From cph Mon Nov 1 01:09:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA30112 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:09:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16967; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:09:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:08:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16884; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16871; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:08:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (206.184.139.15 -> proxy4.ba.best.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:08:42 -0500 Received: from dgoldman (adsl-216-101-170-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.101.170.226]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id WAA13464 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:07:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.1.19991031220447.00d9a740@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:07:55 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Re: new HD: can only see 8gb of 10 In-Reply-To: <381D11F8.B8F346F5@iso.net> References: <199911010208.VAA14560@hpamraaa.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Andrew Webber wrote: > > I've got my new 10gig HD in the ultraslimbay and I'm playing with > > it with Partition Magic v4. > > > > No matter what I do, it reports only 8047.2MB. Is this a > > limitation of my TP600? Is there some way to get at the other 2gb? > > I don't care if it's a separate partition. IBM's site seems mute > > on this subject. I'm not clear from your message, but I believe that your problem exists because you are attempting to define a *SINGLE* partition larger than 8GB. Have you tried partitioning the drive into two partitions, neither one larger than 8GB? I believe that will work but you'll have to try it to be certain. From cph Mon Nov 1 02:28:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA30320 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:28:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19124; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:19:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:19:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19042; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:19:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from chickasaw.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19029; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:19:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from chickasaw.gate.net (198.206.134.26 -> chickasaw.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:19:27 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-178.gate.net [199.227.20.241]) by chickasaw.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA89380; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:18:49 -0500 Message-ID: <381D3F08.3152372B@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 02:19:36 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Webber CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: new HD: can only see 8gb of 10 References: <199911010208.VAA14560@hpamraaa.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Andrew.. 1. are you sure its a 10gig and not an 8gig..?? 2. have you the latest bios..?? 3. have you calculated the size 10,000,000,000 bytes into gig a bytes..?? i.e. divide by 1024 to find the real capacity..?? :-) (i know, it would be more than 8gigs, but i HAD to remind you of that little fiction) 4. what OS, how was it set up in the first place..?? and, in any event, PQM v. 4 sure should report the correct capacity.. note: there is a nagging thought just below the rather mushy surface of what passes for my brain.. :-) Andrew Webber wrote: > I've got my new 10gig HD in the ultraslimbay and I'm playing with > it with Partition Magic v4. > > No matter what I do, it reports only 8047.2MB. Is this a > limitation of my TP600? Is there some way to get at the other 2gb? > I don't care if it's a separate partition. IBM's site seems mute > on this subject. > > Thanks! > > andrew > ------ > current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: http://www.roadwarriortrading.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i just don't care.. :-) From cph Mon Nov 1 02:29:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA30328 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:29:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19361; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:22:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:21:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19288; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:21:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from chickasaw.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19275; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:21:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from chickasaw.gate.net (198.206.134.26 -> chickasaw.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:21:56 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-178.gate.net [199.227.20.241]) by chickasaw.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA161272; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:21:18 -0500 Message-ID: <381D3F9C.F417588C@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 02:22:04 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Webber CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: new HD: can only see 8gb of 10 References: <199911010208.VAA14560@hpamraaa.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: hmm.. reading further, i see more replies.. WAS it an early version of win95..?? if so, how was it that PQM reported 8gigs..?? Andrew Webber wrote: > I've got my new 10gig HD in the ultraslimbay and I'm playing with > it with Partition Magic v4. > > No matter what I do, it reports only 8047.2MB. Is this a > limitation of my TP600? Is there some way to get at the other 2gb? > I don't care if it's a separate partition. IBM's site seems mute > on this subject. > > Thanks! > > andrew > ------ > current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: http://www.roadwarriortrading.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i just don't care.. :-) From cph Mon Nov 1 02:29:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA30332 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:29:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19581; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:23:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:23:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19508; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:23:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from chickasaw.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19495; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:23:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from chickasaw.gate.net (198.206.134.26 -> chickasaw.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:23:43 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-178.gate.net [199.227.20.241]) by chickasaw.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA151318; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:22:57 -0500 Message-ID: <381D3FFF.3A41ADC1@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 02:23:43 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rat Boy CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: bios & batteries References: <19991030132054.67937.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Yes.. :-) Rat Boy wrote: > Every five three to five years I need to replace the battery on the > motherboard that keeps the time and date (and bios?) running correctly on my > old desktop. Now I have a new ThinkPad. Will I run into the same problem > with that computer overtime? > > Jimmy > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: http://www.roadwarriortrading.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i just don't care.. :-) From cph Mon Nov 1 04:32:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA30678 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 04:32:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA27471; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 04:32:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 04:30:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA27374; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 04:30:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA27361; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 04:30:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 04:30:21 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [194.216.44.43]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02516; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:30:05 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [194.216.44.36]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA28958; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:30:05 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 9:29:53 +0000 To: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, Bruce Markowitz Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re[2]: 755 Pentium model upgrade MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id EAA30679 You can use the power under Linux and display 256 colours under X though! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: 755 Pentium model upgrade Author: MIME:Bruce Markowitz at INTERNET Date: 10/30/99 9:07 PM The problem with the 755C(D) is not the processor, it is the video. These machines run great with Win 3.11, but IBM and WD never wrote a W95 video driver, and the Microsoft video driver stinks. If you take a 755CD, and switch back and forth between 16 bit color and 256 color, the difference is amazing! I think this just does not pay! Mark Gardiner wrote: > > There is a service that http://www.portables.com/ are offering whereby > they overclock the 755 P75 model for $99. > > Has anyone any experience of this or done similar? > > Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Mon Nov 1 08:26:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA31451 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:26:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13957; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:25:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:25:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13882; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:25:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13868; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:25:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:25:17 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [194.216.44.43]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04896; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:24:31 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [194.216.44.36]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA03288; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:24:29 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:24:16 +0000 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Andrew Webber" Subject: Re: IBM Microdrives available where? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id IAA31452 Interesting: that makes the 340MB drive about $500, whereas calluna's PCMCIA 340MB drive is £170 = $275. SmartMedia 32MB is approx $64 if you buy Rio devices, which is only slightly more than IBM's price. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: IBM Microdrives available where? Author: MIME:"Andrew Webber" at INTERNET Date: 11/1/99 3:53 AM Hello! I'm intrigued by IBM's Compact Flash II microdrives (170MB, 340MB) which according to their website have been shipping since June. But the website won't sell them, and the IBM store here in Ottawa can't even find them in their computer with the number from the site. I originally thought they'd be too expensive for anything non-business, but then I saw the price of 64MB CF items (I forget but it was over C$200) and suddenly the drives didn't seem so bad. The latest PC Magazine mentions a price of about U$1.50 per megabyte for the drives, vs. $5 for the regular CF cards, I think. What I'm wondering, is if they'd be practical (a) for a portable mp3 player such as the Lyra just released; and (b) for a digital camera like the Kodak "Editors Choice" in the latest PC. Or will they suck the batteries dry? Unfortunately the cameras that have slightly more appeal (the higher-grade editor's choice, and the Nikon which I've actually held) don't use CF. Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks! andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Mon Nov 1 09:26:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA31684 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:26:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18536; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:25:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:24:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18416; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:24:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18399; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (192.134.240.50 -> uhbhic.uhb.fr) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:24:54 -0500 Received: from tp-770 (cb1341.uhb.fr [192.134.240.30]) by uhbhic.uhb.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with SMTP id PAA24756 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:24:50 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <381DA4B4.1FB7@uhb.fr> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 15:33:24 +0100 From: Sylvestre Meininger X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: IBM Microdrive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Outpost sells them... For $500. As it was stated earlier here, this is definitely steep... From cph Mon Nov 1 10:57:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA32105 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:57:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25042; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:55:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:54:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24914; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:54:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.panix.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24869; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:53:57 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mail1.panix.com (166.84.0.212 -> mail1.panix.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:53:57 -0500 Received: from mailhost.panix.com (broccole.dialup.access.net [166.84.249.114]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 28F8430EF4 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:53:53 -0500 (EST) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer for OS/2 (Green Edition Ver 3.0) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:37:55 Subject: trackpoint stuck - fu questions Message-Id: <19991101155353.28F8430EF4@mail1.panix.com> List-Unsubscribe: Hi, A couple of days ago I wrote about a 560E with a trackpoint that goes only N-S. After hearing from a couple of people that this is not a big problem (worst case replace the keyboard) I decided to buy the unit. OK, looking at the IBM support site the first line of advice for this error ("8611") is to reseat the keyboard connector to the motherboard. This sounds good to me, but I've not taken a TP apart before. I'm sure several of you have extensive experience under-the-hood. Are there any gotcha's I should be aware of before pulling screws? Second, if it happens I need another keyboard are there any suggestions as to where to go? Is it possible to buy a replacement from IBM? Should I have them or someone else install the thing? Words of wisdom, tales of woe are all much appreciated. Michael broccole@panix.com Michael Cole broccole@panix.com From cph Mon Nov 1 12:06:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA32488 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:06:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01311; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:05:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:04:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01084; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:04:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01039; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:03:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:03:59 -0500 Received: from mmax2.vramp.net (mmax2.vramp.net [198.138.8.65]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA09395; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:58:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911011658.LAA09395@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: Mark Bell , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:55:33 -0500 Subject: Re: Li-Ion Batteries Reply-to: captjhem@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.19991031211746.01272620@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> References: <199910312310.SAA15686@water.vramp.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) List-Unsubscribe: On 31 Oct 99, at 21:17, Mark Bell wrote: > You have to realize that used machines have been moved/used, and the contacts > can become bent or weakened inside. On used batteries, I saw dirty contacts > too, so I thought the internal contacts could have been dirty too. What did I > use to clean 'em? Heh, at the time I grabbed the nearest, old school solution > I could.......a pencil eraser. :) Thanks Mark, I'm also a firm believer in the efficacy of the "universal burnishing tool". I should have stated in my inital post that I've cleaned all the contacts as best as possible and still get no response from the charging circuit other than the random flashing. I've had the unit on charge for 2 days now, both on and off, with no better result. Guess I'll just have to await the arrival of the quick charger I won last week on eBay. That's "supposed" to work with these batteries and should wake them up. Worst case scenario is I'll ship them to my daughter in Boston and let her use them in her 760XL. Regards, James From cph Mon Nov 1 12:11:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA32510 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:11:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01793; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:09:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:09:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01686; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:09:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from onondaga.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01663; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:09:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from onondaga.gate.net (198.206.134.31 -> onondaga.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:09:42 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-261.gate.net [199.227.131.70]) by onondaga.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA341234; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:04:13 -0500 Message-ID: <381DC95E.E08F7B3A@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 12:09:51 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: broccole@panix.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: trackpoint stuck - fu questions References: <19991101155353.28F8430EF4@mail1.panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I had a 560 totally naked.. parts all OVER the place.. the keyboard is the easiest.. to reseat the connector (chance that this IS the problem is slim) you must remove the keyboard.. i won't walk you through it in detail, just go to thinkpads.com and then the HDD upgrade page.. i have instructions for the 560 for replacing the HDD.. removal of the kbd is the first step.. :-) (stop then, don't pull the HDD) one word of warning.. tape the latch mechanism so that when/if you accidentally touch it while the kbd is in surgery, it does not fly across the room, in several capricious directions... (this is why mechanics call those horseshoe shaped clips on cars "Jesus clips".. when they 'pop' off, they fly away to the tune of "Oh Jesus!!"... :-) [with apologies to to any who might be offended..] buy the kbd from IBM boulder parts.. 800-388-7080 if it is required.. broccole@panix.com wrote: > Hi, > > A couple of days ago I wrote about a 560E with a trackpoint that goes only > N-S. After hearing from a couple of people that this is not a big problem > (worst case replace the keyboard) I decided to buy the unit. > > OK, looking at the IBM support site the first line of advice for this error > ("8611") is to reseat the keyboard connector to the motherboard. This sounds > good to me, but I've not taken a TP apart before. I'm sure several of you > have extensive experience under-the-hood. Are there any gotcha's I should be > aware of before pulling screws? > > Second, if it happens I need another keyboard are there any suggestions as > to where to go? Is it possible to buy a replacement from IBM? Should I have > them or someone else install the thing? > > Words of wisdom, tales of woe are all much appreciated. > > Michael > > broccole@panix.com > > Michael Cole > broccole@panix.com -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: http://www.roadwarriortrading.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i just don't care.. :-) From cph Mon Nov 1 16:17:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA02283 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:17:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26188; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:16:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:15:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26092; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:15:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from passnotes.share.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26079; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:15:38 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from passnotes.share.org (192.111.120.12 -> passnotes.share.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:15:38 -0500 Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id 8625681C.007519FE ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:19:03 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SHARE INC To: "Andrew Webber" cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Message-ID: <8625681C.0075180F.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:15:46 -0600 Subject: Re: new HD: can only see 8gb of 10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Andrew, To see if it is indeed a BIOS limitation. Create a Partition Magic Standalone boot diskette. Or just run PARTINFO after booting to a DOS prompt. If it still only reports 8GB of space then it's a BIOS hardware limitation, and you'll need something like Disk Manager (mangler ;-) in the boot sector, to fool any OS into the >8GB availability. I believe that the powerquest web site does document and explain the different disk-size Wintel speed-bumps. Good Luck Rich I've got my new 10gig HD in the ultraslimbay and I'm playing with it with Partition Magic v4. No matter what I do, it reports only 8047.2MB. Is this a limitation of my TP600? Is there some way to get at the other 2gb? I don't care if it's a separate partition. IBM's site seems mute on this subject. Thanks! andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Mon Nov 1 18:49:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA03835 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:49:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10116; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:48:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:48:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09996; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:48:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09981; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:47:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:47:45 -0500 Received: from 63.new-york-16-17rs.ny.dial-access.att.net ([12.79.0.63]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991101234744.DFNT20426@63.new-york-16-17rs.ny.dial-access.att.net> for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 23:47:44 +0000 From: r.lawrence@worldnet.att.net (Robert Lawrence) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Problem subscribing via THINKPAD-REQUEST@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 23:47:38 GMT Message-ID: <3822257b.28543152@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id SAA03836 I recently unsubscribed to this mailing list before going on a trip. When I tried to re-subscribe by sending email to THINKPAD-REQUEST@CS.UTK.EDU, I repeatedly got my emails returned with the message "The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ". Sorry for bothering the whole list about this, but can anyone tell me how to re-subscribe to the list? Robert Lawrence From cph Mon Nov 1 20:13:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA04449 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:13:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15642; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:10:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:09:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15517; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:09:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from benvolio.ecse.rpi.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15499; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:09:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from benvolio.ecse.rpi.edu (128.113.61.53 -> benvolio.ecse.rpi.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:09:24 -0500 Received: from ecse.rpi.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by benvolio.ecse.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA04335 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:09:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199911020109.UAA04335@benvolio.ecse.rpi.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: connecting disk to external diskette port From: wrfl+tp@mab.ecse.rpi.edu (Wm. Randolph Franklin) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 20:09:20 -0500 Sender: wrf@ecse.rpi.edu List-Unsubscribe: I have an IBM TP 600 notebook. I also have an unused 5GB 3/4 inch high hard drive, which I'd like to connect to my notebook. My 600 has a port for an external diskette (floppy) or CDROM drive. How fast is this port? I'm hoping that it might be faster than the USB port or using a PC Card. I'm also hoping that this would be more OS-independent, since I mostly use Linux. Can I somehow connect my 5GB drive to this port? The drive is too hi to fit in the enclosure that the diskette or CDROM drive would slide into. Where would I get an appropriate holder? I've browsed all the relevant web sites I can find w/o success. Thanks for your help. ------------------------ Wm. Randolph Franklin Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (PGP key available) From cph Mon Nov 1 22:52:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA05366 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:52:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26026; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:51:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:49:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25875; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from grace.speakeasy.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25862; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:49:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from grace.speakeasy.org (216.231.41.3 -> grace.speakeasy.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:49:38 -0500 Received: from 770z (02-094.011.popsite.net [216.126.168.94]) by grace.speakeasy.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA05671; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 19:49:15 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Richard Chalk" To: "Robert Lawrence" , Subject: RE: Problem subscribing via THINKPAD-REQUEST@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:48:20 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3822257b.28543152@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Try using lower case... -----Original Message----- From: Robert Lawrence [mailto:r.lawrence@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 6:48 PM To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Problem subscribing via THINKPAD-REQUEST@CS.UTK.EDU I recently unsubscribed to this mailing list before going on a trip. When I tried to re-subscribe by sending email to THINKPAD-REQUEST@CS.UTK.EDU, I repeatedly got my emails returned with the message "The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ". Sorry for bothering the whole list about this, but can anyone tell me how to re-subscribe to the list? Robert Lawrence From cph Mon Nov 1 22:55:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA05381 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:55:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26221; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:54:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:54:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26138; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:54:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26125; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:54:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:54:06 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA02084; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 17:54:00 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <009201bf24e5$d7313420$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: , "Wm. Randolph Franklin" References: <199911020109.UAA04335@benvolio.ecse.rpi.edu> Subject: Re: connecting disk to external diskette port Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 17:53:35 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > I have an IBM TP 600 notebook. I also have an unused 5GB 3/4 inch > high hard drive, which I'd like to connect to my notebook. My 600 > has a port for an external diskette (floppy) or CDROM drive. > > How fast is this port? I'm hoping that it might be faster than > the USB port or using a PC Card. I think it is parallel port speed, which is slower than PC card. > I'm also hoping that this would > be more OS-independent, since I mostly use Linux. You can buy a PC-card IDE drive case for around $100; mine is recognized instantly by recent builds of Linux with the PCMCIA package, though so far I haven't figured out if I can make it bootable in Linux on my 560. - David R. From cph Mon Nov 1 23:45:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA05552 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 23:45:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02888; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 23:44:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 23:43:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02813; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 23:43:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02799; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 23:43:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (195.174.27.3 -> home.egenet.com.tr) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 23:43:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (turgut@localhost) by http://www.egenet.com.tr home.egenet.com.tr (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA10943 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 06:46:18 +0300 (EET) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 06:46:17 +0300 (EET) From: Turgut Kalfaoglu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Warpcast info In-Reply-To: <19991101155353.28F8430EF4@mail1.panix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Someone on this list had asked for information on Warpcast (an email newsletter and a thorough web site on OS/2 issues): It's at http://www.warpcast.com It will email you whenever a new announcement is being made in the OS/2 world (typically, about 5-10 messages a day). Regards, -turgut ----- Turgut Kalfaoglu, EgeNet Internet Services http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr From cph Tue Nov 2 04:10:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA06191 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:10:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA18327; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:10:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:09:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA18233; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:09:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA18220; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:09:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (206.184.139.15 -> proxy4.ba.best.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:09:01 -0500 Received: from dgoldman (adsl-216-101-170-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.101.170.226]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id BAA26315 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 01:08:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.1.19991102010150.00d858a0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1 Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 01:09:41 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: TP 380Z - Problems after installing NT SP4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: When I purchased my TP 380Z, it came pre-loaded with NT Workstation 4 and Service Pack 3. Because of other reasons, I downloaded and installed Service Pack 4 this evening. Even though the service pack installed just fine, after rebooting I get errors indicating that *ALL* of the following failed to load during boot-up: PCCard Platform resman SSCrdBus SSI365 Further (as might be expected by the above problem) the system no longer recognizes the Xircom Modem/LAN PCMCIA adapter. Finally, after un-installing SP 4, the problems all go away and the system goes back to working properly. Does anybody have any hints what I might have done wrong (or what I should do differently to get SP4 loaded on my system without the problems shown above)? Thanks in advance. -- David Goldman From cph Tue Nov 2 04:33:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA06257 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:33:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19218; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:33:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:32:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19146; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:32:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19127; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:32:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:32:48 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [194.216.44.43]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12120 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:32:45 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [194.216.44.36]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA14813 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:32:44 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 9:32:37 +0000 Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re[2]: 755CX Screen cable 84G6457 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id EAA06258 Havind taken the screen off my 755C I found that the connectors, although superficially looking the same, have different pin-outs. So that won't work. The lack of availability of spares is doubly frustrating as (1) the cable unplugs at the screen end as well and (2) there is an IBM part number on the cable, 84G6457. So I have bared the ends of the break in the cable to allow me to buzz it out. The cable pitch is very fine - finer than the smallest surface mount I can reliably solder, so fixing the cable looks iffy, but worth a try. My other option (unless I can source a spare) is to make another cable. The ends look like standard connectors, it should just be a matter of joining them up with some fine-pitch ribbon cable, once I've worked out the pinouts. In the meantime, any suggestions for thinkpad 'scrapyard' merchants who might be worth trying for this cable would be welcome. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: 750CX Screen cable Author: MIME:Bill Morrow at INTERNET Date: 10/27/99 4:58 PM Adam.. Adam Quantrill wrote: > I've just got hold of a 755CX with a busted screen cable. > > I have a 755C that is getting a bit old in the tooth, though will still cut the mustard as a standalone screenless (or external monitor) linux box as a firewall or some such. The battery is knackered, so I'd prefer to use the 755CX from n w on when mobile. > > So, my options are: > > 1) Fix the screen cable. THis means a session with a soldering iron and a scalpel and a load of potting compound. But it will be a pain to do and may be unreliable. > depending on the reason for the 'damage' it MIGHT be repairable, but unless it is near one of the plug or socket ends i doubt any repair would hold.. repairing the cable itself is, IMO, impossible.. > > 2) Can I use my 755C screen on the 755CX - the connectors look roughly the same? > maybe, depending on the display.. > > 3) can I get a cable from IBM (unlikely), or is the other end soldered down? > no, no cable. they sell this stuff by the entire assembly.. look around and see if there is a busted display machine available any place.. > > - Adam > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > Harston http://www.generics.co.uk > Cambridge CB2 5NH > United Kingdom > Registered in England No 2081960 > ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: http://www.roadwarriortrading.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i just don't care.. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Tue Nov 2 06:55:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA06750 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 06:55:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA03884; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 06:55:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 06:53:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA03745; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 06:53:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA03723; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 06:53:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 06:53:22 -0500 Received: from thinkpad1721i (user-33qt814.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.160.36]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA09937; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 06:52:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <007401bf2528$b6f9b180$da00fea9@thinkpad1721i> From: "Chuck S." To: "Bill Morrow" , "Guy Pelchat" Cc: , , References: <3819BC92.BFEE899A@icanect.net> Subject: Re: Using Partition Magic 4.0 Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 05:51:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Bill, A little known fact is that adding a 2nd drive will not change drive letters of the first drive if you do not make the 2nd drive a bootable drive. There are several advantages of having multiple partitions on a drive. For WinNT, make c: a 2 GB FAT-16 file system so you can boot your TP from a DOS diskette to troubleshoot files on c: if you cannot boot-up from your hard drive. Make your 2nd partition NTFS. For Win98, make c: FAT-16 and your 2nd partition FAT-32. Multiple partitions will also help you organize your data to prevent disk fragmentation and will allow you to more easily do selective backups. And you can resize the partitions with Partition Magic if you need to. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morrow To: Guy Pelchat Cc: ; ; Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 9:26 AM Subject: Re: Using Partition Magic 4.0 | the main advantage is the drive letters don't change when you add a 2nd | HDD (that is a bootable drive, as most are) to the ultrabay.. | | Guy Pelchat wrote: | | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: | > To: | > Cc: | > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 7:29 AM | > Subject: Using Partition Magic 4.0 | > | > > I recently coverted my 770X 8.1GB HDD to FAT 32 | > > using Windows 98's Fat convertor utility. When I asked | > > about this, Bill Morrow and others suggested also using | > > Partition Magic 4.0 to change the 2 partitions to just one | > > 8.1GB partition. | > | > What are the advantages of one large partition over two smaller ones? | > | > Guy | | -- | Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... | | ** Bill Morrow ** :-) | WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: | http://www.roadwarriortrading.com | Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html | Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster | http://www.roadwarriortrading.com | e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net | | use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, | any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills | or i just don't care.. :-) | | | From cph Tue Nov 2 10:07:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA07580 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:07:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22146; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:06:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:05:54 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22052; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:05:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:05:53 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id JAA18107 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:58:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA21868; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:31:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.206.132 -> dh-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:31:51 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) id VAA28577 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:31:50 -0500 (EST) Sender: rbell1@netscape.net Received: from netscape.net (h-181-41.mn.mediaone.net [209.32.181.41]) by hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) with ESMTP id VAA28555; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:31:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <381E4C9C.6C377182@netscape.net> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 20:29:48 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Lawrence CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Problem subscribing via THINKPAD-REQUEST@CS.UTK.EDU References: <3822257b.28543152@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Perhaps try the address in all small letters: 'thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu' (if you didn't already). Some mail systems (which are often run on UNIX) are case-sensitive. HTH, Rob Robert Lawrence wrote: > I recently unsubscribed to this mailing list before going on a trip. > > When I tried to re-subscribe by sending email to > THINKPAD-REQUEST@CS.UTK.EDU, I repeatedly got my emails returned with > the message "The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > ". > > Sorry for bothering the whole list about this, but can anyone tell me > how to re-subscribe to the list? > > Robert Lawrence From cph Tue Nov 2 10:08:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA07585 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:08:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22314; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:07:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:07:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22214; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:07:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from castle.shownets.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22200; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:07:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from castle.shownets.net (209.117.163.253 -> castle.shownets.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:07:01 -0500 Received: (qmail 98689 invoked from network); 2 Nov 1999 15:06:58 -0000 Received: from client60221.speedfactory.net (HELO buechner) (216.0.60.221) by castle.shownets.net with SMTP; 2 Nov 1999 15:06:58 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991102100157.0099bab0@mail.shownets.net> X-Sender: dbuechn@mail.shownets.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 10:06:58 -0500 To: " " , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Buechner Subject: Re: IBM Thinkpad 390 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: I've had two 390Es for several months and have been extremely happy with them. One is a D0U (64Meg/4.3Gig/300MhZ) the other is a E0U (64Meg/6.4Gig/333Mhz). Both processors are PII, both have the 14.1" Active Matrix and 24x CD-ROM. The only IBM quirk I've found with these machines is that hibernating to a FAT32 partition seems to be supported until you have trouble. :-) The symptom on my machine was that it just quit hibernating one day. I fixed the problem by carving out a 100Meg partition just for the hibernation file. The other quirks are the usual Win98 kind of problems I've had on every machine I've owned. The E0U runs FreeBSD as well as Win98 and does so very well. Good luck with your new machine if you get it! David At 12:24 PM 10/30/99 -0800, wrote: >Hi, >I am considering to buy this machine and I would like to hear your >comments about it. > >Is the quality of it as high as the other (more expensive) thinkpads? > >And then another question, I recently saw an used Thinkpad P75 with 24mb >RAM, 540mb HD, a small TFT screen but no sound or CD-ROM and was wondering >what model it might have been? > > >--== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- >Share what you know. Learn what you don't. From cph Tue Nov 2 10:27:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA07737 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:27:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23864; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:25:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:23:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23617; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:23:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from osage.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23602; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:23:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from osage.gate.net (198.206.134.25 -> osage.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:23:45 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-321.gate.net [199.227.131.130]) by osage.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA165910; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:22:29 -0500 Message-ID: <381F01D4.C9FCAD58@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 10:23:00 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Quantrill CC: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: 755CX Screen cable 84G6457 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Adam.. you can TRY to call Index Computer Remarketing in Ft. Lauderdale.. they have an 800 number and local numbers as well.. the last time i was there, there were MANY Many thinkpads sitting on shelves in various states of disaster.. but also note that Ed and Jorge (if memory is working this morning) are not in business for their health.. :-) Adam Quantrill wrote: > Havind taken the screen off my 755C I found that the connectors, although superficially looking the same, have different pin-outs. So that won't work. The lack of availability of spares is doubly frustrating as (1) the cable unplugs at the screen end as well and (2) there is an IBM part number on the cable, 84G6457. > > So I have bared the ends of the break in the cable to allow me to buzz it out. The cable pitch is very fine - finer than the smallest surface mount I can reliably solder, so fixing the cable looks iffy, but worth a try. My other option (unless I can source a spare) is to make another cable. The ends look like standard connectors, it should just be a matter of joining them up with some fine-pitch ribbon cable, once I've worked out the pinouts. > > In the meantime, any suggestions for thinkpad 'scrapyard' merchants who might be worth trying for this cable would be welcome. > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Re: 750CX Screen cable > Author: MIME:Bill Morrow at INTERNET > Date: 10/27/99 4:58 PM > > Adam.. > > Adam Quantrill wrote: > > > I've just got hold of a 755CX with a busted screen cable. > > > I have a 755C that is getting a bit old in the tooth, though will still cut the mustard as a standalone screenless (or external monitor) linux box as a firewall or some such. The battery is knackered, so I'd prefer to use the 755CX from n > w on when mobile. > > > > So, my options are: > > > > 1) Fix the screen cable. THis means a session with a soldering iron and a scalpel and a load of potting compound. But it will be a pain to do and may be unreliable. > > > > depending on the reason for the 'damage' it MIGHT be repairable, but unless it is near one of the plug or socket ends i doubt any repair would hold.. repairing the cable itself is, IMO, impossible.. > > > > > 2) Can I use my 755C screen on the 755CX - the connectors look roughly the same? > > > > maybe, depending on the display.. > > > > > 3) can I get a cable from IBM (unlikely), or is the other end soldered down? > > > no, no cable. they sell this stuff by the entire assembly.. > look around and see if there is a busted display machine available any place.. > > > > > - Adam > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > > Harston http://www.generics.co.uk > Cambridge CB2 5NH > > United Kingdom > > Registered in England No 2081960 > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: http://www.roadwarriortrading.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, > any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i just don't care.. :-) > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > Harston http://www.generics.co.uk > Cambridge CB2 5NH > United Kingdom > Registered in England No 2081960 > ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: http://www.roadwarriortrading.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i just don't care.. :-) From cph Tue Nov 2 11:03:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA07988 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:03:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26789; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:01:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:00:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26691; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:00:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from trmail.triumf.ca (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26676; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:00:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from trmail.triumf.ca (142.90.100.150 -> trmail.Triumf.CA) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:00:47 -0500 Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA [142.90.120.3]) by trmail.triumf.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA18841; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 08:00:44 -0800 Message-ID: <00a001bf254c$bc1fb500$03785a8e@pmachule> From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: Cc: References: <38190C57.717AB771@iso.net> <01fd01bf2235$2e8a7460$03785a8e@pmachule> <381E1477.F1895676@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 730T Info please Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 08:10:08 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: I have a couple of these ;-} What is the going price now ? Regarding the floppy, the best source by far is BG micro which is/was selling an Dell external for under $20. The cable must be replaced with the proper cable from IBM but the drive is an OEM equivalent to the IBM drive . RamBoost is IBM's version of memmaker . It fiddles with your config.sys and autoexec.bat contents to make more room. I believe IBM's standard DOS 7 only had a subset of the Pen extensions. If you have access to IBM's Pen Dos, that would be very interesting . I'm also looking for a pen tip , one of mine is gone . Also http://www.onsale.com was/is selling a PCMCIA desktop adapter . It makes playing with the 105MB HD a lot easier from a file transfer / install viewpoint . Price has been $20 ish . ..peter... ----- Original Message ----- From: Frank Janik To: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 2:30 PM Subject: Re: Thinkpad 730T Info please > Hello Peter > Uncle Frank Here, I Am Also Getting A IBM 730T. So Far I > Have Located A OS. It Is In IBM PC DOS 7, It Is A Option Called PenDos. > It Appears That You Do A Standard PC DOS INSTALL, Run The RamBOOST, > ( Witch I Believe Is A Fancy Name For EMM386.. Then Go Back And > Install PenDos Using A Switch In The IBM PC DOS 7. I Also Have A > IBM External 3.5 Drive Coming. Hopefully I Can Use This To Load The OS > on The Massive 105meg DRIVE. > > I Am Boating In Uncharted WATERS > Uncle Frank > > peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP wrote: > > > > http://www.ideasign.com/bobz/tp730T.htm > > > > http://www.ibm.com/search/?v=9&q=2524&x=9&y=9 > > > > http://xcom.stores.yahoo.com/xcom/thin73pencom.html > > > > ...peter.. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: William Van Tuyl > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 7:54 PM > > Subject: Thinkpad 730T Info please > > > > > Anyone on here have anything to say about the 730T? I am > > > getting one and would appreciate anything at all. > > > > > > Thanks, Bill > > > > From cph Tue Nov 2 11:19:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA08092 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:19:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28644; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:17:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:16:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28443; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:16:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28425; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:16:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:16:10 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [194.216.44.43]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16526; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:15:48 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [194.216.44.36]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA21220; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:15:47 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:15:39 +0000 To: Bill Morrow Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re[2]: 755CX Screen cable 84G6457 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id LAA08093 Index won't sell just the cable - but ACS will, at $75. I've a few other emails out with other companies so I'll see who comes up cheapest. As for making my own, I looked and there are only 24 signal leads plus earth connected between the two ends, and they are standard 1.27mm headers, so it might be relatively easy to make a lead up, albeit one that radiates like a microwave oven with the door open. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: 755CX Screen cable 84G6457 Author: MIME:Bill Morrow at INTERNET Date: 11/2/99 4:29 PM Adam.. you can TRY to call Index Computer Remarketing in Ft. Lauderdale.. they have an 800 number and local numbers as well.. the last time i was there, there were MANY Many thinkpads sitting on shelves in various states of disaster.. but also note that Ed and Jorge (if memory is working this morning) are not in business for their health.. :-) Adam Quantrill wrote: > Havind taken the screen off my 755C I found that the connectors, although superficially looking the same, have different pin-outs. So that won't work. The lack of availability of spares is doubly frustrating as (1) the cable unplugs at th screen end as well and (2) there is an IBM part number on the cable, 84G6457. > > So I have bared the ends of the break in the cable to allow me to buzz it out. The cable pitch is very fine - finer than the smallest surface mount I can reliably solder, so fixing the cable looks iffy, but worth a try. My other option (u less I can source a spare) is to make another cable. The ends look like standard connectors, it should just be a matter of joining them up with some fine-pitch ribbon cable, once I've worked out the pinouts. > > In the meantime, any suggestions for thinkpad 'scrapyard' merchants who might be worth trying for this cable would be welcome. > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Re: 750CX Screen cable > Author: MIME:Bill Morrow at INTERNET > Date: 10/27/99 4:58 PM > > Adam.. > > Adam Quantrill wrote: > > > I've just got hold of a 755CX with a busted screen cable. > > > I have a 755C that is getting a bit old in the tooth, though will still cut the mustard as a standalone screenless (or external monitor) linux box as a firewall or some such. The battery is knackered, so I'd prefer to use the 755CX from n > w on when mobile. > > > > So, my options are: > > > > 1) Fix the screen cable. THis means a session with a soldering iron and a scalpel and a load of potting compound. But it will be a pain to do and may be unreliable. > > > > depending on the reason for the 'damage' it MIGHT be repairable, but unless it is near one of the plug or socket ends i doubt any repair would hold.. repairing the cable itself is, IMO, impossible.. > > > > > 2) Can I use my 755C screen on the 755CX - the connectors look roughly the same? > > > > maybe, depending on the display.. > > > > > 3) can I get a cable from IBM (unlikely), or is the other end soldered down? > > > no, no cable. they sell this stuff by the entire assembly.. > look around and see if there is a busted display machine available any place.. > > > > > - Adam > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > > Harston http://www.generics.co.uk > Cambridge CB2 5NH > > United Kingdom > > Registered in England No 2081960 > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: http://www.roadwarriortrading.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, > any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i just don't care.. :-) > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > Harston http://www.generics.co.uk > Cambridge CB2 5NH > United Kingdom > Registered in England No 2081960 > ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: http://www.roadwarriortrading.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i just don't care.. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Tue Nov 2 12:25:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA08475 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:25:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12257; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:23:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:22:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12073; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:22:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from osage.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12058; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:22:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from osage.gate.net (198.206.134.25 -> osage.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:22:08 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-321.gate.net [199.227.131.130]) by osage.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA194424; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:21:30 -0500 Message-ID: <381F1DB7.E57EBC85@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 12:22:00 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chuck S." CC: Guy Pelchat , JEShoemaker@aol.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, bill@thinkpads.com Subject: Re: Using Partition Magic 4.0 References: <3819BC92.BFEE899A@icanect.net> <007401bf2528$b6f9b180$da00fea9@thinkpad1721i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: WHAT..!!? you mean "one size fits all" really IS a lie..! :-) sounds like one size fits one only..! heheh.. you make a good point for multiple partitions.. but i have always found one worked well for me since a never use more than one OS on any particular drive.. and flipping drives in and out of the ultrabay (which i do frequently, with bootable drives) would not confuse things.. apps and data were where they are supposed to be... "Chuck S." wrote: > Bill, > > A little known fact is that adding a 2nd drive will not change drive letters > of the first drive if you do not make the 2nd drive a bootable drive. There > are several advantages of having multiple partitions on a drive. For > WinNT, make c: a 2 GB FAT-16 file system so you can boot your TP from a DOS > diskette to troubleshoot files on c: if you cannot boot-up from your hard > drive. Make your 2nd partition NTFS. For Win98, make c: FAT-16 and your 2nd > partition FAT-32. Multiple partitions will also help you organize your data > to prevent disk fragmentation and will allow you to more easily do selective > backups. And you can resize the partitions with Partition Magic if you need > to. > > Chuck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morrow > To: Guy Pelchat > Cc: ; ; > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 9:26 AM > Subject: Re: Using Partition Magic 4.0 > > | the main advantage is the drive letters don't change when you add a 2nd > | HDD (that is a bootable drive, as most are) to the ultrabay.. > | > | Guy Pelchat wrote: > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- > | > From: > | > To: > | > Cc: > | > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 7:29 AM > | > Subject: Using Partition Magic 4.0 > | > > | > > I recently coverted my 770X 8.1GB HDD to FAT 32 > | > > using Windows 98's Fat convertor utility. When I asked > | > > about this, Bill Morrow and others suggested also using > | > > Partition Magic 4.0 to change the 2 partitions to just one > | > > 8.1GB partition. > | > > | > What are the advantages of one large partition over two smaller ones? > | > > | > Guy > | > | -- > | Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > | > | ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > | WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: > | http://www.roadwarriortrading.com > | Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > | Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster > | http://www.roadwarriortrading.com > | e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > | > | use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, > | any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills > | or i just don't care.. :-) > | > | > | -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: http://www.roadwarriortrading.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i just don't care.. :-) From cph Wed Nov 3 01:58:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA19459 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:58:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13156; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:57:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:55:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13020; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:55:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from web220.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13007; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:55:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from web220.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.120 -> web220.mail.yahoo.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:55:39 -0500 Message-ID: <19991103070756.26075.rocketmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.215.85.221] by web220.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 02 Nov 1999 23:07:56 PST Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:07:56 -0800 (PST) From: Pencetera Reply-To: mike@pencetera.com Subject: 760ELD and 4.3Gb HD not getting along... To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Hi everyone.... I obtained an IBM Travelstar DKLA-24320 (4.32Gb) HD to replace the 810Mb drive currently in my 760ELD. I installed the drive in the 810Mb caddy and you could tell the system was seeing the HD as the HD emblem on the LCD panel showed the system spinning the drive. When I went into the bios setup it didn't show a drive and when I booted off a floppy and attempted to fdisk the drive fdisk stated no fixed disk present even though the startup disk told me it didn't find a proper format on the HD. Anyone have any ideas? Could it be the connector for the 810Mb drive isn't compatible with the 4.3Gb or...? ===== http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From cph Wed Nov 3 04:07:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA19879 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 04:07:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20015; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 04:07:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 04:06:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19931; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 04:06:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19917; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 04:06:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (165.87.194.229 -> out2.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 04:06:51 -0500 Received: from ibm.net ([139.92.194.64]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <1999110309064322903hk27ne>; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:06:47 +0000 Message-ID: <381FF9C9.C7B7E61D@ibm.net> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 09:00:57 +0000 From: Tony Wright Organization: Equi-Tek CompCon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Using Partition Magic 4.0 References: <0.b746b6fd.25498d84@aol.com> <001101bf221f$a6e1a700$d1e6d7cc@gpelchat> <3819BC92.BFEE899A@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bill Morrow wrote: > the main advantage is the drive letters don't change when you add a 2nd > HDD (that is a bootable drive, as most are) to the ultrabay.. Not wishing to unduly denigrate Bills worthy advice but regrettably his statement is incomplete at best and misleading at worst as it all depends on: 1. What partitions are defined on specific drives as Primary or Logicals.... 2. The impact consequent on other devices that may be attached that are subsequently assigned drive letters after logicals. 3. What operating system and Filesystem type are used. 4. What OS and hence functionality for reserving removable media drive letters is available. 5. Whether partitions are subsequently hidden (eg via PQ's Partition/Boot Magic). Whether it is recommended or not all depends on ones backup methodology, working practises, applications,knowledge, aptitude and ultimately personal preferences. Seperating partitions for say Applications and Data individually requires more forethought in both design/structure(inc FS types) particularly when sharing data between different OS's, and in initially configuring apps to point to specific DATA partitions but may be preferred to aid ease(size/elapsed time) of backups as well as reducing (re)configuring/installing problems if OS has to be re-loaded at any time.... Other factors including reduced cluster size depend on FS used and probably reducing directory/file index search times by partitioning on a single HDD may be insignificant but optimising both FS and partition size on multiple HDD's may yield significant performance improvements. (eg by the well known simple expedient of relocating a virtual memory swap file to the most used partition of the least used physical HDD). Bill is at least correct in alluding to requirement to plan or foresee the possible implications of adding further DASD devices. However I respectively submit that to provide a more comprehensive reccommendation as to re-partitioning in the original poster's scenario would require far greater detail on Apps(any databases,record sizes),users knowledge,future requirements,OS's,backups,working practises, etc etc... and even then the users own "comfort factor" can only be judged by the original poster anyway. > Guy Pelchat wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Cc: > > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 7:29 AM > > Subject: Using Partition Magic 4.0 > > > > > I recently coverted my 770X 8.1GB HDD to FAT 32 > > > using Windows 98's Fat convertor utility. When I asked > > > about this, Bill Morrow and others suggested also using > > > Partition Magic 4.0 to change the 2 partitions to just one > > > 8.1GB partition. > > > > What are the advantages of one large partition over two smaller ones? > > > > Guy > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: > http://www.roadwarriortrading.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster > http://www.roadwarriortrading.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, > any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills > or i just don't care.. :-) -- Rgds Tony W Email: horseman@ibm.net "humanum est errare: To err is human .... and to fail is to be a Project Manager... ...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!" From cph Wed Nov 3 07:31:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA20483 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:31:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04418; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:30:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:30:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04308; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:30:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04281; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:30:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (206.165.6.131 -> smtp01.primenet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:30:08 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA20127 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 05:29:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from bailout-02.phx.primenet.com(206.132.239.152), claiming to be "747" via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAd5aGrN; Wed Nov 3 05:29:48 1999 Message-Id: <4.2.1.19991103051938.0198ae60@pop.primenet.com> X-Sender: cgruttke@pop.primenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1 Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 05:30:06 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Chris Gruttke Subject: FS: 32 MB memory module for 560 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: For sale 32 meg memory module for thinkpad 560 (I think the 380 can use this too). Works perfectly (just upgraded to 72 megs and don't need this one). Part number is KTM-760ELD/32. I think it was made by Kingston. $50 includes shipping/insurance in the US. If interested please contact me directly. Thanks Chris Gruttke From cph Wed Nov 3 07:34:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA20491 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:34:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04726; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:33:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:33:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04649; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:33:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04636; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:33:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (24.2.1.66 -> ha1.rdc1.il.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:33:25 -0500 Received: from randolph ([24.10.171.176]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19991103123324.TGDV5192.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@randolph> for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 04:33:24 -0800 From: "Richard Robbins" To: Subject: List Maintenance Problems Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:33:13 -0600 Message-ID: <000c01bf25f7$98f1da80$c9fbb7c6@tinker.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: I'm sorry for sending this message to the list generally, but think that there may be a problem with the list maintenance program. I'm trying to change email addresses for receiving list items and thought that I should send an "unsubscribe" message from my old address followed by a "subscribe" message from my new address. I've tried to unsubscribe by sending an email to thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu with "unsubscribe" as the subject and "unsubscribe rer@mcs.net" as the body. This resulted in the following error message: The original message was received at Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:28:33 -0500 (EST) >from marvin@localhost ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- :include:/usr/local/mail/list-requests.alias (expanded from: list-requests) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 :include:/usr/local/mail/list-requests.alias... Cannot open /usr/local/mail/list-requests.alias: Group writable directory 554 ... aliasing/forwarding loop broken What am I doing wrong? -- Rich From cph Wed Nov 3 08:58:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA20752 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:58:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09844; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:56:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:56:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09755; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:56:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09726; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:56:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (165.87.194.252 -> out1.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:56:18 -0500 Received: from oscar ([32.100.144.225]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <1999110313555725201iq2p3e>; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:56:05 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01bf2603$59da4f60$e1906420@oscar> Reply-To: "Tom Franklin" From: "Tom Franklin" To: Cc: "ThinkPad List" References: <19991103070756.26075.rocketmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: 760ELD and 4.3Gb HD not getting along... Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:57:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: It has to do with the master/slave settings between those drives. The system is setting your new drive as a slave. You may have to cut some wires or pins to make it work. Get the data sheets for those drives to see what I mean (http://www.storage.ibm.com./hardsoft/diskdrdl/hddprod.htm). Make sure you have the lastest BIOS also. ----- Original Message ----- > I obtained an IBM Travelstar DKLA-24320 (4.32Gb) HD to > replace the 810Mb drive currently in my 760ELD. I > installed the drive in the 810Mb caddy and you could > tell the system was seeing the HD as the HD emblem on > the LCD panel showed the system spinning the drive. > When I went into the bios setup it didn't show a drive > and when I booted off a floppy and attempted to fdisk > the drive fdisk stated no fixed disk present even > though the startup disk told me it didn't find a > proper format on the HD. > > Anyone have any ideas? Could it be the connector for > the 810Mb drive isn't compatible with the 4.3Gb or...? From cph Wed Nov 3 11:12:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA21736 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:12:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20016; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:11:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:10:25 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19921; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:10:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:10:24 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id LAA08622 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:02:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17618; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (38.8.20.2 -> relay20.smtp.psi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:43:15 -0500 Received: from [204.215.186.11] (helo=ntmail.doble.com) by relay20.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 11j2Z5-000381-00; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:43:11 -0500 Received: by NTMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:48:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'Andrew Webber'" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: new HD: can only see 8gb of 10 Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:48:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I had the same problem on my desktop. PM 4 can only see 8 GB because of a BIOS limitation. There is a White Paper on various limitations at one of the HD makers websites. Basically the CHS (Cylinder, Head, Sector) method of defining a Hard Drive has an 8 GB limit. There is a "magic" number that is reported back in the Cylinder count that indicates the total number of LBA sectors should be used instead of the CHS. An Old BIOS will take that number as the actual cylinder count. I was fortunate as there was an BIOS update for my desktop that handled drives greater than 8.4 Gigs. I assume Ontrack Disk Manager and the like can also handle it but I would check for a BIOS upgrade first. I seem to remember that PM4 indicated errors in the partition table if you tried to partition a drive over 8.4 Gigs in a system with old bios and no Disk Manager. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Webber [mailto:awebber@sgml-mercs.com] Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 9:09 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: new HD: can only see 8gb of 10 I've got my new 10gig HD in the ultraslimbay and I'm playing with it with Partition Magic v4. No matter what I do, it reports only 8047.2MB. Is this a limitation of my TP600? Is there some way to get at the other 2gb? I don't care if it's a separate partition. IBM's site seems mute on this subject. Thanks! andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Wed Nov 3 11:17:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA21769 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:17:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20362; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:15:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:14:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20281; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:14:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay03.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20261; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:14:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay03.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.183 -> relay03.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:14:55 -0500 Received: (qmail 1424 invoked from network); 3 Nov 1999 16:14:49 -0000 Received: from www0x.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.53) by outbound.netaddress.usa.net with SMTP; 3 Nov 1999 16:14:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 21759 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Nov 1999 16:14:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19991103161448.21758.qmail@www0x.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.53 by www0x for [206.146.7.2] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Wed Nov 3 16:14:03 GMT 1999 Date: 3 Nov 99 10:14:03 CST From: Rob Bell To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: FW: [Re: List address problem] CC: rerobbins@home.com, r.lawrence@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id LAA21770 An update on the 'thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu' problem. Sounds like it's fixed now. Rob Keith Moore wrote: > >should be fixed now. thanks for the report. > >Keith > >Judi Talley wrote: > > Rob, > > We "upgraded" the mail server in cs this last weekend. I'll > forward this problem to them. > > Thanks for letting me know! > > Rob Bell wrote: > > > > Judi, > > > > Several list members have mentioned problems while attempting to send > > e-mail to thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu. They are receiving "address has > > fatal errors" messages. Is something wrong with this address? > > > > Thanks, > > Rob Bell > > rbell1@netscape.net ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From cph Wed Nov 3 12:43:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA22383 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:43:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26634; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:41:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:41:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26538; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:41:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26525; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:41:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (24.128.1.70 -> ne.mediaone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:41:15 -0500 Received: from Laptop (plumbush.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.150.141]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA17012 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:41:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeffrey Baker" To: Subject: RE: Using Partition Magic 4.0 Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:41:04 -0500 Message-ID: <001001bf2622$9a401de0$0200a8c0@Laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Chuck S. wrote: >There > are several advantages of having multiple partitions on a drive. For > WinNT, make c: a 2 GB FAT-16 file system so you can boot your TP from a DOS > diskette to troubleshoot files on c: if you cannot boot-up from your hard > drive. Does this mean that if your c drive is FAT-32 you cannot boot up from a floppy if need be? -- Jeff From cph Wed Nov 3 13:18:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA22673 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:18:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29339; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:17:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:16:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29241; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:16:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29228; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:16:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (192.160.13.1 -> bolero.rahul.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:16:43 -0500 Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net) by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA01374 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:16:37 -0800 Received: (qmail 1197 invoked from network); 3 Nov 1999 18:16:11 -0000 Received: from mg130-006.ricochet.net (HELO NewPad) (204.179.130.6) by bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 3 Nov 1999 18:16:11 -0000 From: "Michael Geary" To: "Chuck S." , "Bill Morrow" , "Guy Pelchat" Cc: , , Subject: RE: Using Partition Magic 4.0 Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:16:03 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <007401bf2528$b6f9b180$da00fea9@thinkpad1721i> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: > A little known fact is that adding a 2nd drive will not change drive letters > of the first drive if you do not make the 2nd drive a bootable drive. . . Just to clear up one little thing: It doesn't make any difference if a drive is "bootable" or not. What matters is whether the drive has a primary partition or an extended partition. All primary partitions--bootable or not--get their drive letters assigned first, followed by all logical drives on extended partitions. In NT (including Windows 2000), you can always change the drive letters manually, but in Windows 9x you're stuck with the letters that get assigned. -Mike ThinkPads in the Open Directory: http://geary.com/thinkpad/ From cph Wed Nov 3 13:25:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA22786 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:25:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29963; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:24:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:24:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29883; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:24:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29861; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:24:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (18.27.0.167 -> sls.lcs.mit.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:24:05 -0500 Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (gummi [18.27.0.33]) by sls.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05350; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:24:03 -0500 (EST) Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-ID: <38207DC3.248D77D8@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 13:24:03 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeffrey Baker CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Using Partition Magic 4.0 References: <001001bf2622$9a401de0$0200a8c0@Laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Jeffrey Baker wrote: > Does this mean that if your c drive is FAT-32 you cannot boot up from a > floppy if need be? No. You can certainly boot up from a FAT-32-aware floppy, such as created with Win95-2 or Win98. --Lee Hetherington From cph Wed Nov 3 13:57:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA23059 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:57:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03135; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:54:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:54:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03019; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:54:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03004; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:54:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (216.32.181.186 -> law2-f186.hotmail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:54:16 -0500 Received: (qmail 81881 invoked by uid 0); 3 Nov 1999 18:53:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19991103185357.81880.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.24.89.182 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 10:53:56 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.24.89.182] From: "Rat Boy" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 56k modem at 26400 Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 10:53:56 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: OK, I know you probably heard this one a thousand times before, but it's new to me, so could you please give me some direction? I have computer with a 28800 modem. It connects to my ISP at 28800. My 600E with it's 56K modem only connects at 26400 and it does this every time. Why is that? Is there some way I can connect at a higher speed? 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--------------3B485BA2EF1EEA576FE5DBDC-- From cph Wed Nov 3 22:22:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA26743 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 22:22:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06136; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 22:21:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 22:20:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06030; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 22:20:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from onondaga.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05995; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 22:20:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from onondaga.gate.net (198.206.134.31 -> onondaga.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 22:20:18 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-85.gate.net [199.227.20.148]) by onondaga.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA167350; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 22:14:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3820FB75.EAF06B37@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 22:20:21 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Franklin CC: mike@pencetera.com, ThinkPad List Subject: Re: 760ELD and 4.3Gb HD not getting along... References: <19991103070756.26075.rocketmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> <001d01bf2603$59da4f60$e1906420@oscar> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Exactly the problem.. the spec was reversed several years ago.. if you use a HDD shell that has an old drive in it, the new drive will be told that it is a slave and the machine won't see it.. you need to isolate the 4 drive select pins from the computer and short the cable select pins to tell the drive it should look at the cable select pin to see if it should be master or slave (as in the case of using the drive in the ultrabay and another drive in the drive bay).. :-) Tom Franklin wrote: > It has to do with the master/slave settings between those drives. The > system is setting your new drive as a slave. You may have to cut some wires > or pins to make it work. Get the data sheets for those drives to see what I > mean (http://www.storage.ibm.com./hardsoft/diskdrdl/hddprod.htm). Make sure > you have the lastest BIOS also. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > I obtained an IBM Travelstar DKLA-24320 (4.32Gb) HD to > > replace the 810Mb drive currently in my 760ELD. I > > installed the drive in the 810Mb caddy and you could > > tell the system was seeing the HD as the HD emblem on > > the LCD panel showed the system spinning the drive. > > When I went into the bios setup it didn't show a drive > > and when I booted off a floppy and attempted to fdisk > > the drive fdisk stated no fixed disk present even > > though the startup disk told me it didn't find a > > proper format on the HD. > > > > Anyone have any ideas? Could it be the connector for > > the 810Mb drive isn't compatible with the 4.3Gb or...? -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: http://www.roadwarriortrading.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i just don't care.. :-) From cph Wed Nov 3 23:59:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA27165 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:59:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10649; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:58:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:58:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10560; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:58:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10549; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:58:09 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69 -> imo25.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:58:09 -0500 Received: from Custm42435@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id oWPJa08114 (4246) for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:58:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.5984ac4d.25526c5d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:58:05 EST Subject: thinkpad list To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 List-Unsubscribe: Hello all who fair this list of mailings, i am new to the list and would like to take a moment to describe who i am and what i have and am in hopes for for my thinkpad computer. First of all, my name is Chris. The model thinkpad that i have is a thinkpad [ 730t ] with 8 meg ram and the standard 105 meg hard drive. i just recently purchased this along with the field kit on an online aucion, and am currently waiting to recieve it in the mail.. any suggestions on this computer or any comments on what to expect can be sent to me. of course, any cheap upgrade links can also be sent. For those of you who currently have one of these, are they neat little computers? i am wanting to link mine up to my home network, and use my home computer for secondary storage whilst i am at home. it has win 95 with pen services, and some other neat little things installed on it also.. anyone know of some good scheduler or art drawing programs for this computer please let me know! Thanks, Chris. ps. oh, and screensavers that look neat on these would be nice also! From cph Thu Nov 4 02:00:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA27606 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:00:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15293; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 01:59:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 01:57:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15188; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 01:57:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15175; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 01:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 01:57:47 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA06378; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:57:37 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000a01bf2691$d491c6a0$d53e6420@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Keith Wong" , "thinkpad list" References: <3820BCD6.2266E22B@lava.net> Subject: Re: trackpoints Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:57:12 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: IBM Personal Computing SupportKeith wrote: "--this is for you guys and gals that were looking for replacement thinkpad trackpoint covers. I think this site was provided by IBM canada. Let me know if you guys can find it." The pointer to Compulock also appears (now) at IBM's US website. $16 for 4 caps plus shipping is genuinely outrageous. The same area of IBM's website last year said to buy them from the IBM Boulder parts center; at the time I bought 6 for $10 *including* shipping to Hawaii. So, guys and gals, what do you think: if we circulate a petition, asking IBM to make these caps available again for a reasonable price, and many or all on this list sign it, do you think we could get them to change this policy? Is it worth a shot? - David R. From cph Thu Nov 4 02:16:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA27627 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:16:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15800; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:15:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:15:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15728; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:15:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.wlv.netzero.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15714; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:15:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.wlv.netzero.net (209.247.163.51 -> mail1.wlv.netzero.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:15:35 -0500 Received: (qmail 13622 invoked by uid 0); 4 Nov 1999 07:15:41 -0000 Received: from pppa21-resaletucson2-3r1047.saturn.bbn.com (HELO netzero.net) (4.16.94.128) by mail1.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 4 Nov 1999 07:15:41 -0000 Message-ID: <38213279.356C8C56@netzero.net> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 00:15:05 -0700 From: Juan-Carlos Lerman Reply-To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IBM Parts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Probably you can get them directly from IBM for about 1/2 + local tax, no shipping/handling charges. I ordered several P/N 84g6536. A box with 2 red caps was $5.00 last June, when the IBM site already was referring to CompuLock. I bought one year supply. The email address, phone number and physical address from where I bought them is in this reposted message: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: IBM Parts Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:05:50 -0700 From: Juan-Carlos Lerman Reply-To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu To: Randal Whittle , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Three months ago I bought trackpoint caps and I got all the billing by email, from the address given below. Try to contact them directly for your parts and, BTW, ask them to include the missing models in the scrolling menu. <> = __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From cph Thu Nov 4 02:35:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA27693 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:35:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA16388; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:35:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:34:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA16303; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:34:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA16290; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:34:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:34:56 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA06491; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:34:49 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <002701bf2697$06e2b060$d53e6420@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: , References: <38213279.356C8C56@netzero.net> Subject: Re: IBM Parts Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:34:24 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Juan-Carlos: > I ordered several P/N 84g6536. A box with 2 red caps > was $5.00 last June, when the IBM site already was > referring to CompuLock. Yes, it is certainly possible that Boulder still sells them for a reasonable price, but that for some reason IBM no longer points there at their web site - perhaps the web site maintainer's brother-in-law works for Compulock:-) Like Juan-Carlos, I bought many to spare when I last bought mine, but I have been using them a bit longer than I normally would because of the change. I would love to know if the Boulder site is still selling them. BTW, Winbook sells trackpoint covers for $3.99/3; I understand these can be used on ThinkPad's, though I believe they lack the wonderful cat-tongue surface of the IBM covers. - David R. From cph Thu Nov 4 02:59:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA27756 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:59:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17147; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:58:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:58:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17073; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:58:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.wlv.netzero.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17060; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:58:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.wlv.netzero.net (209.247.163.52 -> mail2.wlv.netzero.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:58:32 -0500 Received: (qmail 24637 invoked by uid 0); 4 Nov 1999 07:58:29 -0000 Received: from pppa21-resaletucson2-3r1047.saturn.bbn.com (HELO netzero.net) (4.16.94.128) by mail2.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 4 Nov 1999 07:58:29 -0000 Message-ID: <38213C88.165223B8@netzero.net> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 00:58:00 -0700 From: Juan-Carlos Lerman Reply-To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Ross CC: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IBM Parts References: <38213279.356C8C56@netzero.net> <002701bf2697$06e2b060$d53e6420@math.hawaii.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: David Ross wrote: > > Juan-Carlos: > > > I ordered several P/N 84g6536. A box with 2 red caps > > was $5.00 last June, when the IBM site already was > > referring to CompuLock. > > Yes, it is certainly possible that Boulder still sells them for a reasonable price, but > that for some reason IBM no longer points there at their web site - perhaps the web site > maintainer's brother-in-law works for Compulock:-) And for UPS :-) I thought about this already last June, but it might also be that their parts webmaster never heard about the TP770 and other recent models which are missing from the pulldown menu in their "parts" webpage. It took me two email messages to make them understand that these models are missing there. Eventually they replied a week ago apologizing and claiming that they were notifying their [ir]responsible webmaster. Since the anomaly has not yet been fixed, I suggest you also write them at the same address and IBM spokesperson. All the info is in their message (see below). Quoting from their reply: -------- Original Message -------- Date: Wed, 27 Oct 99 09:10:33 MDT From: askibm@vnet.ibm.com To: jclerman@netzero.net IBM-CALLOWN INTERNET RESPONSE FACILITY To......: jclerman@netzero.net Subject.: SHOPIBM US CONTACT Dear Dr. Lerman, Thank you for contacting IBM. We are in receipt of your e-mail regarding the IBM Web site. Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention. Please note that we have forwarded your e-mail to the webmaster of this site for further review and assistance. We appreciate your patience and feedback and apologize for any inconvenience or frustrations that you have experienced. In the meantime, please contact the IBM PC Helpcenter at 1-800-772-2227. Please select options 3 and then 2 on the voice response unit to be connected to the ThinkPad Group. .............................................................. Thank you for using the IBM Electronic Response System. MICHELLE (M.T.) SERSTA (ASKIBM@vnet.ibm.com) IBM Internet Support Group 1-800-IBM-4YOU CALLOWN Log Number: 1345694 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Like Juan-Carlos, I bought many to spare when I last bought mine, but I have been using them a bit longer than I normally would > because of the change. I would love to know if the Boulder site is still selling them. > > BTW, Winbook sells trackpoint covers for $3.99/3; I understand these can be used on ThinkPad's, > though I believe they lack the wonderful cat-tongue surface of the IBM covers. > > - David R. __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From cph Thu Nov 4 03:38:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA27826 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 03:38:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21099; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 03:38:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 03:38:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21019; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 03:38:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21000; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 03:38:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (206.184.139.14 -> proxy2.ba.best.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 03:38:01 -0500 Received: from dgoldman (adsl-216-101-170-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.101.170.226]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id AAA25003 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 00:37:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.1.19991104003616.00d699c0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1 Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 00:37:56 -0800 To: "thinkpad list" From: David Goldman Subject: Re: trackpoints In-Reply-To: <000a01bf2691$d491c6a0$d53e6420@math.hawaii.edu> References: <3820BCD6.2266E22B@lava.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:57 PM 11/3/1999 , David Ross wrote: >IBM Personal Computing SupportKeith wrote: > >"--this is for you guys and gals that were looking for replacement >thinkpad >trackpoint covers. I think this site was provided by IBM canada. Let >me know if you guys can find it." > >The pointer to Compulock also appears (now) at IBM's US website. $16 for 4 caps plus shipping is >genuinely outrageous. The same area of IBM's website last year said to buy them from >the IBM Boulder parts center; at the time I bought 6 for $10 *including* shipping to Hawaii. > >So, guys and gals, what do you think: if we circulate a petition, asking IBM to make >these caps available again for a reasonable price, and many or all on this list sign it, >do you think we could get them to change this policy? Is it worth a shot? I'd certainly be willing to join such an effort. 6 for $10 is a much better price and (at least from my experience with another brand of laptop), six new trackpoint caps should last for 3+ years or so. -- David Goldman From cph Thu Nov 4 04:26:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA27997 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:26:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23206; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:25:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:25:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23134; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:25:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23121; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:25:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:25:15 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA06671; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:25:09 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000f01bf26a6$705af8e0$e93e6420@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "thinkpad list" , "David Goldman" References: <3820BCD6.2266E22B@lava.net> <4.2.1.19991104003616.00d699c0@127.0.0.1> Subject: Re: trackpoints Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:24:44 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: David Goldman wrote: > I'd certainly be willing to join such an effort. I guess as per Juan-Carlos's point we should first confirm that we can't just call Boulder and still get a sane price. > and (at least from my experience with another brand of laptop), six new trackpoint > caps should last for 3+ years or so. The newer ThinkPad caps are more short-lived than older ones and those from other laptops because of the rough surface, which tends to wear down quickly (at least for me). I go through 3-4/year on my main laptop. - David R. From cph Thu Nov 4 06:22:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA28300 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:22:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA05053; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:21:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04977; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:21:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04964; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:21:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:21:33 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p36.hwts18.loop.net [207.211.63.129]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA00929; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 03:23:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911041123.DAA00929@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "f.s.janik@worldnet.att.net" , "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 03:25:18 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thinkpad 730T Info please List-Unsubscribe: If anyone wants, I have Windows 95 running on my 730T. I need a bigger HD and more memory, but if anyone has any questions, let me know. I also found that memory used with a ThinkPad 750 can be used on that machine as well, I tested that myself. Paul From cph Thu Nov 4 08:15:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA28770 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:15:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09125; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:14:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:14:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09052; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:14:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.panix.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09039; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:14:25 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mail1.panix.com (166.84.0.212 -> mail1.panix.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:14:25 -0500 Received: from mailhost.panix.com (broccole.dialup.access.net [166.84.249.114]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 81A8F30F98; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:14:22 -0500 (EST) To: Bill Morrow Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer for OS/2 (Green Edition Ver 3.0) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:58:13 Subject: Re: trackpoint stuck - solved Message-Id: <19991104131422.81A8F30F98@mail1.panix.com> List-Unsubscribe: ** Reply to note from Bill Morrow Mon, 01 Nov 1999 12:09:51 -0500 Hi, A quick note to say that the stuck trackpoint on my 560e was solved after reseating the ribbon connector from the trackpoint to the system board. Bill, thanks for the help in removing the keyboard assembly - I didn't see the plastic covers over the additional screws at first. Michael Cole Michael Cole broccole@panix.com cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From cph Thu Nov 4 08:18:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA28777 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:18:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09411; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:18:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:18:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09318; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:18:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09307; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:18:17 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5 -> imo15.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:18:17 -0500 Received: from JEShoemaker@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id oXZa026723 (4210) for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:18:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.2f443e76.2552e195@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:18:13 EST Subject: 770 Battery Bay Plug? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 List-Unsubscribe: I just noticed IBM's recent TP General, Subject: Tips for getting the most out of your battery Dated 11-02-99 at (all 1 link): link):http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/PFAN-3QNQJN.html?lang=en_US&page=brand&brand=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+77 0X%7C9549%7C71O&family=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+770X&machineType=IBM+ThinkPad%7 CThinkPad+770X%7C9549&model=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+770X%7C9549%7C71O&doctype= Frequently+asked+questions&subtype=All&up=%25%25q7X9J7ZCXQ73mfqIk60&ut=loginCo unt%3D86%26productCount%3D3%26lastLoginDate%3D1999-11-03-18.18.14.530974%26typ e1%3D9549%26userID%3D%26greeting%3DWelcome%2Bback%252C%2BMr.%2BShoemaker%26bra nd%3DIBM%2BThinkPad%26family%3DThinkPad%2B770X%26model1%3D71O The following is copied for the above site: "NOTE: If you mainly use your ThinkPad as a desktop replacement, your battery will have a constant charge of 100%. This will negatively affect the performance of your battery. It would be better to use battery power or to remove the battery from your system while using mains power." Question: Does anyone make a plug to fit in the Battery Bay to protect it from dust, cookie crumbs, etc. while the battery is removed? Any suggestions? TIA ... John From cph Thu Nov 4 08:51:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA28886 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:51:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11029; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:49:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:46:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10738; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:46:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10714; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:46:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:46:40 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [194.216.44.43]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22170; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:46:18 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [194.216.44.36]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA11408; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:46:15 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:46:07 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Subject: Re: 770 Battery Bay Plug? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id IAA28887 Yes - use a dud battery! Or one that's on its way out - then you have a built-in UPS. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: 770 Battery Bay Plug? Author: MIME: at INTERNET Date: 11/4/99 1:24 PM I just noticed IBM's recent TP General, Subject: Tips for getting the most out of your battery Dated 11-02-99 at (all 1 link): link):http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/PFAN-3QNQJN.html?lang=en_US&page=brand &brand=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+77 0X%7C9549%7C71O&family=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+770X&machineType=IBM+ThinkPad%7 CThinkPad+770X%7C9549&model=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+770X%7C9549%7C71O&doctype= Frequently+asked+questions&subtype=All&up=%25%25q7X9J7ZCXQ73mfqIk60&ut=loginCo unt%3D86%26productCount%3D3%26lastLoginDate%3D1999-11-03-18.18.14.530974%26typ e1%3D9549%26userID%3D%26greeting%3DWelcome%2Bback%252C%2BMr.%2BShoemaker%26bra nd%3DIBM%2BThinkPad%26family%3DThinkPad%2B770X%26model1%3D71O The following is copied for the above site: "NOTE: If you mainly use your ThinkPad as a desktop replacement, your battery will have a constant charge of 100%. This will negatively affect the performance of your battery. It would be better to use battery power or to remove the battery from your system while using mains power." Question: Does anyone make a plug to fit in the Battery Bay to protect it from dust, cookie crumbs, etc. while the battery is removed? Any suggestions? TIA ... John ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Thu Nov 4 10:44:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA29488 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:44:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18666; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:42:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:22:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17057; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:22:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from uldns1.unil.ch (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17017; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from uldns1.unil.ch (130.223.8.20 -> uldns1.unil.ch) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:21:54 -0500 Received: from pcibcm130b.unil.ch ([130.223.201.96] helo=thinkpad) by uldns1.unil.ch with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu id 11jOhv-0000Ut-00; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:21:47 +0100 From: "Etienne Pralong" To: "thinkpad list" Subject: Upgrade from a TP 600 Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:21:25 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bf26d8$425b62e0$60c9df82@unil.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id KAA18666 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id KAA29489 Hello all, I am thinking about buying a new TP. I am currently using a PII266 TP 600 with 92 MB Ram and a large ( 8 GB) hard disk. I also have bought a Selecta base that I find very convenient. What will be my best buy ? I am not travelling a lot but I am looking more for a desktop replacement while I would like to be able to recycle some of my investments (RAM, HD) in a new PC. I am doing signal analysis and need some processing power. My budget is limitless if I can convince my boss that this is worth the money ;-) Thanks to answer. Etienne Pralong Tél: 021 692 5268 (Bureau) IBCM Tél: 021 692 5100 (Secrétariat) Rue du Bugnon 9 Fax: 021 692 5105 CH-100 Lausanne Email: epralong@pop-server.unil.ch Mobile :079 280 1151 From cph Thu Nov 4 12:26:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA30160 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:26:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26114; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:24:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:06:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24739; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:06:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24693; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:06:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (199.175.106.4 -> mail.islandnet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:06:25 -0500 Received: from 139-142-112-185.islandnet.com [139.142.112.185] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m11jQKi-0006ekC for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:05:56 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: ross@math.hawaii.edu Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: trackpoints Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 08:45:05 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <3820BCD6.2266E22B@lava.net> <4.2.1.19991104003616.00d699c0@127.0.0.1> <000f01bf26a6$705af8e0$e93e6420@math.hawaii.edu> In-Reply-To: <000f01bf26a6$705af8e0$e93e6420@math.hawaii.edu> Lines: 21 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: >The newer ThinkPad caps are more short-lived than older ones >and those from other laptops because of the rough surface, which tends >to wear down quickly (at least for me). I go through >3-4/year on my main laptop. > >- David R. > Hmm. I'm still using the original trackpoint that came with my 701 four years ago. It's worn down a little, but still has a good, rough surface. The spare that came with the computer must be in its bag ... somewhere. So there must be a huge gap in quality and/or a huge gap in usage, both amount and softness of touch. -- cheers Jonathan From cph Thu Nov 4 14:45:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA31373 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:45:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06575; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:43:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:31:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05476; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:31:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05423; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:31:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (204.179.143.6 -> rgate1.ricochet.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:31:13 -0500 Received: from thinkpad760xl (mg139-054.ricochet.net [204.179.139.54]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA25905 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:30:38 -0600 (CST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:30:34 -0800 Message-ID: <01BF26B8.027F5340.mike760@ricochet.net> From: Mike To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: 770 Battery Bay Plug? Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:30:33 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id OAA31374 On Thursday, November 04, 1999 5:46 AM, Adam Quantrill [SMTP:aquantrill@scigen.co.uk] wrote: > Yes - use a dud battery! Or one that's on its way out - then you have a built-in UPS. > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: 770 Battery Bay Plug? > Author: MIME: at INTERNET > Date: 11/4/99 1:24 PM > > > I just noticed IBM's recent TP General, Subject: Tips for getting the most out of your battery Dated 11-02-99 at (all 1 link): > > > link):http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/PFAN-3QNQJN.html?lang=en_US&page =brand &brand=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+77 > 0X%7C9549%7C71O&family=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+770X&machineType=IBM+Thin kPad%7 > > CThinkPad+770X%7C9549&model=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+770X%7C9549%7C71O&do ctype= > > Frequently+asked+questions&subtype=All&up=%25%25q7X9J7ZCXQ73mfqIk60&ut=l oginCo > > unt%3D86%26productCount%3D3%26lastLoginDate%3D1999-11-03-18.18.14.530974 %26typ > > e1%3D9549%26userID%3D%26greeting%3DWelcome%2Bback%252C%2BMr.%2BShoemaker %26bra > > nd%3DIBM%2BThinkPad%26family%3DThinkPad%2B770X%26model1%3D71O > > The following is copied for the above site: > > "NOTE: If you mainly use your ThinkPad as a desktop replacement, your battery will have a constant charge of 100%. This will negatively affect the performance of your battery. It would be better to use battery power or to remove the battery from your system while using mains power." > I don't quite understand this. My battery won't charge until it reaches 95%. Than and only than will it start charging. So, yes, it does stay at 100%, but it does not constantly charge. So it still would be the same as leaving out of the compartment...right? So if I keep it in without charging than it should be OK. Mike From cph Thu Nov 4 14:58:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA31481 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:58:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07541; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:54:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:45:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06713; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:45:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06697; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:45:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (204.179.143.6 -> rgate1.ricochet.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:45:20 -0500 Received: from thinkpad760xl (mg139-054.ricochet.net [204.179.139.54]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA26368 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:45:13 -0600 (CST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:45:10 -0800 Message-ID: <01BF26BA.0C3F22A0.mike760@ricochet.net> From: Mike To: "Thinkpad (E-mail)" Subject: 2nd battery for 760xl and cover Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:45:08 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello all, I am looking for a battery for my 760xl. I want to put it in the other bay. Would like ot have a cover for it, so there is not a opening to the other bay. Hope you guys and gals know what I am looking for. Thanks, Mike From cph Thu Nov 4 18:38:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA00947 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:38:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27321; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:37:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:36:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27168; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:36:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pima.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27154; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:36:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pima.gate.net (198.206.134.30 -> pima.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:36:12 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-97.gate.net [199.227.20.160]) by pima.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA59430; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:29:00 -0500 Message-ID: <38221873.1B4F229E@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 18:36:19 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: 770 Battery Bay Plug? References: <01BF26B8.027F5340.mike760@ricochet.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3458A914B724960FED45288D" List-Unsubscribe: --------------3458A914B724960FED45288D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mike.. you'll notice that the battery, while in the machine, and on the AC adapter, never goes down to 95%, so there might be some trickle charging going on.. :-) Mike wrote: > On Thursday, November 04, 1999 5:46 AM, Adam Quantrill > [SMTP:aquantrill@scigen.co.uk] wrote: > > Yes - use a dud battery! Or one that's on its way out - then you have a > built-in UPS. > > > > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator > _________________________________ > > Subject: 770 Battery Bay Plug? > > Author: MIME: at INTERNET > > Date: 11/4/99 1:24 PM > > > > > > I just noticed IBM's recent TP General, Subject: Tips for getting the > most out of your battery Dated 11-02-99 at (all 1 link): > > > > > > > link):http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/PFAN-3QNQJN.html?lang=en_US&page > =brand &brand=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+77 > > > 0X%7C9549%7C71O&family=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+770X&machineType=IBM+Thin > kPad%7 > > > > > CThinkPad+770X%7C9549&model=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+770X%7C9549%7C71O&do > ctype= > > > > > Frequently+asked+questions&subtype=All&up=%25%25q7X9J7ZCXQ73mfqIk60&ut=l > oginCo > > > > > unt%3D86%26productCount%3D3%26lastLoginDate%3D1999-11-03-18.18.14.530974 > %26typ > > > > > e1%3D9549%26userID%3D%26greeting%3DWelcome%2Bback%252C%2BMr.%2BShoemaker > %26bra > > > > nd%3DIBM%2BThinkPad%26family%3DThinkPad%2B770X%26model1%3D71O > > > > The following is copied for the above site: > > > > "NOTE: If you mainly use your ThinkPad as a desktop replacement, your > battery will have a constant charge of 100%. This will negatively affect > the performance of your battery. It would be better to use battery power or > to remove the battery from your system while using mains power." > > > > I don't quite understand this. My battery won't charge until it reaches > 95%. Than and only than will it start charging. So, yes, it does stay at > 100%, but it does not constantly charge. So it still would be the same as > leaving out of the compartment...right? So if I keep it in without charging > than it should be OK. Mike -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: http://www.roadwarriortrading.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i just don't care.. :-) --------------3458A914B724960FED45288D Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike..
you'll notice that the battery, while in the machine, and on the AC adapter, never goes down to 95%, so there might be some trickle charging going on..  :-)

Mike wrote:

On Thursday, November 04, 1999 5:46 AM, Adam Quantrill
[SMTP:aquantrill@scigen.co.uk] wrote:
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> The following is copied for the above site:
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> "NOTE:  If you mainly use your ThinkPad as a desktop replacement, your
battery will have a constant charge of 100%. This will negatively affect
the performance of your battery. It would be better to use battery power or
to remove the battery from your system while using mains power."
>

I don't quite understand this. My battery won't charge until it reaches
95%. Than and only than will it start charging. So, yes, it does stay at
100%, but it does not constantly charge. So it still would be the same as
leaving out of the compartment...right? So if I keep it in without charging
than it should be OK. Mike

--
Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: http://www.roadwarriortrading.com
Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html
Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com
e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net

use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames,
any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i just don't care..  :-)
  --------------3458A914B724960FED45288D-- From cph Thu Nov 4 18:52:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA01010 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:52:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28128; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:50:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:50:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28030; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28011; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:50:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (204.179.143.6 -> rgate1.ricochet.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:50:01 -0500 Received: from thinkpad760xl (mg-20425418-7.ricochet.net [204.254.18.7]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA03088 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:49:45 -0600 (CST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:49:40 -0800 Message-ID: <01BF26DC.34936A00.mike760@ricochet.net> From: Mike To: "Thinkpad (E-mail)" Subject: removing power on password Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:49:39 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: First of all I own this computer and I do know the password. I am selling this so I want to remove the password. Would anyone know how I do that? Thanks, Mike From cph Thu Nov 4 18:55:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA01042 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:55:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28505; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:54:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:53:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28425; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:53:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28402; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:53:42 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7 -> imo17.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:53:44 -0500 Received: from JEShoemaker@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id wWFTa17081 (4205); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:53:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.3444bde8.2553767c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:53:32 EST Subject: Re: removing power on password To: mike760@ricochet.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 04/11/99 6:50:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, mike760@ricochet.net writes: > First of all I own this computer and I do know the password. I am selling > this so I want to remove the password. Would anyone know how I do that? Mike, Check this IBM site: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/YAST-3JZS7U.html John From cph Thu Nov 4 19:00:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA01077 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:00:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28709; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:57:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28637; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:57:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28622; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:57:24 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10 -> imo20.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:57:24 -0500 Received: from JEShoemaker@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id wCMBa14300 (4205); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:57:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.6229986a.2553775c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:57:16 EST Subject: Re: removing power on password To: mike760@ricochet.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 04/11/99 6:50:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, mike760@ricochet.net writes: > First of all I own this computer and I do know the password. I am selling > this so I want to remove the password. Would anyone know how I do that? Mike, To change the ThinkPad passwords read this site: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/YAST-3JZNDP 1. Boot while holding down f1 2. When it asks for the password, - enter password - hit spacebar once - hit ENTER 3. When EasySetup comes up, change the password. 4. Or, hit ESC to have NO password. Sorry ... the lst URL that I send dealt with the Supervisor Password. John From cph Thu Nov 4 19:09:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA01126 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:09:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29251; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:06:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29156; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:06:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29142; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:06:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (204.179.143.6 -> rgate1.ricochet.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:06:45 -0500 Received: from thinkpad760xl (mg128-199.ricochet.net [204.179.128.199]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA03620; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:06:29 -0600 (CST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:06:24 -0800 Message-ID: <01BF26DE.8B0F63A0.mike760@ricochet.net> From: Mike To: "'JEShoemaker@aol.com'" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: removing power on password Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:06:23 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hey thanks. ibm.com must be very busy. Can't get to the page. Mike On Thursday, November 04, 1999 3:54 PM, JEShoemaker@aol.com [SMTP:JEShoemaker@aol.com] wrote: > In a message dated 04/11/99 6:50:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, > mike760@ricochet.net writes: > > > First of all I own this computer and I do know the password. I am selling > > this so I want to remove the password. Would anyone know how I do that? > > Mike, > > Check this IBM site: > > http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/YAST-3JZS7U.html > > John From cph Thu Nov 4 19:19:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA01190 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:19:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29843; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:16:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:16:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29754; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:16:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29730; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:16:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (204.179.143.3 -> rgate2.ricochet.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:16:36 -0500 Received: from thinkpad760xl (mg134-174.ricochet.net [204.179.134.174]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA09115; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:16:20 -0600 (CST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:16:15 -0800 Message-ID: <01BF26DF.EB5A7640.mike760@ricochet.net> From: Mike To: "'JEShoemaker@aol.com'" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: removing power on password Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:16:14 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hey thanks again. It worked. This list is invaluable! Mike On Thursday, November 04, 1999 3:57 PM, JEShoemaker@aol.com [SMTP:JEShoemaker@aol.com] wrote: > In a message dated 04/11/99 6:50:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, > mike760@ricochet.net writes: > > > First of all I own this computer and I do know the password. I am selling > > this so I want to remove the password. Would anyone know how I do that? > > Mike, > > To change the ThinkPad passwords read this site: > > http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/YAST-3JZNDP > > 1. Boot while holding down f1 > > 2. When it asks for the password, > - enter password > - hit spacebar once > - hit ENTER > > 3. When EasySetup comes up, change the password. > > 4. Or, hit ESC to have NO password. > > Sorry ... the lst URL that I send dealt with the Supervisor > Password. > > John From cph Thu Nov 4 20:06:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA01435 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:06:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02628; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:01:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:00:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02486; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:00:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from malasada.lava.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02447; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:00:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from malasada.lava.net (199.222.42.2 -> malasada.lava.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:00:31 -0500 Received: from lava.net(honohono032.lava.net[207.26.194.175]) (949 bytes) by malasada.lava.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:00:09 -1000 (HST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #2 built 1999-Jun-23) Message-ID: <38222CA7.6D3E9FFB@lava.net> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 15:02:31 -1000 From: Keith Wong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad list Subject: still can't find a dock II adapter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: -- I tried SRS industries for a dock II adapter for my TP 701(ever notice that Beavis and Butthead have a different meaning for "TP"?) but they were sold out. =( Does anyone else have a lead as to where to get one? Bill from SRS gave me a couple of other sources but one wanted $169 and the other $100. Man I am so bummed out I didn't pick one up when they were selling for $25 a pop. Thanks one and all. --Keith Wong Honolulu, Hawaii From cph Thu Nov 4 22:09:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA02141 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:09:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08944; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:08:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:06:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08792; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:06:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from malasada.lava.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08684; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:06:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from malasada.lava.net (199.222.42.2 -> malasada.lava.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:06:33 -0500 Received: from lava.net(honohono032.lava.net[207.26.194.175]) (1970 bytes) by malasada.lava.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:06:22 -1000 (HST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #2 built 1999-Jun-23) Message-ID: <38224A41.60430583@lava.net> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 17:08:49 -1000 From: Keith Wong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad list Subject: Re: still can't find a dock II adapter References: <38222CA7.6D3E9FFB@lava.net> <38223F3E.A3F58366@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: --Thanks Frank, yeah I tried the e-bay auctions, in fact I bought my TP701 >from haggle.com. I love the little thing, but I'm still short a cd drive for it. The problem is that there seems to be a run on the 701 adapters. They started to get really scarce on ebay as soon as I got the dosh to buy one, and the prices went through the roof. I'll keep checking though. thanks again Frank. --Keith Wong Frank Janik wrote: > Hi Keith > Uncle Frank Here, Have You Tried Ebay Auctions, Under > Computers, Than Portable Computers??? I Find Alot Of Interesting > ThinkPad Gadgets!!! I Remember Seeing Adapters For The 701 Series. > You Should Pick One Up For A Fairly Small Bid. > Good Luck, and Let Me Know How You Came OUT. > > PS. The Folks Are Honest, I Have Not Been Burned Yet. > Thats Were I Got My IBM ThinkPad 755CE, I Love IT, Works Perfect. > > Keith Wong wrote: > > > > -- I tried SRS industries for a dock II adapter for my TP 701(ever > > notice that Beavis and Butthead have a different meaning for "TP"?) but > > they were sold out. =( Does anyone else have a lead as to where to get > > one? Bill from SRS gave me a couple of other sources but one wanted > > $169 and the other $100. Man I am so bummed out I didn't pick one up > > when they were selling for $25 a pop. Thanks one and all. > > > > --Keith Wong > > Honolulu, Hawaii From cph Thu Nov 4 22:33:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA02249 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:33:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10345; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:31:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:31:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10258; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:31:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10243; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:31:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (24.2.1.66 -> ha1.rdc1.il.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:31:09 -0500 Received: from randolph ([24.10.171.176]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19991105033049.KOBZ5192.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@randolph> for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:30:49 -0800 From: "Richard Robbins" To: Subject: Thinkpad i Series DVD Player Question Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 21:24:25 -0600 Message-ID: <000a01bf273d$431681a0$c9fbb7c6@tinker.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I'm looking to purchase a new Thinkpad i Series notebook, some of which come with DVD players. I have no reason at present to use a DVD player and was wondering if there was any reason to avoid purchasing a machine with a DVD as opposed to a CD ROM player. Do the DVD drives used in the Thinkpads ever have any problems reading CD ROMs? We use a lot of CD ROMs, primarily reference materials and childrens' software. -- Rich From cph Thu Nov 4 22:41:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA02296 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:41:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10832; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:40:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10743; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:40:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot023.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10730; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:40:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot023.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.123 -> pilot023.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:40:04 -0500 Received: from andres (pm454-36.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.238]) by pilot023.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA38208 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:40:01 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991104224000.00be6c60@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 22:40:00 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Thinkpad i Series DVD Player Question In-Reply-To: <000a01bf273d$431681a0$c9fbb7c6@tinker.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Other than the *idiotic* Region restrictions on not being able to change your region code, I know of no problems using a CD on a DVD player. The region idiocy is that once you've set your region (reg 1 is NA) you can't reset it without reloading the operating system, so says IBM. You probably want to get the DVD player anyway. It won't be long before a lot of childrens software will be on DVD's anyway, given how much more space they have for video/audio. STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 09:24 PM 11/4/1999 -0600, Richard Robbins wrote: >I'm looking to purchase a new Thinkpad i Series notebook, some of which come >with DVD players. I have no reason at present to use a DVD player and was >wondering if there was any reason to avoid purchasing a machine with a DVD >as opposed to a CD ROM player. Do the DVD drives used in the Thinkpads ever >have any problems reading CD ROMs? We use a lot of CD ROMs, primarily >reference materials and childrens' software. > >-- Rich From cph Thu Nov 4 22:58:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA02333 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:58:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11566; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:56:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:55:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11489; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:55:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11474; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:55:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (204.179.143.3 -> rgate2.ricochet.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:55:40 -0500 Received: from ricochet.net (mg134-130.ricochet.net [204.179.134.130]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13787; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 21:55:27 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3822552A.581E9642@ricochet.net> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 19:55:22 -0800 From: mike X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Keith Wong CC: thinkpad list Subject: Re: still can't find a dock II adapter References: <38222CA7.6D3E9FFB@lava.net> <38223F3E.A3F58366@worldnet.att.net> <38224A41.60430583@lava.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Keith Wong wrote: > > --Thanks Frank, yeah I tried the e-bay auctions, in fact I bought my TP701 > from haggle.com. I love the little thing, but I'm still short a cd drive for > it. The problem is that there seems to be a run on the 701 adapters. They > started to get really scarce on ebay as soon as I got the dosh to buy one, and > the prices went through the roof. I'll keep checking though. thanks again > Frank. > > --Keith Wong > > Frank Janik wrote: > > > Hi Keith > > Uncle Frank Here, Have You Tried Ebay Auctions, Under > > Computers, Than Portable Computers??? I Find Alot Of Interesting > > ThinkPad Gadgets!!! I Remember Seeing Adapters For The 701 Series. > > You Should Pick One Up For A Fairly Small Bid. > > Good Luck, and Let Me Know How You Came OUT. > > > > PS. The Folks Are Honest, I Have Not Been Burned Yet. > > Thats Were I Got My IBM ThinkPad 755CE, I Love IT, Works Perfect. > > > > Keith Wong wrote: > > > > > > -- I tried SRS industries for a dock II adapter for my TP 701(ever > > > notice that Beavis and Butthead have a different meaning for "TP"?) but > > > they were sold out. =( Does anyone else have a lead as to where to get > > > one? Bill from SRS gave me a couple of other sources but one wanted > > > $169 and the other $100. Man I am so bummed out I didn't pick one up > > > when they were selling for $25 a pop. Thanks one and all. > > > > > > --Keith Wong > > > Honolulu, Hawaii Keith, Are you looking for the port replicator that fits on the back of the 701. I had a 701c a couple of years ago. I still have the port if that is what your looking for. Let me know. Mike From cph Thu Nov 4 23:14:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA02423 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:14:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12340; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:13:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:12:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12258; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:12:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12245; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:12:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (24.112.32.20 -> smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:12:51 -0500 Received: from mail.on.rogers.wave.ca ([24.112.32.4]:35809 "EHLO mail.on.rogers.wave.ca" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <513111-26628>; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:11:06 -0500 Received: from cr394328-a.rchrd1.on.wave.home.com ([24.112.93.189]:1176 "HELO actprod" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mail.on.rogers.wave.ca with SMTP id <324681-9181>; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:12:17 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991104231216.00a3ec80@mail.netrover.com> X-Sender: nractc03@mail.netrover.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 23:12:16 -0500 To: Keith Wong From: Tom Trottier Subject: Re: still can't find a dock II adapter Cc: thinkpad list In-Reply-To: <38222CA7.6D3E9FFB@lava.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Keep looking at eBay. That's where I got mine for ~$40US At 15:02 1999/11/04 -1000, Keith Wong wrote: > >-- I tried SRS industries for a dock II adapter for my TP 701(ever >notice that Beavis and Butthead have a different meaning for "TP"?) but >they were sold out. =( Does anyone else have a lead as to where to get >one? Bill from SRS gave me a couple of other sources but one wanted >$169 and the other $100. Man I am so bummed out I didn't pick one up >when they were selling for $25 a pop. Thanks one and all. ------------------ From:Tom Trottier, __o TomTrottier@hotmail.com _ \< "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein (*)/'(*) My personal phone number has changed from 613 594-4829 to 613 291-1168 My personal address from Sept. 1 to Oct 31, 1999 will be: 400 Slater St, Suite 1616, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 My address from Nov 1 on will be: 400 Slater St, Suite 415, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 From cph Fri Nov 5 00:00:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA02577 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 00:00:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14909; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:58:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:58:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14786; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:58:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14772; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:57:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:57:58 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA10163 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:57:50 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <003701bf274a$4364b5c0$6c3e6420@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: IBM customer service address (*not* e-address) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:57:27 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone have the street address for IBM Customer Service? I know this exists - I had a correspondence with "executive customer service" a few years ago - but it now seems to be a trade secret, i.e. I cannot find it on any of their web sites and none of the disembodied voices at the end of the various IBM phone numbers I called today were able or willing to give me the information. (If necessary I will try to find my old files - currently in storage - but I'm hoping someone here has the info already.) Thanks, David R. ross@math.hawaii.edu From cph Fri Nov 5 01:09:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA02808 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 01:09:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18577; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 01:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 01:06:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18420; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 01:06:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.hawaii.rr.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18380; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 01:06:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.hawaii.rr.com (204.210.97.13 -> smtp3.hawaii.rr.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 01:06:19 -0500 Received: from lava.net - 24.94.71.233 by smtp3.hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1774.114.11); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:02:27 -1000 Message-ID: <382273F8.9C5AB974@lava.net> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 20:06:49 -1000 From: Keith Wong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: still can't find a dock II adapter References: <38222CA7.6D3E9FFB@lava.net> <38223F3E.A3F58366@worldnet.att.net> <38224A41.60430583@lava.net> <3822552A.581E9642@ricochet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: --Thanks Mike, yeah I have the port replicator. The dock II adapter is a little connector piece that they sell especially for the dock II. I've gotten in touch with a guy that lives down the street from me that is gonna sell me the dock II and a scsi cdrom for $45. And since he's right here, I don't have to pay for shipping. Thanks for the offer though. This list rocks. --Keith mike wrote: > Keith Wong wrote: > > > > --Thanks Frank, yeah I tried the e-bay auctions, in fact I bought my TP701 > > from haggle.com. I love the little thing, but I'm still short a cd drive for > > it. The problem is that there seems to be a run on the 701 adapters. They > > started to get really scarce on ebay as soon as I got the dosh to buy one, and > > the prices went through the roof. I'll keep checking though. thanks again > > Frank. > > > > --Keith Wong > > > > Frank Janik wrote: > > > > > Hi Keith > > > Uncle Frank Here, Have You Tried Ebay Auctions, Under > > > Computers, Than Portable Computers??? I Find Alot Of Interesting > > > ThinkPad Gadgets!!! I Remember Seeing Adapters For The 701 Series. > > > You Should Pick One Up For A Fairly Small Bid. > > > Good Luck, and Let Me Know How You Came OUT. > > > > > > PS. The Folks Are Honest, I Have Not Been Burned Yet. > > > Thats Were I Got My IBM ThinkPad 755CE, I Love IT, Works Perfect. > > > > > > Keith Wong wrote: > > > > > > > > -- I tried SRS industries for a dock II adapter for my TP 701(ever > > > > notice that Beavis and Butthead have a different meaning for "TP"?) but > > > > they were sold out. =( Does anyone else have a lead as to where to get > > > > one? Bill from SRS gave me a couple of other sources but one wanted > > > > $169 and the other $100. Man I am so bummed out I didn't pick one up > > > > when they were selling for $25 a pop. Thanks one and all. > > > > > > > > --Keith Wong > > > > Honolulu, Hawaii > > Keith, > > Are you looking for the port replicator that fits on the back of the > 701. I had a 701c a couple of years ago. I still have the port if that > is what your looking for. Let me know. > > Mike From cph Fri Nov 5 07:48:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA04377 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:48:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11608; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:47:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:44:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11482; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:44:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rpi.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11464; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:44:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rpi.edu (128.113.100.7 -> mail.rpi.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:44:54 -0500 Received: from kumara2-1 (kumara2-1.stu.rpi.edu [128.113.199.139]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA98650 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:44:50 -0500 From: "A Kumar" To: "List Thinkpad" Subject: RE: IBM customer service address (*not* e-address) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:47:53 -0500 Message-ID: <000201bf278b$f9e735c0$8bc77180@kumara2-1.stu.rpi.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003701bf274a$4364b5c0$6c3e6420@math.hawaii.edu> List-Unsubscribe: Disgruntled customer on the attack ;) We to say I am disappointed in the way IBM handled my case would be an understatement so I might as well pass along some phone numbers. I letter addressed to: Louis V. Gerstner, Jr International Business Machines Corporation New Orchard Road Armonk, NY 10504 914-499-4711 -> phone number for executive customer service Okay here we go you can reach Pam Blue-Tomson of executive customer service directly at: (919) 517-0552 -> Fax (919) 517-0871 -> Phone > -----Original Message----- > From: David Ross [mailto:ross@math.hawaii.edu] > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 11:57 PM > To: ThinkPad List > Subject: IBM customer service address (*not* e-address) > > > Does anyone have the street address for IBM Customer Service? I > know this exists - I had a correspondence with "executive customer > service" a few years ago - but it now seems to be > a trade secret, i.e. I cannot find it on any of their web sites > and none of the disembodied voices at > the end of the various IBM phone numbers I called today were able > or willing to give me the information. (If necessary I will try > to find my old files - currently in storage - but I'm hoping > someone here has the info already.) > > Thanks, > David R. > ross@math.hawaii.edu > > From cph Fri Nov 5 11:11:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA05648 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:11:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28435; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:08:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:06:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28259; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:06:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from web205.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28246; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:06:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from web205.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.105 -> web205.mail.yahoo.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:06:37 -0500 Message-ID: <19991105161512.17420.rocketmail@web205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.215.86.109] by web205.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 05 Nov 1999 08:15:12 PST Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:15:12 -0800 (PST) From: Pencetera Reply-To: mike@pencetera.com Subject: Thinkpad 760ELD and 4.3Gb not getting along To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Thank you for the answer, I kind of figured it might be something like the cabling. My question now is, which pins need to be shorted? Pins 1&2 or 3&4? Keep in mind also that the drive itself shows no pins designate it as drive 0. On my cable, pin 1&2 are the right most pins while 3&4 are right next to them. Pins 5&6 are not used. Can I just solder the backside of the connector to short the necessary pins? Thanks in advance, Mike B. ===== http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From cph Fri Nov 5 14:15:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA07549 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:15:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13297; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:13:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:12:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13162; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13130; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:12:21 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA11744; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:12:13 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001e01bf27c1$9e11c7c0$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "A Kumar" Cc: "ThinkPad List" References: <000201bf278b$f9e735c0$8bc77180@kumara2-1.stu.rpi.edu> Subject: Re: IBM customer service address (*not* e-address) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:11:50 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Thank you. I'm not exactly disgruntled - yet; it is just that my case was in the process of elevation last January when I left the US, and I do not want to start at square one now that I am back and ready to recommence the struggle. I suppose sending to Gerstner and mentioning my problems with finding an address for customer service might provoke a change in their web design! - David R. ----- Original Message ----- From: A Kumar To: List Thinkpad Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 2:47 AM Subject: RE: IBM customer service address (*not* e-address) > Disgruntled customer on the attack ;) > We to say I am disappointed in the way IBM handled my case would be an > understatement so I might as well pass along some phone numbers. > > I letter addressed to: > Louis V. Gerstner, Jr > International Business Machines Corporation > New Orchard Road > Armonk, NY 10504 > > 914-499-4711 -> phone number for executive customer service > > Okay here we go you can reach Pam Blue-Tomson of executive customer service > directly at: > (919) 517-0552 -> Fax > (919) 517-0871 -> Phone > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Ross [mailto:ross@math.hawaii.edu] > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 11:57 PM > > To: ThinkPad List > > Subject: IBM customer service address (*not* e-address) > > > > > > Does anyone have the street address for IBM Customer Service? I > > know this exists - I had a correspondence with "executive customer > > service" a few years ago - but it now seems to be > > a trade secret, i.e. I cannot find it on any of their web sites > > and none of the disembodied voices at > > the end of the various IBM phone numbers I called today were able > > or willing to give me the information. (If necessary I will try > > to find my old files - currently in storage - but I'm hoping > > someone here has the info already.) > > > > Thanks, > > David R. > > ross@math.hawaii.edu > > > > > > From cph Fri Nov 5 15:54:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA08572 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:54:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20610; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:53:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:52:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20517; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:52:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20497; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:52:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (171.64.14.23 -> smtp2.Stanford.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:52:20 -0500 Received: from leland.stanford.edu (banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.66.3.116]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3/L) with ESMTP id MAA28675 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:52:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38234436.EB07C8CA@leland.stanford.edu> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 12:55:18 -0800 From: Benjamin Koh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: IBM customer service address (*not* e-address) References: <000201bf278b$f9e735c0$8bc77180@kumara2-1.stu.rpi.edu> <001e01bf27c1$9e11c7c0$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I am also in a struggle with customer service. I bought an extended warranty last month for my (refurb)560X, and I've been trying to activate it since the package arrived. The sales department insists it sold me the right package, the activation department insists their computers won't register it, and the warranty department is handled by an answering machine (really! nobody seems to know the answer, and they eventually transfer me to someone's voice mail. I never get a phone or email response). If anyone knows whether or not refurbished machines *do* qualify for extended warranties, please let me know. Otherwise I'm going to write to Lou and reserve a few choice words for the hierarchy of IBM customer service. Benjamin David Ross wrote: > > Thank you. > > I'm not exactly disgruntled - yet; it is just that my case was in the process of elevation last January > when I left the US, and I do not want to start at square one now that I am back and ready to recommence the struggle. > > I suppose sending to Gerstner and mentioning my problems with finding an address for customer service might provoke a change in > their web design! > > - David R. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: A Kumar > To: List Thinkpad > Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 2:47 AM > Subject: RE: IBM customer service address (*not* e-address) > > > Disgruntled customer on the attack ;) > > We to say I am disappointed in the way IBM handled my case would be an > > understatement so I might as well pass along some phone numbers. > > > > I letter addressed to: > > Louis V. Gerstner, Jr > > International Business Machines Corporation > > New Orchard Road > > Armonk, NY 10504 > > > > 914-499-4711 -> phone number for executive customer service > > > > Okay here we go you can reach Pam Blue-Tomson of executive customer service > > directly at: > > (919) 517-0552 -> Fax > > (919) 517-0871 -> Phone > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: David Ross [mailto:ross@math.hawaii.edu] > > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 11:57 PM > > > To: ThinkPad List > > > Subject: IBM customer service address (*not* e-address) > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have the street address for IBM Customer Service? I > > > know this exists - I had a correspondence with "executive customer > > > service" a few years ago - but it now seems to be > > > a trade secret, i.e. I cannot find it on any of their web sites > > > and none of the disembodied voices at > > > the end of the various IBM phone numbers I called today were able > > > or willing to give me the information. (If necessary I will try > > > to find my old files - currently in storage - but I'm hoping > > > someone here has the info already.) > > > > > > Thanks, > > > David R. > > > ross@math.hawaii.edu > > > > > > > > > > From cph Fri Nov 5 16:04:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA08661 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 16:04:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21565; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 16:02:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 16:02:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21490; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 16:02:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21478; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 16:02:19 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5 -> imo15.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 16:02:19 -0500 Received: from JEShoemaker@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id uLJTa03805 (4212); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 16:02:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.9565b483.25549fd3@aol.com> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 16:02:11 EST Subject: Re: IBM customer service address (*not* e-address) To: benkoh@leland.stanford.edu CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 05/11/99 3:53:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, benkoh@leland.Stanford.EDU writes: > If anyone knows whether or not refurbished machines *do* qualify for > extended warranties, please let me know. IBM charge me $240 last march for a 1-yr extended warranty on my 560e (2640-30U/4Y1). My documents suggest directing all inquires and correspondence to: IBM Corporation 4800 Falls of the Neuse Road Raleigh, NC 27609 or: PO Box 29554 Raleigh, NC 27626 Hope that's helpful ... John From cph Fri Nov 5 17:11:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA09185 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:11:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26708; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:10:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:09:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26614; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:09:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.idec.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26597; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:09:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.idec.net (194.179.48.11 -> mail.idecnet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:09:47 -0500 Received: from franmovil (acceso-52.mad.idec.net [195.53.121.83]) by mail.idec.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA11303; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:08:55 GMT Message-ID: <006501bf27d9$b7a518a0$537935c3@franmovil> From: "fran" To: "Keith Wong" , "thinkpad list" References: <38222CA7.6D3E9FFB@lava.net> Subject: RE: still can't find a dock II adapter Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 23:04:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: >FROM SPAIN Madrid intenta en este sitio 50$ http://www.svconn.com/svc/accessories1.html FRAN mengibar@idecnet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Wong To: thinkpad list Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 2:02 AM Subject: still can't find a dock II adapter > > -- I tried SRS industries for a dock II adapter for my TP 701(ever > notice that Beavis and Butthead have a different meaning for "TP"?) but > they were sold out. =( Does anyone else have a lead as to where to get > one? Bill from SRS gave me a couple of other sources but one wanted > $169 and the other $100. Man I am so bummed out I didn't pick one up > when they were selling for $25 a pop. Thanks one and all. > > --Keith Wong > Honolulu, Hawaii > > From cph Fri Nov 5 17:28:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA09345 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:28:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27638; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:27:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:27:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27566; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:27:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from cpcug.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27553; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:27:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from cpcug.org (205.197.248.25 -> cpcug.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:27:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (emahar@localhost) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA23715; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:25:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:25:33 -0500 (EST) From: Ellen Mahar To: fran cc: Keith Wong , thinkpad list Subject: RE: still can't find a dock II adapter In-Reply-To: <006501bf27d9$b7a518a0$537935c3@franmovil> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: q On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, fran wrote: > FROM SPAIN Madrid > > intenta en este sitio 50$ > http://www.svconn.com/svc/accessories1.html > > FRAN mengibar@idecnet.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Keith Wong > To: thinkpad list > Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 2:02 AM > Subject: still can't find a dock II adapter > > > > > > -- I tried SRS industries for a dock II adapter for my TP 701(ever > > notice that Beavis and Butthead have a different meaning for "TP"?) but > > they were sold out. =( Does anyone else have a lead as to where to get > > one? Bill from SRS gave me a couple of other sources but one wanted > > $169 and the other $100. Man I am so bummed out I didn't pick one up > > when they were selling for $25 a pop. Thanks one and all. > > > > --Keith Wong > > Honolulu, Hawaii > > > > > From cph Fri Nov 5 20:11:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA10545 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:11:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06445; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:11:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:09:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06224; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:09:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from onlink4.onlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06207; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:08:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from onlink4.onlink.net (206.108.253.68 -> onlink4.onlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:08:58 -0500 Received: from nrba1-53.onlink.net (nrba1-53.onlink.net [207.210.99.85]) by onlink4.onlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA66384 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:08:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199911060108.UAA66384@onlink4.onlink.net> From: "Alex Bell" To: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 20:06:33 +0000 Reply-To: "Alex Bell" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP 385XD Monitor parameters List-Unsubscribe: I understand that I need to know the 'horizontal sync range and vertical sync range' of my computer's monitor to be able to configure an XFree86 Server. Can anyone tell me please what these are for a ThinkPad 385XD? Or where I can find out? These values are not mentioned in the computer's manual From cph Fri Nov 5 20:23:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA10636 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:23:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07204; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:22:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:21:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07048; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:20:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07034; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:20:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.62 -> snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:20:56 -0500 Received: from ricochet.net (pool0248.cvx32-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.157.248]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07668; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:20:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38238272.132E9CA3@ricochet.net> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 17:20:50 -0800 From: mike X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Bell CC: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: TP 385XD Monitor parameters References: <199911060108.UAA66384@onlink4.onlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Alex Bell wrote: > > I understand that I need to know the 'horizontal sync range and > vertical sync range' of my computer's monitor to be able to configure > an XFree86 Server. Can anyone tell me please what these are for a > ThinkPad 385XD? Or where I can find out? These values are not > mentioned in the computer's manual Try using Xconfigurator it has a better interface. Also you need to know how much video ram and monitor type. You can find that info if you go to, START, settings, control panels, system than device manager. Mike From cph Fri Nov 5 20:28:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA10672 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:28:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07584; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:28:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:26:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07374; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:26:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07359; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:26:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:26:25 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA13320; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:26:12 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <009e01bf27f5$dd6f6880$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Alex Bell" , "Thinkpad Mailing List" References: <199911060108.UAA66384@onlink4.onlink.net> Subject: Re: TP 385XD Monitor parameters Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:25:50 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I cannot recommend too highly skipping the Xfree configure utilities and using a config file for your notebook that someone else has already sweated over. For example, I found http://spacenetindia.com/tech/linuxthinkpad/ which is specifically for the 385XD. (There are probably a dozen others out there in netland for this machine; some might be better.) - David R. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Bell To: Thinkpad Mailing List Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 10:06 AM Subject: TP 385XD Monitor parameters > I understand that I need to know the 'horizontal sync range and > vertical sync range' of my computer's monitor to be able to configure > an XFree86 Server. Can anyone tell me please what these are for a > ThinkPad 385XD? Or where I can find out? These values are not > mentioned in the computer's manual > > > > From cph Fri Nov 5 22:06:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA11265 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:06:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11332; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:06:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:04:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11108; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:04:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11095; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:04:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (24.2.1.66 -> ha1.rdc1.il.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:04:20 -0500 Received: from randolph ([24.10.171.176]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19991106030413.TWLS5192.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@randolph> for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 19:04:13 -0800 From: "Richard Robbins" To: Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:59:20 -0600 Message-ID: <000001bf2802$ec938640$c9fbb7c6@tinker.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: IBM has announced a second version of the Thinkpad 240 with a 366 MHz processor in place of the 300 MHz processor in the first model. Does anyone have any sense of what the impact on battery life of having the faster processor will be? The faster processor would be nice, but the battery life on this model is less than spectacular already. I'm having a hard time deciding if it makes sense to wait or if it would be better to take the current model. What do you think? -- Rich From cph Fri Nov 5 23:33:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA11599 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 23:33:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14403; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 23:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 23:30:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14289; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 23:30:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.ev1.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14276; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 23:30:26 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mail2.ev1.net (207.218.192.2) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 23:30:27 -0500 Received: from p350 [207.218.217.164] by mail2.ev1.net (SMTPD32-5.04) id AF6E39C00E4; Fri, 05 Nov 1999 22:32:46 CDT Message-ID: <006701bf280e$f5ca6b00$a4d9dacf@p350> To: , Cc: References: <0.6229986a.2553775c@aol.com> Subject: Re: removing power on password Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:25:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: If all you want to do is remove the old password, you don't need to go into EZ-Setup. Instead, simply boot up and at the password prompt: - enter the password follow by one space - then press enter. That's it. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 5:57 PM Subject: Re: removing power on password > In a message dated 04/11/99 6:50:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, > mike760@ricochet.net writes: > > > First of all I own this computer and I do know the password. I am selling > > this so I want to remove the password. Would anyone know how I do that? > > Mike, > > To change the ThinkPad passwords read this site: > > http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/YAST-3JZNDP > > 1. Boot while holding down f1 > > 2. When it asks for the password, > - enter password > - hit spacebar once > - hit ENTER > > 3. When EasySetup comes up, change the password. > > 4. Or, hit ESC to have NO password. > > Sorry ... the lst URL that I send dealt with the Supervisor > Password. > > John > From cph Sat Nov 6 00:36:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA11854 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:36:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17085; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:35:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:33:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16959; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:33:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16949; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:33:41 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.41 -> imo-d09.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:33:41 -0500 Received: from SOLM96@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id oXUK0qSlYW (4262) for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:33:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.4421a0e8.255517b1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:33:37 EST Subject: 730T To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 List-Unsubscribe: I recently bought a IBM 730T and the operating system is trash . I wanna know if anyone knows how i can reformat and reload pen services and windows 95 and where i can find the software. I have tried IBM and they been no help. All they do is derect me somwhere else. I hope some one can help. Thanks Dennis SOLM96@aol.com From cph Sat Nov 6 01:10:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA11922 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:10:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18322; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:09:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:08:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18164; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:08:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from onondaga.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18134; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:08:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from onondaga.gate.net (198.206.134.31 -> onondaga.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:08:25 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-33.gate.net [207.36.212.33]) by onondaga.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA380802 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:01:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3823C5E3.EA73837C@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 01:08:36 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 760ELD and 4.3Gb not getting along References: <19991105161512.17420.rocketmail@web205.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: for cable select, jumper the two pins nearest the green PWB.. (of pins 1,2,3 & 4) thus: _ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . please take note of the "key" position.. the drive address pins are the foru at the left end.. the "_" indicates the pair to short for cable select.. :-) for a look at what to do, there are PDF format directions on the IBM web site.. under storage, naturally.. yes, you can short the pins on the connector.. note that those connectors are not indestructible, therefore be careful happy tinkering.. :-) Pencetera wrote: > Thank you for the answer, I kind of figured it might > be something like the cabling. My question now is, > which pins need to be shorted? Pins 1&2 or 3&4? Keep > in mind also that the drive itself shows no pins > designate it as drive 0. > > On my cable, pin 1&2 are the right most pins while 3&4 > are right next to them. Pins 5&6 are not used. Can I > just solder the backside of the connector to short the > necessary pins? > > Thanks in advance, > Mike B. > > ===== > http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: http://www.roadwarriortrading.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i just don't care.. :-) From cph Sat Nov 6 01:10:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA11921 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:10:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18326; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:09:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:08:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18133; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:08:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18117; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:08:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (165.87.194.252 -> out1.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:08:22 -0500 Received: from oscar ([32.100.143.189]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <1999110606081925203t00ame>; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 06:08:20 +0000 Message-ID: <004501bf281d$7c557080$bd8f6420@oscar> Reply-To: "Tom Franklin" From: "Tom Franklin" To: , References: <19991105161512.17420.rocketmail@web205.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 760ELD and 4.3Gb not getting along Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 23:09:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: I'm not exactly sure. You will have to study the specs. I believe master is all select pins open. So you will have to cut wires in the cable or cut pins. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pencetera To: Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 9:15 AM Subject: Thinkpad 760ELD and 4.3Gb not getting along > Thank you for the answer, I kind of figured it might > be something like the cabling. My question now is, > which pins need to be shorted? Pins 1&2 or 3&4? Keep > in mind also that the drive itself shows no pins > designate it as drive 0. > > On my cable, pin 1&2 are the right most pins while 3&4 > are right next to them. Pins 5&6 are not used. Can I > just solder the backside of the connector to short the > necessary pins? > > Thanks in advance, > Mike B. > > > ===== > http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > From cph Sat Nov 6 10:35:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA13310 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:35:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13557; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:34:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:31:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13382; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:30:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13368; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:30:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (216.32.181.17 -> law2-f17.hotmail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:30:52 -0500 Received: (qmail 68422 invoked by uid 0); 6 Nov 1999 15:30:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19991106153051.68421.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.15.93.89 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 06 Nov 1999 07:30:51 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.15.93.89] From: "Rat Boy" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: DOS and 600E Modem Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 07:30:51 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Hi Everyone, I sometimes run a very simple old DOS program on my 600E. The DOS program is a database of associates and their telephone numbers. The DOS program can dial the phone number and put me in touch with people. The problem I am having is the MWave modem in my 600E seems to lock up and stop responding if, for example, nobody answers and I disconnect the call. The only way to get the modem to work again, in this application, is to power off the computer and power on again. The MWave modem works fine with all Windows programs. Any ideas on why it may be locking up with this DOS program? Is there some string I could somehow put in there to make it work? I ask because the DOS program is old, but so elegant, nothing surpasses it in it's niche. Jimmy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cph Sat Nov 6 11:27:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA13523 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:27:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15318; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:26:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:24:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15184; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:24:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15171; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:24:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (194.100.0.7 -> lohi.clinet.fi) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:24:35 -0500 Received: from tp701 (255-28.dyn.clinet.fi [194.100.255.28]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA28266 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 18:25:15 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199911061625.SAA28266@lohi.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 18:23:54 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991104224000.00be6c60@pilot.msu.edu> Subject: Re: Thinkpad i Series DVD Player Question X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.69 List-Unsubscribe: FWIW, there's a small utility that lets you change the region code on the ThinkPad 770 DVD drive: http://www.codefree.com/dvd_dvdrom.htm Unfortunately, the utility is specific to the 770 DVD drive (I asked the author). However, the author also told me it probably wouldn't be too difficult to make a similar one for the 600E (I asked about that particular model because it's the one I'm currently interested in), because he said the DVD configuration programs usually give you 5 chances to change the region code, which should be sufficient to find out what happens. I can only agree with you about the idiocy of the region code. Dominique On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 at 10:40 PM you, "STeve Andre'" , said: >Other than the *idiotic* Region restrictions on not being able to change >your region code, I know of no problems using a CD on a DVD player. >The region idiocy is that once you've set your region (reg 1 is NA) you >can't reset it without reloading the operating system, so says IBM. From cph Sat Nov 6 13:29:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA13840 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:29:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19407; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:28:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:26:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19287; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot007.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19273; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:26:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot007.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.107 -> pilot007.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:26:42 -0500 Received: from andres (pm454-23.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.225]) by pilot007.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA41974 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:26:39 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991106132556.00aea720@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 13:25:56 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: DOS and 600E Modem In-Reply-To: <19991106153051.68421.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Without having seen the code, but remembering how the old DOS programs used to grab things like hardware by the throat, I'll bet that your program talks directly to the hardware, bypassing the "proper" interrupt code. In the case of the modem, the fastest way to move data was to talk with the hardware at 0x3f8 and 0x2f8, manipulating the status registers directly. By manipulating the modem hardware in the "right" way I'll bet that you could confuse the MWwave modem--put it in a strange state that it can't deal with, and gets stuck 'till the next reboot. If you studied something like the old IBM AT Technical Reference manual, I'll bet you could write a little 10 line assembley language program that would reset the modem. That is, *if* it really looks like a COM1 or COMx device. I wrote such a program back in 1985. A cursory glance at my code archives shows nothing, so perhaps I did it on a contract basis. Sigh. Ah, the days of DOS when people had such intimacy with their hardware... --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 07:30 AM 11/6/1999 PST, Rat Boy wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >I sometimes run a very simple old DOS program on my 600E. The DOS program >is a database of associates and their telephone numbers. The DOS program >can dial the phone number and put me in touch with people. The problem I am >having is the MWave modem in my 600E seems to lock up and stop responding >if, for example, nobody answers and I disconnect the call. The only way to >get the modem to work again, in this application, is to power off the >computer and power on again. > >The MWave modem works fine with all Windows programs. Any ideas on why it >may be locking up with this DOS program? Is there some string I could >somehow put in there to make it work? I ask because the DOS program is old, >but so elegant, nothing surpasses it in it's niche. > >Jimmy From cph Sat Nov 6 13:36:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA13858 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:36:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19819; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:35:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:32:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19656; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:32:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19643; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:32:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.123 -> swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:32:55 -0500 Received: from thinkpad760xl (sdn-ar-017casfrMP146.dialsprint.net [158.252.221.148]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA14072 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:32:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000501bf2885$4dba9c60$94ddfc9e@thinkpad760xl> From: "mike" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: TP760xl and sound Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:32:01 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Hello All, I have a 760xl. Just installed DaynaCommunicardE sw for my pcmcia ethernet card. Now my sound does not work. I get the exclamation mark. But it does not show any conflicts. I think dos has to load the driver before it works. But not sure. Anyone, have a clue as to what I can do to get it to work again? BTW, I am running w95. Thanks, Mike From cph Sat Nov 6 14:17:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA14012 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:17:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21081; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:16:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:13:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20949; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:13:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20936; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:13:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (192.134.240.50 -> uhbhic.uhb.fr) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:13:44 -0500 Received: from tp-770 (cb1349.uhb.fr [192.134.240.49]) by uhbhic.uhb.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with SMTP id UAA28882 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:13:40 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38247FE6.8B0@uhb.fr> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 20:22:14 +0100 From: Sylvestre Meininger X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: "The Matrix" DVD trouble on TP 770ED Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: HI. Did anyone experience these problems while playing a DVD title : - Can't access some of the Disc features (language selection, extra features) - Bad synch between image and sound - Some short scenes play twice I have Win95-2, DirectX 7, Zoran's SoftDVD and all newest drivers from IBM's web site. BTW, all other titles play OK. Thanks ! From cph Sat Nov 6 15:55:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA14255 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 15:55:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24043; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 15:54:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 15:52:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23930; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 15:52:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23917; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 15:52:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.200.246 -> smtp10.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 15:52:14 -0500 Received: from ati-ga12-05.ix.netcom.com (ati-ga12-05.ix.netcom.com [207.95.118.197]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA26956 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 15:52:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911062052.PAA26956@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> From: "Allan" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 15:52:41 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <19991106153051.68421.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: DOS and 600E Modem List-Unsubscribe: I encounter this problem with any internal modem and Windose, including Mwave. How does the program tell the modem to disconnect? Sounds like it is not a clean break. On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 07:30:51 PST, Rat Boy wrote: >I sometimes run a very simple old DOS program on my 600E. The DOS program >is a database of associates and their telephone numbers. The DOS program >can dial the phone number and put me in touch with people. The problem I am >having is the MWave modem in my 600E seems to lock up and stop responding >if, for example, nobody answers and I disconnect the call. The only way to >get the modem to work again, in this application, is to power off the >computer and power on again. From cph Sat Nov 6 17:00:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA14430 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:00:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06075; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 16:59:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 16:57:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05568; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 16:57:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05554; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 16:57:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.22 -> hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 16:57:10 -0500 Received: from ricochet.net (pool0159.cvx32-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.157.159]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29515 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:57:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3824A42E.5F02D678@ricochet.net> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 13:57:02 -0800 From: mike X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: TP760xl and sound References: <000501bf2885$4dba9c60$94ddfc9e@thinkpad760xl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: mike wrote: > > Hello All, > > I have a 760xl. Just installed DaynaCommunicardE sw for my pcmcia ethernet > card. Now my sound does not work. I get the exclamation mark. But it does > not show any conflicts. I think dos has to load the driver before it works. > But not sure. Anyone, have a clue as to what I can do to get it to work > again? BTW, I am running w95. > Ok this is what is happening. I can delete the sound card from the device manager. Than when I restart it will load and work. BUT, when I shut down and restart again the driver won't load. Anyone have a clue? Thanks, Mike From cph Sat Nov 6 17:31:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA14552 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:31:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13815; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:30:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:28:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13645; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:28:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from pima.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13632; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:28:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from pima.gate.net (198.206.134.30 -> pima.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:28:30 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-499.gate.net [199.227.173.245]) by pima.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA171356 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:20:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3824AB9B.1299032D@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 17:28:43 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: not the proper venue, BUT - someone posted a fix to load win98SE over win98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: someone posted a fix to load win98SE over win98 or win95 when you get the error message that there is already an OS present.. -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: http://www.roadwarriortrading.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i just don't care.. :-) From cph Sat Nov 6 17:39:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA14591 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:39:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14191; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:38:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:37:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14055; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:37:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pima.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14042; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:37:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pima.gate.net (198.206.134.30 -> pima.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:37:02 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-499.gate.net [199.227.173.245]) by pima.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA08442; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:29:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3824AD9A.543492D9@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 17:37:15 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rat Boy CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: DOS and 600E Modem References: <19991106153051.68421.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: no fix from me either, but are you running the DOS app from DOS or from a DOS window..? in any event, try it the alternate way.. :-) if you have not done so already.. Rat Boy wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I sometimes run a very simple old DOS program on my 600E. The DOS program > is a database of associates and their telephone numbers. The DOS program > can dial the phone number and put me in touch with people. The problem I am > having is the MWave modem in my 600E seems to lock up and stop responding > if, for example, nobody answers and I disconnect the call. The only way to > get the modem to work again, in this application, is to power off the > computer and power on again. > > The MWave modem works fine with all Windows programs. Any ideas on why it > may be locking up with this DOS program? Is there some string I could > somehow put in there to make it work? I ask because the DOS program is old, > but so elegant, nothing surpasses it in it's niche. > > Jimmy > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: http://www.roadwarriortrading.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i just don't care.. :-) From cph Sat Nov 6 17:44:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA14616 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:44:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14470; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:43:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:41:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14364; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:41:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from pima.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14351; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:41:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from pima.gate.net (198.206.134.30 -> pima.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:41:33 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-499.gate.net [199.227.173.245]) by pima.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA138948; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:33:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3824AE9B.73AA8135@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 17:41:31 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ellen Mahar CC: fran , Keith Wong , thinkpad list Subject: Re: still can't find a dock II adapter References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: aside from the butthead connection, i have a friend/customer in the UK who is selling his dock-2 and the 701 to dock2 adapter.. if you wish his e-mail address, send me e-mail to bill@thinkpads.com :-) Ellen Mahar wrote: > q > > On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, fran wrote: > > > FROM SPAIN Madrid > > > > intenta en este sitio 50$ > > http://www.svconn.com/svc/accessories1.html > > > > FRAN mengibar@idecnet.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Keith Wong > > To: thinkpad list > > Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 2:02 AM > > Subject: still can't find a dock II adapter > > > > > > > > > > -- I tried SRS industries for a dock II adapter for my TP 701(ever > > > notice that Beavis and Butthead have a different meaning for "TP"?) but > > > they were sold out. =( Does anyone else have a lead as to where to get > > > one? Bill from SRS gave me a couple of other sources but one wanted > > > $169 and the other $100. Man I am so bummed out I didn't pick one up > > > when they were selling for $25 a pop. Thanks one and all. > > > > > > --Keith Wong > > > Honolulu, Hawaii > > > > > > > > -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: http://www.roadwarriortrading.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i just don't care.. :-) From cph Sat Nov 6 19:53:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA15003 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:53:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18689; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:52:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:50:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18584; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from xnor.engin.umich.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18571; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:50:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from xnor.engin.umich.edu (141.213.42.36 -> xnor.engin.umich.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:50:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (arteitle@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xnor.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA05943 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:50:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:50:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701C loses left audio channel after suspend Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I find that when my 701C running Windows 95 OSR2.1 resumes after being suspended, the left channel of audio is always silent, and no amout of tinkering with the built-in mute and volume controls, nor the volume and balance controls in Windows, will reactivate it. The right channel still works fine, however, and the left returns if I restart the computer. Does anyone else have this problem, and/or any ideas for fixing it? Thanks in advance, Aaron Teitlebaum arteitle@engin.umich.edu From cph Sat Nov 6 20:36:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA15140 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:36:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20535; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:35:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:34:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20427; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:34:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.zebra.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20414; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:34:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.zebra.net (209.12.13.2 -> mail.zebra.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:34:09 -0500 Received: from PROXIM ([209.12.153.239]) by mail.zebra.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id net for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:27:50 -0600 Message-ID: <000b01bf28af$88224b80$0a0a0a0a@PROXIM> From: bwjones@zebra.net (Bryan Jones) To: Subject: Re: 730T Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:34:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Dennis, Go to http://www.globalmonitor.com/730Tos.html There's plenty of info there to help you. Bryan Jones -----Original Message----- From: SOLM96@aol.com To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Friday, November 05, 1999 11:29 PM Subject: 730T >I recently bought a IBM 730T and the operating system is trash . I wanna >know if anyone knows how i can reformat and reload pen services and windows >95 and where i can find the software. I have tried IBM and they been no >help. All they do is derect me somwhere else. I hope some one can help. > >Thanks Dennis > >SOLM96@aol.com > From cph Sat Nov 6 21:46:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA15295 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:46:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23306; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:45:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:43:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23163; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:43:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23150; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:43:45 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mill.cisco.com (161.44.200.11 -> mill.cisco.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:43:46 -0500 Received: from mill.cisco.com (mill.cisco.com [161.44.200.11]) by mill.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA07626; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:43:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:43:06 -0500 (EST) To: Sylvestre Meininger cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: "The Matrix" DVD trouble on TP 770ED In-Reply-To: <38247FE6.8B0@uhb.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Actually, I just read a story on (I believe it was) CNN that The Matrix's release, as well as other releases that have PC-related features as well, have some hiccups. So, it's not just you -- it's the disk. Sorry! -Ken On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Sylvestre Meininger wrote: > Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 20:22:14 +0100 > From: Sylvestre Meininger > To: ThinkPad Mailing List > Subject: "The Matrix" DVD trouble on TP 770ED > > HI. > > Did anyone experience these problems while playing a DVD title : > > - Can't access some of the Disc features (language selection, extra > features) > - Bad synch between image and sound > - Some short scenes play twice > > I have Win95-2, DirectX 7, Zoran's SoftDVD and all newest drivers from > IBM's web site. > > BTW, all other titles play OK. > > Thanks ! > > From cph Sat Nov 6 21:56:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA15338 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:56:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23759; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:55:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:54:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23639; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:54:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from edtnps05.telusplanet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23624; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:54:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from edtnps05.telusplanet.net (198.161.157.105 -> edtnps05.telusplanet.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:54:06 -0500 Received: from clgr000018.hs.telusplanet.net ([161.184.80.18]:61698 "HELO geza770x.sivco.com") by smtp2.telusplanet.net with SMTP id ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:56:42 -0700 From: Geza Szivos/SIVCO Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:53:36 -0700 To: kend@cisco.com cc: Sylvestre Meininger , ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: "The Matrix" DVD trouble on TP 770ED Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: My Matrix DVD was forced me to install a bunch of software before I was able to play it. (I did NOT allow to go out to the internet and download other stuff) It does play the CD properly now. North American Region ; but from the second shipment. Geza Szivos kend@cisco.com on 11/06/99 07:43:06 PM To: Sylvestre Meininger cc: ThinkPad Mailing List FaxTo: Subject: Re: "The Matrix" DVD trouble on TP 770ED Actually, I just read a story on (I believe it was) CNN that The Matrix's release, as well as other releases that have PC-related features as well, have some hiccups. So, it's not just you -- it's the disk. Sorry! -Ken On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Sylvestre Meininger wrote: > Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 20:22:14 +0100 > From: Sylvestre Meininger > To: ThinkPad Mailing List > Subject: "The Matrix" DVD trouble on TP 770ED > > HI. > > Did anyone experience these problems while playing a DVD title : > > - Can't access some of the Disc features (language selection, extra > features) > - Bad synch between image and sound > - Some short scenes play twice > > I have Win95-2, DirectX 7, Zoran's SoftDVD and all newest drivers from > IBM's web site. > > BTW, all other titles play OK. > > Thanks ! > > From cph Sun Nov 7 01:02:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA15843 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 01:02:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29614; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 01:01:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 00:59:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29362; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 00:59:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from osage.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29349; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 00:59:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from osage.gate.net (198.206.134.25 -> osage.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 00:59:23 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-499.gate.net [199.227.173.245]) by osage.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA74018; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 00:58:54 -0500 Message-ID: <38251542.43CA0C2B@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 00:59:30 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701C loses left audio channel after suspend References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The 701 has only one speaker and, to my knowledge, only mono, not stereo.. :-) "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" wrote: > I find that when my 701C running Windows 95 OSR2.1 resumes after being > suspended, the left channel of audio is always silent, and no amout of > tinkering with the built-in mute and volume controls, nor the volume and > balance controls in Windows, will reactivate it. The right channel still > works fine, however, and the left returns if I restart the computer. Does > anyone else have this problem, and/or any ideas for fixing it? > > Thanks in advance, > Aaron Teitlebaum > arteitle@engin.umich.edu -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://www.roadwarriortrading.com WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Sun Nov 7 01:23:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA15888 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 01:23:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00526; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 01:22:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 01:20:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00443; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 01:20:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pima.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00429; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 01:20:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from pima.gate.net (198.206.134.30 -> pima.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 01:20:56 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-499.gate.net [199.227.173.245]) by pima.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA500594; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 01:13:09 -0500 Message-ID: <38251A52.6C43FE82@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 01:21:06 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kend@cisco.com CC: Sylvestre Meininger , ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: "The Matrix" DVD trouble on TP 770ED References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I read the same thing in Investors Business Daily.. there is a web site for PC Friendly, a service of InterActual Technologies, Inc. of San Jose the matrix and some other DVD movies have problems.. they SAY its the player, not the DVD movie itself.. kend@cisco.com wrote: > Actually, I just read a story on (I believe it was) CNN that The Matrix's > release, as well as other releases that have PC-related features as well, > have some hiccups. So, it's not just you -- it's the disk. Sorry! > > -Ken > > On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Sylvestre Meininger wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 20:22:14 +0100 > > From: Sylvestre Meininger > > To: ThinkPad Mailing List > > Subject: "The Matrix" DVD trouble on TP 770ED > > > > HI. > > > > Did anyone experience these problems while playing a DVD title : > > > > - Can't access some of the Disc features (language selection, extra > > features) > > - Bad synch between image and sound > > - Some short scenes play twice > > > > I have Win95-2, DirectX 7, Zoran's SoftDVD and all newest drivers from > > IBM's web site. > > > > BTW, all other titles play OK. > > > > Thanks ! > > > > -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://www.roadwarriortrading.com WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Sun Nov 7 02:17:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA15965 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 02:17:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01833; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 02:16:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 02:14:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01714; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 02:14:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ogopogo.flash.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01701; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 02:14:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ogopogo.flash.net (209.30.2.14 -> ogopogo.flash.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 02:14:22 -0500 Received: from s9i5e3 (216-215-89-74.flash.net [216.215.89.74]) by ogopogo.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA14224 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 01:14:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00e501bf28ef$94f8eea0$4a59d7d8@s9i5e3> From: "Tom Collins" To: Subject: Reinstall Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 01:13:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I never had all the TP specific software on my 560X that I had on my 560E. I sold the E and kept the X because it was decked out and has a larger screen. I recently got a PCMCIA CDROM but haven't been able to get it recognized yet. It is running Win95 now and no other problems have cropped up. If I were to upgrade to win98, would the PCMCIA card services be better supported? Is there a compehensive list of the software that IBM put's on TP's? I never have had a manual or backup CD with either the E or the X. TP 560X 2640-60U w/ 3.4 gig, 64 megs ram, pcmcia 56K modem, just bought a PCMCIA CDROM but can't get it running. Thanks, Tom From cph Sun Nov 7 03:56:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA16094 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 03:56:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05820; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 03:55:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 03:53:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05629; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 03:53:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from srvr22.engin.umich.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05616; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 03:53:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from srvr22.engin.umich.edu (141.213.75.21 -> srvr22.engin.umich.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 03:53:53 -0500 Received: from maize.engin.umich.edu (root@maize.engin.umich.edu [141.213.74.23]) by srvr22.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA12928 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 03:53:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (arteitle@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maize.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA11726 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 03:53:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 03:53:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701C loses left audio channel after suspend In-Reply-To: <38251542.43CA0C2B@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: It has only one built-in speaker, but stereo sound (and a stereo headphone output). Aaron Teitlebaum arteitle@engin.umich.edu On Sun, 7 Nov 1999, Bill Morrow wrote: > The 701 has only one speaker and, to my knowledge, only mono, not stereo.. > :-) > > > "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" wrote: > > > I find that when my 701C running Windows 95 OSR2.1 resumes after being > > suspended, the left channel of audio is always silent, and no amout of > > tinkering with the built-in mute and volume controls, nor the volume and > > balance controls in Windows, will reactivate it. The right channel still > > works fine, however, and the left returns if I restart the computer. Does > > anyone else have this problem, and/or any ideas for fixing it? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Aaron Teitlebaum > > arteitle@engin.umich.edu > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://www.roadwarriortrading.com > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > > From cph Sun Nov 7 04:09:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA16123 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 04:09:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06553; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 04:08:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 04:07:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06455; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 04:07:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06442; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 04:07:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 04:07:11 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA01894; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 23:07:04 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001501bf28ff$6a539fa0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Tom Collins" , References: <00e501bf28ef$94f8eea0$4a59d7d8@s9i5e3> Subject: Re: Reinstall Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 23:06:42 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > I never had all the TP specific software on my 560X that I had on my 560E. I > sold the E and kept the X because it was decked out and has a larger screen. > I recently got a PCMCIA CDROM but haven't been able to get it recognized > yet. It is running Win95 now and no other problems have cropped up. TP-specific drivers shouldn't make a difference with a pcmcia CD; the W95 pcmcia services should suffice. Which CD? I tried for a long time to get an off-brand drive to work on my 560, finally gave up and traded it for an IBM, which installed properly in minutes. - David R. From cph Sun Nov 7 08:12:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA26271 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:12:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20303; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:11:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:09:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20188; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:09:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20178; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:09:48 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.40 -> imo-d08.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:09:48 -0500 Received: from JEShoemaker@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id yREF0wGz.I (4566); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:09:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.da4d02bc.2556d413@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:09:39 EST Subject: Re: Reinstall To: tlcoll@flash.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 07/11/99 2:16:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, tlcoll@flash.net writes: > If I were to upgrade to win98, would the PCMCIA card services be > better supported? Probably Tom, but checkout these sites before you upgrade: "Installation and configuration problems with CardWorks for Win95 " http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/PFAN-3T5MUE.html "What's new for Windows 98 on ThinkPads" http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/LWIK-3VJLL8.html > Is there a compehensive list of the software that IBM put's on TP's? Checkout the BIOS and driver updates (including PCMCIA) for 560: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3RYRAK.html Also, you can download softcopy manuals (in Acrobat format) from: ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles You can download a FREE Adobe Acrobat Reader Software at: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readstep.html Hope this helps ... John From cph Sun Nov 7 08:18:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA26286 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:18:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20515; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:17:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:16:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20429; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:16:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20419; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:16:03 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.39 -> imo-d07.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:16:03 -0500 Received: from JEShoemaker@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id yJMVxPUjP_ (4566); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:15:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.98cd473d.2556d58e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:15:58 EST Subject: Re: Reinstall To: tlcoll@flash.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 07/11/99 2:16:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, tlcoll@flash.net writes: > I recently got a PCMCIA CDROM but haven't been able to > get it recognized yet. [snip} Tom, I use a Sony 6x Diskman CD with my 560e without problem. However, the Diskman must be turned ON before booting or it isn't recognized. Just a thought ... John From cph Sun Nov 7 12:37:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA26980 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:37:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27273; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:35:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:33:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27123; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:33:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from osage.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27110; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from osage.gate.net (198.206.134.25 -> osage.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:33:11 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-24.gate.net [207.36.212.24]) by osage.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA39194; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:32:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3825B7E1.50D79C00@icanect.net> Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 12:33:21 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701C loses left audio channel after suspend References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: i should have known that..! :-) but then i never use headphones.. and, looking at the manual for the 701, it sure does say stereo output through the headphone jack.. sorry for the misinformation.. :-) "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" wrote: > It has only one built-in speaker, but stereo sound (and a stereo headphone > output). > > Aaron Teitlebaum > arteitle@engin.umich.edu > > On Sun, 7 Nov 1999, Bill Morrow wrote: > > > The 701 has only one speaker and, to my knowledge, only mono, not stereo.. > > :-) > > > > > > "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" wrote: > > > > > I find that when my 701C running Windows 95 OSR2.1 resumes after being > > > suspended, the left channel of audio is always silent, and no amout of > > > tinkering with the built-in mute and volume controls, nor the volume and > > > balance controls in Windows, will reactivate it. The right channel still > > > works fine, however, and the left returns if I restart the computer. Does > > > anyone else have this problem, and/or any ideas for fixing it? > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Aaron Teitlebaum > > > arteitle@engin.umich.edu > > > > -- > > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://www.roadwarriortrading.com > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > > > > > -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://www.roadwarriortrading.com WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Sun Nov 7 12:47:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA27014 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:47:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27774; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:46:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:45:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27671; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:45:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from grace.speakeasy.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27656; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:45:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from grace.speakeasy.org (216.231.41.3 -> grace.speakeasy.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:45:21 -0500 Received: from 770z (02-086.011.popsite.net [216.126.168.86]) by grace.speakeasy.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA21548; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 09:45:10 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Richard Chalk" To: "Bill Morrow" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: not the proper venue, BUT - someone posted a fix to load win98SE over win98 Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:44:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <3824AB9B.1299032D@icanect.net> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Bill, in previous versions the install program looked for the file "win.com" in the windows directory. Try renaming it (to win.old, or something) and then try install again. Regards, Richard Richard Chalk Vice-President - Sales Phone 770-992-1819 BAF Communications Corp. Fax 770-992-8989 4330 Sprucebough Drive e-mail rchalk@baf-mti.com Marietta, GA 30062 http://www.bafcom.com -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@icanect.net] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 5:29 PM To: ThinkPad List Subject: not the proper venue, BUT - someone posted a fix to load win98SE over win98 someone posted a fix to load win98SE over win98 or win95 when you get the error message that there is already an OS present.. -- Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: http://www.roadwarriortrading.com Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i just don't care.. :-) From cph Sun Nov 7 13:25:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA27158 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:25:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29005; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:24:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:23:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28921; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:23:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28908; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:23:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:23:47 -0500 Received: from mmax56.vramp.net (mmax56.vramp.net [198.138.8.119]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA07371 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:23:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911071823.NAA07371@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:11:09 -0500 Subject: Li-Ion Batts & 755CD Revisited Reply-to: captjhem@waterw.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) List-Unsubscribe: Thanks to all who replied to my initial question pertaining to the Li-Ion batteries I just purchased, especially Bill, Denis and Mark B. (whose junk pile I dream of assaulting someday!). As the consensus of opinion had it, it was a case of getting the completely depleted batteries up to a charge state where the 755 would/could "see" them. I charged both batteries in my recently received Travel Quick Charger and then ran the two 755's to shutdown. Upon re-connecting the 755 to the charger, the charging circuit came on, stayed on and charged the batteries without difficulty. Thanks again to all, James From cph Sun Nov 7 17:01:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA27941 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:01:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07282; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:00:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:59:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07174; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:59:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07161; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:59:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:59:27 -0500 Received: from wald5 (user-37kac2g.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.48.80]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA14117 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:59:23 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: Thinkpad i Series DVD Player Question Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:00:46 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000a01bf273d$431681a0$c9fbb7c6@tinker.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: FWIW, MICROSOFT Encarta on CD pales in comparison to their version on DVD. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Robbins [mailto:rerobbins@home.com] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:24 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad i Series DVD Player Question I'm looking to purchase a new Thinkpad i Series notebook, some of which come with DVD players. I have no reason at present to use a DVD player and was wondering if there was any reason to avoid purchasing a machine with a DVD as opposed to a CD ROM player. Do the DVD drives used in the Thinkpads ever have any problems reading CD ROMs? We use a lot of CD ROMs, primarily reference materials and childrens' software. -- Rich From cph Sun Nov 7 17:48:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA28077 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:48:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01093; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:46:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:46:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01008; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:46:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00995; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:46:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (24.2.1.66 -> ha1.rdc1.il.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:46:28 -0500 Received: from randolph ([24.10.171.176]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19991107223048.EXUH5192.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@randolph>; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 14:30:48 -0800 From: "Richard Robbins" To: "'William Armstrong'" , "'ThinkPad List'" Subject: RE: Thinkpad i Series DVD Player Question Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:20:12 -0600 Message-ID: <000601bf296e$43480d00$c9fbb7c6@tinker.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: But the question is will the DVD player play the CD version properly? -- Rich -----Original Message----- From: William Armstrong [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 4:01 PM To: ThinkPad List Subject: RE: Thinkpad i Series DVD Player Question FWIW, MICROSOFT Encarta on CD pales in comparison to their version on DVD. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Robbins [mailto:rerobbins@home.com] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:24 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad i Series DVD Player Question I'm looking to purchase a new Thinkpad i Series notebook, some of which come with DVD players. I have no reason at present to use a DVD player and was wondering if there was any reason to avoid purchasing a machine with a DVD as opposed to a CD ROM player. Do the DVD drives used in the Thinkpads ever have any problems reading CD ROMs? We use a lot of CD ROMs, primarily reference materials and childrens' software. -- Rich From cph Sun Nov 7 18:22:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA28211 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 18:22:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02655; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 18:21:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 18:20:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02575; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 18:20:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot019.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02562; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 18:20:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot019.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.119 -> pilot019.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 18:20:48 -0500 Received: from andres (port22.annarbor02.tir.com [216.40.151.23]) by pilot019.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA13360 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 18:20:45 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991107180752.00afcaf0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 18:07:52 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: RE: Thinkpad i Series DVD Player Question In-Reply-To: <000601bf296e$43480d00$c9fbb7c6@tinker.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: My experience with an i Series 1472 says that it can deal with CDs just fine. I know of no problems with it playing CDs at all. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 04:20 PM 11/7/1999 -0600, Richard Robbins wrote: >But the question is will the DVD player play the CD version properly? > >-- Rich > >-----Original Message----- >From: William Armstrong [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] >Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 4:01 PM >To: ThinkPad List >Subject: RE: Thinkpad i Series DVD Player Question > > >FWIW, MICROSOFT Encarta on CD pales in comparison to their version on DVD. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Richard Robbins [mailto:rerobbins@home.com] >Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:24 PM >To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Thinkpad i Series DVD Player Question > >I'm looking to purchase a new Thinkpad i Series notebook, some of which come >with DVD players. I have no reason at present to use a DVD player and was >wondering if there was any reason to avoid purchasing a machine with a DVD >as opposed to a CD ROM player. Do the DVD drives used in the Thinkpads ever >have any problems reading CD ROMs? We use a lot of CD ROMs, primarily >reference materials and childrens' software. > >-- Rich > > > From cph Sun Nov 7 23:19:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA29431 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 23:19:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13317; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 23:18:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 23:17:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13232; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 23:17:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13217; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 23:17:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (24.2.1.66 -> ha1.rdc1.il.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 23:17:07 -0500 Received: from randolph ([24.10.171.176]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19991108041704.HIEP5192.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@randolph> for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 20:17:04 -0800 From: "Richard Robbins" To: Subject: Thinkpad i Series 1480 Display Question Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 22:14:55 -0600 Message-ID: <000501bf299f$d0d19c00$c9fbb7c6@tinker.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Can someone confirm whether the Thinkpad i Series 1480 supports 1024 x 768 on the internal display without going into some sort of virtual display mode where you get the additional resolution by having the desktop slide around? -- Rich From cph Mon Nov 8 07:20:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA30950 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:20:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08817; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:18:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:18:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08710; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:18:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot011.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08697; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:18:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot011.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.111 -> pilot011.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:18:06 -0500 Received: from andres (pm453-38.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.192]) by pilot011.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA92164 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:18:04 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991108070116.00af4ec0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 07:01:16 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Thinkpad i Series 1480 Display Question In-Reply-To: <000501bf299f$d0d19c00$c9fbb7c6@tinker.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Yes, the new i Series 1460 and 1480 are XGA 1024x768 screens. My 1451 is such and its great. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 10:14 PM 11/7/1999 -0600, Richard Robbins wrote: >Can someone confirm whether the Thinkpad i Series 1480 supports 1024 x 768 >on the internal display without going into some sort of virtual display mode >where you get the additional resolution by having the desktop slide around? > >-- Rich From cph Mon Nov 8 16:33:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA01967 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:33:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22241; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:28:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:23:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21788; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:23:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21765; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (206.180.224.3 -> tdl.tdl.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:23:07 -0500 Received: from chuck (pm1i-225.tdl.com [206.180.234.225]) by tdl.tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA15127 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 13:23:00 -0800 Message-Id: <199911082123.NAA15127@tdl.tdl.com> From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 13:22:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: 380ED battery Reply-to: cblaisd@tdl.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) List-Unsubscribe: I need a new battery for my ThinkPad 380ED. The LiOn ones that I've seen on a few web sites go from $180-220. But there's also a couple of sites that list a NiMh model for this model for more like $80-90. I know that the LiOn came with the machine, but is there any reason not to use the NiMh one instead? Or does anybody have a good source for the LiOn? Thanks, Chuck Blaisdell From cph Mon Nov 8 16:43:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA02042 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:43:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23083; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:38:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:38:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22990; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:38:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from web219.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22976; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:37:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from web219.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.119 -> web219.mail.yahoo.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:37:56 -0500 Message-ID: <19991108215420.4970.rocketmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.136.144.33] by web219.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 08 Nov 1999 13:54:20 PST Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 13:54:20 -0800 (PST) From: Pencetera Reply-To: mike@pencetera.com Subject: Re: 380ED battery To: cblaisd@tdl.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Don't know of a good source for cheaper LiON batteries but I can tell you that the NiMH batteries will not hold a charge for nearly as long... maybe 70% or thereabouts. They also have memory problems, not nearly as bad as Nicad but not nearly as good as LiON. They will also generate more heat when being used/charged. --- Chuck Blaisdell wrote: > I need a new battery for my ThinkPad 380ED. > > The LiOn ones that I've seen on a few web sites go > from $180-220. > > But there's also a couple of sites that list a NiMh > model for this model for > more like $80-90. > > I know that the LiOn came with the machine, but is > there any reason not > to use the NiMh one instead? > > Or does anybody have a good source for the LiOn? > > Thanks, > > Chuck Blaisdell > > ===== http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From cph Mon Nov 8 17:06:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA02231 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:06:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25512; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:04:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:04:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25439; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:04:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from web208.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25420; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:04:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from web208.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.108 -> web208.mail.yahoo.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:04:21 -0500 Message-ID: <19991108220952.21039.rocketmail@web208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.136.144.33] by web208.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:09:52 PST Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 14:09:52 -0800 (PST) From: Pencetera Reply-To: mike@pencetera.com Subject: Okay, I hope this is it for my 760... To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Thanks to everyone for the help on the 4.3gb drive, it's in and working like a champ.... now it's something else... The pcmcia drivers are screwy in my win98 install. When I check pcmcia socket under device manager it has the following: PCMCIA socket -> PCIC or compatible PCMCIA controller -> PCMCIA Card Services -> PCMCIA Card Services -> Texas Instruments PCI-1130 Cardbus Controller Also, on the pcmcia devices on the taskbar, it shows 3, sometimes 4 pcmcia sockets and doesn't always register a pcmcia card correctly (it won't show the socket as empty but it won't identify what's in the socket). Ocassionally it will list my modem in socket 1 and list it again, as modem #2, in one of the phantom sockets. Anyone know why it would be doing this? Sometimes it lits a second TI controller as well. I've tried deleting just the duplicates but it installs them at the next boot. I've tried deleting them all and letting it reinstall.. but it installs the duplicates as well.... help? --Mike B. ===== http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From cph Mon Nov 8 17:45:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA02548 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:45:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28552; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:40:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27917; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:40:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27795; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (24.112.32.20 -> smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:39:02 -0500 Received: from mail.on.rogers.wave.ca ([24.112.32.4]:46001 "EHLO mail.on.rogers.wave.ca" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <513052-16965>; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:38:06 -0500 Received: from cr394328-a.rchrd1.on.wave.home.com ([24.112.93.189]:3168 "HELO actprod" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mail.on.rogers.wave.ca with SMTP id <324683-1559>; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:38:38 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991108173836.00a55100@mail.netrover.com> X-Sender: nractc03@mail.netrover.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 17:38:36 -0500 To: Bill Morrow From: Tom Trottier Subject: Re: 701C loses left audio channel after suspend Cc: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <38251542.43CA0C2B@icanect.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: But I think it has a stereo headphone jack! Tom At 00:59 1999/11/07 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >The 701 has only one speaker and, to my knowledge, only mono, not stereo.. >:-) >"Aaron R. Teitlebaum" wrote: >> I find that when my 701C running Windows 95 OSR2.1 resumes after being >> suspended, the left channel of audio is always silent, and no amout of >> tinkering with the built-in mute and volume controls, nor the volume and >> balance controls in Windows, will reactivate it. The right channel still >> works fine, however, and the left returns if I restart the computer. Does >> anyone else have this problem, and/or any ideas for fixing it? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Aaron Teitlebaum >> arteitle@engin.umich.edu > >-- >Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) ------------------ From:Tom Trottier, 400 Slater St. Suite 415,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 __o Voice: +1 613 291-1168 fax(no ads, please): 594-5412 _ \< "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein (*)/'(*) TomTrottier@hotmail.com From cph Mon Nov 8 18:58:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA03086 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 18:58:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03433; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 18:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 8 Nov 1999 18:56:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03307; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 18:56:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from rov.berkeley.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03294; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 18:56:48 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from rov.berkeley.edu (128.32.232.45 -> rov.Berkeley.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 8 Nov 1999 18:56:49 -0500 Received: from gamee5.club-i.com by rov.berkeley.edu (NX5.67g/NX3.0M) id AA12765; Mon, 8 Nov 99 16:08:51 -0800 Message-Id: <38BB1913.819F46BA@ricochet.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:55:47 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph Mon Nov 8 19:32:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA03273 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:32:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05538; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:30:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05462; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:30:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAIL01 (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05448; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:30:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAIL01 (206.244.186.11 -> mail.toast.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:30:16 -0500 Received: from ibm6000 - 38.26.5.126 by toast.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:27:37 -0500 Message-ID: <006701bf2a49$2331aae0$7e051a26@ibm6000> From: "Damil Idgaf" To: "Bill Morrow" , "Tom Franklin" Cc: "ThinkPad List" References: <19991103070756.26075.rocketmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> <001d01bf2603$59da4f60$e1906420@oscar> <3820FB75.EAF06B37@icanect.net> Subject: Re: 760ELD and 4.3Gb HD not getting along... Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:12:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: please unsuscribe me Damil ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morrow To: Tom Franklin Cc: ; ThinkPad List Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 10:20 PM Subject: Re: 760ELD and 4.3Gb HD not getting along... > Exactly the problem.. > the spec was reversed several years ago.. > if you use a HDD shell that has an old drive in it, the new drive will be told > that it is a slave and the machine won't see it.. > > you need to isolate the 4 drive select pins from the computer and short the > cable select pins to tell the drive it should look at the cable select pin to > see if it should be master or slave (as in the case of using the drive in the > ultrabay and another drive in the drive bay).. :-) > > Tom Franklin wrote: > > > It has to do with the master/slave settings between those drives. The > > system is setting your new drive as a slave. You may have to cut some wires > > or pins to make it work. Get the data sheets for those drives to see what I > > mean (http://www.storage.ibm.com./hardsoft/diskdrdl/hddprod.htm). Make sure > > you have the lastest BIOS also. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > I obtained an IBM Travelstar DKLA-24320 (4.32Gb) HD to > > > replace the 810Mb drive currently in my 760ELD. I > > > installed the drive in the 810Mb caddy and you could > > > tell the system was seeing the HD as the HD emblem on > > > the LCD panel showed the system spinning the drive. > > > When I went into the bios setup it didn't show a drive > > > and when I booted off a floppy and attempted to fdisk > > > the drive fdisk stated no fixed disk present even > > > though the startup disk told me it didn't find a > > > proper format on the HD. > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas? Could it be the connector for > > > the 810Mb drive isn't compatible with the 4.3Gb or...? > > -- > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com, new site coming: > http://www.roadwarriortrading.com > Thinkpad User Community: http://thinkpads.com/enter.html > Compuserve Thinkpad(c) Forum Sysop, Webmaster http://www.roadwarriortrading.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > use the delete key to avoid unwanted flames, > any mis-spellings are the fault of the spell checker, poor typing skills or i > just don't care.. :-) > > From cph Mon Nov 8 23:32:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA04977 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 23:32:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17531; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 23:31:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 8 Nov 1999 23:29:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17357; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 23:29:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17346; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 23:29:58 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7 -> imo17.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 8 Nov 1999 23:29:58 -0500 Received: from SOLM96@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id oQYKa27645 (2615) for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 23:29:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.25e2020d.2558fd41@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 23:29:53 EST Subject: 730T install disks To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone have a set of IBM 730T installation disks? I also need PenDos and WIN95 all on 3.5 disks or even maybe even download them. I hope someone can help me I really wana get this computer running. Thanks ........Dennis From cph Tue Nov 9 08:32:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA06434 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:32:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17160; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:27:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:26:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17038; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:26:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17024; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:26:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (147.225.51.39 -> mosquito.ny.ans.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:26:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (bkomar@localhost) by mosquito.ny.ans.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id IAA00421; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:26:38 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mosquito.ny.ans.net: bkomar owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:26:38 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Komar X-Sender: bkomar@mosquito.ny.ans.net To: mike760@ricochet.net cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <38BB1913.819F46BA@ricochet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 mike760@ricochet.net wrote: > unsubscribe > > In order to List-Unsubscribe: mailto:thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu Subject=unsubscribe Have a nice day... Bruce Komar From cph Tue Nov 9 12:44:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA07996 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:44:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12917; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:41:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:38:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12502; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:38:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12478; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:38:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (206.31.56.7 -> main.ismi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:38:35 -0500 Received: from denhall (tc5-20.ismi.net [205.216.96.225]) by main.ismi.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id MAA23310; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:38:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00ef01bf2ae1$d5890c40$e160d8cd@denhall> From: "Denis Hall" To: , Subject: PC Card Director Removal for 760 in Win98 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:40:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hi Mike, unless you haven't already found it, I believe you need to use this file to remove extraneous stuffs for using Win98... Here's the link: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/PFAN-3VRTMZ.html?lang=en_US&page=brand&brand =IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+760ED%7C9546%7CU3A&family=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+7 60ED&machineType=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+760ED%7C9546&model=IBM+ThinkPad%7CT hinkPad+760ED%7C9546%7CU3A&doctype=Downloadable+files&subtype=All&up=%25%25q 7X9J7ZCXQ7v23%25VlmV&ut=loginCount%3D74%26productCount%3D2%26lastLoginDate%3 D1999-11-08-23.27.40.000108%26type1%3D9545%26userID%3D%26greeting%3DWelcome% 2Bback%252C%2BMr.%2BHall%26brand%3DIBM%2BThinkPad%26family%3DThinkPad%2B755C D%26model1%3D9BE Have a Great Day, Denis Hall, Michigan 810.229.2881 -----Original Message----- From: Pencetera To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, November 08, 1999 4:09 PM Subject: Okay, I hope this is it for my 760... >Thanks to everyone for the help on the 4.3gb drive, >it's in and working like a champ.... now it's >something else... > >The pcmcia drivers are screwy in my win98 install. >When I check pcmcia socket under device manager it has >the following: > >PCMCIA socket > -> PCIC or compatible PCMCIA controller > -> PCMCIA Card Services > -> PCMCIA Card Services > -> Texas Instruments PCI-1130 Cardbus Controller > > >Also, on the pcmcia devices on the taskbar, it shows >3, sometimes 4 pcmcia sockets and doesn't always >register a pcmcia card correctly (it won't show the >socket as empty but it won't identify what's in the >socket). Ocassionally it will list my modem in socket >1 and list it again, as modem #2, in one of the >phantom sockets. > >Anyone know why it would be doing this? Sometimes it >lits a second TI controller as well. I've tried >deleting just the duplicates but it installs them at >the next boot. I've tried deleting them all and >letting it reinstall.. but it installs the duplicates >as well.... help? > >--Mike B. > >===== >http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > From cph Tue Nov 9 12:44:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA08000 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:44:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12913; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:41:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:38:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12435; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12422; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:37:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from cavecreations.com (192.41.27.30 -> cavecreations.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:37:57 -0500 Received: (cave@localhost) by cavecreations.com (8.8.5) id MAA02853; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:38:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:38:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911091738.MAA02853@cavecreations.com> From: "Albert C. 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From cph Tue Nov 9 13:39:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA08360 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:39:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17049; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:32:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:32:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16940; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from web123.yahoomail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16925; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:32:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from web123.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.191 -> web123.yahoomail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:32:23 -0500 Message-ID: <19991109183523.27926.rocketmail@web123.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.136.144.33] by web123.yahoomail.com; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 10:35:23 PST Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:35:23 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Brown Subject: Re: PC Card Director Removal for 760 in Win98 To: Denis Hall , mike@pencetera.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Yes, I have seen that but it shouldn't apply to me as this is a clean win98 install from CD. There were no IBM files at all on this drive. It's still a bit screwy, I have it working okay but it's not like it should be so I'm not sure how to proceed at this point. --- Denis Hall wrote: > Hi Mike, > unless you haven't already found it, I believe you > need to use this > file to remove extraneous stuffs for using Win98... > Here's the link: > > http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/PFAN-3VRTMZ.html?lang=en_US&page=brand&brand > =IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+760ED%7C9546%7CU3A&family=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+7 > 60ED&machineType=IBM+ThinkPad%7CThinkPad+760ED%7C9546&model=IBM+ThinkPad%7CT > hinkPad+760ED%7C9546%7CU3A&doctype=Downloadable+files&subtype=All&up=%25%25q > 7X9J7ZCXQ7v23%25VlmV&ut=loginCount%3D74%26productCount%3D2%26lastLoginDate%3 > D1999-11-08-23.27.40.000108%26type1%3D9545%26userID%3D%26greeting%3DWelcome% > 2Bback%252C%2BMr.%2BHall%26brand%3DIBM%2BThinkPad%26family%3DThinkPad%2B755C > D%26model1%3D9BE > > Have a Great Day, > Denis Hall, Michigan > 810.229.2881 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pencetera > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Date: Monday, November 08, 1999 4:09 PM > Subject: Okay, I hope this is it for my 760... > > > >Thanks to everyone for the help on the 4.3gb drive, > >it's in and working like a champ.... now it's > >something else... > > > >The pcmcia drivers are screwy in my win98 install. > >When I check pcmcia socket under device manager it > has > >the following: > > > >PCMCIA socket > > -> PCIC or compatible PCMCIA controller > > -> PCMCIA Card Services > > -> PCMCIA Card Services > > -> Texas Instruments PCI-1130 Cardbus Controller > > > > > >Also, on the pcmcia devices on the taskbar, it > shows > >3, sometimes 4 pcmcia sockets and doesn't always > >register a pcmcia card correctly (it won't show the > >socket as empty but it won't identify what's in the > >socket). Ocassionally it will list my modem in > socket > >1 and list it again, as modem #2, in one of the > >phantom sockets. > > > >Anyone know why it would be doing this? Sometimes > it > >lits a second TI controller as well. I've tried > >deleting just the duplicates but it installs them > at > >the next boot. I've tried deleting them all and > >letting it reinstall.. but it installs the > duplicates > >as well.... help? > > > >--Mike B. > > > >===== > >http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low > Cost, High Quality Fountain > Pens > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From cph Tue Nov 9 13:54:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA08461 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:54:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19282; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:50:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:50:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19163; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:50:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19108; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:49:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (207.0.68.7 -> home.dwave.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:49:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.9.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id MAA06975 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:51:32 -0600 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:51:28 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 730T install disks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > From: SOLM96@aol.com > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Subject: 730T install disks > > Does anyone have a set of IBM 730T installation disks? > I also need PenDos and WIN95 all on 3.5 disks or even maybe even download > them. Try IBM's web site for driver disks: www.pc.ibm.com/support The 730T came with IBM-DOS, PenDOS, Win3.1 and pen extensions. Only the pen extensions could be downloaded and now only Pen extensions for Win95 can. This can be found on IBM's site. Since this machine did not come with Win95, you'll have to buy it. Win98 should run, but not well, on the 730T. If I were you, I'd put Windows95 on this machine this way: Buy a parallel data cable. Get parallel-compatible software: - MS-DOS or IBM-DOS INTERLNK - LapLink - I don't know if DR-DOS (free download) has INTERLNK - FreeDOS does not have this Buy Windows95 used from ebay. Find a keyboard. Make a bootable DOS disk with INTERLNK for the 730T. Make a bootable DOS disk with CD driver and INTERSRV for your "server". Connect two machines and boot. Partition your drive, if needed. Install Win95. Install pen driver from IBM's site. (They have one disk that appears to have BIOS and drivers and utilities.) Good luck, Chris Schumann "Wait a minute, Joe. If what you're saying is true, then I still don't care." - Dave Nelson, News Radio From cph Tue Nov 9 15:21:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA09227 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:21:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26476; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:18:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:18:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26358; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:18:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26344; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:18:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:18:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA62134 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:17:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:17:57 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Greetings everyone, I have both a TP770Z and a TP385ED. The 770Z is connected to the network via Fast Ethernet. The 385ED has no ethernet card. Can I use the Infrared to either network the two TP's or do data transfer? How would I do it exactly? Thanks. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Tue Nov 9 20:13:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA11495 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 20:13:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17881; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 20:12:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 20:10:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17781; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 20:10:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from xnor.engin.umich.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17751; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 20:10:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from xnor.engin.umich.edu (141.213.42.36 -> xnor.engin.umich.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 20:10:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (arteitle@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xnor.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA11305; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 20:10:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 20:10:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" To: Vincent Poy cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Vincent Poy wrote: > Greetings everyone, > > I have both a TP770Z and a TP385ED. The 770Z is connected to the > network via Fast Ethernet. The 385ED has no ethernet card. Can I use the > Infrared to either network the two TP's or do data transfer? How would I > do it exactly? Thanks. If you're just aiming to transfer files from one to the other, and if both are running Windows 98, there is a built-in IR transfer facility for sending from one to the other. The Help menu (accessible from the Start menu) explains how to use it. If you want to share your Internet connection, or if either computer is using Windows 95, you'll need to set up a Direct Cable Connection using the virtual serial ports assigned to your IR devices on each laptop. Again, the Help pages explain how to do this. Sharing the Internet connection requires either that the Internet-connected computer be running Windows 98 SE (which includes an Internet Connection Sharing feature) or that you install a proxy server program on the Internet-connected computer, which will serve the same purpose. There is an entire section on www.winfiles.com full of different proxy server programs to choose from. One alternative to IR would be a Direct Cable Connection via serial or parallel port, though these aren't likely to run much faster than IR (potentially, Parallel could run a few times faster). One page that steps through setting up DCC is http://hdallen.home.mindspring.com/dcc.htm , though, again, I recommend to RTFM (pardon my language) that comes built-into Win95 or Win98 as well. Hope this helps; feel free to ask more questions if it doesn't, Aaron Teitlebaum arteitle@engin.umich.edu From cph Tue Nov 9 21:46:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA11886 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 21:46:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22584; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 21:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 21:43:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22493; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 21:43:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22471; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 21:43:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.206.140 -> ds-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 21:43:05 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.1) id VAA20745 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 21:43:00 -0500 (EST) Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from pcb502818 (sfr-tgn-sja-vty54.as.wcom.net [216.192.44.54]) by spdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.1) with SMTP id VAA20717 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 21:42:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911100242.VAA20717@spdmraaa.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 18:40:41 -0800 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: PalmV/WorkPad c3: newer coming? List-Unsubscribe: The WorkPad c3 is a clone of the Palm V (made by Palm I understand). There's now a Palm Vx, with 8Mb and possibly other benefits. Is there a corresponding WorkPad coming? Mostly I don't like the aluminum finish of the Palm V and would prefer black, although I suspect it's shiny black and not the matte black of my TP600. Are there actually any other differences between the Palm and WorkPad? Thanks! andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/LongBeachCA.html From cph Tue Nov 9 22:38:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA12089 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:38:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25159; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:36:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:36:07 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25086; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:36:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:36:07 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf v3.2) id WAA06304 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:27:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04859; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:07:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:07:42 -0500 Received: from p3-600 (client-151-204-210-1.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.1]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA14024 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:13:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991109171141.01385d10@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 17:11:41 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:17 PM 11/09/1999 -0800, Vincent Poy wrote: >Greetings everyone, > > I have both a TP770Z and a TP385ED. The 770Z is connected to the >network via Fast Ethernet. The 385ED has no ethernet card. Can I use the >Infrared to either network the two TP's or do data transfer? How would I >do it exactly? Thanks. Personally, I would go buy a $50-70 card from either ebay or get one in one of the misc.forsale usenet newsgroups. :) ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Tue Nov 9 23:23:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA12294 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 23:23:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27251; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 23:21:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 23:20:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27141; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 23:20:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-hub1.weeg.uiowa.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27128; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 23:20:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-hub1.weeg.uiowa.edu (128.255.56.31 -> mail-hub1.weeg.uiowa.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 23:20:53 -0500 Received: from black.weeg.uiowa.edu (IDENT:11732@black.weeg.uiowa.edu [128.255.56.4]) by mail-hub1.weeg.uiowa.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1/blue-mh-1.4) with ESMTP id WAA56330 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:20:52 -0600 Received: (from bonak@localhost) by black.weeg.uiowa.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1/blue-client-3.2) id WAA92788 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:20:51 -0600 From: Esmail Bonakdarian Message-Id: <199911100420.WAA92788@black.weeg.uiowa.edu> Subject: TP560/Linux/Wheelmouse?? Anyone?? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:20:51 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: esmail@uiowa.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Greetings. Has anyone been able to get a wheelmouse to work with a TP under Linux? Specifically, XFree 3.3.3.1, Kernel 2.2.5, TP 560x and MS intelli/wheel mouse. Once I disabled the trackpoint with the help of the Win TP config program I got this to work under Win 95 (after I loaded the necessary drivers). Under linux, the moment I get into X, my mouse just wants to be in the top right corner and none of the mouse buttons seem to do anything much. I can try to move the mouse pointer to the center .. but it zooms back up to the top right. I end up Cntrl-Alt-Backspace to get out of X. This is what I have in my XF86Config. Section "Pointer" Device "/dev/psaux" # Emulate3Buttons # Emulate3Timeout 50 # Protocol "PS/2" ZAxisMapping 4 5 Protocol "imps/2" Buttons 3 EndSection By the way, I was able to get this mouse to work fine on my desktop using the instructions found at: http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ I pretty much used the same setup for the TP, but no go. Esmail ---- Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak From cph Tue Nov 9 23:55:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA12415 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 23:55:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28701; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 23:53:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 23:53:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28621; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 23:53:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28592; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 23:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (192.160.127.90 -> Kitten.mcs.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 23:53:15 -0500 Received: from randolph (P52-Chi-Dial-5.pool.mcs.net [205.253.225.52]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id WAA15772 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:53:10 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard E. Robbins" To: Subject: Proper Treatment of Lithium Ion Battery Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:31:48 -0600 Message-ID: <000001bf2b37$48f6e940$c9fbb7c6@tinker.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: I've recently acquired a Thinkpad i Series 1480, which uses a Lithium ion battery. The literature included with the computer seems to indicate that I should, in general, run on battery power and only attach the machine to the AC adapter when the battery is completely run down. Is that true? I am accustomed to keeping my notebook attached to the AC adapter whenever I am using it on my desk, which is most of the time. I'll run on the battery when I take the notebook away from my desk, in which case it would be unusual for me to run down the battery completely. Afterwards, I'll typically just plug the device back in to the AC adapter. Do I risk harming the battery if I keep the computer plugged into the AC adapter generally, even when the battery has been used but not drained completely? -- Rich From cph Wed Nov 10 00:09:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA12470 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:09:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29743; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:07:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:07:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29653; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:07:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29635; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:07:43 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mill.cisco.com (161.44.200.11 -> mill.cisco.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:07:43 -0500 Received: from mill.cisco.com (mill.cisco.com [161.44.200.11]) by mill.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA07924; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:07:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:07:05 -0500 (EST) To: esmail@uiowa.edu cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP560/Linux/Wheelmouse?? Anyone?? In-Reply-To: <199911100420.WAA92788@black.weeg.uiowa.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I think your protocol is probably wrong; unfortunately, since I'm on a Toshiba at the moment, I can't speak authoritatively. However, my protocol is listed as... section "Pointer" Protocol "PS/2" Device "/dev/mouse" Give that a go. For my desktop, which has an HP (OEM?) wheelmouse, it's Section "Pointer" Protocol "IMPS/2" Device "/dev/mouse" ZAxisMapping 4 5 Hope this helps... -Ken On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Esmail Bonakdarian wrote: > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:20:51 -0600 (CST) > From: Esmail Bonakdarian > Reply-To: esmail@uiowa.edu > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: TP560/Linux/Wheelmouse?? Anyone?? > > Greetings. > > Has anyone been able to get a wheelmouse to work with a TP under > Linux? > > Specifically, XFree 3.3.3.1, Kernel 2.2.5, TP 560x and MS > intelli/wheel mouse. > > Once I disabled the trackpoint with the help of the Win TP config > program I got this to work under Win 95 (after I loaded the necessary > drivers). > > Under linux, the moment I get into X, my mouse just wants to be in the > top right corner and none of the mouse buttons seem to do anything > much. I can try to move the mouse pointer to the center .. but it > zooms back up to the top right. I end up Cntrl-Alt-Backspace to get > out of X. > > This is what I have in my XF86Config. > > > Section "Pointer" > Device "/dev/psaux" > # Emulate3Buttons > # Emulate3Timeout 50 > # Protocol "PS/2" > ZAxisMapping 4 5 > Protocol "imps/2" > Buttons 3 > EndSection > > > By the way, I was able to get this mouse to work fine on my desktop > using the instructions found at: > > http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ > > I pretty much used the same setup for the TP, but no go. > > Esmail > ---- > Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak > > From cph Wed Nov 10 00:14:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA12483 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:14:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00061; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:12:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29981; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:12:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot009.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29968; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot009.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.109 -> pilot009.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:12:47 -0500 Received: from andres (pm453-15.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.169]) by pilot009.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA40758 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:12:42 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991110001238.00b02aa0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:12:38 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Proper Treatment of Lithium Ion Battery In-Reply-To: <000001bf2b37$48f6e940$c9fbb7c6@tinker.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Whoa--you got a 1480? I'm impressed. I haven't been able to find out when they'd be available. I haven't seen this unit yet, but I don't think you have that right. I will bet that what was meant was "once you use the battery, run it all the way down before hooking it up to the AC mains". The reason is to avoid the condition of charging a partially depleted battery. You *can* do this, but at the cost of future battery life. If you are going to run your unit on AC power as I do, after the battery is charged I'd take it out of the unit. It seems that all ThinkPads (and indeed, nearly all laptops in general) charge the battery a little (a trickle charge) after the main charging has happened. If you live in your laptop you'll ultimately hurt the battery by doing this long enough. It's a pain to remember taking it out, but I think it will be worth it in the long run. There is no company that properly stresses this. Whether due to a lack of forsight or desire to sell more batteries I can't say. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 10:31 PM 11/9/1999 -0600, Richard E. Robbins wrote: >I've recently acquired a Thinkpad i Series 1480, which uses a Lithium ion >battery. > >The literature included with the computer seems to indicate that I should, >in general, run on battery power and only attach the machine to the AC >adapter when the battery is completely run down. Is that true? > >I am accustomed to keeping my notebook attached to the AC adapter whenever I >am using it on my desk, which is most of the time. I'll run on the battery >when I take the notebook away from my desk, in which case it would be >unusual for me to run down the battery completely. Afterwards, I'll >typically just plug the device back in to the AC adapter. > >Do I risk harming the battery if I keep the computer plugged into the AC >adapter generally, even when the battery has been used but not drained >completely? > >-- Rich From cph Wed Nov 10 04:24:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA13107 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 04:24:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA11315; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 04:22:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 04:20:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA11199; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 04:20:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA11186; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 04:20:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 04:20:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA71914; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 01:20:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 01:20:38 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Aaron R. Teitlebaum wrote: > On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Vincent Poy wrote: > > > Greetings everyone, > > > > I have both a TP770Z and a TP385ED. The 770Z is connected to the > > network via Fast Ethernet. The 385ED has no ethernet card. Can I use the > > Infrared to either network the two TP's or do data transfer? How would I > > do it exactly? Thanks. > > If you're just aiming to transfer files from one to the other, and if both > are running Windows 98, there is a built-in IR transfer facility for > sending from one to the other. The Help menu (accessible from the Start > menu) explains how to use it. If you want to share your Internet > connection, or if either computer is using Windows 95, you'll need to set > up a Direct Cable Connection using the virtual serial ports assigned to > your IR devices on each laptop. Again, the Help pages explain how to do > this. Sharing the Internet connection requires either that the > Internet-connected computer be running Windows 98 SE (which includes an > Internet Connection Sharing feature) or that you install a proxy server > program on the Internet-connected computer, which will serve the same > purpose. There is an entire section on www.winfiles.com full of different > proxy server programs to choose from. > > One alternative to IR would be a Direct Cable Connection via serial or > parallel port, though these aren't likely to run much faster than IR > (potentially, Parallel could run a few times faster). One page that steps > through setting up DCC is http://hdallen.home.mindspring.com/dcc.htm , > though, again, I recommend to RTFM (pardon my language) that comes > built-into Win95 or Win98 as well. > > Hope this helps; feel free to ask more questions if it doesn't, Thanks... Okay, how do I get the Network to show a TCP/IP -> Infrared on both machines since it doesn't yet exist. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Wed Nov 10 05:56:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA13255 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 05:56:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA23501; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 05:54:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 05:54:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA23415; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 05:54:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA23399; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 05:54:11 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6 -> imo16.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 05:54:11 -0500 Received: from JEShoemaker@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id 5RECa19121 (3940); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 05:52:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.b273cc44.255aa883@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 05:52:51 EST Subject: Re: Proper Treatment of Lithium Ion Battery To: rer@mcs.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 09/11/99 11:53:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, rer@mcs.net writes: > I've recently acquired a Thinkpad i Series 1480, which uses a Lithium ion > battery. > > The literature included with the computer seems to indicate that I should, > in general, run on battery power and only attach the machine to the AC > adapter when the battery is completely run down. Is that true? > > I am accustomed to keeping my notebook attached to the AC adapter whenever I > am using it on my desk, which is most of the time. I'll run on the battery > when I take the notebook away from my desk, in which case it would be > unusual for me to run down the battery completely. Afterwards, I'll > typically just plug the device back in to the AC adapter. > > Do I risk harming the battery if I keep the computer plugged into the AC > adapter generally, even when the battery has been used but not drained > completely? Rich, I've run a 560e and 770 on AC 24/7 for a year and a half without any problem. In fact, I've also left the LiIon batteries installed to serve as backup power supply and they still hold @3/4 charge. That said, this is IBM's most recent release on battery use: Tips to get the most out of your battery (Dated: 11-2-99) http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/PFAN-3QNQJN.html The following is copied for this site: "NOTE: If you mainly use your ThinkPad as a desktop replacement, your battery will have a constant charge of 100%. This will negatively affect the performance of your battery. It would be better to use battery power or to remove the battery from your system while using mains power." John From cph Wed Nov 10 09:49:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA14215 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:49:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04388; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:45:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:43:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04233; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04220; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:43:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (18.27.0.167 -> sls.lcs.mit.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:43:52 -0500 Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (ursa-minor [18.27.0.115]) by sls.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23518 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:43:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <382984AB.C0BB56DF@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:43:55 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Proper Treatment of Lithium Ion Battery References: <0.b273cc44.255aa883@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: We have a fleet of about 15 TP600s. I've seen at least 5 LiIon batteries die over the course of 18 months of use, mostly on AC with the batteries installed. By die, I mean they won't hold a charge and last more than 5-10 minutes when supposedly fully charged up. --Lee Hetherington From cph Wed Nov 10 11:49:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA14854 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:49:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14651; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:46:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:45:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14445; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:45:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from xnor.engin.umich.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14377; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:45:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from xnor.engin.umich.edu (141.213.42.36 -> xnor.engin.umich.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:45:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (arteitle@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xnor.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA04900; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:45:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:45:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" To: Vincent Poy cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Vincent Poy wrote: > Thanks... Okay, how do I get the Network to show a TCP/IP -> > Infrared on both machines since it doesn't yet exist. Actually, the Direct Cable Connection is part of Dial-Up Networking, so if you see TCP/IP -> Dial-Up Networking, that means that TCP/IP is bound to Direct Cable Connection as well, and since you'll be using Direct Cable Connection across your infrared link (with a virtual cable, basically), well.. You should be good to go. These instructions are kind of vague, admittedly, but an AltaVista search for terms like "Direct Cable Connection" and "proxy" and "TCP" and the like will yield a number of instructional pages on setting up DCC for Internet Connection Sharing. Aaron Teitlebaum arteitle@engin.umich.edu From cph Wed Nov 10 11:56:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA14936 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:56:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15322; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:53:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:53:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15241; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from europa.veggie.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15228; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:53:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from europa.veggie.com (128.255.63.229 -> gauguin.weeg.uiowa.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:53:11 -0500 Received: (from bonak@localhost) by europa.veggie.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA19013; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:52:07 -0600 From: Esmail Bonakdarian Message-Id: <199911101652.KAA19013@europa.veggie.com> Subject: Re: TP560/Linux/Wheelmouse?? Anyone?? To: kend@cisco.com Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:52:07 -0600 (EST) Cc: esmail@uiowa.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: from "kend@cisco.com" at Nov 10, 99 00:07:05 am Reply-To: Esmail Bonakdarian Content-Type: text List-Unsubscribe: kend@cisco.com writes: > > I think your protocol is probably wrong; unfortunately, since I'm on a > Toshiba at the moment, I can't speak authoritatively. However, my > protocol is listed as... > > section "Pointer" > Protocol "PS/2" > Device "/dev/mouse" Hi Ken, Yes, you are correct, there is a problem with the protocol (in a way). If I use PS/2 protocol, the mouse works as a simple 2-button mouse. If I use the Emulate3Buttons then I can get "3 buttons" to work (when I press both buttons at the same time). However, I can't get the wheel to work (as a wheel or a center button) as I can with my desktop. The "imps/2" protocol is supposed to get this to work... I've really gotten used to using the wheel, really cool. It would be great if I could get this to work with Linux on the TP too. If you check your toshiba and come up with something else, please let me know. Thanks! Esmail > Give that a go. For my desktop, which has an HP (OEM?) wheelmouse, it's > Section "Pointer" > Protocol "IMPS/2" > Device "/dev/mouse" > ZAxisMapping 4 5 > > > Hope this helps... > > -Ken > > On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Esmail Bonakdarian wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:20:51 -0600 (CST) > > From: Esmail Bonakdarian > > Reply-To: esmail@uiowa.edu > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: TP560/Linux/Wheelmouse?? Anyone?? > > > > Greetings. > > > > Has anyone been able to get a wheelmouse to work with a TP under > > Linux? > > > > Specifically, XFree 3.3.3.1, Kernel 2.2.5, TP 560x and MS > > intelli/wheel mouse. > > > > Once I disabled the trackpoint with the help of the Win TP config > > program I got this to work under Win 95 (after I loaded the necessary > > drivers). > > > > Under linux, the moment I get into X, my mouse just wants to be in the > > top right corner and none of the mouse buttons seem to do anything > > much. I can try to move the mouse pointer to the center .. but it > > zooms back up to the top right. I end up Cntrl-Alt-Backspace to get > > out of X. > > > > This is what I have in my XF86Config. > > > > > > Section "Pointer" > > Device "/dev/psaux" > > # Emulate3Buttons > > # Emulate3Timeout 50 > > # Protocol "PS/2" > > ZAxisMapping 4 5 > > Protocol "imps/2" > > Buttons 3 > > EndSection > > > > > > By the way, I was able to get this mouse to work fine on my desktop > > using the instructions found at: > > > > http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ > > > > I pretty much used the same setup for the TP, but no go. > > > > Esmail > > ---- > > Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak > > > > > ---- Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak [ per aspera ad astra ] From cph Wed Nov 10 12:17:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA15100 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:17:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17072; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:14:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16984; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:14:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16969; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:14:21 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.34 -> imo-d02.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:14:21 -0500 Received: from Bmwm61@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id oTDDTH93m_ (4011) for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:13:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.5bffdb3b.255b01c7@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:13:43 EST Subject: 730t pen software To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 List-Unsubscribe: I'm having trouble loading Windows for Pen 1.0 software that I downloaded >from the penwin.com site. After I install Win3.1, I can get the first Pen disk to load but the second is not recognized (i.e. Windows just keeps asking for Disk 2). Any help? Jim From cph Wed Nov 10 16:38:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA17310 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:38:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11114; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:33:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10447; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:33:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10421; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:33:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:33:45 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA16581 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:33:38 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000b01bf2bc3$40e91f20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: References: Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:33:38 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > Actually, the Direct Cable Connection is part of Dial-Up Networking, so if At the risk of inserting needless confusion, it should be noted that another way of connecting W95 machines across an IR link is to create 'virtual' modems on the IR ports (a fellow named Kevin Wells has created an .inf file for this purpose), then run Dial-Up Networking Server on one machine using this port, and Dial-Up Networking on the other. That way one doesn't need to fuss with some of the peculiarities of DCC (for example, that different builds sometimes won't communicate). - David R. From cph Wed Nov 10 18:16:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA18175 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:16:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17710; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:14:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:14:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17581; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:14:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp4.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17548; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:13:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp4.mindspring.com (207.69.200.64 -> smtp4.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:13:45 -0500 Received: from wald5 (user-2iveabr.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.41.123]) by smtp4.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA30730 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:13:19 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Suspend on 770Z Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:14:37 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Earlier this week my 770Z mysteriously stopped suspending. I had not just installed anything. I'm using Win98SE over the original preinstall version of Win98. When I go to Standby from the Start/Shutdown button I get a message saying that either a driver or a software program is preventing the laptop from entering standby. Anyone have any ideas where the problem might be? Thank you, Bill Armstrong From cph Wed Nov 10 18:52:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA18460 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:52:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20111; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:50:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:50:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20030; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:50:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20017; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:50:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:50:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA97884; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:50:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:50:10 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: William Armstrong cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Suspend on 770Z In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi Bill, Win98SE is weird. With my machine, my ThinkPad modem will not work after I resume from suspend/standby. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Wed Nov 10 19:10:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA18585 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:10:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21241; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:08:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:08:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21143; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:08:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21129; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:08:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (208.154.252.26 -> mail.iso.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:08:26 -0500 Received: from iso.net (dial45.auto-net.com [208.154.252.94]) by mail.iso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28241 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:06:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wvantuyl@iso.net) Message-ID: <382A0457.D0D33570@iso.net> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:48:39 -0600 From: William Van Tuyl Reply-To: wvantuyl@iso.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Powering up a 755C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I need to power up a 755C but do not have the IBM AC adapter. The 755C has the 4 prong D plug. Can I safely put power to this unit with a bench PS? Or will the laptop choke, spit, belch or ? TIA, Bill From cph Wed Nov 10 19:53:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA18783 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:53:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23773; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:51:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:50:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23617; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23604; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:50:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:50:18 -0500 Received: from ati-ga2-36.ix.netcom.com (ati-ga2-36.ix.netcom.com [207.222.234.100]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA03631 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:50:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911110050.TAA03631@smtp6.mindspring.com> From: "Allan" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:50:47 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <000b01bf2bc3$40e91f20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's List-Unsubscribe: Don't know about IR, but DCC is slow as molassas. I used it once, just to see what it is all about, and shudder to remember the crawling pace. I think I'd just add a modem to the other machine, and use a 2nd line to RAS into it. On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:33:38 -1000, David Ross wrote: >> Actually, the Direct Cable Connection is part of Dial-Up Networking, so if > >At the risk of inserting needless confusion, it should be noted that another way of connecting >W95 machines across an IR link is to create 'virtual' modems on the IR ports (a fellow named Kevin Wells has created an .inf file >for this purpose), then run Dial-Up Networking Server on one machine >using this port, and Dial-Up Networking on the other. That way one doesn't need to fuss with >some of the peculiarities of DCC (for example, that different builds sometimes won't communicate). > >- David R. > From cph Wed Nov 10 22:05:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA19521 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:05:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00583; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:02:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:01:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00494; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:01:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00467; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:01:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:01:19 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA18698; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:01:11 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000801bf2bf1$038936a0$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Allan " , References: <199911110050.TAA03631@smtp6.mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:01:12 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > Don't know about IR, but DCC is slow as molassas. I used it > once, just to see what it is all about, and shudder to remember > the crawling pace. > > I think I'd just add a modem to the other machine, and use a 2nd > line to RAS into it. Direct cabling (either through wire or through IR) is obviously faster than an analogue modem on that port, since one can transmit at the maximum hardware speed of the slower of the two communications ports, whereas with a modem there are in addition to these constraints the further constraint of the maximum modem speed. Even the IR - in general slower than a cabled serial port - is faster than any standard modem (I'm not including ISDN et al here). I don't want to defend DCC as a piece of *software*; indeed, my contribution to the thread was to point out that one can essentially establish RAS across a direct (serial) connection, including IRdA, and avoid the DCC program. - David R. From cph Thu Nov 11 00:20:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA20171 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:20:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06625; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:18:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:18:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06532; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:18:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06503; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:18:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:18:00 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA19038 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:17:55 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000501bf2c04$1d1b8f60$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: References: <199911110429.XAA18539@smtp6.mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:17:54 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > From an old copy of "Windows 95 Secrets:" > > ...DCC is not able to give you the 14 kilobytes per second of > file transfer speed that the 115,000 (self: from the newer > UARTs) would imply. DCC is much slower on a serial cable > than Laplink for Windows. Once you've used Laplink, DCC is > essentially unusable. Perhaps, but a DUS/DUN connection (*not* DCC) over a fast serial cable or IRdA port can easily approach maximum speeds. I used to regularly set up an IRdA PPP connection between one laptop (hardwired to the net, and acting as proxy server) and a client laptop through the IrDA port, and throughput was usually pretty close to the 115K baud rate (as measured by System Monitor). - David R. From cph Thu Nov 11 00:40:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA20281 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:40:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07829; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:39:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:38:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07743; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07728; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:38:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (171.64.14.23 -> smtp2.Stanford.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:38:53 -0500 Received: from leland.stanford.edu (banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.66.3.116]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3/L) with ESMTP id VAA07952 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:38:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <382A5723.C80FD24D@leland.stanford.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:41:55 -0800 From: Benjamin Koh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's References: <199911110429.XAA18539@smtp6.mindspring.com> <000501bf2c04$1d1b8f60$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: If both TPs are fairly recent and support the new 4Mbps standard that should give you about 400KB/s - pretty good I should think. I have a friend who connected his Laserjet 5 to his TP600 via IR, and apparently it prints much faster than the parallel port. Benjamin David Ross wrote: > > > From an old copy of "Windows 95 Secrets:" > > > > ...DCC is not able to give you the 14 kilobytes per second of > > file transfer speed that the 115,000 (self: from the newer > > UARTs) would imply. DCC is much slower on a serial cable > > than Laplink for Windows. Once you've used Laplink, DCC is > > essentially unusable. > > Perhaps, but a DUS/DUN connection (*not* DCC) over a fast serial cable or IRdA port > can easily approach maximum speeds. I used to regularly set up an IRdA PPP connection > between one laptop (hardwired to the net, and acting as proxy server) and a client laptop > through the IrDA port, and throughput was usually pretty close to the 115K baud rate (as > measured by System Monitor). > > - David R. From cph Thu Nov 11 03:51:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA20830 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:51:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14747; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:49:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:48:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14640; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:48:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14627; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:48:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA29555; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:48:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:48:31 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Benjamin Koh cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's In-Reply-To: <382A5723.C80FD24D@leland.stanford.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Benjamin Koh wrote: > If both TPs are fairly recent and support the new 4Mbps standard that > should give you about 400KB/s - pretty good I should think. I have a > friend who connected his Laserjet 5 to his TP600 via IR, and apparently > it prints much faster than the parallel port. Good point but what I'm trying to figure out is how do I get the Infrared port to use the TCP/IP protocol since I don't see a link for that right now. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Thu Nov 11 04:16:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA20883 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:16:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16085; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:14:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:14:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16011; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:14:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA15993; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:14:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:14:48 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [194.216.44.43]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13071; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:13:05 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [194.216.44.36]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA04233; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:13:02 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 9:12:53 +0000 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , William Van Tuyl Subject: Re: Powering up a 755C MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id EAA20884 I'd imagine that you'd be fine, I don't know if there are two or possibly three rails though. It might be easier to run a pair of wires from the battery contacts inside the case, unless you want to charge the battery up as well that is. You only need one rail at about 9V. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Powering up a 755C Author: MIME:William Van Tuyl at INTERNET Date: 11/11/99 12:15 AM I need to power up a 755C but do not have the IBM AC adapter. The 755C has the 4 prong D plug. Can I safely put power to this unit with a bench PS? Or will the laptop choke, spit, belch or ? TIA, Bill ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Thu Nov 11 04:22:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA20916 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:22:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16462; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:20:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:20:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16389; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:20:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16340; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:20:14 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA19509; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:20:03 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000501bf2c25$f16e1a00$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Vincent Poy" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:20:04 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > Good point but what I'm trying to figure out is how do I get the > Infrared port to use the TCP/IP protocol since I don't see a link for that > right now. Protocols don't connect to ports, they connect to adapters. Here's how I do (well, did) things in W95; I assume that something similar or even better will work in W98: (1) Make sure the MS device driver for the IR port is enabled, so that it looks like a com port to W95 (2) Install a 'virtual modem' driver; I used one from Keven Wells which I got from http://www.vt.edu:10021/K/kewells/net/index.html some years back, there might be others out there. (This is just a small ASCII .inf file.) Tell W95 that your virtual modem is communicating over the IR's associated com port. (3) Make sure that DUN adapter is installed on the machine (under networking in the control panel), attach the protocol(s) of your choice (apparently TCP/IP) to this adapter. Now follow the usual direction for Dial-up server and dial-up networking, just using the virtual modem instead of a regular modem. As for setting up proxy etc., if you have trouble with this I have some useful links somewhere (on another machine...) - David R. From cph Thu Nov 11 06:10:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA21232 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:10:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA28047; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:00:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27962; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:00:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27947; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:00:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:00:37 -0500 Received: from jerrycud ([12.78.195.102]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991111110035.QTQA21742@jerrycud> for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:00:35 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991111060212.008eb7a0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jerryray@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:02:12 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: JC Subject: 770 ed new bios Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have a 770ed 9549 5AU, using bios 1.3 I am getting beeping , then a reboot upon cold start. I have nothing attached to the computer. I did initialize and it still beeps, then reboots, very annoying, something is wrong with this version. I ran all the diags and the machine checks ok. This did not happen with the old bios. Anyone else have this? Any Idea's Jerry Cudmore From cph Thu Nov 11 06:31:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA21469 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:31:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA28753; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:22:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA28651; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:22:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA28638; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (216.32.181.115 -> law2-f115.hotmail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:22:18 -0500 Received: (qmail 34092 invoked by uid 0); 11 Nov 1999 11:22:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19991111112217.34091.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.15.93.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:22:17 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.15.93.61] From: "Rat Boy" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 2 meg floppy Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:22:17 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Whatever happened to the 2Meg 3 1/2 inch floppy drive? Does IBM still offer that on their laptops? Jimmy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cph Thu Nov 11 07:22:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA21582 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:22:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00443; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:17:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:16:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00365; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:16:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00350; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:16:31 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [194.216.44.43]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15781; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:15:47 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [194.216.44.36]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA08397; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:15:42 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:15:37 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, "Rat Boy" Subject: Re: 2.88 meg floppy MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id HAA21583 No idea, but I've got a 2.88 on a 755C, but presumably just a 1.44 on a 755CX. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: 2 meg floppy Author: MIME:"Rat Boy" at INTERNET Date: 11/11/99 11:29 AM Whatever happened to the 2Meg 3 1/2 inch floppy drive? Does IBM still offer that on their laptops? Jimmy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Thu Nov 11 07:26:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA21594 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:26:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00658; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:20:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00573; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:20:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00551; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:20:33 -0500 Received: from ati-ga2-36.ix.netcom.com (ati-ga2-36.ix.netcom.com [207.222.234.100]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA28352; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:20:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911111220.HAA28352@smtp6.mindspring.com> From: "Allan" To: "Adam Quantrill" , "Rat Boy" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:20:46 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 2.88 meg floppy List-Unsubscribe: I have a 2.88 Mb drive on my 760CD, but don't know how to use it . Do these drives format regular 1.44 disks to 2.88? On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:15:37 +0000, Adam Quantrill wrote: >No idea, but I've got a 2.88 on a 755C, but presumably just a 1.44 on a 755CX. > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: 2 meg floppy >Author: MIME:"Rat Boy" at INTERNET >Date: 11/11/99 11:29 AM > > >Whatever happened to the 2Meg 3 1/2 inch floppy drive? Does IBM still offer that on their laptops? > >Jimmy > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >------------------------------------------------------------ >Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 >Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 >Harston http://www.generics.co.uk >Cambridge CB2 5NH >United Kingdom >Registered in England No 2081960 >------------------------------------------------------------ > > From cph Thu Nov 11 07:33:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA21606 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:33:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01014; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:28:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:28:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00929; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:28:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00915; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:27:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:27:54 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [194.216.44.43]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16049; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:27:51 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [194.216.44.36]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA08895; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:27:45 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:27:37 +0000 To: "Rat Boy" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Allan" Subject: Re[2]: 2.88 meg floppy MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id HAA21607 Yes. You can specify the exact density as an arg to the format command. Format will format an already formatted floppy to the same density as it was to start with, by default. As a lot of floppies are pre-formatted these days, you might need to use the argument. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: 2.88 meg floppy Author: MIME:"Allan" at INTERNET Date: 11/11/99 12:21 PM I have a 2.88 Mb drive on my 760CD, but don't know how to use it . Do these drives format regular 1.44 disks to 2.88? On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:15:37 +0000, Adam Quantrill wrote: >No idea, but I've got a 2.88 on a 755C, but presumably just a 1.44 on a 755CX. > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: 2 meg floppy >Author: MIME:"Rat Boy" at INTERNET >Date: 11/11/99 11:29 AM > > >Whatever happened to the 2Meg 3 1/2 inch floppy drive? Does IBM still offer that on their laptops? > >Jimmy > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >------------------------------------------------------------ >Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 >Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 >Harston http://www.generics.co.uk >Cambridge CB2 5NH >United Kingdom >Registered in England No 2081960 >------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Thu Nov 11 07:40:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA21623 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:40:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01561; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:35:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:35:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01481; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:35:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ntserver2.invention-machine.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01466; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:35:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ntserver2.invention-machine.com (12.30.60.66) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:35:23 -0500 Received: from alexkirkovsky (1Cust31.tnt4.bos2.da.uu.net [63.22.97.31]) by ntserver2.invention-machine.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id VTLGR4BX; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:26:50 -0500 Message-ID: <017201bf2c41$2b4b1320$1f61163f@alexkirkovsky> Reply-To: "Alex Kirkovsky" From: "Alex Kirkovsky" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: PCCard hard drive problem under DOS Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:34:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_016F_01BF2C17.419336A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_016F_01BF2C17.419336A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, Could you help me with my problem of using PCMCIA Kingston hard drive in = DOS? My Kingston PC Crad hard drive "DataPak 1GB" works fine in Windows 98 = SE, but I can not work with this hard drive in DOS. I am using "Card Soft PCMCIA Driver for DOS" software for my "TP570 = 2644-3AU" laptop downloaded from IBM Web site. My config.sys file for DOS is: ------------------------------ DOS=3DSINGLE DOS=3DHIGH,UMB DEVICE=3DA:\HIMEM.SYS DEVICE=3DA:\EMM386.EXE NOEMS X=3DD000-D7FF REM ********** CardSoft(TM) 5.32.23 PCMCIA DRIVERS ****** DEVICE=3DA:\CARDXTND.SYS DEVICE=3DA:\SSCBTI.SYS /numada:2 /ada1skts:2 /ada2skts:2 DEVICE=3DA:\CS.SYS DEVICEHIGH=3DA:\CSALLOC.EXE DEVICEHIGH=3DA:\ATADRV.EXE /s:2 DEVICEHIGH=3DA:\MTSRAM.EXE DEVICEHIGH=3DA:\MTDDRV.EXE DEVICE=3DA:\CARDID.SYS INSTALL=3DA:\CS_APM.EXE REM ******* PANASONIC CD-ROM: KXLC005 ******* rem DEVICE=3DA:\ATASMGR.SYS rem DEVICE=3DA:\KMESATCD.SYS /d:PCMCIACD --------------------------------------------------- My autoexec.bat file for DOS is: ---------------------------------- @ECHO OFF SET PATH=3DC:\Windows;C:\Windows\Command; SET PROMPT=3D$p$g SET TMP=3DC:\windows\TEMP SET TEMP=3DC:\windows\TEMP SET BLASTER=3DA220 I5 D1 T4 LOADHIGH A:\MSCDEX.EXE /d:PCMCIACD A:\SMARTDRV.EXE /V 2048 2048 --------------------------------------------------- My CardSoft cardid.ini file is: -------------------------------- [Common] ; Common Information section created by Config ComPort1=3D3F8 ComIRQ1=3D4 ComPort2=3D2F8 ComIRQ2=3D3 ComPort3=3D3E8 ComIRQ3=3D11 ComPort4=3D2E8 ComIRQ4=3D3 ComBySocket=3DNo ComBDAAbsolute=3DYes ComRollOverOn=3DYes NoDOSModem=3DNo FirstModem=3D3 SecondModem=3D4 ThirdModem=3D4 FourthModem=3D4 Audio=3DYes RingIndicate=3DYes Lan1Port=3D300 Lan1IRQ=3D5 Lan1MemoryBase1=3DD4 Lan1MemoryBase2=3DD6 Lan2Port=3D310 Lan2IRQ=3D10 Lan2MemoryBase1=3DD8 Lan2MemoryBase2=3DDC ATATryLinear=3DYes ATATryPrimary=3DYes ATATrySecondary=3DYes ATATryMemory=3DNo FastTokenRing=3DNo DetectNonCompliant=3DYes ContinueOnConfigFailure=3DNo BeepInDOS=3DYes BeepInWindows=3DNo GrabInitFile=3DYes InitBufferSize=3D512 FirstLan=3D1 SecondLan=3D2 ATAFirstConf=3D1 ATASecondConf=3D3 ATAThirdConf=3D4 ATAFourthConf=3D2 [Libraries] ; The Libraries section contains references to any card libraries the = user ; wishes to include. Libraries are searched in the specified order. = Path ; names are relative to the directory containing CARDID.INI. CardLib=3DANYSCSI.CLB CardLib=3DANYCOMBO.CLB CardLib=3DINTELLAN.CLB CardLib=3DLINKSYS.CLB CardLib=3DLINKSYS2.CLB ;CardLib=3DTDKLAN2.CLB CardLib=3DSOCKETEA.CLB CardLib=3DIBMLAN.CLB CardLib=3DIBMTOK.CLB CardLib=3DIBM3270.CLB CardLib=3DPROXIM.CLB CardLib=3DCBDAS.CLB CardLib=3DGENATA.CLB CardLib=3DGENMODEM.CLB ;CardLib=3DWD.CLB --------------------------------------------------- The result of cardinfo.exe is: ---------------------------------------- SystemSoft PCMCIA Card Information Utility, Version 3.10 (2090-41) Copyright 1992-1996 SystemSoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved Slot 1 Function 0: Slot is empty Slot 2 Function 0: Manufacturer =3D "Kingston Technology" Product Name =3D "DataPak 1GB" Device Type =3D ATA Disk Drive =3D F: Slot 3 Function 0: Slot is empty Slot 4 Function 0: Slot is empty --------------------------------------------------- The result of csalloc.exe/r is: --------------------------------- SystemSoft Plug-N-Play Card Services Allocation Utility Version 5.00 = (5001-00) Copyright 1993-1995 SystemSoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved. MEM: D0000-D7FFF,2000000-21FFFFF IOP: 100-16F,170-177(R),178-1EF,1F8-1FF,208-20F,210-21F(A),260-2E7, 2E8-2EF(R),2F0-2F7,310-36F,370-377(R),378-387,390-3B7,3E8-3EF(R), 500-5FE(R),5FF-6FD(R),6FE-7FC(R),7FD-7FF(R),900-9FE(R),9FF-AFD(R), AFE-BFC(R),BFD-BFF(R),D00-DFE(R),DFF-EFD(R),EFE-FFC(R),FFD-FFF(R), 6000-60FE,60FF-61FD,61FE-62FC,62FD-63FB,63FC-64FA,64FB-65F9,65FA-66F8, 66F9-67F7,67F8-68F6,68F7-69F5,69F6-6AF4,6AF5-6BF3,6BF4-6CF2,6CF3-6DF1, 6DF2-6EF0,6EF1-6FEF,6FF0-6FFF,8000-80FE,80FF-81FD,81FE-82FC,82FD-83FB, 83FC-84FA,84FB-85F9,85FA-86F8,86F9-87F7,87F8-88F6,88F7-89F5,89F6-8AF4, 8AF5-8BF3,8BF4-8CF2,8CF3-8DF1,8DF2-8EF0,8EF1-8FEF,8FF0-8FFF IRQ: 9,A,B(AR),F DMA8: DMA16: (A) - Allocated. (R) - Reserved. (S) - Shared. --------------------------------------------------- My hard drive has FAT32. While inserting the hard drive I hear the medium tone followed by high = tone beep. According to CardSoft documentation it means that the = CardSoft software is able to reconize and configure PCCard. When I try to access to my DataPak hard drive in DOS I got the message: = "General failure reading drive F". What should I change in my settings? Thank you in advance. Regards, Alex Kirkovsky ------=_NextPart_000_016F_01BF2C17.419336A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear all,
 
Could you help me with my problem of using PCMCIA Kingston hard = drive in=20 DOS?
 
My Kingston PC Crad hard drive "DataPak 1GB" works fine in Windows = 98 SE,=20 but I can not work with this hard drive in DOS.
I am using "Card Soft = PCMCIA=20 Driver for DOS" software for my "TP570 2644-3AU" laptop downloaded from = IBM Web=20 site.
 

My config.sys file for DOS=20 is:
------------------------------
DOS=3DSINGLE
DOS=3DHIGH,UMBDEVICE=3DA:\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=3DA:\EMM386.EXE=20 NOEMS X=3DD000-D7FF
 
REM ********** CardSoft(TM) 5.32.23 PCMCIA DRIVERS=20 ******
DEVICE=3DA:\CARDXTND.SYS
DEVICE=3DA:\SSCBTI.SYS /numada:2 = /ada1skts:2=20 /ada2skts:2
DEVICE=3DA:\CS.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=3DA:\CSALLOC.EXE
DEVIC= EHIGH=3DA:\ATADRV.EXE=20 /s:2
DEVICEHIGH=3DA:\MTSRAM.EXE
DEVICEHIGH=3DA:\MTDDRV.EXE
DEVIC= E=3DA:\CARDID.SYS
INSTALL=3DA:\CS_APM.EXE
 
REM ******* PANASONIC CD-ROM: KXLC005 *******
rem=20 DEVICE=3DA:\ATASMGR.SYS
rem DEVICE=3DA:\KMESATCD.SYS=20 /d:PCMCIACD
---------------------------------------------------
 
 
My autoexec.bat file for DOS=20 is:
----------------------------------
@ECHO OFF
SET=20 PATH=3DC:\Windows;C:\Windows\Command;
SET PROMPT=3D$p$g
SET=20 TMP=3DC:\windows\TEMP
SET TEMP=3DC:\windows\TEMP
SET = BLASTER=3DA220 I5 D1=20 T4
LOADHIGH A:\MSCDEX.EXE /d:PCMCIACD
A:\SMARTDRV.EXE /V 2048=20 2048
---------------------------------------------------
 
 
My CardSoft cardid.ini file=20 is:
--------------------------------
[Common]
; Common = Information=20 section created by=20 Config
ComPort1=3D3F8
ComIRQ1=3D4
ComPort2=3D2F8
ComIRQ2=3D3<= BR>ComPort3=3D3E8
ComIRQ3=3D11
ComPort4=3D2E8
ComIRQ4=3D3
Com= BySocket=3DNo
ComBDAAbsolute=3DYes
ComRollOverOn=3DYes
NoDOSMode= m=3DNo
FirstModem=3D3
SecondModem=3D4
ThirdModem=3D4
FourthMo= dem=3D4
Audio=3DYes
RingIndicate=3DYes
Lan1Port=3D300
Lan1IRQ= =3D5
Lan1MemoryBase1=3DD4
Lan1MemoryBase2=3DD6
Lan2Port=3D310Lan2IRQ=3D10
Lan2MemoryBase1=3DD8
Lan2MemoryBase2=3DDC
ATATryLi= near=3DYes
ATATryPrimary=3DYes
ATATrySecondary=3DYes
ATATryMemor= y=3DNo
FastTokenRing=3DNo
DetectNonCompliant=3DYes
ContinueOnCon= figFailure=3DNo
BeepInDOS=3DYes
BeepInWindows=3DNo
GrabInitFile=3D= Yes
InitBufferSize=3D512
FirstLan=3D1
SecondLan=3D2
ATAFirstC= onf=3D1
ATASecondConf=3D3
ATAThirdConf=3D4
ATAFourthConf=3D2
 
[Libraries]
; The Libraries section contains references to any = card=20 libraries the user
; wishes to include.  Libraries are searched = in the=20 specified order.  Path
; names are relative to the directory = containing=20 CARDID.INI.
CardLib=3DANYSCSI.CLB
CardLib=3DANYCOMBO.CLB
CardLib= =3DINTELLAN.CLB
CardLib=3DLINKSYS.CLB
CardLib=3DLINKSYS2.CLB
;Ca= rdLib=3DTDKLAN2.CLB
CardLib=3DSOCKETEA.CLB
CardLib=3DIBMLAN.CLB
= CardLib=3DIBMTOK.CLB
CardLib=3DIBM3270.CLB
CardLib=3DPROXIM.CLB
= CardLib=3DCBDAS.CLB
CardLib=3DGENATA.CLB
CardLib=3DGENMODEM.CLB
= ;CardLib=3DWD.CLB
---------------------------------------------------<= /DIV>
 

The result of cardinfo.exe=20 is:
----------------------------------------
SystemSoft PCMCIA = Card=20 Information Utility, Version 3.10 (2090-41)
Copyright 1992-1996 = SystemSoft=20 Corporation.  All Rights Reserved
 
Slot 1 Function 0:
 
  Slot is empty
 
Slot 2 Function 0:
  Manufacturer =3D "Kingston=20 Technology"
  Product Name =3D "DataPak 1GB"
  Device = Type =3D ATA=20 Disk
  Drive =3D F:
 
Slot 3 Function 0:
 
  Slot is empty
 
Slot 4 Function 0:
 
  Slot is=20 empty
---------------------------------------------------
 
 
The result of csalloc.exe/r=20 is:
---------------------------------
SystemSoft Plug-N-Play Card = Services=20 Allocation Utility Version 5.00 (5001-00)
Copyright 1993-1995 = SystemSoft=20 Corporation. All Rights Reserved.
 
MEM:
  D0000-D7FFF,2000000-21FFFFF
 
IOP:
 =20 100-16F,170-177(R),178-1EF,1F8-1FF,208-20F,210-21F(A),260-2E7,
  = 2E8-2EF(R),2F0-2F7,310-36F,370-377(R),378-387,390-3B7,3E8-3EF(R),
&nbs= p;=20 500-5FE(R),5FF-6FD(R),6FE-7FC(R),7FD-7FF(R),900-9FE(R),9FF-AFD(R),
&nb= sp;=20 AFE-BFC(R),BFD-BFF(R),D00-DFE(R),DFF-EFD(R),EFE-FFC(R),FFD-FFF(R),
&nb= sp;=20 6000-60FE,60FF-61FD,61FE-62FC,62FD-63FB,63FC-64FA,64FB-65F9,65FA-66F8, =20 66F9-67F7,67F8-68F6,68F7-69F5,69F6-6AF4,6AF5-6BF3,6BF4-6CF2,6CF3-6DF1, =20 6DF2-6EF0,6EF1-6FEF,6FF0-6FFF,8000-80FE,80FF-81FD,81FE-82FC,82FD-83FB, =20 83FC-84FA,84FB-85F9,85FA-86F8,86F9-87F7,87F8-88F6,88F7-89F5,89F6-8AF4, =20 8AF5-8BF3,8BF4-8CF2,8CF3-8DF1,8DF2-8EF0,8EF1-8FEF,8FF0-8FFF
 
IRQ:
  9,A,B(AR),F
 
DMA8:
 
DMA16:
 
(A) - Allocated.  (R) - Reserved.  (S) -=20 Shared.
---------------------------------------------------
 

My hard drive has FAT32.
While inserting the hard drive I = hear the=20 medium tone followed by high tone beep. According to CardSoft = documentation it=20 means that the CardSoft software is able to reconize and configure = PCCard.
 
When I try to access to my DataPak hard drive in DOS I got the = message:=20 "General failure reading drive F".
 
What should I change in my settings?
 
Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Alex = Kirkovsky
------=_NextPart_000_016F_01BF2C17.419336A0-- From cph Thu Nov 11 08:30:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA21764 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:30:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03702; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:25:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:24:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03607; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp5.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03594; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:24:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp5.mindspring.com (207.69.200.82 -> smtp5.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:24:52 -0500 Received: from wald5 (user-2iveaf6.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.41.230]) by smtp5.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA18941; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:24:43 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "Vincent Poy" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:26:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Vincent, I have this problem too, but not consistently every time I suspend. It's moot now, as I cannot suspend at all. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Vincent Poy [mailto:vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 6:50 PM To: William Armstrong Cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Suspend on 770Z Hi Bill, Win98SE is weird. With my machine, my ThinkPad modem will not work after I resume from suspend/standby. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Thu Nov 11 08:37:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA21787 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:37:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04627; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:33:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:33:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04554; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:33:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04541; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:33:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:33:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA06425; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:33:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:33:08 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: William Armstrong cc: ThinkPad List Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, William Armstrong wrote: Hi Bill, > I have this problem too, but not consistently every time I suspend. It's > moot now, as I cannot suspend at all. I'm not sure... But it seems like when before I suspend, I wasn't even using the modem and then after resuming, the modem doesn't respond. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Thu Nov 11 08:38:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA21794 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:38:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04968; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:37:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:37:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04893; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:37:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot017.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04880; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:37:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot017.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.117 -> pilot017.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:37:34 -0500 Received: from andres (pm451-10.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.68]) by pilot017.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA15924 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:37:32 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991111083725.00b01440@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:37:25 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: 2 meg floppy In-Reply-To: <19991111112217.34091.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: They're available in general, but I haven't seen them on TP's, myself. Media for them is expensive however, and in general things like the Zip drives have taken over. If you were to find a physically compatible 4M (formatting to 2.88M) drive, the bios might not be able to deal with it. All in all I think your chances of being able to use one are slim. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 03:22 AM 11/11/1999 PST, Rat Boy wrote: >Whatever happened to the 2Meg 3 1/2 inch floppy drive? Does IBM still offer >that on their laptops? > >Jimmy From cph Thu Nov 11 08:43:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA21814 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:43:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05497; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:42:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:42:15 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05423; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:42:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:42:14 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id IAA10725 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04268; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:29:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:29:27 -0500 Received: from ati-ga2-36.ix.netcom.com (ati-ga2-36.ix.netcom.com [207.222.234.100]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA18539; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:29:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911110429.XAA18539@smtp6.mindspring.com> From: "Allan" To: "David Ross" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:29:53 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <000801bf2bf1$038936a0$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's List-Unsubscribe: >From an old copy of "Windows 95 Secrets:" ...DCC is not able to give you the 14 kilobytes per second of file transfer speed that the 115,000 (self: from the newer UARTs) would imply. DCC is much slower on a serial cable than Laplink for Windows. Once you've used Laplink, DCC is essentially unusable. Amen. Regarding DCC on a parallel port, perhaps better throughput is available, particularly for enhanced ports." Use of IR for a DCC would seem to be limited to the maximum speed of IR. On my antique 760CD, that would be up to 115,000 for Generic mode, or 1.15Mbps using Thinkpad mode. (Now we are getting somewhere a bit faster.) Perhaps the newer TP's do better. My experience was with a cable hooked to two serial ports. Transmitting through two modems using those two ports can easily reach 28.8, or 115,000 theoretically with compression, on older modems. Using DCC on those same two ports will only make your hair fall out. It won't move very much data. On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:01:12 -1000, David Ross wrote: >> Don't know about IR, but DCC is slow as molassas. I used it >> once, just to see what it is all about, and shudder to remember >> the crawling pace. >> >> I think I'd just add a modem to the other machine, and use a 2nd >> line to RAS into it. > >Direct cabling (either through wire or through IR) is obviously faster than an analogue modem >on that port, since one can transmit at the maximum hardware speed of the slower of the two communications ports, whereas with a >modem there are in addition to these constraints the further constraint of the maximum modem speed. Even the IR - in general slower >than a cabled serial port - is faster than any standard modem (I'm not including ISDN et al here). I don't want to defend DCC as a >piece of *software*; indeed, my contribution to the thread was to point out that one can essentially establish RAS across a direct >(serial) connection, including IRdA, and avoid the DCC program. > >- David R. > From cph Thu Nov 11 09:42:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA22067 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:42:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09303; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:41:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:40:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09212; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:40:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from wodc7mr3.ffx.ops.us.uu.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09194; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:40:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from wodc7mr3.ffx.ops.us.uu.net (192.48.96.19 -> wodc7mr3.ffx.ops.us.uu.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:40:53 -0500 Received: from cheatriver.com by wodc7mr3.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: 1Cust145.tnt1.morristown2.nj.da.uu.net [63.17.19.145]) id QQhowo16352; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:44:37 GMT Message-ID: <382AD572.D032F5E0@cheatriver.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:40:50 -0500 From: Kathe Robin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Quantrill CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Rat Boy Subject: Re: 2.88 meg floppy References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: 4 MB floppies intended to format as 2.88Mb are marked as ED. They work in the 2.88Mb drives which were in the 750C and are available as new old stock for ~$25. I've got them in a 755CE and a 760ED and they work fine with latest BIOS. Seems like IBM just kept them in the ThinkPad BIOS even when they didn't catch on in the world in general. Regular 2MB/1.44MB HD floppies should NOT be formatted as 2.88MB or you will get large number of unusable tracks! MAx ------------------------------------------------------- email: m_robin@cheatriver.com smail: Max S. Robin, P.E. Cheat River Engineering Inc. 23 Richwood Place / P. O. Box 289 Denville, NJ 07834 - 0289 voice: 973 - 627 - 5895 fax: 973 - 627 - 5460 ------------------------------------------------------- From cph Thu Nov 11 09:55:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA22125 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:55:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10673; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:54:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:54:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10565; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:54:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10526; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:54:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:54:12 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [194.216.44.43]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17862; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:53:29 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [194.216.44.36]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA11578; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:53:23 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:53:22 +0000 To: Kathe Robin Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Rat Boy Subject: Re[2]: 2.88 meg floppy MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id JAA22126 I've never had much problem formatting normal ones to 2.88, even if there is the odd duff sector I still get much more than 1.44 out of them. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: 2.88 meg floppy Author: MIME:Kathe Robin at INTERNET Date: 11/11/99 2:46 PM 4 MB floppies intended to format as 2.88Mb are marked as ED. They work in the 2.88Mb drives which were in the 750C and are available as new old stock for ~$25. I've got them in a 755CE and a 760ED and they work fine with latest BIOS. Seems like IBM just kept them in the ThinkPad BIOS even when they didn't catch on in the world in general. Regular 2MB/1.44MB HD floppies should NOT be formatted as 2.88MB or you will get large number of unusable tracks! MAx ------------------------------------------------------- email: m_robin@cheatriver.com smail: Max S. Robin, P.E. Cheat River Engineering Inc. 23 Richwood Place / P. O. Box 289 Denville, NJ 07834 - 0289 voice: 973 - 627 - 5895 fax: 973 - 627 - 5460 ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Thu Nov 11 11:07:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA22479 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:07:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15908; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:05:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:04:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15778; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:04:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15760; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:04:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (192.134.240.50 -> uhbhic.uhb.fr) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:04:28 -0500 Received: from tp-770 (cb1341.rec.uhb.fr [172.16.5.11]) by uhbhic.uhb.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with SMTP id RAA28445 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:04:24 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <382AEB0F.64E4@uhb.fr> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:13:03 +0100 From: Sylvestre Meininger X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: IR between TPs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: While connecting a (Win95 TP 770ed) to a (Win 98 TP 560z) I've noticed that transfer rates are, well... VERY slow. I didn't expect 4Mbps, but it is definitely slower than LPT Direct Cable Connection. I have used : Intelisync 97, Win95/98 built in IR software, IR as DCC But all are slower than LPT DCC. Am I missing something, or is IR just another useless gadget ? PS : I totally agree with the person who said that IR printing is faster than LPT, but this doesn't seem to be true for PC-PC connection. PPS : would my problem have something to do with the fact that the (Win95 TP 770ed) doesn't list any IR Card nor IR Protocol under "Configuration Panel\Network" ? From cph Thu Nov 11 12:02:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA22834 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:02:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20060; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:59:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:59:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19921; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:59:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19908; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:59:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (132.187.1.7 -> wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:59:11 -0500 Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.2.12]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8/uniwue-MM-1.0) with ESMTP id RAA18758 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:59:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 11 Nov 99 17:59:05 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.44); 11 Nov 99 17:59:00 +0200 Received: from mail.stelarcom.de (132.187.248.75) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 11 Nov 99 17:58:53 +0200 Received: from babylon5 (babylon5.stelarcom.de [192.168.0.2] ) by mail.stelarcom.de (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:55:04 -0100 Message-Id: <199911102355.0431838.7@mail.stelarcom.de> From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:55:00 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Alexander Wagner" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.1999 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 760EL & Graphics List-Unsubscribe: Hi! Following problem: - Machine: ThinkPad 760EL Mod. Nr. 9747X4G - OS: OS/2 (of course) Everything is up and running, now try to install graphcis suport (SVGA 800x600). Download apropiate driver from IBM (including the check for Note 2 ;) -> Can not install driver for Trident xxxx. This is not Trident xxxx I checked the reported Trident-Version the TP returns using "SVGA STATUS" from the commandline. It tells me "Trident 8800, 1MB RAM" which obviously must be wrong. Any hints how I get this working? Additionally I'd need some X on that machine. Any hints for XFree86 for OS/2? (Appropriate modelines or where to find etc.) -- CU/2 (( In the beginning was The Word Alexander Wagner )) and The Word was Content-type: text/plain Team OS/2 Franken (( _________________________________________________________________________ -=[ Team OS/2 Germany #294 ]=- Please use only A.Wagner@TeamOS2.de or A.Wagner@Bigfoot.de for replies, even if some other addresses may appear. Thanks! Get my PGP-key with Subject: Request for PGP-Keys From cph Thu Nov 11 13:02:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA23190 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:02:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26055; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:00:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:58:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25820; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:58:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25806; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:58:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (207.0.68.7 -> home.dwave.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:58:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.9.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id MAA09957 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:00:19 -0600 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:00:18 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 2.88MB floppy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: It's possible and easy to format HD floppies to ED densities and use most of the disk on the SAME DRIVE you used to format the disk. Trying to use this disk in another ED drive will likely be either humorous or tragic, depending on your viewpoint. I've got a 750P with the ED drive. I bought exactly one box of ten ED floppies years ago and recently reformatted them to HD because no other machine I've been around has an ED drive. Chris Schumann "Wait a minute, Joe. If what you're saying is true, then I still don't care." - Dave Nelson, News Radio From cph Thu Nov 11 13:11:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA23250 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:11:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26861; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:09:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:07:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26648; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:07:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from spamraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26633; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:07:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from spamraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.217.142 -> as-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:07:34 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spamraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.1) id NAA26478 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:07:30 -0500 (EST) Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from pcb502818 (sfr-tgn-sfv-vty71.as.wcom.net [216.192.40.71]) by spamraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.1) with SMTP id NAA26385 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:07:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911111807.NAA26385@spamraaa.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:24:50 -0800 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:50:47 -0500 (EST), Allan wrote: >Don't know about IR, but DCC is slow as molassas. >I used it once, just to see what it is all about, >and shudder to remember the crawling pace. Was that on a serial or parallel connection? When I first got the TP, I wanted to move files over from my desktop machine. Of course I bought a serial cable because "that's what you use" for communication. I ignored the advice of the guy in the store who told me to use parallel. The serial was so slow I went out a bought parallel. It flew! (At least in comparison to the serial; of course ethernet is much faster). andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/LongBeachCA.html From cph Thu Nov 11 15:16:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA24496 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:16:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06525; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:15:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:12:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06299; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:12:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06284; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:12:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:12:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13839; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:12:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:12:11 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Andrew Webber cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's In-Reply-To: <199911111807.NAA26385@spamraaa.compuserve.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Andrew Webber wrote: > The serial was so slow I went out a bought parallel. It flew! (At > least in comparison to the serial; of course ethernet is much > faster). I think Parallel can do 35k/sec versus the Serial which is 11.5k/sec. The parrallel might also make the machine unusable by the person though. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Thu Nov 11 16:06:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA24831 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:06:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10582; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:03:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10397; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:03:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10378; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:03:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:03:05 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA21132; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:02:54 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <002501bf2c88$208932e0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Vincent Poy" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:02:53 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > I think Parallel can do 35k/sec versus the Serial which is > 11.5k/sec. Parallel - especially configured as ECP is a much faster hardware protocol, though some serial ports do allow faster speeds. However, one is limited to using software that can talk to a parallel port: DCC (which some people have trouble with, and which - on W95 anyway - is unidirectional unless you use the 'fool protocol' trick) and commercial stuff like Laplink. As I already wrote, one can establish a PPP or other Windows Networking connection over a serial port, including an IR port. > The parrallel might also make the machine unusable by the > person though. There shouldn't be much or any more overhead with a parallel port connection than with, say, an ethernet connection. When you use something like File Manager to copy files, it takes very high priority in the machine, so the faster the connection the sooner you get your machine back. From cph Thu Nov 11 16:08:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA24851 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:08:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10964; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:07:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:06:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10763; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:06:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from server2.snelnet.nl (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10750; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:06:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from server2.snelnet.nl (192.87.106.106 -> server2.snelnet.nl) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:06:16 -0500 Received: from netlinq.nl (adsl-145-99-66-109.snelnet.nl [145.99.66.109]) by server2.snelnet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00476 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:08:38 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <382B2FE5.C1280832@netlinq.nl> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:06:45 +0100 From: Jeroen Elfferich Reply-To: jeroen@netlinq.nl Organization: http://www.netlinq.nl/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: IBM announces 2048 x 1536 21" LCD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Not for notebooks, obviously, but this development makes me wonder what we can expect from IBM in Thinkpad LCD's. Will it be a 1400 x 1050 successor to the 770Z? A higher res 600? The story is at http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/991110/ibm_techno_1.html Jeroen From cph Thu Nov 11 16:10:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA24868 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:10:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11215; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:07:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10935; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10879; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:07:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:07:42 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA21148; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:07:29 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <002b01bf2c88$c45bfb00$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Sylvestre Meininger" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" References: <382AEB0F.64E4@uhb.fr> Subject: Re: IR between TPs Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:07:28 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > But all are slower than LPT DCC. > > Am I missing something, or is IR just another useless gadget ? IR is certainly slower than wire, but I wouldn;t call it useless, especially when coupled with a compressing protocol (e.g. PPP). If conditions are right it is over twice as fast as a 56K modem; are modems useless gadgets? > PPS : would my problem have something to do with the fact that the > (Win95 TP 770ed) doesn't list any IR Card nor IR Protocol under > "Configuration Panel\Network" ? No. Network protocols attach to adapters, not ports or devices. IR is a device, when coupled with the WIndows IR driver it becomes a port, though still not an adapter. - David R. From cph Thu Nov 11 21:21:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA27188 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:21:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04721; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:19:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:12:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04205; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAIL01 (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04191; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAIL01 (206.244.186.11 -> mail.toast.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:12:25 -0500 Received: from ibm6000 - 38.26.5.84 by toast.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:09:45 -0500 Message-ID: <010001bf2cb2$d63bb020$54051a26@ibm6000> From: "Damil Idgaf" To: "Esmail Bonakdarian" , Cc: , References: <199911101652.KAA19013@europa.veggie.com> Subject: Re: TP560/Linux/Wheelmouse?? Anyone?? Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:09:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: unsuscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: Esmail Bonakdarian To: Cc: ; Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 11:52 AM Subject: Re: TP560/Linux/Wheelmouse?? Anyone?? > kend@cisco.com writes: > > > > I think your protocol is probably wrong; unfortunately, since I'm on a > > Toshiba at the moment, I can't speak authoritatively. However, my > > protocol is listed as... > > > > section "Pointer" > > Protocol "PS/2" > > Device "/dev/mouse" > > Hi Ken, > > Yes, you are correct, there is a problem with the protocol (in a > way). If I use PS/2 protocol, the mouse works as a simple 2-button > mouse. If I use the Emulate3Buttons then I can get "3 buttons" to work > (when I press both buttons at the same time). > > However, I can't get the wheel to work (as a wheel or a center button) > as I can with my desktop. > > The "imps/2" protocol is supposed to get this to work... > > I've really gotten used to using the wheel, really cool. It would be > great if I could get this to work with Linux on the TP too. > > If you check your toshiba and come up with something else, please let > me know. > > Thanks! > > Esmail > > > Give that a go. For my desktop, which has an HP (OEM?) wheelmouse, it's > > Section "Pointer" > > Protocol "IMPS/2" > > Device "/dev/mouse" > > ZAxisMapping 4 5 > > > > > > Hope this helps... > > > > -Ken > > > > On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Esmail Bonakdarian wrote: > > > > > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:20:51 -0600 (CST) > > > From: Esmail Bonakdarian > > > Reply-To: esmail@uiowa.edu > > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > > Subject: TP560/Linux/Wheelmouse?? Anyone?? > > > > > > Greetings. > > > > > > Has anyone been able to get a wheelmouse to work with a TP under > > > Linux? > > > > > > Specifically, XFree 3.3.3.1, Kernel 2.2.5, TP 560x and MS > > > intelli/wheel mouse. > > > > > > Once I disabled the trackpoint with the help of the Win TP config > > > program I got this to work under Win 95 (after I loaded the necessary > > > drivers). > > > > > > Under linux, the moment I get into X, my mouse just wants to be in the > > > top right corner and none of the mouse buttons seem to do anything > > > much. I can try to move the mouse pointer to the center .. but it > > > zooms back up to the top right. I end up Cntrl-Alt-Backspace to get > > > out of X. > > > > > > This is what I have in my XF86Config. > > > > > > > > > Section "Pointer" > > > Device "/dev/psaux" > > > # Emulate3Buttons > > > # Emulate3Timeout 50 > > > # Protocol "PS/2" > > > ZAxisMapping 4 5 > > > Protocol "imps/2" > > > Buttons 3 > > > EndSection > > > > > > > > > By the way, I was able to get this mouse to work fine on my desktop > > > using the instructions found at: > > > > > > http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ > > > > > > I pretty much used the same setup for the TP, but no go. > > > > > > Esmail > > > ---- > > > Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak > > > > > > > > > > ---- > Esmail Bonakdarian - esmail@uiowa.edu - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~bonak > [ per aspera ad astra ] From cph Thu Nov 11 21:30:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA27227 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:30:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05392; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:29:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:25:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05142; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:25:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05129; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:25:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.42 -> mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:25:09 -0500 Received: from kaste ([12.75.199.208]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991112022508.UBMY23762@kaste> for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 02:25:08 +0000 Message-ID: <001201bf2cb5$0d853680$d0c74b0c@kaste> From: "Kaste" To: Subject: Eraser Pointers Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:24:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: I was wondering if anyone knew where to purcashe the little eraser pointers for thinkpad computers. The one I have has worn off and it barley useable. Thanks Garrett Kaste From cph Thu Nov 11 22:12:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA27388 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:12:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07605; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:10:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:07:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07333; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:07:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07320; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.200.246 -> smtp10.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:07:47 -0500 Received: from wald5 (user-2ivebte.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.47.174]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA31549; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:07:38 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "Vincent Poy" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 00:13:51 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Vincent, I'm pretty sure that my modem fails regardless of whether I have used the modem or not. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Vincent Poy [mailto:vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 8:33 AM To: William Armstrong Cc: ThinkPad List Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, William Armstrong wrote: Hi Bill, > I have this problem too, but not consistently every time I suspend. It's > moot now, as I cannot suspend at all. I'm not sure... But it seems like when before I suspend, I wasn't even using the modem and then after resuming, the modem doesn't respond. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Thu Nov 11 22:12:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA27393 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:12:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07609; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:10:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:07:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07295; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:07:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07282; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:07:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.200.246 -> smtp10.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:07:39 -0500 Received: from wald5 (user-2ivebte.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.47.174]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA06836; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:07:36 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 00:13:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <001301bf2c7a$30061340$34d8a8c0@CE> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Kirk, I have a HP USB scanner, but my suspend problem occurs regardless of whether it's connected or not. Whose scanner are you using? Bill -----Original Message----- From: Kirk Cross [mailto:kcross@crosseng.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 2:23 PM To: 'William Armstrong' Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z I have the same issue on my 770Z, but only when my USB scanner is attached. Do you have any USB devices connected while trying to suspend? -----Original Message----- From: William Armstrong [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 3:15 PM To: ThinkPad List Subject: Suspend on 770Z Earlier this week my 770Z mysteriously stopped suspending. I had not just installed anything. I'm using Win98SE over the original preinstall version of Win98. When I go to Standby from the Start/Shutdown button I get a message saying that either a driver or a software program is preventing the laptop from entering standby. Anyone have any ideas where the problem might be? Thank you, Bill Armstrong From cph Thu Nov 11 22:25:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA27470 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:25:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08472; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:23:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:18:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08053; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:18:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAIL01 (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08028; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:18:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAIL01 (206.244.186.11 -> mail.toast.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:18:38 -0500 Received: from ibm6000 - 38.26.5.152 by toast.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:16:12 -0500 Message-ID: <001901bf2bf2$f4159b80$98051a26@ibm6000> From: "Damil Idgaf" To: "Kaste" , References: <001201bf2cb5$0d853680$d0c74b0c@kaste> Subject: Re: Eraser Pointers Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:14:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe please ----- Original Message ----- From: Kaste To: Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 9:24 PM Subject: Eraser Pointers > I was wondering if anyone knew where to purcashe the little eraser pointers > for thinkpad computers. The one I have has worn off and it barley useable. > > Thanks > Garrett Kaste > From cph Thu Nov 11 22:25:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA27474 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:25:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08502; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:23:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:18:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08076; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:18:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAIL01 (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08036; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:18:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAIL01 (206.244.186.11 -> mail.toast.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:18:40 -0500 Received: from ibm6000 - 38.26.5.152 by toast.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:16:10 -0500 Message-ID: <001801bf2bf2$f2d83980$98051a26@ibm6000> From: "Damil Idgaf" To: "William Armstrong" , Cc: "ThinkPad List" References: Subject: Re: Suspend on 770Z Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:14:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe please ----- Original Message ----- From: William Armstrong To: Cc: ThinkPad List Sent: Friday, January 01, 1999 12:13 AM Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z > Kirk, > > I have a HP USB scanner, but my suspend problem occurs regardless of whether > it's connected or not. Whose scanner are you using? > > Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: Kirk Cross [mailto:kcross@crosseng.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 2:23 PM > To: 'William Armstrong' > Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z > > I have the same issue on my 770Z, but only when my USB scanner is attached. > Do you have any USB devices connected while trying to suspend? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Armstrong [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 3:15 PM > To: ThinkPad List > Subject: Suspend on 770Z > > > > Earlier this week my 770Z mysteriously stopped suspending. I had not just > installed anything. I'm using Win98SE over the original preinstall version > of Win98. When I go to Standby from the Start/Shutdown button I get a > message saying that either a driver or a software program is preventing the > laptop from entering standby. > > Anyone have any ideas where the problem might be? > > Thank you, > Bill Armstrong > From cph Thu Nov 11 22:25:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA27482 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:25:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08509; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:23:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:18:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08008; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:18:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAIL01 (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07994; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:18:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAIL01 (206.244.186.11 -> mail.toast.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:18:34 -0500 Received: from ibm6000 - 38.26.5.152 by toast.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:16:08 -0500 Message-ID: <001701bf2bf2$f1a278a0$98051a26@ibm6000> From: "Damil Idgaf" To: "William Armstrong" , "Vincent Poy" Cc: "ThinkPad List" References: Subject: Re: Suspend on 770Z Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:14:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe please ----- Original Message ----- From: William Armstrong To: Vincent Poy Cc: ThinkPad List Sent: Friday, January 01, 1999 12:13 AM Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z > Vincent, > > I'm pretty sure that my modem fails regardless of whether I have used the > modem or not. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vincent Poy [mailto:vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM] > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 8:33 AM > To: William Armstrong > Cc: ThinkPad List > Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z > > On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, William Armstrong wrote: > > Hi Bill, > > > I have this problem too, but not consistently every time I suspend. It's > > moot now, as I cannot suspend at all. > > I'm not sure... But it seems like when before I suspend, I wasn't > even using the modem and then after resuming, the modem doesn't respond. > > > Cheers, > Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / [__ ] > GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] > Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > From cph Thu Nov 11 23:19:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA27762 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:19:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11328; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:17:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:14:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11130; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:14:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11116; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:14:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA15741; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:14:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:14:21 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: David Ross cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's In-Reply-To: <002501bf2c88$208932e0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, David Ross wrote: > > I think Parallel can do 35k/sec versus the Serial which is > > 11.5k/sec. > > Parallel - especially configured as ECP is a much faster hardware protocol, though some serial ports do allow faster speeds. > However, one is limited to using software that can talk to a parallel port: DCC > (which some people have trouble with, and which - on W95 anyway - is unidirectional unless you use > the 'fool protocol' trick) and commercial stuff like Laplink. As I already wrote, one can establish a > PPP or other Windows Networking connection over a serial port, including an IR port. > > > The parrallel might also make the machine unusable by the > > person though. > > There shouldn't be much or any more overhead with a parallel port connection than with, say, an ethernet connection. When you use > something like File Manager to copy files, it takes very high priority in the machine, so the faster the connection the sooner you > get your machine back. I don't remember but in Win95 on a Compaq Machine which had LapLink Pro, the computer was slow while it was doing the transfer using the parallel port. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Thu Nov 11 23:25:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA27796 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:25:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11704; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:23:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:19:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11508; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11494; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:19:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:19:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA15812; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:19:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:19:26 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: William Armstrong cc: ThinkPad List Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 1 Jan 1999, William Armstrong wrote: > I'm pretty sure that my modem fails regardless of whether I have used the > modem or not. Same here and one other problem after using the Win98SE Updates CD, if I leave the machine on and don't use it for any period of time, even 15 minutes. The machine will hang solid with a black screen as if it was off and the only way to get the machine to respond is to hit the reset button on the side of the machine since even the power button doesn't do a thing. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Thu Nov 11 23:33:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA27838 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:33:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12304; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:32:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:29:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12076; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:29:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12060; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:29:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:29:23 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA22736; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:29:17 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <002b01bf2cc6$7cd5db00$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Vincent Poy" Cc: "ThinkPad List" References: Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:29:16 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > I don't remember but in Win95 on a Compaq Machine which had > LapLink Pro, the computer was slow while it was doing the transfer using > the parallel port. Was it faster over any other connection? This could have been a computational overhead due to Laplink's compression algorithm, rather than the port itself. After all, most of the hard work in transferring bits over either a parallel or a serial port is done by dedicated hardware, not by the CPU or OS. - David R. From cph Thu Nov 11 23:36:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA27860 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:36:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12616; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:35:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:32:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12344; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:32:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12319; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:32:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:32:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA17457; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:32:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:32:00 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: David Ross cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's In-Reply-To: <002b01bf2cc6$7cd5db00$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, David Ross wrote: > > I don't remember but in Win95 on a Compaq Machine which had > > LapLink Pro, the computer was slow while it was doing the transfer using > > the parallel port. > > Was it faster over any other connection? This could have been a computational overhead > due to Laplink's compression algorithm, rather than the port itself. After all, most of the hard work > in transferring bits over either a parallel or a serial port is done by dedicated hardware, not by the > CPU or OS. I didn't try but I know on the thinkpad, my ethernet connection doesn't take over the resources of the machine.... But I do know that with Parallel, it does do the same problem when I used PCAnywhere 9.0 between the 770Z and my Desktop over Parallel but works fine over Ethernet... It's kinda like when you connect a ZIP Drive to the Parallel port... Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Fri Nov 12 00:00:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA27943 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:00:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14139; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:59:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:55:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13933; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:55:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13920; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:55:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.200.246 -> smtp10.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:55:56 -0500 Received: from wald5 (user-2ivebmj.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.46.211]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA05497; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:55:53 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "Vincent Poy" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:56:48 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Vincent, You have got problems! I think I just solved my Suspend problem. MS has a little program called PMSHOOT.EXE that's intended as a troubleshooter for suspend/standby issues. I ran the program and it pointed to the WinFax controller as the problem. I turned off the Controller and voila!, Suspend worked. Next I went into the program setup for WinFax and poked around. I discovered that the ThinkPad modem was not activated within WinFax. I mostly use Concord Technologies Internet faxing these days from within WinFax, so I might not have noticed that the ThinkPad modem was deactivated. How it got deactivated is another question, but once I rechecked the active box for the ThinkPad modem everything seemed to return to normal. I can now suspend OK. Go figure! Bill WILLIAM ARMSTRONG LIGHTING DESIGN 666 West End Avenue New York, NY 10025-7357 Tel (212) 579-0698 Fax (212) 579-0699 -----Original Message----- From: Vincent Poy [mailto:vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 11:19 PM To: William Armstrong Cc: ThinkPad List Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z On Fri, 1 Jan 1999, William Armstrong wrote: > I'm pretty sure that my modem fails regardless of whether I have used the > modem or not. Same here and one other problem after using the Win98SE Updates CD, if I leave the machine on and don't use it for any period of time, even 15 minutes. The machine will hang solid with a black screen as if it was off and the only way to get the machine to respond is to hit the reset button on the side of the machine since even the power button doesn't do a thing. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Fri Nov 12 00:07:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA27987 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:07:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14838; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:05:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:02:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14451; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:02:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14429; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:02:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:02:41 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA22841; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 19:02:36 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <003d01bf2ccb$23f1dde0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Vincent Poy" Cc: "ThinkPad List" References: Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 19:02:36 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Vince: > I didn't try but I know on the thinkpad, my ethernet connection > doesn't take over the resources of the machine.... But I do know that > with Parallel, it does do the same problem when I used PCAnywhere 9.0 > between the 770Z and my Desktop over Parallel but works fine over > Ethernet... I'm not sure what you're saying here - obviously PC Anywhere will be very substantially faster over an Ethernet connection than over a parallel port. (I say "obviously", though in fact I don;t know anything about the technicalities of either PC Anywhere or Lapland:-) Do you mean other operations at the same time? For example, if you transfer such a huge file using PC Anywhere that even over the ethernet it takes several minutes, then try to do something else (e.g., play a game) on the (local) sending machine, will the game be noticeably slower when you use the parallel port for the file transfer than when you use ethernet? This is unexpected and interesting if true. - David R. From cph Fri Nov 12 00:21:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA28044 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:21:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15512; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:19:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:16:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15389; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:16:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15369; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:16:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:16:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA23114; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:15:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:15:51 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: David Ross cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Networking/Transfering Data between two TP's In-Reply-To: <003d01bf2ccb$23f1dde0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, David Ross wrote: Hello David, > Vince: > > I didn't try but I know on the thinkpad, my ethernet connection > > doesn't take over the resources of the machine.... But I do know that > > with Parallel, it does do the same problem when I used PCAnywhere 9.0 > > between the 770Z and my Desktop over Parallel but works fine over > > Ethernet... > > I'm not sure what you're saying here - obviously PC Anywhere will be very substantially faster over an Ethernet connection than over > a parallel port. (I say "obviously", though in fact I don;t know anything about the technicalities of either PC Anywhere or > Lapland:-) Do you mean other operations at the same time? For example, if you transfer such a huge file using PC Anywhere that > even over the ethernet it takes several minutes, then try to do something else (e.g., play a game) on the (local) sending machine, > will the game be noticeably slower when you use the parallel port for the file transfer than when you use ethernet? This is > unexpected and interesting if true. Not sure but let me give you a good example... Let's just say that you can't use the computer when the parallel port is in use. It's like very slow. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Fri Nov 12 00:44:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA28143 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:44:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16609; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:43:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:39:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16445; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:39:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16431; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:39:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (198.206.134.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:39:56 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-290.gate.net [199.227.131.99]) by shuswap.gate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20486; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:39:51 -0500 Message-ID: <382BA838.2C1DFFA6@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:40:08 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JC CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770 ed new bios References: <3.0.5.32.19991111060212.008eb7a0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Jerry... this is NOT unusual.. i've had it happen to me on many different machines.. in the back of my mind is something to the effect that the OS is seeing a change so it reboots.. and tha' and tha' and tha's ALL folks.. :-) JC wrote: > I have a 770ed 9549 5AU, using bios 1.3 I am > getting beeping , then a reboot upon cold start. > I have nothing attached to the computer. I did initialize and it still beeps, > then reboots, very annoying, something is wrong with this version. I ran > all the diags and the machine checks ok. > > This did not happen with the old bios. > > Anyone else have this? > > Any Idea's > Jerry Cudmore -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Fri Nov 12 00:49:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA28167 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:49:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17008; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:48:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:45:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16841; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:45:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16826; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:45:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (198.206.134.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:45:40 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-290.gate.net [199.227.131.99]) by shuswap.gate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA28342; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:45:12 -0500 Message-ID: <382BA978.B3A2BF46@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:45:29 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Quantrill CC: Rat Boy , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , Allan Subject: Re: 2.88 meg floppy References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The 2.88meg floppies use "ED" diskettes.. the square hole is offset from the more ordinary "HD" floppy diskettes.. so i doubt giving an argument to a format command in DOS will work.. a hole punch might work though.. :-) Adam Quantrill wrote: > Yes. > > You can specify the exact density as an arg to the format command. > > Format will format an already formatted floppy to the same density as it was to start with, by default. As a lot of floppies are pre-formatted these days, you might need to use the argument. > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Re: 2.88 meg floppy > Author: MIME:"Allan" at INTERNET > Date: 11/11/99 12:21 PM > > I have a 2.88 Mb drive on my 760CD, but don't know how to use it . Do these drives format regular 1.44 disks to 2.88? > > On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:15:37 +0000, Adam Quantrill wrote: > > >No idea, but I've got a 2.88 on a 755C, but presumably just a 1.44 on a 755CX. > > > > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > >Subject: 2 meg floppy > >Author: MIME:"Rat Boy" at INTERNET >Date: 11/11/99 11:29 AM > > > > > >Whatever happened to the 2Meg 3 1/2 inch floppy drive? Does IBM still offer that on their laptops? > > > >Jimmy > > > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------ >Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > >Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 >Harston http://www.generics.co.uk >Cambridge CB2 5NH > >United Kingdom > >Registered in England No 2081960 > >------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > Harston http://www.generics.co.uk > Cambridge CB2 5NH > United Kingdom > Registered in England No 2081960 > ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Fri Nov 12 00:53:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA28183 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:53:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17237; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:52:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:49:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17096; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:49:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17083; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:49:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (198.206.134.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:49:20 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-290.gate.net [199.227.131.99]) by shuswap.gate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA35414; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:49:15 -0500 Message-ID: <382BAA6C.DFF358B0@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:49:32 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jeroen@netlinq.nl CC: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: IBM announces 2048 x 1536 21" LCD References: <382B2FE5.C1280832@netlinq.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: most likely all of the abo... uhh, below.. :-) and as a happy (mostly) owner of two 16ingh IBM TFT displays.. they are SUPER.. (except for the crappy stand and the fans) Jeroen Elfferich wrote: > Not for notebooks, obviously, but this development makes me > wonder what we can expect from IBM in Thinkpad LCD's. Will it > be a 1400 x 1050 successor to the 770Z? A higher res 600? > > The story is at http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/991110/ibm_techno_1.html > > Jeroen -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Fri Nov 12 00:59:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA28197 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:59:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17528; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:58:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:55:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17361; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:55:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17348; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:55:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:55:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA43426; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:54:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:54:53 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Bill Morrow cc: jeroen@netlinq.nl, ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: IBM announces 2048 x 1536 21" LCD In-Reply-To: <382BAA6C.DFF358B0@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Bill Morrow wrote: > most likely all of the abo... uhh, below.. :-) > > and as a happy (mostly) owner of two 16ingh IBM TFT displays.. they are > SUPER.. > (except for the crappy stand and the fans) Hmmm, they have fans? What video cards are you using with it? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Fri Nov 12 01:08:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA28223 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 01:08:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17926; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 01:06:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 01:03:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17781; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 01:03:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17765; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 01:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 01:03:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA43469; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:03:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:03:33 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: William Armstrong cc: ThinkPad List Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, William Armstrong wrote: Hey Bill, Yep, definitely major problems that can result in corrupted data. Where did you find the PMSHOOT.EXE file since I don't have it on my system. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > Vincent, > > You have got problems! > > I think I just solved my Suspend problem. MS has a little program called > PMSHOOT.EXE that's intended as a troubleshooter for suspend/standby issues. > I ran the program and it pointed to the WinFax controller as the problem. I > turned off the Controller and voila!, Suspend worked. Next I went into the > program setup for WinFax and poked around. I discovered that the ThinkPad > modem was not activated within WinFax. I mostly use Concord Technologies > Internet faxing these days from within WinFax, so I might not have noticed > that the ThinkPad modem was deactivated. How it got deactivated is another > question, but once I rechecked the active box for the ThinkPad modem > everything seemed to return to normal. I can now suspend OK. Go figure! > > Bill > > WILLIAM ARMSTRONG LIGHTING DESIGN > 666 West End Avenue > New York, NY 10025-7357 > Tel (212) 579-0698 Fax (212) 579-0699 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vincent Poy [mailto:vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM] > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 11:19 PM > To: William Armstrong > Cc: ThinkPad List > Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z > > On Fri, 1 Jan 1999, William Armstrong wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure that my modem fails regardless of whether I have used the > > modem or not. > > Same here and one other problem after using the Win98SE Updates > CD, if I leave the machine on and don't use it for any period of time, > even 15 minutes. The machine will hang solid with a black screen as if it > was off and the only way to get the machine to respond is to hit the reset > button on the side of the machine since even the power button doesn't do a > thing. > > > Cheers, > Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] > GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] > Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > > From cph Fri Nov 12 04:25:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA28695 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 04:25:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25758; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 04:24:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 04:22:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25635; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 04:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25620; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 04:22:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 04:22:29 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [194.216.44.43]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24760; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:22:06 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [194.216.44.36]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA23414; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:22:00 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 9:21:47 +0000 To: Bill Morrow Cc: Rat Boy , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , Allan Subject: Re[2]: 2.88 meg floppy MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id EAA28696 Well the 2.88 drive in my 755C doesn't 'sense' the hole, or the driver doesn't object. My boot floppy for linux (that's another story) is a HD one formatted to 2.88 by me under DOS so I can have a few DOS utils or other files on it. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: 2.88 meg floppy Author: MIME:Bill Morrow at INTERNET Date: 11/12/99 5:47 AM The 2.88meg floppies use "ED" diskettes.. the square hole is offset from the more ordinary "HD" floppy diskettes.. so i doubt giving an argument to a format command in DOS will work.. a hole punch might work though.. :-) Adam Quantrill wrote: > Yes. > > You can specify the exact density as an arg to the format command. > > Format will format an already formatted floppy to the same density as it was to start with, by default. As a lot of floppies are pre-formatted these days, you might need to use the argument. > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Re: 2.88 meg floppy > Author: MIME:"Allan" at INTERNET > Date: 11/11/99 12:21 PM > > I have a 2.88 Mb drive on my 760CD, but don't know how to use it . Do these drives format regular 1.44 disks to 2.88? > > On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:15:37 +0000, Adam Quantrill wrote: > > >No idea, but I've got a 2.88 on a 755C, but presumably just a 1.44 on a 755CX. > > > > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > >Subject: 2 meg floppy > >Author: MIME:"Rat Boy" at INTERNET >Date: 11/11/99 11:29 AM > > > > > >Whatever happened to the 2Meg 3 1/2 inch floppy drive? Does IBM still offer that on their laptops? > > > >Jimmy > > > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------ >Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > >Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 >Harston http://www.generics.co.uk >Cambridge CB2 5NH > >United Kingdom > >Registered in England No 2081960 > >------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > Harston http://www.generics.co.uk > Cambridge CB2 5NH > United Kingdom > Registered in England No 2081960 > ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Fri Nov 12 04:32:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA28712 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 04:32:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA26666; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 04:29:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 04:28:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25912; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 04:28:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25898; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 04:28:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 04:28:05 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [194.216.44.43]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24855 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:28:08 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [194.216.44.36]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA23531 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:28:02 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 9:27:56 +0000 Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Linux boot from HDD (again) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id EAA28713 I can't quite get my head around what is happening here. When I attempt to boot linux from a 540MB HDD the bios doesn't think there is a drive in there and ask for a floppy. But it's fine booting from floppy, and root being on the HDD. HOWEVER if I put the thinkpad in my docking station, it then boots from the HDD fine. I have previously been able to boot from the HDD standalone, but the situation usually changes after the first successful attempt. Ideas? - Adam ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Fri Nov 12 06:05:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA29062 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 06:05:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07023; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 06:03:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 06:01:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA06897; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 06:01:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA06884; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 06:00:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.200.246 -> smtp10.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 06:00:55 -0500 Received: from wald5 (user-2ivebvo.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.47.248]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA21865; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 06:00:20 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "Vincent Poy" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 06:01:15 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01BF2CD3.5449AF60" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BF2CD3.5449AF60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Vincent, Here's the file. The URL that I have for the file is: http://support.microsoft.com/isapi/support/apgts/apgts.dll If you can't get the URL to work you might try a find in MS support for PMTSHOOT.EXE. Good luck, Bill -----Original Message----- From: Vincent Poy [mailto:vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM] Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 1:04 AM To: William Armstrong Cc: ThinkPad List Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, William Armstrong wrote: Hey Bill, Yep, definitely major problems that can result in corrupted data. Where did you find the PMSHOOT.EXE file since I don't have it on my system. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > Vincent, > > You have got problems! > > I think I just solved my Suspend problem. MS has a little program called > PMSHOOT.EXE that's intended as a troubleshooter for suspend/standby issues. > I ran the program and it pointed to the WinFax controller as the problem. I > turned off the Controller and voila!, Suspend worked. Next I went into the > program setup for WinFax and poked around. I discovered that the ThinkPad > modem was not activated within WinFax. I mostly use Concord Technologies > Internet faxing these days from within WinFax, so I might not have noticed > that the ThinkPad modem was deactivated. 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On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 at 06:01 AM you, "William Armstrong" , said: >Vincent, >Here's the file. The URL that I have for the file is: From cph Fri Nov 12 09:00:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA29883 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:00:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07172; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:59:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06956; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:59:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAIL01 (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06908; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:58:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAIL01 (206.244.186.11 -> mail.toast.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:58:41 -0500 Received: from ibm6000 - 38.26.5.106 by toast.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:56:18 -0500 Message-ID: <013301bf2c4c$5c67b3e0$98051a26@ibm6000> From: "Damil Idgaf" To: "Bill Morrow" , Cc: "ThinkPad Mailing List" References: <382B2FE5.C1280832@netlinq.nl> <382BAA6C.DFF358B0@icanect.net> Subject: Re: IBM announces 2048 x 1536 21" LCD Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:52:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe please ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morrow To: Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 12:49 AM Subject: Re: IBM announces 2048 x 1536 21" LCD > most likely all of the abo... uhh, below.. :-) > > and as a happy (mostly) owner of two 16ingh IBM TFT displays.. they are > SUPER.. > (except for the crappy stand and the fans) > > Jeroen Elfferich wrote: > > > Not for notebooks, obviously, but this development makes me > > wonder what we can expect from IBM in Thinkpad LCD's. Will it > > be a 1400 x 1050 successor to the 770Z? A higher res 600? > > > > The story is at http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/991110/ibm_techno_1.html > > > > Jeroen > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > From cph Fri Nov 12 09:01:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA29887 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:01:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07170; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:59:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06975; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:59:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAIL01 (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06934; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:59:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAIL01 (206.244.186.11 -> mail.toast.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:59:11 -0500 Received: from ibm6000 - 38.26.5.106 by toast.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:56:20 -0500 Message-ID: <013401bf2c4c$5dc82e40$98051a26@ibm6000> From: "Damil Idgaf" To: "Adam Quantrill" , "Bill Morrow" Cc: "Rat Boy" , , "Allan" References: Subject: Re: Re[2]: 2.88 meg floppy Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:52:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe please ----- Original Message ----- From: Adam Quantrill To: Bill Morrow Cc: Rat Boy ; ; Allan Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 4:21 AM Subject: Re[2]: 2.88 meg floppy Well the 2.88 drive in my 755C doesn't 'sense' the hole, or the driver doesn't object. My boot floppy for linux (that's another story) is a HD one formatted to 2.88 by me under DOS so I can have a few DOS utils or other files on it. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: 2.88 meg floppy Author: MIME:Bill Morrow at INTERNET Date: 11/12/99 5:47 AM The 2.88meg floppies use "ED" diskettes.. the square hole is offset from the more ordinary "HD" floppy diskettes.. so i doubt giving an argument to a format command in DOS will work.. a hole punch might work though.. :-) Adam Quantrill wrote: > Yes. > > You can specify the exact density as an arg to the format command. > > Format will format an already formatted floppy to the same density as it was to start with, by default. As a lot of floppies are pre-formatted these days, you might need to use the argument. > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Re: 2.88 meg floppy > Author: MIME:"Allan" at INTERNET > Date: 11/11/99 12:21 PM > > I have a 2.88 Mb drive on my 760CD, but don't know how to use it . Do these drives format regular 1.44 disks to 2.88? > > On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:15:37 +0000, Adam Quantrill wrote: > > >No idea, but I've got a 2.88 on a 755C, but presumably just a 1.44 on a 755CX. > > > > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > >Subject: 2 meg floppy > >Author: MIME:"Rat Boy" at INTERNET >Date: 11/11/99 11:29 AM > > > > > >Whatever happened to the 2Meg 3 1/2 inch floppy drive? Does IBM still offer that on their laptops? > > > >Jimmy > > > >______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------ >Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > >Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 >Harston http://www.generics.co.uk >Cambridge CB2 5NH > >United Kingdom > >Registered in England No 2081960 > >------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > Harston http://www.generics.co.uk > Cambridge CB2 5NH > United Kingdom > Registered in England No 2081960 > ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Fri Nov 12 09:36:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA30119 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:36:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09885; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:34:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:34:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09797; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:34:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09787; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:34:27 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.34 -> imo-d02.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:34:27 -0500 Received: from Lilag@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id o.0.c95633a2 (3982) for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:34:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.c95633a2.255d7f71@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:34:25 EST Subject: Fwd: misdirected mail To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_0.c95633a2.255d7f71_boundary" X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 List-Unsubscribe: --part1_0.c95633a2.255d7f71_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/12/1999 9:23:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu writes: << >> --part1_0.c95633a2.255d7f71_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc01.mx.aol.com (rly-yc01.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.33]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v62.15) with ESMTP; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:23:09 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (astro.cs.utk.edu [128.169.93.168]) by rly-yc01.mx.aol.com (v63.6) with ESMTP; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:22:54 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29799 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:14:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911121414.JAA29799@astro.cs.utk.edu> To: Lilag@aol.com From: owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:30:11 EST." <0.958d1e85.255cf1d3@aol.com> Subject: misdirected mail Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:14:17 -0500 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 The following message was incorrectly sent to . This address is only for administrative requests. Messages intended for the thinkpad list must be sent to . If you still want to send this message to the thinkpad list, you must re-send it to . -----your message appears below----- X-delivered-as: root Return-Path: Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12137; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:30:18 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.70 -> imo26.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:30:18 -0500 Received: from Lilag@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id oVBKa05318 (6398) for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:30:11 - 0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.958d1e85.255cf1d3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:30:11 EST Subject: about butterfly .. To: thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 I was told I could d\l the manual on the IBM.com, but am unable to find it !!! Also would like info on the thinkpad-butterfly ... Thanks, Lila --part1_0.c95633a2.255d7f71_boundary-- From cph Fri Nov 12 09:46:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA30170 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:46:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10717; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:44:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:44:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10644; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:44:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10597; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.200.246 -> smtp10.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:44:01 -0500 Received: from wald5 (user-2ive66e.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.24.206]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA10789 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:43:59 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:44:54 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <199911121435.QAA16560@lohi.clinet.fi> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Dominique, You were right to protest how you did. I should have known better! Here's hoping there's a day in the not too distant future when we all have free unlimited connections! End of discussion. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Dominique Pivard [mailto:domi@kenavo.fi] Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 9:35 AM To: William Armstrong Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 at 06:22 AM you, "William Armstrong" , said: >Sorry about that. I promise not to do it again! Thanks! I didn't mean to be rude, but some of us do pay for their connection by the minute and/or have slow connections. Cheers, Dominique From cph Fri Nov 12 10:03:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA30309 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:03:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12290; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:02:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:01:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12171; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:01:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12161; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:01:56 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8 -> imo18.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:01:56 -0500 Received: from JEShoemaker@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id w.0.ee92bcfa (4593); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:00:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.ee92bcfa.255d859f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:00:47 EST Subject: PMTShoot (was: Suspend on 770Z) To: warmstrong@waldinc.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 12/11/99 9:44:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, warmstrong@waldinc.com writes: Bill, Please tell me a little more about PMTShoot.exe. Where does it install itself to? Does it permanently remain on the hard drive as a reaccessible utility? My 770 sometimes indicates a MSGSVR32.EXE problem and I am hoping that PMTShoot.exe will help diagnostically. TIA ... John From cph Fri Nov 12 10:26:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA30514 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:26:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14085; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:22:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13964; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13950; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:22:36 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7 -> imo17.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:22:37 -0500 Received: from JEShoemaker@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id o.0.1286aaa6 (4593) for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:22:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.1286aaa6.255d8aa5@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:22:13 EST Subject: msgsrv32.exe error? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 List-Unsubscribe: Occassionally when recovering from SUSPEND, my TP770 w/Win95osr2 shows this error message: "MSGSRV32.EXE: An error has occurred in your program. To keep working anyway, click ignore and save your work in a new file. To quit this program, click Close. You will lose information you entered since your last save." Also, couple time it locked up completely and I had to use the RESET button to reboot. Any advice would be appreciated. TIA ... John From cph Fri Nov 12 11:38:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA31181 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:38:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20625; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:37:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:36:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20499; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:36:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from rov.berkeley.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20473; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:36:22 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from rov.berkeley.edu (128.32.232.45 -> rov.Berkeley.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:36:23 -0500 Received: from gamee5.club-i.com by rov.berkeley.edu (NX5.67g/NX3.0M) id AA14045; Fri, 12 Nov 99 08:48:52 -0800 Message-Id: <382C41BE.F7AE2204@ricochet.net> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:35:10 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph Fri Nov 12 11:42:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA31248 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:42:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21047; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:41:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20969; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:41:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20953; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:41:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (147.225.51.39 -> mosquito.ny.ans.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:41:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (bkomar@localhost) by mosquito.ny.ans.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA03997; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:40:52 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mosquito.ny.ans.net: bkomar owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:40:52 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Komar X-Sender: bkomar@mosquito.ny.ans.net To: mike760@ricochet.net cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <382C41BE.F7AE2204@ricochet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 mike760@ricochet.net wrote: > unsubscribe > > To unsubscribe, I beleive that you need to: mailto:thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu Subject=unsubscribe Have a nice day, Bruce Komar From cph Fri Nov 12 12:00:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA31387 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:00:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22662; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:58:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:58:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22574; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:58:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pike.sover.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22545; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:58:10 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from pike.sover.net (209.198.87.34 -> pike.sover.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:58:10 -0500 Received: from sover.net (arc1a214.bf.sover.net [209.198.80.214]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA15229 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:58:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911121658.LAA15229@pike.sover.net> Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on pike.sover.net) sover.net from arc1a214.bf.sover.net [209.198.80.214] 209.198.80.214 Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:58:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:10:57 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199911121110.NAA08228@lohi.clinet.fi> Subject: RE: Suspend on 770Z X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.69 b68 List-Unsubscribe: >It was not very considerate of you to send a 160K binary file to everyone >on the list. Especially for those of us who don't use the latest M$ junkware or a 770Z. _____________ Ed Letourneau From cph Fri Nov 12 15:22:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA00807 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:22:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09330; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:20:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:20:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09180; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:20:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09169; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:20:17 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7 -> imo17.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:20:17 -0500 Received: from TAUBELS@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id o.0.ac6a5980 (3866) for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:20:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.ac6a5980.255dd07a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:20:10 EST Subject: 760 CD MDL 9546U1C To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 218 List-Unsubscribe: Being new to this group, and a 1st time lap top user I have a question that hopefully someone can give me a definitive answer, (I haven't had any luck through IBM's site or vendors). I have the 760 CD listed above w/1.2GB, 16 ram and P120, I know I can go to 40 on the ram, and increase the hard drive, but can I go above 40 on the ram and is there anyway to increase the speed to the 200-300 range? Thanks for any help you can give. From cph Fri Nov 12 15:48:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA01033 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:48:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11488; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:46:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:46:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11386; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:46:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11345; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:45:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:45:21 -0500 Received: from mmax33.vramp.net (mmax33.vramp.net [198.138.8.96]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA14386; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:45:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911122045.PAA14386@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:42:12 -0500 Subject: Re: 760 CD MDL 9546U1C Reply-to: captjhem@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <0.ac6a5980.255dd07a@aol.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) List-Unsubscribe: On 12 Nov 99, at 15:20, TAUBELS@aol.com wrote: > Being new to this group, and a 1st time lap top user I have a question > that hopefully someone can give me a definitive answer, (I haven't had any > luck through IBM's site or vendors). Go to: http://www.ibm.com/support/ and enter the model number of your Thinkpad. You'll be taken to a page with all of the info available for that model. > I have the 760 CD listed above w/1.2GB, 16 ram and P120, I know I can go to > 40 on the ram, and increase the hard drive, but can I go above 40 on the ram > and is there anyway to increase the speed to the 200-300 range? Thanks for > any help you can give. Maximum RAM is 64MB, Bill Morrow is the best man to speak to about HD upgrades, and there is no reasonable and reliable way to upgrade the processor regardless of what you might read on some web sites. Regards, James From cph Fri Nov 12 16:06:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA01224 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:06:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13186; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:04:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:04:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13058; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:04:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from haupia.lava.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13032; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:03:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from haupia.lava.net (199.222.42.44 -> haupia.lava.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:03:57 -0500 Received: from lava.net(anunu004.lava.net[207.26.192.35]) (1579 bytes) by haupia.lava.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:03:49 -1000 (HST) (Smail-3.2.0.109 1999-Oct-27 #1 built 1999-Oct-28) Message-ID: <382C8127.B1D6140B@lava.net> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:05:43 -1000 From: Keith Wong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: msgsrv32.exe error? References: <0.1286aaa6.255d8aa5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: --You know I just moved my machine to my new apartment, and it's been doing that constantly the first time I boot up every time. I however have WinFax on my system, and I haven't looked at patches for it yet. I hope to de-install Winfax and see if it goes away. But what I might end up doing is simply rebuilding my machine with my Win95 C version. I think that msgsrv32 has to do with communications either in fax or email, but I don't know what sets it off sometimes, and not other times. I'll check the microsoft advisories and let you know. --Keith Wong JEShoemaker@aol.com wrote: > Occassionally when recovering from SUSPEND, my TP770 > w/Win95osr2 shows this error message: > > "MSGSRV32.EXE: An error has occurred in your program. > To keep working anyway, click ignore and save your work > in a new file. To quit this program, click Close. You will lose > information you entered since your last save." > > Also, couple time it locked up completely and I had to > use the RESET button to reboot. > > Any advice would be appreciated. > > TIA ... John From cph Fri Nov 12 16:12:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA01250 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:12:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13724; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:09:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13624; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:09:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13605; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:09:28 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.71 -> imo27.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:09:28 -0500 Received: from JEShoemaker@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id l.0.37e0c4be (3864); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:08:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.37e0c4be.255ddbea@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:08:58 EST Subject: Re: msgsrv32.exe error? To: pirate@lava.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 List-Unsubscribe: Keith, You'll probably find this MS Message very helpful: http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q188/8/03.ASP I don't have WinFax on my machine though. Regards ... John ___________________________ In a message dated 12/11/99 4:04:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, pirate@lava.net writes: > --You know I just moved my machine to my new apartment, and it's been > doing that constantly the first time I boot up every time. I however > have WinFax on my system, and I haven't looked at patches for it yet. I > hope to de-install Winfax and see if it goes away. But what I might end > up doing is simply rebuilding my machine with my Win95 C version. I > think that msgsrv32 has to do with communications either in fax or > email, but I don't know what sets it off sometimes, and not other > times. I'll check the microsoft advisories and let you know. > > --Keith Wong > > JEShoemaker@aol.com wrote: > > > Occassionally when recovering from SUSPEND, my TP770 > > w/Win95osr2 shows this error message: > > > > "MSGSRV32.EXE: An error has occurred in your program. > > To keep working anyway, click ignore and save your work > > in a new file. To quit this program, click Close. You will lose > > information you entered since your last save." > > > > Also, couple time it locked up completely and I had to > > use the RESET button to reboot. > > > > Any advice would be appreciated. > > > > TIA ... John > From cph Fri Nov 12 16:43:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA01672 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:43:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16024; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:41:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:40:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15917; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15898; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:40:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (209.185.241.60 -> f60.law3.hotmail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:40:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 32761 invoked by uid 0); 12 Nov 1999 21:40:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19991112214047.32760.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 203.96.16.21 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:40:44 PST X-Originating-IP: [203.96.16.21] From: "Jake Holmen" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Infrared Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 01:40:44 AZT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Since we're all on the topic, I have two laptops. One is a 760CD running Win95 and Linux RH6.0 (interested in my endeavour? check out www.geocities.com/chickensfree/ and click on the "more of the same" button. And the other is a 600E (beautiful machine) running Win NT 4.0 I can't get IR running on the NT machine. All I get when I run the latest install files from ibm (yesterday) is an exception error. Here's the details... The application, exe\setup.dbg generated an applicatoin error. he error occurred on 11/12/1999 @9:29:47:725 The exception generated was c0000005 at address fefcfaf() and a whole bunch of BCD code after that. Anyone ever come accross this? I want to use IR for transferring data between the two. thanks in advance, J. PS - could you email me offline (ie direct) cause I get the digest. Happy to post results if it works. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cph Fri Nov 12 16:48:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA01757 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:48:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16574; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:45:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:45:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16497; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:45:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp5.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16484; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:45:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp5.mindspring.com (207.69.200.82 -> smtp5.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:45:11 -0500 Received: from user-38lc5nq.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lc5nq.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.22.250]) by smtp5.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA08756 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:45:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911122145.QAA08756@smtp5.mindspring.com> From: "Allan" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:45:40 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <0.ac6a5980.255dd07a@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 760 CD MDL 9546U1C List-Unsubscribe: I use 64Mb RAM, but it can be a hassel. Call Viking, or one of the others who state that 64Mb will work, and order from that firm with a guarantee. I am using a 3.0 gig drive, so it is good to go that far at least. No idea what the largest drive that it will operate, is. So far, 3.0 is fine for my uses, but that could change. On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:20:10 EST, TAUBELS@aol.com wrote: >Being new to this group, and a 1st time lap top user I have a question that >hopefully someone can give me a definitive answer, (I haven't had any luck >through IBM's site or vendors). I have the 760 CD listed above w/1.2GB, 16 >ram and P120, I know I can go to 40 on the ram, and increase the hard drive, >but can I go above 40 on the ram and is there anyway to increase the speed to >the 200-300 range? Thanks for any help you can give. From cph Fri Nov 12 18:53:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA02571 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:53:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25867; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:51:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:51:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25762; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:51:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from web213.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25749; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:51:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from web213.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.113 -> web213.mail.yahoo.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:51:08 -0500 Message-ID: <19991112235107.3685.rocketmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.136.144.33] by web213.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:51:07 PST Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:51:07 -0800 (PST) From: Pencetera Reply-To: pencetera@yahoo.com Subject: Re: 760 CD MDL 9546U1C To: TAUBELS@aol.com, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: As near as I can remember, the ram limit is 64Mb, the HD can go to 5.1Gb (you may want to check that one) and the CPU can be upgraded to a 120 only, if you can find it cheap enough and you don't mind doing it yourself it's an okay upgrade but it's not nearly what you are looking for and not a major speedup, maybe 15%. I installed the 133Mhz upgrade in my 760ELD, took me about 20 minutes. Cheers, Mike B. --- TAUBELS@aol.com wrote: > Being new to this group, and a 1st time lap top user > I have a question that > hopefully someone can give me a definitive answer, > (I haven't had any luck > through IBM's site or vendors). I have the 760 CD > listed above w/1.2GB, 16 > ram and P120, I know I can go to 40 on the ram, and > increase the hard drive, > but can I go above 40 on the ram and is there anyway > to increase the speed to > the 200-300 range? Thanks for any help you can give. > ===== http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From cph Fri Nov 12 20:58:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA03419 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 20:58:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01152; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 20:56:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 20:56:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01077; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 20:56:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01067; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 20:56:27 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5 -> imo15.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 20:56:27 -0500 Received: from Custm42435@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id o.0.99ec705d (4440) for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 20:56:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.99ec705d.255e1f44@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 20:56:20 EST Subject: Thinkpad 730T To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 List-Unsubscribe: i just got in my thinkpad 730T today, and as some of you know who have these, they have no internal cd or floppy drive.. it has win 95 on it, but i am wanting to put some more things on it, and was wondering how i needed to go about doing so.. i have a internal network at my house, and would like to try to hook it up to the network, so i can just use the cdrom drive or the floppy drive from my main computer if i can.. anyone who reads these messages have a pcmcia ethernet card for sale? also , any other way of doing this? From cph Fri Nov 12 21:36:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA03543 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:36:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02477; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:34:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:33:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02395; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:33:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02380; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (128.143.2.9 -> mail.Virginia.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:33:28 -0500 Received: from unix.mail.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa28046; 12 Nov 99 21:33 EST Received: from virginia.edu (ppp-32-6.itc.Virginia.EDU [128.143.3.156]) by unix.mail.Virginia.EDU (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA85932 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:33:24 -0500 Message-ID: <382CCDD9.3FEC2857@virginia.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:32:58 -0500 From: "John Lee P. Holmes" Organization: University of Virginia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 755: updating to Win 98 probs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have an old tp 755 cdv (nonpentium 100 mhz) which currently runs win311. Given potential y2k probs I've decided to try to upgrade to windows 98. I know it will run slowly even with the max 30 meg ram but I hope this is not an impossibility. I just think on balance it will be problematic to continue with 311 after jan1st. and everything is backupd so I can go back if things go awry. But I hope to get advice that will maximize the chances of success. My question then is: has anyone done this and can I simply use the windows 98 disk to overwrite 311 or is it better to reinstall? Thank you in advance for your advice! John Lee Holmes From cph Fri Nov 12 21:45:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA03595 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:45:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02929; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:43:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:43:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02855; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:43:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot009.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02842; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:43:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot009.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.109 -> pilot009.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:43:31 -0500 Received: from andres (pm453-20.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.174]) by pilot009.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA22012 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:43:29 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991112214330.009f0e30@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:43:30 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: TP 755: updating to Win 98 probs? In-Reply-To: <382CCDD9.3FEC2857@virginia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: If you get the upgrade disks (or cd?) for Windows 95 you can do that. You'll even have a way to back up to Win 3.1. I would not recomend going to Windows 98--stick with 95. There are a few features in 98 which are better, but 95 is more stable over all, and less of a pig. I maintain about 70 systems; *all* my win98 systems have more problems and strange quirks, hickups and crashes than my win95 machines have. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 09:32 PM 11/12/1999 -0500, John Lee P. Holmes wrote: >I have an old tp 755 cdv (nonpentium 100 mhz) which currently runs >win311. Given potential y2k probs I've decided to try to upgrade to >windows 98. I know it will run slowly even with the max 30 meg ram but >I hope this is not an impossibility. I just think on balance it will be >problematic to continue with 311 after jan1st. and everything is >backupd so I can go back if things go awry. But I hope to get advice >that will maximize the chances of success. > >My question then is: has anyone done this and can I simply use the >windows 98 disk to overwrite 311 or is it better to reinstall? Thank >you in advance for your advice! > >John Lee Holmes From cph Fri Nov 12 21:59:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA03653 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:59:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03433; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:57:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03357; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03344; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:57:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:57:45 -0500 Received: from mmax19.vramp.net (mmax19.vramp.net [198.138.8.82]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA11143; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:57:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911130257.VAA11143@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: "John Lee P. Holmes" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:53:31 -0500 Subject: Re: TP 755: updating to Win 98 probs? Reply-to: captjhem@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <382CCDD9.3FEC2857@virginia.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) List-Unsubscribe: On 12 Nov 99, at 21:32, John Lee P. Holmes wrote: > I have an old tp 755 cdv (nonpentium 100 mhz) which currently runs > win311. Given potential y2k probs I've decided to try to upgrade to > windows 98. I know it will run slowly even with the max 30 meg ram but I > hope this is not an impossibility. I just think on balance it will be > problematic to continue with 311 after jan1st. and everything is backupd > so I can go back if things go awry. But I hope to get advice that will > maximize the chances of success. > > My question then is: has anyone done this and can I simply use the > windows 98 disk to overwrite 311 or is it better to reinstall? Thank you > in advance for your advice! I'm happily running W98SE on several Pentium 755CDs (FBKs), but have found it to be extremely slow on my non-Pentium machines (9BEs). On those I'm running W95 OS2 with very good results. FWIW, I've got W2K (RC2) up on one of my 9BEs and it's running quite well (as well as on an FBK, where it SMOKES!), regardless of the fact that MS suggests a P/166 as the minimum system. In fact it runs better on the DX4/100 machine than W95! No separate W2K support for any of the TP features, but the W95 drivers seem to work fine. BTW, the max RAM on the 755CD/CDV is 40MB with the 32MB memory card. I've heard that this can be increased to 72MB by using the SO DIMM adapter and two 32MB DIMMs, but I've never been able to track down whether or not this is actually possible. Bill, Jaren, Mark B., Denis, you ever hear about this? Regards, James From cph Fri Nov 12 22:17:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA03819 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 22:17:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03960; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 22:15:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 22:15:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03880; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 22:15:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03867; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 22:15:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (206.31.56.7 -> main.ismi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 22:15:37 -0500 Received: from denhall (tc8-21.ismi.net [207.51.197.126]) by main.ismi.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA07410; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 22:15:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <004d01bf2d8d$f3115020$7ec533cf@denhall> From: "Denis Hall" To: , "John Lee P. Holmes" , Subject: Re: TP 755: updating to Win 98 probs? Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 22:17:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: In my experiences, I've been disappointed on most of the ThinkPads running Win98...but perhaps I've not configured in most optimized manner... but I certainly have been more pleased with Win95 on the 755's I've used. James, your *rumor* of 72mb possibility on 755 has me looking around for DIMM's : ) I've got a couple of the DIMM adapters here and a few CD and CX models... will test out hypothesis if I can dig up the parts... Have a Great Day, Denis Hall, Michigan 810.229.2881 -----Original Message----- From: James H. E. Maugham To: John Lee P. Holmes ; THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Friday, November 12, 1999 9:00 PM Subject: Re: TP 755: updating to Win 98 probs? >On 12 Nov 99, at 21:32, John Lee P. Holmes wrote: > >> I have an old tp 755 cdv (nonpentium 100 mhz) which currently runs >> win311. Given potential y2k probs I've decided to try to upgrade to >> windows 98. I know it will run slowly even with the max 30 meg ram but I >> hope this is not an impossibility. I just think on balance it will be >> problematic to continue with 311 after jan1st. and everything is backupd >> so I can go back if things go awry. But I hope to get advice that will >> maximize the chances of success. >> >> My question then is: has anyone done this and can I simply use the >> windows 98 disk to overwrite 311 or is it better to reinstall? Thank you >> in advance for your advice! > >I'm happily running W98SE on several Pentium 755CDs (FBKs), but have >found it to be extremely slow on my non-Pentium machines (9BEs). On those >I'm running W95 OS2 with very good results. FWIW, I've got W2K (RC2) up >on one of my 9BEs and it's running quite well (as well as on an FBK, where it >SMOKES!), regardless of the fact that MS suggests a P/166 as the minimum >system. In fact it runs better on the DX4/100 machine than W95! No separate >W2K support for any of the TP features, but the W95 drivers seem to work >fine. > >BTW, the max RAM on the 755CD/CDV is 40MB with the 32MB memory >card. I've heard that this can be increased to 72MB by using the SO DIMM >adapter and two 32MB DIMMs, but I've never been able to track down >whether or not this is actually possible. > >Bill, Jaren, Mark B., Denis, you ever hear about this? > >Regards, > >James > From cph Sat Nov 13 00:15:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA04209 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:15:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08054; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:12:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:11:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07975; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:11:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07962; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:11:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (198.206.134.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:11:57 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-268.gate.net [199.227.131.77]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA24388; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:11:51 -0500 Message-ID: <382CF328.CF35852D@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:12:08 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pencetera@yahoo.com CC: TAUBELS@aol.com, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760 CD MDL 9546U1C References: <19991112235107.3685.rocketmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Max memory on the 760CD is 64megs.. but don't do it..! it causes trouble between win9x and the video driver.. max HDD is 6.4gigs.. (thanks, jim, for the kind words) Pencetera wrote: > As near as I can remember, the ram limit is 64Mb, the > HD can go to 5.1Gb (you may want to check that one) > and the CPU can be upgraded to a 120 only, if you can > find it cheap enough and you don't mind doing it > yourself it's an okay upgrade but it's not nearly what > you are looking for and not a major speedup, maybe > 15%. I installed the 133Mhz upgrade in my 760ELD, took > me about 20 minutes. > > Cheers, > Mike B. > > --- TAUBELS@aol.com wrote: > > Being new to this group, and a 1st time lap top user > > I have a question that > > hopefully someone can give me a definitive answer, > > (I haven't had any luck > > through IBM's site or vendors). I have the 760 CD > > listed above w/1.2GB, 16 > > ram and P120, I know I can go to 40 on the ram, and > > increase the hard drive, > > but can I go above 40 on the ram and is there anyway > > to increase the speed to > > the 200-300 range? Thanks for any help you can give. > > > > ===== > http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Sat Nov 13 00:19:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA04248 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:19:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08356; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:17:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:17:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08279; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:17:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08266; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:17:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (198.206.134.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:17:28 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-268.gate.net [199.227.131.77]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA40128; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:17:23 -0500 Message-ID: <382CF475.3D2BEFCF@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:17:41 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: captjhem@waterw.com CC: "John Lee P. Holmes" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 755: updating to Win 98 probs? References: <199911130257.VAA11143@water.vramp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: never heard of such a thing as using two 32meg SO DIMMS in the DIMM adapter to achieve 72megs.. i suppose its worth a try.. :-) but i would not hold out much hope.. "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: > On 12 Nov 99, at 21:32, John Lee P. Holmes wrote: > > > I have an old tp 755 cdv (nonpentium 100 mhz) which currently runs > > win311. Given potential y2k probs I've decided to try to upgrade to > > windows 98. I know it will run slowly even with the max 30 meg ram but I > > hope this is not an impossibility. I just think on balance it will be > > problematic to continue with 311 after jan1st. and everything is backupd > > so I can go back if things go awry. But I hope to get advice that will > > maximize the chances of success. > > > > My question then is: has anyone done this and can I simply use the > > windows 98 disk to overwrite 311 or is it better to reinstall? Thank you > > in advance for your advice! > > I'm happily running W98SE on several Pentium 755CDs (FBKs), but have > found it to be extremely slow on my non-Pentium machines (9BEs). On those > I'm running W95 OS2 with very good results. FWIW, I've got W2K (RC2) up > on one of my 9BEs and it's running quite well (as well as on an FBK, where it > SMOKES!), regardless of the fact that MS suggests a P/166 as the minimum > system. In fact it runs better on the DX4/100 machine than W95! No separate > W2K support for any of the TP features, but the W95 drivers seem to work > fine. > > BTW, the max RAM on the 755CD/CDV is 40MB with the 32MB memory > card. I've heard that this can be increased to 72MB by using the SO DIMM > adapter and two 32MB DIMMs, but I've never been able to track down > whether or not this is actually possible. > > Bill, Jaren, Mark B., Denis, you ever hear about this? > > Regards, > > James -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Sat Nov 13 00:32:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA04304 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:32:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08934; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:30:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:30:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08860; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:30:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08847; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:30:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (198.206.134.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:30:28 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-268.gate.net [199.227.131.77]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA51070; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:30:20 -0500 Message-ID: <382CF77D.5469AA83@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:30:37 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Quantrill CC: Rat Boy , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , Allan Subject: Re: 2.88 meg floppy References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: why am i unsurprised.. ! :-) Adam Quantrill wrote: > Well the 2.88 drive in my 755C doesn't 'sense' the hole, or the driver doesn't object. My boot floppy for linux (that's another story) is a HD one formatted to 2.88 by me under DOS so I can have a few DOS utils or other files on it. > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Re: 2.88 meg floppy > Author: MIME:Bill Morrow at INTERNET > Date: 11/12/99 5:47 AM > > The 2.88meg floppies use "ED" diskettes.. > the square hole is offset from the more ordinary "HD" floppy diskettes.. so i doubt giving an argument to a format command in DOS will work.. > a hole punch might work though.. :-) > > **SNIP** -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Sat Nov 13 00:36:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA04324 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:36:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09152; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:34:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:34:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09079; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:34:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09066; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:34:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (198.206.134.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:34:41 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-268.gate.net [199.227.131.77]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA74422; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:34:34 -0500 Message-ID: <382CF87B.EB89DFB0@icanect.net> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:34:51 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vincent Poy CC: jeroen@netlinq.nl, ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: IBM announces 2048 x 1536 21" LCD References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: yes, fans.. ! a variety of video cards.. a Number 9 and a 3-d blaster banshee.. both excellent video cards in their time.. or so i was told.. :-) Vincent Poy wrote: > On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Bill Morrow wrote: > > > most likely all of the abo... uhh, below.. :-) > > > > and as a happy (mostly) owner of two 16ingh IBM TFT displays.. they are > > SUPER.. > > (except for the crappy stand and the fans) > > Hmmm, they have fans? What video cards are you using with it? > > Cheers, > Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] > GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] > Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Sat Nov 13 01:46:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA04551 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 01:46:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11298; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 01:44:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 01:43:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11216; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 01:43:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.fn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11203; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 01:43:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from wichita.fn.net (198.247.1.1 -> wichita.fn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 01:43:48 -0500 Received: from uxledkvk (fsict-tc3-31.fn.net [198.247.5.131]) by wichita.fn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA13011 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:43:46 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "Jon W" To: Subject: Another debious move by Microsoft ? Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:42:54 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: If you go to the cookies folder in windows ( use find: cookies) there is one file call : Index.dat that seems to get larger and larger by day ! You couldnt delete it from windows and you have to do it via MS DOS. I was wondering if anyone know what is the purpose of this file. Is this another MICROSCARE tatics in order to "log" internet explorer user ?? From cph Sat Nov 13 02:07:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA04575 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:07:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12022; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:05:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:05:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11930; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:05:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11908; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:05:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:05:08 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA28463 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:05:02 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <002101bf2da5$6a7576c0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: References: Subject: Re: Another debious move by Microsoft ? Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:05:04 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > If you go to the cookies folder in windows ( use find: cookies) there is one > file call : Index.dat that seems to get larger and larger by day ! [snip] > I was wondering if anyone know what is the purpose of this file. Just a stab in the dark here, but perhaps it is a file that is used to index cookies? - David R. From cph Sat Nov 13 02:20:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA04609 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:20:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12493; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:19:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:18:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12419; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12406; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:18:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.200.246 -> smtp10.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:18:49 -0500 Received: from user-37ka31d.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37ka31d.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.12.45]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA31487; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:18:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911130718.CAA31487@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> From: "Allan" To: "Bill Morrow" , "pencetera@yahoo.com" Cc: "TAUBELS@aol.com" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:19:16 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <382CF328.CF35852D@icanect.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 760 CD MDL 9546U1C List-Unsubscribe: Bill, What kind of trouble? I see to be Ok regarding video with 64Megs. Allan Ballard On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:12:08 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >Max memory on the 760CD is 64megs.. >but don't do it..! >it causes trouble between win9x and the video driver.. > >max HDD is 6.4gigs.. >(thanks, jim, for the kind words) From cph Sat Nov 13 02:21:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA04613 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:21:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12631; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:19:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:19:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12558; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from web204.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12545; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:19:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from web204.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.104 -> web204.mail.yahoo.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:19:32 -0500 Message-ID: <19991113071931.3237.rocketmail@web204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.170.185] by web204.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 23:19:31 PST Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 23:19:31 -0800 (PST) From: Pencetera Reply-To: pencetera@yahoo.com Subject: Re: TP 755: updating to Win 98 probs? To: Denis Hall , captjhem@waterw.com, "John Lee P. Holmes" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: I don't know, my experience with win98 and my thinkpad 760ELD have been _MOSTLY_ positive. For some reason, my pcmcia drivers are freakin' out. I have two sets of the TI drivers and it's been adding in pcmcia cards twice. Aside from that fiasco it's been almost perfect... if I could fix that I'd be completely happy with win98 and my thinkpad.... --- Denis Hall wrote: > In my experiences, I've been disappointed on most of > the ThinkPads > running Win98...but perhaps I've not configured in > most optimized manner... > but I certainly have been more pleased with Win95 on > the 755's I've used. > > James, your *rumor* of 72mb possibility on 755 has > me looking around > for DIMM's : ) > I've got a couple of the DIMM adapters here and a > few CD and CX models... > will test out hypothesis if I can dig up the > parts... > > Have a Great Day, > Denis Hall, Michigan > 810.229.2881 > > -----Original Message----- > From: James H. E. Maugham > To: John Lee P. Holmes ; > THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > > Date: Friday, November 12, 1999 9:00 PM > Subject: Re: TP 755: updating to Win 98 probs? > > > >On 12 Nov 99, at 21:32, John Lee P. Holmes wrote: > > > >> I have an old tp 755 cdv (nonpentium 100 mhz) > which currently runs > >> win311. Given potential y2k probs I've decided > to try to upgrade to > >> windows 98. I know it will run slowly even with > the max 30 meg ram but I > >> hope this is not an impossibility. I just think > on balance it will be > >> problematic to continue with 311 after jan1st. > and everything is backupd > >> so I can go back if things go awry. But I hope > to get advice that will > >> maximize the chances of success. > >> > >> My question then is: has anyone done this and can > I simply use the > >> windows 98 disk to overwrite 311 or is it better > to reinstall? Thank you > >> in advance for your advice! > > > >I'm happily running W98SE on several Pentium 755CDs > (FBKs), but have > >found it to be extremely slow on my non-Pentium > machines (9BEs). On those > >I'm running W95 OS2 with very good results. FWIW, > I've got W2K (RC2) up > >on one of my 9BEs and it's running quite well (as > well as on an FBK, where > it > >SMOKES!), regardless of the fact that MS suggests a > P/166 as the minimum > >system. In fact it runs better on the DX4/100 > machine than W95! No separate > >W2K support for any of the TP features, but the W95 > drivers seem to work > >fine. > > > >BTW, the max RAM on the 755CD/CDV is 40MB with the > 32MB memory > >card. I've heard that this can be increased to 72MB > by using the SO DIMM > >adapter and two 32MB DIMMs, but I've never been > able to track down > >whether or not this is actually possible. > > > >Bill, Jaren, Mark B., Denis, you ever hear about > this? > > > >Regards, > > > >James > > > > ===== http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From cph Sat Nov 13 03:51:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA04768 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 03:51:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16211; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 03:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 03:49:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16132; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 03:49:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16119; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 03:49:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (128.143.2.9 -> mail.Virginia.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 03:49:23 -0500 Received: from unix.mail.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa15726; 13 Nov 99 3:49 EST Received: from virginia.edu (ppp-32-9.itc.Virginia.EDU [128.143.3.159]) by unix.mail.Virginia.EDU (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA85808 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 03:49:21 -0500 Message-ID: <382D2601.9922DD22@virginia.edu> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 03:49:05 -0500 From: "John Lee P. Holmes" Organization: University of Virginia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad group message Subject: TP755 with Win98:one more question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Thanks for your responses. The problem is that at the moment I only have Windows 3.11 and Windows 98 and do not think it's worth purchasing windows 95. I've often heard that 95 is superior in stability and I must say I absolutely HATE Windows 98's performance on my Toshiba laptop (sorry if Toshiba is anathema to this group). And yet is it really worth it to go out and buy Windows 95? But if I can find it somehow (wink wink) I guess I need the second version, right? And if I cannot ferret out a copy of Win95, or I suppose in either case, I still have a question about procedure: To install 95/98 on the Thinkpad 755 can I just overwrite 3.11 or should I format the hard-drive? In other words, I'm concerned about integrating the software for Thinkpad with the 95/98 stuff and the order in which installation proceeds. Now I have used disk factory to create all the disks, also have a tape backup of the hard drive as well as having burned off a CD-R. My guess is I can just load in Windows 95/98 and it will replace/save old o/s automatically. But I remember a few years ago when I regularly read this group people complained about failed 95 installation/upgrades! So alternately I coud 1. fdisk the hard drive 2. install windows 95 or 98 directly skipping dos 3. reinstall from diskette the thinkpad stuff 4. get backup files/docs either from tape backup or the cdrom Anything look awry in these steps? Thanks again! John Lee Holmes From cph Sat Nov 13 05:30:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA04963 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 05:30:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA27297; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 05:28:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 05:28:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA27222; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 05:28:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA27209; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 05:28:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.200.246 -> smtp10.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 05:28:07 -0500 Received: from user-38ld32u.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38ld32u.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.140.94]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA14752 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 05:28:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911131028.FAA14752@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> From: "Allan" To: "Thinkpad group message" Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 05:28:36 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <382D2601.9922DD22@virginia.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP755 with Win98:one more question List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 03:49:05 -0500, John Lee P. Holmes wrote: >So alternately I coud >1. fdisk the hard drive >2. install windows 95 or 98 directly skipping dos >3. reinstall from diskette the thinkpad stuff >4. get backup files/docs either from tape backup or the cdrom > >Anything look awry in these steps? No, except I am not sure about #1. You *can* use a stepup version of W95 that will eliminate any need for #1, and also save a few bucks. A purist would probably fdisk and reformat the drive, though. From cph Sat Nov 13 09:18:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA05481 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 09:18:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03145; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 09:17:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 09:16:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03066; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 09:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot017.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03053; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 09:16:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot017.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.117 -> pilot017.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 09:16:24 -0500 Received: from andres (pm453-20.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.174]) by pilot017.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA35410 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 09:16:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991113091618.009f5280@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 09:16:18 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: TP755 with Win98:one more question In-Reply-To: <382D2601.9922DD22@virginia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: My suggestion would be to use an upgrade disk, and let Windows 9x ooze into your 3.1 system. I did that on about 45 machines, and with about four glaring exceptions it worked well. So 90% or so of the time it goes well. After you have things running you can go into the add/remove programs and delete Win3.1, saving about 6M of space. Just remember to turn networking off before making the upgrade--that was the trick I learned in making thigs go smoothly. I still think you'd be better off with Win95. I'm not entirely sure that there is a Win98 upgrade package like the Win95 one I've used, but it would make sense that it exists. If you make a backup all your data first, I'd try the integration first. If that bombs you can do the reformat method. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 03:49 AM 11/13/1999 -0500, John Lee P. Holmes wrote: >Thanks for your responses. > > The problem is that at the moment I only have Windows 3.11 and >Windows 98 and do not think it's worth purchasing windows 95. I've >often heard that 95 is superior in stability and I must say I absolutely >HATE Windows 98's performance on my Toshiba laptop (sorry if Toshiba is >anathema to this group). And yet is it really worth it to go out and >buy Windows 95? But if I can find it somehow (wink wink) I guess I need >the second version, right? > >And if I cannot ferret out a copy of Win95, or I suppose in either case, >I still have a question about procedure: >To install 95/98 on the Thinkpad 755 can I just overwrite 3.11 or should >I format the hard-drive? In other words, I'm concerned about >integrating the software for Thinkpad with the 95/98 stuff and the order >in which installation proceeds. Now I have used disk factory to create >all the disks, also have a tape backup of the hard drive as well as >having burned off a CD-R. > >My guess is I can just load in Windows 95/98 and it will replace/save >old o/s automatically. But I remember a few years ago when I regularly >read this group people complained about failed 95 installation/upgrades! > >So alternately I coud >1. fdisk the hard drive >2. install windows 95 or 98 directly skipping dos >3. reinstall from diskette the thinkpad stuff >4. get backup files/docs either from tape backup or the cdrom > >Anything look awry in these steps? > >Thanks again! > > >John Lee Holmes > > > From cph Sat Nov 13 11:02:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA05674 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:02:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06421; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:00:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 10:59:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06309; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 10:59:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from extdus1.bbdo-interactive.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06296; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 10:59:50 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from extdus1.bbdo-interactive.de (193.96.156.102 -> extdus1.bbdo-interactive.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 10:59:51 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Cc: Subject: Thinkpad 760 EL w/ CD or FDD, how to install CDROM-based? X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.1a (Intl) 17 August 1999 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 16:55:55 +0100 X-MIMETrack: S/MIME Sign by Notes Client on Andreas Walter/BBDO_Interactive/DE(Release 5.0.1a (Intl)|17 August 1999) at 13.11.1999 17:06:02, Serialize by Notes Client on Andreas Walter/BBDO_Interactive/DE(Release 5.0.1a (Intl)|17 August 1999) at 13.11.1999 17:06:02, Serialize complete at 13.11.1999 17:06:03, S/MIME Sign failed at 13.11.1999 17:06:03: The cryptographic key was not found, MIME-CD by Trend Mailscan on extdus1/BI_EXT/DE(Release 5.0.1b (Intl)|30 September 1999) at 13.11.99 16:53:41, MIME-CD complete at 13.11.99 16:53:41, Serialize by Router on extdus1/BI_EXT/DE(Release 5.0.1b (Intl)|30 September 1999) at 13.11.99 16:53:43 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I've got an older 760 EL with Floppy OR CDROM (inside). After being happy with OS/2 for years, I now need to install a second system. I would like to do a CDROM based LINUX installation with a bootable CD. But my 760 does not seem to be able to set the CDROM as boot device. And being unable to have a CDROM _AND_ a FDD at a time ... what can I do? Thanks for any help, Andreas. From cph Sat Nov 13 11:08:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA05704 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:08:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06701; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:06:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:06:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06623; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:06:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from toad.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06610; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from toad.com (140.174.2.1 -> toad.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:06:20 -0500 Received: from kgarson (243.new-york-20-25rs.ny.dial-access.att.net [12.79.50.243]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11302; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 08:06:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991113105620.00c8e600@mail.ny.viant.com> X-Sender: kenzo@free-music.com X-Mailer: Kenzo's Useful Mail Client v3 Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:05:37 -0500 To: Jon W , Thinkpad list From: Ken Subject: Windows cookies storage (OT) (was: Another debious move by Microsoft ?) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:42 AM 11/13/99 -0600, Jon W wrote: >If you go to the cookies folder in windows ( use find: cookies) there is one >file call : Index.dat that seems to get larger and larger by day ! >You couldnt delete it from windows and you have to do it via MS DOS. >I was wondering if anyone know what is the purpose of this file. Is this >another MICROSCARE tatics in order to "log" internet explorer user ?? As far as I've been able to determine, Windows keeps track of "special" folders (like Cookies and browsing History) in single indexed files, called index.dat. Then, when we see files inside these folders (representing the actual cookies, or the actual URL's visited), we're really seeing a representation of the index.dat file; i.e. the little files don't exist, just the index.dat file. I believe that when you reboot in DOS mode, you only see the index.dat file. (And, in the History folder, you don't even see the index.dat file when you're looking via Windows.) And, if you view the index.dat file, it contains the data you see inside the virtual files within that folder. It's an example of a clever (and useful to the user) way of integrating the browser with the OS - they store things within big files, just like Netscape would, but then they enable the OS's explorer interface to be smart and let the user manipulate the contents of these files as though they were a bunch of smaller files. I might be right. Apologies for replying to this off-topic inquiry. - Ken From cph Sat Nov 13 12:46:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA06036 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:46:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10188; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:44:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:43:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10091; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:43:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from cb4.cableone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10077; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:43:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from cb4.cableone.net (24.116.0.204 -> cb4.cableone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:43:45 -0500 Received: from cb4.cableone.net - 24.116.0.204 by cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 10:40:42 -0700 Received: from thinkpad (ppp-106.TEX4.cableone.net [24.116.4.106]) by cb4.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v1.5); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 10:40:40 -0800 Message-ID: <000701bf2dfe$a3540980$6a047418@thinkpad> Reply-To: "CHARLES MCDANIEL" From: "CHARLES MCDANIEL" To: Subject: Fw: TP755 with Win98:one more question Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:43:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-SMTP-HELO: thinkpad X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: cmcdaniel@cableone.net X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: ppp-106.TEX4.cableone.net [24.116.4.106] List-Unsubscribe: ----- Original Message ----- From: CHARLES MCDANIEL To: STeve Andre' Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 10:51 AM Subject: Re: TP755 with Win98:one more question > i can't say as i agree with this on the upgrade version of win95 if i > remember correctly win95 upgradeis OSR ver 1 and that this version isn't > very good.. i know from experience that this version have many bug and short > comings if it was myself i would use Win95 OSR2 and high this my opinion and > you may use it for what it's worth but i have used all versions of Windows > from win 3.0 to win98 second edtion > regards Charles McDaniel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: STeve Andre' > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 8:16 AM > Subject: Re: TP755 with Win98:one more question > > > > My suggestion would be to use an upgrade disk, and let Windows 9x > > ooze into your 3.1 system. I did that on about 45 machines, and > > with about four glaring exceptions it worked well. So 90% or so > > of the time it goes well. After you have things running you can > > go into the add/remove programs and delete Win3.1, saving about > > 6M of space. Just remember to turn networking off before making > > the upgrade--that was the trick I learned in making thigs go > > smoothly. > > > > I still think you'd be better off with Win95. I'm not entirely > > sure that there is a Win98 upgrade package like the Win95 one > > I've used, but it would make sense that it exists. > > > > If you make a backup all your data first, I'd try the integration > > first. If that bombs you can do the reformat method. > > > > --STeve Andre' > > andres@msu.edu > > > > At 03:49 AM 11/13/1999 -0500, John Lee P. Holmes wrote: > > >Thanks for your responses. > > > > > > The problem is that at the moment I only have Windows 3.11 and > > >Windows 98 and do not think it's worth purchasing windows 95. I've > > >often heard that 95 is superior in stability and I must say I absolutely > > >HATE Windows 98's performance on my Toshiba laptop (sorry if Toshiba is > > >anathema to this group). And yet is it really worth it to go out and > > >buy Windows 95? But if I can find it somehow (wink wink) I guess I need > > >the second version, right? > > > > > >And if I cannot ferret out a copy of Win95, or I suppose in either case, > > >I still have a question about procedure: > > >To install 95/98 on the Thinkpad 755 can I just overwrite 3.11 or should > > >I format the hard-drive? In other words, I'm concerned about > > >integrating the software for Thinkpad with the 95/98 stuff and the order > > >in which installation proceeds. Now I have used disk factory to create > > >all the disks, also have a tape backup of the hard drive as well as > > >having burned off a CD-R. > > > > > >My guess is I can just load in Windows 95/98 and it will replace/save > > >old o/s automatically. But I remember a few years ago when I regularly > > >read this group people complained about failed 95 installation/upgrades! > > > > > >So alternately I coud > > >1. fdisk the hard drive > > >2. install windows 95 or 98 directly skipping dos > > >3. reinstall from diskette the thinkpad stuff > > >4. get backup files/docs either from tape backup or the cdrom > > > > > >Anything look awry in these steps? > > > > > >Thanks again! > > > > > > > > >John Lee Holmes > > > > > > > > > > > > From cph Sat Nov 13 12:53:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA06062 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:53:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10693; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:52:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:51:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10609; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:51:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10594; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:51:57 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.39 -> imo-d07.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:51:57 -0500 Received: from JEShoemaker@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id o.0.58bea4ac (4246) for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:51:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.58bea4ac.255eff38@aol.com> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:51:52 EST Subject: "Too many parameters" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 List-Unsubscribe: Each time I boot my 770X, this DOS message appears: "Too many parameters" Then Win98 proceeds to load and all seem to function OK. A couple weeks ago I converted C Drive (8GB) to FAT32. C is divided into 2 partitions. I also allow Partion Magic 4.0 to resize the partitions to efficiently use the Free Space. Most of the time I also have a 6GB 2nd HDD in the MultiBay. This drive is divided into 4 partions (2 - 2GB & 2 - 1GB). A mirror imaging program partioned it that way when it was use to backup the 3GB HD on an older 770. QUESTIONS: 1. Should I be concerned about the DOS message? 2. If so, any suggestions about identifying and correcting the problem. TIA ... John From cph Sat Nov 13 13:07:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA06122 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:07:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11218; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:05:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:05:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11143; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:05:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11130; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (206.31.56.7 -> main.ismi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:05:27 -0500 Received: from denhall (tc4-39.ismi.net [205.216.96.194]) by main.ismi.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA04572; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:05:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <004701bf2e0a$47cf93c0$c260d8cd@denhall> From: "Denis Hall" To: , Subject: Re: Thinkpad 760 EL w/ CD or FDD, how to install CDROM-based? Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:07:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello Andreas, you can actually have the FDD and CD-rom drive at same time... you just need the external floppy drive kit into which you snap your current 1.44mb floppy drive...the cabling then attaches to the rear port above your docking station connector. If you need this external floppy setup, I've got a couple left and would be pleased to provide you... Have a Great Day, Denis Hall, Michigan 810.229.2881 -----Original Message----- From: a.walter@bbdo-interactive.de To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Saturday, November 13, 1999 10:00 AM Subject: Thinkpad 760 EL w/ CD or FDD, how to install CDROM-based? > >Hi, > > >I've got an older 760 EL with Floppy OR CDROM (inside). >After being happy with OS/2 for years, I now need to install a second >system. >I would like to do a CDROM based LINUX installation with a bootable CD. >But my 760 does not seem to be able to set the CDROM as boot device. > >And being unable to have a CDROM _AND_ a FDD at a time ... what can I do? > >Thanks for any help, >Andreas. > > > > From cph Sat Nov 13 17:33:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA07005 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:33:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05917; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:30:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05808; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:30:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05787; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:30:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.42 -> mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:30:43 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.19.133]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991113223042.ENX23762@compaq> for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:30:42 +0000 Message-ID: <382E1096.38AC@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:29:58 -0800 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Upgrade your 75X/760! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a few IBM 760 ThinkPads available Group one is 760XL P166MMX These are in good shape and all have remaining warranty into year 2000 These take all 760 accs and most 75X accs These are bare shells, no hard drive, no battery, no AC adaptor, no CD-ROM. They all have 16MB memory, but I can supply add's memory on request. Screens are good. The "bezel" around the floppy drive is not included. Asking $300 each. I will have some complete units available, price much higher! Group 2 is IBM 760EL. Same condition and specs as above. Asking $275.00 each. Only have a few Thanks! Bill M: If you have some parts, we can make a deal! From cph Sat Nov 13 22:03:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA07847 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:03:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15092; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:01:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:00:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14982; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:00:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14968; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (132.187.1.7 -> wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:00:20 -0500 Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.2.12]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8/uniwue-MM-1.0) with ESMTP id EAA19371 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 04:00:17 +0100 (MET) Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 04:00:17 +0100 (MET) Resent-Message-Id: <199911140300.EAA19371@wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de> Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 14 Nov 99 04:00:17 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.44); 14 Nov 99 04:00:04 +0200 Received: from mail.stelarcom.de (132.187.248.93) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 14 Nov 99 03:59:55 +0200 Received: from babylon5 (babylon5.stelarcom.de [192.168.0.2] ) by mail.stelarcom.de (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 01:57:52 -0100 Message-Id: <199911140157.5247336.7@mail.stelarcom.de> From: "Alexander Wagner" Resent-From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" X-Original-To: "Alexander Wagner" Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 01:57:30 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Alexander Wagner" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.1999 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <199911102355.0431838.7@mail.stelarcom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 760EL & Graphics - SOLUTION - List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:55:00 +0100 (MET), Alexander Wagner wrote: Hi! Some days I wrote the following to the list: > - Machine: ThinkPad 760EL Mod. Nr. 9747X4G > - OS: OS/2 (of course) > >Everything is up and running, now try to install graphcis suport (SVGA >800x600). Download apropiate driver from IBM (including the check for Note 2 >;) > -> Can not install driver for Trident xxxx. This is not Trident xxxx >I checked the reported Trident-Version the TP returns using "SVGA STATUS" >from >the commandline. It tells me "Trident 8800, 1MB RAM" which obviously must be >wrong. Any hints how I get this working? Well what's the solution to that all? Quite simple. While installing I relied on CID-capabilities of IBM ThinkPads and OS/2. That is I unpacked the video driver to a disk and copied it to the local HDD to (1) repack it in civilized format (ZIP) instead of DSK and (2) install it from there. Well the first is a good idea, the latter a bad one. For what reason ever the driver needs the approriate volume label on the disk to install properly. I reinstalled from drive A: and everything worked fine now. As far as I can see the video driver is the only one with that behaviour. All other drivers where installed the "cid way" that is from the local HDD. I also did that on my other 760XD and the 385ED of my brother. (Yes, they're all running OS/2 only. And yes, I do my whole work on OS/2. And no, I'm no big bank, I study physics. Just to answer some common questions here at once ;) -- CU/2 (( In the beginning was The Word Alexander Wagner )) and The Word was Content-type: text/plain Team OS/2 Franken (( _________________________________________________________________________ -=[ Team OS/2 Germany #294 ]=- Please use only A.Wagner@TeamOS2.de or A.Wagner@Bigfoot.de for replies, even if some other addresses may appear. Thanks! Get my PGP-key with Subject: Request for PGP-Keys From cph Sat Nov 13 23:27:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA07981 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:27:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17819; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:25:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:25:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17739; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:25:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17729; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:25:16 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.72 -> imo28.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:25:17 -0500 Received: from TAUBELS@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id o.0.64a2700 (4446) for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:25:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.64a2700.255f93a8@aol.com> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:25:12 EST Subject: 760 CD To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 39 List-Unsubscribe: Thanks for all the quick responses to my questions on the 760 CD, they were all very helpful, its amazing how much I don't know..... Thanks again Scott From cph Sun Nov 14 09:58:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA18862 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:58:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14165; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:56:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:54:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14049; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:54:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14035; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:54:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:54:01 -0500 Received: from mmax59.vramp.net (mmax59.vramp.net [198.138.8.122]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA22517; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:53:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911141453.JAA22517@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: "John Lee P. Holmes" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:46:04 -0500 Subject: Re: TP755 with Win98:one more question Reply-to: captjhem@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <382D2601.9922DD22@virginia.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) List-Unsubscribe: On 13 Nov 99, at 3:49, John Lee P. Holmes wrote: > The problem is that at the moment I only have Windows 3.11 and > Windows 98 and do not think it's worth purchasing windows 95. I've > often heard that 95 is superior in stability and I must say I absolutely > HATE Windows 98's performance on my Toshiba laptop (sorry if Toshiba is > anathema to this group). And yet is it really worth it to go out and buy > Windows 95? But if I can find it somehow (wink wink) I guess I need the > second version, right? As long as you have the Upgrade version of W98 on CD or disk, it will load over an existing installation of Win3.1, no problem. Installing the "full" W98 version on an existing Win3.1 system is also doable, see the "cheats" at Bill's website for loading W95, they work for W98 also. In either case, you want to load the mobile version, which saves on disk space. Regards, James From cph Sun Nov 14 16:58:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA19934 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:58:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26264; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:56:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:56:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26157; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:56:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26144; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:56:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.217.152 -> ah-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:56:15 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) id QAA00102 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:56:14 -0500 (EST) Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) with SMTP id QAA29988 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:56:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911142156.QAA29988@hpamraaa.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:56:07 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP600: Win98 upgrade Q's List-Unsubscribe: I've decided to go ahead and install Windows 98 on my TP600 to get access to the full capacity of my new 10gig HD. It seems to me the best thing is probably to install Windows 98 >from scratch onto my new HD, rather than upgrading the Windows 95 I'm already running. But the box says the Win98 upgrade will look for Win95 before it will install. Does that mean I should install my original Win95 from my recovery CD, then install Win98 as an upgrade, but on that clean Win95? I've read the documentation on IBM's site and plan to do all the BIOS and other upgrades first. Or am I taking the wrong approach altogether? Thanks! andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/LongBeachCA.html From cph Sun Nov 14 17:11:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA19980 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:11:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26810; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:10:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:10:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26735; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:10:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.on.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26721; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:10:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.on.home.com (24.2.9.66 -> ha1.rdc1.on.wave.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:10:43 -0500 Received: from pent500 ([24.112.37.101]) by mail.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id <19991114221027.LOVG1914.mail.rdc1.on.home.com@pent500>; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:10:27 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.1.19991114170850.029eacc0@mail.inforamp.net> X-Sender: valliant@mail.inforamp.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:11:45 -0500 To: "Andrew Webber" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" From: Hugh Valliant Subject: Re: TP600: Win98 upgrade Q's In-Reply-To: <199911142156.QAA29988@hpamraaa.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id RAA19981 Hello Andrew, The question is whether you have the Win95 CD. If you have , just start the Win98 install... it'll say can't find the Win95 folder... insert your Win95 CD... point to it and keep on truckin'.... t2ul8tr hugh At 04:56 PM 11/14/99 -0500, you wrote: >Received > by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) > id QAA26157; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:56:17 -0500 (EST) >Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost > by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) > id QAA26144; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:56:15 -0500 (EST) >Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.217.152 -> >ah-img-rel-1.compuserve.com > by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:56:15 -0500 >Received: (from mailgate@localhost > by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) id QAA00102 > for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:56:14 -0500 (EST) >Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com >Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35] > by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) with SMTP id > QAA29988 > for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:56:13 -0500 (EST) >Message-Id: <199911142156.QAA29988@hpamraaa.compuserve.com> >From: "Andrew Webber" >To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" >Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:56:07 -0500 >Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" >Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Subject: TP600: Win98 upgrade Q's >List-Unsubscribe: > >I've decided to go ahead and install Windows 98 on my TP600 to get >access to the full capacity of my new 10gig HD. > >It seems to me the best thing is probably to install Windows 98 >from scratch onto my new HD, rather than upgrading the Windows 95 >I'm already running. But the box says the Win98 upgrade will look >for Win95 before it will install. Does that mean I should install >my original Win95 from my recovery CD, then install Win98 as an >upgrade, but on that clean Win95? > >I've read the documentation on IBM's site and plan to do all the >BIOS and other upgrades first. > >Or am I taking the wrong approach altogether? > >Thanks! > >andrew >------ >current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/LongBeachCA.html > > >                              \\\\!////                             \\  _ _  //                              (  @ @  ) -------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------                   MI-COM Technology         Computer Solutions for Small Business Helping you access and travel the Information Highway                   Hugh A. Valliant        Bus.  (416) 726-5355   Fax. (416) 699-3847          E-mail         valliant@micomtech.com valliant@mi-comtech.com              http://www.mi-comtech.com/ ICQ UIN 4366968 From cph Sun Nov 14 19:59:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA20420 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:59:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02986; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:57:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:56:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02910; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:56:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02897; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:56:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.206.140 -> ds-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:56:43 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.1) id TAA01124 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:56:42 -0500 (EST) Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by spdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.1) with SMTP id TAA01064; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:56:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911150056.TAA01064@spdmraaa.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "Hugh Valliant" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:56:19 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP600: Win98 upgrade Q's List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:11:45 -0500, Hugh Valliant wrote: >Hello Andrew, > >The question is whether you have the Win95 CD. If you have, >just start the Win98 install... it'll say can't find the >Win95 folder... insert your Win95 CD... point to it and >keep on truckin'.... > >t2ul8tr > >hugh That's great, thanks Hugh! I do indeed have the CD, at least the one that came with my ThinkPad. I guess the next problem (that I just thought of) is how do I get the TP-specific programs off the original CD? Like the TP documentation and other stuff, most of which I don't use often but would want access to. Thanks again! andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/LongBeachCA.html From cph Mon Nov 15 00:32:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA21276 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:32:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13712; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:31:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:30:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13547; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:30:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13525; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:30:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:30:03 -0500 Received: from mmax50.vramp.net (mmax50.vramp.net [198.138.8.113]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA16250; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:29:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911150529.AAA16250@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: "Andrew Webber" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:20:34 -0500 Subject: Re: TP600: Win98 upgrade Q's Reply-to: captjhem@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <199911150056.TAA01064@spdmraaa.compuserve.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) List-Unsubscribe: On 14 Nov 99, at 19:56, Andrew Webber wrote: > On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:11:45 -0500, Hugh Valliant wrote: > > >The question is whether you have the Win95 CD. If you have, > >just start the Win98 install... it'll say can't find the > >Win95 folder... insert your Win95 CD... point to it and > >keep on truckin'.... > > I do indeed have the CD, at least the one that came with my > ThinkPad. I'm almost positive that this won't work Andrew. The CD that came with your TP600 has an image of the original program load, but it's in a compressed archive. The W98 program won't see the compressed W95 on the recovery CD. You're better off to have your floppy drive installed in the outboard drive holder and, when prompted, point W98 to the first disk of a W3.1, W3.1.1 or WFW installation set (I'm sure you have one around or can easily get one). Any of these will allow you to upgrade to W98 from the upgrade CD. > I guess the next problem (that I just thought of) is how do I get > the TP-specific programs off the original CD? Like the TP > documentation and other stuff, most of which I don't use often but > would want access to. Here you're in luck. Download (or copy from disk) and install Winzip. It reads all of the files and directories on the recovery CD with no problem. You can then un-compress and copy all of the documentation files you want. Be aware though that it can't install any of the programs that are on the disk. Regards, James From cph Mon Nov 15 00:32:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA21280 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:32:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13704; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:31:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:30:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13519; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:30:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13505; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:30:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:30:01 -0500 Received: from mmax50.vramp.net (mmax50.vramp.net [198.138.8.113]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA16246; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:29:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911150529.AAA16246@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: "Denis Hall" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:20:34 -0500 Subject: Re: TP 755: updating to Win 98 probs? Reply-to: captjhem@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <004d01bf2d8d$f3115020$7ec533cf@denhall> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) List-Unsubscribe: On 12 Nov 99, at 22:17, Denis Hall wrote: > In my experiences, I've been disappointed on most of the ThinkPads > running Win98...but perhaps I've not configured in most optimized > manner... but I certainly have been more pleased with Win95 on the 755's > I've used. When I got my first Beta of W98 and installed it on one of my Pentium 755s, I was less than happy with the result, both from the standpoint of an actual slowing of the machine's overall performance as well as the relatively enormous amount of disk space it seemed to require. IIRC we had quite a discussion at the time here on the list about the efficacy of running W98 on the older TPs, with the consensus of opinion at that time being to stick with W95, especially OS2, because of the lack of support for the older units. I wound up removing the Beta and re-installing W95. When I got the Beta 3 I installed it again to see if there had been any improvement and wound up leaving it on a 755 FBK as a test bed. I don't know if it was from any added support from IBM (I don't recall any new drivers from them for W98 on the 755) or simply a teething process of getting everything "just so", but I've since loaded W98 SE on all of my older pentiums with very good results. The non-pentium units are still running W95 however. > James, your *rumor* of 72mb possibility on 755 has me looking around > for DIMM's : ) > I've got a couple of the DIMM adapters here and a few CD and CX models... > will test out hypothesis if I can dig up the parts... Let me know how you make out! Even with all of the 75X series parts I have lying about, I don't have a single DIMM adapter. :-( Regards, James From cph Mon Nov 15 00:56:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA21352 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:56:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14726; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:55:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:55:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14651; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:55:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14638; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:55:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (198.206.134.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:55:05 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-163.gate.net [199.227.20.226]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA27404; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:54:59 -0500 Message-ID: <382FA045.5FD71799@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:55:18 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan CC: "pencetera@yahoo.com" , "TAUBELS@aol.com" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: 760 CD MDL 9546U1C References: <199911130718.CAA31487@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Allan... its a well known bug that i never experienced, first hand.. charles slater from JW Pepper Music had this bug bite him and others as well.. i think the machine crashes, but to give an exact answer i would need go searching.. if you run with 64megs in a 760CD and it works, then i have no explanation.. when a customer wants to load up with two 32meg parts for a 760CD from me, i advise against it.. Allan wrote: > Bill, > > What kind of trouble? I see to be Ok regarding > video with 64Megs. > > Allan Ballard > > On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:12:08 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: > > >Max memory on the 760CD is 64megs.. > >but don't do it..! > >it causes trouble between win9x and the video driver.. > > > >max HDD is 6.4gigs.. > >(thanks, jim, for the kind words) -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Mon Nov 15 01:01:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA21382 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:01:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15009; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:01:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:00:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14936; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:00:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14923; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:00:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (198.206.134.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:00:54 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-163.gate.net [199.227.20.226]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA05736; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:00:48 -0500 Message-ID: <382FA1A2.1A72D615@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:01:06 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Webber CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP600: Win98 upgrade Q's References: <199911142156.QAA29988@hpamraaa.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Andrew.. 1. you do NOT need to upgrade to win98 to get all of a 10gig to be seen.. 2. for fat32, win95B is all that is required.. 3. if no fat32 is wanted, then ANY windows should see that 10gig.. but in 5 partitions.. 4. I have upgraded my 600 several times from the IBM preload to win98 and it goes nicely once i overcame the silliness generated by MS.. my two cents is do the recovery then upgrade to win98 if you still want to do it.. :-) Andrew Webber wrote: > I've decided to go ahead and install Windows 98 on my TP600 to get > access to the full capacity of my new 10gig HD. > > It seems to me the best thing is probably to install Windows 98 > from scratch onto my new HD, rather than upgrading the Windows 95 > I'm already running. But the box says the Win98 upgrade will look > for Win95 before it will install. Does that mean I should install > my original Win95 from my recovery CD, then install Win98 as an > upgrade, but on that clean Win95? > > I've read the documentation on IBM's site and plan to do all the > BIOS and other upgrades first. > > Or am I taking the wrong approach altogether? > > Thanks! > > andrew > ------ > current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/LongBeachCA.html -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Mon Nov 15 01:08:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA21417 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:08:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15313; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:07:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:07:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15241; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:07:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15228; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:07:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (198.206.134.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:07:13 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-163.gate.net [199.227.20.226]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA55314; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:07:08 -0500 Message-ID: <382FA31E.EC5804B5@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:07:27 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken CC: Jon W , Thinkpad list Subject: Re: Windows cookies storage (OT) (was: Another debious move byMicrosoft ?) References: <4.2.0.58.19991113105620.00c8e600@mail.ny.viant.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: OK, i'll buy this statement, but what happens to the index file when i delete one of the "cookie" files..?? :-) Ken wrote: > At 12:42 AM 11/13/99 -0600, Jon W wrote: > >If you go to the cookies folder in windows ( use find: cookies) there is one > >file call : Index.dat that seems to get larger and larger by day ! > >You couldnt delete it from windows and you have to do it via MS DOS. > >I was wondering if anyone know what is the purpose of this file. Is this > >another MICROSCARE tatics in order to "log" internet explorer user ?? > > As far as I've been able to determine, Windows keeps track of "special" folders (like Cookies and browsing History) in single indexed files, called index.dat. Then, when we see files inside these folders (representing the actual cookies, or the actual URL's visited), we're really seeing a representation of the index.dat file; i.e. the little files don't exist, just the index.dat file. I believe that when you reboot in DOS mode, you only see the index.dat file. (And, in the History folder, you don't even see the index.dat file when you're looking via Windows.) And, if you view the index.dat file, it contains the data you see inside the virtual files within that folder. > > It's an example of a clever (and useful to the user) way of integrating the browser with the OS - they store things within big files, just like Netscape would, but then they enable the OS's explorer interface to be smart and let the user manipulate the contents of these files as though they were a bunch of smaller files. > > I might be right. Apologies for replying to this off-topic inquiry. > > - Ken -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Mon Nov 15 01:59:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA21545 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:59:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16945; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:58:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:58:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16872; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:58:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16859; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:58:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:58:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA93879; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:57:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:57:35 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Bill Morrow cc: jeroen@netlinq.nl, ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: IBM announces 2048 x 1536 21" LCD In-Reply-To: <382CF87B.EB89DFB0@icanect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 13 Nov 1999, Bill Morrow wrote: > yes, fans.. ! > a variety of video cards.. > a Number 9 and a 3-d blaster banshee.. > both excellent video cards in their time.. or so i was told.. :-) Hmm, not sure about Number 9 cards unless you're talking about the one that is sold with that SGI Flat Planel but 3D Blaster?!?! Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Mon Nov 15 02:03:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA21557 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 02:03:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17183; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 02:02:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 02:02:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17110; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 02:02:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ictransnet.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17097; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 02:02:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from ictransnet.com (209.26.104.4 -> main.ictransnet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 02:02:49 -0500 Received: from ThinkOne (ict46.ictransnet.com [209.26.104.56]) by ictransnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA10829 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 08:10:38 -0500 From: "Rob White" To: Subject: (TP730T) Screen Orientation Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:57:26 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I have seen pictures of 730T's on the vertical stand (which I have) and the orientation of the screen is changed so you can use it properly. I have know idea how this is done. I can not use my stand because everything on the screen is in the landscape orientation. Can anyone help me? I also want to load it with Windows 95 or 98 but need the Windows Pen 3.1 stuff and can't find it anywhere. Does anyone have one of these babies running with Win 95/98 and pen capabilities? I want to put it onto my Win 98 network also. Anyone doing this? I really will appreciate any responses to these questions. Thank you. Rob White From cph Mon Nov 15 07:26:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA22453 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:26:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05507; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:21:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05418; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:21:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.on.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05405; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:21:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.on.home.com (24.2.9.66 -> ha1.rdc1.on.wave.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:21:23 -0500 Received: from pent500 ([24.112.37.101]) by mail.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id <19991115122122.MXNE1914.mail.rdc1.on.home.com@pent500>; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 04:21:22 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.1.19991115071514.02a05ca0@mail.inforamp.net> X-Sender: valliant@mail.inforamp.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:19:33 -0500 To: captjhem@waterw.com, tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Hugh Valliant Subject: Re: TP600: Win98 upgrade Q's In-Reply-To: <199911150529.AAA16250@water.vramp.net> References: <199911150056.TAA01064@spdmraaa.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id HAA22454 Sorry that I wasn't as clear as I should have been. In my response I mentioned the Win95 CD-ROM. I did not mean the recovery CD-ROM. You'll need to get the specific drivers from the IBM website also for your thinkpad... video drivers, audio drivers, modem etc, Hope this helps At 12:20 AM 11/15/99 -0500, you wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:11:45 -0500, Hugh Valliant wrote: > > > > >The question is whether you have the Win95 CD. If you have, > > >just start the Win98 install... it'll say can't find the > > >Win95 folder... insert your Win95 CD... point to it and > > >keep on truckin'.... > > > > I do indeed have the CD, at least the one that came with my > > ThinkPad. > >I'm almost positive that this won't work Andrew. The CD that came with your >TP600 has an image of the original program load, but it's in a compressed >archive. The W98 program won't see the compressed W95 on the recovery >CD. > >You're better off to have your floppy drive installed in the outboard drive >holder and, when prompted, point W98 to the first disk of a W3.1, W3.1.1 or >WFW installation set (I'm sure you have one around or can easily get one). >Any of these will allow you to upgrade to W98 from the upgrade CD. > > > I guess the next problem (that I just thought of) is how do I get > > the TP-specific programs off the original CD? Like the TP > > documentation and other stuff, most of which I don't use often but > > would want access to. > >Here you're in luck. Download (or copy from disk) and install Winzip. It >reads >all of the files and directories on the recovery CD with no problem. You can >then un-compress and copy all of the documentation files you want. Be aware >though that it can't install any of the programs that are on the disk. > >Regards, > >James >                              \\\\!////                             \\  _ _  //                              (  @ @  ) -------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------                   MI-COM Technology         Computer Solutions for Small Business Helping you access and travel the Information Highway                   Hugh A. Valliant        Bus.  (416) 726-5355   Fax. (416) 699-3847          E-mail         valliant@micomtech.com valliant@mi-comtech.com              http://www.mi-comtech.com/ ICQ UIN 4366968 From cph Mon Nov 15 08:51:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA22658 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:51:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09864; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:50:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:50:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09775; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:50:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.zebra.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09762; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:50:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.zebra.net (209.12.13.2 -> mail.zebra.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:50:29 -0500 Received: from PROXIM ([209.12.153.150]) by mail.zebra.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id net for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:43:56 -0600 Message-ID: <004801bf2f5f$bf479000$0a0a0a0a@PROXIM> From: bwjones@zebra.net (Bryan Jones) To: Subject: 730t screen orientation Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 05:51:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Rob, Go here for more information on the 730t. http://www.globalmonitor.com/730Tos.html If you're using Win for Pen 1.0 (Windows 3 with Pen Extensions), then there should be a program, I think in Control Panel, that lets you change the screen orientation. As far as Win95 or 98, there should be some info on that site that will help you if you want that, but it will probably be pretty slow. I tried to set up Win95, but could not figure out how to install the Pen Extension, which must be version 2.0. Good Luck Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Rob White To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, November 15, 1999 1:00 AM Subject: (TP730T) Screen Orientation >I have seen pictures of 730T's on the vertical stand (which I have) and the >orientation of the screen is changed so you can use it properly. I have >know idea how this is done. I can not use my stand because everything on >the screen is in the landscape orientation. Can anyone help me? I also >want to load it with Windows 95 or 98 but need the Windows Pen 3.1 stuff and >can't find it anywhere. Does anyone have one of these babies running with >Win 95/98 and pen capabilities? I want to put it onto my Win 98 network >also. Anyone doing this? I really will appreciate any responses to these >questions. Thank you. > >Rob White > > From cph Mon Nov 15 09:07:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA22742 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:07:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10777; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:06:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:06:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10704; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:06:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10691; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:06:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:06:15 -0500 Received: from mmax8.vramp.net (mmax8.vramp.net [198.138.8.71]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA06450; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:05:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911151405.JAA06450@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: Vincent Poy , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:55:10 -0500 Subject: Number 9 Video Cards Reply-to: captjhem@waterw.com Priority: normal References: <382CF87B.EB89DFB0@icanect.net> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) List-Unsubscribe: On 14 Nov 99, at 22:57, Vincent Poy wrote: > Hmm, not sure about Number 9 cards unless you're talking about the > one that is sold with that SGI Flat Planel but 3D Blaster?!?! Those are "oldie but goodie" video cards. They're still manufactured (in fact some of their new cards are magnificent) but they're best known for their old "GXE" and "Motion" series cards. Their present "Revolution IV" card with 32MB of RAM is supposed to be _the_ card to use with flat panel displays. Regards, James From cph Mon Nov 15 10:04:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA23009 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:04:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14134; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:03:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:02:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14040; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:02:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from cb4.cableone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14025; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:02:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from cb4.cableone.net (24.116.0.204 -> cb4.cableone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:02:50 -0500 Received: from cb4.cableone.net - 24.116.0.204 by cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:59:38 -0700 Received: from defiant (ppp-189.TEX4.cableone.net [24.116.4.189]) by cb4.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v1.5); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:59:37 -0800 Message-ID: <001f01bf2f7a$815f8660$b9cdfea9@defiant> Reply-To: "Charles & Melinda McDaniel" From: "Charles & Melinda McDaniel" To: References: <199911150529.AAA16246@water.vramp.net> Subject: Re: TP 755: updating to Win 98 probs? Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:02:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-SMTP-HELO: defiant X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: cmcdaniel@cableone.net X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: ppp-189.TEX4.cableone.net [24.116.4.189] List-Unsubscribe: Will this 72 Meg upgrade work on a 755cx P-75.???.if it will I'd like to know so I can try it I've got 40 megs in it now and it really isn't enough.. now if I could just find a good video driver for mine I'd be ok this one >from WD on the win 98 CD bites..anyone know of any drivers for a 755cx. Charles & Melinda McDaniel Charles' E-Mail CMcDaniel@cableone.net Melinda's E-Mail SMcDaniel@cableone.net ----- Original Message ----- From: James H. E. Maugham To: Denis Hall ; Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 11:20 PM Subject: Re: TP 755: updating to Win 98 probs? > On 12 Nov 99, at 22:17, Denis Hall wrote: > > > In my experiences, I've been disappointed on most of the ThinkPads > > running Win98...but perhaps I've not configured in most optimized > > manner... but I certainly have been more pleased with Win95 on the 755's > > I've used. > > When I got my first Beta of W98 and installed it on one of my Pentium 755s, I > was less than happy with the result, both from the standpoint of an actual > slowing of the machine's overall performance as well as the relatively > enormous amount of disk space it seemed to require. > > IIRC we had quite a discussion at the time here on the list about the efficacy > of running W98 on the older TPs, with the consensus of opinion at that time > being to stick with W95, especially OS2, because of the lack of support for > the older units. I wound up removing the Beta and re-installing W95. When I > got the Beta 3 I installed it again to see if there had been any improvement > and wound up leaving it on a 755 FBK as a test bed. > > I don't know if it was from any added support from IBM (I don't recall any new > drivers from them for W98 on the 755) or simply a teething process of getting > everything "just so", but I've since loaded W98 SE on all of my older pentiums > with very good results. The non-pentium units are still running W95 however. > > > James, your *rumor* of 72mb possibility on 755 has me looking around > > for DIMM's : ) > > I've got a couple of the DIMM adapters here and a few CD and CX models... > > will test out hypothesis if I can dig up the parts... > > Let me know how you make out! Even with all of the 75X series parts I have > lying about, I don't have a single DIMM adapter. :-( > > Regards, > > James > From cph Mon Nov 15 10:55:02 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA23385 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:55:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17542; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:53:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:53:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17447; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:53:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17434; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.206.140 -> ds-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:53:20 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.1) id KAA08878 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:53:19 -0500 (EST) Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by spdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.1) with SMTP id KAA08787; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:53:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911151553.KAA08787@spdmraaa.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "Bill Morrow" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:53:12 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP600: Win98 upgrade Q's List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:01:06 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >1. you do NOT need to upgrade to win98 to get all of a >10gig to be seen.. >2. for fat32, win95B is all that is required.. When I put it in my UltraSlimBay, only 8 gigs were seen. Even with Partition Magic v4, only 8 gigs, although I was able to format the whole big partition as FAT32, it didn't report any unallocated space. I asked about it on this list, and it seemed like it might be a BIOS limitation or some other Win95 restriction (like the 528Mb limit on my old 386). >3. if no fat32 is wanted, then ANY windows should see >that 10gig.. but in 5 partitions.. >4. I have upgraded my 600 several times from the IBM >preload to win98 and it goes nicely once i overcame >the silliness generated by MS.. > >my two cents is do the recovery then upgrade to win98 >if you still want to do it.. :-) I only wanted Win98 because I thought that's what it would take to get 10 gig. I'm planning on retaining C: and D: partitions on that disk, so it doesn't have to be in one partition. I'll have to do some sort of re-install anyway, since I'm getting an annoying blue screen regularly (but non-fatal, I "press any key" and 3 seconds later I'm back where I was). Thanks for your comments. Any advice on how to see this other 2 gig? Thanks! andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Mon Nov 15 10:58:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA23398 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:58:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18051; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:57:32 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17977; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:57:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:57:32 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id KAA23253 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:48:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from butler.cc.tut.fi (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08207; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from butler.cc.tut.fi (130.230.102.10 -> butler.cc.tut.fi) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:11:28 -0500 Received: (from kaleva@localhost) by butler.cc.tut.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA03136; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:11:22 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199911151311.PAA03136@butler.cc.tut.fi> From: "Osmo Kaleva" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:11:26 +0300 Reply-To: "Osmo Kaleva" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: CardBus driver for TP600 List-Unsubscribe: Hi all! I have ThinkPad 600 with network card 10/100 EtherJet CardBus from IBM. Does there exist a CardBus driver for TP600 and OS/2? If yes, where? I have tried director.exe from IBM but it didn't work. Any ideas? thanks, Osmo Kaleva e-mail: kaleva@cc.tut.fi Department of Mathematics Tampere University of Technology P.O. Box 692 FIN-33101 Tampere, Finland From cph Mon Nov 15 11:50:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA23801 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:50:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22341; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:49:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:48:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22142; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:48:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22119; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (161.44.200.11 -> mill.cisco.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:48:39 -0500 Received: from cisco.com (root@kend-linux.cisco.com [161.44.200.31]) by mill.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA21326; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:47:34 -0500 (EST) Sender: root@mill.cisco.com Message-ID: <38303924.F04E4166@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:47:32 -0500 From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: captjhem@waterw.com CC: Vincent Poy , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Number 9 Video Cards References: <382CF87B.EB89DFB0@icanect.net> <199911151405.JAA06450@water.vramp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have to say that, after looking *closely* at all of the available options, the SGI-cum-Revolution IV card seemed to be the choice to make, and I've never looked back. Other cards to have the ability to output the digital signal required by the SGI (among other flat-panel LCDs), but the two were tweaked big-time for each other. -Ken "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: > On 14 Nov 99, at 22:57, Vincent Poy wrote: > > > Hmm, not sure about Number 9 cards unless you're talking about the > > one that is sold with that SGI Flat Planel but 3D Blaster?!?! > > Those are "oldie but goodie" video cards. They're still manufactured (in fact > some of their new cards are magnificent) but they're best known for their old > "GXE" and "Motion" series cards. > > Their present "Revolution IV" card with 32MB of RAM is supposed to be > _the_ card to use with flat panel displays. > > Regards, > > James From cph Mon Nov 15 15:50:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA25745 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:50:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09529; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:36:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:35:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09389; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:35:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09376; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:35:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:35:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05269; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:35:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:35:01 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: "James H. E. Maugham" cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Number 9 Video Cards In-Reply-To: <199911151405.JAA06450@water.vramp.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, James H. E. Maugham wrote: > > Hmm, not sure about Number 9 cards unless you're talking about the > > one that is sold with that SGI Flat Planel but 3D Blaster?!?! > > Those are "oldie but goodie" video cards. They're still manufactured (in fact > some of their new cards are magnificent) but they're best known for their old > "GXE" and "Motion" series cards. Yeah but weren't all those cards based on S3 chips? > Their present "Revolution IV" card with 32MB of RAM is supposed to be > _the_ card to use with flat panel displays. I hope the Revolution IV card is better than the orginal Revolution card they made which had problems playing VideoCD's. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Mon Nov 15 15:51:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA25753 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:51:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09638; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:36:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:36:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09562; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09547; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:36:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:36:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05279; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:36:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:36:15 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: "Ken D'Ambrosio" cc: captjhem@waterw.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Number 9 Video Cards In-Reply-To: <38303924.F04E4166@cisco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: > I have to say that, after looking *closely* at all of the > available options, the SGI-cum-Revolution IV card seemed > to be the choice to make, and I've never looked back. > Other cards to have the ability to output the digital > signal required by the SGI (among other flat-panel LCDs), > but the two were tweaked big-time for each other. How much does that package cost and where can one get it? I thought the IBM was supposed to be the best display but can that card handle things like gaming and DVD's as well as the Matrox G400Max? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Mon Nov 15 16:07:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA25881 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:07:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11398; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:51:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:51:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11178; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:51:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11161; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:51:12 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mill.cisco.com (161.44.200.11 -> mill.cisco.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:51:13 -0500 Received: from mill.cisco.com (mill.cisco.com [161.44.200.11]) by mill.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA08034; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:49:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:49:50 -0500 (EST) To: Vincent Poy cc: captjhem@waterw.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Number 9 Video Cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: It ain't free. ~$2400, the bulk of which is the monitor, which is *very* nice: 1600x1200. Most of the LCD panels out there do 1024x768, some do 1280x1024 - very few do 1600x1200 or higher, though some do exist. As far as "bang for the buck" goes, though, it won out. If you hit Number Nine's web site, they have lots of reviews of the monitor; worth reading, as they go into detail about why it's such a good combo: http://www.nine.com/products/rev4fp/fpquotes.html (Note that they seem to have taken down some of the links to the reviews; perhaps the reviewing magazines no longer have those particular issues up. Regardless, they were all glowing, and some links are still there...) -Ken On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Vincent Poy wrote: > Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:36:15 -0800 (PST) > From: Vincent Poy > To: Ken D'Ambrosio > Cc: captjhem@waterw.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Number 9 Video Cards > > On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: > > > I have to say that, after looking *closely* at all of the > > available options, the SGI-cum-Revolution IV card seemed > > to be the choice to make, and I've never looked back. > > Other cards to have the ability to output the digital > > signal required by the SGI (among other flat-panel LCDs), > > but the two were tweaked big-time for each other. > > How much does that package cost and where can one get it? I > thought the IBM was supposed to be the best display but can that card > handle things like gaming and DVD's as well as the Matrox G400Max? > > > Cheers, > Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] > GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] > Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > > > From cph Mon Nov 15 16:21:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA25969 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:21:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12871; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:06:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:05:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12729; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:05:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12707; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:05:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05378; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 13:03:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 13:03:32 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: kend@cisco.com cc: captjhem@waterw.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Number 9 Video Cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 kend@cisco.com wrote: > It ain't free. ~$2400, the bulk of which is the monitor, which is *very* > nice: 1600x1200. Most of the LCD panels out there do 1024x768, some do > 1280x1024 - very few do 1600x1200 or higher, though some do exist. As far > as "bang for the buck" goes, though, it won out. If you hit Number Nine's > web site, they have lots of reviews of the monitor; worth reading, as they > go into detail about why it's such a good combo: > http://www.nine.com/products/rev4fp/fpquotes.html > (Note that they seem to have taken down some of the links to the reviews; > perhaps the reviewing magazines no longer have those particular issues up. > Regardless, they were all glowing, and some links are still there...) Yeah, I saw the reviews in the actual magazines before and they said that the IBM Pearl was the better monitor for some reason. Not sure about the Rev IV but how good is that card in terms of playing things such as DVD? The original Rev IV PCI with 8 megs sucked badly for MPEG-1 video since both the audio and video were like chopping up while the Matrox Millenium I/II didn't exhibit this problem. I'm wondering if the G400Max w/32 megs RAM from Matrox with the SGI would be a good combo. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Mon Nov 15 17:49:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA26683 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:49:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18774; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:34:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:33:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18671; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:33:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18657; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:33:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (165.87.194.243 -> out5.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:33:32 -0500 Received: from basterfield.com ([139.92.195.205]) by prserv.net (out5) with SMTP id <1999111522332924301kl4npe>; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:33:30 +0000 Message-ID: <383089DD.AE4ED1F3@basterfield.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:31:57 +0000 From: Daniel Basterfield Organization: My middle name! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob White CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: (TP730T) Screen Orientation References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Rob White wrote: > > I have seen pictures of 730T's on the vertical stand (which I have) and the > orientation of the screen is changed so you can use it properly. I have > know idea how this is done. I can not use my stand because everything on > the screen is in the landscape orientation. Can anyone help me? I also > want to load it with Windows 95 or 98 but need the Windows Pen 3.1 stuff and > can't find it anywhere. Does anyone have one of these babies running with > Win 95/98 and pen capabilities? I want to put it onto my Win 98 network > also. Anyone doing this? I really will appreciate any responses to these > questions. Thank you. > > Rob White I've been working on this, and so far have found the following: Pen Services 1 (Win 3.1) Portrait screen driver ROTATE.DRV from NCR31xx package works fine, provided you get the 82KB ROTATE.DRV - there's also a ~45KB one on the PS 1 packages which doesn't work. Change DISPLAY.DRV= in system.INI to reference ROTATE.DRV; stick the file in C:\windows\system. One of the other vendor PS 1 packages contains a Control Panel applet which rotates the screen; need to track it down again...! I only recently found a URL for the PS 1 TP730 driver, so I've yet to get that rotated (I suspect it'll be harder than doing the PS 2 driver). Pen Services 2 (Win 95) Ah, more success here. Again, use ROTATE.DRV exactly as above, but you may get some video corruption, and only 16 colours are supported (hey, the screen is only a 16-greyscale device anyway...). As to the digitiser drivers, I modified the standard TP730TE driver of PS 2 so that it was rotated by 90 degrees. I've yet to get the packaging properly sorted out, but you can get the details and necessary files from http://www.basterfield.com/tp730/win95/win95-4.htm I have my TP730 in the cradle, running portrait-style all the time. Top! Here's a screen shot I took - it's actually very usable: http://www.basterfield.com/tp730/images/portrait-l.gif Have a look around the website; it's nowhere near sorted out yet, but it's got most of what you need to get Win95 / PS 2 going, and I'm working on Win 3.1 / PS 1. If you need links to Pen Services software etc., check out this (unfinished) page: http://www.basterfield.com/tp730/misc/links.htm Comments/suggestions welcome! Cheers, Dan. -- Daniel Basterfield "He who dies with the most toys wins" OS/2 Certified Engineer Microsoft Certified Professional ----------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM PC110 web page: http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm From cph Mon Nov 15 19:21:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA27375 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:21:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25144; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:13:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:12:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25039; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:12:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot010.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25026; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:12:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot010.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.110 -> pilot010.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:12:30 -0500 Received: from andres (pm391-18.dialip.mich.net [35.9.12.220]) by pilot010.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA92838 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:12:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991115191224.009ee4f0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:12:24 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: ThinkPad 755 question In-Reply-To: <383089DD.AE4ED1F3@basterfield.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have a user who has a model 755C with 20M and about 320M of disk. She wants to add a modem to this computer. Given its age, I don't think it could take Cardbus equipment, so I'm looking at stock PCMCIA modem cards. Are there any to watch out for, compatibility wise? She'd like to spend no more than $125. Any comments about good ones out there? Thanks! --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu From cph Mon Nov 15 20:06:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA27637 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:06:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28298; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:04:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:04:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28219; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:04:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28204; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:03:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (207.172.3.237 -> smtp4.erols.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:03:58 -0500 Received: from win98diane (216-164-129-139.s393.tnt1.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com [216.164.129.139]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id UAA19175 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:03:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <006901bf2fcc$0aae6b60$8b81a4d8@win98diane> From: "You Don't Know" To: Subject: Face blank for Dock II Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:46:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I would like to get a black face blank to fit in the right hand slot on my Dock II. Anyone know where I can find one (other than IBM)? Thanks. Rusty From cph Mon Nov 15 20:30:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA27783 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:30:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29560; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:29:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:29:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29467; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:29:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29457; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:29:23 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.71 -> imo27.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:29:23 -0500 Received: from FRD750@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id o.0.c8adfdf6 (3993) for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:29:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.c8adfdf6.25620d6f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:29:19 EST Subject: Re: ThinkPad 755 question To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 11/15/1999 7:13:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, andres@msu.edu writes: << THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >> I am using a U.S. Robotics 33.6 in the slot. It works very well with 3 different on-line services and usually goes no slower that 28.8 even in the more sparsely settled areas. If that unit can still be found it should be very inexpensive. Fred Cole Tidewater Community College Chesapeake, Va. From cph Mon Nov 15 20:47:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA27878 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:47:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00833; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:47:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:46:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00759; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:46:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00746; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:46:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:46:53 -0500 Received: from mmax42.vramp.net (mmax42.vramp.net [198.138.8.105]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA06904; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:46:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911160146.UAA06904@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: "STeve Andre'" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:33:17 -0500 Subject: Re: ThinkPad 755 question Reply-to: captjhem@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.19991115191224.009ee4f0@pilot.msu.edu> References: <383089DD.AE4ED1F3@basterfield.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) List-Unsubscribe: On 15 Nov 99, at 19:12, STeve Andre' wrote: > I have a user who has a model 755C with 20M and about 320M of disk. > She wants to add a modem to this computer. Given its age, I don't > think it could take Cardbus equipment, so I'm looking at stock PCMCIA > modem cards. I'm using USR/3Com PCMCIA modems almost exclusively in all of my older 755s and 750s (primarily 755cs and 750c units) under W95 with very good results. They are almost all upgraded 28.8s now operating at 33.6, which is about as fast as you want to push things with a low speed 486. These modems and others just like them are traded all the time on eBay for less than $20.00. Regards, James From cph Mon Nov 15 20:54:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA27907 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:54:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01515; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:53:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:53:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01441; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:53:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.radiks.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01421; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:53:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.radiks.net (205.138.126.4 -> mail.radiks.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:53:51 -0500 Received: from default (dsp-43-omaha.radiks.net [206.29.242.45]) by mail.radiks.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA20244 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:51:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002801bf2fd5$7bfa3d40$2df21dce@default> From: "George McDowell" To: Subject: 730T info? Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:54:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01BF2FA3.2E973760" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BF2FA3.2E973760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My name is George McDowell, and I purchased a 730T used from = Globalmonitor. #1 question: will any external fdisk work on the mobile = docking station? #2:Is this how you load a pen application through a = fdisk? #3: Where can I download the OS needed to run pen as I can't get = passed the msdos "correct date /time y-n. If you have some information I = could use, would you please send it to me? 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------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BF2FA3.2E973760-- From cph Mon Nov 15 21:36:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA28212 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:36:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04583; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:35:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:35:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04444; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:35:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.zebra.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04421; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:35:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.zebra.net (209.12.13.2 -> mail.zebra.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:35:07 -0500 Received: from PROXIM ([209.12.15.167]) by mail.zebra.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id net for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:28:32 -0600 Message-ID: <003701bf2fca$99c3aba0$0a0a0a0a@PROXIM> From: bwjones@zebra.net (Bryan Jones) To: Subject: Re: 730T info? Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:36:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01BF2F98.487C3FA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01BF2F98.487C3FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable George, Go to this website for help: http://www.globalmonitor.com/730Tos.html You are going to have a floppy drive to load Windows and Pen Services. = I'm not sure if any will work, though. There's much info on Global = Monitors site concerning that computer. Bryan Jones -----Original Message----- From: George McDowell To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, November 15, 1999 7:52 PM Subject: 730T info? =20 =20 My name is George McDowell, and I purchased a 730T used from = Globalmonitor. #1 question: will any external fdisk work on the mobile = docking station? #2:Is this how you load a pen application through a = fdisk? #3: Where can I download the OS needed to run pen as I can't get = passed the msdos "correct date /time y-n. If you have some information I = could use, would you please send it to me? Thank you, George. e-mail: = gmcdowel@radiks.net=20 =20 =20 Your Message Here Your letter text here. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01BF2F98.487C3FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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You are going to have a floppy drive to load Windows = and Pen=20 Services. I'm not sure if any will work, though. There's much info on = Global=20 Monitors site concerning that computer.
 
Bryan Jones
 
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To:= =20 thinkpad@cs.utk.edu = <thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>
Dat= e:=20 Monday, November 15, 1999 7:52 PM
Subject: 730T=20 info?

My name is George McDowell, and I purchased a 730T used from=20 Globalmonitor. #1 question: will any external fdisk work on the = mobile=20 docking station? #2:Is this how you load a pen application through a = fdisk?=20 #3: Where can I download the OS needed to run pen as I can't get = passed the=20 msdos "correct date /time y-n. If you have some information I = could=20 use, would you please send it to me? Thank you, George. e-mail: gmcdowel@radiks.net =

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------=_NextPart_000_0034_01BF2F98.487C3FA0-- From cph Mon Nov 15 23:54:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA28949 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:54:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11821; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:53:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:52:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11709; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:52:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11694; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:52:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (198.206.134.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:52:43 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-183.gate.net [207.36.212.183]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20546; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:52:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3830E328.EBD63CE3@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:52:57 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Webber CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP600: Win98 upgrade Q's References: <199911151553.KAA08787@spdmraaa.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Andrew.. if I sold that drive to you, send it to me and let me test it in my 600 here.. if theres something wrong with it, i'll get you another.. (shipping on me) if i did NOT sell you that drive, i'll check it out and, if there is nothing wrong physically with it, i'll send it back with one big 10gig partition... (shipping on you) i know shiping from canada ,ight be a bit costly, so if you want to, get everything ready and give me a call and i'll walk you through it.. be sure, first, that you have the most recent bios.. if there is nothing critical on the drive, i suggest running fdisk (delete all partitions and set up one big partition) and then reformatting it with one huge 10gig, fat32 partition.. use the /s switch to put a system on the drive.. then reload win9?... if you try to use the recovery CD, it'll hand you 4 or 5 partitions.. i can see no reason, other than an unusually old bios or a physical problem with the drive or an incredibly silly mistake (we ALL make them!) that would keep that drive from delivering the full 10gigs.. you will need a win95B or newer boot diskette with the usual utilities on it.. note: the full 10gigs (decimal) works out to about 9.34 real gigabytes (binary or hex or octal)... Andrew Webber wrote: > On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:01:06 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: > > >1. you do NOT need to upgrade to win98 to get all of a > >10gig to be seen.. > >2. for fat32, win95B is all that is required.. > > When I put it in my UltraSlimBay, only 8 gigs were seen. Even with > Partition Magic v4, only 8 gigs, although I was able to format the > whole big partition as FAT32, it didn't report any unallocated > space. > > I asked about it on this list, and it seemed like it might be a > BIOS limitation or some other Win95 restriction (like the 528Mb > limit on my old 386). > > >3. if no fat32 is wanted, then ANY windows should see > >that 10gig.. but in 5 partitions.. > >4. I have upgraded my 600 several times from the IBM > >preload to win98 and it goes nicely once i overcame > >the silliness generated by MS.. > > > >my two cents is do the recovery then upgrade to win98 > >if you still want to do it.. :-) > > I only wanted Win98 because I thought that's what it would take to > get 10 gig. I'm planning on retaining C: and D: partitions on that > disk, so it doesn't have to be in one partition. > > I'll have to do some sort of re-install anyway, since I'm getting > an annoying blue screen regularly (but non-fatal, I "press any key" > and 3 seconds later I'm back where I was). > > Thanks for your comments. Any advice on how to see this other 2 > gig? > > Thanks! > > andrew > ------ > current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Mon Nov 15 23:55:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA28953 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:55:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11936; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:54:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:54:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11855; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:53:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11842; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:53:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (198.206.134.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:53:58 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-183.gate.net [207.36.212.183]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA115738; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:53:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3830E374.660E2AE7@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:54:12 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles & Melinda McDaniel CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 755: updating to Win 98 probs? References: <199911150529.AAA16246@water.vramp.net> <001f01bf2f7a$815f8660$b9cdfea9@defiant> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: the 755CX memory limit is 40megs.. period.. Charles & Melinda McDaniel wrote: > Will this 72 Meg upgrade work on a 755cx P-75.???.if it will I'd like to > know so I can try it I've got 40 megs in it now and it really isn't enough.. > now if I could just find a good video driver for mine I'd be ok this one > from WD on the win 98 CD bites..anyone know of any drivers for a 755cx. > > Charles & Melinda McDaniel > > Charles' E-Mail CMcDaniel@cableone.net > > Melinda's E-Mail SMcDaniel@cableone.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James H. E. Maugham > To: Denis Hall ; > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 11:20 PM > Subject: Re: TP 755: updating to Win 98 probs? > > > On 12 Nov 99, at 22:17, Denis Hall wrote: > > > > > In my experiences, I've been disappointed on most of the ThinkPads > > > running Win98...but perhaps I've not configured in most optimized > > > manner... but I certainly have been more pleased with Win95 on the 755's > > > I've used. > > > > When I got my first Beta of W98 and installed it on one of my Pentium > 755s, I > > was less than happy with the result, both from the standpoint of an actual > > slowing of the machine's overall performance as well as the relatively > > enormous amount of disk space it seemed to require. > > > > IIRC we had quite a discussion at the time here on the list about the > efficacy > > of running W98 on the older TPs, with the consensus of opinion at that > time > > being to stick with W95, especially OS2, because of the lack of support > for > > the older units. I wound up removing the Beta and re-installing W95. When > I > > got the Beta 3 I installed it again to see if there had been any > improvement > > and wound up leaving it on a 755 FBK as a test bed. > > > > I don't know if it was from any added support from IBM (I don't recall any > new > > drivers from them for W98 on the 755) or simply a teething process of > getting > > everything "just so", but I've since loaded W98 SE on all of my older > pentiums > > with very good results. The non-pentium units are still running W95 > however. > > > > > James, your *rumor* of 72mb possibility on 755 has me looking around > > > for DIMM's : ) > > > I've got a couple of the DIMM adapters here and a few CD and CX > models... > > > will test out hypothesis if I can dig up the parts... > > > > Let me know how you make out! Even with all of the 75X series parts I have > > lying about, I don't have a single DIMM adapter. :-( > > > > Regards, > > > > James > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Tue Nov 16 00:05:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA29026 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:05:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12517; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:03:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:03:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12443; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:03:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12430; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:03:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (198.206.134.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:03:05 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-183.gate.net [207.36.212.183]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA38806; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:03:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3830E598.84F12BA@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:03:21 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "STeve Andre'" CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 755 question References: <3.0.6.32.19991115191224.009ee4f0@pilot.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Steve... just find her a decent 56k modem.. non-cardbuss of course.. cost should be under $100... i have a viking i use since its cellular capable.. my cost (i'm a dealer for viking) was about $85 and it included a motorola startac cord.. (special deal then) STeve Andre' wrote: > I have a user who has a model 755C with 20M and about 320M of disk. > She wants to add a modem to this computer. Given its age, I don't > think it could take Cardbus equipment, so I'm looking at stock PCMCIA > modem cards. > > Are there any to watch out for, compatibility wise? She'd like to spend > no more than $125. Any comments about good ones out there? > > Thanks! > > --STeve Andre' > andres@msu.edu -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Tue Nov 16 00:36:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA29121 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:36:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14248; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:35:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:34:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14145; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:34:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14131; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:34:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:34:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA07569 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:34:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:34:04 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Win98 Registry tracking Question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Greetings everyone, I am having a problem with IE5 on my 770Z that was upgraded with Win98's webupdate. It seems with the webform scripting based e-mail on my broker Charles Schwab's website, there is something in user.dat that the website is trying to access which both Microsoft and Charles Schwab tech support is unable to determine. Is there any utility that one can use to see what information a certain program or website is trying to access in the registry because Microsoft tech support can duplicate the problem but was unable to determine which registry key in user.dat is causing the problem. Thanks in advance! Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Tue Nov 16 00:37:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA29128 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:37:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14378; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:36:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:36:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14305; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:36:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14292; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:36:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (140.142.76.8 -> jason02.u.washington.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:36:49 -0500 Received: from dante15.u.washington.edu (williams@dante15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.84]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA14040 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:36:47 -0800 Received: from localhost (williams@localhost) by dante15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA89244 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:36:46 -0800 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:36:46 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Williams" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Update Connector Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I saw a reference to this and was what exactly it does, how well it works and what is required to use it? I have a 770ED with Win 95 OSR2. Thanks, John From cph Tue Nov 16 03:36:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA29650 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 03:36:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21543; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 03:35:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 03:34:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21418; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 03:34:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21404; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 03:34:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (193.149.48.10 -> slarti.muc.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 03:34:43 -0500 Received: (qmail 21043 invoked by uid 66); 16 Nov 1999 08:36:06 -0000 Received: from seneca by slarti with UUCP; Tue Nov 16 08:36:06 1999 -0000 Received: by seneca.muc.de (Postfix, from userid 0) id BDA7A601F; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 01:59:42 +0100 (CET) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Harald Milz Newsgroups: local.ml.thinkpad Subject: Re: CardBus driver for TP600 Date: 16 Nov 1999 00:59:42 GMT Organization: Linux.DE Lines: 13 Message-ID: <80qa9u$38h$4@seneca.muc.de> References: <199911151311.PAA03136@butler.cc.tut.fi> Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost X-Trace: seneca.muc.de 942713982 3345 127.0.0.1 (16 Nov 1999 00:59:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@seneca.muc.de NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Nov 1999 00:59:42 GMT X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-19990517 ("Psychonaut") (UNIX) (Linux/2.2.10-hm (i586)) Sender: news@seneca.muc.de List-Unsubscribe: Osmo Kaleva wrote: > I have ThinkPad 600 > with network card 10/100 EtherJet CardBus from IBM. > Does there exist a CardBus driver for TP600 and OS/2? > If yes, where? Ever tried ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs ? -- On-line, adj.: The idea that a human being should always be accessible to a computer. From cph Tue Nov 16 04:15:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA29751 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:15:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23326; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:15:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:15:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23243; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:15:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23226; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:15:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:15:03 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [194.216.44.43]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23206; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:15:06 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [194.216.44.36]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA12496; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:14:59 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 9:14:56 +0000 To: "STeve Andre'" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, "James H. E. Maugham" Subject: Re[2]: ThinkPad 755 question MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id EAA29752 I use a 56k in my 755C no probs. I think PCMCIA cards emulate UARTS with 16 character buffers so the PC should be able to support that speed. (After all ethernet cards work fine, they're a factor of 100 faster in terms of throughput). The main problem you'll find is that running lots of browser windows under windoze will use up memory, but 20MB should give you at least 8. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: ThinkPad 755 question Author: PC:"James H. E. Maugham" at INTERNET Date: 11/16/99 1:52 AM On 15 Nov 99, at 19:12, STeve Andre' wrote: > I have a user who has a model 755C with 20M and about 320M of disk. > She wants to add a modem to this computer. Given its age, I don't > think it could take Cardbus equipment, so I'm looking at stock PCMCIA > modem cards. I'm using USR/3Com PCMCIA modems almost exclusively in all of my older 755s and 750s (primarily 755cs and 750c units) under W95 with very good results. They are almost all upgraded 28.8s now operating at 33.6, which is about as fast as you want to push things with a low speed 486. These modems and others just like them are traded all the time on eBay for less than $20.00. Regards, James ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Tue Nov 16 12:34:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA31978 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:34:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27257; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:32:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:30:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27094; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:30:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27081; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:30:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.206.140 -> ds-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:30:42 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.1) id MAA28193 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:30:40 -0500 (EST) Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (x2port96.magma.ca [206.191.28.96]) by spdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.1) with SMTP id MAA28094; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:30:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911161730.MAA28094@spdmraaa.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "Bill Morrow" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:14:30 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP600: Win98 upgrade Q's List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:52:57 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >if I sold that drive to you, send it to me and let me test >it in my 600 here.. >if theres something wrong with it, i'll get you another.. >(shipping on me) >if i did NOT sell you that drive, i'll check it out and, >if there is nothing wrong physically with it, i'll send >it back with one big 10gig partition... (shipping on you) >i know shiping from canada might be a bit costly, so >if you want to, get everything ready and give me a call >and i'll walk you through it.. Thanks, Bill! I really appreciate the offer. The disk is in fact the one you sold me, and I'll post up-front that there's nothing wrong with it. Now on to the details... >be sure, first, that you have the most recent bios.. When it was suggested to be a BIOS limitation, I did wonder if the latest BIOS patch from ibm.com would fix it. But I read and read the documentation and couldn't find anything that said the latest patch would increase the HD size limit. So last night I did the BIOS patch, changed the 10gig back to FAT (I'd made it FAT32, but the Recovery CD instructions say it won't like that), booted from recovery disk and did the Win95 load (left it running and went to bed). This morning I checked and Partition Magic now reports it to be "9582Mb" which is close enough and certainly more than 8! So it really was the out-of-date BIOS. (I bought the Win98 upgrade but intelligently didn't rip the shrinkwrap). >if there is nothing critical on the drive, i suggest >running fdisk (delete all partitions and set up one >big partition) and then reformatting it with one huge >10gig, fat32 partition.. use the /s switch to put a >system on the drive.. then reload win9?... if you >try to use the recovery CD, it'll hand you 4 or >5 partitions.. Yeah I know, but I thought it would be easier to use the recovery CD and then Partition Magic, than try to get some of the TP applications off the CD. And it's the only copy of Win95 I have. (I do have this upgrade version of Win98 still shrinkwrapped... ;). >i can see no reason, other than an unusually old bios >or a physical problem with the drive or an incredibly >silly mistake (we ALL make them!) that would keep >that drive from delivering the full 10gigs.. you will >need a win95B or newer boot diskette with the usual >utilities on it. I'm always willing to admit my mistakes. I have to admit I should have been more alert to the "it's a BIOS limitation" answers a few weeks ago and done that update first. On the other hand, I really need a fresh Win95 install (NFS software died, random blue screens that cause no problem, some other incidental things), and I've been putting it off so I could apply it to the 10gig rather than messing with a possibly unstable configuration on the 6gig. Being more alert might have stopped me from buying and returning Win98, on the other hand I'd have wanted it in case that _didn't_ fix the problem, and I'm desperately trying not to tinker with what's on the 6gig! >note: the full 10gigs (decimal) works out to about 9.34 >real gigabytes (binary or hex or octal)... Then I'd say I'm seeing the full amount at 9582Mb. Thanks again to Bill and everyone else! andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Tue Nov 16 14:01:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA32744 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:01:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02915; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:59:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:58:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02820; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:58:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from acunet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02807; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:58:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from acunet.net (208.203.130.2) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:58:24 -0500 Received: from xpool68.acunet.net (xpool68.acunet.net [208.208.7.68]) by acunet.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA27319 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:57:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911161857.NAA27319@acunet.net> From: "Jeffrey D Grinnell" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:58:41 -0400 Reply-To: "Jeffrey D Grinnell" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [TP770] NS4.61 video corruption under OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: I'm running Netscape 4.61 (128 bit encryption) on my Thinkpad 770 (233MHz w/ 96MB) under OS/2 4.0 fixpack 10. I'm seeing video corruption in the window text if I scroll up or down. I also see video corruption of the vertical scroll bar itself. I just downloaded the most recent copy of NS 4.61 from IBM's site and have also installed the most recent copy of the video drivers from the TP device driver matrix. After a posting to an OS/2 newsgroup I received a reply from someone who was running NS4.61 on the same model Thinkpad as I without any video corruption so there must be a solution. If anyone has any ideas as to what else I should check I'd be grateful. Jeff From cph Tue Nov 16 19:56:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA03152 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:56:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26665; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:55:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:54:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26537; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:54:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26524; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:54:38 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.72 -> imo28.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:54:38 -0500 Received: from TAUBELS@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id o.0.c73ba73c (3852) for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:54:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.c73ba73c.256356cb@aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:54:35 EST Subject: 760CD mdl. 9546 U1C To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 39 List-Unsubscribe: Thanks again for all the help last time, I have another question, I can purchase a 24x CD, however I'm not sure if it will fit my mdl., I tried the IBM web site with no luck, the #'s on the CD are fru p/n 02K0515, and asm p/n 02k0513. Does anyone know if this will fit the 760 CD. Thanks again....Scott From cph Tue Nov 16 20:59:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA03610 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:59:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00575; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:56:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:53:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00299; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:53:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00284; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:53:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.20 -> tele-post-20.mail.demon.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:53:14 -0500 Received: from fever0.demon.co.uk ([212.229.91.61]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11nuHG-0001LL-0K for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 01:52:55 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 01:51:25 +0000 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Nicolas Fitzgerald Subject: Re: Thinkpad 760 EL w/ CD or FDD, how to install CDROM-based? References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S <6MZ6nhxqzPBHjdVLpKeV8o4pmf> List-Unsubscribe: In article , a.walter@bbdo-interactive.de writes > >Hi, > > >I've got an older 760 EL with Floppy OR CDROM (inside). >After being happy with OS/2 for years, I now need to install a second >system. >I would like to do a CDROM based LINUX installation with a bootable CD. >But my 760 does not seem to be able to set the CDROM as boot device. > >And being unable to have a CDROM _AND_ a FDD at a time ... what can I do? > >Thanks for any help, >Andreas. > > > Right, I was doing this (similar problem, as my f.d.d. is mangled) for the past 2-3 days (and nights) on a 760 ED with just a CDrom and hdd! - Make your h.d.d. bootable, any version of dos (even the horrid one that comes with W9x) will do. (You say you have OS2! If you're going to dual boot, then you'll probably already know how to go about it, as it is totally different to what you'd do with M$ OS'es; but the principle stays the same, i guess) - Boot with the CDRom in the machine. - Insert a Linux distro CD.. I've tried RH 5.0, RH 5.1, and RH 6.1 CD's, and they all work (some easier than others)! - Find the dir Dosutils on the CD, and type autoboot in it. This executes an autoboot.bat batch file that does all the necessary things for you. You'll then see LILO loader triggered off by Loadlin. Now, if you happen to have a distro that isn't the real thing (i.e. from a magazine cover disk, as was my RH 6.1) then you'll have to tell the boot loader which kernel to load, and where it is..., as for some reason it doesn't find the path, or the kernel, or anything, unless you do it as autoboot. here the syntax: LOADLIN initrd= e.g. LOADLIN D:\Dosutils\VMLINUZ initrd=C:\Dosutils\Autoboot\INITRD (was in my case) Which ever it is, just read the Loadlin manual, I was surprised how detailed and well written it is (as everything in Linux) as you don't see it normally on the CD's, IT IS in a .tgz archive in the Dosutils dir. After this the installation starts... BTW: one seriously pesky thing to watch out for is your CDRom driver!!! If you load any additional options (switches) in the IbmTPCD.sys driver, DISABLE them, esp. the POWER SAVING (IIRC it's /S), and all the DOS (if you have the equivalent in OS/2) stuff such as Himem, Smartdrv, Emm386 etc. The /s switch kept freezing up the installation on my TP while I was trying to repartition the drive in DiskDruid... Good luck -- Nicolas Fitzgerald London U.K. From cph Wed Nov 17 15:37:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA08714 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:37:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12493; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:36:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:30:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12012; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:30:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11990; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:30:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.41 -> finch-post-12.mail.demon.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:30:03 -0500 Received: from fever0.demon.co.uk ([212.229.91.61]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11oBiF-0003zD-0C for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:29:56 +0000 Message-ID: <2z8xbKAk$wM4EwcV@fever0.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:28:20 +0000 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Nicolas Fitzgerald Subject: Windows cookies storage (OT) (was: Another debious move byMicrosoft ?) References: <4.2.0.58.19991113105620.00c8e600@mail.ny.viant.com> <382FA31E.EC5804B5@icanect.net> In-Reply-To: <382FA31E.EC5804B5@icanect.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S List-Unsubscribe: In article <382FA31E.EC5804B5@icanect.net>, Bill Morrow writes >OK, i'll buy this statement, but what happens to the index file when i delete >one of the "cookie" files..?? :-) That' the point where your M$ OS's Karma starts going bad! :))) -- Nicolas Fitzgerald London, U.K. From cph Wed Nov 17 21:55:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA11134 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:55:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04664; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:54:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:53:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04530; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04511; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:53:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (132.187.1.7 -> wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:53:20 -0500 Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.2.12]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8/uniwue-MM-1.0) with ESMTP id DAA21643 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 03:53:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 18 Nov 99 03:53:14 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.44); 18 Nov 99 03:53:03 +0200 Received: from mail.stelarcom.de (132.187.248.103) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 18 Nov 99 03:52:57 +0200 Received: from babylon5 (babylon5.stelarcom.de [192.168.0.2] ) by mail.stelarcom.de (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 23:35:18 -0100 Message-Id: <199911172335.1832130.7@mail.stelarcom.de> From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 23:35:16 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Alexander Wagner" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.1999 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Denis' ThinkPad :-) List-Unsubscribe: Hi all! Just to mention it here: If someone needs a ThinkPad and reads something like "For sale" and "FORM: Denis Hall " I'd really advise you to look if he has what you're looking for and and in case order immediatly! Today I got one of his 760's he announced some weeks ago. Well delivery of money form germany and of hardware to germany takes time, it's not Denis who needed that long :) And I must stress what other people told here on the list some weeks ago. The machine arrived in perfect condition, if I wouldn't know that it's right out of IBM's production I'd guess it's directly from there. Was a really good deal! -- CU/2 (( In the beginning was The Word Alexander Wagner )) and The Word was Content-type: text/plain Team OS/2 Franken (( _________________________________________________________________________ -=[ Team OS/2 Germany #294 ]=- Please use only A.Wagner@TeamOS2.de or A.Wagner@Bigfoot.de for replies, even if some other addresses may appear. Thanks! 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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF315A.66EEB1C0-- From cph Thu Nov 18 11:58:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA14300 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:58:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20308; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:55:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:53:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20102; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:53:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20044; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:52:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (198.206.134.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:53:05 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-8.gate.net [207.36.212.8]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA118344; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:52:27 -0500 Message-ID: <38342EDC.A7DD4A2E@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:52:44 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: TAUBELS@aol.com CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760CD mdl. 9546 U1C References: <0.c73ba73c.256356cb@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: IF the CD you want is of the type that will physically fit in the 760CD box, then it will work.. but it must be one originally designed for the 760 series.. i.e. 760CD, ED, XD, 765D or L, and NOT one designed for the 365 or other thinkpads... TAUBELS@aol.com wrote: > Thanks again for all the help last time, I have another question, I can > purchase a 24x CD, however I'm not sure if it will fit my mdl., I tried the > IBM web site with no luck, the #'s on the CD are fru p/n 02K0515, and asm p/n > 02k0513. Does anyone know if this will fit the 760 CD. Thanks again....Scott -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Thu Nov 18 20:25:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA17283 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:25:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20704; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:24:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:21:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20457; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:21:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20444; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:21:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:21:12 -0500 Received: from mmax6.vramp.net (mmax6.vramp.net [198.138.8.69]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA09547; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:21:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911190121.UAA09547@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: Bill Morrow , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:18:21 -0500 Subject: HELP!!! (As Usual!!) Reply-to: captjhem@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <38342EDC.A7DD4A2E@icanect.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) List-Unsubscribe: Sorry for always begging for assistance folks, but I'm seriously bummed and totally discombobulated. I'm attempting to reload all of the original program loads on a "new" 755CD that was recently donated. I have done this before, perhaps ten times in the past 2 years, with the same Recovery CD copy and Recovery Boot Diskette copy without problems. I don't have my outboard floppy for these systems, but this has never been a problem before as the recovery program allows "hot swapping" the CD drive. The problem today is that when I attempt to boot from the recovery disk, I get a "Required Device Not Found" message and then the system begins an endless round of reboot, message, reboot, message, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. I've made another copy of the boot disk from my pristine original, but this hasn't helped. Any ideas? Anybody got a virgin copy of the recovery disk (not the CD) that could send me a compressed copy? (Bill????) Anybody got a fix? I've hacked a bit at the .BATs on the backup copy of the recovery disk, but I apparently haven't found the cure yet. Or am I going to have to break down and get my outboard floppy back from my daughter in Boston? Regards, James From cph Thu Nov 18 20:41:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA17377 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:41:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21710; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:40:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:40:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21627; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:40:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21610; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.217.152 -> ah-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:40:39 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) id UAA29085 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:40:38 -0500 (EST) Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (x2port99.magma.ca [206.191.28.99]) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) with SMTP id UAA29002; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:40:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911190140.UAA29002@hpamraaa.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "captjhem@waterw.com" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:40:32 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: HELP!!! (As Usual!!) List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:18:21 -0500, James H. E. Maugham wrote: >Any ideas? Anybody got a virgin copy of the recovery disk >(not the CD) that could send me a compressed copy? >(Bill????) Anybody got a fix? I've hacked a bit at the >.BATs on the backup copy of the recovery disk, but I >apparently haven't found the cure yet. I have a TP600 so I can't help with that specific disk, but I thought I'd lost my recovery (boot) diskette and discovered it was downloadable from the ibm site. So I downloaded the file and copied it to A: (I'm moving to a new HD, so I could do this with my old one). Worked fine! Then of course I found the original recovery diskette but I haven't used it. andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Thu Nov 18 21:56:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA17805 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:56:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25132; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:55:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:54:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25019; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:54:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25005; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:54:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:54:44 -0500 Received: from mmax56.vramp.net (mmax56.vramp.net [198.138.8.119]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA16483; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:54:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911190254.VAA16483@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: penzance@icanect.net, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:51:34 -0500 Subject: Re: HELP!!! (As Usual!!) Reply-to: captjhem@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <199911190121.UAA09547@water.vramp.net> References: <38342EDC.A7DD4A2E@icanect.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) List-Unsubscribe: On 18 Nov 99, at 20:18, James H. E. Maugham wrote: > Sorry for always begging for assistance folks, but I'm seriously bummed > and totally discombobulated. And I'm especially sorry when I do something REALLY stupid!!! I was using the recovery disk for my 760XL, NOT the selectasystem recovery disk for the 755CD. Doh!!! James From cph Thu Nov 18 23:43:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA18345 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:43:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29220; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:40:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29059; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29045; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:40:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (198.206.134.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:40:01 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-451.gate.net [199.227.173.197]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA18932; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:39:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3834D4A9.B3649C65@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:40:09 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: captjhem@waterw.com CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: HELP!!! (As Usual!!) References: <38342EDC.A7DD4A2E@icanect.net> <199911190254.VAA16483@water.vramp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: i was going to look for my 755 recovery diskette, then i saw this followup message.. :-) the thing all should know is that these diskette images are available on the IBM web site.. also, usually, there is a diskette image on the CD.. "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: > On 18 Nov 99, at 20:18, James H. E. Maugham wrote: > > > Sorry for always begging for assistance folks, but I'm seriously bummed > > and totally discombobulated. > > And I'm especially sorry when I do something REALLY stupid!!! > > I was using the recovery disk for my 760XL, NOT the selectasystem recovery > disk for the 755CD. > > Doh!!! > > James -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Fri Nov 19 06:10:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA19348 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:10:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22496; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:09:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22420; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:09:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mozart.inet.co.th (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22403; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:08:39 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mozart.inet.co.th (203.150.14.100 -> mozart.inet.co.th) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:08:40 -0500 Received: from TruPPP3423.inet.co.th (TruPPP3423.inet.co.th [203.151.127.83]) by mozart.inet.co.th (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA05430 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 18:08:31 +0700 (GMT+0700) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Help please: TP600E FDD problem after installing W98SE Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 18:07:03 +0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.6/32.525 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id GAA19349 I have a problem! After a clean install (after a hard disk format) of the full version (not an upgrade) of Windows 98 Second Edition (Thai language edition) onto my ThinkPad 600E (model 2645-8AU), I was unable to access my external floppy disk drive. The drive is listed under 'My computer', but when the icon is clicked (single-click, double-click, whatever..), the machine hangs (the only way out was to flick the power switch). This is consistent and repeatable *every time* - ever since I installed W98SE (even before I installed all the latest (downloaded) drivers from IBM). One thing that I noticed was that there is a message under System Properties' "Performance" Tab, saying "Drive A is using an MS-DOS compatibility mode file system". This also remained from the very beginning directly after installation of W98SE. Curiously, this problem (and the 'MS-DOS compatibility mode' issue) seem to be resolved when putting the floppy disk drive into the Ultraslim Bay (in place of the CD drive). I had no problems of this nature when running Thai Win98 Thai (which was installed directly over the US Win98 preinstall) for the past 5 months. The problems were relatively minor and were entirely to do with the fonts - after asking around, I was told that I shouldn't have installed Thai W98 over US W98 and a 'simple' solution would be to do a clean install. Only in the last few days has the Thai W98 Second Edition been available, so I thought I'd give it a go. And, as far as I was aware, the W98SE installation went smoothly - everything else seems to be working fine. The only 'scare' during the installation was when the system seemed to have crashed during the setting up of Start menu programs (in the final stage of W98SE installation), but, with a little patience, the installation continued to completion after about 10 minutes of inactivity. I am seriously in need to help - searching around IBM's and Microsoft's web sites didn't get me anywhere on this issue. Any help or advice from anyone would be greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Nick From cph Fri Nov 19 09:03:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA19967 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:03:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00494; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:00:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00383; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:00:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00370; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:00:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:00:52 -0500 Received: from mmax9.vramp.net (mmax9.vramp.net [198.138.8.72]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA21176; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:00:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911191400.JAA21176@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: Bill Morrow , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:55:33 -0500 Subject: Re: HELP!!! (As Usual!!) Reply-to: captjhem@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3834D4A9.B3649C65@icanect.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) List-Unsubscribe: Bill, On 18 Nov 99, at 23:40, Bill Morrow wrote: > the thing all should know is that these diskette images are available on > the IBM web site.. Yes, but I had gotten the "new" file from there and that was the one I was having difficulty with, albeit due to operator error (e.g. using the wrong CD). > also, usually, there is a diskette image on the CD. But in the typical IBM "Catch 22", without a working boot disk, the CD isn't recognized so you can't access the CD to get the diskette image to get the CD recognized, etc. And there isn't a disk image on my 760XL recovery CD, just the 3 large compressed image files. Which was the eventual giveaway when I went looking for the diskette image on the CD on my desktop. Put CD in, open Explorer, look for diskette image....... hmmmmmmmm...... not there! Check Explorer settings to show details and all files..... yep, they're set. Take CD out and stare at it as though I'll be able to "see" the boot diskette. Put it back in.........., search some more......., take CD out and look at it again......... "Product Recovery CD ROM", yeah that's right........, "IBM Thinkpad 760XL", yeah....... WAIT A MINUTE!!!! Doh!!! James From cph Fri Nov 19 15:23:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA22031 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:23:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27233; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:21:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:19:58 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27078; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:19:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:19:54 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id PAA01174 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08667; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 18:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.36 -> mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 13 Nov 1999 18:48:36 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.19.133]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991113234834.ZFUU26289@compaq> for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:48:34 +0000 Message-ID: <382E22D8.129E@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 18:47:52 -0800 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: [Fwd: Re: Upgrade your 75X/760!] - another great list member! Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------6D9D2F0472C5" List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6D9D2F0472C5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought you would all enjoy seeing this after I turned down his offer of a 755CD with a cracked screen and bad video card in exchange for a 760XL with a warranty. Real class --------------6D9D2F0472C5 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from web207.mail.yahoo.com ([128.11.68.107]) by mtiwgwc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991113234202.FWQP22597@web207.mail.yahoo.com> for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:42:02 +0000 Message-ID: <19991113234202.3310.rocketmail@web207.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.215.86.155] by web207.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 15:42:02 PST Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 15:42:02 -0800 (PST) From: Pencetera Reply-To: pencetera@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Upgrade your 75X/760! To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bite me asshole. I wasn't suggesting an even trade. You are pretty fucking stupid. I simply wanted to see if you would be willing to give a partial credit. You are an absolutely clueless business person. I have the money in hand but wouldn't spend a damn dime with you. You should try acting like you are in business to make money. Jerk. --- Bruce Markowitz wrote: > Well, you did! > That's one of the silliest requests I ever got. You > send me junk, I send > you a working, warrantied machien! > > Pencetera wrote: > > > > Pardon me, didn't mean to annoy you. > > > > --- Bruce Markowitz > > wrote: > > > At these prices I am not interested in stuff > with > > > broken screens. These > > > will bring $400 on ebay. > > > You can use your floppy drive, battery (from the > > > 760L) ac adaptor, and > > > possibly your memory DIMM. THe hard drive form > the > > > 760 will work, as > > > will the HDD from the 755CD, as long as you > remove > > > it from the caddy and > > > just use it with the plug. > > > Better than that I can't (and won't ) do. > > > BTW, what the heck do you think a 755CD with a > > > crakced screen is > > > worth???? And the system board is bad (video is > on > > > there). You have > > > absolutely nothing to trade, except for the > above > > > mentioned parts. > > > > > > Pencetera wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Bruce, > > > > > > > > I'd be interested in one of those 760XL > machines. > > > I > > > > have a 755CD parts machine, cracked display > and > > > needs > > > > a either a new video card or a repair, one of > the > > > > connectors came off. I'll offer that and a > 760L > > > that > > > > needs a new mainboard and the display works > but > > > has a > > > > loose connection somewhere, it comes up all > white > > > at > > > > times, otherwise in near new condition. > > > > > > > > It comes with a memory expansion board and one > 8Mb > > > > dimm. What kind of trade in on these two > towards a > > > > 760XL? Let me know, I also have a good 750 > NiMH > > > > battery as well. Let me know if you are > interested > > > in > > > > any of these and we'll go from there. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike B. > > > > > > > > --- Bruce Markowitz > > > > wrote: > > > > > I have a few IBM 760 ThinkPads available > > > > > Group one is 760XL P166MMX > > > > > These are in good shape and all have > remaining > > > > > warranty into year 2000 > > > > > These take all 760 accs and most 75X accs > > > > > These are bare shells, no hard drive, no > > > battery, no > > > > > AC adaptor, no > > > > > CD-ROM. They all have 16MB memory, but I can > > > supply > > > > > add's memory on > > > > > request. Screens are good. The "bezel" > around > > > the > > > > > floppy drive is not > > > > > included. Asking $300 each. I will have some > > > > > complete units available, > > > > > price much higher! > > > > > Group 2 is IBM 760EL. Same condition and > specs > > > as > > > > > above. Asking $275.00 > > > > > each. Only have a few > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > Bill M: > > > > > If you have some parts, we can make a deal! > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low > > > Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Bid and sell for free at > http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > > > ===== > > http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low > Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > ===== http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com --------------6D9D2F0472C5-- From cph Fri Nov 19 15:26:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA22061 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:26:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27734; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:25:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:25:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27652; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:25:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27638; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:25:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (198.206.134.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:25:21 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-254.gate.net [199.227.131.63]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA65084; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:25:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3835B230.86F9152B@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:25:20 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: captjhem@waterw.com CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: HELP!!! (As Usual!!) References: <199911191400.JAA21176@water.vramp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: James... your wit is excellent.. :-) one thing more, win98 has a nice emergency startup diskette that puts a nice generic CD driver in place.. boots to DOS and you get the CD.. no problem.. :-) "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: > Bill, > > On 18 Nov 99, at 23:40, Bill Morrow wrote: > > > the thing all should know is that these diskette images are available on > > the IBM web site.. > > Yes, but I had gotten the "new" file from there and that was the one I was > having difficulty with, albeit due to operator error (e.g. using the wrong CD). > > > also, usually, there is a diskette image on the CD. > > But in the typical IBM "Catch 22", without a working boot disk, the CD isn't > recognized so you can't access the CD to get the diskette image to get the > CD recognized, etc. And there isn't a disk image on my 760XL recovery CD, > just the 3 large compressed image files. Which was the eventual giveaway > when I went looking for the diskette image on the CD on my desktop. > > Put CD in, open Explorer, look for diskette image....... hmmmmmmmm...... > not there! Check Explorer settings to show details and all files..... yep, they're > set. Take CD out and stare at it as though I'll be able to "see" the boot > diskette. Put it back in.........., search some more......., take CD out and look at > it again......... "Product Recovery CD ROM", yeah that's right........, "IBM > Thinkpad 760XL", yeah....... WAIT A MINUTE!!!! > > Doh!!! > > James -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Fri Nov 19 17:34:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA22722 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:34:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07382; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:32:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:31:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07201; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:31:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07183; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:31:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (198.144.192.5 -> shell.tsoft.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:31:14 -0500 Received: from NewPad ([198.144.205.90]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA06205 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:31:12 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael Geary" To: Subject: TP600: Windows 2000 ThinkPad Utility warning Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:32:15 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199911190121.UAA09547@water.vramp.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: As those of you who are running it know, Windows 2000 RC2 runs very well on a ThinkPad 600. Last month, IBM posted an update to the ThinkPad Utility for Windows 2000 RC2. There is a nasty bug in this version of ThinkPad Configuration program. It eats up kernel handles like they were going out of style. You can see this in action by running Task Manager and watching the Handles sount on the Performance page. Every three seconds, the count goes up by two. Eventually, your system will go berzerk because the kernel can't allocate any more handles. This happens when either the ThinkPad icon is visible in the system tray or when the huge main window is open. The workaround is simple: Right-click on the tray icon and select "Disable Tray Icon". You will still be able to run the configuration program from the Start menu when you need it. It will eat handles while the window is open, but they will be freed up when you close it. I reported this bug to IBM, so hopefully they will fix it soon. -Mike ThinkPads in the Open Directory: http://geary.com/thinkpad/ From cph Fri Nov 19 21:51:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA23660 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:51:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18311; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:50:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:48:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18138; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:48:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18124; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:48:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:48:41 -0500 Received: from mmax62.vramp.net (mmax62.vramp.net [198.138.8.125]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA24080; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:48:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911200248.VAA24080@water.vramp.net> From: "James H. E. Maugham" Organization: J.H.E. Maugham & Associates, Inc. To: Bill Morrow , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:47:58 -0500 Subject: Re: HELP!!! (As Usual!!) Reply-to: captjhem@waterw.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3835B230.86F9152B@icanect.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) List-Unsubscribe: On 19 Nov 99, at 15:25, Bill Morrow wrote: > your wit is excellent.. :-) And you sir, are an outstanding judge of men! :-) > one thing more, win98 has a nice emergency startup diskette that puts a > nice generic CD driver in place.. boots to DOS and you get the CD.. no > problem.. :-) Yep, have them for W95, W98, several generics and even one for W2K. But none of them will allow you to hot swap the CD drive, which, if you recall, was my original problem. No outboard holder available for the floppy drive. Even my "Failsafe" boot disk, which will run my PCMCIA CD drive, was of no help. AFAIK, when you're running the Recovery CD, you _must_ boot from the Recovery Disk in order to install the programs. The disk has the directory info for the recovery, IIRC. The files on the CD, while they can be seen by Winzip, are simply lumped into several enormous logs. Regards, James From cph Fri Nov 19 22:01:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA23827 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 22:01:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18810; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 22:00:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 22:00:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18716; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 22:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18700; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 22:00:39 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.38 -> imo-d06.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 22:00:39 -0500 Received: from Custm42435@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id o.0.5ceb1209 (5739) for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 22:00:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.5ceb1209.256768d2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 22:00:34 EST Subject: thinkpad 730T To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 List-Unsubscribe: i am having problems when i try to enable the 32 bit pcmcia card .. anyone heard of this problem? i have NO idea of how to fix this, but i need to either know what pcmcia port driver to use or whatever, because since it has a pcmcia hard drive, when it tries to enable the 32 bit support, it shuts off the hard drive in the middle of loading win95 and thus, locks up the computer.. what do i Do?? HELP!!!! Chris From cph Fri Nov 19 23:44:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA24083 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:44:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21686; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:32:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:31:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21557; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:31:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from web217.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21539; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:31:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from web217.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.117 -> web217.mail.yahoo.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:31:09 -0500 Message-ID: <19991120043108.1415.rocketmail@web217.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.77.88.2] by web217.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:31:08 PST Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:31:08 -0800 (PST) From: Pencetera Reply-To: pencetera@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Upgrade your 75X/760! To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Mark, I'm not sure what primal urge you are satisfying by making this all public but the jist of it is that I answered a post by you in which you stated that you were interested in trades. I told you what I had and asked what you might offer. You sent back an uncalled for smart aleck response without even bothering to find out if what you _thought_ was indeed correct. It is grossly poor netiquette to post private e-mail in a public forum such as this one, regardless of it's content. You are of the lowest character and untrustworthy, you make half baked assumptions then take people to task for them, then get all bent out of shape when someone calls you for your rude behavior. I'll apologize once more to the list for something that I never intended to go to the list and, more importantly, something *I* didn't send to the list. If this kind of thing bothers you, try being polite and businesslike when dealing with people... you'll be surprised at how people respond to that. I'm not vicious (note the correct spelling) to anyone who does not merit such a response. If you had simply stated that you were not interested in what I had that would have been sufficient, the condescending response to a request that wasn't made was not. I have said all I'm going to say on this matter, you were wrong with your initial response, you are wrong to make it public, and you are apparently not very bright if you cannot see why I was irritated in the first place. --- Bruce Markowitz wrote: > And what makes you think it is OK to use that kind > of language in a > private setting? I told you "no, you gotta be > kidding", you sent back a > tirade of hate mail. What on earth justifies that? I > posted to to show > everyone just how vicisous you are. > ===== http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From cph Fri Nov 19 23:53:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA24117 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:53:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22122; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:42:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:41:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22031; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:41:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22014; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:41:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:41:46 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.13.140]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991120044137.VKBR11314@compaq>; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 04:41:37 +0000 Message-ID: <38365086.2C27@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:40:54 -0800 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pencetera@yahoo.com CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Upgrade your 75X/760! References: <19991120043108.1415.rocketmail@web217.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I never ever said anything about taking trades. I posted prices. You were offended by my rejection of your (sily) offer. You sent hate mail. Vile, obscene hate mail. There is no excuse for that. Pencetera wrote: > > Mark, > > I'm not sure what primal urge you are satisfying by > making this all public but the jist of it is that I > answered a post by you in which you stated that you > were interested in trades. I told you what I had and > asked what you might offer. You sent back an uncalled > for smart aleck response without even bothering to > find out if what you _thought_ was indeed correct. > > It is grossly poor netiquette to post private e-mail > in a public forum such as this one, regardless of it's > content. You are of the lowest character and > untrustworthy, you make half baked assumptions then > take people to task for them, then get all bent out of > shape when someone calls you for your rude behavior. > > I'll apologize once more to the list for something > that I never intended to go to the list and, more > importantly, something *I* didn't send to the list. If > this kind of thing bothers you, try being polite and > businesslike when dealing with people... you'll be > surprised at how people respond to that. > > I'm not vicious (note the correct spelling) to anyone > who does not merit such a response. If you had simply > stated that you were not interested in what I had that > would have been sufficient, the condescending response > to a request that wasn't made was not. I have said all > I'm going to say on this matter, you were wrong with > your initial response, you are wrong to make it > public, and you are apparently not very bright if you > cannot see why I was irritated in the first place. > > --- Bruce Markowitz > wrote: > > And what makes you think it is OK to use that kind > > of language in a > > private setting? I told you "no, you gotta be > > kidding", you sent back a > > tirade of hate mail. What on earth justifies that? I > > posted to to show > > everyone just how vicisous you are. > > > > ===== > http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From cph Sat Nov 20 14:00:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA26091 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:00:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26587; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 13:58:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Nov 1999 13:57:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26490; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 13:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26477; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 13:57:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (198.144.192.5 -> shell.tsoft.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 20 Nov 1999 13:57:44 -0500 Received: from NewPad ([198.144.205.90]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA29142; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 10:57:35 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael Geary" To: , Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: Upgrade your 75X/760!] - another great list member! Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 10:58:41 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 In-Reply-To: <382E22D8.129E@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> List-Unsubscribe: > I thought you would all enjoy seeing this after I turned down his offer > of a 755CD with a cracked screen and bad video card in exchange for a > 760XL with a warranty. Real class Bruce: The guy made a perfectly reasonable, polite inquiry. (He simply asked if his items had any trade-in value--quite different from what you describe above.) You gave him an informative but brusque reply. He apologized for annoying you. You replied very rudely. He snapped. Old saying: It takes two to tango. Then, you posted a private email to a public list without the author's permission. No, I can't say I enjoyed seeing this. I'm not enjoying writing this reply, either, but it seems like it needs to be said. I only hope it will do some good. -Mike From cph Sat Nov 20 14:29:37 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA26168 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:29:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27736; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:27:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:27:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27648; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:27:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27635; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:27:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.40 -> mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:27:35 -0500 Received: from glensp3 ([12.79.0.72]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991120192733.IWWW795@glensp3> for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 19:27:33 +0000 Message-ID: <002c01bf338d$4e27cde0$48004f0c@glensp3> From: "Glen K" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:27:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe remove From cph Sat Nov 20 15:45:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA26405 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 15:45:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00237; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 15:43:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Nov 1999 15:43:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00136; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 15:43:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00120; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 15:43:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.dwave.net (207.0.68.7 -> home.dwave.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 20 Nov 1999 15:43:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.9.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id OAA24406 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:45:17 -0600 Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:45:17 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad 730T In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > From: Custm42435@aol.com > Subject: thinkpad 730T > i am having problems when i try to enable the 32 bit pcmcia card .. > anyone heard of this problem? i have NO idea of how to fix this, but i > need to either know what pcmcia port driver to use or whatever, because > since it has a pcmcia hard drive, when it tries to enable the 32 bit > support, it shuts off the hard drive in the middle of loading win95 and > thus, locks up the computer.. what do i Do?? HELP!!!! Chris IIRC, PCMCIA is a 16-bit bus, so it cannot support 32-bit operations. IIR incorrectly, then you'll need documentation about the drive. Hopefully, you can get it from the mfr's web site. I have looked for PCMCIA hard drive/ThinkPad information in the past, and it is scarce indeed. Let us know what you find. Chris Schumann "Wait a minute, Joe. If what you're saying is true, then I still don't care." - Dave Nelson, News Radio From cph Sat Nov 20 18:16:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA26941 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:16:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05314; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:16:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:15:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05218; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:15:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05198; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:15:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:15:01 -0500 Received: from wumpus.plexsys.com (adsl-151-198-21-15.bellatlantic.net [151.198.21.15]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA12507 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:20:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael D. Scheer" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: word 97 hang on tp600 Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:14:56 -0500 Organization: Plexus Systems Inc. Reply-To: mdash@plexsys.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.6/32.525 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id SAA26942 I just posted this to IBM support. Anyone else have this problem? TIA. --Mike Scheer >Whenever I try to click to select a font from the Word 97 toolbar, the program locks-up. >Other operations (e.g., selecting a different point size) do not show this behavior. > No other applications are running. > >I have reinstalled Office 97, and the problem persists. The same software configuration >(Office 97 + SR1 and SR2) is running on two other machines (not thinkpads) without this problem. > >Hardware: TP600 2645-51U, 128 MB of memory, no recent changes. > >System software: NT 4 WS, SP3, no recent changes other than just >now installing the latest BIOS and trackpoint driver to try to fix this problem. > > > > From cph Sat Nov 20 19:04:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA27086 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 19:04:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06674; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 19:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Nov 1999 19:02:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06595; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 19:02:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06582; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 19:02:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.39 -> mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 20 Nov 1999 19:02:49 -0500 Received: from jerrycud ([12.79.10.14]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991121000244.LKEM2693@jerrycud> for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:02:44 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991120190237.008fd950@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jerryray@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 19:02:37 +0000 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: JC Subject: beware new bios for 770ed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I have had a couple of days of misery caused by the new bios for the 770ed. I suggest you use this with caution. It caused my serial port to fail, this problem seems to be caused from the configuration utility damaging registry entries. I have a thread running on the IBM forum,"new bios beeps too much" IBM should pull this from the website until it's fixed.. Jerry Cudmore From cph Sat Nov 20 23:45:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA28179 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 23:45:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14454; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 23:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 20 Nov 1999 23:42:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14347; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 23:42:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14334; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 23:42:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 20 Nov 1999 23:42:11 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax62.vramp.net [198.138.8.125]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA18008; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 23:42:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <022501bf33da$bab78660$67088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: Cc: References: Subject: Riddle Me This, Thinkpadman! Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 23:41:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: The culprit, my wife's Thinkpad 600 (2645 51U, PII 266MHz (512KB) 96MB RAM 4GB 13.3 XGA TFT 24X) running NT4 SP5. The victims, three (yes 3!) NEC Multisync XE15 monitors put to sleep in the prime of their lives, all within two years. The victims were all found asleep (power saver mode with amber power indicator light) and unresponsive to external stimuli. No amount of mouse clicking/movement, key pushing, re-booting, power off and on, connecting to another Thinkpad, would cause them to come alive. I find this behavior bizarre primarily because I have had such good performance and reliability from all of my other installed NECs. I'm using a 3YO XE17 myself right now that has never given me any trouble and another XE17 on my docking station. My son and both daughters are using XE15s (one daughter with a 760XL) for several years now without any problems. I have many clients who have installed NECs on my suggestion and all of whom are happy (so far). The only thing that is "different" about my wife's machine is that she's the only one running NT4 on her 600. I'm running W2K/W98 on my 600 and desktop, daughter with 760XL also running NT4, but almost all others using laptops are running W98. Has anyone seen similar behavior on a Thinkpad running NT4? I.e. monitor homicide on a grand scale? Is this a flaw in power management in NT, or is my wife just abysmally unlucky? Regards, James From cph Sun Nov 21 00:11:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA28264 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:11:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15317; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:09:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:09:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15244; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:09:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15231; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:09:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (24.137.12.3) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:09:18 -0500 Received: from cel400 (24.137.23.13) by orion.planetcable.net (Worldmail 1.3.167) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; 21 Nov 1999 00:06:31 -0500 Message-ID: <00aa01bf33df$8560cb20$020aa8c0@TECHGAP.NEt> From: "Slip" To: Subject: subscribe Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:15:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A7_01BF33B5.919C4CE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01BF33B5.919C4CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable subscribe jlk@innernet.net ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01BF33B5.919C4CE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01BF33B5.919C4CE0-- From cph Sun Nov 21 00:23:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA28289 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:23:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17035; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:21:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:21:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16961; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot022.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16948; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot022.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.122 -> pilot022.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:21:44 -0500 Received: from andres (pm454-02.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.204]) by pilot022.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA39120 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:21:40 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991121001944.00a10030@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:19:44 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Riddle Me This, Thinkpadman! In-Reply-To: <022501bf33da$bab78660$67088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Ah, after the second monitor had gone, I would have been EXTREMELY suspicious of the ThinkPad. Rather than suspecting NT, I would cast a wary eye towards the external vga port. I'll bet you have something wrong there, such that the signal which indicates "sleep" is messing up somehow. This is rare, but I can think of a Number Nine VGA card which took out two monitors on a friends system, so while rare I know it's possible. STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 11:41 PM 11/20/1999 -0500, you wrote: >The culprit, my wife's Thinkpad 600 (2645 51U, PII 266MHz (512KB) 96MB RAM >4GB 13.3 XGA TFT 24X) running NT4 SP5. > >The victims, three (yes 3!) NEC Multisync XE15 monitors put to sleep in the >prime of their lives, all within two years. > >The victims were all found asleep (power saver mode with amber power >indicator light) and unresponsive to external stimuli. No amount of mouse >clicking/movement, key pushing, re-booting, power off and on, connecting to >another Thinkpad, would cause them to come alive. > >I find this behavior bizarre primarily because I have had such good >performance and reliability from all of my other installed NECs. I'm using a >3YO XE17 myself right now that has never given me any trouble and another >XE17 on my docking station. My son and both daughters are using XE15s (one >daughter with a 760XL) for several years now without any problems. I have >many clients who have installed NECs on my suggestion and all of whom are >happy (so far). > >The only thing that is "different" about my wife's machine is that she's the >only one running NT4 on her 600. I'm running W2K/W98 on my 600 and desktop, >daughter with 760XL also running NT4, but almost all others using laptops >are running W98. > >Has anyone seen similar behavior on a Thinkpad running NT4? I.e. monitor >homicide on a grand scale? > >Is this a flaw in power management in NT, or is my wife just abysmally >unlucky? > >Regards, > >James > > > From cph Sun Nov 21 02:37:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA28531 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 02:37:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20481; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 02:36:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 02:34:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20335; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 02:34:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20322; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 02:34:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 02:34:19 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA11571; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 21:34:07 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <002301bf33f2$ca9dbaa0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "James H. E. Maugham" , Cc: References: <022501bf33da$bab78660$67088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> Subject: Re: Riddle Me This, Thinkpadman! Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 21:34:02 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: The one time I tried plugging my NEC 4Fge into a TP560 the former flashed and made nasty electro-smells, so I disconnected immediately. My guess is that the pinout from the NEC includes some signals on the optional pins on the VGA connector that are incompatible with those on the TP. NEC has very nice pinout diagrams available on their website - even for very obsolete monitors - bit I haven't found a comparable diagram for the Thinkpad with which to compare it. - David R. ----- Original Message ----- From: James H. E. Maugham To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 6:41 PM Subject: Riddle Me This, Thinkpadman! > The culprit, my wife's Thinkpad 600 (2645 51U, PII 266MHz (512KB) 96MB RAM > 4GB 13.3 XGA TFT 24X) running NT4 SP5. > > The victims, three (yes 3!) NEC Multisync XE15 monitors put to sleep in the > prime of their lives, all within two years. > > The victims were all found asleep (power saver mode with amber power > indicator light) and unresponsive to external stimuli. No amount of mouse > clicking/movement, key pushing, re-booting, power off and on, connecting to > another Thinkpad, would cause them to come alive. > > I find this behavior bizarre primarily because I have had such good > performance and reliability from all of my other installed NECs. I'm using a > 3YO XE17 myself right now that has never given me any trouble and another > XE17 on my docking station. My son and both daughters are using XE15s (one > daughter with a 760XL) for several years now without any problems. I have > many clients who have installed NECs on my suggestion and all of whom are > happy (so far). > > The only thing that is "different" about my wife's machine is that she's the > only one running NT4 on her 600. I'm running W2K/W98 on my 600 and desktop, > daughter with 760XL also running NT4, but almost all others using laptops > are running W98. > > Has anyone seen similar behavior on a Thinkpad running NT4? I.e. monitor > homicide on a grand scale? > > Is this a flaw in power management in NT, or is my wife just abysmally > unlucky? > > Regards, > > James > > From cph Sun Nov 21 11:45:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA06824 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:45:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14806; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:44:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:44:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14711; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:44:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14698; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:44:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (24.137.12.3) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:44:28 -0500 Received: from cel400 (24.137.23.13) by orion.planetcable.net (Worldmail 1.3.167) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; 21 Nov 1999 11:41:42 -0500 Message-ID: <004f01bf3440$a6c14ae0$020aa8c0@TECHGAP.NEt> From: "Slip" To: Subject: Reseating the KB on a 760ED... Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:51:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004C_01BF3416.BD436A20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01BF3416.BD436A20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there, Out of the blue my TP760ED started giving me 173 and 163 error codes = at boot. At first it would then go into BIOS time/date setup. I changed = the date to reflect the current, and rebooted. It consistently did the = same thing-putting me into bios, rebooting, and the error codes. So I = turned the machine off for a good hour or so(it was on for about two = days straight before) and then tried again. However this time, after the = memory check and those error codes, it just displayed a screen-full of = complete garbage. Is this the symptom of the KB ribon cable? I already = setup an EZ-Serve arrangement so I don't want to bother trying to fix = it(exspecially if I don't know if it's only the ribon cable, or possibly = the system board and/or video)...What are your opinions? Oh and one last thing-an odd question to say the least, but do those = Grip-It strips void the warranty? Thanks. -Jamie ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01BF3416.BD436A20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi there,
    Out of the blue my TP760ED = started giving=20 me 173 and 163 error codes at boot. At first it would then go into BIOS=20 time/date setup. I changed the date to reflect the current, and = rebooted. It=20 consistently did the same thing-putting me into bios, rebooting, and the = error=20 codes. So I turned the machine off for a good hour or so(it was on for = about two=20 days straight before) and then tried again. However this time, after the = memory=20 check and those error codes, it just displayed a screen-full of complete = garbage. Is this the symptom of the KB ribon cable? I already setup an = EZ-Serve=20 arrangement so I don't want to bother trying to fix it(exspecially if I = don't=20 know if it's only the ribon cable, or possibly the system board and/or=20 video)...What are your opinions?
 
Oh and one last thing-an odd question to say the = least, but do=20 those Grip-It strips void the warranty?
 
Thanks.
-Jamie
------=_NextPart_000_004C_01BF3416.BD436A20-- From cph Sun Nov 21 11:47:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA06829 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:47:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15001; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:46:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:46:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14928; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:46:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14915; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:46:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (24.137.12.3) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:46:13 -0500 Received: from cel400 (24.137.23.13) by orion.planetcable.net (Worldmail 1.3.167) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; 21 Nov 1999 11:43:27 -0500 Message-ID: <006d01bf3440$e5d731e0$020aa8c0@TECHGAP.NEt> From: "Slip" To: Subject: Reseating the KB on a 760ED... Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:53:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: (sorry about the HTML in the previous post) Hi there, Out of the blue my TP760ED started giving me 173 and 163 error codes at boot. At first it would then go into BIOS time/date setup. I changed the date to reflect the current, and rebooted. It consistently did the same thing-putting me into bios, rebooting, and the error codes. So I turned the machine off for a good hour or so(it was on for about two days straight before) and then tried again. However this time, after the memory check and those error codes, it just displayed a screen-full of complete garbage. Is this the symptom of the KB ribon cable? I already setup an EZ-Serve arrangement so I don't want to bother trying to fix it(exspecially if I don't know if it's only the ribon cable, or possibly the system board and/or video)...What are your opinions? Oh and one last thing-an odd question to say the least, but do those Grip-It strips void the warranty? Thanks. -Jamie From cph Sun Nov 21 11:57:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA06857 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:57:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15489; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:56:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:56:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15414; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:56:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15401; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:56:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.39 -> mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:56:11 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.53.15]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991121165605.TYXQ2693@compaq>; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:56:05 +0000 Message-ID: <38384E2B.34E8@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:55:23 -0800 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Slip CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Reseating the KB on a 760ED... References: <006d01bf3440$e5d731e0$020aa8c0@TECHGAP.NEt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I recently send a 760XL into EZSERVE for a bad external floppy connector. Whe it got back it had a dent in the LCD back cover! I had not noticed it before, but assuming that I sent it in that way, they did not make any noises about fixing it. That may answer your grip strip question. Slip wrote: > > (sorry about the HTML in the previous post) > Hi there, > Out of the blue my TP760ED started giving me 173 and 163 error codes at > boot. At first it would then go into BIOS time/date setup. I changed the > date to reflect the current, and rebooted. It consistently did the same > thing-putting me into bios, rebooting, and the error codes. So I turned the > machine off for a good hour or so(it was on for about two days straight > before) and then tried again. However this time, after the memory check and > those error codes, it just displayed a screen-full of complete garbage. Is > this the symptom of the KB ribon cable? I already setup an EZ-Serve > arrangement so I don't want to bother trying to fix it(exspecially if I > don't know if it's only the ribon cable, or possibly the system board and/or > video)...What are your opinions? > > Oh and one last thing-an odd question to say the least, but do those Grip-It > strips void the warranty? > > Thanks. > -Jamie From cph Sun Nov 21 14:41:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA07228 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:41:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21063; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:39:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:38:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20964; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20947; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:38:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:38:40 -0500 Received: from TP600 (pool-209-138-37-195.irvn.grid.net [209.138.37.195]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA17217 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:38:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <004101bf3458$298ac570$c3258ad1@TP600> Reply-To: "James" From: "James" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Display for TP600s interchangable? Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:39:41 -0800 Organization: US EPA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01BF3415.199E8540" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01BF3415.199E8540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know if the TP600 13"tft can be used on TP600 which = originally came with 13 HPA? And if possible, how difficult it is to replace it? Thanks ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01BF3415.199E8540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone know if the TP600 13"tft = can be used on=20 TP600 which originally came with 13 HPA?
 
And if possible, how difficult it is to = replace=20 it?
 
Thanks
------=_NextPart_000_003E_01BF3415.199E8540-- From cph Sun Nov 21 14:55:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA07241 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:55:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21950; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:54:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:53:56 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21874; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:53:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:53:55 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id OAA09051 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from web220.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00780; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:05:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from web220.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.120 -> web220.mail.yahoo.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:05:39 -0500 Message-ID: <19991119210533.10303.rocketmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.136.144.33] by web220.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:05:33 PST Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:05:33 -0800 (PST) From: Pencetera Reply-To: pencetera@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Upgrade your 75X/760!] - another great list member! To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: I agree wholeheartedly with Richard on this one. This message was not sent, by me, to the list as the list is public. Even though the individual of questionable character that it was sent to chose to make private e-mail public, I'll apologize anyway. Incidentally, Richard understood what Bruce seems unable to grasp... no offer or request of an even trade was made. Once again I apologize for the language in the private e-mail that was never meant for public consumption. --- Bruce Markowitz wrote: > I thought you would all enjoy seeing this after I > turned down his offer > of a 755CD with a cracked screen and bad video card > in exchange for a > 760XL with a warranty. Real class > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 15:42:02 -0800 (PST) > From: Pencetera > Reply-to: pencetera@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: Upgrade your 75X/760! > To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net > > Bite me asshole. I wasn't suggesting an even trade. > You are pretty fucking stupid. I simply wanted to > see > if you would be willing to give a partial credit. > You > are an absolutely clueless business person. I have > the > money in hand but wouldn't spend a damn dime with > you. > > > You should try acting like you are in business to > make > money. Jerk. > > --- Bruce Markowitz > wrote: > > Well, you did! > > That's one of the silliest requests I ever got. > You > > send me junk, I send > > you a working, warrantied machien! > > > > Pencetera wrote: > > > > > > Pardon me, didn't mean to annoy you. > > > > > > --- Bruce Markowitz > > > wrote: > > > > At these prices I am not interested in stuff > > with > > > > broken screens. These > > > > will bring $400 on ebay. > > > > You can use your floppy drive, battery (from > the > > > > 760L) ac adaptor, and > > > > possibly your memory DIMM. THe hard drive form > > the > > > > 760 will work, as > > > > will the HDD from the 755CD, as long as you > > remove > > > > it from the caddy and > > > > just use it with the plug. > > > > Better than that I can't (and won't ) do. > > > > BTW, what the heck do you think a 755CD with a > > > > crakced screen is > > > > worth???? And the system board is bad (video > is > > on > > > > there). You have > > > > absolutely nothing to trade, except for the > > above > > > > mentioned parts. > > > > > > > > Pencetera wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bruce, > > > > > > > > > > I'd be interested in one of those 760XL > > machines. > > > > I > > > > > have a 755CD parts machine, cracked display > > and > > > > needs > > > > > a either a new video card or a repair, one > of > > the > > > > > connectors came off. I'll offer that and a > > 760L > > > > that > > > > > needs a new mainboard and the display works > > but > > > > has a > > > > > loose connection somewhere, it comes up all > > white > > > > at > > > > > times, otherwise in near new condition. > > > > > > > > > > It comes with a memory expansion board and > one > > 8Mb > > > > > dimm. What kind of trade in on these two > > towards a > > > > > 760XL? Let me know, I also have a good 750 > > NiMH > > > > > battery as well. Let me know if you are > > interested > > > > in > > > > > any of these and we'll go from there. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Mike B. > > > > > > > > > > --- Bruce Markowitz > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > I have a few IBM 760 ThinkPads available > > > > > > Group one is 760XL P166MMX > > > > > > These are in good shape and all have > > remaining > > > > > > warranty into year 2000 > > > > > > These take all 760 accs and most 75X accs > > > > > > These are bare shells, no hard drive, no > > > > battery, no > > > > > > AC adaptor, no > > > > > > CD-ROM. They all have 16MB memory, but I > can > > > > supply > > > > > > add's memory on > > > > > > request. Screens are good. The "bezel" > > around > > > > the > > > > > > floppy drive is not > > > > > > included. Asking $300 each. I will have > some > > > > > > complete units available, > > > > > > price much higher! > > > > > > Group 2 is IBM 760EL. Same condition and > > specs > > > > as > > > > > > above. Asking $275.00 > > > > > > each. Only have a few > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Bill M: > > > > > > If you have some parts, we can make a > deal! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For > Low > > > > Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Bid and sell for free at > > http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low > > Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Bid and sell for free at > http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > ===== > http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low Cost, > High Quality Fountain Pens > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > ===== http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From cph Sun Nov 21 14:55:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA07245 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:55:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22055; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:54:30 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21984; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:54:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:54:29 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id OAA09091 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:45:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14310; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.42 -> mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:04:45 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.18.57]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991120010408.WQSJ27893@compaq>; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 01:04:08 +0000 Message-ID: <38361D8D.6FCA@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:03:25 -0800 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rchalk@baf-mti.com CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Upgrade your 75X/760! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Richard, we have done some business before, and I have found you to be a good an honorable trader. Nothing justifies the hate mail that was sent to me by this person, and I posted it to the list for all to see in case he attempts to do business with a member in the future. Sure, I told him "no, you gotta be kidding". So what, who would need a 755CD with a broken screen AND a bad motherboard. I don't have a boat, so I don't need an anchor! This did not, and could not, justify the hate mail I received. Yes, I told him "no" in stern language, but I did not send him foul, nasty, vile language like he sent to me. Richard Chalk wrote: > > Ordinarily, I wouldn't waste the time, or the bandwidth to respond to > something like this, but now I am annoyed at both of you! > > First of all, I should think that on this list, you could all be > professional enough to communicate without using gutter language, which I > can find in profusion in many places on the internet. > > Second, you should read the content of the message and be sure you > understand the question before replying - the man simply asked if the parts > he had were worth anything as trade-in. > > Third, I see no value in wasting everyone's time with the rantings of a > private conversation between the two of you. > > Fourth, don't even bother with irritated postings if you can't have the > common decency to use your own name. > > Richard > > ---Original Message----- > From: Pencetera [mailto:pencetera@yahoo.com] > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 6:42 PM > To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net > Subject: Re: Upgrade your 75X/760! > > Bite me asshole. I wasn't suggesting an even trade. > You are pretty fucking stupid. I simply wanted to see > if you would be willing to give a partial credit. You > are an absolutely clueless business person. I have the > money in hand but wouldn't spend a damn dime with you. > > You should try acting like you are in business to make > money. Jerk. > > --- Bruce Markowitz > wrote: > > Well, you did! > > That's one of the silliest requests I ever got. You > > send me junk, I send > > you a working, warrantied machien! > > > > Pencetera wrote: > > > > > > Pardon me, didn't mean to annoy you. > > > > > > --- Bruce Markowitz > > > wrote: > > > > At these prices I am not interested in stuff > > with > > > > broken screens. These > > > > will bring $400 on ebay. > > > > You can use your floppy drive, battery (from the > > > > 760L) ac adaptor, and > > > > possibly your memory DIMM. THe hard drive form > > the > > > > 760 will work, as > > > > will the HDD from the 755CD, as long as you > > remove > > > > it from the caddy and > > > > just use it with the plug. > > > > Better than that I can't (and won't ) do. > > > > BTW, what the heck do you think a 755CD with a > > > > crakced screen is > > > > worth???? And the system board is bad (video is > > on > > > > there). You have > > > > absolutely nothing to trade, except for the > > above > > > > mentioned parts. > > > > > > > > Pencetera wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bruce, > > > > > > > > > > I'd be interested in one of those 760XL > > machines. > > > > I > > > > > have a 755CD parts machine, cracked display > > and > > > > needs > > > > > a either a new video card or a repair, one of > > the > > > > > connectors came off. I'll offer that and a > > 760L > > > > that > > > > > needs a new mainboard and the display works > > but > > > > has a > > > > > loose connection somewhere, it comes up all > > white > > > > at > > > > > times, otherwise in near new condition. > > > > > > > > > > It comes with a memory expansion board and one > > 8Mb > > > > > dimm. What kind of trade in on these two > > towards a > > > > > 760XL? Let me know, I also have a good 750 > > NiMH > > > > > battery as well. Let me know if you are > > interested > > > > in > > > > > any of these and we'll go from there. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Mike B. > > > > > > > > > > --- Bruce Markowitz > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > I have a few IBM 760 ThinkPads available > > > > > > Group one is 760XL P166MMX > > > > > > These are in good shape and all have > > remaining > > > > > > warranty into year 2000 > > > > > > These take all 760 accs and most 75X accs > > > > > > These are bare shells, no hard drive, no > > > > battery, no > > > > > > AC adaptor, no > > > > > > CD-ROM. They all have 16MB memory, but I can > > > > supply > > > > > > add's memory on > > > > > > request. Screens are good. The "bezel" > > around > > > > the > > > > > > floppy drive is not > > > > > > included. Asking $300 each. I will have some > > > > > > complete units available, > > > > > > price much higher! > > > > > > Group 2 is IBM 760EL. Same condition and > > specs > > > > as > > > > > > above. Asking $275.00 > > > > > > each. Only have a few > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Bill M: > > > > > > If you have some parts, we can make a deal! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low > > > > Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Bid and sell for free at > > http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low > > Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > ===== > http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low Cost, High Quality Fountain > Pens > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From cph Sun Nov 21 14:55:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA07249 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:55:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22166; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:55:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:54:49 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22082; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:54:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:54:49 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id OAA09108 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:45:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14049; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:00:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.42 -> mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:00:49 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.18.57]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991120010045.WPFH27893@compaq>; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 01:00:45 +0000 Message-ID: <38361CC3.3FB8@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:00:03 -0800 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pencetera@yahoo.com CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Upgrade your 75X/760! References: <19991119205159.17999.rocketmail@web215.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: And what makes you think it is OK to use that kind of language in a private setting? I told you "no, you gotta be kidding", you sent back a tirade of hate mail. What on earth justifies that? I posted to to show everyone just how vicisous you are. Pencetera wrote: > > Actually I agree with you Richard, I would never use > that kind of language in a public setting. That was > private e-mail sent to the recipient only, not to the > list. So, aside from being a poor business person and > rude, he has not respect for privacy. > > All in all a class individual, I would not trust my > money with him. My apologies to the list for something > that was never addressed nor sent, by me, to the list. > > --- Richard Chalk wrote: > > Ordinarily, I wouldn't waste the time, or the > > bandwidth to respond to > > something like this, but now I am annoyed at both of > > you! > > > > First of all, I should think that on this list, you > > could all be > > professional enough to communicate without using > > gutter language, which I > > can find in profusion in many places on the > > internet. > > > > Second, you should read the content of the message > > and be sure you > > understand the question before replying - the man > > simply asked if the parts > > he had were worth anything as trade-in. > > > > Third, I see no value in wasting everyone's time > > with the rantings of a > > private conversation between the two of you. > > > > Fourth, don't even bother with irritated postings if > > you can't have the > > common decency to use your own name. > > > > Richard > > > > > > ---Original Message----- > > From: Pencetera [mailto:pencetera@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 6:42 PM > > To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net > > Subject: Re: Upgrade your 75X/760! > > > > Bite me asshole. I wasn't suggesting an even trade. > > You are pretty fucking stupid. I simply wanted to > > see > > if you would be willing to give a partial credit. > > You > > are an absolutely clueless business person. I have > > the > > money in hand but wouldn't spend a damn dime with > > you. > > > > > > You should try acting like you are in business to > > make > > money. Jerk. > > > > --- Bruce Markowitz > > wrote: > > > Well, you did! > > > That's one of the silliest requests I ever got. > > You > > > send me junk, I send > > > you a working, warrantied machien! > > > > > > Pencetera wrote: > > > > > > > > Pardon me, didn't mean to annoy you. > > > > > > > > --- Bruce Markowitz > > > > wrote: > > > > > At these prices I am not interested in stuff > > > with > > > > > broken screens. These > > > > > will bring $400 on ebay. > > > > > You can use your floppy drive, battery (from > > the > > > > > 760L) ac adaptor, and > > > > > possibly your memory DIMM. THe hard drive form > > > the > > > > > 760 will work, as > > > > > will the HDD from the 755CD, as long as you > > > remove > > > > > it from the caddy and > > > > > just use it with the plug. > > > > > Better than that I can't (and won't ) do. > > > > > BTW, what the heck do you think a 755CD with a > > > > > crakced screen is > > > > > worth???? And the system board is bad (video > > is > > > on > > > > > there). You have > > > > > absolutely nothing to trade, except for the > > > above > > > > > mentioned parts. > > > > > > > > > > Pencetera wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bruce, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd be interested in one of those 760XL > > > machines. > > > > > I > > > > > > have a 755CD parts machine, cracked display > > > and > > > > > needs > > > > > > a either a new video card or a repair, one > > of > > > the > > > > > > connectors came off. I'll offer that and a > > > 760L > > > > > that > > > > > > needs a new mainboard and the display works > > > but > > > > > has a > > > > > > loose connection somewhere, it comes up all > > > white > > > > > at > > > > > > times, otherwise in near new condition. > > > > > > > > > > > > It comes with a memory expansion board and > > one > > > 8Mb > > > > > > dimm. What kind of trade in on these two > > > towards a > > > > > > 760XL? Let me know, I also have a good 750 > > > NiMH > > > > > > battery as well. Let me know if you are > > > interested > > > > > in > > > > > > any of these and we'll go from there. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Mike B. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Bruce Markowitz > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I have a few IBM 760 ThinkPads available > > > > > > > Group one is 760XL P166MMX > > > > > > > These are in good shape and all have > > > remaining > > > > > > > warranty into year 2000 > > > > > > > These take all 760 accs and most 75X accs > > > > > > > These are bare shells, no hard drive, no > > > > > battery, no > > > > > > > AC adaptor, no > > > > > > > CD-ROM. They all have 16MB memory, but I > > can > > > > > supply > > > > > > > add's memory on > > > > > > > request. Screens are good. The "bezel" > > > around > > > > > the > > > > > > > floppy drive is not > > > > > > > included. Asking $300 each. I will have > > some > > > > > > > complete units available, > > > > > > > price much higher! > > > > > > > Group 2 is IBM 760EL. Same condition and > > > specs > > > > > as > > > > > > > above. Asking $275.00 > > > > > > > each. Only have a few > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > Bill M: > > > > > > > If you have some parts, we can make a > > deal! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For > > Low > > > > > Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > Bid and sell for free at > > > http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low > > > Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Bid and sell for free at > > http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > ===== > > http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low Cost, > > High Quality Fountain > > Pens > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > > ===== > http://www.pencetera.com - Your Source For Low Cost, High Quality Fountain Pens > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From cph Sun Nov 21 15:06:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA07282 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:06:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22764; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:05:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:05:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22686; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:05:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22670; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:05:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.38 -> finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:05:30 -0500 Received: from fever0.demon.co.uk ([212.229.91.61]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11pdEg-000Gxe-0A for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:05:23 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:09:55 +0000 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Nicolas Fitzgerald Subject: Re: Denis' ThinkPad :-) References: <199911172335.1832130.7@mail.stelarcom.de> In-Reply-To: <199911172335.1832130.7@mail.stelarcom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S List-Unsubscribe: In article <199911172335.1832130.7@mail.stelarcom.de>, Alexander Wagner writes >Hi all! > >Just to mention it here: If someone needs a ThinkPad and reads something like >"For sale" and "FORM: Denis Hall " I'd really advise you to >look if he has what you're looking for and and in case order immediatly! > >Today I got one of his 760's he announced some weeks ago. Well delivery of >money form germany and of hardware to germany takes time, it's not Denis who >needed that long :) And I must stress what other people told here on the list >some weeks ago. The machine arrived in perfect condition, if I wouldn't know >that it's right out of IBM's production I'd guess it's directly from there. >Was a really good deal! > >-- Alexander, Please, can you tell me if you had to pay any import tax/ duty, for your TP? If so, how much was it? I am waiting for some hardware to arrive from the states (a Glint TX video card, slightly dated, I know... but the cheapest vid. card with a Geometry Co-processor of similar spec here in the UK is around 700 UKP + VAT!!!) This card cost me $69 + $40 for UPS (Express Delivery) Hoping to get it on Mon.22nd, and I only ordered it on Thu.18th.. According to the UPS `tracking' the parcel, has gone through customs (West Midlands area), and is in London (City area) now! .. so I was also curious if customs in the UK/EU charge what they think/look up the value is, or they calculate the percentage they charge you based on what you've actually paid? If the item was 2nd hand, or >from a `massive-discount' outlet, say. (I assume you have to pay the same in Germany as we do in the UK, for an item arriving from the States! Although, nothing surprises me, since I started comparing prices in the UK, to those in the rest of EU, esp. States. Nothing short of ROBBERY! ) If all goes well, I'm certainly not purchasing anything else (apart from bulky stuff, i.e. monitors, etc.) in the UK.. I'll be looking forward to a new (2nd hand?) TP, direct from the States.. ;) BTW, I was going to say, if you want something quick, UPS might be the easiest route... Regards -- Nicolas FitzGerald London, U.K. From cph Sun Nov 21 17:20:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA07843 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:20:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27359; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:19:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:18:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27283; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:18:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from csc.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27270; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:18:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from csc.com (20.1.10.27 -> explorer.csc.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:18:55 -0500 Received: from netscape.net by csc.com via smtpd with smtp id for ; Sun, 21 Nov 99 17:18 EST (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.9 built 21-apr-97) Message-ID: <38386F4F.894D5892@netscape.net> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:16:48 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "James H. E. Maugham" CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Riddle Me This, Thinkpadman! References: <022501bf33da$bab78660$67088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: No experience with ThinkPads and NEC monitors, but I've seen similar problems with a Compaq desktop at work. Try unplugging the monitor's power cord for 20 seconds and then plug it back in. That's what works for my Compaq to reset it. HTH, Rob "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: > The culprit, my wife's Thinkpad 600 (2645 51U, PII 266MHz (512KB) 96MB RAM > 4GB 13.3 XGA TFT 24X) running NT4 SP5. > > The victims, three (yes 3!) NEC Multisync XE15 monitors put to sleep in the > prime of their lives, all within two years. > > The victims were all found asleep (power saver mode with amber power > indicator light) and unresponsive to external stimuli. No amount of mouse > clicking/movement, key pushing, re-booting, power off and on, connecting to > another Thinkpad, would cause them to come alive. [snip] From cph Sun Nov 21 17:54:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA07911 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:54:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28572; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:52:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28497; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:52:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28480; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:52:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.39 -> mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:52:07 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.15.133]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991121225205.ZKCA2693@compaq>; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 22:52:05 +0000 Message-ID: <3838A199.462B@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:51:21 -0800 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Bell CC: "James H. E. Maugham" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Riddle Me This, Thinkpadman! References: <022501bf33da$bab78660$67088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <38386F4F.894D5892@netscape.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I wonder if the monitor could not handle the refresh rates, or if the 600 is putting out a bad refresh rate. Rob Bell wrote: > > No experience with ThinkPads and NEC monitors, but I've seen similar problems > with a Compaq desktop at work. Try unplugging the monitor's power cord for 20 > seconds and then plug it back in. That's what works for my Compaq to reset it. > > HTH, > Rob > > "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: > > > The culprit, my wife's Thinkpad 600 (2645 51U, PII 266MHz (512KB) 96MB RAM > > 4GB 13.3 XGA TFT 24X) running NT4 SP5. > > > > The victims, three (yes 3!) NEC Multisync XE15 monitors put to sleep in the > > prime of their lives, all within two years. > > > > The victims were all found asleep (power saver mode with amber power > > indicator light) and unresponsive to external stimuli. No amount of mouse > > clicking/movement, key pushing, re-booting, power off and on, connecting to > > another Thinkpad, would cause them to come alive. > > [snip] From cph Sun Nov 21 18:18:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA07993 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 18:18:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29356; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 18:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 18:16:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29277; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 18:16:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29264; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 18:16:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.12 -> harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 18:16:41 -0500 Received: from miles (ip207.eagle.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.160.207]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA25777 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:16:38 -0800 (PST) From: "David Newman" To: Subject: need a brick for old Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 18:16:32 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: I'm looking for a power transformer (the "brick") for an old Thinkpad 360cs. I believe this is the same transformer used for the TP700, TP720, and TP75X lines. Any ideas where I can buy one of these? Thanks in advance. David Newman From cph Sun Nov 21 19:29:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA08210 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:29:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01855; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:28:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:27:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01774; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:27:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01764; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:27:58 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10 -> imo20.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:27:58 -0500 Received: from RBilliex@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id o.0.3c35186f (3997) for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:27:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.3c35186f.2569e809@aol.com> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:27:53 EST Subject: Linux on 390E? To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 228 List-Unsubscribe: I want to install Red Hat Linux 6.0 on my 390E, but not on the internal hard-drive. I want to go through my PCMCIA Adaptec SCSI card to an external SCSI disk and boot from a floppy. I'm not able to see the scsi drive when doing Druid or FDISK during install. The SCSI card seems to be recognized after I use the PCMCIA support disk, but that's it. If I can't install this way, I would consider a NFS mount, but the install doesn't seem to see the network card (Linksys PCMCIA) card. ANyone have any luck with a similar install, either a 390E, or an external SCSI drive or a NFS mount install? I just don't want to use up any of my internal drive since I already have Win98 and Win NT on it. Thanks. From cph Sun Nov 21 20:10:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA08327 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:10:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03228; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:08:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:08:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03152; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:08:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03139; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:08:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:08:33 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax5.vramp.net [198.138.8.68]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA05796; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:08:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <044501bf3486$12c81df0$67088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: , "STeve Andre'" References: <3.0.6.32.19991121001944.00a10030@pilot.msu.edu> Subject: Re: Riddle Me This, Thinkpadman! Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:08:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: Steve, This was my first thought also, that there was a pinout error. But I've checked the pinouts for both the 600 and the monitor and they _should_ be fine. I'm beginning to wonder if this is specific to this one 600 and not a generic fault. I.e. there's a pin short or similar. We'll know soon enough if the error is repeatable across models as she's now using an XE17 (no, DEFINITELY not one of mine!). Regards, James ----- Original Message ----- From: "STeve Andre'" To: Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 12:19 AM Subject: Re: Riddle Me This, Thinkpadman! > Ah, after the second monitor had gone, I would have been EXTREMELY > suspicious of the ThinkPad. Rather than suspecting NT, I would cast > a wary eye towards the external vga port. > > I'll bet you have something wrong there, such that the signal which > indicates "sleep" is messing up somehow. This is rare, but I can think > of a Number Nine VGA card which took out two monitors on a friends > system, so while rare I know it's possible. From cph Sun Nov 21 20:12:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA08352 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:12:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03439; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:11:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03365; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:11:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03349; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:11:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:11:42 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax5.vramp.net [198.138.8.68]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA06362; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:11:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <045101bf3486$8815df20$67088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Rob Bell" Cc: References: <022501bf33da$bab78660$67088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <38386F4F.894D5892@netscape.net> Subject: Re: Riddle Me This, Thinkpadman! Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:11:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: Rob, Thanks for the tip, but the XE15s all got to sleep and stay that way. Plugging and unplugging, different TP, different desktop, they're dead Jim! Regards, James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Bell" To: "James H. E. Maugham" Cc: Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 5:16 PM Subject: Re: Riddle Me This, Thinkpadman! > No experience with ThinkPads and NEC monitors, but I've seen similar problems > with a Compaq desktop at work. Try unplugging the monitor's power cord for 20 > seconds and then plug it back in. That's what works for my Compaq to reset it. From cph Sun Nov 21 20:15:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA08359 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:15:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03621; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:15:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:14:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03548; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:14:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03535; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:14:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:14:57 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax5.vramp.net [198.138.8.68]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA07048; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:14:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <045701bf3486$fb762830$67088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: , "Rob Bell" Cc: References: <022501bf33da$bab78660$67088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <38386F4F.894D5892@netscape.net> <3838A199.462B@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Riddle Me This, Thinkpadman! Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:14:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: Thanks Bruce, that was my first thought too. But as I don't have administrator rights on the unit I can't even check what the current settings are. I can't wait until they upgrade to W2K, although given the lag between their original intent to upgrade to NT4 and how far along they are, they won't have W2K up and running until 2010! Regards, James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "Rob Bell" Cc: "James H. E. Maugham" ; Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Riddle Me This, Thinkpadman! > I wonder if the monitor could not handle the refresh rates, or if the > 600 is putting out a bad refresh rate. From cph Sun Nov 21 20:19:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA08380 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:19:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03879; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:18:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:18:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03802; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:18:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03789; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:18:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:18:14 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax5.vramp.net [198.138.8.68]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA07691; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:18:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <045d01bf3487$726cb760$67088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "David Newman" , References: Subject: Re: need a brick for old Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:18:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: David, They're on eBay all the time, usually go for between $25 and $40. There are several on there as I type this. Regards, James ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Newman" To: Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 9:16 PM Subject: need a brick for old > > I'm looking for a power transformer (the "brick") for an old Thinkpad 360cs. > I believe this is the same transformer used for the TP700, TP720, and TP75X > lines. > > Any ideas where I can buy one of these? > > Thanks in advance. > > David Newman > From cph Mon Nov 22 07:15:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA10326 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:15:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19093; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:14:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:11:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18964; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:11:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from chamber.cco.caltech.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18947; 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Mon, 22 Nov 1999 14:19:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 14:15:12 -0800 From: Barry Megdal Subject: TP600 -- new keyboard/bezel sounds hollow To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <3839C06F.7DE149D0@shbinstruments.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: List-Unsubscribe: I just had the keyboard and keyboard bezel replaced in my 266 MHz TP600 due to peeling paint and a bad Trackpoint. The minute I tried the machine, it became obvious that there was now a hollow sound everytime I typed a key. I bugged the serviceman about it, but he swears he put it back exactly as the original. Anyone else have this experience, or have any ideas? It is really quite annoying. Thanks. - Barry -- Dr. Barry Megdal shb Instruments, Inc. 19215 Parthenia St., Suite A Northridge, CA 91324 (818) 773-2000 (818) 773-2005 fax Dept. of Electrical Engineering California Institute of Technology Pasadena, CA From cph Mon Nov 22 18:17:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA15201 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:17:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07650; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:15:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:15:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07575; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:15:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07561; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:15:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (208.154.252.26 -> mail.iso.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:15:17 -0500 Received: from iso.net (dial21.auto-net.com [208.154.252.70]) by mail.iso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA59276 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:15:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wvantuyl@iso.net) Message-ID: <3839CDE8.68DB9D28@iso.net> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:12:41 -0600 From: William Van Tuyl Reply-To: wvantuyl@iso.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: thinkpad 730T - External floppy References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Would anybody happen to have the floppy pinouts fron the port replicator on the 730T? I have a floppy and a couple of cables I can cobble with but it is much easier to have the pinouts, you know. Scramble wiring doesn't succeed too often. Thank, Bill From cph Mon Nov 22 20:26:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA16061 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:26:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17723; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:25:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:24:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17615; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:24:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17602; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:24:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:24:24 -0500 Received: from kaste ([12.75.199.248]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991123012417.UOXY11314@kaste> for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:24:17 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01bf3551$45152520$f8c74b0c@kaste> From: "Kaste" To: References: <3839CDE8.68DB9D28@iso.net> Subject: Re: thinkpad 730T - External floppy Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:22:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: Sorry, I cant tell you, but please tell me if you ever get that working. I own a 730T and desperately need a floppy. Thanks, Garrett Kaste ----- Original Message ----- From: William Van Tuyl Cc: Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 6:12 PM Subject: thinkpad 730T - External floppy > Would anybody happen to have the floppy pinouts fron the port replicator on > the 730T? I have a floppy and a couple of cables I can cobble with but it is > much easier to have the pinouts, you know. Scramble wiring doesn't succeed > too often. > > Thank, Bill > > From cph Mon Nov 22 20:41:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA16199 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:41:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18566; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:39:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:39:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18476; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18463; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (165.87.194.229 -> out2.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:38:59 -0500 Received: from oscar ([32.100.95.250]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <1999112301385622901c7ir2e>; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:38:57 +0000 Message-ID: <002d01bf3553$85973460$fa5f6420@oscar> Reply-To: "Tom Franklin" From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Kaste" Cc: "ThinkPad List" References: <3839CDE8.68DB9D28@iso.net> <000f01bf3551$45152520$f8c74b0c@kaste> Subject: Re: thinkpad 730T - External floppy Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:39:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: There was a guy selling these floppies on eBay a while back. I bought one and use it on my port replicator for my Thinkpad 755CD. It works great. For example, see http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=205523056 They tend to go for less than $50. ----- Original Message ----- > Sorry, I cant tell you, but please tell me if you ever get that working. I > own a 730T and desperately need a floppy. From cph Mon Nov 22 22:26:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA16739 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:26:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25312; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:25:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:23:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25209; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:23:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25198; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:23:44 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3 -> imo13.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:23:44 -0500 Received: from Wmludlow99@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id o.0.3bfefedb (3864) for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:23:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.3bfefedb.256b62b9@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:23:37 EST Subject: POSSIBLE SWAP, ANYONE? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 List-Unsubscribe: I need a decent lid for a TP 350C I am trying to fix up for my grandkids for Christmas. The left hinge broke, probably due to excessive use. I think the easiest way to go is to find someone who has an old 350C TP. Would possibly help to motivate an exchange with my extra AC adapter, the one for a 755 et. al. that has a four-pin female connector, in the shape of a "D". I currently have a brand-new one I don't need. The last attempt to consummate an exchange that occurred here was apparently between two individuals who seemed to both lack a slight element of maturity. I can promise that won't occur with me. I'm too old for that nonsense. BILL LUDLOW LANSING, MICH. From cph Tue Nov 23 02:18:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA17492 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:18:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04873; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:10:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:09:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04786; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailout01.joymail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04762; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:09:02 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mailout01.joymail.com (209.133.47.60 -> mo01.joymail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:09:03 -0500 Received: from mo01.joymail.com (web01.joymail.com [209.133.47.18]) by mailout01.joymail.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA00248 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:21:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911230721.XAA00248@mailout01.joymail.com> To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: beware new bios for 770ed Date: Mon, 22 Nov 99 23: 4:44 PST X-Mailer: Joymail v3.0 X-Mailer-Info: http://www.joymail.com List-Unsubscribe: Can you tell more about this serial port failure? I am using a 770 with the latest bios under OS/2 Warp 4. Last week I bought a USRobotics Courier external and could not initialize my serial port. It has always been turned off because I was up to then using a PCMCIA modem. I couldnt see any reason why I could get the serial port to work until I saw your message. Wilson >Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 19:02:37 +0000 >From: JC >To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >Subject: beware new bios for 770ed >Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991120190237.008fd950@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> > >I have had a couple of days of misery caused by the new bios for the 770ed. >I suggest you use this with caution. It caused my serial port to fail, this >problem seems to be caused from the configuration utility damaging registry >entries. I have a thread running on the IBM forum,"new bios beeps too much" > >IBM should pull this from the website until it's fixed.. >Jerry Cudmore > >------------------------------ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Get your FREE email at http://www.joymail.com VoiceMail over the Internet and Sending email by a regular phone: http://firstgate.joymail.com From cph Tue Nov 23 05:27:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA17854 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:27:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21109; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:18:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:17:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21028; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:17:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21011; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:17:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:17:38 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p43.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.58]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA15197; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:17:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911231017.CAA15197@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Kaste" Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:19:53 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: thinkpad 730T - External floppy List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:22:54 -0500, Kaste wrote: >Sorry, I cant tell you, but please tell me if you ever get that working. I >own a 730T and desperately need a floppy. For those who are curious, I tried the floppy from my 701 and it didn't work. Now I just tried the floppy from my 760ED (which doesn't even work with this machine oddly enough) as I was writing this email, and it works fine. So if you can get a floppy from a 760, then it should work with the 730T. Paul From cph Tue Nov 23 05:28:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA17859 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:28:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21241; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:19:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:19:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21167; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:19:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21153; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:19:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:19:52 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p43.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.58]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA15247; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:19:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911231019.CAA15247@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "David Newman" Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:22:05 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: need a brick for old List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 18:16:32 -0800, David Newman wrote: > >I'm looking for a power transformer (the "brick") for an old Thinkpad 360cs. >I believe this is the same transformer used for the TP700, TP720, and TP75X >lines. > >Any ideas where I can buy one of these? You might check on eBay. I know that the same adapters work with the 355, 360, 750, 755, and 760 (though I have one adapter >from my 355 that I use with my 750, because I get slight backlight flickering when it's on my 760). Paul From cph Tue Nov 23 05:30:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA17863 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:30:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21468; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:21:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:21:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21389; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:21:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21376; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:21:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:21:21 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p43.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.58]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA15280; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:21:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911231021.CAA15280@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Chris Schumann" Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:23:27 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: thinkpad 730T List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:45:17 -0600 (CST), Chris Schumann wrote: >> From: Custm42435@aol.com >> Subject: thinkpad 730T > >> i am having problems when i try to enable the 32 bit pcmcia card .. >> anyone heard of this problem? i have NO idea of how to fix this, but i >> need to either know what pcmcia port driver to use or whatever, because >> since it has a pcmcia hard drive, when it tries to enable the 32 bit >> support, it shuts off the hard drive in the middle of loading win95 and >> thus, locks up the computer.. what do i Do?? HELP!!!! Chris > >IIRC, PCMCIA is a 16-bit bus, so it cannot support 32-bit operations. IIR >incorrectly, then you'll need documentation about the drive. Hopefully, >you can get it from the mfr's web site. > >I have looked for PCMCIA hard drive/ThinkPad information in the past, and >it is scarce indeed. Let us know what you find. There is a driver that someone used (and modified the .inf so it would work on the 730) that works with PCMCIA cards correctly. It was apparently written originally for the PC 110. I can try and get this for anyone who needs it. Paul From cph Tue Nov 23 05:32:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA17867 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:32:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21674; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:23:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:23:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21597; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:23:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21583; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:23:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:23:18 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p43.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.58]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA15321; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:23:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911231023.CAA15321@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Bryan Jones" Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:25:14 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 730t screen orientation List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 05:51:25 -0600, Bryan Jones wrote: >Rob, > >Go here for more information on the 730t. > >http://www.globalmonitor.com/730Tos.html > >If you're using Win for Pen 1.0 (Windows 3 with Pen Extensions), then there >should be a program, I think in Control Panel, that lets you change the >screen orientation. As far as Win95 or 98, there should be some info on that >site that will help you if you want that, but it will probably be pretty >slow. I tried to set up Win95, but could not figure out how to install the >Pen Extension, which must be version 2.0. > I got my 730T from Global Monitor, and I have Win95 working on it (quite well, actually in it's docking station right now). I don't think you can change the screen orientation in Win95, though. But the machine sure beats my Newton in hand writing recognition, etc... Paul From cph Tue Nov 23 05:41:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA17889 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:41:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22255; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:33:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:33:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22180; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:33:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22167; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:33:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:33:02 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p47.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.62]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA15543; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:33:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911231033.CAA15543@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "STeve Andre'" Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:35:24 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ThinkPad 755 question List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:12:24 -0500, STeve Andre' wrote: >I have a user who has a model 755C with 20M and about 320M of disk. >She wants to add a modem to this computer. Given its age, I don't >think it could take Cardbus equipment, so I'm looking at stock PCMCIA >modem cards. > >Are there any to watch out for, compatibility wise? She'd like to spend >no more than $125. Any comments about good ones out there? > Make sure it's not a modem. And yes, CardBus is the equivalent of PCI for notebooks, or close enough... I have an older Motorola 33.6 in my 750, which works well when I use it as the portable server it is (IP Masquerading). USR/Megahertz/3COM are good also. If you want less hassle, go with a non-WinModem. I do internet tech support, so I know the difference that having a hardware modem vs. a software modem is (since many 56K PCMCIA modems under $100 are el-cheapo WinModems). Paul From cph Tue Nov 23 05:43:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA17893 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:43:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22440; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:34:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:34:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22365; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:34:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22351; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:34:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:34:42 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p47.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.62]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA15572; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:34:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911231034.CAA15572@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Bryan Jones" Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:37:04 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 730T info? List-Unsubscribe: Regarding installing Windows on the 730, I was able to get Win95 working before my floppy and docking station arrived (I also bought mine from Global Monitor). I did have to use my 750 for most of the installation process, and a few reboots, but all is working now, and I even have DUN working on the lowly configuration my machine is now... Paul From cph Tue Nov 23 05:46:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA17901 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:46:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA23004; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:37:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22931; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22918; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:37:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:37:38 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p47.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.62]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA15638; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:37:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911231037.CAA15638@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "captjhem@waterw.com" Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:39:59 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ThinkPad 755 question List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:33:17 -0500, James H. E. Maugham wrote: >On 15 Nov 99, at 19:12, STeve Andre' wrote: > >> I have a user who has a model 755C with 20M and about 320M of disk. >> She wants to add a modem to this computer. Given its age, I don't >> think it could take Cardbus equipment, so I'm looking at stock PCMCIA >> modem cards. > >I'm using USR/3Com PCMCIA modems almost exclusively in all of my older >755s and 750s (primarily 755cs and 750c units) under W95 with very good >results. > >They are almost all upgraded 28.8s now operating at 33.6, which is about as >fast as you want to push things with a low speed 486. These modems and >others just like them are traded all the time on eBay for less than $20.00. > I find with my Motorola that even at 33.6, speeds are almost comparable to my dialup server here, which always gets connected at 49333 (also a hardware modem). But I do believe you would have good luck with USR/3COM, since Motorola was/is trying to get out of the consumer modem business (or so I heard). As for transfer rates on a 486, it shouldn't make that much a difference with a modem. When you get into network cards, that becomes a different story. Paul From cph Tue Nov 23 05:50:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA17910 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:50:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA23299; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:42:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:41:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA23225; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:41:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA23212; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:41:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:41:46 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p47.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.62]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA15713; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:41:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911231041.CAA15713@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "George McDowell" Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:44:09 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 730T info? List-Unsubscribe: --Original Message Text--- From: George McDowell Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:54:09 -0600 My name is George McDowell, and I purchased a 730T used from Globalmonitor. #1 question: will any external fdisk work on the mobile docking station? I tried the external floppy kit from my 760 (which ironically doesn't work with my 760 *grin* ), and that works just fine. The floppy it uses is the type found in, of course, the 760, 755, 750, 360, and 355 ThinkPads. #2:Is this how you load a pen application through a fdisk? Same way you would on a notebook with a keyboard. You're going to need the docking station to hook up the floppy anyways, so you should be able to then put on an external keyboard as well... #3: Where can I download the OS needed to run pen as I can't get passed the msdos "correct date /time y-n. If you have some information I could use, would you please send it to me? If you have another ThinkPad available to you, preferably a 750 or 755, you could load Win95 that way, though the method I did it is that you'd need a spare HD, and have the cabs on that spare drive. If you or anyone else has questions, feel free to ask me. I might be slightly slow at responding, as I now work for a major ISP, thus I haven't had time to answer all my emails like I used to. Paul From cph Tue Nov 23 12:24:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA20083 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:24:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18036; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:18:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17648; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:18:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17638; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:18:06 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.33 -> imo-d01.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:18:07 -0500 Received: from JEShoemaker@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id o.0.5ac8ea0d (4463) for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:18:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.5ac8ea0d.256c264b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:18:03 EST Subject: HDD Recognition To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 List-Unsubscribe: My TP770X came with a 8GB HDD. When I attached a 10GB external PCMCIA HD to make a mirror image, only 8.2GB were recognized. I have the latest Windows 98 BIOS installed. INT 13 is checked, but greyed-out, in Disk Drive Properties in Device Manager. How can I get the machine to recognize a larger than 8GB hard drive? TIA ... John From cph Tue Nov 23 16:47:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA22055 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:47:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13345; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:43:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:42:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13193; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:42:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13180; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:42:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (165.87.194.252 -> out1.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:42:02 -0500 Received: from basterfield.com ([139.92.219.64]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <1999112321413825203gracne>; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 21:41:59 +0000 Message-ID: <383B099D.281B9A42@basterfield.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 21:39:41 +0000 From: Daniel Basterfield Organization: My middle name! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury CC: ThinkPad List , Chris Schumann Subject: Re: thinkpad 730T References: <199911231021.CAA15280@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Paul Khoury wrote: > There is a driver that someone used (and modified the .inf so it would work on the > 730) that works with PCMCIA cards correctly. It was apparently written originally > for the PC 110. I can try and get this for anyone who needs it. > > Paul It's here: http://www.basterfield.com/tp730/win95/win95-3.htm I'm still having trouble with my PCMCIA hard drive running as a compatibility mode device, but it most definitely provides PCMCIA support. I have used an IBM auto 16/6 token ring card in it, and currently use an IBM Wireless LAN card. Dan. -- Daniel Basterfield "He who dies with the most toys wins" OS/2 Certified Engineer Microsoft Certified Professional ----------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM PC110 web page: http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm From cph Tue Nov 23 16:54:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA22102 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:54:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14816; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:47:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:47:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14677; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:47:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14638; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:47:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (165.87.194.252 -> out1.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:47:02 -0500 Received: from basterfield.com ([139.92.219.64]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <1999112321465925201hdq09e>; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 21:47:00 +0000 Message-ID: <383B0ADE.358DC69B@basterfield.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 21:45:02 +0000 From: Daniel Basterfield Organization: My middle name! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wvantuyl@iso.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad 730T - External floppy References: <3839CDE8.68DB9D28@iso.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: William Van Tuyl wrote: > > Would anybody happen to have the floppy pinouts fron the port replicator on > the 730T? I have a floppy and a couple of cables I can cobble with but it is > much easier to have the pinouts, you know. Scramble wiring doesn't succeed > too often. > > Thank, Bill Don't bother - just get a drive secondhand. From sculling about in my cupboard, external floppy drives for these machines will work: PS/2 N33sx ThinkPad 755, 760 ThinkPad 820, 850 The 755/760 drives are particularly common on ebay and the like. If you need FRU numbers to confirm before purchasing, check what the seller has against the maintenance manual TPVOL?.PDF files on IBM's web site. Dan. -- Daniel Basterfield "He who dies with the most toys wins" OS/2 Certified Engineer Microsoft Certified Professional ----------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM PC110 web page: http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm From cph Tue Nov 23 16:57:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA22138 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:57:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15659; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:56:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:56:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15555; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:56:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15542; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:56:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (165.87.194.252 -> out1.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:56:14 -0500 Received: from basterfield.com ([139.92.219.223]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <1999112321561025203rccnqe>; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 21:56:12 +0000 Message-ID: <383B0D06.D0A2E437@basterfield.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 21:54:14 +0000 From: Daniel Basterfield Organization: My middle name! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu CC: Wmludlow99@aol.com Subject: Re: POSSIBLE SWAP, ANYONE? References: <0.3bfefedb.256b62b9@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Wmludlow99@aol.com wrote: > > I need a decent lid for a TP 350C I am trying to fix up for my grandkids for > Christmas. The left hinge broke, probably due to excessive use. Common problem on early models (350, 700, 720) and, strangely, the 370. If the lid makes creaking noises, or does not move smoothly, when you open it, it is due to a fault in the hinges. The are basically a set of friction plates which seize up - I have seen this so many times. The excessive force used to open and close the lid is transferred to the rear corners of the lower case, which crack over time. This is quite a brittle material when put under repeated strain. Alternatively, the retaining screws work loose, and the screen slops back and forth. The bad news is that you will have to strip the machines fairly extensively to remove the hinges themselves, and then soak them in penetrating oil. I cleaned a set of TP700 hinges four months ago, soaking them in WD40 for ten minutes, and they have been almost like new since then. I don't know how frequently this will have to be done; originally there was an ECA out for this, but I think the free replacement period is long gone by now. Dan. -- Daniel Basterfield "He who dies with the most toys wins" OS/2 Certified Engineer Microsoft Certified Professional ----------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM PC110 web page: http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm From cph Tue Nov 23 16:59:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA22152 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:59:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15921; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:57:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:57:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15832; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15806; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:57:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (208.154.252.26 -> mail.iso.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:57:35 -0500 Received: from iso.net (dial32.auto-net.com [208.154.252.81]) by mail.iso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA92054; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:57:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wvantuyl@iso.net) Message-ID: <383B0A66.326C090F@iso.net> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:43:02 -0600 From: William Van Tuyl Reply-To: wvantuyl@iso.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Basterfield CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad 730T - External floppy References: <3839CDE8.68DB9D28@iso.net> <383B0ADE.358DC69B@basterfield.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Well, I have all the tpvol files but no pin outs. Am I stubborn? The real story is I have 4 Dell external drives with cables for some other machine than the 730. The floppy in the Dell case is a TEAC - same as the IBM> I could cut and splice 2 of the cables since the floppy end is the same as the 730T end. All this I'll have to do at 2 in the morn since that is the only free time I have (Hell I don't really have to sleep - there's another 30 min of free time.) Of course I could trade a floppy for a cable???? Thanks, Bill BTW, I appreciate how you have shared your work on the 730T. OH YES -- ""He who dies with the most toys, still dies."" Daniel Basterfield wrote: > William Van Tuyl wrote: > > > > Would anybody happen to have the floppy pinouts fron the port replicator on > > the 730T? I have a floppy and a couple of cables I can cobble with but it is > > much easier to have the pinouts, you know. Scramble wiring doesn't succeed > > too often. > > > > Thank, Bill > > Don't bother - just get a drive secondhand. From sculling about in my > cupboard, external floppy drives for these machines will work: > > PS/2 N33sx > ThinkPad 755, 760 > ThinkPad 820, 850 > > The 755/760 drives are particularly common on ebay and the like. If you > need FRU numbers to confirm before purchasing, check what the seller has > against the maintenance manual TPVOL?.PDF files on IBM's web site. > > Dan. > -- > Daniel Basterfield "He who dies with the most toys wins" > OS/2 Certified Engineer > Microsoft Certified Professional > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > IBM PC110 web page: http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm From cph Wed Nov 24 06:48:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA25677 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 06:48:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01761; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 06:43:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 06:40:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01603; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 06:40:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01576; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 06:40:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 06:40:17 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p15.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.30]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA22174; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 03:40:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911241140.DAA22174@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Daniel Basterfield" Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 03:42:26 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: thinkpad 730T List-Unsubscribe: >It's here: > >http://www.basterfield.com/tp730/win95/win95-3.htm > >I'm still having trouble with my PCMCIA hard drive running as a >compatibility mode device, but it most definitely provides PCMCIA >support. I have used an IBM auto 16/6 token ring card in it, and >currently use an IBM Wireless LAN card. > I've noticed the same thing. Guess that's reminiscent of the driver then. I can't wait to get more RAM for my machine and put a NIC in it (run apps off the server, as PCMCIA HDs seem somewhat expensive). Also, if he who dies with the most toys wins, what about those of us who live with the most toys? =) Paul From cph Wed Nov 24 10:14:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA26330 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:14:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12572; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:12:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:11:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12452; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12439; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:11:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (198.206.134.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:11:25 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-102.gate.net [199.227.20.165]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19878; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:11:17 -0500 Message-ID: <383C0028.8BBB7D54@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:11:36 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Barry Megdal CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600 -- new keyboard/bezel sounds hollow References: <3839C06F.7DE149D0@shbinstruments.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: There are a bunch of screws that hold this in place and one might be missing or loose.. or there might be a wire pinched between the base and keyboard.. take out the CD and battery and give it a visual inspection.. you can look at the IBM hardware manuals on their web site for screw placement and which screws are used for the keyboard.. if it was done at easy serve, note that they have improved over the last months and that they do these all the time (unless you got a new tech)... Barry Megdal wrote: > I just had the keyboard and keyboard bezel replaced in my 266 MHz TP600 > due to peeling paint and a bad Trackpoint. The minute I tried the > machine, it became obvious that there was now a hollow sound everytime I > typed a key. I bugged the serviceman about it, but he swears he put it > back exactly as the original. Anyone else have this experience, or have > any ideas? It is really quite annoying. > > Thanks. > > - Barry > > -- > Dr. Barry Megdal > > shb Instruments, Inc. > 19215 Parthenia St., Suite A > Northridge, CA 91324 > (818) 773-2000 (818) 773-2005 fax > > Dept. of Electrical Engineering > California Institute of Technology > Pasadena, CA -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Wed Nov 24 10:19:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA26362 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:19:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13139; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:17:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:17:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13029; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:17:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13013; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:17:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (198.206.134.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:17:07 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-102.gate.net [199.227.20.165]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA30568; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:17:04 -0500 Message-ID: <383C0183.FF3463C8@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:17:23 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wmludlow99@aol.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: POSSIBLE SWAP, ANYONE? References: <0.3bfefedb.256b62b9@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bill.. i have a 360 case here.. the same thing is wrong with it, but its only got a few cracks.. some epoxy and glass cloth would do a dandy job of fixing it up.. no exchange required, i think you are a customer, no.. ? yes..?? Wmludlow99@aol.com wrote: > I need a decent lid for a TP 350C I am trying to fix up for my grandkids for > Christmas. The left hinge broke, probably due to excessive use. I think the > easiest way to go is to find someone who has an old 350C TP. Would possibly > help to motivate an exchange with my extra AC adapter, the one for a 755 et. > al. that has a four-pin female connector, in the shape of a "D". I currently > have a brand-new one I don't need. The last attempt to consummate an exchange > that occurred here was apparently between two individuals who seemed to both > lack a slight element of maturity. I can promise that won't occur with me. > I'm too old for that nonsense. > > BILL LUDLOW > LANSING, MICH. -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Wed Nov 24 10:24:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA26385 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:24:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13789; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:21:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:21:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13709; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:21:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13696; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:21:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (198.206.134.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:21:45 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-102.gate.net [199.227.20.165]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25384 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:21:43 -0500 Message-ID: <383C029A.1632D0A4@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:22:02 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z.. and i imagine in any thinkpad that is less than a year old or thereabouts AND will accept a 17mm high HDD... be sure to upgrade the bios (except 770ED users) -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Wed Nov 24 10:41:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA26473 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:41:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15261; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:41:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:40:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15150; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:40:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger.sivco.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15137; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:40:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger.sivco.com (209.91.123.78 -> h-209-91-123-78.gen.cadvision.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:40:44 -0500 Received: from geza770x.sivco.com ([32.100.149.105]) by tigger.sivco.com (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.1a) with SMTP id 1999112408394752:5 ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:39:47 -0700 From: Geza Szivos/SIVCO Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:40:18 -0700 To: Bill Morrow cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on tigger/Sivco(Release 5.0.1a|August 17, 1999) at 11/24/99 08:39:48 AM, Serialize by Router on tigger/Sivco(Release 5.0.1a|August 17, 1999) at 11/24/99 08:39:59 AM, Serialize complete at 11/24/99 08:39:59 AM X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Does it work with the "regular" 770 line too? 770 and 770X ? Do you have it on your web site? Geza Bill Morrow on 11/24/99 08:22:02 AM To: ThinkPad List cc: FaxTo: Subject: 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z.. and i imagine in any thinkpad that is less than a year old or thereabouts AND will accept a 17mm high HDD... be sure to upgrade the bios (except 770ED users) -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Wed Nov 24 11:08:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA26619 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:08:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17657; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:07:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:06:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17514; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:06:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.mia.bellsouth.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17366; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:05:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.mia.bellsouth.net (205.152.16.14 -> mail2.mia.bellsouth.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:05:04 -0500 Received: from CherokeeInstW27 (1Cust220.tnt2.durham.nc.da.uu.net [63.23.238.220]) by mail2.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id LAA09930 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:04:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <006501bf3695$55a3fa20$0500a8c0@CherokeeInstW27> From: "Michael J. House Sr." To: Subject: [TP755CD] Weird keyboard problem Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:02:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: Hi, my name is Michael and I have a TP755CD. {Crowd goes "Hi Michael"} I got this TP for around $100 from a good friend. It's in good condition cosmetically and electronically. Being the tinkerer, I've had the keyboard open quite a few times since I got it with no problems. I bought a new 32mb Viking RAM card and installed it. When I rebooted, the keyboard started acting weird. Alot of keys wouldn't work, but the ones next to them would actuate both (ie: "b" wouldn't work, but "n" would produce "nb" on a text document). Figures "F1" nor "F8" would work. On a related note, I bought a Dock II and an external keyboard works fine thru it. I just purchased a spare keyboard that is doing the same thing. I ran the diagnostic program I found on the ftp site and the diag has the keyboard as US/Hebrew! How the heck did that happen? The FRU number on both keyboards are US/English. I've tried cleaning the contacts, removing the main and suspend batteries for a couple of hours, reflashing the BIOS (it won't RE-flash, btw), all to no avail. How do I get the BIOS to recognize it as US/English? Help! Michael From cph Wed Nov 24 12:38:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA27306 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:38:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25251; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:37:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:36:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25103; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:36:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25089; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:36:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (198.206.134.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:36:21 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-102.gate.net [199.227.20.165]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA44346 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:36:17 -0500 Message-ID: <383C2224.81EC25B6@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:36:36 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse for $1499 ! this IS a good price, but beware that this is the original model and it is also the Celeron 300 mhz cpu model.. it uses the same memory as the 770.. if i had the cash for a toy i would sure buy one for myself just to compare to the 701.. :-) -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Wed Nov 24 12:38:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA27313 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:38:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25469; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:38:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:37:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25350; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:37:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25330; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (198.206.134.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:37:47 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-102.gate.net [199.227.20.165]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA37032; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:37:28 -0500 Message-ID: <383C226B.1B715E5B@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:37:47 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Geza Szivos/SIVCO CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: its on the web site, but i would need to send it to birger for him to test in his vast array of thinkpad 770's... my guess is yes until testing proves otherwise.. Geza Szivos/SIVCO wrote: > Does it work with the "regular" 770 line too? 770 and 770X ? > > Do you have it on your web site? > > Geza > > Bill Morrow on 11/24/99 08:22:02 AM > To: ThinkPad List > cc: > FaxTo: > > Subject: 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z > > 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z.. > and i imagine in any thinkpad that is less than a year old or > thereabouts AND will accept a 17mm high HDD... > > be sure to upgrade the bios (except 770ED users) > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Wed Nov 24 12:50:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA27392 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:50:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26511; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:48:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:48:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26422; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:48:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26409; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (198.206.134.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:48:01 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-102.gate.net [199.227.20.165]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA68084; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:47:57 -0500 Message-ID: <383C24E0.D5B022F3@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:48:16 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JEShoemaker@aol.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: HDD Recognition References: <0.5ac8ea0d.256c264b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: the machine SHOULD see what the drive is telling it is there.. so, first, be sure the drive is formatted for the full 10gigs.. also note: 10gigs is 10billion (base 10), not 10 billion bytes (base 8) which is more.. :-) so the true yeild for a 10gig drive is 9 something gigaBYTES... JEShoemaker@aol.com wrote: > My TP770X came with a 8GB HDD. When I attached > a 10GB external PCMCIA HD to make a mirror image, > only 8.2GB were recognized. > > I have the latest Windows 98 BIOS installed. INT 13 > is checked, but greyed-out, in Disk Drive Properties in > Device Manager. > > How can I get the machine to recognize a larger than > 8GB hard drive? > > TIA ... John -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Wed Nov 24 13:29:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA27632 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:29:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29822; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:28:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:28:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29703; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:28:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29690; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:28:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.206.132 -> dh-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:28:37 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) id NAA20593 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:28:35 -0500 (EST) Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) with SMTP id NAA20543 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:28:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911241828.NAA20543@hpdmraaa.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:28:31 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:37:47 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >its on the web site, but i would need to send it to birger >for him to test in his vast array of thinkpad 770's... > >my guess is yes until testing proves otherwise.. How about the 18Gb on the 600? Got the 12.7mm 18Gb yet? (I've got my 10Gb working now so it's maybe time to upgrade). andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Wed Nov 24 13:30:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA27652 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:30:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00115; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:30:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:29:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29963; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:29:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29947; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:29:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (165.87.194.243 -> out5.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:29:50 -0500 Received: from basterfield.com ([139.92.215.237]) by prserv.net (out5) with SMTP id <1999112418294324301kqadne>; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:29:44 +0000 Message-ID: <383C2E1F.D02C8DB6@basterfield.com> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:27:43 +0000 From: Daniel Basterfield Organization: My middle name! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury , wvantuyl@iso.net CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: thinkpad 730T References: <199911241140.DAA22174@stevie.loop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Gents, "He who dies with the most toys wins" Meant as a long-term accumulation-satisfaction thing, along the lines of "enjoy it while you can" combined with "more is better". Dan. -- Daniel Basterfield "He who dies with the most toys wins" OS/2 Certified Engineer Microsoft Certified Professional ----------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM PC110 web page: http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm From cph Wed Nov 24 14:26:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA28019 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:26:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05800; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:24:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:23:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05623; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:23:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05604; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:23:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (198.206.134.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:23:19 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-102.gate.net [199.227.20.165]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10810; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:23:14 -0500 Message-ID: <383C3B35.5A01472B@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:23:33 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Webber CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z References: <199911241828.NAA20543@hpdmraaa.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: ANdrew... i did not order any.. too cash poor to speculate.. if you really want one, i'll see if i can find any.. Andrew Webber wrote: > On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:37:47 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: > > >its on the web site, but i would need to send it to birger > >for him to test in his vast array of thinkpad 770's... > > > >my guess is yes until testing proves otherwise.. > > How about the 18Gb on the 600? Got the 12.7mm 18Gb yet? (I've got > my 10Gb working now so it's maybe time to upgrade). > > andrew > ------ > current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Wed Nov 24 14:42:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA28120 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:42:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07355; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:40:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07232; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:40:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07214; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:40:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:40:01 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA01204; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:39:54 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <002c01bf36b3$af45db20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Bill Morrow" , "ThinkPad List" References: <383C2224.81EC25B6@icanect.net> Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:39:52 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse for $1499 ! A quick search at www.pricescan.com shows several vendors with this for under $1600, so I assume that this machine is being dumped. BTW, has anyone heard of/done business with EX/Portable? They showed up in my pricescan search with lots of very low prices on older model laptops, including a TP600 P2-233 for $1600 that is tempting the heck out of me. - David R. From cph Wed Nov 24 14:56:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA28238 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:56:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09037; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:55:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:55:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08939; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:55:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08926; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:55:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (198.206.134.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:55:12 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl2-102.gate.net [199.227.20.165]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA35022; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:55:07 -0500 Message-ID: <383C42AE.BE58A00A@icanect.net> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:55:27 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Ross CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 References: <383C2224.81EC25B6@icanect.net> <002c01bf36b3$af45db20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Dave.. never heard of these people.. my cost on a 240 is $1575, thus my post to anyone who might want the deal.. (one of my nmemory customers sent me the heads up) the early 240 is being dumped.. the faster model is a C-366, otherwise all else is the same.. David Ross wrote: > > ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse for $1499 ! > > A quick search at www.pricescan.com shows several vendors with this for under > $1600, > so I assume that this machine is being dumped. > > BTW, has anyone heard of/done business with EX/Portable? They showed up in my > pricescan > search with lots of very low prices on older model laptops, including a TP600 > P2-233 for > $1600 that is tempting the heck out of me. > > - David R. -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Wed Nov 24 16:54:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA28880 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:54:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21565; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:52:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21397; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:52:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21382; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:52:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.206.140 -> ds-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:52:46 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.1) id QAA04863 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:52:44 -0500 (EST) Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by spdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.1) with SMTP id QAA04752 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:52:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911242152.QAA04752@spdmraaa.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:52:29 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:34:04 -0500 (EST), Allan wrote: >Why "less than a year old?" Is it a bios thing? > >OS/2 Warp and NT should have no problem... > >Allan Ballard > >On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:22:02 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: > >>25gig drive works fine in the 770Z.. >>and i imagine in any thinkpad that is less than a >>year old or thereabouts AND will accept a 17mm >>high HDD... Prolly. You may recall that my TP600 (purchased June '98) wouldn't recognize my new 10gig without a BIOS patch. I imagine there might not be such a patch available for some older TPs. andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Wed Nov 24 16:59:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA28929 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:59:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22211; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:57:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:57:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22135; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:57:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22086; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:57:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (208.154.252.26 -> mail.iso.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:57:18 -0500 Received: from iso.net (dial28.auto-net.com [208.154.252.77]) by mail.iso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18514; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:51:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wvantuyl@iso.net) Message-ID: <383C5F28.F9E37C15@iso.net> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:56:57 -0600 From: William Van Tuyl Reply-To: wvantuyl@iso.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Basterfield CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: thinkpad 730T References: <199911241140.DAA22174@stevie.loop.com> <383C2E1F.D02C8DB6@basterfield.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Gents, etc., Oh sure, toys as an external source of a manifestation of the pursuit happiness versus the happiness that might be achieved with a truly soulful connection to the world around oneself. Yeh, I understand now, toy gazing versus navel gazing. And it all ends - at least the toys are left behind - I'm not sure of anything else. Bill William Van Tuyl Friend of an IBM Systems Engineer Certifiable according to F&F (I forget the symbols for "tongue in the cheek") Daniel Basterfield wrote: > Gents, > > "He who dies with the most toys wins" > > Meant as a long-term accumulation-satisfaction thing, along the lines of > "enjoy it while you can" combined with "more is better". > > Dan. > -- > Daniel Basterfield "He who dies with the most toys wins" > OS/2 Certified Engineer > Microsoft Certified Professional > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > IBM PC110 web page: http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm From cph Wed Nov 24 17:04:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA28969 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:04:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22735; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:02:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:02:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22652; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:02:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.mia.bellsouth.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22639; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:02:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.mia.bellsouth.net (205.152.16.13 -> mail1.mia.bellsouth.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:02:18 -0500 Received: from CherokeeInstW27 (1Cust115.tnt3.durham.nc.da.uu.net [63.23.239.115]) by mail1.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id RAA17893 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:02:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00f901bf36c7$259b74c0$0500a8c0@CherokeeInstW27> From: "Michael J. House Sr." To: Subject: [TP755CD] Weird keyboard problem--Help, please? Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:57:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: Hi, my name is Michael and I have a TP755CD. {Crowd goes "Hi Michael"} I got this TP for around $100 from a good friend. It's in good condition cosmetically and electronically. Being the tinkerer, I've had the keyboard open quite a few times since I got it with no problems. I bought a new 32mb Viking RAM card and installed it. When I rebooted, the keyboard started acting weird. Alot of keys wouldn't work, but the ones next to them would actuate both (ie: "b" wouldn't work, but "n" would produce "nb" on a text document). Figures "F1" nor "F8" would work. On a related note, I bought a Dock II and an external keyboard works fine thru it. I just purchased a spare keyboard that is doing the same thing. I ran the diagnostic program I found on the ftp site and the diag has the keyboard as US/Hebrew! How the heck did that happen? The FRU number on both keyboards are US/English. I've tried cleaning the contacts, removing the main and suspend batteries for a couple of hours, reflashing the BIOS (it won't RE-flash, btw), all to no avail. How do I get the BIOS to recognize it as US/English? Help! Michael From cph Wed Nov 24 17:18:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA29018 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:18:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24301; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:17:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:17:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24200; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:17:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23766; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:13:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (24.2.1.66 -> ha1.rdc1.il.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:13:15 -0500 Received: from home.com ([24.2.240.166]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19991124221311.VZTH8758.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@home.com> for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:13:11 -0800 Message-ID: <383C632D.BA9A39E0@home.com> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:14:05 -0600 From: Jim Schneider X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z References: <383C226B.1B715E5B@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: If you send it to me, I will test it in my 770E ;-> Bill Morrow wrote: > its on the web site, but i would need to send it to birger for him to > test in his vast array of thinkpad 770's... > > my guess is yes until testing proves otherwise.. > > Geza Szivos/SIVCO wrote: > > > Does it work with the "regular" 770 line too? 770 and 770X ? > > > > Do you have it on your web site? > > > > Geza > > > > Bill Morrow on 11/24/99 08:22:02 AM > > To: ThinkPad List > > cc: > > FaxTo: > > > > Subject: 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z > > > > 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z.. > > and i imagine in any thinkpad that is less than a year old or > > thereabouts AND will accept a 17mm high HDD... > > > > be sure to upgrade the bios (except 770ED users) > > > > -- > > Happy trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Wed Nov 24 17:23:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA29041 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:23:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24835; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:22:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:22:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24756; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:22:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24741; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:22:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.200.246 -> smtp10.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:22:05 -0500 Received: from user-37ka147.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37ka147.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.4.135]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA01165; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:21:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911242221.RAA01165@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> From: "Allan" To: "Andrew Webber" , "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:22:24 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <199911242152.QAA04752@spdmraaa.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z List-Unsubscribe: Were you running an OS that could see the drive? I've had trouble with Win95 before and large drives; haven't used '98. No problema with OS/2; shouldn't be one with NT (I think). On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:52:29 -0500, Andrew Webber wrote: >Prolly. You may recall that my TP600 (purchased June '98) wouldn't >recognize my new 10gig without a BIOS patch. I imagine there might >not be such a patch available for some older TPs. From cph Wed Nov 24 18:15:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA29253 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:15:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19074; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:34:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:33:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18942; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:33:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18925; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.200.246 -> smtp10.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:33:32 -0500 Received: from user-37ka147.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37ka147.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.4.135]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA21711; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:33:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911242133.QAA21711@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> From: "Allan" To: "Bill Morrow" , "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:34:04 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <383C029A.1632D0A4@icanect.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z List-Unsubscribe: Why "less than a year old?" Is it a bios thing? OS/2 Warp and NT should have no problem... Allan Ballard On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:22:02 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >25gig drive works fine in the 770Z.. >and i imagine in any thinkpad that is less than a year old or >thereabouts AND will accept a 17mm high HDD... From cph Wed Nov 24 19:09:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA29516 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:09:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04416; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:09:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:08:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04261; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:08:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04246; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (206.127.32.35 -> tam.dorsai.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:08:44 -0500 Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (higgins@amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA29147 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:13:47 -0500 (EST) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id TAA09901 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:13:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911250013.TAA09901@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 (fwd) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad list) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:13:41 -0500 (est) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > > the early 240 is being dumped.. the faster model is a C-366, otherwise all else is > the same.. > Let's face it, the differnce between a 300 and a 366mhz chip is pretty trivial. Makes the lower-end 240 a pretty tasty deal... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph Wed Nov 24 21:01:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA30012 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:01:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15992; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:00:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15866; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:00:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15853; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.217.152 -> ah-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:00:34 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) id VAA22520 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:00:33 -0500 (EST) Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (x2port119.magma.ca [206.191.28.119]) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) with SMTP id VAA22454; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:00:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911250200.VAA22454@hpamraaa.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "Allan " , "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 20:59:39 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:22:24 -0500 (EST), Allan wrote: >Were you running an OS that could see the drive? > >I've had trouble with Win95 before and large drives; >haven't used '98. No problema with OS/2; shouldn't >be one with NT (I think). > >On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:52:29 -0500, Andrew Webber wrote: > >>Prolly. You may recall that my TP600 (purchased >>June '98) wouldn't recognize my new 10gig without >>a BIOS patch. I imagine there might not be such >>a patch available for some older TPs. Yes, and I see my earlier reply is not quite accurate (i.e. it's wrong). I could see the drive with Win95, but I could only see 8gig. Patched the BIOS and now I can see 10gig. Actually 9.something as Bill says. andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Wed Nov 24 21:07:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA30043 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:07:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16693; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:06:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:06:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16617; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:06:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16603; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:06:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.19 -> mtiwgwc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:06:26 -0500 Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.61.151]) by mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991125020623.EWWW1696@dts-jl> for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 02:06:23 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19991124210613.00f1fd20@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:06:13 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199911250013.TAA09901@amanda.dorsai.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 07:13 PM 11/24/99 -0500, John Higgins wrote: >> the early 240 is being dumped.. the faster model is a C-366, otherwise all else is >> the same.. >> >Let's face it, the differnce between a 300 and a 366mhz chip is pretty >trivial. Makes the lower-end 240 a pretty tasty deal... > Celaron 300 vs PII 366, but you're right - not much performance difference. I didn't like the TP240, BTW, and IBM's support for NT40 on it sucked. Jane From cph Wed Nov 24 21:34:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA30076 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:34:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19244; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:33:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:32:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19081; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:32:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot019.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19068; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:32:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot019.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.119 -> pilot019.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:32:53 -0500 Received: from andres (pm561-33.dialip.mich.net [35.9.49.235]) by pilot019.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA27214 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:32:50 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991124213252.009e5ae0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:32:52 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19991124210613.00f1fd20@postoffice.worldnet.att.n et> References: <199911250013.TAA09901@amanda.dorsai.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hmmmm: if the comparison is a 300MHz Celeron vs. a 366MHz PII, then I'd have to say thats a difference. Don't forget that a Celeron is about 11% slower than the equivelant PII, thus making just about a 100MHz difference in clock speeds. Still, stuffing the 240 with as much ram as possible will let Window's internal machinations go more unnoticed and help to hide the speed difference. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 09:06 PM 11/24/1999 -0500, Jane Loyless wrote: >At 07:13 PM 11/24/99 -0500, John Higgins wrote: > >>> the early 240 is being dumped.. the faster model is a C-366, otherwise >all else is >>> the same.. >>> >>Let's face it, the differnce between a 300 and a 366mhz chip is pretty >>trivial. Makes the lower-end 240 a pretty tasty deal... >> > >Celaron 300 vs PII 366, but you're right - not much performance difference. > >I didn't like the TP240, BTW, and IBM's support for NT40 on it sucked. > >Jane From cph Wed Nov 24 21:49:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA30108 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:49:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20907; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:47:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:47:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20834; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:47:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20821; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:47:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.19 -> mtiwgwc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:47:42 -0500 Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.61.151]) by mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991125024740.FRDN1696@dts-jl> for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 02:47:40 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19991124214729.00f01cc0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:47:29 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991124213252.009e5ae0@pilot.msu.edu> References: <3.0.1.32.19991124210613.00f1fd20@postoffice.worldnet.att.n et> <199911250013.TAA09901@amanda.dorsai.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 09:32 PM 11/24/99 -0500, STeve Andre' wrote: >Hmmmm: if the comparison is a 300MHz Celeron vs. a 366MHz PII, then I'd >have to say thats a difference. Don't forget that a Celeron is about 11% >slower than the equivelant PII, thus making just about a 100MHz difference >in clock speeds. Still, stuffing the 240 with as much ram as possible >will let Window's internal machinations go more unnoticed and help to >hide the speed difference. > Just ignore me tonight - both the TP240s are Celeron chips. It's the Armadas that are Celeron and PII. They're allbeginning toruntogetherinmyhead. Jane From cph Wed Nov 24 21:53:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA30117 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:53:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA21414; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:52:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA21325; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:52:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot010.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA21300; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:52:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot010.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.110 -> pilot010.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:52:09 -0500 Received: from andres (pm561-33.dialip.mich.net [35.9.49.235]) by pilot010.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA29476 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:52:05 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991124215158.009e9100@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:51:58 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19991124214729.00f01cc0@postoffice.worldnet.att.n et> References: <3.0.6.32.19991124213252.009e5ae0@pilot.msu.edu> <3.0.1.32.19991124210613.00f1fd20@postoffice.worldnet.att.n et> <199911250013.TAA09901@amanda.dorsai.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: You mean because its all running togetherin yourmindit isn't perfectly clear whichitemhaswhich attributes andthey'reallmuddledinyourmindnow? I know the feeling! ;-) STeve At 09:47 PM 11/24/1999 -0500, Jane Loyless wrote: >At 09:32 PM 11/24/99 -0500, STeve Andre' wrote: > >>Hmmmm: if the comparison is a 300MHz Celeron vs. a 366MHz PII, then I'd [snip] >>hide the speed difference. >> > >Just ignore me tonight - both the TP240s are Celeron chips. It's the >Armadas that are Celeron and PII. They're allbeginning toruntogetherinmyhead. > >Jane From cph Wed Nov 24 22:02:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA30151 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:02:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22382; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:00:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:00:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22309; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22296; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:00:38 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax4.vramp.net [198.138.8.67]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA01822; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:00:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00a101bf36f1$34cf6ad0$43088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "David Ross" , "Bill Morrow" , "ThinkPad List" References: <383C2224.81EC25B6@icanect.net> <002c01bf36b3$af45db20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:00:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: Dave, > BTW, has anyone heard of/done business with EX/Portable? They showed up in my > pricescan > search with lots of very low prices on older model laptops, including a TP600 > P2-233 for > $1600 that is tempting the heck out of me. There's often several 600s on eBay and the 233 to 266 MHz units all seem to go for around $1K to $1.2K loaded with RAM. The PII 300s go for a lot more, I don't really know why. There's even a BIOS password protected one being offered at http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=205737511 where the seller has the temerity to complain that when he contacted the 800 number displayed on the screen on startup, they declined to give him the password and asked him to return their machine. Obviously he didn't feel obligated to do so. BTW, the bid for the unit is up to $660.00. I hope that it doesn't simply have the BIOS password set but also the Supervisor password, in which case the purchaser is screwed! Regards, James From cph Thu Nov 25 03:55:03 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA31036 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:55:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20728; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:53:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:53:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20596; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:53:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.clinet.fi (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20580; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.clinet.fi (194.100.0.7 -> mail.clinet.fi) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:53:21 -0500 Received: from tp701 (96-166.dyn.clinet.fi [194.100.96.166]) by mail.clinet.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA31276 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:53:17 +0200 Message-Id: <199911250853.KAA31276@mail.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:53:07 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19991124210613.00f1fd20@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 (fwd) X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 at 09:06 PM you, Jane Loyless , said: >I didn't like the TP240, BTW, and IBM's support for NT40 on it sucked. And support for OS/2 is even worse, since there's none at all. Just wondering what's so special in the 570/240 from the point of view of OS/2. I haven't seen the 240 but it appealed to me on paper. What is it you didn't like about it? Is 800x600 usable on a 10.4" screen? (writing this on a 701 and wondering whether you can really cram that many more pixels on a 10.4" screen) Dominique From cph Thu Nov 25 04:14:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA31070 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 04:14:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22621; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 04:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 04:12:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22521; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 04:12:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22508; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 04:12:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 04:12:55 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA05741; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 23:12:44 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <003501bf3725$3de504c0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "James H. E. Maugham" , "Bill Morrow" , "ThinkPad List" References: <383C2224.81EC25B6@icanect.net> <002c01bf36b3$af45db20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> <00a101bf36f1$34cf6ad0$43088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 23:12:44 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: James, > There's often several 600s on eBay and the 233 to 266 MHz units all seem to > go for around $1K to $1.2K loaded with RAM. The PII 300s go for a lot more, > I don't really know why. I would only buy a laptop on ebay if from the seller is a reputable dealer. (I know intellesale sometimes auctions their laptops, and I wouldn't hesitate to buy from them or a similar company at auction, but I'm leery of ebay-only dealers for large-ticket items.) But that's just me. Regards, David R. From cph Thu Nov 25 05:17:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA31235 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 05:17:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA29626; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 05:15:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 05:15:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA28795; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 05:15:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA28663; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 05:15:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (130.133.1.48 -> mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 05:15:15 -0500 Received: by Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from Komma.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (130.133.1.46) with smtp id ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 11:15:13 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 11:15:12 +0100 (MET) From: Christoph Eyrich To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: 10.4" 800*600 - was: ThinkPad 240 on sale... In-Reply-To: <199911250853.KAA31276@mail.clinet.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 25 Nov 1999, Dominique Pivard wrote: > Is 800x600 usable on a 10.4" screen? (writing this > on a 701 and wondering whether you can really cram that many more pixels > on a 10.4" screen) Yes, definitely. It's now something like three years that I'm working on 10.4" 800*600 - no problem at all. Christoph Eyrich From cph Thu Nov 25 06:15:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA31343 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 06:15:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10670; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 06:13:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 06:13:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10549; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 06:13:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10536; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 06:13:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (171.64.14.23 -> smtp2.Stanford.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 06:13:13 -0500 Received: from leland.stanford.edu (banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.66.3.116]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3/L) with ESMTP id DAA12531; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:13:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <383D1A88.9EDD0B19@leland.stanford.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:16:24 -0800 From: Benjamin Koh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christoph Eyrich CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 10.4" 800*600 - was: ThinkPad 240 on sale... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: YMMV. For me when I had the "privilege" of using a HP Omnibook 800CT which also had a 10.4" 800x600 screen, after 1/2 hr my eyes were very tired and I got headaches. The screen was too small for me, and changing back to a desktop removed these symptoms immediately. I had to use the Omnibook several times, and each time I got eye fatigue and headaches. In contrast, I've used my 12.1" 800x600 560X for several hours daily for over a year now, and no such problems have arisen. So test it for yourself before you shell out the cash. Laptops are too personal and expensive to buy sight unseen. Benjamin Christoph Eyrich wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Nov 1999, Dominique Pivard wrote: > > > Is 800x600 usable on a 10.4" screen? (writing this > > on a 701 and wondering whether you can really cram that many more pixels > > on a 10.4" screen) > > Yes, definitely. It's now something like three years that I'm working on > 10.4" 800*600 - no problem at all. > > Christoph Eyrich From cph Thu Nov 25 10:12:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA31969 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:12:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27850; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:02:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:00:50 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27520; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:00:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:00:49 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id JAA11819 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 09:51:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from vip.psychonet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24880; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:28:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from vip.psychonet.net (24.113.61.37 -> cr634166-a.rct1.bc.wave.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:28:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (devel@localhost) by vip.psychonet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA05781 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:28:08 -0800 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:28:07 -0800 (PST) From: Steve To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19991124210613.00f1fd20@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I am wondering how many people on this list happen to have a ThinkPad 240? I have a Thinkpad 240 (as well as several other ThinkPads), it seems barely worthy of the name "ThinkPad"( I am very sorry to say as a very very dedicated ThinkPad fan) The NT support has problems, eg, the harddrive becomes unreachable for a few seconds if you're reading or writing to it when you remove or attach AC power, the same thing happens under linux which leads me to guess there is something wrong with the hardware design. The screen on my ThinkPad 755 is brighter then the screen on the 240(I know they want to conserve power on such a small unit, but I wish it would go a little brighter) Since I installed the latest bios sound no longer works under linux and I can no longer adjust the screen intensity when on battery power. As far as battery life goes I don't find it to be too much of a problem, I get about 1 hour under 98, 1.5 hours under NT and 2 hours if I run linux. I love the form factor, the keyboard is great, I'm just glad my company paid for it, not me. perhaps I've just been spoiled by my Thinkpad 770ed :) What do other people think that own them? On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Jane Loyless wrote: > At 07:13 PM 11/24/99 -0500, John Higgins wrote: > > >> the early 240 is being dumped.. the faster model is a C-366, otherwise > all else is > >> the same.. > >> > >Let's face it, the differnce between a 300 and a 366mhz chip is pretty > >trivial. Makes the lower-end 240 a pretty tasty deal... > > > > Celaron 300 vs PII 366, but you're right - not much performance difference. > > I didn't like the TP240, BTW, and IBM's support for NT40 on it sucked. > > Jane > From cph Thu Nov 25 12:20:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA32401 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:20:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08795; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:16:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:15:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08684; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:15:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out1.euro.apple.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08671; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:15:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out1.euro.apple.com (194.151.19.115 -> mail-out1.euro.apple.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:15:53 -0500 Received: from relay2.euro.apple.com (A17-71-100-30.apple.com [17.71.100.30]) by mail-out1.euro.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07083 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 18:15:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from martini (martini.euro.apple.com [17.69.12.117]) by relay2.euro.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA15632 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 18:15:46 +0100 (MET) From: "Martin Reed" To: Subject: 570 W98, adding NT4 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:14:50 -0000 Message-ID: <000401bf3768$94d867c0$750c4511@martini.euro.apple.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Gentlefolk, I'm waiting for a 570 to arrive with Win98, to which I will then want to add WinNT4. We already have the licence for NT4 so we didn't purchase with NT installed. IBM's site says for the 570 to use the Software Selection CD to install CardWizard (whereas for a 600E you can download CardWizard). Does the 570/W98 system come with this magic CD with the NT version of CardWizard? Would the 600E version work? If not, got any bright ideas please? I've dual booted systems before, although not a 570. Any hints and tips? Many thanks, martin From cph Thu Nov 25 15:20:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA00337 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:20:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22113; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:11:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:10:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22003; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:10:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from box3.pyrrhusoft.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21990; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:10:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from box3.pyrrhusoft.com (204.181.48.76 -> p204.181.48.76.syspac.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:10:44 -0500 Received: (from jones@localhost) by box3.pyrrhusoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id NAA16613; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 13:10:10 -0700 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 13:10:10 -0700 Message-Id: <199911252010.NAA16613@box3.pyrrhusoft.com> From: David Jones To: devel@psychonet.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu List-Unsubscribe: I was interested to read your comments about your TP 240. You mention that you have several other ThinkPads. Is one of them a 701 because this is the closest in form factor? I assume the 240 is designed to be the late nineties version of the 701. I have two 701s and am very happy with them: one runs W95, the other can be booted between NT, OS/2, and Linux. Regards, David Jones ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:28:07 -0800 (PST) > From: Steve > I am wondering how many people on this list happen to have a ThinkPad 240? > I have a Thinkpad 240 (as well as several other ThinkPads), it seems > barely worthy of the name "ThinkPad"( I am very sorry to say as a very > very dedicated ThinkPad fan) > The NT support has problems, eg, the harddrive becomes unreachable for a > few seconds if you're reading or writing to it when you remove or attach > AC > power, the same thing happens under linux which leads me to guess there is > something wrong with the hardware design. > The screen on my ThinkPad 755 is brighter then the screen on the > 240(I know they want to conserve power on such a small unit, but I wish it > would go a little brighter) > Since I installed the latest bios sound no longer works under linux and I > can no longer adjust the screen intensity when on battery power. > As far as battery life goes I don't find it to be too much of a problem, I > get about 1 hour under 98, 1.5 hours under NT and 2 hours if I run linux. > I love the form factor, the keyboard is great, > I'm just glad my company paid for it, not me. > perhaps I've just been spoiled by my Thinkpad 770ed :) > What do other people think that own them? From cph Thu Nov 25 17:58:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA00762 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:58:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04272; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:48:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:47:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04126; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:47:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from f04n07.cac.psu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04113; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:47:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from f04n07.cac.psu.edu (128.118.141.35 -> f04s07.cac.psu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:47:50 -0500 Received: from default (access-isdn1-13.hbg.psu.edu [146.186.228.143]) by f04n07.cac.psu.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA236008 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:47:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199911252247.RAA236008@f04n07.cac.psu.edu> X-Sender: rfm@mail.psu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:47:14 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bob Munzenrider Subject: HELP! TP701 is Breaking down Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: If it ain't broke, don't fix it, etc., but what if it's breaking down? A friend of mine has a TP701, and two of the four rivets on the plastic frame around the LCD screen have popped. Does anyone out there know if this is repair-able? Can the IBM repair shop replace these rivets? How many arms & legs should such a repair cost? BobM Penn State Harrisburg From cph Thu Nov 25 23:11:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA01620 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:11:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14343; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:10:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:09:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14218; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:09:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14204; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:09:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (198.206.134.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:09:09 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-53.gate.net [207.36.212.53]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA17902; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:09:00 -0500 Message-ID: <383E07EF.86FFBD6E@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:09:19 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z References: <199911242133.QAA21711@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: there was a change between the 760 series and the 770 series.. i thinki its an arcitecture thing.. i'm not really sure, buy the timeline is probably more like two years.. while i have not tested it in a 760 machine, i seriously doubt it will work since the 8.1gig, 10gig & 14.1gig are not seen by the bios.. Allan wrote: > Why "less than a year old?" Is it a bios thing? > > OS/2 Warp and NT should have no problem... > > Allan Ballard > > On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:22:02 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: > > >25gig drive works fine in the 770Z.. > >and i imagine in any thinkpad that is less than a year old or > >thereabouts AND will accept a 17mm high HDD... -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Thu Nov 25 23:11:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA01619 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:11:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14472; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:10:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:10:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14375; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:10:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14339; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:10:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (198.206.134.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:10:16 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-53.gate.net [207.36.212.53]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28216; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:10:12 -0500 Message-ID: <383E0837.930FA0C6@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:10:31 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Schneider CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z References: <383C226B.1B715E5B@icanect.net> <383C632D.BA9A39E0@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: easier to drive it down to birger in palm beach and test it in a 770-1AU.. :-) Jim Schneider wrote: > If you send it to me, I will test it in my 770E ;-> > > Bill Morrow wrote: > > > its on the web site, but i would need to send it to birger for him to > > test in his vast array of thinkpad 770's... > > > > my guess is yes until testing proves otherwise.. > > > > Geza Szivos/SIVCO wrote: > > > > > Does it work with the "regular" 770 line too? 770 and 770X ? > > > > > > Do you have it on your web site? > > > > > > Geza > > > > > > Bill Morrow on 11/24/99 08:22:02 AM > > > To: ThinkPad List > > > cc: > > > FaxTo: > > > > > > Subject: 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z > > > > > > 25gig drive works fine in the 770Z.. > > > and i imagine in any thinkpad that is less than a year old or > > > thereabouts AND will accept a 17mm high HDD... > > > > > > be sure to upgrade the bios (except 770ED users) > > > > > > -- > > > Happy trails... > > > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > > > -- > > Happy trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Thu Nov 25 23:13:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA01626 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:13:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14688; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:13:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14608; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14595; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:13:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (198.206.134.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:13:05 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-53.gate.net [207.36.212.53]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA48454; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:13:00 -0500 Message-ID: <383E08DF.85711FA8@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:13:19 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jane Loyless CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 (fwd) References: <3.0.1.32.19991124210613.00f1fd20@postoffice.worldnet.att.n et> <199911250013.TAA09901@amanda.dorsai.org> <3.0.1.32.19991124214729.00f01cc0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: and its early still..! Jane Loyless wrote: > At 09:32 PM 11/24/99 -0500, STeve Andre' wrote: > > >Hmmmm: if the comparison is a 300MHz Celeron vs. a 366MHz PII, then I'd > >have to say thats a difference. Don't forget that a Celeron is about 11% > >slower than the equivelant PII, thus making just about a 100MHz difference > >in clock speeds. Still, stuffing the 240 with as much ram as possible > >will let Window's internal machinations go more unnoticed and help to > >hide the speed difference. > > > > Just ignore me tonight - both the TP240s are Celeron chips. It's the > Armadas that are Celeron and PII. They're allbeginning toruntogetherinmyhead. > > Jane -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Thu Nov 25 23:18:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA01633 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:18:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14883; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:17:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14809; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:17:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14794; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:17:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (198.206.134.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:17:40 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-53.gate.net [207.36.212.53]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA18798; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:17:32 -0500 Message-ID: <383E09EE.B07D881A@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:17:50 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "James H. E. Maugham" CC: David Ross , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 References: <383C2224.81EC25B6@icanect.net> <002c01bf36b3$af45db20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> <00a101bf36f1$34cf6ad0$43088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------AD452FA860535ABAB5498B5E" List-Unsubscribe: --------------AD452FA860535ABAB5498B5E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Amazing is it not..!! selling what APPEARS to be a stol... uhhh... MISappropriated! machine and people are actually bidding on it.. and its up to $1100 now.. "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: > Dave, > > > BTW, has anyone heard of/done business with EX/Portable? They showed up > in my > > pricescan > > search with lots of very low prices on older model laptops, including a > TP600 > > P2-233 for > > $1600 that is tempting the heck out of me. > > There's often several 600s on eBay and the 233 to 266 MHz units all seem to > go for around $1K to $1.2K loaded with RAM. The PII 300s go for a lot more, > I don't really know why. > > There's even a BIOS password protected one being offered at > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=205737511 where the > seller has the temerity to complain that when he contacted the 800 number > displayed on the screen on startup, they declined to give him the password > and asked him to return their machine. Obviously he didn't feel obligated to > do so. > > BTW, the bid for the unit is up to $660.00. I hope that it doesn't simply > have the BIOS password set but also the Supervisor password, in which case > the purchaser is screwed! > > Regards, > > James -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net --------------AD452FA860535ABAB5498B5E Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Amazing is it not..!!
selling what APPEARS to be a stol...  uhhh... MISappropriated! machine and people are actually bidding on it..
and its up to $1100 now..

"James H. E. Maugham" wrote:

Dave,

> BTW, has anyone heard of/done business with EX/Portable?  They showed up
in my
> pricescan
> search with lots of very low prices on older model laptops, including a
TP600
> P2-233 for
> $1600 that is tempting the heck out of me.

There's often several 600s on eBay and the 233 to 266 MHz units all seem to
go for around $1K to $1.2K loaded with RAM. The PII 300s go for a lot more,
I don't really know why.

There's even a BIOS password protected one being offered at
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=205737511 where the
seller has the temerity to complain that when he contacted the 800 number
displayed on the screen on startup, they declined to give him the password
and asked him to return their machine. Obviously he didn't feel obligated to
do so.

BTW, the bid for the unit is up to $660.00. I hope that it doesn't simply
have the BIOS password set but also the Supervisor password, in which case
the purchaser is screwed!

Regards,

James

--
Happy trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
WEB page http://thinkpads.com
e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net
  --------------AD452FA860535ABAB5498B5E-- From cph Thu Nov 25 23:24:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA01640 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:24:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15238; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:23:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:23:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15164; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:23:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15151; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:23:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (198.206.134.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:23:30 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-53.gate.net [207.36.212.53]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA23364; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:23:21 -0500 Message-ID: <383E0B4C.5760B002@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:23:40 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve CC: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 (fwd) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Perhaps this is why there is a newer model and a blow out of the earlier model.. I think there was a review that said the 240 was a bit shy on run time on battery.. Steve wrote: > I am wondering how many people on this list happen to have a ThinkPad 240? > > I have a Thinkpad 240 (as well as several other ThinkPads), it seems > barely worthy of the name "ThinkPad"( I am very sorry to say as a very > very dedicated ThinkPad fan) > > The NT support has problems, eg, the harddrive becomes unreachable for a > few seconds if you're reading or writing to it when you remove or attach > AC > power, the same thing happens under linux which leads me to guess there is > something wrong with the hardware design. > > The screen on my ThinkPad 755 is brighter then the screen on the > 240(I know they want to conserve power on such a small unit, but I wish it > would go a little brighter) > > Since I installed the latest bios sound no longer works under linux and I > can no longer adjust the screen intensity when on battery power. > > As far as battery life goes I don't find it to be too much of a problem, I > get about 1 hour under 98, 1.5 hours under NT and 2 hours if I run linux. > > I love the form factor, the keyboard is great, > I'm just glad my company paid for it, not me. > > perhaps I've just been spoiled by my Thinkpad 770ed :) > > What do other people think that own them? > > On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Jane Loyless wrote: > > > At 07:13 PM 11/24/99 -0500, John Higgins wrote: > > > > >> the early 240 is being dumped.. the faster model is a C-366, otherwise > > all else is > > >> the same.. > > >> > > >Let's face it, the differnce between a 300 and a 366mhz chip is pretty > > >trivial. Makes the lower-end 240 a pretty tasty deal... > > > > > > > Celaron 300 vs PII 366, but you're right - not much performance difference. > > > > I didn't like the TP240, BTW, and IBM's support for NT40 on it sucked. > > > > Jane > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Thu Nov 25 23:31:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA01677 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:31:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15662; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:30:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:30:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15585; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:30:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15572; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:30:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (198.206.134.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:30:17 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-53.gate.net [207.36.212.53]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA48016; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:30:09 -0500 Message-ID: <383E0CE4.BB579A1E@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:30:29 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dominique Pivard CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 (fwd) References: <199911250853.KAA31276@mail.clinet.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Dominique... remember that one of the 755CX models had 10.4 inch SVGA display.. Dominique Pivard wrote: > On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 at 09:06 PM you, Jane Loyless , > said: > > >I didn't like the TP240, BTW, and IBM's support for NT40 on it sucked. > > And support for OS/2 is even worse, since there's none at all. Just > wondering what's so special in the 570/240 from the point of view of OS/2. > > I haven't seen the 240 but it appealed to me on paper. What is it you > didn't like about it? Is 800x600 usable on a 10.4" screen? (writing this > on a 701 and wondering whether you can really cram that many more pixels > on a 10.4" screen) > > Dominique -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Thu Nov 25 23:36:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA01690 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:36:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15931; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:35:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:35:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15839; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:35:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15826; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:35:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (198.206.134.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:35:20 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-53.gate.net [207.36.212.53]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA50978; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:35:08 -0500 Message-ID: <383E0E0F.9CB5674C@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:35:27 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Ross CC: "James H. E. Maugham" , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 References: <383C2224.81EC25B6@icanect.net> <002c01bf36b3$af45db20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> <00a101bf36f1$34cf6ad0$43088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <003501bf3725$3de504c0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I must admit to buying from e-bay sellers on several occasions.. on TWO of these, the seller, who was to send the machine, COD, fouled up and sent it in the 'clear'.. so, in spite of that 600 with the password, there ARE honest and trustworthy people there, but there are also more than a few who I would not trust and a few who are so, uhh.. arrogant about 5000 positive feedbacks for 25 cent baseball cards that they want a buyer to send $3k up front for a $4k machine.. its just a bit too wobbly..! :-) David Ross wrote: > James, > > > There's often several 600s on eBay and the 233 to 266 MHz units all seem to > > go for around $1K to $1.2K loaded with RAM. The PII 300s go for a lot more, > > I don't really know why. > > I would only buy a laptop on ebay if from the seller is a reputable dealer. > (I know intellesale sometimes auctions their laptops, and I wouldn't hesitate > to buy from them or a similar company at auction, but I'm > leery of ebay-only dealers for large-ticket items.) But that's just me. > > Regards, > David R. -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Thu Nov 25 23:41:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA01698 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:41:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16153; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:40:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:39:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16080; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:39:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16067; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:39:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (198.206.134.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:39:54 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-53.gate.net [207.36.212.53]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA52118; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:39:50 -0500 Message-ID: <383E0F29.8C6CB381@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:40:09 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Munzenrider CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: HELP! TP701 is Breaking down References: <199911252247.RAA236008@f04n07.cac.psu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: there are no rivets that i know of where you state.. are you sure these are not screws..?? its repairable..! for easy serve to do it the cost would be excessive unless the policy has changed to one that allows them to swap parts of the top rather than the entire top assembly.. Bob Munzenrider wrote: > If it ain't broke, don't fix it, etc., but what if it's breaking down? > > A friend of mine has a TP701, and two of the four rivets on the plastic > frame around the LCD screen have popped. Does anyone out there know if this > is repair-able? Can the IBM repair shop replace these rivets? How many > arms & legs should such a repair cost? > > BobM > Penn State Harrisburg -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Fri Nov 26 00:00:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA01736 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:00:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16928; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:59:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16852; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:59:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from f04n07.cac.psu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16838; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:59:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from f04n07.cac.psu.edu (128.118.141.35 -> f04s07.cac.psu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:59:16 -0500 Received: from default (access-isdn1-20.hbg.psu.edu [146.186.228.150]) by f04n07.cac.psu.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA50352; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:59:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199911260459.XAA50352@f04n07.cac.psu.edu> X-Sender: rfm@mail.psu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:58:29 -0500 To: Bill Morrow From: Bob Munzenrider Subject: Re: HELP! TP701 is Breaking down Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <383E0F29.8C6CB381@icanect.net> References: <199911252247.RAA236008@f04n07.cac.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Bill - I'm looking at the 4 corners of the plastic frame around my 701 screen even as I write. (My 701 screen is OK) Maybe those little doo-hickies ARE screws & not rivets. Hmmmm. Now I'm looking with a magnifying glass.... By golly, maybe those ARE little screws! I can see a star-like pattern inside the indentations on the 4 screws around my screen. If not IBM shop (??? Easy Serve ???), where could I have him send his machine for repair? Or where could I get my hands on some of those little screws and an appropriate screwdriver? Or maybe I should have him take his machine to the tech guys at school and see if they can get the parts. Thanks! BobM Penn State Harrisburg At 11:40 PM 11/25/1999 -0500, you wrote: >there are no rivets that i know of where you state.. >are you sure these are not screws..?? > >its repairable..! > >for easy serve to do it the cost would be excessive unless the policy has >changed to one that allows them to swap parts of the top rather than the entire >top assembly.. > >Bob Munzenrider wrote: > >> If it ain't broke, don't fix it, etc., but what if it's breaking down? >> >> A friend of mine has a TP701, and two of the four rivets on the plastic >> frame around the LCD screen have popped. Does anyone out there know if this >> is repair-able? Can the IBM repair shop replace these rivets? How many >> arms & legs should such a repair cost? >> >> BobM >> Penn State Harrisburg > >-- >Happy trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) >WEB page http://thinkpads.com >e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > From cph Fri Nov 26 00:47:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA01837 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:47:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19090; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:46:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:46:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18905; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:46:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18892; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:46:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:46:30 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.13.86]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991126054627.GEBY11314@compaq>; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 05:46:27 +0000 Message-ID: <383E48B8.13C3@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:45:44 -0800 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Morrow CC: "James H. E. Maugham" , David Ross , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 References: <383C2224.81EC25B6@icanect.net> <002c01bf36b3$af45db20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> <00a101bf36f1$34cf6ad0$43088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <383E09EE.B07D881A@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I recently had a Toshiba Tecra with a metal "security" tag on the bottom. It stated an 800 number to call if you "found" the laptop, and that the tag could not be removed. Of course I removed the tag, and underneath there was a type of "tape" emblazoned with the words: STOLEN PROPERTY CALL 1-800-STOLEN PROPERTY (or some such, I don't remember the number). Fact is, I bought the machine wth the box, manuals and all the goodies. I called Toshiba, and the original registered owner is the guy I bought it from!! So, this was some stupid anti-theft device, but did not at all mean the laptop was stolen. It was stupid, because how can you resell it with something like that on it? Bottom line, the one on ebay may not be stolen - some folks have a password set up with that logo telling you to call the number, because they bought that service from someone. OF course, if you call the number, they are not going to give you the password! I do think the buyer is screwed, but I question whether the machine is stolen - I would not just assume. Bill Morrow wrote: > > Amazing is it not..!! > selling what APPEARS to be a stol... uhhh... MISappropriated! machine > and people are actually bidding on it.. > and its up to $1100 now.. > > "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: > > Dave, > > > BTW, has anyone heard of/done business with EX/Portable? > They showed up > in my > > pricescan > > search with lots of very low prices on older model > laptops, including a > TP600 > > P2-233 for > > $1600 that is tempting the heck out of me. > > There's often several 600s on eBay and the 233 to 266 MHz > units all seem to > go for around $1K to $1.2K loaded with RAM. The PII 300s go > for a lot more, > I don't really know why. > > There's even a BIOS password protected one being offered at > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=205737511 > where the > seller has the temerity to complain that when he contacted > the 800 number > displayed on the screen on startup, they declined to give > him the password > and asked him to return their machine. Obviously he didn't > feel obligated to > do so. > > BTW, the bid for the unit is up to $660.00. I hope that it > doesn't simply > have the BIOS password set but also the Supervisor password, > in which case > the purchaser is screwed! > > Regards, > > James > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > From cph Fri Nov 26 00:54:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA01861 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:54:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19299; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:53:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:53:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19220; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:53:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19203; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:53:16 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA08494 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 19:53:12 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <005301bf37d2$88368f00$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "ThinkPad List" References: <383C2224.81EC25B6@icanect.net> <002c01bf36b3$af45db20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> <00a101bf36f1$34cf6ad0$43088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <383E09EE.B07D881A@icanect.net> <383E48B8.13C3@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 19:53:10 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > I do think the buyer is screwed, but I question whether the machine is > stolen - I would not just assume. The seller seems to be a dealer, so likely is not actually a thief per se; perhaps a fence:-) - David R. From cph Fri Nov 26 00:56:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA01868 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:56:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19513; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:55:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:55:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19426; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19413; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:55:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:55:48 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.13.86]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991126055546.GFZC11314@compaq>; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 05:55:46 +0000 Message-ID: <383E4AE8.2C0C@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:55:04 -0800 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Ross CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 References: <383C2224.81EC25B6@icanect.net> <002c01bf36b3$af45db20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> <00a101bf36f1$34cf6ad0$43088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <383E09EE.B07D881A@icanect.net> <383E48B8.13C3@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> <005301bf37d2$88368f00$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: He may have gotten stuck wtih it. I don't think most dealers would deliberately go where he seems to have gone. David Ross wrote: > > > I do think the buyer is screwed, but I question whether the machine is > > stolen - I would not just assume. > > The seller seems to be a dealer, so likely is not actually a thief per se; > perhaps a fence:-) > > - David R. From cph Fri Nov 26 01:59:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA01989 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 01:59:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20927; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 01:57:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 01:57:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20845; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 01:57:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.clinet.fi (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20831; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 01:57:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.clinet.fi (194.100.0.7 -> mail.clinet.fi) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 01:57:11 -0500 Received: from tp701 (96-177.dyn.clinet.fi [194.100.96.177]) by mail.clinet.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA28116 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:57:08 +0200 Message-Id: <199911260657.IAA28116@mail.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:57:36 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <383E0CE4.BB579A1E@icanect.net> Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 (fwd) X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 List-Unsubscribe: Bill, I believe it can be done, even though I've never had or seen a 755CX (Emanuel Brown even told me privately that his Sony VAIO 505VE has a 10.4" XGA display...). The question is: is it usable, especially for someone nearing middle age like me. I'm very comfortable with 640x400 on my TP701, 800x600 on my TP560 and 1024x768 on my ViewSonic VPA150. Just wondering what SVGA feels like on a 10.4", especially over a longer period of time. In any case, I've decided I won't ever go back to CRT's, TFT's are so much nicer. On Thu, 25 Nov 1999 at 11:30 PM you, Bill Morrow , said: >remember that one of the 755CX models had 10.4 inch SVGA display.. From cph Fri Nov 26 08:16:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA02860 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:16:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10699; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:15:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:14:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10453; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:14:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10440; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:14:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:14:05 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax25.vramp.net [198.138.8.88]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA09237; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:13:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <028301bf3810$208ae930$43088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "David Ross" Cc: "ThinkPad List" References: <383C2224.81EC25B6@icanect.net> <002c01bf36b3$af45db20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> <00a101bf36f1$34cf6ad0$43088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <383E09EE.B07D881A@icanect.net> <383E48B8.13C3@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> <005301bf37d2$88368f00$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> <383E4AE8.2C0C@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:14:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: > He may have gotten stuck wtih it. I don't think most dealers would > deliberately go where he seems to have gone. We've received donated units on several occasions that were password protected and that I ultimately had to clear the password from. Usually it's as simple as calling the donor and getting the password, but sometimes they would pass back the word that they had no record of same, in which case it was time to get out the bones and incantations. In every instance, there was no question that the donor was the true owner of the unit and most of the time it was a case of an ex-employee having set a password and not recorded it with the powers that be, sometimes as a means of "getting even". This case with the dealer just seems a mite shady to me. He clearly stated that he contacted the number displayed by the unit on startup and was asked to return the machine, something he obviously declined to do. Had he acquired the unit by legitimate means, there would have been no difficulty in obtaining the password IMHO. The fact that he was asked to return the unit gives the appearance, at least to me, that it was obtained from a third party who had gotten it without the knowledge of the true owner. Regards, James From cph Fri Nov 26 09:56:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA03078 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 09:56:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13135; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 09:53:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 09:52:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13031; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 09:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13018; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 09:52:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (216.98.165.6) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 09:52:34 -0500 Received: by BIGRED with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:54:48 -0600 Message-ID: <195C527E2345D311A97C009027856AB809588E@BIGRED> From: Greg Langham To: "'Martin Reed'" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: 570 W98, adding NT4 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:54:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I'm sure there are reasons to use CardWizard (i.e. hot unplugging, plugging, hibernation, etc.) We bought a 570 here at the office and did exactly what you want to do - bought the machine with 98 then installed NT. It has worked great. FWIW, we are just using the native NT PC Card services without difficulty. This is for a 3COM 10/100 NIC (not Cardbus). NT support on the 570 has been very good, including the screwy WinModem. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Martin Reed [mailto:mreed@apple.com] Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 11:15 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 570 W98, adding NT4 Gentlefolk, I'm waiting for a 570 to arrive with Win98, to which I will then want to add WinNT4. We already have the licence for NT4 so we didn't purchase with NT installed. IBM's site says for the 570 to use the Software Selection CD to install CardWizard (whereas for a 600E you can download CardWizard). Does the 570/W98 system come with this magic CD with the NT version of CardWizard? Would the 600E version work? If not, got any bright ideas please? I've dual booted systems before, although not a 570. Any hints and tips? Many thanks, martin From cph Fri Nov 26 11:06:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA03236 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:06:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15360; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:04:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:02:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15258; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:02:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15244; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:02:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (206.31.56.7 -> main.ismi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:02:35 -0500 Received: from denhall (tc1-30.ismi.net [208.171.72.35]) by main.ismi.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id LAA21034 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:02:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000201bf3830$548d5f40$2348abd0@denhall> From: "Denis Hall" To: Subject: STOP Tags on laptops....more info... Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 10:58:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hi Bruce, et. al., ..... I have a little experience with those "S.T.O.P." tags, and have come to believe that they're actually OK ! I've received off-lease units with the tags on them, and called the company (Security Tracking of Office Property) in Connecticut, and was pleasantly surprised at their assistance. They were able to check if the unit I was reselling was reported as STOLEN, and also offer a free 1-year re-registration to the new owner free of charge. They offer lifetime coverage for only $9.00 ! Sure, this is not necessarily a deterrent to a determined thief longing for your laptop, but if the tag is already there, I see it as a nice little benefit. And, with the permanent marking left if someone tries to remove the plate, I think it deters SOME potential thieves, so that's OK with me. The telephone # for the company is 1-800-488-STOP for anyone interested. And no, I do not have any "Interest" in the company... Have a Great Day, Denis Hall, Michigan 810.229.2881 From cph Fri Nov 26 11:55:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA03380 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:55:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17276; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:53:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:53:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17202; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out1.euro.apple.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17189; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out1.euro.apple.com (194.151.19.115 -> mail-out1.euro.apple.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:53:14 -0500 Received: from relay1.euro.apple.com (A17-71-100-20.apple.com [17.71.100.20]) by mail-out1.euro.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04960; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:53:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from martini (martini.euro.apple.com [17.69.12.117]) by relay1.euro.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA29538; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:53:03 +0100 (MET) From: "Martin Reed" To: "Greg Langham" , Subject: RE: 570 W98, adding NT4 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 16:51:08 -0000 Message-ID: <002e01bf382e$6f912ee0$750c4511@martini.euro.apple.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-reply-to: <195C527E2345D311A97C009027856AB809588E@BIGRED> List-Unsubscribe: Greg, > ... we are just using the native NT PC Card services without difficulty. Thanks for that confidence booster :-). I've subsequently been given a contact at IBM who reckons that all 570 come with the mystery Software Selection CD, and that this will contain CardWizard for NT. Anyone care to confirm or deny that from inspection of an actual CD, please? thanks martin From cph Fri Nov 26 14:46:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA04211 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:46:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23042; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:46:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:45:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22945; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:45:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22870; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:45:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (24.2.1.66 -> ha1.rdc1.il.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:45:05 -0500 Received: from randolph ([24.10.171.176]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19991126194459.KUSA8758.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@randolph> for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:44:59 -0800 From: "Richard Robbins" To: Subject: Thinkpad 240 Replacement Battery Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 13:44:20 -0600 Message-ID: <000001bf3846$a271dae0$c9fbb7c6@tinker.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: I'm looking to purchase a second lithium ion battery for my ThinkPad 240. I've found repeated listings for IBM's longer lasting battery, part number 2K6580. This is larger and heavier than the one that comes standard with the computer. I'm looking to purchase the part that comes standard with the computer. I think that the part number I'm looking for is something like 2K6606 or 2K6608. Can anyone point me in the right direction? -- Rich From cph Fri Nov 26 14:55:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA04272 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:55:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23412; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:54:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:54:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23334; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:54:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23302; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:54:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (24.2.1.66 -> ha1.rdc1.il.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:54:19 -0500 Received: from randolph ([24.10.171.176]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19991126195411.KWCA8758.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@randolph> for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:54:11 -0800 From: "Richard Robbins" To: Subject: Thinkpad i Series 1480 Color Covers Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 13:53:32 -0600 Message-ID: <000101bf3847$eb2b9a40$c9fbb7c6@tinker.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone know where I can purchase the color covers that were advertised as being available for the Thinkpad i Series 1480? IBM does not make the covers. -- Rich From cph Fri Nov 26 15:52:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA04553 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:52:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25338; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:48:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:48:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25264; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:48:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot004.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25251; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot004.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.104 -> pilot004.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:48:15 -0500 Received: from andres (port44.annarbor01.tir.com [216.40.148.183]) by pilot004.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA11294 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:48:11 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991126154804.009ed8e0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:48:04 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Thinkpad i Series 1480 Color Covers In-Reply-To: <000101bf3847$eb2b9a40$c9fbb7c6@tinker.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: In looking around, it seems that the covers will cost $29.99. You can get them, I think, by calling 1-888-SHOP-IBM ext. 7018. I don't think they're quite ready yet, as availability is listed as mid-December. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 01:53 PM 11/26/1999 -0600, Richard Robbins wrote: >Does anyone know where I can purchase the color covers that were advertised >as being available for the Thinkpad i Series 1480? IBM does not make the >covers. > >-- Rich From cph Fri Nov 26 17:41:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA05039 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:41:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28631; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:40:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:40:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28525; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28512; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:40:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:40:19 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA10935 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 12:40:15 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <003701bf385f$374858c0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Modem question, and source for very inexpensive PC cards Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 12:40:16 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: On my recommendation, a colleague visiting the US from the UK recently bought a 3Com Megahertz 56k v.90 Global PC Card Modem for his ThinkPad. I recommended this not because I actually knew the modem, but because (a) he wanted something he could use in several countries (hence the 'global'), (b) 3Com has a good reputation, and (c) I found an amazingly cheap source for it (see below). Unfortunately, he has not been getting good connect speeds with it, never better than 24.4, whereas an external modem on the same machine and line consistently gets 33.6 and often more. Any suggestions, or is this just a cheesy modem? I know it is a winmodem, should that make this kind of difference on a P133 machine? BTW, the source was http://www.centrix-intl.com/ , which has some astounding prices on PC cards (mainly OEM pulls, but still...). I haven't bought anything from them myself, but Nigel seemed satisfied. Thanks for help on the connect speed thing. Regards, David R. From cph Fri Nov 26 19:23:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA05761 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:23:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01506; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:22:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:21:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01409; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:21:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01396; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (199.175.106.4 -> mail.islandnet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:21:46 -0500 Received: from 139-142-112-190.islandnet.com [139.142.112.190] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m11rVcR-0006dxC for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 16:21:39 -0800 (PST) From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: penzance@icanect.net Cc: rfm@psu.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: HELP! TP701 is Breaking down Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 16:06:50 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <199911252247.RAA236008@f04n07.cac.psu.edu> <383E0F29.8C6CB381@icanect.net> In-Reply-To: <383E0F29.8C6CB381@icanect.net> Lines: 31 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: >there are no rivets that i know of where you state.. >are you sure these are not screws..?? They are screws. On my 701, a TORX #6 screwdriver (the same one you need for the HD caddy) will do the job. However, if they are "popped", then I'm guessing that the screen has sustained some sort of impact, and the threads of the screws, but more likely the threads of what is holding them on, may be stripped. This also does not make home repair impossible. > >its repairable..! > >for easy serve to do it the cost would be excessive unless the policy has >changed to one that allows them to swap parts of the top rather than the entire >top assembly.. > >Bob Munzenrider wrote: > >> If it ain't broke, don't fix it, etc., but what if it's breaking down? >> >> A friend of mine has a TP701, and two of the four rivets on the plastic >> frame around the LCD screen have popped. Does anyone out there know if this >> is repair-able? Can the IBM repair shop replace these rivets? How many >> arms & legs should such a repair cost? >> -- cheers Jonathan From cph Fri Nov 26 22:57:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA06459 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 22:57:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07998; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 22:56:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 22:55:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07888; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 22:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07875; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 22:55:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.19 -> cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 22:55:48 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer - 63.22.252.109 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:55:49 -0800 Message-ID: <002101bf388b$86b6cdc0$6fccfea9@oemcomputer> From: "Brad Burean" To: Subject: 701c Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 21:57:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: I'm looking for a really nice 701c, NOT cs. 16 megs+ ram and 720+ hd. if you have one in great shape please let me know. Thanks. From cph Fri Nov 26 23:23:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA06535 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:23:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08819; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:23:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:22:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08713; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:22:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from f04n07.cac.psu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08700; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:22:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from f04n07.cac.psu.edu (128.118.141.35 -> f04s07.cac.psu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:22:51 -0500 Received: from default (access-isdn1-19.hbg.psu.edu [146.186.228.149]) by f04n07.cac.psu.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA44574 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:22:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199911270422.XAA44574@f04n07.cac.psu.edu> X-Sender: rfm@mail.psu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:22:19 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bob Munzenrider Subject: Re: HELP! TP701 is Breaking down Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Jonathan - - I attempted to send this reply to you but for some reason your server won't accept email from my server! ??? My reply to you: Good point! I had been wondering about same myself. Onliest two possibilities I have been able to envision is that the screws either (1) worked loose from heat expansion/flexing/impacts, or (2) the threads are stripped - either on the screws themselves or in the screw-holes (whatever you call these). Thanks. BobM At 04:06 PM 11/26/1999 -0800, you wrote: >>there are no rivets that i know of where you state.. >>are you sure these are not screws..?? > >They are screws. On my 701, a TORX #6 screwdriver (the same >one you need for the HD caddy) will do the job. However, if >they are "popped", then I'm guessing that the screen has >sustained some sort of impact, and the threads of the screws, >but more likely the threads of what is holding them on, may be >stripped. This also does not make home repair impossible. > cheers Jonathan From cph Fri Nov 26 23:47:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA06613 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:47:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09706; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:45:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:45:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09627; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:45:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09613; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:45:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:45:39 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA11949; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 18:45:34 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000b01bf3892$409ee8c0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: , "Bob Munzenrider" References: <199911270422.XAA44574@f04n07.cac.psu.edu> Subject: Re: HELP! TP701 is Breaking down Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 18:45:36 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > Good point! I had been wondering about same myself. Onliest two > possibilities I have been able to envision is that the screws either (1) > worked loose from heat expansion/flexing/impacts, or (2) the threads are > stripped - either on the screws themselves or in the screw-holes (whatever > you call these). Probably (1). I have to tighten the screws on my 560 fairly regularly (adding threadlock compound has helped a bit). Steel on plastic is not a high-friction interface, and these machines do flex and vibrate a lot as part of their nature. - David R. From cph Sat Nov 27 03:52:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA07199 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 03:52:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17795; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 03:52:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 03:51:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17717; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 03:51:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17701; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 03:51:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 03:51:29 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p24.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.39]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA14441; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 00:51:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911270851.AAA14441@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "David Ross" Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 00:53:37 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Modem question, and source for very inexpensive PC cards List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 12:40:16 -1000, David Ross wrote: >Any suggestions, or is this just a cheesy modem? I know it is a winmodem, >should that make this kind of difference on a P133 machine? > It's typical of Winmodems not to get very good connection. Remember that it is software based. I've seen so many cases at work (I work for a large ISP) where Winmodems don't perform as well as their hardware counterparts, even a Winmodem on a PII or PIII, and a hardware on say a slower machine. Has your friend tried any modem strings? Paul From cph Sat Nov 27 04:46:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA07365 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 04:45:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20214; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 04:44:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 04:44:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20122; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 04:44:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20109; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 04:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 04:44:41 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA12717; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:44:35 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001101bf38bc$0691f8a0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" References: <199911270851.AAA14441@stevie.loop.com> Subject: Re: Modem question, and source for very inexpensive PC cards Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:44:38 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Me: > >Any suggestions, or is this just a cheesy modem? I know it is a winmodem, > >should that make this kind of difference on a P133 machine? Paul: > It's typical of Winmodems not to get very good connection. Remember that it is > software based. I don't see why the software basis should make so much a difference for the connection. If the windows box is not doing anything else but servicing Windows and the connection, the amount of processing power committed to the modem should be more than adequate on any decent modern machine - at least enough to get to 33.6K. (I could imagine degradation if the modem is used for heavy web surfing, of course, since then there's extra software for the CPU to run.) I did find reviews of this card (before I recommended it), none of which indicated that it was quite this bad. > Has your friend tried any modem strings? Likely only the default, and - since I don't have this modem - I don't know what that default is. - David R. From cph Sat Nov 27 09:46:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA08083 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:46:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04246; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:45:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:44:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04121; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:44:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04108; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:44:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:44:45 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax38.vramp.net [198.138.8.101]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA27216; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:44:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <006801bf38e5$ea317800$65088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "David Ross" , "ThinkPad List" References: <003701bf385f$374858c0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Modem question, and source for very inexpensive PC cards Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:44:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: "David Ross" wrote: > On my recommendation, a colleague visiting the US from the UK recently bought > a 3Com Megahertz 56k v.90 Global PC Card Modem for his ThinkPad. I recommended > this not because I actually knew the modem, but because (a) he wanted > something he could use in several countries (hence the 'global'), (b) 3Com has > a good reputation, and (c) I found an amazingly cheap source for it (see > below). Unfortunately, he has not been getting good connect speeds with it, > never better than 24.4, > whereas an external modem on the same machine and line consistently gets 33.6 > and often more. > Any suggestions, or is this just a cheesy modem? I know it is a winmodem, > should that make this kind of difference on a P133 machine? It's a cheesy modem. This is true of ALL the Winmodems unfortunately. In all the years Winmodems have been available I don't recall ever seeing an email that said "Hey, my new Winmodem works great!". One would certainly think that a late model Thinkpad would be happy with one installed and the CPU would have more than enough HP to share the modem tasks along with the basic desktop functions. The problem is that individual configurations are apt to have all sorts of programs running in the background that make random calls on the CPU and cause the Winmodem process to deteriorate. A lack of memory exacerbates the condition. Got Instant Messenger running? How about ICQ? VirusScan? Etc., etc. All pull down performance until there is little left for the modem. The long and short of it is, get a REAL modem and you'll get the best performance and biggest bang for your buck. My suggestion to your friend would be to find someone willing to buy the Winmodem and use the proceeds to get something better. I'm using a Xircom Realport 10/100 + 56K Globalaccess card in my P266 TP600 and have no difficulties connecting at max. speed (49.3K normally) here in the US or in the UK and Belgium, my most frequently visited EU locations. Regards, James From cph Sat Nov 27 12:09:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA08453 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:09:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08038; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:08:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:06:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07908; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:06:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.clinet.fi (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07895; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:06:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.clinet.fi (194.100.0.7 -> mail.clinet.fi) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:06:21 -0500 Received: from TP560 (96-144.dyn.clinet.fi [194.100.96.144]) by mail.clinet.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA20378 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:06:14 +0200 Message-Id: <199911271706.TAA20378@mail.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:05:34 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: comments about 87-Key Space Saver II Keyboard? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.01 (Unregistered) List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I'm looking for a stand-alone keyboard with the same "look & feel" as my TP560's keyboard, preferably with a built-in trackpoint. I look at the Thinkpad accessories listed at http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/accessories/thinkpad/index.html and I found a "87-Key Space Saver II Keyboard" (item 28L3644). Unfortunately, they didn't bother to include a picture of the said keyboard. Even if I could see a picture, I'd like to have comments from actual users. So, is there anyone who can share her/his experience of the keyboard? Thanks, Dominique From cph Sat Nov 27 17:16:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA09394 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:16:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15950; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:15:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:13:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15821; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15806; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:13:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:13:48 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA14038; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:13:34 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000b01bf3924$a72e52a0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "James H. E. Maugham" , "ThinkPad List" References: <003701bf385f$374858c0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> <006801bf38e5$ea317800$65088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> Subject: Re: Modem question, and source for very inexpensive PC cards Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:13:35 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > Got Instant Messenger running? How about ICQ? VirusScan? Etc., etc. All pull > down performance until there is little left for the modem. This is a connect issue, not a throughput issue. I believe he is trying using a terminal program (not a PPP connection) with nothing else running in the background. I fully understand why a winmodem might fall down on throughput, but I don't understand why the connect speed would be so low. The worst of the reviews I saw for this one had it connecting at 39.4K or some such - not stellar for a 56K, but my colleague would be perfectly happy with this, possibly even with 33.6. I did suggest that he get a non-win modem (this one was not at the top of my recommend list), but he wanted to save some money. > get something better. I'm using a Xircom Realport 10/100 + 56K Globalaccess This was my first recommendation (the same dealer had this one for $100). - David R. From cph Sat Nov 27 17:45:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA09494 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:45:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16569; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:44:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:43:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16486; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:43:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from wodc7mr3.ffx.ops.us.uu.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16473; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from wodc7mr3.ffx.ops.us.uu.net (192.48.96.19 -> wodc7mr3.ffx.ops.us.uu.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:43:16 -0500 Received: from cheatriver.com by wodc7mr3.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: 1Cust131.tnt2.morristown2.nj.da.uu.net [63.15.223.131]) id QQhrex05976 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:48:28 GMT Message-ID: <38405EAB.73AD19F@cheatriver.com> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:43:55 -0500 From: Kathe Robin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: System Program Service Diskette for 760ED? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Can anyone tell me where I might be able to download the file containing the "System Program Service Diskette", or be able to send me a copy, for an ThinkPAD 760ED (9546-U9A)? Thanks in advance, Max ------------------------------------------------------- email: m_robin@cheatriver.com smail: Max S. Robin, P.E. Cheat River Engineering Inc. 23 Richwood Place / P. O. Box 289 Denville, NJ 07834 - 0289 voice: 973 - 627 - 5895 fax: 973 - 627 - 5460 ------------------------------------------------------- From cph Sat Nov 27 17:49:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA09515 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:49:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16851; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:47:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16764; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:47:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from wodc7mr3.ffx.ops.us.uu.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16751; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:47:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from wodc7mr3.ffx.ops.us.uu.net (192.48.96.19 -> wodc7mr3.ffx.ops.us.uu.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:47:24 -0500 Received: from cheatriver.com by wodc7mr3.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: 1Cust131.tnt2.morristown2.nj.da.uu.net [63.15.223.131]) id QQhrex13060 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:52:37 GMT Message-ID: <38405FA4.9102C2CF@cheatriver.com> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:48:05 -0500 From: Kathe Robin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Fwd:Windows NT TP Utilities Diskette for 760ED?] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Can anyone tell me where I might be able to download the file containing the "Windows NT Thinkpad Utilities Diskette", or be able to send me a copy, for a ThinkPAD 760ED (9546-U9A)? Thanks in advance, Max ------------------------------------------------------- email: m_robin@cheatriver.com smail: Max S. Robin, P.E. Cheat River Engineering Inc. 23 Richwood Place / P. O. Box 289 Denville, NJ 07834 - 0289 voice: 973 - 627 - 5895 fax: 973 - 627 - 5460 ------------------------------------------------------- From cph Sat Nov 27 18:00:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA09575 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:00:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17265; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:59:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:58:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17170; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:58:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17155; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:58:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:58:11 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.12.240]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991127225809.RFE11314@compaq>; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:58:09 +0000 Message-ID: <38408C08.1FB6@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:57:28 -0800 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kathe Robin CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: System Program Service Diskette for 760ED? References: <38405EAB.73AD19F@cheatriver.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Just go to www.ibm.com, go to thinkpad support, and enter your type and model number. CAUTION: You have the XGA screen it is a different BIOS from the SVGA screen. Make sure to use the proper file! Kathe Robin wrote: > > Can anyone tell me where I might be able to download the file containing > the "System Program Service Diskette", or be able to send me a copy, for > an ThinkPAD 760ED (9546-U9A)? > > Thanks in advance, > > Max > ------------------------------------------------------- > email: m_robin@cheatriver.com > > smail: Max S. Robin, P.E. > Cheat River Engineering Inc. > 23 Richwood Place / P. O. Box 289 > Denville, NJ 07834 - 0289 > > voice: 973 - 627 - 5895 fax: 973 - 627 - 5460 > ------------------------------------------------------- From cph Sat Nov 27 18:11:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA09611 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:11:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17682; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:10:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:08:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17508; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:08:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17495; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:08:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:08:41 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax49.vramp.net [198.138.8.112]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA22858; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:08:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00ea01bf392c$5a7ba4a0$65088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Kathe Robin" , References: <38405FA4.9102C2CF@cheatriver.com> Subject: Re: Fwd:Windows NT TP Utilities Diskette for 760ED?] Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:08:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: From: "Kathe Robin" wrote: > Can anyone tell me where I might be able to download the file containing > the "Windows NT Thinkpad Utilities Diskette", or be able to send me a > copy, for a ThinkPAD 760ED (9546-U9A)? ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles/uttp1wnt.exe From cph Sat Nov 27 18:11:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA09615 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:11:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17752; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:10:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:09:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17597; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:09:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17584; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:09:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:09:50 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax49.vramp.net [198.138.8.112]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA22960; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:09:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00f001bf392c$89f767a0$65088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Kathe Robin" , References: <38405EAB.73AD19F@cheatriver.com> Subject: Re: System Program Service Diskette for 760ED? Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:10:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: "Kathe Robin" wrote: > Can anyone tell me where I might be able to download the file containing > the "System Program Service Diskette", or be able to send me a copy, for > an ThinkPAD 760ED (9546-U9A)? ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles/spsdhx59.exe From cph Sat Nov 27 20:00:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA09942 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:00:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20746; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:59:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:59:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20669; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:59:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot022.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20654; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:59:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot022.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.122 -> pilot022.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:59:03 -0500 Received: from andres (pm455-04.dialip.mich.net [198.110.21.14]) by pilot022.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA32556 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:59:00 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991127195902.009eb320@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:59:02 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads In-Reply-To: <199911270422.XAA44574@f04n07.cac.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Whats the status of Win2K on ThinkPads? I'm pretty sure I've seen some comments from beta testing folks on this list before. In general, I'd like to know how it interacts with ThinkPads, and in general--how stable it is, how much of a resource hog, etc. Thanks! --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu From cph Sat Nov 27 20:06:30 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA09968 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:06:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21117; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:05:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:05:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21034; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:05:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21021; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:05:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (165.87.194.243 -> out5.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:05:04 -0500 Received: from basterfield.com ([139.92.215.202]) by prserv.net (out5) with SMTP id <1999112801050024304frob1e>; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:05:01 +0000 Message-ID: <38407F3E.97A417C6@basterfield.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:02:54 +0000 From: Daniel Basterfield Organization: My middle name! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dominique Pivard CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: comments about 87-Key Space Saver II Keyboard? References: <199911271706.TAA20378@mail.clinet.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Space saver keyboard, eh? Unless they've suddenly changed them, these have been kicking around for years under different names and part numbers, in cream or black. I thought they all had 84/85 keys, though. I have an 85-key one, which came with my PS/2 E, and it's great. It's basically full-size keys, in a slightly compressed normal keyboard layout, without the numeric pad (not even embedded) - you can plug in an accompanying keypad to a connector on the keyboard. The keys are shallow, like on a ThinkPad, and have about the same travel, with a satisfying 'clack' noise. The pointer is a TrackPoint II, in the usual location, with the two buttons set into the front edge of the keyboard. The biggest limitation you will see as a ThinkPad user is that there is no key, so these functions are not available from the external keyboard. I don't think IBM, or anyone else, ever made an external keyboard with an key on it. It appears that Lexmark have licensed out this keyboard design, as there is a company called UniComp, strangely enough in Lexington, who sell them as the 'Mighty Mouse' from their website: http://www.pckeyboard.com. They also have full-size IBM clackety-clack keyboards with embedded trackpoints - cool, but expensive. You also see these keyboards quite regularly on ebay and the like. Trivia time: The space-saver keyboard is the same keyboard as used on the PS/2 L40sx of 1991 vintage, with the addition of the TrackPoint. This explains the rectangular mouldings at the front of the keyboard, below the left and keys, as this was where the lid latches went. Dan. -- Daniel Basterfield "He who dies with the most toys wins" OS/2 Certified Engineer Microsoft Certified Professional ----------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM PC110 web page: http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm From cph Sat Nov 27 20:39:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA10038 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:39:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22198; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:38:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:37:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22118; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:37:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22104; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:37:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.217.152 -> ah-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:37:51 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) id UAA16607 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:37:50 -0500 (EST) Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) with SMTP id UAA16573 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:37:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911280137.UAA16573@hpamraaa.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:34:11 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP600 travelling in UK? List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:44:29 -0500, James H. E. Maugham wrote: >The long and short of it is, get a REAL modem and you'll >get the best performance and biggest bang for your buck. >My suggestion to your friend would be to find someone >willing to buy the Winmodem and use the proceeds to get >something better. I'm using a Xircom Realport 10/100 + >56K Globalaccess card in my P266 TP600 and have no >difficulties connecting at max. speed (49.3K normally) >here in the US or in the UK and Belgium, my most >frequently visited EU locations. > >Regards, >James The above comments reminds me of a couple of questions I have. (Thanks!) First, I was quite impressed with the RealPort when it first came out. But as far as I can tell, it effectively takes up both PCMCIA slots, right? Right now I've got a network card in the bottom and a SCSI card in the top slot. With the Realport, I'd have to be off the network while using the SCSI device? It's only a CD-R/W drive so I could live with being off the network, but still it's a concern if I want any more SCSI devices. Secondly, I still use the built-in modem. I've got cablemodem at home, so I only use it on the road in N.A., and while my remote access isn't cheap, I don't suppose it would pay for a new modem/network card just for that. Will my built-in modem work in the U.K. with the appropriate adapter on the other end? Or is it more complex than that? Xircom describes "GlobalACCESS features including extensive country approvals and CountrySelect software, which automatically configures modem to local dialing conventions" which implies something more complex than just a plug adapter. Even if not the RealPort, is there a reason to get a modem/network card that's somehow more suited to European travel? I found a site in Utah that sells plug adapters. $7 for a UK grounded power and $13 for a UK telephone. Targus's European kit has 9 phone and 3 power adapters, but I bet it's more than $20! I'm hoping to go to the UK for about 10 days next month and obviously would want power and phone. I might make a quick side-trip in Europe and I suspect another phone and another power would get up close to Targus's cost. But I could probably live on battery (and if I had no phone adapter, likely wouldn't even use the computer for those days!). Any bad or good experiences with Targus's set? Thanks! andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Sat Nov 27 20:55:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA10064 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:55:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22869; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:54:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:54:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22788; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:54:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22775; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:54:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:54:12 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax49.vramp.net [198.138.8.112]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA02208; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:54:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <010f01bf3943$849829e0$65088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: , "STeve Andre'" References: <3.0.6.32.19991127195902.009eb320@pilot.msu.edu> Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:54:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: Steve Andre' wrote: > Whats the status of Win2K on ThinkPads? I'm pretty sure I've seen > some comments from beta testing folks on this list before. > > In general, I'd like to know how it interacts with ThinkPads, and > in general--how stable it is, how much of a resource hog, etc. I've got it (RC2) running in a dual boot with Win98 on a 760XL (P166MMX 2.1GB 96MB 12.1" TFT SVGA) and find it extremely stable. I even have it loaded on a 755CD (P75 2.1GB 40MB 10.4" TFT) and it's been running magnificently for several weeks now. Took about 6 hours to load on the 755, but once it was up and running it was great. I'm running Office 2000 and IE5 on both machines without any problems to date. Networking with my desktop is effortless. I even got it to recognize my Zip drives without a problem, something I was NEVER able to do in NT4 (even with SP5). It recognized all of my cards without any difficulty. The 755 is running MUCH cooler and no longer almost burns my lap as I use it. I find it more stable and faster than NT4 (SP3) in all instances. I'll be putting RC3 on my TP600 in place of NT4 just as soon as I get my hot little hands on it! Regards, James From cph Sat Nov 27 20:56:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA10068 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:56:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23060; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:55:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:55:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22986; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:55:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from acunet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22973; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:55:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from acunet.net (208.203.130.2) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:55:27 -0500 Received: from HOBBBES (xpool128.acunet.net [208.208.7.128]) by acunet.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA25742 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:55:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002001bf3943$ba954500$8007d0d0@HOBBBES> From: "Jeffrey D Grinnell" To: References: <3.0.6.32.19991127195902.009eb320@pilot.msu.edu> Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:56:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: >From: "STeve Andre'" > Whats the status of Win2K on ThinkPads? I'm pretty sure I've seen > some comments from beta testing folks on this list before. I'm currently trying Windows 2000 Professional RC2 on my Thinkpad 770 (233MHz w/ 96MB). Not wanting to trust this beta with my usual HD which contains OS/2 and Win95 partitions I bought a second HD (4.1GB). I removed my usual 5.1 GB drive, replaced it with the new 4.1GB drive, and set the Thinkpad to boot from the CD. Win2000 booted from the CD and installed with very little input from me. It did take awhile, but it found all my hardware OK. > > In general, I'd like to know how it interacts with ThinkPads, and > in general--how stable it is, how much of a resource hog, etc. It doesn't seem to be much worse than Win95 is, though I must admit that the Win95 partition on my other HD probably has a bunch of extra junk floating around as I've installed/uninstalled countless games from it. The Win2000 installation is much newer and hasn't suffered the same degradation >from my lack of maintainence. I also stayed away from FAT and formatted the drive to use NTFS. I think this may lend itself to better performance too. I'm actually pretty impressed by its performance on this Thinkpad. About the only negative item I have seen so far is the lack of the card wizard to ID my 8MB FlashRAM. I haven't checked into a fix for this. (The same FlashRAM card worked without any tweeking under Win95) So far it seems stable. This may be the first MS OS that I'd consider running side by side with OS/2. (IMHO OS/2 degrades better under heavy load than Win2000 does, but the difference is small) If you can get a copy of the beta it certainly won't hurt to give it a try, especially if you take the precautions of backing up your HD (or buying a second one like I did). Jeff From cph Sat Nov 27 21:28:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA10149 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:28:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24297; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:27:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:26:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24191; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:26:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24177; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:26:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.19 -> cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:26:54 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer - 63.27.202.117 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:26:54 -0800 Message-ID: <002b01bf3948$3e8fc020$6fccfea9@oemcomputer> From: "Brad Burean" To: Subject: Help Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:27:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: My mother-in-law who is in her 70's decided she wanted email access to he family, I lent her a 701c which worked perfectly. Well to make a long story short, she forgot how to shut down the computer, and w95 so she just yanked the plug at the wall. Now the computer won't boot or power on at all, any ideas? From cph Sat Nov 27 21:33:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA10162 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:33:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24639; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:32:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:32:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24566; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot016.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24552; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:32:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot016.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.116 -> pilot016.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:32:33 -0500 Received: from andres (pm455-09.dialip.mich.net [198.110.21.19]) by pilot016.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA28506 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:32:30 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991127213230.009e3850@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:32:30 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Help In-Reply-To: <002b01bf3948$3e8fc020$6fccfea9@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Groan. I've dealt with things like this a couple of times. First, you need to find out *EXACTLY* what happens. When she powers the unit up, does it really sit there and do absolutely nothing? It might, but I wouldn't be surprised if the screen says something, and then croaks. Does the light on the power supply work? If you are with this, and have a volt-ohm-meter, it would be good to look at the voltage on the pins of the connector. So I'd go back and get all the gory details first about this. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 08:27 PM 11/27/1999 -0600, Brad Burean wrote: >My mother-in-law > >who is in her 70's decided she wanted email access to he family, I lent her >a 701c which worked >perfectly. > >Well to make a long story short, she forgot how to shut down the computer, >and w95 so she just >yanked the plug at the wall. Now the computer won't boot or power on at >all, any ideas? From cph Sat Nov 27 21:40:53 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA10195 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:40:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25036; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:39:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:39:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24963; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:39:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24950; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:39:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (165.87.194.243 -> out5.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:39:35 -0500 Received: from basterfield.com ([139.92.229.120]) by prserv.net (out5) with SMTP id <1999112802392824301cq87re>; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 02:39:31 +0000 Message-ID: <38409537.18FCE28E@basterfield.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 02:36:39 +0000 From: Daniel Basterfield Organization: My middle name! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Webber CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: TP600 travelling in UK? References: <199911280137.UAA16573@hpamraaa.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Andrew Webber wrote: > Will my built-in modem work in the U.K. with the appropriate > adapter on the other end? Or is it more complex than that? Xircom > describes "GlobalACCESS features including extensive country > approvals and CountrySelect software, which automatically > configures modem to local dialing conventions" which implies > something more complex than just a plug adapter. I've no experience of this particular modem, but you should be OK in general, if illegal. The country selection allows the modem to be programmed to the settings accepted by each country's telephony company. Strictly, it's illegal to attach unapproved telephony kit to most companies' networks, however I've found that the two things you really need are the obvious plug adapter, and ATX3 in the init string to disable dial-tone detect before dialling. I have used UK modems in the States, and European, US and Japanese modems in the UK, all without problems. Enjoy the trip! Dan. -- Daniel Basterfield "He who dies with the most toys wins" OS/2 Certified Engineer Microsoft Certified Professional ----------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM PC110 web page: http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm From cph Sat Nov 27 21:42:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA10199 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:42:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25253; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:41:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:41:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25170; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:41:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25154; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:41:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (161.44.200.11 -> mill.cisco.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:41:11 -0500 Received: from mill.cisco.com (mill.cisco.com [161.44.200.11]) by mill.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA07913; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:41:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:41:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" To: Brad Burean cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Help In-Reply-To: <002b01bf3948$3e8fc020$6fccfea9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: One thing I'd recommend is what the guys in the hardware group at my job refer to as "letting all the electrons out." Specifically, yank the power, *and* the battery, and let it sit a few moments, then try powering up again, preferably w/o the battery -- I've not infrequently seen notebooks that crash, but *aren't* off -- esp. with Toshibas where "resume" mode is enabled. (Note: if you have a Toshiba, and resume mode is enabled in your BIOS, CHANGE IT TO BOOT MODE. It will make you much happier in the long run.) Just my $.02... -Ken On Sat, 27 Nov 1999, Brad Burean wrote: > Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:27:43 -0600 > From: Brad Burean > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Help > > My mother-in-law > > who is in her 70's decided she wanted email access to he family, I lent her > a 701c which worked > perfectly. > > Well to make a long story short, she forgot how to shut down the computer, > and w95 so she just > yanked the plug at the wall. Now the computer won't boot or power on at > all, any ideas? > > > > From cph Sat Nov 27 21:42:51 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA10203 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:42:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25409; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:41:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:41:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25335; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:41:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25317; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:41:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.12 -> harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:41:38 -0500 Received: from miles (ip38.an11-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.22.38]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA29216; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:41:34 -0800 (PST) From: "David Newman" To: "STeve Andre'" , Subject: RE: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:41:34 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991127195902.009eb320@pilot.msu.edu> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I put W2K beta 2 on an old 760c with no problems. I didn't use any IBM drivers either; W2K recognized Mwave for sound and modem support (but I ended up using a Megahertz PCMCIA modem anyway because it was 56K). This machine was way underpowered for W2K (90-MHz Pentium, 56 Mbytes RAM) but aside from some slow screen updates it wasn't that bad. I've since wiped that disk but for many months it was my Quicken machine. dn > -----Original Message----- > From: STeve Andre' [mailto:andres@msu.edu] > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 4:59 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads > > > Whats the status of Win2K on ThinkPads? I'm pretty sure I've seen > some comments from beta testing folks on this list before. > > In general, I'd like to know how it interacts with ThinkPads, and > in general--how stable it is, how much of a resource hog, etc. > > Thanks! > > --STeve Andre' > andres@msu.edu > From cph Sat Nov 27 22:01:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA10269 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:01:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26734; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:00:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:00:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26658; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:00:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.means.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26645; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:00:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.means.net (206.9.64.100 -> Orion.Means.Net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:00:23 -0500 Received: from orion (h.204.73.46.73.acetelephone.com [204.73.46.73]) by orion.means.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA02128 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:00:21 -0600 (CST) From: "The Weber's" To: Subject: TP 760CD MWave Modem Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:00:20 -0600 Message-ID: <000401bf394c$b51652a0$492e49cc@orion> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Hello all, I just did a fresh installation of windows 98 (4.10.1998) on my 760cd. I printed this guide on there site: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3VGPMA.html?lang=en_US&page=brand&brand =root&doctype=&subtype=All, followed it step by step, and downloaded the appropriate drivers. The installation went smoothly. But when I tried to connect to the Internet, it said "Couldn't detect modem.". so, I looked in the properties for the modem and it says its using COM 4. I ran the Mwave quick test and it said it couldn't open that port. I apologize for the lousy email. (I'm a horrible typist and composer. ) Any pointers or suggestions would be very greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Tj From cph Sat Nov 27 22:23:23 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA10322 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:23:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27718; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:22:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:22:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27645; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:22:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27632; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:21:59 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA14867; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:21:52 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001b01bf394f$b963fa80$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Andrew Webber" , "ThinkPad List" References: <199911280137.UAA16573@hpamraaa.compuserve.com> Subject: Re: TP600 travelling in UK? Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:21:54 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > Will my built-in modem work in the U.K. with the appropriate > adapter on the other end? Yes, but it won't detect carrier, UK phone rings, busy signal, etc, so you have to set appropriate software/init strings to not require or detect these signals. (One nice thing about a 'global' or 'international' modem is that you can still detect these things.) If you want these 'global' features, the IBM PCMCIA International modem (28.8, but flashable to 33.6) is often on sale at ebay for $20 or less. I've used one for years, love it. > I found a site in Utah that sells plug adapters. $7 for a UK > grounded power and $13 for a UK telephone. Targus's European kit > has 9 phone and 3 power adapters, but I bet it's more than $20! $7 for the plug adapter is outrageous. Try a local department store, or Radio Shack (I bought a kit complete with both power adapters *and* 220-120VAC converted for around $15 at a department store). The phone adapter is trickier. I bought mine in England for around 5 pounds, but I think you can find multu-country kits in this country for much less. > Any bad or good experiences with > Targus's set? Plug adapters are so simple in construction that it is hard to imagine anything going bad on one! - David R. From cph Sat Nov 27 23:02:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA10421 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:02:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28867; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:01:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:01:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28766; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:01:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28744; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:00:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.206.132 -> dh-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:00:59 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) id XAA18327 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:00:58 -0500 (EST) Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) with SMTP id XAA18320 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:00:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911280400.XAA18320@hpdmraaa.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:29:29 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP600 travelling in UK? List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:21:54 -1000, David Ross wrote: >> Will my built-in modem work in the U.K. with the >>appropriate adapter on the other end? > >Yes, but it won't detect carrier, UK phone rings, busy signal, >etc, so you have to set appropriate software/init strings to >not require or detect these signals. (One nice thing about >a 'global' or 'international' modem is that you can still >detect these things.) > >If you want these 'global' features, the IBM PCMCIA International >modem (28.8, but flashable to 33.6) is often on sale at ebay for >$20 or less. I've used one for years, love it. Thanks for the suggestion. I obviously don't need my network card on the road, so I'll look around (only have a couple of weeks so I may have to do without). >> I found a site in Utah that sells plug adapters. $7 >> for a UK grounded power and $13 for a UK telephone. >> Targus's European kit has 9 phone and 3 power >> adapters, but I bet it's more than $20! > >$7 for the plug adapter is outrageous. I suppose what you're paying for is the knowledge? >Plug adapters are so simple in construction that it is >hard to imagine anything going bad on one! Not "going" bad, but I guess it's QC issues, or shoddy connections. Won't know until I get somewhere with it! But you're right, it's like cheap computer parts, they really aren't any worse than brand name! andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Sun Nov 28 01:10:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA10696 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:10:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03151; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:07:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03011; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:07:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02998; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:07:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:07:11 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA15099; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:07:06 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000a01bf3966$ce339e40$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Andrew Webber" Cc: "ThinkPad List" References: <199911280400.XAA18320@hpdmraaa.compuserve.com> Subject: Re: TP600 travelling in UK? Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:07:07 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > Thanks for the suggestion. I obviously don't need my network card > on the road You might pack it just in case - for example, I've been to an internet cafe in Edinburgh that uses ethernet... > I suppose what you're paying for is the knowledge? No; the UK electrical plug standard is not a secret. (The plugs are too large to keep them a secret:-) Here's another suggestion: bring a US socket on some wire (e.g., an extension cord with the plug cut off), then buy a plug when you get to England (make sure you buy one with a fuse included), and attach it to your wire (UK plugs all have wiring instructions enclosed). That way, if you do go to the continent, you can just buy a plug there. You might find that you don't even need an adapter in the UK - many UK bathrooms have shaver sockets on the wall, and these will accept US plugs. (Of course, this means using the battery except in the loo.) - David R. From cph Sun Nov 28 01:10:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA10700 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:10:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03147; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:06:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02970; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:06:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ptldpop2.ptld.uswest.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02957; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:06:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ptldpop2.ptld.uswest.net (198.36.160.2 -> ptldpop2.ptld.uswest.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:06:54 -0500 Received: (qmail 2362 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 1999 06:06:44 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 2347 invoked by uid 0); 28 Nov 1999 06:06:44 -0000 Received: from cdialup109.ptld.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (207.225.65.109) by ptldpop2.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 28 Nov 1999 06:06:44 -0000 Message-ID: <3840C631.61A1585B@uswest.net> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:05:37 -0800 From: Patrick West X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeffrey D Grinnell CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads References: <3.0.6.32.19991127195902.009eb320@pilot.msu.edu> <002001bf3943$ba954500$8007d0d0@HOBBBES> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: If you do there is a list os2-nt@onelist.com Jeffrey D Grinnell wrote: > So far it seems stable. This may be the first MS OS that I'd consider > running side > by side with OS/2. (IMHO OS/2 degrades better under heavy load than > Win2000 does, but the difference is small) If you can get a copy of the From cph Sun Nov 28 01:37:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA10747 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:37:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03940; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:36:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:34:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03839; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:34:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from usc.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03826; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:34:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from usc.edu (128.125.253.136 -> usc.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:34:34 -0500 Received: from rcf-fs.usc.edu (root@rcf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.19.166]) by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id WAA01817 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-185.usc.edu [128.125.224.185]) by rcf-fs.usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id WAA11003 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:34:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991127222456.033ab7e0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@rcf.usc.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:33:26 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Web Server using a ThinkPad? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Hi All, I expect to be getting a DSL line within a month or so (yeah, lucky me--finally my business is doing well enough that I can justify this move, even if it is a measly $80/mo). The DSL setup I'm getting allows me to have up to 4 computers with static IP addresses in my place of residence. I currently have 2--my desktop and my laptop, which travels with me about 5-10 days of the month. Given that I have 4 IP addresses, 2 of which I won't really need, I had thought perhaps I would get a fairly basic laptop machine to run as a web server on my DSL line (space is a consideration, and I don't want to use my desktop machine, partly due to power consumption). What kind of machine specs would I need for such a machine to act as a web server (cost is an issue--and given that the upstream bandwidth on the DSL line is 384 Kbs or something like that, I don't think it needs to be a hotrod)? What OS & web serving software would anyone here recommend? Linux? NT? Someone wanna give me that Win 2000 beta? As much as I'd like to play with Linux, I'd be inclined to have a Windows variant on the machine since I can put LapLink 2000 on it and easily transfer stuff from one of my other networked machines onto the "server" machine. I had thought perhaps I could get an inexpensive, older laptop (an early Pentium, perhaps) where I can insert a 3 GB laptop drive I have sitting around and give it a whirl (I also have an extra 10BT PC Card). Comments & suggestions are welcome. :-) - Randy Whittle From cph Sun Nov 28 01:48:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA10767 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:48:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04494; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:47:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:45:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04349; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:45:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04335; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:45:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:45:33 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA15235; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:45:29 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001001bf396c$2b34e040$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "TP List" , "Randal Whittle" References: <4.2.0.58.19991127222456.033ab7e0@rcf.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Web Server using a ThinkPad? Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:45:31 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > hotrod)? What OS & web serving software would anyone here > recommend? Linux? NT? Someone wanna give me that Win 2000 beta? The obvious solution is Linux and Apache. However, there have been some controversial tests lately which seem to indicate that NT might be a better server at high volume than Linux - this is generating quite a bit of heat in the Linux v. MS debate, and I think the jury is still out on how to interpret the results, especially since in the first incarnation the tests were kind-of subsidized by MS. If you're familiar with NT, and not with Linux, and your machine can handle NT, then NT might be the quickest way to go (I have no suggestions for web server software), but Linux is probably the best solution long-run. - David R. From cph Sun Nov 28 01:55:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA10774 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:55:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04915; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:54:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:53:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04825; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from usc.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04812; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from usc.edu (128.125.253.136 -> usc.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:53:14 -0500 Received: from rcf-fs.usc.edu (root@rcf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.19.166]) by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id WAA10802; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:53:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-185.usc.edu [128.125.224.185]) by rcf-fs.usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id WAA12466; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:53:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991127225002.033ad1d0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:52:00 -0800 To: "David Ross" From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Web Server using a ThinkPad? Cc: TP List In-Reply-To: <001001bf396c$2b34e040$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> References: <4.2.0.58.19991127222456.033ab7e0@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 08:45 PM 11/27/1999 -1000, you wrote: > > hotrod)? What OS & web serving software would anyone here > > recommend? Linux? NT? Someone wanna give me that Win 2000 beta? > >The obvious solution is Linux and Apache. However, there have been some >controversial tests lately which seem to indicate that NT might be a better >server at high volume than Linux - this is generating quite a bit of heat in >If you're familiar with NT, and not with Linux, and your machine can handle >NT, then NT might be the quickest way to go (I have no suggestions for web >server software), but Linux is probably the best >solution long-run. I'm not particularly familiar with either, and this certainly *won't* be getting any kind of high-volume! :-) I'm looking for partly an idiot-proof solution, not too complicated, but also a fairly reliable--I just want the thing to sit there running, consuming relatively little power, and not have to futz with it much, so reliability in that sense would be nice. :-) - Randy Whittle From cph Sun Nov 28 02:59:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA10875 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 02:58:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06481; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 02:58:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 02:56:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06382; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 02:56:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06369; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 02:56:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (132.187.1.7 -> wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 02:56:03 -0500 Received: from stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (wrzn12.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.2.12]) by wrzx07.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8/uniwue-MM-1.0) with ESMTP id IAA06677 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 08:55:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from WRZN12/SpoolDir by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 28 Nov 99 08:55:58 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by WRZN12 (Mercury 1.44); 28 Nov 99 08:55:51 +0200 Received: from mail.stelarcom.de (132.187.248.65) by stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de (Mercury 1.44); 28 Nov 99 08:55:40 +0200 Received: from babylon5 (babylon5.stelarcom.de [192.168.0.2] ) by mail.stelarcom.de (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 08:57:16 -0100 Message-Id: <199911280857.1637655.7@mail.stelarcom.de> From: "Alexander Wagner" To: "ThinkPad Mailinglist" Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 08:57:10 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: "Alexander Wagner" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.1999 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <001b01bf394f$b963fa80$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP600 travelling in UK? List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:21:54 -1000, David Ross wrote: Hi! >> Will my built-in modem work in the U.K. with the appropriate >> adapter on the other end? > >Yes, but it won't detect carrier, UK phone rings, busy signal, etc, so you >have to set appropriate >software/init strings to not require or detect these signals. Well AT&FX1 or AT&FX4 should do the job. If you run DOS9x or NT place this in the "special string" field of the modem. All initializations DOS did are gone afterwards (AT&F reset's the modem to factory defaults) and everything works fine. BTW: You need the same setup as for usage within hotels etc. pp. -- CU/2 (( In the beginning was The Word Alexander Wagner )) and The Word was Content-type: text/plain Team OS/2 Franken (( _________________________________________________________________________ -=[ Team OS/2 Germany #294 ]=- Please use only A.Wagner@TeamOS2.de or A.Wagner@Bigfoot.de for replies, even if some other addresses may appear. Thanks! Get my PGP-key with Subject: Request for PGP-Keys From cph Sun Nov 28 03:45:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA10985 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:45:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09207; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:44:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:43:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09130; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:43:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09117; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:43:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:43:08 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p37.hwts18.loop.net [207.211.63.130]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA26257; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 00:42:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911280842.AAA26257@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "The Weber's" Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 00:45:13 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP 760CD MWave Modem List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:00:20 -0600, The Weber's wrote: >Hello all, > >I just did a fresh installation of windows 98 (4.10.1998) on my 760cd. I >printed this guide on there site: >http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3VGPMA.html?lang=en_US&page=brand&brand >=root&doctype=&subtype=All, followed it step by step, and downloaded the >appropriate drivers. The installation went smoothly. But when I tried to >connect to the Internet, it said "Couldn't detect modem.". so, I looked in >the properties for the modem and it says its using COM 4. I ran the Mwave >quick test and it said it couldn't open that port. > >I apologize for the lousy email. (I'm a horrible typist and composer. ) > >Any pointers or suggestions would be very greatly appreciated. Tj, just thought I'd let you know your email wasn't horrible (and at least it wasn't all CAPS either). What resources does it show for the modem? Did you install the ThinkPad Utility program first, then reboot? From cph Sun Nov 28 03:50:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA10990 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:50:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09526; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:49:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:47:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09433; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:47:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09420; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:47:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:47:48 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p37.hwts18.loop.net [207.211.63.130]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA26426; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 00:47:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911280847.AAA26426@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "STeve Andre'" Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 00:49:54 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:59:02 -0500, STeve Andre' wrote: > Whats the status of Win2K on ThinkPads? I'm pretty sure I've seen >some comments from beta testing folks on this list before. > I've been beta testing on my ThinkPad, and have been running RC2 (build 2128) for about the last 2 months. > In general, I'd like to know how it interacts with ThinkPads, and >in general--how stable it is, how much of a resource hog, etc. > It's pretty stable, though I've had slight network issues before. Fortunately, there's an option to disable (shut off) my 3COM NIC, and reenable it, then things work. I miss having my registered copy of Diskeeper that I had with NT 4 (the one on Win2K isn't that great, but at least it *has* a defragger), I've had slight problems with MWave and Winamp in particular (and MWave in particular). A friend of mine who tried beta 3 and RC2 also noticed priority problems with Winamp also, but otherwise, it runs quite well (if you look at my headers, you'll see I'm running Win2K on this machine). It does sometimes go slowly since I'm on a P133, but the more RAM, the better (I have 80MB). Also, I noticed that suspend doesn't seem to work well, but there is a built-in hibernation feature which I use all the time, and saves lots of time. If there's any questions you have in particular, send 'em over. Paul From cph Sun Nov 28 03:53:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA10994 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:53:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09682; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:52:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:50:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09597; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:50:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09584; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:50:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:50:33 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p37.hwts18.loop.net [207.211.63.130]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA26518; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 00:49:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911280849.AAA26518@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "David Newman" Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 00:52:40 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:41:34 -0800, David Newman wrote: > >I put W2K beta 2 on an old 760c with no problems. I didn't use any IBM >drivers either; W2K recognized Mwave for sound and modem support (but I >ended up using a Megahertz PCMCIA modem anyway because it was 56K). > Did you get sound, or did you have to do some file renaming? I had to rename some files per the suggestion of another user on the list (forgot his name, but a million thanks to him, since sound is a key issue in my case - I use Winamp in my car). >This machine was way underpowered for W2K (90-MHz Pentium, 56 Mbytes RAM) >but aside from some slow screen updates it wasn't that bad. I've since wiped >that disk but for many months it was my Quicken machine. > Yeah, the more RAM, the better. MS says the minimum sys. req. are a P166, 32MB RAM, I'd personally change it to a P133, 48MB of RAM, 64MB or higher recommended. On your machine, how long does it take to boot? Mine takes several minutes at the most... Now what I found ironic was that there's still support for the ThinkPad 701 Modem =) Paul From cph Sun Nov 28 03:56:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA10998 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:56:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09903; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:55:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:53:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09815; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:53:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09801; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:53:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:53:29 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p37.hwts18.loop.net [207.211.63.130]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA26619; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 00:52:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911280852.AAA26619@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Jeffrey D Grinnell" Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 00:55:36 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:56:02 -0500, Jeffrey D Grinnell wrote: >> In general, I'd like to know how it interacts with ThinkPads, and >> in general--how stable it is, how much of a resource hog, etc. > >It doesn't seem to be much worse than Win95 is, though I must admit that >the Win95 partition on my other HD probably has a bunch of extra junk >floating around as I've installed/uninstalled countless games from it. The >Win2000 installation is much newer and hasn't suffered the same degradation >from my lack of maintainence. > >I also stayed away from FAT and formatted the drive to use NTFS. I think >this >may lend itself to better performance too. > It does slightly, though like with OS/2 and HPFS, the more RAM, the better. Plus you get better file system security also, and it supposedly doesn't fragment as bad, then again, HPFS still seems to defragement itself better... >I'm actually pretty impressed by its performance on this Thinkpad. About >the >only negative item I have seen so far is the lack of the card wizard to ID >my >8MB FlashRAM. I haven't checked into a fix for this. (The same FlashRAM >card >worked without any tweeking under Win95) > >So far it seems stable. This may be the first MS OS that I'd consider >running side >by side with OS/2. (IMHO OS/2 degrades better under heavy load than >Win2000 does, but the difference is small) If you can get a copy of the >beta it >certainly won't hurt to give it a try, especially if you take the >precautions of >backing up your HD (or buying a second one like I did). > I did the same, and have it on a seperate HD (5.1GB). In fact, when my HD crashed (hardware failure) with OS/2 on this machine, I decided to try NT 4, then stepped up to Win2K. Paul From cph Sun Nov 28 03:59:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA11005 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:59:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10107; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:58:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:56:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09991; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:56:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09977; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:56:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:56:40 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p37.hwts18.loop.net [207.211.63.130]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA26739; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 00:56:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911280856.AAA26739@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "James H. E. Maugham" Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 00:58:47 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:54:32 -0500, James H. E. Maugham wrote: >I'm running Office 2000 and IE5 on both machines without any problems to >date. Networking with my desktop is effortless. I even got it to recognize >my Zip drives without a problem, something I was NEVER able to do in NT4 >(even with SP5). It recognized all of my cards without any difficulty. The >755 is running MUCH cooler and no longer almost burns my lap as I use it. > I've noticed that too. I don't know if anyone is familiar with distributed.net's RC5 contest, but whether I had my RC5 client running or not in OS/2 or NT4, this machine got VERY hot. So hot I had to use a dead notebook (magnesuim case) as a heatsink, and that too got hot. >I find it more stable and faster than NT4 (SP3) in all instances. I'll be >putting RC3 on my TP600 in place of NT4 just as soon as I get my hot little >hands on it! > Are they supposed to have an RC3? I can't wait until it's released, I'll definately buy it because I'm quite happy with the performance, and the extra features that NT4 never had. Paul From cph Sun Nov 28 04:05:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA11012 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:05:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA10664; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:04:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:02:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA10478; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:02:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA10465; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:02:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:02:31 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p37.hwts18.loop.net [207.211.63.130]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA26915; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:01:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911280901.BAA26915@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Randal Whittle" Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:04:37 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Web Server using a ThinkPad? List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:33:26 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: As much as I'd like to play with Linux, I'd be inclined to have a Windows >variant on the machine since I can put LapLink 2000 on it and easily >transfer stuff from one of my other networked machines onto the "server" >machine. Randal, check out Apache from www.apache.org I haven't tried the Win32 version (I use the Solaris SPARC version), but my brother has it and says it works well for him. > > I had thought perhaps I could get an inexpensive, older laptop (an early >Pentium, perhaps) where I can insert a 3 GB laptop drive I have sitting >around and give it a whirl (I also have an extra 10BT PC Card). > I've been able to use either my SPARC or my 750 (both rate around the same speeds in benchmarks) for a webserver, and it works well under a decent load. If you're going to get lots of traffic, you might want to opt for a Pentium with NT. Pault From cph Sun Nov 28 04:05:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA11016 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:05:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA10793; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:04:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:03:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA10590; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:03:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA10560; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:03:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (165.87.194.239 -> out4.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:03:06 -0500 Received: from ibm.net ([139.92.219.81]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <1999112809025523902boobie>; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:02:57 +0000 Message-ID: <383E82F7.80EEF215@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 12:54:21 +0000 From: Tony Wright Organization: Equi-Tek CompCon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: HDD Recognition References: <0.5ac8ea0d.256c264b@aol.com> <383C24E0.D5B022F3@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bill Morrow wrote: > the machine SHOULD see what the drive is telling it is there.. > > so, first, be sure the drive is formatted for the full 10gigs.. > also note: 10gigs is 10billion (base 10), not 10 billion bytes (base 8) > which is more.. :-) A risk of picking dear ol Bill's nit's further- I think the esteemed gentleman really meanta base radix of 2 and not 8? Made even more confusing perhaps by Bills statement that 10Gigabytes = 10 "billion" = 10,000,000,000 and thus "billion" appears to be more widely accepted internationally now as a "thousand million" rather than UK's "million million" or 10,000,000,000,000 in this example ;-) So what prey tell does 10Gb to a base radix of 8 work out at? > so the true yeild for a 10gig drive is 9 something gigaBYTES... or possibly even 9,765,625,000 bytes ? > JEShoemaker@aol.com wrote: > > > My TP770X came with a 8GB HDD. When I attached > > a 10GB external PCMCIA HD to make a mirror image, > > only 8.2GB were recognized. > > > > I have the latest Windows 98 BIOS installed. INT 13 > > is checked, but greyed-out, in Disk Drive Properties in > > Device Manager. > > > > How can I get the machine to recognize a larger than > > 8GB hard drive? > > > > TIA ... John > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net -- Rgds Tony W Email: horseman@ibm.net "humanum est errare: To err is human .... and to fail is to be a Project Manager... ...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!" From cph Sun Nov 28 04:06:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA11020 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:06:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA10943; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:05:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:04:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA10700; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:04:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA10687; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:04:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:04:10 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p37.hwts18.loop.net [207.211.63.130]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA26973; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:03:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911280903.BAA26973@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "David Ross" Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:06:16 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Web Server using a ThinkPad? List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:45:31 -1000, David Ross wrote: >> hotrod)? What OS & web serving software would anyone here >> recommend? Linux? NT? Someone wanna give me that Win 2000 beta? > >The obvious solution is Linux and Apache. However, there have been some >controversial tests lately which seem to indicate that NT might be a better >server at high volume than Linux - this is generating quite a bit of heat in >the Linux v. MS debate, and I think the jury is still out on how to interpret >the results, especially since in the first incarnation the tests were kind-of >subsidized by MS. > PC Week released an article awhile back, and Linux and Netware came in last on web serving, Solaris came in high, and NT came in high under Solaris. >If you're familiar with NT, and not with Linux, and your machine can handle >NT, then NT might be the quickest way to go (I have no suggestions for web >server software), but Linux is probably the best >solution long-run. > Again, check out Apache. I don't know if you can download IIS for free (Internet Information Server), which is MS' web server. Paulb From cph Sun Nov 28 04:10:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA11025 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:10:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA11257; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:09:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:08:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA11176; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:08:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA11163; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:08:11 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p37.hwts18.loop.net [207.211.63.130]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA27110; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:07:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911280907.BAA27110@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "James H. E. Maugham" Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:10:17 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Modem question, and source for very inexpensive PC cards List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:44:29 -0500, James H. E. Maugham wrote: > >It's a cheesy modem. This is true of ALL the Winmodems unfortunately. In all >the years Winmodems have been available I don't recall ever seeing an email >that said "Hey, my new Winmodem works great!". LOL. I can definately agree with that in all the calls I take each day, of which so many people with 56K winmodems can't connect more than 33.6K. >One would certainly think that a late model Thinkpad would be happy with one >installed and the CPU would have more than enough HP to share the modem >tasks along with the basic desktop functions. The problem is that individual >configurations are apt to have all sorts of programs running in the >background that make random calls on the CPU and cause the Winmodem process >to deteriorate. A lack of memory exacerbates the condition. > >Got Instant Messenger running? How about ICQ? VirusScan? Etc., etc. All pull >down performance until there is little left for the modem. > >The long and short of it is, get a REAL modem and you'll get the best >performance and biggest bang for your buck. My suggestion to your friend >would be to find someone willing to buy the Winmodem and use the proceeds to >get something better. I'm using a Xircom Realport 10/100 + 56K Globalaccess >card in my P266 TP600 and have no difficulties connecting at max. speed >(49.3K normally) here in the US or in the UK and Belgium, my most frequently >visited EU locations. > I agree. In the long run, you won't regreat it, the connections will be better, you'll have less configuration headaches, etc. And you don't have to worry about the joy of installing proprietary modem drivers, especially if they conflict with other devices. Paul From cph Sun Nov 28 04:30:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA11090 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:30:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13100; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:28:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:27:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12944; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:27:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12931; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:27:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:27:19 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA15676 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:27:15 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001b01bf3982$c47e3380$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "ThinkPad List" References: <199911280903.BAA26973@stevie.loop.com> Subject: Re: Web Server using a ThinkPad? Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:27:17 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > PC Week released an article awhile back, and Linux and Netware came in last on web > serving, Solaris came in high, and NT came in high under Solaris. This is the article I was referring to. Linux people were quick to point out that the tests - done not by Ziff-Davis, but by a 3rd party lab - had allowed MS to do some optimizations not allowed to the others. Subsequent retests still showed NT higher, but not by as much, and there is still some question about the objectivity of the tests. I would guess that any of the OSes would be sufficient for Randal, and that he's most interested in getting a server up quickly and securely. In that case, a windows server - even a W95 one - might be the answer. However, if he wants to incorporate non-proprietary active scripting and so forth into his web pages, then I think he will eventually want to be working in some form of Unix. - David R. From cph Sun Nov 28 09:39:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA21300 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:39:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27299; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:38:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:36:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27190; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:36:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27177; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:36:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.28 -> cpimssmtpu07.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:36:12 -0500 Received: from ppro200 - 63.14.59.63 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 06:36:13 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Richard A. Bilancia" To: Subject: 600X memory specs Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 07:35:51 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: After happily owning two ThinkPads (first a 560 Type: #2640-50A then a 560X Type: #2640-70U) I've finally decided to go the 600X route. I ordered a 2645-4EU today. However, I'm having some trouble determining if the memory for earlier 600's and 600E's will work. Any one have any ideas? Also, any suggestions for buying 64mb of memory at decent prices would be appreciated. TIA, Rich --- "Adversity is the crucible in which greatness is forged." - Ken Baker Richard A. Bilancia P. O. Box 620127 Littleton, Colorado 80162-0127 Voice: (303) 973-4035 - FAX: (303) 979-2248 Worldwide Web: http://homepages.msn.com/CommercialSt/rabilancia Internet email: rab@msn.com Activity-Based Management and Open Systems Accounting Solutions From cph Sun Nov 28 10:46:31 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA21528 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:46:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28556; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:45:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:43:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28446; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:43:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail12.wlv.netzero.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28433; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail12.wlv.netzero.net (209.247.163.62 -> mail12.wlv.netzero.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:43:40 -0500 Received: (qmail 4394 invoked by uid 0); 28 Nov 1999 15:43:27 -0000 Received: from pppa11-resaletucson1-2r1045.saturn.bbn.com (HELO netzero.net) (4.16.90.70) by mail12.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 28 Nov 1999 15:43:27 -0000 Message-ID: <38414D9D.DB814495@netzero.net> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 08:43:25 -0700 From: Juan-Carlos Lerman Reply-To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: HDD Recognition Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Tony Wright wrote: > Bill Morrow wrote: ...... > So what prey tell does 10Gb to a base radix of 8 work out at? > > > so the true yeild for a 10gig drive is 9 something gigaBYTES... > > or possibly even 9,765,625,000 bytes ? No. I believe it's less: (10 Gig)decimal = 10exp10 (10 Gig)binary = 2exp30 = 1.024exp3 = ~1.074 (10 Gig)octal = 8exp10 = ~1.074 thus 10 "hardware" Gig (decimal) = ~9.3 "software" Gig (binary or octal) JC == __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From cph Sun Nov 28 12:19:24 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA21820 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:19:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01334; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:18:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:15:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01040; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01027; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:15:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:15:27 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax3.vramp.net [198.138.8.66]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA10149; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:15:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <018501bf39c4$39cd6ac0$65088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "James" Cc: References: <3.0.6.32.19991127195902.009eb320@pilot.msu.edu> <010f01bf3943$849829e0$65088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <002d01bf3944$c16b5760$02268ad1@TP600> Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:15:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: "James" wrote: > James, > How is the performance on the 760XL with Win2K? Like do you feel slower than > Win95/98? Or about the same speed? I've only got the old MKI eyeball to answer this with as I haven't run any utilities to check, but my subjective opinion is Win2K is faster than Win95 or NT4 and slightly slower than Win98. But, that could be simply a case of being very happy with Win98 (SE) on the machines I have setup to dual boot with Win2K. After much tweaking and tuning they all run for weeks at a time 24/7 without any BSOD's or other problems under 98. So far they appear to be just as stable under Win2K. I wish I could say the same for NT4 (SP3). You will all have to excuse me for the rest of the day. It appears that my daughter brought a virus home from college and has infected my son's machine. It's dead!!!! Why he had VirusScan turned off I will NEVER understand. Regards, James From cph Sun Nov 28 12:19:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA21824 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:19:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01338; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:18:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:17:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01131; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:16:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot008.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01118; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:16:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot008.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.108 -> pilot008.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:16:58 -0500 Received: from andres (pm452-10.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.116]) by pilot008.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA56656 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:16:54 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991128121637.009ed100@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:16:37 -0500 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Web Server using a ThinkPad? In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991127222456.033ab7e0@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: If you are going to put up a web server that will be noticed by more than just a few people, security is going to be a major pain for you. I'm sorry to say that most web servers out there are in really bad shape in this regard. NT is a crawling horror. Linux is far better than that, but still has enough security problems that I would rather not trust it in a server environment. My personal choice is OpenBSD, available at www.openbsd.org. A varient of the BSD 4.4 code, it is the most solid of any of the free UNIX's out there, free, and really most of the most secure op systems in the world. It runs on a more limited range of hardware than Linux does however, and your 755 might not be a machine that it runs on. Experience in the last several years has shown me that not putting security as the first concern too often leads to misery when running a web server (or anyting else that is available to the world). People used to think I was something of a crank for saying this, but the message is slowly getting out--there really are people out there who will totally mess up a site for the sheer fun of it and then vanish. An early Pentium laptop could be used as a server (it does have the advantage of having a built in UPS!), but I question if you can put in enough memory to keep the thing very speedy. For a minimal use site however, it would work. You could start with that, and then graduate to something bigger as time goes on. Plan on that. Sorry to harp on security, but I'd like to see you avoid the problems that friends of mine have had, thinking that a little web server is an easy thing to do... --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 10:33 PM 11/27/1999 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: >Hi All, > > I expect to be getting a DSL line within a month or so (yeah, lucky >me--finally my business is doing well enough that I can justify this move, >even if it is a measly $80/mo). > > The DSL setup I'm getting allows me to have up to 4 computers with static >IP addresses in my place of residence. I currently have 2--my desktop and >my laptop, which travels with me about 5-10 days of the month. > > Given that I have 4 IP addresses, 2 of which I won't really need, I had >thought perhaps I would get a fairly basic laptop machine to run as a web >server on my DSL line (space is a consideration, and I don't want to use my >desktop machine, partly due to power consumption). > > What kind of machine specs would I need for such a machine to act as a web >server (cost is an issue--and given that the upstream bandwidth on the DSL >line is 384 Kbs or something like that, I don't think it needs to be a >hotrod)? What OS & web serving software would anyone here >recommend? Linux? NT? Someone wanna give me that Win 2000 beta? > > As much as I'd like to play with Linux, I'd be inclined to have a Windows >variant on the machine since I can put LapLink 2000 on it and easily >transfer stuff from one of my other networked machines onto the "server" >machine. > > I had thought perhaps I could get an inexpensive, older laptop (an early >Pentium, perhaps) where I can insert a 3 GB laptop drive I have sitting >around and give it a whirl (I also have an extra 10BT PC Card). > >Comments & suggestions are welcome. :-) > >- Randy Whittle > > From cph Sun Nov 28 12:22:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA21837 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:22:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01598; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:21:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:20:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01501; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:20:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot008.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01488; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:20:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot008.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.108 -> pilot008.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:20:03 -0500 Received: from andres (pm452-10.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.116]) by pilot008.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA59012; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:19:59 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991128121941.009e4100@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:19:41 -0500 To: "Brad Burean" From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Help Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <005301bf394a$a57a92e0$6fccfea9@oemcomputer> References: <3.0.6.32.19991127213230.009e3850@pilot.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Ken's suggestion of taking the battery out of the unit is a good one. It sounds like she isn't going to be too useful in determining whats going on... Hmmm. Likely your best solution is to have her ship the unit back to you for work. If you haven't tried it yet, have you had her boot the machine from the battery? --STeve Andre' At 08:45 PM 11/27/1999 -0600, Brad Burean wrote: >I guess nothing happens, she's 250 miles away, no lights nothing. nothing at >all. >Brad > >----- Original Message ----- >From: STeve Andre' >To: >Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 8:32 PM >Subject: Re: Help > > >> Groan. I've dealt with things like this a couple of times. >> >> First, you need to find out *EXACTLY* what happens. When she powers the >> unit up, does it really sit there and do absolutely nothing? It might, >> but I wouldn't be surprised if the screen says something, and then croaks. >> >> Does the light on the power supply work? If you are with this, and have >> a volt-ohm-meter, it would be good to look at the voltage on the pins of >> the connector. >> >> So I'd go back and get all the gory details first about this. >> >> --STeve Andre' >> andres@msu.edu >> >> At 08:27 PM 11/27/1999 -0600, Brad Burean wrote: >> >My mother-in-law >> > >> >who is in her 70's decided she wanted email access to he family, I lent >her >> >a 701c which worked >> >perfectly. >> > >> >Well to make a long story short, she forgot how to shut down the >computer, >> >and w95 so she just >> >yanked the plug at the wall. Now the computer won't boot or power on at >> >all, any ideas? >> > > > > From cph Sun Nov 28 12:24:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA21841 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:24:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01889; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:24:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:22:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01762; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:22:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01749; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:22:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:22:50 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax3.vramp.net [198.138.8.66]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA10629; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:22:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <019301bf39c5$3bc8d020$65088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" References: <199911280856.AAA26739@stevie.loop.com> Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:23:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: "Paul Khoury" wrote: > Are they supposed to have an RC3? I can't wait until it's released, I'll definately buy it > because I'm quite happy with the performance, and the extra features that NT4 > never had. Latest word on the MS Win2K support group is that RC3 will _only_ go to Beta testers, not the CPP testers! Guess I'll have to wait for the NFR disks that will come with my HOT kit. Bummer. Regards, James From cph Sun Nov 28 12:34:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA21881 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:34:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02388; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:33:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:32:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02242; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:32:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02229; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:31:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:31:59 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax3.vramp.net [198.138.8.66]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA11148; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:31:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <019d01bf39c6$8c03f280$65088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: , References: Subject: Re: 600X memory specs Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:32:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: "Richard A. Bilancia" wrote: > However, I'm having some trouble determining if the memory > for earlier 600's and 600E's will work. Any one have > any ideas? > > Also, any suggestions for buying 64mb of memory at decent > prices would be appreciated. AFAIK the 600 memory works on all models. There are 64MB SDRAMs on eBay all the time and they appear to go for between $80 and $120, although I've frequently seen them go for more. A quick search for Thinkpad 600* will show you what's available. Regards, James From cph Sun Nov 28 12:41:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA21924 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:41:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02728; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:41:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:39:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02594; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:39:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from usc.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02581; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:39:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from usc.edu (128.125.253.136 -> usc.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:39:37 -0500 Received: from rcf-fs.usc.edu (root@rcf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.19.166]) by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id JAA20461; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:39:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-224-164.usc.edu [128.125.224.164]) by rcf-fs.usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id JAA28209; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:39:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991128093242.033af100@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:35:51 -0800 To: "STeve Andre'" From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Web Server using a ThinkPad? Cc: TP List In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991128121637.009ed100@pilot.msu.edu> References: <4.2.0.58.19991127222456.033ab7e0@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 12:16 PM 11/28/1999 -0500, you wrote: >If you are going to put up a web server that will be noticed by more >than just a few people, security is going to be a major pain for you. >I'm sorry to say that most web servers out there are in really bad >shape in this regard. Offhand, I don't particularly care to worry about it at the moment. Mainly it would be for myself and a few select people to access. I'm not going to advertise it--not even going to get a domain name for it. When/if I do, then I'll worry about security. >NT is a crawling horror. Linux is far better than that, but still has >enough security problems that I would rather not trust it in a server >environment. My personal choice is OpenBSD, available at www.openbsd.org. Now we're just getting way out there--way beyond anything I want to deal with! :-) Beyond my scope of skill or need, I think. - Randy Whittle From cph Sun Nov 28 12:44:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA21937 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:44:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02981; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:44:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:42:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02851; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:42:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot022.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02838; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:42:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot022.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.122 -> pilot022.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:42:55 -0500 Received: from andres (pm452-10.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.116]) by pilot022.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA28944 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:42:52 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991128124234.009f1210@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:42:34 -0500 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Web Server using a ThinkPad? In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991128093242.033af100@rcf.usc.edu> References: <3.0.6.32.19991128121637.009ed100@pilot.msu.edu> <4.2.0.58.19991127222456.033ab7e0@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Understood Randy. And that is exactly what some friends of mine said. I can appreciate not wanting to deal with it, but you need to. But thats all I'll say about it. Good luck. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 09:35 AM 11/28/1999 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: >At 12:16 PM 11/28/1999 -0500, you wrote: >>If you are going to put up a web server that will be noticed by more >>than just a few people, security is going to be a major pain for you. >>I'm sorry to say that most web servers out there are in really bad >>shape in this regard. > > Offhand, I don't particularly care to worry about it at the >moment. Mainly it would be for myself and a few select people to >access. I'm not going to advertise it--not even going to get a domain name >for it. > > When/if I do, then I'll worry about security. > >>NT is a crawling horror. Linux is far better than that, but still has >>enough security problems that I would rather not trust it in a server >>environment. My personal choice is OpenBSD, available at www.openbsd.org. > > Now we're just getting way out there--way beyond anything I want >to deal with! :-) > > Beyond my scope of skill or need, I think. > >- Randy Whittle > > From cph Sun Nov 28 13:32:56 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA22058 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:32:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04398; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:32:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:30:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04248; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:30:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04231; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:30:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:30:27 -0500 Received: from user-38lco8t.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lco8t.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.97.29]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA27187 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:30:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911281830.NAA27187@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> From: "Allan" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:31:03 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <019d01bf39c6$8c03f280$65088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP765 Recovery CD List-Unsubscribe: My 760CD did not have a Recovery CD, so I turned one up for a 765D. SFAIK, it should be the same except for video and the TP utility. The problem is that, after booting from the diskette, it only loads so far, just past the CD driver. Something about daisy chain flashes by, then it reboots over and over. How can I get this to work? I tried downloading the file off the IBM site to make a new boot disk, but get the same results. I also tried to use a Win 5 start up disk, but the same results. Any advice would be appreciated. Allan From cph Sun Nov 28 13:43:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA22071 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:43:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04768; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:42:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:41:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04621; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:41:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04608; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:41:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.39 -> mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:41:26 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.16.52]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991128184124.TFGB16984@compaq>; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:41:24 +0000 Message-ID: <3841A15B.2932@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:40:43 -0800 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP765 Recovery CD References: <199911281830.NAA27187@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Most recovery CD's seem only to work with the machine they are intended for, this may be the problem. Allan wrote: > > My 760CD did not have a Recovery CD, so I turned > one up for a 765D. SFAIK, it should be the same > except for video and the TP utility. > > The problem is that, after booting from the diskette, > it only loads so far, just past the CD driver. Something > about daisy chain flashes by, then it reboots over > and over. > > How can I get this to work? > > I tried downloading the file off the IBM site to make > a new boot disk, but get the same results. > > I also tried to use a Win 5 start up disk, but the > same results. > > Any advice would be appreciated. > > Allan From cph Sun Nov 28 14:03:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA22116 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:03:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05765; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:02:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:00:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05619; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:00:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.means.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05606; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:00:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.means.net (206.9.64.100 -> Orion.Means.Net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:00:51 -0500 Received: from orion (h.204.73.46.75.acetelephone.com [204.73.46.75]) by orion.means.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA26841; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:00:43 -0600 (CST) From: "The Weber's" To: "Paul Khoury" , <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, , Subject: TP 760CD MWave Modem: Fixed - thanks Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:00:44 -0600 Message-ID: <000101bf39d2$df7eae80$4b2e49cc@orion> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I was able to get the modem working after runing "ps2 imodem add 2". Thanks for the help, I forgot about the ps2 command (part of think pad utility) Tj From cph Sun Nov 28 14:10:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA22162 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:10:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06041; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:09:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:08:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05942; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:08:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05929; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:08:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.49 -> scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:08:14 -0500 Received: from miles (ip195.an11-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.22.195]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA22449; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:08:08 -0800 (PST) From: "David Newman" To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:08:08 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <199911280849.AAA26518@stevie.loop.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: > > > >I put W2K beta 2 on an old 760c with no problems. I didn't use any IBM > >drivers either; W2K recognized Mwave for sound and modem support (but I > >ended up using a Megahertz PCMCIA modem anyway because it was 56K). > > > Did you get sound, or did you have to do some file renaming? Nope, sound worked fine with a stock installation. I didn't need to tweak anything. > On your machine, how long does it take to boot? > Mine takes several minutes at the most... > Ditto -- around five minutes, or at least it felt that way. W2K really needs *at least* 64M of RAM no matter what MS says (anyone ever try running W95 with MS's claimed 4M minimum? ;-). But for the patient it will work with less memory. dn From cph Sun Nov 28 14:18:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA22182 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:18:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06564; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:17:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:16:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06408; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:16:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06387; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:16:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.49 -> scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:16:14 -0500 Received: from miles (ip195.an11-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.22.195]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA25430; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:16:09 -0800 (PST) From: "David Newman" To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" , "David Ross" Subject: RE: Web Server using a ThinkPad? Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:16:10 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <199911280903.BAA26973@stevie.loop.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: > I don't know if you can download IIS for free (Internet > Information Server), > which is MS' web server. > It's included free with NT Server. It doesn't run with NT workstation. dn From cph Sun Nov 28 14:19:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA22187 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:19:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06566; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:17:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:16:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06361; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:16:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06346; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:16:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.49 -> scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:16:10 -0500 Received: from miles (ip195.an11-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.22.195]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA25395 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:16:07 -0800 (PST) From: "David Newman" To: Subject: RH Linux 6.1 and 3Com 3c575 on 600E? Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:16:07 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Anyone had any luck getting Red Hat Linux (any version) on a Thinkpad 600E to see 3Com's 3c575B adapter? This is a CardBus card. I've had no problem getting Linux to see this same card on other Thinkpads (a 560, two 760s, and two 770s), but for some reason I just can't get it to load on the 600E. IBM has good instructions for installing RH6.0 on its Web page, and I went so far as to wipe the 6.1 installation and go back to 6.0, but still no luck. This seems to be something with the 3c575. I've also tried using the IRQ, memory, and I/O settings from an NT partition, but again no luck. Any pointers much appreciated. Thanks. dn From cph Sun Nov 28 14:27:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA22209 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:27:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06993; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:26:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:25:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06850; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:25:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06828; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:24:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:24:57 -0500 Received: from user-38lco8t.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lco8t.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.97.29]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA25660; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:24:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911281924.OAA25660@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> From: "Allan" To: "scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:25:31 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <3841A15B.2932@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP765 Recovery CD List-Unsubscribe: Maybe. It is curious that the routine will start and then hang, though. Maybe it doesn't like the Dock II. Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:40:43 -0800, Bruce Markowitz wrote: >Most recovery CD's seem only to work with the machine they are intended >for, this may be the problem. > >Allan wrote: >> >> My 760CD did not have a Recovery CD, so I turned >> one up for a 765D. SFAIK, it should be the same >> except for video and the TP utility. >> >> The problem is that, after booting from the diskette, >> it only loads so far, just past the CD driver. Something >> about daisy chain flashes by, then it reboots over >> and over. >> >> How can I get this to work? >> >> I tried downloading the file off the IBM site to make >> a new boot disk, but get the same results. >> >> I also tried to use a Win 5 start up disk, but the >> same results. >> >> Any advice would be appreciated. >> >> Allan From cph Sun Nov 28 14:31:57 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA22216 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:31:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07274; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:30:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:29:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07154; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:29:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07141; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:29:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.49 -> scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:29:18 -0500 Received: from miles (ip195.an11-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.22.195]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA00123 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:29:15 -0800 (PST) From: "David Newman" To: Subject: FW: RH Linux 6.1 and 3Com 3c575 on 600E? Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:29:17 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Oops, I misspoke -- I didn't try the 3c575 on the 560 or 760s -- dunno if either are CardBus-compatible. It worked on 2 770s, though. dn > -----Original Message----- > From: David Newman [mailto:dnewman@networktest.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 2:16 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: RH Linux 6.1 and 3Com 3c575 on 600E? > > > > Anyone had any luck getting Red Hat Linux (any version) on a Thinkpad 600E > to see 3Com's 3c575B adapter? This is a CardBus card. > > I've had no problem getting Linux to see this same card on other Thinkpads > (a 560, two 760s, and two 770s), but for some reason I just can't > get it to > load on the 600E. IBM has good instructions for installing RH6.0 > on its Web > page, and I went so far as to wipe the 6.1 installation and go > back to 6.0, > but still no luck. This seems to be something with the 3c575. I've also > tried using the IRQ, memory, and I/O settings from an NT partition, but > again no luck. > > Any pointers much appreciated. Thanks. > > dn > > From cph Sun Nov 28 15:41:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA22403 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:41:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09599; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:40:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:40:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09521; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:40:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09508; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:40:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:40:12 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax3.vramp.net [198.138.8.66]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA23123; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:40:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01ee01bf39e0$d9016cb0$65088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Allan " , References: <199911281830.NAA27187@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> Subject: Re: TP765 Recovery CD Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:40:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: "Allan" wrote: > My 760CD did not have a Recovery CD, so I turned > one up for a 765D. SFAIK, it should be the same > except for video and the TP utility. > > The problem is that, after booting from the diskette, > it only loads so far, just past the CD driver. Something > about daisy chain flashes by, then it reboots over > and over. > > How can I get this to work? You can't. The recovery disk is machine specific and unless it receives the proper ID from the machine during the boot process, you wind up in the daisy chain of repetitive boots. (See my posts from last week about trying to boot a 755 with my 760 recovery disk for the answer to "how does he know that!"). > I tried downloading the file off the IBM site to make > a new boot disk, but get the same results. Did you DL the 760 or 765 boot disk from the IBM site? AFAIK, the CDs from the 760 and 765 are the same, with the exception of the utility files, and you should be able to use the 760 recovery disk to boot and then load from the CD. > I also tried to use a Win 5 start up disk, but the > same results. I assume you mean Win95 here Allan, but were you trying to load Win95 or were you trying to use the Win95 boot disk to read the recovery CD? The former should run with no problem, the latter won't work as the files are all compressed on the CD. Regards, James From cph Sun Nov 28 16:01:27 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA22473 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:01:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10109; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:50:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:50:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10036; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:50:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10023; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:50:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:50:26 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax3.vramp.net [198.138.8.66]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA23646; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:50:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <021101bf39e2$4379c870$65088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Allan " , Cc: References: <199911281924.OAA25660@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> Subject: Re: TP765 Recovery CD Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:50:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: "Allan" wrote: > Maybe. It is curious that the routine will start > and then hang, though. Maybe it doesn't like > the Dock II. Whoa!! Lose the Dock II! While you're _supposed_ to be able to recover the unit while docked, I've never heard of anyone successfully doing it. The 760 recovery disk will allow you to select to "hot swap" the CD and 3.5 drives during recovery. Regards, James From cph Sun Nov 28 16:02:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA22479 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:02:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10280; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:53:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:53:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10194; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:53:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10181; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:53:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:53:01 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax3.vramp.net [198.138.8.66]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA23790; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:52:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <021701bf39e2$a2516a60$65088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: , "Allan" Cc: References: <199911281830.NAA27187@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> <3841A15B.2932@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: TP765 Recovery CD Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:53:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: "Bruce Markowitz" wrote: > Most recovery CD's seem only to work with the machine they are intended > for, this may be the problem. It's been my experience that it's more important to have the correct boot disk. Regards, James From cph Sun Nov 28 16:31:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA22572 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:31:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11848; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:30:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:30:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11748; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:30:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11735; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:30:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:30:25 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA16972; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:30:18 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001701bf39e7$c7147ae0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "STeve Andre'" , "Randal Whittle" Cc: "ThinkPad List" References: <3.0.6.32.19991128121637.009ed100@pilot.msu.edu> Subject: Re: Web Server using a ThinkPad? Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:30:20 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > If you are going to put up a web server that will be noticed by more > than just a few people, security is going to be a major pain for you. > I'm sorry to say that most web servers out there are in really bad > shape in this regard. Steve is right, and it doesn't matter if you only advertise the site to a few friends; any static IP is going to be probed by hacker bots. The ports on the PC in my office are being probed all the time, and the only reason the thing has so far resisted attack is that I have all free ports locked up (using 3rd party app), plus I don't serve anything off it except proxy over the phone (my web page is served off our Sun network). The server software on Linux is supposedly more secure than that on NT, but the OS is itself potentially very open to attack. My university is a big target for hackers (don't know why, but it sucks), and entry is often traced back to Linux boxes. There has been a problem in that many people install a full Linux on their machines to get all the functionality, but don't know enough to secure it. This has been given a lot of attention lately by Linux distributors, and I think increasingly distributions either default to high security, or include decent instructions for locking down the system. It is not hard, but takes attention. - David From cph Sun Nov 28 16:52:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA22611 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:52:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12709; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:51:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:51:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12631; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:50:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12617; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:50:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:50:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06510; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:50:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:50:45 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Paul Khoury cc: ThinkPad List , David Ross Subject: Re: Web Server using a ThinkPad? In-Reply-To: <199911280903.BAA26973@stevie.loop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I would say give FreeBSD + Apache a try. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Sun Nov 28 17:23:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA22700 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:23:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14358; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:12:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:12:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14284; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:12:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14271; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:12:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:12:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06588; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:12:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:12:24 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: "James H. E. Maugham" cc: James , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads In-Reply-To: <018501bf39c4$39cd6ac0$65088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, James H. E. Maugham wrote: > "James" wrote: > > > James, > > How is the performance on the 760XL with Win2K? Like do you feel slower > than > > Win95/98? Or about the same speed? > > I've only got the old MKI eyeball to answer this with as I haven't run any > utilities to check, but my subjective opinion is Win2K is faster than Win95 > or NT4 and slightly slower than Win98. Hmmm, I always thought Win98 was slower than Win95. Can Win2k still run DOS apps since he only reason I am asking is that there are still some utilities from the 10-20 years of using the PC that is somewhat useful. > But, that could be simply a case of being very happy with Win98 (SE) on the > machines I have setup to dual boot with Win2K. After much tweaking and > tuning they all run for weeks at a time 24/7 without any BSOD's or other > problems under 98. So far they appear to be just as stable under Win2K. Speaking about BSOD's. On my desktop machine which was using Win98SE, I had some stuff on D: which I merged with C: as I got a larger IBM 34GXP 34 GIG UDMA66 HD and then used Partition Magic's DriveMapper Utility to chnage everything referenced to D: to C: and the system would boot with a Windows Protection Error. So I reinstalled Win98SE and upon the Win98 Setup program of setting up hardware and finalizing settings during the setting up your hardware and any plug and play devices you may have, the only thing I get is the BSOD of some fatal exception 0E, 0D, 06 at 0028:XXXXXX and I can't figure out what is causing it. I can boot into safe mode without problems and the win.ini, registry files, and system.ini all look okay since I had them disabled with msconfig but without any success. Even when doing the step by step bootup by not loading any windows device drivers, I still get the blue screen. Anyone have any ideas how I can fix this? > I wish I could say the same for NT4 (SP3). > > You will all have to excuse me for the rest of the day. It appears that my > daughter brought a virus home from college and has infected my son's > machine. It's dead!!!! > > Why he had VirusScan turned off I will NEVER understand. Now that really sucks.... Hope you can get that machine fixed soon. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Sun Nov 28 17:26:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA22704 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:26:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17997; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:25:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:20:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16905; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:20:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot003.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16891; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:20:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot003.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.103 -> pilot003.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:20:03 -0500 Received: from andres (pm451-22.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.80]) by pilot003.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA15168 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:19:56 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991128171926.009e3a00@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:19:26 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads In-Reply-To: References: <018501bf39c4$39cd6ac0$65088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Vincent, try this: boot your machine into Safe Mode and go into the \windows directory. Find what I think will be called SMARTDRV.EXE, and rename it to something like SMARTDRV.EX. Then reboot and see if the world isn't better. I have seen this kind of blowup MANY times on Win 95, and at least once with Win 98. After considerable pulling of hair and staring at the damed OS, I came to the conclusion that the invokation of SMARTDRV was causing my problem. ...This isn't really a fix, but a patch. Something is still wrong, but at least it (in my cases) won't rise up and nip you in the ass. Try this and let me know. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 02:12 PM 11/28/1999 -0800, Vincent Poy wrote: >On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, James H. E. Maugham wrote: > >> "James" wrote: >> >> > James, >> > How is the performance on the 760XL with Win2K? Like do you feel slower >> than >> > Win95/98? Or about the same speed? >> >> I've only got the old MKI eyeball to answer this with as I haven't run any >> utilities to check, but my subjective opinion is Win2K is faster than Win95 >> or NT4 and slightly slower than Win98. > > Hmmm, I always thought Win98 was slower than Win95. Can Win2k >still run DOS apps since he only reason I am asking is that there are >still some utilities from the 10-20 years of using the PC that is somewhat >useful. > >> But, that could be simply a case of being very happy with Win98 (SE) on the >> machines I have setup to dual boot with Win2K. After much tweaking and >> tuning they all run for weeks at a time 24/7 without any BSOD's or other >> problems under 98. So far they appear to be just as stable under Win2K. > > Speaking about BSOD's. On my desktop machine which was using >Win98SE, I had some stuff on D: which I merged with C: as I got a larger >IBM 34GXP 34 GIG UDMA66 HD and then used Partition Magic's DriveMapper >Utility to chnage everything referenced to D: to C: and the system would >boot with a Windows Protection Error. So I reinstalled Win98SE and upon >the Win98 Setup program of setting up hardware and finalizing settings >during the setting up your hardware and any plug and play devices you may >have, the only thing I get is the BSOD of some fatal exception 0E, 0D, 06 >at 0028:XXXXXX and I can't figure out what is causing it. I can boot into >safe mode without problems and the win.ini, registry files, and system.ini >all look okay since I had them disabled with msconfig but without any >success. Even when doing the step by step bootup by not loading any >windows device drivers, I still get the blue screen. Anyone have any >ideas how I can fix this? > >> I wish I could say the same for NT4 (SP3). >> >> You will all have to excuse me for the rest of the day. It appears that my >> daughter brought a virus home from college and has infected my son's >> machine. It's dead!!!! >> >> Why he had VirusScan turned off I will NEVER understand. > > Now that really sucks.... Hope you can get that machine fixed >soon. > > >Cheers, >Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ >Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] >GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] >Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] >HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > > > From cph Sun Nov 28 18:14:15 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA22942 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:14:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25391; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:12:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25289; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:12:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25276; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:12:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (206.127.32.35 -> tam.dorsai.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:12:38 -0500 Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA04896 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:17:43 -0500 (EST) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id SAA10171 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:17:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911282317.SAA10171@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: NYC Repair Shop?? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad list) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:17:37 -0500 (est) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: whoops, I'm out of warranty and my TP 560e is shot. Either the AC adapter is toast, or the power supply itself is fritzed. I'm going to order (or borrow) an extra adapter to check it out. But if it's fried, any suggestions on a reliable, speedy NYC repair shop? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph Sun Nov 28 19:01:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA23126 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:01:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02086; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:00:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:59:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02002; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:59:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01989; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:59:27 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (192.134.240.50 -> uhbhic.uhb.fr) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:59:27 -0500 Received: from tp560 (cb1342.rec.uhb.fr [172.16.5.12]) by uhbhic.uhb.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with SMTP id AAA30440 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:59:24 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3841C2AF.8CB@uhb.fr> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:02:55 +0100 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: 560z/770ed power bricks compatibility Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Could anyone tell me whether I can swap power bricks between a 770ed and a 560z ? I think the specs read the same, but you never know... From cph Sun Nov 28 19:17:46 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA23178 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:17:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02871; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:16:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02792; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:16:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02779; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.206.132 -> dh-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:16:48 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) id TAA09286 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:16:47 -0500 (EST) Sender: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Received: from andrew (cr848826-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.85.35]) by hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) with SMTP id TAA09220 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:16:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911290016.TAA09220@hpdmraaa.compuserve.com> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:16:32 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP600 travelling in UK? List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:07:07 -1000, David Ross wrote: >You might find that you don't even need an adapter in the >UK - many UK bathrooms have shaver sockets on the wall, >and these will accept US plugs. (Of course, this means >using the battery except in the loo.) Just don't get the TP mixed up! [sorry] But surely the shaver outlet will be ungrounded? I shouldn't be using that with my computer! (Should I?). I like your idea of the power cable. I remember when I was in England many years ago, all appliances came without a plug. Someone said it was because for 20 (or 30 or 40 or whatever) years, the UK had been planning on a new standard, but it never happened. Meanwhile they kept selling appliances plugless in case a new standard leapt on the scene! I checked at Radio Shack today and they want C$5 (~U$3.65) for an ungrounded UK power adapter. Which isn't that much cheaper than the U$4 from the Utah site. This adapter had a plastic third prong (as does the $4 ungrounded one on the site). The RS guy was trying to tell me that they're all like that, but I don't believe him (it only had two jacks on the North-America side, so it wouldn't be any use to my TP anyway). I think the UK phone adapter was about C$12, which _is_ much cheaper than the U$13 (C$20) online. Staples had a Samsonite travel site (multiple adapters, 4+3 I think?) for C$27, which really isn't that much more than $12 for the phone and (estimating) $9 for the grounded power at RS. andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Sun Nov 28 19:47:11 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA23368 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:47:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04046; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:44:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03963; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:44:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from usc.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03946; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:44:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from usc.edu (128.125.253.136 -> usc.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:44:07 -0500 Received: from rcf-fs.usc.edu (root@rcf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.19.166]) by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id QAA01290; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:44:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-225-008.usc.edu [128.125.225.8]) by rcf-fs.usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id QAA14414; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:44:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991128162953.0337c9b0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:42:53 -0800 To: "David Ross" From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Web Server using a ThinkPad? Cc: TP List In-Reply-To: <001701bf39e7$c7147ae0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> References: <3.0.6.32.19991128121637.009ed100@pilot.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 11:30 AM 11/28/1999 -1000, you wrote: > > If you are going to put up a web server that will be noticed by more > > than just a few people, security is going to be a major pain for you. > > I'm sorry to say that most web servers out there are in really bad > > shape in this regard. > >Steve is right, and it doesn't matter if you only advertise the site to a few >friends; any static IP >is going to be probed by hacker bots. The ports on the PC in my office are >being probed all the time, and the only reason the thing has so far resisted >attack is that I have all free ports locked up (using 3rd party app), plus I >don't serve anything off it except proxy over the phone (my web page is served David (and Steve), I'm new to this stuff, so bear with me if you will please. :-) If I *don't* run a server--just use the "normal" DSL connection to have a fast internet connection for my own purposes--what do I have to do in terms of security (or...what do I have to worry about?). I'm talking about just having my desktop Win 98 machine on it and my laptop (same thing--W98), both on static IP connections (though to tell the truth, I'd probably turn off the desktop when not in use, and the same goes for the laptop). If all I'm doing is surfing the web and getting e-mail, what kind of attacks should I worry about in this static IP DSL configuration, and what can I do to guard against them? Oh yes--the two machines would be peer-networked using W98's basic built-in stuff--mainly to be able to share files & etc., not to have anything act as a server. But I like to keep two copies of my working files (one on laptop, another on desktop) for continuing backup/safety purposes. While nothing is important enough to threaten national security, I'd still rather not share it all with the world. :-) - Randy Whittle From cph Sun Nov 28 20:03:17 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA23447 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:03:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05040; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:02:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:01:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04927; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:01:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot003.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04886; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:01:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot003.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.103 -> pilot003.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:01:35 -0500 Received: from andres (pm559-03.dialip.mich.net [35.9.49.105]) by pilot003.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA47884; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:01:31 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991128200128.009ee210@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:01:28 -0500 To: Randal Whittle From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Web Server using a ThinkPad? Cc: TP List In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991128162953.0337c9b0@rcf.usc.edu> References: <001701bf39e7$c7147ae0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> <3.0.6.32.19991128121637.009ed100@pilot.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: We'll bear with you... If we can make you better understand the problems of putting equipment on the net, then I for one will feel glad to have taken the time to talk of this. There really are an incredible number of machines out there on the net that are just waiting to be plundered; the fact that they haven't been is mostly due to the fact that the vandals haven't found out about them yet. OK, so you aren't thinking of running a server--my apologies, I thought you were. But having a couple of Windows machines on the net without some form of protection for them reminds me of little sheep in a pasture with hungry wolves about. This *is* an apt analogy: the facilities in Windows to do things like printer and file sharing are great, *in an environment where you can trust everyone*. To that extent, MS abilities are nifty. But put such machines on the net itself and you have an absolute recipe for disaster, if a vandal finds them. I've not thought about this yet, the idea of having some statically addressed Windows machines on the net like you are planning on doing, but a firewall of some sort is *really* needed. Something which will keep packets out from all the ports that you don't want them to wander around, and to a line of defense for those who would break the peer to peer file sharing and steal (or mess up) files. David's talk about machines getting hit on by random port sniffers is indeed correct. It will happen, especially if some other machine in the DSL network is "popular", and brings notice to the world. If you have a little 486 box with about 32M of ram and a 300M of disk or so, you could make a firewall out of OpenBSD, and let that be your defender. I would really do that if I were you, if you plan on keeping the machines on. If you really do turn things off when you aren't using them then you are safer, but I'm not sure how much. If you go to the openBSD web site (www.openbsd.org) there are some pointers somewhere there about building up a firewall, or perhaps its at damonnews.org. But the doc exists to do this. I realize we're pretty far off topic of the TP mailing list; apologies to those who might think watching paint dry is preferable to listening to this talk. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 04:42 PM 11/28/1999 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: >At 11:30 AM 11/28/1999 -1000, you wrote: >> > If you are going to put up a web server that will be noticed by more >> > than just a few people, security is going to be a major pain for you. >> > I'm sorry to say that most web servers out there are in really bad >> > shape in this regard. >> >>Steve is right, and it doesn't matter if you only advertise the site to a few >>friends; any static IP >>is going to be probed by hacker bots. The ports on the PC in my office are >>being probed all the time, and the only reason the thing has so far resisted >>attack is that I have all free ports locked up (using 3rd party app), plus I >>don't serve anything off it except proxy over the phone (my web page is served > >David (and Steve), > > I'm new to this stuff, so bear with me if you will please. :-) > > If I *don't* run a server--just use the "normal" DSL connection to >have a fast internet connection for my own purposes--what do I have to do >in terms of security (or...what do I have to worry about?). > > I'm talking about just having my desktop Win 98 machine on it and >my laptop (same thing--W98), both on static IP connections (though to tell >the truth, I'd probably turn off the desktop when not in use, and the same >goes for the laptop). > > If all I'm doing is surfing the web and getting e-mail, what kind >of attacks should I worry about in this static IP DSL configuration, and >what can I do to guard against them? > > Oh yes--the two machines would be peer-networked using W98's basic >built-in stuff--mainly to be able to share files & etc., not to have >anything act as a server. But I like to keep two copies of my working >files (one on laptop, another on desktop) for continuing backup/safety >purposes. While nothing is important enough to threaten national security, >I'd still rather not share it all with the world. :-) > >- Randy Whittle > > From cph Sun Nov 28 20:36:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA23529 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:36:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06601; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:35:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:35:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06499; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:35:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from usc.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06486; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:35:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from usc.edu (128.125.253.136 -> usc.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:35:31 -0500 Received: from rcf-fs.usc.edu (root@rcf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.19.166]) by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id RAA19233; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:35:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-225-008.usc.edu [128.125.225.8]) by rcf-fs.usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id RAA22020; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:35:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991128171706.0338bee0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:34:20 -0800 To: "STeve Andre'" From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Web Server using a ThinkPad? Cc: TP List In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991128200128.009ee210@pilot.msu.edu> References: <4.2.0.58.19991128162953.0337c9b0@rcf.usc.edu> <001701bf39e7$c7147ae0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> <3.0.6.32.19991128121637.009ed100@pilot.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 08:01 PM 11/28/1999 -0500, you wrote: >We'll bear with you... If we can make you better understand the problems >of putting equipment on the net, then I for one will feel glad to have >taken the time to talk of this. There really are an incredible number >OK, so you aren't thinking of running a server--my apologies, I thought >you were. On the contrary, I *was* thinking about it--you all just scared me off of the idea. Actually, I'll still consider it, but with less rose-colored glasses now. I don't "have" to run a server--I just figured it might be an interesting thing to toy with, since I'll have a DSL line running into my place of residence and a free static IP to work with. And I asked the question in this forum because I figured a notebook machine might be the best way to go, given that I have space considerations to consider. >I've not thought about this yet, the idea of having some statically >addressed Windows machines on the net like you are planning on doing, I just wanted a DSL line for speed in accessing the net. It wasn't until we started having this discussion that I even realized that I need to consider outside intrusion into my little interior 2-machine (with 2 printers) network. Its certainly not something I ever think about or worry about when I dial-in. >but a firewall of some sort is *really* needed. Something which will >keep packets out from all the ports that you don't want them to wander >around, and to a line of defense for those who would break the peer to >peer file sharing and steal (or mess up) files. Oh yeah--that's what I want to avoid. :-) How to? >If you have a little 486 box with about 32M of ram and a 300M of disk >or so, you could make a firewall out of OpenBSD, and let that be your >defender. I would really do that if I were you, if you plan on keeping >the machines on. If you really do turn things off when you aren't using >them then you are safer, but I'm not sure how much. If you go to the >openBSD web site (www.openbsd.org) there are some pointers somewhere >there about building up a firewall, or perhaps its at damonnews.org. >But the doc exists to do this. I guess this is where I can download such things as OpenBSD too? I guess I'll have to wait until I get that DSL line installed so I have enough speed to do it without waiting for an eternity at 40-44 kbs. :-) Well then next question--lets assume I only have my 2 computers--the desktop & laptop, both running Win98. How do I protect them without buying yet another machine just to run OpenBSD as a firewall? What other options would exist? Is there perhaps a way to simply ask the ISP/DSL provider to protect me with some kind of firewall? (The provider I chose, BTW, is Concentric Networks--cost a bit more, but appeared to be more on-the-ball than the others I talked to regarding DSL, and they were confident enough that my satisfaction with their service would be excellent and thereby *not* stick me with a long-term contract, as all the others asked for). >I realize we're pretty far off topic of the TP mailing list; apologies >to those who might think watching paint dry is preferable to listening >to this talk. Further discussion on this...I'll take off-list. Thank you everyone, for your indulgence. - Randy Whittle From cph Sun Nov 28 21:00:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA23602 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:00:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07648; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:58:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07541; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:58:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07528; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:58:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (206.184.139.14 -> proxy2.ba.best.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:58:28 -0500 Received: from dgoldman (adsl-216-101-170-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.101.170.226]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id RAA17375 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:57:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.1.19991128175310.00da2580@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:58:33 -0800 To: "ThinkPad List" From: David Goldman Subject: TP380Z: Travel to Curacao Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: For those of you who travel more than I do, I will flying to Curacao shortly and need some ThinkPad advice before I go. Curacao is in the A-B-C islands, south of Florida. I've been told that the power is 110 volts but 50Hz. I have no details regarding the telephone system. Will my ThinkPad 380Z (2635-JBU) work properly at 50Hz? Will I need an adapter for the 3 prong plug to plug it in? Will I need any adapter for using the modem? Thanks in advance. -- David Goldman From cph Sun Nov 28 21:08:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA23648 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:08:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08027; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:07:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:07:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07950; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:07:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.wlv.netzero.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07937; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:07:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.wlv.netzero.net (209.247.163.52 -> mail2.wlv.netzero.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:07:02 -0500 Received: (qmail 24933 invoked by uid 0); 29 Nov 1999 02:06:56 -0000 Received: from pppa17-resaletucson2-3r1047.saturn.bbn.com (HELO netzero.net) (4.16.94.124) by mail2.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 1999 02:06:56 -0000 Message-ID: <3841DFA1.E7DE79DB@netzero.net> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:06:25 -0700 From: Juan-Carlos Lerman Reply-To: jclerm@aztec.asu.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Goldman , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP380Z: Travel to Curacao References: <4.2.1.19991128175310.00da2580@127.0.0.1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Re the power: Check the INPUT specs in your power adaptor. If it says 100-240V 50-60Hz the power is OK. -------------- David Goldman wrote: > > For those of you who travel more than I do, I will flying to > Curacao shortly and need some ThinkPad advice before I go. > > Curacao is in the A-B-C islands, south of Florida. I've been > told that the power is 110 volts but 50Hz. I have no details > regarding the telephone system. > > Will my ThinkPad 380Z (2635-JBU) work properly at 50Hz? > Will I need an adapter for the 3 prong plug to plug it in? > Will I need any adapter for using the modem? > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > David Goldman __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From cph Sun Nov 28 22:25:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA23948 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:25:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10951; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:18:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10734; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:18:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10718; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:17:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (216.98.165.6) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:18:01 -0500 Received: by BIGRED with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:19:39 -0600 Message-ID: <195C527E2345D311A97C009027856AB8095894@BIGRED> From: Greg Langham To: "'Martin Reed'" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: 570 W98, adding NT4 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:19:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I will be in the office in the morning and I will take a look at the CD and let you know. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Martin Reed [mailto:mreed@apple.com] Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 10:51 AM To: Greg Langham; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: 570 W98, adding NT4 Greg, > ... we are just using the native NT PC Card services without difficulty. Thanks for that confidence booster :-). I've subsequently been given a contact at IBM who reckons that all 570 come with the mystery Software Selection CD, and that this will contain CardWizard for NT. Anyone care to confirm or deny that from inspection of an actual CD, please? thanks martin From cph Sun Nov 28 23:11:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA24128 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:11:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12776; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:10:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:09:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12678; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:09:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12665; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (199.239.18.15 -> needToKnowBasis.leopard.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:09:46 -0500 To: "STeve Andre'" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.1a August 17, 1999 From: Steve Hultquist Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 04:16:42 GMT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on snowmass/Leopard(Release 5.0 |March 30, 1999) at 11/28/99 09:16:45 PM, Serialize complete at 11/28/99 09:16:45 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0015DCF587256838_=" List-Unsubscribe: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0015DCF587256838_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm typing this from a W2K machine (Beta RC 3 Build 2183 running on a 600E). It installed flawlessly (the mWave software is on the CD! The only thing I had to put on was the Utilities). It runs very well, suspend and resume work great (even with the 10/100 3Com CardBus card installed), and it even does very well with power management. Overall, I like it well enough to move my production Windows machine to it (probably within the next week or so). This is a big step, since I've stayed on 95/98 for the power management, etc. and really prefer Linux. ssh "STeve Andre'" 11/27/1999 05:59 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads Whats the status of Win2K on ThinkPads? I'm pretty sure I've seen some comments from beta testing folks on this list before. In general, I'd like to know how it interacts with ThinkPads, and in general--how stable it is, how much of a resource hog, etc. Thanks! --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu --=_alternative 0015DCF587256838_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
I'm typing this from a W2K machine (Beta RC 3 Build 2183 running on a 600E). It installed flawlessly (the mWave software is on the CD! The only thing I had to put on was the Utilities). It runs very well, suspend and resume work great (even with the 10/100 3Com CardBus card installed), and it even does very well with power management. Overall, I like it well enough to move my production Windows machine to it (probably within the next week or so). This is a big step, since I've stayed on 95/98 for the power management, etc. and really prefer Linux.

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"STeve Andre'" <andres@msu.edu>

11/27/1999 05:59 PM

       
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        Subject:        Windows 2000 on ThinkPads


   Whats the status of Win2K on ThinkPads?  I'm pretty sure I've seen
some comments from beta testing folks on this list before.
   In general, I'd like to know how it interacts with ThinkPads, and
in general--how stable it is, how much of a resource hog, etc.
   Thanks!
--STeve Andre'
andres@msu.edu

--=_alternative 0015DCF587256838_=-- From cph Mon Nov 29 00:52:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA24479 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:52:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16066; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:37:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:36:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15977; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:36:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15963; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:36:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (198.206.134.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:36:20 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-22.gate.net [207.36.212.22]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA34772; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:36:10 -0500 Message-ID: <384210DD.EF1EF627@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:36:29 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net CC: "James H. E. Maugham" , David Ross , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 References: <383C2224.81EC25B6@icanect.net> <002c01bf36b3$af45db20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> <00a101bf36f1$34cf6ad0$43088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <383E09EE.B07D881A@icanect.net> <383E48B8.13C3@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------497F01A897EB272BE90D2721" List-Unsubscribe: --------------497F01A897EB272BE90D2721 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bruce... OK.. :-) you may be correct and i should NOT have assumed..! Bruce Markowitz wrote: > I recently had a Toshiba Tecra with a metal "security" tag on the > bottom. It stated an 800 number to call if you "found" the laptop, and > that the tag could not be removed. Of course I removed the tag, and > underneath there was a type of "tape" emblazoned with the words: > STOLEN PROPERTY CALL 1-800-STOLEN PROPERTY (or some such, I don't > remember the number). > Fact is, I bought the machine wth the box, manuals and all the goodies. > I called Toshiba, and the original registered owner is the guy I bought > it from!! > So, this was some stupid anti-theft device, but did not at all mean the > laptop was stolen. > It was stupid, because how can you resell it with something like that on > it? > Bottom line, the one on ebay may not be stolen - some folks have a > password set up with that logo telling you to call the number, because > they bought that service from someone. > OF course, if you call the number, they are not going to give you the > password! > I do think the buyer is screwed, but I question whether the machine is > stolen - I would not just assume. > > Bill Morrow wrote: > > > > Amazing is it not..!! > > selling what APPEARS to be a stol... uhhh... MISappropriated! machine > > and people are actually bidding on it.. > > and its up to $1100 now.. > > > > "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: > > > > Dave, > > > > > BTW, has anyone heard of/done business with EX/Portable? > > They showed up > > in my > > > pricescan > > > search with lots of very low prices on older model > > laptops, including a > > TP600 > > > P2-233 for > > > $1600 that is tempting the heck out of me. > > > > There's often several 600s on eBay and the 233 to 266 MHz > > units all seem to > > go for around $1K to $1.2K loaded with RAM. The PII 300s go > > for a lot more, > > I don't really know why. > > > > There's even a BIOS password protected one being offered at > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=205737511 > > where the > > seller has the temerity to complain that when he contacted > > the 800 number > > displayed on the screen on startup, they declined to give > > him the password > > and asked him to return their machine. Obviously he didn't > > feel obligated to > > do so. > > > > BTW, the bid for the unit is up to $660.00. I hope that it > > doesn't simply > > have the BIOS password set but also the Supervisor password, > > in which case > > the purchaser is screwed! > > > > Regards, > > > > James > > > > -- > > Happy trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net --------------497F01A897EB272BE90D2721 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bruce...

OK..  :-) <sheepish grin>
you may be correct and i should NOT have assumed..!

Bruce Markowitz wrote:

I recently had a Toshiba Tecra with a metal "security" tag on the
bottom. It stated an 800 number to call if you "found" the laptop, and
that the tag could not be removed. Of course I removed the tag, and
underneath there was a type of "tape" emblazoned with the words:
STOLEN PROPERTY CALL 1-800-STOLEN PROPERTY (or some such, I don't
remember the number).
Fact is, I bought the machine wth the box, manuals and all the goodies.
I called Toshiba, and the original registered owner is the guy I bought
it from!!
So, this was some stupid anti-theft device, but did not at all mean the
laptop was stolen.
It was stupid, because how can you resell it with something like that on
it?
Bottom line, the one on ebay may not be stolen - some folks have a
password set up with that logo telling you to call the number, because
they bought that service from someone.
OF course, if you call the number, they are not going to give you the
password!
I do think the buyer is screwed, but I question whether the machine is
stolen - I would not just assume.

Bill Morrow wrote:
>
> Amazing is it not..!!
> selling what APPEARS to be a stol...  uhhh... MISappropriated! machine
> and people are actually bidding on it..
> and its up to $1100 now..
>
> "James H. E. Maugham" wrote:
>
>      Dave,
>
>      > BTW, has anyone heard of/done business with EX/Portable?
>      They showed up
>      in my
>      > pricescan
>      > search with lots of very low prices on older model
>      laptops, including a
>      TP600
>      > P2-233 for
>      > $1600 that is tempting the heck out of me.
>
>      There's often several 600s on eBay and the 233 to 266 MHz
>      units all seem to
>      go for around $1K to $1.2K loaded with RAM. The PII 300s go
>      for a lot more,
>      I don't really know why.
>
>      There's even a BIOS password protected one being offered at
>      http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=205737511
>      where the
>      seller has the temerity to complain that when he contacted
>      the 800 number
>      displayed on the screen on startup, they declined to give
>      him the password
>      and asked him to return their machine. Obviously he didn't
>      feel obligated to
>      do so.
>
>      BTW, the bid for the unit is up to $660.00. I hope that it
>      doesn't simply
>      have the BIOS password set but also the Supervisor password,
>      in which case
>      the purchaser is screwed!
>
>      Regards,
>
>      James
>
> --
> Happy trails...
>
> ** Bill Morrow **   :-)
> WEB page http://thinkpads.com
> e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net
>

--
Happy trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
WEB page http://thinkpads.com
e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net
  --------------497F01A897EB272BE90D2721-- From cph Mon Nov 29 01:30:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA24592 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:30:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16979; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:55:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:55:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16906; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:55:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16893; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:55:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (198.206.134.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:55:30 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-22.gate.net [207.36.212.22]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA45908; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:55:27 -0500 Message-ID: <38421562.38353336@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:55:46 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Burean CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Help References: <002b01bf3948$3e8fc020$6fccfea9@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: remove battery, try again on AC only.. Brad Burean wrote: > My mother-in-law > > who is in her 70's decided she wanted email access to he family, I lent her > a 701c which worked > perfectly. > > Well to make a long story short, she forgot how to shut down the computer, > and w95 so she just > yanked the plug at the wall. Now the computer won't boot or power on at > all, any ideas? -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Mon Nov 29 01:33:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA24600 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:33:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17910; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:16:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:16:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17832; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:16:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17819; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:16:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (206.184.139.14 -> proxy2.ba.best.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:16:33 -0500 Received: from dgoldman (adsl-216-101-170-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.101.170.226]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id WAA08965 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:14:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.1.19991128221301.00bd3f00@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:16:22 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Re: TP380Z: Travel to Curacao In-Reply-To: <3841DFA1.E7DE79DB@netzero.net> References: <4.2.1.19991128175310.00da2580@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Thanks to all who posted or wrote me directly. The power adaptor DOES indicate 100-240V, 50/60Hz, so I'll be OK without any power adaptor. I can only assume that the power outlet in the hotel room will allow my plug to be used directly. Also, I've been privately informed that the telephone cord will probably work just fine. There just isn't a better, faster way to get Thinkpad support then asking the members of this mailing list. Thanks again to all. -- David Goldman At 06:06 PM 11/28/1999 , Juan-Carlos Lerman wrote: >Re the power: > >Check the INPUT specs in your power adaptor. > >If it says 100-240V > 50-60Hz >the power is OK. > >-------------- > >David Goldman wrote: > > > > For those of you who travel more than I do, I will flying to > > Curacao shortly and need some ThinkPad advice before I go. > > > > Curacao is in the A-B-C islands, south of Florida. I've been > > told that the power is 110 volts but 50Hz. I have no details > > regarding the telephone system. > > > > Will my ThinkPad 380Z (2635-JBU) work properly at 50Hz? > > Will I need an adapter for the 3 prong plug to plug it in? > > Will I need any adapter for using the modem? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > -- > > David Goldman >__________________________________________ >NetZero - Defenders of the Free World >Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at >http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- David Goldman From cph Mon Nov 29 01:42:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA24633 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:42:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18057; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:19:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:19:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17983; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:19:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from oberon.dnai.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17969; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:19:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from oberon.dnai.com (207.181.194.97 -> oberon.dnai.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:19:03 -0500 Received: from THINK (dnai-216-15-88-178.cust.dnai.com [216.15.88.178]) by oberon.dnai.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA13331; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:18:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <00a001bf3a31$a0cad880$0311a8c0@THINK> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Steve Hultquist" Cc: "ThinkPad List" References: Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:19:01 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009D_01BF39EE.9262C750" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01BF39EE.9262C750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve, Typing this on a TP 600 running RC2 build 2128. Did you get hold of a more recent TP Utilities than the 1999/10/20 set = on the ThinkPad web site? If not be careful of telling the power management to switch off the = display and also be aware that those TP Utilities have a known bug with = consuming Kernel handles. Look for a message entitled "TP600: Windows = 2000 ThinkPad Utility warning" from Mike Geary in this newsgroup. Seems very stable for me otherwise. Did anything significant change for the ThinkPad with RC3, that you are = aware of? Enjoy! David ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Steve Hultquist=20 To: STeve Andre'=20 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu=20 Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 8:16 PM Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads I'm typing this from a W2K machine (Beta RC 3 Build 2183 running on a = 600E). It installed flawlessly (the mWave software is on the CD! The = only thing I had to put on was the Utilities). It runs very well, = suspend and resume work great (even with the 10/100 3Com CardBus card = installed), and it even does very well with power management. Overall, I = like it well enough to move my production Windows machine to it = (probably within the next week or so). This is a big step, since I've = stayed on 95/98 for the power management, etc. and really prefer Linux.=20 ssh=20 "STeve Andre'" =20 11/27/1999 05:59 PM=20 =20 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu=20 cc: =20 Subject: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads=20 Whats the status of Win2K on ThinkPads? I'm pretty sure I've seen some comments from beta testing folks on this list before. In general, I'd like to know how it interacts with ThinkPads, and in general--how stable it is, how much of a resource hog, etc. Thanks! --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu=20 ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01BF39EE.9262C750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Steve,
 
Typing this on a TP 600 running RC2 build 2128.
 
Did you get hold of a more recent TP Utilities than the 1999/10/20 = set on=20 the ThinkPad web site?
 
If not be careful of telling the power management to switch off the = display=20 and also be aware that those TP Utilities have a known bug with = consuming Kernel=20 handles.  Look for a message entitled "TP600: Windows 2000 ThinkPad = Utility=20 warning" from Mike Geary in this newsgroup.
 
Seems very stable for me otherwise.
 
Did anything significant change for the ThinkPad with RC3, that you = are=20 aware of?
 
Enjoy!
David
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Steve = Hultquist=20
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 = 8:16=20 PM
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on=20 ThinkPads


I'm typing this = >from a W2K=20 machine (Beta RC 3 Build 2183 running on a 600E). It installed = flawlessly (the=20 mWave software is on the CD! The only thing I had to put on was the=20 Utilities). It runs very well, suspend and resume work great (even = with the=20 10/100 3Com CardBus card installed), and it even does very well with = power=20 management. Overall, I like it well enough to move my production = Windows=20 machine to it (probably within the next week or so). This is a big = step, since=20 I've stayed on 95/98 for the power management, etc. and really prefer=20 Linux.

ssh =



"STeve Andre'"=20 <andres@msu.edu>=20

11/27/1999 05:59 PM =

        =
        To: =    =20    thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
        cc:      =20  
    =  =20   Subject:        Windows 2000 on=20 ThinkPads


 =20  Whats the status of Win2K on ThinkPads?  I'm pretty sure = I've=20 seen
some comments from beta testing folks on this list=20 before.

   In general, = I'd like=20 to know how it interacts with ThinkPads, and
in general--how stable = it is,=20 how much of a resource hog, etc.

 =20  Thanks!

--STeve=20 Andre'
andres@msu.edu =

------=_NextPart_000_009D_01BF39EE.9262C750-- From cph Mon Nov 29 01:58:08 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA24658 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:58:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18512; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:30:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:30:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18438; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:30:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18422; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:30:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (206.180.224.3 -> tdl.tdl.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:30:39 -0500 Received: from chuck (pm1i-223.tdl.com [206.180.234.223]) by tdl.tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA14596 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:30:28 -0800 Message-Id: <199911290630.WAA14596@tdl.tdl.com> From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:30:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: FS: Port Replicator for 380/385/560 series Reply-to: cblaisd@tdl.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) List-Unsubscribe: I have one Extended Systems Port Replicator for sale. I've been using it with my 380ED, but the box says "Compatible with IBM 380/385/560 Series." This is NOT the the "fancier" replicator with PCMCIA slots, but the "plainer" one. Reason for selling is that I got one of the "fancier" ones to replace it. The **IBM** version (which this is NOT) retails for $155; see http://commerce.www.ibm.com/cgi- bin/ncommerce/SalesNav?partnum=46H4209&cntry=840&lang=en_US Don't know of a site selling the Extended Systems one, but Ebay has several **IBM** ones in the $50-100 range. I'd prefer not to go the auction route. So, if there's any interest on this list (U.S. shipping only) the best offer over $50 privately back to me by Tuesday at 5pm Pacific Time can take it. Thanks. From cph Mon Nov 29 02:35:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA24711 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 02:35:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19687; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 02:08:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 02:08:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19612; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 02:08:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from chupacabras.flash.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19597; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 02:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from chupacabras.flash.net (209.30.2.16 -> chupacabras.flash.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 02:08:12 -0500 Received: from s9i5e3 (216-215-77-236.flash.net [216.215.77.236]) by chupacabras.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA03491; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:08:07 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002701bf3a38$66de7da0$ec4dd7d8@s9i5e3> From: "Tom Collins" To: "Bill Morrow" , "Bob Munzenrider" Cc: Subject: Re: HELP! TP701 is Breaking down Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:07:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Craftsman makes a small set of TORX screwdrivers. I just checked and T6 is included. >those are T-6 Torx screws.. >> If not IBM shop (??? Easy Serve ???), where could I have him send his >> machine for repair? Or where could I get my hands on some of those little >> screws and an appropriate screwdriver? Or maybe I should have him take his >> machine to the tech guys at school and see if they can get the parts. From cph Mon Nov 29 02:44:20 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA24738 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 02:44:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20043; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 02:17:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 02:17:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19970; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 02:17:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19950; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 02:17:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 02:17:12 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA18845; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:17:05 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000e01bf3a39$c0228d60$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Andrew Webber" , "ThinkPad List" References: <199911290016.TAA09220@hpdmraaa.compuserve.com> Subject: Re: TP600 travelling in UK? Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:17:07 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > But surely the shaver outlet will be ungrounded? I shouldn't be > using that with my computer! (Should I?). The power bricks on all my laptops have no-ground plugs, so I don;t think this is a problem. > power cable. I remember when I was in England many years ago, all > appliances came without a plug. This is still sometimes true, but less often than it was. I don't believe that the UK has or ever had an intention of changing the plug standard, as most people I've spoken to there who have an opinion are convinced that the UK plug is superior to everyone elses (except maybe in terms of portability). They have one point: the fuse in the plug does decrease chance of fire, etc. > I checked at Radio Shack today and they want C$5 (~U$3.65) for an > ungrounded UK power adapter. Which isn't that much cheaper than > the U$4 from the Utah site. RS in Hawaii is currently selling a set of 4 adapters (for several European countries) for $11. It might be even cheaper on the mainland. However, like the one you've seen I expect it is groundless. I really don't think this is a big problem for laptops, except of course that if you have a grounded plug on your TP's plug then it won't plug into the adapter. BTW, on some TP power bricks, the 'hot' side is a standard 'kettle' adapter; one can buy these in the UK (of course with a UK plug) for around 2 pounds. (I kept one in my office, so I only had to carry the brick, not the wall wire, with me to work.) We has a discussion of this here a couple of months back. - David R. From cph Mon Nov 29 02:47:34 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA24742 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 02:47:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15883; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:34:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:33:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15755; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:33:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15742; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (198.206.134.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:33:12 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-22.gate.net [207.36.212.22]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA80514; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:33:01 -0500 Message-ID: <38421020.81A2C1CD@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:33:20 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Munzenrider CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: HELP! TP701 is Breaking down References: <199911252247.RAA236008@f04n07.cac.psu.edu> <199911260459.XAA50352@f04n07.cac.psu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Tom... those are T-6 Torx screws.. IBM used T-6 everywhere on the 701, except the front edge, which are T-1..!! yes, T-1, the smallest torx screws in existence.. i have a T-1 size driver and i can't see the 'bit' on the end of the handle..! :-) in any event, now we must learn WHY the screws have popped.. if they HAVE popped.. they MAY have just become unscrewed..! :-) or, some material failure on the case top..??! Bob Munzenrider wrote: > Bill - I'm looking at the 4 corners of the plastic frame around my 701 > screen even as I write. (My 701 screen is OK) Maybe those little > doo-hickies ARE screws & not rivets. Hmmmm. Now I'm looking with a > magnifying glass.... By golly, maybe those ARE little screws! I can see a > star-like pattern inside the indentations on the 4 screws around my screen. > > If not IBM shop (??? Easy Serve ???), where could I have him send his > machine for repair? Or where could I get my hands on some of those little > screws and an appropriate screwdriver? Or maybe I should have him take his > machine to the tech guys at school and see if they can get the parts. > > Thanks! > > BobM > Penn State Harrisburg > > At 11:40 PM 11/25/1999 -0500, you wrote: > >there are no rivets that i know of where you state.. > >are you sure these are not screws..?? > > > >its repairable..! > > > >for easy serve to do it the cost would be excessive unless the policy has > >changed to one that allows them to swap parts of the top rather than the > entire > >top assembly.. > > > >Bob Munzenrider wrote: > > > >> If it ain't broke, don't fix it, etc., but what if it's breaking down? > >> > >> A friend of mine has a TP701, and two of the four rivets on the plastic > >> frame around the LCD screen have popped. Does anyone out there know if this > >> is repair-able? Can the IBM repair shop replace these rivets? How many > >> arms & legs should such a repair cost? > >> > >> BobM > >> Penn State Harrisburg > > > >-- > >Happy trails... > > > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) > >WEB page http://thinkpads.com > >e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Mon Nov 29 03:07:45 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA24763 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 03:07:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16824; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:54:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:54:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16739; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:54:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16710; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:54:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (198.206.134.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:54:01 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-22.gate.net [207.36.212.22]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA43696; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:53:54 -0500 Message-ID: <38421505.743D5C87@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:54:13 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Ross CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Bob Munzenrider Subject: Re: HELP! TP701 is Breaking down References: <199911270422.XAA44574@f04n07.cac.psu.edu> <000b01bf3892$409ee8c0$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: since my "nits" are being picked clean hereabouts i must clear this point.. without digging a top assembly out of the parts stash, the 701, like all thinkpads i have seen in the past (naked, that is) have small brass "kept" nuts embedded within the top cover molding.. the screws screw into brass, not plastic.. what happens is the brass can come loose (under extreme or continual stress) and thus the screws will appear loose.. or they might just come loose.. and, most thinkpads now use some sort of locktite material on the screws.. David Ross wrote: > > Good point! I had been wondering about same myself. Onliest two > > possibilities I have been able to envision is that the screws either (1) > > worked loose from heat expansion/flexing/impacts, or (2) the threads are > > stripped - either on the screws themselves or in the screw-holes (whatever > > you call these). > > Probably (1). I have to tighten the screws on my 560 fairly regularly (adding > threadlock compound > has helped a bit). Steel on plastic is not a high-friction interface, and > these machines do flex and > vibrate a lot as part of their nature. > > - David R. -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Mon Nov 29 03:27:44 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA24819 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 03:27:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17548; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:09:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:09:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17447; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:09:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17434; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:09:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (198.206.134.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:09:39 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-22.gate.net [207.36.212.22]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA77284; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:09:35 -0500 Message-ID: <384218B2.55A4F187@icanect.net> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:09:54 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP765 Recovery CD References: <199911281830.NAA27187@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: There was no recovery CD for the 760CD when it was new.. they MAY have added one later on, with the P-120 version.. also, i think the 765 is different enough thast the recovery won't work the way ibm intended it to.. best bet is to unpack the image and copy it to the HDD... thats just my .002 cents worth.. :-) Allan wrote: > My 760CD did not have a Recovery CD, so I turned > one up for a 765D. SFAIK, it should be the same > except for video and the TP utility. > > The problem is that, after booting from the diskette, > it only loads so far, just past the CD driver. Something > about daisy chain flashes by, then it reboots over > and over. > > How can I get this to work? > > I tried downloading the file off the IBM site to make > a new boot disk, but get the same results. > > I also tried to use a Win 5 start up disk, but the > same results. > > Any advice would be appreciated. > > Allan -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net From cph Mon Nov 29 03:56:09 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA24867 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 03:56:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18727; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:35:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:34:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18621; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:34:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18607; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:34:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (199.239.18.15 -> needToKnowBasis.leopard.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:34:45 -0500 To: "David W. Taylor" Cc: "Steve Hultquist" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.1a August 17, 1999 From: Steve Hultquist Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 06:41:41 GMT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on snowmass/Leopard(Release 5.0 |March 30, 1999) at 11/28/99 11:41:44 PM, Serialize complete at 11/28/99 11:41:44 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00239C2387256838_=" List-Unsubscribe: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00239C2387256838_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Same utility set. No problems, yet, but thanks for the pointer! ssh "David W. Taylor" 11/28/1999 11:19 PM To: "Steve Hultquist" cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads Steve, Typing this on a TP 600 running RC2 build 2128. Did you get hold of a more recent TP Utilities than the 1999/10/20 set on the ThinkPad web site? If not be careful of telling the power management to switch off the display and also be aware that those TP Utilities have a known bug with consuming Kernel handles. Look for a message entitled "TP600: Windows 2000 ThinkPad Utility warning" from Mike Geary in this newsgroup. Seems very stable for me otherwise. Did anything significant change for the ThinkPad with RC3, that you are aware of? Enjoy! David ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Hultquist To: STeve Andre' Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 8:16 PM Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads I'm typing this from a W2K machine (Beta RC 3 Build 2183 running on a 600E). It installed flawlessly (the mWave software is on the CD! The only thing I had to put on was the Utilities). It runs very well, suspend and resume work great (even with the 10/100 3Com CardBus card installed), and it even does very well with power management. Overall, I like it well enough to move my production Windows machine to it (probably within the next week or so). This is a big step, since I've stayed on 95/98 for the power management, etc. and really prefer Linux. ssh "STeve Andre'" 11/27/1999 05:59 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads Whats the status of Win2K on ThinkPads? I'm pretty sure I've seen some comments from beta testing folks on this list before. In general, I'd like to know how it interacts with ThinkPads, and in general--how stable it is, how much of a resource hog, etc. Thanks! --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu --=_alternative 00239C2387256838_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Same utility set. No problems, yet, but thanks for the pointer!

ssh



"David W. Taylor" <davidt@dnai.com>

11/28/1999 11:19 PM

       
        To:        "Steve Hultquist" <ssh@leopard.com>
        cc:        "ThinkPad List" <thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>
        Subject:        Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads



Steve,
 
Typing this on a TP 600 running RC2 build 2128.
 
Did you get hold of a more recent TP Utilities than the 1999/10/20 set on  the ThinkPad web site?
 
If not be careful of telling the power management to switch off the display  and also be aware that those TP Utilities have a known bug with consuming Kernel  handles.  Look for a message entitled "TP600: Windows 2000 ThinkPad Utility  warning" from Mike Geary in this newsgroup.
 
Seems very stable for me otherwise.
 
Did anything significant change for the ThinkPad with RC3, that you are  aware of?
 
Enjoy!
David
----- Original Message -----
From:  Steve Hultquist  
To: STeve Andre'
Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 8:16  PM
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on  ThinkPads


I'm typing this from a W2K  machine (Beta RC 3 Build 2183 running on a 600E). It installed flawlessly (the  mWave software is on the CD! The only thing I had to put on was the  Utilities). It runs very well, suspend and resume work great (even with the  10/100 3Com CardBus card installed), and it even does very well with power  management. Overall, I like it well enough to move my production Windows  machine to it (probably within the next week or so). This is a big step, since  I've stayed on 95/98 for the power management, etc. and really prefer  Linux.

ssh



"STeve Andre'"  <andres@msu.edu>  

11/27/1999 05:59 PM
       
        To:         thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
        cc:         
         Subject:        Windows 2000 on  ThinkPads


    Whats the status of Win2K on ThinkPads?  I'm pretty sure I've  seen
some comments from beta testing folks on this list  before.

   In general, I'd like  to know how it interacts with ThinkPads, and
in general--how stable it is,  how much of a resource hog, etc.

    Thanks!

--STeve  Andre'
andres@msu.edu



--=_alternative 00239C2387256838_=-- From cph Mon Nov 29 04:25:49 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA24917 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 04:25:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24256; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 04:02:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 04:02:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24171; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 04:02:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24158; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 04:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 04:02:10 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p38.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.53]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA02226 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:01:27 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:01:27 -0800 (PST) Resent-Message-Id: <199911290901.BAA02226@stevie.loop.com> Message-Id: <199911290901.BAA02226@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" Resent-From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" X-Original-To: "David Newman" Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:03:42 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Web Server using a ThinkPad? List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:16:10 -0800, David Newman wrote: > >> I don't know if you can download IIS for free (Internet >> Information Server), >> which is MS' web server. >> >It's included free with NT Server. It doesn't run with NT workstation. That's what I figured, but that's also why I wasn't sure if you can download it for free for NT Wrkstn. I know you can download free trials of IBM's Webserver, which takes off SSL stuff after 60 days or so, but I never really got it to work, and didn't like it. For Apache, I'm quite happy with it - it's reliable and doesn't seem to hog tons of resources. Paul From cph Mon Nov 29 06:16:54 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA25210 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 06:16:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA05489; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 05:56:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 05:56:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA05411; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 05:56:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA05398; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 05:56:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 05:56:10 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [172.20.2.1]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04406 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:56:06 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [172.20.1.9]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA12112 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:56:05 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:56:01 +0000 To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: 755CX questions MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id GAA25211 I've just resurrected a 755CX which cost me $40 plus a swap for a 1GB hard disk drive, and it's a little better than my old 755C in a number of departments, so I'm going to use it as my main machine and the 755C can stay at home sitting on the DOCK I as a backup. It came complete with win 95 on the HDD, so I'm going to keep that as an alternative to my WFW and Linux hard disks. I've got a question about batteries, it came with a NiMH battery but I also have a couple of Li-ION batteries which will physically fit - although the voltage is higher. Will the 755CX grok both? The specs in twbook.pdf say so. How do you tell the difference between 640x480 and 800x600 screens? How do I tell if mwave is installed? What about 50MHz or 75MHz pentiums? Are thre any funky apps out there to use the IR port for various things, e.g. control VCR's, read/emulate remote controls, etc. ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Mon Nov 29 07:45:38 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA25598 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:45:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08543; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:20:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:19:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08458; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from sttlpop1.sttl.uswest.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08445; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:19:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from sttlpop1.sttl.uswest.net (206.81.192.1 -> sttlpop1.sttl.uswest.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:19:33 -0500 Received: (qmail 17014 invoked by alias); 29 Nov 1999 12:19:29 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 16972 invoked by uid 0); 29 Nov 1999 12:19:28 -0000 Received: from dialupw165.sttl.uswest.net (HELO c454306b) (216.160.86.165) by mail.sttl.uswest.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 1999 12:19:28 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01bf3a64$0b4e88a0$a556a0d8@c454306b> From: "p machule" To: "ThinkPad List" References: Subject: Re: 755CX questions Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 04:19:53 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Since you have twbook.pdf , most of your answers are there . Yes, Li-ION batteries work , the ones from the 760 E series work even better. They are smaller, lighter and have more power. The screen difference is obvious (grin), so I must not be understanding your question. All 755CX's were P75's with a 50Mhz system board. Since the darn things are sitting on a daughter card, it's rather tempting to stick a Winchip 3D in there ;-] If it has a modem port it has Mwave . If it has Mwave, it's the 800*600 version, AFAIK. ...peter... Subject: 755CX questions > > I've got a question about batteries, it came with a NiMH battery but I also have a couple of Li-ION batteries which will physically fit - although the voltage is higher. Will the 755CX grok both? The specs in twbook.pdf say so. > > How do you tell the difference between 640x480 and 800x600 screens? > > How do I tell if mwave is installed? What about 50MHz or 75MHz pentiums? > > Are thre any funky apps out there to use the IR port for various things, e.g. control VCR's, read/emulate remote controls, etc. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > Harston http://www.generics.co.uk > Cambridge CB2 5NH > United Kingdom > Registered in England No 2081960 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > From cph Mon Nov 29 07:52:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA25618 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:52:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09329; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:34:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:34:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09233; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:33:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09204; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:33:53 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [172.20.2.1]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05824; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:33:43 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [172.20.1.9]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA14217; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:33:41 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:33:29 +0000 To: "ThinkPad List" , "p machule" Subject: Re[2]: 755CX questions MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id HAA25619 Yes it's got the multi-connector on the side for the modem/telephone/headset. Might be useful if I could get a lead for it, although usually I'd prefer using my pcmcia 56k one. So that implies mwave which implies 800x600. I can select 800x600 in the W95 screen setup, but when I reboot it forces me back to 640x480 - why is this? I haven't seen any screen drivers at the IBM mobiles site for W95. Of course it could be a 640x480 with optional mwave installed. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: 755CX questions Author: MIME:"p machule" at INTERNET Date: 11/29/99 12:24 PM Since you have twbook.pdf , most of your answers are there . Yes, Li-ION batteries work , the ones from the 760 E series work even better. They are smaller, lighter and have more power. The screen difference is obvious (grin), so I must not be understanding your question. All 755CX's were P75's with a 50Mhz system board. Since the darn things are sitting on a daughter card, it's rather tempting to stick a Winchip 3D in there ;-] If it has a modem port it has Mwave . If it has Mwave, it's the 800*600 version, AFAIK. ...peter... Subject: 755CX questions > > I've got a question about batteries, it came with a NiMH battery but I also have a couple of Li-ION batteries which will physically fit - although the voltage is higher. Will the 755CX grok both? The specs in twbook.pdf say so. > > How do you tell the difference between 640x480 and 800x600 screens? > > How do I tell if mwave is installed? What about 50MHz or 75MHz pentiums? > > Are thre any funky apps out there to use the IR port for various things, e.g. control VCR's, read/emulate remote controls, etc. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > Harston http://www.generics.co.uk > Cambridge CB2 5NH > United Kingdom > Registered in England No 2081960 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Mon Nov 29 08:10:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA25661 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:10:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10288; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:51:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:51:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10185; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:51:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10029; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:47:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:47:18 -0500 Received: from p3-600 (client-151-204-210-32.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.32]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA02635 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:52:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991129075136.013afc20@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:51:36 -0800 To: "ThinkPad List" From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: 755CX questions In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: What's the model#?? 9545-SBx are 640x480 9545-HBx are 800x600 Make sure the TFT Laptop Panel under monitor type for mobile profile is set to the right type according to the model #. At 12:33 PM 11/29/1999 +0000, Adam Quantrill wrote: >Yes it's got the multi-connector on the side for the modem/telephone/headset. Might be useful if I could get a lead for it, although usually I'd prefer using my pcmcia 56k one. > >So that implies mwave which implies 800x600. I can select 800x600 in the W95 screen setup, but when I reboot it forces me back to 640x480 - why is this? I haven't seen any screen drivers at the IBM mobiles site for W95. > >Of course it could be a 640x480 with optional mwave installed. ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 609-293-9426 =-= Fax : 609-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Mon Nov 29 08:17:41 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA25693 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:17:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10717; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:59:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:58:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10621; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:58:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10608; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:58:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:58:55 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax31.vramp.net [198.138.8.94]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA13120; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:58:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000a01bf3a69$8db2b6e0$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Adam Quantrill" , "ThinkPad List" References: Subject: Re: 755CX questions Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:59:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF3A3F.A4147CE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF3A3F.A4147CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Adam Quantrill" wrote: I've just resurrected a 755CX which cost me $40 plus a swap for a 1GB = hard disk drive, and it's a little better than my old 755C in a number = of departments, so I'm going to use it as my main machine and the 755C = can stay at home sitting on the DOCK I as a backup. Quite a bit better actually IMHO. Pentium 75 for the CX vs. 486 for the = C. It came complete with win 95 on the HDD, so I'm going to keep that as an = alternative to my WFW and Linux hard disks. Do yourself a favor and hunt down a copy of Win95B and install that if = the machine doesn't already have it. You'll find it much more stable = than the original version. Also, max out the RAM at 40MB. 32MB RAM cards = are seen on eBay all the time and go for approx. US$75 or less. This = might seem like a lot of money to spend on a $40 machine, but you'll be = much happier with it if you're going to use it as your main machine. I've got a question about batteries, it came with a NiMH battery but I = also have a couple of Li-ION batteries which will physically fit - = although the voltage is higher. Will the 755CX grok both? The specs in = twbook.pdf say so. Yes, all the CX models will grok Li-Ion batteries. How do you tell the difference between 640x480 and 800x600 screens? The SB series CXs have the VGA screens, the HB series the SVGA. You can = definitely tell the difference when viewed, so I guess I don't = understand your question. How do I tell if mwave is installed? What about 50MHz or 75MHz pentiums? You'll see a splash screen in Win95 during boot. All the CXs are Pentium = 75s.=20 Are thre any funky apps out there to use the IR port for various things, = e.g. control VCR's, read/emulate remote controls, etc. I haven't heard of any, but it's an interesting concept. I'm sure though = that if they exist, someone on this list will know of them. Regards, James ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF3A3F.A4147CE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"Adam Quantrill" <aquantrill@scigen.co.uk>=20 wrote:
 
I've just resurrected a 755CX which cost me = $40 plus a=20 swap for a 1GB hard disk drive, and it's a little better than my old = 755C in a=20 number of departments, so I'm going to use it as my main machine and the = 755C=20 can stay at home sitting on the DOCK I as a backup.
 
Quite a bit better actually IMHO. Pentium 75 for = the CX=20 vs. 486 for the C.

It came complete with win 95 on the HDD, = so I'm=20 going to keep that as an alternative to my WFW and Linux hard=20 disks.
 
Do yourself a favor and hunt down a copy of = Win95B and=20 install that if the machine doesn't already have it. You'll find it much = more=20 stable than the original version. Also, max out the RAM at 40MB. 32MB = RAM cards=20 are seen on eBay all the time and go for approx. US$75 or less. This = might seem=20 like a lot of money to spend on a $40 machine, but you'll be much = happier with=20 it if you're going to use it as your main machine.

I've got a = question about batteries, it came with a NiMH battery but I also have a = couple=20 of Li-ION batteries which will physically fit - although the voltage is = higher.=20 Will the 755CX grok both? The specs in twbook.pdf say = so.
 
Yes, all the CX models will grok Li-Ion=20 batteries.

How do you tell the difference between 640x480 and = 800x600=20 screens?
 
The SB series CXs have the VGA screens, the HB = series the=20 SVGA. You can definitely tell the difference when viewed, so I guess I = don't=20 understand your question.

How do I tell if mwave is = installed? What=20 about 50MHz or 75MHz pentiums?
 
You'll see a splash screen in Win95 during boot. = All the=20 CXs are Pentium 75s.

Are thre any funky apps out there to = use the IR=20 port for various things, e.g. control VCR's, read/emulate remote = controls,=20 etc.
 
I haven't heard of any, but it's an interesting = concept.=20 I'm sure though that if they exist, someone on this list will know of=20 them.
 
Regards,
 
James


------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF3A3F.A4147CE0-- From cph Mon Nov 29 08:29:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA25731 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:29:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11461; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:12:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:12:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11383; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:12:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11370; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:12:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:12:05 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax31.vramp.net [198.138.8.94]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA13740; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:12:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001701bf3a6b$6e7200e0$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Adam Quantrill" , "ThinkPad List" , "p machule" References: Subject: Re: Re[2]: 755CX questions Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:12:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BF3A41.84B54260" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BF3A41.84B54260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Adam Quantrill" wrote: Yes it's got the multi-connector on the side for the = modem/telephone/headset. Might be useful if I could get a lead for it, = although usually I'd prefer using my pcmcia 56k one. Even if you do have the DSP upgrade, your maximum throughput with = software upgrades is 33.6K baud, and that not very reliably. 28.8 is = about the most you can expect on the DSP. Disable the DSP modem and = stick with your PCMCIA one, you'll be much happier. So that implies mwave which implies 800x600. I can select 800x600 in the = W95 screen setup, but when I reboot it forces me back to 640x480 - why = is this? I haven't seen any screen drivers at the IBM mobiles site for = W95. It's proof that 800X600 is not supported by your machine, ergo it must = be an SBJ or SBK model. Check the device driver matrix for specific = drivers for your machine at: = http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/support/thinkpad/tpopsys.html Of course it could be a 640x480 with optional mwave installed. My thoughts exactly. Regards, James ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BF3A41.84B54260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
"Adam Quantrill" <aquantrill@scigen.co.uk>=20 wrote:
 
Yes it's got the multi-connector on the side = for the=20 modem/telephone/headset. Might be useful if I could get a lead for it, = although=20 usually I'd prefer using my pcmcia 56k one.
 
Even if you do have the DSP upgrade, your = maximum=20 throughput with software upgrades is 33.6K baud, and that not very = reliably.=20 28.8 is about the most you can expect on the DSP. Disable the DSP modem = and=20 stick with your PCMCIA one, you'll be much happier.

So that = implies=20 mwave which implies 800x600. I can select 800x600 in the W95 screen = setup, but=20 when I reboot it forces me back to 640x480 - why is this? I haven't seen = any=20 screen drivers at the IBM mobiles site for W95.
 
It's proof that 800X600 is not supported by your = machine,=20 ergo it must be an SBJ or SBK model. Check the device driver matrix for = specific=20 drivers for your machine at: http://ww= w.pc.ibm.com/us/support/thinkpad/tpopsys.html
 
Of course it could be a 640x480 with = optional mwave=20 installed.
 
My thoughts exactly.
 
Regards,
 
James
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BF3A41.84B54260-- From cph Mon Nov 29 08:46:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA25810 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:46:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12627; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:34:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:34:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12515; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:34:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12502; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:34:22 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax31.vramp.net [198.138.8.94]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA14987; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:34:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003501bf3a6e$8b362be0$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: , "Bill Morrow" References: <383C2224.81EC25B6@icanect.net> <002c01bf36b3$af45db20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> <00a101bf36f1$34cf6ad0$43088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <383E09EE.B07D881A@icanect.net> <383E48B8.13C3@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> <384210DD.EF1EF627@icanect.net> Subject: Re: Misappropriated (?) TP600 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:35:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01BF3A44.A16A2B20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01BF3A44.A16A2B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry Bill, but that TP quacked like a duck & walked like a duck. I = can't believe that a phone call or three couldn't have proven that the = seller had the machine legitimately and he could have therefore gotten = the password. Apparently, if the ultimate selling price of US$1122.98 is any = indicator, the knowledge that removing the BIOS password from a 600 is a = simple matter has gotten around the laptop community. But, as I earlier = stated, if the Administrator password is also set, the purchaser is well = and truly screwed. I'm more than a bit surprised at the selling price as I see similar = machines going for less on eBay all the time. Regards, James ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Morrow=20 To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net=20 Cc: James H. E. Maugham ; David Ross ; ThinkPad List=20 Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 12:36 AM Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 Bruce...=20 OK.. :-) =20 you may be correct and i should NOT have assumed..!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01BF3A44.A16A2B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry Bill, but that TP quacked like a duck = & walked=20 like a duck. I can't believe that a phone call or three couldn't have = proven=20 that the seller had the machine legitimately and he could have therefore = gotten=20 the password.
 
Apparently, if the ultimate selling price of = US$1122.98 is=20 any indicator, the knowledge that removing the BIOS password from a 600 = is a=20 simple matter has gotten around the laptop community. But, as I earlier = stated,=20 if the Administrator password is also set, the purchaser is well and = truly=20 screwed.
 
I'm more than a bit surprised at the selling = price as I=20 see similar machines going for less on eBay all the time.
 
Regards,
 
James
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bill=20 Morrow
To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att= .net=20
Cc: James H. E. Maugham ; David Ross ;=20 ThinkPad=20 List
Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 = 12:36=20 AM
Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on = sale at=20 MicroWarehouse $1499

Bruce...=20

OK..  :-) <sheepish grin>
you may be correct and i = should=20 NOT have assumed..!

------=_NextPart_000_0032_01BF3A44.A16A2B20-- From cph Mon Nov 29 09:17:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA25937 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:17:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14910; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:15:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:15:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14825; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14812; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:15:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (18.27.0.167 -> sls.lcs.mit.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:15:26 -0500 Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (gummi [18.27.0.33]) by sls.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14051; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:15:11 -0500 (EST) Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-ID: <38428A6F.F02C6FB5@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:15:11 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "James H. E. Maugham" CC: rab@msn.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 600X memory specs References: <019d01bf39c6$8c03f280$65088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: > AFAIK the 600 memory works on all models. Definitely not! For example, the 64MB 76H0295 worked on early 770s and 600s, but it doesn't work on a 2645-4BU. Somewhere around the 300MHz models this memory stopped working. --Lee Hetherington From cph Mon Nov 29 09:19:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA25952 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:19:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15108; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:17:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:17:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15035; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:17:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15022; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:17:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (18.27.0.167 -> sls.lcs.mit.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:17:20 -0500 Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (gummi [18.27.0.33]) by sls.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14061; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:17:17 -0500 (EST) Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-ID: <38428AEC.5C6C8407@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:17:16 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Newman CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: RH Linux 6.1 and 3Com 3c575 on 600E? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have used a 3CCFE575BT with Red Hat 6.1. I believe I built my own kernel and pcmcia package though. I don't know if the stock Red Hat packages work with this card. Besides, I had to build my own kernel to configure APM properly. --Lee Hetherington From cph Mon Nov 29 09:24:28 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA25978 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:24:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15462; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:22:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:22:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15375; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:22:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15362; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:22:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.50 -> avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:22:17 -0500 Received: from miles (ip137.an11-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.22.137]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA20201; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 06:22:10 -0800 (PST) From: "David Newman" To: Cc: Subject: RE: RH Linux 6.1 and 3Com 3c575 on 600E? Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:22:12 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <38428AEC.5C6C8407@sls.lcs.mit.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: > > I have used a 3CCFE575BT with Red Hat 6.1. I believe I built my own > kernel and pcmcia package though. I don't know if the stock Red Hat > packages work with this card. Besides, I had to build my own kernel to > configure APM properly. > Thanks, Lee. I did manage to figure it out last night -- what's needed is version 3.X of the pcmcia-cs package, which is NOT included with RH6.1. I used version 3.0.14, available here: ftp://sourceforge.org/pcmcia/pcmcia-cs-3.0.14.tar.gz You're right about recompiling the kernel -- not only for APM, but also to throw out a bunch of stuff not needed (e.g., token ring and WAN support) and to add some stuff that is (in my case, read-only access to NTFS filesystems). dn From cph Mon Nov 29 09:36:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA26039 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:36:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16384; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:34:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:34:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16293; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from grace.speakeasy.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16276; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:34:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from grace.speakeasy.org (216.231.52.5 -> grace.speakeasy.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:34:25 -0500 Received: from 770z (atlanta-ip-1-8.dynamic.ziplink.net [209.206.51.8]) by grace.speakeasy.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id GAA09018; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 06:34:12 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Richard Chalk" To: , "David Newman" Cc: Subject: multiple copies of messages..help!! Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:33:15 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <38428AEC.5C6C8407@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List members... I have suddenly begun to receive 3 copies of all messages on the list. Anyone have any suggestions, or do you know how to contact the list manager? Should I try unsubscribing, and then resubscribe? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks., Richard From cph Mon Nov 29 09:44:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA26054 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:44:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16945; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:41:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:40:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16820; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16795; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:40:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:40:10 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax31.vramp.net [198.138.8.94]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA19643; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:40:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <007001bf3a77$ba97c110$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "I Lee Hetherington" Cc: , References: <019d01bf39c6$8c03f280$65088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <38428A6F.F02C6FB5@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Subject: Re: 600X memory specs Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:40:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006D_01BF3A4D.D0DF9670" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01BF3A4D.D0DF9670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "I Lee Hetherington" wrote: > "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: >=20 > > AFAIK the 600 memory works on all models. >=20 > Definitely not! For example, the 64MB 76H0295 worked on early 770s = and 600s, > but it doesn't work on a 2645-4BU. Somewhere around the 300MHz models = this > memory stopped working. Whoa! I bow to VASTLY greater knowledge Lee. :-) But there's only 2 SoDIMMs that don't work on all 600 models according = to the IBM website, the 76H0293 and the 76H0295, apparently because = they're 66MHz. (?) Regards, James ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01BF3A4D.D0DF9670 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"I Lee Hetherington" <ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu>=20 wrote:
 
> "James H. E. Maugham" wrote:
> =
> >=20 AFAIK the 600 memory works on all models.
>
> Definitely = not! =20 For example, the 64MB 76H0295 worked on early 770s and 600s,
> but = it=20 doesn't work on a 2645-4BU.  Somewhere around the 300MHz models=20 this
> memory stopped working.
Whoa! I bow to VASTLY greater knowledge Lee.=20 :-)
 
But there's only 2 SoDIMMs that don't work on = all 600=20 models according to the IBM website, the 76H0293 and the 76H0295, = apparently=20 because they're 66MHz. (?)
 
Regards,
 
James
------=_NextPart_000_006D_01BF3A4D.D0DF9670-- From cph Mon Nov 29 09:47:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA26079 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:46:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17304; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:44:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17224; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:44:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17211; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:44:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.28 -> cpimssmtpu07.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:44:34 -0500 Received: from ppro200 - 63.14.59.136 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 06:44:34 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Richard A. Bilancia" To: Subject: RE: 600X memory specs Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:44:10 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF3A3D.B28CC810" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF3A3D.B28CC810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you both VERY much for the feed back! James, What is the IBM website URL you've looked at? Rich -----Original Message----- From: James H. E. Maugham [mailto:CaptJHEM@waterw.com] Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 7:41 AM To: I Lee Hetherington Cc: rab@msn.com; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 600X memory specs "I Lee Hetherington" < ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu> wrote: > "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: > > > AFAIK the 600 memory works on all models. > > Definitely not! For example, the 64MB 76H0295 worked on early 770s and 600s, > but it doesn't work on a 2645-4BU. Somewhere around the 300MHz models this > memory stopped working. Whoa! I bow to VASTLY greater knowledge Lee. :-) But there's only 2 SoDIMMs that don't work on all 600 models according to the IBM website, the 76H0293 and the 76H0295, apparently because they're 66MHz. (?) Regards, James ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF3A3D.B28CC810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank=20 you both VERY much for the feed back!
 
James,
 
What=20 is the IBM website URL you've looked at?
 
Rich
-----Original Message-----
From: James H. E. = Maugham=20 [mailto:CaptJHEM@waterw.com]
Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 = 7:41=20 AM
To: I Lee Hetherington
Cc: rab@msn.com;=20 thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Re: 600X memory=20 specs

"I Lee Hetherington" <ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu>=20 wrote:
 
> "James H. E. Maugham" wrote:
> =
> >=20 AFAIK the 600 memory works on all models.
>
> Definitely=20 not!  For example, the 64MB 76H0295 worked on early 770s and=20 600s,
> but it doesn't work on a 2645-4BU.  Somewhere = around the=20 300MHz models this
> memory stopped working.
Whoa! I bow to VASTLY greater knowledge Lee.=20 :-)
 
But there's only 2 SoDIMMs that don't work on = all 600=20 models according to the IBM website, the 76H0293 and the 76H0295, = apparently=20 because they're 66MHz. (?)
 
Regards,
 
James
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF3A3D.B28CC810-- From cph Mon Nov 29 09:47:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA26083 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:47:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17455; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:45:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:44:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17350; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:44:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from c008.sfo.cp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17337; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:44:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from c008.sfo.cp.net (209.228.14.208 -> c008-h019.c008.sfo.cp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:44:57 -0500 Received: (cpmta 8534 invoked from network); 29 Nov 1999 06:44:54 -0800 Received: from okc2A-hfc-0251-d8d85778.ok.coxatwork.com (HELO concentric.net) (216.216.87.120) by smtp.okc.coxatwork.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 1999 06:44:54 -0800 X-Sent: 29 Nov 1999 14:44:54 GMT Message-ID: <38429167.4DA578DB@concentric.net> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:44:55 -0600 From: "Robert D. Baron" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 600 in Paris References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I expect to be in Paris next week and will probably take my TP600 (model 26454U) along. I've got the requisite power cord plug converter and have ordered a telephone jack converter, although I'm not sure I'll need the latter: I'll be staying at a pretty deluxe property in the Sheraton chain, and according to its web site the phones have data ports. My isp is Concentric and it has local dialup numbers in Paris. So what am I missing? Will I have to alter the modem string to connect? The IBM support pages have a suggestion about changing the modem string to connect with France Minitel....is that what I'll be connecting to? Should I pack my Hello Direct Linestein in case the phone system is digital? (I always use my IBM modem saver before connecting anywhere.) Many thanks, --Bob Baron From cph Mon Nov 29 11:04:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA26636 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:04:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23029; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:03:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:02:29 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22871; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:02:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:02:28 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id KAA27274 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:52:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA23722; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 03:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (17.254.0.51 -> mail-out2.apple.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 03:51:39 -0500 Received: from mailgate2.apple.com ([17.129.100.225]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA23742 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:51:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from scv1.apple.com (scv1.apple.com) by mailgate2.apple.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:51:36 -0800 Received: from martini ([17.66.49.3]) by scv1.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA03864 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:51:33 -0800 (PST) From: "Martin Reed" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: TP600 travelling in UK? Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:50:23 -0000 Message-Id: <001001bf3a46$c63d6fa0$750c4511@martini.euro.apple.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <199911290016.TAA09220@hpdmraaa.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: >From the other side of the pond ... > >You might find that you don't even need an adapter in the > >UK - many UK bathrooms have shaver sockets on the wall, > >and these will accept US plugs. (Of course, this means > >using the battery except in the loo.) Shaver socket will most likely be limited current (I forget exactly what) as it goes through a small safety transformer, although probably enough for a TP. Typically there will be both a 220V and 110V outlet, try to use the 220V if poss as the current will be less. Decent units have a current trip anyway. > But surely the shaver outlet will be ungrounded? I shouldn't be > using that with my computer! (Should I?). I like your idea of the > power cable. I remember when I was in England many years ago, all > appliances came without a plug. Someone said it was because for 20 > (or 30 or 40 or whatever) years, the UK had been planning on a new > standard, but it never happened. Meanwhile they kept selling > appliances plugless in case a new standard leapt on the scene! Yes, shaver sockets will be 2 pin, hence ungrounded. Actually, a lot of minor domestic appliances are ungrounded these days due to the introduction many years ago of double shielded construction. Certainly low power stuff like mains powered radios. So the ground pin on on many of our exquisitely engineered :-) three pin plugs can often be plastic. I wouldn't dispute that the plug itself is marginally larger than it needs to be (but at least it will be fused, as someone said). However, there is a point to the ground pin , which is that you can *not* get the power pins in unless the ground pin is inserted (or you perform life threatening tricks with a small screwdriver, not that I've ever done that you understand). The ground pin is slightly longer and moves aside a protective plate in the socket covering the power holes. Thus, small children and engineers are largely unable to their toys in the power holes. Two pin systems with optional ground don't get this feature. > I checked at Radio Shack today and they want C$5 (~U$3.65) for an > ungrounded UK power adapter. Which isn't that much cheaper than > the U$4 from the Utah site. You can pick these up at virtually any airport and in quite a few stores in major cities. But I'd certainly get myself one in advance for peace of mind. US$4 seems a moderate cost for that peace. Most travel adaptors will cover the bulk of Europe. > This adapter had a plastic third prong (as does the $4 ungrounded > one on the site). The RS guy was trying to tell me that they're > all like that, but I don't believe him (it only had two jacks on > the North-America side, so it wouldn't be any use to my TP anyway). FWIW, never seen a grounded adaptor and doubt that they exist (you shouldn't be putting something that actually needs ground through a flimsy adaptor). The TP lead is going to be two wire anyway ie no ground. > I think the UK phone adapter was about C$12, which _is_ much > cheaper than the U$13 (C$20) online. > Staples had a Samsonite travel site (multiple adapters, 4+3 I > think?) for C$27, which really isn't that much more than $12 for > the phone and (estimating) $9 for the grounded power at RS. FYI, nearly every country in Europe has its own telephone socket design (and if you think that the UK mains plug is silly you ain't seen anything yet). UK deregulated telecoms a while back (not true everywhere else), so the The Phone Company Police are a lot less concerned about rounding up uncertified modems (and in fairness, they are a lot safer these days). Worth checking your modem supplier whether they have a country configuration program to tweak the modem to local conditions (eg dial tone). Another correspondent mentioned a kettle lead. I haven't seen the brick in question, but yes it is common to see either that kind of connector or one generally called an IEC connector (much smaller), both of which are indeed in common use around Europe. Many a kettle or radio has gone strangely quiet around a laptop user. Finally, someone else mentioned that we tend to sell power cords/leads without plugs because we couldn't make our minds up :-). Actually, virtually all appliances come with a 3 pin plug molded on to the cord these days for safety, especially double earthed/no ground wire domestic stuff. Safety. cheers martin PS Yes, there was a plan to introduce an even safer and more bizarre (don't ask) mains plug system ~15 years back, but cost and general apathy killed it. PPS That was probably more info than anyone wanted, but feel free to ask followup questions (or disagree with me) From cph Mon Nov 29 11:54:25 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA27064 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:54:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28053; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:52:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:52:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27929; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:52:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ares.actionwebs.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27910; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ares.actionwebs.net (208.244.215.3 -> dns1.actionwebs.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:52:05 -0500 Received: from hades ([208.244.215.242]) by ares.actionwebs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA00174; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:49:06 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Mark Lemon" To: "'David Ross'" , "'Andrew Webber'" Cc: "'ThinkPad List'" Subject: RE: TP600 travelling in UK? Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:50:58 -0600 Message-ID: <005d01bf3a92$4b8e0ca0$7700a8c0@hades.Olympus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <000a01bf3966$ce339e40$0237a8c0@math.hawaii.edu> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I just got back from the UK (London) with 2 TP 600's - Win98 and NT4.0 Bought a 3 prong US->UK adapter from Boots (local UK pharmacy). The 2 prong didn't work since the TP brick cord has a ground. Same problem with the shaver adapter for the plug found in the bathroom. Bought a UK->US phone plug adapter, unplugged their phone, plugged in either laptop, and started dialing. Other than putting in the proper commas to get the AT&T 800 number to fire, never had a problem with either unit. No changes to settings required. Note that we found it was quicker and simpler to make a long distance call to our local ISP once a day to u/l and D/L than to try and figure out international AOL or other options. Usually connected about 24K, which is normal for the Winmodems anyway. Hope this helps, Mark <> > > You might find that you don't even need an adapter in the UK - many UK > bathrooms have shaver sockets on the wall, and these will > accept US plugs. > (Of course, this means using the battery except in the loo.) > > - David R. > > From cph Mon Nov 29 12:05:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA27198 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:05:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29163; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:04:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:03:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29070; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:03:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28945; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:02:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (38.8.20.2 -> relay20.smtp.psi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:02:40 -0500 Received: from [204.215.186.11] (helo=ntmail.doble.com) by relay20.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 11sUC9-0001Ll-00; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:02:33 -0500 Received: by NTMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:00:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'David Newman'" , Paul Khoury , ThinkPad List , David Ross Subject: Crusing on the Internet with a Windows networked machine Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:00:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I think a person should even do some steps if he uses the internet sporadically. I noticed (with W95 at least) that DUN defaults to allow all the protocols over the dialup connection. This makes it easier to call up a server at work and have access to the company network. This can also lead to problems. One item a person warned me about is having unpassworded shares on your machine. It is easy to slip into since you only connect the thinkpad up to your network and you are the only user, right? Wrong. If you connect up to the internet those unpassworded shares are available through your dial up connection to other computers on the internet. There are sniffer programs that can check for unpassworded shares. Not being 7/24 on the net with a static ip lessens the chance for attack but I would not tempt fate. So all my home shares are passworded and I only enable PPP on the DUN when I use Windows for internet. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com From cph Mon Nov 29 13:25:58 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA27940 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:25:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07314; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:24:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:23:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07138; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:23:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07125; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:23:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.19 -> mtiwgwc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:23:34 -0500 Received: from sony ([12.79.163.6]) by mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991129182332.GDBB13394@sony> for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:23:32 +0000 Message-ID: <3842C34C.634E@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:17:48 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: EZSERVE is at it again! References: <383C2224.81EC25B6@icanect.net> <002c01bf36b3$af45db20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> <00a101bf36f1$34cf6ad0$43088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <383E09EE.B07D881A@icanect.net> <383E48B8.13C3@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> <384210DD.EF1EF627@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Sent a 760XL in for a new keyboard. They have it on "billing hold". They want to charge me $357.00 to replace the keyboard, although they say they are also replacing the motherboard under warranty! So far, no explanation, athough I think that "customer abuse" is about to rear it's ugly head. Funny thing, this is a mint unit! Anyway, what is the URL for Boulder Parts, I think someone said that the keyboard is around $46.00, if need be I'll just buy one and install it myself. BTW, this is the fifth TP I have had in there in the last two weeks, all the others were repaired and sent back in one day! Go figure. From cph Mon Nov 29 13:58:01 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA28194 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:58:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10656; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:56:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:55:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10573; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:55:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10540; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (24.112.32.20 -> smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:55:49 -0500 Received: from mail.on.rogers.wave.ca ([24.112.32.4]:48475 "EHLO mail.on.rogers.wave.ca" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <512787-9783>; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:55:03 -0500 Received: from cr394328-a.rchrd1.on.wave.home.com ([24.112.93.189]:1240 "HELO actprod" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mail.on.rogers.wave.ca with SMTP id <324675-14218>; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:55:27 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991129135525.00abaca0@mail.netrover.com> X-Sender: nractc03@mail.netrover.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:55:25 -0500 To: From: Tom Trottier Subject: Re: HELP! TP701 is Breaking down In-Reply-To: <002701bf3a38$66de7da0$ec4dd7d8@s9i5e3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Also, in Canada, the T-6 is included in a set of 15-odd small Torx, Phillips & slot screwdrivers available for ~$15 at Canadian Tire. At 01:07 1999/11/29 -0600, Tom Collins wrote: >Craftsman makes a small set of TORX screwdrivers. I just checked and T6 is >included. > >>those are T-6 Torx screws.. > >>> If not IBM shop (??? Easy Serve ???), where could I have him send his >>> machine for repair? Or where could I get my hands on some of those >little >>> screws and an appropriate screwdriver? Or maybe I should have him take >his >>> machine to the tech guys at school and see if they can get the parts. ------------------ From:Tom Trottier, 400 Slater St. Suite 415,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 __o Voice: +1 613 291-1168 fax(no ads, please): 594-5412 _ \< "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein (*)/'(*) TomTrottier@hotmail.com From cph Mon Nov 29 13:59:16 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA28208 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:59:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10342; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:53:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:52:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10205; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:52:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10192; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:52:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:52:42 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax14.vramp.net [198.138.8.77]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA11593; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:52:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00c601bf3a9b$048e26b0$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: , References: Subject: Re: 600X memory specs Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:53:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C3_01BF3A71.1A7BCE20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01BF3A71.1A7BCE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard, http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/LWIK-3TLS8K.html for the memory options. I _strongly_ urge you to visit the Thinpad support site and register. = You'll get a personalized page that allows you to view everything about = all of the machines you register. This also goes for your Aptivas, = docking stations and monitors. They'll also send you email when new = drivers are released for your units. http://www.pc.ibm.com/support?lang=3Den_US&page=3Dbrand&brand=3DIBM+Think= Pad Regards, James ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Richard A. Bilancia=20 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu=20 Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 9:44 AM Subject: RE: 600X memory specs Thank you both VERY much for the feed back! =20 James, =20 What is the IBM website URL you've looked at? =20 Rich ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01BF3A71.1A7BCE20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Richard,
 
http://www.pc.i= bm.com/qtechinfo/LWIK-3TLS8K.html for=20 the memory options.
 
I _strongly_ urge you to visit the Thinpad = support site=20 and register. You'll get a personalized page that allows you to view = everything=20 about all of the machines you register. This also goes for your Aptivas, = docking=20 stations and monitors. They'll also send you email when new drivers are = released=20 for your units.
 
http://www.pc.ibm.com/support?lang=3Den_US&page=3D= brand&brand=3DIBM+ThinkPad
 
Regards,
 
James
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Richard = A.=20 Bilancia
Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 = 9:44=20 AM
Subject: RE: 600X memory = specs

Thank you both VERY much for the feed=20 back!
 
James,
 
What=20 is the IBM website URL you've looked at?
 
Rich
------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01BF3A71.1A7BCE20-- From cph Mon Nov 29 14:14:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA28318 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:14:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12090; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:12:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:12:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11986; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:12:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11973; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:12:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:12:29 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA21134; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:12:21 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <002801bf3a9d$ac150b40$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: , "'Andrew Webber'" Cc: "'ThinkPad List'" References: <005d01bf3a92$4b8e0ca0$7700a8c0@hades.Olympus> Subject: Re: TP600 travelling in UK? Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:12:25 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > Bought a UK->US phone plug adapter, unplugged their phone, plugged in either > laptop, and started dialing. Other than putting in the proper commas to get > the AT&T 800 number to fire, never had a problem with either unit. No > changes to settings required. That is somewhat because you were calling what is essentialy a US telephone, with US-style rings, etc., though would also be OK for a UK ISP if you had no scripting based on ring or carrier detect. BTW, I found that with ibm.net (now owned by AT&T), it was cheaper to phone the US (using a very cheap long distance service) than to use the UK number and pay the out-of-region roaming charges. Ridiculous. Best though was to get a "free" internet account with a UK ISP. I would recommend this for anyone staying for more than a couple of weeks. (I was very happy with www.free-online.co.uk). With many of these ISPs you can set up an account before even going to England, through their web site. (BTW, these "free" accounts are paid for from kickbacks off the telephone connect charges; this ended up being very reasonable for us at cheap-rate times, though we were lucky not to have to use British Telecom.) Incidentally, if anyone knows a US national ISP with international numbers and no extra charges for out-of-region connects (other than AOL and its subsidiaries), please let me know. - David R. From cph Mon Nov 29 14:18:39 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA28373 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:18:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12733; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:16:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:16:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12650; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from noah.caer.uky.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12635; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:15:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from noah.caer.uky.edu (128.163.36.11 -> noah.caer.uky.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:16:00 -0500 Received: from bonza ([128.163.36.40]) by noah.caer.uky.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA04861 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:18:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991129141350.01d69820@noah.caer.uky.edu> X-Sender: lafferty@noah.caer.uky.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:15:48 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Chris Lafferty Subject: Re: FS: Port Replicator for 380/385/560 series In-Reply-To: <199911290630.WAA14596@tdl.tdl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: You can also find the enhanced port replicators for the 560x for sale in the outlet section of www.necx.com. They are currently listed at $68 with free shipping and a 1 year IBM warranty. Chris Lafferty From cph Mon Nov 29 14:36:55 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA28475 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:36:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14138; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:34:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:33:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13967; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:33:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rpi.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13942; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:32:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rpi.edu (128.113.100.7 -> mail.rpi.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:33:00 -0500 Received: from notebook (poliwag-57.dynamic.rpi.edu [128.113.195.226]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA71260 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:32:50 -0500 From: "A Kumar" To: "List Thinkpad" Subject: RE: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 (fwd) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:34:44 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19991124210613.00f1fd20@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Um, no. Celaron's are very close in speed to PII. They both use the same core, but the celaron's have less 2L cache that runs at the same speed as the processor while the PII's cache runs at 1/2 or 1/3 the speed of the processor. This means they run at very similar speeds. This is also the reason new moble PII and PIII are faster then desktop versons at same speed. In the mobles the cache is now on die and runs at the same speed as the processor. -----Original Message----- From: Jane Loyless [mailto:jloyless@netbox.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 9:06 PM To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 (fwd) Celaron 300 vs PII 366, but you're right - not much performance difference. I didn't like the TP240, BTW, and IBM's support for NT40 on it sucked. Jane From cph Mon Nov 29 14:58:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA28749 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:58:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16171; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:55:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:55:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15985; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:55:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15959; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:54:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (199.175.106.4 -> mail.islandnet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:54:51 -0500 Received: from 139-142-112-182.islandnet.com ([139.142.112.182]) by mail.islandnet.com with SMTP id 11sWsf-00024Q-00 ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:54:37 -0800 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: awebber@sgml-mercs.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600 travelling in UK? Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:21:17 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <199911290016.TAA09220@hpdmraaa.compuserve.com> In-Reply-To: <199911290016.TAA09220@hpdmraaa.compuserve.com> Lines: 81 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: In London, at the Tottenham Court tube (subway) station, going north from there along Tottenham Court Road, there are lots of electronics shops. In September, I bought a UK telephone adaptor (so I could plug the cable from my PCMCIA modem into the adaptor, and the adaptor into the wall telephone module). All the stores had them, and they were all around 5 pounds. I thought that was rather expensive and said so to the young man behind the counter. He said "I can sell it to you for 4 pounds 50, if that will make you happy." I said "happier!" and took the deal. 4 pounds 50 is about $cdn12. The same stores can sell you a power adaptor (transformer not needed if your brick says 230 V / 50 Hz as input). Don't remember what that cost, as it was years ago, but it seemed reasonable at the time. Both the computer (701) and modem (IBM 33.6 PCMCIA) worked flawlessly with these adaptors. Please note that the brick on the 701 is a 2-pronged affair, so a grounding tine was never a question. For internet hookup, I used Free-online. You can sign up for it online from North America, so long as you have an address and phone number to give them in Britain. They give you an 0845 number to call. It works from anywhere in Britain (you don't have to be at the phone number which you give). It is billed to the caller's phone bill at the price of a local call (which I think is 1 p per minute, although there may be some special deals whereby it is cheaper). There is no other charge. Free-online splits the proceeds with the phone company, that's how they make their penny. Free-online provides email addresses, but I didn't use them. For incoming (POP) mail, I was able to access my own ISP's directly. Outgoing (SMTP) mail was easy with signon name and password via relay.free-online.net >On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:07:07 -1000, David Ross wrote: > >>You might find that you don't even need an adapter in the >>UK - many UK bathrooms have shaver sockets on the wall, >>and these will accept US plugs. (Of course, this means >>using the battery except in the loo.) > >Just don't get the TP mixed up! [sorry] > >But surely the shaver outlet will be ungrounded? I shouldn't be >using that with my computer! (Should I?). I like your idea of the >power cable. I remember when I was in England many years ago, all >appliances came without a plug. Someone said it was because for 20 >(or 30 or 40 or whatever) years, the UK had been planning on a new >standard, but it never happened. Meanwhile they kept selling >appliances plugless in case a new standard leapt on the scene! > > >I checked at Radio Shack today and they want C$5 (~U$3.65) for an >ungrounded UK power adapter. Which isn't that much cheaper than >the U$4 from the Utah site. > >This adapter had a plastic third prong (as does the $4 ungrounded >one on the site). The RS guy was trying to tell me that they're >all like that, but I don't believe him (it only had two jacks on >the North-America side, so it wouldn't be any use to my TP anyway). > I think the UK phone adapter was about C$12, which _is_ much >cheaper than the U$13 (C$20) online. > >Staples had a Samsonite travel site (multiple adapters, 4+3 I >think?) for C$27, which really isn't that much more than $12 for >the phone and (estimating) $9 for the grounded power at RS. > > > -- cheers Jonathan From cph Mon Nov 29 16:45:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA30185 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:45:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22036; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:11:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21883; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:11:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21870; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:11:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.200.167 -> fb01.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:11:30 -0500 Received: from shadow-book (dal-tx4-46.ix.netcom.com [207.94.121.110]) by fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA22690 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:11:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991129151158.007cf100@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: powrlftr@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:11:58 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Blaine Hufnagle Subject: TP755CD Benchmark comparisons? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I'm trying to figure out if my dissatisfaction with my TP's performance is >from Win98SE's nature as bloatware, or if there's something wrong with the way I've got it installed or configured. Using ZDLab's Winbench/CPUMark, I came up with the figure of 4.4 running Win98SE, with nothing else running (at least in the foreground). Win98 by itself garnered a 4.29. [It's a 755CD with the P-75, 1.2G and 24 MB RAM] Does anyone else with a 755CD have any WinBench results to compare, or other benchmarks that I can download and compare? I'll be happy to send the entire results to anyone who wants to look. Also, my battery performance is abysmal. Forty-five (45) minutes is a good run from full charge to the thing dying from a dead battery; the manual says anywhere from 1.5 to 3 hours on a full charge. Is it time to consider the gut-punch to the wallet of purchasing a new battery, or should I look somewhere else? Where should I look to try to get good suspend performance back? It's NEVER liked suspending on Win95 OR Win98, but Win98's performance is problematic at best; W95b would at least be fairly predictable and suspend most of the time. Any ideas? -blaine The Zen Method of Big Rig: Grasshopper, truck will shift itself if you are one with it. - Bill Keith (Cruising the Info-Bahn in a Freightliner dry van :-) DoD #7192 (but no bike) Powerlifting LIFE - The rest is details. http://www.powerbear.com From cph Mon Nov 29 17:12:14 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA30636 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:12:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26579; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:11:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:10:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26492; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:10:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26478; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:10:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:10:48 -0500 Received: from user-38lc4ba.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lc4ba.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.17.106]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA00989; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:10:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911292210.RAA00989@smtp6.mindspring.com> From: "Allan" To: "Robert D. Baron" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:11:09 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <38429167.4DA578DB@concentric.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP 600 in Paris List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:44:55 -0600, Robert D. Baron wrote: >Should I pack my Hello Direct Linestein in case the phone system is >digital? (I always use my IBM modem saver before connecting anywhere.) Not a bad idea. The only problem I had last September was getting a 760CD Mwave to recognize the French tones. Never would. I bought a 3COM "global" pc card modem (the only pc card modem I could find) and it worked flawlessly. Still does, but back home, so does the Mwave. The Mwave worked everywhere I went except for Paris. From cph Mon Nov 29 17:31:43 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA30792 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:31:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27819; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:29:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:27:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27494; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:27:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27472; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:27:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.123 -> swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:27:17 -0500 Received: from miles (ip173.an11-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.22.173]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA09647; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:27:03 -0800 (PST) From: "David Newman" To: "Allan " , "Robert D. Baron" , Subject: RE: TP 600 in Paris Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:27:05 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-reply-to: <199911292210.RAA00989@smtp6.mindspring.com> List-Unsubscribe: Why not just set the modem not to wait for dial tone? (I think the AT command is X1 but it's a software setting in Windows 9X/NT) I've used the Mwave on several Thinkpads in Paris with good results. dn > -----Original Message----- > From: Allan [mailto:aballard@ix.netcom.com] > Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 2:11 PM > To: Robert D. Baron; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: TP 600 in Paris > > > On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:44:55 -0600, Robert D. Baron wrote: > > >Should I pack my Hello Direct Linestein in case the phone system is > >digital? (I always use my IBM modem saver before connecting anywhere.) > > Not a bad idea. The only problem I had last September was getting > a 760CD Mwave to recognize the French tones. Never would. I > bought a 3COM "global" pc card modem (the only pc card modem > I could find) and it worked flawlessly. Still does, but back home, so > does the Mwave. The Mwave worked everywhere I went except for > Paris. > > From cph Mon Nov 29 20:01:12 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA31881 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:01:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06504; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:51:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:51:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06413; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:51:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06400; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:50:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.19 -> cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:50:58 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer - 63.27.205.98 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:50:57 -0800 Message-ID: <001e01bf3acd$2c8e6760$6fccfea9@oemcomputer> From: "Brad Burean" To: Subject: Thinkpad 560 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:52:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I've got a friend who has a Thinklpad 560, but he's not sure of the processor, He wants to trade it for a desktop I have. I do know it's a Dual Scan display, 40megs, and a 1.3 gig hard drive. Anyone know what configs the older thinkpads have? I think its about 4 years old. Thanks again for the great help! Brad aka Booger From cph Mon Nov 29 20:40:05 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA32050 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:40:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09117; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:38:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:38:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09033; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:38:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.jps.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09017; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:37:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.jps.net (209.63.224.103 -> smtp6.jps.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:37:52 -0500 Received: from MelsDesktop (209-239-194-19.oak.jps.net [209.239.194.19]) by smtp6.jps.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA18100 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:37:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <009b01bf3ad3$78abd1e0$c9c8c8c8@jps.net> From: "Mel" To: References: <3.0.6.32.19991129135525.00abaca0@mail.netrover.com> Subject: Re: HELP! TP701 is Breaking down Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:37:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: So where do you get the T-1 driver and screws. My front screws on my 701 are either missing or coming loose. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Trottier To: Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 10:55 AM Subject: Re: HELP! TP701 is Breaking down > Also, in Canada, the T-6 is included in a set of 15-odd small Torx, > Phillips & slot screwdrivers available for ~$15 at Canadian Tire. > > At 01:07 1999/11/29 -0600, Tom Collins wrote: > >Craftsman makes a small set of TORX screwdrivers. I just checked and T6 is > >included. > > > >>those are T-6 Torx screws.. > > > >>> If not IBM shop (??? Easy Serve ???), where could I have him send his > >>> machine for repair? Or where could I get my hands on some of those > >little > >>> screws and an appropriate screwdriver? Or maybe I should have him take > >his > >>> machine to the tech guys at school and see if they can get the parts. > ------------------ > From:Tom Trottier, 400 Slater St. Suite 415,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 > __o Voice: +1 613 291-1168 fax(no ads, please): 594-5412 > _ \< "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein > (*)/'(*) TomTrottier@hotmail.com > > > From cph Mon Nov 29 20:52:48 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA32101 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:52:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10174; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:50:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:50:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10101; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:50:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10081; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:50:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:50:33 -0500 Received: from user-38lc4ba.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lc4ba.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.17.106]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA06073; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:50:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911300150.UAA06073@smtp6.mindspring.com> From: "Allan" To: "James H. E. Maugham" , "scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:51:06 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan " Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <021701bf39e2$a2516a60$65088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP765 Recovery CD List-Unsubscribe: I tried it without the Dock II and voila, up and running in no time. It is one of those "B" versions of Win95. What does this mean? Is it any different than the "A" editions? On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:53:32 -0500, James H. E. Maugham wrote: >"Bruce Markowitz" wrote: > >> Most recovery CD's seem only to work with the machine they are intended >> for, this may be the problem. > >It's been my experience that it's more important to have the correct boot >disk. > >Regards, > >James > From cph Mon Nov 29 22:04:04 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA32452 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:04:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13941; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:02:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:01:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13863; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:01:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.ticnet.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13850; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:01:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.ticnet.com (209.186.224.11 -> smtp.ticnet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:01:29 -0500 Received: from [209.186.229.42] (helo=ticnet.com) by smtp.ticnet.com with esmtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 11sdXK-0007n8-00; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 21:01:03 -0600 Message-ID: <3842E99D.E1BBF711@ticnet.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 03:01:17 +0000 From: Jim McGhee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: HELP! TP701 is Breaking down References: <3.0.6.32.19991129135525.00abaca0@mail.netrover.com> <009b01bf3ad3$78abd1e0$c9c8c8c8@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I got mine from IBM Direct. It was listed as one of the parts on the tp701 parts list that they had on their web page. My old link no longer works. Anyone know where IBM Direct is now? Jim McGhee Mel wrote: > > So where do you get the T-1 driver and screws. My front screws on my 701 are > either missing or coming loose. > > From cph Mon Nov 29 22:27:33 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA32515 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:27:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15318; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:26:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:26:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15241; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:26:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from chas.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15226; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:26:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from chas.org (24.129.55.205 -> surf124-55-205.jacksonville.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:26:19 -0500 Received: from home ([chas.org]) by 127.0.0.1 ( IA Mail Server Version: 02.2.0 Build: 02036 ) ) ; 30 Nov 99 03:24:49 UT Message-Id: <4.1.19991129222432.009dc5e0@207.98.192.83> X-Sender: cclarke@207.98.192.83 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:24:47 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Charles Clarke Subject: subscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: subscribe From cph Mon Nov 29 23:13:50 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA32746 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:13:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17387; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:11:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:11:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17271; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:11:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from netdoor.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17257; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:11:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from netdoor.com (208.137.128.6 -> netdoor.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:11:19 -0500 Received: from TP560E (port85.stk.netdoor.com [208.137.149.85]) by netdoor.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA23625 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:11:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001c01bf3ae8$b0a9b980$559589d0@TP560E> From: "See-Kit Lam" To: Subject: tp560: w2k rc2 installation Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:09:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01BF3AB6.652BEE60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BF3AB6.652BEE60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi all... i just get hold of a w2k rc2 cd .... but the installation = is not as smooth as expected. i have a ibm 20x pcmcia cd rom dirve. the = installation comes to a halt during the starting stage of file copying. = i try to make a win98 startup disk... with all those specific driver for = the drive... the startup is okay..... but tp560 can't read anything from = the drive. is there any other way to install w2k? thanks. seekit ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BF3AB6.652BEE60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    hi all... i just get hold of a = w2k rc2 cd=20 .... but the installation is not as smooth as expected. i have = a ibm=20 20x pcmcia cd rom dirve. the installation comes to a halt during the = starting=20 stage of file copying. i try to make a win98 startup disk... with all = those=20 specific driver for the drive... the startup is okay..... but tp560 = can't read=20 anything from the drive.
 
    is there any other way to install = w2k?
 
    thanks.
 
seekit
------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BF3AB6.652BEE60-- From cph Mon Nov 29 23:29:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA00354 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:29:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18232; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:27:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:27:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18153; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:27:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18140; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:27:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:27:30 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax37.vramp.net [198.138.8.100]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA03677; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:26:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01b901bf3aeb$2de9dd10$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "See-Kit Lam" , References: <001c01bf3ae8$b0a9b980$559589d0@TP560E> Subject: Re: tp560: w2k rc2 installation Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:27:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01B6_01BF3AC1.44565170" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01B6_01BF3AC1.44565170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable See-Kit, It can't be done without some finagling of the installation files. There = isn't a specific page for Win2K installation on the 560, but the = instructions contained at: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/LWIK-3Q7UQL.html for loading NT4 from a PCMCIA CD drive should enable you to load Win2K = after some minor changes. Let us know how you make out. Regards, James ----- Original Message -----=20 From: See-Kit Lam=20 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu=20 Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 11:09 PM Subject: tp560: w2k rc2 installation hi all... i just get hold of a w2k rc2 cd .... but the = installation is not as smooth as expected. i have a ibm 20x pcmcia cd = rom dirve. the installation comes to a halt during the starting stage of = file copying. i try to make a win98 startup disk... with all those = specific driver for the drive... the startup is okay..... but tp560 = can't read anything from the drive. is there any other way to install w2k? thanks. seekit ------=_NextPart_000_01B6_01BF3AC1.44565170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
See-Kit,
 
It can't be done without some finagling of the=20 installation files. There isn't a specific page for Win2K installation = on the=20 560, but the instructions contained at:
 
http://www.pc.i= bm.com/qtechinfo/LWIK-3Q7UQL.html
 
for loading NT4 from a PCMCIA CD drive should = enable you=20 to load Win2K after some minor changes.
 
Let us know how you make out.
 
Regards,
 
James
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 See-Kit Lam=20
Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 = 11:09=20 PM
Subject: tp560: w2k rc2=20 installation

    hi all... i just get hold of a = w2k rc2 cd=20 .... but the installation is not as smooth as expected. = i have a ibm=20 20x pcmcia cd rom dirve. the installation comes to a halt during the = starting=20 stage of file copying. i try to make a win98 startup disk... with all = those=20 specific driver for the drive... the startup is okay..... but tp560 = can't read=20 anything from the drive.
 
    is there any other way to = install=20 w2k?
 
    thanks.
 
seekit
------=_NextPart_000_01B6_01BF3AC1.44565170-- From cph Tue Nov 30 00:59:06 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA00686 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:59:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22239; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:58:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:57:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22114; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:57:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22101; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:56:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (198.206.134.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:57:00 -0500 Received: from icanect.net (tspsl1-128.gate.net [207.36.212.128]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA51258; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:56:50 -0500 Message-ID: <38436736.C1C10CD8@icanect.net> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:57:10 -0500 From: Bill Morrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "James H. E. Maugham" CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Misappropriated (?) TP600 References: <383C2224.81EC25B6@icanect.net> <002c01bf36b3$af45db20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> <00a101bf36f1$34cf6ad0$43088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <383E09EE.B07D881A@icanect.net> <383E48B8.13C3@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> <384210DD.EF1EF627@icanect.net> <003501bf3a6e$8b362be0$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3CC1E74D27EE2E11F12509C2" List-Unsubscribe: --------------3CC1E74D27EE2E11F12509C2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit can it be that there is some "shilling" going on..?? "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: > Sorry Bill, but that TP quacked like a duck & walked like a duck. I > can't believe that a phone call or three couldn't have proven that the > seller had the machine legitimately and he could have therefore gotten > the password. Apparently, if the ultimate selling price of US$1122.98 > is any indicator, the knowledge that removing the BIOS password from a > 600 is a simple matter has gotten around the laptop community. But, as > I earlier stated, if the Administrator password is also set, the > purchaser is well and truly screwed. I'm more than a bit surprised at > the selling price as I see similar machines going for less on eBay all > the time. Regards, James > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morrow > To: scosgt@postoffice.worldnet.att.net > Cc: James H. E. Maugham ; David Ross ; ThinkPad List > Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 12:36 AM > Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499 > Bruce... > > OK.. :-) > you may be correct and i should NOT have assumed..! > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net --------------3CC1E74D27EE2E11F12509C2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit can it be that there is some "shilling" going on..??

"James H. E. Maugham" wrote:

Sorry Bill, but that TP quacked like a duck & walked like a duck. I can't believe that a phone call or three couldn't have proven that the seller had the machine legitimately and he could have therefore gotten the password. Apparently, if the ultimate selling price of US$1122.98 is any indicator, the knowledge that removing the BIOS password from a 600 is a simple matter has gotten around the laptop community. But, as I earlier stated, if the Administrator password is also set, the purchaser is well and truly screwed. I'm more than a bit surprised at the selling price as I see similar machines going for less on eBay all the time. Regards, James
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: ThinkPad 240 on sale at MicroWarehouse $1499
 Bruce...

OK..  :-) <sheepish grin>
you may be correct and i should NOT have assumed..!

--
Happy trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
WEB page http://thinkpads.com
e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@icanect.net
  --------------3CC1E74D27EE2E11F12509C2-- From cph Tue Nov 30 00:59:47 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA00690 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:59:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22365; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:59:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:58:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22281; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:58:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from usc.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22268; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from usc.edu (128.125.253.136 -> usc.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:58:44 -0500 Received: from rcf-fs.usc.edu (root@rcf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.19.166]) by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id VAA18563; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 21:58:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-227-228.usc.edu [128.125.227.228]) by rcf-fs.usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id VAA03467; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 21:58:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991129213834.00c03eb0@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 21:57:22 -0800 To: "William Hay" From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Web Server using a ThinkPad? Cc: TP List In-Reply-To: <007501bf3ad0$676760a0$d512f103@hobbes> References: <4.2.0.58.19991128171706.0338bee0@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 09:15 AM 11/30/1999 +0800, you wrote: >Actually, this is quite interesting. Please don't take it off list -- or pls >add me to the conversation! Well, okay--here's one more thought: Thus far, people have been feeding me some software solutions--but as far as I understand, I would have to have this software running on each machine I expect to have protected. Frankly, I think that's a less-than-optimal resolution, not to mention the questions I'd have about the performance hit. But certainly, it appears to be near-free. A stumbled across a hardware solution today, and I'd like people's input on it (if you know anything about it). Its called the "Sonic SOHO 10", and its designed to act as a firewall for up to 10 static IP addresses (I'd have 4 assigned to me, but only 2 computers using them--perhaps a 3rd, if I put together a little server of some sort). Its part of the family of products called the "Sonic Wall". All I know is I'm looking at $453 for it. But I don't know how good or bad it is. A quick peek can be had at www.sonicsys.com. Anyone ever heard of it or had experience with it? Good or bad? Do you think it would do the job of protecting my machines from outside intrusion? Offhand, it appears to be a superior solution. I'm not fond of forking over $450+, but if it will do the job and do it well, then it would be $450 well-spent. I don't need someone getting in and destroying my stuff, y'know? The worst part might be that I might not know it until it is way too late. If that's the case, then $450 for such an item is as good an investment as good backup drives & media. - Randy Whittle From cph Tue Nov 30 03:18:18 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA00993 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 03:18:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27631; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 03:16:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 03:15:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27443; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 03:15:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from usc.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27430; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 03:15:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from usc.edu (128.125.253.136 -> usc.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 03:15:16 -0500 Received: from rcf-fs.usc.edu (root@rcf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.19.166]) by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id AAA12418; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-227-228.usc.edu [128.125.227.228]) by rcf-fs.usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id AAA24547; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:15:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991130000402.00c03460@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:14:01 -0800 To: "David Ross" From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Web Server using a ThinkPad? Cc: TP List In-Reply-To: <001301bf3b07$dab26f00$5c3e6420@math.hawaii.edu> References: <4.2.0.58.19991128171706.0338bee0@rcf.usc.edu> <4.2.0.58.19991129213834.00c03eb0@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 09:52 PM 11/29/1999 -1000, you wrote: >This looks like a nice bit of hardware, but if you only have a couple of >machines there's a cheaper firewall solution: start with the cheapest machine >you have/can get that can run W95, let it be your firewall machine. Call this >machine A; it needs an ethernet card, and a (separate) DSL modem. Let B and C >(say) be your other machines. Disable file and print sharing on A, let it run >Total cost: firewall machine: free (from the closet) or in any event <$100 >(needs no monitor, and a P75 >machine should be more than adequate). Hub: $25. Software: free to $50, >depending on proxy server chosen. Net admin hassle: none, this is all very Its also a little ugly, don't you think? Seems to me that this is all a lot more administration, and the cost...still about $200 on the low end. Another not-insignificant item: Space! I don't have a place for another machine (which is why, earlier, I was saying if I did a server of any kind, it would be run on a notebook--I could close the lid and it would take very little space. Same can be said for this firewall device). Not having space to spare--literally, I don't!--that "little box" solution alone is probably worth a couple hundred $ to me all by itself, as compared to dedicating a PC to it. Needless to say, I'm not so keen on running the web server thing now...though that was just a fiddle-around idea anyway. Bonus points to the hardware device in that its not going to crash or need to be reset. And its basically plug-n-play--once it gets set up (which seemed fairly simple, even for me--in contrast, these software solutions started to fry my brain!), its default features seem to do just what I want. There are others in this class: BeadleNet SOHO 2000 and Umax U-Gate Plus. Still looking at my options... >Downside: same as with any single-firewall solution (including the "Sonicwall" >box), you lose bandwidth >(all packets from the outside route through one box, so combined throughput of >all local machines >is no more than the throughput of the one DSL modem (in my solution) or one >10BT link (in the Sonicwall box). Also, you lose any advantage of having been >granted more than one IP address. I wasn't going out of my way to get that, the 4 IP's just came with the package from this particular provider. :-) Are you saying that the IP addressing is limited to 1 in your solution, or also in the Sonicwall solution? - Randy Whittle From cph Tue Nov 30 07:54:21 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA01767 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:54:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16172; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:52:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:51:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16052; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:51:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16039; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:51:32 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p18.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.33]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA18847; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 04:50:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911301250.EAA18847@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "David Newman" Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 04:53:23 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:08:08 -0800, David Newman wrote: >> On your machine, how long does it take to boot? >> Mine takes several minutes at the most... >> > >Ditto -- around five minutes, or at least it felt that way. > >W2K really needs *at least* 64M of RAM no matter what MS says (anyone ever >try running W95 with MS's claimed 4M minimum? ;-). But for the patient it >will work with less memory. > I had 48MB of RAM, I'm so thankful I have 80MB now. And even now I wish I had an extra 16MB. And yes, I think I might've ran Win95 in 4MB of RAM. That, and OS/2. Just flat out, performance really sucks... you can't even run Linux in 4MB anymore (that is, with a GUI, etc). Paul From cph Tue Nov 30 07:56:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA01771 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:56:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16493; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:54:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:54:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16393; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16380; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:54:35 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p18.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.33]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA18895; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 04:53:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911301253.EAA18895@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Vincent Poy" Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 04:56:27 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:12:24 -0800 (PST), Vincent Poy wrote: >On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, James H. E. Maugham wrote: > >> "James" wrote: >> >> > James, >> > How is the performance on the 760XL with Win2K? Like do you feel slower >> than >> > Win95/98? Or about the same speed? >> >> I've only got the old MKI eyeball to answer this with as I haven't run any >> utilities to check, but my subjective opinion is Win2K is faster than Win95 >> or NT4 and slightly slower than Win98. > > Hmmm, I always thought Win98 was slower than Win95. Can Win2k >still run DOS apps since he only reason I am asking is that there are >still some utilities from the 10-20 years of using the PC that is somewhat >useful. Let me guess, is XTreeGold one of them? If so, check out www.ztree.com I'm not affiliated with them, just happy with their software. I still admit, OS/2 has better DOS support than even Win2K, but Win2K has become much better than NT4. I got my first BSOD today on my ThinkPad (with Win2K), and wow, it actually tells you what the heck the error means... I think that's an MS first! >> I wish I could say the same for NT4 (SP3). >> >> You will all have to excuse me for the rest of the day. It appears that my >> daughter brought a virus home from college and has infected my son's >> machine. It's dead!!!! >> >> Why he had VirusScan turned off I will NEVER understand. > > Now that really sucks.... Hope you can get that machine fixed >soon. > Viruses suck - I've been fortunate, and haven't had an infection for nearly 3-4 years. Last time I did, it spread to so many floppies... =( Paul From cph Tue Nov 30 08:49:52 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA01967 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 08:49:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20194; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 08:48:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 08:47:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20106; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 08:47:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from rattler.gtfc.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20068; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 08:47:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from rattler.gtfc.com (206.146.7.2 -> rattler.gtfc.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 08:47:52 -0500 Received: from rattler.gtfc.com (root@localhost) by rattler.gtfc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA08203; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:47:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from netscape.net ([10.1.11.49]) by rattler.gtfc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA08199; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:47:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3843D503.565A4434@netscape.net> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:45:39 -0600 From: Rob Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: See-Kit Lam CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: tp560: w2k rc2 installation References: <001c01bf3ae8$b0a9b980$559589d0@TP560E> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: What I find simplest for doing OS upgrades like this is to copy the installation files to the local HD first (from another OS that can see the CD), then boot to DOS and run the installation from there. On laptop PCs, and even desktop PCs, removing the CD-ROM from the process makes things a lot less painful and complicated. Of course, this assumes that you have extra free space on the target HD. Good luck, Rob See-Kit Lam wrote: > hi all... i just get hold of a w2k rc2 cd .... but the > installation is not as smooth as expected. i have a ibm 20x pcmcia cd > rom dirve. the installation comes to a halt during the starting stage > of file copying. i try to make a win98 startup disk... with all those > specific driver for the drive... the startup is okay..... but tp560 > can't read anything from the drive. is there any other way to > install w2k? thanks. seekit From cph Tue Nov 30 09:38:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA02171 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:38:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23637; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:37:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:36:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23524; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:36:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23507; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:36:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:36:30 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax24.vramp.net [198.138.8.87]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA03863; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:36:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <028b01bf3b40$5ff5c030$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" References: <199911301253.EAA18895@stevie.loop.com> Subject: Re: Windows 2000 on ThinkPads Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:37:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: "Paul Khoury" wrote: > I still admit, OS/2 has better DOS support than even Win2K, but Win2K has become > much better than NT4. I always considered NT4 as being at the Zero end of DOS support. I have a bunch of USEPA provided software, DOS only, that I have to use on occasion to send engineering data to a govt. server. Attempting to do so from _any_ of my NT4 machines resulted in the BSOD with the normal gibberish as to cause. Same thing happens with some wastewater programs I use that run under DOS. I've been playing with those same programs on Win2K and, so far, everything has run just fine. > I got my first BSOD today on my ThinkPad (with Win2K), and wow, it actually > tells you what the heck the error means... I think that's an MS first! I haven't seen one yet, but now I'm actually looking forward to it! :-) > Viruses suck - I've been fortunate, and haven't had an infection for nearly 3-4 years. > Last time I did, it spread to so many floppies... =( I was able to clear up the virus problem by running the McAfee generated emergency disk that I made when I recently upgraded my son's desktop. Having learned my lesson with viruses after the complete loss of two hard drives over the years, I've become a bit anal about keeping any and all ERU disks up to date and under lock and key. I've tracked this most recent virus back to my daughter's school as the disk went from her desktop at her house, which is McAfee protected and current, to the school's computer to be printed, and then home. Obvious conclusion is that she got it from the school computer and I've sent the IT folks there a heads up. The answer to my cry of "why the heck my son had VirusScan turned off on his computer" was obtained from said son. Now that he is commuting to school and no longer has access to the T1 line in his dorm, he found downloading too slow on his dialup connection with virus protection enabled, so he turned it off! (Harummmpphhh!!!) Regards, James From cph Tue Nov 30 11:31:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA02835 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:31:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02395; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:27:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:26:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02284; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:26:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02215; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:26:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (130.18.80.10 -> Ra.MsState.Edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:26:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (skl2@localhost); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/MsState-Ra/evision: 1.15 $) with ESMTP; id KAA08589 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:25:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:25:07 -0600 (CST) From: See K Lam To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: tp560: w2k rc2 installation In-Reply-To: <001c01bf3ae8$b0a9b980$559589d0@TP560E> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: hi all..... got w2k running after some making some mistakes here and there.. after all this is the 1st time i'm dealing with nt class os. for those without built-in cd rom, there is an option to install w2k which copies some setup files to the local hdd... in case cd rom is not accessible during the installation phase. >i386\winnt32 \makelocalsource this takes up some space. thanks to james who sent me a link about nt installation. there r some other options.... just look into the help file. anyway, i've to disabled infra red to get the modem working and hibernation and suspend r not working.... errors saying DRIVER\AW_HOST can not suspend. any idea? the other problem is the starting w2k.... it stays in the screen showing 'getting ready to startup' for like 5 minutes... i think something is wrong with my configuration. do i have any control over this? the same thing happens with the thinkpad utility.... the system waits for about 5 minutes...for the icon to show up. thanks in advance. seekit From cph Tue Nov 30 11:43:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA02919 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:43:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03669; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:41:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03552; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:41:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03531; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:41:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (216.98.165.6) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:41:34 -0500 Received: by BIGRED with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:44:02 -0600 Message-ID: <195C527E2345D311A97C009027856AB80958C3@BIGRED> From: Greg Langham To: "'See K Lam'" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: tp560: w2k rc2 installation Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:44:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I haven't run w2k yet, but the AW_HOST looks like PCAnywhere's host service. Did you happen to install pcAnywhere after you installed w2k? Or, maybe it's just a naming coincidence. Greg -----Original Message----- From: See K Lam [mailto:skl2@Ra.MsState.Edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 10:25 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: tp560: w2k rc2 installation hi all..... got w2k running after some making some mistakes here and there.. after all this is the 1st time i'm dealing with nt class os. for those without built-in cd rom, there is an option to install w2k which copies some setup files to the local hdd... in case cd rom is not accessible during the installation phase. >i386\winnt32 \makelocalsource this takes up some space. thanks to james who sent me a link about nt installation. there r some other options.... just look into the help file. anyway, i've to disabled infra red to get the modem working and hibernation and suspend r not working.... errors saying DRIVER\AW_HOST can not suspend. any idea? the other problem is the starting w2k.... it stays in the screen showing 'getting ready to startup' for like 5 minutes... i think something is wrong with my configuration. do i have any control over this? the same thing happens with the thinkpad utility.... the system waits for about 5 minutes...for the icon to show up. thanks in advance. seekit From cph Tue Nov 30 11:56:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA03015 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:56:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04801; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:54:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:54:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04709; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04696; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:54:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:54:29 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [172.20.2.1]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20246; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:53:32 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [172.20.1.9]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA09452; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:53:32 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:53:15 +0000 To: "ThinkPad List" , "p machule" , "James H. E. Maugham" Subject: Re[4]: 755CX questions answered - thanks MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id LAA03016 Thanks for your help - I've gone from a 755C with dead battery plus a dead 755CX to a good 755CX, three good batteries (two bought in error for the 755C but fit the 755CX) and a backup 755C. Looks like the screen might well be 640x480, although there is some distortion in Photopaint of the aspect ratio of photos (vertical is longer than horizontal). The model number is very strange, not one of the usual 755CX 9545 ones. However given the part number of the display (85G1489) it must be a VGA one. I've just ordered a 4 gig disk for it so I'll have fun transferring the other partitions from the other hard disks so I can have a unified setup. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: 755CX questions Author: MIME:"James H. E. Maugham" at INTERNET Date: 11/29/99 1:18 PM "Adam Quantrill" wrote: Yes it's got the multi-connector on the side for the modem/telephone/headset. Might be useful if I could get a lead for it, although usually I'd prefer using my pcmcia 56k one. Even if you do have the DSP upgrade, your maximum throughput with software upgrades is 33.6K baud, and that not very reliably. 28.8 is about the most you can expect on the DSP. Disable the DSP modem and stick with your PCMCIA one, you'll be much happier. So that implies mwave which implies 800x600. I can select 800x600 in the W95 screen setup, but when I reboot it forces me back to 640x480 - why is this? I haven't seen any screen drivers at the IBM mobiles site for W95. It's proof that 800X600 is not supported by your machine, ergo it must be an SBJ or SBK model. Check the device driver matrix for specific drivers for your machine at: http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/support/thinkpad/tpopsys.html Of course it could be a 640x480 with optional mwave installed. My thoughts exactly. Regards, James ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Tue Nov 30 12:01:22 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA03044 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:01:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05166; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:59:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:59:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05068; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:58:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05050; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:58:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (216.98.165.6) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:58:52 -0500 Received: by BIGRED with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:01:21 -0600 Message-ID: <195C527E2345D311A97C009027856AB80958C5@BIGRED> From: Greg Langham To: "'See K Lam'" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: tp560: w2k rc2 installation Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:01:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I would keep PCAnywhere out of the picture with w2k until I researched its compatibility on Symantec's web site. PCA tends to modify many portions of the video structure of NT/98. Greg -----Original Message----- From: See K Lam [mailto:skl2@Ra.MsState.Edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 10:57 AM To: Greg Langham Subject: RE: tp560: w2k rc2 installation hei.... i got pcanywhere.... i'll remove it and see. thanks. On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Greg Langham wrote: > I haven't run w2k yet, but the AW_HOST looks like PCAnywhere's host service. > Did you happen to install pcAnywhere after you installed w2k? Or, maybe it's > just a naming coincidence. > > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: See K Lam [mailto:skl2@Ra.MsState.Edu] > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 10:25 AM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: tp560: w2k rc2 installation > > > > hi all..... got w2k running after some making some mistakes here > and there.. after all this is the 1st time i'm dealing with nt class os. > > for those without built-in cd rom, there is an option to install > w2k which copies some setup files to the local hdd... in case cd rom is > not accessible during the installation phase. > > >i386\winnt32 \makelocalsource > > this takes up some space. thanks to james who sent me a link about nt > installation. there r some other options.... just look into the help file. > > anyway, i've to disabled infra red to get the modem working and > hibernation and suspend r not working.... errors saying DRIVER\AW_HOST can > not suspend. any idea? > > the other problem is the starting w2k.... it stays in the screen > showing 'getting ready to startup' for like 5 minutes... i think something > is wrong with my configuration. do i have any control over this? the same > thing happens with the thinkpad utility.... the system waits for about 5 > minutes...for the icon to show up. > > thanks in advance. > > seekit > From cph Tue Nov 30 13:35:29 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA03507 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:35:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13417; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:34:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:33:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13272; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:33:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13119; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:31:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (130.18.80.10 -> Ra.MsState.Edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:31:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (skl2@localhost); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/MsState-Ra/evision: 1.15 $) with ESMTP; id MAA22921; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:29:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:29:53 -0600 (CST) From: See K Lam To: Greg Langham cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: tp560: w2k rc2 installation In-Reply-To: <195C527E2345D311A97C009027856AB80958C5@BIGRED> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: hi.... got suspend and hibernate working... thanks to greg for removing PCAnywhere. now, i've a big problem... my friend just told me that the w2k i installed is not rc2. it's w2k professional beta 3 !!!! can i still use the thinkpad utility? is there any version of thinkpad utility for this version? thanks. On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Greg Langham wrote: > I would keep PCAnywhere out of the picture with w2k until I researched its > compatibility on Symantec's web site. PCA tends to modify many portions of > the video structure of NT/98. > > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: See K Lam [mailto:skl2@Ra.MsState.Edu] > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 10:57 AM > To: Greg Langham > Subject: RE: tp560: w2k rc2 installation > > > hei.... i got pcanywhere.... i'll remove it and see. > thanks. > > > On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Greg Langham wrote: > > > I haven't run w2k yet, but the AW_HOST looks like PCAnywhere's host > service. > > Did you happen to install pcAnywhere after you installed w2k? Or, maybe > it's > > just a naming coincidence. > > > > Greg > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: See K Lam [mailto:skl2@Ra.MsState.Edu] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 10:25 AM > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Re: tp560: w2k rc2 installation > > > > > > > > hi all..... got w2k running after some making some mistakes here > > and there.. after all this is the 1st time i'm dealing with nt class os. > > > > for those without built-in cd rom, there is an option to install > > w2k which copies some setup files to the local hdd... in case cd rom is > > not accessible during the installation phase. > > > > >i386\winnt32 \makelocalsource > > > > this takes up some space. thanks to james who sent me a link about nt > > installation. there r some other options.... just look into the help file. > > > > anyway, i've to disabled infra red to get the modem working and > > hibernation and suspend r not working.... errors saying DRIVER\AW_HOST can > > not suspend. any idea? > > > > the other problem is the starting w2k.... it stays in the screen > > showing 'getting ready to startup' for like 5 minutes... i think something > > is wrong with my configuration. do i have any control over this? the same > > thing happens with the thinkpad utility.... the system waits for about 5 > > minutes...for the icon to show up. > > > > thanks in advance. > > > > seekit > > > From cph Tue Nov 30 13:43:36 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA03574 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:43:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14442; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:42:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:42:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14345; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:42:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14312; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:42:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:42:13 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax24.vramp.net [198.138.8.87]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA23997; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:41:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <02d101bf3b62$ab4b5d20$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Bill Morrow" Cc: References: <383C2224.81EC25B6@icanect.net> <002c01bf36b3$af45db20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> <00a101bf36f1$34cf6ad0$43088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <383E09EE.B07D881A@icanect.net> <383E48B8.13C3@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> <384210DD.EF1EF627@icanect.net> <003501bf3a6e$8b362be0$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <38436736.C1C10CD8@icanect.net> Subject: Re: Misappropriated (?) TP600 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:42:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: "Bill Morrow" Ye Pyrate of Penzance wrote; > can it be that there is some "shilling" going on..?? I've frequently wondered if some of these eBay sellers don't have _several_ stooges online to help "firm" the price up! Last day (hell, last HOUR!) flurries of bidding that drive the price well beyond the limits of reason are all too common. But, perhaps there really are that many ignorant people out there who are willing to pay damn near retail for very used machines. Warm regards Bill, James PS: Still want to trade Thinkpad parts for sea stories? :-) From cph Tue Nov 30 14:00:13 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA03646 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:00:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16163; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:58:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:58:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16024; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:58:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16010; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:57:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:57:56 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax24.vramp.net [198.138.8.87]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA25526; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:57:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <02d701bf3b64$eafab310$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "See K Lam" , "Greg Langham" Cc: References: Subject: Re: tp560: w2k rc2 installation Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:58:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: "See K Lam" wrote: > hi.... got suspend and hibernate working... thanks to greg for > removing PCAnywhere. > > now, i've a big problem... my friend just told me that the w2k i > installed is not rc2. it's w2k professional beta 3 !!!! This is _not_ a big problem. There is very little difference between Beta 3 and RC2. > can i still use the thinkpad utility? is there any version of > thinkpad utility for this version? Use the utilities for NT4 or Win98, they'll work just fine. There aren't any W2K utilities for the 560, there's hardly any support for NT4 or Win98. See the driver matrix at: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-3RYRAK.html and make sure your drivers are up to date, particularly the BIOS. When in doubt which driver to use, my experience with W2K has been NT4 first, then Win98 in preference to NT3.51 and, when all else fails, try the Win95 driver. You have to keep reminding yourself that Win2K is the replacement for NT4 and not the replacement for Win98. That's Windows Millenium. Regards, James From cph Tue Nov 30 14:45:26 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA03884 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:45:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23796; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:43:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:42:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23657; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:42:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibcsrv1.ubarter.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23630; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:42:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibcsrv1.ubarter.com (216.88.210.11 -> mail.ubarter.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:42:23 -0500 Received: by IBCSRV1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:49:38 -0800 Message-ID: <603D361CC16ED3118ECC0090276F89C50B0CBF@IBCSRV1> From: David Crombie To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: tp560: w2k rc2 installation Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:49:37 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I installed PCA9.0 on a 365xd running w2k - killed it - I ended up reformatting. It wouldn't boot, anything. I tried it again on a desktop running w2k for fun - same thing. bad bad symantec David -----Original Message----- From: Greg Langham [mailto:greg@psnet.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 8:44 AM To: 'See K Lam'; 'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu' Subject: RE: tp560: w2k rc2 installation I haven't run w2k yet, but the AW_HOST looks like PCAnywhere's host service. Did you happen to install pcAnywhere after you installed w2k? Or, maybe it's just a naming coincidence. Greg -----Original Message----- From: See K Lam [mailto:skl2@Ra.MsState.Edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 10:25 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: tp560: w2k rc2 installation hi all..... got w2k running after some making some mistakes here and there.. after all this is the 1st time i'm dealing with nt class os. for those without built-in cd rom, there is an option to install w2k which copies some setup files to the local hdd... in case cd rom is not accessible during the installation phase. >i386\winnt32 \makelocalsource this takes up some space. thanks to james who sent me a link about nt installation. there r some other options.... just look into the help file. anyway, i've to disabled infra red to get the modem working and hibernation and suspend r not working.... errors saying DRIVER\AW_HOST can not suspend. any idea? the other problem is the starting w2k.... it stays in the screen showing 'getting ready to startup' for like 5 minutes... i think something is wrong with my configuration. do i have any control over this? the same thing happens with the thinkpad utility.... the system waits for about 5 minutes...for the icon to show up. thanks in advance. seekit From cph Tue Nov 30 19:03:40 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA05678 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:03:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13096; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:01:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:59:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12822; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:59:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12791; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:58:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.26 -> cpimssmtpu01.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:58:49 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer - 63.27.202.45 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:58:42 -0800 Message-ID: <003101bf3b8f$14113f60$6fccfea9@oemcomputer> From: "Brad Burean" To: Subject: More questions! Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:00:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: I've got this 560, number 2640-20U. The Ibm site says this has a TFT display, I'm sure it's a dual scan, as it's nowhere as clear as my old 701c, or my daughters 755. Can this be pushed past 256 colors? I'm thinking of trading it for my desktop, as I'm really short on space. Thanks! Brad From cph Tue Nov 30 19:12:10 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA05740 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:12:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13813; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:10:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13727; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:10:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13710; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:10:26 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax46.vramp.net [198.138.8.109]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA23923; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:10:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <036b01bf3b90$9fc7bce0$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Bill Morrow" , , "See K Lam" References: Subject: Win2K Driver Updates for Thinkpads Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:11:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: Folks, Got an email today from IBM that there are new WIN2K drivers available at: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/LWIK-46SNR3.html for the following models: - ThinkPad 380E, 380ED, 380XD, 380Z - ThinkPad 385E, 385ED, 385XD - ThinkPad 560E, 560X, 560Z - ThinkPad 570 - ThinkPad 600, 600E - ThinkPad 760XD, 760XL, 765D, 765L - ThinkPad 770, 770E, 770ED, 770X, 770Z I also got my new TP600 today (2645-850 PII 300MHz (512KB) 64MB RAM 5.1GB 13.3 XGA TFT 24X 56K(ACP)) and I LIKE it. Gonna' load Win2K Professional RC2 on it along with Office 2000 and see what havoc I can wrought! Hey Bill! Got any (cheap) dusty, dirty hard drives for my new critter (cheap) lying around taking up space (cheap) and scaring the birds (cheep!) you want to get rid of (cheap)? Let's see if my carefully hidden subliminal message has any effect. Regards, James From cph Tue Nov 30 19:53:32 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA05986 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:53:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16473; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:51:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16395; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:51:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from regulus.blazenet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16375; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:51:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from regulus.blazenet.net (24.104.0.39 -> regulus.blazenet.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:51:10 -0500 Received: from mdenison (ip205.45.blca.blazenet.net [24.104.45.205]) by regulus.blazenet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA26250 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:21:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <005301bf3b96$5898b800$cd2d6818@mdenison> From: "Mort Denison" To: Subject: TP 760XD Diskette Factory Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:47:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: I bought a refurbed TP760XD from IBM for my wife. It's a pretty good unit. It comes with a bunch of preinstalled software which she hasn't used yet. I'd like to use the built in diskette factory program however everytime I've tried to use it there's an error message about a missing temp.pif file. I haven't had much luck with tech support - they can't seem to get a handle on what I need. Could someone with this file email it to me and include the directory it should be parked in? Thanks, Mort Denison From cph Tue Nov 30 20:24:19 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA06140 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:24:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18485; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:22:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:21:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18363; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:21:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18349; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:21:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:21:40 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax46.vramp.net [198.138.8.109]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA29696; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:21:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <039501bf3b9a$90a5ca90$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Brad Burean" , References: <003101bf3b8f$14113f60$6fccfea9@oemcomputer> Subject: Re: More questions! Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:22:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 List-Unsubscribe: Brad, "Brad Burean" wrote: > I've got this 560, number 2640-20U. The Ibm site says this has a TFT > display, I'm sure > it's a dual scan, as it's nowhere as clear as my old 701c, or my daughters > 755. Can this > be pushed past 256 colors? I'm thinking of trading it for my desktop, as > I'm really short > on space. Thanks! It's a P1-133MHz (non-MMX) with the 12.1" TFT screen. These machines were made between 2/97 and 1/98, so it's not as old as you originally thought. The lack of clarity _may_ be because of an improper driver being used by the OS. What are you running on it, W95, W98, etc.? According to the specs for this machine, the display is capable of 65K simultaneous colors in either 640X480 or 800X600 mode. Perhaps the LCD has been changed at some time. I would measure it diagonally. If it's over 12", it's TFT. If it's slightly over 11", then you've got the Dual Scan screen on the machine, which is limited to 256 colors, and which means that the display was changed at some time. What sort of a desktop are you considering trading for this machine? The 560 is not much of a workhorse compared to a lot of other machines that are available for a reasonable amount of money. Nor will it support an internal CD. Consider a 760 or 770 as a replacement for your desktop. They're _much_ easier to upgrade than the 560, support internal Cds and are readily available. Regards, James From cph Tue Nov 30 20:41:00 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA06219 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:41:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19552; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:39:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:39:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19449; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:39:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19436; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:39:01 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA01223; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:38:52 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001a01bf3b9c$d58eb660$123e6420@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "James H. E. Maugham" , "Brad Burean" , References: <003101bf3b8f$14113f60$6fccfea9@oemcomputer> <039501bf3b9a$90a5ca90$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> Subject: Re: More questions! Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:38:53 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > What sort of a desktop are you considering trading for this machine? The 560 > is not much of a workhorse compared to a lot of other machines that are > available for a reasonable amount of money. Desktop replacement is of course not the appropriate role for a 560; portability is. The ergonomics (keyboard and form factor) are great, and the performance is adequate for 99% of what one wants to do with a laptop. In other words, it is not as good a choice as (say)the 770 for one's only machine (unless one only does basic word processing and internet tasks, for which they are comparable) but it is great 2nd machine if one already has a decent desktop. - David R. From cph Tue Nov 30 22:55:42 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA18631 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:55:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26316; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:54:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26199; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:54:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26181; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:53:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (199.175.106.4 -> mail.islandnet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:53:57 -0500 Received: from 139-142-112-222.islandnet.com ([139.142.112.222]) by mail.islandnet.com with SMTP id 11t0ps-0007bZ-00 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:53:44 -0800 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Misappropriated (?) TP600 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:40:49 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <383C2224.81EC25B6@icanect.net> <002c01bf36b3$af45db20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> <00a101bf36f1$34cf6ad0$43088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <383E09EE.B07D881A@icanect.net> <383E48B8.13C3@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> <384210DD.EF1EF627@icanect.net> <003501bf3a6e$8b362be0$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <38436736.C1C10CD8@icanect.net> <02d101bf3b62$ab4b5d20$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> In-Reply-To: <02d101bf3b62$ab4b5d20$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> Lines: 25 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: >Last day (hell, last HOUR!) flurries of bidding that drive the price well >beyond the limits of reason are all too common. But, perhaps there really >are that many ignorant people out there who are willing to pay damn near >retail for very used machines. > "Shilling" is a real danger, but then you need to know the value of what it is you're purchasing. Personally, I often wait until the last hour, nay, the last two minutes, before putting in my bid. That way I'm more likely to get it. You may see more bidding in the last two minutes than in the previous 6 days, 23 hours and 58 minutes. That doesn't mean that there is shilling going on, or that the final price is too high. [And if the bidding level has already gone higher than I'd like to pay, I don't have to bother bidding at all.] -- cheers Jonathan From cph Tue Nov 30 22:59:35 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA18658 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:59:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26763; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:58:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:58:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26686; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:58:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26671; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:58:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.36 -> mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:58:51 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.13.176]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991201035850.WBXY2272@compaq>; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 03:58:50 +0000 Message-ID: <3844C6FC.15FD@worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:58:04 -0800 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Berry CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Misappropriated (?) TP600 References: <383C2224.81EC25B6@icanect.net> <002c01bf36b3$af45db20$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> <00a101bf36f1$34cf6ad0$43088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <383E09EE.B07D881A@icanect.net> <383E48B8.13C3@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> <384210DD.EF1EF627@icanect.net> <003501bf3a6e$8b362be0$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> <38436736.C1C10CD8@icanect.net> <02d101bf3b62$ab4b5d20$5e088ac6@JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I agree. I only browse the "ending today" stuff. And you really do need to know what you are doing! Jonathan Berry wrote: > > >Last day (hell, last HOUR!) flurries of bidding that drive the price well > >beyond the limits of reason are all too common. But, perhaps there really > >are that many ignorant people out there who are willing to pay damn near > >retail for very used machines. > > > > "Shilling" is a real danger, but then you need to know the > value of what it is you're purchasing. > > Personally, I often wait until the last hour, nay, the last two > minutes, before putting in my bid. That way I'm more likely to > get it. You may see more bidding in the last two minutes > than in the previous 6 days, 23 hours and 58 minutes. That > doesn't mean that there is shilling going on, or that the final > price is too high. > > [And if the bidding level has already gone higher than > I'd like to pay, I don't have to bother bidding at all.] > > -- > cheers > Jonathan From cph Tue Nov 30 23:42:59 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA19024 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:42:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29431; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:41:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:41:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29348; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:41:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29317; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:41:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (24.112.32.20 -> smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:41:25 -0500 Received: from mail.on.rogers.wave.ca ([24.112.32.4]:50746 "EHLO mail.on.rogers.wave.ca" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <512955-12072>; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:40:06 -0500 Received: from cr394328-a.rchrd1.on.wave.home.com ([24.112.93.189]:3716 "HELO actprod" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by mail.on.rogers.wave.ca with SMTP id <324675-25055>; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:40:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991130234045.00abfb50@mail.netrover.com> X-Sender: nractc03@mail.netrover.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:40:45 -0500 To: Randal Whittle From: Tom Trottier Subject: Re: Web Server using a ThinkPad? Cc: TP List In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991129213834.00c03eb0@rcf.usc.edu> References: <007501bf3ad0$676760a0$d512f103@hobbes> <4.2.0.58.19991128171706.0338bee0@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 21:57 1999/11/29 -0800, Randal Whittle wrote: ... > Thus far, people have been feeding me some software solutions--but >as far as I understand, I would have to have this software running on each >machine I expect to have protected. Frankly, I think that's a >less-than-optimal resolution, not to mention the questions I'd have about >the performance hit. But certainly, it appears to be near-free. Actually, the firewall software only needs to be on the machine that interfaces to the internet. Then you'd need a separate ethernet card to connect up the other machines. Tom ------------------ From:Tom Trottier, 400 Slater St. Suite 415,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 __o Voice: +1 613 291-1168 fax(no ads, please): 594-5412 _ \< "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein (*)/'(*) TomTrottier@hotmail.com From cph Tue Nov 30 23:51:07 1999 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA19089 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:51:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29954; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:49:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:49:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29874; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from usc.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29860; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:49:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from usc.edu (128.125.253.136 -> usc.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:49:37 -0500 Received: from rcf-fs.usc.edu (root@rcf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.19.166]) by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id UAA06271; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:49:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rjwlaptop (ppp-225-102.usc.edu [128.125.225.102]) by rcf-fs.usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id UAA10777; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:49:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991130204200.00d0ba80@rcf.usc.edu> X-Sender: vwhittle@rcf.usc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:47:34 -0800 To: Tom Trottier From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Web Server using a ThinkPad? Cc: TP List In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991130234045.00abfb50@mail.netrover.com> References: <4.2.0.58.19991129213834.00c03eb0@rcf.usc.edu> <007501bf3ad0$676760a0$d512f103@hobbes> <4.2.0.58.19991128171706.0338bee0@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 11:40 PM 11/30/1999 -0500, you wrote: > > Thus far, people have been feeding me some software solutions--but > >as far as I understand, I would have to have this software running on each > >machine I expect to have protected. Frankly, I think that's a > >less-than-optimal resolution, not to mention the questions I'd have about > >the performance hit. But certainly, it appears to be near-free. > >Actually, the firewall software only needs to be on the machine that >interfaces to the internet. Then you'd need a separate ethernet card to >connect up the other machines. >Tom Tom, Doesn't this assume a traditional server configuration? I'm looking at a situation where a small number of machines are peer-networked, all making use of a DSL Modem. In this configuration (if I understand it properly), each machine is essentially connected to the DSL line directly--which means each one would need individual protection at a software level (or a piece of hardware between them and the connection to the Internet, whether that is a server or a specialty firewall box such as the Sonic Wall I described either. In such a configuration--peer networked machines--am I mistaken in presuming that each machine would require a software firewall to be protected? - Randy Whittle