From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 1 01:31:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA03429 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 01:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02039; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 01:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 01:29:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01901; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 01:29:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01888; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 01:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (192.100.81.119 -> netcom9.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 01:29:02 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id WAA00679 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:29:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199907010529.WAA00679@netcom9.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: quiet drives List-Unsubscribe: Forget finding a really quiet hard disk drive. Generally, physically smaller drives are quieter; 3.5" drives are quieter than 5.25" drives, 2.5" drives are quieter than 3.5", etc. I haven't even found a 1.8" PCMCIA drive that wasn't annoyingly loud in a quiet bedroom in the middle of the night. I've bitten the bullet and gotten the quietest drive of them all, a totally silent 160 MB Viking PCMCIA type II flash card (about $350 now). The idea is to use it as working storage: basic Linux OS and utilities, Emacs, a web browser, and a few other things, plus some user files. Less frequently used stuff would go on the hard drive which I'd occasionally have to spin up and access. Unfortunately I haven't gotten this scheme to work because of PCMCIA problems with the Viking card on my 770 (it reports itself as the wrong kind of card) and Viking tech support hasn't been much help. I will have to reproduce the problem under Windoze 95 before I can get them to do something about it, and I haven't had time for that. I've used one flash-drive computer before (HP Omnibook 300 with 10 MB card) and loved it. The flash card beats the heck out of a hard drive. Rotating storage seems like a decaying monstrosity, like CRT monitors. Flash drives with 320 MB are available now and 1 GB drives will probably be available by the end of the year ($$$$$$). I believe that with some discipline in resisting code bloat, 160 MB is enough for most purposes. So I'm really hoping to get this working soon. Maybe I can work on it a bit more this weekend. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 1 02:56:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA03954 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 02:56:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05102; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 02:55:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 02:54:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04960; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 02:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04945; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 02:54:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (206.127.32.35 -> tam.dorsai.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 02:54:21 -0400 Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (higgins@amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA27831 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 02:58:34 -0400 (EDT) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id CAA27571 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 02:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907010658.CAA27571@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: WSJ's Mossberg Reviews TP 240 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad list) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 02:58:30 -0400 (edt) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The Wall Street Journal's tech columinst Walter Mossberg reviews the new Thinkpad 24 and Sony Vaio 505z in Thursday, july 1's paper. Loves the 240, calls it the best in the ultralight class. Hates the sony Z505 because Sony added too much weight without adding ports. As usual, I will e-mail to anyone who doesn't get the paper or subscribe to the web site. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins Broadcasting & Cable Magazine higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 1 05:46:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA00906 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 05:46:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA18277; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 05:42:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 05:41:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA18063; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 05:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA18050; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 05:40:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (192.134.240.50 -> uhbhic.uhb.fr) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 05:40:59 -0400 Received: from tp-770 (cb1341.uhb.fr [192.134.240.30]) by uhbhic.uhb.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with SMTP id LAA14581 ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:40:50 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <377B3A21.3335@uhb.fr> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 11:51:29 +0200 From: Sylvestre Meininger X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mick McQuaid CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Video capture on 770X References: <19990628112718.C16038@U.Arizona.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > Has anyone had reasonable success with video capture on the > 770X or 770Z? Any tips? Just my 2 cents, but I think those guys you talked to are right. I've done extensive research on the web to find out whether it was possible to do decent video capture with a 770 TP and I think that's definitely impossible. I mean definitely. IBM remains very vague on the subject, I think in order not to acknowledge the fact that this "video capture" feature just does not work (except for still images ot crummy video conferencing...). I once read a post by someone who seemed very knowledgeable in TP hardware which said that the Video Adapters hardware could do decent capture but that IBM would never write the appropriate drivers because there's no market worth such an investment. >They recommend several desktop capture cards. I wonder if one of these >could be connected to the 770X via a SCSI adapter and some kind of >docking station. That's the only solution. BUT someone recently posted something about IBM's Docking Stations having *poor* PCI performance, which would be a major nuisance for video capture and editing. I think you should buy a desktop, high end SCSI hard drives and controler and a real video capture card. There's just no othr way to do what you want to do. Good luck. PS : Greg Langham's post could be of some interest to you too : >I have a Selectadock III with a Selectabase 770 and a 9549-8AU 770Z. I >have installed a Number 9 PCI Digital video card which is part of the Silicon Graphics 17.3" flat panel bundle. (Which, by the way, is the only monitor I have ever seen which beats the 13.7" LCD of the 770). My question is this: When I connect my 770 to the dock, then boot, the machine produces no display on the pci card. It waits about 10 seconds, beeps, then automatically reboots. At this point, I get a display on the pci adapter and everything is fine. Now, when I undock and turn my machine on, I get the standard power on display. Again, it goes for about 10 seconds just sitting there, beeps once, turns off the LCD, then comes back up and boots. If I reboot the machine while still undocked, the machine doesn't go through this procedure. I'm guessing that the machine is noticing a change in its configuration and must reconfigure something in the BIOS. Now the problem is this: If I boot connected to the dock after having been undocked, everything works fine; however, If I boot twice in a row when connected to the dock, the machine hangs and never even produces a display at the second boot. The solution is to pull the machine out of the dock, boot, turn it off, and plug it back into the dock. Seems a bit clumsy. I have noticed others using pci video (voodoo cards, etc.) and was wondering if this is just a characteristic, or do I have something configured wrong? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 1 05:50:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA01453 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 05:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA18755; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 05:46:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 05:45:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA18525; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 05:45:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay20.jaring.my (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA18491; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 05:45:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay20.jaring.my (192.228.128.131 -> relay20.jaring.my) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 05:45:04 -0400 Received: from warren1 (j2.ptl39.jaring.my [161.142.116.196]) by relay20.jaring.my (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA20106 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:44:51 +0800 (MYT) From: "Warren Tan Wing Wah" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Networking my Thinkpad in DOS to Windows desktop Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:45:00 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I have a TP 560X running MS-DOS 6.0, without a CD-ROM drive. I have a 3Com 3C589D PCMCIA network card, as well as Windows 98 running on a desktop PC. The desktop's network adapter and settings are configured already. I need the laptop to access a CD-ROM drive on the desktop, but I can't install Windows (because I don't have an external CDROM drive) to do so the normal way. Now the question is how I network a DOS laptop with the Windows machine. Would appreciate any help! Thanks in advance. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 1 06:39:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA01731 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 06:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20308; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 06:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 06:37:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20182; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 06:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20146; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 06:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 06:36:15 -0400 Received: from p2-450 (client-151-204-210-32.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.32]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id GAA01409; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 06:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990701063840.041dc294@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 06:38:40 -0400 To: "Warren Tan Wing Wah" , "Thinkpad" From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Networking my Thinkpad in DOS to Windows desktop In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 05:45 PM 07/01/1999 +0800, Warren Tan Wing Wah wrote: >I have a TP 560X running MS-DOS 6.0, without a CD-ROM drive. I have a 3Com >3C589D >PCMCIA network card, as well as Windows 98 running on a desktop PC. The >desktop's network adapter and settings are configured already. I need the >laptop to access a CD-ROM drive on the desktop, but I can't install Windows >(because I don't have an external CDROM drive) to do so the normal way. > >Now the question is how I network a DOS laptop with the Windows machine. IF you want to install Win9x, in cases like this, I either: A. Use a bullet parallel port drive that holds all the various OSR releases of Win9x B. Copy the win9x directory via laplink (parallel). C. Use a terminal program and link the machines via serial (serial). If you are installing OSR_0-2 (Win95, Win95a, Win95b), the files are relatively small. You can safely delete the 25meg CIS monstrosity install file and bring your OSR_2 (revB) down to a comparable size. If you need to install Win98, do the same procedure, but goto bed after starting the procedure, because your systems will be occupied for awhile. :) If you still require a MS-DOS based machine that requires access to Win9x/NT resources: For older machines that need access to Windows network resources but still mandate pre Win9x environment, I install Windows for WorkGroups 3.11. It is able to access all Windows resources, is a lot smaller and was the last gasp for Windows 3.x with decent networking (precursor to Win9x). You can map and use printers and drives on Win9x and NT machines. I have a TP755c that runs MSDOS and WfWG 3.11, and it uses a 3c589d combo adapter. 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Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 1 10:24:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA02995 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02143; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:24:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:19:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01690; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from linkline.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01673; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:19:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from linkline.com (207.67.165.2 -> elantra.linkline.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:19:41 -0400 Received: from DESKTOP [207.67.190.219] by linkline.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A89CEF00276; Thu, 01 Jul 1999 07:18:04 -0700 From: "David Dunn" To: "Randal Whittle" , Subject: RE: Interesting TP accessory prices Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 07:21:42 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990630164627.02af3f10@rcf.usc.edu> List-Unsubscribe: Try calling, I don't know why your browser showed different prices then when I went to the page. However, mine showed different prices than the original posters did. David Dunn -----Original Message----- From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@usa.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 4:47 PM To: David Dunn; TP List Subject: RE: Interesting TP accessory prices At 07:09 AM 6/29/99 -0700, you wrote: >Thanks for the info. I went to their site and they listed the TP600 adapter >for 69$-25$rebate=45$. Where did you see the price for the AC adapter for >19$? Also it states that a Mailer code is required for rebate, is this the >source code number you had at the bottom of your email? >Follow these procedures. > >warehouse.com/ibmopmail >or 800-551-9577 >Source code P95x20 I went to the site and see "normal" prices. Did I miss out, or is there something special you have to do to see (and obtain) what the rebates would be on each item? - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 1 11:31:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA03560 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:31:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07740; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:29:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07427; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:29:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07409; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:29:16 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-301.gate.net [199.227.173.47]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA175828; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:31:02 -0400 Message-ID: <377B8939.5FDE6F9B@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 11:28:57 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Tan Wing Wah CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: Networking my Thinkpad in DOS to Windows desktop References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Well, beyond doing a network, if all you want it to get win9x on the 560, use an older version of laplink and the parallel port.. laplink the cabs to the HDD and run from there.. :-) i have laplink5 that works well enough and it all fits a standard floppy.. you'll need the proper cable, but if thats a difficulty, you can do it with a slightly modified serial cable.. (much slower, but it does work)... Warren Tan Wing Wah wrote: > I have a TP 560X running MS-DOS 6.0, without a CD-ROM drive. I have a 3Com > 3C589D > PCMCIA network card, as well as Windows 98 running on a desktop PC. The > desktop's network adapter and settings are configured already. I need the > laptop to access a CD-ROM drive on the desktop, but I can't install Windows > (because I don't have an external CDROM drive) to do so the normal way. > > Now the question is how I network a DOS laptop with the Windows machine. > > Would appreciate any help! > > Thanks in advance. -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 1 13:00:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02055 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:00:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14252; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 12:56:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 12:54:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13698; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 12:54:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13683; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 12:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (140.142.78.6 -> jason05.u.washington.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 12:54:22 -0400 Received: from dante07.u.washington.edu (ranger5@dante07.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.9]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA46860; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:54:17 -0700 Received: from localhost (ranger5@localhost) by dante07.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA41508; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:54:16 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:54:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "M. Kokaly" To: John Higgins cc: Thinkpad list Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: John, Thanks very much for the notice about the great deal. I called Micro Warehouse and ordered them that way and got 2 $24.95 batteries. Unfortunately, I ordered a $99.95 from PC Zone a week ago, but who can really complain about 3 batteries for $150? How can I get on that mailer? Matthew On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, M. Kokaly wrote: > > John, > > I couldn't find the great deals. The battery listing I see there says > $249.00 before rebate, not $24.90 after rebate. Was this some kind of > typo? I went as far as to add it to my shopping cart and it still says > $249.00. Not as good as the $99 pczone deal. Let me know if I'm doing > something wrong. > > Matthew > > On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, John Higgins wrote: > > > > > > > Got some interesting mail from Micro Warehouse today on IBM Thinkpad > > accessories. ALl are prices after a $25 rebate > > > > TP 560 batteries $24.95!!!!! > > 56w AC Adapter for thinkpad 600 $19.95 > > Internal 100MB Zip Drive $49.95 > > > > Those seem to be the biggest bargains, but there are some other > > specials. > > > > Follow these procedures. > > > > warehouse.com/ibmopmail > > or 800-551-9577 > > Source code P95x20 > > > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > John M. Higgins > > Broadcasting & Cable Magazine > > higgins@dorsai.org > > v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 1 13:03:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02109 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14782; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:00:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 12:59:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14616; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 12:59:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14536; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 12:59:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907011659.MAA14536@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (128.95.79.96 -> tokeru.geology.washington.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 12:59:06 -0400 Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Fri, 30 Jun 1989 9:56:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor Kress" To: "TP List" Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 09:59:07 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Re[2]: Airplane power adapter? List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:31:48 -0700, Randal Whittle wrote: > Request a seat in the emergency exit row. You get more leg room because >the aisle has to be wider for emergency exits. You also get more room >between you and the front seat so you have a place for your ThinkPad >without worrying about the moron in front of you leaning back and cracking >your screen. But be careful, many of the exit rows on United 757s don't have underseat luggage space. If (as is often the case) people in the back of the plane have filled up the overhead bins on their way by, the airline human will want to check your precious thinkpad or stash it somewhere else on the plane. Normally, I keep the thinkpad on my lap on top of the case. I'm always vigilant about the person in front getting a sometimes violent urge to recline. I never use the tray tables. ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 1 15:19:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA03768 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 15:19:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24077; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 15:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 15:15:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23906; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 15:15:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23825; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 15:13:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (195.174.27.3 -> home.egenet.com.tr) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 15:13:59 -0400 Received: from localhost (turgut@localhost) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA18856; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:15:56 +0400 (EET DST) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:15:55 +0400 (EET DST) From: Turgut Kalfaoglu To: Victor Kress cc: TP List Subject: Re: Re[2]: Airplane power adapter? In-Reply-To: <199907011659.MAA14536@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Victor Kress wrote: > Normally, I keep the thinkpad on my lap on top of the case. I'm always vigilant about > the person in front getting a sometimes violent urge to recline. I never use the tray > tables. Argh; I hate those people; I usually push them right back. Come to think of it, I think I hate air travel -- the "sardine class" that I fly, anyway :) -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu, EgeNet Internet Services http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 1 17:02:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA01745 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:02:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03110; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:58:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:57:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02941; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:57:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02870; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:57:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fantasia.stormhaven.org (12.5.48.10 -> fantasia.stormhaven.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:57:24 -0400 Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by fantasia.stormhaven.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA21373 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:57:16 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:57:16 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: quiet drives In-Reply-To: <199907010529.WAA00679@netcom9.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Paul Rubin wrote: > > I've bitten the bullet and gotten the quietest drive of them all, a > totally silent 160 MB Viking PCMCIA type II flash card (about $350 now). > > I've used one flash-drive computer before (HP Omnibook 300 with 10 MB card) > and loved it. The flash card beats the heck out of a hard drive. > Rotating storage seems like a decaying monstrosity, like CRT monitors. > Flash drives with 320 MB are available now and 1 GB drives will probably > be available by the end of the year ($$$$$$). I believe that with some Just a word of warning. IIRC, flash memory is slower than a hard drive, on the order of floppy drive speeds for writes. Reads are nice and quick though. -- John H. Kim kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 1 17:06:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA01810 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03704; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:03:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:03:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03576; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilot013.cl.msu.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03555; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:02:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilot013.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.113 -> pilot013.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:02:59 -0400 Received: from andres (pm527-32.dialip.mich.net [35.9.48.84]) by pilot013.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA53786; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:02:46 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990701170252.00906b00@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 17:02:52 -0400 To: John Kim , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: quiet drives In-Reply-To: References: <199907010529.WAA00679@netcom9.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Can someone tell me if flash memory is reasonable these days, in terms of the number of write cycles it can handle before it starts to get flakey? Thanks. --STeve Andre' andres@pilot.msu.edu At 04:57 PM 7/1/99 -0400, John Kim wrote: >On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Paul Rubin wrote: >> >> I've bitten the bullet and gotten the quietest drive of them all, a >> totally silent 160 MB Viking PCMCIA type II flash card (about $350 now). >> >> I've used one flash-drive computer before (HP Omnibook 300 with 10 MB card) >> and loved it. The flash card beats the heck out of a hard drive. >> Rotating storage seems like a decaying monstrosity, like CRT monitors. >> Flash drives with 320 MB are available now and 1 GB drives will probably >> be available by the end of the year ($$$$$$). I believe that with some > >Just a word of warning. IIRC, flash memory is slower than a >hard drive, on the order of floppy drive speeds for writes. >Reads are nice and quick though. > >-- >John H. Kim >kim@stormhaven.org From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 1 19:13:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA02799 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:13:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10871; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:12:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10635; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:12:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from einstein.phy.duke.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10587; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from einstein.phy.duke.edu (152.3.182.4 -> einstein.phy.duke.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:12:07 -0400 Received: from lem.phy.duke.edu (hsg@lem.phy.duke.edu [152.3.182.25]) by einstein.phy.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04319 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:12:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from hsg@localhost) by lem.phy.duke.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA04828; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:11:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:11:55 -0400 Message-Id: <199907012311.TAA04828@lem.phy.duke.edu> From: "Henry S. Greenside" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Inexpensive RAM modules for 570? List-Unsubscribe: What kind of RAM does the Thinkpad 570 take and can anyone suggest an inexpensive 3rd party source? Would be looking to upgrade from 64 to 128 MB. Thanks, Henry From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 1 19:59:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA03031 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:59:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13504; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:58:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:58:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13346; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.innernet.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13330; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:58:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.innernet.net (207.121.52.9) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:58:12 -0400 Received: from pii333 [205.130.19.146] by mail.innernet.net (SMTPD32-5.01) id A08D13B000AC; Thu, 01 Jul 1999 19:58:05 EDT Message-ID: <004901bec41f$4738fd20$020aa8c0@pii333> From: "Slip" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Anyone interested in buying a 701c? Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:10:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Hi there, I feel it's time to let the legend rest on my end. It's been sitting in it's atache ever since the 770 came into view. I just can't afford to keep it. It's in good condition and I'd be glad to give it another home...Here are the spec's: -486Dx/75Mhz -24mb ram(8 onboard + 16 added)(still have the extra 8mb dimm BTW) -720Mb HDD with Win95 and Office97 -NiMH battery that'll hold a charge for around 1.5-2hrs depending on usage -original floppy drive and cable -floppy to parallel port converter cable -16bit snd -14.4 data/fax/voice modem -port replicator(the latch is broken however but works 100% perfectly) -will consider throwing in a home & away NIC if the price is right(yes, these 'lil suckers *do* work. And they work great IMHO...) -10.4" Active Matrix screen(only two bad pixels) -AC adaptor -original manual The battery will ocasionally need to be 'reset'. This is when the system thinks it's fully charged when it's not. Any TP701 owner knows that this is easily fixable with a simple software program). Cosmeticly the usual wear-and-tear apply, but it is in good condition. The cover that covers the one back hinge is broken, but it doesn't look bad at all and does not effect anything either. Overall in my opinion this laptop is in great condition. If you have any questions, feel free to e-mail or call. In way of price, I think $425 is reasonable...Make me an offer! (reasonable offers only pls) S&H added to the cost as well. -Jamie 717-597-9501 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 2 05:21:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA02419 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 05:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06364; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 05:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 05:18:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA05636; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 05:18:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.ibm.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA05537; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 05:18:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.ibm.net (165.87.194.239 -> out4.ibm.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 05:18:17 -0400 Received: from sierpinski (slip-32-100-62-177.hi.us.ibm.net [32.100.62.177]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA125484 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 09:18:12 GMT Message-ID: <009b01bec46b$d4e56220$b13e6420@sierpinski> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Some more bargains spotted Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 23:18:19 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: Since we're talking about bargain accessories for one's TP...www.compgeeks.com has 1.2 gig 2.5" Travelstar drives for $49, and last week at Fry's in Sacramento I saw a Hi-Val 24X pcmcia external CD-ROM drive for about $60 (there was only one left). - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 2 05:50:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA02529 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 05:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA10880; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 05:49:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 05:49:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA10724; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 05:49:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shakti.slis.indiana.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA10711; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 05:49:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shakti.slis.indiana.edu (129.79.33.57 -> shakti.slis.indiana.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 05:49:06 -0400 Received: from bird (host212-140-153-5.host.btclick.com [212.140.153.5]) by shakti.slis.indiana.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 772E4A903; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 04:48:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990702103952.00799100@ophelia.ucs.indiana.edu> X-Sender: jfieber@ophelia.ucs.indiana.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 10:39:52 +0100 To: Bill Morrow , "J. Williams" From: John Fieber Subject: Re: 770ED Fan Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <377AC3AB.623FE5D7@icanect.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 21:26 30/06/99 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: >set the machine on a thermometer.. >but you have no base line to compare against.. > >you sure should feel air flow, but not much, and only after the machine turns >the fan on.. The spec sheet for the 600E (2645-[3458A]AU) indicates an "LM75 digital thermometer" but the handfull of shareware and freeware temperature monitors I've tried which are supposed to access this all fail. Has anyone had success? -john From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 2 11:35:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA04668 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01480; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:30:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01128; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01049; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:30:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:30:30 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-505.gate.net [199.227.173.251]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA26318; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:32:14 -0400 Message-ID: <377CDB00.30ACA52C@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 11:30:08 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Fieber CC: "J. Williams" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770ED Fan References: <3.0.6.32.19990702103952.00799100@ophelia.ucs.indiana.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hmmm.. i'll BET that IBM has such a utility on their CE diskette or otherwise available.. maybe only to business partners and maybe (even!) to PC VAR's, like your truly... i WONDER who to call on this.. meantime, can you point me to some of these shareware applets.. ? :-) John Fieber wrote: > At 21:26 30/06/99 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: > >set the machine on a thermometer.. > >but you have no base line to compare against.. > > > >you sure should feel air flow, but not much, and only after the machine turns > >the fan on.. > > The spec sheet for the 600E (2645-[3458A]AU) indicates an "LM75 digital > thermometer" but the handfull of shareware and freeware temperature > monitors I've tried which are supposed to access this all fail. Has anyone > had success? > > -john -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 2 12:27:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA05501 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:27:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06102; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:26:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:25:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05924; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:25:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05908; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:25:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov (128.183.50.20 -> wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:25:45 -0400 Received: from dhelfrich.gsfc.nasa.gov (dhelfrich.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.215.1]) by wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28440 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:26:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00c201bec4a2$5eb32f60$01d7b780@dhelfrich.gsfc.nasa.gov> From: "Dan Helfrich" To: Subject: TP600 Fan error (was: 770ED Fan) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:48:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Speaking of fans, recently I have been getting error 192 on startup (intermittently) on my TP600 (266MHz). And I don't feel the same warm flow out the left-side vent hole. I'm sending it in for EZServe service shortly. Has anyone else experienced this? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel D. Helfrich, Mechanical Systems Manager, EOS Chemistry Project NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Code 543, Greenbelt, Maryland, USA 20771 phone: (301)286-8481 fax: (301)286-1744 email: helfrich@gsfc.nasa.gov -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow To: John Fieber Cc: J. Williams ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 11:34 AM Subject: Re: 770ED Fan >Hmmm.. >i'll BET that IBM has such a utility on their CE diskette or otherwise available.. > >maybe only to business partners and maybe (even!) to PC VAR's, like your truly... >i WONDER who to call on this.. > >meantime, can you point me to some of these shareware applets.. ? :-) > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 2 12:33:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA05645 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:33:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06840; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:32:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:32:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06644; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06613; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:31:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (24.128.1.70 -> ne.mediaone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:31:52 -0400 Received: from Laptop (plumbush.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.150.141]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA21717 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:31:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003901bec4a8$61eb1a20$0200a8c0@Laptop> From: "Jeffrey Baker & Bay James" To: References: Subject: Re: quiet drives (770Z) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:31:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I'm wondering what it's reasonable to expect as to quietness. This new laptop, with the 14.1 gig hd, is for my purposes remarkably noisy -- a constant high whining noise that I find irritating. I sit with the machine for hours, writing, and the noise is quite unpleasant, even when I have music playing. I don't know whether it's a problem with this drive/ this machine, or whether it's "normal." I also read somewhere, I believe, about interference noise caused by poor shielding in these machines, but don't know whether it could be that as opposed to the hard drive. Thanks. All input appreciated -- Jeff From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 2 13:01:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA06025 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 13:01:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08049; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:46:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07693; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:46:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilot009.cl.msu.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07678; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:46:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilot009.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.109 -> pilot009.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:46:06 -0400 Received: from andres (pm526-37.dialip.mich.net [35.9.48.39]) by pilot009.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA36954 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:46:02 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990702124610.008fbba0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 12:46:10 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: quiet drives (770Z) In-Reply-To: <003901bec4a8$61eb1a20$0200a8c0@Laptop> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: There is variance between any two identical disks I'm afraid, and worse is the fact that all of them are more noisy than you'd like. My 4G disk on my 1451 i is louder than I'd like it be, but another 1451 I recently saw had a louder disk, so I stopped my mental objections--mine was better! These small disks are a real engineering marvel, but with any such item there are tradeoffs. They are all optimized for size first above all else, then power consumption. Noise is not far up on the design criteria list, as I understand it. There certainly are things that could be done to dampen noise levels but they all involve physical changes to the disk, adding weight, size and cost to the bottom line. Given the ever increasing noise pollution in our lives I don't think the disk people really see this as an issue, which is a pity. As I write this I'm more annoyed at my disks soft whining sound--but others I know who have laptops just look at me when I've asked them about disk noise; they just don't care. Now, it still could be the case that your disk is one of the really noisy ones, and maybe you could get it replaced. But I think you'll be in for a fight on that one; how does one determine whats reasonable? With an active matrix display at least, there is never any doubt as to bad pixels; everyone can see them and then argue about how many have to be bad to be "bad". Not so with noise, alas. Good luck with it and perhaps the noise will get better over time. I've seen noise all but disappear before, and I have never understood that one. --STeve Andre' andres@pilot.msu.edu At 12:31 PM 7/2/99 -0400, Jeffrey Baker & Bay James wrote: >I'm wondering what it's reasonable to expect as to quietness. This new >laptop, with the 14.1 gig hd, is for my purposes remarkably noisy -- a >constant high whining noise that I find irritating. I sit with the machine >for hours, writing, and the noise is quite unpleasant, even when I have >music playing. I don't know whether it's a problem with this drive/ this >machine, or whether it's "normal." I also read somewhere, I believe, about >interference noise caused by poor shielding in these machines, but don't >know whether it could be that as opposed to the hard drive. Thanks. All >input appreciated -- Jeff From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 2 15:01:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA07301 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:01:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16869; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:58:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16654; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:58:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.hillsdale.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16638; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:58:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.hillsdale.edu (198.109.220.35 -> mail.hillsdale.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:58:38 -0400 Received: from snfibm770ed (p3E9D3792.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.157.55.146]) by mail.hillsdale.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id 3CXCL367; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:54:52 -0400 From: "Steven N. Fettig" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: Quick Help regarding HD info for TP770E-ED Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 20:58:00 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2212 (4.71.2419.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me with getting some information. I have a TP 770ED (9549-5AU) and am looking at getting another HD for my system to be used in the UltraBay - i.e. along side the internal HD. I have found some good prices for HD's on some auction sites (IBM Travelstar Drives) and called some people at IBM's tech support for information on whether it would work with my system. One said that it would work but another claimed that the only drives I can use are Thinkpad drives (yes, with the name in front of HD...) I wanted to know if anyone has had any luck specifically with other brand HD's for use in the UltraBay on the 770 series. Before I shell out the money at an auction for a drive I cannot use, I want to actually make sure it is possible. (I'm just not in a position to shell out 1/3 the cost of my machine for another HD...) Thanks for any help! Steve ________________________________________________________________________ Steven N. Fettig Network Development & Management Hillsdale College Hillsdale, MI Email: snfettig@hillsdale.edu Tel: (USA & Canada - Voicemail) +1 888 835 3268 x2567 (Int'l - Direct) +49 171 812 9667 (from the USA & Canada 011 49 171 812 9667) Fax: +1 603 288 0296 ICQ: 15804759 ________________________________________________________________________ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 2 15:58:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA07902 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:58:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20461; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:57:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:56:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20273; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from yonge.cs.toronto.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20260; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:56:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from yonge.cs.toronto.edu (128.100.2.11 -> yonge.cs.toronto.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:56:37 -0400 Received: from dvp.cs.toronto.edu ([128.100.2.81]) by yonge.cs.toronto.edu with SMTP id <86653-17694>; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:56:32 -0400 Received: by dvp.cs.toronto.edu id <15581-6937>; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:56:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:56:22 -0400 From: Alvin Chia-Hua Shih To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: quiet drives Message-ID: <19990702155622.D10350@dvp.cs> References: <199907010529.WAA00679@netcom9.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199907010529.WAA00679@netcom9.netcom.com>; from Paul Rubin on Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 01:29:00AM -0400 List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 01:29:00AM -0400, Paul Rubin wrote: > [...] Unfortunately I > haven't gotten this scheme to work because of PCMCIA problems with the > Viking card on my 770 (it reports itself as the wrong kind of card) > and Viking tech support hasn't been much help. I will have to > reproduce the problem under Windoze 95 before I can get them to do > something about it, and I haven't had time for that. > Please keep us posted on this. I have a Pretec flash card which steadfastly refuses to play with my TP770ED. It does all sorts of weird things under Windows 95. My SanDisk 10MB works fine. This is really annoying since my previous Laptop, a Tecra 730XCDT, worked perfectly with both of my ATA flash cards... IBM support was not able to arrive at a solution for this. ACS -- Alvin C. Shih | To live in a society that does not treat | its elders with dignity is to live in a http://www.cs.utoronto.ca/~acs/ | society of constant fear; for no one is ftp://ftp.cs.utoronto.ca/pub/acs/ | immune to the effects of time... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 2 16:03:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA07934 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:03:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21092; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:02:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:01:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20905; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kepler.pa.msu.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20854; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:01:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kepler.pa.msu.edu (35.8.48.107 -> kepler.pa.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:01:16 -0400 Received: from pa.msu.edu ([35.8.50.80]) by kepler.pa.msu.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA08909; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:01:11 -0400 (EDT) Sender: rockwell@kepler.pa.msu.edu Message-ID: <377D1A73.FF0BFDB7@pa.msu.edu> Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 16:00:51 -0400 From: Tom Rockwell Organization: MSUHEP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I called warehouse and the order taker wanted the part numbers from the flyer (different from the regular ones on the web site) in order to give the special prices. Does somebody have the part numbers for the 560 battery and the 56w power adapter? I'd appreciate it if someone sent these to me. Thanks, Tom Rockwell >John, >Thanks very much for the notice about the great deal. I called Micro >Warehouse and ordered them that way and got 2 $24.95 batteries. >Unfortunately, I ordered a $99.95 from PC Zone a week ago, but who can >really complain about 3 batteries for $150? >How can I get on that mailer? >Matthew > > > > > > Got some interesting mail from Micro Warehouse today on IBM Thinkpad > > accessories. ALl are prices after a $25 rebate > > > > TP 560 batteries $24.95!!!!! > > 56w AC Adapter for thinkpad 600 $19.95 > > Internal 100MB Zip Drive $49.95 > > > > Those seem to be the biggest bargains, but there are some other > > specials. > > > > Follow these procedures. > > > > warehouse.com/ibmopmail > > or 800-551-9577 > > Source code P95x20 > > > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > John M. Higgins > > Broadcasting & Cable Magazine > > higgins@dorsai.org > > v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 2 17:34:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA02151 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:34:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26608; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:33:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:32:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26424; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26411; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (134.102.224.3 -> bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:32:30 -0400 Received: from henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (postfix@henker.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.219.172]) by bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA17034 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 23:32:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from henker-1.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (henker-1.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.217.98]) by henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C25104C; Fri, 02 Jul 1999 23:31:18 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 23:32:02 +0200 (MET DST) From: Steffan Henke X-Sender: henker@henker-1.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 560E and control panel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I've just recently replaces a 365 with a 560E and am really happy with it though I am missing an advanced control panel under Win 95. I've installed the DOS and Win utility disks but do not have an advanced option for the power management functions. Before I installed Win 95 from scratch, there was Windows 98 installed - I had a special Thinkpad entry in the control panel then. Is there a special feature disk for the 560 available ? I haven't actually found anything on the installation cd and nothing on IBM's web site. Regards, Steffan -- ... Our continuing mission: To seek out knowledge of C, to explore strange UNIX commands, and to boldly code where no one has man page 4. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 2 17:54:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA02409 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:54:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28034; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:53:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:51:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27669; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:51:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.innernet.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27638; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:51:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.innernet.net (207.121.52.9) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:51:50 -0400 Received: from pii333 [205.130.19.128] by mail.innernet.net (SMTPD32-5.01) id A46B113900DA; Fri, 02 Jul 1999 17:51:39 EDT Message-ID: <002401bec4d6$7bd2a380$020aa8c0@pii333> From: "Slip" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Is this a real 770? Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 18:01:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I'v been looking at the 770 as my next system and I found this ad on the internet. The seller seems flaky, so I just want to be sure that this machine/model actually exists. If so, can someone tell me the model/type? It is brand spankin' new in the box. What is the 12Mb SGRAM? If this is video ram, I thought that the max VRAM that the 770 had was 8mb...And how can the sound card be 64 bit if it's on an ISA bus? Thanks a lot! -Jamie IBM ThinkPad 770 Series--Pentium II 366MHz MMX 14.1 Active Matrix Display (1024 x 768) 128Mb of Ram expandable to 288Mb 9.1 gig hd 56k MODEM DVD CD ROM Dual Battery Support 12MB SGRAM 64 Bit Sound w/voice recognition w/ Car Adapter Super Light Weight, Super Slim (New Design) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 2 17:55:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA02419 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:55:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28028; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:53:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:51:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27637; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:51:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dragon.goamerica.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27620; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:51:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dragon.goamerica.net (206.138.237.234 -> dragon.goamerica.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:51:45 -0400 Received: from ixswykpv (slip129-37-106-185.wa.us.ibm.net [129.37.106.185]) by dragon.goamerica.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA22507; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:51:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990702145012.01507a40@pop.goamerica.net> X-Sender: goa4500400231@pop.goamerica.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 14:50:12 -0700 To: Tom Rockwell , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: John Callahan Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices In-Reply-To: <377D1A73.FF0BFDB7@pa.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have ordered and received the battery for the ThinkPad 560 from Microwarhouse. The Item Number shown on the document I received with the shipment is AA1520 Good luck. John Callahan At 04:00 PM 7/2/99 -0400, Tom Rockwell wrote: >I called warehouse and the order taker wanted the part numbers from the >flyer (different from the regular ones on the web site) in order to give >the special prices. Does somebody have the part numbers for the 560 >battery and the 56w power adapter? I'd appreciate it if someone sent >these to me. > >Thanks, >Tom Rockwell > > > >>John, > >>Thanks very much for the notice about the great deal. I called Micro >>Warehouse and ordered them that way and got 2 $24.95 batteries. >>Unfortunately, I ordered a $99.95 from PC Zone a week ago, but who can >>really complain about 3 batteries for $150? > >>How can I get on that mailer? > >>Matthew >> > >> > >> > Got some interesting mail from Micro Warehouse today on IBM Thinkpad >> > accessories. ALl are prices after a $25 rebate >> > >> > TP 560 batteries $24.95!!!!! >> > 56w AC Adapter for thinkpad 600 $19.95 >> > Internal 100MB Zip Drive $49.95 >> > >> > Those seem to be the biggest bargains, but there are some other >> > specials. >> > >> > Follow these procedures. >> > >> > warehouse.com/ibmopmail >> > or 800-551-9577 >> > Source code P95x20 >> > >> > >> > >> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> > John M. Higgins >> > Broadcasting & Cable Magazine >> > higgins@dorsai.org >> > v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 >> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > ----- John Callahan, Editor Information Technology Research Enterprise Automation Report 2608 Second Avenue Suite 240 Member: Computer Press Association Seattle, WA 98121 USA Phone: (206) 282-7050 Web: http://www.itr.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 2 20:58:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA03413 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 20:58:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02918; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 20:12:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 20:10:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02680; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 20:10:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02667; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 20:10:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (199.175.106.4 -> mail.islandnet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 20:10:41 -0400 Received: from 139-142-112-197.islandnet.com [139.142.112.197] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m110DO4-000WS1C for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:10:32 -0700 (PDT) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: quiet drives (770Z) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 16:41:54 -0700 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <3.0.6.32.19990702124610.008fbba0@pilot.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990702124610.008fbba0@pilot.msu.edu> Lines: 21 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: The original 720 MB on my 701C was much quieter than the spare 720 MB, which in turns is quieter than the 6.4 GB which replaced it. All are IBM made. The fact that I bought the latter two through inexpensive channels may have a bearing. Perhaps IBM takes the quieter part of the production run!? If power consumption is an issue, it's too bad that they can't reduce the power wasted as noise. Or modify its frequency. A low hum like the background noise of Star Trek TNG wouldn't be so offensive. Or make the sound more musical. Or perhaps somebody could invent a "caddy" which would baffle the sound in laptops, or "bread" between which to sandwich a hard drive in a desktop. OK, sure, they need to be able to dissipate heat, but a sound insulator isn't necessarily a heat insulator. -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 2 21:16:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA03769 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 21:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04896; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 21:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 21:14:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04709; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 21:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04695; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 21:14:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 21:14:31 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-420.gate.net [199.227.173.166]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA439242; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 21:16:27 -0400 Message-ID: <377D63ED.9EF6AEA6@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 21:14:22 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeffrey Baker & Bay James CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: quiet drives (770Z) References: <003901bec4a8$61eb1a20$0200a8c0@Laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: a high whining noise is NOT to be expected.. if its the HDD, then get it swapped out.. if its coming from the speakers, it might be a software problem.. i'm sure the shielding is sufficient, but is it the HDD or....? Jeffrey Baker & Bay James wrote: > I'm wondering what it's reasonable to expect as to quietness. This new > laptop, with the 14.1 gig hd, is for my purposes remarkably noisy -- a > constant high whining noise that I find irritating. I sit with the machine > for hours, writing, and the noise is quite unpleasant, even when I have > music playing. I don't know whether it's a problem with this drive/ this > machine, or whether it's "normal." I also read somewhere, I believe, about > interference noise caused by poor shielding in these machines, but don't > know whether it could be that as opposed to the hard drive. Thanks. All > input appreciated -- Jeff -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 2 23:39:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA02584 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 23:39:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09001; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 23:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 23:38:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08815; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 23:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.zbzoom.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08802; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 23:37:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.zbzoom.net (208.236.36.3 -> ns1.zbzoom.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 2 Jul 1999 23:37:54 -0400 Received: from tomscomputer (58.tcg2.tcg.dialup.nauticom.net [209.195.138.58]) by ns1.zbzoom.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id XAA16235 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 23:37:19 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Thomas A. Jones" To: Subject: subscribe Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 23:37:14 -0400 Message-ID: <000201bec505$57dd93c0$3a8ac3d1@tomscomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: subscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 3 01:01:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA02880 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 01:01:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11587; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 01:00:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 00:59:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11481; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 00:59:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay2.jaring.my (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11467; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 00:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay2.jaring.my (192.228.128.12 -> relay2.jaring.my) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 00:59:33 -0400 Received: from warren1 (j26.ptl47.jaring.my [161.142.194.220]) by relay2.jaring.my (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA28770; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:59:24 +0800 (MYT) From: "Warren Tan Wing Wah" To: "M. Kokaly" Cc: "Thinkpad" Subject: RE: Interesting TP accessory prices Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:59:34 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Well, I would buy one of them off you if you wanted to sell one off ;) The problem is that I'm in Malaysia, and MicroWarehouse only ships to US addresses. Dang :) I wouldn't mind paying for the shipping, plus a little commision for your trouble and effort, if any kind soul out there who is ordering one would be kind enough to order another for me :) > -----Original Message----- > From: M. Kokaly [mailto:ranger5@u.washington.edu] > Sent: 02 July 1999 12:54 AM > To: John Higgins > Cc: Thinkpad list > Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices > > > John, > > Thanks very much for the notice about the great deal. I called Micro > Warehouse and ordered them that way and got 2 $24.95 batteries. > Unfortunately, I ordered a $99.95 from PC Zone a week ago, but who can > really complain about 3 batteries for $150? > > How can I get on that mailer? > > Matthew > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 3 07:18:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA04262 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 07:18:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27924; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 07:18:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 07:16:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27681; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 07:16:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bradnet.legend.co.uk (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27668; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 07:16:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bradnet.legend.co.uk (194.164.19.39 -> bradnet.legend.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 07:16:31 -0400 Received: by bradnet.legend.co.uk (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.03/2.0) id MAA008.99; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:08:07 +0100 Message-Id: <199907031108.MAA008.99@bradnet.legend.co.uk> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 99 12:08:06 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: [TP600] internal modem To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] for OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: Many thanks to those folks who gave me suggestions as to what needed to be in my Config.sys to get my internal modem working. Unfortunately I couldn't figure it out due to either missing statements, incorrect order or countless other things. However, I have managed to get the installation to work properly by using up 2GB of disk space by creating some dummy files - how do I get this info through to someone at IBM? This is a huge bug in the installation routine! The README.TXT insists that 'No installation errors have been reported'!!!! It also says to contact product support if a problem is encountered, without actually giving any contact info... :-(. Now that it is installed I see the same lines as given to me by letoured, so I'm not sure why it didn't work - I had updated all the path statements as well... One thing I haven't figured out is how do I get the internal modem to use COM1? Can't see any options for doing this... -- John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 3 08:33:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA04508 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 08:33:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29806; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 08:32:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 08:31:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29608; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 08:31:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.advi.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29594; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 08:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.advi.net (208.139.144.3 -> mail.advi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 08:31:27 -0400 Received: from ecamin (s139149095.advi.net [208.139.149.95]) by mail.advi.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id IAA10155; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 08:29:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001901bec54f$df9f4d40$5f958bd0@ecamin> From: "Edwin A Camin" To: , References: <199907031108.MAA008.99@bradnet.legend.co.uk> Subject: Re: [TP600] internal modem Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 08:30:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: I finally gave up trying to upgrade my TP600 modem and reloaded the original shipped modem program. What was the fix? What words do I add to my config.sys? Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: John Poltorak To: Sent: Saturday, July 03, 1999 7:08 AM Subject: [TP600] internal modem > Many thanks to those folks who gave me suggestions as to what needed > to be in my Config.sys to get my internal modem working. Unfortunately > I couldn't figure it out due to either missing statements, incorrect > order or countless other things. However, I have managed to get the > installation to work properly by using up 2GB of disk space by > creating some dummy files - how do I get this info through to someone > at IBM? This is a huge bug in the installation routine! The README.TXT > insists that 'No installation errors have been reported'!!!! > It also says to contact product support if a problem is encountered, > without actually giving any contact info... :-(. > > Now that it is installed I see the same lines as given to me by > letoured, so I'm not sure why it didn't work - I had updated all the > path statements as well... > > One thing I haven't figured out is how do I get the internal modem to > use COM1? Can't see any options for doing this... > > > -- > John > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 3 10:52:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA04841 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 10:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03726; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 10:51:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 10:50:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03542; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 10:50:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pike.sover.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03529; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 10:50:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from pike.sover.net (209.198.87.34 -> pike.sover.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 10:50:39 -0400 Received: from MYHOSTNAME (arc1a86.bf.sover.net [209.198.80.86]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA06941; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 10:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907031431.KAA06941@pike.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on pike.sover.net) MYHOSTNAME from arc1a86.bf.sover.net [209.198.80.86] 209.198.80.86 Sat, 3 Jul 1999 10:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 09:17:16 -0400 To: John Poltorak , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199907031108.MAA008.99@bradnet.legend.co.uk> Subject: Re: [TP600] internal modem X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 b60 List-Unsubscribe: >installation to work properly by using up 2GB of disk space by creating >some dummy files - how do I get this info through to someone at IBM? This >is a huge bug in the installation routine! I use to see stuff like this back in the days of DOS. If the installation is on a partition larger then 2gb it failed. I forgot the cause of it, but it looks like they have managed to extend the problem from DOS to all its Pretty Brothers. --And Bill Gates said DOS is dead. >One thing I haven't figured out is how do I get the internal modem to use >COM1? Can't see any options for doing this... You have to install the Thinkpad Configuration program and set it there. (this is another cobbed up installation routine). I doubt either of these will ever be fixed because the PC Company will end all OS2 support for the TP 600 at the end of the year. --At least that was what I was told two months ago. I can't find the e-mail addresses that I had for OS2 support, but you can report a problem through the "contact us " screens on the Thinkpad support web site. Sometimes they get back right away. Sometimes it takes awhile. Ed Letourneau _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 3 12:47:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA05399 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:47:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07877; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:45:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07770; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07756; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:45:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (207.69.200.30 -> smtp0.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:45:44 -0400 Received: from 770ed (user-38lca61.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.40.193]) by smtp0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA09307 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:45:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990703124147.0092de10@mindspring.com> X-Sender: rchalk@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 12:45:32 -0400 To: From: Richard Chalk Subject: 770ED Windows 2000 question (Video Capture) In-Reply-To: <199907031631.MAA24312@pike.sover.net> References: <001901bec54f$df9f4d40$5f958bd0@ecamin> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have installed Windows2000 on a ThinkPad 770ED, and the basic program works fine. My question concerns the Video Capture driver on IBM's web site. They say it is for 770x and 770z with enhanced video adapter. No mention of the 770ED, but I seem to think it is the same video adapter as fits the x and z models. Has anyone tried this driver in a 770ED? TIA Richard From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 3 12:56:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA05471 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:56:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07206; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:31:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07028; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:31:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pike.sover.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07015; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:31:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from pike.sover.net (209.198.87.34 -> pike.sover.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:31:19 -0400 Received: from MYHOSTNAME (tempa39.bf.sover.net [207.136.202.39]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA24312 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:31:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907031631.MAA24312@pike.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on pike.sover.net) MYHOSTNAME from tempa39.bf.sover.net [207.136.202.39] 207.136.202.39 Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:31:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 11:53:36 -0400 To: In-Reply-To: <001901bec54f$df9f4d40$5f958bd0@ecamin> Subject: Re: [TP600] internal modem X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 b60 List-Unsubscribe: >I finally gave up trying to upgrade my TP600 modem and reloaded the >original shipped modem program. What was the fix? What words do I add >to my config.sys? This problem was in the installation of OS2 drivers. If you're using Wxx somone else will have to jump in. _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 3 12:56:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA05465 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:56:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06119; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:14:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:13:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05883; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.area54.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05870; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:13:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from mercury.area54.net (205.177.191.50) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:13:09 -0400 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA12087 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:13:11 -0400 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:13:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: michael@mercury.area54.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Home & Away, 701c, win95B Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Last year sometime I remember some talk about replacing some files in win95b to make the Home&Away cards work. Does any one recall what those files were?? The card has been patched with the win95 fix. Thanks.. Michael Cummings From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 3 17:24:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA07171 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:24:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14439; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:22:58 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14242; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:22:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (128.169.92.76 -> VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:22:57 -0400 Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id RAA11687 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:22:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13876; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (212.126.144.6 -> scrabble.freeuk.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:04:20 -0400 Received: from [212.126.145.225] (helo=du-001-0225.freeuk.com) by scrabble.freeuk.net with smtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 110WxN-0000Bs-00 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 21:04:18 +0000 From: nickdixon@bigfoot.com (Nick Dixon) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: trackpoint covers Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 21:03:04 GMT Reply-To: nickdixon@bigfoot.com Message-ID: <37807a83.278327279@relay.freeuk.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: Hi there, I have a pack of 10 IBM trackpoint covers - all with the smooth top, not the abrasive top. (They are marked "P/N 84G6537" on the bag") I use the abravise kind and have no use for these smooth top one's.=20 Is anyone interested in these? Nick -- THE DAILY DAMON: http://www.thedailydamon.clara.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 3 21:15:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA01694 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 21:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19223; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 21:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 21:13:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19089; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 21:13:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from onlink4.onlink.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19071; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 21:13:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from onlink4.onlink.net (206.108.253.68 -> onlink4.onlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 21:13:10 -0400 Received: from nrba2-44.onlink.net (nrba2-44.onlink.net [207.210.99.173]) by onlink4.onlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA75244 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 21:13:06 -0400 Message-Id: <199907040113.VAA75244@onlink4.onlink.net> From: "Alex Bell" To: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 21:14:15 +0000 Reply-To: "Alex Bell" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: DVDs, Thinkpads, and OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: I am embarrassed to show my ignorance on these topics, but if I don't I won't find out what I want to know. Can anyone point me to FAQs on DVDs in general, DVDs in Thinkpads, and DVDs and OS/2? I understand that DVDs can be run using hardware and software methods; is that correct? I want to explore the possibility of putting a DVD drive in my Thinkpad 385XD. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 3 21:29:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA01766 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 21:29:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19854; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 21:29:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 21:28:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19731; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 21:28:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19718; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 21:28:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.37 -> mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 21:28:15 -0400 Received: from 770 ([12.79.16.136]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990704012812.ETKP4651@770>; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 01:28:12 +0000 Message-ID: <377EB881.2ABE@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 21:27:29 -0400 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Bell CC: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: DVDs, Thinkpads, and OS/2 References: <199907040113.VAA75244@onlink4.onlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: If your ThinkPad is Active Color, and has a Zoom Video PCMCIA port, you may be able to use the Portable DVD drive made by EXP (www.EXPNET.com), along with a Margi decoder card. You will NEVER find drivers for OS2. This is a W95-98 setup ONLY. Alex Bell wrote: > > I am embarrassed to show my ignorance on these topics, but if I don't I > won't find out what I want to know. > > Can anyone point me to FAQs on DVDs in general, DVDs in Thinkpads, and > DVDs and OS/2? I understand that DVDs can be run using hardware and > software methods; is that correct? I want to explore the possibility > of putting a DVD drive in my Thinkpad 385XD. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 3 22:40:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA02021 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:40:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21789; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:38:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21566; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.area54.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21553; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:38:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from mercury.area54.net (205.177.191.50) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:38:42 -0400 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by mercury.area54.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA12859 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:38:53 -0400 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:38:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: michael@mercury.area54.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Anyone have a dead 701 for sale?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi.. I have a 701c with a broke battery clip. IBM wants 125.00 for a base asm. that contains the clip/latch. Does anyone have a broke/dead one that they would part with for a amount less than the new base??? Thanks.. Michael Cummings From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 4 01:32:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA02669 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 01:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26221; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 01:30:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 4 Jul 1999 01:29:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26072; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 01:29:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26059; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 01:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (209.228.14.76 -> c004-h005.c004.sfo.cp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 4 Jul 1999 01:29:19 -0400 Received: (cpmta 12484 invoked from network); 3 Jul 1999 22:29:08 -0700 Received: from mg128-172.ricochet.net (HELO MACGREGOR) (204.179.128.172) by smtp.detayls.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 1999 22:29:08 -0700 X-Sent: 4 Jul 1999 05:29:08 GMT Message-ID: <00b201bec5de$30763f60$ac80b3cc@detayls.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Alex Bell" , "Thinkpad Mailing List" References: <199907040113.VAA75244@onlink4.onlink.net> Subject: DVD Frequently Asked Questions (with answers!)... Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:29:05 -0700 Organization: Detayls MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: This is the June 28, 1999 revision of the official Internet DVD FAQ for the rec.video.dvd Usenet newsgroups. http://www.videodiscovery.com/vdyweb/dvd/dvdfaq.html#1 Enjoy! David ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Bell To: Thinkpad Mailing List Sent: Saturday, July 03, 1999 2:14 PM Subject: DVDs, Thinkpads, and OS/2 > I am embarrassed to show my ignorance on these topics, but if I don't I > won't find out what I want to know. > > Can anyone point me to FAQs on DVDs in general, DVDs in Thinkpads, and > DVDs and OS/2? I understand that DVDs can be run using hardware and > software methods; is that correct? I want to explore the possibility > of putting a DVD drive in my Thinkpad 385XD. > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 4 03:11:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA03381 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 03:11:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA01255; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 03:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 4 Jul 1999 03:10:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA01084; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 03:10:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.edge.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA01071; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 03:10:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.edge.net (199.0.68.4 -> mail.edge.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 4 Jul 1999 03:10:03 -0400 Received: from edge.net ([208.21.80.33]) by mail.edge.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-58127U5600L300S0V35) with ESMTP id AAA1509 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 02:05:23 -0500 Sender: root@edge.net (Operator) Message-ID: <377F09E0.7696B600@edge.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 02:14:41 -0500 From: John Waalkes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.7 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 5 03:49:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA02393 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 03:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10912; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 03:48:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 5 Jul 1999 03:45:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10689; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 03:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from access.crcn.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10674; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 03:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from access.crcn.net (206.12.129.3 -> access.crcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 5 Jul 1999 03:45:27 -0400 X-ROUTED: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 00:46:12 -0800 Received: from [206.12.131.40] by access.crcn.net with smtp id 00463784 ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 00:45:54 -0800 From: "Pat Presidente" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Calling Linux Gurus Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 00:43:28 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Well, I've taken the plunge and installed Redhat 6.0 on the partitioned hard drive of my 380XD. Everything went fine until I tried getting monitor support for Xwindows. Things just go blank. I have an external NEC Multisync XP17 attached. That particular monitor isn't listed as a choice so I tried the XE17. Tried a few other things as well but without success. If anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate it. Thanks Pat ========================================================================= Pat Presidente School District 72 (Campbell River) District Technology Resource Teacher 425 Pinecrest Road Email: pat.presidente@sd72.bc.ca Campbell River, BC V9W 3P2 Ph.(250) 830-2353 Fx.(250) 830-2329 Your door to the future ========================================================================= Well you know I could have me a million more friends And all I'd have to lose is my point of view - John Prine ========================================================================= From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 5 16:23:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05596 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:23:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12400; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:22:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:21:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12288; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:21:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chele.cais.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12275; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chele.cais.net (199.0.216.212 -> chele.cais.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:21:53 -0400 Received: from localhost (rj@localhost) by chele.cais.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA08472; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:18:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:18:01 -0400 (EDT) From: rj To: Bill Morrow cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP600E and win98SE In-Reply-To: <3781103F.B8E2E3AB@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Indeed! Go back to NT :-) On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, Bill Morrow wrote: > Gentlemen... > > OK, i took this 600E with the NT preload (which runs beautifully, BTW) > and loaded the win98 preload on it.. > this preload was for an older version of the 600E, so to make it work > correctly i applied all the updates utilities and drivers.. > all works FINE under win98 1st edition as supplied by IBM.. > > NOW, the trouble comes when i try to upgrade to win98 2nd edition... > it loads well, up to the point of the win98 setup window which sets up: > > Control Panel > Programs on the Start Menu > Windows Help > MS-DOS program settings > Tuning up Application Start > System Configueration > > the whole thing gets stuck on the "Programs on the Start Menu" item... > > this has occured while trying to load win98 2nd edition fresh and over > the preload as described above.. > > anyone have any thoughts on this..? > > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > vary, Done on a > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 5 16:56:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05899 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11503; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:07:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:06:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11308; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11293; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:06:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:06:33 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-150.gate.net [199.227.20.213]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA366282 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:08:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3781103F.B8E2E3AB@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 16:06:23 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: TP600E and win98SE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Gentlemen... OK, i took this 600E with the NT preload (which runs beautifully, BTW) and loaded the win98 preload on it.. this preload was for an older version of the 600E, so to make it work correctly i applied all the updates utilities and drivers.. all works FINE under win98 1st edition as supplied by IBM.. NOW, the trouble comes when i try to upgrade to win98 2nd edition... it loads well, up to the point of the win98 setup window which sets up: Control Panel Programs on the Start Menu Windows Help MS-DOS program settings Tuning up Application Start System Configueration the whole thing gets stuck on the "Programs on the Start Menu" item... this has occured while trying to load win98 2nd edition fresh and over the preload as described above.. anyone have any thoughts on this..? -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 5 17:15:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA06048 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14291; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:15:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:14:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14154; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14140; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:14:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (147.225.51.39 -> mosquito.ny.ans.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:14:08 -0400 Received: from localhost (bkomar@localhost) by mosquito.ny.ans.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA05444; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:14:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mosquito.ny.ans.net: bkomar owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:14:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Komar X-Sender: bkomar@mosquito.ny.ans.net To: John Waalkes cc: "thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: Re: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <377F09E0.7696B600@edge.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, John Waalkes wrote: > unsubscribe The proper way to unsubscribe from this list: List-Unsubscribe: mailto:thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu Subject=unsubscribe Have a nice day... Bruce Komar From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 5 17:47:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA06260 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15441; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:45:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:44:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15316; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:44:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15302; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (209.228.14.76 -> c004-h005.c004.sfo.cp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:44:24 -0400 Received: (cpmta 14121 invoked from network); 5 Jul 1999 14:44:20 -0700 Received: from mg128-131.ricochet.net (HELO MACGREGOR) (204.179.128.131) by smtp.detayls.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 1999 14:44:20 -0700 X-Sent: 5 Jul 1999 21:44:20 GMT Message-ID: <008c01bec72f$97f2e1a0$8380b3cc@detayls.com> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Bill Morrow" , "ThinkPad List" References: <3781103F.B8E2E3AB@icanect.net> Subject: Re: TP600E and win98SE Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:44:41 -0700 Organization: Detayls MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: Make sure that you have the latest BIOS. It has some ACPI fixes and they may be important. David ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morrow To: ThinkPad List Sent: Monday, July 05, 1999 1:06 PM Subject: TP600E and win98SE > Gentlemen... > > OK, i took this 600E with the NT preload (which runs beautifully, BTW) > and loaded the win98 preload on it.. > this preload was for an older version of the 600E, so to make it work > correctly i applied all the updates utilities and drivers.. > all works FINE under win98 1st edition as supplied by IBM.. > > NOW, the trouble comes when i try to upgrade to win98 2nd edition... > it loads well, up to the point of the win98 setup window which sets up: > > Control Panel > Programs on the Start Menu > Windows Help > MS-DOS program settings > Tuning up Application Start > System Configueration > > the whole thing gets stuck on the "Programs on the Start Menu" item... > > this has occured while trying to load win98 2nd edition fresh and over > the preload as described above.. > > anyone have any thoughts on this..? > > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > vary, Done on a > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 5 18:11:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA06516 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 18:11:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16316; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 18:04:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 5 Jul 1999 18:04:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16209; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 18:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16196; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 18:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 5 Jul 1999 18:04:17 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-150.gate.net [199.227.20.213]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA153466; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 18:06:15 -0400 Message-ID: <37812BD9.DDABE7DD@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 18:04:09 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David W. Taylor" CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP600E and win98SE References: <3781103F.B8E2E3AB@icanect.net> <008c01bec72f$97f2e1a0$8380b3cc@detayls.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: already did the newest bios.. when i did the win98 load.. the machine was actually singing along like a champ.. in fact, its SO NICE i really want to keep the thing.. but i can't fall in love with these machines.. :-o ! i'm going to put the drive in my 770Z and take a look at the log file.. David W. Taylor wrote: > Make sure that you have the latest BIOS. It has some ACPI fixes and they > may be important. > > David > > - **SNIP** -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 5 19:19:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA06908 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18902; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:11:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18776; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18763; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:11:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.1 -> dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:11:21 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA26446; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 18:10:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907052310.SAA26446@dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga14-57.ix.netcom.com(207.95.119.121) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma026441; Mon Jul 5 18:10:38 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Allan Ballard" Cc: "thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 19:11:20 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 760 CD List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I am new to this list. I use a Thinkpad760 CD with a p90, 64Mb Viking RAM, and two IBM 3.0 gig drives. Also two 850 Mb drives for storage, and backup of the original IBM dose95 preload. Tomorrow I pick up a mainboard with a p120 cpu, and hope it wil improve things a little bit, particulaly PowerPoint slides. I am interested in learning more about the unit's multimedia features for making presentations. I think I see how to capture motion video, but am a little hazy on still images. Can a slide projector be hooked to this machine for capturing the slides? So far I don't see how. Though woefully underpowered by today's standards -- even with a p120 -- the 760CD is an ideal multimedia/presentation laptop -- if only one can decipher all its many engineering marvels. Thanks in advance. Allan Ballard From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 5 22:38:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA01615 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25361; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:31:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:30:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25163; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:30:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp5.mindspring.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25150; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:30:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp5.mindspring.com (207.69.200.82 -> smtp5.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:30:54 -0400 Received: from ms154504 (user-2ivfj6s.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.204.220]) by smtp5.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA13614; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990705222943.0092f9f0@mindspring.com> X-Sender: rchalk@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 22:30:36 -0400 To: "Eric Giles" , "ThinkPad List" From: Richard Chalk Subject: Re: TP600E and win98SE In-Reply-To: <005701bec752$54e82be0$e08b89d0@ericgile> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: If you wait long enough, it will eventually continue, but it takes a LONG time looking for the non-existent floppy drive. Richard At 08:53 PM 7/5/99 -0500, Eric Giles wrote: >Bill- > >I am assuming that you have the CD-ROM/DVD drive in the drive bay. Do you >happen to have the floppy drive hooked up with the external cable at the >same time? I ran into almost the same thing when I originally upgraded my >770ED to win98. I remembered from many desktop installs that this is at the >point that it accesses the floppy drive. Hooking up the floppy drive solved >the installation hang. > >Hope this helps! > >Eric Giles > >NOW, the trouble comes when i try to upgrade to win98 2nd edition... >>it loads well, up to the point of the win98 setup window which sets up: >> >>Control Panel >>Programs on the Start Menu >>Windows Help >>MS-DOS program settings >>Tuning up Application Start >>System Configueration >> >>the whole thing gets stuck on the "Programs on the Start Menu" item... >> >>this has occured while trying to load win98 2nd edition fresh and over >>the preload as described above.. >> >>anyone have any thoughts on this..? >> >> >>-- >>Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... >> >>** Bill Morrow ** :-) >>WEB page http://thinkpads.com >>Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html >>Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop >>e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net >>770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... >> >>Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will >>vary, Done on a >>closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. >> >> From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 5 23:02:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA01764 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 23:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23640; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:48:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:47:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23543; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:47:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sammy.netpathway.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23530; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sammy.netpathway.com (208.137.139.2 -> sammy.netpathway.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:47:47 -0400 Received: from ericgile (port27-wayn.netpathway.com [208.137.139.224]) by sammy.netpathway.com (8.9.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA16554 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:47:45 -0500 Message-ID: <005701bec752$54e82be0$e08b89d0@ericgile> From: "Eric Giles" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: TP600E and win98SE Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:53:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Bill- I am assuming that you have the CD-ROM/DVD drive in the drive bay. Do you happen to have the floppy drive hooked up with the external cable at the same time? I ran into almost the same thing when I originally upgraded my 770ED to win98. I remembered from many desktop installs that this is at the point that it accesses the floppy drive. Hooking up the floppy drive solved the installation hang. Hope this helps! Eric Giles NOW, the trouble comes when i try to upgrade to win98 2nd edition... >it loads well, up to the point of the win98 setup window which sets up: > >Control Panel >Programs on the Start Menu >Windows Help >MS-DOS program settings >Tuning up Application Start >System Configueration > >the whole thing gets stuck on the "Programs on the Start Menu" item... > >this has occured while trying to load win98 2nd edition fresh and over >the preload as described above.. > >anyone have any thoughts on this..? > > >-- >Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) >WEB page http://thinkpads.com >Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html >Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop >e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net >770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > >Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will >vary, Done on a >closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 6 00:35:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA02219 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:35:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28692; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:28:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:27:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28613; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:27:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28596; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:27:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:27:39 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-76.gate.net [199.227.20.139]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA155112; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:29:37 -0400 Message-ID: <378185B3.BEE1DFCF@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 00:27:31 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Giles CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP600E and win98SE References: <005701bec752$54e82be0$e08b89d0@ericgile> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: i plugged in the external floppy and i am now waiting so see if it gets past this hang up.. i was going to read the log file, but that can wait a bit.. :-) AND, guess what..?! it got past it..!! more in a minute.. :-)) Eric Giles wrote: > Bill- > > I am assuming that you have the CD-ROM/DVD drive in the drive bay. Do you > happen to have the floppy drive hooked up with the external cable at the > same time? I ran into almost the same thing when I originally upgraded my > 770ED to win98. I remembered from many desktop installs that this is at the > point that it accesses the floppy drive. Hooking up the floppy drive solved > the installation hang. > > Hope this helps! > > Eric Giles > > NOW, the trouble comes when i try to upgrade to win98 2nd edition... > >it loads well, up to the point of the win98 setup window which sets up: > > > >Control Panel > >Programs on the Start Menu > >Windows Help > >MS-DOS program settings > >Tuning up Application Start > >System Configueration > > > >the whole thing gets stuck on the "Programs on the Start Menu" item... > > > >this has occured while trying to load win98 2nd edition fresh and over > >the preload as described above.. > > > >anyone have any thoughts on this..? > > > > > >-- > >Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) > >WEB page http://thinkpads.com > >Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > >Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > >e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > >770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > > > >Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > >vary, Done on a > >closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > > > -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 6 00:36:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA02228 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:36:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29048; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:29:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:29:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28858; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28799; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:28:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:28:52 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-76.gate.net [199.227.20.139]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA433114; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:30:49 -0400 Message-ID: <378185FB.6C6FFC78@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 00:28:43 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Chalk CC: Eric Giles , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP600E and win98SE References: <4.1.19990705222943.0092f9f0@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: richard.. looks like you were right.. now its on that little windows 98 setup window, updating system settings.. Richard Chalk wrote: > If you wait long enough, it will eventually continue, but it takes a LONG > time looking for the non-existent floppy drive. > > Richard > > At 08:53 PM 7/5/99 -0500, Eric Giles wrote: > >Bill- > > > >I am assuming that you have the CD-ROM/DVD drive in the drive bay. Do you > >happen to have the floppy drive hooked up with the external cable at the > >same time? I ran into almost the same thing when I originally upgraded my > >770ED to win98. I remembered from many desktop installs that this is at the > >point that it accesses the floppy drive. Hooking up the floppy drive solved > >the installation hang. > > > >Hope this helps! > > > >Eric Giles > > > >NOW, the trouble comes when i try to upgrade to win98 2nd edition... > >>it loads well, up to the point of the win98 setup window which sets up: > >> > >>Control Panel > >>Programs on the Start Menu > >>Windows Help > >>MS-DOS program settings > >>Tuning up Application Start > >>System Configueration > >> > >>the whole thing gets stuck on the "Programs on the Start Menu" item... > >> > >>this has occured while trying to load win98 2nd edition fresh and over > >>the preload as described above.. > >> > >>anyone have any thoughts on this..? > >> > >> > >>-- > >>Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > >> > >>** Bill Morrow ** :-) > >>WEB page http://thinkpads.com > >>Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > >>Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > >>e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > >>770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > >> > >>Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > >>vary, Done on a > >>closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > >> > >> -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 6 00:44:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA02250 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29826; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:37:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29689; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:37:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29676; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:37:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:37:21 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-76.gate.net [199.227.20.139]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA75398; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:39:19 -0400 Message-ID: <378187F9.CDAB818D@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 00:37:13 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Chalk CC: Eric Giles , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP600E and win98SE References: <4.1.19990705222943.0092f9f0@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: richard.. Eric.. looks like you were both right.. now its on that little windows 98 setup window, updating system settings.. and finally done.. and i see no differences thus far.. not sure the floppy being there or not had anything to do with it.. another interesting thing, when it came to the serial number window, the 25 character serial number was already displayed..! Richard Chalk wrote: > If you wait long enough, it will eventually continue, but it takes a LONG > time looking for the non-existent floppy drive. > > Richard > > At 08:53 PM 7/5/99 -0500, Eric Giles wrote: > >Bill- > > > >I am assuming that you have the CD-ROM/DVD drive in the drive bay. Do you > >happen to have the floppy drive hooked up with the external cable at the > >same time? I ran into almost the same thing when I originally upgraded my > >770ED to win98. I remembered from many desktop installs that this is at the > >point that it accesses the floppy drive. Hooking up the floppy drive solved > >the installation hang. > > > >Hope this helps! > > > >Eric Giles > > > >NOW, the trouble comes when i try to upgrade to win98 2nd edition... > >>it loads well, up to the point of the win98 setup window which sets up: > >> > >>Control Panel > >>Programs on the Start Menu > >>Windows Help > >>MS-DOS program settings > >>Tuning up Application Start > >>System Configueration > >> > >>the whole thing gets stuck on the "Programs on the Start Menu" item... > >> > >>this has occured while trying to load win98 2nd edition fresh and over > >>the preload as described above.. > >> > >>anyone have any thoughts on this..? > >> > >> > >>-- > >>Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > >> > >>** Bill Morrow ** :-) > >>WEB page http://thinkpads.com > >>Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > >>Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > >>e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > >>770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > >> > >>Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > >>vary, Done on a > >>closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > >> > >> -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 6 07:23:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA01664 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 07:23:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18555; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 07:17:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 07:15:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18383; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 07:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bradnet.legend.co.uk (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18368; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 07:14:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bradnet.legend.co.uk (194.164.19.39 -> bradnet.legend.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 07:14:32 -0400 Received: by bradnet.legend.co.uk (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.03/2.0) id MAA280.01; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:09:31 +0100 Message-Id: <199907061109.MAA280.01@bradnet.legend.co.uk> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 99 12:09:30 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: [TP600] videoram To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] for OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: How do I tell how much video ram there is in my TP600 (2645-4500) ? -- John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 6 10:54:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA01951 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29993; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:46:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:45:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29672; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:45:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.zbzoom.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29648; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:45:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.zbzoom.net (208.236.36.3 -> ns1.zbzoom.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:45:18 -0400 Received: from tomscomputer (lco46.zbzoom.net [208.236.39.46]) by ns1.zbzoom.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id KAA18159 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Thomas A. 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Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 6 12:37:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA03222 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08654; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:28:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08484; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:28:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08423; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (129.10.116.51 -> amber.ccs.neu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:28:43 -0400 Received: from sinai.ccs.neu.edu (dnb@sinai.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.104]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA26197; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dnb@localhost) by sinai.ccs.neu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id MAA11557; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Sender: dnb@ccs.neu.edu To: "Pat Presidente" Cc: "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: Calling Linux Gurus References: From: dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) Date: 06 Jul 1999 12:28:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: "Pat Presidente"'s message of "Mon, 5 Jul 1999 00:43:28 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/Emacs 19.34 List-Unsubscribe: "Pat Presidente" writes: > Well, I've taken the plunge and installed Redhat 6.0 on the partitioned hard > drive of my 380XD. Everything went fine until I tried getting monitor > support for Xwindows. Things just go blank. I have an external NEC > Multisync XP17 attached. That particular monitor isn't listed as a choice > so I tried the XE17. Tried a few other things as well but without success. This may be a dumb suggestion that you've already tried, but I have seen TP machines that required you to use the "switch to external monitor" key sequence (ALT-FN7) a few times for video to appear. Peace, dNb From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 6 15:53:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA01428 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:53:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21111; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:40:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20917; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:40:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20873; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:40:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (195.174.27.3 -> home.egenet.com.tr) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:40:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (turgut@localhost) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA12917 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:39:10 +0400 (EET DST) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:39:09 +0400 (EET DST) From: Turgut Kalfaoglu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: PCMCIA video teleconference kit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi there. I was wondering if there was a video teleconference/capture card in PCMCIA format for my aging TP600. I would be using it under Win and Linux and OS/2 (haven't yet decided!), so having drivers for these OS's would be a plus. Many thanks, -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu, EgeNet Internet Services http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 6 17:05:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA01575 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:05:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26727; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:54:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26388; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:54:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from samsara.csustan.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26358; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:54:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from samsara.csustan.edu (130.17.4.254 -> samsara.csustan.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:54:31 -0400 Received: (from steven@localhost) by samsara.csustan.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA08725; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:57:49 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 13:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Steven Filling Sender: steven@samsara.csustan.edu From: Steven Filling To: (David N. Blank-Edelman) Subject: Re: Calling Linux Gurus Cc: Thinkpad List-Unsubscribe: On 06-Jul-99 David N. Blank-Edelman extemporized: > "Pat Presidente" writes: >=20 >> Well, I've taken the plunge and installed Redhat 6.0 on the partitioned = hard >> drive of my 380XD. Everything went fine until I tried getting monitor >> support for Xwindows. Things just go blank. I have an external NEC >> Multisync XP17 attached. That particular monitor isn't listed as a choi= ce >> so I tried the XE17. Tried a few other things as well but without succe= ss. >=20 > This may be a dumb suggestion that you've already tried, but I have > seen TP machines that required you to use the "switch to external > monitor" key sequence (ALT-FN7) a few times for video to appear. >=20 Same here on a 560e. I've tried both XFree and AcceleratedX, and both refu= se to display anything until I've ed twice. Even stranger - if I use to return to tty1 I have to twice again to get it to display. Anyone have ideas on what has changed between 5.2 and 6.0 wrt X displaying? TIA S. ---------------------------------- Steven Filling E-Mail: steven@panopticon.csustan.edu Date: 06-Jul-99 Time: 13:54:47 ---------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 6 17:24:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA01795 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:24:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28593; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:17:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:16:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28480; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:16:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28467; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:16:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (134.102.200.16 -> bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:16:41 -0400 Received: from henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (postfix@henker.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.219.172]) by bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA01304; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 23:16:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.217.97]) by henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7105B119F; Tue, 06 Jul 1999 23:14:50 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 23:14:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Steffan Henke X-Sender: henker@henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de To: Steven Filling Cc: dnb@ccs.neu.edu, Thinkpad Subject: Re: Calling Linux Gurus In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Steven Filling wrote: > to display anything until I've ed twice. Even stranger - if I use > to return to tty1 I have to twice again to get it to > display. Anyone have ideas on what has changed between 5.2 and 6.0 wrt X > displaying? Hi, I am using the supplied SVGA X-server with RH 6.0 and have not had any problems at all - I was quite impressed ! I had anticipated more troubles setting up Linux on a Thinkpad. Even the parallel CD works without a prob. Contact me if you are looking for an XF86Config for the 560. Regards, Steffan -- ... Our continuing mission: To seek out knowledge of C, to explore strange UNIX commands, and to boldly code where no one has man page 4. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 6 18:50:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA01603 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 18:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03062; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 18:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 18:42:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02866; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 18:42:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02720; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 18:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.11 -> dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 18:38:59 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA10410; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:27:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907062227.RAA10410@dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga12-52.ix.netcom.com(207.95.118.244) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma010380; Tue Jul 6 17:27:42 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Allan Ballard" Cc: "Thinkpad" Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 18:28:24 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP760CD Upgrade tests List-Unsubscribe: Following are CPU and memory tests, comparing a p90/p120 Thinkpad 760CD. The unit has 64Mb Ram. All tests done while running DOS from a start disk. Probench.exe p90 cpu 39.25 million is the b/m p120 cpu 49.41 MIS Cachcheck p90 CACHECHK V6 12/26/96 Copyright (c) 1995-96 by Ray Van Tassle. (-h for help) CMOS reports: conv_mem= 640K, ext_mem= 64,512K, Total RAM= 65,152K "GenuineIntel" Pentium Clocked at 90.0 MHz Reading from memory. Extra tests---- Wrt 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24<-Writing This machine seems to have both L1 and L2 cache. [reading] L1 cache is 8KB -- 123.8 MB/s 8.5 ns/byte (379%) (147%) 2.9 clks L2 cache is 256KB -- 83.8 MB/s 12.5 ns/byte (257%) (100%) 4.3 clks Main memory speed -- 32.6 MB/s 32.1 ns/byte (100%) [reading] 11.0 clks Effective RAM access time (read ) is 256ns (a RAM bank is 8 bytes wide). Effective RAM access time (write) is 184ns (a RAM bank is 8 bytes wide). "GenuineIntel" Pentium Clocked at 90.0 MHz. Cache ENABLED. Options: -t0 P120 CACHECHK V6 12/26/96 Copyright (c) 1995-96 by Ray Van Tassle. (-h for help) CMOS reports: conv_mem= 640K, ext_mem= 64,512K, Total RAM= 65,152K "GenuineIntel" Pentium Clocked at 120.0 MHz Reading from memory. Extra tests---- Wrt 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24<-Writing This machine seems to have both L1 and L2 cache. [reading] L1 cache is 8KB -- 164.3 MB/s 6.4 ns/byte (466%) (163%) 2.9 clks L2 cache is 256KB -- 100.6 MB/s 10.4 ns/byte (285%) (100%) 4.8 clks Main memory speed -- 35.2 MB/s 29.8 ns/byte (100%) [reading] 13.6 clks Effective RAM access time (read ) is 238ns (a RAM bank is 8 bytes wide). Effective RAM access time (write) is 184ns (a RAM bank is 8 bytes wide). "GenuineIntel" Pentium Clocked at 120.0 MHz. Cache ENABLED. Options: -t0 P90 L1 cache is 8KB -- 123.8 MB/s 8.5 ns/byte (379%) (147%) 2.9 clks P120 L1 cache is 8KB -- 164.3 MB/s 6.4 ns/byte (466%) (163%) 2.9 clks P90 L2 cache is 256KB -- 83.8 MB/s 12.5 ns/byte (257%) (100%) 4.3 clks P120 L2 cache is 256KB -- 100.6 MB/s 10.4 ns/byte (285%) (100%) 4.8 clks P90 Main memory speed -- 32.6 MB/s 32.1 ns/byte (100%) [reading] 11.0 clks P120 Main memory speed -- 35.2 MB/s 29.8 ns/byte (100%) [reading] 13.6 clks p90 cpu 39.25 million is the b/m p120 cpu 49.41 MIS Looks like about 25% improvement across the board (not sure about RAM)/ PowerPoint (Office97) works *much* better. Allan Ballard From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 7 04:52:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA03565 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 04:52:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25132; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 04:45:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 04:44:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24953; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 04:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24932; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 04:44:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (199.175.106.4 -> mail.islandnet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 04:44:16 -0400 Received: from 139-142-112-179.islandnet.com [139.142.112.179] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m111nER-000WSMC for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 01:39:07 -0700 (PDT) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701 with Dock II Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 01:16:12 -0700 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: Lines: 37 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: I've partially solved my problem: win95a, dock ii, 701 OS hangs after reading autoexec.bat, evidently due to the SCSI controller. Solution: having turned off the SCSI BIOS, I allow Win95 to install a driver (any driver it chooses), then in safe boot, I turn off the device in Dock 2 mode. Even though I have an apparently correct driver (Adaptec AHA 152x), I cannot use SCSI. When I boot the Dock II 2100 diagnostic disk, it claims that no dock is detected (even though diskette, mouse, keyboard all work fine hanging off the dock ii). Perhaps that has to do with the 701, which requires an adaptor, which was created after the 2100 diagnostic disk. I'm down to two hypotheses: a) the SCSI is fried (which may explain why the previous owner was getting rid of it); or b) there's something on the diskette(s) which come with the 701-to-dockii adaptor (FRU 04H8353 or 42H1510). I received the dock ii with the 701 adaptor installed but no diskettes. I was not able to find a reference to drivers on the IBM website. So, the question: does anybody have the diskette (s), and could they email them to me? Incidentally, I bought a SCSI CD-ROM to go into the dock ii, but found that it was physically too long to make a proper fit. Of course, I never could test if it worked. -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 7 11:46:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA02877 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19998; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:38:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:36:11 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19674; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:36:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (128.169.92.76 -> VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:36:10 -0400 Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id LAA09116 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:36:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11351; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:23:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.14 -> dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:23:31 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA20987; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 21:22:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alb-ny3-07.ix.netcom.com(204.32.163.103) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma020971; Tue Jul 6 21:22:28 1999 Message-ID: <3782BA3E.47AE@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 22:23:58 -0400 From: Harvey Organization: What me Worry. com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NC320 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: computer for a disabled person References: <3782227A.2A6BBFB8@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > > If somebody has or knows of a computer that can be given > to a disabled person as being currently requested in the > "giving" bulletin board of ebay, please contact "ML" at > > JMLAE@webtv.net > > The person in need is located in the area of East Bay, > California. 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Shouldn't you? > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Contact IBM directly. harvey From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 7 13:07:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA03492 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:07:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26140; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:59:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25871; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:59:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.innernet.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25854; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:59:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.innernet.net (207.121.52.9) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:59:08 -0400 Received: from pii333 [205.130.16.197] by mail.innernet.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id A7292DD00F6; Wed, 07 Jul 1999 12:58:17 -0400 Message-ID: <00d201bec89b$99bae100$020aa8c0@pii333> From: "Slip" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Thinkpad 701C for sale(auction) for $300 Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:10:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Hi there, I think that this is the best way to sell something, and I'm more than willing to let it go at 300buks. It's currently at 300 and it looks to stay that way! Pick up this little gem for yourself, you're regret it if you've never owned a 701! Visa/mastercard accepted online! -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 7 13:08:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA03497 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:08:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26380; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:01:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:00:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25984; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:59:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.innernet.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25865; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:59:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.innernet.net (207.121.52.9) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:59:11 -0400 Received: from pii333 [205.130.16.197] by mail.innernet.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id A74910D00A6; Wed, 07 Jul 1999 12:58:49 -0400 Message-ID: <00d801bec89b$acc91d20$020aa8c0@pii333> From: "Slip" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Re:Thinkpad 701c for sale-URL Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:10:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Sorry, forgot the URL... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=127312116 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 7 16:59:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA02367 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:59:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04571; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:12:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04317; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:11:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04282; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:11:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (24.112.32.20 -> smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:11:46 -0400 Received: from mail.on.rogers.wave.ca ([24.112.32.4]:36200 "EHLO mail.on.rogers.wave.ca" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <512772-7979>; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:08:42 -0400 Received: from cr394328-a.rchrd1.on.wave.home.com ([24.112.93.189]:1623 "HELO actprod" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mail.on.rogers.wave.ca with SMTP id <324680-13234>; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:11:20 -0400 From: "Tom Trottier" Organization: ACT Productions Inc., 199-K1S 2P3, Ottawa To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:11:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: TP340 HD upgrade Reply-to: tom@act.ca Priority: urgent X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-Id: <19990707191127Z324680-13234+28@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I'm back again. I have a thinkpad 340 (in addition to a couple of 701s) and want to install a 540MB HD from a 701 in the 340. I've installed it physically - the pins & size all match, but the 340 hangs up. Do I need a BIOS upgrade, or is this an impossible thing, or... TIA, Tom ------------------ From: Tom Trottier, President, ACT Productions Inc. infoanim@act.ca http://www.act.ca +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 2P3 "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 7 17:28:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA02900 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14987; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:28:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:26:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14820; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:26:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14807; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:26:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:26:49 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-31.gate.net [207.36.212.31]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA249938; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:28:43 -0400 Message-ID: <3783C60C.62CAB914@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 17:26:36 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tom@act.ca CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP340 HD upgrade References: <19990707191127Z324680-13234+28@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Tom.. most likely bios related.. get the latest bios (if they even still list it) and try again.. that 340 is quite old and a 540meg drive was unheard of at that time.. Tom Trottier wrote: > Hi, I'm back again. > I have a thinkpad 340 (in addition to a couple of 701s) and want to > install a 540MB HD from a 701 in the 340. > > I've installed it physically - the pins & size all match, but the 340 > hangs up. > > Do I need a BIOS upgrade, or is this an impossible thing, or... > > TIA, Tom > ------------------ > From: Tom Trottier, President, ACT Productions Inc. > infoanim@act.ca http://www.act.ca > +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 > 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 2P3 > "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 7 18:48:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA03664 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:48:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19461; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:46:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19327; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:46:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.netlinq.nl (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19304; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:46:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.netlinq.nl (195.109.135.151 -> www.netlinq.nl) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:46:35 -0400 Received: from netlinq.nl (adsl-145-99-66-109.snelnet.nl [145.99.66.109]) by www.netlinq.nl (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA07200; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 00:29:28 +0200 Message-ID: <3783D8E9.DBCFF006@netlinq.nl> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 00:47:05 +0200 From: Jeroen Elfferich Reply-To: jeroen@netlinq.nl Organization: http://www.netlinq.nl/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Slip CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: Is this a real 770? References: <002401bec4d6$7bd2a380$020aa8c0@pii333> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi Jamie, You're right to be skeptical about this seller. Besides the fact that the 770Z and X model come with up to 8 MB of video RAM (not 12 indeed), the 14.1" version comes with only 4 MB (the 13.7" is the only with 8 MB). Since it's a 366 Mhz machine, it should be a 770Z, which is the only one running at that speed. But they come with 14.1 GB harddisks only; the 9.1 GB is odd too, as far as I know no 770 ever came equipped with this kind of harddisk (4 GB, 5.1 GB, 8 GB and 14.1 GB are common). The new 770's have RAM that is expandable to 320 megabytes as well instead of the 288 mentioned below. And audio will be 16 bit external, internal might be better (64 bit). And be ware: the car adapter might be super slim and light weight, the 770 is big and bulky (but an excellent desktop replacement). If it is an actual 770, it's an odd mix of 770ED, 770Z and non- 770-native components. All in all, I wouldn't trust this guy much. Good luck, Jeroen Slip wrote: > > I'v been looking at the 770 as my next system and I found this ad on the > internet. The seller seems flaky, so I just want to be sure that this > machine/model actually exists. If so, can someone tell me the model/type? It > is brand spankin' new in the box. What is the 12Mb SGRAM? If this is video > ram, I thought that the max VRAM that the 770 had was 8mb...And how can the > sound card be 64 bit if it's on an ISA bus? > > Thanks a lot! > -Jamie > > IBM ThinkPad 770 Series--Pentium II 366MHz MMX 14.1 Active Matrix Display > (1024 x 768) 128Mb of Ram expandable to 288Mb 9.1 gig hd 56k MODEM DVD CD > ROM Dual Battery Support 12MB SGRAM 64 Bit Sound w/voice recognition w/ Car > Adapter Super Light Weight, Super Slim (New Design) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 7 23:22:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA05901 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 23:22:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00189; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 23:22:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 23:21:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29883; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 23:21:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.zbzoom.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29833; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 23:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.zbzoom.net (208.236.36.3 -> ns1.zbzoom.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 23:20:54 -0400 Received: from oemcomputer (99.tcg3.tcg.dialup.nauticom.net [209.195.138.99]) by ns1.zbzoom.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id XAA04959 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 23:20:20 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Thomas A. Jones" To: Subject: Hot Swapping Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 23:19:26 -0400 Message-ID: <000101bec8f0$ce917ce0$0100007f@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Is it possible to hot swap the Dvd Drive on a 770Z? Thanks for any answers.... Tom Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 09:00:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA01377 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:00:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26100; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:00:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:58:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25855; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.kaste.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25832; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.kaste.com (208.28.184.91 -> kaste.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:58:09 -0400 Received: from dave.kaste.com ([192.168.0.4]) by www.kaste.com; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:13:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00fe01bec942$836dfac0$0400a8c0@dave.kaste.com> Reply-To: "Dave Howery" From: "Dave Howery" To: Cc: "David Howery" Subject: Software Battery Conditioner For TP 701's Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:05:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Recently someone on the list mentioned a software based battery conditioner for the TP 701. I have never read of this before; can someone offer a pointer where this program may be downloaded? -- Dave Howery - Marketing Manager Phone - 860 242-0113 Kaste Industrial Machine Sales, Inc. FAX - 860 286-0177 8 Southwood Road - Bloomfield, CT 06002 eMail - dave@kaste.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 10:45:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA02343 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:45:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02198; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:44:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:43:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01964; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.computer.org (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01920; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:42:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.computer.org (146.229.5.248) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:42:44 -0400 Received: (from hskim@localhost) by mail.computer.org (8.8.7H1/8.8.7) id JAA04582 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:46:15 -0500 From: Hyong-Shik Kim Message-Id: <199907081446.JAA04582@[146.229.5.248]> Subject: Warranty service? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:46:15 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: hskim@computer.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21-h4] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Could it be possible for me to ask your experience on warranty service? I bought a TP770 six weeks ago, but it turned out a defective one, so I immediately contacted IBM EasyServ Repair Center (even though I do not think it is "easy".). So far I repeated sending it there and getting it back as many as five times. Here is the history: - first: they replaced the DC/DC card - second: they replaced both DC/DC card and CPU card - third: they replaced both CPU card and system board - fourth: they replaced both CPU card and system board - fifth: they replaced the CPU card As you may see, they replaced the system board twice, CPU card four times, and DC/DC card twice. But it is still not working. The TP770 even does not go through the advanced test that is available through Easy Setup menu. I mean the advanced test, not the basic test. It fails just after it begins the test on address bus after completing memory refresh test. The test does not take more than 30 minutes, but I do not understand why they did not do that before returning it to me. When I've got my machine back after the fifth time, I just tested it, but it failed. Do you have any idea of solving this problem? I have already spent lots of time and effort with this matter. The IBM people told me that it is their policy not to allow the replacement of whole system. Is that right? It WAS a brand-new one, but it looks like a used one now since it has had to go to the service center five times. How terrible! Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Hyong-Shik Kim From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 12:08:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA01922 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:08:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07299; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:04:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06996; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilot004.cl.msu.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06983; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:03:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilot004.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.104 -> pilot004.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:03:55 -0400 Received: from andres (pm527-28.dialip.mich.net [35.9.48.80]) by pilot004.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA15980 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:03:48 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990708120356.008fb2d0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 12:03:56 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Warranty service? In-Reply-To: <199907081446.JAA04582@[146.229.5.248]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: You've been amazingly patient, I think. My suggestion would be to call IBM and *DEMAND* a new unit. As soon as they say no, *INSIST* on talking to the next higher up person in charge, and be a completely persistent about this and not take any more "no"s as an answer. It is entirely understandable that for whatever reason, IBM made a dud 770. That happens. But for them to have gone through five cycles of not repairing it is a major blunder, and they need to know about that. I normally always argue for reasoned dialog with people/companies, but this has gone on far too long. If you don't get satisfaction on this you should tell of this on the comp.sys.laptop group such that others know of this. Given how many things they've replaced, I wonder if your unit wasn't simply built using a faulty case, creating "pressure shorts", ie components which have been stressed/moved about. I've seen this in radios, and the laptops of today have things crammed in them to the extent that things must fit just about perfectly, or strange things can happen. Please let the list know what happens with this. --STeve Andre' andres@pilot.msu.edu At 09:46 AM 7/8/99 -0500, Hyong-Shik Kim wrote: > >Could it be possible for me to ask your experience on warranty service? >I bought a TP770 six weeks ago, but it turned out a defective one, so >I immediately contacted IBM EasyServ Repair Center (even though I do not >think it is "easy".). So far I repeated sending it there and getting it back >as many as five times. Here is the history: > > - first: they replaced the DC/DC card > - second: they replaced both DC/DC card and CPU card > - third: they replaced both CPU card and system board > - fourth: they replaced both CPU card and system board > - fifth: they replaced the CPU card > >As you may see, they replaced the system board twice, CPU card four times, >and DC/DC card twice. But it is still not working. The TP770 even does >not go through the advanced test that is available through Easy Setup menu. >I mean the advanced test, not the basic test. It fails just after it begins >the test on address bus after completing memory refresh test. The test >does not take more than 30 minutes, but I do not understand why they did not >do that before returning it to me. When I've got my machine back after >the fifth time, I just tested it, but it failed. > >Do you have any idea of solving this problem? I have already spent lots of >time and effort with this matter. The IBM people told me that it is their >policy not to allow the replacement of whole system. Is that right? >It WAS a brand-new one, but it looks like a used one now since it has had >to go to the service center five times. How terrible! > >Any comments would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, >Hyong-Shik Kim From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 13:09:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA03428 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:09:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11894; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:07:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:05:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11515; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11502; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:04:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (209.228.14.77 -> c004-h006.c004.sfo.cp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:04:50 -0400 Received: (cpmta 13015 invoked from network); 8 Jul 1999 10:04:43 -0700 Received: from thinkpad600.brightware.com (HELO THINKPAD600) (206.156.118.251) by smtp.detayls.com with SMTP; 8 Jul 1999 10:04:43 -0700 X-Sent: 8 Jul 1999 17:04:43 GMT Message-ID: <000f01bec964$09ce7330$fb769cce@THINKPAD600> From: "David W. Taylor" To: Cc: "ThinkPad List" References: <199907081446.JAA04582@[146.229.5.248]> Subject: Re: Warranty service? Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:05:02 -0700 Organization: Detayls MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: There is one important question to ask. Did you buy the unit new or was it a used unit that was known to be dead? David ----- Original Message ----- From: Hyong-Shik Kim To: Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 7:46 AM Subject: Warranty service? > > Could it be possible for me to ask your experience on warranty service? > I bought a TP770 six weeks ago, but it turned out a defective one, so > I immediately contacted IBM EasyServ Repair Center (even though I do not > think it is "easy".). So far I repeated sending it there and getting it back > as many as five times. Here is the history: > > - first: they replaced the DC/DC card > - second: they replaced both DC/DC card and CPU card > - third: they replaced both CPU card and system board > - fourth: they replaced both CPU card and system board > - fifth: they replaced the CPU card > > As you may see, they replaced the system board twice, CPU card four times, > and DC/DC card twice. But it is still not working. The TP770 even does > not go through the advanced test that is available through Easy Setup menu. > I mean the advanced test, not the basic test. It fails just after it begins > the test on address bus after completing memory refresh test. The test > does not take more than 30 minutes, but I do not understand why they did not > do that before returning it to me. When I've got my machine back after > the fifth time, I just tested it, but it failed. > > Do you have any idea of solving this problem? I have already spent lots of > time and effort with this matter. The IBM people told me that it is their > policy not to allow the replacement of whole system. Is that right? > It WAS a brand-new one, but it looks like a used one now since it has had > to go to the service center five times. How terrible! > > Any comments would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Hyong-Shik Kim > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 13:13:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA03488 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12620; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:13:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:11:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12381; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:11:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.computer.org (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12279; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.computer.org (146.229.5.248) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:11:36 -0400 Received: (from hskim@localhost) by mail.computer.org (8.8.7H1/8.8.7) id MAA05214; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:14:49 -0500 From: Hyong-Shik Kim Message-Id: <199907081714.MAA05214@[146.229.5.248]> Subject: Re: Warranty service? To: davidt@detayls.com (David W. Taylor) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:14:47 -0500 (CDT) Cc: hskim@computer.org, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <000f01bec964$09ce7330$fb769cce@THINKPAD600> from "David W. Taylor" at Jul 8, 99 10:05:02 am Reply-To: hskim@computer.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21-h4] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I bought a TP770 as a BRAND-NEW one, and I found it was defective just at the second day. When I tried to return it to the shop (pczone.com), they insisted they could not accept any return for IBM laptop computers. It was about six weeks ago. Can I contact them for possible return? Thanks. Hyong-Shik Kim According to David W. Taylor: > > There is one important question to ask. > > Did you buy the unit new or was it a used unit that was known to be dead? > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hyong-Shik Kim > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 7:46 AM > Subject: Warranty service? > > > > > > Could it be possible for me to ask your experience on warranty service? > > I bought a TP770 six weeks ago, but it turned out a defective one, so > > I immediately contacted IBM EasyServ Repair Center (even though I do not > > think it is "easy".). So far I repeated sending it there and getting it > back > > as many as five times. Here is the history: > > > > - first: they replaced the DC/DC card > > - second: they replaced both DC/DC card and CPU card > > - third: they replaced both CPU card and system board > > - fourth: they replaced both CPU card and system board > > - fifth: they replaced the CPU card > > > > As you may see, they replaced the system board twice, CPU card four times, > > and DC/DC card twice. But it is still not working. The TP770 even does > > not go through the advanced test that is available through Easy Setup > menu. > > I mean the advanced test, not the basic test. It fails just after it > begins > > the test on address bus after completing memory refresh test. The test > > does not take more than 30 minutes, but I do not understand why they did > not > > do that before returning it to me. When I've got my machine back after > > the fifth time, I just tested it, but it failed. > > > > Do you have any idea of solving this problem? I have already spent lots > of > > time and effort with this matter. The IBM people told me that it is their > > policy not to allow the replacement of whole system. Is that right? > > It WAS a brand-new one, but it looks like a used one now since it has had > > to go to the service center five times. How terrible! > > > > Any comments would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Hyong-Shik Kim > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 13:24:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA03673 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:24:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13758; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:21:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:19:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13477; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.zbzoom.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13421; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:19:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.zbzoom.net (208.236.36.3 -> ns1.zbzoom.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:19:22 -0400 Received: from tomscomputer (lco32.zbzoom.net [208.236.39.32]) by ns1.zbzoom.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id NAA21603 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:18:43 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Thomas A. Jones" To: Subject: FS ThinkPad 600E PII 6.4GB HD 366MHZ 192MB Ram Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:18:42 -0400 Message-ID: <000201bec965$ee10a260$2027ecd0@zbzoom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01BEC944.66FF0260" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01BEC944.66FF0260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id NAA13758 For Sale IBM ThinkPad 600E - 2645-4AU Pentium II - 366 Mhz Additionally 1. 128MB Memory Module bringing total memory to 192 MB 2. 6.4 GB Hardrive 3. VST Zip Drive 4. 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General
Part Number 26454AU
Description TP600E 366 256 64/6.4 13.3''
Price* $3,587.53
Architecture
Form factor Notebook
Bus type/architecture PCI=20
PCMCIA support 2=20 Type II or 1 Type III Card Bus (Zoomed Video support) =
Expansion bus type PCI=20
UltraBay Yes=20 (UltraslimBay)
Display
Screen type 1024x768
Screen type description TFT -=20 active matrix
Viewable image size (diagonal) 13.3=20 inches
Contrast ratio 100:1=20
Screen illumination Backlit
Max resolution on built-in screen 1024x768 16777216 colors
Max colors or grey shades 16777216
External display supported Yes=20
Max resolution on external display 1024x768 16777216 colors
Simultaneous external display Yes=20
Processor
Processor (CPU) Mobile Pentium II
Processor internal clock speed1 366=20 MHz
Planar clock speed 66=20 MHz
Upgradable processor No=20
Processor manufacturer Intel=20
Math co-processor Built-in
L1 internal CPU cache 64=20 KB
Processor upgrade options --=20
L2 cache std 256KB=20
L2 cache max 256KB=20
L2 external CPU cache type --=20
BIOS type Flash=20 ROM
Memory
Memory (RAM) std 64=20 MB
Memory (RAM) max3 288=20 MB
RAM speed 60ns=20 ns
Optional RAM configuration 144-pin SO-DIMMs
RAM type SDRAM=20
RAM slots total 2=20 DIMM
RAM slots available 1=20 DIMM
Hard = disk
Hard disk size2 6.4=20 GB
Hard disk average seek time 13=20 ms
Hard disk controller EIDE=20
Hard disk type ATA-3=20
Graphics = subsystem
Graphics type 1280x1024
Graphics chipset NeoMagic MagicMedia 256AV
Graphics data width 32=20
Video RAM type SGRAM=20
Video RAM std 2.5=20 MB
Video RAM max 2.5=20 MB
Max resolution (with std video = RAM) 1024x768 16777216 colors
Max resolution (with max video = RAM) 1280x1024 16777216 colors
Max colors (with max video RAM) 16777216
Max colors (with std video RAM) 16777216
Graphics bus interface AGP=20
Multimedia
CD-ROM speed4 24Xmax-10Xmin
CD-ROM interface type IDE=20
CD-ROM transport type --=20
Multimedia features Audio=20 in/out connectors (rear), Microphone (integrated), Sound = Blaster=20 Audio support, Speakers(stereo)/headphone jack, SRS 3D sound =
Audio
Audio data width --=20
Speaker power rating .5=20 W
Communications
Fax/modem Integrated
Fax/modem speeds5 56K=20 KBps
Network card Optional
Communications features DMI=20 v1.1 compliant, DMI v2.0 ready, LANClient Control Manger, = Infrared=20 port (IRDA compatible), Wake on LAN support (via optional=20 SelectaBase PC Card Enabler with EtherJet function or = SelectaDock=20 III)
Infra-red port speed 4Mbps=20
Software
Operating system provided Microsoft Windows 98
Preloaded applications Yes=20
Standard = features
Pointing device type TrackPoint (with "Press-to-Select"/scroll = select/magnifying=20 glass)
Standard diskette size 3.5"=20 1.44 MB
Optional diskette size --=20 MB
Diskette drive configuration Internal or external
Keyboard type standard Full=20 size 85 key (tilt/palm rest space)
Numeric keypad Integrated
Power = management
Heat emissions 56=20 W
Sound emissions 40=20 dB
Power management features8 Battery Power Status Display, Hibernation mode, = Power=20 management mode, Sound Volume, Standby mode, Switching = between=20 display devices, Suspend mode, Suspend/Resume =
Battery life - min/max6 3.0=20 hrs hrs ( with 1 b
Battery type(s) Lithium-Ion
Charge time - on 3=20 hrs
Charge time - off 2.5=20 hrs
Dimensions
Weight7 5.6=20 lbs
Height 1.4=20 inches
Width 11.8=20 inches
Depth 9.4=20 inches
Travel weight 4.9=20 lbs
Security
VPD support --=20
Warranty
Limited Warranty period Three=20 year (system battery: one year)
Type of Service Customer Carry-in Repair or ThinkPad EasyServ =
Expansion = options
Plug and Play support Yes=20 (PCMCIA)
Serial ports (type) 1=20 (USB)
Expansion ports AC=20 adapter jack, Display, Expansion bus (for dock or port = replicator),=20 Infrared, Keyboard/mouse common port, Microphone in,=20 Speaker/headphone (stereo)
Expansion unit port Yes=20
Accessories
A/C adapter 56=20 watt
Worldwide A/C compatibility Yes=20
Carrying case Optional
Port replicator Optional
Docking station Optional

*=20 "Average Reseller Price" is the mean average of prices = provided to=20 IBM by participating IBM Authorized Resellers. Resellers set = their=20 own prices and the actual prices available from these = resellers will=20 vary.
Important Product = and Legal=20 Information =
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------=_NextPart_000_0003_01BEC944.66FF0260-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 14:45:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04690 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:45:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19706; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:45:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:44:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19526; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19501; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:43:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (132.230.150.1 -> avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:43:41 -0400 Received: from asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.167.101]) by avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA09038 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:43:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from utcke@localhost) by asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) id UAA17597 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:43:19 +0200 (MDT) Message-Id: <199907081843.UAA17597@asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Looking for 701-owner in or by Germany To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:43:19 +0200 (MDT) From: sven.utcke@gmx.de (Sven Utcke) Reply-to: sven.utcke@gmx.de (Sven Utcke) Phone: +49-(0)761-203-8274 Fax: +49-(0)761-203-8262 Address: Albert-Ludwigs-Universitaet Freiburg, Institut fuer Informatik Address: Lehrstuhl fuer Mustererkennung und Bildverarbeitung X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I'm desperately looking for someone who would allow me to try his 701 battery in my laptop or alternatively try mine in his. Reason: I know that either the little chip inside the battery or its opposite number inside the computer is broken, but don't know which, and IBM would charge US$ 100,-- to tell me... Of course all this is only reasonable if the battery could be send by mail, and at low cost, so I suppose I'm looking for an 701-owner in Germany or nearby. Anybody who could help me --- or knows someone who could? Thanks Sven -- _ _ _____ Artificial Intelligence Unit | | | |/ /_ _| University of Hamburg | |__| ' < | | phone: +49 (0)40 42883-2576 Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30 |____|_|\_\___| fax : +49 (0)40 42883-2572 D-22527 Hamburg mailto:utcke@informatik.uni-freiburg.de www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~utcke From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 14:49:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA04741 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:49:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20241; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:48:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:47:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19942; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19873; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:46:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (209.228.14.76 -> c004-h005.c004.sfo.cp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:46:53 -0400 Received: (cpmta 16864 invoked from network); 8 Jul 1999 11:46:47 -0700 Received: from thinkpad600.brightware.com (HELO THINKPAD600) (206.156.118.251) by smtp.detayls.com with SMTP; 8 Jul 1999 11:46:47 -0700 X-Sent: 8 Jul 1999 18:46:47 GMT Message-ID: <003501bec972$4c6f2640$fb769cce@THINKPAD600> From: "David W. Taylor" To: Cc: References: <199907081714.MAA05214@[146.229.5.248]> Subject: Re: Warranty service? Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 11:47:09 -0700 Organization: Detayls MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: In this case, I would press IBM support ***VERY*** hard to get you a new unit. PcZone and most other vendors will replace obviously broken items as a result of shipping problems. This is an IBM problem though. David ----- Original Message ----- From: Hyong-Shik Kim To: David W. Taylor Cc: ; Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 10:14 AM Subject: Re: Warranty service? > > I bought a TP770 as a BRAND-NEW one, and I found it was defective just > at the second day. When I tried to return it to the shop (pczone.com), > they insisted they could not accept any return for IBM laptop computers. > It was about six weeks ago. Can I contact them for possible return? > Thanks. > > Hyong-Shik Kim > > According to David W. Taylor: > > > > There is one important question to ask. > > > > Did you buy the unit new or was it a used unit that was known to be dead? > > > > David > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Hyong-Shik Kim > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 7:46 AM > > Subject: Warranty service? > > > > > > > > > > Could it be possible for me to ask your experience on warranty service? > > > I bought a TP770 six weeks ago, but it turned out a defective one, so > > > I immediately contacted IBM EasyServ Repair Center (even though I do not > > > think it is "easy".). So far I repeated sending it there and getting it > > back > > > as many as five times. Here is the history: > > > > > > - first: they replaced the DC/DC card > > > - second: they replaced both DC/DC card and CPU card > > > - third: they replaced both CPU card and system board > > > - fourth: they replaced both CPU card and system board > > > - fifth: they replaced the CPU card > > > > > > As you may see, they replaced the system board twice, CPU card four times, > > > and DC/DC card twice. But it is still not working. The TP770 even does > > > not go through the advanced test that is available through Easy Setup > > menu. > > > I mean the advanced test, not the basic test. It fails just after it > > begins > > > the test on address bus after completing memory refresh test. The test > > > does not take more than 30 minutes, but I do not understand why they did > > not > > > do that before returning it to me. When I've got my machine back after > > > the fifth time, I just tested it, but it failed. > > > > > > Do you have any idea of solving this problem? I have already spent lots > > of > > > time and effort with this matter. The IBM people told me that it is their > > > policy not to allow the replacement of whole system. Is that right? > > > It WAS a brand-new one, but it looks like a used one now since it has had > > > to go to the service center five times. How terrible! > > > > > > Any comments would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Hyong-Shik Kim > > > > > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 15:28:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA05262 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:28:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23906; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:21:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23683; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:21:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23644; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:21:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (24.112.32.20 -> smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:21:31 -0400 Received: from mail.on.rogers.wave.ca ([24.112.32.4]:37671 "EHLO mail.on.rogers.wave.ca" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <512793-8891>; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:18:18 -0400 Received: from cr394328-a.rchrd1.on.wave.home.com ([24.112.93.189]:1513 "HELO actprod" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mail.on.rogers.wave.ca with SMTP id <324675-28765>; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:21:13 -0400 From: "Tom Trottier" Organization: ACT Productions Inc., 199-K1S 2P3, Ottawa To: Bill Morrow , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:21:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: TP340 HD upgrade Reply-to: tom@act.ca CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3783C60C.62CAB914@icanect.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-Id: <19990708192122Z324675-28765+28@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> List-Unsubscribe: Update: I downloaded the latest system BIOS for the 340 (It said 340CSE, the colour model...) & tried to install it. The messages said that it failed - "System Program File not found" After repeating downloads & diskette creations (you have to boot with the BIOS updating diskette), it still acted the same way. Well, I tried the HD anyway, and... it worked. FDISK & Format worked & I have a 512MB C drive and a rump 3MB recovery drive (I did this to keep the cluster size down.) I don't know if I prefer error messages that are in error, or error messages which are accurate.... Now if I can get the ZIP drive to work on it, I can reload the s/w. Tom (re:Re: TP340 HD upgrade) On 7 Jul 99, at 17:26, Bill Morrow wrote: > Tom.. > most likely bios related.. > get the latest bios (if they even still list it) and try again.. > that 340 is quite old and a 540meg drive was unheard of at that time.. > > Tom Trottier wrote: > > > Hi, I'm back again. > > I have a thinkpad 340 (in addition to a couple of 701s) and want to > > install a 540MB HD from a 701 in the 340. > > > > I've installed it physically - the pins & size all match, but the 340 > > hangs up. > > > > Do I need a BIOS upgrade, or is this an impossible thing, or... > > > > TIA, Tom ... > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this > at home.. > > ------------------ From: Tom Trottier, President, ACT Productions Inc. infoanim@act.ca http://www.act.ca +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 2P3 "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 16:16:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05734 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:16:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27113; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:15:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:14:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26854; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:14:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26839; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:13:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.13 -> dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:13:50 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA24829 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:13:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907082013.PAA24829@dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga5-11.ix.netcom.com(207.222.235.11) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma024531; Thu Jul 8 15:12:20 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 16:13:04 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <199907081446.JAA04582@[146.229.5.248]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Warranty service? List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:46:15 -0500 (CDT), Hyong-Shik Kim wrote: > The IBM people told me that it is their >policy not to allow the replacement of whole system. Is that right? Not unless it is a new policy. My TP760CD was replaced after an EZ Serve nightmare comparable to yours. I would raise pure hell and ask for a refund or a new unit. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 16:23:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA05803 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:23:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27767; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:23:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:22:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27570; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:22:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27333; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:17:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.13 -> dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:17:36 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA25425 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:17:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907082017.PAA25425@dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga5-11.ix.netcom.com(207.222.235.11) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma025409; Thu Jul 8 15:17:12 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 16:17:55 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <19990708192122Z324675-28765+28@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP340 HD upgrade List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:21:12 -0400, Tom Trottier wrote: >I have a 512MB C drive and a rump 3MB recovery drive I am guessing you are running 'dose95? How did you create the 3MB recovery drive? I added such a maintenance partition to my OS/2 pc, but am more than a little uncertain about creating a maintenance partiton on '95. Thanks. Allan Ballard From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 17:08:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA06258 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:08:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00176; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:07:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:06:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29844; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:06:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29810; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:06:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (204.181.57.105 -> p57105.syspac.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:06:07 -0400 Received: by pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m112LKL-00012oC; Thu, 8 Jul 99 14:03 MST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Jul 99 14:03 MST From: jones@pyrrhusoft.com (David Jones) To: dave@kaste.com CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, dhowery@ibm.net Subject: Re: Software Battery Conditioner For TP 701's List-Unsubscribe: You probably already got the pointer but if not, here it is again. http://www.innernet.net/jlk/uploads/701reset.txt The actual executable is in the same directory "./701reset.zip". I have not used it but some people swear by it. David Jones ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ... Recently someone on the list mentioned a software based battery conditioner for the TP 701. I have never read of this before; can someone offer a pointer where this program may be downloaded? -- Dave Howery - Marketing Manager Phone - 860 242-0113 Kaste Industrial Machine Sales, Inc. FAX - 860 286-0177 8 Southwood Road - Bloomfield, CT 06002 eMail - dave@kaste.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 17:45:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA06809 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:45:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02856; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:45:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:43:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02624; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:43:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out5.ibm.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02604; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out5.ibm.net (165.87.194.243 -> out5.ibm.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:43:52 -0400 Received: from oscar (slip-32-100-230-254.co.us.ibm.net [32.100.230.254]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA86750; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:43:45 GMT Message-ID: <003a01bec98a$fe51dc00$fee66420@oscar> Reply-To: "Tom Franklin" From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Tom Rockwell" , , "John Callahan" References: <3.0.5.32.19990702145012.01507a40@pop.goamerica.net> Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:43:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: I was able to order one of these batteries, but the rebate form on the microwarehouse site doesn't seem to include the battery. I should be thankful to get it for $50, but $25 sounds better. Anyone want to send me the rebate form? ----- Original Message ----- From: John Callahan To: Tom Rockwell ; Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 3:50 PM Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices > I have ordered and received the battery for the ThinkPad 560 from > Microwarhouse. > > The Item Number shown on the document I received with the shipment is > > AA1520 > > Good luck. > > John Callahan > > At 04:00 PM 7/2/99 -0400, Tom Rockwell wrote: > >I called warehouse and the order taker wanted the part numbers from > the > >flyer (different from the regular ones on the web site) in order to > give > >the special prices. Does somebody have the part numbers for the 560 > >battery and the 56w power adapter? I'd appreciate it if someone > sent > >these to me. > > > >Thanks, > >Tom Rockwell > > > > > > > >>John, > > > >>Thanks very much for the notice about the great deal. I called > Micro > >>Warehouse and ordered them that way and got 2 $24.95 batteries. > >>Unfortunately, I ordered a $99.95 from PC Zone a week ago, but who > can > >>really complain about 3 batteries for $150? > > > >>How can I get on that mailer? > > > >>Matthew > >> > > >> > > >> > Got some interesting mail from Micro Warehouse today on IBM > Thinkpad > >> > accessories. ALl are prices after a $25 rebate > >> > > >> > TP 560 batteries $24.95!!!!! > >> > 56w AC Adapter for thinkpad 600 $19.95 > >> > Internal 100MB Zip Drive $49.95 > >> > > >> > Those seem to be the biggest bargains, but there are some other > >> > specials. > >> > > >> > Follow these procedures. > >> > > >> > warehouse.com/ibmopmail > >> > or 800-551-9577 > >> > Source code P95x20 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > >> > John M. Higgins > >> > Broadcasting & Cable Magazine > >> > higgins@dorsai.org > >> > v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 > >> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > > > ----- > John Callahan, Editor Information Technology Research > Enterprise Automation Report 2608 Second Avenue Suite 240 > Member: Computer Press Association Seattle, WA 98121 USA > Phone: (206) 282-7050 Web: http://www.itr.com > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 18:04:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA07009 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 18:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04005; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 18:03:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 18:02:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03847; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 18:02:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out5.ibm.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03834; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 18:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out5.ibm.net (165.87.194.243 -> out5.ibm.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 18:02:12 -0400 Received: from oscar (slip-32-100-230-254.co.us.ibm.net [32.100.230.254]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA49646; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:02:01 GMT Message-ID: <000901bec98d$8bdf6e00$fee66420@oscar> Reply-To: "Tom Franklin" From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Tom Franklin" , "Tom Rockwell" , , "John Callahan" References: <3.0.5.32.19990702145012.01507a40@pop.goamerica.net> <003a01bec98a$fe51dc00$fee66420@oscar> Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:02:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Excuse my thickheadedness. It was on their web site (off to the side). The direct link for any others as dense as me is: http://www.warehouse.com/ibmopmail/rebate/ibmop.pdf ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Franklin To: Tom Rockwell ; ; John Callahan Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 3:43 PM Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices > I was able to order one of these batteries, but the rebate form on the > microwarehouse site doesn't seem to include the battery. I should be > thankful to get it for $50, but $25 sounds better. > > Anyone want to send me the rebate form? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Callahan > To: Tom Rockwell ; > Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 3:50 PM > Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices > > > > I have ordered and received the battery for the ThinkPad 560 from > > Microwarhouse. > > > > The Item Number shown on the document I received with the shipment is > > > > AA1520 > > > > Good luck. > > > > John Callahan > > > > At 04:00 PM 7/2/99 -0400, Tom Rockwell wrote: > > >I called warehouse and the order taker wanted the part numbers from > > the > > >flyer (different from the regular ones on the web site) in order to > > give > > >the special prices. Does somebody have the part numbers for the 560 > > >battery and the 56w power adapter? I'd appreciate it if someone > > sent > > >these to me. > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Tom Rockwell > > > > > > > > > > > >>John, > > > > > >>Thanks very much for the notice about the great deal. I called > > Micro > > >>Warehouse and ordered them that way and got 2 $24.95 batteries. > > >>Unfortunately, I ordered a $99.95 from PC Zone a week ago, but who > > can > > >>really complain about 3 batteries for $150? > > > > > >>How can I get on that mailer? > > > > > >>Matthew > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Got some interesting mail from Micro Warehouse today on IBM > > Thinkpad > > >> > accessories. ALl are prices after a $25 rebate > > >> > > > >> > TP 560 batteries $24.95!!!!! > > >> > 56w AC Adapter for thinkpad 600 $19.95 > > >> > Internal 100MB Zip Drive $49.95 > > >> > > > >> > Those seem to be the biggest bargains, but there are some other > > >> > specials. > > >> > > > >> > Follow these procedures. > > >> > > > >> > warehouse.com/ibmopmail > > >> > or 800-551-9577 > > >> > Source code P95x20 > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > >> > John M. Higgins > > >> > Broadcasting & Cable Magazine > > >> > higgins@dorsai.org > > >> > v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 > > >> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > John Callahan, Editor Information Technology Research > > Enterprise Automation Report 2608 Second Avenue Suite 240 > > Member: Computer Press Association Seattle, WA 98121 USA > > Phone: (206) 282-7050 Web: http://www.itr.com > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 19:16:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA07449 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:16:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07179; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:15:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07025; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:15:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07011; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:15:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:15:14 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-335.gate.net [199.227.173.81]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA435710; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:16:52 -0400 Message-ID: <378530E2.DC126F09@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 19:14:42 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Franklin CC: Tom Rockwell , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, John Callahan Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices References: <3.0.5.32.19990702145012.01507a40@pop.goamerica.net> <003a01bec98a$fe51dc00$fee66420@oscar> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: the rebate form is available on the IBM website.. http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/offers/cashback_form_1999b.html Tom Franklin wrote: > I was able to order one of these batteries, but the rebate form on the > microwarehouse site doesn't seem to include the battery. I should be > thankful to get it for $50, but $25 sounds better. > > Anyone want to send me the rebate form? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Callahan > To: Tom Rockwell ; > Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 3:50 PM > Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices > > > I have ordered and received the battery for the ThinkPad 560 from > > Microwarhouse. > > > > The Item Number shown on the document I received with the shipment is > > > > AA1520 > > > > Good luck. > > > > John Callahan > > > > At 04:00 PM 7/2/99 -0400, Tom Rockwell wrote: > > >I called warehouse and the order taker wanted the part numbers from > > the > > >flyer (different from the regular ones on the web site) in order to > > give > > >the special prices. Does somebody have the part numbers for the 560 > > >battery and the 56w power adapter? I'd appreciate it if someone > > sent > > >these to me. > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Tom Rockwell > > > > > > > > > > > >>John, > > > > > >>Thanks very much for the notice about the great deal. I called > > Micro > > >>Warehouse and ordered them that way and got 2 $24.95 batteries. > > >>Unfortunately, I ordered a $99.95 from PC Zone a week ago, but who > > can > > >>really complain about 3 batteries for $150? > > > > > >>How can I get on that mailer? > > > > > >>Matthew > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Got some interesting mail from Micro Warehouse today on IBM > > Thinkpad > > >> > accessories. ALl are prices after a $25 rebate > > >> > > > >> > TP 560 batteries $24.95!!!!! > > >> > 56w AC Adapter for thinkpad 600 $19.95 > > >> > Internal 100MB Zip Drive $49.95 > > >> > > > >> > Those seem to be the biggest bargains, but there are some other > > >> > specials. > > >> > > > >> > Follow these procedures. > > >> > > > >> > warehouse.com/ibmopmail > > >> > or 800-551-9577 > > >> > Source code P95x20 > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > >> > John M. Higgins > > >> > Broadcasting & Cable Magazine > > >> > higgins@dorsai.org > > >> > v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 > > >> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > John Callahan, Editor Information Technology Research > > Enterprise Automation Report 2608 Second Avenue Suite 240 > > Member: Computer Press Association Seattle, WA 98121 USA > > Phone: (206) 282-7050 Web: http://www.itr.com > > -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 19:20:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA07484 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:20:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07794; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:20:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:18:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07422; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:18:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07401; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:18:34 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-335.gate.net [199.227.173.81]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA435682; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:20:22 -0400 Message-ID: <378531B6.600BABE6@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 19:18:14 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sven Utcke CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Looking for 701-owner in or by Germany References: <199907081843.UAA17597@asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Sven.. ask this question on my website, in the open forum/confrence section... i have several german users there and one may know someone who has a local 701... i DO know someone, but its been quite a while since i e-mailed him, so his name has flown from my mind.. Sven Utcke wrote: > Hi, > > I'm desperately looking for someone who would allow me to try his 701 > battery in my laptop or alternatively try mine in his. Reason: I know > that either the little chip inside the battery or its opposite number > inside the computer is broken, but don't know which, and IBM would > charge US$ 100,-- to tell me... > > Of course all this is only reasonable if the battery could be send by > mail, and at low cost, so I suppose I'm looking for an 701-owner in > Germany or nearby. > > Anybody who could help me --- or knows someone who could? > > Thanks > > Sven > -- > _ _ _____ Artificial Intelligence Unit > | | | |/ /_ _| University of Hamburg > | |__| ' < | | phone: +49 (0)40 42883-2576 Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30 > |____|_|\_\___| fax : +49 (0)40 42883-2572 D-22527 Hamburg > mailto:utcke@informatik.uni-freiburg.de www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~utcke -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 19:41:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA07657 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:41:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08803; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:40:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:40:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08672; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:40:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.netlinq.nl (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08647; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:39:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.netlinq.nl (195.109.135.151 -> www.netlinq.nl) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:39:56 -0400 Received: from netlinq.nl (adsl-145-99-66-109.snelnet.nl [145.99.66.109]) by www.netlinq.nl (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA27153; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:22:45 +0200 Message-ID: <378536F5.7E52F623@netlinq.nl> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 01:40:37 +0200 From: Jeroen Elfferich Reply-To: jeroen@netlinq.nl Organization: http://www.netlinq.nl/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: taj@nauticom.net CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hot Swapping References: <000101bec8f0$ce917ce0$0100007f@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi Thomas, I am able to hotswap the DVD drive in my 770X, the wee bit slower pal of the 770Z. Your machine should be well capable to do this out of the box, both in Windows 95/98 and NT. Regards, Jeroen "Thomas A. Jones" wrote: > > Is it possible to hot swap the Dvd Drive on a 770Z? > > Thanks for any answers.... > > Tom Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 21:00:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA08231 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11874; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:59:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:58:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11711; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11653; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:57:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.7 -> dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:57:43 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA07912 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:57:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907090057.TAA07912@dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga5-11.ix.netcom.com(207.222.235.11) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma007891; Thu Jul 8 19:57:22 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Thinkpad" Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 20:58:04 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <00d201bec89b$99bae100$020aa8c0@pii333> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP 760CD Hibernation file List-Unsubscribe: Since installing 64Mb RAM in my 760CD, the Hibernation File won't work. It will Suspend, but not Hibernate. Since it will Hibernate with 40MB RAM, is the problem with the hibernation application? Is it maybe written to only build a file of a certain size (and smaller than 64MB)? I have used the PS commands to delete and try to rebuild to no avail. Any input would be appreciated. Allan Ballard TP760CD p120 64Mb 3.0 gig From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 21:27:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA08386 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:27:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13750; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:27:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:25:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13487; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:25:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilot007.cl.msu.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13474; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:25:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilot007.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.107 -> pilot007.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:25:45 -0400 Received: from andres (pm527-28.dialip.mich.net [35.9.48.80]) by pilot007.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA33524 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:25:41 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990708212543.0091e1f0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 21:25:43 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: TP 760CD Hibernation file In-Reply-To: <199907090057.TAA07912@dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com> References: <00d201bec89b$99bae100$020aa8c0@pii333> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I'm not sure if you are saying you just added 64M for a total of 104M, or if you now have a grand total of 64M. My TP 1451 i has 64M and hibernate works, and I'll bet that the hibernate code I have is substancially the same as yours if not identical. If you have more than 64M I can't say--but it would be rather stupid of such a utility not being able to deal with more than that. So that leaves the standard stupid question, which is do you have enough disk? During the creation of the hibernation file does it need more disk than there is ram? I wouldn't think so, but you can't tell unless you stare at the code or documentation. ...And I see upon reading your message again that you have the same amount as I do. Hmmm. Do you get an error message of any kind? --STeve Andre' andres@pilot.msu.edu At 08:58 PM 7/8/99 -0400, Allan Ballard wrote: >Since installing 64Mb RAM in my 760CD, the Hibernation File >won't work. It will Suspend, but not Hibernate. > >Since it will Hibernate with 40MB RAM, is the problem with >the hibernation application? Is it maybe written to only build >a file of a certain size (and smaller than 64MB)? > >I have used the PS commands to delete and try to rebuild to >no avail. > >Any input would be appreciated. > >Allan Ballard > TP760CD p120 64Mb 3.0 gig > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 21:48:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA08530 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:48:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14831; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:47:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:47:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14650; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:47:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14630; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:46:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:46:56 -0400 Received: from 770 ([12.79.53.235]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990709014652.UBFK4954@770>; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:46:52 +0000 Message-ID: <37855462.3F74@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 21:46:10 -0400 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan Ballard CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: TP 760CD Hibernation file References: <199907090057.TAA07912@dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: You need to go into the ThinkPad Configuration in W95 and disable hibernation. This will delete the hib file. You then need to go back in and enable hibernation. This will re-build the file. I think the problem you are having is that you need a file bigger than the amount of RAM in order to hibernate. You still ahve the 40 MB file, which is too small. Allan Ballard wrote: > > Since installing 64Mb RAM in my 760CD, the Hibernation File > won't work. It will Suspend, but not Hibernate. > > Since it will Hibernate with 40MB RAM, is the problem with > the hibernation application? Is it maybe written to only build > a file of a certain size (and smaller than 64MB)? > > I have used the PS commands to delete and try to rebuild to > no avail. > > Any input would be appreciated. > > Allan Ballard > TP760CD p120 64Mb 3.0 gig From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 22:05:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA08601 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:05:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15666; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:04:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:03:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15502; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:03:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15455; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:02:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.7 -> dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:02:21 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA15421 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:02:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907090202.VAA15421@dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga5-11.ix.netcom.com(207.222.235.11) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma015293; Thu Jul 8 21:02:00 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 22:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990708212543.0091e1f0@pilot.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP 760CD Hibernation file List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 21:25:43 -0400, STeve Andre' wrote: >So that leaves the standard stupid question, which is do you >have enough disk? During the creation of the hibernation file >does it need more disk than there is ram? I wouldn't think so, >but you can't tell unless you stare at the code or documentation. > >...And I see upon reading your message again that you have the >same amount as I do. Hmmm. Do you get an error message of any The hiber.bin file is on C:\ My C:\ partition is one gig, with 490 Mb free (I set it to 1 gig to make sure 'dose could grow even if that size is wastful under FAT16). So, yes, there should be enough room to create a 64Mb hiber file. (I have a total of 64Mb, the max for a 760CD). The PM_Hiber.bin file is just 745,472 bytes in size. Woefully short of the required 64Mb. I took off the attributes of PM_Hiber.bin and deleted it, then ran PS2 HFILE C. This creates a 745,472 sized file. No error message, it says the file is 100% complete, but as you can see, it is too small. Fn F12 tries to Hibernte, but fails. The screen blanks, beeps, then comes back to the '95 desktop. Thanks. Allan Ballard From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 22:07:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA08608 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:07:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16102; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:06:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:05:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15762; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:05:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15536; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.7 -> dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:03:57 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA15669; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:03:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907090203.VAA15669@dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga5-11.ix.netcom.com(207.222.235.11) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma015645; Thu Jul 8 21:03:12 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "scosgt@worldnet.att.net" Cc: "Thinkpad" Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 22:03:54 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <37855462.3F74@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP 760CD Hibernation file List-Unsubscribe: The file rebuilds, but it is less than 1 Mb in size. On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 21:46:10 -0400, Bruce Markowitz wrote: >You need to go into the ThinkPad Configuration in W95 and disable >hibernation. This will delete the hib file. >You then need to go back in and enable hibernation. This will re-build >the file. >I think the problem you are having is that you need a file bigger than >the amount of RAM in order to hibernate. You still ahve the 40 MB file, >which is too small. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 22:18:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA08648 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:18:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17114; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:17:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:16:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16743; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:16:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16720; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:16:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:16:19 -0400 Received: from 770 ([12.79.53.235]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990709021614.UURB4954@770>; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:16:14 +0000 Message-ID: <37855B45.5497@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 22:15:33 -0400 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan Ballard CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: TP 760CD Hibernation file References: <199907090203.VAA15669@dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Mine is 102083KB on a 770 with 96 MB RAM. I tihnk it needs to be a bnit larger than the RAM size. Disable Hibernation. Shut down. Go into EasySetup and Initialize. Then go into Config and re-set hibernation It should build a file around 65-70 MB in size. Allan Ballard wrote: > > The file rebuilds, but it is less than 1 Mb in size. > > On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 21:46:10 -0400, Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > >You need to go into the ThinkPad Configuration in W95 and disable > >hibernation. This will delete the hib file. > >You then need to go back in and enable hibernation. This will re-build > >the file. > >I think the problem you are having is that you need a file bigger than > >the amount of RAM in order to hibernate. You still ahve the 40 MB file, > >which is too small. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 22:21:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA08670 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:21:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17643; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:21:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:19:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17252; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17231; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:19:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.37 -> mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:19:31 -0400 Received: from 770 ([12.79.13.63]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990709021927.EVBB4651@770>; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:19:27 +0000 Message-ID: <37855C05.5959@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 22:18:45 -0400 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan Ballard CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: TP 760CD Hibernation file References: <199907090203.VAA15669@dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: BTW, you are not trying to hibernate while docked, are you? Hibernation does not work while docked. Allan Ballard wrote: > > The file rebuilds, but it is less than 1 Mb in size. > > On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 21:46:10 -0400, Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > >You need to go into the ThinkPad Configuration in W95 and disable > >hibernation. This will delete the hib file. > >You then need to go back in and enable hibernation. This will re-build > >the file. > >I think the problem you are having is that you need a file bigger than > >the amount of RAM in order to hibernate. You still ahve the 40 MB file, > >which is too small. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 22:56:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA08808 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:56:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19055; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:54:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:53:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18921; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:53:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost.capecod.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18907; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost.capecod.net (204.255.214.21 -> mailhost.capecod.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:53:48 -0400 Received: from capecod.net (camb0461.capecod.net [209.244.245.207]) by mailhost.capecod.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA02497 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:53:40 -0400 Message-ID: <37856227.F5B2FE3F@capecod.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 22:44:55 -0400 From: rdietric Reply-To: bigdaddy@ieee.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Subject: PC card modem for Linux on TP760XD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I suppose that this has been asked before but does anyone have any recommendations for a PCMCIA Modem that is supported by Linux and that is also compatible with WIN95 on a TP760XD. Thanks in advance Bob From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 22:58:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA08817 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19386; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:57:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:56:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19242; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from access.crcn.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19218; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from access.crcn.net (206.12.129.3 -> access.crcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:56:17 -0400 X-ROUTED: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:57:14 -0800 Received: from [206.12.131.40] by access.crcn.net with smtp id 130a0284 ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:57:02 -0800 From: "Pat Presidente" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: RE: Calling Linux Gurus Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:53:58 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Thanks to those who responded to my Linux display problem. Getting there slowly - I now have a display but it's very large and I need to scroll around on it. How do you change the resolution under Linux? During the installation, when it gave me a number of choices (8, 16, and 24 bit with different resolutions), I selected a number of them - ie. what I have in Win 98. Should I have just selected one? Thanks again for any suggestions Pat ========================================================================= Pat Presidente School District 72 (Campbell River) District Technology Resource Teacher 425 Pinecrest Road Email: pat.presidente@sd72.bc.ca Campbell River, BC V9W 3P2 Ph.(250) 830-2353 Fx.(250) 830-2329 Your door to the future ========================================================================= Well you know I could have me a million more friends And all I'd have to lose is my point of view - John Prine ========================================================================= From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 23:07:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA08855 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:07:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20348; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:06:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:05:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20081; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:05:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.airmail.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20065; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.airmail.net (206.66.12.40 -> mail.airmail.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:05:08 -0400 Received: from jbdesk from [207.136.46.165] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.402) with smtp for sender: id ; Thu, 8 Jul 99 22:05:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <005b01bec9b7$d38d3f00$04000005@jbdesk> Reply-To: "John Black @ airmail.net" From: "John Black @ airmail.net" To: Subject: Re: TP 760CD Hibernation file Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:04:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Allan, I also have a 760CD and have noticed some things don't work correctly when you get above the 48meg line. Don't know if it is still a problem, but, the most annoying thing I have found is that the video driver will not work if you go above 256 colors; this is a real problem........ As near as I can tell, it has to do with the fact that the 8m on the mother board automatically gets mapped out.. I think part of the operating system is still looking for a memory location in that 8m. John -----Original Message----- From: Allan Ballard To: Thinkpad Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 7:59 PM Subject: TP 760CD Hibernation file >Since installing 64Mb RAM in my 760CD, the Hibernation File >won't work. It will Suspend, but not Hibernate. > >Since it will Hibernate with 40MB RAM, is the problem with >the hibernation application? Is it maybe written to only build >a file of a certain size (and smaller than 64MB)? > >I have used the PS commands to delete and try to rebuild to >no avail. > >Any input would be appreciated. > >Allan Ballard > TP760CD p120 64Mb 3.0 gig > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 23:15:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA08898 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:15:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20850; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:14:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20772; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:14:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20753; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.41 -> mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:14:04 -0400 Received: from 770 ([12.79.15.116]) by mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990709031400.UGJG9368@770>; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 03:14:00 +0000 Message-ID: <378568CE.283@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 23:13:18 -0400 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "John Black @ airmail.net" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 760CD Hibernation file References: <005b01bec9b7$d38d3f00$04000005@jbdesk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a 760CD with 56MB, and everything works just fine! John Black @ airmail.net wrote: > > Allan, > > I also have a 760CD and have noticed some things don't work correctly when > you get above the 48meg line. Don't know if it is still a problem, but, the > most annoying thing I have found is that the video driver will not work if > you go above 256 colors; this is a real problem........ > > As near as I can tell, it has to do with the fact that the 8m on the mother > board automatically gets mapped out.. I think part of the operating system > is still looking for a memory location in that 8m. > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: Allan Ballard > To: Thinkpad > Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 7:59 PM > Subject: TP 760CD Hibernation file > > >Since installing 64Mb RAM in my 760CD, the Hibernation File > >won't work. It will Suspend, but not Hibernate. > > > >Since it will Hibernate with 40MB RAM, is the problem with > >the hibernation application? Is it maybe written to only build > >a file of a certain size (and smaller than 64MB)? > > > >I have used the PS commands to delete and try to rebuild to > >no avail. > > > >Any input would be appreciated. > > > >Allan Ballard > > TP760CD p120 64Mb 3.0 gig > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 23:28:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA08997 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:28:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21818; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:27:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:26:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21684; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:26:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21625; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (24.112.32.20 -> smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:26:40 -0400 Received: from mail.on.rogers.wave.ca ([24.112.32.4]:38514 "EHLO mail.on.rogers.wave.ca" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <512920-8891>; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:23:02 -0400 Received: from cr394328-a.rchrd1.on.wave.home.com ([24.112.93.189]:2770 "HELO actprod" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mail.on.rogers.wave.ca with SMTP id <324703-28762>; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:25:49 -0400 From: "Tom Trottier" Organization: ACT Productions Inc., 199-K1S 2P3, Ottawa To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:25:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: TP340 HD upgrade Reply-to: tom@act.ca Priority: normal In-reply-to: <199907082017.PAA25425@dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com> References: <19990708192122Z324675-28765+28@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-Id: <19990709032601Z324703-28762+57@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> List-Unsubscribe: (re:Re: TP340 HD upgrade) On 8 Jul 99, at 16:17, Allan Ballard wrote: > On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:21:12 -0400, Tom Trottier wrote: > > >I have a 512MB C drive and a rump 3MB recovery drive > > I am guessing you are running 'dose95? How did you create > the 3MB recovery drive? Used FDISK, specified my primary DOS drive as 512MB, and put the rest in an extended DOS partition, then created the D: drive in this partition. Copied my Win95 recovery disk to it, with FDISK, etc. I dunno if I could boot from it, but the files are available... > > I added such a maintenance partition to my OS/2 pc, but am > more than a little uncertain about creating a maintenance > partiton on '95. > > Thanks. > > Allan Ballard ------------------ From: Tom Trottier, President, ACT Productions Inc. infoanim@act.ca http://www.act.ca +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 2P3 "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 23:30:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA09022 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:30:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22186; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:29:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:28:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22055; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:28:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21960; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (24.112.32.20 -> smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:28:32 -0400 Received: from mail.on.rogers.wave.ca ([24.112.32.4]:38514 "EHLO mail.on.rogers.wave.ca" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <512920-8890>; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:25:12 -0400 Received: from cr394328-a.rchrd1.on.wave.home.com ([24.112.93.189]:2775 "HELO actprod" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mail.on.rogers.wave.ca with SMTP id <324696-28762>; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:28:03 -0400 From: "Tom Trottier" Organization: ACT Productions Inc., 199-K1S 2P3, Ottawa To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, dhowery@ibm.net Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:27:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Software Battery Conditioner For TP 701's Reply-to: tom@act.ca CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, dhowery@ibm.net Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-Id: <19990709032818Z324696-28762+58@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> List-Unsubscribe: I'd suggest this only if your battery is really, really dead, as a last resort. The NiCd memory effect is mostly a myth. NiCds really die from overcharging & long use. The 701 shouldn't overcharge, but I don't know how to avoid long use... Tom (re:Re: Software Battery Conditioner Fo) On 8 Jul 99, at 14:03, David Jones wrote: > You probably already got the pointer but if not, here it is again. > > http://www.innernet.net/jlk/uploads/701reset.txt > > The actual executable is in the same directory "./701reset.zip". I > have not used it but some people swear by it. > > David Jones > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ... > Recently someone on the list mentioned a software based battery > conditioner for the TP 701. I have never read of this before; can > someone offer a pointer where this program may be downloaded? > > -- > Dave Howery - Marketing Manager Phone - 860 242-0113 ------------------ From: Tom Trottier, President, ACT Productions Inc. infoanim@act.ca http://www.act.ca +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 2P3 "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 8 23:44:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA09136 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:44:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23115; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:43:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23012; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:43:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.zbzoom.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22999; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.zbzoom.net (208.236.36.3 -> ns1.zbzoom.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:43:23 -0400 Received: from tomscomputer (120.tcg3.tcg.dialup.nauticom.net [209.195.138.120]) by ns1.zbzoom.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id XAA07333 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:42:48 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Thomas A. Jones" To: Subject: Zip Drives Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:42:45 -0400 Message-ID: <000001bec9bd$1c2d8620$788ac3d1@tomscomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id XAA23115 I have the VST Ultra-bay zip drive installed on my 770Z. 9549 81U My question is this, while in the office I prefer to have my computer configured with DVD Drive in the Ultra-Bay and have an external zip drive attached through the parallel port. Even though I have the software for the VST Zip Drive installed & the zip drive being recognized when in the ultra-bay, if I remove the VST Zip Dri= ve >from the Ultra Bay, and try to set up my 770Z with the external zip throu= gh the parallel port, it is not recognized. I=92m assuming at this point, that there must be some specific files need= ed >from the zip install disk that came with the external zip drive, for it t= o be recognized. I was wondering if the sysop or anyone else has tried to configure their computer this way, to be able to use the zip drive internally through ultra-bay or externally through the parallel port, and what their experie= nce or advice is. I=92m reluctant to install the software for the external zip drive, feari= ng that it may produce some conflict with the software that was installed wi= th the VST Ultra-bay zip drive. I, of course would not have the internal zip drive in the ultra-bay at the same time I have the external drive attache= d=85. Looking for some advice on this=85 Tom Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 01:58:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA09720 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28257; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:57:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:56:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28110; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:56:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28097; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:56:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:56:28 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-153.gate.net [199.227.20.216]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA12018; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:58:26 -0400 Message-ID: <37858F01.1FF3FF9B@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 01:56:17 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tom@act.ca CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, dhowery@ibm.net Subject: Re: Software Battery Conditioner For TP 701's References: <19990709032818Z324696-28762+58@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Here is the REAL link.. :-) http://www.innernet.net/jlk/uploads/701reset.zip but the better link is: http://www.innernet.net/jlk/main/files/index.html since you also can go to the txt file, which is the below link.. Tom Trottier wrote: > I'd suggest this only if your battery is really, really dead, as a last > resort. > The NiCd memory effect is mostly a myth. NiCds really die from > overcharging & long use. The 701 shouldn't overcharge, but I don't know > how to avoid long use... > > Tom > > (re:Re: Software Battery Conditioner Fo) > On 8 Jul 99, at 14:03, David Jones wrote: > > > You probably already got the pointer but if not, here it is again. > > > > http://www.innernet.net/jlk/uploads/701reset.txt > > > > The actual executable is in the same directory "./701reset.zip". I > > have not used it but some people swear by it. > > > > David Jones > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ... > > Recently someone on the list mentioned a software based battery > > conditioner for the TP 701. I have never read of this before; can > > someone offer a pointer where this program may be downloaded? > > > > -- > > Dave Howery - Marketing Manager Phone - 860 242-0113 > ------------------ > From: Tom Trottier, President, ACT Productions Inc. > infoanim@act.ca http://www.act.ca > +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 > 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 2P3 > "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 01:59:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA09730 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28492; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:57:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28368; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:57:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28352; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:57:51 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-153.gate.net [199.227.20.216]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA146898; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:59:51 -0400 Message-ID: <37858F57.FE314149@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 01:57:43 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: taj@nauticom.net CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Zip Drives References: <000001bec9bd$1c2d8620$788ac3d1@tomscomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id BAA28492 try a seperate hardware profile for each configueration that you want.. Thomas A. Jones wrote: > I have the VST Ultra-bay zip drive installed on my 770Z. 9549 81U > > My question is this, while in the office I prefer to have my computer > configured with DVD Drive in the Ultra-Bay and have an external zip dri= ve > attached through the parallel port. > > Even though I have the software for the VST Zip Drive installed & the z= ip > drive being recognized when in the ultra-bay, if I remove the VST Zip D= rive > from the Ultra Bay, and try to set up my 770Z with the external zip thr= ough > the parallel port, it is not recognized. > > I=92m assuming at this point, that there must be some specific files ne= eded > from the zip install disk that came with the external zip drive, for it= to > be recognized. > > I was wondering if the sysop or anyone else has tried to configure thei= r > computer this way, to be able to use the zip drive internally through > ultra-bay or externally through the parallel port, and what their exper= ience > or advice is. > > I=92m reluctant to install the software for the external zip drive, fea= ring > that it may produce some conflict with the software that was installed = with > the VST Ultra-bay zip drive. I, of course would not have the internal z= ip > drive in the ultra-bay at the same time I have the external drive attac= hed=85. > > Looking for some advice on this=85 > > Tom Jones -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will v= ary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 02:25:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA09978 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:25:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29770; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:23:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29590; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:23:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29577; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (199.175.106.4 -> mail.islandnet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:23:42 -0400 Received: from 139-142-112-166.islandnet.com [139.142.112.166] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m112U4R-000WSTC for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:23:39 -0700 (PDT) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Software Battery Conditioner For TP 701's Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 23:15:39 -0700 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <19990709032818Z324696-28762+58@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> In-Reply-To: <19990709032818Z324696-28762+58@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> Lines: 47 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: The executable resetbat isn't a battery reconditioner. The 701 occasionally thinks that a battery with low or zero charge has 100% charge. (e.g., sometimes when you switch batteries). When the 701 thinks that a battery has 100% charge, it won't charge the battery. That's a catch-22 situation in which the owner thinks that his battery is dead. Resetbat tells something inside the 701 to look at the battery as it really is. I think that every 701 owner should have this utility. Incidentally, I have only used it on NiMH batteries, don't know about NiCad. In article <19990709032818Z324696-28762+58@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca>, you wrote: :I'd suggest this only if your battery is really, really dead, as a last :resort. :The NiCd memory effect is mostly a myth. NiCds really die from :overcharging & long use. The 701 shouldn't overcharge, but I don't know :how to avoid long use... : :Tom : :(re:Re: Software Battery Conditioner Fo) :On 8 Jul 99, at 14:03, David Jones wrote: : :> You probably already got the pointer but if not, here it is again. :> :> http://www.innernet.net/jlk/uploads/701reset.txt :> :> The actual executable is in the same directory "./701reset.zip". I :> have not used it but some people swear by it. :> :> David Jones :> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- :> ... :> Recently someone on the list mentioned a software based battery :> conditioner for the TP 701. I have never read of this before; can :> someone offer a pointer where this program may be downloaded? :> :> -- -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 02:48:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA10114 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:48:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00778; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:47:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00614; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:47:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from access.crcn.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00597; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from access.crcn.net (206.12.129.3 -> access.crcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:47:24 -0400 X-ROUTED: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:48:20 -0800 Received: from [206.12.131.40] by access.crcn.net with smtp id 174f0c84 ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:48:12 -0800 From: "Pat Presidente" To: "Jonathan Berry" , Subject: RE: Software Battery Conditioner For TP 701's Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:45:30 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Is this utitlity only for the 701, or will it work on other batteries - my 380XD, for example. If this one is just for the 701, are others avaialble? Thanks Pat ========================================================================= Pat Presidente School District 72 (Campbell River) District Technology Resource Teacher 425 Pinecrest Road Email: pat.presidente@sd72.bc.ca Campbell River, BC V9W 3P2 Ph.(250) 830-2353 Fx.(250) 830-2329 Your door to the future ========================================================================= Well you know I could have me a million more friends And all I'd have to lose is my point of view - John Prine ========================================================================= -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Berry [mailto:jberry@islandnet.com] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 11:16 PM To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Software Battery Conditioner For TP 701's The executable resetbat isn't a battery reconditioner. The 701 occasionally thinks that a battery with low or zero charge has 100% charge. (e.g., sometimes when you switch batteries). When the 701 thinks that a battery has 100% charge, it won't charge the battery. That's a catch-22 situation in which the owner thinks that his battery is dead. Resetbat tells something inside the 701 to look at the battery as it really is. I think that every 701 owner should have this utility. Incidentally, I have only used it on NiMH batteries, don't know about NiCad. In article <19990709032818Z324696-28762+58@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca>, you wrote: :I'd suggest this only if your battery is really, really dead, as a last :resort. :The NiCd memory effect is mostly a myth. NiCds really die from :overcharging & long use. The 701 shouldn't overcharge, but I don't know :how to avoid long use... : :Tom : :(re:Re: Software Battery Conditioner Fo) :On 8 Jul 99, at 14:03, David Jones wrote: : :> You probably already got the pointer but if not, here it is again. :> :> http://www.innernet.net/jlk/uploads/701reset.txt :> :> The actual executable is in the same directory "./701reset.zip". I :> have not used it but some people swear by it. :> :> David Jones :> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - :> ... :> Recently someone on the list mentioned a software based battery :> conditioner for the TP 701. I have never read of this before; can :> someone offer a pointer where this program may be downloaded? :> :> -- -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 09:09:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA11666 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:09:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20149; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:08:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:07:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19903; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edtnps05.telusplanet.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19890; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edtnps05.telusplanet.net (198.161.157.105 -> edtnps05.telusplanet.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:07:10 -0400 Received: from clgr000018.hs.telusplanet.net ([161.184.80.18]:64835 "HELO tp770xgsnt.sivco.com") by smtp2.telusplanet.net with SMTP id <229670-16560>; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 07:07:10 -0600 From: Geza Szivos/SIVCO Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 07:09:31 -0600 To: Bill Morrow cc: Tom Franklin , Tom Rockwell , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, John Callahan Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices Message-ID: <5420C21918D201D5872567A900482E08.0000000000000000@sivco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Is this offer is good with NEW system purchase ONLY or I can use it when I buy some Options too? Geza Bill Morrow on 07/08/99 05:14:42 PM To: Tom Franklin cc: Tom Rockwell , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, John Callahan FaxTo: Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices the rebate form is available on the IBM website.. http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/offers/cashback_form_1999b.html Tom Franklin wrote: > I was able to order one of these batteries, but the rebate form on the > microwarehouse site doesn't seem to include the battery. I should be > thankful to get it for $50, but $25 sounds better. > > Anyone want to send me the rebate form? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Callahan > To: Tom Rockwell ; > Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 3:50 PM > Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices > > > I have ordered and received the battery for the ThinkPad 560 from > > Microwarhouse. > > > > The Item Number shown on the document I received with the shipment is > > > > AA1520 > > > > Good luck. > > > > John Callahan > > > > At 04:00 PM 7/2/99 -0400, Tom Rockwell wrote: > > >I called warehouse and the order taker wanted the part numbers from > > the > > >flyer (different from the regular ones on the web site) in order to > > give > > >the special prices. Does somebody have the part numbers for the 560 > > >battery and the 56w power adapter? I'd appreciate it if someone > > sent > > >these to me. > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Tom Rockwell > > > > > > > > > > > >>John, > > > > > >>Thanks very much for the notice about the great deal. I called > > Micro > > >>Warehouse and ordered them that way and got 2 $24.95 batteries. > > >>Unfortunately, I ordered a $99.95 from PC Zone a week ago, but who > > can > > >>really complain about 3 batteries for $150? > > > > > >>How can I get on that mailer? > > > > > >>Matthew > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Got some interesting mail from Micro Warehouse today on IBM > > Thinkpad > > >> > accessories. ALl are prices after a $25 rebate > > >> > > > >> > TP 560 batteries $24.95!!!!! > > >> > 56w AC Adapter for thinkpad 600 $19.95 > > >> > Internal 100MB Zip Drive $49.95 > > >> > > > >> > Those seem to be the biggest bargains, but there are some other > > >> > specials. > > >> > > > >> > Follow these procedures. > > >> > > > >> > warehouse.com/ibmopmail > > >> > or 800-551-9577 > > >> > Source code P95x20 > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > >> > John M. Higgins > > >> > Broadcasting & Cable Magazine > > >> > higgins@dorsai.org > > >> > v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 > > >> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > John Callahan, Editor Information Technology Research > > Enterprise Automation Report 2608 Second Avenue Suite 240 > > Member: Computer Press Association Seattle, WA 98121 USA > > Phone: (206) 282-7050 Web: http://www.itr.com > > -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 10:27:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA01397 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:27:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23944; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:26:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:25:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23785; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:25:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.zbzoom.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23772; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:25:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.zbzoom.net (208.236.36.3 -> ns1.zbzoom.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:25:11 -0400 Received: from tomscomputer (lco32.zbzoom.net [208.236.39.32]) by ns1.zbzoom.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id KAA12260 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Thomas A. Jones" To: Subject: IRQ Question Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:24:37 -0400 Message-ID: <000701beca16$c705f420$2027ecd0@zbzoom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: TP 770Z 9549 81U In the device manager under "Com Ports", there is a yellow exclamation mark over Communication Port (Com Port5), and when you select properties for it, it says that "The device cannot find any free Interrupt Request (IRQ)resources to use (code 12)...To use this device you must disable another device that is using the resources...." My question is, is it OK just to leave this alone like this and not make any changes...or if I need to do something, please give me a complete explanation of what I would need to do to eliminate the yellow exclamation & rectify the conflict.. Thanks in advance... Tom Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 11:45:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA01383 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:45:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28360; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:43:03 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28071; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:43:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (128.169.92.76 -> VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:43:01 -0400 Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id LAA13445 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:42:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03474; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:57:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:57:25 -0400 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (kahuna.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA02453; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 11:56:36 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <004101bec98c$c7181040$0f02000a@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: , References: <199907081446.JAA04582@[146.229.5.248]> Subject: Re: Warranty service? Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 11:56:46 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: If you've only talked to the Easy Serve people, then you're not talking to the right group - they are no longer part of the core IBM group, and don't have authority for system replacement. Call customer service - even better, try to find someone at "executive customer service". - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 12:17:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA01709 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:17:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00810; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:16:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:14:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00404; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:14:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00216; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:12:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:12:38 -0400 Received: from p2-450 (client-151-204-210-35.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.35]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA07368 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:11:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990709121543.0403e19c@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 12:15:43 -0400 To: TP List From: Mark Bell Subject: TP600, Inspirion I7k, TP770z In-Reply-To: <4.1.20020210114817.00aa67d0@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Today, for two clients, we got in: Dell Insipirion 7000 (P2-366, 128megs, 6.4gig, 15"TFT) Thinkpad 600 (P2-366, 128megs, 6.4gig, 13.3"TFT) Thinkpad 600 (P2-300, 96megs " ") Since we were setting them up, we ran a few benchmarks on the units and generally sat them side by side with a 770z. First off, the 600 is SO SLIM. I am a die hard 770 man myself, but I was most impressed with the 600's small package. Next to the beefy 770 (and the monsterous I7k), it literally looks like an ultra lite. Secondly, it benchmarks within 5-3% of the 770z. I was rather impressed. FPS in WinQuake TP600= 81 TP770z=81.9 Er, this is where the I7k basically buried them both. FPS = 98.00. That's faster than my brother's Celeron 400 system. The I7k is SO FAST. It literally felt like it was running on par with my desktop for a lot of applications. This puppy compiled like it had attitude in VB and it was just wicked fast. Bulky, big as a house and chunky, but man it is fast.... To see D3D and OpenGL games come up on the TFT was pretty nice too with the RAGE chipset. If only they could shave a few hundred pounds off of the thing. It really reminds me of the term, "luggable." It's pretty juicy. It's only downfall is that in a few years when it gets passed on, it could literally pass for a boat anchor. When I say I could fit 2.5 TP600's in it, I'm not KIDDING. :) The only advantages I can see for the 770z are the 13.7 SXGA screen (awesome), and it can literally take just about any size laptop HD in its copious housing. If HD size wasn't a primary concern (or I could get by with 10gigs), and screen resolution wasn't paramount, I would chuck the 770z for the 600. If anyone prefers 1024x768 and doesn't need 14gigs, I would definitely recommend the TP600. If someone needs sheer, raw jaw dropping power, the biggest screen out there, and lifts weights, get the I7k. If you need the sexiest machine out there with screen real estate to die for and KNOW you are using IBMs flagship product, get the 770z. If they could fit the 13.7" SXGA in the TP600, I would literally chuck my TP770z NOW and get one. But these are just the humble observations of someone who gets to play with toys for a few, brief moments before passing them off to clients.....*sigh* ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 13:54:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02038 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:53:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06288; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:51:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:49:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05918; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05894; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:49:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (134.102.200.16 -> bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:49:05 -0400 Received: from henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (postfix@henker.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.219.172]) by bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA28758; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 19:49:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.217.97]) by henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44DE1193; Fri, 09 Jul 1999 19:47:26 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 19:47:24 +0200 (MET DST) From: Steffan Henke X-Sender: henker@henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de To: Pat Presidente Cc: Thinkpad Subject: RE: Calling Linux Gurus In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Pat Presidente wrote: > Thanks to those who responded to my Linux display problem. Getting there > slowly - I now have a display but it's very large and I need to scroll > around on it. What do you mean by "very large" - do you have a larger virtual desktop than the actual resolution ? You can define your virtual screen in XF86Config. > How do you change the resolution under Linux? If you have defined different resolutions in your XF86Config, you toggle the resolution by pressing CTRL+ALT+Plus/Minus on the numeric keypad, resp. > During the installation, when it gave me a number of choices (8, 16, and 24 > bit with different resolutions), I selected a number of them - ie. what I > have in Win 98. Should I have just selected one? If you want a working Config file for the 560 (Trident Chipset) I can email you mine but I do not want to post it to the list. I have X running smoothly at 800x600, the same as in Windows. With some versions of XFree86 there are some troubles. Regards, Steffan -- ... Our continuing mission: To seek out knowledge of C, to explore strange UNIX commands, and to boldly code where no one has man page 4. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 17:59:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA02562 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 17:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22334; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 17:58:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 17:57:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22158; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 17:57:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailbox.univie.ac.at (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22107; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 17:57:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailbox.univie.ac.at (131.130.1.27 -> mailbox.univie.ac.at) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 17:57:02 -0400 Received: from ai.univie.ac.at (TK212017069216.univie.teleweb.at [212.17.69.216]) by mailbox.univie.ac.at (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id XAA36672 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:56:58 +0200 Message-ID: <3786703A.839EF2AA@ai.univie.ac.at> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 23:57:14 +0200 From: Johannes Fuernkranz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Mon, 05 Jul 1999 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > Subject: Calling Linux Gurus > Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 00:43:28 -0700 > From: "Pat Presidente" > To: "Thinkpad" > > Well, I've taken the plunge and installed Redhat 6.0 on the partitioned hard > drive of my 380XD. Everything went fine until I tried getting monitor > support for Xwindows. Things just go blank. I have an external NEC > Multisync XP17 attached. That particular monitor isn't listed as a choice > so I tried the XE17. Tried a few other things as well but without success. > > If anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate it. I had serious problems in getting my external monitor to go on a TP600. My current best solution is to have two different XF86Config files, one for the external monitor and one for the LCD. The differences are that I specify the option "external" in the former (and use different modelines for higher frequencies). Don't know whether this is helpful for the 380XD. Juffi -- Johannes Fuernkranz Austrian Research Inst. f. Artificial Intelligence Tel:+43-1-5336112-19 Schottengasse 3, A-1010 Wien Fax:+43-1-5336112-77 E-mail: juffi@ai.univie.ac.at WWW: http://www.ai.univie.ac.at/~juffi --------------- "Life is too short for Chess." -- Byron ---------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 20:26:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA03549 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 20:26:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27707; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 20:25:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 20:24:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27531; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 20:24:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27516; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 20:24:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8 -> imo18.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 20:24:44 -0400 Received: from Wmludlow99@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id iWMCa06803 (3859); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 20:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <14e94040.24b7ebba@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 20:20:10 EDT Subject: Re: JUST UNPACKED A TP 701C E BAY #121407228 To: Szivos@ibm.net, penzance@icanect.net CC: tdf@ibm.net, rockwell@msupa.pa.msu.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, goa4500400231@goamerica.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 List-Unsubscribe: AS A NEW MEMBER, I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS. I JUST BOUGHT A 701C OFF E BAY. SOME IMMEDIATE PROBLEMS. THE TP WAS ADVERTISED WITH A 1.44 FD--NOT THERE. I PLUGGED IN THE AC ADAPTER, BUT I CAN'T GET THE LIL' SUCKER TO BOOT. DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE A BATTERY INSTALLED TO COMPLETE THE CIRCUIT BEFORE THEY WILL BOOT? NO INSTRUCTIONS INCLUDED OF COURSE. NO BATTERY EITHER. THIS CUTE LITTLE BLACK BOX HAS ME TOTALLY FRUSTRATED. NOTHING RESEMBLING AN INSTRUCTION BOOK. BOUGHT FROM P3 SERVICES IN MARYLAND. YUP, I NEED HELP! ANY COMMENTS ARE SINCERELY APPRECIATED. BY THE WAY YOU GUYS IN ONTARIO. I WAS BORN IN OWEN SOUND MANY YEARS AGO, EH? NOW U.S. CITIZEN LIVING IN LANSING, MICH. BILL LUDLOW From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 21:09:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA03904 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:09:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29099; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:08:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:06:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28808; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:06:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28794; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:06:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.41 -> mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:06:42 -0400 Received: from 770 ([12.79.18.136]) by mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990710010639.TKVV9368@770>; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 01:06:39 +0000 Message-ID: <37869C75.6E42@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 21:05:57 -0400 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wmludlow99@aol.com CC: Szivos@ibm.net, penzance@icanect.net, tdf@ibm.net, rockwell@msupa.pa.msu.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, goa4500400231@goamerica.net Subject: Re: JUST UNPACKED A TP 701C E BAY #121407228 References: <14e94040.24b7ebba@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: He advertised it with the 1.44 floppy and a 90 day warranty. If he can not supply the floppy, or if it will not boot, contact the seller for a refund! Wmludlow99@aol.com wrote: > > AS A NEW MEMBER, I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS. I JUST BOUGHT A 701C OFF E BAY. SOME > IMMEDIATE PROBLEMS. THE TP WAS ADVERTISED WITH A 1.44 FD--NOT THERE. I > PLUGGED IN THE AC ADAPTER, BUT I CAN'T GET THE LIL' SUCKER TO BOOT. DO THEY > HAVE TO HAVE A BATTERY INSTALLED TO COMPLETE THE CIRCUIT BEFORE THEY WILL > BOOT? NO INSTRUCTIONS INCLUDED OF COURSE. NO BATTERY EITHER. THIS CUTE LITTLE > BLACK BOX HAS ME TOTALLY FRUSTRATED. NOTHING RESEMBLING AN INSTRUCTION BOOK. > BOUGHT FROM P3 SERVICES IN MARYLAND. YUP, I NEED HELP! ANY COMMENTS ARE > SINCERELY APPRECIATED. BY THE WAY YOU GUYS IN ONTARIO. I WAS BORN IN OWEN > SOUND MANY YEARS AGO, EH? NOW U.S. CITIZEN LIVING IN LANSING, MICH. > > BILL LUDLOW From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 21:09:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA03921 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:09:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29405; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:07:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28937; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28878; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:07:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.41 -> mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:07:12 -0400 Received: from 770 ([12.79.18.136]) by mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990710010708.TKZR9368@770>; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 01:07:08 +0000 Message-ID: <37869C92.2417@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 21:06:26 -0400 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wmludlow99@aol.com CC: Szivos@ibm.net, penzance@icanect.net, tdf@ibm.net, rockwell@msupa.pa.msu.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, goa4500400231@goamerica.net Subject: Re: JUST UNPACKED A TP 701C E BAY #121407228 References: <14e94040.24b7ebba@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: He advertised it with the 1.44 floppy and a 90 day warranty. If he can not supply the floppy, or if it will not boot, contact the seller for a refund! And turn off your caps key! Wmludlow99@aol.com wrote: > > AS A NEW MEMBER, I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS. I JUST BOUGHT A 701C OFF E BAY. SOME > IMMEDIATE PROBLEMS. THE TP WAS ADVERTISED WITH A 1.44 FD--NOT THERE. I > PLUGGED IN THE AC ADAPTER, BUT I CAN'T GET THE LIL' SUCKER TO BOOT. DO THEY > HAVE TO HAVE A BATTERY INSTALLED TO COMPLETE THE CIRCUIT BEFORE THEY WILL > BOOT? NO INSTRUCTIONS INCLUDED OF COURSE. NO BATTERY EITHER. THIS CUTE LITTLE > BLACK BOX HAS ME TOTALLY FRUSTRATED. NOTHING RESEMBLING AN INSTRUCTION BOOK. > BOUGHT FROM P3 SERVICES IN MARYLAND. YUP, I NEED HELP! ANY COMMENTS ARE > SINCERELY APPRECIATED. BY THE WAY YOU GUYS IN ONTARIO. I WAS BORN IN OWEN > SOUND MANY YEARS AGO, EH? NOW U.S. CITIZEN LIVING IN LANSING, MICH. > > BILL LUDLOW From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 22:01:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA04254 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:01:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01236; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:01:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:00:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01101; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:00:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01088; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:00:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (207.69.200.30 -> smtp0.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:00:24 -0400 Received: from ms154504 (user-38ld5v8.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.151.232]) by smtp0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA26244; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990709215611.0093b4d0@mindspring.com> X-Sender: rchalk@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 22:00:02 -0400 To: , From: Richard Chalk Subject: Re: IRQ Question In-Reply-To: <000701beca16$c705f420$2027ecd0@zbzoom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: If you try to have active the com port, the IR port, the modem, the printer port, the sound system, etc., you will often run out of resources, particularly IRQs If you double-click on Computer, at the top of the list, you will see a list of all the IRQs, and which device is using them. You can disable one or more (I have disabled the IR port) to free up an IRQ that the com port may be able to use. Good luck!!! Richard At 10:24 AM 7/9/99 -0400, Thomas A. Jones wrote: >TP 770Z 9549 81U > >In the device manager under "Com Ports", there is a yellow exclamation mark >over Communication Port (Com Port5), and when you select properties for it, >it says that "The device cannot find any free Interrupt Request >(IRQ)resources to use (code 12)...To use this device you must disable >another device that is using the resources...." > >My question is, is it OK just to leave this alone like this and not make any >changes...or if I need to do something, please give me a complete >explanation of what I would need to do to eliminate the yellow exclamation & >rectify the conflict.. > >Thanks in advance... > >Tom Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 22:46:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA04592 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02729; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:44:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:43:20 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02365; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:43:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (128.169.92.76 -> VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:43:18 -0400 Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id WAA19827 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16065; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 16:02:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.8 -> dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 16:02:14 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA06211 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 15:02:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907092002.PAA06211@dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga5-21.ix.netcom.com(207.222.235.21) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma006144; Fri Jul 9 15:01:39 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 16:02:20 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <005b01bec9b7$d38d3f00$04000005@jbdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP 760CD Hibernation file resolved List-Unsubscribe: Thanks to all who contributed ideas to solve the hibernation file problem. I finally resolved the problem, using old fashioned DOS skills. The PS2 commands, and the TP utility, not to mention Setup, all failed to do the job. All they would do was create a file about size 745K. This is way too small for a unit with 64Mb RAM. I used DOS to copy the (too small) file to a new name (C:\copy PM_Hiber.bin pm.aaa). Then DOS to Copy:\ pm.aaa + pm.aaa + pm.aaa {etc} PM_Hiber.bin. Using enough copies to total over 64Mb, the old PM_Hiber.bin was over written with a new 70MB PM_Hiber.bin. Now, the 760CD hibernates just fine with 64MB RAM. For some reason, the software just would NOT create a properly sized hibernation file with 64MB RAM installed. With only 40 MB RAM installed, it will create a properly sized hibernation file. Happy trails. Allan Ballard TP760CD p120 64MB 8X 3.0 gig > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Allan Ballard >To: Thinkpad >Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 7:59 PM >Subject: TP 760CD Hibernation file > > >>Since installing 64Mb RAM in my 760CD, the Hibernation File >>won't work. It will Suspend, but not Hibernate. >> >>Since it will Hibernate with 40MB RAM, is the problem with >>the hibernation application? Is it maybe written to only build >>a file of a certain size (and smaller than 64MB)? >> >>I have used the PS commands to delete and try to rebuild to >>no avail. >> >>Any input would be appreciated. >> >>Allan Ballard >> TP760CD p120 64Mb 3.0 gig >> >> > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 22:48:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA04639 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:48:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03402; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:47:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:43:38 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02424; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (128.169.92.76 -> VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:43:36 -0400 Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id WAA19837 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:43:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16189; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 16:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.8 -> dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 16:03:28 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA06489; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 15:03:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907092003.PAA06489@dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga5-21.ix.netcom.com(207.222.235.21) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma006384; Fri Jul 9 15:02:31 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "scosgt@worldnet.att.net" Cc: "Thinkpad" Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 16:03:14 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <37855C05.5959@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP 760CD Hibernation file List-Unsubscribe: Thanks, but no. I posted a "cure" onto the forum board. I don't have a dock, but wish I did. Allan Ballard On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 22:18:45 -0400, Bruce Markowitz wrote: >BTW, you are not trying to hibernate while docked, are you? Hibernation >does not work while docked. > >Allan Ballard wrote: >> >> The file rebuilds, but it is less than 1 Mb in size. >> >> On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 21:46:10 -0400, Bruce Markowitz wrote: >> >> >You need to go into the ThinkPad Configuration in W95 and disable >> >hibernation. This will delete the hib file. >> >You then need to go back in and enable hibernation. This will re-build >> >the file. >> >I think the problem you are having is that you need a file bigger than >> >the amount of RAM in order to hibernate. You still ahve the 40 MB file, >> >which is too small. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 22:49:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA04655 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:49:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03485; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:44:21 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02607; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:44:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (128.169.92.76 -> VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:44:18 -0400 Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id WAA19866 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:44:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16564; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 16:09:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.8 -> dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 16:09:01 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA07434 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 15:08:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907092008.PAA07434@dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga5-21.ix.netcom.com(207.222.235.21) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma007347; Fri Jul 9 15:08:25 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Thinkpad" Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 16:09:08 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <00d201bec89b$99bae100$020aa8c0@pii333> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP760CD RISC chip List-Unsubscribe: A question regarding the TP760CD. I understand it has a RISC chip (40MHZ) to help with full motion video. Does this chip augment the cpu in any other way? Likewise for the DSP (sound) chip? I was wondering whether this arrangement provided a boost to the (now ancient) p120 cpu. I am no hardware guru, but it seems unsual to have three chips? Thanks. Allan Ballard From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 22:49:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA04650 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03482; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:44:06 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02544; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:44:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (128.169.92.76 -> VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:44:03 -0400 Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id WAA19852 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:43:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16268; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 16:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.8 -> dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 16:05:08 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA06696; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 15:04:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907092004.PAA06696@dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga5-21.ix.netcom.com(207.222.235.21) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma006661; Fri Jul 9 15:04:25 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "tom@act.ca" Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 16:05:07 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <19990709032601Z324703-28762+57@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP340 HD upgrade List-Unsubscribe: Thanks. Yes, that would do it. Pretty rough on a functioning system though . Partition Magic's iteration of Boot Manager would work fine with a functioning system, I think. On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:25:38 -0400, Tom Trottier wrote: >(re:Re: TP340 HD upgrade) >On 8 Jul 99, at 16:17, Allan Ballard wrote: > >> On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:21:12 -0400, Tom Trottier wrote: >> >> >I have a 512MB C drive and a rump 3MB recovery drive >> >> I am guessing you are running 'dose95? How did you create >> the 3MB recovery drive? > >Used FDISK, specified my primary DOS drive as 512MB, and put the rest >in an extended DOS partition, then created the D: drive in this >partition. Copied my Win95 recovery disk to it, with FDISK, etc. I >dunno if I could boot from it, but the files are available... >> >> I added such a maintenance partition to my OS/2 pc, but am >> more than a little uncertain about creating a maintenance >> partiton on '95. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Allan Ballard >------------------ >From: Tom Trottier, President, ACT Productions Inc. >infoanim@act.ca http://www.act.ca >+1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 >199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 2P3 >"Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 23:13:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA04869 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:13:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04732; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:11:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04609; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:11:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04595; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:11:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:11:48 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-338.gate.net [199.227.131.147]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA404966; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:13:43 -0400 Message-ID: <3786B9E7.6FE9460C@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 23:11:35 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wmludlow99@aol.com CC: Szivos@ibm.net, tdf@ibm.net, rockwell@msupa.pa.msu.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, goa4500400231@goamerica.net Subject: Re: JUST UNPACKED A TP 701C E BAY #121407228 References: <14e94040.24b7ebba@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bill Wmludlow99@aol.com wrote: > AS A NEW MEMBER, I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS. I JUST BOUGHT A 701C OFF E BAY. SOME > IMMEDIATE PROBLEMS. THE TP WAS ADVERTISED WITH A 1.44 FD--NOT THERE. I > PLUGGED IN THE AC ADAPTER, BUT I CAN'T GET THE LIL' SUCKER TO BOOT. DO THEY > HAVE TO HAVE A BATTERY INSTALLED TO COMPLETE THE CIRCUIT BEFORE THEY WILL > BOOT? no > NO INSTRUCTIONS INCLUDED OF COURSE. NO BATTERY EITHER. THIS CUTE LITTLE > BLACK BOX HAS ME TOTALLY FRUSTRATED. NOTHING RESEMBLING AN INSTRUCTION BOOK. > BOUGHT FROM P3 SERVICES IN MARYLAND. YUP, I NEED HELP! ANY COMMENTS ARE > SINCERELY APPRECIATED. BY THE WAY YOU GUYS IN ONTARIO. I WAS BORN IN OWEN > SOUND MANY YEARS AGO, EH? NOW U.S. CITIZEN LIVING IN LANSING, MICH. > what WAS included..?? > BILL LUDLOW -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 23:24:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA04949 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:24:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05366; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:23:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:23:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05178; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:23:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05165; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:23:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:23:01 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-338.gate.net [199.227.131.147]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA379662; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:24:51 -0400 Message-ID: <3786BC83.3FAD6256@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 23:22:44 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan Ballard CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP 760CD Hibernation file resolved References: <199907092002.PAA06211@dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: there have been problems reported with the 760CD associated witha full 64meg.. there have only been video problems so far.. the cure is to use the generic video driver rather than the ibm supplied video driver.. Allan Ballard wrote: > Thanks to all who contributed ideas to solve the > hibernation file problem. > > I finally resolved the problem, using old fashioned > DOS skills. The PS2 commands, and the TP utility, > not to mention Setup, all failed to do the job. > > All they would do was create a file about size 745K. This > is way too small for a unit with 64Mb RAM. > > I used DOS to copy the (too small) file to a new > name (C:\copy PM_Hiber.bin pm.aaa). > > Then DOS to Copy:\ pm.aaa + pm.aaa + pm.aaa {etc} PM_Hiber.bin. > Using enough copies to total over 64Mb, the old PM_Hiber.bin was > over written with a new 70MB PM_Hiber.bin. > > Now, the 760CD hibernates just fine with 64MB RAM. > > For some reason, the software just would NOT create a properly > sized hibernation file with 64MB RAM installed. With only 40 MB > RAM installed, it will create a properly sized hibernation file. > > Happy trails. > > Allan Ballard > TP760CD p120 64MB 8X 3.0 gig > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Allan Ballard > >To: Thinkpad > >Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 7:59 PM > >Subject: TP 760CD Hibernation file > > > > > >>Since installing 64Mb RAM in my 760CD, the Hibernation File > >>won't work. It will Suspend, but not Hibernate. > >> > >>Since it will Hibernate with 40MB RAM, is the problem with > >>the hibernation application? Is it maybe written to only build > >>a file of a certain size (and smaller than 64MB)? > >> > >>I have used the PS commands to delete and try to rebuild to > >>no avail. > >> > >>Any input would be appreciated. > >> > >>Allan Ballard > >> TP760CD p120 64Mb 3.0 gig > >> > >> > > > > -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 9 23:26:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA04970 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:26:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05771; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:25:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:24:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05583; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:24:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05559; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:24:50 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-338.gate.net [199.227.131.147]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA69792; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:22:43 -0400 Message-ID: <3786BC03.92372440@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 23:20:35 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan Ballard CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: TP760CD RISC chip References: <199907092008.PAA07434@dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: the 760CD had Mwave, which is a DSP, that handled the modem and sound.. only.. the p90 or p120 was on its own for computing activities.. Allan Ballard wrote: > A question regarding the TP760CD. > > I understand it has a RISC chip (40MHZ) to help with > full motion video. Does this chip augment the cpu in > any other way? > > Likewise for the DSP (sound) chip? > > I was wondering whether this arrangement provided a > boost to the (now ancient) p120 cpu. > > I am no hardware guru, but it seems unsual to have > three chips? > > Thanks. > > Allan Ballard -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 10 06:32:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA06735 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 06:32:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24892; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 06:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 06:31:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24720; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 06:31:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bradnet.legend.co.uk (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24706; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 06:31:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bradnet.legend.co.uk (194.164.19.39 -> bradnet.legend.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 06:31:03 -0400 Received: by bradnet.legend.co.uk (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.03/2.0) id LAA004.98; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 11:22:41 +0100 Message-Id: <199907101022.LAA004.98@bradnet.legend.co.uk> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 99 11:22:40 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: [TP600] Booting from PCMCIA To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] for OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone tried booting a TP600 from a PCMCIA ATA disk? I have a disk that boots fine on a 760C, but is completely ignore in the start up sequence on my TP600. Can some confirm that it is supposed to work? -- John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 10 10:59:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA07776 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:59:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01025; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:57:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00829; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00816; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:57:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (199.175.106.4 -> mail.islandnet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:57:24 -0400 Received: from 139-142-112-171.islandnet.com [139.142.112.171] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m112yYx-000WRzC for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 07:57:11 -0700 (PDT) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: pat.presidente@crcn.net Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Software Battery Conditioner For TP 701's Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 07:50:45 -0700 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Lines: 48 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: Just 701 AFAIK. To answer in the negative about other laptops is fraught with insecurity, as the persons trying to prove Fermat's Last Theorem discovered. How's that for a non-sequitur? In article , you wrote: :Is this utitlity only for the 701, or will it work on other batteries - my :380XD, for example. :If this one is just for the 701, are others avaialble? : :Thanks :Pat : : :The executable resetbat isn't a battery reconditioner. : :The 701 occasionally thinks that a battery with low or zero :charge has 100% charge. (e.g., sometimes when you switch :batteries). When the 701 thinks that a battery has :100% charge, it won't charge the battery. That's a catch-22 :situation in which the owner thinks that his battery is dead. :Resetbat tells something inside the 701 to look at the battery :as it really is. : :I think that every 701 owner should have this utility. : :Incidentally, I have only used it on NiMH batteries, don't know :about NiCad. : ::> http://www.innernet.net/jlk/uploads/701reset.txt ::> ::> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- :- ::> ... ::> Recently someone on the list mentioned a software based battery ::> conditioner for the TP 701. I have never read of this before; can ::> someone offer a pointer where this program may be downloaded? ::> ::> -- : -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 10 11:14:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07895 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 11:14:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01501; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 11:08:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 11:08:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01379; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 11:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01359; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 11:07:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2 -> imo12.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 11:07:13 -0400 Received: from Wmludlow99@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id cTNFa28546 (14397); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 11:05:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 11:05:44 EDT Subject: Re: JUST UNPACKED A TP 701C E BAY #121407228 To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net CC: Szivos@ibm.net, tdf@ibm.net, rockwell@msupa.pa.msu.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, goa4500400231@goamerica.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 List-Unsubscribe: FIRST, PLEASE EXCUSE AND DISREGARD THE CAPS TYPING. I HAVE TRIED TO MAKE IT AS UNOBTRUSIVE AS POSSIBLE. IT IS DUE TO A RIGHT SIDE PARALYTIC DISABILITY. WITHOUT CAPS, IHIS WOULD TAKE MUCH LONGER. I'M NOT YELLING. YOU'D KNOW IT IF I WERE. NOW WHAT I HAVE TO DO IS TO LOCATE A 701C T.P. THAT ACTUALLY DOES HAVE A FLOPPY AND A BATTERY FOR ABOUT THE SAME AS I PAID FOR THIS ONE ALSO, THE LARGER HARD DRIVE . I'VE BOUGHT HUNDREDS OF ARTICLES THROUGH E BAY AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE BEEN SCREWED. OF COURSE IT'S THE FIRST TIME I HAVE PAID OVER $300 TOO. BILL LUDLOW From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 10 12:44:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA08614 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04268; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:42:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04023; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:42:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from europa.veggie.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04007; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:42:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from europa.veggie.com (128.255.63.229 -> gauguin.weeg.uiowa.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:42:45 -0400 Received: (from bonak@localhost) by europa.veggie.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA01956 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 11:43:48 -0500 From: Esmail Bonakdarian Message-Id: <199907101643.LAA01956@europa.veggie.com> Subject: TP560 and linux sound? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 11:43:48 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: esmail@uiowa.edu Reply-To: Esmail Bonakdarian Content-Type: text List-Unsubscribe: Hiya, I've got a TP560x running linux on it. I was wondering if anyone has sound working on one of these? I am currently running 2.0.36 (RH 5.2) on it, but plan to upgrade the kernel to 2.2.5 (just the kernel and required utils, not RH 6.0 since their glibc2.1 caused some problems for me) Thanks, Esmail ---- Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak v.e. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 10 13:15:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA08891 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:15:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05225; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:15:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:14:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05053; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:14:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05040; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:14:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (209.228.14.77 -> c004-h006.c004.sfo.cp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:14:25 -0400 Received: (cpmta 7827 invoked from network); 10 Jul 1999 10:14:21 -0700 Received: from mg134-071.ricochet.net (HELO THINKPAD600) (204.179.134.71) by smtp.detayls.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 1999 10:14:21 -0700 X-Sent: 10 Jul 1999 17:14:21 GMT Message-ID: <006001becaf7$b50b44a0$4786b3cc@THINKPAD600> From: "David W. Taylor" To: , References: <199907101022.LAA004.98@bradnet.legend.co.uk> Subject: Re: [TP600] Booting from PCMCIA Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:14:43 -0700 Organization: Detayls MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: Without turning off my own TP600 to check, I can't remember if a PCMCIA option is present in the Start Up icon list. To change your startup options, shut your machine down completely and then start it while keeping the F1 key fully pressed. It will come up in the BIOS screen and allow you to change all kinds of options. The section that you want is "power on startup" from memory. This is all in the Manual, you know. (grin) Good luck. David ----- Original Message ----- From: John Poltorak To: Sent: Saturday, July 10, 1999 3:22 AM Subject: [TP600] Booting from PCMCIA > Has anyone tried booting a TP600 from a PCMCIA ATA disk? > > I have a disk that boots fine on a 760C, but is completely ignore in > the start up sequence on my TP600. Can some confirm that it is > supposed to work? > > -- > John > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 10 14:19:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA09650 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:19:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06842; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:18:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:17:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06626; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:17:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06613; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:17:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (204.101.251.53 -> smtp11.bellglobal.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:17:19 -0400 Received: from mpro1 (HSE-TOR-ppp26767.sympatico.ca [209.226.86.248]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA07947; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <039201becb01$1252e1a0$f856e2d1@mpro1.bellglobal.com> Reply-To: "Carlos de la Puente" From: "Carlos de la Puente" To: Cc: Subject: Re: JUST UNPACKED A TP 701C E BAY #121407228 Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:21:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_038F_01BECADF.8ADADEB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_038F_01BECADF.8ADADEB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Mr. Ludlow, I am sorry to see you are having problems with the 701 you purchased. As = some in here know, I also sell products at eBay and this is not good = publicity. I have every PDF available for ThinkPads, and have not seen one for the = 701. But the following link is an Electronic Pocket Reference Manual = with lots of useful information on the 701 (including problem = determination and checkouts): http://servicepac.mainz.ibm.com/eprmhtml/epr2a/3957.htm This should help you determine if the unit is in fact inoperable. If = it's missing the floppy drive and the battery, it could very well be = missing the hard disk drive too. The 701 has a single memory socket, if = it has 16MB (as listed), there should be an 8MB an 8MB DIMM installed in = the memory socket. 16MB is a bad proposition with the 701, not enough = for these days, and you have to replace the 8MB in order to add memory. And by the way, it doesn't need a battery to operate if the AC adapter = is connected. I looked at the ad for the subject auction; No mention of a battery = (never assume anything at the auctions, always ask), but they do mention = a floppy (although they don't mention the cable which costs around $30). = The wording "REFURBISHED, 90 DAY WARRANTY" implies a working unit.=20 =20 Since the unit is not working -- and they sold it with a warranty, ask = the seller to take the unit back. Hopefully you paid with a credit card = (which gives you some recourse). The seller has a "9" feedback rating, = and while there are no negative comments, this is a new seller and has = sold a lot of products recently (around 50) that have yet to receive any = feedback. That would raise some concern with me. But give the seller the = benefit of the doubt and see if he does good on his warranty and the = missing floppy. It should have had a battery, but there is no mention of = it being included or not. If he is an honest seller, he should provide = you with one. The term "Refurbished" implies that the unit has been = brought as close to its original condition as possible. Otherwise, it = should be listed as simply "used" and the missing components listed. =20 When all is said and done, remember to leave feedback. But wait until = you have given the seller an opportunity to remediate the situation. Best of luck, Carlos=20 -----Original Message----- From: Wmludlow99@aol.com To: Szivos@ibm.net ; penzance@icanect.net = Cc: tdf@ibm.net ; rockwell@msupa.pa.msu.edu = ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu ; = goa4500400231@goamerica.net Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 8:20 PM Subject: Re: JUST UNPACKED A TP 701C E BAY #121407228 =20 =20 AS A NEW MEMBER, I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS. I JUST BOUGHT A 701C OFF E = BAY. SOME=20 IMMEDIATE PROBLEMS. THE TP WAS ADVERTISED WITH A 1.44 FD--NOT THERE. = I=20 PLUGGED IN THE AC ADAPTER, BUT I CAN'T GET THE LIL' SUCKER TO BOOT. = DO THEY=20 HAVE TO HAVE A BATTERY INSTALLED TO COMPLETE THE CIRCUIT BEFORE THEY = WILL=20 BOOT? NO INSTRUCTIONS INCLUDED OF COURSE. NO BATTERY EITHER. THIS = CUTE LITTLE=20 BLACK BOX HAS ME TOTALLY FRUSTRATED. NOTHING RESEMBLING AN = INSTRUCTION BOOK.=20 BOUGHT FROM P3 SERVICES IN MARYLAND. YUP, I NEED HELP! ANY COMMENTS = ARE=20 SINCERELY APPRECIATED. BY THE WAY YOU GUYS IN ONTARIO. I WAS BORN IN = OWEN=20 SOUND MANY YEARS AGO, EH? NOW U.S. CITIZEN LIVING IN LANSING, MICH. =20 BILL LUDLOW ------=_NextPart_000_038F_01BECADF.8ADADEB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Mr. Ludlow,
 
I am sorry to see you are having problems with the = 701 you=20 purchased. As some in here know, I also sell products at eBay and this = is not=20 good publicity.
 
I have every PDF available for = ThinkPads, and=20 have not seen one for the 701. But the following link is an Electronic = Pocket=20 Reference Manual with lots of useful information on the 701 (including = problem=20 determination and checkouts):
http://s= ervicepac.mainz.ibm.com/eprmhtml/epr2a/3957.htm
 
This should help you determine if the unit is in = fact=20 inoperable. If it's missing the floppy drive and the battery, it could = very well=20 be missing the hard disk drive too. The 701 has a single memory socket, = if it=20 has 16MB (as listed), there should be an 8MB an 8MB DIMM installed in = the memory=20 socket. 16MB is a bad proposition with the 701, not enough for these = days, and=20 you have to replace the 8MB in order to add memory.
 
And by the way, it doesn't need a battery to operate = if the AC=20 adapter is connected.
 
I looked at the ad for the subject auction; No = mention of a=20 battery (never assume anything at the auctions, always ask), but they do = mention=20 a floppy (although they don't mention the cable which costs around $30). = The=20 wording "REFURBISHED, 90 DAY WARRANTY" implies a working unit. =
 
Since the unit is not working -- and = they sold=20 it with a warranty, ask the seller to take the unit back. Hopefully you = paid=20 with a credit card (which gives you some recourse). The seller has a=20 "9" feedback rating, and while there are no negative comments, = this is=20 a new seller and has sold a lot of products recently (around 50) that = have yet=20 to receive any feedback. That would raise some concern with me. But give = the=20 seller the benefit of the doubt and see if he does good on his warranty = and the=20 missing floppy. It should have had a battery, but there is no mention of = it=20 being included or not. If he is an honest seller, he should provide you = with=20 one. The term "Refurbished" implies that the unit has been = brought as=20 close to its original condition as possible. Otherwise, it should be = listed as=20 simply "used" and the missing components listed.
 
When all is said and done, remember to leave = feedback. But=20 wait until you have given the seller an opportunity to remediate the=20 situation.
 
Best of luck,
Carlos 
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Wmludlow99@aol.com = <Wmludlow99@aol.com>
To: = Szivos@ibm.net <Szivos@ibm.net>; penzance@icanect.net <penzance@icanect.net>
C= c:=20 tdf@ibm.net <tdf@ibm.net>; rockwell@msupa.pa.msu.edu = <rockwell@msupa.pa.msu.edu&g= t;;=20 thinkpad@cs.utk.edu = <thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>; goa4500400231@goamerica.net=20 <goa4500400231@goamerica.net>
Date:=20 Friday, July 09, 1999 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: JUST = UNPACKED A TP=20 701C E BAY #121407228

AS A NEW MEMBER, I HAVE = SOME=20 PROBLEMS. I JUST BOUGHT A 701C OFF E BAY. SOME
IMMEDIATE = PROBLEMS. THE=20 TP WAS ADVERTISED WITH A 1.44 FD--NOT THERE. I
PLUGGED IN THE AC = ADAPTER, BUT I CAN'T GET THE LIL' SUCKER TO BOOT. DO THEY
HAVE = TO HAVE A=20 BATTERY INSTALLED TO COMPLETE THE CIRCUIT BEFORE THEY WILL
BOOT? = NO=20 INSTRUCTIONS INCLUDED OF COURSE. NO BATTERY EITHER. THIS CUTE LITTLE =
BLACK BOX HAS ME TOTALLY FRUSTRATED.  NOTHING RESEMBLING AN = INSTRUCTION BOOK.
BOUGHT FROM P3 SERVICES IN MARYLAND. YUP, I = NEED HELP!=20 ANY COMMENTS ARE
SINCERELY APPRECIATED. BY THE WAY YOU GUYS IN = ONTARIO.=20 I WAS BORN IN OWEN
SOUND MANY YEARS AGO, EH? NOW U.S. CITIZEN = LIVING IN=20 LANSING, MICH.

BILL LUDLOW
------=_NextPart_000_038F_01BECADF.8ADADEB0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 10 15:47:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA10397 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09071; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:46:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:45:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08850; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:45:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08837; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:45:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10 -> imo20.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:45:17 -0400 Received: from Wmludlow99@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id 1VLYa23618 (4464); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:43:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6a183d26.24b8fc6d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:43:41 EDT Subject: 701c problems To: delapuente.Carlos@sympatico.ca CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 List-Unsubscribe: carlos, i received mail from you today. so soon they forget! i bought the thinkpad docking station from you with the 701 adapter and the shelf included. had i known that you sold the 701c also, things may well have turned out differently. without complete satisfaction from these guys, i intend to get my money back. or they won't sell on e bay any more. i reported the entire conduct to the auction. i downloaded the PDF you referred me to. made a disk for whatever 701c i end up with, also. i will keep you fully advised on the progress of the situation. thanks again for your interest. BILL LUDLOW From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 10 20:55:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA12314 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 20:55:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19000; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 20:55:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 20:53:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18799; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 20:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18786; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 20:53:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.41 -> mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 20:53:32 -0400 Received: from 770 ([12.79.13.53]) by mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990711005327.OLPN9368@770>; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 00:53:27 +0000 Message-ID: <3787EADE.301E@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 20:52:46 -0400 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP600] Booting from PCMCIA References: <199907101022.LAA004.98@bradnet.legend.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: My 755CD will boot from a shark PCMCIA drive, but my 760's will not... Both will boot from a PCMCIA 260MB Viper HDD I think some units do not get enough power from the slot to boot, although they will wrok as a PCMCIA drive after loading the OS. John Poltorak wrote: > > Has anyone tried booting a TP600 from a PCMCIA ATA disk? > > I have a disk that boots fine on a 760C, but is completely ignore in > the start up sequence on my TP600. Can some confirm that it is > supposed to work? > > -- > John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 10 22:34:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA13319 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 22:34:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20963; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 22:34:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 22:33:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20776; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 22:33:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20750; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 22:32:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.4 -> dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 22:32:07 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA00639; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 21:31:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907110231.VAA00639@dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga15-25.ix.netcom.com(207.95.119.153) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma000632; Sat Jul 10 21:31:07 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Bill Morrow" Cc: "Thinkpad" Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 22:31:51 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <3786BC03.92372440@icanect.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP760CD RISC chip List-Unsubscribe: I guess I can accept that regarding the DSP chip, but am not clear about the RISC chip, used for motion video, and perhaps other work? The 760CD's work is divided three ways: telephone - DSP chip motion video - RISC chip other instructions - pentium chip It is still fuzzy to me whether the RISC chip is dedicated to motion video? -- and if so, are Thinkpad's without this extra chip dependent on a stronger cpu for motion video? On Fri, 09 Jul 1999 23:20:35 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: >the 760CD had Mwave, which is a DSP, that handled the modem and sound.. >only.. > >the p90 or p120 was on its own for computing activities.. > > >Allan Ballard wrote: > >> A question regarding the TP760CD. >> >> I understand it has a RISC chip (40MHZ) to help with >> full motion video. Does this chip augment the cpu in >> any other way? >> >> Likewise for the DSP (sound) chip? >> >> I was wondering whether this arrangement provided a >> boost to the (now ancient) p120 cpu. >> >> I am no hardware guru, but it seems unsual to have >> three chips? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Allan Ballard > > > >-- >Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) >WEB page http://thinkpads.com >Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html >Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop >e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net >770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > >Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will >vary, Done on a >closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 11 02:50:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA15210 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 02:50:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27258; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 02:49:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 02:48:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27017; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 02:48:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.ibm.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27004; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 02:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.ibm.net (165.87.194.239 -> out4.ibm.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 02:48:40 -0400 Received: from thinkpad (slip-32-101-169-107.nj.us.ibm.net [32.101.169.107]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA62758 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 06:48:36 GMT Message-ID: <002101becbcd$db16eec0$6ba96520@thinkpad> From: "Donald Mak" To: Subject: Memory Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:47:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01BECBAC.5250E800" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BECBAC.5250E800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How is Kingston memory these days? 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------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BECBAC.5250E800-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 11 02:59:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA15249 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 02:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27748; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 02:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 02:58:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27567; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 02:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.ibm.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27553; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 02:58:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.ibm.net (165.87.194.239 -> out4.ibm.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 02:58:36 -0400 Received: from thinkpad (slip-32-101-169-107.nj.us.ibm.net [32.101.169.107]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA62386; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 06:58:27 GMT Message-ID: <002501becbcf$3bd77f80$6ba96520@thinkpad> From: "Donald Mak" To: "Allan Ballard" Cc: "Thinkpad" References: <199907110231.VAA00639@dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: TP760CD RISC chip Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:57:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: If the system does not have a dedicated "decoder" chip for video (or other features) then the processing is left to the CPU. It does not need to be a faster CPU but it does mean that the processor will have less resources available for other tasks or that if you have concurrent tasks running the video may be choppy. The newer PII chips are much faster and have more instruction sets dedicated to video decoding but a dedicated chip still helps. For a long time the IBM MWave chips were used for MPEG decoding and and as sound cards which helped with 486 and early Pentium systems. Today the newer 'MWave' chips (though much more powerful) are primarily for communications ie. modems. Don > It is still fuzzy to me whether the RISC chip is dedicated > to motion video? -- and if so, are Thinkpad's without this > extra chip dependent on a stronger cpu for motion > video? > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 11 05:00:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA15682 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 05:00:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03120; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 04:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 04:58:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02940; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 04:58:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bradnet.legend.co.uk (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02926; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 04:58:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bradnet.legend.co.uk (194.164.19.39 -> bradnet.legend.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 04:58:47 -0400 Received: by bradnet.legend.co.uk (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.03/2.0) id JAA008.36; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:50:26 +0100 Message-Id: <199907110850.JAA008.36@bradnet.legend.co.uk> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 99 9:50:25 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: [TP600] Running XFree86 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] for OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone successfully set up XFree86 on a TP600? If you have can you let me have a copy of your XF86Config? I'm specifically interested in an OS/2 version of this, although I understand that the Linux version is fairly similar, and only a few paths need changing. Many thanks, -- John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 11 09:44:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA16889 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:44:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01564; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:43:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:42:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01349; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:42:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01335; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:42:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (207.69.200.33 -> smtp3.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:42:18 -0400 Received: from thinkpad1721i (user-33qt87m.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.160.246]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA22298 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:42:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001201becba3$28086860$f6a0aec7@thinkpad1721i> From: "Chuck S." To: Subject: Screen Flicker Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 08:42:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: My 5 month old i1721 screen flickers intermittently in the lower left corner. This usually lasts for about 5 seconds. I'm mostly aware of it when the TP wakes-up after the screen saver has been on. It does not happen after the screen has been on for a couple of minutes. If it gets any worse I will probably send it to EasyServe for repair. Will they have to replace the entire LCD screen? Thanks, Chuck From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 11 09:57:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA16968 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02209; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:56:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02116; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mill.cisco.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02103; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:56:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from mill.cisco.com (161.44.200.11 -> mill.cisco.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:56:04 -0400 Received: from mill.cisco.com (mill.cisco.com [161.44.200.11]) by mill.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA06329; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:55:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:55:59 -0400 (EDT) To: "Chuck S." cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Screen Flicker In-Reply-To: <001201becba3$28086860$f6a0aec7@thinkpad1721i> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Probably not; stuff like this can be something as silly as a loose connector, though there are exceptions. I've seen it go both ways. -Ken On Sun, 11 Jul 1999, Chuck S. wrote: > Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 08:42:00 -0500 > From: "Chuck S." > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Screen Flicker > > My 5 month old i1721 screen flickers intermittently in the lower left > corner. This usually lasts for about 5 seconds. I'm mostly aware of it > when the TP wakes-up after the screen saver has been on. It does not happen > after the screen has been on for a couple of minutes. If it gets any worse > I will probably send it to EasyServe for repair. Will they have to replace > the entire LCD screen? > > Thanks, > Chuck > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 11 11:55:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA17749 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:55:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04789; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:54:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04619; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:54:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilot022.cl.msu.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04606; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:53:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilot022.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.122 -> pilot022.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:53:57 -0400 Received: from andres (pm530-30.dialip.mich.net [35.9.48.232]) by pilot022.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA22038 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:53:54 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990711115402.008fb4d0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:54:02 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Screen Flicker In-Reply-To: <001201becba3$28086860$f6a0aec7@thinkpad1721i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I'll bet they will. One of the unforunate aspects of these TFT displays is that a lot of the control electronics is directly and permenently connected to the back of the display, making it an all-or-nothing kind of proposition when it comes to repairs. In your case, if its litterally a region of the screen it sounds to me like some kind of stabilization problem in the matrix electronics for that area. That it goes away after being on suggests that part of the screen has a voltage deficiency problem, at least from the reading I've done on these displays. I'll bet it gets worse as time goes on and will ultimately fail or spread to a larger part of the screen. I have a i1451 and I *love* this screen. Its a shame that when any part of it goes it ALL goes, but what a wonderful display. My headaches have diminished greatly with this super sharp display. -STeve Andre' andres@pilot.msu.edu At 08:42 AM 7/11/99 -0500, Chuck S. wrote: >My 5 month old i1721 screen flickers intermittently in the lower left >corner. This usually lasts for about 5 seconds. I'm mostly aware of it >when the TP wakes-up after the screen saver has been on. It does not happen >after the screen has been on for a couple of minutes. If it gets any worse >I will probably send it to EasyServe for repair. Will they have to replace >the entire LCD screen? > >Thanks, >Chuck From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 11 11:58:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA17774 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:58:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05199; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:57:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05030; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilot022.cl.msu.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05017; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:57:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilot022.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.122 -> pilot022.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:57:24 -0400 Received: from andres (pm530-30.dialip.mich.net [35.9.48.232]) by pilot022.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA38378 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:57:21 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990711115729.008ff100@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:57:29 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Screen Flicker In-Reply-To: References: <001201becba3$28086860$f6a0aec7@thinkpad1721i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: But if it were a loose connector I'd expect to see the entire screen be strange, not just a region. At least thats in my experience with these displays. Odd line type things that are straight, or weirdness which affects the entire display I've seen be attributed to connectors, but never a region. For Chuck's sake I hope I'm wrong. -STeve Andre' andres@pilot.msu.edu At 09:55 AM 7/11/99 -0400, kend@cisco.com wrote: >Probably not; stuff like this can be something as silly as a loose >connector, though there are exceptions. I've seen it go both ways. > >-Ken > >On Sun, 11 Jul 1999, Chuck S. wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 08:42:00 -0500 >> From: "Chuck S." >> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >> Subject: Screen Flicker >> >> My 5 month old i1721 screen flickers intermittently in the lower left >> corner. This usually lasts for about 5 seconds. I'm mostly aware of it >> when the TP wakes-up after the screen saver has been on. It does not happen >> after the screen has been on for a couple of minutes. If it gets any worse >> I will probably send it to EasyServe for repair. Will they have to replace >> the entire LCD screen? >> >> Thanks, >> Chuck From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 11 14:57:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA18611 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:57:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09509; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:56:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:54:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09249; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:54:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09220; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:54:10 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-232.gate.net [199.227.131.41]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA163958; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:56:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3788E849.6D72104D@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:54:01 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donald Mak CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Memory References: <002101becbcd$db16eec0$6ba96520@thinkpad> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0173D9450A327818ACCCF571" List-Unsubscribe: --------------0173D9450A327818ACCCF571 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kingston has has a very good reputation.. i believe that they were bought by toshiba within the last 18 months.. in any event, they have a lifetime warranty and should be fine for whatever use you intend to put it to.. Donald Mak wrote: > How is Kingston memory these days? I am thinking of adding another > 64 megs and saw a Kingston memory at a good price. Actually, much > lower than other modules. Don -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. --------------0173D9450A327818ACCCF571 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kingston has has a very good reputation..
i believe that they were bought by toshiba within the last 18 months..

in any event, they have a lifetime warranty and should be fine for whatever use you intend to put it to..

Donald Mak wrote:

  How is Kingston memory these days? I am thinking of adding another 64 megs and saw a Kingston memory at a good price. Actually, much lower than other modules. Don
 

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Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a
closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home..
  --------------0173D9450A327818ACCCF571-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 11 15:14:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA18679 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:14:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10127; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:13:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:12:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10049; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:12:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10030; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:12:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:12:37 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-232.gate.net [199.227.131.41]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA412794 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:14:36 -0400 Message-ID: <3788EC9C.FEED2BFE@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:12:28 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: win98 SE on desktop & 770Z & 701(soon) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Well, i have a full version of win98 second edition.. tried loading it over the current win98 preload (on my 770Z and one desktop) and no go.. it invites you to update to the newer version, then later tells you thats a "no-no", "OK?".. makes me want to dismember almost anyone handy, but i'll reserve that emotion for the roast chicken tonight..! :-) Sooo, i did a clean load on one of my drives on the 770Z and, while still under construction, it does seem a bit cleaner and, maybe, a bit faster loading up and running... possibly due to the clean load with only windoze and few add on apps, like softDVD(yet) and RingCentral, etc. i have yet to try this on a 701, but i will, very soon... i sold the really nice 600E-8AU so i can't play with that one until i get another.. (BTW: those 600E's are terrific, only the speakers need work.. sounds like a 760!) -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 11 15:21:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA18722 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:21:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10661; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:20:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:20:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10585; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:20:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10572; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:20:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:20:21 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-232.gate.net [199.227.131.41]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA279510; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:22:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3788EE6A.905C613F@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:20:11 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "STeve Andre'" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Screen Flicker References: <001201becba3$28086860$f6a0aec7@thinkpad1721i> <3.0.6.32.19990711115729.008ff100@pilot.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I agree with STeve.. if its the connector or cable, ez serve MIGHT replace that part or reseat the cable plug to the system board socket, but if its anything else, the whole display will be swapped out and the old one will probably wind up being refurbished.. i have a Philips flat panel display that looses the bottom 1/3 of the display.. slowly washes away into white.. it comes right back with a squeeze on the left edge of the case.. its sad, i paid $3500 for this thing a couple years ago, warranty is over, color is crappy compared to an h/p sitting next to it, and they both fade into insignificance compared to the IBM 16inch displays next to the former two.. i suggest doing SOMETHING before the short one year warranty goes bye-bye.. :-) STeve Andre' wrote: > But if it were a loose connector I'd expect to see the entire screen > be strange, not just a region. At least thats in my experience with > these displays. Odd line type things that are straight, or weirdness > which affects the entire display I've seen be attributed to connectors, > but never a region. For Chuck's sake I hope I'm wrong. > > -STeve Andre' > andres@pilot.msu.edu > > At 09:55 AM 7/11/99 -0400, kend@cisco.com wrote: > >Probably not; stuff like this can be something as silly as a loose > >connector, though there are exceptions. I've seen it go both ways. > > > >-Ken > > > >On Sun, 11 Jul 1999, Chuck S. wrote: > > > >> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 08:42:00 -0500 > >> From: "Chuck S." > >> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > >> Subject: Screen Flicker > >> > >> My 5 month old i1721 screen flickers intermittently in the lower left > >> corner. This usually lasts for about 5 seconds. I'm mostly aware of it > >> when the TP wakes-up after the screen saver has been on. It does not > happen > >> after the screen has been on for a couple of minutes. If it gets any worse > >> I will probably send it to EasyServe for repair. Will they have to replace > >> the entire LCD screen? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Chuck -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 11 19:42:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA20543 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16848; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:25:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16436; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:25:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16422; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:25:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7 -> imo17.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:25:17 -0400 Received: from Wmludlow99@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id sFACa13291 (8028); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:23:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9523a8a0.24ba817b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:23:39 EDT Subject: Re: CASE OF THE NON-BOOTING BUM 701. To: penzance@icanect.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 List-Unsubscribe: I finally got my new 701C to boot. Sounds incredible. Somehow the AC adapter's plug-in had been bent into an oval shape and wasn't connecting.. Got out a pair of small vise grips and proceeded to bend it into approximately a round configuration.. I've been playing with it all afternoon. Still no access without a floppy as shown in the ad I relied upon when I bought the little devil, but I now feel a little better. Yeah, sure this was checked before shipment! BILL LUDLOW From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 12 04:11:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA24036 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 04:11:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20440; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 04:10:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 04:08:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20112; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 04:08:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20091; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 04:08:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (134.102.200.16 -> bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 04:08:20 -0400 Received: from henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (postfix@henker.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.219.172]) by bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA04833 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:08:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from henker-1.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (henker-1.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.217.98]) by henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FFB9104C; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:07:56 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:07:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: Steffan Henke X-Sender: henker@henker-1.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP560 and linux sound? In-Reply-To: <199907101643.LAA01956@europa.veggie.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 10 Jul 1999, Esmail Bonakdarian wrote: > I've got a TP560x running linux on it. I was wondering if anyone has > sound working on one of these? If the 560X has an ESS1688 soundchip, yes. It simply works as a SB-compatible, using OSS/free. Of course it should also work with the commercial sound driver :) > I am currently running 2.0.36 (RH 5.2) on it, but plan to upgrade the > kernel to 2.2.5 (just the kernel and required utils, not RH 6.0 since > their glibc2.1 caused some problems for me) I have it working under an elder Slackware (upgraded to kernel 2.0.37) as wall as under RH 6.0. Regards, Steffan -- ... Our continuing mission: To seek out knowledge of C, to explore strange UNIX commands, and to boldly code where no one has man page 4. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 00:33:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA01474 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:33:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22144; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:31:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22023; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.fn.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22003; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:31:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.fn.net (198.247.1.1 -> wichita.fn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:31:39 -0400 Received: from uxledkvk (fsict-tc23-158.fn.net [198.247.10.158]) by wichita.fn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA12871 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:31:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <00cd01becce8$8181d0c0$9e0af7c6@uxledkvk> From: "Jon W" To: Subject: Re: 770e DVD tv out jack Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:30:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CA_01BECCBE.97DABD20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CA_01BECCBE.97DABD20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got the little OEM IBM cable for the DVD card but I think I need = another JACK to actually physically connect it to my TV input rca jack = ?. I do not have s-video on my video or TV. Do I need another jack or what not to connect it to a home theater = amp in order to get digital surround sound ??? Anyone had this fully setup ?? surround sound and using the DVD video = out ? How was the quality ? Is it in par with the commercial DVD player = ?? thanks again. -----Original Message----- From: Donald Mak To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu ; Jon W = Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 9:29 PM Subject: Re: 770e DVD tv out jack =20 =20 As Bill has already mentioned, you can buy them from his TP site or = >from IBM.=20 You should have received one with the adapter??? Also remember that = if you plan on using the digital audio you will need a second adapter. =20 As for waterfall and other such products, you already have what they = provide. All they do=20 is idle the processor so you conserve energy and reduce heat. Many = people who overclock=20 their systems use this to reduce the heat and hopefully prolong the = life of the CPU.=20 TP's have power saving utilites and you would not gain anything from = using them...I know. =20 If your worried about the heat, at least from the processor, then = don't. As you will notice with time the fan hardly ever comes on. The processor stays within spec and = doesn't really get hot. For a long time=20 I thought it was the processor that made the TP's so hot but it = really is the hard drive and the DC card.=20 =20 Don =20 Hi all, I have the 770e with the enchanced video adapter card = for DVD playback. Where can I buy the JACK that I need in order to = playback DVD movies on my TV set ? I tried radio shack, circuit city, = best buys and other stores but to no avail !! :( =20 Also it seems like my computer automatically loads up = Microsoft find fast and office startup. Are these eating up my computer = resources ?? should I get rid of them ? HOW ??=20 =20 Anyone tried using waterfall pro or rain drop prog to = cool down their CPU ?? is it worth it ??? =20 Thank you all for your help again :) =20 Jon =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00CA_01BECCBE.97DABD20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    I got the little = OEM IBM=20 cable for the DVD card but I think I need another JACK to actually = physically=20 connect it to my TV input rca jack ?. I do not have s-video on my video = or=20 TV.
 
    Do I need=20 another jack or what not to connect it to a home theater amp in order to = get=20 digital surround sound ???
 
Anyone had this fully setup ?? surround sound and = using the=20 DVD video out ? How was the quality ? Is it in par with the commercial = DVD=20 player ??
 
thanks again.
 -----Original=20 Message-----
From: Donald Mak <dvmak@ibm.net>
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu <thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>; Jon = W <jwcm@feist.com>
Date: = Monday,=20 July 12, 1999 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: 770e DVD tv out=20 jack

As Bill has already mentioned, you = can buy them=20 from his TP site or from IBM.
You should have received one with = the=20 adapter??? Also remember that if you plan
on using the digital audio you will = need a=20 second adapter.
 
As for waterfall and other such = products, you=20 already have what they provide. All they do
is idle the processor so you = conserve energy=20 and reduce heat. Many people who overclock
their systems use this to reduce = the heat and=20 hopefully prolong the life of the CPU.
TP's have power saving utilites and = you would=20 not gain anything from using them...I know.
 
If your worried about the heat, at = least from=20 the processor, then don't. As you will notice with time
the fan hardly ever comes on. The = processor=20 stays within spec and doesn't really get hot. For a long time =
I thought it was the processor that = made the=20 TP's so hot but it really is the hard drive and the DC card. =
 
Don
 
Hi all,
        I have the = 770e with=20 the enchanced video adapter card for DVD playback. Where can I = buy the=20 JACK that I need in order to playback DVD movies on my TV set ? = I tried=20 radio shack, circuit city, best buys and other stores but to no = avail !!=20 :(
 
        Also it = seems like my=20 computer automatically loads up Microsoft find fast and office = startup.=20 Are these eating up my computer resources ?? should I get rid of = them ?=20 HOW ??
 
        Anyone tried = using=20 waterfall pro or rain drop prog to cool down their CPU ?? is it = worth it=20 ???
 
Thank you all for your help again = :)
 
Jon
 
------=_NextPart_000_00CA_01BECCBE.97DABD20-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 01:10:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA02957 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:10:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19770; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:55:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:54:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19590; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from europa.veggie.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19576; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:54:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from europa.veggie.com (128.255.63.229 -> gauguin.weeg.uiowa.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:54:39 -0400 Received: (from bonak@localhost) by europa.veggie.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA06199; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:55:43 -0500 From: Esmail Bonakdarian Message-Id: <199907130355.WAA06199@europa.veggie.com> Subject: TP560 and linux sound? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, henker@informatik.uni-bremen.de Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:55:43 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: esmail@uiowa.edu Reply-To: Esmail Bonakdarian Content-Type: text List-Unsubscribe: Gruess Dich Steffan, > > I've got a TP560x running linux on it. I was wondering if anyone has > > sound working on one of these? > If the 560X has an ESS1688 soundchip, yes. It simply works as a > SB-compatible, using OSS/free. Of course it should also work with the > commercial sound driver :) Well, time to dig out the specs (or boot into Windows) and find out what type of soundchip I have. This does sound encouraging, for some reason I had the impression that this would be very problematic. Hopefully not. Thanks & Tschuess, Esmail ---- Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak v.e. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 01:10:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA02961 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:10:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21327; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:19:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:18:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21191; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:18:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.ibm.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21153; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:18:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.ibm.net (165.87.194.229 -> out2.ibm.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:18:14 -0400 Received: from oscar (slip-32-100-143-208.co.us.ibm.net [32.100.143.208]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA200210; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 04:18:01 GMT Message-ID: <001701becce6$b6c28ba0$d08f6420@oscar> Reply-To: "Tom Franklin" From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Steven Filling" Cc: "ThinkPad List" References: Subject: Re: micro warehouse offer Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:17:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: I ordered some of the Thinkpad 560 batteries on Thursday without problems. They start out asking you for a part number. Since I wanted the 560 battery, I replied: AA1520 Next they asked quantity, etc. They also ask you the source code. To which I replied: P95x20 It was as simple as that. The only thing I can't figure out since I never got the flyer is what the "Mailer Code" is. The mailer code is required to fill out the rebate form. I presume it is the same as the "Source Code", but could someone with the flyer please confirm the same. I don't want to loose my rebate on a technicality. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Filling To: Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 7:50 PM Subject: micro warehouse offer I'm pretty sure that's not what is in the flyer I received, and equally sure that's not the experience some of you had. If you managed to get MW to sell you those accessories at the prices they advertise would you email me what exactly you said to them? I'd really appreciate some idea on what I'm not phrasing correctly. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 01:15:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA03059 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:15:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14421; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:48:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:47:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14273; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from samsara.csustan.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14247; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:47:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from samsara.csustan.edu (130.17.4.254 -> samsara.csustan.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:47:30 -0400 Received: (from steven@localhost) by samsara.csustan.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA23887 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:50:22 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Steven Filling Sender: steven@samsara.csustan.edu From: Steven Filling To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: micro warehouse offer List-Unsubscribe: All - I've seen quite a bit of traffic about the micro warehouse offer on thinkpa= d accessories [e.g., $24.95 for 560 batteries and $19.95 for 56W adapters]. = I finally got that brochure in the mail today, and immediately called MW to o= rder some. Sadly, the story I got from the sales staff and level 1 management i= s that "those prices are only good with purchase of a laptop." I'm pretty sure that's not what is in the flyer I received, and equally sur= e that's not the experience some of you had. If you managed to get MW to sel= l you those accessories at the prices they advertise would you email me what exactly you said to them? I'd really appreciate some idea on what I'm not phrasing correctly. TIA S. ---------------------------------- Steven Filling E-Mail: steven@panopticon.csustan.edu Date: 12-Jul-99 Time: 18:45:48 ---------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 01:15:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA03068 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15343; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:02:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15172; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15158; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:02:03 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-298.gate.net [199.227.131.107]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA317544; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:01:58 -0400 Message-ID: <378A9E11.ADD17A57@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:01:53 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon W CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770e DVD tv out jack References: <005401beccbb$5b7fb7c0$d406f7c6@uxledkvk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------A5CCA1621F83FB7BAC6F5DEF" List-Unsubscribe: --------------A5CCA1621F83FB7BAC6F5DEF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jon.. Jon W wrote: > Hi all, I have the 770e with the enchanced video adapter card > for DVD playback. Where can I buy the JACK that I need in order to > playback DVD movies on my TV set ? I tried radio shack, circuit city, > best buys and other stores but to no avail !! :( > > IBM has them at $35.. > i MAY have a spare.. $30.. Also it seems like my computer > automatically loads up Microsoft find fast and office startup. Are > these eating up my computer resources ?? should I get rid of them ? > HOW ?? > > YES.. i think its in the startup group.. > just delete it from there > > Anyone tried using waterfall pro or rain drop prog to cool > down their CPU ?? is it worth it ??? > nope.. > never heard of these.. > > Thank you all for your help again :) Jon -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. --------------A5CCA1621F83FB7BAC6F5DEF Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jon..

Jon W wrote:

 Hi all,        I have the 770e with the enchanced video adapter card for DVD playback. Where can I buy the JACK that I need in order to playback DVD movies on my TV set ? I tried radio shack, circuit city, best buys and other stores but to no avail !! :(

IBM has them at $35..
i MAY have a spare.. $30..         Also it seems like my computer automatically loads up Microsoft find fast and office startup. Are these eating up my computer resources ?? should I get rid of them ? HOW ??

YES.. i think its in the startup group..
just delete it from there

         Anyone tried using waterfall pro or rain drop prog to cool down their CPU ?? is it worth it ??? 
nope..
never heard of these..
 
 Thank you all for your help again :) Jon 

 

--
Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
WEB page http://thinkpads.com
Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html
Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop
e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net
770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al...

Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a
closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home..
  --------------A5CCA1621F83FB7BAC6F5DEF-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 01:15:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA03078 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:15:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16632; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:30:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:29:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16473; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:29:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16455; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (165.87.194.252 -> out1.ibm.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:29:04 -0400 Received: from thinkpad (slip166-72-104-78.nj.us.ibm.net [166.72.104.78]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA62834; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 02:28:58 GMT Message-ID: <001501becd3b$eab13880$4e6848a6@thinkpad> From: "Donald Mak" To: , "Jon W" References: <005401beccbb$5b7fb7c0$d406f7c6@uxledkvk> Subject: Re: 770e DVD tv out jack Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:27:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BECD1A.5B350E00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BECD1A.5B350E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As Bill has already mentioned, you can buy them from his TP site or from = IBM.=20 You should have received one with the adapter??? Also remember that if = you plan on using the digital audio you will need a second adapter. As for waterfall and other such products, you already have what they = provide. All they do=20 is idle the processor so you conserve energy and reduce heat. Many = people who overclock=20 their systems use this to reduce the heat and hopefully prolong the life = of the CPU.=20 TP's have power saving utilites and you would not gain anything from = using them...I know. If your worried about the heat, at least from the processor, then don't. = As you will notice with time the fan hardly ever comes on. The processor stays within spec and = doesn't really get hot. For a long time=20 I thought it was the processor that made the TP's so hot but it really = is the hard drive and the DC card.=20 Don Hi all, I have the 770e with the enchanced video adapter card for DVD = playback. Where can I buy the JACK that I need in order to playback DVD = movies on my TV set ? I tried radio shack, circuit city, best buys and = other stores but to no avail !! :( =20 Also it seems like my computer automatically loads up = Microsoft find fast and office startup. Are these eating up my computer = resources ?? should I get rid of them ? HOW ??=20 =20 Anyone tried using waterfall pro or rain drop prog to cool = down their CPU ?? is it worth it ??? =20 Thank you all for your help again :) =20 Jon =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BECD1A.5B350E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As Bill has already mentioned, you can = buy them=20 >from his TP site or from IBM.
You should have received one with the = adapter???=20 Also remember that if you plan
on using the digital audio you will = need a second=20 adapter.
 
As for waterfall and other such = products, you=20 already have what they provide. All they do
is idle the processor so you conserve = energy and=20 reduce heat. Many people who overclock
their systems use this to reduce the = heat and=20 hopefully prolong the life of the CPU.
TP's have power saving utilites and you = would not=20 gain anything from using them...I know.
 
If your worried about the heat, at = least from the=20 processor, then don't. As you will notice with time
the fan hardly ever comes on. The = processor stays=20 within spec and doesn't really get hot. For a long time
I thought it was the processor that = made the TP's=20 so hot but it really is the hard drive and the DC card.
 
Don
 
Hi all,
        I=20 have the 770e with the enchanced video adapter card for DVD playback. = Where=20 can I buy the JACK that I need in order to playback DVD movies on my = TV set ?=20 I tried radio shack, circuit city, best buys and other stores but to = no avail=20 !! :(
 
       =20 Also it seems like my computer automatically loads up Microsoft find = fast and=20 office startup. Are these eating up my computer resources ?? should I = get rid=20 of them ? HOW ??
 
       =20 Anyone tried using waterfall pro or rain drop prog to cool down their = CPU ??=20 is it worth it ???
 
Thank you all for your help again :)
 
Jon
 
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BECD1A.5B350E00-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 01:28:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA03430 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:28:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09101; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:19:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:19:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08997; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kepler.pa.msu.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08973; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kepler.pa.msu.edu (35.8.48.107 -> kepler.pa.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:18:59 -0400 Received: from pa.msu.edu (senna.pa.msu.edu [35.8.50.35]) by kepler.pa.msu.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA08668; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:18:56 -0400 (EDT) Sender: rockwell@pa.msu.edu Message-ID: <378A77B6.E8D51320@pa.msu.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:18:14 -0400 From: Tom Rockwell Organization: MSUHEP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.9 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: One more time on the Thinkpad Options flyer from Microwarehouse. I got the flyer in the mail today. It seems that all the items #'s/prices in the flyer are the same as on the web site - save the $25 560 battery (flyer item #aa1520). I did notice that the 570 ultrabase has a different part number than on the web site, but the prices are the same. Most of the prices on the flyer are after a $25 rebate from microwarehouse. The $20 power adapter evidently carries a $25 IBM and a $25 warehouse rebate; it's real price is $70, same as on the web site. So there's no big mystery about the flyer - most of the prices/item numbers are the same as at http://warehouse.com/ibmopmail. The one special price is the 560 battery (obviously a closeout item now). If you order, they may want the flyer "Source Code", it's p95x20 (as other's have posted previously). I just ordered 2 batteries and a power adapter. $600 total original retail for $70. Happy Happy Joy Joy :-) Tom From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 01:28:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA03434 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:28:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08476; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:09:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:08:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08227; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.fn.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08214; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:08:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.fn.net (198.247.1.1 -> wichita.fn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:08:27 -0400 Received: from uxledkvk (fsict-tc10-12.fn.net [198.247.6.212]) by wichita.fn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA03660 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:08:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <005401beccbb$5b7fb7c0$d406f7c6@uxledkvk> From: "Jon W" To: Subject: 770e DVD tv out jack Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:07:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0051_01BECC91.6ECCEAC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01BECC91.6ECCEAC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I have the 770e with the enchanced video adapter card for DVD = playback. Where can I buy the JACK that I need in order to playback DVD = movies on my TV set ? I tried radio shack, circuit city, best buys and = other stores but to no avail !! :( Also it seems like my computer automatically loads up Microsoft = find fast and office startup. Are these eating up my computer resources = ?? should I get rid of them ? HOW ??=20 Anyone tried using waterfall pro or rain drop prog to cool down = their CPU ?? is it worth it ??? Thank you all for your help again :) Jon ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01BECC91.6ECCEAC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
        I=20 have the 770e with the enchanced video adapter card for DVD playback. = Where can=20 I buy the JACK that I need in order to playback DVD movies on my TV set = ? I=20 tried radio shack, circuit city, best buys and other stores but to no = avail !!=20 :(
 
        Also=20 it seems like my computer automatically loads up Microsoft find fast and = office=20 startup. Are these eating up my computer resources ?? should I get rid = of them ?=20 HOW ??
 
       =20 Anyone tried using waterfall pro or rain drop prog to cool down their = CPU ?? is=20 it worth it ???
 
Thank you all for your help again :)
 
Jon
 
------=_NextPart_000_0051_01BECC91.6ECCEAC0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 01:28:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA03438 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:28:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02877; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:58:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:58:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02729; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02716; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:57:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (192.160.127.90 -> Kitten.mcs.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:57:58 -0400 Received: from heiby.pr.mcs.net (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id PAA06323 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:57:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:57:48 -0500 From: "Ronald W. Heiby" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.34a) S/N 514531BD / Personal Reply-To: "Ronald W. Heiby" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <0665.990712@falkor.chi.il.us> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re[2]: Memory In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Monday, July 12, 1999, 12:54:02 PM, Roberta wrote: RJL> Can you tell me where you found the good price? I've been told RJL> by IBM to only use Kingston or IBM memory in a 755C Thinkpad, RJL> On Sun, 11 Jul 1999, Donald Mak wrote: >> How is Kingston memory these days? I am thinking of adding >> another 64 megs and saw a Kingston memory at a good price. I don't know if Roberta or Donald are planning on adding 64Meg to a 755C, but it had been my impression that the max was a 32Meg addition to the internal 4Meg. BTW, I have a 16Meg Kingston RAM card I used successfully in both my 750C and my 755CE that is available. Price is either: 1) US$75 or 2) provide a URL showing the price of a comparable (name brand) and available (in-stock) 16Meg RAM Card for the TP75x and pay 2/3 of that price. Email me off-list if interested. Ron. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: Digital signature added to verify authorship and content. iQA/AwUBN4pWw28pw+2/9pUJEQKnFACfcJxmOBrJqVhoaupE+lIswUtzfogAoKbv Ih0lM5CZSGukiURh1Zqq00Tz =f6A4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 01:29:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA03442 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:29:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26237; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:20:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:17:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25771; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:17:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhuml2.hcf.jhu.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25756; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhuml2.hcf.jhu.edu (128.220.2.87 -> jhuml2.hcf.jhu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:17:31 -0400 Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu [128.220.2.5]) by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V5.2-29 #37929) with ESMTP id <01JDHCIO6JI8F5MX45@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:17:23 EDT Received: (from thood@localhost) by jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA78846 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:17:16 -0400 (EDT) From: thood@jhu.edu (J.d.thomas Hood) Subject: tpctl -- a ThinkPad configuration tool for Linux To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <199907121917.PAA78846@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Announcing tpctl -- a ThinkPad configuration tool for Linux. It does some of the things under Linux that PS2.EXE does under DOS and the ThinkPad Configuration program does under Windows. More information at http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~thood/tpctlhome.htm -- Thomas Hood thood@jhu.edu P.S. FYI I have a "Linux on a ThinkPad 600" page: http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~thood/tp600lnx.htm From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 01:29:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA03447 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:29:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20810; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:55:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:54:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20540; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:54:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pavo.U.Arizona.EDU (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20491; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pavo.U.Arizona.EDU (128.196.137.195 -> pavo-1.U.Arizona.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:54:10 -0400 Received: from localhost (rlippse@localhost) by pavo.U.Arizona.EDU (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA06506; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:54:02 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:54:02 -0700 (MST) From: Roberta J Lippse To: Donald Mak cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Memory In-Reply-To: <002101becbcd$db16eec0$6ba96520@thinkpad> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Can you tell me where you found the good price? I've been told by IBM to only use Kingston or IBM memory in a 755C Thinkpad, so I'm out looking too. Respectfully, Roberta On Sun, 11 Jul 1999, Donald Mak wrote: > How is Kingston memory these days? I am thinking of adding another 64 megs and saw a Kingston memory at a good price. Actually, much lower than other modules. > > Don > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 08:59:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA05965 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:59:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16121; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:57:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15980; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:57:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.zbzoom.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15967; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.zbzoom.net (208.236.36.3 -> ns1.zbzoom.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:57:37 -0400 Received: from tomscomputer (lco32.zbzoom.net [208.236.39.32]) by ns1.zbzoom.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id IAA00492 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:57:05 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Thomas A. Jones" To: Subject: USB at Boot Up Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:57:05 -0400 Message-ID: <000401becd2f$36406760$2027ecd0@zbzoom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Have a TP 770Z. When USB device is plugged in prior to boot up, it is not recognized after boot up. If un plug & replug after boot up it becomes recognized. Any ideas on how to get it recognized on boot up? Tom Jones From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 11:13:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07050 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:13:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17288; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:09:32 -0400 Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17025; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:09:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (128.169.92.76 -> VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:09:30 -0400 Received: (from judi@localhost) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id JAA27482 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16241; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:23:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.3 -> dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:23:31 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA29509; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:23:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907130223.VAA29509@dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga4-56.ix.netcom.com(207.222.234.248) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma029481; Mon Jul 12 21:23:02 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "John Black @ airmail.net" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:23:46 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <005b01bec9b7$d38d3f00$04000005@jbdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP 760CD Hibernation file List-Unsubscribe: John, I *think* I tried 65mil colors (?) and it was Ok, but slow, using the cyber driver. Is memory mappable? Isn't there somesuch mapping info in the back of the manual? It is over my head so I have not studied it. I do think the 8Mb chip is a factor in many of the attempts to go to 64Mb. Not sure what is going on but it just seems to be at the center of things. The guys at Viking memory are on top of this issue. They told me that they had worked with IBM to get their design right. Even offered to send me some engineering specs. If you understand such techincal detail, please do give them a call and translate for us folks who are not involved with memory at that level of detail. I remember the EZ serve guys giving me the dickens over use of 64Mb, and then suddenly making it work without comment. Go figure. Allan Ballard On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:04:54 -0500, John Black @ airmail.net wrote: >Allan, > >I also have a 760CD and have noticed some things don't work correctly when >you get above the 48meg line. Don't know if it is still a problem, but, the >most annoying thing I have found is that the video driver will not work if >you go above 256 colors; this is a real problem........ > >As near as I can tell, it has to do with the fact that the 8m on the mother >board automatically gets mapped out.. I think part of the operating system >is still looking for a memory location in that 8m. > >John > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Allan Ballard >To: Thinkpad >Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 7:59 PM >Subject: TP 760CD Hibernation file > > >>Since installing 64Mb RAM in my 760CD, the Hibernation File >>won't work. It will Suspend, but not Hibernate. >> >>Since it will Hibernate with 40MB RAM, is the problem with >>the hibernation application? Is it maybe written to only build >>a file of a certain size (and smaller than 64MB)? >> >>I have used the PS commands to delete and try to rebuild to >>no avail. >> >>Any input would be appreciated. >> >>Allan Ballard >> TP760CD p120 64Mb 3.0 gig >> >> > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 13:43:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA08594 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:43:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02038; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:42:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:41:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01761; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01740; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:41:08 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-117.gate.net [199.227.20.180]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA319858; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:40:54 -0400 Message-ID: <378B7A20.6641189F@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:40:48 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon W CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770e DVD tv out jack References: <00cd01becce8$8181d0c0$9e0af7c6@uxledkvk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D2D5DA5F4E3AE92FBBFC33A5" List-Unsubscribe: --------------D2D5DA5F4E3AE92FBBFC33A5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jon... ohh, is what you want the stereo output or the dolby output located on the adapter card..?? if the former, go to radio shack and get a jack for the stereo out female jack.. if the latter, you'll need an S-video cable to your dolby digital thing and another video cable (IBM only supplies one, they USED to supply two, looong ago) to connect to the dolby out socket.. in any case, you need more than originally supplied.. including, but not limited to, a manual that explains this.. (above comment made withOUT reading the f.. uhh fine (770X/Z) manual..) Jon W wrote: > I got the little OEM IBM cable for the DVD card but I think I > need another JACK to actually physically connect it to my TV input rca > jack ?. I do not have s-video on my video or TV. Do I need another > jack or what not to connect it to a home theater amp in order to get > digital surround sound ??? Anyone had this fully setup ?? surround > sound and using the DVD video out ? How was the quality ? Is it in par > with the commercial DVD player ?? thanks again. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donald Mak > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu ; Jon W > > Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 9:29 PM > Subject: Re: 770e DVD tv out jackAs Bill has already > mentioned, you can buy them from his TP site or from IBM.You > should have received one with the adapter??? Also remember > that if you planon using the digital audio you will need a > second adapter. As for waterfall and other such products, > you already have what they provide. All they dois idle the > processor so you conserve energy and reduce heat. Many > people who overclocktheir systems use this to reduce the > heat and hopefully prolong the life of the CPU.TP's have > power saving utilites and you would not gain anything from > using them...I know. If your worried about the heat, at > least from the processor, then don't. As you will notice > with timethe fan hardly ever comes on. The processor stays > within spec and doesn't really get hot. For a long timeI > thought it was the processor that made the TP's so hot but > it really is the hard drive and the DC card. Don > > Hi all, I have the 770e with the enchanced > video adapter card for DVD playback. Where can I > buy the JACK that I need in order to playback DVD > movies on my TV set ? I tried radio shack, circuit > city, best buys and other stores but to no avail > !! :( Also it seems like my computer > automatically loads up Microsoft find fast and > office startup. Are these eating up my computer > resources ?? should I get rid of them ? HOW > ?? Anyone tried using waterfall pro or > rain drop prog to cool down their CPU ?? is it > worth it ??? Thank you all for your help again > :) Jon > -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. --------------D2D5DA5F4E3AE92FBBFC33A5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jon...

ohh, is what you want the stereo output or the dolby output located on the adapter card..??

if the former, go to radio shack and get a jack for the stereo out female jack..
if the latter, you'll need an S-video cable to your dolby digital thing and another video cable (IBM only supplies one, they USED to supply two, looong ago) to connect to the dolby out socket..

in any case, you need more than originally supplied.. including, but not limited to, a manual that explains this..
(above comment made withOUT reading the f.. uhh fine (770X/Z) manual..)

Jon W wrote:

      I got the little OEM IBM cable for the DVD card but I think I need another JACK to actually physically connect it to my TV input rca jack ?. I do not have s-video on my video or TV.     Do I need another jack or what not to connect it to a home theater amp in order to get digital surround sound ??? Anyone had this fully setup ?? surround sound and using the DVD video out ? How was the quality ? Is it in par with the commercial DVD player ?? thanks again.
 -----Original Message-----
From: Donald Mak <dvmak@ibm.net>
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu <thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>; Jon W <jwcm@feist.com>
Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: 770e DVD tv out jackAs Bill has already mentioned, you can buy them from his TP site or from IBM.You should have received one with the adapter??? Also remember that if you planon using the digital audio you will need a second adapter. As for waterfall and other such products, you already have what they provide. All they dois idle the processor so you conserve energy and reduce heat. Many people who overclocktheir systems use this to reduce the heat and hopefully prolong the life of the CPU.TP's have power saving utilites and you would not gain anything from using them...I know. If your worried about the heat, at least from the processor, then don't. As you will notice with timethe fan hardly ever comes on. The processor stays within spec and doesn't really get hot. For a long timeI thought it was the processor that made the TP's so hot but it really is the hard drive and the DC card. Don
 Hi all,        I have the 770e with the enchanced video adapter card for DVD playback. Where can I buy the JACK that I need in order to playback DVD movies on my TV set ? I tried radio shack, circuit city, best buys and other stores but to no avail !! :(         Also it seems like my computer automatically loads up Microsoft find fast and office startup. Are these eating up my computer resources ?? should I get rid of them ? HOW ??         Anyone tried using waterfall pro or rain drop prog to cool down their CPU ?? is it worth it ??? Thank you all for your help again :) Jon 
 

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Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html
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770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al...

Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a
closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home..
  --------------D2D5DA5F4E3AE92FBBFC33A5-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 14:46:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA09152 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07048; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:44:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06845; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:44:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06811; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (128.169.92.76 -> VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:44:25 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) with SMTP id OAA06814 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:44:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907131844.OAA06814@vixen.cs.utk.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: vixen.cs.utk.edu: LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: very primitive archive available Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:44:22 -0400 From: Judi Theg Talley List-Unsubscribe: Greetings! I've put together an archive site of all the thinkpad digests since Dec 9, 1997 (my first digest) at ftp://cs.utk.edu/pub/judi/thinkpad-archive Structure is tp sub-directories with each digest in a file named for the date it was "for." This should close the gap on the archives now, and sometime in the future, in my COPIOUS free time, I'll convert them to some real archive format. For now, I hope this helps. Enjoy! Judi -- Judi Theg Talley http://www.cs.utk.edu/~judi/ There are no good system administrators, merely temporarily satisfied users. --Tim Martin From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 17:17:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA11123 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:17:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16094; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:16:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:14:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15951; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:14:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15936; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:14:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.217.152 -> ah-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:14:41 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.1) id RAA03242 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.1) with SMTP id RAA03156 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:14:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907132114.RAA03156@hpamraaa.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:14:47 -0400 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: CrossPad w/TP600? List-Unsubscribe: Hello! Has anyone used either of the CrossPad electronic pads? I prefer writing on a letter-size pad, but the 10x14" CrossPad size seems pretty big (bigger than my 600!). Are they awkward to use? Does the thickness cause trouble? Any comments or suggestions welcome! Thanks! andrew ------ my local weather today: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 17:33:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA11307 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:33:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17163; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:32:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17080; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:32:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17066; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:32:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.206.132 -> dh-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:32:40 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.1) id RAA13986 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:32:38 -0400 (EDT) Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.1) with SMTP id RAA13822 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:32:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907132132.RAA13822@hpdmraaa.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:35:00 -0400 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Nomad w/TP600? List-Unsubscribe: Hello! I'm also looking at the Creative Labs Nomad as a replacement for my ancient (1983) walkman. I like the Nomad (over the Rio, for instance) because it has an FM tuner. Their site also says the Nomad's cradle has to be used for all downloading/uploading (it doubles as a digital recorder). This could be a real pain if I travel with it. (Okay so it's only about 4x6x2", the Nomad itself is about 3x2x0.75"). Has anyone used the Nomad yet? I don't imagine I'd have any trouble with the connection (parallel). Advice on the Nomad and other mp3 players in general would also be appreciated. Thanks! andrew ------ my local weather today: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 22:24:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA14021 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28247; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:23:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:22:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28070; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:22:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28056; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:22:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (216.32.181.49 -> law2-f49.hotmail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:22:30 -0400 Received: (qmail 52500 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jul 1999 02:22:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990714022222.52499.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.244.90.36 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:22:22 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.244.90.36] From: "J Ripple" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: REMOVE Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:22:22 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM YOUR MAILING LIST RIPPLE@HOTMAIL.COM _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 22:37:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA14186 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29019; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:36:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:35:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28938; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:35:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28906; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:35:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (216.32.181.96 -> law2-f96.hotmail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:35:49 -0400 Received: (qmail 59584 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jul 1999 02:35:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990714023546.59583.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.244.90.36 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:35:46 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.244.90.36] From: "J Ripple" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: how do you get REMOVED from this mailing list??? Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:35:46 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: please how do you get removed from this mailing list??? >From: "J Ripple" >To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: REMOVE >Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:22:22 PDT > >PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM YOUR MAILING LIST >RIPPLE@HOTMAIL.COM > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 13 22:49:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA14292 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29853; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:49:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:48:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29749; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:48:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29735; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:48:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (216.32.181.99 -> law2-f99.hotmail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:48:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 17104 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jul 1999 02:48:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990714024815.17103.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.244.90.36 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:48:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.244.90.36] From: "J Ripple" To: kress@u.washington.edu Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: how do you get REMOVED from this mailing list??? Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:48:12 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: it would have been more help... if you had actually told me what to do... you see this is hotmail.... not real email and i dont know how to display the entire header.... in the msg that i get here.... it says nothing about anything about getting removed from the mailing list. Can anyone offer some real help please? Thanks in advance >From: "Victor Kress" >Reply-To: "Victor Kress" >To: "J Ripple" >Subject: Re: how do you get REMOVED from this mailing list??? >Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:39:45 +0000 > >Read the header. > >On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:35:46 PDT, J Ripple wrote: > > >please how do you get removed from this mailing list??? > > > > > >>From: "J Ripple" > >>To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > >>Subject: REMOVE > >>Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:22:22 PDT > >> > >>PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM YOUR MAILING LIST > >>RIPPLE@HOTMAIL.COM > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________________________ > >>Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > > > > >_______________________________________________________________ > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > >________________________________ >Victor Kress >Geological Sciences >Box 351310 >University of Washington >Seattle, Washington >98195-1310 > >(206)616-8512 >kress@u.washington.edu > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 14 09:07:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA17802 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:07:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27829; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:06:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:04:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27559; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:04:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27546; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:04:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (147.225.51.39 -> mosquito.ny.ans.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:04:27 -0400 Received: from localhost (bkomar@localhost) by mosquito.ny.ans.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id JAA13514; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:04:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mosquito.ny.ans.net: bkomar owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:04:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Komar X-Sender: bkomar@mosquito.ny.ans.net To: J Ripple cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: REMOVE In-Reply-To: <19990714022222.52499.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, J Ripple wrote: > PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM YOUR MAILING LIST > RIPPLE@HOTMAIL.COM > To unsubscribe you must: mailto:thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu Subject=unsubscribe> Have a good day... Bruce Komar From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 15 00:28:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA26404 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11666; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:27:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:26:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11455; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:26:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.i1.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11441; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:25:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.i1.net (207.230.32.4 -> mail1.i1.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:25:56 -0400 Received: from oma.com (pm3-1stl125.xtraport.net [207.230.58.125]) by mail1.i1.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA19603 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 23:43:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <378D62C2.EB933873@oma.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 23:25:38 -0500 From: Brian Button Organization: Object Mentor, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: [770X] Advice before doing full system rebuild? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Any advice or caveats anyone has out there before I do a full system rebuild using the System Recovery disk of that abomination that is Windows 98? I have three partitions on the disk now, C and D like it was originally set up, but I shrunk D by 2 gig and stuck Linux on the top part of the drive. Will the recovery disk wipe out the whole thing and just load a new disk image on top of the hard drive, or is the Linux partition safe? I also converted the C partition to FAT32 -- is that going to bite me now? And most importantly, does anyone have any simple remedy for mprexe causing crashes in kernel32.dll? That's the problem I'm seeing whenever I install new software (which I have to do regularly for my job). I search the MS KB and came up with removing the PWL files, but that didn't work. Sigh. At least I have a full system backup... bab -- Brian Button bbutton@oma.com Senior Consultant Object Mentor, Inc. Products Review Editor C++ Report Magazine From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 15 01:21:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA26775 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:21:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13138; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:20:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:19:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13056; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:19:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13035; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:19:45 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-118.gate.net [207.36.212.118]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA32980; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:19:37 -0400 Message-ID: <378D6F64.3099214F@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:19:32 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Button CC: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: [770X] Advice before doing full system rebuild? References: <378D62C2.EB933873@oma.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Brian.. the recovery disc will offer you the option of only recovering the "C:" partition or the whole drive.. to the original IBM scheme.. take the offer..! for the "C:" partition only.. make sure its fat16 or you might (stress might) have some slight difficulty to deal with.. like the recovery utility not seeing the fat32 partition.. note: the recovery information is really just one huge ZIP file.. the older recovery CD's did not like, and probably still don't like, fat32.. what I do, is make a initialized image of the virgin OS, then boot using another HDD as the boot device and copy the whole d... thing to a networked drive.. that way its easier to recover, AND i can recover it to a fat32 partition of ANY d... size i want.. :-) in short, it should leave D: and linux partitions alone if you select the "C:" only recovery option.. and what are ".PWL" files..?? :-) Brian Button wrote: > Any advice or caveats anyone has out there before I do a full system > rebuild using the System Recovery disk of that abomination that is > Windows 98? I have three partitions on the disk now, C and D like it was > originally set up, but I shrunk D by 2 gig and stuck Linux on the top > part of the drive. Will the recovery disk wipe out the whole thing and > just load a new disk image on top of the hard drive, or is the Linux > partition safe? I also converted the C partition to FAT32 -- is that > going to bite me now? > > And most importantly, does anyone have any simple remedy for mprexe > causing crashes in kernel32.dll? That's the problem I'm seeing whenever > I install new software (which I have to do regularly for my job). I > search the MS KB and came up with removing the PWL files, but that > didn't work. > > Sigh. At least I have a full system backup... > > bab > -- > Brian Button bbutton@oma.com > Senior Consultant Object Mentor, Inc. > Products Review Editor C++ Report Magazine -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 15 02:39:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA27329 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 02:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15468; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 02:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 02:38:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15365; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 02:38:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15352; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 02:38:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (24.112.32.20 -> smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 02:38:18 -0400 Received: from mail.on.rogers.wave.ca ([24.112.32.4]:47367 "EHLO mail.on.rogers.wave.ca" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <512684-29264>; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 02:36:42 -0400 Received: from cr394328-a.rchrd1.on.wave.home.com ([24.112.93.189]:3720 "HELO actprod" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mail.on.rogers.wave.ca with SMTP id <324696-299>; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 02:37:35 -0400 From: "Tom Trottier" Organization: ACT Productions Inc., 199-K1S 2P3, Ottawa To: thood@jhu.edu (J.d.thomas Hood), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 02:37:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: tpctl -- a ThinkPad configuration tool for Linux Reply-to: tom@act.ca Priority: urgent In-reply-to: <199907121917.PAA78846@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-Id: <19990715063745Z324696-299+55@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> List-Unsubscribe: Hi, JD. PS2 works on the TP701. Would this work on the 701? 340? Tom On 12 Jul 99, at 15:17, J.d.thomas Hood wrote: > Announcing tpctl -- a ThinkPad configuration tool for Linux. > > It does some of the things under Linux that PS2.EXE does under DOS > and the ThinkPad Configuration program does under Windows. > > More information at http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~thood/tpctlhome.htm > > -- > Thomas Hood thood@jhu.edu > P.S. FYI I have a "Linux on a ThinkPad 600" page: > http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~thood/tp600lnx.htm ------------------ From: Tom Trottier, President, ACT Productions Inc. infoanim@act.ca http://www.act.ca +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 2P3 "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 15 09:36:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA29288 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07290; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:34:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:33:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07144; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:33:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07092; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:32:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (132.230.150.1 -> avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:33:08 -0400 Received: from asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.167.101]) by avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA09224; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:31:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from utcke@localhost) by asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) id PAA10897; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:31:01 +0200 (MDT) Message-Id: <199907151331.PAA10897@asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: TP560 and linux sound? In-Reply-To: <199907130355.WAA06199@europa.veggie.com> from Esmail Bonakdarian at "Jul 12, 99 10:55:43 pm" To: esmail@uiowa.edu Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:31:01 +0200 (MDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: sven.utcke@gmx.de (Sven Utcke) Reply-to: sven.utcke@gmx.de (Sven Utcke) Phone: +49-(0)761-203-8274 Fax: +49-(0)761-203-8262 Address: Albert-Ludwigs-Universitaet Freiburg, Institut fuer Informatik Address: Lehrstuhl fuer Mustererkennung und Bildverarbeitung X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello Esmail, > > > I've got a TP560x running linux on it. I was wondering if anyone has > > > sound working on one of these? > > > If the 560X has an ESS1688 soundchip, yes. It simply works as a > > SB-compatible, using OSS/free. Of course it should also work with the > > commercial sound driver :) > > Well, time to dig out the specs (or boot into Windows) and find out > what type of soundchip I have. Nah, not necessary. You just install OSS and it will tell you what chip you got and whether it will work (after warning you not to use that feature :-). OSS is really incredibly simple. Only if OSS does not find anything would it be time to figure out a) what hardware you got b) if there is a driver available (there is no driver for mwave). If there is, you can either wait for it to be released for free by OSS, or buy it for a few bucks --- dealing with the guys from 4front was a pleasure the one time I had to purchase a driver (for AIX) http://www.4Front-Tech.com/ > This does sound encouraging, for some reason I had the impression > that this would be very problematic. Hopefully not. Not at all --- it either works out of the box, or not at all... Sven -- _ _ _____ Artificial Intelligence Unit | | | |/ /_ _| University of Hamburg | |__| ' < | | phone: +49 (0)40 42883-2576 Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30 |____|_|\_\___| fax : +49 (0)40 42883-2572 D-22527 Hamburg mailto:utcke@informatik.uni-freiburg.de www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~utcke From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 15 09:49:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA29389 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08248; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:48:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:48:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08140; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:48:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rattler.gtfc.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08116; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:47:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rattler.gtfc.com (206.146.7.2 -> rattler.gtfc.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:47:54 -0400 Received: from rattler.gtfc.com (root@localhost) by rattler.gtfc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA01984 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:47:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from csc.com ([10.1.11.49]) by rattler.gtfc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA01974 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:47:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <378DE66E.21D2CF4@csc.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:47:26 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: [770X] Advice before doing full system rebuild? References: <378D62C2.EB933873@oma.com> <378D6F64.3099214F@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bill Morrow wrote: [snip] > what are ".PWL" files..?? :-) Windows 95/98 cached password files. There is one file for each user on a PC that contains the user's encrypted passwords for various resources. These are used for instances when you tell Windows to 'remember' your password so that you don't need to enter it later. I believe they are safe to delete in most cases if you don't mind having to re-enter your passwords the next time you access a resource. Rob ---------------------------------------- Rob Bell Senior Consultant, CPD Professional CSC Minnesota Webmaster CSC Consulting Group, Minneapolis, MN rbell1@csc.com ---------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 15 10:01:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA29480 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:01:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09222; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:00:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:00:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09112; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:00:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from europa.veggie.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09093; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:00:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from europa.veggie.com (128.255.63.229 -> gauguin.weeg.uiowa.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:00:06 -0400 Received: (from bonak@localhost) by europa.veggie.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA16947; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:00:57 -0500 From: Esmail Bonakdarian Message-Id: <199907151400.JAA16947@europa.veggie.com> Subject: Re: TP560 and linux sound? To: sven.utcke@gmx.de Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:00:57 -0500 (CDT) Cc: esmail@uiowa.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199907151331.PAA10897@asterix.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> from "Sven Utcke" at Jul 15, 99 03:31:01 pm Reply-To: Esmail Bonakdarian Content-Type: text List-Unsubscribe: > > Well, time to dig out the specs (or boot into Windows) and find out > > what type of soundchip I have. > > Nah, not necessary. You just install OSS and it will tell you what > chip you got and whether it will work (after warning you not to use > that feature :-). OSS is really incredibly simple. Only if OSS does > not find anything would it be time to figure out Good suggestion, thanks I'll give that a try. > a) what hardware you got > b) if there is a driver available (there is no driver for mwave). > > If there is, you can either wait for it to be released for free by > OSS, or buy it for a few bucks --- dealing with the guys from 4front > was a pleasure the one time I had to purchase a driver (for AIX) > > http://www.4Front-Tech.com/ Yes, I agree, some time back I bought a driver from then for my gateway. > Not at all --- it either works out of the box, or not at all... :-) Esmail ---- Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak v.e. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 15 19:12:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA05473 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:12:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10576; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:11:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:08:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10259; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10239; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:08:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (128.169.92.76 -> VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:08:23 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) with SMTP id TAA14717; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:08:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907152308.TAA14717@vixen.cs.utk.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: vixen.cs.utk.edu: LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: tom@act.ca cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: tom@act.ca Subject: Re: subscription request In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:59:44 -0400. <19990715205951Z324678-2348+33@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:08:16 -0400 From: Judi Theg Talley List-Unsubscribe: Excuse me. What is it exactly that you want to do? There's a human on this end that doesn't understand your particular mix of commands. "Tom Trottier" spoke thusly: > unsubscribe > subscribe > list > end > ------------------ > From: Tom Trottier, President, ACT Productions Inc. > infoanim@act.ca http://www.act.ca > +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 > 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 2P3 > "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein Judi --- Judi Theg Talley http://www.cs.utk.edu/~judi/ There are no good system administrators, merely temporarily satisfied users. --Tim Martin From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 15 20:26:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA06015 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:26:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14125; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:25:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:23:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13834; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:23:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13811; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (24.112.32.20 -> smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:23:39 -0400 Received: from mail.on.rogers.wave.ca ([24.112.32.4]:48052 "EHLO mail.on.rogers.wave.ca" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <512867-955>; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:21:57 -0400 Received: from cr394328-a.rchrd1.on.wave.home.com ([24.112.93.189]:1797 "HELO actprod" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mail.on.rogers.wave.ca with SMTP id <324682-2348>; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:23:06 -0400 From: "Tom Trottier" Organization: ACT Productions Inc., 199-K1S 2P3, Ottawa To: Judi Theg Talley , tom@act.ca Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:23:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: subscription request Reply-to: tom@act.ca CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: urgent In-reply-to: <199907152308.TAA14717@vixen.cs.utk.edu> References: Your message of Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:59:44 -0400. <19990715205951Z324678-2348+33@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-Id: <19990716002313Z324682-2348+41@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> List-Unsubscribe: Judi, Me problem is no messages - trying to reset. Or has everyone died? Tom On 15 Jul 99, at 19:08, Judi Theg Talley wrote: > Excuse me. What is it exactly that you want to do? > There's a human on this end that doesn't understand > your particular mix of commands. > > "Tom Trottier" spoke thusly: > > > unsubscribe > > subscribe > > list > > end > > ------------------ > > From: Tom Trottier, President, ACT Productions Inc. > > infoanim@act.ca http://www.act.ca > > +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 > > 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 2P3 > > "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein > > Judi > --- > Judi Theg Talley > http://www.cs.utk.edu/~judi/ > > There are no good system administrators, merely > temporarily satisfied users. --Tim Martin > ------------------ From: Tom Trottier, President, ACT Productions Inc. infoanim@act.ca http://www.act.ca +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 2P3 "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 15 21:18:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06330 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:18:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16547; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:17:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:16:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16363; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:16:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.i1.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16334; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:15:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.i1.net (207.230.32.4 -> mail1.i1.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:15:56 -0400 Received: from oma.com (pm3-7stl126.xtraport.net [209.74.139.126]) by mail1.i1.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA28755; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:33:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <378E87BD.B3352FD2@oma.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:15:41 -0500 From: Brian Button Organization: Object Mentor, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Morrow CC: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: [770X] Advice before doing full system rebuild? References: <378D62C2.EB933873@oma.com> <378D6F64.3099214F@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Thanks for your answer, Bill. I went through the long and painful process today, and I'm still reeling a bit from it. It turns out that you absolutly cannot restore the C: partition from the recovery disk if you have converted it to FAT32. Mine was (greedy for the extra space!), so I had to reinstall the entire disk image. Short story is I backed up entire laptop to Iomega Ditto Max Pro over my network (*never* buy this tape drive if you can avoid it IMO), copied Linux partitions to desktop Linux installation, reinstalled disk image, and reinstalled applications and data from tape, CD, and internet. What a nightmare! It is nice to know that I can recover the entire laptop to a workable state from ground zero in about a day. Not horrible, but not something I'd like to do every month :) bab Bill Morrow wrote: > > Brian.. > the recovery disc will offer you the option of only recovering the "C:" > partition or the whole drive.. > to the original IBM scheme.. > > take the offer..! for the "C:" partition only.. > make sure its fat16 or you might (stress might) have some slight difficulty > to deal with.. > like the recovery utility not seeing the fat32 partition.. > > note: the recovery information is really just one huge ZIP file.. > > the older recovery CD's did not like, and probably still don't like, fat32.. -- Brian Button bbutton@oma.com Senior Consultant Object Mentor, Inc. Products Review Editor C++ Report Magazine From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 15 21:38:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06482 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:38:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17573; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:36:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17405; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:36:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from access.crcn.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17392; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:36:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from access.crcn.net (206.12.129.3 -> access.crcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:36:04 -0400 X-ROUTED: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:37:18 -0800 Received: from [206.12.131.40] by access.crcn.net with smtp id 121d0684 ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:37:06 -0800 From: "Pat Presidente" To: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Subject: Parallel Port Scanner Problems Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:33:13 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <378E87BD.B3352FD2@oma.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I've got a 380XD dual boot system (98/Linux) and have developed problems using a parallel port scanner under Windows 98. When I try to access it, the computer starts going (ra-ta-ta-tat-tat), really loud through the speaker and locks up. It was working fine, then all of a sudden started doing this. The only thing that may be tied to when this started, was connecting an HP Deskjet 695 printer. I've since un-installed the print driver as well as the Twain driver numerous times, as well as changing the parallel port settings from EPP to ECP, as well as the memory ranges it uses. I've also hooked up another identical scanner, cable and power supply with the same result. A different parallel port scanner also yields the same result. Anyway, at this point I'm stumped. If anyone has had a similar experience or knows what may point me closer to the problem, or has a resolution to it, I'd sure appreciate hearing from you. Thanks Pat ========================================================================= Pat Presidente School District 72 (Campbell River) District Technology Resource Teacher 425 Pinecrest Road Email: pat.presidente@sd72.bc.ca Campbell River, BC V9W 3P2 Ph.(250) 830-2353 Fx.(250) 830-2329 Your door to the future ========================================================================= Well you know I could have me a million more friends And all I'd have to lose is my point of view - John Prine ========================================================================= From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 15 23:35:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA08699 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21708; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:34:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:33:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21599; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:33:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilot004.cl.msu.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21584; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:33:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilot004.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.104 -> pilot004.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:33:19 -0400 Received: from andres (port18.annarbor02.tir.com [216.40.151.19]) by pilot004.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA47744 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:33:14 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990715233323.00905e30@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:33:23 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Parallel Port Scanner Problems In-Reply-To: References: <378E87BD.B3352FD2@oma.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: A few questions/ideas. Does printing work still? If you can, see if data comes from the scanner in DOS mode. I don't know if you have any software to do that, but doing anything at all with the scanner in DOS would verify that the hardware still works, and once again a hapless soul has been bitten by the Driver Monsters. If you can't do that I would suggest erasing everything dealing with printers and faxes, anything that might talk to the paralell ports and starting from scratch. It isn't likely to happen now, but I once blew a parallel port by moving stuff around on a port (scanner->printer->scanner), and while mystified as to how it happened, it did. Thats why I suggest using DOS if at all possible. DOS is an honest as it is stupid, which is saying a lot. Check in the 'system' icon in the control panel (and elsewhere, of course) to see that Windows things the paralell port is OK. If all else fails reinstall Windows. *what a thing to say* Good luck and let us know what the problem and resolution was/is. --STeve Andre' andres@pilot.msu.edu At 06:33 PM 7/15/99 -0700, Pat Presidente wrote: >I've got a 380XD dual boot system (98/Linux) and have developed problems >using a parallel port scanner under Windows 98. When I try to access it, >the computer starts going (ra-ta-ta-tat-tat), really loud through the >speaker and locks up. It was working fine, then all of a sudden started >doing this. The only thing that may be tied to when this started, was >connecting an HP Deskjet 695 printer. I've since un-installed the print >driver as well as the Twain driver numerous times, as well as changing the >parallel port settings from EPP to ECP, as well as the memory ranges it >uses. I've also hooked up another identical scanner, cable and power supply >with the same result. A different parallel port scanner also yields the >same result. > >Anyway, at this point I'm stumped. If anyone has had a similar experience >or knows what may point me closer to the problem, or has a resolution to it, >I'd sure appreciate hearing from you. > >Thanks >Pat From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 15 23:58:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA08926 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:58:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22791; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:55:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22508; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:55:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22485; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:55:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:55:23 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-301.gate.net [199.227.173.47]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA354366; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:55:19 -0400 Message-ID: <378EAD20.A88823D8@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:55:12 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tom@act.ca CC: Judi Theg Talley , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: subscription request References: Your message of Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:59:44 -0400. <19990715205951Z324678-2348+33@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> <19990716002313Z324682-2348+41@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Tom... its just a quiet time, thats all.. no one has posted a message that is provocative..! i've noticed this on my site as well.. its 'just' mid-july..! :-) Tom Trottier wrote: > Judi, > Me problem is no messages - trying to reset. > Or has everyone died? > Tom > > On 15 Jul 99, at 19:08, Judi Theg Talley wrote: > > > Excuse me. What is it exactly that you want to do? > > There's a human on this end that doesn't understand > > your particular mix of commands. > > > > "Tom Trottier" spoke thusly: > > > > > unsubscribe > > > subscribe > > > list > > > end > > > ------------------ > > > From: Tom Trottier, President, ACT Productions Inc. > > > infoanim@act.ca http://www.act.ca > > > +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 > > > 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 2P3 > > > "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein > > > > Judi > > --- > > Judi Theg Talley > > http://www.cs.utk.edu/~judi/ > > > > There are no good system administrators, merely > > temporarily satisfied users. --Tim Martin > > > > ------------------ > From: Tom Trottier, President, ACT Productions Inc. > infoanim@act.ca http://www.act.ca > +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 > 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 2P3 > "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 16 00:05:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA09024 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:05:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23740; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:03:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23516; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:03:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23503; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:03:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:03:09 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-301.gate.net [199.227.173.47]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA195808; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:03:05 -0400 Message-ID: <378EAEF2.F6F52DBB@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:02:59 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pat Presidente CC: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: Parallel Port Scanner Problems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Time to call h/p support.. typically, the drivers are the cause of such things occurring after a scanner has been installed.. i suppose printers can do the same mischief.. Pat Presidente wrote: > I've got a 380XD dual boot system (98/Linux) and have developed problems > using a parallel port scanner under Windows 98. When I try to access it, > the computer starts going (ra-ta-ta-tat-tat), really loud through the > speaker and locks up. It was working fine, then all of a sudden started > doing this. The only thing that may be tied to when this started, was > connecting an HP Deskjet 695 printer. I've since un-installed the print > driver as well as the Twain driver numerous times, as well as changing the > parallel port settings from EPP to ECP, as well as the memory ranges it > uses. I've also hooked up another identical scanner, cable and power supply > with the same result. A different parallel port scanner also yields the > same result. > > Anyway, at this point I'm stumped. If anyone has had a similar experience > or knows what may point me closer to the problem, or has a resolution to it, > I'd sure appreciate hearing from you. > > Thanks > Pat > > ========================================================================= > Pat Presidente School District 72 (Campbell River) > District Technology Resource Teacher 425 Pinecrest Road > Email: pat.presidente@sd72.bc.ca Campbell River, BC V9W 3P2 > Ph.(250) 830-2353 Fx.(250) 830-2329 Your door to the future > ========================================================================= > Well you know I could have me a million more friends > And all I'd have to lose is my point of view - John Prine > ========================================================================= -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 16 00:33:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA09210 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:33:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25167; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:32:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:30:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24927; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:30:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24902; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (24.128.1.70 -> ne.mediaone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:30:45 -0400 Received: from dpen6300.ne.mediaone.net (jthome.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.12.44]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA25391 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004201becf43$f16a8140$2c0cda18@ne.mediaone.net> From: "Jonathan Teich" To: Subject: TP560X suspend problems Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:30:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: My 560X has a problem that was once intermittent, and is now happening every time. Whenever the machine is suspended (whether by keystrokes, start menu option, or closing the cover) and then reawakened, it wakes up briefly, then the desktop background becomes black (so that all I see are the icons and the wallpaper in the center), and the system is frozen. The only way to get it back in reasonable shape is to do a hard power-off and then restart. If I try the reset switch or ctrl-alt-del, it goes into several rounds of conniptions that eventually take 3-4 reboots to straighten out. The same deal occurs if I hibernate the machine rather than suspending it. At one time, this happened only sometimes and mainly in conjunction with using a third-party port replicator. However, now it occurs with the TP560X all by itself. Has anyone seen this one (and fixed it)? Thanks -- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 16 01:49:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA09733 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:49:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27686; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:48:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:47:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27319; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:47:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail5.lax.netzero.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27291; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail5.lax.netzero.net (209.0.233.48 -> mail5.lax.netzero.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:47:01 -0400 Received: (qmail 21120 invoked by uid 0); 16 Jul 1999 05:46:57 -0000 Received: from pppa54-tucson19-3r692.saturn.bbn.com (HELO netzero.net) (4.11.205.244) by mail5.lax.netzero.net with SMTP; 16 Jul 1999 05:46:57 -0000 Message-ID: <378EC730.53CD7F04@netzero.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:46:24 -0700 From: Juan-Carlos Lerman Reply-To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Morrow CC: tom@act.ca, Judi Theg Talley , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, tom@act.ca, penzance@icanect.net Subject: Re: subscription request References: "15 Jul 1999 16:59:44 -0400." <"19990715205951Z324678-2348+33"@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> <19990716002313Z324682-2348+41@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> <378EAD20.A88823D8@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bill Morrow wrote: > > Tom... > > its just a quiet time, thats all.. > > no one has posted a message that is provocative..! > > i've noticed this on my site as well.. > its 'just' mid-july..! :-) Not only that, consider that here (Arizona) we have to disconnect the phone lines due to the lightning strikes and also it's so hot that the batteries don't recharge to be ready for the next power outage. Then we also spend time listening to the reports about people that went hicking in the rain and are rescued by helicopter due to huge rock- and mud-slides caused by the deluge of today. Moreover, when one finally reconnects one discovers that Judi has announced her interesting Web pages, which are in fact "provocative" [borrowing a term that is (c) Bill Morrow]. Those pages are indeed more interesting than the ThinkPad [(c) IBM] list... :-) BTW, have you praised Judi today for administering this list? See http://www.cs.utk.edu/~judi/ > Tom Trottier wrote: > > > Judi, > > Me problem is no messages - trying to reset. > > Or has everyone died? > > Tom > > > > On 15 Jul 99, at 19:08, Judi Theg Talley wrote: > > > > > Excuse me. What is it exactly that you want to do? > > > There's a human on this end that doesn't understand > > > your particular mix of commands. > > > > > > "Tom Trottier" spoke thusly: > > > > > > > unsubscribe > > > > subscribe > > > > list > > > > end > > > > ------------------ > > > > From: Tom Trottier, President, ACT Productions Inc. > > > > infoanim@act.ca http://www.act.ca > > > > +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 > > > > 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 2P3 > > > > "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein > > > > > > Judi > > > --- > > > Judi Theg Talley > > > http://www.cs.utk.edu/~judi/ > > > > > > There are no good system administrators, merely > > > temporarily satisfied users. --Tim Martin > > > > > > > ------------------ > > From: Tom Trottier, President, ACT Productions Inc. > > infoanim@act.ca http://www.act.ca > > +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 > > 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 2P3 > > "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this > at home.. ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. 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Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 16 07:13:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA11407 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA14751; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:11:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA14600; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:11:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA14582; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:11:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (128.169.92.76 -> VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:11:36 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) with SMTP id HAA22996 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907161111.HAA22996@vixen.cs.utk.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: vixen.cs.utk.edu: LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Administrators on leave Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:11:34 -0400 From: Judi Theg Talley List-Unsubscribe: Greetings all! I'm getting ready to leave for the beach, and Keith is still in Oslo at the IETF meeting. He's due back on Sunday, so there will be a couple of days with no administrator. Yes, I'm taking my thinkpad to the beach, but I'm going to the Outer Banks, and I do not plan to dialin... Call me crazy. I haven't automated the digest archive, so the archive won't get updated till I return on the 26th. I'd ask Keith to do it, but I started it after he left for Oslo, and I don't think I'll ask him to grot through my mail while I'm gone. Just doesn't sound like something you ask a good friend to do. See ya on the 26th! Judi -- Judi Theg Talley http://www.cs.utk.edu/~judi/ There are no good system administrators, merely temporarily satisfied users. --Tim Martin From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 16 08:52:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA11770 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:52:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18595; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:51:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:51:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18484; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:51:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay13.jaring.my (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18463; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:51:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay13.jaring.my (192.228.128.124 -> relay13.jaring.my) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:51:01 -0400 Received: from jaring.my (gloves@j10.ktk34.jaring.my [161.142.52.24]) by relay13.jaring.my (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA19722 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:50:52 +0800 (MYT) From: Daniel To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:52:41 +0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199907131844.OAA06814@vixen.cs.utk.edu> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: 600E internal modem in Malaysia MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Hi there! ^_^ I am the new owner of a TP600E in Malaysia but when I tried to use the internal modem, it said something like: there was no configuration for the country or some such. What does it all mean? And how can I fix it? Do I download something from their website?? Thanks in advance, --Daniel From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 16 11:01:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA12823 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:01:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25291; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:53:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:52:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25136; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:52:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.erols.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25119; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:52:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.erols.com (207.172.3.235 -> smtp2.erols.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:52:40 -0400 Received: from richard (216-164-220-240.s240.tnt5.nyw.ny.dialup.rcn.com [216.164.220.240]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20811 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990716104908.009e8bb0@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: rpritz@pop.rcn.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:51:33 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: richard Subject: charging Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: The charging indicator for my 570 usually reaches 99% charge rather quickly, than stays at 99% for a relatively long amount of time. By charging indicator, I mean the taskbar icon and the power meter. Is this normal? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 16 18:03:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA18950 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:03:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16848; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:01:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:00:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16689; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:00:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16676; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:00:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:00:25 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-16.gate.net [207.36.212.16]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA27282; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:00:24 -0400 Message-ID: <378FAB70.AE43D6F3@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:00:17 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: richard CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: charging References: <4.2.0.58.19990716104908.009e8bb0@pop.rcn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: charging starts below 95% and should go to 100%.. richard wrote: > The charging indicator for my 570 usually reaches 99% charge rather > quickly, than stays at 99% for a relatively long amount of time. By > charging indicator, I mean the taskbar icon and the power meter. > > Is this normal? -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 16 19:31:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA19718 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19853; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:29:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19692; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:29:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19678; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:29:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (207.172.3.237 -> smtp4.erols.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:29:26 -0400 Received: from richard (r82aap002986.nyr.cable.rcn.com [216.164.6.71]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with ESMTP id TAA09543; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:29:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990716192645.009eb7f0@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: rpritz@pop.rcn.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:28:20 -0400 To: Bill Morrow From: richard Subject: Re: charging Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <378FAB70.AE43D6F3@icanect.net> References: <4.2.0.58.19990716104908.009e8bb0@pop.rcn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: It gets to 100%. Seems like 90% to 99% takes the same amount of time as 99% to 100% At 06:00 PM 7/16/99 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: >charging starts below 95% and should go to 100%.. > >richard wrote: > > > The charging indicator for my 570 usually reaches 99% charge rather > > quickly, than stays at 99% for a relatively long amount of time. By > > charging indicator, I mean the taskbar icon and the power meter. > > > > Is this normal? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 16 19:42:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA19830 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:42:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20477; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:42:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:41:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20397; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:41:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20384; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:41:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:41:38 -0400 Received: from sony ([12.67.193.168]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990716234135.WWIE4954@sony>; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 23:41:35 +0000 Message-ID: <378FC2C1.471D@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:39:45 -0400 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: richard CC: Bill Morrow , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: charging References: <4.2.0.58.19990716104908.009e8bb0@pop.rcn.com> <4.2.0.58.19990716192645.009eb7f0@pop.rcn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: All laptops "trickle" charge after a certain point, usually either 90 or 95% richard wrote: > > It gets to 100%. Seems like 90% to 99% takes the same amount of time as > 99% to 100% > > At 06:00 PM 7/16/99 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: > >charging starts below 95% and should go to 100%.. > > > >richard wrote: > > > > > The charging indicator for my 570 usually reaches 99% charge rather > > > quickly, than stays at 99% for a relatively long amount of time. By > > > charging indicator, I mean the taskbar icon and the power meter. > > > > > > Is this normal? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 16 20:15:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA20113 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21909; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:14:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:13:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21780; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21767; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:13:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.217.152 -> ah-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:13:26 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.1) id UAA15779 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.1) with SMTP id UAA15759 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:13:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907170013.UAA15759@hpamraaa.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:11:10 -0400 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Airplane power adapter? List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:21:45 -0400, Andrew Webber wrote: >It seems the answer is unanimous: get a second battery. I could >see getting both a second battery _and_ the power adapter, but the >battery does seem to provide more flexibility. (I understand the >power adapters are typically labelled airplane/automobile >adapters). Here's another question. Does it matter if I get an IBM battery or third-party? The IBM batteries (TP600) are apparently quite hard to get right now, but Inmac and CompUSA claim to have them in stock for U$240. CompUSA also has an Xtend Micro battery for the 600 for U$250. I'm sure I've seen at least one other third-party brand of battery, although I can't figure out where. Can anyone comment on the Xtend Micro vs. the IBM? And any recommendation(s) for other batteries? Thanks! andrew ------ my local weather today: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 16 23:11:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA21289 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 23:11:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26701; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 23:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 23:09:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26553; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 23:09:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26540; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 23:09:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.50 -> avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 23:09:35 -0400 Received: from pool0212.cvx8-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net (pool0212.cvx8-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.178.170.212]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA05120 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:09:28 -0700 (PDT) From: retrostik@earthlink.net (Brent Geery) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: No ECP/EPP on TP755CE & Win98? Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 03:10:42 GMT Message-ID: <378ed1a2.113476@mail.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: I'm having a frustrating and confusing problem with the parallel port on my 755CE under Windows98. The information from TWBOOK.PDF it has EPP and ECP, but I can't get anything better than bi-parallel. The config program has the EPP option grayed out and doesn't even show a ECP option. Also, the easy setup doesn't list either EPP/ECP Anyone know what the problem might be? --- BRENT - The Usenet typo king. :) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 17 01:04:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA22015 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 01:04:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00369; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 01:03:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 17 Jul 1999 01:02:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00211; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 01:02:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Viola.Opus1.COM (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00198; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 01:02:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Viola.Opus1.COM (192.245.12.8 -> Viola.Opus1.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 17 Jul 1999 01:02:52 -0400 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.2-31 #9830) id <01JDNB01RVZ49S9GCK@Opus1.COM> for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:02:50 MST Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 21:59:50 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: No ECP/EPP on TP755CE & Win98? In-reply-to: "Your message dated Sat, 17 Jul 1999 03:10:42 +0000 (GMT)" <378ed1a2.113476@mail.earthlink.net> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <01JDNBTS3OXO9S9GCK@Opus1.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: retrostik@earthlink.net (Brent Geery) writes - > I'm having a frustrating and confusing problem with the parallel port > on my 755CE under Windows98. The information from TWBOOK.PDF it has > EPP and ECP, but I can't get anything better than bi-parallel. The > config program has the EPP option grayed out and doesn't even show a > ECP option. Also, the easy setup doesn't list either EPP/ECP Anyone > know what the problem might be? I don't have w98 but on my 755CE the only way I could get EPP un-grayed out was by first selecting LPT2 instead of LPT1... Billy Y.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 18 00:24:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA29283 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:24:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06580; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:21:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06348; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:21:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06335; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:21:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:21:35 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-66.gate.net [199.227.20.129]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA327230; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:21:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3791563F.D8546D0F@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:21:19 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net CC: richard , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: charging References: <4.2.0.58.19990716104908.009e8bb0@pop.rcn.com> <4.2.0.58.19990716192645.009eb7f0@pop.rcn.com> <378FC2C1.471D@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------37A00235FBFDD2E80544CE42" List-Unsubscribe: --------------37A00235FBFDD2E80544CE42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit usually on thinkpads its 95%, but my experience on all the 'senior' thinkpads is that 95% to 100% is at the same charge rate as 0% to 95%.. if you start recharging at 90%, it'll charge to 100%, if you start at 96% it'll stay there until it goes below 95% charge.. then it'll start charging.. this is not to say that it will go down to below 95% charge when machine is running or not and ac adapter is connected.. you must disconnect ac adapter and run until charge state is below 95%, then plug it in and viola! 100% charge.. if the 600 stays at 99% for a long time when it started charging at, say 90%, ran to 99% at normal rate, then stalled for a long while at 99%, that MAY be something worth looking into... :-) Bruce Markowitz wrote: > All laptops "trickle" charge after a certain point, usually either 90 or > 95% > > richard wrote: > > > > It gets to 100%. Seems like 90% to 99% takes the same amount of time as > > 99% to 100% > > > > At 06:00 PM 7/16/99 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: > > >charging starts below 95% and should go to 100%.. > > > > > >richard wrote: > > > > > > > The charging indicator for my 570 usually reaches 99% charge rather > > > > quickly, than stays at 99% for a relatively long amount of time. By > > > > charging indicator, I mean the taskbar icon and the power meter. > > > > > > > > Is this normal? -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. --------------37A00235FBFDD2E80544CE42 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit usually on thinkpads its 95%, but my experience on all the 'senior' thinkpads is that 95% to 100% is at the same charge rate as 0% to 95%..
if you start recharging at 90%, it'll charge to 100%, if you start at 96% it'll stay there until it goes below 95% charge..
then it'll start charging..
this is not to say that it will go down to below 95% charge when machine is running or not and ac adapter is connected..
you must disconnect ac adapter and run until charge state is below 95%, then plug it in and viola! 100% charge..

if the 600 stays at 99% for a long time when it started charging at, say 90%, ran to 99% at normal rate, then stalled for a long while at 99%, that MAY be something worth looking into...  :-)
 

Bruce Markowitz wrote:

All laptops "trickle" charge after a certain point, usually either 90 or
95%

richard wrote:
>
> It gets to 100%.  Seems like 90% to 99% takes the same amount of time as
> 99% to 100%
>
> At 06:00 PM 7/16/99 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote:
> >charging starts below 95% and should go to 100%..
> >
> >richard wrote:
> >
> > > The charging indicator for my 570 usually reaches 99% charge rather
> > > quickly, than stays at 99% for a relatively long amount of time.  By
> > > charging indicator, I mean the taskbar icon and the power meter.
> > >
> > > Is this normal?

 

--
Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
WEB page http://thinkpads.com
Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html
Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop
e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net
770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al...

Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a
closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home..
  --------------37A00235FBFDD2E80544CE42-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 18 01:10:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA29580 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:10:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07918; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:09:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:09:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07807; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:09:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07794; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:09:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.62 -> snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:09:09 -0400 Received: from pool0120.cvx8-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net (pool0120.cvx8-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.178.170.120]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA16659 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 22:09:05 -0700 (PDT) From: retrostik@earthlink.net (Brent Geery) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: No ECP/EPP on TP755CE & Win98? Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 05:10:19 GMT Message-ID: <379099aa.440091@mail.earthlink.net> References: <01JDNBTS3OXO9S9GCK@Opus1.COM> In-Reply-To: <01JDNBTS3OXO9S9GCK@Opus1.COM> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 21:59:50 -0700 (MST), you wrote: >retrostik@earthlink.net (Brent Geery) writes - > >> I'm having a frustrating and confusing problem with the parallel port >> on my 755CE under Windows98. > >I don't have w98 but on my 755CE the only way I could get EPP >un-grayed out was by first selecting LPT2 instead of LPT1... Thanks Bill! ECP makes a real difference transferring files! Now to get my last two problems fixed: Suspend and Hibernate mode. What OS are you using, and do these mode work for you fine? I'm using Win98 on a FAT32 C:, but I created a FAT16 D: just for the swapfile and hibernate file. --- BRENT - The Usenet typo king. :) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 18 01:28:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA29709 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:28:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08616; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:27:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:26:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08508; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:26:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.ibm.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08495; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:26:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.ibm.net (165.87.194.229 -> out2.ibm.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:26:32 -0400 Received: from thinkpad (slip-32-100-39-63.nj.us.ibm.net [32.100.39.63]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA154968 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 05:26:26 GMT Message-ID: <003101bed079$60c201e0$3f276420@thinkpad> From: "Donald Mak" To: References: <4.2.0.58.19990716104908.009e8bb0@pop.rcn.com> <4.2.0.58.19990716192645.009eb7f0@pop.rcn.com> <378FC2C1.471D@worldnet.att.net> <3791563F.D8546D0F@icanect.net> Subject: Re: charging Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 13:25:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01BED057.D78FA4C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01BED057.D78FA4C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know about the 600 but on my 770 it charges regardless of the = percentage. I have had it at 97% and it will recharge the rest of the = way. Don usually on thinkpads its 95%, but my experience on all the 'senior' = thinkpads is that 95% to 100% is at the same charge rate as 0% to 95%..=20 if you start recharging at 90%, it'll charge to 100%, if you start at = 96% it'll stay there until it goes below 95% charge..=20 then it'll start charging..=20 this is not to say that it will go down to below 95% charge when = machine is running or not and ac adapter is connected..=20 you must disconnect ac adapter and run until charge state is below = 95%, then plug it in and viola! 100% charge..=20 if the 600 stays at 99% for a long time when it started charging at, = say 90%, ran to 99% at normal rate, then stalled for a long while at = 99%, that MAY be something worth looking into... :-)=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01BED057.D78FA4C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I don't know about the 600 but on my = 770 it charges=20 regardless of the percentage. I have had it at 97% and it will recharge = the rest=20 of the way.
 
Don
 
usually on thinkpads its 95%, but my experience on = all the=20 'senior' thinkpads is that 95% to 100% is at the same charge rate as = 0% to=20 95%..
if you start recharging at 90%, it'll charge to 100%, if you = start=20 at 96% it'll stay there until it goes below 95% charge.. =
then it'll start charging..
this is not to say that it will go = down to=20 below 95% charge when machine is running or not and ac adapter is = connected..=20
you must disconnect ac adapter and run until charge state is below = 95%,=20 then plug it in and viola! 100% charge..=20

if the 600 stays at 99% for a long time when it started charging = at, say=20 90%, ran to 99% at normal rate, then stalled for a long while at 99%, = that=20 MAY be something worth looking into...  :-) =
 =20

------=_NextPart_000_002E_01BED057.D78FA4C0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 18 09:29:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA02801 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:29:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25485; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:27:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25323; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:27:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bradnet.legend.co.uk (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25310; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:26:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bradnet.legend.co.uk (194.164.19.39 -> bradnet.legend.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:27:00 -0400 Received: by bradnet.legend.co.uk (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.03/2.0) id OAA011.74; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:21:28 +0100 Message-Id: <199907181321.OAA011.74@bradnet.legend.co.uk> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 99 14:21:28 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: [TP600] Sound chip To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] for OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: How can I tell which sound chip is used in a TP600 (2645-450) ? -- John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 18 12:59:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA04183 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00279; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:59:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:57:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29889; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:57:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29875; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:57:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu (128.220.2.86 -> jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:57:32 -0400 Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu [128.220.2.5]) by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V5.2-29 #37929) with ESMTP id <01JDPLCYFIHMF5N232@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:57:11 EDT Received: (from thood@localhost) by jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA32261 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:57:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:56:57 -0400 (EDT) From: thood@jhu.edu (J.d.thomas Hood) Subject: ThinkPad 600 sound chip In-reply-to: from <"owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU"@Jul> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <199907181657.MAA32261@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: >How can I tell which sound chip is used in a TP600 (2645-450) ? The documentation says it's a CS4237B, but the later models may have a slightly different (but backward-compatible, presumably) version of the chip. -- Thomas Hood thood@jhu.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 18 17:50:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA06789 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 17:50:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07422; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 17:50:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 17:49:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07282; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 17:49:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07268; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 17:49:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 17:49:08 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-230.gate.net [207.36.212.230]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA124216; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 17:47:45 -0400 Message-ID: <37924B79.EDEE1C20@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 17:47:37 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP600] Sound chip References: <199907181321.OAA011.74@bradnet.legend.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: "CS" = Crystal Sound ??! best place to look is the IBM site with the detailed specs.. John Poltorak wrote: > How can I tell which sound chip is used in a TP600 (2645-450) ? > > -- > John -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 18 20:41:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA08308 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:41:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11532; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:40:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:39:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11226; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:39:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp03.mail.gol.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11209; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:38:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp03.mail.gol.com (203.216.5.13 -> smtp03.mail.gol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:38:31 -0400 Received: from tc-1-224.nagoya.gol.ne.jp (tc-1-224.nagoya.gol.ne.jp [203.216.28.224]) by smtp03.mail.gol.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 43B6A407A; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:38:22 +0900 (JST) From: scarter@hticn.com (Stephen A. Carter) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: "Stephen A. Carter" Subject: Re: [TP600] Sound chip Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:27:43 +0900 Organization: High-Tech Information Center Nagoya, Ltd., Nagoya, Japan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: References: <199907181321.OAA011.74@bradnet.legend.co.uk> <37924B79.EDEE1C20@icanect.net> In-Reply-To: <37924B79.EDEE1C20@icanect.net> Lines: 12 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.35Beta [OS/2] List-Unsubscribe: In article <37924B79.EDEE1C20@icanect.net>, Bill Morrow wrote: >"CS" = Crystal Sound ??! "CS" is "Crystal Semiconductor" (now a division of Cirrus Logic, I believe). -- Stephen A. Carter High-Tech Information Center Nagoya, Ltd. Nagoya, Japan PGP key ID: 0x59B4F7AD From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 18 21:54:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA08915 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:54:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13742; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:51:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13261; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:51:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Viola.Opus1.COM (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13248; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Viola.Opus1.COM (192.245.12.8 -> Viola.Opus1.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:50:57 -0400 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.2-31 #9830) id <01JDPWNZKZGW9SB0G5@Opus1.COM> for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:50:55 MST Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:44:12 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: No ECP/EPP on TP755CE & Win98? In-reply-to: "Your message dated Sun, 18 Jul 1999 05:10:19 +0000 (GMT)" <379099aa.440091@mail.earthlink.net> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <01JDPXPJ2G029SB0G5@Opus1.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <01JDNBTS3OXO9S9GCK@Opus1.COM> <01JDNBTS3OXO9S9GCK@Opus1.COM> List-Unsubscribe: retrostik@earthlink.net (Brent Geery) writes - > Now to get my last two problems fixed: Suspend and Hibernate mode. > What OS are you using, and do these mode work for you fine? I'm using > Win98 on a FAT32 C:, but I created a FAT16 D: just for the swapfile > and hibernate file. I have Win3.11 and Win95 but I'm not using the suspend or hibernate modes. They did work ok way back when but I need the disk space they (at least hibernate) use - I started off with 540MB, now I have 2GB and it's darn near full... Billy Y.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 18 22:57:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA09589 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:57:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16083; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:54:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15789; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:54:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chele.cais.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15776; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chele.cais.net (199.0.216.212 -> chele.cais.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:54:04 -0400 Received: from localhost (rj@localhost) by chele.cais.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA19436; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:50:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:50:01 -0400 (EDT) From: rj To: Donald Malcolm MacQueen cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: PCMCIA Linux compatible modem for a 560? In-Reply-To: <002f01bed189$05b930a0$8e24accf@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Well I don't have a 560 but I am using an Eiger Lab PCMCIA modem with linux on a 701 and it sees to work just fine and it uses a special connector to hook up to a RJ11 plug. As for XJack i had one and did not like it for the simple reason that if you use it in a Type III the other slot is blocked and therefore useless - inother words if you were using the modem you would not be able to hookup your PCMCIA CD-ROM concurrently. BTW I would stay away from WinModems (to state the obvious). HTH On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Donald Malcolm MacQueen wrote: > I need a recommendation for such a > beast, and a good place to buy one. > Nothing fancy, just something that > works. > > I could also use some war stories > about the different kind of connectors -- > Xjack, etc. > > And while I'm asking for advice, what's > a decent cheap external CD-ROM, and > where would I buy such a thing? > > Thanks muchly. > > Donald > ---------------------------------------- > Donald M. MacQueen > Registered Smalltalk Bigot > ---------------------------------------- > I've tried the rest, now I use the best -- Smalltalk! > ---------------------------------------- > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 18 23:03:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA09619 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:03:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16852; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:01:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16494; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:01:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waconet.org (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16480; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:01:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waconet.org (24.137.17.17) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:01:37 -0400 Received: from pii333 [205.130.19.147] by waconet.org (SMTPD32-5.01 EVAL) id A5222BC01D0; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:01:54 EDT Message-ID: <000a01bed193$61be1f00$931382cd@pii333> From: "Slipnfall" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Your thoughts on the 770... Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:04:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Hi there, I'm about to put in a purchass request for work to purchass a 770Z and am wondering what you guys think of the 770 in general. I may be able to get work to pay for part of the 770Z, but I'll still be shelling out a good bit of money for it. I'd like to know what problems you have run into with it, if there are any bad points, and why I should pick the 770Z over any other Thinkpad. Is the weight a trade-off for features? My main usage for it will be application development in C++, usuall office apps(Office97), massive presentations(guess I won't have an excuse for no having them done, eh? hehehe), and small gaming & DVD durring leisure time(Quake2!). I won't be doing a whole lot of road work except for occasional air-time(four or five times a year at most), but those points are equally important. I also wanted to ask what benefits I would have from getting a CardBuss 10/100 PCMCIA network card over traditional ones. Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 18 23:09:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA09690 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:09:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13896; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:51:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13369; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:51:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13349; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (207.172.3.234 -> smtp1.erols.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:51:34 -0400 Received: from default (207-172-36-142.s142.tnt6.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.36.142]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA12483 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:51:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002f01bed189$05b930a0$8e24accf@default> From: "Donald Malcolm MacQueen" To: Subject: PCMCIA Linux compatible modem for a 560? Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:50:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I need a recommendation for such a beast, and a good place to buy one. Nothing fancy, just something that works. I could also use some war stories about the different kind of connectors -- Xjack, etc. And while I'm asking for advice, what's a decent cheap external CD-ROM, and where would I buy such a thing? Thanks muchly. Donald ---------------------------------------- Donald M. MacQueen Registered Smalltalk Bigot ---------------------------------------- I've tried the rest, now I use the best -- Smalltalk! ---------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 19 00:36:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA10455 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:36:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05364; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:33:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05023; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.internal (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA04990; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:33:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.internal (209.166.154.244 -> isdn244.vocollect.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:33:27 -0400 Received: from brianb-tp ([172.31.2.106]) by mail.internal (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA03119 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:34:28 -0400 From: "Brian Bender" To: "'Thinkpads list'" Subject: RE: No ECP/EPP on TP755CE & Win98? Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:29:41 -0400 Message-ID: <002001bed19f$a47e04c0$6a021fac@brianb-tp.internal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <379099aa.440091@mail.earthlink.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Hey guys, just FWIW: those aren't LPT1, 2, and 3, they're LPTA, B, and C. Regardless which one you pick, it'll still be LPT1 (since you only have one parallel port). They're just different combinations of IRQ and IO address. And yes, the first one (LPTA) won't do EPP/ECP... I think A is IRQ=7 IO=3BC, B is IRQ=7 IO=378, C is IRQ=5 IO=278. ============================================= - Brian Bender Thinkpad 600, 300MHZ, 128MB RAM, 5^H10GB HDD, WinNT 4.0 SP5 On Sunday, July 18, 1999 1:10 AM, Brent Geery wrote: > > > On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 21:59:50 -0700 (MST), you wrote: > > >retrostik@earthlink.net (Brent Geery) writes - > > > >> I'm having a frustrating and confusing problem with the > parallel port > >> on my 755CE under Windows98. > > > >I don't have w98 but on my 755CE the only way I could get EPP > >un-grayed out was by first selecting LPT2 instead of LPT1... > > Thanks Bill! ECP makes a real difference transferring files! > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 19 00:53:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA10563 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:53:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06181; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:52:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:51:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05892; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Viola.Opus1.COM (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05879; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:51:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Viola.Opus1.COM (192.245.12.8 -> Viola.Opus1.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:51:03 -0400 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.2-31 #9830) id <01JDQ098VTI89SB0G5@Opus1.COM> for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:51:01 MST Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:44:04 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: RE: No ECP/EPP on TP755CE & Win98? In-reply-to: "Your message dated Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:29:41 -0400" <002001bed19f$a47e04c0$6a021fac@brianb-tp.internal> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: "'Thinkpads list'" Message-id: <01JDQ40SYMLI9SB0G5@Opus1.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 References: <379099aa.440091@mail.earthlink.net> List-Unsubscribe: Brian Bender writes - > Hey guys, just FWIW: those aren't LPT1, 2, and 3, they're LPTA, B, and C. > Regardless which one you pick, it'll still be LPT1 (since you only have one > parallel port). True but on my parallel port setup screen they are named LPT1, 2 and 3. If I'd have said 'try B' that could have been a problem when the person asking didn't see it amongst the possible choices... > They're just different combinations of IRQ and IO address. > And yes, the first one (LPTA) won't do EPP/ECP... I think A is IRQ=7 > IO=3BC, B is IRQ=7 IO=378, C is IRQ=5 IO=278. Correct. Billy Y.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 19 04:05:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA11530 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 04:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13429; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 04:04:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 04:03:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13157; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 04:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13144; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 04:03:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (140.142.76.8 -> jason02.u.washington.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 04:03:01 -0400 Received: from dante03.u.washington.edu (williams@dante03.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.5]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id BAA17686 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 01:02:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (williams@localhost) by dante03.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id BAA55338 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 01:02:58 -0700 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 01:02:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Williams" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: VM/Cache/ Ram/ Win98/2000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I have a few questions: I currently have a 770ED with 64meg of Ram with the standard Win 95 OSR2. What exactly is System Resouces? Is this directly related to Ram? I tend to have multiple applications open at once. Sytems Resouces tend to get low after a while. Would more Ram help this? I am interested in upgrading my Ram with a 128meg DIMM. I see that Kingston has these priced lower than most. Why the great difference in price among suppliers? I thought I saw something about 256meg cards; can these be used in the Thinkpad? I changed Windows to set my own Virtual Memory setttings. I didn't have enough room on my C drive, so I moved the swap file to D drive and set it to be fixed at 160meg. Is there any problem having this file on a drive other than C. What is Vcache? I read about changing this but it's function isn't clear to me? Do I need to worry about this and, if so, how should it be changed? Is it different in Win 98 or Win 2000? Is there an easy way to manage start-up applications. I have some in the system tray that I might want to disable. Do I need to change OS's to account for Y2K? How about USB? Does it make more sense to get Win 98SE or just Win 98? Do they need more memory than 95? Also, how about Win 2000? When is coming out? Any advantages over Win 98? If it doesn't crash as much I would be more interested in it than Win 98. Thanks, John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 19 05:39:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA11869 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 05:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22426; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 05:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 05:37:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22178; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 05:37:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22164; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 05:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (195.174.27.3 -> home.egenet.com.tr) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 05:37:26 -0400 Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA25750; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:29:45 +0400 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199907190829.MAA25750@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "Daniel" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:27:15 -0100 (TUR) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 600E internal modem in Malaysia List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:52:41 +0800, Daniel wrote: > I am the new owner of a TP600E in Malaysia but when I tried to use the >internal modem, it said something like: there was no configuration for the >country or some such. What does it all mean? And how can I fix it? Do I Good luck; I have the same thing. My thinkpad, when booted in Windows mode, thinks I live in the US.. :) (I had to change the country setting) -turgut -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr Windows Error 035: Error Message Deleted From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 19 06:06:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA11944 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:06:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23614; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:05:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:04:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23338; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23324; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:04:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (134.102.224.3 -> bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:04:00 -0400 Received: from henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (postfix@henker.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.219.172]) by bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA05966; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:04:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from henker-1.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (henker-1.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.217.98]) by henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4521182; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:03:38 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:03:31 +0200 (MET DST) From: Steffan Henke X-Sender: henker@henker-1.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de To: Donald Malcolm MacQueen Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: PCMCIA Linux compatible modem for a 560? In-Reply-To: <002f01bed189$05b930a0$8e24accf@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Donald Malcolm MacQueen wrote: > I need a recommendation for such a > beast, and a good place to buy one. > Nothing fancy, just something that > works. For me, modems are still only made by either ZyXEL or USR, now 3COM, although I do not very well about PCMCIA modems. I am using GSM while on the road. > And while I'm asking for advice, what's > a decent cheap external CD-ROM, and > where would I buy such a thing? IBM does not count, since they are not that cheap :) I'd go for a Freecom, I have it working under Linux as well (parallel port CD), maybe you want to have a look at http://www.freecom.de Regards, Steffan -- ... Our continuing mission: To seek out knowledge of C, to explore strange UNIX commands, and to boldly code where no one has man page 4. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 19 06:17:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA11970 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:17:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24210; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:16:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:15:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23939; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:15:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23926; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:15:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:15:13 -0400 Received: from sierpinski (kahuna.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA05978 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:15:06 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000e01bed1cf$982bdf00$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: References: Subject: Re: PCMCIA Linux compatible modem for a 560? Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:15:13 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > > And while I'm asking for advice, what's > > a decent cheap external CD-ROM, and > > where would I buy such a thing? > > IBM does not count, since they are not that cheap :) I paid $150 for mine last year - you just have to look for deals and closeouts. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 19 06:22:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA11981 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24727; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:20:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24385; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newton.uucp (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24372; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newton.uucp (206.16.41.111 -> async-lgcy-06-111.lgcy.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:20:10 -0400 Received: (from perfekt@localhost) by newton.uucp (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA20876; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 04:17:29 -0600 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <002f01bed189$05b930a0$8e24accf@default> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 04:17:29 -0600 (MDT) Reply-To: Aron Hsiao Sender: newton!perfekt@mail.lgcy.com From: Aron Hsiao To: Donald Malcolm MacQueen Subject: RE: PCMCIA Linux compatible modem for a 560? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu List-Unsubscribe: On 19-Jul-99 Donald Malcolm MacQueen wrote: > I need a recommendation for such a > beast, and a good place to buy one. > Nothing fancy, just something that > works. Just about any PCMCIA modem should work; even Mac PCMCIA modems are typically recognized by Linux. As long as it sets up a UART (serial) interface, it should work. As always, steer clear of DSP, HSP, or "Win" modems. > I could also use some war stories > about the different kind of connectors -- > Xjack, etc. > > And while I'm asking for advice, what's > a decent cheap external CD-ROM, and > where would I buy such a thing? Too many external CD-ROM drives use proprietary interfaces which aren't supported by Linux. Your best bet is to grab a used Adaptec SlimSCSI card somewhere on the net and use it to talk to an external SCSI CD-ROM. This will be well supported by Linux and will have the added benefit of being able to talk to up to six other SCSI devices at a time, including scanners, tape drives, and optical drives. -Aron -- ### Aron Hsiao, About.com guide to Linux ### ---------------------------------------------------------------- ### L I N U X : The choice of a GNU generation! From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 19 08:58:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA12540 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00178; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:58:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:56:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29750; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:56:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29737; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (207.69.200.30 -> smtp0.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:56:12 -0400 Received: from wald5 (user-2iveaog.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.43.16]) by smtp0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA29509; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:56:07 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "William Armstrong" To: "Slipnfall" Cc: "ThinkPad list" Subject: RE: Your thoughts on the 770... Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:56:29 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000a01bed193$61be1f00$931382cd@pii333> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I think the main benefit of the 770Z is the XGA screen. It is beautiful! For my forty plus year old eyes reading glasses are required, but once you see this screen you will not want to use anything with a lower resolution. I use a 3COM cardbus card. I find that I have to remove it in order to suspend my machine successfully. I have a XIRCOM non-cardbus card as well and it may be slightly better in this regard, but certainly not without it's problems too. -Bill Armstrong -----Original Message----- From: Slipnfall [mailto:slipnfall@waconet.org] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 11:04 PM To: Thinkpad Subject: Your thoughts on the 770... Hi there, I'm about to put in a purchass request for work to purchass a 770Z and am wondering what you guys think of the 770 in general. I may be able to get work to pay for part of the 770Z, but I'll still be shelling out a good bit of money for it. I'd like to know what problems you have run into with it, if there are any bad points, and why I should pick the 770Z over any other Thinkpad. Is the weight a trade-off for features? My main usage for it will be application development in C++, usuall office apps(Office97), massive presentations(guess I won't have an excuse for no having them done, eh? hehehe), and small gaming & DVD durring leisure time(Quake2!). I won't be doing a whole lot of road work except for occasional air-time(four or five times a year at most), but those points are equally important. I also wanted to ask what benefits I would have from getting a CardBuss 10/100 PCMCIA network card over traditional ones. Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Jamie From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 19 10:02:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA13043 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:02:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04705; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:01:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:00:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04585; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.ibm.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04569; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:00:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.ibm.net (165.87.194.239 -> out4.ibm.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:00:15 -0400 Received: from ibm.net (slip-32-101-122-183.il.us.ibm.net [32.101.122.183]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA108476; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:00:10 GMT Message-ID: <37932E8A.6E05ECF9@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:56:26 -0500 From: Jeff Fayne Reply-To: fayne@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: ThinkPad list Subject: Re: Your thoughts on the 770... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: William Armstrong wrote: > I think the main benefit of the 770Z is the XGA screen. It is beautiful! > For my forty plus year old eyes reading glasses are required, but once you > see this screen you will not want to use anything with a lower resolution. > I too am looking into the 770 series for my next Thinkpad. My question has to with screen resolutions/color depth available. I believe the 770Z will support 1024x768 and 1280x1024 at 24-bit. Is that 'full screen' or the scrollable 'virtual desktop'? I have an manufacturing application that I'm writing specifically for 1024x768 (or higher) 24bit color workstations with dual monitors and need to support it in the field at that resolution. I can live without the dual monitors, but need to have the full screen resolution. Side issue: does the 770 series have a docking station that would allow me to add another video card to support dual monitors? Thanks, Jeff From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 19 13:12:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA14861 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16758; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:11:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:10:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16478; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:10:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16460; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:09:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.36 -> mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:09:58 -0400 Received: from sony ([12.79.0.231]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990719170951.CVIY2808@sony>; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:09:51 +0000 Message-ID: <37935B6D.3536@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:07:57 -0400 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fayne@ibm.net CC: ThinkPad list Subject: Re: Your thoughts on the 770... References: <37932E8A.6E05ECF9@ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: You can use the SelectaDock to add a PCI (only) video card. Of course, the video card in the Dock will only playbton an external monitor, and the internal card and LCD screen are disabled. I am using a 770ED with a Creative Voodoo Banshee for 3Dfx gaming. Jeff Fayne wrote: > > William Armstrong wrote: > > > I think the main benefit of the 770Z is the XGA screen. It is beautiful! > > For my forty plus year old eyes reading glasses are required, but once you > > see this screen you will not want to use anything with a lower resolution. > > > > I too am looking into the 770 series for my next Thinkpad. My question has to > with screen resolutions/color depth available. I believe the 770Z will support > 1024x768 and 1280x1024 at 24-bit. Is that 'full screen' or the scrollable > 'virtual desktop'? > > I have an manufacturing application that I'm writing specifically for 1024x768 > (or higher) 24bit color workstations with dual monitors and need to support it > in the field at that resolution. I can live without the dual monitors, but need > to have the full screen resolution. > > Side issue: does the 770 series have a docking station that would allow me to > add another video card to support dual monitors? > > Thanks, > > Jeff From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 19 14:02:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA15459 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19713; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:55:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:54:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19392; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:54:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19354; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (204.101.251.52 -> smtp13.bellglobal.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:53:54 -0400 Received: from mpro1 (ppp8376.on.bellglobal.com [207.236.124.40]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA27946 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01b101bed210$556c1950$147ceccf@mpro1> Reply-To: "Carlos de la Puente" From: "Carlos de la Puente" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: FA: IBM ThinkPad 760L - P90, 10.4" TFT $325, 15 available Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:58:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01AE_01BED1EE.CD817E70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01AE_01BED1EE.CD817E70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For more info and to place a bid, please go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D133884447 ------=_NextPart_000_01AE_01BED1EE.CD817E70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0224_01BED1F4.FDD89E90-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 19 18:56:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA18742 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:56:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07227; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:53:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07016; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:53:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06993; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:53:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:53:08 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-82.gate.net [207.36.212.82]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA347390; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:53:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3793AC4B.398BFB86@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:52:59 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carlos de la Puente CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: FS: ThinkPad 770 Enhanced DVD Video Adapter References: <022701bed216$859e7360$147ceccf@mpro1> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------12B9FAE49672AB3117695D1E" List-Unsubscribe: --------------12B9FAE49672AB3117695D1E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carlos.. which one is this.. the early one for the 770 & 770E series, or the later one for the 770X & Z series..? if you need part numbers, i'll dig them out for you.. :-) Carlos de la Puente wrote: > Brand new (sealed in box) for U.S.$150. Please contact me if > interested. Thanks. -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. --------------12B9FAE49672AB3117695D1E Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carlos..
which one is this..
the early one for the 770 & 770E series, or the later one for the 770X & Z series..?

if you need part numbers, i'll dig them out for you..  :-)

Carlos de la Puente wrote:

 Brand new (sealed in box) for U.S.$150. Please contact me if interested. Thanks.
 

--
Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
WEB page http://thinkpads.com
Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html
Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop
e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net
770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al...

Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a
closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home..
  --------------12B9FAE49672AB3117695D1E-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 19 19:00:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA18787 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:00:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07715; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:59:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:58:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07544; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:58:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07531; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:58:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:58:49 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-82.gate.net [207.36.212.82]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA291704 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:58:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3793ADA3.4AEE0848@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:58:43 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: FS: New 770Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I apologise for this obvious commercial event, BUT, i have ONE ONLY new, sealed, 770Z-8AU (with the SXGA display) for sale.. -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 19 19:11:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA18919 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:11:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08454; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:05:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:05:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08245; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08232; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:05:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:05:06 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-82.gate.net [207.36.212.82]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA283534; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:05:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3793AF1A.900D7B6F@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:04:58 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fayne@ibm.net CC: ThinkPad list Subject: Re: Your thoughts on the 770... References: <37932E8A.6E05ECF9@ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Jeff.. Jeff Fayne wrote: > William Armstrong wrote: > > > I think the main benefit of the 770Z is the XGA screen. It is beautiful! > > For my forty plus year old eyes reading glasses are required, but once you > > see this screen you will not want to use anything with a lower resolution. > > > > I too am looking into the 770 series for my next Thinkpad. My question has to > with screen resolutions/color depth available. I believe the 770Z will support > 1024x768 and 1280x1024 at 24-bit. Is that 'full screen' or the scrollable > 'virtual desktop'? > while i have not tried pannigg (i don't think its available on this model), the 770Z does support screen expansion..this is NOT as good as true 1024x768 but you can live with it quite nicely.. its so much better than the older screen expansion algorithms.. also, sxga is exactly double vga FWIW.. > I have an manufacturing application that I'm writing specifically for 1024x768 > (or higher) 24bit color workstations with dual monitors and need to support it > in the field at that resolution. I can live without the dual monitors, but need > to have the full screen resolution. > > Side issue: does the 770 series have a docking station that would allow me to > add another video card to support dual monitors? > YES..!its supposed to do so, but i've never tried it.. > Thanks, > > Jeff -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 19 19:21:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA19012 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:21:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09404; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:19:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09187; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09174; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:19:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:19:34 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-82.gate.net [207.36.212.82]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA389996; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:19:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3793B27D.7D3DC133@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:19:25 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Williams" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: VM/Cache/ Ram/ Win98/2000 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: HAH.. lotsa questions, little time, but here goes with fast answers.. J. Williams wrote: > Hi, I have a few questions: > > I currently have a 770ED with 64meg of Ram with the standard Win 95 OSR2. > > What exactly is System Resouces? all of the above and below..usually IRQ's are a part of resources.. but it gets more involved than that.. some misbehaved apps will "take" memory, and when they are terminated, they don't release the memory back to the "pool" of available memory.. so, your resources can slowly evaporate throughout the day.. IRQ's OTH are fixed and the 770ED will want all of them.. then newer the OS, the better it should handle sharing IRQ's.. > Is this directly related to Ram? yes and no..see below.. > I tend to have multiple applications open at once. Sytems Resouces tend to > get > low after a while. Would more Ram help this? > yes, maybe..depends upon which apps you are running.. basically, more memory is GOOD..! :-) > I am interested in upgrading my Ram with a 128meg DIMM. I see that > Kingston has these priced lower than most. Why the great difference in > price among suppliers? I thought I saw something about 256meg cards; can > these be used in the Thinkpad? > no 256 meg parts for the 770..arcitecture does not support it and there are no chips, yes, for notebook memory.. > I changed Windows to set my own Virtual Memory setttings. I didn't have > enough room on my C drive, so I moved the swap file to D drive and set it > to be fixed at 160meg. Is there any problem having this file on a drive > other than C. > no..you can ALSO max the memory and make a RAM drive.. much fgaster than a HDD.. (i've not done this and have heard of no one doing this.. yet..) > What is Vcache? I read about changing this but it's function isn't clear > to me? Do I need to worry about this and, if so, how should it be changed? > Is it different in Win 98 or Win 2000? > i'm not sure either.. > Is there an easy way to manage start-up applications. I have some in the > system tray that I might want to disable. > theres a little known appled hiding in your C:\Windows directory..its called MSCONFIG.EXE.. that will help with the systray a bit.. > Do I need to change OS's to account for Y2K? How about USB? Does it make > more sense to get Win 98SE or just Win 98? Do they need more memory than > 95? > YIKES..!!uhh.. maybe (if you are running win95 still), USB is a port in the back, yes, MORE is GOOD..!! :-) > Also, how about Win 2000? what about it.. ? > When is coming out? spring 2002.. > Any advantages over Win > 98? yes.. > If it doesn't crash as much I would be more interested in it than Win > 98. > Yae, verilly, brother, so would we all..BUT, lots of that crashing can be attributed to rogue apps and misbehaved drivers and the like.. ALWAYS keep the bios up to date.. and the rest of the usual suspects.. > Thanks, John BTW: the 128meg memory part just came down a bit.. though i have not had the time to update my web site, so that kingston is either at market or probably higher.. i won't post prices here since this is not a marketing venue.. :-) unless someone askes me to do so.. -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 19 20:31:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA19742 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:31:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12609; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:30:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:30:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12418; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12404; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:29:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (204.101.251.52 -> smtp13.bellglobal.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:29:55 -0400 Received: from mpro1 (ppp8381.on.bellglobal.com [207.236.124.45]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA08529 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:31:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <05d001bed247$a8209090$147ceccf@mpro1> Reply-To: "Carlos de la Puente" From: "Carlos de la Puente" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: FS: ThinkPad 770 and 770E Enhanced DVD Video Adapter (p/n 11J8957) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:34:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Brand new (sealed in box) for U.S.$150. I failed before to state the part number. It is 11J8957 DVD CARD (SHARK DVD CARD). It is NOT for the 770X nor the 770Z. Please contact me if interested. Thanks. I From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 19 22:10:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA20707 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16257; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:09:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:08:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16069; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:08:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16052; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:08:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (24.112.32.20 -> smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:08:35 -0400 Received: from mail.on.rogers.wave.ca ([24.112.32.4]:53741 "EHLO mail.on.rogers.wave.ca" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <512877-20284>; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:07:36 -0400 Received: from cr394328-a.rchrd1.on.wave.home.com ([24.112.93.189]:1878 "HELO actprod" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mail.on.rogers.wave.ca with SMTP id <324680-27883>; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:08:05 -0400 From: "Tom Trottier" Organization: ACT Productions Inc., 199-K1S 2P3, Ottawa To: "Thinkpad" Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:07:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Halliburton computer cases Reply-to: tom@act.ca Priority: urgent In-reply-to: <05d001bed247$a8209090$147ceccf@mpro1> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-Id: <19990720020813Z324680-27883+64@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> List-Unsubscribe: Someone was asking about a good computer case - but I lost her address (Mary X?) See http://www.tocad.com/zcc.html for the sturdiest stuff, lifetime guarantee. Tom (no fin'l involvement - except I've owned one of their cases for 30 years.) ------------------ From:Tom Trottier, President, ACT Productions Inc. tom@act.ca http://www.act.ca +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 2P3 "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 19 22:28:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA20883 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:28:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17294; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:27:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:26:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17080; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:26:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from f1n3.u.arizona.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17059; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from f1n3.u.arizona.edu (128.196.137.103 -> f1n3.U.Arizona.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:26:31 -0400 Received: (from mcquaid@localhost) by f1n3.u.arizona.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25950 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:26:29 -0700 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:26:29 -0700 From: mcquaid@U.Arizona.EDU To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Halliburton computer cases Message-ID: <19990719192628.A25716@U.Arizona.EDU> References: <05d001bed247$a8209090$147ceccf@mpro1> <19990720020813Z324680-27883+64@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990720020813Z324680-27883+64@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca>; from Tom Trottier on Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 10:07:53PM -0400 List-Unsubscribe: You may consider it overkill, but I use the Zeroller, illustrated at http://www.tocad.com/zt.html, as a rolling office that includes the TP770X as well as a huge number of books and papers. I got it with a flexible set of foam inserts (it can also be purchased without) to permit different configurations. My switch to it was prompted by a 250lb. colleague, who stepped on my old soft-sided case (luckily not with my 770X inside!) while we were racing to meet a deadline in an unfamiliar work environment. At that time, the cheapest source was 1-800-LUGGAGE, aka http://www.800luggage.com. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 20 01:01:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA22407 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 01:01:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22674; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 01:01:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:58:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22390; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:58:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out5.ibm.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22377; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:58:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out5.ibm.net (165.87.194.243 -> out5.ibm.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:58:06 -0400 Received: from oscar (slip-32-100-144-175.co.us.ibm.net [32.100.144.175]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA91784 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 04:58:00 GMT Message-ID: <000c01bed26c$62edb8c0$af906420@oscar> Reply-To: "Tom Franklin" From: "Tom Franklin" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Thinkpad 570 Floppy Compatible with others? Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:57:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01BED23A.164AF5A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BED23A.164AF5A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm considering getting a Thinkpad 570 and was wondering if my external = Thinkpad 560 floppy will work with the external port on that model? Has = anyone tried this? ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BED23A.164AF5A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm considering getting a Thinkpad 570 and was = wondering=20 if my external Thinkpad 560 floppy will work with the external port on = that=20 model?  Has anyone tried this?
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BED23A.164AF5A0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 20 01:38:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA22677 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 01:38:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23706; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 01:37:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 01:37:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23576; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 01:37:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from venus.treco.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23563; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 01:36:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from venus.treco.net (209.208.36.2 -> venus.treco.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 01:36:56 -0400 Received: from treco.net (stu74.treco.net [209.208.36.74]) by venus.treco.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA08096; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 01:36:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37940ADB.592A4910@treco.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 01:36:27 -0400 From: Bill Morrow Organization: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad list , Tom Franklin Subject: 570 Floppy compatability Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The 560 and 570 floppy are the same, i think.. the 600 uses an enternal floppy "box" that the internal floppy slides into.. -- Live long and prosper, Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) CSi ThinkPad Forum SYSOP WEB page http://thinkpads.com, SYSOP http://thinkpads.com/enter.html SYSOP E-Mail: bill@thinkpads.com, morrow@treco.net 770Z-8AU, 28gigs, 320megs, 760ED, 760CD, 755CE, (5)701C, 750C the term ThinkPad(c) is a copyright of IBM corp. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 20 14:24:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA29118 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:24:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02236; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:23:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:21:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02082; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:21:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02068; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:21:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (204.101.251.52 -> smtp13.bellglobal.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:21:44 -0400 Received: from mpro1 (ppp8381.on.bellglobal.com [207.236.124.45]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA01006 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <007501bed2dd$683d5d50$1d7ceccf@mpro1> Reply-To: "Carlos de la Puente" From: "Carlos de la Puente" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Seeking clarification on the ThinkPad 770 and 770E Enhanced DVD Video Adapter (p/n 11J8957) Support for 770X & 770Z Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:46:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Hello, So far I have received three different opinions on the applicability for the 770X/Z of p/n 11J8957, they are: 1) 770X/Z don't need it because the support is built in. This seems inaccurate, you can play DVD movies in the 770X/Z but you don't have the MPEG2 hardware decoding and you don't have an external connection to hook the 770X/Z to play DVD movies on a TV set (correct me if I'm wrong please) 2) The 770X/Z require a different p/n (10L1228) I checked the FRU numbers for both 11J8957 and 10L1228, they are the same. This would indicate to me that -- while 10L1228 supersedes 11J8957 -- both part numbers will work on the 770X/Z. I have no clue what the real difference between the two is, but I know that some minor modification is all it takes for IBM to issue a new part number. If someone knows for a fact that 11J8957 doesn't work on the 770X/Z, please let me know. 3) The 11J8957 DVD adapter will work on the 770, 770E, 770X, and 770Z I received a call from someone who has a 770E and a 770Z. This person has 10L1228 and claims it ill work on all the above models and assured me that -- despite the different part numbers -- both adapters are the same. We compared the FRU number in the DVD card and it was the same for both part numbers. I have some 770X and 770Z owners interested in the DVD adapter, but I still have some lingering doubts. If there is someone who has used 11J8957 on a 770X or 770Z, I would appreciate it if he/she could share their experience. Thanks, Carlos From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 20 15:56:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA00474 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08487; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:55:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:54:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08368; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.netlinq.nl (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08290; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:53:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.netlinq.nl (195.109.135.151 -> www.netlinq.nl) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:53:55 -0400 Received: from netlinq.nl (adsl-145-99-66-109.snelnet.nl [145.99.66.109]) by www.netlinq.nl (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA31303 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:35:06 +0200 Message-ID: <3794D408.C824BD81@netlinq.nl> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:54:48 +0200 From: Jeroen Elfferich Reply-To: jeroen@netlinq.nl Organization: http://www.netlinq.nl/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: [770X] screen brightness sometimes drops... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I'm using a 770X with 13.7" SXGA screen since last November with great pleasure. However, lately it sometimes has problems with the brightness of the LCD. For no apparent reason, the brightness can suddenly drop to the level equal to the minimum you can set with the control under the screen, even though it is set to maximum brightness. It sometimes comes back to normal after a few secs, but usually I have to fiddle with the brightness control and move the screen back and forward a bit to get normal brightness again. I guess there's something wrong with a connector or something and before sending it to IBM, I was wondering if any of you have had similar problems... Regards, Jeroen From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 20 16:25:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA00866 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:25:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11148; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:24:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:24:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11061; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:24:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11047; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:24:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (140.142.78.6 -> jason05.u.washington.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:24:10 -0400 Received: from dante01.u.washington.edu (williams@dante01.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.3]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA20446; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:24:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (williams@localhost) by dante01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA68712; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:23:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:23:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Williams" To: Jeroen Elfferich cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: [770X] screen brightness / Sending back to IBM In-Reply-To: <3794D408.C824BD81@netlinq.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I have a 770ED with the same problem. too have to move the screen around to get to maxiumum brightness. At first I thought it was because I updgraded the bios. I went back to the older bios with no change. I will send my Thinkpad back to IBM for Servicing on the LCD for screen flicker problem. But I also have some defective pixels. What is the current policy for screen replacement? Also, will they install new drivers/patches while they have it? If not should I take out the hard drive? Do they do anything else with it while they have it? Thanks, John On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Jeroen Elfferich wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using a 770X with 13.7" SXGA screen since last November with > great pleasure. However, lately it sometimes has problems with > the brightness of the LCD. For no apparent reason, the brightness > can suddenly drop to the level equal to the minimum you can set > with the control under the screen, even though it is set to maximum > brightness. It sometimes comes back to normal after a few secs, but > usually I have to fiddle with the brightness control and move the > screen back and forward a bit to get normal brightness again. > > I guess there's something wrong with a connector or something > and before sending it to IBM, I was wondering if any of you have > had similar problems... > > Regards, > > Jeroen > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 20 20:41:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA03720 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:41:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24707; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:40:26 -0400 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24518; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:40:24 -0400 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id UAA16765 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from yutani.dns-host.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13632; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from yutani.dns-host.com (209.235.102.12 -> yutani.dns-host.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:59:53 -0400 Received: from sod2038 ([137.53.68.115]) by yutani.dns-host.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA26978; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:59:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002401bed2f2$da4f47e0$73443589@ohsu.edu> From: "AC Brown" To: "Thinkpad list" , "Tom Franklin" Subject: 570/560 floppy compatibility Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:00:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Date: 1999 Jul 20 To: Thinkpad list ; Tom Franklin From: AC Brown Subj: 570/560 floppy compatibility I recently changed from a TP 560X to a TP 570. The floppy drives and cables from the two TPs are electrically and functionally equivalent. The major difference is that the size of the TP 570 drive is slightly smaller and has no rubber feet, probably so that it can slide into the TP 570 UltraBase. A minor difference is that the TP 570 floppy's cable is a bit longer. I am using the TP 560 floppy with my TP 570 and have had no problems. AC Brown From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 20 20:47:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA03797 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25339; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:46:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:46:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25240; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:46:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25223; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:46:05 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-444.gate.net [199.227.131.253]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA64052; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:46:07 -0400 Message-ID: <37951843.A3C33C6F@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:45:55 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carlos de la Puente CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: Seeking clarification on the ThinkPad 770 and 770E Enhanced DVD Video Adapter (p/n 11J8957) Support for 770X & 770Z References: <007501bed2dd$683d5d50$1d7ceccf@mpro1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Carlos.. Carlos de la Puente wrote: > Hello, > > So far I have received three different opinions on the applicability for the > 770X/Z of p/n 11J8957, they are: > > 1) 770X/Z don't need it because the support is built in. > WRONG...it is soft DVD.. still need the enhanced video card for video in and out and digital audio.. > This seems inaccurate, you can play DVD movies in the 770X/Z but you > don't have the MPEG2 hardware decoding and you don't have an external > connection to hook the 770X/Z to play DVD movies on a TV set (correct me if > I'm wrong please) > > 2) The 770X/Z require a different p/n (10L1228) > YES.. > I checked the FRU numbers for both 11J8957 and 10L1228, they are the > same. This would indicate to me that -- while 10L1228 supersedes 11J8957 -- > both part numbers will work on the 770X/Z. I have no clue what the real > difference between the two is, but I know that some minor modification is > all it takes for IBM to issue a new part number. If someone knows for a fact > that 11J8957 doesn't work on the 770X/Z, please let me know. > the new one is backward compatible to the 770 and 770E series, but the old version is NOT forward compatyible to the 770X and Z.. > 3) The 11J8957 DVD adapter will work on the 770, 770E, 770X, and 770Z > > I received a call from someone who has a 770E and a 770Z. This person has > 10L1228 and claims it ill work on all the above models and assured me > that -- despite the different part numbers -- both adapters are the same. We > compared the FRU number in the DVD card and it was the same for both part > numbers. > see above.. > I have some 770X and 770Z owners interested in the DVD adapter, but I still > have some lingering doubts. If there is someone who has used 11J8957 on a > 770X or 770Z, I would appreciate it if he/she could share their experience. > i have never actually tested this, but the above is what is SUPPOSED to be the facts..! don't MAKE me read the d... manual/catalog/PC Product guide.. :-) > Thanks, > Carlos -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 20 20:52:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA03852 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:52:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25882; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:50:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25608; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:50:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25587; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:50:05 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-444.gate.net [199.227.131.253]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA149532; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:50:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3795192F.4CE342DA@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:49:51 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carlos de la Puente CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: Seeking clarification on the ThinkPad 770 and 770E Enhanced DVD Video Adapter (p/n 11J8957) Support for 770X & 770Z References: <007501bed2dd$683d5d50$1d7ceccf@mpro1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: the NEWER one (10L1228) IS compatible with all 770 machines, per the d... manual sales guide.. the older one is not even listed.. -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 20 20:55:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA03885 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26384; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:54:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:54:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26171; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:54:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26158; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:54:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:54:01 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-444.gate.net [199.227.131.253]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA208144; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:53:51 -0400 Message-ID: <37951A13.C6CEEF24@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:53:39 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: AC Brown CC: Thinkpad list , Tom Franklin Subject: Re: 570/560 floppy compatibility References: <002401bed2f2$da4f47e0$73443589@ohsu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: FWIW, i have used the same old faithful 755 external floppy with every thinkpad i have ever owned that supported an external floppy.. some of them are: 755CD (through a dock 1 i think) 760CD, 760ED, 765D, 770,ED,X,Z, 600E, 560.. and it appears from the cabling that the 570 which i played with for a few days, will do so as well.. AC Brown wrote: > Date: 1999 Jul 20 > To: Thinkpad list ; Tom Franklin > From: AC Brown > Subj: 570/560 floppy compatibility > > I recently changed from a TP 560X to a TP 570. The floppy drives and > cables from the two TPs are electrically and functionally equivalent. > The major difference is that the size of the TP 570 drive is slightly > smaller and has no rubber feet, probably so that it can slide into the > TP 570 UltraBase. A minor difference is that the TP 570 floppy's cable > is a bit longer. > > I am using the TP 560 floppy with my TP 570 and have had no problems. > > AC Brown -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 20 20:59:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA03934 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:59:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26962; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:58:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:57:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26880; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:57:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26733; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:57:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:57:28 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-444.gate.net [199.227.131.253]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA249878; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:56:14 -0400 Message-ID: <37951AA2.1ADB5DB7@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:56:03 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Justin Liu CC: rockwell@pa.msu.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices References: <199907210025.RAA01169@elaine11.Stanford.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Justin.. i printed the page last night, no problem.. be sure you are using the newest version of acrobat.. ver. 3 i think is what i'm using.. AND YES, the round plug AC adapter works on ALL round plug machines.. tested here, so dar: 701, all 770 series, 560, 570 and 600E.. Justin Liu wrote: > Not to beat a dead horse, but... > > I ordered the 560 batteries from Microwarehouse at their closeout prices. > I received them already and everything looks fine, but I haven't been able > to print out the rebate coupon. Has anyone else had that problem? > Whenever I try to print from Acrobat, all I get is one page that just has > the sunburst start pattern and then another page which only has the top > half of the ad, and not the bottom section with the form, etc. > > Is there some kind of bug in Acrobat? Did anyone else have the same > problem? Maybe it would just be easier if someone who did get it to print > could just mail me a copy (I don't have a fax). > > Also, is the AC adapter advertised in the same offer compatible with the > 560? I know it says it's for the 600, but is there any real difference? > The part number is different from the one that I have but I'm not sure > that has any meaning. I'm tempted by the thought of a $20 AC adapter. > > Thanks, > > - Justin -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 20 21:27:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA04238 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:27:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23547; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:27:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:26:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23198; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:26:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23181; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:26:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:26:10 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-444.gate.net [199.227.131.253]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA208160; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:26:09 -0400 Message-ID: <37951395.A4CB6B05@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:25:57 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Williams" CC: Jeroen Elfferich , ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: [770X] screen brightness / Sending back to IBM References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: usually, a top will be replaced if theres anything wrong with it at all, and usually (so far 100% of the time) the replacement display has been perfect or so close to it as to undiscernable... always, remove your hard drive.. unless you really WANT to chance loosing everything on it.. and no, they won't update anything on the hard drive except, maybe, the entire original preload.. J. Williams wrote: > Hi, I have a 770ED with the same problem. too have to move the screen > around to get to maxiumum brightness. At first I thought it was because I > updgraded the bios. I went back to the older bios with no change. > > I will send my Thinkpad back to IBM for Servicing on the LCD for screen > flicker problem. But I also have some defective pixels. What is the > current policy for screen replacement? Also, will they install new > drivers/patches while they have it? If not should I take out the hard > drive? Do they do anything else with it while they have it? > > Thanks, John > > On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Jeroen Elfferich wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm using a 770X with 13.7" SXGA screen since last November with > > great pleasure. However, lately it sometimes has problems with > > the brightness of the LCD. For no apparent reason, the brightness > > can suddenly drop to the level equal to the minimum you can set > > with the control under the screen, even though it is set to maximum > > brightness. It sometimes comes back to normal after a few secs, but > > usually I have to fiddle with the brightness control and move the > > screen back and forward a bit to get normal brightness again. > > > > I guess there's something wrong with a connector or something > > and before sending it to IBM, I was wondering if any of you have > > had similar problems... > > > > Regards, > > > > Jeroen > > -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 20 21:27:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA04231 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:27:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23512; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:26:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23153; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:25:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elaine11.Stanford.EDU (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23140; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:25:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elaine11.Stanford.EDU (171.64.15.76 -> elaine11.Stanford.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:25:55 -0400 Received: (from dondon@localhost) by elaine11.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.7) id RAA01169; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:25:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Justin Liu Message-Id: <199907210025.RAA01169@elaine11.Stanford.EDU> To: rockwell@pa.msu.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices List-Unsubscribe: Not to beat a dead horse, but... I ordered the 560 batteries from Microwarehouse at their closeout prices. I received them already and everything looks fine, but I haven't been able to print out the rebate coupon. Has anyone else had that problem? Whenever I try to print from Acrobat, all I get is one page that just has the sunburst start pattern and then another page which only has the top half of the ad, and not the bottom section with the form, etc. Is there some kind of bug in Acrobat? Did anyone else have the same problem? Maybe it would just be easier if someone who did get it to print could just mail me a copy (I don't have a fax). Also, is the AC adapter advertised in the same offer compatible with the 560? I know it says it's for the 600, but is there any real difference? The part number is different from the one that I have but I'm not sure that has any meaning. I'm tempted by the thought of a $20 AC adapter. Thanks, - Justin From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 21 07:47:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA09039 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:47:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17952; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:46:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:44:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17585; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:44:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from garnet.sover.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17572; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:44:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from garnet.sover.net (209.198.87.53 -> garnet.sover.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:44:29 -0400 Received: from MYHOSTNAME (arc3a19.bf.sover.net [209.198.81.83]) by garnet.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA23545 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907211144.HAA23545@garnet.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on garnet.sover.net) MYHOSTNAME from arc3a19.bf.sover.net [209.198.81.83] 209.198.81.83 Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:10:46 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <37951AA2.1ADB5DB7@icanect.net> Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 b60 List-Unsubscribe: >YES, the round plug AC adapter works on ALL round plug machines.. tested >here, so dar: 701, all 770 series, 560, 570 and 600E.. >> Also, is the AC adapter advertised in the same offer compatible with the >> 560? I know it says it's for the 600, but is there any real difference? >> The part number is different from the one that I have but I'm not sure >> that has any meaning. I'm tempted by the thought of a $20 AC adapter. Which AC Adapter is it? The 600E AC adapter produces 3.36 A, while the 560 AC adapter produces 2.2A. They both output 16V. --Are they interchangeable? I don't know. _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 21 11:18:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA11176 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:18:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00900; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:16:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:16:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00753; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:15:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ssec.wisc.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00705; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:15:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ssec.wisc.edu (144.92.108.61 -> ssec.wisc.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:15:49 -0400 Received: from mail.ssec.wisc.edu (mail.ssec.wisc.edu [144.92.108.227]) by ssec.wisc.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA20360 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:15:46 -0500 Received: by mail.ssec.wisc.edu with ADMIN;21 Jul 1999 10:15:35 -0600 Message-ID: <3795EA3C.70FF817A@ssec.wisc.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:41:49 -0500 From: Paul Schnettler Reply-To: paulsch@ssec.wisc.edu Organization: UW-Space Science & Engineering Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad reply Subject: cd-rom drives for dock-II Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Any list users have an idea which cd-rom unit "fits" best in the dock II unit? The 1/2 height bay on the left side below the LCD monitor display seems to be similar in size to the 755CD drive unit. The ibm site is somewhat confusing in that listed are a bundle of drives (with all the superceded FRU numbers et al...) Anyone have a suitable (relatively low speed/low end specs.) drive for sale...Bill? thanks, Paul Schnettler From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 21 13:11:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA12756 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04146; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:52:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03846; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:51:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from europa.veggie.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03708; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:50:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from europa.veggie.com (128.255.63.229 -> gauguin.weeg.uiowa.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:50:55 -0400 Received: (from bonak@localhost) by europa.veggie.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA29439 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:52:08 -0500 From: Esmail Bonakdarian Message-Id: <199907211552.KAA29439@europa.veggie.com> Subject: tp560x specs To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:52:08 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: Esmail Bonakdarian Content-Type: text List-Unsubscribe: Hi, Does anyone know of a place on the web where I can get detailed/complete specs for the TP 560x? Specifically, I am currently interested in what sort of sound chip/hardware the 560x comes with. I looked on the IBM web page but didn't find the information I was looking for. There was a spec sheet I found, but it wasn't detailed enough. The documentation I got with my system doesn't have it either. Thanks, Esmail ---- Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 21 13:13:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA12787 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:13:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03556; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:49:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:48:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03352; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:48:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from europa.veggie.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03329; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:47:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from europa.veggie.com (128.255.63.229 -> gauguin.weeg.uiowa.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:47:55 -0400 Received: (from bonak@localhost) by europa.veggie.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA29431 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:49:16 -0500 From: Esmail Bonakdarian Message-Id: <199907211549.KAA29431@europa.veggie.com> Subject: tp560 $25 battery mailer code? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:49:16 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: Esmail Bonakdarian Content-Type: text List-Unsubscribe: Hello Everybody, First of all thanks to whomever posted about the $50 TP560 battery promo at MicroWarehouse. With the info provided I was able to order a batter for $50. I am filling out the rebate form and I was wondering what I need to put into the Mailer Code box? Is this the same as the source code posted here before, i.e., P95x20? Also, I noticed the invoice I received with the battery had no info on the price of the battery, or the s&h charged. I thought that was kind of odd, but as long as I get charged what I was quoted on the phone I really don't care. Esmail ---- Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 21 13:34:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA13086 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:34:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11761; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:32:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11600; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:32:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11573; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:32:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:32:01 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-79.gate.net [207.36.212.79]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA25052; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:31:45 -0400 Message-ID: <379603F5.57250DBD@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:31:33 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: letoured@sover.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices References: <199907211144.HAA23545@garnet.sover.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Yes, they are.. amps is a measure of how much power can be drawn.. i know i'm not an electrical engineer, but suffice it to say, like memory and win9x, MORE is BETTER in the case of amperage (which is, in basic terms, the capacity of available power).. letoured@sover.net wrote: > >YES, the round plug AC adapter works on ALL round plug machines.. tested > >here, so dar: 701, all 770 series, 560, 570 and 600E.. > > >> Also, is the AC adapter advertised in the same offer compatible with the > >> 560? I know it says it's for the 600, but is there any real difference? > >> The part number is different from the one that I have but I'm not sure > >> that has any meaning. I'm tempted by the thought of a $20 AC adapter. > > Which AC Adapter is it? The 600E AC adapter produces 3.36 A, while the > 560 AC adapter produces 2.2A. They both output 16V. --Are they > interchangeable? I don't know. > > _____________ > letoured@sover.net -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 21 13:55:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA13338 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:55:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14126; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:54:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:53:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13840; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:53:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.lax.netzero.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13810; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:53:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.lax.netzero.net (209.0.233.35 -> mail1.lax.netzero.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:53:17 -0400 Received: (qmail 22123 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 1999 17:53:12 -0000 Received: from pppa12-tucson6-4r344.saturn.bbn.com (HELO netzero.net) (4.11.217.74) by mail1.lax.netzero.net with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 17:53:12 -0000 Message-ID: <379608E5.909981AA@netzero.net> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:52:37 -0700 From: Juan-Carlos Lerman Reply-To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Morrow , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices References: <199907211144.HAA23545@garnet.sover.net> <379603F5.57250DBD@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bill Morrow wrote: > > Yes, they are.. > amps is a measure of how much power can be drawn.. Really *current*, but *power* is correct in this case because the voltage of both devices is the same. In a nutshell, the voltage is *produced* and the *current* or *amperage* value written on the specs is the maximum that can be drawn from the device. > i know i'm not an electrical engineer, but suffice it to say, like memory and > win9x, MORE is BETTER in the case of amperage (which is, in basic terms, the and also in the case of $$$: MORE is BETTER if they are in my account but this is very personal... :-) > capacity of available power).. > > letoured@sover.net wrote: > > > >YES, the round plug AC adapter works on ALL round plug machines.. tested > > >here, so dar: 701, all 770 series, 560, 570 and 600E.. > > > > >> Also, is the AC adapter advertised in the same offer compatible with the > > >> 560? I know it says it's for the 600, but is there any real difference? > > >> The part number is different from the one that I have but I'm not sure > > >> that has any meaning. I'm tempted by the thought of a $20 AC adapter. > > > > Which AC Adapter is it? The 600E AC adapter produces 3.36 A, while the > > 560 AC adapter produces 2.2A. They both output 16V. --Are they > > interchangeable? I don't know. > > > > _____________ > > letoured@sover.net > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, > Done on a > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 21 14:17:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA13620 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:17:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16268; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:15:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:15:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16164; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:14:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16130; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:14:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:14:48 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-79.gate.net [207.36.212.79]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA456358; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:14:42 -0400 Message-ID: <37960E06.6B830440@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:14:30 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: paulsch@ssec.wisc.edu CC: thinkpad reply Subject: Re: cd-rom drives for dock-II References: <3795EA3C.70FF817A@ssec.wisc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul.. i don't THINK and TP CD's fit the dock-2.. if my memory is not totally fried, there was a special scsi IBM drive that went in there.. Paul Schnettler wrote: > Any list users have an idea which cd-rom unit "fits" best in the dock II > unit? > The 1/2 height bay on the left side below the LCD monitor display seems > to be similar in size to the 755CD drive unit. > The ibm site is somewhat confusing in that listed are a bundle of drives > (with all the superceded FRU numbers et al...) > Anyone have a suitable (relatively low speed/low end specs.) drive for > sale...Bill? > thanks, > Paul Schnettler -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 21 14:18:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA13644 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:18:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16582; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:17:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:16:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16438; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:16:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16413; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:16:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:16:28 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-79.gate.net [207.36.212.79]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA59720; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:16:15 -0400 Message-ID: <37960E63.DAC1A628@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:16:03 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices References: <199907211144.HAA23545@garnet.sover.net> <379603F5.57250DBD@icanect.net> <379608E5.909981AA@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: i KNEW i should have referred this question to you..!! now explain ohms law and watts law, et al., (we will, for now, ignore murphy's law) Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > Bill Morrow wrote: > > > > Yes, they are.. > > amps is a measure of how much power can be drawn.. > > Really *current*, but *power* is correct in this case because > the voltage of both devices is the same. In a nutshell, the > voltage is *produced* and the *current* or *amperage* value > written on the specs is the maximum that can be drawn from > the device. > > > i know i'm not an electrical engineer, but suffice it to say, like memory and > > win9x, MORE is BETTER in the case of amperage (which is, in basic terms, the > > and also in the case of $$$: MORE is BETTER if they are > in my account but this is very personal... :-) > > > capacity of available power).. > > > > letoured@sover.net wrote: > > > > > >YES, the round plug AC adapter works on ALL round plug machines.. tested > > > >here, so dar: 701, all 770 series, 560, 570 and 600E.. > > > > > > >> Also, is the AC adapter advertised in the same offer compatible with the > > > >> 560? I know it says it's for the 600, but is there any real difference? > > > >> The part number is different from the one that I have but I'm not sure > > > >> that has any meaning. I'm tempted by the thought of a $20 AC adapter. > > > > > > Which AC Adapter is it? The 600E AC adapter produces 3.36 A, while the > > > 560 AC adapter produces 2.2A. They both output 16V. --Are they > > > interchangeable? I don't know. > > > > > > _____________ > > > letoured@sover.net > > > > -- > > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > > > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, > > Done on a > > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > ________________________________________________________ > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 21 16:03:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA15114 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:03:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25339; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:01:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25196; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:01:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marlin.nosc.mil (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25173; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:00:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marlin.nosc.mil (128.49.4.4 -> marlin.nosc.mil) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:00:59 -0400 Received: from localhost (dseaman@localhost) by marlin.nosc.mil (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA11718 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:00:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Derek L. Seaman" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 600E HD died fast In-Reply-To: <37960E06.6B830440@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I was using my 600E laptop tonight in Spain (on business travel from the US) and it totally died. It had trouble accessing files, windows wouldn't boot, and 1.5 hours into a scan disk it totally died. Making terrible clicking sounds. I'm so freaking mad! There was no warning...and I didn't drop the drive or laptop. Now I'm screwed in Spain!! Damn IBM. Derek From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 21 16:11:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA15187 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26376; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:10:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:10:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26285; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:10:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilot003.cl.msu.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26272; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilot003.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.103 -> pilot003.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:10:02 -0400 Received: from andres (pm558-15.dialip.mich.net [35.9.49.67]) by pilot003.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA74054 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:09:59 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990721161007.00918610@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:10:07 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: 600E HD died fast In-Reply-To: References: <37960E06.6B830440@icanect.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: To be fair to IBM, any number of things could have been the cause of the death of your disk. To anyone reading this: If you are ever using a computer and you think the disk might be making odd sounds, start copying the really important files to a floppy instantly! No matter what you are doing, you aren't going to be doing it on that computer if the disk dies. No matter how inconvienent it may seem (in a meeting, about to sleep for the night, etc) DO IT ANYWAY. I have managed to beat that into the heads of several people who travel with laptops and I have two success stories of people who saved really critical data in the nick of time. Even with days bloatware and multi-gig disks, usually a couple of floppies will hold A LOT of the important stuff. When pressed, I've never found someone who couldn't tell me the *really* important things on their disk. If you deal with users who use computers, teach them this. Its the other part of "safe computing", the ability to smell disaster and start copying files. Now, granted it can't stop all disk disasters but it will stop some of them. Along with this, teaching users to periodically make backups of the super important files when travelling is a Good Thing. --STeve Andre' (who deals with disasters) andres@pilot.msu.edu At 01:00 PM 7/21/99 -0700, Derek L. Seaman wrote: > I was using my 600E laptop tonight >in Spain (on business travel from the US) and it totally died. It had >trouble accessing files, windows wouldn't boot, and 1.5 hours into a scan >disk it totally died. Making terrible clicking sounds. > >I'm so freaking mad! There was no warning...and I didn't drop the drive or >laptop. Now I'm screwed in Spain!! Damn IBM. > >Derek > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 21 16:55:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA15809 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:55:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29541; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:54:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:53:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29380; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:53:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29366; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:53:37 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-79.gate.net [207.36.212.79]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA29450; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:53:39 -0400 Message-ID: <37963346.4720FBC9@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:53:27 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Derek L. Seaman" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 600E HD died fast References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Derek.. these things happen (cold comfort to know THAT at this time)... the 600E i had (and resold) had a hitachi drive in it.. does yours..?? also, IBM does have warranty support, even in spain.. you should have warranty on that drive.. the big loss, obviously, is the data.. you CAN have the last backup sent to you via e-mail.. there are other ways to recover data from the dead drive, as well... Derek L. Seaman wrote: > I was using my 600E laptop tonight > in Spain (on business travel from the US) and it totally died. It had > trouble accessing files, windows wouldn't boot, and 1.5 hours into a scan > disk it totally died. Making terrible clicking sounds. > > I'm so freaking mad! There was no warning...and I didn't drop the drive or > laptop. Now I'm screwed in Spain!! Damn IBM. > > Derek -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 21 17:35:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA16452 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:35:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02031; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:34:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:33:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01882; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:33:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01866; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (149.159.1.1 -> fallout.campusview.indiana.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:33:35 -0400 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA07620; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:33:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:33:31 -0500 (EST) From: To: "Derek L. Seaman" cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 600E HD died fast In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Derek L. Seaman wrote: > I'm so freaking mad! There was no warning...and I didn't drop the drive or > laptop. Now I'm screwed in Spain!! Damn IBM. And the reason I bought IBM...the best international warranty support around...you did register for it didn't you? -john From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 21 18:36:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA17265 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04779; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:34:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04677; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:34:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.mindspring.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04664; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:34:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.mindspring.com (207.69.200.31 -> smtp1.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:34:35 -0400 Received: from ms461956 (pool-209-138-37-95.irvn.grid.net [209.138.37.95]) by smtp1.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA02960; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003c01bed3c9$49808800$75278ad1@ms461956> Reply-To: "James" From: "James" To: "Bill Morrow" , Cc: References: <199907211144.HAA23545@garnet.sover.net> <379603F5.57250DBD@icanect.net> <379608E5.909981AA@netzero.net> <37960E63.DAC1A628@icanect.net> Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:35:02 -0700 Organization: US EPA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01BED38E.9998D760" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01BED38E.9998D760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In most cases, more amp is not better because it could lead to thermal = breakdown unless your device is designed to run on reverse bias - as = some diodes are. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Morrow=20 To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu=20 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices i KNEW i should have referred this question to you..!! now explain ohms law and watts law, et al., (we will, for now, ignore murphy's law) Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > Bill Morrow wrote: > > > > Yes, they are.. > > amps is a measure of how much power can be drawn.. > > Really *current*, but *power* is correct in this case because > the voltage of both devices is the same. In a nutshell, the > voltage is *produced* and the *current* or *amperage* value > written on the specs is the maximum that can be drawn from > the device. > > > i know i'm not an electrical engineer, but suffice it to say, like = memory and > > win9x, MORE is BETTER in the case of amperage (which is, in basic = terms, the > > and also in the case of $$$: MORE is BETTER if they are > in my account but this is very personal... :-) > > > capacity of available power).. > > > > letoured@sover.net wrote: > > > > > >YES, the round plug AC adapter works on ALL round plug = machines.. tested > > > >here, so dar: 701, all 770 series, 560, 570 and 600E.. > > > > > > >> Also, is the AC adapter advertised in the same offer = compatible with the > > > >> 560? I know it says it's for the 600, but is there any real = difference? > > > >> The part number is different from the one that I have but I'm = not sure > > > >> that has any meaning. I'm tempted by the thought of a $20 AC = adapter. > > > > > > Which AC Adapter is it? The 600E AC adapter produces 3.36 A, = while the > > > 560 AC adapter produces 2.2A. They both output 16V. --Are they > > > interchangeable? I don't know. > > > > > > _____________ > > > letoured@sover.net > > > > -- > > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > > > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage = will vary, > > Done on a > > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at = home.. > ________________________________________________________ > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage = will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01BED38E.9998D760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In most cases, more amp is not better = because it=20 could lead to thermal breakdown unless your device is designed to = run on=20 reverse bias - as some diodes are.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bill=20 Morrow
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 = 11:16=20 AM
Subject: Re: Interesting TP = accessory=20 prices

i KNEW i should have referred this question to = you..!!
now=20 explain ohms law and watts law, et al.,
(we will, for now, ignore = murphy's=20 law)

Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote:

> Bill Morrow = wrote:
>=20 >
> > Yes, they are..
> > amps is a measure of = how much=20 power can be drawn..
>
> Really *current*, but *power* is = correct=20 in this case because
> the voltage of both devices is the same. = In a=20 nutshell, the
> voltage is *produced* and the *current* or = *amperage*=20 value
> written on the specs is the maximum that can be drawn=20 from
> the device.
>
> > i know i'm not an = electrical=20 engineer, but suffice it to say, like memory and
> > win9x, = MORE is=20 BETTER in the case of amperage (which is, in basic terms, = the
>
>=20 and also in the case of $$$: MORE is BETTER if they are
> in my = account=20 but this is very personal... :-)
>
> > capacity of = available=20 power)..
> >
> > letoured@sover.net = wrote:
>=20 >
> > > >YES, the round plug AC adapter works on ALL = round=20 plug machines.. tested
> > > >here, so dar: 701, all = 770=20 series, 560, 570 and 600E..
> > >
> > > = >> Also,=20 is the AC adapter advertised in the same offer compatible with = the
>=20 > > >> 560?  I know it says it's for the 600, but is = there=20 any real difference?
> > > >> The part number is = different=20 from the one that I have but I'm not sure
> > > >> = that has=20 any meaning.  I'm tempted by the thought of a $20 AC = adapter.
>=20 > >
> > > Which AC Adapter is it?  The 600E AC = adapter=20 produces 3.36 A, while the
> > > 560 AC adapter produces = 2.2A.=20 They both output 16V.  --Are they
> > > = interchangeable? I=20 don't know.
> > >
> > > _____________
> = >=20 > letoured@sover.net
>=20 >
> > --
> > Live Long and Prosper, Happy=20 trails...
> >
> > ** Bill Morrow **   = :-)
>=20 > WEB page http://thinkpads.com
>=20 > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html<= /A>
>=20 > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop
> > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net
> = >=20 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al...
>=20 >
> > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior = sale, Your=20 mileage will vary,
> > Done on a
> > closed road = with a=20 professional driver AND Do not try this at home..
>=20 ________________________________________________________
> = NetZero - We=20 believe in a FREE Internet.  Shouldn't you?
> Get your FREE = Internet Access and Email at
> http://www.netzero.ne= t/download/index.html



--
Live=20 Long and Prosper, Happy trails...

** Bill Morrow **   = :-)
WEB page http://thinkpads.com
Thinkpad = User=20 Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html<= /A>
Compuserve=20 Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop
e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net
770Z-8AU= ,=20 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al...

Including, = but not=20 limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done
on=20 a
closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at=20 home..

------=_NextPart_000_0039_01BED38E.9998D760-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 21 18:44:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA17345 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:43:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05501; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:42:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05365; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05349; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:42:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:42:29 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-79.gate.net [207.36.212.79]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA195606; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:42:29 -0400 Message-ID: <37964CC9.E12A8AA1@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:42:17 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James CC: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices References: <199907211144.HAA23545@garnet.sover.net> <379603F5.57250DBD@icanect.net> <379608E5.909981AA@netzero.net> <37960E63.DAC1A628@icanect.net> <003c01bed3c9$49808800$75278ad1@ms461956> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------2CC6BE46D0B00E93B07B9CED" List-Unsubscribe: --------------2CC6BE46D0B00E93B07B9CED Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit would you please enlarge on that.. :-) ?? James wrote: > In most cases, more amp is not better because it could lead to > thermal breakdown unless your device is designed to run on reverse > bias - as some diodes are. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morrow > To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 11:16 AM > Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices > i KNEW i should have referred this question to you..!! > now explain ohms law and watts law, et al., > (we will, for now, ignore murphy's law) > > Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > > > Bill Morrow wrote: > > > > > > Yes, they are.. > > > amps is a measure of how much power can be drawn.. > > > > Really *current*, but *power* is correct in this case > because > > the voltage of both devices is the same. In a nutshell, > the > > voltage is *produced* and the *current* or *amperage* > value > > written on the specs is the maximum that can be drawn from > > > the device. > > > > > i know i'm not an electrical engineer, but suffice it to > say, like memory and > > > win9x, MORE is BETTER in the case of amperage (which is, > in basic terms, the > > > > and also in the case of $$$: MORE is BETTER if they are > > in my account but this is very personal... :-) > > > > > capacity of available power).. > > > > > > letoured@sover.net wrote: > > > > > > > >YES, the round plug AC adapter works on ALL round > plug machines.. tested > > > > >here, so dar: 701, all 770 series, 560, 570 and > 600E.. > > > > > > > > >> Also, is the AC adapter advertised in the same > offer compatible with the > > > > >> 560? I know it says it's for the 600, but is there > any real difference? > > > > >> The part number is different from the one that I > have but I'm not sure > > > > >> that has any meaning. I'm tempted by the thought > of a $20 AC adapter. > > > > > > > > Which AC Adapter is it? The 600E AC adapter produces > 3.36 A, while the > > > > 560 AC adapter produces 2.2A. They both output 16V. > --Are they > > > > interchangeable? I don't know. > > > > > > > > _____________ > > > > letoured@sover.net > > > > > > -- > > > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > > > > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et > al... > > > > > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, > Your mileage will vary, > > > Done on a > > > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try > this at home.. > > ________________________________________________________ > > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your > mileage will vary, Done > on a > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this > at home.. > -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. --------------2CC6BE46D0B00E93B07B9CED Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit would you please enlarge on that.. :-)  ??
 

James wrote:

  In most cases, more amp is not better because it could lead to thermal breakdown unless your device is designed to run on reverse bias - as some diodes are.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices
 i KNEW i should have referred this question to you..!!
now explain ohms law and watts law, et al.,
(we will, for now, ignore murphy's law)

Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote:

> Bill Morrow wrote:
> >
> > Yes, they are..
> > amps is a measure of how much power can be drawn..
>
> Really *current*, but *power* is correct in this case because
> the voltage of both devices is the same. In a nutshell, the
> voltage is *produced* and the *current* or *amperage* value
> written on the specs is the maximum that can be drawn from
> the device.
>
> > i know i'm not an electrical engineer, but suffice it to say, like memory and
> > win9x, MORE is BETTER in the case of amperage (which is, in basic terms, the
>
> and also in the case of $$$: MORE is BETTER if they are
> in my account but this is very personal... :-)
>
> > capacity of available power)..
> >
> > letoured@sover.net wrote:
> >
> > > >YES, the round plug AC adapter works on ALL round plug machines.. tested
> > > >here, so dar: 701, all 770 series, 560, 570 and 600E..
> > >
> > > >> Also, is the AC adapter advertised in the same offer compatible with the
> > > >> 560?  I know it says it's for the 600, but is there any real difference?
> > > >> The part number is different from the one that I have but I'm not sure
> > > >> that has any meaning.  I'm tempted by the thought of a $20 AC adapter.
> > >
> > > Which AC Adapter is it?  The 600E AC adapter produces 3.36 A, while the
> > > 560 AC adapter produces 2.2A. They both output 16V.  --Are they
> > > interchangeable? I don't know.
> > >
> > > _____________
> > > letoured@sover.net
> >
> > --
> > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails...
> >
> > ** Bill Morrow **   :-)
> > WEB page http://thinkpads.com
> > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html
> > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop
> > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net
> > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al...
> >
> > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary,
> > Done on a
> > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home..
> ________________________________________________________
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Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html
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e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net
770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al...

Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done
on a
closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home..

 

--
Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
WEB page http://thinkpads.com
Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html
Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop
e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net
770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al...

Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a
closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home..
  --------------2CC6BE46D0B00E93B07B9CED-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 21 19:01:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA17577 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06593; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:00:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:00:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06512; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.lax.netzero.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06498; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:00:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.lax.netzero.net (209.0.233.37 -> mail2.lax.netzero.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:00:06 -0400 Received: (qmail 4494 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 1999 22:59:58 -0000 Received: from pppa3-tucson10-3r344.saturn.bbn.com (HELO netzero.net) (4.11.217.137) by mail2.lax.netzero.net with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 22:59:58 -0000 Message-ID: <379650CC.30260482@netzero.net> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:59:24 -0700 From: Juan-Carlos Lerman Reply-To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices References: <199907211144.HAA23545@garnet.sover.net> <379603F5.57250DBD@icanect.net> <379608E5.909981AA@netzero.net> <37960E63.DAC1A628@icanect.net> <003c01bed3c9$49808800$75278ad1@ms461956> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: orialy21 said: > In most cases, more amp is not better because it could > lead to thermal breakdown unless your device is > designed to run on reverse bias - as some diodes are. Can you explain what do you really mean and how does it relate to the problem? It's my (poor) understanding that the power adaptor is a constant *voltage* source, not a constant *current* source. In consequence the amperage drawn from it is only dependent on the resistance of the device connected to the output of the power supply. And this follows Ohm's law: current(in amps) = voltage(in volts) / resistance(in ohms) In other words the adaptor will supply the device with any amperage as required by the device, up to the maximum value indicated on the label. Above that, expect thermal breakdown. JC === ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 21 19:13:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA17704 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:13:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07552; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:12:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:12:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07424; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.mindspring.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07410; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:12:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.mindspring.com (207.69.200.31 -> smtp1.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:12:03 -0400 Received: from ms461956 (pool-209-138-37-95.irvn.grid.net [209.138.37.95]) by smtp1.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA02541; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:11:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <007d01bed3ce$85eedc60$75278ad1@ms461956> Reply-To: "James" From: "James" To: , References: <199907211144.HAA23545@garnet.sover.net> <379603F5.57250DBD@icanect.net> <379608E5.909981AA@netzero.net> <37960E63.DAC1A628@icanect.net> <003c01bed3c9$49808800$75278ad1@ms461956> <379650CC.30260482@netzero.net> Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:12:33 -0700 Organization: US EPA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007A_01BED393.D6F9C920" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01BED393.D6F9C920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill and Juan-Carlos, The point I was trying to make is that "more amp is not necessary better = than less" as Bill have indicated in his original posting. And the = reason is because it causes thermal breakdown. Thermal breakdown occurs when there is an excess amount of current = across a cross area of a conducting medium per unit second. In semiconductor language, what this means is that the current causes an = the rate of charge separation is faster than the rate of recombination. Above all, the point is that "more amp is not necessary better," a = concept that all devices or electrical engineers should know. Like what = Juan-Carlos said, assuming resistance is constant, then the voltage = across the device determines the amp passing through it. Thanks James ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Juan-Carlos Lerman=20 To: James ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 3:59 PM Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices orialy21 said: > In most cases, more amp is not better because it could=20 > lead to thermal breakdown unless your device is > designed to run on reverse bias - as some diodes are. Can you explain what do you really mean and how does it relate to the problem? It's my (poor) understanding that the power adaptor is a constant *voltage* source, not a constant=20 *current* source. In consequence the amperage drawn from it is only dependent on the resistance of the device connected to the output of the power supply.=20 And this follows Ohm's law: current(in amps) =3D voltage(in volts) / resistance(in ohms) In other words the adaptor will supply the device=20 with any amperage as required by the device, up to the maximum value indicated on the label. Above that, expect thermal breakdown. JC =3D=3D=3D ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01BED393.D6F9C920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Bill and Juan-Carlos,
The point I was trying to make is that = "more amp is=20 not necessary better than less" as Bill have indicated in his original = posting.=20 And the reason is because it causes thermal breakdown.
 
Thermal breakdown occurs when there is = an excess=20 amount of current across a cross area of a conducting medium per unit=20 second.
 
In semiconductor language, what this = means is that=20 the current causes an the rate of charge separation is faster than the = rate of=20 recombination.
 
Above all, the point is that "more amp = is not=20 necessary better," a concept that all devices or electrical engineers = should=20 know. Like what Juan-Carlos said, assuming resistance is constant, then = the=20 voltage across the device determines the amp passing through = it.
 
Thanks
James
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Juan-Carlos=20 Lerman
To: James=20 ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 = 3:59=20 PM
Subject: Re: Interesting TP = accessory=20 prices

orialy21 said:

> In most cases, more amp is = not=20 better because it could
> lead to thermal breakdown unless your = device=20 is
> designed to run on reverse bias - as some diodes = are.

Can=20 you explain what do you really mean and how
does it relate to the=20 problem?

It's my (poor) understanding that the power = adaptor
is a=20 constant *voltage* source, not a constant
*current* = source.

In=20 consequence the amperage drawn from it is only
dependent on the = resistance=20 of the device connected
to the output of the power supply. =

And this=20 follows Ohm's law:

current(in amps) =3D voltage(in volts) / = resistance(in=20 ohms)

In other words the adaptor will supply the device =
with any=20 amperage as required by the device, up
to the maximum value = indicated on=20 the label. Above
that, expect thermal=20 = breakdown.

JC




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http://www.netzero.ne= t/download/index.html ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01BED393.D6F9C920-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 00:15:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA20963 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:15:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18460; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:11:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:10:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18339; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18323; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:10:07 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-294.gate.net [199.227.131.103]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA360722; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:09:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3796997E.953C6FC5@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:09:34 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James CC: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices References: <199907211144.HAA23545@garnet.sover.net> <379603F5.57250DBD@icanect.net> <379608E5.909981AA@netzero.net> <37960E63.DAC1A628@icanect.net> <003c01bed3c9$49808800$75278ad1@ms461956> <379650CC.30260482@netzero.net> <007d01bed3ce$85eedc60$75278ad1@ms461956> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------BDDD4B2FF2FAD4F17A5FF5C0" List-Unsubscribe: --------------BDDD4B2FF2FAD4F17A5FF5C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ummm... as a practical matter, i have and will continue to use AC adapters from the 755, 701, 560, 600 and various 770's and any or all of the preceeding machines.. with, to date, no apparent thermal damage.. in fact, i have not had to send any thinkpad (yet) for service due to electronic failure.. James wrote: > Bill and Juan-Carlos,The point I was trying to make is that "more > amp is not necessary better than less" as Bill have indicated in his > original posting. And the reason is because it causes thermal > breakdown. Thermal breakdown occurs when there is an excess amount of > current across a cross area of a conducting medium per unit second. In > semiconductor language, what this means is that the current causes an > the rate of charge separation is faster than the rate of > recombination. Above all, the point is that "more amp is not necessary > better," a concept that all devices or electrical engineers should > know. Like what Juan-Carlos said, assuming resistance is constant, > then the voltage across the device determines the amp passing through > it. ThanksJames > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Juan-Carlos Lerman > To: James ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 3:59 PM > Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices > orialy21 said: > > > In most cases, more amp is not better because it could > > lead to thermal breakdown unless your device is > > designed to run on reverse bias - as some diodes are. > > Can you explain what do you really mean and how > does it relate to the problem? > > It's my (poor) understanding that the power adaptor > is a constant *voltage* source, not a constant > *current* source. > > In consequence the amperage drawn from it is only > dependent on the resistance of the device connected > to the output of the power supply. > > And this follows Ohm's law: > > current(in amps) = voltage(in volts) / resistance(in ohms) > > In other words the adaptor will supply the device > with any amperage as required by the device, up > to the maximum value indicated on the label. Above > that, expect thermal breakdown. > > JC > > > > > === > ________________________________________________________ > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. --------------BDDD4B2FF2FAD4F17A5FF5C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ummm...

as a practical matter, i have and will continue to use AC adapters from the 755, 701, 560, 600 and various 770's and any or all of the preceeding machines.. with, to date, no apparent thermal damage..
in fact, i have not had to send any thinkpad (yet) for service due to electronic failure..

James wrote:

  Bill and Juan-Carlos,The point I was trying to make is that "more amp is not necessary better than less" as Bill have indicated in his original posting. And the reason is because it causes thermal breakdown. Thermal breakdown occurs when there is an excess amount of current across a cross area of a conducting medium per unit second. In semiconductor language, what this means is that the current causes an the rate of charge separation is faster than the rate of recombination. Above all, the point is that "more amp is not necessary better," a concept that all devices or electrical engineers should know. Like what Juan-Carlos said, assuming resistance is constant, then the voltage across the device determines the amp passing through it. ThanksJames 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices
 orialy21 said:

> In most cases, more amp is not better because it could
> lead to thermal breakdown unless your device is
> designed to run on reverse bias - as some diodes are.

Can you explain what do you really mean and how
does it relate to the problem?

It's my (poor) understanding that the power adaptor
is a constant *voltage* source, not a constant
*current* source.

In consequence the amperage drawn from it is only
dependent on the resistance of the device connected
to the output of the power supply.

And this follows Ohm's law:

current(in amps) = voltage(in volts) / resistance(in ohms)

In other words the adaptor will supply the device
with any amperage as required by the device, up
to the maximum value indicated on the label. Above
that, expect thermal breakdown.

JC
 
 
 

===
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WEB page http://thinkpads.com
Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html
Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop
e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net
770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al...

Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a
closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home..
  --------------BDDD4B2FF2FAD4F17A5FF5C0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 00:15:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA20968 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:15:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18878; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:14:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:13:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18757; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:13:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18744; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:13:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:13:34 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-294.gate.net [199.227.131.103]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA158882; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:13:11 -0400 Message-ID: <37969A4B.18E1F84C@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:12:59 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jfieber@indiana.edu CC: "Derek L. Seaman" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 600E HD died fast References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: IMO a "requirement" that a TP owner "Register" a machine for international warranty, means that, along with a visa and air ticket, you must now add registering for that countries IBM warranty service.. HUH..?? i don't think that htat is reasonable..! jfieber@indiana.edu wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Derek L. Seaman wrote: > > > I'm so freaking mad! There was no warning...and I didn't drop the drive or > > laptop. Now I'm screwed in Spain!! Damn IBM. > > And the reason I bought IBM...the best international warranty > support around...you did register for it didn't you? > > -john -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 01:42:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA21683 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22103; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:39:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22004; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:39:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21991; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (207.69.200.30 -> smtp0.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:39:01 -0400 Received: from ms461956 (pool-209-138-36-164.irvn.grid.net [209.138.36.164]) by smtp0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA15710; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002501bed404$9323b0a0$a4248ad1@ms461956> Reply-To: "James" From: "James" To: "Bill Morrow" Cc: , References: <199907211144.HAA23545@garnet.sover.net> <379603F5.57250DBD@icanect.net> <379608E5.909981AA@netzero.net> <37960E63.DAC1A628@icanect.net> <003c01bed3c9$49808800$75278ad1@ms461956> <379650CC.30260482@netzero.net> <007d01bed3ce$85eedc60$75278ad1@ms461956> <3796997E.953C6FC5@icanect.net> Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:39:27 -0700 Organization: US EPA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01BED3C9.E3D18940" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01BED3C9.E3D18940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No no... I am not saying the AC adapter will fail, I was refer to the = fact that "more amps is not always better" in general - or from a = device or EE engineering point of view. As my previous posting said, it = is "not always better." As my posting indicates, I didn't refer or make reference to the AC = adapter. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Morrow=20 To: James=20 Cc: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 9:09 PM Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices ummm...=20 as a practical matter, i have and will continue to use AC adapters = >from the 755, 701, 560, 600 and various 770's and any or all of the = preceeding machines.. with, to date, no apparent thermal damage..=20 in fact, i have not had to send any thinkpad (yet) for service due to = electronic failure..=20 James wrote:=20 Bill and Juan-Carlos,The point I was trying to make is that "more = amp is not necessary better than less" as Bill have indicated in his = original posting. And the reason is because it causes thermal breakdown. = Thermal breakdown occurs when there is an excess amount of current = across a cross area of a conducting medium per unit second. In = semiconductor language, what this means is that the current causes an = the rate of charge separation is faster than the rate of recombination. = Above all, the point is that "more amp is not necessary better," a = concept that all devices or electrical engineers should know. Like what = Juan-Carlos said, assuming resistance is constant, then the voltage = across the device determines the amp passing through it. ThanksJames =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Juan-Carlos Lerman To: James ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 3:59 PM Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices orialy21 said:=20 > In most cases, more amp is not better because it could=20 > lead to thermal breakdown unless your device is=20 > designed to run on reverse bias - as some diodes are.=20 Can you explain what do you really mean and how=20 does it relate to the problem?=20 It's my (poor) understanding that the power adaptor=20 is a constant *voltage* source, not a constant=20 *current* source.=20 In consequence the amperage drawn from it is only=20 dependent on the resistance of the device connected=20 to the output of the power supply.=20 And this follows Ohm's law:=20 current(in amps) =3D voltage(in volts) / resistance(in ohms)=20 In other words the adaptor will supply the device=20 with any amperage as required by the device, up=20 to the maximum value indicated on the label. Above=20 that, expect thermal breakdown.=20 JC=20 =20 =20 =20 =3D=3D=3D=20 ________________________________________________________=20 NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you?=20 Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at=20 http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html =20 --=20 Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails...=20 ** Bill Morrow ** :-)=20 WEB page http://thinkpads.com=20 Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html=20 Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop=20 e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net=20 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al...=20 Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage = will vary, Done on a=20 closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home..=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01BED3C9.E3D18940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

No no... I am not saying the AC adapter = will fail,=20 I was refer to the fact that "more amps is not always better" in general = - =20 or from a device or EE engineering point of view. As my previous posting = said,=20 it is "not always better."
 
As my posting indicates, I didn't refer = or make=20 reference to the AC adapter.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bill=20 Morrow
To: James=20
Cc: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 = 9:09=20 PM
Subject: Re: Interesting TP = accessory=20 prices

ummm...=20

as a practical matter, i have and will continue to use AC adapters = >from the=20 755, 701, 560, 600 and various 770's and any or all of the preceeding=20 machines.. with, to date, no apparent thermal damage..
in fact, i = have not=20 had to send any thinkpad (yet) for service due to electronic failure.. =

James wrote:=20

  Bill and = Juan-Carlos,The point I was trying to make is that = "more amp is=20 not necessary better than less" as Bill have indicated in his = original=20 posting. And the reason is because it causes thermal=20 breakdown. Thermal=20 breakdown occurs when there is an excess amount of current across a = cross=20 area of a conducting medium per unit = second. In semiconductor language, what this = means is that=20 the current causes an the rate of charge separation is faster than = the rate=20 of recombination. Above=20 all, the point is that "more amp is not necessary better," a concept = that=20 all devices or electrical engineers should know. Like what = Juan-Carlos said,=20 assuming resistance is constant, then the voltage across the device=20 determines the amp passing through it. ThanksJames =20
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Juan-Carlos Lerman
To: James ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, = 1999 3:59=20 PM
Subject: Re: Interesting TP = accessory=20 prices
 orialy21 said:=20

> In most cases, more amp is not better because it could =
>=20 lead to thermal breakdown unless your device is
> designed = to run=20 on reverse bias - as some diodes are.=20

Can you explain what do you really mean and how
does it = relate to=20 the problem?=20

It's my (poor) understanding that the power adaptor
is a = constant=20 *voltage* source, not a constant
*current* source.=20

In consequence the amperage drawn from it is only
dependent = on the=20 resistance of the device connected
to the output of the power = supply.=20

And this follows Ohm's law:=20

current(in amps) =3D voltage(in volts) / resistance(in ohms)=20

In other words the adaptor will supply the device
with any = amperage=20 as required by the device, up
to the maximum value indicated = on the=20 label. Above
that, expect thermal breakdown.=20

JC
 
 
 =20

=3D=3D=3D =
________________________________________________________=20
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770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, = 750C et=20 al...=20

Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage = will=20 vary, Done on a
closed road with a professional driver AND Do not = try this=20 at home..
 

------=_NextPart_000_0022_01BED3C9.E3D18940-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 04:40:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA22556 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 04:40:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29524; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 04:39:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 04:37:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29249; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 04:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29234; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 04:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.20 -> tele-post-20.mail.demon.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 04:37:06 -0400 Received: from moab.demon.co.uk ([158.152.127.170]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 117ELc-000PBf-0K for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:37:02 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:32:07 +0100 To: ThinkPad From: Greg Terrell Subject: 770 modem cable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 U List-Unsubscribe: Hi Can anyone explain why the modem cable for a 770 (model 9549 1AO UK with internal modem) has 4 wires connected, that is all 4 contacts in the RJ- 11 at the 770 end whereas a "standard" cable only has the two centre wires connected? The question relates to replacement of my modem cable (IBM P/N 58G4345 RJ-11 to UK (BT) cable). I needed to replace the cable because the tab to remove the RJ-11 broke off. The IBM replacement has a shortened tab which requires insertion of a thin instrument to remove the plug. A third party replacement has 2 wires only connected as above. I am reluctant to try the third party replacement in case of damaging the modem. TIA -- Greg Terrell From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 07:11:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA23191 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:11:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09649; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:10:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:09:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09384; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:09:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omecihuatl.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09371; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:09:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omecihuatl.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (131.173.17.35 -> omecihuatl.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:09:09 -0400 Received: from leon.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (leon.cl-ki.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.157.232]) by omecihuatl.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17436 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:09:06 +0200 Received: from localhost (krumeich@localhost) by leon.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA06791 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:07:08 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: leon.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de: krumeich owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:07:08 +0200 (MEST) From: Alexander Krumeich Reply-To: Alexander Krumeich To: ThinkPad List Subject: MWave support for ThinkPads under Linux (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, everybody This came in on another ThinkPad/Linux related mailing list. Since I know that there are quite a few Linux users in this forum, I forward it to this list. Please take a look at it. It might be worth it. Alexander -- Alexander Krumeich http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ Never trust a HAL 9000 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:30:08 +0200 From: Bill Mair Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@www.bm-soft.com To: linux-thinkpad Subject: MWave support for ThinkPads under Linux Hi all, I received this message from Keith Frecette who is in IBMs MWave team: > Bill, > > I've been attempting to collect some statistical data to demonstrate to > ThinkPad that it is in our best interest to develop Mwave drivers for Linux. > Thomas Hood has been helping by collecting names of Linux users that have > expressed an interest in Linux support. > > Although IBM has not yet announced anything, the future does not look bleak. > > -- Keith I know that I would really like to have IBM support MWave in the Linux environment, so please, if you want this kind of support, let me know. I'll put together a list of the names/email addresses of the people wanting this and send it to Keith as a kind petition, it could help his cause, and give hime more material to convince IBM's management that there is a real need for this support amongst the Linux-ThinkPad community. Please address mails for this petition directly to me, as I don't want to have this mailing list filled with a couple of hundred "Me too"s. mailto:bill.mair@bm-soft.com?subject=Linux-MWave-Petition The above works on Netscape, not sure about other mailers though. Please be aware that I will be including both the names and email addresses of the people in the petition, I don't want to send Keith (IBM) a mail saying "150 members of the linux-thinkpad mailing list want/need MWave support", so please bear that in mind when sending in your name for addition to the petition. I will keep you all informed as to the number of people who will be on the petition. BTW the list now has more that 200 members ! Bill. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 09:00:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA23844 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14011; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:56:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:54:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13375; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:54:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.ibm.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13362; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.ibm.net (165.87.194.239 -> out4.ibm.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:53:57 -0400 Received: from ibm.net (slip139-92-192-114.por.uk.ibm.net [139.92.192.114]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA85360; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:53:49 GMT Message-ID: <37961EC3.78CF133@ibm.net> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:25:55 +0100 From: Tony Wright Organization: Equi-Tek CompCon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Morrow , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Interesting TP accessory prices References: <199907211144.HAA23545@garnet.sover.net> <379603F5.57250DBD@icanect.net> <379608E5.909981AA@netzero.net> <37960E63.DAC1A628@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bill Morrow wrote: > i KNEW i should have referred this question to you..!! > now explain ohms law and watts law, et al., > (we will, for now, ignore murphy's law) Too difficult - start off with the far easier Maxwell,Kirchoff and Thevenins theorems first.(you never know, you might then even end up with the correct answer to original problem.....) -- Rgds Tony W Email: horseman@ibm.net "humanum est errare: To err is human .... and to fail is to be a Project Manager... ...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!" From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 09:00:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA23845 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14013; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:54:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13444; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:54:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.ibm.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13421; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:54:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out4.ibm.net (165.87.194.239 -> out4.ibm.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:54:33 -0400 Received: from ibm.net (slip139-92-192-114.por.uk.ibm.net [139.92.192.114]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA51246; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:54:19 GMT Message-ID: <37970930.DEE61C29@ibm.net> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:06:08 +0100 From: Tony Wright Organization: Equi-Tek CompCon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: paulsch@ssec.wisc.edu CC: Bill Morrow , thinkpad reply Subject: Re: cd-rom drives for dock-II References: <3795EA3C.70FF817A@ssec.wisc.edu> <37960E06.6B830440@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bill Morrow wrote: > Paul.. > i don't THINK and TP CD's fit the dock-2.. > > if my memory is not totally fried, there was a special scsi IBM drive that > went in there.. > But if you want to expand your CD choices then consider reversing the locations(depending on formfactor of your/any existing HDD of course). Eg I fitted a Toshiba SCSI CD ROM in RH bay and placed a 4.3Gb SCSI HDD in LH side. Admittedly some butchery on front RH side of front facia was required in my case and additional home made "ally" brackets on LH side to secure HDD. I can understand these "mods" may not appeal for obvious reasons.... but price performance of appropriate IBM CDROM may also not be appealing either. > Paul Schnettler wrote: > > > Any list users have an idea which cd-rom unit "fits" best in the dock II > > unit? > > The 1/2 height bay on the left side below the LCD monitor display seems > > to be similar in size to the 755CD drive unit. > > The ibm site is somewhat confusing in that listed are a bundle of drives > > (with all the superceded FRU numbers et al...) > > Anyone have a suitable (relatively low speed/low end specs.) drive for > > sale...Bill? > > thanks, > > Paul Schnettler > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > vary, Done on a > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. -- Rgds Tony W Email: horseman@ibm.net "humanum est errare: To err is human .... and to fail is to be a Project Manager... ...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!" From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 09:05:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA23884 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:04:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14888; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:02:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14605; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:02:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.wineasy.se (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14590; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:02:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.wineasy.se (195.42.198.21 -> mail.wineasy.se) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:02:22 -0400 Received: from [195.42.201.16] by mail.wineasy.se (NTMail 3.03.0018/1.at1j) with ESMTP id xa759847 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:02:14 +0200 Message-ID: <379714F9.D8B5FE2@wineasy.se> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:56:26 +0200 From: Peter Wennersten Reply-To: peterw@wineasy.se X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad list Subject: Help: cannot stop Norton software from loading at startup Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I hope this is a question appropriate for this group. I just bought a 570 and have played around trying to customise desktop and startup etc. But I have one problem. I managed to get rid of all the progs in the system tray and other programs that I did not want to load at startup. But since I installed Norton Mobile Essentials I get an annoying dialog box from something called Location Controller (part of NME) at startup asking for the present location of the computer. I can't get rid of this "dialog box/program starting at boot", and I have no need of the program starting every time I boot. How can I stop it from starting. I have not been successful n finding the string that starts it either in the registry or in win/system.ini. Peter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 10:43:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA24742 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:43:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20407; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:42:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:40:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20230; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:40:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ww190.netaddress.usa.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20215; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ww190.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.90 -> ww190.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:40:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 2098 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jul 1999 14:40:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990722144040.2097.qmail@ww190.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.90 by ww190 via web-mailer(M3.2.0.53) on Thu Jul 22 14:40:40 GMT 1999 Date: 22 Jul 99 09:40:40 CDT From: Rob Bell To: peterw@wineasy.se, ThinkPad list Subject: Re: Help: cannot stop Norton software from loading at startup X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.2.0.53) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: There are a variety of places to look for auto-launched programs. I'm su= re you've checked a few of them out, but I'll list all that I know (assuming= Windows 95/98, but most apply to NT): 1. Start Menu...Programs...StartUp folder 2. Registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion= \Run subkeys 3. Registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices subkeys 4. Registry: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\= Run subkeys 5. Registry: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices subkeys 6. Win.ini 'Run=3D' key 7. Win.ini 'Load=3D' key 8. Rarely, but sometimes programs like NAV will launch Windows services v= ia Autoexec.bat The various run subkeys under HKEY_CURRENT_USER are often overlooked by p= eople searching for phantom programs that they don't want to auto-start. AOL's= Instant Messanger (from Netscape install) is notorious for this location.= If none of these help you, then search Norton's web site for tips on how to uninstall the product. HTH, Rob = Peter Wennersten wrote: > Hi, > = > I hope this is a question appropriate for this group. > = > I just bought a 570 and have played around trying to customise desktop > and startup etc. But I have one problem. I managed to get rid of all th= e > progs in the system tray and other programs that I did not want to load= > at startup. But since I installed Norton Mobile Essentials I get an > annoying dialog box from something called Location Controller (part of > NME) at startup asking for the present location of the computer. I can'= t > get rid of this "dialog box/program starting at boot", and I have no > need of the program starting every time I boot. > = > How can I stop it from starting. I have not been successful n finding > the string that starts it either in the registry or in win/system.ini. > = > Peter > = ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 11:53:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA25524 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:53:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24965; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:52:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:51:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24748; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:51:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24702; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:50:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (204.181.57.64 -> p57064.syspac.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:50:29 -0400 Received: by pyrrhus.pyrrhusoft.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m117L4c-0000zPC; Thu, 22 Jul 99 08:47 MST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jul 99 08:47 MST From: jones@pyrrhusoft.com (David Jones) To: penzance@icanect.net CC: paulsch@ssec.wisc.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: cd-rom drives for dock-II List-Unsubscribe: I have what I assume is the stock CD-ROM drive in my Dock II. The label on outside says "Toshiba XM 4101BMY". It looks like my other Toshiba drive, a 4301, connected to my desktop. When it identifies itself at boot time it says "IBM CDRM00201 !F293". David Jones ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:14:30 -0400 From: Bill Morrow Paul.. i don't THINK and TP CD's fit the dock-2.. if my memory is not totally fried, there was a special scsi IBM drive that went in there.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Schnettler wrote: > Any list users have an idea which cd-rom unit "fits" best in the dock II > unit? > The 1/2 height bay on the left side below the LCD monitor display seems > to be similar in size to the 755CD drive unit. > The ibm site is somewhat confusing in that listed are a bundle of drives > (with all the superceded FRU numbers et al...) > Anyone have a suitable (relatively low speed/low end specs.) drive for > sale...Bill? > thanks, > Paul Schnettler From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 12:27:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA25861 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:27:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28122; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:26:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:24:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27568; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:24:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27543; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:24:40 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-506.gate.net [199.227.173.252]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA204312; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:24:43 -0400 Message-ID: <379745BE.4337FBCF@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:24:30 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peterw@wineasy.se CC: ThinkPad list Subject: Re: Help: cannot stop Norton software from loading at startup References: <379714F9.D8B5FE2@wineasy.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: did you try your startup group.. i THINK it might be in there.. Peter Wennersten wrote: > Hi, > > I hope this is a question appropriate for this group. > > I just bought a 570 and have played around trying to customise desktop > and startup etc. But I have one problem. I managed to get rid of all the > progs in the system tray and other programs that I did not want to load > at startup. But since I installed Norton Mobile Essentials I get an > annoying dialog box from something called Location Controller (part of > NME) at startup asking for the present location of the computer. I can't > get rid of this "dialog box/program starting at boot", and I have no > need of the program starting every time I boot. > > How can I stop it from starting. I have not been successful n finding > the string that starts it either in the registry or in win/system.ini. > > Peter -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 12:27:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA25877 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:27:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27302; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:22:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27120; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:22:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27106; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:22:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:22:29 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-506.gate.net [199.227.173.252]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA327764; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:21:36 -0400 Message-ID: <379744D0.F30740E3@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:20:32 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Terrell CC: ThinkPad Subject: Re: 770 modem cable References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Greg.. i see no reason not to use 2 wire, unless Brit Telcom requires 4 wire for some arcane reason.. (and after witnessing what you guys call "mixer faucets" ANYTHING is possible) here in the US i use both 2 and 4 wire.. whatever happens to fall to hand when i need a telephone cable.. in fact, i have seen ibm cables with only 2 centre wires in place.. the only aspect i must further comment on is that, in some cases, with mulit-line and multi-station telephone systems (office and home) the stations can use 4 wire cables and the orientation of the rj-11 plugs on each end will be of concern.. i.e. red winds up matched with red on each socket.. (wall and station set).. or, polarity might be important with the brit telcom.. Greg Terrell wrote: > Hi > > Can anyone explain why the modem cable for a 770 (model 9549 1AO UK with > internal modem) has 4 wires connected, that is all 4 contacts in the RJ- > 11 at the 770 end whereas a "standard" cable only has the two centre > wires connected? > > The question relates to replacement of my modem cable (IBM P/N 58G4345 > RJ-11 to UK (BT) cable). I needed to replace the cable because the tab > to remove the RJ-11 broke off. The IBM replacement has a shortened tab > which requires insertion of a thin instrument to remove the plug. A > third party replacement has 2 wires only connected as above. I am > reluctant to try the third party replacement in case of damaging the > modem. > > TIA > -- > Greg Terrell -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 12:34:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA26006 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28878; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:33:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:32:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28712; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:32:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28638; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (24.112.32.20 -> smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:32:25 -0400 Received: from mail.on.rogers.wave.ca ([24.112.32.4]:58267 "EHLO mail.on.rogers.wave.ca" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <512683-183>; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:30:49 -0400 Received: from cr394328-a.rchrd1.on.wave.home.com ([24.112.93.189]:1545 "HELO actprod" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mail.on.rogers.wave.ca with SMTP id <324674-486>; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:31:54 -0400 From: "Tom Trottier" Organization: ACT Productions Inc., 199-K1S 2P3, Ottawa To: Peter Wennersten , ThinkPad list Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:31:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Help: cannot stop Norton software from loading at startup Reply-to: tom@act.ca Priority: urgent In-reply-to: <379714F9.D8B5FE2@wineasy.se> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-Id: <19990722163201Z324674-486+25@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> List-Unsubscribe: PC Magazine has a utilility, "Startup Cop", which should help you. Tom --- Original Message --- Date sent: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:56:26 +0200 From: Peter Wennersten > I just bought a 570 and have played around trying to customise desktop > and startup etc. But I have one problem. I managed to get rid of all the > progs in the system tray and other programs that I did not want to load > at startup. But since I installed Norton Mobile Essentials I get an > annoying dialog box from something called Location Controller (part of > NME) at startup asking for the present location of the computer. I can't > get rid of this "dialog box/program starting at boot", and I have no > need of the program starting every time I boot. > > How can I stop it from starting. I have not been successful n finding > the string that starts it either in the registry or in win/system.ini. ------------------ From:Tom Trottier, ACT Productions Inc. __o tom@act.ca http://www.act.ca _ \< +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 (*)/'(*) 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 2P3 "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 12:36:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA26038 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:36:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29577; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:34:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29145; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mill.cisco.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29041; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:34:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from mill.cisco.com (161.44.200.11 -> mill.cisco.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:34:12 -0400 Received: from mill.cisco.com (mill.cisco.com [161.44.200.11]) by mill.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA28631; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:33:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:33:08 -0400 (EDT) To: Bill Morrow cc: Greg Terrell , ThinkPad Subject: Re: 770 modem cable In-Reply-To: <379744D0.F30740E3@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Well, honestly, unless it's under warranty, it's probably cheaper to get a crimper and a couple RJ-11 ends from Radio Shack -- take you 30 seconds to cut the old end off, and crimp on the new. As for the UK, no, they only use one pair ("tip and ring," the same as here in the states). Their connectors are different, though, which means I don't know the pinouts -- in the US, the first pair is the middle two (usually red and green), and the second pair is the outside. However, it really doesn't matter -- your connector will work fine with just the inner pair, as that's all that the (US) modem gives a hoot about. -Ken On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Bill Morrow wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:20:32 -0400 > From: Bill Morrow > To: Greg Terrell > Cc: ThinkPad > Subject: Re: 770 modem cable > > Greg.. > > i see no reason not to use 2 wire, unless Brit Telcom requires 4 wire for > some arcane reason.. > (and after witnessing what you guys call "mixer faucets" ANYTHING is > possible) > > here in the US i use both 2 and 4 wire.. whatever happens to fall to hand > when i need a telephone cable.. > in fact, i have seen ibm cables with only 2 centre wires in place.. > > the only aspect i must further comment on is that, in some cases, with > mulit-line and multi-station telephone systems (office and home) the > stations can use 4 wire cables and the orientation of the rj-11 plugs on > each end will be of concern.. > i.e. red winds up matched with red on each socket.. (wall and station set).. > > or, polarity might be important with the brit telcom.. > > Greg Terrell wrote: > > > Hi > > > > Can anyone explain why the modem cable for a 770 (model 9549 1AO UK with > > internal modem) has 4 wires connected, that is all 4 contacts in the RJ- > > 11 at the 770 end whereas a "standard" cable only has the two centre > > wires connected? > > > > The question relates to replacement of my modem cable (IBM P/N 58G4345 > > RJ-11 to UK (BT) cable). I needed to replace the cable because the tab > > to remove the RJ-11 broke off. The IBM replacement has a shortened tab > > which requires insertion of a thin instrument to remove the plug. A > > third party replacement has 2 wires only connected as above. I am > > reluctant to try the third party replacement in case of damaging the > > modem. > > > > TIA > > -- > > Greg Terrell > > > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > vary, Done on a > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 12:42:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA26124 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:42:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00386; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:41:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00182; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00163; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:40:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (209.228.14.77 -> c004-h006.c004.sfo.cp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:40:59 -0400 Received: (cpmta 7618 invoked from network); 22 Jul 1999 09:40:55 -0700 Received: from thinkpad600.brightware.com (HELO THINKPAD600) (206.156.118.251) by smtp.detayls.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 1999 09:40:55 -0700 X-Sent: 22 Jul 1999 16:40:55 GMT Message-ID: <001b01bed461$099b4700$fb769cce@THINKPAD600> From: "David W. Taylor" To: , "ThinkPad list" References: <379714F9.D8B5FE2@wineasy.se> Subject: Re: Help: cannot stop Norton software from loading at startup Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:41:23 -0700 Organization: Detayls MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: Frankly, this is one of the reasons that I have learned to avoid Symantec's utility software. There always seem to be issues like this. Have you considered Add/Remove Programs as the solution? David ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Wennersten To: ThinkPad list Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 5:56 AM Subject: Help: cannot stop Norton software from loading at startup > Hi, > > I hope this is a question appropriate for this group. > > I just bought a 570 and have played around trying to customise desktop > and startup etc. But I have one problem. I managed to get rid of all the > progs in the system tray and other programs that I did not want to load > at startup. But since I installed Norton Mobile Essentials I get an > annoying dialog box from something called Location Controller (part of > NME) at startup asking for the present location of the computer. I can't > get rid of this "dialog box/program starting at boot", and I have no > need of the program starting every time I boot. > > How can I stop it from starting. I have not been successful n finding > the string that starts it either in the registry or in win/system.ini. > > Peter > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 13:16:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA26499 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02436; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:14:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02134; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:14:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02117; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:13:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (204.101.251.53 -> smtp11.bellglobal.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:13:53 -0400 Received: from mpro1 (ppp8342.on.bellglobal.com [207.236.124.6]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA08246 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:17:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <068301bed466$3fec5c40$277ceccf@mpro1> Reply-To: "Carlos de la Puente" From: "Carlos de la Puente" To: "thinkpad reply" Subject: Re: cd-rom drives for dock-II Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:17:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: >i don't THINK and TP CD's fit the dock-2.. I don't have the specifics handy, but there is a tray that fits in the slim-high bay and is used to mount some ThinkPad CD-ROM's. The IDE cable in the Dock II connects to this tray which -- in turn -- has a connector for the CD-ROM. The CD-ROM that was designed for the Dock I & II is hard to find and they are usually high-priced. It's sibling (Toshiba XM-4101BME) is a nice fit, but ingenuity is required to attach it to the Dock II slim-high bay (as none of the Dock II's bays have any screw holes in them). The bezel is tan, but it can be painted black. Since most Dock II owners just want it to load software, a 2x speed is sufficient. The half-height bay needs the side railings to mount a CD-ROM, a 3.5" HDD would need the PS/2-style bracket or tray (sides or bottom). If you ever owned PS/2's, you probably have a bunch of these lying around. Carlos. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 15:59:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA28683 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:59:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12988; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:49:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:49:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12846; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:49:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhuml2.hcf.jhu.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12831; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:48:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhuml2.hcf.jhu.edu (128.220.2.87 -> jhuml2.hcf.jhu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:48:55 -0400 Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu [128.220.2.5]) by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V5.2-29 #37929) with ESMTP id <01JDVCIP0AU0F5N6PV@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:48:31 EDT Received: (from thood@localhost) by jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA61933 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:48:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:48:27 -0400 (EDT) From: thood@jhu.edu (J.d.thomas Hood) Subject: tpctl 0.5.4-1 release candidate -- please test To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <199907221948.PAA61933@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello all, This message will be of interest to users of Linux on IBM ThinkPads. tpctl is a ThinkPad configuration tool for Linux, designed to do under Linux what PS2.exe does under DOS and the ThinkPad Configuration program does under Windows. tpctl has been coming along and now has the capability to change the i/o-addresses and irqs of the serial and parallel ports. Version 0.5.4 is a candidate for release as a "stable version". However I would like to have it better tested before announcing it on Freshmeat. It would be very helpful to me if many of you would download this release, install it and test out its features. Please send me reports of how the whole process goes. Download the rpm and/or the tarball via: http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~thood/tpctldown.htm Note: Unlike the functions that were implemented in 0.3.x, the resource-control features that have been added in 0.5.x talk directly to hardware registers: they do not make use of the SMAPI BIOS built into most ThinkPads. Consequently there is a greater risk that these features will not work on every ThinkPad--although they have proved to work on a ThinkPad 600, a ThinkPad 770X and a ThinkPad 380Z. Feedback about these features would be especially useful to me. Thanks, -- Thomas Hood thood@jhu.edu tpctl home page: http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~thood/tpctlhome.htm "Linux on ThinkPad 600" page: http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~thood/tp600lnx.htm From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 16:03:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA28774 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:03:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13632; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:58:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13508; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.dwave.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13487; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:57:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.dwave.net (207.0.68.7 -> home.dwave.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:57:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.9.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id OAA30387 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:59:18 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:59:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ThinkPad sound under Linux, anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I've finally got linux (and Gnome!) running on my 750P, but without sound. I believe the 750 has the CS4231 chip -- can anyone confirm that? The kernel has a "ad1848" sound driver that says it should work with the CS4231 chip. Has anyone gotten sound under linux to work on a 750 machine? Anyone else tried? Chris Schumann "I am a cipher, wrapped in an enigma, smothered in secret sauce." - Jimmy James, News Radio From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 17:30:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA29964 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:30:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19962; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:29:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:27:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19798; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:27:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.nps.navy.mil (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19771; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:27:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.nps.navy.mil (131.120.43.88 -> mail.nps.navy.mil) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:27:36 -0400 Received: from [131.120.179.253] (budden.stl.nps.navy.mil [131.120.179.253]) by mail.nps.navy.mil (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10294 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: budden@pop.nps.navy.mil Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199907221858.OAA09850@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:25:27 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Rex Buddenberg Subject: Re: subscription request List-Unsubscribe: >budden@nps.navy.mil has been added to the thinkpad@cs.utk.edu mailing list. > >Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, I have two handmedown thinkpads that I'd like to get Linux into. 1. Thinkpad 510Cs. Plussed up to 20M RAM; loads the kernel ok. But I'm having a dickens of a time getting a clean install. This beast will boot MSDOS off the floppy, but every time I try to boot Linux off floppy I get a 'boot failed' error. Anybody know how to fool it into booting the RedHat boot disk? 2. Thinkpad 720C. This one boots floppies ok, but I can't find memory cards to boost it up past the 4M that's on the motherboard. I need: IBM FRU Kingston part # 07G1415 KTM-TP700/4 4M PCMCIA (aka credit card) RAM 07G1416 KTM-TP700/8 8M .... one of each. I've tried IBM and several Kingston distributors, all dry. (And yes, I tried the RAM card for the 510Cs in the 720C ... it won't work). b From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 17:59:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA00431 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:59:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21658; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:52:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:51:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21558; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:51:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21522; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:51:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:51:26 -0400 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA51209; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:50:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:50:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Vincent Poy To: Bill Morrow cc: Greg Terrell , ThinkPad Subject: Re: 770 modem cable In-Reply-To: <379744D0.F30740E3@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Bill Morrow wrote: Hello Bill, > Greg.. > > i see no reason not to use 2 wire, unless Brit Telcom requires 4 wire for > some arcane reason.. > (and after witnessing what you guys call "mixer faucets" ANYTHING is > possible) > here in the US i use both 2 and 4 wire.. whatever happens to fall to hand > when i need a telephone cable.. > in fact, i have seen ibm cables with only 2 centre wires in place.. It's actually 2, 4 and 6 in the US for RJ11C. My 770Z and 3Com 10/100 + 56k modem card came with 4 wire. Each pair is needed for one phone line. My Telebit modem which is considered real high-end comes with a 6 wire cable and a balun. > the only aspect i must further comment on is that, in some cases, with > mulit-line and multi-station telephone systems (office and home) the > stations can use 4 wire cables and the orientation of the rj-11 plugs on > each end will be of concern.. > i.e. red winds up matched with red on each socket.. (wall and station set).. > > or, polarity might be important with the brit telcom.. Actually, the wiring should be pin 1 to pin 4, pin 2 to 3, pin 3 to 2, pin 4 to 1 for data/voice. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > Greg Terrell wrote: > > > Hi > > > > Can anyone explain why the modem cable for a 770 (model 9549 1AO UK with > > internal modem) has 4 wires connected, that is all 4 contacts in the RJ- > > 11 at the 770 end whereas a "standard" cable only has the two centre > > wires connected? > > > > The question relates to replacement of my modem cable (IBM P/N 58G4345 > > RJ-11 to UK (BT) cable). I needed to replace the cable because the tab > > to remove the RJ-11 broke off. The IBM replacement has a shortened tab > > which requires insertion of a thin instrument to remove the plug. A > > third party replacement has 2 wires only connected as above. I am > > reluctant to try the third party replacement in case of damaging the > > modem. > > > > TIA > > -- > > Greg Terrell > > > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > vary, Done on a > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 18:10:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA00551 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22743; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:04:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22642; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:04:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22626; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:04:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:04:35 -0400 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA51260; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:04:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:04:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Vincent Poy To: kend@cisco.com cc: Bill Morrow , Greg Terrell , ThinkPad Subject: Re: 770 modem cable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 kend@cisco.com wrote: Actually, Radio Shack is expensive... MilesTek (www.milestek.com) would be the better place since the RJ-11 ends cost 0.25 each for RJ-11 in either 2, 4 or 6 configurations and RJ-45 8 pin for the same price... Wire is 0.04 a foot for 4 wire and 0.06 a foot for 6 wire. Noticed you're >from Cisco, do you happen to know if a 2924XL Catalyst switch is Layer 2 or is it Layer 3? Also, what's the difference between the 3640 and the 4500/4700 routers? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > Well, honestly, unless it's under warranty, it's probably cheaper to get a > crimper and a couple RJ-11 ends from Radio Shack -- take you 30 seconds to > cut the old end off, and crimp on the new. As for the UK, no, they only > use one pair ("tip and ring," the same as here in the states). Their > connectors are different, though, which means I don't know the pinouts -- > in the US, the first pair is the middle two (usually red and green), and > the second pair is the outside. However, it really doesn't matter -- your > connector will work fine with just the inner pair, as that's all that the > (US) modem gives a hoot about. > > -Ken > > On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Bill Morrow wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:20:32 -0400 > > From: Bill Morrow > > To: Greg Terrell > > Cc: ThinkPad > > Subject: Re: 770 modem cable > > > > Greg.. > > > > i see no reason not to use 2 wire, unless Brit Telcom requires 4 wire for > > some arcane reason.. > > (and after witnessing what you guys call "mixer faucets" ANYTHING is > > possible) > > > > here in the US i use both 2 and 4 wire.. whatever happens to fall to hand > > when i need a telephone cable.. > > in fact, i have seen ibm cables with only 2 centre wires in place.. > > > > the only aspect i must further comment on is that, in some cases, with > > mulit-line and multi-station telephone systems (office and home) the > > stations can use 4 wire cables and the orientation of the rj-11 plugs on > > each end will be of concern.. > > i.e. red winds up matched with red on each socket.. (wall and station set).. > > > > or, polarity might be important with the brit telcom.. > > > > Greg Terrell wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > Can anyone explain why the modem cable for a 770 (model 9549 1AO UK with > > > internal modem) has 4 wires connected, that is all 4 contacts in the RJ- > > > 11 at the 770 end whereas a "standard" cable only has the two centre > > > wires connected? > > > > > > The question relates to replacement of my modem cable (IBM P/N 58G4345 > > > RJ-11 to UK (BT) cable). I needed to replace the cable because the tab > > > to remove the RJ-11 broke off. The IBM replacement has a shortened tab > > > which requires insertion of a thin instrument to remove the plug. A > > > third party replacement has 2 wires only connected as above. I am > > > reluctant to try the third party replacement in case of damaging the > > > modem. > > > > > > TIA > > > -- > > > Greg Terrell > > > > > > > > -- > > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > > > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > > vary, Done on a > > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > > > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 18:23:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA00723 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:23:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24055; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:21:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:20:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23933; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:20:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cheetah.cs.ucla.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23920; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:20:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cheetah.cs.ucla.edu (131.179.132.22 -> Cheetah.CS.UCLA.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:20:38 -0400 Received: (from damon@localhost) by cheetah.cs.ucla.edu (8.9.1/UCLACS-5.0) id PAA08903 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:20:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Damon Liu Message-Id: <199907222220.PAA08903@cheetah.cs.ucla.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Install a PC card modem List-Unsubscribe: In my 765D, I like to replace the Mwave modem with a 56K PC card modem. Is there any documentation showing my how to do it step by step? Thanks. //damon From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 18:23:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA00729 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24397; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:21:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24179; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:21:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24166; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (204.101.251.53 -> smtp11.bellglobal.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:21:52 -0400 Received: from mpro1 (ppp8360.on.bellglobal.com [207.236.124.24]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA14217 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:25:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00d801bed491$46bb77b0$187ceccf@mpro1> Reply-To: "Carlos de la Puente" From: "Carlos de la Puente" To: "thinkpad reply" Subject: Re: cd-rom drives for dock-II Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:26:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: I failed to mention that the CD-ROM that was designed for the Dock II (I believe someone mentioned XM-4101BMY) is a SCSI drive. Reading the flow of my post, it seems to give the impression it is IDE. Carlos -----Original Message----- From: Carlos de la Puente To: thinkpad reply Date: Thursday, July 22, 1999 1:17 PM Subject: Re: cd-rom drives for dock-II >>i don't THINK and TP CD's fit the dock-2.. > > >I don't have the specifics handy, but there is a tray that fits in the >slim-high bay and is used to mount some ThinkPad CD-ROM's. The IDE cable in >the Dock II connects to this tray which -- in turn -- has a connector for >the CD-ROM. > >The CD-ROM that was designed for the Dock I & II is hard to find and they >are usually high-priced. It's sibling (Toshiba XM-4101BME) is a nice fit, >but ingenuity is required to attach it to the Dock II slim-high bay (as none >of the Dock II's bays have any screw holes in them). The bezel is tan, but >it can be painted black. Since most Dock II owners just want it to load >software, a 2x speed is sufficient. > >The half-height bay needs the side railings to mount a CD-ROM, a 3.5" HDD >would need the PS/2-style bracket or tray (sides or bottom). If you ever >owned PS/2's, you probably have a bunch of these lying around. > >Carlos. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 19:30:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA01431 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:30:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27917; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:28:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27812; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:28:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1-alterdial.uu.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27794; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:28:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1-alterdial.uu.net (192.48.96.22 -> alterdial.UU.NET) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:28:24 -0400 Received: from mah570 by smtp1-alterdial.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: 1Cust35.tnt1.angola.in.da.uu.net [208.255.229.35]) id QQgzaj17561; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:28:17 GMT Message-ID: <000b01bed499$7268ace0$23e5ffd0@mahoneychevy.com> From: "Mike Mahoney" To: , "ThinkPad list" References: <379714F9.D8B5FE2@wineasy.se> Subject: Re: Help: cannot stop Norton software from loading at startup Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:25:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I made the mistake of installing it also. I did an uninstall from the control panel. If that doesn't work try "msconfig and go to the start up tab. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Wennersten To: ThinkPad list Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 7:56 AM Subject: Help: cannot stop Norton software from loading at startup > Hi, > > I hope this is a question appropriate for this group. > > I just bought a 570 and have played around trying to customise desktop > and startup etc. But I have one problem. I managed to get rid of all the > progs in the system tray and other programs that I did not want to load > at startup. But since I installed Norton Mobile Essentials I get an > annoying dialog box from something called Location Controller (part of > NME) at startup asking for the present location of the computer. I can't > get rid of this "dialog box/program starting at boot", and I have no > need of the program starting every time I boot. > > How can I stop it from starting. I have not been successful n finding > the string that starts it either in the registry or in win/system.ini. > > Peter > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 20:29:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA02106 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00935; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:28:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:27:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00830; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:27:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pike.sover.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00817; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:27:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from pike.sover.net (209.198.87.34 -> pike.sover.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:27:52 -0400 Received: from MYHOSTNAME (arc1a196.bf.sover.net [209.198.80.196]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA10350 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:27:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907230027.UAA10350@pike.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on pike.sover.net) MYHOSTNAME from arc1a196.bf.sover.net [209.198.80.196] 209.198.80.196 Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:27:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 05:45:20 -0400 To: In-Reply-To: <002501bed404$9323b0a0$a4248ad1@ms461956> Subject: Power Supply [was: Interesting TP accessory prices] X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 b60 List-Unsubscribe: Can we put theory aside for a moment; I doubt if IBM would spend the money for a 3.6 amp power supply, it the 2.2 amp model could handle it. I think the 3.6 amp supply is probably sized for the maximum load that might be expected on it. In the case of the TP 600E this would a CD ROM, floppy drive and couple of PCMCIA cards -- AND if you are using an operating system that really multitasks, you could be using all of them at the same time. With this in mind, what happens to the machine and power supply when the 2.2 amp supply is loaded beyond what it is designed to carry? >No no... I am not saying the AC adapter will fail, I was refer to the >fact that "more amps is not always better" in general - or from a device >or EE engineering point of view. As my previous posting said, it is "not >always better." > In consequence the amperage drawn from it is only > dependent on the resistance of the device connected > to the output of the power supply. > And this follows Ohm's law: > current(in amps) = voltage(in volts) / resistance(in ohms) > In other words the adaptor will supply the device > with any amperage as required by the device, up > to the maximum value indicated on the label. Above > that, expect thermal breakdown. _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 22:53:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA03364 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06191; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:53:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:52:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06072; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:52:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06053; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (207.172.3.236 -> smtp3.erols.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:52:16 -0400 Received: from default (207-172-112-205.s205.tnt4.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.112.205]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA01699 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:52:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006f01bed4b6$2889abc0$cd70accf@default> From: "Donald Malcolm MacQueen" To: Subject: accessories from MicroWarehouse? Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:50:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Would some kind soul please post the item numbers from the mail flyer for the 1) 560 battery and 2) the 560 adapter that have the twin $25 rebates? The source code is 'p95x20' (right?), and I successfully printed the IBM rebate form >from the website. Thanks. Donald ---------------------------------------- Donald M. MacQueen Registered Smalltalk Bigot ---------------------------------------- I've tried the rest, now I use the best -- Smalltalk! ---------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 23:07:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA03475 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:07:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06997; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:06:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:06:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06908; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:06:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06895; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:05:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (24.112.32.20 -> smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:05:58 -0400 Received: from mail.on.rogers.wave.ca ([24.112.32.4]:58925 "EHLO mail.on.rogers.wave.ca" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <512831-185>; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:04:27 -0400 Received: from cr394328-a.rchrd1.on.wave.home.com ([24.112.93.189]:3239 "HELO actprod" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mail.on.rogers.wave.ca with SMTP id <324684-485>; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:05:46 -0400 From: "Tom Trottier" Organization: ACT Productions Inc., 199-K1S 2P3, Ottawa To: Rex Buddenberg , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:05:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Credit card RAM Reply-to: tom@act.ca Priority: urgent In-reply-to: References: <199907221858.OAA09850@CS.UTK.EDU> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-Id: <19990723030547Z324684-485+40@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> List-Unsubscribe: Try www.ebay.com - I've seen bunches or credit card RAM just lately. Tom --- Original Message --- Date sent: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:25:27 -0700 From: Rex Buddenberg ... > 2. Thinkpad 720C. This one boots floppies ok, but I can't find memory > cards to boost it up past the 4M that's on the motherboard. I need: > IBM FRU Kingston part # > 07G1415 KTM-TP700/4 4M PCMCIA > (aka credit card) RAM > 07G1416 KTM-TP700/8 8M > .... one of each. I've tried IBM and several Kingston distributors, all > dry. (And yes, I tried the RAM card for the 510Cs in the 720C ... it won't > work). ------------------ From:Tom Trottier, ACT Productions Inc. __o tom@act.ca http://www.act.ca _ \< +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 (*)/'(*) 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 2P3 "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 23:26:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA03708 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:26:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08101; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:24:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:24:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08013; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:24:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07973; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:23:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:23:08 -0400 Received: from p2-450 (client-151-204-210-22.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.22]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA12749; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:26:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990722232608.03585340@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:26:08 -0400 To: tom@act.ca, Rex Buddenberg , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Credit card RAM In-Reply-To: <19990723030547Z324684-485+40@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> References: <199907221858.OAA09850@CS.UTK.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:05 PM 07/22/1999 -0400, Tom Trottier wrote: >Try www.ebay.com - I've seen bunches or credit card RAM just lately. > >Tom > >--- Original Message --- > >Date sent: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:25:27 -0700 >From: Rex Buddenberg > >... >> 2. Thinkpad 720C. This one boots floppies ok, but I can't find memory >> cards to boost it up past the 4M that's on the motherboard. I need: >> IBM FRU Kingston part # >> 07G1415 KTM-TP700/4 4M PCMCIA >> (aka credit card) RAM >> 07G1416 KTM-TP700/8 8M >> .... one of each. I've tried IBM and several Kingston distributors, all >> dry. (And yes, I tried the RAM card for the 510Cs in the 720C ... it won't >> work). >------------------ This machine takes 4 or 8 meg IC DRAM credit card style memory modules, but its max memory is 16megs. You can add two adapters in any form you want. They are readily available on ebay along with usenet groups and probably some kind souls in this newsgroup. If you pay more than $10 for a 4meg card or $25 for an 8meg, you got rooked. :) ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 22 23:48:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA03992 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:48:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09389; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:48:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:47:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09259; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:47:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09245; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:47:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:47:26 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-452.gate.net [199.227.173.198]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA279634; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:47:22 -0400 Message-ID: <3797E5BD.525C78FC@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:47:09 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tom@act.ca CC: Rex Buddenberg , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Credit card RAM References: <199907221858.OAA09850@CS.UTK.EDU> <19990723030547Z324684-485+40@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Apricorn has these parts, but like tom says, there should be bunches of this around as used memory.. Tom Trottier wrote: > Try www.ebay.com - I've seen bunches or credit card RAM just lately. > > Tom > > --- Original Message --- > > Date sent: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:25:27 -0700 > From: Rex Buddenberg > > ... > > 2. Thinkpad 720C. This one boots floppies ok, but I can't find memory > > cards to boost it up past the 4M that's on the motherboard. I need: > > IBM FRU Kingston part # > > 07G1415 KTM-TP700/4 4M PCMCIA > > (aka credit card) RAM > > 07G1416 KTM-TP700/8 8M > > .... one of each. I've tried IBM and several Kingston distributors, all > > dry. (And yes, I tried the RAM card for the 510Cs in the 720C ... it won't > > work). > ------------------ > From:Tom Trottier, ACT Productions Inc. > __o tom@act.ca http://www.act.ca > _ \< +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 > (*)/'(*) 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 2P3 > "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 00:38:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA04323 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11849; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:36:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11739; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11724; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:36:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:36:33 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-452.gate.net [199.227.173.198]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA249974; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:36:37 -0400 Message-ID: <3797F148.C0F26720@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:36:24 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donald Malcolm MacQueen CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: accessories from MicroWarehouse? References: <006f01bed4b6$2889abc0$cd70accf@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: the AC adapter item number is AC26737 and the 560 battery is AA1520 Donald Malcolm MacQueen wrote: > Would some kind soul please > post the item numbers from the mail > flyer for the 1) 560 battery and > 2) the 560 adapter that have the > twin $25 rebates? > > The source code is 'p95x20' (right?), and > I successfully printed the IBM rebate form > from the website. > > Thanks. > > Donald > ---------------------------------------- > Donald M. MacQueen > Registered Smalltalk Bigot > ---------------------------------------- > I've tried the rest, now I use the best -- Smalltalk! > ---------------------------------------- -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 00:41:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA04341 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12415; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:39:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12254; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.az.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12230; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.az.com (216.145.8.233 -> ip-216.145.8.233.az.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:39:43 -0400 Received: from ip-216.145.8.17.az.com (ip-216.145.8.17.az.com [216.145.8.17]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA22069 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 21:39:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <199907230439.VAA22069@www.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 99 21:45:03 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Help: cannot stop Norton software from loading at startup List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:56:26 +0200, Peter Wennersten wrote: >How can I stop it from starting. I have not been successful n finding >the string that starts it either in the registry or in win/system.ini. Hi Peter, This may sound a bit silly but have you checked under: c:\windows\start menu\programs\startup There should a shortcut there for your program. It won't always show up in the registry if it's hiding there. I'm also assuming you've installed on C: otherwise use whatever drive letter it boots from. Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 00:50:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA04372 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:50:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13266; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:49:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13187; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13170; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:49:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (204.182.16.2 -> tdl.tdl.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:49:10 -0400 Received: from chuck (tdl-dyn193.tdl.com [205.162.12.193]) by tdl.tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA03058 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 21:49:06 -0700 Message-Id: <199907230449.VAA03058@tdl.tdl.com> From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 21:47:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Help: cannot stop Norton software from loading at startup Reply-to: cblaisd@tdl.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <199907230439.VAA22069@www.az.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) List-Unsubscribe: On 22 Jul 99, at 21:45, LightSide wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:56:26 +0200, Peter Wennersten wrote: > >How can I stop it from starting. I have not been successful n finding > >the string that starts it either in the registry or in win/system.ini. > > Hi Peter, > This may sound a bit silly but have you checked under: > > c:\windows\start menu\programs\startup > I suggest something like the (free) program StartUp Cop (available for download from the PCMagazine website). It is an excellent way to see all the stuff that you never knew ran on startup and to easily remove the stuff you don't want there anymore. I've used the program for several months and it's been very stable -- you just don't want to remove, obviously, any stuff that Windows needs to run. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 03:33:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA05362 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 03:33:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19884; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 03:32:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 03:31:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19617; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 03:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19583; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 03:31:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (192.134.240.50 -> uhbhic.uhb.fr) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 03:31:35 -0400 Received: from tp-770 (cb1344.uhb.fr [192.134.240.41]) by uhbhic.uhb.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with SMTP id JAA02042 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:31:31 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37981C56.2408@uhb.fr> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:40:06 +0200 From: Sylvestre Meininger X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: HD Failure Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I thought high-end TPs Hard Drives were SMART enabled ??... I believe SMART is designed to monitor physical HD failure risk and prevent just this kind of problems. Could the fact that this 600E had (maybe) an Hitachi drive mean that it's not SMART ?? Gee... one of the reason I bought my 770 was the IBM SMART hard disk. I hope this feature does work. Any one knows if the end user needs to enable it himself ? Thanks From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 06:46:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA06083 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 06:46:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA02432; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 06:46:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 06:45:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA02301; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 06:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA02282; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 06:44:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (195.174.27.3 -> home.egenet.com.tr) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 06:44:31 -0400 Received: from tk-os2.egenet.com.tr (tk-os2.egenet.com.tr [195.174.27.7]) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA29259 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:46:37 +0400 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199907230946.NAA29259@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:44:16 -0100 (TUR) Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <19990723030547Z324684-485+40@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Teleconference kit for TP600 List-Unsubscribe: Hi there. I was looking for a video teleconference kit for my TP600 (vintage; 1 year old :) Is anyone aware of any USB or PCMCIA solutions for it? Thanks, -turgut -- turgut@egenet.com.tr - Put "Send PGP" in Subject to obtain my PGP signature. Find-It! Web Search Engine: http://find.egenet.com.tr http://bbsturk.bbs.tr Windows Error 028: The new 32bit intelligent wizard has obtained a solution to your printing problems: do not print. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 10:03:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA07248 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:03:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12489; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:02:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:00:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12007; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tango.birch.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11971; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tango.birch.net (209.251.184.60 -> birch.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:59:53 -0400 Received: from amlaptop (node69.tnt-139.146.44.tfs.net [139.146.44.69] (may be forged)) by tango.birch.net with SMTP id IAA11004 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:59:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001201bed513$db2236a0$4500a8c0@amlaptop> From: "Andreas Michaelides" To: Subject: Re: HD Failure Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:01:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Unfortunately, there is no program to monitor this feature that comes with these laptops. I have downloaded a rather dated program from IBM which is ment to monitor this, but it is not the sort of thing which you would have running all the time. I run it once a week and am reassured by the green light. It would be nice if the OS would monitor this, but I don't think it does. It's almost like the 3D card in my 770. Sure the hardware is there, but I'm getting very annoyed that IBM hasn't released drivers that allow it to work. SMART is the same thing, the hardware is there, but no software. It make GREAT advertising thou, SMART enabled hard drives, 3D Graphics card etc... If you want that program I have, give me a bell and I'll directly mail it to you, should be easier than trying to dig it out of IBM's web site. Later, Andreas!! :-) PS. I have a feeling I once saw a SMART monitor in Mcafee's first aid program. But that is so bloated I promtly got rid of it. >I thought high-end TPs Hard Drives were SMART enabled ??... > >I believe SMART is designed to monitor physical HD failure risk and >prevent just this kind of problems. > >Could the fact that this 600E had (maybe) an Hitachi drive mean that >it's not SMART ?? > >Gee... one of the reason I bought my 770 was the IBM SMART hard disk. I >hope this feature does work. > >Any one knows if the end user needs to enable it himself ? > >Thanks From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 10:07:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA07290 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12940; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:04:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12795; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:04:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12758; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:03:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (24.112.32.20 -> smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:03:54 -0400 Received: from mail.on.rogers.wave.ca ([24.112.32.4]:59472 "EHLO mail.on.rogers.wave.ca" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <512681-24094>; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:02:04 -0400 Received: from cr394328-a.rchrd1.on.wave.home.com ([24.112.93.189]:1193 "HELO actprod" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mail.on.rogers.wave.ca with SMTP id <324674-31>; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:03:21 -0400 From: "Tom Trottier" Organization: ACT Productions Inc., 199-K1S 2P3, Ottawa To: Sylvestre Meininger , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:03:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: HD Failure Reply-to: tom@act.ca Priority: urgent In-reply-to: <37981C56.2408@uhb.fr> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-Id: <19990723140330Z324674-31+11@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> List-Unsubscribe: Win 98 supports it, probably automatically? There is info on the IBM site. Tom --- Original Message --- Date sent: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:40:06 +0200 From: Sylvestre Meininger > I thought high-end TPs Hard Drives were SMART enabled ??... > > I believe SMART is designed to monitor physical HD failure risk and > prevent just this kind of problems. > > Could the fact that this 600E had (maybe) an Hitachi drive mean that > it's not SMART ?? > > Gee... one of the reason I bought my 770 was the IBM SMART hard disk. I > hope this feature does work. > > Any one knows if the end user needs to enable it himself ? > > Thanks ------------------ From:Tom Trottier, ACT Productions Inc. __o tom@act.ca http://www.act.ca _ \< +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 (*)/'(*) 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 2P3 "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 11:05:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA07887 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:05:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18364; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:02:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18062; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from garnet.sover.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17990; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:01:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from garnet.sover.net (209.198.87.53 -> garnet.sover.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:01:46 -0400 Received: from MYHOSTNAME (arc1a85.bf.sover.net [209.198.80.85]) by garnet.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA03877; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:01:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907231501.LAA03877@garnet.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on garnet.sover.net) MYHOSTNAME from arc1a85.bf.sover.net [209.198.80.85] 209.198.80.85 Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:01:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:26:57 -0400 To: Damon Liu , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199907222220.PAA08903@cheetah.cs.ucla.edu> Subject: Re: Install a PC card modem X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 b60 List-Unsubscribe: No one else has answered, probably because the steps depend on the operations system you use. Generally you have to; 1. Disable the Mwave modem (in the Thinkpad utilities program or the TP Configuration). 2. Make sure you have whatever software is need to enable the PCMCIA slots. 3. Put the PC Card modem and set it up with whatever driver it needs, if any. I don't know about Win9x, but OS2 will see it without any special driver. 4. Configure your dialer software to the new com port, if needed. >In my 765D, I like to replace the Mwave modem with a 56K PC card modem. >Is there any documentation showing my how to do it step by step? _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 11:40:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA08398 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21429; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:39:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:38:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21312; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:38:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pike.sover.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21298; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:38:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from pike.sover.net (209.198.87.34 -> pike.sover.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:38:52 -0400 Received: from MYHOSTNAME (tempa35.bf.sover.net [207.136.202.35]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA15308 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907231538.LAA15308@pike.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on pike.sover.net) MYHOSTNAME from tempa35.bf.sover.net [207.136.202.35] 207.136.202.35 Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:12:51 -0400 To: In-Reply-To: <001201bed513$db2236a0$4500a8c0@amlaptop> Subject: Re: HD Failure X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 b60 List-Unsubscribe: >Unfortunately, there is no program to monitor this feature that comes >with these laptops. I have downloaded a rather dated program from IBM >which is ment to monitor this, but it is not the sort of thing which you >would have running all the time. I run it once a week and am reassured by >the green light. >It would be nice if the OS would monitor this, but I don't think it does. FWIW, OS2 has done this for years now. The monitor runs all the time, and the user does not have to do anything. The user can enable SMART during APM shutdown of the drive, and change the check interval from the default of 15 min. if desired. _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 12:02:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA08673 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22795; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:57:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22647; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:57:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22630; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:57:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (149.159.1.1 -> fallout.campusview.indiana.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:57:07 -0400 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01615 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:57:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:57:04 -0500 (EST) From: To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: HD Failure In-Reply-To: <37981C56.2408@uhb.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Sylvestre Meininger wrote: > I thought high-end TPs Hard Drives were SMART enabled ??... > > I believe SMART is designed to monitor physical HD failure risk and > prevent just this kind of problems. Unfortunately, in the real world not all modes of failure can be predicted sufficiently far in advance for the prediction to be useful. -john From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 12:28:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA09075 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:28:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25146; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:27:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:26:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24990; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:26:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24964; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:25:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (207.172.3.237 -> smtp4.erols.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:25:56 -0400 Received: from default (207-172-146-161.s161.tnt3.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.146.161]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id MAA09487; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:25:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000801bed527$bf2582e0$a192accf@default> From: "Donald Malcolm MacQueen" To: "Bill Morrow" Cc: Subject: Re: accessories from MicroWarehouse? Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:23:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: The woman at MicroWarehouse didn't seem to know anything about their $25 rebate on the AC adapter, even though I quoted her the flyer code of p95x20. She said there was only the $25 from IBM. Their web page for the AC26737 shows only the IBM rebate, which makes the price drop from $70 to $45. Anybody got any ideas? We're talking an extra $25 bucks here. Thanks. If somebody has the flyer with this info about the adapter, I can be faxed at 703 696 9563. Thanks muchly. I do so like my 560 ;-) Donald -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow To: Donald Malcolm MacQueen Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Friday, July 23, 1999 12:36 AM Subject: Re: accessories from MicroWarehouse? >the AC adapter item number is AC26737 and the 560 battery is AA1520 > >Donald Malcolm MacQueen wrote: > >> Would some kind soul please >> post the item numbers from the mail >> flyer for the 1) 560 battery and >> 2) the 560 adapter that have the >> twin $25 rebates? >> >> The source code is 'p95x20' (right?), and >> I successfully printed the IBM rebate form >> from the website. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Donald >> ---------------------------------------- >> Donald M. MacQueen >> Registered Smalltalk Bigot >> ---------------------------------------- >> I've tried the rest, now I use the best -- Smalltalk! >> ---------------------------------------- > > > >-- >Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) >WEB page http://thinkpads.com >Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html >Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop >e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net >770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > >Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will >vary, Done on a >closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 12:33:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA09158 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:33:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25931; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:32:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25853; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:32:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25838; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:32:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu (128.220.2.86 -> jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:32:37 -0400 Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu [128.220.2.5]) by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V5.2-29 #37929) with ESMTP id <01JDWJXTQOJEF5N6F9@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:32:20 EDT Received: (from thood@localhost) by jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA15281 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:32:06 -0400 (EDT) From: thood@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (J.d.thomas Hood) Subject: Linux users : please test tpctl To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <199907231632.MAA15281@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The previous announcement mentioned version 0.5.4. We're now up to 0.5.6. Don't worry: just grab the latest version that's there. The changes from now on (until the official release) will be very minor. It would be helpful if you would also send me the output of "tpctl -ib" plus the exact model number of your ThinkPad so that I can compile a table of BIOS system info output versus model number. tpctl home page: http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~thood/tpctlhome.htm tpctl download page: http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~thood/tpctldown.htm "Linux on a ThinkPad 600" page: http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~thood/tp600lnx.htm -- Thomas Hood thood@jhu.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 13:09:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09761 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:09:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18381; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:03:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:01:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17997; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:01:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from garnet.sover.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17974; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:01:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from garnet.sover.net (209.198.87.53 -> garnet.sover.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:01:40 -0400 Received: from MYHOSTNAME (arc1a85.bf.sover.net [209.198.80.85]) by garnet.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA03847; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907231501.LAA03847@garnet.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on garnet.sover.net) MYHOSTNAME from arc1a85.bf.sover.net [209.198.80.85] 209.198.80.85 Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:26:57 -0400 To: Damon Liu , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199907222220.PAA08903@cheetah.cs.ucla.edu> Subject: Re: Install a PC card modem X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 b60 List-Unsubscribe: No one else has answered, probably because the steps depend on the operations system you use. Generally you have to; 1. Disable the Mwave modem (in the Thinkpad utilities program or the TP Configuration). 2. Make sure you have whatever software is need to enable the PCMCIA slots. 3. Put the PC Card modem and set it up with whatever driver it needs, if any. I don't know about Win9x, but OS2 will see it without any special driver. 4. Configure your dialer software to the new com port, if needed. >In my 765D, I like to replace the Mwave modem with a 56K PC card modem. >Is there any documentation showing my how to do it step by step? _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 13:15:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09901 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:15:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28979; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:13:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28798; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:13:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from europa.veggie.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28746; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:13:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from europa.veggie.com (128.255.63.229 -> gauguin.weeg.uiowa.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:13:35 -0400 Received: (from bonak@localhost) by europa.veggie.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA04300; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:14:53 -0500 From: Esmail Bonakdarian Message-Id: <199907231714.MAA04300@europa.veggie.com> Subject: accessories from MicroWarehouse? To: dmacq@erols.com Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:14:53 -0500 (CDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: Esmail Bonakdarian Content-Type: text List-Unsubscribe: > Would some kind soul please post the item numbers from the mail > flyer for the 1) 560 battery and 2) the 560 adapter that have the > twin $25 rebates? > The source code is 'p95x20' (right?), and I successfully printed the > IBM rebate form from the website. the part number for the battery is AA1520 You've got the right source code. Anyone know if the Mailer Code on the rebate form is the same as the "Source Code"? Esmail PS: Is there a special way to store the battery other than dry and cool? ---- Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 13:18:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA09944 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28641; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:12:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:11:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28510; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:11:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28456; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:11:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.39 -> finch-post-11.mail.demon.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:11:06 -0400 Received: from moab.demon.co.uk ([158.152.127.170]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 117iqZ-000Hpl-0B for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:11:00 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:39:01 +0100 To: ThinkPad From: Greg Terrell Subject: Re: 770 modem cable References: <379744D0.F30740E3@icanect.net> In-Reply-To: <379744D0.F30740E3@icanect.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 U List-Unsubscribe: Bill, Jamie, Ken & Vince Many thanks for your help. 2 wire cable works fine. I queried the change of cable design with IBM's UK parts department and they are taking the issue up with the relevant quality department. They hope to find out whether the current batch is how the cables will now be manufactured or whether there has is a manufacturing defect. I'm impressed by the trouble they are going to over a GBP16 (+ tax) cable! -- Greg From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 16:51:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA13706 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:51:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13066; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:49:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:48:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12936; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:48:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12922; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:48:43 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-464.gate.net [199.227.173.210]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA386060; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:48:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3798D51B.B0EF2D02@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:48:27 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sylvestre Meininger CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: HD Failure References: <37981C56.2408@uhb.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Sylvestre... Apparently THIS particular TP600E does have an IBM drive.. (i asked about that) and yes, all are S.M.A.R.T. drives.. but since you mention it, i'm not sure i actually know which utility actually monitors the smart capability of these drives.. i, personally, use a utility to look at the smart drive... end get data off it.. a call to IBM might shed some light on this.. Sylvestre Meininger wrote: > I thought high-end TPs Hard Drives were SMART enabled ??... > > I believe SMART is designed to monitor physical HD failure risk and > prevent just this kind of problems. > > Could the fact that this 600E had (maybe) an Hitachi drive mean that > it's not SMART ?? > > Gee... one of the reason I bought my 770 was the IBM SMART hard disk. I > hope this feature does work. > > Any one knows if the end user needs to enable it himself ? > > Thanks -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 17:26:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA14159 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:26:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15375; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:23:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15220; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:23:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail4.lax.netzero.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15199; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail4.lax.netzero.net (209.0.233.39 -> mail4.lax.netzero.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:23:42 -0400 Received: (qmail 4523 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jul 1999 21:23:38 -0000 Received: from pppa61-tucson22-2r693.saturn.bbn.com (HELO netzero.net) (4.11.204.219) by mail4.lax.netzero.net with SMTP; 23 Jul 1999 21:23:38 -0000 Message-ID: <3798DD32.B4E6C2D4@netzero.net> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:22:58 -0700 From: Juan-Carlos Lerman Reply-To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Morrow , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: HD Failure References: <37981C56.2408@uhb.fr> <3798D51B.B0EF2D02@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I got EZ S.M.A.R.T.(ver 3.00.02) free from IBM some time ago. It was a product of Micro House Solutions, now: StorageSoft. http://www.storagesoft.com Bill Morrow wrote: > > Sylvestre... > Apparently THIS particular TP600E does have an IBM drive.. > (i asked about that) > and yes, all are S.M.A.R.T. drives.. > but since you mention it, i'm not sure i actually know which utility > actually monitors the smart capability of these drives.. > > i, personally, use a utility to look at the smart drive... end get data off > it.. > > a call to IBM might shed some light on this.. > > Sylvestre Meininger wrote: > > > I thought high-end TPs Hard Drives were SMART enabled ??... > > > > I believe SMART is designed to monitor physical HD failure risk and > > prevent just this kind of problems. > > > > Could the fact that this 600E had (maybe) an Hitachi drive mean that > > it's not SMART ?? > > > > Gee... one of the reason I bought my 770 was the IBM SMART hard disk. I > > hope this feature does work. > > > > Any one knows if the end user needs to enable it himself ? > > > > Thanks > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > vary, Done on a > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 18:26:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA14957 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:26:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18344; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:22:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18196; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from diplomatic.passport.ca (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18179; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:22:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from diplomatic.passport.ca (204.225.103.222) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:22:17 -0400 Received: from localhost (aeglos.blks.com [207.112.16.22] (may be forged)) by diplomatic.passport.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01881; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:14:01 -0400 (EDT) To: thood@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux users : please test tpctl In-Reply-To: <199907231632.MAA15281@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> References: <199907231632.MAA15281@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94b26 on Emacs 20.3 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Reply-to: stanton@bkls.com CC: stanton@bkls.com X-URL: http://www.bkls.com/~stanton Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990723182142V.lstanton@bkls.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:21:42 -0400 From: "Linn H. Stanton" X-Dispatcher: imput version 990425(IM115) Lines: 22 List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:32:06 -0400 (EDT), thood@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (J.d.thomas Hood) said: thood> It would be helpful if you would also send me the output of "tpctl -ib" thood> plus the exact model number of your ThinkPad so that I can compile a >from tpctl 0.5.4: gungnir% tpctl -ib 0 information about bios and system: system ID: 68 country code: 1 system BIOS revision: 1.03 sys management BIOS revision: 1.00 SMAPI BIOS interface revision: 0.92 video BIOS revision: 1.15 slave controller revision: 1.5 thinkpad 600E "I'm sorry. If you were right, I would agree with you." Dr. Malcolm Sayer, "Awakenings" From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 19:18:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA15456 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:18:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21287; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:17:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:17:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21148; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21133; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (200.36.38.5) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:17:15 -0400 Received: from 200.38.239.6 ([200.38.239.6] (may be forged)) by chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA00393 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:10:38 +0100 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 600E HD died fast Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:18:50 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <37969A4B.18E1F84C@icanect.net> In-Reply-To: <37969A4B.18E1F84C@icanect.net> Lines: 20 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: If this list had a FAQ, the first item would be: "As soon as you purchase your Thinkpad, register the machine for International Warranty." Full stop. I had to register my machine, and the process took IBM a month. I had to fax the international warranty division the invoice for the machine, even though I had purchased it directly from ... IBM ! Don't wait until you think you might be travelling, do it immediately. -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 19:49:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA15685 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22882; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:48:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:48:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22802; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.ibm.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22789; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:48:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.ibm.net (165.87.194.229 -> out2.ibm.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:48:08 -0400 Received: from lknorr (slip166-72-137-237.ny.us.ibm.net [166.72.137.237]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA218180 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 23:48:03 GMT Message-ID: <003301bed566$102fc860$ed8948a6@lknorr> Reply-To: "RPKnorr" From: "RPKnorr" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: What to Buy? Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:49:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: I am looking for advise on which IBM TP I should buy for general business applications (Lotus)Have a budget of $2500 t0 3000 to spend.I am a retired IBM er so I might get a small discount. Any suggestions? TIA Regards Russ From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 20:58:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA16317 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:58:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25863; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:57:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:56:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25760; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:56:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25747; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:56:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:56:48 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-112.gate.net [207.36.212.112]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA227832; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:56:54 -0400 Message-ID: <37990F47.885590B1@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:56:39 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RPKnorr CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: What to Buy? References: <003301bed566$102fc860$ed8948a6@lknorr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: i suggest a used 600E.. unless the ibm employee discount is still 20%, but even so, you still will pay sales tax.. RPKnorr wrote: > I am looking for advise on which IBM TP I should buy for general business > applications (Lotus)Have a budget of $2500 t0 3000 to spend.I am a retired > IBM er so I might get a small discount. > Any suggestions? > TIA Regards Russ -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 21:11:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA16417 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:11:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26966; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:11:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:10:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26846; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:10:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26832; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.1 -> dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:10:28 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA23189 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:10:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907240110.UAA23189@dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga13-17.ix.netcom.com(207.95.119.17) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma023177; Fri Jul 23 20:10:11 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:10:58 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <379744D0.F30740E3@icanect.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP Sound Board List-Unsubscribe: Hello, Suddenly my TP760CD is without sound. I am running the Win95 OS, so I looked in Device Manager, and see what looks to be a complete listing of the hardware. In the TP Utility, Sound is enabled. Is there some other way to check this? Or is there a hardware problem? Any advice towards resolving this problem would be appreciated. Allan Ballard From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 23 21:47:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA16791 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:47:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28681; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:46:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28580; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:45:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.lax.netzero.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28567; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.lax.netzero.net (209.0.233.37 -> mail2.lax.netzero.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:45:54 -0400 Received: (qmail 19720 invoked by uid 0); 24 Jul 1999 01:45:46 -0000 Received: from pppa32-tucson18-2r692.saturn.bbn.com (HELO netzero.net) (4.11.206.38) by mail2.lax.netzero.net with SMTP; 24 Jul 1999 01:45:46 -0000 Message-ID: <37991AA4.5AE08569@netzero.net> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:45:08 -0700 From: Juan-Carlos Lerman Reply-To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: HD Failure and EZ-S.M.A.R.T. References: <37981C56.2408@uhb.fr> <3798D51B.B0EF2D02@icanect.net> <3798DD32.B4E6C2D4@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: To see if the IBM courtesy version is available check the IBM storage division pages at: http://ssdweb01.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/welcome.htm#EZ-S.M.A.R.T. Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > > I got EZ S.M.A.R.T.(ver 3.00.02) free from IBM some time ago. > It was a product of Micro House Solutions, now: StorageSoft. > http://www.storagesoft.com > > Bill Morrow wrote: > > > > Sylvestre... > > Apparently THIS particular TP600E does have an IBM drive.. > > (i asked about that) > > and yes, all are S.M.A.R.T. drives.. > > but since you mention it, i'm not sure i actually know which utility > > actually monitors the smart capability of these drives.. > > > > i, personally, use a utility to look at the smart drive... end get data off > > it.. > > > > a call to IBM might shed some light on this.. > > > > Sylvestre Meininger wrote: > > > > > I thought high-end TPs Hard Drives were SMART enabled ??... > > > > > > I believe SMART is designed to monitor physical HD failure risk and > > > prevent just this kind of problems. > > > > > > Could the fact that this 600E had (maybe) an Hitachi drive mean that > > > it's not SMART ?? > > > > > > Gee... one of the reason I bought my 770 was the IBM SMART hard disk. I > > > hope this feature does work. > > > > > > Any one knows if the end user needs to enable it himself ? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > > > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > > vary, Done on a > > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > ________________________________________________________ > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 24 05:28:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA19904 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 05:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10106; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 03:16:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 03:15:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09814; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 03:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09589; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 03:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (140.142.78.5 -> jason04.u.washington.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 03:13:24 -0400 Received: from dante26.u.washington.edu (williams@dante26.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.100]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id AAA14776 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 00:12:43 -0700 Received: from localhost (williams@localhost) by dante26.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id AAA56260 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 00:12:43 -0700 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 00:12:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Williams" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Credit card ram / PC Card Enabler /Rex In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I have a 2mb memory card from an old dead Newton. It says "2MB Flash Storage Card". I looked it up and this is an Intel Series 2 Flash Memory Card. Can this be used in a Thinkpad? Is this the same as ATA Flash? Any way to read the data off of it? Do I need to format it first. Are there any practical uses for this card (or, one of larger size)? Can one boot from a flash card? I already have two PC Cards (SCSI and Ethernet) installed in my system (770ED). If I use this flash card, can I hot swap it with one of the cards currently installed? I read about the PC Card Enabler, would this be the ideal solution for using 3 or 4 PC Cards? Also, has anyone used the Rex? How well does it work? Thanks, John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 24 06:59:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA20131 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 06:59:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22522; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 06:58:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 06:58:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22387; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 06:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hpamgaad.compuserve.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22374; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 06:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hpamgaad.compuserve.com (149.174.217.158 -> ah-img-4.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 06:57:56 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpamgaad.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-1.5) id GAA11924 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 06:57:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 06:57:09 -0400 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: PCMCIA Modems - DOS Drivers etc... Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: thinkpad Message-ID: <199907240657_MC2-7E2D-79A1@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: >No one else has answered, probably because the steps depend on the >operations system you use. Generally you have to; 1. Disable the Mwave modem (in the Thinkpad utilities program or the TP Configuration). 2. Make sure you have whatever software is need to enable the PCMCIA slots. 3. Put the PC Card modem and set it up with whatever driver it needs, if any. I don't know about Win9x, but OS2 will see it without any special driver. 4. Configure your dialer software to the new com port, if needed. = >In my 765D, I like to replace the Mwave modem with a 56K PC card modem. >Is there any documentation showing my how to do it step by step? Hi, Actually, you do not need to remove/disable the Mwave modem. I use a Xirc= om credit card 56k Global Access unit as well as my Mwave on-board unit on m= y 755CX. Not at the same time mind you(!) but I use Faxworks with the Mwave= , and swap over the phone plugs to use the 56K card modem for email etc... You may need the *manufactuer's* drivers though. Do make sure IR is disabled. If anyone can help with a setup for a PCMCIA card under DOS I would be grateful. This is so I can load off my PCMCIA CDRom under DOS - W95 CAB files etc... Thanks From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 24 08:05:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA20343 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 08:05:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24476; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 08:04:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 08:03:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24398; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 08:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24385; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 08:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.1 -> dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 08:03:32 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA23812 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 07:03:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907241203.HAA23812@dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga13-17.ix.netcom.com(207.95.119.17) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma023807; Sat Jul 24 07:03:10 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "thinkpad" Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 08:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <199907240657_MC2-7E2D-79A1@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: PCMCIA Modems - DOS Drivers etc... List-Unsubscribe: I use a 3COM 56K modem in my TP and never bothered to disable the Mwave modem. In fact at times I use both at the same time (via the current version of DUN's bonded modem application). Leaving both operational will take up an extra IRQ and com port, but it can be worth it to gain a backup modem when for the typical reasons unknown, one or the other just won't do a good job. Allan B. On Sat, 24 Jul 1999 06:57:09 -0400, Mark Gardiner wrote: >>No one else has answered, probably because the steps depend on the >>operations system you use. Generally you have to; > >1. Disable the Mwave modem (in the Thinkpad utilities program or the TP >Configuration). > >2. Make sure you have whatever software is need to enable the PCMCIA >slots. > >3. Put the PC Card modem and set it up with whatever driver it needs, if >any. I don't know about Win9x, but OS2 will see it without any special >driver. > >4. Configure your dialer software to the new com port, if needed. > > >>In my 765D, I like to replace the Mwave modem with a 56K PC card modem. >>Is there any documentation showing my how to do it step by step? > > >Hi, > >Actually, you do not need to remove/disable the Mwave modem. I use a Xircom >credit card 56k Global Access unit as well as my Mwave on-board unit on my >755CX. Not at the same time mind you(!) but I use Faxworks with the Mwave, >and swap over the phone plugs to use the 56K card modem for email etc... >You may need the *manufactuer's* drivers though. Do make sure IR is >disabled. > >If anyone can help with a setup for a PCMCIA card under DOS I would be >grateful. This is so I can load off my PCMCIA CDRom under DOS - W95 CAB >files etc... > >Thanks > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 24 12:25:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA22255 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:25:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01954; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:24:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:22:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01730; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:22:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01716; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:22:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (200.36.38.5) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:22:02 -0400 Received: from na-93-109.na.avantel.net.mx (na-93-109.na.avantel.net.mx [148.245.93.109] (may be forged)) by chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA00632 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 11:15:30 +0100 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: PCMCIA Modems Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 09:16:15 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <199907240657_MC2-7E2D-79A1@compuserve.com> In-Reply-To: <199907240657_MC2-7E2D-79A1@compuserve.com> Lines: 20 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: : :Actually, you do not need to remove/disable the Mwave modem. I use a Xircom :credit card 56k Global Access unit as well as my Mwave on-board unit on my :755CX. Not at the same time mind you(!) but I use Faxworks with the Mwave, :and swap over the phone plugs to use the 56K card modem for email etc... :You may need the *manufactuer's* drivers though. Do make sure IR is :disabled. Disabling IR can be helpful, but not always required. Actually, I have IR enabled too on my 701. You may run out of IRQs or even ports, and it may be impossible on some other TPs, but you can have IR, PCMCIA Modem, and PCMCIA Ethernet running at the same time on a 701 (though you may wonder "why?"). -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 24 15:04:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA23500 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:04:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06613; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:02:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06486; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from f04n01.cac.psu.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06473; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from f04n01.cac.psu.edu (128.118.141.31 -> f04s01.cac.psu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:02:49 -0400 Received: from CACPPP (nb8ppp99.cac.psu.edu [146.186.16.99]) by f04n01.cac.psu.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA68312 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:02:46 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990724150211.006c7d5c@mail.bucknell.edu> X-Sender: findeis@mail.bucknell.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:02:14 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Findeis Subject: Any production numbers for ThinkPad models Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi all, Some models of ThinkPads must have sold better than others. Anyone know of production or sales numbers for the various models of ThinkPads? I sell 3.5" external floppy drives on eBay and offer the cable as an option (so far the 560 has been the most popular, but I'm wondering if I should also stock the 365X/XD cable). Cheers, -Pete Findeis From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 24 15:14:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA23592 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:14:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07564; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:13:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:13:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07460; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07447; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (149.159.1.1 -> fallout.campusview.indiana.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:12:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA03288; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 14:12:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 14:12:49 -0500 (EST) From: To: Jonathan Berry cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 600E HD died fast In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Jonathan Berry wrote: > If this list had a FAQ, the first item would be: > > "As soon as you purchase your Thinkpad, register the machine > for International Warranty." > > Full stop. > > I had to register my machine, and the process took IBM a month. Really? It just too me a phone call and a serial number. No paperwork no faxes, no hassles, only a wait of about a week for the registration sticker and (long) list of service phone numbers to come in the mail. -john From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 24 15:24:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA23665 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08299; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:24:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:23:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08215; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08202; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:23:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.74 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:23:29 -0400 Received: from thinkpad1721i (user-33qt8ap.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.161.89]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA20806; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:23:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003b01bed609$e4831c40$59a1aec7@thinkpad1721i> From: "Chuck S." To: Cc: "ThinkPad list" References: <379745BE.4337FBCF@icanect.net> Subject: Re: Help: cannot stop Norton software from loading at startup Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 14:22:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Peter, There are instructions at Symantec's web site (I think it's in their support discussion group for Mobil Essentials) on how to keep from being prompted at boot time. The fix has to do with undoing a permanent change Mobil Essentials has made to the registry, even after Mobil Essentials has been uninstalled. If you cannot find the information you can just post the question. I know how annoying this kind of thing can be. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morrow To: Cc: ThinkPad list Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 11:24 AM Subject: Re: Help: cannot stop Norton software from loading at startup | did you try your startup group.. | i THINK it might be in there.. | | Peter Wennersten wrote: | | > Hi, | > | > I hope this is a question appropriate for this group. | > | > I just bought a 570 and have played around trying to customise desktop | > and startup etc. But I have one problem. I managed to get rid of all the | > progs in the system tray and other programs that I did not want to load | > at startup. But since I installed Norton Mobile Essentials I get an | > annoying dialog box from something called Location Controller (part of | > NME) at startup asking for the present location of the computer. I can't | > get rid of this "dialog box/program starting at boot", and I have no | > need of the program starting every time I boot. | > | > How can I stop it from starting. I have not been successful n finding | > the string that starts it either in the registry or in win/system.ini. | > | > Peter | | | | -- | Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... | | ** Bill Morrow ** :-) | WEB page http://thinkpads.com | Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html | Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop | e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net | 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... | | Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will | vary, Done on a | closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. | | | From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 24 15:27:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA23703 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:27:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08801; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:27:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:26:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08615; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:26:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08601; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:26:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (195.174.27.3 -> home.egenet.com.tr) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:26:21 -0400 Received: from localhost (turgut@localhost) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA27120; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:28:15 +0400 (EET DST) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:28:14 +0400 (EET DST) From: Turgut Kalfaoglu To: Jonathan Berry cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 600E HD died fast In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: CompuUSA just called to say that my warrantee was expiring, if I would pay for another two years's worth of warrantee. I live overseas, I had bought the TP600 when I was in the states last year; do you think it's a good idea to renew? Thanks, -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu, EgeNet Internet Services http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 24 15:30:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA23734 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09196; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:29:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:28:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08935; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:28:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marlin.nosc.mil (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08922; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marlin.nosc.mil (128.49.4.4 -> marlin.nosc.mil) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:27:59 -0400 Received: from localhost (dseaman@localhost) by marlin.nosc.mil (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA08398; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:27:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Derek L. Seaman" To: Bill Morrow cc: Sylvestre Meininger , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: HD Failure In-Reply-To: <3798D51B.B0EF2D02@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Yeah what do I need to do for SMART? So far it seems DUMB to me. On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Bill Morrow wrote: > Sylvestre... > Apparently THIS particular TP600E does have an IBM drive.. > (i asked about that) > and yes, all are S.M.A.R.T. drives.. > but since you mention it, i'm not sure i actually know which utility > actually monitors the smart capability of these drives.. > > i, personally, use a utility to look at the smart drive... end get data off > it.. > > a call to IBM might shed some light on this.. > > Sylvestre Meininger wrote: > > > I thought high-end TPs Hard Drives were SMART enabled ??... > > > > I believe SMART is designed to monitor physical HD failure risk and > > prevent just this kind of problems. > > > > Could the fact that this 600E had (maybe) an Hitachi drive mean that > > it's not SMART ?? > > > > Gee... one of the reason I bought my 770 was the IBM SMART hard disk. I > > hope this feature does work. > > > > Any one knows if the end user needs to enable it himself ? > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > vary, Done on a > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 24 15:31:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA23746 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:31:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09815; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:31:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:29:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09371; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:29:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09153; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907241928.PAA09153@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (129.71.2.4 -> wvnvm.wvnet.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:28:55 -0400 Received: from teacup [129.71.227.239] by WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:30:58 EDT From: "Vrondi" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:28:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: battery? Reply-to: vrondi@nettaxi.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) List-Unsubscribe: I have a Thinkpad 755CD It does mostly wha tI need to do away from my desktop even if it isn't hte latest and greatest. I can't help wishing for more battery time, though. Is there perhaps a second battery available that I could put in the CD Drive Bay? Thanks, //Chrys Amy Dean | Vrondi on EFNET IRC "She wasn't at all sure about the meaning of the word 'decadent'. She'd dismissed the possibility that it meant 'having ten teeth'." -Terry Pratchett From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 24 15:36:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA23796 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:36:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10592; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:35:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:35:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10463; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:35:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10448; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.1 -> dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:35:22 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA02913 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 14:35:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907241935.OAA02913@dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga13-17.ix.netcom.com(207.95.119.17) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma002904; Sat Jul 24 14:35:05 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:35:54 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <199907240110.UAA23189@dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP Sound Board List-Unsubscribe: I ran the IBM diagnostics disk, and the following appeared: Error dev 113 Err 99 FRU 1610 Replace DSP card (90%) If it does not solve the problem, replace the System Board (10%) So, there it is. Probably a bad 'sound' card. Now to find the cost of FRU 1610 in the IBM maze.... Allan Ballard On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:10:58 -0400 (EDT), Allan Ballard wrote: >Hello, > >Suddenly my TP760CD is without sound. > >I am running the Win95 OS, so I looked in >Device Manager, and see what looks to >be a complete listing of the hardware. > >In the TP Utility, Sound is enabled. > >Is there some other way to check this? > >Or is there a hardware problem? > >Any advice towards resolving this problem >would be appreciated. > >Allan Ballard > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 24 16:18:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA24120 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:18:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12647; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:16:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12442; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:16:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12429; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:16:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (24.112.32.20 -> smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:16:21 -0400 Received: from mail.on.rogers.wave.ca ([24.112.32.4]:61103 "EHLO mail.on.rogers.wave.ca" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <512796-22559>; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:15:53 -0400 Received: from cr394328-a.rchrd1.on.wave.home.com ([24.112.93.189]:4462 "HELO actprod" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mail.on.rogers.wave.ca with SMTP id <324674-13022>; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:15:53 -0400 From: "Tom Trottier" Organization: ACT Productions Inc., 199-K1S 2P3, Ottawa To: bill@thinkpads.com, Juan-Carlos Lerman Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:15:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: HD Failure and EZ-S.M.A.R.T. Reply-to: tom@act.ca CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: urgent In-reply-to: <37991AA4.5AE08569@netzero.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-Id: <19990724201555Z324674-13022+13@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> List-Unsubscribe: Juan-Carlos, Thanks for the URL. IBM stil has it, and they have a variety of other valuable disk config/test programs as well. Tom --- Original Message --- Date sent: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:45:08 -0700 From: Juan-Carlos Lerman > To see if the IBM courtesy version is available check the IBM > storage division pages at: > > http://ssdweb01.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/welcome.htm#EZ-S.M.A.R.T. ------------------ From:Tom Trottier, ACT Productions Inc. __o tom@act.ca http://www.act.ca _ \< +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 (*)/'(*) 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 2P3 "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 24 16:31:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA24232 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:31:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13463; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:30:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:29:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13298; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:29:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13284; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (207.172.3.237 -> smtp4.erols.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:29:04 -0400 Received: from default (207-172-57-4.s4.tnt2.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.57.4]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id QAA00433 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00db01bed612$e879bbc0$0439accf@default> From: "Donald Malcolm MacQueen" To: Subject: MicroWarehouse rebate? Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:27:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: >The woman at MicroWarehouse didn't >seem to know anything about their $25 >rebate on the AC adapter, >even though I quoted her the >flyer code of p95x20. > >She said there was only the $25 from >IBM. Their web page for the AC26737 >shows only the IBM rebate, which makes >the price drop from $70 to $45. > >Anybody got any ideas? We're talking >an extra $25 bucks here. Thanks. > >If somebody has the flyer with this >info about the adapter, I can be faxed >at 703 696 9563. > >Thanks muchly. I do so like my 560 ;-) > >Donald From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 24 17:41:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA24832 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:41:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16390; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:39:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16242; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:39:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16229; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:39:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (200.36.38.5) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:39:29 -0400 Received: from TIPPER ([200.36.38.17] (may be forged)) by chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA00758 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:32:53 +0100 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 600E HD died fast Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 14:33:54 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Lines: 36 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: :On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Jonathan Berry wrote: : :> If this list had a FAQ, the first item would be: :> :> "As soon as you purchase your Thinkpad, register the machine :> for International Warranty." :> :> Full stop. :> :> I had to register my machine, and the process took IBM a month. : :Really? Yes, though it was over 3 years ago. :It just too me a phone call and a serial number. No :paperwork no faxes, no hassles, only a wait of about a week for :the registration sticker and (long) list of service phone :numbers to come in the mail. Great! But even in your case, registering the international warranty is a thing to do when the machine arrives, not when you're in Slovenia with a dead HD. The week (or so, depending on the mails) would be a long time extra to wait for service. : :-john : : -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 24 19:32:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA25466 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19699; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:31:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19597; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:31:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail4.lax.netzero.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19582; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:31:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail4.lax.netzero.net (209.0.233.39 -> mail4.lax.netzero.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:31:11 -0400 Received: (qmail 10195 invoked by uid 0); 24 Jul 1999 23:31:08 -0000 Received: from pppa53-tucson12-1r691.saturn.bbn.com (HELO netzero.net) (4.11.207.235) by mail4.lax.netzero.net with SMTP; 24 Jul 1999 23:31:08 -0000 Message-ID: <379A4C71.6395F4D0@netzero.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:29:53 -0700 From: Juan-Carlos Lerman Reply-To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tom@act.ca, bill@thinkpads.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 2nd HDD [was: HD Failure and EZ-S.M.A.R.T.] References: <19990724201555Z324674-13022+13@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Help! I got a Travelstar HDD mechanically installed with the bracket and the IBM adaptor, with the jumper as "slave" It's recognized by the BIOS, but with DEV 151 (HDD in UltraBayII) ERR 82 (?) FRU 6210 (?) and a blurb about "registers" The machine is a TP770 1AU The 2nd HDD is not recognized by Win95 or DOS and doesn't appear in the EZ-S.M.A.R.T window either. And now? Doesn't need to be partitioned and formated? Is this done by some of the other utilities in that IBM storage URL? Tom Trottier wrote: > > Juan-Carlos, > > Thanks for the URL. IBM stil has it, and they have a variety of other > valuable disk config/test programs as well. > > Tom > > --- Original Message --- > Date sent: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:45:08 -0700 > From: Juan-Carlos Lerman > > > To see if the IBM courtesy version is available check the IBM > > storage division pages at: > > > > http://ssdweb01.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/welcome.htm#EZ-S.M.A.R.T. > > ------------------ > From:Tom Trottier, ACT Productions Inc. > __o tom@act.ca http://www.act.ca > _ \< +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 > (*)/'(*) 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 2P3 > "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 24 20:27:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA25867 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:27:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21964; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:26:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:26:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21862; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:26:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21849; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:25:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.39 -> mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:25:57 -0400 Received: from 770 ([12.79.15.80]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990725002554.LBRK25099@770>; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 00:25:54 +0000 Message-ID: <379A592F.6337@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:24:15 -0400 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vrondi@nettaxi.com CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: battery? References: <199907241928.PAA09153@CS.UTK.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: IF it is the Pentium 75 model, it will take the Lithium battery from the 760 series (29H9232), and it will wrok quite well indeed. Vrondi wrote: > > I have a Thinkpad 755CD > It does mostly wha tI need to do away from my desktop > even if it isn't hte latest and greatest. > I can't help wishing for more battery time, though. > Is there perhaps a second battery available that I could > put in the CD Drive Bay? > Thanks, > > //Chrys Amy Dean | Vrondi on EFNET IRC > "She wasn't at all sure about the meaning of the word 'decadent'. > She'd dismissed the possibility that it meant 'having ten teeth'." > -Terry Pratchett From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 24 20:28:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA25888 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:28:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22415; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:28:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:27:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22172; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:27:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22067; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:27:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.39 -> mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:27:18 -0400 Received: from 770 ([12.79.15.80]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990725002713.LCEU25099@770>; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 00:27:13 +0000 Message-ID: <379A597E.B94@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:25:34 -0400 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan Ballard CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP Sound Board References: <199907241935.OAA02913@dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: first, go into the easy setup and initialize the system! Upgrade the BIOS 770's give that message, but it is false! Use the PS2 commands to made sure the DSP in enabled! Allan Ballard wrote: > > I ran the IBM diagnostics disk, > and the following appeared: > > Error dev 113 > Err 99 > FRU 1610 > > Replace DSP card (90%) > If it does not solve the problem, replace the System Board (10%) > > So, there it is. Probably a bad 'sound' card. > > Now to find the cost of FRU 1610 in the IBM maze.... > > Allan Ballard > > On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:10:58 -0400 (EDT), Allan Ballard wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >Suddenly my TP760CD is without sound. > > > >I am running the Win95 OS, so I looked in > >Device Manager, and see what looks to > >be a complete listing of the hardware. > > > >In the TP Utility, Sound is enabled. > > > >Is there some other way to check this? > > > >Or is there a hardware problem? > > > >Any advice towards resolving this problem > >would be appreciated. > > > >Allan Ballard > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 24 20:30:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA25905 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:30:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22832; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:29:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22507; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:29:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22483; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.39 -> mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:28:57 -0400 Received: from 770 ([12.79.15.80]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990725002853.LCYK25099@770>; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 00:28:53 +0000 Message-ID: <379A59E1.2A10@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:27:13 -0400 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu CC: tom@act.ca, bill@thinkpads.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 2nd HDD [was: HD Failure and EZ-S.M.A.R.T.] References: <19990724201555Z324674-13022+13@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> <379A4C71.6395F4D0@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Try changing the jumper to "single" or master (try both). I believe the second hard drive uses a second IDE adaptor, so it will not work as a slave. Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > > Help! > > I got a Travelstar HDD mechanically installed with the bracket > and the IBM adaptor, with the jumper as "slave" > > It's recognized by the BIOS, but with > DEV 151 (HDD in UltraBayII) > ERR 82 (?) > FRU 6210 (?) > and a blurb about "registers" > > The machine is a TP770 1AU > > The 2nd HDD is not recognized by Win95 or DOS and doesn't > appear in the EZ-S.M.A.R.T window either. > > And now? Doesn't need to be partitioned and formated? Is > this done by some of the other utilities in that IBM storage > URL? > > Tom Trottier wrote: > > > > Juan-Carlos, > > > > Thanks for the URL. IBM stil has it, and they have a variety of other > > valuable disk config/test programs as well. > > > > Tom > > > > --- Original Message --- > > Date sent: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:45:08 -0700 > > From: Juan-Carlos Lerman > > > > > To see if the IBM courtesy version is available check the IBM > > > storage division pages at: > > > > > > http://ssdweb01.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/welcome.htm#EZ-S.M.A.R.T. > > > > ------------------ > > From:Tom Trottier, ACT Productions Inc. > > __o tom@act.ca http://www.act.ca > > _ \< +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 > > (*)/'(*) 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 2P3 > > "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein > ________________________________________________________ > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 25 01:01:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA28120 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:01:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02550; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:00:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 00:58:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02266; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 00:58:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from venus.treco.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02253; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 00:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from venus.treco.net (209.208.36.2 -> venus.treco.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 00:58:48 -0400 Received: from treco.net (stu77.treco.net [209.208.36.77]) by venus.treco.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA07326; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 00:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <379A994E.69494395@treco.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 00:57:50 -0400 From: Bill Morrow Organization: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net CC: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu, tom@act.ca, bill@thinkpads.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 2nd HDD [was: HD Failure and EZ-S.M.A.R.T.] References: <19990724201555Z324674-13022+13@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> <379A4C71.6395F4D0@netzero.net> <379A59E1.2A10@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: NONO.. in a 770, no jumper is needed.. not master, slave or cable select, though cable select won't hurt anything.. Bruce Markowitz wrote: > Try changing the jumper to "single" or master (try both). I believe the > second hard drive uses a second IDE adaptor, so it will not work as a > slave. > > Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > > > > Help! > > > > I got a Travelstar HDD mechanically installed with the bracket > > and the IBM adaptor, with the jumper as "slave" > > > > It's recognized by the BIOS, but with > > DEV 151 (HDD in UltraBayII) > > ERR 82 (?) > > FRU 6210 (?) > > and a blurb about "registers" > > > > The machine is a TP770 1AU > > > > The 2nd HDD is not recognized by Win95 or DOS and doesn't > > appear in the EZ-S.M.A.R.T window either. > > > > And now? Doesn't need to be partitioned and formated? Is > > this done by some of the other utilities in that IBM storage > > URL? > > > > Tom Trottier wrote: > > > > > > Juan-Carlos, > > > > > > Thanks for the URL. IBM stil has it, and they have a variety of other > > > valuable disk config/test programs as well. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > --- Original Message --- > > > Date sent: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:45:08 -0700 > > > From: Juan-Carlos Lerman > > > > > > > To see if the IBM courtesy version is available check the IBM > > > > storage division pages at: > > > > > > > > http://ssdweb01.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/welcome.htm#EZ-S.M.A.R.T. > > > > > > ------------------ > > > From:Tom Trottier, ACT Productions Inc. > > > __o tom@act.ca http://www.act.ca > > > _ \< +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 > > > (*)/'(*) 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 2P3 > > > "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein > > ________________________________________________________ > > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- Live long and prosper, Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) CSi ThinkPad Forum SYSOP WEB page http://thinkpads.com, SYSOP http://thinkpads.com/enter.html SYSOP E-Mail: bill@thinkpads.com, morrow@treco.net 770Z-8AU, 28gigs, 320megs, 760ED, 760CD, 755CE, (5)701C, 750C the term ThinkPad(c) is a copyright of IBM corp. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 25 01:53:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA28356 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04252; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:52:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:51:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04050; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:51:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04036; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:51:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:51:03 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-340.gate.net [199.227.131.149]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA32344; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:50:59 -0400 Message-ID: <379AA5B4.C913A1CC@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:50:44 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Turgut Kalfaoglu CC: Jonathan Berry , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 600E HD died fast References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unless exorbitantly priced, you bet..! but i thought the 600 had a 3 year warranty..?! at least those sold now, do..! Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: > CompuUSA just called to say that my warrantee was expiring, if I would pay > for another two years's worth of warrantee. I live overseas, I had bought > the TP600 when I was in the states last year; do you think it's a good > idea to renew? Thanks, -turgut > > ----- > Turgut Kalfaoglu, EgeNet Internet Services http://www.egenet.com.tr > All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 25 01:55:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA28370 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04702; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:54:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:52:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04348; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:52:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04333; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:52:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:52:52 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-340.gate.net [199.227.131.149]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA32350; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:52:56 -0400 Message-ID: <379AA629.CCBC3669@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:52:41 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Findeis CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Any production numbers for ThinkPad models References: <3.0.32.19990724150211.006c7d5c@mail.bucknell.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: the 560 has been in production for several years.. with the same cabling.. the 770 uses the same floppy cable, but its linger to accomodate the larger floppy it comes with.. no idea on exact production run numbers.. Peter Findeis wrote: > Hi all, > Some models of ThinkPads must have sold better than others. Anyone know of > production or sales numbers for the various models of ThinkPads? I sell > 3.5" external floppy drives on eBay and offer the cable as an option (so > far the 560 has been the most popular, but I'm wondering if I should also > stock the 365X/XD cable). > Cheers, > -Pete Findeis -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 25 02:13:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA28630 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 02:13:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05519; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 02:12:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 02:10:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05267; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 02:10:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05254; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 02:10:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 02:10:44 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-340.gate.net [199.227.131.149]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA450208; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 02:10:47 -0400 Message-ID: <379AAA57.FED8C95C@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 02:10:32 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Derek L. Seaman" CC: Sylvestre Meininger , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: HD Failure References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: http://ssdweb01.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/welcome.htm#EZ-S.M.A.R.T my first response was a bit racy, SOOO.. if you don't have this link by NOW, now you do..!! :-) and i suppose this is one of those things i should have on my web site.. :-) Derek L. Seaman wrote: > Yeah what do I need to do for SMART? So far it seems DUMB to me. > > On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Bill Morrow wrote: > > > Sylvestre... > > Apparently THIS particular TP600E does have an IBM drive.. > > (i asked about that) > > and yes, all are S.M.A.R.T. drives.. > > but since you mention it, i'm not sure i actually know which utility > > actually monitors the smart capability of these drives.. > > > > i, personally, use a utility to look at the smart drive... end get data off > > it.. > > > > a call to IBM might shed some light on this.. > > > > Sylvestre Meininger wrote: > > > > > I thought high-end TPs Hard Drives were SMART enabled ??... > > > > > > I believe SMART is designed to monitor physical HD failure risk and > > > prevent just this kind of problems. > > > > > > Could the fact that this 600E had (maybe) an Hitachi drive mean that > > > it's not SMART ?? > > > > > > Gee... one of the reason I bought my 770 was the IBM SMART hard disk. I > > > hope this feature does work. > > > > > > Any one knows if the end user needs to enable it himself ? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > -- > > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > > > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > > vary, Done on a > > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > > > > > -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 25 13:40:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA02281 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02779; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:35:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:33:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02666; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:33:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02652; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:33:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.40 -> mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:33:24 -0400 Received: from 770 ([12.79.13.131]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990725173321.VPQM5731@770>; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:33:21 +0000 Message-ID: <379B49FD.761E@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:31:41 -0400 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Morrow CC: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu, tom@act.ca, bill@thinkpads.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 2nd HDD [was: HD Failure and EZ-S.M.A.R.T.] References: <19990724201555Z324674-13022+13@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> <379A4C71.6395F4D0@netzero.net> <379A59E1.2A10@worldnet.att.net> <379A994E.69494395@treco.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: That;s what I meant - It should not be set to slave. Bill Morrow wrote: > > NONO.. > in a 770, no jumper is needed.. > not master, slave or cable select, though cable select won't hurt anything.. > > Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > > Try changing the jumper to "single" or master (try both). I believe the > > second hard drive uses a second IDE adaptor, so it will not work as a > > slave. > > > > Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > > > > > > Help! > > > > > > I got a Travelstar HDD mechanically installed with the bracket > > > and the IBM adaptor, with the jumper as "slave" > > > > > > It's recognized by the BIOS, but with > > > DEV 151 (HDD in UltraBayII) > > > ERR 82 (?) > > > FRU 6210 (?) > > > and a blurb about "registers" > > > > > > The machine is a TP770 1AU > > > > > > The 2nd HDD is not recognized by Win95 or DOS and doesn't > > > appear in the EZ-S.M.A.R.T window either. > > > > > > And now? Doesn't need to be partitioned and formated? Is > > > this done by some of the other utilities in that IBM storage > > > URL? > > > > > > Tom Trottier wrote: > > > > > > > > Juan-Carlos, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the URL. IBM stil has it, and they have a variety of other > > > > valuable disk config/test programs as well. > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > --- Original Message --- > > > > Date sent: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:45:08 -0700 > > > > From: Juan-Carlos Lerman > > > > > > > > > To see if the IBM courtesy version is available check the IBM > > > > > storage division pages at: > > > > > > > > > > http://ssdweb01.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/welcome.htm#EZ-S.M.A.R.T. > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > From:Tom Trottier, ACT Productions Inc. > > > > __o tom@act.ca http://www.act.ca > > > > _ \< +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 > > > > (*)/'(*) 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 2P3 > > > > "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein > > > ________________________________________________________ > > > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > > > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > > > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > -- > Live long and prosper, Happy Trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > CSi ThinkPad Forum SYSOP > WEB page http://thinkpads.com, SYSOP > http://thinkpads.com/enter.html SYSOP > E-Mail: > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow@treco.net > 770Z-8AU, 28gigs, 320megs, > 760ED, 760CD, 755CE, (5)701C, 750C > the term ThinkPad(c) is a copyright of IBM corp. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 25 20:13:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA05704 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:13:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25922; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:08:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:08:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25744; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:07:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25658; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:07:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.14 -> dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:07:46 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA07302 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:07:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907260007.TAA07302@dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga3-13.ix.netcom.com(207.222.234.141) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma007291; Sun Jul 25 19:07:16 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:08:04 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990725164700.007fb160@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cell phones List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:47:00 -0400, Mark Bell wrote: >The data kit most likely consists of a PCMCIA Modem card and interface >cable to connect via an analog signal: Thanks for the input. I suppose one could interject a digital-to-analog converter, and just use the cord with an analog pc card modem? Allan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 25 21:13:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06337 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:13:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01740; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:09:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:08:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01657; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:08:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from venus.treco.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18798; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from venus.treco.net (209.208.36.2 -> venus.treco.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:21:49 -0400 Received: from treco.net (stu72.treco.net [209.208.36.72]) by venus.treco.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA06461; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <379B9BC7.2B6224D5@treco.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:20:40 -0400 From: Bill Morrow Organization: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net CC: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu, tom@act.ca, bill@thinkpads.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 2nd HDD [was: HD Failure and EZ-S.M.A.R.T.] References: <19990724201555Z324674-13022+13@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> <379A4C71.6395F4D0@netzero.net> <379A59E1.2A10@worldnet.att.net> <379A994E.69494395@treco.net> <379B49FD.761E@worldnet.att.net> <379B5AB5.800EE717@netzero.net> <379B5C7D.2A09@worldnet.att.net> <379B5F4E.B78D69A1@netzero.net> <379B5FDB.3936@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: NONO.. again.. if you have two drives at the same time, fdsik will not allow you to make both bootable drives.. (i.e. if one is bootable, thats all it'll allow, unless things have changed recently) boot from a floppy and have only the target drive in place.. less chance of screwing up too.. Bruce Markowitz wrote: > Boot with it in the UltraBay > run FDISK > choose #5, change drives > Pick drive #2 > Follow the directions! > Make sure you are working with the proper drive in FDISK, or you will > zap your existing drive! > OR > Just pit it into themain drive bay, and run your recoveryu CD-ROM > That will set it up as a brand new drive, and you can adjust it from > there! > > Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > > > > Then, do I boot from a floppy with the unformatted > > disk in the main bay or will FDISK see it in the > > UltraBay II? > > > > Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > > > > > You need to use FDISK to create a partition before the OS will see it. > > > Until then only FDISK (and Partition Magic and the like) will be able to > > > see the media. Once you create the partition, you should be able to > > > format it in W95 > > > > > > Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > > > > > > > > To all disk gurus: > > > > > > > > Thanks! you were right. Without any jumper it passes all > > > > BIOS tests and it's recognized by EZ-S.M.A.R.T. although > > > > the smart thing sees it as Disk #2 (Disk #0 being the main > > > > HDD). > > > > > > > > BTW, the exquisite piece of mechanical and electronic parts > > > > offered by Bill Morrow from thinkpads.com seems to be > > > > perfectly designed and constructed. Notice that I said > > > > *offered* rather than *marketed* ;-) [ just earning "points" > > > > for future "discounts"... ;-) ] > > > > > > > > Now, disk gurus, I need to get Win95 to see the second HDD. > > > > Do I run fdisk after booting from a DOS floppy? > > > > Or one of the IBM utilities on the storage web page? > > > > Or did I miss something on the BIOS screen? > > > > > > > > Lost in HDD space. > > > > > > > > JC > > > > > > > > Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > > > > > > > > > That;s what I meant - > > > > > It should not be set to slave. > > > > > > > > > > Bill Morrow wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > NONO.. > > > > > > in a 770, no jumper is needed.. > > > > > > not master, slave or cable select, though cable select won't hurt anything.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try changing the jumper to "single" or master (try both). I believe the > > > > > > > second hard drive uses a second IDE adaptor, so it will not work as a > > > > > > > slave. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I got a Travelstar HDD mechanically installed with the bracket > > > > > > > > and the IBM adaptor, with the jumper as "slave" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's recognized by the BIOS, but with > > > > > > > > DEV 151 (HDD in UltraBayII) > > > > > > > > ERR 82 (?) > > > > > > > > FRU 6210 (?) > > > > > > > > and a blurb about "registers" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The machine is a TP770 1AU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 2nd HDD is not recognized by Win95 or DOS and doesn't > > > > > > > > appear in the EZ-S.M.A.R.T window either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And now? Doesn't need to be partitioned and formated? Is > > > > > > > > this done by some of the other utilities in that IBM storage > > > > > > > > URL? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Trottier wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Juan-Carlos, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the URL. IBM stil has it, and they have a variety of other > > > > > > > > > valuable disk config/test programs as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Original Message --- > > > > > > > > > Date sent: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:45:08 -0700 > > > > > > > > > From: Juan-Carlos Lerman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To see if the IBM courtesy version is available check the IBM > > > > > > > > > > storage division pages at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://ssdweb01.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/welcome.htm#EZ-S.M.A.R.T. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > > > > > From:Tom Trottier, ACT Productions Inc. > > > > > > > > > __o tom@act.ca http://www.act.ca > > > > > > > > > _ \< +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 > > > > > > > > > (*)/'(*) 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 2P3 > > > > > > > > > "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > > > > > > > > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > > > > > > > > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Live long and prosper, Happy Trails... > > > > > > > > > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > > > > > CSi ThinkPad Forum SYSOP > > > > > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com, SYSOP > > > > > > http://thinkpads.com/enter.html SYSOP > > > > > > E-Mail: > > > > > > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow@treco.net > > > > > > 770Z-8AU, 28gigs, 320megs, > > > > > > 760ED, 760CD, 755CE, (5)701C, 750C > > > > > > the term ThinkPad(c) is a copyright of IBM corp. > > > > ________________________________________________________ > > > > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > > > > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > > > > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > ________________________________________________________ > > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- Live long and prosper, Happy Trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) CSi ThinkPad Forum SYSOP WEB page http://thinkpads.com, SYSOP http://thinkpads.com/enter.html SYSOP E-Mail: bill@thinkpads.com, morrow@treco.net 770Z-8AU, 28gigs, 320megs, 760ED, 760CD, 755CE, (5)701C, 750C the term ThinkPad(c) is a copyright of IBM corp. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 25 21:14:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06349 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:14:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08816; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:42:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08709; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08691; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:42:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.10 -> dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:42:18 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA11440 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:42:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907251942.OAA11440@dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga2-17.ix.netcom.com(207.222.234.81) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma011368; Sun Jul 25 14:41:58 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:42:47 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <37855462.3F74@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Cell phones List-Unsubscribe: My Nokia 5160 digital "cell" phone has a modem inside it. I realize this type connection is s l o w, but methinks slow beats no connection. The wire connecting the phone to the serial port is 45$ US. There is a 'data kit' that costs $190 US. Is the cable all that is needed? The company guys don't have a clue. Allan Ballard From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 25 21:14:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06353 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:14:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07772; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:22:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:21:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07666; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:21:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07631; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:21:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.39 -> mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:21:23 -0400 Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.31.147]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990725192120.UFGK25099@dts-jl>; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:21:20 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990725152135.00f128f0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:21:35 -0400 To: Turgut Kalfaoglu From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: 600E HD died fast Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:28 PM 7/24/99 +0400, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: >CompuUSA just called to say that my warrantee was expiring, if I would pay >for another two years's worth of warrantee. I live overseas, I had bought >the TP600 when I was in the states last year; do you think it's a good >idea to renew? Thanks, -turgut > Is this CompUSA's warranty or IBM's warranty that is expiring? As far as I know, all the TP600's have come with a 3-year warranty from IBM, so I don't understand how it could be expiring this soon. Was it a refurbished item? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 25 21:14:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06357 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:14:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10980; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:45:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:44:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10870; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:44:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10824; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:43:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:43:14 -0400 Received: from p2-450 (client-151-204-210-2.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.2]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA17384; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:42:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990725164700.007fb160@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:47:00 -0400 To: "Allan Ballard" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Cell phones In-Reply-To: <199907251942.OAA11440@dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com> References: <37855462.3F74@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 03:42 PM 07/25/1999 -0400, Allan Ballard wrote: >My Nokia 5160 digital "cell" phone has a modem inside it. > >I realize this type connection is s l o w, but methinks slow beats >no connection. > >The wire connecting the phone to the serial port is 45$ US. There >is a 'data kit' that costs $190 US. > >Is the cable all that is needed? The company guys don't have a >clue. A 5160 is a TDMA phone (AT&T supports the TDMA digital network and fallback NAMPS Analog network). The data kit most likely consists of a PCMCIA Modem card and interface cable to connect via an analog signal: Laptop -> PCMCIA Modem (Cellular capable EX-XJ5560) -> Cable -> Phone. This rig will allow you to dial out and connect to any ISP. Analog data capabilities are rated up to 9600bps, but don't expect that high of a connect. Most users get 1200-2400 and are usually filled with delight to reach 4800bps. The data cable will interface your phone to your desktop, but it will not allow you to dial out. The 5160 is not natively data/fax capable. The interface probably will allow you to program your phone, send new ringtones to it or modify/add new games. If you want to look into competing cellular technologies: CDMA is slated to have true data/digital features added (Baby Bell's use CDMA, so it is everywhere). GSM is already data enabled and it is a 100% digital network rated @ 9600bps so you connect at much higher rates on average. It is slated to have its data infrastructure upgraded to 14400bps. For data communications, it is the creme de la creme right now, but coverage is sporatic, expensive and there is no fallback to analog in those remote, barren locations. :) If you live in the US, then CDMA/TDMA are the dominant technologies since the Baby Bell's use CDMA and AT&T uses TDMA. GSM has sporatic coverage. I used to use a Nokia 9000il (GSM) and I ended up switching to a StarTac 7760 (CDMA) due to the lack of adequate GSM coverage stateside. The only true advantage I could see for GSM was the true digital/data network and extra messaging/support services that come with its pure digital network. I had ZERO problems connecting and checking my email at 9600bps. I've tried using the 7760 and a friend's 7790 (TDMA) for data communications, and it is horrendous in comparison. Mark ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 25 21:15:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06382 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:15:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05571; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:52:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05473; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:52:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05446; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.40 -> mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:52:20 -0400 Received: from 770 ([12.79.13.199]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990725185216.WONW5731@770>; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 18:52:16 +0000 Message-ID: <379B5C7D.2A09@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:50:37 -0400 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu CC: Bill Morrow , tom@act.ca, bill@thinkpads.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 2nd HDD [was: HD Failure and EZ-S.M.A.R.T.] References: <19990724201555Z324674-13022+13@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> <379A4C71.6395F4D0@netzero.net> <379A59E1.2A10@worldnet.att.net> <379A994E.69494395@treco.net> <379B49FD.761E@worldnet.att.net> <379B5AB5.800EE717@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: You need to use FDISK to create a partition before the OS will see it. Until then only FDISK (and Partition Magic and the like) will be able to see the media. Once you create the partition, you should be able to format it in W95 Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > > To all disk gurus: > > Thanks! you were right. Without any jumper it passes all > BIOS tests and it's recognized by EZ-S.M.A.R.T. although > the smart thing sees it as Disk #2 (Disk #0 being the main > HDD). > > BTW, the exquisite piece of mechanical and electronic parts > offered by Bill Morrow from thinkpads.com seems to be > perfectly designed and constructed. Notice that I said > *offered* rather than *marketed* ;-) [ just earning "points" > for future "discounts"... ;-) ] > > Now, disk gurus, I need to get Win95 to see the second HDD. > Do I run fdisk after booting from a DOS floppy? > Or one of the IBM utilities on the storage web page? > Or did I miss something on the BIOS screen? > > Lost in HDD space. > > JC > > Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > > > That;s what I meant - > > It should not be set to slave. > > > > Bill Morrow wrote: > > > > > > NONO.. > > > in a 770, no jumper is needed.. > > > not master, slave or cable select, though cable select won't hurt anything.. > > > > > > Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > > > > > > Try changing the jumper to "single" or master (try both). I believe the > > > > second hard drive uses a second IDE adaptor, so it will not work as a > > > > slave. > > > > > > > > Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Help! > > > > > > > > > > I got a Travelstar HDD mechanically installed with the bracket > > > > > and the IBM adaptor, with the jumper as "slave" > > > > > > > > > > It's recognized by the BIOS, but with > > > > > DEV 151 (HDD in UltraBayII) > > > > > ERR 82 (?) > > > > > FRU 6210 (?) > > > > > and a blurb about "registers" > > > > > > > > > > The machine is a TP770 1AU > > > > > > > > > > The 2nd HDD is not recognized by Win95 or DOS and doesn't > > > > > appear in the EZ-S.M.A.R.T window either. > > > > > > > > > > And now? Doesn't need to be partitioned and formated? Is > > > > > this done by some of the other utilities in that IBM storage > > > > > URL? > > > > > > > > > > Tom Trottier wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Juan-Carlos, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the URL. IBM stil has it, and they have a variety of other > > > > > > valuable disk config/test programs as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Original Message --- > > > > > > Date sent: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:45:08 -0700 > > > > > > From: Juan-Carlos Lerman > > > > > > > > > > > > > To see if the IBM courtesy version is available check the IBM > > > > > > > storage division pages at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://ssdweb01.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/welcome.htm#EZ-S.M.A.R.T. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > > From:Tom Trottier, ACT Productions Inc. > > > > > > __o tom@act.ca http://www.act.ca > > > > > > _ \< +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 > > > > > > (*)/'(*) 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 2P3 > > > > > > "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein > > > > > ________________________________________________________ > > > > > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > > > > > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > > > > > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > > > > > -- > > > Live long and prosper, Happy Trails... > > > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > > CSi ThinkPad Forum SYSOP > > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com, SYSOP > > > http://thinkpads.com/enter.html SYSOP > > > E-Mail: > > > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow@treco.net > > > 770Z-8AU, 28gigs, 320megs, > > > 760ED, 760CD, 755CE, (5)701C, 750C > > > the term ThinkPad(c) is a copyright of IBM corp. > ________________________________________________________ > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 25 21:15:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06386 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:15:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06303; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:03:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06227; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:03:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail6.lax.netzero.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06214; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail6.lax.netzero.net (209.0.233.60 -> mail6.lax.netzero.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:03:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 5358 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jul 1999 19:03:20 -0000 Received: from pppa49-tucson3-1r80.saturn.bbn.com (HELO netzero.net) (4.11.221.23) by mail6.lax.netzero.net with SMTP; 25 Jul 1999 19:03:20 -0000 Message-ID: <379B5F4E.B78D69A1@netzero.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 12:02:38 -0700 From: Juan-Carlos Lerman Reply-To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net CC: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu, Bill Morrow , tom@act.ca, bill@thinkpads.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 2nd HDD [was: HD Failure and EZ-S.M.A.R.T.] References: <19990724201555Z324674-13022+13@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> <379A4C71.6395F4D0@netzero.net> <379A59E1.2A10@worldnet.att.net> <379A994E.69494395@treco.net> <379B49FD.761E@worldnet.att.net> <379B5AB5.800EE717@netzero.net> <379B5C7D.2A09@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Then, do I boot from a floppy with the unformatted disk in the main bay or will FDISK see it in the UltraBay II? Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > You need to use FDISK to create a partition before the OS will see it. > Until then only FDISK (and Partition Magic and the like) will be able to > see the media. Once you create the partition, you should be able to > format it in W95 > > Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > > > > To all disk gurus: > > > > Thanks! you were right. Without any jumper it passes all > > BIOS tests and it's recognized by EZ-S.M.A.R.T. although > > the smart thing sees it as Disk #2 (Disk #0 being the main > > HDD). > > > > BTW, the exquisite piece of mechanical and electronic parts > > offered by Bill Morrow from thinkpads.com seems to be > > perfectly designed and constructed. Notice that I said > > *offered* rather than *marketed* ;-) [ just earning "points" > > for future "discounts"... ;-) ] > > > > Now, disk gurus, I need to get Win95 to see the second HDD. > > Do I run fdisk after booting from a DOS floppy? > > Or one of the IBM utilities on the storage web page? > > Or did I miss something on the BIOS screen? > > > > Lost in HDD space. > > > > JC > > > > Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > > > > > That;s what I meant - > > > It should not be set to slave. > > > > > > Bill Morrow wrote: > > > > > > > > NONO.. > > > > in a 770, no jumper is needed.. > > > > not master, slave or cable select, though cable select won't hurt anything.. > > > > > > > > Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > > > > > > > > Try changing the jumper to "single" or master (try both). I believe the > > > > > second hard drive uses a second IDE adaptor, so it will not work as a > > > > > slave. > > > > > > > > > > Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Help! > > > > > > > > > > > > I got a Travelstar HDD mechanically installed with the bracket > > > > > > and the IBM adaptor, with the jumper as "slave" > > > > > > > > > > > > It's recognized by the BIOS, but with > > > > > > DEV 151 (HDD in UltraBayII) > > > > > > ERR 82 (?) > > > > > > FRU 6210 (?) > > > > > > and a blurb about "registers" > > > > > > > > > > > > The machine is a TP770 1AU > > > > > > > > > > > > The 2nd HDD is not recognized by Win95 or DOS and doesn't > > > > > > appear in the EZ-S.M.A.R.T window either. > > > > > > > > > > > > And now? Doesn't need to be partitioned and formated? Is > > > > > > this done by some of the other utilities in that IBM storage > > > > > > URL? > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Trottier wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Juan-Carlos, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the URL. IBM stil has it, and they have a variety of other > > > > > > > valuable disk config/test programs as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Original Message --- > > > > > > > Date sent: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:45:08 -0700 > > > > > > > From: Juan-Carlos Lerman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To see if the IBM courtesy version is available check the IBM > > > > > > > > storage division pages at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://ssdweb01.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/welcome.htm#EZ-S.M.A.R.T. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > > > From:Tom Trottier, ACT Productions Inc. > > > > > > > __o tom@act.ca http://www.act.ca > > > > > > > _ \< +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 > > > > > > > (*)/'(*) 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 2P3 > > > > > > > "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein > > > > > > ________________________________________________________ > > > > > > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > > > > > > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > > > > > > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Live long and prosper, Happy Trails... > > > > > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > > > CSi ThinkPad Forum SYSOP > > > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com, SYSOP > > > > http://thinkpads.com/enter.html SYSOP > > > > E-Mail: > > > > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow@treco.net > > > > 770Z-8AU, 28gigs, 320megs, > > > > 760ED, 760CD, 755CE, (5)701C, 750C > > > > the term ThinkPad(c) is a copyright of IBM corp. > > ________________________________________________________ > > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 25 21:15:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06390 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06788; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:07:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:06:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06689; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:06:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06676; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:06:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.39 -> mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:06:43 -0400 Received: from 770 ([12.79.15.143]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990725190640.UAOV25099@770>; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:06:40 +0000 Message-ID: <379B5FDB.3936@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:04:59 -0400 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu CC: Bill Morrow , tom@act.ca, bill@thinkpads.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 2nd HDD [was: HD Failure and EZ-S.M.A.R.T.] References: <19990724201555Z324674-13022+13@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> <379A4C71.6395F4D0@netzero.net> <379A59E1.2A10@worldnet.att.net> <379A994E.69494395@treco.net> <379B49FD.761E@worldnet.att.net> <379B5AB5.800EE717@netzero.net> <379B5C7D.2A09@worldnet.att.net> <379B5F4E.B78D69A1@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Boot with it in the UltraBay run FDISK choose #5, change drives Pick drive #2 Follow the directions! Make sure you are working with the proper drive in FDISK, or you will zap your existing drive! OR Just pit it into themain drive bay, and run your recoveryu CD-ROM That will set it up as a brand new drive, and you can adjust it from there! Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > > Then, do I boot from a floppy with the unformatted > disk in the main bay or will FDISK see it in the > UltraBay II? > > Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > > > You need to use FDISK to create a partition before the OS will see it. > > Until then only FDISK (and Partition Magic and the like) will be able to > > see the media. Once you create the partition, you should be able to > > format it in W95 > > > > Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > > > > > > To all disk gurus: > > > > > > Thanks! you were right. Without any jumper it passes all > > > BIOS tests and it's recognized by EZ-S.M.A.R.T. although > > > the smart thing sees it as Disk #2 (Disk #0 being the main > > > HDD). > > > > > > BTW, the exquisite piece of mechanical and electronic parts > > > offered by Bill Morrow from thinkpads.com seems to be > > > perfectly designed and constructed. Notice that I said > > > *offered* rather than *marketed* ;-) [ just earning "points" > > > for future "discounts"... ;-) ] > > > > > > Now, disk gurus, I need to get Win95 to see the second HDD. > > > Do I run fdisk after booting from a DOS floppy? > > > Or one of the IBM utilities on the storage web page? > > > Or did I miss something on the BIOS screen? > > > > > > Lost in HDD space. > > > > > > JC > > > > > > Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > > > > > > > That;s what I meant - > > > > It should not be set to slave. > > > > > > > > Bill Morrow wrote: > > > > > > > > > > NONO.. > > > > > in a 770, no jumper is needed.. > > > > > not master, slave or cable select, though cable select won't hurt anything.. > > > > > > > > > > Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Try changing the jumper to "single" or master (try both). I believe the > > > > > > second hard drive uses a second IDE adaptor, so it will not work as a > > > > > > slave. > > > > > > > > > > > > Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I got a Travelstar HDD mechanically installed with the bracket > > > > > > > and the IBM adaptor, with the jumper as "slave" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's recognized by the BIOS, but with > > > > > > > DEV 151 (HDD in UltraBayII) > > > > > > > ERR 82 (?) > > > > > > > FRU 6210 (?) > > > > > > > and a blurb about "registers" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The machine is a TP770 1AU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 2nd HDD is not recognized by Win95 or DOS and doesn't > > > > > > > appear in the EZ-S.M.A.R.T window either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And now? Doesn't need to be partitioned and formated? Is > > > > > > > this done by some of the other utilities in that IBM storage > > > > > > > URL? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Trottier wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Juan-Carlos, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the URL. IBM stil has it, and they have a variety of other > > > > > > > > valuable disk config/test programs as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Original Message --- > > > > > > > > Date sent: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:45:08 -0700 > > > > > > > > From: Juan-Carlos Lerman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To see if the IBM courtesy version is available check the IBM > > > > > > > > > storage division pages at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://ssdweb01.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/welcome.htm#EZ-S.M.A.R.T. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > > > > From:Tom Trottier, ACT Productions Inc. > > > > > > > > __o tom@act.ca http://www.act.ca > > > > > > > > _ \< +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 > > > > > > > > (*)/'(*) 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 2P3 > > > > > > > > "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > > > > > > > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > > > > > > > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Live long and prosper, Happy Trails... > > > > > > > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > > > > CSi ThinkPad Forum SYSOP > > > > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com, SYSOP > > > > > http://thinkpads.com/enter.html SYSOP > > > > > E-Mail: > > > > > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow@treco.net > > > > > 770Z-8AU, 28gigs, 320megs, > > > > > 760ED, 760CD, 755CE, (5)701C, 750C > > > > > the term ThinkPad(c) is a copyright of IBM corp. > > > ________________________________________________________ > > > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > > > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > > > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > ________________________________________________________ > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sun Jul 25 21:15:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA06376 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:15:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04892; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:44:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:43:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04765; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:43:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail4.lax.netzero.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04750; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:43:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail4.lax.netzero.net (209.0.233.39 -> mail4.lax.netzero.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:43:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 26445 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jul 1999 18:43:44 -0000 Received: from pppa37-tucson5-1r127.saturn.bbn.com (HELO netzero.net) (4.11.219.163) by mail4.lax.netzero.net with SMTP; 25 Jul 1999 18:43:44 -0000 Message-ID: <379B5AB5.800EE717@netzero.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:43:02 -0700 From: Juan-Carlos Lerman Reply-To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net CC: Bill Morrow , jclerm@aztec.asu.edu, tom@act.ca, bill@thinkpads.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 2nd HDD [was: HD Failure and EZ-S.M.A.R.T.] References: <19990724201555Z324674-13022+13@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> <379A4C71.6395F4D0@netzero.net> <379A59E1.2A10@worldnet.att.net> <379A994E.69494395@treco.net> <379B49FD.761E@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: To all disk gurus: Thanks! you were right. Without any jumper it passes all BIOS tests and it's recognized by EZ-S.M.A.R.T. although the smart thing sees it as Disk #2 (Disk #0 being the main HDD). BTW, the exquisite piece of mechanical and electronic parts offered by Bill Morrow from thinkpads.com seems to be perfectly designed and constructed. Notice that I said *offered* rather than *marketed* ;-) [ just earning "points" for future "discounts"... ;-) ] Now, disk gurus, I need to get Win95 to see the second HDD. Do I run fdisk after booting from a DOS floppy? Or one of the IBM utilities on the storage web page? Or did I miss something on the BIOS screen? Lost in HDD space. JC Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > That;s what I meant - > It should not be set to slave. > > Bill Morrow wrote: > > > > NONO.. > > in a 770, no jumper is needed.. > > not master, slave or cable select, though cable select won't hurt anything.. > > > > Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > > > > Try changing the jumper to "single" or master (try both). I believe the > > > second hard drive uses a second IDE adaptor, so it will not work as a > > > slave. > > > > > > Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: > > > > > > > > Help! > > > > > > > > I got a Travelstar HDD mechanically installed with the bracket > > > > and the IBM adaptor, with the jumper as "slave" > > > > > > > > It's recognized by the BIOS, but with > > > > DEV 151 (HDD in UltraBayII) > > > > ERR 82 (?) > > > > FRU 6210 (?) > > > > and a blurb about "registers" > > > > > > > > The machine is a TP770 1AU > > > > > > > > The 2nd HDD is not recognized by Win95 or DOS and doesn't > > > > appear in the EZ-S.M.A.R.T window either. > > > > > > > > And now? Doesn't need to be partitioned and formated? Is > > > > this done by some of the other utilities in that IBM storage > > > > URL? > > > > > > > > Tom Trottier wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Juan-Carlos, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the URL. IBM stil has it, and they have a variety of other > > > > > valuable disk config/test programs as well. > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > --- Original Message --- > > > > > Date sent: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:45:08 -0700 > > > > > From: Juan-Carlos Lerman > > > > > > > > > > > To see if the IBM courtesy version is available check the IBM > > > > > > storage division pages at: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://ssdweb01.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/welcome.htm#EZ-S.M.A.R.T. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > From:Tom Trottier, ACT Productions Inc. > > > > > __o tom@act.ca http://www.act.ca > > > > > _ \< +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 > > > > > (*)/'(*) 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 2P3 > > > > > "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein > > > > ________________________________________________________ > > > > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > > > > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > > > > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > > > -- > > Live long and prosper, Happy Trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > CSi ThinkPad Forum SYSOP > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com, SYSOP > > http://thinkpads.com/enter.html SYSOP > > E-Mail: > > bill@thinkpads.com, morrow@treco.net > > 770Z-8AU, 28gigs, 320megs, > > 760ED, 760CD, 755CE, (5)701C, 750C > > the term ThinkPad(c) is a copyright of IBM corp. ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 26 00:21:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA07958 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 00:21:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11152; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 00:17:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 00:16:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10968; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 00:16:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sttlpop2.sttl.uswest.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10948; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 00:16:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sttlpop2.sttl.uswest.net (206.81.192.2 -> sttlpop2.sttl.uswest.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 00:16:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 14967 invoked by alias); 26 Jul 1999 04:16:12 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 14938 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jul 1999 04:16:11 -0000 Received: from pdslppp238.sttl.uswest.net (HELO ixswykpv) (63.224.33.238) by sttlpop2.sttl.uswest.net with SMTP; 26 Jul 1999 04:16:11 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990725211442.00900c90@pop.sttl.uswest.net> X-Sender: jmcjr@pop.sttl.uswest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:14:42 -0700 To: "Allan Ballard" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" From: John Callahan Subject: Re: Cell phones In-Reply-To: <199907251942.OAA11440@dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com> References: <37855462.3F74@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Allan, You may also want to take a look at GoAmerica http://www.goamerica.net/ GoAmerica is a reseller for AT&T's CDPD (cellular digital packet data) service which uses the analog cellular network. CDPD requires a special modem. It nominally delivers 19.2, but I've found the actual performance to be variable. Early Sunday morning with no one on the cellular voice network performance can be pretty good. At other times thruput can be slower. However, CDPD is probably faster than using an analog cell phone with a modem and may also be cheaper if you spend very much time on the net using a wireless connection. I don't know exactly what promotions GoAmerica has now but when I signed up in December I got a Mitsubushi cellular phone which contains a CDPD modem free, with the necessary software and a serial cable for my computer. I also got a free cigarette lighter adapter/charger. The downside is one more thing to carry and one more battery to charge at night. (The phone also comes with a 110-volt charger.) I am very happy with the Mitsubishi phone. I get about three hours of online time from a fully charged battery. The GoAmerica software installation was a little tricky. To say the installation documentation was sparse is being extremely charitable. However, the tech support to help with the installation was quite good. There are also PCMCIA CDPD modems, but they cost up to $400 six months ago. I don't know the cost now. BTW, GoAmerica resells AT&T CDPD but GoAmerica's people know far more about the service than any of the AT&T people. It was finally an AT&T supervisor who referred me to GoAmerica. I'm not using the service very much now although I continue to keep my account. I have DSL (digital subscriber link) on a wired phone >from US West. It's very fast. US West promises 256K and usually, in my location, delivers twice that. Fast is good! I used my GoAmerica connection for both e-mail and Web browsing. Web browsing can be pretty slow compared to a 56K modem. E-mail can even be slow if you get a lot of messages. Good luck in your quest for wireless connectivity. At 03:42 PM 7/25/99 -0400, Allan Ballard wrote: >My Nokia 5160 digital "cell" phone has a modem inside it. > >I realize this type connection is s l o w, but methinks slow beats >no connection. > >The wire connecting the phone to the serial port is 45$ US. There >is a 'data kit' that costs $190 US. > >Is the cable all that is needed? The company guys don't have a >clue. > >Allan Ballard > > > John Callahan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 26 05:56:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA09820 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 05:56:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA05441; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 05:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 05:50:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA05357; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 05:50:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA05344; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 05:50:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (134.102.224.3 -> bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 05:50:45 -0400 Received: from henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (postfix@henker.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.219.172]) by bettina.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA20980 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:51:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from henker-1.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (henker-1.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.217.98]) by henker-eth.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DF0124A; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:50:23 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:50:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Steffan Henke X-Sender: henker@henker-1.home.informatik.uni-bremen.de To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Cell phones In-Reply-To: <199907251942.OAA11440@dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 25 Jul 1999, Allan Ballard wrote: > My Nokia 5160 digital "cell" phone has a modem inside it. I don't know in particular about the 5160 but I assume it's a 1900MHz model ? Maybe then it can be compared to the Nokia 5110 900MHz GSM cellphones ? The 5110 does not really have a built-in modem, e.g., you can not directly talk to the phone via AT-commands. > I realize this type connection is s l o w, but methinks slow beats > no connection. I have a Nokia 8110 and have set up a BIG cache and local proxy which I fill up while on the LAN. When traveling, 9600bps is OK for email. > The wire connecting the phone to the serial port is 45$ US. There > is a 'data kit' that costs $190 US. This is probably the Nokia Data Suite. It sets up a softmodem so you get a virtual port to dial out and fax as well. > Is the cable all that is needed? The company guys don't have a > clue. Again, I don't know the 5160, but you will probably need the Software AND the cable. Have look at http://www.nokia.com or, if you are interestedt in Linux, join us at http://multivac.fatburen.org/gnokii Regards, Steffan -- ... Our continuing mission: To seek out knowledge of C, to explore strange UNIX commands, and to boldly code where no one has man page 4. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 26 09:24:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA10917 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:24:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12999; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:20:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:19:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12903; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:19:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon-msg03.cmg-europe.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12870; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon-msg03.cmg-europe.com (193.132.66.66) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:19:07 -0400 Received: by mailhost.carlson-marketing.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:18:26 +0100 Message-ID: <91976DBBDA57D211B61A0008C728578301137B51@MID-MSG01> From: "Murray, Pete" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: New 775/780? Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:22:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: As the 770 series is on the Z model and no 400 PII version has appeared, would anyone like to make a guess on when its replacement is due? The reason I ask is that I have the chance to order a new laptop, and I really don't want to get hold of a 770 and find out that the 775/780 is due out next month! Regards Pete Murray(TP701,560,390,600) From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 26 09:51:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA11183 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15718; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:44:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:43:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15603; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:43:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15590; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (206.173.118.93 -> uhura.concentric.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:43:53 -0400 Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id JAA17992; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:36:47 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from concentric.net (ts003d42.okc-ok.concentric.net [206.173.130.150]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id JAA12697; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:42:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <379C6646.2DEA802C@concentric.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 08:44:38 -0500 From: "Robert D. Baron" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: SelectaBase has ac adapter? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I can't tell from the picture/description: does the SelectaBase 600 port replicator have its own ac adapter & cord, or do you have to use the power brick & cord that come with the TP 600? I'm going to pick one up this week to take advantage of the rebate (also because I think I need it). If it does not come with its own power cord and transformer, I'll probably also pick up an Ultraslim 56W Adapter to carry in my travel bag so I don't have to fool with remembering to pack & unpack the cord & transformer on my desk....unless someone has something bad to say about this item.... Thanks, --Bob Baron From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 26 11:01:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA11814 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20464; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:56:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:55:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20363; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:55:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20327; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (192.134.240.50 -> uhbhic.uhb.fr) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:55:48 -0400 Received: from tp-770 (cb1341.uhb.fr [192.134.240.30]) by uhbhic.uhb.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with SMTP id QAA29301 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:55:43 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <379C78F3.3D6E@uhb.fr> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:04:19 +0200 From: Sylvestre Meininger X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Speculations... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Summer. A time of idleness. A time for speculation. Which, I hope, won't prove too pointless... As it was pointed out in this list a few times, it is becoming increasingly hard to justify the extra bucks, weight and size of a TP 770 over a less expansive, lighter and Oh so sleek 600. Unless you absolutely need 4 or 8Mb of video RAM, (optional) integrated DVD Hardware decoding and/or a 14.1" screen, what's the point of buying a 770 ? My point is, I can't see why IBM would continue producing the 770. Especially since the september/october release of new 600 models could very well include all these extras, including the fabled 13.7", 1280x1024 TFT Screen (and a *real* internal modem, please... Not the fake one which equips the 600E). To me, IBM can only justify the 770 line if it includes top of the notch (and often useless to all but a few) features. For example, the only good reason I bought the 770ED was the TV-out port. I think the newest 600s have one, so, as far as I'm concerned, IBM will have to come up with something new. Do you think the 770 will become a way to make money out of rich people/companies eager to have the best of the best (or is that already what it is ?) ? Or do you think IBM could come up with features so outstanding that they would again justify (to a reasonnable part of potential buyers) the 770 price and footprint ? (Like *true* high-definition video capture) This is where my summer speculation ends, as my brain cries for rest. I hope some of the List members can shed light on all this. sylvestre meininger From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 26 11:09:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA11893 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:09:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21439; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:04:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21286; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:04:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fw1.uhc.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21257; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:04:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fw1.uhc.com (168.183.16.135 -> gw.uhc.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:04:31 -0400 Received: from fw1.uhc.com (root@localhost) by fw1.uhc.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28289 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:04:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dts-jl (DTS_JL.uhc.com [10.145.181.71]) by fw1.uhc.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA28275 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:04:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990726110439.00ce3560@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:04:39 -0400 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: SelectaBase has ac adapter? In-Reply-To: <379C6646.2DEA802C@concentric.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:44 AM 7/26/99 -0500, Robert D. Baron wrote: >I can't tell from the picture/description: does the SelectaBase 600 port >replicator have its own ac adapter & cord, or do you have to use the >power brick & cord that come with the TP 600? > It uses the one that comes with the TP600. A royal PITA, if you ask me. I just went ahead and ordered a 2nd one for home and travel since I knew the chances of my remembering to crawl under my desk every day and get this one were nil. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 26 11:36:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA12239 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23196; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:27:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:26:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23069; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:26:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23055; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:26:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:26:14 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-163.gate.net [199.227.20.226]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA150908; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:26:18 -0400 Message-ID: <379C7E0A.73C5D368@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:26:02 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Murray, Pete" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: New 775/780 speculation, opinion, guesses References: <91976DBBDA57D211B61A0008C728578301137B51@MID-MSG01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: For more on this, see my response to sylvestre meininger... Murray, Pete wrote: > As the 770 series is on the Z model and no 400 PII version has appeared, > would anyone like to make a guess on when its replacement is due? > > The reason I ask is that I have the chance to order a new laptop, and I > really don't want to get hold of a 770 and find out that the 775/780 is due > out next month! > > Regards > > Pete Murray(TP701,560,390,600) -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 26 11:53:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA12497 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24857; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:44:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:43:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24677; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:42:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24615; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:42:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:42:14 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-163.gate.net [199.227.20.226]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA68900; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:41:53 -0400 Message-ID: <379C81B1.E96DBA97@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:41:37 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sylvestre Meininger CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Speculations... References: <379C78F3.3D6E@uhb.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Sylvestre... Sylvestre Meininger wrote: > Summer. in florida, it is always summer.. > A time of idleness. speak for yourself.. :-) > A time for speculation. > ahhh, now this is fun... > Which, I hope, won't prove too pointless... > HEHEH... > As it was pointed out in this list a few times, it is becoming > increasingly hard to justify the extra bucks, weight and size of a TP > 770 over a less expansive, lighter and Oh so sleek 600. > my GUESS's are:and always have been that the 770 series is a desktop replacement.. not meant to be caried hither and thither on a daily basis.. it is more flexible and less portable.. that the price point of the "senior" series of thinkpads will continue to drop.. that there will be new features available only on the "senior" model.. IMO, look for more connectivity (more ports), more flexability (places to add stuff)... > Unless you absolutely need 4 or 8Mb of video RAM, (optional) integrated > DVD Hardware decoding and/or a 14.1" screen, what's the point of buying > a 770 ? > the next machine is supposed to have a larger display.. > My point is, I can't see why IBM would continue producing the 770. > Especially since the september/october release of new 600 models could > very well include all these extras, including the fabled 13.7", > 1280x1024 TFT Screen (and a *real* internal modem, please... Not the > fake one which equips the 600E). > > To me, IBM can only justify the 770 line if it includes top of the notch > (and often useless to all but a few) features. > For example, the only good reason I bought the 770ED was the TV-out > port. I think the newest 600s have one, so, as far as I'm concerned, IBM > will have to come up with something new. > see above.. > Do you think the 770 will become a way to make money out of rich > people/companies eager to have the best of the best (or is that already > what it is ?) ? this job has been left to BMW, Prosche, Rolls Royce (now the VW Rolls), Cartier, Gucci, et al., > Or do you think IBM could come up with features so outstanding that they > would again justify (to a reasonnable part of potential buyers) the 770 > price and footprint ? (Like *true* high-definition video capture) > yes.. i think they will.. new neat features.. this is the way it has been since the inception of the thinkpad as a product... BUT, since nothing ever remains the same, except for change, then the future is foggy and all this is a big guess.. but if i were to make a guess, it would be that the thinkpad 775 (or whatever) still has life and a future.. > This is where my summer speculation ends, as my brain cries for rest. > it is monday morning here..! no rest or relaxation for a while now.. > I hope some of the List members can shed light on all this. > if it is enlightenment that you want, there are better places to go.. :-)better reading to do, with friendlier companions... its monday morning and i must go to work, but theres one thing to add.. IBM has been strangely silent (no leaks, very little gossip, or is it that all my friends are now gone?!) on the top model.. it might be that the 600 will grow a bit and the 770 will fade away.. -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 26 11:56:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA12537 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:56:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25853; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:52:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:51:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25763; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:51:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay04.netaddress.usa.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25750; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:51:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay04.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.184 -> relay04.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:51:51 -0400 Received: (qmail 9038 invoked from network); 26 Jul 1999 15:51:49 -0000 Received: from www0t.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.49) by outbound.netaddress.usa.net with SMTP; 26 Jul 1999 15:51:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 27574 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Jul 1999 15:51:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990726155151.27573.qmail@www0t.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.49 by www0t via web-mailer(M3.2.0.53) on Mon Jul 26 15:51:51 GMT 1999 Date: 26 Jul 99 10:51:51 CDT From: Rob Bell To: Bill Morrow Subject: Re: New 775/780 speculation, opinion, guesses CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.2.0.53) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: I don't think any such response came through the list... Or were you spe= aking of a future event?? Bill Morrow wrote: > For more on this, see my response to sylvestre meininger... ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 26 11:59:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA12576 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26297; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:54:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:53:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26129; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:53:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26049; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:53:37 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-163.gate.net [199.227.20.226]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA342670 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:53:45 -0400 Message-ID: <379C8479.5A61F015@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:53:29 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Speculations... References: <379C78F3.3D6E@uhb.fr> <379C81B1.E96DBA97@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Please note.. i am not entirely satisfied with the previous message.. i DO know that 15 inch displays have been seen on 'something'.. and, i think, if the 770 'senior' series of thinkpads were about to be dropped, more leaks would be around.. i THINK that the 770 is good for another few months and then around the last quarter a really neat new machine will present itself.. this is MY guess.. and it is based on nothing more than speculation..! if i DO learn anything, i'll post it here and on my web site.. -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 26 13:52:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA14142 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05822; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:49:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:46:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05606; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05468; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:45:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:45:04 -0400 Received: from p2-450 (client-151-204-210-98.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.98]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA00885; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:49:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990726134813.0358a6e0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:48:13 -0400 To: Sylvestre Meininger , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Speculations... In-Reply-To: <379C78F3.3D6E@uhb.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 05:04 PM 07/26/1999 +0200, Sylvestre Meininger wrote: >As it was pointed out in this list a few times, it is becoming >increasingly hard to justify the extra bucks, weight and size of a TP >770 over a less expansive, lighter and Oh so sleek 600. This is *SO* true. I recently augmented my 770z with a 600e after setting up one for a client. The 600e is a streamlined 770 series in most aspects, IMHO. >Unless you absolutely need 4 or 8Mb of video RAM, (optional) integrated >DVD Hardware decoding and/or a 14.1" screen, what's the point of buying >a 770 ? None.... On my 770z, I don't even use the DVD drive for movies. I use it as a CD-ROM. I will probably replace it with a 24x CDROM. Gee, my 600e has one of those too. >My point is, I can't see why IBM would continue producing the 770. >Especially since the september/october release of new 600 models could >very well include all these extras, including the fabled 13.7", >1280x1024 TFT Screen (and a *real* internal modem, please... Not the >fake one which equips the 600E). Every company has its, "flagship," line of units. I am sure the next gen of 770's will set them apart from the 600 series. The 14gig drive is not available on the 600 series due to its sheer size. The 770's you can literally throw any laptop drive in there. If the 600 series gets the 13.7" TFT SXGA screen in September, I will reallocate my 770z AND my 600e and replace it with the new model 600 series. Benchmarking my 600e and 770z (both P2-366), they come up within 2% of each other. Speedwise, they are almost identical. The 600e has all the ports and ultrabay unlike the 570/60 series. Again, IMHO, it is a steamline, tightly integrated 770. >To me, IBM can only justify the 770 line if it includes top of the notch >(and often useless to all but a few) features. >For example, the only good reason I bought the 770ED was the TV-out >port. I think the newest 600s have one, so, as far as I'm concerned, IBM >will have to come up with something new. This is exactly my point. :) IBM will continue to cram the 700 line of Thinkpads with everything possible. The 600 series will always be missing a few features which for the hardware jockey and poweruser will be missed. For me, I can't see the justification. The 600's are so sleek. Next to my 770z, I continue to look at the 600e in awe over it's weight and thickness. The 700 series are overkill, but I like it that way. >;) I have to admit there is comfort in knowing you have a 5 star notebook and it is loaded to the gills. On the flip side, the 600e is so damn sleek and light that it makes you question and compare the two. >Do you think the 770 will become a way to make money out of rich >people/companies eager to have the best of the best (or is that already >what it is ?) ? This is what I've always considered the 700 line (as I eagerly purchased them!) The 600 series is the first series from IBM to make me second guess getting a 700 series machine. >Or do you think IBM could come up with features so outstanding that they >would again justify (to a reasonnable part of potential buyers) the 770 >price and footprint ? (Like *true* high-definition video capture) I am sure IBM will cram the next gen of 700 series machines with everything they can think of. My only personal request is a better docking solution that yields true PCI bus speeds (The Dock III is terrible for 3D cards), and if they put a true mobile 3D graphics chipset in there (Rage will work). As always, I am a hardware junkie who anxiously awaits IBMs next assault on our laptop senses. I especially have an affinity for notebook computers. ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 26 13:59:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA14229 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:59:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06723; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:56:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:56:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06596; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:56:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out5.ibm.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06560; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:55:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out5.ibm.net (165.87.194.243 -> out5.ibm.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:55:45 -0400 Received: from suttlek (slip-32-100-191-95.ca.us.ibm.net [32.100.191.95]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA03092 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:55:30 GMT Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:56:56 -0700 Message-ID: <01BED755.93B139D0.ksuttle@ibm.net> From: "Kevin C. Suttle" Reply-To: "ksuttle@ibm.net" To: "'THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU'" Subject: [TP600E] ThinkPad Internal Modem Problems Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:56:44 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I am running Win NT 4.0 SP4 on a ThinkPad 600E Model 2645-55U. Supposedly, the laptop has an internal 56k v.90/x2 modem. No matter what I try, I cannot get the ThinkPad modem to connect at any speed faster than 28.8. I know it is not the phone line, because my desktop computer in the next room can connect on the same line at close to 56k. I've downloaded the latest modem patches from the IBM web site, but still no success. I've run the ThinkPad Modem utility and the modem is configured for 56k (v.90/x2). I've double-checked the control panel, and the modem is configured for 56k as well. Anyone with similar problems? Anyone with any solutions/suggestions? Thanks! Kevin Suttle ksuttle@ibm.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 26 14:49:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA15010 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:49:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11196; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:48:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:47:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11024; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:47:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from europa.veggie.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10997; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from europa.veggie.com (128.255.63.229 -> gauguin.weeg.uiowa.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:47:36 -0400 Received: (from bonak@localhost) by europa.veggie.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA14485 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:49:03 -0500 From: Esmail Bonakdarian Message-Id: <199907261849.NAA14485@europa.veggie.com> Subject: nitpick To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:49:03 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: esmail@uiowa.edu Reply-To: Esmail Bonakdarian Content-Type: text List-Unsubscribe: Greetings, Here is a little nitpick to the list, could we please try to exercise some restraint in the excessive quoting of previous messages? I realize that since I get the list in digest form, including previous messages (and their replies) in complete seems probably less necessary to me than for those who get individual messages. However, I am sure we could probably cut back on the amount of quoted material. The digest I just received, was 1477 lines long. Of those about 700 lines were "quotes" just relating to "2nd HDD [was: HD Failure and EZ-S.M.A.R.T.]" subject. That's almost 50% of the text devoted to repeating previous info. It takes time to wade through all of that. Thanks, Esmail ---- Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 26 15:23:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA15701 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13744; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:16:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:15:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13642; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:15:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ww184.netaddress.usa.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13607; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ww184.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.84 -> ww184.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:15:03 -0400 Received: (qmail 29500 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Jul 1999 19:14:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990726191440.29499.qmail@ww184.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.84 by ww184 via web-mailer(M3.2.0.53) on Mon Jul 26 19:14:40 GMT 1999 Date: 26 Jul 99 14:14:40 CDT From: Rob Bell To: "ksuttle@ibm.net" , "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: Re: [TP600E] ThinkPad Internal Modem Problems X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.2.0.53) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: Have you had this same result against a variety of other modems? If you'= ve only been trying against one (say your ISP), then the problem could be an= incompatibility between that modem type and your ThinkPad's built-in mode= m. = 56K can be a finnicky thing. For instance, perhaps your desktop is set t= o try v.90 and then x2 protocols, but the ThinkPad tries v.90 and then K56Flex.= If your ISP supports x2 only, then it looks like your desktop connects fine = at near 56K while the ThinkPad reverts back to 28.8K. This is just an examp= le. If you're getting the same connect behavior with your ThinkPad and deskto= p across several other modem connections, then it does look like a ThinkPad= modem issue and I can't offer more help. HTH, Rob ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 26 18:40:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA18384 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:40:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26702; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:37:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26359; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:37:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kepler.pa.msu.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26314; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:37:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kepler.pa.msu.edu (35.8.48.107 -> kepler.pa.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:37:44 -0400 Received: from pa.msu.edu (senna.pa.msu.edu [35.8.50.35]) by kepler.pa.msu.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA01531; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Sender: rockwell@pa.msu.edu Message-ID: <379CE391.94B500B7@pa.msu.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:39:13 -0400 From: Tom Rockwell Organization: MSUHEP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.9 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad Subject: handling multiple net configs in Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I know this isn't the best place for detailed linux discussions, but if somebody has a quick answer or can point me to some docs... Is there a set of scrpits or something that eases handling multiple system configurations for different networks. I'd atleast like to be able to easily change ip setup (fixed to dynamic). Also, changing what nfs mount are made would be nice. Do I have to roll my own scripts? TIA, TOM From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 26 18:48:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA18482 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27499; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:48:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:46:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27345; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27332; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (18.27.0.167 -> sls.lcs.mit.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:46:46 -0400 Received: from mit.edu (gummi [18.27.0.33]) by sls.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28736; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-ID: <379CE54C.DF679D7F@mit.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:46:37 -0400 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Rockwell CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: handling multiple net configs in Linux References: <379CE391.94B500B7@pa.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: That's what PCMCIA schemes are for. You change named schemes with % cardctl scheme home % cardctl scheme work You then set up your /etc/pcmcia/network.opts file to have different cases for each scheme. You can even change DNS settings, NFS mounts, etc. for each scheme. --Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Mon Jul 26 22:06:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA20193 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:06:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09354; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:05:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:04:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09254; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:04:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09227; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:04:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.14 -> dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:04:49 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA23855; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:03:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907270203.VAA23855@dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga15-18.ix.netcom.com(207.95.119.146) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma023833; Mon Jul 26 21:03:32 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Steffan Henke" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cell phones List-Unsubscribe: Steffan, Sorry, it's a 5190. Why the need for a virtual port? The phone cables to the serial port.... Allan On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:50:15 +0200 (MET DST), Steffan Henke wrote: >On Sun, 25 Jul 1999, Allan Ballard wrote: > >> My Nokia 5160 digital "cell" phone has a modem inside it. > >I don't know in particular about the 5160 but I assume it's a 1900MHz >model ? Maybe then it can be compared to the Nokia 5110 900MHz GSM >cellphones ? >The 5110 does not really have a built-in modem, e.g., you can not directly >talk to the phone via AT-commands. > >> I realize this type connection is s l o w, but methinks slow beats >> no connection. > >I have a Nokia 8110 and have set up a BIG cache and local proxy which I >fill up while on the LAN. When traveling, 9600bps is OK for email. > >> The wire connecting the phone to the serial port is 45$ US. There >> is a 'data kit' that costs $190 US. > >This is probably the Nokia Data Suite. It sets up a softmodem so you get a >virtual port to dial out and fax as well. > >> Is the cable all that is needed? The company guys don't have a >> clue. > >Again, I don't know the 5160, but you will probably need the Software AND >the cable. Have look at http://www.nokia.com or, if you are interestedt in >Linux, join us at http://multivac.fatburen.org/gnokii > >Regards, > >Steffan > > > >-- >... Our continuing mission: To seek out knowledge of C, to explore >strange UNIX commands, and to boldly code where no one has man page 4. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 03:27:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA22051 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 03:27:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22010; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 03:26:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 03:25:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21899; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 03:25:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leon.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21885; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 03:25:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leon.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (131.173.251.204 -> dia12.modem.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 03:25:36 -0400 Received: from localhost (krumeich@localhost) by leon.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02102; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:21:40 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: leon.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de: krumeich owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:21:40 +0200 (MEST) From: Alexander Krumeich Reply-To: Alexander Krumeich To: ThinkPad List cc: utcke@informatik.uni-freiburg.de Subject: Linux on ThinkPad list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi there, a few days ago, I mentioned another mailing list in a posting to this list. This other list is entirely about ThinkPads and Linux. Since then, several people have asked me how to subscribe to that list. Instead of sending mails to every single person, I will give directions on this list. So listen carefully. ;-) BTW: Remember that Bill Mair, the list maintainer, also coordinates a petition to make IBM develop drivers for the ACP (a.k.a. MWave) modems. It's not mentioned explicitly in the welcome message, but subscription is done via the usual Majordomo way. To subscribe, send email to majordomo@bm-soft.com Leave the subject line empty. The body of the message says subscribe linux-thinkpad end Enjoy that other list as well, Alexander ---cut-here--------------------------------------------------------- Welcome to the linux-thinkpad mailing list! Please save this message for future reference. Thank you. 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Bill Mair. -- Alexander Krumeich http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/ Never trust a HAL 9000 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 05:33:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA22619 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:33:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA03250; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:33:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:32:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA03137; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:32:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from personal.eunet.fi (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA03124; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:32:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from personal.eunet.fi (212.226.249.2 -> tonto.eunet.fi) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:32:18 -0400 Received: from kettu (joakim.pp.fi [193.66.77.210]) by personal.eunet.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3-KJN) with SMTP id MAA20012; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:32:09 +0300 (EET DST) From: "Jukka Ketelaars" To: "Allan Ballard" , "Steffan Henke" , Subject: RE: Cell phones Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:30:33 +0300 Message-ID: <000001bed812$aceb1110$d24d42c1@kettu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <199907270203.VAA23855@dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: > Why the need for a virtual port? The phone cables to the > serial port.... You get two virtual ports, one for data, and the other voice (TAPI stuff, I never use it). These both use the same serial port to connect to the phone. BTW, both virtual ports are visible as serial ports, this can be problematic when installing NDS (Nokia Data Suite) on a thinkpad. It took me some experimentation with the TP-configuration utility before it recognized the phone at all (under NT4). From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 08:14:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA23317 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:14:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09721; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:12:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09604; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09591; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:12:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (207.172.3.237 -> smtp4.erols.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:12:15 -0400 Received: from desktop (207-172-57-42.s42.tnt2.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.57.42]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id IAA20684 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:12:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004601bed828$fa6706e0$2a39accf@desktop> From: "Donald Malcolm MacQueen" To: Subject: $5 for the MicroWarehouse flyer Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:10:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I ordered my 560 battery and power supply from MW, but I need their flyer (the one with source code p95x20) to get the extra $25 from MW on the ps. I'll pay $5 to the person who sends it to me (soon) at 2317 N Buchanan St Arlington, VA 22207 If they'll take a copy of the flyer rebate form, my fax number is 703 696 9563. Thanks. Donald ---------------------------------------- Donald M. MacQueen Registered Smalltalk Bigot ---------------------------------------- I've tried the rest, now I use the best -- Smalltalk! ---------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Donald Malcolm MacQueen To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Saturday, July 24, 1999 4:27 PM Subject: MicroWarehouse rebate? > >>The woman at MicroWarehouse didn't >>seem to know anything about their $25 >>rebate on the AC adapter, >>even though I quoted her the >>flyer code of p95x20. >> >>She said there was only the $25 from >>IBM. Their web page for the AC26737 >>shows only the IBM rebate, which makes >>the price drop from $70 to $45. >> >>Anybody got any ideas? We're talking >>an extra $25 bucks here. Thanks. >> >>If somebody has the flyer with this >>info about the adapter, I can be faxed >>at 703 696 9563. >> >>Thanks muchly. I do so like my 560 ;-) >> >>Donald > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 12:21:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA25104 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01128; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:19:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:16:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00563; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00548; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:16:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (198.36.160.1 -> ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:16:33 -0400 Received: (qmail 11486 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 1999 16:16:29 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 11465 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jul 1999 16:16:26 -0000 Received: from dialuph164.ptld.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (207.225.88.164) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 16:16:26 -0000 Message-ID: <379DDA91.3286956@uswest.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:13:05 -0700 From: Patrick West X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: eBay item 134156351 (Ends 07/29/99, 18:37:33 PDT) - IDE ADAPTION KIT DOCK 1 2 THINKPAD 760/755765 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D886F235A1CCA140A38F2CA7" List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D886F235A1CCA140A38F2CA7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, There are several of these IDE CD adapter kits on ebay. It is stated that the "KIT INCLUDES ADAPTER AND CABLE FRU#73H8591". My question is: Does anyone know if this kit can be used to hook up other items such as one of the 360's removeable hard drives or regular internal IDE zip drive to the dock? --------------D886F235A1CCA140A38F2CA7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name="eBayISAPI.dll" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="eBayISAPI.dll" Content-Base: "http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.d ll?ViewItem&item=134156351" eBay item 134156351 (Ends 07/29/99, 18:37:33 PDT) - IDE ADAPTION KIT DOCK 1 2 THINKPAD 760/755765
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IDE ADAPTION KIT DOCK 1 2 THINKPAD 760/755765
Item #134156351
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CD ROM ADAPTER FOR IBM THINKPAD 4X CD

THIS ALLOWS YOUR CD ROM TO FIT INTO THE DOCK 1 OR 2 DOCKING STATION AND POSSIBLY OTHERS

YOU PLUG YOUR CD ROM INTO THIS UNIT, AND IT FITS INTO THE SLIMLINE PORT IN THE DOCKING STATION

ALSO CONVERTS THE CABLING TO FIT THE DOCKING STATION

KIT INCLUDES ADAPTER AND CABLE FRU#73H8591

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--------------D886F235A1CCA140A38F2CA7-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 12:44:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA25354 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:44:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03074; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:38:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:37:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02867; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02842; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (192.100.81.119 -> netcom9.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:37:35 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id JAA15807 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:37:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199907271637.JAA15807@netcom9.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: speculations, 600 vs. 770 List-Unsubscribe: I'm very happy with my 770. I like being able to use two disc drives at once and so forth. I don't mind the size since I use it mostly as a desktop replacement. The 600 is still awfully big for a portable/mobile. Right now for portable use I have a Toshiba Libretto 50ct, but I hardly ever use it. I think a Thinkpad 240(?) or Toshiba 3010 would be about the right size for travel use. I wouldn't want to take either a 770 or a 600 on a trip. Finally, I gather that the 770's keyboard is a bit better than the 600's, and that matters too. As for screen size, I don't think they could put the 13.7" SXGA display in a 600. Remember that it's the same height as the 14.1" XGA 770 screen (it's a little narrower because its aspect ratio is different). I don't really care about a PII 400. Low temperature operation is much more important to me. I like my relatively cool running PMMX/233. I do care about the screen and definitely want SXGA in my next big laptop. When the price of SXGA 770X's or 770Z's come down, I might start looking for one. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 13:10:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA25812 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:10:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05225; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:03:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05086; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:03:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05061; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:03:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from almaak.usc.edu (128.125.253.166 -> almaak.usc.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:03:17 -0400 Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-223-226.usc.edu [128.125.223.226]) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id KAA20107; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990727095125.02b84850@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:00:50 -0700 To: Paul Rubin , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: speculations, 600 vs. 770 In-Reply-To: <199907271637.JAA15807@netcom9.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:37 AM 7/27/99 -0700, you wrote: >I'm very happy with my 770. I like being able to use two disc drives >at once and so forth. I don't mind the size since I use it mostly as >a desktop replacement. The 600 is still awfully big for a >portable/mobile. Right now for portable use I have a Toshiba Libretto >50ct, but I hardly ever use it. As yourself why? Perhaps its too small? If so, you might want to re-think whether the 600 is worth carrying. :-) > I think a Thinkpad 240(?) or Toshiba >3010 would be about the right size for travel use. I wouldn't want to >take either a 770 or a 600 on a trip. Depends on your needs, of course. I prefer a smaller form factor and was quite happy with my (now defunct) 560, but since I regularly use a CD-ROM in presentations I give, the 600 is the ideal travel companion for me. > Finally, I gather that the >770's keyboard is a bit better than the 600's, and that matters too. I can't imagine that. I was an owner of one of the original 750C's and those had arguably the best "feeling" keyboard--better than most any keyboard, whether on a laptop or at a desktop. I think my 600's keyboard feel rivals that quality. >As for screen size, I don't think they could put the 13.7" SXGA >display in a 600. Remember that it's the same height as the 14.1" XGA >770 screen (it's a little narrower because its aspect ratio is >different). To my knowledge, the 600's are limited to a 13.3" XGA screen. If resolution is an issue, you are correct. Personally I wouldn't make a big issue out of XGA to SXGA--not an appreciable difference to me. >I don't really care about a PII 400. Low temperature operation is >much more important to me. I like my relatively cool running >PMMX/233. Don't know what the 770 is like, but the 600 runs remarkably cool (though I'm relaying my experience with a P-II 233 version of a 600). > I do care about the screen and definitely want SXGA >in my next big laptop. When the price of SXGA 770X's or 770Z's >come down, I might start looking for one. To each his own of course. I just note a remarkable number of 770 owners that immediately wished they could switch (or *did*) to a 600 when that model came available. The 600 did nearly everything the 770 did with considerably less weight involvement (and less $). To this day, I think the only features you are giving up by getting a 600 instead of a 770 are (1) DVD hardware decoding, (2) SXGA screen, and (3) Video in/out RCA plug. The 600 can now take a 2nd battery, or a 2nd hard drive...pretty much everything a 770 can do. And does it while shaving off something like 3 lbs. That's a *lot*. - Randy Whittle From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 14:05:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA26640 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:05:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11206; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:05:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:02:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10927; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:02:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ares.actionwebs.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10912; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ares.actionwebs.net (208.244.215.3 -> dns1.actionwebs.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:02:50 -0400 Received: from hades ([208.244.215.242]) by ares.actionwebs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA07000; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:00:19 -0500 Message-ID: <01BED838.5C876D60.mlemon@hickseq.com> From: Mark Lemon Reply-To: "mlemon@hickseq.com" To: "'Robert D. Baron'" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: selectable has ac adapter? Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:00:18 -0500 Organization: Hicks Equipment, Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Last year I bought 3 AC adapters, 2 port replicators, 3 IBM black mice, 2 keyboards, 2 17" Iiama monitors, a sling-type briefcase, and a TP600 with 128Mb RAM. One full kit is at work, the other at home, and I carry the spare adapter and mouse in the briefcase on road trips and on vacation. I carry a digital camera to record field problems/create web pages, and purchased a set of ANC-600 headphones to work with ViaVoice for dictation (cool but tiring). The 10Mbps Lynksys PC card is slow compared to 100Base, but it is a combo and connects to anyone's network with all 3 IP/IPX/NetBEUI installed. The internal modem is slow, but it's reliable and convenient. I haven't plugged in the 3.5" floppy except for the day I upgraded from Win95 to 98. All programs live on C, data lives on D. The D drive gets backed up once a week on 3 Zip disks using the faster Zip Plus external drive. A week ago my motherboard beeped out a death message on Tuesday morning, and was shipped to Memphis and back to me within 72 hours. One signature, no questions asked. You're on your way to the ultimate power vs. portable solution. Mark On Monday, July 26, 1999 8:45 AM, Robert D. Baron [SMTP:rbaron@concentric.net] wrote: > I can't tell from the picture/description: does the SelectaBase 600 port > replicator have its own ac adapter & cord, or do you have to use the > power brick & cord that come with the TP 600? > > I'm going to pick one up this week to take advantage of the rebate (also > because I think I need it). > > If it does not come with its own power cord and transformer, I'll > probably also pick up an Ultraslim 56W Adapter to carry in my travel bag > so I don't have to fool with remembering to pack & unpack the cord & > transformer on my desk....unless someone has something bad to say about > this item.... > > Thanks, > > --Bob Baron From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 14:17:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA26836 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12827; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:16:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:15:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12646; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:15:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ares.actionwebs.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12617; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:15:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ares.actionwebs.net (208.244.215.3 -> dns1.actionwebs.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:15:32 -0400 Received: from hades ([208.244.215.242]) by ares.actionwebs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA07519; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:15:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:13:09 -0500 Message-ID: <01BED83A.275A88A0.mlemon@hickseq.com> From: Mark Lemon Reply-To: "mlemon@hickseq.com" To: "'ksuttle@ibm.net'" , "'THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU'" Subject: RE: [TP600E] ThinkPad Internal Modem Problems Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:13:08 -0500 Organization: Hicks Equipment, Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Kevin, I have the same problem on the same TP running W98. I've spent hours upgrading drivers and changing settings. From what I've read here, it's just an inferior modem. Either we live with it, or get a PC card. Mark On Monday, July 26, 1999 12:57 PM, Kevin C. Suttle [SMTP:ksuttle@ibm.net] wrote: > I am running Win NT 4.0 SP4 on a ThinkPad 600E Model 2645-55U. Supposedly, > the laptop has an internal 56k v.90/x2 modem. No matter what I try, I > cannot get the ThinkPad modem to connect at any speed faster than 28.8. I > know it is not the phone line, because my desktop computer in the next room > can connect on the same line at close to 56k. > > I've downloaded the latest modem patches from the IBM web site, but still > no success. I've run the ThinkPad Modem utility and the modem is > configured for 56k (v.90/x2). I've double-checked the control panel, and > the modem is configured for 56k as well. > > Anyone with similar problems? Anyone with any solutions/suggestions? > > Thanks! > > Kevin Suttle > ksuttle@ibm.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 14:42:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA27166 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:42:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15802; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:42:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:41:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15652; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:41:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.mindspring.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15630; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:41:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from smtp4.mindspring.com (207.69.200.64 -> smtp4.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:41:12 -0400 Received: from progress (user-38lcbv0.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.47.224]) by smtp4.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA09409 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:41:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990727144307.0182e73c@mindspring.com> X-Sender: progress2000@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:43:20 -0400 To: Subject: Re: Purchasing Floppy Drive and Cable for 770Z Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I love my 770Z and would like to purchase a backup floppy drive and external cable. I want the select-a-bay model like the one that comes with it. I have had no luck purchasing it from IBM or two of their dealers that they recommend. Could someone let me know where to purchase? IBM can't recognize the number from the drive or the number from their parts drawing on the web site. Thanks for you help. Anita From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 16:34:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA28689 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:34:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26494; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:33:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:31:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26243; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26226; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:31:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com (207.69.200.32 -> smtp2.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:31:44 -0400 Received: from ms532914 (user-38lddoo.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.183.24]) by smtp2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA21584 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:31:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001001bed86f$34535ac0$18b756d1@ms532914> From: "Jean-Pierre Diebold" To: Subject: [TP770ED]: LCD display flickering Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:32:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01BED84D.ACAAAAE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BED84D.ACAAAAE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, The other night I was using my 770ED in a dark room with the brightness = sliding bar all the way to the max. I started noticing that the brightness was flickering i.e. intensity = fluctuating. I was running on a battery. Has anyone encountered this problem? Any ideas? Thank you in advance Jean-Pierre Diebold ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BED84D.ACAAAAE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all,
 
The other night I was using my 770ED in = a dark room=20 with the brightness sliding bar all the way to the max.
 
I started noticing that the brightness = was=20 flickering i.e. intensity fluctuating.  I was running on a=20 battery.
 
Has anyone encountered this = problem?  Any=20 ideas?
 
Thank you in advance
 
Jean-Pierre = Diebold
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BED84D.ACAAAAE0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 16:48:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA28841 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:48:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27842; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:45:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:45:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27755; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:45:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lima.epix.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27733; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:44:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lima.epix.net (199.224.64.56 -> lima.epix.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:45:00 -0400 Received: from mohotta (itha-125ppp93.epix.net [199.224.125.93]) by lima.epix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/1999072601/PL) with SMTP id QAA23239 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:44:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907272044.QAA23239@lima.epix.net> From: "Julian Thomas" Reply-to: jt@epix.net Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:44:47 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199907261849.NAA14485@europa.veggie.com> Subject: Re: nitpick X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 b60 List-Unsubscribe: In <199907261849.NAA14485@europa.veggie.com>, on 07/26/99 at 01:49 PM, Esmail Bonakdarian typed: >Here is a little nitpick to the list, could we please try to exercise >some restraint in the excessive quoting of previous messages? I heartily concur with this request (even though I don't get the digest). Also, please make sure that your own posting is delineated so that it doesn't appear to be part of the original quote - start it on a new line of its own, with a blank between the quote and your reply. Thanks, everyone! -- Julian Thomas: jt@epix.net http://home.epix.net/~jt Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc http://www.possi.org In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! -- -- Air conditioned environment - Do not open Windows. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 18:46:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA00324 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:46:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05022; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:19:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:17:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04719; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:17:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.wineasy.se (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04677; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.wineasy.se (195.42.198.21 -> mail.wineasy.se) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:17:32 -0400 Received: from [62.20.231.41] by mail.wineasy.se (NTMail 3.03.0018/1.at1j) with ESMTP id ha786455 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:17:25 +0200 Message-ID: <379DD187.7D7035C3@wineasy.se> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:34:31 +0200 From: Peter Wennersten Reply-To: peterw@wineasy.se X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad list Subject: trackpoint on 570 won't scroll Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I cannot get the "scroll function" or the "press tip to select function" to work for my trackpoint on a brand new TP570. Scrolling works fine when using a Microsoft USB Intellimouse. But when disconnecting the external mouse I cannot scroll by holding down the middle button (I've looked for a place where to configure the middle button but find no mention of it in Win 98 setup or in the mouse and trackpoint properties dialogs) and moving the trackpoint. Does anyone know what I have missed? Peter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 18:46:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA00329 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04996; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:19:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:17:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04702; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:17:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.wineasy.se (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04663; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:17:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.wineasy.se (195.42.198.21 -> mail.wineasy.se) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:17:27 -0400 Received: from [62.20.231.41] by mail.wineasy.se (NTMail 3.03.0018/1.at1j) with ESMTP id ga786454 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:17:20 +0200 Message-ID: <379DD109.A84948D1@wineasy.se> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:32:26 +0200 From: Peter Wennersten Reply-To: peterw@wineasy.se X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad list Subject: problem w/ trackpoint on 570: cursor drifts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, Just a week after I bought a new TP 570, the cursor has started to drift when I use the trackpoint (it continues to move slowly in a certain direction, always the same, after I stop moving the trackpoint). It does not always drift but it happens enough to be a hassle. Is there some kind of maintenance I can do in order to remedy this or do I have to give it to IBM to fix? Peter From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 19:01:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA00476 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:01:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07531; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:57:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:55:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07337; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:55:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1-alterdial.uu.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07298; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:55:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1-alterdial.uu.net (192.48.96.22 -> alterdial.UU.NET) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:55:24 -0400 Received: from mah570 by smtp1-alterdial.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: 1Cust144.tnt32.chi5.da.uu.net [208.255.50.144]) id QQgzss01382; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:44:44 GMT Message-ID: <004901bed881$2bc0f7c0$9032ffd0@mahoneychevy.com> From: "Mike Mahoney" To: , "ThinkPad list" References: <379DD109.A84948D1@wineasy.se> Subject: Re: problem w/ trackpoint on 570: cursor drifts Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:41:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I have the same problem with mine. It makes scrolling a pain when the pointer moves and pages jump. Sometimes it will drift across the entire screen and never recalibrates. The updated driver from IBM was no help. It does the same on NT. Let me know if you find a fix. This is the only problem I have had with the machine. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Wennersten To: ThinkPad list Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 10:32 AM Subject: problem w/ trackpoint on 570: cursor drifts > Hi, > > Just a week after I bought a new TP 570, the cursor has started to drift > when I use the trackpoint (it continues to move slowly in a certain > direction, always the same, after I stop moving the trackpoint). It does > not always drift but it happens enough to be a hassle. Is there some > kind of maintenance I can do in order to remedy this or do I have to > give it to IBM to fix? > > Peter > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 19:13:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA00649 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08222; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:10:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:06:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08116; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:06:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08097; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:06:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (206.127.32.35 -> tam.dorsai.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:06:35 -0400 Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (higgins@amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA09743 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:10:55 -0400 (EDT) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id TAA17358 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:10:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907272310.TAA17358@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: trackpoint on 570 won't scroll (fwd) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad list) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:10:52 -0400 (edt) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > I cannot get the "scroll function" or the "press tip to select function" > to work for my trackpoint on a brand new TP570. Scrolling works fine you'll learn to hate the press-to-select feature. When typing, I would lightly brush against the trackpoint of my Workpad Z50 causing the cursor to jump up higer in thje pag, screwing everything up. I turned it off forever. (I like the Z50, BTW) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins Broadcasting & Cable Magazine higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 21:34:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA01765 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:34:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12740; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:07:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:02:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12383; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12345; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:01:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:02:00 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-95.gate.net [199.227.20.158]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA379676; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:55:50 -0400 Message-ID: <379E46F6.1D119977@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:55:34 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jean-Pierre Diebold CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP770ED]: LCD display flickering References: <001001bed86f$34535ac0$18b756d1@ms532914> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------31373B586BB83A7FB6666328" List-Unsubscribe: --------------31373B586BB83A7FB6666328 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rapid fluctuating or slow..? if slow, might be APM related, if fast, i would look for hardware related problem.. Jean-Pierre Diebold wrote: > Hello all, The other night I was using my 770ED in a dark room with > the brightness sliding bar all the way to the max. I started noticing > that the brightness was flickering i.e. intensity fluctuating. I was > running on a battery. Has anyone encountered this problem? Any > ideas? Thank you in advance Jean-Pierre Diebold -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. --------------31373B586BB83A7FB6666328 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rapid fluctuating or slow..?
if slow, might be APM related, if fast, i would look for hardware related problem..

Jean-Pierre Diebold wrote:

  Hello all, The other night I was using my 770ED in a dark room with the brightness sliding bar all the way to the max. I started noticing that the brightness was flickering i.e. intensity fluctuating.  I was running on a battery. Has anyone encountered this problem?  Any ideas? Thank you in advance Jean-Pierre Diebold
 

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770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al...

Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a
closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home..
  --------------31373B586BB83A7FB6666328-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 21:38:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA01791 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:38:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14363; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:37:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:34:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13637; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:34:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13279; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.74 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:33:37 -0400 Received: from 770ed (user-38lcf19.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.60.41]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA00214; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:33:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990727213126.00936460@mindspring.com> X-Sender: rchalk@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:33:06 -0400 To: jt@epix.net, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Richard Chalk Subject: Re: nitpick In-Reply-To: <199907272044.QAA23239@lima.epix.net> References: <199907261849.NAA14485@europa.veggie.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: While we're at it, how about putting the reply at the top instead of the bottom, so we don't have to scroll through all the earlier stuff? Richard At 04:44 PM 7/27/99 -0400, Julian Thomas wrote: >Also, please make sure that your own posting is delineated so that it >doesn't appear to be part of the original quote - start it on a new line >of its own, with a blank between the quote and your reply. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 21:38:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA01797 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:38:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14486; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:38:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:35:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13698; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13648; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:34:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.74 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:34:49 -0400 Received: from 770ed (user-38lcf19.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.60.41]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA08325; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:34:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990727213345.0094d800@mindspring.com> X-Sender: rchalk@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:34:23 -0400 To: peterw@wineasy.se, ThinkPad list From: Richard Chalk Subject: Re: trackpoint on 570 won't scroll In-Reply-To: <379DD187.7D7035C3@wineasy.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Look on the IBM website for a thinkpad-specific trackpoint driver. Richard At 05:34 PM 7/27/99 +0200, Peter Wennersten wrote: >Hi, > >I cannot get the "scroll function" or the "press tip to select function" >to work for my trackpoint on a brand new TP570. Scrolling works fine > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 21:45:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA01833 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15523; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:44:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:43:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15391; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lima.epix.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15376; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:43:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lima.epix.net (199.224.64.56 -> lima.epix.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:43:24 -0400 Received: from mohotta (itha-125ppp35.epix.net [199.224.125.35]) by lima.epix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/1999072601/PL) with SMTP id VAA06410 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907280143.VAA06410@lima.epix.net> From: "Julian Thomas" Reply-to: jt@epix.net Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:43:17 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990727213126.00936460@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: nitpick X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 b60 List-Unsubscribe: In <4.1.19990727213126.00936460@mindspring.com>, on 07/27/99 at 09:33 PM, Richard Chalk typed: >While we're at it, how about putting the reply at the top instead of the >bottom, so we don't have to scroll through all the earlier stuff? OK if it's a simple reply, but for a long post with replies to individual sections, something like this seems to work as well as anything: > stuff what about stuff? > more stuff And your more stuff is no more help. > The key to glory is .... Thanks - that worked! -- Julian Thomas: jt@epix.net http://home.epix.net/~jt Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc http://www.possi.org In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! -- -- Stupidity is NOT a survival trait. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 21:56:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA01912 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16827; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:55:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:55:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16741; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:55:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from garnet.sover.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16728; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:55:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from garnet.sover.net (209.198.87.53 -> garnet.sover.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:55:00 -0400 Received: from MYHOSTNAME (arc1a15.bf.sover.net [209.198.80.15]) by garnet.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA08094 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:54:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907280154.VAA08094@garnet.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on garnet.sover.net) MYHOSTNAME from arc1a15.bf.sover.net [209.198.80.15] 209.198.80.15 Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:54:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:49:07 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199907271637.JAA15807@netcom9.netcom.com> Subject: Re: speculations, 600 vs. 770 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 b60 List-Unsubscribe: > The 600 is still awfully big for a portable/mobile. After having a 560 and a 600, I can state from experience that the 600 is not awfully big. It is bigger then a Libretto, but then the 600 can be used efficiently all day long as a real computer. >I don't really care about a PII 400. Low temperature operation is much >more important to me. I like my relatively cool running PMMX/233. I do a lot of multitasking and I don't find any heat problems with the 366 mhz 600, but then I don't use Windows which I guess from some messages here does have a problem (?). _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 22:41:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA02333 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:41:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19746; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:37:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:36:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19616; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:36:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19598; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (209.228.14.77 -> c004-h006.c004.sfo.cp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:36:36 -0400 Received: (cpmta 891 invoked from network); 27 Jul 1999 19:36:32 -0700 Received: from mg136-099.ricochet.net (HELO THINKPAD600) (204.179.136.99) by smtp.detayls.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 1999 19:36:32 -0700 X-Sent: 28 Jul 1999 02:36:32 GMT Message-ID: <003301bed8a2$12d89d00$6388b3cc@THINKPAD600> From: "David W. Taylor" To: , References: <199907280154.VAA08094@garnet.sover.net> Subject: Re: speculations, 600 vs. 770 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:36:59 -0700 Organization: Detayls MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: I have a 233mHz PII ThinkPad 600 and echo the same thoughts. There was a time when the "ideal" suddenly coalesced as 4 pounds. This was based on some mythical person's previous experience and has not changed in the years since then as far as the market droids are concerned. It is now half way through 1999 and a lot of technology has happened since that "ideal" was formed. The new "ideal" is 5 pounds and a slightly larger form factor. It is personified by the ThinkPad 600, which has an almost perfect 13.3 inch Active Matrix screen, a fast CPU, space for tons of memory and *most* importantly a CD-ROM that can be dismounted in favor of either a battery or a hard drive. The CD-ROM can also be used with the outboard floppy. The *only* quibble is the modem, which is built in and brain-dead in various ways depending on model. I carry my TP600 around *all* the time and it is wonderful. The superb IBM service is the clincher for me. By comparison the 700 series is *massive* and not particularly better in any way that matters. My advice is to buy a 600 and find other things to worry about! David ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 6:49 PM Subject: Re: speculations, 600 vs. 770 > > The 600 is still awfully big for a portable/mobile. > > After having a 560 and a 600, I can state from experience that the 600 is > not awfully big. It is bigger then a Libretto, but then the 600 can be > used efficiently all day long as a real computer. > > >I don't really care about a PII 400. Low temperature operation is much > >more important to me. I like my relatively cool running PMMX/233. > > I do a lot of multitasking and I don't find any heat problems with the 366 > mhz 600, but then I don't use Windows which I guess from some messages > here does have a problem (?). > > > > _____________ > letoured@sover.net > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 22:42:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA02341 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20342; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:42:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:41:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20216; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:41:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp02.mail.gol.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20191; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:41:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp02.mail.gol.com (203.216.5.12 -> smtp02.mail.gol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:41:23 -0400 Received: from tc-1-211.nagoya.gol.ne.jp (tc-1-211.nagoya.gol.ne.jp [203.216.28.211]) by smtp02.mail.gol.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E06415750; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:21:02 +0900 (JST) From: scarter@hticn.com (Stephen A. Carter) To: ThinkPad list Cc: Peter Wennersten , "Stephen A. Carter" Subject: Re: problem w/ trackpoint on 570: cursor drifts Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:19:58 +0900 Organization: High-Tech Information Center Nagoya, Ltd., Nagoya, Japan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: References: <379DD109.A84948D1@wineasy.se> In-Reply-To: <379DD109.A84948D1@wineasy.se> Lines: 16 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.35Beta [OS/2] List-Unsubscribe: In article <379DD109.A84948D1@wineasy.se>, Peter Wennersten wrote: >Just a week after I bought a new TP 570, the cursor has started to drift >when I use the trackpoint (it continues to move slowly in a certain >direction, always the same, after I stop moving the trackpoint). This is normal behavior -- the pointer is recalibrating itself. Just leave it alone and let it do its thing. If you try to move the trackpoint while it's drifting, it won't be able to recalibrate properly. -- Stephen A. Carter High-Tech Information Center Nagoya, Ltd. Nagoya, Japan PGP key ID: 0x59B4F7AD From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 23:16:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA02574 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:16:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22440; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:15:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:14:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22285; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:14:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilot023.cl.msu.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22271; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:14:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilot023.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.123 -> pilot023.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:14:25 -0400 Received: from andres (port15.annarbor01.tir.com [216.40.148.16]) by pilot023.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA64670 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:03:54 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990727230402.0091d250@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:04:02 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: problem w/ trackpoint on 570: cursor drifts In-Reply-To: References: <379DD109.A84948D1@wineasy.se> <379DD109.A84948D1@wineasy.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: This is the only downside of the trackpoint that I know of. I love them to death, but this *one* feature drives me bats at times. I think there is a builtin critical need detector that does this when least appreciated. ;-) For what its worth, once it starts it doesn't seem to get any worse or better as time goes on, at least in my experience. I have a theory which I haven't yet proved to myself that is pushing it around the screen gently causes less "calidrift" (hey, I had to name it something) than if you push really hard when moving the beast about. If anyone has any thoughts about this I'd like to hear 'em. --STeve Andre' andres@pilot.msu.edu At 09:19 AM 7/28/99 +0900, Stephen A. Carter wrote: >In article <379DD109.A84948D1@wineasy.se>, >Peter Wennersten wrote: >>Just a week after I bought a new TP 570, the cursor has started to drift >>when I use the trackpoint (it continues to move slowly in a certain >>direction, always the same, after I stop moving the trackpoint). > >This is normal behavior -- the pointer is recalibrating itself. Just >leave it alone and let it do its thing. If you try to move the >trackpoint while it's drifting, it won't be able to recalibrate >properly. > >-- >Stephen A. Carter High-Tech Information Center Nagoya, Ltd. > Nagoya, Japan > PGP key ID: 0x59B4F7AD From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 23:20:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA02603 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12744; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:02:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12367; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12343; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:01:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:01:59 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-95.gate.net [199.227.20.158]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA114662; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:49:39 -0400 Message-ID: <379E4582.CDD1F24D@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:49:22 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: progress2000@mindspring.com CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Purchasing Floppy Drive and Cable for 770Z References: <3.0.32.19990727144307.0182e73c@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: You would do better to get a 560 type external floppy (its smaller) and a 560 type cable (its cheaper) and both will fit and work fine.. and they are easier to carry than the longer cable and bigger floppy drive.. progress2000@mindspring.com wrote: > I love my 770Z and would like to purchase a backup floppy drive > and external cable. I want the select-a-bay model like the one > that comes with it. I have had no luck purchasing it from > IBM or two of their dealers that they recommend. > > Could someone let me know where to purchase? IBM can't recognize > the number from the drive or the number from their parts drawing > on the web site. > > Thanks for you help. > > Anita -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 23:35:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA02721 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23935; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:33:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:32:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23780; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23767; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (192.100.81.119 -> netcom9.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:32:14 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id UAA13221; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:32:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199907280332.UAA13221@netcom9.netcom.com> To: rwhittle@usa.net, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: speculations, 600 vs. 770 List-Unsubscribe: >The 600 is still awfully big for a portable/mobile. Right >now for portable use I have a Toshiba Libretto 50ct, but I >hardly ever use it. As yourself why? Perhaps its too small? If so, you might want to re-think whether the 600 is worth carrying. :-) I don't use the Libretto much because I just don't need a portable that often. If I did, the 600 is too big. The 560 was also too big. I liked the HP Omnibook 300 that I once had, and the new ultra-thin subnotes (Thinkpad 200, Toshiba 3010, Sony Vaio 505) are about right too. They are about 8"x10"x1", basically half the volume of a 600. Depends on your needs, of course. I prefer a smaller form factor and was quite happy with my (now defunct) 560, but since I regularly use a CD-ROM in presentations I give, the 600 is the ideal travel companion for me. I almost never need a cd-rom when travelling. A floppy, maybe, for giving someone a file without having to mess with a network setup. > Finally, I gather that the >770's keyboard is a bit better than the 600's, and that matters too. I can't imagine that. I was an owner of one of the original 750C's and those had arguably the best "feeling" keyboard--better than most any keyboard, whether on a laptop or at a desktop. I think my 600's keyboard feel rivals that quality. That does make the 600 a little more attractive. To my knowledge, the 600's are limited to a 13.3" XGA screen. If resolution is an issue, you are correct. Personally I wouldn't make a big issue out of XGA to SXGA--not an appreciable difference to me. I haven't tried SXGA yet but every increase in laptop screen resolution (CGA to VGA to SVGA to XGA) so far has made me wonder how I ever lived without it for so long. I have used SXGA desktops and they are great. Don't know what the 770 is like, but the 600 runs remarkably cool (though I'm relaying my experience with a P-II 233 version of a 600). Maybe the new mobile PII's are cooler than the old ones. I just note a remarkable number of 770 owners that immediately wished they could switch (or *did*) to a 600 when that model came available. The 600 did nearly everything the 770 did with considerably less weight involvement (and less $). To this day, I think the only features you are giving up by getting a 600 instead of a 770 are (1) DVD hardware decoding, (2) SXGA screen, and (3) Video in/out RCA plug. The 600 can now take a 2nd battery, or a 2nd hard drive...pretty much everything a 770 can do. And does it while shaving off something like 3 lbs. That's a *lot*. Yes I had some 600 envy when the 600 first came out, but am ok with the 770. I'll probably look at the 600 again at upgrade time. I got the 770 instead partly because the 600's Neomagic graphic chip was unsupported by XFree86, but Neomagic has since relented and released the specs. I probably don't care about DVD. I do care about SXGA. Saving 3 lbs would be nice but isn't vital. I think the difference is more like 1.5 lbs though. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Tue Jul 27 23:42:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA02758 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:42:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24808; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:40:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:40:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24684; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:40:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24663; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (195.174.27.3 -> home.egenet.com.tr) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:39:54 -0400 Received: from localhost (turgut@localhost) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA01815 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 06:42:09 +0400 (EET DST) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 06:42:08 +0400 (EET DST) From: Turgut Kalfaoglu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Modem for Linux? In-Reply-To: <003301bed8a2$12d89d00$6388b3cc@THINKPAD600> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone know if the TP600's internal modem is/will ever be ported to Linux? With IBM so gung ho over Linux, I'm surprised they havent yet done it themselves.. or have they? :) There are two reasons why I keep Windows 98 on my TP: Games and modem (internet). With Linux so much better for internet, I'd like to make use of it. Thanks, -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu, EgeNet Internet Services http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 28 01:09:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA03215 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 01:09:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29534; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 01:08:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 01:07:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29381; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 01:07:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out3.ibm.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29361; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 01:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out3.ibm.net (204.146.28.13 -> out3.ibm.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 01:07:23 -0400 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by out3.ibm.net (/) with ESMTP id AAA745454 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:41:05 GMT Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (slip-32-101-169-62.nj.us.ibm.net [32.101.169.62]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA25374; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:33:12 GMT Message-ID: <000b01bed890$a5f15760$3ea96520@GOSRESNJ> From: "Donald Mak" To: , "ThinkPad list" References: <379DD109.A84948D1@wineasy.se> Subject: Re: problem w/ trackpoint on 570: cursor drifts Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:32:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: Believe it or not... the Trackpoint is supposed to do that. It is 'calibrating'. It happens alot more if you tend to lean on the prackpoint a lot. Don > Hi, > > Just a week after I bought a new TP 570, the cursor has started to drift > when I use the trackpoint (it continues to move slowly in a certain > direction, always the same, after I stop moving the trackpoint). It does > not always drift but it happens enough to be a hassle. Is there some > kind of maintenance I can do in order to remedy this or do I have to > give it to IBM to fix? > > Peter > > > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 28 05:12:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA04597 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA10109; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 04:53:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 04:50:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA09972; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 04:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA09959; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 04:50:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.40 -> mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 04:50:25 -0400 Received: from 27.chicago-06-07rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.150.27]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990728084953.TADC5731@27.chicago-06-07rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:49:53 +0000 From: epbrown01@att.net (Emanuel Brown) To: Subject: Re: speculations, 600 vs. 770 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:49:18 GMT Message-ID: <379fc1a3.450055@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <199907280154.VAA08094@garnet.sover.net> <003301bed8a2$12d89d00$6388b3cc@THINKPAD600> In-Reply-To: <003301bed8a2$12d89d00$6388b3cc@THINKPAD600> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/16.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:36:59 -0700, you wrote: >There was a time when the "ideal" suddenly coalesced as 4 pounds. This = was based on some mythical person's previous experience and has not = changed in the years since then as far as the market droids are = concerned. It is now half way through 1999 and a lot of technology has = happened since that "ideal" was formed. I disagree with these. The ideal subnotebook has always been 4 lbs or less, it's true; but advances in technology have lead to the weight bar being lowered, not raised. That's why we've got the Sony 505, IBM 240, and their cousins. > >The new "ideal" is 5 pounds and a slightly larger form factor. I see the 600 as a different, reassuring trend - the idea that a full-function laptop doesn't mean weight is no longer a consideration. With the Dell Inspiron 7000 and other 10 lb behemoths gaining in popularity, I've been worried that designers would start ignoring weight in the latest models and bring back the age of luggables. It hasn't helped that some buyers are now posting comments that imply a certain machismo is associated with carrying the big boys. The popularity of the 600 to the point of scarceness proves there are still people who associate portability with power *and* light weight. epbrown Portable Computing FAQ - http://home.att.net/~epbrown01 Sony VAIO 505 info - http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/sony505.html Join the 505 Mailing List - http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/sony505 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 28 05:45:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA04721 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA16929; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:45:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:43:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA16819; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:43:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from signal.uu.se (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA16806; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:43:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from signal.uu.se (130.238.47.210 -> signserv.teknikum.uu.se) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:43:43 -0400 Received: from hactar.teknikum.uu.se (IDENT:bruce@hactar.teknikum.uu.se [130.238.47.47]) by signal.uu.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA03256; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:43:38 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:43:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Staffan Bruce X-Sender: bruce@hactar.teknikum.uu.se Reply-To: staffan.bruce@signal.uu.se To: ilh@mit.edu cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: handling multiple net configs in Linux Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hello, That sounds just great! Myself I've been playing around with scripts that I'm not too happy with. Looking into my /etc/pcmcia folder, I can't find a network.opts file. Probably I could dig out what it should look like, but perhaps you have one which is working already? If you could send me a copy (post it?) I would very much appreciate that. The TP being a laptop, the machine usually needs to work in different net environments and getting that as hazzle free as possible sounds very appealing to me! Thanks in advance! Staffan Bruce, Uppsala, Sweden ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Staffan Bruce email: staffan.bruce@signal.uu.se Signals and Systems http: www.signal.uu.se/Staff/sb/sb.html Box 528 phone: +46 (0)18 471 1078 751 20 Uppsala mobile: +46 (0)70 NOT HERE SWEDEN fax: +46 (0)18 55 5096 >That's what PCMCIA schemes are for. You change named schemes with > > % cardctl scheme home > % cardctl scheme work > >You then set up your /etc/pcmcia/network.opts file to have different >cases for each scheme. You can even change DNS settings, NFS mounts, >etc. for each scheme. > >--Lee Hetherington From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 28 08:07:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA05508 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:07:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22111; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:07:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:05:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21995; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:05:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21982; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:05:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (18.27.0.167 -> sls.lcs.mit.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:05:34 -0400 Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (hetherington.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.16.3]) by sls.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09800; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:05:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <379EF1FF.43417630@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:05:19 -0400 From: Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science, Spoken Language Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: staffan.bruce@signal.uu.se CC: ilh@mit.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: handling multiple net configs in Linux References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------16A12A7620934A24AA4A035E" List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------16A12A7620934A24AA4A035E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is a sample /etc/pcmcia/network.opts file, with two schemes defined, one for DHCP and one for hardwired settings. You can have any number of schemes. --Lee Hetherington --------------16A12A7620934A24AA4A035E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="network.opts" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="network.opts" # Network adapter configuration # # The address format is "scheme,socket,instance,hwaddr". # # Note: the "network address" here is NOT the same as the IP address. # See the Networking HOWTO. In short, the network address is the IP # address masked by the netmask. # case "$ADDRESS" in dhcp,*,*,*) IF_PORT="" BOOTP="n" DHCP="y" IPADDR="" NETMASK="" NETWORK="" BROADCAST="" GATEWAY="" DOMAIN="" SEARCH="" DNS_1="" DNS_2="" DNS_3="" MOUNTS="" IPX_FRAME="" IPX_NETNUM="" start_fn () { return; } stop_fn () { return; } ;; sls,*,*,*) IF_PORT="" BOOTP="n" DHCP="n" IPADDR="" NETMASK="255.255.0.0" NETWORK="1.2.0.0" BROADCAST="1.2.255.255" GATEWAY="1.2.0.1" DOMAIN="" SEARCH="" DNS_1="" DNS_2="" DNS_3="" MOUNTS="" IPX_FRAME="" IPX_NETNUM="" start_fn () { return; } stop_fn () { return; } ;; *,*,*,*) # Transceiver selection, for some cards -- see 'man ifport' IF_PORT="" # Use BOOTP? [y/n] BOOTP="n" # Use DHCP? [y/n] DHCP="n" # Host's IP address, netmask, network address, broadcast address IPADDR="" NETMASK="255.255.255.0" NETWORK="1.2.0.0" BROADCAST="1.2.255.255" # Gateway address for static routing GATEWAY="1.2.0.1" # Things to add to /etc/resolv.conf for this interface DOMAIN="" SEARCH="" DNS_1="" DNS_2="" DNS_3="" # NFS mounts, should be listed in /etc/fstab MOUNTS="" # For IPX interfaces, the frame type and network number IPX_FRAME="" IPX_NETNUM="" # Extra stuff to do after setting up the interface start_fn () { return; } # Extra stuff to do before shutting down the interface stop_fn () { return; } ;; esac --------------16A12A7620934A24AA4A035E-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 28 08:38:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA05717 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24118; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:36:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24016; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:36:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pike.sover.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23979; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:36:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from pike.sover.net (209.198.87.34 -> pike.sover.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:36:35 -0400 Received: from MYHOSTNAME (arc4a7.bf.sover.net [209.198.81.199]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA22964 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:36:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907281236.IAA22964@pike.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on pike.sover.net) MYHOSTNAME from arc4a7.bf.sover.net [209.198.81.199] 209.198.81.199 Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:36:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:55:00 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990727213126.00936460@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: nitpick X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 b60 List-Unsubscribe: >While we're at it, how about putting the reply at the top instead of the >bottom, so we don't have to scroll through all the earlier stuff? Lets go all the way and cut the tag lines to no more then 2 lines. _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 28 10:19:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA07010 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:19:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00666; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:18:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:16:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00301; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:16:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00284; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:15:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (200.36.38.5) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:15:46 -0400 Received: from TIPPER ([200.36.38.22] (may be forged)) by chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA00002 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:09:03 +0100 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: nitpick Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 04:52:21 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <199907280143.VAA06410@lima.epix.net> In-Reply-To: <199907280143.VAA06410@lima.epix.net> Lines: 13 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: To sum up, Please: -- text only, no HTML; -- trim quotes, including signatures; -- reply if not interspersed among the quotes should be at the top; Thank You. -- cheers Jonathan From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 28 13:20:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA08838 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14265; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:19:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:17:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13923; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13886; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:17:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (192.100.81.119 -> netcom9.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:17:04 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id JAA29596 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:46:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199907281646.JAA29596@netcom9.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: size of 600 List-Unsubscribe: I find the 600 to not only be too heavy for a real portable, but also too large. It won't fit in my backpack conveniently with my other stuff the way a 240 or Vaio 505 would. I had a 755cx for a long time and that was barely portable. A 600 is a little thinner, but is taller and wider. I really wish they'd put an XGA display in the 240. As for the 770, I don't think I'm being macho when I say I'm ok with its size. It's not like "hey I'm tough enough to handle an 8 lb portable", but rather that I just don't consider it a portable. In fact I'll differ (in a friendly way) with epbrown in that I think bringing back luggables is a fine idea. I don't like conventional desktop computers at home because they take too much of my scarce and expensive San Francisco living space. A laptop, even a big one, doesn't need any space at all when not in use. The only real weight issue is that I do tend to use my 770 while stretched out on the couch, with the 770 on my lap, so I wouldn't want it too much heavier. It wouldn't bother me much though if there was no battery since I always use AC power. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 28 13:20:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA08844 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:20:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14270; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:17:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13914; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:17:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13884; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:17:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (192.100.81.119 -> netcom9.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:17:02 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id JAA28954 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:39:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Rubin Message-Id: <199907281639.JAA28954@netcom9.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: html messages List-Unsubscribe: I agree, this HTML garbage (a whole ebay page?!) is getting to be a real pain. Is there a way to set up the mailing list software to filter out HTML attachments, or simply reject incoming messages containing them? From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 28 15:28:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA10402 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:28:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27057; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:27:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:24:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26326; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:24:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26285; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:23:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com (207.69.200.32 -> smtp2.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:23:50 -0400 Received: from progress (user-38lc4cf.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.17.143]) by smtp2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA26482 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:23:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990728152225.00688e44@mindspring.com> X-Sender: progress2000@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:22:26 -0400 To: Subject: Re: Purchasing Floppy Drive and Cable for 770Z Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Would this fit into the Selectadock III? I am now using my laptop for 95% of my work. I am thinking about the dreaded day of hard drive failure. I have been using Ghost to create an image on my D partition; however, that is no good for a bad hard drive. Ghost will only work with a bootable floppy. I had a floppy to go out on a Toshiba and got a replacement next day from Tech Support. Next day seem like a long time when I was changing things on the computer and wanted to back up. I wanted to buy a backup floppy drive to be prepared this time on the Thinkpad. I have an Adaptec 1480A and a Jazz drive. I cannot locate my book that came with the drive. I would like to be able to F1 the Thinkpad, change to PCMICA boot and change the Jazz to ID 0 and boot from the Jazz. I was not able to do that. I tried to boot to a floppy, but do not have the DOS drivers to recognize the Jazz. I have in the past kept my Ghost image on a CD and booted to the CD and restored the backup. My image is now getting too large for the CD. My 770Z is my desktop replacement. If you have a phone number to call to buy the floppy, I would appreciate your help. If you have a good parts order number for IBM, that would be useful. I got no help from the number I called from the Web. At 07:49 PM 7/27/99 -0400, you wrote: >You would do better to get a 560 type external floppy (its smaller) and >a 560 type cable (its cheaper) and both will fit and work fine.. >and they are easier to carry than the longer cable and bigger floppy >drive.. > >progress2000@mindspring.com wrote: > >> I love my 770Z and would like to purchase a backup floppy drive >> and external cable. I want the select-a-bay model like the one >> that comes with it. I have had no luck purchasing it from >> IBM or two of their dealers that they recommend. >> >> Could someone let me know where to purchase? IBM can't recognize >> the number from the drive or the number from their parts drawing >> on the web site. >> >> Thanks for you help. >> >> Anita > > > >-- >Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) >WEB page http://thinkpads.com >Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html >Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop >e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net >770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > >Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will >vary, Done on a >closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 28 15:57:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA10797 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:57:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00476; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:56:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:53:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29841; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:53:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29771; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:53:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (128.169.92.76 -> VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:53:20 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) with SMTP id PAA07433 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:53:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907281953.PAA07433@vixen.cs.utk.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: vixen.cs.utk.edu: LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [Fwd: html messages] In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:22:11 -0700. <379F5863.20DF83FE@netzero.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:53:16 -0400 From: Judi Theg Talley List-Unsubscribe: Ok, the HTML gripes are getting louder: > Subject: html messages > Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:39:41 -0700 (PDT) > From: Paul Rubin > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > I agree, this HTML garbage (a whole ebay page?!) is getting to > be a real pain. Is there a way to set up the mailing list > software to filter out HTML attachments, or simply reject > incoming messages containing them? > ________________________________________________________ > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html I wish there was an easy way to do this. We reject html'ed mail on subscription requests and we specifically state in the welcome message (like anyone reads it) that posts with html in them are subject to being dropped on the floor silently, but we've not found a good way to do this programatically. I think the best thing to do is educate each other, gently of course, in the use of HTML fluff. There are those that don't want it, those that can't deal with it, and those that don't care. Some people don't realize that sending HTML'ed mail can be rude. Some people don't realize that it is configurable to send text-only to a specified address from most every mailer I've seen, so the best thing to do is send a reminder to people who post HTML that their mailer should be configured to send text-only to the thinkpad mailing list address. If I have to write a filter to get rid of HTML posts, well, I will and you won't like it any more than I, but at the moment I have a tree on my house and I want you guys to play nice with each other while Mommy talks to the man about the roof. Judi --- Judi Theg Talley http://www.cs.utk.edu/~judi/ There are no good system administrators, merely temporarily satisfied users. --Tim Martin From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 28 17:45:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA12245 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:45:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11325; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:41:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:40:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11192; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:40:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11178; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:40:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.36 -> mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:40:40 -0400 Received: from 80.chicago-13-14rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.153.80]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990728214037.DNLA5120@80.chicago-13-14rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:40:37 +0000 From: epbrown01@att.net (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: size of 600 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:40:02 GMT Message-ID: <37a077c4.306042@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <199907281646.JAA29596@netcom9.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <199907281646.JAA29596@netcom9.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/16.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:46:50 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >As for the 770, I don't think I'm being macho when I say I'm ok with >its size. It's not like "hey I'm tough enough to handle an 8 lb >portable", but rather that I just don't consider it a portable. I forgot to qualify that statement - the remarks I've been seeing were on comp.sys.laptops rather than this list. It never comes up on the Sony 505 list I admin, oddly enough :) epbrown Portable Computing FAQ - http://home.att.net/~epbrown01 Sony VAIO 505 info - http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/sony505.html Join the 505 Mailing List - http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/sony505 From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 28 21:02:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA14434 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20434; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:55:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20267; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20251; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (207.172.3.236 -> smtp3.erols.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:55:46 -0400 Received: from desktop (207-172-113-188.s188.tnt5.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.113.188]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA29038 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:55:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000801bed95c$cd50dd40$bc71accf@desktop> From: "Donald Malcolm MacQueen" To: Subject: I'm an idiot! [Was Re: accessories from MicroWarehouse?] Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:52:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I just realizied that the AC adaptor rebate form is on the IBM website, and the form on MW is for the rebate from MW. Duh! Can anybody recommend a parallel port CD-ROM for a 560? A guy selling one one eBay said he's doing so because it wouldn't work on his 560. Donald ---------------------------------------- Donald M. MacQueen Registered Smalltalk Bigot ---------------------------------------- I've tried the rest, now I use the best -- Smalltalk! ---------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Esmail Bonakdarian To: dmacq@erols.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Friday, July 23, 1999 1:13 PM Subject: accessories from MicroWarehouse? > >> Would some kind soul please post the item numbers from the mail >> flyer for the 1) 560 battery and 2) the 560 adapter that have the >> twin $25 rebates? > >> The source code is 'p95x20' (right?), and I successfully printed the >> IBM rebate form from the website. > > >the part number for the battery is AA1520 >You've got the right source code. > > >Anyone know if the Mailer Code on the rebate form is the same as the >"Source Code"? > >Esmail >PS: Is there a special way to store the battery other than dry and cool? >---- >Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 28 22:57:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA15324 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26044; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:56:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:55:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25902; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:55:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25855; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:55:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com (207.69.200.32 -> smtp2.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:55:20 -0400 Received: from progress (user-38lcdhm.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.54.54]) by smtp2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA08340 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:55:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990728225216.018452ac@mindspring.com> X-Sender: progress2000@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:52:28 -0400 To: Subject: Re: Purchasing Floppy Drive and Cable for 770Z Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: In case something happened to the cable, I kinda wanted to get an extra cable. So far I have been using the floppy externally with the cable. I have the port replicator now. I was thinking of ordering the SelectaDock 3 while the rebate is in effect. I have two offices sixty miles apart, several desk, and home. I am so portable I usually keep four power supplies. Are you using CD-R or CD-RW? I did not want to format CD-RW with that Adaptec CD Direct software. I have had terrible luck with that. Can you use the right once CD-R for the backup using a multi disk set? Do you boot with a floppy to restore or restore from the CD that came with the computer. How do you get the Laptop to recognize the Seagate Backup CD set. Anita At 05:26 PM 7/28/99 -0400, you wrote: >I can sell you a brand new, OEM packed, 770 floppy drive for $85.00 plus >shipping. >I do not have a spare cable, but it does work in the SelectaDock 3 >UltraBay 2 >BTW, for backup I use a TEAC 6C CD-R in the SelectaDock 3, with Seagate >BackUp Exec software >In case of a total failure, I can just reload the drive from the >recovery CD, then restore everything using the CD-R drive. >AT 6X, a full backup and verify takes only around an hour! > >progress2000@mindspring.com wrote: >> >> Would this fit into the Selectadock III? I am now using my laptop for >> 95% of my work. I am thinking about the dreaded day of hard drive >> failure. I have been using Ghost to create an image on my D partition; >> however, that is no good for a bad hard drive. Ghost will only work >> with a bootable floppy. I had a floppy to go out on a Toshiba and got >> a replacement next day from Tech Support. Next day seem like a long >> time when I was changing things on the computer and wanted to back up. >> I wanted to buy a backup floppy drive to be prepared this time on the >> Thinkpad. >> >> I have an Adaptec 1480A and a Jazz drive. I cannot locate my book that >> came with the drive. I would like to be able to F1 the Thinkpad, change >> to PCMICA boot and change the Jazz to ID 0 and boot from the Jazz. I >> was not able to do that. I tried to boot to a floppy, but do not have >> the DOS drivers to recognize the Jazz. I have in the past kept my Ghost >> image on a CD and booted to the CD and restored the backup. My image >> is now getting too large for the CD. >> >> My 770Z is my desktop replacement. If you have a phone number to call >> to buy the floppy, I would appreciate your help. If you have a good >> parts order number for IBM, that would be useful. I got no help from >> the number I called from the Web. >> >> At 07:49 PM 7/27/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >You would do better to get a 560 type external floppy (its smaller) and >> >a 560 type cable (its cheaper) and both will fit and work fine.. >> >and they are easier to carry than the longer cable and bigger floppy >> >drive.. >> > >> >progress2000@mindspring.com wrote: >> > >> >> I love my 770Z and would like to purchase a backup floppy drive >> >> and external cable. I want the select-a-bay model like the one >> >> that comes with it. I have had no luck purchasing it from >> >> IBM or two of their dealers that they recommend. >> >> >> >> Could someone let me know where to purchase? IBM can't recognize >> >> the number from the drive or the number from their parts drawing >> >> on the web site. >> >> >> >> Thanks for you help. >> >> >> >> Anita >> > >> > >> > >> >-- >> >Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... >> > >> >** Bill Morrow ** :-) >> >WEB page http://thinkpads.com >> >Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html >> >Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop >> >e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net >> >770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... >> > >> >Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will >> >vary, Done on a >> >closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. >> > >> > >> > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 28 23:27:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA15587 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:27:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27814; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:26:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:26:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27726; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:26:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27712; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:26:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:26:09 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-469.gate.net [199.227.173.215]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA158638; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:26:16 -0400 Message-ID: <379FC9C6.460CCD6A@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:25:59 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: progress2000@mindspring.com CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Purchasing Floppy Drive and Cable for 770Z References: <3.0.32.19990728152225.00688e44@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Anita.. just call 800-388-7080, get parts ID, get the part numbers and order these two parts.. i have some numbers, but they may have changed.. (floppy 10H4056) i can't find my 560 cable, so i can't easily find the part number.. progress2000@mindspring.com wrote: > Would this fit into the Selectadock III? I am now using my laptop for > 95% of my work. I am thinking about the dreaded day of hard drive > failure. I have been using Ghost to create an image on my D partition; > however, that is no good for a bad hard drive. Ghost will only work > with a bootable floppy. I had a floppy to go out on a Toshiba and got > a replacement next day from Tech Support. Next day seem like a long > time when I was changing things on the computer and wanted to back up. > I wanted to buy a backup floppy drive to be prepared this time on the > Thinkpad. this floppy is an EXTERNAL floppy..win't fit IN anything.. > > > I have an Adaptec 1480A and a Jazz drive. I cannot locate my book that > came with the drive. I would like to be able to F1 the Thinkpad, change > to PCMICA boot and change the Jazz to ID 0 and boot from the Jazz. I > was not able to do that. I tried to boot to a floppy, but do not have > the DOS drivers to recognize the Jazz. I have in the past kept my Ghost > image on a CD and booted to the CD and restored the backup. My image > is now getting too large for the CD. > others may have some help for you on this one.. > My 770Z is my desktop replacement. If you have a phone number to call > to buy the floppy, I would appreciate your help. If you have a good > parts order number for IBM, that would be useful. I got no help from > the number I called from the Web. > see above for boulder parts tel # > At 07:49 PM 7/27/99 -0400, you wrote: > >You would do better to get a 560 type external floppy (its smaller) and > >a 560 type cable (its cheaper) and both will fit and work fine.. > >and they are easier to carry than the longer cable and bigger floppy > >drive.. > > > >progress2000@mindspring.com wrote: > > > >> I love my 770Z and would like to purchase a backup floppy drive > >> and external cable. I want the select-a-bay model like the one > >> that comes with it. I have had no luck purchasing it from > >> IBM or two of their dealers that they recommend. > >> > >> Could someone let me know where to purchase? IBM can't recognize > >> the number from the drive or the number from their parts drawing > >> on the web site. > >> > >> Thanks for you help. > >> > >> Anita > > > > > > > >-- > >Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) > >WEB page http://thinkpads.com > >Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > >Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop > >e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > >770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... > > > >Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will > >vary, Done on a > >closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. > > > > > > -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 28 23:39:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA15665 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:39:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28778; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:38:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:38:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28689; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:38:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28676; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.37 -> mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:38:05 -0400 Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.61.194]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990729033803.JRGL8676@dts-jl> for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 03:38:03 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990728233816.00ce2500@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:38:16 -0400 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Purchasing Floppy Drive and Cable for 770Z In-Reply-To: <379FC9C6.460CCD6A@icanect.net> References: <3.0.32.19990728152225.00688e44@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:25 PM 7/28/99 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: >i can't find my 560 cable, so i can't easily find the part number.. > Does FRU P/N 12J1711 sound right? It's the one that works with both my TP600 and one of our 560x's. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 28 23:42:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA15702 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:42:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29256; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:41:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:40:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29134; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:40:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29121; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:40:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:40:52 -0400 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA13387; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:40:45 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001301bed974$2b217800$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Donald Malcolm MacQueen" , References: <000801bed95c$cd50dd40$bc71accf@desktop> Subject: Re: I'm an idiot! [Was Re: accessories from MicroWarehouse?] Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:40:55 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > Can anybody recommend a parallel > port CD-ROM for a 560? A guy selling > one one eBay said he's doing so > because it wouldn't work on his 560. Some drives are difficult to get working with the TP560; this includes any drive with a sound card, anything from CMS enhancements, and anything you buy over the web without a solid return guarantee. - David R. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 29 00:04:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA15891 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:04:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00852; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:03:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:01:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00675; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00662; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:01:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com (207.69.200.32 -> smtp2.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:01:05 -0400 Received: from progress (user-38lcdhm.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.54.54]) by smtp2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA16091; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990728235751.0184c11c@mindspring.com> X-Sender: progress2000@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:58:04 -0400 To: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Purchasing Floppy Drive and Cable for 770Z Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I ordered the floppy from IBM by the number on the website 12J0425. That number is also on my floppy. The order taker said that I needed another number. She told me to call CDW or PC Connection. They tried to sell me a parallel port after market floppy and a LS120. My cable has P/N 83H6276 and FRU P/N 12J042. I will try again tomorrow. Maybe I will get a different salesperson. I know that I can't be the only one that has wanted a replacement floppy. At 11:38 PM 7/28/99 -0400, you wrote: >At 11:25 PM 7/28/99 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: > >>i can't find my 560 cable, so i can't easily find the part number.. >> > >Does FRU P/N 12J1711 sound right? It's the one that works with both my >TP600 and one of our 560x's. > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 29 01:28:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA16428 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:28:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04516; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:27:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:26:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04435; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:26:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cbh.com.au (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04414; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:26:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from mail.cbh.com.au (203.38.67.74) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:26:43 -0400 Received: by mail.cbh.com.au(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id 482567BD.001E343D ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:29:54 +0800 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CBH To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <482567BD.001DF6EC.00@mail.cbh.com.au> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:29:05 +0800 Subject: Fuel Guage TP390E on NT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Hi I have downloaded the fuel gauge for the TP390E running NT. It seems to be an exceptionally dumb fuel gauge compared to others I've seen. There is no documentation and it does not seem to be able to be configured to alert visually when a battery is critically low. Has anybody else on this list used the Fuel Gauge with the 390E? Is there a way to configure such features?? thanks Paul From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 29 04:30:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id EAA17575 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 04:30:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA14132; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 04:29:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 04:27:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13857; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 04:27:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from generics.co.uk (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13839; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 04:27:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 04:27:29 -0400 Received: from scigen.co.uk (scigen [194.216.44.39]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA23417 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:30:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk by scigen.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08852; Thu, 29 Jul 99 09:20:18 BST Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 9:24:33 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Judi Theg Talley Subject: Re[2]: [Fwd: html messages] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Surely it is a very simple matter indeed to strip out all HTML tags=20= leaving the text=2E Even a shell script could do this very easily=2E - Adam ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [Fwd: html messages]=20= Author: PC:Judi Theg Talley at INTERNET Date: 28/07/99 20:56 Ok, the HTML gripes are getting louder: > Subject: html messages > Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:39:41 -0700 (PDT)=20= > From: Paul Rubin > To: thinkpad@cs=2Eutk=2Eedu > > I agree, this HTML garbage (a whole ebay page?!) is getting to=20= > be a real pain=2E Is there a way to set up the mailing list > software to filter out HTML attachments, or simply reject=20= > incoming messages containing them? 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[Was Re: accessories from MicroWarehouse?] In-Reply-To: <000801bed95c$cd50dd40$bc71accf@desktop> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Donald Malcolm MacQueen wrote: > Can anybody recommend a parallel > port CD-ROM for a 560? A guy selling > one one eBay said he's doing so > because it wouldn't work on his 560. I am quite happy with a 32x Freecom CD-Rom, works on a 560E as well as the 40x Freecom CD-Rom on a 365. You may want to have a look at http://www.freecom.de Regards, Steffan -- ... Our continuing mission: To seek out knowledge of C, to explore strange UNIX commands, and to boldly code where no one has man page 4. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 29 09:29:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA18835 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:29:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29824; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:28:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:27:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29642; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:27:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from passnotes.share.org (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29628; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:27:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from passnotes.share.org (192.111.120.12 -> passnotes.share.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:27:50 -0400 Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id 862567BD.004A17C2 ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:29:17 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: "Donald Malcolm MacQueen" cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <862567BD.004A1668.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:27:14 -0500 Subject: Re: I'm an idiot! [Was Re: accessories from MicroWarehouse?] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: I've used a Microsolutions Backpack on this 560 sucessfully on DOS,Win3.x,9x,,and OS/2. I prefer using the pcmcia scsi cd tho. Rich Chong Can anybody recommend a parallel port CD-ROM for a 560? A guy selling one one eBay said he's doing so because it wouldn't work on his 560. Donald From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 29 09:39:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA18911 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:39:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00982; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:37:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:37:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00867; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:37:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00847; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vixen.cs.utk.edu (128.169.92.76 -> VIXEN.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:37:15 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by vixen.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) with SMTP id JAA13738; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907291337.JAA13738@vixen.cs.utk.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: vixen.cs.utk.edu: LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: judi@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Fwd: html messages] In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:24:34 -0000. Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:37:13 -0400 From: Judi Theg Talley List-Unsubscribe: Did I mention, I have a tree on my house? While I agree that some of it can be reduced to a simple script, I am a system's admin, mother of two, with a tree on my house. In my copious free time I will worry about this, but it seems to me to be a simple case of user ed and peer pressure. Until I can devote time to make sure I'm not killing legit posts or munging legit queries, I'm not going to rush in with a "solution." Keith has some ideas that he thinks he can implement quickly (and I trust his expertise *way* more than mine in the "munge mail" arena), but our boss is back a week early from his sabatical, and he is a bit busy at the moment. And don't call me Shirley. :) Adam Quantrill spoke thusly: > Surely it is a very simple matter indeed to strip out all HTML tags > leaving the text. Even a shell script could do this very easily. > > - Adam > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Re: [Fwd: html messages] > Author: PC:Judi Theg Talley at INTERNET > Date: 28/07/99 20:56 > > > Ok, the HTML gripes are getting louder: > > > Subject: html messages > > Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:39:41 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Paul Rubin > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > > I agree, this HTML garbage (a whole ebay page?!) is getting to > > be a real pain. Is there a way to set up the mailing list > > software to filter out HTML attachments, or simply reject > > incoming messages containing them? > > ________________________________________________________ > > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > I wish there was an easy way to do this. We reject html'ed > mail on subscription requests and we specifically state in > the welcome message (like anyone reads it) that posts with > html in them are subject to being dropped on the floor > silently, but we've not found a good way to do this > programatically. I think the best thing to do is educate > each other, gently of course, in the use of HTML fluff. There > are those that don't want it, those that can't deal with it, > and those that don't care. Some people don't realize that > sending HTML'ed mail can be rude. Some people don't realize > that it is configurable to send text-only to a specified > address from most every mailer I've seen, so the best thing > to do is send a reminder to people who post HTML that their > mailer should be configured to send text-only to the thinkpad > mailing list address. > > If I have to write a filter to get rid of HTML posts, well, > I will and you won't like it any more than I, but at the > moment I have a tree on my house and I want you guys to play > nice with each other while Mommy talks to the man about the > roof. > > Judi > --- > Judi Theg Talley > http://www.cs.utk.edu/~judi/ > > There are no good system administrators, merely > temporarily satisfied users. --Tim Martin > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > Harston http://www.generics.co.uk > Cambridge CB2 5NH > United Kingdom > Registered in England No 2081960 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Judi --- Judi Theg Talley http://www.cs.utk.edu/~judi/ There are no good system administrators, merely temporarily satisfied users. --Tim Martin From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 29 16:03:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA22690 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:03:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29082; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:58:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28795; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:58:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28715; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (207.69.200.33 -> smtp3.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:57:49 -0400 Received: from progress (user-38lcavj.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.43.243]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA31652; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990729154857.01843d34@mindspring.com> X-Sender: progress2000@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:51:20 -0400 To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net From: "Anita Brown <" Subject: Re: Purchasing Floppy Drive and Cable for 770Z Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I was lucky enough to talk to a lady that took my order with today. She said that the floppy was 82.50 and the cable was 16.50. Hopefully it will be the correct. At 12:31 AM 7/29/99 -0400, you wrote: >lET US KNOW HOW MUCH ibm CHARGES FOR THE FLOPPY > >progress2000@mindspring.com wrote: >> >> I ordered the floppy from IBM by the number on the website 12J0425. That >> number is >> also on my floppy. The order taker said that I needed another number. She >> told me to call CDW or PC Connection. They tried to sell me a parallel >> port after market floppy and a LS120. My cable has P/N 83H6276 and FRU P/N >> 12J042. >> I will try again tomorrow. Maybe I will get a different salesperson. I >> know that >> I can't be the only one that has wanted a replacement floppy. >> >> At 11:38 PM 7/28/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >At 11:25 PM 7/28/99 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: >> > >> >>i can't find my 560 cable, so i can't easily find the part number.. >> >> >> > >> >Does FRU P/N 12J1711 sound right? It's the one that works with both my >> >TP600 and one of our 560x's. >> > > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 29 16:48:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA23370 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:48:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01917; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:36:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:35:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01752; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:35:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01737; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:35:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (140.142.78.5 -> jason04.u.washington.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:35:41 -0400 Received: from dante36.u.washington.edu (williams@dante36.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.196]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA15020 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:35:38 -0700 Received: from localhost (williams@localhost) by dante36.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA53726 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:35:37 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:35:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Williams" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Purchasing Floppy Drive and Cable for 770Z Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: While we're on the topic: Is there an alternate sources for theses cables (i.e., cheaper)? Also, is there a price and part list? Thanks, John From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Thu Jul 29 23:04:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA26287 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:04:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19780; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:03:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:00:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19554; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:00:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19535; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (24.112.32.20 -> smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:00:18 -0400 Received: from mail.on.rogers.wave.ca ([24.112.32.4]:34879 "EHLO mail.on.rogers.wave.ca" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <512938-17569>; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:58:34 -0400 Received: from cr394328-a.rchrd1.on.wave.home.com ([24.112.93.189]:4791 "HELO actprod" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mail.on.rogers.wave.ca with SMTP id <324694-1993>; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:59:51 -0400 From: "Tom Trottier" Organization: ACT Productions Inc., 199-K1S 2P3, Ottawa To: Judi Theg Talley , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:59:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Fwd: html messages] Reply-to: tom@act.ca CC: judi@cs.utk.edu Priority: urgent In-reply-to: <199907291337.JAA13738@vixen.cs.utk.edu> References: Your message of Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:24:34 -0000. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-Id: <19990730025957Z324694-1993+48@mail.on.rogers.wave.ca> List-Unsubscribe: Sure it's easy, at least under UNIX. Use "sed" to strip out all the HTML tags. Or under linux, use: http://ftp.de/sunsite-mirror/utils/text/html-strip-0d1.tar.gz --- Original Message --- Date sent: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:37:13 -0400 From: Judi Theg Talley > Did I mention, I have a tree on my house? ... > And don't call me Shirley. :) > > Adam Quantrill spoke thusly: > > > Surely it is a very simple matter indeed to strip out all HTML tags > > leaving the text. Even a shell script could do this very easily. > > > > - Adam ... ------------------ From:Tom Trottier, ACT Productions Inc. __o tom@act.ca http://www.act.ca _ \< +1 613 594-4829 fax +1 613 594-8944 (*)/'(*) 199 Holmwood Ave, Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1S 2P3 "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 30 00:28:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA27236 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23663; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:27:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:27:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23576; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:27:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23563; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:27:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:27:00 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-183.gate.net [207.36.212.183]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA279584; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:27:06 -0400 Message-ID: <37A12988.5881B0CF@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:26:48 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Williams" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Purchasing Floppy Drive and Cable for 770Z References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: not likely.. check the ibm hardware pages for part numbers and, maybe, prices.. boulder parts has a web site, i think.. J. Williams wrote: > While we're on the topic: > > Is there an alternate sources for theses cables (i.e., cheaper)? > > Also, is there a price and part list? > > Thanks, John -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 30 00:37:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA27320 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:37:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24510; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:36:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24380; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:36:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24365; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:35:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:35:54 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-183.gate.net [207.36.212.183]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA344734; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:36:01 -0400 Message-ID: <37A12B9F.E97DFC10@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:35:43 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David W. Taylor" CC: letoured@sover.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: speculations, 600 vs. 770 References: <199907280154.VAA08094@garnet.sover.net> <003301bed8a2$12d89d00$6388b3cc@THINKPAD600> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Gentlemen.. the 770 will support up to TWO 14gig drives for 28gigs online (and maybe even 56gigs..!!), the 600 will support up to two 10gig (max 20gigs, and maybe 40gigs)... and, yes, there are some people who WANT that much and need it.. the 600 has crappy sound, the 770 is not exactly HiFi but its better sound.. the Mwave is marginally better than the 600 modem.. the 770 (SXGA) display is the best to date, the 600 is, well, merely great.. the 770 is more flexible, the 600 is less flexible.. the 770 is, i think, a portable desktop, the 600 is the successor to the 760 series.. personally, i think the 600 is superior and the 570 is more so for portability.. the 240 is too new.. i have not seen one.. David W. Taylor wrote: > I have a 233mHz PII ThinkPad 600 and echo the same thoughts. > > There was a time when the "ideal" suddenly coalesced as 4 pounds. This was > based on some mythical person's previous experience and has not changed in > the years since then as far as the market droids are concerned. It is now > half way through 1999 and a lot of technology has happened since that > "ideal" was formed. > > The new "ideal" is 5 pounds and a slightly larger form factor. > > It is personified by the ThinkPad 600, which has an almost perfect 13.3 inch > Active Matrix screen, a fast CPU, space for tons of memory and *most* > importantly a CD-ROM that can be dismounted in favor of either a battery or > a hard drive. The CD-ROM can also be used with the outboard floppy. > > The *only* quibble is the modem, which is built in and brain-dead in various > ways depending on model. > > I carry my TP600 around *all* the time and it is wonderful. The superb IBM > service is the clincher for me. > > By comparison the 700 series is *massive* and not particularly better in any > way that matters. > > My advice is to buy a 600 and find other things to worry about! > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 6:49 PM > Subject: Re: speculations, 600 vs. 770 > > > > The 600 is still awfully big for a portable/mobile. > > > > After having a 560 and a 600, I can state from experience that the 600 is > > not awfully big. It is bigger then a Libretto, but then the 600 can be > > used efficiently all day long as a real computer. > > > > >I don't really care about a PII 400. Low temperature operation is much > > >more important to me. I like my relatively cool running PMMX/233. > > > > I do a lot of multitasking and I don't find any heat problems with the 366 > > mhz 600, but then I don't use Windows which I guess from some messages > > here does have a problem (?). > > > > > > > > _____________ > > letoured@sover.net > > > > -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 30 00:39:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA27343 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25002; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:38:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24876; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24850; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:38:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.gate.net (198.206.134.42 -> wichita.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:38:17 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-183.gate.net [207.36.212.183]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA79946; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:38:26 -0400 Message-ID: <37A12C31.A9C9DDF6@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:38:09 -0400 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Judi Theg Talley CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [Fwd: html messages] References: <199907291337.JAA13738@vixen.cs.utk.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: OK, Adam, YOU write it.. :-) > Surely it is a very simple matter indeed to strip out all HTML tags > leaving the text. Even a shell script could do this very easily. > > - Adam Judi Theg Talley wrote: > Did I mention, I have a tree on my house? > **SNIPITY SNIP** -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al... Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done on a closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home.. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 30 01:10:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA27479 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:10:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26460; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:06:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26378; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:06:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.rdc1.bc.home.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26365; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:06:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.rdc1.bc.home.com (24.2.10.66 -> ha1.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:06:34 -0400 Received: from motive ([24.113.83.69]) by mail.rdc1.bc.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <19990730050631.VSRH27743.mail.rdc1.bc.home.com@motive> for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:06:31 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:06:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Macht Subject: 600E dvd playback problem To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: Jeff Macht Message-ID: <990729220631.423AAD5E.jamacht@motive> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Severed: The spiral of hope, and the noose of the rope, and the draw of the blade X-Mailer: Eloquent[2.02]; Eloquent is a Trademark of Take 3 List-Unsubscribe: After upgrading to the latest video drivers for this machine (Neomagic 2200 v2.06.02Q), i'm having the following problem with DVD playback: there is a single line of changing colour at the very bottom of the image during playback of certain DVDs, such as in the menu of 2001. This happens only on an external monitor or with screen expansion disabled. As you can imagine, it is really annoying. It might be the case where I didn't notice the problem until after upgrading. There was a new version of DVD Express released a couple of days ago, but that doesn't either solve or worsen this problem. If anyone else experiences the same problem, or knows how to solve it, let me know. I've got a case number with IBM about this one. Thanks, Jeff. -- Jeff Macht (jamacht@pobox.com) |"Dreams become reality when desire http://www.pobox.com/~jamacht/ | transforms them into concrete action", NeXT Mail, MIME accepted | Gus, from the film The Top of his Head. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 30 10:38:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA00581 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:38:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24968; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:36:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:35:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24736; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from silverline.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24721; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from silverline.com (38.254.90.1 -> gate.silverline.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:35:08 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by silverline.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id KAA03192 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:53:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unknown(38.254.81.136) by gate.silverline.com via smap (3.2) id xma003176; Fri, 30 Jul 99 10:53:48 -0400 From: "A Kumar" To: Subject: RE: speculations, 600 vs. 770 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:35:35 -0400 Message-ID: <000301beda98$c9383220$8851fe26@thinkpad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <37A12B9F.E97DFC10@icanect.net> List-Unsubscribe: > and, yes, there are some people who WANT that much and need it.. > the 600 has crappy sound, the 770 is not exactly HiFi but its > better sound.. The sound problem is with the crappy speakers so get a pair of decent headphones and they are equal. I have yet to find a notebook with speakers that were worth using anyway. > the Mwave is marginally better than the 600 modem.. Now I'm confused. My 600 has the IBM APC(or something that starts whit an A) modem like the 770. > the 770 (SXGA) display is the best to date, the 600 is, well, > merely great.. Yes I really wish the 600 had the display! > the 770 is more flexible, the 600 is less flexible.. True. > the 770 is, i think, a portable desktop, the 600 is the successor > to the 760 > series.. I think that the 600 is the best blend of portability and flexibility that I have found so far. I take it with me every where and except for a problem with pealing paint and the connector covers falling off(which IBM took care of) the 600 has heldup very well. Best of all I can actually use it all day unlike my friends who have those tiny Sony notebooks with keyboards that are way small. I also have a desktop that has more power and flexibility then the 770 and my Sony 200ps monitor makes any lcd dull in comparison. I have been sitting here reading about how the 770 is a desktop replacement and don't understand why anyone would replace their desktop with a computer that is less powerful and flexible. As for space their are quite a few new micro atx cases that are extremely small and can be matched with an LCD screen(and if you really want a LCD better then the 770's get the one that goes with the SGI visual station most cards have digital out options these days). If you want to occasionally use a computer in an unconventional place just buy a sub notebook. I think you will still save money over a top of the line 770. So my point is if you need a desktop get a desktop if you need a notebook get a notebook you can comfortably carry. This idea of a notebook as a desktop replacement is really backwards. Oh and I was wondering if IBM is going to give all its new computers the surface of the 570? My mom just got one(because she doesn't need a cd or floppy when traveling) and I was really put off by the new coating. From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 30 13:22:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA01962 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05364; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:21:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05180; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pike.sover.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05167; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:20:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from pike.sover.net (209.198.87.34 -> pike.sover.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:20:56 -0400 Received: from MYHOSTNAME (tempa3.bf.sover.net [207.136.202.3]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA19546 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907301720.NAA19546@pike.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on pike.sover.net) MYHOSTNAME from tempa3.bf.sover.net [207.136.202.3] 207.136.202.3 Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:51:28 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <37A12B9F.E97DFC10@icanect.net> Subject: Re: speculations, 600 vs. 770 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 b60 List-Unsubscribe: Some thoughts: >the 770 will support up to TWO 14gig drives for 28gigs online (and maybe >even 56gigs..!!), the 600 will support up to two 10gig (max 20gigs, and >maybe 40gigs)... I don't get the point. Companies I have worked for produce Cds with tons of data. I've archived a few gigs of my personal files and I certainly would not trust it to a mechanical hard drive. >the 600 >has crappy sound, the 770 is not exactly HiFi but its better sound.. the Aren't both machines "business class?" I don't see where sound quality matters. Basic capability yes, if speech recognition and navigation is important. If the need is great music quality, then maybe a laptop is not the machine to have at all. >Mwave is marginally better than the 600 modem.. I thought they were the same on the newer 600E and 770s? >the 770 (SXGA) display is the best to date, the 600 is, well, merely >great.. the 770 is more flexible, the 600 is less flexible.. Aren't there are always trade-offs, like weight that are also important? One size, one method of accomplishing work does not fit all problems, (which is also why some of us can't use Windows.) >the 770 is, i think, a portable desktop, the 600 is the successor to the >760 series.. I'm not versed in the machine details, but I think of the 600 series as a logical compromise between the lighter 5xx series and the not practicable_as_portable 7xx series. _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 30 17:23:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA04001 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22172; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:20:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21981; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:20:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21954; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:20:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.217.152 -> ah-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:20:40 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) id RAA16207 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Sender: rbell1@csc.com Received: from csc.com (h-180-117.mn.mediaone.net [209.32.180.117]) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) with ESMTP id RAA16142 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37A216E9.941981DA@csc.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:19:37 -0500 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: speculations, 600 vs. 770 References: <199907301720.NAA19546@pike.sover.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: letoured@sover.net wrote: [snip] > I'm not versed in the machine details, but I think of the 600 series as a > logical compromise between the lighter 5xx series and the > not practicable_as_portable 7xx series. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That's just closed-minded thinking. Nothing says that the 770 isn't practical as a portable for some people. I have a 770 that I carry with me back and forth from the office every day. I've also taken it on planes for out-of-town trips and it's just not a problem. Maybe the fact that my case also holds four extra hard drives, a HD adapter, the floppy drive, floppy disks, and a daytimer makes it not so critical that I save 2 pounds on the computer itself. I'm just used to it. There certainly may be pros and cons to both the 600 and the 770, and those may vary based on the user's preferences. However, it's unfair to say that it's not practical as a portable. Rob From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Fri Jul 30 17:55:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA04331 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:55:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24868; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:54:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:53:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24704; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:53:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24680; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:53:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907302153.RAA24680@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (128.95.79.96 -> tokeru.geology.washington.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:53:33 -0400 Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Sat, 29 Jul 1989 14:50:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor Kress" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:53:42 +0000 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: speculations, 600 vs. 770 List-Unsubscribe: These discussions regarding which thinkpad is best seem to me to be a bit pointless. Everybody has a different trade-off curve regarding the relative value of size, weight, speed, features, price, video memory, screen, sound, disk capacity, expandability, support, ruggedness, color....well, come to think of it everybody on this list likes black with red dots. Not only does everybody have a different trade-off curve, but at least for me, the optimal value for that curve changes weekly as new models come out, my needs change, or I happen to have a higher than normal balance in my checking account. If we were all the same, there would be only one laptop model. When choosing a model, I would recommend getting deeply in touch with your needs and the features of all candidate models at that instant in time. Sleep on it and recalculate a couple of times. If after this you have trouble deciding, then it probably means you can't go too wrong with either choice. Let's move on :). ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 31 13:19:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA10935 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:19:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17962; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:18:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:18:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17879; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:18:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17866; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (207.115.58.53 -> pimout1-ext.prodigy.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:18:07 -0400 Received: from defiant (TXARB102-07.splitrock.net [209.253.58.7]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA1075726 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:18:03 -0400 Message-ID: <000e01bedb78$91a32820$073afdd1@defiant> Reply-To: "Charles McDaniel" From: "Charles McDaniel" To: Subject: Re: [TP770ED]: LCD display flickering Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:17:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Hi All I'm new to this but here's something noticed on my laptop..(a 755cx) I work in the dark sometimes to and I noticed this samething, but mine was in the slider switch on the screen mine just needed a few good slides up and down maybe a little shot of tuner cleaner (haven't tried that yet but I'm going to) and mine cleared up but for some reason mine only did it on the battery also...maybe the drop in voltage?? anyway just my 2 cents worth Charles McDaniel Charles & Melinda McDaniel take off the nospam to e-mail me nospamcmcdaniel@cwix.com For more info on Quake and Quakeworld http://www.planetquake.com or http://www.quakeworld.net -----Original Message----- From: Paul Khoury To: Jean-Pierre Diebold Cc: ThinkPad List Date: Saturday, July 31, 1999 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [TP770ED]: LCD display flickering >On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:32:53 -0400, Jean-Pierre Diebold wrote: > >>Hello all, >> >>The other night I was using my 770ED in a dark room with the brightness sliding bar all the way to the max. >> >>I started noticing that the brightness was flickering i.e. intensity fluctuating. I was running on a battery. >> >>Has anyone encountered this problem? Any ideas? >> >On a 770ED, no, but on my 760ED, yes. I haven't seen it lately, but I have seen it before >either at extreme bright or extreme dim. And it gets so annoying when you're on the computer >for a while... > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 31 13:41:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11056 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15430; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:29:32 -0400 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14514; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:29:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:29:30 -0400 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id MAA19408 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:27:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00361; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:59:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (207.211.60.70 -> ritchie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:59:04 -0400 Received: from tp760 (p18.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.33]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA00804 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907310327.UAA00804@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 30 Jul 99 20:26:49 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP701 - Resetbat.exe utility List-Unsubscribe: I think there was a utility posted on here for resetting the battery on a 701. Ironically, with about 8GB on 6 different systems on my network, I still seem to have misplaced the files for it. If anyone still has this they could send, I'd greatly appreciate it. Regards, Paul From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 31 13:49:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11107 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15343; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:29:52 -0400 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14572; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:29:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:29:50 -0400 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id MAA19424 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:28:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00368; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (207.211.60.70 -> ritchie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:59:07 -0400 Received: from tp760 (p18.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.33]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA00950; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907310331.UAA00950@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Bill Morrow" , "Jean-Pierre Diebold" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 30 Jul 99 20:31:01 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TP770ED]: LCD display flickering List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:55:34 -0400, Bill Morrow wrote: >rapid fluctuating or slow..? >if slow, might be APM related, if fast, i would look for hardware >related problem.. > Hmmm... if software, maybe it's a problem with APM always polling and adjusting the display settings? I think in Win32, you can disable APM status polling, but I have NT on one of my drives, and NT doesn't support APM. =( From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 31 13:49:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11113 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:49:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15345; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:30:15 -0400 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14664; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:30:13 -0400 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id MAA19440 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00366; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:59:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (207.211.60.70 -> ritchie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:59:05 -0400 Received: from tp760 (p18.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.33]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA00901; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907310330.UAA00901@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Jean-Pierre Diebold" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 30 Jul 99 20:29:38 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TP770ED]: LCD display flickering List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:32:53 -0400, Jean-Pierre Diebold wrote: >Hello all, > >The other night I was using my 770ED in a dark room with the brightness sliding bar all the way to the max. > >I started noticing that the brightness was flickering i.e. intensity fluctuating. I was running on a battery. > >Has anyone encountered this problem? Any ideas? > On a 770ED, no, but on my 760ED, yes. I haven't seen it lately, but I have seen it before either at extreme bright or extreme dim. And it gets so annoying when you're on the computer for a while... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 31 13:50:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11121 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:50:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15352; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:33:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:29:12 -0400 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14484; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:29:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:29:11 -0400 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id MAA19392 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:27:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pike.sover.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23798; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 07:08:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from pike.sover.net (209.198.87.34 -> pike.sover.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 07:08:08 -0400 Received: from MYHOSTNAME (arc1a162.bf.sover.net [209.198.80.162]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA09230 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 07:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907311108.HAA09230@pike.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on pike.sover.net) MYHOSTNAME from arc1a162.bf.sover.net [209.198.80.162] 209.198.80.162 Sat, 31 Jul 1999 07:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:39:32 -0400 To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <37A216E9.941981DA@csc.com> Subject: Re: speculations, 600 vs. 770 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 b60 List-Unsubscribe: >That's just closed-minded thinking. Nothing says that the 770 isn't >practical as a portable for some people. I have a 770 that I carry with >me back and forth from the office every day. I've also taken it on >planes for out-of-town trips and it's just not a problem. Maybe the fact >that my case also holds four extra hard drives, a HD adapter, the floppy >drive, floppy disks, and a daytimer makes it not so critical that I save >2 pounds on the computer itself. I'm just used to it. Its not closed-minded thinking at all. The 770 may fit you as a carry around, but there are clearly millions who do not think so -- including IBM or they would not have made the 600 and the 5xx series. _____________ letoured@sover.net From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 31 13:51:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11129 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15443; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:34:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:30:34 -0400 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14718; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:30:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:30:31 -0400 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id MAA19457 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:28:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00370; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (207.211.60.70 -> ritchie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:59:08 -0400 Received: from tp760 (p18.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.33]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA00681 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907310323.UAA00681@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 30 Jul 99 20:22:30 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP760ED - Unable to Hibernate List-Unsubscribe: I don't know if anyone else has experianced this problem or not. On my 760, if I use my one of my original drives (17mm for the drive itself), hibernation works fine, as well as accessing the configuration utility. However, if I use one of the newer replacement parts IBM ships out (because one of my drives failed), it completely locks up while trying to hibernate or access the configuration utility. I have also noticed on these drives that they are slimmer (actual drive is 9.5mm). I've experianced the problem in OS/2 Warp 4 and NT Workstation 4, both with the most recent fixpack/service pack applied. I haven't tried 95 or 98 yet. But again, on the thicker drives, everything works fine. It's driving me nuts, because I can't hibernate now in Windows or Warp... From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 31 14:05:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA11214 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20368; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:04:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:03:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20291; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:03:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.fn.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20278; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:03:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wichita.fn.net (198.247.1.1 -> wichita.fn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:03:44 -0400 Received: from uxledkvk (fsict-tc8-08.fn.net [198.247.6.108]) by wichita.fn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA02369 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:03:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002701bedb7e$ef15d420$6c06f7c6@uxledkvk> From: "Jon W" To: Subject: Linux SUSE & IBM 770e Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:03:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01BEDB55.057E02C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BEDB55.057E02C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable anyone used this ver of Linux on their ThinkPad's ? do we need system = commander or partition magic for dual boot ? I tried calling and = e-mailing this company but to no avail. Which version of LINUX is the best ?? Can we actually get Dolby digital out of the enhance DVD decoder card = when we hook it up to home theater system ?? Some of my buddies told me = its impossible with computer DVD's Thank You Jon ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BEDB55.057E02C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BEDB55.057E02C0-- From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 31 14:09:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA11239 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:08:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20727; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:07:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:07:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20621; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:07:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20608; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.36 -> mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:07:24 -0400 Received: from ronsthinkpad ([12.77.27.236]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990731180719.FDDE10212@ronsthinkpad>; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:07:19 +0000 Message-ID: <005001bedb7f$c4215180$ec1b4d0c@ronsthinkpad> From: "Ronald Ross" To: "Ronald J. Ross" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: TP 600 - Removing & Cleaning Keys Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:08:59 -0400 Organization: RJR Consultants, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I tried to cool off my beloved ThinkPad 600 by feeding it an icy Dr. Pepper. Unfortunately the soda was indigestible. I did this a few months ago, and the keys still continue to "stick". So, now I need to clean up the mess I created. How do I remove the keys without damaging them? Any tips for cleaning sticky keys, particularly the Shift Key, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks...... Ron Ross RJR Consultants, Inc Charlotte, NC From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 31 14:40:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA11443 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:40:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22609; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:39:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22505; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:39:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-gw1.njit.edu (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22492; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:39:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-gw1.njit.edu (128.235.251.29 -> mail-gw1.njit.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:39:03 -0400 Received: from homer.njit.edu (homer.njit.edu [128.235.35.70]) by mail-gw1.njit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA06161 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:38:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from random.njit.edu by homer.njit.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA00396; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:40:05 -0400 Received: by random.njit.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA03175; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:39:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:39:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Marvin Nakayama To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: pc-card slot very hot on 770 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I have a 770 (9549-1AU), and I noticed that when I use my PC-card ethernet card (Xircom 10/100Base-TX), it is *very* hot when I take it out of the slot. I had to replace one ethernet card already, and I think it is because of the heat. Now my replacement card is failing intermittently, and again I think it is because of the heat. So my question is, is this usual for 770's? Should I send in my 770 to EZServe to look at it? Thanks. Marvin From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 31 18:30:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA13427 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00141; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:29:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:28:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29875; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29860; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.3 -> dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:28:37 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA10080 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:28:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907312228.RAA10080@dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ati-ga11-58.ix.netcom.com(207.95.118.186) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma010062; Sat Jul 31 17:28:20 1999 From: "Allan Ballard" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:29:11 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <000001bed812$aceb1110$d24d42c1@kettu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Cell phones List-Unsubscribe: Well, I have picked up a copy of the Nokia Data Suite, and may need your advice . I use a virtual port with OS/2, and no problem. It is set to com3, when there is only a serial port on com2. I use it to check Compuserve while logged on to my ISP on com2, doing other things. Does the Nokia virtual port allow for other uses concurrently? On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:30:33 +0300, Jukka Ketelaars wrote: >> Why the need for a virtual port? The phone cables to the >> serial port.... > >You get two virtual ports, one for data, and the other voice (TAPI stuff, I >never use it). These both use the same serial port to connect to the phone. > >BTW, both virtual ports are visible as serial ports, this can be problematic >when installing NDS (Nokia Data Suite) on a thinkpad. It took me some >experimentation with the TP-configuration utility before it recognized the >phone at all (under NT4). > From cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Sat Jul 31 19:51:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by martigny.ai.mit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA14134 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:51:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11147; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:51:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:50:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11043; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:50:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orpheus.amdahl.com (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11028; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orpheus.amdahl.com (159.199.101.3 -> orpheus.amdahl.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:50:14 -0400 Received: from minerva.amdahl.com (minerva.amdahl.com [129.212.33.25]) by orpheus.amdahl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA00807; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cliffy.eng.amdahl.com by minerva.amdahl.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m11Airn-0000spC; Sat, 31 Jul 99 16:48 PDT Received: from eng.amdahl.com by cliffy.eng.amdahl.com (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id QAA01987; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eng.amdahl.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA05641; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:53:13 -0700 Message-ID: <19990731165312.21402@eng.amdahl.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:53:12 -0700 From: Serenella Ciongoli To: Jon W Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux SUSE & IBM 770e References: <002701bedb7e$ef15d420$6c06f7c6@uxledkvk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <002701bedb7e$ef15d420$6c06f7c6@uxledkvk>; from Jon W on Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 01:03:02PM -0500 List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 01:03:02PM -0500, Jon W wrote: > anyone used this ver of Linux on their ThinkPad's ? do we need system > commander or partition magic for dual boot ? I tried calling and e-mailing > this company but to no avail. A word of warning if you are planning to have a dual system NT and Linux. *DO NOT* install lilo on the Master Boot Record (this is the default for RedHat installations). 4 weeks ago I did such an install, and, next time I brought up NT Disk Administrator, it wiped out the partition table on the C: drive, plus 2 entries of the partition table of a SCSI drive I had attached. The C: drive was annoying, but not terribly, as I was installing both soperating ystems anyway. On the other hand, the info on the other drive were (almost) irreplaceable. It took me 3 weeks to figure out how to rebuild the partition table. Note that I could find no warning whatsoever in the Linux or Microsoft documentation about this problem, but, courtesy of DejaNews, plenty of users having the same mishap, the earliest article dating 1996. I now boot Linux from floppy. There is a procedure to add an entry in NT boot.ini to allow adding a Linux entry to NT boot.ini, but I have not tried it yet. I will attach the procedure to this mail. > Which version of LINUX is the best ?? I have installed RedHat 6.0, and I like it. On the other hand SuSe, supposedly, has the Corel Office Suite as part of the package. RedHat seems more popular here in the States, and SuSe in Europe. I would check support for the drivers you need before making a choice. Serenella Ciongoli