John -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 06:38:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA01317 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:38:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14252; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:37:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14064; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14051; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:36:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldgcl.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.193.149]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA18465; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:36:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902121136.GAA18465@camel14.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow" , "David Kramer" Cc: "thinkpad mailing list" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 99 03:36:21 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Error 174 with new hard drive. List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:08:09 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >David.. >your problem is common, and, if the HDD is OK, then simple to remedy.. >BUT >i need more info.. >1. HOW are you connecting the HDD to the 755 ? >2. what brand is it..? > Good questions. The newer drives (usually 1GB and over) don't need any jumpers. At least recent 1-2 year old and more recent drives don't need them. The older ones do need jumpers. 2 good examples are the drives on both my 750 and 701. Both don't need jumpers, but the drives they replaced did. If it wasn't jumpered correctly, I DID get some kind of error. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 06:41:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA01360 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:41:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14570; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:41:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:41:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14472; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:41:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14459; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:41:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldgcl.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.193.149]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA11284; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:41:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902121141.GAA11284@camel14.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Bill Morrow" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 99 03:41:11 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Error 174 with new hard drive. List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:30:16 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >David.. >the thing is: >1. i hate to do tech support for the competition.. :-) Could I blame you? Usually an issue where I work (OfficeMax). >BUT >2. the drive select was changed from the time of your original HDD.. reversed, in fact.. >3. depending on the HDD shell you're using, it is most likely telling the machine that the drive is a >slave, thus the machine does not see the drive and you get the 174 error.. Yeah, this sounds about right. >SOLUTION.. >4. Surgery, on the cable/plug assy or the HDD itself (not a good idea) But it works. You just have to use LOTS of caution. The way the connector on the 350/360/75x series drives us almost like a cable select, but it somehow shorts out the first 2 pins, making the drive master. On the newer drives, it makes it slave. The only way to fix it is to CUT OFF the pins on the HD. Now the side effect is that if you ever use it on a desktop, you won't be able to use it as a slave drive. >5. New HDD shell.. :-) (this is where i get paid, heheheh) > >that 3.2gig drive is a good one.. and it'll work (if it works at all).. >i've had them in so many machines..!! > Oh yeah, anything over 1GB is good. I'm actually thinking whether or not I'll swap the 2.1GB drive in my 750 with the 1.2GB that's in the 760CD I'm getting tomo, err, today (in the next 6 or so hours, since I'm writing this at almost 4am!). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 06:43:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA01383 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:43:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14807; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:43:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:42:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14636; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:42:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14608; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:42:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldgcl.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.193.149]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA24519; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:42:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902121142.GAA24519@camel14.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Bill Morrow" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 99 03:42:11 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to get other 2.5" drives working on 75x TP's List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:32:27 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >IBM did not change the drive select, EVERYONE did.. >(IBM, Toshiba, Seagate, Fujitsu, et al) And although it might seem minor, I bet not using all those jumpers must have saved IBM, Toshiba, et al a pretty penny, too. Plus it's easier to configure (which jumber goes where, etc). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 06:44:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA01393 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA15139; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:43:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14903; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:43:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14811; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:43:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldgcl.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.193.149]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA17249 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:43:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902121143.GAA17249@camel14.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 99 03:43:06 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ThinkPad 760CD List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone on this list still use a 760CD, or any kind of 760? Is the 760X the last version IBM made? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 08:26:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA02050 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:26:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19240; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:26:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:25:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19068; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:25:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from eeyore.eon.net (eeyore.eon.net [199.185.220.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19053; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:25:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from clgr000020.hs.telusplanet.net ([161.184.80.20]:1813 "EHLO ibm.net") by eeyore.eon.net with ESMTP id <84167-23220>; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:24:40 -0700 Message-ID: <36C42B62.A55BD954@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:24:03 -0700 From: Geza Szivos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 760CD References: <199902121143.GAA17249@camel14.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: My daughter is still using my 760CD-C13 . That Top of the Line ThinkPad is just turning 3 years old end of this month. Yes 760X is the latest. Paul Khoury wrote: > Does anyone on this list still use a 760CD, or any kind of 760? Is the 760X the last version > IBM made? > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! > Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 > ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 08:33:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA02106 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:33:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20194; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:32:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20048; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:32:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (IDENT:kim@fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20018; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:31:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA17816 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:31:52 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:31:51 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: TP List Subject: Re: More on EZServe (Good!) In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990211205527.00af69a0@rcf.usc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Randal Whittle wrote: > holds the TFT. Having broken it (though it could be fixed in refurb), that > meant he had to replace the TFT. As he said, good news for me, bad news > for IBM. ;-) > > What can I say? I'm not one to look a gift horse in the mouth. In my > view, its some sort of karmic payback for all the trouble I went through > trying to get these people to address the problems I had already detailed $10 says the new TFT has > 1 bad pixel. :-) -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 08:51:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA02335 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:51:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21253; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:49:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:48:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21160; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21126; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:48:43 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from AlanCDane@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id GEIEa20554; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:48:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6c237793.36c43110@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:48:00 EST To: pkhoury@mindspring.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: ThinkPad 760CD Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 2/12/99 6:49:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, pkhoury@mindspring.com writes: << Does anyone on this list still use a 760CD, or any kind of 760? Is the 760X the last version IBM made? >> Got a 760 ED and really like the ease of operation and the promptness of it's internet connection. all around a great laptop Alan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 09:35:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA02714 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:35:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24272; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:31:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:30:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24054; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:30:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23978; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:29:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from [158.152.127.170] (helo=moab.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 10BJbF-0000h8-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 14:29:45 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 14:28:21 +0000 To: ThinkPad List From: Greg Terrell Subject: Re: ThinkPad 760CD References: <199902121143.GAA17249@camel14.mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <199902121143.GAA17249@camel14.mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 4.01 List-Unsubscribe: In message <199902121143.GAA17249@camel14.mindspring.com>, Paul Khoury writes >Does anyone on this list still use a 760CD Yes - one of my colleagues still uses a 760CD (that I used to use!). It's now 3 years 2 months old. -- Greg Terrell From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 10:48:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA03527 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:48:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28459; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:46:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:44:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28181; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:44:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28166; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:43:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.12.145]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990212154315.CJWE2354@770>; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:43:15 +0000 Message-ID: <36C44BFE.5FD0@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:42:54 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 760CD References: <199902121143.GAA17249@camel14.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I still use a 760CD and a 760ED Tjhe CD is slowed down by the ISA bus, but it is a good machine if you are not trying to do high tech games. Paul Khoury wrote: > > Does anyone on this list still use a 760CD, or any kind of 760? Is the 760X the last version > IBM made? > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! > Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 > ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 10:53:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA03586 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:53:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29128; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:51:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:50:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28819; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:50:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28782; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:49:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldhe8.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.197.200]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA07644; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:49:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902121549.KAA07644@camel14.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "scosgt@worldnet.att.net" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 99 07:49:39 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ThinkPad 760CD List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:42:54 -0500, Bruce Markowitz wrote: >I still use a 760CD and a 760ED >Tjhe CD is slowed down by the ISA bus, but it is a good machine if you >are not trying to do high tech games. > Trust me, I've seen slower. And SCSI, for that matter. But for MP3's in the car, it should be good, right? I'm also using it to just plain replace my 701. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 11:09:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA03781 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:09:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01122; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:06:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:06:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00990; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:06:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from I1.genam.com ([208.209.229.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00945; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:05:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from insight-tech.com ([10.4.56.10]) by I1.genam.com (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) with SMTP id 86256716.005889FF; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:07:04 -0600 Message-ID: <36C45087.D2715B7E@insight-tech.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:02:15 -0600 From: Brian Button Organization: Insight Technology Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: (770X) Any bad side-effects of converting C: to FAT32? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I'd love to free up some room on my C: drive, as it came from the factory almost 3/4 full. If I convert to FAT32, I can reduce my cluster size and regain a bunch of space on this drive. I did see a couple of downsides to this on the IBM website, involving some of the recovery CDs being unable to work with a FAT32 partition for C:. Has anyone done this conversion? How well did it work out for you? BTW - an introduction. I'm a long-time software developer, so I was looking for the best software development platform I could find that would both replace my desktop and function very well on the road. I ended up buying the 770X 7AU model (128Meg, 8Gig, Win98, DVD) as the best mix of those features, plus the ability to play some games and movies on those long trips :) So far, I'm very happy with my choice. The 1280x1024 resolution gives an incredible image, the battery life seems to be around 3 hours (I've just installed Rain, and I'll see if that helps that a bunch). I am going to resize the D: partition a bit and install RH5.2 (or 6.0) Linux within the next month. We'll see how that goes... bab -- Brian Button bbutton@insight-tech.com Senior Consultant Insight Technology Group, Inc. Product Reviews Editor C++ Report Magazine From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 11:09:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA03787 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:09:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01324; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:08:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:07:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01209; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:07:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww182.netaddress.usa.net (ww182.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.82]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01191; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:07:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5135 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Feb 1999 16:05:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990212160519.5134.qmail@ww182.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.82 by ww182 via web-mailer(R2.6) on Fri Feb 12 16:05:19 GMT 1999 Date: 12 Feb 99 08:05:19 PST From: Rob Bell To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: [ThinkPad 760CD] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: >Does anyone on this list still use a 760CD, or any kind of 760? Is the = >760X the last version >IBM made? Our business unit still has a large number of 760ELs deployed. They serv= e our consultants' needs quite well for the most part. If you load them with 4= 0 or 56MB of memory they do many normal tasks reasonably well (office suite, e-mail, Internet browsing, light developmentlike web stuff). The biggest= drawback is the rather small, dim screen (11.1" passive). Absolutely no comparison with the large, bright active matrix on my 770. They are very= solid machines and flexible too (can swap floppy, CD, etc., and switch ha= rd drives easily). HTH, Rob Bell ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at htt= p://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 11:24:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA04015 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:24:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02919; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:21:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:19:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02504; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:19:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02437; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:19:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwdesk (ppp-224-051.usc.edu [128.125.224.51]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id IAA05953; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:19:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990212081201.00b97a10@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:17:49 -0800 To: John Kim , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: More on EZServe (Good!) In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19990211205527.00af69a0@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:31 AM 2/12/99 -0500, you wrote: >On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Randal Whittle wrote: > >> holds the TFT. Having broken it (though it could be fixed in refurb), that >> meant he had to replace the TFT. As he said, good news for me, bad news >> for IBM. ;-) >> >> What can I say? I'm not one to look a gift horse in the mouth. In my >> view, its some sort of karmic payback for all the trouble I went through >> trying to get these people to address the problems I had already detailed > >$10 says the new TFT has > 1 bad pixel. :-) Leave it up to you John, to be the resident optimist. ;-) Actually, when I Paul called me about it, I asked him specifically for one thing: That the TFT he put in be in perfect condition--no bad pixels. He turned it on, ran a full-screen color test, looked for bad pixels, and told me there were none. I haven't gotten the machine back just yet, but I'm willing to believe he wouldn't lie to me. I'll certainly let you all know if he did, but for now, let's assume I'm ahead of the game. :-) (And I'm quittin' while I'm ahead!) Oddly enough, I had seen the bad sectors on the HD coming a couple of months ago and bought a new (bigger--6.4 GB) HD from Bill Morrow. I figured when I had a lull in my work needs for the laptop (which I recently did), I'd send it in with all the other problems to be fixed. So now I'll get my original 3 GB HD back and I intend to use that with the inexpensive Ultraslim Bay HD adapter I just got, for when I need that extra space. Might offload some video editing/compiling onto the TP--have both machines (my desktop being the other) running overnight to compile vids 2x as fast. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 11:25:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA04025 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:25:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03427; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:23:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:22:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03173; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:22:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from ares.actionwebs.net (ares.actionwebs.net [208.244.215.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02983; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:21:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from markl (customer-165.actionwebs.net [208.244.215.165]) by ares.actionwebs.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA11109 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:19:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:34:31 -0500 Message-ID: <01BE567B.A81A13C0.mlemon@hickseq.com> From: Mark Lemon Reply-To: "mlemon@hickseq.com" To: Thinkpad LISTSERV Subject: TPP600 and HP Scanjet Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:28:50 -0500 Organization: Hicks Equipment, Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I just purchased a HP Scanjet 4100Cse desktop scanners with the USB port for my Thinkpad 600 Pii233 w. 64Mb. Everything installed correctly and the thing worked for one scan. Now whenever I plug it in and start the laptop, the odds are only about 1 in 4 that the 600 will recognize the scanner. Tried the obvious: changed cables, uninstalled and reinstalled the software, etc. HP won't take it back because it's over 30 days old and it's not broke - supposedly the USB ports IBM uses aren't a "standard". Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Mark From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 11:30:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA04105 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:30:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03431; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:23:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:22:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03171; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:22:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.inreach.com (mail.inreach.com [209.142.0.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03020; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:21:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from jerryray (209-142-2-48.stk.inreach.net [209.142.2.48]) by mail.inreach.com (8.8.8/8.8.6/(InReach)) with ESMTP id IAA15959 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:10:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902121610.IAA15959@mail.inreach.com> Reply-To: From: "Jerry & Janice Ray" To: "thinkpad" Subject: Need help with hardrive Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:19:51 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello everyone on list, I am in need of some help trying to get a 2.1 hardrive working in my tp 755cd thinkpad.Just after i try to load windows 95 B it says I have error( SU-0013 )setup could not create files on your startup drive and cannot setup Windows.I have fdisked & formated. Any help Please Thanks. Jerry djmusic@inreach.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 13:15:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA05785 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11902; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:10:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11524; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:10:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11493; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:10:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldhe8.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.197.200]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA08313 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:10:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902121810.NAA08313@camel14.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 99 10:10:06 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ThinkPad 760ED List-Unsubscribe: Turns out I lucked out, and I got a 760ED instead. IBM's website says my machine 9546-U9A is a Pentium 133, not the Pentium 90 I paid/was expecting. And it has 48MB of RAM, while I was told it was originally 40MB. Looks like I got one great machine! One directly ThinkPad question, though - has anyone successfully got Warp 4 to work with MWave on this machine? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 13:22:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA05919 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:22:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12609; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:18:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:18:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12490; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:18:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12468; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:18:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.16.236]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990212181733.DCZL15616@770>; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:17:33 +0000 Message-ID: <36C47022.56C4@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:17:06 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: djmusic@inreach.com CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: Need help with hardrive References: <199902121610.IAA15959@mail.inreach.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: You need to use the FDISK on the W95B CD, or create a smaller C partition. There is a approx 2 MB limit that W95 can support on one partition, unless you use FAT32. Allow the FDISK and FORMAT on the CD to set up large disk support. Jerry & Janice Ray wrote: > > Hello everyone on list, I am in need of some help trying to get a 2.1 > hardrive working in my tp 755cd thinkpad.Just after i try to load windows > 95 B it says I have error( SU-0013 )setup could not create files on your > startup drive and cannot setup Windows.I have fdisked & formated. Any help > Please Thanks. > Jerry djmusic@inreach.com > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 13:55:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA06432 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:55:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15096; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:49:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14859; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:49:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from agape.wingnet.net (root@agape.wingnet.net [206.30.215.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14839; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:49:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from homepc (port67.wingnet.net [206.30.215.67]) by agape.wingnet.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA24985 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:49:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002701be56b8$9c345880$43d71ece@homepc> From: "Graham" To: Subject: Introducing me and my dinosaur (TP365CSD) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:50:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Hello: I have just signed onto the Thinkpad list and wanted to introduce myself. I am a former programmer/analyst turned sociology professor. I currently teach at Lee University in Tennessee. I have a lovely, but ailing Thinkpad 365CSD that has (until recently) been extremely reliable and well mannered. It has a 486 75Mhz processor with a 540MB hard drive, 24 MB of ram, an external floppy, and an internal 2x CD-ROM drive (TEAC CD-40E). The CD-ROM bit the dust just after I had removed most of my applications in preparation for upgrading to Windows 98. I have checked all of the troubleshooting tips at IBM and a few others. The trouble is almost certainly hardware. I cannot get any answer from IBM about the compatibility of other CD drives with this system. In their options page, they suggest external drives only. Perhaps they can't imagine one this old still being in service. Does anyone know if the TEAC CD-46E drives (or any others for that matter) will work in this model? Any recommendations will be appreciated. Many thanks, Bob Graham From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 16:02:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA08688 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:02:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24530; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:59:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:54:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24079; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:54:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24065; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:54:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.15.59]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990212205355.LLZX29541@770>; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:53:55 +0000 Message-ID: <36C494C8.4FF9@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:53:28 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 760ED References: <199902121810.NAA08313@camel14.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: That is a SUPER machine, the previous top of the line. W95 OSR2 requires an updated PCMCIA driver. Other than high-tech games (but it will do stuff like Need for Speed 1 and Road Rash just fine) this is an all around workhorse machine! Paul Khoury wrote: > > Turns out I lucked out, and I got a 760ED instead. IBM's website says > my machine 9546-U9A is a Pentium 133, not the Pentium 90 I paid/was expecting. And > it has 48MB of RAM, while I was told it was originally 40MB. Looks like I got one great machine! > > One directly ThinkPad question, though - has anyone successfully got Warp 4 to work with MWave > on this machine? > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! > Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 > ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 19:41:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA11312 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:41:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07512; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:40:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:39:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07351; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:39:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07337; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-013.usc.edu [128.125.223.13]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id QAA06254 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:38:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990212150054.00aeeb60@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:39:03 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: TP back from EZServe... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Well, the ordeal seems to be over. My TP 600 is back in my hands and all appears to be well. A few final thoughts: Despite the initial kick-in-the-butt this all was, I did manage to get the following: - Sent on Monday, received back on Friday. Not quite the Wed. return I had expected, but still pretty darn good. I managed to survive and will have my machine available for use in upcoming work. - Fit & Finish: Like new. Frankly, I'm astounded. The front palmrest/bezel *and* the keyboard is *new*. I feel like I'm typing on a new machine again. They even put a new Trackpoint cap on it! In fact, because they replaced the TFT screen, I not only no longer have a glaring bad pixel in the middle of the screen, I also seem to have a new "lid". As a matter of fact, that only exterior item I can obviously determine is my original machine is the underlying plastic/composite base, where I recognize some minor scratches. In some sense, its almost as if the only original parts of my machine is the motherboard/CPU, base, ports, and battery. Even the HD was replaced due to bad sectors popping up. Really, its like a new machine. I know I had my problems getting the issues resolved, but the point is--they were. I have to give them credit for that. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 22:57:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA12968 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:57:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13634; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:56:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:55:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13485; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:55:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13468; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:54:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldhfm.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.197.246]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA25510; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:54:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902130354.WAA25510@camel14.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Adrian : Invio" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 99 19:54:55 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ThinkPad 760CD List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:38:27 +0700, Adrian : Invio wrote: > > >>Does anyone on this list still use a 760CD, or any kind of 760? >> >Yup. A 760ED that resembles a cow because of the peeling paint, and a >keyboard that needs to be pounded, and a pointer that is waaay too slow >(compared to my previous Toshiba). > >I know the issue of peeling paint has been discussed quite a bit. Since I >am in Indonesia, warranties aren't as rock solid as they are supposed to be. >So are there any suggestions? Has anyone actually peeled the *entire* layer >off? I'm sure the machine can't be THAT bad, but as for the paint, been there, ALMOST done that on my 701. A LOT of the paint, or rubber surface actually, peeled off. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 12 23:40:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA13445 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15541; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:38:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15429; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:38:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15413; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldhfm.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.197.246]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA07926 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:38:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902130438.XAA07926@camel14.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 99 20:38:28 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problems playing MP3s List-Unsubscribe: I'm having problems playing MP3s. Either WarpAMP (for OS/2), or the text AMP.EXE will completely lock up the system after you stop playing a file, or you finish playing a file. This is on my 760ED. Maybe I need some updated mwave drivers? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 13 00:26:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA13859 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:26:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17715; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:25:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:24:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17589; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:24:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17575; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:24:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldhfm.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.197.246]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA06501 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:24:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902130524.AAA06501@camel14.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 99 21:24:44 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Problems playing MP3s List-Unsubscribe: Ironically, I think I've solved the problem. I did download the latest version of the software, which specifically had a option for specifing an mwave adapter, but it didn't work. Strangely, a different player works. Has anyone had any similiar problems, including through Windows 95/98? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 13 00:44:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA13971 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18381; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:41:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:41:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18277; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:40:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18261; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:40:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-254.gate.net [207.36.212.254]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA396704; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:40:24 -0500 Message-ID: <36C51047.189DFE8B@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:40:23 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randal Whittle CC: TP List Subject: Re: EZServe Revisited--Doing the Right Thing? References: <3.0.5.32.19990211231401.007cada0@popmail.mcs.net> <4.1.19990212080919.04dd8100@rcf.usc.edu> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------BE1E3DD750B97888A325419F" List-Unsubscribe: --------------BE1E3DD750B97888A325419F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Randy.. Randal Whittle wrote: > At 12:59 AM 2/12/99 -0500, you wrote: > > >It always perplexes me that IBM shoots themselves in the foot.. > > >a few years ago, if you sent a TP in for warranty repair, they would fix > >whatever > >was wrong, then replace any cracked parts, lost parts, trackpoint tips, > >logos and > >the like.. > >no sweat, no argument, just a happy customer.. a happy customer is always > >worth a > >bit of expense.. > > You didn't quite go all the way in this description Bill... > HUH..!!?Are you telling me that i lack the requisite verbosity..?? :-) > What you should have pointed out more clearly is the following fact: in > the "good 'ol days", EZServe not only promptly fixed anything you > complained about, but they went through the machine, found anything *else* > that wasn't perfectly "right", and fixed that too! The resulting machine > was *literally* as good as new. > > Sadly, I think some people took undue advantage of that, which is probably > why we're in the state of affairs we are now. > i think the culture has changed..(not to mention the sale of easy serve) the customer may now be considered a fool, an adversar or a profit center... [Image] sort of like the telephone company and 411 information.. when it was free, they would send anyone any telephone book, free.. they ran ads talking about the $55M phone call.. now that 411 information is now a profit center, a phone book for the next county costs $30 and there are NO ads saying use the phone book rather than dialing 411 > - Randy Whittle -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. --------------BE1E3DD750B97888A325419F Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------230BCF506543BBD62D5DC986" --------------230BCF506543BBD62D5DC986 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Randy..

Randal Whittle wrote:

At 12:59 AM 2/12/99 -0500, you wrote:

>It always perplexes me that IBM shoots themselves in the foot..

>a few years ago, if you sent a TP in for warranty repair, they would fix
>whatever
>was wrong, then replace any cracked parts, lost parts, trackpoint tips,
>logos and
>the like..
>no sweat, no argument, just a happy customer.. a happy customer is always
>worth a
>bit of expense..

        You didn't quite go all the way in this description Bill...
 

HUH..!!?Are you telling me that i lack the requisite verbosity..??  :-)
 

        What you should have pointed out more clearly is the following fact:  in
the "good 'ol days", EZServe not only promptly fixed anything you
complained about, but they went through the machine, found anything *else*
that wasn't perfectly "right", and fixed that too!  The resulting machine
was *literally* as good as new.

        Sadly, I think some people took undue advantage of that, which is probably
why we're in the state of affairs we are now.
 

i think the culture has changed..(not to mention the sale of easy serve)
the customer may now be considered a fool, an adversar or a profit center...

sort of like the telephone company and 411 information..

when it was free, they would send anyone any telephone book, free..
they ran ads talking about the $55M phone call..
now that 411 information is now a profit center, a phone book for the next county costs $30 and there are NO ads saying use the phone book rather than dialing 411

- Randy Whittle

 

--
Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
WEB page http://thinkpads.com
Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html
bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net
770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al...

Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a
closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home..
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wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA446788; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:49:11 -0500 Message-ID: <36C51256.D4C5E33B@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:49:10 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: djmusic@inreach.com CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: Need help with hardrive References: <199902121610.IAA15959@mail.inreach.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: 1. does the drive work with DOS and win95A..? 2. is your BIOS up to date..?? 3. Do you live near stockton, california..?? Jerry & Janice Ray wrote: > Hello everyone on list, I am in need of some help trying to get a 2.1 > hardrive working in my tp 755cd thinkpad.Just after i try to load windows > 95 B it says I have error( SU-0013 )setup could not create files on your > startup drive and cannot setup Windows.I have fdisked & formated. Any help > Please Thanks. > Jerry djmusic@inreach.com -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 13 01:06:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA14102 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:06:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20446; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:05:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:04:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20336; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:04:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20321; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:04:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-254.gate.net [207.36.212.254]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA333044; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:04:33 -0500 Message-ID: <36C515F0.11003A8D@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:04:32 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graham CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Introducing me and my dinosaur (TP365CSD) References: <002701be56b8$9c345880$43d71ece@homepc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bob.. I have a source of the raw 12x CD as used in thinkpads, tecras, microns and so forth.. this is a raw CD and would need to be mounted in the brackets currently occupied by your recently deceased CD... $40 + shipping and if it does not work (since you will be somewhat of a guine pig) send it back and if it does work, send the $40.. Graham wrote: > Hello: > > I have just signed onto the Thinkpad list and wanted to introduce myself. I > am a former programmer/analyst turned sociology professor. I currently > teach at Lee University in Tennessee. > > I have a lovely, but ailing Thinkpad 365CSD that has (until recently) been > extremely reliable and well mannered. It has a 486 75Mhz processor with a > 540MB hard drive, 24 MB of ram, an external floppy, and an internal 2x > CD-ROM drive (TEAC CD-40E). > > The CD-ROM bit the dust just after I had removed most of my applications in > preparation for upgrading to Windows 98. I have checked all of the > troubleshooting tips at IBM and a few others. The trouble is almost > certainly hardware. > > I cannot get any answer from IBM about the compatibility of other CD drives > with this system. In their options page, they suggest external drives only. > Perhaps they can't imagine one this old still being in service. > > Does anyone know if the TEAC CD-46E drives (or any others for that matter) > will work in this model? Any recommendations will be appreciated. > > Many thanks, > Bob Graham -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 13 01:07:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA14114 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:07:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19965; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:58:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19824; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:58:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19811; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:58:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-254.gate.net [207.36.212.254]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA35818; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:58:20 -0500 Message-ID: <36C5147C.5D40381@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:58:20 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randal Whittle CC: TP List Subject: Re: TP back from EZServe... References: <4.1.19990212150054.00aeeb60@rcf.usc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Randy.. now post a copy of this on my open forum.. :-) ok..?? Randal Whittle wrote: > Well, the ordeal seems to be over. My TP 600 is back in my hands and all > appears to be well. A few final thoughts: > > Despite the initial kick-in-the-butt this all was, I did manage to get the > following: > > - Sent on Monday, received back on Friday. Not quite the Wed. return I > had expected, but still pretty darn good. I managed to survive and will > have my machine available for use in upcoming work. > > - Fit & Finish: Like new. Frankly, I'm astounded. The front > palmrest/bezel *and* the keyboard is *new*. I feel like I'm typing on a > new machine again. They even put a new Trackpoint cap on it! In fact, > because they replaced the TFT screen, I not only no longer have a glaring > bad pixel in the middle of the screen, I also seem to have a new "lid". As > a matter of fact, that only exterior item I can obviously determine is my > original machine is the underlying plastic/composite base, where I > recognize some minor scratches. > > In some sense, its almost as if the only original parts of my machine is > the motherboard/CPU, base, ports, and battery. Even the HD was replaced > due to bad sectors popping up. > > Really, its like a new machine. I know I had my problems getting the > issues resolved, but the point is--they were. I have to give them credit > for that. > > - Randy Whittle -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 13 01:09:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA14126 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:09:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20812; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:08:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:07:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20693; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:07:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20666; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:07:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-254.gate.net [207.36.212.254]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA48046; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:07:49 -0500 Message-ID: <36C516B4.79B6AEDA@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:07:49 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Button CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: (770X) Any bad side-effects of converting C: to FAT32? References: <36C45087.D2715B7E@insight-tech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I should have read the entire post before responding.. so, i retract the "convert the whole HDD to one big partition" :-) Brian Button wrote: > I'd love to free up some room on my C: drive, as it came from the > factory almost 3/4 full. If I convert to FAT32, I can reduce my cluster > size and regain a bunch of space on this drive. I did see a couple of > downsides to this on the IBM website, involving some of the recovery CDs > being unable to work with a FAT32 partition for C:. > > Has anyone done this conversion? How well did it work out for you? > > BTW - an introduction. I'm a long-time software developer, so I was > looking for the best software development platform I could find that > would both replace my desktop and function very well on the road. I > ended up buying the 770X 7AU model (128Meg, 8Gig, Win98, DVD) as the > best mix of those features, plus the ability to play some games and > movies on those long trips :) So far, I'm very happy with my choice. The > 1280x1024 resolution gives an incredible image, the battery life seems > to be around 3 hours (I've just installed Rain, and I'll see if that > helps that a bunch). I am going to resize the D: partition a bit and > install RH5.2 (or 6.0) Linux within the next month. We'll see how that > goes... > > bab > -- > Brian Button bbutton@insight-tech.com > Senior Consultant Insight Technology Group, Inc. > Product Reviews Editor C++ Report Magazine -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 13 01:20:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA14192 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:20:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21253; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:12:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21146; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:12:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21130; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:12:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-254.gate.net [207.36.212.254]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA317146; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:12:16 -0500 Message-ID: <36C517BF.3FE952E3@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:12:15 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Error 174 with new hard drive. References: <199902121141.GAA11284@camel14.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul.. the old 1.2gig as supplied in the 760CD, et al is the OLD system.. so the 2.1gig won't work in the IBM HDD shell as supplied with the 1.2gig drive.. Paul Khoury wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:30:16 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: > > >David.. > >the thing is: > >1. i hate to do tech support for the competition.. :-) > > Could I blame you? Usually an issue where I work (OfficeMax). > > >BUT > >2. the drive select was changed from the time of your original HDD.. reversed, in fact.. > >3. depending on the HDD shell you're using, it is most likely telling the machine that the drive is a > >slave, thus the machine does not see the drive and you get the 174 error.. > > Yeah, this sounds about right. > > >SOLUTION.. > >4. Surgery, on the cable/plug assy or the HDD itself (not a good idea) > > But it works. You just have to use LOTS of caution. The way the > connector on the 350/360/75x series drives us almost like a cable > select, but it somehow shorts out the first 2 pins, making the drive master. > On the newer drives, it makes it slave. The only way to fix it is to CUT > OFF the pins on the HD. Now the side effect is that if you ever use it on > a desktop, you won't be able to use it as a slave drive. > > >5. New HDD shell.. :-) (this is where i get paid, heheheh) > > > >that 3.2gig drive is a good one.. and it'll work (if it works at all).. > >i've had them in so many machines..!! > > > Oh yeah, anything over 1GB is good. I'm actually thinking whether or not I'll > swap the 2.1GB drive in my 750 with the 1.2GB that's in the 760CD I'm getting tomo, err, > today (in the next 6 or so hours, since I'm writing this at almost 4am!). > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! > Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 > ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 13 01:43:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA14374 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23086; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:41:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:40:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22974; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:40:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from benjamin.lisco.com (root@ns4.lisco.com [206.26.90.48]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22961; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:40:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from edson.lisco.com (fairfield-112.lisco.com [206.26.90.182]) by benjamin.lisco.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id AAA03861 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:40:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <018e01be571b$9f6e6be0$865a1ace@edson.lisco.com> Reply-To: "D. Edson" From: "D. Edson" To: Subject: USB Joystick and W95 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:39:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I wanted to get a MS USB Precision Pro Joystick for my 770ED TP, and I noticed that on the box it says win98 - does anyone know if the USB stick would work on the 770ED with Win95? Thanks in advance! David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 13 02:17:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA14742 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 02:17:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18610; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:44:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:43:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18484; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:43:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18470; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:42:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-254.gate.net [207.36.212.254]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA88016; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:42:53 -0500 Message-ID: <36C510DC.E18CCCC7@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:42:52 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randal Whittle CC: John Kim , TP List Subject: Re: More on EZServe (Good!) References: <4.1.19990211205527.00af69a0@rcf.usc.edu> <4.1.19990212081201.00b97a10@rcf.usc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: In ALL the machines that i have sent in to easy serve for display replacement, i have never gotten one with any bad pixels... Randal Whittle wrote: > At 08:31 AM 2/12/99 -0500, you wrote: > >On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Randal Whittle wrote: > > > >> holds the TFT. Having broken it (though it could be fixed in refurb), that > >> meant he had to replace the TFT. As he said, good news for me, bad news > >> for IBM. ;-) > >> > >> What can I say? I'm not one to look a gift horse in the mouth. In my > >> view, its some sort of karmic payback for all the trouble I went through > >> trying to get these people to address the problems I had already detailed > > > >$10 says the new TFT has > 1 bad pixel. :-) > > Leave it up to you John, to be the resident optimist. ;-) > > Actually, when I Paul called me about it, I asked him specifically for one > thing: That the TFT he put in be in perfect condition--no bad pixels. He > turned it on, ran a full-screen color test, looked for bad pixels, and told > me there were none. > > I haven't gotten the machine back just yet, but I'm willing to believe he > wouldn't lie to me. I'll certainly let you all know if he did, but for > now, let's assume I'm ahead of the game. :-) (And I'm quittin' while I'm > ahead!) > > Oddly enough, I had seen the bad sectors on the HD coming a couple of > months ago and bought a new (bigger--6.4 GB) HD from Bill Morrow. I > figured when I had a lull in my work needs for the laptop (which I recently > did), I'd send it in with all the other problems to be fixed. > > So now I'll get my original 3 GB HD back and I intend to use that with the > inexpensive Ultraslim Bay HD adapter I just got, for when I need that extra > space. Might offload some video editing/compiling onto the TP--have both > machines (my desktop being the other) running overnight to compile vids 2x > as fast. > > - Randy Whittle -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 13 13:55:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA19301 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:55:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23418; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:53:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:51:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23238; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23225; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:51:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from holygrail (mg131-221.ricochet.net [204.179.131.221]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA03205; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:51:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <00a701be5781$d909d310$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "D. Edson" , Subject: Re: USB Joystick and W95 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:51:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Pretty unlikely. Everywhere I read before I bought my own Precision Pro said that the Win 95 USB add-on was VERY basic. Win98 is the best bet. See the public newsgroup microsoft.public.mshardware.product at the msnews.microsoft.com public NNTP server or look on Deja News. David -----Original Message----- From: D. Edson To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 10:41 PM Subject: USB Joystick and W95 >I wanted to get a MS USB Precision Pro Joystick for my 770ED TP, and I >noticed that on the box it says win98 - does anyone know if the USB stick >would work on the 770ED with Win95? > >Thanks in advance! > > David > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 13 16:11:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA20286 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27670; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:10:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:08:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27515; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:08:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27501; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.15.97]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990213210748.IBXG18723@770> for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:07:48 +0000 Message-ID: <36C5E989.2727@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:07:21 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: FS: Floppy drives for 75x/76x References: <199902121141.GAA11284@camel14.mindspring.com> <36C517BF.3FE952E3@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have available a small quantity of original IBM floppy drives for the 75X/760/765 series. These are all tested and working. $50.00 plus $5.00 priority mail Thanks! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 13 20:48:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA22999 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:48:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04415; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:46:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:45:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04281; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:45:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from astor.interport.net (astor.interport.net [199.184.165.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04252; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:45:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pritzr (arcts2p246.port.net [207.237.111.246]) by astor.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA08591 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:46:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990213204225.009b8b80@pop.interport.net> X-Sender: rpritz@pop.interport.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:45:51 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: richard Subject: any new 560 rumors? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Anyone know of any rumors for a 560 with a 13" screen? I'd like to replace my aging 560 with something faster and a bigger screen. The new Toshiba Portege 7020ct has very appealing specs, and I wonder if IBM (or anyone else) has anything competitive: 13" 1024x768 screen, 366mhz PII, 64mb, 6gb, $3,500. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 13 20:48:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA23009 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:48:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04644; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:47:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:47:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04515; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:47:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from astor.interport.net (astor.interport.net [199.184.165.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04467; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:47:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from pritzr (arcts2p246.port.net [207.237.111.246]) by astor.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA08775 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:48:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990213204640.009c1d20@pop.interport.net> X-Sender: rpritz@pop.interport.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:47:40 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: richard Subject: any rumors, part 2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: oops, I forgot to mention that the Toshiba 7020ct weighs the same 4 lbs as the 560. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 13 21:49:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA23692 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:49:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06018; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:48:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:47:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05935; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:47:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.enteract.com (thor.enteract.com [207.229.143.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05914; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:47:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1503 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 02:47:02 -0000 Received: from max4k-2-9.chi-tcg.enteract.com (207.229.150.9) by thor.enteract.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 02:47:02 -0000 From: mocek@enteract.com (Stan Mocek) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: any new 560 rumors? Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:47:35 -0600 Reply-To: mocek@enteract.com Message-ID: <36c8363d.30053978@smtp.enteract.com> References: <4.1.19990213204225.009b8b80@pop.interport.net> In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990213204225.009b8b80@pop.interport.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:45:51 -0500, richard wrote: >Anyone know of any rumors for a 560 with a 13" screen? > >I'd like to replace my aging 560 with something faster and a bigger screen. >The new Toshiba Portege 7020ct has very appealing specs, and I wonder if >IBM (or anyone else) has anything competitive: 13" 1024x768 screen, 366mhz >PII, 64mb, 6gb, $3,500. I'm sure that someone more connected than me can chime in, but CDW has the 2640B0U model 560Z, which is 12.1 TFT, 800X600, 300mhz PII, 64mb and 6.4GB HD for just a shade over $2,400. Now, I realize that it ain't the top 'o the line 366 PII and it's only SVGA, but $ for $, I think it compares well, plus it's a ThinkPad. -- Stan Mocek mocek@enteract.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 13 22:00:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA23807 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:00:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06595; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:59:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:58:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06509; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:58:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from astor.interport.net (astor.interport.net [199.184.165.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06496; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:58:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from pritzr (arcts2p246.port.net [207.237.111.246]) by astor.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA17318; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:00:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990213215339.0091db00@pop.interport.net> X-Sender: rpritz@pop.interport.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:59:27 -0500 To: mocek@enteract.com From: richard Subject: Re: any new 560 rumors? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <36c8363d.30053978@smtp.enteract.com> References: <4.1.19990213204225.009b8b80@pop.interport.net> <4.1.19990213204225.009b8b80@pop.interport.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:47 PM 2/13/99 -0600, you wrote: >On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:45:51 -0500, richard wrote: > >>Anyone know of any rumors for a 560 with a 13" screen? >> >>I'd like to replace my aging 560 with something faster and a bigger screen. >>The new Toshiba Portege 7020ct has very appealing specs, and I wonder if >>IBM (or anyone else) has anything competitive: 13" 1024x768 screen, 366mhz >>PII, 64mb, 6gb, $3,500. 4 lb. > >I'm sure that someone more connected than me can chime in, but CDW has >the 2640B0U model 560Z, which is 12.1 TFT, 800X600, 300mhz PII, 64mb and >6.4GB HD for just a shade over $2,400. Now, I realize that it ain't the >top 'o the line 366 PII and it's only SVGA, but $ for $, I think it >compares well, plus it's a ThinkPad. I can certainly live with a 300mhz P II (I doubt I'd notice the difference in speed between a 300 and 366). However, I'd really like something better than 12" 800x600. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 13 22:14:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA23943 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:14:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07161; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:13:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:13:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07065; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.enteract.com (thor.enteract.com [207.229.143.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07047; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:12:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7162 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 03:12:50 -0000 Received: from max4k-2-9.chi-tcg.enteract.com (207.229.150.9) by thor.enteract.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 03:12:50 -0000 From: mocek@enteract.com (Stan Mocek) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: any new 560 rumors? Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:13:26 -0600 Reply-To: mocek@enteract.com Message-ID: <36cb3e47.32111770@smtp.enteract.com> References: <4.1.19990213204225.009b8b80@pop.interport.net> <4.1.19990213204225.009b8b80@pop.interport.net> <4.1.19990213215339.0091db00@pop.interport.net> In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990213215339.0091db00@pop.interport.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:59:27 -0500, richard wrote: >At 08:47 PM 2/13/99 -0600, you wrote: >>I'm sure that someone more connected than me can chime in, but CDW has >>the 2640B0U model 560Z, which is 12.1 TFT, 800X600, 300mhz PII, 64mb and >>6.4GB HD for just a shade over $2,400. Now, I realize that it ain't the >>top 'o the line 366 PII and it's only SVGA, but $ for $, I think it >>compares well, plus it's a ThinkPad. > >I can certainly live with a 300mhz P II (I doubt I'd notice the difference >in speed between a 300 and 366). However, I'd really like something better >than 12" 800x600. Well there's always the 26454AU model 600E, which is about a pound and a half heavier and about $400 to $500 more than the 7020ct. It does have a 24x CD-ROM included. Spec-wise, it matches up with the 7020ct. I would like to see IBM bring out a 13.3" screen 560 though, maybe a 560Z+. I don't think it's likely, though. -- Stan Mocek mocek@enteract.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 00:21:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA24990 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:21:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10636; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:20:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:18:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10447; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:18:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10434; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:18:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust148.tnt7.sfo3.da.uu.net [153.37.20.148]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA09767 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:18:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36C65CA6.E5D1513B@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:18:32 -0800 From: Ben Shemuel Reply-To: benshem@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: "Customizing" a 760ELD display Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Greetings, all. I'm attempting to fit out my friend Nancy, an epileptic, non-speaking, environmentally sensitive (she can't go outdoors) person, with a computer she can email and websurf with. She can't use a CRT display because of the gases emitted by the plastic chassis when the monitor heats up. A highly-placed friend at a local high tech company donated a 760ELD in fine condition for her. I thought all I would have to do was teach her how to use Win95 and the various client applications and the internet would be her oyster. It hasn't been quite that easy. The Thinkpad gave her a splitting headache within 20 minutes of turning it on, we think because of the refresh flicker of the fluorescent backlight. I used the display control panel to turn everything except text, highlighted items, and window borders and title bars black, to minimize the amount of the backlight light coming through. I also enlarged the fonts a bit-her eyes aren't that great, either. I also showed her how to tilt the screen to the right angle to darken the background as much as possible. It still gives her the headaches. My first inclination was to remove the backlight from the display, cut a hole in the back of the lid, and backlight the LCD with a lightbox containing an ordinary lightbulb. I would also like to find out if I can increase the refresh frequency of the backlight to put it above the irritation range. I've posted these ideas to a few groups and gotten some good, less drastic suggestions. One was to give up on the built-in display and make a lightbox to use an overhead projector-type LCD panel. Do any of you have one of these sitting around unused, which you could bear to part with? Another was to use a display which uses ambient light rather than a backlight. Do any of you have suggestions or leads on this approach? Finally, one person suggested dumping the Thinkpad approach and just outfitting her with an older, non-backlit, laptop computer. Again, if any of you have one of these you could donate to the cause, you would be helping someone in a very profound way. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. If you think I've cooked this all up as a way of getting someone to give me obsolete computing equipment, please email me and let me convince you otherwise. Ben Shemuel From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 00:39:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA25139 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:39:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11511; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:38:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:38:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11426; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11413; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:38:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldh5g.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.196.176]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA15797; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:38:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902140538.AAA15797@camel14.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "mocek@enteract.com" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 13 Feb 99 21:38:00 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: any new 560 rumors? List-Unsubscribe: >Well there's always the 26454AU model 600E, which is about a pound and a >half heavier and about $400 to $500 more than the 7020ct. It does have a >24x CD-ROM included. Spec-wise, it matches up with the 7020ct. I would >like to see IBM bring out a 13.3" screen 560 though, maybe a 560Z+. I >don't think it's likely, though. I do know that IBM said they're comming out with the 770Z model, which has a 15" LCD, and supposedly a 14.1GB HD, Back to this subject, is the 390 the machine that sorta replaces the 560? Also, is it just me, or has anyone noticed that a lot of the ThinkPads' model numbers mimick those of IBM's mainframes, like 701, 360, 390, 380, 370, etc...? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 00:43:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA25172 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:43:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11878; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:42:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:41:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11755; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11742; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:41:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldh5g.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.196.176]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA12820; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:41:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902140541.AAA12820@camel14.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "richard" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 13 Feb 99 21:41:43 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: any rumors, part 2 List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:47:40 -0500, richard wrote: >oops, I forgot to mention that the Toshiba 7020ct weighs the same 4 lbs as >the 560. > > That's not the ultrathin model, is it? Does or will IBM have any ThinkPad that compete's with Sony's ultraslim VAIO, the Mitsubishi Pedion, or the similiar machine from Toshiba? We have the Pedion at work, and it's really tiny, and the LCD is nice (Active Matrix), but the keyboard is mushy (a quiet/soft touch membrane keypad), and it only comes with Windows 95. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 00:44:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA25183 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:44:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12121; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:43:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:43:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11973; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:43:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11959; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:43:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldh5g.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.196.176]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA29832; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:43:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902140543.AAA29832@camel14.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Paul Rubin" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 13 Feb 99 21:43:00 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 770Z?! List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 03:09:22 -0800 (PST), Paul Rubin wrote: >Any idea what this is? I just saw it mentioned on comp.sys.laptops. >Apparently it was announced a couple weeks ago but isn't available yet. >IBM's web site is not responding... According to someone at the HelpCenter, it supposedly has a 14 or 15" LCD, and a 14GB HD. Will probably be a PII-350 or higher with 128MB of RAM and DVD if it's going to be that good. I only remember him saying the top two. Originally, the 770 was sort of my dream machine, but the 760 is good enough. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 00:50:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA25228 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:50:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12611; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:49:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:48:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12486; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:48:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12473; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:48:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldh5g.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.196.176]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA29983; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:48:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902140548.AAA29983@camel14.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Slip" , "Sven Utcke" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 13 Feb 99 21:48:29 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701C: Battery doesn't charge? List-Unsubscribe: >Nope. Three equally long (or rather short) beeps. Well, it's >actually more like > >knack beep beep beep :-) > Which means that the battery doesn't have enough charge to power up the computer. >> You'll get this when you'r battery is run completly >> down and your trying to run off it. The reason I think this is the problem >> is because you said that you only get beeps with the battery >> installed > >Correct. > >> Let's start with the AC adapter first-it should be from 15.5-17Vdc. > >16.8V > Sounds right. I think it's supposed to put out 16V if I'm correct. >> As for the battery, here's what voltages you should have: >> (looking at the terminal-end of the battery with the rounded side to the >> right) >> pin1(far left) - 11.0(nominal) (range from 10 - 16) > >12.55 after charging. > Hmmm... >> >The strange thing is that by now I can not boot at all anymore, not >> >even with a fully charged battery. >> >> Well you'v either got a defective battery or possibly a charger. > >I charged the battery with an external charger. The battery is both >good (1.7Ah, which should be good enough) as well as charged. > If it warranty is out, you could try and open the battery up. You should find 6 larger-than-AA-size cells. In the battery I opened up, they were green cells, with a transistor on the bottom towards the terminals. You might be able to find someone who sells replacement batteries, and use those. >> (not very likely it's both). If you know anyone with a 701, have him >> check out your battery. > >Unfortunately I don't. > >> If you'd be up to it, you could ship me your battery and I'd check >> it out for you.(on a working 701). > >Well, I'm sitting in Germany, so this might not be a good idea. But >thanks for the offer! > Have you tried the 701 battery reset program? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 00:52:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA25246 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:52:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12915; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:50:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:49:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12693; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:49:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12669; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldh5g.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.196.176]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA13275 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:49:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902140549.AAA13275@camel14.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 13 Feb 99 21:49:42 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Battery reset program List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone know if the program to reset the percentage for the battery will work on a 560? One of the guys in the furniture dept. at work has a 560 from the company, but the battery won't charge, and corporate gave him a hard time about getting a new battery out (says they're backordered). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 00:55:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA25271 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:55:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13252; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:54:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:53:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13128; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:53:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13115; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:53:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.31.184]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990214055259.DEFZ29880@dts-jl> for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 05:52:59 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990214005205.00ab7550@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:52:05 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: any new 560 rumors? In-Reply-To: <199902140538.AAA15797@camel14.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:38 PM 2/13/99 -0800, Paul Khoury wrote: >Back to this subject, is the 390 the machine that sorta replaces the 560? > No, it overlaps and replaces the 380. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 01:57:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA25778 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17009; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:56:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:55:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16902; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:55:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16889; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:55:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from bp ([12.77.217.214]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990214065508.DKWS29880@bp>; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 06:55:08 +0000 Message-ID: <36C6734C.4FE1@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:55:08 -0500 From: BirgerPetterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: benshem@earthlink.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: "Customizing" a 760ELD display References: <36C65CA6.E5D1513B@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ben Shemuel wrote: <<<>> You may need to build a box with a glass window and a exhaust fan to the exterior of the House. Possibly with a slot for the hands to work the keyboard or use an external keyboard with only a slot for turning the ThinkPad on or off. The 760 machine tends to run rather warm and may be emitting gases. Have Nancy where a surgical mask when using the computer. I can fully understand Nancy's situation as I have seen quite a few people that very sensitive to the environment. Birger Petterson From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 02:08:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA26023 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:08:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17496; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:07:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:07:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17410; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:07:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer.cia-g.com (root@mailer.cia-g.com [207.66.82.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17389; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:07:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from cia-g.com (gup-092-dpm2.cia-g.com [207.66.82.172]) by mailer.cia-g.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18944; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:07:05 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36C6764E.7BC038EF@cia-g.com> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:07:58 -0700 From: Ray Bay Reply-To: raybay@cia-g.com Organization: Picture Rock Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: richard , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: any rumors, part 2 References: <199902140541.AAA12820@camel14.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I owned the Sony for a short period of time... got rid of it like a hot rock... awful computer compared to my Thinkpads. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 02:10:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA26040 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17757; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:10:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:09:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17670; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:09:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer.cia-g.com (root@mailer.cia-g.com [207.66.82.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17656; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from cia-g.com (gup-092-dpm2.cia-g.com [207.66.82.172]) by mailer.cia-g.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA24624; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:09:30 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36C676DF.D1C785E5@cia-g.com> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:10:23 -0700 From: Ray Bay Reply-To: raybay@cia-g.com Organization: Picture Rock Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: richard CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: any new 560 rumors? References: <4.1.19990213204225.009b8b80@pop.interport.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: My ex has that Toshiba... not a bad machine, but the support is really terrible compared to IBM... and it gets worse as they age... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 02:51:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA26332 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:51:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18707; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:50:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:49:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18609; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:49:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.enteract.com (thor.enteract.com [207.229.143.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18596; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:49:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2103 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 07:49:46 -0000 Received: from usrx2-2-129.chi-focal.enteract.com (207.229.142.163) by thor.enteract.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 07:49:46 -0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: any rumors, part 2 Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 07:50:39 GMT Message-ID: <36c77ebe.1291489@smtp.enteract.com> References: <199902140541.AAA12820@camel14.mindspring.com> <36C6764E.7BC038EF@cia-g.com> In-Reply-To: <36C6764E.7BC038EF@cia-g.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:07:58 -0700, you wrote: >I owned the Sony for a short period of time... got rid of >it like a hot rock... awful computer compared to my >Thinkpads. Yeah? Much as I like my IBM 560, I'v got to say I'm sold on the Sony 505's weight and feature set. I'd love it if IBM released a model just like it, only in black - the lack of purple and improved support would make the system perfect, imo. Well, maybe a design change to the extended battery as well - it's got a hinge in it that keeps wearing out quickly. A less-complicated one like the Sony has would be nice. epbrown Portable Computing FAQ - http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown Sony VAIO 505 info - http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown/sony505.html epbrown@enteract.com - AIM:epbrown01 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 03:48:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA26957 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:48:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA24893; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:47:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:46:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA24781; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:46:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA24757; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:46:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldh5g.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.196.176]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA01552; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:46:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902140846.DAA01552@camel14.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "raybay@cia-g.com" Date: Sun, 14 Feb 99 00:46:19 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Mini-notebooks List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:07:58 -0700, Ray Bay wrote: >I owned the Sony for a short period of time... got rid of >it like a hot rock... awful computer compared to my >Thinkpads. Was it the small one? I heard that the system boards on those tend to overheat, and the baord has the then be replaced. This happened to one of my uncle's best friends. However, my uncle has the regular sized VAIO and he likes it. And the specs are fairly similiar to my 760ED, except he has a faster CPU, and I have more RAM. -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 05:46:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA27632 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 05:46:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06473; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 05:46:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 05:45:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06348; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 05:45:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06334; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 05:45:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from [194.222.39.203] (helo=ddwyer.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10Bz2k-00036t-00; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 10:44:58 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 10:31:01 +0000 To: Paul Khoury Cc: Slip , Sven Utcke , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" From: douglas dwyer Subject: Re: 701C: Battery doesn't charge? In-Reply-To: <199902140548.AAA29983@camel14.mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a List-Unsubscribe: In message <199902140548.AAA29983@camel14.mindspring.com>, Paul Khoury writes > >>Nope. Three equally long (or rather short) beeps. Well, it's >>actually more like >> >>knack beep beep beep :-) >> Im an electronics engineer with a 750c I was given as it did not work the battery and software were suspect. Ive installed W95 and the 750 works OK but the battery does not charge. I opened it up and drew up the circuit, It has two sets of AA NIH in parallel I can charge them externally but this only runs the lap top for a short while as the internal resistance of some of the batteries is high and on load they drop to 0.9V (fully charged they should only drop to 1.25 or so) Replacement batteries in the UK are 3.20$ each (X16) this compares with abould 230$ IBM list. I still need to know what software to install to get the auto charge circuits and battery monitor working. Doug From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 05:54:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA27666 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 05:54:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06864; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 05:53:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 05:53:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06706; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 05:53:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.1.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06687; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 05:53:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.2.12]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14322 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:53:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 14 Feb 99 11:53:06 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.44); 14 Feb 99 11:52:49 +0200 Received: from mail.stelarcom.de (132.187.248.83) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 14 Feb 99 11:52:47 +0200 Received: from voyager.stelarcom.de (voyager.stelarcom.de [192.168.0.10] ) by mail.stelarcom.de (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:55:00 -0100 Message-Id: <199902141155.0034216.7@mail.stelarcom.de> From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:54:51 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Alexander Wagner" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problem: Hibernationfile - still exists List-Unsubscribe: Hi again! Ok, as you suggested I tried: - Remove memory. That is I removed the * 64MB non IBM -> no effect * additionally the 16MB original IBM -> no effect * swaped the 16MB to the other bank -> no effect - I tried the script mentioned. I had to change some settings as far as I understood the script. So here the hibernationfile is called PM_HIBERN.BIN which I changed. I also removed the memorysection in the top. The script generated a large file with the correct names. (There're some small errors in the script e. g. when it tries to set the attributes for the file.) Again that didn't had the effect. BTW: Should/must I recall PS2 HFILE G again after creating the file? So as a conclusion I'm still where I was. Any further suggestions? Probably I should say that it once worked very reliable. But then I played arround here installing some software and unfortunately deleted the partition where the hibernationfile resided. May be that caused this strange effect? And if how could I resolve it? BTW: Here's the final hdd-info from fdisk /query drive Name Partition Ptyp FStyp Status Start Size 1 0000003f : 1 0a 2 0 3 1 OpenDOS C: 1 06 1 3 51 1 OS/2 D: 2 07 1 55 252 1 0009993f E: 2 07 0 307 1303 1 003253bf F: 2 07 0 1610 693 1 Linux : 2 83 1 2303 452 1 0056223f : 2 82 0 2756 23 1 0056df3f G: 2 06 0 2779 153 Great thanks for any hints in advance! -- CU/2 (( Proud to be member of Team OS/2 Europe #294 Alexander Wagner )) RTV Franken Team OS/2 Franken (( Request PGP-key Subject: Request for PGP-Keys --------------------------------------------------------------------------- You may also reply to Alexander.Wagner@gmx.de or Alexander.Wagner@gmx.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 08:21:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA28511 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 08:21:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10047; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 08:20:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 08:20:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09923; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 08:19:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer.cia-g.com (root@mailer.cia-g.com [207.66.82.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09910; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 08:19:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from cia-g.com (gup-112-dpm3.cia-g.com [207.66.82.235]) by mailer.cia-g.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14446; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 06:19:50 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36C6CDAD.AFB9A9@cia-g.com> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 06:20:45 -0700 From: Ray Bay Reply-To: raybay@cia-g.com Organization: Picture Rock Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Mini-notebooks References: <199902140846.DAA01552@camel14.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Too much proprietary gimmicky stuff loaded on it that you couldn't get rid of... their install disks were image files that had lots of useless junk... Then I had so many problems with it that I was always on the phone with support... they would not keep a list of problems, so when you called about a problem, they would have you spend two to four hours on line checking out things you had already verified worked before you could get to the problem area. I have owned a great number of computers, both laptop and desktop, but have seen none to equal the aggravation of Sony... and most of it comes from Sony attempts to be unique or special... And repairs outside of warrantee have got to be the highest in the country... $850 for a mother board... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 09:39:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA29043 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 09:39:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12136; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 09:39:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 09:38:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12000; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 09:38:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11986; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 09:38:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial14.vramp.net (dial14.vramp.net [209.107.20.29]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA12534; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 09:38:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902141438.JAA12534@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: Ray Bay , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 09:31:25 -0500 Subject: Re: any rumors, part 2 Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <36C6764E.7BC038EF@cia-g.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 14 Feb 99, at 0:07, Ray Bay wrote: > I owned the Sony for a short period of time... got rid of > it like a hot rock... awful computer compared to my > Thinkpads. There has to be an inherent flaw in a computer that cost almost as much to name as to develop and yet no one can pronounce it! Regards, James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. CaptJHEM@waterw.com Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 11:27:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA00106 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:27:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26759; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:27:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:26:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26595; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:26:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from home2.netland.nl (IDENT:root@mx1.netland.nl [193.67.32.55]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26582; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:25:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from gateway.office.netlinq.nl (root@[195.108.57.218]) by home2.netland.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA31704 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:24:12 +0100 Received: from netlinq.nl ([192.168.0.81]) by gateway.office.netlinq.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA16445 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:26:37 +0100 Message-ID: <36C6F933.DAB642D9@netlinq.nl> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:26:27 +0100 From: Jeroen Elfferich Reply-To: jeroen@netlinq.nl Organization: http://www.netlinq.nl/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: [770X] Dual Display Function? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I've got a 770X with the 13.7" screen and Windows 98. One of the more promising features of this machine is its ability to display different output on the LCD and external CRT. I've got things working as described in the manual (p. 73). I've got the LCD running 1280*1024 with 64K colours; the CRT is displaying separate content at 800*600 with 64K colours as well. Now, when I view the Settings of the Display Properties, it shows two displays. When I run the 'Identify' option on display #1, marked 'Laptop Display Panel 1280*1024 on IBM Thinkpad....' it shows a large '1' on the CRT, while as I perform the same action on display #2, marked 'Unknown moni- tor on IBM Thinkpad....' it shows a large '2' on the LCD! Of course, one would expect this to be the other way round. Is this a known bug? My 770X has got 8 Mb of VideoRAM, yet a combination of 1280*1024 (LCD) and 800*600 (CRT) is the maximum possible. Trying to get the CRT at 1024 reduces color depth to 8bpp (256 colors). Right now, I'm wondering why there's 8 Mb in this machine? 1280*1024*16bpp + 800*600*16bpp = 3,5 Mb, which is possible, while 1280*1024*16bpp + 1024*768*16bpp would require 4,2 Mb, which is not working, let alone even higher resolutions or bpp on the CRT. All this should be easily possible with 8 Mb. To me it seems that there's no advantage at all with the 8 Mb vs. 4 Mb on the 770ED, or am I mistaken? Could this be improved with a driver update? Another, more annoying, thing is the fact that every appli- cation I run pops up on the CRT display and then I have to drag it manually to the LCD. I understand that the CRT is the primary display (it says so in the manual), but does this mean every program that is started automatically opens on the CRT? I did move the windows task bar (with the Start button) to the LCD and all the icons (my computer etc.), but every- thing still starts on the external CRT. Since I just love the LCD, I would be glad to learn a way to use this as the default location for apps and using the CRT as some extra screen real estate for telnet, winamp etc. etc. Regards, Jeroen Elfferich From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 11:30:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA00130 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:30:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27275; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:29:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:28:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27107; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:28:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from astor.interport.net (astor.interport.net [199.184.165.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27093; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:28:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from pritzr (arcts1p150.port.net [207.237.110.150]) by astor.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA29822 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:15:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990214105851.009b44a0@pop.interport.net> X-Sender: rpritz@pop.interport.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:14:28 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: richard Subject: tp 600 ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: A few questions regarding the TP 600. Given the number of people who recommended considering this machine, I'm giving it another look. 1) What much does it weigh without cd-rom or floppy? What does that AC adaptor weigh? What do the cd-rom or floppy weigh? 2) How well does the internal modem work? Any worse than a PC Card modem? 3) What's a 300 PE Mhz chip? See http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/$wwwovseriesb/1F91E08B62575EAD8525670 20003E430 4) What's the difference between the new ?AU models and the older ?5U models? 5) My perception is that Win98 is slower and less stable than Win95, probably because of Internet Explorer. Is this true? The new machines all come with Win98 (or NT). Would it be better to switch to Win95? 6) Is the announced 3 hour battery life accurate? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 12:31:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA00801 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:31:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00523; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:31:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:30:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00392; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:30:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iex.net (mail.iex.net [192.156.196.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00340; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:30:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from scansrv (r7a006661ax.hlb.cable.rcn.com [209.122.66.230]) by mail.iex.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA10742 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 10:24:46 -0700 (MST) Received: by scansrv (VPOP3) with SMTP; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:30:03 -0500 Message-ID: <01d201be583f$a7b39260$0100a8c0@desktop> From: "Robert Briganti" To: Subject: Multiread CDROM Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:30:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0d - Registered to: LOMAX [DSI] List-Unsubscribe: I have a ThinkPad 765L and need to know if there is an internal CD-ROM available for it that is multiread, i.e. able to read CDRW in UDF format with the appropriate reader software. If not, are the CD-ROMs for the 770s multiread? Thanks. Bob From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 15:08:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA02341 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:08:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05213; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:05:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05029; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05000; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:05:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (txmia1-12.gate.net [207.234.163.12]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA94324; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:05:12 -0500 Message-ID: <36C72C76.C80EA9C@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:05:10 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: Paul Rubin , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: 770Z?! References: <199902140543.AAA29832@camel14.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: the main specs for the 770Z are on my web site.. Paul Khoury wrote: **SNIP** -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 15:14:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA02391 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:14:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05646; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:13:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:12:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05528; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:12:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05504; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (txmia1-12.gate.net [207.234.163.12]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA306364; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:12:01 -0500 Message-ID: <36C72E10.863C10E5@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:12:00 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jeroen@netlinq.nl CC: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: [770X] Dual Display Function? References: <36C6F933.DAB642D9@netlinq.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Joroen... i've been wrestling with multiple displays on a desk type machine.. (P350, 384megs, ASUS P2BLS and muliple Matrox video cards + Number 9) sometimes they work, sometimes not.. there seems to be a need for a primary card (most likely the 770 TFT display) and then other displays can be initialized on bootup.. i had 3 working reliably until i tried to insert a more capable video card, now all is KAPUT! (more or less) when it WAS working everything came back to the display it was on when i shut down.. hope this rather messy comment is helpful.. Jeroen Elfferich wrote: > Hi, > > I've got a 770X with the 13.7" screen and Windows 98. One of > the more promising features of this machine is its ability to > display different output on the LCD and external CRT. > > I've got things working as described in the manual (p. 73). > I've got the LCD running 1280*1024 with 64K colours; the CRT > is displaying separate content at 800*600 with 64K colours as > well. > > Now, when I view the Settings of the Display Properties, > it shows two displays. When I run the 'Identify' option on > display #1, marked 'Laptop Display Panel 1280*1024 on IBM > Thinkpad....' it shows a large '1' on the CRT, while as I > perform the same action on display #2, marked 'Unknown moni- > tor on IBM Thinkpad....' it shows a large '2' on the LCD! Of > course, one would expect this to be the other way round. Is > this a known bug? > > My 770X has got 8 Mb of VideoRAM, yet a combination of > 1280*1024 (LCD) and 800*600 (CRT) is the maximum possible. > Trying to get the CRT at 1024 reduces color depth to 8bpp > (256 colors). Right now, I'm wondering why there's 8 Mb > in this machine? 1280*1024*16bpp + 800*600*16bpp = 3,5 Mb, > which is possible, while 1280*1024*16bpp + 1024*768*16bpp > would require 4,2 Mb, which is not working, let alone even > higher resolutions or bpp on the CRT. All this should be > easily possible with 8 Mb. To me it seems that there's no > advantage at all with the 8 Mb vs. 4 Mb on the 770ED, or am > I mistaken? Could this be improved with a driver update? > > Another, more annoying, thing is the fact that every appli- > cation I run pops up on the CRT display and then I have to > drag it manually to the LCD. I understand that the CRT is > the primary display (it says so in the manual), but does this > mean every program that is started automatically opens on the > CRT? I did move the windows task bar (with the Start button) > to the LCD and all the icons (my computer etc.), but every- > thing still starts on the external CRT. > > Since I just love the LCD, I would be glad to learn a way > to use this as the default location for apps and using the > CRT as some extra screen real estate for telnet, winamp etc. > etc. > > Regards, > > Jeroen Elfferich -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 16:36:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA03381 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:36:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08061; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:31:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07896; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:31:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from dasher.cs.utk.edu (DASHER.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07880; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:31:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from sunderam@localhost) by dasher.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id QAA18091 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:31:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:31:43 -0500 (EST) From: Vaidy Sunderam Message-Id: <199902142131.QAA18091@dasher.cs.utk.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: any rumors, part 2 List-Unsubscribe: I too am awaiting the successor to the 560. Meanwhile I caved in and got a Toshiba 3010 but there's classy and then thers everythign else. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 17:14:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA03843 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:14:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09449; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:13:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:12:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09342; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:12:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09328; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:12:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-175.usc.edu [128.125.223.175]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id OAA26243; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:12:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990214135237.00ae9cf0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:00:38 -0800 To: richard , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: tp 600 ? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990214105851.009b44a0@pop.interport.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:14 AM 2/14/99 -0500, you wrote: >A few questions regarding the TP 600. Given the number of people who >recommended considering this machine, I'm giving it another look. > >1) What much does it weigh without cd-rom or floppy? A smidgen under 5 lbs. > What does that AC >adaptor weigh? What do the cd-rom or floppy weigh? Who knows? About 5.5 lbs. with CD-ROM in--unknown on the AC adapter. Look at www.pc.ibm.com and find out for certain. >2) How well does the internal modem work? Any worse than a PC Card modem? Slightly worse in my experience. >3) What's a 300 PE Mhz chip? See >http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/$wwwovseriesb/1F91E08B62575EAD8525670 >20003E430 Dunno. >4) What's the difference between the new ?AU models and the older ?5U models? I think mainly just faster CPU and AGP graphics. As I discovered, AGP means nothing unless you're a gamer. >5) My perception is that Win98 is slower and less stable than Win95, >probably because of Internet Explorer. Is this true? The new machines all >come with Win98 (or NT). Would it be better to switch to Win95? Actually, I'd disagree with your perception. My TP 600 just came back >from EZServe repair where they replaced the HD (among other things). The HD had the standard preload on it, which is Win95. I had already upgraded the HD earlier (I sent them the original for replacement) and had installed Win 98 on my other HD. So I got to see firsthand my same machine boot up with Win95 with one drive and Win98 with the other. Win 98 was snappier--hands-down. (Surprised me, actually--I thought the same as you.) Again, the web site has all the tech information with what it comes with, etc. >6) Is the announced 3 hour battery life accurate? Claimed battery life on *any* machine is almost never accurate. But truth be told, I get around that on my TP 600 (P-II 233). - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 17:43:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA04145 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:43:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10492; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:42:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:40:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10369; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10347; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:40:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from amlaptop ([202.27.179.119]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990214224115.KEXW2899623.mta2-rme@amlaptop> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:41:15 +1300 Message-ID: <000e01be586a$b92d8b60$77b31bca@amlaptop> From: "Andreas Michaelides" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: tp 600 ? Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:38:18 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >5) My perception is that Win98 is slower and less stable than Win95, >probably because of Internet Explorer. Is this true? The new machines all >come with Win98 (or NT). Would it be better to switch to Win95? I don't think this is so myself. I have found win98 to be much more stable than win95. I like ie4 too. Later, Andreas!! ;-) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 18:55:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA04841 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:55:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12900; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:53:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:51:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12717; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:51:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12698; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:51:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-175.usc.edu [128.125.223.175]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id PAA09211; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:51:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990214153721.00af6eb0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:45:06 -0800 To: richard , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: tp 600 ? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990214180857.009b3c20@pop.interport.net> References: <4.1.19990214135237.00ae9cf0@rcf.usc.edu> <4.1.19990214105851.009b44a0@pop.interport.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 06:23 PM 2/14/99 -0500, you wrote: >>>2) How well does the internal modem work? Any worse than a PC Card modem? >> >> Slightly worse in my experience. > >Enough worse to use a PC Card modem? I don't think its enough to go buy a seperate one. I happened to already have on (used to use in a previous computer that did not have an internal modem), else I wouldn't have bothered. I typically get a 4000 bps connection with the internal, 4400 with my card. > Does using the modem have any effect on the machine's performance? Not that I can see. >Would you know if the internal modem interferes with a ethernet card? Shouldn't, if you configure things right. My card, incidently, is a combo modem/ethernet card. But if you have/get an "Xjack" modem, those often don't like sharing connection space with dongles on other cards. >When I tried win98 on my 560, it was slower (and less stable) than win95, >but faster (and more stable) than win95 + ie4. The difference was not great >- benchmarking with PC Mag's winstone showed a difference of less than 10%. > Active desktop was a disaster in terms of speed and stability. Maybe the There's your problem--don't use active deskop. ;-) Really...I don't know why anyone would, unless they like making a slow pig of their machine. Best of luck, - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 19:32:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA05206 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:32:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14479; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:31:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:30:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14306; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:30:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14291; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:30:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from tarski.math.hawaii.edu by math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA01823; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:30:20 -1000 Received: by tarski.math.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA08999; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:31:50 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199902150031.OAA08999@tarski.math.hawaii.edu> Subject: [TP560] Panasonic CD Rom problem To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 14 Feb 99 14:31:50 HST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] List-Unsubscribe: A friend has a 560 (2640-10U) and a Panasonic KXL-D745 CD (that's the one with the built-in sound card/speakers). Until today, when I had a go at it, he was never able to get this configuration to work. The problem - as I discovered - was that this CD uses the same ESS chip for sound as the 560. Unfortunately, it seems to be impossible to remove the sound device on the CD (in the W95 device list) without removing the whole CD device, and disabling the device doesn't keep it from interfering with the 560's sound card resources. (Both use IO addr 388, which can't be changed in the configuration.) Right now I have things working by means of two different hardware configs, one which recognizes the CD and not the onboard sound, the other doing the opposite. While this is acceptable to my friend, it is very kludgy - ideal would be a config which always uses the laptop's sound regardless of whether the CD is there. So, my question is, has anybody managed to make this (or a comparable setup) work properly? Thanks, David (ross@math.hawaii.edu) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 20:12:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA05609 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:12:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16015; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:11:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:09:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15842; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.bctel.ca (nfs1.bctel.ca [207.194.28.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15827; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:09:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from defiant (00-00-86-1d-bf-b1.bconnected.net [209.53.10.22]) by mail1.bctel.ca with SMTP id RAA00330; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:09:18 -0800 (PST) From: "Ryan Hung" To: "richard" , "TP List" Subject: RE: tp 600 ? Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:09:07 -0800 Message-ID: <000801be587f$c9590d60$160a35d1@defiant.bconnected.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990214153721.00af6eb0@rcf.usc.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: > -----Original Message----- > >Would you know if the internal modem interferes with a ethernet card? > > Shouldn't, if you configure things right. My card, > incidently, is a combo > modem/ethernet card. And I can confirm that the modem works fine with my Cardbus Ethernet card. > But if you have/get an "Xjack" modem, those often don't like sharing > connection space with dongles on other cards. That's right, and same for X-jack Ethernet cards too, which is what I have. I can't fit my SCSI card on at the same time. Also, I get about 2.5-3h on standard (i.e. wordprocessor) usage (backlight illumination at half intensity). Goes down significantly if I use the CD-ROM, for example. I'm also running this utility called Waterfall (http://cpu.simplenet.com/leading_wintech/) which seems to not only extend the battery life by turning off the CPU when idle, but actually makes the TP600 run cooler. Finally, Win98 for me is also not only slightly speedier, but also a bit more stable. Ryan. _/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/rhung@vcn.bc.ca__/ \__/ \__/ \_Apoptosis=programmed cell death/ \__/ \rwhung@interchange.ubc.ca_/ \__ _/ --you can't live without it!/ \__/ \http://www.vcn.bc.ca/people/rhung \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \My words Copyright (C) 1998 \__ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 21:02:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06182 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:02:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17255; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:52:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17106; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:52:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAD (smtp4.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17092; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:52:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:52:21 -0500 Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id UAA10923 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:52:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902150152.UAA10923@hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:49:25 -0800 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problem: Fuel Monitor sucking resources!? List-Unsubscribe: I've been having trouble over the months with various windows going funny, buttons losing their icons, and (most usefully) Acrobat Reader unable to display pages of PDFs and reporting "insufficient resources". So I started running the Windows 95 Resource Meter to see what was happening. The first time I got a warning regarding low resources from it, I started killing applications. Naturally programs like WordPerfect or QuickBooks caused a big jump in available resources when they shut down. But I killed everything on the task bar and still had <10%. So I starting killing icons from the system tray. Of all things, it was the Fuel Program (Start|Programs|ThinkPad|Fuel) that caused by far the biggest jump. I had Fuel Program in my startup and left it there for tracking. I'm working off AC 95%+ of the time. Now and then I'll run low on resources and killing it always brings them back up (sometimes I have too much else open, but I wouldn't expect _any_ noticeable jump on killing Fuel Program!). Is this a known problem? I can just remove it from the startup, but I'd like to keep it, if it use <2% of my system resources! Thanks! andrew ------ Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] SGML Mercenaries "Since 1990" 1883 Featherston Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 6P6 Phone 613-523-2237 / Fax 613-523-6893 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 21:21:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06360 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:21:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18265; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:18:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18091; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:18:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18078; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:18:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:18:06 -0500 Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id VAA13666 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:17:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902150217.VAA13666@hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:12:36 -0800 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: (770X) Any bad side-effects of converting C: to FAT32? List-Unsubscribe: >Brian Button wrote: > >> I'd love to free up some room on my C: drive, as it came from the >> factory almost 3/4 full. If I convert to FAT32, I can reduce my cluster >> size and regain a bunch of space on this drive. I did see a couple of >> downsides to this on the IBM website, involving some of the recovery CDs >> being unable to work with a FAT32 partition for C:. >> >> Has anyone done this conversion? How well did it work out for you? >> >> BTW - an introduction. I'm a long-time software developer, so I was >> looking for the best software development platform I could find that >> would both replace my desktop and function very well on the road. I >> ended up buying the 770X 7AU model (128Meg, 8Gig, Win98, DVD) as the >> best mix of those features, plus the ability to play some games and >> movies on those long trips :) So far, I'm very happy with my choice. The >> 1280x1024 resolution gives an incredible image, the battery life seems >> to be around 3 hours (I've just installed Rain, and I'll see if that >> helps that a bunch). I am going to resize the D: partition a bit and >> install RH5.2 (or 6.0) Linux within the next month. We'll see how that >> goes... Okay, this isn't exactly what you asked about, but it's my experience. I have a TP600 with 4GB HD. It's partitioned into two 2GB partitions. I wanted to make one big one (back when I first got it). Tried to do it as best I knew how and it didn't work. Called IBM support and they said it should work, gave me a couple of pointers (it's been a _long_ time since I partitioned that 72-megger into 8+32+32 on my Tandy 2000!). Tried again and still had no luck. Called IBM again and got someone different, more senior I think. _He_ told me that partitions >2GB (which I think implies FAT32, right?) are not supported. Something to do with the IBM-DOS sitting under Windows 95 not supporting it. He gave me some tips I could use to do it myself in a very ugly way (using the Win95 from my desktop machine at one point, I think). I did all that and two hours later, nothing. At that point I re-installed from the Recovery CD and got used to C: and D: :). andrew ------ Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] SGML Mercenaries "Since 1990" 1883 Featherston Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 6P6 Phone 613-523-2237 / Fax 613-523-6893 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 21:40:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06570 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:40:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19492; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:37:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19316; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19301; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:36:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-175.usc.edu [128.125.223.175]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id SAA00030; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:36:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990214182825.00af1550@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:36:37 -0800 To: "Andrew Webber" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: (770X) Any bad side-effects of converting C: to FAT32? In-Reply-To: <199902150217.VAA13666@hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:12 PM 2/14/99 -0800, you wrote: >>> I'd love to free up some room on my C: drive, as it came from the >>> factory almost 3/4 full. If I convert to FAT32, I can reduce my cluster >>> size and regain a bunch of space on this drive. I did see a couple of >>> downsides to this on the IBM website, involving some of the recovery CDs >>> being unable to work with a FAT32 partition for C:. >>> >>> Has anyone done this conversion? How well did it work out for you? >Okay, this isn't exactly what you asked about, but it's my experience. >I have a TP600 with 4GB HD. It's partitioned into two 2GB partitions. >I wanted to make one big one (back when I first got it). >Called IBM again and got someone different, more senior I think. _He_ >told me that partitions >2GB (which I think implies FAT32, right?) are >not supported. Something to do with the IBM-DOS sitting under Windows >95 not supporting it. FAT is limited to 2 GB partitions using its largest cluster size (32K, I think)--its just a mathematical fact. That's why FAT32 was created, to handle larger partitions. OS/2 with its HPFS and NT with its NTFS are more robust filing systems that didn't have the 2 GB limitation, but FAT always has (actually, way back when, FAT12 was the norm, which had a smaller limitation). Back when these things were designed...hey, Bill Gates thought 640K was more than enough for anyone, so you can imagine that in an era where a 10 GB hard drive was a very expensive option that 2 GB seemed to be impossible for anyone to have, let alone afford. And even then...why would anyone want such large partitions anyway? Personally it wasn't until recently that I personally had a true need for such large partitions, and then only because I've taken up video editing (where my typical 30 Min. video capture will take up 2 GB all by itself). > He gave me some tips I could use to do it myself >in a very ugly way (using the Win95 from my desktop machine at one >point, I think). I did all that and two hours later, nothing. At that >point I re-installed from the Recovery CD and got used to C: and D: :). Partition Magic (www.powerquest.com) would save both of you a lot of grief. It will allow you to resize, move, change to FAT32 (and back to FAT), etc. all without messing up your data and will do so pretty quickly. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 21:44:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06603 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19998; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:42:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:40:56 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19711; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id VAA05093 for dist-thinkpad; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:40:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17484; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:57:33 -0500 Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id UAA11253 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:57:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902150157.UAA11253@hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:55:48 -0800 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: tp 600 ? List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:14:28 -0500, richard wrote: >3) What's a 300 PE Mhz chip? See >http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/$wwwovseriesb/1F91E08B62575EAD8525670 >20003E430 I _think_ this may be written up in the current PC Magazine ("New Chips..."). They talk about how confusing Intel's naming is. >From http://developer.intel.com/design/mobile/mobile_pentiumII.htm it says the new line of Mobile Pentium II, which includes on-die 256K L2 cache (vs. 512K externally, I think) "Available at 366, 333, 300PE, and 266PE MHz for superior performance". So it may be the 300PE and 266PE are the same technology as the 366 and 333, but the PE is there because old-style 300 and 266 were also available. If I'm right about that, I think it would have made more sense to call them 366PE and 333PE to tie the names together. But check the new PC Magazine (maybe it's online) for more information on these new chips. andrew ------ Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] SGML Mercenaries "Since 1990" 1883 Featherston Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 6P6 Phone 613-523-2237 / Fax 613-523-6893 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 21:51:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06684 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20632; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:50:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:49:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20449; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:49:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20435; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:49:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:48:32 -0500 Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id VAA17120 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:47:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902150247.VAA17120@hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:47:35 -0800 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: (770X) Any bad side-effects of converting C: to FAT32? List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:36:37 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > Back when these things were designed...hey, Bill Gates thought 640K was >more than enough for anyone, so you can imagine that in an era where a 10 >GB hard drive was a very expensive option that 2 GB seemed to be impossible >for anyone to have, let alone afford. And even then...why would anyone >want such large partitions anyway? Personally it wasn't until recently >that I personally had a true need for such large partitions, and then only >because I've taken up video editing (where my typical 30 Min. video capture >will take up 2 GB all by itself). I remember when the limit increased from 32Mb to 512Mb (DOS 4? DOS 5?). These days, the higher limit is as much for convenience as anything else. Say I want to install a new 14GB hard drive (okay, I can't fit one in the machine). Do I really want drive letters C: D: E: F: G: H: I:? >> He gave me some tips I could use to do it myself >>in a very ugly way (using the Win95 from my desktop machine at one >>point, I think). I did all that and two hours later, nothing. At that >>point I re-installed from the Recovery CD and got used to C: and D: :). > > Partition Magic (www.powerquest.com) would save both of you a lot of grief. > > It will allow you to resize, move, change to FAT32 (and back to FAT), etc. >all without messing up your data and will do so pretty quickly. I'm not convinced of that, based on my experience (although it doesn't mean you're wrong). I had no trouble re-formatting the drive, really all that was on it was the delivered configuration and a couple of apps I'd just installed. This seemed to be a more basic limitation, kind of like running DOS 5 and being limited to 512Mb (although I put a 540Mb in my old 386 and used special software to get the extra 28Mb). I think. His suggestion involved using some files from my desktop Win95OSR2 in place of some from the TP's. At this point I probably wouldn't combine the C: and D: because there's too much on them. But I'd love to hear from someone with a TP600 (233 or 266) who's actually done this rather than knowing it "should" work. (And I mean no disrespect by that Randy, it's what both I and the first IBM tech thought too, and I've received email from other people -- but not one who's actually _done_ it). Thanks for your comments. andrew ------ Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] SGML Mercenaries "Since 1990" 1883 Featherston Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 6P6 Phone 613-523-2237 / Fax 613-523-6893 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 22:07:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA06848 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21352; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:04:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21211; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:04:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21196; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:04:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from holygrail (mg139-015.ricochet.net [204.179.139.15]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA29219; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:04:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <005901be588f$e40a7210$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Andrew Webber" , "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Subject: Re: Problem: Fuel Monitor sucking resources!? Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:04:21 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Yes. This is known. Look for a fix on the ThinkPad support site. -----Original Message----- > Of all >things, it was the Fuel Program (Start|Programs|ThinkPad|Fuel) that >caused by far the biggest jump. > >I had Fuel Program in my startup and left it there for tracking. I'm >working off AC 95%+ of the time. Now and then I'll run low on >resources and killing it always brings them back up (sometimes I have >too much else open, but I wouldn't expect _any_ noticeable jump on >killing Fuel Program!). > >Is this a known problem? I can just remove it from the startup, but >I'd like to keep it, if it use <2% of my system resources! > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 22:12:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA06913 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:12:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21746; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:12:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:10:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21585; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:10:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21572; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:10:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-175.usc.edu [128.125.223.175]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id TAA03842; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:10:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990214185756.00aec500@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:10:27 -0800 To: "Andrew Webber" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: (770X) Any bad side-effects of converting C: to FAT32? In-Reply-To: <199902150247.VAA17120@hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:47 PM 2/14/99 -0800, you wrote: >>want such large partitions anyway? Personally it wasn't until recently >>that I personally had a true need for such large partitions, and then only >>because I've taken up video editing (where my typical 30 Min. video capture >>will take up 2 GB all by itself). > >I remember when the limit increased from 32Mb to 512Mb (DOS 4? DOS >5?). These days, the higher limit is as much for convenience as >anything else. Say I want to install a new 14GB hard drive (okay, I >can't fit one in the machine). Do I really want drive letters C: D: >E: F: G: H: I:? Keeping in mind its only been the last year or so that >8 GB drives have become commonplace... Up until a month ago, I had 5 GB of HD space in my desktop machine and thought it was a lot. :-) >>> He gave me some tips I could use to do it myself >>>in a very ugly way (using the Win95 from my desktop machine at one >>>point, I think). I did all that and two hours later, nothing. At that >>>point I re-installed from the Recovery CD and got used to C: and D: :). >> >> Partition Magic (www.powerquest.com) would save both of you a lot of grief. >> >> It will allow you to resize, move, change to FAT32 (and back to FAT), etc. >>all without messing up your data and will do so pretty quickly. > >I'm not convinced of that, based on my experience (although it doesn't >mean you're wrong). I had no trouble re-formatting the drive, really Its never any trouble formatting a drive--its just a lot of trouble backing up all the data and then restoring the OS & data back onto the drive once formatted. > This seemed to be a more basic limitation, kind of >like running DOS 5 and being limited to 512Mb (although I put a 540Mb That was a limitation of the original IDE interface. Fixed by EIDE (and expanded to a limitation of 8 GB, was was overcome about a year ago in a new version of the IDE interface). It should be understood that the limitations of the hardware interface are *not* the same as the limitation in the OS's file system. Even OS/2 and NT, despite their more robust file systems, are and would be limited by the original IDE's 512 MB limitation and EIDE's 8 GB limitation. >At this point I probably wouldn't combine the C: and D: because there's >too much on them. But I'd love to hear from someone with a TP600 (233 >or 266) who's actually done this rather than knowing it "should" work. >(And I mean no disrespect by that Randy, it's what both I and the first >IBM tech thought too, and I've received email from other people -- but >not one who's actually _done_ it). You just did. :-) I've worked Partition Magic all over my HD on many occasions, on a Thinkpad 701, 560, and my current 600. I have also done so on more than a few desktop machines. I've deleted and created partitions, re-sized them, changed from FAT to FAT32 (and back), and a myriad of other things. There's no "theoretical" about it--I've done it many times and highly recommend Partition Magic. Even just one use saves such an enormous amount of time and trouble that its price is well worthwhile just for that very first use. But perhaps I'm just not entirely clear on what exactly it is you want to do. If it was make a partition greater than 2 GB and *not* have it be FAT32, you're out of luck--the plain and simple fact is that the "regular" FAT file system is simply incapable of addressing a partition greater than 2 GB and therefore it will not create one in FDISK, Partition Magic, or anything else. That's the *reason* FAT32 was created. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 22:42:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA07218 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:42:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22962; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:40:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:38:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22840; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:38:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22827; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:38:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.31.146]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990215033745.FBSA19475@dts-jl> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:37:45 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990214223651.00b1e830@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:36:51 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: (770X) Any bad side-effects of converting C: to FAT32? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990214185756.00aec500@rcf.usc.edu> References: <199902150247.VAA17120@hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 07:10 PM 2/14/99 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > There's no "theoretical" about it--I've done it many times and highly >recommend Partition Magic. Even just one use saves such an enormous amount >of time and trouble that its price is well worthwhile just for that very >first use. > I absolutely agree. Been using it since v1.0 and can't imagine being without such a tool now. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 23:00:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA07456 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:00:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23672; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:59:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:57:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23511; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:57:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23498; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:57:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:57:09 -0500 Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hil-img-ims-1.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id WAA27742 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:56:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902150356.WAA27742@hil-img-ims-1.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:51:40 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Problem: Fuel Monitor sucking resources!? List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:04:21 -0800, David W. Taylor wrote: >Yes. This is known. Look for a fix on the ThinkPad support site. > >-----Original Message----- >> Of all >>things, it was the Fuel Program (Start|Programs|ThinkPad|Fuel) that >>caused by far the biggest jump. Thank you, I will do that. I _thought_ I looked before but I guess not. andrew ------ Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] SGML Mercenaries "Since 1990" 1883 Featherston Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 6P6 Phone 613-523-2237 / Fax 613-523-6893 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 23:06:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA07523 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:06:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23996; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:02:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23876; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAD (smtp4.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23863; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:02:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:01:35 -0500 Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hil-img-ims-1.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.6) with SMTP id XAA28081 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:01:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902150401.XAA28081@hil-img-ims-1.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:57:00 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: (770X) Any bad side-effects of converting C: to FAT32? List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:10:27 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > But perhaps I'm just not entirely clear on what exactly it is you want to >do. If it was make a partition greater than 2 GB and *not* have it be >FAT32, you're out of luck--the plain and simple fact is that the "regular" >FAT file system is simply incapable of addressing a partition greater than >2 GB and therefore it will not create one in FDISK, Partition Magic, or >anything else. That's the *reason* FAT32 was created. No, you understood perfectly. :) (As did the others who emailed me today). The IBM guys didn't mention Partition Magic, probably with good reason given that a lot of real neophytes probably call them. As I understand it, if I got a 4GB drive for my desktop, and it came with 2 2GB partitions, I could FDISK it and everything else (using Win95OSR2) and end up with one 4GB partition. But that using the tools provided with my TP600, which supposedly includes Win95OSR2 I believe, I cannot do that -- there's a stumbling block somewhere that prevents it from working. Maybe something as simple as a version of FDISK that comes with IBMDOSv7 that only supports FAT16 (which I think was even the case with the first Win95?). I do appreciate the information about Partition Magic. I've heard good things about it for quite some time but have never seen a specific use for it in my situation (the desktop came with a single 3.2GB partition). Even now, I'll stick with C: and D: since there's not much free space on either partition and they both now loaded down with data (C:) and programs (D:) anyway. But if I start seriously considering another big drive, I'll make sure I get PM at the same time. Thanks again! andrew ------ Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] SGML Mercenaries "Since 1990" 1883 Featherston Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 6P6 Phone 613-523-2237 / Fax 613-523-6893 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 14 23:24:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA07719 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:24:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24924; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:24:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:22:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24788; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:22:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.bctel.ca (nfs1.bctel.ca [207.194.28.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24765; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:22:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from defiant (00-00-86-1d-bf-b1.bconnected.net [209.53.10.22]) by mail1.bctel.ca with SMTP id UAA11575; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:22:03 -0800 (PST) From: "Ryan Hung" To: "Andrew Webber" , "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Subject: RE: (770X) Any bad side-effects of converting C: to FAT32? Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:21:50 -0800 Message-ID: <000a01be589a$b537e660$160a35d1@defiant.bconnected.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199902150247.VAA17120@hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: > -----Original Message----- > > It will allow you to resize, move, change to FAT32 (and > back to FAT), etc. > >all without messing up your data and will do so pretty quickly. > > I'm not convinced of that, based on my experience (although it doesn't > mean you're wrong). I had no trouble re-formatting the drive, really > all that was on it was the delivered configuration and a couple of apps > I'd just installed. This seemed to be a more basic limitation, kind of > like running DOS 5 and being limited to 512Mb (although I put a 540Mb > in my old 386 and used special software to get the extra 28Mb). I > think. His suggestion involved using some files from my desktop > Win95OSR2 in place of some from the TP's. Actually, I recently did exactly that, changing from FAT32 back to FAT16 (on my desktop). Basically, I was transfering all my data from my two old hard disks onto two new ones (don't ask, it's a nightmare in complexity because I have drive letter C through L, all of which are hardcoded into my application installations--so I have to maintain all of these partitions when I moved stuff over), and I found out that you can't use Drivespace/Doublespace with a FAT32 partition. I.e., when I copied over the compressed volume file, it didn't work. So I used Partition Magic 4 to resize the drive done to 2GB and then convert to FAT16. Everything worked fine after that. (In case you're wondering, I'm only using Drivespace to swap drive letters between H: and L:, a throwback to the old days when I did actually compress the 420MB drive...) Ryan. _/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/rhung@vcn.bc.ca__/ \__/ \__/ \_Apoptosis=programmed cell death/ \__/ \rwhung@interchange.ubc.ca_/ \__ _/ --you can't live without it!/ \__/ \http://www.vcn.bc.ca/people/rhung \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \My words Copyright (C) 1998 \__ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 00:05:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA08205 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:05:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26657; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:04:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:02:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26476; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:02:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26463; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:02:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-175.usc.edu [128.125.223.175]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id VAA14779; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:02:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990214210056.00af42d0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:02:07 -0800 To: "David W. Taylor" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Problem: Fuel Monitor sucking resources!? In-Reply-To: <005901be588f$e40a7210$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 07:04 PM 2/14/99 -0800, you wrote: >Yes. This is known. Look for a fix on the ThinkPad support site. I don't know about Andrew there, but I just searched the website and can't seem to find anything about the Fuel Guage sucking up undue resources. For that matter, where is the program file located? In the Utilities disk package? - Randy Whittle >-----Original Message----- >> Of all >>things, it was the Fuel Program (Start|Programs|ThinkPad|Fuel) that >>caused by far the biggest jump. >> >>I had Fuel Program in my startup and left it there for tracking. I'm >>working off AC 95%+ of the time. Now and then I'll run low on >>resources and killing it always brings them back up (sometimes I have >>too much else open, but I wouldn't expect _any_ noticeable jump on >>killing Fuel Program!). >> >>Is this a known problem? I can just remove it from the startup, but >>I'd like to keep it, if it use <2% of my system resources! >> > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 00:53:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA08626 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:53:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28778; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:52:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:50:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28623; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:50:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28609; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:50:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from amlaptop ([202.27.179.92]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990215055024.PCJS682101.mta1-rme@amlaptop> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:50:24 +1300 Message-ID: <014401be58a6$b07c3ca0$82b31bca@amlaptop> From: "Andreas Michaelides" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: (770X) Any bad side-effects of converting C: to FAT32? Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:46:11 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >> He gave me some tips I could use to do it myself >>in a very ugly way (using the Win95 from my desktop machine at one >>point, I think). I did all that and two hours later, nothing. At that >>point I re-installed from the Recovery CD and got used to C: and D: :). > > Partition Magic (www.powerquest.com) would save both of you a lot of grief. > > It will allow you to resize, move, change to FAT32 (and back to FAT), etc. >all without messing up your data and will do so pretty quickly. > >- Randy Whittle > I think almost anyone who has used Partition Magic will tell you it's worth it's weight in gold. One of the most useful programs I've ever used. You might not use it everyday, but when you do need it's features, saves you sooo much headache!! Later, Andreas!! :-) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 01:00:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA08685 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:00:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29232; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:58:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29036; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:58:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29008; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:58:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from amlaptop ([202.27.179.92]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990215055733.PDFI682101.mta1-rme@amlaptop> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:57:33 +1300 Message-ID: <016501be58a7$ac8172e0$82b31bca@amlaptop> From: "Andreas Michaelides" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: Problem: Fuel Monitor sucking resources!? Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:54:37 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >At 07:04 PM 2/14/99 -0800, you wrote: >>Yes. This is known. Look for a fix on the ThinkPad support site. > > I don't know about Andrew there, but I just searched the website and can't >seem to find anything about the Fuel Guage sucking up undue resources. For >that matter, where is the program file located? In the Utilities disk package? > >- Randy Whittle > Try: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/LWIK-3ZGPTF.html Later, Andreas!! ;-) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 01:46:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA09024 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:46:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01903; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:45:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:44:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01757; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:44:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from firefly.prairienet.org (firefly.prairienet.org [192.17.3.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01744; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:43:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (slip-7.prairienet.org [192.17.3.139]) by firefly.prairienet.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA20264 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:43:48 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: (770X) Any bad side-effects of converting C: to FAT32? Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:42:45 -0600 Message-ID: <000401be58ae$65230420$0200a8c0@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <000a01be589a$b537e660$160a35d1@defiant.bconnected.net> List-Unsubscribe: That, sir, is formally known as an Administrative Nightmare. I've always been an advocate of keeping partition structures simple, but I've ended up in nearly the same boat -- my wish to dual-boot, need for application storage for mobile support use, and my affinity for PGPdisk, have created drive letters through I:. Add a few mapped network drives when I'm on the LAN, and I feel like alphabet soup. <=} > -----Original Message----- > From: Ryan Hung [mailto:rwhung@interchange.ubc.ca] > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 1999 10:22 PM > To: Andrew Webber; ThinkPad Mailinglist > Subject: RE: (770X) Any bad side-effects of converting C: to FAT32? > > > Actually, I recently did exactly that, changing from FAT32 back > to FAT16 (on > my desktop). Basically, I was transfering all my data from my > two old hard > disks onto two new ones (don't ask, it's a nightmare in > complexity because I > have drive letter C through L, all of which are hardcoded into my > application installations--so I have to maintain all of these partitions > when I moved stuff over), and I found out that you can't use > Drivespace/Doublespace with a FAT32 partition. I.e., when I > copied over the > compressed volume file, it didn't work. So I used Partition Magic 4 to > resize the drive done to 2GB and then convert to FAT16. Everything worked > fine after that. (In case you're wondering, I'm only using Drivespace to > swap drive letters between H: and L:, a throwback to the old days > when I did > actually compress the 420MB drive...) > > Ryan. > > _/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/rhung@vcn.bc.ca__/ \__/ \__/ > \_Apoptosis=programmed cell death/ \__/ > \rwhung@interchange.ubc.ca_/ \__ > _/ --you can't live without it!/ \__/ \http://www.vcn.bc.ca/people/rhung > \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \My words Copyright > (C) 1998 \__ > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 03:52:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA10070 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:52:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09952; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:51:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:49:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09806; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:49:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (smtp0.mindspring.com [207.69.200.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09793; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:49:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldh91.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.197.33]) by smtp0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA14404; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:49:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902150849.DAA14404@smtp0.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Ron Heiby" Date: Mon, 15 Feb 99 00:49:49 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: EZServe Revisited--Doing the Right Thing? List-Unsubscribe: >So, it isn't all that surprising when a technician totally ignores the >statement or problem. Yeah, a similiar situation happened to me. When I first had my 355C, which I really only had about a month of REAL use (with the display working), it was in repair for 6 MONTHS! And the technicians didn't at the authorized servicer didn't respond to my calls, didn't take my suggestions, and even messed up the machine beyond recognition (fortunately, that's how I got my 701). And coincedentially, they went out of business about 2 weeks later (I think it was a national chain - it was called Connecting Point, if I recall). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 04:22:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA10279 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 04:22:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12689; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 04:21:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 04:20:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12548; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 04:20:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from serv1.is2.u-net.net ([194.119.130.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12534; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 04:20:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from p116.nas2.is4.u-net.net ([195.102.198.244] helo=dunham.net) by serv1.is2.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu id 10CK9q-0001NB-00; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:17:39 +0000 Message-ID: <36C7E621.366FADB8@dunham.net> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:17:21 +0000 From: Chris D X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: [TP760] Replacement screens Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone have for sale, or know where I can get, for a sensible price a replacement screen for my TP760L? I have been offered a screen for a 755, but I don't know if it will fit, is there a way of finding out which screens are compatible? TIA Chris D From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 07:00:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA11134 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:00:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23419; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 06:57:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 06:54:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23276; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 06:54:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23257; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 06:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp770ed (client-151-204-210-36.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.36]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id GAA26711 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 06:55:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990215065307.00694f98@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 06:53:07 -0500 To: "ThinkPad List" From: Mark Bell Subject: Forcing X2 modulation (TP 770ED) In-Reply-To: <199902150849.DAA14404@smtp0.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I am trying to force my TP770ED to connect using X2 to an X2/V90 capable ISP provider. I connect w/ V.90, but at only 32000 (Ick). Using an External USR X2/V.90 Sportster, I connect @ 48000 and 49333 using X2 modulation (The Sportster defaults to this primarily). The TP modem uses V.90 first. I need the register/command to force X2 only or X2 primarily. Mark Bell ElectroSoft Consulting Voice: 609-293-9426 Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 07:34:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA11306 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:34:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA24415; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:31:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:29:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA24146; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:29:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA24132; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:29:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id GAA14324; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 06:28:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from alb-ny3-23.ix.netcom.com(204.32.163.119) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma014319; Mon Feb 15 06:28:33 1999 Message-ID: <36C81277.A3C8797E@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:26:31 -0500 From: Maxie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris D CC: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: [TP760] Replacement screens References: <36C7E621.366FADB8@dunham.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Nuts and Volts mag has a few advertsiers that offer replacement tft notebook screen. harvey Chris D wrote: > Does anyone have for sale, or know where I can get, for a sensible price a > replacement screen for my TP760L? I have been offered a screen for a 755, > but I don't know if it will fit, is there a way of finding out which > screens are compatible? > TIA > Chris D From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 07:41:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA11343 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:41:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA24952; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:38:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:36:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA24745; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:36:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (root@avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.150.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA24730; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:36:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.167.101]) by avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA02519; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:35:52 +0100 (MET) Received: (from utcke@localhost) by asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) id NAA26843; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:35:42 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199902151235.NAA26843@asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: 701C: Battery doesn't charge? In-Reply-To: <199902140548.AAA29983@camel14.mindspring.com> from Paul Khoury at "Feb 13, 99 09:48:29 pm" To: pkhoury@mindspring.com Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:35:42 +0100 (MET) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: sven.utcke@gmx.de (Sven Utcke) Reply-to: sven.utcke@gmx.de (Sven Utcke) Phone: +49-(0)761-203-8274 Fax: +49-(0)761-203-8262 Address: Albert-Ludwigs-Universitaet Freiburg, Institut fuer Informatik Address: Lehrstuhl fuer Mustererkennung und Bildverarbeitung X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello Paul, > >Nope. Three equally long (or rather short) beeps. Well, it's > >actually more like > > > >knack beep beep beep :-) > Which means that the battery doesn't have enough charge to power up > the computer. I thought so, although I couldn't find anything about it in the manual. However, the battery _does_ have enough charge to power up the computer (1.7Ah, and I can easily draw 800mA or more, no sweat), so I guess it really means the computer is broken. > >> Let's start with the AC adapter first-it should be from 15.5-17Vdc. > > > >16.8V > Sounds right. I think it's supposed to put out 16V if I'm correct. > >> As for the battery, here's what voltages you should have: > >> (looking at the terminal-end of the battery with the rounded side to the > >> right) > >> pin1(far left) - 11.0(nominal) (range from 10 - 16) > > > >12.55 after charging. > > > Hmmm... > > >> >The strange thing is that by now I can not boot at all anymore, not > >> >even with a fully charged battery. > >> > >> Well you'v either got a defective battery or possibly a charger. > > > >I charged the battery with an external charger. The battery is both > >good (1.7Ah, which should be good enough) as well as charged. > > > If it warranty is out, you could try and open the battery up. You > should find 6 larger-than-AA-size cells. In the battery I opened up, > they were green cells, with a transistor on the bottom towards the > terminals. You might be able to find someone who sells replacement > batteries, and use those. As I said, the battery looks perfectly fine to me. It holds 1.7Ah, it gives 12.55V if fully charged, and stays above 12V (initially) even if I take 800mA out. So I really do not think it's the battery. > >> If you'd be up to it, you could ship me your battery and I'd check > >> it out for you.(on a working 701). > > > >Well, I'm sitting in Germany, so this might not be a good idea. But > >thanks for the offer! > Have you tried the 701 battery reset program? Yes, but to no avail. But of course the problem is not (as usual) that the computer thinks the battery is fully charged, although it is not, but that it thinks it is broken, although it isn't. It doesn't even say low battery or anything, but defective Battery. I'm tempted to have a look at the top system board, if I'm ever able to find a TORX 1 screwdriver --- in particular since IBM is charging more than US$ 100 just for looking at it. Sigh. Thanks Sven -- _ _ Lehrstuhl fuer Mustererkennung und Bildverarbeitung | |_ __ | |__ Sven Utcke | | ' \| '_ \ phone: +49 761 203 8274 Am Flughafen 17 |_|_|_|_|_.__/ fax : +49 761 203 8262 79110 Freiburg i. Brsg. mailto:utcke@informatik.uni-freiburg.de www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~utcke From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 11:29:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA13139 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:29:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08722; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:25:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:23:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08479; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:23:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from I1.genam.com ([208.209.229.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08466; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:22:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from insight-tech.com ([10.4.56.10]) by I1.genam.com (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) with SMTP id 86256719.005A1E03; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:24:19 -0600 Message-ID: <36C8491C.FDDF3FD6@insight-tech.com> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:19:40 -0600 From: Brian Button Organization: Insight Technology Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: (770X) Installing Linux and partition type 0xF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone installed RH5.2 on their 770X's? I'm having a problem setting the / partition to /dev/hda6, since DiskDruid doesn't recognize 0xF as a valid partition type. Any suggestions? bab -- Brian Button bbutton@insight-tech.com Senior Consultant Insight Technology Group, Inc. Product Reviews Editor C++ Report Magazine From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 11:33:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA13182 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09373; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:29:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:27:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08963; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:27:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail15.svr.pol.co.uk (mail15.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08938; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:27:20 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from modem-43.iron.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.12.171] helo=amd-k6) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10CQre-0007d6-00 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:27:18 +0000 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:26:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Video in/out cable wanted for 760ED Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone have the video in/out cable for a 760ED for sale? thanks Mark From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 11:34:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA13191 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:34:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09381; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:29:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:27:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08983; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:27:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail15.svr.pol.co.uk (mail15.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08941; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:27:21 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from modem-43.iron.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.12.171] helo=amd-k6) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10CQrd-0007d6-00 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:27:18 +0000 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:26:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Looking for 150Mhz CPU card for thinkpad 760ED Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I recently bought a second hand 760ED. Lovely little machine but it is upgradeable from a 133 to 150 pentium. the cpu comes on a card and the IBM part no is: 82H8877 150MHz CPu card thinkpad 760E/ED Slim model If anyone has one or knows where to get them then please mail me, thanks Mark. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 11:40:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA13245 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:40:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10087; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:37:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:35:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09819; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:35:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.eecs.uic.edu (mail.eecs.uic.edu [131.193.32.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09804; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:35:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from chicago.ParSysLab (chicago.eecs.uic.edu [131.193.39.114]) by mail.eecs.uic.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA09732; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:36:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from atlanta.eecs.uic.edu by chicago.ParSysLab (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA22139; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:34:50 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost.eecs.uic.edu [127.0.0.1]) by atlanta.eecs.uic.edu (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19381; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:34:49 -0600 (CST) To: bbutton@insight-tech.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: solworth@parsys.eecs.uic.edu Subject: Re: (770X) Installing Linux and partition type 0xF From: Jon Solworth In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:19:40 -0600" <36C8491C.FDDF3FD6@insight-tech.com> References: <36C8491C.FDDF3FD6@insight-tech.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93b56 on Emacs 20.3 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990215103449H.solworth@parsys.eecs.uic.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:34:49 -0600 X-Dispatcher: imput version 980822 Lines: 20 List-Unsubscribe: I've had problems with DiskDruid and suggest the alternative (fdisk?) instead. Never had problems with the latter. Jon From: Brian Button Subject: (770X) Installing Linux and partition type 0xF Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:19:40 -0600 > Has anyone installed RH5.2 on their 770X's? I'm having a problem setting > the / partition to /dev/hda6, since DiskDruid doesn't recognize 0xF as a > valid partition type. > > Any suggestions? > > bab > -- > Brian Button bbutton@insight-tech.com > Senior Consultant Insight Technology Group, Inc. > Product Reviews Editor C++ Report Magazine From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 11:49:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA13323 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:49:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10909; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:45:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:43:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10700; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:43:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from I1.genam.com ([208.209.229.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10672; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:43:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from insight-tech.com ([10.4.56.10]) by I1.genam.com (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) with SMTP id 86256719.005BFB4B; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:44:41 -0600 Message-ID: <36C84DE2.812E1795@insight-tech.com> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:40:02 -0600 From: Brian Button Organization: Insight Technology Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon Solworth CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: (770X) Installing Linux and partition type 0xF References: <36C8491C.FDDF3FD6@insight-tech.com> <19990215103449H.solworth@parsys.eecs.uic.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Thanks for the advice, Jon. I actually created the ext2 and swap partitions through PartitionMagic4.0, and fdisk sees everything fine. When I quit fdisk, though, I get sent to the next screen of the install which leads me through finding a mount point for /. This appears to be another call to DiskDruid, since the only possible partitions shown are /dev/hda1 (Win95 FAT32) and /dev/hda2 (unknown 0xf). How did you assign /dev/hda2 to /? bab Jon Solworth wrote: > > I've had problems with DiskDruid and suggest the alternative (fdisk?) > instead. Never had problems with the latter. > > Jon > > From: Brian Button > Subject: (770X) Installing Linux and partition type 0xF > Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:19:40 -0600 > > > Has anyone installed RH5.2 on their 770X's? I'm having a problem setting > > the / partition to /dev/hda6, since DiskDruid doesn't recognize 0xF as a > > valid partition type. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > bab > > -- > > Brian Button bbutton@insight-tech.com > > Senior Consultant Insight Technology Group, Inc. > > Product Reviews Editor C++ Report Magazine -- Brian Button bbutton@insight-tech.com Senior Consultant Insight Technology Group, Inc. Product Reviews Editor C++ Report Magazine From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 12:02:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA13453 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:02:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12263; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:58:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:56:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12107; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:56:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.eecs.uic.edu (mail.eecs.uic.edu [131.193.32.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12084; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:56:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from chicago.ParSysLab (chicago.eecs.uic.edu [131.193.39.114]) by mail.eecs.uic.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA10798; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:57:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from atlanta.eecs.uic.edu by chicago.ParSysLab (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA22170; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:56:20 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost.eecs.uic.edu [127.0.0.1]) by atlanta.eecs.uic.edu (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19417; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:56:20 -0600 (CST) To: bbutton@insight-tech.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: solworth@parsys.eecs.uic.edu Subject: Re: (770X) Installing Linux and partition type 0xF From: Jon Solworth In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:40:02 -0600" <36C84DE2.812E1795@insight-tech.com> References: <36C84DE2.812E1795@insight-tech.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93b56 on Emacs 20.3 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990215105620E.solworth@parsys.eecs.uic.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:56:20 -0600 X-Dispatcher: imput version 980822 Lines: 64 List-Unsubscribe: Brian, I don't remember all the details, and can't see how to get fdisk to display partition types from a command line. But when I look at my partitions I get: _____ # fdisk -l Disk /dev/hda: 240 heads, 63 sectors, 662 cylinders Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 277 2094088+ 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M /dev/hda2 * 278 413 1028160 83 Linux native /dev/hda3 414 431 136080 82 Linux swap /dev/hda4 432 662 1746360 83 Linux native _____ So, you may have a partition type that is not being recognized. (BTW, the above is from a 5.2 system). Jon From: Brian Button Subject: Re: (770X) Installing Linux and partition type 0xF Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:40:02 -0600 > Thanks for the advice, Jon. I actually created the ext2 and swap > partitions through PartitionMagic4.0, and fdisk sees everything fine. > When I quit fdisk, though, I get sent to the next screen of the install > which leads me through finding a mount point for /. This appears to be > another call to DiskDruid, since the only possible partitions shown are > /dev/hda1 (Win95 FAT32) and /dev/hda2 (unknown 0xf). > > How did you assign /dev/hda2 to /? > > bab > > Jon Solworth wrote: > > > > I've had problems with DiskDruid and suggest the alternative (fdisk?) > > instead. Never had problems with the latter. > > > > Jon > > > > From: Brian Button > > Subject: (770X) Installing Linux and partition type 0xF > > Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:19:40 -0600 > > > > > Has anyone installed RH5.2 on their 770X's? I'm having a problem setting > > > the / partition to /dev/hda6, since DiskDruid doesn't recognize 0xF as a > > > valid partition type. > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > bab > > > -- > > > Brian Button bbutton@insight-tech.com > > > Senior Consultant Insight Technology Group, Inc. > > > Product Reviews Editor C++ Report Magazine > > -- > Brian Button bbutton@insight-tech.com > Senior Consultant Insight Technology Group, Inc. > Product Reviews Editor C++ Report Magazine From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 12:10:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA13509 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:10:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12725; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:01:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:00:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12489; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:00:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from home2.netland.nl (IDENT:root@mx1.netland.nl [193.67.32.55]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12472; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:00:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from gateway.office.netlinq.nl (root@[195.108.57.218]) by home2.netland.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA02941; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:58:19 +0100 Received: from netlinq.nl ([192.168.0.81]) by gateway.office.netlinq.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA24459; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:00:40 +0100 Message-ID: <36C852A7.18E4F2@netlinq.nl> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:00:23 +0100 From: Jeroen Elfferich Reply-To: jeroen@netlinq.nl Organization: http://www.netlinq.nl/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mark@houlihan.freeserve.co.uk CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Looking for 150Mhz CPU card for thinkpad 760ED References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi Mark, I doubt that this upgrade will give a noticeable performance improvement. I've been working on two similar laptops with 133 vs. 150 mhz (Toshiba 720 vs. 730CDT) and it didn't make a difference. The problem is the speed on the motherboard is lower for 150 mhz CPU's, like 60 instead of 66 mhz. 150 will probably use a bit more power too... Regards, Jeroen mark@houlihan.freeserve.co.uk wrote: > > Hi, > > I recently bought a second hand 760ED. Lovely little machine but it > is upgradeable from a 133 to 150 pentium. > > the cpu comes on a card and the IBM part no is: > > 82H8877 150MHz CPu card thinkpad 760E/ED Slim model > > If anyone has one or knows where to get them then please > mail me, thanks > > Mark. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 12:51:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA13958 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:51:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17696; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:47:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:45:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17434; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:45:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17405; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:44:56 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from AlanCDane@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 2UTZa05340; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:43:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <11276c47.36c85cb5@aol.com> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:43:17 EST To: mark@houlihan.freeserve.co.uk, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Video in/out cable wanted for 760ED Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 2/15/99 11:36:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, mark@houlihan.freeserve.co.uk writes: << Does anyone have the video in/out cable for a 760ED for sale? thanks Mark >> what exactly DO the cables allow the 760ED to do? I've got one of these laptops, just curious to know what capabilities that options allows. thanks Alan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 13:20:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA14307 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:20:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19870; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:16:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:15:14 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19695; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:15:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id NAA10382 for dist-thinkpad; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24670; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:19:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from holygrail (mg139-015.ricochet.net [204.179.139.15]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA14291; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:18:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <007401be589a$4c867280$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Andrew Webber" , "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Subject: Re: Problem: Fuel Monitor sucking resources!? Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:18:51 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >From the Utility Disk Release notes: <4.13> -(New) Support for ThinkPad 770X and 600E. -(New) Support for the installation option for ThinkPad Configuration for DOS. -(Fix) Fuel-Gauge program consumes GUI resource while charging. -(Fix) Fuel-Gauge program displays an error message when F1 key is pressed. Look under "Utility Diskette for..." for your OS. David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 13:46:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA14558 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:46:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21897; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:41:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:39:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21753; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:39:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.interlog.com (root@smtp.interlog.com [207.34.202.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21735; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:39:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from chamber.ca (209-20-1-200.dialin.interlog.com [209.20.1.200]) by smtp.interlog.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA15050 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:39:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36C869CF.B9A5F039@chamber.ca> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:39:11 -0500 From: Scott Campbell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Mon, 15 Feb 1999 References: X-Corel-MessageType: EMail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > Back when these things were designed...hey, Bill Gates thought 640K was > more than enough for anyone, so you can imagine that in an era where a 10 > GB hard drive was a very expensive option that 2 GB seemed to be impossible > for anyone to have, let alone afford. And even then...why would anyone > want such large partitions anyway? Personally it wasn't until recently > that I personally had a true need for such large partitions, and then only > because I've taken up video editing (where my typical 30 Min. video capture > will take up 2 GB all by itself). I just bought Baldur's Gate on the weekend and a full install takes 2600 megs. This will not fit on a 2G partition. This problem is only going to become more common. scott From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 13:58:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA14666 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:58:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23056; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:54:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:52:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22833; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22818; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:51:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-052.usc.edu [128.125.223.52]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id KAA06882; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:51:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990215104900.00af1390@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:51:50 -0800 To: Scott Campbell , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Mon, 15 Feb 1999 In-Reply-To: <36C869CF.B9A5F039@chamber.ca> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 01:39 PM 2/15/99 -0500, you wrote: >> Back when these things were designed...hey, Bill Gates thought 640K was >> more than enough for anyone, so you can imagine that in an era where a 10 >> GB hard drive was a very expensive option that 2 GB seemed to be impossible >> for anyone to have, let alone afford. And even then...why would anyone >> want such large partitions anyway? Personally it wasn't until recently >> that I personally had a true need for such large partitions, and then only >> because I've taken up video editing (where my typical 30 Min. video capture >> will take up 2 GB all by itself). > >I just bought Baldur's Gate on the weekend and a full install takes >2600 megs. This will not fit on a 2G partition. This problem is only >going to become more common. Of *course* it will--I was just citing a little history, contrasting it with the state of affairs that has developed largely just in the last year, and will continue to develop. Personally, I'd like to see Win98 overcome the limitation on a file's maximum size being "only" 2 GB--it would make video capturing & editing a lot easier. What is "Baldur's Gate" anyway? Some silly game? Why in the world does it take that much space? How many CD's does it come on (or is it a DVD)? - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 14:02:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA14755 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23490; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:57:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:55:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23303; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:55:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23266; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:55:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp159.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.159]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id MAA09750 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:55:09 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: Forcing X2 modulation (TP 770ED) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:54:04 -0600 Message-ID: <002901be5914$8eb99ea0$0200a8c0@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990215065307.00694f98@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> List-Unsubscribe: There is a way, and I think it's deep in this website ... poke around and see if it helps. http://808hi.com/56k/r-rnut-x2-3.htm -David > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Bell [mailto:bytehead@bellatlantic.net] > Sent: Monday, February 15, 1999 5:53 AM > To: ThinkPad List > Subject: Forcing X2 modulation (TP 770ED) > > > I am trying to force my TP770ED to connect using X2 to an X2/V90 capable > ISP provider. I connect w/ V.90, but at only 32000 (Ick). Using an > External USR X2/V.90 Sportster, I connect @ 48000 and 49333 using X2 > modulation (The Sportster defaults to this primarily). The TP modem > uses V.90 first. I need the register/command to force X2 only or X2 > primarily. > > > Mark Bell > ElectroSoft Consulting > Voice: 609-293-9426 > Fax : 609-293-9423 > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 14:15:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA14907 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:15:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24671; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:10:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:09:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24501; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:09:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from sarah.albany.edu (sarah.albany.edu [169.226.1.103]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24470; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:08:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from user (225.new-york-51-52rs.ny.dial-access.att.net [12.79.162.225]) by sarah.albany.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA08567; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:07:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902151907.OAA08567@sarah.albany.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Ken's E-mail Client 1998 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:05:39 -0500 To: , "Thinkpad LISTSERV" From: Ken Subject: RE: Forcing X2 modulation (TP 770ED) In-Reply-To: <002901be5914$8eb99ea0$0200a8c0@tigger> References: <3.0.1.32.19990215065307.00694f98@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:54 PM 2/15/99 -0600, David Talkington wrote: >There is a way, and I think it's deep in this website ... poke around and >see if it helps. >http://808hi.com/56k/r-rnut-x2-3.htm >> From: Mark Bell [mailto:bytehead@bellatlantic.net] >> Sent: Monday, February 15, 1999 5:53 AM >> Subject: Forcing X2 modulation (TP 770ED) >> I am trying to force my TP770ED to connect using X2 to an X2/V90 capable >> Mark Bell I had already explored that website, and it's not at all clear how to use any of the information there on the 770ED modem. Among other things, the page tells you to find out who "really" made your modem, by looking it up in an FCC database. But, my searches yielded no results. (Perhaps I was supposed to open my computer, as it suggested, to find the FCC ID of the modem (which seemed to be right on the bottom panel of the Thinkpad anyway).) The bottom line: Does anyone know what the command is to turn off v.90 on the >770ED; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:28:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25729; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:24:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:22:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25508; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:22:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from cask.force9.net (cask.force9.net [195.166.128.29]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25205; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:18:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 959 invoked from network); 15 Feb 1999 19:20:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coors.free-online.net) (212.56.108.80) by cask.force9.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 1999 19:20:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 11825 invoked from network); 15 Feb 1999 19:12:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sierpinski) (212.56.115.115) by coors.free-online.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 1999 19:12:07 -0000 Message-ID: <003e01be5917$98524180$737338d4@sierpinski> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Scott Campbell" , "Randal Whittle" , "TP List" Subject: [OT] Re: thinkpad digest for Mon, 15 Feb 1999 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:15:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: > What is "Baldur's Gate" anyway? Some silly game? Why in the world does If I recall rightly, Baldur's gate was the entrance to a former dwarf's mine in the Lord of the Rings. It almost consumed Gandalf, so of course it would consume resources:-) Actually, this game was apparently designed in England, and is considered the "great white hope" of the UK video game design industry - I first saw it mentioned in the financial section of the Guardian. - David From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 14:32:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA15167 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:32:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26257; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:27:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:26:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25981; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:26:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.134.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25948; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:25:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from gtwang@localhost (fake: stdin (HELO localhost) (ident: uid#20647@localhost)) by calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <366704-15626>; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:25:33 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:25:28 -0500 (EST) Sender: Gerald Wang From: Gerald Wang X-Sender: gtwang@calum To: Mark Bell cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Forcing X2 modulation (TP 770ED) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990215065307.00694f98@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Mark Bell wrote: > I am trying to force my TP770ED to connect using X2 to an X2/V90 capable > ISP provider. I connect w/ V.90, but at only 32000 (Ick). Using an > External USR X2/V.90 Sportster, I connect @ 48000 and 49333 using X2 > modulation (The Sportster defaults to this primarily). The TP modem > uses V.90 first. I need the register/command to force X2 only or X2 > primarily. Hi, the following was taken from www.56k.com. Note that disabling both x2 and V.90 drops you to 33.6k mode. | x2 on, V.90 off | x2 off, V.90 on | Both off | Both on* -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sportster** | S32=66 | S32=34 | S32=98 | S32=2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Courier | S58=32 | S58=1 | S58=33 | S58=0 * Using AT&F1 in the init string automatically enables both protocols. **Non-U.S. Robotics modems that support x2 generally use the same commands as the Sportster Hope this helps. Gerald From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 14:41:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA15267 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:41:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27082; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:37:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:35:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26852; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:35:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26836; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:35:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp136.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.136]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id NAA13726 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:35:06 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: Looking for 150Mhz CPU card for thinkpad 760ED Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:34:03 -0600 Message-ID: <000401be591a$24a0eae0$0200a8c0@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Can't possibly be worth the trouble or cost. The speed increase will be unnoticeable to the user, I'm sure. Maybe spend the bucks on RAM instead, if it's not already max? > -----Original Message----- > From: mark@houlihan.freeserve.co.uk > [mailto:mark@houlihan.freeserve.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, February 15, 1999 10:27 AM > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Looking for 150Mhz CPU card for thinkpad 760ED > > > Hi, > > I recently bought a second hand 760ED. Lovely little machine but it > is upgradeable from a 133 to 150 pentium. > > the cpu comes on a card and the IBM part no is: > > 82H8877 150MHz CPu card thinkpad 760E/ED Slim model > > If anyone has one or knows where to get them then please > mail me, thanks > > Mark. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 14:47:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA15336 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:47:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27801; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:43:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:41:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27578; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:41:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27533; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:41:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:40:52 -0500 Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hil-img-ims-2.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.7) with SMTP id OAA02445 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:40:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902151940.OAA02445@hil-img-ims-2.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:39:39 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: (770X) Any bad side-effects of converting C: to FAT32? List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:36:51 -0500, Jane Loyless wrote: >At 07:10 PM 2/14/99 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > >> There's no "theoretical" about it--I've done it many times and highly >>recommend Partition Magic. Even just one use saves such an enormous amount >>of time and trouble that its price is well worthwhile just for that very >>first use. > >I absolutely agree. Been using it since v1.0 and can't imagine being >without such a tool now. Whenever I've seen a review or heard people talk about it, I've seen how incredibly valuable it would be (especially when time>money). But except for the initial merging into one partition on my TP, which I couldn't do in the end, and which would have taken hours even if successful, I haven't been able to relate my particular needs to its capabilities. I'd love to have a dual Win95/Linux setup. But I have so little room on my 4GB that it really doesn't matter whether it's 2x2GB or 3Gb+1GB (the latter being Linux). Clearly I need to make more space, or come up with a different deployment strategy, but right now I use the TP _all_ the time (which is why I got the top-of-the-line processor+HD+screen 8 months ago, now discontinued :). I suspect I'll end up getting a cheapo desktop box (either 486 or slow Pentium) for Linux. Thanks for your comments. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 15:09:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA15718 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29819; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:05:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:03:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29578; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:03:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29563; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:03:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mmak (client-118-153.bellatlantic.net [151.198.118.153]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA16671; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:05:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <005801be591e$2dc48f60$9976c697@mmak> From: "Don" To: "Andrew Webber" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: Re: (770X) Any bad side-effects of converting C: to FAT32? Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:02:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >Whenever I've seen a review or heard people talk about it, I've seen >how incredibly valuable it would be (especially when time>money). But >except for the initial merging into one partition on my TP, which I >couldn't do in the end, and which would have taken hours even if >successful, I haven't been able to relate my particular needs to its >capabilities. Well you can merge it into one partition as long as you want fat 32. Partition Magic has other invaluable features as well. FOr instance I can move programs from one drive to another without reinstalling. You may not need PM but a good program to remember if the need should arise. >I'd love to have a dual Win95/Linux setup. But I have so little room >on my 4GB that it really doesn't matter whether it's 2x2GB or 3Gb+1GB >(the latter being Linux). Clearly I need to make more space, or come >up with a different deployment strategy, but right now I use the TP >_all_ the time (which is why I got the top-of-the-line >processor+HD+screen 8 months ago, now discontinued :). I suspect I'll >end up getting a cheapo desktop box (either 486 or slow Pentium) for >Linux. > >Thanks for your comments. > > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 15:23:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA15949 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:23:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00935; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:19:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:17:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00774; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:17:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00719; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:16:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from galileo.cris.com (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id PAA25465; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:16:54 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from localhost by galileo.cris.com (8.8.5) id PAA20192; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:16:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:16:53 -0500 (EST) From: Yong Whang X-Sender: Ywhang@galileo.cris.com To: ThinkPad Mailinglist Subject: Fuel Monitor for NT Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I have a TP 390. Does anybody know how I can get fuel gauge to show up in system tray in NT? I installed APM for 390, but I'm not sure what this actually does. What does NANS stand for, anyway? I'm running WinNT 4.0, SP3. (dual-booting with Win 98, everything is fine - shows fuel gauge, and even percentages seem correct.) Thanks for any info, Yong Whang ywhang@cris.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 15:35:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA16129 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:35:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01580; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:26:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:24:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01324; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:24:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (ftp.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01298; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:24:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmachule (142.90.120.3) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V5.1 Vn8g) with SMTP; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:23:28 -1300 From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: , Subject: Re: Looking for 150Mhz CPU card for thinkpad 760ED Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:24:50 -0800 Message-ID: <01be5921$3d3922a0$03785a8e@pmachule> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: And the reason you want to go slower is ??? Re the Pent 150 upgrade ...are you sure it was ever made available ? They did have available a P133 upgrade that was withdrawn many moons ago . The part number you gave is valid though . http://servicepac.mainz.ibm.com/eprmhtml/epr2c/5329.htm A P150 would gain you essentially nothing unless we are talking about very tight code that fits in the L1 cache . In the vast majority of benchmarks, a P150 "SYSTEM" is slower,or the same as P133 . Even if I got one for free , I would not do the major amount of work to swap these ....and I know how to do it (grin ). ..peter.. Who might be interested, in a "FREE" P150 module for the P120 760EL series since here it make some sense as the L's do NOT have a 256K cache . IBM is so stupid sometimes ......... . -----Original Message----- From: mark@houlihan.freeserve.co.uk To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 1:27 PM Subject: Looking for 150Mhz CPU card for thinkpad 760ED Hi, I recently bought a second hand 760ED. Lovely little machine but it is upgradeable from a 133 to 150 pentium. the cpu comes on a card and the IBM part no is: 82H8877 150MHz CPu card thinkpad 760E/ED Slim model If anyone has one or knows where to get them then please mail me, thanks Mark. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 16:14:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA16566 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:14:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04869; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:06:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04500; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:06:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from ariel.jimani.com (IDENT:lorenzo@[207.66.81.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04461; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:06:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (lorenzo@localhost) by ariel.jimani.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA02927 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:07:09 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:07:08 -0700 (MST) From: Lorenzo Pollock Reply-To: Lorenzo Pollock To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I have a 760XL for which I have acquired a new 4 Gb hard drive. I have noted over the past year the number of people who have had trouble exceeding a 2 Gb partition setup because of the IBM software, hibernation, etc. Questions: #1 Is it possible to purchase a new image disk that allows FAT 32, or that allows using more than 2 GB that will work with the 760xl? #2 Has anybody used Partition Magic or Partition It or Disk Commander or other partitioning software without screwing up all the other IBM software. #3 What happens if you upgrade from W-95 to W-98 after you have used the Thinkpad image disk? How difficult is the effort to make it work? Do the IBM downloads help convert to a larger partition. When I contacted IBM, they told me the didn't recommend Windows 98 for this machine and couldn't recommend changing from the 2 Gb partition. It just doesn't seem like it should be so difficult. I also read a post about three weeks ago by somebody that has a software upgrade service on CD-ROM that would save a lot of time and effort from downloading all that new version stuff. Has anybody used that service? Thanks for any help you can offer. Lorenzo From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 16:19:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA16625 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:19:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05543; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:16:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:14:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05395; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from ariel.jimani.com (IDENT:lorenzo@[207.66.81.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05363; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:14:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (lorenzo@localhost) by ariel.jimani.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA02954 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:15:25 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:15:25 -0700 (MST) From: Lorenzo Pollock To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Looking for 150Mhz CPU card for thinkpad 760ED In-Reply-To: <01be5921$3d3922a0$03785a8e@pmachule> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Even if you upgrade, you are still using the older bus if my recollections are accurate. I think that IBM didn't switch to the faster bus until the Pentium 166 Mhz... so a switch from the 133 to 150 would be negligable. I think the memory would not change either... isn't that machine limited to 48 Mgs? I had one and loved it, but upgraded to the Pentium 166 (XL) which really wasn't much faster than the 133... but it allows 80 mgs of RAM which has been a significant difference on the net. I don't think you would get a 256 K cache out of it either. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 16:31:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA16780 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:31:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06730; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:27:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:25:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06434; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:25:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from ariel.jimani.com (IDENT:lorenzo@[207.66.81.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06420; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:25:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (lorenzo@localhost) by ariel.jimani.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA02976; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:25:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:25:32 -0700 (MST) From: Lorenzo Pollock To: Maxie cc: Chris D , ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: [TP760] Replacement screens In-Reply-To: <36C81277.A3C8797E@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: And do you have the address or url for "Nuts and Volts?" > Nuts and Volts mag has a few advertsiers that offer replacement tft notebook > screen. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 16:33:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA16803 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:33:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06952; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:29:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:27:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06646; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:27:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06590; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:27:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.18.237]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990215212643.KBDI18996@770>; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:26:43 +0000 Message-ID: <36C890F7.467B@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:26:15 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lorenzo Pollock CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Looking for 150Mhz CPU card for thinkpad 760ED References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: 760ED can do 104 mb ram Lorenzo Pollock wrote: > > Even if you upgrade, you are still using the older bus if my > recollections are accurate. I think that IBM didn't switch to > the faster bus until the Pentium 166 Mhz... so a switch from > the 133 to 150 would be negligable. I think the memory would not > change either... isn't that machine limited to 48 Mgs? I had > one and loved it, but upgraded to the Pentium 166 (XL) which > really wasn't much faster than the 133... but it allows 80 mgs > of RAM which has been a significant difference on the net. > > I don't think you would get a 256 K cache out of it either. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 16:53:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA17028 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:53:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08146; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:41:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07894; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:41:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07827; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:39:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-144.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.144]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA22801 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:39:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990215164438.009e7e00@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:44:38 -0500 To: TP List From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Mon, 15 Feb 1999 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990215104900.00af1390@rcf.usc.edu> References: <36C869CF.B9A5F039@chamber.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:51 AM 2/15/99 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > What is "Baldur's Gate" anyway? Some silly game? Why in the world does >it take that much space? How many CD's does it come on (or is it a DVD)? Probably Interplay's best game ever made based on the AD&D universe. 5 CDs and it will most likely be Game/RPG of the year by several magazines. Definitely not, "silly." You can do a complete install or a partial install. ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 17:32:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA17516 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:32:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11303; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:27:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:25:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11001; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:25:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10973; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:25:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic35.fbtc.net [204.2.11.35]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA07128; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:25:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <012201be5931$8af47a20$230b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "Randal Whittle" , "Andrew Webber" , "TP List" Subject: Re: (770X) Any bad side-effects of converting C: to FAT32? Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:21:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I just want to add my support to the suggestion about using Partition Magic. I've been using it for some time on 3 computers, including 2 Thinkpads. It works just great. They warn you to back up before you use it, but I'm always fairly well backed up anyway so I ignore that and I use it pretty casually and often. I've never seen any trace of any kind of problem with it. Barry -----Original Message----- From: Randal Whittle To: Andrew Webber ; TP List Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 8:36 PM Subject: Re: (770X) Any bad side-effects of converting C: to FAT32? >At 09:12 PM 2/14/99 -0800, you wrote: >>>> I'd love to free up some room on my C: drive, as it came from the >>>> factory almost 3/4 full. If I convert to FAT32, I can reduce my cluster >>>> size and regain a bunch of space on this drive. I did see a couple of >>>> downsides to this on the IBM website, involving some of the recovery CDs >>>> being unable to work with a FAT32 partition for C:. >>>> >>>> Has anyone done this conversion? How well did it work out for you? > >>Okay, this isn't exactly what you asked about, but it's my experience. >>I have a TP600 with 4GB HD. It's partitioned into two 2GB partitions. >>I wanted to make one big one (back when I first got it). > >>Called IBM again and got someone different, more senior I think. _He_ >>told me that partitions >2GB (which I think implies FAT32, right?) are >>not supported. Something to do with the IBM-DOS sitting under Windows >>95 not supporting it. > > FAT is limited to 2 GB partitions using its largest cluster size (32K, I >think)--its just a mathematical fact. That's why FAT32 was created, to >handle larger partitions. OS/2 with its HPFS and NT with its NTFS are more >robust filing systems that didn't have the 2 GB limitation, but FAT always >has (actually, way back when, FAT12 was the norm, which had a smaller >limitation). > > Back when these things were designed...hey, Bill Gates thought 640K was >more than enough for anyone, so you can imagine that in an era where a 10 >GB hard drive was a very expensive option that 2 GB seemed to be impossible >for anyone to have, let alone afford. And even then...why would anyone >want such large partitions anyway? Personally it wasn't until recently >that I personally had a true need for such large partitions, and then only >because I've taken up video editing (where my typical 30 Min. video capture >will take up 2 GB all by itself). > >> He gave me some tips I could use to do it myself >>in a very ugly way (using the Win95 from my desktop machine at one >>point, I think). I did all that and two hours later, nothing. At that >>point I re-installed from the Recovery CD and got used to C: and D: :). > > Partition Magic (www.powerquest.com) would save both of you a lot of grief. > > It will allow you to resize, move, change to FAT32 (and back to FAT), etc. >all without messing up your data and will do so pretty quickly. > >- Randy Whittle > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 17:36:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA17562 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:36:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11745; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:30:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:28:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11483; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:28:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11435; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:28:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic35.fbtc.net [204.2.11.35]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA08149; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:28:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <012701be5931$f6a17ac0$230b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "Andrew Webber" , "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Subject: Re: (770X) Any bad side-effects of converting C: to FAT32? Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:24:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Partition Magic lets you combine or resize partitions without removing their contents, unless you're reducing one so that it won't be large enough to hold it's contents. It lets you do this with either 16 bit or 32 bit partitions and it will switch a partion from 16 to 32 bits or back to 16 with its contents in place. Barry -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Webber To: ThinkPad Mailinglist Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 11:47 PM Subject: Re: (770X) Any bad side-effects of converting C: to FAT32? >On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:36:37 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: > >> Back when these things were designed...hey, Bill Gates thought 640K was >>more than enough for anyone, so you can imagine that in an era where a 10 >>GB hard drive was a very expensive option that 2 GB seemed to be impossible >>for anyone to have, let alone afford. And even then...why would anyone >>want such large partitions anyway? Personally it wasn't until recently >>that I personally had a true need for such large partitions, and then only >>because I've taken up video editing (where my typical 30 Min. video capture >>will take up 2 GB all by itself). > >I remember when the limit increased from 32Mb to 512Mb (DOS 4? DOS >5?). These days, the higher limit is as much for convenience as >anything else. Say I want to install a new 14GB hard drive (okay, I >can't fit one in the machine). Do I really want drive letters C: D: >E: F: G: H: I:? > > >>> He gave me some tips I could use to do it myself >>>in a very ugly way (using the Win95 from my desktop machine at one >>>point, I think). I did all that and two hours later, nothing. At that >>>point I re-installed from the Recovery CD and got used to C: and D: :). >> >> Partition Magic (www.powerquest.com) would save both of you a lot of grief. >> >> It will allow you to resize, move, change to FAT32 (and back to FAT), etc. >>all without messing up your data and will do so pretty quickly. > >I'm not convinced of that, based on my experience (although it doesn't >mean you're wrong). I had no trouble re-formatting the drive, really >all that was on it was the delivered configuration and a couple of apps >I'd just installed. This seemed to be a more basic limitation, kind of >like running DOS 5 and being limited to 512Mb (although I put a 540Mb >in my old 386 and used special software to get the extra 28Mb). I >think. His suggestion involved using some files from my desktop >Win95OSR2 in place of some from the TP's. > >At this point I probably wouldn't combine the C: and D: because there's >too much on them. But I'd love to hear from someone with a TP600 (233 >or 266) who's actually done this rather than knowing it "should" work. >(And I mean no disrespect by that Randy, it's what both I and the first >IBM tech thought too, and I've received email from other people -- but >not one who's actually _done_ it). > >Thanks for your comments. > >andrew >------ >Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] >SGML Mercenaries >"Since 1990" >1883 Featherston Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 6P6 >Phone 613-523-2237 / Fax 613-523-6893 > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 17:37:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA17578 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:37:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11271; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:27:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:25:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10937; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:25:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from linkline.com (elantra.linkline.com [207.67.165.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10898; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:25:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pentiumii300 [207.137.59.65] by linkline.com (SMTPD32-4.07) id ADF19A001BC; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:21:37 PST Message-Id: <4.1.19990215142149.00bf5170@mail.linkline.com> X-Sender: dunn@mail.linkline.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:25:22 -0800 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: David Dunn Subject: FS: TP760 150Mhz, 2.1gig, 32MB Ram, docking station, Port case Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: IBM Think Pad 760E, 150mHz Pentium with 2 gig hd, 32mb ram, 33.6 int. modem, tilt keyboard, 12.1 inch active matrix screen, Windows 98, docking station with ethernet card/5 =BD=94 bay. New x 3 months, giving near complet= e warranty. Perfect condition! This is my wifes computer and she quit her job after 3months and so we are selling it. Thanks, David Dunn From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 17:40:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA17645 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:40:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12500; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:35:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12188; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:35:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12127; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:34:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic35.fbtc.net [204.2.11.35]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA10229; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:34:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <014401be5932$dea5d780$230b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: , Subject: Re: Looking for 150Mhz CPU card for thinkpad 760ED Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:30:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I'm not sure this applies in your case but I've read that the 150 MHz cpu uses a 50 MHz bus and the 133 MHz cpu uses a 66 MHz bus and is therefore faster overall. In your case where you're just changing a card on the motherboard that might not affect the bus, but I think I would look into it before you do it. Barry -----Original Message----- From: mark@houlihan.freeserve.co.uk To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 10:26 AM Subject: Looking for 150Mhz CPU card for thinkpad 760ED >Hi, > >I recently bought a second hand 760ED. Lovely little machine but it >is upgradeable from a 133 to 150 pentium. > >the cpu comes on a card and the IBM part no is: > >82H8877 150MHz CPu card thinkpad 760E/ED Slim model > >If anyone has one or knows where to get them then please >mail me, thanks > >Mark. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 17:48:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA17735 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:48:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13084; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:42:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:41:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12916; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:41:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.41]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12902; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:41:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from 113.new-york-65-70rs.ny.dial-access.att.net ([12.79.53.113]) by mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990215224032.FBDB28127@113.new-york-65-70rs.ny.dial-access.att.net> for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:40:32 +0000 From: r.lawrence@worldnet.att.net (Robert Lawrence) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: [770ED]: Baldur's Gate -- requirements, etc. Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:40:20 GMT Message-ID: <36cba0c4.10097251@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: I've become intrigued by recent references in this group to Baldur's Gate. I'm running Win95 on my ThinkPad 770ED. I see from the FAQ for this game that among the requirements are DirectX 5, a DirectX certified sound card, and a DirectX certified video card with at least 2MB of video RAM. I gather, from running DXTOOL.EXE under C:\PROGRAM =46ILES\directx\setup, that DirectX 5 is installed on my machine. However, I'm not sure whether the 770ED has a DirectX certified sound card and a DirectX certified video card. Can anyone tell me whether this is the case? More generally, I would appreciate any comments concerning how well Baldur's Gate runs on the ThinkPad 770ED, and issues that I should be aware of. Bob Lawrence From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 19:03:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA18745 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:03:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16994; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:57:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16700; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:57:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (ftp.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16665; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:57:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmachule (142.90.120.3) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V5.1 Vn8g) with SMTP for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:57:20 -1300 From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: Subject: Fw: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:58:44 -0800 Message-ID: <01be593f$1e5bd8a0$03785a8e@pmachule> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: We played with the so called "image" disk a couple of weeks ago . It did not work . 760XL , 760E's Standard Fat16 formated disk. Even tried a non formated disk Same error that someone else reported on this newsgroup . "Could not expand" ..or something alike that . Not very impressive . IBM gives full details on upgrading 760E 's to Win98 on their web page . The 760XL should be the same...but simplier . They do mention that they are still working on a Fat 32 Hibernation file. Given that other companies have it out ....what's the problem ? ..peter.. Since all the usefull IBM utilities are downloadable, we stopped playing with the "image" disk. -----Original Message----- From: Lorenzo Pollock To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 6:07 PM Subject: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 >I have a 760XL for which I have acquired a new >4 Gb hard drive. I have noted over the past year >the number of people who have had trouble exceeding >a 2 Gb partition setup because of the IBM software, hibernation, >etc. Questions: > >#1 Is it possible to purchase a new image disk that > allows FAT 32, or that allows using more than 2 GB > that will work with the 760xl? > >#2 Has anybody used Partition Magic or Partition It > or Disk Commander or other partitioning software > without screwing up all the other IBM software. > >#3 What happens if you upgrade from W-95 to W-98 > after you have used the Thinkpad image disk? > How difficult is the effort to make it work? Do > the IBM downloads help convert to a larger partition. > >When I contacted IBM, they told me the didn't recommend Windows 98 >for this machine and couldn't recommend changing from the 2 Gb >partition. It just doesn't seem like it should be so difficult. > >I also read a post about three weeks ago by somebody that has a >software upgrade service on CD-ROM that would save a lot of time >and effort from downloading all that new version stuff. Has anybody >used that service? > >Thanks for any help you can offer. > > >Lorenzo > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 19:04:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA18764 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:04:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16990; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:59:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:57:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16629; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:57:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (ftp.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16608; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmachule (142.90.120.3) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V5.1 Vn8g) with SMTP; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:56:55 -1300 From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: "Barry Marks" , , Subject: Re: Looking for 150Mhz CPU card for thinkpad 760ED Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:58:18 -0800 Message-ID: <01be593f$0f338940$03785a8e@pmachule> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: No ;-} P150 uses the 60 Mhz bus 60 * 2.5 . But the fact that MB is run at 60Mhz not 66, does affect system performance . Also fractional clock ratios do not work that well. ie 2.5 , 3.5 etc. The cache is part of the module . I assume the Clock is also part of the module ? .peter -----Original Message----- From: Barry Marks To: mark@houlihan.freeserve.co.uk ; THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 7:36 PM Subject: Re: Looking for 150Mhz CPU card for thinkpad 760ED >I'm not sure this applies in your case but I've read that the 150 MHz cpu >uses a 50 MHz bus and the 133 MHz cpu uses a 66 MHz bus and is therefore >faster overall. In your case where you're just changing a card on the >motherboard that might not affect the bus, but I think I would look into it >before you do it. > >Barry > >-----Original Message----- >From: mark@houlihan.freeserve.co.uk >To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 10:26 AM >Subject: Looking for 150Mhz CPU card for thinkpad 760ED > > >>Hi, >> >>I recently bought a second hand 760ED. Lovely little machine but it >>is upgradeable from a 133 to 150 pentium. >> >>the cpu comes on a card and the IBM part no is: >> >>82H8877 150MHz CPu card thinkpad 760E/ED Slim model >> >>If anyone has one or knows where to get them then please >>mail me, thanks >> >>Mark. >> > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 20:14:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA19674 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:14:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20516; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:07:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:04:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20212; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:04:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20190; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibm ([12.79.15.198]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990216010412.BXIC11074@ibm>; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 01:04:12 +0000 Message-ID: <36C8C2E4.76A7@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:59:16 -0500 From: Bruce Markowtz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Fw: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 References: <01be593f$1e5bd8a0$03785a8e@pmachule> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Now wait a minute. My 770ED uses a FAT32 (W95OSR2) hibernation file with no problems! peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP wrote: > > We played with the so called "image" disk a couple of weeks ago . > It did not work . 760XL , 760E's > Standard Fat16 formated disk. > Even tried a non formated disk > Same error that someone else reported on this newsgroup . > "Could not expand" ..or something alike that . > Not very impressive . > > IBM gives full details on upgrading 760E 's to Win98 on their web page . > The 760XL should be the same...but simplier . > They do mention that they are still working on a Fat 32 Hibernation file. > > Given that other companies have it out ....what's the problem ? > > ..peter.. > > Since all the usefull IBM utilities are downloadable, > we stopped playing with the "image" disk. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lorenzo Pollock > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 6:07 PM > Subject: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 > > >I have a 760XL for which I have acquired a new > >4 Gb hard drive. I have noted over the past year > >the number of people who have had trouble exceeding > >a 2 Gb partition setup because of the IBM software, hibernation, > >etc. Questions: > > > >#1 Is it possible to purchase a new image disk that > > allows FAT 32, or that allows using more than 2 GB > > that will work with the 760xl? > > > >#2 Has anybody used Partition Magic or Partition It > > or Disk Commander or other partitioning software > > without screwing up all the other IBM software. > > > >#3 What happens if you upgrade from W-95 to W-98 > > after you have used the Thinkpad image disk? > > How difficult is the effort to make it work? Do > > the IBM downloads help convert to a larger partition. > > > >When I contacted IBM, they told me the didn't recommend Windows 98 > >for this machine and couldn't recommend changing from the 2 Gb > >partition. It just doesn't seem like it should be so difficult. > > > >I also read a post about three weeks ago by somebody that has a > >software upgrade service on CD-ROM that would save a lot of time > >and effort from downloading all that new version stuff. Has anybody > >used that service? > > > >Thanks for any help you can offer. > > > > > >Lorenzo > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 15 20:27:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA19823 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:27:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21262; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:22:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:21:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21134; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:21:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA (ftp.Triumf.CA [142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21120; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:21:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmachule (142.90.120.3) by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V5.1 Vn8g) with SMTP; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:20:57 -1300 From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: CC: Subject: Re: Fw: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:22:21 -0800 Message-ID: <01be594a$cd165f40$03785a8e@pmachule> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: Hmmm Do you just have one partition ? If you do this is most interesting . What IBM had done AFAIK was do two partitons, one Fat 32 the other Fat16. The Fat 16 held the Hibernation file. I'd like to be wrong ;-} ..peter.. Subject: Re: Fw: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 >Now wait a minute. My 770ED uses a FAT32 (W95OSR2) hibernation file >with no problems! > >peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP wrote: IBM gives full details on upgrading 760E 's to Win98 on their web page . The 760XL should be the same...but simplier . They do mention that they are still working on a Fat 32 Hibernation file. Given that other companies have it out ....what's the problem ? >> From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 16 00:20:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA22046 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:20:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28987; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:16:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:15:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28845; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:15:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28766; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:12:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-149.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.149]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA09055; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:12:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990216001757.009de3a0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:17:57 -0500 To: r.lawrence@worldnet.att.net (Robert Lawrence), THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: [770ED]: Baldur's Gate -- requirements, etc. In-Reply-To: <36cba0c4.10097251@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:40 PM 2/15/99 GMT, Robert Lawrence wrote: >I've become intrigued by recent references in this group to Baldur's >Gate. > >I'm running Win95 on my ThinkPad 770ED. > >I see from the FAQ for this game that among the requirements are >DirectX 5, a DirectX certified sound card, and a DirectX certified >video card with at least 2MB of video RAM. > >I gather, from running DXTOOL.EXE under C:\PROGRAM >FILES\directx\setup, that DirectX 5 is installed on my machine. >However, I'm not sure whether the 770ED has a DirectX certified sound >card and a DirectX certified video card. Can anyone tell me whether >this is the case? > >More generally, I would appreciate any comments concerning how well >Baldur's Gate runs on the ThinkPad 770ED, and issues that I should be >aware of. Baldur's gate runs quite well on a 770ED. I have a friend who is running it on a P133 and it is playable. On a 770ED, it runs pretty much close to flawless. On my P2-400, it is nirvana (probably because of the 21" monitor). My 770ED is running Win98, DX6, 128megs of RAM, DVD (95495AU). ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 16 02:21:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA23276 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 02:21:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03678; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 02:18:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 02:17:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03566; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 02:17:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (mailhost2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03553; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 02:17:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from johan (cs118-10.fsmodem.washington.edu [140.142.181.113]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id XAA30760 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:17:07 -0800 From: "Johan Isak Suni Hansen" To: "thinkpad" Subject: DVD Regions Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:14:12 -0800 Message-ID: <000801be597b$f3ff5900$604a5f80@hitl.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I bought my ThinkPad 770x (1280x1024) in Denmark and I played a few DVD movies (Region 2) on it - worked fine. Now I'm in Seattle (and will be here for a year) and after having reinstalled Windows 98 (for other reasons) I tried to play an American (Region 1) and I got an error message saying that this Region DVD couldn't be played. And now I can't even play my old Region 2 DVD's. Does anybody know what I can do to make this thing play Region 1 movies? Where is the Region information stored anyway? I've heard something about a patch, which would make it possible to play all region DVD's but I don't know more than that. Thanks, Johan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 16 03:21:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA23666 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 03:21:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09037; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 03:18:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 03:16:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08687; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 03:16:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08667; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 03:16:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from amlaptop ([203.96.101.165]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990216081714.XQBA2899623.mta2-rme@amlaptop> for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:17:14 +1300 Message-ID: <000c01be5984$539ff6a0$a56560cb@amlaptop> From: "Andreas Michaelides" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: Fw: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:14:06 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: YOU ARE WRONG!! I don't know what IBM is on sometimes. When I got my thinkpad (770-1AU / 9549-1AU / win 95 SR2) early last year, the first thing I did was rearange the partitions on the 5 gig drive. I converted ALL of them to FAT32 initially. The hibernation did and has always worked flawlessly. I have since played with NT in a seperate primary partition and dual booted it, NT even used the hibernation file on my hidden FAT32 partition. I read on the web site later that this wasn't ment to work ;-) I laughed. I now have win98 with only FAT32 partitions and no problems. It works and always has with my machine. Didn't need bios upgrades. Didn't need win98 or anything. Other machines may be different of course. Later, Andreas!! :-) >Hmmm >Do you just have one partition ? >If you do this is most interesting . >What IBM had done AFAIK was do two partitons, one Fat 32 the other Fat16. >The Fat 16 held the Hibernation file. >I'd like to be wrong ;-} > >..peter.. > >Subject: Re: Fw: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 > > >>Now wait a minute. My 770ED uses a FAT32 (W95OSR2) hibernation file >>with no problems! >> From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 16 03:27:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA23701 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 03:27:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09664; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 03:23:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 03:23:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09556; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 03:23:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09470; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 03:22:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-149.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.149]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA17227; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 03:21:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990216032650.009e3a00@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 03:26:50 -0500 To: "Andreas Michaelides" , "Thinkpad" From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Fw: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 In-Reply-To: <000c01be5984$539ff6a0$a56560cb@amlaptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I concur. Hibernation works fine on our FAT32 only 770's and EDs here. At 09:14 PM 2/16/99 +1300, Andreas Michaelides wrote: >YOU ARE WRONG!! > >I don't know what IBM is on sometimes. When I got my thinkpad (770-1AU / >9549-1AU / win 95 SR2) early last year, the first thing I did was rearange >the partitions on the 5 gig drive. I converted ALL of them to FAT32 >initially. The hibernation did and has always worked flawlessly. I have >since played with NT in a seperate primary partition and dual booted it, NT >even used the hibernation file on my hidden FAT32 partition. I read on the >web site later that this wasn't ment to work ;-) I laughed. > >I now have win98 with only FAT32 partitions and no problems. > >It works and always has with my machine. Didn't need bios upgrades. Didn't >need win98 or anything. > >Other machines may be different of course. >>Hmmm >>Do you just have one partition ? >>If you do this is most interesting . >>What IBM had done AFAIK was do two partitons, one Fat 32 the other Fat16. >>The Fat 16 held the Hibernation file. >>I'd like to be wrong ;-} >> >>..peter.. >> >>Subject: Re: Fw: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 >> >> >>>Now wait a minute. My 770ED uses a FAT32 (W95OSR2) hibernation file >>>with no problems! >>> > > > ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 16 10:28:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA26792 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:28:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02194; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:24:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:21:48 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01876; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id KAA16850 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:21:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14204; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:13:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from holygrail (mg139-015.ricochet.net [204.179.139.15]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA12231 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:13:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <00c501be5906$7244cd20$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Fuel gauge sucking resources... Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:12:57 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >From the Utility Disk Release notes: <4.13> -(New) Support for ThinkPad 770X and 600E. -(New) Support for the installation option for ThinkPad Configuration for DOS. -(Fix) Fuel-Gauge program consumes GUI resource while charging. -(Fix) Fuel-Gauge program displays an error message when F1 key is pressed. Look under "Utility Diskette for..." for your OS. David --- David W. Taylor, Detayls detayls@sprynet.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 16 10:43:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA27000 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03298; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:39:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03156; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:39:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgi1.tm.net.my (provision.tm.net.my [202.188.95.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03126; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:39:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from tm.net.my ([202.188.23.21]) by cgi1.tm.net.my (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with ESMTP id <19990216153826.BKTU3828@tm.net.my> for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 23:38:26 +0800 Message-ID: <36C99063.34DCEBEB@tm.net.my> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 23:36:04 +0800 From: Zilim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailinglist Subject: Latest 4.13 ThinkPad Utility Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I've just upgraded ThinkPad Utility to the latest -> 4.13a. Now, there's a problem. I used to be able to just startup the fuel gauge at the task bar. Which is at the same area as the time indicator. But the latest version of fuel gauge also appears in the window. When I close the one that is on the window, the one on the task bar closes too. I tried all the options available. Yet when my system reboots, both fuel gauge on the task bar and on the windows appears. I have to manually shut the one on the window by pressing Fn+F2. I like the Fuel Gauge cause it could show me the approx. time remaining on my battery. The previous version is able to do this. Either I'm doing something wrong or this is the way the latest version is supposed to be. Could anyone help? Thanks Peter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 16 11:10:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA27312 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05287; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:06:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:06:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05133; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:06:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05119; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:06:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-091.usc.edu [128.125.223.91]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id IAA06126; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:05:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990216075814.00aec510@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:06:04 -0800 To: Zilim , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Latest 4.13 ThinkPad Utility In-Reply-To: <36C99063.34DCEBEB@tm.net.my> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:36 PM 2/16/99 +0800, you wrote: >Now, there's a problem. I used to be able to just startup the fuel >gauge at the task bar. Which is at the same area as the time >indicator. But the latest version of fuel gauge also appears in the >window. When I close the one that is on the window, the one on the task >bar closes too. I tried all the options available. Yet when my system >reboots, both fuel gauge on the task bar and on the windows appears. I >have to manually shut the one on the window by pressing Fn+F2. I like >the Fuel Gauge cause it could show me the approx. time remaining on my >battery. The previous version is able to do this. Either I'm doing >something wrong or this is the way the latest version is supposed to be. I'm not *entirely* certain I have your question quite right, but if it is what I *think* it is, then you're getting 2 (similar, but not identical) fuel gauge icons in the task bar/system tray? One of them might be Windows' own fuel thingy, which you can make go away by going into the control panel, power, and telling it to *not* show the icon in the system tray. That will eliminate the confusing 2nd icon that you don't want to see. That leaves you with the Thinkpad Fuel Guage. When you boot, that shows up on your screen. Just Fn+F2 to make it disappear. Anytime you want to make it re-appear, either Fn+F2 again, or click on the fuel gauge icon in the system tray. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 16 11:18:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA27406 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:18:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05894; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:15:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:14:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05789; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:14:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05775; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:14:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from holygrail (mg128-064.ricochet.net [204.179.128.64]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA00754; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:14:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <005e01be59c7$74880db0$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Zilim" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: Latest 4.13 ThinkPad Utility Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:14:37 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This behavior appears to have changed. I have noticed that you have to dismiss the "window" with fn-f2 every time. It used to be possible to have only the taskbar gauge but that seems to have changed now. David -----Original Message----- From: Zilim To: ThinkPad Mailinglist Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 7:40 AM Subject: Latest 4.13 ThinkPad Utility >I've just upgraded ThinkPad Utility to the latest -> 4.13a. > >Now, there's a problem. I used to be able to just startup the fuel >gauge at the task bar. Which is at the same area as the time >indicator. But the latest version of fuel gauge also appears in the >window. When I close the one that is on the window, the one on the task >bar closes too. I tried all the options available. Yet when my system >reboots, both fuel gauge on the task bar and on the windows appears. I >have to manually shut the one on the window by pressing Fn+F2. I like >the Fuel Gauge cause it could show me the approx. time remaining on my >battery. The previous version is able to do this. Either I'm doing >something wrong or this is the way the latest version is supposed to be. > >Could anyone help? > >Thanks > >Peter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 16 11:44:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA27825 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07575; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:40:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:38:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07347; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:38:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns.us.fortis.com (ns.us.fortis.com [167.79.91.99]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07293; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:38:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns.us.fortis.com (root@localhost) by ns.us.fortis.com with ESMTP id KAA22383 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:42:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from mime.us.fortis.com (mime.us.fortis.com [167.79.12.2]) by ns.us.fortis.com with ESMTP id KAA22369 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:42:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from US.FORTIS.COM (n-01gwgate01.us.fortis.com [167.79.36.4]) by mime.us.fortis.com (Integralis SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:35:42 -0600 Received: from WOODBYGATE-Message_Server by US.FORTIS.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:32:07 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:38:42 -0600 From: Mike Hunziker To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Mon, 15 Feb 1999 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: > What is "Baldur's Gate" anyway? Some silly game? Why in the >world does it take that much space? How many CD's does it come on >(or is it a DVD)? >- Randy Whittle If it were silly and that big nobody would ever buy it. It comes on 5 cd's and it is a game....not silly though. **************************************************************** Please Note The information in this E-mail message is legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you, the reader of this message, are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you should not further disseminate, distribute, or forward this E-mail message. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender. Thank you ***************************************************************** From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 16 13:44:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA29434 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:44:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14820; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:41:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:39:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14580; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:39:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14543; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:39:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic80.fbtc.net [204.2.11.80]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA17801; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:39:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00b401be59db$1b828100$500b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "Lorenzo Pollock" , Subject: Re: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:35:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: ----Original Message----- From: Lorenzo Pollock To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 3:07 PM Subject: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 >#2 Has anybody used Partition Magic or Partition It > or Disk Commander or other partitioning software > without screwing up all the other IBM software. I've used Partition Magic on my 380ED and my 365XD. I've used it to create an additional partition and to delete that additional partition. I've gone back and forth from 32bit fat to 16 bit fat. The reason is that I have some programs that won't run on a 32 bit fat system. Empire Deluxe is one and a cd of graphic programming books is the other. Also a few things that I care less about so I just make room for them as I need it. I've never had the slightest bit of trouble on either Thinkpad, or on my desktop. It's always done everything I expect and nothing ever seems to have problems. I haven't used the application mover that was mentioned in an earlier post. I had forgotton about that. I think I'll soon try it out. By the way, one use I might have for the app mover is to move in installed copy of Matlab student edition from my laptop to my desktop, hopefully through a computer link. Do any of you with experience with app mover have any idea if this is possible? I'm not trying to pirate something. I bought the software in a used software store, so I get no support from Matlab, and I lost the cd while moving. Barry From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 16 13:56:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA29595 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:56:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15755; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:52:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:51:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15584; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:51:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15549; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:51:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic80.fbtc.net [204.2.11.80]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA21419; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:50:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <012701be59dc$bbf008a0$500b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: , "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" Cc: Subject: Re: Fw: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:46:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: It can be W95OSR2 and still be 16 bit. The option for 32 bit fat became available with R2. Barry -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Markowtz To: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Fw: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 >Now wait a minute. My 770ED uses a FAT32 (W95OSR2) hibernation file >with no problems! > >peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP wrote: >> >> We played with the so called "image" disk a couple of weeks ago . >> It did not work . 760XL , 760E's >> Standard Fat16 formated disk. >> Even tried a non formated disk >> Same error that someone else reported on this newsgroup . >> "Could not expand" ..or something alike that . >> Not very impressive . >> >> IBM gives full details on upgrading 760E 's to Win98 on their web page . >> The 760XL should be the same...but simplier . >> They do mention that they are still working on a Fat 32 Hibernation file. >> >> Given that other companies have it out ....what's the problem ? >> >> ..peter.. >> >> Since all the usefull IBM utilities are downloadable, >> we stopped playing with the "image" disk. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lorenzo Pollock >> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >> Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 6:07 PM >> Subject: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 >> >> >I have a 760XL for which I have acquired a new >> >4 Gb hard drive. I have noted over the past year >> >the number of people who have had trouble exceeding >> >a 2 Gb partition setup because of the IBM software, hibernation, >> >etc. Questions: >> > >> >#1 Is it possible to purchase a new image disk that >> > allows FAT 32, or that allows using more than 2 GB >> > that will work with the 760xl? >> > >> >#2 Has anybody used Partition Magic or Partition It >> > or Disk Commander or other partitioning software >> > without screwing up all the other IBM software. >> > >> >#3 What happens if you upgrade from W-95 to W-98 >> > after you have used the Thinkpad image disk? >> > How difficult is the effort to make it work? Do >> > the IBM downloads help convert to a larger partition. >> > >> >When I contacted IBM, they told me the didn't recommend Windows 98 >> >for this machine and couldn't recommend changing from the 2 Gb >> >partition. It just doesn't seem like it should be so difficult. >> > >> >I also read a post about three weeks ago by somebody that has a >> >software upgrade service on CD-ROM that would save a lot of time >> >and effort from downloading all that new version stuff. Has anybody >> >used that service? >> > >> >Thanks for any help you can offer. >> > >> > >> >Lorenzo >> > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 16 15:14:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA01036 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:14:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21288; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:09:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:07:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21056; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:07:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from falk.c2i.net (pop1.c2i.net [193.216.69.98]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20985; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:07:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mp-217-241-2.daxnet.no (mp-217-241-2.daxnet.no [193.217.241.2]) by falk.c2i.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA23973 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:01:45 +0100 (MET) From: eyvind.spangen@c2i.net (Eyvind Spangen) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Video in/out cable wanted for 760ED Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:07:39 GMT Message-ID: <36cdcfc6.2433228@mail.c2i.net> References: <11276c47.36c85cb5@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <11276c47.36c85cb5@aol.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:43:17 EST, you wrote: >what exactly DO the cables allow the 760ED to do? I've got one of these >laptops, just curious to know what capabilities that options allows. >thanks >Alan Me too. I've got a 770ED with the connectors for enhanced video, and I can get the TV to display the computer, but the video-in? How can I get it to work? I can't fand any application that will display the video in! ES From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 16 15:37:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA01477 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:37:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23885; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:36:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:35:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23687; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:35:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from sarah.albany.edu (sarah.albany.edu [169.226.1.103]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23673; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:34:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from user (133.new-york-33-34rs.ny.dial-access.att.net [12.79.7.133]) by sarah.albany.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA18380; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:34:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902162034.PAA18380@sarah.albany.edu> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Ken's E-mail Client 1998 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:32:33 -0500 To: eyvind.spangen@c2i.net (Eyvind Spangen), THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Ken Subject: Enabling video-in on 770ED In-Reply-To: <36cdcfc6.2433228@mail.c2i.net> References: <11276c47.36c85cb5@aol.com> <11276c47.36c85cb5@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: >Me too. I've got a 770ED with the connectors for enhanced video, and I >can get the TV to display the computer, but the video-in? How can I >get it to work? I can't fand any application that will display the >video in! I recall you have to enable video in, in one or more of these places: Thinkpad Configuration Program, Device Manager, Multimedia Control Panel. I think it might just be the Configuration program you have to use. Then, Asymetrix Digital Video Producer, which came with my 770ED (can't remember if I had to "install" it from the hard disk install files or not), seems to work perfectly when using the video-in port. And, I'm assuming (and hoping) that any ol' video program will work as well. Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 16 19:40:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA04974 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:40:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07837; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:39:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:37:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07617; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:37:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (smtp0.mindspring.com [207.69.200.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07602; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:37:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldh9k.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.197.52]) by smtp0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA26680 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:37:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902170037.TAA26680@smtp0.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Tue, 16 Feb 99 16:37:46 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 560 constantly crashing List-Unsubscribe: One of my associates at work has a 560 that intermintantly locks up on him (and seems to have started since his battery or charging circuit died on him). He said it's mostly in Excel, but happens anytime as well. Would this possibly be a hardware problem? I would guess that maybe the system is getting too hot (since he mentioned that it does get hot). Any suggestions? I wish I knew as much about the 560 as I do about the other machines... -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 16 20:40:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA05537 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:40:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11001; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:39:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:38:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10872; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:38:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10846; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:38:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from leland.stanford.edu (Banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.64.168.119]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8/L) with ESMTP id RAA12958 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:38:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36CA1DD2.B8BAA1E9@leland.stanford.edu> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:39:30 -0800 From: Benjamin Koh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: 560 constantly crashing References: <199902170037.TAA26680@smtp0.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hmm... if it's about heat, it's possible that the 560 is being placed in a poorly ventilated environment - cloth surfaces are terrible heat conductors and can make a system really warm. There's no fan on the 560, so it all depends on conducting heat away to the external environment. The base is the warmest part of my 560X. The 560 is 133mhz so it shouldn't be too hot. Is the unit exposed to direct sunlight? (Dumb, I know, but stray rays can filter through blinds). Or is the room heating turned way up? I was at HP for a while and one of my colleagues had an Omnibook 800 - 166MMX. It crashed reliably (oxymoron?) whenever she brought it home, but worked perfectly in the office. Turned out the office airconditioner kept temperatures around 70 F, but she used the notebook in the warm, humid 95 deg F air at home, and the little Omnibook couldn't take the heat. Benjamin Paul Khoury wrote: > > One of my associates at work has a 560 that intermintantly locks up on him (and seems > to have started since his battery or charging circuit died on him). > > He said it's mostly in Excel, but happens anytime as well. Would this possibly be a > hardware problem? I would guess that maybe the system is getting too hot (since he mentioned > that it does get hot). > > Any suggestions? I wish I knew as much about the 560 as I do about the other machines... > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! > Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 > ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 16 20:43:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA05563 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:43:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11438; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:42:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:42:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11327; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:42:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from dub-img-8.compuserve.com (dub-img-8.compuserve.com [149.174.206.138]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11290; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:42:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dub-img-8.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.18) id UAA21746 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:41:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:41:12 -0500 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: Netscape not running Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: thinkpad Message-ID: <199902162041_MC2-6ABE-89D3@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: I wonder if any others here have come across my problem...? I ran Cleansweep on my 810Mb Tpad to try and regain some valuable space. However, since deleting some orphaned files, Netscape Gold 3 refuses to run. So, I reinstalled it with a clean version - no luck. Netscape Communicater runs as does standard vrs 3...? Anyone any ideas which files in Windows\System Gold need specifically??? Cheers! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 16 21:10:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA05768 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:10:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12695; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:09:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:08:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12601; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12588; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:08:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.53.229]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990217020819.JPTS5201@770> for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 02:08:19 +0000 Message-ID: <36CA2476.34C8@worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:07:50 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Vesa driver for 755C??? References: <199902150217.VAA13666@hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I know this has been covered before, but where do I download the vesa driver to display 256 colors in W95 on a 755C? Thanks!! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 04:54:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA10048 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:54:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03789; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:53:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:52:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03679; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:52:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from panix4.panix.com (IDENT:tGa7QxLF57uDWyQCKsOY7w2/JUAZ/v8c@panix4.panix.com [166.84.1.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03663; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:52:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from panix3.panix.com (rZN8IPTJzkHJehMoG/RZFuz5leFznIBr@panix3.panix.com [166.84.1.68]) by panix4.panix.com (8.8.5/8.8.8/PanixU1.4) with SMTP id EAA01101 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:53:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902170953.EAA01101@panix4.panix.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: alternative chargers? Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:52:50 -0500 From: Mark Bergman List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone used their ThinkPad with an alternative (non-IBM) transformer? I've got a TP600, and my wife has a Compaq Armada. I carry my laptop to work daily, and I'd like to stop lugging the transformer around too. However...the electrical specs on the two transformers are different: IBM: 16V output, 3.36A Compaq: "Maximum" Output (according to the transformer) 18.75V, 3.15A IBM refused (and I can't blame them) to let me know if I could use the Compaq transformer. Any ideas? ---- Mark Bergman Biker, IATSE #1 Stagehand, Unix mechanic bergman@panix.com {cmcl2,uunet}!panix!bergman I want a newsgroup with a infinite S/N ratio! Now taking CFV on: rec.motorcycles.stagehands.pet-bird-owners.pinballers.unix-supporters 5+ So Far--Want to join? Check out: http://www.panix.com/~bergman From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 06:03:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA10483 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 06:03:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12889; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 06:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 06:02:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12781; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 06:02:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from cask.force9.net (cask.force9.net [195.166.128.29]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA12648; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 05:58:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17788 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 11:00:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coors.free-online.net) (212.56.108.80) by cask.force9.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 11:00:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 20130 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1999 10:52:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sierpinski) (212.56.114.224) by coors.free-online.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 1999 10:52:47 -0000 Message-ID: <001d01be5a64$1d199d80$e07238d4@sierpinski> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: , "Mark Bergman" Subject: Re: alternative chargers? Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:56:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: >I've got a TP600, and my wife has a Compaq Armada. I carry my laptop to work >daily, and I'd like to stop lugging the transformer around too. However...the >electrical specs on the two transformers are different: > IBM: > 16V output, 3.36A > > Compaq: > "Maximum" Output (according to the transformer) 18.75V, 3.15A Even if the TP will handle 18.5v, and doesn;t need the extra amperage, do you know that the plugs are compatible? Safer would be to go to an electronics shop (e.g., HSC in California) and buy a new 16v power brick and appropriate plug. Should cost less than $10. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 10:13:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA12694 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23659; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:12:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:10:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23466; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:10:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from atena.eurocontrol.fr (atena.uneec.eurocontrol.fr [147.196.69.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23432; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:10:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from euro.eurocontrol.fr (euro.eurocontrol.fr [147.196.1.15]) by atena.eurocontrol.fr (8.9.1/8.9.1/atena-1.1/nospam) with ESMTP id QAA19645 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:10:29 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from harald.weis@eurocontrol.fr) Received: from SMTP (nav.eurocontrol.fr) by eurocontrol.fr with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA198064228; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:10:28 +0100 Received: from altair.eurocontrol.fr ([147.196.5.16]) by 147.196.5.15 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:10:31 0000 (GMT) Received: from eurocontrol.fr (wei.eurocontrol.fr [147.196.30.187]) by altair.eurocontrol.fr (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA55D2; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:10:25 +0100 Message-Id: <36CADBDF.CF68BAB7@eurocontrol.fr> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:10:23 +0100 From: "Harald WEIS" Organization: EUROCONTROL Experimental Centre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,fr,de Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP380 Z HGFR] Linux compatibility Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Can anybody assure me that the above Thinkpad model, which my son wants to buy, is fully compatible with Redhat 5.x ? Or is there a major trick which could be too difficult for a beginner ? Thank you in advance. Harald Weis -- Harald WEIS | mailto:wei@eurocontrol.fr EUROCONTROL Experimental Centre | http://www.eurocontrol.fr Z.I. des Bordes - B.P. 15 | Phone: + 33 1 69 88 7541 F-91222 Bretigny-sur-Orge CEDEX | Fax: + 33 1 69 88 1941 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 10:57:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA13343 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26362; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:51:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:50:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26233; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:50:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com ([208.14.17.29]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26220; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:50:30 -0500 (EST) From: Received: by wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:47:46 -0500 Message-ID: <9872B1801434D21191CF006097BC884E8F1889@wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Copy HDD Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:47:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: I have to replace the existing HDD in my 701 and was wondering if any knows how I could transfer the contents of the old drive to the new one. The new drive is bare. TIA From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 11:36:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA13995 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:36:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29837; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:35:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:34:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29663; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:34:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0b.netaddress.usa.net (www0b.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29630; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:34:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28374 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Feb 1999 16:31:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990217163153.28373.qmail@www0b.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.31 by www0b via web-mailer(R2.6) on Wed Feb 17 16:31:53 GMT 1999 Date: 17 Feb 99 10:31:53 CST From: Rob Bell To: owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [Copy HDD] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: > I have to replace the existing HDD in my 701 and was wondering if any k= nows > how I could transfer the contents of the old drive to the new one. The = new > drive is bare. > = > TIA Depends what you mean by 'transfer the contents'. If you need to make an= exact copy of the drive on a new disk, it gets pretty tough on a machine = that only supports one drive. You might be able to buy the adapter to install= your new disk in a desktop PC, then network the desktop to the laptop and tran= sfer all info across. Or you could put the old drive in the desktop, copy the= entire partition to the desktop's disk, swap the new drive in, and copy t= he partition back. Most likely the best thing for you to do is to start from scratch (or a restore CD) and re-install everything on the new drive. All you need to = do in this case is copy your data files (documents, etc.) to the new drive. Th= is could be accomplished by floppy, ZIP, direct cable connection to another = PC, network server, etc. This way might take a little digging to get all of = the program install CDs and the ThinkPad drivers, but at least you'll have a = fresh system! = If you use the desktop idea, or if the ThinkPad supported multiple HDs, t= hen there are a variety of utilities that allow you to exactly duplicate disk= partitions across drives very easily. HTH, Rob ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at htt= p://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 12:32:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA14793 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03764; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:30:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:29:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03624; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:29:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03596; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from archa5.cc.uga.edu (arch5.cc.uga.edu) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0089027D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:28:57 -0500 Received: from mell.cssites.uga.edu (mell.cssites.uga.edu [128.192.35.47]) by archa5.cc.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA89672 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:28:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:28:16 -0500 (EST) From: "B. Lewis Noles" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP720c] Setting Up Windows 95 On My Thinkpad 720c In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: lnoles@olympus.athens.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I have a Thinkpad 720c and I would like to install Windows 95 on it. As far as I can tell, there are no Win95 drivers for the PCMCIA slots or the video. How is the best way to get this to work? I currently am running Windows 3.11 with a US Robotics 2.8 PCMCIA modem and a Linksys PCMCIA combo network card. Is this task even feasible? Thanks for any info, Lewis lnoles@athens.net _________________________________________________________________ B. Lewis Noles (work) lnoles@arches.uga.edu (home) lnoles@olympus.athens.net Great Books Page: http://www.athens.net/~lnoles/grtbks.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 12:52:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA15055 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:52:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04762; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:46:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:45:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04631; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:45:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (IDENT:root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.247.247.110]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04605; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:45:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from ssh (dhcp-84.servicemetrics.com [206.247.247.84] (may be forged)) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA13231; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:38:49 GMT From: "Steve Hultquist" To: "Harald WEIS" , Subject: RE: [TP380 Z HGFR] Linux compatibility Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:45:27 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01be5a9d$4de6f6e0$54f7f7ce@ssh.servicemetrics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <36CADBDF.CF68BAB7@eurocontrol.fr> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 List-Unsubscribe: Which one does he want to buy? Almost all of them are. >-----Original Message----- >From: Harald WEIS [mailto:harald.weis@eurocontrol.fr] >Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 8:10 AM >To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: [TP380 Z HGFR] Linux compatibility > > >Can anybody assure me that the above Thinkpad model, which my son wants >to buy, is fully compatible with Redhat 5.x ? > >Or is there a major trick which could be too difficult for a beginner ? > >Thank you in advance. > >Harald Weis > >-- >Harald WEIS | mailto:wei@eurocontrol.fr >EUROCONTROL Experimental Centre | http://www.eurocontrol.fr >Z.I. des Bordes - B.P. 15 | Phone: + 33 1 69 88 7541 >F-91222 Bretigny-sur-Orge CEDEX | Fax: + 33 1 69 88 1941 > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 12:56:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA15112 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:56:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05508; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:55:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:54:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05393; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:54:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.qualitysemi.com (gw.qualitysemi.com [206.86.28.194]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05276; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:53:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.qualitysemi.com ([206.86.28.11]) by gw.qualitysemi.com (8.8.3/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA29493 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:53:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ems.qualitysemi.com (ems.qualitysemi.com [10.1.85.5]) by mailhost.qualitysemi.com (8.8.3/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA13381 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:06:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by ems.qualitysemi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:54:15 -0800 Message-ID: From: Rich Nedinsky To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: archives Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:54:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: I notice that the archives for this list at (swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu) stop at April 1998. Are the latest ones somewhere else? Rich Nedinsky From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 15:21:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA16903 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:21:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13601; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:20:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:18:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13451; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:18:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.jud.ca.gov (mx.jud.ca.gov [208.239.204.222]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13432; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:18:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (host-220.jud.ca.gov [208.239.204.220] (may be forged)) by mx.jud.ca.gov (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA15913; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:14:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.11 Enterprise) id 00027BB0; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:25:13 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:24:25 -0800 Message-ID: <00027BB0.1225@jud.ca.gov> From: Mitchell.Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) Subject: Re: Copy HDD To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part List-Unsubscribe: There are several disk-cloning utilities out there - Norton Ghost, PowerQuest Drive Image. I've used both without too much trouble. The trouble that I can see you experiencing would be figuring how to talk to two hard drives with your 701. If you have access to a desktop or network, you won't have too much trouble. Just hook up your 701 to the network, make a disk image and copy it to some spare disk space. Then swap your old hard drive with your new drive (in your 701) and then copy the saved disk image onto your new, bard drive. There's gonna be a bit of work tweaking your systems to talk to the network. Mitchell ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Copy HDD Author: at Internet Date: 2/17/99 10:47 AM I have to replace the existing HDD in my 701 and was wondering if any knows how I could transfer the contents of the old drive to the new one. The new drive is bare. TIA From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 15:27:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA16969 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:27:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14196; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:26:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:26:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14106; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:26:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from node21.frontiernet.net (node21.frontiernet.net [209.130.129.196]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14087; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from tpr.com (209-130-220-47.nas-1.roc.frontiernet.net [209.130.220.47]) by node21.frontiernet.net (8.8.8a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA89824; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:25:57 -0500 Message-ID: <36CB267E.FCAFD7D@tpr.com> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:28:46 -0500 From: Eric Gottlieb Organization: Torrey Pines Research Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu CC: gottlieb@tpr.com Subject: [365XD] Pinout / Schematics for port replicator conn. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, Does anyone have the pinout or schematics for the port replicator connector on the 365XD? Also, has anyone else had the problem where the pins on that connector were badly bent? It has to be one of the worst connectors that I have ever seen used for a port replicator. It was never forced into the replicator or anything and the connector is mangled. I bent the pins back as best I could, and I am not using the replicator, but it would be nice to be able to use it again. I am NOT going to have the system board replaced. Anyway, if someone has a pinout or happens to have schematics for the system board, I would greatly appreciate this information. Thank you in advance, Eric Gottlieb PS - if anyone knows where I can get that little plastic cover that came with the laptop to cover the port replicator connector, please let me know! Thanks! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 15:33:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA17066 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:33:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14685; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:31:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:31:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14594; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:31:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14579; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:31:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial25.vramp.net (dial25.vramp.net [209.107.20.40]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA29740; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:30:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902172030.PAA29740@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: "B. Lewis Noles" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:27:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [TP720c] Setting Up Windows 95 On My Thinkpad 720c Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal References: In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 17 Feb 99, at 12:28, B. Lewis Noles wrote: > I have a Thinkpad 720c and I would like to install Windows 95 on it. As > far as I can tell, there are no Win95 drivers for the PCMCIA slots or the > video. How is the best way to get this to work? I currently am running > Windows 3.11 with a US Robotics 2.8 PCMCIA modem and a Linksys PCMCIA > combo network card. Is this task even feasible? We have approx. 10 720's that we have successfully upgraded from Win3.1 to 95. The only trick involved is to ensure that everything is working reliably under 3.1 before you upgrade. Win95 will sniff out all of your Win 3.1 drivers and install all of your PCMCIA slots and cards. Then make sure you have all of the latest updates for your cards from the manufacturers. But, you're correct in that IBM doesn't support the 720 with 95 drivers on the website, the only think you'll find is DOS/Win3.1 drivers. Regards, James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. CaptJHEM@waterw.com Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 16:47:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA18089 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:47:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19457; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:42:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:40:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19222; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:40:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.2.78]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19193; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:39:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hseaman.execpc.com (minbar-1-127.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.136.129]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.9.0) id PAA03913; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:39:56 -0600 (CST) From: "Harry Seaman" To: , "Mark Bergman" Subject: Re: alternative chargers? Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:53:00 -0600 Message-ID: <01be5ab7$81507000$7c87cfa9@hseaman.execpc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: >Has anyone used their ThinkPad with an alternative (non-IBM) transformer? >I've got a TP600, and my wife has a Compaq Armada. I carry my laptop to work Separate charger for the armada? Mine, a 1550, has the charger built-in. Now that I've admitted to the world that I have a compaq in addition to my beloved 750C, I wonder if anyone out there knows of mail lists for compaqs, armadas, etc. thanks harry seaman From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 17:34:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA18763 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:34:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22980; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:32:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22785; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:32:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22762; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:31:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl5-42.gate.net [199.227.131.42]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA237964; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:31:47 -0500 Message-ID: <36CB432B.2334D744@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:31:08 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert_Huber@WellspringRes.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Copy HDD References: <9872B1801434D21191CF006097BC884E8F1889@wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Robert... you can do it a couple of ways.. 1. use a desktop to host both the new and old HDD's.. then just copy it.. (there are a few other details, but for now, the foregoing is sufficient) 2. send the old HDD to the place you are purchasing the new HDD from and have them clone it.. 3. rent my EZGig and clone it that way.. Robert_Huber@WellspringRes.com wrote: > I have to replace the existing HDD in my 701 and was wondering if any knows > how I could transfer the contents of the old drive to the new one. The new > drive is bare. > > TIA -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 17:47:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA18960 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:47:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24596; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:47:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:46:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24463; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from sparticus.bright.net (sparticus.bright.net [205.212.123.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24450; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:46:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from peach.z.org. (find1-cs-7.dial.bright.net [209.143.26.8]) by sparticus.bright.net (8.9.3/8.9.3 ComNet Build) with ESMTP id RAA27505; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:45:56 -0500 (EST) To: "Harald WEIS" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP380 Z HGFR] Linux compatibility References: <36CADBDF.CF68BAB7@eurocontrol.fr> X-Auto-Copy-In: 1999-02 From: jzawodn@wcnet.org (Jeremy D. Zawodny) Date: 17 Feb 1999 17:51:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Harald WEIS"'s message of "Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:10:23 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070066 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.66) Emacs/20.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 List-Unsubscribe: "Harald WEIS" writes: > Can anybody assure me that the above Thinkpad model, which my son > wants to buy, is fully compatible with Redhat 5.x ? > > Or is there a major trick which could be too difficult for a > beginner ? I've got a 380D running the stock RH 5.1 installation. I don't know how it differs from the 380Z. Jeremy -- Jeremy D. Zawodny Web Geek, Perl Hacker, etc. http://www.wcnet.org/~jzawodn/ jzawodn@wcnet.org LOAD "LINUX",8,1 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 17:57:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA19055 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25509; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:56:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:56:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25396; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:56:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25382; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:56:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl5-42.gate.net [199.227.131.42]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA391872; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:56:13 -0500 Message-ID: <36CB48E4.7D16C0DF@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:55:33 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Bergman CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: alternative chargers? References: <199902170953.EAA01101@panix4.panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Mark... most likely it will work if the polarity and 'fit' work out.. but i personally would just buy a spare AC adapter.. any IBM one with a round plug will work fine.. Mark Bergman wrote: > Has anyone used their ThinkPad with an alternative (non-IBM) transformer? > I've got a TP600, and my wife has a Compaq Armada. I carry my laptop to work > daily, and I'd like to stop lugging the transformer around too. However...the > electrical specs on the two transformers are different: > IBM: > 16V output, 3.36A > > Compaq: > "Maximum" Output (according to the transformer) 18.75V, 3.15A > > IBM refused (and I can't blame them) to let me know if I could use the Compaq > transformer. Any ideas? > ---- > Mark Bergman Biker, IATSE #1 Stagehand, Unix mechanic > bergman@panix.com {cmcl2,uunet}!panix!bergman > I want a newsgroup with a infinite S/N ratio! Now taking CFV on: > > rec.motorcycles.stagehands.pet-bird-owners.pinballers.unix-supporters > 5+ So Far--Want to join? Check out: http://www.panix.com/~bergman -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 18:08:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA19163 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:08:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26415; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:07:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:06:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26315; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:06:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26280; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:06:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl5-42.gate.net [199.227.131.42]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA422576; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:06:18 -0500 Message-ID: <36CB4B42.2CC4A578@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:05:38 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: Netscape not running References: <199902162041_MC2-6ABE-89D3@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Suggest you consider reloading win9x.. IF you have sufficient space on the HDD to do it.. :-) Mark Gardiner wrote: > I wonder if any others here have come across my problem...? > > I ran Cleansweep on my 810Mb Tpad to try and regain some valuable space. > However, since deleting some orphaned files, Netscape Gold 3 refuses to > run. So, I reinstalled it with a clean version - no luck. Netscape > Communicater runs as does standard vrs 3...? > > Anyone any ideas which files in Windows\System Gold need specifically??? > > Cheers! -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 18:12:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA19218 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:12:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26811; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:09:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:08:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26725; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:08:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26698; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:08:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl5-42.gate.net [199.227.131.42]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA97014; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:08:42 -0500 Message-ID: <36CB4BD2.8AEEA988@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:08:02 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: 560 constantly crashing References: <199902170037.TAA26680@smtp0.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul.. the 560 is a pretty simple machine.. not much to go wrong, relatively speaking of course.. :-) have him run the easy setup tests, remove any add-in memory and try running again.. Paul Khoury wrote: > One of my associates at work has a 560 that intermintantly locks up on him (and seems > to have started since his battery or charging circuit died on him). > > He said it's mostly in Excel, but happens anytime as well. Would this possibly be a > hardware problem? I would guess that maybe the system is getting too hot (since he mentioned > that it does get hot). > > Any suggestions? I wish I knew as much about the 560 as I do about the other machines... > > -- > Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! > Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 > ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 18:13:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA19233 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:13:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27242; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:12:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:11:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27090; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27077; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:11:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl5-42.gate.net [199.227.131.42]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA257534; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:11:15 -0500 Message-ID: <36CB4C6A.FD98FE67@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:10:35 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Barry Marks CC: mark@houlihan.freeserve.co.uk, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Looking for 150Mhz CPU card for thinkpad 760ED References: <014401be5932$dea5d780$230b02cc@cueve> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Barry.. you are EXACTLYcorrect.. the speed increase was trivial.. :-) Barry Marks wrote: > I'm not sure this applies in your case but I've read that the 150 MHz cpu > uses a 50 MHz bus and the 133 MHz cpu uses a 66 MHz bus and is therefore > faster overall. In your case where you're just changing a card on the > motherboard that might not affect the bus, but I think I would look into it > before you do it. > > Barry > > -----Original Message----- > From: mark@houlihan.freeserve.co.uk > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 10:26 AM > Subject: Looking for 150Mhz CPU card for thinkpad 760ED > > >Hi, > > > >I recently bought a second hand 760ED. Lovely little machine but it > >is upgradeable from a 133 to 150 pentium. > > > >the cpu comes on a card and the IBM part no is: > > > >82H8877 150MHz CPu card thinkpad 760E/ED Slim model > > > >If anyone has one or knows where to get them then please > >mail me, thanks > > > >Mark. > > -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 18:19:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA19312 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:19:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27758; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:16:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:15:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27586; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27564; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:15:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl5-42.gate.net [199.227.131.42]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA338760; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:15:14 -0500 Message-ID: <36CB4D5A.E8642BAE@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:14:34 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mark@houlihan.freeserve.co.uk CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Video in/out cable wanted for 760ED References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: IBM sells them for about $35.. i had several laying around from various machines that i have owned, but i think they are mostly gone.. there is nothing to it but a few plugs / sockets.. :-) mark@houlihan.freeserve.co.uk wrote: > Does anyone have the video in/out cable for a 760ED for sale? > > thanks > > Mark -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 18:25:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA19369 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:25:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28510; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:23:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:23:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28399; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:23:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (cave@cavecreations.com [192.41.27.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28386; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:23:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id QAA25947; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:23:00 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:23:00 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199902172323.QAA25947@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: alternative chargers? - related question List-Unsubscribe: I have no answers to this question, but have a question that's kind of related... Is there a 3rd party AC adapter out there which is lighter and less bulky than the adapter that comes with the Thinkpad 600E? As much as I love the 5-7 hr battery life with the standard + ultraslim bay battery, I really really hate when I have to plug in the laptop. My Toshiba 410CDT spoiled me with the integrated power adapter (only had to carry a light cord). The 600's 2 piece design is terrible at best, heavy and the cable lengths are too short. Saw one made by Port I think, but don't remember anything about it. -Al -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998,1999 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 18:32:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA19454 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:32:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29123; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:32:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:31:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29029; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:31:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29016; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:31:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902172331.SAA29016@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Thu, 16 Feb 1989 16:29:21 -0800 (PST) From: "Victor Kress" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:31:37 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: alternative chargers? - related question List-Unsubscribe: Maybe I'm the only one for whom this matters, but if it's internal, you have to carry it whether you need it or not. There is also the heat issue. Leave mine on the outside. I wish they had stuck with the universal AC cord though. On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:23:00 -0700 (MST), Albert C. Lee wrote: >My Toshiba 410CDT spoiled me with the integrated power adapter (only >had to carry a light cord). The 600's 2 piece design is terrible at >best, heavy and the cable lengths are too short. Saw one made by Port >I think, but don't remember anything about it. ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 19:17:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA20073 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:17:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01589; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:16:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:16:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01443; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:15:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01430; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:15:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl5-42.gate.net [199.227.131.42]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA386294 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:15:48 -0500 Message-ID: <36CB5B8C.189B9F87@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:15:09 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Subject: Linux on the ThinkPad..! References: <000e01be586a$b92d8b60$77b31bca@amlaptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: OK, Linux lovers.. :-) I appears that you will get what you want.. IBM and RedHat are supposed to announce that IBM will supply Linux on their machines.. i suspect this will mean better driver support for thinkpads.. i don't have more details at this time... -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 20:06:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA20655 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:06:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03832; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:04:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:01:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03667; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:01:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03647; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:01:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from me ([205.130.18.208]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 2080000 ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:54:27 -0500 Message-ID: <00b301be5ad7$7520b9a0$841382cd@here.com> From: "Slip" To: "Bill Morrow" , "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: Linux on the ThinkPad..! Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:41:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 List-Unsubscribe: >OK, Linux lovers.. :-) >I appears that you will get what you want.. >IBM and RedHat are supposed to announce that IBM will supply Linux on their >machines.. >i suspect this will mean better driver support for thinkpads.. >i don't have more details at this time... Woohoo! I suspect this will mean a more powerfull OS IMHO...:-) Hmmm, does this mean OS support for linux from IBM? I'm assuming that this is only for upcoming models? Good deal. -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 20:29:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA20929 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:29:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05428; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:28:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:27:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05312; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:27:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from samsara.csustan.edu (IDENT:steven@samsara.csustan.edu [130.17.4.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05299; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:26:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from steven@localhost) by samsara.csustan.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA02096 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:30:29 -0800 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <36CB5B8C.189B9F87@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:30:29 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Steven Filling Sender: steven@samsara.csustan.edu From: Steven Filling To: Thinkpad Subject: RE: Linux on the ThinkPad..! List-Unsubscribe: On 18-Feb-99 Bill Morrow extemporized: > OK, Linux lovers.. :-) > I appears that you will get what you want.. Well, unless that FedEX truck stops at my office tomorrow with that complimentary 770,.......... >=20 > IBM and RedHat are supposed to announce that IBM will supply Linux on the= ir > machines.. >=20 > i suspect this will mean better driver support for thinkpads.. We can but hope ;) I suspect there are significant numbers of linux users, based on conversati= ons with tech support staff. thanks for the good news! S. ---------------------------------- Steven Filling E-Mail: steven@panopticon.csustan.edu Date: 17-Feb-99 Time: 17:28:24 ---------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 21:00:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA21336 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06902; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:58:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06788; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:58:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06774; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgoldman.vip.best.com (adsl-216-101-170-226.dsl.pacbell.net [216.101.170.226]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id RAA18515 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:55:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990217175058.00b96570@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:55:39 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Re: [Copy HDD] In-Reply-To: <19990217163153.28373.qmail@www0b.netaddress.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:31 AM 2/17/99 , you wrote: >> I have to replace the existing HDD in my 701 and was wondering if any knows >> how I could transfer the contents of the old drive to the new one. The new >> drive is bare. >> >> TIA > >Depends what you mean by 'transfer the contents'. If you need to make an >exact copy of the drive on a new disk, it gets pretty tough on a machine that >only supports one drive. You might be able to buy the adapter to install your >new disk in a desktop PC, then network the desktop to the laptop and transfer >all info across. Or you could put the old drive in the desktop, copy the >entire partition to the desktop's disk, swap the new drive in, and copy the >partition back. > >Most likely the best thing for you to do is to start from scratch (or a >restore CD) and re-install everything on the new drive. All you need to do in >this case is copy your data files (documents, etc.) to the new drive. This >could be accomplished by floppy, ZIP, direct cable connection to another PC, >network server, etc. This way might take a little digging to get all of the >program install CDs and the ThinkPad drivers, but at least you'll have a fresh >system! > >If you use the desktop idea, or if the ThinkPad supported multiple HDs, then >there are a variety of utilities that allow you to exactly duplicate disk >partitions across drives very easily. There are two other solutions available: 1) If you have enough free disk space on the 701, you can use Drive Image to create an image file of the hard drive on itself, then copy that image file (via LapLink or network) to another system. Then install the new hard drive and reverse the process. 2) There is now a device that attaches to the parallel port of any PC and contains it's own hard drive. It is a hardware version of the current drive image software. You boot from a floppy with this device attached. Then create a drive image of the Hard Drive onto the device. After installing the new hard drive, you reverse the process. I saw the device displayed at Comdex a few months ago and it is now advertised in the back of InfoWorld. Let me know if you need me to look up the advertiser and give you the URL or phone number. -- /=================================================================\ | David Goldman | My business motto is: | | IVR@DGoldman.Com | Choose any two: [ ] Fast | | | [ ] Cheap | | Ask me for my PGP key. | [ ] Right | \=================================================================/ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 21:22:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA21607 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07805; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:20:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07689; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:20:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw1adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (mail-gw1adm.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.60.101]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07673; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:20:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from p350 (ppp-209-184-83-72.hstntx.swbell.net [209.184.83.72]) by mail-gw1adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA02108 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:20:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001e01be5ae4$acb15a20$4853b8d1@p350> From: "davidb@computer.nospam.org" To: Subject: Re: Copy HDD Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:16:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: An alternative to the network solution proposed below would be to use a Jazz or Zip drive. If you're running 95 or 98, installation of either is a snap. Ghost supports volume spanning, which given the rather limited capacity of a Zip, is a nice feature to have. Great program. DB -----Original Message----- From: Mitchell Yee To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu ; Robert_Huber@WellspringRes.com Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Copy HDD > There are several disk-cloning utilities out there - Norton > Ghost, PowerQuest Drive Image. I've used both without too much > trouble. The trouble that I can see you experiencing would be > figuring how to talk to two hard drives with your 701. > > If you have access to a desktop or network, you won't have too > much trouble. Just hook up your 701 to the network, make a > disk image and copy it to some spare disk space. Then swap your > old hard drive with your new drive (in your 701) and then > copy the saved disk image onto your new, bard drive. There's > gonna be a bit of work tweaking your systems to talk to the > network. > > Mitchell > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: Copy HDD >Author: at Internet >Date: 2/17/99 10:47 AM > > >I have to replace the existing HDD in my 701 and was wondering if any knows >how I could transfer the contents of the old drive to the new one. The new >drive is bare. > >TIA > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 21:52:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA21975 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:52:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09161; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:47:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:46:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09061; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:46:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.bctel.ca (nfs1.bctel.ca [207.194.28.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09047; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:46:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from defiant (00-00-86-1d-bf-b1.bconnected.net [209.53.10.22]) by mail1.bctel.ca with SMTP id SAA14654 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:46:41 -0800 (PST) From: "Ryan Hung" To: Subject: RE: Copy HDD Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:46:23 -0800 Message-ID: <000201be5ae8$def281e0$160a35d1@defiant.bconnected.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <001e01be5ae4$acb15a20$4853b8d1@p350> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: The only trouble with these solutions is that copying back isn't so straightforward, particularly with long file names. If you copy the contents of the HD to a Jaz drive, then install the blank new hard disk, you'd have to boot up with a boot floppy first without the Win95/98 GUI. In CLI mode (DOS), you can't copy long filenames properly, even if you do install the Jaz drivers. So copying the files back from the Jaz to the HD isn't so straightforward. Even with a network, you're still going to run into the problem that you need the OS running in order to copy the OS, an impossibility. On desktops, it is easy, since you can plug in multiple HD's in whatever order you wish, and set the partition types (and active partition). If you truly want to copy all the data including the OS and applications to the new HD and just have it boot up and work, I suspect that one would need to have an adapter to put on both drives simultaneously. Unless, of course, the disk-cloning utilities mentioned are able to copy and retain partitions? Ryan. > -----Original Message----- > From: davidb@computer.nospam.org [mailto:dbb@swbell.net] > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 6:16 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Copy HDD > > > An alternative to the network solution proposed below would be to > use a Jazz > or Zip drive. If you're running 95 or 98, installation of either is a > snap. Ghost supports volume spanning, which given the rather limited > capacity of a Zip, is a nice feature to have. Great program. > DB > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mitchell Yee > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu ; > Robert_Huber@WellspringRes.com > Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 2:22 PM > Subject: Re: Copy HDD > > > > There are several disk-cloning utilities out there - Norton > > Ghost, PowerQuest Drive Image. I've used both without too much > > trouble. The trouble that I can see you experiencing would be > > figuring how to talk to two hard drives with your 701. > > > > If you have access to a desktop or network, you won't have too > > much trouble. Just hook up your 701 to the network, make a > > disk image and copy it to some spare disk space. Then swap your > > old hard drive with your new drive (in your 701) and then > > copy the saved disk image onto your new, bard drive. There's > > gonna be a bit of work tweaking your systems to talk to the > > network. > > > > Mitchell > > > > > >______________________________ Reply Separator > _________________________________ > >Subject: Copy HDD > >Author: at Internet > >Date: 2/17/99 10:47 AM > > > > > >I have to replace the existing HDD in my 701 and was wondering > if any knows > >how I could transfer the contents of the old drive to the new > one. The new > >drive is bare. > > > >TIA > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 22:09:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA22225 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:09:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10401; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:05:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:04:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10257; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10066; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:02:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from p2-400mhz (client-151-204-210-40.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.40]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA03384; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:04:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990217220425.009eebf0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:04:25 -0500 To: "davidb@computer.nospam.org" , From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Copy HDD In-Reply-To: <001e01be5ae4$acb15a20$4853b8d1@p350> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I use a bullet drive from Road Warrior to upgrade new drives. It attaches tot he parallel port and houses a 2.5" drive or smaller for Laptops. Load device drivers, boot, Clone drive under Win95 (via Drag&Drop or Xcopy32), swap drive, done. ave to replace the existing HDD in my 701 and was wondering if any knows >>how I could transfer the contents of the old drive to the new one. The new >>drive is bare. >> >>TIA >> > > ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 22:18:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA22345 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:18:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10980; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:13:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:12:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10839; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:12:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw1adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (mail-gw1adm.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.60.101]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10818; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:12:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from p350 (ppp-209-184-83-72.hstntx.swbell.net [209.184.83.72]) by mail-gw1adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA15913; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:12:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005601be5aeb$ec741ec0$4853b8d1@p350> From: "davidb@computer.nospam.org" To: "Ryan Hung" , Subject: Re: Copy HDD Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:07:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: If you're referring to Ghost, you're mistaken. It handles long file name, multiple partitions, a mixture of file systems (fat16, fat32, hpfs, ntfs) flawlessly. It truly clones the source drive. -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Hung To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 8:49 PM Subject: RE: Copy HDD >The only trouble with these solutions is that copying back isn't so >straightforward, particularly with long file names. If you copy the >contents of the HD to a Jaz drive, then install the blank new hard disk, >you'd have to boot up with a boot floppy first without the Win95/98 GUI. In >CLI mode (DOS), you can't copy long filenames properly, even if you do >install the Jaz drivers. So copying the files back from the Jaz to the HD >isn't so straightforward. Even with a network, you're still going to run >into the problem that you need the OS running in order to copy the OS, an >impossibility. On desktops, it is easy, since you can plug in multiple HD's >in whatever order you wish, and set the partition types (and active >partition). > >If you truly want to copy all the data including the OS and applications to >the new HD and just have it boot up and work, I suspect that one would need >to have an adapter to put on both drives simultaneously. Unless, of course, >the disk-cloning utilities mentioned are able to copy and retain partitions? > > Ryan. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: davidb@computer.nospam.org [mailto:dbb@swbell.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 6:16 PM >> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >> Subject: Re: Copy HDD >> >> >> An alternative to the network solution proposed below would be to >> use a Jazz >> or Zip drive. If you're running 95 or 98, installation of either is a >> snap. Ghost supports volume spanning, which given the rather limited >> capacity of a Zip, is a nice feature to have. Great program. >> DB >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mitchell Yee >> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu ; >> Robert_Huber@WellspringRes.com >> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 2:22 PM >> Subject: Re: Copy HDD >> >> >> > There are several disk-cloning utilities out there - Norton >> > Ghost, PowerQuest Drive Image. I've used both without too much >> > trouble. The trouble that I can see you experiencing would be >> > figuring how to talk to two hard drives with your 701. >> > >> > If you have access to a desktop or network, you won't have too >> > much trouble. Just hook up your 701 to the network, make a >> > disk image and copy it to some spare disk space. Then swap your >> > old hard drive with your new drive (in your 701) and then >> > copy the saved disk image onto your new, bard drive. There's >> > gonna be a bit of work tweaking your systems to talk to the >> > network. >> > >> > Mitchell >> > >> > >> >______________________________ Reply Separator >> _________________________________ >> >Subject: Copy HDD >> >Author: at Internet >> >Date: 2/17/99 10:47 AM >> > >> > >> >I have to replace the existing HDD in my 701 and was wondering >> if any knows >> >how I could transfer the contents of the old drive to the new >> one. The new >> >drive is bare. >> > >> >TIA >> > >> > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 22:40:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA22599 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11930; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:35:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:35:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11820; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:35:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11807; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:34:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic58.fbtc.net [204.2.11.58]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA22101; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:34:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <006601be5aef$14c215a0$a58bc898@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "Mark Gardiner" <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, "thinkpad" Subject: Re: Netscape not running Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:30:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I used Cleansweep on my desktop and my TP 365XD and I had so many problems that I finally took it off both systems. In addition to screwing up both my computer setups pretty badly and causing all sorts of software problems, it was one of the buggiest programs I've ever used. I recently threw away the cd while reorganizing my work area. Barry -----Original Message----- From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: thinkpad Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 7:41 PM Subject: Netscape not running I wonder if any others here have come across my problem...? I ran Cleansweep on my 810Mb Tpad to try and regain some valuable space. However, since deleting some orphaned files, Netscape Gold 3 refuses to run. So, I reinstalled it with a clean version - no luck. Netscape Communicater runs as does standard vrs 3...? Anyone any ideas which files in Windows\System Gold need specifically??? Cheers! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 00:01:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA23355 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:01:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14626; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:57:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:55:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14466; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer.cia-g.com (root@mailer.cia-g.com [207.66.82.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14451; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:55:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from cia-g.com (gup-101-dpm3.cia-g.com [207.66.82.224]) by mailer.cia-g.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA01127; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:54:54 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36CB9D55.2DEDF178@cia-g.com> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:55:49 -0700 From: Wabe Brillig Reply-To: brillig@cia-g.com Organization: Picture Rock Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Slip CC: Bill Morrow , Thinkpad Subject: Re: Linux on the ThinkPad..! References: <00b301be5ad7$7520b9a0$841382cd@here.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Don't forget Redhat is coming out with 6.0 within the next couple of months and it will have the new Kernal... maybe IBM is tied into that in some way From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 01:14:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA24106 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:14:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16796; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:08:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16583; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16568; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:07:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-211.usc.edu [128.125.224.211]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id WAA21029; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:07:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990217215344.00b0cc50@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:07:53 -0800 To: Bill Morrow , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Copy HDD In-Reply-To: <36CB432B.2334D744@icanect.net> References: <9872B1801434D21191CF006097BC884E8F1889@wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 05:31 PM 2/17/99 -0500, you wrote: >you can do it a couple of ways.. >1. use a desktop to host both the new and old HDD's.. then just copy it.. >(there are a few other details, but for now, the foregoing is sufficient) > >2. send the old HDD to the place you are purchasing the new HDD from and have >them clone it.. > >3. rent my EZGig and clone it that way.. For what its worth, I rented Bill's EZGig when I bought a new drive from him last November--works great. I could have just used Partition Magic (or Drive Copy) and my desktop machine, but I didn't want to be bothered making sure the adapters weren't on backwards or generally messing up my desktop machine--EZGig was easier and a more efficient use of my time. However, if I had known about the Ultraslim Bay HD adapter (for my TP 600), I would have bought that instead, plugged it in with the new HD in it, and just used Partition Magic to copy the partitions over, then swap the drives and voila, I'd have been done. Anyway, if you don't have a desktop machine, or the ability to include 2 HD's in your machine at once, then I think EZGig is the easiest way to go. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 04:24:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA25716 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:24:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29036; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:18:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA28904; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:18:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (smtp0.mindspring.com [207.69.200.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA28891; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:18:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldgfs.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.193.252]) by smtp0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA18550; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:18:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902180918.EAA18550@smtp0.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Rich Nedinsky" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 99 01:17:59 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: archives List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:54:14 -0800, Rich Nedinsky wrote: >I notice that the archives for this list at (swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu) stop >at April 1998. Are the latest ones somewhere else? I've been saving all my email from this list through now (although I might be missing a few things), so if there was something you wanted in particular, I could try searching for it. Then again, does anyone here know about setting up a simple database on Solaris (so someone could enter in a word or string, and it lists all the files (and their date) which matches the query? (All the emails are I think over 40MB at least). -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 04:44:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA25835 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:44:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29985; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:40:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:38:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29815; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from out4.ibm.net (out4.ibm.net [165.87.194.239]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29802; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:38:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from siggi (sungold1.at.ibm.com [152.158.32.129]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA25548 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:38:31 GMT Message-Id: <199902180938.JAA25548@out4.ibm.net> From: "Siegfried Hanisch" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:39:04 +0100 Reply-To: "Siegfried Hanisch" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (4.0.1381;4) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701C: Battery doesn't charge? List-Unsubscribe: Hi > >> Have you tried the 701 battery reset program? > Where can I find this program? Greetings # Quick to judge Siegfried Hanisch # Quick to anger =====================================# Slow to understand siegfried.hanisch@ibm.net # Ignorance and prejudice ssaver@ibm.net (ScreenSaver support) # And fear =====================================# Walk hand in hand http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8925811/ # Rush - "Witch Hunt" PGP public key available # Team OS/2 # From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 06:25:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA26401 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:25:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09361; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:24:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:22:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09177; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:22:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from innernet.net (innernet.net [207.121.52.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09164; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from me ([205.130.18.41]) by innernet.net with SMTP (IPAD 2.03) id 2997000 ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:34:47 -0500 Message-ID: <001e01be5b30$cef9fc80$291282cd@here.com> From: "Slip" To: "Siegfried Hanisch" , Subject: Re: 701C: Battery doesn't charge? Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:21:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 List-Unsubscribe: >>> Have you tried the 701 battery reset program? > >Where can I find this program? Check out www.innernet.net/jlk and go the small files section. Good luck and HTH. -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 06:45:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA26497 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:45:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10142; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:42:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09923; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:42:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com ([208.14.17.29]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09908; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:42:33 -0500 (EST) From: Received: by wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:39:58 -0500 Message-ID: <9872B1801434D21191CF006097BC884E8F188B@wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com> To: penzance@icanect.net, Robert_Huber@WellspringRes.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Copy HDD Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:39:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Thanks to all for all the responses on how to deal with the problem. Bill's suggestions below actually follows the decision path I made last night. 1) was not a option for me. 2) I asked them if they would and they wanted $110 to do the cloning (a tad expensive I thought). Then 3) I heard about the EZGig and ordered one last night (had I read Bill's e-mail first I might have rented his) for less they the shop wanted to do the cloning! Actually it was only just less but at least I can do the next one with out incurring additional expense, he says hopefully. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Morrow [SMTP:penzance@icanect.net] > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 5:31 PM > To: Robert_Huber@WellspringRes.com > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Copy HDD > > Robert... > > you can do it a couple of ways.. > 1. use a desktop to host both the new and old HDD's.. then just copy it.. > (there are a few other details, but for now, the foregoing is sufficient) > > 2. send the old HDD to the place you are purchasing the new HDD from and > have > them clone it.. > > 3. rent my EZGig and clone it that way.. > > > Robert_Huber@WellspringRes.com wrote: > > > I have to replace the existing HDD in my 701 and was wondering if any > knows > > how I could transfer the contents of the old drive to the new one. The > new > > drive is bare. > > > > TIA > > > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net > 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > vary, > Done on a > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 07:48:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA26859 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11941; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:48:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:46:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11684; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:46:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgi2.tm.net.my (provision.tm.net.my [202.188.95.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11671; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:46:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from peter ([202.188.195.108]) by cgi2.tm.net.my (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990218124533.CMFO10734@peter> for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:45:33 +0800 Message-ID: <00b201be5b3c$24e7f7e0$6cc3bcca@peter> From: "Zilim" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Subject: Re: Netscape not running Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:42:27 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Barry, You definitely did the right thing. Cleansweep cleans up more stuff than it supposed to. I faced the same problem 6 months ago. Imagine the idea of reloading the OS everytime Cleansweep screws up the system. I'm using Norton SystemWorks now. It consists of a few good suite of Norton Symantec products. It's fantastic. The product is good and so as the support. Though not perfect but it's excellent. So far, I've not encountered any flaws in my system at all. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Barry Marks To: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com>; thinkpad Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 11:36 AM Subject: Re: Netscape not running >I used Cleansweep on my desktop and my TP 365XD and I had so many problems >that I finally took it off both systems. In addition to screwing up both my >computer setups pretty badly and causing all sorts of software problems, it >was one of the buggiest programs I've ever used. I recently threw away the >cd while reorganizing my work area. > >Barry > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> >To: thinkpad >Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 7:41 PM >Subject: Netscape not running > > >I wonder if any others here have come across my problem...? > >I ran Cleansweep on my 810Mb Tpad to try and regain some valuable space. >However, since deleting some orphaned files, Netscape Gold 3 refuses to >run. So, I reinstalled it with a clean version - no luck. Netscape >Communicater runs as does standard vrs 3...? > >Anyone any ideas which files in Windows\System Gold need specifically??? > >Cheers! > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 12:47:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA29918 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:47:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27113; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:43:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:40:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26883; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:40:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from falk.c2i.net (pop1.c2i.net [193.216.69.98]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26682; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:38:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mp-217-239-45.daxnet.no (mp-217-239-45.daxnet.no [193.217.239.45]) by falk.c2i.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA18455 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:33:16 +0100 (MET) From: eyvind.spangen@c2i.net (Eyvind Spangen) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops Subject: Just got my new Thinkpad 770ED!!! Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:39:19 GMT Message-ID: <36d14218.70668636@news1.c2i.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I got my 770ED today. And all I can say, it's great!! No dead pixels, everything is perfect! The 14.1" screen has got _much_ better picture than my top-of-the-line CRT. ES From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 13:08:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA00298 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29408; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:03:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:03:00 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29239; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:02:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id NAA03155 for dist-thinkpad; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02918; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:18:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial7.vramp.net (dial7.vramp.net [209.107.20.22]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA16556; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:16:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902092016.PAA16556@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: David Kramer , thinkpad mailing list Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:14:49 -0500 Subject: Re: Error 174 with new hard drive. Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <36C08434.D10EEA00@kramer.ne.mediaone.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 9 Feb 99, at 13:53, David Kramer wrote: > The pin 1 on the hard drive (there are no markings on the HD) appears to be > next to the jumpers while the markings on the ribbon cable indicate pin 1 is > on the other side. Is this possible? They are both polarized. The jumpers are the four pins that are separate from the drive connection pins (e.g. there's a space, about one pin width, between the four and the rest of the pins). The number one pin is immediately adjacent to the jumpers according to my SupportSource database. > IBM DTCA-23240 (The website calls it a Travelstar 4GT). 3250MB 630CYL > 16HD 63 SECT/TRK >From the same source, the 4GT is a 4.4Gig drive. Your drive appears to share family with the 4GT as well as the 5GS. Hope this helps Dave. James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. CaptJHEM@waterw.com Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 13:14:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA00372 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:14:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29808; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:09:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:08:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29680; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:08:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29659; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:08:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id NAA27769; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:08:12 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from thinkpad-770 (ts002d19.ott-cn.concentric.net [206.173.215.79]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id NAA08898; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:08:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902181808.NAA08898@marconi.concentric.net> From: "Patrick Hong" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:07:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Hot Swap CD-ROM for 770 Reply-to: phong@concentric.net Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) List-Unsubscribe: I have a 770 that doesn't seem to want to hot-swap the CD-ROM drive. When I boot with the A: drive, then swap it with the CD-ROM, the UltraBay utility says that the CD-ROM cannot be installed now. To use the CD-ROM, I have to shut down the machine and reboot. Any ideas would be appreciated. ... patrick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. email: phong@concentric.net Tel: (613) 769-1544 Fax: (613) 728-4063 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 13:21:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA00457 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:21:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00527; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:17:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:16:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00386; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:16:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.seanet.com (dns2.seanet.com [199.181.164.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00364; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:16:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.182.122.139 ([204.182.122.139]) by mx.seanet.com (8.8.8/Seanet-8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA10512 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:16:01 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) Newsgroups: list.thinkpad To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Dock II, 701, Win95, scsi Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:23:07 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: Lines: 29 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: I recently purchased a used Dock ii from somebody on this list. It came without any documentation, but with the 701 adaptor (!). I have managed to get a couple of Dock ii - related documents >from the IBM website, but both are pre-701 era. Is there an issue with Win95 and the scsi adaptor? When the 701 is docked, Win95 after a couple of minutes begins to install drivers for the new configuration (which is kind of neat, I think, you don't have to ask it). It finally asks for Win95 diskette 5 (which I had handy, fortunately), but then it hangs when installing the scsi driver. If I turn in off an keep it in the dock, it hangs on the scsi again before completing its bootup. Outside the dock, it continues to work fine. Do I need to do something like disable the scsi bios? How? Any other suggestions? My plan is to put an old IDE CD-ROM in the Dock II so that I can have access to all that good stuff. Thanks. -- cheers Jonathan jberry@islandnet.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 13:46:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA00797 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:46:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02410; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:34:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01891; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:34:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww181.netaddress.usa.net (ww181.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01877; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:34:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3237 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Feb 1999 18:31:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990218183144.3236.qmail@ww181.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.81 by ww181 via web-mailer(R2.6) on Thu Feb 18 18:31:44 GMT 1999 Date: 18 Feb 99 12:31:44 CST From: Rob Bell To: phong@concentric.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [Hot Swap CD-ROM for 770] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: > I have a 770 that doesn't seem to want to hot-swap the CD-ROM drive. W= hen = > I boot with the A: drive, then swap it with the CD-ROM, the UltraBay ut= ility > says that the CD-ROM cannot be installed now. To use the CD-ROM, I hav= e to = > shut down the machine and reboot. Any ideas would be appreciated. > = > ... patrick Since you're talking about hot swapping, I'm assuming you're using Win 95= /98. = NT only supports warm swapping. Anyway, for hot swapping to work, you mu= st boot with the CD-ROM installed. Then you can swap back and forth until y= ou're blue in the face. If you boot with the floppy installed, hot swapping wo= n't work. Also, if you boot with the floppy installed externally (via cable)= I _think_ that hot swapping won't work that way either. It's kind of finic= ky! HTH, Rob ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at htt= p://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 15:04:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA02124 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:04:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04014; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:01:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:00:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03677; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.seanet.com (dns2.seanet.com [199.181.164.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03656; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:00:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.182.122.139 ([204.182.122.139]) by mx.seanet.com (8.8.8/Seanet-8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA24457; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:59:44 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: Robert_Huber@WellspringRes.com Cc: penzance@icanect.net, Robert_Huber@WellspringRes.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Copy HDD Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:52:23 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: <39Gz24mipNmO092yn@islandnet.com> <9872B1801434D21191CF006097BC884E8F188B@wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com> In-Reply-To: <9872B1801434D21191CF006097BC884E8F188B@wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com> Lines: 69 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: Nobody has mentioned this yet: Get a portable-to-IDE adaptor for your new drive (about $8). Get a used Dock II with a 701 adaptor ($135 ????) Install the new hard drive in the Dock II (you'll need a caddy for your old drive and a caddy for the new drive) Copy the old drive to the new drive (can't get faster than bus access!). The select pins on the drive might be an issue, but an old-style caddy may well select your new drive to be a slave (this is a problem in most new-drive installations, but here it could work to your advantage, at least at the beginning). Swap. Would it work? More expensive, but you have a Dock II when you're finished. In article <9872B1801434D21191CF006097BC884E8F188B@wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com>, you wrote: :Thanks to all for all the responses on how to deal with the problem. : :Bill's suggestions below actually follows the decision path I made last :night. 1) was not a option for me. 2) I asked them if they would and they :wanted $110 to do the cloning (a tad expensive I thought). Then 3) I heard :about the EZGig and ordered one last night (had I read Bill's e-mail first I :might have rented his) for less they the shop wanted to do the cloning! :Actually it was only just less but at least I can do the next one with out :incurring additional expense, he says hopefully. : :> -----Original Message----- :> From: Bill Morrow [SMTP:penzance@icanect.net] :> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 5:31 PM :> To: Robert_Huber@WellspringRes.com :> Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu :> Subject: Re: Copy HDD :> :> Robert... :> :> you can do it a couple of ways.. :> 1. use a desktop to host both the new and old HDD's.. then just copy it.. :> (there are a few other details, but for now, the foregoing is sufficient) :> :> 2. send the old HDD to the place you are purchasing the new HDD from and :> have :> them clone it.. :> :> 3. rent my EZGig and clone it that way.. :> :> :> Robert_Huber@WellspringRes.com wrote: :> :> > I have to replace the existing HDD in my 701 and was wondering if any :> knows :> > how I could transfer the contents of the old drive to the new one. The :> new :> > drive is bare. :> > :> > TIA :> :> :> -- cheers Jonathan jberry@islandnet.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 17:02:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA04103 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:02:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15536; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:49:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:47:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15255; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:47:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15216; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:47:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgoldman.vip.best.com (adsl-216-101-170-226.dsl.pacbell.net [216.101.170.226]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id NAA27133 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:45:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990218134439.00b62220@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:45:48 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: IBM and Linux Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: According to an article I read in todays San Jose Mercury News, IBM will initially only offer Linix on their servers. They may consider offering it on desktop and laptop models in the future. -- David Goldman From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 18:36:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA05373 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:36:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22997; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:35:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:32:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22760; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:32:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22744; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from atreyu (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA18278; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:31:57 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990218173149.00897dd0@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:31:49 -0600 To: Rob Bell From: Ron Heiby Subject: Re: [Hot Swap CD-ROM for 770] Cc: phong@concentric.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <19990218183144.3236.qmail@ww181.netaddress.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 12:31 PM 2/18/99 CST, Rob Bell wrote: >Also, if you boot with the floppy installed externally (via cable) I >_think_ that hot swapping won't work that way either. It is my understanding (from IBM) that the floppy is *NOT* to be "hot swapped" on the cable at all, under any operating system. Apparently, damage might result. The hot swapping works just fine for me between floppy and DVD on my 770ED. I know that I've done it with the DVD installed at boot. I *thought* that I'd done it when the floppy was installed at boot. However, I can't be certain. I rarely operate in that mode. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: My Primary Signing Key: 0xBFF69509 available from keyservers iQA/AwUBNsyi4W8pw+2/9pUJEQKeXACg7iH6/P92XYNPPHQtUicn7SF05PwAoI9w KZoqlb4WIdI9DXsEnP49a1ET =jasP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 19:27:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA06063 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:27:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25935; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:25:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:24:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25825; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:24:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25811; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:24:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:23:51 -0500 Sender: rob_bell@csi.com Received: from csi.com (chi-qbu-nvn-vty198.as.wcom.net [209.154.112.198]) by dub-img-ims-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.7) with ESMTP id TAA26925; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:22:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36CCAEEB.20A5CC8D@csi.com> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:23:07 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ron Heiby CC: Rob Bell , phong@concentric.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [Hot Swap CD-ROM for 770] References: <3.0.5.32.19990218173149.00897dd0@popmail.mcs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ron Heiby wrote: > It is my understanding (from IBM) that the floppy is *NOT* to be "hot swapped" > on the cable at all, under any operating system. Apparently, damage might > result. The hot swapping works just fine for me between floppy and DVD on my > 770ED. I know that I've done it with the DVD installed at boot. I *thought* > that I'd done it when the floppy was installed at boot. However, I can't be > certain. I rarely operate in that mode. Win95/98 might be more forgiving about hot swapping in the UltraBay than my first message stated. It might be able to swap with either the floppy or CD installed at boot, but I thought it was like NT (needing the CD at boot). However, a page on the IBM web site seems to contradict the statement above that warm attach/detach of the floppy from the cable is bad (see the page at http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3QGLEF.html). Beware, though, that the author of that page seems to think misleadingly that hot swapping = warm swapping: > TP 770 - Hot swapping of floppy and CD-ROM under > Windows NT > > > This is the README file from the Windows NT preload for the ThinkPad 770. A pure Hot > Swap of the hard drive is not supported, but a warm swap of the CD-ROM and floppy in > the Ultrabay is supported. Attaching the external floppy drive while the system is powered > up is supported, but note that external floppy drive warm swapping and internal Ultrabay > floppy drive warm swapping are mutually exclusive! Only one works at a time. ThinkPad > Configuration will set both up for you. Also as stated in the README, due to limitations in > Windows NT the CD-ROM has to be present at boot time for an Ultrabay warm swap to > work at all. > > Hot Swapping UltraBay Devices > > Hot swapping of UltraBay devices (such as the CD-ROM drive and the Diskette drive) is > supported by your ThinkPad 770 Windows NT system. In order for hot swapping to occur, > the CD-ROM drive must be installed in the UltraBay when the Windows NT system is > booted. To enable UltraBay hot swap support, open the ThinkPad icon on your desktop > and then open the ThinkPad Configuration icon in the ThinkPad folder. Select the UltraBay > icon in the ThinkPad Configuration window, then select the "Enable UltraBay FDD warm > attach" option, click on "OK", close all windows and restart your Windows NT system. > You can now hot swap between the CD-ROM drive and the Diskette drive after > suspending your ThinkPad 770 system. This can be accomplished by closing the lid on > your system, waiting ten (10) seconds, swapping the drives and then opening the lid on > your system. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 20:17:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA06552 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:17:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28173; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:15:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28041; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:15:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28021; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:15:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mmak (client-118-139.bellatlantic.net [151.198.118.139]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA05630; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:15:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000801be5ba5$265fda20$8b76c697@mmak> From: "Don" To: "Rob Bell" , "Ron Heiby" Cc: "Rob Bell" , , Subject: Re: [Hot Swap CD-ROM for 770] Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:14:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: If the floppy is attached externally when the system is booted (under win95/98) you CANNOT remove it from the cable and try to hot swap in the UltraBayII. Otherwise it can be hot swapped any time even if not present at boot. I have heard that repeated swaps may lead to an error but personally have not run into this problem. I have read somewhere that reminstalling or removing a device before getting the OK can cause damage to the system. Anyone who can "enlighten" me on what kind of damage may occur? I would think it would be limitted to software problems and not hardware???? Donald Mak -----Original Message----- From: Rob Bell To: Ron Heiby Cc: Rob Bell ; phong@concentric.net ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [Hot Swap CD-ROM for 770] >Ron Heiby wrote: > >> It is my understanding (from IBM) that the floppy is *NOT* to be "hot swapped" >> on the cable at all, under any operating system. Apparently, damage might >> result. The hot swapping works just fine for me between floppy and DVD on my >> 770ED. I know that I've done it with the DVD installed at boot. I *thought* >> that I'd done it when the floppy was installed at boot. However, I can't be >> certain. I rarely operate in that mode. > > >Win95/98 might be more forgiving about hot swapping in the UltraBay than >my first message stated. It might be able to swap with either the >floppy or CD installed at boot, but I thought it was like NT (needing >the CD at boot). > >However, a page on the IBM web site seems to contradict the statement >above that warm attach/detach of the floppy from the cable is bad (see >the page at http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3QGLEF.html). Beware, >though, that the author of that page seems to think misleadingly that >hot swapping = warm swapping: > >> TP 770 - Hot swapping of floppy and CD-ROM under >> Windows NT >> >> >> This is the README file from the Windows NT preload for the ThinkPad 770. A pure Hot >> Swap of the hard drive is not supported, but a warm swap of the CD-ROM and floppy in >> the Ultrabay is supported. Attaching the external floppy drive while the system is powered >> up is supported, but note that external floppy drive warm swapping and internal Ultrabay >> floppy drive warm swapping are mutually exclusive! Only one works at a time. ThinkPad >> Configuration will set both up for you. Also as stated in the README, due to limitations in >> Windows NT the CD-ROM has to be present at boot time for an Ultrabay warm swap to >> work at all. >> >> Hot Swapping UltraBay Devices >> >> Hot swapping of UltraBay devices (such as the CD-ROM drive and the Diskette drive) is >> supported by your ThinkPad 770 Windows NT system. In order for hot swapping to occur, >> the CD-ROM drive must be installed in the UltraBay when the Windows NT system is >> booted. To enable UltraBay hot swap support, open the ThinkPad icon on your desktop >> and then open the ThinkPad Configuration icon in the ThinkPad folder. Select the UltraBay >> icon in the ThinkPad Configuration window, then select the "Enable UltraBay FDD warm >> attach" option, click on "OK", close all windows and restart your Windows NT system. >> You can now hot swap between the CD-ROM drive and the Diskette drive after >> suspending your ThinkPad 770 system. This can be accomplished by closing the lid on >> your system, waiting ten (10) seconds, swapping the drives and then opening the lid on >> your system. > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 21:25:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA07224 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:25:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00830; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:20:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:19:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00708; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:19:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (smtp0.mindspring.com [207.69.200.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00695; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:19:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldghu.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.194.62]) by smtp0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA24134 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:19:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902190219.VAA24134@smtp0.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 99 18:19:33 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: IBM and Linux List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:45:48 -0800, David Goldman wrote: >According to an article I read in todays San Jose Mercury News, >IBM will initially only offer Linix on their servers. They may >consider offering it on desktop and laptop models in the future. Imagine, mwave for Linux. =) -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html | RECENTLY UPDATED! Running OS/2 3/4, Win 98, Sun Solaris 2.3/2.6 ICQ#30344840 AIM - pkhoury12 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 21:45:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA07582 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:45:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01969; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:44:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:43:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01854; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:43:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (smtp0.mindspring.com [207.69.200.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01836; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:43:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp760 (user-38ldghu.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.194.62]) by smtp0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA07690; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:43:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902190243.VAA07690@smtp0.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Jonathan Berry" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 99 18:43:33 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dock II, 701, Win95, scsi List-Unsubscribe: >Do I need to do something like disable the scsi bios? How? >Any other suggestions? > I think you have to press CRTL-A when the SCSI BIOS is looking for connected devices, and you should be able to configure it from there. >My plan is to put an old IDE CD-ROM in the Dock II so that I can >have access to all that good stuff. I don't know if IDE is possible (because I thought about that also when I had my Dock). -- Paul Khoury | pkhoury@mindspring.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 760ED http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 18 21:54:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA07695 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:53:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02619; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:53:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:52:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02497; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:52:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAD (smtp4.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02484; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:52:03 -0500 Sender: rob_bell@csi.com Received: from csi.com (chi-qbu-nvn-vty198.as.wcom.net [209.154.112.198]) by dub-img-ims-1.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.7) with ESMTP id VAA08160 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:51:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36CCD1D4.CCE4BA7E@csi.com> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:52:04 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [Hot Swap CD-ROM for 770] References: <000801be5ba5$265fda20$8b76c697@mmak> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Don wrote: > > If the floppy is attached externally when the system is booted (under > win95/98) you CANNOT remove it from the cable and try to hot swap in the > UltraBayII. [snip] You are correct. I'm kind of confused though, because nothing I stated in my earlier message mentioned moving the floppy from the cable to the UltraBay or vice-versa during hot/warm swap. In fact, the message I quoted from the IBM page said just what you said. I guess my message was confusing... Rob From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 19 00:27:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA09025 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:27:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08720; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:26:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:25:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08579; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:25:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08559; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:25:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl7-55.gate.net [199.227.131.182]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA279628; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:25:33 -0500 Message-ID: <36CCF5A4.B012E84C@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:24:53 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Slip CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: Linux on the ThinkPad..! References: <00b301be5ad7$7520b9a0$841382cd@here.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: This news and the lousey way the evil empire is handling their trial resulted in a down day for MSFT stock.. today.. i suppose we can all hope for some legacy drivers from ibm for amtique thinkpads.. Slip wrote: > >OK, Linux lovers.. :-) > >I appears that you will get what you want.. > >IBM and RedHat are supposed to announce that IBM will supply Linux on their > >machines.. > >i suspect this will mean better driver support for thinkpads.. > >i don't have more details at this time... > > Woohoo! I suspect this will mean a more powerfull OS IMHO...:-) Hmmm, does > this mean OS support for linux from IBM? I'm assuming that this is only for > upcoming models? > Good deal. > -Jamie -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 19 00:35:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA09130 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:35:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09189; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:34:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:34:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09105; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:34:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09074; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:34:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl7-55.gate.net [199.227.131.182]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA179916 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:34:30 -0500 Message-ID: <36CCF7BD.DAD0738F@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:33:49 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: thinkpads.com is down! References: <000801be5ba5$265fda20$8b76c697@mmak> <36CCD1D4.CCE4BA7E@csi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: ust so no one is mystified, it seems my web site, htp://www.thinkpads.com is down.. i don't know why, yet, but it might have something to do with the fact the host company just had a top management change.. -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 19 07:26:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA12291 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 07:26:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05625; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 07:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 07:21:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05397; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 07:21:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com ([208.14.17.29]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05384; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 07:21:29 -0500 (EST) From: Received: by wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 07:18:52 -0500 Message-ID: <9872B1801434D21191CF006097BC884E8F188D@wjbs0003xch.fl.wellspringres.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Copy HDD Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 07:18:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Got the EZ-GIG last evening and 1 hr later the HDD was cloned! I must admit to being totally amazed. They advertised it as a no sweat, no bother process and that is exactly what it was. Thanks again to all for your suggestions/advice. > -----Original Message----- > From: Huber, Robert > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 1999 6:40 AM > To: 'Bill Morrow'; Huber, Robert > Cc: 'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu' > Subject: RE: Copy HDD > > Thanks to all for all the responses on how to deal with the problem. > > Bill's suggestions below actually follows the decision path I made last > night. 1) was not a option for me. 2) I asked them if they would and they > wanted $110 to do the cloning (a tad expensive I thought). Then 3) I heard > about the EZGig and ordered one last night (had I read Bill's e-mail first > I might have rented his) for less they the shop wanted to do the cloning! > Actually it was only just less but at least I can do the next one with out > incurring additional expense, he says hopefully. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Morrow [SMTP:penzance@icanect.net] > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 5:31 PM > To: Robert_Huber@WellspringRes.com > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Copy HDD > > Robert... > > you can do it a couple of ways.. > 1. use a desktop to host both the new and old HDD's.. then just copy > it.. > (there are a few other details, but for now, the foregoing is > sufficient) > > 2. send the old HDD to the place you are purchasing the new HDD from > and have > them clone it.. > > 3. rent my EZGig and clone it that way.. > > > Robert_Huber@WellspringRes.com wrote: > > > I have to replace the existing HDD in my 701 and was wondering if > any knows > > how I could transfer the contents of the old drive to the new one. > The new > > drive is bare. > > > > TIA > > > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net > 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage > will vary, > Done on a > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 19 09:48:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA13342 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:48:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12160; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:47:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:45:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12014; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:45:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.area54.net (mercury.area54.net [205.177.191.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11982; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:45:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA05207; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:53:06 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:53:05 -0500 (EST) From: Michael X-Sender: michael@mercury.area54.net To: Bill Morrow cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpads.com is down! In-Reply-To: <36CCF7BD.DAD0738F@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Bill (and others) It looks like you just have a DNS problem. Going to http://207.182.174.24 works fine. Michael On Fri, 19 Feb 1999, Bill Morrow wrote: > ust so no one is mystified, it seems my web site, htp://www.thinkpads.com is > down.. > > i don't know why, yet, but it might have something to do with the fact the > host company just had a top management change.. > > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net > 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, > Done on a > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 19 09:57:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA13425 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:56:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12786; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:55:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12700; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:55:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from infw1.bakerd.com (infw1.bakerd.com [208.216.217.173]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12687; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:55:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from [132.149.1.9] by infw1.bakerd.com via smtpd (for CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 14:55:34 UT Received: from BD-Message_Server by bakerd.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:56:25 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:56:14 -0500 From: "Kevin Toner" To: Subject: Any tips on cleaning out Win98 crud? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: This question relates to my TP600 and my Aptiva S90 desktop PC. Both = machines are starting to slow down noticeably because of increased use of = the hard drive, particularly the Aptiva which I have had for more than 2 = years. I suspect that the Windows folders and registry are becoming = clogged with references to many old programs which I have deleted from my = system. Is there any good, safe way to clean this crud off of my computer = and restore it to the sort of performance I enjoyed when it came out of = the box? I regularly use scandisk, defrag and uninstall to do the best I = can, but I know there's lots of extra junk out there. Is the best = solution to reformat the hard drives and apply the IBM restore CD? Thanks = in advance for any advice. Kevin Toner From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 19 12:44:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA15669 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06582; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:37:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:35:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06355; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:35:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.149.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06335; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:35:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17760 invoked by uid 66); 19 Feb 1999 17:36:13 -0000 Received: from seneca by slarti with UUCP; Fri Feb 19 17:36:13 1999 -0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Harald Milz Newsgroups: local.ml.thinkpad Subject: Re: IBM and Linux Date: 19 Feb 1999 15:23:21 GMT Organization: Linux.DE Lines: 11 Message-ID: <7ajvl9$1oa$5@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> References: <199902190219.VAA24134@smtp0.mindspring.com> Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de NNTP-Posting-Host: seneca.muc.de X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980618 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.35 (i586)) List-Unsubscribe: Paul Khoury wrote: > Imagine, mwave for Linux. =) Let me find out. OTOH, Torsten Duwe is already working on it, skunkworks-wise. -- "Last week a cop stopped me in my car. He asked me if I had a police record. I said, no, but I have the new DEVO album. Cops have no sense of humor." From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 19 13:22:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA16121 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:22:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10236; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:18:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:18:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10115; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:18:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10083; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer ([12.77.217.152]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990219181716.EEKG4098@oemcomputer>; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:17:16 +0000 Message-ID: <36CDAAAA.38BC@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:17:14 -0500 From: Birger Petterson X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Toner CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Any tips on cleaning out Win98 crud? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: There are many reasons that may contribute to your slowness. Memory, too many items in the start up menu, some program or programs not behaving well, and some programs not releasing resources when you quit them. Many of us routinely start from scratch every six months. Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 19 16:01:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA18596 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:01:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21693; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:58:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:54:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21365; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:54:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21315; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:54:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15265 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 1999 20:54:09 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 15249 invoked by uid 0); 19 Feb 1999 20:54:08 -0000 Received: from dialupd253.ptld.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (207.225.84.253) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 1999 20:54:08 -0000 Message-ID: <36CDCF8B.9707A457@uswest.net> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:54:35 -0800 From: Patrick West X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux on a TP360cse References: <199902190219.VAA24134@smtp0.mindspring.com> <7ajvl9$1oa$5@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a TP360cse with 20 meg of ram. I pickedup a copy of The M&T Books Slackware series "Linux configuration & Installation" I will be using a Microsolution backpack parallel port cd-rom drive. I have an removeable drive, the drive I will be using for linux is a 540 meg fru p/n 84G4319 asm p/n 84G2355 On page 67 chapter 2 Installing the book tells me that "ThinkPad users"..."must pass along the hard drive geometry at boot time" I have not done anythng yet. Just started reading the book today. So any idea what the "hard drive geometry" is for one of these drives? and what format I need to use the info as switches? -- Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 19 16:59:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA19512 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:59:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25959; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:57:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:55:32 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25568; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:55:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id QAA14249 for dist-thinkpad; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:55:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (root@avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.150.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22626; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:29:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.167.101]) by avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id XAA19610; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:29:28 +0100 (MET) Received: (from utcke@localhost) by asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) id XAA18409; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:29:17 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199902172229.XAA18409@asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: Fw: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 In-Reply-To: <01be593f$1e5bd8a0$03785a8e@pmachule> from peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP at "Feb 15, 99 03:58:44 pm" To: machule@triumf.ca (peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:29:17 +0100 (MET) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: sven.utcke@gmx.de (Sven Utcke) Reply-to: sven.utcke@gmx.de (Sven Utcke) Phone: +49-(0)761-203-8274 Fax: +49-(0)761-203-8262 Address: Albert-Ludwigs-Universitaet Freiburg, Institut fuer Informatik Address: Lehrstuhl fuer Mustererkennung und Bildverarbeitung X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > They do mention that they are still working on a Fat 32 Hibernation file. > > Given that other companies have it out ....what's the problem ? That's strange. Even my 701 can do hibernation on FAT32 (1), so any other machine should really be able too. Sven (1) which surprised me no end --- this machine is more than 3 years old, I didn't even know FAT32 was around at that time... -- _ _ Lehrstuhl fuer Mustererkennung und Bildverarbeitung | |_ __ | |__ Sven Utcke | | ' \| '_ \ phone: +49 761 203 8274 Am Flughafen 17 |_|_|_|_|_.__/ fax : +49 761 203 8262 79110 Freiburg i. Brsg. mailto:utcke@informatik.uni-freiburg.de www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~utcke From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 19 17:35:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA20127 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:35:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28725; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:33:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28601; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:33:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28586; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:33:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.18.33]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990219223244.HJWG4098@770> for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:32:44 +0000 Message-ID: <36CDE66A.FAE@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:32:10 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ThinkPad and IE4?? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I remember that when Internet Explorer 4 came out, you cound not use it on certain thinkpads (760) without destroying the hard drive. Does the IE 4.01 service pack address this, or does anyone remember the procedure to install IE4 on a 760 without problems? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 19 18:23:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA20805 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:23:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01308; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:21:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:20:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01196; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:20:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01181; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 18:20:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic84.fbtc.net [204.2.11.84]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA24679; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:20:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00ab01be5c5d$ed452c40$1c81c998@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "Kevin Toner" , Subject: Re: Any tips on cleaning out Win98 crud? Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:16:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: There is a program called regclean.exe somewhere on Microsoft's site. It cleans up a few things in your registry but I don't know how much it doesn't clean up. I usually screw something up and re-install from scratch after a format every 4-6 months. When I'm done the system runs much smoother and faster. I've been doing that since I started using Windows and if I fail to screw something up someday I'll do it anyway. :) Barry -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Toner To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 8:56 AM Subject: Any tips on cleaning out Win98 crud? This question relates to my TP600 and my Aptiva S90 desktop PC. Both machines are starting to slow down noticeably because of increased use of the hard drive, particularly the Aptiva which I have had for more than 2 years. I suspect that the Windows folders and registry are becoming clogged with references to many old programs which I have deleted from my system. Is there any good, safe way to clean this crud off of my computer and restore it to the sort of performance I enjoyed when it came out of the box? I regularly use scandisk, defrag and uninstall to do the best I can, but I know there's lots of extra junk out there. Is the best solution to reformat the hard drives and apply the IBM restore CD? Thanks in advance for any advice. Kevin Toner From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 19 19:48:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA21838 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:48:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04992; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:47:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:46:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04893; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:46:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com (smtp2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.32]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04880; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:46:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from munx (user-38ld0b1.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.129.97]) by smtp2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA30183; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:46:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990219194944.00a8ebc0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: highwire@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:51:51 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Bill Morrow From: Greg Lara Subject: Re: thinkpads.com is down! In-Reply-To: <36CCF7BD.DAD0738F@icanect.net> References: <000801be5ba5$265fda20$8b76c697@mmak> <36CCD1D4.CCE4BA7E@csi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:33 AM 2/19/99 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >ust so no one is mystified, it seems my web site, htp://www.thinkpads.com is >down.. > >i don't know why, yet, but it might have something to do with the fact the >host company just had a top management change.. Most likely, this is due to a DNS problem, either with your hosting company, or their service provider. It is possible to reach it via the IP address. I'd give them a call asap to find out what's going on, Bill. Greg L. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 19 23:38:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA24363 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:38:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12175; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:37:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:36:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12028; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:36:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12007; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:36:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mindspring.com (user-37kbvfm.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.253.246]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA16014 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:36:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36CE3C53.ED652A9E@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:38:43 -0500 From: Emery Sinclair Organization: UniDial Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Subject: Remove Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 00:24:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA24825 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:24:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14093; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:23:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:22:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13930; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:22:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.mindspring.com (smtp1.mindspring.com [207.69.200.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13917; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:22:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl (user-38s05ip.dialup.mindspring.com [209.192.22.89]) by smtp1.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA21156 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:22:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990220002135.00a41100@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:21:35 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Remove In-Reply-To: <36CE3C53.ED652A9E@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:38 PM 2/19/99 -0500, Emery Sinclair wrote: > > We're a bit like Hotel California here. The list admin doesn't read the list, so if you want off, you'll have to follow the instructions found in the headers of all mail coming from the list: List-Unsubscribe: From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 04:07:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA26602 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 04:07:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24773; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 04:06:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 04:04:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24473; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 04:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from uldns2.unil.ch (uldns2.unil.ch [130.223.4.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24447; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 04:04:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from remote-acc-23.unil.ch ([130.223.37.23] helo=ibcm.unil.ch) by uldns2.unil.ch with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu id 10E8KE-0006Eh-00; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:03:50 +0100 Message-ID: <36CE7A2E.3FF4259E@ibcm.unil.ch> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:02:39 +0100 From: Etienne Pralong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Subject: Remove References: <36CE3C53.ED652A9E@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Please remove me from the list Etienne Pralong From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 04:21:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA26697 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 04:21:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25724; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 04:20:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 04:19:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25586; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 04:19:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from tubkom.prz.tu-berlin.de (root@tubkom.prz.tu-berlin.de [130.149.62.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25547; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 04:17:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from devil.prz.tu-berlin.de (devil.prz.tu-berlin.de [130.149.62.214]) by tubkom.prz.tu-berlin.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA05335; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:16:42 +0100 (MEZ) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by devil.prz.tu-berlin.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA13838; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:17:42 +0100 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:17:42 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Eyrich To: Barry Marks cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: Any tips on cleaning out Win98 crud? In-Reply-To: <00ab01be5c5d$ed452c40$1c81c998@cueve> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 19 Feb 1999, Barry Marks wrote: |I usually screw something up and re-install from scratch after a format |every 4-6 months. When I'm done the system runs much smoother and faster. |I've been doing that since I started using Windows and if I fail to screw |something up someday I'll do it anyway. :) Do you never use specific settings/tools which need to be reinstalled every time? Or do you know a program, which allows to back up and restore settings (e.g. pathes in office, icon ordering on the desktop, etc)? Just curious, Michael being used to unix systems :-) -- Michael Eyrich, PRZ, TU-Berlin michey@prz.tu-berlin.de From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 09:32:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA28591 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 09:32:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10959; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 09:31:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 09:30:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10842; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 09:30:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10829; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 09:30:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic72.fbtc.net [204.2.11.72]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id IAA10815; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 08:26:51 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601be5cdc$801d0aa0$480b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "Michael Eyrich" Cc: "thinkpad" Subject: Re: Any tips on cleaning out Win98 crud? Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 08:22:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: -----Original Message----- From: Michael Eyrich To: Barry Marks Cc: thinkpad Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 3:17 AM Subject: Re: Any tips on cleaning out Win98 crud? >On Fri, 19 Feb 1999, Barry Marks wrote: > >|I usually screw something up and re-install from scratch after a format >|every 4-6 months. When I'm done the system runs much smoother and faster. >|I've been doing that since I started using Windows and if I fail to screw >|something up someday I'll do it anyway. :) > > >Do you never use specific settings/tools which need to be reinstalled >every time? Or do you know a program, which allows to back up and >restore settings (e.g. pathes in office, icon ordering on the desktop, >etc)? I don't have anything like that. It sure would make it easier. But I'm afraid I'd be saving problems too. I use a lot of software so it generally takes a full day (12-14 hours) to get the system back to the point that I'm happy with it. And then I'm still installing packages I don't use as often every day or 2 or 3 for a few weeks. I have a CDR so I've thought about making some CD's of my initial setup. But I'm not sure how useful that would be. I'm a long time dos user and windows will always be new to me. :) Barry From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 10:25:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA28942 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:25:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12382; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:24:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:23:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12251; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:23:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet.sover.net (garnet.sover.net [209.198.87.53]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12238; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:23:28 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from MYHOSTNAME (arc1a133.bf.sover.net [209.198.81.135]) by garnet.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA21231 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:23:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902201523.KAA21231@garnet.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on garnet.sover.net) MYHOSTNAME from arc1a133.bf.sover.net [209.198.81.135] 209.198.81.135 Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:23:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:18:37 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <000601be5cdc$801d0aa0$480b02cc@cueve> Subject: Re: Any tips on cleaning out Win98 crud? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 b60 List-Unsubscribe: I've been reading this thread and remembering that I use to have to do all this stuff too. So I want to thank all of you fellows for reminding me why I gave up using Microsoft's junkware. --I'm not trying to start an operating system war, but the times I have reloaded OS2 over the years are so far between, that I usually have to get out the manuals each time to remember some of the finer points of installation. >>|I usually screw something up and re-install from scratch after a format >>|every 4-6 months. When I'm done the system runs much smoother and faster. >>|I've been doing that since I started using Windows and if I fail to screw >>|something up someday I'll do it anyway. :) >> >> >>Do you never use specific settings/tools which need to be reinstalled >>every time? Or do you know a program, which allows to back up and >>restore settings (e.g. pathes in office, icon ordering on the desktop, >>etc)? >I don't have anything like that. It sure would make it easier. But I'm >afraid I'd be saving problems too. >I use a lot of software so it generally takes a full day (12-14 hours) to >get the system back to the point that I'm happy with it. And then I'm >still installing packages I don't use as often every day or 2 or 3 for a >few weeks. _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 11:38:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA29526 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:38:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15642; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:36:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:35:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15541; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:35:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15527; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:35:04 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from Arminvali@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id GMQKa04297 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:33:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:33:58 EST To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Midi Problem with 365XD Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 List-Unsubscribe: I recently noticed that I can't play MIDI files, no problem playing wave files. I can't say for sure if I ever could play MIDI files. This is a second hand unit and I got it with no manuals, drivers or installation disk. Problem 1. I get an error: MMSYSTEM066 - There are no instruments defined in MIDI Mapper. Use the MIDI tab in multimedia Properties to set up instrument. Problem 2. The LCD screen only displays 256 colors. Can I attach an external Monitor and display the higher Monitor colors? Any help would be appreciated. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 14:37:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA01452 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:37:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01183; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:35:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:34:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01001; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:34:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from sttlpop1.sttl.uswest.net (sttlpop1.sttl.uswest.net [206.81.192.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00987; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:33:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27492 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 1999 19:33:53 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 27479 invoked by uid 0); 20 Feb 1999 19:33:52 -0000 Received: from dialupl195.sttl.uswest.net (HELO peter) (209.180.201.195) by sttlpop1.sttl.uswest.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 19:33:52 -0000 From: "p machule" To: Subject: 701C just ordered one from onsale.com Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:33:46 -0800 Message-ID: <01be5d07$ef0e5240$c3c9b4d1@peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 List-Unsubscribe: Always wanted one of these toys so I finally ordered on. Vendor is that rip of artist, Data Path Technologies who loves gauging on transpo charges . $32 !!! Ouch . I'll try and talk to them about that ;-} Should be here ...in ten working days ? How does this company stay in business. www.chipmerchant.com wants $62 for 32MB of memory. Any one better ?? No warranty on battery so I'm expecting the worst . Who has batteries for a decent price ? No manual supplied . Did not see anything on IBM's web page .pdf etc . Is it there ? Does any one know a source and price for the docking station adapter ? Any other thoughts ? >peter.. Ps price for what it's worth was $242 plus transpo. 701C DX4- 75 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 14:54:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA01647 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:54:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01947; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:52:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01854; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:52:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01839; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:52:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from dialup1-r2.egenet.com.tr (dialup1-r2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.81]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA05815; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:53:37 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199902201853.VAA05815@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "Turgut Kalfaoglu" To: "letoured@sover.net" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:25:39 +0000 Reply-To: "Turgut Kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Any tips on cleaning out Win98 crud? List-Unsubscribe: On a similar note; did anyone try to load Aurora on Thinkpad 6000's ? I wonder if/how it would work! -turgut From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 15:20:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA01924 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:20:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03119; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:19:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:19:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03026; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:19:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03013; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:19:11 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from KB7VKL@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 8HHHa11033 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:18:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <25960857.36cf1898@aol.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:18:32 EST To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Memory confusion! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 List-Unsubscribe: When I added a 16MB memory card, PCMCIA type, to my Thinkpad 700 it only registers 16MB after running the auto config utility. This machine has 4MB onboard before installing the 16MB card, is there a trick to getting access to the whole 20MB? Or do I lose the 4MB when I install the card? TIA for any help, Bill From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 15:27:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA01980 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:27:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03590; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:26:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:25:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03499; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:25:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.seanet.com (dns2.seanet.com [199.181.164.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03459; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:25:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.182.122.139 ([204.182.122.139]) by mx.seanet.com (8.8.8/Seanet-8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA01212; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 12:25:24 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: pkhoury@mindspring.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Dock II, 701, Win95, scsi Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:40:07 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199902190243.VAA07690@smtp0.mindspring.com> Lines: 34 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: : :>Do I need to do something like disable the scsi bios? How? :>Any other suggestions? :> :I think you have to press CRTL-A when the SCSI BIOS is looking for connected devices, :and you should be able to configure it from there. Aha! Just after the memory test. I had been going Ctrl-A later, when the machine was already hung. I have disabled the bios but now the computer hangs earlier than before. After the bluesky screen, the screen goes black with a cursor in the top left corner (this is normal), but instead of disk activity and eventual booting, it just stays that way. The 701 still boots normally when undocked. : :>My plan is to put an old IDE CD-ROM in the Dock II so that I can :>have access to all that good stuff. : :I don't know if IDE is possible (because I thought about :that also when I had my Dock). :-- :Paul Khoury | pkhoury@mindspring.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 760ED :http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html : : -- cheers Jonathan jberry@islandnet.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 15:45:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA02163 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:45:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04869; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:43:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04724; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:43:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04709; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:43:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id OAA00386 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:43:47 -0600 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:43:47 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: More ThinkPad parts to go... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I want to get rid of these parts. Please make an offer. Will sell each or as a lot. - IBM 82H8160 New (opened) Internal 6X CD-ROM drive for 365X or 365XD - IBM 41H7438 Used battery for any 365 series - IBM 85G6738 Used External power adapter for 2625- 365X and 365XD models 2635- 380 and 385 models 2640- 560 and 560E models - New, Factory-sealed Xtend (xmpi.com) #B303 battery for any 365 series I don't want to deal with more auctions, so go ahead and make an offer. Chris Schumann From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 15:46:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA02187 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:46:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05082; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:45:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:45:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04973; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:45:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from izzy6.izzy.net (root@izzy6.izzy.net [206.84.176.178]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04957; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:45:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from noel.home.null (annex-0-5-port-37.dialup.coast.net [207.158.189.101]) by izzy6.izzy.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA08207 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:45:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:45:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Kenneth J. Baker" X-Sender: bakerkj@noel.home.null To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Buying a low cost Thinkpad In-Reply-To: <01be5d07$ef0e5240$c3c9b4d1@peter> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I'm new to the list. I have been running linux for almost a year now. I am currently running it on a dual processor PII two Alphas and a SparcClassic. I would really like to "carry" linux with me but I don't have to much money to spend on a machine. So I've been looking at the Thinkpad 760's and 560's on ebay and onsale. Could you share your thoughts, recommendations, struggles to get linux running etc? Thanks, Ken From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 16:16:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA02448 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:16:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06336; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:15:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:13:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06181; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06167; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:13:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from leland.stanford.edu (Banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.64.168.119]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8/L) with ESMTP id NAA02849; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 13:13:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36CF25CA.AAFE4728@leland.stanford.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 13:14:50 -0800 From: Benjamin Koh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Kenneth J. Baker" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Buying a low cost Thinkpad References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a 560X, and I tried quite hard to get linux going. I managed to install Caldera OpenLinux 1.2, and RedHat 5.2 partially. The main problem I faced and couldn't overcome was that my network card (3Com 10/100 Cardbus) was too new to market and had no driver, and my CD-ROM (Panasonic KXL-810A) had no driver either and Panasonic didn't release the specs. Red Hat 5.2 installed all the way to LILO, then messed up the MBR. I could boot off the floppy, but that's no way to run Linux on a floppy-external machine. So I gave up and decided to wait until there are stable drivers for my network card at least. Make sure your essential peripherals (modem or LAN card or CD-ROM for example) are explicitly supported, or get older ones that are if you don't have them yet. Older stuff is also a lot cheaper. Stuff that works a little more slowly is way better than fast stuff that doesn't work It will be far more convenient installing Linux if your thinkpad has both CD-ROM and floppy accessible. You can download from the web like I did, but it's really no fun. A web install is possible though *if* your network card is supported. For this reason I would recommend a 765L, if you can find it. p166mmx, 13.3 TFT (no kidding!), 3.2 gb, 3yr warranty and both drives accessible with the optional floppy kit. Only thing is it weighs ~7 lb. I would have bought one myself except I knew I would carry my laptop around and 4 lbs feels a lot better than 7. Last time I saw 765Ls at www.laptopsales.com they were around $1300 new. They're not there anymore though. Try www.interactiveportables.com - that's where I got my 560X. I haven't tried onsale, but their prices are unimpressive, as is their record on Dejanews. eBay is good for variety but prices tend to be high, plus used units often have little or no warranty. You can often find *new* units for the same or less than eBay prices if you look hard. eBay is better for exotic, hard to find stuff. 560X's for example were $999 refurbed at www.warehouse.com, and $1299 new. These are better than eBay prices anytime. For a small premium try IBM's own refurb shop. Go to www.ibm.com, click on products, and then refurbished stuff. They come with a 90 day warranty from IBM. One last thing - if money is really an issue, 755CDs (486-100, 10.4 TFT, 2x CD-ROM) are less than $500 if I recall correctly. They're a good deal too unless you need heavy duty computing power, in which case you should be looking for a Sparcbook anyway :-) Best of luck Benjamin From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 16:43:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA02693 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:43:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07381; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:41:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07239; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:41:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay1.smtp.psi.net (relay1.smtp.psi.net [38.8.14.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07225; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:41:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from [204.5.147.3] (helo=exch1.smh.com) by relay1.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 10EK9A-0005R5-00; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:41:12 -0500 Received: by exch1.smh.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:35:17 -0500 Message-ID: <40E8526E9CA4D011A45800805FFEAEDB066FF1E6@exch1.smh.com> From: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" To: p machule , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: 701C just ordered one from onsale.com Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:58:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Greetings, I got a Dock II through Onsale and Data Path. It wasn't a pleasant experience. They shipped it three weeks after I won the auction, and then only because I was complaining to Onsale Customer Service. The Dock II arrived very poorly packed. There were broken pieces of plastic, no documentation (figured that), and not even an AC power cord. For what I paid for it I kept it and got it working, but I'd stay away from that outfit in the future. It did come with an IBM cdrom that works. It's just a shame they couldn't have packed the thing properly. Regards, Neil Halvey -----Original Message----- From: p machule [mailto:machule@triumf.ca] Sent: Saturday, February 20, 1999 2:34 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701C just ordered one from onsale.com Always wanted one of these toys so I finally ordered on. Vendor is that rip of artist, Data Path Technologies who loves gauging on transpo charges . $32 !!! Ouch . I'll try and talk to them about that ;-} Should be here ...in ten working days ? How does this company stay in business. www.chipmerchant.com wants $62 for 32MB of memory. Any one better ?? No warranty on battery so I'm expecting the worst . Who has batteries for a decent price ? No manual supplied . Did not see anything on IBM's web page .pdf etc . Is it there ? Does any one know a source and price for the docking station adapter ? Any other thoughts ? >peter.. Ps price for what it's worth was $242 plus transpo. 701C DX4- 75 ------------------------------------------------------------------ This message was spam-checked by an evaluation copy of MailShield. See http://www.mailshield.com for more information. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 16:53:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA02770 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:53:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08174; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:53:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:52:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08015; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:52:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07997; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:52:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA11560; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:51:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from bal-md19-17.ix.netcom.com(207.92.160.209) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma011541; Sat Feb 20 15:50:45 1999 From: "K Wayne Claybaugh" To: "Sven Utcke" , "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" Cc: Subject: RE: Fw: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:48:33 -0500 Message-ID: <000401be5d1a$c2ee90e0$d1a05ccf@k_wayne.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <199902172229.XAA18409@asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: All: I would appreciate any help you could give me.. I just installed Windows 98 on my ThinkPad 600 .. all went as outlined in the install guide... Went to 98 and started the FAT 16 to FAT 32 convernsion, got the message that the hibernation file may not work under FAT32.. didn't finish the convernsion, ... What to do ? Delete the hiberation file and then do the FAT 32?? how to recreate the hiberation after convernsion.. Any help would be appreciated. kwayne > -----Original Message----- > From: Sven Utcke [mailto:sven.utcke@gmx.de] > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 5:29 PM > To: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Fw: HD Upgrade - FAT 32 vs 16 > > > > They do mention that they are still working on a Fat 32 > Hibernation file. > > > > Given that other companies have it out ....what's the problem ? > > That's strange. Even my 701 can do hibernation on FAT32 (1), so any > other machine should really be able too. > > Sven > > (1) which surprised me no end --- this machine is more than 3 years > old, I didn't even know FAT32 was around at that time... > -- > _ _ Lehrstuhl fuer Mustererkennung und Bildverarbeitung > | |_ __ | |__ > Sven Utcke > | | ' \| '_ \ phone: +49 761 203 8274 > Am Flughafen 17 > |_|_|_|_|_.__/ fax : +49 761 203 8262 79110 > Freiburg i. Brsg. > mailto:utcke@informatik.uni-freiburg.de > www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~utcke > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 17:50:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA03232 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:50:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10333; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:48:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:48:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10220; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:48:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10205; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p46.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.61]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA13898; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:48:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902202248.OAA13898@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Etienne Pralong" , "Thinkpad" Date: Sat, 20 Feb 99 14:46:42 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Remove List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:02:39 +0100, Etienne Pralong wrote: >Please remove me from the list > >Etienne Pralong > > Maybe you should have read Jane's thread about unsubscribing before sending yet another needless message to the list. Look in your headers for unsubscribing instructions. -- Paul Khoury | pkhoury@mindspring.com | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 17:52:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA03248 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:52:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10582; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:51:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:50:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10474; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:50:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10459; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:50:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p46.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.61]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA14110; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:51:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902202251.OAA14110@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Jonathan Berry" Date: Sat, 20 Feb 99 14:49:58 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dock II, 701, Win95, scsi List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:40:07 -0800, Jonathan Berry wrote: >: >:>Do I need to do something like disable the scsi bios? How? >:>Any other suggestions? >:> >:I think you have to press CRTL-A when the SCSI BIOS is looking for connected devices, >:and you should be able to configure it from there. > >Aha! Just after the memory test. I had been going Ctrl-A >later, when the machine was already hung. > >I have disabled the bios but now the computer hangs earlier >than before. After the bluesky screen, the screen goes black >with a cursor in the top left corner (this is normal), but >instead of disk activity and eventual booting, it just stays >that way. What did you change in the SCSI BIOS? Do you have any other strange device drivers, such as NIC, modem, etc? -- Paul Khoury | pkhoury@mindspring.com | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 17:55:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA03268 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:55:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11023; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:54:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:53:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10856; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:53:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10841; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (p46.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.61]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA14248; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:54:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902202254.OAA14248@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Patrick West" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 20 Feb 99 14:52:41 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Linux on a TP360cse List-Unsubscribe: >I have not done anythng yet. Just started reading >the book today. So any idea what the "hard drive >geometry" is for one of these drives? and what >format I need to use the info as switches? HD geometry is such as 1024 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track. That would be the geometry of a drive. Of course, the example above would only be about 516096K bytes. -- Paul Khoury | pkhoury@mindspring.com | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 20 19:08:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA03852 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13775; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:07:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:06:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13618; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:06:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from opus.padz.net (padz.net [205.216.163.172]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13604; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:06:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 12723 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1999 16:06:35 PST Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Feb 1999 16:06:35 PST Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:06:35 -0800 (PST) From: Valerie Delane X-Sender: valerie@opus To: Benjamin Koh cc: "Kenneth J. Baker" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Buying a low cost Thinkpad In-Reply-To: <36CF25CA.AAFE4728@leland.stanford.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: benkoh = Benjamin Koh benkoh> I have a 560X, and I tried quite hard to get linux going. I benkoh> managed to install Caldera OpenLinux 1.2, and RedHat 5.2 benkoh> partially. The main problem I faced and couldn't overcome was benkoh> that my network card (3Com 10/100 Cardbus) was too new to benkoh> market and had no driver, and my CD-ROM (Panasonic KXL-810A) benkoh> had no driver either and Panasonic didn't release the benkoh> specs. Red Hat 5.2 installed all the way to LILO, then messed benkoh> up the MBR. I could boot off the floppy, but that's no way to benkoh> run Linux on a floppy-external machine. So I gave up and benkoh> decided to wait until there are stable drivers for my network benkoh> card at least. i still have not found a cdrom driver, either, but otherwise my 560x works great with red hat 5.1. i just bought a 3com megahertz 10/100 nic and it is supported by dave hind's standard pcmcia package. see for details. benkoh> Make sure your essential peripherals (modem or LAN card or benkoh> CD-ROM for example) are explicitly supported, or get older benkoh> ones that are if you don't have them yet. Older stuff is also benkoh> a lot cheaper. Stuff that works a little more slowly is way benkoh> better than fast stuff that doesn't work most excellent advice ::grin:: --v From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 07:43:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA10064 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 07:43:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27909; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 07:42:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 07:40:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27801; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 07:40:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27786; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 07:40:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id GAA26128; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 06:40:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from alb-ny6-44.ix.netcom.com(198.211.83.108) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma026113; Sun Feb 21 06:39:59 1999 Message-ID: <36CFFE0F.911D4581@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 07:37:35 -0500 From: Maxie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p machule CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701C just ordered one from onsale.com References: <01be5d07$ef0e5240$c3c9b4d1@peter> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: try Coast to Coast memory for the best Thinkpad memory prices. harvey p machule wrote: > Always wanted one of these toys so I finally ordered on. > > Vendor is that rip of artist, Data Path Technologies who loves gauging on transpo charges . > $32 !!! Ouch . > I'll try and talk to them about that ;-} > > Should be here ...in ten working days ? > How does this company stay in business. > > www.chipmerchant.com wants $62 for 32MB of memory. > Any one better ?? > > No warranty on battery so I'm expecting the worst . > Who has batteries for a decent price ? > > No manual supplied . > Did not see anything on IBM's web page .pdf etc . > Is it there ? > > Does any one know a source and price for the docking station adapter ? > > Any other thoughts ? > > >peter.. > > Ps price for what it's worth was $242 plus transpo. > 701C DX4- 75 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 08:18:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA10274 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:18:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28745; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:17:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:15:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28598; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:15:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from arl-img-9.compuserve.com (arl-img-9.compuserve.com [149.174.217.139]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28583; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:15:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by arl-img-9.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.18) id IAA26283 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:15:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:14:22 -0500 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: Rewire of power plug Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: thinkpad Message-ID: <199902210815_MC2-6B3F-E572@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: I am wary of my AC plug - the part which coonects to the back of the Tpad= - as it is showing signs of fatigue where the lead exits the large moulding= . It looks like this moulding is sealed?? How to rewire the connector if it= fails?? Cheers Mark From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 08:45:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA10430 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:45:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29586; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:42:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29442; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29429; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:42:37 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from Arminvali@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 9MJCa03537 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:38:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:38:07 EST To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Midi Problem with 365XD Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part0_919604288_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_919604288_boundary Content-ID: <0_919604288@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII --part0_919604288_boundary Content-ID: <0_919604288@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: Arminvali@aol.com Return-path: To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Midi Problem with 365XD Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:33:58 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I recently noticed that I can't play MIDI files, no problem playing wave files. I can't say for sure if I ever could play MIDI files. This is a second hand unit and I got it with no manuals, drivers or installation disk. Problem 1. I get an error: MMSYSTEM066 - There are no instruments defined in MIDI Mapper. Use the MIDI tab in multimedia Properties to set up instrument. Problem 2. The LCD screen only displays 256 colors. Can I attach an external Monitor and display the higher Monitor colors? Any help would be appreciated. --part0_919604288_boundary-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 10:48:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA11217 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:48:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03048; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:47:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:47:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02914; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:47:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02901; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:46:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from atreyu (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id JAA19150 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:46:51 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990221094645.0084ca90@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:46:45 -0600 To: thinkpad From: Ron Heiby Subject: Re: Rewire of power plug In-Reply-To: <199902210815_MC2-6B3F-E572@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 08:14 AM 2/21/99 -0500, Mark Gardiner wrote: >I am wary of my AC plug - the part which coonects to the back of the Tpad - >as it is showing signs of fatigue where the lead exits the large moulding. >It looks like this moulding is sealed?? How to rewire the connector if it >fails?? You don't say what TP you are using. Also, I suspect that you are being somewhat "loose" with your terminology. With my 755CE that I carried around for a few years, I bought two AC adapters. One sat at my home office all the time, and is in perfect condition. The one that bounced around in my briefcase and had its DC cord unwrapped and re-wrapped many many times less so. I noticed the other day that where the DC cord enters the hunk of plastic that doubles as both the plug for the back of the 755CE and as part of the mechanism that holds the DC cord wrapped tightly around the adapter, that some of the insulation had worn through, and some bare wires were showing and beginning to fray. Although basically "put out to pasture" in favor of my 770ED, the 755CE still gets some service in some network software testing I've been doing, etc. So, I asked a friend with a hardware "bent" about the thing. His respons was "Hot Glue!". He dabbed a bit into the gap where the DC cable enters the big plastic plug. This provides insulation for the wires and strain relief. While it looks slightly ugly, I'm guessing that it will provide a good deal of extra life for the adapter. BTW, while on the subject of AC adapters: In my opinion, the AC adapter for the 755CE is, with no exception, the finest piece of engineering and human factors that I have ever found in an AC adapter for *any* product, *ever*. Although I really like my new 770ED, it was a disappointment to see that the new adapter did not carry forward the same design approach as my older one. In particular: - The new one uses a much longer AC cord. The 755CE's AC cord was only about six inches long. Long enough to not block multiple AC outlets, but short enough to add insignificant weight and bulk for carrying. - The new one uses an AC cord with some goofy odd-ball connector where it enters the adapter brick. The 755CE's AC cord used the same kind of connector that nearly every PC in the world uses. This kind of cord is commonly found in any country where PCs are used, with the country's native power outlet plug at the other end. This meant that I could travel with good assurance that I'd be able to plug in anywere, without having to be overly concerned that I had the right adapters in sufficient quantity to run my PC and other personal electronics. Back home, it meant that I could have the end of a normal PC power cord laying atop my desk and plug it into the adapter, having to unwind only a foot or so of the DC cord. With the new one, I have to unwind everything. - The new one does not wrap or secure the DC cord nearly as nicely as the old. - The new one uses a different connector on the DC side, so I cannot use one of the newer adapters with my older TP. (I know I can't go the other way, since the new TP seems to require more power than the rating on the older supplies.) Quite a disappointment, especially since the "brick" portion is very close in size to the older adapter. There should have been no reason why the older and better design could not have been carried forward to this one. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: My Primary Signing Key: 0xBFF69509 available from keyservers iQA/AwUBNtAqRW8pw+2/9pUJEQLIsQCfep962Wz3vrpzF0SsUnKaGdP9dQUAnRSC xa0PEgkizja3sKUqDxbWGw6R =V++d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 10:58:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA11303 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03538; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:57:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:57:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03424; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from strauss.baraboo.com (strauss.baraboo.com [156.46.199.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03411; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:57:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from dwilliam.baraboo.com ([156.46.152.21]) by strauss.baraboo.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57003U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:59:11 -0600 Message-ID: <36D02CAF.6C1F@iname.com> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:56:31 -0600 From: Jeff Fletcher Reply-To: jeff_fletcher@iname.com Organization: Applied Data Solutions X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701C just ordered one from onsale.com References: <01be5d07$ef0e5240$c3c9b4d1@peter> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I've purchased several refurbished Thinkpads through OnSale, one from DataPath and the rest from IBM. The IBMs were refurbished to essentially new condition and I was happy with each. The one from DataPath, however, was a mess. It arrived covered in dirt/dust, it looked grungy, and it did not include the operating system that was listed in the advertisement. It also shipped much later than claimed. They refused to supply the OS or allow a credit for not supplying it as promised. They got the machine back and lost several potential customers. Good luck. p machule wrote: > > Always wanted one of these toys so I finally ordered on. > > Vendor is that rip of artist, Data Path Technologies who loves gauging on transpo charges . > $32 !!! Ouch . > I'll try and talk to them about that ;-} > > Should be here ...in ten working days ? > How does this company stay in business. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 11:40:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA11702 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:40:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05077; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:39:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:37:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04761; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.seanet.com (dns2.seanet.com [199.181.164.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04737; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.182.122.139 ([204.182.122.139]) by mx.seanet.com (8.8.8/Seanet-8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA28557; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:37:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:37:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902211637.IAA28557@mx.seanet.com> From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: pkhoury@mindspring.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Lines: 45 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: "Jonathan Berry" Bcc: Subject: Re: Dock II, 701, Win95, scsi Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:26:42 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <199902202251.OAA14110@stevie.loop.com> In-Reply-To: <199902202251.OAA14110@stevie.loop.com> In article <199902202251.OAA14110@stevie.loop.com>, you wrote: :On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:40:07 -0800, Jonathan Berry wrote: : :>: :>:>Do I need to do something like disable the scsi bios? How? :>:>Any other suggestions? :>:> :>:I think you have to press CRTL-A when the SCSI BIOS is looking for connected devices, :>:and you should be able to configure it from there. :> :>Aha! Just after the memory test. I had been going Ctrl-A :>later, when the machine was already hung. :> :>I have disabled the bios but now the computer hangs earlier :>than before. After the bluesky screen, the screen goes black :>with a cursor in the top left corner (this is normal), but :>instead of disk activity and eventual booting, it just stays :>that way. : :What did you change in the SCSI BIOS? I disabled the BIOS :Do you have any other strange device drivers, such as NIC, modem, etc? No NiC I do have a PCMCIA modem device driver for an IBM 33.6 modem. I have disabled the internal modem. There don't seem to be any device conflicts in undocked mode. -- cheers Jonathan jberry@islandnet.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 11:40:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA11706 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05122; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:39:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:37:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04767; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:37:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.seanet.com (dns2.seanet.com [199.181.164.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04738; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:37:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.182.122.139 ([204.182.122.139]) by mx.seanet.com (8.8.8/Seanet-8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA28554; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:37:38 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: jberry@islandnet.com Cc: pkhoury@mindspring.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Dock II, 701, Win95, scsi Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:50:47 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Lines: 112 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: Update: I turned off the system bios by turning the switch block inside the case ON ON ON OFF (as indicated in User Guide page 79). However, I got the same hanging after the skyscreen in Windows95. Black screen, blinking cursor in upper left, sits there for over an hour, no disk activity. My next try was to dock and turn the key to the right locked position. (it had been in the neutral position up to then). This time the computer twice returned a message that the system board had failed (even though the diagnostics subsequently found the system board OK)! However, the computer then finally did boot in docked position, and although Win95 device manager showed a lot of conflicts, I could do things: hang a zipdrive off the parallel port and access it in a DOS window, use an external mouse and keyboard, attach the external 3.5" diskette drive to the DOCK II. My plans to back up my floppy hard drive to a new drive have been thwarted, however, because the IDE Cable is missing. (User Guide, page 3 lists the Dock II, Manual, Option Diskette, Power Cord, Security Lock Keys, IDE Cable, and CD-ROM Extension Cable as parts of the package. I received only the Dock II and the lock keys, was able to D/L the User Guide from the IBM web site) It looks like the pin spacing is closer than with a standard desktop IDE cable. On the other hand, I may be able to attach my new laptop drive without an adaptor. If I can get the right cable. Does anybody know where to get the IDE cable for the Dock II ? Does anybody know if non-hardrive IDE is possible on the Dock II ? I have since done a logged reboot. By uninstalling an IOMEGA ZIP pseudo-scsi device (for the parallel port), I was able to get rid of ppa3.mpd, which was failing. The end of the logged reboot (BOOTLOG.TXT) now shows: [00075F59] DEVICEINIT = VFAT [00075F5B] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = VFAT [00075F5C] DEVICEINIT = VDEF [00075F5D] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = VDEF [00075F62] Initing sparrow.mpd And that is where is hangs, every time now. I went to the Adaptec site and downloaded win95mpd, which is a set of device drivers updated for Win95. I removed the old drivers, and using "Add new Hardware" installed the new drivers as Adaptec AHA-150X / 1510 / 152X / AIC-6X60 SCSI Host Adaptor. This installed the updated Sparrow.mpd. I changed the IRQ from 10 to 11 and the I/O range to 0340-035F as indicated on Page 74 of the User Guide (remember that since Windows didn't boot with the computer docked, I had to do the installation undocked, so Win95 could not detect the IRQ or the ports). I rebooted and the system hangs at the bluesky Windows screen. I tried turning on the SCSI BIOS with the dipswitches and using Ctrl-A when the BIOS comes up. Same result. There don't seem to be any IRQ conflicts. Even if there were, Win95 should still boot. The system will boot to DOS when docked, or will boot normally to Win95 when undocked. :: ::>Do I need to do something like disable the scsi bios? How? ::>Any other suggestions? ::> ::I think you have to press CRTL-A when the SCSI BIOS is looking for connected devices, ::and you should be able to configure it from there. : :Aha! Just after the memory test. I had been going Ctrl-A :later, when the machine was already hung. : :I have disabled the bios but now the computer hangs earlier :than before. After the bluesky screen, the screen goes black :with a cursor in the top left corner (this is normal), but :instead of disk activity and eventual booting, it just stays :that way. : :The 701 still boots normally when undocked. : :: ::>My plan is to put an old IDE CD-ROM in the Dock II so that I can ::>have access to all that good stuff. :: ::I don't know if IDE is possible (because I thought about ::that also when I had my Dock). ::-- ::Paul Khoury | pkhoury@mindspring.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 760ED ::http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html :: :: : :-- :cheers :Jonathan :jberry@islandnet.com : -- cheers Jonathan jberry@islandnet.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 13:12:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA12694 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:12:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08477; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:11:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:11:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08337; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:11:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.seanet.com (dns2.seanet.com [199.181.164.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08308; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:10:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.182.122.139 ([204.182.122.139]) by mx.seanet.com (8.8.8/Seanet-8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA02001; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:10:55 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: jberry@islandnet.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Dock II, 701, Win95, scsi X-Newsgroups: list.thinkpad Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:10:14 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Lines: 51 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: I've made more tries: I boot to the IBM Dock II Option Diskette (diskette made from the file dock2100.exe). If at the main menu I choose 1. Test Expansion Unit, then Run the test one time, I receive the following message: Error No expansion unit is attached to the system. Power off the system and connect it to the IBM ThinkPad Dock II, then try again. Enter The unit is docked (for example, the computer booted off the floppy attached to the Dock II, not to the computer) ! The LED at the front of the Dock II confirms this, with the docked and powered symbol. If at the main menu I choose 2. Test SCSI Subsystem, the next screen is: SCSI Subsystem Diagnostics Utility v 1.1 Scanning Target #0 Enter F3=Exit and the system is hung. Neither Enter nor F3 does anything. After about 20 keypresses, the beep sounds when another key is pressed. The system still responds to Fn-F1, bringing up the Configuration Utility. Ctrl-Alt-Del reboots the computer. By removing the Options Disk, I was able to boot in Safe Mode. I discovered under Device Manager that there were three(!) different SCSI drivers all based on the Adaptec AIC-6Xwhatever. I removed two of them, leaving only the one with the correct IRQ and port. Reboot failed, as usual. I am able to boot in Safe Mode. Does anybody run a Dock II with a 701 under Win 95 ? -- cheers Jonathan jberry@islandnet.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 14:09:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA13257 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:09:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10732; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:08:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:07:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10608; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:07:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10592; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:07:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mmak (client-118-201.bellatlantic.net [151.198.118.201]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA14109; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:07:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001e01be5dcd$662915c0$c976c697@mmak> From: "Don" To: "thinkpad" , "Ron Heiby" Subject: Re: Rewire of power plug Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:07:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: -----Original Message----- From: Ron Heiby To: thinkpad Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Rewire of power plug >BTW, while on the subject of AC adapters: In my opinion, the AC adapter for >the 755CE is, with no exception, the finest piece of engineering and human >factors that I have ever found in an AC adapter for *any* product, *ever*. >Although I really like my new 770ED, it was a disappointment to see that the >new adapter did not carry forward the same design approach as my older one. In >particular: > > - The new one uses a much longer AC cord. The 755CE's AC cord was only about >six inches long. Long enough to not block multiple AC outlets, but short >enough to add insignificant weight and bulk for carrying. > Guess it's personal preference. I find the longer cord more useful as many times an accessable plug is not close by. The longer plug helps. > - The new one uses a different connector on the DC side, so I cannot use one >of the newer adapters with my older TP. (I know I can't go the other way, >since the new TP seems to require more power than the rating on the older >supplies.) > It definitely would be more useful if the plugs where more standard. Do the plugs come out on both sided of your power brick? I thought only the AC side unpluged and the DC side was permanently fixed to the brick.? Don From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 16:51:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA14819 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:51:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15418; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:48:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:42:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15070; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:42:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iex.net (mail.iex.net [192.156.196.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15056; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:42:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from scansrv (r7a006661ax.hlb.cable.rcn.com [209.122.66.230]) by mail.iex.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA11188 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:37:02 -0700 (MST) Received: by scansrv (VPOP3) with SMTP; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:42:23 -0500 Message-ID: <090301be5de3$10db4f00$0100a8c0@desktop> From: "Robert Briganti" To: Subject: Dock II and IDE Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:42:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0d - Registered to: LOMAX [DSI] List-Unsubscribe: I think I may have figured out a way to use a multiread CD with my 760ED by installing a multiread CD-ROM in my Dock II. One problem is trying to figure out how to fit the Dock II for an IDE drive. SCSI is built in but >from what I've read I need an "IDE Adaption Card" (which has been withdrawn) to make it work. Has anyone fitted their Dock II with IDE and if so how did you do it. Does anyone have any idea how to get an "IDE Adaption card?" Thanks. Bob From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 17:21:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA15063 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:21:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17125; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:19:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:15:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16842; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16827; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:15:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902212215.RAA16827@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Mon, 20 Feb 1989 15:13:00 -0800 (PST) From: "Victor Kress" To: "Thinkpad mailing list" Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:15:01 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: More on cases List-Unsubscribe: Hi, As I mentioned in reply to someone else's comment on this subject, I use a small padded case inside a backpack to carry my laptop. Lately I've been having paranoid visions of crashing my bicycle and smashing my precious TP600. I'm looking for something sturdier...something like the cases they use for the black box flight recorders in commercial airliners :). actually, what I would like is a hard shell case, either aluminum or fiberglass. I have considered standard lawyer/mba type briefcases, but the ones I have seen are too long to fit in my backpack. Does anybody sell something like this, but with dimensions not much bigger than the laptop? Preferably with the padding all set up to save me the trouble? Thanks. ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 17:44:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA15258 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18170; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:42:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:38:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17930; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:38:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17917; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:38:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.13.126]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990221223813.BMIV2401@770>; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:38:13 +0000 Message-ID: <36D08AAE.5F58@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:37:34 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Briganti CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Dock II and IDE References: <090301be5de3$10db4f00$0100a8c0@desktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I put a Toshiba 32X SCSI drive into the Dock 2. It is multi-read, and works great, and I use it with an external Ricoh SCSI burner to make CD-R Remember with IDE you will bounce drive letters - this could be a problem. I think SCSI is the way to go with this! Robert Briganti wrote: > > I think I may have figured out a way to use a multiread CD with my 760ED by > installing a multiread CD-ROM in my Dock II. One problem is trying to > figure out how to fit the Dock II for an IDE drive. SCSI is built in but > from what I've read I need an "IDE Adaption Card" (which has been withdrawn) > to make it work. > > Has anyone fitted their Dock II with IDE and if so how did you do it. Does > anyone have any idea how to get an "IDE Adaption card?" > > Thanks. > > Bob From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 17:54:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA15378 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:54:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18869; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:52:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:51:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18726; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com (camel8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18713; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:51:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from jpd (user-38ldfib.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.190.75]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA24104 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:51:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990221175101.007d7bb0@mindspring.com> X-Sender: jdiebold@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:51:01 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Jean-Pierre Diebold Subject: [TP770ED]: Windows 98 Shutdown Problem - Freezes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hello everybody, Me and several other 770ED owners are having the following problem: When I shut down Windows 98 and get the screen with the windows logo saying: 'Windows Is Shutting Down' then the computer just freezes at that screen and I have to manually turn off my machine. This does not happen all the time but it does happen quite often. Keep in mind that the only stuff I have plugged in is a printer, ext. modem and ext. monitor....no special cards, no network attached, etc. Also, when this happens and I do restart the machine the system does not go into scandisk...so at least the system does not register the freeze as an illegal shutdown when I have to manually turn it off... Any suggestions? Thank you guys. Jean-Pierre From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 18:26:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA15670 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:26:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20638; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:24:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:24:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20515; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:24:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20501; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:23:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:23:24 -0500 Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hil-img-10.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.7) with SMTP id SAA01037 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:23:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902212323.SAA01037@hil-img-10.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:22:42 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Buying a bigger HD List-Unsubscribe: I keep running out of room on the 4GB (2+2) drive in my TP600. A lot of it is data files, I zip them whenever I can, but right now I've got ~600MB free on C: and D: combined. :( The TP is my primary machine, both on the road and in the office. I've looked at the option of using a regular HD in an external enclosure, through the parallel port probably. Not a bad option cost-wise, but the Kensington enclosure I saw yesterday was pretty big (maybe 6" square?). Probably pretty cheap, and nice for moving drives between machines here, but I wouldn't want to haul it through airports! Another alternative would be to use the $20 IBM brackets. I gather these allow me to mount a 12.5mm drive in the bay, right? But if I understand correctly, I'd lose use of my CD-ROM when the HD is in [side question: what do people do with their CD drives when something else is in the bay? There's no enclosure]. I checked thinkpads.com and wonder about removing the 4GB entirely and putting in a bigger drive. I gather the 8.1GB for $599 or 6.4GB for U$379 would fit in the space occupied by my current drive? Would I need additional mounting hardware? The 6.4GB is $59.22/GB and the 8.1GB is $73.95/GB. Of course those prices will plummet, but is the extra capacity worth $220? What about the Apricorn drives? The prices on thinkpads.com are pretty high compared to the IBM. Migrating the existing data: I could probably do with a Win95 re-install (8 months since I got the TP!). Given my 2-partition configuration (as discussed to my enlightenment earlier :), would it be best to install from the recovery CD, then start installing apps from CD and downloaded patches? Or does something like EZ-GIG or PowerQuest help clean up the system as well? Finally, what do I do with the 4GB drive? I know I should break this habit of carrying every file with me, but it's so convenient! No advance planning. Guess I could save it in case I get a new cheapo desktop machine for the office. Thanks in advance for any and all advice! andrew ------ Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] SGML Mercenaries Division of World Wide Webbers Incorporated 1883 Featherston Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 6P6 Phone 613-523-2237 / Fax 613-523-6893 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 21:19:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA17209 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:19:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27038; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:15:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26866; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:15:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.41]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26852; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:15:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer ([12.78.195.26]) by mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990222021501.ERIW18143@oemcomputer>; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 02:15:01 +0000 Message-ID: <36D0BD66.234@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:13:58 -0500 From: Simon Bryquer Reply-To: sbryquer@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Webber CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Buying a bigger HD References: <199902212323.SAA01037@hil-img-10.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ever consider PCMCIA HD I have one it works great and very flexible, small ,lightweight and convenient. Take alook at this site: http://www.expnet.com/exp.htm Select STORAGE and it will give you numerous choices. SCB Andrew Webber wrote: > > I keep running out of room on the 4GB (2+2) drive in my TP600. A lot > of it is data files, I zip them whenever I can, but right now I've got > ~600MB free on C: and D: combined. :( > > The TP is my primary machine, both on the road and in the office. > > I've looked at the option of using a regular HD in an external > enclosure, through the parallel port probably. Not a bad option > cost-wise, but the Kensington enclosure I saw yesterday was pretty big > (maybe 6" square?). Probably pretty cheap, and nice for moving drives > between machines here, but I wouldn't want to haul it through airports! > > Another alternative would be to use the $20 IBM brackets. I gather > these allow me to mount a 12.5mm drive in the bay, right? But if I > understand correctly, I'd lose use of my CD-ROM when the HD is in [side > question: what do people do with their CD drives when something else is > in the bay? There's no enclosure]. > > I checked thinkpads.com and wonder about removing the 4GB entirely and > putting in a bigger drive. I gather the 8.1GB for $599 or 6.4GB for > U$379 would fit in the space occupied by my current drive? Would I > need additional mounting hardware? The 6.4GB is $59.22/GB and the > 8.1GB is $73.95/GB. Of course those prices will plummet, but is the > extra capacity worth $220? > > What about the Apricorn drives? The prices on thinkpads.com are pretty > high compared to the IBM. > > Migrating the existing data: I could probably do with a Win95 > re-install (8 months since I got the TP!). Given my 2-partition > configuration (as discussed to my enlightenment earlier :), would it be > best to install from the recovery CD, then start installing apps from > CD and downloaded patches? Or does something like EZ-GIG or PowerQuest > help clean up the system as well? > > Finally, what do I do with the 4GB drive? I know I should break this > habit of carrying every file with me, but it's so convenient! No > advance planning. Guess I could save it in case I get a new cheapo > desktop machine for the office. > > Thanks in advance for any and all advice! > > andrew > ------ > Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] > SGML Mercenaries > Division of World Wide Webbers Incorporated > 1883 Featherston Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 6P6 > Phone 613-523-2237 / Fax 613-523-6893 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 21:25:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA17281 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:25:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27527; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:23:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:22:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27399; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:22:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27379; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:22:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from atreyu (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id UAA09200 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:22:36 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990221202214.008226a0@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:22:14 -0600 To: "thinkpad" From: Ron Heiby Subject: Re: Rewire of power plug In-Reply-To: <001e01be5dcd$662915c0$c976c697@mmak> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 02:07 PM 2/21/99 -0500, Don wrote: >Guess it's personal preference. I find the longer cord more >useful as many times an accessable plug is not close by. >The longer plug helps. Well, yes, except that it seems that I traded getting a longer thick and heavy AC cord for a somewhat shorter thin and light DC cord. Also, with the old connector, I could either use a longer standard PC/Monitor power cord or add a 3-wire extension cord. So, I never found the 6-inch power cord a limitation. >Do the plugs come out on both sided of your power brick? >I thought only the AC side unpluged and the DC side was >permanently fixed to the brick.? You are correct. ONly the AC side can be removed from the brick (either old or new style). The DC cord (both old and new style) is permanently fixed to the brick. (Well, "permanent" unless you don't care about it not working any more!) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: My Primary Signing Key: 0xBFF69509 available from keyservers iQA/AwUBNtC/Rm8pw+2/9pUJEQKADgCdEhwqPkUkGFuDNFqbAQAm6drLOsoAoMjh BQ7FQwouOMtvP/BSrnb6/XJl =6XFg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 21:30:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA17333 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:30:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27996; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:27:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:27:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27798; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:27:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.41]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27767; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:27:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer ([12.78.195.26]) by mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990222022628.EVWP18143@oemcomputer>; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 02:26:28 +0000 Message-ID: <36D0BD66.234@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:13:58 -0500 From: Simon Bryquer Reply-To: sbryquer@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Webber CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Buying a bigger HD References: <199902212323.SAA01037@hil-img-10.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ever consider PCMCIA HD I have one it works great and very flexible, small ,lightweight and convenient. Take alook at this site: http://www.expnet.com/exp.htm Select STORAGE and it will give you numerous choices. SCB Andrew Webber wrote: > > I keep running out of room on the 4GB (2+2) drive in my TP600. A lot > of it is data files, I zip them whenever I can, but right now I've got > ~600MB free on C: and D: combined. :( > > The TP is my primary machine, both on the road and in the office. > > I've looked at the option of using a regular HD in an external > enclosure, through the parallel port probably. Not a bad option > cost-wise, but the Kensington enclosure I saw yesterday was pretty big > (maybe 6" square?). Probably pretty cheap, and nice for moving drives > between machines here, but I wouldn't want to haul it through airports! > > Another alternative would be to use the $20 IBM brackets. I gather > these allow me to mount a 12.5mm drive in the bay, right? But if I > understand correctly, I'd lose use of my CD-ROM when the HD is in [side > question: what do people do with their CD drives when something else is > in the bay? There's no enclosure]. > > I checked thinkpads.com and wonder about removing the 4GB entirely and > putting in a bigger drive. I gather the 8.1GB for $599 or 6.4GB for > U$379 would fit in the space occupied by my current drive? Would I > need additional mounting hardware? The 6.4GB is $59.22/GB and the > 8.1GB is $73.95/GB. Of course those prices will plummet, but is the > extra capacity worth $220? > > What about the Apricorn drives? The prices on thinkpads.com are pretty > high compared to the IBM. > > Migrating the existing data: I could probably do with a Win95 > re-install (8 months since I got the TP!). Given my 2-partition > configuration (as discussed to my enlightenment earlier :), would it be > best to install from the recovery CD, then start installing apps from > CD and downloaded patches? Or does something like EZ-GIG or PowerQuest > help clean up the system as well? > > Finally, what do I do with the 4GB drive? I know I should break this > habit of carrying every file with me, but it's so convenient! No > advance planning. Guess I could save it in case I get a new cheapo > desktop machine for the office. > > Thanks in advance for any and all advice! > > andrew > ------ > Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] > SGML Mercenaries > Division of World Wide Webbers Incorporated > 1883 Featherston Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 6P6 > Phone 613-523-2237 / Fax 613-523-6893 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 21:30:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA17339 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:30:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28193; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:28:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:27:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27873; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:27:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27827; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:27:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from atreyu (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id UAA09388; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:27:10 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990221202454.008366d0@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: heiby@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:24:54 -0600 To: Jean-Pierre Diebold From: Ron Heiby Subject: Re: [TP770ED]: Windows 98 Shutdown Problem - Freezes Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990221175101.007d7bb0@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 05:51 PM 2/21/99 -0500, Jean-Pierre Diebold wrote: >When I shut down Windows 98 and get the screen with the windows logo saying: >'Windows Is Shutting Down' then the computer just freezes at that screen >and I have to manually turn off my machine. This does not happen all the >time but it does happen quite often. Are you running Norton Utilities and/or Norton AntiVirus? There have been some issues with one or both of these causing frequent freezes at shutdown time. Most / All of these are supposed to be fixed with the latest few patches. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: My Primary Signing Key: 0xBFF69509 available from keyservers iQA/AwUBNtC/828pw+2/9pUJEQLA1wCffv3XhuHOVzaSwj5qjM5Veusj6roAoMDW RRnqnp1lU2WHBi84v1M2Yslo =iZ6e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 21 21:46:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA17461 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:46:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29304; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:43:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29193; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29173; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:43:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.13.132]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990222024300.EQBU2401@770>; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 02:43:00 +0000 Message-ID: <36D0C40E.19D3@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:42:22 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ron Heiby CC: Jean-Pierre Diebold , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP770ED]: Windows 98 Shutdown Problem - Freezes References: <3.0.5.32.19990221202454.008366d0@popmail.mcs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: For Norton to work properly, you need to do the online live update. There is also a shutdown issue with ie4, which of course is a part of W98 Ron Heiby wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > At 05:51 PM 2/21/99 -0500, Jean-Pierre Diebold wrote: > >When I shut down Windows 98 and get the screen with the windows logo saying: > >'Windows Is Shutting Down' then the computer just freezes at that screen > >and I have to manually turn off my machine. This does not happen all the > >time but it does happen quite often. > > Are you running Norton Utilities and/or Norton AntiVirus? There have been some > issues with one or both of these causing frequent freezes at shutdown time. > > Most / All of these are supposed to be fixed with the latest few patches. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 > Comment: My Primary Signing Key: 0xBFF69509 available from keyservers > > iQA/AwUBNtC/828pw+2/9pUJEQLA1wCffv3XhuHOVzaSwj5qjM5Veusj6roAoMDW > RRnqnp1lU2WHBi84v1M2Yslo > =iZ6e > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Ron. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 22 08:12:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA22009 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00900; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:10:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:07:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00730; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:07:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00707; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:07:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA10739 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:09:24 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199902221209.PAA10739@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:07:26 -0200 (IZM) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP600: Does your Win98 hibernate? List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Well, mine doesn't. Even when I have no PCMCIA cards in the machine; I hit FN-F12, and it "tries hard" to into hibernate, but comes back to the old tedious Win98 desktop instead :) And of course, the internal modem still does not work properly; insisting that the country I am calling from is not supported (no matter which country you select :) even with the new country files and new modem diskette set. Boy, it sure has been a great "upgrade" from Win95 ! "Where do you want to crash today?" - -turgut - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! 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From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 22 08:55:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA22261 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:55:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03530; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:53:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:52:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03418; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:52:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from infw1.bakerd.com (infw1.bakerd.com [208.216.217.173]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03405; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:52:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from [132.149.1.9] by infw1.bakerd.com via smtpd (for CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) with SMTP; 22 Feb 1999 13:52:45 UT Received: from BD-Message_Server by bakerd.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:54:15 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:54:02 -0500 From: "Kevin Toner" To: Subject: TP600: Does your Win98 hibernate? -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: My TP600 hibernates after pressing FN+F4. It awakes only when I press FN = alone. I had trouble with this "feature" until I downloaded and installed = a BIOS upgrade from the IBM web site. Kevin >>> "turgut kalfaoglu" 02/22/99 12:07pm >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Well, mine doesn't. Even when I have no PCMCIA cards in the machine; I hit = FN-F12, and it=20 "tries hard" to into hibernate, but comes back to the old tedious Win98 = desktop instead :) And of course, the internal modem still does not work properly; insisting = that the country I am=20 calling from is not supported (no matter which country you select :) even = with the new country=20 files and new modem diskette set. Boy, it sure has been a great "upgrade" from Win95 ! =20 "Where do you want to crash today?" - -turgut - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP = signature. Find-It! 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From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 22 11:24:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA24344 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:24:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13204; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:17:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:15:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13022; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:15:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAD (smtp4.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13006; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:15:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:14:34 -0500 Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by dub-img-ims-1.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.7) with SMTP id LAA29386 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:13:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902221613.LAA29386@dub-img-ims-1.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:13:25 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP600: Storing CD-ROM drive? List-Unsubscribe: What do people use to store their CD-ROM drive when it isn't in the UltraSlimBay? As I recall, the ThinkPad box included a couple of notes that said (paraphrasing) "please ignore all references to a CD-ROM carrying case; and don't even _think_ of sticking it in the floppy enclosure!". If I take out the CD-ROM, either to reduce travelling weight (unlikely) or to stick something else in the bay temporarily (more likely), how do I store it? get a pink (anti-static) bubble bag? Or is there a safer/more secure method? I don't necessarily need to _use_ the CD during this time, just protect it while I carry it around or leave it on my desk. Thanks! andrew ------ Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] SGML Mercenaries Division of World Wide Webbers Incorporated 1883 Featherston Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 6P6 Phone 613-523-2237 / Fax 613-523-6893 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 22 11:27:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA24380 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:27:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14252; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:25:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:25:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14116; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:25:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from infw1.bakerd.com (infw1.bakerd.com [208.216.217.173]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14102; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:25:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from [132.149.1.9] by infw1.bakerd.com via smtpd (for CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) with SMTP; 22 Feb 1999 16:25:11 UT Received: from BD-Message_Server by bakerd.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:26:43 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:26:23 -0500 From: "Kevin Toner" To: Subject: TP600: Storing CD-ROM drive? -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: I use a CaseLogic portable CD player pouch. They make several. I = selected a black one covered in a leather like substance. It has one = compartment for the player and one for holding Cds. The case is padded = and fits inside the outside pocket on my briefcase. I first bought some = extra CaseLogic CD sleeves to put in the pouch. I've since upgraded to a = small circular neopreme CD holder which holds about 10 disks and is small = enough to slide into the pounch with the Ultrabay CD-ROM drive in the = other compartment. I never travel with the external CD-ROM cartridge/cable= device that came with the computor. Kevin >>> "Andrew Webber" 02/22/99 11:13am >>> What do people use to store their CD-ROM drive when it isn't in the UltraSlimBay? As I recall, the ThinkPad box included a couple of notes that said (paraphrasing) "please ignore all references to a CD-ROM carrying case; and don't even _think_ of sticking it in the floppy enclosure!". If I take out the CD-ROM, either to reduce travelling weight (unlikely) or to stick something else in the bay temporarily (more likely), how do I store it? get a pink (anti-static) bubble bag?=20 Or is there a safer/more secure method? I don't necessarily need to _use_ the CD during this time, just protect it while I carry it around or leave it on my desk. Thanks! andrew ------ Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] SGML Mercenaries Division of World Wide Webbers Incorporated 1883 Featherston Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 6P6 Phone 613-523-2237 / Fax 613-523-6893 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 22 12:31:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA25247 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:31:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18286; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:23:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:21:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18130; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:21:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1.tm.net.my (mta1.tm.net.my [202.188.95.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18098; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:21:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from peter ([202.188.233.234]) by mta1.tm.net.my (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990223092341.MPUX507@peter> for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 01:23:41 -0800 Message-ID: <002e01be5e87$15269ac0$eae9bcca@peter> Reply-To: "Zilim" From: "Zilim" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Subject: Re: [TP770ED]: Windows 98 Shutdown Problem - Freezes Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 01:16:24 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Try disabing the 'Fast Shutdown' on Win98. 1) Start-Program -> Accessories -> System Tools -> System Information 2) Select Tools -> System Configuration Utility 3) Under 'General' click on Advanced and check 'Disable fast shutdown'. Btw, I totally disable System Doctor. I don't really need it as I perform weekly check-ups on my TP770ED with Norton Utilities. Hope it works. Regards, Peter -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Markowitz To: Ron Heiby Cc: Jean-Pierre Diebold ; THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [TP770ED]: Windows 98 Shutdown Problem - Freezes >For Norton to work properly, you need to do the online live update. >There is also a shutdown issue with >ie4, which of course is a part of W98 > >Ron Heiby wrote: >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> At 05:51 PM 2/21/99 -0500, Jean-Pierre Diebold wrote: >> >When I shut down Windows 98 and get the screen with the windows logo saying: >> >'Windows Is Shutting Down' then the computer just freezes at that screen >> >and I have to manually turn off my machine. This does not happen all the >> >time but it does happen quite often. >> >> Are you running Norton Utilities and/or Norton AntiVirus? There have been some >> issues with one or both of these causing frequent freezes at shutdown time. >> >> Most / All of these are supposed to be fixed with the latest few patches. >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 >> Comment: My Primary Signing Key: 0xBFF69509 available from keyservers >> >> iQA/AwUBNtC/828pw+2/9pUJEQLA1wCffv3XhuHOVzaSwj5qjM5Veusj6roAoMDW >> RRnqnp1lU2WHBi84v1M2Yslo >> =iZ6e >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> -- >> Ron. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 22 13:19:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA25814 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:19:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21867; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:08:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21684; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:08:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from fw1.uhc.com (gw.uhc.com [168.183.16.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21633; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:07:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from fw1.uhc.com (root@localhost) by fw1.uhc.com with ESMTP id LAA22086 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:08:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from dts-jl (DTS_JL.uhc.com [10.145.181.71]) by fw1.uhc.com with SMTP id LAA22079 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:08:30 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990222120737.00b3ba50@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:07:37 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: TP600: Storing CD-ROM drive? In-Reply-To: <199902221613.LAA29386@dub-img-ims-1.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:13 AM 2/22/99 -0500, Andrew Webber wrote: >What do people use to store their CD-ROM drive when it isn't in the >UltraSlimBay? As I recall, the ThinkPad box included a couple of >notes that said (paraphrasing) "please ignore all references to a >CD-ROM carrying case; and don't even _think_ of sticking it in the >floppy enclosure!". > I don't know why IBM didn't think of making the floppy enclosure to hold either the floppy drive or the CD-ROM or, if they did think of it and rejected it, why they chose not to. Same thing for Imation and their Superdisk drive - won't fit in the floppy enclosure because of a stupid piece of plastic that does nothing except replace the bezel. Anyway, enough of that - this may or may not work for you. In a prior life, I used to support COBOL development software on multiple platforms (DOS/Win31, NT and OS/2). Since the largest hard drive I could get at the time was 810MB, I had to have multiple hard drives, and I used small camera cases that I got at Wal Mart/K-Mart/Something Mart to carry them in. They're already padded, and I usually lined them with a piece of bubble wrap (the kind with the tiny bubbles) as well. The ones I used for hard drives were less than $5. I haven't looked for one lately, so I don't know if there'll be one that's the right size and shape for the CD-ROM. Hope this helps! Jane From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 22 13:33:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA26063 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23387; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:24:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:22:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23133; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:22:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23099; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:22:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from paddy (mg131-039.ricochet.net [204.179.131.39]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA06387; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:22:05 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Andrew Webber" , Subject: RE: Buying a bigger HD Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:22:03 -0800 Message-ID: <005801be5e90$3e905320$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199902212323.SAA01037@hil-img-10.compuserve.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: The 8Gb drive is 17mm; it won't fit in your 600. IBM's 10Gb 12.5mm model is coming out sometime very soon--it's been listed on www.storage.ibm.com for a while now. Pull out your current drive when you get a chance and take a look at it. You'll see a metal mounting tray with a piece of blue tape and four screws holding it to the actual drive itself. You can use that tray with any new drive, or buy another tray from thinkpads.com for $20. I strongly recommend you get the extra tray and also the UltraslimBay 2nd HDD Adapter. Then you can put both drives in at once when you want, or take out the second one when you want to put something else in the bay. I did this when I got a 6.4Gb drive--now I keep the 4Gb in the second bay. All installed software is on the main 6.4Gb drive, so the system will still run the same if I pull out the 4Gb--I use it for big downloads, backup files, things like that. When you have the ability to put two drives in the machine, it becomes very easy to transfer your system from one to the other. If you really *want* to reinstall Windows and all your apps, be my guest, but you certainly don't need to go to all that work. Just buy Drive Copy for $29 and let it transfer everything for you. No, it won't clean up old gunk in your registry, but there are other tools for that. My point here is if you want to nuke your Windows installation for some reason and start over, that's a separate question from upgrading to a new drive, and I don't think it's wise to let one decision determine the other. Are you having problems with your Windows apps? That's probably a better reason (or lack of reason) to think about cleaning up the system. I believe the Apricorn drives are higher because they include an EZ-Gig kit, which plugs into the PCMCIA socket and copies the drive for you. EZ-Gig is a real nice setup if you have a machine that can't take a second drive. But less than $100 will buy you the drive mounting tray, 2nd HDD Adapter, and Drive Copy or a similar program, letting you transfer everything *and* have the ability to run both drives when you want. A much better deal. Prices on the 6.4Gb drive have dropped considerably: http://shopper.com/prdct/734/472.html I would Bill Morrow at thinkpads.com a call regardless and see what his current prices are, since he has the drive mounting tray that you won't find other places, and his service will be better than the places that just move boxes. I think Bill sells the 2nd HDD Adapter too, but in case he doesn't, you can check: http://shopper.com/prdct/973/472.html Regarding your "habit" of carrying every file with you because it's so convenient, that's one habit you ought to keep. Is your computer's purpose to serve your needs, or is your purpose to serve your computer's needs? -Mike > I keep running out of room on the 4GB (2+2) drive in my TP600. A lot > of it is data files, I zip them whenever I can, but right now I've got > ~600MB free on C: and D: combined. :( > > The TP is my primary machine, both on the road and in the office. > > I've looked at the option of using a regular HD in an external > enclosure, through the parallel port probably. Not a bad option > cost-wise, but the Kensington enclosure I saw yesterday was pretty big > (maybe 6" square?). Probably pretty cheap, and nice for moving drives > between machines here, but I wouldn't want to haul it through airports! > > Another alternative would be to use the $20 IBM brackets. I gather > these allow me to mount a 12.5mm drive in the bay, right? But if I > understand correctly, I'd lose use of my CD-ROM when the HD is in [side > question: what do people do with their CD drives when something else is > in the bay? There's no enclosure]. > > I checked thinkpads.com and wonder about removing the 4GB entirely and > putting in a bigger drive. I gather the 8.1GB for $599 or 6.4GB for > U$379 would fit in the space occupied by my current drive? Would I > need additional mounting hardware? The 6.4GB is $59.22/GB and the > 8.1GB is $73.95/GB. Of course those prices will plummet, but is the > extra capacity worth $220? > > What about the Apricorn drives? The prices on thinkpads.com are pretty > high compared to the IBM. > > Migrating the existing data: I could probably do with a Win95 > re-install (8 months since I got the TP!). Given my 2-partition > configuration (as discussed to my enlightenment earlier :), would it be > best to install from the recovery CD, then start installing apps from > CD and downloaded patches? Or does something like EZ-GIG or PowerQuest > help clean up the system as well? > > Finally, what do I do with the 4GB drive? I know I should break this > habit of carrying every file with me, but it's so convenient! No > advance planning. Guess I could save it in case I get a new cheapo > desktop machine for the office. > > Thanks in advance for any and all advice! > > andrew > ------ > Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] > SGML Mercenaries > Division of World Wide Webbers Incorporated > 1883 Featherston Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 6P6 > Phone 613-523-2237 / Fax 613-523-6893 > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 22 14:36:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA26733 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:36:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29580; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:32:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:29:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29224; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:29:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29206; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:29:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:28:25 -0500 Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.7) with SMTP id OAA16087 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:27:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902221927.OAA16087@hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:27:17 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Buying a bigger HD List-Unsubscribe: Thanks for your comments! On Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:22:03 -0800, Michael Geary wrote: >The 8Gb drive is 17mm; it won't fit in your 600. IBM's 10Gb 12.5mm model is >coming out sometime very soon--it's been listed on www.storage.ibm.com for a >while now. thinkpads.com says the 8Gb is out in 12.5mm. But the IBM site only lists 6Gb and 10Gb for my machine ( http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/ModelLookup2/264551U?OpenDocu ment&89,90 ). Maybe I can get hold of a human at IBM sales and find out what's actually shipping. >I strongly recommend you get the extra tray and also the UltraslimBay 2nd >HDD Adapter. Then you can put both drives in at once when you want, or take >out the second one when you want to put something else in the bay. I did >this when I got a 6.4Gb drive--now I keep the 4Gb in the second bay. All >installed software is on the main 6.4Gb drive, so the system will still run >the same if I pull out the 4Gb--I use it for big downloads, backup files, >things like that. And maybe Linux and a mess of mp3's (elminating one big but rarely-admitted requirement for the CD-ROM drive :). >My point here is if you want to nuke your Windows installation for some >reason and start over, that's a separate question from upgrading to a new >drive, and I don't think it's wise to let one decision determine the other. >Are you having problems with your Windows apps? That's probably a better >reason (or lack of reason) to think about cleaning up the system. No specific problems, but I've installed and removed and lot of stuff over the last 8 months and I was thinking it would be a good time to do it, since I'd be moving from C: and D: to just C:, I think. Not that I'd _have_ to do it. Then again, change one thing at a time, right? :) >I believe the Apricorn drives are higher because they include an EZ-Gig kit, >which plugs into the PCMCIA socket and copies the drive for you. EZ-Gig is a >real nice setup if you have a machine that can't take a second drive. But >less than $100 will buy you the drive mounting tray, 2nd HDD Adapter, and >Drive Copy or a similar program, letting you transfer everything *and* have >the ability to run both drives when you want. A much better deal. That's a point, if I can mount the old drive (which I can, as you say), it should be easy to transfer. >I would Bill Morrow at thinkpads.com a call regardless and see what his >current prices are, since he has the drive mounting tray that you won't find >other places, and his service will be better than the places that just move >boxes. I think Bill sells the 2nd HDD Adapter too, but in case he doesn't, >you can check: Thanks for the pointers. >Regarding your "habit" of carrying every file with you because it's so >convenient, that's one habit you ought to keep. Is your computer's purpose >to serve your needs, or is your purpose to serve your computer's needs? I'm happy to hear it's not "just me". :) After all, this is how I ended up with the TP600: the alternative was to get something slow like a P120/10" for about $1000-$1200 and keep using the desktop machine. But the thought of having to decide what I'd need and wouldn't need on the road was just too much for me. 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 22 14:58:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA27040 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02223; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:56:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:54:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01955; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:54:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01929; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:54:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp131.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.131]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id NAA25932 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:54:13 -0600 (CST) From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: TP600: Does your Win98 hibernate? Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:52:43 -0600 Message-ID: <001701be5e9c$e91db560$0200a8c0@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <199902221209.PAA10739@home.egenet.com.tr> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I'm going to hazard a guess that hibernation issues are more likely BIOS glitches than software problems. I've had similar problems, and usually solved them by tinkering with BIOS, and by changing from AC power to battery once or twice (this seems to reset a lot of things, oddly, including the occasional failure of my hard drive to spin down on schedule). BTW, Mr. Toner, in the case of my 1720 at least, Fn+F4 isn't hibernate -- it's sleep, which doesn't swap memory to disk, and uses some battery power to maintain RAM. Fn+F12 is hibernate, which wakes only via the power switch, and that's the one I've had occasional trouble with. Is this different on the 600? I'm wary of BIOS updates, incidentally, ever since I read of someone who trashed a board because IBM had posted an incorrect BIOS version. (IBM replaced the board.) I prefer to wait a few weeks after a new BIOS update is posted, and let someone else field-test it! > -----Original Message----- > From: turgut kalfaoglu [mailto:turgut@egenet.com.tr] > Sent: Monday, February 22, 1999 11:07 AM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: TP600: Does your Win98 hibernate? > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Well, mine doesn't. Even when I have no PCMCIA cards in the > machine; I hit FN-F12, and it > "tries hard" to into hibernate, but comes back to the old tedious > Win98 desktop instead :) > > And of course, the internal modem still does not work properly; > insisting that the country I am > calling from is not supported (no matter which country you select > :) even with the new country > files and new modem diskette set. > > Boy, it sure has been a great "upgrade" from Win95 ! > > "Where do you want to crash today?" > > - -turgut > > - -- > turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain > my PGP signature. > Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr > http://bbsturk.bbs.tr > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 > Charset: noconv > > iQCVAwUBNtGOzjJjYwErN0xZAQGT6QP9HjvOBJ3hlrSVS+PMySjGOCoutP3/hLqS > 85jEQvoG3AeKc9dQ0zTxcxpiaEpZ1lMCpE7niaS8iCXSDjvoPPtuiH3x0F8UDq2j > tosTGvoh69XnxAMfLJy5E+rjxiFtG401C3LFqWaX9KPpOrrRpp8aiXUy7qQNozbj > 7gPHreIc8uk= > =iG/Q > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Windows Error 00A: Promotional literature overflow. Mailbox full. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 22 15:10:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA27149 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:10:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03369; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:08:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:06:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03006; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:06:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02988; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:06:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp131.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.131]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id OAA27348 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:05:59 -0600 (CST) From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: [TP770ED]: Windows 98 Shutdown Problem - Freezes Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:04:28 -0600 Message-ID: <001801be5e9e$8d81f2a0$0200a8c0@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <36D0C40E.19D3@worldnet.att.net> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I must admit that the shutdown-hang issues are among the most infuriating Windows problems. It's one thing to have something not work properly; it's something else entirely when you can't even shut it off cleanly if you have to leave in a hurry! I've learned to be scrupulously careful installing Windows. I run a clean install, add OEM drivers as necessary to eliminate complaints in device manager, and then run the updates for Windows and IE4, individually, rebooting after EVERY one whether it asks or not. I don't install many games or any questionable software, and I wait a bit after new patches to make sure they don't cause other people problems. I've also learned not to over-customize -- Even Tweak UI allows you to do some things which I don't recommend. For instance, changing the default "common program files" folder is handy if your partition size is limited, but guess what? It broke msinfo32, which stores info in that folder, and will never find it again if the default is changed. Shutdown hangs at least seem consistently related to one thing or another. Network cards, especially, can be troublesome, although Mr. Diebold indicates that he doesn't have one -- in particular, too many mapped network drives will most assuredly cause a shutdown freeze. Unmount those suckers before you shut down. In some cases, however, a clean install is the only way out. I've been doing that every couple of months, which makes me the laughingstock of local Unix admins, who never even need their root passwords ... =) Windows CAN be stable. Trouble is, it takes experience and diligence to make it so, and not everyone has the time or inclination to be so careful. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Markowitz [mailto:scosgt@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 1999 8:42 PM > To: Ron Heiby > Cc: Jean-Pierre Diebold; THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: [TP770ED]: Windows 98 Shutdown Problem - Freezes > > > For Norton to work properly, you need to do the online live update. > There is also a shutdown issue with > ie4, which of course is a part of W98 > > Ron Heiby wrote: > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > At 05:51 PM 2/21/99 -0500, Jean-Pierre Diebold wrote: > > >When I shut down Windows 98 and get the screen with the > windows logo saying: > > >'Windows Is Shutting Down' then the computer just freezes at > that screen > > >and I have to manually turn off my machine. This does not > happen all the > > >time but it does happen quite often. > > > > Are you running Norton Utilities and/or Norton AntiVirus? There > have been some > > issues with one or both of these causing frequent freezes at > shutdown time. > > > > Most / All of these are supposed to be fixed with the latest > few patches. > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 > > Comment: My Primary Signing Key: 0xBFF69509 available from keyservers > > > > iQA/AwUBNtC/828pw+2/9pUJEQLA1wCffv3XhuHOVzaSwj5qjM5Veusj6roAoMDW > > RRnqnp1lU2WHBi84v1M2Yslo > > =iZ6e > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > -- > > Ron. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 22 15:27:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA27329 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:27:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05327; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:25:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:24:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05132; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:24:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05111; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:24:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinky (user-38ld15j.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.132.179]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA15310 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:24:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902222024.PAA15310@camel7.mindspring.com> X-Sender: highwire@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:24:22 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Greg Lara Subject: 1. Q. about TP600 2. 560X for sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi all. I'm looking at a used TP600, and I have a question: could someone here let me know what items (devices, accessory-type things, etc.) come with a new unit, so that I can compare that with what I will be getting with the used one? Also, I'd like to sell my nearly new 560X (2640-70U): Items marked with a * are extras (i.e. beyond what you'd get with a standard new unit) Pentium 233 MMX 96MB RAM (32 std + *64 extra. It's maxed out.) 4 gig HD 12.1" TFT Active Matrix screen *External 4X Panasonic PCMCIA CD-ROM *US Robotics 28.8 PCMCIA Modem Windows NT 4.0 SP3 (or Win 95 on request) External floppy *Carrying Case 4 pounds All manuals and doo-dads 10 months left on original warranty *1-year extended warranty It's in excellent condition, has been babied since birth, no dead pixels. I love the speed and size of it, but my work requires the extra screen resolution the 600 offers. Best offer over $1400 + actual shipping costs Thanks, Greg L. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 22 15:31:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA27386 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:31:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05738; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:29:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:29:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05601; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:29:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05585; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:29:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer ([12.77.217.175]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990222202841.HARF1302@oemcomputer>; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:28:41 +0000 Message-ID: <36D1BDF8.3E17@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:28:41 -0500 From: Birger Petterson X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Webber CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP600: Storing CD-ROM drive? References: <199902221613.LAA29386@dub-img-ims-1.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I just use a ZipLoc sandwich bag. CD,floppy,hhd,battery,adapter,microphones. Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 22 19:38:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA00421 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:38:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22353; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:35:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:32:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22115; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:32:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22090; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:32:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl (user-38s05pt.dialup.mindspring.com [209.192.23.61]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA20182 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:32:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990222193137.00afab30@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:31:37 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: TP600: Storing CD-ROM drive? In-Reply-To: <36D1BDF8.3E17@worldnet.att.net> References: <199902221613.LAA29386@dub-img-ims-1.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 03:28 PM 2/22/99 -0500, Birger Petterson wrote: >I just use a ZipLoc sandwich bag. >CD,floppy,hhd,battery,adapter,microphones. > Those ZipLoc/Hefty/etc bags with the zipper on them are useful for all kinds of things. Like you, I keep my notebook bits and pieces like the AC Adapter, cables, etc in them. They're also great for packing anything for travel like toiletries, shoes, etc. The toiletry bags, shaving kits, shoe bags from the department store are nice, but with a cheap plastic bag (get the freezer ones - they're tougher) if shampoo leaks or shoes are damp or dirty, it's pretty well confined. If you tuck a couple of extras in your suitcase, you can just toss the sticky or dirty bag and have a clean one with no guilty feelings. Just call me Heloise! Jane From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 22 20:01:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA00725 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:01:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23503; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:55:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:54:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23410; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:54:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23395; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:54:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldgdm.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.193.182]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA16386; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:54:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902230054.TAA16386@camel14.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Mark Gardiner" <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 99 16:54:14 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Rewire of power plug List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:14:22 -0500, Mark Gardiner wrote: >I am wary of my AC plug - the part which coonects to the back of the Tpad - >as it is showing signs of fatigue where the lead exits the large moulding. >It looks like this moulding is sealed?? How to rewire the connector if it >fails?? Which ThinkPad is this for? -- Paul Khoury | pkhoury@mindspring.com | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 22 20:07:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA00813 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24302; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:05:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:04:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24197; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24177; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:04:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldgdm.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.193.182]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA14755; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:04:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902230104.UAA14755@camel14.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "letoured@sover.net" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Turgut Kalfaoglu" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 99 17:04:18 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Any tips on cleaning out Win98 crud? List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:25:39 +0000, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: >On a similar note; did anyone try to load Aurora on Thinkpad 6000's ? >I wonder if/how it would work! I think Aurora is meant more as a server than a client OS. IBM actually sent me a copy (surprisingly), but I didn't have any extra machines to try it on. =( -- Paul Khoury | pkhoury@mindspring.com | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 22 20:36:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA01224 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:36:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26538; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:35:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:33:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26321; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:33:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.i1.net (root@mail1.i1.net [207.230.32.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26307; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:33:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from oma.com (pm3-8stl163.xtraport.net [209.74.139.163]) by mail1.i1.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02532 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:53:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <36D20565.30AA67AB@oma.com> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:33:25 -0600 From: Brian Button Organization: Object Mentor, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: (770X) Looking for good traveling case Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I'm about to start traveling twice a month, and I'm looking for a good case for my 770X. I'd like to carry the TP itself, its various adapters, a few CDs, some magazines, and maybe my Palm Pilot cradle. This should be a pretty typical bundle for a traveling techie :) Any suggestions? I'm much less concerned about cost than about durability and convenience. BTW - this is the second time I sent this. It never showed up the first time... Thanks, bab -- Brian Button bbutton@oma.com Senior Consultant Object Mentor, Inc. Products Review Editor C++ Report Magazine From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Feb 22 20:58:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA01531 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:58:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27730; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:56:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27611; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:56:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.41]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27596; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:56:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer ([12.77.216.163]) by mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990223015535.FCMZ3839@oemcomputer>; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 01:55:35 +0000 Message-ID: <36D20A97.1AB2@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:55:36 -0500 From: Birger Petterson X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Button CC: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: (770X) Looking for good traveling case References: <36D20565.30AA67AB@oma.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Vist a photo store. I use a PELICAN 1500 FOR my 770X. Get foam and cutout to fit. Watertite etc.Expect to pay in excess of $100. Halliburton (Zero) Aluminum with foam about $250. They even have one for slimline notebook at $200. Check out Popular Photography Mag. Gee I spent all your money, but your ThinkPad is safe. After you get your case,spray or brush some paint on it. That way fewer people will consider picking it up. Birger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 23 04:53:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA05621 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 04:53:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20663; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 04:51:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 04:49:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20549; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 04:49:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (home.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20491; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 04:49:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (turgut@tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA21591; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:50:54 +0300 (EET) Message-Id: <199902230850.LAA21591@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Paul Khoury" Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:48:53 -0200 (IZM) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <199902230104.UAA14755@camel14.mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Any tips on cleaning out Win98 crud? List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 22 Feb 99 17:04:18 -0800, Paul Khoury wrote: >On Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:25:39 +0000, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: >>On a similar note; did anyone try to load Aurora on Thinkpad 6000's ? >>I wonder if/how it would work! >I think Aurora is meant more as a server than a client OS. IBM actually >sent me a copy (surprisingly), but I didn't have any extra machines to try it on. =( Me either; OS/2 on thinkpad works so well (sound, modem, shutdown, suspend, everything!) that I'd hate to risk it for a beta version of the new OS/2.. I tried Aurora on two desktop machines (both far east clones) and it quit at the beginning of the install saying it could not operate the diskette or the HD.. - -t - -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! 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From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 23 09:22:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA07156 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:22:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06711; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:21:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:18:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06476; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (cave@cavecreations.com [192.41.27.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06454; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:18:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id HAA11912; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:18:33 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:18:33 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199902231418.HAA11912@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux and Thinkpad 600E List-Unsubscribe: Running RedHat 5.2 on my Thinkpad 600E (XGA, 24bpp). I'm having trouble dropping the screen resolution to 800x600 (need this mode for use on an external projector). My /etc/X11/XF86Config file is the standard RedHat XFree version supporting Neomagic -- has been untouched. Anyone have any luck? I know I'll get screen stretching at 800x600 on the LCD, but that's fine. Do I need to do something to my XF86Config, or am I getting the keystrokes wrong (since the Thinkpad has no keypad). -Al -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998,1999 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 23 11:21:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA08498 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:21:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13355; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:19:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:17:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13143; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:17:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13121; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:17:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgoldman.vip.best.com (adsl-216-101-170-226.dsl.pacbell.net [216.101.170.226]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id IAA06955 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:15:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990223080838.00bb28e0@shell9.ba.best.com> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:15:04 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: RE: Buying a bigger HD In-Reply-To: <005801be5e90$3e905320$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> References: <199902212323.SAA01037@hil-img-10.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: With all the recent talk about installing a bigger hard drive, I thought I'd look and see what options I had for a larger HD in my TP 380z (2635-JBU). Currently, the TP has a 4.0 GB HD and the only documentation I can find from IBM (dated 9/98) indicates that I can have either of two HD models installed: 02K0518 = 6.4 GB 13ms Ultra DMA/33 05K8871 = 4.0 GB 13ms Obviously, the IBM documentation is getting older and doesn't talk about whether or not I can use the new 10GB or 14GB hard drives. I also cannot find any information about the physical specs of the current hard drive (12.5mm, 17mm, etc) Anybody with additional information or a URL (or updated IBM doc), please let me know. Thanks in advance. -- David Goldman From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 23 12:42:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA09604 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:42:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18772; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:40:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:39:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18546; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:39:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate1.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18526; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:38:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from paddy (mg131-039.ricochet.net [204.179.131.39]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA25115; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:38:49 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "Andrew Webber" , Subject: RE: Buying a bigger HD Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:38:48 -0800 Message-ID: <001a01be5f53$5e4de4c0$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199902221927.OAA16087@hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com> List-Unsubscribe: > thinkpads.com says the 8Gb is out in 12.5mm. But the IBM site only > lists 6Gb and 10Gb for my machine ( > http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/ModelLookup2/264551U?OpenDocu > ment&89,90 ). Maybe I can get hold of a human at IBM sales and > find out what's actually shipping. Oh--you're right. The 12.5mm Travelstar 10GT comes in both 8.1Gb and 10Gb sizes. I missed the 8.1Gb model when I looked earlier. I don't think either one is shipping yet, except to OEMs--I've been looking on shopper.com and other places and haven't seen them yet. Don't worry about what IBM says is available for the TP600. That's probably talking about the much more expensive IBM Options drives. Any 12.5mm Travelstar will fit. > >Regarding your "habit" of carrying every file with you because it's so > >convenient, that's one habit you ought to keep. Is your > computer's purpose > >to serve your needs, or is your purpose to serve your computer's > needs? > > I'm happy to hear it's not "just me". :) After all, this is how I > ended up with the TP600: the alternative was to get something slow > like a P120/10" for about $1000-$1200 and keep using the desktop > machine. But the thought of having to decide what I'd need and > wouldn't need on the road was just too much for me. So I've got > everything all the time. :) I use a lot of that extra space to store CD-ROM images and such. The two CD-ROMs I use most often are MSDN (Microsoft Developer Network) and the Thomas Guide (street map of the SF Bay Area). So I loaded them both onto the hard drive and never have to carry the CD-ROMs around. -Mike From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 23 12:54:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA09819 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:54:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19821; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:51:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:51:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19704; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:51:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from server.divms.uiowa.edu (IDENT:0@server.divms.uiowa.edu [128.255.28.165]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19688; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:51:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pig.cs.uiowa.edu (pig.cs.uiowa.edu [128.255.28.207]) by server.divms.uiowa.edu with id LAA17119 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:51:11 -0600 (CST) From: Esmail Bonakdarian Message-Id: <199902231751.LAA17119@server.divms.uiowa.edu> Subject: [560] recharge dead .. To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:50:48 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: esmail@uiowa.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello Everyone, The recharging on my TP 560x doesn't seem to work any longer. It worked yesterday afternoon. I suspended the machine then and this morning the battery was at zero (I was using Linux and occasionally the APM doesn't quite work right, so this didn't surprise me too much). So, no big deal I thought, this has happened before, I'll just plug it in and it'll charge. But no go. Same thing under Windows. The machine works, but it just doesn't charge. The orange battery light just sits there blinking, batter charge stays at 0% and if I pull out the power cord, the machine goes down, so there is no residual charge. Nothing traumatic happened to the machine between yesterday and today. I ran the start up diagnostics for the motherboard and memory and all is fine. Any idea what could be the culprit? Dead battery? Bad recharging circuit? (can they just replace that, or does the whole motherboard have to be swapped?). It is definetly plugged in correctly, both Linux and Win95 detect the AC input. Could the battery be dead because it got totally drained a few times? The battery (and the TP650x itself) is only about 6 months old. Any suggestions before I phone IBM support? Esmail PS: Please also e-mail me your replies, patience is not one of my virtues. I get the list in digest format and I'd have to wait until sometime tomorrow to read your replies otherwise. Thanks! ---- Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak - We must come to see with the distinguished jurist of yesterday that "justice too long delayed is justice denied." Marting Luther King 1963 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 23 14:49:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA11499 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24257; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:38:43 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23545; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id NAA13531 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:38:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04717; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:19:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id OAA06497 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:19:45 -0600 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:19:45 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Help installing RedHat Linux on 750P Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I've got an old 750P that I'd like to use as a file and print server, but I'm having a little trouble installing RedHat Linux 5.2 on it. The machine has no CD-ROM, so I have to install using FTP or SMB. My NIC (IBM Home&Away Modem/NIC) should be supported with the supplemental floppy. However, because of the wacky 2.88MB floppy drive and its sense signal, RedHat's installation software cannot mount that floppy when it should. I'd appreciate it of someone could give me a few pointers to getting linux running on this slow but reliable machine. Many thanks, Chris Schumann From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 23 14:57:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA11627 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:57:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24260; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:38:53 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23571; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:38:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id NAA13541 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:38:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.i1.net (root@mail1.i1.net [207.230.32.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17530; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:30:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from oma.com (pm3-5stl6.xtraport.net [209.74.139.6]) by mail1.i1.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03601 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:49:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <36D088F1.97A84605@oma.com> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:30:09 -0600 From: Brian Button Organization: Object Mentor, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: (770X) Looking for good traveling case Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I'm about to start traveling twice a month, and I'm looking for a good case for my 770X. I'd like to carry the TP itself, its various adapters, a few CDs, some magazines, and maybe my Palm Pilot cradle. This should be a pretty typical bundle for a traveling techie :) Any suggestions? I'm much less concerned about cost than about durability and convenience. Thanks, bab -- Brian Button bbutton@oma.com Senior Consultant Object Mentor, Inc. Products Review Editor C++ Report Magazine From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 23 15:04:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA11731 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:04:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24262; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:42:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:38:34 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23523; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:38:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id NAA13521 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:38:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01072; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:43:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-095.usc.edu [128.125.223.95]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id LAA08005; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:43:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990222111652.00b3f580@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:19:23 -0800 To: "Andrew Webber" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: TP600: Storing CD-ROM drive? In-Reply-To: <199902221613.LAA29386@dub-img-ims-1.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:13 AM 2/22/99 -0500, you wrote: >What do people use to store their CD-ROM drive when it isn't in the >UltraSlimBay? As I recall, the ThinkPad box included a couple of >notes that said (paraphrasing) "please ignore all references to a >CD-ROM carrying case; and don't even _think_ of sticking it in the >floppy enclosure!". >likely), how do I store it? get a pink (anti-static) bubble bag? >Or is there a safer/more secure method? Its really such a shame...I had a brief interlude with an NEC Versa just a short while before my TP 600, and the one thing the Versa had over the 600 was the fact that it came with a nice little zip-closure soft leather case to store the CD or Floppy in when not inserted into the computer. It was just *soooo* nice! It's really disappointing that IBM missed this one, as they're usually pretty good at covering the little things that make it worthwhile to pay for a ThinkPad over lesser machines. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 23 15:11:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA11840 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:11:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24574; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:39:42 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23739; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:39:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id NAA13584 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:39:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from deimos.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de (deimos.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.17.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04317; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:40:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hal.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (hal.cl-ki.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.141.2]) by deimos.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24338 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:40:53 +0100 Received: from leon.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (leon.cl-ki.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.141.232]) by hal.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA22856 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:40:51 +0100 Received: from localhost (krumeich@localhost) by leon.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA00443 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:14:13 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: leon.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de: krumeich owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:14:13 +0100 (MET) From: Alexander Krumeich Reply-To: Alexander Krumeich To: ThinkPad List Subject: Once again: TP600 Batteries Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, around January 12th I started a small discussion on this list about the naughty behaviour of the battery in my TP600. It would discharge from 30% to 5% in an instant. At that time, several people on this list confirmed this to be typical of the TP600. Alas, I must say that the situation has become worse: Now the jump to 5% comes already at 50% charge left. The curious thing is that when I recharge the battery to approx. 30% and pull the plug then, the machine will give me the whole 30% of power that the xapm gauge says is left---without any further jumps. Again: Confirmation? Explanation? Consolation? :-) TIA, Alexander -- Alexander Krumeich http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ Never trust a HAL 9000 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 23 15:13:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA11879 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:13:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24582; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:39:34 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23706; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:39:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id NAA13574 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:39:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21015; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:12:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from holygrail (mg130-145.ricochet.net [204.179.130.145]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA00261; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:11:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <032c01be5ec1$1e05fac0$0201a8c0@holygrail.brightware.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: , "Greg Lara" Subject: Re: 1. Q. about TP600 2. 560X for sale Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:11:48 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I have had good success selling Photographic gear on eBay. They also have a computer section. Here is a link to a closed auction for a TP 600 as an example. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=68772363 (I have no affiliation with this vendor or eBay other than the few sales that I mentioned above. It has been an easy and useful way to move on extra gear.) Check it out and maybe sell your unit there. It's easy and can be a much better deal than trying to sell as you are at a fixed offer price. Good luck. David -----Original Message----- From: Greg Lara To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 3:56 PM Subject: 1. Q. about TP600 2. 560X for sale >Hi all. I'm looking at a used TP600, and I have a question: could someone >here let me know what items (devices, accessory-type things, etc.) come >with a new unit, so that I can compare that with what I will be getting >with the used one? > >Also, I'd like to sell my nearly new 560X (2640-70U): >Items marked with a * are extras (i.e. beyond what you'd get with a >standard new unit) >Pentium 233 MMX >96MB RAM (32 std + *64 extra. It's maxed out.) >4 gig HD >12.1" TFT Active Matrix screen >*External 4X Panasonic PCMCIA CD-ROM >*US Robotics 28.8 PCMCIA Modem >Windows NT 4.0 SP3 (or Win 95 on request) >External floppy >*Carrying Case >4 pounds >All manuals and doo-dads >10 months left on original warranty >*1-year extended warranty > >It's in excellent condition, has been babied since birth, no dead pixels. I >love the speed and size of it, but my work requires the extra screen >resolution the 600 offers. > >Best offer over $1400 + actual shipping costs > >Thanks, > >Greg L. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 23 15:20:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA12002 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:20:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24566; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:43:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:39:21 -0500 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.92.76]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23671; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id NAA13561 for dist-thinkpad; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:39:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19465; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:56:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic71.fbtc.net [204.2.11.71]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA19280; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:55:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005e01be5ebe$531a9200$470b02cc@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "Andrew Webber" , Subject: Re: Buying a bigger HD Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:51:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: What about getting a CD-R and creating cd's of some of your lesser used data? Then you can keep them in your carrying case and use them when you need them. I have one that plugs into the parallel port and works fine with the laptops and the desktop and I save a lot of space with it. Blank cd's cost about $2, or half that with rebates. It does take a while to make them, though. Barry -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Webber To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 5:22 PM Subject: Buying a bigger HD >I keep running out of room on the 4GB (2+2) drive in my TP600. A lot >of it is data files, I zip them whenever I can, but right now I've got >~600MB free on C: and D: combined. :( > >The TP is my primary machine, both on the road and in the office. > >I've looked at the option of using a regular HD in an external >enclosure, through the parallel port probably. Not a bad option >cost-wise, but the Kensington enclosure I saw yesterday was pretty big >(maybe 6" square?). Probably pretty cheap, and nice for moving drives >between machines here, but I wouldn't want to haul it through airports! > >Another alternative would be to use the $20 IBM brackets. I gather >these allow me to mount a 12.5mm drive in the bay, right? But if I >understand correctly, I'd lose use of my CD-ROM when the HD is in [side >question: what do people do with their CD drives when something else is >in the bay? There's no enclosure]. > >I checked thinkpads.com and wonder about removing the 4GB entirely and >putting in a bigger drive. I gather the 8.1GB for $599 or 6.4GB for >U$379 would fit in the space occupied by my current drive? Would I >need additional mounting hardware? The 6.4GB is $59.22/GB and the >8.1GB is $73.95/GB. Of course those prices will plummet, but is the >extra capacity worth $220? > >What about the Apricorn drives? The prices on thinkpads.com are pretty >high compared to the IBM. > >Migrating the existing data: I could probably do with a Win95 >re-install (8 months since I got the TP!). Given my 2-partition >configuration (as discussed to my enlightenment earlier :), would it be >best to install from the recovery CD, then start installing apps from >CD and downloaded patches? Or does something like EZ-GIG or PowerQuest >help clean up the system as well? > >Finally, what do I do with the 4GB drive? I know I should break this >habit of carrying every file with me, but it's so convenient! No >advance planning. Guess I could save it in case I get a new cheapo >desktop machine for the office. > >Thanks in advance for any and all advice! > >andrew >------ >Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] >SGML Mercenaries >Division of World Wide Webbers Incorporated >1883 Featherston Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 6P6 >Phone 613-523-2237 / Fax 613-523-6893 > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 23 15:28:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA12092 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:28:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02199; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:21:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:19:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01944; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:19:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.its.rpi.edu (root@mail1.its.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01888; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:18:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from liw (resnet-1750.dynamic.rpi.edu [128.113.183.72]) by mail1.its.rpi.edu (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA63676 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:20:29 -0500 From: "Chewie" To: Subject: RE: Once again: TP600 Batteries Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:18:11 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be5ea0$788960c0$48b77180@liw.dynamic.rpi.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: To Alexander and TP List: I also experience the same symptoms on my ThinkPad 600. I noticed that this behavior began after updating to their latest BIOS, version 1.06 (12/23/98). It would discharge from 15% to 5% immediately. Of course when I charge the battery to 15%, it would discharge all of the 15%. So I wonder what happened to 10% of the charge. Well, I called IBM tech support and they sent me a new battery. After receiving the new battery, the problem still occurs. So I brought it down to an authorized IBM repair center. The technician took a look at it and said that he didn't notice the problem. As long as my ThinkPad was getting around 2-3 hours of battery life, the machine was considered "normal". Still having this problem as of today.... *sigh* Wan Chiu Li -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Krumeich [mailto:krumeich@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de] Sent: Monday, February 22, 1999 6:14 PM To: ThinkPad List Subject: Once again: TP600 Batteries Hi, around January 12th I started a small discussion on this list about the naughty behaviour of the battery in my TP600. It would discharge from 30% to 5% in an instant. At that time, several people on this list confirmed this to be typical of the TP600. Alas, I must say that the situation has become worse: Now the jump to 5% comes already at 50% charge left. The curious thing is that when I recharge the battery to approx. 30% and pull the plug then, the machine will give me the whole 30% of power that the xapm gauge says is left---without any further jumps. Again: Confirmation? Explanation? Consolation? :-) TIA, Alexander -- Alexander Krumeich http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ Never trust a HAL 9000 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 23 15:38:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA12212 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:38:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03601; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:36:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:35:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03444; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:35:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (IDENT:root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.247.247.110]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03423; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:35:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ssh (dhcp-84.servicemetrics.com [206.247.247.84] (may be forged)) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA18934; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:29:16 GMT From: "Steve Hultquist" To: "Brian Button" , "Thinkpad Mailing List" Subject: RE: (770X) Looking for good traveling case Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:35:30 -0700 Message-ID: <002a01be5f6c$0d7daf80$54f7f7ce@ssh.servicemetrics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: <36D088F1.97A84605@oma.com> List-Unsubscribe: I would only use a Port case. These are also OEMed to Tumi (the high-end luggage company) and to IBM (in the Thinkpad cases). The suspension system in the Port cases is far superior to anything I've seen anywhere (and I've seen a lot). Highly recommended. If money isn't a big deal, I'd recommend the Tumi (you can look on-line at http://www.tumi.com/ -- look for computer briefcases). Best regards, ssh >-----Original Message----- >From: Brian Button [mailto:bbutton@oma.com] >Sent: Sunday, February 21, 1999 3:30 PM >To: Thinkpad Mailing List >Subject: (770X) Looking for good traveling case > > >I'm about to start traveling twice a month, and I'm looking for a good >case for my 770X. I'd like to carry the TP itself, its various adapters, >a few CDs, some magazines, and maybe my Palm Pilot cradle. This should >be a pretty typical bundle for a traveling techie :) > >Any suggestions? I'm much less concerned about cost than about >durability and convenience. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 23 16:09:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12615 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06251; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:06:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:05:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06070; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:05:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.149.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06054; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20611 invoked by uid 66); 23 Feb 1999 21:06:01 -0000 Received: from seneca by slarti with UUCP; Tue Feb 23 21:06:01 1999 -0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Harald Milz Newsgroups: local.ml.thinkpad Subject: Re: Linux and Thinkpad 600E Date: 23 Feb 1999 20:34:02 GMT Organization: Linux.DE Lines: 8 Message-ID: <7av3bq$m6k$2@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> References: <199902231418.HAA11912@cavecreations.com> Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de NNTP-Posting-Host: seneca.muc.de X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980618 (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.35 (i586)) List-Unsubscribe: Albert C. Lee wrote: > or am I getting the keystrokes wrong (since the Thinkpad has no > keypad). You can activate it using the Numlock key. -- If you can't learn to do it well, learn to enjoy doing it badly. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 23 16:26:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA12856 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:26:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08268; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:21:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:20:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08006; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:20:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from topaz.engin.umich.edu (root@topaz.engin.umich.edu [141.212.78.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07986; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:20:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bakerkj@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by topaz.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA27102 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:20:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:20:20 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth James Baker To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thoughts on a 310ED In-Reply-To: <7av3bq$m6k$2@seneca.ak.munich.ibm.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I wrote the list a few days ago about looking for a Thinkpad to run linux on. Could people share their thoughts and experiences with the 310ED? Thanks, Ken From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 23 18:05:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA14226 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:05:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15342; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:04:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:02:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15199; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:02:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15185; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:02:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from dante37.u.washington.edu (williams@dante37.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.197]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA27158 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:02:24 -0800 Received: from localhost (williams@localhost) by dante37.u.washington.edu (8.9.2+UW99.01/8.9.2+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA117512 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:02:24 -0800 Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:02:21 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Williams" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Cardbus and 770 / Intel Moble Adapter Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I just received a message from IBM which stated that two Cardbus cards can't be used at the same time. Is this true? I want to use a Scsi card and a Lan + Modem card. I have a 770ED with Win 95 OSR2. Also, does any one have any experience with the Intel PRO/100 Mobile Adapter LAN+Modem56? It's Card Bus II (what does this mean?) Thanks, John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 23 20:03:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA15565 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:03:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23338; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:01:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:58:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23009; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:58:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from roadrunner.sig.net (roadrunner.sig.net [192.195.85.203]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22995; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:58:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from cueve (dynamic9.fbtc.net [204.2.11.9]) by roadrunner.sig.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA01359; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:58:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <008c01be5f90$37c2df80$b9a6c898@cueve> From: "Barry Marks" To: "David Talkington" , "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: Re: TP600: Does your Win98 hibernate? Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:54:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: -----Original Message----- From: David Talkington To: Thinkpad LISTSERV Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 1:52 PM Subject: RE: TP600: Does your Win98 hibernate? >I'm wary of BIOS updates, incidentally, ever since I read of someone who >trashed a board because IBM had posted an incorrect BIOS version. (IBM >replaced the board.) I prefer to wait a few weeks after a new BIOS update >is posted, and let someone else field-test it! I had a Compaq LTE Elite and I bought one just like it for my niece who was going to college. These are older 486 units that I bought used. I tried to set up the Compaq setup partition but it failed each time. I called Compaq and they said I had to do a bios update. I didn't trust that but I let him talk me into it. It failed. The computer was dead. At that point he mentioned the other one I had told him about and asked me if I'd be willing to try it on that one since he wanted to know if it was a bug in their update. I did. It failed. That computer was also dead. Compaq was real good about replacing both system boards free and even did a few other free small repairs while they were at it. So it all turned out ok. But I don't do bios upgrades unless it's the only way to keep the computer useful, which is rare. Barry From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Feb 23 23:25:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA18130 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03169; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:24:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:22:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03001; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:22:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from ares.actionwebs.net (ares.actionwebs.net [208.244.215.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02981; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:22:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mlemon (customer-171.actionwebs.net [208.244.215.171]) by ares.actionwebs.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA02076; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:24:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:36:29 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE5F85.5601CC00.mlemon@hickseq.com> From: Mark Lemon Reply-To: "mlemon@hickseq.com" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "'Kevin Toner'" Subject: RE: Any tips on cleaning out Win98 crud? Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:12:17 -0600 Organization: Hicks Equipment, Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I just reformatted by installing a "new PC" copy of Win98 on my TP600, and I can notice a definite difference. I'd forgotten how many little Win95 problems I'd just learned to accept (random blue screens returning from hibernation, for example). In addition, everything seems "snappier". However, I don't believe Win98 was the difference - I'd bet that my 95 recovery CD and the latest drivers would have accomplished the same thing. For what it's worth, my Mac buddies turned me on to regular reformatting - it brings new life to an old 7300 power pc I use for cross-platform testing. Most of them do it every time Apple releases an OS upgrade. Is there any good, safe way to clean this crud off of my computer and restore it to the sort of performance I enjoyed when it came out of the box? I regularly use scandisk, defrag and uninstall to do the best I can, but I know there's lots of extra junk out there. Is the best solution to reformat the hard drives and apply the IBM restore CD? Thanks in advance for any advice. Kevin Toner From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 24 01:49:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA19342 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 01:49:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09047; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 01:47:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 01:46:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08901; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 01:46:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08887; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 01:46:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from Tigger (ppp7.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.7]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id AAA02778 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 00:46:19 -0600 (CST) From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: Any tips on cleaning out Win98 crud? Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 00:45:03 -0600 Message-ID: <000401be5fc1$34cc8ca0$07d194ce@Tigger.prairienet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <01BE5F85.5601CC00.mlemon@hickseq.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: The best solution (you don't wanna hear it) is not to use "recovery" CDs. They return you to the same crud-laden state in which your operating system was shipped. I consider it worth the $89 to buy a retail copy of Windows 98, and install it fresh. I don't give two squirts about any apps that I can't replace without the recovery CD -- the only package of any real value that was included with my 1720 was Lotus Suite, and that came (thank you) on a separate, installable CD. It's theoretically possible, I suppose, to weed out the hundreds of useless registry keys and system files that unneeded programs will leave behind, but it's never going to work as well as a fresh install with only YOUR carefully configured apps. One more thing -- install all the patches for Win98 and IE4 -- and do them individually, rebooting after each one. Trust me, it matters! And if you're really smart, and hate wasted time, after you create a clean, perfect base OS installation, including whatever drivers are required to eliminate complaints in device manager, zip a copy of it. I have a separate partition that I use for another OS (which one depends on my mood), and use it to zip up and backup the other one. Much easier than fighting with "files in use by Windows". Then to restore it, you just boot to the other OS, unzip your clean copy, reboot, and you're on your way in a fraction of the time. Have fun -d > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Lemon [mailto:mlemon@hickseq.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 11:12 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; 'Kevin Toner' > Subject: RE: Any tips on cleaning out Win98 crud? > > > I just reformatted by installing a "new PC" copy of Win98 on my > TP600, and > I can notice a definite difference. I'd forgotten how many little Win95 > problems I'd just learned to accept (random blue screens returning from > hibernation, for example). In addition, everything seems "snappier". > > However, I don't believe Win98 was the difference - I'd bet that my 95 > recovery CD and the latest drivers would have accomplished the same thing. > > For what it's worth, my Mac buddies turned me on to regular > reformatting - > it brings new life to an old 7300 power pc I use for cross-platform > testing. Most of them do it every time Apple releases an OS upgrade. > > Is there any good, safe way to clean this crud off of my computer and > restore it to the sort of performance I enjoyed when it came out of the > box? I regularly use scandisk, defrag and uninstall to do the > best I can, > but I know there's lots of extra junk out there. Is the best solution to > reformat the hard drives and apply the IBM restore CD? Thanks in advance > for any advice. > Kevin Toner > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 24 11:31:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA23882 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:31:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12143; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:29:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:26:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11888; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:26:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11866; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:26:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from FRUNOBULAX (slip129-37-92-224.mi.us.ibm.net [129.37.92.224]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA72848; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:25:13 GMT X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.67 under Emacs 19.34.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14035.6138.820000.217345@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:04:58 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) To: "Paul Khoury" Cc: "ThinkPad List" , "Rich Nedinsky" Subject: Re: archives In-Reply-To: <199902180918.EAA18550@smtp0.mindspring.com> References: <199902180918.EAA18550@smtp0.mindspring.com> From: "Henry M. Benson" List-Unsubscribe: Paul Khoury writes: > Then again, does anyone here know about setting up a simple database on Solaris > (so someone could enter in a word or string, and it lists all the files (and their date) which > matches the query? (All the emails are I think over 40MB at least). Yes, the program is called "glimpse". It builds a searchable database from your files. You can control the size/speed tradeoff also. I've used it for just this purpose, and it worked really well. I'm pretty sure it's freeware and should be readily available, though it's been a while since I used it. I may still have my setup files lying around somewhere - let me know if I can help. Henry -- Henry M. Benson hmbtech@pobox.com HMB Technologies, Inc. Belmont, MA Voice: 617-484-1845 Fax: 617-249-0419 http://www.pobox.com/~hmbtech Consulting services in ATE design-to-test, software infrastructure and development From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 24 13:31:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA25791 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:31:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21266; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:28:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:26:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21026; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd125.hotmail.com [207.82.252.189]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20892; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:25:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29169 invoked by uid 0); 24 Feb 1999 18:24:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990224182442.29168.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.194.74 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:24:41 PST X-Originating-IP: [195.92.194.74] From: "Mark Houlihan" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: SUBSCRIBE Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:24:41 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 24 15:42:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA27672 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:42:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02392; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:38:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:35:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02000; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:35:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from arl-img-10.compuserve.com (arl-img-10.compuserve.com [149.174.217.140]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01977; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:35:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by arl-img-10.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.18) id PAA03069; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:35:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:34:07 -0500 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Rewire of power plug Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: "Paul Khoury" Cc: thinkpad Message-ID: <199902241535_MC2-6BB8-F42C@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: >I am wary of my AC plug - the part which coonects to the back of the Tpa= d - >as it is showing signs of fatigue where the lead exits the large mouldin= g. >It looks like this moulding is sealed?? How to rewire the connector if i= t >fails?? >>Which ThinkPad is this for? 755CX any ideas?? Thanks From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 24 15:44:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA27703 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:44:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02398; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:38:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:35:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02019; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:35:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from hil-img-7.compuserve.com (hil-img-7.compuserve.com [149.174.177.137]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01976; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:35:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hil-img-7.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.18) id PAA26007 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:35:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:34:03 -0500 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: W95 reinstall LOGIC ??? Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: thinkpad Message-ID: <199902241535_MC2-6BB8-F425@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: When reinstalling W95 you can get asked the following (ish): "The file currently being installed is older than the one currently installed. Do you wish to keep this file?" Whicht one is it referring too? Keep the older or the new one about to be= installed?? = Who writes these damned error message texts??!! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 24 15:53:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA27832 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:53:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03955; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:51:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:51:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03781; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:51:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0d.netaddress.usa.net (www0d.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03765; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:50:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16365 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Feb 1999 20:23:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990224202338.16364.qmail@www0d.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.33 by www0d via web-mailer(R2.6) on Wed Feb 24 20:23:37 GMT 1999 Date: 24 Feb 99 14:23:37 CST From: Rob Bell To: thinkpad Subject: Re: [W95 reinstall LOGIC ???] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: > When reinstalling W95 you can get asked the following (ish): > = > "The file currently being installed is older than the one currently > installed. > Do you wish to keep this file?" > = > Which one is it referring too? Keep the older or the new one about to b= e > installed?? = > = > Who writes these damned error message texts??!! It wants to know if you wish to keep your existing newer file. If you an= swer 'Yes', it will preserve the existing file and NOT copy the older one over= the top of it. Q: "Who writes the messages?" = A: People who never have to use them... HTH, Rob ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at htt= p://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 24 16:03:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA28001 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:03:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04744; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:00:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:00:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04628; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:00:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (mosquito.ny.ans.net [147.225.51.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04612; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:59:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bkomar@localhost) by mosquito.ny.ans.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA14974 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:59:42 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mosquito.ny.ans.net: bkomar owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:59:42 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Komar X-Sender: bkomar@mosquito.ny.ans.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <19990224202338.16364.qmail@www0d.netaddress.usa.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Feb 24 17:40:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA29303 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:40:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13021; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:37:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12816; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:37:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12782; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:37:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-242.usc.edu [128.125.224.242]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id OAA07142; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:36:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990224143124.00b3d100@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:37:03 -0800 To: "Henry M. Benson" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Pagis Pro (Was: Archives) In-Reply-To: <14035.6138.820000.217345@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <199902180918.EAA18550@smtp0.mindspring.com> <199902180918.EAA18550@smtp0.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 04:04 PM 2/23/99 -0500, you wrote: > > Then again, does anyone here know about setting up a simple database on >Solaris > > (so someone could enter in a word or string, and it lists all the files >(and their date) which > > matches the query? (All the emails are I think over 40MB at least). > >Yes, the program is called "glimpse". It builds a searchable database from >your files. You can control the size/speed tradeoff also. I've used it for >just this purpose, and it worked really well. I'm pretty sure it's freeware >and should be readily available, though it's been a while since I used it. For what its worth, I have a fabulous program that I picked up in early Jan. called "Pagis Pro" by Scansoft, a Xerox company. It allows you to scan in various documents & etc. and index all of them, but can also index most file formats you already have, which allows for some surprisingly powerful search capabilities. It even color-codes and categorizes the results to indicate the liklihood of the match you are seeking, and also does "natural language" searching. I'm pleased as punch with the product--I think its fabulous and can't get enough. I was merely expecting a method to file (electronically) certain documents, but I got something more powerful than I expected. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 25 02:18:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA07085 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:18:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07089; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:17:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:13:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06914; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:13:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06901; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger (ppp22.cu.soltec.net [206.148.209.22]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id BAA16585 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 01:13:48 -0600 (CST) From: "David Talkington" To: "Thinkpad LISTSERV" Subject: RE: [W95 reinstall LOGIC ???] Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 01:12:28 -0600 Message-ID: <000301be608e$339e7dc0$0200a8c0@tigger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <19990224202338.16364.qmail@www0d.netaddress.usa.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: There is no flaw in the physical logic here. You don't currently "have" the file which the program proposes to install, therefore you cannot "keep" it. You can only choose to "keep" the one you have. However, there IS an error in the grammatic logic. The subject of the first sentence is "The file currently being installed", with "the one currently being installed" being part of a subordinate clause. The term "this file" in the subsequent sentence must, therefore, refer to the file being installed, which is clearly NOT the one you want to keep. The meaning is therefore not what the author intended. Clear as mud? -David > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Bell [mailto:rbell1@netscape.net] > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 2:24 PM > To: thinkpad > Subject: Re: [W95 reinstall LOGIC ???] > > > > When reinstalling W95 you can get asked the following (ish): > > > > "The file currently being installed is older than the one currently > > installed. > > Do you wish to keep this file?" > > > > Which one is it referring too? Keep the older or the new one about to be > > installed?? > > > > Who writes these damned error message texts??!! > > It wants to know if you wish to keep your existing newer file. > If you answer > 'Yes', it will preserve the existing file and NOT copy the older > one over the > top of it. > > Q: "Who writes the messages?" > A: People who never have to use them... > > HTH, > Rob > > ____________________________________________________________________ > More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account > today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 25 02:21:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA07111 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:21:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07382; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:20:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:18:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07244; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:18:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07231; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:18:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl ([12.65.16.19]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990225071816.WQP12590@dts-jl> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 07:18:16 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990225021714.00b33a30@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:17:14 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: References: <19990224202338.16364.qmail@www0d.netaddress.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 03:59 PM 2/24/99 -0500, Bruce Komar wrote: >unsubscribe > I give up - someone else take a turn at this. Jane From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 25 08:16:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA09778 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:16:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25648; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:15:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:14:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25519; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:14:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from atena.eurocontrol.fr (atena.uneec.eurocontrol.fr [147.196.69.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25497; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:14:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from euro.eurocontrol.fr (euro.eurocontrol.fr [147.196.1.15]) by atena.eurocontrol.fr (8.9.1/8.9.1/atena-1.1/nospam) with ESMTP id OAA01374 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 14:14:06 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from harald.weis@eurocontrol.fr) Received: from SMTP (nav.eurocontrol.fr) by eurocontrol.fr with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA275128444; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 14:14:04 +0100 Received: from altair.eurocontrol.fr ([147.196.5.16]) by 147.196.5.15 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 13:13:48 0000 (GMT) Received: from eurocontrol.fr (wei.eurocontrol.fr [147.196.30.187]) by altair.eurocontrol.fr (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA1F89; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 14:14:01 +0100 Message-Id: <36D54C92.5235BD1B@eurocontrol.fr> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 14:13:54 +0100 From: "Harald WEIS" Organization: EUROCONTROL Experimental Centre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,fr,de Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 25 09:39:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA10550 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:39:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29804; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:38:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:37:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29665; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:37:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29626; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:37:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:36:28 -0500 Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by dub-img-ims-2.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.7) with SMTP id JAA24304 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:35:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902251435.JAA24304@dub-img-ims-2.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:34:32 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: unsubscribe List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:17:14 -0500, Jane Loyless wrote: >>unsubscribe >> > >I give up - someone else take a turn at this. > >Jane Already taken care of privately. andrew ------ Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] SGML Mercenaries Division of World Wide Webbers Incorporated 1883 Featherston Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 6P6 Phone 613-523-2237 / Fax 613-523-6893 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 25 09:50:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA10627 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:50:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00686; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:49:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:48:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00577; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:48:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1.tm.net.my (mta1.tm.net.my [202.188.95.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00557; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:48:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from tm.net.my ([202.188.22.190]) by mta1.tm.net.my (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with ESMTP id <19990226065110.RFZN507@tm.net.my> for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:51:10 -0800 Message-ID: <36D56196.9F272360@tm.net.my> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:43:34 +0800 From: Zilim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad Subject: Re: W95 reinstall LOGIC ??? References: <199902241535_MC2-6BB8-F425@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: This usually happens when the installation detects a file which newer than what it is about to be installed e.g. Your system -> xx.sys file version 1.30 W95 CD -> xx.sys file version 1.10 I would usually say no to keeping the old file because I want to do a clean installation. This would be better because those old file may cause conflicts in your system later. Then again, if you just want to reinstall W95 but want to keep those old sys or dll files, then say 'yes'. I understand your frustration. I went through it many times before. Even I say yes to keeping the file, I still reinstall whatever software I have previously installed into my system. This is just to make sure W95 behaves properly. I have since migrated to W98. It's more stable. If you reinstall W98, you won't get those stupid question. Regards, Peter p/s Do apologize for the grammer, it may be as confusing as W95 ;) Mark Gardiner wrote: > When reinstalling W95 you can get asked the following (ish): > > "The file currently being installed is older than the one currently > installed. > Do you wish to keep this file?" > > Whicht one is it referring too? Keep the older or the new one about to be > installed?? > > Who writes these damned error message texts??!! ----------------------------------------------------------- The colder the X-ray table, the more of your body is required on it. ----------------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 25 15:32:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA15465 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 15:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24465; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 15:28:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 15:26:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24233; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 15:26:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from izzy6.izzy.net (root@izzy6.izzy.net [206.84.176.178]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24218; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 15:26:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from noel.home.null (annex-0-5-port-22.dialup.coast.net [207.158.189.86]) by izzy6.izzy.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA02660 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 15:26:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 15:26:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Kenneth J. Baker" X-Sender: bakerkj@noel.home.null To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ThinkPad 760E 9546 U9B Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I am looking also looking at a Thinkpad 760E. Does anyone out there have experience with linux on one of these? Does X work? Does sound work? APM? Thanks, Ken From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 25 16:09:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA16078 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:09:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27842; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:03:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:02:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27640; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:02:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (sls.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27610; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:01:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (gummi [18.27.0.33]) by sls.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09905; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:01:45 -0500 (EST) Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-ID: <36D5BA38.C17019B1@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:01:44 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.2-ac3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Kenneth J. Baker" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 760E 9546 U9B References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I had Linux running on a 760E about two years ago (Red Hat 4.2 I believe). Sound can work if you first boot DOS, fire up SoundBlaster compatibility on the Mwave, and then warm boot Linux with LOADLIN. It was a big pain. X worked, but I might have had to use a utility program to move the "origin" of the display to the edge. APM worked fine (suspend/hibernate/resume), but you have to build your own kernel with APM enabled. For me, apmd caused problems (wouldn't suspend) so I didn't use it. I am very pleased that the 600 and 770 have real sound chips so LOADLIN isn't necessary. --Lee Hetherington PS: The 760E I had (150MHz I believe) ran really hot and its battery didn't last long. This was by far the most power hungry and hottest ThinkPad I've had, including 760C, 760E, 770 233MHz Pentium, and now 600 300MHz Pentium II. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 25 20:07:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA19824 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:07:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18267; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:06:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:05:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18162; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:05:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (f222.hotmail.com [207.82.251.113]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18147; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:05:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22054 invoked by uid 0); 26 Feb 1999 01:04:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990226010438.22053.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 151.198.118.30 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:04:38 PST X-Originating-IP: [151.198.118.30] From: "Angie Lee" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Power Brick 770 Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:04:38 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Any ideas if a HP power adapter will work in a thinkpad 770? the specs on the HP adapter is: 100 to 240 Vac (50 to 60 Hz) input 12 Vdc, 3.3 A output Looking on the bottom of the TP adapter it has: 100-240 1.2A-0.5A input 16V 3.36A output Will the lower Vdc on the HP hurt the TP or will it not be sufficient? Sure would beat having to pay $100 for a second adapter if it would work... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 25 20:17:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA19955 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:17:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19016; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:16:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:15:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18836; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:15:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18821; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:15:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from leland.stanford.edu (Banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.64.168.119]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8/L) with ESMTP id RAA24623; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:15:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36D5F5F4.14CF2A19@leland.stanford.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:16:36 -0800 From: Benjamin Koh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Angie Lee CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Power Brick 770 References: <19990226010438.22053.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: #1 The adapter prong will probably not fit. #2 Insufficient voltage means it probably won't operate at all even if it physically fits. If it does work at the lower voltage, current draw will be higher to compensate, in order to generate the same amount of power. The higher current draw will almost certainly exceed the HP's specifications and cook it (the adapter). Your TP might get hurt from overheating if too much current is drawn. #1 will probably prevent #2 from happening, so save up the $100, or scavenge one from an older thinkpad, or try ebay. Benjamin Angie Lee wrote: > > Any ideas if a HP power adapter will work in a thinkpad 770? the specs > on the HP adapter is: > 100 to 240 Vac (50 to 60 Hz) input > 12 Vdc, 3.3 A output > > Looking on the bottom of the TP adapter it has: > > 100-240 1.2A-0.5A input > 16V 3.36A output > > Will the lower Vdc on the HP hurt the TP or will it not be sufficient? > Sure would beat having to pay $100 for a second adapter if it would > work... > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 25 20:43:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA20385 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:43:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20235; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:42:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:41:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20145; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:41:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (cave@cavecreations.com [192.41.27.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20131; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:41:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id SAA06473; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 18:41:31 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 18:41:31 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199902260141.SAA06473@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 'E' key getting stubborn List-Unsubscribe: Boy... as much as I love my Thinkpad 600E, I am now coming to my second problem in 3 months. The 'E' key has started to lose sensitivity. Like it's really really stiff. Effort on the other keys is light... and the E key fights back. So what do I do ... it's under warranty but I already sent my Thinkpad to EZ-Serve once and I would rather drive 100 miles to a service center to get a keyboard swapped, than send this thing out in a mail truck again. Can I pry off the key, or are they special? -Al -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998,1999 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 25 20:52:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA20503 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22293; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:50:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:50:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22176; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:50:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22159; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:50:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902260150.UAA22159@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Fri, 24 Feb 1989 18:48:08 -0800 (PST) From: "Victor Kress" To: "Albert C. Lee" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:50:14 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 'E' key getting stubborn List-Unsubscribe: Try Tuner Control Cleaner and Lubricant from Radio Shack. It contains plastic-safe solvents and mineral oil. It has a nozzle so you can spray it under the keys. I used it on my 750 keyboard (on rec from someone on this list) and it works great. It certainly can't hurt. On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 18:41:31 -0700 (MST), Albert C. Lee wrote: >Boy... as much as I love my Thinkpad 600E, I am now coming to my >second problem in 3 months. > >The 'E' key has started to lose sensitivity. Like it's really really >stiff. Effort on the other keys is light... and the E key fights >back. > >So what do I do ... it's under warranty but I already sent my Thinkpad >to EZ-Serve once and I would rather drive 100 miles to a service >center to get a keyboard swapped, than send this thing out in a mail >truck again. > >Can I pry off the key, or are they special? > >-Al > > >-- >Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com >(c) 1998,1999 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. > ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 25 20:59:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA20607 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:59:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22932; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:58:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:58:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22810; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:58:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (cave@cavecreations.com [192.41.27.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22761; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id SAA12742; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 18:57:51 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 18:57:51 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199902260157.SAA12742@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Answered my own question (was E key stubborn) List-Unsubscribe: Took a small computer screwdriver, and gently pried off the E key (be very careful here... there are tiny clips on the left and right of the key. I pried each corner gently until I felt the clip disengage. Turns out there's 2 plastic hinges that interlock, and a covered spring in the middle. The interlocking plastic pieces had been knocked out of alignment. I put them back in place, and then proceeded to gently snap 1 side of the clips back into the key. then gently, I pressed down on the key and the other 2 clips engaged. E key back to normal. Whew! -al -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998,1999 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 25 21:09:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA20737 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:09:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23737; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:09:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:08:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23534; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:08:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from pike.sover.net (pike.sover.net [209.198.87.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23491; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:07:50 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from MYHOSTNAME (arc1a145.bf.sover.net [209.198.81.147]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA28734; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:07:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902260207.VAA28734@pike.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on pike.sover.net) MYHOSTNAME from arc1a145.bf.sover.net [209.198.81.147] 209.198.81.147 Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:07:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:56:41 -0500 To: "Albert C. Lee" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199902260141.SAA06473@cavecreations.com> Subject: Re: 'E' key getting stubborn X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 b60 List-Unsubscribe: >The 'E' key has started to lose sensitivity. Like it's really really >stiff. Effort on the other keys is light... and the E key fights back. I had a similar problem with a 560 a few weeks ago. I took the screws out the case and turned it over to see if the case would come apart then, and it shifted the keyboard just enough to free the key. Put the screws back in and forgot about it. _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 25 21:10:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA20742 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:10:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23740; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:09:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:07:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23504; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:07:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from pike.sover.net (pike.sover.net [209.198.87.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23482; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:07:45 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from MYHOSTNAME (arc1a145.bf.sover.net [209.198.81.147]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA28727 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:07:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902260207.VAA28727@pike.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on pike.sover.net) MYHOSTNAME from arc1a145.bf.sover.net [209.198.81.147] 209.198.81.147 Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:07:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:00:34 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Replacement for 560? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 b60 List-Unsubscribe: The street price of the 560 has dropped about $1000 or so in the past couple of months. In the past this has been an indication that a model is about to be replaced , and the 560 is aging -- but it could also just be a pricing change to compete with other products. Thoughts anyone? _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Feb 25 23:22:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA22455 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:22:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28908; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:20:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:19:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28786; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:19:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.41]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28773; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:19:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from 211.chicago-06-07rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.150.211]) by mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990226041853.JHSC23058@211.chicago-06-07rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 04:18:53 +0000 From: epbrown01@worldnet.att.net (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Replacement for 560? Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 04:18:45 GMT Message-ID: <36d61d6f.26635032@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <199902260207.VAA28727@pike.sover.net> In-Reply-To: <199902260207.VAA28727@pike.sover.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:00:34 -0500, wrote: >The street price of the 560 has dropped about $1000 or so in the past >couple of months. In the past this has been an indication that a model is >about to be replaced , and the 560 is aging -- but it could also just be a >pricing change to compete with other products. Which 560? The 560Z seems as expensive as ever, from the catalogs lying about the flat. I think the 560 line is on it's last legs because of two things: 1) Crossover from the IBM 600 crowd. The 600 is similarly priced to the 560, but offers much more in features and isn't much heavier. Everything you might miss about the 560, for just a pound more weight! 2) The emergence of the ultralight notebooks like the Toshiba 3010, Sony 505, and Sharp Actius. The offer almost everything of the 560, for more than a pound *less* weight. Since I don't yet need the power and features of the 600, when it came time to replace my 560 I went with the Sony 505. All I'm really missing out on is the Pentium II, and I'd have been much happier with the 12.1" display going to XGA resolution and a built-in modem and a 300Mhz MMX so I'd still get that whopping battery life. Hopefully, the next incarnation of IBM's subnotebook line will woo me back into the fold :-) epbrown Portable Computing FAQ - http://home.att.net/~epbrown01 Sony VAIO 505 info - http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/sony505.html Join the 505 Mailing List - http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/sony505 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 00:06:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA23071 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:06:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01309; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:05:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:04:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01188; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:04:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01175; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:04:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-30.gate.net [199.227.173.30]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA46746; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:04:02 -0500 Message-ID: <36D62B14.AAEBB604@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:03:17 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Albert C. Lee" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 'E' key getting stubborn References: <199902260141.SAA06473@cavecreations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Albert... with every thinkpad keyboard i have had experience with the keytops will 'pop' off and the plastic mechanism can be dusted.. normally this can be done without damaging anything.. possible there is some bit of debris stuck under there.. Albert C. Lee wrote: > Boy... as much as I love my Thinkpad 600E, I am now coming to my > second problem in 3 months. > > The 'E' key has started to lose sensitivity. Like it's really really > stiff. Effort on the other keys is light... and the E key fights > back. > > So what do I do ... it's under warranty but I already sent my Thinkpad > to EZ-Serve once and I would rather drive 100 miles to a service > center to get a keyboard swapped, than send this thing out in a mail > truck again. > > Can I pry off the key, or are they special? > > -Al > > -- > Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com > (c) 1998,1999 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 00:08:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA23103 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:08:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01538; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:07:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:06:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01419; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:06:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01402; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:06:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-30.gate.net [199.227.173.30]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA397234; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:06:22 -0500 Message-ID: <36D62B9F.23A3A719@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:05:35 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Angie Lee CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Power Brick 770 References: <19990226010438.22053.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Angie.. probably not a great idea, and the ac adapters are not $100.. you can use a 560 type and they are about $60 Angie Lee wrote: > Any ideas if a HP power adapter will work in a thinkpad 770? the specs > on the HP adapter is: > 100 to 240 Vac (50 to 60 Hz) input > 12 Vdc, 3.3 A output > > Looking on the bottom of the TP adapter it has: > > 100-240 1.2A-0.5A input > 16V 3.36A output > > Will the lower Vdc on the HP hurt the TP or will it not be sufficient? > Sure would beat having to pay $100 for a second adapter if it would > work... > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 00:16:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA23255 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:16:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02279; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:15:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:15:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02117; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:15:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02096; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:14:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-30.gate.net [199.227.173.30]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA100692; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:14:44 -0500 Message-ID: <36D62D97.29E09D85@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:13:59 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Geary CC: Andrew Webber , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Buying a bigger HD References: <005801be5e90$3e905320$0401a8c0@paddy.geary.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Michael.. been down with the flu, then site went down at the same time.. what a mess.. 1. the 8.1gig for $599 (or whatever it is today) is a new 12.5mm drive.. the 8.1gig 17mm drive is now much less.. 2. not sure if it'll be supported properly in the 600.. 3. i sometimes give the 600 drive bracket away with a drive.. just sticking my 2 cents in.. :-) Michael Geary wrote: > The 8Gb drive is 17mm; it won't fit in your 600. IBM's 10Gb 12.5mm model is > coming out sometime very soon--it's been listed on www.storage.ibm.com for a > while now. > > Pull out your current drive when you get a chance and take a look at it. > You'll see a metal mounting tray with a piece of blue tape and four screws > holding it to the actual drive itself. You can use that tray with any new > drive, or buy another tray from thinkpads.com for $20. > > I strongly recommend you get the extra tray and also the UltraslimBay 2nd > HDD Adapter. Then you can put both drives in at once when you want, or take > out the second one when you want to put something else in the bay. I did > this when I got a 6.4Gb drive--now I keep the 4Gb in the second bay. All > installed software is on the main 6.4Gb drive, so the system will still run > the same if I pull out the 4Gb--I use it for big downloads, backup files, > things like that. > > When you have the ability to put two drives in the machine, it becomes very > easy to transfer your system from one to the other. If you really *want* to > reinstall Windows and all your apps, be my guest, but you certainly don't > need to go to all that work. Just buy Drive Copy for $29 and let it transfer > everything for you. No, it won't clean up old gunk in your registry, but > there are other tools for that. > > My point here is if you want to nuke your Windows installation for some > reason and start over, that's a separate question from upgrading to a new > drive, and I don't think it's wise to let one decision determine the other. > Are you having problems with your Windows apps? That's probably a better > reason (or lack of reason) to think about cleaning up the system. > > I believe the Apricorn drives are higher because they include an EZ-Gig kit, > which plugs into the PCMCIA socket and copies the drive for you. EZ-Gig is a > real nice setup if you have a machine that can't take a second drive. But > less than $100 will buy you the drive mounting tray, 2nd HDD Adapter, and > Drive Copy or a similar program, letting you transfer everything *and* have > the ability to run both drives when you want. A much better deal. > > Prices on the 6.4Gb drive have dropped considerably: > > http://shopper.com/prdct/734/472.html > > I would Bill Morrow at thinkpads.com a call regardless and see what his > current prices are, since he has the drive mounting tray that you won't find > other places, and his service will be better than the places that just move > boxes. I think Bill sells the 2nd HDD Adapter too, but in case he doesn't, > you can check: > > http://shopper.com/prdct/973/472.html > > Regarding your "habit" of carrying every file with you because it's so > convenient, that's one habit you ought to keep. Is your computer's purpose > to serve your needs, or is your purpose to serve your computer's needs? > > -Mike > > > I keep running out of room on the 4GB (2+2) drive in my TP600. A lot > > of it is data files, I zip them whenever I can, but right now I've got > > ~600MB free on C: and D: combined. :( > > > > The TP is my primary machine, both on the road and in the office. > > > > I've looked at the option of using a regular HD in an external > > enclosure, through the parallel port probably. Not a bad option > > cost-wise, but the Kensington enclosure I saw yesterday was pretty big > > (maybe 6" square?). Probably pretty cheap, and nice for moving drives > > between machines here, but I wouldn't want to haul it through airports! > > > > Another alternative would be to use the $20 IBM brackets. I gather > > these allow me to mount a 12.5mm drive in the bay, right? But if I > > understand correctly, I'd lose use of my CD-ROM when the HD is in [side > > question: what do people do with their CD drives when something else is > > in the bay? There's no enclosure]. > > > > I checked thinkpads.com and wonder about removing the 4GB entirely and > > putting in a bigger drive. I gather the 8.1GB for $599 or 6.4GB for > > U$379 would fit in the space occupied by my current drive? Would I > > need additional mounting hardware? The 6.4GB is $59.22/GB and the > > 8.1GB is $73.95/GB. Of course those prices will plummet, but is the > > extra capacity worth $220? > > > > What about the Apricorn drives? The prices on thinkpads.com are pretty > > high compared to the IBM. > > > > Migrating the existing data: I could probably do with a Win95 > > re-install (8 months since I got the TP!). Given my 2-partition > > configuration (as discussed to my enlightenment earlier :), would it be > > best to install from the recovery CD, then start installing apps from > > CD and downloaded patches? Or does something like EZ-GIG or PowerQuest > > help clean up the system as well? > > > > Finally, what do I do with the 4GB drive? I know I should break this > > habit of carrying every file with me, but it's so convenient! No > > advance planning. Guess I could save it in case I get a new cheapo > > desktop machine for the office. > > > > Thanks in advance for any and all advice! > > > > andrew > > ------ > > Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] > > SGML Mercenaries > > Division of World Wide Webbers Incorporated > > 1883 Featherston Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 6P6 > > Phone 613-523-2237 / Fax 613-523-6893 > > > > > > > > > > -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 07:47:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA27263 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 07:47:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23752; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 07:47:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 07:45:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23600; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 07:45:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23587; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 07:45:02 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from JES770@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id MBGAa04336; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 07:43:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8f773446.36d696f5@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 07:43:33 EST To: letoured@sover.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Replacement for 560? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 List-Unsubscribe: Message dated 2/25/99 9:15:54 PM EST, letoured@sover.net writes: > The street price of the 560 has dropped about $1000 or so in the past > couple of months. In the past this has been an indication that a model is > about to be replaced , and the 560 is aging -- but it could also just be a > pricing change to compete with other products. > > Thoughts anyone? This is off-topic; however, if you hadn't noticed, Egghead SurplusDirect is offering the Extended Systems IBM Port Replicator for the 560 and 560E for $29 + shipping at: http://www.egghead.com/store/ent/eggs_lev.browse?sect_id=SUR_4_272&sesid=^bpi! S7231957^cen!Y^ies!DF1^ces!DF1^ Egghead SurplusDirect > Notebooks & Handhelds > Notebook Hardware Add-ons Order one Sunday -- arrived Tuesday. Neat, well built and gives the slopped effect of having back legs. Regards ... John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 09:29:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA28115 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:29:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28674; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:27:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:26:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28545; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.eclipse.net (root@mail.eclipse.net [207.207.192.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28518; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:26:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from cnj1-07-73.eclipse.net (cnj1-07-73.eclipse.net [207.207.244.73]) by mail.eclipse.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA15542 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:26:07 -0500 (EST) From: mdash@plexsys.com (Michael D. Scheer) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP600 display flicker, EasyServ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:26:04 GMT Message-ID: <36d8adc3.3000965@mail.eclipse.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: My 7 month old 600 has started to show intermittent display flicker. Dying back-light, I guess, and time to call EasyServ, I suppose. I am reluctant to send the machine in with the hard disk. Will they service it if I remove the disk? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 09:35:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA28174 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:35:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29463; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:34:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:33:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29255; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:33:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (cave@cavecreations.com [192.41.27.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29225; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:33:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id HAA23199; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 07:33:20 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 07:33:20 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199902261433.HAA23199@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. Lee" To: mdash@plexsys.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600 display flicker, EasyServ List-Unsubscribe: I was pretty worried about sending my unit in when my Thinkpad 600E started developing pixel problems (clusters of pixels going dead). I had the unit filled with important data, and didn't want to send much. On the suggestion of the group, I yanked everything. They didn't mind at all. Basically... pull the HD, battery, trackpoint cap, all PCMCIA cards and ship it in the EZServe mailer they ship you. The form you get with the mailer lets you specify what you're shipping and what you're not. -Al > My 7 month old 600 has started to show intermittent display flicker. > Dying back-light, I guess, and time to call EasyServ, I suppose. > I am reluctant to send the machine in with the hard disk. Will they > service it if I remove the disk? > -- Sent by Pop3Now, http://www.pop3now.com (c) 1998,1999 Cave Creations Corp. All rights reserved. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 10:12:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA28641 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03338; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:10:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:10:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03247; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:10:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (IDENT:kim@fantasia.stormhaven.org [12.5.48.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03234; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:10:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA31890 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:10:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:10:07 -0500 (EST) From: John Kim To: Thinkpad LISTSERV Subject: RE: [W95 reinstall LOGIC ???] In-Reply-To: <000301be608e$339e7dc0$0200a8c0@tigger> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, David Talkington wrote: > However, there IS an error in the grammatic logic. The subject of the first > sentence is "The file currently being installed", with "the one currently > being installed" being part of a subordinate clause. The term "this file" > in the subsequent sentence must, therefore, refer to the file being > installed, which is clearly NOT the one you want to keep. The meaning is > therefore not what the author intended. > > Clear as mud? Well, OTOH, the fact that it's asking if you wish to "keep" the file implies it's talking about the file already there (which is the correct one). But yeah, they should've worded it more clearly. Kinda like the exit lanes at freeways that say "only" above them. Does that mean only that lane exits the freeway, or that lane only exits the freeway (meaning the lane next to it can also exit the freeway)? > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rob Bell [mailto:rbell1@netscape.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 2:24 PM > > To: thinkpad > > Subject: Re: [W95 reinstall LOGIC ???] > > > > > > > When reinstalling W95 you can get asked the following (ish): > > > > > > "The file currently being installed is older than the one currently > > > installed. > > > Do you wish to keep this file?" > > > > > > Which one is it referring too? Keep the older or the new one about to be > > > installed?? > > > > > > Who writes these damned error message texts??!! > > > > It wants to know if you wish to keep your existing newer file. > > If you answer > > 'Yes', it will preserve the existing file and NOT copy the older > > one over the > > top of it. > > > > Q: "Who writes the messages?" > > A: People who never have to use them... > > > > HTH, > > Rob > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account > > today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail > > > -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 10:40:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA29087 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05595; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:38:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:37:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05391; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:37:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05363; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:37:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:36:25 -0500 Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hil-img-ims-4.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.7) with SMTP id KAA20696 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:35:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902261535.KAA20696@hil-img-ims-4.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:35:10 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Buying a bigger HD List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:13:59 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >1. the 8.1gig for $599 (or whatever it is today) is a new >12.5mm drive.. the 8.1gig 17mm drive is now much less.. > >2. not sure if it'll be supported properly in the 600.. A question for all: I'm thinking of going for the 8.1gig (12.7mm) rather than the 6.4gig. The cost/gig is a bit higher, but I think it's worth it. Does anyone know if the 8.1gig will work in the 600? IBM offers 6.4 and 10.x, so I don't think the sheer size of the 8.1gig is a problem (and I can stick with C: and D: if necessary). Any advice will be appreciated! andrew ------ Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] SGML Mercenaries Division of World Wide Webbers Incorporated 1883 Featherston Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K1H 6P6 Phone 613-523-2237 / Fax 613-523-6893 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 13:17:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA01152 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:17:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17220; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:15:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:14:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17019; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:14:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16957; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibm-customer (ppp-224-100.usc.edu [128.125.224.100]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id KAA20402 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:13:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:21:32 -0800 Message-ID: <01BE6171.C8001580.krieger@usc.edu> From: "Martin H. Krieger" Reply-To: "krieger@usc.edu" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Keyboard Sticky (760XD) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:20:08 -0800 Organization: USC X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I find that unless I push directly down on the keys of my 760xd there is sort of a stickyness or resistance. Very unlike the keyboard of the 755c. IBM says keyboard is just designed this way, although they would replace. What is others' experience. Thanks, Martin krieger@usc.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 14:53:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA02734 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:53:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24460; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:51:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:50:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24278; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:50:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from grove.iup.edu (SYSTEM@maple.grove.iup.edu [144.80.128.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24233; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:49:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from grove.iup.edu by grove.iup.edu (PMDF V5.2-31 #30978) id <01J87BT0K7FK91VUKY@grove.iup.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:49:01 EST Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:47:43 -0500 (EST) From: Mark J Strawcutter Subject: 12v adapter for 755cd To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <01J87BVKZXUU91VUKY@grove.iup.edu> Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I'm looking for part #, price, and sources for a 12v cigarette lighter adapter/power source for a 755cd. Thanks. ---------- Mark J Strawcutter Internet: mjstraw@grove.iup.edu Senior Research Analyst Voice: (724) 357-4007 Indiana University of Pennsylvania From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 14:57:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA02780 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24955; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:55:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:55:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24821; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24724; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:54:37 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from [158.152.181.205] (helo=bs28ha.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 10GTL2-0002o0-00; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:54:20 +0000 To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Cc: "Martin H. Krieger" Subject: Re: Keyboard Sticky (760XD) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:53:54 GMT Message-ID: <36d6fa5d.13802781@post.demon.co.uk> References: <01BE6171.C8001580.krieger@usc.edu> In-Reply-To: <01BE6171.C8001580.krieger@usc.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: I found this with my 760CD too. The keyboard became increasingly sticky with use - especially those 'shortcut' keys that I use most frequently. This obviously slowed down typing considerably. Since March 1996, the keyboartd has been replaced 3 times - the last time was just last week, which is just as well since my 3 years warranty will run out next month. Has this problem been resolved on later models like the 770? On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:20:08 -0800, "Martin H. Krieger" wrote: >I find that unless I push directly down on the keys of my 760xd there is= =20 >sort of a stickyness or resistance. Very unlike the keyboard of the = 755c.=20 > IBM says keyboard is just designed this way, although they would = replace.=20 >What is others' experience. Thanks, >Martin >krieger@usc.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 15:01:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA02841 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 15:01:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25544; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:59:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:58:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25334; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:58:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (phr@netcom9.netcom.com [192.100.81.119]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25309; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:58:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id LAA13977 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:58:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:58:21 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199902261958.LAA13977@netcom9.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: 760E List-Unsubscribe: In my opinion the 760 series aren't very well designed. The keyboard arrangement is wobbly and they have bad heat problems. The 760E runs even hotter than the others, IIRC. I'd advise getting a 600 or 770. These are much more modern and nicer machines. 770's in particular can be gotten fairly inexpensively these days in the old 13.3" Pentium versions. I have one and love it. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 21:29:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA08679 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15111; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:28:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:26:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14925; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:26:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14909; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:26:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.31.246]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990227022603.SJA8225@dts-jl> for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 02:26:03 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990226212505.00bdd220@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:25:05 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: TP600 display flicker, EasyServ In-Reply-To: <36d8adc3.3000965@mail.eclipse.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 02:26 PM 2/26/99 GMT, Michael D. Scheer wrote: >My 7 month old 600 has started to show intermittent display flicker. >Dying back-light, I guess, and time to call EasyServ, I suppose. I am >reluctant to send the machine in with the hard disk. Will they >service it if I remove the disk? > Yes, they will service it if you don't send the HDD. A good rule to follow is this: Don't send anything to EasyServ that is not related to the problem. Strip the machine - HDD, FDD, CD-ROM, additional memory, PC Cards, battery, etc. I wouldn't even send the travel bezel. Why take a chance on something getting lost or broken? Jane From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 21:54:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA08985 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16203; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:52:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16086; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:52:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.243]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16065; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:52:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from FRUNOBULAX (slip-32-100-198-71.ca.us.ibm.net [32.100.198.71]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA98650; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 02:52:17 GMT X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8 I); VM 6.67 under Emacs 19.34.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14039.24040.810000.496215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:52:24 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Replacement for 560? In-Reply-To: <8f773446.36d696f5@aol.com> References: <8f773446.36d696f5@aol.com> From: "Henry M. Benson" List-Unsubscribe: Thank you thank you thank you! By the way, these are also good for the 380 and 385 series. Henry JES770@aol.com writes: > This is off-topic; however, if you hadn't noticed, Egghead > SurplusDirect is offering the Extended Systems IBM Port > Replicator for the 560 and 560E for $29 + shipping at: > > http://www.egghead.com/store/ent/eggs_lev.browse?sect_id=SUR_4_272&sesid=^bpi! > S7231957^cen!Y^ies!DF1^ces!DF1^ > > Egghead SurplusDirect > Notebooks & Handhelds > > Notebook Hardware Add-ons > > Order one Sunday -- arrived Tuesday. Neat, well built and > gives the slopped effect of having back legs. > > Regards ... John > -- Henry M. Benson hmbtech@pobox.com HMB Technologies, Inc. Belmont, MA Voice: 617-484-1845 Fax: 617-249-0419 http://www.pobox.com/~hmbtech Consulting services in ATE design-to-test, software infrastructure and development From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 22:31:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA09427 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:31:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18201; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:30:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:28:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17945; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:28:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17901; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:28:43 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from [158.152.181.205] (helo=bs28ha.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10GaQi-000OQV-00; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 03:28:40 +0000 To: "UCLA" Cc: Subject: Re: Keyboard Sticky (760XD) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 03:28:04 GMT Message-ID: <36d76522.41139934@post.demon.co.uk> References: <00e501be61a6$d5da6e00$a9830304@gte.net> In-Reply-To: <00e501be61a6$d5da6e00$a9830304@gte.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: The 760 does not have 'butterfly' keyboard. Only the 701 has those. The 760 has the "old, tried and true, flat keyboard, raising it by little legs underneath" that you referred to. And, they have a tendency to get 'sticky'. On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 16:41:18 -0000, "UCLA" wrote: >The 770X does not have this problem, since IBM has >abandoned the 'butterfly' keyboard used on the 760 line >and gone back to the old, tried and true, flat keyboard, >raising it by little legs underneath. Stanford shaw > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Cc: Martin H. Krieger >Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 7:53 PM >Subject: Re: Keyboard Sticky (760XD) > > >I found this with my 760CD too. The keyboard became increasingly >sticky with use - especially those 'shortcut' keys that I use most >frequently. This obviously slowed down typing considerably. > >Since March 1996, the keyboartd has been replaced 3 times - the last >time was just last week, which is just as well since my 3 years >warranty will run out next month. > >Has this problem been resolved on later models like the 770? > >On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:20:08 -0800, "Martin H. Krieger" > wrote: > >>I find that unless I push directly down on the keys of my 760xd there = is >>sort of a stickyness or resistance. Very unlike the keyboard of the = 755c. >> IBM says keyboard is just designed this way, although they would = replace. >>What is others' experience. Thanks, >>Martin >>krieger@usc.edu > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 22:42:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA09595 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:42:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19021; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:40:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18921; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:40:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com (camel8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18907; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:40:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldhcj.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.197.147]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA20004; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:39:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902270339.WAA20004@camel8.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Randal Whittle" , "TP List" Date: Fri, 26 Feb 99 19:39:22 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Pagis Pro (Was: Archives) List-Unsubscribe: > I'm pleased as punch with the product--I think its fabulous and can't get >enough. I was merely expecting a method to file (electronically) certain >documents, but I got something more powerful than I expected. > I guess to input my 2 cents, my uncle has Pagis, and he says the same thing. And after looking at it myself, it seems so easy, yet powerful. Wish Microsoft products could have been that way (good marketing, bad programming). -- Paul Khoury | pkhoury@mindspring.com | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 22:43:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA09610 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:43:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19241; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:42:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:41:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19106; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:41:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com (camel8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.58]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19089; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:41:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from p75 (user-38ldhcj.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.197.147]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA07395; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:41:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902270341.WAA07395@camel8.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Angie Lee" Date: Fri, 26 Feb 99 19:41:35 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Power Brick 770 List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:04:38 PST, Angie Lee wrote: >Any ideas if a HP power adapter will work in a thinkpad 770? the specs >on the HP adapter is: >100 to 240 Vac (50 to 60 Hz) input >12 Vdc, 3.3 A output > >Looking on the bottom of the TP adapter it has: > >100-240 1.2A-0.5A input >16V 3.36A output > >Will the lower Vdc on the HP hurt the TP or will it not be sufficient? >Sure would beat having to pay $100 for a second adapter if it would >work... I think it still needs that extra 4 volts, otherwise it might not work. Most of the newer ThinkPads with the trapezoid plug seem to use about 16 volts, not less (like some of the other ThinkPads). -- Paul Khoury | pkhoury@mindspring.com | Sent from my AMD K5-200 http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 23:02:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA09879 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:02:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20345; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:01:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:00:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20180; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:00:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20166; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:00:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from 770 ([12.79.19.253]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990227035950.MIH3776@770>; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 03:59:50 +0000 Message-ID: <36D76D91.5C62@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:59:13 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List , Angie Lee Subject: Re: Power Brick 770 References: <199902270341.WAA07395@camel8.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a 770 power adaptor available for $60.00 plus shipping, if anyone needs one! Paul Khoury wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:04:38 PST, Angie Lee wrote: > > >Any ideas if a HP power adapter will work in a thinkpad 770? the specs > >on the HP adapter is: > >100 to 240 Vac (50 to 60 Hz) input > >12 Vdc, 3.3 A output > > > >Looking on the bottom of the TP adapter it has: > > > >100-240 1.2A-0.5A input > >16V 3.36A output > > > >Will the lower Vdc on the HP hurt the TP or will it not be sufficient? > >Sure would beat having to pay $100 for a second adapter if it would > >work... > > I think it still needs that extra 4 volts, otherwise it might not work. Most of the newer ThinkPads > with the trapezoid plug seem to use about 16 volts, not less (like some of the other ThinkPads). > > -- > Paul Khoury | pkhoury@mindspring.com | Sent from my AMD K5-200 > http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Feb 26 23:07:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA09954 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:07:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20649; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:03:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:03:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20567; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:03:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20539; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:03:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from leland.stanford.edu (Banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.64.168.119]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8/L) with ESMTP id UAA10718 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 20:03:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36D76ED8.3FB25695@leland.stanford.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 20:04:40 -0800 From: Benjamin Koh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Extended systems port replicator 560/380/385 References: <8f773446.36d696f5@aol.com> <14039.24040.810000.496215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: How much does it raise the front of the 560 by? I'm asking because one reason I got my 560X was because it was thin and I don't need to raise my wrists off the desk to type. I haven't been interested in this replicator as it seems to make the 560 much thicker. I was looking for the IBM version that's the size of a hole punch, but it seems to hover around $100. Any comments? "Henry M. Benson" wrote: > > Thank you thank you thank you! > > By the way, these are also good for the 380 and 385 series. > > Henry > > JES770@aol.com writes: > > This is off-topic; however, if you hadn't noticed, Egghead > > SurplusDirect is offering the Extended Systems IBM Port > > Replicator for the 560 and 560E for $29 + shipping at: > > > > http://www.egghead.com/store/ent/eggs_lev.browse?sect_id=SUR_4_272&sesid=^bpi! > > S7231957^cen!Y^ies!DF1^ces!DF1^ > > > > Egghead SurplusDirect > Notebooks & Handhelds > > > Notebook Hardware Add-ons > > > > Order one Sunday -- arrived Tuesday. Neat, well built and > > gives the slopped effect of having back legs. > > > > Regards ... John > > > > -- > Henry M. Benson hmbtech@pobox.com > HMB Technologies, Inc. Belmont, MA > Voice: 617-484-1845 Fax: 617-249-0419 > http://www.pobox.com/~hmbtech > Consulting services in ATE design-to-test, > software infrastructure and development From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 27 00:09:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA10741 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:09:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23992; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:08:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:07:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23864; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:07:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (water.vramp.net [199.171.193.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23851; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from dial8.vramp.net (dial8.vramp.net [209.107.20.23]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA24183; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:06:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902270506.AAA24183@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: Mark J Strawcutter , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:52:43 -0500 Subject: Re: 12v adapter for 755cd Reply-to: CaptJHEM@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <01J87BVKZXUU91VUKY@grove.iup.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) List-Unsubscribe: On 26 Feb 99, at 14:47, Mark J Strawcutter wrote: > I'm looking for part #, price, and sources for a 12v cigarette lighter > adapter/power source for a 755cd. Thanks. Check eBay, they frequently have them. In fact there's at least two on there as I type this. See iem no. 70018791 Regards, James James H. E. Maugham, V.P. CaptJHEM@waterw.com Share the Technology Computer Recycling Project http://www.libertynet.org/~share From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 27 00:16:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA10848 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:16:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24540; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:15:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:15:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24380; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:15:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.gate.net (root@wichita.gate.net [198.206.134.42]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24340; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:14:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from icanect.net (pslfl7-3.gate.net [199.227.131.130]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA132810; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:14:32 -0500 Message-ID: <36D77F0A.633A94E5@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:13:46 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "krieger@usc.edu" CC: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: Keyboard Sticky (760XD) References: <01BE6171.C8001580.krieger@usc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Martin.. the 760 series are well known for the poor quality keyboard.. only the 760 series suffers from this bad design.. they will last for about 6 months of heavy use, then they wear out.. a new one will cost about $50 from IBM.. (last time i checked) the 560, 600, 755 and the 770 series have great keyboards.. the 770 is the best..! Martin H. Krieger wrote: > I find that unless I push directly down on the keys of my 760xd there is > sort of a stickyness or resistance. Very unlike the keyboard of the 755c. > IBM says keyboard is just designed this way, although they would replace. > What is others' experience. Thanks, > Martin > krieger@usc.edu -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html bill@thinkpads.com, morrow1@compuserve.com, morrow@treco.net 770X-7AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 27 06:37:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA13904 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 06:37:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12577; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 06:36:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Feb 1999 06:35:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12449; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 06:35:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12436; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 06:35:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from [212.229.91.61] (helo=fever0.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10Gi1Z-0006i5-00; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 11:35:14 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 11:34:17 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" From: Nic FitzGerald Subject: error codes thing In-Reply-To: <199902261535.KAA20696@hil-img-ims-4.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 List-Unsubscribe: I done a major 'clean the keyboard' session, after reading several posts about keys being 'sticky' 'stiff' etc.. for most of my keys were stiff & sticky & gooey. So I took all the keys gently out of my 760 ED, and was horrified to find that the amount of goo underneath [I've used the 760 for about 18 month]. After extensive goo removal, I've put all the keys back, [and it was done as gently as possible, and in the case of the 760ED [I see why it was said to be the worst keyb. of all the TP's] there is nothing there either mechanical or in terms of circuitry to be damadged by a cloth & small screwdriver! Now, I get 'error code: 25 301' ! After the bios tests, the TP either freezes or passes. I've checked the Err.Codes for my model in manual and the ibm.website, but the only codes I could find were the less serious ones [I guess] begining with '0' or '1' none in the 3xx group. Why is this? Does anybody here know what does code 301 mean, please?? I can bypass the code after 2 beeps, by pressing F2, which start loading the bootsector. But I will go spare if I don't figure it out... everything seems to be in order in both w95 & NT! Regards -- Nic FitzGerald From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 27 07:09:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA14117 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:09:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA13353; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:09:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:08:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA13272; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:08:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA13259; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:08:33 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from JES770@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 5WCKa04796; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:07:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:07:46 EST To: benkoh@leland.Stanford.EDU Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Extended systems port replicator 560/380/385 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 List-Unsubscribe: Benjamin Koh asked: > How much does it raise the front of the 560 by? About 1" ... feels like a 380/770 when typing > I'm asking because one reason I got my 560X was because it was > thin and I don't need to raise my wrists off the desk to type. I haven't > been interested in this replicator as it seems to make the 560 much > thicker. Then you wouldn't like this model. > I was looking for the IBM version that's the size of a hole punch, > but it seems to hover around $100. Any comments? John __________________________________________ > "Henry M. Benson" wrote: > > > > Thank you thank you thank you! > > > > By the way, these are also good for the 380 and 385 series. > > > > Henry > > > > JES770@aol.com writes: > > > Egghead SurplusDirect is offering the Extended Systems > > > IBM Port Replicator for the 560 & 560E for $29 + shipping at: > > > > > > http://www.egghead.com/store/ent/eggs_lev.browse?sect_id=SUR_4_272&sesid=^bpi! S7231957^cen!Y^ies!DF1^ces!DF1^ > > > > > > Egghead SurplusDirect > Notebooks & Handhelds > > > > Notebook Hardware Add-ons > > > > > > Order one Sunday -- arrived Tuesday. Neat, well built and > > > gives the slopped effect of having back legs. > > > > > > John > > Henry M. Benson hmbtech@pobox.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 27 07:44:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA14327 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA14451; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:44:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:43:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA14311; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:43:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from infw1.bakerd.com (infw1.bakerd.com [208.216.217.173]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA14297; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:43:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from [132.152.0.201] by infw1.bakerd.com via smtpd (for CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) with SMTP; 27 Feb 1999 12:43:03 UT Received: from BD-Message_Server by bakerd.com with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:45:38 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:45:23 -0500 From: "Kevin Toner" To: Subject: TP600: Missing File Error Message Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Lately my TP600 has been giving me an error message at startup that it = can't find a Windows device file named "dfs.vxd"? I don't know what = software or hardware that file relates to, so I don't know where to look = for it to restore it. Any ideas? Thanks. Kevin Toner From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 27 07:46:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA14339 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:46:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA14700; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:45:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:44:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA14552; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:44:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from infw1.bakerd.com (infw1.bakerd.com [208.216.217.173]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA14539; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:44:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from [132.152.0.201] by infw1.bakerd.com via smtpd (for CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) with SMTP; 27 Feb 1999 12:44:50 UT Received: from BD-Message_Server by bakerd.com with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:47:24 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:47:20 -0500 From: "Kevin Toner" To: Subject: Disable Win98 Enter Password Screen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: How do I keep the Win98 "Enter Password" login dialog from appearing? I = do not have a password set on my TP600, but Win98 still asks me to verify = my Username and check the ok box every time I boot. Any suggestions? = Thanks. Kevin Toner From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 27 13:47:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA16593 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:47:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23254; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:45:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:43:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23105; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:43:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from ux5.cso.uiuc.edu (root@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.45]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23085; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:43:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from GeorgeNeurauter (crh4210.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.197.99]) by ux5.cso.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA02069; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:43:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001501be6280$ee5c12a0$63c57e82@GeorgeNeurauter> From: "George Neurauter" To: "Kevin Toner" , Subject: Re: TP600: Missing File Error Message (and Win 98 Network Password) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:42:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 List-Unsubscribe: ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Toner To: Sent: Saturday, February 27, 1999 6:45 AM Subject: TP600: Missing File Error Message >Lately my TP600 has been giving me an error message at startup that it can't find a Windows device file named "dfs.vxd"? I don't know what software or hardware that file relates to, so I don't know where to look for it to restore it. Any ideas? Thanks. >Kevin Toner > Kevin, If you have Windows 98, which I assume you do considering your other post, you can run the System FIle Checker utility to check for missing or damaged system files. Type "sfc" in the Run command line to run the program. Also, if you go to Network in the Control Panel, you can change your Primary Network Logon to Windows Logon instead of Client for Microsoft Networks. That should fix your password problem. George Neurauter neurautr@uiuc.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 27 13:58:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA16677 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:58:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24048; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:57:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23938; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ux5.cso.uiuc.edu (root@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.45]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23923; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from GeorgeNeurauter (crh4210.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.197.99]) by ux5.cso.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA07165; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:57:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005801be6282$c97dfbe0$63c57e82@GeorgeNeurauter> From: "George Neurauter" To: , "Nic FitzGerald" Cc: Subject: Re: error codes thing Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:55:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 List-Unsubscribe: ----- Original Message ----- From: Nic FitzGerald To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, February 27, 1999 5:34 AM Subject: error codes thing >Does anybody here know what does code 301 mean, please?? I can bypass >the code after 2 beeps, by pressing F2, which start loading the >bootsector. But I will go spare if I don't figure it out... everything >seems to be in order in both w95 & NT! If I remember right, I think 301 is simply a keyboard error which comes up when one of the keys is being held down when the BIOS checks the keyboard. I would seeing if any of the keys are stuck down or try reinstalling all the keys. George Neurauter neurautr@uiuc.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 27 17:50:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA18339 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:50:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00789; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:48:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:47:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00632; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:47:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (mail.islandnet.com [199.175.106.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00612; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:47:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from 139-142-112-239.islandnet.com [139.142.112.239] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m10GsVy-000KuOC for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 14:47:18 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: Robert_Huber@WellspringRes.com, penzance@icanect.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Copy HDD Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:09:14 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: <67F224mipZCZ092yn@islandnet.com> References: <39Gz24mipNmO092yn@islandnet.com> In-Reply-To: <39Gz24mipNmO092yn@islandnet.com> Lines: 104 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: I tried the laptop drive in an adaptor in my desktop, but it appears that the adaptor was defective: wouldn't work as a slave or as master. The "solution" I finally implemented was: - to format the 6.4 GB drive into multiple partitions: C D E F 509 MB each (8 K sectors) G H 1 GB (16 K sectors) I 2 GB (32 K sectors) J 73 MB (the dregs!) - to install Win95 from diskettes on the new drive. In this list we often discuss the benefits of reinstalling Win95 from scratch to clean up the garbage. Actually, I copied Win95 from the diskettes to the I: partition of the new drive. Then after setting up from the diskettes, I was able to divert MS's install to the hard drive. Save a bit of time on installation, and a lot of time potentially on reinstallation. - then infra-red (irda) on both the 701 and my desktop. You can download the IRDA drivers from IBM [as with everything at IBM, you have to find it first!], but you might save a step by downloading the package at JetEye. It will work for your 701 infra-red (choose IBM - other laptop), and also for your desktop infra-red, and the bonus is that it includes an app called QuickBeam which is way better than Microsoft's pathetic Direct Cable Connection. In addition, it works, which DCC did not for me! QuickBeam is bi-directional and integrated with Windows Explorer. So you can highlight a group of directories, right click and "Send To" QuickBeam. That way you sent a lot of stuff with not much overhead. The big minus of infrared is that it is slow (about 10K bytes per second). So gigabyte transfers can take a while!! I also had occasional disconnections after 50 MB or so until I put the two IR devices about an inch apart. The big pluses of infrared with QuickBeam: -- you can use either computer while the transfers are going on. There is some system load, but it doesn't slow things down by more than, say, 50%. -- no messing with disks (be they 1.4 MB or Zips or whatever) -- little messing with cabling. -- because of the ability to queue up multiple directories, you can simply go elsewhere while the computers do the work. -- the same stuff potentially works with your laptop and a printer. I sent the Win95 patch files (service pack 1, kernel update, obd update, dun 1.3 etc), by infrared and installed them on the new drive. Finally I made an archive of my minimal working Win95 installation and squirrelled it away on drive I: In article <39Gz24mipNmO092yn@islandnet.com>, I wrote: : :Nobody has mentioned this yet: : :Get a portable-to-IDE adaptor for your new drive (about $8). :Get a used Dock II with a 701 adaptor ($135 ????) :Install the new hard drive in the Dock II (you'll need a caddy :for your old drive and a caddy for the new drive) :Copy the old drive to the new drive (can't get faster than :bus access!). The Dock II solution didn't work for me because: -- the 701 would not boot in the Dock II under Win95. It could be a hardware malfunction, or it could be that I'm missing some piece of knowledge about the hardware. Seemed to be a SCSI problem. I wasn't planning to use SCSI anywya, but could not surmount that problem. -- the Dock II was missing its (non-standard) IDE cable. :The select pins on the drive might be an issue, but an :old-style caddy may well select your new drive to be a slave :(this is a problem in most new-drive installations, but here it :could work to your advantage, at least at the beginning). On an old-style drive you jumper the last two pins to make it a master. On the new-style drive you jumper the last two pins to make it a slave. The old-style caddy allows you to do either. However, the new-style drives have TORX screw holes in different places from the old drives, so using a new drive with an old caddy involves some play with the drive in the caddy, or a new way to affix the drive to the caddy (I should have tried scotch tape!) or drilling new holes in the plastic of the caddy. That's what I did, but I should simply have bought a new caddy. : :Swap. : :Would it work? : :More expensive, but you have a Dock II when you're finished. : -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 27 20:34:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA19474 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:34:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05026; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:33:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:31:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04885; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:31:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04872; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:31:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [212.229.91.61] (helo=fever0.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10Gv4y-0004Rl-00; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 01:31:36 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 01:30:07 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Nic FitzGerald Subject: Re: error codes thing In-Reply-To: <005801be6282$c97dfbe0$63c57e82@GeorgeNeurauter> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 List-Unsubscribe: In message <005801be6282$c97dfbe0$63c57e82@GeorgeNeurauter>, George Neurauter writes > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Nic FitzGerald >To: >Cc: >Sent: Saturday, February 27, 1999 5:34 AM >Subject: error codes thing > > > >>Does anybody here know what does code 301 mean, please?? I can bypass >>the code after 2 beeps, by pressing F2, which start loading the >>bootsector. But I will go spare if I don't figure it out... everything >>seems to be in order in both w95 & NT! > >If I remember right, I think 301 is simply a keyboard error which comes up >when one of the keys is being held down when the BIOS checks the keyboard. I >would seeing if any of the keys are stuck down or try reinstalling all the >keys. > >George Neurauter >neurautr@uiuc.edu > > Thanks, you were quite right: the number 4 key wasn't properly inserted. After I put in again all was fine. The code had a malicious feel about it though! Regards -- Nic FitzGerald From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 27 20:48:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA19567 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:48:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05737; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:47:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:46:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05601; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:46:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.mindspring.com (smtp1.mindspring.com [207.69.200.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05588; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:46:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from tp760 (user-38ldg4g.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.192.144]) by smtp1.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA24840; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:46:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902280146.UAA24840@smtp1.mindspring.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Nic FitzGerald" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 27 Feb 99 17:46:38 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: error codes thing List-Unsubscribe: If it helps to anyone on this topic, most generic error codes have the same general meaning as other IBM machines, even dating back to XT's and PS/2's. -- Paul Khoury | pkhoury@mindspring.com | Sent from my ThinkPad 760ED http://warped.cswnet.com/~pkhoury/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Feb 27 22:51:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA20618 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:51:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08553; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:50:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:49:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08418; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:49:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (mail.islandnet.com [199.175.106.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08403; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:49:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from 139-142-112-211.islandnet.com [139.142.112.211] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m10GxEH-000Ku3C for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 19:49:21 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: rwhittle@usa.net Cc: hmb@pobox.com, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Pagis Pro Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 19:41:12 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990224143124.00b3d100@rcf.usc.edu> Lines: 26 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: I just purchased Pagis Pro. Part way through a session of transferring files via the JetBeam infrared program, I installed Pagis Pro on the desktop. Resuming the transfers, JetBeam / QuikBeam would no longer transmit directories or groups of directories, using SendTo in the right click menu. It would only transmit single files, one at a time. Uninstalling Pagis Pro, QuikBeam was now able to transfer directories and groups of directories. Looks like Pagis is going to be one of those very intrusive programs that I normally don't allow on my computer. : For what its worth, I have a fabulous program that I picked up in early :Jan. called "Pagis Pro" by Scansoft, a Xerox company. It allows you to :scan in various documents & etc. and index all of them, but can also index :most file formats you already have, which allows for some surprisingly :powerful search capabilities. It even color-codes and categorizes the :results to indicate the liklihood of the match you are seeking, and also :does "natural language" searching. : -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 28 09:52:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA24809 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01450; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:51:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:50:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01292; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:50:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from astor.interport.net (astor.interport.net [199.184.165.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01279; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:49:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from pritzr (arcts1p220.port.net [207.237.110.220]) by astor.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA16472 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:51:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990228094515.00a0c930@pop.interport.net> X-Sender: rpritz@pop.interport.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:50:31 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: richard Subject: 600e availability? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone know when the new Thinkpad 600e will be available? Specifically, the model 2645-3AU. They've been listed on ibm's web site for a few weeks, but I can't find anyone who has them in stock. Also, does anyone know why there is such a big price differnce between the 3AU and the 5AU? The differences between the two machines seems to be 32mb v. 64mb ram, 4gb v. 6.4gb and 300mhz v. 366mhz, for a price diffence of about $1200 ($2700 v. $3900 being the lowest prices I've seen listed). From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 28 12:23:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA25923 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:23:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05466; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:21:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:20:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05319; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:20:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pike.sover.net (pike.sover.net [209.198.87.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05306; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:20:52 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from MYHOSTNAME (arc1a168.bf.sover.net [209.198.81.170]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA07406; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:20:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902281720.MAA07406@pike.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on pike.sover.net) MYHOSTNAME from arc1a168.bf.sover.net [209.198.81.170] 209.198.81.170 Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:20:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:14:15 -0500 To: richard , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990228094515.00a0c930@pop.interport.net> Subject: Re: 600e availability? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 b60 List-Unsubscribe: Its shipping for corporate sales already, so I would think the retail channels will have it in a few weeks. I think the pricing is set simply by whatever the traffic will bear. PC Connection has been all over the board on this one. First it was $4150, then $2800, now $4050. If we could form a buyers group and place big orders, we could probably deal and get it closer to the $2500 price some corporations are paying. --That also shows how much profit is in these things. >Does anyone know when the new Thinkpad 600e will be available? >Specifically, the model 2645-3AU. They've been listed on ibm's web site >for a few weeks, but I can't find anyone who has them in stock. >Also, does anyone know why there is such a big price differnce between >the 3AU and the 5AU? The differences between the two machines seems to >be 32mb v. 64mb ram, 4gb v. 6.4gb and 300mhz v. 366mhz, for a price >diffence of about $1200 ($2700 v. $3900 being the lowest prices I've seen >listed). _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 28 14:43:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA27154 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:43:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09820; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:40:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09660; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:40:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09645; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from PAF (207-172-64-178.s178.tnt17.brd.erols.com [207.172.64.178]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA26344 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:39:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990228143907.00d92568@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: paforte@pop.erols.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:39:08 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: richard (by way of "Patrick A. Forte" ) Subject: 600e availability? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone know when the new Thinkpad 600e will be available? Specifically, the model 2645-3AU. They've been listed on ibm's web site for a few weeks, but I can't find anyone who has them in stock. Also, does anyone know why there is such a big price differnce between the 3AU and the 5AU? The differences between the two machines seems to be 32mb v. 64mb ram, 4gb v. 6.4gb and 300mhz v. 366mhz, for a price diffence of about $1200 ($2700 v. $3900 being the lowest prices I've seen listed). From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Feb 28 15:30:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA27540 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:30:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11522; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:29:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:28:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11389; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:28:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from astor.interport.net (astor.interport.net [199.184.165.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11374; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:28:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pritzr (arcts1p220.port.net [207.237.110.220]) by astor.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA07267; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:30:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990228152352.00a0e5d0@pop.interport.net> X-Sender: rpritz@pop.interport.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:29:23 -0500 To: letoured@sover.net From: richard Subject: Re: 600e availability? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199902281720.MAA07406@pike.sover.net> References: <4.1.19990228094515.00a0c930@pop.interport.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:14 PM 2/28/99 -0500, letoured@sover.net wrote: >Its shipping for corporate sales already, so I would think the retail >channels will have it in a few weeks. > >I think the pricing is set simply by whatever the traffic will bear. PC >Connection has been all over the board on this one. First it was $4150, >then $2800, now $4050. If we could form a buyers group and place big >orders, we could probably deal and get it closer to the $2500 price some >corporations are paying. --That also shows how much profit is in these >things. PC Connection has listed the 3AU for approx $2800 every time I've checked. $4050 is for the 5AU or the 8AU.